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[Assistant] And I, I was, uh, embarrassed by that. Uh, and I certainly lose my temper, but I would never say, do you know who I am? I might think it, but I would never actually say it. Go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] See, here's the thing, before we get into the fact, obviously Jason's gonna lose his mind about why this trade would never happen, and that's fine. Before we get to it, here's what happened.


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[Assistant] Because this wizard's son's trade, the wizards got completely destroyed in this deal. Not that, uhm, Bradley Beale is that great, but they got nothing for him.


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[Assistant] Because that happened, now every time Dick and Harry thinks, well, my team can make a trade, we get nothing. The odd, the thing with Bradley Beal, which made it weird, is he, and you would know better than I, Jason.


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[Assistant] I believe is one of the very few players that had a trade, a no trade club. Those things, like, that's big in baseball. It doesn't really happen in the NBA that much. Why they gave it to him, I have no idea. So he basically said to him, here's where I'm going, you can get


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[Assistant] You know, so they had no leverage whatsoever in a trade. And it's a mammoth.


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[Assistant] Should the Cavs at this point, you said, we keep asking, can you win with two big guys that can't shoot?


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[Assistant] From, you know, from distance. No. It feels like you can't win that way in this NBA.


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[Assistant] So it seems to me that they really have to trade Jared Allen to develop some sort of new mix. So at this point, if you're the Cavs, does it make sense to shop him? See what the best offer you can get is and do it.


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[Assistant] What I was going to ask is, like, that, that's a big, that's almost saying, well, we think Darius and


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[Assistant] And Mobley are going to be Murray and Borziga. No, no, no. Not Borziga.


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[Assistant] And that's why to me the answer is getting the most you can get for Al. Well, who's the best, Mike, Jason, whatever. Who do you think is the best wing shooter that you could realistically get for Jared Allen?


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[Assistant] And you're right, and for all the complaining you and I are doing,


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[Assistant] Right, and I wouldn't break up the, I just feel like, and yes, to some degree it's definitely prisoner of the moment, but it feels like Jared Allen is an out of place player in this generation of basketball.


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[Assistant] You know what, in the end, as bad as Jared Allen was in the playoffs, the number one reason they lost in the playoffs is because Donovan Mitchell didn't play like a superstar. He was terrible. That was the number one reason. Yeaah. So, for all the flaws, and they're all fair, if Donovan Mitchell had played like a superstar, maybe the Cavs would have won that series and were thinking differently.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if they run it back, basically, with some different parts and pieces on the end, and losing the first round again, yeah, it's


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[Assistant] So by the way, so for all the criticism we leveled at the cab, myself included, for cutting Kevin Love.


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[Assistant] Where he's ranking the top ten Cavs, Guardians, Browns combined.


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[Assistant] They're not ranked on who's the best, or who's the 10th best. They're ranked on who's got the most trade value, or who's got the 10th most trade value. Alright? He's gonna go 10 to 1, we're gonna talk about each one, give a little bit, but we can't, we need the context of the whole list before we can be critical of anything else. So, take it away, Mike.


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[Assistant] By the way, Bill Simmons is on my top five list of sports media people I'd like to kick in the teeth. He does a good job on this, so...


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[Assistant] He's such a Boston homer, I don't, I, I, I don't, I'm irritated by homers in general. What's the matter, Mike? What'd you say?


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[Assistant] One thing that he did not have on his criteria because he was only talking about basketball.


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[Assistant] I think Mackenzie, if he doesn't have Tommy John surgery, is way ahead of those other four guys.


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[Assistant] Right, because my first thought is, well, he should be higher on the list, but, but I don't, I gotta really see the rest of the list. We'll see.


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe we'll look at it differently. I think you're getting, I think the Guardians comparatively are getting way more for Bieber than the Browns are for Greg Newsom.


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[Assistant] Well, I would say that the Yankees would say Torres hasn't panned out like they expected. Well, the Guardians gave up nothing. The Guardians guys were a bust. That's what I was talking about. But even Torres has overall been a disappointment in his Yankees.


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[Assistant] Those guys were rental or those guys, uh, Chapman was a rental. Andrew Miller had a year and a half left.


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[Assistant] However, Ann Closet's contract is nothing.


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[Assistant] It is, it is a big difference because he's the top notch and he's under control for a lot of years and not getting paid anything.


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[Assistant] Even though, in general, I agree, teams these days are not giving up as much for closers. In his specific case, teams would. Yes. It's very unique to him only. I don't think there's another relief pitcher in baseball. But listen, Josh Hader got traded last year, and they got a good return. You know, at least potential, whether those guys pan out, who knows.


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[Assistant] I don't know that I consider that a team friendly deal, I consider it just a neutral deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, if you had a seven war every year it would be. I don't think it was realistic to have a seven war every year.


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[Assistant] I agree. Luisa Rye is so unique because he's got no power and no speed, but he's...


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[Assistant] Just a leak and getting on base. I mean, it's like we've never seen recently. It's weird.


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[Assistant] The Watson thing is tricky. He's the hardest guy for me to write. He still certainly has value.


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[Assistant] So in other words, you think the Cavs could get equal value that Garland or Mitchell is equal value in a trade right now?


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[Assistant] I mean, at this point, if you're another team, you're not trading for him unless you're clearly a championship contender or you have some sort of guarantee that he's gonna stay, which is unlikely.


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[Assistant] Do you agree that Darius gets more back in the trade today than Donovan?


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[Assistant] Now for three, you know, solid players doesn't make a lot of sense.


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[Assistant] I think they get more because Jose is locked into the best contract.


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[Assistant] The best post arbitration contract in baseball.


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[Assistant] I think way more than the Red Sox got for, or, yeaah, the Red Sox got from Luke.


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[Assistant] I mean, if they trade for Bradley Chubb, I just didn't think defensive linemen got traded, no matter how good they were.


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[Assistant] I, I hear ya, but if you're trading Miles, like think about it, if you're trading Miles Garrett for, even if you do get two first round picks, if you got that, they'd be late first round picks, so it's only good teams that are gonna make that trade. No shitty team in the top 10 pick is making that trade.


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[Assistant] So they actually would, I actually would put Jose Ramirez as one.


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[Assistant] I think the list is good overall. I mean, I think the only change I would make is I would have Tristan McKenzie instead of Greg Newsom in the top ten.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I would change the order a little bit, but I mean I think it's a good list.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think you're, to me, you undervalued the baseball guys a little bit and I get it. One baseball player doesn't make the impact. But I think, but you said you weren't factoring in that into your equation. And in my mind, I'm like, what could you get back? Like for Jose Ramirez, I think you can get back, prove it. Like I, I,


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[Assistant] I don't even think Mookie, what they got from Mookie Betts is close to what you get from Ramirez. You're talking about a top 10 player in baseball. So yea, give me the return package.


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[Assistant] Right, that would be tricky, but I think if you were trading him for prospects, and remember, yes, prospects, you're comparing prospects to draft picks, I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think you could say a top five prospect in an organization is a first round pick.


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[Assistant] But is it, but those guys have, at least they're playing professionally. They're not playing in the majors. And some of them may have major league experience.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you would absolutely get three top five prospects. 100%.


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[Assistant] Because there's nothing. If you're another team, you're like, the guy's great. He's not old. He's got a great contract. He's never in trouble. He's never in trouble. He's never hurt. I mean, he has injury factored into his last season, but he's basically missed no time in his career.


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[Assistant] Uh, the only negative is that yeaah, you're three, four years away from him being where he starts getting a little older.


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[Assistant] Doesn't mean you're good. Well, I'm just saying that. You're starting that year. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, if the Guardians, obviously they would never trade Jose, but in theory, if they traded Jose,


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[Assistant] I could go to any team and go to their best young player outside of a few guys and like we could take him and then your two best prospects in AAA right now.


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[Assistant] I don't think that would be enough if I'm the Guardians. For real? 100%.


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[Assistant] Again, he, like, if you look at every other superstar, there's a negative as to why not to trade for him.


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[Assistant] You know, Aaron Judge, the contract's huge. Shohei Otani, I gotta sign him to an extension. I could go every, for every other guy, there's no flaw in Jose. He's not old, he's got a great contract, he's got speed, he's got power, he, you know, not elite at getting on base, but good enough.


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[Assistant] Great teammate, never injured, like there's no flaw whatsoever. And you got him locked up for the next whatever, what is it, six years? Five years I think.


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[Assistant] I would, I would have Jose one, Mobley two, Miles three. But I think it's really close between those three. I have Mobley.


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm thinking about this now. I wouldn't even have Miles Garrett 3, now that I think about it. I'd have him 4. I think you, I, I think Jason's right.


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[Assistant] I think you ultimately, if you right now, if the Browns right now said, alright, the Sean Watson and Miles Garrett both on the block, I think they would ultimately get more for Watson than they would for Garrett. No.


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[Assistant] I'm not as convinced as you guys that you can get two ones from Miles. I might be crazy, but. I think you for sure get two ones from Miles. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Outside of, outside of, uh, what's his name?


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[Assistant] Nothing, nothing before the last 10 years to me matters. Not comparing. Offense means so much more now.


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[Assistant] You're probably right, you probably wouldn't get to...


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[Assistant] I still think in the end you'd get more comparatively in their sport for Mobley and Ramirez and even Watson.


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[Assistant] I, I, I probably received criticism for this. As much as I love Miles Garrett, he's not Aaron Donald.


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[Assistant] If the Cowboys got Myles Garrett, are you changing your win total for them? Yes. By how much? Two, three games. Two, three games?


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[Assistant] Who best pass rushers in the game? I know that, but I don't think Miles Garrett brings two three wins to a team.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's a lot of good defensive lines. You're not getting to the quarterback every time, but the game is so offensive based. I just think that, you know,


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[Assistant] That's a lot. Uh, listen, Myles Garrett's a great player. He's probably going to be a Hall of Famer if he stays healthy and does this for a few more years, but he's not on Reggie White's level. He's, he's on tier two, which is still an incredible tier. I was going to say, there's some pretty good players.


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[Assistant] He is one of the best pass rushers in the game today, but I don't think he has the, like, to me, Aaron Donald, like, makes more impact than...


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[Assistant] And I think that's a lot, by the way, because I think for the most part, no non-quarterback is worth wins. Or many, more than one win.


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[Assistant] My guess is right, but let's go. We'll see. He's too young to get it right, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. Because Bobby Bonds is better than Archie.


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[Assistant] I mean, don't you think Peyton Manning with only two symbols is a disappointment?


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[Assistant] Oh, that's true. I wasn't even thinking about the grants. I thought that had to be number one. When I said bonds.


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[Assistant] That's a good point. How do you leave the Griffys off? Because the royalty.


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[Assistant] I, I thought Griffys were going to be number one. I would have the Bonds as one. I would have the Griffys too. We are baseball apologists. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You're right. It's a great point. I'm with Jason on this. Manning's out. Dad, both parts of it have to at least be good. And Archie was nothing.


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[Assistant] Nothing? No. He'd have to be better than Jerry Rice to even be-


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[Assistant] If he's a Hall of Famer, fine, he hasn't played a game in the league. I agree, that's why I said come back to me in 10 years. Jason, Marvin Harrison, is he even a top 10 wide receiver in all time? No.


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[Assistant] No. Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Bonds are two of the ten best players ever. Two of the top, two of the top five, in my opinion. Is Marvin Harrison a Hall of Famer? Is he definitely a Hall of Famer? Yes he is.


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[Assistant] Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Bonds are top 10 players in the history of baseball. Yes? Yes.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Now you wanna dismiss because of the steroid, you do it. I'm not.


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[Assistant] Senior is compar- is a good comparison for Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr.?


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[Assistant] That's kinda crazy, bro. That wasn't good enough. By the way, you know what would be the family with the best three generations? The Mannings. Huh?


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[Assistant] Uh, no, the best three generations are the boons. The boons. Yeah, yeah. Uh, no, not the bells. Boons would be better than the... Gus, right? Gus Boon? Bob Boon and Brett Boon? Aaron Boon? Or is it Gus Bell? I think we're confusing the Bells with the Boons. The Bells and the Boons.


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[Assistant] I'm saying he wants it to happen because Jay's, I know Jay's a diehard Browns fan and wants him to win more than anything, but.


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[Assistant] If Watson sucks and Baker's great, he will, he will bring


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[Assistant] Well, it's a big game tonight. We're playing Once Upon a Time Toys.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I have stacked our lineup tonight.


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[Assistant] We've never seen this type of offensive reaction from any of the other installations. Other installations. Mr. Lasky.


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[Assistant] A science team got zapped excavating a forerunner artifact. This sensor data is all that was left.


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[Assistant] And our geeks managed to pull some coordinates. I'll give you three guesses where it led.


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[Assistant] Mr. Lasky, you take point, I want boots on the ground in 60. Captain.


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[Assistant] This is a first contact scenario, Master Chief. Priorit-


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[Assistant] You know, I think you, of all people, would appreciate the benefit of living to fight another day.


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[Assistant] The air corridor to the gravity well is blocked by a network of particle cannons. Infinity's shields are still down. Open the lane for us to move up and provide air support.


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[Assistant] I know you've been off the field for a while, Master Chief, but this is a blow-through op. Sending in a recon would just slow us down.


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[Assistant] Infinity cannot handle that kind of punishment. Not again.


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[Assistant] And with all due respect to you, soldier, I'm not willing to jeopardize my ship because of the hallucinations of an aging Spartan and his malfunctioning AI. Sir, what if he's right?


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[Assistant] Nav, as soon as we know we're airtight, I want a course late into Karenay station. Come, prepare a warning beacon.


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[Assistant] This the last lot? Yeaah, that's all of it. Right, rally everyone, we're pulling the plug.


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[Assistant] It's the copilot. We need a medic. What's wrong? The captain. Cracked his head when the plane dropped. It's bad. He's unconscious. Repeat, the pilot is down. Is the plane under control? Shit. All the engines are dead. Trying to restart.


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[Assistant] I'm locked out of the navigation controls. Can you fly? Yes! I mean no. I can try to keep it together manually, keep her in a glide, but...


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[Assistant] I need another pilot. Takes two people to properly work the controls. Briggs, check on the pilot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we really united a lot of people too, like that probably wouldn't even fuck, like some people that fuck with Joe might not fuck with me or fuck with Royce don't fuck with Joelle. We made them all have to fuck with each other, you know what I'm saying? And it was dope, man.


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[Assistant] You know, uhm, we had, we had content man, we had a lot of songs and shit that were about shit, goodbye, raindrops, you know what I mean, like different joints. Uhm, the inception was uhm, it came from Joe, Joe had a project and he wanted to do a posse cut. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Nino Bless, yeaah, Nino Bless was on that joint. Bless, yeaah, Bless, you're right, Nino Bless. Yeah, he was on that joint and, uh, you know, we was all doing our thing on the internet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then Joe, he, he kinda came up with, uh, to me, I, I credit him for, for helping, you know, from a distance to create love and hip hop.


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[Assistant] Because he was doing the Joe Button TV thing and he was showing his relationship with Tahiri.


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[Assistant] And he kinda did that, so he had the internet on Smash that way. You know, Royce had the bar exams on Smash.


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[Assistant] Joelle was doing all type of stuff. So, you know, I felt like they were getting in my lane. I'm sitting in the range one day and, um, my little brother's like, yo, you gotta listen to this, this, this bar exam too. I listened to it. I was like, man, this shit is crazy.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And then I listened to Joe, he did like a 12 minute song or some shit where he just going off and he mentioned my name in the song. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, okay, these dudes are doing their thing.


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[Assistant] And next you know, man, somebody call us up like, yo, you guys, uh, wanna all do some songs together? And got that call from Mecca.


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[Assistant] From the source, he was writing for the source and then another call came in from Nino Bless and was like, yo, Joe's trying to do a posse cut. Can you get on here?


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? He need that verse at 24 hours. I slid down the hill.


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[Assistant] Drop the verse, sent it to him, the internet kinda went fucking crazy over the shit.


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[Assistant] And we just looked at each other like, damn, that shit was dope, let's do another one. But this time, let's do it in person. So I flew to New York, you know what I mean? And we did some shit at Red Spiders Crib. And we did uhm, what was that shit? Onslaught.


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[Assistant] And then after onslaught, basically the fans created the group, man. Them demanding more music from us is what created Slardough.


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[Assistant] We all been through some shit, and a lot of people like, yo, why come Nino Bless wasn't in the group?


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[Assistant] I don't even know was Nino Bless interested in being in the group or not, but I'm saying as far as the group members, it was all about, you know, going through some shit with a major, going independent.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And having that under your, under your belt, man. So, you know, we definitely, uhm, we all fit.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't look back, you know what I'm saying? I always look forward. Uhm, I don't think I would change anything because it made me who I am and I love me.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, it was some ups and downs. I mean, I dealt with a lot of labels. I went through the school of hard knocks. I got my industry education.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So you know how that go. So yeah, man, it's all good. Everything is good, man. I just left the studio. I did a whole fucking EP in one day. I still get to travel. I still get to.


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[Assistant] You know, hang out with cool motherfuckers. I still get to do whatever I like to do. I'm very happy, bro. Whole EP in one day. Five hours.


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[Assistant] Man, I got so much, so much in me, so many bars in me, so many thoughts and ideas, I have to get it out, it's my therapy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Uhm, I'm writing for people, I'm putting freestyles out every week, I'm doing albums with group members, I'm just fucking...


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[Assistant] I think when I moved to, uh, you know what I'm sayin', we was homeless, we was broke, we was real fucked up when I was a kid. But always in Long Beach? I moved to, uh, Harrisburg for one year.


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[Assistant] Pennsylvania? Pennsylvania. Wow. And it was a lot of East Coast dudes over there. So.


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[Assistant] So we would be on the fucking basketball court battling every single day.


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[Assistant] So all, everybody was coming from all over town, some people catching the train from Philly and all that, just to go at me.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So, I got my, I got my aggressive flow.


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[Assistant] You know, fucking around in Pennsylvania. And when I came back to Long Beach, it was like,


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[Assistant] So, you know, I stood out and they was like, man.


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[Assistant] And people in the business saying, yo, that motherfucker is cold. You know what I'm saying? Then they like, oh, I get it now.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? So, I thank God that I went through those, you know what I mean, trenches.


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[Assistant] Who I am and made my style get a little more aggressive, get more, you know, um.


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[Assistant] Like you say, lyrical, you know, pay attention to the metaphors, the punchlines, the cadences, the patterns, the breakdowns in the beat, all that shit. You know, it made me really study the game, so.


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[Assistant] So, you know, we was doing bad out there too. So I would come up to the schools and shit to hustle.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? And then be back at the motherfuckin' apartment and shit. You know what I'm sayin'? But uhm, it was just a good time for me to learn.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? It taught me a whole lot of shit about, you know, being, you know, battle rap, you know what I'm saying? And uhm, just to be competitive, the spirit of competition.


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[Assistant] Dumb it down, but say, hey, I want to, I want at least one stinger in this 16. Right. And then they don't give the guys the credit and you know, it's just.


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[Assistant] It's a subculture, but I mean, it's a competition thing, man. Cause I was like, man, who the fuck is Adam 22, man? You know what I'm saying? So I started like, man, let me find out about this guy. So you were like a prolific BMX writer.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, look though, and I mentioned that because, you know, like, you know, the competition.


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[Assistant] In BMX and X Games and all that type of shit, you know, I'm pretty sure that you can relate to that, you know what I mean? Like, and, and, and, you know, just how you can freestyle on a bike, you know what I'm saying? I, I, that's how I look at...


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[Assistant] I saw her approach rapping. You know what I'm saying? Like if you-


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[Assistant] I hate when a motherfucker got the same pattern, the same flow, every fucking song.


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[Assistant] We was just talking about that shit on the way here. It's like, I don't like that. I mean, it could be dope as fuck, but you only gonna get so many points from me. You not gonna get the Jedi stamp.


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[Assistant] BMX riding, I hit the ramp, I'm doing tricks, I'm coming.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Exactly bro. What, what got you into rap?


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[Assistant] That G-Funk shit was hard, you know, and you know, I like to give hats off too, cause you gotta like, you gotta above the law.


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[Assistant] You know, Big Hutch was very instrumental in creating that sound, you know what I'm saying? And you got, you know, Warren G, the G-Funk era, you got, you know, the Snoop shit. Doggy Style is arguably the best debut album, rap album in history.


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[Assistant] Break beats, shit coming in and all that. It's real rough and rugged. Nah, that shit, he brought them keyboards in and fucking live instruments, you know what I'm saying? That shit was just, I mean, when you listen to it now, dawg, it's just crazy, you know, it stood the test of time.


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[Assistant] You know, anytime that you can make something cool, you know what I mean? You, you have a lot of power and a lot of value.


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[Assistant] You know, and he gave them an inside that, you know what? These are human beings too. These ain't animals. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Or it's the immigration, it's the, you know, the Mexicans or whatever. So they just find these fucking enemies, you know what I mean? And then they give the people something to root for. Yeah, get rid of that. You know what I'm saying? Remember they were running over fucking-


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[Assistant] I'm talking man, four million records, like some of the biggest hip hop stars that we looked up to and hung their posters on the wall were going platinum, double platinum.


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[Assistant] Snoop rolled through 4 million, chronic 4 million, 5 million. Like what the fuck?


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[Assistant] So she was a singer. So she used to play a lot of music around the house, you know what I'm saying? And she would play everything. So even she would go way back to fucking Sugarhill Gang and shit playing around when I was a kid, you know what I'm saying? And motherfucking, you know, Melly Mel and you know, everything.


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[Assistant] It just, it kind of just stuck with me like, yo, I could do this shit. I started learning different rap songs and was like, yo, I want to rap. And so, you know, my mom, my auntie, rest in peace, they took me to the studio. I was eight years old. I did a song called The Controller, you know.


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[Assistant] She was raped and murdered in Indiana and uh, you know, the guy, she didn't want nothing to do with some guy and he was crazy.


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[Assistant] And he took her life, man, and he dumped her into a garbage can in an alleyway. Her body. Holy shit. You know what I'm sayin', so.


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[Assistant] And you were real young when this happened? Yeah, I was young when this happened, man. And, um, I remember my other aunties knocked on my door.


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[Assistant] And we're like the black sheep of the family. There's no reason for all my aunties to be at the fucking door. You know what I'm saying? So we were like, what the fuck is going on?


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[Assistant] And they was like, yo, Charlene, that's her name, you know, my mom's name is Darlene, Darlene and Charlene. And they was like, yo, she been killed, she been murdered, and...


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[Assistant] You know, I just remember the look on my mom's face, you know what I mean? And that was her, that was her ace. That was her, you know, they were twins. They did everything together. You know what I'm saying? So it was really, it was, she was like a second mom. You know what I mean? Like she, she believed in everything that I wanted to do. Any one of my brothers, anything we wanted to do, she would support it.


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[Assistant] You know, she didn't have no negativity to, you know, say nothing negative to say about our dreams and goals and all that. And you know, she, he took her.


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[Assistant] One of, you know what I'm saying? I was going to a lot of funerals when I was a kid because people in my family were dying young.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Uhm, but she was very close to me. And then, you know, uhm.


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[Assistant] It changes your perspective when you're young. You know, you say, wait a minute, what's going on here?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So I think it, I think it made me feel like I need to really be on my shit. You know what I'm saying? And throughout the years, it's like, I'm still trying to make her proud. You know what I mean? Even though, you know, I feel like she's just looking down on me and I'm trying to make her proud.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? Like, my grandmother was, uh, she was like a nanny. She took care of some kids in a white family.


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[Assistant] Uhm, she grew up in Oklahoma where it was just, you know, segregation was crazy. Even after it was supposedly over, it was still crazy. Uh, she's a heavy Christian. So, you know, she just, she just believed that white was better. You know what I mean? So my cousins that were like way lighter than me, you know, she would treat them differently.


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[Assistant] Like me, you know how kids are like, dang, I'ma do something to make grandma like me, you know what I mean? But she make me do all the work, you know what I'm saying? It was just a crazy thing, you know, and then I got 16, I went down to Oklahoma and I was staying with her, with one of my cousins and


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[Assistant] She sat me down one morning and it was like all that spoiling that I did with your cousins.


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[Assistant] Look, look what happens. Now you're the only one who comes and you hustle up and pay me some rent on time. You're the only one who brings groceries in the house. You're the only one who, you know what I'm saying, cut the yard without me asking you to. You know what I'm saying? You're working out here. You're doing your thing out here. And I treated you differently, you know, and she apologized.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I start drinking coffee with her early in the morning and shit, and talking about the Bible and all that, you know what I mean? And we had a cool relationship before she passed away.


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[Assistant] I think I knew it was something wrong with that because my mom, she's real, uh, conscious.


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[Assistant] So she taught us a lot of things in our household, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, she was really conscious of what's going on politically, socially, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] There was Black Panthers in and out my house. There was, you know, Black Muslims, Black Israelites, uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] And even her, her, her white friends were more like, uhm, liberal. You know what I'm sayin'? So, it was just, it was, it was a different environment. I knew that my grandma was trippin'. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm like, oh, my grandma trippin' and she don't like me cause I'm dark skinned.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, it was really, it was really tough, man, and you know, I just felt like some people might be going through colorism right now, and they might need to hear some shit like that.


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[Assistant] So she was suing him and they like, alright, we got you. Uh huh. Now they want revenge. And now I thought about...


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[Assistant] Going back and, and deleting like all my old shit. You know what I'm saying? Cause when I first got online,


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[Assistant] Yo, that's the thing, man. You can't be, you know, sometimes when you're becoming the new version of yourself, you're getting some success, things are going good, sometimes you gotta lock that old version in the closet.


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[Assistant] He wasn't made for this, you know what I mean? He wasn't made for the internet and uh, social media and, you know, you can get caught up over some old shit. And it's, you know, with the Cardi shit, it's like yo, I kinda get it, you know what I mean? Because,


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[Assistant] A lot of us did things in the past that we're not proud of right now, you know, just trying to make it. Um, when you're in the ghetto and the hood, your fucking mindset is, is all fucked up. You don't really understand. You, you know, it's hard for you to think outside of your circumstances. It's hard for you to think bigger than your environment.


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[Assistant] So everything is about the environment. Oh, this motherfucker down here shot at me.


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[Assistant] So it's on with him, oh this motherfuckin' cops over here always fuckin' with me, oh they don't like me cuz I'm black and they from a Mexican hood, oh this and this and that, and you-


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[Assistant] You live that reality and you start talking and that's all in your conversation cause it's in your skin, it's in your blood. So, you know, you come on into the public arena and motherfuckers looking at you like,


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[Assistant] You're a fucking alien, like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's just the mindset. The mindset is just on. I'm active. I'm turnt up. This is what it is.


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[Assistant] And when you become, you know, a newer version of yourself and you start chasing dreams and working hard and start seeing some success, achieving some goals, you know what I mean? You're going uphill now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and especially because of the R. Kelly shit, you know, you got the R. Kelly shit, you got the Michael Jackson shit, you know what I'm saying, and uhm.


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[Assistant] And like I said on Twitter dawg, like a stripper tried to rob me right in the club.


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[Assistant] And she just, you know, I had a bunch of cash in my pocket cause I, you know, I'm in here throwing ones, you know, I came in with a lot of cash and I'm like,


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[Assistant] You know, I'm pretty sure Cardi B wishes that she never had to be in a circumstance or live the type of life she had to live where she felt that that was something that she needed to do. I'm sure.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? Now they sayin' the guy's comin' out. This shit is unfolding.


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[Assistant] You know, and you know, they loved her rawness. They loved her personality, her I don't give a fuck attitude.


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[Assistant] Right, no. Actual human beings. And, cause we're in a council culture. People wanna council people fast.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? Forgiveness is taking a backseat to being canceled. You know? We gon' cancel- Oh, it ain't canceled.


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[Assistant] Oh, he said what? Two years ago? Cancelled. Oh, he said what? Four years ago? Cancelled. You know what I'm saying? And it's like everybody is, I think a lot of people are acting as if they're perfect, man. And that's what I don't like because, you know, we all got our flaws, we all got our mistakes, we all got things that we wish we didn't do, things we wish we could take back, bitches we wish we could unfuck.


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[Assistant] All types of shit, you know what I'm saying? So, why? Why are we so quick to, to, to judge, man? You know, uh, it's,


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[Assistant] Deaf World Records was around, and Instagram, and fucking WorldStar, and Snapchat, and all that shit. What you man, do?


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[Assistant] Yo lemme tell you something dog, I was right there dude when Benzino played the tape, the Eminem tape. Ooh, I heard you just told a story on podcast the other day. You know what I'm saying? He, he really played that tape bro. You know what I'm saying? He did like a press conference type thing? He did a press conference, he played that tape and


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[Assistant] Talk to the person, communicate, and then, you know, see what's up. Because this person has a side of a story, that person got a side of a story, we gotta see what's going on, you know what I mean? Uhm, I don't condone him calling a woman a black bitch, but,


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[Assistant] You know, my whole thing is, okay, where's this coming from? What happened? What's the scenario? You know what I'm saying? What's the scenario? And I just think that that shit right there.


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[Assistant] That shit shook the culture up for me. Cause I was like, wow. And then it didn't work.


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[Assistant] But, you know, that shit was crazy, but, I mean, now it's even worse, like, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly, exactly. And he is a good guy, and I'm glad that I got to know him personally.


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[Assistant] And he cares about shit. That's why I was not fucking with-


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[Assistant] Is it real? Does he feel like that? Or is he trying to ride a wave? Nah, motherfucker, I know this guy.


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[Assistant] Well, you know what, bro? And he even touched on this when he did his interview with Sway. I had this song called, I Can't Breathe, you know, dedicated to Eric Garner, Rest In Peace. And uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, I had a line where I say white rappers shouldn't stay quiet.


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[Assistant] About this shit that's going on, and he told me, man, he said, man, I felt the fuck out of that line.


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[Assistant] Wow. You know what I'm saying? So I, I think I even planted a small seed for him to, you know, say, yo, you know what, Crook might be right. You know what I'm saying? So I, I, I just think it was genuine and you know, I think if he comes with that type of content, you know, people protest him and shit.


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[Assistant] His protests used to come from outside of the culture.


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[Assistant] He was saying wow shit. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] A lot of people, oh, we don't want him at our college campus. He said this. Oh, you know, they holding up picket signs and shit. You know, they don't want Eminem there.


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[Assistant] With the revival shit, his protests became, started becoming, you know, present inside the culture.


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[Assistant] Rap media people and motherfuckers, yo, this is not, you know, and to me, it was like the first time.


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[Assistant] That I really seen him be attacked from the inside of the culture.


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[Assistant] Cause everybody respect Em. His pen, you know what I'm saying, is incredible. You know, and-


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[Assistant] Some dudes that none of his fans know who the fuck those dudes are, but they go look them up. Might even purchase something off iTunes just cause they seen him wearing a shirt, and he does it on purpose, for the culture.


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[Assistant] It's just, it was an odd time for me, man, to just watch that, watch the game turn on him. But it's good they did, cause then he came back with kamikaze.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? I mean, it was definitely a wave at a point, you know, where it was just like, that was what it was. But we come from an era where you respect the legends. You respect people who open the door for you. If you're on the street corner, you respect the OG. You know what I'm saying? And that's just what it is. I mean, even with Kodak Black, you know what I'm saying? Where he's like, yo, Pac and Biggie and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] You know, in his story he told about sticky fingers. You know what I'm saying? You believe that story? No. I don't understand why they would even be in the same room.


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[Assistant] The driver, you know, Kodak come on the radio and I'm like, man, I told the driver, hey, turn that shit up. You know, pull up in the Demon on God. Looking like I still do fr- I love that shit. I mean, you know, he's a young gun. I feel where he coming from.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, and then he'd be like, I don't like old heads, I don't like his old head energy, which was funny as fuck to me. Old head energy had me on the floor. But uh, I was like, shit, I'd like to do a song with the young gun showing what this old head energy do.


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[Assistant] Right, right. I mean, my thing is, I give props when I see artists growing.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? When I first heard him, it was like, all right, that's cool.


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[Assistant] You know, he went through his problems, he came out and he started dropping some jewels.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And particularly on the song with him and Wayne, I forget the name of it.


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[Assistant] But we were in my studio and we were playing that shit and I was like, yo, Kodak is growing.


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[Assistant] And he'll fuckin' wipe everybody up on a fuckin' song. You know what I'm sayin'? On a feature. And I heard the Kodak shit and I was like, damn.


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[Assistant] He's growing. I remember when, when I felt like that about Wayne, you know, the block, all that stuff was cool. But when I heard him do the DJ, cause that's my DJ, and he fucking performed that shit with no hype, man. He just walking across the stage spitting bars.


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[Assistant] People on different ends of the spectrum. You know what I'm saying? Like yo, this dude is lyrical cool. You fuck with him. This dude's not. You fuck with him for his vibe. Whatever. You know what I mean? We could be fans. You know what I'm saying? But yea dog, it's a, it's a, it's a strange time. I'm more of a unifier. I don't really like the vision.


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[Assistant] I think that the community should stick together. I think the community should work together. Uhm, it's, it's really hard to watch sometimes just see all these motherfuckers going at each other for no reason. Petty shit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I still love- I love my- I was just out there, man. Oh, so you're not that m-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I move around a lot, you know what I mean? But when I was out there, it was, you know, I just walked bro. I walked through the city, you know what I'm saying? And it just, I love it. King Taco.


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[Assistant] You know, the great side of Long Beach has been ever really displayed on a major platform.


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[Assistant] Pine is like fuckin' baby south beach, it pops down there.


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[Assistant] And wearing skinnies when nobody thought it was cool in the city. You know what I'm saying? And fucking, you know, living a life, dog. And you know, it's just, it's a great place, man. Uhm, I just wish that we could show the other side a lot more.


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[Assistant] Hey, you know what I tripped off of, man, when I was, uh, you know, reading about you and the things that you've achieved and accomplishments. One thing that really tripped me out was...


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[Assistant] What drove you to get into these artists who are fucking humongous now? Way early.


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[Assistant] And that's what I'm saying like, dawg. That's vision. These motherfuckers don't do that shit.


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[Assistant] That, that right there, I knew that was coming one day. Cause they deep.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? And they real. You know what I mean? The Asian community, dawg. And pssh. I already knew that was gonna happen one day, dawg. I'm glad. I'm happy. I'm happy, man.


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[Assistant] And I mean, it's just, it's just the city, man. It's something in the water. You know, there was a time where everybody in the city had a deal, like Atlanta.


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[Assistant] That was Long Beach. I mean, I could count them out. Like during, after Snoop blew the doors open, you had Warren.


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[Assistant] Dove Shackett, Summertime in the LBC. You had myself. Everybody had a major record deal.


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[Assistant] This shit was poppin', you know what I'm sayin'? And now, I'm startin' to see that wave again. I'm seein' Stupid Young, I'm seein' Tay, I'm seein' OT, Vince, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, Tiny C Style, Free Tiny C Style, you know what I'm sayin'?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Shoreline Mafia, man, it's a lot. I mean, you right, Calabasas, a lot of out of towners in Calabasas, you know what I mean? So, a lot of execs.


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[Assistant] You know, cause I look at the entire game. So even when you walk into offices, you see a lot of people from different cities holding down big jobs.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? I'd like somebody from here would understand the scene. You know what I mean? So it's, it's, it's, it's really crazy out there, man. But I see people trying to do it. You know what I mean? TDE.


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[Assistant] They putting in some major work on that level. You got J-Rock, you got Reason, man. Reason is hard.


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[Assistant] I listen to Reason like I'm listening to a brand new exhibit from Carson.


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[Assistant] There you go. You see what I'm saying? I mean, it's just, it's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. I used to go to the projects and watch. I got an older homie named Elijah.


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[Assistant] And it was a dry spell, but now it's looking very good. I mean, damn.


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[Assistant] It's kind of weird, but you know what it is, bro? Unless you got, you got the connections and it makes sense. Okay. When you grow up, poor as fuck, you feel at home in a lot of hoods. You know what I'm saying? Like if I go, you know the rules. You know what I'm saying? Like when we shot the hammer dance video.


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[Assistant] We was in a hood in Austin. You know what I'm saying? And uhm, you know, I felt right at home.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? So I know the rules, but you just feel comfortable. Like when we go to different cities, we go into the hood spots. It might not be the smartest thing, but that's where we feel comfortable at.


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[Assistant] And he talked about how, you know, he's trying to get better and improve.


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[Assistant] A lot of rappers, they not gon' be that open. They gon' go in there like they own the place. They gon' have a big ego, be arrogant, I gotta hit out, you know what I mean? I don't gotta explain nothing about my style to nobody.


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[Assistant] Trying to make it and trying to improve itself. I can never knock somebody on that level. Never.


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[Assistant] Then everybody should be, since you know, Nas was a teenager when he wrote Elmatic, Ice Cube was a teenager when he wrote Half a Straight Outta Compton. You feel me?


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[Assistant] Everybody should be on a certain level. It ain't no excuses. That's how I used to be. But now I really understand that some people are thrown into success. Some people are thrown into the spotlight. And they might not be all the way prepared. We gotta give them time to grow.


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[Assistant] It's nothing good, man. I think everybody figures that out sooner or later. Yeah. We just gotta wait till certain people figure it out, but.


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[Assistant] That's absolutely true, bro. And then you gotta genuinely be happy for people.


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[Assistant] You know, that's, that's one of the rules of the game. That's a universal law.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? You gotta be happy when you see people on top. Be genuinely happy.


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[Assistant] Why are you so hot and angry at these people? You know what I'm saying? Be happy for him. Take care of his family. Pay him some bills.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like you feel that energy. And it's like yo, us as old heads, OGs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we gotta, we gotta talk to him, not talk at him.


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[Assistant] We gotta find common ground and take the conversation to higher ground.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Because they kids, man. We was there too.


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[Assistant] With a fuckin' welfare EBT card in my back pocket to motherfuckin' six figure checks.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, man. You know, I was on New Tribe Virgin with Looney's. Right. And uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Before they shut that whole department down, Virgin shut that whole shit down. But before then, you know, they cashed me out. And I didn't know what the fuck to do.


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[Assistant] I never had that kind of money, you know what I'm saying? And it was like, shit, what do I do? I'm young, I'm out here. I start seeing, you know, I learned fast, you know, girls.


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[Assistant] That you thought genuinely liked you, just wanted to, was close to you because of the paper. You young, you riding around $120,000 Mercedes Benz.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, it didn't hit me. It was like, oh, this is just a chick that's digging me like another chick used to dig me or whatever, but I got hip to the game, but it's a lot to take on for a young guy. So I get it. You know what I'm saying? These dudes is millionaires. You know what I'm saying? They young and they got a lot of yes men around.


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[Assistant] And I think the way that the OGs, as far as in the industry, is coming at them.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And that's not good because, you know, a little mentorship goes a long fucking way.


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[Assistant] So I think that they should really sit down and talk to the young guns and say some real shit and drop some jewels.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And, and, and stop all that, ah, you, you wag all this and that. It's, it look crazy, man. It looks crazy when an OG is going at somebody that, that's like, you know, like you was talking about earlier with the hops and shit. Shit, shit look crazy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he made horse shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He made a little joke. And my whole thing is, look, my little brothers will wrap circles around you. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] And, and, and they, and they out here grinding every day. They dropped a mixed tape a month for 12 months.


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[Assistant] Because I'm like, damn dawg, we just, you know what I mean, squashed everything and boom, you know, still, okay, cool. Well, let's take it to another level. You know what I mean? But uhm,


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[Assistant] The funny part is, even when I do that, I feel this low vibration. What do you mean by that? I mean that I'm listening to the thoughts of my lower self, not my higher self, not my best version. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] If I start feeling like that, I'll say, you know what? I'mma back up off this shit. Cause I don't ever want to feel like that.


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[Assistant] So I hit up Dame, man, and I was talking to Dame, you know, and his, you know, that's when he was still with Dame and me and Dame always had great conversations. And I actually told, you know, via Twitter, Hopson like, yo, I don't think you should leave Dame.


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[Assistant] I don't think you and Dame have good chemistry. I think what you guys are doing is, is, is amazing and it will go to another level if you guys stick with each other. You know what I'm saying? So that was after the whole.


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[Assistant] Bullshit fiasco Vlad interview and all that type of shit, you know what I'm saying? Because that's what I felt in my heart. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to, I'm trying to keep my vibration up high. I'm trying to attract like, like-minded individuals. I'm trying to live my best life. I'm trying to be in good mental spaces, man. Like all that other shit is just, is wack, man. I don't, it ain't nothing to me. I'm not impressed by it either.


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[Assistant] They always want to drag me, bro. I look at all the comments. They want me to go at Joe.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? They want me, I'm like, yo dog, it's not going to happen.


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[Assistant] We don't really talk, you know what I'm saying? We don't talk. Uhm, I tried to reach out a few times and, you know,


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[Assistant] It is. I was, I was, man, that shit, that shit hurt me. Like I, I contemplated coming at Drake


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? Just cuz? Oh, because he went to Joe, right? You know what I'm sayin'? Before, before, but yeaah. Like, I played a, I played a clip of my, of the Drake diss to Joe on my IG. And I was like, hmm.


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[Assistant] And I contemplated that shit, you know what I'm saying? Because that's how much.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, I love this lyricism, this competition and you know, my guys.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Uhm, but yeaah man, I mean, I was asking him, why you letting everybody fire at you bro? Like,


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[Assistant] You can step out the, you can step off the podcast for two seconds and fire, clap back. You, you know, you got the skill level.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Like, we kinda attach.


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[Assistant] But he became, he became the symbol. Of being a hater, old head.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, get off my lawn. He became that. You know what I'm saying? And you know, that's why I think him in academics, chemistry was so good.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Cause act was the opposite. You know what I mean? And that's why I feel like you know everyday struggle.


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[Assistant] Nah, I feel, I think the fans see that too, but they just, I don't think they dissecting it like you just did. You know what I'm saying? And understanding that this is what's going on on State of the Culture, opposed to what's going on on the pie.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well somebody, somebody from Love and Hip Hop, you know, I, I, yeah, they kinda, they approach me, you know what I'm sayin', but, you know, dog, I, I, there's certain things I wanna keep personal. My relationships, you know, my children, I'll keep that just for me. I'm a spectacle for a living.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? I feel like I'm in a museum, you know what I mean? So I want to have something that nobody can analyze.


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[Assistant] It's too much, dawg, and I'ma go crazy and be my own self if I see people taking shots at my kids and all that type of shit. Now, now, you know, ain't no telling, you know what I mean? So, I'm just thankful. Plus, being on Def World Records, you know, I was a kid with a kid, so I always had kids, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had an incident where some people pulled up to my daughter's elementary and shit, you know what I'm saying? And they tried some foul shit and man, I almost got locked for 25. It was a long ass time ago? Yeah, it was a long ass time ago. So, you know, now that we got social media how it is, even more so,


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[Assistant] They used to be like I was a stranger. You know what I'm saying? Because I was always on the road and they would not come home. Hey, the stranger's home. You know what I'm saying? Back then. You know what I mean? But, I mean, you know, they get it. Good kids, man. I'm proud of them. You know what I'm saying? They do their thing, man. And I just keep it like that, bro. Like, I keep it like that. I still tell my story.


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[Assistant] I know that it could have been, it's too much, it should have been a docu-series or something. It's too much for a movie.


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[Assistant] And I feel like that's because EZE is resting in peace. I could be wrong, but you know, it feel like Ren was easy man.


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[Assistant] So, you know what I mean? It would have took Eric Wright to make sure Ren's parts were, you know what I mean? More, you know, what it was. But overall, I really loved it, man. It was a great movie. You know what I'm saying? I went to the premiere. You know what I mean? Uhm, actually, Dre showed me some shit when the guys were doing their auditions.


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[Assistant] And cause I was like the main star. I can't remember the main guy who plays easy. I can't remember his name, but, um, he's a great actor.


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[Assistant] I was like, this dude don't look nothing like Eazy E, how he gonna pull this shit off? And after watching his audition tape, I was like, damn, I thought I was looking at Eazy E, bro.


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[Assistant] So they did a great job, you know, the movie house was packed.


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[Assistant] It was a great time and it just felt great, man, to see that movie, man.


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[Assistant] I don't think they could ever do a real death row movie because it's too much street shit.


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[Assistant] And even the end, see I was the final chapter of the film. That story still is untold.


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[Assistant] You know how many people got killed during that period? You know how many people went to the pen during that period? You know how many times they raided the office and took the computers and all that shit out of there and motherfuckers, undercovers posing as bodyguards trying to get jobs and


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[Assistant] Shootouts at the studios and all kinds of crazy shit, so. Did that ever work? Security guards that are actually under covers? Man, from uh, yo, right before I landed, they told me that there was one in there. Wow. That got hired.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? That's insane. That's fucking crazy. That's why I tell these young guns out here, you think they're not watching you?


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[Assistant] Your text messages are in that evidence file.


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[Assistant] I don't give a fuck what you're talking about, you know what I'm saying? Those pictures of y'all just having lunch, shooting the shit, those pictures have been taken.


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[Assistant] They putting tracking devices under motherfuckers cars and shit, man, while you at the restaurant. This shit is real. And people, you know, I know they get viral or they get attention and we in an attention era, so they don't really give a fuck.


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[Assistant] That shit, that shit is real. We gotta be real careful with this shit.


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[Assistant] You know, cause then 6ix9ine and X kinda communicate about, you know, being more careful and shit.


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[Assistant] I think so, I think, I think they show some kind of screenshot with them DMing each other saying, you know, that they need to be more careful or something like that and then look at how both of those stories ended up. I mean, out of that world.


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[Assistant] Bro, they used to laugh, the goons used to laugh at me at Death Row cause I was young.


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[Assistant] And I, I used to come, like we was going certain places where I knew enemies were showing up because people didn't look at it like a label, they looked at it like a game. They didn't give a fuck. And you know, that death row chain was a, was a trophy. You know what I'm saying? I wear a bulletproof vest. Packed a P-89.


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[Assistant] That's a hell of a luncheon. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Damn, he's fucking the game up, man. He's doing some great things, bro. Like, that shit is amazing to watch.


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[Assistant] I got an artist I'm looking at right now out of Memphis. Uhm, you know what I'm saying, so.


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[Assistant] I'm thinking about really getting involved with his career. You know what I'm saying? He's dope. He has a backstory. That's incredible. Young, hungry, intelligent, you know what I mean? And I just, I don't like to complain about shit. If I don't see enough of something in the game, I try to provide it.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? So I'm like, yo, get off the couch.


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[Assistant] I've done business shit on the executive side. You know, uh, um, co-executive produced this album, uh, called Forever MC. Uh, we had everybody on that bitch, uh, Ray Kwan, fuckin'.


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[Assistant] E40, Snoop, Tek9, Game, Lupe, like all these people, you know what I mean, that we rounded up for this particular project. It came out real dope. So I got my hands in shit like that. Uhm, but yeah, I definitely have a vision. Like one day I just sat down in my motherfucking chair.


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[Assistant] And I envision the rest of my life damn near. Really? Yeah, you know what I mean? And I envision all the steps that I want to take musically.


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[Assistant] And I think, I'm superstitious like that. I think God'll talk to you three times, and if you don't listen on that third time, you out.


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[Assistant] And I got like two, two times, and it was like, okay, you know.


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[Assistant] Can you get specific? Uh, on one I can. Okay. You know what I'm saying? On one, it was just, I had caught this DUI. How many you got total? I got two. Okay. Uhm, I caught a DUI, second DUI, and uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, they were like, okay, you're going to get a little jail time. Nice and easy. They got pay to stay. A lot of people don't know about that.


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[Assistant] If you get something, you know, you only gotta go do a month.


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[Assistant] You know, three weeks or some shit, you can pay $89 a day to be housed in, in a facility where you got access, you can read books and you know, you can watch TV. Some of these motherfuckers right in your cell. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I did that move on them.


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[Assistant] But it was crazy cause I did this show called One Shot for BET.


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[Assistant] You've been on the road, you know that's cool. 89? What? I'm out here chilling, you know what I'm saying? And I did this TV show, and there's a rap competition called One Shot. We did, I did it, and uh, BET picked it up, and it was like 15, 2015 or whatever.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, great show. Sway hosting it.


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[Assistant] You know, Khaled, TI had all these great guests, you know, all these rappers, these young rappers fucking changed their life. They're floating on air. We did the last episode in New York and you know, I had Remy Mize, a special guest host. I had Rapsody performing.


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[Assistant] And to see it become a reality, you know what I mean? So after, I'm on a high.


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[Assistant] I'm coming back from New York. We just did the finale. I'm happy as hell. I gotta turn myself in the next day.


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[Assistant] Because of some old DUI shit, you know what I'm saying? So now I went from up here to sitting in a cell and even though it was a pay to stay, every cell ain't pay to stay. So the ones next to me, I got tweakers, you know, they fucking can't do drugs. They fucking yelling all night. I can't sleep. I'm sitting in here like, man, what the fuck am I doing in here?


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[Assistant] You know what, I was a functional alcoholic, I could still do my work and that's what made it even more dangerous because I felt like, hey, I'm handling my business.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? I drunk a bottle of Jameson a day.


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[Assistant] Dude, I love that motherfucking Jameson dog. And I, you know, it just, it was that time. So it was like, yo, I just stopped cold turkey. You know what I'm saying? I went through the withdrawals, fucking handshaking and shit. You know what I'm saying? Waking up in the morning. It got kind of bad at some times, you know what I mean? But I thugged it out.


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[Assistant] I had some good times bro, we drunk like a motherfucka absent.


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[Assistant] Fighting an actual tree. I thought you meant I was like fighting weed. No, I was fighting an actual tree. Okay. On absinthe. Hallucinating and shit. Uh huh. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I woke up the next morning in my room and knuckles all fucked up. I'm like, god damn, what the fuck was going on? So you're angry drunk at times?


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[Assistant] I think I had levels. I had happy, emotional, angry. You know what I'm saying? So if I'm just happy and I'm drunk, alright cool. But then if I drink more and more and more, I might move to an emotional stage where it's like,


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[Assistant] Damn, man, I might shed a tear over a dead homie or somebody in my family or something like, you know what I'm saying? And shit like that and then I'll get angry and shit. You know what I mean? So, uh, it's good, man. They call, they call me Eastside Crook when I get angry off, off Jameson.


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[Assistant] Somehow the universe, whatever you want to call it, attracts that picture to you.


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[Assistant] You wanna be like, nigga, fuck you. You fuck with me, you know it's on.


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[Assistant] You know, you, you keep it. Some, I know some people 50, 60 years old who still got that mindset. You know what I mean? So. We're still hyped on it.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, shh. Go to the pool hall in Long Beach. You're gonna see some 50, 60 year old dudes in there seawalking. You know what I'm saying? And they mean, you know, don't come at them.


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[Assistant] I want them to, I want them to grow. I want them to experience things. I want them to travel.


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[Assistant] You know, I want them to open their mindset. You know, I just want that. Like, you know what I mean? So it's kinda like, damn.


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[Assistant] I get it, cause there's a lot of fascinating things about the streets.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of shit that you look- That's all we used to look up to.


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[Assistant] So all you see is the dope dealer on rims.


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[Assistant] I hung around people older than me. I dropped out of school real young and nobody else in my age group was dropped out.


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[Assistant] So I only had to, I had to hang with older dudes. So they gave me a lot of game. You know what I'm saying? And I had some genuine.


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[Assistant] You know, if I shoot, I'm going to the pen. You know, it's your first offense. You do it.


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[Assistant] You know, it's just, it's easy to get caught up out there. If I'm walking down the street with my homeboy and somebody jump on me and you know, I'm jumping in and then now I got an enemy. You feel me? So it's a balance, man. You gotta really walk that line and just, you know, I found out that being a man, that's what's really, that's what's really gangster. Just being a man.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, I mean, paying my mother's rent, that was gangster to me. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Making sure that my kids got college funds, gangster. You know what I'm saying? Things like that is what attracts me. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I see em man. I see em come from little kids, 8 years old, 7 years old, to 19 year old killers.


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[Assistant] It's like damn, I remember you was just playing video games and you didn't have a care in the world. Now, you, you, you're a killer.


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[Assistant] You know, it's just, and it's sad, you know what I'm saying? But I get it. I get it, you and that environment, so.


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[Assistant] Gotta do what you gotta do, you know what I mean? But, we gon' try to...


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[Assistant] You know, that's one of my life missions too. You know, is to really try to help rebuild the hood. You know what I mean? And be very charitable. I'm always charitable anyway. But you know, just to show love.


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[Assistant] I would talk to them when they were 15 on some kitty shit. Like, yo.


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[Assistant] You playin' Xbox? Scoot over, let's play Xbox. Right. Not knowin'. They fuckin' bitches.


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[Assistant] Already. Right. They hanging out with dudes doing drugs.


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[Assistant] They infatuated with certain hood people and they think they claim in the game.


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[Assistant] And I learned from my nephews like, yo, you better be real with your son. Cause look what happened with your nefs. Now they good now.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And he's smart. You know, I said, what you tell motherfucker when they, when they trying to get you to join they hood or, you know, they trying to get you to, to, to do something. He said, dad, I'll tell them I'm an athlete. Right. He's like.


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[Assistant] Easy call. Easy call for him. Yeah, it made me super proud, bro. So, you know, that's what it is, man. Traveling the world, you know, you get to meet different people, see different people, you see what we all have in common, you see people


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[Assistant] You got same goals as you have and shit like that and you start, your mind opens. You know what I mean? So it's like, yo, let me pour some of this, I'ma pour the best part to me and to my son.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Like, he don't see, like, around me, he not, he not gonna hear a bunch of music that he not supposed to hear.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? It's not for me, because when you get old enough, you can play it. I know you're playing it with your friends. Right. That's cool, but when you come around Pops, it's gonna be a code of honor and some respect in this house. What crosses the line?


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[Assistant] If he came in here and he was out, you know, if I probably heard him singing along to some lyrics and cussing up a storm, you know, cause you know, when he visits me, you know, he got his own room, he got everything, you know, so I'm like, yo, I try to ease off. I try to give him some freedom, you know, cause he's, he's becoming a man.


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[Assistant] Nah dog, we not finna have no, uh, uh, I don't want that phone call. Yeaah. You know, when I was 15, that's the first time a motherfucker tried to kill me, you know what I'm sayin'? You know, I got into a fight with some dudes, me and my brother and my cousin Doc, and you know, handled it, jumped in the car, drove off with the homie Jimmy G, and the fucking, his carburetor was fucked up. They were following us in the car, cause they just got beat up. And when he hit the corner, his car shut off. And they ate that bitch up.


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[Assistant] Like, you know what I'm saying? My brother got shot and, you know, I'm 15 and I have to process this shit.


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[Assistant] Wow. You know what I mean? So I start packing guns every day. I started being like, I'm not going to be a victim type of shit. And it took me through a real crazy phase in my life when I should have been focused on my future and, you know, education and shit like that. So I know where you can go. I don't want that for my son, no way, no how. You know what I mean? It ain't cute to me.


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[Assistant] You gon' be cool, you gon' get your education, you gon' be smart, you gon' get a self-education, you gon' get a financial education, you gon' do, if your basketball dream don't work,


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[Assistant] You gon' still be cool. You know what I mean? And have a good head on your shoulders.


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[Assistant] And the cops roll by, they don't think that you just a kid out here having fun. They looking at you, you taller than me down there.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Let's go, let's go flex on him. You know what I mean? And I gotta get it in his mind, you know, like, yo, look at Tamir Rice, 12 years old, toy gun.


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[Assistant] Murdered. You know what I'm saying? Look at these kids that get shot up by the police.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause it was wild when we was young. We was fuckin' bitches in the fuckin' back in the alley of the venue. You know what I'm sayin'?


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[Assistant] Hi, whatever it was, going to the strip club after the show, you know, missed the tour bus, tour bus pull off, you know, gotta ride with the bitch you just met. That's dangerous, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Having bitches in your room where you lay with your fucking jewelry around and fucking money from the show and shit, you know what I mean? Like, we doing wild shit, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] That is like, yeaah, I could chill now. You know what I'm saying? But I have to, because we put ourselves in dangerous situations.


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[Assistant] End up at somebody's fucking after party and they got fucking chopper laying against the wall. You know what I'm saying? And you fucking out of town, you naked, you don't got no fucking pistol. You know, you get in an argument with the wrong dude in my inn. You know what I'm saying? So you just, I just move a lot smarter. I'm older now. I act my age.


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[Assistant] Mongoose, you know what I'm sayin'? That's all we fuckin' wanted. We used to steal them shits, man, but the karma used to come back quick. But we used to steal them fuckin' bikes, man. I was really deep into that shit, like I could build a fuckin' bike off of spare parts and put it together and all that shit. Oh, that's pretty official, yea. Yea, you know what I'm sayin'?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I always want to ask an expert on that level, you know what I'm saying? Because we used to just be infatuated with that shit, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Bro, he, he's like, Dad, let me do some chores and earn some money. I'm like, alright, cool. Go do this, do that, do this. Give him the money, the cash in his hand. No, I don't want cash.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, I used to give my, my, um, euros and you know, whatever to my kids and shit so they could keep it and shit, but you right.


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[Assistant] You have, like, I was out there working with Scott Storch years back, and he pulled up in the Phantom, Puff in the other room, he got the Bentley out there, Timberland Pring, the Porsche 911 through, somebody got a tour bus laid out in the parking lot, and then right across the street, you see poverty. Right through the gate.


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[Assistant] You see these motherfuckers up there, they trying to look and see who's in the studio and-


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[Assistant] Sheets hanging up instead of curtains and just pour and I'm like damn just right across the fucking street.


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[Assistant] But now, pfft, I don't even give a fuck dawg. Like, I literally will walk to the grocery store from my house. You know what I'm saying? And motherfuckers will pull over like, hey man, you okay? You need a ride? What's going on? You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, nah dude, I'm chilling. You know, I got my headphones on.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, you don't do that in Cali, cause Cali is the car capital, you know, maybe in New York, but out here, they see you walking, they think you broke or you fucked up.


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[Assistant] This materialistic shit is cool, but it ain't gon' last forever. You gotta understand what's really valuable in life. Love, friendship, family, you know what I'm sayin'? Shit like that. So, you know, it's, it's, it's, I'm in a great space, man. I'm just, you know, you, you caught me right here, bro. This is probably in the best mental space that I've been in in my entire life.


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[Assistant] Crooks Corner is just engagement. I just want to talk to the people about what I love, rap music, hip hop. Uhm, we're going to turn it into a visual podcast in April. You know what I mean? So, you know, it'd be a pleasure to have you on the show. You know what I'm saying? Come through, talk.


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[Assistant] You know, I got my little brothers and we started a group called Family Business. Okay. Uhm, we dropped the EP today. It's called Fresh Ink.


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[Assistant] This chick, man, she been following us and she, uh, got the logo tatted on her. It's a brand new brand. Wow. So I used her, her post that she, uh, with the, with the tattoo as the artwork for the EP. And, um, it's dope. It got a lot of good music on there. It ain't just like everybody trying to out rap each other.


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[Assistant] My little brother's got hella skills, uhm, it's a dope EP, we did a whole album with Royce. Oh wow. Yeaah, Royce is producing that.


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[Assistant] So we did, we went to Detroit, stayed out there for a couple weeks, did an entire album, played it for Em, he went bananas. You know what I'm saying? So we, you know, the family business brand that's next, and um, you know, Crooks Corner, and those are my focuses right now, you know what I mean? Just trying to create platforms for up and coming artists, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Um, I'm, I'm the artist, um, director of, uh, branding and development for artists at a company called New Wave Distribution.


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[Assistant] It's a cutting edge digital platform where you could upload your whole album from your phone, artwork, everything, and it will hit every single streaming platform in the world. It's really good and we don't charge like crazy fees like nobody else.


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[Assistant] So it's like, you know, you can, you can cut out the middle man and just chase your dream. So I'm over there doing that and you know.


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[Assistant] I'm just living man, you know what I'm saying? Just, just enjoying myself talking about hip hop everywhere I go and doing what I love.


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[Assistant] All these guys did was just dump money in, do no due diligence, and count their money.


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[Assistant] People who had access to Madoff, whether they were advisors or accountants or attorneys or, or fund of funds, built a sort of a cottage industry of just feeding money to Bernie and it's sort of mushroomed.


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[Assistant] The feeder funds taking, you know, 2 in 20 or 1 in 10, 1% of the assets and 10% of the returns.


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[Assistant] And all these guys did was just dump money in, do no due diligence, and count their money. Amazing.


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[Assistant] The idea behind that was because you had this market making business and market making means you see the trades coming from big institutions and the big concern with market makers is you can step in in front of say Merrill Lynch buying a million shares of IBM and buy your own so that when Merrill buys the million shares the stock goes up a little bit and you make some money.


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[Assistant] October, it's the worst market we've seen in, you know, maybe 70 years. But Bernie's still making money.


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[Assistant] And why would you invest in the equities markets when you could put a substantial portion of your monies into this fund that's generating very consistent returns even in this down market? So it was very appealing to the investors. If anything, people wanted to get money out of the equities markets and move it more into Bernie.


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[Assistant] Because he's the only one making money, consistent money, in this marketplace.


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[Assistant] Here's a guy who thinks he got over on the world for the last 30 years and, uh, doesn't have a bit of remorse. And too bad.


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[Assistant] He would actually pay clients such as Fidelity, Charles Schwab.


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[Assistant] Walter Noel was making an extraordinary amount of money and all he had to do was market.


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[Assistant] And there were many people that just looked at what Fairfield Sentry was doing and said, hey, this is free money.


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[Assistant] People couldn't figure out any other way for him to make money except if he was front running.


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[Assistant] They couldn't make anywhere near the kind of returns that he did, especially in, when markets were falling. But he consistently made money every year, almost every month.


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[Assistant] You don't. Not until we know for sure what happened.


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[Assistant] There are two pieces to a Ponzi scheme. You always have to attract new investment and you have to make sure that all, you don't have a sudden outflow. The key is stability.


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[Assistant] We are here today to announce the arrest of four members of the militant white supremacist group known as the Rise Above Movement.


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[Assistant] Let me show you a picture of one victim. This is Patrick Underwood.


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[Assistant] Uh huh, and then he reaches in, I think his chest area, and grabs a pipe bomb.


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[Assistant] And then the hero knocks that out like Chuck Norris.


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[Assistant] And it flies. And then when he grabbed the pistol, I believe it was in his boot.


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[Assistant] And, uh, then when he held it to his head, that's when...


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[Assistant] Among the counter-terrorism community, we took it very seriously, but you really do need that presidential-level leadership saying, this is a threat, we are going to use all of our tools to go after this threat. That never happened under Trump.


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[Assistant] Does Antifa exist? It's not an organization, it's a movement. You have groups of people.


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[Assistant] And was using rhetoric like, you gotta take your, your state back, you gotta push back against your governor. Now not all of them are going to radicalize, not all of them are going to commit an act of violence. But that is a huge pool of people to be vulnerable.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, we have active white supremacist organizations, neo-Nazis, uhm, we have a Boogaloo Boys movement looking for


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[Assistant] Uh, ways to attack our country, ways to commit acts of violence.


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[Assistant] America of Liberty. I think a lot of people woke up to that in these past four years.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't say that he's necessarily helped erode it further. I think he's just helped spotlight it further. I believe a lot of people were already skeptical. Uhm, and then I think there are some that saw the President of the United States being skeptical and said, maybe we should too.


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[Assistant] There are boogaloo cells within the movement. We have a fire team. Or, you know, four people, five people, six people, whatever. Uhm, and those teams have a leader that they answer to generally. As far as a leader for the movement itself, uhm, no, there's not a leader.


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[Assistant] They did what should happen across the United States in a lot of places. They were going to take a stand against what they perceived to be tyranny.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of people in the movement knew who Steve was. So you messaged with him? I'm not gonna comment.


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[Assistant] I think that a lot of them will take care of themselves while they're in.


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[Assistant] Uh, when they get out, we'll welcome them with open arms. Uhm, or we have a revolution and we free them. When things pop off, we're gonna be liberating them first. Are you worried that more people are gonna get wrapped up? Yeah, more than likely. So, I just hope they go out shooting.


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[Assistant] Killing the ones who come to enforce unconstitutional law. So be it. We're past the point of peace.


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[Assistant] I think about a revolution against the government. I do believe it's inevitable.


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[Assistant] Frontline's American Insurrection is available on Amazon Prime Video.


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[Assistant] Ramsey? Correct. Oh, yeah, good call. I forgot about Ramsey. Who's their fifth guy? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Now that we've had a chance to catch up with the big stories from over the holidays, it's time to sweep up the little pine needles that dropped off the news tree and bring them to you in our roundup of small but highly flammable debris I call... MEANWHILE!


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[Assistant] After a lot of controversy and back and forth with Kevin Hart, no one will host the Oscars. Instead, Oscar producers are planning to leave the spot empty and instead focus on clusters of top tier talent to introduce different segments. Which explains the new reality show, America's Got Clusters of Top Tier Talent.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, great news for fans of the sky, cause this month we'll witness a super blood wolf moon. Not to be confused with my goth dad band of the same name.


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[Assistant] We play Saturday Afternoons at the Milford Community Center if Alan's wife doesn't need the minivan. Come on Alan. Now why is this called a super blood wolf moon? It's super because the moon is at its closest point in orbit to the earth which makes it look bigger.


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[Assistant] It's a blood moon because, uh, diffracting light turns it red. And Native Americans named January's moon the Wolf Moon because in winter it would make wolves howl. And not, as I thought, because it is when Wolf Blitzer must slake his thirst for the blood of innocence.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, in fine arts and cat news, a BBC art expert revealed that a rare painting was destroyed by his cat. You know your painting's bad when someone who licks their own anus for three hours a day doesn't like it. I mean the cat, not the historian.


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[Assistant] The work in question was a painting by 17th century portrait artist John Michael Wright. I assume the portrait the cat went after was his Duchess of Hampstead with laser pointer.


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[Assistant] According to the disgraced art expert, he was actually working on restoring the work of art when the cat launched itself at the painting before raking its claws down the middle of the portrait to leave a large gaping hole.


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[Assistant] The cat is reportedly expressing its remorse by doing whatever it wants whenever it wants and somehow demanding cuddles while also not allowing you to touch it.


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[Assistant] In prophylactic news, Durex is recalling batches of its real-feel condoms. Durex issued a recall in a statement saying,


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[Assistant] You know folks, sometimes I get so focused on the smaller stories and meanwhile I lose sight of the really small and airline specific news stories. Which I like to cover in my regular Meanwhile segment, segment Flight Attention.


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[Assistant] Good news for people whose favorite restaurant is a flight circling over LaGuardia. Because United Airlines has released a cookbook so you can make airline food at home.


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[Assistant] The book contains 40 recipes that are served in United's business class. For the economy class recipes, you'll have to buy their other cookbook, Pretzels or Cookies, You Get One.