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[Assistant] Yeah, Mighty Mouse. I don't have any problems with this. I think they can do some damage. I definitely do. Yeah, Cliff is, Cliff's tough. You know, he's a scrapper himself. And yeah, he's, I would say, Cliff's 6'4", sneaky, more muscular than people realize. He is in shape still.


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[Assistant] And Kyler, uh, people like Kyler, listen, there's a reason he can run 4-2 and things like that. Why? Cause he has really powerful explosive muscles. Yes. He'd be the kind of guy where I'd go, I don't want, yes, you wouldn't want it. He'd be a pain in the butt.


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[Assistant] Oh, you think they should be higher on the list? Man, Dak Prescott's gotta be one of the all-ass kickers at quarterback.


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[Assistant] That might have to work, yeaah. I mean, McCarthy, it's, you're, you're, he's thick. Like, I, McCarthy, I wanna say is like 6'3".


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[Assistant] And then Dak comes in and throws the knockout punches. I like that.


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[Assistant] Uh, but Zimmer's tough as hell. Mike Zimmer's tough. Tough as hell. He'll beat the crap out of Florio. I know that for sure. Did I ever tell you that story? No, they fought. Florio said something about him once, right? I know it kind of pissed Zimmer off or whatever. So we had Zimmer on the show and I said, hey, you want me to get him for you? You want me to take him down? And he goes,


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[Assistant] I can handle him myself. I love it. It was awesome.


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[Assistant] Yeah, pressure points. Right, right. You like touch you on your trap, and you'd be like, ahh, and you'd go down your knees. He might, he might be that kind of guy. He was Zimmer in his prime. I wouldn't mess with Zimmer. I'm with you in everything you're talking about. Tough as hell, run through a wall.


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[Assistant] Probably could get punched in the face and laugh and like punch you back. Right. 65 year old Zimmer, I don't know if I'm gonna get behind that.


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[Assistant] That was really good. I will say, near right, spider two wide banana's not gonna work because the fillback would be on the weak side in that formation, so that'd be a little tough there. So, but that's alright.


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[Assistant] Too quick, you don't need to be quick, I mean I understand if it's like we're getting down on the play clock, but.


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[Assistant] You know, BOOTY FIVE! Assess the defense, let them move around.


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[Assistant] You know, that dumb safety, he might get antsy after that first one, start showing you what he might want to do, right? He's like, I just can't help it. I'm Blitzen and I can't disguise it anymore. That will be my only critique there. But either that, uh, I don't know what his open open was, his whole thing there when he said that. It was good though. It's a decoy, it means nothing. It was a dummy, dummy sack.


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[Assistant] You gotta let it go. You know, I didn't like to let it go when John Gruden would embarrass me, you know, in front of the team or in a meeting. You just gotta let it go.


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[Assistant] So you can let it rip? I don't have many complaints about that right there.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe a hair more of a blue 23, just for a second, pause, and then do it. But it was a pretty good, consistent like sound and rhythm there.


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[Assistant] I think it's a Niner. Wow, a Niner! I think it's a Niner.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Like, awesome. Like, really awesome. Love that you did the video. Uhm, okay, a few things. First off, he added his what, his go to the start there?


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[Assistant] Yeah, which sometimes can be, some teams will do that. Like my dad for instance in his day, they would go, BLUE GO!


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[Assistant] Blue 85, blue 85, because it gave you another thing to go... Wait, the defense has got to get ready.


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[Assistant] Right? Oh, they could go on blue go. Say they could do that. They gotta, gotta get ready. Gotta do that. Really. And what supplanted that is now the Omaha. That's really what happened. That's where it became more of an on the fly and they train people that way. But blue go at the start used to be a real thing, uh, for, for some teams or how they do it. Uhm, he just said go, right?


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[Assistant] You know, I didn't, the number, color number thing was pretty good. The black 80. Yeah, that's, I'm okay with that. It sounded good.


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[Assistant] The pauses with the set hut and all of that. That's where... Gotta go after the last Black 80 set hut. You gotta get into it. Yea, you gotta get into it there. You know, Black, you know, Black 85! Black 85 set hut!


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[Assistant] Right? That's how it goes. That sounded good? It felt good. That's like a professional.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you might be right. There might be something to it, cause even when I do it, it does sound almost southern, alright? It does. So, you know, that's pretty low. Pretty low right there. Cause it's red four. You can't make red four good. Red four. And to our man Chandler, like,


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[Assistant] You know, offensive linemen are antsy like that way. So red four, red four, that long of a pause before we say set hut, offensive linemen are going to jump off sides for sure. You're going to have that one nervous offensive linemen that's like, Oh gosh, Aaron Donald's over me. What's taking so long? Where's the set hut? Where's the set hut? You know, and then they jump off sides and you go, Oh, what the we set on one. What, what, what, what the


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[Assistant] But a 10 for putting himself on camera twice and making two videos and really an 11 for making fun of you.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's what Red 4 was. And that's where Chandler, keep him coming, dude. I do a good job of that myself. I love how you literally did like Red 4 and was like, this doesn't even seem right. His shoulders went down. He was deflated. The whole team.


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[Assistant] You good? Alright, you're good. Alright, we'll see you. Not Wednesday, we're gonna see you Thursday. Alright?


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[Assistant] That was my guess, I was guessing McNabb. I'm not going to lie. So wait, hold on, this is going to drive me... Oh, mother...


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[Assistant] Oh, that's right, that's the first and last time you'll hear that name on this podcast. That was it right there. Oh, the man that has swept across the, the NFL, Tim Tebow. I'm betting, I'm betting, okay, just while we're on it real quick, so I lied, we're gonna say it one more time. I'm betting, it just feels like...


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[Assistant] That Urban Meyer is like reeling it in a little bit. Like he might not sign him when all's said and done. I think the backlash, I think he's probably realized, wait, is this really worth the distractions? The circus coming to town? So my money on right now is that it won't happen.


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[Assistant] There was people within the coaching staff that did not like the move and all that. So again, we'll see where that goes. But yes, that was part of QB Jeopardy. And you know, when Paulie B is here, QB Jeopardy is coming. And today the theme will be top 10 quarterbacks from my top 10 quarterbacks from last year, a combined


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[Assistant] He's got a, he's going out to Long Island to throw with some, some quarterbacks. And my brother was supposed to be there.


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[Assistant] And couldn't do it, so now my dad had to go do it. Right. So I don't know exactly what happened there. So, yeah. Right. It seems fair. Family drama in the business.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's insane, yeaah. First off, I mean, you're right, the arms and everything are legit to go along with it. But that quad is, it's not ridiculous, it's redonkulous, okay? That is


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[Assistant] Ridonculous, how thick it is. I got, I said this morning to Florida, I go-


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[Assistant] It looks like he's got a cooked turkey in there. Like they literally were like, let's take everything out, let's slide in the 20 pound turkey.


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[Assistant] And he's got like the great muscular build. Like, Mike Davis, along with most NFL running backs, okay, this is where they can piss you off when you're on a team with them. They can...


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[Assistant] Look at weights. They can look at them and put on five pounds and get more ripped. And you're like, wait, you didn't do anything. I was sitting here in the room and I looked at them and my biceps got bigger. I mean, that's how freaky they are. And I think he made a few comments like he just started lifting legs and really going after it.


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[Assistant] That is some true, true, unbelievable power and thickness. AJ Dillon? Yea, AJ Dillon. He might be the guy that could rival it a little bit. That's not even the best picture of his quads. It's pretty good though. Yea, they're pretty damn good. We've seen those in person.


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[Assistant] The ham, yeaah, we have the hamstring to ass. Oh!


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[Assistant] We can go back to the Mike Davis thing. I think that picture was so amazing too.


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[Assistant] Like, there's not a ton of definition. You know how sometimes you can see the actual four different muscles in the quad and everything? This is so damn big, it's just like...


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[Assistant] BOOM! Like you don't see the little striations and things like that. Alright, I mean it all serious though. Out of all your sports growing up, whatever. Especially college and high school. Running back. Freaks. Strongest pound for pound guy on your team, at least in the conversation.


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[Assistant] So they had like these two jack guys, uh, but I do remember Greg Jones. You're right. That was a specimen of specimens. Uh, as far as- Who was number one in the Bucks? Oh. He walked in that locker room.


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[Assistant] Right away, Simeon Rice was that guy, because he was just, he was 6'6", he had big broad shoulders, you know, he was muscular, not like jacked, thick muscular, but still jacked and plenty thick, but he was the guy that caught your attention, because you were just like, woah, that's a different looking dude. All-Stars,


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Thick as hell. All-Stots quads and legs. Hey listen, they can mess with that picture. They could have been in that rotation there. His ass might not have been quite the same, but he's white, so he can't have it all, right? But either way, his quads were the real deal from that standpoint. He had legit power.


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[Assistant] Cadillac was impressive there. I had some specimens. I had Michael Pittman. I had Thomas Jones.


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[Assistant] You remember Thomas Jones? I mean, they were, now, they had good legs and stuff like that. Thomas Jones had really good legs, but there, I mean, Michael Pittman and Thomas Jones doing curls and triceps, holy crapola. I mean, that was unreal.


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[Assistant] So between them, uh, yeaah, it was a pretty damn good group I had in Tampa, definitely.


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[Assistant] They're, they're the most unbelievable people on the field. They're expected to be able to run with the receivers and DBs, uhm, break tackles of defensive linemen.


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[Assistant] And then stop blitzing linebackers in their tracks. Right. When they're full speed, and of course they're sitting there to stand still. I mean, that's why it's, they're an unbelievable speed.


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[Assistant] I'm in a good place in my list, right? You already started? Yep, I started dabbling a little last weekend.


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[Assistant] And I kinda just let it sit there, right? And I write little notes and arrows and go like, ooh, I should move this guy here and there and...


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[Assistant] You know, I feel good about my top 10. That's really one of the easier things. Like there's some nitpicking and things like that. Uhm, it's always the toughest spot as I say every year. It's really between like 14 and 20.


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[Assistant] Cause those guys are so close that it is nitpicking there. And then you get towards the end of the list, guys, that can be tough too, just because it's like, all right, these guys aren't the best and man, it's been some tough situations that some of these guys are in and things like that. But yeah, I'm in a pretty good spot. I got some juggling to do definitely like the bottom 15 where I've just


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[Assistant] Tough spot there, definitely, that, like, 6 through 10, right? I mean, Wentz, obviously, hey, listen, I was wrong. Probably a little high on Matt Ryan. I got no issue with Dak Prescott where he is there and everything like that. You know, Matt Stafford, of course, is the guy, I get crap about Matt Stafford every year.


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[Assistant] Cause he's always in my top 7 or 8 or 10. And people always go, well, the Lions don't win and all that. And it's like, okay, so here's the year. Here we go. Here's the vindication year for Simms and Stafford. Cause now it's going to be, oh, he's on a good team. Stafford is good. He's really good, isn't he? It's all, so at least I'm hoping that's what happens. So I have no issue with that. Cam Newton, yeah, obviously I was a little high there. You know, you, could you flip maybe, uh,


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[Assistant] Tannehill nine, something like that.


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[Assistant] I did like, I know you did. You questioned me when I, I think during the ranking, because you're like, these things you're saying don't sound like the 37th ranked quarterback. So, I'm, I'm, that bothers me. And then, the two, the two studs of the year.


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[Assistant] The two risers of the year. I come, I just, I knew Kyler Murray was going to be better than 12. Come on! But you having him at 12 I think was higher than most. I got a lot of pushback. I got a little pop. But like, in my heart of hearts,


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[Assistant] I knew he was a top 7 or 8 quarterback. And I just didn't go with my heart. Josh Allen, same thing.


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[Assistant] I've had guys where yeaah, it's one year or they're gonna be a rookie.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah. Get ready. Trevor Lawrence ain't gonna be anywhere from 30 to 40. Alright? And he, I don't know, he might not be anywhere from 20 to 30. Is Zach Wilson gonna be in the teens? They might be!


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[Assistant] They might, I don't know. You know, I got em, yeaah. I mean, I don't want to give inklings there, but there are names that I certainly like on my sheet of paper have like some notes and stars next to to go like, wait, let's make sure we think this out and all the possibilities. Yeaah, cause I'm a believer in their talents. I am.


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright, throw that up there one more time. Uhm, my, my rankings there. Thank you, Kristen. Uhm, I would say if I had a... You know, the one that like...


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[Assistant] That I'm proud of is, I am proud of Ryan Tannehill at 11. Just stick to my guns there to know like, hey, the year before was not a fluke. The guy is still right there in that conversation. It wasn't a one year wonder when they went to the AFC Championship game or anything like that. So I think that's probably one that jumps out to me towards the top of the list. Uhm, and,


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[Assistant] You know, I'm proud I held strong with breeze and rivers.


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[Assistant] That I didn't like succumb to the totality of their career, the pressure of everything. Right. You know, so, I don't know, I guess those would be two that maybe jump out to me more than others. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and say that top five, like, I feel vindicated by anything there or anything like that.


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[Assistant] I think he will be, yeaah, I do. Uhm, you know, and of course the Cam Newton conversation is interesting as well.


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[Assistant] It is, and Mack Jones is in the mix. You know, listen, I'm sorry, Mack Jones is the top 40 quarterback for me.


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[Assistant] You know, he might not play this year to be able to really justify any of it, so sorry for the long answer. No, that's okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I mean, like I said, the Brady one...


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[Assistant] I don't like that. Brady at 15. Should have been moved up. You know, obviously with Cam, I was, you know, a little high. Uhm, man, and Cam, the one, that's the one where it's like the first two weeks of the year, I was going, man, that was a good thing I put him at 10. He looks like number, a top 10 quarterback. Uhm, the other ones like, you know,


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[Assistant] I'm proud of myself for like where I put Jimmy Garoppolo and things like that. But like Baker Mayfield would have been another one where I think the signs were there.


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[Assistant] Play was, you know, not bad at the end of the season the year before that. You know, with a new coaching staff and the system that I felt like was going to fit them and all those type of things. That'd be one maybe I'd look at there for sure.


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[Assistant] That I look at that I feel too bad about when you take into the context of where we were before the season started last year and all that. Now another interesting guy on there that's really hard to peg


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[Assistant] Where I might have been also if I was in a self-scoutage, Derek Carr. Derek Carr deserves to be more than 19. Yeah, he's another one that he is, I have a lot of notes written next to his name. Cause he's a tough one. It's like, okay, he's not top, he's not top seven or eight.


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[Assistant] But I think if you got like, you know, 10 coaches together, you could have from 8 to 16, he could be in this, that whole range there.


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[Assistant] No, Burrow's a tough one because of the knee and where we're at right now as a player and things like that, not getting to finish out the year and continue that growth, all of that. Like if it went on the trajectory it was going, yeaah, like him and Herbert?


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[Assistant] Again, it's about right now. He's hurt with a serious knee injury. So it is going to affect him a little for how I see him right now to start the 2021 season. I know what he can be.


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[Assistant] And he certainly has the potential to be that, but that is definitely affecting my thought with him.


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[Assistant] There's some giant moves for Herbert Burrow. Right, giant moves for Herbert Burrow, giant moves for Kyler and Josh Allen, but they were totally justified at that moment.


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[Assistant] You know, Rogers was just nipping at the heels of Mahomes at that point. You know, Mahomes is Mahomes, we know that. But Rogers, we could see at Week 10 was having a statistically really awesome year to go along with it.


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[Assistant] Hey, the thing that jumps out to me here, I mean, you have no Matt Ryan, right? You talked about, I remember Derek Carr, me thinking, man, he's right on the edge of this conversation. You had Kirk Cousins, and you had Brady, and then you had Big Ben, who was still playing at a pretty high level at this point too, to where that's, it was tough.


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[Assistant] All the stats, the wins, the losses, all that said he was a top ten quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, again, we're not gonna fall into that trap here. And that's gonna be the part of these rankings here too.


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[Assistant] It's about 2021. Everybody's got the same offensive line and receivers and everything like that. We are going to evaluate the quarterback for the quarterback. That's how I'm doing it. Yeah. You know, so yeah, that's how that's going to be my, my jump off point there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think those are the names I remember struggling with as far as just finishing off that top ten. I remember that too.


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[Assistant] To fall out of the top ten. Now, it might- It's only two dudes then. I know. It might not be a whole different order here altogether. And I'm trying to think. I don't have my list with me either, too, just to look at it. But, uhm.


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[Assistant] No, the real question too is just gonna be about, you know, a little bit like we said of...


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[Assistant] And then Stafford, who's gonna be right there in this conversation too. And so. And Brady. And Brady. Right. So, like.


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[Assistant] Seven through ten is open business right now. And that's where seven through fifteen, like you just talked about, there's fifteen top ten quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And then it's going to be wake up Sunday morning and go, oh, why did I do that on Saturday? Let me switch it back the other way. And then I'll probably text my dad and go, hey, I want to ask you something. Can I call you real quick?


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[Assistant] You know, but the talk helps me clear my mind in the whole conversation too.


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[Assistant] You know, Josh Allen got the benefit, at least last year, statistically wise, of, hey, digs.


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[Assistant] Whoa, this is a new plan of attack and a new way of attack Buffalo's doing. It's, it's, we didn't expect it. Josh Allen and shotgun throwing the ball every play to where that I think caught the league by, by surprise a little bit, especially the first. So that helped him like my homes in his first year starting.


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[Assistant] It helped them get some big time stats because teams just don't have the film or, you know, the, the tendency list yet of going like, oh, wait, when they get in this formation, they do this or this and this. So what I'm saying is I don't know if a whole lot changes for the teams. I would bet you my homes and stats would probably be better.


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[Assistant] than what they were, even though they were phenomenal. Right. Just because of the newness of buffalo in their


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[Assistant] Hey, it's the AFC West, and yeaah, the Chargers have been playing a certain way the last few years, and now it's, wait, it's a new D coordinator, it's a new O coordinator, we're not sure how this guy is exactly attacking us and doing all that. I can see that being that little bit of a mold to a degree.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to just see if there's anybody else out there. I mean of course Stafford, not that he's the young guy to do that, but I expect like, statistical...


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[Assistant] Alright, so I'm a little torn here. I don't, you know. Because...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't need him to go to the Rams for me to be feeling like, oh, that's better than all that. Wentz, I can, I won't lie, I still am a believer in Wentz, but I have questions in my mind. And then...


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[Assistant] You know, just the perception and everything around Wentz is so, you know...


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[Assistant] Negative or totally positive or whatever, it's polarizing.


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[Assistant] To where I think he's probably got the most to gain. I do. And he's in a spot that's got a really complete offense. The head coach.


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[Assistant] That believes in him as a person and as a player is very creative. I mean, he's got all the support and things. There's really no excuse, right? Both have good defenses too. Both have good defenses. I mean, both should be improved, but I think you're going to see the biggest jump from Carson. I do, yes.


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[Assistant] Alright. You know another guy, too, just throw in the conversation of maybe a riser, right? And he's not going to be at the top ten or near the top ten.


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[Assistant] A guy that, I'll just say like, let's watch out for, cause of Daniel Jones. This could be the year.


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[Assistant] It's second year in Jason Garrett's system. They have gotten some, exactly. First round receiver. Kaderius Tony, right? You know, Barclays back, exactly right. So, this could be the year he breaks out of the shell. I don't know that for sure, but I'm just saying, like, if I had to give guys to say, like,


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[Assistant] Watch out for this guy. That could be a big time riser. He'd be on that list too of people, along with Sam Darnold.


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[Assistant] You know, Sam Donald's another guy. I think I had him at 23. 23, yeaah. I think those are guys that can like legitimately with their, their teams and their growth as a player, they could end up, you know, Fortin with the top 15 in that area and all that at the end of the year maybe.


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[Assistant] That's right. It started, you know, finally, you know, it's two years, you had two different OCs and a lot of moving parts.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not shocking. I mean it's, they're gonna throw the ball down the field. That, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] I would have predicted Mahomes first. I, I, I agree. Uhm, I, I mean, hey Brady was, let's see, how far behind was he last year? 107 yards. He was 107 yards behind Mahomes. He threw the ball 22 more times than he did.


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[Assistant] Right, so yeaah, you know, you forget those early parts and those like,


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[Assistant] Week 1 through 10, they had some games where they threw the ball 40-45 times a game. The run game wasn't working yet. They were still finding their way. Right. Bruce Arians made the comment last week that he finally admitted that Brady had a hard time learning the offense.


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[Assistant] Running the ball, and all of a sudden it's one on one, and he started throwing 30 and 40 yard lasers all over the field. But I can understand that. Those weapons, as aggressive as that offensive coordinator and head coach are.


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[Assistant] That when they drop back to pass, they're, they're not looking for five yard completions anymore. It's, it's chunk plays. Right? So, like listen, Brady, certainly in that, there's three guys in football where, that was passing yards, right? I just want to make sure. There's three guys in football that I can look at along with Brady to add to that, to where I just go,


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter the week or whatever. The yards are going to be up there.


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[Assistant] Not, doesn't matter about their matchup or their plan of attack. The plan of attack is them.


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[Assistant] And I always look at Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Dak Prescott to where...


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[Assistant] The way their teams are set up, and the way they play, and they have support around them, that I go, really, their bad weeks are like, he threw for 274. Yea, right? You know? So, I would add one name to that, and I would have number one, Matt Ryan. Oh, I know, I know. Only thing I'm thinking with Matt Ryan, maybe this year, is Arthur Smith.


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[Assistant] You added another weapon with pits. I mean, you know, it's funny, you're like, we had this little quick conversation, just a quick tidbit, like, there's Matt Ryan, right?


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[Assistant] He's got a top 5, a top 10 tight end, a top 10 receiver, a top 20 nether receiver in Calvin Ridley, and Hayden Hurst who's a top 30 pick. Right? And then you got a guy like Aaron Rodgers who's got none of that on his career in 18 years. None of it. None of it's there.


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[Assistant] You know, and not, I just think that's a funny tidbit that one guy's got four first-rounders to throw to.


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[Assistant] They definitely could. They're an interesting team just to talk about and hope. Because there's talent to where you go, like, can they be competitive?


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[Assistant] You know, or you could see it like you're saying, where it's like, hey, we're in a transition, Dean Pease is coming in as the D coordinator, we're kind of flipping around the defensive roster.


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[Assistant] I wanna say Prac- Prescott as far as like,


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[Assistant] Man, Josh Allen and Prescott at 1400, uh, plus 1400. That to me is a little low.


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[Assistant] I don't think those offenses are gonna throw the ball enough for them to be leading in passing yards. So I don't look at it that way. Hold on, let me just make sure there's somebody else I'm not missing here that would make sense.


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[Assistant] I guess that's it. I mean, Derek Carr, you know, but they're gonna stay pretty balanced too. I mean, I really look at that, but if you made me bet on a guy that's not in the top two or three, I think Prescott's the guy I would go to to go. I think that's a good bet.


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[Assistant] It's actually, she doesn't have a lot of them. She has some unbelievably expensive quality ones.


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[Assistant] I mean, probably not, no. Not with my wife. No, sorry. Sorry, yeaah. My wife grew up in New Jersey and her parents had restaurants in New York City and she's all into fashion and it hurts my checkbook.


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[Assistant] That would be big. I probably, really, I need more than that. Okay? Really?


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[Assistant] Again, Rogers is one where I definitely hold him with more value in this department because they're an offense in a team that when they get in the 10, they just go get the ball to him and let him throw it in. Like that's our best way to get it in.


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[Assistant] So they're always been phenomenal at red zone touchdowns and, you know, just putting the ball in his hands in those moments for him to throw touchdown passes. I'm, I'm, I'm still gonna go, I think if you made me pick somebody that I think's gonna lead the NFL in passing touchdowns. I see a free $1,200 up there.


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[Assistant] You mean with uh, Russell Wilson? Yeah, he could be up there for sure. I still think I'd bet Patrick Mahomes if you made me bet and pick one guy. I'm gonna take him for touchdown passes and I don't know, I just feel like this is a year where


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[Assistant] They might slip a little bit. I don't expect 15-1 or 14-2 or 13-3 to where we might have some games where


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[Assistant] He might have to really uncork it. Like, it might not be just like, hey, we're in control and, oh, we're up by 20 and we'll, we'll chill out for a quarter and now come back and play a quarter. And then like, I think there could be some different circumstances there. Definitely. Russell Wilson TD passes.


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[Assistant] Sure, definitely. I guess what I just, I hesitate as the new offense, it's gonna be that McVeigh type thing, I just, I'm interested to see how it unfolds.


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[Assistant] But, that's up there. Of course Josh Allen there. You know, I don't know if there's anybody here.


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[Assistant] Stafford? Stafford's a guy that I think you could certainly look at to, yes. Like I think, I think McVeigh will go out of his way to get his quarterback off.


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[Assistant] And a little bit like, hey, we're on the four yard line and yeah, we've run it down here and we could probably run it in from the four. But I got this cool play I practice on bootlegs all week. Let me give my guy I traded my other quarterback for a free touchdown pass. Like I can see them really trying to make the Stafford thing work and sell it to the fans.


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[Assistant] You know, make sure everybody buys into the propaganda to where, that's what you do. You give the stats to them.


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[Assistant] You know, we're glad you came here and picked us. Thank you. Yes, we don't care about Ronald Jones touchdowns, but your touchdowns will say a lot about our relationship together and all that. I think that that'd be a one I would look at for sure.


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[Assistant] I could see Wens walking away with 38 touchdown passes, 36 touchdown passes in a year like this.


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[Assistant] He's not even listed, is he? Plus 4,000. Have you got some extra chump change or some extra loose change in your couch? 40 to 1. To me, that's a good like...


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[Assistant] I think Kyler Murray is another one that's way too far down here. They're gonna throw the ball. They got AJ Green.


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[Assistant] It's another year in the offense. They've improved their offensive line. I, I, there would be another one where I would just go, mmm, I could see him throwing for 36 touchdown passes this year, something like that. Pete, hit me one more time with what you just said.


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[Assistant] I know. I can't, I can't pick him. He's a first round receiver. I know. I can't pick him. Now, now he was the benefit of like what we talk about on this show sometimes, like.


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[Assistant] He got some, he played awesome, I'm not trying, but it's just like Mahomes in his first year at Kansas City. It's like, whoa, we haven't seen this attack and this is crazy, and it leads to some...


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[Assistant] Good stats and easy touchdowns. Not new anymore. And now it's year two, like we saw last year, where, okay, now people have caught on some stuff, and people aren't wide open when you're throwing the ball from the seven yard line and stuff. So, you know, that's where, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, just people study you when you're damn good and your team's really good.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeaah, I couldn't, I couldn't quite get behind that, I don't think, uh, as far as that's concerned. I do like, a Baker Mayfield, I don't think is like, a crazy one. I mean, Baker last year, what, had 26 touchdowns? You know, in that offense, again, you gotta think of like, what is it capable of? Okay, that's-


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[Assistant] You're right. OBJ should be healthy, right? So you take that, you know, like what's the potential, like you're talking about. It was getting better to where you would think the statistics are going to go up. You see what Kirk Cousins does in Minnesota.


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[Assistant] It's the same offense except they have more talent. Kirk Cousins threw 35 touchdown passes last year. I bet you most people don't realize that. Fifth in football.


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield's one I look at to go, everyone's going to worry about that Browns run game this year. It was one of the best in football last year.


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[Assistant] He got like, you know, all the Sean Payton formations and cheap ways to get, you know, little completions here and there that Joe Lombardi will bring to the table.


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[Assistant] I could certainly see Herbert being in the mix for really anything statistically. You know, a lot of the times like you're talking about, it just, a little bit is how your team is playing dictates your statistics sometimes.


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[Assistant] Rogers didn't throw for a ton of yards last year because they were really efficient.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of the times there was 8 minutes left in the game and they were kind of in control so they didn't have to throw. Probably cost them 600 or 700 yards throwing the ball. But that's the way that works.


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[Assistant] Where if you catch on fire and it becomes a thing, he's gonna get off on, let's keep doing this. Of course, I don't need Drew. Right, right, I'm gonna prove my point, you know. We're more than a one trick pony, you know. So, you're right, not a crazy thought, I wouldn't expect it, but again, if you want to take a long shot, that's not a bad one.


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[Assistant] It is mid-May. It is mid-May. Is Peacock going to be able to survive if we only do an hour-long podcast? Are we going to make it? Kristen says yes.


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[Assistant] Still with his original team. Well that will be...


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[Assistant] He had like what, like one or two interceptions and then he went like what, maybe eight in three weeks or something like that.


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[Assistant] There's a couple of dudes there that jump out. I know. So wait, hold on, cause, alright, so when's...


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[Assistant] He had that, you said no Prescott, so Stafford was hurt, but wait, wait, hold on, so I'm gonna guess it's Cam and Lamar Jackson, no?


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[Assistant] Cause he was benched for four games. Of course, of course.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is where it's weird, cause you know, remember last year where I talked about Watson and going like, it could be a good thing Hopkins leaves, right? Yea. Now, I thought it would end up being better on the win-loss part of the thing too, maybe. Right. But,


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[Assistant] I still think in a lot of ways for Deshaun Watson, you can't really talk to anybody that doesn't say that was the best year of his career.


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[Assistant] There's nobody. So there was like some big time play from him. There's no doubt. Now we have all these circumstances we're talking about right now in his life. But either way, what he did on the field was outstanding. And they had no chance without him. Damn it.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, it's the Falcons. Yes. I mean, the horrible end of the game management. Oh my gosh, right? Yes, holy shit, I forgot about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, what a horrible display by me.


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[Assistant] I mean, see, this is what happens when you get cocky. You get cocky, you think you know the names right.


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[Assistant] You know, they're doing this new thing this year where 7 plays 8 and 9 plays 10 to get into the playoffs. So that started last night.


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[Assistant] Yes. Classic. You didn't show, have you shown your kids Django Unchained yet? Django Unchained yet? No. No, you didn't do that? You didn't take my advice and go, you know that sounds like a good father. Let me show my kid Django Unchained. I'm not there yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, really, yanks are yanks right now. The Yankees. Yeah, because I'm a baseball watcher. I put the Yankees on every night. And not that I watch all the whole game.


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[Assistant] But last night, I mean, I turned it on, I watched the first of two innings, two innings or so, we eat dinner, okay, I might miss a few innings, I come back, I watch, you know, the final stretch.


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[Assistant] The guy that took over for Jeter, uh, who's on the Phillies now, I'm blanking out his name because I have too many football names in my head. The shortstop. The shortstop. He's great. I know, uhm, but it'll come to me in a minute. It's right there. But he was my guy forever.


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[Assistant] Uh, so right now, I don't know, I guess if I had to pick one player that's my favorite, it's hard for me not to pick Joe, uh, Aaron Judge.


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[Assistant] Oh, him and, uh, Giancarlo Stanton? I mean, we got, we got two NFL defensive players batting two and three in our lineup.


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[Assistant] Oh, Judge is a defensive end for sure. Stanton is like a stand up linebacker off the edge. 3-4 linebacker, yea definitely got great ass and legs. Perfect.


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[Assistant] It's more me like taking him now. That's what it's really, that's how it works. It's like, Dad, come on, let's go to the Yankee game. Yeaah. Yeaah. I'm gonna do that soon. The NBC tickets are, are awesome. Awesome. Yeaah. I know. I did that too. And I had a lot of fun. Yeaah. And caused some problems.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I made sure all the fans in the area, this is before the cheating thing even started.


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[Assistant] Remember that? Yea, I do. Yea. Right. They should be relegated to not playing baseball right now, in my opinion. So that's it. That was a little baseball flavor for you at the end of the NFL football podcast. You're the man. See you Monday. Good luck with your studies. See you Monday. Top 40 quarterback countdown coming. Get ready.


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[Assistant] This is a good time of the year. I was in the booth at Notre Dame for the blue gold game, their version of the spring game. And I was watching all the guys walk off the field afterwards. I remember that feeling so well, like it's one of the best of the year when spring ball's over. Gonna go take your pads off.


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[Assistant] It's kind of funny when you're 40, but like, now that I just turned 50, I can't do that kind of thing anymore. Because then, because then you're the old guy. I know. Yeaah. So, you've got 10 years to do that which is cute.


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[Assistant] My early MVP of this show goes to Pete D for coming up with this format, because like, Wednesday after the draft, you know you still want to talk draft, but you have to kind of come up with a creative way to do it. You explained it, who is this year's, uh, compared to last year's models, so Pete?


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[Assistant] In the clubhouse, a leader in the clubhouse. He's not in the leader house. Oh, look at you finally catching on over there. He's a leader in the clubhouse. If he wants to be in the leader house, he can be. Yeah, well, you got it.


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[Assistant] No reason not to start with quarterback and Justin Herbert. So who is going to be this year's Justin Herbert, the rookie quarterback who kind of starts on the bench and for whatever reason comes in, boom, there's your franchise quarterback.


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[Assistant] And think about the leadership of that team. How many times we've talked about Ryan Pace, GM, Matt Nagy, the head coach, being on the hot seat. If you go seven and nine with Andy Dalton, you're done. If you go seven and nine with Justin Fields in a strong December, you're likely back. You're right. Like, look at the good things we've done. Yeah, we've got a good quarterback. He's developing. He's going upwards all year.


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[Assistant] For the sake of the exercise. More apples to apples. More quarterback. Right. Who's going to be this year's Joe Burrow? The rookie QB who shines in a tough spot.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm buying it. Three running back questions coming up right now. Let's start with who is this year's Jonathan Taylor going to be? And that's a rookie running back who starts the season kind of backfield by committee but ends it as the man.


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[Assistant] Both make sense. Last year, one running back in the first round, Clyde Edwards, a layer to the chiefs. So who's going to be that guy this year? And the explanation is a heralded rookie running back who, who underwhelms. I know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and to me, if you're going heralded, they're only two heralded running backs. It's two first-rounders. So it's whether you think it's Najee Harris with the Steelers or Travis ETM with the Jacks.


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[Assistant] By the way, Ken is zooming out and looking at the running backs as a whole. Two went in the first round. Only four in the first three rounds. 16 of the 20 picked. Rounds four or after. So you look at round one and say, hey, a couple went. Maybe they value them. But 80% of the guys who heard their name called, it was middle to late rounds.


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[Assistant] Alright, final running back question here, Chris.


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[Assistant] Little honor to James Robinson, undrafted rookie running back. Made a big impact last year out of Illinois State. Went over a thousand yards, uh, first season in the NFL. So who is going to be this year's James Robinson? You're gonna have to dig deep here. Undrafted running back. Yep. Who has an impact?


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[Assistant] Good situation. That's exactly right. Transition to wide receiver who's going to be this year's Justin Jefferson rookie wide out who has the best season of all of them.


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[Assistant] But then I went to this term that you've come back to when thinking about Justin Fields maybe being the guy situation and Hawkins at running back. Great situation at Atlanta. Exactly right. Look at what he's walking into there. I know. T Higgins, Tyler Boyd mixing out of the backfield. I mean there's a lot around him where he can just fit in and not be the number one guy. No doubt.


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[Assistant] Let's shift our focus to up front the offensive line. Who is this year's Mackay Beckton? That's the old Lyman as a rookie who just looks like a force of nature.


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[Assistant] When you get in the water, are you actually, are you just waiting? Or do you get out there and actually, are you active in the water?


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[Assistant] How about the question? How about the big question for Phil? Can I give it to him? Alright, Phil, before we talk about the draft specifically, wondering if you know


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[Assistant] The answer to this trivia question. Trey Lance drafted out of North Dakota State. Sixth quarterback drafted in round one since division one double A was formed. Who was the first non-FPS quarterback to be selected in the first round?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, there you go. It would have been fun if you didn't know.


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[Assistant] Let's keep it with quarterbacks, Phil, and kind of the headline in round one. I wonder what you think about the fact that the Niners win Trey Lance instead of Mac Jones.


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[Assistant] Not now. More, more finessing touch and yeaah.


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[Assistant] Not those kind of throws is the time you and I were throwing Phil you like sometimes you just gotta show him who's boss and everybody needs to see that. He didn't really, he didn't really emphasize that.


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[Assistant] There were a couple of, uh, there were some outrouts attempted from one hash to the other sideline that the ball wasn't going what we're supposed to. I'd just like to remind people.


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[Assistant] Think about what Mac Jones came from in Alabama. I know he had wonderful athletes around him, but Steve Sarkeesian was terrific at scheming, especially this last year, so he goes from that.


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[Assistant] An offensive coordinator put him in that position to dissect and he'll probably walk into the same kind of situation now with Josh McDaniels. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Phil, as long as we're talking. We've got one more here. Paul got it. I've got one more. I'd love to hear what you think and what you thought when the Bears traded up to 11 to get Justin Fields. How you think that marriage is going to last or that relationship with Andy?


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[Assistant] They didn't make this move to run the same kind of offense where they had Mitch Trubisky 17,000 ways to complete a pass for three yards. Yeaah, right, right. I mean, they're gonna do something differently than what we've seen. I would hope so. I would think so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, let's see, what was I doing then? I don't remember. It was something that required a coat and tie.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Is that what it was? That was it. That was it. And uh, I always send Phil a note when I like his jacket and tie. So he reciprocates. We got this little thing back and forth. So thank you. That's really cute of you guys. Really good.


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[Assistant] He's got the same mentality as my wife, my, uh, attorney wife, who like, every, gotta be worried about everything. Right. Don't do that. Right. Don't do that. I'm like, that's no fun.


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[Assistant] But I mean, I suppose that you don't end up stepping in it if you, if you're that way. Eh, I guess safe and sorry. So now, I mean...


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[Assistant] I'm at this fork of the road of the show. Phil brings up a lot of points with the quarterback, but I'm going to go left here and get back to the, get back to what we're doing with the offensive line.


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[Assistant] Just to remind, what we're doing here is we're talking about the 2021 rookie class, comparing them to last year's class. Like, who will be this year's version of this person? So, we're in the midst of the offensive line. Who will be this year's Tristan Werfs? So, rookie Oliman, who is a key part of a contending team.


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[Assistant] We actually did. Yea, a lot of times. Alright, defense now. Uh, let's go with the points bet graphic here. The player of the year odds to be defensive rookie of the year. And what do we have here? We have Micah Parsons, linebacker Dallas. That'd be the most likely, easily the most likely according to this.


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[Assistant] We need something here in front of the bobbleheads. It's like a house that is the leader house. You can put people in, put teams in. Ooh, I like that idea. Yea, the leader house. I like that. Love that spot.


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[Assistant] His carpenter. Because his kids aren't old enough to make one yet. My kids are too old to do it.


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[Assistant] Probably the same as you. Yeaah, no. The lego thing won't work. No. Okay, so who's gonna be this year's Jayce Young? That's a rookie defensive stud who kinda turns around a whole unit. We got like...


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[Assistant] Who is going to be the Patrick Queen slash Kenneth Murray, the rookie linebacker who is an every down tackle machine?


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[Assistant] So I'm sure they're worried about both of those guys. And we have one here named after Antoine Winfield Jr. out of Minnesota, your top safety last year, second round pick, big part of the defensive backfield for the Super Bowl champs in Tampa. Who is going to be this? There are some candidates here. There is. Who's going to be the one this year who's the son of a former NFL player who makes his dad proud?


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[Assistant] One more here on the defense, and this one goes to Jeremy Chin, who's gonna be the rookie defensive back drafted after round one, who has an impact the way he did after going to Rantoo last year to Carolina.


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[Assistant] How about the TCU kids to the Raiders? Yeah, that was always good.


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[Assistant] Alright, Pete Z, nice job with the idea. With the 21 rookie class predictions. You, Chris Sims, across from me, nice job. Thank you. Connecting it all together. Clearly that idea resonated with you too.


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[Assistant] As promised, we're gonna get through some Ask Me Anythings. I love taking the questions. I get so many good ones on Twitter. There's no way we ever get to all of them. But let's try and hit a number of them here. Let's begin with Chicago. This is from


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[Assistant] Bert, Burton 6. He says, do you think Chicago's vision is to run the turbo version of the offense they tried with Trabisky last year, but with Justin Fields? Jet sweeps, boots, play action all day long.


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[Assistant] For the Falcons, thinking about the wide receivers and tight ends now in that, uh, inside that building. This is from at DJL Curly. Do you think the three-headed monster in Atlanta, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and now Cal Pitts is the best top three in the league? Ooh, man, that's a good one.


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[Assistant] When Gronk was healthy and what they're doing in Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Good question, DJ L. It's kind of a keep with that theme there to the Ravens at Ravens NFL 2. How can the additions of Rashad Bateman, I'm sorry, Rashad Bateman, Tyler Wallace, and Sammy Watkins change the Ravens offense? I like this one because it comes up a lot during the season when


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[Assistant] The Ravens passing offense hits a skid. Is it Lamar? Is he not thrown outside the numbers? Are his pass catchers not good enough? So, I think it has a lot of relevance to the season.


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[Assistant] A lot of questions, a lot of thoughts about Zach Wilson. No surprise going second to the Jets. Let's go with one here from at diet donut, which is interesting. Two words to put together. Yes, diet and donut don't go together. No, they don't. Do you see the Jets allowing Wilson to be as much of a risk taker?


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[Assistant] With throwing the ball into tight spots as he was in college. Or do you expect them to almost baby him in his rookie year schematically speaking?


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[Assistant] Okay, we've already talked about Najee Harris a little bit. One more Steelers question. At the Nick Report, huge fan of the pod, which of the Steelers picks do you like the most?


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[Assistant] Okay, from Georgia Tech, that's different. I mean, that's, that's a steal in the seventh round, uh, based off of what I saw.


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[Assistant] Yeah, all these guys who, who, who punt the hell out of the ball. There's one that just looks a little bit different and he was that guy. I want to get to this bangles question. There we go from Jason.


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[Assistant] Right, and if you look at it this way, with that pick, what should we do there? The receiver, the offensive lineman. You could probably get an offensive lineman who can play pretty well in round two, like hopefully they did in Carmen. You can't get a receiver that makes your playmakers look like that in round two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we got it. Let's do it. Alright, uh, at Redbrood. I know your dad talked about Ian Book. We kind of opened that one a little bit, but this just says, talk to me about Ian Book. Hashtag Who Dad.


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[Assistant] He's not strictly a pocket. He's not going to get out of run over linebackers. No, but he's, he can get out of the pocket. He was running on average double digit times a game running for first downs and he could do this thing where he just kind of slides sideways and throws that are backwards and throws it. So he was, he was really comfortable not only running,


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[Assistant] But just kind of throwing from awkward moving positions around the pocket. No doubt. Backpedal, throw to the tight end five.


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[Assistant] All time winningest quarterback in Notre Dame. Not a bad title to bring into the league. I think that's it. You think that's it? I think that's a show.


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[Assistant] Yes. Hello. I'm in my office that I just moved into. So it's a train wreck, but I, I know one thing. I'm not going to have a bunch of figurines on my desk. Oh damn. Okay. Look at him. Shots fired.


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[Assistant] Zero sports things on this behind me. I hate those things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that just went up there because you know, we're cleaning one room out, trying to get rid of everything and, uh, you know what room I'm in, right?


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[Assistant] Well, I think that I've always thought the jets were, if they had the chance, they were going to move on and not really blame it at all on Sam Darnold, just, just for the fan base, everybody, the building to refresh and let's start over. And if you're going to start over, this was the year to do it because you can get a quarterback that you can start over with.


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[Assistant] Sam Darno going down there. Hey, look, that'll light a fire under him. Uh, they'll, hopefully they'll build an offensive, fits him. I think they will. And, uh, it's a good move for everybody. It really is. So, and everybody goes, well, as Sam Duck, they're going to draft Zach Wilson. Yes.


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[Assistant] I will say this, I think Zach Wilson's a better talent and has a bigger upside, uh, as far as being a big time NFL quarterback than Sam Darnold.


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[Assistant] Play more spontaneous foot or whatever. I just think that way. He's not super, you know, when you're super, yeah, he never turns the ba never score either. So th thing. And I, the other thi talking about this situat on tv and you know, chri


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[Assistant] I listened to, I got somebody on right now. They were showing something about a quarterback and I go, that is really stupid, but that's the, means nothing. Just, oh, it's great TV. Okay. But Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] But they're looking at everybody, especially quarterbacks and, um, so many things that are sad about all this. The last thing I'll say before we let you ask a question. Yeah. Christopher, I told you this last night for just a second.


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[Assistant] I've never done this. I've watched every throw of most of these quarterbacks, which I never do. Not some of their throws, every throw.


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[Assistant] I couldn't tell you any stats on any of them. I don't care. I'm judging what I see. And you know, cause I, another guy came on TV yesterday, quarterback expert. Well, I look at their QBR and this other stat. Well, that's stupid. What if he plays on a bad team with no receivers and the scheme stinks? And we're going to judge him on that.


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[Assistant] Uh, let me ask you five questions about Trey Lance. I bet you can't answer any of them. So, uh, all right, I'll feel better. Let's go.


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[Assistant] You know, I kind of still believe in that too myself, you know, the big powerful teams can stand the test of time and match up against everybody. Uh, I would think that's what he's doing. I would be surprised if they take a quarterback unless it's somebody they fall where they were really maybe thinking about big time.


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[Assistant] Like I said, I thought last year,


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[Assistant] The way they played, the way he managed games was big time already. You know, they just didn't get caught in bad situations. The football team had a good look to it.


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[Assistant] And having Jimmy Garoppolo around just clouds that message to everybody.


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[Assistant] And then it just opens you up for more second guessing.


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[Assistant] Who's going to be the backup? So you gotta go out there and find a capable backup. Why? It's gotta be somebody pretty good.


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[Assistant] And no, I don't think he will be a good backup. Every broadcast. My God, come on. TV. We know what TV is. Well, here's the starting quarterback. There's Jimmy Garoppolo on the sideline. Boy, really played well. Took him to the Super Bowl. Should they put him in now? He threw an incompletion. You know, so come on. It's just...


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[Assistant] You do things like that. I will say this, if they, they could fall that way, if they do, then they're, I won't feel sorry for anybody if they lose games and get a big controversy going on. Yeah, that's right. They're playing with fire.


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[Assistant] Whatever some weaknesses, this and that, uh, I'm going to get a few things off my chest. Like, uh, you know, years ago I used to do this and talk about the draft.


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[Assistant] You can be extremely accurate with the football. Of course, decision making, talent scheme is a big deal. So perfect example, Josh Allen. So what do I hear the other day from a numbers person?


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[Assistant] What he did last year is an outlier. He's not accurate. That was just an outlier. Oh, I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] Once a hater, always a hater. So, you know, that'd be the other thing. My last little one is, well, Mac Jones only started one year.


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[Assistant] NFL defensive backs, linebackers and defensive linemen running the scout team and maybe getting some other team reps that that's for sure. And.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I don't know what I was going to say about that. So that gives him great experience. Yeaah. I didn't, Christopher, I told you this.


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[Assistant] And I said, man, who's this big guy throwing the ball?


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[Assistant] And it was Mac Jones. He was the MVP of the game with the other two quarterbacks there. He threw the ball great. He threw it just like he did.


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[Assistant] Now, do I have negatives on him? Yes. And I'll talk about those probably in the show. But the other thing is down the field and really short is accurate as anybody you're going to see.


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[Assistant] Which is really me, that's the NFL. Most of the throws are under 10 yards and you've got to be a machine throwing those footballs and he is. And he's a machine plus 20 yards.


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[Assistant] I don't look at numbers. I said I don't look at numbers. Sorry. I'm kind of called for time, but I don't look at numbers. But then I found out he was him.


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[Assistant] And let's see who was the other one. Trevor Lawrence through the most screens, um, by all college players or all the guys being drafted this year. Right. And Trevor Lawrence, you know, he, he missed a couple of games. So they both were great screen teams, but


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[Assistant] And then I'm just saying all these good things about Mac Jones. But trust me, there's a good segment of it. I'm gonna go, hey.


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[Assistant] You hear that? He closed the ball physically as well as anybody in this draft, maybe except Zach Wilson because of Zach Wilson's creativity. Right. But man, can he spin it? He can drive it. And Ahmed, when you look at Texas A&M,


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[Assistant] God, why didn't you do this? But I kinda get the feeling just reading that Jimbo Fisher's not big into that.


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[Assistant] Stand in there, do the reads, run the offense this way. And he was, I'm not going to say he was great at finding one, two, and three. He was just good. He could have been a little quicker sometimes in his final assessment of plays, but the throwing then, you know, I finally got to watch his pro day workout and I like pro day workouts on it. I hate to say it, you know,


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[Assistant] Everybody has these things, uh, I like them because that's the time you go out and really show your raw talent. And man, I would go out there, which I had many of them, and I went out there and I let it go.


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[Assistant] He follows the quarterback thing. He's got a great feel for it.


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[Assistant] But it's been really fun and then writing notes. This is my last thing cause Nicole's over here, Christopher, she's really, she's about ready to slap me.


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[Assistant] Is writing lists of the goods and bads and everything like that. And then sending, I just send the notes out to everybody that's involved in the show and they laugh, they go, oh man, this is great. I didn't know this. And I said, well, yeah, of course you didn't. How would you know it?


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[Assistant] And teach this and do all that. So that's, that's been, that, that part has been really fun. So hopefully we can back it up the right way on the, on TV.


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[Assistant] Draft rankings. This is your, from Fields to Lance to Mon, your 6th, 5th and 4th best record. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] Two years Miami, 33 touchdowns, 21 picks. That's not bad.


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[Assistant] Alright, 25, Jamus Winston. 24, his teammate, Taysom Hill. 23, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bringing us to 22. Uuuuh, 22. Guy, I got a lot of crap for everybody.


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[Assistant] Cause the stats are down, whether it's past, I mean, every way you would measure, his unbelievable MVP season went to a really, really, really good season.


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[Assistant] Yes. And let's, thinking about that too, Chris. Put 2019 aside. Unbelievable season. 2020, if he has 10 more of those seasons, if he has 8 more of those seasons where he's mid-60% throwing the ball, better than 3-1 touchdown interception, runs for over a thousand yards, that's First Ballot Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] Uh, I doubt, no doubt about it. If only there was just some news and some drama around your fifth-rated quarterback. Oh, it's been a quiet offseason. Seeing what we can manufacture here for number five.


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[Assistant] Out of the normal possibilities, but I'm also wearing a blazer. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Men in Blazers. Yeaah. Men in Blazers. So yeaah, I had to do a, uh, I had to do some NBC things while I was here. Take a couple updates. Updates? You know, weekend updates have popped on TV. Hey, I'm Ahmed Fareed here for two minutes.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then when you do stuff like that here at NBC, they go, you gotta wear a jacket.


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[Assistant] I mean, I normally am okay in a blazer, but on this podcast seems so strange.


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[Assistant] That's a good call. You can't tell. You cannot tell. I have no idea. If I'm pitting out. No, nope, nope, no idea. Alright, so maybe we will keep it on because we got a good one today. Yeaah baby. We teased this last time, which last time, a lot of good positive reactions to our, uh, our comeback episode. Good. Chris, I hope you had some texts from friends that were like glad to have you back.


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[Assistant] He goes, uh, great show guys, literally the top of my pod list. So good to be back with Richie. What up Richie, thanks man. He goes, however, we need to talk about the whole wow-a-meter versus wow-a-meter thing. He goes, you're both wrong.


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[Assistant] Uh, okay, so we, we look back on, uh, the Wowometer. We look forward now to, uh,


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[Assistant] Underreaction, so I'm really excited about this episode, Chris, and we've been...


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[Assistant] Uh, compiling different ideas of stories that maybe aren't getting the pub that they should get. Yeaah. Because often times in the off season,


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[Assistant] The story is, oh, you guys are overreacting. It's like, oh, yeah, look at you idiot out there overreacting to all these stories out there, which we do sometimes. So desperate for stories and football, but every off season, maybe.


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[Assistant] There are some stories that are flying under the radar that need to be talked about a little bit more.


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[Assistant] So hopefully, uh, we hit on some of them. So most of these, I think you're gonna agree, are under-talked about.


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[Assistant] There could be a few that you think are, that's okay, you don't need to talk about that because it really is not that big a deal. So we'll see as we go here. But we're starting with some of the big news out there. And you could argue that maybe this is already being talked about as a big deal and overreacted to.


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[Assistant] The Dallas Cowboys and the Dak Prescott injury, the shoulder injury. I feel like a lot of the talk, especially coming from the Dallas Cowboys is like,


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[Assistant] Don't worry about it. This is pre-season. Yeaah. This is, you know, we're seeing Matt Stafford not play at all. Aaron Rodgers won't play at all. Yeaah, he's a little dinged up, but it's not that big a deal. Dak Prescott, week one, will be out there. Do you agree that that reaction's appropriate, or are we under-reacting to the significance of this Dak Prescott?


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[Assistant] Cause it's more troubling cause you wonder how, how'd you get that? How, what, what happened and what changed to give you that injury? Uh, if there was some Hail Marys in practice, that was another thing. And it makes total sense. Yep. So we stress it that way. It makes total sense that if he's not recruiting the lower leg muscles as much and he has to overcompensate.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's stay with the Cowboys real quick before we move on to other teams because there are a couple other stories. We're underreacting to the fact that Ezekiel Elliott is going to be able to carry that offense because he is in now.


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[Assistant] The best shape of his life. Turn 26 in July. He's lost some weight.


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[Assistant] Are we underreacting to the story that, hey, it's okay Dallas, you got Zeke in the best shape of his life. I feel like we're overreacting.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're making it, that's not necessarily the case. We're putting too much emphasis on the fact that he's lost weight in the negative direction.


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[Assistant] So this is what's going to happen with the underreaction, overreaction. We're going to confuse ourselves in the asking of the questions. Uh, but let's just get the truth out there. So what do you think? Is it a good thing?


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[Assistant] How much could one player, a rookie, in that position, improve a defense? It could take them from where to where.


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[Assistant] And there are a couple other defensive rookies who have looked good so far. So are we underreacting to Howgood, Zaven Collins, and Jeremiah Owusu-Koromo. Owusu-Koromo. Owusu-Koromo.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we saw this a little bit, uhm, last year.


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[Assistant] Defensive players didn't have a huge year. Rookie defensive players, I mean. And Isaiah Simmons was one of them. They didn't pop. And there, I don't know that there was really one that was able to go through the whole year and be like, yeah, that guy was a stud all year long. You know, ebbs and flows. Right. Is it just harder for defensive players or could some of these guys be that?


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[Assistant] Alright, so you said that this could be the year of the defense. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] There is one story out there that could challenge that, that maybe we're underreacting to. The impact...


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[Assistant] Of a new rule in the NFL, that new low block rule in the NFL. This is the way it states, no more open field blocks below the waist by the offense or defense outside the tight end box. So that's two yards outside of the traditional tackle positions, five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] I think Kristen, we have a photo of it, 3208 if you want to punch it up there. Oh, we don't, Pete says we don't have it though. Okay. So I just threw to a picture we don't have. 3208. Edit that out as well as the setup to the Zeke running back question.


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[Assistant] We do have the pictures. Oh, we got a picture. Oh, nice. Okay, so there's big ol' 62 going out there and what, uh, will happen is, that's what, 20 for the Chiefs. Right, right. Will go low to take him out. You know, it's gotta, how am I gonna get this guy down to try to help out my teammates, make a tackle. Goes low. So he goes low on 62.


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[Assistant] So, 20 will get called for a low block, which was totally confusing to me because I was like, how do defensive guys block? But no one can go below the knees anymore to take down, take on a blocker.


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[Assistant] To block? So, I mean, the 49ers guy could not have gone low on number 20 there, correct? No. So...


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[Assistant] What kind of impact is this going to have? Is this going to hurt the defense? I mean, how do you, if you're a tiny little defense


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[Assistant] I mean, they say that you over-pursue and that creates running lanes and you tell your defensive end to sit there, to squat, you know, don't over-pursue because then you open up those holes and so it's gonna be, it could open up some more things for the offense.


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[Assistant] Well that's good though, but maybe it's gonna be a bigger deal and we'll track it as the regular season weeks roll on here. Uh, okay.


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[Assistant] Let's get back to the quarterbacks and there's always reactions to quarterbacks, but maybe, maybe we're underreacting. I don't know if you're going to agree with this one. We're underreacting to what we saw from Taysom Hill, especially an interception. And perhaps that is given.


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[Assistant] The edge to Jameis Winston. Are we underreacting to some of the negative plays that we saw from Taysom Hill?


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[Assistant] Do we have the numbers for Taysom Hill versus Jameis Winston preseason week number one there? Uhm, because Taysom Hill ended 8 for 12, 81 yards, the one interception that we showed you, the one sack, no rushing attempts, which you know that they're going to use him as a, as a running quarterback if that's.


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[Assistant] Uh, how they end up, uh, starting their team with, uh, Taysom Hill as the starter. So here's the comparison. 96 passing yards for Jameis Winston. Uh, he had an interception. Why was his interception more concerning to you?


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[Assistant] So Taysom Hill versus Jameis Winston, we'll find out as the preseason rolls on. The Colts have an injury issue. They thought they figured out their quarterback situation with Carson Wentz, but a little bit injury keeping him out. Uh, there's some love though.


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[Assistant] For Jacob Eason. Yeah. And Sam Ellinger. Jesse Ken 22 has been tweeting us a lot. Yes. About, about Eason. Yeah. So. He had some impressive throws. I'll throw this out there and see if you agree. We're underreacting to how okay the cults can be.


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[Assistant] Without Carson Wentz for a few weeks, maybe they're gonna be, okay, are we underreacting to that? Or no, is it the opposite?


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[Assistant] You tell us what you think and then I'll frame the question around that. What do you think? Are they screwed without Carson the first few weeks?


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[Assistant] Okay, hold on, stop. Are we underreacting to the significance of no Carson Wentz the first few weeks?


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[Assistant] Here's, yeaah, here's the hope for the Colts is that early in the season, some of those teams don't have everything in order. More weird stuff can happen week 1, 2, 3 than when teams get rolling week 7, 8, 9. So if you can get through that stretch and say, when is Carson supposed to come back? Do we know?


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[Assistant] Uh, okay, let's go over to the Steelers right now. Yeah. Who they still are taking themselves seriously because they say they're in the window to win a playoff. That's why they want Big Ben to come back. They go, wait, let's see how long this window can stay open. Right. Right.


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[Assistant] Eventually, you have to move on. Every team does. Ben's not gonna play forever. Although, you know, Tom Brady may. I don't think Ben will. Uh, so you need, you know, phase two.


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[Assistant] As you know, he's never won coach of the year. I think that's a travesty. He was a front runner to win it last year and then they had the...


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[Assistant] Alright, so maybe, so maybe, right before our eyes, you know, the Steelers are getting their quarterback of the future. It's developing here and we're not noticing. The same could be happening in Denver with the Broncos, the guy who we thought was going to be the quarterback of the future. And I think a lot of people now have written him off.


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[Assistant] You go, he's still gotta learn that he can't just heave it up and get an 80 yard touchdown, but that play's not gonna help him learn. That play is not, he's not gonna look at that and be like, I shouldn't do that.


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[Assistant] Alright, how about we'll stay with the Denver Broncos. Are we underreacting to how good Javante Williams could be for that team? I think so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well let's talk about him because you had him four in your rankings, a lot of people had him what? One. One for the most part. You still would not put him one, but you've got to see him here and, you know, I would kind of frame this one. Are we underreacting to how vital he's going to be to that Steelers offense in their approach?


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[Assistant] Isn't it funny how these teams that are in the window, we say this is their time, yet even the Steelers have a player, a rookie, who they're banking a lot of their offensive success on that guy. And so we'll see if they can do it. Uh, we got a couple here for the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Uh, one offensively, one defensively. Let's start offensively. There's an underreaction to Patrick Mahomes going on out there. What is it? What are we not reacting to? What's happening?


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[Assistant] Well, it's funny, you'd think there would be more, but your sneaker is not necessarily something that is correlated with football or the NFL. Nope. Nope. He is trans- transcendent. He is. In the sneaker game. Under reaction. Okay, so what about on the defensive side here?


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[Assistant] There's a move, uh, Chris Jones, moving to defensive end. Right. And you think,


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[Assistant] It'll always be one of those things. You might want to do it. You might not have the personnel to do it. You might not have the players who have the ability to do it. But uhm, something to keep an eye on. Definitely. A defensive trend here.


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[Assistant] Oh, here, by the way. See? Are the new shoes, the new sneakers, if you're watching on YouTube, from Patrick Mahomes. Uh huh. Neon green. I know. I kinda like that. But why would you do that? You're a chief. You're red. Why would you throw neon green on your sneakers?


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[Assistant] You have a logo. Pete goes everyone has a logo and I was like that's true and I was like hey, the guy to my left has a logo.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it could be deflated though. You don't know, you know, depending on, you know, how you like it. Uh, okay. All right. Um, a couple more here. Yeah, I'll try to be quicker. And we've all, no, this has been good. We've only confused ourselves like two times this whole time. That's good. We'll see if we can do it one more time. Uh, Matthew Stafford.


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[Assistant] Sean McVay has said no, he will not play. As long as I'm here, my veteran quarterback will never play in the preseason.


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[Assistant] But here Matthew Stafford is going to a new team, right? Are we underreacting to the negative effects not playing in the preseason may have on Matthew Stafford?


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[Assistant] You know what? Talking there made me think about something. And we've talked about this for years now about the value of preseason games and owners don't want to give them up because you can sell them for the same amount. It's part of the season ticket package.


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[Assistant] But I wonder what if you rethought it entirely in some of these joint practices where you can control it? I mean, you'd still get to see Matt Stafford out there against another team, even if he's not getting hit.


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[Assistant] I almost feel like, yeah, what if that just becomes the thing that we fill up stadiums for and, you know, like a spring practice for Notre Dame, I mean, they control that.


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[Assistant] Interesting, maybe a chance to re-think it. But I think your idea is kind of, uh, there might be something there. Why wouldn't you want to go see? If you told me I can either see Matt Stafford go against the defense, he's not going to get hit, it's not a real game, but I want to see him throw it. I hear you, I'm with you there too. Alright, last one.


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[Assistant] Uh, the final story out there comes from Las Vegas that maybe we're underreacting to.


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[Assistant] With Marcus Mariota injured, Nathan Peterman played the entire game Saturday. Is that a story that we should be talking about more?


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[Assistant] But back up, unless there's a pressing need, right? Cause teams don't want to pay up for it. Like how much, like you may need, you may see a need for a Marcus Mariota, but you don't want to give up too much. You know, like I don't want to give up anything on this team. I just want to, I want to have them, but I don't want to pay for them. Kind of, that seems like what most teams, the situation they're in until their starter gets hurt and then they're screwed.


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[Assistant] People say, you know, okay, well, if it's only going to be two or three weeks without your starter, what's the big deal? But I feel like that's the only time that that's the time you want that guy like a Teddy Bridgewater for five weeks when Drew Brees was out. Because if you're starting quarterbacks out, if Lamar Jackson is out for the year,


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[Assistant] They're screwed anyway. It doesn't matter if they have the best backup in the world. You know what I mean? Yea, I gotcha. But it's like, it's almost more important if your guy is just missing a few weeks here and there.


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[Assistant] Whether you can stay competitive, maybe win a game and get that first round by, or lock up a playoff spot, so I-


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[Assistant] Is your family aware of this? Oh yeaah, they're very aware. Your wife's like, uh, wait a second, are you singing a song about them?


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[Assistant] It's awesome to be here. Great to be sitting right here. Got the NFL ball. Got you on the other side of it. And about 20 minutes ago, I was telling you.


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[Assistant] It was nice to pull into the building in daylight hours. Right. With football coming up as the conversation topic. I bet, yeaah. It has been a little bit, but excited that it's the real first day of the season here for me.


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[Assistant] And we're seeing an influx too, and everybody reads about it. Unfortunately, we don't get to see a lot of it in terms of video.


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[Assistant] That are really kind of even more meaningful than the preseason games for a lot of teams. So, uh, to your point of a lot of these coaches feel like, hey, to get better at football, you got to play some football. A lot of that is happening in the lead up to the preseason games we actually see on TV behind the scenes with these practices.


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[Assistant] And before we talk specifics with those five quarterback situations that you mentioned, I just want to say, and again, I was thinking about this on the drive-in today, as I kind of turned the page to the NFL season, we spent so much time right here, February, March, April, May, previewing the quarterback class, wondering how they might look, you picked the guys you liked the most, you had some guys you wondered about,


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, we're both just fans, and we enjoy seeing people play well.


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[Assistant] You can't pick a guy who's off to a bad start. Some might be off to better starts than others, but there's been more positive than negative with all these rookie quarterbacks. I think it's just a fun way to start August with all the people we talked about in the spring having a promising beginning to their NFL careers.


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[Assistant] And as we often like to do, and I don't know if this is a Chris idea, a Pete Dee idea, a Matt idea, but we're kind of going under the heading as we dive into each one of these situations with the, I've seen enough. Backing up to like a,


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[Assistant] With the Chicago Bears. Andy Dalton is the starter. Right. Uhm, and Pete, you wanna start out with Matt Nagy?


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[Assistant] Okay, here's Matt Nagy after the preseason game over the weekend against the Buffalo Bills, uh, asked about if anything had changed between the Andy Dalton and Justin Fields competition where it was really Andy Dalton's all along. Here's Matt after the game.


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[Assistant] But he must have come a long way because when we were talking in the spring, you had some doubts about him as a first round quarterback. And as you've watched him now, it feels like, just listening to you, he's starting to kind of turn the tide a little bit with how you feel about him. What's the best thing he's shown you to take you from April to where you are now saying, you know what? I think he should be the starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] You've seen this before with, with Trabisky, with Foals. I mean, how much different is it going to look? And Fields gives him a much different look. How much, how much should it matter as I think about, okay, Justin Fields potentially the starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] The one play that got all the highlights against Buffalo where he got blown up. He didn't, he didn't know the rush was coming from the right side. He wasn't looking at it. Negative plays like that. There could be three or four of those a game where with Dalton there might be one or two. How much does that matter?


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[Assistant] A bunch of responses there. Number one, I do think there are politics involved. If part of the politics is Matt Nagy thinking, if we go seven and ten, and I started Andy Dalton half the season, that looks like a poor decision. I botched this thing.


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[Assistant] He's gonna lose his job. If they go 8-9 with Fields playing most of the season and him getting a little better.


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[Assistant] Each and every month, he might keep his job with a, with a ride around 500 team and Justin Fields moving in the right direction. He got him in there early. So politics for that. Yeah, he should be thinking about that. A couple other parts of you should be thinking about this looks to be the one situation where if you don't start the rookie first rounder, there could be a mutiny.


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[Assistant] At Soldier Field. Yeah. I'm not talking about with the players. I know. And a coach is not thinking about the fans. However, you also have to know the temperature of the town. Andy Dalton goes 0 for 2 on the first series.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be crazy, the atmosphere for Justin Fields. How long can you keep that off or keep that at bay? Right. Just to stick with Andy Dalton.


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[Assistant] Then you also have to wonder about the locker room, because I'm sure guys are noticing just what you're noticing, like, hey, this kid's pretty good. Right. Let's, let's, let's try it. Yeah, we know he might make a mistake or two, but let's go. If we start Andy Dalton and we get spanked by the Rams, why not roll him out there for the Bengals and the Browns and get this thing started? So, uh, if those all count as politics, yes, they do matter. And I think Matt Nagy ought to be thankful.


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[Assistant] Yep. Average season with Andy Dalton most of the time is going to cost him his job. Average season with, with fields. I know. Could stick around.


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[Assistant] I think it depends on how early he made the change. Maybe how early he makes the change, right? If they go 0 for 3 in September, that might have been waiting too long. So, we shall see. San Francisco, you watched last night, right? Of course.


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[Assistant] Trey Lance was pretty good. Before we get into that, Cal Shanahan of course asked after the game because Trey Lance had a very good finish to the first half and some strong moments in the second half. If anything had changed between Jimmy G and Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] I think most people are excited about Trey Lance, I know you are too, based off of what he did into the first half, second half, but you can't unsee the first three series he played also, right? I know, I know. Maybe that's hanging on his mind.


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[Assistant] I think it should be pointed out too that even though both of the interceptions from those two quarterbacks came on the in breaking rounds over the middle, Garoppolo's was a much more catchable ball.


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[Assistant] This is what happens in the preseason. You kind of get into the weeds on a couple of throws that ultimately don't matter. But Garoppolo I think threw a good ball a little bit high. Yea, it was high. This is a tough ball to catch because of the pace like you talked about and how far behind him it is. Yea, exactly. It's a big miss.


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[Assistant] I think that's a great point. There's another part of the heavy ball without the right kind of RPMs. The receiver's gonna see where it is and put his hands up.


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[Assistant] A couple of things to point out to as I listen to you. I want to back up to something you said a few moments ago. Super Bowl caliber team. This is the one situation of all these rookies we're talking about. The one guy who's walking into a situation where we can say that.


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[Assistant] They have postseason expectations, and even though Jimmy Garoppolo leaves a lot to be desired with how he's played the last two or three years, you could picture them going 13-4 with him playing pretty well. It wouldn't be shocking, no. Can you picture them doing that with Trey Lance? I don't know.


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[Assistant] If you, if you're a Niners fan, assume Jimmy G's gonna play pretty well most of the time, and run Lance out there for one or two series a game, like have a special package for him to where you're not giving him the keys to the car and saying, hope to see you in February at the Super Bowl, but you are taking advantage of his talent with a couple series a game where you have a special package for him.


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[Assistant] Moving on to Jimmy G's old team, the Patriots. Interesting quarterback situation there. The competition between Cam Newton and Mack Jones. I think it's a,


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[Assistant] Just a double positive. Both guys playing well. Feels like Cam Newton is going to be the starter this morning. Bill Belichick said the fact that Cam started last year and he's here, somebody would have to play better than him. Training camp is all about competition and he has looked good. So all signs point to Cam being the guy to start the season at least.


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[Assistant] But then also the news comes out this morning. It cams out the next five days.


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[Assistant] It does make you, it's going to tap the brakes on the progress that Cam was making. However, also got to point out that these aren't garden variety practices this week. The Giants are coming in for two of those practices we talked about earlier. So yes, they're playing this weekend and by the numbers we have today, it looks like Cam Newton should play in the game, but he's going to miss.