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[Assistant] I was at, boy, what a tournament. Uh, John, Max Homa, a dueling on the back down at Riviera, which I think if it's not the best course on the PGA Tour schedule, I think most pros would agree it's at least in the top three or top five. You had Tiger Woods return, you had another


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[Assistant] Kind of, uh, so-so performance from Rory McElroy. What stood out to you in the week in Tinseltown?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're not going to talk about that prank because you and I, uh, do not want to get cancelled on this here golf channel podcast with Rex Leff. For all the takes, uh, feel free to check out Twitter.


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[Assistant] To Tiger Woods, and, and you and I talked about it, I believe, on the Golf Today hit, and then also in the preview podcast. It's not whether Tiger Woods can still play golf. It's like, I think, I think we get kinda lulled into the sense that, oh, he's 47 years old, his body is completely broken, like this guy has little to nothing left. That is not true.


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[Assistant] Whatsoever, he is capable, as capable, if not more capable than nearly everyone on the PGA Tour of hitting the shots. The trajectories, the shot shapes, the speeds, like they are all there.


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[Assistant] For 72 holes in competition, however, it is not. We've, we've, we see it in glimpses, we see it in flashes, we see it in spurts, uh, throughout the course of a round, and yet he does not sustain it for either the entirety of the 18 holes, or certainly in the 72 holes. And one of the predominant themes last year,


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[Assistant] Rexx in the nine official rounds that we saw him was, okay, he can get through and make the cut. Of course the St. Andrews he did when he was undone by an opening 78, but then he kind of wore down on the weekends some 78s, some 79s didn't even make it through all 72 holes.


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[Assistant] At the PJ championship. So that is what I most wanted to see this week. First and foremost was did his.


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[Assistant] That was two things that I wanted to see and I thought that's why the 67 on Saturday was a really good indication that hey, he's in a better place physically


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[Assistant] Kinda have a glimpse into how he was feeling. Both his club head speed and his ball speed.


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[Assistant] Like sideways to get down from the media center podium down to the live shot, uh, with Keurig K. Dixon. Like it's, it's, I still think it's a bit performative of how he acts inside the ropes to not let on as much pain, uh, as he is clearly feeling in this government that he's feeling after the round.


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[Assistant] Well, I certainly think there's a chance. Bayhull's certainly not. Uh, the Player's Championship is his one and only shot to play again before the Masters. Uh, that's anywhere from 25 to 50%.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the past seven months. Uhm, and so a lot's gonna depend on how his body responds to treatment.


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[Assistant] I mean if he's in just utter agony this week that does not portend well for him being able to tee it up again in three weeks time at TPC Sawgrass. I think things working in his favorite recs is that TPC Sawgrass would be one of, if not the easiest walk


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[Assistant] of the entire year. Obviously Augusta National, uh, we know about the Hills there. Uh, it's going to be, it could be certainly a very cold at the PGA championship. LACC is a brutal walk. It's been described to me. Could be cold at TPC.


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[Assistant] I mean, the March players could be cold. We've seen it plenty of times over the course of the year. Yea. It also could snow, uh, however, uh, at Oak Hill. Uh, LACC has been described to me as a more rigorous walking test than Augusta National, which I did not think was possible. Then you obviously have the hills, the mounds, the undulations, uh, the little hollows of walking a open championship test.


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[Assistant] And so from that standpoint, physically, it's going to be the easiest test that he can have. And I think deep down, Rex, and I wrote about this a little bit on Sunday night for...


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[Assistant] My game story, uh, pairing that with John Rahm. Deep down, Tiger Woods has to know.


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[Assistant] That to seriously compete at the mountains. I don't just mean make the cut and finish T45.


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[Assistant] His skills. Can that be done on the range of medalists? Sure. And he says he can hit balls. Can that be tightened up a little bit?


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[Assistant] While zipping around in a golf court, golf cart and medalist playing with JT, Rory and the like. Probably. A little bit. But to, to elevate his game in a manner that it's going to require him to do at Augusta National in golf's most exacting test, he has to be sharper


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[Assistant] With his scoring clubs. And the only way to do that is in tournament competition. So I think if Tiger Woods is being honest with himself, uh, he will recognize the need to play one more time. The question is whether he can physically handle it, uh, the 90 holes that it would likely, uh, take to get to the players championship.


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[Assistant] It didn't look that sharp at Riviera, the best part of his game.


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[Assistant] So the question that we need to answer on this podcast, the reason why people are tuning into this post Genesis podcast, the question is can Tiger Woods win again? Can Tiger Woods win and will Tiger Woods win again? What's the answer?


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[Assistant] I would say the overwhelming response after seeing Tiger Woods play golf last week is, oh yea, Tiger Woods can win again. Brandon Chamblee said it on Golf Central, I believe it was on Thursday, after the overrun. He said he had the goal.


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[Assistant] I honestly, I don't, I don't see it. I understand, it's almost like a default answer of, oh he's Tiger Woods, of course he can win again and I don't want to be accused of being


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[Assistant] It is. There's no other way to describe it. However, in 2019 when he won the Masters, Rex...


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[Assistant] Tiger was building towards that. He had five warm-up events before he got to Augusta National that year. He'd played well, uh, in his final start, uh, at the, at the match play, uh, RIP Austin Country Club where he beat Roy McElroy head-to-head. Like, things were building and it still, it still took


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[Assistant] To his, use his words, lightning in a bottle to win four years ago at


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[Assistant] Augusta National. So when you look at it, at it now, his ball speeds down, his club head speeds down.


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[Assistant] Uh, at, at the Masters in 2019, all he was worried about was his back. Now his back is still fused, still causing trouble. But now, uh, literally the most elemental aspect of tournament competition, which is walking 72 holes of competition, that is bringing him the most trouble.


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[Assistant] That is just a small part of it. Then you look at the competition. Like he finished 16 shots behind John Rahm at the Genesis Invitational. We're supposed to sort of glean


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[Assistant] You know, all these hopeful signs for the rest of the year. Tiger Woods isn't playing in


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[Assistant] The Honda, he's not playing the Sanderson Farms, he's not playing in Houston, like he's only playing against the strongest, deepest fields on golf's toughest test. All of that to me, leads me to believe it's, it would be incredibly unlikely, it would almost seem implausible for him to win again, but, like, you still see the glimpse


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[Assistant] If you still see the spurts, it's just hard to fathom that he could extend that for all 72 holes without like market improvement with his health and wellbeing.


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[Assistant] Do you, do you, do you want, do you want tangents? Uh, do you want us making fun of each other? Uh, do you want it to be, uh, completely incoherent rambling? That's exactly what we're doing, uh, on the podcast.


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[Assistant] I apologize for the farting reference to the folks in 7B as well. I was a little bit unnerved with that hit. Not just because I was like...


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[Assistant] 30 feet away from the first tee. People were teeing off. I needed to be quiet. Uh, but also I was on a delay. I didn't have a return monitor and I sometimes forget that I'm actually on camera for these things.


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[Assistant] So the entire experience was a little bit unnerving. I really don't want to do that again anytime soon. You actually mentioned the designated events and people are like, oh, like these designated events are really awesome. And I always used to think back when I would watch or watch or I'd cover


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[Assistant] Like the old WGC events, whether it was an Akron or, you know, one of the concession a couple years ago. Like this is exactly what's supposed to happen when you get the best players in the world together. Like you're supposed to have a leaderboard that makes you go, wow. And yet I would still classify these first three designated events as like a resounding success.


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[Assistant] For the PGH or you'd call more cow who threatened to run away


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[Assistant] Uh, with the, uh, season opening event at Kapalua, obviously was hunted down by John Rahm. You had a really compelling finish in Phoenix, even if no one was watching because they were getting ready for the Phoenix, uh, the Super Bowl parties. Uh, please, love of God, move that thing to the Super Bowl bye week with Scotty Scheffler, uh, going back to number one.


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[Assistant] And then you had Rom, Rom, Homa, Cantlay, uh, Zala, Taurus, uh, Sahith, I mean you had Tiger's Return, like it was, it's, it's just about as good as it can get. Do you think that this is,


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[Assistant] Kind of a, uh, a glimpse into the future. Was this an aberration? Should we expect every single designated event on the PJ Tour for the rest of the year to bring this kind of high stakes drama and world class winner? What are your thoughts? Because to me it seems like a slam dunk so far.


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[Assistant] These players, even if they are playing in the Honda Classic, are still being, uhm, well compensated for their efforts, are they not? I mean, we're looking at an 8.4 million dollar


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[Assistant] 25 to 30 events, huge purses, all the best players playing every single time and you know where to find them. Absent that, which the tour is not going to go into that model.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is just basically making official what we already know, isn't it? That this is a tour of the haves and the have mores and there's a little bit of something for everybody. I don't, I don't really see the issue with that. It's just basically as an official title.


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[Assistant] Hmm. So the Honda and the Genesis. Way to clap back.


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[Assistant] Because you're, if, if a guy is, is, is mopping up and finishing in the top fives in the Hondas of the world or the Valspars or the Valeros or, uh,


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[Assistant] As quality of a field, that is not as quality of opponents as you would have if you're finishing the top five in all of these designated tournaments. Why would you be quote unquote watering down the top fields, which are players who have proven themselves and or have other incentives with the pip to play in those tournaments?


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[Assistant] And fill out the fields that way, as opposed to players who are kind of beating up on lesser competition. Why would you, why would you want to do that if you're the PJ Torque?


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[Assistant] I like that you're whispering now, as if MJ Duffay can possibly hear you. Uhm, my point more, and obviously this is still being discussed, and there's actually


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[Assistant] Kind of a breakdown right now on golfshare.com. You can read it. Brett Lee Romine, our colleague, went through what it could look like with designated fields. He makes a couple of good points and there are a couple of things I would disagree with. I think tournament winners


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[Assistant] On the PGA Tour, whether they get into, uh, I wouldn't just have them get into Kapilua anymore. I wouldn't just have them get into the Masters. I would say if you win a PGA Tour event, non-designated or otherwise, you are now exempt into the designated tournament. I think you and I talked about it on the podcast last week. I would have some sort of cutoff point where


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[Assistant] Top 3, top 5, whatever you want to do, kind of have that running points list, those guys would then be exempt into Bay Hill and kind of have these


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[Assistant] Any PJ Tour player wants to have a close shot. First of all, I think it'd be boring.


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[Assistant] To be playing against the same thing. It's basically a bloated live model.


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[Assistant] But you can still have a limited field, but you have to incentivize and you have to reward those who are not in the designated fields by having these little checkpoints and these little barometers and hit these little carrots, uh, and try to get them in that way.


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[Assistant] I'm saying, I'm saying if you leave three or five spots for the hottest players on the FedExCup standings who are not otherwise eligible, yea, I would, I would leave room in those designated tournaments for them. I have no problem giving automatic exemptions in the designated tournaments for PJ Tour winners. That way even if it's, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, trying to think of a name this week who you probably wouldn't expect.


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[Assistant] Uh, to, to, to win the go- if a, if a Davis Riley, I don't even know if he's in the field this week, if a Davis Riley's-


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[Assistant] Nope, uh, put a pin in that. If he wins the Honda Classic, I'd like to see him next week at Bay Hill if he wasn't already eligible for those types of tournaments.


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[Assistant] Boy, isn't Ryan Palmer like 42? Uh, he, uh, he is, I think he rec- 46, 46, I'll take it back.


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[Assistant] Uh, well that's certainly interesting. Speaking of love being a dying art, how did you make it up to the bunkmate that you missed last week's Valentine's Day?


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[Assistant] Did she get you anything for Valentine's Day? No, and that was- You didn't get her anything, uh, but just forgot about it altogether.


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[Assistant] Second season gets underway this week at Mayakoba, long time PGTour stop, now kicking off.


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[Assistant] Uh, Greenbriar event and Dean Burmester, uh, who's PJ Tour rookie season will end after eight starts, uh, as he joins Louie Ustazin's team.


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[Assistant] Rex, there were a lot of big promises last fall with Greg Norman, CEO of Liv Golf, saying that he wanted to poach about six or seven more players from the top 20 in the world rankings to join Liv for the second season. What should we make of the fact that he didn't get a single one?


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[Assistant] We also weren't supposed to talk about the full swing podcast last week, and then we talked about the full swing podcast. At least, at least I did. You literally stood up, uh, and left the room.


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[Assistant] Tom Kellett is the one who took exception, uh, with lived defectors. Shout out Tom. Uh, great to hear from you. I enjoyed all the misspellings in your email.


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[Assistant] So why? Why did they not get the players? Boy, I'm getting very dizzy watching you here on this livestream. Why did they not get it? Did the Saudis tighten up the first strings?


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[Assistant] Uh, now that they are, are more involved, are the players, uhm,


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[Assistant] Kind of more in, in concert after the Delaware meeting, uh, ahead of the BMW championship where you had Roy McRoy and Tiger Woods spearheading things in that player only meeting. Obviously it's a combination of factors. It wasn't just one or two things. Uh, but what do you think is the driving force by the fact that, that Liv's signings here were certainly underwhelming?


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[Assistant] We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna shoot, we're gonna shoot for first round, guys with first round potential and instead, uh, we're getting, uh, the Brock Purdy's of the world who are Mr. Irrelevance.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's still trying to field the worst team possible. He has Cameron Tringale and former USA. Are they trying to lose? James Pyatt with Brendan Steele. Like, is he, hey there's Ramba. We had a delicious, uh, dinner.


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[Assistant] Is he, is he, is he trying to lose? Like there are financial incentives.


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[Assistant] Uh, to performing well on live golf. I know, I know, I know no one's watching. I know no one particularly cares, but like there seems to be a talent disparity between Phil Mickelson's team, Kevin Nod's team and like DJ's team or, or Brooks's team. Like these, these things are not created equal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's Neiman Munoz and Miro, uh, Sergio's team is stacked as well. Sergio, Abe Answer, Carlos Ortiz, and Eugenio Chikara, who I'm very bullish on, uh, for future prospects.


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[Assistant] Very interesting indeed. Thomas Peters, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't know about that choice, Rex. I mean, he was an Excel client. It's the first time that Excel client that's, uh, has signed with Live Golf. That's interesting, of course, because Tiger Woods, Mark Steinberg.


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[Assistant] Are involved with Excel. He did not play in the Genesis last week when now there's talk of having a top 50.


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[Assistant] for Luke Donald's Ryder Cup team. Thomas Peters, uh, has not performed well of late, uh, but his pedigree is well established. Rex, what are you getting into this week?


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[Assistant] But please, uh, are you going to hit, uh, are you gonna go hit the town in Palm Beach?


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[Assistant] I don't know if I was any grumpier than usual. In fact, I'm more tired today than I was. What's on the grill?


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[Assistant] Uh, tonight we're doing chicken thighs. We're, we're trying to, uh, eat healthy during the week and then the weekends, uh, just go absolutely insane. And so we're gonna be doing some chicken thighs, I've just picked us some salmon, do some strip steaks, and then this weekend, I'm thinking I'm going to go back, Rex, I'm gonna go back and try the well again.


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[Assistant] With a brisket. Got a Costco membership, got a Prime brisket, they're only like 45 bucks, uh, which is still a little bit of a tough pill to swallow, but it's not a totally


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[Assistant] Uh, totally disqualifying, uh, as a purchase if I do have to ruin one again. So I'll keep you apprised on whether I do that.


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[Assistant] Holding off on that, we are certainly talking to potential sponsors.


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[Assistant] But real quick, John Rahm is the best player in the world, that is without dispute, and John Rahm could certainly be, uh, primed for a historic year.


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[Assistant] In 2023, like the dude looks like an absolute monster, uh, as hungry as ever. It looks like he's gonna tear it up. Real quick, any thoughts on John Rahm? Before we wrap this up?


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[Assistant] That's definitely not what we're going to be talking about. What we're most looking forward to seeing, uh, during the Florida Swing. But thank you for following along with these email threads. Uh, yes, and just a button up. Nevermind. John Rahm, he said he did not need a ranking system.


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[Assistant] To validate what he thinks of his game. It certainly helps.


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[Assistant] Uh, to now have the number one ranking, but the fact that he's done it all over the world in, in myriad, uh, in myriad ways.


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[Assistant] Uh, confidence growing with each start. This is a guy who would not surprise me. Now three wins into his PGA Tour season on February.


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[Assistant] We could be looking at a five, six, seven win season. And of course, uh, he's going to be an enormous factor in the major championships. All right, let's go do it for this edition. We golf channel podcast with Rex and lab. We'll talk to you guys next week ahead of the Bay Hill event. Arnold Palmer, the Invitational. See you guys next week.


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[Assistant] It's the temperature that drove 25 degrees and the idea that those guys have to go back out tomorrow morning. We were talking about it on the ride home from the golf course. Tiger Woods has got to walk to the 12th tee, which isn't easy to begin with. We've all.


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[Assistant] Either stood on that 12th tee or thought about standing on that 12th tee and it's going to be, I don't know, when play starts again tomorrow morning on Saturday at 8am. I'm guessing somewhere around 40ish. Maybe a windchill right around there. I mean, it's going to be freezing cold.


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[Assistant] The major monster that we're used to seeing before he got hurt, before he went to live golf, before he sort of slipped off into the competitive ether. This is the guy that, you know, made him who he was. This is the guy that didn't care about the other 48 weeks out of the year. It was the four weeks that the major championships were played that he always wanted to focus on. It looked like.


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[Assistant] For a moment that he could run away with this. I mean, JD got it to nine under late in his round, but then threw up a double bogey and a couple of bogeys and ended up falling back. And it looked like this is going to be a commanding halfway lead for Brooks Koepke. It seems like me, John Rahm is probably going to have something to say about that, but it's Brooks in full flight.


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[Assistant] And we have a long two days to see how this plays out. Like I, I don't know that I'm willing to, you know, coordinate him that major monster again. But the part that gets me is if you go down the leaderboard and like you pointed out Sam Bennett and that's an unbelievable story, but you got Brooks and you got John Rome.


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[Assistant] Probably if we were making picks at the beginning of the week, that's one of those best case scenarios for no other reason than two top players and you're bringing the chaos because you're bringing the PGA tour and the live golf tour head to head at a major championship, which let's face it, it's, it's what kind of the fans want.


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[Assistant] But after that, I mean, it's a who's who. If you told me that it was going to be Brooks and John Rahm, and then Morikawa, Hovland, Jason Day, Sam Burns, Jordan Spieth, Phil Mickelson's in the top 10. The only problem is those guys, Phil, for example, he's eight strokes back. So I just don't know. Zero chance. Zero chance. Phil Mickelson.


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[Assistant] I would agree with you, but that seems premature. I mean, again, I would agree with you, but he's also one of those guys that's finished up his two rounds. He's 71, 69. He's sitting at home on the couch. He gets to kind of prop his feet up. And a lot of those guys in that top 10 that I just named,


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[Assistant] Are the few that aren't Cameron Young still has to finish his round, Victor Hovland still has to finish his round and John Rahm. So they will have to sort of bring this to the house.


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[Assistant] But again, if we were sitting down at the beginning of the week coming up with best case scenarios, I guess Rory Patrick Reed would have been in the conversation just because of the chaos of it all. But this is about as good as it gets.


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[Assistant] I'm going to do the cliched sports radio thing here and which one of these two things surprised you the most? Phil Mickelson, as I just said, inside the top 10 at the masters after, I mean, let's face it, it's been a lackluster two years, at least a year, right? Since he joined live golf.


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[Assistant] Well, it's going to be difficult, so you're right. Things could go backwards. I guess that's being fair. You're right. It could go backwards. That seems highly unlikely. And I do want to clean this up from last night's podcast because I did have a chance to think about it. This is, and I will grant you arguably,


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[Assistant] The most important round of Roy McElroy's year. I think that's probably a better way of saying it. I probably exaggerated it last night. And for all the reasons I said last night though, I mean, because if you look at what he was doing Thursday, we all know what his record is.


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[Assistant] And again, this goes back to what we saw, what we thought we knew coming into this, that he had complete control of his game, that this was not a physical conversation at all, that from the swing perspective and the putting perspective and short game that he had everything in place.


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[Assistant] Chef's kiss. He was going to do this. The only thing that was going to hold him back is mentally. And I keep coming back to that. Like there is nothing that he did over the last two days that has anything to do


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[Assistant] With his ability to swing the golf clubs or his ability to putt. It has everything to do with what this is to him. And it's such a huge mental hurdle. That's obvious.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe, and I don't know, look, I don't pretend, I mean, Dr. Bob is a legend and I don't pretend to know his job, but man, like when, when he gets done and let's say Roy does miss the cut as we feel like you do, I mean, I think Dr. Bob's got to be the one that goes and looks himself in the mirror like before.


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[Assistant] I have no idea what I did there. Like that, that did not play out well at all because he had it all. I will keep going back to the idea that physically watching him at the match play that looked like the Rory that won the PG at Kiwa where he was hitting the driver on a rope. He was putting lights out. I mean, it was just a phenomenal performance. He didn't win, but that's sort of.


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[Assistant] The vagaries of Matt's play I sort of wrote that off to. There is no way that I could have seen this coming. I could have seen, and I picked Scotty, so I didn't pick Roy to win. I could have seen him.


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[Assistant] Finishing middle of the pack. Again, getting off to a poor start and then doing what he normally does on the weekend, which is play well and maybe get that back door top 10, maybe even another back door runner up finish. I didn't see this man. I just didn't see it.


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[Assistant] Butch Harman told me under the tree just two days ago, like, he's gonna win the Masters. And Butch Harman doesn't do that. Not even with players he works with and he doesn't work with Rory. I mean, that's how much confidence he has in him.


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[Assistant] Now, before we get out of here, I just want to say two things. One, we catch a lot of heat. You guys don't see behind the scenes, obviously, during Live From. But when we do the early Live From with Steve Sands, there's a lot of back and forth.


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[Assistant] With him about the podcast because he thinks it's funny. He thinks it's snarky. I think he should come on the podcast, but I don't think that's going to happen, but I would.


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[Assistant] I would encourage everybody to reach out to him and tell him that he really needs to join us on the podcast number one.


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[Assistant] I mean, if only we could, I mean, I would never give out his email account, but you know, it would be something.


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[Assistant] I mean, that seems to be what we do. So, I mean, I wouldn't give Steve's out, but that's mine in case you guys want to email me in case you want, but it's just, it would be our Hogwarts at golf channel.com or, you know, our lab there at golf channel.com, whatever. I mean, you guys do what you want to do, but I don't want to give his email address out. That wouldn't be cool, but he did bring up a really good point this morning and you mentioned Sam Bennett.


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[Assistant] That's tough. I was taken by something that Rory said yesterday and I guess I hadn't really put much thought into it that if you're, you're running, you're chasing from behind, which everyone's going to be doing with Brooks going in to the weekend, you want the harder conditions. If it's easy, everyone can play well. So you want the harder conditions.


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[Assistant] So they're going to get that Jordan and anyone else that wants to make up ground is going to get the tougher conditions. And if they play well, shoot 66, you're going to make up a lot of ground. You still got to do it. And man, those are going to be hard to come by on the week.


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[Assistant] Uh, Judge ruled today it actually vacated the original trial date. So the original trial date was January 2024, which seems like a long ways away, but keep in mind that was an expedited trial date, because uhm, the argument was in the antitrust case that these players need to have a trial as quickly as possible to get this resolved. She vacated it essentially because of,


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[Assistant] This is going to go to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and this could take years, years, and it could end up in the U.S. Supreme Court. So we're no closer to resolution now, but the news today was that they vacated the trial day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would think they would take one for sure this year. I mean, Jacoby Ross said, I think they're comfortable with him if he has a start this season. Uh, he's proven he could be a good spot starter and even keep you, you know, competitive while you try to bring up the young guy. But I think this is a scenario, depending how the draft board falls.


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[Assistant] We kind of all assume it's going to be Caleb and Jayden at the one and two picks. They're not in love with Drake May to your point. Well, I could see them trading back and maybe even taking a feeling on somebody like Spencer Rattler on day two to sit behind, uh, Jacoba reset. So, uh, just imagine if they were able to trade back and get.


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[Assistant] You know, a blue chip tackle and a blue chip receiver. I think that's a great draft for the Patriots and then, you know, try to attack that quarterback in the second round.


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[Assistant] I think all three are going to draft the quarterback to be honest with you. It just depends on could the Minnesota Vikings get in that top tier that you have at the top? Well, we can talk about those top three teams. I mean, there's been rumors that Chicago and the commanders have listened to calls, but they're going to stay pat. I think that's why I think the Patriots are a wild card. Could the Minnesota Vikings depend on.


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[Assistant] What type of draft capital is it? You know, three first round picks to move up from 11 to three to try to get, you know, their quarterback in the future, whether it's Drake May or if they're, you know, touting JJ McCarthy. When you look at the Raiders, I think they are going to take a quarterback, especially if a guy like Michael Pinnix gets past 12.


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[Assistant] I think it makes too much sense. I think it'd be perfect in that offense with them trying to throw the football down the field. And I saw Brady earlier on HQ and agree with a lot of things he said, like honestly.


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[Assistant] Michael Pinnix is my QB3. I know people will bring up the medical issues, but if you're going off the tape, there's no way with your own two eyes, you can't say he's not quarterback three based on the film, right? He's the best deep ball thrower in this draft. I love how he processed. I think he's the best processor in this draft as well. So I think it makes a lot of sense for the Raiders. Now, do they have to get aggressive?


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[Assistant] And maybe try to jump the Denver Broncos in case Sean Payton wants to take a guy like Michael Pinnix. That is the question.


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[Assistant] I think with the Denver Broncos, yes, they did just trade for Zach Wilson. I don't think that absolves them at all from taking the quarterback. Would JJ McCarthy be a good fit? There's been rumors that Bo Nicks makes a lot of sense, but.


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[Assistant] Probably way too high to take them at pick number 12. Could they try to trade back and maybe get bow necks at the end of the first or early second if they get that draft capital. So I honestly think all three quarterbacks, I mean all three teams by the second round will take a quarterback.


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[Assistant] That's the only question I would have on that, just because what if JJ McCarthy ends up being the guy that ends up taking it to you for the next 10 to 15 years. So I get on one, one point Brady, because they.


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[Assistant] They need to get cheap labor, right? So trading back and getting a lot of Ricky players makes a lot of sense for the charters, but I would find it hard pressed for them to trade it within the division. We do see it now. We saw it with the Detroit Lions and also Minnesota with TJ Hawkinson, which I thought was a surprise. You train a guy to a divisional foe, but it's rare. Like you don't see it that often.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I think the Giants are definitely gonna take one, and Brady, you know this, and you can speak to this.


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[Assistant] New head coaches and GMs always want to have their handprint or attached to a quarterback of their own picking. And the Giants have not been able to do that with GM Joe Shane and Brian Dable. Remember, Daniel Jones was kind of adopted to them. So like.


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[Assistant] See your point Brady, if a quarterback falls or even if they get aggressive and try to move up to four, essentially, depending on what the Cardinals want to do, I can see them for sure selecting a quarterback. Uh, me and Brady did a mock drive about three weeks ago and I actually had Michael Pinnix going to the Dallas Cowboys. So I thought that made a lot of sense with Dak being in this last year. Uh, another rumor I've been hearing.


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[Assistant] The Atlanta Falcons could be a sneaky team, which I know is crazy because they just pay Kirk Cousins, you know, 50 million a year for two years. But just imagine a guy being able to sit behind Kirk Cousins for two years, if they're able to maybe trade back a couple of spots and take a quarterback. And I heard they've done extensive work.


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[Assistant] I think they're a, a, a wild card, sneaky team that could maybe, you know, they've been, everybody's mocked them taking a edge guy. I think they could be a sneaky team to potentially take a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Well, nah, you, nah, you wouldn't need more picks than that. Somebody, the funny thing is, Brenton, somebody brought this up on my SiriusXM show the other day. It was a Minnesota Vikings fan. They were like, well, you know, Jim Harbaugh really loves JJ McCarthy. What if we package a deal to send Justin Herbert and the Vikings give up, you know, like their next, like three first round picks. And I'm like, I think Russell Wilson went for three for Justin Herbert. You might need.


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[Assistant] But the cap ramifications, I don't know how that would work with Herbert's deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if, if I'm them, they gotta throw in a Reef too, in that deal. We want a right tackle. You want Herbert, we want, we want Reef, and we want- When did you get your right tackle, 11?


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[Assistant] O'Neal, my bad. I said Reeve. We want O'Neal. We want O'Neal and Justin Jefferson plus two first round picks.


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[Assistant] He's got an affinity for Troy Franklin too, and I'm like, he's still gonna go second round. How you gonna put him on a better team? He's still going higher in the draft.


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[Assistant] Well, he may be going to top 10, uh, depending on positional value, right? And it's Byron Murphy. So it's funny that we were just talking about him. I think he's going to be a sure fire star to me. He's the best defensive prospect in this draft class. When you talk about first step.


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[Assistant] Exposiveness, you talk about playing with great leverage, lateral quickness. And Brady, you notice as a quarterback, quarterbacks hate interior pass rush. And that's what Byron Murphy gives you. And he's just relentless. I mean, when you turn on the film, this dude just never stopped. So honestly think, uh, you know, we were talking about Atlanta at eight. Could they take an edge rusher potentially trade back?


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[Assistant] I wouldn't even be mad if they took Byron Murphy, cause I think he's a top 10 player in this draft. Grady Jarrett's getting up there too.


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[Assistant] I don't even think he's going to Detroit. Uh, go ahead, go ahead. Oh no, no, go ahead, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Yes, I don't think he's going to Detroit, but I just wanted to piggyback off of the same position that my favorite player in this draft is in this rake straw. I just love the mentality that he plays with the it's rare Brady that you find.


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[Assistant] A quarterback be a tone setter on defense, but that's exactly what he is. I mean, he shows up.


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[Assistant] And run support and he doesn't have the production when it comes to interceptions, but he uses that physical and aggressive mentality when attacking the ball in the air, as far as PBU. So I think he's going to be able to be a starter day one in the slot.


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[Assistant] I have him as a first round pick. Uh, some people don't. It just depends on some of those teams in the back half of the draft where they look at the Green Bay Packers, you know, the Philadelphia Eagles. Could those teams take a fire on him at the back of the first round?


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[Assistant] Who you taking? Jaden Daniels. I think this has been a long time coming. Not as long as Caleb going one overall. But, you know, with offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsberry being there, I just think it makes a lot of sense.


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[Assistant] Jaden Daniels skillset. Now, some weird reports coming out of there with the 22 guys they had to visit all at one time and supposedly Jaden Daniels agent didn't like that. Jaden hasn't come out and said anything, but I just think it makes too much sense. I don't think that's going to deter the commanders from taking Jaden Daniels too overall.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and there's rumors he's not going to take any calls until draft day to maximize what they could potentially get to potentially move back. But I think with a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr. on the board, you need somebody to be a true ex-receiver out there for Kyle Murray. I think he's just too good of a prospect to trade back unless it's just a boatload of picks for somebody trying to get up.


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[Assistant] For a quarterback, so I think the Cardinals stay Pat and take Marvin Harrison Jr. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yes, I know they could take a receiver here, but I just think with Joe Shane and Brian Dable not having their hand print on a quarterback get and selecting one, I think it makes too much sense for them to take JJ McCarthy in this spot. All right.


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[Assistant] Well, you gotta think about it. Just last year, the Patriots gave up only a fourth to move up two spots. We're not moving up from like eight or nine spots like Brady was. We're moving up two spots. So, I mean, put it in a simulator and see if it makes sense. We want to give up, pick 135 and 186 of this year's draft to see if we can move up two spots. Oh yeah. Let's see.


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[Assistant] When you're only moving up two spots, you only have to give up around a fourth round pick. So, um, yes, we know Malik neighbors are still on the board and Roma doomsday and this would be.


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[Assistant] Great for the jet. You would think if it actually happens like this on draft day, but I think.


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[Assistant] The jets are more concerned about the bears essentially taking Roma dunes. So they trade up with the Atlanta Falcons and take Roma dunes a with the number eight overall pick.


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[Assistant] Still gets your guy. Yeah, Dallas Turner. I know everybody's mocked him to him. We were just talking about this Brady would not be surprised if Byron Murphy was like number six on their, you know, their, their big board that they take Byron Murphy, but I'm going to go with the edge guy. Cause I think.


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[Assistant] He fits in Raheem Morris's scheme perfectly, what he's going to ask his edge guys to do in regards to dropping and getting after the quarterback. So Dallas Turner, you know, we gained some draft capital, just moved two spots back and we still get our guy.


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[Assistant] But I also think he's athletic enough where you may be able to try him at left tackle too.


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[Assistant] You gotta start typing it in as the names go. We are.


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[Assistant] So if you're Denver Brady and you're in this scenario, you're going to try like hell to trade back, right? The only thing is when you look at the next couple of teams behind you, there's still a lot of good offensive tackles. Most teams try to try to trade up for tackles. Top three receivers are gone. So you might be stuck at this spot and not be able to trade back if you're the Denver Broncos.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take one of the best edge rushers because I think they need some help on the edge. I'm going to take Jared verse.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so when you look at this Brady, I think there could be upwards to eight, maybe even scratching nine off with some tackles off the board, but they're all kind of in tears. Uh, and most of the top tier ones are gone except for one.


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[Assistant] And the same scene in the office of tackle in the worst way. Ryan Ramchak most likely won't be able to start the season because of injury and Troy, uh, Trevor Penning is really start struggling.


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[Assistant] I'm going to go Troy Fontenot out of Washington, a guy that has position and flexibility, but I believe he could be a really good offensive tackle in the league.


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[Assistant] Brock Bauer is starting to fall. I mean, I think this is the area where he might actually get taken though.


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[Assistant] You're the Seahawks, Deuce. I'm taking the best defensive player in the draft. He's still on the board right now. Brian Murphy.


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[Assistant] Could go offensive line. They did sign Trent Brown to a one year deal, but they could still use an offensive tackle. Could go corner here as well. They do have DJ Turner who had some struggles last year and I love Taylor Britt on the other side. They still got Mike Hilton in the inside, but I think they could use a corner too.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to go Terry on Arnold for the Bengals at 18.


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[Assistant] And the Steelers are probably going to run this in. I'm thinking Brian Thomas at receiver for the Pizzicato.


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[Assistant] There's been some rumors, Brady, that he might slip. There could potentially be something with his knee and then some, some off the field stuff, but talent wise.


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[Assistant] I thought he was late twenties. Nah, he's, I'm definitely not taking Brock Bowers here.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. I thought he was in his twenties. Yeaah. You trippin'. Uhm, the Philadelphia Eagles had a debacle in the secondary last year. You know, their corners are getting up there. You want to talk about age. Their corners are getting up there.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with a guy that has position flexibility in Cooper DeGene who can play safety, who can play corner, who can play in the slot as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, they definitely need some help on the offensive line. Could go Graham Barton who has position flexibility, but I'm going to go Amaris Mims, right? Because it'll allow you Tyler Smith to keep him at guard, which I think he can be, ain't no thing. He's been a all pro guard. He could be a really good tackle, but I think he's an all pro guard. So I'm going to go Amaris Mims. Amarius Mims.


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[Assistant] Well, our producer Harry wanted this guy with the Miami Dolphins, but I think he would be a perfect fit with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Lattu Lattu to me has a veteran type game already. Probably the best.


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[Assistant] Edge guy in regards to rushing with a plan and has the best hand usage in this draft. Now the big question within Brady is the medical. Anytime you get a neck fusion, you know, people are going to question how long are you going to be healthy enough to play this game? But if everything clears out, I have no problem around this part of the draft taking lots of.


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[Assistant] All right. I mean, that's up to me. That's actually a good spot. The OC, it comes from Cleveland and it's the Faskey tree. So they like, like you said, Brendan, they liked it too tight and said, so I think him and Trey McBride would fit perfectly together in Arizona. All right. You're up with the bills, dudes.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, Harry hit the receiver tab for me real quick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna, I know people expect the bills to take receiver, but just listening to Brandon Bean the other day, if they don't trade up, I could see them passing on a receiver at this spot just because I think they need help on the edge as well. I think Chop Robinson makes a lot of sense for the bills.


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[Assistant] You know, my guy Von Miller's getting up there in age, uh, who better to learn behind for a year and then eventually take over. I know they got Russo and I think they re-signed Epineza, but I think they can use a little bit more juice on the edge.


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[Assistant] You still want the trade? Or you gonna take that corner?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think I know where I want to go here, but I just want Harry to hit that office with a tackle tab just to make sure my guy is still there. Yeah. Tyler guidance. I think he fits perfectly with what the Baltimore Ravens want to do. Morgan Moses got traded away. Now they did take Daniel Falele a few years ago, but I think Tyler guidance has a higher upside than him.


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[Assistant] So, so many ways they could go, they could go off of some tackle here. They can go receiver. Could Carolina in this instance, Brady try to call them and move up just in case they want a receiver.


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[Assistant] But because you have Patrick Mahomes, I think a more, you know.


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[Assistant] Significant need for this team is offensive tackle. I'm going Jordan Morgan, uh, to lock up that left side. Uh, I think he'll have a really good camp battle with Juanye Morris to determine who's going to be the left tackle this year. Both of those tackles struggled last year in the chief system. I think Jordan Morgan makes too much sense. The last pick of the first round.


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[Assistant] Well, Branson, I was going to say that I think it's simple math and I've, you know, been doing going to stuples for 10 years like you, you've been going longer, but I feel like it's a combination of you don't get any sleep.


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[Assistant] You're, you're working way more hours than usual and then you throw a few drinks in there and your body just, your body just gives up on you.


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[Assistant] So we need to stay away from you during the zombie apocalypse. Is that what you're saying?


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[Assistant] They, we're recording this at 2 PM Eastern. They're, the numbers have not been released yet. We only touched that for a brief second, but they have to be monstrous. I mean.


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[Assistant] Close game the whole time, overtime. Uh, crazy, yeaah, controversial, yeaah. I was just gonna say, I think it will break.


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[Assistant] All right. Most importantly, both teams get at least one possession. So if the four diners had scored a touchdown, the game would not have been over. The chiefs would have been guaranteed.


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[Assistant] I think that part is pretty clear. The second part, this is where I saw the most confusion, whether this was on uh, Twitter, whether this was just talking to people over the past 24 hours getting texts, is that the clock did not matter. If the Chiefs had not scored on that final play with 3 seconds left,


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[Assistant] Uh, Brenton, I'm glad you brought that play up because I think that is really the key to this whole thing. They were in their own territory at that point. They were at their own 34 yard line. They obviously couldn't punt.


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[Assistant] But if they had gotten the ball first, you're putting there, you don't have a choice.


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[Assistant] That's the difference right there. If you get the ball first, you have fourth and one of your own 34, you are putting because if you don't get it, the other team's already in field goal range and they can win it with a field goal. Uh, whereas if you are the team that has the ball second, you're going for it there because you don't have a choice.


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[Assistant] So that, I mean, to me that one play was the huge kind of play you can point to, to why having the ball second is more important.


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[Assistant] I'll say one thing real quick, and it's that, it doesn't make any sense to me to be playing for this imaginary third possession. This is like me, if I told my wife, hey, you know what, if we ever have 50 million dollars, we're gonna go buy a mansion. Uh, that's, that's a great promise.


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[Assistant] But if we never have 50 million dollars, that promise doesn't mean anything. It's just...


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[Assistant] So you're playing for this possession that might not ever happen. And you look at what, what are the options in overtime? If you get the ball first.


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[Assistant] And you punt. Now the Chiefs just need a field goal to win. They have Patrick Mahomes and one of the three best kickers in the NFL.


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[Assistant] If you kick a field goal, now the Chiefs can go drive a touchdown to win the game. If you score a touchdown, I think Chris Jones said that same ringer story that Andy Reid pretty much said they would go for two.


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[Assistant] In that situation to make sure the other team didn't get a third possession. So the chiefs would have done everything possible to make sure a third possession didn't happen. So in that case, it just seems like it favored the chiefs by far to have the ball second.


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[Assistant] Not a good look, not a good look. An interesting question here though that, uh, producer Harry mentioned, and I think it's really fascinating is what do you think the breakdown would have been with other coaches in the NFL? Cause keep in mind this was the first time this overtime


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[Assistant] Has ever happened because it's only in the playoffs. They only implement it in 2022 and this is the first postseason overtime game we've gotten since they started it. So this was the first time any coach had to make this decision. Do you think most coaches would have taken the ball second and that Shana hands the odd ball or?


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[Assistant] Do you think that they would have followed his steps and taken it first?


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[Assistant] I will say one thing though that I think it took whatever 40 years, 50 years, but I think the NFL finally hit a home run with their overtime rule. This seems like the right decision. Obviously you don't want to do this in the regular season because you don't need to drag out games, but for a game.


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[Assistant] I love overtime. I hope we see more overtime and more Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] I think the thing that blows my mind here is that we're talking, that Patrick Bahomes is so good, the talking point isn't


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[Assistant] That he led a game winning Super Bowl drive.


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[Assistant] In overtime and that he went 8 of 8 for 42 yards on the drive and that he also ran the ball twice for 27 yards and he's so good. That's an afterthought. That's like what we expect from Patrick Mahomes and we're sitting here debating Kyle Shanahan. But I think that listening to Mahomes' comments, that just really reminds me of


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[Assistant] Except for maybe Michael Hardman who, uh, my home said he had to help him celebrate and remind him that they had just won the game. But Michael did say on Twitter that he did know the rules. He just was blacked out and shocked that he had just won the Superbowl. Uh, but yeah, so that that's really what it reminds me of. So it just, that's what a great coach does. He makes sure everyone's prepared for every situation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, it's one thing about we're talking about me, Cole Hardman saying he blacked out and didn't realize what was going on after he scored the touchdown. He just threw the football on the ground and it rolled off and I don't know who has this football. I want to know who has this football because that is a hell of a souvenir because look.


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[Assistant] At the Superbowl last year, we had Harrison Bucker kick the ball over the kicking net. A fan caught it and took it home. He went home with the game winning football. And we might have a similar situation here with Nicole Hardman. Uh, but yeah, I mean, that's exactly, this was the exact performance the chiefs needed, not just from Nicole Hardman, but from


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[Assistant] Every single one of these wide receivers. I mean, we're talking about these guys that all year were dropping passes and my homes looked like he was gonna pull out all his hair because he was getting so frustrated with his receivers.


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[Assistant] But we see him go with zero drops in the AFC title game and they all came back with huge games here. He had six receivers who had at least three catches. He had seven who had at least 20 yards receiving. You get a guy like Justin Watson.


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[Assistant] He had a huge 21-yard catch on third down and nine, I think, at the end of the first half when they got that field goal, when they got their first point, which was their key, because no team had ever been shut out in a Super Bowl in the first half and then won the Super Bowl. Uh, we saw Rashid Rice come up with a huge third down plays, especially the one in overtime, caught a 13-yarder on third and six. Uh,


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[Assistant] MvS got the touchdown, one play after the fumbled punt to kinda make the, uh,


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[Assistant] 49ers pay for that. Jerick McKinnon cost a third down pass, uh, on the field goal drive at the end of the game when Harrison Bucker tied it. So it was just all these huge third down plays where earlier in the season, these guys were dropping the passes and for whatever reason, they put it together for these final two games of the season.


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[Assistant] Fine. And it was even setting it up that he might go under center and run a QB sneak. So if you're the, cause the chiefs have done that before in short situations. So now you have them kind of looking inside and worrying about that. They're worrying about Noah Gray. The last thing they were worrying about was Patrick Mahomes taking off. I mean, it was insane play design.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like his overtime drive kind of epitomized his entire game. You went 4-6 for 50 yards and looked pretty sharp. But then when Shanahan said, Hey, we're going to put the ball in your hands on that third and four.


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[Assistant] Uh, let's convert this, let's go to get a touchdown and Purdy couldn't do it and they ended up kicking that field goal and overtime.


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[Assistant] Cause look, he had a huge fourth quarter, five, seven, 57 yards, one touchdown.


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[Assistant] Decent in overtime, but couldn't convert that third down, which was the huge play of the game, but I thought the one time.


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[Assistant] Where they really needed Purdy and he didn't come through was really the entire third quarter because after Patrick Mahomes threw that interception on the Chief's opening possession,


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[Assistant] You're the 49ers. You get the ball at the Chief's 44 yard line. If you get just a field goal there, you're up two scores in the third quarter, which is exactly where


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[Assistant] You want to be and they didn't even, you only need a few yards to get in field goal range. Probably five yards get you in field goal range because we saw Jake Moody hit a 55 yarder in that game. They couldn't even get five yards and so.


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[Assistant] Purdy in that third quarter went 4 of 10 for 25 yards. Uh, if you score there, as I said, you're up two scores.


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[Assistant] But then they got the ball again and they were still up 10-3 and they still couldn't do anything. So if they could have scored anything in the quarter, that would have been their chance to step on Kansas City's jugular and kind of probably almost put the game away. It's Patrick Mahomes, you never know.


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[Assistant] But they didn't do it just because that was when their offense stagnated. They kind of gave up on Christian McCaffrey in third quarter, put it in Purdy's hands and he didn't do anything.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that was because I kind of brought that up last night with Hal, the last two Super Bowls, you know, he's only averaged three points per fourth quarter, nine last night, but.


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[Assistant] Zero in the Falcons game, zero in Super Bowl 54, and that's not going to cut it when you're playing the best teams and you're going to be playing the best teams in the Super Bowl. And the only thing I would say about the Dan Quinn versus Kyle Shanahan thing is I feel like Shanahan is getting grilled because he's been in this situation so many times when you saw him.


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[Assistant] When he blows a 10 point lead in Super Bowl 54, when he blows a 10 point lead in the NFC title game and then blows another 10 point lead in Super Bowl, if Dan Quinn in five years gets to two more Super Bowls and blows two double digit leads, we will be talking a lot about how he blew the lead.


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[Assistant] And, you know, it's just bad that Kyle Shanahan is the only one that's made it this far. Uh, and fair or unfair, that's, that's the label you're going to get is the guy that just can't win the big game.


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[Assistant] You know, do you think Shanahan is going to watch this film and think that Brock Purdy made all the great decisions or, you know, Shanahan has a wandering eye when it comes to a quarterback. Do you think this will be the off season where he finally does not have a wandering eye because he's happy with how Brock Purdy ran offense and Brock Purdy was awesome this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you get Tom Brady, you get Tom Brady, it makes sense, but he did at least, he thought, hey, what if Brock's elbow doesn't heal fast? Why don't we see if we, Tom Brady wants to play for us.


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[Assistant] This Superloss Purdy played a B plus football, he looked good, as Wilson said, nobody, or Brintz, both of you guys said it, this is just not.


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[Assistant] Uh, he didn't win the game for them, but he didn't lose the game for them. Yeah. And it's not Purdy's fault that poor Anderson didn't win.


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[Assistant] I'll say that losing Drake Greenlaw definitely didn't help. He was having a fantastic game. I think that was, and that was an absolute freak injury. That was the crazy part that you're just kind of jockeying back out onto the field and to just fall over and tear your achilles. I mean, how does that even happen? And that happened, uh,


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[Assistant] With I think about nine minutes left in the first half. So that's, that's tough when you're losing one of your three best defensive players and you're not going to have them for two and a half quarters. So I thought that one probably hurt the 49ers the most.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Fred Warner looking at it like he couldn't believe what just happened. I mean, it really was one of those bizarre injuries, uh, we've ever seen, especially on the stage. I mean, it was just crazy. It was just a non-contact running back on the field.


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[Assistant] Guys, we're talking about my favorite topic, special teams. I feel like we rarely get to talk about this, especially after a big, you, you guys pushed me in the corner. We talk, you always give me my time to talk about it, but it's about 10 seconds.


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[Assistant] Breach, you made me talk about special teams. I hate talking about special teams. So shout out Brady.


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[Assistant] Look, this was one of those games. We saw kickers dominate. We saw punters dominate. We saw one special teams play kind of swing things for the Chiefs. Uh, and they played a huge part in this game. And, uh, Wilson, I'll ask you first. Do you think this was the great special team Superbowl of all time?


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[Assistant] Brinson, were you bored, or did you find it fascinating that for the first three and a half quarters this really felt like a kickers duel, uh, with a little offense sprinkled in there?


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[Assistant] I'll say this about Moody's game. I would give him an A- because A, he did become the first kicker in NFL history to make multiple 50-yard field goals in a Super Bowl. When you're kicking from beyond 50 yards in a Super Bowl,


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[Assistant] The, the career percentage of every kicker ever in Super Bowl history was 46.7% going into that game. So what's a coin flip? So the fact that he made two of those.


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[Assistant] Uh, that means the 49ers got points that most people aren't going to get there. I think that making both of those makes up for the blocked extra point. Even if he hits the extra point, it's 17-13. Does anyone not think that


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[Assistant] My homes doesn't go down and get a touchdown and then Moody kicks a field and then we go to overtime at 20 to 20 instead of 19 to 19. So I'm not going to crush Moody just because he hit the two 50 yarders. I'm not going to crush him over the extra point.


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[Assistant] We talked about Bucker for a while last night with the four field goals, including the longest in Super Bowl history at 57. Uh, and as I said, if he had hit the game winner, uh, I do think he would have been MVP, but obviously that didn't happen. I do think Mahomes deserved it. And the one thing I did go back and watch,


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[Assistant] Uh, because I couldn't just remember how it happened was the 49ers fumble.


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[Assistant] And who was to blame there? And after watching it, I really think it was on Ray Ray McLeod. Darrell Luthor, he's the one who got hit by the ball. But when you're the returner, you were the only guy on the return team who was watching the football.


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[Assistant] The looter is your blocker. He is trying to protect you. He has no idea where the football is. If the football is landing short, the returner is supposed to yell, Peter, Peter, Peter, and kind of point to where the ball is landing so that his teammates can disengage from their blocks and get out of the way so that something like that doesn't happen. Looter literally has no idea where the football is going to fall.


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[Assistant] Sometimes in high school and college, you'll see guys on the sideline yell, Peter, Peter, Peter, and point to the football so that it does not hit the defenders. Uh, so it's hard to blame a guy who had no idea where the football was going to fall. It's not like he tried to pick it up and run away. Then obviously McLeod had to try and pick it up after it hit looter's foot. So I'm not sure you can blame looter a ton for that. It was just.


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[Assistant] Completely bad luck. And finally, last thing I'll say, uh,


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[Assistant] Tommy Townsend, absolutely an unsung hero. Wilson, you mentioned his hold on a 57 yard field goal last night. I didn't get a good luck at it last night. Went back, not a great snap. He got it down, uh, and obviously that was a huge kick in the game. He also had a 62 yard punt that got downed inside of


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[Assistant] Uh, the 49ers 20 yard line, so we flipped the field there. In the fourth quarter, he had a 53 yard punt from his own 11 that kind of flipped the field again. So Townsend, Harrison Bucker, and then the fumbled punt, uh, it was just a crazy special teams performance by the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] And as we said, the chief scorer touched down one play later after that fumble with, uh, Holmes to MBS. So that was, that was a huge part of it.


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[Assistant] I don't think Kelsey or, and maybe they did briefly think about retirement, but I think Andy Reid, it's pretty clear Travis Kelsey.


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[Assistant] I think winning this part is part of that drive where we can do something that no team in NFL history has ever done. And so now you come back and you feel like you have a real good chance because


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[Assistant] They got dominated by the Chiefs in the postseason. You really look around and of course I can say


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[Assistant] There's only one active quarterback in the NFL right now who has beaten Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game, and that's Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow's got to prove he can stay healthy. So he can't just keep missing games, uh, and, and expect that the Bengals are going to be awesome. If the Bengals are healthy, they can compete with the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Who knows? So right now the Chiefs are the top of the class in AFC and there's no reason they can't win a third one.


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[Assistant] I would say year two is going to be good for her because now it's been normalized that she's at games. We've gotten all this coverage in year one. They won the super bowl. It does not get any bigger than that. And I think next season will be.


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[Assistant] Commonplace and so when she shows up again, she's obviously going to be shown because she's Taylor Swift with people aren't going to.


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[Assistant] I think she's going to be more comfortable attending games and mingling with everybody. And as we said in the Super Bowl, she looked like she was enjoying herself.


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[Assistant] Uh, except, you know, when it was close and she was biting her nails, but Taylor Swift looks like a legit NFL fan. I think she's here for the long haul. And I think we'll see her at a bunch of games next year. And as you said, just said, Wilson, if they're engaged, that adds, that could change things because then it becomes like a pre-wedding tour.


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[Assistant] If that is the case, then you know, then that excitement returns and they're going to celebrate every time she's in the stadium next year. And that's all anyone's going to want to talk about. So I think that would be the twist where this year two would be bigger than year one if Travis and Taylor are engaged.


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[Assistant] And it was awesome to see them out on the strip celebrating Sunday night, uh, drinking, having fun.


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[Assistant] Travis Kelsey went up to the DJ booth and was singing some Taylor Swift songs, which I think everyone thought was hilarious. That's what you want to see though. And look, she doesn't get to go out in public. Think of all the pictures you've seen with Taylor Swift with past boyfriends. They're from six miles away because the paparazzi are using their zoom cams because


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[Assistant] Taylor Swift was in a bubble. She didn't get to live her life. And now with Travis Kelsey, she gets to live this life and, and be out in the public eye and enjoy herself, which is something that she just really didn't seem like she got for the past.


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[Assistant] Definitely. Well, uh, I picked up my dog, George, George and I both took a nap and George was snoring so loud that he actually, uh, overpowered my alarm. And that's why.


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[Assistant] All that great momentum they had going into the playoffs and it comes to a screeching halt. Why? Patrick Holmes or the Kansas City Chiefs and will they?


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[Assistant] The core talent that they have there, to me, deserve, you know, you can see the big under 10 to 1. Did I, did I miss, did I miss pick teams? No.


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[Assistant] You gotta beat somebody good for, you know, for anyone to believe in what Miami's gonna do.


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[Assistant] I didn't think he was that tight with Mike McCarthy. Uhm, you know, he has, Mike said we have long time ties to Dallas and Jerry Jones as well. You sorta wonder.


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[Assistant] Katie mentioned some long shot bets to make. We can't make the pick six parlay this week because. Never won by the way.


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[Assistant] That's right, that's right. But you couldn't fade it. It kind of like really close to winning every, every week. And it was a good effort.


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[Assistant] Super Bowl 59 Long Shot Sabres brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Let's look at some teams with 20 to one or longer odds. We think every shot at making it to Super Bowl 59. RJ, you sort of referenced it. The teams everybody wants to talk about. You love to talk about this team, don't you?


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[Assistant] I think the text is really interesting because I'm curious what RJ thinks. Well, you know, we can sort of touch on it, I guess, in the next segment, but uhm.


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[Assistant] It's like a vinty green tea with like lemon and like, I'm trying it man, I'm trying. I can't, I can't do anything. Uhm. Need honey. Yeah. Yeah, I've got some honey. I've got a little bear.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, but I think, look, the Rams have a lot of good defensive pieces. Uhm, Kirby Turner obviously was, sort of, could have been involved, could have been more involved as the, the offense, the defensive rookie of the year, excuse me. And I just think they've got a lot of young talent, more young talent that people give them credit for. I think the Rams will be involved in playoff for, plus the Niners, much like


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[Assistant] Uh, this pick six, uh, Super Bowl Finale Longshot segment has been brought to you by Fandel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. All right, let's talk overall about this third tier of teams too. Uh, there's some more teams that interest me. RJ, I'm curious though, the Houston Texans, they have an elite quarter, elite second year quarterback.


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[Assistant] And, uh, what looks like a really good young head coach. They retain, uh, Bobby sloak, which was huge for them. And the development of CJ Stroud says a lot about how Bobby sloak feels about to Mika Ryan's for him to come back. Um, there's a ton of really.


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[Assistant] My dog is alive when I get on this podcast. It's a wet. I mean, my god. I'm just kidding. I think I'm snoring. Uh, yeah, I think we're just right. I think that with the interest in Aaron Rodgers, when it comes to


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[Assistant] The off season and how much he will naturally insert himself into the conversation this off season that the odds will probably drop. And if, you know, if he looks good, uh, in OTAs, you'll see that shift. So if you're going to buy now would be the time to buy, you know, you have to think they'd know what they've had to know. They've got to improve the offensive line.


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[Assistant] But Bill Balachek is the GOAT and replacing him isn't going to be easy even with a rookie quarterback. You know, we mentioned the questions with the Dolphins and the Bills as well.


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[Assistant] I think that's the, uh, I think that's the case for sure. Uhm, Chicago, like, you know, here's the thing, when we talk about


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. I think that with, um, Falcons, Raheem Morris.


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[Assistant] Pretty good defensive coordinator, had a bad run at Washington, but I mean, like that's two good coordinators that are flying under the radar. Robinson could get this offense going. If they find a quarterback early in the draft, I think Atlanta could certainly win a very bad division and be sort of a surprise team. And then Indianapolis, they were a playoff team basically with Shane Steichen and Gordon Mitchell.


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[Assistant] Cousins is probably going to come back to Minnesota, although you could certainly sign elsewhere. I just think the nature of the injury and the timing and everything, he's more than likely to come back. And so I think that, um, if Cousins returns,


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[Assistant] And if he returned quickly, then you know, it's a team that can compete in that division. Uh, Kevin Mcconnell has shown that he's a very good head coach. I mentioned Pete Prisco multiple times earlier. He is a piece of trash. So.


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[Assistant] All right, so deep, deep teams to win the, the fifth, uh, tier. And I actually think this is where RJ.


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[Assistant] That's Mike Tomlin. Brewer's an Ohio State guy. Mike Tomlin, other than the guys who coach at Ohio State or are from a player at Ohio State, Mike Tomlin knows Ohio State as well as any coach in the NFL.


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[Assistant] They got CJ Stroud. Everyone thought they wanted Bryce Young. Bryce Young, the consensus favorite top or consensus top prospect in that draft class.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, one of Jayden Daniels is this year's C.J. Shroud. Commanders take him second. And Dan Quinn, Dan Quinn's a good football coach.


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[Assistant] And he flips it around like, I don't, I don't, I don't think it's probably as likely. I don't think it's possible. I really think it's possible. It's not likely though, but I mean like, you know, I'm just saying like.


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[Assistant] It's not completely out of the realm of possibility. Go. Cliff Kingsbury comes in and you get a little offensive there. I don't know. Like we've, we've seen Dave Quinn turn things around before. I don't think, I think that would be my pick here.


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[Assistant] I do for the most part, yeaah. I think there's obviously, we've got some, uh, very deep quarterback class. Jaden Daniels to me, uh, because of his dual threat capabilities, is gonna have success right away. I agree with Emery, uh, if he, uh, winds up on a team like Washington, who's obviously struggled a lot recently, he could really turn around their, uh, fortune.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeaah, that would be a guy I would look at. I'd also look at someone like Michael Pennix as well. I think if he landed, let's say on Minnesota or Las Vegas.


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[Assistant] Uh, he be poised to have a potentially big impact as a rookie, but again, not knowing where these guys are ultimately.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, playing really is going to prevent me from, uh, you know, doing anything more than a sprinkle at this stage. I'd rather wait and see where they land, who's going to emerge, you know, as a clear cut starter. Love where, uh, RJ is looking at Brian Thomas as a potential value as well. I just think.


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[Assistant] Quite a bit better offensively, so I really like all the moves that Chicago made in the offseason, I think.


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[Assistant] Caleb is going to be in a position to have success right away. He'll also get a good feel to know, uh, you know, whether he's...


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[Assistant] Uh, the guy that they expect him to be. So love all of the moves. I would definitely lean over. I really think if he gets in 16, 17 games, uh, he's going to eclipse this total of 33, 3300 passing yards. So I typically.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeaah, it would definitely be over or nothing as far as I'm concerned.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is a market that I look to attack, uh, once we have a little bit more information or as close to the draft really as possible. I really just think there's such a potential wide range of outcomes, you know, really after Caleb Williams going first overall. Uh, I do think, uh, I wouldn't shock me whatsoever if New England traded out of pick three. I think that's.


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[Assistant] At least on the table and there's a certain likelihood where that happens. Uh, I also think there's a really good chance we see JJ McCarthy entering into the top three or going third overall as well. So I'd probably be looking at some


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[Assistant] Long shots, really, with Caleb obviously going first, and then second, Jaden Daniels, third, uh, JJ McCarthy, uh,


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[Assistant] Nothing that I see I did when I hit on a couple of things. So I do think, uh, to Emory's point, I know RJ, uh, likes this a bit as well because we've talked about this, uh, off stream is that I believe a lot of teams will have Malik neighbors as their number one wide receiver prospect over Marvin Harrison. Uh, I just think what he offers, you know, certain teams will fall in love.


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[Assistant] With his quick twitch, the explosiveness, uh, the ability to win downfield, the separation. Uh, so I've just been so impressed, uh, throughout this process, just, uh, learning more about Malik neighbors as a prospect, watching him. I firmly believe that quite a few teams, uh, will have him ahead of Marvin Harrison on their big board.


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[Assistant] Frankly, I think some teams may even have Marvin Harrison as their third wide receiver prospect potentially as well. I think there is a serious gap.


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[Assistant] Between the two, so I certainly think it's in play for Malik neighbors to go in the top five as early as fourth or even third overall, frankly, if a team decides to trade up. So I'm looking at these scenarios. I definitely am sprinkling on the likelihood of the potential, I should say, or the long shot potential of Malik neighbors potentially being drafted in that top five.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Certainly in the top five. Yeah, I think it really boils down to what teams are looking for. And I firmly believe that there are plenty of teams that will value sort of a skill set.


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[Assistant] That, uh, Malik Neighbors offers is pure, he's such an explosive prospect, athletically, uh, just so impressed with him. I look at Marvin Harrison, uh, he's a great prospect in his own right, more of a technician, uh, the route running, just doesn't have the, the, the same, you know, explosiveness downfield that a guy like Malik Neighbors has, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I do believe that there is value on Malik neighbors going top five. I think all bets are off the table as far as, uh, teams potentially trading up, uh, to land his services. And I think there's a strong likelihood, uh, that a high percentage of teams will have him rated as their number one wide receiver on their boards.


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[Assistant] Yes, as far as Bowers is concerned, I love him as a prospect. I don't really see, I see his, uh, ceiling basically going, you know, to the Jets at 10. I'd be shocked if he went higher than that.


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[Assistant] Uh, with Byron Murphy as a prospect, I think he's, uh, got a great chance to be the first defensive player drafted, uh, certainly in play in the top 10 as well. I also love Latou, what he brings. I think he's got a great chance to also be, uh, the first defensive player drafted. Uh, so rather than, you know, potentially


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[Assistant] Some of these guys are at least lot to, uh, and Murphy being a top 10 pick, I'd also look to potentially attack it from the standpoint of being the first defender, uh, off the board there. Uh, typically you can find greater odds, uh, on some of that, on that market versus just locking them in to pick eight, nine or 10.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeaah, I like Latsu, uh, potentially going to Atlanta as well as comparing him as a prospect. Uh, to Dallas Turner, I feel like if the medical, uh, wasn't, uh, the medical was really what's preventing Latsu from


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[Assistant] Production really hasn't caught up, uh, with some of his physical tools. So, uh, outside of the top 10, I'd be really looking to attack, at least with the defenders in this, uh, the first defender drafted, specifically pinpointing, uh, Byron Murphy Jr. and Latsu, as well as the two likeliest candidates.


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[Assistant] I had a pro day just a few weeks ago, uh, tested off the charts athletically. I love what he offers with his ability, uh, to play multiple positions, just tremendous versatility. Uh, reminds me a lot of Tyron Matthew, um, a bigger, uh, faster version of Tyron Matthew, just a very instinctive football player. You can line them up outside, inside.


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[Assistant] If you take him, I think he would be a tremendous fit there. Uh, but yeah, I just think Cooper DeGene offers so much versatility. He's going to make a huge impact. And I like his potential to potentially win, uh, the best player of the year, or rookie of the year.


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[Assistant] I think he's overrated as a prospect. I totally get what Emery is saying, but I just, uh, seen too many tea leaves in my opinion that suggests that he's going to be a top five pick. So I agree with RJ as far as the price point is concerned. Uh, nothing I'm looking to bet at at the current number. Uh, but I do ultimately think a team


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[Assistant] I do think it does make some sense, although I love Penix's chances to be a first round pick. Particularly, I think he has a great chance to go in the top 15 pick. It's been one of my favorite, uh, plays that I've been on, uh, over the last couple of weeks. It's just Penix landing, uh, in the first round, but I think he's just done so much to help his draft stock, uh, really over the last couple of months, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Did wonderful at the combine the private workout circuit as well did very well. He's met with the teams. I just heard, uh, just glowing feedback when teams have gotten a closer look or have them.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the building. So I just think with the amount of quarterback needy teams we have, particularly in that range, uh, an 11 to 15, uh, there are going to be teams that fall in love with Michael Pennix and I just think he's a great shot to go in the top 15. I think he's a near lock personally to be a first round pick. You're the one, you're the one.


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[Assistant] It's interesting to me, I think he's a polarizing prospect in a lot of ways, but I agree with Emory. I personally view him as more of a second round prospect if I'm looking at the top quarterbacks here.


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[Assistant] He'd be the most likely candidate. That being said, again, a quarterback driven league.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't shock me. What's interesting is I think there's going to be a scenario where, uh, if the Broncos potentially pass on him in the top 15, uh, then I could see him going all the way to the early to mid second round. So I think a lot hinges on what happens early, how things shake out with a guy like Pennex where he ends up going, uh, so.


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[Assistant] I'm personally not, uh, I like the over here quite a bit. I want to preface by stating that, but.


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[Assistant] I think a lot of teams don't have him maybe as their third, uh, overall wide receiver. I think Brian Thomas, uh, junior LSU.


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[Assistant] raw prospects still. So, uh, I know it's been the consensus one, two, three. He's been in it essentially since the strap process started, but I think there's a chance that he could go in that 10 to 15 range personally. Uh, and I do think there will be teams that won't have him as a top three wide receiver on their board. So I like the over here quite a bit.


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[Assistant] I love Bowers as a prospect. I just have a hard time seeing him. If he doesn't go to the Jets, I really think that's closer to his floor. I mean, I love the fit to the Chargers, not ruling that out. I definitely get what Emery's saying.


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[Assistant] Regarding Harbaugh getting a tight end, it would make a lot of sense on paper, but I ultimately think Tan into the Jets is his, uh,


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[Assistant] Is his ceiling or the earliest he was like most likely to go if we look at the potential range of outcomes. And if a Jets pass, I could see him potentially going in the mid.


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[Assistant] 12 to 15 to 16 range. Uh, we could see some teams come a call and trade it up for him. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, one team I have my eye on is the Philadelphia Eagles. I think they're a viable long shot, uh, to draft Brock Bowers in that scenario where he falls. It would honestly be on brand with the Eagles. Uh, we've seen it with Brent Selick when they drafted Zach Ertz, uh, Dallas Goddard when they had Zach Ertz under contract, they tend


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[Assistant] 50 to 1, uh, it's on him going to Philly as well.


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[Assistant] I think Latu's a lock to go in the top 17 picks. Again, I'd look to attack it as the first defender. I also like his chances of going, uh, either eight or nine, uh, to Atlanta or Chicago. Uh, so yeah, I like Latu quite a bit. I wouldn't look to, to lay the heavy juice, but I'd look to attack him elsewhere.


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[Assistant] Uh, as far as Dallas Turner is concerned, I think he is an overrated prospect. Uh, I think he's, you know, he tests really well physically, athletically gifted, but just the production, uh, isn't there. I think Latu, uh, will be drafted ahead of him. And, uh, I think Turner ultimately falls out of the top 10.


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[Assistant] I thought RJ nailed his take regarding running back. I also think it would be somewhat poetic for it to be a running back considering the likelihood that, uh, or the unlikely that I should say that a running back is a top 50 pick. It would make sense that we'd see, uh, Mr. Irrelevant be a running back since the position, uh,


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[Assistant] Seems to be a little bit, uh, in the rearview mirror, at least as far as the top 50 prospects are concerned. So let's go running back here at 8 to 1 oz.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody. Welcome to the pick six podcast. I'm your host Tyler Sullivan in emergency pick six podcasts because we have.


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[Assistant] A blockbuster of all blockbusters coming across the NFL ticker. The Houston Texans and the Buffalo Bills have pulled off a trade that will send.


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[Assistant] Four time Pro Bowl wide receiver, Stefan Diggs to Houston.


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[Assistant] The parameters of this trade per Jonathan Jones. The Texans are sending over a 2025 second round pick, which is the Vikings pick that in part they acquired in that deal earlier this off season.


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[Assistant] Well, you know what? We got Brynston scuba diving on some sort of vacation or maybe he's just scuba diving for fun. And then this is Breach's normal day off. So you knew something crazy was going to go down, but boy, this one is a doozy on a multitude of different levels. First, let's look at it from the Buffalo Bill side of things.


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[Assistant] It's pretty interesting to see how quickly this deteriorated between Stefan Diggs and the Bills organization. The writing was kind of on the wall over the last, I would say, year or so. I mean, you can go back to


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[Assistant] Incidents between Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs kind of arguing on the sidelines having heated discussions. Go back to the start of mandatory minicamp last year where he wasn't there and there was kind of some weird comments made by head coach Sean McDermott.


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[Assistant] And then just fast forward to last night, you have Robert Griffin the third asking the question of whether or not Stefan Diggs is essential to Josh Allen's success.


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[Assistant] And then you have a commenter saying, does Josh benefit from having a top tier wide receiver? Yes. Is he essential to his success? No. And Stefan Diggs responds to that tweet and says, you sure? Question mark. So that is really the final note here.


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[Assistant] It just felt like things were off between Diggs and Alan, Diggs and the organization. So, so when you kind of look back at this, what do you think went wrong here?


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[Assistant] You know, you look at it from, you know, the start of last year, you go through the first six weeks of the season, you're thinking, okay, maybe all of this, you know, the hubbub was just all to do about nothing because digs was balling. He had over a hundred yards in.


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[Assistant] 5 of his first 6 games, but then things really started to drop off. Didn't touch 100 yards receiving for the rest of the season. Averaged to 51.2 receiving yards per game. Really seemed to be out of sync with Josh Allen. And I do think that you point to something that's interesting. On top of just kind of like losing veteran talent. Like you talk about Poirier.


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[Assistant] I almost really am surprised that the bills didn't land on their feet a little bit better here with Step on Digs. And what I mean by that is,


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[Assistant] Really addressed wide receiver to too much. I know they signed Matt Collins and I think they brought in a few other guys, but you look at that position group, the coverage really bare. And so, you know, they acquire a second round pick. You look at their draft capital, this, this, this cycle. Now they have the number 28 overall pick number 60 overall.


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[Assistant] Is there a wide receiver, or are there a couple of wide receivers in that range that would make sense? Or is this a team that needs to kind of trade up to get one of those bonafide studs to replace Diggs?


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[Assistant] And not only that, I do think that as you kind of were saying, it's going to be difficult for them to get


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[Assistant] in that range. I mean, not only are these teams, you know, most of these teams trying to combat these teams, these teams trying to trade for quarterbacks in that top range. So they're going to be willing to give up a little bit more, I would say than you to get inside that top, I don't know,