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[Assistant] It's pretty, I think it's pretty fair to say that like the, the AFC South is the worst pro-Bowl House. Okay. Yes. That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to answer the question here. Okay. Well, yeah, but you agree with me a breach.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have to get to clear the middle to get to the top and bottom. Uh, Molly P asking the chat who would be your coaches for each of those. That's a good one. So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you have to go Belichick, still the AFC East, right? Oh, that's like an Andy Reid was the first one popped in my mind. No, I'm going division by division. So AFC East, Belichick. Alright, who's AFC North? Oh, I know. Has anyone taken Zach Taylor? No. We could try and pretend that you would.


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[Assistant] He's the third longest tenured head coach in his own division. He's the best coach.


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[Assistant] The MSU South is tough. Oh my God, Matt Ruhl is the longest-tenured head coach in the MSU South.


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[Assistant] Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Make sure and check out tomorrow's show on the future awards markets that we, the bets that we make. And of course, Thursday is football.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not in there yet. I'll jump in. Although I was in there last year, so I don't know.


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[Assistant] For me, it's the Eagles. I just think that they are a more well-rounded team defensively, offensively, and it really just stems around Jalen Hurts, right? Like, if he is making the strides that we've seen this preseason, if that bleeds over into the regular season as a passer,


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[Assistant] Well, then I don't know how you, how you stop that, especially with Dallas now dealing with injuries and, and you know, we don't know what CD lamb is going to look like as the number one wide receiver. And maybe he's going to look great, but more, but more importantly, what's going to look at, like at the number two spot, obviously Michael Gallup.


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[Assistant] Not being the number, you know, number two guy. Can Dalton Schultz be that or whatever? So for me, I just like Philadelphia much more, especially if Jalen Hartz is continuing what we've seen this preseason.


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[Assistant] Not at all. And so really, you know, like I keep saying, it goes back to Jalen Hurts for me. That's the biggest...


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[Assistant] I think that for me is, is the biggest piece of it too. Like, you know, defensively even too, they still have great pieces. Obviously, Micah Parsons going into year two. Like, you're, you're pretty optimistic about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're pretty optimistic about what they have going on, but there is the question of the coaching situation, whether or not that's going to be an Achilles heel for them. And then when you start looking at the Eagles, they seem a little bit more put together and there's a much


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[Assistant] It's interesting in the fact that they have the easiest schedule in the NFL when you look at projected win totals. So, but the thing is for me, Philadelphia is number two. So I like Philadelphia's roster is better when you start looking at the projected, you know, win totals in terms of strength of schedule.


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[Assistant] You lean a little bit more to Philadelphia, but I mean, if the Brian Dayball thing works and all of a sudden, you know, he works his magic like he's done before with Daniel Jones, I guess maybe you can get a little interesting there, but in terms of the last place teams that we're looking at in these odds today,


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[Assistant] The Giants aren't up there on my list to make that crazy run. They're just, it's just not it. For me it's, for me it's Philadelphia by a pretty considerable margin when you look at everything.


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[Assistant] I think that there's a little bit too much being played about the Devontae Adams departure. Like, I think that that's what this is all pretty much predicated on. Like, oh, what's gonna happen with this offense?


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[Assistant] You still have Aaron Rodgers and you can spread the ball around. Like I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs are getting docked as much as for the departure of Tyree Kill. I know they're different players and stuff, but I'm just saying, you know, you lose a pro bowl, all pro type of wide receiver. I feel like the Packers are really getting dinged and it's just.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's going to make that much of a difference and I'm not trying to belittle Devontae Adams, but at the same time, he is a wide receiver. It's not like they lost the quarterback. It's not like Aaron Rodgers retired and they're going to Jordan Love and it's a wholly, totally different situation.


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[Assistant] I have relative faith that Aaron Rodgers will be able to figure out it, figure things out offensively, whether it's Romeo dubs or your daubs or what, you know, whatever we're calling them today.


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[Assistant] Sammy Watkins and all those guys, I feel like he'll be able to piece it along.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you on that. If anything, in terms of what we like for value, for me, it's the Vikings. Just because there is the realm of possibility where the floor does fall out of this Packers offense. I mean, you know, we don't expect that, but there is the possibility that that happens. And on the flip side,


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[Assistant] This Vikings offense could go nuclear in 2022. I mean, it really could under Kevin O'Connell, a head coach that actually likes his quarterback, Kirk Cousins. This time around, you have Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen, Dalvin Cook. Like there are pieces in place where


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[Assistant] If they start adopting a Sean McVeigh style offense, which obviously that's where this is coming from, from with Kevin O'Connell.


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[Assistant] You could really see some numbers really pop up and all of a sudden if these turn into track meets with the Packers and the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I feel, I feel like if I say like, oh, they're going to go nuclear in terms of like an offense, that's how I would say it. But if I said nuclear bomb, I'm saying it a little bit more stretched out, but I don't know if I'm just saying that right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that sounds like something the internet just decides to get annoyed about.


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[Assistant] And for me, if we're talking, you know, general futures, obviously we're focusing more on the divisions, but I've been hammering this one home all off season. I have it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I've betted a couple of different times this off season. The Bears to be, to be, no, no, no, the Bears to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL. I keep hammering that one. I don't know what it is right now. I can, I can kind of.


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[Assistant] For a minute there, I've gotten a few times, uhm, this offseason where the Texans and the Falcons have been ahead of them. They've had the third, third worst. And so, you know, I just feel like after, what we've seen this offseason, that offensive line,


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[Assistant] And, you know, I know Darnell Mooney's interesting from a fantasy perspective in terms of like, just the target volume, but that's really about it they have in terms of offensively. I know, you know, to me it just seems like that's going to be a very low scoring offense.


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[Assistant] Nucular, uh, well, now, now I don't know which way is up. I can't even.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So right now, I mean, I only have it at DraftKings just cause I don't, I don't have it at, uh, this is where I, you know, where I have it.


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[Assistant] The same thing. Falcons plus, uh, are 5 to 1 to be the lowest scoring offense. Houston Texans plus 500, uh, 550. Houston, uh, the Chicago Bears 6 to 1.


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[Assistant] So that, that just, that to me is the one that I really like to chew on in this division.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, we're just talking about them. They're currently the favorites to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL. You're not picking them to win the division anytime soon.


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[Assistant] But when we, when you look at the Buccaneers, yeaah, I mean you just can't bet that even though they are the logical pick to win the division. But they're, like we're saying, there is a world where this kinda doesn't really work out for them. We talk about the offensive line even before all of these injuries.


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[Assistant] The right guard, left guard, and center spots were all going to be different going into this year. They obviously Ali Marpet retired, lose Alex Kaepern pre-agency, and then Ryan Jensen goes down with the injury.


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[Assistant] It's, you're already starting to have a huge shake up and even Tristan works was banged up at a point this summer too. So you're talking about when Tom Brady came back, a total from his hiatus, hiatus, not retirement. You're looking at a total almost revamp of that offensive line and specifically the interior. What has been the book on Tom Brady throughout his entire career?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's like every quarterback, but you pressure him up the middle and he kind of will be quick to bail out of the play, whether it be, you know, throwing it away, throw it in the dirt.


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[Assistant] He will bail out on it. So when you look at like week one against Dallas, what's stopping Micah Parsons and the Cowboys from just rushing up the middle every single time and wrecking Tom Brady on a given snap? And so that's the mold there.


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[Assistant] If you're someone who wants to bet the Saints here, it's, if things go awry, they just can't block anybody upfront. And a 45 year old Tom Brady gets hurt. And you know, that's kind of the way you play it.


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[Assistant] And not only that, like we, I mean, again, Tom Brady, like we're throwing the caveat out there. There's always, he's an exception to the rule almost every single time.


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[Assistant] Every time we look at these players that like retire, but then come back, they have one foot out the door and then they're like, you know what, I'm going to make it one more year. That, that lack, that following season, that, that season always is underwhelming pretty much all the time, right? It always feels like when they kind of flirt with retirement, but they're like, you know what?


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[Assistant] Let me just roll back in. It's always underwhelming. And again, Tom Brady could.


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[Assistant] Like we're talking about. If he's getting banged up and just absolutely destroyed middle of the season, he's going to be thinking about that Fox contract. And it's just going to be like, you know what? Let me just start thinking about my broadcasting career. Let's get this cushy gig going at this point. Like that's, that is a possibility of what you're thinking about.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I'm picking the bucks and then value wise, I think the Saints are super interesting, especially, you know, I know Michael Thomas is dealing with a hamstring injury right now, but.


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[Assistant] All, everything leading up to that was Michael Thomas is back. He is the same guy. All the reports out of camp. And if James is healthy...


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[Assistant] He was above 500 with them last year, so it's possible.


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[Assistant] They're talking about it like it's a baseball injury and, and, and it's uncommon for quarterbacks. And so whenever you hear like, this is a different sport type of injury, it's totally uncommon. The alarm bells start to ring. Not only the fact that you do have a suitable hangover, like it is, there is something to be said for teams not.


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[Assistant] For me, the 49ers are ready made. They were in the NFC Championship a year ago. They were a play away from, you know, from really, you know, making huge noise. And...


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[Assistant] They, theoretically, I guess in their minds, improved in quarterback. Like, we'll see what Trey Lance looks like, but...


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[Assistant] From everything that they're doing, they've traded up for this guy, they're moving on from Jimmy Garoppolo, they feel like a team that just got better at the most important position. And so, I don't know how you don't, I don't know how you ignore that when you're looking at these futures bets.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't see the Cardinals right now. Obviously Seattle with their current quarterback situation. I can't see.


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[Assistant] And if you're looking at something else to try to make this decision, because again, it is relatively close. The Rams have the second toughest schedule in the NFL this season, while the 49ers are 13th. So they have the 13th easiest schedule. So there's a, there's a huge swing there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're relatively the same, yeah. I think I'm a little bit more into the Saints and possibly Vikings than you.


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[Assistant] They're insane. I mean, you see that game last week where the starters are playing, like we talked about the Ken Dorsey thing, like how's it gonna look?


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[Assistant] Six possessions, six touchdowns. Josh Allen was insane. Like, okay, we're good. I don't really have too many worries about them anymore in terms of that stuff.


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[Assistant] Yes, and they were, yea, cause there was a period where the Patriots were the number one seed.


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[Assistant] Quickly, what is, uh, I mean, we're getting a little risky, but what about Bills, I was gonna say Bills 49ers.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. You're just, you're just really, the wild card there at San Francisco, but as we just mentioned, we like them.


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[Assistant] No, not for the division, for me at least, you know, it's not the Patriots at all at this period in the Dolphins, I guess, maybe like, you know, if you want to get really.


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[Assistant] Bananas and just say, all right, two hits and everything works like fine, I guess. Jets absolutely not. I mean, they go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I'm hittin'. That's what I'm lookin' at. Right now, it just doesn't look like a good football team.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean for me, the biggest thing that I think is somewhat not getting talked about too too much is obviously the offensive play caller stuff. Like that's what we're looking at. And we're looking at Matt Patricia being the O.C. But in title right now, he is the offensive line coach and


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[Assistant] The offensive line has looked horrible every single time they go into 11 on 11s, competitive drills, preseason, whatever. And...


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[Assistant] I wonder is Matt Patricia spread a little bit too thin where he's running the offense and he's supposed to be coaching the offensive line and it's...


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[Assistant] Not really working and so that to me is the offensive line is where I'm having my biggest concerns right now because that's been blowing everything up so far.


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[Assistant] Right. And so, you know, for me, the combination, I mean, there are already, you know, there's rumors that they're, you know, open to moving on from Isaiah Nguyen and...


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[Assistant] You know, you're like, okay, well, you know, do you move a Wendou over to right tackle? And you just, again, there's a lot of questions there. And when we're talking about a team that, you know, right now, or like, can they win the division? I don't even know if they can reach their win total. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's silly. For me, it's the Ravens. I mean, they're gonna see positive injury reduction. Like, all of these guys are coming back.


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson, I think the motivation to get a contract if he's not signed by that period is a huge piece to it. And so, you know, for me, it's just that.


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[Assistant] It just feels like this is their time here, and they're playing on a, it's not a last place schedule, but it's a, I think it's a third place schedule? Right? They didn't technically come in last, did they?


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[Assistant] No, I think they're actually near a top 10, you know, easiest schedule in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Okay, so maybe yeaah, maybe there was some tiebreaker there, but again, the way that they're bringing everybody back, the secondary is gonna be so much better than it was a year ago. Lamar Jackson obviously healthy, J.K. Dobbins healthy.


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[Assistant] I mean, does Isaiah likely kid? The tight end is preseason darling. If he's anything like that in the regular season, him and Mark Ganger is going to be a lethal combo at the tight end spot. Like, that's, that's a good team.


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[Assistant] I mean, from what we've seen so far, we've talked about the, about Kenny, Kenny Pickett too, like, you know, is they, are they a, and I think Brenton left, but, you know, talking about the Steelers,


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[Assistant] With Kenny Pickett, he's looked phenomenal this preseason. And so at some point, they're going to transition over to him. So whether it's...


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[Assistant] Mitchell Trubisky, I know you laughed. I just kept going with it. I wouldn't worry about you. And so for me, the Kenny Pickett stuff, if he is.


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[Assistant] Bargain injury. You cut him almost. It's similar to what you did, what New England did last year with Mac Jones. It was stunner. Mac Jones is our guy. We cut Cam Newton. There's no going back.


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[Assistant] Right, and I think, but I think that there's a scenario where it, it is, you know, you could cut, you know, Mitchell Drabisky and still have Mason Rudolph back there, and he's a Brian Hoyer comp. I'm looking at, I'm looking at the situation almost very similar to what last summer was with the Patriots, and


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[Assistant] I just think again, if you feel like you're producing at a similar level with the ones with Kenny Pickett and Mitchell Trubisky, I don't know why you don't just start the thing earlier. And so the biggest concern for me, you would think it would be the quarterback position, but it's that offensive line for the Steelers. That's the one thing that's going to prevent them from.


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[Assistant] Continuing Mike Tomlin's streak of having a above 500 record every single season he's been the head coach. If they can somehow fix that up, they have the defense, they have the skilled position players and a capable quarterback situation for them to.


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[Assistant] Offseason or, you know, summer surgery or something like that.


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[Assistant] I don't know exactly where he is at this point, but no, I mean there-


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[Assistant] You're fine there, but they did sign Stefan Gilmour, like if you're just tuning back in and you're getting your feet wet back in football, Stefan Gilmour on the Annapolis Colts, that's obviously a plus for that secondary. And so yeah, they should be the favorites. I mean, I think, like we were saying, we sniffed this out right around the time the schedule came out too, when we were looking at these odds.


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[Assistant] This kind of felt like, you know, they were being undervalued and the market has kind of corrected itself to get them back up there as the favorites. The Titans, I think a lot of people feel like are going to take a step back this year. I'm one of those people. I think that that


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[Assistant] downward trajectory of Ryan Tannehill is going to continue. I think that the turnovers and the hype this summer about Malik Willis and all that stuff is going to really fight against his production this year. I don't think he's at risk of losing his job or anything.


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[Assistant] See, this is where, this, I'm excited about this because if you are gonna sprinkle that plus 650 on the Jaguars to win that division, I would use that money elsewhere. I would bet Doug Peterson win coach of the year at 20 to 1. There you go.


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[Assistant] Those things are so connected it's not even funny. If all of a sudden the Jaguars win the division and they're in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] So, exactly. So for me, that's, this is where you kind of have to shop around and kind of have, you know, the galaxy brain a little bit where, alright, if you want to value play here, the Jaguars, well okay, play it out. They win that division, what else happens? That means...


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[Assistant] Maybe Trevor Lawrence probably has a really good year. Maybe Travis Etienne has a really good year. You look at his comeback play of the year odds or you look at the head coach because there's already going to be this narrative of


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[Assistant] Going from Urban Meyer to Doug Peterson that I think is gonna get Doug Peterson votes as long as they have their heads above water. Like there's gonna be some momentum for that just because there's the disdain for Urban Meyer and how that thing went, went last year. And so if all of a sudden you're talking about them winning a division,


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[Assistant] That's a slam dunk coach of the year award, and you, instead of putting it on plus 650, you have a 20 to 1 ticket.


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[Assistant] It was really bad. And then when you look at the prospect that is Trevor Lawrence, I mean, we put him, I mean, it's not unfair. I mean, we put him on the same pedestal as Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, John Elway when he's coming into the league.


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[Assistant] And if we just stay in this division and keep that same kind of look at the prospect, Andrew Luck was in the playoffs, was taking a horrible, horrible Colts team.


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[Assistant] I was taking them to the playoffs and being competitive and I think he was in the divisional round.


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[Assistant] Gets back on track and is that generational kind of guy can lift that organization up. It's a much more talented roster than what Indianapolis was dealing with back then.


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[Assistant] What? I think it's probably just the more teams, I mean, obviously.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you on the Chiefs. I look at them. It's funny. I mean, I look at them.


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[Assistant] Very similar to how the NFL world used to look at the Patriots with Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. It's just, alright, well, you never know, this could be the year they actually don't, man, look what everything's going on all around the league, and it's totally different. Maybe Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, this is it.


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden at the end of the year, every single time, pretty much they're like in the AFC championship, they're in a Superbowl, they're hoisting the Lombardi Trophy. I feel that same way now with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Yes, things have gone in and out. They've kind of reshuffled a little bit, but.


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[Assistant] I mean, you look at that preseason game too, you know, last week, Mahomes still looks insane. He's just absolutely ridiculous. You have to...


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[Assistant] If you think the difference between a Tyree Kill-led team and without, with the Chiefs without Tyree Kill or with them, is the difference between a Super Bowl, you're very much discrediting the talent that is Patrick Malms. Like, he is able to spread that ball around like it's, like, like anything.


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[Assistant] I mean, so for me, I'm just gonna bank with consistency and as much as the Broncos and the Chargers are interesting because of their quarterback situations and how we like their additions and all of that.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go tried and true and just bank on, you know what, the cheese is just gonna be that good. They're inevitable.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm trying to remember what you said before. Was it, uh, was it like na-


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[Assistant] I mean like we're saying, we're not reaching. It's not like we're throwing a Jaguars in there or a Raiders in there to spike up the number.


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[Assistant] Stinky thing. Caesar's throwing me a bone here. Thank you, Nada.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports, a daily NFL podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I'm your host. If you're watching on YouTube.


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[Assistant] youtube.com slash pick six, where we go live every day at 1pm Eastern from now until the earth explodes. It is Friday, September 2nd.


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[Assistant] If you're listening to the podcast and audio forum, which is probably the majority of you, that means it is, I guess, Labor Day. So three, four, five, Monday, September 5th, which means John breach.


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[Assistant] It's fair, it's fair. Uhm, I've decided to go all pen and paper today.


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[Assistant] Somebody got hurt? No, it's the stupidest thing of all time, but it did decide who my NFC pick is going to be.


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[Assistant] Trey Serman was waived by the 49ers and claimed by the Eagles. I have to be all out on the Eagles. Eagles over Ravens. That's my Super Bowl pick.


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[Assistant] I quote tweeted the, the PO, the mascot getting hurt and was like, if, if this gets a thousand retweets, I'll try out for PO and it got like 10,000 retweets. So enjoy that, Benjamin.


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[Assistant] Let's dive in on the AFC East and we start with, of course, oh God, I have something funky with my computer.


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[Assistant] With the Buffalo Bills, where else would we start? 11 and a half over minus 140 breach under minus plus 118 last year around this time.


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[Assistant] The bills had creeped up to 11. I had given them out at 10 and a half and said it was a


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[Assistant] Mortal lock and they snuck in to get the eleven, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, what are your thoughts on the Buffalo Bills over under 11 and a half? A huge number.


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[Assistant] Not with the Patriots looking woofy on, uh, offense and who knows on defense. You know, the Dolphins, I'm not, I'm just not, I mean.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't want to comment on it. I've got like dolphin, we're going to the dolphins in a minute. I think it's over and nothing for the bills. You cannot take the under.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, it's a tough schedule to start. Absolutely. Now I'm looking at this. I mean, they're the best team in football, probably.


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[Assistant] Right. And their weeks, they have a week, seven bio between chiefs and Packers. But if they finish those six, six games, seven games, seven games.


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[Assistant] If they finish those seven games, like five and two, then they're just going to steamroll the entire year and be the number one seed. Yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So maybe the move is to wait until if you're going to, if you want to bet the bills, maybe the move is to wait until you get through that stretch and hope they stumble a little bit. They do have a new OC Trudevius whites on pop. He's going to miss the first four games.


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[Assistant] Josh Dooley asked in the chat, do we overlook the Josh Allen accuracy issues that easily? I feel like Josh Allen fixed his accuracy issues. Like he's just accurate now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not taking the under on this. The only hesitation I would have is that will the offense change it all with Ken Dorsey running it?


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[Assistant] You know, does Trudevius White being absent for the first four games impact that that brutal schedule? And if they do go like two and four, you're going to have a really.


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[Assistant] You know, uphill battle to get to that 12, but it could still happen. Alright, the Patriots, or the Dolphins next actually.


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[Assistant] The Dolphins are next, wow. The Patriots are the third team in the...


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[Assistant] AFC is the Dolphins over eight and a half minus 135.


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[Assistant] Under 8.5 plus 115, uh, as someone who is under siege or was under siege for 48 hours from Dolphins fans and Dolphins, Dolphins beat writers.


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[Assistant] And there's still Dolphins Beat writers who are like, subtweeting me. And then like somebody, some big Dolphins fan tags me in the comments.


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[Assistant] I should probably recuse myself from picking this because I am exuberantly hoping that this under hits and I want all unders to hit. I want the Dolphins to win two games. Like I want them to win two games and that's it.


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[Assistant] And then Dolphins fans just won't say anything to me for the rest of the year. If they win 12 games, it's going to be a long season for me.


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[Assistant] David Harris fumbled late to give the Dolphins a victory when the Patriots should have


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[Assistant] There's basically two stretches that will probably determine this over-under.


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[Assistant] We're determined whether it goes over or under, excuse me. I really am like kind of freaking out without having my laptop in front of me. This is very bizarre feeling.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Patriots week one through week four.


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[Assistant] It's Patriots at Ravens versus Bills at Bengals.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not saying they're going to go in four. I'm not, I'm not saying that, but that is not implausible, right? No, it's not impossible at all. If they go two and two, I think that's a pretty good effort. And then there's a stretch on the back half of the schedule.


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[Assistant] Uh, where in week 13, at 49ers, at Chargers, at Bills, three straight weeks, that is a tough stretch. Packers at home, at Patriots, that five game stretch, like that's a really, really difficult five game stretch.


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[Assistant] And so if you go one, if you go one and three in the first four games and one and four in that stretch.


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[Assistant] Which is not crazy. You're two and seven. And so you've got to basically win. What? Uh, eight, your other eight games.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I would lean under here on the Dolphins because I, not because, despite one, but because the schedule looks kind of difficult.


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[Assistant] Moving along to the New England Patriots, where our good friend Sully has told us repeatedly to hammer the under on the New England Patriots.


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[Assistant] And this is part of the reason why you maybe like the over on the Dolphins and certainly like the over on the Bills is it looks like the Patriots are a flaming hot Cheeto basically on offense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, over eight and a half is minus 125 under eight and a half is plus 105. I can't.


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[Assistant] Justified taking an under eight and a half with Bill Belichick. Like. I mean, right? Like.


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[Assistant] It is, if this was like, if, if we flip the Dolphins and the Patriots and might be Daniel was Belichick's offensive coordinator and they had, you know, Tyreek Hill and we'd be like Patriots who went in 14 games.


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[Assistant] And if the Dolphins had Joe Judge and Matt Patricia running their offense, we'd be like, this is a three-win team. Right.


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[Assistant] So it's like, it, it, it, once again, just comes down to.


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[Assistant] Are you willing to trust the greatest head coach in the history of professional football? Even when he's at his like, like absolute lowest point post Brady.


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[Assistant] The office is such a red flag and such a concern that it's, I mean,


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[Assistant] I'm not taking the under, but I would lean towards the under. Okay.


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[Assistant] They have a not so robust five and a half over under. I believe it's a heavily juice to the over. It's breached disappears into a mall blur over five and a half minus 150.


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[Assistant] I mean, what do you do with that? Under five and a half plus 126. There's no way in hell I would lay 150 on the Jets over for an entire season of five and a half. Like that's just your


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[Assistant] Oh man, at Browns versus Bengals at Steelers.


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[Assistant] So basically Joe Flacco against the AFC North to start the season for the Jets.


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[Assistant] Beat the Browns without Deshaun Watson on the road in week two. The Lions at home in week 15. The Jaguars at home in week 16.


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[Assistant] At the Seahawks, like there's just, I guess the Bears are turning week 12. I mean, if, if.


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson, come back and be effective. And if this defensive Robert solid in year two, he said, acknowledging his obvious mistake from our previous podcast.


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[Assistant] Can take a big step forward and Carl Lawson being back helps a lot, I guess. Like this is a.


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[Assistant] Breach it wrong. I mean, it's the four games against the AFC North, Dolphins at home, at the Packers, at the Broncos, Patriots at home, Bills at home. Like that is a legitimate 0-9 potential start unless, unless Joe Flacco is just bringing back like, you know,


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[Assistant] Joe Montana, Joe Flacco from the playoffs when they made that Super Bowl run and or Zach Wilson comes back from this.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think that's probably a Browns minus like two Browns minus three.


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[Assistant] And then you split with the, they're not gonna, Belichick will beat him twice. And then you split with the Dolphins, I guess. Maybe crowns? I might like this under. Uhm, I'm on under. Yeah, I think I'm on the under. I mean, I'm definitely on the under. I'm trying to decide if that's gonna be a best bet or not. Plus 126 is tasty. All right, let's go to the AFC. Let me start with the Baltimore Ravens.


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[Assistant] My Baltimore Ravens, my Super Bowl pick. Nine and a half over, under for the Ravens. Oh Lord have mercy. Minus 165, just move it to 10 already. Ridiculous. I mean.


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[Assistant] I would, I would lay 165 on this at nine and a half. The Ravens are winning double digit games.


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[Assistant] Half their roster, which they dealt with last year. This is a 10 plus win team. Lock it down. They have a last place schedule.


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[Assistant] They have a great coach of John Harbaugh. They have an MVP caliber quarterback playing for a contract.


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[Assistant] They should get some regression in terms of injuries, like should be a healthier team in general. I mean, 165 is obscene, but that's the best bet for me.


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[Assistant] I would almost rather than make it like over under 10 minus 110. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think, I think they'll, I think they'll beat 10 anyway.


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[Assistant] So I'd rather it be like minus one tenths, you don't have to lay the 165, but I mean nine and a half is like that's going over.


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[Assistant] They have the Panthers, Jags, I mean, they get the freaking AFC South or NSC South, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Bills at home in week three. I mean, there's some tough games early on, but I mean, this team could be, I don't know, six and three going to the bye in week 10.


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[Assistant] Right. I mean, that's, it's easy. Like that's an over. It's just, it's just expensive to play. Bengals. Over, under.


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[Assistant] Nine and a half as well. A little bit cheaper. Minus 135, I believe it's Caesar's. Your bangles, Breach. Talk me into, uh, I mean, you're not gonna take the under, obviously.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm fading Joe burrow unless we get some sort of news that this burst appendix or, you know, the appendectomy is like a major problem. You're right. I mean, like this is, they have the best receiving core in football. I would say at least trio. Who's the, uh, yeah, I guess if you wanted


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[Assistant] They have the best young receiving court in football. How about that?


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[Assistant] Four of the first six games on the road is not ideal. They gotta make, they have to make their hay. Week seven.


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[Assistant] Through week 12 and it's not gonna be easy either. Like Falcons at home at Brown's Panthers at home, then they're by at Steelers at Titans because that the end of the schedule is pretty dang tough. You're gonna have Watson back in theory for the Browns.


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[Assistant] Chief, sit home, at Buccaneers, at Patriots, vs. Bills, vs. Ravens to close out, man. That is not easy.


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[Assistant] Cleveland Browns over under eight and a half, the under heavily juiced.


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[Assistant] At minus 155, I believe, of course, Tashawn Watson will miss.


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[Assistant] 11 games he will return in week 13, I believe against the Houston Texans, which


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[Assistant] I mean, this is like, what's the, what's the win total with Deshaun? Like a full season of Deshaun Watson? Is it like nine? I mean, is it only like one game higher or is it?


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[Assistant] So it's at Panthers, Jets at home, Steelers at home, at Falcons. Then it gets obviously a lot tougher. Chargers at home, Patriots at home, at Ravens, versus the Bengals. I think the win total for the Browns hinges almost entirely on these first four games.


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[Assistant] Cause I mean, look, you don't have Watson. You were playing with your Kirby reset. The jets are.


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[Assistant] You know, not like, I mean, the Jets could be at least frisky. The Steelers, you know, sort of unknown with the quarterback situation and you're at Panthers at Falcons, like.


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[Assistant] If you lay an egg at the Panthers and at the Falcons, that's a big, big problem for trying to get over eight and a half. I would, I would lean under just cause you're talking about no Deshaun Watson for 11 games.


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[Assistant] And I mean, I think like from a physical standpoint, you do have to at least worry about, you know, will he be in game ready shape where he won't suffer an injury? This guy has two torn ACLs in his career, I believe one in college and one obviously his, uh,


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[Assistant] His first year in the NFL. So yeah, I would definitely lean under on the Browns. Steelers total is, Steelers are interesting because they, you know, over under seven and a half.


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[Assistant] Vegas is stating that Mike Tomlin could finish under 500 for the first time in his career as a head coach and the under is juiced to minus 135.


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[Assistant] Like he went on the road, didn't, didn't duck Hodges win in LA? I mean, it was great. It was like a home game with the terrible towels there against the Chargers, but didn't he went on like Sunday night or keep it close?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not, I'm not taking the under here. I think, I think Trubisky and Kenny Pickett are upgrades over Big Ben. I think the, uh, the over is probably a pretty good look. I'm shocked. It's juiced to the under. I mean, the schedule is tough for sure, but you get, you know, you get the Falcons, Panthers, another obvious easy win jets. Okay. This is a pretty tough schedule, but you get the Browns with no Watson once.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, not the best bet, but I would go over if I was picking it.


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[Assistant] All right, uh, let's take a break and when we come back, we will hit up the other two AFC divisions next.


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[Assistant] All right, let's go to the AFC South. South? I really, I mean, I feel like, uh, like not having my laptop computer is freaking me freak out.


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[Assistant] We'll start with the Colts over under 10 wins. John breeches threatened to plant his flag in Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] As the team of destiny with Matt Ryan, but you got a little scared when talking about it yesterday.


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[Assistant] Tim is a pretty big number for the Colts. Although you see these Matt Ryan clips and like Michael Pittman looks awesome. Ryan sling it around. You know, they have a good offensive line. John Taylor is there. Of course, it would be pretty shocking if the offense was bad. I think for me, the bigger question is,


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[Assistant] With no Matt Eberfluss there and now Gus Bradley's taking over. Will this defense be?


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[Assistant] Better than the sum of its parts, which it's been the last few years, and I think there's a chance it might not be, which is what worries me a little bit.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure if I was like drinking a bunch of fireball or something when I sent the picks into Jordan Dujani, but I picked the Jaguars to win the division.


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[Assistant] I think the one, I mean, again, like the defense is definitely a concern. The offensive line is, should be better than it was last year. I think part of like the offensive line was probably almost, or actually certainly.


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[Assistant] Like ugly games week one or week 18. So that would be just if you take 10.


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[Assistant] And their first two games are at Houston and then second week is at Jacksonville. If they started 0-2.


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[Assistant] Like Jim Ursay would be smashing guitars over like blue stampede head or whatever the mascot is.


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[Assistant] Yes, I think you can. That's what I'm gonna do here. Minus 250 to go to. Um, alright.


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[Assistant] Titans over under nine and a half. Man, the under is crazy juiced. Vegas is out on Mike Vrabel's team. The under is minus 155. The over nine and a half is plus 135 for each. You finally you're basically Benedict Arnold of Nashville at this point because you have you've stabbed the Titans in the back with a, um,


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[Assistant] A trident, and you've jumped on the Colt's bandwagon. Defend yourself.


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[Assistant] Five games before their week six buy. God, it's such an early buy. That's kind of tough. Like, I mean, I would rather have a week 13 buy than a week six buy. I feel like, you know what I'm saying? Cause you're, you


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[Assistant] If you get, there are Giants at home, which, you know, they should win, but maybe the Giants do something weird. At Bills on Monday night, week two. Verse Raiders at Colts at Washington. Then a bye.


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[Assistant] They still have to play at Chiefs, at Packers, bingles at home, at Eagles, at Chargers. Woo. And if the Jaguars are frisky at all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I would lean under here again, like I wouldn't bet the under because it's too expensive, but given the losses they had on offense by virtue of, you know, the trade and what's Derek Henry going to be like?


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[Assistant] Is Eric Henry gonna be full Derrick Henry? Cause if he is, then whole different ballgame. But if he's not, like if he's banged up Derrick Henry.


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[Assistant] I don't like to fade Mike Vrabel. I would take the under here if I was, if I was forced to pick, I wouldn't bet on it, uh, personally. I'll tell you what, I would bet on Breach.


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[Assistant] The under is minus 120, the over six, uh, over six and a half is plus 100.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know what the hell is the matter with me that I'm jumping on the Jack Horse Bane wagon.


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[Assistant] It's Doug Peterson, baby. I know I'll regret this. They're at Washington week one. I think they're winning that game. Oh man, this is kind of a tough schedule.


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[Assistant] At VersaCultz week two, at Chargers, at Eagles, Versa Texans, at Colts.


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[Assistant] Verse giants, verse Broncos. By the way, the sort of like under the radar is the fact that Frank Reich and Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] You know, Frank Wright was Doug Pearson's OC when they won the Super Bowl. Like that's kind of a.


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[Assistant] What a bit of an interesting chess match that I don't think is being talked about. Right. They do have to play at the Chiefs, but they get at Jets, they get at Lions. Ugh, this is not a great schedule. But I'm just buying into, I buy, I want to buy low on Trevor Lawrence because I think this is as low as you'll be able to buy in on Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] And I trust Doug Peterson just to be better than Urban Meyer. So I'm going to take the over on the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Texans over under four and a half over minus one fifteen under minus one oh five. I mean, golly, maybe I might scratch the Jags off and take the Texans like dude.


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[Assistant] I know that I took the Under and the Bears and the, and the, and the Falcons, so I shouldn't say NFL teams can just stumble to five wins, but this team gets to play the Jaguars twice. They get to play the Titans twice and I know, you know, Titans have a, like the Titans are a lesser version of what we've seen the last few years.


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[Assistant] They have the Browns at home and Deshaun Watson's like, I mean, that's going to be an outrageous atmosphere. Like those fans are going to be, I mean, like as it's going to be ugly in there. I feel like they get the commanders at home.


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[Assistant] And I could, I mean, look, the cold seven, one of the openers is what? 2013? I mean, maybe. Exactly. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Um, I, uh, it's, I think obviously you can't, if you're going to bet on the AFC South, don't bet both the Jaguars and the Texans over. Like that's, that's asking for a lot of, uh, losses in your, in your wallet. Finally, the most popular division of football. AFC West. So hot right now. Just like Hansel.


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[Assistant] 10 and a half minus 125 Andy Reed since when he arrived in KC in 2013 has only missed the over on his win total once and it was last year and I think it was like 11 and a half or 12 or something crazy like that and they came within like a half game. I believe of hitting it because of what's going on in Las Vegas and with the Chargers and with the Broncos.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs value is being pulled down and I think it's a good buy low spot. I've been talking about it for months. I'm not going to stop talking about it now. Give me the Chiefs over 10 and a half.


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[Assistant] They're at Cardinals, Verse Chargers, at Colts, at Bucks, Verse Raiders, Verse Bills, at 49ers before their week 8 buy.


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[Assistant] But at the same thing sort of with the bills where it's like, wow, that's a really tough schedule except.


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[Assistant] They're a really good team and they're going to be favored in most of those games. And it's the other team who should be worried about the Chiefs coming to town or the Bills coming to town. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, they also get the Jaguars and Titans at home, Titans and Jaguars at home, excuse me, uh, and back to back coming out of the buy at the Chargers, which will be a Sea of Red, Rams at home at, this is, it's a tough schedule, but.


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[Assistant] Given that they get to play the AFC South, and you're getting a submerged value, this is a no-brainer for me. Over 10.5 is absolutely the best bet. Jump on it, Brenton. I already jumped on it, buddy. Next up in the AFC West,


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[Assistant] And again, I mentioned this yesterday. They're not moving these numbers. They're moving the juice because they don't want to give people the opportunity to middle. Like they don't want to have a, you know, move it to like 11.


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[Assistant] Well, they don't want to have a nine and a half and a ten and a half and the charges go ten and seven and you hit both. They don't want the opportunity to middle. So they're, they're, they're just cranking the juice up.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Chargers seem like they have a great roster.


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[Assistant] I buy own their coach. Justin Herbert's a absolute superstar, tons of weapons. No reason this team shouldn't win double digit gains, but I wouldn't want to lay 150 on 10. I don't


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[Assistant] The Falcons, Texans, the Jaguars. Oh boy. Yeah. I mean, they should, I mean, there's no reason they shouldn't win 11 games, but.


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[Assistant] They're the chargers. I would just go over to be clear. It's just the juice is just too much for me to.


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[Assistant] Uh, absolutely. And the lowest will be, well, and I guess Denver at home, that will be, that will be a Broncos home game, probably.


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[Assistant] But there'll still be a, it'll be a pick up or they're like minus one or something like that depending on how Russ's looks so far. So yeah, I mean, look, I don't, I wouldn't, you don't take the under on the chargers.


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[Assistant] You just got to lay a bunch of juice at 10 and if they go 10 and seven, it's a really annoying.


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[Assistant] Like net zero investment over the course of several months. But yeah, they should win 11 games or 12 games. It's a really good team. There's still the Chargers breach.


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[Assistant] Also, at 10, except the under is juiced.


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[Assistant] I feel like the Broncos more so maybe the, maybe the chargers are getting the most buzz, but the Broncos are definitely getting like Russ Wilson buzz. I mean, like the.


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[Assistant] It's like Russell Wilson staying late. He's working hard. Receivers are buying in. They're hanging out with Russ.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, they start with the at the Seahawks. I mean, we both said yesterday that has a stinky.


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[Assistant] I think you feel to it where the Seahawks might just pull off something weird, but in theory, you know, the...


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[Assistant] The Broncos should go and win that game. Texas at home, 49ers at home, at Raiders, Colts at home, at Chargers, Jets at home, at Jaguars before their week nine buy. Like that is a really friendly opening schedule.


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[Assistant] There are any hiccups with Nathaniel Hackett and Russ Wilson in this offense, or if this defense is not as good as we expected it to be based on, you know, what we've seen from previous years, it will show up quickly and we will, I think we will know.


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[Assistant] If this team is going to go over the wind total, it's going to come out hot.


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[Assistant] And there'll be seven and three, or excuse me, seven and two, six and three going into that week nine by seven and yeah, six and two, five and three.


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[Assistant] The Las Vegas Raiders. No one there being slept on.


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[Assistant] Eight and a half over minus one 30 under eight and a half plus one 10. You got Derek Carr with a big new contract. Um, I actually, I really think there should be a big year for Derek Carr. Josh McDaniels I think succeeds in the second stop.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would, I mean, I would go over on the Raiders I think.


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[Assistant] At eight and a half. If it were nine and a half, I might go under. The division is so tough, but


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[Assistant] They'll probably, maybe they'll get swept by the Chiefs, but they will definitely be a problem for the Chargers and Broncos.


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[Assistant] Man, this is actually kind of tough to, I think the Raiders are the best bet? Not for me.


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[Assistant] All right, so let's go through our best batch real quick. You do yours first. I'm kind of still.


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[Assistant] I got, uh, I got, actually, oh god, I have four overs. I have four overs.


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[Assistant] I'm going to get bills too at 11 and a half, which I'm probably going to regret, but I, they're just, they're 13, 14 with team.


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[Assistant] Bill's over. Raven's over. I don't care. Minus 165 is a ton, but it's nine and a half. Like that's a joke. It should be ten and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, what are things I will regret in four weeks for $200 Alex? Uh, and then the chiefs over 10 and a half minus one 25. So I have one from each division. It's just, it's basically the, the team that I picked to win the division. I'm taking the overall.


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[Assistant] If their, if their, if their head coach was, I mean, I don't know like name of who's an average head coach.


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[Assistant] Um, probably a better bet than the Jaguar's over, but we will see. Okay. That's, uh.


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[Assistant] That's it. That's the AFC win total pod with our best bets. You check out the NFC win total pod in the feed.


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[Assistant] John Breach and I gave out five Wind Turtles in the NFC each. Spoiler. They all hit. All of them. They all hit.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinton. I'm your host. It is Wednesday, July 27th. If you're listening to the podcast in audio form.


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[Assistant] If you are watching with us live on YouTube, it is Tuesday, July 26.


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[Assistant] And joining me to break down the AFC North, uh, to talk about the AFC North. Uh, Ryan Wilson. What's up, buddy?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we are going to talk about the, uh, AFC North burning training camp questions.


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[Assistant] We'll also get to a little news off the top. Uh, I should also point out that we are still up for the best sports podcast award. The People's Choice Podcast Awards.


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[Assistant] If we get through the finals, then there's like five finalists. And if we, if we win the award, I will get a tattoo. Won't be done in Nashville when we're there. But, uh, like Ryan Wilson's, but, um,


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[Assistant] It'll get done if we win the award, not if we get to the finals have to win the entire award for that to happen. Um, Wilson, let's get you to get to some news.


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[Assistant] Uh, I do think it is, it is good to, like, if you're gonna have appendicitis, uh, it's better to do it, like, have it done now rather than, like,


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, baby. Uhm, but it doesn't sound like it's emergency appendicitis.


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[Assistant] It's no, should be no, should be no, like no big deal at all.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, that's Brandon Allen's younger. I mean, yeah, it's good. If you lose Joe Burrow, you're banged. I mean, you're, you're, you're in a bad spot.


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[Assistant] I guess give you, you know, take Doc me a point too, because I was just like, I was like, yeah, that's right. Right.


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[Assistant] You were like, is Robert Teller really in year three? I was like, absolutely. He's not, he's in year two.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of tweets about the mailbag, uh, with the, with the snakes and the...


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[Assistant] I think it's all over the place on the snakes. I mean, I think most people, I think most people, it's, um.


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[Assistant] Most people believe in their athletic ability enough to suggest that they can beat the snakes versus the, the.


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[Assistant] The potential death risk of hitting a landmine, the unknown of the landmine, I think, I think people prefer, but like, that's easy to say now.


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[Assistant] I think, I think you get up there and it's like, it's like you have to make your choice right before you run. You're a hundred percent picking landmine cause you're looking. Oh no, no you're not.


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[Assistant] Wait, wait, wait. You think if you got up there and you see an empty field, versus a field with a thousand snakes, you're going to pick the, you're going to pick the snakes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Um, yeah, well, it's just more of it like a, there's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, exactly. It's the machismo of the snake. Chismo, he said. Uhm, I'm the one who said that. Uh, Kyler Murray, I found this fascinating. Did you see, did you see the clause in his contract? Did you see the clause?


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[Assistant] The Arizona Cardinals, uh, included a independent study.


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[Assistant] This is pretty wild, man. Ian Rappaport tweeted it out first. I don't think it's often times notable where information comes from in the NFL when you deal with this.


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[Assistant] And, Kyler Murray, there's an addendum in Kyler's new contract that requires the pro bono to, quote, complete at least four hours of independent study


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[Assistant] The cardinals are, by virtue of his contract, making him...


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[Assistant] Work outside of the facility for four hours per week on each game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so uhm, rap sheet actually posted the full contract of it. Now I'll get to something that I find very interesting about it, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Independent study means, this is reading directly from the contract. Independent study means player studies the material provided to him by the club in order to prepare for the club's next upcoming game, including without limitation any such material provided via an iPad or other electronic device.


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[Assistant] He just, it's four hours. No, just the last sentence about the iPads.


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[Assistant] Your 15 year old is not doing his homework. And so you're like, you have to, you have to do four hours. Like he's like failing.


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[Assistant] For any period during which player does not personally study the provided material in good faith.


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[Assistant] For the avoidance of doubt, players should not receive any credit for independent study with respect to any time periods during which any materials displayed or played on an iPad.


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[Assistant] Like he can't play, he can't watch TV and like have the iPad running. He has to, forcing Kyler Murray to work harder at becoming a good quarterback.


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[Assistant] Now here's what, here's what's in, here's what's interesting. Why don't you answer the question I just asked? I'm going to, but I'm going to read number four real quick. There's that, that number three, that was a long, I know that was meaty. The gist of that, by the way, is just that


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[Assistant] You have to study, like, four hours of actually studying. Just a week though, not a day.


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[Assistant] You're like without, well, and you can't do it while you're like watching TV.


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[Assistant] Or playing, like you can't, you can't just run, you can't just run a bunch of film and, and not like, and not watch it.


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[Assistant] And uh, and then it said, in the event player breaches this addendum in any respect, at any time during the term of the contract, player shall be deemed to be in default as that term is defined in paragraph 27 of the contract. Now, I haven't seen paragraph 27, but when you default on a contract,


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[Assistant] I mean, if you, if, if, if, if defaulting on the contract is.


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[Assistant] Like as a normal default of a contract would be, it likely voids future guarantees.


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[Assistant] And could force him to pay back his signing bonus. Now I don't, again, I don't know that because I haven't seen paragraph 27, but that is the normal.


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[Assistant] Area that is the normal definition of like what default would cause so.


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[Assistant] Oh, and uh, playing season means the period beginning on the first Monday after the conclusion of training camp and ending with the last game of the club schedule, including any postseason games.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it doesn't say he has to do it by like Friday. So I guess in theory he could.


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[Assistant] They're like, I mean, and the other thing too, that's worth noting is that in this contract, and this is based on over the cap.com, which does a very good job of getting the stuff off there. So I have no reason to believe it's not true, but, um, there are, he has no guaranteed salary in 2025.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like if, if he's still on the team by, or not on options, excuse me. If he's still on the team on March 20th.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. So, uh, so like March 20th, like after the 20th, March 20th, 20 after the 2024 season. Okay. Or like, I need to look, I need to see the specifics, but basically, um, the Cardinals have a lot of outs here. They're not going to, you know, they're not going to use them unless Kyler's just like.


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[Assistant] So to answer your next question, uhm, who released this? I mean, I think very clearly it came from someone with the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] I think they probably knew that it might get out there. Yeah. But I don't think that they would be the ones who get it out there.


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[Assistant] But on the other hand, it could, this could be from Kyler's camp because...


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[Assistant] Well, the contract was going to get uploaded to the roster management system anyway, right? Like it was somebody, somebody was going to read it and find it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I guess the, I'm just looking at the way that it's framed by rap sheet. He said contracts are about give and take. One example from Kyler's $230.5 million contract. There's an addendum that requires blah blah blah. He's like, it was important to the team making a commitment at that level. Thus it was important to Merck.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was trying to, no, I was trying to see, alright, here, uhm, the three hosts of the show, Kyler Murray calls it their contracts. What would it be for?


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[Assistant] It just pushes it out there further. Uh, Kyler Murray does four hours of game studying on his own anyway.


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[Assistant] And similar to the team wanting him around for the off season as the face of the franchise, Arizona wanted a commitment in writing while going to a certain place money-wise. Thus, the clause.


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[Assistant] See, that's where it's like that follow up is definitely from Kyler's agent, Eric Burkhardt.


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[Assistant] Or like, Hatter's Camp, excuse me, I don't want to call out Burkhardt, you know, specifically, but like, you know what I mean, like it's...


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[Assistant] Definitely like, somebody in Kyler's camp is like, hey, by the way, he does this anyway. And he probably does!


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[Assistant] But I do wonder, like, I think it is interesting to note that like, like, I would guess that at some point there's been a comment, there's been con, there's been


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[Assistant] Comments or conversations that occurred where the Cardinals were like, Kyler, you're not, you're not studying enough. You know, and that's why you hear like they're worried about his maturity and does he love the game?


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[Assistant] But I'm guessing, I'm guessing that there were comments and conversations where they're like, where they're like, Kyler, you're not studying your playbook at home.


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[Assistant] You're right. And he's like, so he's like, all right. So he has his iPad and like hits play and like, if you've got a way to do it where you can just like watch TV or like, you know, goof off, like he's, you know, and so it's, in other words, like, like that's a very specific follow up.


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[Assistant] Right. It's like he doesn't get credit for it if he's not personally studying or watching them. It's personally studying. Who else would be studying it? I don't know. Do you hire a football tutor?


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[Assistant] No answer for that. I mean it's just rude. Why does it have to be geriatric? It doesn't make any damn sense. Have you seen yourself? I look, I look, I look young. People are, there's buzz about how young I look.


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[Assistant] There'd be something like no more flying off the handle at coworkers.


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy got a ringing endorsement from Jerry Jones. I want to be real clear. He wouldn't be sitting here.


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[Assistant] I just think of like the Cowboys w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I mean, I think if you're strong painted, you didn't want to disrespect like McCarthy you're saying.


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[Assistant] I think if I were Sean Payton, I would not... Sean Payton is not gonna like...


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[Assistant] If it gets leaked out that, or people are like speculating that Jerry Jones won't Sean Payton, I think Sean Payton would come out and do like a public statement that he's not interested. And then really say, I am interested.


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[Assistant] If you're on, you know, if you're, don't, don't fire him because I'm here. But if you're, you know, if you're not, if you want to, you know, if you want to fire him.


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[Assistant] Like what do we think Sean Payton wants to do? Do you think Sean Payton wants?


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[Assistant] What's he called? Shaquille Leonard. There you go. Wild. So like he, uh, Darius Leonard has always said he's always gone by Shaquille Leonard.


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[Assistant] And he had gotten advice from Randy Moss that told him to keep your ears open and keep your mouth shut as a rookie.


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[Assistant] And so when people call him Darius Leonard, he just rolled with it. But he says he's only usually only like formal in school and when he gets in trouble is he called Darius.


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[Assistant] John Carly Stanton was Mike Stanton up until he got, uhm, his first big contract I think.


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[Assistant] He, he was Mike Stan all through the minor leagues. And once he made it to the bigs, he changed it to, he went, he was like, I'm going by my real name, young Carlo. Um, I can't remember if it was, um,


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[Assistant] What the change was directly, uh, find out why he changed his name.


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[Assistant] His adolescence because his classmates and his teachers couldn't pronounce young Carla right.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I believe so. Uhm, I used to watch, I mean, like, I, I, he was, he played for the Greensboro, uh, Grasshoppers. Uhm.


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[Assistant] That's where we are. Well, I see I can't go, Bob, because that's my dad.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, cuz that's what they know when he was little. Alright, uh, you know what we gotta do, Phil?


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[Assistant] The Jesse Bates officially holding, I guess he's holding out because he's not, he hasn't, uhm, if you have a contract you have to hold in. But he hasn't signed his tag so he's holding out by not coming to Bingles training camp.


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[Assistant] Not, he was there, cause he was still on his rookie deal. Jesse Bates' rookie deal has expired. He's been given the franchise tag, but he hasn't signed it. So he technically, he is, as a,


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[Assistant] As someone without a contract, Breach and I talked about this a little bit, but he, he is, um.


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[Assistant] He can get away with not showing up and he can't be fine because he doesn't have a contract.


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[Assistant] Do you think he, uhm, what's your level of concern that he might try and pull away beyond Bell? I think it's pretty low, but.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think it's, it's, um, you don't want to miss.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, you don't want to get hurt in a preseason game. You don't want to get hurt in training camp. Uhm, but if you sign this deal, you're going to, you're going to get the guaranteed money. You sign the, I think you just hold out and you sign the tender late.


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[Assistant] I think that the uhm, Jesse, that, that it hurt, it hurt the 12.91 million dollars. Yea, I got something right. Uhm, I think that the Minka Fitzpatrick and Jamal Adams deals make it extremely difficult.


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[Assistant] for Jesse Bates to sign a deal because he is in that same draft class as those guys. And you could make the argument that you would prefer Jesse Bates over those guys. No, I don't, I mean, I'm not, he's in the same company as them.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think that in a perfect world, the Bengals would love to pay him in the Buddha, Justin Simmons range and Harrison Smith deals a little.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but like Harrison Smith's probably getting cut after this season.


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[Assistant] Maybe two years for Harrison Smith. So if you cut him in, uhm, after 2022, oh wait, he has a, uh, wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, anyway, like I, I think here I would not, like I, if I were do, if I were dealing with this, I would not be factoring in Harrison Smith's deal. Like I would sort of be ignoring that and looking at


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[Assistant] Well, now the other thing too is like, Breach and I, and like Harrison Smith had 14-


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[Assistant] I think you could get Jesse Bates to sign a deal where you get him the highest average guaranteed deal by any safety ever.


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[Assistant] You just give him a bunch of, give him more guaranteed money.


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[Assistant] And the bingles typically, I think they have a weird contract structure anyway.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a tough situation, I think. Uhm, okay, what else, what else do we have to worry about with the bingles?


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[Assistant] Dax, it's like they have Dax and Hill in the wings. Maybe, um, you know, Hill could allow them to. That's why they drive to Dax Hill.


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[Assistant] And then the third thing was, how will Zach Taylor up the ante? Is this question.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And look, I mean, I think they knew, they know that their secondary needs to be better. Um, and they, like you said, they, they, they,


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[Assistant] Went in on the secondary and, and you have to think that like Eli Apple got torched in that Super Bowl. So maybe Cam Taylor Britt takes over for him. Um, you know, you still have, uh, I mean, like this is a good, good, good, good looking defense. Lou Anna Rumo could get a head coaching look.


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[Assistant] If that defense plays well, uh, in 2022. Yeah, he can be the Cowboys coach next year for all we know. Yeah, sure. Why not? Uhm, the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Biggest question that Dajani listed for Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Yes. It was not Lamar Jackson. Dang it. Uh, wide receivers, wide receivers. That is correct.


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[Assistant] So they traded Marquis Brown, the former first jump back to Arizona.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's fine. It's the most ridiculous thing. We spent 15 minutes talking about it and with good reason.


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[Assistant] And they don't, they're not exactly loaded at the position, although I think when you, you know, when you look at pass catchers, first of all, this is the most run heavy team in football over the last two years by like an insanely wide margin. Uh, secondly,


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[Assistant] I saw, it's, it's like, they're, it's like, they have like 2000 carries more than anybody else.


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[Assistant] But so, you know, it's like, in fact, you have to factor that in. You have a quarterback who runs a lot. Uhm, you have Mark Andrews as like your number one receiver, your number one pass catcher, like that.


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[Assistant] Yep, J.K. Dobbins is a little decent pass catcher. Uhm, and then you have the running game part of it. Yeah, but you also have your Rashad Bateman is like your number two. Like, I don't think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're going to run into the offense and you don't, you know, you don't have a, I mean, if I have catch rate of 67.6%


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[Assistant] Only at 68 targets. He just didn't have, uhm, he didn't have any, he didn't get a ton of, he didn't play a ton. You know? Okay.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, I think the concern over the Ravens wide receivers, as long as Andrews is healthy and Bateman takes a small step forward is vastly overblown. Now don't get it wrong. Like if you're in a situation where Andrews goes down and you've got Nick Boyle,


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[Assistant] Uh, offensive line was listed, uh, basically like how, how will the starters.


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[Assistant] Uhm, currently on the PUP and there's some concern I think about him getting back in time at a severe leg injury. I believe, uh, Tyler Linderbaum, rookie, first round pick, rookie, uh, along with Kyle Hamilton, one of the two first round picks for the Ravens. You know, is he going to start at center coming out? And I mean, I would think so, right.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, it's, but you know, with, with a rookie and with a, you know, your stud left tackle coming off an injury, you know.


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, they already signed, anyway, yeaah. I mean, I think that is at least a fair concern. Then of course the final one was Lamar Jackson, which...


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[Assistant] Obviously a huge concern for the Ravens.


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[Assistant] I don't think that this is like a, um, contentious...


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[Assistant] I mean, if I'm, if I'm, if Kyler Murray can get $46.1 million per year. It's a layup. Absolute layup.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like if, and you know, it's a hundred, you know, he, we've got a hundred thousand dollars more per year than, than Deshawn. I mean, that's what he wanted.


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[Assistant] And yeah, he didn't get to where Aaron Rodgers was, but you know, two time MVP, different, you know, different circumstances. Um, I think that Lamar should easily get to 46.5.


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[Assistant] And I actually think Lamar might be interested, might be willing to do something like, you know, Mahomes' deal, $45 million, obviously huge, but you know, we're like, well, no one will go by Mahomes.


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[Assistant] It's like nah, everybody can keep going up. Uhm, I think he might take less guaranteed money.


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[Assistant] I think he gets somewhere between Kyler and Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] Any chance that he gets less than Kyler? Any chance? Hell no. Alright. You can't take less than Kyler. No, you can't. No.


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[Assistant] I think there's a better chance of him playing out two franchise tags and getting less than- I think actually I agree with that and I think that the chance of that is like 1%.


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[Assistant] Now, I mean, there is like a, uh, cause the problem is if you go less than Kyler, you can't even get like a fully guaranteed deal that, you know, like, cause you got, we got lots in there too, 46 and fully guaranteed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like, you're like, you have to study no video games when you're trying to study, when you're trying to prepare for your job to win football games.


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[Assistant] Brian Brodeus, formerly of the Cowboys, tweeted, uhm, he quote tweeted somebody who, uhm,


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[Assistant] Somebody was like this Dallas Cowboys pressure is not convincing at all. They sound, they both sound like this maybe the last year with each other, but trying to be all buddy, buddy public. And Brian Brody is quote tweeted and said, mm took a job that he didn't know what it entailed. He knows now how do you not know?


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[Assistant] I know, it's like, how could you not know what Jerry, what playing with Jerry, what like coaching, um, yeah.


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[Assistant] Mike's reactions and somebody who's like Mike's reactions, let us know that Dallas Cowboys are that much bigger than the Packers. Anyway, whatever. Um, moving along the Browns. The Browns.


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[Assistant] Cleveland Browns, uh, Dojani's number one question. These aren't all questions, but he's like, should they add a defensive tackle?


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Browns have two star, yea, the Browns, defensive tackle is a big question for the Browns. Like, are they going to be able to stop the run at all?


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[Assistant] Yeah, or just anyone playing Cleveland. Uh, their next, uh, the next question is wide receiver.


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[Assistant] David, I think they really like David Bell as a potential slot option. He's a sneaky guy in fantasy to take a look at, uh, depending on how he does in the preseason.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was a problem last year. Like we, I mean,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they certainly need to, um, look at maybe some veterans, uh, uh, designing throughout Cole Beasley and Emmanuel Sanders.


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[Assistant] That's right, they both played together last year. Yeah. Uhm, I wouldn't hate either one of those guys going to Cleveland. It's also like, are you... Is Cole better than Jaquem Grant?


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[Assistant] Like if something happens to you and Mark Cooper, all of a sudden it becomes a real problem, I think.


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[Assistant] The defensive tackle is definitely a much, much bigger concern for me than... The quarterback's the biggest concern.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, I mean, like what is Deshaun Watson going to do? I mean, they have, so like if Deshaun Watson suspended for the year, it's Percent, Josh Dobbs and Josh Rosen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jacoby, Josh and Josh. I mean, you would be surprised if.


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[Assistant] I mean again, depending on what happens with Dashawn and like how it looks.


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[Assistant] Like adding, yeah, adding a quarterback. To me, the defensive tackle thing is like.


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[Assistant] I mean, the biggest deal is the Deshaun Watson suspension, but that's sort of out of your hands. Like getting defensive tackle help to me is the bigger problem than wide receiver. Obviously quarterback is a huge deal unless you, until, until, you know, when you find out what the deal with Watson is. Uh, the Steelers, number one question, of course, who's going to be the starter? Is it Mitchell Trubisky? Is it the rookie Kenny Pickett?


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[Assistant] The wide receiver rotation is the number two issue for Dajani that he listed on here. What are your thoughts on Pittsburgh's wide receiver setup?


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[Assistant] It's interesting, he's like, I've got a lot of Chase Claypool in uh, like uh, best ball. Cause he's just, he's just a cheap, he's a, you can get him later than, like people are just not interested in the Pittsburgh wide receivers really.


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[Assistant] Mitchell Trevesky, everyone. Alright. Anything else?


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[Assistant] We blitzed through those, sorry. The Kyler, I'd forgotten just like how the Kyler, oh wow, uhm, Chris Carson is retiring from the NFL. Alright, glad speed.


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[Assistant] A rapid report of NFL media reports. I, it, that uhm,


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[Assistant] That neck injury had really been kind of lingering as like something that like felt like it was going to be tough for him to come back from.


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[Assistant] When I was gonna say Shanahan, um, Kyle Shanahan said we've moved on to Trey. This is Trey's team.


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[Assistant] Uh, mistake that this is indeed Trey Lance's team. It's not a Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] It's a smart thing to do. You gotta get out in front of it. You don't want to like so discord with your young.


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[Assistant] QB. Alright, that will do it for us. For Wilson, I'm Brinson. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. See you guys tomorrow.


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[Assistant] For instance, this is the, at least the 12th week in a row where you botch the dates. But you know what? You have to remember the date you're recording and the date where it's going, uh, for the people listening on audio. It's confusing. Nobody wants to remember two days. It's tough.


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[Assistant] And you've been taking all those grand piano lessons, I don't know how you remember anything.


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[Assistant] That's what someone would say who's sucking up to you. That is literally the least believable house I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Also, if there was- You don't own a piano. It's too clean. You have a kid. It's just none of his- First of all, I grew up with a piano.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then I gave him the picture and then there was no talk. There was just, oh boy, we're getting a little too close to this. And then five months later, the holdup is Brinton not sending money. Now you've sent the money. We've got a whole collection of money and this tattoo is going to happen.


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[Assistant] Finally, everyone is vindicated. Wilson is gonna have some sort of bangle tattoo. Maybe he'll get the white bangle tiger. You know, who knows? He can pick anything now. Uh, but yeaah, I think it's gonna happen when we're in Nashville, right? We're all meeting up in Nashville in August.


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[Assistant] Well, I was gonna say the other part of this is that no one loves to procrastinate more than me and you, so it's not too difficult to muddy things when you and I are involved.


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[Assistant] And you can point to the Ryan Finley game as kickstarting the whole entire thing. I mean, that was where everything turned around and thanks, Wilson.


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[Assistant] Thanks Ryan Finley. Thanks everyone named Ryan. If your name is Ryan, thank you.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, Burrow got injured in November, and Finn's missing was in December.


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[Assistant] Right, but I think Brandon Allen was the backup quarterback that year, and he was also injured, and that's why it was, Finley was the third string... They kept playing out Brandon Allen, he just kept playing terrible, finally they were like, alright, go Finley. Finley was the third string quarterback, which is why this was so improbable.


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[Assistant] And now here we are. I can't believe it's gonna happen. Are we live streaming? Man, this is gonna be crazy. This is gonna be like the highest rated Pixix podcast ever whenever that tattoo happens.


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[Assistant] You can't stick a needle in an employee live on air, is that what you're saying?


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[Assistant] And I just watched the, the video of, we're not supposed to, uh, harass employees outside of work. Forcing Wilson into a tattoo, does that qualify?


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[Assistant] No, it's one of those videos where, you know, you probably don't watch the required videos. As an employee of Paramount, we have to watch videos every few months.


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[Assistant] You get my email work and I'll watch the videos, alright? Right, you have this plausible deniability built in if they accuse you. Like, I don't get the email, so what do you want me to do? What do you want me to do? I did go to IT and say hey.


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[Assistant] Darren Waller, who literally is negotiating contract right now and should ask for double whatever Njoko just, Njoku just got.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Unjoku's agent for getting such an amazing contract.


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[Assistant] Their Waller is the big one. That's the big one right now. That's the guy who's gonna get, based on what Njoku just got, Waller should get something huge.


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[Assistant] Or more reliant because everyone triple teams adams.


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[Assistant] You know, this has been, it's been so acrimonious. It's the safety for the Bengals, by the way, in case you didn't know. Broke out a thesaurus before the show. Acrimonious is pretty good. Thank you. I'm gonna try and do that. You know, Wilson has the...


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[Assistant] Yes, you could absolutely say that. You know, here's the problem is that, look, he wants to be paid like one of the NFL's highest paid safeties, which makes sense because he's been one of the NFL's best safeties. The Bengals don't want to give him that. And if you're Cincinnati, you're staring at it thinking, look,


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[Assistant] 12.9 million dollars. We'll just say 13 because that's a round number.


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[Assistant] If we tag him this year and then if you tag him next year, that's a 20% increase. That's 2.6 million. So basically if the Bengals were to tag him twice, it would cost them two years, $28.6 million, which is an average of $14.3 million a year. So the Bengals don't have a lot of incentive to go


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[Assistant] Uh, very much over that number and the problem with that is that you have guys like, uh, Mika Fitzpatrick who just got a contract with the Steelers that's gonna pay him an average of $18.4 million a year. Well, these two, uh,


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[Assistant] Franchise tags I just mentioned where the bangles would pay Jesse Bates 14.3 and 18.4. So there is a huge gap in there, uh, and obviously the bangles are closer to the 14.3 million end of the gap.


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[Assistant] Get paid around $18 million per year and you know, also it's tough working and negotiating contracts with the bangles because they front load the deal. You're going to get your guaranteed money upfront and usually nothing is guaranteed after year one, which means a huge signing bonus that gets pro rated.


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[Assistant] And then plus whatever your first year salary is, and uh, that works for,


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[Assistant] No, it absolutely felt like that. It's him saying, it felt like it was him to the bangles.


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[Assistant] He's not gonna pull Le'Veon Bell, just because I think that is the nightmare scenario and every player sees that, hey look, Le'Veon Bell set out the season because of his franchise tag and that destroyed his career. He was never the same player, now he's out of the NFL and boxing Adrian Peterson.


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[Assistant] And so I don't think we will ever see a franchise tag player, uh, who is going to pull a webcam bell. So I do think baits will play, but he will wait. He might not even sign the tag till.


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[Assistant] If he does not sign, I don't think he will be at training camp when it starts.


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[Assistant] Right, and I think I agree with that argument and I do think the best way to fix that is exactly what you said where


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[Assistant] Alright man, we're not gonna give you 18-40 year because literally Minkifitspatrick is in his own stratosphere as far as pay goes. We're not gonna get you there. I like your thought process. Put him third. Because even Joao Adams is in his own stratosphere because there's only two players that make over 17 million per year.


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[Assistant] Put him above Harrison Smith, but give him the guaranteed money. Give him 37 million guaranteed cause Fitzpatrick got 36.