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[Assistant] It's a moment I'll never forget. It was one of the most unlikely things I've ever seen in sports. They were down two. It was the eighth inning. It was Rajay Davis. He was choked up four inches on the bat. I was lucky enough to be in a field level suite with my son.


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[Assistant] Well past him crossing home plate. By the time we got done and we looked out, he was off the field. That's how long we were celebrating. That was crazy. It was a euphoric moment unlike one I'd ever experienced as a sporting fan.


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[Assistant] I am a huge baseball guy, that's why that's my number one. It was followed by one of my most disappointing moments, but I'll never forget that moment.


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[Assistant] Herbie. Oppo double. Well, it ended up being just a single because Eddie Murray scored the winner, but that I remember that my mom and my parents let me stay home.


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[Assistant] We welcome you back to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. It is 216 days, so obviously we're talking about the Cleveland sports teams and their chance to win a championship. Which team right now, the Cavs, the Browns, or the Guardians, has the best chance, Bull, to win


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[Assistant] I got the guardians with the second best chance for that reason. Incredible position and the strength is their pitching staff.


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[Assistant] And once you get into a series, when you've got, they've got really four guys bull with front of the rotation kind of stuff. Not a lot of teams can go that deep with their starting pitching. Get into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And there's six teams in our conference that have quarterbacks that are gonna be around and be heard from for a very long time. So for that reason, they're my last choice.


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[Assistant] Yes, there's six games behind the Celtics, but they've been playing their best basketball the last two months. The big question for me is what is Darius Garland on this team and how does he fit in?


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[Assistant] We know now with Mobley and Allen, they've got two guys that are going to give you double doubles every night. They have figured out how to play together well with both of those guys. Donovan Mitchell is what he is. He's a top 15 player in the league, maybe top 10 player in the league. I think, and I'm not saying you can carry them to a championship,


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[Assistant] And I'm not putting him in the same breath as Isaiah and Steph, but he's not far from those guys. He can take over a game. I just think right now the Cavs are the best positioned team in Cleveland to bring back that trophy.


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[Assistant] Taking a break, uh, our 2-1-6 theme show continues because on the other side, what will the City Connect uniforms look like for our Cleveland Guardians? We've put together some prototypes. We'll share them with you when we open up Cleveland's sports show on W-2-1. It comes right back.


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[Assistant] An image of the terminal tower. By the way, uh, Anthony, our director, is also our graphics guy. Great job on these graphics. And then the guardian bridge icon on the right. And that's uh, that's gonna be my uniform with CLE on the front.


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[Assistant] I mean, I gotta save you guys if I have to listen for two more seconds of fans whining about people being there.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I don't, I don't care what anybody, like, I don't care about the negative people. I like, the reason I keep Twitter and I look-


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, no, I think it's a terrible idea. I hate the Combine. Uh, regular Joes think they learn things at the Combine. The Combine is a total waste of time for most media and fans.


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[Assistant] It's only important for players to make connections, for media members to talk to coaches, for coaches to talk to coaches. You don't really learn anything as a fan because you're not, and that includes me and most media members because we don't know enough to know what you're really seeing and how much that really matters.


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[Assistant] I almost got into two fights at the game. Oh, please, please share. Oh lord. Was you out of pocket or was you being disrespectful? No, I was not out of pocket. So, so we, I got good seats for the game, right?


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[Assistant] No, it was normal. I was bummed actually on the flight home last night because I had to connect in Denver. I left around lunchtime, Arizona time, connected in Denver. Everything was delayed. I guess there was snow somewhere yesterday and it messed up everything because all the planes had to go through DIC so everything was delayed.


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[Assistant] But uhm, the plane ride home last night, they had this thing that I, I just stumbled into it.


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[Assistant] Terry Francona and Joe Madd sat down to watch Game 7 together. And I really wanted to watch that. I didn't get a chance to watch that.


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[Assistant] There's nothing else on. So I just watched that. But Arizona was good. I was out there four or five days around the Guardians. I know we got a ton of stuff to get to. Can I take like 30 seconds to do an uncap?


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[Assistant] Sort of keep an eye on that. I'm feeling good about Maelstrom not being a starter. He's not gonna be. I don't think. I think they want Floriel to grab onto that job. Yes, sure. But Tyler, cause after he was done, I looked at Zach Meisel and I'm like,


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[Assistant] Was that like? He goes, yeah, that was not like they mentioned that he would get it, but like Steven, it seemed a very.


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[Assistant] So I would imagine, unless everybody falls on their face, there'll probably be a new center fielder. Kwan is staying in left. Steven directly said, I can't remember if we talked about that on the show when I was on the other day or not. Everything's running together. He said, Steven's our left fielder. We have other candidates for, we got plenty of other guys who can play.


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[Assistant] Well, I jokingly, somewhat jokingly asked him, I said, what about leadoff? Like, judge let off for the Yankees and it's 60 home runs. Kyle Schwaber leads off for the Phillies. Yea, and, and though it was like, yea, no, we're not going that far. He's not going to lead off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, this one's easy. But as we go forward on these, are we supposed to be, you know me, are we supposed to be realistic with this or is this fantasy land where there is no capital?


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[Assistant] Yeah, of course, bring them on. Yes. How would that not be a good fit? I actually, I think they're okay at tackle right now, but he would certainly be an upgrade over what they have.


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[Assistant] Not this year, last year. Two years ago. Yeah, he wasn't...


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[Assistant] No, I, I, I do think that they, that's one of the spots where I think they need to look this year is the...


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[Assistant] The edge rusher opposite of miles, what are you going to do there? That's, it's been a problem for, aside from Genevieve Ann Clowney's first year in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] It's been an issue really since he got here. So, and if you can find someone a little bit on the younger side, sure, and invest some dollars in, I would be fine with that.


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[Assistant] The answer is T. Higgins. But at some point you have to rely on your quarterback.


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[Assistant] It also falls on the quarterback to make the guys around him better. That's correct. That's what the elite quarterbacks in this league do. So a lot of the time I would probably say the defensive guy, but I do think T. Higgins is really good and is in that special class to where I would take him.


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[Assistant] See, it's hard because, this is where it's really hard because the Proud's window is right now. So you can't really worry. In theory, you would take the 25, 26 year old defensive back.


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[Assistant] They've missed in free agents. If you want to call Juan Thornhill a miss, I don't think he's a total miss. No, he's like, no, John Johnson was a miss. John Johnson. Thornhill's like.


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[Assistant] fine. But I don't, I don't know if they've gotten what they've expected. No, their last two free. No, no, no. So I would rather have, I would rather


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[Assistant] We got a lot of good. It's wild. As good as like the Ohio High School talent is and like is tradition rich as it is. I guess there was a law about 10 years ago. Well, there's a lot of good to


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[Assistant] That was tough. I was a little surprised by the Georgia, Louisiana town. Oh, Louisiana.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields, Alvin Kamara, Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] Well, I was in the air, so I saw the condensed version this morning. I caught a little bit of the game here and there, but I didn't get to see the whole game, obviously, because I was flying home.


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[Assistant] Tap the breaks on any overreaction in one game. Although I will say, remember last week we were talking about going into the break.


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[Assistant] And I thought it was a big win to beat the Bulls. Because now if you don't come back and win that game, now you're on a three game losing streak, you look like crap.


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[Assistant] The part I think Garrett's talking about, and this is what I've said, if they have to move on from Donovan at some point, they still have


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[Assistant] Evan, Darius, and Jarrett. And together, that core three is what's going to carry them into the future. And that's part of the reason why nobody's trading Darius Garland in that organization right now, because you're already really concerned with


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[Assistant] What Donovan's future is. So you're not going to trade a guy that you do have control over.


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[Assistant] But last year they were great together. Like, they were fine. Donovan and Darius were fine together last year. And when you have two smaller guards in the backcourt, it does make the game harder.


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[Assistant] The benefit, what makes it better for the calves is you have two monsters in the front court. If you're going to be small in the back court, you have to make up for it on the front end and they can do that and that's what's different about this pairing as opposed to


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[Assistant] The Colin and Darius pairing which I never liked, or Dame and CJ in Portland, was defensively Portland couldn't


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[Assistant] It is, but if you're gonna do it, if you have any shot at doing it, you gotta have what the Cavs do have, which is Evan and Jared in the frontcourt.


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[Assistant] He's not worth the biggest contract in franchise history, but that's the situation that they were in at the time. Like, you either gotta pay him or you don't.


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[Assistant] I never thought Darius Garland was one of the five best point guards. Darius, when he signed that contract, was one of the highest rising, fastest rising up and coming guards in the NBA. He was the one on the U.S. select team. He was the one that other guards were talking about, like this guy is going to be. Now, has he continued to elevate at that same level?


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[Assistant] No, probably not. And part of that I think is the fact that he's got to share the ball handling duties with another guy in the backcourt. First it was Colin and then it was...


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[Assistant] Now it was Donovan, and Donovan is a far superior, better player than Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] I know there's still some people out there who think Colin is like some MVP and waiting, but Donovan is a far better player than Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] So there's a dance that you have to do. Usually when you're the point guard, you got the ball in your hands, you're running the offense, and that's how it is. But the Cavs, ever since, really since he's gotten here, that hasn't been the case. He's always had two creators. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.


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[Assistant] You're better with two theoretically, and the calves insist, I haven't had this conversation with them in quite a while.


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[Assistant] But at one time they kept saying, Darius is great playing off the ball. We've got the numbers to prove it. He's comfortable playing in an off-ball role. It'll work. It'll be fine. This has not been a great year for him, but that doesn't mean that you blow the whole thing up and you move him out.


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[Assistant] Very rarely, very rarely in the NBA do you win when your best player is your point guard. That's right.


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[Assistant] Very, very rare. Isaiah Thomas, Steph Curry. You can say Steph, but look at all, I mean, Steph had...


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[Assistant] It depends on the moment. It depends on the situation. I don't know if there's one blanket answer that covers everything. To Mike, like I'm kind of glad Donovan sat that game. I want to see him sit more games because I, that's one of the things Mike and I talked about on the podcast.


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[Assistant] Mike said, like, what do you want to see out of the Cavs the rest of the way? And I said, I want to see them play left handed. I want to see them do things they're not comfortable doing. Because in the post season, teams are going to put you in positions to make you do things you're not comfortable doing. So do it now. Play left handed. And that means Darius and Evan figuring things out together. Okay, it didn't go great last night. So what? It's Orlando in February.


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[Assistant] That's the time for this to not go right and to figure this stuff out and to keep


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[Assistant] Working on these things, it does you no good.


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[Assistant] But they do want to be the two seed. I mean there is, yeaah. But I'm just saying it's okay to have nights like last night. Sure. Because you learn from it and hopefully the next time it gets better. And if it doesn't, well then hopefully the next time it gets better because you are building for the middle of April. You're not building for the end of February.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, but I don't think it'll be Miles Straw in center.


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[Assistant] Go ahead and go deeper on that. I mean, they revamped basically a lot of their hitting instructors and they brought in a lot of new guys. Uh, I know they're working on swing speed with a lot of guys and quantum particulars looking for making harder comp, harder impact on the baseball.


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[Assistant] Uh, so Chris Lake is back as a hitting coach, but they have revamped a lot of their, a lot of their.


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[Assistant] His mouth is never closed. He's talking the whole time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's what they do. I mean, you go back to the, the club or Carrasco, Bauer, that was probably the heyday of the last 15 years in Clevinger.


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[Assistant] He's a little, he's a step behind those guys. Espino, I'm anxious to see, although I don't know that he's going to make the majors this year coming off that injury. Espino may actually be the best of all of these young guys. We haven't seen him yet. We'll see. He hasn't pitched in two years. Fingers crossed on Espino.


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[Assistant] By the way, he's also really good at what he's here to do, which is being a defensive catcher, framing, and he can really help Bo Naylor defensively. Like that, between Sandy Alomar and Austin Hedges, like Bo Naylor's got two terrific resources.


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[Assistant] Hey everybody, it's the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Gene Bush is back, feeling better. Good to have him back. Mikey McNuggets is on the panel today. We got Earl Anthony and Steve behind the glass. It's funny, as Gene Bush sat down, we were talking about his jacket. Is it a jacket? It's a jacket, right?


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[Assistant] And, uh, Mikey's like, he says to me, he's like, we gotta step our game up. I'm like, we can't step our game up that high.


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[Assistant] So you and I both have a serious problem, like your...


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[Assistant] Too thin to pull some things off and I'm too fat to pull things off, to pull certain things off.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think they don't. They don't, but I'm hoping, you know, I wasn't going to talk about it on the air because I've done this a million times before, but I'm on a new plan, I'm doing a new workout thing, my son and I did an hour workout, we actually did 20 minutes


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[Assistant] And that following May, uh, May of 2012, I moved here in August of 2011, May of 2012, we had been playing as a radio station, a bunch of us were like once a week, we were going to play basketball, pick up games. Mostly everybody that played sucked.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so it was like half court games, you know, really casual.


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[Assistant] And for a couple of weeks my achilles felt was bothering me. So I went to Dick's Sporting Goods.


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[Assistant] Anyway, so I was like, I was like, okay, I'll just tie the shoes really tight and I'll be fine. Well, what I didn't know is that I already had a slightly torn Achilles, slightly.


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[Assistant] That's May of 2012. That's crazy. And my hope is that someday, in the next year or two, I will be able to play again. Not at a high level, not running full court. Come with us. By the way, at the gym I go to, the Rocky River Rec Center, there were guys running, uh, a game and I was kinda checking them out, I was walking around the track. I was not impressed.


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[Assistant] So it's been 12 years for me and hopefully I can get back on there before 15. Anyway, lots to get to today on the show.


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[Assistant] Uh, obviously there's still plenty to talk about. Well, first of all, G hasn't been here for two days because he's not, he's been under the weather. Do you want to talk about that or you want to just move on?


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[Assistant] Not over the top, but I do drink it. I'll tell you, I, I, this is not, I wasn't having the same thing you were, but there was a stretch of time.


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[Assistant] I want to say seven, eight years ago, where I was having a problem with my throat. It wasn't bleeding, but it was really bothering me. I was having a hard time talking. I had to take off like a week or two from work.


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot of holidays where you do a prayer over the wine, but the kids would drink grape juice.


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[Assistant] So we'll get into all that, including what's happened since we were on yesterday. The Browns have brought back their punter. We'll talk about that. So a lot to get to. We're gonna hit on Darius Garland and how much we trust him at the end of the games later.


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[Assistant] And also I got a beef with a legendary, uh, uh, college football coach or I guess at this point, former college football coach that I'm curious what you guys think. First we'll say hello to Anthony right now. What's up Anthony?


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[Assistant] So let's get to the backup quarterback situation, guys. And G, let's start with you. Just for those who don't, I don't know if we had all the detail, I don't think we did. We had the up to money, not the guaranteed money in the contract.


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[Assistant] The guaranteed money is 4 million dollars for this year. He can make up to an additional 4.7 in incentives. Now we haven't seen, at least I haven't seen them, if you guys have please tell me.


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[Assistant] What those incentives are, sometimes we don't even find out, I don't know. Whether it's playing time or if he does play, how well he plays, I don't know. No idea. But he can make a max of 8.7 million.


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[Assistant] Knowing that, you know, and then toss in the fact that it's been reported that the Browns didn't even offer Joe Flacco a contract. What's your take on the whole situation, Gene? You were, you were, you kinda were Mr. Flacco. He was. Well, I was.


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[Assistant] That's easy. Insane. Okay, so there's so much to unpack in this story. You guys have hit on most of it.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think you both missed a little tidbits that should be added in. I agree with everything you said about the off the field stuff, but I'm gonna take it a step further. Not only is Jameis Nacho, like,


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[Assistant] Not everybody, but a large chunk of that population is also gonna not like Jameis. So it's not only that they picked a different quarterback.


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[Assistant] But part of it is, what Mike says, is that it's talent. Like, I think the Browns have decided that Jameis Winston, at the very least,


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[Assistant] Can be close to, if not as good, if not better than Joe Flacco was last year. I don't think they would have


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[Assistant] You know, my first impression with Jameis was like, oh, we want him in the locker room, and then I looked into it, and I actually, I mentioned yesterday, I googled, has Jameis grown up the land?


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[Assistant] That was my Google. And I read a bunch of articles about how everybody loves him as a teammate. He's really matured over the last few years. He's a totally different person.


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[Assistant] Which makes sense. When he got into the shenanigans he got into, he was 20, 21, 22. A lot of us got into shenanigans when we were 20, 21, 22. He works hard. When you get older, you grow up, you change.


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[Assistant] I don't want Jameis to be their starter this year. Nobody wants Jameis to be their starter this year.


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[Assistant] If they're gonna have great success this year, it's gonna be led by Deshaun Watson. It's that simple. But again,


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[Assistant] In a perfect world, it, well not in a perfect world, he'll play every game. But in a semi-perfect world, if he has to miss two or three games, I think James gives them just as good a chance to win. I think what's happened somewhat with the Flacco situation is something that happens with almost everything that gets talked about publicly these days.


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[Assistant] Everybody picks their camp. There's no gray area. It's a whole black or white thing. Uh, and in this case, it's also a race thing, which is part of every conversation.


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[Assistant] I, I, I think there's part of it that's like, I think the people that love Joe Flacco, and I, I, listen, Joe, he was a guest on my show, he was a guest on this show.


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[Assistant] And at 39 turning 40 towards the end of the season. Just because he did it last year out of left field certainly doesn't mean he would do it again.


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[Assistant] Last year, they consistently had only two quarterbacks on the active roster because P.J. Walker was coming on and off the practice squad. Originally, so was Joe Flacco, and then once they put him on the roster, they knocked P.J. off.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna assume that for 2024, they're gonna have three roster spots. Cause I don't, I can't imagine they're gonna let DTR.


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[Assistant] Cause to put an ETR on the practice squad, he's got to clear waivers, which he probably would. Yeaah, there's no way they can do that, definitely. So they're gonna have, that's, there's one position where they're gonna have one less player this year, because they're most likely gonna have three quarter, unless somebody gets hurt or whatever, have three quarterbacks on the action. And that's why Nick Harris is no longer here. He is, that's part of the next conversation. Go ahead, Anthony.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so, uh, in free agency, since we've been on yesterday and then at the end we'll get to the moves that happened the last couple of days because we want to get G's take on it.


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[Assistant] But, uh, this morning, I thought was one of the most important moves the Browns had to still make, and that was Cory Borquez. They re-signed him to a two-year deal. Have we seen any money on that?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but this to me was an important move because Bjorkes has been a good punter and I thought that last year was his best season and now you're in tight, you're three special teams guys exactly the same you're running it back. I like this.


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[Assistant] So you brought back Zedarius Hurston, Shelby Harris, which were your three good veterans.


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[Assistant] You kept Agbo, obviously, because you signed him to a multiple-year deal. You certainly got Miles Garrett. And then you got Dalvin Tomlinson. Well, your top six is really good. Now your seventh guy is Alex Wright, who, who showed some, some progress at the end of last year. And Ika's number eight. I don't know that the Browns have anything left to do, really, on the, I mean, you might draft, you draft somebody.


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[Assistant] And in the mixed guy, because they're not cutting Ica. He was the third round pick last year.


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[Assistant] And I was like, I couldn't remember a time, and it's not really all that much different from last year, except that wide receiver, which we'll get to in a little bit, because she hasn't had a chance to jump in on that yet.


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[Assistant] But if you look at their depth chart. They don't have any glaring holes. They have, they, they are deeper in a lot of positions than they've ever, than I ever can recall them being.


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[Assistant] You really don't have, you, you have seven legitimate players at the D line. I'm gonna leave Eka out. I don't know if he can play or not. Alex Wright's their seventh player. Like if he's my seventh D lineman, I'm good. Right? In the secondary, I got four guys that are at least


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[Assistant] I got, I got, Pam Mitchell is my fourth corner, I'm good there. Offensive line, I don't love all their depth pieces, but they got guys who have played in the league at depth, we're good, right? Now, yes, they need to add to depth at linebacker, they only have


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[Assistant] Three linebackers on the roster. Two you can fully count on. Two you can count on and three including Tony Fields that have even been drafted. Every other linebacker on this team is an undrafted free agent and most of them haven't done anything. So that's a position they do need to address at least from a depth perspective because if there's any injuries they could be in trouble.


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[Assistant] But outside of that, I mean, you got really good depth at almost every spot.


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[Assistant] I think he's a free agent too. So listen, I think they may be done.


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[Assistant] Yes, 100%. There's no way they're spending that money. There's a lot of teams in, I was texting James Rapin yesterday, I was like, are the Bengals going to get Reader back or what the hell is going on here? Do they need him? Their defensive tackle is not very good.


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[Assistant] And he's like, I don't know, the Lions are really interested, a couple of teams, the Browns are not spending, he's gonna go for a good amount of money, the Browns are not gonna spend that money on that.


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[Assistant] But yeah, especially seeing all those running backs going off the board in the first 10 hours was really shocking. Uh, Elliott, not Elliott, uh.


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[Assistant] Phillips, he's gone. Well, I don't know that he's gone, but he's a free agent. So, yeaah, I'll be surprised at this point. I can't think of a position.


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[Assistant] Where the Browns would sign another veteran for any more than basically the minimum at this point.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. This guy could, he's got a perfect role on this team that they don't have Phil. A third down back and a return guy. He does both those things well. That's fine. And kicks by the way. And by the way, what, at this point, what running back would they add anyway? You just asked a question.


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[Assistant] Here's the, like, who's the best running back left out there? Alexander Madison? Zeke Elliott? Uh, no, what, Aaron Jones? No, he signed with Minnesota. Oh, dang!


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[Assistant] I would have loved that. I said Aaron Jones, when he first got cut, Aaron Jones is on, is on, like all those running backs change teams. He's on Minnesota. Joe Mixon got traded to Houston. Henry signed with the Ravens yesterday. I think Alexander Maddison is probably the best running back left. He's not any better than Joe.


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[Assistant] So I, no, here's the, the only thing I could see, and this may be more a hope of mine than a realistic thing, and I brought it up yesterday, is that, now I said the Browns move on from Elijah Moore, trade him, and then sign a guy like Tyler Boyd.


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[Assistant] And if you have too many backs, it's a good problem to deal with. Yeah. I mean, that guy has never been able to stay healthy, but yeah, I mean, if you can sign him for, you know, a million dollars. One year, two mil. I don't even know if he's getting two. I take him.


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[Assistant] If I were going to make a surprise, I would say it would be maybe they move on for more.


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[Assistant] Keep more. I didn't even know, like, Moore complained when he was the third receiver with the Jets. Is he gonna do the same thing here? Uh, he better be cool. In a contract.


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[Assistant] They drafted a receiver. The good thing is the Browns are in a position where they can just take the best player available. Yes. Which is what they should do.


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[Assistant] That's a wide receiver, great, but if you think there's a guy at linebacker or defensive line, it's much better, you take him. And some teams are not in that position, so it's good that the Browns are. The only thing that would shock me in the second round is if the Browns took a defensive back or a quarterback. I think they could take any other position.


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[Assistant] He's not very good, but he's better than Hudson. Is that the bottom line? He didn't play enough that I like distinctly remember him. I remember thinking that we gotta get better than him. Uh, but...


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[Assistant] The fact that he was on the roster of a team that went to the Super Bowl,


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[Assistant] We got traded. Oh, we got traded. We're gonna get to that in a minute. Before we get to that and all the moves that happened in the last 48 hours, let's get your take here on Jerry Judy. Or is my wife referring to him as Jerry Juicy? Plus Jordan Hicks.


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[Assistant] There's no debating he's been disappointing. When you're drafted in the first round as a receiver, at the very least, you should have one thousand yard season after four years. He's never had a thousand yards. But what is the worst case scenario with Jerry Judy? Is he is what he's been.


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[Assistant] In three years, it was still not wide receiver too worthy.


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[Assistant] This guy, now, there's inconsistency, no doubt. There's problem with drops, it's been an issue with times. But he's made a lot of big plays.


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[Assistant] His highs have been high. He's had stretches the end of the 22 season. Really good. He played really well and everybody thought he was going to reach that next level and then last year went, but for once,


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[Assistant] Here's a guy going from a team that is looked at as a, usually the Browns are the dumpster fire team and you're going somewhere else. In this case, the Broncos have been kind of a dumpster fire and he's going to a team that is in a good place and not a dumpster fire. So as I talked about already, I like the move and I think the downside of Judy


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[Assistant] How funny would it be if you actually heard, saw Mary Kay talking and it was Gene Bush's voice?


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[Assistant] If he is immature, and I don't know if he is or not, I would think that spending time with Amari Cooper, who as you said is his idol, he's the reason he went to Alabama,


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[Assistant] Uh, at his age, because he's still very young. He's 25, right? 24. 24. If he has a big year this year, he's gonna get paid.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Because he always had the potential and he was always a decent player. If he puts together as the number two receiver, 1170 yards and six touchdowns, he's going to get paid.


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[Assistant] Run-stopping linebacker they've had in a long time. Very long. I mean. Cintiquel? Yeah. It might be Cintiquel. I mean, he's...


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[Assistant] He's that, he's that ilk of player. I mean, he's not, I don't think he's as good as De'Quel was, but he's in that, like, same vein of players. You go back and look at his numbers, he's 100 plus every year. Five years in a row. 100 plus. In fact, if he, and last year, I said this yesterday, but for those of you who missed it,


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[Assistant] Uh, last year he did miss four games, it was not a series, it was something with his arm, I can't remember what it was. Before last year he had not missed a game in four straight years, and he was on pace to have his second most tackles of his career at age 31 or 32, whatever it was.


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[Assistant] The only thing I'll say though is last week Earl had little titty.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I feel like the nickname theme is good and we all have nicknames. Anthony doesn't really have a nickname.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? But anyway, okay, let's keep it moving here. So, G referenced it briefly, we'll get to it now.


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[Assistant] What's up Cory? Cory got mad at me by my Nick Saban tweet. He says Cory's a coach. Cory, Cory, listen.


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[Assistant] You had the first time ever that every team was over 500 in the same division. You can make an argument that all four teams in this division


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[Assistant] Not just an argument, you can make a strong argument that all four teams in this division are legitimately good enough to win 10 plus games. There is no other division in football where you can make that argument, not even, not even a weak argument for it. So the division's loaded. Uh, I would have to say


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[Assistant] I think you can make a good argument that the Steelers are the most improved.


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[Assistant] They added Russell Wilson, and say what you want about Russell, he's a lot better than what they-


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[Assistant] They are gonna go old school Seattle, which is who Pittsburgh already is. They're gonna run the ball up on with their two backs.


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[Assistant] I disagree. But they got a corner who I think is good.


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[Assistant] They're probably thinking, we need a corner, we got our start, because they only had one good starting quarter, now they have two. And Dr. Jackson's a good player. And what are they thinking? They're thinking, this draft is loaded with wide receivers.


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[Assistant] They've been good to me. They always hit.


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[Assistant] He may not, he's not throwing, you know, like he's not making a million big plays down the field, but he'll be smart with the ball, and he can run.


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[Assistant] So he's, he's really a great fit for them and what they do. And you talked about the backfield and I've never been a Najee Harris guy, but I thought it was interesting. The middle of last year would have looked like Jalen Warren was about to take his job.


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[Assistant] His play went up, and the two of them as a pair were great down the stretch. And they made the playoffs, their defense was good, but it was also because those two guys ran their ass off at the end of the list.


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[Assistant] So when the Browns game plan against Tennessee last year was like, we are attacking Derrick Henry. That's it. That's it. If, if we get beat by, I don't remember who was quarterbacking for them in that game. I think it was Tannehill. It was still Tannehill? Yea. If Tannehill beats us. So be it. They don't have any receivers anyway.


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[Assistant] So whoop, we'll let it happen. Everything's on Derek Henry. Can't do that with the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Okay, so the Browns who were good, we think got a little better. The Ravens who were good, we think got a little better, although their defense went down a little. The Steelers who were good, but seemed like a fraud, got less fraudulent because they have at least a legitimate starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] And the Bengals got a little better too. They, uh, now, some people would argue that Joe Mixon's better than Zach Moss. I, as someone who watches them every week.


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[Assistant] Justin Jeffries had a pick. The Bengals would have to give up more than the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I would do it. I'd do it right now. But the Bengals would have to be committed to signing both long-term. And not give them a contract on the same day. And then you pay Jefferson and Chase 80 million each.


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[Assistant] If you did that, then you'd be spending about $130 million a year.


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[Assistant] I don't care. You have a top three quarterback and two of the top three receivers. I would do it. Don't get me wrong. I know the Bengals. Now I give the Bengals credit. I hear people saying they're cheap. They've always been cheap.


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[Assistant] The Bengals are not, and listen, I'm okay if they don't want to sign T. Higgins long term. I want them, but I'm okay because I believe, you know, the Browns have things they're good at. The Bengals have been very good at developing wide receivers. Nobody thought T. Higgins was going to be as good as he's been.


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[Assistant] I don't think they trade them in the conference. They might trade them in Minnesota, but I-


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[Assistant] But as of now where the Bengals are, so at least they're even at running back. I like Zach Moss better this year than Mixon. I think Mixon's gonna go off the cliff this year. We'll see. I like Zach Moss for you. I like Zach. I know you wanted him on the Browns. I think that was a good pick up and I like the kid Chase Brown at the Bengals drafted last year. I think they're a good combo.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. Post safety. Boundary corner. They need a post safety and he is it. And Gino's throwing out a great year last year. That was good. They also need to bring back DJ Reader.


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[Assistant] I think they got a slight upgrade going from Irv Smith who was a nothing. They signed Mike Kesecki. He's not great. He's been a disappointment. But he's a guy that with Borough could probably get four or five hundred yards. These games, these games this year. I mean, this division is absurd. All four teams are loaded.


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[Assistant] And then you look at the rest of the AFC. We already know with the Chiefs, of course, we know that Bills, I know the, I think the Bills have gotten worse this offseason. I did too. But as long as they have Josh Allen, they're not going to be bad. They're going to win 10-11. Right? The Chargers with better coaching will be good with Herbert. I think the Dolphins, the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] They get tanked LBAC. They're really good. I mean, Indianapolis? That's a competitive theme. I mean, Jacksonville? Who's crap in the AFC?


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[Assistant] The teams that have no shot to make the playoffs in the A's. Denver? Denver, New England, the Raiders.


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[Assistant] The Jags, the Titans, the Colts, and what am I forgetting? The Titans. The Titans have no shot. Texas. So the Titans.


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[Assistant] I think 12 of the 16 teams in the AFC can make the playoffs. I think the Raiders, the Broncos, the Patriots, and the Titans got no shot. And you guys might disagree on the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Because they're a long shot. I'll be with you on that. Because you gotta throw in the Jets. But they're not a bad team. No, they're not a bad team. Even if they're not.


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[Assistant] Right. I think you'd still have to put the Bengals and Ravens 1-2.


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[Assistant] Because the downside for the Browns and Steelers quarterback is higher than, than. I agree. Minus injury. Yea. There's at least a chance that Russell Wilson


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[Assistant] And Deshaun Watson won't be great, even without injury. There's a chance.


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[Assistant] The Bengals definitely are last at running back.


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[Assistant] But I would argue they're first at quarterback and first at wide receiver. Definitely first at wide receiver. There's no debate there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. Health out of the equation. So, I mean, it is just... It's close. I would say by this... I'm trying to think about...


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[Assistant] I think the Bengals are first by the slightest of margins.


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[Assistant] I feel like, I'm gonna put the Steelers last because I think Russ, you know, even with their highest upside, Watson, Watson's highest upside is right there with Lamar and Burrow. It's just he's less likely to hit it than Lamar and Burrow, but it's right there if he reaches it.


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[Assistant] Well, if we added those things, the Bengals would lose. The Bengals have the worst defense of the four.


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[Assistant] The only thing is because it was multiple tears. Multiple surgeries. I don't know. Listen, uh, to me, as I've said before, I compare him to Adrian Peterson. And Adrian Peterson was great the year after he came back from a serious knee injury. If anybody could do it, it's Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] If, if Deshaun Watson plays at that level, and you know, I know, you know, and I'm not as confident as I was when they first got him, but I still think it's in there. If he can get back to that level, then the Browns are a legitimate Super Bowl contender, there's no doubt.


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[Assistant] I would say the weakest position group is probably linebacker.


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[Assistant] You need one. And that's- And it's not bad. And J.O.K.'s coming off a Pro Bowl season. And you signed a quality veteran. Yea. And the only reason I'd say it's the worst position is because the only position they really have is no depth.


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[Assistant] They're good. It's a really damn good football team. Outside of linebacker on defense, you have almost no space for any other players. No, they're not going to make the scene. No, I mean, maybe a fifth corner. Somebody is a fifth corner.


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[Assistant] Right, so like, here's an opportunity there, maybe a ninth defensive lineman. They got five corners, but they got four safeties.


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[Assistant] Right, they go, right. Andrew Burrows, Andrew Burrows always carried 9 DBs. 9 DBs. They got 8 guys who are definitely, you have 8 DBs that are definitely on the team. You have 8 defensive linemen that are definitely on the team.


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[Assistant] What are you gonna keep at most? 18 between those two positions? Probably only 17.


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[Assistant] Before I think about it, I think Conklin's not going to start next year. No, he's not. If everybody else is healthy. You can't put the wand on the bench. In the last couple of years, that's arguably been the worst move by Andrew Berry is the Conklin extension.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but what do you say? You say they should trade one of the guards? Uh, no, you can't do that.


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[Assistant] I mean, the reality is that all three Browns tackles have injury issues. So, you know, you have all three. Listen, if all three are healthy and ready to go week one, that's a good problem.


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[Assistant] I think we'll put a lock now. A dinner jay. So that's your nine offensive linemen, right? That's crazy.


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[Assistant] The Browns are gonna draft some guys that they have no intention of playing this year. At all. Because they're like, okay, we need a tackle for next year. We need this for next year. Like, we're gonna draft a wide receiver that we're not gonna expect anything from this year. I mean, if the guy ends up making an impact, so be it.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, you gotta think ahead because right now there's just not, not spots. Like who? What position could they draft where a guy is likely to get playing time?


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[Assistant] I, I do know who said this. Uhm, Chase Daniel, remember the former quarterback? He said this and he's right.


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[Assistant] He says the Bears should not trade him now. Because what are you going to get for him? Nothing.


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[Assistant] You keep him, you draft Caleb Williams, you keep Justin Fields, at some point a quarterback's gonna get hurt. And then you'll have him in the trade.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I think they want a tank. I must be honest. Who? The Broncos? Yeaah. I mean they've gotten rid of a ton of guys. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And by the way, you know how you said before they got it for free because it's a 56 round pick? Even more so now because the Browns don't need all those extra for so many years as you know G. The Browns needed every draft pick because they had no talent. But now they're so deep everywhere. Those 56 round picks are even more useful.


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[Assistant] And that's why the Browns might trade up this year.


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[Assistant] Now you might say, well, I don't care about those late picks, let's use them and go up.


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[Assistant] Wide receiver, defensive tackle, defensive back.


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[Assistant] So they're, I mean, listen, they're deep in a lot of places. You don't, you know, your special teams guys are back.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean they could cut, obviously if they had a running back, they'll cut Pierre Strong. Right. But you're not, they're not cutting forward. No. No. I know Najee Harris is not getting a lot of money, but he fits a need for them. The he-mind. Oh, the he-mind's not Najee Harris. They wouldn't have gave


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[Assistant] And that's a good spot to be in. It's a great spot to be in. The Browns for so many years were in a position where they had to play their draft picks.


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[Assistant] Because they had no choice. And when you play when you don't deserve it, that's when bad things happen.


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[Assistant] And they're not, definitely not in that position. Whoever they draft in the second round, what are the odds that guy is a starting player this year? Six percent.


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[Assistant] Who's just a block guy. There is a, I can't imagine at this point, you know, obviously if the Browns have a million injuries again in training camp or whatever, who knows?


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[Assistant] But I can't see a scenario right now, barring injury.


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[Assistant] Where the guy the Browns draft highest, whatever that ends up being, spot, plays more than 50% of the snap.


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[Assistant] That's a problem. I think that's highly unlikely. Uh, not play till mid season and you'd have to, and the second, and that running back would have to be really good.


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[Assistant] I think there's almost no chance of a second round guy playing 50. And it's not because, and if that guy's good, maybe he forces his way into more, but it's a point where you can let guys develop.


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[Assistant] Franklin or some stud. Let's say as part of the moving up they trade Elijah Moore. Right. Then I can see right in there is the third receiver.


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[Assistant] I think it's probably something closer to...


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[Assistant] In between what the Browns ran and what Buffalo ran, right? I don't think the Browns are gonna be throwing the ball as much as Buffalo did. I don't buy that. I still think they're gonna run the ball.


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[Assistant] But they're going to throw up more, but I just believe they were going to throw up more either way if Deshaun Watson were healthy for a whole season. Yeaah, I kind of believe that too. By the way, one quick note from college football, I saw this guys. The running backs coach? Yeaah. Yeaah. We didn't mention that, did we?


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[Assistant] How bizarre is this? Ohio State running back coach Tony Alford is leaving to be the running back coach at Michigan. Betrayal.


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[Assistant] Nothing new on the free agency in the last hour. Most of the big guys, the biggest names still out there is Calvin Ridley, Marquise Brown.


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[Assistant] So it, it's crazy, but those guys are still out there, uhm. Reader's the big name defensive player. There's a couple of, you know, veteran offensive linemen that are good players.


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[Assistant] What about- Erick, boy, he's getting cut today. Brandon, is Brandon, that was a trade rumor, that wasn't free agent. Yea, yea, yea, he's not a free agent. No. And, uh, then we talk about the running backs. Alexander Madison, J.K. Dobbins is out there.


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[Assistant] By the way, before we move on to basketball, this is the elephant in the room we have to address. Has anybody else noticed that our guy Steve Becker, our executive producer,


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[Assistant] He is feeling himself in our text groups lately. Have you noticed this? He's like over the top cocky with his Eagles. He's over the top cocky with Michigan. He's kind of taking little pot shots at the Browns here.


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[Assistant] He's like, he, earlier he texts, uh, I want the Eagles, I'm glad Mariota's gone, I want them to sign any backup except for Joe Flacco. I'm like, what, his Eagles are too good for Joe Flacco now? And these Eagles is due for eight of them.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, uhm, we're gonna spend a few minutes here on, uh, ticket prices. You got, let's get the info here.


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[Assistant] So the Browns the other day announcing they've raised ticket prices, and I gotta tell ya,


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[Assistant] Listen, every team is the right, they can do whatever they want. The Browns are not unique. The Browns, I believe have.


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[Assistant] Cheaper tickets than most teams in the NFL. Which makes sense because the average salary in Cleveland is...


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[Assistant] You know, and the 65, first of all, $65 a game. And they go on to show the rest, because I don't really, I don't want to talk about people buying tickets. Nearly 85% of club level seats, about 40% in the lower bowl.


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[Assistant] Are increasing no more than $20 per game. First of all, $20 per game, for most people, is a lot of money. Yeaah. Like, if, cause most people don't buy one ticket, you have two, or you have four, and I know what other people would say, well if you can't afford it, don't go to the games. Well that's true, ultimately you can't. Errol and I were having this conversation earlier today.


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[Assistant] As, as the only, well besides Mike, the only person here that's not from Northeast Ohio and has been here a long time, the, the sports teams in Cleveland, and especially the Brown, are part of who you are.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Less than 2%. I am not exaggerating. I've lived here almost 13 years. I will probably live the rest of my life here.


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[Assistant] And I have met about five people in 13 years that didn't like sports.


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[Assistant] Every, I've never met a girl, I've met one girl in my entire life in New York that likes sports that I knew. That's crazy. Here, every woman I meet likes sports. Everyone. They be at the community lot, they be tough. I was in the WKYC elevator because I was going up to your office earlier. I get in here from the basement.


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[Assistant] First floor the door opens, a woman who works at WKY, I don't, I don't, I don't think she's on air, I don't know who she is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you could say, and circling it back, I didn't mean to go on so much of a ramble, but circling it back, you could say, well, if you can't afford it, you can't go. For some people in this town, it's everything. It's everything to be able to go see their Browns in person.


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[Assistant] And so every dollar you raise, I don't care what they raise on the best seats in the house. I don't care what they raise on the suites. But the people up in the upper deck,


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[Assistant] Don't, five dollar, even five dollars a ticket is a lot of money. Twenty dollars a ticket is a ton of money. Let those people be. The sweet holders, charge them a million dollars, I don't care.


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[Assistant] And again, it's a business. I understand. He has the right to do whatever he wants, but I hope they consider the rank and file people in the upper deck that this is, that every dollar matters too.


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[Assistant] Does that go to the city or that doesn't go to the Browns, does it? I don't know.


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[Assistant] So the Ravens have lost two starting offensive linemen because...


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[Assistant] What's-his-name's-a-free-agent, the veteran who was originally with the Bengals. Been a really good guard forever.


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[Assistant] I can't think of his name. I don't know. It doesn't matter. That's interesting. They must have a guy they think can replace him. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, we're gonna actually switch gears here in a second.


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[Assistant] Uh, and switch gears and talk some, some football. Uh, some basketball. Excuse me. Yeah, there you go. I'm surprised the Ravens traded their second starting offensive lineman. Oh, there's another trade.


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[Assistant] This is the most boobs I've seen in a long time. Bitch.


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[Assistant] Been crazy. It's been crazy. Trying to see if there's anything else that's happened here in the last few seconds. That seems to be it. Okay. NBA. Yes. Right.


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[Assistant] You know how I feel, just get me to the playoffs, I don't care anymore. But, one of the important things we need to know, and we may not be able to find out until the playoffs is, can Darius Garland get things done when it matters?


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[Assistant] In crunch time, Daris Garland had a great game the other day against, uh, Phoenix. But when it mattered down the stretch,


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[Assistant] He failed. Mike, you have some numbers on him late in games, right? And they're not pretty.


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[Assistant] I haven't asked, no one's asked how much he weighs, but. Well, we talked about this earlier when G talked about picking up basketball. It's so hard, so hard to put on.


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[Assistant] The only thing I thought you say that may be a little unfair.


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[Assistant] Part of the reason I was ready to move on from Baker Mayfield, not, you know, I'm bringing him back up, but is that when I looked at Baker, I didn't see anything he was elite at. And I think to be an elite quarterback or, or just an elite NBA player, this has got, most elite NBA players have multiple things they are elite at.


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[Assistant] But ultimately after seeing Baker for a while, I was like, he's good at a bunch of things, but he's not elite at anything. And you're right, Darius is good at a bunch of stuff.


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[Assistant] And I think comparatively, he's a better basketball player than Baker. Way better. I'm not trying to make that exactly embarrassing. But ultimately, to be a regular all-star.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's leave it there. I wanted to get into the comments from Nick Saban that pissed me off. We'll do that tomorrow when Tyvis and Jason are with me on the panel. Uh, but now-


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[Assistant] Alright, here's the announcement. Obviously, we've been running our bunch of shows. The Ultimate Cleveland Brown Show with Gee Bush, the Ultimate Cleveland Cavs Show with Mike and Jason, and the Ultimate 216 Show with Earl. Am I forgetting something?


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[Assistant] The time is a little bit in flux, unlike the other sports that only play night games or Sundays. Obviously baseball and plus for the first time we're using somebody that's not on our show regularly.


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[Assistant] And Zach has great insight because he's traveling with the team. So I'm looking forward to doing that. So Zach and I will get going in two weeks. Best baseball knowledge in the city.


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[Assistant] Maybe some television comments as well. That's all coming up on Overtime. Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Peace!


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[Assistant] It's like the most popular game. This is, listen, right now I feel sorry for, if you ain't, if you've been married after this thing came out, I feel so sorry for you, if you're a wife, because you're not gonna see your husband much. What makes it better than Madden, by the way? Uh, everything. The pageantry, the music, the, it's colorful.


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[Assistant] Since it was college football, it was, it was, uh, Bill Walsh's college football. 1996, I started playing. 97. I know all the covers. Uhm, I was on a video game in 2004, and the highest grade that I received on there was a 71.


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[Assistant] Well, let me give you this fun fact about, uh, cause I've been really into video games, let me give you this fun fact about Mike Tyson's punch out. Do you know now they have tournaments and speed runs for who can, who beat the game the fastest?


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[Assistant] And a person almost won the speed run championship for playing Mike Tyson's punch out blindfolded. Why did he do that?


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[Assistant] All of their punch moves. Yes. He memorized every single punch sequence and was blindfolded.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm not gonna say anything right now. I've been slowly but surely, uhm, stockpiling.


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[Assistant] Now I wanna give you an example. Yeah, like they don't like, cause I'm gonna do something outlandish in August. Okay, August. August out, it's gonna be real crazy.


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[Assistant] But, but I've been coming up. I got some exclusives, though. Shout out to my wife. She put up, uh, she put, she put up a nice little display. Uhm, so shout out to her. I gotta...


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[Assistant] If they want me to care, I mean, this, this sounds crazy, but if you want me to care, man, I just saw it. I mean, look.


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[Assistant] There's presidential candidates that got 9 million dollars or 5 million dollars lost another 89 million dollars in sexual assault cases. That person is going to be, if that was the allegation alone, they still get to run for the highest office in the world.


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[Assistant] There are no press conferences, there's no, no one's jumping up and down and saying, wow, he's lost 89 million, we can't put him in, no, they didn't do that. That's not true.


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[Assistant] First of all, I don't think they have, I don't think they have, uh, uh, once you, once you start down a path, right, and you, you have in your mind that you want a certain set of money, right, I, I look at this kind of like,


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[Assistant] You know, my brother and my mom was in a car accident, right? And it was the other person's fault.


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[Assistant] And so they kept, they had a number that the lawyer wanted.


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[Assistant] And then it got to a point where it was just like they was tired of it. It was just, it was attrition. You know, you kept, it's fatigue. You keep having to write stuff. You keep having to send doctors bills or what a doctor, they want to know whether or not this injury specifically had


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[Assistant] So after a while they just say, you know what, listen, whatever, just finish it, do whatever, and basically what ended up happening is the money they thought they were gonna get never really got anything because


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[Assistant] Like it, it was all, it went all to the lawyers, all the lawyer fees. So, you know, there's a certain amount of time where, where people like, okay, I'm not going to back down now because I've already come this far.


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[Assistant] But a lot of times when you can go into court and you start to see the tea leaves and he does give a deposition, you'll see like, okay, well, you know, one person has dropped their case. It was three.


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[Assistant] During this time period. That were left. Yeah. One person dropped their case. Now, uhm, you know, you know, if they're entitled to do it, the thing I got a problem with is, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, the NFL coming back and be like, oh, you lost that, that, that trial right there. We're going to have to give you some more suspensions. Well, we don't know that they would even do that. I know, but they just have the right, they have the right to, right. So I would look at it like this. If, if, if they've already come back in the one judge that they wanted, would she say six game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the first judge. They threw the hammer at him, gave him 11. That season was all over. Yeah, the league stepped in and said, no, that's not. Oh, so they gave him that at the end of the day. I don't believe like we even have double jeopardy in the United States. You can't keep trying somebody for the same amount of crimes that they've already been convicted for.


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[Assistant] And it already, it already has to a point sullied his reputation, whatever reputation you have. Because if you talk to people and say, oh, he was never convicted of anything, the first thing they say is the talking points. Well, you don't have to be convicted of anything in this country to say that you didn't do it. And well, he got suspended 11 games. He didn't get suspended from nothing.


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[Assistant] And so for you to come back and say, well, let me look at the outcome of that. I, I just.


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[Assistant] Even, even the thought of that opening up to me, I would have already something ready to go like, listen, go ahead, uhm, I'm willing to sue the NFL, right? Let's stop playing these games.


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[Assistant] I take a look at this, man. So, you know, eh, I just now started getting into the media, right? There's a level of notoriety because of the way the show works and you've worked.


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[Assistant] All your life to get here, you slept on couches, you didn't have money to put in your car when you went to work, and you did it the right way. You never had no problems, and all of a sudden,


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[Assistant] Somebody comes knocking at your door saying, hey, I think I remember you saying something that was really offensive. Or I think I remember 15 years ago, you said something that happens all the time, Gene. And I'm like, and so now, because somebody says one thing,


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[Assistant] I now have the burden of proof to prove that I didn't do nothing. And you've been knowing me for how many years and I ain't never been arrested, ain't never had no problems, ain't got no priors, ain't got no convictions, nothing.


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[Assistant] But we, when you turn on Twitter, already, always knew that guy was a pedophile. Always, always knew that guy was a troublemaker. It looks like he just puts his hands on women. I just don't like in our country today.


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[Assistant] Where it went too far. When you say this comment, believe all women, that is BS. I'll stand on that.


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[Assistant] Just because there was times where some people, yeaah, they weren't believed in certain cases. But in other cases, we are all humans, we are all infallible, we all go through things and we all, people have ulterior motives.


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[Assistant] I don't know one person, one woman who is 100% without any sin, and I don't know any guys either, but I think it's crazy the fact that you can have one allegation or somebody can say something about you.


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[Assistant] And then retract the statement, case goes away, but your life's ruined.


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[Assistant] I go back to the Duke lacrosse case all the time. I go back to it because it's the most pertinent thing we have.


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[Assistant] They used the narrative. The narrative was there was a young black girl


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[Assistant] Everybody in the media just turned around and said, oh, let's look for another story.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if you put that list back up here, uhm, I think he needs to be, to me, on talent.


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[Assistant] If I, if I had to pick, I would have him at uhm, at either three or four.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I like him better than Tannehill, Huntley. Uhm, Gardner Mishu, I think would be a tie for me. I like Jameis Winston, but Jameis Winston has a narrative that he gets people fired and he does what he wants, like the whole, you know, running, running on the goal line.


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[Assistant] So that means the Browns should theoretically understand how much a backup takes place.


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[Assistant] Put them, put them people up there. See, cause Operation Stockpile has a lot to do with these people. The Cleveland Browns, one of these 10 should be the backup quarterback this year. Pick one.


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[Assistant] At the, at the track and the point where we are as an organization, if this was...


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[Assistant] This is the reason you have to stockpile. You gotta have a stockpile. So you gotta have a veteran quarterback like a Jameis Winston that can come in and can still give you the throws you need.


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[Assistant] You need another veteran running back that I don't gotta coach up and say hit the hole for three or four yards cause chub is hurt and I need another receiver besides Amari Cooper who's getting old.


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[Assistant] They don't have time to be sitting around talking about philosophy and whether or not we can allocate. They have to. It's just what it is.


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[Assistant] I'll take, I'll take Flacco, Brissette, I'll also take Gardner mid-shoe, I'm not really into Ryan Shanahan.


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[Assistant] And was one game away from going to the playoffs. Last, last game of the year lost to the Texans. They was in a playoff hunt. Joe Flacco was in a playoff hunt. Jameis Winston, uh, is a former number one overall pick. He can throw the football. And Jacoby Brissette, I wouldn't let Jacoby walk after the first year.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, Will, you know, nowadays they talk about all the time uhm, you know, building velocity and now you see pictures maybe in the minor leagues who are going up two, three miles an hour on their pitches. Uhm, is there a philosophy or is there a thing uhm, where guys can develop power or do you think you're just born with it uhm, and you either have power or you don't?


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[Assistant] Will, this training, uhm, this spring training, uhm, what are you looking specifically to add to your game and to, uhm, you know, get your game better going into the season?


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm in training for the WKYC softball game this year. Oh, you're taking it seriously this year? Yes.


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[Assistant] You know the problem is, Bull, you, you, you purist. You like, you purist, you like guys to throw hard, you like the six foot five could really bear down on hitters and look how he sawed that guy off inside. I mean, yeah, that's good. He, he, hey listen, trust me, I wanted to see him here last year.


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[Assistant] Play, uh, pitch very well. But, if you want to look at performance, Tanner Bybee outpitched him by, by a lot.


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[Assistant] His velocity was up last year. I didn't think he threw the ball that hard, but listen to me. Uhm, he's like...


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[Assistant] It's because the pitching, they stayed healthy all year and the young dudes pitched. It's a shame because if they had one or two bats, that young pitching staff with the bats in this division, they could make noise, but we all know it's not coming.


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[Assistant] I think he's the key to the whole rotation. If you get a solid McKenzie and he's playing and he's not back on the DL like he's off again on again, that's tough.


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[Assistant] For me, I think uhm, the guy that will actually end up winning the contest will be uh, Jason Tatum. Uhm, I think he'll win.


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[Assistant] MVP, it was MVP. Donovan Mitchell, if you put those, those three-point shooters up there a little bit, Halliburton got an ugly jump shot.


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[Assistant] Halliburton's jumper is unorthodox and it's all about getting in a rhythm and effortlessly shooting it. Dame can shoot it from half court, Trey Young is another guy, Laurie Markkinen is a guy who's taller, uhm, seven foot guy, it gets kinda awkward where you gotta bend down and reach for the


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[Assistant] ball and get it up quickly. I think Donovan Mitchell can shoot him effortlessly, does not have to jump really high to get it off.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and looking from just three-pointers, just watching this as I go on Fandu and, uh, uh, put money on these little, uh, these games a lot.


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[Assistant] Dame Lillard is not, has not been hitting.


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[Assistant] Three point shots at that level. Donovan Mitchell, you could always mark him up for two threes a game.


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[Assistant] Between him and Steph Curry, they're getting 2-3-3s a game. Marketing, uh, you know, it's, it's hard press. He'll hit one. But I think Donovan Mitchell got a really good opportunity to win that, that, uh, three point shootout. And I think he, he knows he's shooting it real, real well right now. Yeah. Cause that's why he put himself in. He looked at Devs, I hold up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I could win this one. So I'm gonna go with uh, Donovan Mitchell. I think he wins that. Wow. Three point shootout. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I wonder what the payout is on that. Nine and a half to whatever you bet.


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[Assistant] Well listen, I'd have to say yes at this point. I was one of those guys that was looking around saying, okay, well JB, how many, taking time bomb, you know, you talk about the individuals that people say, look,


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[Assistant] Hey, we're not getting what we wanted out of it. You look at Donovan Mitchell. He looks like he's upset a little bit, but now you take a look at JB. Changes the way the offense rocks and rolls. They go one in, four out. They shoot a lot of threes. The pace is up.


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[Assistant] I just think he's done a tremendous job in changing the identity of this team. And they did a lot of three big, you know, centers, seven footers and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Now they're going to the shooting lineups. Uh, Coral has improved. You look at Donovan Mitchell playing like an MVP. He's playing like he's a guy that is a second team, first team all NBA top guy. And the way that Evan Mobley has come back off injury and Jared Allen has played all year.


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[Assistant] I hate to say it, but, uh, JB is doing a masterful job, and I think it continues after the All-Star break.


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[Assistant] And that's winning the playoff. The coaching, okay, see, let's take a look at this. You lose, just a couple years ago, but you lose Durant. You lose Westbrook. Oh, decimated. You lose Harden.


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[Assistant] You lose Chris Paul. You lose Paul George. You, you, you lose.


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[Assistant] All of these guys that, that were staples of your, your organization, and they kept, they always looked like they were in a losing end of the state. They get the picks and they draft picks, but you get Shae, you know, just Alexander, uhm, you, you, you're able to, to get, you know, guys like Chad Holmer, and now all of a sudden,


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[Assistant] You're in first place. And, and it's, it's like trust the process. Yes, we lost a lot of guys, but they've done a good job drafting and they got a lot of assets and I really think they, they're up.


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[Assistant] I mean, I really couldn't say any of the three. I just think it's different.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the reality was, donorship and the people in charge said hey.


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[Assistant] We like what you guys did this year. We don't think it's replicatable. We don't, we thought, we think you caught lightning in a bottle. And the reality is we need an offense that is tailored to Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] And I think that was their number one goal and their number one goal to do that. They went out and tried to find a guy, uh, that was able to, to translate that to wins and losses and making sure that Jashon plays better. And I think in year three.


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[Assistant] I think the patience has wore a little thin with, you know, wait until tomorrow, wait until next week, wait until we get it together.


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[Assistant] And now it's been three years since you've gotten to Sean Watson and I think ownership


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[Assistant] Look a lot more like Josh Allen, look a lot more like Patrick Mahomes rather than a rookie or a guy that's still ramping up. And I think they, they hope that Dorsey can get him to that point. And if he, and if they do get him to that point, it's a, it's a big, it's a big, they, they win the war, they win the war. You clap it up for them.


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[Assistant] However, the pressure is on, you know, Jay, if they don't get it done.


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[Assistant] You guys against it? No, I wouldn't. I go back to, you know, if it's 25 year old G. Bush, I'm really not thinking about the game.


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[Assistant] Brazil? You what? You might be making a road trip. Brazil? I'm looking at my cohorts like listen man, what time we got practice? Steve Becker sending us all to Brazil? That's a no brainer.


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[Assistant] It's a tough one, boo. I've been told it just for a while. It's kind of depressing to think about. It is. It is. You know, I've always said, man, you know, we talk about Operation Stockpile. What does that mean, G-Bush? You gotta not only get some guys to go with what you got, you better overdo it.


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[Assistant] When you're dealing with the level of Patrick Mahomes right now, he is on pace to become the Michael Jordan of this sport.


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[Assistant] And when you look at Michael Jordan, what he did, you look at the top 50 all time, greatest of all time, and you look how many people didn't win no rings. Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, Stockton, Malone, Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins never won during that era. Look at all the great


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[Assistant] Huge big time players that were there and they didn't get nothing done except


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[Assistant] For only one reason, it's Jordan. I think Patrick Mahomes is a guy that he proved this year he could win a different type way.


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[Assistant] He went on the road against Buffalo, went on the road against the Baltimore Ravens, and still got it done. They ran the Baltimore this year, and we thought it was a down year for them. And look up, look up, lo and behold, he in the Super Bowl again.


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[Assistant] He was a great one and gave us a lot of great memories. I ain't going to take too much of your time. I got him a 75 wins. I'm going to take the under at this. Guess what? Listen, they got a great young pitching staff. I like what they got over in the pitching staff, but it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough. Slim pickings at the, uh, outfield position as far as power goes.


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[Assistant] But as of today, I say they're 81 and 81. As an organization, I always think that they did a really good job of getting people, I think attendance was up last year, attendance has been up. It was.


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[Assistant] Yes. Now how do you, how do you rebrand yourself? Because Tito is good only for a couple, he's good for some wins, but he's good for people being deceased too. I think so. So how do you go about rebranding yourself if you don't, didn't bring anybody in and you got a new manager?


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[Assistant] Alright. Rarified air, ground game, not air raid leads the Chiefs to another Lombardi trophy. I think Pacheco has a touchdown on the ground. Uhm, I also think that Kelsey gets in the end zone, but I think it's, it's the new improved Kansas City Chiefs. They do it a different way, but the same thing prevails. Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. It's tough to beat, bull.


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[Assistant] They have purple gate, right? I'm ready to go. Gee, where we're starting today though is the loss of Bill Callahan for the Browns. Earlier this week, you said their defensive line coach Iyer Jaques Cesar, if I believe I pronounced that right.


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[Assistant] You didn't really make a big deal out of the hiring because you alluded to your time playing division one college football saying defensive line coaches just set up dummies and it doesn't really matter.


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[Assistant] Why does this position loss or position coach loss hurt more than others and what does this do as opposed to other positions that you said the position coach just frankly doesn't make that much of a difference?


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[Assistant] Ultimate Spinoff Show. The Ultimate Gap Show debuts tonight at 5 o'clock. Jason and I recorded it this morning. We had some scheduling things later tonight, so we recorded it this morning.


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[Assistant] It's a pipeline. Yeah, it's a pipeline. Eric Spolstra was the video coordinator. Now a former teammate of mine is in that position at Miami.


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[Assistant] No one's better to have this conversation with than Jason Lloyd because he was in the locker room when Kyrie was here, but Donovan Mitchell was named the Eastern Conference Player of the Month.


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[Assistant] For the month of January, just the second cab to ever do that. LeBron, Donovan Mitchell, and Gia, you mentioned it yesterday.


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[Assistant] This version we're seeing right now, the January Donovan Mitchell, better than Pete Kyrie Irving when he was here in 2016. And Corey answered immediately. Is that fair to look at just one month though, Mike? Well, I'm saying this, I'm saying this Donovan Mitchell versus the peak. I'm just saying the last month's been the best month of his career, frankly.


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[Assistant] I mean, we're still in good assessment mode. We feel pretty good about our group of pass catchers. I don't know many teams across the NFL that have two Pro Bowl caliber pass catchers and a good complimentary crew. We're always looking to add playmakers, but I think it would be aggressive to call that the top priority. Jay, put that through the BS meter for me, please.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Eagles did. Devonta Smith had just over a thousand, a thousand sixty-six. And AJ Brown had just shy of fifteen hundred.


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[Assistant] Let's see who else. Did Jalen Waddle have a thousand? Jalen Waddle had, yes, a thousand fourteen yards, Tyree Kill, eighteen hundred. Okay. I believe that is the only two teams. No, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had two. Chris Godwin, one thousand twenty-four, Mike Evans, uh, twelve hundred fifty-five. Okay.


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[Assistant] If you're going teams in total that had more, The Lions, Laporta, and Aman Rastain Brown.


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[Assistant] Debo Samuel, George Kittle, and Brandon Iuke. That was the best trio in football. Debo had just shy of 900.


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[Assistant] Rashid Rice had more, yep, Rashid Rice and Travis Kelsey both were ahead of, uh, in joking. What did Rashid Rice have?


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[Assistant] What do you think about AVP getting a shot now to call plays? And we now know the trade off. It's Ken Dorsey in AVP out.


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[Assistant] That's right. Mike. Real quick before we move on. Yes or no answer. Will ABP do a good job in doing the call and plays?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's talk some baseball for a sec, guys. Bull has seen this video, the other three of you haven't, and that was intentional. There's the new rivalry bro. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Brody's bottom line says the Cavs and Heat were the best teams in the East when LeBron was there for eight years. And Joshua Heisler says, can Jay or Bull host the Ultimate Guardian show? They'd be the best candidates. Loveless, Amtok Baseball. Uh, potentially.


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[Assistant] He probably went to breakfast. I'm pretty sure he was outside. I don't see that dude just sitting in the hotel seven, eight hours before show. He was in a museum? That's like cabin fever. I know he went to eat. I'm pretty sure he went outside to eat. He got some rub.


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[Assistant] Although if you can go to like the Art Museum or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, that's not bad. Like I think the Art Museum is dope. Yeaah, that's cool. That's a lot to see. Cleveland is underrated, man.


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[Assistant] I don't know, that's, that's, that's like broke boy behavior. That's crazy. Because like broke is a mindset, not necessarily the amount of money in your pocket.


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[Assistant] And like, it's kinda disturbing that every time you see somebody that come from the inner city or the hood, they try to come back and they try to do something.


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[Assistant] People that's out here actually that got real motion, that's really out here moving, actually out here doing something with themselves, they don't have the time or the energy to even conduct themselves like that. And it's unfortunate and stuff like that would start to deter people from like, you know, going back to their communities and trying to do something positive because


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[Assistant] You know, in a black community, you always read about rappers and entertainers ended up ending up murdered in the neighborhoods they come from where all they was trying to do was just to give back.


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[Assistant] Great leadership by Donovan Mitchell, right? That's what you're supposed to do. Another example of every athlete hears and see everything, not just Deshaun Watson. I thought Donovan Mitchell did a great job for standing up for his boy. That's his teammate. Another feather in his cap to prove like he's all in with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But with that being said,


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[Assistant] I love you Spider, but the criticism on DG is warranted. To me it's very well warranted, and just because people are critical of him,


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[Assistant] I don't think it mean that people want to see him fail. His success is directly tied to the Cavalier success. For me, I'm critical of Darius Garland because I know he's talented.


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[Assistant] But it's like, I just want you to be more consistent. I just want you to assert yourself more often than not in big moments. You know, I want you to put forth the other intangibles that's...


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[Assistant] Right? Like, when Donovan Mitchell missed those two games, if I'm Darius Garland, that was my time to step up. It's gut check time, right? Like, let me show you what I'm about. Let me show you who I am. Let me assert myself, right?


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[Assistant] And sometimes I feel like people, especially here, because we love what we have, they get caught up on two words. Max player.


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[Assistant] And I get what Donovan Mitchell is saying, like people are like forgetting the things that he did before Donovan Mitchell got here. People forgetting like when he was an all-star, people acting like the dude can't hoop and can't ball.


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[Assistant] And I'm not one of those dudes. I'm always quick to say he's talented as ever.


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[Assistant] That's not my issue with him. My issue with Darius Garland is man, you don't assert yourself and you're not consistent. And if you're a max player and if people don't want you to come off the bench because you're a max player, then you need to show up and show out every single night like a max player.


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[Assistant] I get it. And if everybody was saying, well, he just getting back from injury, he missed 19 games due to injury. I think he's played like 13, 14 games.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? So that number is starting to level out. Just go out there and be more consistent in the search field. And I don't think that's asking for too much.


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[Assistant] I just don't think nothing, I don't think there's nothing wrong with asking one of the best players on your team that you know is capable of being better, to be better on a more consistent basis. I don't think there's nothing wrong with that, like if that was one of us,


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[Assistant] You would challenge one of us to be better on a more consistent basis. Donovan Mitchell did the right thing. You're supposed to do that. That's what good leaders do. They come out on the forefront and they speak truth to light about what he really feels.


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[Assistant] He's clearly been seeing this for the last three weeks to a month. It was on his heart. It was on his chest. He got it off. Whatever conversations him and Darius Garland have behind closed doors, that's behind closed doors.


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[Assistant] In my opinion, anybody that's in this city that's covering the Cavs, that's covering Cleveland Sports Media, and they have a critical take on Darius Garland.


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[Assistant] I don't think they want to see Darius Garland fail. I think everybody, everybody understands that his success is directly tied to the cast overall success.


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[Assistant] I wonder those dudes, like if I give some constructive criticism.