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[Assistant] Playing this weekend that played in the same weekend last year. The other seven teams from last year.


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[Assistant] A combination of things. The losses at home, to the Texans, to the Colts, to the Packers.


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[Assistant] The prime time game against the Packers, where they just didn't look all that great. The defense early on in the year, looking like it was no better than last season. The Patrick Mahomes injury, and before he had the knee injury, his ankle was a little banged up and he wasn't as great. He gets eclipsed by Lamar Jackson as the new flavor of the month.


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[Assistant] And we just kinda, we just kinda forget about they, you know, they were in danger of losing the division lead to the Raiders at one point, and then, oh, they're not gonna get a buy, and it all kinda fell together for them in the last few weeks of the season.


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[Assistant] When we were focused on the scrum for playoff positioning, and what's up with the Patriots, and the NFC's upside down, and Cowboys, Cowboys, Cowboys, and I think the uh, the Chiefs benefit from that. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] It allows you to get a chip on your players shoulders, and you don't have to worry about them having big heads. And it's the perfect combination. And you can't engineer it. It just has to kind of happen. And I think it plays into the hands of Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs. And it makes me more convinced they're going to win the game and cover that spread.


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[Assistant] I think it's going to be Rogers just because I think Mike Patton will be smarter than Jim Schwartz was and take away that downfield passing game and force the Seahawks to run and I think they will be able to run. I think Marshawn Lynch with a couple of weeks, he's building up that callous that Jim Harbaugh always talks about. He'll be in better football shape and maybe be more


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[Assistant] Productive. Alright, those are the props. Chris, lead us through the best bets of the week.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna go to the first game, the game we're gonna be at. I've already picked the Vikings to win straight up. My best bet, though, relates to this over-under of 44 and a half. It's the lowest of the weekend. Are you kidding me? These are the Vikings and the 49ers, and I know there is gonna be some defensive punch.


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[Assistant] But there's also gonna be some opportunities to score points, and that is a low, low over under. I think this one goes over the 44 and a half. I've got 51 total points under my projection of 27 to 24. Could be higher scoring than that. I just think, you know, and for me, it's so much easier


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[Assistant] And you know what? For whatever reason, this feels like week 17 where I couldn't get a real strong feeling about who's going to cover the spread.


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[Assistant] In any of the games, so I'm going with another over under, and I'm staying on Saturday, Saturday night. It's already been bet down from 48 and a half to 46 and a half in the Titans Ravens game, and I think it's gonna be under that. I think it's gonna be well under 46 and a half between the Titans and the Ravens. I am shocked.


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[Assistant] That the over-under is higher for that game than it is for Vikings 49ers. So, over in the early game, late in the late game, or under in the late game, under the 46.5 Titans Ravens.


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[Assistant] But I think the Titans, that's all the more reason for Mike Vrabel and company to slow the game down, take the full 40 seconds every play, elongate the drives, shorten the games, and reduce the number of possessions for the Ravens. It's just one of those things that's just hiding in plain sight, Chris.


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[Assistant] I love the AMAs, I love the AMAs, and I do, like, we do a lot, but say thank you to everyone out there, because everyone's so connected with this podcast, with you, and you've been doing it for a long time, and we've almost been doing it for a year? No, it's almost been one year.


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[Assistant] Phil, just a little while ago, that he hasn't really gotten your thoughts on what you thought of Super Bowl 54, the big comeback by the Chiefs, when it looked like the 49ers defense was going to be in a position to


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[Assistant] To lock that game up. So just kind of overall initial thoughts on what the Chiefs were able to do in winning that Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I think the, the, the big, uh, discussion point now, because I think both of these teams are set up pretty well for the, for the future. I mean, you got Patrick Mahomes, you're gonna be as good as long as he's there, 49ers with that solid defense. You mentioned Nick Bosa.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and do you think he is the guy that can deliver into the future for the 49ers? I guess if there's one question mark on the team, for a team that was what, 13 and 3, and, and was 10 minutes away from winning the Super Bowl, I guess that's the, that's the big one for me.


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[Assistant] So I think it was about that, uh, that last sequence there and all the different things that the 49ers are trying to do defensively and if they're


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[Assistant] We look at this year, and you hear it all the time, it's a copycat league, right? Whoever wins the Super Bowl, you're like, oh, it's just things more like that. And I think if the 49ers had won, maybe we're talking about, oh man, the return of the running game. And we even are, you know, but not every team can do that. Are there any things, any trends that we saw?


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[Assistant] This year with Kansas City that we think is, this is a changing league and will try to be copied by other teams. Of course, they don't have a Patrick Mahomes, but what did we see from this year that that might carry over into next year?


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[Assistant] Uh, that, and that gets me thinking about Joe Burrow. It's so funny. And he's right, right? What if he stays at Ohio State? Doesn't play at all. And then he gets onside as an undrafted free agent. And then he blows up in the NFL. All of a sudden the story is like, wow, look at this team developing this guy that was nothing in college.


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[Assistant] Writing in, and this is kind of interesting because, you know, you have a dominant team in your division and sometimes you wanna, you wanna.


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[Assistant] So that was, I chose question number two that Ricky Kachur sent us right there. So what do you, what do you think teams? Should teams out west do anything specifically to try to slow down Patrick Mahomes in a draw?


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[Assistant] Nick Belfour says, why don't more teams use the Shani running scheme? What elements do you need to make it successful? What sort of alignment? Pretty clear, you don't need high pedigree running backs for it to work. Well, those guys are fast. Like, most are, it's one of the fastest running backs in the league.


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[Assistant] Adam Alberti says, uh, What have all the other analysts seen this year that makes them believe that Richard Sherman is a top five cornerback while you don't think he's even top ten? So the numbers were very flattering for Richard Sherman all year. He basically gave up no big plays until


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[Assistant] The two biggest games of the season. The NFC championship game to Adams and then what happened with Watkinson Hill in the Super Bowl. I mean, numbers wise, he was a top five corner. Now, it's like you were saying before, it's a team sport. So, I mean, what are people seeing? I mean, individually, they're probably still assessing him as one of the top five quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] NFL Latino says, uh, this one's interesting. Is Tampa a good possible destination for Rady? Two great wide receivers, two good tight ends, some pieces on defense, good coach, cap space, great location to live. An improvement over Jameis, surprised it doesn't get mentioned more often. What do you think of Tom Brady? Throw that into the mix of the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] We want to do something different, right? You only have one life to live. Let's see what else is out there. Do you want to talk a little draft here? You were taking notes. Was it on these draft questions here?


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[Assistant] We'll put any teams off drafting him or move him around the board. And you, you know this from, uh, from experience here.


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[Assistant] Uh, this leads, there's a couple questions on the NFC North. Yeaah. And there's one here from ASWPAC and talks about a guy you just mentioned, uh, Jerry Judy. Would you like to see the Packers make a Julio Jones type draft day deal to trade up for Judy? Do they need to give Aaron Rodgers something like that?


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[Assistant] And it helped last year too, because there were, there were a few that went high, first, second round, and a lot of them produced. Yea, they're ready, right? We just watched, Debo Samuel was top of the list.


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[Assistant] It would be good if they could get Chase Young, which leads to our next question from Waiting for Redskins News, and he says if the Redskins draft Chase Young, does that give us any chance to at least make the playoffs next year?


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[Assistant] Because they're one of those teams that doesn't appear close, right? And the conventional wisdom is get as many assets as you can. Yeaah. But sometimes those players are so good, you don't want like a Nick Bosa, you don't want to pass on.


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[Assistant] We have international homies. We get, we get questions from them from time to time. We do. We love them out there.


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[Assistant] I, I, I knew they were fans of ours because the questions were really good. They were. They were. They knew some backstory and they were great. They did, yes they did. They were all over it. Andrew Blair says, Hello Chris, just watched At Pro Football Talk on Sky Sports in Scotland.


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[Assistant] What is your problem with the tiger stripes on the Bengals helmet? It's the best looking helmet in the NFL.


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[Assistant] The bigger problem is, uh, the team has bigger problems than the uniform. That is true, they do have some big problems, but he likes the uniform!


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[Assistant] Anyways, we've talked about having it where you start the year with no stripes. And then as the year goes on, you earn your stripes.


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[Assistant] Let's be part of the solution. Let's, let's try to rebrand the Bengals. Okay. We'll do a segment where we come up with a new, maybe even, uh, whatever. New name is even not out of the question for the Bengals. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with you. Yes, can we rebrand?


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[Assistant] Nothing is off limits in a rebranding of the bankless. Matt says, how do you feel about the Jaguars moving two games to London?


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[Assistant] And as our final one before we move on to talk a little bit about the parade. Yeah. How dank is Taylor Ham? Ooh, dank. That's such a Jersey word. Yeah, that's a dank. And Taylor Ham is what exactly? Dank and schwag.


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[Assistant] Uh, so what was the best part? He wants to know what the best part of growing up in North Jersey. Not that Taylor Ham.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes on top of a double decker bus pouring beer onto


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[Assistant] Here's Travis Kelsey, uhm, he was wearing the WWE belt, and it was the championship belt, and he's got the microphone, and he's, it's almost like a, do you smell what the Rock is cooking? That's what it was. Is that what he said?


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[Assistant] Uh, here were the, uh, the tweets coming from the, the police department, which the Kansas City Police Department, whoever runs their social media, funny person. Very funny person. Total arrests from the parade rally area today.


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[Assistant] We did not arrest a person with a cop on a horse. There was actually a person standing on a horse and I think we have a picture of that where he seemed to be smoking a joint at the same time.


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[Assistant] Because there are like a million people around them too. How did the horse get in the middle of all these people? It's almost like, cause people had to camp out.


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[Assistant] It was bear. It was out. It was out and it was partying. So those are the, that was the parade. I mean what a fun time. Can you imagine a parade with beer? It was a little chilly for them, but they had $20,000 jackets. Not chilly enough to wear underwear. They were fine. Alright, so we had, before we go, we had not one, but two people request


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[Assistant] Yeah, see, so he just said, just listen to the podcast. This is True Story. I wanna count this as the one tweet you're requesting. Way to go, Adam. Way to go, Adam Blackhall. You're the man. There was another one as well. I think it was from, uh, D. From you? Yeah, there it is. D. Geisel. I don't know these people. I love this.


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[Assistant] No, so honestly getting married was the, the best moment of my life probably. I think having kids was two, and then getting these two tweets was three. It was very close. You went with the kids too though, huh? You're gonna go with the wife marriage first? Yea, cause the kids are very difficult. It's kinda, I feel like the marriage I don't regret.


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[Assistant] Okay, so you ready? Yes. Requiem for a team. Uh, we were playing the music. Okay, there it is. Okay, here it is, okay. Here lie the 49ers.


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[Assistant] On Monday, uh, Lunch Talk Live, he had me on for a segment, I was super excited about it, and I have like my IFB in, my lights on, my cameras all set up, and then immediately once we come on air,


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[Assistant] I've always been that way. Like when, when you ratchet up the pressure, I do get a little sweaty. I get a little sweaty under the armpits and stuff can, can fall apart, but we do. We gotta, hey Chris, we got, we've put you to the task this whole month. You have been just looking at game tape.


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[Assistant] Ignoring your family under quarantine the entire month.


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[Assistant] The past 30 plus days, we're going to look at what defensive tackle rankings, your top five there, along with linebacker rankings. We're also going to react to the cornerbacks. People got some things to say about you with your top five and your top five safeties as well. A couple of reactions there. But first, before we get into that,


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[Assistant] Can we talk about the Browns and their New Jersey? Because I feel like you and I have become kind of the unofficial Jersey police here. But we've really thrown ourselves into that role. Neither of us were high on the Browns old look.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they have changed, and they have basically, Chris, gone back to the future. So their old look is on top, and their old, old look is on the bottom, which is now their new look, and I must say, I like it. I'm a fan of simplifying the look.


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[Assistant] You're right, we're suckers for this right here. We're right in that age range where if you go back to jerseys from the mid to late 90s, we're going to be all about it because it takes us back to a simpler time for us. So I think this elicits those reactions, but it's just a cleaner look. And I love, I love the Brown. Any team that, that showcases the Brown proudly. I'm a fan of that, Chris.


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[Assistant] Let's go. Here we go. I was gonna say, I was gonna say, I was gonna say Chris, we haven't gotten to our top five jerseys yet. We're saving that for uh, after the draft maybe, so uh, who knows, maybe the, maybe the Browns will get up there, probably not, but they're closer than they were before. Alright, your reactions to your cornerback rankings, let's start there.


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[Assistant] Uh, this one comes, oh actually, let's first take a look at your rankings here. Here they are. You shocked the world once again, Chris, with uh, Jeffrey Okuda. Many think he could go top five, maybe as high as number three.


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[Assistant] To Matt Patricia and the Detroit Lions, uh, you had him as the number three overall cornerback prospects, although you still are, you're still very complimentary of him, but you just liked Henderson and AJ Terrell, uh, from Clemson just a little bit better.


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[Assistant] Got a comment here from MTL406, Chris. He says, I like, I like Chris, but oh no. Whenever it starts like that, you're in trouble.


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[Assistant] I like Chris but think his logic is flawed. He harped on athleticism indicating that CJ and AJ possesses more than a cuda.


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[Assistant] But he's making 40 times synonymous with athleticism. Terrell had a 52 percentile jump score, 26 percentile agility score, and 47th percentile catch radius. And if you do look at the athletic profile from Okuda and a lot of those things outside of the 40 yard dash,


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[Assistant] As we're showing you here to our YouTube audience. He does rank out pretty high in a lot of those categories that maybe AJ or CJ don't. So how would you, how would you respond to that criticism, Chris?


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[Assistant] So here's my question to you because I've heard you say that and I've often agreed with you here is that we see how their careers play out and it very rarely goes according to how we had them mocked before the NFL draft and so there's a lot of variance with a lot of these players so of course you have differing opinions.


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[Assistant] It does seem like, from what we see on the media side, right, you do get a consensus more. I'm curious, you've, you know, you've been on the other side of it. You were in the draft room with the Patriots, or just as close to the draft room as Bill Belichick would let you.


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[Assistant] How different do you think each NFL team evaluates these prospects? Is it, is it more different than what we see from the media and the scouts in the media as when they compile these mock drafts? Do the actual NFL teams have rankings that look closer to yours where these players range from 1 to 10 and there really are a lot of different opinions?


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[Assistant] You said he's, he's one of your favorite players in the draft. He is Earl Thomas, uh, at Texas. Uh, you did not include Isaiah Simmons in these rankings. He will be in your linebacker ranks here and a little bit later in this podcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, but we did get one question from Grant Dickman too. He goes, whoa, no Grant Delpit in the top five. I understand the lack of tackles, but he is a complete ball hawk, really played tremendously until halfway through the year when he battled through an injury. And this really is surprising, Chris, because


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[Assistant] Basically from what we've done so far, if you played for LSU, you got to rank in the top two at your position in the Chris Sims, uh, draft ranking so far. So, but you didn't have Delpit in your top five. Why?


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[Assistant] That's right, you don't know, but still in there. Brett Walker, one more on the safeties here. Brett Walker asks you, are you putting Jeremy Chin in your linebacker rankings? Jeremy Chin, the senior out of Southern Illinois, a safety linebacker, maybe a hybrid player. What would you consider him and how did you like him?


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[Assistant] Alright, so Defensive Tackle is the Chris Sims Top 5 for 2020. This is an exciting group because I think there are a couple players.


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[Assistant] To put anyone high just because a lot of other people are. So we'll start with number five for you. Your number five defensive tackle.


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[Assistant] PFF, Pro Football Focus, very high on him, had him the highest graded defensive tackle in college from this past season. Okay, that's good to know. And he did it, he did it in the SEC, which is impressive as well in Missouri, and as you mentioned,


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[Assistant] And so he did have to produce and do his job when he was the main focal point. You gotta stop him if you're taking on Missouri. Some of the negatives that I found out there that a couple of scouts put on him. It took him a while to show up in college, which maybe necessarily isn't a bad thing. Maybe he's just


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[Assistant] Now figuring it out. Uhm, and also that he has moments when his motor cools in pursuit and maybe doesn't finish on the big plays. But there weren't a whole lot of negatives out there on Jordan Elliott.


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[Assistant] You think, then you think all five of your defensive tackles have a chance to go possibly in the first round, late first round here. So number five is Jordan Elliott out of Missouri. Number four, the number four defensive tackle prospect for Chris Sim.


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[Assistant] I guess the question with him and you touched on it a little bit with the, with the production with him and the numbers and you're not a guy that looks at numbers and stats and you look at his physical ability. But there's a little bit of a worry out there that 2017 was the best version of Raekwon Smith. Just two sacks, his final two years.


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[Assistant] He didn't necessarily get better throughout his college career is one of the knocks on him. What would you, how would you respond to that?


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[Assistant] Was reading around, someone said he has the upside to be the best tackle in the draft. So there is still room to grow, still potential for Raekwon Davis out of Alabama, who Chris Sims has as the number four defensive tackle prospect heading into the draft. Number three, we're into the top three already. Number three, Chris, who you got?


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[Assistant] 940 time. He's lost weight too. He shed about 25 pounds before the season.


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[Assistant] Uh, he benches 500 pounds, squats 800, so he's just a beast. He's fast, he's strong, can blow up the place. And it is also noted here, he's gonna be a plus in the locker room, uh, guy.


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[Assistant] And he helped himself immensely at the senior bowl. So not only did he impress with his physical abilities, it seems like he is a, a plus in the, in the character department as well. At least that's what the team evaluators are saying about.


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[Assistant] So unless you're going completely off the board, it looks like defensive tackle, you're gonna go with the consensus for the most part here because I believe the top two defensive tackles out there are flip-flopping. There's not really a real consensus on who should be the number one guy off the board, so


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[Assistant] Let's hear who's number two for you this year in 2020.


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[Assistant] One of the negatives with him maybe could be, you know, he had labrum surgery on his hip in 2018, but he played huge chunks even with that hip injury and played pretty well. So who knows, maybe even that.


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[Assistant] Injury history is a strength as it shows what he was able to do despite being 100%. One of the things they note about him, and it's kind of interesting, the same thing you talk about receivers and their route running ability and if they displayed it in college and if they were asked to do it in college.


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[Assistant] He doesn't have a whole lot of moves, just has a push-pull and a swim move so far, but yet he was still very successful with just those two moves. You assume he's going to be able to learn more as he gets into the NFL. And so he is still a, a raw work in progress who was still able to be successful.


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[Assistant] Number two, Javon Kinlaw may have been just 1B to your number one defensive tackle prospect in the class of 2020, Derrick Brown out of Auburn, another giant human being, 6'4", 3'26", and you say he too could be, should be a top five pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] And I think teams, even if he does gain that weight and he loses some mobility and a little bit of speed.


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[Assistant] Probably his entire NFL career. Kinlaw will be good at stopping the run, but he also has a little more potential, maybe he's more disruptive in the pass game.


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[Assistant] It really was even because I saw a couple and it seemed like the consensus early on was Brown and then a couple people bucked the trend with Kinlaw and then that got in vogue and so I think he's gaining some steam within the expert mock drafters right now but the consensus with Brown is that just like you mentioned


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[Assistant] But now he's a potential, potential top five, uh, pick and teams like him too. They're enthusiastic about him off the field. And so there's, there's just a ton to like. And I think a lot of people came to the same conclusion that you did. Both of these dudes are really good.


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[Assistant] I don't know what to say. You don't even have a website. There's nothing for people to click on, I think is what they're mistaking the point there. You don't, you're not, you have nothing to click on. If you're gonna go do it for the clicks, you need something to click on.


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[Assistant] So that is your top five rankings. Ross, you did not make the top five, but you did get the only shout out as an honorable mention. As Chris flips the page now, this is a meaty pod because now we go into the linebacker prospects and there are some really good ones. One that


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[Assistant] It seems to stand out more than the rest of them. We'll see if he stands out to Chris at number one. But, uh, I guess just generally overall your thoughts on this linebacker class, which it's kind of weird because


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[Assistant] Going through a lot of these prospects, it seems like there were a lot that were like, okay, is he an edge? Is he a linebacker? Is he a safety? Is he a defensive back? There seems to be a lot of, a lot of variance here in what they could be.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's get it going. Number five, the number five linebacker ranking for Chris in the 2020 class.


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[Assistant] He didn't play much at all his first few years at Michigan. I mean he's, the production is light because he just wasn't necessarily starting it on the field at times.


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[Assistant] You just don't know, and so you, and a lot of times in the draft you do want that certainty, especially if you're taking a first, second, third round pick on the guy, like where are you comfortable drafting a guy like Uche?


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[Assistant] And some noted his potential is growing into perhaps an elite pass rusher with the great burst of speed that he has and the physical traits. Josh Uche, your first Michigan Wolverine in any of your rankings so far. You've been down on the Wolverines, but there you go. That's your first, your first Wolverine.


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[Assistant] Is number five Josh Uche. Number four, your number four linebacker for 2020 as you flip to the right page in the notebook.


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[Assistant] Scouts love that he is still early in his past rush development, but could be a weapon as a blitzer. You mentioned the sideline to sideline range for him.


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[Assistant] One of the questions with him is that he was, you know, he came to Wisconsin, interestingly enough, as a dual threat quarterback.


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[Assistant] He was very athletic, uh, played a lot of edge at Wisconsin, almost primarily. And so now you go to the next level and you're like, oh, he's a linebacker. He should be able to do it, but he actually hasn't done a whole lot of it. You may think he can do it, but until you actually see him do it and then actually producing at the next level.


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[Assistant] So you got two Big Ten players in your top five so far. Josh Uche from Michigan, Zach Bond from Wisconsin, number four. Let's get into your top three. Number three linebacker in the 2020 class, Chris.


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[Assistant] Many people noted his playmaking ability, chiseled frame, big legs and ass guy, long arms, you mentioned the wig span there, speed player glides from sideline to sideline.


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[Assistant] One of the positives about him that may be also a negative


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[Assistant] That I saw noted is that he's willing to take chances. It's almost like you shot out of a cannon on some of these plays.


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[Assistant] But that can tend to lead to some overaggressiveness which I imagine can be, can be toned down perhaps at the next level and maybe you'd rather have that overaggressiveness than underaggressiveness but it does lead to some misplays for him when he's going almost too fast.


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[Assistant] My old high school baseball coach used to tell us, if you think you stink.


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[Assistant] Uh, so he is your number three linebacker. We're into the top two. There is a consensus number one, which makes me think that maybe Chris will wanna bump him down to number two because it's what we've seen so far, but you go strictly by the tape, your number two linebacker in this class, Chris.


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[Assistant] Impressive ability to diagnose the play, like you said. Impressive open field tackler. People love the way he is in coverage.


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[Assistant] still improving. He really was a breakout player this year for LSU, as you mentioned, and excelled with it, excelled in the college football playoffs, so you know he can rise to the occasion and the big games he was there for. And, and this too, Chris, which is interesting, you don't


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[Assistant] People saying maybe he has more of a defensive backs body, but that's the changing NFL. You got these hybrid players and that leads us to your number one linebacker in the class. I'm going to speak for you because I think it's Isaiah Simmons out of Clemson who really, one of the things I read about him.


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[Assistant] He played all over the field and that's what made him obviously versatile, but he also did it


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[Assistant] At one thing and the answer may be different from different teams out there as you noted, as you noted. So you have Simmons, you have Queen and you have Murray.


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[Assistant] Where are they going in this draft? How high are they going? And how closely grouped are those three?


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[Assistant] Alright, before we go, you wanna throw any love to any honorable mentions out there? I know some people like Troy Dye from Oregon, Willie Gay Jr. from Mississippi State, Jordan Brooks out there from Texas Tech. You like any of those guys?


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[Assistant] Chris, you've done it again. You've almost looked at every college player that has ever played the game in the year 2020, but we still haven't done offensive line. We got to do offensive line.


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[Assistant] Natural, it's natural. If I was, if I was losing them, I'd have to brush more. But since I have good natural enamel, I can just go with one time and they're fine. Uh, Chris?


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[Assistant] Well done. Again, my friend. Amazing work this whole past 30-some days here.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] Nope. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Uh, didn't we just do this earlier? You know, we did the joint collaboration every Thursday during the season and I got used to it. We've been out of practice for a while. I had no desire to do this. I had to be talked into it. Wow. Thanks. Thanks a lot, dickface.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I haven't really thought that far ahead yet. I'm just going day to day, hour by hour, because if you haven't noticed, the world's gone nuts. So, I'm just trying to survive. My goal for the week? Survival. Survival.


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[Assistant] Don't you realize that part of the, part of the corona, for whatever reason, the coronavirus frenzy has caused people to buy all the toilet paper?


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[Assistant] You know what, I may, I may just, I mean, just install a bidet. Maybe I'll just do that.


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[Assistant] Does he go? You think he's going? Alright, Joe Strummer, I think he's going. I think if he was going to stay, we would know it by now. Just like we know Drew Brees is staying with the Patriots. I mean with the Saints rather. That would be a story of Drew Brees with the Patriots. I feel like he's going. I feel like he's going. Why let it


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[Assistant] Why do that? Because I think the uncertainty does a certain amount of damage to the relationship


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[Assistant] Just make it known, you're staying if you're gonna stay, and I think with each passing hour, it becomes more likely that you leave. That's just my, that's my gut feeling. I have no infor, nobody knows anything, as Tom Brady said himself. Nobody knows. No, and I don't know. But, I know this.


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[Assistant] Unlike Drew Brees, there's a sense he may leave, and I think, I just think right now he is. And I kinda want him to, so I can't separate that feeling. I'm rooting for him to leave, because I think it makes for a better story. And that may be clouding my judgment that I think he's going to leave, because I acknowledge I want him to leave.


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[Assistant] And Don Yee. He was going to be involved in that football league that Don Yee is still trying to put together. Pacific Pro Football League. And then ESPN had to basically tell him you're not doing that. So there's relationships all around there for him to know what's going on. So he can at least chime in on whether the chatter is true or false. And he said, as you pointed out,


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[Assistant] Made this argument, but I kinda buy the idea that


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[Assistant] The Titans are using their Brady interest to try to leverage Ryan Tannehill. I get that. And I don't know if it's going to work, but I don't think Brady to Nashville makes sense. I think Brady to San Francisco makes a ton of sense. Goes back home with the team that was the number one seed last year, upgrades at quarterback, and they try to get back to the Super Bowl and win it this year.


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[Assistant] Something about a fractured relationship between Bill Belichick and Tom Condon who represents Ryan Tannehill. And it dates back to Ben Watson. Remember when Ben Watson was a rookie and they were trying to ram a six year deal down his throat because some teams insisted on six year deals for first round picks at the time and Condon


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[Assistant] He fired Ben Watson. He's not putting his name on a six year first round contract at that level, at that, you know, he was in the twenties. And, and I, I, is, is there? I don't know. You would know better than me because you were there in 2012 and you'd have heard them bitching about Tom Condon. Um, but, but that would be a factor, wouldn't it? In Ryan Tannehill going to New


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[Assistant] Yeah, but my guess would be that Ryan Tannehill and the Titans work out some kind of a short-term deal because here's what'll happen.


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[Assistant] Before we even get to the legal tampering window, Condon will know what's out there for Tannahill. Right. And I just think that, I think that if he's not gonna go to New England,


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[Assistant] If there isn't another team that's rushing to get him, then, uh, then I think they worked something out to stay put. But here's the other wrinkle here, Chris, that we haven't mentioned. The NFL has now moved the tag deadline until 11.59 and 59 seconds AM Eastern time on Monday.


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[Assistant] The 16th of March, one second before the legal tampering period opens. So it's not like people are gonna know who is and isn't tagged because the tags can be applied right up until then. Cause there may be teams waiting to see whether or not Ryan Tannehill or Jameis Winston get tagged.


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[Assistant] We're not gonna know until a second before you can talk to the guys about possibly signing contracts. So that's gonna create a different dynamic.


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[Assistant] And, and so I, but I, but if anybody signs before Brady or agrees to terms before Brady, it's going to be Ryan Tannehill. Uhm, uh, because obviously Brady can't sign with anyone until Wednesday the 18th at 4 PM Eastern. It could be Tannehill signs his contract with Tennessee before then, cause he can at any time.


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[Assistant] No, I think those are the ones. I mean, I'm looking at these other guys. Somebody would be staying put. Right. If somebody's changing teams. I think Brady is the first one to change teams for the reasons you pointed out on PFT Live that the team needs to know it's got him so it can market Brady.


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[Assistant] That's the one I feel most strongly about happening. I think Newton would happen after that because there's a lot of moving parts there still and you've got to get a contract negotiated with Cam Newton to make him happy in a new city and also you've got to get the compensation


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[Assistant] For the Panthers that they would want. And you have to just resolve the question of whether or not he wants to be there or whether or not they even want him. I just feel like that one's more complicated. And I think with Nick Foles, that's one that could maybe simmer for a bit. I could see the Colts slow playing it if they're interested in Nick Foles and I think they should be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but you've got to work out an adjusted contract and it's almost like a Ryan Tannehill deal where maybe the Jaguars are going to have to pay some of that money to work it out. So that feels like something that happens after the initial crush of free agency. So I'd go Dalton first, then maybe Cam, then maybe Foles. But I also think Foles is more likely.


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[Assistant] Well, I think if they do, New Orleans is gonna match the offer. And so, you know, this is one of the reasons why teams don't get involved in negotiating with players who are


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[Assistant] Subject to a right of first refusal because you are just doing their current teams negotiating for them for free unless, unless you have a deal that you offer Taysom Hill along the lines of 15 million for one year


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[Assistant] But, but, but is it that, I mean, isn't the fact that Sean Payton loves him enough? Sean Payton also was one of the few who loved Patrick Mahomes. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] As a closet Vikings fan, although you've pulled me out of the closet, I don't want, I don't want Tom Brady, I don't want Tom Brady, but I'd take Taysom Hill.


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[Assistant] The only way he's not staying is if Jerry Jones has too much Johnny Walker Blue, then you can never have too much Johnny Walker Blue if you're Jerry Jones, and wakes up one day and says, I've had enough of this, we're trying to sign this guy, we're bending over backwards, he keeps saying no, screw it, we'll get somebody else. But I think Prescott's staying put.


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[Assistant] I'm Brady, I'm going New England Patriots, I think he stays in New England.


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[Assistant] I say he's gonna end up with the San Francisco 49ers because I hope he does. I don't have any inside information, I just hope he does. Alright, Ryan Tannehill, next guy.


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[Assistant] I have no idea. I really don't. I think that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are gonna keep him when it's all said and done.


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[Assistant] That will make him say I'm a clear cut starting quarterback. I don't envision and Peter King put this idea in my head last week and I'll take it. I don't think the Colts are gonna break the bank for Philip Rivers. I don't think anybody's gonna break the bank for Philip Rivers and I don't think Philip Rivers is taking an offer that makes him


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[Assistant] Either clearly the backup from the moment he walks through the door or potentially the backup at some point, not long after he gets there to whoever the guy is they draft. So I think it's going to be at ESPN. And I think long-term, here's my, here's my fantasy scenario for Monday Night Football. Philip Rivers and someone for the next two years, 2021, ABC,


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[Assistant] Whoever they get to do play-by-play, and they really want Al Michaels, and he'll not be under contract to NBC by then, so I guess they could get him if they want him, unless NBC works out an extension. Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning, and a play-by-play announcer.


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[Assistant] Would be awesome. That would be the closest they've ever come to dialing it back to the 70s when it was Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell.


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[Assistant] There wasn't too much ego when it was Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell. That's what made it great.


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[Assistant] If Tannehill leaves, uh, Tennessee, I think Phillip Rivers can end up there. Teddy Bridgewater, I think, to the Buccaneers. I already put James to the Buccaneers. What am I thinking? You better think this shit out, bro.


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[Assistant] But the only team we've heard about is the Raiders. And I can see him being that Ryan Tannehill figure behind Derek Carr. If Derek Carr craps down his leg, as you like to say, then Mariota could take over. Just know when to make the switch. I just, I also, I wonder whether or not


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[Assistant] Mario, his personality is something that'll get John Gruden excited, cause he's very flat-lined, and Gruden wants more of an ass-kicker.


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[Assistant] And remember, remember five years ago, the rumor was Chargers do a trade with the Titans to get Mariota and send Philip Rivers to Tennessee. That never happened.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, we can't do a half hour on every one of these subjects. We did a half hour on quarterbacks. We got a half hour left for the rest of them.


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[Assistant] I think Chris Jones gets tagged and works out a long-term deal. I think Yannick and Gokwe gets tagged and traded. Yeah, uh, right. The Chiefs need Chris Jones.


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[Assistant] Chris Jones wants to stay there. It's a placeholder so they can figure out how best to do the deal. They'll see what the market does in free agency. They need to figure out how to keep him and how to keep Patrick Mahomes. And, uh, I think that maybe if they can work Mahomes' deal first,


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[Assistant] Then they'll know what's left over for Jones. And also they can use the Jones uncertainty to maybe squeeze Mahomes to take less. But in Gokwe, I would be surprised if he stays with the Jaguars. He doesn't want to be there. And we saw what happened last year both with D. Ford and with Frank Clark.


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[Assistant] You can get a lot of compensation for a guy that you tag in trade at the pass rusher position. I think that's what the Jaguars will ultimately do.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't tag him. I wouldn't tag him. He had a career year in his contract season. He had 10 sacks last year. Before that, he had nine sacks in four seasons combined and he benefited from Nick Bosa and Dee Ford. And I think you find somebody else who comes in and plays that position for a lot less money and you just move forward.


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[Assistant] Maybe you're taggin' trade, then maybe that's what they do if they have enough cap space to hold Eric Armstead temporarily. I just think that the guy who's the cornerstone of your defense long term is Nick Bosa.


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[Assistant] You worry about DeForest Buckner when it's time to do a contract with him. For now, Armstead at most tag in trade, otherwise just let him walk away and get your compensatory draft pick for him next year.


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[Assistant] I-I know, uh, from watching the Steelers ever since Free Agency first hit, they let these guys walk away because they're confident they're gonna plug somebody else in. And, uh, Bud Dupree, you know, he-


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[Assistant] He wasn't great early on and uh, I just, it's in his career. He's gotten better later and I would just let him go. Let him go and have faith that you're gonna find a replacement. We've seen them do it over and over and over again with pass rushers.


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[Assistant] And look, Chris, he's another one of these guys that had a huge year in a contract year. Four sacks, four and a half, six sacks, five and a half, and then eleven and a half last year. Look, you just gotta have faith that you have guys behind him who can get it done, or you can go find somebody else, uh, for a cheaper rate that you can plug


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[Assistant] Well, he had 11 and a half sacks last year in a contract year. Now, he didn't do much in 2018 after he was traded. Yeaah, and the reason they traded for him is they weren't happy with Indomicon Sue as an outside pass rusher, so they wanted to beef it up. And they initially wanted to get Jerry Hughes. They couldn't work out the deal with the Bills.


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[Assistant] So they went after Fowler. 11 and a half sacks. Look, franchise tag, I don't think happens. And somebody's going to overpay him on the open market because they're going to be infatuated by what he did last year, even though it may be fool's gold and he's not going to be that guy if you get him on your roster in 2021, or 2020 rather.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't pay him. I wouldn't pay him long term money. I'd just let him go. Chalk it up, let him go. They're gonna have to draft and develop guys. They got too much money invested in stars. The bills are coming due.


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[Assistant] Now this one happened during the season, and again, it was necessitated by Indomicon Su, not being what they thought he was going to be as a pass rusher.


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[Assistant] But they're just gonna have to hope that they can get younger players, cheaper players to do the things they need to do. And they need to accept the fact that if they pay Fowler, he may not be putting up eleven and a half sacks a year.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the Ravens have that very quiet confidence that they're not going to allow themselves to get extended too far financially, although then they went out and paid, they paid Earl Thomas a bunch of money. It was a weird disconnect last year when they let a bunch of guys go, but gave all that money to Earl Thomas. Yea, I don't get that one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they need to find a way to keep Matt Judon around. But again, in Ozzy we trust, in DaCosta we trust, and it's almost like with the Steelers. One guy cycles off, and another guy becomes their new Matt Judon. And, uh, yeaah, so, I don't think they will tag him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and uh, if he leaves, he leaves. You know, they let uh,


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[Assistant] The CJ Mosley leave last year, now Mosley ultimately didn't do much for the Jets because he was injured, but they just don't flinch in those situations. They trust that their coaching and their developmental processes and their draft pick strategies and their, their lower cost free agents will save the day and I think, I just have a feeling


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[Assistant] Owners get involved because they want to make a big splash in free agency. They want to attract attention from other sports in the market. They want to create the impression they're doing everything they can to win a Super Bowl, even if every owner realizes that if your standard for success is winning the Super Bowl, you're going to be pissed off all the time.


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[Assistant] What you wanna do is win money, or make money, and one of the ways to make money is act like you're trying to win a Super Bowl. And Clowney's got the name recognition, and I think somebody's gonna fall in love with this guy when they watch his highlights, and they'll take the risk that he's gonna be injured. Hey, anybody can be injured, and if it's Genevieve and Clowney, so be it. We have to spend the money, the money's here, we can go out and get this guy, and uh, if he's, if he is dominant,


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[Assistant] Half the time, it's a good deal. I think that's what's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna be, you know,


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[Assistant] More than Khalil Mack, but I think it's gonna be more than Von Miller. I think he's gonna be making 20 million plus per year. Now it may be a two or a three year deal, but I think, I think somebody's gonna pay the guy.


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[Assistant] More than they should because when top players get to the market and Clowney's getting to the market because of the deal he struck with the Seahawks last year that they can't tag him, when top players get to the market they get paid more than they should.


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[Assistant] We interviewed him at the Super Bowl. I think that's when you were doing Frank Gore or Jake Fromm or something like that. He just doesn't, he doesn't look like a football player.


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[Assistant] He doesn't have the, you know what I mean? He looks small, but he is an incredible cover corner.


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[Assistant] He works best out of the slot. He's looking for a system that's going to be conducive to him. And, and, and I just, I love a story, uh, you know, a guy who was undrafted and who just busted his ass and he's been at the top of his profession. And I'm rooting for him to go somewhere and be great. But, but that's the most attractive one to me.


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[Assistant] Hang on a second, hang on a second. We've got that graphic up. How many of those guys, right?


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[Assistant] Were, were free agents. Who got those contracts from the teams that drafted them? And who got free agent deals? Tremaine Johnson, 14 and a half million.


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[Assistant] Got the free agent deal after two years of the franchise tag with the Rams. Uh, Bouye got his 13.5 million with the Jaguars after being undrafted with the Texans. Gilmore got his 13 million after five years with the Bills. Look, here's the thing.


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[Assistant] And this applies generally. Guys who make it to the open market make it to the open market for a reason.


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[Assistant] And if Byron Jones was capable of being the best cornerback in the NFL, the Cowboys wouldn't be letting him go. That's always my big caveat. Unless it's a dysfunctional team that just makes a bad decision like the Bills did letting Stephon Gilmore go, and that was pre Brandon Bean and pre Sean McDermott.


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[Assistant] Great players don't get to the market. Guys who are destined to be superstars


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[Assistant] But if he was that good, if he was that good, he gets one of those contracts and they let someone else go. It can't just be well up, you came up at the wrong time. They're gonna plan for it and they're gonna get it done and they're gonna take it away from somebody else and not give it to Byron Jones. I mean, that's, I don't buy the idea.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I do think- Anthony Harris is an example of how the Vikings draft and develop young players. He stepped into a starting role when Andrew Sandejo got hurt a couple of years ago and he's been great.


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[Assistant] I think the Vikings are just gonna let him walk. I think they are. They have to have faith that their guys, almost like what the Seahawks had to do, the guys we haven't heard of are gonna step up and play.


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[Assistant] And some of these guys, it's not, and it's not a slide on Anthony Harris, it's just...


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[Assistant] I think that Cooper, now again, the cap keeps going up.


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[Assistant] If the new CBA gets passed, there's gonna be more. That's the one thing we have to take into account here. New CBA means more money's gonna be available for these guys.


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[Assistant] Both this year and beyond, the cap's gonna keep going up and up and up. I could see Amari Cooper, if he hits the open market, getting at least 20 million, and possibly just squeezing out, cause we know how the agents are, they wanna get a little bit more than the last guy who got the most. 22-1, 22-2, 22-5, whatever it may be, and, and when you, now,


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[Assistant] The, the, the one thing that pushes against that, all of the rookie receivers. Maybe you're not gonna have a land rush for Amari Cooper. Right. But we've seen how he runs routes. When we do got him during the season on PFT Live, every week there's an Amari Cooper route. He's awesome.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's ever been fully utilized, even by the Cowboys, and I could see somebody making him the highest paid receiver just because of the circumstance. A great receiver, hitting the market, unfettered, at a time when the cap keeps going up and up, it won't surprise me if he's


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's played in seven games the last two seasons. He hasn't had more than 1100 receiving yards since 2015.


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[Assistant] Tag and trade, tag and trade, even if you have to carry him into the season and trade him during the regular season when there's someone who's desperate for help and maybe willing to give you more than they'll give you now. But, but that, you gotta ask yourself, if we tag and trade before the draft, we get help this year. If we tag and trade during the season, we get our help next year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think they should tag and trade. And if they can't trade them, then just keep them for one more year and let them walk away. But I'm very nervous about the fact they didn't play last year.


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[Assistant] I'm very nervous about the fact that we've only seen him in, in nine games, excuse me, the last two seasons. Uh, and uh, yeah, I, you know, he's going to be 31 or 32. Let's check his birthday. He turns 32 on July 31. I'm nervous about the recent history of AJ Green.


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[Assistant] I said these guys are available for a reason. Look, I would say Emmanuel Sanders just because of his leadership. I mean, he's older now.


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[Assistant] They gave up a three and a four to get him during the season in San Francisco. I'll be stunned if he hits the open market, but he recently said there's been no talks. I like the fact that he's versatile. I like the fact that he's a good leader, that he's a seasoned veteran, and he seems to be not losing the foot race with Father Time at all. So that's one that stands out for me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, beyond that, look, Rashad Perryman kinda got it together in Tampa last year. We've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this guy to live up to his first round potential. And speed is always a benefit, but Sanders is the one that sticks out for me.


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[Assistant] I've talked to Patrick Holmes about Demarcus Robinson because they had a great connection in week two against the Raiders. They have incredible chemistry. And it could be, you know, we talk about Sammy Watkins possibly being gone in Kansas City and me, Cole Hardman being bumped up. I think maybe Demarcus Robinson is the guy who gets bumped up. And Hardman becomes number three.


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[Assistant] Let's put the graphic up with the top 10 running back salaries. Right now, Ezekiel Elliott at 15. Look, Derek Henry is today's Jim Brown. He needs three or four steps to get to full speed. Uh, he's got less wear and tear than some of these other guys because they didn't use him as much the first couple years of his career. Uhm, I think they're gonna franchise tag him.


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[Assistant] And he, you know, maybe he ends up playing out the season under the franchise tag, which, which actually has been dropping than what it was, you know, it was 12.1 three years ago. I think it's lower now because it's based on a five-year rolling average of, of running back salaries and cap percentages. I think that if they signed a long-term deal,


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[Assistant] I think that, oh man, 15 million is a lot because we, look, look at those top deals.


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[Assistant] All of them! I mean, say Guam Barkley, 7.8 million.


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[Assistant] Uh, for what they've paid and they don't use him the way they should. Todd Gurley's knee is jacked up and he's not worth 14.4 million and Zeke was a disappointment last year. All those factors conspire against Derrick Henry getting huge value and if you're explaining it to his agents, it's very simple.


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[Assistant] We want to get the most out of this guy and we've decided the best way to get the most out of him is to have him playing on a year to year basis.


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[Assistant] Let's go back to last year, let's go back to last year with Le'Veon Bell. He hits the open market after sitting out a whole year. He's still regarded as an elite running back when he hits the open market.


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[Assistant] And the Jets were bidding against themselves. The Jets paid more than they had to. The 49ers, as we've heard, was the next cut below, like several million per year less. The Ravens, they were trying to suggest, were in the mix. They were never in the mix. That was just phony to get the Jets to pay what they did. I don't know that the demand, if the Titans don't tag him, I don't know that there's gonna be a land rush for Derrick Henry.


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[Assistant] Too much money, guys not living up to it. He may live up, he may have 2,000 yards next year. Yeah. And, uh, and not get paid accordingly. It's, it's, and you know what? Maybe the way to do it is heavy on incentives. Maybe that's the way to work out a deal with Derrick Henry, that if he does get 2,000 yards,


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[Assistant] I think Kenyon Drake just because he was so spectacular when they got him to Arizona and they started using him. And you know, Arizona to their credit, they didn't keep him under wraps. They showcased the guy who they want by all appearances to be their starter. They just don't know that they can sign him because he did so well last year.


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[Assistant] He may have priced his way out of Arizona because they're stuck with the David Johnson contract. And, uh, you know, ideally, they, if they could find a way to trade David Johnson to Tampa Bay, they're gonna have to eat some of the salary to make that happen. But, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, I, you know, it's a shame that, that they are, they have their hands tied with David Johnson because I think Kenyon Drake fits well with that offense, unlike David Johnson, and Drake is the one that, that, that, that I, I'm impressed by if you use him the right way. The Dolphins never used him the right way, the Cardinals did, and we saw the production.


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[Assistant] PFTPM, whenever I get the motivation to do it, it's off-season, so I have a far looser schedule than you do. I spend my time copy-pasting.


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[Assistant] All right, good for you. I, I gotta check that out. I'm not so, so sure how good Whitaker's career was. I don't, I don't remember. I know him. I'm just not sure, but I'll take your word for it. All right. And we got a doozy today for the podcast. We got lots of football.


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[Assistant] Chris Sin's top 40 quarterbacks where everybody gets a chance to shit on me 40 times. No problem everybody. I'll just defend myself with all 40 picks.


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[Assistant] Let alone he's about as good in the pocket as I've seen any quarterback in a long, long time. So he was special that way. And, hey, I understand he had talent around him.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I necessarily think it's more talent than Tua had.


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[Assistant] Tua just had two top 15 picks at receiver pick.


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[Assistant] Again, I understand what he's trying to argue, but it just holds no water in this argument. Uh, Tua had the better offensive line. The only thing I can look at specifically and just go, yeah, Joe Burrow had a better running back for sure. And Clive Edward Telaire, I know that for sure.


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[Assistant] Uh, but man, there was a lot of talent there in Alabama.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, he's accurate. You know, I like, you know, he's got a pretty quick release. He does have a good arm. It's not like a great arm as we've talked about before.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he can put the ball on the money to where, you know, you give a receiver to catch a slant route and he doesn't have to gear down or stop or readjust his body to catch the football and do those types of things. Yes, but like.


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[Assistant] But like, Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow had good ball placement too. And a lot of other quarterbacks that I have in front of them have good ball placement too. Again, I have questions about Tua. He plays small. He played very small when the pocket collapsed. Uhm, he is injury prone.


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[Assistant] Okay, nobody's open or the protection's not perfect. What are you going to do? What are you going to make happen? Because that's life in the NFL except for like two or three quarterbacks who just have a perfect offensive line and have a great play caller who can get people open all the time.


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[Assistant] A lot of the times people aren't open and you're going to have trash all around you. And can you make that 20 yard in-cut throw with all that trash going on? And that to me was the biggest negative of Tua. He was not, you, you can't find too many plays where that actually happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when the pocket was clean and everything was good, whoa, he put the ball in the money and the guy could run and I'm not trying to take credit away from that, but.


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[Assistant] You know, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, other guys, I could see them make that same type of throw with people all around them and still throw with that type of accuracy. So life in the NFL, especially when you're a top five pick, is going to be making throws when things are less than or not perfect. And to me, that was one of my biggest concerns with Tua in general coming out in the draft process.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I had no problem, you know, saying too, it was certainly one of the 40 best quarterbacks in football. You know, the big thing when the draft was, you know, I know it ends up sounding like I ended up talking negative because I try to fight against all the normal BS positive points that are always thrown out there for him. A lot of people were high.


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[Assistant] Well yeah, I think I had him a spot higher coming into the year last year. You know, a lot of the big things too with, with Haskins is, you know, again, he's young, he doesn't have a lot of reps.


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[Assistant] I recognize, and I don't want to, I'm not trying to sit here and be a hater. You know, I liked Dwayne Haskins coming out in the draft. I did. I was a huge fan of him. I had him in the number three quarterback, you know, behind Murray and Drew Lock.


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[Assistant] But I made comparisons to, I said, man, his ceiling is like big bend to me with the way he can throw the football. But man, you know, the preseason was inconsistent.


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[Assistant] You know, the playing time in the regular season, especially the first few games, it was not good at all. It was not. And yes, just as things started to go in the right direction, he got hurt. So yeah, I just, my big thing with Haskins is I see the potential.


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[Assistant] Uh, I also see the rawness and the immaturity. Uh, I also see some things mechanically throwing the football that need to be cleaned up a little bit.


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[Assistant] But do I think that he could have a really good year this year and be one of the top 20 top, I do. I think he does have that type of talent.


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[Assistant] The lack of experience with immaturity.


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[Assistant] So I'm just not so sure what we have in Dwayne Haskins yet. That's my big thing. And, you know, again, this, this group of guys, 25 to 40, it is close. I mean, it's really close. We're splitting hairs when you get into this category.


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[Assistant] And again, I like Dwayne Haskins top end talent. I'm just not sure about what he is totally in the NFL yet.


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[Assistant] No, it's not terrible points. I'm not gonna disagree with a lot of what he said there. Now...


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[Assistant] You know, the touchdown interception ratio, things like that. Listen, I don't really care about that unless it's egregiously bad. He kind of feasted on the poor. I mean, go back and look at his stats from last year.


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[Assistant] He kinda took advantage of the bad defenses and the bad teams in football. When it became good teams and good defenses, man, he just doesn't make enough high level throws or make enough plays with his arm that way to warrant anything higher.


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[Assistant] You know, again, you know, Churbisky, inconsistent accuracy, really inconsistent decision maker.


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[Assistant] He's an athlete who plays quarterback rather than a quarterback who's a good athlete. You know, he's a little robotical that way. You know, yeah, I know he hurt his shoulder last year, but didn't scramble a lot, didn't make a lot of throws, scrambling, buying time that way. You know, so for all those things, I understand the Taysom Hill one's going to be, you know, people are going to question that. I get it.


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[Assistant] You know, I think Kasem Hill could have done every bit as good a job as Mitchell Trubisky last year, if not better. He's a better runner. He's a better thrower of the football. He just maybe hasn't played as much in the NFL, but all those, like the experience Trubisky has is not great enough for me to overcome the talent of what Kasem Hill had. And that's where I gave Kasem Hill the advantage.


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[Assistant] So we'll see where it goes. You know, there's a reason Sean Payton is like kind of pushing Drew Brees out the door and is like, Hey, this is your last year here. Cause he's got a guy that he's excited about. I mean, he tastes, I mean, Sean Payton, he's one of the greatest offensive minds in football the last 20 years.


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[Assistant] You know, you think there's a reason he likes Taysom Hill? Huh, let me think about it. Oh, because he thinks he can be good and run his offense at a really high level. The guy's got big time talent. I understand he needs to play more, but just from what I've seen in the preseason and what I've seen in the regular season, the last two years, things just keep going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] I mean, the quarterback play gets smoother, better, decision making, different types of throws. Sean Payton continues to trust him more and more in big moments. I think that tells you where he's at.


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[Assistant] Let them throw balls in the playoff game. Hey, Drew Brees, you're a first violin Hall of Famer. Come out for a few plays in this big wild card game the next, because we need to get Kacem Hill out there and get some plays with him. So he's a special, special talent.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, listen, this is, I know this is not gonna be perfect, uh, I get that, and, you know, again,


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[Assistant] People gotta take away team success from, from players at times and do all that. You know, uh, people thought I was crazy when I went Blake Bortles at 70. Here we are two years later, not even in the NFL. I doubt he'll be in the NFL. I'll be shocked if he gets signed by somebody. So, you know, again,


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[Assistant] You know, I just, I wish people, not that they have to trust me, but realize that I work hard and know and been around a lot and I'm not going to always be right, but I work hard and have a clue at least a lot of the time.


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[Assistant] I'll be shocked that he's not. That's what I'm going to say. And again, I understand people are going to sit there and go, he hasn't played or started an NFL game yet. I get that. I know.


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[Assistant] This guy was a first round talent in my opinion coming out of the draft two years ago. You know I liked him a lot. He killed it in the preseason last year.


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[Assistant] He absolutely, absolutely killed it. I mean, he's a good decision maker. He's a very good athlete. He can really make plays within the pocket, moving around, throwing the ball different ways.


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[Assistant] He's a pure thrower of the football. Like it's not a great, it's not a great arm. It's a real good arm. That's what it is. He certainly can make any throw and has a lot of different variety of throws.


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[Assistant] He can touch, throw the ball with touch, has timing, can drive the ball, has an aggressive frame of mind that I really like. Ahmed, he drops back and he's looking to strike. He's not looking to go, oh, let me throw a four yard completion and just get my completion percentage up and get us in second and sixth.


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[Assistant] Then I am if he ends up, you know, being not the quarterback after this year. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That, that's exactly what it is. It's the same thing with Drew Locke. You know, it's really the same thing with Dak Prescott.


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[Assistant] You know, I had this guy rated above Daniel Jones last year in the draft process. I thought, I said it all along, I thought Daniel Jones, I mean, I thought Jared Situm was a first round talent. I really did. And just like Drew Locke, you know, if he comes out the year before, like you're talking about his junior year, he's going to be a first round pick.


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[Assistant] I don't. I don't think there's any way, you know. They didn't know they were going to get Brian Hoyer in free agency. They weren't like sold on that. This was the plan.


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[Assistant] They knew this. Jared Stidham had already proved to them enough that he was capable of taking over the reign for Don Brady. You know, so this was the plan all along.


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[Assistant] And you know, that's the, you know, Rob Nickovich, I got a ton of respect for him and everything. But to me, that's just the easy way out or the easy thought. No one can wrap their head around that this was actually plan A for the New England Patriots going into the 2020 season. And you know, to throw that on there too, you know, first off, we know what Brian Hoyer is.


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[Assistant] Situm's more talented in every facet. Okay? Yes. And Brian Hoyer's not making my top 40 quarterbacks. He's not. I know what Brian Hoyer is, and he's not one of the top 40 in football. Jared Situm, talent-wise,


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[Assistant] Is another guy that I'd say has top 20 talent. We just gotta see him play and do it on the football field first. So yo, I, I, I don't agree with that. And also to this, you know, I'll throw this point at you.


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[Assistant] New England didn't win one game last year because of Tom Brady. Like, there's not one game you can go back and look at and go, man, if they didn't have Tom Brady, they wouldn't have won that game. You know? No, they won games last year because Brady was smart and took care of the ball. I'm not trying to discredit that.


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[Assistant] But they played a different style of football. They played through their defense. We knew that. The offense was struggling. They're gonna play through their defense again this year.


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[Assistant] You know, so they're not going to be asking Jared Stidham to be like Tom Brady of 2015 that drops back 45 times a game and throws the ball over the place. They're going to run the ball. They're going to have.


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[Assistant] So this is their guy, they're going to go with it. And if that fails, oh, we have old reliable behind them and Brian Hoyer. And then you bring them in. You don't bring Brian Hoyer in to be the starter. And then what? The Patriots start out four or five and oh, and they've won a bunch of games like 17 to 14 through their defense. And it's been ugly. And you're going,


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[Assistant] Damn, I mean, yeaah, they're winning, but you know, really, how high is the ceiling with a quarterback that's not big time? Is he going to help them get over the edge against better teams in football or a playoff time? No. So to me, you startstood them all the way, and I think that's their plan all the way.


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[Assistant] I love Tyrod Taylor in a lot of ways. I disrespected him last year and made him the 40th best quarterback. Tyrod Taylor, another guy that's got like, you know, hey, he's got his experience.


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[Assistant] You know, has big time talent. You know, I wish he'd let it just hang out a little bit more.


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[Assistant] You know, my big issue with Tyrod Taylor is he's too conservative. He leaves too many plays and yards on the field when he's the starting quarterback. That's why he, they got him out of Buffalo. That's why when he hurt his wrist in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield came in there right away. We were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.


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[Assistant] Because there's a lack of an aggressive mindset with Tyrod Taylor, and if he just was more aggressive that way, he'd be a starting quarterback for somebody already, and he wouldn't have to worry about that team drafting anybody or anything like that.


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[Assistant] But huge arm, Ahmed, huge arm. I mean, can launch it 60 yards off his back foot, can do anything that way.


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[Assistant] Can scramble and go get 30 yards on a run. Can scramble around behind the line of scrimmage and make plays that way.


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[Assistant] But it is ultimately the conservative nature, his inability at times to


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[Assistant] see down the middle of the field or his reluctance to throw the ball down the middle of the field is what has relegated him into this position already. So I really like Tyron Taylor. I think he could take the Los Angeles Chargers to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] You know? But, is that going to be enough?


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[Assistant] You know, if it's a 9 and 7, 10 and 6 year, oh, we got to the playoffs and lost to the wild card game, but the offense was kind of ehh, and the defense carried us, kind of like what happened in Buffalo, they're going to move to Justin Herbert. There's no doubt. If not sooner.


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[Assistant] But if he comes out and kind of lights the world on fire and puts up big numbers and is aggressive and things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, whether it's with the Chargers or somebody else, somebody else is going to have a chance to be a starter and be that guy. So to me, that's what keeping him at 34. Again, another guy I'd look at and go, there's a lot of talent there for him to be justified as a higher ranking than this.


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[Assistant] I need my dad to say something smart or stupid or whatever it is to clarify my thought. You know, same with my brother. So we don't need to hear about them with the top 40 and everything else.


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[Assistant] The new thing, the fourth and fifteenth proposal by the NFL, they're gonna take a vote on this, you know, uh, I think they're kinda doing it right now as we, as we talk.


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[Assistant] You know, what's, what's some of the, the positives, the negatives, just your thoughts in general about it?


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[Assistant] But I also don't want the team that dominated for 59 minutes to be cheated in a lot of ways, okay? And yes, I think that's why you table this discussion right now.


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[Assistant] Because there's a lot to talk and discuss that have and lots of unintended consequences. And I don't want to see them just, you know, this, this conversation just gained traction like 10 days ago.


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[Assistant] I'm sure a lot of owners and GMs haven't really put their brain around this yet. You know, we need to get some smart football people in the same room and have multiple hour long meetings of talking about certain scenarios of what does happen. And yeah, that's one scenario right there that


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[Assistant] You know, again, I don't know if that's right. Okay, there's one second left. Now you get to untimed down. Oh, Patrick Mahomes, they call that play in the Super Bowl. Two-Jet Wasp.


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[Assistant] Wow. Well, yeaah, I don't know if that's, that's, I don't think that's wrong because I can tell you from the Saints Falcons game and the Thanksgiving, there was two that were covered by the Atlanta Falcons late in the game. So, uh, it's very unlikely.


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[Assistant] That's okay, that's alright. I'm just telling you that one's wrong. Uh, but either way, the point is that there's a very low percentage chance of that happening. Here's another thing I wanna...


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[Assistant] Throw to my dad here, just on this fourth and fifteenth, one more question about it. Dad!


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[Assistant] If you're a team that has built yourself on defense.


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[Assistant] And running the football. Let's say you're the 49ers or the Baltimore Ravens. Do you want the fourth and 15 rule that


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[Assistant] You know, favors the teams like Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray who were built for that type of thing. You know, to me, that almost seems a little bit of a competitive advantage for the teams that are built one way as compared to maybe being built another way.


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[Assistant] A lot easier than baseball players, okay, with lack of finding a better way to say that.


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[Assistant] The other thing I think we've got to take into this conversation is, you know, the Major League Baseball career, on average, is just much longer than the NFL player career. So, a lot of these guys, especially the bottom end roster guys,


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[Assistant] Fine, more money than anybody in my family's ever made. Let's do it. Let alone, I think it's a bad look for baseball and baseball players. When we have 30 million people unemployed in the country right now, you know, people are taking peak pay cuts, people are going broke, and then here's a bunch of athletes who are going,


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[Assistant] Okay, I know I'm bagging on baseball players here a little bit, but I don't think that's going to be a good look for the sport. I don't think it's necessarily going to make more fans want to tune in to watch baseball and I think they better be careful for that.


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[Assistant] The, my criteria. I'm a head coach. I'm on the hot seat. I prioritized.


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[Assistant] If I'm a head coach too, I'm also going, man, do I really want my, my butts on the hot seat and I could be fired? Do I really want to go with James Winston to that year? No, he's not in the trust tree or the circle of trust in that way. So, you know, he's just, uh, too careless with the football, as you know.


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[Assistant] Do I think a guy like Sean Payton might be able to turn him around and change his aspect or how he looks at the game? Certainly. But, James Winston has big time talent. I think my father would agree. I mean, his good is as good as anybody in the game.


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[Assistant] The problem is, his dad is worse than the top 40 quarterbacks in football. When it's his dad and he's playing that way, you go, damn, is he, is he somewhere between 40 and 50? And that's not going to make any head coach feel warm and cozy about it.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that ultimately is why I have them at 33.


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[Assistant] That, that made all the points on that. He made them all. And, you know, the other thing to add to the context of that situation with the fumbles, too, a lot of the other quarterbacks you talked about this past year and things like that that are up in the league in fumbles, you know, they're, they're running the read option.


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[Assistant] You know, that's another reason you're seeing a lot of fumbles from that. Hey, it's not easy to sit there and put the ball in the running backs belly, have them grab it and then pull it out.


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[Assistant] But it is aggressive and Bruce Arians is almost ridiculously aggressive at times and his quarterbacks take a beating, which is going to lead to you holding the ball and fumble in that way. You know, and also, you know, I think why the marriage and dad likes the Sean Payton Jamies wants the marriage so much, you know, and I do too is,


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[Assistant] Well, like an aggressive quarterback with aggressive head coach, that could equal turnovers. Okay. And I think Jameis Winston is going to learn in a hurry. Like, Hey, I don't need to be Superman. I, Sean Payton is going to get me a lot of easy five and six yard completions where I won't even have to think or read a defense or do anything like that.


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[Assistant] So I think that's gonna take away a lot of turnovers right off the bat, right off the table there, uh, more than anything. But, you know, too, the reason we make a bigger deal about Jameis Winston than the other quarterbacks you talked about fumbling, cause a lot of Jameis's fumbles have been like,


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[Assistant] Whoa, that's dude, there's seven guys hanging on you and you have another guy jumping into your face and you're going to try to throw the ball down the field or they've happened in big moments of a game. And I think that's the difference between some of his turnovers compared to some of the other guys we're talking about.


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[Assistant] Yes, you know, Case Keenum, again, you know, he's one of those guys that...


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[Assistant] You know, just gets crapped on. Too much in my opinion. He's underrated. I know he doesn't.


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[Assistant] You know, have the Hollywood, you know, movie star good looks and he's not an Adonis when he walks into the room. He's not your prototypical, you know, franchise type quarterback. So people are always looking to replace them or move on or do anything like that.


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[Assistant] But as you see in my rankings, I think he's a low level starter or one of the best backups in football. You know, listen, I've seen the guy in person. One, TV doesn't do justice to his arm. The ball pops out of his arm. He's got better accuracy than people realize. You know, uh, two, he's a good athlete.


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[Assistant] So, you know, there's a lot of consistency and you know what you're going to get with Case Keenum. No, are you going to get superstar game changing plays? No, you're not. But I could tell you that when a guy's open, he's going to hit it. You know, when there's, when there's, you know, he's going to know how to read a defense and go through his progression.


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[Assistant] You know, and he's gonna make a play every now and then. It's not gonna be like superstar plays like we talked about, but...


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[Assistant] Along with some really good game experience to go along with that, which is the reason I have him in front of guys like Dwayne Haskins and things like that, who I recognize have a higher ceiling, but can't play the position of quarterback as good as he can quite yet.


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[Assistant] I do. You know, I think that's why he's there a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, a little bit to just put the pressure on Baker Mayfield. It's not gonna just be the red carpet and you could throw 20 interceptions and you'll still be our guy and all that. No! You know, Kate's Kingdom, first off.


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[Assistant] You know, he's really a poor man's Baker Mayfield. That's how I kind of look at him. You know, a little bit of an undersized quarterback who's a good athlete and got a good arm. Baker Mayfield, just a better athlete with a better arm. You know, but, uh, I, I, you know, if yes, if you're Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] You better be on your P's and Q's with a guy like Keenum behind you, because if you go through a stretch of three or four games and you only go one and four and you've thrown a bunch of interceptions, yeaah, Keenum's played well enough.


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[Assistant] Where, and he has a history with Kevin Stavansky, that Stavansky's gonna go, okay, you know, I'm into winning football games. I don't trust Baker Mayfield. Here comes Case Keenum. And you know too, Case Keenum, let's not forget, alright, you know, like the man that commented on my Dwayne Haskins rankings,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, not a lot of offensive talent like Randall last year in Washington. Even the year before that in Denver, it wasn't very good either. So, you know, you need a little support and help.


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[Assistant] To look good as a quarterback, and I think that's lacked a little bit there too, but without a doubt.


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[Assistant] One of the best backup quarterbacks in football, let alone you could argue that yes, he could be a low end starting quarterback in football. And he's a guy that I, I trust.


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[Assistant] I do. You give him a little support, he can win you football games. He's not gonna lose you many football games, he's not gonna do that. And, you know, unlike Tyrod Taylor, he's got a little bit more of a aggressive nature when it comes to throwing the football.


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[Assistant] And not that he's gonna carry teams, but...


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[Assistant] He's not afraid to make a few plays to help your team win the game. And if that means, damn, I threw an interception, okay, so be it. But he does go down swinging, which I give him respect for.


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[Assistant] Uhm, oh man, the guy that played for the Eagles a few years, Kevin Cobb.


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[Assistant] Alright, who is it? I don't want to delay forever. Kyle Allen. Oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, hey, there was an infusion of talent in the NFL this past year and some guys that were behind them certainly played well and jumped up. So, uh, yeah, listen, the one thing I know after doing this exercise, there's a lot of good quarterbacks in football, like a lot of them. And.


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[Assistant] Uhm, who else am I missing? I'm missing, oh, and Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks twice. Those are all guys that were on their rookie contracts that went deep into the playoffs or went to the Super Bowl. You know, so again,


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[Assistant] Nick Foles, Chicago Bears, yes. And because of my rankings and the fact that I got him at 31 and Mitchell Trubisky at 38, that tells you who I think is better and who should start. And that is Nick Foles, yes. You know, Nick Foles, again, poised, battle-tested, you know, always calm in pressure situations.


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[Assistant] Man, Ahmed, when you talk about pressure, the pocket collapsing, his ability to make those kind of throws with people around him.


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[Assistant] That is to me why he's a starting quarterback in football. Because it's a good arm. It's not special. It's probably, if you took the top 32 starting quarterbacks in football, he's definitely in the back half of that. Probably somewhere between 20 and 32.


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[Assistant] But because of that size and his ability to throw 25 and 30 yard footballs with very, with, with ease, with physical ease, cause he's got big hands and long arms and he's, you know, six, six and a half.


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[Assistant] You know, you're not, you're going to lose the running ability with Nick Pauls. You're not going to be able to do that once your Mitchell Trebisky can. But I think he can make a lot more high level consistent type throws compared to a Mitchell Trebisky and that's why I got him here at 31.


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[Assistant] I think he's gonna go week one and run with it unless he gets injured or something like that, but I do. You know, I, I just, again, I think.


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[Assistant] You know, again, and I think a Nick Foles, a guy that, you know, he's gonna walk in the locker room and guys are gonna go, damn, look at him. He's big. Whoa. He looks the part.


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[Assistant] And then I think when they see his ability to execute that off-end and


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[Assistant] You know, and, and, uh, I think, you know, the fact that he knows this offense and all of that.


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[Assistant] Specifically his throwing will separate him from Chubisky.


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[Assistant] He definitely made so many big throws in that game. I mean, just one after another where I kept going, okay, the Eagles are going to fold. Nick Foles is going to fold. This is going to be over. And he just kept going, wow, another completion. Whoa, big time throw, but.


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[Assistant] Nobody knew Chip Kelly's offense yet. So yea, Nick Foles had a good year, but it was an offense that caught the NFL by surprise too. And I think you can attribute some of the stats to that along with Nick Foles playing well. So again, I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but I do think the offense was,


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[Assistant] Well, he's coming up now that we know that. I mean, he's coming up at some point. It might not be, you know, on Monday's pro football talk show, but, uh, I'll say he's somewhere in the twenties. Okay. I'll let that one out. Big teaser there. Big teaser.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I want to be able to explain these to people and, and use my experience of being around the NFL and being around NFL quarterbacks my whole life to where my logic is and where I at them rank. I know I'm not always right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Chris, yeah, we do have, what is it, 26 through 23, your dad's coming on here, your quarterback rankings move on. But yeah, let's start with, uh, the topic that really dominated your show.


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[Assistant] Uh, with Mike the other day, you spent the entire two hours on it. Drew Brees, his interview with Yahoo Finance said that uh, quote, I will never agree with anyone disrespecting the flag of the United States of America.


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[Assistant] Several people came out against Drew Brees, including his teammate Malcolm Jenkins, who said, quote, those comments were extremely


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[Assistant] Self-centered. And then, uh, the next day, Drew Brees came out with an apology that I'm sure a lot of people out there have already seen.


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[Assistant] I did a podcast with Jack Collinsworth and Corey Robinson called All Things Social Activism the other day. That's on our YouTube page. You can certainly check that out. Chris, I know you talked for hours with Mike about this live on TV on NBCSN the other day as well. So we've, we've talked on this subject quite a bit already, but what would you just like to add here at the top of this podcast?