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[Assistant] We've heard this from local reporters and national reporters. Yeah. Can't remember who the national reporter was, said if you're trying to figure out what the Browns offense is going to look like next year, look to the Steelers game at the end of the season, when Deshaun threw it all over the yard. All, non-stop. Yeah.


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[Assistant] No, no, listen, not only is it not out of the realm of possibility, that is the expectation based on the price tag.


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[Assistant] Period. Like you can't start adjusting your expectations now based on last year's performance. You paid him to be an MVP. He's getting more money than any other player in the league. So you've got one expectation. Win an MVP.


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[Assistant] I like Ford guys. I really like Ford.


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[Assistant] No, but what we saw between returns and what little we saw in the regular season, and I know the competition is what it is, but the burst was there. The quickness and the urgency to hit the hole and run north and south was there. I like him a lot.


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[Assistant] Look, you were as critical as anyone last year on their offense, just on the sets and how boring it was. When you watched the Bengals and the Chiefs, they'd have three, four guys running wide open all over the field and we couldn't get one?


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[Assistant] In a vacuum, if you could take all the NFL fans and strip the colors and the logos off of the teams, everybody's wearing all white.


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[Assistant] And you get to watch. And the teams are labeled 1 through 32. They just have a number. And if you watched a full season.


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[Assistant] Nobody is going to say about the Browns. Oh, that's my team. That's the team I can get behind. I want to watch that. Everybody's going to say, Oh, give me Kansas City. Give me Cincinnati. Give me the home run and the flash and dash. Buffalo. And so that's what wins.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, very few fans would watch their style of football and say, that's my team. Right.


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[Assistant] We're blaming Mikey, even if it wasn't Mikey's fault, we're blaming him because we just, for three or four minutes, we debated a list of NFL general managers and about three or four minutes in, Mike goes, oh, that's my bad. That was a 2022 list. So he's just going to take this. He's going to take this one on the chin, whether he's right or wrong. It was Mikey's fault.


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[Assistant] I hope you're right, man. He looked like the old Josh Bell over the weekend.


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[Assistant] And he attributed that to just familiar surroundings. But you know, sometimes that's what it takes for a guy to bounce out of a slump. He was hitting 90 coming into the series. Now he's hitting 190. So he's definitely going in the right direction. Matt, we're sorry about the scheduling snafu. We got another guest in the pipeline for 1230, but we'll talk soon. Thanks brother.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. I mean, that's the hope anyhow with Josh Bell. If he ends up being more the guy we saw this weekend, this trade's worth every dollar of the 13 million that they'll pay him this year. But he's got to be consistent. By the way, I don't want to beat him up too much, but Zanino behind the plate has been well below average.


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[Assistant] I know he did. I always thought he was a solid defensive player. I never would have had him as a top tier catcher. But he's been below average. But he's hit. I know he is. That's why I don't want to kill him too much.


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[Assistant] You know what? We all get old. At what point it's different for everybody.


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[Assistant] That's a demanding position physically. It really is. And sometimes the break between October to March can feel like six years, not six months. And guys just get old. It happens to every single player. And that's a position more than maybe shortstop is another one where you can look and be like, wow, that happened fast.


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[Assistant] The decline is boom, rapid, and I'm not saying he's there, but he's been terrible blocking balls in the dirt. He has not been good throwing out runners. Now nobody has.


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[Assistant] Correct me if I'm wrong, and it wasn't, I know it wasn't Zanino that was catching, but in the eighth inning,


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[Assistant] The pass ball is what started everything, really. They had a runner on first, the pass ball, the runner went to second, base hit, hide, another hit.


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[Assistant] Get Brennan and Arias more at bats. We have flexibility to pinch hit for a catcher, but we haven't done that a ton.


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[Assistant] Hey, it's weird we got a guy from Pittsburgh on a Cleveland sports show. Are you okay with that?


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[Assistant] No, we hear you're a great guy. So we couldn't, we couldn't pass up the opportunity to have you. So tell us a little bit about where you are in your career. Obviously this league gives players a chance to try to flash their game and make it to the next level. Where are you in all of that? And what's, what are your hopes and dreams moving forward?


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[Assistant] And I'm going to say that the Browns were pretty thin at talent on the offensive line last year. So, you know. I'm right in their backyard. I'm right in their backyard.


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[Assistant] You would defect from Pittsburgh to come to Cleveland, no doubt.


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[Assistant] I've got one for you, then McNuggets, our producer is going to ask this, but I haven't seen your game, so I don't know that your game necessarily would remind me of this person, but your personality reminds me of someone that I covered once upon a time in the NFL, Warren Sapp. Was he one of your guys that you looked to?


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[Assistant] I worked in Tampa for five years, including the year they won the Super Bowl. And I know that was amazing. Warren was one of the absolute characters that I've ever covered in my life. And I think you're hitting a mark. You got a lot of Warren to you. Now our guy G Bush here does a mean Warren Sapp impersonation. I'm going to, I'm going to put him on the spot here. Look here.


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[Assistant] Hey listen, uhm, you will be coming to Canton, right? Because Canton's one of the spots that hosts the game.


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[Assistant] Like these bigger than life, like Elvis Presley. Like you're gonna fail. I know that guy won a lot of awards that played Elvis last year, but we all have that idea of it.


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[Assistant] Imagine that pitch to the studio. So I've got a screenplay. It's all about the deal that changed the face of pro sports apparel.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's gonna be called Air. It's all about the Air Jordan and Michael Jordan. Oh, who's gonna play Michael? Oh, no, no, no. Michael's not in the movie. That's the letdown to me.


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[Assistant] I wonder how it's doing. I didn't see any weekend numbers how it did at the box office. I'll keep an eye on it. Uh, McNuggets, what are we going to wrap up? Are you going to do the race report because Earl's not here?


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[Assistant] Uh, I did, uhm, the Kent State football and basketball coaches.


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[Assistant] Both great guys, great guys. Senderov has had a lot of success there. But the new coach comes from Minnesota, and he was previously at Western.


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[Assistant] I walked in and I'm like, what is, I didn't even know what to expect. I really didn't. I had no expectations, but I was blown away.


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[Assistant] They, you know, they travel the circuit. They know where the big card shows are. And, you know, this one's been around for a number of years now. I had no idea how big it was. It's a big business. It's become huge. Oh my God. I took my Jordan rookie there. There was a guy there who doesn't grade cards, but he'll be the middleman between you and PSA, which is,


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[Assistant] But I can tell you that for it to be a 10, it's got to have crisp corners, straight lines, everything has to be perfect. I don't see anything that would deduct from this card. So I was like, okay, I'm going to get it judged in Chicago this summer because that's where the big, the national card show is there. But there were guys there that were selling


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[Assistant] Everything. I saw another guy that had a Jordan rookie there. It wasn't a 10. He was selling that one for $4,000 and it was like...


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[Assistant] He did a great job. He's very good. We've had his work on the show before. He's very good. Hey, we gotta do the race report before we say goodbye.


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[Assistant] Well, no, you know what? I don't know this. This is what I'm looking at it. You are building a Cleveland media empire. Yeah. And it's through a lot of different pieces. I like that. And the puzzle is coming together. I like that. I love it. I think that was his inspiration.


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[Assistant] It depends on the socioeconomic or the profile of the individuals and how you experience the police.


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[Assistant] I certainly believe it. There is an expectation that the police are going to crack down on the level of murders, the violence, the robberies that are taking place.


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[Assistant] It's significantly bigger than I thought. According to Forbes.


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[Assistant] He's rocking with the Angels, straight up on the money line, slight favorites on the road at the Red Sox. Bull is rocking with the Angels, looking to go 3-0.


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[Assistant] I have, they've lost two, or the A's have...


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[Assistant] Covered one and a half runs two games in a row, but overall I'm still up $27 and so far in the season, if I count the record, I'm one, two, three, four, five, six, nine and four on the year. Wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he ended up winning like five and a half grand. Now you bet $100 per game. I'm just going 10 because I work in media, so. That's fine.


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[Assistant] No, no, but I'm saying, so Brad's right in the sense that defense today is not defense, then you're also right that even in today's NBA,


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[Assistant] Golden State in the regular season averaged 111 points per game in the finals against Boston, which they won. They averaged 103. Boston averaged 111 points in the regular season. They averaged 99.9 points. So down almost 10 points for both.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and now granted they each had one terrible shooting game. Golden State only scored, uh...


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna talk about the other playoff series in a sec, but first we took a little poll on who


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[Assistant] Are hiring for all positions starting at $18 and up, plus full benefit packages, paid time off, and deciding bonus. You can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. We put a poll up on YouTube here.


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[Assistant] We got 626 votes. Biggest poll maybe we've ever done. 96% are picking the cat.


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[Assistant] 90, I'm not kidding. Anthony, with my witness, can see 96%. Can confirm, 96%.


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[Assistant] I do want to read one quote. This is my favorite comics. We asked-


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[Assistant] Cavs in seven, but also possibly a sweep. So that-


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[Assistant] How many players on the Thunder average more than 5 rebounds per game?


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[Assistant] Could you imagine the NBA? Both LA teams. Not, well not just that.


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[Assistant] Not wanting a LeBron Steff second round playoff series. If the Lakers beat the Grizzlies and the Warriors beat the Kings, we have LeBron Steff round two. It's bankable money. Put two and two together.


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[Assistant] After the Cavs game on Saturday, we are doing a live Cavs post-game show, so make sure you tune in with myself, Anthony, and Earl. We'll be recapping the game live as it wraps up, going about an hour afterwards.


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[Assistant] And also, if you need a snack to watch during the game, well, go buy some Bilt bars. What are you waiting for? Use promo code LOCKDOWN15. 15% off at Bilt.com. I promise you, it will keep you full throughout the game. We should send a box of those to the calves, by the way.


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[Assistant] As I was making graphics this week, just preparing for the playoffs and stuff, this is not a better or worse than this was just some interesting stats I saw that I thought, if you took the name off,


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[Assistant] Who would you think had a better season? Than any other context. Let's just play your A vs. play your B. Okay.


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[Assistant] Exactly, and then you're gonna take either player A or player B, we'll show you who they are. This is not saying anyone's better or worse, just stats I thought were pretty comparable that, uh, I thought were interesting. So, let's have a little fun with this. Let's take the first one, Steve.


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[Assistant] You have player A who averaged 14.3 points, 9.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.2 blocks, or player B, 14.8 points, 9 rebounds, 3.9 assists, or 1 block. Who would you take in this scenario? Player A or player B?


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[Assistant] Take out who you think it is or not, but just, you still would take A?


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[Assistant] Player A was Jared Allen. Player 2 was Alpern Sengoon of Arrakis.


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[Assistant] This is just some comparable stats I thought were interesting. I never would have guessed, ever in a million years, that that was who that was. Alright, number two. Let's take it, Steve.


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[Assistant] Player A averaged 12.1 points, 3.8 rebounds, 3.9 assists, and had a 12.4 PER this year, while Player B averaged slightly less points, 11.4, more assists at 5.2, and a higher PER, 13.6.


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[Assistant] Okay. Real quick, we got three more, but first, it is 12 o'clock, which means it is time to remind everybody that the Lunch Hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] We're gonna pull up the next one. I got some additional context of these stats here. Steve, you can take the graphic full when you want.


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[Assistant] Player A here, averaged 15.1 points, 9.6 rebounds, half a block, had a 50% field goal percentage, 30% from three, he shot four threes per game.


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[Assistant] As opposed to player B, 16.2 points, 9 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 55-21 split, he shot fewer than 1 attempt per 3. So player A, a 3 point shooter, and relatively efficient, player B not. Who are you taking?


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[Assistant] This one was the best one. Take it Steve. How about Bobby Portis or Stephen Mobley? Would you ever expect that?


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[Assistant] We got two more. Okay. Let's take the next one, Steve. Player A averaged 28 points per game, four rebounds, four assists.


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[Assistant] 48% from the floor, 38% from three. He attempted nine threes a game, had a PER of 23 and a 33.3% usage rate.


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[Assistant] Once again, context, Utah. I know, I know.


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[Assistant] And the last one, player A averaged 23.3 points, 6.4 rebounds, 8.4 assists, but was very inefficient from the floor. Player B, 21.6, 2.7, 7.8, a little more efficient, slightly higher PER. They both played almost identical minutes per game, so there's no finagling.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, we're gonna pivot to a little Browns talk, and as always, Browns talk is sponsored by Lincoln Electric. We got some good Browns topics to get to today. Lincoln Electric, the leading manufacturer in welding and electricity making facets. They are hiring for all great jobs. Check them out. Lincoln Electric. Jay, you wanna take this one away? Yeah.


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[Assistant] What do you think the Browns would be priced at right now?


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[Assistant] Okay, Mike. According to Forbes, they are evaluated at 3.85 billion. It is 1230, which means it is time to remind you all that the Lunch Hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored


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[Assistant] Bye colleague racing, the official NASCAR sponsor of Northeast Ohio. We are doing a Cavs post game show.


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[Assistant] And there's also a special membership perk that I wanna tell you guys about. For $1.99 a month, it gets you into the starters tier. It gets you those loyalty badges, custom emotes, member only community posts. For $4.99 a month, you get overtime videos, that's daily extra content, all those same starter tier perks, member shoutouts, discount codes for merch. We posted the link.


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[Assistant] Interactive, yes it is. You have to be a coaches tier member to get it. You can only be a coaches tier. Go to the YouTube community tab to get that exclusive code. Jason Lloyd, the smartest basketball guy we know will be texting back and forth. Suck a little guardians real quick. They're starting a three game set with the Nationals today.


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[Assistant] After a tough matchup with the Yankees, Jay, what do you need to see from the Guardians to kind of wake the ship here?


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[Assistant] I have to stop you for one sec about the race. I just saw this numbers. It says, blow me. What they're doing is never happening.


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[Assistant] Okay, but here, you ready for this? The two teams that are dead last in baseball and home runs, the Guardians and the Nationals. So if you're expecting home runs, don't expect it. Six for the Guardians, that is 29th in baseball. Five for the Nationals, 30th in baseball.


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[Assistant] How many home runs do you think the Rays have through 13 games this year? I'd say 12. G? Cause they're not a home run hitting team either.


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[Assistant] What's, what's Yandy Diaz's home run totals by year? I got you. First though, I want to remind everybody the lunch hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored by Call of Gracie and the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. Yandy Diaz is listed on baseballreference.com as 6'3", 220 pounds. He's massive.


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[Assistant] In 2018, in 39 games he had 1 homerun. Then he goes to Tampa Bay. In 79 games he had 19 homeruns. The following year he had 2.


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[Assistant] In 2021, he had 13. Last season, 137 games, he had 9. And this year in 11 games, he has 4.


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[Assistant] And speaking of pitching, we've got five minutes left in the guardians before we have to do a USFL segment.


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[Assistant] Jay, we talked in the gym the other day about the new pitch clock, Savalli's on the IL, McKenzie's on the IL. Across the league, up. Pitching injuries are slightly up from last year. We had Bull on earlier this week. Bull said he doesn't believe there's enough evidence to actually tie the two together. You disagree.


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[Assistant] Your colleague racing report, I wish Earl was here for this because I don't believe this is a real race, but I double checked, I triple checked. The Xfinity series is in Martinsville this weekend for the call811.combeforeyadig.com500, which once again does not sound real to me. I double checked on two different websites. It says that is the official


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[Assistant] Couple of us will be in independence for the Great Lakes Collector's Convention card show. Check it out!


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[Assistant] 50,000 square feet of ball card bliss, hundreds of display tables, card shop live theater with interactive appearances from some of the region's most notable sports media members. Jay, you're going Saturday, I believe? I think it's Saturday, yea. Jason's gonna join us on Sunday. I'll be there with G. Bush Bull and Jonathan Peterlin from the radio station. Great cards, great location, great show. Tickets are on sale at greeniesportscards.com.


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[Assistant] So uh, he's not signing my rookies. I love you guys, but the USFL paid for 10 minutes today and you guys went long. So we're going to get on the best six minutes that they ever had in pretending it's 10 minutes. So usually the USFL pick up our pace will be.


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[Assistant] Is coming to Canton on Sunday, April 23rd. The season is back. It will be past the 23rd, but that is the first game. Come celebrate pro football with free t-shirts and rally towels for the entire family. Great seats start at $10. Buy your tickets today at usfl.com. We will start getting guests hopefully as soon as Monday.


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[Assistant] They are sponsoring a segment we're calling King of the Land. We played the Stinger. You guys talked through it about Jordan's rookie card. So thanks for uh, Roman Stinger on that. But the point of the segment is to fix sports and we've done this kind of before. Okay. And it's ironic that how I wanted to fix something today, there's a little breaking news that goes along with it. The Dallas Mavericks in the last 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] It is. It's an issue. So what do you have to do? And they've done some things to kind of quash it. There's not one team that has predominant odds, but here's how I think they really should fix it.


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[Assistant] The six teams, or the eight teams, excuse me, the eight bottom teams in the league. When the playoffs start.


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[Assistant] They go in their own lottery tournament. And the last eight teams play each other.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the last eight teams go in this tournament, and you have to win the tournament to get the first pick, which incentivizes star players to play. So like this year for the Portland Trail Blazers, they shut Damon Willard down for the last ten games of the season. Yeah, that'll never happen.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'm saying. I'll use Dane Willard as the example here. Dane, they said about the last nine games. That's fine. You can still do that. You're in this tournament. Yeah. Then you got to get Dane to rev back up and play again because if the trailblazers want the first overall pick a chance to draft one Bonyama, they've got to win. The losers win this 18 tournament.


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[Assistant] Well, 8 in each conference make it. 12. No, 14.


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[Assistant] So I wasn't surprised they lost game one, honestly. Other than Donovan Mitchell, and then technically Danny Green, who didn't play in game one, there's not a lot of playoff experience on this Cavs roster.


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[Assistant] They were saying all the right things, saying like, we're not going to be too caught up in the moment. It's not going to be too much, but.


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[Assistant] You gotta experience it to actually fully understand it. And that was a little bit of that trial by fire for Darius Garland.


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[Assistant] Karras Levert, Isaac O'Coro, Jared Allen, Evan Mobley. You can go down the list. Allen had played in the playoff before. Allen and Levert had played before, but like, not a lot, not a lot. So it's just the expectations. You're one of the top dogs in the Eastern Conference. You want to prove you belong. You have a team in New York that you struggled with all regular season long.


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[Assistant] And it felt like a bit of a feeling out process, but more than anything, New York just kind of hit in with a level of physicality in game one that they just weren't ready for.


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[Assistant] And you saw, at least after the end of the game, like Darius Garland won on the podium, Jimmy Bickerstaff won on the podium, they were both super calm, they didn't seem stressed or pressed, which


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[Assistant] It's a sign of that growth in maturity from last season when they seemed like they were really pressing during the play-in tournament, but...


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[Assistant] There's like, everything's gonna be okay, but we just gotta match that physicality from the opening tip and just show that, hey, this is our home court, we're not gonna lay down, we're not gonna get bullied by you guys, and you saw it, maybe...


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[Assistant] After the first couple minutes in game two, but Cleveland really hit New York in the mouth and they would not let up all throughout the game and they just kept hitting them and hitting them and hitting them and...


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[Assistant] It's a luxury. Donovan Mitchell doesn't need to score all night long because you have Darius Garland stepping up to the plate, which I kind of expected just because he's a big time player. Right.


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[Assistant] As soon as he's comfortable, he's going to feel a lot better out there. Then Levert just benefits from those two.


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[Assistant] Awesome on defense. They kept the Knicks from crashing the offensive glass a lot more. You could see the JD.


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[Assistant] Made a lot of smart decisions to adjust things and just kind of hit the right buttons and they found a way to tie it up 1-1 so they had to feel good about their chances heading into the garden. You know, it's a lot better than being down 0-2.


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[Assistant] I agree with you, I don't think there's much of an issue with the officiating. If you look at the free throw disparity, New York shot more free throws in game two and the Cavs still blew them out of the water. And Garland, Biggersteff, Mitchell, whoever's talked to the media at this point has just said


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[Assistant] They're letting us play. We kinda have an understanding of like, okay, the refs are gonna kinda be a little hands off with us on this one. That's the difference between the regular season and the playoffs. And now we gotta figure out how physical are we allowed to be before the refs start blowing our whistles at that point. So they find that balance and they worked it out.


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[Assistant] It worked in game two at that point, so it just, yeaah, figured it out. I don't think the officiating is that bad, but...


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[Assistant] It just hasn't translated, and I think if you just look at how this offense works, if he's the fifth banana on offense and he's giving you 8 to 10, that's great, but the shot's not falling.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit dicier, especially in a playoff series like this, but Karis Levert started the season as a starting three.


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[Assistant] Went to JB and said, Hey, I'm not getting enough shot opportunities. I'm kind of muddying things up with Donovan and DG. So he asked JB to go to the bench and then they tried Dean Wade for a bit and then Isaac's just been the guy since then. So if you're looking at this playoff series.


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[Assistant] I'm curious to see if JB makes a change going into game three just because of how effective Karis was in game two. And then just Isaac only played three minutes after picking up those two fouls. And you look at that, but...


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[Assistant] Karras functions better as that sixth man for the team. If you get him rolling against a bench unit, and to your point, you guys were talking about it before,


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter if you start as long as you finish, and more often than not, Karas is finishing games for the Cavs. He averages more minutes than...


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[Assistant] Some of the starters in most games too, just because he's that dude and if you get him rolling with the bench squad and then let's say Darius and Donovan are getting a bunch of defensive attention in game three.


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[Assistant] Levert's just going to benefit from that because there's no defensive pressure on him at that point, so.


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[Assistant] I think there is reason to be concerned about Ikora. I don't think you pulled a plug on him just because he's your best point of attack defender and he's a dude you can just throw at Jalen Brunson and make Brunson uncomfortable right away.


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[Assistant] Maybe you just don't play him 30-35 minutes because you can't expect him to be making those clutch time big time shots for you down the stretch.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's a good question because Danny Green does give you a lot of those things, but he just hasn't played a lot with those guys. And maybe there's just like the unfamiliarity. So there's like just the chemistry issues we're trying to work out and figure out in real time. And Green hasn't played real minutes until maybe the last few games of the regular season. And then last night,


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[Assistant] Uh, Chris Feudor noted that the plan was to give Danny more minutes in this game, but


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[Assistant] He came in, he played about 23 minutes, I wanna say, and he played well, he only made one 3-pointer, but he mostly played good defense, and he did what you want him to do, so...


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[Assistant] To your point, you could start him over Isaac, but you keep that steady rotation maybe between him, Akoro, Jettie Osmond just being another 3-point shooting wing, and then if you're JB, you just ride the pulse of who's hottest in that game and you just stick with it, cause that's, at least that's what JB said post-game after game 2, the decision to keep with Karis for most of the game was,


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[Assistant] Garrus was feeling it, and he's like, I'm not gonna mess up a good thing, just roll with it, and it led to a win, so.


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[Assistant] It's tricky, since ACLs are just such a hard thing to come back from. This is the second time he's torn that ACL. And it's just an unprecedented situation before they get Donovan. The expectation is, okay, the guard situation is going to be, well, Colin Sexton at the time, Darius Garland, Keris LaVert, with Ricky Rubio being that backup point guard.


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[Assistant] Now that Donovan has really showed that he can play point, and that Karis is just kind of...


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[Assistant] Gelled really well in this three guard set they have, like the need for Rubio isn't as much, but you look at how he looked in game one.


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[Assistant] The offense got wrecked, they just looked really disheveled, looked out of place, and York took advantage of the fact that maybe Rubio's a step slow at times.


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[Assistant] And I wrote about it and just said like, I think the Cavs just need to pull the plug on the situation for now and just add shooting, add wing depth, because they have enough guard creation between Mitchell and Garland just to make it work. And to your point,


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[Assistant] But again, you found something that worked in game 2, you work with it, and if it doesn't work in game 3, you obviously make adjustments at that point.


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[Assistant] You look ahead to next year, Rubio's on contract for next season and the year after that. You hope at that point he's a lot more healthy and he's just maybe


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[Assistant] They signed Ricky Ruby before they had Donovan Mitchell, and I think now that you have Donovan Mitchell, you're like, we don't need Ricky Ruby as much as we originally did.


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[Assistant] Evan, you got any lines from surgery? I, uh, I got knee surgery my freshman year. Alright, I got one. My Achilles tendon.


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[Assistant] I don't think you can afford to go shorter than seven at this point just because you don't want to gas out your core four guys and then...


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[Assistant] To your point, they went with 7 in game 1 as well, because he pulled the plug on Rubio and weighed at 1.2. It was just Levert and Nakoro just kind of soaking up those 5, 6, 7 man minutes at that point, so.


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[Assistant] I just don't think you can afford to because New York has a lot of depth, they have a pretty good bench. You know, I know Josh Hart isn't 100%, I know Julius Reynold isn't 100%, I know Jalen Brunson's still dealing with some dumb issues too, but like,


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[Assistant] New York has the legs and they have the ability to run and get out on a fast break. And if they're playing at home, they're going to be feeling themselves a lot more, so.


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[Assistant] You might want to just keep that seven man rotation if you can find an opportunity to play eight guys. Great, but you don't want to burn your guys out because it's a seven game series. It's not like...


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[Assistant] Okay, whoever wins this next game, it's over, so you just gotta be mindful of that fact, and like, eh, play 6-7 guys in game 3, and then you look at it at game 4, and it's-


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[Assistant] To your guys point, you just try to split that series in New York so you can come back to Cleveland. Try and win five and then lock it up and maybe six or seven at that point. You want to run your guys into the ground getting there.


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[Assistant] I mean ideally you want to win both games. I think if a team says we're only going out there to win one, it's probably a fireball offense if you're a coach. Right.


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[Assistant] Ideally you win one game, cause you already got one game back in Cleveland. You secured that last night.


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[Assistant] One game or a game in New York, you're guaranteeing yourself a little bit more breathing room. Let's say you win game three. Game four, there's way less pressure to perform. And then if you can win in four, awesome. You can come home in five and take care of business. Cause that means the Knicks are just really rattled at that point.


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[Assistant] If you can take care of business in three and let's say you drop the matinee game on Sunday, not a huge deal. You come back on Wednesday, take care of business and then.


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[Assistant] I believe they go back to New York at that point, and if you can close it out there, because you already won there once, it's a little bit easier to work with. And then also,


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[Assistant] If that doesn't happen, you at least have game 7 in your back pocket too.


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[Assistant] So I'm really surprised. The Knicks found a ton of success in game one, just trapping and pressuring Darius Garland the moment he crossed the timeline and then...


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[Assistant] Garland gets flustered when they do that and they kept denying Donovan Mitchell the ball because it's like that's Garland's safety blanket when that stuff happens. They went away from that in game two.


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[Assistant] Like, I noticed, like, what are the Knicks doing? Like, that was their formula for success, and they're banning it, and I wonder...


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[Assistant] If it's Cleveland just hitting them with so much physicality that they were rattled and they couldn't like really get set, but maybe if you're able to find steady legs at home and just


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[Assistant] Keep daring Darius Garland performing. I know that's a risky gamble.


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[Assistant] Darius Carlin's a big time player and he really showed it in game 2 and then ditto for Donovan Mitchell, but...


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[Assistant] What was your prediction for the series before it started? I had Cavs and Six. And what do you have now? I still think it's gonna be Cavs and Six and the...


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[Assistant] Win, obviously I have to win on the road in the Garden in game 6, but I have a feeling just there's so much momentum heading into game 3.


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[Assistant] And they have found some things that work. And I do wonder if Thibodeau makes enough adjustments because it feels like Donovan Mitchell is starting to figure out how they're playing them on defense. And it's encouraging because he's in Darius Garland's here constantly saying like, this is what they're doing, I want you to do this, like hey, just ignore me, just go.


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[Assistant] And like, he's empowering his teammates instead of just saying, I'm gonna be the dude and carry you there, which is encouraging enough, but...


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[Assistant] There's enough of that just momentum heading into game three that you're like, yeah, you feel good about their chances that they could maybe steal the show on Friday night in the garden and then...


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[Assistant] So I have been asking you questions the whole time and I thought I'd give you a chance so you could ask me questions.


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[Assistant] Hah. Hah. Hah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it spawned a conversation. We were just sitting there talking. Like, I was like, listen, we're not going to be in space like that. Like, what's the name setter, the best setter, the entertainer?


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[Assistant] Listen, we don't go to space and go places until the white people go. When y'all go and y'all figure out the Mars and all that.


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[Assistant] That, that, that, yeah, what he said, uh, first energy stadium. Hey, uh, so.


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[Assistant] So maybe, listen, maybe this means if the Bengals get one, I'll see how much taxpayer dollars they get. Maybe the Browns will switch it up.


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[Assistant] Well, they've been doing a big dig in Boston for 50 years, right? Is it over? I mean, it was, they started in the early 90s and it's 2020-23 and they just finished. My thing is,


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[Assistant] To move all of that, that sound nice and good. You talk about rerouting the whole, the whole highway.


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[Assistant] Dog, they can't even get 77 together. They still got constructional 77 every five feet. My thing is, uhm, they need, we just talked about Taylor Swift. You're not getting that. We don't get no WrestleMania. We not getting none of the big tractor pool stuff. We not doing no rodeos. We can't get none of that stuff.


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[Assistant] And we use the stadium for what? Four or five weeks out of the year? That's dumb.


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[Assistant] He said, listen, he said, you would, you say you could have left the money handed to his dopey son-in-law. You should have, he could, you're like, listen, just, you could have stepped out of basketball. You just gave that'd be funny. You mean you just gave somebody like a billion dollars. Like you, how much does a dome cost to fit two, three,


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[Assistant] I have no idea. A billion dollars for just a roof? Spend other people's money as always.


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[Assistant] You gotta think about it. There is no incentive for him to do like,


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[Assistant] Do you, like, do you see, like, this is all, this whole entire outfit is furnished by me, right?


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[Assistant] The Browns have been terrible forever. You know how many people out there, like me, that's even worse? There's no incentive to do nothing crazy over the top. People gonna show up and we gonna talk about the Browns and Perry on Winfrey.


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[Assistant] I just did a blog on Locked On Brown's podcast, go subscribe to that by the way. Uhm, they can't wait on him. They can't, like, I don't have any expectation level for him because this is like, uhm, this is a situation where you talked about it before, when people go to the combine and be out of shape, go to the combine, fail a weed test.


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[Assistant] You knew this was coming, but you didn't do it. If your pair went for you, you watched them sign veteran after veteran. They go a different route in trying to bring in other guys on the defensive line to get it better. You guys had an opportunity to do it last year. You didn't make your mark last year.


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[Assistant] The writing's on the wall. They saying like, look, we gotta get guys in here that's ready to play.


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[Assistant] You had some issues last year with Miles Garrett, people just saying, hey, you're a little immature, you need to learn how to be a pro. And I don't know what's going on with the, who you put hands on or how it even went down. Sometimes,


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[Assistant] I got an issue with people just being at the, out doing stuff. At some point in time, like my mom, my dad, my family want me to come do something. Sometimes it's like, no, I ain't going to do nothing. You know what I'm doing?


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[Assistant] I ain't having no cookouts. I ain't having no family reunions. I'm not going to the corner store. I'm going to be here watching film, lifting these weights in my house by myself.


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[Assistant] Because I need to get my mind together because I got an opportunity to do something. And specially...


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[Assistant] When Jim Schwartz is a new coach, when you got a new coach, you got an opportunity to make yourself be known, like, ay.


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[Assistant] I'm in here doing my thing, I can get a starting position. Now the new coach is looking at you like, bro, you, I ain't even had no conversations with you. And now you do, nah, they can't wait on him. We'll see what they do in the off season, but I wouldn't be surprised that he might get cut. What about you, Jason?


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[Assistant] I like calling him up on the phone and say, look man.


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[Assistant] Um, zero tolerance. Yeah, that's it. If, if the cafeteria lady say you looked at her crazy. That's right. Bye. If you get a speeding ticket, peace out. Yes. If you miss practice, you forget to have your cleats on.


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[Assistant] And so he, here's the thing about it, it's difficult, like, and think about it, we're not asking, like, this is, this is not something we ain't saying. If tomorrow Deshaun Watson, everybody in this, in the room right now say, if Deshaun Watson had any new allegations, what would you say?


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[Assistant] Hey, I can't do it no more, bro. If he had today, new stuff, right? So, Deshaun Watson is on zero. You're like, I don't know about that. I don't, 230 carry T. No, no, I'm talking about in terms of the league.


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[Assistant] He would have a problem. They would try to put him underneath the jail. So, no. You don't have a zero degree. And here's the thing. I don't even know if he's that good.


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[Assistant] USFL, baby. It's back. Do we know if the USFL is better than your own?


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[Assistant] Uh, XFL yet? Don't know. I guess we'll find out. We'll find out. We'll find out. McNuggets sold 35,000 in St. Louis.


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[Assistant] So you're saying the best 1A's. That's what you're looking for. Basically.


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[Assistant] Hey, listen, that DPJ boy, that boy. Hey, you talk about the people's ship. DPJ can do no


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[Assistant] Hold on, this is a decent question. How did I go in my head and I think about it?


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[Assistant] If you, if you get either one of them or you go be mad. No. It's like, it's a, it's a clean.


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[Assistant] Man, those are the three best.


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[Assistant] They got AJ Brown and they got Duvante Smith and he get a hundred catches and they, and they got, they're a running team.


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[Assistant] I don't, man, they, see that's why, that's why when I always go back and not just eat, when I go back and watch the Browns.


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[Assistant] I just, sometimes we get into the, is it this or that? And I'm like, no, you gotta be just good everywhere. Like, you have to run the ball, you have to, the quarterback has to be good, you gotta have receivers, you gotta have tight ends.


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[Assistant] Tyreek Hill, I th- I think he ha- how many yards he have? Oh!


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[Assistant] Like, Tua was out of a lot of games, like, and that's tough. And their quarterback is not as good, even when he is not injured. That is tough. That's fair. I would, I would, I would probably, I would lean.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I see Jamar Chase do some crazy stuff. Uhm, I'd probably lean towards the Dolphins, but once again, I couldn't be mad because Jamar Chase is that good. He's a better player to me than Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] So what you're saying, he got an elite number two status.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would put them, like, because there's only a couple receivers, like, well,


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[Assistant] I would say, what's the name, the other Eagles receiver, uh, AJ Brown. AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] If you lined him up with the receivers, I mean, he's old. If you lined him up with the receivers, I would argue he would be a top 10 target. If he was, if you just said, hey, there's Kessel, no doubt.


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[Assistant] Well, now I guess he counts as a, if you were to ask somebody, will Odell Beckham Jr. be a number one receiver anymore? And guess what? You get paid like, well, I mean.


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[Assistant] But Logan, Logan Anderson, Deebo only ones a Deebo. We've definitely forgetting him. Kenny Miller, Deebo. It sounds like I'm talking about a Friday movie. So many Deebo's in here. Yeah, right. Whoa, a Damond and Marcel. I don't know DJ Moore.


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[Assistant] I have a friend who's a mean drunk. I won't say who it is.


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[Assistant] Nah, I'm not gonna say that. See, back in the day, my drunk was, like, if I got drunk,


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[Assistant] Throw all you in there to see if these kids, these party kids would do Facebook. Yeah. And so it was like networking. So we just put drunk pictures of you doing dumb stuff out. So what we used to always do, Facebook was like a cross reference. So you used to go meet a person.


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[Assistant] And I was just like, under what, under, we had to start thinking about it. They were like, black people only constitute 11% of the population in the United States. What do you mean it's a black planet? Like, that's not a thing. Then everybody just got on Facebook and it was over.


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[Assistant] It's not even close. Not even Mitchell's 7th in scoring, right? Yea, SGA is higher. Listen, the more points that dude over there getting, bro, you in the 10th.


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[Assistant] They in a 10th slot. I'm not about to put nobody in 10th anything. But it's an individual award. Nah man, we not about to do that. If it's individual, you gotta think about it like this. Donovan Mitchell took a team in the Cavs that lost in the play-in and elevated them to the number one defensive team. He's on that team. And on top of that,


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[Assistant] He got them the fourth seed, first round in the playoffs home field of open court advantage. We haven't seen, and I stand by it. You can't point to me another player who's had a better season than Donovan Mitchell, not named LeBron James. It's not possible. And the fact of this, this man, Kobe Bryant.


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[Assistant] He had 70. Didn't he, didn't he started, think about this. He started running off.


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[Assistant] 40 back to back to back. Like I don't know how many games he had 40 this year. What? 20? 20? 13? That's crazy. This dude, the dude, he, listen, he transformed. And first of all, and then, not first of all, but last of all, the thing that's so impressive about it is this. If you look at Darius Garland's number, they ain't even went nowhere. You could argue they going up. He's still averaging about 22 and eight.


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[Assistant] You look at Mowbring's numbers, they went up. And Donovan Mitchell not only was here only one year, but he's having the best


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[Assistant] It's difficult to kind of just diminish what other people is doing around the league. I just, I just feel like, when we look back at this,


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[Assistant] And we look at like Lebron and Kyrie and some of the great teams in the 80s with the Cavs. I think we not, we'll get an opportunity.


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[Assistant] We gonna go back and then look at the regular season and say, wow. Yeah, that he was. Meanwhile, the opposite if they were


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[Assistant] That's crazy. When it comes to voting. You know, and think about it.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Lakers, they got AD in, in, in LeBron, like.


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[Assistant] It's something to be said for coming up and being a fourth seed in the East when you got the three favorites in the East. You got Dallas, you got, excuse me, Milwaukee, uh, Philadelphia and Boston, those guys.


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[Assistant] And they got great players on each of those teams and for the Cavs to be there and to sustain throughout and then to be at a position where it was no doubt. We was thinking, I was thinking they were going to take a step back.


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[Assistant] I don't like his game. No, the dribble, I just hate it. It's the word, the dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, hesitate dribble, throw my arms through your arms. Yeah, he's hard to watch. It's just, that ain't, that ain't basketball.


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[Assistant] How big of an upset would it be if the Cavs


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[Assistant] And we're getting ahead of ourselves here. We understand. They could take an L to the Knicks. 100%.


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[Assistant] Big of an upset would it be if the Cavs could beat the Milwaukee Bucks. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] Nobody. I'm saying in 10 years, like 20 years, like. I'll tell you this.


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[Assistant] Because I'm looking at it. See, to me,


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[Assistant] If, if, if we were looking at it from a Boston standpoint, I actually think the Boston Celtics are not scary.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think they're winning the championship. I think they're terrifying. I, I, I, I'm more scared of Milwaukee because I just don't, I've seen, I've seen Jalen Brown not.


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[Assistant] Play, I've seen him be okay, but I ain't never seen Giannis like, like I just think that they're, they're just more. Yeah, but you said Jalen Brown, but they still got Jason Tatum. Tatum, Tatum and get his. Like, but, but if you ask me, would, would I be more scared of Milwaukee or Boston? I think you have.


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[Assistant] If you look at him, like, I'm like, okay, well, can Jared Allen play ball with Horford? Sure.


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[Assistant] Could Evan Mobley, you know, he play his game. Yeah, but when you look at those guys versus like an Embiid or versus Giannis, it just seems like he just walks.


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[Assistant] By the way, you can't like, you know, Anthony definitely looks like he's in a mosh pit somewhere. Yes, that's true. Uh, that, that under, that, that underbelly culture of hair bands and metal bands. By the way, you can't play none of that, that crap.


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[Assistant] That starter wipe, that is a starter wipe spit in a half. That be hap, that, that is really real though.


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[Assistant] I haven't been to no wedding like this. Brothers, back me up.


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[Assistant] Ain't no like, let's get this and put this back on like that. It's good luck for the new couple.


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[Assistant] I've been taught to look at the ground with women's talk now, but I don't even be, like, that's a date. That's a physical, like, seriously? Look, see, here's the thing. What happens if she don't want to stop you? What happens, bull? What happens if she don't put the roadblock on?


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[Assistant] Hey, if I've ever done, I'll put this in a disclaimer, if I've done anything crazy,


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[Assistant] If you've known me in the other past, I apologize in advance for what I've done because I don't know. Like after this stuff, I've never done anything in college. I was a girl college in college. Everything was inappropriate. All of it. And you know, we're just we're trying to be better people.


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[Assistant] So we've basically done uhm, we've done the last two generations of disservice because


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[Assistant] What we've essentially done is, yes, we've raised awareness about mental health issues. My dad, uhm, happened to work for the, uh, you know, mental health department in Summit, in Summit County and Stark County.


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[Assistant] people make sure that the He would take visits wit have anybody in their are need to find transportatio places, the grocery store sure that the police inter Hey, if the police would s


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[Assistant] So in this country, we've raised awareness, but at the same time, we've not done what we're supposed to do. Back in 1980, Jimmy Carter put in play the Mental Health Systems Act of 1980. And it was legislation signed by President Carter that provided grants to community health centers.


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[Assistant] Couple years later, Reagan got in office and he dismantled most of the program. And as of today, we continue to dismantle most of the program. If you look at it, Ohio was one of the most, Ohio was one of the major states that cut the most funding to mental health in the United States. What a disgrace.


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[Assistant] It's the, you know, it's the 15 largest budget cut and hit, uh, the eight largest cut in dollars of all 50 states during the fiscal 2009 to 2011 year. Now, people don't know in 2009 or 2011,


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[Assistant] Everywhere in our country, we receive massive cuts to the mental health system, right? Ohio, the seventh largest state cut its general fund.


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[Assistant] For mental health budget by 57.7 million or 11.3% of his total budget. Uhm, that brought funding down, uhm, for almost $200 million. This happened in all different places.


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[Assistant] So yes, it's important for our athletes to talk about mental health. It's important for us to talk about mental health when it comes to school shootings and people having rifles and things like that.


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[Assistant] At some point in time, our generation has to look in the mirror and say


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[Assistant] We have to hold our, our elected officials.


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[Assistant] Responsible in saying yes, it's cool for you to say we need to get our head around. We need to wrap our minds around. We need to bring awareness. Awareness time is over. We need the funding back. Where are the programs? Where are the budgets? Where are the things that you need to do in your community to help mental health? Not just talk about mental health as this is talking point.


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[Assistant] We've seen it all over the place. And yes, mental health is a thing that we can all sympathize with.


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[Assistant] But unless we are going to get serious about where our tax dollars are going, we will continue to have not only people in high schools, young kids, poor people, rich people. As you see, mental health affects the whole spectrum.


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[Assistant] So we need to be serious about where our dollars are going so that we can wrap our head around some of this stuff if we really serious about mental health.


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[Assistant] On opposites and into the spectrum as we talk about mental health, there's a, there's a,


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[Assistant] So there are people who, you know, need that outlet. There are people that need to talk to somebody and things like that. But you know what I marvel at though? Because most of us are in a spectrum.


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[Assistant] Most of us are in the middle area where, hey, we have our ups, we have our downs, some days are better than the others. Some people need a little more time to talk through and work through the feelings, right? And so we talk about Giannis and Kevin Love. But what Marvel's, what I'm, what I take a look at is the guys that are on the other's end of the spectrum, like, like the Cobies, like the LeBrons, like, it's almost like,


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[Assistant] Even though, like, Giannis is saying, I can't go nowhere. They're looking at me. They're like, I can't be myself.


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[Assistant] Like think about how tough that is, like at the highest levels in that food chain where LeBron has said, Oh, I'm locked in. All I got to do is this. Kobe will be like, listen, I don't go to Allen Iverson. Allen Iverson will tell him he would come in and they go out to eat. He said, listen, I'm about to go to the gym. He go to the eat. They go that level of focus. I don't even know if that's healthy. I mean, they


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[Assistant] See, that's what I'm saying. Like, we were talking about it, like, different things, like, I said, I was just the dumbest take I've ever had. I told my brother, shout out to my brother Bryson, he says, uh, yea man, Janet Jackson, that's crazy. I'm like, man, somebody was like, yea, she can't go do that. I'm like, what you mean? Janet Jackson can go through the mall, and he was like,


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[Assistant] He has to live in a zoo. Like he's not from Cleveland, but he couldn't just go to the


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[Assistant] Does his, even a security detail on his kids and wife and everything like that?


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[Assistant] Probably, uh, he probably has a nice security detail on him.


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[Assistant] Basically tell you, I think part of the reason LeBron went to LA was because in LA,


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[Assistant] There are massive amounts of people who are already rich. They don't want anything from you. Their kids think that they're the coolest thing in the world. Like, if you go to a kid with LeBron's kids, they're like, well, my dad's an actor. Well, my dad owns this. Like, it's not as crazy to be like, oh,


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[Assistant] When you see Magic and then you see Kobe and you see stars all the time, it's like you can sort of live a little bit, but not an actor.


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[Assistant] You wouldn't know it. You could be on a flight with the owner, the general manager, none of you. You wouldn't, uhm, Donovan Mitchell is recognizable. Uhm, but he's not that big either.


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[Assistant] He's thick. Yeah, he's not tall, but I will say this. This is kind of crazy. Yeah, if he played well in the first series.


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[Assistant] It's just gonna be a mob in it. He has different energy. So like I learned this, right? Like.


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[Assistant] So you can either be a person that got decent, that's why the John Moran thing was so crazy to me. Like because he was moving, how he was moving was moving like he's a street dude.


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[Assistant] You're a rapper, like you do know rappers die every week, like all of them. Even the most popular ones, they die. So it's the way you move in, like you invite certain energy. Like you talk about you beating kids up, you got guns and stuff. Hopefully that's behind you. But when you look at Jared Allen,


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[Assistant] He said, I dress corny, I got an afro, I'm a nice dude.


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[Assistant] I, I used to see Jordan Clarkson all the time. Like, he, I'm like man, he just, he'd be at these random, like,


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[Assistant] Now the only thing like, I mean, at that time nobody was playing this shit in the cabs. They had like Andre drumming. I'm like anybody going down there. It was like, but.


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[Assistant] Some of the top, the top flight dudes is different with basketball players. Yeah. Basketball dudes.


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[Assistant] Like, they got name brand, like, like you can look. They're the most recognizable. Recognizable. Unless it's somebody like Tom Brady or Paintman. The only baseball player


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[Assistant] And we watch Curry, and I'm like, and Michael Jordan, and Michael Jackson. And I'm like, how do you know about LeBron James? They're like, oh, we watch, we watch all LeBron's games. I'm like, how? Like, I can't watch all the Proud's games on the Bally's app. How you got it? How you got the Bally's app?


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[Assistant] My mom, my mom called me last night, complaining, like at 12 o'clock. I can't, they shoulda, he was, I, the Yankees guy act like, the Yankees, they act like they're the best thing moving. He, he turned around and came back on the field. They shoulda kicked him out and called the cops. I said, mom, what you talking about?


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[Assistant] She was like, my dad comes up, she's talking about the guardians. I said, okay.


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[Assistant] With relievers, you never know what those are. And that De La Santos cat, he scares me too. He's now on my list.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's just me man. Look, when you got guys up there throwing, you know, 90s, low 90s, I can't trust that. Like, isn't that funny?


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[Assistant] So that baseball segment was sponsored by Flair baseball.


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[Assistant] My dad, he used to, he used to pitch and then he was our coach and then.


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[Assistant] Prior to high school, like in traveling ball, he used to bring me in and he would be like, look.


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[Assistant] You just, you, you, you, you, we can't be having dudes get walked on. And I'm like, so I used to hit him back. Oh, so you can't pitch either? Uh, no, I had no command. Did we get your dad to


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[Assistant] So here's the thing, if I do batting practice, I really might hit one of them kids.


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[Assistant] We just throw it out there and be like, yeah, that was a final take. We don't just gotta label it, but yeah, man. Couple things.


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[Assistant] See, that's Tyvis. Shout out to Tyvis. That was one of his comments. That's crazy. Really? 2011? 2011. And I think they played Notre Dame. That's nuts. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] You know, you can't, look, you can't. I saw that weird text and I don't, how, like, so this is real. Like, I just got that, like, so my brother sent me that and he says,


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[Assistant] If his biggest move is Deshaun Watson and he paid off, he took a gamble on something that nobody would do.


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[Assistant] This is an organization that back in the 60s was a very tame, not particularly political organization.


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[Assistant] It's in combat that the NRA thrives. It's with enemies that the NRA is best able to communicate its point of view, and above all, raise money.


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[Assistant] Columbine was a direct threat to the American gun culture because Columbine really brought to the surface the idea that a couple of disturbed teenagers, if they want to on any given weekend, can go to a gun show and assemble the weapons they need to go and take over the school and start shooting everybody.


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[Assistant] You don't need thousands of people and you don't need millions of dollars. You need hundreds of people who will get on the phone. And really, a couple hundred people will show up at a town hall meeting. You do that a couple of times and your member of Congress gets the message.


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[Assistant] Gun control movement is fragmented. You don't have what you need to mount a true movement, which is committed warriors.


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[Assistant] People who don't need money, who don't need, uhm, fancy galas, come out because they care. Uhm, that's what the gun people have.


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[Assistant] This was not off the cuff. He didn't lose it. This was very thought out. And they decided on a strategy and they executed the strategy.


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[Assistant] And we've got to send the signal that this is not the time to compromise, that Obama is the enemy, and they want to take your guns away. Yes, it's too bad about the kids, but we are not going to back down.


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[Assistant] Within the inner circles of the NRA, the wives of senior NRA officials shedding tears and saying to their husbands that something has to happen. You have to do something different.


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[Assistant] The NRA's main anxiety at that moment is not losing, is not seeing something enacted.


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[Assistant] It's not looking soft to their own membership and to the substantial number of Americans, who probably number in the millions, who think the NRA is not tough enough.


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[Assistant] On this vote, the yeas are 50, the nays are 50, the Senate being equally divided, the Vice President votes in the affirmative, and the amendment is agreed to.


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[Assistant] Beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.


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[Assistant] May God bless the memory of the victims.


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[Assistant] Heal the broken hearted and bind up their wounds.


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[Assistant] It came down to politics. The worry that that vocal minority of gun owners would come after them in future elections.


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[Assistant] Two small groups, the Gun Owners of America and the National Association of Gun Rights, began to circulate letters saying, we hear that the NRA is compromising with Mancham. Uh, there, and they used that word, the dreaded C word, uh, that, uh, there's a compromise bill.


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[Assistant] Suddenly the NRI stopped cooperating, uh, with Manchin. Uh, stopped returning their email, stopped calling.


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[Assistant] Great meeting in the Oval Office tonight with the NRA. Respect Second Amendment. Highly trained expert teachers will be allowed to conceal. I want to thank all of our friends and patriots at the NRA. We will never fail, and we will always protect your Second Amendment.


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[Assistant] The dramatic conclusion tonight on Frontline.


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[Assistant] Over the decades, as Donald Trump watched and waited, the prospect of becoming president would grow. Just as the nation was becoming more and more divided.


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[Assistant] At the time, Megyn Kelly was a star on Fox News.


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[Assistant] In his clash with Kelly, Trump was creating conflict, just as he'd done as a reality TV star.


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[Assistant] Trump had a powerful ally in the attack on Kelly. The right-wing website Breitbart. And its leader, Steve Bannon.


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[Assistant] In taking on Fox, Bannon and Trump were inciting the kind of conflict Breitbart's readers thrived on.


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[Assistant] Roger Ailes ran Fox News. Ruthless and powerful, Ailes was a force to be reckoned with.


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[Assistant] He needed Breitbart, Bannon, and Trump more than he needed Kelly.


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[Assistant] Trump had won. And it was a sign of what was to come. Brutal. Divisive. Anything goes.


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[Assistant] And in arena after arena, Trump cultivated his growing populist base.


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[Assistant] He spoke directly to their resentment at Washington, at the elites, us versus them.


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[Assistant] Roger Stone was a long-time political advisor to Donald Trump. He has since been convicted of lying to Congress.


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[Assistant] Donald Trump wasn't the only one who seized the opportunity to exploit the nation's division. Vladimir Putin did it too.


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[Assistant] Using a cyber attack to strike at the fault lines of American democracy.


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[Assistant] Trump, himself sowing discord and chaos, encouraged the Russians to continue their attack and target Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.


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[Assistant] To help Trump, the Russians spread fake news about Hillary Clinton.


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[Assistant] One particular conspiracy theory was aired in America by a Russian propaganda network, RT.


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[Assistant] conservative talk radio host Charlie Sykes saw how it hardened the divide.


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[Assistant] Using conflict and outrage, Donald Trump had galvanized an angry base and won over the reluctant Republican establishment.


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[Assistant] But a tabloid crisis would test how much they would take, and how far he could go.


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[Assistant] Breitbart's Steve Bannon had signed on as the CEO of Trump's campaign.


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[Assistant] Bannon, Hicks, a top aide, and other members of the Trump team watched it online.


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[Assistant] A damage control team gathered. Rudy Giuliani, Chris Christie, Kellyanne Conway, Bannon.


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[Assistant] And the very next day, just before the presidential debate, Bannon had a plan to keep the conflict going.


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[Assistant] They spirited him down the freight elevator, put him in a conference room, and opened the doors to an unsuspecting press corps.


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[Assistant] They were allegations the Clintons had long denied, but it didn't matter to Bannon and Trump. They were sowing more chaos.


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[Assistant] On election night, Trump's divisive campaign paid off.


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[Assistant] But Steve Bannon didn't want things to be okay. He went to work on a speech that would emphasize division. Give the base what it wanted.


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[Assistant] But having won, Trump wavered. It would sound uncharacteristically conciliatory.


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[Assistant] In his next public appearance, it was toned down Trump again in the Oval Office. No sign of the brutal divisiveness that had gotten him there.


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[Assistant] The reality TV star smiled and tried out his new role.


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[Assistant] And it only got more personal. After the briefing, FBI Director James Comey spoke to Trump privately.


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[Assistant] Unverified and sensational allegations prepared by a former British spy. Partially paid for by the Democrats. It was political dynamite.


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[Assistant] After the meeting, the president-elect was furious.


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[Assistant] Bannon himself had used Breitbart to wage harsh right-wing attacks. Now, Bannon said the mainstream media was going after Trump.


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[Assistant] He wasn't even president, and already Trump was under siege.


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[Assistant] Now it was back to what Trump did best. At a press conference the very next day, he gave his base what they had come to expect. He attacked.


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[Assistant] As he took the oath of office, Donald Trump made no pretense of seeking unity or healing. He spoke directly to his base.


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[Assistant] He framed the conflict. Us versus them.


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[Assistant] But that very day, he would be confronted by the other side of the device.


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[Assistant] The protests, the women, then the breaking point. The news about the size of the crowd at his inauguration.


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[Assistant] On their first day in the White House, press aide Cliff Sims saw Trump's frustration up close.


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[Assistant] This was the statement they drafted. Almost every fact about the crowd size was wrong.


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[Assistant] Trump didn't let it go. The fight over crowd size resonated with his base and the yes versus them war he was waging.


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[Assistant] Steve Bannon kept a list on his office wall of the promises that the president was trying to deliver on.


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[Assistant] The most explosive executive order, crafted to create shock and awe.


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[Assistant] ...was aimed at blocking people from seven predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States.


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[Assistant] Trump would rely on Speaker Paul Ryan and the Republican establishment.


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[Assistant] McCain, with a thumbs down gesture, shocked the chamber.


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[Assistant] It was a decisive moment. He would have to unleash his attack politics onto the Republican establishment itself.


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[Assistant] This time he turned to the base, spoke to them directly.


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[Assistant] He targeted congressional Republicans, especially leader Mitch McConnell.


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[Assistant] He had exploited division, separated the country into us versus them, and now he would target a new enemy, the government itself.


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[Assistant] Tapping into conspiratorial fears he called the Deep State.


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[Assistant] Trump's war with the deep state began with FBI Director James Comey.


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[Assistant] The man who had delivered the dossier and was investigating Russian election interference, unable to get him to back down, Trump fired him.


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[Assistant] Arriving in New York City, the President faced a firestorm.


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[Assistant] And now, Republicans who weren't sufficiently loyal.


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[Assistant] One example, Arizona Republican Senator Jeff Flake, who had emerged as a Trump critic.


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[Assistant] As always, Trump would attack, rallying his base against Flake.


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[Assistant] As Blake walked off the floor, he left the other Republicans with a choice.


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[Assistant] But Flake soon discovered there would be no Republican insurrection.


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[Assistant] Trump had brought divisive politics to the presidency, the Congress, and it would even extend to the Supreme Court.


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[Assistant] Igniting partisan warfare in the judiciary committee.


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[Assistant] Then, a shocking allegation that would feed the conflict.


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[Assistant] The Trump strategy? Make it TV drama. Play to the base.


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[Assistant] Soon, across the divide, a gathering storm. Democrats roaring back, taking over the House of Representatives, intensifying the partisanship in Washington.


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[Assistant] In the months that followed, the political conflict would escalate.


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[Assistant] It's so evident in that debate that they're there to kneecap Donald Trump, okay? They're there to take him out. And that's when we go, okay, we run.


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[Assistant] Twenty stories on Meg and Kelly. I get Tony Lee and Mad Boyle, my two hammers.


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[Assistant] They go right after Megyn Kelly. We're gonna Linsky her, right? We're gonna cut her out from the, call her out from the herd and just hit her non-stop. That's when all war broke out. That's when Breitbart, that's when you had to choose sides.


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[Assistant] The whole Trump, all the Pepes, all these Trump guys were pounding in here.


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[Assistant] Ailes calls me up and says, you gotta knock off these stories. She's crying, she's all upset, she's getting death threats. That kind of sounds like a personal problem.


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[Assistant] And it's Friday afternoon, about two o'clock, and all of a sudden Hope Hicks shows up outside the glass thing, and she's giving me the signal. And so I step out, I go out and I read this thing, she's got this transcript. And she's like about to cry, she goes, oh this is terrible.


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[Assistant] Like, woah! Boom! That thing hits, and we're sitting in the conference room, and on video, I didn't quite realize it was audio and video. In video, it's pretty powerful, so everything shuts down.


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[Assistant] You know, it's Rudy and Christie and all the traditional politicians are saying it's over and you gotta, you know, Trump's going around and saying, give me your percentage and what do I do? And they're all like, you know, zero percent, 20%. I go, it's a hundred percent. And he goes, I said, listen.


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[Assistant] They don't care. This is locker room talk. They don't care about vulgarity or anything like that. They care about their losing their jobs. They're losing their country. They see their country going away from them.


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[Assistant] He's in a bad mood. Okay. Now we've got a full revolt.


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[Assistant] Pence is nowhere to be found. He's not out there saying great. He gives him, you know, we get a letter from him. Paul Ryan's out of the campaign. McConnell's out. Because they thought they were going to lose the Republican party. They thought every woman in America will never vote for a Republican again, right? Because this guy's a barbarian.


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[Assistant] Trump didn't know about it. We're in the presidential suite at the hotel, walk up and Trump, as often would do, would kind of lean back and almost close his eyes and say, okay, here's what we got.


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[Assistant] We got Paula Jones and all the women that, that Clinton assaulted. Then you're going to sit in the middle, we're going to open the door and they're going to come in and we're going to hit them. Okay? And he, and I'm sitting there, I'm making my pitch, right? He goes, I go, what do you think? He goes, I love it.


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[Assistant] It was perfect and it was that, that got us momentum. That gave us the velocity. That gave us the muzzle velocity to kind of drive home in the last, you know, five, four or five weeks of the campaign.


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[Assistant] I start working on it like at, you know, one twelve, one o'clock in the morning. It was go to Washington and we're going to burn out the permanent political class. We're going to take a torch to the enemy. Okay? That was fire breathing.


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[Assistant] You never see the Trump victory night speech ever replayed. Because it's just not Trump. It's not a, it's kind of like, let's have a group hug.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. We didn't win an election to bring the country together.


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[Assistant] It's not time to bring the country together. It's time to take on the elites in this country. Take the torch to them. Hit them with a blowtorch.


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[Assistant] This is what scumbags the mainstream media are, and how gutless they are. Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed. The standard of excellence in journalism in our country.


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[Assistant] Prince the dossier, the link. And I said, here it goes, because in the New York Times, Washington Post, they're like, it's a bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.


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[Assistant] They're reporting this was given to the president, right?


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[Assistant] And the message is, it's a crisis, we're at work, and we're driving this. Donald Trump's President of the United States now comes the hour of action. There's been enough talk.


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[Assistant] In the sequencing, repeal and replace. And that's what the establishment and Ryan says, I got this. We voted 50 times.


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[Assistant] Fifty times to repeal this. This is something we own. We know this better than anybody.


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[Assistant] Repeal and replace becomes a fiasco. They're totally and completely incompetent. They're not ready to govern. They're just not ready to govern.


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[Assistant] This is where various elements in the White House, in the West Wing get in his ear about trying to get him to do something that is not in his wheelhouse, not in the way he rolls. You can't do that. Let Trump be Trump.


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[Assistant] The nation voted for it. It is what it is. It's just not, if you try to do it, it'll be phony and everybody can spell the phoniness.


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[Assistant] He's definitely willing to sacrifice Israeli U.S. relations in order to do what he thinks is proper to fight off the Iranian challenge.


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[Assistant] I think they viewed this almost as a, uh, uh, usurpation, as a, as a coup d'etat. And they were livid.


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[Assistant] Mr. Netanyahu was a member of the Sayeret Matkal unit, which is the, it's like Navy SEALs. It's the fabled unit of the Israeli army. It's the one that anybody who was anybody wanted to belong to.


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[Assistant] I think there was this element of rite of passage during Netanyahu to be in such a unit.


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[Assistant] There was nothing grander than being in Seoul at Moscow.


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[Assistant] At least for Netanyahu's father this was, you know, history, uh, uh, repeating itself.


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[Assistant] He cultivated from the outset Jewish rich people, Jewish millionaires who


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[Assistant] Would pay almost any sum at the time to be near him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and to, you know, to sort of get a whiff of his, uh, what's it called, stardust.


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[Assistant] He was genuinely outraged, but he knew how to channel that outrage. And that coincided with his rise to power.


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[Assistant] I was there, and uhm, a lot of other people my age were there. This was such a volatile...


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[Assistant] Uhm, atmosphere at the time. And the sa- and the writing was on the wall.


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[Assistant] President Clinton was really affected by Rabin's assassination and he viewed, I think, uh, Netanyahu, uh, through the eyes of Rabin as the person who would bring down Oslo if given half a chance.


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[Assistant] People who spoke to him on those days have said that he thought that his career was over.


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[Assistant] And so Netanyahu is naturally a return to center stage as the person who had warned about, you know, terrorism, uhm, and slowly starts to recover.


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[Assistant] Convinced that Paris had been elected and woke up with Benjamin Netanyahu as Prime Minister.


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[Assistant] Nobody was happy with him. The left weren't happy with him for what he was doing to undermine Oslo. And the right wasn't happy with him for what he was doing to keep Oslo. He was in a sort of impossible balancing act.


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[Assistant] It wasn't a request, it was a demand. And I think that this shocked, uh, Netanyahu, shocked the people around Netanyahu and


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[Assistant] Sort of gave proof to the people who had been whispering in Netanyahu's ears that this guy's up to no good.


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[Assistant] I think that now recognized in Obama suddenly a person who was hell-bent on setting up a Palestinian state.


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[Assistant] I think Obama realized at that time that the price that he was paying


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[Assistant] For trying to ram something down Netanyahu's throat that Netanyahu didn't want to have rammed down his throat was not worth, it wasn't worth it for him.


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[Assistant] It clearly reveals a degree of dysfunction on both sides. This in some respects was a train wreck waiting to happen even from the beginning.


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[Assistant] That is fundamentally hostile, a world that is afflicted by an eternal anti-Semitism.


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[Assistant] That, that the Nazi Holocaust was part of a long series of acts against Jews.


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[Assistant] You do not have an Israeli or Palestinian leader right now, or an American president frankly, who is prepared to pay the price of what it would take.


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[Assistant] To lay the basis for a conflict ending agreement of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.


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[Assistant] Why are companies, uhm, I haven't figured out an exact reason why companies are boycotting Facebook. Do you know why this is happening?


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[Assistant] Ah. Is it the right or left or is it everybody? Who's coming after?


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[Assistant] What if I go out there and say I'm looking at some video and it's got 19 views and I come back 7 minutes later the person makes that transaction and there's 280,000. Is it like that? It's just all of a sudden show a bunch of views?


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[Assistant] Bingo. Well you can buy like, you can buy Yelp reviews even, Amazon reviews, you can do all that.


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[Assistant] Is that only for people that aren't paying attention or are stupid? Like don't you think advertisers, if they're truly gonna invest in a show, like they're gonna actually look at that?


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[Assistant] Do you think it's a detriment to the league already in the fact that it does do that? Cause like you look at the Rams, like it's potential that this Jared Goff deal is going to like set them back like five years and, and destroy the window that they created to win.


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[Assistant] What's it gonna look like? Do you know what it's gonna look like? Like the overall numbers? You have any idea?


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[Assistant] Timing is gigantic. You're right. You obviously have to be good to get a big deal like that, but timing absolutely helps. And oh, okay. What are their other options? Do they have a young backup that they want to that think that he could be the next guy?


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[Assistant] Do they want, are they looking at the draft or do they think there's possible free agents to sign, like if you're a quarterback? I mean, any position you're in, timing is definitely huge.


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[Assistant] Uh, when you come into free agency, but so let's say Deshaun signs and he gets about 40 million a year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you do. Man, Pat Mahomes deal. I know everyone freaked out when he signed it for how much it looks, you know, whatever, 10 years, 500 mil, whatever it is.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone, welcome to the Sky Sports F1 podcast with me, Matt Baker. We're going to use this week's podcast as an opportunity to preview the Chinese Grand Prix, the first time we've gone to Shanghai in five years. To help me do that, I'm joined by a very colourful Craig Slater on location.


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[Assistant] In China with some, for those of you listening, just put some fireworks, I think, through his, through his effects. I didn't do that. Did you do that? No.


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[Assistant] Yeah, really well. Thanks. A little croaky. So apologies. I think hay fever season is just starting here in the UK. So, uh, if I sound a little bit croaky, that's why. Um, look, Craig, you're back in China. You flew in, flew in yesterday. It's been five years since we were there. So what's the feeling on the ground? Good to be back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's firmly now on the calendar, isn't it? In the form, in the Formula One schedule and it has been for some time. Sounds like a very, very key weekend then in the future of the Chinese Grand Prix. And Bernie, when, when we last raced in China.


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[Assistant] Five years ago, you were working with Racing Point with Sergio Perez and Lance Stroll. So look, life's changed a bit for you since then. You're not in China this, this week. You're at home.


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[Assistant] Craig, just paint a picture there of, of what you see then when you land. It's purely Jogua New, is it? With a, with a smattering of the world champions.


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[Assistant] Coming up with regards to the Chinese Grand Prix, I imagine if Zhou Guanyu does have a good result, or there is a lot of good noise around him this weekend, then it probably will contribute to the future of the Chinese Grand Prix. Look, we've got so much coming up, we're gonna...


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[Assistant] Um, be talking about why this is one of the most unpredictable races in Formula One in, in years. Uh, we're going to also take a look at the new sprint format, which makes its debut in its current form for the 2024 season this weekend.


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[Assistant] In China, we're going to discuss who the conditions, uh, out, out in Shanghai might favor. But first.


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[Assistant] And this is something I wanted to talk to you Craig about because you've, you've, well, there's, there's been no shortage of storylines has there since, since we last went racing out in Japan.


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[Assistant] We've had Fernando Alonso sign a new deal with Aston Martin that's going to keep him racing there till 2026. He'll be 45, no less when he, when he finishes at the end of that contract. So yeah, that's, that's young. We've also had the 2025 calendar announced.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's probably the headline from that being that we're going to start in Australia for the 2025 season. So sort of a, a slightly more traditional look to that, to the, to the calendar. But also Craig, you've been spending a bit of time at the, and I'm going to use inverted commas here, opening of the Andretti factory. And I wonder if you could just provide a little update about what you found there, given that


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[Assistant] Andretti have been told by Formula One, the commercial rights holders,


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[Assistant] There was no chance of an entry for 25 and 26. They're pressing ahead, aren't they anyway? And what's their sort of, yeah, what's their, what's their ambition going forward?


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[Assistant] Andretti came calling and said, look, we want you to join this team. Here's the catch. There's no firm clear date in which we are going to be on the Formula One grid. It must be an odd feeling for those people employed by that team to be working towards this.


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[Assistant] I'm going to say open goal in the most pure sense of an open goal, right?


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[Assistant] Craig, did you, did you go in the factory? I'm, I'm, I'm sort of slightly intrigued. Like what's in there? If they're not building.