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[Assistant] This is, so, so some of you might remember back in, uh, back in Bahrain, wasn't it? When we were sat by the pool and you encouraged people to write into our podcast, get their pen out. And in this case, uh, Chris H has very kindly sent this in from Laverton in Western Australia. Marvellous place.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it really is remote and he goes on to say, thanks for letting us enjoy F1 in remote locations. I Googled it. It is 10 hours from Perth in Western Australia. It is miles. That's just next door.


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[Assistant] It is absolutely miles from anywhere. Uhm, but that was, that was such a lovely thing to receive, Chris. So thank you very much. Uhm, can I just say- We would, we would write back, but yeah.


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[Assistant] All across Sky Sports F1, uh, but yeaah, we've got a weekend off, so, uh, any good plans, Crofty, what you doing?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you know, definitely I think it is like Craig said there, we, we didn't imagine when we were leaving in 2019, it would be such a gap before we came back again. And I think, you know, simple things, you know, that Craig has said there.


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[Assistant] The sellout crowd, you know, I don't remember Tyna in the past being a sellout crowd, but having, you know, Joe Guan Yu on the, on the, ehm, driver listing has got really gonna help that.


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[Assistant] Imagine having, you know, such a break in a sport. Five years is a long time not to be anywhere. They must be very excited to have it back.


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[Assistant] It's, it's difficult, you know, as Craig alluded to there, setting up a new F1 team is a massive challenge, let alone setting up a new engine team, so it doesn't surprise me that they want to do that in steps.


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[Assistant] To bring in people, you know, if I think of my own thing to say, right, you've got a clean slate on strategy, you can do whatever you want to, build a team around you. That is hard. It's hard to set it up, get the software in place, get the historic data, get all of the things that you


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[Assistant] A team works on, you know, we work a lot on historic data. That's not readily available to those of us that, you know, we're just kicking around in the sidelines. So it's just, it's very difficult. And then like you say, to recruit the right people in the team below you with no.


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[Assistant] Definitive end game, it's a big risk, you know, and maybe someone in a senior position can take that risk, but a lot of the junior people won't be in the safe position of being fit to take any of those risks. So it will feel like a big risk.


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[Assistant] It is very hard to get everything built around, you know, this.


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[Assistant] The first physical step of that. That's the first sign of a real intent.


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[Assistant] You know, not the first time, but it's a physical sign on the ground in Stilverstone for the people that they're trying to recruit that they are serious. This is not going away.


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[Assistant] And that will encourage people to get behind the project and devote, you know, devote their time to the project.


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[Assistant] Well, I think from an Aston Martin side, that'll continue, that'll continue to develop the car. They know.


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[Assistant] Alonzo was a driver. They've got big changes coming in 26 remember because you're going back to the Honda engine and they're doing their own gearbox design. So there are two big changes to Aston Martin as a team.


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[Assistant] That are going to need driver input and development to make that work together as a car when it hits the road in 2026. So there's positive in that.


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[Assistant] You know, if we think that Alonzo's gonna be, you know,


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[Assistant] Then I, my belief is when you see the likes of Oliver Behrman, Liam Lawson, these guys doing really good things in cars, really strong things in cars, then


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[Assistant] Oh, should you be invested in the future? Now, arguably Alonzo is performing at such a high level that maybe that's not true, but there is a limit to that road.


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[Assistant] And so I think, you know, the team were so positive when he joined and the feedback from him was, you know, really, really good. So I think that will have developed that team to get it hit the ground running in 2026 and they have to get over the development errors that they made last year. You know, that car.


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[Assistant] Got slower through the year before returning to form at the end of the year. So they've got to figure out where their development profile is sort of went wrong there. So consistency from that is not a bad thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think Japan was a strong red ball track, the high speed in particular. And I think, you know, it's been a long time since we went to China. I think there was.


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[Assistant] It's a massive statistic about the number of people that currently watching F1 that won't ever have watched the Chinese Grand Prix, but it's a lot of low speed corners and then.


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[Assistant] The margin wasn't what it had been in previous years in qualifying and it wasn't what it had been in recent. So I think that we are getting to a point where the field is.


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[Assistant] Showing positive signs and calm this very different track, you know, advance those signs even further.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly, and, you know, to fill in a little bit of what happens is...


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[Assistant] You know, if we get, if we miss it a year with a track or if we go to somewhere like Melbourne or Japan that we've not been to, or that we were like last year,


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[Assistant] We sort of iterate the numbers from last year based on what we've seen so far this year, so we tweak tyre models a bit, we tweak PS a bit, we tweak the pit loss a bit, all these things of,


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[Assistant] Little iterations of, you know, tweaks from year to year. And that's how we, we start the weekend with, you know, a revised, how the strategy is going to look, how the car is going to look, how the setup is going to look, so many things. You know, what's right downforce level, so many questions we go into a race weekend with.


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[Assistant] And if you miss a year, then you go to the year before and yes, there's more error, but it's not too bad. You know, generally you can go, you're going back to the same.


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[Assistant] You know, in this case, if you went back two years, you go back to the same type of cars, the same aero regs, same tire compounds, you know, the same sort of like, ehm, bigger diameter wheels that we have now also. So you're making a bigger step, but not ridiculous. To go back to 2019 is huge. You know, simple things like,


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[Assistant] I was looking at some of the notes from 2019. In 2019 when we were here, we were testing the VSC because we didn't have a VSC. Wow. And you know, we've got different aero platforms now, very different cars.


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[Assistant] Car setup, simulators that the drivers have done in advance, you know, which springs, dampers, you know, all the things that you put in the car before it gets to the track or you're thinking about putting it in the car before it gets to the track. And interestingly reading, you know, one of the press releases, Mercedes press release, they're saying that, which I forgot to consider,


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[Assistant] The China's built in quite soft land, so the track moves. We've got a similar problem at Austin actually. The track moves a little bit over time. Now year on year you can sort of progress that, but.


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[Assistant] We don't know what's happened to this track since 2019. We don't know if it's been resurfaced. When you look at, uhm, I always look at the circuit website, see how much is used, you know, see what GT is happening or whatever, whatever is happening.


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[Assistant] And you know, it's a very underused circuit, definitely in the last few years. So it's, it's in an unknown condition.


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[Assistant] We're getting there and we just, we just don't know. And that's going to be a big, big challenge for the team. On a normal weekend, that would be a challenge for teams. On a sprint weekend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and like you will tend to know what the track was like before in terms of roughness.


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[Assistant] Like, you won't believe the extremes that teams go down this. They'll be trying to figure out, you know, what supplier, manufacturer,


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[Assistant] Come up with the tarmac for that track because they'll have a certain grade that they tend to use or a certain roughness that it's been before. You know, the other thing, like I say, would be the bumps. Have they got rid of any of the bumps? Are the bumps worse? You know, have they managed to level them out? What's happening? Because the bumps really affect these aero cars because you're so reliant on that contact between the floor.


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[Assistant] Um, on the track, so there will be a lot going on and it's just going to be your track walk. I'd imagine teams are going early to do a track walk maybe on a Wednesday to get a bit ahead of the game on that one.


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[Assistant] I'll ask you that question. When you think, when you imagine the circuits, do you imagine like what their shapes they represent in your head when you think about it?


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[Assistant] So if you turn at 90 degrees and it's body on skis.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's where I get to. So I'm not sure that's, I'm not sure that's the right way to describe it, but you know, that's the way I remember it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so China, you know, has got two massive straights. Uhm, the one on the start finish straight and the one sort of immediately before that. And a lot of the corners, even though it might not be obvious in the track map, but turn one two, they are


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[Assistant] Very low speed corners, so like 100 kph, so I don't know what that is, 60 mile an hour. So very low speed corners and there's quite a few of those in the track. So you tend to have big straight, big braking zone, another big straight, big braking zone. Right, there's a few corners that are high speed sort of in the sector two region.


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[Assistant] But not a lot. So it's gonna, it's very, very different to the Suzuka we had the week before.


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[Assistant] So, you know, Japan only had really two slow speed corners. Now we've got mainly slow speed corners and a lot of long straights. So it's going to be about straight line speed of the car, you know, much, much more than what it had been previously and how


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[Assistant] You know, the whole idea of the sprint is that you've more competitive sessions. It brings, you know, a competitive session to Friday and that will work. I think one of the.


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[Assistant] Difficulties that we had in, you know, the very first formats of sprints was that we didn't want to have used all the qualifying hires before qualifying.


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[Assistant] I think the current format because in sprint qualifying for the first and second sprint qualifying sessions.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have enough self, so you should have enough self-tires to progress through that. So I think there is, it is a good balance now. I think the other thing that teams were


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[Assistant] Uhm, not resistant to, but I think has and about was at the moment now they can.


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[Assistant] Park Fermi is different across two sessions, so what that means is you can have one setup for sprint qualifying and sprint race, and then if for whatever reason that doesn't work,


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[Assistant] Or you want to make a slight change, you can then change that setup slightly for the main qualifier and the main race.


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[Assistant] In the sprint session, you're only, you're not starting anywhere near the same fuel load that you would be in the main race session. So there will be, teams will have tricks to play there across those two. Obviously weather conditions comes into it as well.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, teams and drivers are going to have to be on top of it straight away and I. So yeaah, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how it goes. I think out of all the sprint sort of formats we have, it does seem the most reasonable, but we'll figure that out as we go.


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[Assistant] So from a team side, that's really good. From our side, you know, it was nice to see the risk of people getting it wrong.


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[Assistant] And, you know, if people go into the weekend struggling a bit with the balance and then are stuck with that for the whole weekend, you know, that can spice things up a little bit. But we are still going to get, you know, like I say, all the unknowns with China.


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[Assistant] And we've not been there in so long. So all of the data, the models that the teams are running.


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[Assistant] Are gonna be a lot less accurate than they would like.


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[Assistant] Although not as bad, I guess, as a new race. To then have only one practice session to sort all of that out. High on low fuel, get the set up right, et cetera, et cetera.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeaah, it's gonna be a big unknown, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So at the moment we have, you know, we're still a few days out, so let's say, but we're forecast rain per Saturday night.


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[Assistant] The big thing is, if we get Ryan for Saturday morning sprint.


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[Assistant] Teams will go into the race with no long run data. So it'll be like what happened last week in China.


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[Assistant] Except, or not in China, in Japan, sorry. So it'll be like what happened in Japan where there's very little long run data, except you don't have last year to go back on either. So it's going to be, it is going to make those long runs a massive, massive unknown going in. And, you know,


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[Assistant] China in the past hasn't been close between a one and a two stop strategy, so back again to like what we had in Japan where it is going to be about reaction, about the driver feedback to what's happening, the driver feedback to tyres, like getting that set up.


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[Assistant] Mercedes were really unhappy with the car and there was a lot of discussion about their simulation.


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[Assistant] Wasn't working correctly. So how they're assimilating the car reacts to certain changes to certain environments. So there's a lot of talks that simulation was wrong. That's not great if you're going into a new race or if you're going into a race with a lot of unknowns. If you are struggling to simulate a race that you've been to.


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[Assistant] Four times in the last four years, then it's not great for one that you've not been to either, unless, you know, two wrongs somehow make a right and you, yes, the setup. In Japan, they seem to be a lot happier from the off with the setup, so maybe they find something there. The other thing is that,


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[Assistant] A lot of circuits recently, they have not been that strong in straight line speed. In my head I had McLaren is not strong in low speed and not strong in straight line.


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[Assistant] Those, you know, if they were struggling to, to get the power down coming out of a corner, that is really going to hurt you during the entire long straight after that. So I think that Mercedes will be apprehensive. They've got one out of three setups, we think so far this year, bang on. And even then they were probably the fourth fastest team. So third or fourth fastest team. That's not great. It's going into a


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[Assistant] I think it will play to Ferrari strengths. I think there's a chance that Ferrari will have closed the gap a little bit to Red Bull and maybe taken a little step away from McLaren. But like I say, I'm struggling to really find the data to back up that thoughts process right now.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that that should be roughly the order and then between Mercedes and Aston, unclear. Uhm, I think there have been circuits where Aston has been stronger in a straight line speed and we know pre-season they said they had worked on their DRS switch, so making sure they had a very strong DRS.


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[Assistant] So that should help them because, you know, the two very, very long straights that we have. So they might have the edge over Mercedes because that's what they've been focusing on.


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[Assistant] So it might change a few of those that will order around a bit.


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[Assistant] But yeah, it's going to be very interesting just because I think it is going to be reaction. It's going to be getting through those sessions. And one of the things I actually really enjoy about a sprint is


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[Assistant] And that means that you can get your ideal setup for that medium, but the driver for SQ3 has to make the difference. You know, it is about the driver making the difference on that soft tire and getting it, getting it right potentially first time. We don't know how well the soft tire is going to last here, so.


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[Assistant] Are you going to risk it and not do more than one lap on that softened SK3? Let's see, but there's a lot to play for.


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[Assistant] I was just going to say, I appreciate, appreciating all everyone's in the UK, obviously, and people do watch Formula One, thankfully, at some horrendous time zones, but that timing works really well for me in the UK. I like the very early morning ones or the very late evening ones because you can sort of do stuff in the middle of your day.


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[Assistant] Yes, I'm going on holiday. I'm going to have some friends. They are, well, one of them in particular, Colin, he won't mind me saying, is a massive F1 fan. So I think even though I'm on holiday, I'd probably still be watching the F1. But yes, hopefully in some near climbs than the disappointing UK we have at the minute.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone, welcome to our big season review podcast. Great to have you with us. And, uh, well, 22 races down, let's see what we all made of it. Joining me for this one is Karine Chantok.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ted Kravitz and Bernie Collins. Hello to all three of you. We've had a slightly weird technical, uh, silliness to start off with. Bernie is only sat a matter of meters away from me, but we're going to communicate in different rooms, such as the way remote recordings work. Um, Karim, start with you. How are you? What's going on?


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[Assistant] Indeed. Less than a hundred days away. Ted, you have dressed up.


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[Assistant] For the podcast, in case people are listening, you are wearing a fantastic shirt.


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[Assistant] Brilliant. You look, you look great. And you've enjoyed teasing me actually, Ted, throughout the season about my loft, my slightly strange loft that I'm in.


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[Assistant] That's a very expensive apartment, yeah. Um, Bernie, we haven't, we haven't, we haven't spoken to you for a while. How have you been? You, you were, I know you, we were just chatting, you were out in Vegas. How have you enjoyed the, the final few races of the season?


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[Assistant] Let's crack on then and, and we're going to try and get a few questions in from you guys at home. We're going to also go through a few categories as well throughout the season, like Ted alluded to. The first one and kind of the only place to start is Max Verstappen and some of the records he's broken, but I want to draw everyone's attention to something that happened this weekend. So he obviously passed a thousand laps led for a Formula One season.


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[Assistant] Now, the record, uh, that he's also beaten as well is that of McLaren. In 1988, he has equaled the amount of laps led by Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna in their McLaren, 1003, which is just a bizarre stat and amazing that he's got the exact same number, but...


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[Assistant] Bernie, I'll come to you on this first. We knew from the press conference afterwards, Max was saying that he deliberately stayed out, he deliberately didn't choose the quickest strategy in order to get more laps.


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[Assistant] In, in the lead, in order to have this record to go over a thousand. As a strategist, have you ever been in a position where you're, you're not choosing the quickest time, but you're trying to break records? It was just ridiculous, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] Karun, you're a, you're a man who knows his Formula One history. When you, when you look at the records that Max has broken this year.


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[Assistant] Just how impressive is what he's achieved from a record statistical point of view?


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[Assistant] Ted, what will you remember most from Max Verstappen's season? When you look back over a glass of red wine or something over Christmas with your turkey, what will you be thinking? What will you be thinking about Max Verstappen's season?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just think it goes to show what, what an amazing season it's been for them and the fact that they're even thinking about that, having the, the space, the headspace, think about that midway through the last race of the season. Right, let's get onto some categories. Uh, I've given you all some homework to do. Uh, hopefully you're going to all score good, good marks and you've all done it. We'll find out. We'll all score well.


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[Assistant] Uh, right, driver of the year, uh, that's not Max Verstappen. I think, I don't want to speak for everyone here, but I think I personally would say that Max Verstappen has been comfortably, in a way, the most superior driver of the year. So let's, let's remove him from the equation and who has impressed us. Bernie, I'll start with you. Who's, who's impressed you?


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[Assistant] Let's come back to, because I know that Ted, you might have put him for another category.


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[Assistant] Go on Karun, take the floor. Fernando Alonso, driver of the year that's not Max Verstappen.


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[Assistant] While we're on things that were said in the press conference, I don't know if anyone else picked up on this question that Mike Crack got asked in the press conference about Fernando Alonso when he was said, you know, is there a desire to extend his contract past 2024?


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[Assistant] Fernando possessors, but I dunno, did anyone, was anyone a bit surprised that, that Mike Crack reacted like that?


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[Assistant] Very good, very good. Uh, let's, let's move on to another category. Uh, underrated driver of the year. And Bernie, I, I'm going to come to you again because I, because I'm sort of intrigued by Alex Albon being your


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[Assistant] What, what, what was our first category? It was Driver of the Year. Driver of the Year that's not an extra step in. So underrated, because presumably underrated would be outperforming the car as well. So I wonder who are you going to go for for this one?


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[Assistant] You never know, uh, you never know. I just, just one more thing on the Liam Lawson idea, because I do think that sparks interesting debate about next year and the fact that obviously Logan Sargent is, as we, as we know, the only unsigned driver for next year. Who knows when that's going to happen across, across the winter, but there are so many rookies, aren't there, waiting for a seat in Formula One.


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[Assistant] We've got Vesti, Pochere, obviously the, the FT champion, Dragovic, the, the previous FT champion. They are, they're ready and primed, aren't they, to go into these seats. And right now, uh, Corrine, I mean, this is just a bad time, isn't it, to be a, a young rookie driver without a seat in Formula One. There just aren't the seats available.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I think, I think Formula One, you know, in a way that football perhaps does have these crazy celebrations. Maybe we need a few more, a few Alan Shearer hands up in the air or something. Who knows? Uh, right. Let's, let's move on. Race of the year. And this is, this is a category just for basically, I kind of put in my notes to you overall whole weekend, Delta.


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[Assistant] So I don't know what everyone had for that. Err, Bernie, I'm stuck with you for each category, but yea, it's your honour.


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[Assistant] Yeah, incredible weekend and obviously the time when Red Bull's run came to an end. Uh, Ted, what did you go for?


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[Assistant] Very entertaining, that's right. It was an entertaining race. Yeah, very good. Just as an aside, does anyone remember the Taylor Swift rumours that were circulating around the pub?


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[Assistant] It really was a br- a brilliant race, uh, in the Netherlands. Right, moving on.


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[Assistant] Qualifying moment of the year. So it could be one lap or one moment in quali. I'm going to switch it around now. Ted, I'm going to get you to kick off. Bernie, you're off the hook.


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[Assistant] Very good. I, I can't believe no one's mentioned Monaco and Verstappen via Alonso. The final sector from Verstappen.


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[Assistant] Spectacle or like an amazing moment of qualifying where it's one driver, then another driver overtakes another, and I think that's, that's when qualifying is at its best, right, when, when each driver's outdoing each other. Okay, very good. Uh, final sort of category I've got is


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[Assistant] What was the feel-good moment of the year? What was the heartwarming, wholesome moment that got you, that got you thinking? Karun, hand up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, lovely. Bernie, what was your feel good moment?


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[Assistant] I thought as well you might mention the Lando hug in Parque Fermé as well between Science and Lando. Obviously Lando worked with Science to keep him within DRS range to negate the threat from behind. I thought that was quite a nice moment. My other moment, which is from this weekend.


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[Assistant] And I don't know how much of it you saw was, was Franz Tost on the grid with all the drivers. The amount of hugs and love for Franz Tost.


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[Assistant] Was extraordinary and just goes to show, I think how highly he's held amongst people in Formula One. And I think, yeah, it's going to be sad to miss him. Did you, sorry, I know I keep banging on about the press conferences, but I was, I was looking at the press conferences this weekend. Did you see him give advice to, to the young, to a young driver who wants to get into Formula One?


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[Assistant] Where he sort of says, deadpan, you know, you just do casting, you just do formula three, you just do formula, you know, very, very funny, very, very good. So I think we'll miss his personality.


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[Assistant] We hope so, we hope so. So look, just before we go, I thought we'd just go, final moment, final word on the season as a whole, what each of you will remember the season for, your overriding feeling. Karun, I'll start with you. What will that be for you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well look, fingers crossed, that's a lovely way to end it. And yeah, thank you very much everyone for listening to the podcast this year. We're going to try and be back for a few ad hoc ones over the winter and over the coming weeks before Christmas. Ted, I can't quite do as good a sign off as you did from your notebook.


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[Assistant] Very good. Uh, yeah. So thank you very much everyone for listening this year. We really appreciate your company and know that there's a, there's a lot of Formula One podcasts out there. I think we launched with a three or four this year. Um, so yeah, we're really grateful for your company and we will be back, uh, in the new year until then. Bye for now.


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[Assistant] How'd it go? How'd it go? Pretty good. Is it the golf thing? We talked about it. He said that he was not prepared to play actual golf, but he's been training every day to beat Charles Barkley. He said there was no breakfast ball. There was no fluffing. He did not expect any of that. He said it's real ass golf out there in Tahoe and he's training every day not to be the worst.


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[Assistant] He said he does want to go back next year. He said next year he's going to bring a caddy. He's actually going to try golf before he gets there and he's going to really go out there and have a day. You think there's any chance I get invited next year to the Tahoe thing?


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[Assistant] What happens if I go out there and win that thing while bonging beers with the people in the boats and slam dunking in the nine and a half foot hoops that are out there? What happens then? What do we do? Barefoot too? I mean, what happens then?


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can do seven beers in one hole and still operate. I don't know if old 33 year old me can, but I do believe I would be able to embrace it. But there are some really good golfers that tennis guy that won. He's an insane golfer. Like, like very, very, Kyle Williams, unbelievable at golf.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, Baumgarner. Did Aaron pick that or does that just kinda happen?


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[Assistant] Well I was about to say, first day here with Kyle Williams, last day here with Eddie George, had to make you feel pretty good. That's what I thought was going to happen, but instead it was the guy from the office and, uh, Aaron Rodgers, which, by the way, I think we got a big fall for Aaron Rodgers coming up. A big what?


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[Assistant] Cam Newton got dropped into a brand new system after 86 days of being unemployed, even missing the zoom calls that they were having in place in lieu of the OTA. So I think hearing that it's going well,


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[Assistant] Is a big deal for Patriots fans and it's a big deal for me knowing that Bill Belichick probably has a brand new weapon that he can kind of toy with and have a good time with and it means that the Patriots are going to be in this thing no matter what anybody says or Lovsky said that he stinks but I think these are not he's thinks that the Patriots are going to stink and not make the playoffs because the Bills and everybody else.


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[Assistant] And they lost a lot of players who opted out and contracts and everything like that. But I think the glowing reviews, even though it's only five days in.


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[Assistant] Are a much bigger deal this year, especially in that situation than other years in the past.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you can see this AJ, but Zito just dropped a breaking news as if it was Dan Urlovsky doesn't think the Patriots will be a playoff team. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] And on NFL Live, Dan Orlovsky will have to answer for this whenever the Patriots go on a run at some point and he has to talk about this. Or maybe he'll just act like it never happened. But I like the fact that Zito is like, no, no, no, let's go ahead and remember this. His hair was fantastic this morning. His take on the Patriots. I just don't know.


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[Assistant] The amount of gutsack it takes to say that the Patriots are going to stink is massive because everything tells you that they're not going to. I mean, everything that Bill Belichick


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniels, Ernie, the culture, the team, the system, it's just everything says that they're gonna be good for as long as they wanna be good. But if you go out there and say they're not gonna be good, and they end up not being good, that has to feel damn good. But if you go out there and say that they're not gonna be good, not gonna make the playoffs, and then they do,


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[Assistant] You're just another chip on the shoulder for every single mass hole that's like, well, countin' us out yet again, ESPN, thanks for that again. And that's just not the way it goes. It's just, it feeds into their narrative so well. Yeah, Trent Dofer.


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[Assistant] It was just, it was the worst mic'd up thing of all time. I was watching it and I was like, why am I watching this? Why am I giving this a view? And maybe that's what they decided to build. It's like, fuck it, we'll put out the worst mic'd up ever that tells us absolutely nothing and it will keep it moving. But I can tell that they are all in.


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[Assistant] On being a good football team. We don't care about what social media gets to see. We don't care, but we're not giving away anything. If McDermott even mentions a football thing, edit it out. We want to be on top of everything. We got the Patriots potentially where we want them to be with a new quarterback. A lot of players opting out. We need nothing to leak out. What I will say from that mic'd up video though, McDermott's hat is


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[Assistant] Next I was a safari hat with a thing that hired, uh, like kind of hung down in the back. It was electric and I was like, okay, I like this guy, but this video stinks. This is terrible content. What's up, Ty?


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[Assistant] The Tampa Bay Q Gronkeneers. A.Q. Shipley signs with the Tampa Bay Q Gronkeneers.


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[Assistant] This was news that was broken by Adam Schefter even though we have known it.


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[Assistant] For some time now, we chose to do the civil thing and right thing and wait for him to have officially signed before we announce it. The insider game is a rough one, we didn't want to get into it. A new center who's been around for now is 12 years.


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[Assistant] What does that do to a team? We like AQ as a human, obviously. He's a hysterical human being. He's been around a long time.


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[Assistant] I even asked him really what the expectations are going in there.


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[Assistant] That's his crew though. Goody, the offensive line coach he's been with since Indy. He was there in Arizona, BA.


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[Assistant] So even if he's not starting, whoever is potentially starting, he knows everything. He could help out wherever.


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[Assistant] I would assume he's gonna play though. That just seems to be what happens with AQ Shipley. He shows up, there isn't a lot of expectation.


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[Assistant] Right into a, a gap if he has to down in the goal line.


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[Assistant] And which would hopefully leave him open. And when you look at him, you don't think the guy could catch, but.


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[Assistant] On contrary, he's got great hands. He's actually a high school Hall of Famer for his basketball career, not even his football career. So good, good, good signing by the Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Q Gronkineers down there. You going to play for him?


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[Assistant] I think he had two other options, if I do recall. I'm not gonna break that news, I'll let him do it, and by the way, he'll probably do it through Schefter anyways.


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[Assistant] Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch. But he had pretty good teams all on the line there and he was, cause he knows that system so well. He knows Bruce's system so so he's there in Pittsburgh, Indy, Arizona, now down in Tampa. I mean he knows the system so so so well.


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[Assistant] He's probably like, ah, this will be a perfect fit for me. Year 12, I'm not sure he's expecting much, but they can make a run now. That's a team. Mike Evans said, hey, we can be an all time offense. I agree with him. I agree with him. They can be. And I think if you see any of the footage that's coming out that we don't, we don't get to see much obviously from these practices. Normally when fans are there, we hear a lot more. There's no fans.


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[Assistant] So that's the thing about Tom, is he knows in that, I don't know if that is something he's always been able to do, but with 20 years of successful offensive experience, and especially with that Patriot offense being predicated on checks and everybody seeing the same thing,


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[Assistant] I feel like Tom can dissect the defense better than anybody in the NFL right now. I feel like that is something he is very good at and that is paramount in the Bruce Arians offense. That's why the first year the quarterbacks go into that system. It's always difficult because they'll have to see the same thing.


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[Assistant] Carson Palmer said he struggled in the first year of Bruce Aaron's offense. James Winston obviously struggled in the first year of that offense, although they put up big passing yards, a lot of turnovers.


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[Assistant] Who's going to win? Who's going to make the playoffs? Who's going to win division? The NFC South right now, Tuesday, August 25th, AJ Hawk, Ohio state legends, Superbowl champion picks this team to win the NFC South Tuesday, August 25th. Go ahead and hammer.


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[Assistant] So you're 100% on Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Tuesday, August 25th, winning the NFC South. No problem at all. Lock it up. Lock it up.


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[Assistant] Cause you're not normally like that by the way. You're a guy who- You asked me a question.


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[Assistant] But I, as soon as I saw Tom go to Tampa, and then Gronk jump in, and then now they got AQ Shipley, I'm like, oh, that team's definitely gonna win, no problem at all, let's keep it moving. I was called an idiot, I was told that I ride the wave of emotion too much, I'm just telling you that my cigar smoking cerebral friend right over here, believes the same fucking thing, and I feel pretty good about that.


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[Assistant] Miami has come out, they're the only team I think that has completely laid out an entire plan on how fans will be in the stands. Like, ticketless entry, you coming at this time, you coming at this time, here's how we're gonna do it. Miami has been at the forefront of telling people, we will have motherfuckers in the stadium. Okay, that is what they have said literally since jump, now they have an entire plan.


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[Assistant] Is a MUCH different world when those fans are in there. Now granted,


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[Assistant] The only comparison I have, I guess, would be warmups when their fans aren't in there, and then when their fans are in there.


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[Assistant] But that place is electric. I mean, it is very intoxicated, very loud and their offense puts up insane numbers. So there's a lot to cheer about. That is normally what people cheer about is offensive completions in the ball moving. It happens in training camp whenever there's a long completion.


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[Assistant] On your own team, the fans go crazy. It's like, well, should we be happy or our guy just got burnt right there? They go crazy every single time.


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[Assistant] That Saints offense is an operable offense that is asking their fans to lose their minds on a very regular basis and that place is scary whenever it gets going. I mean it is. They hung 69 points or something like that on us on Sunday Night Football. It was insanity and that place was rocking the entire time.


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[Assistant] If they got toredo still, we ain't talking about anything, but for the Green Bay Packers of the league, I would assume the fans are going to be a, I mean, that's a pretty big deal, like in the feeling of it being a big day, right AJ?


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[Assistant] This is gonna sound so interesting, but it'd sound like I'm grandstanding, but.


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's how players that play like real positions have to hit people like, hey, every single time I step on the field or there's film, I want it to be great. But I do believe there's a lot of people that have that mentality. Like, hey, I just want the film to be good so I can continue to make money for the rest of my life doing this.


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[Assistant] No pride at all in their work. It actually got shut down. 700 of them got shut down. We lost our pizza. But there's not a lot of people that take a lot of pride in a lot of things anymore. The NFL, there's gonna be a lot of pride there, especially if it's fourth quarter down 20. No fans in the stands.


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[Assistant] When I'm listening to something, I want it to have a nice noise isolating fit in my ear holes. You do always say that. And you know, you know who I'm talking about? Hmm.


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[Assistant] Raycon and a half! Raycon are the greatest wireless earbuds that you could ever put into your ear holes. Let me tell you why. AJ and I have weird ears, don't we AJ?


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[Assistant] We don't have cauliflower ear. We're not that tough. So if you see us in a bar, we are not somebody that you'd be scared to get into a fight with, but I have weird ear holes. It always kicks things out. The AirPods go in there. My, some reason my ear kicks them out. The other ones that used to have to stick in there, it kicks them out. These ones get kicked out. If they weren't wrapped around my ear, literally they kick them out.


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[Assistant] But the Raycon wireless earbuds, they come with different sizes of plugs to basically put on the end of it so that any ear hole can fit perfectly and have a nice noise isolating fit. There's no dangling stems or dangling wires. You just put it in there.


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[Assistant] Boom, the world, uh, dissipates and whatever you're listening to takes over your brain. Now, it doesn't matter if you're binging podcasts, they sound fantastic. Listening to absolute bangers in your ears that thump a little bit, they do got the boom booms even though they're wireless. It could be absolutely anything and Raycon makes your hearing experience.


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[Assistant] Much better. It's why celebrities like Snoop Dogg, Cardi B, Melissa Etheridge, Brandi and JR Smith are obsessed with Raycons. Raycon offers their wireless earbuds in a range of fun colors and patterns. AJ had to do this because he's got kids. They all wanted their own individual little fun one. AJ, that process was obviously very easy because they have so many good different patterns.


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[Assistant] Uh, they have a compact carrying case that will charge your earbuds up to four times in a single charge. And I believe each time has six hours of playtime. So you do the math. That's a full 24 hours with the case. You can listen to whatever whenever.


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[Assistant] However, their everyday E25 earbuds are the best model yet with six hours of playtime, seamless Bluetooth pairing, more bass and a more compact design, and they have a nice noise isolating fit.


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[Assistant] Great colors, great patterns, Raycon earbuds, both stylish and discreet. Go to buyraycon.com forward slash sports talk.


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[Assistant] He's worried about the Niners because the amount of injuries that they have. They got a lot of hurt wide receivers. They got a lot of interesting situations over there. They obviously re-signed George Kittle, John Lynch.


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[Assistant] Shanahan, they keeping the core together that they have brought in offensive linemen whenever they lose offensive linemen. They're in obviously the Super Bowl last year. Everybody thinks they're going to win. Are they going to sign Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] No. Yes. No. Yes. We thought about it. They don't. Jimmy G's still their guy. 186 yards rushing before contact against Green Bay Packers in the NFC Championship. Do they have what it takes to get over the hump? A lot of injuries. People are worried about the San Francisco 49ers.


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[Assistant] What did he say about the Niners though? He says word about it. He says word about it. He wouldn't go out and say how many games they would win or lose. He just said that they have means to worry right now with the injury issue that they have going on at camp. You're saying he's wrong again? Okay, I'll write that down.


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[Assistant] AJ said he was wrong again. I'll let him know. I'll let him know later. For sure.


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[Assistant] There is a couple names on the street right now that do not have a team. If we're going to talk wide receivers and Tony O'Brien is obviously out there. Percy Harvin still potentially out there. Jadevia and Clowney is out there right now. I mean, there's a lot of names. Errol Thomas is out there right now. Dez Bryant is out there right now. There's a lot of big names AJ. Do you think?


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[Assistant] I would assume Clowney right now has a couple of standing offers out there. They're like, hey, if you want to, here you go. This is our best offer. Hey, if you want to, you have this and maybe he's just waiting till the end of training camp, which by the way, I am a big fan of that move. If that's what he's doing, I would assume he's the first to sign though, or maybe Earl, maybe the Earl Thomas deal gets done rather early too. But where does Earl go? Doesn't sound like Dallas. Well, uh, Orlovsky? No.


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[Assistant] Aver, Cliff Averill said that Earl Thomas, you just have to know who he is. He said when he first got to Seattle, he didn't fully understand who Earl Thomas was, so he was a little bit taken back by it. He's a guy who goes full speed in walkthroughs. He's a guy that, he's, Earl Thomas is so laser locked in, he's just a different guy. Cliff Averill said that you have to get to know who he is.


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy has come out and basically said nah, but everybody knows down in Dallas, Jerry Jones calls those shots down there. What are you saying?


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[Assistant] And Ian Rappaport, yea, obviously came out. I wonder who he heard that from. Maybe McCarthy. Maybe he heard it from McCarthy's people because McCarthy, everybody has thought that he wouldn't want that in the locker room or right now to be an extra obstacle for him because he's potentially a personality. I mean,


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[Assistant] You see what happened in Seattle. You saw what happened in Baltimore. The senior player council voted him out. McCarthy probably doesn't want any part of that. And people say he's tight with Schneider too as Seattle McCarthy is, but everybody knows that down in Dallas, it does not matter unless Jerry Jones says it matters. And if Jerry Jones wants Earl Thomas in there, which


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[Assistant] It sounds like he potentially does. Everybody thinks he does. Especially cause Earl is a big fan.


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[Assistant] He's already pleaded to try to get down there. Now he's potentially going to come at a good price, especially if the Ravens have to pay him 10 million guaranteed. I think he ends up with the Cowboys and I could be wrong and I don't know if Mike McCarthy would be happy about that. But if Jerry has come out and say that's a complete lie, that means that Jerry is not completely out on Earl Thomas yet.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what, Mike, I understand where you're coming from, but let me tell you where I'm coming from.


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[Assistant] You see all those cars parked out in that parking lot. That's from my fucking money. Okay. So if I want to roll Thomas here, you go ahead and take your big ass on a hike. What if that's what Jerry says? Because didn't Mike McCarthy say in that press conference, the debut press conference that


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[Assistant] Him and Jerry and everybody had a great time. They had a great time. I don't know what that means. I would like to know what that means. I hope they dive into that a little bit later, but I wonder while that great time was happening, if Mike McCarthy said, Hey,


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[Assistant] Bill Parcell said it was you, you were making decisions that Bill Parcell didn't want to happen. Jason Garrett has been alleged. You're making decisions. Jason Garrett doesn't matter. I wonder if Mike McCarthy said, Hey, there's a little bit of a, uh, uh, reputation that you do not care what your coach thinks about anything.


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[Assistant] Is that true? Oh, don't you worry about that? Don't you? Oh, Mike, don't you worry about that? Cheers. But whatever it is, this will be interesting. And I assume Mike McCarthy knows that it's his job to coach up whoever's put on the team by the GM who Jerry Jones is. He's got to do his thing, but this will be.


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[Assistant] The very interesting first step of this relationship between Mike and Jerry. Especially now that there's contradicting reports from Rapaport and from Jerry.


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[Assistant] You know, you know how players watch like their coaches press conference to kind of get a sense of how the coach is feeling after things like that is something you could do. You can kind of get a sense of how the coach feels.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, oh yea, oh yea, you know exactly how the schedule's gonna be, you know exactly how this week's gonna be by listening to that press. I wonder if Mike McCarthy's just gonna be listening to Jerry's press conference like, alright, well.


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[Assistant] Let's see how we did, Donner. And then Jerry Jones comes out. Well, I think the team didn't, wasn't, uh, uh, properly prepared for today.


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[Assistant] He's like, fuck. All right. So now that's a direct shot at me. Cause that was happening. Jason Garrett, by the way, Jason Garrett would be learning things, I assume about himself via these press conferences. And that happens nowhere else. Immediately after the game, Jerry has 30 people around him and he is just like a fire hose, just letting everything out.


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[Assistant] And it is awesome. I love it as a fan. I love that somebody has to talk.


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[Assistant] But you can see how Mike McCarthy, who's never had to deal with that, could potentially have a little bit of worry about how that whole thing's gonna go.


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[Assistant] I just got to sit back. Mike MacArthur just has to sit back and enjoy the ride and coach whoever they have, but don't coach too good, especially while office hours are happening because there's businesses that's around the practice field. So you can't do too much. I mean, that place is electric to say the least. Absolutely electric. Um, what else is happening in the world?


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[Assistant] Nine of the top 25 will not be playing this fall. They will be set to play in the spring. Ohio State, they're at number two. Will they lose that number two spot when they play zero games and other people play at least one game? TBD. Let's look forward to these rankings.


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[Assistant] Or do they have like a top 25 poll with like parentheses next to teams? Like, you know what I mean? Like, uh, Clemson at one. Okay. Clemson wins the first game. They'll stay at one number two. Okay. We got North Dakota state because they blew out central Arkansas. They played one game.


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[Assistant] But in parentheses, previous Ohio State, uh, they are not currently playing. We do not know how team is playing. Is that just how every top 25 is going to be? It's going to be like.


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[Assistant] But, uh, it might be Penn State if they were to play. We haven't gotten footage from their practice film, but we think they're still playing good. There's going to have to be all of that. I like the fact, though, that whoever did this was like, yeah, we'll rank these fucking players right now if we have to. We don't know if any of them are going to play. We have no idea if they can play each other, how that's going to work, but we'll rank them if you need us to, for sure.


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[Assistant] How are you gonna do any of this stuff for 10 years down the road when you look back on it? I don't know how any of it's gonna work.


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[Assistant] Allegedly. You think fall schedule's gonna happen for college football, huh?


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[Assistant] Kirk Herbstreet, friend of ours, was not very positive about it. And I feel like he talks to a lot of people.


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[Assistant] That no stuff. I just feel like that happens. He was not very positive on his fall schedule working out.


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[Assistant] I don't know who he's talking to, how it works out, but if you think about what COVID is probably going to do on these universities, it's going to be difficult, I think, to continue this thing. And you got to get every college football player to maintain a disciplined self-quarantine.


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[Assistant] So they don't potentially pick it up from anybody so it doesn't spread throughout the entire locker room. I'm hoping it happens. I am very much hoping it happens, but boy, it feels like that's going to be difficult to pull off. It's going to be 17 year old kids.


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[Assistant] September 26th was the first game. Okay, September 26th. So we're one month out basically. Month in a day. Does it help? I thought somebody was going to play earlier than that.


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[Assistant] What? Shout out to the American Conference. I got a chance to see a lot of them play on Thursday Night Football last year and I follow a couple of the coaches. The SMU coach, one of the SMU coaches tweeted out, I don't know about y'all, but we playing football this fall. Like such a good, like such a good recruiting tool. Cincinnati's playing, Ohio State can't.


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[Assistant] That is awesome. That's like Pitt can play, Penn State can't. I mean Temple's playing, Pitt's playing, Penn State can't. What a wild time to be alive right now.


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[Assistant] How upset is the Big Ten right now, all their fans, knowing that, listen, what we just said there, Cincinnati's playing, Ohio State is not. Pitt's playing, Temple's playing, Penn State's not playing. I assume there's like a Northern Iowa that's probably playing. Iowa State. Iowa's not.


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[Assistant] Allegedly Michigan State, West Virginia, allegedly at one point was interested and he has refused. He has stayed at the state of Cincinnati. And that team, when we went to their training camp, that team was ready. And they had an offensive lineman that transferred in from Michigan that somehow wasn't allowed to play. He's like one of the top guys maybe in the country. So that team's only gonna get better. And that quarterback was what, a freshman last year or a sophomore last year?


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[Assistant] They're gonna be good. Cincinnati's gonna be good. But I find it very interesting that these smaller conferences have been able to figure it out. In the Big Ten that has millions.


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[Assistant] Of dollars weren't able to figure it out. Good for the American conference. I did not know they were playing. That is, I saw that tweet from that SMU coach and I was like, what's that? What's this guy even say? Are they playing like scrimmages? And it's like, no, no, no.


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[Assistant] It's going to be tough if all these conferences are playing and we have a full slate of games coming up in what Ohio State fans who live with that are just sitting there at their house.


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[Assistant] Kevin Warren! That is, it is gonna be insane this fall. I'll be excited to see if they finish the season. I would assume that was what the Big Ten and the Pac-12 were talking about. Like, might be able to get a game or two, we'll be able to finish it. If they are, this is gonna be...


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[Assistant] Outstanding to watch just from a dramatic and controversy standpoint and also recruiting.


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[Assistant] How is, think about Cincinnati recruiting the same players as Ohio State potentially.


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[Assistant] And say, hey, listen, we understand that Ohio State's this big, big, big operation. They're awesome. They're everything. And Luke Fickle would be like, I coached there for a long time, played there. I know all that, but they don't even like football. They don't even play up there. Here at Cincinnati, we play football. That is going to be used against the big 10 coaches in recruiting for probably the next 10 years, if I


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[Assistant] He's not happy. And I just, I just think he is the face of the Ohio State fans. Like I'm like, all right, Bobby Carpenter probably feels how a majority of the Ohio State fans feel. So if I know how he feels, I feel like I know how the Ohio State fans feel. And it's like they're not happy if that's


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[Assistant] Alright AJ, I'ma get the hell outta here. I'll see you on Thursday, brother.


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[Assistant] Sounds good man, thanks. Hey, not a bad show today. Not a bad show out of us, I think.


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[Assistant] Relax. I have a great way of reading the room and situations. I am currently being a mediator for a rather large potential announcement for our show for this fall. I cannot leak that out because I'm not sure how close the deal is to being done, but there is a deal that I am currently playing, uh, what would that be called?


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[Assistant] Yeah, because we do business with people and that's, that's kind of what I, people, like when I cut that promo and said I made a million dollars in seven different professions, uh, they started to add them up.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's a lot going on. I think it's going to be a massive fall for us and I can't thank you enough. I can't thank the people that watch this show.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Fitzpatrick, I don't know if you want to sit, if you want to show him off.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the exception of course being Qatar, uhm, and as I said, so I think, I think if you take the, the, the peaks of Oscar season, they're right up there with the peaks we saw from a Verstappen or a Hamilton or a, you know, any one of that caliber really in the rookie season, Leclerc, another one with Sauber.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess, you know, you can take away some pressure, can't you, by learning further down, but in F1, you always could compare to your teammate, uh, and that was there from early on. He out-qualified Lando in Saudi, didn't he? You know, early on in the season, so uhm, and I think,


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[Assistant] Uh, and he, and he came through to get, you know, solid hollow points from, from a pretty annoying qualifying error by his own admission. So, um, I thought, same in Abu Dhabi, you know, you made that mistake in quality, didn't you, at turn 14.


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[Assistant] Kept his head down when the car was difficult early in the year and then in Austria when he got the update early, uhm, absolutely maximised what he had and, uh, I thought it was a super season.


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[Assistant] In the group they're fighting, that's often the difference between, you know, Leclerc getting five in a row in the front row, uhm, and a couple of times behind.


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[Assistant] For me, I think that's where Fernando scores, you know, he absolutely maximised the potential of that car. They started the season very strongly, you know, on average in the first half, not first half, first part of the year until Spain.


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[Assistant] The Aston was about 0.5 of a percent away from the Red Bull. Uhm, and that's a huge gain. You know, last year they were 2.06% off, so they gained massively. Uhm, but Fernando was the one who was maximizing that potential.


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[Assistant] Fairly costly errors. I think Canada, he was running fourth or fifth. Fourth I think it was wasn't it? When he hit the wall coming out of the chicane. And then later they retired the car. And obviously Singapore was the more high profile one where he was running third.


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[Assistant] So, you know, that was a healthy haul of points and two possible podiums even, that went away, uhm, certainly one of them. So I think, you know, that was disappointing, but he...


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[Assistant] He bounced back a bit towards the end of the year, you know, the qualifying gap between them was the closest it's been.


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[Assistant] Uh, across the entire field, you know, across all 10 teams, uhm, they were only 0.020, 20 hundredths of a second apart throughout the season. Uh, 15-13 in George's favor actually in terms of the results, but basically evenly matching quality.


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[Assistant] A fairly emotionally traumatic winter, I imagine, uhm, and then realize he doesn't have the chance to...


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[Assistant] George has some great results towards the end of the season. You have to say in the last three weekends he outperformed Lewis, didn't he? Uhm, I think in Vegas and Abu Dhabi, uhm, Brazil he had a difficult race actually, so last two weekends at least.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in contrast, obviously, you know, you've got days like Qatar, you had a poor qualifying in Miami. Uhm, you know, then sort of went off the boil a little bit, didn't it, in the last three weekends? Okay, Brazil, the team collectively had a shocker, but...


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[Assistant] Maintain, they've got the best driver lineup in Formula One and they have done ever since they signed George. You know, I think there's no question about that in my mind. Collectively as a pairing, that is the strongest lineup and


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[Assistant] I think there's so much that's going to depend, there's also 26 I think, you know, who gets a card right for 26, that's the one I'm more interested in, with the new rules coming, uh, and at that stage,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's the only thing that's a bit tricky to judge, but Albarn's races in, uh, Canada and Silverstone were excellent. Uh, Zanvo, he was great all weekend, did a good job with the strategy there as well when the rain came down. Um, yeah, on the whole a very, very, very good season.


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[Assistant] I know from my own experience how hard it is as a reserve driver to just jump in and get on with the job. Uhm, and I thought he did an extremely good job in high pressure situations. He knew he had three or four opportunities to establish his credentials as a, as a future Formula One driver. And he did it. Uhm, you know, I thought, you know, being told


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I agree. I mean, if I had to choose a driver across the whole season, then, actually, Gasly was my, was my 10th place driver. So, uhm, Tomo, if you have to.


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[Assistant] When we start to see this convergence as we inevitably get with stable rules,


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[Assistant] I think the pressure will ramp up on, on that, uhm, you know, on that second red bull to be outperforming the Ferraris and the Mercedes and the Astons and the McLarens and...


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[Assistant] Maybe the Alpines, you know, all these people. Uhm, but yeaah, I think, uh,


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[Assistant] They've gone backwards from being 4th best to now being 6th best and more worryingly.


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[Assistant] Aston and McLaren have shown we can do that. Midfield teams with smart resourcing, good recruitment, putting the right people in the right place, uhm, and having good drivers, you know, it's a team of course, uhm, you can make that step and, uh, I think that is,


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[Assistant] Then he said to me, he says, when he, Matt was furious after Baku. And when he came home, he said to us, or later that evening, he said to his dad,


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[Assistant] But he was eight tenths ahead of his teammate, six tenths ahead of the rest of the field. Uhm, I watched the lap back on the skypad.


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[Assistant] Three or four times. Trying to find any, anything really where there was something left on the table.


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[Assistant] Is quite good, is what I've learned this weekend. And I think that,


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[Assistant] That car is possibly better than last year's car. In fact, it's definitely better than last year's car. It's amazing. I think we are


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[Assistant] How do we put this? I think that the others are going to have to be on absolute top form on any given weekend to have any chance of beating that RB20 because it's amazing. It's just, it's just a piece of art. It looks like a fighter jet. We've been saying all weekend and I think he's done it again.


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[Assistant] You know, I was talking to a few people from Red Bull on, on Saturday night, Sunday, and they were just, yeaah, this is very, very, very good. And I think we're gonna, we're gonna probably...


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[Assistant] And let's not say it's not just Adrian Newey, by the way, it's Pierre Fache. It's the whole design team that have put this together. It's more of a collective effort. And I know that they think, uh, within Red Bull, yes, Adrian is the, is the, is the top man still, but it is a collective, isn't it?


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[Assistant] When you go back to 2021, a lot of people would disagree with you saying the best season ever because of what happened at the last race. But what I think, we had this with Mercedes and we've had it.


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[Assistant] We've had it with Schumacher, we've had it with Vettel. You go through a period of regulations where one team is so dominant that it just carries on and I think that again, we go to Newey, we go to Ground Effect and he's the master of the Ground Effect era of cars and he's got it right at the start.


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[Assistant] And it carried through and they've just been allowed to stay one step ahead because just of the fact that yes, there's the law of diminishing returns, which will bring other people into it as we get towards the last stage, which is why 2021, we had a really good title race, wasn't it? Because it was just fixed regulations for a, for a while, but


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[Assistant] Unbelievable, isn't it? And then the RB20 is just here. They've got, they've literally have completely changed the concept. And I say he's, he's just a genius, isn't he?


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[Assistant] I'm not sure what we can add to that except for Jeremy Clarkson, didn't he, on the grid was saying he'd analysed the times and it wasn't much different from last year in terms of the gaps. What have they been doing all winter?


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[Assistant] Well, they've been working really hard, but Red Bull have been working as hard of them and they had a car that was ahead of them. So we just keep going back round to that. Can we, will there be a situation this year where we have a McLaren?


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[Assistant] Or whoever it might be that, that develops to a point where they can, you know, find performance. Are we going to get something like that? I hope we are, but I'm not sure we are.


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[Assistant] Just the elements are moving, aren't they, for 2020? That we know for 2026 people are starting to think about it. And...


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[Assistant] I just wonder if all of what's been happening...


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[Assistant] You have to think ahead. You have to think ahead. And that's what they're doing. And that's what the Verstappens are doing. That's what Joss is doing. People are getting their ducks in a row early because you've got to. If you want to win championships from 2026 and beyond, now is the time.


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[Assistant] Again, going back to why this, why this year could be good is because so many, so many drivers, 13 of them are out of contract at the end of 2024. And if you are in the racing bull visa cash out, whatever they call racing bulls, you know that you're potentially in the best position.


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[Assistant] To have a go and have a crack at the seat next to Max next year, if Sergio's not going to stay, uhm, or if they're not going to renew his contract. So I think tensions are going to be high and they're high already and it's started.


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[Assistant] I love Yuki. Don't you? So do I. So do I. I do love Yuki. He's such a character. He's a lovely guy. He's brilliant for the sport.


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[Assistant] Extremely fast track, uhm, when you look at it and you compare it to things like Baku. Baku is obviously a very quick street circuit, but this one, with the kind of changes of direction, it's quite tight as well, it's, yeaah, it's...


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[Assistant] You know, some might say dangerous, but I think it's a, it's a, it's a really, you know, it's a very, very slick track and I think the drivers quite enjoy it actually.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, thanks for having me on and pleasure to meet you Nico, but the word I've gone with I think is defining and it's because Red Bull answered every question they needed to answer. Didn't sit in pole position in qualifying. Even I got brought into the dream of a slightly more competitive race, but


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[Assistant] Max and Red Bull came up trumps again, so I've gone with Define him for the, for the race this weekend.


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[Assistant] Nico, I always, as a fan, I watch those races and watch Max every week and I think...


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[Assistant] How do you stay concentrated to the, obviously you're going around corners at ridiculous speeds and everything's on a knife edge, but do you ever just sit when you're leading races as often as, as that and are there ever moments where you really, really need to stay concentrated and remember where you are in the fact you are in a Formula One car leading a race?


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[Assistant] I think it would be up there for me. I had the privilege of sitting down with Thierry Henry recently and he spoke about that invincible season that Arsenal had and the writing on the wall for that season was there.


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[Assistant] It would be up there with the great sporting achievements like the Invincibles and it would certainly, for me anyway, be on a par with that. To go through a whole season with Red Bull winning every race would just be, would be incredible. It would be legendary, Nico, I think.


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[Assistant] Feel like it's a way of quantifying what you're achieving, isn't it? If you look at people you either aspire to be like, or people you compete against, if your records are better than theirs, it's a way of quantifying what you've just achieved. And I think he'll definitely be looking at those, those records and Red Bull will be.


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[Assistant] We'll be wanting to do it. I think if they can keep a car on track the whole season, I can't see anyone beating Max at all.


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[Assistant] I think if you look at how he was, how he opened the season was clearly had that winter where he was talking about being champion and the first few races didn't have that level of distraction that perhaps we see now and maybe that's where the complacency and inconsistency is perhaps creeping in.


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[Assistant] Yeah, completely. I think if you look at previous seasons where...


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[Assistant] They've needed someone to maybe help Max from charging Lewis Hamilton or a bit more competition at the minute Max is so far ahead. They don't need.


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[Assistant] He comes back after the break if he, maybe he needs that break just to have a bit of downtime and come back in the second half of the season and put some performances that might just keep him in his seat.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Lando Mania is real, honestly. A lot of my friends who are new Formula 1 fans, it's all about Lando Norris and to see him and McLaren back near the front of F1 is good for everyone who watches and all involved. It's just...


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[Assistant] I don't know if they can close that gap on Red Bull, like Nico said, I'd love them to. And I think the jump that they have made this season is already incredible, but to have another team competing for those podium spots is, at least it makes for some overtaking behind Max.


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[Assistant] Also, Oscar Piastri, he's putting in really solid performances and I guess the excitement of Lando double podium is easy to focus on, but Piastri's driving like someone who's much more experienced than he is in his seat in McLaren.


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[Assistant] We had a little party after qualifying at Silverstone, uhm, which was, which was incredible. It just seems like...


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[Assistant] The hard work is finally starting to pay off, and I don't know how you couldn't celebrate the results you're guessing, but it really feels, when you're near Lando and Oscar up close, they seem to be a team, they seem to get on well, and I think that can help and is important, so, I mean,


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[Assistant] How could you not be happy at McLaren right now with the results and the upgrades that they've put in have clearly had a massive impact. So hopefully it can continue throughout the, throughout the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] I mean, Lewis Hamilton is the whole reason I ever got into Formula One many, many years ago when he was in the McLaren. So I was, I bought into, like Nico, I thought Sunday was going to be a Lewis special and he was going to go and at least compete for, for longer. So, I mean, it's great to see them. Great to see, you can see the emotion, uh, which we kind of haven't seen.


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[Assistant] Too often in, in recent times from Lewis. So that was nice to see. Uhm, and uh, you see, Nico will know better than me, but it seems like he's a really hard worker and...


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[Assistant] I think there's a big part of all F1 fans who just want to relive those former seasons of Max vs Lewis and Lewis vs Max every week. Any hint of that and you can easily get lulled into being excited. Just wasn't there Sunday.


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[Assistant] After the end of the season success they had, I thought the gap would be much closer and I did think originally at the start of the season that the early results were.


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[Assistant] It's just a blip, but I think you showed, the car revealed it's true pace on Sunday. Obviously it came back when it had a lighter fuel load in the end, but I just think it's where Mercedes-R, McLaren have obviously made the jumps they had.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like, if Mercedes can get on the podium consistently, that seems like success at the minute and obviously that's not what so many F1 fans are used to over the last 6, 7, 8 years.


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[Assistant] I'd obviously love to see him in a position to compete for, uh, an 8th, uh, that would be for me something that I'd love to see. He's the reason I love F1 and to see him again be close to being crowned a world champion would be, would be amazing. But at the minute, just, uh,


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[Assistant] That dream of an 8th is for me fading and fading away and hopefully Mercedes can pull it together and at least get him a car that can compete with Red Bull and McLaren if they keep improving the way they do.


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[Assistant] When I saw he was gonna be back in, back in F1 and then the Red Bull rumour mill started, I kinda wondered what...


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[Assistant] He'd have to do for the remainder of the season to put forward a good enough argument to get a seat at Red Bull. I don't know what success for Danny Ricciardo looks like this season.


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[Assistant] It gives us some extra jeopardy to talk about though, doesn't it?


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[Assistant] It's so unforgiving, F1. It's hard to draw a comparison with football because...


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[Assistant] I guess the ruthlessness of it, if you don't take your chance and you need to be in that top elite, elite group of people in the world who get to sit in a F1 car, uh, I'd like to think you'd need a season to get.


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[Assistant] Or you think you need a season to kind of really understand what you need to be a top F1 driver.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hope after Perez is charged this weekend that we can see him and Max at least have battled out some laps. I think he'll have got great confidence from Hungary and if he can take that into next week, hopefully we can see a Red Bull McLaren shootout, which should be nice.


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[Assistant] I hate it a lot, you know. I sat there at home, I thought it's a good shirt.


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[Assistant] Look great. Maybe we'll see the shorts next weekend with a different show.


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[Assistant] I'm one for sport curses, it was the Drake Curse for a little bit. Have you seen the Nico Rosberg F1 Curse that's been going around on Twitter?


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[Assistant] The next few weeks are really big because if you, if you post another picture next weekend.


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[Assistant] And the team or the driver perform bad, it's gonna just keep getting bigger and bigger.


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[Assistant] Yeah, out of, uh, four nights? Five nights? I lose track. All I know is she had the shortest birthday ever.


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[Assistant] Because it happened in the sky on the way to Tokyo. Uh, and obviously because you're going kind of forwards in time.


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[Assistant] Uh, it means that the day is very short. So Wednesday basically didn't happen. Uh, we took off Tuesday, flew through Wednesday, landed, uh, Japanese time Wednesday evening. So she celebrated for a short period on the plane and, uh, that was that. So, a birthday.


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[Assistant] That's for you to forget, really. Uhm, but yeaah, then she dragged us to this sushi restaurant and kept, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was almost like the paparazzi was there, uhm, cameras everywhere.


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[Assistant] She was really enjoying herself. We went there twice and it was, it's always a spectacle going to Japan.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they, you know, especially when the sushi master is there, uh, working and you and, and, and.


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[Assistant] I've been dicing the sushi and it is pretty- even Damon had a bit. I thought he was a vegetarian.


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[Assistant] We'll do that from next year. That's next year's challenge. We'll do that.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you hear a level of frustration. I've just seen Max Verstappen and Red Bull just...


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[Assistant] Romp away with it and destroy the competition. So, you know, straight after the race, you're a bit devastated by that.


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[Assistant] But in a pragmatic way, looking to improve the car in every way possible, and I think he's aware, the team are aware, and everybody else, that Red Bull have the advantage at the moment in a similar way to Mercedes have an advantage, uh, before this current set of regulations.


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[Assistant] And when you've got that advantage in your winning championship after championship.


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[Assistant] Whether or not you've got penalties after cost caps or whatever, it's given you such, uhm, such a-


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[Assistant] A backlog of time to carry on developing next year's car. You just constantly sit ahead of the competition. They're scrabbling to try to make headway to catch that gap.


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[Assistant] And you've got that buffer, that, that margin to, to work on your next year's car. So that's why Lewis is alluding to the fact that we need to work harder than ever right now to catch that gap because they're going to make massive gains next year as well.


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[Assistant] And we need to catch them, not only catch what we're behind now, but potentially where they're gonna be next year in the future as well. So you've got to almost do double the work that they can. Helped a little bit of course by the fact that


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[Assistant] A little bit, uhm, for Mercedes in, in that respect, but...


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[Assistant] There are things that they need to sort out with a car. It's not


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[Assistant] The car was, let's not forget, the car was never designed to look like this this year. It was never designed in the first place to have side pods. They switched that coming into Monaco and it's a bit of a, heh.


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[Assistant] With all respect in the world, it's a bit of a cut and shut job. I think the team would admit that themselves. It wasn't designed from the ground up to look like this, to behave like this. So, you're fighting fires in many ways.


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[Assistant] And I think next year, starting from a clean sheet with what they've learnt from this year's car, and this year's add-ons, if you like, uhm, I think it must be, and I think all the hope is there, it must be a better car going into next season.


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[Assistant] Well I do get a bit of a flavour of it in the simulator, of course, in watching the...


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[Assistant] Intentional updates or, or concepts, uhm, come through and, uh,


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[Assistant] It's different departments within the team, and this is what's fascinating about Formula 1 teams today. All these different departments that there's not one person in a Formula 1 team


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[Assistant] Let's take Mercedes as an example, around a thousand people, all coming together with all their ideas and groups and concepts and parts they're working on.


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[Assistant] All coming together to make this incredible machine, uh, is really something to behold. And to be, as I am, just a tiny cog in all of that process, uh, it really makes you...


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[Assistant] Fully appreciate, uh, the work that goes into it and also how


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[Assistant] A leader or multiple leaders within these teams, uh, it's a bit like making music, isn't it? You've got, you've got individual musicians and they can all play very well, their own pieces of equipment, their own instruments, but you need people to bring it all together to make excellent music. Otherwise it's just a horrible cacophony of different


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[Assistant] Instrument making all kinds of weird sounds, you know, and all like a football team, so you need someone to make it work.


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[Assistant] And that's the magic, I think. That's the real magic, is someone knowing...


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[Assistant] When to say yes or no to different angles of development.


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[Assistant] And, you know, we talk about the wind tunnel. It is just a simulation. It's a simulation tool, just like CFD, just like the actual simulator itself, just like anything that pulls off from the car.


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[Assistant] All of the data you're gathering from the car is all just put into this world of simulation and the wind tunnel is like a...


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[Assistant] A very secretive, and rightly so, a very secretive world that not many people within an F1 team or anybody within the F1 team even has access to within the premises. They can't even, it's an untouchable...


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[Assistant] And you rely on that, on that department to come up with the magic every year. And like Bernie touched on, it's so influential to the car's performance today. Everything else hangs off of it.


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[Assistant] The suspension design, the weight distribution, anything. The dominance is the arrow.


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[Assistant] And you'll come up with strange things, the pull rod, suspension, the post rod, whatever, that's all because of the drive of the aerodynamics. You wouldn't normally come up with these, these kind of...


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[Assistant] Wacky ideas of suspension. Any, any mechanical engineer that's never worked in aerodynamics before would look at a suspension concept of a Formula One car.


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[Assistant] And go, what on earth are they doing? That makes no sense at all. It's because the aerobar dominates the mechanical influence of the car. So yeah, I hope that gives you an idea as to.


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[Assistant] How it works and how it all comes together, uhm.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, I'm there every once in a while in the sim as well going thumbs up, thumbs down, I like this concept, they're not, they're really not sure about that concept or it's just neutral. Uhm, and a lot of the time that's all they're looking for because as the car moves on, if they've got just,


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[Assistant] If they're happy with that element of the car and they don't want to change it, and you say, yeah, that's, that fuel was pretty transparent to me, that's actually a good thing.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, it's a very, very interesting world, uhm, and a world of simulation.


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[Assistant] The good thing is that, uh, you know, going back to that interview with Lewis, the good thing is that both drivers have quite similar, and he touched on that, they have quite similar demand from the way the car feels. We're hearing that the Ferrari drivers, for example, uh, signed and declared their


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[Assistant] Their styles are quite different apparently and that makes it very difficult for the team to know which direction really to go in in terms of


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[Assistant] Uh, aero-shaping, as they call it, or, or, you know, mechanical design from the cup. It, it really does compromise things, so I think part of the...


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[Assistant] It clearly would, yes, it becomes much more personal and much more competitive when you're fighting for a championship rather than fighting for the positions they were, say.


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[Assistant] Japanese Grand Prix for example, and yes, you always want to try and beat your teammate, but it definitely becomes...


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[Assistant] More, you've got more of a valid reason to fight team orders when you're going for a championship and then.


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[Assistant] Things get a bit too close for comfort and the team have to step in and say, Think about who you're driving for here and what the ultimate goal is. Well, when you're fighting for a world championship yourself.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm sorry, that's my goal. And yeah, I don't want to crash into my teammate and ruin things for the team itself, but I'm in this myself as well, so it's a really...


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[Assistant] It's like a catch-22, isn't it? Are you doing it for yourself or the team? And when you're not fighting core...


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[Assistant] A world championship, uh, yourself, then you just kind of slip back into more, yeah, let's do this together, work together for the greater good and...


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[Assistant] Limited company doing it for your own benefit. So, you know, is the driver an employee or not? It's a really grey area and one that I love to talk about, because I've been on both sides. I really have as a driver and as a teammate.


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[Assistant] It's not an easy question to answer, but for now, they are being...


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[Assistant] They are behaving themselves, but there's definitely a hierarchy in that team, and rightly so. No, it is, he's earned that status in that team as a seven time world champion and George can't argue against that. And George is still the understudy and he's doing a very good job on those


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[Assistant] The near misses, the drivers coming, almost a blows, almost a contact and...


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[Assistant] But then he's... He's a good boy on the radio. Uh, and uh, but he takes it... You can tell he's...


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's very British about it, and, uh, and, uh, there are layers to, to, uh, to the annoyance, I think, and it always comes over as- Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think he knows where he is in the team, he knows he's got the speed, we all see it as well from the outside, and uh,


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[Assistant] You know, and Lewis is getting his elbows out when he needs to and, uh, I'm really intrigued by this battle and watching George develop as a driver and, uh, I'm watching Lewis in his...


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[Assistant] You know, in his latter years in his career, let's truthfully speak about that. Uh, watching this young, hard charging driver in George really threatening him for speed and consistency and


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it's great to watch Lewis getting stuck in as well.


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[Assistant] The fighting turbulence as well when you're stuck behind another car, don't forget. So as a driver, it's very hard to anticipate how the car will feel when you're in free air and sometimes you're


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[Assistant] You're actually, you're being a little bit over-optimistic in how the car will feel when you get into free air. Finally, you go, oh, it's not actually, yeah, giving me the grip. I thought, oh god, sorry about that guys. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think it's not just me saying this, but everybody in the paddock that I've spoken to about it. I mean, Liam Lawson, what a cracking job he's done and continued to do that in Suzuka as well. I think he might just have one final run out in Qatar next race coming up.


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[Assistant] Uh, if Ricardo's hand hasn't recovered in time, uhm.


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[Assistant] So we'll, you know, we'll wait and see if that's, or when that's confirmed.


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[Assistant] But, uh, if that is the end of the road for Lawson for now, then I think he would be an amazing option for Williams and one where both teams can benefit from, you know, in the short term Williams can benefit from having clearly a known quantity that will jump in and do a good job. He's done enough races now and enough.


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[Assistant] Uh, conditions to give people confidence and that's what a lot of the time is down to in a team.


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[Assistant] It's not just one person making that decision who to put in a car. It's lots of people have to be brave enough in many ways to not be proved wrong if it does go wrong. And it's like a bored decision who they're gonna go for.


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[Assistant] The, the better your results have been, like Lawson, in lots of different scenarios, and you can see, yes, the guy keeps his nose clean, he doesn't, he's not a crasher, he's fast when he needs to be,


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[Assistant] He's a methodical worker. He's a good overtaker.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, you know, he's a team player and...


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[Assistant] He ticks a lot of boxes and he's young and he's got time to continue to learn out of the spotlight. Uh, so, you know.