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[Assistant] The special teams coach was losing his mind because they blew an assignment, um, on the edge. I think it was maybe Nelson Aguilar. Maybe, I apologize if it wasn't. Anyway, they had a punt blocked. Um, so they had a, it was a comedy of errors and they stayed the week out there. I don't remember where they played last week, but they didn't come home. So they went from Arizona, uh, presumably to Vegas. They were out there all week and then.


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[Assistant] I had that game to win despite the mistakes early on, and I would imagine that Ramon Dre and or Jacoby thought they were down.


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[Assistant] And maybe what happened was when Romandre lateral the ball, which I didn't necessarily hate because he had a pretty big run and Romandre lateral was fine.


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[Assistant] And then Jacoby got the ball and maybe just clicked on him like, okay, we got to keep this thing going. And he, he just totally lost sense of where he was. And then Mack Jones has said, well, I'm not going to try to tackle challenges.


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[Assistant] If you look at the actual play sheet, and there's actually a play where Stevenson's supposed to lateral the ball to Kobe, then he can blame Matt Patricia. But I mean, at some point, and look, it is Belchuk's Fox, he's the coach, but the same, the same like Pee-wee football. You think he would know nothing.


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[Assistant] Breach is gonna give some bleeding heart explanation as to why this touchdown should go ahead, Breach.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, Breach, using that logic, that's like...


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[Assistant] My little ball head coming up to your front porch and your little ring camera can't see my face exactly, but you see my ball head shimmering in the light. I'm just wailing eggs at your front door. I was like, well, Breechie, you don't know it's me. You can't see my face exactly. I mean, it looks like me, but do you want to say it's me and have to face repercussions of making fun of brown ball people?


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[Assistant] If you zoom in, if you zoom in, what happens here, his toe is an optical illusion. You don't know. There's no definitive evidence. Listen, the toe in his ear, Jordan cleats are black and it looks like it blends into the edge of the end zone. They're actually, it's actually on the white. If you look at it on the clip, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Our buddy Joe Musso's in the chat and he, he's right. He goes, I elect willful ignorance because, uh, it led to one of the dumbest ways to lose a football game of all time. And it was the pass. Fair enough.


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[Assistant] The Patriots loss or what Jeff Saturday's done the last two weeks? Like what's more debilitating?


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[Assistant] Well, Breach, let me ask you this. Where are the Bengals going to finish in this list? How high can they get? Brenton says one.


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[Assistant] Made him snort. What do you think? Breach, unmute your microphone numbnuts.


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[Assistant] Whoever wins that division, that's only one team.


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[Assistant] It feels like it's chalk as we sit here. Breach, do you want to make a case for anyone that's on the outside?


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[Assistant] So Breeze, did you give us a 6 and 7 seed or not for AFC?


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[Assistant] They're playing terribly, and Geno's lost his luster.


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[Assistant] Alright, fair enough. Uh, I would go with Detroit just cause they're my sentimental favorite to get in and then...


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[Assistant] I don't know if the, I don't want to trust this giant scene based on the way they played just on Saturday, Sunday night because they've sort of been iffy. Are they better than Washington or is Washington better than New York?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm sort of leaning that way. I just, I don't trust, I like Taylor Heinecke in terms of entertaining football, but I wouldn't trust him to like play consistently and not make mistakes. He had a couple mistakes on Sunday night that cost him. Breach.


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[Assistant] Let's get to the AFC and MC Championship. Billy needs to start a fashion podcast.


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[Assistant] And our Pick 6 podcast guys are out in Glendale, Arizona, getting you ready for Super Bowl 57.


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[Assistant] Time for your news in 90. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell gave his State of the League address today from the site of Super Bowl 57. One issue that has plagued the league this year, concussions. There were 149 this season, a stark rise of 18% from the year before. Goodell laid out the NFL's plan to make the game safer.


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[Assistant] Elsewhere, USA Basketball opened its training camp earlier this week in Minnesota. Brittany Greiner is not in attendance, though she is in contact with her teammates, including longtime friend Diana Taurasi. Greiner was released from custody back in December after facing drug charges in Russia.


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[Assistant] She hinted that she wants to play in the WNBA this season, but she hasn't made any comments on her plans for the Paris Olympics in 2024.


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[Assistant] And in soccer NWSL regular season, that schedule is out opening day, just 44 days away with kickoff set her March 25th. Dabena will make her debut with Kansas City current in the first game of the season, taking on her former club, the North Carolina Courage.


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[Assistant] Well first I will just say I'm emotionally spent. I don't even know how much I'll be able to participate in this podcast because there is nothing left.


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[Assistant] Inside of me as I let it all out during this game, I think I almost woke my toddler who was sleeping at least three times, which is a records. I'm usually pretty quiet.


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[Assistant] Uh, and my confidence, you guys asked me at halftime and I said it was basically a coin flip. I felt it was going to be tight. And then it was, I, I was 52% bangles, 48% Ravens. So by the time Baltimore got down there in a 17-17 game, uh, I'm thinking, man, Baltimore scores here. I'm just going to.


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[Assistant] Tear off my clothes and go to bed and give up because I'm done. I mean, that's what it felt like because the Bengals could not move the ball after the first quarter. Uh, yeah. So that is what my percentage was like done. That's it. I was going to go to bed.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I don't not think that. Look, I said during the week and I wrote in my picks that I thought this was going to be a close game. My predicted final score was 27-17. You don't want to be playing a divisional opponent in the playoffs because they know you well.


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[Assistant] And there's also the mystery of element. The Bengals were just the second team in NFL history that played a team three times in the playoffs and that team started a different quarterback in all three games.


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[Assistant] Losing Jonah Williams, that's obviously the big hit. Losing your starting left tackle, Jackson Carmen actually acquitted himself pretty well in the second half, but that would be my biggest concern that going forward, uh, whether it's Buffalo or if Cincinnati makes it to the AFC title game, uh, Kansas City or Jacksonville, the offensive line gets beat up because you now have three backups in there.


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[Assistant] Uh, again, I am okay with it. Look, Joe burrow only threw for under 225 yards six times this year and three of them were against the Ravens. So it just, the Ravens after getting torched by him last year, you know, he had that 520 yard game or whatever it was. And I wouldn't stop talking about it. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah, I love talking about it, but so they said, alright, we're not gonna let that happen this year, we're just gonna let our pass rush get after him, kinda drop everyone back and dare him to take these short routes, uh, which he can't do if he's being rushed.


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[Assistant] And that's what they did. I mean, the Ravens just had an excellent defensive game plan all three times. They faced the Bengals and so all it was is, hey look, if he can throw for...


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[Assistant] Whatever, 200 and whatever odd yards, uh, 209.


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[Assistant] And win, then more of the power to the bangles that you could have your quarterback not have a great night. Uh, he was sharp, but, and still win. So that's really for me what it comes down to is that Burrow doesn't have to play perfect and this team can still win in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, more nervous about this game, but last year was a different feeling because you never, when you have, when your team doesn't want to play a game in 31 years, you never go into the game thinking they are going to win. So, eh,


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[Assistant] But I was more nervous about this one. I just felt like, especially after watching the Bills Dolphins game, which we'll talk about later, I was like, my God, it's just, this is, this is going to be the Bangles Ravens game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. I wasn't nervous about the Titans game. I just felt like they were playing with house money. They got the big thing out of their way. No one thought they were Super Bowl contender last year. They got the playoff win out of the way. That's all any Bengals fan wanted at that point last season. So it was like, all right, if they can go into Nashville and win, awesome. But if they don't,


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[Assistant] It's still considered a successful season. If they lose this wild card game against the Ravens, it is not considered a successful season.


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[Assistant] Oh, well the one thing I will say is that look, you look at last year's playoff run and


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[Assistant] Joe burrow in the offense, they made key plays when they had to, for instance, getting them in the field goal range.


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[Assistant] Uh, against the Titans to set up the game when you feel by McPherson and the same thing against the Chiefs when they had to come up with big plays they did for the most part, the defense carried them through the playoffs and that is exactly what happened in this Sunday night game where the Bengals came out on fire. You go up nine nothing and then.


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[Assistant] Just almost nothing. The offense just goes in a coma for the rest of the game and then you don't see anything else until...


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[Assistant] Really, I mean, this fumble return touchdown is one of the craziest plays in the history


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[Assistant] Oh, well you're gonna love this then. Uh, here's what John Harbaugh said after the aim, cause that was obviously one of the first questions he got. Uh, Harbaugh said, Tyler Huntley was supposed to go low on the Decisive Sneak, and then he said, quote, we just didn't execute right there. Unquote.


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[Assistant] That, and, and this is a serious question. Do you think Tyler Huntley watched that Jacksonville game on Saturday night, saw Trevor Lawrence go over the top and he thought, oh, I bet I can do that because you don't see quarterbacks do that that often. And for him, if his, if the


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[Assistant] Well right, and if the play call was for him to go low, then why else would he go high unless he saw a quarter match pull it off?


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[Assistant] John Harbaugh, if you're a Ravens fan, you're probably not thrilled with the way he handled, uh, that final few minutes.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is a playoff game we're talking about. He was acting, he was playing like he had zero timeouts. He said 35 seconds on fire, minimum.


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[Assistant] Been moving faster or called a timeout because they had two timeouts at that point and it was like, I was thinking in my head, he's playing this like he doesn't want the Bengals to get the ball back, which is fine. If you're down by a field goal, you can play that way because you have the safety net of we can kick the field goal if we don't get the touchdown. He was going for two.


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[Assistant] It's like he lost his awareness of where the ball was because it...


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[Assistant] So it becomes, how far did you expect them to advance? Uh, again, at home, you're a favorite. That's not a great look to lose that kind of game. But when you look back on this season and you look at where the Vikings were when


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[Assistant] He won a division title after this team had not made the playoffs for two straight seasons. They won 13 games like you said. So I do think this is one of those where you are disappointed right now. But when you look back on the season, uh, on March 1st, you're going to be like, you know what? That was a good season and I'm optimistic about the future and maybe we can win some games. But the one thing I will say is that we have dumped on Kirk Cousins a lot.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, you're winning the close games, which is what the Vikings' biggest issue was. So, you know, that's- It's one issue at a time, Ryan. Okay. Fix one thing at a time.


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[Assistant] And it's crazy because every time they get to the playoffs, I mean, obviously not 2016, but the time before that 2011, no one thought they're going to do anything.


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[Assistant] Win the Superbowl, 2007, no one thought they were going to do anything. Win the Superbowl. So it is weird, and you know, to your point, it's like, what Brian Dable's done with Daniel Jones has been nothing short of miraculous, and I think-


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[Assistant] That's it. You can go from good to bad. And I mean, this was just, he was so accurate and he looked good and he was composed and it was just crazy seeing Daniel Jones play like this. This might have been his best game of the season, but then the other part of his career, the Vikings defense though, this was not the laugh ride.


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[Assistant] Well, since we're talking about real quick, uh, you know, O'Connell and who calls plays and whatnot. And also since Wilson roasted the Chargers for their, uh, horrible fourth and one play call, uh, there was playing this game by the Vikings on


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[Assistant] Run a trick play that involved a pass to Kurt Cousins thrown by Justin Jefferson? What was your thoughts on that, Wilson?


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[Assistant] Got it? Like, ooh, in practice? This always tricks our defense. There's no one out there in practice. And he gets there, he looks, he's like, holy God, there's two defenders. What do I do? I'm done.


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[Assistant] That's cause I plant trees. And that tree, someone on Twitter cheered that the bangles won cause the tree stays up for another week.


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[Assistant] And I say every week, yes, I am concerned about Josh Allen and I pointed out a couple of times that this win streak they're on that's gone since November has been carried by, uh, their run game offensively and their defense and Josh Allen has played


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[Assistant] Okay, football. I mean, he made some spectacular throws, but he's also made so many just mind numbingly horrible turnovers that you just kind of shake your head thinking every week it happens. You think it's not going to happen next week. There's no way it can happen next week. He just, you know, it was the elbow injury. It was whatever he'll move past this and he has not moved past this. We're like 10 weeks into this.


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[Assistant] And he keeps making these little mistakes and it's really, yes. So yes, I'm minorly concerned about Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] The first one was just he threw it up and the defender just caught it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know if it's 100%, there's just throws every week that it just...


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[Assistant] He makes awesome throws. He started the game on the first possession with an awesome throw, but then there are also others where like, is this the same guy? And it just...


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you know, people will get the score, but this, this was on Josh Allen. I mean, the reason Dolphin stayed in this game was because


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[Assistant] Josh Allen was turning the ball over. I mean the fumble return for a touchdown that Miami got was a game changer that absolutely kept them.


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[Assistant] The unprecedented numbers here and that really shows you how much those turnovers did keep the dolphins in the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, as much as we, but it's still, you know, Josh Allen might come out and throw for 450 yards against the Bales next week. So I don't think it's like a huge concern, but obviously you don't want him throwing these interceptions anymore.


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[Assistant] Looking like 2017 Josh on with Lucy Goosey ball and losing those fumbles that you can't afford to lose. But man, the craziest thing about this game, how many delay a game penalties.


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[Assistant] And the clock got reset at like the 15 second mark ish right around there. So that means they got 25 seconds. Then they got 25 more seconds. So that means they got about 50 seconds and usually only get 40 seconds. They got 10 extra seconds and they still got called for delay game.


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[Assistant] No, I think when you were gone, I mentioned it that the dolphins are only in this game because of the turnovers because two interceptions and the fumble are turnovers too.


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[Assistant] Right, and the Dolphins got, uh, 17 points off turnovers.


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[Assistant] And they only had 231 yards of offense, which I, so what I mentioned when you were gone was that basically they scored the second most points in playoff history for a team that didn't even have 235 yards of offense. So it was like,


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[Assistant] Their points were kind of fluky. I don't think you can really say, hey, the Dolphins are, hey, the Bills overlooked them or anything. And it's the same thing I kind of said about the Bengals Ravens where it's a division rival. They know you well. All you have to do is survive in advance when you're facing a division rival. Just get out of there and worry about the next game. And the problems probably weren't as bad as they might seem because it's a team


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[Assistant] Uh, and I will close that argument by saying the Dolphins were called for the second most delay of game penalties in the NFL. I assume the Broncos were first.


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[Assistant] The Broncos were not first surprisingly. Number one was Ol' Kurt Cousins and the Vikings.


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[Assistant] It's close. I mean, it sounds about right. Touchdown. Eight and a half.


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[Assistant] Oh, you know the NFL. That's why they waited until like 10 minutes after the game to release this schedule because they were praying that the Ravens win the AFC match. Right, right. Uh, but they're probably thrilled now.


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[Assistant] I will say real quick, this is a rematch from a game earlier this season. The Chiefs won 27 to 17. Jags did miss two field goals in that game, but the Chiefs also turned the ball over three times. So, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's gonna be, it's gonna take some thought because they're down three offensive line starters. That's a problem, Shobaro, don't care. It is a problem.


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[Assistant] These Sunday games could get some crazy ratings because you have the cancelled Monday night game and then you have the next game.


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[Assistant] So the crazy thing, the crazy thing is that like, I feel like the 49ers would steamroll Tampa Bay. I feel like Dallas could give them a good game and we saw them play in last year's playoffs, but I think that


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay could beat Dallas, so it's like, if I'm cheering for a good game next week, then I probably want the Cowboys to win.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's the funny thing is I believe that's the only team that made the playoffs that didn't get picked, which tells you that like, the NFL season, as crazy as it was, kind of fell, uh, how we thought, besides the Giants.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we, for instance, you owe the NFL apology because you ripped them for... The A-minus is a bad grade? When you have two A-pluses.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, but he, he, um, uh, who's, who's the, uh, Brian Callahan's OC, but I think like coordinate on it, but my larger story, my larger story.


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[Assistant] Brian, we gotta get you your own soccer podcast where you can only talk about Syracuse, uh, but you know what? Kyler Murray did not go to Syracuse.


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[Assistant] And uh, he went right up to the gun with, is he gonna be able to play in week one?


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[Assistant] And yeaah, so now we're into December and it's very possible, uh, I would be, if it's a 20 ACL,


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[Assistant] And you play the style of football that Kyler Murray plays, it is going to be difficult, if not impossible to be out there in week one. Well, here's the thing.


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[Assistant] Odell Beckham tore it in mid February. He has not come back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, when these two originally got paired together was like, oh my God, they're going to light up the scoreboard. The Cardinals are going to be unbeatable, but it just feels like.


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[Assistant] And Kyler Murray doesn't like Cliff Kingsbury's system. I mean, uh, and that's a problem. So I think that if you're the Cardinals, you have to give some serious thought to, alright, if we get Cliff Kingsbury out of the picture, we'll bring in a coach. They can sit down with Kyler this off season and kind of just


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[Assistant] Absolutely, but I do think we would all agree that look, Steve Kahn probably isn't going anywhere because of his relationship with Bill Bidwell. We've talked about that before, that he comes across as the most probably


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[Assistant] Fireball person, but the least likely person to get fired. I mean, the guy drafted Josh Rosen, uh, struck out there has already lost multiple head coaching. Yeah, trade up for Josh Rosen. He's got a lot of strikes on his resume, but the Cardinals have shown no inclination to get rid of him. So they're just going to find another scapegoat right now. That feels like it's Cliff Kingberry.


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[Assistant] But also, you would take that job because you have zero expectations in season one when you're not gonna have your starting quarterback till week three or week four theoretically. So that makes things easier on you in year one and then you push everything off to year two. So I think it would be an enticing job.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was on the train that the Cardinals wouldn't fire anyone just because of a money issue because they're not


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[Assistant] Uh, so, I mean, I've been on the fence about this all season, but I do think if anyone is gonna be the odd man out, it's gonna be Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] I mean, he stuck with, uh, Zach Taylor after a pretty horrid start to his career.


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[Assistant] Phil Belichick last week, his comments about what was going on with the offense, that was telling, and he basically said that like, eh, we're too late in the season to make changes. It is, we're going to ride with what we have. There's no reason to go make a wholesale change with five weeks left and start over from scratch. And that's his way of saying, look,


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[Assistant] We are where we are, we're in the playoff race, we're gonna finish this out, even if Mac Jones ends up strangling Matt Patricia, uh, because it, that might happen because those two, they seem to just go at it every single game. We've seen all of, uh,


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[Assistant] Just Mac Jones yelling at someone on the sideline. It seems like every week for the past few weeks.


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[Assistant] Watching it is infuriating. I can't imagine being the quarterback who's in charge of running it. I mean, every other play is a screen. They get stuff. They don't care. They call more screens. They got saved by a bunch of rookies tonight and Mack Jones has got to be just sitting back there like, let me uncork a few cause I'm a corkle.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, and then when he did, he hit Hunter Henry a couple times, uh, had a couple nice throws to Kendrick Bourne, Nelson Aguilar. So just, I just feel like Mac Jones wants to be unleashed and Matt Patricia refuses to do that.


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[Assistant] You guys think Cliff Kingsbury walked off the field today and like shook hands with Belichick cause like, Hey man, if you need an offensive coordinator next season, call me. Just call me.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, just a fun fact, a fun fact real quick to go along with what Ryan just said since he brought it up. Uh, the Dolphins since 2017 are 0-7 when the kickoff temperature is under 40 degrees and they have lost those seven games by an average of 18.7 points.


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[Assistant] Yes. I actually feel better about the chances of being the Dolphins than the Raiders.


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[Assistant] And 0 and 4 is their worst case scenario. So I, like, I don't think that's happening.


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[Assistant] Well, hold on, Wilson, all you need is for the bills to have the number one seed locked up in week 18.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that's it. Chargers, Jets, I mean.


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[Assistant] I was just gonna say the chargers are so iffy, that's the one thing that, like,


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[Assistant] I would never bet any money on them right now to make the playoffs, even though I feel the best about their chances. That's how I feel about the Chargers.


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[Assistant] If you bench Zach Wilson, I think you gotta make it flaco. You only bench him because you have no faith in him and you can't send him out there and make him your backup when the rest of the team knows you don't have any faith in him. And we saw


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[Assistant] And I will say, we crush Cliff Kingsbury a lot, but like, it's hard to put a loss like this on him where, uh, Hollywood Brown dropped


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[Assistant] Uh, this, this was the first three possessions of the second half, and then Colt McCoy threw an interception, and after that...


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[Assistant] I'm not making excuses for Cliff, I'm just saying that it's tough when you look at this score and you think, God, you know, Cliff Kingsbury must have been horrible, but I did not think he had a bad coaching game.


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[Assistant] Which Colt McCoy threw a pass that got tipped that would have been throw it three inches higher.


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[Assistant] One more fun fact, the Patriots are the only team currently in a playoff seed, uh, that have not beaten any other playoff teams this year. Seems a little fraudulent.


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[Assistant] I think the Chargers. If I had to bet money on it right now, I bet the Chargers. But maybe the Dolphins drop out on its page with Chargers.


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[Assistant] They're not going to win the Super Bowl without Jalen Hurts and Lane Johnson. This is not 2017 where they were able to overcome a lot of injuries, including the, you know, MVP front rudder starting quarterback. Gardner Minshew will not win a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I said the same thing about Nick Foles and I was completely wrong. I'm not going to be wrong this time around. Gardner Minshew will take them nowhere.


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[Assistant] I would rather have Jalen be healthy and the Eagles play an extra playoff game as crazy as that sounds. Um, you know, 14 point favorites first, the Giants makes me feel pretty, pretty comfortable, but they're not going anywhere without a Divo. Throw those or.


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[Assistant] I have the utmost confidence with a healthy Jalen Hurts and a somewhat healthy Lane Johnson and some defensive players back.


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[Assistant] I would, I would give up like two third round picks just to get them off the team.


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[Assistant] Wilson said it earlier, the injury bug caught up to them. It's a shame the point in the year that it happened because I thought this team was, was rolling.


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[Assistant] No, the exact same time. The only thing you, you knew Carson Wentz with the ACL and MCL was, was out for the year. Yeah, that's true. That's true. You know, should be back in, in week 18 and, and you know, that restores confidence. Gardner Minshew is, is not it. And I still believe the Eagles are going to win a ring this year. I just don't think.


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[Assistant] Gardner Minshew should be part of that ceremony because he is worthless.


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[Assistant] It is, it is not crazy as much as I would like to say in my return that you're crazy. It's not crazy at all.


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[Assistant] I think the interesting thing now, uhm, talking to some Giants fans, you know, they're still bitter about that stupid game two years ago in week 17. Get over it. You couldn't make the playoffs with


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[Assistant] Ridiculous. I don't go into week 18 with a ton of concern that the Eagles are going to drop that one, but we'll see how the week shakes out. I just think it's ridiculous. Giants fans are still holding on to that one. Obviously after Doug's comments this week, that kind of riled them back up again. What did Doug say about that game?


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[Assistant] You still. I don't look like anymore. I've aged. I appreciate your honesty.


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[Assistant] But they're both great coaches. Eh, good coach. And I think Vrabel is incredibly underrated. And I'm actually not even sure why. Maybe because he, he looks like a linebacker still. And you know, sometimes you don't take linebackers seriously. I have no idea, but he does a great job.


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[Assistant] Along with Derrick Henry, who, uh, by the way, uh, he's averaging 131 rushing yards per game from November, November onward, the last three seasons. Uh, so he's right on pace. They only had 87 tonight, but I feel like if those two things come together, even with some of the injuries.


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[Assistant] Obviously as Princeton noted, they're rolling in the division, but they might be sort of like last year's sleeper breach.


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[Assistant] You know what my, uh, do you remember my Titans Theory Breach as to why they're not popular?


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[Assistant] No, it's the opposite of that. They're not typically Nashvilleian in that they're not exciting.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think I said last year during the playoff run and maybe after the Bengals won.


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[Assistant] The Bengals last year felt like a Nashville team because of the way they played, Joe Burrow being exciting, uh, high powered offense. It just feels like the Titans have never really been that. Maybe go back to Steve McNair days.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, conceivably sure. And it all comes down to Derek Henry. And the issue last year, as Priestwell knows, is that Derek Henry didn't play for the previous, I don't know, month or whatever it was for the foot injury. He came back against the Cincinnati, in the Cincinnati game at home in Nashville and looked nothing like himself. And then Ryan Tannehill threw a bunch of terrible interceptions. If Ryan Tannehill plays like he did tonight,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, why not? They can just drag teams up and down the field and, you know, do the thing that we saw. What was that? The, yeah, the, the Monday night game where.


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[Assistant] Washington 81 snaps and the Eagles had 40 snaps. I mean, you could do that. It's just, I don't know if that's sustainable over two or three or four games, if you make it to the big dance there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think, I think Breach touched on it, uh, just talking about...


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Bengals have to go back to Nashville.


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[Assistant] I'm guessing you don't feel great about that game as we sit here as a Bengals fan?


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[Assistant] Let me double down on that question. What if you switch head coaches on that team?


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[Assistant] So something I want to note in terms of the Titans, uhm, someone in the comments mentioned, what do we mean when we say trust teams? I mean, I don't think that's a complicated concept. It's just the Titans.


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[Assistant] I think that uhm, I think variable might be interested in Derek Carver or Nathaniel. I'm speculating, but I-


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[Assistant] So Brinton, you mentioned Traylon Burks, and this just is a...


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[Assistant] Another sort of conversation that you should have about where you take these wide receivers, uh, because he was the first round pick that traded A.J. Brown. And, you know, in retrospect, it doesn't matter which direction you're looking at it. The A.J. Brown trade.


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[Assistant] It's not, doesn't reflect well on the Titans. AJ Brown wanted out clearly and he's having a great season, but Traylon Burks, as you noted, balled out tonight, finally.


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[Assistant] Eight catches, excuse me, seven catches, 111 yards, including, which I thought, I mean,


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[Assistant] I thought this play was sort of a microcosm of this game and that one team seemed more prepared than the other and it was just before the two minute warning.


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[Assistant] Still doesn't have a touchdown, uh, or receiving touchdown, but I mentioned him in terms of the draft cause he went in the first round. You know who went in the second round? Christian Watson and Christian Watson had two touchdowns tonight. He had.


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[Assistant] Because they have so many needs. I mean, maybe though, because they did get rid of AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] Breach in 2020, Derek Henry had 378 attempts, uh, career high. The next year he played eight games, which was last season and obviously had the foot injury. So I'll let you answer the question if you're concerned or not.


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[Assistant] I have a thought, keep Donta Freeman, Donta Foreman, excuse me. Donta Foreman was great. Um, do you guys know who's currently second? Dontro Hoyard? Uh, on the team in rushing attempts.


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[Assistant] Willis is probably fourth. And then Malik Willis is fourth and Hassan Haskins who kick, returns kicks, primarily the rookie is after that. But the point, and then Traylon Burks is after that. So that tells you.


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[Assistant] Who are some of the other second round receivers, like Randall Cobb?


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[Assistant] Uh, Greg Jennings, that's the one I was thinking of. All their numbers, Devonte Adams, all their numbers are average numbers, um, and maybe even below average in terms of what they produce as rookies. So this isn't uncommon, but it doesn't change the frustration. I was laughing when you mentioned that Aaron Rodgers is missing some throats because there's that


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[Assistant] Uh, a lot tonight. Uhm, so yeaah, I don't know. He hasn't, Breach doesn't feel like, we've talked about this before, like, sometimes he'll go into halftime and be like, I'm done and just sort of check out mentally. It doesn't feel like that's the case. It feels like he's trying. It just feels like he's having a couple of big bin in the last hurrah moments as we, you know, come down the stretch here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think he's had one this year, have he? December 12th.


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[Assistant] Because once you, once you bench him, he's going to keep walking. He's going home, just like he said tonight.


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[Assistant] The question that you have to ask is will Erin be okay with it? I don't think so two weeks from now.


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[Assistant] Call it whatever you want to, but Rogers, he ain't no dummy. He's going to be like, yeah, I know what this is. You trying to Eli manning me with Gino Smith.


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[Assistant] I'm going to make a prediction right now. They're going to showcase Jordan Love over the final five or six games. They're going to trade Jordan Love. Aaron Rodgers is then going to promptly retire.


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[Assistant] Maybe he'll restructure his contract right before he retires. That seems interesting.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, next week at Philadelphia, and then at Chicago, and then at Bi. So let's just quickly say, in two weeks, they're four and seven now. What do you think?


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[Assistant] But I'm talking about the Packers, like what gives you any confidence in this Packers scene that has no shows?


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[Assistant] I'm going to predict that we see Jordan Love in week 18, but not before that. That's, I feel like they're going to win one of these games and then Aaron Rodgers is going to play it out and then they're going to have to.


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[Assistant] Straightjacket him to the bench in week 18 so they can put Jordan LeBeth there against Alliance.


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[Assistant] Well, they don't have an easy schedule down the street. I mean, the Rams aren't good, but they have at Miami, Minnesota. I'm guessing the Vikings will still be good by then. People get mad at me for not giving Kurt Cousins his...


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[Assistant] I just have one question. Can I, can I answer a question? Yea, go ahead. For the two guys that seem to just be Bills fans out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I would either, but like in that situation, you're splitting hairs. And I think defensively you're splitting hairs too, because I mean, the Eagles have the best point. They're creating turnovers.


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[Assistant] I just think you've seen, I think you've seen more of Josh Allen. So you feel more comfortable and more inclined to take their offense and what you've seen over the past few years over somebody who you've just seen turn over a new leaf.


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[Assistant] That's the difference in the situation, because if you're splitting hairs regardless, both these teams are playing out of their mind this year, and the Bills have one more loss than the Eagles who are undefeated.


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[Assistant] Either way, all these conversations, you're splitting hairs. Like you're splitting the smallest of margins over what team is better.


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[Assistant] You're just, you feel way more comfortable taking the team that you've seen this do for two or three seasons now, then you are a team that you've seen run the ball very well for their first season with Jamie Hertz under the helm and now seeing them be able to throw the ball with new additions of AJ Brown. That's the difference between those.


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[Assistant] I would say defensively Jordan Davis was a big miss. You know, having a big body out there like that who absorbs two blocks.


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[Assistant] And it allows your, your, your, especially when they're running that five, their five defensive linemen look.


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[Assistant] It doesn't allow your D tackles to get those one-on-one looks anymore. Even though Javon Hargrave really had a great game, he had three sacks tonight. I think that they were feeling a little bit, you know, the.


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[Assistant] The lack of Jordan Davis and then offensively, I think it's just miscues. I think just, you know.


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[Assistant] I just think he was confused, you know, I think Jaemin got confused out there, you know, guys were on the same page, but those are the types of things that happen in a short week when you aren't able to install a full game plan and everything's, you know, you know, turned up a little bit. So.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not too worried. I'm glad that we were like, I mean, like Nick Sirianni said, going to the half, coming out at halftime, you know.


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[Assistant] I will say one thing though that shocked me and was very alarming.


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[Assistant] Lane Johnson and more, mostly I would say Jordan Malata.


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[Assistant] He struggled tonight to stop, uh, Jerry Hughes.


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[Assistant] My Lada was tired, but he got beat badly twice that led to both the dealing hurt sack. So I, I don't know what's going on with that either. Definitely tighten that up, but that was weird. I will use to say that.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think, I, I don't know about people who aren't watching. I wouldn't say that people aren't watching because...


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[Assistant] But most of them will go to the World Series game that's gonna happen this weekend, so.


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[Assistant] I mean game, uh, yeaah, game six. Game six will be this weekend in Houston. So if they're going to Houston, most of them are actually going to stay and then go to the Phillies game.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I mean, you saw, I mean, you saw. Or Jordan Davis. Yeaah, Jordan Davis, but you saw Kavon Wallace back there. He ain't it.


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[Assistant] You know, he was good at Clemson, like really good at Clemson, but he is, he is not a good pro back there.


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[Assistant] He's just not, he's not, he's not what we need. And we knew that coming in. That's why the big thing coming into the season was, what is Howard Grossman going to do with that safety slack? And when he made that move late in


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[Assistant] We were like, okay, we finally got a safety back there with EBS who took a step this year as well.


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[Assistant] You know, it fortifies our defense and, you know, helps our corners as well. So yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, potential. If, uh, Breach were here, Breach is coming, he's writing grades, but he would say potential team.


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[Assistant] Let's uh, look man, hey, I'm all about efficiency.


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[Assistant] And you are the Anti-Bobs from Office Space. So let's see how this works out. How about it?


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I think you're right about the comparison, great actor by the way, uh, comparison in terms of what this feels like, and...


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[Assistant] The thing about the 49ers, and this is a question I keep coming back to, I need breach here for backup because I know how you're going to react to this. The Christian McCaffrey trade is a lot more palatable if you go back a year and a half, however long it was, and you don't do the, the trade lance thing.


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[Assistant] Cause you gave up a crap ton for a guy that you don't need, it turns out. Now I understand that Jimmy G.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing. If they win the Sewer Bowl, it doesn't matter. They could pull the Rams and trade every first run pick from now until eternity, and that's fine. Uhm, I think, you know, we don't have to discuss that far down the road. I think the Sewer Bowl appearance has to be in the cards in order to sort of justify what they've done the last two years in terms of the draft.


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[Assistant] It's a credit to John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan and probably most importantly, Jimmy Garoppolo and


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[Assistant] Last year was deal, so we'll see. Trey Lance is probably going to have the job next year, but for now, it's certainly a great way to go out for a guy who's so freaking ugly that this is the break that he needs.


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[Assistant] Wait, you need to back up and explain the team they were playing. That, that tells you a lot about how this game played out. Not to take anything with the 49ers and what they did or did not do.


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[Assistant] This wasn't a flex like the Cowboys on the Vikings. This was a flex on a JV football team playing a division one national championship team.


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[Assistant] You say rival, they're not a rival. They're a team that happens to play geographically close to where the 49ers just kick the crap out of them. In Mexico City, by the way.


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[Assistant] Well, because I'm all about recency bias. I'll do the Eagles and I'll do San Fran.


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[Assistant] And then I said Seattle, Tampa Bay Giants. I think that's all of them.


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[Assistant] The, the thing that you have to, you don't have to do anything. I hate it when people say that. The thing you have to remember, uh, the thing that I personally have to guard against is not forgetting who the San Francisco 49ers just demolished.


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[Assistant] Sure. So that's important. Uh, last week they beat the Chargers. That game, that team was banged up, but it's still the Chargers team.


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[Assistant] They had to buy the prior, prior to that, they beat, uh, the Rams, another team that's had some injury issues, of course. And then before that, they, they lost to the Chiefs 44 to 23. But again, to your point, you know, last week where as they are, the Cowboys are done because they just got smoked by a Aaron Rodgers football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I'm taking, in the neutral field, I'll take the Eagles. I mean, that line is probably minus one and a half.


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[Assistant] Rich, let me ask you before you answer that question or even just comment. We were just rating, uh, our top seven teams in that order. It doesn't have to be by playoff, um, matchup in the NFC and wins over Wilson had on a neutral field Eagles getting or giving a point and a half against the 49ers. And Brinson was just saying a sports book, uh, that one of the guys he knows has it the other way around.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but wait a second. Let me just follow up on Breach for the first couple of things. So I mentioned this to Brinson earlier.


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[Assistant] How can you put any stock in the Arizona Cardinals as an opponent, number one? And number two, why is this team better than Philadelphia in your eyes?


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[Assistant] Push back a little bit, the last three teams they played are absolute dog crap. And the Chargers in the middle, I like a lot, but they were injured in that game. So yeah, they, they rolled in those games and the argument you can make, I suppose, is what I always talk about with football outsiders. Uh, you beat bad teams badly and that's what they did there. So I, you give, you do get some information from that. I mean, just if you, I mean, the Eagles last four wins.


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[Assistant] I know, I'm just saying we're talking about 49ers. And that's why I said, I'm not going to hold your feet to the fire because I think it's, it's a fair conversation. Like both these teams are two of the best. One team is playing really well and one is struggling.


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[Assistant] Uhm, wash away, if you will, the Tray Lance trade. The Christian McCaffrey trade doesn't matter at this point, because if you don't do the Tray Lance trade, then Christian McCaffrey makes a ton of sense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think, I think everyone, people have felt like that since day one, I feel like.


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[Assistant] You know. And Trey Lance very well could be the starter because Jimmy's out of a contract at the end of this year.


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[Assistant] Okay, well let's start. You go first and we'll go down the list and see how far we get. We'll go in order.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, with the fifth pick of this playoff draft that we are doing, most certainly.


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[Assistant] I'm out. First of all, you should have stopped at Tampa Bay. I mean, you shouldn't.


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[Assistant] Oh, oh, okay. Uhm, I'll put the Vikings in there. I'll, I'll, I'll add the Vikings. Brice the Cowboys. But yea, that, that's, uh, that's like the, the 10,000 to 1, the Vikings. No disrespect to Vikings.


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[Assistant] What is a comparable team that has made it to the Super Bowl in NFL history to the Seattle Seahawks in 2022?


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[Assistant] Alright, just think about it. You have to answer now. But my point is that it's so incredibly unlikely. I don't even know if you...


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[Assistant] Okay, so we have four, uh, maybe five. You said, you said twelve.


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[Assistant] So you're at four, Breech, I'm at five, I'll say five, and Brynston is somehow at six. So Brynston's got to get six more teams into the Super Bowl conversation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I understand. I didn't think they were all coming. By the way, quickly, Bob Sworsky in the comments asked me, I just made the comment that I turned my boy Gino pretty quick. I still love Gino, but let's be real.


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[Assistant] I am ruling out Tampa Bay. I feel quite comfortable doing that. They are a terrible football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Breach is, he's, he's afraid of Tom Brady. I am not.


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[Assistant] I think the Niners are, uh, they, I think they are a good football team. And Breach, I was looking at last season. They didn't really play anyone down the stretch either. And it's so, it feels like it was 10 years ago. It's hard to figure out which teams were good or not. So the week 14 game, they beat the Bengals in overtime. I don't remember that game. How did that play out?


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[Assistant] Okay, so they won that game and then they beat the Falcons. The Falcons won all those one-score games last year, lost to Avon. They lost to the Titans. They beat the Texans, duh. Uh, they went to overtime, beat the Rams in that game in week 18, the last game of the season. And that's how they got into the playoffs. So they played some, some tough teams down the stretch. Uh, the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Uh, and the Titan, excuse me, the Rams in particular won those games and.


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[Assistant] I just feel like this team in the, I'm not a Jimmy G guy. He's in the same, he's in the Kirk Cousins mold for me and the Andy Dalton mold in a lot of ways in terms of, uh, how far he can get you. But I think Kyle Shanahan, I think you just mentioned this for instance, but Kyle Shanahan can overcome a lot.


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[Assistant] My concern with that is the White Jack tree, Lance, but whatever. But Elijah Mitchell's back.


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[Assistant] So, yeaah. No, I get it. It's hard to say this team.


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[Assistant] Wilt's down the stretch because they get better. A lot of teams that aren't used to being in this position struggle for various reasons. And uhm, you know, it's hard to imagine the 49ers are just going to suddenly pack up and leave.


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[Assistant] Oh, Breach knows that. It's a Saturday at 4.30 game for sure. Breach is our CBS Sports HQ slash Pixix podcast scheduler. Yeah, I'm taking the Seahawks in that game.


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[Assistant] By the way, the fact that you just mentioned that matchup, Billy's sweating right now. He doesn't even want to think about it. He's like nervous.


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[Assistant] And the Eagles would have, good or bad, played one fewer game. Sometimes it's not great if you're a young team.


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[Assistant] Can I ask a couple questions about the Cardinals, or is there something else we need to talk about?


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[Assistant] Alright, here's, here's my, uh, here's my ques- two questions.


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[Assistant] Do you think that Cliff Kingsbury wanted Colt McCoy to play as well as he did last week so he can make the case to keep Kyler on the bench so he won't get fired? And the second part of that question is, when's Cliff getting fired?


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[Assistant] The halftime, there was 7 points at halftime? That's all you said? Yeah, it was 17, 10 at halftime.


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[Assistant] And the 49ers were winning. So let me ask you guys both this. What was the...


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[Assistant] Brinson slash breach win probability for the Cardinals going into the third, start of the third quarter.


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[Assistant] He wore the flat brim cap, presumably in honor of Kyle Shanahan, and he coached like he always coaches.


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[Assistant] And I think it's different, and Brady Quinn talked about this on the Brady Quinn pod last week, because the players...


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[Assistant] Uhm, in addition to terrible play calling, as you mentioned, not being able to win a football game once the weather gets cold, on and on and on.


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[Assistant] Like I don't care how much you pay that guy, at some point you gotta be like, look man.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Better chance he wins the lottery, but go on, what's next? I think the other games.


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[Assistant] That he is in the NFL as a coach, that's all I'm saying.


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[Assistant] So this is a conversation that theoretically happens in front of the owner, and uhm, you're probably like, listen, all three of you buttholes, get out of here. Like, I don't care about these contracts being tied together or whatever your agent, Wil Brents, is telling me, you guys gotta beat it.


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[Assistant] Do you wanna cut it quick or do you wanna drag it out? Cause otherwise you're gonna be there for five years watching the same horror show every single season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I get it. I'm just, it's just, it's just crazy town USA. Alright, that's more than two and a half minutes on the card.


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[Assistant] Last two drives finished inside the 10. That is pretty, that is pretty brutal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what's fun, I'm on the best bet as in the titans too, what's funny is you preface this as two heavyweights and I'm sure people that know the card are like, there's probably two other games they were thinking that you were talking about, this might be the third in the rank of heavyweights.


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[Assistant] So you talked about the, uh, Derrick Henry side of it. The Philly offense ran all over Green Bay, been running really well, but Tennessee's defense is third in rush yards per play. Philly's gonna have to throw to win. They've been very efficient passing very good yards per play numbers, but they don't throw at a ton. Only one game over 220 pass yards since week two. And their defense just gave up 32 and 33 points in their last two home games, they're just not getting stops at all.


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[Assistant] I think Tennessee can have success offensively. Tana Hills played well through his ankle injury, starting to connect with Traylon Berksmore.


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[Assistant] He's only had one loss by five plus all year. This is, you don't want to give him a ton of points and that's why we saw this line was five and a half. I was hoping to catch six, even though the, my power ratings say Philly would be the value and they should be favored by six and a half. I just love backing variable in these spots. I was hoping to get six, started to come down. I'm making it a best bet at plus five. It's four and a half in the market. I think it probably needs to go a little bit lower.


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[Assistant] He's gonna get more open in this game. He's gonna try harder this week.


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[Assistant] That's why that game was close, even though Kirk had one of his best games of the season there. Minnesota defense gave up 7.4 yards per play in that game. A kickoff return touchdown helped him win, otherwise it was tied.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Cousins coming off that great game, but he struggled against the lead defenses. The Minnesota scored seven at Philly and three against Dallas in that awful game a few weeks ago. And the Jets defense sits between both in yards per play, all of them in the top five. So I have the Jets plus three as a best bet. I think they can still have success offensively in this matchup. Well, I think the defense is going to make it very hard for Cousins and company here.


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[Assistant] If they're in the playoff, then I take the under. Right. And I think they'll stay in the playoff one, so.


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[Assistant] They're at Minnesota this week, obviously, then at Buffalo, that would be a tough game where maybe, you know, I think it's too soon to go back to Zach Wilson. But then they're home against the Lions and Jaguars after that at Seattle, which doesn't have a good defense, and then close the season at Miami. So I don't know what point he's going to be bad enough that you're going back to Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] Is that enough time though to resolve his issues that he's had? Because going to Mike White wasn't about like Mike White being this fantastic future franchise quarterback. It was about Zach Wilson needing time, needing a break and just not


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[Assistant] Sure, RJ appreciates that. I think Pete's trying to knock down my overall record because I've had the Falcons as a best bet at plus one. It was minus one. Uhm, you know, some other sharps released a, uh, you know, the Pittsburgh as a play and it's moved through the number, which isn't, I mean, plus one either way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's one of the, uh, I believe it was the Chernoff Podcast.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about it. I'm not in his telegram, but I think he talked about he released it as a play and they kept going through the, through the pickup, but one either side, it's not that big a deal, but Pete's right. Second straight road game for pad Pittsburgh team.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but this is a mad defense kind of, but that offense for Atlanta had 6 yards for play against Washington, which I consider a good defense without Kyle Pitts, and they nearly won the game at the end. You know, just that bad bounce there to throw the interception there, but uhm, could have won the game there.


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[Assistant] Their defense doesn't generate pressure though, so maybe Pittsburgh can win on the road, but I just think it's a tough spot. Second straight road game.


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[Assistant] And that would be big, but the Giants offense, 31st and Sacrate anyway, so they don't need to, they don't need him to have success. They're going to probably have success anyway, rushing the passer. Uhm, the value is too good for me with the Giants on power ratings to, to take Washington, uhm, because I don't think there's that big a gap between these teams and the Giants being at home. I think maybe they should be favored by one or pick him at worst.


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[Assistant] But I don't want to take him in this spot. Uhm, I'm leaning that way, but Washington's offense winning with run game. 150 plus rush yards, three straight. Giants defense 30th in rush yards per game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's strange to see the Giants as a home dog here, but I think that, that defense and the run offense for Washington is the difference. Uhm, I think it's a fine teaser leg. I can't see Washington beating teams by 2 scores really, unless they're terrible. And I don't think the Giants are terrible with how well coached they are. Uhm, so I was thinking about putting it in a teaser, but for now, I'm just leaning to the Giants. But if you want to throw the Giants in a teaser, I think that's a good call.


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[Assistant] Baltimore can stick to that play defense and win this game pretty easily because Denver is terrible offensively. 4.3 yards for play against Carolina. Haven't scored more than one touchdown in a game since October.


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[Assistant] Have scored more than one touchdown in a game twice all year. It's just, they can't, they, you're not going to top 16, 13 points like that and you're not going to win games like that. So I think Baltimore can cover if they want.


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[Assistant] If Lamar is, is relatively healthy, but is a big number. So I teased it as well. I got it down to minus two as the first leg of my teaser.


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[Assistant] The Jacksonville defense has allowed 20 plus points in the sixth straight and Detroit's offense has scored 25 plus in three straights. So it seems like a high scoring game here. Jacksonville coming off their signature win for Lawrence, like you said, he really needed that and really excited about his future. Did have two weeks to prepare for that game. So a little bit of, they're going to look as good as they are with that extra extra prep with Doug Peterson. Um, and I don't know that they're going to look that good moving forward.


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[Assistant] I think they're both improving. Uhm, this line was Detroit minus one. It swung all the way to Jaguars minus one. Don't quite agree with that. I think I might make Detroit a slight favorite at home. If it gets up to one and a half, I think Detroit's a great teaser leg because they can come back on anyone and backdoor cover anybody with that offense.


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[Assistant] That's right. Right. So, you know, in those, um, those year two quarterbacks in Spahomes, you know, we've been looking for those year two quarterbacks to throw MVP votes on, um, or MVP bets on Lawrence was kind of a little bit of the guy this year, year two. But of course, like you said, throw out that last year, this is his true rookie year. Do we treat him like a year or two, maybe dark horse MVP candidate next year? It's going to be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh,


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[Assistant] The play is Jared Goff. People are talking about Triple Lawrence after that win. There's going to be some people backing him and thinking, oh Detroit could play that golf St. Brown stack. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] And I'm teasing them too to plus say, you know, you mentioned we had the same teaser. I like teasing them at this number, expecting close game. A little worried because the Chiefs can score 40 on anyone, you know, whenever they want sometimes.


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[Assistant] So you could easily see this being a 9, 10 point game. Even if it is a close game because the Chiefs are so good. But hopefully Chase is ruled in. We expect him to play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if he is officially ruled in this line, he'll come down. I'm probably then looking to play Kansas City on just the straight spread. Major revenge game, like you said, for that playoff loss. Best team in the league, so laying less than three. Even on the road, I like them there. Since he's playing incredibly well, but they're medium ranked in yards per play in both offense and defense, so it's not like they're...


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[Assistant] So now they're a huge step up in competition and I'm sure they want to prove themselves. It's going to be tough from here on out, but I think they can keep it close here, so I teased it as well.


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[Assistant] Cut it out a win in the end last week. Uhm, their, their offense not explosive, but the Vegas defense bad up third down. So I think they can still sustain drives and make this a pretty high scoring game. Uh, Vegas offense though, fifth in yards for play, fourth in rush yards for play, gonna run.


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[Assistant] As long as Josh Jacobs is good, you know, he played through like half injury last week. Seems like he thinks he's fine, you know, and, and looking at how he performed on the field, I mean, I assume he's fine. You know, you don't do that when you're, you're, you're at anything less than a hundred percent to me. Um, but.


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[Assistant] They should play pretty well. They've lost by more than seven just once all year, and that was that flu game in New Orleans when everybody on offense apparently was sick. There was sickness going through the locker room. Um, Vegas has only lost by five at the Chargers in week one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they lost the turnover margin 3-0 there, and I don't think that happens here. And if that's not happening, the Raiders have a good chance to win the game. So, my lean is to them at the pick. At pick, I'm staying.


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[Assistant] Somebody being me because I made it a best bet at minus 11. I am the Petschers power ratings wise. I have it at 12. Uhm, but then you look at the matchups and that Dallas defense is going to dominate the Indy offensive line. And we've seen what Indy's offense looks like when Matt Ryan has no time to throw. It's look, it's pretty terrible. We've seen them get shut out before already this year. That could happen here.


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[Assistant] And then you look at the other side of the ball, Dallas offense has totaled 420 plus yards and four straight essentially.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dak Prescott came back, had one game where they, where they beat, uh, Detroit 24-6, I believe. And then since then.


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[Assistant] They literally scored four touchdowns each game since then. Four offensive touchdowns. They just cannot be stopped offensively. So even though the Colts have a good defense, I think the Cowboys will get theirs on the scoreboard. And I don't see how the Colts score points. Then you get the big rest advantage here. Dallas played last Thursday, Indy played on Monday. Uhm, and Dallas already has five double-digit wins on the season, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, it was more. I mean, it opened a lot higher and it just steamed down with the Saints. People wanted to pile on the Saints, A, because of the recent history, like you said, and B, because of the Tristan Worf's injury. Uhm, you know, and that's going to be, that Tampa Bay's offensive line has already been a problem.


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[Assistant] Um, but New Orleans defense, they rank well in yards for play, but they give up plenty of points. I think Tampa can still score points here, even with the state of their offensive line. They won by 10 in New Orleans in week two and the offense didn't play that well in that game. Didn't have Godwin.


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[Assistant] Rashad White was a smaller So I think they can have success here. They were playing well before the value overall, maybe a victim this week of Cleveland rallying around Percet in his last game. So I think the look ahead line, which was six and a half.


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[Assistant] The opening line, which is a little bit less than that, but, but a lot closer to six and a half than the three and a half. They weren't as far off as the movement suggests. I'd probably put it at four, four and a half, so.


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[Assistant] And Green Bay could take their first ever lead with a win over Chicago here. So Green Bay has lost seven of last eight, so they should have the lead by this point, but they're just playing awful. Their defense has surrendered 400 plus yards and three straight. Can't stop the run, particularly hurts on Sunday. So if Fields is in, I think smash the over.


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[Assistant] If fields is trending out, which I think probably is the case, even at four and a half, I like the Packers. So those are the two ways I'm leaning, but no play right now.


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[Assistant] No, idiot season. Do the Bears play the Colts next year?


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[Assistant] Tiebreaker here for revenge. Jadavian Clowny Revenge Game, maybe? Oh! Good call. Alright, to the Braz the Browns Revenge Game.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, no idea what to expect from Watson. First game since 2020, can't lay the 7 with the Browns. I think the Browns, if it's Jacobi, were set on probably fine laying the 7 with how bad Houston is. Cause they don't have to do much. Cleveland's offense can run all over.


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[Assistant] Houston's defense, and Watson probably doesn't have to make many plays, but this really feels like Houston Super Bowl. I know the players aren't the same, but this is the win you want against Deshaun Watson, and you're going to get the number one pick either way. But are the players motivated? It doesn't really seem like they've been motivated these last few weeks. Offense had 36 net yards on their first eight drives last week. I mean, I can't see them scoring more than 10.


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[Assistant] 10, 13, maybe 17 points if you stretch it and squint and get a defensive score somewhere. So never backing Houston the rest of the season. Would need to see Watson play first where I can back him in the spot. So just going to stay away, maybe lead to the under.


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[Assistant] Miami's defense had three some of that's atypical f get a lot of turnovers th of all over just once in combined. So I think the San going to have a clear edge and then the other side, it's a lead defense arm said injuries huge. I


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[Assistant] But if he doesn't play, is the pass rush going to get the two a little bit? Even though he gets the ball out pretty quickly. My lean would be the San Francisco. I was hoping to back him at three. Got down to three and a half. It's back up to four now, so that's not going to happen. So I'm probably just staying away.


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[Assistant] In three straight, so maybe the play here is the over. If you have any confidence at all in the Rams offense, which did nothing against Kansas City, but this is a much easier matchup. We'll see who's that quarterback. I can't imagine at Stafford.


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[Assistant] Can't lay 8-7 and a half, whatever, with Seattle's defense on the road though, even against this team. So if you're going to play it, I think you should play Rams.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but there's only, I mean, each week there's only like three or four legs you should be teasing anyway. So it just, it's, it's, you know, and I could have easily took the giants there. Do you want to look a head pick too, Will? Oh yeah, sorry. Yeah. What are the look heads?


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[Assistant] Chiefs minus seven and a half at the Broncos. Broncos offense not progressing at all, though a startage game last year, of the year was last week against Carolina. Defense solid much of the year, but they're super banged up. I don't think they're going to hang around in this game against Kansas City. Kansas City has five wins by double digits, five straight games over 430 yards, even in Denver. I think this line should be 10. So I think it's going to go up.


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[Assistant] What'd you say? I heard the teller that you were talking smack about me. What'd you say?


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[Assistant] And in graduate school, you have a bunch of, like your hours are weird, right? So you have a bunch of free time. And then once my wife and I moved to DC, we didn't have kids yet. I would get home at six o'clock and not have anything to do. So I was like, you know what? There's this thing called blog spot. Let me.


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[Assistant] Just start writing stuff. Like, you know, no one was reading it. But uhm, Will Leach, that's been linked to something I wrote as a Steelers blog, 2005. And that was like a huge, huge deal for me. And then uhm,


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[Assistant] That was such a tame time compared to where things are now. So it's almost not even interesting, but yeah.


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[Assistant] Let me just say that how crazy is a game that it can have 5 crazy moments where every single one of them are jaw dropping, oh my god did this just happen, and 4 of the 5 happened in the final 60 seconds and or overtime.


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[Assistant] Let's start with number five. Came in the third quarter. It was Daven Cooke's 81 yard touchdown run.


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[Assistant] This is a play that people forgot about. That's how bonkers this game was. The second longest touchdown run of the season. The longest touchdown run of Dalvin Cook's career and the Vikings longest touchdown run since 2012 happened in this game and no one remembers it because everything else has happened.


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[Assistant] Uh, was so crazy. So, and that kind of spearheaded the Vikings comeback. They were down 27 to 10 at the time. The Cook touchdown.


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[Assistant] On fourth and two! This is, you know, like, I get it, you have to get rid of the ball, so I do like that he threw it, because you hate when a quarterback takes a sack on fourth and two. Literally, is anything better than taking the sack or throwing it out of bounds? Remember that time Derek Carr spiked the ball?


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[Assistant] You're up, if you go up 30 to 17, they have to get two touchdowns, which, and obviously they ended up scoring 33 anyway, but that took till overtime.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it just changed the complexion of how the opposing coach is going to coach against you when they're down two touchdowns versus a touchdown and a field goal. Uhm, so yes, at that point in the game with, like you just said, with just under 11 minutes left, I'm taking the field goal on fourth and two.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we'll just, the next three tied together. Uh, one of the plays on this list is the crazy catch you guys already mentioned, Justin Jefferson, fourth in 18.


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[Assistant] The man had literally no business catching this pass. Kirk Cousins just throws it up. The defender has it in two hands. Jefferson has it in one hand, falls to the ground and like a magic show, like Harry freaking Houdini rolls over and has the ball in his hand. I have no idea how that happened.


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[Assistant] Season or all time? All time. I mean, I think it's top 5.


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[Assistant] I, well, I'd have to think about it. You know, like there's the helmet catch in the Super Bowl. Yeah, uh, there's a few.


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[Assistant] The Vikings drive straight down the field. They get to the one yard line. It looks like they're going to win the game, but no. Kirk Cousins gets stopped.


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[Assistant] At the goal line. On fourth and goal from the one yard line. It looks like game over. It should be game over. The Vikings only have one time out left. There's only 50 seconds left. So literally all the Bills have to do is gain one inch. Twice.


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[Assistant] Get it on first down. Vikings call timeout. Get it on second down. Round out the clock. Game over.


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[Assistant] Well, and the thing is, yeah, cause it's backwards, backwards lateral out of the end zone. But so, you know, and Sean McTermott wasn't thinking safety, cause if you take the safety there, it becomes, uh,


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[Assistant] You can lose on a field goal, and there's still 50 seconds, and the Vikings still have one timeout, so they would just have to get in field goal range with one timeout. So I think he felt like there was enough time for Minnesota to do that, so we're not taking the safety. And obviously, Josh Allen fumbles the snap! And I think I read the stat that in the past 20 years, that has only happened on the goal line twice. And, Brent, do you know who the other person to do it was?


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[Assistant] Josh Owen fumbling it, you have Eric Kendricks recovering it in the end zone.


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[Assistant] Which, by the way, according to the NFL, uh, was the first go-ahead non-offensive touchdown scored by a trailing team in the final minute of the fourth quarter since 1986. So that is how improbable this is. We're talking about things that happened in 1986 when Wilson, uh, was the


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[Assistant] Somehow the QB sneak works like 90% of the time we saw it fail twice in a row.


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[Assistant] And then obviously the funny thing was there's still 48 seconds left in this game. The Bills are only down a field goal and it was like, you have too much time for Josh Allen and they did. And that brings us to another crazy play.


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[Assistant] Uh, which would have been even crazier if the Vikings had lost, is that the Bills got in the field goal range, thanks to a long connection from Josh Allen to Gabe Davis, the 20 yard throw really set up, uh, what ended up being the game tying field goal. The only problem is, it was an incomplete pass!


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[Assistant] But the officials decided not to review it. This was with obviously under two minutes left.


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[Assistant] Vikings would have lost. Every Vikings fan in Buffalo would have marched straight down to New York City and burned down NFL headquarters.


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[Assistant] But okay, now hold on, the difference though, the difference is that, and granted it was past interference and we all agree on that, but past interference is a subjective call, an opinion call, and this, an incomplete past is a black and white call.


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[Assistant] And one thing I'm gonna say is that since it's on the booth, the coach has no power when there's under two minutes left. Right. That should eliminate the rule that if the team runs the next play that you can't, cause


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[Assistant] I get it when there's, when it's on the coach's shoulders, that's like, can you get your challenge flag out fast enough before the team runs its next play? Are you confident enough in your challenge to throw it before the team runs its next play?


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[Assistant] That's just part of the mind games. But when the coach loses his power, the NFL should be able to buzz in and say, look, we have to review this. We don't care that you just ran this next play or blow the play dead or do whatever, but it's on the NFL to get that.


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[Assistant] The irony of what you just said about calling a timeout is that the Vikings literally use their third timeout, the play before the Gabe Davis play.


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[Assistant] All right. So then we go to overtime. That was, we just finished the game, David sketch, the bills, get their field goal. The Vikings drive straight down the field. They're like, you know what? We're just going to run the ball because, uh, everybody's worn down. And you know what? I also throw in a pass to Justin Jefferson because I've been doing that the entire game.


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[Assistant] Justin Jefferson had another crazy catch. I don't know how many crazy catches he had in this game, but out of his ten catches, at least five of them I think could officially be labeled as crazy. This is the one. Third and ten.


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[Assistant] He catches a pass that takes him down to the two yard line, which was just another bananas play.


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[Assistant] Throwing another interception when your team's in field goal range, it's okay to play it safe. You're in a good spot. It's only second down. You don't have to try and force something.


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[Assistant] And our guy PtwicePatrickPeterson.


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[Assistant] Well, and one thing real quick is that Carson Palmer was talking about that this week. He had a UCL injury in 2008 and he said, look, you can play with it, but you lose some mustard off your throw. Andrew was a ton of accuracy.


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[Assistant] Well, but if you think you're going to force a ball in there and you're usually throwing it 80 miles an hour and now it's only going 70 miles an hour, uh, that means the defender can make a play on it because it's not getting there as quickly as you and his football is not traveling that fast. Let me just use an example.


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[Assistant] Well, I think they need to win at least one playoff game. If you, if they, if they win this division and lose the wild card round, I, I don't think anyone in Minnesota considered them successful.


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[Assistant] So you're saying w-what would constitute a successful season? Are you saying they don't either?


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[Assistant] And, and here's the crazy part, if the season ended today, the Vikings would open at home against the 49ers. Who are you betting on in that game?


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[Assistant] Okay, real quick, if you told a Vikings fan in August that they would go 13 and four win the division and Kevin Connell's first year to coach, they would all sign up for that.


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[Assistant] I'm guessing that's, Jeff Sarri probably sat down with Parks Frazier and said, look buddy,


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[Assistant] You're calling the plays, but this isn't really complicated. We're going to give Jonathan Taylor the ball either every down or every other down. Uh, and when we need to let Matt Ryan throw, oh yeah, Matt Ryan's starting cause we're benching that guy who I don't even know his name cause he's been so terrible the last few weeks. Uh, that's Jeff Sarri, not me not knowing his name, but it's Ellinger.


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[Assistant] And we're putting that right in there and just call smart plays and we have enough talent to win. And Jonathan Taylor looked like the Jonathan Taylor that everyone thought he was going to be. He looked like that in week one when he went over 150 yards in this game.


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[Assistant] Uh, 147 yards and a touchdown. And that was it. If Jonathan Taylor is running like this, the Colts just, their offensive line looks better. Matt Ryan looks better. Every person looks better. Their defense looks better because they're not on the field as much. And so it's just like the old rising tide lifts all boats. That's what Jonathan Taylor does.


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[Assistant] He turned it over to Eric Decker. You know, Saturday still pulling the strings. That's why Taylor got all those runs. Someone, um, you know, the craziest play in this game was, and I, my mouth dropped watching it.


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[Assistant] Jeff Wilson's good. I mean, that's what it comes down to.


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[Assistant] And actually, the fact that the dolphins picked him up,


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[Assistant] I'm sure Mike McDaniel was just sitting at home when this trade was made going, Oh my God, is Kyle really going to give me this dude? Because now you have most who you had in San Francisco, Wilson, and you can basically just alternate possessions or just keep going with the hot hand.


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[Assistant] Uh, and both these guys had the hot hand today. So I mean, the Dolphins didn't need any more weapons and now they had another weapon. I mean, Jeff Wilson having what? 140 total yards, something where around there, 143 total yards. That is bonkers when you consider who else is on this team that they just brought someone in who's producing like that.


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[Assistant] That's his burner account, man. Now if you're on the podcast.


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[Assistant] Do I want to say the Dolphins? Yea, you do. Alright, I'll say the Dolphins and two get in. Two total? Dang.


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[Assistant] Brinton, I don't want to break it to you, but four teams from two divisions can't be in.


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[Assistant] But this was Brenton's theory two weeks ago that like if the Buccaneers get in, you're at least afraid of them. And you just look at, say the playoff standings right now, the Buccaneers would host the Giants in the wild card round. Who are you picking? The Bucs! The Bucs! You're picking Tom Brady!


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so. I mean, granted, you have Tom Brady, you expect it to be better, but with what this team's gone through and the offensive line is battered, you lost Gronk, I would say yes. That, that would constitute a successful season.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, look, the mileage was about the same, but the big difference is the time zones. This game started at 6.30 AM on the players.


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[Assistant] Bruce Irwin, who became the first player in NFL history to play a game in five different countries. Great fact. Wow. That's fancy. First and only.


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[Assistant] I think he thought it was the right call and he's like, I'm going to go prove that I'm not conservative anymore and approve those Packers fans that I've got big onions and I can make these big calls and big spots what I need to.


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[Assistant] And no, this was, this was absolutely, you're Mike McCarthy. The reason you got let go is because whatever, you didn't mess with Aaron Rodgers anymore, but because you made so many just asinine decisions and he's been such a good coach this year. And then boom, you have something like this come out. It is overtime, man. Take the points because.


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[Assistant] Your defense, you have the Cowboys defense, one of the best in the NFL. Yes, they struggled a little bit in the second half, but all you have to do is stop the Packers on one possession and the game's over. Hold them to a field goal, you get the ball back in sudden death, but so.


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[Assistant] If anyone didn't watch the game, it was fourth and three in overtime from the Packers 35, so they could have tried a 50 yard field goal or a goal forward.


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[Assistant] Yes. No, I was just, I finished my thought. I was just setting up a situation that was fourth and three at the Packers 35.


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[Assistant] Uh, now granted 53 yard field goal in Green Bay, uh, is no gimme. Uh, but it was just.


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[Assistant] Maybe who Dak threw the ball to? Maybe you thought Paul should have gotten it? I mean, I don't know. I'm just, I'm, I'm just.


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[Assistant] Well, maybe he's mad his offensive line. Maybe he was mad that he second guessed himself right after the play and I said, crap, I should have kicked the field goal. Yeah, maybe that's what it was.


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[Assistant] The Cowboys running back coach talked about that last week and he basically said that if Pollard doesn't have the build that Zeke does and when he plays the whole game he gets really beat up.


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[Assistant] True, but that, that's what their excuse is. That's why they say power does it.


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[Assistant] And this is just gonna sell Jerry on that point more. Oh, we lost and I don't care what Tony did. We're bringing Z back.


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[Assistant] Uh, the teams that are in, Giants, Cowboys, 49ers. I think there's too big of a gap.


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[Assistant] I mean, the commanders or packers have four wins and I think they'd have to catch the Cowboys or Giants because I don't think the 49ers are going to get much worse.


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[Assistant] I would, the Niners are probably going to make the miles.


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[Assistant] Right, and so that's what basically these teams have to do to catch the Giants, Cowboys, or 49ers. 49ers have, uh, uh, yeah, I just, I think those are the three teams.


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[Assistant] And Wilson, you said there's no way the Giants can miss it. The Giants do have the toughest remaining straight-lift schedule of any team in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Wines, what about the tigers? Wines and tigers and bears? Oh my.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields is good enough that he's getting there. I mean the fact that we're even having this conversation when four weeks ago everyone was right a bench Justin Fields and call him a bust.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, the offensive coordinator finally sat down and said, you know, maybe we need to completely revamp our offensive design around our quarterback. Maybe that will help us be successful. And that's what they did. And it's working like a charm except that, uh, there's don't have a defense to help him. And, uh, fun fact.


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[Assistant] Like, why would you, I mean, I, I, granted he wanted to keep from going out of bounds, but as soon as you hit this.


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[Assistant] You know, at least Jacksonville went out and threw the kitchen sink. They were like, you know, onside kick to start the game and they recovered it and it was like, Oh, maybe Jacksonville is going to do some crazy stuff.


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[Assistant] Stay in this game maybe. At least keep it close. And then you have Doug Peterson going out there and punning twice in Kansas City territory. Like,


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[Assistant] Dude, you're not gonna beat the Jeeves punning in Kansas City territory. And my favorite one was when I think he punted from, uh, Kansas City's 44.


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[Assistant] It's a touchback, Kansas City takes over at the 20 yard line, scores a touchdown 5 plays later. Like...


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[Assistant] No, because we've seen catches on the sideline where a guy touches it with one foot, touches it, you like. No, you have to get both feet down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's not ideal. Riley, Riley Patterson struggled. And the other part was that it came after Jacksonville scored a touchdown to cut at the 20 to seven. This is with, uh, under two minutes left, 35 seconds. This is what, this is what like 10 seconds left in the first half. Jacksonville kicks off.


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[Assistant] Kansas City fumbles the kickoff, Jacksonville picks it up, and they're about to get 10 points in 11 seconds, but then, uh, Riley misses a 41 yard field goal, and that just, you know, you can't miss two field goals and be punting from the 44 yard line.


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[Assistant] Mostly they hate Trevor Lawrence because he wants Coco to be the best. Uh, yes. Maybe he hates him because of his hair. That'd make more sense.


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[Assistant] You know, the cheese feel like a lot, the dolphins.


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[Assistant] Feel like a lock, even though they have a rough schedule down the stretch. The titans feel like a lock. The ravens feel like a lock.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think I just, I knock the Patriots out, I put the Bengals in, and then, man, I don't know, knock out the Jets, and put the Targers in.


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[Assistant] I don't know about the Chargers, man. Chargers still have to play the Raiders, the Broncos, the Rams, the Cardinals, and the Colts.


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[Assistant] It makes me feel better. No, dude. Badder, badder, he said. If Saturday gets close to the year, if the Colts make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Is he even on the board? Don't forget in pure Ryan Wilson fashion, uh, Mike Floreo tweeted that he would get a tattoo if the Colts go undefeated


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[Assistant] Remember all that thing we said about a team having to go, uh, they have to go 7 and 1 to get to 10 and 7. You think the Browns won 7 and 1?


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[Assistant] I would do that to go 7-1, but the Browns next two games are against the Bills and Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] My god. So you just don't have any doubt on your team if you're facing the Steelers.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's good because they suck at home, so, uh, Woodburns say 11 and 3, is that right?


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[Assistant] They actually looked good in the first half. They're up 10-0, Brinton.