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[Assistant] Listen, they're not coming for us. You should go. Run for it.


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[Assistant] Stay here. I'm tired. Go find Luke and the rest. They'll take care of you.


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[Assistant] Screwing up. I didn't ask for any of this.


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[Assistant] Now look, if we get separated, Cabin's only half a mile from here. You can't miss it.


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[Assistant] Hey Clem, I just wanted to say, thanks for not giving up on me.


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[Assistant] I can go too. You stay with the group. I'm fine Luke.


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[Assistant] I'm sure they're talking about me right now. Look, he's becoming a danger to the group. Who was that guy? I swear. It looked like he was holding you guys up. I figured he was with Carver.


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[Assistant] Damn, if Alvin is in front of me he takes that shot. What a fucking mess. Maybe I am losing it. I don't know anymore.


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[Assistant] I left my watch back at the cabin. It was Pete's. He gave it to me. That's all I had left of him. You know what? I'm gonna go talk to them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm holding on to my rifle. Thanks. You're our guest here.


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[Assistant] Us. You were the one waving a gun around, man.


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[Assistant] You okay, man? Yeah, just... I wish I hadn't pulled that trigger. Just try to forget about


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[Assistant] Hey, if there's something going on, I wanna know. No, just go back to bed, Nick. I'm serious. You guys can talk to me.


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[Assistant] That's right. My family and I are set up a ways down river run. Kinda surprised we haven't run into each other yet. What's your name?


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[Assistant] Is there anyone else around? You don't usually see cabins this big out here.


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[Assistant] Well I'll cut to the chase. I'm out looking for my people. Seven of them to be exact. They've been gone a long while and I'm worried they might have gotten lost. Maybe you've seen them. Couple of farm boys and an old man. Spanish guy and his daughter. Quiet girl. Bit taller than you. Big black guy. This big. And a pretty little pregnant lady.


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[Assistant] Just passing through or you been here a while? Hey listen, kid.


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[Assistant] Whole lotta people headed that way lately. Me, I don't get it. There's just as much nothing up there as there is down here. And I can't stand that Yankee weather.


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[Assistant] No, not that I can recall. Is he a friend of yours?


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[Assistant] I knew a guy that always wore shirts like this. Doctor. Real smug, son of a bitch.


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[Assistant] Well, I think I've troubled you long enough. I can let myself out.


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[Assistant] You remember George, Alvin? You see, I do. I remember a guy that was your friend.


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[Assistant] Finally cut and run, huh? Why am I not surprised? I warned you. I warned you not to follow him. Look where he's led you.


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[Assistant] But you're safe now. We're going home. As a family.


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[Assistant] I know, folks are sore over what happened. Let's remember, these are our brothers and sisters, and they all have a vital role to play in this community. They strayed from the flock, yeaah. That don't mean they can't earn their way back into the fold. I don't mean we can't find it in our hearts to forgive them. No one full well, those who choose not to accept our love, surely wish they had.


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[Assistant] Let's get right to it, Trevor. The wrong team is playing in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Last Sunday's game, last Sunday's game had the worst call I've ever seen since I decided to go commando under a graduation row.


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[Assistant] Anyway, Saints fans are pissed and they have every right to be.


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[Assistant] The problem is that the NFL doesn't allow refs to review this type of play, which is stupid. Cause any other questionable call, they go and huddle around that little TV like they're watching a peep show.


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[Assistant] You know what? That's a great idea, Roy. I agree with you.


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[Assistant] In fact, we should just use instant replay for everything in life. We already got cameras everywhere, traffic cameras, body cameras. Did you know that iPhones are built with a camera already inside of them? Yeah, I think everyone knows that, Roy. Well they didn't, unless they just started doing it. Look, the point is,


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[Assistant] Anytime there's a disagreement about anything, anything in life, we should be able to throw out a flag and check out the instant replay. Two people fighting over a parking spot? Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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[Assistant] I don't think it's a good idea to try to impose a government from outside. So I was against the idea of having a provisional government composed of exiles. There should be a process by which the Iraqi people, especially those who are inside,


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[Assistant] I thought it was a show of force. I do not like to have warlords in this country, you know, each one having his own militia. Well, but on a very small scale, of course. But I mean the whole idea of having, you know,


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[Assistant] Okay.


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[Assistant] Sir, one day before the Khandala race, I saw Faisal filling this box with oil.


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[Assistant] Okay.


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[Assistant] Yo Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and I'm in here today with AJ Productions. How the fuck you doing, bro?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, uh, you are a dude who's, everybody's gonna know the name when they click it and shit, but I feel like, you know, being a music video director, it's like a very, it's a challenge to like brand yourself, to let people know who you really are. Right, right.


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[Assistant] 1.6 million subscribers is a shitload. Like, I got less than that on my personal channel. But you're behind the camera, so it's like a very, it's a different type of fame, a different type of notoriety.


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[Assistant] Name like, uh, music videos for like indie type bands and shit. And they were, the whole article was just about how horrible it is, how you have to work for like no money, how it's like you have to just grind for years and years to make a name for yourself, blah blah blah. And I was just thinking, I'm like damn rap is crazy. Cause like I can think of, you know, not a ton, but maybe like, you know, at least like five or 10 different video


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[Assistant] How long did it take for you to get like a proper filming setup? Like how did that slowly develop?


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[Assistant] Wow, that's fucking crazy. So yeaah, when did you, did you start like meeting anybody who was like, uh, of any kind of fame or anything early on? I imagine there had to be a moment where you either go to Big Check or where you worked with a big artist.


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[Assistant] What was your perspective on like what was going on in Chicago at that time? Because that was, to me that was a huge moment in rap history because I had never seen a rapper who blew up with like the young people in Chicago or in their city.


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[Assistant] What's the video you got paid the most for during your whole career? Was there ever like one where you just got hit by the label and you just got the stupid chick?


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[Assistant] Just coincidentally they both passed away, so it was like extra harsh to like be like


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[Assistant] You smoke? No, I'm good. You sure? Man. I got these fucking bare woods. I got this big giant fucking bare woods pre-roll that we gotta smoke at some point here. I'm trying to give it to somebody.


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[Assistant] The same way that Lil Xan got cracking off basically having a name with Xan in it, it's like if you came out with a stupid ass rap, if you came out Lil Perk right now, well that sounds kinda generic.


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[Assistant] But you could have a high rap name that was only hot because it just had perk in it and people were stupid and they would just fall for it.


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[Assistant] I mean, arguably that whole wave of like SoundCloud rapper shit, people could kinda get hot by just being on some like crazy hair color, face tattoo shit. I feel like arguably that era has like died down a lot. That's facts. You know, people are like adjusting to that. Coming back regular. Yea, a little bit at least.


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[Assistant] Whoa, like, they didn't repeat one once, but it's like, you could shoot a music video so fast if you just had a template already and you just picked out your clips like that.


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[Assistant] So let me ask you this though. Say you had to shoot a little house phone video right now. Say you have all your camera equipment, you gotta shoot it in here. How long is it gonna take you to shoot it and how long is it gonna take you to edit it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's interesting dude. Uhm, so what's like the most, so is that Rallo when you were talking about, is that the most involved of a video shoot you've ever done that took the longest?


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[Assistant] It's weird because when you look at like the biggest craziest videos, like take the sicko mode video, it's a long ass song with a ridiculous number of ridiculously expensive elaborate shots. It's like every


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[Assistant] Do you get all comments that are like, mad that every video you post isn't a GBE video?


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[Assistant] Sometimes, but the thing is, like, I see it with YouTubers too, is that if you're a YouTuber who's popular with like 12 year old kids,


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[Assistant] I just realized Laka's gonna be pissed that we did this interview because you've been trying to link with me for a while.


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[Assistant] That push it over the top. What's it like seeing people that like were inspired by you fucking do a similar route to success that you did?


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[Assistant] I feel like yeaah, at the end of the day, like encouraging other people is always gonna be the best route in the long run. Like you're always gonna like have more positive things come out of like supporting other people.


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[Assistant] What are your, like, goals or aspirations in terms of shit? I know you're working on that show, but in terms of whatever else you got going on or where you want to see yourself in five or ten years, what's your plan?


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[Assistant] That's fire. That's something to look forward to right there. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Hell yeah. Uhm, anybody you want to shout out or anything we should keep an eye out for in the near future?


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[Assistant] I watched Lil' Ak, Lil' Ak, he already got the game on lock.


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[Assistant] They're liquidating all the, all the 6ix9ine verses cause you see that Josiah kid, he got one too.


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[Assistant] He really needed that though too, because if you think about him in California, like there's probably a lot of people that would be ready to go to jail for 20 years to kill 6ix9ine for the hood. You know, for California.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people that probably would have been down to do that. You know? That's kinda crazy when you think about it. It's kinda sad, but also kinda understandable.


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[Assistant] This is a fun time getting to know you and get to learn about the man behind the camera. So thank you very much for your time.


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[Assistant] Investment banks such as Goldman Sachs were eager to lend to risky places such as Greece.


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[Assistant] And a big stock market boom. And there was a lot of innovating, uh, risk taking banking at that time.


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[Assistant] From the 1930s, we got a period of reform and constraints placed on banks. They became much more regulated and many of the banks were forced to do what you might call plain vanilla business. They'd take in deposits.


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[Assistant] You could make good money, don't get me wrong, but it was boring, it was very straightforward, it was about being in the community, it was about understanding who was a good credit risk. That's the history of American banking.


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[Assistant] The two big markets that, that rival each other are New York with Wall Street and London, the city of London. And in some instances,


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[Assistant] Key risk-taking activities were in London, they were outside the purview of American regulators.


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[Assistant] Big global investment banks such as Goldman Sachs were eager to lend to relatively risky places such as Greece and they were eager to tell their customers that these risks were not very big.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, of course. Our banks would be the obvious conduit for any shock.


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[Assistant] They lend a lot to Europe. They transact a lot with European banks. And we in the United States have not sufficiently prepared for those difficulties.


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[Assistant] You believe this fucking place, Bonnie? Power and everything. Lot of windows though. It's fucking huge. Bill's gonna hate it.


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[Assistant] Look, no harm done. I'll give you a pass, but listen. If you can't afford to look human, you're going to the farm. It's as simple as that. You can't send me up to live with those animals.


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[Assistant] Whatever it costs, it's worth it. You don't want me catching you out of glamour again.


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[Assistant] Woody, this is your last warning. If you keep on like this, I won't have any choice but


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[Assistant] Hey! If you can't be nice, I'm gonna make you wait outside.


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[Assistant] The guy's got an axe in his brain. He's not feeling that.


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[Assistant] Look, whatever it is, it's between you and Beast. I'm staying out of it.


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[Assistant] Whatever it is, beast. I'm not a marriage counselor.


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[Assistant] Yep, more blood. Someone might have hopped the fence, got caught, then left the trail I found earlier.


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[Assistant] Instead of trying to assign blame, maybe we should figure out how to catch the fucker who did this.


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[Assistant] Your impatience is callow. You're needlessly cruel, but have some respect for our history and rules.


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[Assistant] Mirror mirror. If you're able, tell me all about this fable. See?


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[Assistant] Was that so hard? Yeah, I'm about two seconds away from kicking a hole in ya. There's no need for that. Fine. Of which fable do you wish to know?


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[Assistant] I don't know her name, not yet anyway. Well, until you do, I can't help you.


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[Assistant] Not much of a request. She's in this very room. Nobody right now.


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[Assistant] Strength. I guess it comes in all forms.


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[Assistant] Ichabod Crane. Scared shitless.


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[Assistant] Mirror, mirror, blah, blah, Abel, blah, blah, blah about this fable. Of which fable do you wish to know?


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[Assistant] Show me Faith's father, the old king.


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[Assistant] Hard to say. Something going on over at Toad's place.


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[Assistant] Someone was here and something's going on. Just so this trip wasn't a complete waste of time, I'm gonna look around a bit before we leave, okay?


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[Assistant] The lock looks like somebody kicked in the door.


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[Assistant] Someone ripped the lamp out of the wall and threw the thing. That's what happened, isn't it?


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[Assistant] And I don't know if I've got the patience to reverse engineer whatever scheme this is.


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[Assistant] This is a murder investigation, Snow. Things aren't that simple.


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[Assistant] Just leave it to me, alright? Let's see what happens when we get inside.


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[Assistant] Nope, can't say that I do. Come on, you're coming with me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is. Look, it'd be much easier


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[Assistant] Getting some answers out of him will start to clear things up.


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[Assistant] The woodsman. He had the motive. He had the means.


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[Assistant] I dunno if he is. That's why I need to talk to him. I don't have the whole story. Maybe he has some information that can help us out.


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[Assistant] You'll figure it out. You're better than I am with this political stuff.


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[Assistant] I don't know who that is. Big guy, beard, flannel, kind of a shitbag. Hard to mess, uh, sure you don't know him.


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[Assistant] Oh, I know what they are. I'm just trying to figure out why anyone would eat this.


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[Assistant] Saved your beer for you. Holly wanted to clear it, but, uh, I said no. You'll be back. Now here you are.


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[Assistant] I just wanna talk. This doesn't have to go like this.


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[Assistant] Maybe he don't wanna talk to you. Why don't we let him tell me that?


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[Assistant] Jesus, Bigby, that fuckin' hurt. Wastin' my fuckin' time.


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[Assistant] That all you got? Seem to be enough. Don't be so sure.


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[Assistant] Come on, you're under arrest. I didn't do it. And you got nothing to worry about.


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[Assistant] The house didn't blow itself down, Bigby. That's all I'm saying. Do with that what you will. Now I'm not saying it's reason enough for me to have DEFINITELY been offered a drink, but, uh...


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[Assistant] It would have helped ease some of the pain you once caused me, yes. It also would have shown everyone how different you are now.


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[Assistant] Nice. I take it all back. This is why everyone hates you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I'm hungry now. You don't see me tearing the flesh off of your bones. But you would if you could.


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[Assistant] But, uh, no, uhm, hate's the wrong word. They fear you more than anything. You ate a lot of people back in your day.


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[Assistant] Well, you can't change people's memories either.


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[Assistant] I think the dude is a pure shooter. I think he's somebody that to me, uhm, being in, you know, Golden State with, uh, with Steve Kerr and just learning from pros like Steph Curry and, and Klay Thompson.


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[Assistant] I kind of felt like he got buried on a dev chart that had a lot of shooters on there.


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[Assistant] But I think this is a sneaky sign in to me. I think this is a guy who can come in immediately, be your backup point guard. If he gets all the backup point guard minutes, I'm not mad at all. I do remember the game where he got the start against the Cavs last year and he dropped 22 points.


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[Assistant] Hello there. Haven't seen you before. You must be the new kid that moved to town. And you're into hunting, huh? Well, my boy, you've come to the right place.


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[Assistant] South Park is chock full of things to shoot that would delight any taxidermist, survivalist, or weekend animal death enthusiast. Ain't much I can sell to a miner, thanks to the stupid democrat, but, but if you could prove yourself a real hunter, I might be able to get you some better stuff. You should buy a copy of The Hunter's Guide to South Park Wildlife. This book thingy here.


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[Assistant] There's a big PTA meeting happening right now at the community center. You need to walk right into the middle of that meeting and tape this sign to their table. Yeah, that will prove your individuality. Go on, beat it. And don't come back until you have a picture of that sign taped to the PTA table.


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[Assistant] Woah, he did it. Nice. Yeah, but he's still not goth. He'll have to pass the final test. You may look goth, Frodo, but can you dance goth?


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[Assistant] They came down here like sharks to raw meat in the water and...


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[Assistant] Took advantage, full advantage of the opportunity that was here to make a lot of money.


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[Assistant] Okay, mom, thanks for pointing out bedtime for everyone.


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[Assistant] It's a school night, hon. You and your little druid friends need to- We're not druids, mom! We're fucking warriors and wizards!


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? They get in there, they get dirty. That's one of the great things about our, our concerts is like,


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[Assistant] It's a hip hop show with mosh pits. You know what I mean? It's crazy. It has that swagger and that audacity of hip hop, but it has that anger and that angst of rock and roll. And I just, I don't see nobody else really doing that. Maybe because they think it's stupid.


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[Assistant] In the beginning, in the beginning we were just doing what we loved, and then to find out, you know what I mean, that there was this humongous family of people.


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[Assistant] Right, absolutely, that's not what we got in it for, but to know that that's what it is now, it's become so much bigger than me and Jamie, you know what I mean? It's well beyond us.


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[Assistant] And to be a part of something like that, to be a part of what started something like that would solidify something like that, man.


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[Assistant] The first time I met him, ironically he was in a boys club. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It's like right now, if you took 50 of the hottest rappers that you could think of in us, and you put them on a stage, we're gonna stand out. You know what I mean? It's true.


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[Assistant] Me and Jamie are held to a different standard than everybody else. You know what I mean? When we do it, we're just two guys trying to hide behind makeup when everybody else do it. Oh look, he looks cool, he looks this or whatever.


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[Assistant] It's like outside of his comfort zone to try to be- I wonder what he's seen that made him be like, you know what? I'm painting my face for this one.


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[Assistant] That's America, man. They love to tear you down. You know what I mean? They'll build you up, but they have much more fun bringing you down and tearing you down. Right.


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[Assistant] Right, right. Because it's so far removed from the world that they were brought up in, it's, they're enamored by it. But it was like when we came up, you rapped to get out of the fucking hood. You ain't rapped to get back in a trap.


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[Assistant] And going back to the trap house, it just don't make sense to me these false senses of pride that they think they need to, I need to still be in that circle and that's why we're losing people at a rapid rate, man.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Nobody was helping anybody. Right. Everybody was out for themselves. And we, you know, us being the beginning guys, we got to see the real of everybody. You know what I mean? Before we, they got to hide behind the curtains and whatnot. And just how a lot of people treated us was like, are you fucking serious, dude?


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[Assistant] Where we came from though, man, it was rough as fuck. Yeah. Absolutely rough as fuck. You go there now, you know, and there's two houses on the block, but a fucking $70,000 Escalade. Really? One of the driveways, you know what I mean? They just bombard, it's like third world over there. But man, I say it.


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[Assistant] From being born until the day we created Twisted is fucking crazy as shit as opposed to Twisted till right now. Completely different worlds, houses getting shot up on the streets.


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[Assistant] Thuggin' out, bein' crazy. And you started the group at what age? It was his idea. I was done with it. He was like, hey man, I got an idea.


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[Assistant] Not everybody can hop on a bus and go for three months. It's true. You know what I mean? It's true. So the people that are around you...


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[Assistant] So if you're just out there shitting on these guys, you know, treating them like garbage, it's going to reflect in some way shape or form in your show.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Absolutely, that are seriously down for the cause. This ain't about twisted, this is about a movement that's been going on underground for a long time.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. And that's how you kind of find out who's there for the paycheck and who's there for the movement. You know what I mean? It's just through time. Time and opportunity. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Right. That's the first thing. When we got a deal, we actually had another guy in our group. It's true. Really? You were a three piece? Yeah, we were a three piece. Twice. And then we told him, we're going to get this deal and you're the first one. We're coming back.


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[Assistant] And I know everybody says that and they never do that. We actually did that shit. We went and got everybody that we could from the hood. Cause we told them, hey, you need rappers? We know rappers. We know rappers for days.


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[Assistant] It's more than talent, you know what I mean? It really is. It's such a character based industry. That if a, if a person's character is flawed, I don't give a shit who you are and how talented you are. Right. Either A, you have a time that, believe me, it's gonna catch up to you, or you will never get that airplane off the ground. Never. Attitude is everything for long term.


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[Assistant] Like I would, no, I would say like, yeah, late 97, early 98, we got our first like real deal from somebody that was doing it on a national level. And we just shut the fuck up and listened and watched and learned.


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[Assistant] That was the smartest thing we could have done, you know? That we could. Every meeting, anytime there were, you know, hushed talkings in the court, we listened and watched everything. That's true. Because the last thing we wanted to be is just some coat tail riders. Absolutely. We want to come in and be low maintenance.


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[Assistant] And that's what it was, and then we signed with fucking Def Jam, and Island, and none of that really mattered.


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[Assistant] When it came to, I guess, national record labels like an island or a Def Jam, they just didn't understand what we were trying to do. They didn't understand the integrity that we wanted to maintain. It was just like,


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[Assistant] Who gives a fuck what your fans think? Just do it. Everybody else does it and they're making money off of it. And we're like, we have a different relationship.


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[Assistant] Suggestions. Maybe you could say this instead of that. And we put that shit back in and return to the center. It's like you either take this or you don't get shit.


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[Assistant] I mean if you really look at our makeup and people that paint their face, like there is art. Me and him, we don't fuck around. Like we don't want you to see any mistakes in it. Like we really take it serious.


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[Assistant] No, no, he quit like probably like four years before me.


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[Assistant] My son was like, come on, man. He was like six and he was like, you know, you go outside eight times a day. What's up, man? We were playing a game. You gotta leave.


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[Assistant] You know, you go out and meet a pack of girls, right? And I would just sit back and watch how these guys interacted and all the things that they would do and watch how guys would play themselves for these broads and these broads are just like, ah, whatever.


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[Assistant] So I would just sit back and I learned that early, man. Never play yourself for nobody. You know what I mean? And it'd be like that. A girl bring out a bunch of coke and I'm like fucking 15 years old, 14 years old. I'm like, uh,


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[Assistant] It's a big decision. It really is, especially how we came up. Like you really had to step to make it out of where we made it out, bro.


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[Assistant] Right, we got houses, we bought our people's houses and shit like that, but we'll never, I don't want to be like that, because I think when you do get that kind of, uh, fiscal stuff, you know what I mean? You become complacent, you start forgetting why you got that. We've seen it happen to other people, so that's why.


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[Assistant] 25 other people that want your spot. 25 other people that are waiting for you to stop making them videos, that are waiting for us to stop making, doing what we do that want our spot. And it's like, uh, no you won't. We work too goddamn hard to just be like, here's our spot, but just kick him back and be a lazy.


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[Assistant] No man, there's nobody. We've toured with all kinds of people, right? And I'll tell you one thing, is that every other band that we've ever toured with, 90% of their fans don't come and check them out, right?


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[Assistant] We can go play with anybody, and our people will be there. Regardless, regardless, we're like, we're gonna do something crazy. We're playing with Travis Tritt today. No, absolutely. Come out and see us. Who is Travis Tritt? Country guy or something?


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[Assistant] But it ain't like that. Like we don't wear lipstick. This ain't, this aren't lips. This is how our lips look. His shit is chapped. My shit is chapped. My shit is full of luscious.


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[Assistant] Man, but yea, it is what it is. You know, we're never gonna change who we are. We're never gonna change what we represent. We might alter the way that we represent in the fact of evolution. You either evolve or you die.


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[Assistant] We're disconnected from the industry. You know what I mean? They're like...


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[Assistant] I think they're intimidated. You know what I mean? I think a lot of people don't understand what we're about and they become intimidated. But we like a whole lot of people. There's all kinds of motherfuckers.


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[Assistant] Pay attention though, and uhm, you'll be alright.


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[Assistant] You can have some longevity. You just gotta pay attention.


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[Assistant] But it was just- We knew that there was gonna be people that are like, what the fuck?


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[Assistant] But we hoped at the end of the day that the relationship that we built


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[Assistant] With the people that loved us. Would understand that if Twisted is doing it, there's gotta be a fucking good reason. They ain't doing it just to be assholes or just to throw a monkey wrench. Right. Like, and that's all we can hope for, man. And those who did, did.


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[Assistant] So then all of a sudden it became a fucking problem. And we're just like, dude, there's nothing we can do about it. There's nothing. This is what we have to do. This isn't some spiteful thing that we're out to hurt anybody.


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[Assistant] Think about this man, there's somebody in your life that you probably grew up with for 15 years, and in that 15 years, a motherfucker changes. Their views change, certain things change.


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[Assistant] Right, and that's why they were like, hey, we understand that, go do you guys, man, more power to you, anything you need. And then it just fucking fell apart.


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[Assistant] Like they're like, man, we're so upset. Why don't you guys, you know, do this or do that? Like, man, you guys don't understand what that did to us. Like it just rolled off our back. That fucked us up, man. That fucked us up.


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[Assistant] That shit fucked us up, bro. It ain't to be fucking celebrated. It ain't to be lauded. It is something that happened, and we're not happy on everything, but we had to fucking do what we had to do, bro.


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[Assistant] And it's like man, we can't live like that because we built this shit too. We died for this too. That's our blood, sweat and tears.


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[Assistant] Like we affect people's lives in a way that I guess, I don't know, it's very special, bro. It's not like this phony thing where they're like, yeah, you saved my life or whatever. Like they fucking mean it. We mean so much to these


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[Assistant] It ain't, man. We're gonna represent for the Juggalos to the day that we die. And we're tired of them motherfuckers getting a bad rep and always in a bad light because that's what mainstream America wants them to see. They want that movement to look like shit. They want these sitcoms and these comedy shows to go on there and clown on this show.


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[Assistant] We will never stop for them. Never. We will never change. We will always evolve, but we will always be twisted. Always, man.


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[Assistant] Uhm, right now we have a record label called Magic Ninja Entertainment. And it has about...


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[Assistant] Ten motherfuckers that just destroy microphones.


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[Assistant] We put our own comic con on, so a pop culture con. You know what I mean? Thousands of fucking people, everybody comes to see the fresh gas, cool shit like that. When is that? When? Yea. It's in February. Holy shit. In Michigan. In Michigan. We gotta get you there. Oh, I wanna go. That's fucking sick.


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[Assistant] You can come see us right now. There's like probably about 10 days left.


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[Assistant] And uh, it's awesome because we're, this is usually when people bring out a record, they just go do like autographs and shit like that. And we're like, fuck it, we'll just do some shows, perform some of the new shit and just see what happens. Go have some fun and push the record. And that shit has been crazy. It's been awesome.


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[Assistant] Wow. I don't know how we got there. We did an interview one time and I swear to God about 30 minutes into it, the lady leaned over, we're talking about like one of our concerts and she's like, can black people come? It was the most uncomfortable


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[Assistant] No, but man, it's more about the shit that we see, the people that we like, motherfuckers that come to the show and within 30 minutes they see what's going on and they're like, paint my face. Paint my face. Scarface busting in our dressing room.


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[Assistant] And that's another thing, a lot of people just see me in him, it's more than me in him. There's a crew of people around us, man, that we trust with our integrity, we trust with every fiber of our being that helps make this what it is.


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[Assistant] When I see them young kids, man, they're like 12, 13 years old, come through to meet, greet, and I'm like, man.


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[Assistant] That's what they think. That's the message that we send is this debauchery and we're so much deeper than that man. So much deeper than anything.


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[Assistant] This was done with JP Morgan in Italy as a derivative, rather than as a traditional loan. It was not put on the financial statements. It potentially deceives


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[Assistant] The other countries in the Eurozone into thinking that they are cleaning up their books more than they really are.


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[Assistant] Neath the cold depths of the London heart. Hello new kid.


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[Assistant] J's not here. G Bush did show up. G Bush was early today. Shout out G Bush. He's been on a streak, by the way, about a month and a half. Ironman. Of early G Bush after a...


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[Assistant] Yeah, you guys are behind the glass and before we get into today's stuff, I want to mention something we did last night. I want to give G a special shout out.


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[Assistant] So we're going to do, this has been something Earl, myself and Anthony have been speaking about for a while. And, uh, we did the first one last night. We're calling it the behind the glass cast, essentially a podcast, a live stream. We're going to hop on, try and do it once a week. Me, Anthony, Earl.


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[Assistant] Is this a livestream like a post game show? So we get more fan interaction, we take comments live, we can put them on the screen. For whatever reason, and I do not know the answer, are systems downstairs in the studio?


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[Assistant] Don't actually have the capability to put comments on the screen but re-stream.


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[Assistant] I liked it once a week. If there's something breaking, maybe, maybe more, but at least for the summer months here, I liked it once a week. And if you guys like it enough, then maybe it comes twice a week. But for now it is once a week behind the glass. Hopefully you guys go back, check it out. A lot of fun stuff. And Jason, before we get into anything today and Earl, we'll get to the guardians in one sec, but we were taking some trade.


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[Assistant] Unfathomed and out there. One person mentioned yesterday. Wemby. From Mowgli and Garland.


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[Assistant] I don't think there's, yeah, I don't think they trade 1B for anybody. I mean, if they said Jokic for 1B straight up, maybe, Janis maybe, but I don't think they trade him for anybody.


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[Assistant] Tell everybody, if you haven't hit that subscribe button yet, please do. It does help us go a long way. And we're gonna start today, Earl, with the Guardians, who put up 14 runs yesterday. Little fun fact for you guys. It's the second time in Cleveland baseball history of Bellin and Ramirez have home run in the same game.


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[Assistant] Well, either way, it was a 14-1 thrashing over the Royals last night. Ramirez got it started with the Grand Slam early on, then the Guardians kept piling on. Bo Naylor hit his first home run. We're gonna get into the second part of this topic, which is...


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[Assistant] How much of a leak can the Guardians build in first place moving forward? But let's start with the game last night. 14 runs at their highest offensive output of the season.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say are you surprised by the offensive output, but frankly,


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[Assistant] It has become so few and far between these offensive magnifications. Do you think bats are contagious? Like are hot bats contagious in the sense that we saw last night, three home runs lead to 14 runs.


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[Assistant] One, he's six for nineteen in his last five games. That's three hundred, three twelve batting average. Really good. Mike Zito had five hits all of May. I'm serious. In his last five games.


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[Assistant] Mo Nailer has more hits than Mike Zanino had all of May. That's unbelievable. He's 6'19", that's good. 3'12", obviously you take that, you run to the bank, you give him a massive contract if you do it for a career. That's not otherworldly like Luis Arais in Miami.


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[Assistant] And it's still more hits than Mike Zanino's had in the entire month of May. I went back and looked. This was the sixth time the Guardians have scored double digit runs this season.


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[Assistant] On April 3rd, they scored 12 runs in a win over Oakland. They won 4-3 the following day. That's a bug.


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[Assistant] On May 31st, they beat Baltimore 12-8. They followed that up with a 7-6 loss. They beat Boston 10-3.


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[Assistant] So they're averaging 4.8 runs the day after a 10 run outburst, which is way higher than their season average. So I do think there is even a little bit of statistical proof on top of what we see and feel in the eye test and kind of the vibe check.


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[Assistant] That they are hot, but then if we go two games out, then we don't want to talk about that. Trust me. Those numbers, those numbers get real ugly real quick. So hopefully this is the start of something to come for the Guardians. They are now in first place. They have 11 games left before the All-Star break, guys.


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[Assistant] What record do you think, so they have one game against KC.


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[Assistant] They go to Chicago for three games and they have the Braves for three. The Braves are playing unbelievable baseball right now and they come back to Kansas City, or home for Kansas City for four more games. Eleven games before the All-Star break. They are in first place. Earl, can we see the standings?


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[Assistant] They have a half game lead over Minnesota. What do you think the division standings will look like come the All-Star break? Will there still be Guardians in Minnesota? And if so, by how many games will they be ahead of Minnesota for first place?


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[Assistant] And real quick for you Goji, those were teams who ended up winning the division, not necessarily the first place team in the division. So to Bulls, when Bulls says, I'm not sure if a first place team has ever been sub 500 midway through the point and won the division. That's not an apples to apples graphic, but to your point, it's not unheard of for a team who struggled in the first half, catch fire in the second, win the division and make a deep run in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And there's context we have to look at here. If the Guardians today were in the American League West,


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[Assistant] They'd be 10 games below Texas in 4th place. If they were in the AL East, they'd be in dead last place. They'd be in 6th place.


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[Assistant] 16 games behind the Rays. So because they're in first place in the AL Central, we said it all year long, this is not a surprise, the AL Central sucks. If they were in any other division in the American League, as of today, they'd be completely out of it. They're not even in contention for a wild card spot with their sub 500 record. I mean, they are seriously, they would be sixth place below the last place Red Sox in the American League East.


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[Assistant] They have the benefit of playing in the AO Central. When you play in the AO Central, you are literally never dead. Unless you're the Kansas City Royals, who are non-existent. And like you said, on Monday, or Tuesday, they're a quadruple A team. They're so bad. So, I don't say that to be negative about the Guardians. I say that just to put in context where they are. I do think, as you look ahead, we know Terry Francona's teams get better in the summer months.


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[Assistant] We know that some of the guys in this lineup are better than they've been playing.


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[Assistant] Andres Jimenez, better than he's been playing. Jose Ramirez has been better of late.


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[Assistant] I don't think we've seen a typical Jose season to date yet. Josh Bell can't be any worse. He literally can't be any worse. And I think Bo Naylor, by the fact that he's alive, playing.


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[Assistant] So when these pieces kind of come together, there's a lot of hope for this Guardians team to not just take a little step forward and end up being, you know, 84 and 78 and win the division based on the fact that everyone else around them is terrible. I think they have the pieces to come together, especially with the young pitching and Williams, Bybee, Allen.


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[Assistant] You have the pitching pieces in place. You have the pieces in the lineup that in theory should play better as the season goes along to at least put an ounce of fear. I'm not saying this the big bad boogie monster of the American league, but it's also not a team you see on the playoffs schedule and just be like, oh, that's a cakewalk. Let's look ahead and pencil ourselves into the next round.


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[Assistant] We talked about this when Mackenzie was coming back from injury the first time. And I know Jay was sitting here and Jay made the point. When he was in the dugout, it seemed like...


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[Assistant] He was kind of the energizer buddy the team was feeding off. And even the offense, he just seemed to be a locker room guy, a clubhouse guy that everyone loved to be around. And whether or not that actually translates directly to on field results, there's no way to actually tell. But it seemed like he started playing a little better. Gavin Williams comes up last week. His first start, okay, not great.


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[Assistant] Do you think he has the potential to be a guy that the team kind of galvanizes around as, hey,


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[Assistant] Oh, Tony calls his own pitches. Yeaah. He's got that little thing on his bicep that he pushes a button and it buzzes the catcher and he's like, I'm throwing fastball, boom, catcher note.


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[Assistant] So to bring this back to the Guardian, the Capit, before we move on. They play the Royals.


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[Assistant] Royals to like 7 other teams and they came back to the Royals. He's the only person that ever wanted to go back to Kansas City. Sampling LA and Phoenix and all the other quality cities.


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[Assistant] Not just in real life, but in catching terms, because he wasn't always a catcher coming through the system.


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[Assistant] Who's Michael Kelly? I'm not familiar with who that is in their mind at least. I don't know, it's probably reliever. Alan pitched yesterday, so it makes sense that he'd be optioned down if they needed an extra arm of the bullpen. I have no...


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[Assistant] I mean, he did pitch great yesterday. I mean, he threw 98 pitches through three and a half innings, but he didn't give up any runs, so.


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[Assistant] They have too many pitchers right now. They do. They gotta figure out the rotation because they have six, seven guys who are competing for starts and you can't go to a seven man rotation. That's just not plausible.


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[Assistant] Well, are we gonna get right into the topic, girl? Cause if it does, it sleeds into one of the


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[Assistant] Well I know Jason's gonna go off on this one. So Jason, do you want to start or do you want to back clean up here?


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[Assistant] I think it's fair to criticize JB Bickerstad. I think it's fair to say this team had no playoff experience last year. But I think this roster, top to bottom, is extremely flawed. I have two main rules in basketball.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of little ones, but two main ones I live and die by. One.


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[Assistant] Wings, win, rings, and two, you can't win if you can't shoot. Let's look at this Cuban Cavaliers roster for a sec. To my fellows to the right. How would you grade the Cavs cluster of wing players?


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[Assistant] But in totality, they have the start. They drafted Mowgli.


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[Assistant] They traded for Donovan Mitchell. They drafted and re-signed Darius Garland. Jared Allen fits in that role. He's an all-star. I don't think he's an elite caliber player, but he's certainly good. They've done the hard part, and I'm gonna steal Jason's line. I know he's probably gonna touch on this again, but it's the other parts of the roster that they have.


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[Assistant] In my opinion, catastrophically failed to fill out, to maximize the talent at the top. You can't go into.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it worked in the regular season, but they weren't tough enough in the post. They didn't have a dog. That comes to your general manager, to your front office, to find guys to fill those side roles on this roster, to give this team a little toughness, a little grit, and even veteran leadership.


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[Assistant] Kobe Altman and the front office credit for trying to get Danny Green. It didn't work out as they planned because he didn't turn out to be the player that they thought he could be with the rest of the season moving forward. And we look at these numbers. Offensively they were efficient because they didn't shoot a lot of threes.


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[Assistant] In today's day and age, you wouldn't die by the three. This Cavs team was built to play basketball in like 2004.


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[Assistant] Newsflash, that was two decades ago. This roster is not currently constructed to win in today's era of NBA basketball. And for that, if there was all the issues in the Cavs, and I do think it's fair to criticize other facets, the poor roster construction, in my opinion, is their biggest flaw. Last year, and without some major changes, will be their biggest flaw heading into next season.


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[Assistant] It's like you say, if you don't have a good 3, you can win with a top 20 player of all time.


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[Assistant] Not a top 20 player in today's NBA. Right. Top 20 all time. And that's where Steph Jokic and those guys fall into. That's exactly it. Donovan Mitchell, all NBA second team. Obviously a very, very good player and all-star. He should make three, four, five, six, seven more all NBA teams in his career. But I don't think anyone's going to come up here and argue that he's a top five, six, seven guy in the NBA. Earl.


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[Assistant] Wings are like gold in the NBA. Like really good wings just don't-


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[Assistant] Get traded. It's happened. Paul George has moved. Kawhi got traded, but look at the returns that those guys have brought back. Now Mitchell brought back a significant haul in his own right. Like that's not to discriminate what the cash go from Mitchell for anyone else. But when you say they should have went shopping for a wing.


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[Assistant] The other team's barely playing defense. They just don't try.


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[Assistant] You can say that's not true, I'm telling you. Like, I'm telling you, they don't try. Night to night, you can't game plan for guys. Yeah, exactly. Cause it's such a quick turnout in the postseason team step up the defensive intensity because they know, Hey,


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[Assistant] Their style of play, where all he does is catch the ball, take step back three.


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[Assistant] Jason, I want you to start, because I actually texted you yesterday to confirm what I thought, but will you explain why there's a 0.0% chance they don't re-sign Karas Levert?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with Jason on that, and the move, you can say, what's that one move? The move is mobile develops a jump shot. And I don't, like,


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[Assistant] All the, not all the Cavs issues, a majority of the Cavs issues, spacing wise, having a perimeter guy in the corner when these dudes drive to kick out to.


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[Assistant] It's not all solved with Evan Mobley becoming a consistent three point shooter, but it alleviates so much pressure on the rest of the offense. And he did not take, like this is a knock on Mobley. We expected, and we talked about it yesterday on the show,


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[Assistant] The jump from a rookie year to year two. We talked about it in terms of football yesterday with Titus, but it happens in all sports. And Mowgli was better in year two than he was in year one, but he was the worst jump shooter.


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[Assistant] Now, part of that is opportunities, part of that is not getting into the rhythm of the offenses frequently with Donovan Mitchell, but hey.


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[Assistant] Jump shooting something you can work it on your own. And I don't care if you get four opportunities, you get eight opportunities. You got to make the most of those opportunities. And Evan Mobley needs to show some sort of significant improvement in my mind in terms of his jump shooting.


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[Assistant] If he's gonna ever reach the potential, I think Jason, you allude to the ceiling, that true unicorn status that we all think he could become. And that's why the Cavs drafted him third overall. That's the move that unlocks the rest of the roster without adding another guy who costs 30, 40, $50 million within house. That sound good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, could it happen? Yeah, I don't know. Like, I thought it was going to take a baby step towards that last year. He went in the opposite direction, but I'm going to hope, you know, one step forward, two steps back.


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[Assistant] And like, you could have good form, you could have good mechanics. Some guys just never develop the touch that takes to consistently make it an open jump shot or even a contested jump shot in the NBA. And I don't have any reason to believe Mobley can't develop that, but it has happened to guys.


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[Assistant] And two and a half seasons yet, you could, you could develop into something later, but you can't keep waiting in a championship.


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[Assistant] He has to be a five if he can't shoot and you can't play two fives together.


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[Assistant] Earl, it is officially noon and you know what that means.


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[Assistant] John, we appreciate you taking some time. We'll get into the real stuff first, but I see you got a mini basketball hoop over your right shoulder there, John.


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[Assistant] How many times a day do you walk past that, take a shot, dunk and yell, Kobe? If it's under 10, I'm disappointed in you.


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[Assistant] So John, but right before you came on, we were talking about the Cavs and some of their, their current roster construction. They currently have two bigs who at the moment today,


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[Assistant] Would be considered non-shooters. Do you see a fix within this current roster? We were talking about maybe, or hopefully having Evan Mobley develop a jump shot that could kind of unlock this team's offensive potential. Or do you believe it has to come from someone outside, whether it be free agency or a trade?


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[Assistant] Well that actually leads right to my next question, John. Outside of being a Cleveland Die Hard, you do a lot of your work in the college basketball realm. And you watch more and know more about college basketball than maybe anyone we've ever had on this show. We realize college basketball in Cleveland doesn't mess us as well as Cleveland Browns and Cleveland fans do.


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[Assistant] I'm in the middle of a deep dive into Imani Bates. G has watched, he says, 30 games of his. I know you know college basketball better than anyone.


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[Assistant] I haven't heard you give your thoughts on a money base, but what do you think of the Cavs pick at 49?


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[Assistant] That is John Fanta, college basketball extraordinaire, Cleveland native and diehard, making his debut on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. The first but not the last John, we appreciate you taking this time to hang out with us today.


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[Assistant] Awesome. That was Jon Fenton. We're gonna pivot now to a little Brown's talk and this is something that we have had a back and forth with relationship over the last...


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[Assistant] At least a couple weeks, maybe going on a month now, but the DeAndre Hopkins saga. It was reported yesterday, Sal Palantonio, who was on ESPN Radio.


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[Assistant] Not in Cleveland, just nationally said that the Browns are still lurking for DeAndre Hopkins. And then a few hours later, Albert Breer came out and said,


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[Assistant] The Browns are content with their wide receiver court and they will not be pursuing DeAndre Hopkins. Mary Kay Cabot came on the radio this morning and doubled down on that saying you could take to the bank. Hopkins will not be a Brown.


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[Assistant] Jason G who wants to start, like it, love it, hate it, DeAndre Hopkins Browns, the rumors officially appear to be squashed.


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[Assistant] I actually have an issue with this, and you touched on it yesterday, Earl, the only


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[Assistant] Known factor in the receiver room is Amari Cooper. Everyone else?


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[Assistant] Is potential. Elijah Moore could be really good. We just haven't seen it yet. DPJ is a solid receiver. We don't know.


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[Assistant] I think this is an all in year for the Browns. We've talked about it. If they get off to a bad start, I think Stefanski's gone, I think a lot of guys are getting fired, and this could turn into a situation where a lot of the guys that we've become accustomed to seeing in a Cleveland Browns uniform are not there.


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[Assistant] In an all-in year, in an AFC as loaded as it is top to bottom, where there are 10 teams who I think legitimately could be in contention for a playoff spot.


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[Assistant] I think Hopkins, at minimum, is the difference in at least one win. Do you guys think that's crazy?


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[Assistant] That ain't crazy. A game where he goes off, dominates, has two touchdowns, and we look back and say hey.


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[Assistant] DeAndre Hopkins was the X Factor in this game that allowed us to win. And in a crowded AFC.


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[Assistant] One win is the difference between going 9 and 8, 10 and 7, 11 and 6. And I think there's going to be 6-7 teams in that range.


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[Assistant] Where one difference is the spot of making the playoffs or sitting home in January. And they're all in. Like at this point, why not take that last step and go all in?


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[Assistant] I said from the beginning, I didn't think there was anything Cleveland could do extra.


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[Assistant] To attract DeAndre Hopkins to the Browns. Like if he wanted to play with Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] If he wanted to be a brown, he would have been a brown. I didn't think there was any...


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[Assistant] Financial number amount they would have offered that would change him from being like, oh, I'd rather go to New England than Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Because I think the money's giving me the same. I just don't get it, and I'm actually aligned with Earl on this one. To me it sounds like this is Andrew Berry saying...


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[Assistant] I like more, I like DPJ, I like Bell, I like the rest of the guys in the room, Tillman. Outside Cooper, obviously Cooper is an established number one. I don't think we need him.


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[Assistant] And my point is, this AFC is so freaking loaded, top to bottom. Literally, you have the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals, the Browns, the Ravens, the Seals are competitive, the whole AFC East, all four teams are there, you have Jacksonville like,


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[Assistant] That's 10 teams. I think I should count on 11. 11 teams that will be fighting for 7 spots. And this is a year. If this was last year for the Browns to be like, okay, it's year one of Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] You still have a lot of guys whose contracts are not at their tipping point. Maybe you don't need them, you see how this year goes, then next year we go all in. I think this is an all-in season for Cleveland.


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[Assistant] It is. In my opinion, it's an all in year for Cleveland. And if you're


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[Assistant] All in, you're all in. You can't be 85% all in.


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[Assistant] If you're all in, go get DeAndre Hopkins. Make him an offer he can't say no to. Because I do think, at minimum, he's the difference in one win. And one win's the difference of us saying,


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[Assistant] Who's going to be the head coach of the Cleveland Browns next year and say, Hey, Kevin, it's the fancy took us to the second round of the AFC playoffs. Give the man a 10 year extension.


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[Assistant] But actually, you just made me think of something, and Jason, to your point, I'm gonna do a little spin zone here, pro Browns fans, ready?


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[Assistant] Maybe Watts is in there saying, hey, DPJ is a frickin' baller. Yeaah, like he might- And he might be like, listen,


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[Assistant] He was my favorite target in certain scramble situations last year. I know that's not his typical makeup, but guess what? We have developed this chemistry. And yeah, Dehas my guy. I love him, but.


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[Assistant] I want DPJ in the field, and if we bring in Hopkins and DPJ's not there, I'm not saying that's happening, but maybe that is the conversation Watson's having with Stefanski and Barry behind scenes that we're not privy to, that we look at it and say, well D-Hop's an upgrade over DPJ, bring him in, but Watson on the back end's like, nah, DPJ's my guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And also if someone gets hurt to sign someone mid-season, you have to have a little cast space open to sign somebody. There are reasons financially not to bring them in. My point is, in my opinion, this is


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[Assistant] This is all in season. Like, if jobs are on the line, you go all in. You don't care about next year if you don't have next year's guarantee.


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[Assistant] I thought you were gonna go Ricky Bobby, I'll be honest. I thought you were gonna go Ricky Bobby in the chat.


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[Assistant] We're doing good. Houston, my first question is, it's kinda simple, but how does a student from North Texas, the Dallas area,


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[Assistant] End up creating the Cleveland Browns Dog Pound logo.


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[Assistant] I got, let's go. Giggum. Uh, no, I do have one tiny little qualm with your logo, though. I just gotta ask this. The only, you know, we can't have you on and give you all compliments.


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[Assistant] You stretched Ohio in the dog's right ear.


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[Assistant] To an extent that I'm not quite sure it qualifies as the state of Ohio. Uh, kudos to you for trying to squeeze it in. That's the only thing that I thought may have been a little taken out of context with the fact you got 13 in. Yeah, there it is in the,


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[Assistant] If you're looking at the screen in the left ear, it would be the dog's right ear. Oh, okay. I see it. It's like, it's Ohio-ish. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think there was over 10,000 submissions, right? If I remember correctly, over 10,000?


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[Assistant] Well, that's because they didn't get all of them officially submitted to the correct website. We actually want to show you, we took a stab at creating our own logos on this show ourselves, and none of us are graphic designers, or I believe you have hours


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[Assistant] Oh my god, who did that? That was mine. Own it. That's mine.


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[Assistant] Houston, have you been approached by anyone else since this Brown's logo became official to do some other collage of creations?


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[Assistant] Who from the Browns organization did you talk to throughout this process? Like did you ever have a conversation with, you know, Jimmy Haslam about


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[Assistant] This, like I doubt it got that high, but like who throughout the organization ever did you have a communication with or a conversation with?


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[Assistant] We'll put some of the, the new dog pound logo gear on display here in the set. Enjoy your trip in Italy. Safe travels back and go brownies. And giggle.


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[Assistant] Alright, this is gonna be just a wing, straight off the cuff, off the dome. You know what we say, preparation, overrated. All the show notes I spent last night this morning making, overrated. Why would I do that when I could just fly off the dome? No, real talk.


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[Assistant] You can't take away my summer from me. I moved here last year. Weather was picture perfect.


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[Assistant] 80 degrees, no humidity. I was out on the beach as much as possible. I didn't have any friends with pools yet. Now I do and guess what? Haven't been able to use them. You know why? Because your weather choices have sucked. So this is the final take to you Mother Nature. Get this Canadian haze out of my face.


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[Assistant] Get these cloudy nights out of the way. Get the rain. Push it away. I need sunshine. I bought a damn new bike. Guess how many times I've been able to ride this bike? Three times.


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[Assistant] That's about 15 times not enough for how much I spent on that bike. Which we're not going to talk about. But it's a good bike. Thanks dad for helping me pay for that. But! All in all.


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[Assistant] Where the hell has the summer weather been? It is way too late in the season to not have more summer days. The Guardians games have been nice, but you haven't had that real summer feel yet. And we can't be a week away from 4th of July, me looking around saying I'm wearing jeans and a sweatshirt and I feel good going out. That is not right. Fix it ASAP.


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[Assistant] Alright Earl, before you go real quick, I gotta give Anthony's boy Nick a shout out. Steve, can you get a shot of my shirt?


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[Assistant] This is the coolest Cleveland shirt I now own. Anthony's friend Nick got it for him at a garage sale. It's an extra schmedium on me. Uhm, Anthony gave it to me because he was like, there's just not a chance it's gonna fit. So he gave it to me. It's the coolest shirt I own. That's a really good shape for it, right?


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[Assistant] Anthony, get on the mic. This is a garage sale, right? I'm not, I'm not blotching the story. Yeah, it was a yard sale. Yard sale, garage sale. Yeah. So shout out Nick for coming through with the clutch with this Bernie Kozer shirt. Now officially the coolest shirt I own.


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[Assistant] Big facts, can't say any better. I know we gotta wrap up here, we talked about it earlier in the show. Go check out last night's behind the glass screen.


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[Assistant] Sistras from the V-I-L-I-R-A-T-A-I-E.


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[Assistant] We were all worried about what we were seeing. We knew that the credit system was...


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[Assistant] I was one who was critical of the stress test and worried that the scale was going to be tilted in a way that you'd get the result you want. You know, it's not that hard to cook a stress test and make it look like you're in much better shape than you are.


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[Assistant] Looking back, I actually think they were pretty effective. And if anything, the financial sector is highly profitable again. I think the problem is that they're about the only ones that are highly profitable right now. And so that leads to, I think, very justifiable anger at bailouts that didn't help the middle class enough.


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[Assistant] That big decisions that are actually of, uh, of great importance, uhm, are still being made. And they're being made in a climate where they're not necessarily under public scrutiny, where the lobbyists have a chance to get in and sway things their way.


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[Assistant] I very much worry that we haven't learned the lessons that this crash should have taught us.


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[Assistant] I can see that I have underestimated you. Accept my apology. It wont happen again.


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[Assistant] I confess, I had not expected to see you here.


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[Assistant] Tim Geithner thought that if they did not do everything they had to do to save AIG, as distasteful as it was,


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[Assistant] They had an almost immediate mind meld. They'd both grown up partly abroad. They both had a parent who worked for the Ford Foundation, uhm, and they had a similar worldview.


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[Assistant] Geithner looked like he was about 12 years old. He is not a good public speaker.


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[Assistant] And he just seemed like he wasn't ready for prime time. First.


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[Assistant] Summers is very smart, very experienced, and has very sharp elbows.


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[Assistant] And they, on the communications front, they, they were flat-footed.


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[Assistant] There was no interest, no incentive inside the White House for doing structural reform.


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[Assistant] The problem was the timing. It was 2010 and by 2010 the banks had recovered.


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[Assistant] They, uh, were much more aggressive, they were no longer under the thumb of the government, and they, they could, you know, water down big parts of the bill, buy off senators, and have more of their way.


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[Assistant] That's an abstraction that can't be proven, that you prevented something that didn't happen. And it's a much harder sell


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[Assistant] To say to the American people, as he's doing in this election, it could have been worse.


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[Assistant] It's true, but it's not a very good or very strong political argument.


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[Assistant] And then suddenly, around 11 o'clock, there's a tremor. The stock starts to go down.


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[Assistant] By midnight, by 1, 2 in the morning, everybody and their mother has teams at bear. Uh, Morgan, Fed, the SEC.


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[Assistant] And they find out there is stuff to the gills with toxic waste.


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[Assistant] Hey, here we are on a Thursday morning. I'm back. Jason's back. Gene Bush is always here. He never goes home. He just lives here all the time. Got a pillow and a blanket over there.


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[Assistant] It's basically just salt water with juice. Yes it is. So delicious.


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[Assistant] Jason, G, myself, and Anthony, who represents the production team, will sub-part group.


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[Assistant] We'll be doing a, a, uh, a draft, a snake draft, so 16 players will be picked. The best players in their sport right now.


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[Assistant] Who are the 99s and who are the 99 pluses, basically? Of all the sports, it's not just baseball, football, and basketball. Probably where we'll lean the most because it's the sports we know the best.


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[Assistant] But, uh, take anybody. The top 16 players in theory will be drafted and then you folks will have to decide who's got the best team. G always has the edge there because he has more people that love him in the chat room.


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[Assistant] Well alright. They also, our chat people are also big homers, so if you lean towards Cleveland people, you get an advantage there. We'll see. Will there be any Cleveland players drafted in that 16? That's an interesting question that we'll find out later.


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[Assistant] Also today we'll talk about potential Damien Lillard trade. We'll talk about the Cleveland Guardians falling on their face and uh, Cal Quantrill who's been


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[Assistant] Uh, horrendous so far this season. Uh, maybe even why Miles Straw continues to be the lineup every day. But he threw a guy out at the plate! He's the first center fielder to ever do that in the history of paintball! It's never happened before! That's all coming up.


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[Assistant] I'm only here Thursday and Friday the next two weeks. Then I'll be on a full week, then I'll be off a full week, and then basically I'm back to being on every day after that. So there you go. Make sure you write that down. There'll be a quiz on it later.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, I got a few beefs. Number one, I hate soft talkers, alright? This is bothering me, this is pissing me off. If I come in to your business, I'm ordering something from you, you work in a restaurant, whatever, don't be a freaking soft talker. Soft talkers are annoying and they should all be kicked out.


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[Assistant] And then the woman behind the counter was like mumbling to me. I'm like, I don't know what you're saying. I didn't say that, but that's what I wanted to say. Eh, you know, sometimes- Mumble! Speak!


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[Assistant] That's true. As loud as I am, my mother was here about a week ago. When she talks in my car, my ears hurt. She's so loud, my ears hurt. And you can't imagine anybody being louder than me. And obviously I got a much deeper voice than she has, but her voice is so loud, it is irresistible.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. You can barely hear people in a drive thru to begin with.


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[Assistant] That is frustrating. That is frustrating. No doubt. Another thing I'm pissed off about. People that don't know how to park.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, first of all, I get it. You know, where I'm from, you have to parallel park all the time. And here, you don't have to parallel park that much. But, if you can't parallel park, get the hell out of the way.


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[Assistant] Is it really that hard? Is your car so freaking special that you have to take up to? I want to smash into cars. If I could, if I didn't destroy my own car by doing it, I want to smash into people that put their cars in two spots because they're such a big shot. They don't want anybody touching their car.


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[Assistant] I want, but this is important, it's about Little League. Okay? Now you have my attention. I need to know, okay, so we're playing a Little League playoff game, okay? We lost our first round playoff game, so we're out. It was disappointing. We were playing the best team in the league.


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[Assistant] And our team is, has been the worst team in the league.


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[Assistant] Uh, he quit, had to quit the team because dad, it was a whole thing before the season started because he'd signed up for another sport and there's not enough time, well, unfortunately. And, uh, then my, one of my other top players was, was away with his family on vacation. So we were, we were, we were already shorthanded. We were even more shorthanded.


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[Assistant] So most people, I think everybody in the league thought we were going to get crushed. Now, the team we were playing, they have one really special pitcher and then they have three other kids that are pretty good pitchers.


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[Assistant] I figured he would save his special pitcher for the next round, because it was going to be his toughest opponent in the next round. Which he did. Okay? So I was like, I, so as soon as I saw that, even though I knew it was going to happen, I told my kids, they're disrespecting you, blah, blah, blah. I built it up. We got off to a good start. We scored four runs in the first. We got robbed of an extra base hit in the second, which would have put us thick, thick one.


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[Assistant] But, so later in the game, it's 6-5, close game, we got the bases loaded, alright?


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[Assistant] We ended up not scoring and they tacked on the bottom of the fourth and then we ran out of time. So we lost 9-5 in the end. But it was 6-5 before they lifted up. Anyway, the reason I'm bringing this up is...


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[Assistant] So we had bases loaded, so the runners can't go anywhere unless the ball's hit or there's a walk. Correct.


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[Assistant] So the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, gets over the pitcher's head. My son is on second base.


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[Assistant] Clearly a case thing to be made for the defense. You guys have already made it. So I'm not gonna go there. The offense, the defense was crap last year. It has the potential to be real good. Special teams, I expect to take a big jump this season.


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[Assistant] They have a coach who was a special teams guru. They have signed two players that are specific special teams guys. Something the Browns haven't really done in recent history. And I expect their kicker who was shaky last year but made some impressive kicks.


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[Assistant] To be more reliable in 2023. However, when I look at special teams, I still have question marks.


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[Assistant] When I look at the defense, I still got question marks. I expect the Browns defense to be better, but their linebackers are still garbage in my opinion.


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[Assistant] I still have major concerns about the Browns at defensive tackle.


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[Assistant] They've added one legitimate starter at defensive tackle. Yes, on paper they've gotten a lot better at defensive end.


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[Assistant] But, until we see it on the field and they gotta develop that chemistry, that's gonna take time. I expect the Browns defense to be significantly better the second half of the season, not necessarily the first half. The secondary is pretty much the same.


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[Assistant] The offense has no excuse. The offense has a good play caller, contrary to popular belief from some.


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[Assistant] He's been there for years. The quarterback and the play caller have been working together for over a year. Not the case on defense.


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[Assistant] They have, the offensive line is on paper, one of the best in the league.


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[Assistant] The running back, the starting running back is one of the best in the league. The wide receiver is not one of the best in the league, but still solid and improved. Good. At least, you know, middle of the pack. I'd still love them to sign DeAndre Hopkins. I believe they need DeAndre Hopkins.


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[Assistant] I don't know if they'll do it, but even without them, they're still improved in that area.


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[Assistant] With the additions that they've made, again, at least on paper. And at tight end, they're pretty good. You know, not an elite group, but certainly at the back end of the top ten. They are loaded on offense. They have, they, and...


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[Assistant] Now there are people out there that are going to try to argue that he was okay, that it was this and no, let's keep it real. Deshaun Watson played like a bum last year. I'm expecting Deshaun Watson to play like a star this season. If he does, the Browns will be great.


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[Assistant] So I don't believe it's gonna happen. So I have to believe he's gonna be a superstar again. And if he is, the offense, which yea wasn't as bad as the defense, but their offense could be as good as any in the league.


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[Assistant] They could easily have a top five offense. I don't believe the Browns could be a top five defense. Now, maybe they can, and maybe you'd argue, well, if they're coming from 27 and they get up to 9, well, that's a bigger jump. I got more faith in the offense being consistently good for the whole year than I do the defense.


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[Assistant] I'm expecting, you know, a good season from them.


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[Assistant] I'm expecting the offense to be elite. I'm not expecting the defense to be elite, expecting it to be solid.


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[Assistant] Do you agree that Watson played like a bum? Of course. Right? So nothing that, like, if your quarterback goes from playing like a bum to playing like a superstar, that's more growth than you can do from anything else.


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[Assistant] To a point, yes. However, if, if, if Houston Deshaun Watson had played those games, it would never have come down to that.


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[Assistant] Defense. Let me ask you a question. Give me Jacobi Brzeczek's numbers in those games.


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[Assistant] Overall, it was average because Nick Chubb's great, but if you go to me, a jump from crap defense to solid defense, I'd rather make the jump from average offense to elite offense.


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[Assistant] But guys, here's the bottom line. You guys are, it's a bigger assumption. Like, for me, for the offense to significantly improve, I essentially need one thing to happen. To Sean Watson to play like he already has in his career. For the defense to improve significantly, you need a lot of things to happen.


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[Assistant] Let me make it clear. I think the Browns defense is going to be a lot better, just like you guys do.


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[Assistant] There's more of a slack guy than a return guy. Andrew Hawkins, great guy, he's big time now.


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[Assistant] It makes sense. Alright, Mike, let's keep it moving now. Alright, real quick, I just want to tell you the results of this poll. Whenever we do that, it's


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[Assistant] Uh, because I, I gotta look at soccer, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was my, one of my three choices that I was considering.


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[Assistant] I can't take two soccer players. I just can't do it. Question is, do I take? Take Joe Burrow. That's who you should


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with, in honor of Tyvis, I'm gonna go with Giannis.


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[Assistant] Gee, Bush dropped the ball! Uh, absolutely washed. We should play in Saudi Arabia for the money. Even I know there's two other guys who are better than him.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take, uh, tough call. I got two baseball players, one soccer guy.


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[Assistant] Guy might go 40-40 this year. He's having a great season.


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[Assistant] It was already one of the best players in baseball, but I think he moves ahead right now of Judge and Trout who are hurt.


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[Assistant] It's unbelievable. I mean, he's the best hitter in baseball right now. Right now, best hitter in baseball.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, production team, final two picks.


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[Assistant] Fourth and final pick, alright. We got that, uh, one of the, that Scandinavian soccer player.


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[Assistant] We've got, uh, Joel Embiid, but he's a big choker. We could go Aaron Judge here, and I could have two of the three best baseball players. Mike Trout is well past his prime.


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[Assistant] Oh, and Judge does? He does? No, he does not. How many stolen bases does Aaron Judge have? Probably about five. This year? Yeah, tell me. Tell me how many Mike Trout has. How many Judge has, how many Trout has. Okay.


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[Assistant] I got the second best basketball player, the second best football player, and the second and third best. Oh no, I took a soccer guy. Best soccer guy, second best football player, and second and third best baseball player.


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[Assistant] Football hard, bro. Football's tough. Where's Mahomes at? Mahomes has won two. LeBron has won four.


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[Assistant] I mean, in general, yes, the best basketball player is worth more than the best football player, I think. If he's generational, which LeBron is.


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[Assistant] I thought last year there was a fair argument for Judge, but this year there's no argument for anybody.


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[Assistant] He's not number one in the world right now. He's number one in the world. Do the folks in the, uh, uh, in the chat get mad when I pick fun of them? Probably. Yeah, they don't like that. They don't like that. They call me fat.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Braves are the best team in baseball. They haven't lost a series in like six weeks. They've won.


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[Assistant] How about this stat that I tweeted two days ago, but it's still, uh, up to date. The Braves have more home runs since the first week of June.


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[Assistant] Then the Guardians do since September, the middle of late September last year.


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[Assistant] In their last 29 games, the Braves have hit, I wanna say, 70 homeruns, 69-70 homeruns.


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[Assistant] I don't understand. Why would you give up on a guy who played great for them last year? Why? Because he's got a wild swing? Maybe they need a couple of guys with wild swings.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of guys who don't have great plate discipline that are great in the majors for a number of years. And then eventually they go over the cliff. Javi Baez was an excellent player for five, six years. He has no plate discipline.


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[Assistant] Well I can get more from him than I can't, at least from him I can get, uh, a lottery pick. For Miles Straw, I have to give up something to get rid of Miles.


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[Assistant] But I'm just saying, if my, if, if Ahmed Rosario's hot play could get me even a one, you know, a nothing return, a little return.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well the Zanino at least is only this year. The Bell is going to go into next year because there's no chance he's opting out of that. The straw contract, he's got guaranteed money for three more years. He's guaranteed another 20 million after this year over three years. That's awful.


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[Assistant] Awful. He is a useless player. Anybody who thinks he's a starter is ridiculous.


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[Assistant] He's a bench player. He won a gold glove, he's not useless. He won a gold glove, he's not useless. Alright, useless is too strong. He's a bench player, fair? Fair. Okay.


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot of guys that are good centerfielders.


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[Assistant] They're both hideous teams, two of the worst teams I've ever seen in baseball. We would talk, I was at the, I went to watch one of the other little league games yesterday and talked with some of the other dads and we were talking about who the Guardians could trade for. I'm like, the Royals and A's have really no body.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't have the stats in front of me of when that's worked. I do know that, uhm, what was the picture?


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[Assistant] If he doesn't, if he has the surgery now, then he's good to go for 25. If he waits for the end of the year, this is going to affect his 25 season as well.


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[Assistant] And here's the thing, Jason, if you say, well, maybe they'll decide in September or whatever, like, is he gonna pitch? If he doesn't pitch, what's gonna change your opinion?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, in my mind, you gotta, it sucks, but you gotta think there's a good chance he's not pitching until 2025.


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[Assistant] I don't know. This could be crushing for the Guardians because they rely on taking advantage of these good pitchers when they're pre-arbitration. That's gone. Yeaah. I mean, but just because he's hurt, he still gets his service time.


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[Assistant] They traded Bower, he's been nothing. They traded Bower, he had the one MVP in, uh, Cy Young season in the COVID year, but then he's been a disaster since. And they traded, who am I forgetting?


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[Assistant] Has nothing to do with where their understandings, it's that maybe his value is just so low at the moment that they don't, they wait till the offseason.


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[Assistant] The problem is, you like, somebody, somebody texted me, or somebody sent me a tweet and said, like, the Orioles have all these good young hitters.


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[Assistant] Would they trade, who's the kid they just called up? Couser. Colton Couser. Colton Couser. Like another one. He's my guy.


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[Assistant] They've called up all these kids. They called up Gunnar Henderson. They called up, uh, Kouser. They called up Adley Rutchman last year. And the best one is still to come. The best one is Matt Holliday's kid. Jackson Holliday. Jackson Holliday is the best one. He's a couple years away. They're not trading him. No. He got kids that old.


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[Assistant] And so, but like who are the, the Orioles aren't giving up any of those guys for, for, for Shane Bieber. None of them. Maybe Kouser.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you look at the rest of their division, like the Yankees pitching's not that good.


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[Assistant] But if everybody needs pitching, then maybe you don't need pitching. I don't know. Like, I don't know that Shane Bieber is a difference maker at this point. Marcus Strowman is pitching way over his head, but somebody's going to overpay for him probably. I wouldn't want it to be me. Who's Baltimore's best


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[Assistant] And Josh Bell for the sweetener. They wouldn't trade Ali De La Cruz for anybody. Yeah. Oh, Donnie? For Cruz, straight up. No. No.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he talked shit after he, after the, uh, after the Nationals tried to complain about his bat.


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[Assistant] Because obviously he's not, he's not the best player in baseball because he's young, but. The contract situation. Because of the contract and how good he is and how good he's been so far. Oh, you were asking about the thing. So Elie De La Cruz had this little cap on the bottom of his bat that apparently


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[Assistant] You get readings of how fast the ball is, you know, coming off the bat, all these ex- I don't know what it is exactly.


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[Assistant] And so he, after he hit a home run, which was a bomb to the upper deck, he is huge, by the way. He's 6'5". Yeaah, and he's a monster. Yeaah. Uh, yeaah, no, if I'm the Reds, the Reds...


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[Assistant] But I thought it would take them another year, but Dayla Cruz is awesome.


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[Assistant] I love it. Did you see Carlos Santana speaking of which? Wow. When he hit that walk off for the Pirates? Do you have that video?


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[Assistant] Those are cool. His colors are like the old ones. But watch this. I can't believe he did this.