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[Assistant] Into first down, yeaah. Don't ask me how it's computed, I don't know. But when I see a graphic that has the 2023 Browns as number one all time, with the 2000 Ravens as number two, the 2008 Ravens as number three, and the 2002 Buccaneers as number four, and the Browns are better than those three defenses, that means something.


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[Assistant] It goes back to 96. So yeaah. And once again, I don't know how we can.


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[Assistant] They have 27, Baltimore has 29. So they're two behind Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Major tournament. Okay, number four. I want some unsung defensive heroes. We talked about Ronnie Hickman earlier.


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[Assistant] Well last week against the Jets, he was the highest graded PFF safety in the league. He had a 93 grade. Since week 14, when he started playing more regular snaps after Grant Delpitt's gone out, he has an 84.7 PFF grade. That ranks 5th out of 95 qualified Satans. And with his snaps against the Jets, he officially enters the...


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[Assistant] Overall safety category, he's the fourth highest PFF graded safety in all of football this year. Which is kind of absurd. Alex Wright also, Alex Wright.


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[Assistant] Three straight games with the sack. He has seven QB pressures in those three games. He's up to 19 on the season. He only had 12 all of last year.


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[Assistant] He has seven in the last three games, two guys to watch on Sunday who will definitely play Alex Wright, Ronnie Hickman playing at a phenomenal level. Hopefully that continues for the Browns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's played 297 snaps now, which once you break 250, you enter the category of all safeties, anything below that. But yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's been really coming on. And the last one before we read some comments on G's outfit, cause the chat, G, is loving the fit, but a couple records that Stefanski has a chance to eclipse this week. He could become the first Browns coach, or he is the first Browns coach, excuse me, to lead the team to multiple playoff berths since Marty Schottenheimer.


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[Assistant] He joins Paul Brown as the only head coach in franchise history with multiple 11 win regular seasons. The Brown's longest win streak since returning to Cleveland in 99.


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[Assistant] Four games. They've done it four times. It's happened three times under Stefanski. And if they win this Sunday, it'll be five. Setting a new record. He's also looking to become the second coach ever.


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[Assistant] Uh, we have two Nanji Bush super chats, then we'll get to the rest of the roast, but Kevin Robinson says, I'm excited to watch Siake Ika closely see what we have in the rookie defensive tackle and Parajute Sand who says, man, do I miss watching football live guys? I'm live from India right now. We'll be back on Monday. Go Brownies. Shout out to our viewers all across the world, including you.


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[Assistant] Couple more, Colin LaRittish says, I think G Bush and Eazy E about to drop an album.


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[Assistant] Uh, Gleezybaby43 says, regarding the series conversion stat, you mentioned the Ravens and Bucks won Super Bowl those years, now let's go enjoy a Brownies. And Ant, you said there's one more? Yea, somebody said G looks like he's out of Build an Uncle. Build an Uncle. Build an Uncle.


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[Assistant] Hey, real quick, for three minutes before we go over to WKYC for brand new Never Force Uncontained. Jay, you put in the group chat yesterday, the Browns, you hope they don't regret not signing Daven Cooke. He went to the Ravens. Is that your worst case nightmare scenario for Daven Cooke?


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco is the team passing leader already for the Browns this year in four games.


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[Assistant] This is unbelievable. Who could have thought three straight games, 300 plus yards, first time in his career he's ever done it. Just, I mean, it's unbelievable this way this guy's playing right now. I have no idea how long it's going to last, but I'm here for it because the Browns have become the best story in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Joe gets all the credit. He's the one on the field making the throws, making the plays.


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[Assistant] But we've, I know I've said, boy, I know you've agreed. We've said on the show multiple, multiple times, Kevin gets the most out of his quarterbacks. Kevin puts his quarterbacks in position to succeed.


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[Assistant] This might be the most telling of all the guys that he's had to work with. When you look at the incredible job he did last year at Jacoby Brissette, even he squeezed wins out of PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dorian Thompson Robinson was coming on and starting to play well. Baker, he got good stuff out of Baker.


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[Assistant] This more than anything, he's turned back the clock and resurrected Joe.


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[Assistant] And the Browns were just going to pound them deep from the start and it worked. First play out. Obviously the deep ball to Amari and they hit Amari throughout. There's, there's a connection between Joe and Amari. Obviously there's a chemistry there. It's funny how after the first game we were talking about, well, you know, Joe and Elijah Moore have this chemistry going back. Well, that's gone.


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[Assistant] He is looking only for Amari, and when Amari's not open, he's looking for 85. And then when the building's on fire and he's got to throw it to somebody, then he throws it to Elijah. But that's clearly the pecking order right now. And just an incredible job Kevin has done structuring this offense, playing to Joe's strengths, putting him in position to succeed, and Flacco's making all the throws.


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[Assistant] You know, I was thinking on the first play of the game, the deep shot to Amari, I was thinking about what Leroy said, you don't ever double receiver because then it's just two guys chasing him.


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[Assistant] And I still believe that there's times to bracket receivers and double guys, but that Leroy was the first one I thought of on the Amari. It was double covered and Joe just put it in an absolute perfect spot. It was like there was no one on him. It was unbelievable.


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[Assistant] We don't need to go very far down this road, but I have heard from a number of people who are out on the Browns after the whole Deshawn thing who are back.


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[Assistant] Who are like, I love watching this team, the cloud is hanging over, no matter which side of the fence you're on with that, the cloud that was hanging over this team is gone, at least for now. And people are all in on the Browns who told me they swore off the Browns, they weren't watching them this year, they didn't care and now they are all in.


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[Assistant] I, I, I don't think you're crazy. I don't know, I like, listen, we're not in the Ravens community, but nationally, he was not respected as the guy. Like he's, like he's getting the credit for now.


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[Assistant] Baseball is the most stringent to get in, I think. And football is probably below that, but not by much. Like the football to get in the Hall of Fame. It's hard. There's a committee and we have two people locally who are on the Hall of Fame committee and Mary Kay and Tony Grossi and you make your case for...


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[Assistant] You support your guy and then they go back and forth and dialogue. It's a, it's a thing. I think he's up for consideration for sure. I think I was half watching at this point. I was dozing off on the couch, but didn't they show like the, was it the quarterbacks who have won Super Bowls with multiple teams? Is that what I saw with like, and the Colts and Broncos? It's not a lot.


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[Assistant] It says, yeaah, according to this, I've never heard of the guy.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Craig Morton, Cowboys and Broncos, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess, I mean, we're really getting ahead of ourselves. Bull and I pride ourselves on never being in prison or the moment, but since we're crowning the Brown Super Bowl champs today, uh, yeah, we might as well put Joe Flacco in the hall of fame too, if that happens.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think they were doing that because it's week, what, 15, 16, and the playoffs are on the line and they weren't taking any chances. They were still going to win that game. Yep. Uhm, but, but I...


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[Assistant] What matters to me is that the last two weeks this defense has played out of its mind. When they haven't been put in impossible situations like a sudden change turnover at the goal line or a pick six or punt return, you kick return for a touchdown today. When they're on the field lining up first and 10,


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[Assistant] You know, from the plus side of the field, they're getting stops and they're getting off the field. So, and hey, this is actually probably a good thing because now Jim Schwartz has something to chew ass on.


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[Assistant] In this short week where it's not like you guys are playing so great. I mean it's a really between the holiday and the Thursday game. I don't even know what their schedule is. They haven't released it for this week. It's going to be a really short week, but he's going to be on them.


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[Assistant] Every minute that he can between now and then because now at least he's got something to hold up and say you guys aren't as good as you think you are. So it probably would work out to be a good thing, but I'm not at all concerned.


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[Assistant] Taki Taki 7 tackles, Jok 6, Ronnie Hickman 6 and D'Anthony Bell 5. So you got 11 combined tackles from your backup safeties. I agree with you. They haven't missed a beat. It's...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, with a chance to clinch for sure. I mean, they're going to the playoffs, but a chance to clinch it and make it official. Yeah. It being a night game, hopefully people will fill up the mutie lot. It's been down the last couple of weeks. Yeah, right, right, right.


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[Assistant] A little strange, but no, I think Thursday night, that place will be... I remember the last time the Jets were in. What was the Thursday night? What, at Baker Street?


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[Assistant] Yep. And that place was wild. I expect this to be even better. And this will be, you know, it's a holiday week, so probably a lot of people are not


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[Assistant] I'm worried about Hopkins for sure. Hamstrings are, you know, we don't know how bad it is.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm, with a kicker, it's kind of a big deal. You know, that could be a three, four week injury.


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[Assistant] And Browns don't have that long. You know, set on the rest of the season. It doesn't matter. The Jets game doesn't matter. Bengals, whatever.


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[Assistant] But man, you really want to see him wild card weekend. So I, until we get more information right now, I'm very concerned about the Hopkins thing.


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[Assistant] You can't go into a playoff game. I mean, we're, we're a couple weeks out yet. Maybe we'll have a better feel on it then. But boy, you can't really go into a playoff game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can't, if you have the punter, I mentioned in the chat, I'd...


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[Assistant] I don't know why the NFL doesn't go back to having the backup quarterback be the holder all the time because now, you know, you, and maybe Bohorkis just isn't good at kicking it off the ground. It is, it is significantly different.


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[Assistant] Kicking it off flat ground with somebody holding it versus dropping it out of your hands. Well, he can drop kick. You can technically drop kick for field goals. Well, yeaah, I guess you can. I, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I'm just, it's something I'm concerned about. I was scanning, looking for names. Brett Marr is available. He was a guy who had a terrible couple of weeks with the Rams and was released earlier this year. I think he's the most recent cut, I think. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't know who else is out there other than your, your boy Robbie Gold. I don't know who else really is who, whoever they get, obviously, although we didn't feel great about Dustin Hopkins when he first got here either. You're like, who, you know, who's this guy?


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[Assistant] I think it was just, I'm not terribly concerned, but I'm more concerned with the kickoff return than the botch.


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[Assistant] Uh, onside kick, it looks like I didn't see who it hit, it just- David, David Bell.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I guess I'd be more concerned with that than anything, but overall, I think the units have been good enough that again, this is sort of like, uh, if Jim Schwartz wants something to...


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[Assistant] Get on these guys about, well now they have it on special teams too, if anything it's just a reminder that you guys aren't as good as you think you are and we still have some stuff to clean up.


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[Assistant] He broke the Josh Gordon record for most yards in a single game, but there, it, there's nothing about this game. The sideline catch was unbelievable. It was one of the best catches I've ever seen, but it wasn't like a huge moment. You know, it was just a great catch. And this whole game, it didn't, it wasn't, it wasn't a game with a lot of drama and excitement. The Browns were in control from the start.


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[Assistant] And it's, it's not a playoff game. It's a regular season game. So it's, it's hard.


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[Assistant] I can't declare it one of the greatest of all time, but man, it was, it was, uh, it was incredible performance by him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and maybe that's what I'm, like, I'm going off of, I don't, I knew Josh Gordon had Monster Games, but when he was getting close to the record, I'm sitting there thinking, well, who has the record?


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[Assistant] I remember Josh Gordon had that record on that incredible game.


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[Assistant] It's just kind of filed away as just another game. Um, and maybe 10 years from now, we'll look back on this and we will remember this game is the, is the Amari game.


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[Assistant] You know, when you really help put the Browns over the top to on making the playoffs and some of those incredible catches, it's just hard for me in the moment to declare this is one of the greatest ever.


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[Assistant] I can't argue that. I can't argue that. It's wild.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a nuclear war. The off season is gonna be fun because of this.


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[Assistant] It's, but it's going, I mean, race is a factor in this. Dex is a factor in this. Like it has all the ingredients. It is going to be a nuclear war this offseason.


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[Assistant] I mean, they ran it. Jerome Ford had 15 carries today. It's not like they totally gave up on it. Pierre Strong had five. They had 20 runs between, and Kareem Hunt had seven. Now some of those were garbage time carries obviously, but 27 carries, they're just not good. They're just not good at running the football. And it's not even the injuries. They had their starting center in both guards back today.


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[Assistant] You know, we've talked about what a great run blocker, why it is at right guard, and everyone keeps telling me James Hudson is a ferocious right tackle at run blocking. You know, pass block is a different story, but he's the best run blocking tackle that they have.


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[Assistant] So they should be able to run it. It very well may be that their running backs aren't very good, which is what we've said all along, except for the one 45 minute stretch when half the panel lost their mind and said that it was an elite running game. Outside of that, we've all pretty much been in agreement. Jerome Ford isn't really a feature back.


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[Assistant] And it very well could just be that these guys just aren't that good. And this is the way it's gonna be the rest of the year. And they're just gonna have to grind it out, gut it out, use the Wildcat, use screen passes.


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[Assistant] Things like that and call those, call that the running game because the rest of it just isn't working but to this point it hasn't mattered.


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[Assistant] It's just a half second though. It's just a half second freeze.


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[Assistant] It's not even, yeaah, it's just that half second of what are they doing. That's all you need is a receiver to get open. It's just that split second. And, you know, I wrote about it a couple weeks ago. I don't think we really talked about on the show how big of a believer


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski is in play action. If you look at his numbers.


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[Assistant] With him as the play caller, when they're on play action versus straight drop backs, it's like an extra couple of yards per play. He is such, and when he met with Deshawn in Rusty Harden's office, and Deshawn said, you know, critique me, give me something that you don't like, something I need to work on.


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[Assistant] The first thing Kevin went to is you need to be cleaner with your ball fakes, you know, with play action. Like he is such, he doesn't talk about it a lot, but he is a huge believer in play action and we're seeing it come to life now with Flacco and boy, you're right. He's so good on play action. He's fooled the camera. He fooled me today.


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[Assistant] On one that I thought for sure was a run and it was a pass. He's so good at it and it was such a big component to what Kevin does. What he likes is the quarterback under center running play action. That's a big staple that really hasn't been talked about in four years here. I feel like we haven't really discussed.


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[Assistant] How important that is to Kevin's philosophy because they've had so much change as a quarterback. But when you just connect all the dots and put all the pieces together and start solving the puzzle, you see how important it is to him and that's why he's having so much success with Joe.


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[Assistant] I, I think, you know, if they bench everybody, if they rest everyone, and if everything's wrapped up, and they're not taking it seriously, and the Ravens have clinched a division. Otherwise, I, I, I mean, I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, too, for the first time. I think they're 5-0.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I haven't looked at it that far out. I hope you're right that they've got the five seed locked up.


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[Assistant] It pretty much at this point, it's, it's been such a wild year in the NFL. I wasn't really going to start looking at all that until after next week. Uh, but yeah, it'd be great if they go into week 18, no lower than the fifth seed. Imagine that.


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[Assistant] I think I would too. Although they are just rolling. You'd hate to even have them break rhythm at all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. I've only been around him since 2018. 2020 was just weird.


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[Assistant] You couldn't even really enjoy it and celebrate it because what was going on in the world, nobody could gather and it just was, it just didn't feel like a Browns playoff run. This does. And just enjoy it. Browns fans deserve it. You've been through so much. You've been through so much hell for so many years. Y'all deserve it. Just have fun and soak it up.


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[Assistant] I was thinking, I was thinking, let me tell y'all a story. The year I went to the Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] Then 10,000, then 15,000. Right? Now, the cool thing about that was, first of all, I wasn't making no money. Right?


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[Assistant] The, the, the guys on offense said you better throw the ball in the stands, we win. But every week, they asked me how much the fine was, and they put the money on my desk.


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[Assistant] I got, I got the write-off and, and I got the money. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] But then, but then, uhm, I'm trying to think the police would get me for the socks all the time. Right? And so, you know what I did? No, because here's the problem. I had to wear the big socks, right?


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[Assistant] And uh, sometimes I just put it in my little backpack, and I have like three, four checks, and I go deposit them at the same time.


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[Assistant] Sometimes I just can't figure out why they can't or can't run the ball. Right? Are they really making a commitment to it or are they running just to run? Right? I don't know. Uhm, I know you got a lot of guys.


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[Assistant] On that offensive line that have been moved around in and out, guys getting hurt during the game. So it's tough. It's really tough. That being said, right?


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[Assistant] We always look at speed, we always look at power, we always look at all these, uh, attributes to the person. But we never talk about their eyes. Their ability to see and anticipate a hole. Right? Sometimes, a slower running back can be more productive because of his vision.


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[Assistant] Right? Sometimes a runner back is real patient and he picks his spot. Boom, boom, boom. Hit it. Right? Sometimes he can use his speed.


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[Assistant] Sometimes he's quick through the hole. There's a lot of different ways that makes a running game work.


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[Assistant] And, and we can't, I don't want to just put it on the offensive line, but here's rule number one in running the football. Tigers, they talk about this on defense.


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[Assistant] If you are stalemated on defense, or you getting pushed down, the offense is winning.


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[Assistant] They will always talk about, we are getting no penetration. They'll show that all 22 from the side, and they'll say, look at where the line of scrimmage is. Right? They do it both offensively and defensively. So if you want to know why the, the, the,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he's getting impatient. A lot of fast running backs get impatient. They're not patient, you know, picking their spots.


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[Assistant] Them pushing into the backfield and shrinking that time that he has to read. Uhm, but yeah, they gotta figure it out. They gotta figure it out because guess what? These next three weeks, I mean, I don't need to tell y'all what Cleveland weather is like in December.


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[Assistant] Not, not necessarily. Okay. Not necessarily. It's, man, it's a hard thing to determine. And here's what, it's a hard thing to determine what a guy is seeing and what he's not. Right? My coach never, I remember when I was in Cleveland, my coach would never say to me, why didn't you go here? He would always ask me, what did you see?


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[Assistant] Right? What are you looking at? Because if he can get your mind...


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[Assistant] In the right frame of what you're looking at or what you're looking for, then your athletic ability can then take over.


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[Assistant] And, and so that's what, that's what you learn. You learn that, hey, I gotta be a little more patient with this. So it's something that, you know, one of the hardest things for a football team to go through, right?


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[Assistant] Right? I ain't got time for you to, to, to, to, to get your feet wet. We trying to win now.


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[Assistant] But I will say there are times where it almost seems like he panics and he wants to just take off and run.


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[Assistant] I know this is gonna sound bad, and I'm sorry Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, Browns fans. By the way, Merry Christmas to everybody. Okay?


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[Assistant] But y'all tell me, in that first half, you wasn't saying, uh oh, here's the flaco game.


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[Assistant] Right? It seems like that confidence spreads amongst the whole field. And you got, Joe Flacco is a cool dude, right? That dude don't flinch. He throw three picks and he just shrug his shoulders and say, all right, let's go. And I think that is a, a energy in itself where guys look at him and say, look how calm he is and he messing up.


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[Assistant] We can get this, right? It's something to be sad about that. So the way that defense is playing.


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[Assistant] And how cool Joe Flacco has handled it. I mean, look, he ain't never been a guy that I've known to run.


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[Assistant] But he is just elusive enough where he could throw the football. It's, it's amazing. So, to hell with all them numbers. Right? We watching these games.


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[Assistant] You know who the other one is? Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Don't fool yourself.


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[Assistant] Then like, you can talk about all them new guys and all them other guys. Here's the problem with either one or both of them.


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[Assistant] They got enough cash that they can come in there and make some demands that you might not want to put up with. See what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] They gonna make some demands that you might not, and that's the only reason why they might not be the coach. You got a quarterback, you got a defense who should be a lot better than they are, right? That just built Belichick's playpen.


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[Assistant] Right? Because we all said, how you have that much talent on the offensive side of the ball, that much talent on the defensive side of the ball, and you getting blown out?


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[Assistant] Y'all have, y'all, y'all have a good holiday. Hey, uh, hey, uh, Tavis. Y'all enjoy that, I don't give a damn, bo.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're lovin' him, Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] We were on our own two yard line. It was third and 37. They give me a draw.


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[Assistant] He had a whole breakfast slate. Yeaah. I had to decline because I wanted to save room for lunch, but he had like an egg frittata, french toast, bacon.


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[Assistant] I think with Baker, you just want to be right. You just want to be on the right side of history so you're for him to be bad so you don't get looked like a nice guy.


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[Assistant] That's not what I'm hoping. That's not what I'm hoping for. And Detroit and the NFC wins.


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[Assistant] I mean, Amari Cooper's a warrior, so if he's capable and physically able to play, I would expect to see Amari Cooper out there tonight against the New York Jets. It's a short week, he's a veteran receiver, you know, he's 29 years old, 28 years old.


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[Assistant] But as Tom said, he knows his body better than anyone else. If he's good at warmups, I think the, I think the, the sense would be he does play. He's a tough guy, he's played through injuries before, he did miss a game.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's been injured with the ribs and he had the concussion that he cleared protocol with, but throughout his career, when he's available, he's been able to play. So I would be surprised if he's not in action tonight. But I do think...


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[Assistant] When you look at the matchup between the Browns and the Jets, and especially the Browns receivers versus the Jets cornerbacks,


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[Assistant] If Amari's not there, it presents a big problem for the Browns because I don't trust.


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[Assistant] Elijah Moore, Tillman, David Bell, and whoever else that throw out receiver, Marquise Goodwin is also questionable. To beat some of these Jets cornerbacks, we're going to do our draft later.


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[Assistant] The Jet Secondary is really good, and they have three really good cornerbacks, so if Amari's not there, at least the advantage in terms of that matchup, Jet Secondary vs. Brown's Receivers minus Amari, skews heavily towards the Jets.


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[Assistant] It's funny, I asked Earl this morning, I was like, if Umar doesn't play, let's say you're at 100% they beat the Jets with Umar, where does it drop to? He's like, 85?


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[Assistant] And I was like, I don't totally disagree because I'm not quite sure the Jets can score on the Browns. At the end of the day, like six points in theory could win this game, but I was doing some, some digging.


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[Assistant] And the Omari Flacco combination since he's taken over as a starter has been awesome. And these are just some numbers. In four games, he has 25 catches. That's 35% of his season total in four games.


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[Assistant] 485 yards in four games, obviously boosted by the 265 last week. That's 40% of his season total. He has three touchdowns with Joe. He had two touchdowns in 11 games without Joe and his passer rating when it targeted.


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[Assistant] 106.3, which is 20 points higher than any other quarterback he's targeted. So there's obviously a beautiful connection between Amari and Joe, and we'll take him out. He's throwing at guys that I just don't trust yet.


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[Assistant] C.J. Mosley was good, but he's a little older, and Quincy Williams is talented, but I don't think he's on the jokers level.


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[Assistant] Never missed a beat. Hickman has 11 tackles and a past defend in the last two weeks. If you didn't know he was an undrafted rookie and you took nameplates off the jersey and just watched his play at the safety position.


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[Assistant] I didn't see a big drop off from what Thornhill does. I think the one thing that Thornhill brings that the other guys may not.


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[Assistant] It's just the consistency. He's seen everything. There might be a chance the Jets can get him on a double move or some sort of crossing pattern off play action where Hickman gets a little confused that Thornhill just has the experience of.


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[Assistant] He's played as well and on par with what you'd expect from a free agent safety brought in like Thornhill. And that's not even a knock on Thornhill. That's a testament to him.


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[Assistant] Now in terms of deep passing, like, I was going through looking at Trevor Simeon.


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[Assistant] And his numbers last week are the biggest mirage of you can't trust what a box score says. He completed 27 passes last week.


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[Assistant] And you also don't have to play back though, your secondary can play up tight and eliminate the space between the running back slipping out the field because you're just not worried about Trevor Simien beating you deep. No. And if, and Garrett Wilson's an awesome player.


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[Assistant] So be it. Cause that's gonna be Trevor Simminess to pass the ball and connect on a pass. Yeah, but I don't, I don't.


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[Assistant] We thought about the Browns only allowed opponents to score on 24% of drives. They were number one in the NFL. Washington was 32nd heading into last week at 46 and a half. And he could barely move the ball.


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[Assistant] And it is pick your poison, because to pass deep, you have to obviously protect your quarterback. And that allows Myles Garrett, Zedarius, Daven Tomlinson, Alex Wright, who I thought played a really good game last week, by the way, to pin their ears back and get after the quarterback, the Jets offensive line. If you go by PFF grades, their highest graded offensive line, it's a 57.


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[Assistant] That's, that's the injury report. That's the, go ahead. One more, one quick one. So, we've mentioned it, I think really quick yesterday, but Ogbo obviously out today, or out tonight. Won't play on week 18, but he's trying to make his way back for the postseason.


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[Assistant] And I don't know how- He's not on IR either. No, and I'm not sure how torn packs work, but like him and Mohurst in the same game tore their packs. Mohurst done for the year.


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[Assistant] Agbo is trying to, at least if you'll read the reports, trying to come back for the postseason, and if he can make it back from a torn pack...


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[Assistant] I don't completely disagree. I mean, like you said, if it's in front of you and there's a chance to get the one seed division, you have to go for it. Balls to the wall, no excuses. If you're banged up, you still have a chance to get the one seed, which gives you the buy, but there are a lot, I mean,


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[Assistant] You think back to when the Browns had their bye week this season. That was pre-San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Like, think about that. Pre-Stanford, that was 70,000 injuries ago. That was four quarterbacks ago, like, or three quarterbacks ago. So to get that by heading into the playoffs, to get some of the veterans who have played.


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[Assistant] Listen, I hear everything you guys are saying and I'm not even saying that if I think about it longer I would totally disagree.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I do believe. It's a five week. But we see it, we see it all the time. Listen, we see it all the time in the playoffs. The hottest team. It's not necessarily the best team that wins. It's the hottest team going into the postseason. And yes, teams deal with five weeks all the time. It happens. There's something special and clicking about what they're doing right now. Mike. That would be terrified. So, so then they should give up.


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[Assistant] I don't remember. I'm sure they lost. That's why you're here, right? The Chiefs! Were the Chiefs? Yes! Were the Eagles?


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[Assistant] That doesn't happen. Often. I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm just saying I'd be terrified. I think you guys are actually right, I'm just saying personally I'd be terrified to mess with the rhythm the Browns have offensively.


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[Assistant] I think the Eagles were the one seed last year, but I think the year before both one seeds lost very early. Baltimore lost at the one seed. Tennessee lost at the one seed real early. A couple of years we had to buy.


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[Assistant] No, we all picked a bangle. I think everyone picked a bangle to beat him.


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[Assistant] Something special is happening right now and it scares me to do anything to derail that momentum. Even though you guys are probably right in the grand scheme, the big picture.


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[Assistant] And getting eliminated, or two for four, and getting eliminated in the first game by a week. So now we're-


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[Assistant] Let's win tonight first. Yeaah. Let's win tonight first, then we can have that discussion. Cause if they lose tonight, then it's all null and void. Yeaah, then you gotta play.


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[Assistant] Clarity on that. And to Jason's point, like, we can talk about, we do, we do bulletin board material, do players care, do revenge games, do players care.


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[Assistant] It's human nature. Like these guys are athletes, but they're also humans. And anytime you have a chance to get back at your former employer, your ex boyfriend or girlfriend, like there is always that little extra underlying motivation to go out and prove them wrong. Now, does that mean I think Joe Flacco is going to try to throw every past 70 yards downfield and thread the needle to be like, Hey, look, I could have done this for you. Like, no, but to think that there's not some extra little satisfaction in a good play, I think is,


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[Assistant] Just missing the whole point of human nature and the competitive nature of these guys. And that's what makes Joe Flacco so good. And what makes some quarterbacks


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[Assistant] Not so good in these situations. I have the utmost confidence that Joe Flacco's gonna go out and play Joe Flacco's game and then feel better about it afterward as opposed to going out there and maybe a younger guy would do this or a quarterback in a different situation to go out and prove their point. I think Flacco's gonna let the game come to him and let his point be proven by his playing the field.


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[Assistant] And when the, the, the final whistle blows and you look at the box score and you see whatever numbers Flacco puts up, versus whatever the Jets quarterbacks have.


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[Assistant] Joe will be like, yeaah, I did that. And one step before you go, in four games, Flacco has more, uh, the same amount of touchdown passes as the entire Jets quarterback room this season. It's 10 to 10. That's just crazy.


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[Assistant] 12 or 14 targets against the Ram. Since then he's kinda fallen off in terms of the, uh,


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[Assistant] His spot on the leaderboard in terms of Brown's targets, he's actually been surpassed by Cedric Tillman in the last three games.


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[Assistant] I would think that as to Jason's point, he's got a little extra gunning and make sure he's running his routes as Christmas humanly possible.


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[Assistant] Can I ask a question, and I don't, I don't know the, I wish Thomas was here, I should have asked him yesterday. Does Elijah Moore and Flacco knowing, you know, being in the Jets locker room the last couple years, how much insight do they actually have into the Jets defense, knowing Salah, knowing...


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[Assistant] I think they've scored in the first drive that did against LA that Jerome Ford bootleg wide open. They did against Jacksonville. They did not


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[Assistant] Well, I told you the last three games, they're 17th in the NFL. Yeah, I think that's.


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[Assistant] Make them adjust to you, not vice versa. And when you start adjusting to try and exploit a weakness on the other opponent, in the opponent's armor, for lack of a better word, and you're not good at it,


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[Assistant] But I do think it's a cool moment, and I do think it helps the team. This is a chance for them to do something, as we mentioned earlier in the show.


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[Assistant] They haven't done 21 years, clinch a playoff berth at home. For Deshaun to be in the stadium, on the sideline with his guys, for a chance to do this, in front of what should be, as we talked about yesterday, the most electric crowd maybe the city's seen since they returned to Cleveland in 99, for a chance to


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[Assistant] To build the foundation of what we hope is a multi-year championship window for him to be there. I think it's cool.


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[Assistant] But I didn't kill him when he wasn't there. I don't think it's a giant deal this year, but as Jason said, an extra set of eyes always helps. Deshawn's a smart football guy and he's been called the football savant before. He understands how to read defenses. If Flacco does have a question, it's another guy he can go to and he's not asking PJ Walker. I mean, Flacco's not gonna have a question.


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[Assistant] And he's done it in Houston, and I lived in Texas right outside of Houston for a couple years, and I can tell you with the utmost certainty, maybe better than anyone in this city because I've lived in both.


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[Assistant] The buying of Browns fans compared to the buying of Texans fans is night and day. It doesn't even remotely compare. In Texas and Houston.


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[Assistant] There's so many other interests. College football is bigger than the NFL in Houston. Here, it's- Not Dallas though, right?


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[Assistant] No, the Cowboys are one, but that's four hours away. He wasn't in Dallas, he was in Houston. There's just so many other things that...


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[Assistant] And then, it's not just for like, Deshawn, but even Miles to an extent. Like, guys on the Browns who have been here for a while, they haven't seen what tonight could be. Could cause they have to win. I keep saying could cause they still have to win. But, everyone, fans, media, players, Deshawn, the leaders of this team,


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[Assistant] Have a chance to experience something that they haven't done before. And any, I don't say any doubt they've ever had about Cleveland, but.


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[Assistant] Any wonder of, is this a mecca of football? They're gonna get it tonight.


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[Assistant] But it'll be bonkers tonight, all weekend, it'll be bonkers. New Year's Eve on Sunday, when everyone has F on Monday, it's gonna be bonan- like-


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[Assistant] I can't even, it's still 8 hours till kick off.


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[Assistant] We talked about this earlier Aditi, but the Joe Flacco Elijah Moore revenge game factor on the Jets. We all agreed that Flacco is a Wiley vet. He's not going to let too much go into that, but Elijah Moore, and you've been on the Elijah Moore train all season. Is this finally the game that Elijah Moore has his monster breakout? This is why you traded the second round pick for performance. Sure. Why not?


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[Assistant] We'll take the Flacco success, cause it's been awesome and great for us as a show, producing content. Aditi, I'm gonna give you...


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett wins Defensive Player of the Year or Stefanski wins Coach of the Year. Which one is more likely to be the outcome after Week 18?


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not stamping, I'm not writing it in pen.


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[Assistant] Best players on the field. On the field. Not the most important. Not the most important. The ten best players. The ten best players. Okay. Now, positional value.


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[Assistant] Does not matter. Yeaah. So just because Joe Flack is a quarterback, you don't think he's one of the top ten players? Which I'll see, I'm curious. If Jay was here, he'd be the second pick, I'm sure. He'd be the first pick.


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[Assistant] Miles is my vote for one, yes. By the way, I have a top 17, just in case.


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[Assistant] I'll go with Sauce Gardener. I had sauce at three for the record, so. Two. So Sauce Gardener, cornerback to us.


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[Assistant] So, for the record, I had a different order. Those are my top four. Do we all agree that in some order those are the top four players? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Okay.


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[Assistant] I actually went JOK at 5, I had Denzel at 6. I went JOK at 5. He's playing so good right now. Alright, Jayce. I'll actually agree with Mike.


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[Assistant] I had, I had, I had Jokun9 Emerson10.


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[Assistant] I think those are the 10 best guys. If you want to make the case for Emerson over Flacco or Njoku, I'll hear it. I think it's...


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[Assistant] If the Browns get a new stadium, can it be recreated? No.


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[Assistant] They've been good at home under Stefanski. They're 7-1 this year. I forget the exact number, but they're like 15 games over 500 at home during Stefanski's 10 year.


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[Assistant] 16 would put him in a tie with T.J. Watt for first in the NFL. Yes. He's down by 3.


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[Assistant] I don't want to call it a slump because he's still getting precious, but in terms of actual sacks, it's a sack slump. And when you go through that four week stretch to be, like you said, the headline game and the marquee player in said headline game against an offensive line, which you alluded to, which is abysmal.


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[Assistant] Abysmal, the highest PFF grade of any of their starters, the 57. Which, as we've all learned, sucks in this year's PFF system. If they can't...


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[Assistant] Long two minute warning stretches from when the two minute warning begins to the game ends and it's a late night with an early turnaround for us tomorrow. So that would be quite pleasant and I would thank the Browns a lot if this game could be wrapped up. Yeah, I would too.


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[Assistant] Alright, so this is the YouTube version, so we get a little more risqué than when we do headlines on the TV. So how about, the Jets Flacked Around.


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[Assistant] Found out. Super Joe 2.0's Revenge Tour starts with a win over the Jets as the Browns.


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[Assistant] Clinch a playoff berth. I expect Flacco despite going up against a much better pass defense.


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[Assistant] To still be the Joe Flacco we've seen in the last couple of weeks, maybe not 370 yards, but a competent performance. I do not trust the Jets offense to be able to score on this Browns defense.


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[Assistant] Barring any sort of turnover that sets them up inside the red zone. Which could definitely happen. Which could happen, but I just can't imagine any scenario where Trevor Simian is sustaining long drives against Miles Garrett, Denzel Ward, J.O.K., and the rest of the dogs on that defense.


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[Assistant] We had Joe Charbonneau. Now we have Super Joe 2.0. Little alliteration. I'm all on the Joe Flacco bandwagon. And until he isn't Super Joe anymore, I'm not betting against him.


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[Assistant] We have to, we have to, we have to whittle it down, yea with the wind down. Clean it up, sanitize it. Well some puns are like, I always try to make something that's not...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but I sent Anthony a couple, and Anthony's a trooper, like, I sent him one with, when they played the Bears, I tried making a, a Beatles reference, something about Sackberry Fields, and Anthony's like, nah, like, probably not. So we like, we whittle him down until we get to something good.


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[Assistant] But I only said you won this week. That was it. That was it.


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[Assistant] We have to keep G in studio on Thursdays to make sure he gives us what he needs before he leaves because there's no guarantee he sends it in before. No. I love G.


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[Assistant] Jason's office is set up like my dream office. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Possibly on the desk. I will say the one downside of being organized is when something's not where it's supposed to be.


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[Assistant] It is all hell panic. Like 210. Like I couldn't find my wallet there. I put my wallet in the same place with my keys where I charged my phone and it wasn't there. I went through


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[Assistant] All seven stages of insanity I effed up.


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[Assistant] If the garbage can wasn't there, then you've been fine. In Jason's theory.


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[Assistant] And I take that in a heartbeat, that'd be phenomenal. I'll take that. Okay.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I could say, I may be shooting some really cool content on West 6th with a former Browns player who's very famous who's been on this show. But I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say where he's supposed to be.


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[Assistant] Oh, Bernie's always on West 6. Nah, I'm uh, I've been talking to Joe. We're trying to figure out something. Nice. Wow.


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[Assistant] I'll just read the names from the chat. Cade York? He'd miss it.


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[Assistant] Oh, I was just gonna say, gee, I do have your giveaway ready when you're ready.


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[Assistant] You- I'm gonna let you guys run with this one. I do have Mikey McNuggets list, he texted me, and I think he's missing somebody, so we can get to that too.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that's hands up my bad making the graphic, actually. Yeaah. Because he has two half a sacks, which would combine him for 14 sacks, 14 tackles for a loss. So that's on me for making the graphic or I have the number wrong. But that doesn't make any sense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just want to promo here that we do a Browns postgame show every Sunday at the Two Minute Warning, guys. It's usually me and Mike reacting to the game for the first two minutes as G and Earl watch the game so they can comment on it. After that, I drop off and you guys get the real hardcore analysis from Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] G and Earl. Two minute warning. Check us out. We'll be live even though it's Christmas Eve. We are doing a post game show this Sunday.


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[Assistant] So check us out, Sunday, two minute warning from the Houston game. Next up, guys, our offensive line has taken a beating and it's showing in our run game. What can we do to help this?


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[Assistant] Yeah, before we get into it guys, I do just want to remind you, Mikey McNuggets might be on vacation, but don't worry, Earl and I are still holding it down, and we are gonna do Behind the Glass this week. Should be tomorrow at seven, maybe six, the graphic will always say seven, cause I'm not gonna change it.


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[Assistant] Be sure to tune in to Behind the Glass. It'll be Earl and I, and we might bring on a guest this week, so tune in to that.


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[Assistant] Today we're doing a very simple over and under because I'm not as creative as Mike when I come up with these games. And our first one is Jok. Was he over under 82.5?


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[Assistant] Under from Tyvis, under from G. Over. Bull's takin' the over.


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[Assistant] Alright, so next up we got Jerome Ford. Was he over under a 58 and a half?


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[Assistant] G, G with the over. I'll tell you, two of you are correct. Sorry, it's over. He actually had a 68.4. Which, looking at the running stats from that game blew my mind.


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[Assistant] Him and J.O.K. were at the top of the box score, I think with six tackles each, if I remember off the top of my head. That was him. Thompson's clean his butt off.


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[Assistant] A player running out of the stands and tackling somebody, or a fan running out, it's just an NBA game. But next, Martin Emerson, over under 72 and a half.


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[Assistant] Alright, last one guys. We got David and Joku over under 80 and a half.


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[Assistant] Got it over from GE. Got you all again. He was under once. Steve, take it. 73.6.


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[Assistant] Before we bring Sean in, I do want to remind you guys that we do a TV show for half an hour on Fridays from 1230 to 1 with, as Mikey McNuggets likes to say,


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[Assistant] So our first one here comes from Devoid Archangel. I believe I'm saying that right. Jackson Smith and Jigba.


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[Assistant] Alright, next one comes from Ryan. He's coming to town for Thursday Night Football and Cavs. What's the best pizza downtown?


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[Assistant] If you're looking for something right on Prospect, like which is right by the stadiums, it's uh, Southern Tier has really good pizza. They're brewery, but their pizza's not bad, so.


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[Assistant] Alright, next one's coming from Matt. Thank you G on the JOK point. That man's brother did die, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he wasn't very vocal about that, but next one comes from Katz. Thank you guys from UCSS. So nice to be able to hear Brown's talk in the Washington DC territory. We love the show.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. Alright guys, Reggie says, is it reasonable for Flaco to throw the ball 40 to 50 times a game being 38? How many times would you equate per series? Is this, that isn't sustainable.


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[Assistant] I tweeted the show because my Twitter is broken for some reason, but it is- Your Twitter sucks! Every time I have to tag everybody on Twitter, I use-


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[Assistant] Don't waste your claims on frivolous, meaningless, regular season games when you can get a better claim for the playoffs when it counts. Am I right?


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[Assistant] Uh, and then there was a precipitous decline. Uh, and we've seen that a number of times with backup quarterbacks already this year. We've seen it twice.


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[Assistant] Regress to what we think he is. Uhm, is Joe Flacco immune to that tapering off? Uhm, that we've seen some of the other quarterbacks experience. Also, we did have a guest lined up from the Bears, but Dion Miller, she's a local sports anchor in Chicago. I've known her for years. She's ill.


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[Assistant] Bears related? Browns related. Inside the Browns.


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[Assistant] At the end of the year, what'd he throw? Just a handful of passes? Uh, 233.


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[Assistant] That was their issue. And, and Bull, I, so I looked at those numbers because what I, what I was gonna...


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[Assistant] Approach this. I wanted to wipe from my mind what I remembered because sometimes numbers can tell a different story.


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[Assistant] And I decided that I would look at 22 and 21. What was he at 36? What was he at 37? And it's interesting how quickly the league gave up on this guy.


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[Assistant] I don't have an answer for why. It looks like the league may have been wrong. Was he in Denver in 21? So he was with Philadelphia, I believe. And then traded to the Jets. He was at Denver.


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[Assistant] Like, why, why is this guy out of the league? Because sometimes you guys know that the league can make a consensus decision on you that you're just done.


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[Assistant] It's happened to a lot of guys. Now, it was interesting to me that it happened to Joe, and I think it was probably more age. It looked like the league was ready to tell Baker we're done, and he was young.


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[Assistant] He, he settled for a peanuts deal with Tampa Bay. But what's interesting about Flacco's 21 season...


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[Assistant] Was he really played meaningful snaps in one game?


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[Assistant] He was 24 of 39, two touchdowns, no interceptions.


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[Assistant] He didn't play for Philly. No, he was at Philly to start the season. He finished with the Jets. Right.


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[Assistant] Now the fact that he came over to the Jets and went 24 of 39.


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[Assistant] And that was it with the New York Jets. That tells you they're just incompetent. Some teams you can write off their decisions.


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[Assistant] So right now he is presently the guy, but what we've seen with Zach Wilson is this. Like there's just no consistency. No, it's more, it's more like...


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[Assistant] No, I know, but look at how we played last week. I know the game got out of hand in the second half, but they scored 30 second half points last week.


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[Assistant] My, I think my point here is, sometimes the collective league...


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[Assistant] He has lost nothing in the veteran eye department. He can still dissect defenses. He can still see open guys before the ball is snapped. You and I know that's the, that's one of the biggest skill sets a quarterback can have. He has not lost that and you rarely do.


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[Assistant] Usually the body just can't keep up with the mind. What I'm saying is, I have to go back to something Bull said and co-sign it.


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[Assistant] I'm understandable. That's why he's had a drop-off. But what I'm saying is, no one is immune to drop-offs. No one. Especially today.


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[Assistant] So what I would say is, I keep that statement in my mind. As I'm watching Joe on Sunday, I'm gonna remember Bull saying, no one's immune to it, he's not immune to it. However, if I had a pile of currency and I had to push, I can split it. I don't have to put it all on one side because I wouldn't make that bet.


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[Assistant] But I would be a lot closer to where G is. Because again, going back to his last five, six games.


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[Assistant] I know when you looked it up, I looked it up as well because I have the numbers here. The 22 numbers again, the start of the season,


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[Assistant] I think that was pretty impressive to me with the, you know, the, he, he put up against Baltimore. He was 37 of 59. And I remember the week before they played the Browns were like, you throw 60 times. That's a recipe to lose. I mean, they were down in that game big.


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[Assistant] And they ended up losing 24-9. His completion percentage was 63%. He threw a touchdown, he threw a pick.


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[Assistant] Then weirdly, again, the Jets, some teams you just have to write off on their incompetence. They had them throw the next week 52 times. Okay.


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[Assistant] Now, what did those turnovers look like? I don't know. He had two interceptions. I would say this about the fumbles.


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[Assistant] You can understand why a quarterback for the New York Jets would have a lot of fumbles. Their line has been Swiss cheese. They're getting hit from all places. So I'd have to go back and look at those. All turnovers are not created.


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[Assistant] So I don't remember them either, but what I do know is by looking at these numbers...


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[Assistant] So again, he's been right up around that 60% mark and he's been throwing for 300 yards. The, the next time he played, it was one of three. It was my, it was a spot injury duty. Then the last game of the season, which I, I'm always


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[Assistant] Cautious on measuring someone's stats the last week of the season, and we all know why.


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[Assistant] What's the other team doing? What's your situation? Clearly the Jets were in ride it into the sunset mode.


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[Assistant] He was 18 of 33, 149 yards. He did not throw an interception. He did not throw a touchdown. I think you said he fumbled.


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[Assistant] What I'm, the reason I bring up all these numbers is I just don't see...


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[Assistant] In old days, remember Don Strock was the quarterback in 1988 that had to come save the Browns season when Bernie got hurt. They used four quarterbacks too.


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[Assistant] Back then it was not uncommon to see, well hell, Bernie Cozart wrote out the end of his career. He was a career backup.


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[Assistant] Because of the dynamics and the economics of the league, that's no longer afforded NFL teams to have that luxury of paying a veteran money to be a backup quarterback. What I'm saying is,


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[Assistant] I think what the league was telling Joe is, you're no longer top 32. You're just not.


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[Assistant] Even with the New York Jets, which you can argue that all day long. I think the league was saying you're not top 32. But for the Browns, they don't need him to be top 32. The Browns needed a bullpen guy. They needed someone to bring in relief and save the season. And so far, he seems to be


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[Assistant] No, it's not. Again, not a sure thing. It's also not a sure thing that he's going to have a huge regression. If I had to bet my chips, I would put more on him playing well enough for the Browns to continue to go.


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[Assistant] No, I got, I, look, it's just a flawed system and to Bull's point, it's thankfully going away.


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[Assistant] Guys will, it's gonna happen. Like, I think they gave, uhm, they gave strong one carry last week, and it was, uh, it was, I think, it was outside zone run, weak side, like, there was nothing there. That play wasn't gonna be there for anybody. I just wanna see what he can do.


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[Assistant] If they say you're gonna get 18 to 20 carries, we're not gonna run you on pitches or sweeps to try to get you to the corner. To Leroy's point, this is the NFL. You don't get to the corner anymore.


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[Assistant] And we haven't seen him and that scares me. What is he looking like in practice that he can't even get?


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[Assistant] You'd think that if there, if he was flashing in practice and the coaches were like, this, this guy's stopping the run. He's, he's, he's what we need. He would be in the game. So again,


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[Assistant] I think that their minds may have changed a little bit in the time since they've drafted him. And you know, they do have other guys, but these other guys are falling down and they're getting hurt. So now is the time to your point. This is it. If we don't see him play and, and, and flash a little bit,


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[Assistant] This is, I know it's still very, very early, but if you had to put your flag in, he's a hit or he's a miss as a draft pick where they took him. It's hard to make a case that he's been a hit.


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[Assistant] To, to, to Bull's point. Bull, that's, that's a terrific point. How the hell is he supposed to learn when he can't practice his craft? That's like asking a baseball player to start.


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[Assistant] So on average, on average, it's once every six practices. It's not even once a week. And it's, it's really hard.


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[Assistant] Right, he said, no, no, it was Joe Thomas. When Joe was on, he said, it just takes a certain number of hits to, and I love the way he phrased it, callus the body. Yeah, I agree with that. So how are you supposed to callus the body when you're hitting once every week and a half?


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[Assistant] But no, I'll show you why it's one and a half. It's 12 weeks, but it's how many weeks are there in the season? 18. Yes. Okay. So 12 divided by 18 is one and a half. So it's two every three weeks.


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[Assistant] You know what, I think we got to give Andrew Berry the benefit of the doubt. Uhm, we've talked a lot about his picks, like every GM he's had some misses, he's had some hits. I think he plays the long game with his draft picks, and not the short game. I mean, you look at Cedric Tillman, we were scratching our head going,


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[Assistant] Why did you exactly... But now we're starting to see. There's a plan for him. He's getting more involved. Maybe his plan, excuse me, year, was to bring in the reinforcements for year one. When they really, when there was a desperate need at that position, groom him slowly.


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[Assistant] So it's a time game. You just have to wait and see. But I do think that, you know, because of the injuries and because of the situation, be surprised if he didn't get some snacks.


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[Assistant] And if you think about a player like him, he's been the best player wherever he's been. You know, he was a star in high school, he was a star in college. Now he's watched in street clothes for 13 weeks.


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[Assistant] And the story was that teens


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[Assistant] Our 90% of teens in a survey responded that they are on YouTube almost constantly.


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[Assistant] We are a dumb country. And honestly, it's the distractions. It's the distraction. Even you admitted it. You know, when you were a place, when you were a starter, the PlayStation went away.


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[Assistant] Here in Ohio, the high school coach speaks regularly with the junior high coach who speaks regularly with the bitty program coach. And there's an offense.


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[Assistant] It shouldn't. No, it shouldn't. You have to look ahead to every, and Kevin Stefanski says this, we're 0-1-0.


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[Assistant] Yes. Get them in now. Just like we were talking about early on the first Deshaun Watson injury. Why aren't they calling Flacco? Get them in the system. This guy clearly might get a reoccurrence of the injury. Get them in the system. They waited a long time and hasn't hurt them yet, but let me see that list.


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[Assistant] Here's what it is, guys. You've got a budget for, for, you got no money, but you just got a job. You need a car. You're not gonna go get a loan for a $75,000 car. You're in the, like, the...


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[Assistant] You know what, there was a point last week when I'm like, these guys must share shaving tips.


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[Assistant] I've spent time thinking about that over the last couple of days. Because the karma in that, like they stole our team.


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[Assistant] When he was good, I gave Deshaun all the credit in the world. But you also brought up...


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[Assistant] As heroic as he was in the second half, I still saw what happened in the first half, and Watson looked like he was on another planet.


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[Assistant] I don't know how he flipped the switch at halftime, I'm glad he did. But that was, my fear in that game was that is a microcosm of the floor and the ceiling for Deshaun Watson all in three hours.


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[Assistant] I think it actually exceeded the floor. I never imagined he could be that bad.


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Unbelievable. He's a warrior.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at this team going, wait a minute. Their calling card last year was defense. It was terrible guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think he's exceeded what folks, but I think that's an indictment on the coaching staff. He's exceeded what our expectations were, but the fact that he's even in a situation to contribute at all, what does that say about the


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[Assistant] When they were up eight in the third quarter last night, late in the third quarter, I think it was 92, 84, somewhere in that ballpark. I said,


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[Assistant] Here's, here we go. Boston's gonna flip their switch and I think they scored 13 in a row, something like that. They went on a huge run.


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[Assistant] And we didn't have a chance. And I don't love the fact that they hit 19 threes. I don't think this team is built that way, even though they went out and got better shooting in the off season, which they had to and it was sorely blacking and needed to be addressed. Now we're all of a sudden a three point shooting team.


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[Assistant] It's nuts. You're right though about how all three teams have just switched places. It's always been the Cavs and Guardians are fun to watch and the Browns were like slow water torture. Now it's like give me the Browns games and I watched the Cavs game last night and I'm telling you my hand was shaking with the remote in it.


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[Assistant] I'm done. I'm done. I was gonna blast out. I couldn't, but they're not fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Jay has four, everybody else has tied at two. Oh wow.


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[Assistant] A worldwide game is interesting, and I think it's gaining some traction.


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[Assistant] The folks that I talked to in Germany, I talked to someone that was in Germany that did not go to the game, but they said the country was a buzz the whole week. Everybody was talking about it, which is kinda crazy.


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[Assistant] You're right, there is. You know, someone, I don't know if it's still the case, someone once told me that cricket, and you have to consider why, it's huge in India.


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[Assistant] I do too. I think it's great. It's a page out of the NBA book. Look what the NBA in the 80s. People don't know this.


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[Assistant] The NBA Finals in the 1980s.


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[Assistant] But if you think about it, they've hijacked really three full days. Cause Thursday night, Sunday, all day from, and when they play in Europe, you have football, NFL football from 10 in the morning.


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[Assistant] And then Monday, they have Monday Night Football and during the holidays, it's like you said, a couple on Saturday, you got Thursday, you got a full slate Sunday, a game Monday. Three games Monday. It's weird when I saw a one o'clock game on Monday that looked so strange.


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[Assistant] It'll be interesting if that happens to see who, cause people are gonna have to choose.


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[Assistant] Uh, busy show, really busy show, 90 minutes here. And then, uh, it's the coveted 30 minutes of never before seen Brown's coverage coming up at WKYC Channel 3 at 1230. I like the look. Is that the Christmas theme? It's the most festive.


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[Assistant] We have Tim Couch on our 90 minute show. Uh, a lot of talk about the Texans and the Browns, how they match up. Uhm, it's gonna be a lot of fun today because I've got a stat that I'm gonna give after Mikey says his first hello of the day, uhm, that blew my mind. And I'm not sure if you guys have seen this yet.


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[Assistant] But it really, it's one of the most incredible stats I've seen maybe all year.


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[Assistant] We're gonna dive right in, but before we do, I have to give this stat. A viewer sent this to me yesterday in my email, and I said, that is patently false. There is no way that's a fact. I have to look this up, because if it's true, it's gonna stun everybody. But this is, it's true. I looked it up.


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[Assistant] Going back to when Drew Brees left the Chargers.


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[Assistant] Drew Brees, now remember, he went on to have a Hall of Fame career with New Orleans, won a Super Bowl. Was that like 2002? 2005. Since the day Drew Brees left.


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[Assistant] The chargers have moved. San Diego and Los Angeles have started a grand total of four quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Going back to 2005, the Browns have started four quarterbacks this year. This year.


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[Assistant] Well, even though they had long stretches with Favre and then Rodgers, Favre didn't get hurt, but I think Rodgers may have in there. But look it up. Just, uh, all the time Green Bay Packers quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Probably 2006 was the date. 2005 was when Drew Brees left the Saints. So you're literally talking about 18 years. What really struck me I think was the fact that Philip Rivers


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[Assistant] Yeah. You would have told me that he wouldn't have been one of them. I would have said that's wrong. That's false.


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[Assistant] Anyhow, that stat just tore my mind up. And what I did was I went back even a little bit longer.


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[Assistant] The Browns have had ten quarterbacks in the last four or five years, because they had a bunch last year, the year before. You can go back ten quarterbacks and listen to some names that you get thrown in there. Let's go from the bottom. Easton Stick, Justin Herbert, Tyrod Taylor, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees. Go six back, you're at Doug Flutie. Jeez.


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[Assistant] Then you've got, at nine back, Jim Harbaugh. Right. At ten back, you're at Ryan Leith.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's that far, yeaah. Look, they had a stretch of years that were very Browns-like.


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[Assistant] Okay. It's still stunning that you could go 18 years and start four quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And the Browns have started four quarterbacks. The emailer said in October, but I don't think Flacco started a game in October, so that can't be right.


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[Assistant] Uh, but still, I mean for dramatic purposes, just, you know, this season they've started as many as the Chargers have started in the last 18 years.


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[Assistant] You better stop being pick immune. You're going to throw picks. You've got an arm to make a lot of throws.


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[Assistant] If you start making picks and you lose your courage was the word Bernie used. Then you become check down Charlie. You're going nowhere that way. He said the great quarterbacks are not afraid to throw for that's what he said. And then he went on to say what you just said. That throw to Amari never happens.


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[Assistant] You take the good and you hope that the good far outweighs the bad. Brett Favre was like that. Peyton Manning early in his career was an interception machine. And he had somebody very important in his ear, his dad, who played with a very bad franchise in the NFL and told him, you're gonna throw picks. Just get used to it. It's part of the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm glad you went that way because the way I was gonna come at this, yeah, he's definitely gonna throw turnovers. Just get used to it. It's part of Joe Flacco. It's part of why we love him. He's got the big arm. He's got courage and onions that we haven't seen in Cleveland in a very, very, very long time. The analogy I was gonna use was,


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[Assistant] All the other guys, DTR, not so much Deshaun Watson, but DTR and Philip Rivers were using a shovel.


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[Assistant] He just waltzes in there with his backhoe, sticks that thing in the ground, and it's the pass to Omari Cooper. That can get you out of a previous interception. Also, he knows what he has


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[Assistant] On the sidelines when he's on the field. That's a pretty damn good defense. That's a safety net for his interceptions. I don't want to put them in jeopardy. Now last week he threw a pick six and another one that led to the six yard line or whatever it was that led to another touchdown. You can't make a habit of doing that.


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[Assistant] And because of that, I'm gonna try to make throws that I wouldn't make if I had the 27th ranked defense. So it's complimentary football. It's having the backhoe arm to dig you out of whatever holes you might create. And I'm okay with those turnovers as long as this.


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[Assistant] The TD number has to be bigger than the INT number. We can't have two touchdowns, three interceptions, one touchdown, three interceptions. It's got to be three touchdowns, one


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[Assistant] You had a 280 batting average as a team. Yeah. And the number two team batting average was 240. Yeah, it's a pretty big difference. I mean, when you put it into those turns, that's a huge gap.


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[Assistant] Last week with the second one and then the third one and I'm like, you can't win that way.


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[Assistant] As a rule, you can do that against some of the, like Bull said, some of the bottom rung teams, like the Bears and maybe the Texans even, without their starting quarterback. But when you get into the playoffs, those teams, when you make a mistake against those teams, they put their foot on your throat and they choke you out. They make you pay for those mistakes.


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[Assistant] And so you live with the good and you hope that it's better than the bad. And it's a little like Josh Allen. Josh Allen has been picked prone the last two years, but when you're throwing for 5,000 yards and 40 touchdowns, you'll take some of that bad stuff.


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[Assistant] Bernie and fans wanted to throw the football because it was sexy and it looked good and you could get 50 yards in one play as opposed to 50 yards in eight plays. Uh, Marty Schottenheimer said, we're not built for that. We're in Cleveland. It's muddy. It's cold. This travels. Let's


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[Assistant] Go heavy with the running backs. So they went with Mack and Biner and they were successful. They didn't ultimately win a Super Bowl, but I think


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[Assistant] 1002. I'm glad that you asked the question this way, Mikey, because there is a news item.


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[Assistant] But I'm gonna work it in right here as part of my answer, cause it's an analogy. Your question was, will you feel happy or embarrassed?


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[Assistant] And my answer is the way I feel right now about the Cleveland Guardians this offseason.


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[Assistant] On one hand, you have the Los Angeles Dodgers who last night signed a $325 million picture, uh, deal for the best picture that some say the Japanese leagues have ever seen. Better than Otani, but the best one that's ever come out. He's 25 years old. He got $325 million. Yamamoto. You're going to hear a lot about him next year.


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[Assistant] Prior to that, they had spent $700 million to get Shohei Otani.


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[Assistant] So when you juxtapose what the Dodgers have done to what the Guardians have done, here's what you have it.


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[Assistant] The Dodgers have spent over a billion dollars because they also signed another pitcher and gave him a hundred million, I believe. So it's 1.1 billion that they've spent.


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[Assistant] So, there's that, and then you look at the guardians, and they spent, and I gotta credit my friend Reflog for this, cause he tweeted this out this morning, it made me laugh. The guardians have spent 6 million total.


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[Assistant] Com-com-compared to 1.1 billion, and we get Austin hedges and blue seats.


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[Assistant] But the blue, I love the blue, so I'm happy. Not much of a bat, but he brings the World Series Ring with him.


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[Assistant] But when I look at what the Dodgers have done and they've spent 1.1 billion on three players, I'm embarrassed. So when he goes over a thousand yards, I will be happy. Amari Cooper, that is a great accomplishment.


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[Assistant] It happens so infrequently. And he will be the first receiver in team history to have two back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.


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[Assistant] Tim, he's made some great throws. You talked about the picks and some of them were definitely not on him. Those are balls that are going to be picked off. You throw it 40 times a game, you're going to have interceptions in there.


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[Assistant] The one throw that really stood out to us last week was the route to Omari Cooper that he took for a touchdown. Uhm, I don't know if you remember the play. I think we have it on tag board. We don't.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you may remember the play. There were defenders converging. The lane, which maybe started this big, was about the width of the football by the time the football got to them. Cooper made the catch and took it for a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Talk about what's going on in his head as he sees that play developing. He knows that you're trying to throw a football between two moving walls that are closing in on each other. What's the thought process of that? And what in your mind is the completion probability of that throw before he makes it?


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[Assistant] Cleveland Browns, going back to the 50s, maybe ever ever in their entire history, never won 12 games, or was that? One time. One time.


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[Assistant] But what would it, what would it say to you if with all of these dings and adversities, and you mentioned them earlier, the chub, the line, four quarterbacks, that this front office and this head coach has guided


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[Assistant] This team filled with hurdles thrown in their way becomes the second Brown's team in their existence in the NFL to win 12 games. What does that tell you about this team and those that run it?


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Glad to hear he's on board with the, uh, with the Browns winning their 10th game of the season. He makes some really good points about, uh, this job Stefanski has done. He thinks he'd be the front runner if he gets to, uh, 11 wins.


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[Assistant] The Browns play Thursday. By this point next week, the Browns could be 11 and 4. That's right.


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[Assistant] Now, do we wanna, if he's got tonsillitis, too.


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[Assistant] The Browns run game is gone. It's evaporated like, like the fall leaves on the trees. It's just, it's gone. We can't block.


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[Assistant] The offensive line is a mess, even though it might be getting more healthy.


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[Assistant] I think that makes Joe Flacco even more important than ever before. If, another way I do this sometimes is reverse engineering. If, and I do it this way, who are the 10 players that I just can't afford to lose?


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[Assistant] And for me, Flacco is really only number two to Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] It does, I know, I know, and I thought about that too. However, you guys may not remember, but a couple of weeks ago,


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[Assistant] And I can't believe that what's happened in just two weeks, but.


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[Assistant] McNuggets and I were the only two advocating for Joe Flacco to be in at number 10. Remember that? And we lost out on the vote. Well, that was only because it was after one game. We're ready to go there yet. But I, I was like,


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[Assistant] I think one of the great tennis players, it might have been, um, Sampras or one of them. And he was talking about who's your top five, uh, sports center anchors of all time.


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[Assistant] And he listed him and Neil Everett wasn't in it. Neil kept saying, I'm in the top five. I'm in the top five. I can hear Joe Flacco saying, guys,


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[Assistant] If the Browns, and I don't think this is even mathematically possible, but if with the win, they lock themselves in at the five.


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[Assistant] And Baltimore wins against San Francisco and there's no chance that the Browns can then get the one because they've got to lose to San Francisco. They have to.


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[Assistant] So if by some miracle of all of these events happening where the Browns find out Monday morning, we're the five and that can't change. Right. Then I definitely sit them against the Jets.


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[Assistant] But I read a lot about what their defense does and how he's kind of the linchpin to their defense and that he's had a great year.


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[Assistant] Coming into this year, he was just like a guy, he was a piece. And now he's become the central piece, and for that, I'm with you, I give him four.


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[Assistant] Go Wyatt Teller again. Cooper at four. So I mean we've already got two Cooper. If you don't go Wyatt Teller, Cooper gets the five.


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[Assistant] There is a number for like blood alcohol content to go low. It's like 0.08 is legally drunk. There is, and this is going to be a big thing in Ohio now that it's legal, there is a test.


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[Assistant] I think it's a blood test that immediately will tell the officer how many parts per million


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[Assistant] I'm nervous that there's only one Texan, and then if it comes out where they win, we're like, man, were we in the clouds? Alright, I'm gonna go with tonsil.


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[Assistant] I just, that, that image is one of the all-time great sports ever. Like when you show that to die-hard fans, they're, they, even though you can't see the man's face, they're going to tell you that they know who that is. And they know the story. That's right. Mike, you know, we forgot to have a schedule for today. Can we make that a sticker?


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[Assistant] Before you do that, can I just take a second? Yeah, of course. If you're watching right now, uh, it's time for our daily like-a-thon.


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[Assistant] And odds are you do, if you're watching us putting pictures of people with gas masks on, smoking pot, you must like what we're bringing to you. Just take a second, hit that like button, it helps us tremendously, it helps us when people are searching for Cleveland Brown's content.


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[Assistant] Five seconds of silence for you to like this program.


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[Assistant] When you're on to starting quarterback number two, you have a lesser quality player.


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[Assistant] When you're on to starting quarterback number three, you have an even lesser quality player. Typically.


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[Assistant] But Bull appropriately came up with the stat that put all of that into perspective. He said, okay, who's the coach right now that is pretty much universally looked at as one of the best young coaches in football?


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[Assistant] So what you're saying is if this game comes down to the fourth quarter, it will be decided by Flacco's fourth quarter greatness, rowing it, against Houston's fourth quarter greatness in stopping it.


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[Assistant] I had no idea Collins and their quarterbacks throwing to him have been that successful on man coverage on the outside. And also something that's really driving home with all these numbers that you're throwing at us.


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[Assistant] I know we all agree that Miles Garrett is the son.


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[Assistant] To this universe on defense and everybody else is a planet going around him.


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[Assistant] But when, when you look at their success on man pass coverage, and you keep saying that's the best in the NFL since 2009. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] They have right now what teams dream of. And that is a Hall of Fame caliber pass rusher.


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[Assistant] And a back end to a defense that makes it almost impossible for quarterbacks to find receivers in man coverage. This is the kind of formula that can take a team deep in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] The overwhelming opinion of the panel was one that I share. I just think that because there are no other weapons for Mahomes to throw to, the defense has just decided you're not going to


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[Assistant] You'll give us Kelsey for a joke? Hold on, let me check with our assistant GM. Bull, Andy Reid on the horn. Yes. Straight up right now.


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[Assistant] One more thing, can you call up that picture of David Njoku, the stat, the last one? I think the league's getting on to him. He's gotta stop trying to hurdle guys. He's gonna get hurt. The Bears last week were sitting on it.


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[Assistant] Kelsey's missed time. Kelsey was hurt. You're right.


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[Assistant] Clearly. And he was like, you know, this is nonsense that I haven't had more of those wins. I'm going to go out and get a bunch of them. So he's purposely put himself in position to get those wins. And then he's come back and no other team has


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[Assistant] Well, one thing, not that it would answer the question as to why, but they have played eight home games and six road games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's for the, uh, the never before seen Brown's content. What you're about to see when you flip over to channel three, you've never seen before.


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[Assistant] No, never. And, uh, you know, I was certainly extremely impressed, impressed with, uh, with Joe last week, uh, you know, come in, being in, uh, being in the building for only a couple of weeks and coming out and playing the way he did, especially, you know, in that first half, I thought he played some great football and excited to see what he can do this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, timing that it's, I think it's, it's super impressive. Obviously Joe has been a great player in this league for a long time, but you know, still when you're, when you've been on a roster for two weeks, you barely even know these guys name much less.


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[Assistant] How they come out of the routes and the timing it takes to throw those. Uh, it was super impressive and Joe did a lot of things, uh, in that game that I was impressed with just managing, managing the offense, getting in and out of the huddle, uh, going to the right spot with the football, throwing the football on time, throwing the ball accurately. Uh, I was super impressed. I thought, I thought it was a great performance by him.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I guess it's just kind of an age thing. Maybe, you know, maybe he's, you know, teams just say maybe he's a little too old or whatever. But I think, you know, obviously, you know, when I saw him, uh, when I first saw him in the, when he came out for the first drive against, uh, against the Rams, I was like, this guy's got some football left. You know, I don't know, you know, obviously I don't know if he can go a whole season for you, but you know, to go out and play a few games.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, with a pass rush like, like Cleveland has, you got a guy like Miles Garrett who can, you know, get after the quarterback. You don't want your quarterback to be sitting duck in the pocket where he's, you know, you can put the braces on it, take him up. But if he's just standing there, you know, Miles and those guys are going to have a field day against him if he can't move.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I'm a little concerned because, you know, I don't, I guess, I think we haven't, I don't think we've had a sack in the last two weeks. Uhm, you know, and that's concerning considering who we have up front. You know, this defense is built