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[Assistant] He had the elbow against the Steelers. He was in and out of the game Monday night. He was out of practice today, I saw earlier. Now the Titans don't have the receiving core maybe of the Bengals or some of these other league teams. We've got two decent receivers there. Yea, but the Browns also have two decent corners.


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[Assistant] I will as soon as you give me a picture that doesn't make me look like a wrestler.


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[Assistant] I think Jerome Ford's going to get the bulk of the carries is Kareem. I agree with that. Maybe they use cream and Kareem will be on the field. Kevin just said that. I just don't think he's going to play a lot. I just,


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[Assistant] Just don't see how it's possible. But three is not a lot. And I don't think he's got a lot left in the tank anyway. Like I just, this is a, this is an emergency signing. This is not a guy that they're going to be counting on heavily for, for a lot of big moments. I'm just down on it. I think this was easy.


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[Assistant] He's, he did a nice job of disrupting the game Sunday or Monday night without necessarily recording big numbers. And he's got, it's coming. He's got a game coming in him and I'll put my money on it being this one.


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[Assistant] Alright, Jason, what's your headline? Alright, first my preamble. I already said if you watch the show on YouTube, I said that I was gonna take the Titans even if the Browns won Monday night just because it was such a physical game. It's coming on a short week. I think we always undervalue the Titans.


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[Assistant] And I hate being wrong, so I went back and forth on this and back and forth on this and back and forth on this and ultimately I landed on...


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[Assistant] The Titans are going to win. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry in advance. That's the first time anybody on the


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[Assistant] That's a headline with the Browns losing all season. Homecoming king, Mike Vrabel goes to 3-0, stays perfect in games in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] If Nick Chubb's career is over, which I hope it's not. Right. You're still gonna need a running back one, so you would have Jonathan Taylor, you would obviously have to pay him. Right, but it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a blueprint for getting running backs.


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[Assistant] You know, one, he's from Cleveland. So that right there holds something there. You know, when you get guys that's from the city and they understand, you know, just the drought that you've been in and how things have been, you want to be the reason to change that narrative. It means a little bit more to you.


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[Assistant] I mean, listen, you was behind the man, Nick Chubb, so your caries was not great.


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[Assistant] And he didn't really have a lot of good moments last year, I think. But before that, I thought he had some time where he ran angry. And I think that's the thing that he brings. That's what I like about him. That's what he brings to this thing. Because like I say, we talked about Pierre Strong after


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[Assistant] The 69 yard run from Jerome Ford. He got stoned on the one yard line, but then he ended up getting in. You get a guy like Kareem Hunt, which I was saying on the show yesterday, they needed a physical running back that could come in there and get those short yardage, uh, gold line plays. And I think he fits that mold also.


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[Assistant] What I really like about him is that he had a relationship with Nick Chubb. Like him and Nick Chubb was pretty close.


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[Assistant] So he understands the magnitude of the injury and he wants to make sure he


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[Assistant] When I watched him last year, it was a big difference between him and Nick Chubb. And you know, we kinda talked about it a little bit last year, but we never went all the way in on it. And I think we're about to find out.


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[Assistant] Now that Nick Chubb isn't there, how good he really is. I don't think that offensive line was really great last year because...


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[Assistant] Exactly, but, and I think it showed when Kareem was in there. It was like, Nick Chubb can make guys miss, and Nick Chubb's gonna, he's never gonna let the first tackle him again. And he breaks tackles. Exactly. Kareem Hunt, it seemed like when he got the ball,


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[Assistant] They was in the backfield and he just couldn't get away. He couldn't break the tackle or nothing. I think if this offensive line works together and creates the gap, I think he can still be effective because he runs the ball really hard.


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[Assistant] So did Jen Will, so did DeWine, so did Wyatt Teller, so did Deshaun, so did Kevin. That list is very long.


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[Assistant] He's getting the benefit of the doubt coming in because, like I told you yesterday, if I'm a defensive coordinator,


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[Assistant] I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about that. So that means he could come in and just elect


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[Assistant] Let me get the people a tease. Later on in this show, we gonna show a couple of plays where Deshaun Watson has some, some.


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[Assistant] There's a mixture of both, mixture of both.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he didn't have a lot of opportunity. He was upset about it. I mean, like I said, during the Browns radio network, I get to hear his locker room talk. He was very quiet, very quick, always kept the ski mask on, didn't really want to say a lot, but didn't want to


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[Assistant] Not be professional and not answer questions. So you could tell he was definitely bothered by the situation that was at hand. But also, like I said, the office alarm wasn't great. So that helped that limited his production. And I still believe that he did lose the gear. So that too.


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[Assistant] Now, okay, y'all, y'all lost probably one of the heart and souls of your team. Offensively. And not even offensively, just as a teammate.


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[Assistant] How do you honor him? If this is your guy. That's right. You know, if this is your guy and this is your brother, this is family, how do you honor him?


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[Assistant] They'll have six days to gather the wins. You're going into this knowing that he's not going to be there no more. You know that maybe his career could potentially be over. So.


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[Assistant] How do you honor him? That's my question. As a, as a coach.


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[Assistant] You coach harder. You do that extra prep. You make sure you give that guy that extra nugget. Make sure that they're well prepared for that game as a player.


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[Assistant] You go out there and you cherish every single moment, every play that you own that field, you go out there and you go as hard as you can because you just witnessed that the next play is not promised.


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[Assistant] And that, and you know why you do it? Because the guy that you honoring, that's what he did every time he touched that field. And you don't want to disrespect him and anything that he's brought to that organization. So you go out there and you play as hard as you freaking can. And don't worry, if you, if you get tired, if you go out for dehydration, they will carry you off the field because that's what Nick Chubb would have done.


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[Assistant] So that's what you do for the rest of this season. You honor your brother that's down, and you play as hard as you possibly can, and you win as many games. Deshaun Watson, listen. I was on, uh, Twitter yesterday.


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[Assistant] And I seen Nick Wright, you know, the national media. Nick Wright was on First Things First and he was saying, you're done. He said, if this right here, you're never coming back. This is going to go down as the worst transaction of all time.


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[Assistant] What you do with that is you prove him wrong. You prove him wrong. You got so much, you got so much baggage and so much stuff that's happened in your life.


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[Assistant] Deshawn, they, all this national media said that you're done. They said you have no, there's no way that you get back to who you were. And you said before the season you wanted to be better than that.


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[Assistant] Not that this team is riding on you. And it's a lot of pressure. You got a coaching staff that's depending on you. You got star players that's depending on you. You got guys that even came here because of you. Because they believe in you.


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[Assistant] What do you do with all of that pressure? Like, like Bull just alluded to, you say


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[Assistant] Rocky says if you get knocked down, you can get back up again. You know, it's not about as hard as you get hit, it's about as hard as you can take a hit and keep going, you know. You got knocked smooth out last month on Monday. You got knocked smooth out. Is that smooth with a V? Smooth!


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[Assistant] You, this whole city still believes in you. There's a couple of naysayers, but that's, that's everywhere in life. Anytime you supposed to be the man, you gonna deal with some naysayers.


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[Assistant] You gotta, you gotta show up. You gotta show out. You know, this, you don't have, you don't have the luxury of the running game to, that we think. You know, maybe Jerome Ford can be, maybe Kareem Hunt can be. But right now, it's all about you. What do you do with that? You gotta go out there, you have to, you have to deliver.


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[Assistant] And like I said, I'm going to break this film down because I see what your problem is a little bit. Oh, so you're going to fix them? You're suffering a little bit of the Josh Allen syndrome. You got to let that go. That's half the problem.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just take what they give you. You're trying to do too much at times. Alright, I can't wait to see that segment.


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[Assistant] Make the play, keep the sticks moving, because it's not about...


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[Assistant] Throwing this pretty ball downfield all the time. It's actually about just keeping the chains moving. A lot of quarterbacks have been successful. There's so many quarterbacks that's won super bowls from just checking the ball down and taking what the defense has given them. You gotta find that, you gotta do it. I know you can identify where to go with the football. You gotta stand in there and deliver that ball. Because if you don't,


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[Assistant] You went to Clemson, you went to Houston, you resurrected two places. Because Clemson wasn't that great when you got there, but you made them something. You won them a championship. And Houston wasn't really that good, but you took them to the playoffs and you actually, I don't know if you won a game. They won a game. They won a game in Houston. So you got what it takes to do it. You can resurrect the franchise.


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[Assistant] And you understand the situation that he's been and the leader that he was.


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[Assistant] And I remember him saying, yeaah, I was just nervous, you know, I had to jitter. So it was like, as a defense, we're thinking to ourselves, we're in shock and we're upset because JT is out, but we like, we gotta win this game. Like, we don't know what we gonna get from the quarterback, so we gotta win this game. Obviously,


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[Assistant] Through the heroics of Zeke, in a fourth and one, he ended up icing the game and blah blah blah.


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[Assistant] As a defense, it was still, we just seen the performance Cardio gave, it wasn't that great, so the only way we're gonna win these games is if we have to play lights out defense. And I'm pretty sure that's what the Browns are thinking right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was a similar situation where that defense, where defense started to step up and then once the offense, once Cardio got that rhythm and he started completing these passes and he got his confidence, it came and he was able to just continue to make plays. So that's why I know Deshaun can do it because he did it. He's done it in, he's done it in the league, he's done it in college, he's done it in high school.


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[Assistant] It's something about that, like when you get into that groove, like alright, just completion, just completion. And then guess what happens? You get that corner that's so desperate to stop that. Then take a deep right. Then you hit them with the double move and now that deep ball is open. But the only way, you can't open the game up just throwing deep balls. That's not gonna work.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper and him is all timing. If you ever watch him play, him and Amari Cooper has a timing. He knows that when I take this three step hitch, when I hitch up, ball gotta come out, Amari Cooper's expecting it. And I know you know that because when I listen to you on PostGay, thank you Browns Radio Network for allowing me to listen to PostGay.


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[Assistant] They ask you a bunch of times, why did you do this? Or why didn't you throw that ball to Mark Cooper? You will say, out of your mouth.


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[Assistant] I definitely, I thought that they could make the AFC Championship game. Really? I did. What is their ceiling now for you?


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[Assistant] Yes, because obviously because of the play of four, but I mean with the play of four, I anticipated four being much better, but it's something about the Browns like to come out in that first half and they like to hit you hard. They like to try to get up fast and it was something about having Nick Chubb in the second half that I was just like.


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[Assistant] Now that he's not there, what it does is it leaves the, the window for teams to come back open. Right. And that's what scares me. Because it's, you go up against a Patrick Mahomes, he's never out of it. Now with Nick Chubb, he might be out of it because you bleeding the clock out. But if you don't have that, that's not gonna happen. So are they a playoff?


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[Assistant] Alright, so on this play right here, this is the play to Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore is running this spray out.


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[Assistant] And it's on Deshaun Watson because his timing is down. Right here, that ball should be gone. But you see, he pats it, he hits, and he takes a while to get rid of it, allowing that DB to get back. But it's not just his fault. Elijah Moore has to get flat. As you see right there, the ball should be out of his hand. But Elijah Moore should go straight down that line.


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[Assistant] If he goes straight down that line, that DB doesn't get that angle and that ball has to get put towards the sideline. On this one right here.


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[Assistant] You got this wide open. I understand it's third and long, but give your guys a chance. You got Pierre Armstrong, the running back right there. He catches this ball, he breaks the tackle, he's the first down. Exactly. His last one right here, he, he gotta put the ball, him and Harrison Bryant need to get in the, in the lab together because this ball is behind him again. He puts this ball in front of him or on him.


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[Assistant] Him and Harrison Bryant need to get in the lab together and figure it out. But you can see, Deshaun Watson, it's on him, but it's not solely on him on this play. You know, like I said.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. I don't know what it is. With Elmari Cooper, he makes that play nine times out of ten. But with anybody else, it's for some odd reason he, he watches the route and makes sure they're open. So I don't know if he's not working with them enough or whatever the case may be, but they spent all this time together in the offseason.


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[Assistant] So when I, when I watch the clip, it makes me realize, like, I see why he hesitated a little bit. Cause he like, oh wait, he ain't flat yet. Okay, let me adjust it now. Let me make the thing. So I, I get what he was seeing. So Elijah Moore, as great as a route runner as he is, he does have to be, he has to help his quarterback out and run the routes exactly to the two. You got the pick six mic or no?


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[Assistant] To be honest with you, next level, it doesn't matter where the quarterback's looking. You know what you're supposed to look as a safety? You're supposed to look at his shoulder tip. If his shoulder tip is going to, and his shoulders is pointing to where he's going anyway. So if I'm a safety, I'm not looking at his eyes even if he is down the middle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, top of the, top of the hitch, usually quarterbacks is going there. If it's a timing thing, if it's all about timing, when a quarterback takes his three step drop, he go boom boom boom and he hitch, hitches up.


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[Assistant] That's where the ball is going, typically nine times out of ten, cause that's timing.


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[Assistant] If it's not that and he's truly reading the thing, then you got time to look at your safeties, which you should be doing anyways. You should be looking, digesting what covers they're in. Then you say in your mind, okay, they're in cover two, let me work the middle. Or if it's one high, all right, then I got the outside. So that's typically how you can look off of.


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[Assistant] Until after I snap the ball, you gotta look at the down safety. If the down safety drops in the box, cover one or cover three. If he stays high and you got two on the roof, it's cover two. Is the safety his tell? That's every quarterback's tell. They're always looking at the safety.


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[Assistant] That's why, that's why as a safety they say don't move, hold it as long as you can, but you can't hold it enough that you can't do your responsibility. Because if you just stand there and don't do nothing, he won't


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[Assistant] The best way to do it and the best way really to do it is always to look at.


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[Assistant] Typically you want to move, especially if it's a blitz on, you hold that blitz until that clock gets to about 5 or 4 seconds. Because if you get that lucky, he can't change the play. He has to run it. So you wait until about 5 or 4 seconds, boom, get to where you're going to get, because at that point it's too late. I mean that's the game right there.


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[Assistant] He sees that the corner's on top. What do you throw? Back shoulder fade. That's, I mean, this, this is the best throw. So it tells you he got the arm talent. He trusted his guys to make a play at court. Obviously, one, two. Elijah Moore probably


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[Assistant] Bust the coverage and that gets wide open, but for the most part, when you see the coverage, you dissect what it is. It's a certain point. It's a couple of options. You got one, two, check down. It's one, two, check down typically every play. You got one read, two read. If it's not there, throw the check down.


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[Assistant] Dependent, sometimes when I look at play calling, they be like, it's the play calling, it doesn't work. If the route, if the route doesn't work, I think it's the receiver not getting open. That's part of it. Cause if they ran a route and he not winning his routes and the corner's that good, obviously ain't got nobody to go to. And then two, did the quarterback make the right read?


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[Assistant] They, they isolate that buzzer, that first guy's gonna take that hook dropper, and then when that guy, the buzzer's gonna think that he's running out, he's gonna put his foot in the ground and come back, nobody should be in that area, you should be able to hit it right there. Works a lot on third down. Big third and short route. What's your next play? You got more, right?


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[Assistant] This is, this one right here was next level because the challenge to all of this is when you get that, that receiver that steps up on you and then shakes is very tough. But Denzel sits in there, which is something that Richard Scherver used to tell you, you got to sit in there on that route and understand, don't let them threaten you.


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[Assistant] If they're not threatening you and getting outside of your frame, you stay inside of that the whole time. Denzel does a great job sitting in there, boom.


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[Assistant] He pivots off and really gets his hand around her to get that PBU. Now don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] The ball could have was thrown a little bit behind, but not going to take nothing away from Denzel. That's next level right there. Alan Robertson, yes, he's not what he used to be, but he's still a pretty productive wide receiver. That is a great play by Denzel. I mean, his acceleration on the ball.


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[Assistant] He is just a, he's a big corner and he uses his size and he plays the ball really well. I would think that longevity wise.


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[Assistant] Jordan Schultz came out and said that Kareem Hunt will be getting snaps in week three. Nice. And my wife wants you guys to know that the People magazine said that Jason Kelce didn't confirm Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift are dating.


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[Assistant] And Jason, Jason Lloyd agrees with me. He says that the pick is, the pick six is on Harrison Bryant. Thank you, Jason. You're a great man. You know football.


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[Assistant] There's a Stephen A. Smith. He has small hands.


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[Assistant] I ain't switching my answer. You're not? I said I'm going, I'm going with the Pittsburgh. Who had the better grade? I don't even know. The higher grade. They both stink.


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[Assistant] But the running game hasn't been up to par in those few years. What have you seen out of the running game this year? Because I think I've seen something that Notre Dame struggles with the run.


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[Assistant] I'm about to say I'm going to be more pumped up. Who is your, who's your X factor for this game offensively for the Buckeyes?


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[Assistant] Did you see, DraftKings posted, not DraftKings. Yes, the .5 yards. Oh my.


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[Assistant] I mean, losing Cam Hayward, first of all, especially going up against the Browns, the Browns have Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] And Cam Hayward has had a great career at stopping the run. So, now you're telling me you're gonna lose your best, one of your best run stoppers? Yeah, that's, that's a big loss for them because now it opens up the pass and the run game.


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[Assistant] With the Steelers, at least they were always good at doing something. Shutting down one of the two. The pass or the run game. Cam Hayward's not in there. TJ White might struggle a little bit. Obviously he's going up against DeWine Jones. We'll see what big Thanos can do. Go Bucks. Uhm, but.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that one scares me a lot for them. As far as the offense goes, Deontay Johnson, he, although last year he didn't score, he went the whole season and didn't score any touchdowns, but he still was very productive as winning one-on-ones and getting them down the field. He just didn't get scored in the red zone.


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[Assistant] So Kenny Pickett will struggle a little bit because that's his guy. You know, that's a guy that I can count on. George Pickett makes the big plays. He makes the fancy one hand catches and the big time catches. But to get down the field, if the game is on the line, I know that Deontay Johnson is the guy that I'm going to be looking for because he wins.


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[Assistant] For Pittsburgh, it's a good thing for the Browns for me too. Another division game to go up.


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[Assistant] 2-0 in the division is hard to do, especially in this division. They got a chance to do something special. Be 2-0 in the conference would even be...


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[Assistant] It made something called adjustments. Yeaah. And the players came out in the second half and handled it unbelievably. It was, it was like a whole new game plan when they came out in the second half. We didn't see that offensively or defensively last year. Especially defensively. So I, I give them credit for doing that. Kevin Stefanski is still a young head coach. He's still learning.


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[Assistant] And last year he had to go through it. This team went through it. And now they're a better team because of them.


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[Assistant] Cam, do you think that the weather elements is the reason why that, that offense was like that? And if, if it wasn't for the weather, did you see enough, you know, from just schematically and players that was open and some of the missed throws, do you think that that is enough to say that this is going to be a good offense?


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[Assistant] Cam, when you seen this Pittsburgh and San Francisco score, I don't know if you got a chance to go back and watch it, but what do you think was the downfall in that game to lead to San Francisco being so dominant against Pittsburgh? And I think it was in Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] I said it last year. Something is wrong with this guy. You know what it is? Brian Dayball is gone.


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[Assistant] I said this in May or June. I said, listen, I'm, uh, I sound crazy, but I'm out on Josh Allen right now. So you're with me then? Yea, because. You're with him on carts and wins? No, that's ridiculous. That's crazy. That's ridiculous. But, what I'm saying is, for him, he needs help.


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[Assistant] He just, he gotta take the, what, Patty Mahomes had to learn this and Tampa Bay did it, when they did that two high safety thing and took away the deep ball and Patty Mahomes.


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[Assistant] Martin Emerson or Grant Dale Pitt is my two guesses.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, I'm about to say, I'm about to say, I know a dude, I know a dude at Ohio State that was the best pass blocker I've ever seen in my life. Who? His name is Ezekiel Elliott. Although he's not, he never lost.


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[Assistant] The one game that I played, the Oakland versus San Fran game, I did everything 100% correct and I graded somewhere in the 60s and I think that's absurd. That was absurd that I graded.


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[Assistant] I will say, you know, the thing, when I, the only thing that I kinda, was a little alarming to me, but it's not nothing to be big, worried about, is that they did, when he came into the game, they did try to run the ball to the right a number of times, and there really wasn't no push from that offensive line. Well yea, and that's a great point.


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[Assistant] Wow. I did notice him in the run cause he's so big and I'm like, if he's that big why can't they, they should be able to just run to his side.


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[Assistant] Are you insane? Are you insane you waiting that they should give him his 16 million next year?


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[Assistant] Well, I told y'all coming into this season, he was the guy that I was worried about, not worried about, but I wanted to see, cause it's a contract year, and when you think about Jim Swartz with the Eagles, who did he have? Malcolm Jenkins. Malcolm Jenkins was with best safety he's ever coached, he would tell you.


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[Assistant] So I said if that's the case, Dale Pitt has to be that for the Browns. He has to be able to blitz, he has to be able to cover. And it's not just tight ends. You gotta be able to cover wide receivers.


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[Assistant] Dale Pitt, you keep, you keep playing like this, you better go in there, you talk to Andrew Berry, you put a suit on and you tell him you want that high pay. Easy to get paid.


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[Assistant] I just learned the nipple position last year. He's still getting accustomed to it and he was still making plays. He had a nice PBU that I loved. I was like, that was great. So he's getting accustomed to it.


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[Assistant] I said the same thing. Mary Kay, obviously Jack Conklin went down. What's the feeling with DeWine Jones going in at tackle and just the tackle situation period?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, you know, last week we didn't get to see a key acquisition from the Cleveland Browns and Juan Thornhill. Do you know the status of him if he will be able to play this week against Pittsburgh?


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[Assistant] So we can stop this. Jerome Four. We didn't get a chance to see him in the preseason. Obviously he comes out there in the regular season game, has a little fumble, but for the most part, how did you like his game?


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[Assistant] Okay, and then another guy whose, whose name I don't even think I called one time or if he did, I missed it. David Najoku, they paid him top five tight end money. Obviously I know the weather was a part of it, but moving forward, do we see more of him? Does he look like that top five tight end this season?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, bold prediction. And I'm putting you on the spot. At the end of this season,


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[Assistant] Martin Emerson, will he be viewed as a CB1?


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[Assistant] Or CB2 of this team, or do you think he continues to be looked at as the third best corner on this team?


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[Assistant] Somebody, didn't somebody fire their cousin? Cause he kept saying... Was it Carolina?


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[Assistant] I thought from a defensive standpoint, the DBs play flawless. That's something that's going to translate because they're going up against.


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[Assistant] The best wide receiver court in the NFL. That's another thing. And they played them lights. I don't care what the weather was. They were in tight coverage right there making plays on the ball. How hard is that to do? Car. Again, especially against a guy like Jamar Chase and T Higgins. Man to man. Then you're talking about guys that slip in.


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[Assistant] So that's why to me, I'm like, oh, this defense looks so much better. They weren't confused. It wasn't no coverage bust. And that defense align was everything gets advertised. So that's why to me, I'm like, I'm good with the defense. I think the defense is going to be great.


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[Assistant] We don't celebrate that. And on top of all of that, the best part about it, what made me the happiest, is that, that Jamar Chase that you got, that was his best.


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[Assistant] Because coaches coach, players play. Okay, so the game plan might be, Miles, we want you to play on the right side this whole game and do it that way. But Miles is in the game and he's like, you know what? That center is a weak link.


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[Assistant] You know what, Miles? I trust you. You out there, you know better than me. You feel it better than me.


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[Assistant] Now that's something that nobody thought. Jim Swears probably studied it and was like, I never thought that. We have a Mitch match on the center with Miles there, but now that's a wrinkle in the game.


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[Assistant] Miles said, I said at the beginning of the game, Zedarius got there before me and I'm like...


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[Assistant] If J.R. Willis wanna see another contract, he better win this matchup. This should be, I'm not, since then, since they're thinking, cause Trey Hendrickson is who he is. He's, uh, he's not elite, but he's right up under the elite. So I give you that pass.


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[Assistant] This one right here, Hightower, young guy who's starting to make a little push in this NFL, you should be able to handle this. Like, if you can't handle this, then they need to be on the phone with somebody trying to get a left tackle after this game.


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[Assistant] How much did they pay Jim Swartz to be Dixie?


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[Assistant] Do you think that line stays, real quick? Will it be one and a half? No. I kick off? Higher or lower? What do you think?


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[Assistant] I still think it's the Jets are number one, but. The Browns are up there, and the thing with the Browns is, and this is a good thing, and I saw Rich Eisen, who we talked about a lot of times, his distaste, personally. Rich is coming back around, Richie! He put out a video and said the biggest question heading into the 2023 NFL season.


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[Assistant] Just how good are the Browns? And I said 150,000 views. So there are so many question marks with the Browns in terms of, we think they're good, as Bolloy says, until they prove it we don't know, that you can look at it from 15 different angles and get content out of it. So that's why I think they've been such a predominant story from the end of last season to this season. But I still think the Jets are number one.


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[Assistant] And one more thing that we didn't mention. We're gonna do some predictions for the guys on the bubble.


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[Assistant] For the Browns 53 man roster and what they have to do against Kansas City to ensure they're on the 53 man roster.


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[Assistant] Well lemme, lemme ask you guys this first. And we'll, we'll go with every direction you wanna go. Do we wanna start with...


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[Assistant] The real reason they traded Dobbs, or we want to start with the DTR hype.


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[Assistant] It's all about DTR. It's the reason they traded it. Why? I disagree. Why? I disagree. G, where do you want to start?


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[Assistant] I do believe that Kevin Snansky was telling the truth yesterday at the time of his comments. I agree. Arizona looked at their quarterback situation.


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[Assistant] And said, Colt McCoy is 37 years old. He is so washed.


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[Assistant] We cannot go into a game with him as our starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] Because the other 52 players on the roster know that we're officially punting. Even though their entire season is a tank job to get Caleb Williams next year. I understand that's the context.


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[Assistant] It's not like Josh Dobbs is a short thing to be any good. But Drew Petzig, who was here with Cleveland last year, was tight with Josh Dobbs.


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[Assistant] He's now in Arizona, they have that connection. I believe Arizona then called Andrew Berry in the afternoon and said, hey,


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[Assistant] We can't do this with Cole McCoy. We like Dobbs. We know he's gonna-


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[Assistant] Not win us a bunch of games, but at least our team could feel like we're at least trying to compete this year. We'll give you a 5th round pick in exchange for him in a 7th.


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[Assistant] But it gets your initial investment back on DTR. So I don't think they went out, like, this trade happened because DTR played well in preseason. I don't think DTR...


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[Assistant] But you move up 60 spots in the draft, and once again, the reality is if we're talking about the backup quarterback in the regular season,


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[Assistant] Our chances of playoffs, the Browns' chances of playoffs are done. So this is an insurance policy.


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[Assistant] To give Barry the confidence to do that. And before I pass it off to G, cause I know you wanna talk about your boy D. T.


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[Assistant] Ah, I mentioned a special gift that Butters brought for us, right? Yes. Gee, what are you most known for on this show? Kool-Aid. Gee Bush, I now present you...


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[Assistant] The official DTR Kool-Aid joke. With every flavor of Kool-Aid known to man. We have a whole other packet back there.


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[Assistant] 348 passing yards, two touchdowns, it's QBR according to PFF, or it's PFF grade, excuse me, 81.1. You've been calling for him as QB2 since the Hall of Fame game. So do you feel a little vindicated that the Browns have now officially made the move?


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[Assistant] We're gonna do a topic next week.


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[Assistant] That Deshaun Watson's played six games in a Browns uniform. Yeaah. And in my wildest dreams.


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[Assistant] Would we have a backup quarterback who might be more popular than the starter?


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[Assistant] Amazing. But I just saw no world where a backup quarterback in the Watson regime would be like Jim Sorge. Would just be a guy. The fact that he has a cult following.


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[Assistant] To this point, yes he has. He ain't done nothing wrong. Yea, he's done nothing wrong to make you not love what you've seen from him so far. But to have a guy that's already a cult hero to a guy who's as popular in the city as Drew Bush. He'll be forgotten.


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[Assistant] What do you think about the pre-shows show we did here? Like the week before we were live? Yea. And how much better we got from that first Monday to when we actually launched. And that first Monday we really launched was still a disaster in comparison to where we are now. Reps matter, and I understand.


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[Assistant] sorely. Penn State legend. Keep going.


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[Assistant] But listen, I get, when you say in the grand scheme of things, you are right.


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[Assistant] There's no stats for offensive line, but sacks, interceptions, like Ron Hickman, they lead the league in interceptions in the preseason.


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[Assistant] Two of those were absolute gifts, and then the one he made a phenomenal play on. And I'm not taking anything away from him, but that's not necessarily translatable to actual games. So in that regard, I do agree with you, but I do think there is value to preseason football, even if it's not on the big picture. But you're right, like the guys that we're analyzing here, 99.5% of the time have minimal impact.


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[Assistant] When it comes to actually winning and losing games in crunch time in the NFL. That part I'll give you, but I do disagree that it matters more than you like to say it does.


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[Assistant] I got a story and a question, I'll tell you the story real quick. And G, I know you collected this ball, I'm not sure if you can, but, remember like, pick up basketball? There was always that one dude in pick up who was nasty.


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[Assistant] Dude did not know how to set a screen, could not figure out how to defense, was literally unplayable in an actual basketball game, but was maybe the best player in just random pick up.


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[Assistant] It's just, you know, pops up. Okay, fair enough, yeaah. In football, I'm sure it's the same way. They're due to, in camps, look phenomenal, when the lights are on, you actually gotta play, kinda shrink. And in preseason games, at least for the guys who are trying to vie for a roster spot,


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[Assistant] You can see, hey, you may do stuff in practice, but when the game's actually going, and there's referees calling real penalties, and there's not situations where you're doing X, Y, or Z, you gotta just go make a play.


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[Assistant] In the grand scheme of things, you're 5% bright compared to a real NFL game.


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[Assistant] But that's three games he's throwing more pass than anyone in preseason. Yeaah. To me he's just shown...


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[Assistant] He's a baller. Like, it may not translate, you're right. It may not translate when he's playing the Ravens defense or the Steelers defense on Monday Night Football. But the dude looks like a player and we don't see enough in practice to know.


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[Assistant] Did not play great in the preseason. I'm looking at stats. Extremely mediocre. No one went into last season in San Francisco saying


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[Assistant] That's $6,000,000 for your defensive line, your offensive line, your receivers.


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[Assistant] That's the step. Most quarterbacks miss two games a year. If you average out the games played, starting quarterbacks, start the season, end, most quarterbacks miss a game or two.


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[Assistant] We saw Brissette come in on 4th down against the Texans last year. Do not take Deshaun Watson off the field under any circumstances. That would be a terrible decision. I got Purdy's preseason stats last year, just for context. He played all three games, played pretty


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[Assistant] Pretty sniffing him out. In three games he threw for 346 yards, one touchdown, one interception, 59% completion percentage. He was very mediocre against the third string guys he was going against, so.


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[Assistant] Well, but you're not paying DTR anything for four years, so you actually can have those. I don't even want to start it. Yeah, it's, it goes back. Shaw Watson becomes Trey Lads.


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[Assistant] And I like Hickman. Hickman's played very well. This is not a knock on priest. You're just asking us, hey, you gotta cut one of these guys, and of those three, I think the ceiling is the lowest on Hickman.


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[Assistant] And I also think it's a position of the least value to the brown. So to me, it's pretty easy just based on those two components.


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[Assistant] They haven't named the quarterback yet. They don't have a quarterback. I'm excited to watch Marvin Harrison Jr. play because he's that good. Yeaah. He's that good. How could you not have a quarterback? They have two five-stars battling it out.


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[Assistant] It's Charbonneau. Uh, from UCLA. He was DTR's backfield mate. There you go. I liked him a little bit. So greatness rubbed off on him.


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[Assistant] But I think it can be the cherry on top though of an entire performance. The last preseason game.


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[Assistant] I think Bell's a lock, dude. I think Bell's a- and I think Grant makes it.


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[Assistant] Bell's getting reps with the first teams in practice. He's getting first team reps in practice.


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[Assistant] But I'm also reading the tea leaves of what's going on in practice, and I think that has more value than what we see.


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[Assistant] Deuces! I- I- I think he's out. I think he's out, but for the sake of this...


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[Assistant] To lock a spot on the roster. G-Bush, you ready? You got the knees shaking. You got the Kool-Aid.


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[Assistant] Well, that means he has to play first. Yeah. Jakim Grant in out on the bubble. So, uh, you go first, you go first.


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[Assistant] I agree with you, I think Grant is on the bubble, will end up making the team. I don't think he's a lock yet, I do think he makes the team.


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[Assistant] I think what Stefanski said and the way you read it, that's exactly how I read into that. We didn't hear anything for Grant for the first three and a half weeks at training camp. I think that was intentional. I don't think he was hurt. I think they were just like, he was hurt last year coming back and saving him till they absolutely need him.


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[Assistant] Okay, I don't know. If he returns one kick, punt kick, however miss field goal, if he has one decent return, I think he's a lock.


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[Assistant] And if they think, real quick, if they think Grant's a better punt returner than DPJ, which I think the track record shows he is, he's on the team. He's on the team. Plain and simple, he's on the team.


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[Assistant] I think the third running back on opening night is not currently on this roster.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know the extent of his injury. I know Stevanski said he should be back around that time frame. Maybe that's a week after, week two, week three.


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[Assistant] I'm with you 100% for the sake of this. What does Hickman have to do against the Chiefs to surpass Bell?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the reason I think Bell's ahead of Hickman is the special teams aspect. Bell is a solid special teams contributor.


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[Assistant] And Bubba Ventrone said he's been a standout in special teams so far this camp. So I think Hickman has a long way to go before-


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[Assistant] Bubble ends up getting in. I'm Bubble on Diabate. On Bubble gets in. I think if he has another sack and the workforce fump, another play that's not just a tackle.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be hard to look at what he's done in these three preseason games, in practice that we don't see, but I'm assuming it's similar to what he's done in the game. At a position they just don't have a lot of depth in, so.


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[Assistant] But let me ask you this question that Gio wants you to answer next. Diabate skillset at the linebacker position. The other guys they have in that room.


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[Assistant] Do they have anyone in the same mold as him or is he kind of a one of one?


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[Assistant] I think it comes down to him or Mohurst and I'm rolling the dice with Mohurst on this one.


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[Assistant] And, and for the sake of this, just like Schwartz, I think if Elliot has three sacks, one of them on Mahomes, he has a much better shot, but I don't see that happening.


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[Assistant] And who was on the other day that said, I think it was Jason.


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[Assistant] If they could trade Nick Harris, what do you think you'd give back for Harris? Six round pick? Yeah, something like that.


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[Assistant] Right now, let's lose Indianapolis, for example, because their offensive line is weak and said, hey AB, we'll give you a 6 round pick for Nick Harris.


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[Assistant] But any team? Yeah, I would do it. For six? I think I would too.


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[Assistant] Cheap money for cheap money. You know, the Browns have a lot of cash. Maybe a running back that's interesting.


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[Assistant] They keep in another, they're only gonna keep two tight ends? They've got, they've got six tight ends.


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[Assistant] And Akins is such an a- and I like Akins. The dude's been hurt so often in his career.


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[Assistant] Now, Miller Forstall was at Alabama. He made a couple big plays against Washington.


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[Assistant] Real quick, before we move on, we've talked about the preseason game. I know we've got a few minutes real quick, so I just want to say one thing.


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[Assistant] They play the Chiefs tomorrow, 1pm kickoff. Yeah. Mahomes is playing, Watson's playing. I know we did a lot of the Watson stuff yesterday. I want to throw one thing at you and we'll move on, but.


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[Assistant] We talk about things we're looking forward to from Watson, what we want to see from Deshaun and the back and forth with Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] What is your dream scenario for the first two drives of the game? I'll tell you mine then if you guys differentiate by all means. I want Kansas City to win the toss. Receive.


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[Assistant] And march right down the field and score a touchdown. And I want to see how Deshaun Watson comes back out immediately after, after taking a, he didn't take the hit, but the team takes a hit and try to match Mahomes, drive for drive, right from the get go. No ramp up, no warm up.


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[Assistant] Jump into the deep end immediately and try to respond to the best offensive football.


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[Assistant] One of the quarterbacks wears number 33. I just can't, I can't get sold on the court. I understand it, there's some...


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[Assistant] Reason behind it, and I forget the store on top of my head, but Devin Brown is from Utah. You're saying it's inappropriate.


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[Assistant] It's an ugly quarterback number, that's what I'm saying. It was great in basketball, Larry Bird, but as a quarterback under center.


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[Assistant] Photograph is an all time classic, even if it's not the best song ever, that, that- Chorus? All time classic. I couldn't-


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[Assistant] I understand, okay, maybe the 70's not your childhood. The fact you could ever smoke a...


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[Assistant] Argue minutiae depend on where you have them. Here's my thing with Denzel Warden. Gee, you've done such a good job throughout this offseason. I think better than anyone in the city.


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[Assistant] Kind of explaining what Jim Schwartz, philosophy wise, will bring to a defense here in Cleveland. And the one thing you've harped time and time again, and the one thing that I found in my research in watching the Eagles, Titans, all the teams he's coached,


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[Assistant] But he's lightning quick, his lateral ability, in my opinion, and I'm not a cornerback expert, is about as good as anyone in the league, and he's got pretty good hands.


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[Assistant] I think there's even a lot of chances this year for Denzel Ward to be matched up on guys. Press coverage. Jamming dudes in the slot.


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[Assistant] Having slants come his way and take it back the other way for 6. Like if they're getting pressure as quick as I think they can with Zedarius, Miles, Ogbo, all the guys in that defensive line, the ball's gonna be coming out quick to the outside and I think Denzel Ward has a chance to eat this year. And that's why I think in hindsight, he is probably a slot or two too low for me.


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[Assistant] I said top 2-3 cornerback yesterday with Denzel Ward. You're right, that's probably an exaggeration. But he has a talent to be in that top 5-ish conversation and this system is going to let him flourish with what he does best as opposed to how Joe Woods did it.


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[Assistant] And with Denzel Ward in this offense, NG, you play defense at a high level, you know this.


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[Assistant] There's a chance that they generate pressure at an elite rate in the terms of the NFL.


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[Assistant] With just the front four guys. And if Ward is the cornerback we think he can be, that shuts down half the field. And when you're an offensive coordinator trying to


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[Assistant] Stop that kind of pressure, have quick throws, and you're really working with half a field, you become very predictable. What's the easiest thing to stop in the NFL?


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[Assistant] Predictable offense. And that's how I think the Browns reach whatever the peak is for this defense, whether it's top 2, 3, 10, whatever it is.


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[Assistant] That is the form of them reaching their peak potential as Denzel Ward being absolutely locked down on one half of the field.


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[Assistant] Generating pressure with four and letting Newsome and Emerson and the guys on the other side just don't let anything crazy happen.


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[Assistant] There's no excuse. We talk about no excuses for Watson Stefanski. If this defensive front isn't just average, like you said, baseline average.


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[Assistant] Anthony, is this for this year or is this like moving forward in general?


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[Assistant] I think Devante is the best receiver in football outside of Justin Jefferson. Now that's by a smidge, but the way he runs routes, his size, his production.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna keep Adams, I'm gonna trade Jamar Chase, I'm gonna get way more back for Jamar Chase because he's younger than you were the other two, and I'm gonna cut Tyree kill.


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[Assistant] All I'm saying with Devonte Adams is we talk about


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[Assistant] Well, they only played with the Sean Watson for six games last year. Cooper had 1,200 yards with Jacoby Brissette.


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[Assistant] He had like 1400 yards and 14 touchdowns last game. He only played 10 games in Jaredson in the last 6 games.


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[Assistant] He did. Yeah, we're ready for that. Y'all ready? Yeah. This is, once again, with Derek Carr, who's decent, he's not great, and then Jared's did him.


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[Assistant] This is easy for me, yeaah. Netflix, uh, Disney Plus is dead so fast, like D stands for dead in Disney Plus.


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[Assistant] Disney's gone from me, uh, this came down, it's pretty easy to me. Y'all ever heard of Hulu and Chill?


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[Assistant] No. No. It's Netflix and chill. Netflix, you're staying. Yep. For all the obvious reasons. Hulu, I'm the trading block. Peace.


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[Assistant] No, just clean, like, nice white shoes are so clean, man.


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[Assistant] Who's got the two best shoes in here right now, let's be honest. Me and you.


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[Assistant] You have to order extra wide shoes, right? So like, we gotta find a pair of extra wide Jordans. They don't even make it. Do they make extra wide Jordans? Gee Bush knows someone that can get them extra wide Jordans.


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[Assistant] Well, it's just like universally loved. I thought they were alright. I thought they were a little overrated.


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[Assistant] You're gonna make us, this is... That's easy. Yea, it's easy, but we gotta cut the brown. Of course. Yea, Joker's getting cut really fast.


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[Assistant] But is this who we like the most or who would like, who do you want to save the world? Are you talking about power scaling? Yea.


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[Assistant] Taco Bell gives me the run, so that's gone. But it's great though. No, it's not worth it. Their breakfast is awesome. Renting Taco Bell for 20 minutes from the time you eat it to get to the bathroom is not worth it. I'm keeping Wendy's, I'm cutting Taco Bell.


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[Assistant] Wait, real quick. This can make me sound like a noob, but I'm so- What the hell does Taco Bell have for breakfast?


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[Assistant] That's a really tough one, I would agree with you, but there's no wrong answer. If you kept any of those three, I'd be like, that's, you have the rights.


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[Assistant] I think you have to keep Otani, like there's no, Otani's the best physical player of all time, like you can't do anything with him.


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[Assistant] He's the most talented baseball player of all time and he's done stuff that we've never seen before. Judge has more of an injury history than Acuna. And he's a lot older. And he's older, so yeaah.


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[Assistant] Lemonaid. Duane Jones is the easy keep. He is by far has the quickest path to playing time and has shown the most potential of any three so far. Now you trade DTR because of this.


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[Assistant] Despite not playing in a regular season game yet, the Browns just got a 60 pick pick swap in exchange for DTR. He's never played a single snap.


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[Assistant] I mean, it saves for Josh Dobbs because they believe in DTR so much. What's the most valuable position in all of sports, G?


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[Assistant] Quarterback. So if you have a decent asset at quarterback, you can flip DTR in a couple years for an even more valuable pick despite the fact you may never start a game for the Cleveland Browns. So that's no knock against Monty Bates. You know me, big Monty Bates fan over here, Craig Porter Jr. What's up my guy? That's our dude. But in this instance, unfortunately, you're cut.


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[Assistant] So what you don't know is Jay's butters actually brought in a whole bag of sugar when I told y'all every pack of Kool-Aid was here.


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[Assistant] Pass him down, we got Kool-Aid cups, and we got, uh, but let's put it in here, just put it in, we got the official Kool-Aid stirrer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, they came in Styrofoam. Butters, you are the king for this. Wow!


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[Assistant] So he texted me yesterday, I'll give you all the behind the scenes stories. So we met Butters at the Greenie card show signing, and he gave me the McNugget keychain. And he texted me yesterday and said I'm gonna be around downtown, is there an address I can drop off something for y'all?


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[Assistant] He, uh, he said, I got some for y'all. So I was like, oh, perfect. You come around where in the morning before the show you can swing by.


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[Assistant] Well, this was sitting here for 30 seconds and I went over to tell G7 and I almost knocked it off already. So I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] So, before you go G, cause I know Anthony wants to bring this up, so I'm just gonna bring this right into the conversation.


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[Assistant] I need clicks to prove I can do this. What can get clicks? I'm gonna ask y'all a question.


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[Assistant] Now that he can't pitch, is he affordable to the Cleveland Guardians?


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[Assistant] The angels fumbled the bag on this so bad.


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[Assistant] For the last four or five years- when did he join the Angels? 2018?


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[Assistant] So I think either 19 or 18. So I think 5 years. They've had already been the two best players in baseball. Over that stretch.


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[Assistant] Zero. And he's been the best player in baseball for the last decade in totality.


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[Assistant] And I'm all for like, I agree with them going all in. In hindsight, there was a terrible move that should have sold, should have sold Otani, recouped all the assets. Right.


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[Assistant] They're- I think they trade trout now. I think they have tradie trout.


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[Assistant] So real quick, because I know we got James in one sec. Let's just play a game. Oh, we got James down? Yea, we'll wrap this up with this question.


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[Assistant] Give me the prediction right now. Where's the tiny sign and for how much money?


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[Assistant] Wait, James, yeah, what's this with Ben? Ben's my guy from Tash-


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[Assistant] Well, James, I know we're on to talk bangles here, and the question that all Cleveland Browns fans want to know right now is, how's Joe Burrow looking before this week 1 matchup?


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[Assistant] James, on Wednesday's show with Tyvis, we did our AFC North kind of preview and rankings, and the conclusion as a set we came to was...


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[Assistant] The Bengals and the Browns, talent wise, probably on the same, right around the same tier. I think both said Cincinnati's a little more talented, G said Cleveland's a little more talented, but Cincinnati, Cleveland, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh was how we have conclusively


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[Assistant] Despite a little variations, arguably the division will probably end up.


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[Assistant] From a Cincinnati perspective, or looking at it from a perspective other than ours.


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[Assistant] How do you see the four teams in the AFC North and how would you project them to finish the season?


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[Assistant] We do gotta set up the Ben Baby vs. James race. We do have to make that happen.


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[Assistant] He did this at A&M, he was the best journalist on the A&M beat and the most


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[Assistant] What's up, guys? It is a beautiful Thursday. The week has flown by. That's what happens when you win on Monday. The rest of the week flies. If you lose on Sunday, or Sunday, excuse me, not Monday. If you lose on Sunday, the week drags. When you win, it flies. That is correct.


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[Assistant] We are back and it is a good time to remind the people that if you have a chance, do us a favor. Check us out on Channel 3 tomorrow at 1230. The last half hour of the show is 30 minutes of never before seen Browns Ravens preview content. You can only find that on Channel 3 WKYC. We have moved up.


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[Assistant] For half an hour a week from the YouTube realm to the linear TV realm and we're in the homes of upwards of 2 million people potentially. So if you're one of those 2 million with cable, turn on channel 3 tomorrow at 12.30.


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[Assistant] Here's the truth, when we showed the graphic that Anthony made, see if you can take the graphic, we showed this upstairs, uh, the suits upstairs were like,


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[Assistant] I think we should superimpose Mike onto the chicken nugget.


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[Assistant] Gee, I got a question for you. You are the... Consummate Browns...


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[Assistant] I saw this yesterday. Seattle has led the league in opposing false starts every year since 2009.


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[Assistant] Guys, we saw a glimpse of it on Sunday. What a Nick Chubbless Brown's offense will look like.


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[Assistant] I have a joke, should I say it? Go ahead. Nah, actually probably not. Don't do it. Yeah, I won't, I won't. Uh, but we saw what an offense with the Sean Watson is the fancy looks like without Nick Chubb in the rotation.


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[Assistant] Do you think anything we've seen from that game or anything in the past


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[Assistant] Gives you confidence that you know what it'll look like moving forward, or do you think what we see on Sunday might be really the first time anyone has actually seen what this offense without Nick Chubb will look like?


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[Assistant] Sean Murphy Bunting, who got called for two penalties in my mind, he gave the deep pass to DPJ, which was a perfect pass. He had an 89 PFF grade. Which, once again, I know we always let, kinda look at PFF grades in a, what are they looking at for us? What's the eye test showing? They graded high, but they're-


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[Assistant] I do have a theory on Watson I want to kind of throw out to you guys. And I mentioned this on Behind the Glass last night. If you haven't checked it out, go check it out. But in Houston, Deshawn never had a running game.


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[Assistant] But there's something about an elite uber competitor when they know


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[Assistant] Put the team on my back. It's on me. And I do think Deshaun at Clemson had a little bit of that.


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[Assistant] It was molded and developed even more in Houston when he was the focal point, he was the guy in the offense. And this is not a knock on Nick Chubb whatsoever, but when he came here.


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[Assistant] I gotta make things happen for this offense because we don't have the best running back in football standing by my side.


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[Assistant] He has retweeted a bunch of happy birthday tweets from fans, from Brown's related accounts. I mean original posts.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't believe any. Interesting. Hold on, let me confirm. At least on Twitter, I'll check Instagram in a sec.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he is. I'm looking through his Twitter. He has not posted anything himself in two and a half weeks, three weeks.


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[Assistant] I got your Instagram stuff real quick if you want. Go ahead. So he posted after the win, he posted a win post with his teammates.


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[Assistant] It was his birthday. A few days later, he posted a couple of birthday posts after week one, right? Yeah. His birthday was the 14th. He posted a video of him working out with his personal trainer. He posted a video from his new, I don't know if it's a podcast or what it is, but it's on locker versus him and Quincy Avery, but a clip from that.


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[Assistant] And then he posted a picture three days ago with pictures from the Titans game saying onto the next.


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[Assistant] On the UCSS YouTube channel that is next Monday after our regular Raven's reaction.


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[Assistant] So guys, I wanted to ask you guys this. The status for Odell Beckham Jr., he's still questionable, has not practiced this week. He's more likely than not, not going to play. Jadavian Clowney will be playing.


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[Assistant] He had some, uh, choice words as he left Cleveland last year. That relationship did not end on the highest of notes. He is a guy though who has stepped up and played his best games when he's motivated.


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[Assistant] Feel like he'll be motivated on Sunday. You guys worried about any revenge game factor for Mr. Jadavian Clowney come Sunday?


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[Assistant] And to back up both points, Darius Smith actually called himself a mercenary this offseason. He wanted out of Minnesota because they weren't going to be able to pay him what he wanted. And he said he wanted a chance to excel on a great defense. We get one more contract. He said, I'm a mercenary in this business.


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[Assistant] I was checking some reaction from the Tennessee side.


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[Assistant] To the game last Sunday. And this is a quote from a Nashville newspaper.


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[Assistant] The Titans offense was that of an FCS team playing at Georgia on Sunday. It badly needs left guard Peter Skoronsky back. The Titans might need to do something about left tackle Andre Dillard as well. Although...


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[Assistant] See if you can find it. I will and we have a perfect guest coming in where I can dip out for one second and get into it but before we bring Aditi in.


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[Assistant] Guys, we have a post game show every two minute warning. 17 weeks of the season. G. Bush, Earl, myself, reaction, celebration, therapy, whatever you need. We got it for you. It starts at the two minute warning. That continues this week after the Browns Ravens game. And joining us now, the one, the only Aditi Kinkawala.


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[Assistant] Who you gonna call? It's not Ghostbusters. It's, you take your phone out, you go on Safari, you're actually not making a phone call, you're making a Google search for JaceMedical.com. That is J-A-S-E.


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[Assistant] It says, if you did not receive an example of these antibiotics, here's your read. Why would they just send me-


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[Assistant] Once again, a reminder, we have our channel 3 logo, our channel 3 graphic, and as soon as Anthony sent that to the people upstairs, they suggested putting Mike's face on the chicken nugget, my face, and I said no, that's a terrible idea.


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[Assistant] I did, yeaah, that was weird. Uh, so Anthony just, they said, well, we'd like to see it. So this is what Anthony whipped up as, uh, the mock, and this is, we shut this down so fast.


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[Assistant] We're gonna not do that because I'm not quite sure what we have legal rights to on Tagboard at all anymore. So I'm just not gonna even get into that.


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[Assistant] Well, we got five minutes before our next guest joins us, so do you guys want to start Fence Riders? Do we want to just filibuster for a few minutes here? Cause I have a couple, I got a couple things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna, let's, let's save Fence Riders. Okay. Because it's gonna be weird if we start, we get one or two in and then we stop. But I did have a, uh, a different question that we may touch later, we may not, but.


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[Assistant] When you look at this, Brown's-Raymond's matchup on Sunday.


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[Assistant] It is in Cleveland. The Browns start the season with four to five home games. I know there's the bye week in between this game and.


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[Assistant] But that's still, that means we're on the road a lot from here on out.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say how important it is to make sure you get this particular one because it's at home.


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[Assistant] I was asking more in the big picture, when they start four to five. Not even looking at San Francisco, but.


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[Assistant] They lost to Tennessee, I mean they lost to Pittsburgh, so they beat Tennessee.


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[Assistant] By the way, you're a home. So I guess the question is how advantageous is it for the start of the season that they've had these four consecutive.


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[Assistant] You guys asked earlier how much Shelby Harris was playing. So Tomlinson so far through three games is playing 61% of snaps at defensive tackle. I would expect that. Elliot Harris and Moe Hurst are all within two percentage points of each other from 49, 41% to 39%.


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[Assistant] And with that, speaking of Brown's Ravens, let's bring in our next guest. He covers the Ravens for the Athletic. I am going to attempt to pronounce his name, his last name, and I hope I do it right. Jeff Zerbeck? Jeff, how close was I?


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. Uh, we're gonna fly through these real quick. First one is for UG. Uh, Skilly says he bought a white Kool-Aid mafia hoodie.


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[Assistant] But he got a notice two weeks later that you don't offer it. Is the white one ever coming back?


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[Assistant] Uh, it's the color I want and it's still showing online. Do you know if that's coming or what's happening with that?


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[Assistant] Uh, food recommendations in the city, everyone give one real real quick. Food recommendation, first time in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna do a couple fence riders in overtime now, cause we didn't get time to do them today. We'll save the rest for tomorrow on the TV version of UCSS, but we gotta talk about Terry Francona, his final farewell to the Cleveland fan base yesterday. Jay, did you go to the game?


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[Assistant] They're giving up on these guys already? Right. Do you know what the most baffling stat when I look at the Guardians offensive numbers are this year?


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[Assistant] Jose Ramirez played in 153 games. Right. He has 600 played appearances. He's hitting 280 and his 80 RBI's.


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[Assistant] Ain't nobody on the, on the ball. Nobody on the ball. It is hard to believe that he's played 153 games. The dude's an RBI machine. He's, he's hit that's 170 hits.


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[Assistant] But no, it's not a great season. Look at Josh Naylor. Naylor has 97 RBIs and 118 games.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure about, I'm not sure about Najee Harris, honestly. I'll be, I'll be honest about him. I know Jalen Warren is a dog. Y'all should be watching out for him because I know he's a dog.


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[Assistant] I think that, I think that Kenny will be able to find some targets to like Calvin Austin and hopefully that will open up some George Pickens. We also forgot about the best tight end in the league, the next Travis Kelsey, Pat Fryer. Wow, man.


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[Assistant] Yes. You know, it was funny yesterday, the Bengals pulled the plug with six minutes left and took Borough out. And after the Jets game last year, Kevin's like, no, Deshaun, go back out there. You're still out there. We ain't sitting on it yet.


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[Assistant] Now this is the difference because Miles dropped back a couple times last year and he was complaining about it. You remember that? He's like, I don't know what the hell I was doing back there.


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[Assistant] But, he's in a system now that you clearly, so far, he loves. I told you guys this summer, the reason Jim Schwartz was here was to do, because it was the best system for Miles Garrett. They felt like Jim's system would, uh, exacerbate Miles' talents better than Brian Flores', and that's why Jim Schwartz cast the job.


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[Assistant] Can they generate consistent pressure on the quarterback every week? Yes. That's the key, right? Do they have three defensive backs? Do they have three cornerbacks who can play man coverage? Yes. Are they gonna get beat? Yeah, of course they're gonna get beat.


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[Assistant] For the most part, over the course of a season, can they consistently play at a high level? Yes. So yeaah, I think that the, sort of what Gene was saying, that the effort level is there, if the effort level is there, the talent is there, the scheme certainly seems to be there, they're not going to have the same result every week.


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[Assistant] But absolutely, I think this front four, and with some of these blitz schemes, we were seeing some different types of, I won't call them exotic blitzes yesterday, but they were mixing it up. Right. And you weren't exactly sure where it was coming from. Yea, there was nothing exotic to that, really. No, no, no.


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[Assistant] It wasn't just us, it was the players. The players were telling me, why can't we change things? Like, what we're doing isn't working, so change something. And nothing ever changed.


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[Assistant] Real quick, I retweeted this morning, it's the most comprehensive...


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[Assistant] I don't want to put too much credit on this, but I think it's worth acknowledging Alex van Pelt has intimate knowledge of the Bengals. He came from Cincinnati, so I think he has a pretty good understanding and feel of how they do things.


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[Assistant] I believe he was, yeaah, at least for a little while. So now does that, when year does that killer get to Cincinnati?


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[Assistant] So I think he has a little bit of knowledge, and again, that doesn't explain all of this. I think it... No, because the real dominance has been defense. Yeaah, I think it pulls back the curtain a little bit on what they like to do. Well, it would explain, you know... Oh, I see what you're saying, yeaah. But, that's not the whole exp...


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[Assistant] Let's give credit, let's not give Alex Van Pelt all the credit for that. But I do think it's just a little morsel to add into this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but, but I mean, otherwise it's, you know, it could just be one of these strange anomalies that there really is no great explanation for because in the grand scheme of things, it is still a small sample size. It's getting bigger and it keeps happening. But you know, when you talk about,


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[Assistant] a number of games in some as compared to eight games


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[Assistant] There is no great explanation for it other than I think it goes back to what Bull, you were saying, at least with this version, the Browns now have three great cover corners to match up with their three great receivers.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I was kind of poking around on the whole Dewan thing after the game.


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[Assistant] I don't want to poo-poo a win, like it's a win and everything else, but I think this tackle thing is going to become a real problem.


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[Assistant] And I've even said like, well like, Brian Baldinger just raves about this guy and the PFF grades. And I get eye rolls like, okay, well they don't know what we're trying to do here.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we'll start there. I think the whole key, I don't know if you have it or not, the whole key to the touchdown run late in the first half, they're at the 2nd and 10th from the 13th.


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[Assistant] And Deshaun cans the play, checks into a run, and scores the touchdown and everyone celebrates. Didn't they have trips to the right? Trips right. Yeaah. So the key to the whole play though was man coverage on the left. It was Amari Cooper manned up on the left side.


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[Assistant] Bengals are showing blitz, so they bring two linebackers to the line of scrimmage, and, uh, and they had trips right, so Deshaun cans the play, motions Jerome forward to the right. The whole key to it though really was the Wyatt Teller block.


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[Assistant] And you'll see it on the replay. Wyatt Teller had chips. I think it was Trey Hendrickson. Can we take that full tag board? I don't know that he gets there last year.


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[Assistant] I don't evaluate guards, like that's not what I do, but from everything I've been told, he's one of the best pulling guards in the NFL. He's a mauler at run blocking and you marry the two together and here he comes there. He gets just enough of a chip in to spring Deshaun on that play. Now the, the, the Browns and Kevin kind of touched on this at the podium. Kevin and AVP put this play in Saturday morning.


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[Assistant] As a last minute add to the game plan, they were waiting for this particular look.


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[Assistant] They were going to bring pressure from the middle and the Browns weren't exactly sure where the pressure was going to come from, but it didn't matter because they had the numbers to match it.


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[Assistant] So they were waiting that whole drive, they felt that whole drive like the Bengals were gonna give them that look. And when they finally got that look, they got it just in time. And this is how big of a play that was. Because there's 13 seconds left and the Browns had to burn their last time out.


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[Assistant] Uh, like two plays before that. So they're out of timeouts. If Wyatt doesn't get to that block or if Deshaun gets stopped short, they gotta clock it and they're probably kicking a field goal.


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[Assistant] Now they end up winning 24-3, but that, in the moment, you're right. That felt like a huge play. It's a big difference going into the half 6-0 or 10-0. And to call, it was a gutsy call because you're out of timeouts. And if he doesn't make it, you're settling for 3.


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[Assistant] It's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable coming off the six games he had last year to struggle the way he did yesterday throwing the ball. It's very uncomfortable. But you take the win every time because you still have 16 more games in front.


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[Assistant] I want to go back to that Saints game in one minute, but here's the thing that's weird about it.


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[Assistant] We've seen much heavier rain than that. It was like a steady, it's heavier than a mist, but it wasn't pouring. But everything was wet the whole day. But I wonder, and I don't know this, but I just wonder if the fact that neither team expected it is why it had such a big impact. Possibly. Because the game plans for both sides were for a clear day. Nobody was expecting it to rain.


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[Assistant] Kevin basically acknowledged that they had to alter the game plan because of the rain. They came in expecting this and they got that. Now does that explain 154 and 82? Not entirely, but I think it was a little bit of a factor in it. Just the fact that they weren't expecting it, therefore the playbook was not set for those conditions.


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[Assistant] I want to go back to the Saints game that you mentioned last year.


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[Assistant] If, there's all kinds of analytics out there and advanced stats and everything else. One of them that I find interesting is ADOT, Average Steps of Target. And it's telling you how far down the field they're trying to drive the ball. Average Steps of Target is how far does the ball travel through the air. So it's not a dump and run, you don't get the edge yards. And last year everything was short. Everything was short.


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[Assistant] His, his a dot yesterday in the first half was over 12 yards a pass, which is, I mean, they're driving the ball down the field. They're trying, they're trying to find chunk.


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[Assistant] Even at 10-9, it was higher than any of his six games last year. Oh, that's a good sign. But, here's the interesting part. His 8 out yesterday was 10-9. In the Saints game, it was 10-8.


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[Assistant] So that tells you, it doesn't matter the conditions. Kevin don't care if it's rain, sleet, blizzard, it don't matter. They are going to throw the ball down the field in the snow and the rain.


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[Assistant] We, we, we were playing the game like it was September 10th. And I was asking people after the season about that game, and it was, if, if David Njoku catches the ball in the end zone that hits him right here, what's the conversation like after that game is, even in those conditions, Deshaun leads them to victory. And all he had to do was catch the ball and hit him right there.


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[Assistant] I gotta tell you, I called Mike on my, when I was leaving the stadium last night, I called Mike and the Cowboys Giants game had just started. And obviously he's a big Giants fan and I'm like in the middle of a sentence, he goes, Oh, that's you, your mother.


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[Assistant] I gotta ask you about that. I don't know if I was texting the right list or not.


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[Assistant] Why not? I don't know if that's realistic. I think if you're counting on your run game and your defense, you're the Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] I don't think that was bulletin board material. I really don't. Like, elves. Well, Cleveland is Cleveland was. Yeah. Probably. The elves. Players don't care about the elves.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't, I'm not a believer in teams win or lose and they get extra motivation like with what you're being paid and what's at stake in these 17 games is all you have. You shouldn't need somebody saying Cleveland is Cleveland.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, Deshaun was on the field yesterday because of that Jets game. When the Bengals pulled the plug with six minutes left and Burrows out of the game and Kevin told Deshaun, get back in there. He was thinking back to New York last year. I'm telling you, that's why he was on, he was still in that game. We are salting this thing away boys. We are not taking any chances.


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[Assistant] I'd rather that than your top cornerback go down in a preseason game, boys. No, you'd rather lose your quarterback.


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[Assistant] That was like a playoff game. That felt like a playoff win.


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[Assistant] Baker and all that and you felt like you finally had the guy and it was a national game, nighttime. That was a much different energy than yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yesterday felt a lot different than Carolina to me. Yesterday was, I mean Carolina you felt like you stole one. Carolina you felt like you stole one. And it was more relief. It was just relief that you beat Baker.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, I was on the phone with Mike for about 10, 15 minutes yesterday. I got yelled at more than I got yelled at by my wife in those 10 or 15 minutes. His wife yelled at him a lot.


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[Assistant] You know, I've asked about four or five players that in over the last couple weeks, they're all like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Well said. Right? Does anybody disagree with that? I wrote about it this morning. Kevin and Deshawn are tethered to each other, and each one needs the other. Kevin is counting on Deshawn to keep his job, and Deshawn needs Kevin to get back to where he was.


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[Assistant] I was at practice yesterday, Zach Jackson and I watched the beginning of the opening stretch and he had some sort of wrap on his calf.


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[Assistant] I would be surprised if we didn't play, but maybe it's, maybe it's more serious than...


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[Assistant] It's the opener. Kansas City, Kansas City, I've said it for weeks. Cincinnati doesn't care about this game nearly as much as Cleveland does.


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[Assistant] Well, which one of you lunatics was saying you'd rather Deshaun play well in a loss?


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[Assistant] That's the game, that's the year I keep going back to. In importance, you're right. This is the most important opener since they came back. Bar none. In terms of fan excitement,


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[Assistant] I don't think it's the most because I remember 2019 coming off Baker's rookie year with Freddy Kitchens as the coach. They were lining up to get in the Muni lot the night before the game. I was out there. I went out there and wrote a story on the line of people and the excitement. I remember it well. Football is back. Oh my God. We finally have a quarterback. Everything is right in the world again. Cleveland.


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[Assistant] For all the people screaming that Cream Hunt didn't give him a cherry slice. Well don't throw dirt on him yet.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, of course he is, but it's also, I mean, they move miles around all the time. Yeaah. Not every play, you don't do every play. Not every play. But, but they move, I mean, that was Jadaven Clowney's big complaint last year, right? Right. That they were giving miles of more favorable matchups. So, it's gonna happen. He's gonna be, they're gonna move him around. Yeaah. They're not gonna leave him on one side.


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[Assistant] He has three really good receivers. I feel more confident that Zell is going to play than Wine, just for the record.


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[Assistant] I think we know who Nick Chubb is. I think we know what Nick Chubb does. I think we know what Njoku is. I don't think this is the biggest season of his career because I think he is who he is. He's had six years in the league. We know what he is.


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[Assistant] My X Factor is Elijah Moore because we don't know what he is in this offense. And I also, I'm going to talk out both sides of my mouth for a minute because I kind of rolled my eyes a little bit. I think Moore's been overhyped at times this preseason.


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[Assistant] But I do concede that he's going to play a pivotal role in what they do. Especially, I think he's that speed factor that they haven't had before. And we're not sure with Marquise Goodwin how much he's actually going to be on the field. How much he's really going to contribute.


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[Assistant] No, he was in the locker room briefly yesterday and I wanted to get over to him and then I couldn't. He was gone by the time I got over to him.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, but we know Elijah Moore is going to be on the field and we know he's got the speed. I think he fits a little bit better. One of the things that the Browns felt like last year with the receiving core.


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[Assistant] Deshawn's a guy, when a play breaks down, he's gonna freelance a little bit and he's gonna try and make something happen and you need receivers who can adjust to that. Right. And they don't really have a guy who could, who could really adjust to that. I think Moore might be able to be that guy.


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[Assistant] Who can break off his route and come back to the ball. Just get open and, and it's a little bit of street ball at that point and just, just get open and make a play.


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[Assistant] And, and I think more has that capability. So for me, X Factor to me is, you're not really sure what you're gonna get. And, and that's... See, I didn't look at the X Factor.


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[Assistant] And then I texted Mikey this morning and said, give me Martin Emerson because I've been on the Emerson train all summer long. I think he's going to have a huge year. I think this is his coming out party.


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[Assistant] In terms of the rest of the league figuring out who this guy is and what he does. And there is still a little bit of question with Denzel whether or not he goes. There's question about Juan Thornhill whether or not he goes. That puts even more pressure to me on, on Martin Emerson with the Bengals receivers. I love his size. I love his length. I love his physical tenacity. The way that he gets up in guys.


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[Assistant] I think this guy was a steal where they took him and I think he's going to be a star in this league. So for me, Martin Emerson is the X Factor.


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[Assistant] And some of his analytics from last year were off the charts. Such as? I'd have to go back and look. I remember looking at the end of last season. Newsom wasn't as bad as we thought he was. And Martin Emerson was even better. But I'll pull him up and look.


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[Assistant] The Browns is the Browns. Well, Cleveland is Cleveland. That's right. And guys, we've been talking about it all off season. Like that's, that's the view of from the league, from the entire league. It don't matter how much talent the Browns have until they actually do it on the field. No one's going to take them seriously. The Browns haven't finished ahead of the Steelers in the standings since 1989.


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[Assistant] Wait, wait, wait, wait. That was my reaction. That can't be true. Well, Zach Jackson told me that. The Browns have not fi- and I know we're playing the- or the, the Browns are playing the Bengals. We're talking about the Bengals, not the Steelers. The Browns haven't finished ahead of the Steelers in the standings since 1989.


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[Assistant] When we get to the next one. I picked Jerome Ford as the guy we're not talking much about and it's kind of an off the radar pick.