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[Assistant] But there's also so many plays where you go back to last year or this year where you just go, really? He's just gonna get toasted like that? He's just gonna let that guy do that to him? He's just not gonna really care and make that tackle and let the guy run down the sidelines or a touchdown?


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[Assistant] Like I'm not even sure if he cares about the game type of stuff. That to me is where I got to know. And that to me, I couldn't put them there. The film did not justify top five pick or top five in my rankings. Definitely not. You know, okay. The film three years ago did great. Things have changed. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I think between that, between some of the games you watched from two years ago, and then of course he got hurt, and then of course this year it was what, three, four games, and then got hurt again, and it wasn't like, oh wow, this is unbelievable stellar play here.


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[Assistant] Uh, that to me is where I just, I couldn't put my name to it. And, and I fully recognize that we could be talking about a guy three years in and out and go, man, yeah, I mean, I know the potential was real, but,


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[Assistant] You know, I, I don't know. There was a lot of things not to like too.


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[Assistant] So that's where I don't know where to fall with Derrick Stingley. And I, I have great respect for him, his family. I know his dad played, you know, NFL football or, or, uh, at least football. His grandfather, of course, is the great receiver from the Patriots who got paralyzed. I know I have a lot of like respect here.


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[Assistant] I don't know really what to expect from the kid. And I feel like a lot of the rankings are totally predicated on what they saw three years ago on film or where he was ranked coming out of the high school, out of high school.


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[Assistant] And that's all cool. But the last time I heard this type of story, you know the story it was? It was, his name's Robert Kimdiche, right? Even though the tape was horrible and I saw people double teaming him down the field and he was 24 yards down the field being blocked. Everyone was like, did you see his body?


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[Assistant] Did you see that one play he made seven weeks ago? Did you see it?


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[Assistant] That with the body is- he's a good player. But why? I have 74 plays in a row here where he did nothing.


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[Assistant] And he gives up and he gets pancaked and all that. And that's, not to say it's to that extent, but that's kinda how I feel with Stingley a little bit. Where I wanna go, no, we're all just, we're hoping for something here. But can you realistically say he's the number one corner? That to me, I couldn't do that.


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[Assistant] Let alone letting people who are not as talented beat him on certain routes. And rant partial though.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he has the greatest potential here. He has the greatest potential.


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[Assistant] But it's just too few and far between. You're not, you're not banking on it coming back. I can't go on just total potential if I don't have some stuff to consistently back it up.


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[Assistant] Right? I can't, I understand what people saw with Robert Kim DiCci. I get it. I saw some of it. But I went, okay, there's one, and now I have 74 other plays to go. That's not good. I don't know why I've come up with the number 74 to say that.


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[Assistant] That, to me, is, you know, again, let me, you want me to read you some of this stuff?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he looks like a superstar. He looks like one of the top cornerbacks of all time. That's how I started off my evaluation.


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[Assistant] Great pair of legs, silky smooth athlete, incredible body control, and has strength. You know, has as good a hips as you're gonna find. I mean, flipping hips, turning and running, all that. I wrote-


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[Assistant] Exactly. You never see him really turn it on. He never really runs down players. You never see him, like, somebody catch a ball and he gets pissed off and goes, I'm gonna go get him. You never see him, like, putting his foot in the ground and give a hundred percent effort, I'm gonna accelerate and break the ball up or make the tackle. It's never. It's always like,


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[Assistant] I could have done it better, but I still didn't look cool doing it.


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[Assistant] And again, I don't mind, I'm not trying to attack the kid personally, I'm just telling you what comes off on film. And yeaah, I do. I question how straight ahead fast he is, right?


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[Assistant] And I know he knows how to play a little bit. His technique is pretty good. But I wrote it just like he's bored sometimes. There's no suddenness, no urgency in the game at all. No twitch. Never really plants his foot in the ground and takes off or drives in a ball. Or hawks someone. You know?


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[Assistant] I just, those are the things that bother me. I just can't take this kid in the first round just because of some of the stuff I'm seeing there. Not gonna take a kid in the freshman, from what I saw three years ago as a freshman. So, you know, messes up some coverages at times.


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[Assistant] You know, there's, there's definitely plays on tape where you can go, yeah, there's a mix up. He didn't know if he was supposed to get this guy, that guy, what his rule was. You know, so, and then I already am questioning, wait, how locked in is he? How important is it? And then you see those things, you go, well, shit, I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know? And it never really gets that explosive or twitchy.


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[Assistant] It's really hard to find a bunch of snaps in a row to go, Oh man, this game right here, he's, he's, he's all over it. He's putting it together. You know, and the same with the top end speed. I never really know if I was going, I don't know if I saw a clip where he's ever running full speed.


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[Assistant] But that's just what, that's just what scares me. And you know, again, this is one where I hope I'm wrong because the guy, he looks like he could be Darrell Rivas in a lot of ways.


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[Assistant] Shop 25. That'll be, that'll tell you right there. Shop. Alright, so you think these odds are off? Two injuries in a row with, two injuries in a row with average tape. We'll see the odds. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Now like listen, the guy Roger McCreary down at the bottom there from Auburn.


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[Assistant] You know, I can understand some, I wrote late first, early second with him. He wasn't my favorite as far as some of the others, but really good. I mean, really good.


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[Assistant] So he could go, Elam from Florida, you know, I thought he was a little stiff and like, I didn't love him, but I could see teams liking them and, and going that way. So yeah, I think we're going to get four. I would. You know, there was a lot that I got, uh, that I liked about the McCreary kid. He would have probably been the next guy, like,


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[Assistant] He was, he was. The only thing I thought missed from his game was top end cornerback speed. That was the only thing. Everything else I thought was absolutely phenomenal and he was the one that


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[Assistant] You know, I was really like kind of in a spot of going, wait, do I want to take him or the kid from Houston?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I was so in love with the kid from Houston, and then of course his kick returns, I just went, you know what, I'm gonna go with the kid from Houston, even though I like Roger McCrary from Auburn a whole lot. Alright, so our friends over at Point Spet give you the odds, Chris does not necessarily agree. But, but see, the odds are predicated on public, right? Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, again, I know, so.


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[Assistant] You know, that's the big thing right now. You can't turn anything on right now to tell you Stingley's not...


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[Assistant] I know, just a top notch guy in the draft. I will be very interested to see his pro day. I believe he's working out Wednesday this week. It's either Tuesday or Wednesday this week. It could be today. It might be. Is it today? I think it might be later today. So that's one where I definitely want to tune in to see that and, and I want to see if he runs 40 and does some of these other times too.


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[Assistant] It's just like, it's looked at so differently. First off, you know, defense is like we've talked about, they play nickel defense so much. So you have that guy who's like, wait, he's kind of a good covering safety, but because we took the linebacker out, we're going to make him kind of play nickel.


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[Assistant] You know, just because we can, we can count on that guy to...


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[Assistant] Do the physical aspects of taking on a block or stopping the run game or wide receiver screen. So there's that guy.


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[Assistant] You know, there's the, okay, the free safety nickel hybrid. Then there's the traditional safeties. You're just like, hey, it's a free safety, a strong safety. Then you got guys that are like, whoa, they're truly in the box. Like Cam Chancellor. It's like a de facto, really a linebacker who's in the mix there. Jamal Adams, same type of thing there too.


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[Assistant] You know, so there's that aspect. Then you also have the aspect of like teams drafting safeties to almost to the corner back, uh,


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[Assistant] This day and age. And so many times, some of these free safeties or strong safeties, like the kid, Nazaruddin...


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[Assistant] From, uhm, Florida State last year. I kept going, damn, he's too slow, he can't play safety, he can't do that. Oh, guess what the Jets did? They got him there and they said, hey, we like small linebackers. Play linebacker.


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[Assistant] So there's that aspect too to where you gotta look at it to go, there's some teams out here in the NFL that don't like that big linebacker and they'll look to convert some of these bigger safeties and go, now we'll be, now you'll be a really fast linebacker. So there's a lot of different ways to look at this group right here. It's becoming very hybrid.


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[Assistant] Alright, this is gonna be like kind of my off the radar guy as far as like guys that, that...


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[Assistant] You know, maybe nobody's heard of or whatever else. Louisiana, right? And to the point of like what we were just talking about, this is a guy too that there's not, he's not versatile. He's not.


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[Assistant] He's a free safety and a free safety pretty much all the way. You want him as a coverage safety and almost as nothing else. Now, he will tackle, right? He's not afraid to tackle. He's phenomenal on special teams. It's like one of the first things you read about him when you do a little like, you know,


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[Assistant] Recog, Savage, everyone talking about special teams, special teams, special teams. And then you turn on the film and you go, the dude comes downhill in a hurry in the run game and screen games and everything too.


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[Assistant] Now he's not the greatest open field tackler from this standpoint. Like, right. Has incredible feet. Off the charts acceleration.


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[Assistant] Grand 436 at the combine, right? He can fly, Ahmed.


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[Assistant] And when he reads it and goes, I mean, it's rocking up his ass and he goes. Now where he's not the best at, he can come down a little out of control. And, you know, his ability to, as a safety in my opinion, and I'm doing this and hopefully people know on like YouTube, I always kind of call it the cam chancer a little bit. Cam chancer used to, you know,


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[Assistant] When you talk about ball skills, playing the ball in the air, you know, ability to like run with top tier receivers, burst, it's wowing. It's wowing.


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[Assistant] Really is. To me, he's made for the past, he's an NFL free safety, and uhm, he's got an elite skill in his fact of, like, his ability to cover, run the ball down in the air, there's some elite traits with this kid as far as speed, acceleration, and the


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[Assistant] The feet are real. Now you talk about change of direction and the feet, there's a little difference to me there. Like change of direction, yes, you know, like we're talking about breaking down.


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[Assistant] Trying to get a one on one tackler. His feet though, like, let's say he's in the backpedal, and now a receiver crosses his face and runs the post route. He's got incredible feet to, you know, chop, chop, chop, turn him and go. Or, or, you know,


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[Assistant] I was flipped one way and now I gotta like chop my feet and turn around and burst the other way. He's great that way. It's just not the breakdown wide base change of direction stuff that he's the greatest at.


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[Assistant] I could see that happening. I could see that being the case for this. Yes. I could see this being a guy that's late second.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe a third rounder. Right. And I, I'm not expecting Percy Butler to go.


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[Assistant] Top 5 in the draft or, you know, in the first round. I'm not, I wrote that down and I wrote end of second, third round with a chance to be really big time as an NFL football player. You know, but yeah, I think I'm probably going to be one that's a little higher on them, but in a league where we talk about, you know,


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[Assistant] The pass game, and it's so prevalent, and the quarterbacks, and all that. And it's not, the safety's not necessarily about the Ronnie Lott guy as much anymore. You know, the guy that can...


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[Assistant] Cover and run down the field with a tight end or, or just play the back end and break on the ball and play center field and do all that. There's a need for that. There's a real need for that in the NFL. And that to me is where he's going to thrive.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Brian Cook. Brian Cook was, now this is a traditional safety.


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[Assistant] And like, yeah, you're exactly right. The more and more you start to look at like games and you go, well, okay, I understand why Cincinnati only lost one game leading into the, there was undefeated going into the Alabama game.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeah, quarterback good, damn good receiver. Holy shit, the whole secondary is going to the NFL. I mean, yeah, that's, that's where you start there. But traditional safety, you know, he's bigger than, you know, the last guy we talked about this way. This is a guy to where he's a little bit more of like in the box, you know, strong safety type.


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[Assistant] But certainly can play the back end and be a free safety as well. You know, you could see coverage, real, really good hips. He's very smooth. He's got great body control that way. You know, when he gets down to the line of scrimmage, he can set the edge and then, you know,


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[Assistant] He, unlike Percy Butler, who we just talked about, was phenomenal at doing the, let me break down and do the Kam Chancellor shuffle there, right? That to me is where he was great. His ability to break down and be twitchy and change directions and make tackles that way, I thought were really, really good. Alright, so that was what I loved about the game. And then, you know, he likes to hit.


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[Assistant] Right? He's, he's a traditional strong safety that way, but he's strong safety plus because of the kid's ability to cover too. So that's where I liked him. Uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Take on blockers, shed them, gets off, you know, the blockers, makes a lot of tackles that way. And then I, I thought, you know, really on film.


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[Assistant] He, he's, he's really fast. Like, I questioned if he wasn't faster than Sauce Gardener on film. And I wrote that down. And I just wrote, he's definitely faster than the other corner, which was, uh, uh, was it Cody Bryant or Kobe Bryant? Kobe Bryant, right? And then I just, I kind of wrote down, is he faster than Sauce?


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[Assistant] The ability to come downhill and break down, run sideline to sideline is special from this kid. And, you know, the guy I ended up writing ended up going, I couldn't figure out, I go, I can't figure out who he reminds me of. I ended up writing with his body type and the way he plays. To me, he reminded me of Harrison Smith a little bit. And that's high praise.


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[Assistant] I think this is a guy that can go anywhere from 20 to 40, Ahmad. I really do. He's your traditional free safety, strong safety type that's gonna make his living more at the second level than the back end, but man, there's nothing the guy can't do. He's really pretty good at both spots. Well, one of the knocks that I read with him


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[Assistant] Well, I, you know, I, I didn't see that. You know, again, I think what they're talking about is like, punch and get off, right? And I believe that's what they're talking about. You know, again,


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[Assistant] It depends on how you're coached with that stuff too. You got to be a little careful. Some teams could coach it of, we want you to lock out and hold on. We don't want you to punch and get off anything. We want to kind of stay here until the very last second and then you disengage and got to do it.


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[Assistant] Because sometimes when you punch and get off, you end up leaving other holes or gaps, right? So the thing I saw more times than not was the ability to lock out people that were bigger than him. And I go, he's not being like, he's not in a position where he's being controlled here. He's actually.


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[Assistant] You know, okay, he's over the slot, right? And they throw a screen.


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[Assistant] Not that much though. Well, this goes into our different thing a little here.


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[Assistant] He's a great guy. He's had a lot of coaches. He is a great guy. He has a lot of coaches. He's had a lot of coaches. That tells you.


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[Assistant] Man, I love Daxton Hill. Like, love him. Like, first off, now this guy's different, Ahmed. This is not your traditional, like, safety type of guy here. This is, you know, if you wanted to classify him as a nickel corner, I'd go, okay, yeaah, we could do that and put him in the nickel corner class, right? We could do that. But, you know,


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[Assistant] You, you see traditional safety stuff, you do, but I think where he really thrives or at least popped to me is when he was playing nickel. And again, you see a lot of these safeties in college. They put them at the nickel spot now because they just go, right. It's like we talk about it's the games become such a speed space game, wide receiver screens, read option, all that stuff to where.


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[Assistant] You want a guy like this out on the edge, but first off, like coverage skills, hips.


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[Assistant] Like feet in and out of brakes and transition and all that. It's really up there with like the top corners and the draft.


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[Assistant] So that's the first thing you go and you go, man, the guy's extremely smooth that leg, let alone he plays with a physicality and a style of like some of the safeties where you go, damn, look at him, get off this block and make that tackle. Let him shoot in there and like a missile right at the guys, you know, quads and take him out in the running game.


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[Assistant] So he had everything from that standpoint. You know, he's got a thinner frame, but man, he doesn't play like a thinner frame at all. And really, I thought like the 438 speed was very real and true to form what I saw on film. Uhm, I ended up like writing down for one of the guys, I go, this is Jesse Bates.


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[Assistant] Like out of, out of Cincinnati, right, who came from Wake Forest. He didn't


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[Assistant] Jesse Bates played more of the traditional free safety spot in college, but if he was on Michigan, he'd have been playing this Dax and Hill combination.


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[Assistant] A player. No, I know. You don't think it hurts him? I don't think it's hurt him, and I think Minka Fitzpatrick soothed people over a little bit with that stuff to realize like, like listen, he can cover and tackle.


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[Assistant] If you can't figure out how to use that in the NFL, then you got problems. It's not him, it's you. Right? I mean, that's where I look at it. And I think you get to see...


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[Assistant] The majority of his film is in that one area, to where it's different than, you know, Minka when he was coming out or Justin Simmons at a Clemps, uh, not Justin Simmons, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, the other- Isaiah Simmons. Isaiah Simmons, thank you very much. I got Justin Simmons, Jordan Downes, another comp for Dax Hill. That's a good comp. That I wrote down, right. You know, thinner, really unbelievable change of direction.


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[Assistant] Unlike just Isaiah Simmons, excuse me, and Minka.


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[Assistant] With Dax and Hill, he's at the slot nickel spot about 90% of the time. So you really get to see what he is and.


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[Assistant] At the very least, you go, wait, we're drafting him to play that position right there, right? And then, oh, okay, we didn't, we'd like to see him backpedal at free safety a few times. That's not gonna be a problem. You know, I thought he, really, the ball skills were of that of the top corners in the draft, I thought.


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[Assistant] You know, and I wrote the comparisons to me where Jesse Bates, Justin Simmons, he's involved in so many plays. You always know where he is out there. Everything is easy and smooth. He...


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[Assistant] Uh, he was put, I thought, in the toughest position on the defense. They put more on his plate than anybody else on that defense as far as what was expected of this game. A lot of the times he was in the spot where you'd go, oh, this play is meant to


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[Assistant] That's a fair. I like that you're bringing these up too because I, you know, sometimes I go off a memory of these and I don't always hit some of these negatives. It's a true thing. You know, I didn't, it wasn't so glaring like to where in years past I've had corners where I've gone.


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[Assistant] Man, he's over, all over everybody, all the time, but never makes a play. But there was a certain amount of plays where he'd go, shit.


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[Assistant] You know? You're there. Damn. We gotta just fine tune that a little bit. But to me, that's the hard part. Is being there. You know? Again, one of the all pro corners or pro bowl corners from last year in the NFL, AJ Terrell.


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[Assistant] You know what his big knock was coming out in the NFL draft? Ball skills.


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[Assistant] Did you see him play against Jamar Chase? Jamar Chase had a good game against him. Oh, really? Jamar Chase had a good game against him?


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[Assistant] You know, to me, if you remember correctly, that to me was like AJ, that was when I knew AJ Terrell was real. Cause I went, Jomar Chase never got open the whole game.


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[Assistant] Never. I mean, he caught a bunch of passes, but AJ Terrell was there all game. You can teach better technique on how to play the ball or play the ball into the guy's hands better. You can't teach the guy to stay in the pocket of the guy that runs 4-3.


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[Assistant] And that to me is where people over-evaluate at times. You know, the hard part of staying with the guy and, you know, you mentioned it. Yea, we want to see a little bit better though with the ball.


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[Assistant] They definitely need help in the secondary in Atlanta for sure. Now, you know, do they want to go there with, what do they got, pick seven or eight or somewhere right in that range to where I don't think it's happening in there at that pick?


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[Assistant] I would think Atlanta is one of the few teams that's really in the conversation for maybe taking a quarterback in the top 10. You know, you know, again, we'll discuss this at the time, but like, what,


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[Assistant] Atlanta's in the top 10. If you like one of these three quarterbacks that I look at as a first round court, take it. What are you going to do? Kick the candle next year and go, well, I hope there's one we like next year and I hope we don't play that good and have a high pick.


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[Assistant] You know, just address it now. So I would think they're in that conversation there, but I have no problem. Again.


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[Assistant] The NFL with the receivers and the quarterbacks right now, you need more than one guy. You do. And we've seen that from some of the teams we mentioned earlier, early on. Unless you have some crazy great pass rush, okay, that's, you can get away with, you know, an average to a barely above average secondary.


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[Assistant] But if you don't, you need guys that can match up at certain times and understand how to play football that way. So I can see them going that way maybe in the second round. Sure. Something there for sure. So you really like Dax Hill. He's your number three. So you must really like Dax Hill.


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[Assistant] For saving me. I should do these things if I was a professional. I'd look up how to say these guys' names, but it just tells you I'm so into football, and I don't necessarily look at stats and all this kind of stuff. You just look at number. I was, I was gonna say Lewis Sign, but good thing you said scene. That's right. You helped me there.


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[Assistant] This is another one of my favorite watches in the draft. All right. Any position, any position so far. And again, I'm only about halfway through all positions. All right. I'm behind and.


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[Assistant] I'm just a sucker for guys that can fly and have no regard for their body. I mean, if anybody knows me since I've been doing this, whether it's


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[Assistant] Sign me up. I want him. So, yes, I love, I love this kid. He's tall, he's long, alright. He's a little bit narrow. It's a little bit of a different build that way, okay, to a degree. But, I mean, can really run.


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[Assistant] I mean, 4-3-7 on, you know, at the combine, it's 4-3-7 on the field. It's as, it's as fast or as fast as any corner in the draft, just straight away. So his burst, you know, out of backpedal, if he's backpedaling a tight end, runs the Y out, his ability to put his foot in the ground and go and drive on the ball.


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[Assistant] Off the charts good. I mean, he's got great acceleration. He's not the most fluid with hip somed. You're not gonna want him like, necessarily, guarding some shifty, tight end maybe that can, you know, run a double move or things like that. That's not what he is. Alright?


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[Assistant] You know, he makes up with it with the acceleration I talked about and then a little bit like we talked about with the guy from Louisiana has incredible


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[Assistant] So, it might not always be the smoothest, greatest hips in the world and all of that.


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[Assistant] This, and then you just tell me to run straight? Man, he can fly. He really can. Let alone, I think he was the most physical. He, or Cook, I think would classify as the most physical tacklers presence on the field as far as the safeties in this draft.


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[Assistant] He, he, he, I, I watch, that's what I do, first off. I, I try to watch the big games, right? Cause usually the big games, you're seeing the best competition, it gives you the best feel.


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[Assistant] You knew he was out there in every one of those games. He has a real presence in the run game and the pass game. You know, the pass game, short passing game, screens, all of that. You know, like Daxton Hill.


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[Assistant] And like the number one safety we're gonna hit on here in a minute, their ability to read and react and kind of be a step ahead of the play, that jumped off too. You gotta have that at safety. You know, I thought there was


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[Assistant] You could tell he's smart, not only by angles he takes.


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[Assistant] You know, having a little anticipation for what routes are coming, but also as the quarterback of the defense. I mean, it's, it's every play. It's not every play he's looking around going, wait, what am I doing? What am I doing? Everybody's asking him and he's pointing everybody to what to do. So that's another thing I look at to go, okay, wait,


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[Assistant] It looks like he's instinctive, and now he's the quarterback of the defense, so he must be smart and really have a clue. And then you talk about the speed, the length again.


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[Assistant] Just the pure physicality, it is real. To me, again, the guy he reminds me of in my comparison, and I know I didn't write comparisons down for everybody, I wrote


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[Assistant] The body and the player himself is like Marcus Williams.


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[Assistant] From the Saints, who just signed a huge contract with the Ravens, right? It's that. Except he's maybe not as good in coverage, but he's better in the run game. He's more of a hitter and got the physical presence about him. Or I wrote Eddie Jackson. You know Eddie Jackson, who of course for the Bears got a big contract a few years ago? Similar to that,


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[Assistant] I just wrote faster and more physical, similar build to that though, a little bit more narrow, not your traditional like, whoa, he's got traps and biceps and tris and.


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[Assistant] You know, Cook from Cincinnati can do some of that stuff. This is a guy you want, hey, he's in the deep middle and we want you, if they throw a go route to the chase on this side or one to Higgins on the other side, we expect you to be there when the ball gets there because you're fast and you can turn and go that way. And then,


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[Assistant] Okay, hey, this next play, oh, the other guy went back to free safety. We need you to get right in between the Will and Sam Lyme, or the Will and Mike Lymebacker here and insert, and you're responsible for the B gap here in the run game. And if you see a run coming, you gotta lay the sledgehammer down and go make the tack. He's made for that.


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[Assistant] There is some recent concerns. There is. I get it. The 40 time when he ran, we ran 4, 5, 9 at the combine, right?


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[Assistant] You know, Seen, like we talked about, his acceleration is off the charts. I mean, it's 4.3. It's elite receiver, elite corner type speed. So yeah, he's not that, for sure.


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[Assistant] Now, he's 30 pounds bigger than Daxson Hill, too. Let's remember that. 226.4. He's a giant. So there's a different man here. We're talking about a totally different guy. Right? And, like, the speed? Yea, I'm a little disappointed in it. I hear everybody.


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[Assistant] But, like, have just seen too much on film for me to go, I'm not really worried about it.


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[Assistant] How many times you gotta see him run down a running back or a receiver or, you know, playing center field and breaking on a ball and covering as much ground as anybody in there. So like the acceleration and all that, yeaah. It's not top notch, but I didn't come away watching film going,


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[Assistant] Man, it's, it is. It's 4-6. He's slow. I did not at all. I really didn't. You were surprised at the time. It wasn't like it didn't confirm. I was definitely surprised at the time. I thought he would have been a mid 4-5 maybe.


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[Assistant] 4, 4, 8, 4, 4, 9, something like that. But here's the other aspect of this. First off, tell me this right here. Here's a slot receiver.


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[Assistant] First off, out of all the safeties, other than Daxson Hill, this is the guy that's probably got, he's got the best coverage skills. I mean, he can play almost nickel corner.


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[Assistant] I mean, really? Alright, so here we go. Does this guy, does this right here look like a guy that runs 465 or 459? It doesn't to me.


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[Assistant] Again, I don't know. And there's a lot of plays on film like this.


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[Assistant] You know, and then you talk about, okay, 6'4", he's 220. He can do all of this. He's phenomenal at this stuff, Ahmed. He can play second level linebacker, strong safety, nickel, free safety. He can kind of do everything there. And because of that size and length, you know, he's very good at like,


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[Assistant] Kinda what we talked about with Cook with Cincinnati. I mean, there's just so many plays where...


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[Assistant] Oh, it's a toss sweep and the slot of the tight end are trying to block him. And he kind of just, what? Nope. You're not going to block me. I'm going to hold you out here. Okay. Now the ball's out in my area. Get away from me. I'm going to make the tackle. Too much of that, you know?


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[Assistant] Feel instinct for the game. Just knowing like, you know, hey, oh, it's, you know, it's a third and short. The ball might go in the flat here. I've seen this on my film study, blah, blah, blah. And just seeing it, recognizing it, and go. I mean, to me,


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[Assistant] You know, those things were all really special. So, that's, that's, you know, why I would make him number one. Is he generational to me like he was? Like, was it like Jamal Adams? Okay. Jamal Adams, when he was coming out, I remember turning on the film going, oh my freaking gosh.


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[Assistant] This guy is unreal. I remember going, is this the best player in the draft? Like that's what I was.


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[Assistant] You know, I hadn't watched the whole draft at the time. I didn't come away like that with Kyle Hamilton. I'm not gonna lie. But, 6'4", 220, run, hips.


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[Assistant] Yeah. You say no. I say no. That's, I mean, that's first of, too, too high. I don't think he's that great. Alright?


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[Assistant] Second thing is, the thing that I think hurts Kyle Hamilton a little bit is, there's a lot of good safeties. It's gonna hurt him, I think. Because I think if you're sitting there and going, wait, we're a team at pick number seven or eight and we need a safety. You go, well...


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[Assistant] There's gonna be a good one on the board at the top of the second round when you're picking a 39 there. There's gonna be a good one, right? Or, you could go, maybe you trade down if you need the safety. You know, again, I don't think the difference between Kyle Hamilton was so much greater than the rest of the group that you go, oh, we have to have him right now and pick 6 or 5 or 7.


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[Assistant] I am thinking about it. Because it's a good conversation. I never really thought about it that way. I think he's gonna be more made for the NFL than he is college football. And he was good in college football. I think that's probably why I think it too.


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[Assistant] I do. You know, and I just think it's very rare to be that size and to be consistently asked to cover nickel receiver, I mean, slot receivers the way he does, right?


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[Assistant] They could. They could. That's where I'm, I'm, I'm almost want to backtrack on my stuff here a little bit to where I go, you know, a little like,


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[Assistant] There's just no, to me, where maybe I'm misvaluing or maybe I need to stick to my guns with the generational talent a little bit more is like, it's just, there's no weakness to his game, I guess, is where I looked at, I look at it. You know, do I wish we had, we could match a little bit of a better number with the 40 and all of that?


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[Assistant] To me, he is, it's generational in the fact that the size, the length, the hips, you know, the ability to play the ball. He brings it hitting and tackling. He's very good open field tackler.


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[Assistant] No, we have not seen anybody that big. And then when you look at that big, and I think like you talked about those coverage skills, like let me just read some of the few things because this is the last thing and we're getting out of here soon. Like, has the ability to cover wide receivers at a very high level. He is sudden and twitchy.


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[Assistant] Right. And I mean that again, like, Hey, he's sitting there at nickel and okay. Like they throw a bubble screen, his ability to like react to it right away and get in that position we talked about earlier with the wide base and being like, you're not going to get around me. I'm ready to twitch and go any way I want. He's, he's great at that stuff.


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[Assistant] He's great. You know, he moves really well in short areas. He's made for that second level of an NFL defense. You know, is there a little bit of a build up speed? Yes, but it's not bad. And, you know, incredible range of free safety.


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[Assistant] He plays the Jeremiah, he played the Jeremiah Wusokoro position this year, which is basically weak side linebacker slash nickel where they try to get away with like, you know, here's a freaky guy who's not really a cover guy, but he can cover good enough and we need them in the run game. So he's like, that's what he did. So I think that says something too.


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[Assistant] Oh, we just, this guy who was really a top 20 pick that had a heart murmur, we want you to fill in for him and no problem. So, you know, that to me says a lot too. Really good tackler, really physical, takes on blocks really well. You know, and then I put the last thing and maybe this is where.


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[Assistant] He's elite, or where we gotta go, it's, it's generational.


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[Assistant] He was put on earth to cover the past catching NFL tight end, to me. He's put on earth to cover Travis Kelce and Evan Ingrams and the Darren Walsh of the world.


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[Assistant] He is. So that's maybe where we can see him be generational, where you don't get to see that in college because nobody knows how to feature anybody in college anymore. It's just, you know, college offenses have come down to this. Let me see the one guy I can get the ball with who has the least amount of people around him. And then that's our play.


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[Assistant] Oh, that receiver way over by the sideline. They're not double-cut. Let's just throw it out there and we'll just throw it to him. Yeah, he's behind the line of scrimmage, but we'll just let him make a play. I mean, that's college football. So it does guys like him an injustice at times because it's like.


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[Assistant] You don't get to see his specialized skillset, I think, that will translate big time in the NFL. Really good question with the generational thing, though. You have to be reeling in thinking.


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[Assistant] That's where, that's where I guess I think I've been thinking is generational. It's a little bit more of a projection generational and I think a lot, like a lot of Notre Dame kids, they translate to the NFL game more maybe than they do the college game. Take us back to when you saw them a couple years ago.


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[Assistant] First time I saw him. I'm on the practice field. It's mid-August. I'm out there at Notre Dame. First thing I went is I went...


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[Assistant] Who's this number six kid? Cause I was going, who's this number six kid? And they were like, oh yea, he's gonna be our linebacker. And I was going...


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[Assistant] I was like, he covers better than every corner. Yeah. I mean, so he was amazing and then it was like,


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[Assistant] Who the freak is this tall beanstalk in the middle of the defense playing, you know, and they were all like, Oh, that's our freshmen. That's Kyle. Kyle Hamilton. He's a freak. Oh my gosh. Blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] The next five minutes, he had like two interceptions in practice. And then I was like, well, he's tall. You're not going to hit anybody. Then like a few minutes after that, he had like an unbelievable collision. And I was just like, oh my gosh. And they were like, and I can't remember if it was Brian Kelly or somebody else. They were like, yeah.


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[Assistant] He's a three year guy. He ain't going to be here that long. And it was like, yeah, no, he's not. He's out of here. He's going to be out of here at three years for sure. And that was my first experience, let alone.


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[Assistant] Kept it up, passion, everything you want from him. Right. You know, I mean, so, we'll see. I, you know, again, I wrote top 20 pick. I did not write top 10 pick down. That's interesting. I know.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the one where I look at for the Jets, you know, more, you know, again, some of these guys...


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[Assistant] I gotta get a little better feel for pass rushers than offensive linemen. Yeaah. Brian Cook could be one of those guys that's there.


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[Assistant] At the top of the second, right? For them to take and be that type of guy, certainly. You know, I look at like, Dax and Hill as being more of like a Jimmy Ward.


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[Assistant] Lamarcus joiner type guy, right? Just smaller heat seeking missile who can cover, but he tackles and he doesn't realize he's 190. He thinks he's 235. Right? So that, that, that to me could be that, but also with the jets to be a little more specific to thought there's a lot of corners that kind of fit what they want.


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[Assistant] As far as tall, long, jam, get back, don't let the guy run by you. There's a few of them in the draft too that are going to make sense. You know, guys, guys that are like a sauce gardener, whether they want to take him in the top 10, I could certainly see that happening.


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[Assistant] You know, second, third round guys, a kid from Tennessee, Alante Taylor, he's got a similar build to that. There's a lot of 6-1-ish corners in the draft here that will help the Jets out in the secondary as well. You got a Jets fan up there who's listening, hanging on your every word here. Oh, there he is. JK, JK, does, does, do you want a safety in the top 10?


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[Assistant] I, you know, again, we didn't get to get into it because we didn't do positions today, but I had a bunch of guys where I'm gonna go, damn, this guy was good too, this guy was good too, this guy was good too. The corners, I felt myself wanting to come away a lot of times going, ehh, he's a little overrated from everything I'm reading.


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[Assistant] And he's a really good player too. There's no doubt about it. He was again, a part of this group. There's about four or five that were just on the outside looking in. But yea, Jaquan Brisker, good player, uh, definitely. And yes, like a second round, I think I ended up writing like kind of a mid-second round pick somewhere in that range. Alright. Well done. Thanks man.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think there's just one, but I'm not done with the whole list. Which is big. If there's one, that's big. The kid from Iowa State is going in the first round.


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[Assistant] Sorry, I don't know what to say. If you don't like 230 pounds in 4.3, then I don't know what you like.


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[Assistant] Alright everybody, be good. Ahmed, thanks for driving the ship as always. You the man. Thanks for doing your research, asking the appropriate questions. It's what we do. Challenging me on some of my shit. How dare you. And get me a t-shirt. Alright, thanks a lot. Alright everybody, Wednesday, podcast, running backs. Be there, be square. Peace out, have a good few days. See you then. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a total mess. Uh, the first pick market. Normally there's a bit more clarity. Like last year, just everyone knew Trevor Lawrence was going to go first. Uh, and that was just completely done.


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[Assistant] This year, we've had nine different favorites to go first overall. So just the total mess. It wasn't that long ago that Spencer Rattler was the favorite to go first. So now, now we've got Trayvon Walker at minus 300. Still don't entirely trust that, but he is the favorite at the moment.


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[Assistant] But mostly it's, it's sharp bettors who are betting the market and they're, they're placing big bets on Trayvon Walker. Then we move the market in his favor. But again, it's not like.


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[Assistant] For instance, in the Super Bowl, we have so much data, there's so much information that we're so confident that the Rams should be four and a half point favourites over the Bengals.


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[Assistant] This kind of market, I really can't tell you with much confidence who should go number one or who will go number one, but everything at the moment is, is, is pointing to Trayvon.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you can beat them, um, if you are really studying them and studying the movements. So he's the big one. We would like the shock to happen and Aiden Hutchinson to go first. You still are hanging on to the fact that, you know, all the reporting has been that


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[Assistant] The owner wants Hutchinson, the GM wants Walker, and the coach wants Aquano. So hoping that the coach or the owner will ultimately have their opinion be the one that triggers the pick. But yea, at the moment not looking too good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Stingley is an interesting one where, you know, his stock, it dropped a little bit. And now in recent days, it's really surged where now we think there's a pretty good chance that he goes three overall to Houston, uh, where he is starting to edge out Source Gardener there. But the thing is, is that, you know, if Stingley doesn't go three, he could fall out of the top 10.


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[Assistant] Very conceivably, uh, because there just might not be as many landing spots for him.


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[Assistant] It seems like if the Jets are picking a corner at four, that they prefer Source Gardener. I think that Source Gardener is, is the more likely player to, to go in the top 10, but Stingley might have that higher upside going to three. So that's been a tough one to figure out. And then yeah, cave on tip it though. I don't really understand.


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[Assistant] Uh, how everyone has just cooled on this guy, cause this guy was, you know, not that long ago. He was minus 110 and the favorite to go first overall. Uh, he was thought of in a different stratosphere, the Trayvon Walker. And now Trayvon Walker is the guy who's minus 300 to go first.


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[Assistant] And Thibaut is looking like, yeah, maybe he'll go forth, uh, to the Jets or, you know, there's some chance that he could slide out of the top 10 as well. So he's probably the guy who is the most interesting, um, to me, just in terms of, you know, where he will go. He's got probably the broadest range of outcomes where he can go anywhere from two to falling outside the top 10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so what you can do is you can bet on his draft position over Runder, so you can basically bet on


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[Assistant] Uh, you can bet to fade him or you could bet for him to fall outside of the top 10 or you could look at guys who, uh, you know, you think are more likely to go to the Jetsets for, you know, like a source garden or potentially an offensive lineman. So there are, if you think someone's going to slide, there are lots of ways to fade them.


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[Assistant] Um, by betting them to go, you know, later than they're over under or just betting, you know, the other players at the picks where they're most likely to go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, again, total mess. Uh, who knows what's going to happen? Uh, we might say, you know, right now we have the over-under.


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[Assistant] Two and a half, quarterbacks being taken in the first round. Obviously the two guys most likely to be taken.


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[Assistant] Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett, uh, I expect they will both be first rounders. And then the real, I guess, hinge point then is, you know, is someone going to take Desmond Ritter or Matt Corral in the first round and potentially, you know, with the last pick of the first round. But yeah, I mean,


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[Assistant] For us as bookmakers, it's much easier when there are just superstar quarterback prospects because they just kind of form tent poles in the markets where, you know, last year was, was easy at the top. We just knew Trevor Lawrence was going one. We knew Zach Wilson was going to, and then the pivot was going to be who goes three. Uh, so this year much more complicated.


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, I mean, right now we have Willis going his over-under is around 15 and a half and Pickett is 17 and a half. Think that the most likely team.


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[Assistant] To take, uh, Kenny Pickett, um, uh, and Willis at this point in time would be the Steelers and the Panthers. They're probably the teams, um, that are most likely to get involved there. But, I mean, there are just, there are so many quarterback needy teams that he really, they really could go anywhere in the twenties. And there are teams as well that


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[Assistant] You know, I think that might be willing to trade up. Right. To get a quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, you're not having to trade up for, you know, pick three, like San Francisco last year, you're potentially having to trade up for like pick 28. Uh, so it's much less to give up and, you know, you just look at the teams like, you know, not just Pittsburgh, Carolina, but teams like Seattle, New Orleans, Atlanta, maybe, you know,


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[Assistant] Houston seems relatively content with Davis Mills, but you know, if the opportunity arises, maybe they could get involved. So yeah, it's just kind of, uh, it's chaos with the quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] It's much more difficult to price when there's just so much uncertainty everywhere. Like last year at least, you know, knowing the first two picks and knowing that, you know, there were going to be ripple effects from three and we were pretty confident that the land was going to take Kyle Pitts.


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[Assistant] A year like it, the only thing I can remember as a parallel is, is in the NBA, the year that the Cavs took Anthony Bennett first overall out of nowhere and there was no real star pick. But in the NFL, there usually is the quarterback, at least one of them who we know is going to go on the top three or four. Uh, but this year is, uh, yeaah, it's chaos.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Ridd is a really interesting prospect. He's, I think a lot of the advanced numbers really like him. A lot of the advanced scouting likes him as well, sees him with.


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[Assistant] You know, he has, he is a guy whose stock is definitely rising, uh, and he's, yeaah, he's surpassed, you know, the likes of Matt Corral, um, to go, you know, in the top three quarterbacks. So right now we think he's a pretty solid bet as the third quarterback off the board.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think Kay Walker, his stock is definitely rising.


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[Assistant] in the league. And so someone like Kay Walker has immense upside. His measurables are off the charts, his speed is next level. I think he is a guy that definitely could sneak into the first round.


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[Assistant] I'm doing well, and it's like you don't have to tease me or nothing, cause nobody cares. Uh, so, here he is, and thank you Paul.


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[Assistant] And I haven't been on the damn podcast, I don't think, but maybe once or none the whole off season.


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[Assistant] And beat you out with that football team and training camp and preseason, then wow, I don't know what to say. Give the money back. No, I don't think he'll beat him out for sure. You know, it's look, you know.


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[Assistant] Well, not even, yea, that, even if he was a first round pick, I don't think he would beat him out. Because, it's not like Sam Darnold has no talent. And he's been there, and his friggin' career's on the line here.


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[Assistant] And he's gotta try to save his starting job, maybe not for Carolina, but somewhere else. And of course a lot of that has to do with how Matt Corral does. But, hey, I only deal with what I watch on the games.


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[Assistant] And I don't know all the off the field stuff. What I heard about Matt Corral was probably more than even I thought it was, but I thought he was, you know, the best one as far as looking at the film and all that stuff coming out. The arm, his quickness, uh, his accuracy, all that.


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[Assistant] Now, for some reason, he ran RPOs, and that's a really negative when all these other guys are grading him. Oh, he don't run RPOs. Well, what the hell's the other guy's doing?


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[Assistant] Throwing fifty screens a game and, you know, missing people, whatever, and, I don't know, so. Oh, I know. As you can hear, Paul,


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[Assistant] I get a little frustrated listening to some people talk about certain things and


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[Assistant] And I've done a good job here in my career of not just single-handed, not single-handedly.


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[Assistant] Not calling their names out and go, what the hell? I almost went on Twitter a few times after the draft before.


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[Assistant] Just the right things, just go, well if I do that, man that's really gonna cause a firestorm and I got enough problems in life so I'll let it go.


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[Assistant] Well, look, we know Kenny Pickett's gonna get to compete for the job. Right. So, is that a good situation? Pittsburgh's stable.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I think he fits a lot of things they want to do. It'll be interesting to see the offense, all that.


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[Assistant] But they want him to be the quarterback as soon as possible. I think we all would probably agree on that. Mitchell Trubisky physically has talent, got a good arm. It's not the most accurate throw in the world, but you know.


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[Assistant] And that'll be interesting. I think it'll be very hard for Kenny Pickett to beat him out before the, for the first game starting the year. But, uh, what was the question, Paul?


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[Assistant] Well, you gotta look at, uh, down there, you look at Ritter and Atlanta.


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[Assistant] And you look at Malik Willis, and I'll just make it quick, in Tennessee, just right away, we have two guys that, the fan base, the media, everything about it,


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[Assistant] They're in, the starters are really tough situations, cause as soon as anything goes wrong,


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[Assistant] They're gonna jump all over this. Well, we gotta move on, we gotta see the next guy, and I think that's probably the strongest when I look at it, probably for Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] Just because the fact that Ryan Tannehill, the playoff game against the Bengals, it's there. It won't go away.


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[Assistant] And it'll be brought up every time he throws a couple picks or anything in any game. We're going to hear it. Probably the opening statement of on camera with the TV crew when they do Tennessee opening game of the year. Well, Ryan Tannehill finished last year with three interceptions. I think he stinks. When are they going to play Malik Willis?


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[Assistant] You know, oh my god, of course I'm exaggerating, they won't say exactly that, but it's, the watch is on.


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[Assistant] You got a rookie quarterback, Malik Willis, got a good arm, can move around.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be there for them to orchestrate and make plays and to make these guys look good. Right. And uhm, so that will, if they do that...


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[Assistant] And they go overboard with it, all they're doing is creating another problem for themselves, especially early in the year.


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[Assistant] Oh wow, I rated him? Yea, I just, physically, yes. I think, I do worry about his size, I even said it when I did one interview, where somebody just said, look, he does look small when I watch him on, during the game.


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[Assistant] Christopher and I went down to training camp with the Jets and the first thing you did after you watched practice and he comes around and you see him, you go, he's a lot damn bigger than you think he is.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, so, and of course, he has tremendous talent. But I would guess Corral, then Kenny Pickett, I would go Malik Willis, Desmond Ritter, then Sam Howe of the Big Five.


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[Assistant] But now you gotta make decision making and all that is a big deal and the complexity of the NFL, which is always a step up for every quarterback, but it'll be bigger for him than the rest of them because


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[Assistant] I don't, I shouldn't say that, I wanna talk for you. But it was not a complicated offense, and there was a lot of things he did that don't


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[Assistant] Will not translate to the NFL, didn't find the next receiver, just lots of things like that, and will he learn that? Sure.


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[Assistant] You gotta make decisions and you gotta win with a lot of throws from the pocket. That's what we see every single year.


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[Assistant] And you talk about the mobility, that's great. It's a tremendous added thing for your offense, for the quarterback, but it's not going to win you the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's a really good one. I'm gonna say Justin Herbert. Don't have to think about it. I'm taking him first.


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[Assistant] And everybody, I, I kinda did this, and, oh, oh, were you a bro?


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[Assistant] Natural leadership and all that. But Justin Herbert's physical abilities are so extraordinary that I'm just going to rely on that. And, you know, it, we don't, we really don't take into account


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[Assistant] There's eight or ten guys max in the league that are going to make throws that the other rest of the league cannot make. And they're willing to do it.


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[Assistant] And we really never give credit for those great throws like we should. But you're talking about three really good


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[Assistant] Throwers and passers of the football. And I heard Christopher this morning talking about Joe Burrow. Right on. So true.


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[Assistant] I noticed it all year and talked about it many times, but even in person I went, oh my god, he's throwing the ball so much better. And that's saying a lot for a guy that...


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[Assistant] Won the Heisman Trophy, won the National Championship, had a great rookie year and all that, but man, that just shows you what you can do with trying to found out.


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[Assistant] A way to do it better and then really working at it and getting it done.


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[Assistant] And the Cincinnati Bingo coaches, as I stood around some of them in warmups, I kind of brought it up and they just didn't even hesitate. Oh no, what a difference.


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[Assistant] Man, you know, they saw it right away too, which is really cool.


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[Assistant] You know, I kinda sized him up, I kinda walked behind him, let me see, and I went, Damn, he's big! And...


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[Assistant] But you know, the laugh and just saying it, when I did see him, I just go, wow, he just, that was really what caught me a little by surprise. The size of him and, and it's, uh, you know, of course that's, size is a talent.


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[Assistant] That's why you feel sometimes all these shorter quarterbacks, you go, oh no, but it does worry you as they stay in the league and as time goes along. Because like I said, sooner or later, you know, the great, oh he's a dual threat.


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[Assistant] And all that, that sooner or later is gonna die in your career.


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[Assistant] Uh, no. They just, oh, you're slowing down, my man. Let's get you out. We brought in more speed and everything. The defenses, I even saw it last year with guys trying to run.


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[Assistant] Sometimes I go, oh my gosh, that would have been a 20-yard gain the year before, and now you're getting five.


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[Assistant] Because the defenses are fast, they're used to guys moving and...


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[Assistant] Man, they hunt them down like they're, as I always say, like they're on the Serengeti.


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[Assistant] You know, there goes the animal. Here comes the whoever running them down and taking them down and, uh, that's what happens, I think, to mobile quarterbacks as time goes along.


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[Assistant] Well, listen, I listened to the whole interview. I'm sure you guys did. I don't think most of people, I don't know if they did or whatever, talked about it.


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[Assistant] Like, oh, I heard one X NFL player say, you know, it was our job to get the next guy ready. That's what you do. And I go, oh man, that's such a crock. I mean, come on. Yeaah. What is Ryan Tannehill gonna do? He's a really nice guy. I think we all know that.


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[Assistant] Malik Willis, he's gonna treat him fine. They're gonna be in, sitting there watching film together, and they're gonna talk out loud. I guess that's mentoring.


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[Assistant] I mean, is he gonna just, you know, what are you wanting to do? And Ryan Tannehill said it right. They have assistant coaches, quality control people.


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[Assistant] The head coach or whatever, the offensive coordinator, all those guys are going to be working and helping Malik Willis. So where does his role come into all that except set a great example, be the person he is, and that's being a mentor.


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[Assistant] Being on, I would have just went on and I would have went. It drove me crazy. I will say this too, and people are going to take this the wrong way.


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[Assistant] But the fact that he opened up so much about his off-season and the everything that the last game caused him, all that, the mental, you know, that's all great, but


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[Assistant] You know, I, I don't know, I'm kind of into school. I wouldn't open myself up too much because...


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[Assistant] But trust me, the people that say they commend him for coming out and saying that are going to crush him for his weakness.


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[Assistant] His mind even more and now he can go to work with the Tennessee Titans and just, you know, forget about what happened against the Cincinnati Bengals and just be who he is and feel really good about it.


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[Assistant] And not be thinking about what went on last year and what I'm dealing with now.


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[Assistant] And man, it is amazing that, you know, he's had a really good career at Tennessee.


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[Assistant] His numbers are never gonna reflect what he is because of what they do. So everybody get off of that stuff too. But, it, it's, he's in a very, I think he's in a very tough spot and I even wrote down as I talked to you.


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[Assistant] Oh yes, and I said one year, probably two at most. And look, they have a good year, which they are a good football team, they go to the playoffs, it's all or nothing again.


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[Assistant] If they go to the playoffs this year, and we're going to judge everything about Ryan Tannehill and


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[Assistant] It's just going to be an interesting scenario that they got down there in Tennessee. And look, the Tennessee Titans taking Malik Willis. Wow, of course, look what they got him. That was great.


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[Assistant] They didn't have plans to take him in the first round, they let him go in the second round.


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[Assistant] So, you know, I think they know they got a guy that they're gonna have to work hard on or whatever, get him ready for pro football.


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[Assistant] For it to show on the field. And if you can't, that means you, you know, you got other things going on.


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[Assistant] I have no doubt all these young quarterbacks, once they learn the rhythm of the league, see that they go, wow, this other quarterback's a lot better than I thought.


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[Assistant] Some of them will, but you know what I mean. And uh, it takes a lot of hard work to become a starting quarterback in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And he's gonna have to really just be tough as hell, and it's him against the world. I don't know what else. I think it's the best way. It's him against the world. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, and in the back of my, the mind of a lot of these coaches on Tennessee, they're like, wow, you know, they're, you know, they, they want to see it.


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[Assistant] And they're gonna judge him probably differently, just because of that one game. Playoff games, that's the great thing is going to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] The bad thing always, during the playoffs, especially losing the Super Bowl, if you don't play well and all that, man, it's held against you forever. So, unless you go out and win other ones.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, too, I'll just, well, just to always emphasize it.


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[Assistant] It's down the field. It's high effort throws, and you know, he's done a really good job with that, but like I said, he'll have to fight his way through it, and we'll find out a lot about him and that football team as they start.


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[Assistant] The one thing that I think is a great learning lesson for all quarterbacks in


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[Assistant] You know, I put myself into it as a X1U, whatever.


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[Assistant] Is Tom Brady a state natural to what his body should be like?


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[Assistant] But now looking back, wow, what a great move.


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[Assistant] And of course we know he's neurotic about throwing the football and his mechanics and his


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[Assistant] Look at that. Oh my god. I mean he was just ripping the ball to the receivers and everything. But the fact that he stayed natural has really been a great reason why he is


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[Assistant] To build up, to get much bigger and you know, muscled and all that. You don't want to do that. And uhm, I think the fact it's helped him take care of his whole body.


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[Assistant] But also what's really helped him too, that's why it was just another reason why his arm has stayed so lively and so good through the length of his career.


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[Assistant] I would absolutely without question hire those guys to be around me.


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[Assistant] And, you know, look, I'm not complaining about it. Look, we trained hard. That was great. Brought the team together. We had so many guys, an off-season program. And all we did was lift and run.


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[Assistant] Run, lift, and run some more. That was it. It was all great, but yes, I would definitely change a lot of things on how what I did to my body. I would actually throw more during the off season.


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[Assistant] And hope that I had somebody to even show me more about how to do it easier and better. You know, that, that kind of gnaws at me a little bit. You know, as I watch eighth graders now throw the ball and I go, damn, this technique's better than mine was ever in my career.


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[Assistant] And it's, you know, because they're learning. So I think that's just, it's just a great lesson for everybody, all players, but again, they can do this because of the money.


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[Assistant] And everything, and they're learning a lot too as they go through their careers, and Tom Brady made a great adjustment doing all these things. So, you know, that's just my first thought on him. You know, you look at all these other quarterbacks, I will say, I heard you say this too today, Christopher, Paul,


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[Assistant] Christopher said, you know, you gotta look at Tom Brady now, in a whole different light than you ever have, and how can you even argue? I can't, and I won't. He's the greatest of all time.


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[Assistant] Because of longevity, the fact that he can throw it the way he does, and now...


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[Assistant] With his great success and all that he had in New England, he's taken all that and just doubled down.


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[Assistant] And he demands, and he's such an influence on the whole organization, I don't, I don't know if I've ever seen that. It, it, now he's knowin', what he's learned the last two years, now going to the year three, that Peyton Manning did this his whole career.


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[Assistant] The coaches, everybody was on notice, and that is not an exaggeration, cause I covered many of his games.


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[Assistant] Go to many practices, and the only voice I ever heard on the damn field was Peyton.


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[Assistant] And which was the first time I did it and I saw it, I just went, oh wow, what the hell's going on here?


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[Assistant] That's the control he got pretty early in his career and he took advantage of it. And he influenced all the other guys to make sure they knew their jobs, prepared and all that. And that's the other thing. Last offseason, I did some camps with my son Matt, or your brother Christopher.


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[Assistant] And we're watching a video, I'm going, you know, and it's after 15 plays, I go, damn, is Tampa the only team that ran good routes? And, and,


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[Assistant] You know, inside the NFL, Julian Edelman's on there, and I brought up some of these points to him. And he goes, well yeah, that's Tom. And I go, it's not the coaches down there? He goes, it's Tom.


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[Assistant] If you don't run the routes the right way and the way he wants it the way is right, he won't do it to you.


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[Assistant] And I said, yeah, I've always heard that. Is that really true? And he goes, oh, absolutely. It's true. No doubt. And I just went, yeah, so the fact is, just think of that. All that talent they have at Receiver.


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[Assistant] That's just another reason why we see, we saw him throw for all those yards, all those touchdowns, and I don't think it's going to change this year. With Byron Lefwich calling plays, which I want to talk about, and uhm, Tom Brady being


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[Assistant] That's so true. I think, you know, a couple things. Yes, John Elway was an unbelievable talent.


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[Assistant] And I've said this to you guys, the first time I covered one of his games as a broadcaster, I went, oh, this son of a bitch is pretty good.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeaah, he is pretty good, you know, when I was playing to hell with John L.A., you know, I don't hear about that, you know, but, you know, that's one thing, and I think too, we gotta remember, when you think about Peyton Manning,


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[Assistant] During the prime, early in his career, second year on to me.


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[Assistant] The problem, I mean he could really throw, and you know, I mean, that was a heli through his arm, like Joe Pearl, even more drastic.


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[Assistant] Boom! Spiral. Perfect. Spiral. Just, and bomb it away, whatever. And I had him, I think, the second game of his second year.


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[Assistant] And I went down there and I watched practice the whole day and I just remember going, wow, what a difference. I couldn't get over it.


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[Assistant] I mean he was really throwing the ball with power and everything you want. Of course Peyton had


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[Assistant] A bunch of his stuff cause I'm trying to make a video of how to do certain things as a quarterback.


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[Assistant] And of course he's a great one to always check and easy to get examples from him. But his footwork in the pocket.


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[Assistant] He just uses his upper body to make the throws. He does a great job. And that comes from talents, taking care of himself, and just having so many repetitions.


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[Assistant] During off-season, throwing, whatever, and so much in the games, that you're right.


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[Assistant] I think we underestimate what we see on TV and just take it for granted, it is special.


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[Assistant] You're so right. I think there's like always when I watch him play, and of course I watch the videos, and I watch it and I go, oh, you know, it's just, okay.


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[Assistant] And I just go, Connie threw that ball so hard, it's ridiculous. And of course,


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[Assistant] I'm sure he doesn't practice all the time or whatever, and the guys, I don't see him.


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[Assistant] That I don't go, oh he threw it too hard, that's why they dropped it. No, no. They're not doing that. They always say this about receivers. And I've asked many in my life. The guys that I work with, everything. Do you want a quarterback to throw it really hard?


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[Assistant] Or do you want one with a great... Oh no, I want that ball as quick as you can get it in my hands. And of course, they want spirals too.


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[Assistant] You know, at a hundred miles an hour. But I do want to talk about the, real quick,


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[Assistant] And Bruce Arians, whatever you guys, you can talk about it later, how he interjected or whatever, or they, some people say, into the game plans. And you know, Parcells,


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[Assistant] You know I always hate to go back to him, but he did, I was around him the most of any other coach.


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[Assistant] But he would always have the perception of what he wanted the game to look like, and that's what he laid out to us on Wednesdays, and that's what we would. It's not like he says, oh, I know this play. Sometimes he'd go,


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[Assistant] Overall sense of what to do to win the game, and how the offense is going to play, and the play calling, the defense, what we, and he would interject himself, himself on both sides of the ball. He would change defensive calls? We're not doing that!


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[Assistant] And then, you know, as I've told you guys many times, I could stand there and wait for the signal to come in the sideline, and I could see Bill going, Shut the F up! Run the ball!


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[Assistant] But, so just having the overall philosophy is, I think,


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[Assistant] The way to go, almost, is a hit. I know a lot of them are calling plays.


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[Assistant] A lot of head coaches now, especially offensive guys, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] I would think Bruce Arians would have been more involved in that.


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[Assistant] Aspect, right, but trying to come in and just start scratching and telling everything what he wanted to do specifically in a game.


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[Assistant] What's a hit coach do? Manage the players, put them in the right frame of mind during the game.


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[Assistant] Manage the game, that's, that's the other thing too. You know, managing the game, which is, that takes a lot of concentration.


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[Assistant] To me it's, yea, manage your players, all that, but the biggest thing is, manage that game. And that was probably, I knew how to do it, I really did, and I'm not even bragging. And as an announcer, that was the best thing I did.


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[Assistant] I understood timeouts, what to do, all that other stuff. Managing the game, I was always trying to manage the game from the boot.


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[Assistant] And I know it's a lot easier in that booth than it is standing on the sideline making those, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm askin', I'm askin' everybody else for their opinion, I'm the one who gotta make the decision, so. But, you know, that's just a little thought about.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, that big sheet you have, hell with it, we had nothing on it. And Tom Copland, who was the receiver coach, was in a total, like, gonna have a fit.


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[Assistant] Throw the ball, do all that really well, the game is over, we won.


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[Assistant] And all that, I'm walking across the field and Tom Coughlin comes by me and goes,


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[Assistant] I mean, we had seven pass plays in and we threw for 280 and right over, you know, I'm like...


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[Assistant] You know, I'm like, yeah, okay, I don't know what to say to all that. I'm like, yeah, that's what we kind of expected from him. But yeah, if we ran the ball, I'll put the Washington commanders in this. On the turf in Giant Stadium.


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[Assistant] Joe Morris, let's just say he ran for 180, which he did. He had some huge games against Washington.


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[Assistant] And then, if we played them four weeks later and would go down there, we wouldn't even try to run it. It would be...


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[Assistant] We're going to throw it down the field and we're going to do it a lot. We're going to really take some shots and we did it. And it would be from the first play on. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] He knew, oh, they'll get ready to stop our run game. We're not going to be able to run it. They're big, whatever. So we're just going to keep throwing it. And uh, yeaah, it was really cool.


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[Assistant] You know, he could change his philosophy from one game to the next, from one half to the second half, and that's why he was a great coach.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I don't know what to say to you Paul, except I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] But even with all this political power in one room, the fate of their countries lay in the hands of these guys. The 22 FIFA officials with the power to pick the host.


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[Assistant] But many of these men have been accused of abusing their power. And this was the moment they took it a step too far.


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[Assistant] How did FIFA go from organizing one of the most beloved sporting events in the world to corrupting it?


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[Assistant] FIFA's congress, made up of one representative from each country, was put in charge of voting for a winner. But really, this vote was a facade.


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[Assistant] Eventually, FIFA awarded Uruguay the rights to host the first World Cup, and it was a fitting place to do it.


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[Assistant] Uruguay beat Argentina in the finals, and FIFA made a solid profit, mostly from ticket sales. The World Cup was a success.


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[Assistant] Over the next couple of decades, FIFA decided to rotate the tournament between Europe and South America.


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[Assistant] Once the whole world could watch the tournament, the host nation became much more visible, leading many more countries to want to host more.


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[Assistant] Through the 60s and 70s, FIFA's membership started exploding. By the 80s, it had close to 170 members, mostly divided into six confederations with their own qualifying tournaments. And the organization kept getting richer.


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[Assistant] Take a look at how FIFA's profits grew steadily with almost every tournament until boom, the 1980s. That's when World Cup sponsorships, merchandise, and TV rights became worth millions.


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[Assistant] All of this money was largely controlled by 24 officials, the leaders of each confederation, and some senior officials like the president.


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[Assistant] This group was called the Executive Committee, or XCo.


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[Assistant] They had the power to distribute FIFA's money to its member countries, for building football fields, holding tournaments, and establishing youth programs.


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[Assistant] It was in this culture of corruption that FIFA, in 1964, decided to take the vote away from Congress and give it to Exco.


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[Assistant] Meaning that to host a World Cup, countries only needed to win the votes of a majority of ex-co.


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[Assistant] FIFA's corruption wasn't a secret, but they had moved their headquarters to Switzerland long ago. And that meant their finances couldn't really be traced to confirm corruption. At least for another decade.


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[Assistant] And try to outdo each other by promising new stadiums, hotels, infrastructure, and lucrative TV offers.


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[Assistant] Journalists had later revealed that Germany had bribed at least four EXCO members for their votes, including the official who abstained.


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[Assistant] It was the first publicly reported incident that revealed FIFA had another layer to its bidding process that involved cutting deals with ex-Co members.


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[Assistant] In the lead up to this announcement, FIFA had decided that the 2018 Cup would be in Europe. Four bidders emerged. England, with its expansive infrastructure, was the heavy favorite. For the same reasons, the US was the favorite among five bidders for 2022.


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[Assistant] This is Bonita Murciades. She saw the World Cup bidding process from the inside while working on Australia's bid that same year.


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[Assistant] But equally important was the fact that they stacked their bid with rich, influential, and well-connected people.


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[Assistant] It's a fairly small country, with a football team that's never qualified for the World Cup. It was also too hot for football. Temperatures could reach 50 degrees in the summer.


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[Assistant] It pledged to spend an astonishing $200 billion on infrastructure and build 12 brand new air-conditioned stadiums. A bid other countries couldn't match. And they didn't forget about Exco.


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[Assistant] British journalists would later allege that a Qatari-owned company paid Warner around $2 million for his vote.


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[Assistant] There's also allegations that Qatar made payments to three other EXCO members.


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[Assistant] But Russia and Qatar's advantages went beyond wealth. They were the only two authoritarian countries in the contest, meaning they were freer to work the shadier side of the bid.


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[Assistant] FIFA created a bidding process that would inevitably be won by the countries with the most cash and the least accountability. And the thing is, Russia and Qatar got away with it. But the scandals that followed nearly destroyed FIFA.


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[Assistant] Allegations emerged weeks after the 2010 vote. But it wasn't until 2015 that the FBI arrested several FIFA officials in Zurich and launched investigations into decades of FIFA's dealings.


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[Assistant] Even though no one's been put on trial for taking bribes from Qatar, since the vote, 13 of the 22 ex-covoters present that year have either been indicted or banned from FIFA at some point.


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[Assistant] Amidst these scandals, Sepp Blatter resigned in disgrace. So in 2016, in an attempt to clean up its act, FIFA gave Congress the power to vote on World Cup hosts once again.


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[Assistant] But the 2018 World Cup in Russia went on as planned, generating record revenue for FIFA. And Qatar is predicted to do the same.


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[Assistant] I first got interested in this problem in, I'm guessing, 2000. We published the paper in 2020, so it really was 20 years. My name is Timothy Gay, I'm an atomic physicist by day, and my secret identity is football physicist at night.


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[Assistant] The best way to understand why the ball turns over is to make an analogy with a spinning top. Spinning tops are like catnip for a physicist.


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[Assistant] What the football wants to do is exactly what the top wants to do on the table. It wants to circle, its axis wants to circle around that force direction. In the case of the top,


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[Assistant] The force of gravity never changes. It's always vertical. Whereas for the football, the axis of the force is changing.


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[Assistant] A very smart person once said to me, everything is simple once explained. It's a hard problem because first of all, there are a lot of potential explanations which seem


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[Assistant] Enticing at the beginning, but turn out to be wrong. Unfortunately, you can't really solve the problem without using some


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[Assistant] Relatively sophisticated mathematics, but the basic ideas are simple enough for anybody.


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[Assistant] That's, that's interested and is paying attention to understand.


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[Assistant] There's growing evidence that when it comes to the sliding sports, catastrophic concussions like the ones you get from crashing might not be the main driver of brain injury. Micro concussions are. Concussions so mild they can often go unnoticed, and so common that they have a special name. Sledhead.


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[Assistant] Your brain is soft, with a jello-like consistency. Normally, it's pretty well protected by layers of bone and tissue.


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[Assistant] But if your head gets hit or shook around or just moves too fast, your brain can shift inside its protective casing, bumping up against the sides of your skull.


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[Assistant] When that happens, the fragile neurons that make up your brain can stretch, or even tear.


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[Assistant] And when they tear, they release toxins that can harm other neurons.


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[Assistant] Triggering a chain reaction of damage and leaving your brain vulnerable to further injury.


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[Assistant] Concussions are serious, and come with scary side effects. But for the most part, they heal with time and rest. The problem is, not all concussions are obvious.


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[Assistant] But even a mild concussion is a concussion. And if it's not given the time to heal,


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[Assistant] The damage can become more serious and cause more enduring symptoms.


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[Assistant] From the outside, sledding sports look smooth. A graceful, if fast, run down an icy track.


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[Assistant] Even during the smoothest ride a sledder is tossed about, shaken, bumped, whipped around corners.


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[Assistant] Peter McCarthy is a neurophysiologist whose research focuses on how various forces affect our bodies.


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[Assistant] He told me that sledding is a lot like a very, very intense rollercoaster.


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[Assistant] G as in g-force. Roughly the force of gravity or acceleration on an object.


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[Assistant] Going for a stroll on earth, you're experiencing 1 G force. Riding an average roller coaster, around 5. Military fighter pilots average 9 Gs.


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[Assistant] And the average football player receives 103 G's when hit during a game.


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[Assistant] The g-force of an average concussion is hard to measure or generalize, but one researcher found that most diagnosed ones have a g-force between 85 and 95.


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[Assistant] And when another researcher measured the g-force of his own skeleton ride at the Whistler Olympic track, at its highest, here, he recorded 84.5 g-force. That spike only happened for a few milliseconds, but spikes like it can happen with every run. And then, there are the vibrations.


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[Assistant] Long-term exposure to vibrations can lead to a range of serious health issues, affecting basically all of your body's systems.


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[Assistant] There are even international guidelines about how much vibration someone should encounter in a given period.


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[Assistant] And when Peter attached devices on the helmets, sleds, and backs of skeleton athletes to measure how much they were encountering, preliminary results showed that doing just one run could potentially put you over the limit.


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[Assistant] All racing sports deal with both g-force and vibration to a certain extent, but normally they get dispersed throughout your body. When you're in the sled, there's not much between your brain and the vibrations.


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[Assistant] Years after she stopped sledding, Christina went to a specialist who ran a test called a quantitative electroencephalogram, or QEEG.


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[Assistant] When doctors analyzed her results, they saw this. Roughly, the red shading correlates to overactivation. In a brain that hadn't experienced trauma, those areas would be white.