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[Assistant] It was cold in there? It was cold because it was like one of those extension things, like it didn't have no heating source. And I remember reading in this chapter, like blew my mind. I was like, is the universe going to end in a big crunch or a big rip? And I was like, mom, mom, universe is over.


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[Assistant] You know, you know the difference between, you know, when you have surgery on one leg or you have surgery on the other. Uhm, I've torn my ACL in my left knee and the right knee and when I had ACL surgery on the left knee,


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[Assistant] I was like, oh, this is neat. This is, I actually had the feeling of...


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm better than I was before, right? Like, I was a predominantly left foot jumper off one leg.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, man, I still feel explosive off this leg. Now this right one, I felt like I was...


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[Assistant] So I think it's a product of, of Deshaun being like, man, this is, I got taken care of. I'm throwing the ball easy.


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[Assistant] You know, even when he was there, as we was covering the event.


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[Assistant] He wasn't visibly anything with his arm. He was doing some stuff back in the kitchen, signing autographs. And it just looked like, it looked like he was healthy. Like it looked like it wasn't something wearing on him.


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[Assistant] Last year, when he talked about his shoulder and the nagging, you could kind of tell in his demeanor, because sometimes he didn't even want to talk.


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[Assistant] When he said that, I remember spending two calendar years just rehabbing.


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[Assistant] And I remember the first time I stepped back on the field and guys that were not as quick, guys that weren't as big or strong, guys that you just had a natural, you know, natural talent gap between


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[Assistant] All those guys had passed you and gotten better. And it was the most frustrating thing in the world because I'm like...


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[Assistant] I'm still the same. These dudes, and this guy's this walk-on guy, I'm like, you can see guys get better and faster and stronger and you're less effective and then, and then the most frustrating part was you gotta spend more time


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[Assistant] What happens if, because you know you're good, but that 5% is always there.


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[Assistant] Everything he's been through the last three years. And even when you throw that, you know, my dad used to always tell me, you know, I played three sports and sometimes, you know, I would just be like, nah, I'm just tired of going to practice. Like, can I just play the games? Oh yeah. And he's like, listen, the second you


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[Assistant] Stop playing year round. If you stop playing baseball for a year, if you stop playing basketball for a year, especially those two, you can play football. He said, but even when you got football, when you take a year off, when you get back, it's going to be different.


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[Assistant] Again, speed of the game, you gotta adjust to it and people have gotten better.


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[Assistant] And we've seen, like, let alone, we talk about the, you know, you playing the quarterback position. There's other things that go into it, like,


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett can force himself to like play with after a car accident.


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[Assistant] And still be slightly effective on pass rushes because he has his legs, he has other things that he can use to perfect the game. Deshaun Watson has to have, not only have to have the mental aspect.


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[Assistant] He has to have the emotional aspect together. He has to be able to throw the ball with power. We don't know whether or not that affects his arm strength.


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[Assistant] And you gotta deal with the, the, the accuracy standpoint. Like, does it affect your accuracy? Can he throw the ball where he wants to throw the ball? How pinpoint is he? Does he have an arm to fit it in there? See, that's difficult. If you come back and you say,


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[Assistant] You know, think about it. They got camp arm, right? It's the thing called camp arm and fatigue. So before he's gone through it and said, oh, just a camp fatigue. But what happens if you get back and say, but my arm.


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[Assistant] It gets fatigued sometimes now. Like, I didn't do that before. Sure. And a lot of people have to change their game, uhm, based upon injuries and it's tough for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] For body, I ain't gonna lie, I had Deshaun Kaiser. Six foot four, 240.


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[Assistant] I'd be fine with Anderson. I would like to keep Anderson somewhere else. Because we ain't got much to pull from.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Flacco. He throws the ball through it. Flacco Valley it is. Yeah, it is. There he goes.


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[Assistant] He avoided many more sacks than he actually had. Can you imagine what he would have had? There was a time when I just felt like he was a tackling dummy. Like every time he would drop, I would get excited when they get the ball off. Right. It was a success. Well at least he got the ball away.


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[Assistant] Nah, I actually like this quarterback. He's big, he's strong, he's very fast.


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[Assistant] He's not that accurate, but you know, he has pocket awareness.


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[Assistant] I err on the side of getting it done. I know people say, well, let's just rehab and strengthen the muscles around. You know, I may sound dumb, but I don't know ligaments that held on their own too well.


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[Assistant] Matt, you know, uhm, they talk about the quarterback position and this year is no different. You always see two or three quarterbacks, uhm, that are, you know, coveted, taking a little bit higher than they should. I've seen mock drafts where there's as high as six.


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[Assistant] Do you think that's a bit much and what is your prediction on?


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[Assistant] How many quarterbacks will ultimately be taken in the first round?


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, uh, I'm all into Operation Stockpile. You may not have heard of it. Uh, it swept the nation. The Cleveland Browns are stockpiling people. They even stockpile quarterbacks and coaches now. Uh, I'm looking to get another receiver. Which one of these guys do you think will be available at 54 between Xavier LeGette


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[Assistant] Uhm, uh, Piersol, or from, uh, Florida. Uhm, Troy Franklin or, or Lad McConkie. Which one of those guys could potentially be on the board at 54?


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[Assistant] Well, I think they, you know, like Bull said earlier, they might be in between a position where they're thinking, look, we, uh, we made a little run last year, uhm, we won a playoff game, we got a quarterback on a rookie contract.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we wanna see if we can catch lightning in a bottle. Maybe we get hot.


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[Assistant] We have Nico Collins, we brought in Joe Mixon, Tank Dale is coming back from an injury. So now we add one of the best receivers in the league to a very young team on the turf. And they look like they can be a contender. And it works out well because


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[Assistant] For both sides. If you're Stefan Diggs, you're saying, okay, well, I can go, there's a, I'm gambling by taking, you know, an opportunity to go play for a new team in a rookie quarterback or a second year quarterback. My numbers may go down a little bit, but I'm getting all my guaranteed money up front.


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[Assistant] Now I get to go back to free agency, get another bite at the apple.


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[Assistant] And if I have a great year, now I can put myself in position to get a really nice bag.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I can hit free agency again, and, and, and go to, and have a choice where I want to go. So, it works well, and it gives cat flexibility to the Texans. If he turns out to be not a great ris- he doesn't turn out to be what they thought he was, maybe he's an explosive, maybe he lost a step.


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[Assistant] They get out in three years and they, you know, wipe your hands free, get, go back into the, uh, you know, free agency, go get another quarterback or a receiver and go draft a receiver.


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[Assistant] And CJ Strout has had, I mean, look at the receivers he had throwing to the Ohio State.


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[Assistant] People rave about C.J. Stroud's, like, leadership and just how he is. Just, you know, just...


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[Assistant] Because, you know, Deshaun is very connected still in Houston, right? And they still like him down in Houston. There's a lot of people that still do. Do you think he looks at that, the Houston Texans team and says, I gotta, I gotta get my team on that level?


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[Assistant] Will you look at them and you look at the way CJ Stroud played?


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[Assistant] And then you look at what they got. CJ Stroud has made people in Houston forget about Deshaun Watson. Right, right. And I think, I think one of the things that he feels is like,


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[Assistant] I need to, I need to make people remember who I am.


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[Assistant] And maybe I didn't notice it maybe because I was a kid or there was no social media. There was nothing. I didn't have an internet. I didn't have cable until I was in my twenties. I had four, five, I had, I had, uh, let's see, two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven, thirteen. I had seven TV channels until I was in my twenties. That was it. Here's what I will give you. But what I was going to say real quick is that I love where I grew up.


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[Assistant] At this point in my life, I wouldn't want to live in Brooklyn, but as a kid...


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[Assistant] Race, religion, it didn't matter. I, I knew everybody. I had friends that were black, that were Italian, that were Irish, that were Jewish, that were Chinese. It was everything. And I, I thought, I think it's a great way to grow up because I think a lot of people


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[Assistant] But anyway, a lot to get to today. Obviously we'll be here on YouTube as always, but till, uh, just about 12.30 and then at 12.30 we'll be on Channel 3 WKYC. We'll talk about all three teams coming up in the final half hour of the show. A lot of Brown stuff to get to in the beginning of the show. Let's say hello to Mike. Mikey?


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[Assistant] Yeah, oh yeah, a lot. Go ahead, so, go ahead mate.


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[Assistant] Sorry, that's serviceable. I expect more from you, Mike. You're supposed to be our basketball aficionado here.


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[Assistant] Oakland was a division, wasn't Oakland, hasn't that coach been there forever and they never wanted to?


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[Assistant] Right. So shout out to him. But didn't, didn't, uh, wasn't Oakland a Division 2 team and the coach has been there like 50 years and they never won a tournament game? Or am I thinking of another team?


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[Assistant] But no, no, no, there's a team where the coaches, one of the teams that won yesterday was an upset. I think it is Oakland. Their coach was there forever. When he first started there, they were division two and, and then they've been in division one for a while.


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[Assistant] And two things, number one, Darren was all over you and G. Bush the other day, especially you.


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, forget it, forget it. By the way, I was right about the Oakland thing. The coach has been there 40 years. And they were division two when he first started and he never won a NCAA tournament game.


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[Assistant] Did you see this? So what's her name? The Red Panda? You know that woman who does all the, like, the plates?


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[Assistant] You know, before we answer this, I have to address something first real quick. And it's the fact that


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[Assistant] And Tyvis knows this. Tyvis is a good guy, so he wasn't involved with this nonsense. But when you're a professional athlete, you have women all over you. Whenever you want, right? When you're a professional athlete.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter. You could be the ugliest guy on the face of the earth and you're getting women, right? That's a fact. Right? Doesn't matter. I saw it in minor league baseball when I was doing the lowest level of minor league baseball where six of the hundred guys I did games for made the majors. Only six.


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[Assistant] Okay, and only four were like real major leaguers where they played for a long time. The other two had like...


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[Assistant] Two with bats in the majors. And even the ugliest guys in A-ball were getting women. Jason McCourty has got to be one of the best looking guys I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] And I'm confident in myself enough, and I'm not uptight, I know, I know, half of you are like, oh my god, Earl especially, he freaks out with that type of stuff. He's getting all uncomfortable. Jason McCourty, can you imagine what girls he was getting?


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[Assistant] Oh my god. Alright, are the Browns, because the rest of you are so uptight and uncomfortable, moving on.


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[Assistant] He's been really good. Now he hasn't played great every game.


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[Assistant] Is the AFC North is the toughest division. So what's going to be hard for anybody in the AFC North?


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[Assistant] To end up with a better record than the Chiefs and have home field advantage.


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[Assistant] I mean, you could tell me he's not good in the playoffs? I'm telling you where he been. 21 touchdowns, 4 interceptions. No AFC Championship.


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[Assistant] That has something to do with Playmaker's offense. Wait a minute, defense ain't important. They got a good running back. Josh Allen is at worst the third best quarterback in the league, no? At worst. Who you putting second?


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[Assistant] I think you're blowing that up bigger than it is. To me, when you have the quarterback, that's the most important thing. You're always going to lose a few pieces. That's going to happen sometimes. To overtake the Chiefs?


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[Assistant] Go Bucs. There it is. So you're saying that the difference between Curtis Samuel and Gabe Davis is going to make the bill significantly worse on defense? No, because Curtis Samuel


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[Assistant] The Bills won a playoff game last year, did they not? The Browns did not. You guys are looking at me as I'm, I'm nuts. I think, I think if you ask new, first of all, if you ask neutral fans, who's more likely to beat the, the Chiefs? The Browns or the Bills? More people would say the Bills than the Browns. And you guys are looking at me like I'm out of my mind.


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[Assistant] If Baker Mayfield beat Joe Burrow, is he better? He has a winning record against Burrow, is he better than Burrow? So, don't ask me that question.


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[Assistant] All I know is, they still have their best quarterback, they still have their best running back, they still have their best wide receiver, and they have a young tight end that showed a ton of promise last year.


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[Assistant] I go Bills, uh, Bengals 1, Bills 2, Browns 3, Texans 4, Ravens 5.


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[Assistant] Done it. But the Browns were better than the Bengals last year. Joe Burrow was hurt. Well, so was the Shawn Watson.


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[Assistant] I want to say he went like four and three or five and three, something like that.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so we all agree that the Browns have had a good run here in free agency.


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[Assistant] But for some players, there may be disappointment, because when you add a bunch of free agents,


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[Assistant] That means guys that were on the roster that maybe thought they were going to get more of an opportunity may now get less of an opportunity to perform.


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[Assistant] After being a team that for decades had no depth.


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[Assistant] Now have, in most of their position groups I would say,


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[Assistant] Very good depth, especially at running back, quarterback, and defensive line.


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[Assistant] To some degree wide receiver. And corner even. So there's a lot of depth. So who on the Browns that was here?


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[Assistant] Is the biggest loser in free agency, in other words, you thought, maybe that guy thought he was, hey, I was going to have a chance to start, or I was going to be the third corner, or I was going to be the third, the fourth pass rusher, and now I'm further down the depth chart because of something the Browns did. Uh, Tyvis, why don't we start with you again.


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[Assistant] I, I agree with, I agree with Tivus. I don't think...


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[Assistant] I think the only way Tyler Huntley's on this roster at the start of the season is if Deshaun Watson's not ready to play.


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[Assistant] I agree with G that Tyler Huntley gives you a better chance to win by a little bit right now, but I agree with Tyvis that they, I don't believe that they'll keep Tyler Huntley.


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[Assistant] I think, to me this is all about them being extra cautious if Watson's not ready to go. I think Tyler Huntley is more likely to be able to put on the practice squad than DTR.


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[Assistant] Now remember, either way they might have to keep three quarterbacks on the roster, which they never did last.


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[Assistant] But don't you agree that Tyler Huntley is more likely to make it onto the practice squad than DTR? Yes.


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[Assistant] Tyler Huntley's played big games, Gee, I agree with you, but I think if you look at DTR, there's upside. I think people are like, Tyler Huntley is what he is.


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[Assistant] Sure, but it's different than last year because they, now they have Jameis as the backup.


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[Assistant] So as opposed to last year when DTR was the backup, and he shouldn't have been. He should have been third string. Let me give you my opinion. Now, I actually agree with Thymus. I think the answer is Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna make a case for Alex Wright. Okay. Okay. So the Browns obviously have brought back all their veteran defensive linemen. All of them. I thought we, I remember thinking at the beginning of free agency that they'd bring back, you know,


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[Assistant] Well, in addition to that, they also signed the guy from the Jets whose name I keep forgetting. Quentin Jefferson. Quentin Jefferson. So they've added four...


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[Assistant] I thought Alex Wright at the end of last year showed a lot of upside and potential. Now he, I don't know if he's gonna necessarily play less, but it's much more crowded with guys who are proven and veterans out there. And maybe Alex Wright, if I was Alex Wright a month ago, I might have been thinking, man, I got a chance to be a starter if I have a great camp. Now he's got no chance to be a starter.


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[Assistant] By the way, 13 games left in the regular season. That's it. For the Caps.


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[Assistant] I got, guys, I think it's definitely Max Struse right now. Uh, Jared Allen.


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[Assistant] Is playing like an absolute beast and a superstar right now.


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[Assistant] And we've seen all year that the calves are better with Jared Allen and for


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[Assistant] Shooters. I didn't say a big man in four shooters. I said Jared Allen in four shooters. Evan Mobley has had kind of a lost season. He hasn't had a good year. He, for a couple of weeks he was trying to shoot threes.


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[Assistant] He's, and then he's been hurt twice. He's kind of lost in the soup right now.


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[Assistant] But, if you say to me, alright, you're getting Donovan Mitchell back, you can only have Struce or Mobley in the playoffs, I think to how this team has played its best basketball,


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[Assistant] Struce is much more, now especially now that you have Morris, because he can play some of those backup minutes at center, if you need him to, uh, and I would say that I would, I want Struce to shooting, and his,


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[Assistant] His game fits how this team plays best with Jared Allen, Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] Obviously, Evan Mobley is a much better player in the grand scheme of things. Well, I shouldn't say much better player. He's a better player in the grand scheme of things. And the big picture, he's probably more important to the franchise. But for this moment in time, this year, and this potential playoff run, I think it's truths.


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[Assistant] I'm curious, Mike, G made the point that he thinks Jared Allen is a better player.


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[Assistant] Then Evan Mobley gave me a bunch of things. One thing I would even add.


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[Assistant] Speaking of LeBron, the Lakers are the 9 seed right now in the West, and the Warriors are the 10. Which team's got a better chance to do anything in the playoff, Mike?


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[Assistant] That there's too much texting going on in the group chat right now. It's enough already.


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[Assistant] So, what about him? We're talking about, we want to talk about the fact that


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, uh, today Jim Boden, long time MLB GM, ranked every team's lineup.


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[Assistant] In Major League Baseball. Where do you think you put the Guardians? Last. Second to last. 25th. Second to last. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] 25th. Here are the lineups. Well, I don't need to look at it because I'm pretty sure I know who it is. The only teams below the Guardians in the lineup are the worst teams in baseball. Okay? Like the Guardians are the only team in that bottom.


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[Assistant] Uh, six or whatever it is that are, in theory, should be competitive for a division.


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[Assistant] But their lineup is so bad that it holds them back. And he made the point of saying, hey, in his write up, he goes, Jose Ramirez is awesome. I expect Andres Jimenez to bounce back this year.


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[Assistant] Kyle Manzardo, once he comes up, will be good. And, uh, Josh Naylor. And he mentioned Josh Naylor. He expects Josh Naylor to have a good season. But he said, but, if the Guardians are gonna make the playoffs, they gotta be a whole lot better than 25th.


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[Assistant] Which is obvious. Now again, they don't have to be number one, but they gotta be number fifteen or somewhere around that. They've gotta be a middle of the road offensive club and have their pitching stay healthy. And it's something we've all alluded to a lot lately is that


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[Assistant] Jose Ramirez took a major discount.


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[Assistant] One of the, it might be, just off the top of my head right now, the largest discount I've ever seen a veteran player take. You know, young players, it's different before they get eligible for free agency. But for a guy who was a year away from becoming a free agent,


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[Assistant] He probably left maybe a hundred million on the table.


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[Assistant] May, I will never know exactly how much he left, but I would say he left around 100 million, and I don't think I've ever seen a player in any sport.


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[Assistant] Leave a hundred million on the table in that kind of way by giving the hometown team. And what has the team done to repay him? Not much.


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[Assistant] I did, but that's not a lot of money. I know, but I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] They traded for, they signed World Series Champion Austin Hedges. Thank you. And they traded for Scott Barlow. Between the two they're making 11 million dollars this year. They did sign one other major league contract.


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[Assistant] Journeyman pitcher Ben Lively for a million dollars. Congratulations.


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[Assistant] You played him every day in center field for the guardians and he stayed healthy. He'd hit at least 25 home runs. He'd be at worst second on the team in home runs. He'd hit 20, he'd hit somewhere between 22 and 32 home runs if he played 130, 140 games. And the Braves signed him for like 4 million dollars.


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[Assistant] There's no excuse for that. And when you look, you know, I was talking, you weren't here yesterday, I was talking, Jim Duquette, who used to be the GM with the Mets, worked with the Orioles too.


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[Assistant] He was on my podcast this week and I asked him about Jose Ramirez and did he think Jose was going to bounce back. Compared to most players, Jose still had a really great year last year, but for him it was a down year.


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[Assistant] Early, especially early. And then he, second half he wasn't as good.


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[Assistant] And I said, you know, do you think Jose is going to bounce back? And he said, you know, honestly, I think the reason his numbers have declined a little bit each year in the last few years is because the lineup around him is so bad that he's now started to swing at a little more bad pitches that he wouldn't have in the past because


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[Assistant] The, the Guardians have screwed this guy. They've screwed him. Now, I, I give him credit for signing him, Enes. I like that move. I know he didn't have a great year last year, but I like the player. I give the Guardians credit for that. It was, it was a good signing. But, they have failed to put enough talent around him, and I think that has hurt his career.


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[Assistant] Wait, Rokeo lady? Arius, Rokeo, and Freeman are all on the roster.


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[Assistant] That's interesting. Cause De La Santos. Well, I kinda like that cause I like Rokeo, Rokeo. I always forget if it's Rokeo or it's Rokeo, right? Rokeo, yes. I should know that. I'm a baseball guy.


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[Assistant] I didn't think he was going to make it either. I'm actually excited about that. I assume he's going to play shortstop every day. I know the thought was Aries would play it.


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[Assistant] But if, if Rokio's on the roster, he's got a player.


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[Assistant] So does that mean, does that mean Jimenez might play shortstop? Cause Roquio I thought was a second baseman. No, no, Roquio's a shortstop, Freeman's a second baseman, but they've been working Freeman in center field.


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[Assistant] So, the fact that either Florio, see I had Florio and Brennan both making the team.


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[Assistant] So the fact that only one of those two, De Los Santos, he's a Rule 5 pick, he should not be on the, if the Guardians are trying to win, you can't have Davison De Los Santos on the roster. He's a Rule 5 pick. Here's the thing, okay? A quick explanation.


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[Assistant] So, the Rule 5 draft happens in December. The Guardians took Davis and De Los Santos in the Rule 5 draft. If you take a guy in the Rule 5 draft, he has to stay on your Major League roster the entire season.


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[Assistant] And if he don't, or, or on the injured list, and if you don't keep him, you can't send him to the minors. You have to offer him back to the team you drafted him from.


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[Assistant] But not as a hitter. So he should be gone. Plus they need another outfielder. I mean, but they're, Tyler Freeman is being looked at as an outfielder. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Because you're gonna keep five outfielders probably, and they're gonna, Florial or Brennan will be the last guy. Now, Florial also cannot be sent to the minors.


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[Assistant] Uh, he has no options left, which means if they, you can try to send them to the minors, but another team can claim them.


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[Assistant] That is really interesting, but I, I gotta text Zach and we'll, we'll, on the first Ultimate Cleveland Guardians show on Monday, we'll talk more about this, but I gotta think this makes, means, Rokeo is, is, I think the starting shortstop.


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[Assistant] My guess is Floreal will get that last spot, they'll send Brennan down, they'll send De Los Santos back to, I can't remember what team they got him from, whatever team.


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[Assistant] And that, my guess is Freeman will be the primary starting center fielder. With Miles Straw playing some against lefties. And, and then Rokeo.


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[Assistant] And Gabriel Arias will play some shortstop and some DH between them. But they've got, they've been waiting on Freeman, Arias, and Roquio. Arias has gotten some opportunity, the other two have barely gotten any.


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[Assistant] I wanna see, if those three guys are there, I want them playing at least 80% of the time. So I kinda like that, I feel a little better about that.


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[Assistant] In terms of Carrasco, the question is, I gotta ask this Zach also, is he gonna be their fifth starter? Because Gavin Williams is starting the year on the injured list.


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[Assistant] So the question is, will Tyler Beatty is a journeyman?


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[Assistant] Like, uh, you know, he could be their fifth starter too.


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[Assistant] Uh, Carrasco obviously has been a great starter in his career, but he was with the Mets last season.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think, uh, Karen Cech, Stefan...


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[Assistant] Gavin Williams, those guys are going to start on the injured list.


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[Assistant] That's true. Yeah, it very much does. It's unfortunate. Alright, we got a special Jameis Winston segment coming up.


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[Assistant] I love how, by the way, I love how like, with Patrick Mahomes, he's like, working with a trainer, he's got like, science on moving his neck in all these directions, and James is like a heavy ball coming at him. Duck! Duck, James!


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[Assistant] This guy, he's got a much more, a green, like a, like, you know.


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[Assistant] I noticed a couple of styles, uh, three things recently that I don't care for, but I don't have much style. You tell me what you think. Number one, people wearing sports coats that are way too big. Yours fits you nicely. That's a good fit. I noticed a lot of people wearing sports coats that are obviously too big on that.


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[Assistant] Is teenage boys with like a mop for hair. White kids. Teenage white kids. Oh, the beaver. With the mop hair. The beaver, I think that's... It's, it's, I'm like, my nephew has got a mop on it. I want to walk up and shave his head.


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[Assistant] 1230 on the dot, put on channel 3, WKYC, we're back for another 30 minute show. We'll see you there on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show.


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[Assistant] And Anthony, chime in, let's hear your ball take. Did he say a 2-7? He said a 2-7, yes he did.


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[Assistant] Via tax money, I'm just not, you know, and I understand, I've been very fortunate in life to like, I can afford some things I wasn't able to when I was younger.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think defense, uh, defense makes the most sense in my opinion, especially after trading for Jerry Judy.


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[Assistant] This offense looks, looks great. You know, it truly does. Uh, you, you've filled a lot of positions. I even think, like a low-key good signing was getting Don Deforeman to be a second or third running back. That was another area I thought. And maybe some depth at running back. I really like the way that room looks right now.


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[Assistant] So I do think defense is an area where, you know, we've seen some additions at linebacker, uh, a backup defensive tackle comes in. So I honestly think you can maybe just sit there and say who's the best defender on the board in that seven round mock draft. I had them grabbing a dividing sweat, the massive nose tackle out of Texas, kind of with the idea of BPA on defense, but also.


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[Assistant] And so people who haven't watched Sweat, I would encourage you to like find the YouTube highlights if you can. He is very, very disruptive despite his size. A lot of people are going to see that and say, oh, he's just a nose tackle. He can absolutely collapse the pocket and we know how much interior pressure is going to help what I think is the best defensive end of football. Miles Garrett coming off the edge.


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[Assistant] Five maybe Bo Nicks or Michael Pinnix Jr. slide in there. I don't think


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[Assistant] Do you really throw them into the mix in the first round? Personally, I don't, but we could, we could certainly see five go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would still take Harrison Jr. as the guy who goes first and who has the better NFL career. So much of that question is, you know, based on where they go, the situation. And that's the fun part. You can watch these guys get drafted by a scheme.


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[Assistant] He went from CJ Stroud with Jackson Smith and Jigba opposite him. Those guys are gone. Everyone in the world knows who's getting the football at Ohio State now. You have an uneven quarterback and Kyle McCord.


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[Assistant] He only had 10 fewer receptions for like 100 fewer yards in the exact same number of touchdowns, despite everyone knowing where the ball was going game after game after game. So his ability to produce without those legends around him.


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[Assistant] So there are other guys who like, they've had a great immediate success. I think what makes Brock unique is, you know, he's not this physical outlier like a Kyle Pitts, but you know, he is 6'3", barely.


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[Assistant] 240 pounds. He's not a, you know, he's not a 4-4 guy. He's just a really, really good football player. More in that Sam Laporta mold. Laporta was, you know, picked in the thirties. So I think that'll be the question of.


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[Assistant] But he actually, he tested pretty poor in terms of acceleration and burst. So I think that's pushing him down a little bit. I actually have like an early round three grade on Franklin. He's a very narrow framed guy, kind of tight-hipped, but when he gets loose deep, good luck stopping him. So I think if you,


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[Assistant] More is a really good receiver as well, so he could come in and be maybe that secondary option, which I think is best for where he's at in his career right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, man, he's a great thrower. Wonderful arm strength.


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[Assistant] Really, really good field vision. He's also a great runner. We saw that 14 rushing touchdowns, uh, last year, the last two years. He's a great runner. And that, that's me. Just it's exactly where the NFL is going. And let's not sleep on what the Bears have done building out this offense. They've done a really nice job of adding, you know, number one weapons for him in the past game.


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[Assistant] Building up the offensive line. They've got two really good tight ends. They've got a deep running back room. So I think Chicago is...


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[Assistant] They haven't yet, we'll get to that in a minute. So they had him for a couple of years, then they signed Hayden Hurst, then last year they signed Irv Smith.


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[Assistant] Alright, so this is legit. We've confirmed it now. Jordan Schultz, breaking news. Free agent quarterback, James Winston is close to finalizing a one-year deal worth up to $8.7 million.


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[Assistant] With the Browns, that's a lot of money for a backup quarterback. Uh, sources tell Bleacher Report, Winston fielded interest from multiple teams and decided this morning that he is going to Cleveland. So we'll get to all the stuff we were gonna get to. Let's start this show, but we gotta begin with the breaking news of Jameis Winston, guys. Quarterback two conversation was coming up. I would change that.


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[Assistant] Anyway, it doesn't matter. He's close to signing, and usually when they're close to signing, it gets done. You rarely hear someone say close to signing and it doesn't happen.


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[Assistant] Well nothing is officially official until tomorrow afternoon anyway, but it looks like Jameis is coming to the Browns, so it will not be Joe Flacco coming back. Instead they go to Jameis, and it seems to me that unless Joe Flacco has an opportunity to start somewhere, which seems unlikely, that the Browns have chosen Jameis over Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] You know yesterday Jay and, and, uh, and Earl were trying to argue that


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[Assistant] I don't know that that's necessarily true, but you could argue that this is, this is part of it is that little more money is being spent. Now, I think a little more money is being spent on everybody right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, listen, I still think Flacco was the way to go, but I got zero problem with James Winston. My first reaction when I saw this rumor yesterday was, oh no, James and Watson in the same locker room? I don't like that. And then, did, you know,


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[Assistant] This side, I actually Googled, has Jameis grown up in recent years? That was my Google, yeaah. And so I started reading articles about him over the last few years, and the consensus seems to be that he has matured in a big time way. He came off as very immature in college in Florida State, and his first couple years in the NFL, but as he's grown up,


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[Assistant] And been seasoned around the league, it seems like he has not only matured as a player, but as a person as well.


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[Assistant] And from everything I read in recent years in New Orleans, he was extremely popular, uh, with the team, a great teammate, and, and so there you go. The one thing I'll say about not bringing Flacco back, and I don't know this, Jason, maybe you can speak to this, or maybe you can't. It seemed to me, first of all, two things here.


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[Assistant] James at this point in his career seems comfortable being a backup. Clearly. Right? I mean he's been a backup for a while.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco still thinks he's a starter. Yes. And he went out and proved it. And he did. For at least five games. Yeaah. Yeaah. So, number two.


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[Assistant] Deshaun and Joe Flacco weren't that friendly. Now I don't know this, it was just a sense.


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[Assistant] Whispers in the breeze, not that they were unfriendly, just that there was not a connection between those two. Yea. And maybe, maybe, maybe, I'm not saying, I don't know, I don't know if Watson has any relationship with James Winston, at least what somebody knew, maybe there's a chance for a better connection.


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[Assistant] Uh, James Winston is one of the best backups in the, I mean, let's face it, James Winston is one of the 32 best quarterbacks in the league. He, he, if you were just, if you had to start the 32 best quarterbacks in the NFL, he'd start.


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[Assistant] Okay, but let me, let me tell you something. If we had put up that same poll 24 hours ago, who would you prefer? It would have been 90%, Joe Fleck. Yes. That's a fact. Yes. That's a fact. Maybe not 90, 80, whatever. It would have been... But now that Brown's picked Jameis, so...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. And he spent more time in New England than here.


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[Assistant] If you had to win three games during the regular season, Jameis or Jacoby?


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna, believe it or not, I'm about to defend Baker Mayfield, if you can believe that. Some reporters said, maybe Sam Darnold can be this year's Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Uh, I like it guys. He's a, now the one concern obviously is his age. He's gonna be 32 I believe this summer.


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[Assistant] But he's been a highly productive player. He's been a highly healthy player. Now you can say, well, that's not fair. He just missed four games this past season, which is true. And maybe that's where he's headed. But before, so he played 13 out of 17 games this year. Before this year,


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[Assistant] He had played 66 out of 66 games the four seasons before that, all as a starter. In fact, every game he's played in the NFL, but I think a couple in his rookie year have been as a starter. He's been productive. He's got good numbers, both traditionally in terms of tackles.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was third in the Vikings in tackles despite playing 13 games. In fact, he was on pace for his second most tackles in his career last year before the injury, which was not a serious injury. It was something with his arm. I can't remember what it was.


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[Assistant] And he's a better player than Taki Taki or Anthony Walker.


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[Assistant] Let's hold this for now, cause we're gonna get to Taki Taki later. But he did went to the Patriots.


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[Assistant] You never know, as we said, the Browns have not spent significant money at the linebacker position.


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[Assistant] Uh, listen, how about this? We got breaking news here. Joe Mixon not cut. He's traded to the Texans. I'm sure the Bengals didn't get much in return, do we know?


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[Assistant] Joe Mixon traded to the Texans. That's a good move for the Texans. They didn't really have a running back. So where is Derrick Henry going to end up? It's still, Baltimore still makes the most sense, or Dallas. You think he'll end up in one of those spots. Alright, uh, let's talk about, so the Browns, until the Jamis News broke this,


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[Assistant] As we were starting the show, the only, Hicks was the only addition the Browns had made, but they have brought back


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[Assistant] But, you look at his, some of the advanced statistics on him, in terms of pass rush, he's not good against the run. In terms of the pass rush, pass rush win rate, all these things, he graded out pretty well in those things. He's getting a decent amount of money, a little raise, and it's a two year deal. What do you think about bringing Zedaria Smith back?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you make a great point. I hadn't really thought about the Miles Garrett part of it that much. It's an excellent point, Jason. It's probably a big part of the reason why they did bring him back.


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[Assistant] Miles and the Jadevion did not have good chemistry. Right? Like Jadevion complained about it basically when he went out the door.


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[Assistant] You know, I could have Naheem Hines catch passes. He's better than Jerome Ford at catching passes. He's not that old. How old is Naheem Hines? 27?


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[Assistant] I mean, the guy's a pretty solid returner, if I remember correctly. He's a very good third down back, so.


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[Assistant] He was special at it. I do. I mean he was all pro at it. Yea, yea, right. He was an all pro. Yea, fair enough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in terms of an offensive player, Heinz is better. Listen, we're talking lower end of the roster, but I know we're not winning.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, you know, part of the reason I know him is because of fantasy football and like on bye weeks, he'd be a guy you could pick up and hope he'd get eight catches that week. 64 yards in a touchdown. So he is a guy that, listen, I don't know where he is. He only played nine games two years ago. He didn't play last year. I didn't realize that when I was looking at the stats. I didn't remember that.


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[Assistant] So he's only played nine games the last two years, so who knows how reliable he's gonna be? Let me ask you guys this. Does the fact...


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, so he played, and then he missed a whole year last year. Let me ask you guys this. Does this move, the fact that they've signed Nahim Hanz?


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[Assistant] We knew that, we assume that in free agency you're only adding one back.


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[Assistant] Lock, lock up that they're definitely going to find a way to bring Nick Chubb, to keep Nick Chubb. Yes. Right. They probably feel pretty good about it. Right.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you, Jason, we all thought they would have to cut down the cap number on Chubb, and they're gonna have to cut down the cap number. But if Naheem Hines is getting a guaranteed three and a half million, I can't ask Nick Chubb to take six million dollars. What are you giving him? More than I thought.


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[Assistant] Same thing with Maurice Hurst, by the way, which we'll get to in a second.


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[Assistant] I feel like the fact that all these running backs went off the board so quick and that the only


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[Assistant] I think legitimate starter left out there is Derrick Henry.


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[Assistant] I got a text from my guy Max. Max is one of the producers for my podcast. He does the video editing. And he's a huge New Orleans Saints guy.


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[Assistant] Because he lives, he lives in New Orleans. And this is what he just said to me about Jameis. He said, you touched on it, but Jameis absolutely has become a premier locker room guy. We'll miss him in New Orleans. Some fans and players


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[Assistant] I thought he should have started over Derek Carr last year. I thought he should have. So there you go. So that's a, that's an endorsement from a big Saints fan, somebody else who's a member of the media. There you go. Uh, let's get to Maurice Hirsch, the one guy.


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[Assistant] The fact that he's gonna make at most three and a half million dollars, even if he plays 13 games, he's worth it at that price. He's a good.


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[Assistant] I wonder if Shelby Harris ends up coming back too. I, I never thought it, like there was, I know some fans wanted Christian Wilkins and maybe the Browns talked to him, I don't know. But it never made sense to me that they would spend huge money on a defensive tackle after doing that last year with Tomlinson. Yeaah. I could spend 40 million for two defensive tackles.


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[Assistant] Well, Camille Haunter's still out there. He's the best pass rusher left. Are you surprised they didn't go after him? I know he's old too, but instead of Zedarius.


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[Assistant] Dirty game, cutthroat stuff. Alright, so guys, before we get to the guys that, well let's, let's, let's first look at the guys that have moved on. We've referenced Sione Takitaki quite a bit. He signed a two year deal to go to the New England Patriots. Anthony Walker signs, I believe, was it a one year deal with Walker?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he went to the Dolphins, and then Mike Ford, good special teams, fourth corner, goes to the Texans, I believe. So, uh, and he, I know we've already talked a little bit about talking


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[Assistant] You better get out on their field. That's really good. Jason, best guess, was it Taki Taki that didn't want to come back, or that the Browns didn't want him? It sounds like the Browns wanted to upgrade that spot. It's like, that's the feeling I'm... Different type of linebacker.


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[Assistant] Since the tampering period began. We'll add in the trade for Jerry Judy.


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[Assistant] Overall, how you feeling about the first, you know, 24, 48 hours here of what the Browns, how you feeling about, you know, what they've gained, what they've lost.


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[Assistant] Go Bucks, by the way. Let's face it, time has hit the nail on the head. Everything else is window dress.


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[Assistant] If the, and we've said this a zillion times, I've said it a zillion times. If the, I don't want to hear this nonsense.


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[Assistant] My man G's been starting to pedal. That well, you know, we only need the Sean to be decent or no, no, no. Don't give me that nonsense. The Browns didn't give up three draft picks plus and pay him all that money to be decent. They had acquired him. They had decent. Baker Mayfield was decent. They wanted great.


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[Assistant] Even though they beat them last year, it's not getting past a healthy Ravens in the playoff either. Let alone the Bills or who else, you know, all these other teams, the Texans, the Chargers.


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[Assistant] That's the debate, or five years ago. How long has Sean been in the league? He's been in the league, what, six years?


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[Assistant] That's crazy, but that's how good this division is.


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[Assistant] Alright, I know you, you know, Russell's not your guy, but.


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[Assistant] Exactly. So I think that makes them scary. He's a great fit there. I mean, you could, it's the only division in football where you can make an argument for all four teams being capable of double-digit wins.


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[Assistant] Uh, listen, the division's loaded, the conference is loaded. Decent Deshaun is not going to be good enough. If Deshaun's great, the Broncs can play with anybody in the league. I believe that. You guys believe that? Absolutely.


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[Assistant] That's right. That's right. But I do think in the end that Jerry, the biggest difference right now between their roster...


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[Assistant] Last year and now is Jerry Judy. For all his flaws, and he's been a disappointing player in his career, he's still significantly better than Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] Now maybe the money's going to be too high because everybody's getting overpaid right now. If I'm the Browns, I trade Elijah Moore and I sign Tyler Boyd. Do a one year deal.


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[Assistant] I'm going to give you an answer in a second. Let me tell everybody that the former Browns are running back to the Ernest Johnson, just re-signed in Jacksonville. I actually, I got two guys for you, Mike, and they're both


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[Assistant] And DJ Reader. Now I don't know that the Browns are going to do that. DJ Reader. I just said you can't spend a ton of money on defensive tackle. Now I'm saying DJ Reader.


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[Assistant] Now you're talking, and you take a guy from your division opponent. Dyler Boyd, whereas Jerry Judy's got great speed, he's a great route runner, what is his struggles? Inconsistency, right? Drops a lot of bull. Hyler Boyd,


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[Assistant] Is as good as any player in the league at wide receiver at catching the ball. He's not a dynamic receiver, but he's gonna be where you need him to be, and he's gonna catch the ball almost every time when you throw it to him. He would be a great second security blanket with Najoku, I mean,


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[Assistant] Man, the Browns would go, if they got Tyler Boyd, again, listen, he's getting old, he had his worst year last year, but he's still a guy that can get you as a third receiver, seven, eight hundred yards if they're throwing the ball a ton, I think. So, uh, that would be my guy, would be Tyler Boyd. I like DJ Reader, but I think it would end up costing too much.


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[Assistant] And, uh, one other guy, uh, so your guy is DJ Reader though? Yes. Okay. Uh, one other guy I think is important for the Browns to sign is Corey Bjorkes. He ain't signin' it? No. What they doing?


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[Assistant] Who have not been very productive yet. I mean, think about it, with Jerry Judy getting 13 million, he's better than those two guys.


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[Assistant] That's only one year. He did not, or at least he hasn't at this point. It's interesting. We talked a lot about Calvin Ridley and Marquise Brown. Those guys, usually by 24 hours, most of the big guys have signed. Those guys must not, like, because they should get more money than those two guys who signed for 13 million a year. Maybe, maybe they're shooting too high. I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know, they still have Agbo. And they still got Alex Wright. And Alex Wright. A tackle mate. I mean, in terms of making a splash. At this point. It would be a tackle.


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[Assistant] But, you know, and Clowney's still out there. I mean, I guess they could make a splash and sign Derrick Henry, but I just can't imagine that's gonna happen. No, I don't. I was mostly joking. Yeah. If they signed Ridley or Marquise Brown or even Tyler Boyd to go with what they've already done, then that would be...


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[Assistant] I don't think there's any huge wrestling fans here, but I know there's a ton of wrestling fans out there. And the Browns have just announced that, uh, this year's SummerSlam, WWE SummerSlam is gonna be at Brown Stadium on August the 3rd. That's a big deal for wrestling fans.


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[Assistant] Alright, Mike, uh, so. Winners and losers here, Bull. Winners and losers. I mean, it's hard to say winners or losers, but what were the moves, guys, that maybe stood out to you from the other teams? Let's look at the division, first of all. The Russell Wilson thing happened a couple of days ago. We talked about it a little before. The Steelers haven't really done anything else, have they?


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[Assistant] Uh, the Bengals have added Gino Stone at safety. They've added Mike Kasecki at tight end. They've added Zach Moss at running back. They traded Joe Mixon to Houston. They lost, uh, Chida Bayouzie, your guy. Titus. Chido? He signed with the Titans.


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[Assistant] She don't go? Yeah. Dang. And, uh, and then T Higgins wants to be traded, but the Bengals probably will not trade him.


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[Assistant] They got no incentive to trade them. Unless they get overwhelmed by the deal. By the way, did you see this news? That they, you know how they do the compensation draft picks, guys? Yea. So...


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[Assistant] They originally a week ago put out the list of compensation draft picks. Yeaah. And they redid them and the Bengals originally got two 6th round picks in compensation. They changed it and now the Bengals have the 97th pick in the draft. So the Bengals just added the 97th pick in the draft. Why? They screwed up. Apparently there was like a clerical error or something when they were


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[Assistant] And it got brought to their attention by, I dunno, it was by the Bengals or somebody. Probably by the Bengals.


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[Assistant] The AFC North is tough as hell. I thought, I mean some of those running back contracts really surprised me guys.


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[Assistant] I feel like Barclay's been very inconsistent since his rookie season. And he's been very injury prone.


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[Assistant] Pollard got, uh, 12 million a year. You left out, uh, Deandre Swift, who's bigger than Moss and Eckler.


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[Assistant] Pollard's getting 8 million a year, Swift's getting 8 million a year, uh, Eckler's getting 6 million a year coming off a terrible season.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're going to do it as consistently as they have in the past. I think, what did you think about these big defensive line contracts, like the Giants trading for Brian Burns. I mean some of those contracts were


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[Assistant] Yeah, he got like 80, he got 80% of his contract. Well, it's Kirk Cousins Guaranteed Money.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right, right. I think Kirk Cousins has been overly maligned for playoff losses where there's a lot of quarterbacks who haven't won the playoffs and they don't get crushed.


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[Assistant] As, as much, you know, uh, so, anyway. Uhm, anything else, Mike? Is there any other big, big moves?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, although Gino Stone didn't get paid a ton of money, I think his number was a little low, but, but, uh, I mean most of...


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[Assistant] Yeah, the cap is the biggest jumping cap in the history of the NFL. So, that's it. I don't think this is, I mean, what else could it be?


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[Assistant] And part of it is, it's the best crop of free-engine running backs we've seen in forever.


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[Assistant] Right. My point is, we're like, oh, the running backs got paid more than we expected, which is true. But in the end...


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[Assistant] The Saquon Barkley of wide receivers is getting 25 million a year. He got 13 or 14, whatever it was. So yeaah, I think all those running backs got probably 2 to 4 million more than we might have thought per year, but they're still compared to other skill positions or wide receivers.


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[Assistant] They're still, don't get paid for the equivalent talent level. What was Barclays deal again? 3 years 38? Yeaah, I think he, I think he could end up making more than that.


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[Assistant] I mean, when Christian Kirk signed that contract two years ago, I was like, this is the dumbest contract and he actually played well. But Ridley and Brown I think are both thought of more highly than Kirk was at the time.


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[Assistant] And again, if Darnell Mooney, who has done nothing for two years, I know there's potential there, and the Bears were, uh, a crap show,


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[Assistant] But if that guy's getting 13 million, I don't know, I mean, now listen.


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[Assistant] Ridley's older, he's 29. I don't know, how old is Mooney? Probably like 26, right?


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[Assistant] And by the way, can we stop? Some of the members of the media are, if this is out of pocket,


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[Assistant] Alright, well next time call me on it in the moment and we'll discuss it. But let me say, all these reporters that are ripping the Falcons for saying they didn't want to pay Lamar Jackson but now they're paying Kirk Cousins. That is so stupid and disingenuous. It's not an apples to apples argument. First of all, I know a lot got made that nobody


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[Assistant] Apparently offered Lamar a deal last year.


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[Assistant] Don't you think the reason nobody offered him a deal is, is because of the fact that everybody assumed Baltimore would just match it?


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[Assistant] And you, it wasn't, listen, I, it's easy to say now, yeah, I'd give up 200 million and two first round picks for Lamar Jackson. But he had been coming off two down seasons and we've seen other quarterbacks that were run first quarterbacks fall apart due to injury. So it wasn't crazy.


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[Assistant] That nobody went after him. Of course you'd rather have Lamar Jackson than Kirk Cousins. Now, it's easy to say that. He's younger and, you know, but at the time it wasn't a no-brainer.


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[Assistant] And it certainly wasn't likely that, like, if the Falcons had offered him a contract, the Ravens were gonna match that. There's no way they were gonna let him go. Yes.


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[Assistant] So it's disingenuous for reporters to insinuate things, like the Falcons are racist because of that. This is not right. Well that's the insinuation. That's the insinuation. Listen, race is a part of many conversations, and certainly there's racism within sports.


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[Assistant] What is they talking about? That's not how they make sense. Nobody's saying, it's one of those things where, you know, nobody's saying it flat out, but that's the insinuation. Oh, I wonder what changed.


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[Assistant] They were thinking, we got the first pick in the draft. You know, like, you're not gonna give up the first pick in the draft. In that situation, go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] I don't buy your premise at all. First of all, you can't separate trades from free agency. It's all the same. To say he's aggressive in trades and not in free agency doesn't make sense.


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[Assistant] Did he say that? I don't remember that. Yeah, that's why I said they were the final two teams.


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[Assistant] But you're making it seem as if the Browns have never signed a contract where we're like, well that's an overpay and they have meant a number of times.


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[Assistant] Like, Andrew Berry, like, he's, he's playing checkers and everybody's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers because he's sitting and waiting. And if the Browns had made an aggressive move, we'd say, oh, look at Andrew Berry. He got out there and being aggressive.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I think that's, that is a good question. I, I am to the point with Andrew Berry, where I feel like


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[Assistant] If you get to the point where you're a media member and you can't be critical, you can just say, well I trust him no matter what so I'm never going to be critical. That's a loser mentality. I trust him.


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[Assistant] And listen, ultimately, as, eh, you know, you'll be judged on what you do in the playoffs. Everybody is, right? Quarterback, coach, GM. And in four years, this team has won one playoff game with this regime. So, we can't act like we've arrived and Andrew buries some superstar GM. But!


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[Assistant] Listen, I think Andrew Berry, especially as you like to say often, Jason, in the margins, has been excellent. Overall his drafting is at best mediocre.


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[Assistant] But they traded, you know, they used that for something else. So in the third round, they drafted Cedric Tillman. We don't know. Contributor. Contributor. We don't know. It's not, I can't call it a win. No. No, not yet.


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[Assistant] But, if you draft a guy in the third round, you hope he plays well enough to force himself in there.


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[Assistant] By the end of the year, you hoping that he's rotating in. I have more hope for Tillman than I do Ika. I did too. Right? Is that fair? Uh, fourth round, DeJuan Jones. That's a home run. That's a home run pick. Uh, also fourth round, Isaiah McGuire. He got hurt, right?


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[Assistant] Fifth round pick, Dorian Thompson Robinson. Looks like a good developmental quarterback. Looks like a solid pick for fifth round.


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[Assistant] I don't know what they're waiting for. What's going on with Jimmy? That's a good question. I don't know what they're waiting for. It's gotta be that Jimmy hasn't made the offer, right? Not that they're refusing to take it, I don't think.


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[Assistant] Well, they could always do some renegotia- what's the word I'm looking for? Not renegotiation. Restructure. Restructure with some of these guys at this point. They've got plenty of money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're just joining us, Derek Henry just broke a couple minutes ago, Derek Henry signing with the Ravens. It's so funny, it kind of felt inevitable the whole time that he was going to end up with the Ravens.


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[Assistant] We've still got a draft to go. I know, but supposedly the running back glass is not very good this year in the draft.


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[Assistant] Man, Kareem Hunt could average 0.1 yards per carry and Jay would love him anyway. Because he got those touchdowns. He was a contributor.


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[Assistant] The cap's so big now though, is it that much money? Like they paid, who did they say, Gabe Davis, like 13 million for a wide receiver is kinda like last year paying a wide receiver 10 million.


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[Assistant] But I just think, why you, if Trevor Lawrence is that guy, why you need all that?


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[Assistant] I think the Falcons. I gotta see the Falcons. I mean didn't the Falcons only finish one game back


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[Assistant] But he's not a short thing. I mean they paid him like a bottom tier starter. Yeaah. Yeaah, maybe Vegas.


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[Assistant] I guess, you're right. It's very similar. I feel like Justin Fields, I'm not a big Justin Fields guy, but I feel like with the right team, there's a lot of upside. I agree, but Baker won a playoff game here.


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[Assistant] I'm just spitballing. It doesn't make sense. I'm just talking out loud here. I'm just, you know, trying to figure out, but I don't know what they're gonna do.


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[Assistant] He should be starting, there's not 32 quarterbacks better than him. No, he should be, yeaah. I don't know, it's just, it's wild.


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[Assistant] It's wild. I think Denver's the one, cause Denver can't get one of the top quarterbacks in the draft. They have nobody. Maybe Denver's the Carolina in this situation. Yea, like, if you're Denver, why wouldn't you offer a fourth round pick right now?


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[Assistant] There's really, what position wouldn't you draft with that second round pick? I mean, you're not going to draft a quarterback this year.


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[Assistant] Why couldn't they take a tackle? Why would they do that? They got 3-0.


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[Assistant] Both your guards are old, you might want to move. If you find the right guard in the draft and you can't, often in the second round, maybe you move on from one of your guards. You could take a center.


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[Assistant] The only thing that would surprise me for the Browns in the second round is a corner


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm probably crazy, he's probably been doing this forever, but for some reason it stood out to me that Kevin Durant basically wears, like, tights in every play.


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[Assistant] I know, but it's just, I don't know why it stood out to me yesterday. It's not weird that he wears, like, no. I think it's a circulation thing.


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[Assistant] I-I-I'm back out. I was watching the game last night, I'm like, it's fun, I was enjoying the game.


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[Assistant] Yes, so the last time we played True and False, Tyvis was here and he lost to G. Bush. Thank you. He lost 5-6. And, uh, this was an overtime segment, so. Yes. You can go back and double check. January 24th, overtime.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're lovin' him, Mikey McNuggets. And so many big names, it would take me hours to say all of their names.


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[Assistant] We have talked about the Browns at pick 54 now because of the talent up and down across the roster. Being able to pick best position available or best player available.


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[Assistant] Now that they have four backs on the roster, potentially five with Pierre Strong, but we assume he's gone. Do you think there's any chance they still look at running back with one of their first two picks? Or is that an equation?


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[Assistant] Green Bay, yeaah. Yeah, uh, Luke Musgrave. Musgrave, right. So it's not that highly regarded, but there's a couple guys in the second, third round. Uh, Cade Stover out of Ohio State's in that conversation time. For bucks. There's a guy from Kansas State, Sinat, or Sinet. Yeah. Not sure if that's his last name.


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[Assistant] Just to give a bow tie in this conversation, the difference between picking at 54 and where the Browns picked last year at 74 was 20 picks. So just a few players selected in last year's draft between 54 and 74 to give you an idea of the kind of caliber the Browns may be able to get.


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[Assistant] We're going to move on to our next topic. Earl, you got a hell of a 2-1-6 show coming up before we talk about the Browns pastors. Tell them what's coming up tonight.


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[Assistant] Alright, so yesterday, Bleacher Report put out its list of the top 10 pass rush units in the NFL entering the 2024 season after the first week or first 10 days really of free agency and this is who Bleacher Report


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[Assistant] Put in their top ten. We'll start at ten. We'll work our way down to one at ten. The Houston Texans. Nine. The Raiders. Eight Jets. Seven Colts. Six Eagles.


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[Assistant] Number one as the best pass rush unit in the entire NFL bowl.


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[Assistant] You agree with Bleacher Report's assessment that Browns have the best pass rush in the entire NFL.


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[Assistant] Well, Clowney hasn't resigned yet. Oh, okay. And Kyle Van, and I don't know the answer. I didn't write the article, but Kyle Van Noy had six or seven sacks for them. He was signed in like week three and he's an older player that I think, uh, probably pretty unlikely he replicates that. Right.


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[Assistant] Patrick Queen can hurt. Yeah, go ahead, Mike. From Bleacher Report, they actually had a second article, why three teams didn't make the list. Oh, okay. Baltimore, Dallas and the Chargers. You want to read the quick little blurb? Sure. On each of them? So for Baltimore, this is from the Bleacher Report article.


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[Assistant] Clowney and Kyle Van Noy ranked second and third respectively for Baltimore and neither is currently under contract with the club. That's 18 and a half sacks they haven't replaced and that doesn't include the three and a half that Patrick Queen contributed and now he's in Pittsburgh. The team also lost their defensive coordinator. So bringing back the defensive tackle was a good move, but overall the team's pass rush took a hit.


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[Assistant] Since signing with the team three years ago, Trey Hendrickson has been nothing short of spectacular. He's racked up 39 and a half sacks, including a career high 17 and a half last season and has made the Pro Bowl in all three. He consistently puts pressure on the quarterback and has helped from a great edge duo with Sam Hubbard.


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[Assistant] The Cincinnati native has gotten to the quarterback 20 times over the last three years and was second on the team with six sacks in only 15 games. That's a pretty good production coming from the club's second pass rusher. BJ Hill has also been a quality pass rusher. He posted 13 sacks during that timeframe.


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[Assistant] to pro football focus, th also added 14 quarterback in the opponent's backfiel the free agent signing at Houston last season and gi rushers to on the inside


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[Assistant] Alright, we'll move on here. And this topic, I know you're really excited to talk about, but before we do that, a quick reminder. Thank you to everyone out here who watches this show. You guys, the fans, Browns fans, Cavs fans, Guardians fans, whatever fan you are, honestly, if you're watching this, we appreciate you guys. Take a second, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. It does wonders for us in the back end and we can't say thank you enough.


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[Assistant] So earlier this week, the Browns officially announced the resigning of Moe Hurst. He was on the Cleveland Browns daily show and was asked about potentially playing in Brazil. And this was his answer to that question. Steve, you take tag board.


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[Assistant] We love Nick Harms, our guy. We talked about him yesterday. So, he said that, and then there was some immediate, oh my goodness, did he spill the beans? To which then, Mohers kind of backtracked, and then...


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[Assistant] So then that led to some more chatter online about how the NFL is conspiring to sabotage the Browns by sending them to Brazil in week one.


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[Assistant] So we can squash any conspiracy here. I put it in the chat. I put a poll up. Do you think the NFL is trying to sabotage the Browns? What do you think the chat's response is? 173 votes at the minute.


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[Assistant] The thought of traveling, having to come back and then putting them on a week two or week three game against Baltimore or Pittsburgh or front.


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[Assistant] Now we're gonna talk a little Cavs here, but after a quick word from Vanduul.


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[Assistant] We have posted that link in the chat. It is pinned to the top of the chat.


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[Assistant] You got 13 minutes to fill it out. 13 minutes? 13 minutes.


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[Assistant] So last night, the Miami Heat came into Cleveland. Terry Rozier, the Cleveland kid, hit a couple tough, tough shots down the stretch to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers. The offensive execution down the stretch left a lot to be desired, but something I want to focus on today.


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[Assistant] The question I wanted to ask today though, guys, and we can break down the game. It's, it's tough to evaluate a game with the Cavs when everyone's out. Once again, the lack of execution down the stretch definitely led a lot to be desired, but Jared Allen played a phenomenal game. Another 2020 performance is fifth in his Cleveland Cavalier career.


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[Assistant] And after last postseason. And even after last regular season.


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[Assistant] If I had asked you, did you ever see Jared Allen developing into the caliber of player he has become today? What would your answer have been?


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[Assistant] Which by the way, his playmaking ability off the pick and roll.


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[Assistant] I didn't know he had capable, he was capable of and he's not just good at it.


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[Assistant] He's very, very, very good at it and making those secondary reads allows the Cavs to run, uh, action on one side of the court, have some sort of backside action going and run it through Jared Allen, which not a knock on Mobley yet, but it's one of the differences when they play with one big Allen is proficient at that. Mobley isn't that quick of a decision maker yet.


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[Assistant] He made a game winning through the day. Not really, it's not his game. Yeah, not really. But he...


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[Assistant] I guess if you leave him wide open he can make it, but that's not what he's looking to do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we do. We do have to get to this next topic. Uh, just a quick reminder, 216 today with Earl the Pearl. Kets the Ultimate Brown Show every Monday, Friday. Ultimate Cav Show every Tuesday. The Ultimate Guardian Show starts Monday with you and Zach Meiselboel.


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[Assistant] 3pm on Monday, make sure you tune into that. And also, if you want to subscribe to the UCSS newsletter, you can text newsletter at the number on the bottom of your screen here in one sec and you will be signed up to get a newsletter from the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show once a week.


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[Assistant] Text that number 216-435-1590. Okay, bull. This happened yesterday and.


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[Assistant] It kind of blew up across the internet, but it started on Tuesday with comments from Tyrese Halliburton. He was asked about.


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[Assistant] His mental health struggles the last couple months and his answer involved


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[Assistant] And we'll play the answer for you in a sec. He says he feels more like a prop than a person because of how much sports gambling has infiltrated the daily society. So here's what Tyrese Halliburton had to say, then I'll tell you what JB Bickerstaff said in response to that yesterday, then I'll ask you guys a question. But here's Tyrese Halliburton from Tuesday.


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[Assistant] So that was Tyrese Halliburton on Tuesday, before the game against Miami last night.


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[Assistant] JB Bickerstaff, the Cavs head coach, was asked if he's had those similar conversations with any players in his locker room. He says they haven't had any specific conversations one-on-one. He's mentioned that over the last two years, angry sports bettors have gotten his phone number.


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[Assistant] He was receiving phone calls, threatening him and his family.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. So big picture and that was kind of off-topic but related. More to Halliburton and JB.


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[Assistant] Do you guys think, and granted, I want to make sure everyone knows, we understand fan duels are number one sponsors, so we are not oblivious to the obvious here. But as sports gambling crossed any type of line,


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[Assistant] In the actual game itself, or you just think this is the new world we're in, and the sports leagues players and coach are gonna have to adapt.


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[Assistant] Watching a guy in the Clippers uniform play defense for him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, question for you guys. To put a bow on this before we move on to our Guardians topic. You guys all kind of talked a big picture with the NBA implementing their new


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[Assistant] Betting view on League Pass where you can literally decide to add a topic bar essentially above the scoreboard that gives you live updated overruns for the games, money lines, and point spreads.


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[Assistant] Uh, but we're going to move on, but we're going to talk about Otani in overtime, but because it does kind of deal with gambling real quick.


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[Assistant] Okay, I just wanted you to tell the people what's gonna happen in overtime. Give them a little primer of what the situation is.


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[Assistant] Well, we'll, we'll move on then. Bull's not ready for a quick teaser. Ask, ask Bull for one thing. I'm sorry. He's not ready to do it. Uh, we appreciate y'all watching. If you feel like watching Bull's show on Monday, give a better effort than he just gave me right there. Three o'clock on Monday for the Ultimate Guardian Show. Him and Zach, it'll be the best Guardian Show in town, that's a guarantee. And speaking of the Guardians, Bull, Earl, Tyvis, we had our best Guardians clip.


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[Assistant] In terms of views, in quite a while yesterday when we debated the Guardian's decision to send Kyle Manzardo and Chase the Ladder down to the Monday Leagues to start the season. So I was trying to think, okay, can't argue about that again.


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[Assistant] So I was trying to think of another topic for the guardians because as you mentioned yesterday, there's just not a ton of excitement as they get ready to open the season. What is it? One week away from today is official opening day.


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[Assistant] So I figured we'd go back. Let's go back in time. In your opinion, but I'll start with you. We can make our way around.


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[Assistant] Who's the most underrated Indians, Guardians player of all time?


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[Assistant] Oh, we had the debate on the show when it happened. Jacoby Brissett's numbers were significantly better than Tyler Hunton's.


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[Assistant] He threw two touchdowns, so if he went 5-1 and threw two touchdowns, and that's another...


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[Assistant] In his Pro Bowl season, he played in six games, started four. Two and two record. Two touchdowns, three picks.


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[Assistant] No, James made the Pro Bowl his rookie season. Believe it or not.


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[Assistant] His rookie season, he threw for 4,000 yards, 22 touchdowns, 15 interceptions. He was the third alternate, made it as a Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] I can't, there's nothing, outfield is his listed position in every minor league season, so if he played for a random game maybe.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I just found something yesterday, we'll finish with super chats in a sec, but I found something that made me laugh on Twitter yesterday and it, it ends a chapter, officially ends a chapter in, uh, Cleveland Brown's Twitter history. So I'm going to show you three tweets. The first one.


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[Assistant] Uh, first one, they both come from Brawdy's bottom line. Yeah. Earl, the first one's directed at you.


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[Assistant] Brawdy says Mel Scott is the best player from Collinwood.


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[Assistant] Woah woah woah, I look up Mel Scott, and I'll get you whoever Mel Scott is. Yeah. Brody also wants to know, Tyvis and Bull, would you trade forward to move up in the draft?


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[Assistant] Alright, so Mel Scott was a Collinwood basketball player in the 90s.


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[Assistant] Because it's deeper than me, it's deeper than what the things that I might go through in my personal life, what I can control. But we have our obligation to entertain and to be a break to other people's reality. Yes. You know, despite what you might go through in your personal life, somebody else might always have it a little bit worse and you watching us joke around and laugh.


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[Assistant] Might be the difference in them making a poor choice about their own life. If we could continue to do that, that's why being a good stewardess over your craft is always important.


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[Assistant] I mean, if they're not soft, they damn sure didn't do themselves no favors in looking at it.


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[Assistant] And I understand that Donovan Mitchell and Josh Hart are friends, but in that moment, this is where I wished somebody on the Cleveland Cavaliers that was on that court would have stood up and did something.


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[Assistant] They wouldn't have gotten, wouldn't got a flagrant file or technical file to send a message like, you're not about to be doing this in our house. Yeah, y'all can be friends all day long, but I would have put Josh Hart on his ass and I would have told Spider in the locker room. I know that's so homie, but that's not my homie.


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[Assistant] And the fact that to me, why that's so important is because in my opinion, the New York Knicks live rent free inside the Cleveland Cavaliers head. See, it's one thing to run up on a player from the San Antonio Spurs. It's another thing to run up on Ben Simmons, but that ain't who you got beef with.


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[Assistant] Y'all shouldn't have that energy for Josh Hart when he went and popped Donovan Mitchell's chain. And if you think that's okay because they're friends, y'all can be friends after that. But right now you in the middle of a game, a game that you absolutely need to win, and he hits a dagger three in front of the Cavaliers bench.


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[Assistant] It turns around, pops by this chain, and nobody on the court does a damn thing about it.


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[Assistant] The perception is the Cavaliers look soft. It looks like that the New York Knicks have our number. They're gritty.


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[Assistant] They're tough. They have a lot of heart. The New York Knits is the epitome of what we wish the Cleveland Cavaliers were.


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[Assistant] It's funny though because as we're having this conversation, I go back through the season and there was a couple games throughout the season to where I really was sold on, okay, the mentality, the mindset of this team is totally different, right?


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[Assistant] Right, when you see them actually being aggressive or responding to what things other players do on the court and then you hear them talk about being a tougher team and how this is not the same all-cavs team.


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[Assistant] That's cool, but this, this is Deebo, right? This is Deebo. Like, are you gonna go out there like Craig and fight back? That's all I want you to do. Fight back. Like the Cavs has a fan basis right now, like man, just


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[Assistant] And Donovan wasn't even playing, but if I'm a player that was on that court,


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[Assistant] At that time, man, listen, that three point shot came right after Darius Garland turned the ball over in front of the Cavs bench. That sealed the game. He turned around and popped this chain.


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[Assistant] In that moment, if I'm a player that's on the court for the Cavs, Man, I'm going to get me a technical foul. And I'm a tail spider in the locker room. That's your homeboy. That ain't mine. Right?


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[Assistant] This is our house. You're not finna come in our house and think you finna punk us in front of our fans. And regardless of what it was, I'm just going off of what it looked like. That happened on national TV. So now everybody think you finna come in here and be able to pop our chain. Who's gonna take the technical though?


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[Assistant] But here's the thing, all three of us, one of our favorite movies is Remember the Titans. Remember what Big Julius told Gary Burtier? Attitude is a reflection of leadership, right? Look at the New York Knicks.


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[Assistant] Brunson went down within the first 47 seconds of the game.


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[Assistant] And they rallied. They had an eight man rotation after he went down. Five starters, they can only play three people off the bench, right? And this is what I thought about.


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[Assistant] The next man up mentality, the grit, the grind, just the whole mindset is a reflection of their coach. Thibs, right? That's a reflection of Thibs. I see JB Bickerstaff get thoroughly


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[Assistant] I'll coach yesterday and what's crazy is I gotta do a better job, bad job out of me because I have a tendency to be prisoner at the moment. I seen the Cavs do everything that they were doing and I was giving JB his flowers because he deserved them.


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[Assistant] Blinded by the fact that we just throwing up W's. But at the end of the day, once you go up against a real squad, a squad that you know is right there on your level, it's about what you do against the teams that you supposed to be able to compete with. Not, not tweeting at me because Darius Garland hit a bunch of threes against Detroit. The Detroit Pistons ain't our problem.


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[Assistant] The New York Knicks is. And to see him get thoroughly out coached like that,


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[Assistant] Like, that's a further indictment on why people feel like yeaah, regardless of the Cavs winning, this dude needs to go.


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[Assistant] Jay Balls McBride came into the game, never left the court, and got buckets.


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[Assistant] But we, we have our, we have our microscope OJB and I said yesterday, I said yesterday, I said, man, he can use a little bit of Kevin Stefanski in him.


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[Assistant] Right, I think it's something that you, my daddy used to tell me all the time and you either born this way or you not.


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[Assistant] Like I can't teach you to be an alpha man. That's something that's either inside of you that would sprout on its own as you get older or simply that you simply don't have and not everybody has it. And so when you talk about


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[Assistant] A mentality, a state of mind, an attitude or way of going about business. You can't develop toughness, right? You can't develop...


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[Assistant] That is something that's in you, and when you have these opportunities to really, like, show, like, the growth, the measurement of where you are now compared to last year, last night was the perfect opportunity. I tweeted out before the game started, I said, man, game day, go Cavs, I need the big Cavs to show up, not the little ones.


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[Assistant] I understood they had injuries. I understood that Donovan may or may not play, but my whole mindset was forget who may or may not be out there. This team has your number.


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[Assistant] Right, when you see that logo, when you see that nickname on that jersey, you need to be locked in, ready to go, and make sure on national TV, on your home court, that you won't come out here and get embarrassed. They got out coached, out embarrassed. And embarrassed.


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[Assistant] I tweeted it out yesterday, Mike, I'm sure you've seen it. I said, and another thing, Sam Mero bat night have another damn DNP for the rest of the season. That dude is a walking bucket. And for a team that's attempted to shoot 43 point shots a game, you need to also hit those shots. And Sam Mero continues to prove every single time he steps on the