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[Assistant] And you can't sustain those minutes on the bench without your superstar. If you have one creator, it's too easy to funnel, even in the regular season, five guys towards one smaller guard. And Mikey, I think that's what this team looks like.


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[Assistant] They're not necessarily creators, and that's a tough thing to find. It's not like they're just these bench guys who are...


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[Assistant] That part of it still has to come together. But what he does, what we saw coming out of college, what we all loved about Amani Bates, he's doing in the G League now.


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[Assistant] The next step, and not, and I don't think that's the question, it's can it fit within the system? Because he can't play like he's doing with the charge, with the calves. No. That doesn't mix together, but can he find a way to fit in? Is the talent there? That translates, yes. It's can he figure out, hey,


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[Assistant] I gotta find a way to get my shots up when I don't have the ball. And I have to find a way to be a contributor on defense, help defense, rebound because he's 6'9". He's doing actually five rebounds a game, it's pretty damn good for him. That's over what I would expect, but the talent's there with Imani Bates.


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[Assistant] The talent is there, now the Cavs gotta figure out a way to incorporate him into their offensive scheme and system to get the most out of him.


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[Assistant] Last, last time with Bates though, we drafted him on potential, the Cavs drafted him on potential. He is flashing.


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[Assistant] All the signs of this dude has crazy talent and things you can't teach.


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[Assistant] Which is what you pray and hope you get in the second round pick. Because you can't coach that. Exactly. And his stock is going up. He showed nothing. You were, you were, sell on him early. I went to one of the charge games, yeaah.


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[Assistant] His scoring and shooting was transferable. They- I- I-


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[Assistant] I had NBA coaches from other teams say they did not have him on the draft board because they were not confident he'd ever be able to play within the team concept of basketball.


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[Assistant] J-A-S-E medical. Just making sure we get it right. J-A-S-E.


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[Assistant] Let's go be on the UCSS WKYC show tomorrow. Coach Bernie in the house.


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[Assistant] One of the things you just mentioned, Bernie, is the chemistry between Flacco and the receivers, and he'd only been in the building for two weeks.


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[Assistant] To me it's unfathomable they could have that chemistry already that quickly, but, you know, you, you change teams, you have new receivers come in. How quickly can you actually develop that quarterback receiver chemistry? Or it's two weeks plenty of time and I'm just an idiot. Which I probably am an idiot anyway. Not the latter.


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[Assistant] Bernie, you were in LA for the Rams game, and I know SoFi is a beautiful stadium, but you were posting pictures on your Twitter of all the coolest kids in LA.


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[Assistant] There was one, you were with MGK, you were with all the, uh, the former Browns. Who was the coolest person you got a chance to chat with?


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[Assistant] I saw that. Would you, yes or no answer? Would you believe said projection? Like is it a vi- is it a credible projection?


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[Assistant] No, you get a chance to get a superstar, you go get a superstar. I'm about to say that's a little, that's a little... It's hindsight now. Yeaah. I don't think it's...


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[Assistant] I think two. Well he is this year, then he's a team option, but, uh, I would...


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[Assistant] Alright, so Bernie, here's the question. This came up earlier. Tyvis said if the Browns don't make the playoffs this year, he thinks fans will be okay.


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[Assistant] Everything from the Cardinals, the Colts, the Under in that game, the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] No, Miles Garrett, for the first time in his career, put up a goose egg. All across? Zeroes across the board.


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[Assistant] And one thing on this graphic, Tomlinson had all three against Arizona.


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[Assistant] The brand, the numbers haven't updated until after Monday Night Football, so I'll have to get the updated numbers, but they were in the bottom five in the NFL and bringing extra blitzers. They essentially, and that's Schwartz's MO. He wants to get pressure with the front four guys, but they do not bring extra blitzers. And yesterday,


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[Assistant] Ironically, I could pull this up for you real quick. I bookmarked the tweet. I saw Jake burns who, if you haven't spoken to Jake burns, really smart dude, he tweeted this out. Uh, yesterday they only blitzed 18% of the time.


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[Assistant] Thirteen by my tracking. In the last three weeks? Thirteen. In three weeks. They had nine, the last two and then four yesterday.


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[Assistant] That's where PFF gets a little iffy on what they consider a drop versus an off target throw.


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[Assistant] Earlier in the year, if I had asked you guys this question, I'm sure you would have answered yes. I'm gonna ask it now, and I'm curious if the answer is still yes.


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[Assistant] Game on the line defense needs to get a stop. Do you trust this Brown's defense to be able to get a stop? Not now.


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[Assistant] And Miami technically is the one seed as of this moment. Miami is? Over Baltimore, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Wow. Because of their win percentage in AFC games. Higher than Baltimore's. You can thank the Browns for that.


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[Assistant] If you would bet the over on Joe Flacco passing yards yesterday on FanDuel, you would've won a lot of money, because even as the weather gets colder, the...


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[Assistant] There was pressure from Dewan Jones, which forced Flacco to stop, plant his feet, and then try to throw.


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[Assistant] It also looked at when Flacco wanted to step up and throw, John Johnson, the safety had just started his break. He did. Hadn't flown over yet. Sat on it. When he had to plant his feet and then throw again, he under threw it by about 10 yards cause he didn't step into it. Yeah. And that's what allowed John Johnson to get there. Who knows what happens if he lets it go.


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[Assistant] On time, would more have got the catch. Who the hell knows? Was there definitely space to run? Was there definitely space to run? Absolutely. But I don't think Stephanski dialed up the...


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[Assistant] I'm just upset at myself. It was a bad read. I know I can play this game. So that's not my thought process at this point. My thought process. I'm just disappointed in myself. I let these guys down. That's bad. That's what I would expect him to say.


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[Assistant] We'll talk to the fans here in one sec. This is the Pochich play by the way, which you can see from the top angle. It does, the ball gets moved here and apparently the refs told.


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[Assistant] Up close, it's minimal movement, but it's definitely moving.


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[Assistant] There's the issue if it does get slid forward a little bit, then a defense attack could be considered off sides past the line of scrimmage because they're resetting where exactly the line of scrimmage is. And once they're set, now you move it up. So it's convoluted.


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[Assistant] So I mentioned this to G on our post chat after the post game show. If you missed, go back and check it out.


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[Assistant] Well, we were talking about Kevin Stafanski and how this was the Baker-Bressette playbook he dusted off. Looked quite different than the Deshaun Watson offense. Uh, and there's good reason, obviously, Deshaun and Joe Flack were very different skill sets. But it seems like Stafanski's creativity and all the wrinkles he has in his offense come out of this bootleg play action playbook.


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[Assistant] And then when they have to go into the more shotgun predicated offense for Deshaun Watson, it seems a little more stale and basic.


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[Assistant] And I compared it to my high school coach who literally bought a flex playbook off a coaching 101 website and handed it to me my junior year and said this is what we're running this year.


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[Assistant] Such as the first touchdown to Jerome Ford yesterday where they brought something back out they hadn't used in a while. I'm not even saying it's a knock on how they run the shotgun offense. I'm just saying it seems like the wrinkles and creativity.


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[Assistant] Like yesterday, having the running back chip Aaron Donald in the middle.


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[Assistant] Come more to that type of playbook than when we see Deshaun Watson or DTR or whoever in the more shotgun predicated offense.


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[Assistant] G, you seem to agree last night, but do you not kinda see that the same way? Am I, am I way off in what I'm looking at? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Different levels and more, uh, what's what I'm looking for? More creativity? Not even creativity, but pieced together plays. You run two or three plays to set up an extra play. And it seems like it's more continuous. Maybe it just looks that way.


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[Assistant] By the way, he was the most effective quarterback in empty sets in Houston, 2019, 2020. And in week before he got hurt, I know it was one of my stats. I forget what week it was, but they had the most empty shotgun snaps because he likes it and the lowest EPA or the second lowest EPA in the league in those empty sets.


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[Assistant] But just to give everyone context, Washington throws the ball 65% of the time, which leads Cincinnati 65 to Baltimore's number one in rush percentage at 51.2%. So it's 50 50 versus 60.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields has 70 carries this season for 400 yards, is averaging 50 yards per game.


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[Assistant] No, but he is 500, I just saw it say he is 500 rushing RTCA. Right, right.


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[Assistant] Brock Purdy and also Bull put the stat in the group chat yesterday that the Browns run the ball more than any team in the 2020 rating.


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[Assistant] The Browns, in terms of percentage plays, according to NFLteamRanks.com,


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[Assistant] I gotta pull up the right tab. Rushing offense, rush play percentage.


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[Assistant] McNugget, you wanna go to the kicker, right? Yea, I just wanna ask, and this could be quick, we'll wrap up with some other stuff, but...


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[Assistant] Dustin Hopkins, for the second time this season, missed an extra point late in a game that would have tied the game now against Baltimore. He had redemption, kicked the game winning field goal, and he's been beyond clutch for the majority of the season when it mattered most on field goals, but in a hypothetical world.


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[Assistant] Is the outcome of the game any different? We'll start with bowl, I guess, while I'm with you, Jay. If Dustin Hopkins makes that extra point to put it 20-20 instead of the Browns being down 20-19 with about 9 minutes to play.


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[Assistant] Oh, you know what? Dallas has missed an extra point. Bucker hasn't. Dallas's kick has not missed an actual kick. Bucker for the Chiefs has not missed anything. Perfect. That must have been when I heard it. I heard it yesterday.


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[Assistant] Mark Sanchez said no offense, should not be doing. Oh, he's terrible. Color commentary.


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[Assistant] Uh, some updates by the way. Kevin Stefanski is speaking as we are talking.


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[Assistant] He says he has no updates on any injury situations. We'll get to that later in the week. He also said he won't get into the quarterback situation and who will or who will not start against Jacksonville. And lastly, he said DTR is still in concussion protocol. He did not clear last week and we will get an update on Wednesday. But really no real update.


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[Assistant] No, he got put in protocol against Indy, but cleared. So he never- So he was concussed. No, no, he che- he got checked into protocol- er, checked for a concussion.


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[Assistant] What'd they finish, four and eight? Four and eight. And we actually got some college football stuff to do. So let me do a, the super chats on the Browns game. We could actually talk a little college football before we wrap up here, but.


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[Assistant] Deon, Kyle McCord in the transfer portal, plus Porterstein not being in the college football playoff. But the first super chat comes from Skilly. He says, potentially a dumb question.


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[Assistant] But do you think the fact that Stafford went against Schwartz in practice for so many years had an impact on how our defense performed? The secondary definitely needs Ward back. That happens all the time in football.


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[Assistant] To the Flacco question by the way, so last season were the Jets. His first two games, the second game was the Cleveland game. He had about 85 throws in those two games.


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[Assistant] No, he, he did not check out of the play call, but, and this is once again from Mary Kay's article on cleveland.com, Mary Kay's the goat.


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[Assistant] They just kind of matched everybody up and I was in the pocket for a long time. Ultimately, ultimately it was just a really bad decision. I was late throwing that pass. I really wanted to get it to more. I really wanted to get said, but like I said, they kind of had everything matched up. I had time in the pocket and I totally lost track of the safety.


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[Assistant] Uh, Reggie Glover says, Jay, you're right. You have to play the clock there. Why score quick and give Stafford, who was hot by the way, the ball back and a chance to win because they score too fast. So Reggie's on team Jay here.


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[Assistant] James Cosby says Schwartz has to reset this defense. Players reverted back to old bad habits. Schwartz's defense, it needs to dominate from here on out.


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[Assistant] Charles T also chimes in says, Jim Schwartz is getting, Jim Schwartz is getting a lot of balls shot his way because of injury. A lot of, a lot of bale shots his way because of injuries. Compared to Stafianzi's Venom, when he has lost Chubb, both tackles two quarterbacks and on the fourth quarterback, coaches Browns to a seven and five record. Evan419 says,


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[Assistant] Evan419 says, Jay just pulled a Billy Madison. We are all dumber for listening to that and may God have mercy on your soul.


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[Assistant] Uh, Aaron Snyder says it takes Bryce Young 40 passes to get what Mahomes can do in 20. The teams with the most efficient quarterback play with more leads can run the clock.


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[Assistant] And last but not least, Philip Chambers says, I really don't get Bull's argument against the run. It's so obvious Jay is 100% right. Bull continues to argue. You never, you're never on a,


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[Assistant] I don't understand the last sentence. You're never on a get they Jay. You're never on a get they Jay. I don't know what that last sentence means, but. And those are our super chats today.


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[Assistant] Can I offer a spin zone real quick? Sure. I actually think Florida State had the best case scenario play out for them. Because for the rest of eternity. Except they didn't win handily enough. For the best of, no no no, I'm saying for them to miss the playoff was actually the best thing that ever happened to them.


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[Assistant] Oh, I disagree with that. Oh, here's the thing. Not really. Watch what happens to Florida State when they play Georgia.


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[Assistant] Well, George's, bowls are so stupid now. There's already a hundred players in the transfer portal. None of these guys are going to play. And including Kyle McCord, which I want to ask about. He's in the portal. Are you guys sad? Are you going to miss this?


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[Assistant] The Vegas Lions, right now, Michigan a point and a half favorite, Texas a four point favorite.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and before I, uh, bring a DD in, I just want to remind all of you guys that today is a full day of content from UCSS. When we're done here, you can come back later this afternoon for the barbershop and a special pre-recorded episode of Behind the Glass that Mike Earl and I taped earlier. So we got content all day from 11 till like 5 o'clock.


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[Assistant] Yeah guys, I just want to remind everybody that as the weather is getting colder out there, the NFL offers stay hot on FanDuel. Right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet, that's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] If you've been thinking about joining FanDuel, there's absolutely no better time to get in on the action. The app is super easy to use. It has a wide range of betting options, including spreads, player props, over-unders, and more. So you guys can go visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, the official partner of the NFL.


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[Assistant] So Mike, I'm gonna actually let you set this topic up because this was yours from yesterday that you guys couldn't get all the way through.


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[Assistant] Five super chats here. The first one here comes from Chris. Browns have the best defensive team in forever. They'll bounce back this week. Multiple turnovers, Kool-Aid mafia.


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[Assistant] Rated says, I bet once, once a drive goes wrong, Joe throws a pick or something, the fans are gonna go and call for RG3 or Cam. Uh, we have the most impatient fan base. Love the show guys, go Browns. I agree with that.


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[Assistant] From Rinaldo Archer, my only real concern about Flaco is how long can he survive taking real live serious NFL hits. As an immobile statue in the pocket, is his body ready for a pounding, defenses will see red and attack hard. Which was one of my concerns too that I brought up on Behind the Glass.


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[Assistant] Right now, customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet.


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[Assistant] No, it's a little chaotic down there guys, so I'm gonna ask you, do you want to do the PFF grades right now?


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[Assistant] So our first player up, are y'all ready? Yes. Alright, we're gonna go with Miles Garrett. He's got a 90.2. Was that week 2 or week 11?


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[Assistant] Alright, so we got two week twos and a week eleven. Tyvis, you are correct.


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[Assistant] All right, let's see, 11 across the board. Were you all right or were you all wrong? You were all right. It is week 11. I don't have his week two number pulled up right now.


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[Assistant] Alright, so next up we have Amari Cooper. 81.9. Was that week 2 or was that week 11?


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[Assistant] Next. Alright, you can take it up with Mike when he's back from town hall. Alright, next up is Jerome Ford. 78.1. Is that week 2? Or is that week 11?


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[Assistant] It's gonna be week 11 cause this is a Mike fake right here. I'm going week 2, week 2. Alright, guess what? It's week 2. Week 11 he had a 54.3 overall.


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[Assistant] Alright, so this is actually our last one for the day that at least Mike made up. We can do more if you guys want. No. But I've got, no. Wyatt Teller, 80.9. Which week was that? 11.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we got two 11s. Tyvis, is that your final answer? No, I'm going with two, I'm not going with one. Yeah, you're going with two, but at least two 11s. Tyvis, are you going with the weak 11?


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[Assistant] Uh, before we move on to our next topic, guys, I want to remind all of you guys that we have our TV segment every Friday at 1130.


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[Assistant] Alright, 12.30, uh, excuse me, on WKYC. We take all of our exclusive Browns content, brand new, fresh stuff for 30 minutes over on TV. You can go watch us on WKYC if you have the channel or if you're out of market, you can watch us WKYC plus, and you can go check us out over there. We love the support. We love that all of you are willing to follow us off of YouTube.


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[Assistant] I've got Jacksonville right here if you guys want to hear this too. You've got at the Texans, at home against the Bengals, at the Browns, versus the Ravens at home, at the Buccaneers, versus Carolina at home, and then at Titans.


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[Assistant] Yep, we're just gonna keep going with us for right now and McNuggets will let us know when we have the next guest. Uh, for our members, we might have a very special guest for overtime. We're working on getting somebody for overtime. But our first Super Chat today comes from our favorite dank nasty ass master.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and don't forget guys, Barbershop is gonna be tomorrow night instead of Behind the Glass, which you had to move it. And then Thursday, while you're hanging out, you can watch a pre-recorded episode of Behind the Glass with me, Mike and Earl. So, look out for that.


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[Assistant] Gee. I'm Gee Bush, leader of the Kool-Aid Mafia, and I'm gonna tell you why. Dee.


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[Assistant] T.R. It's gonna be a household name in less than 48 hours, Jason.


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[Assistant] DCR is a competitor. Go back and watch some of his tape in UCLA. Watch the fire that he plays with.


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[Assistant] I think he came out and he feels embarrassed about the way he played.


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[Assistant] And he feels like this is his first time, the opportunity for him to go out and do what he needs to do. If I, you know, we get to the game plans and how the keys to victory.


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[Assistant] My keys to victory already. I'm going to give you a cliff notes of it. Hey, turn this thing into a college football game. I want to see some read option. I want to see some quarterback draws. I want to see some things that the Pittsburgh Steelers normally don't see. And I think if they can do that to keep him comfortable out of the gun, I think DTR could have a very productive game.


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[Assistant] Everybody has to come to the game and start. They got a game just like you got a game. Don't give those tickets to Steeler fans. The fans aren't supposed to be in there. You're supposed to be warmed up, ready to go. And I always, I coin the phrase, do your part.


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[Assistant] The Browns are going to do their part to try to get in the end zone. The Browns are going to do their part to make sure they get teams three and out. Do your part and be active when you get to the stadium.


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[Assistant] And I think there should be more calls to fans being active. And once you have a self-fulfilling prophecy, people will know that when they get there, they're gonna be loud and in charge. We owe them for them terrible times that they've been bringing to our stadium in the last 30 years. Let's flip the script.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh Steelers have no chance coming here. I'm going to let you know right now. Miles Garages defense is not letting them come in here to get no points.


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[Assistant] They're going to be on an all time level. I'm picking the Browns to roll in this game. DTR looks good. He'll be a household name and the Cleveland Browns will be seven and three after this game and we will look at the Baltimore Ravens and be like, I told you we weren't giving up. In the interest of time, what you guys said.


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[Assistant] I think Heisman might actually have a better game than T.J. Watt, just because, you know, he might be fighting on the opposite side. It'll be interesting to see if they move T.J. Watt around a little bit to get him a matchup. I know the Browns have done that a little bit more with Miles Garrow, we'll see if the Steelers do the same.


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[Assistant] Love it. Hey, listen, as I said, I don't think this game is that close. And I think the Browns come in here, uh, fighting for Deshaun Watson and Nick Chuck and Jim Brown. And I think the Browns come in here and do the thing. I got the Browns. DTR shows he's more than a rookie.


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[Assistant] 74 hours until we kick the stealer's ass. There it is. I really think we're gonna win this game. Welcome to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. It's the original three. That's right. Adam the Bull, Gee Bush, Jay Crawford, thanks so much for spending time with us. Mikey McNuck is behind the glass.


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[Assistant] Earl's not here today. It's his birthday. Happy birthday, Earl. Happy birthday. How old is Earl? I don't know. 36 years old. Somebody asked me yesterday and I said I'd guess I'm at 35. So when I answered that question, I was exactly right.


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[Assistant] You guys are moving around. Busy show. Uh, Bernie's gonna be here. He's bringing with him. I don't know. Maybe you guys saw this on social media because it was kind of making the rounds. You guys see his new shoe?


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[Assistant] This new shoe is... J-Rock did it?


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[Assistant] And I think it might have been an Italian designer. Orange shoe with brown tip. Oh nice. A zipper on the side and a couple of buckles on the front. Very fancy.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I just told him, make sure you bring a pair with you. That's crazy. So he'll be bringing a pair of his shoes with him. You know you hit when you have your own shoe. That's like, that's America's status. Are they calling it the Bernie? I think the box and the packaging has BK19 on it. Oh, love it.


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[Assistant] Adam the Bull. I've been growing my beard out too. He looks even better now.


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[Assistant] Very well done, Steve. That's what it looks like when I ain't got glasses on. Yeaah. I can't imagine that. I have 2010. When I put someone else's glasses on and I figure that's what they see without glasses, I instantly get ahead of it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was talking with, uh, some of Jim's closest pals upstairs in sports. And when Jim left, he said, my goal is November, December. And here we are mid-November. This guy is a warrior, boys.


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[Assistant] Uh, bully, or I think you kind of get what he's gone through because your wife Liz went through.


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[Assistant] Um, it is debilitating. It takes every ounce of your strength to try to get back.


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[Assistant] Very impressive. We can't wait, we cannot wait, Jimmy, to get you back in that booth.


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[Assistant] Not to disparage the guys that have come in, that's a very difficult job to do, number one. It's incredibly difficult because you're filling the shoes of an absolute legend. But for him to be able to come back and do it, kudos to you, Jim. We're thrilled to have you back.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I like that one. Wow. I heard his, he was really good. Well, Paul is tremendous. Yeaah, he's great. Yeaah, I love listening to his calls on the radio. First of all, he has like the quintessential broadcast voice. Yes, no doubt. Yeaah. Alright, our first hello and good morning to Mikey McNuggets. Hey there.


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[Assistant] Well, that was kind of the root of our discussion and disagreement yesterday was that I felt like this doesn't signif, it definitely lowers their chances, but it doesn't eliminate their chances of winning the AFC. I think it's significant. The more I thought about it yesterday, the more I dug in on that.


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[Assistant] See, I have a close, low scoring, but, and I think that's the formula to keep winning the rest of the year. Okay, uhm, you talked to a doctor, was this yesterday or today?


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[Assistant] Good job guys. Good information there from the doctor. Uhm, the one thing that we should point out is, uh, he hasn't seen any of the scans. He hasn't seen any MRIs. He's talking in generalizations. So in general, injuries like this.


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[Assistant] Well, I think if DTR looks good, he's your backup. But barring him coming in and playing really well these last eight games of the season,


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[Assistant] Exactly. That's a big difference. Then you're where every other team is. Right. In terms of a backup quarterback. Exactly. Someone that you feel if you had to come in in a pinch. Right. The Browns, right now, with PJ Walker, did not have that guy that they felt comfortable taking reps on. Interesting recommendation here. It's an ESPN Plus article, so it's behind their paywall.


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[Assistant] But uhm, Dan Graziano wrote a fascinating piece about Deshaun Watson's contract.


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[Assistant] Uh, the implications of that contract, both for the Browns and there was, there was a lot of...


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[Assistant] Chatter after the contract was signed. In fact, Bushadi came out with the Ravens owner came out and said, you know, it was critical of the Brown saying they shouldn't have done this.


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[Assistant] There were some that thought that this would reconfigure the pay structure in the NFL. It did not. Nope. And Graziano's basic premise is, uhm, if this thing had worked,


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[Assistant] Early on and was a huge success in the first two or three years, teams might have looked at it and said, well, maybe this is the way you got to do business. But because of the way it's worked out, because the first two years of the five-year deal have not been what they had hoped.


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[Assistant] He said that this just further entrenches the thought that teams are good giving three years guaranteed and working for the fourth and fifth and having options just because it didn't go the way the Browns had hoped it would.


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[Assistant] So there's still, you know, the last 60%, you could hit pay dirt on that. It's like you've got five scratch off windows on a ticket. First two were null and void. You got three to go. You could hit pay dirt in one of those. Right. And if they do, then they'll reassess the way they look at guaranteed contracts. But right now,


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[Assistant] Because of what's going on with Watson. And I'm not even talking about, you know, all the allegations last year. They knew what that was. This is a pop quiz. They didn't bargain for this. This wasn't on the table. Now look, when you sign a quarterback that runs and that's a big part of his game, that's part of the risk reward that you have to weigh into the equation.


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[Assistant] I think the reason teams want to give themselves some flexibility with that fourth or fifth year is because injuries. This is a gladiator sport. You never know. Injuries happen.


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[Assistant] Guys in their thirties typically don't get five years. And I can't imagine getting guaranteed for five years.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, we've had some time to think about it. I had said briefly that the more I thought about it yesterday, the more I convinced myself that the sky has not fallen upon us. It's not a good break. It is definitely going to affect the way the season plays out.


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[Assistant] For me personally, I think Deshaun Watson wasn't the strength of this team anyhow. Deshaun Watson is not the reason this team is six and three. He's had a hand in it, but to me, if I'm gonna start handing out, uh, flowers, it's the defense.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Browns are 6 and 3 right now. That's what I'm saying. I don't think he's the reason for them being 6 and 3. I think he's had a pretty big hand in it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and to your point, if you don't see them making a run, I'm going to ask you guys a question to assess


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[Assistant] You're right, but here's what, this is the point I've been making most of this year.


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[Assistant] Now, there's two of them in the NFC, but in the AFC, and that's what's so weird to me. Coming into this season, remember, we made a list of all the top quarterbacks in the AFC. Oh, it's going to be a gauntlet. Oh, how do you get through this? The way the season has played out, nobody's offense leaves me thinking they're going to put


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[Assistant] Major points up against this Brown's defense. So because of that.


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[Assistant] I, I, I just keep going back to this. The formula can be 17 to 14 wheels. Where I don't think last year that would have worked.


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[Assistant] We don't know that is the big question, but do you in general feel better now 24 hours after we've digested this news about the Browns chances this season than you did when you first heard it?


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[Assistant] They do have to play better than the one touchdown in eight picks that PJ Walker and DTR have combined for, obviously.


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[Assistant] Of the 32 teams and their play at quarterback.


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[Assistant] All of them combined. Where would the browns fit into that pantheon? I would think they'd be bottom seven or eight.


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[Assistant] A touchdown and a pick. Now, if I just gave you an envelope and you looked at it and you said, 2-13, a touchdown and a pick, it's not like he threw it for 3-15.


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[Assistant] Right, and let me just throw some numbers out. And, and, I think...


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[Assistant] I can't look at these numbers. Seven touchdowns and four picks, 1,100 yards. I'm not going to forget about the second half against Baltimore. He was phenomenal.


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[Assistant] But there were also 13 other halves of football that he played this year. And when you look at the whole stew mixed together, seven touchdowns, four picks, 1100 yards.


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[Assistant] You are the worst quarterback in the league here. So Vegas said the Browns were a three and a half point favorite with Deshaun Watson. Now they're saying they're a point and a half favorite.


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[Assistant] Is that better than the guy who's one touchdown and eight picks? Sure. Significantly? Well, yes it is. Okay. Of course it is. Fine. Fine. But we can't assume, cause really it's no touchdowns, three picks. Cause DTR's the guy now. Okay. I don't, PJ Walker's not playing for this team. Okay. He's not.


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[Assistant] So I'm looking at DTR. He completed almost 60% of his passes. He threw no touchdowns in three picks. His first start, hell.


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[Assistant] They just fired their coordinator. The Fills and Bengals were widely considered 2 and 3 in this division. They're on the outside looking in right now on the playoff field.


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[Assistant] He's going to be in all the extra meetings. He's going to look at tape nonstop every day. He's the focus of Kevin Stefanski and Alex van Pelt. One of the quarterbacks that Bull slays on this show on the regular, and by the way, I agree with you, is Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett is a middling quarterback, but you know what Mike Tomlin said this year?


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[Assistant] We gotta operate under the idea that we can't give the football away. We don't have an explosive offense. So here's our formula to win. Our defense is gonna kick your ass and we're not gonna turn the ball over. I mentioned Deshaun Watson's stats. Seven touchdowns, four picks. Kenny Pickett, six touchdowns, four picks. They're six and three. This


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[Assistant] I think our defense is better than Pittsburgh's. I would agree. And they've managed through smoke and mirror. This is a team.


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[Assistant] That through nine games has not outgamed their opponent once.


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[Assistant] Yet they're winning 67% of their games. So in today's football, the way it's being played in the regular season right now, don't give up stupid turnovers, rely on your defense for takeaways and big splash plays. That's how you, that's what Pittsburgh is. I like our run game better than Pittsburgh's run game.


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[Assistant] But I think that's a really thoughtful answer. And that's what exactly what I want to hear him say. To my point earlier, that now he's the only student under Kevin Stefanski's wing.


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[Assistant] I have seen Kevin Stefanski. Look at the games that this team has won under Kevin Stefanski with, I think it's five different quarterbacks have won games, maybe six. That's, that's pretty impressive.


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[Assistant] Is it solidified? Do you think that it can go up a notch just because now it really is like everybody thinks we're done?


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[Assistant] Okay, good. You'll want to tune in tomorrow because the stats of the Browns at home this year are head spinning. They really are. They jump off the page at you. And you know, look, I know no one's talking home field advantage anymore.


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[Assistant] I, I'm sorry. You voted for huge? Yea, I did. In truth, like, the difference between huge and minimoski is where the truth lies. You didn't give any middle ground. It's either huge or minimoski.


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[Assistant] I know, but here's the thing. If he plays like he did in the first game with three giveaways and no touchdowns, then yeaah, huge. Right. But, if-


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[Assistant] One touchdown and one pick beat the almighty Baltimore Ravens.


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[Assistant] Well, not pretty big. I mean, look, even with Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] And I think you would admit this, there were a lot of things that happened in that game, just like the Indie game, just like the, the, uh, San Francisco game.


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[Assistant] We got some breaks and I'm not going to apologize for those. We deserve the breaks. So I don't think the difference has to be huge for us to have come up on the losing end of that game. We damn near lost it with


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[Assistant] I also think too, and I love the way he answered the question about getting the week to prepare.


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[Assistant] My goodness. Bernie will tell you that. Tim Couch told us that after the Ravens lost.


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[Assistant] You don't even have to play the position of quarterback to understand what the difference is between being thrown in the fire at 10.30 on a Sunday or all of your game week reps were preparing for you to


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[Assistant] Even if he goes out there and plays well, I'm certainly not sticking in the, it's my flag in the DTR moon saying he's arrived. It's a week to week league. He can look like crap this week. He can look great next week and it can easily flip.


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[Assistant] Which is why I think that we're being a little bit of prisoners of the moment and we're, we're, we're definitely factoring in recency bias when we look at the loss of Deshaun Watson as this is like the Bengals losing Joe Burrow or the Bills losing, you know, it's not.


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[Assistant] I said, because I remember I watched that game in real time. And by the way, that game is this weekend. The UCLA USC game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I just remember watching it and I knew a lot about Caleb Williams. Everybody did. And I remember at the time saying, Forget Caleb Williams.


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[Assistant] Look, the USC defense is terrible. I mean, terrible. They just fired their defensive coordinator. It was terrible last year too.


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[Assistant] But my goodness, man, I... He was doing that. Chip Kelly had him looking crazy out there. It was really impressive. And I, when the Browns drafted him, I immediately went back to, okay, what was I saying about DTR at the time? And here's exactly what I was saying.


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[Assistant] So he was doing it all. I remember him running a lot. What I thought of though, immediately, I thought, when the Browns called his name, I thought, man, I like that kid. What was my impression of watching that whole USC UCLA game? He's little.


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[Assistant] No, slight. I don't mean small. He is slight. And I remember thinking, and I said at the time, I go, this kid with 30 more pounds on him would be a high first round draft pick. But that obviously wasn't the case. He was just too skinny.


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[Assistant] And I just, that was, so that was my first impression, but when I went back and looked at the highlights, now obviously the highlights just showed all of his highlights. Right. I didn't see his three picks. I do remember now that you said that. He threw a couple of balls that were, I didn't like.


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[Assistant] But I just in general remember watching him orchestrate and I thought his field presence was way up the charts for a college quarterback. Now, it should be pointed out that was his fifth year of starting at UCLA.


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[Assistant] That one in 59 now went down by, was it 14 points?


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[Assistant] But the defense has had some lapses. It has. Baltimore, first half, first two drives. Well, Indianapolis. Indianapolis, uh, you can't, you can't allow that kind of. No, they have to


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and you mention that, that they're, they're gonna have a heightened sense of awareness. Uh, it's, it's a bad sample size. I don't even know why I'm asking you to do this.


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[Assistant] What changes are you making to the offense for him, specifically for him?


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[Assistant] If he doesn't get that pick and the ball is completed, that's a big gainer.


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[Assistant] I know every team's internet, but man, we've got some key guys on the list.


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[Assistant] Coach Tyvis is much more composed this time. Yeah, he was really giddy last week as Coach Tyvis. No, he was giddy yesterday.


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[Assistant] I would disagreed with these guys because I asked them on Tuesday. I said I'm rooting for Baltimore. Well now, but now it's


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[Assistant] I mean, look, they're still in the conversation for winning the division. So some might say, well, if Cincinnati beats Baltimore, then we win over Pittsburgh. We're in first place. We're in line to win the division. I just, I'm with you. I still think Baltimore will win the division.


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[Assistant] And I, I want the death nail driven into the Cincinnati Bengals. Not that that's gonna happen tonight, but at five and five with seven to go, it's a big uphill climb.


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[Assistant] My problem was I let my mental image take over. So I didn't hear most of what Joel said.


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[Assistant] And it's all we have to judge him on right now. I think it's a little unfair. Let's wait until there's more hay in the barn. And I think he's...


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[Assistant] The hope here is there's a progression. I don't think he's gonna look great against Pittsburgh. As you said, he doesn't need to be. The idea here is with each start, he gains a little more confidence, he looks a little better, and by the time the playoffs roll around, he's then got a half a season under his belt, and he's ready to take this team into the next stage of the season.


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[Assistant] No, you're right, Aditi, that play is, uh, that's a dichotomy of the Browns season, and if they go on to do big things, and you say, pick one play that sort of encapsulates what we just watched, I think that's it.


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[Assistant] I don't ever remember someone coming up with a shoe post-retirement. I think you're setting a new bar.


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[Assistant] I like the mixed of textures. You've got some leather in there.


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[Assistant] To me, when it's compromised, and I think we all agree, and the doctors told us it was compromised,


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[Assistant] You know, one of the things that, uh, that McNugget said, and I want to ask you what this means. He told us that in the history of the Combine, since they've been putting radar guns on quarterbacks arms,


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[Assistant] That the highest recorded throw, the fastest recorded throw from a quarterback was from Josh Allen. 62 miles an hour. Now I was told once, and I don't know if this is true, that Brett Favre was once clocked like at 69 or 70 miles an hour.


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[Assistant] That was the record, 62 miles an hour. DTR tied that.


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[Assistant] What does that mean in terms of how does that translate into a game plan and to a successful quarterback that he can throw it as hard as any quarterback in the league right now?


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[Assistant] That's good to know because I was watching the weather forecast yesterday and the winds are supposed to pick up as the week goes on. They're going to be stronger tomorrow, but by week's end, they're supposed to be significant. You can be looking at gusts in the 25, 30 mile an hour range so that arm strength could be


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[Assistant] Not the Peyton Manning that we, that we put in Hall of Fame. Jeff Hostetler, he did it. Came in for Phil Simms. I saw it with my own two eyes. Oh, that's right.


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[Assistant] Super champ that said, come on, Jay, get real. They're five and one with the Sean Watson. You made my point.


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[Assistant] That, that's my point. My point is they're 5-1 with Deshaun Watson who has 7 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. That's my point.


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[Assistant] They're not going to go one touchdown, eight picks the rest of the way.


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[Assistant] I agree. I told her, you know, I got the Browns winning AFC North. And I actually got the Browns smoking the Steelers tomorrow, or on Sunday. It ain't not even close like that.


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[Assistant] You know, Doctor, when we talk about it, uhm, and you take, he has a bone and it's dislocated, uhm, from the other piece, uhm, we heard some, uh, comments that came out that Dashan wanted to just shoot it up and play.


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[Assistant] What would have been some of the downsides to just trying to play through an injury like this? And what is the long term, uh, long term ramifications of somebody trying to play through, uh, another season or the rest of the season with this type of injury?


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[Assistant] Doctor, moving forward, the timetable, we look at it, uh, he's been, he missed a lot of time with the, uh, you know, the other injury and obviously he had, he had the micro tear.


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[Assistant] And that's a little concerning. You know why I'm not concerned? Cause I see what his makeup is.


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[Assistant] I see that Deshaun Watson is going to put the work in to get where he needs to be. I understand that he can pay through a high paying threshold. And on top of it, they have a, they have a, this is the reason why DTR playing this week is important.


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[Assistant] Because if DTR gets an opportunity to play throughout this season, Browns make playoffs.


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[Assistant] He's going to be a guy that's going to be taking all the reps, all of the snaps and OTAs, and good. Because guess what? He has experience doing it, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] Second, uh, quarterback and Deshaun, I don't think we need to go through the thing of forcing him and rushing him to get back. I think the two things that's going to take a lot of patience for Brown's players, Brown's fans and everyone out there. So the two questions, what is Nick Chubb doing and what is Deshaun Watson?


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[Assistant] I actually believe whether DTR looks good or not, I think the Browns need to invest more money into that position because once again, we said it when he heard it the first time. You don't understand, you don't know if he comes in.


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[Assistant] You never know. Injuries happen. Let me ask y'all a question. If Sean Watson comes back next year, say, comes back off the industry, everything's fine, then win the Super Bowl, right? Yeaah. Do you think he'll get another guaranteed contract? No.


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[Assistant] Defense, running game. The Browns were dominant. I went back and watched the Ravens game, uh, the Ravens all 22 in the perspective of the Ravens. The Ravens, all 22 guys, the guys on the internet, they're like, listen,


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[Assistant] This Cleveland Browns team is scary. And we have nothing for them up front offensively or defensively. These are Ravens guys breaking the all 22 down. He said the way they run the football between the guards, we have no answer for J. Davey and Clowney, or excuse me, Miles Garrett. Like we have no answer for him.


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[Assistant] And the way that they played physically, they just looked like they wanted more. Uh, David Njoku said something when he came on, you know, came on, uh, on the show.


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[Assistant] And when people start to have synergy and believe it, it's a different type thing. If you look at the Cleveland Browns and you say, okay, well we beat the 49ers when everybody had crowned them.


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[Assistant] Everybody named mom crowned the ravens. They said just the best team. They even promoted their defense above ours. They got beat at home. So if you looking around the league and you saying, okay, why can't we beat the Dolphins or the Jaguars in the first round?


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[Assistant] Now, you gotta, they're in another mindset right now. There is no way the defense is gonna let Pittsburgh come in here and get a win. It just is what it is. Not to mention the fact that the Browns play lights out at home. They're gonna go play Pittsburgh, they got Kenny Pickett, and the thing is, let's not act like we've gotten stellar quarterback play this whole year. We ain't seen a 300 game yet.


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[Assistant] You're putting the blindfold on. In the second half, there's about 5 to 10 quarterbacks in the league that can do what he did. And those guys aren't on the browns. In the second half, and he got them that win. However, what you're discounting is this.


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[Assistant] The Cleveland Browns, even when they had Deshaun Watson at 100%, I said the strength of what the Cleveland Browns are is not Deshaun Watson, it is Nick Chubb in the running game. Gee, come on, let's be realistic. You picked him to throw for 5,000 yards before the season! How many times have I said that? How many times have I said you have to run to Baltimore?


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[Assistant] I'm confused. My thing is this. They were beaten, they should have beat Seattle with PJ Walker throwing balls off the helmet. They should have what it could have. If you say that, then I said they could have, they should have lost the championship.


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[Assistant] The point is, they've been in every single game this year, except for the Ravens, where they didn't even get to do it ready until 1030. So my thing is, why do I feel like now, the rest of the season, they're going to fall off?


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[Assistant] So obviously... What are you talking about? Clayton Tune was the backup their whole year. Obviously they felt DTR was better if they gave up Josh Dobbs and Josh Dobbs is better than all those quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing, like right now, if you go down a list of teams, who's killing it? That's my point too, you gotta look at the context. I know, that's part of my argument too.


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[Assistant] And think about this, the Browns go out there and both race the Steelers. The Browns are 73, the Chiefs are 72.


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[Assistant] It's competitive. These games are going to be competitive. There's going to be a shootout and there's probably one or two of those games that you may lose that you thought you could win.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'm gonna say. Everything that they have is in front of them. And the thing that you can lean on with the Cleveland Browns is two different things. Special teams, you got a kicker, you got a punter.


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[Assistant] They've been playing lights out. You got the best defense in the league that has shown you that they can go on the road and beat good teams. That type of stuff carries and all you need is them. Think about it. All you gotta do is not turn the football over. That's the key. Punch is okay. If they can get DTR to think,


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[Assistant] If it ain't there, tuck it a run. If it ain't there, throw it in the stands, we got a defense and we gonna play field position. If you can get him to play smarter, not necessarily more productive, smarter, the Browns have a shot in every game.


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[Assistant] And I do too, and let's be clear. Lamar Jackson gave the way, gave him away to the Browns.


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[Assistant] Makes me even say what I'm saying. I wouldn't have said this a year ago. They play hard for Kevin Stefanski. And on top of that,


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[Assistant] These guys is fired up for the fact that


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[Assistant] They still don't get no credit. Like, they, they, people think they, they gonna go away. And that's what Kevin is telling them. People think you guys are just gonna go quietly into the night, finish the year off, and we always mean that Deshaun ain't here. But the problem is,


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[Assistant] They had that adversity last year. They, they played without Deshaun for a whole 11 games last year. They had their lumps. They had ups and downs.


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[Assistant] They play without Deshaun the most part of this year. Ups and downs, he's in the lineup or whatever the case may be. I said it weeks ago. I told them that they should have put him on IR at the time. And the reason, half the reason I said that is because you can go to your team and say, hey look, Deshaun ain't coming back. He can't save you.


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[Assistant] So I need each one of y'all to put that individual cape on and understand that it's the collection of the unit that's going to get this done. And you ask yourself a question.


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[Assistant] How many defensive players is crying saying, well it's me? I ain't heard from none of them yet.


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[Assistant] You won't. You ain't heard from nobody on the defensive end of the spectrum because they understand what their job is and they've shown you time and time again. Look at the plays with David and Joku running down a field and nobody can't tackle them. Look at them pushing the pile. All those things where other players not Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] That's why I said the Pittsburgh Steelers got a rude awakening. When they get in here, they gonna find a caged animal. Like, I've seen the Browns play at home where it's like, wow, these dudes won't even let them get a snap off.


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[Assistant] And so think about what that, when you start playing with that confidence.


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[Assistant] And you just beat Baltimore, you're not scared about Pittsburgh at home. And given the fact that you've had Chubb gone, your quarterback's gone, you're down to your third or fourth tackle, Jim Brown passed away during the first part of the year, the national media won't give you no credit for anything that you do, it's about the Rays and the Steelers, they're gonna get out there and it's gonna be different.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be different, I'm telling you. Browns will be 7 and 3. Book it after. Save this clip. We want book it. Save this clip. Book it. Book it. When you run that back next week on Monday, the Browns will be 7 and 3. Let's roll.


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[Assistant] Hey, I didn't see, look, I, I just, maybe I don't feel the same way. I just, like, I've been drinking Kool-Aid all year. And I remember just, I remember when the Bengals couldn't run the ballers, do nothing. I remember, I was there.


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[Assistant] Whoever was that quarterback, did they just outright get smoked?


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[Assistant] They just have it. Except when DTR was. Except that DTR gag. And now, vengeance is mine. Save DTR.


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[Assistant] Let me start the party off right. A revenge game for the, for the Steelers is for them to come in and get beat 35 to 3.


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[Assistant] That's the type of energy we talking about. Like, like we not gonna hit y'all dirty. We not gonna take your legs out. We not gonna do anything. But what we will do is put nice kindly hits.


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[Assistant] All over your boy, your quarterback Pickett. We gonna make sure Pickett gets nothing downfield and Najee Harris will, you know, he'll average 2.1 yards a carrier or something.


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[Assistant] A nice 35-3 game and get y'all boys out of here. Not with our first team quarterback.


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[Assistant] Not with our second string quarterback, but the rookie. DCR come give you that word. And then they say the Cleveland Browns only allowed 59 yards against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh came into a buzzsaw. They didn't ever know what hit them. That's, that's what type of revenge game we looking for. God. Not looking to injure somebody on


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[Assistant] It's scary at the same time. It's like, it's like you telling the girl like, hey, you, you always liked this girl. You say, hey, yo, you want to go out with me? She said, yeah, don't hesitate.


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[Assistant] You're kinda nervous, like, why'd she say yes so fast? But at the same time, he'd be like, oh, I'm excited. Now I gotta do it. Now I gotta, like, DTR brings a certain level of excitement. He's gonna try, he's, he's not, this is the problem, it's a gift and a curse. There's two or three times a game, he's gonna feel like, I can get that off.


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[Assistant] Him and a regular backup that made, he's gonna make some throws and plays that you didn't think he could? And you'd be like, wow, that was beautiful. And then there's gonna be some times, no, no, no, please don't do that.


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[Assistant] They will be visibly shaken. Like, I will be, listen, I don't know, I gotta take some days off.


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[Assistant] Oh, listen, first of all, the RPO game is in effect. I would think so. Full effect. Think about it.


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[Assistant] But that got kind of thrown out of the game because of him being injured. You don't want to expose him to unnecessary hits, right? So that was out of the game. So I think RPO is a huge part of it. The quarterback run game.


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[Assistant] Not necessarily him scrambling around, but quarterback draws, quarterback power plays, different things like that. And the thing that I saw on film going back to it, and the way that they started playing the Cleveland Browns,


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[Assistant] And we talked about it a couple of weeks ago, and I think Kevin Stefanski has learned it as quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] The Browns have, do a really good job of check releasing.


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[Assistant] So now you start to see David and Joku who are giving those tackles flippers. They're just coming out and blocking them. Nick Harris is coming out and putting helmets on people to slow down that path.


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[Assistant] But then once they give them the flipper, they're out in the flats. And now David and Joku is out there with guys dropping in the coverage.


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[Assistant] And he has a five, six, seven yard head start. And he's catching that ball and turning it up and they can't tackle him. And those plays were open. Those plays were open during the first part of the year. The quarterbacks just weren't acknowledging it. They weren't patient enough to get to it.


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[Assistant] Now those are almost serving as delayed screens now. And so now you'll see a totally different playing with DTR because you're going to start to see, they're going to run the ball from all different types of levels and it starts with the three guards.


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[Assistant] And they're releasing, they're helping their tackles with the tight ends. And I think what you'll see much more in this game.


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[Assistant] Is the Browns game is a much more developed run game since DTR played the first game with the Ravens. The Browns utilized the tight end a lot more and the Browns are finding ways, creative ways to take chunk plays and get Mario Cooper open. All we need is one or two for Cooper. That's what we're looking for.


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[Assistant] That's great with 69. The only way to me, the Pittsburgh wins this game is if, if, if high turnovers. It is Hive Smith and T.J. Watt dominate. And what I mean by that, strip sacks, tip balls. The way they beat us the first time.


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[Assistant] And so you think about it. You go back and look at it.


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[Assistant] Uh, and Tyvis, Coach Tyvis did a really good job explaining this.


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[Assistant] What Juan Thornhill does best out of anybody back there is, when you play in zero free man coverage, if anybody catches a slant or a dig or something with forward momentum, it's imperative that you get them on the ground.


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[Assistant] And Juan Thornhill takes a lot of great angles. He gets people on the ground and does not let what Rodney McLeod had happen with, with Odell Beckham Jr. catching the slant and going right to the house. So it's going to be tough. Like they got to, you know, it's give and take when you're playing pressure defense, but, uh, they're getting turnovers now, which, which is helping.


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[Assistant] This is Russia versus China and I'm looking for trench warfare. I need y'all to beat each other up. I need to be knuckles. Keep it clean. Keep it clean. But all, but I need y'all to just go at it. I need y'all to limp on it.


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[Assistant] I asked her, I said, she's going to a dance. That's cool. She was like, yeah, today's going to be her first day of wear makeup. And I said, whoa, hey, whoa. Uh, I said, how old is she? She's like 11 or 12.


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[Assistant] What is the statute of limitation in the age of wearing makeup in the DD household? Like I gotta figure this out. I don't know if she was out of pocket or not. Twelve?


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[Assistant] Didi, my mom tried to put me on punishment. I was 21 when I got Mayor's Pierce. She tried to be like, you ain't going nowhere.


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[Assistant] Didi, can, uhm, can the Browns make the playoffs with DTR starting quarterback?


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[Assistant] Not a lot of guys can pull that off, Bernie. That's how you do it well.


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[Assistant] of what we're doing in the budget. They just, I've just, I gotta let it go. The BKs, I don't care what they


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[Assistant] Uh, is yeaah, they'll say, oh, you'll be back better than, than ever. And, and they come back and tell you, it'll never be the same.


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[Assistant] Like you, you can get back to doing things, but you'll never, your knee will never be the same. Your elbow, your shoulder will never be. It's just about getting a degree back to where you were. Baseline. It's not getting better. It's just trying to decrease it from getting worse fast.


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[Assistant] I haven't heard that in a while. When you say...


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[Assistant] You know, three step can be tricky, right? Because if you, you getting pressure up the field, you're in some of the shotgun stuff, you're in five wide. Now you're looking at three seconds, two seconds in one read or two reads. You could get fooled. They can play, be playing Robert technique where they can jump in front of passes. But if you're running a football and you run play action,


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[Assistant] Now you get some of those linebackers to step up out of position, maybe in zone coverage. And those are easier throws because you're in space. And if it isn't there, you can continue to run on and just take a couple of yards, get out of bounds and do it all over.


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[Assistant] No, that's not going to happen because it's not, what do you win for, so you just win the money, you get like a trophy or something? There's probably going to be.


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[Assistant] Obviously, hopefully a lot of them get healthier and come back, but I think you gotta reassess it. You know, the one thing that stood out to me was the trap play, the runs.


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[Assistant] And it hasn't just been this game. They've been kind of leaky in the run game over the past couple of games. Obviously Jalen Warren had the big run. Baltimore ran the ball pretty decently. So that run game needs to be tweaked a little bit. Uhm. How do you do that?


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[Assistant] Well, how you do that is, you gotta, first of all, you gotta pray to God that Miles Geard is healthy. That's first of all. Secondly, you gotta do better on leveraging ball, on leveraging the football.


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[Assistant] Alright, so yeaah, so what you gotta do is these guys gotta do a better job. And it's not just the D line. It starts with the D line. Obviously, it's about gap integrity. These guys...


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[Assistant] Have to stay in their gaps. But when this ball hits the outside, because a lot of these plays are happening on the outside, particularly with the zone read, which they struggle with all season. But I'm not even gonna go there right now. Is there a reason they struggle with that?


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[Assistant] Well I watched some plays with McNuggets that I'ma break down a little bit later, you know. In a week. Yea, in a week.


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[Assistant] Russell Wilson, first of all, is just, he's smart. Different. Yea, he understands. Giving love to Russell Wilson? Yea, he understands personnel. He understands what was going on and he just made the right adjustments. So that's why he was successful with it.


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[Assistant] That thing right, when you see zone read, like I say, you have to have your responsibilities, if somebody has to take the dive, somebody has to be responsible for the quarterback. And the person that's responsible for the quarterback has to make sure that they're quick enough to handle the


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[Assistant] Sometimes it works, but a lot of the times when it doesn't, you leave that seam, you hit that sideline and it's gone. We gotta leverage that football, whether that's the linebackers, the nickels, or the corners. Everybody has to leverage the ball and send it back inside. If it gets outside, he's gone, cause there's nobody there. See that right there? It gets to the sideline, nobody's there.


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[Assistant] So you gotta do everything you can to keep that ball on the inside shoulder and send it back in. That's one of the main things that I see as a problem. What's amazing is nobody heard of Kyren Rowland before the season. No they didn't. I'm so glad I picked him up in fantasy. He's been amazing.


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[Assistant] So you don't want, you don't never want a player to be less aggressive, but the thing is, and jok was a perfect example, you know, he's one of those guys that


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[Assistant] He's so athletic that he goes under blocks. And I was the same way. When I was a young player, I would either foot fake the guy or go under and use my speed. It wasn't until I got older that I realized that using your hands is what gives you longevity in this career.


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[Assistant] Your arms is long. If you can get your arms extended off, you can push them and pull them to the side and get where you need to be. They call it two-gapping. You get there, you see where the guy's at, you throw him or what, you shed him to the side and then you go make the play.


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[Assistant] Maybe guys don't do that because in the linebacker position, you're dealing with 300 pound guys, so that's harder to do.


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[Assistant] But if you can't get that extension, you really gotta like drop your chest down and really get some extension and throw em off, you'll be much more successful in it. But right now, they, with being 200, 220 at linebacker going up against a 300 guy, I understand why they do what they do.


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[Assistant] I mean, but the thing is, you got the right player. I mean, J.O.K. is obviously, he's played unbelievably last game. You get Anthony Walker back, even Taki Taki's okay. You know, he can get things done. They just gotta leverage the football. Just leverage the ball. I don't know why y'all... Explain what that means.


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[Assistant] The crazy thing is, this is two years in a row that when Anthony Walker's not in there, there's a difference on defense.


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[Assistant] Typically in December by then, okay, so if you don't know, you get about 12 padded practices on a season. So if you go two, two padded practices a week,


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[Assistant] And trying to get your body revved up, you gotta do a great job of getting in them cold tanks and doing those massages and all of those things because you gotta be healthy for the game.


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[Assistant] The only thing that's hard is the mindset, getting the mindset right. Obviously if you practice tackling every single day in practice, by game day it's just second nature. You're gonna be better at it. Right. If you're not practicing like physically doing it.


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[Assistant] Then you lose that element. So what guys would do is you would, they literally make you get into a stance and you have to literally tag off and get out the way. So like tag and move. I hated it too, but it definitely worked for game day because you are still in that same mindset. You're doing everything but the contact.


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[Assistant] You're supposed to stop inside run, kinda like, and then you got the stop sign on the outside so it should all like kinda go together. But you have to push that.


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[Assistant] I think so too. Yeah, you take a beating down there. It's the death. Like, it's a slow death. Like, hey, listen. They gotta get eco.


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[Assistant] You have the one guy on the one side that's pretty free rank. He's like the pass rusher. And then on the opposite side you have like that run stopper guy. I just feel like that's the


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[Assistant] How many TFLs he got? Five? Who? Miles? No, Zedarius.


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[Assistant] If they bring six, they better, I don't know why it wouldn't though. You got all of these dudes that's got, with the JOK's coming along, Ogbode's, Miles.


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[Assistant] You know Travis, from an outside standpoint, I always was curious. You know, you're a Rams guy. When you look at the Cleveland Browns offense,


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[Assistant] Is there anything that really like scares you? What bothers you about the Browns offense?


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[Assistant] Travis, you know, at the, I think it was last season, there was like a bunch of people that was flirting retired, man. Aaron Donald, even Sean McVay.


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[Assistant] Travis, give us your game plan right now. If you were Sean McVay, how are you attacking the Browns' defense?


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[Assistant] Well, I told you, I listened to the, I listened to the post game cause I worked on the post game show and when, when he said it, you know, he was just like, he was like, I felt a pop in it and it was like, will you be able to go? He said,


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[Assistant] He said, well, you know how I am. I always want to be out there with my, with my guys. I don't want to do anything to hurt this team, but if I can go, I can go. They was like, well, are you going to play even if a doctor tells you not to? He said, well, I've heard that before and I still went out there and played.


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[Assistant] If you're going to use them, this would be the time to use them. Because Mary Kay was right when she was talking about the weather conditions.


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[Assistant] So, so let me add, if, if, just out of curiosity. The answer's no. Three o'clock.


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[Assistant] Three o'clock come around and Kevin Stefanski does his thing and they say Phil is the star. I'm going off on Stefanski and I love Stefanski.


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[Assistant] His last two games that he played healthy, it showed you that he's good. They won, he looked really good, and they won a really good game because of him and his performance.


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[Assistant] We know that this is a quarterback driven lead and we, the question is always, can you win a Super Bowl with that guy?


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[Assistant] And from his last two performances, I would say yes, you could win. And I just think that from a locker room standpoint, he just is something about Deshaun that gets everybody around him to buy in and they want to play and be like with him.


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[Assistant] I think you gotta have a quarterback in this. I, I can't just buy him out and then be left with Joe Flacco. Cause then, then you gotta, you're back at, you square one. Yeah, we back at Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Well, he's in concussion protocol right now.


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[Assistant] Well, the Browns haven't had a first round pick. Right! Well, Lee Roy, what school did a lot of, you know, those first round picks receive them? What school did they? So you know what? I was curious, what school did? I'ma tell you, I'ma tell you what school they went to.


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[Assistant] Leroy, how would you, you know, Bernie was here yesterday and he was explaining how y'all would handle a guy like Aaron Donald. How would you? Take his ass out, he said.


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[Assistant] Belichick screwed it up. Paul DiPodesta, you know, sent a text message to the sideline, you know, he saw something. Let's hope not. That's not true.


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[Assistant] Why'd you brought this up? Cause my boy Josh went off on a rant on this. Josh. Perry. He went on a rant on this on his show and they asked me about it and I said, you know, to be honest you sound like the old guy in the room when you say it.


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[Assistant] People get ready for games differently. So just because a guy like me, I wouldn't do that. That's not how I get ready for games. I don't necessarily mean that that's not how they, they won 11 games and they did that. They didn't win me games. But they won 11 games doing the same thing. I haven't seen Michigan do that. So I, but they still won 11 games.


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[Assistant] Urban says he lets you do what you do to get ready. He not gonna interrupt nobody from their pregame routine. If that's what you do.


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[Assistant] You better go out there and make sure you do well on the game. He's not, everybody, as a matter of fact, he was the one.


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[Assistant] Well I sit in the press box for all the home games, but not, see Jason sits like in the seat right in front of the glass. I sit back by the snacks.


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[Assistant] Picture. No, it's something about a radar underground or something about a zone or something like that.


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[Assistant] I couldn't have been going 86 because I was in traffic behind a semi truck.


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[Assistant] Which is what I told him to do. Listen, I understand that inflation is bad, cause I just went to the grocery store yesterday and bought a couple of things, it was $250 for that. So I'm already upset about that, but you need a do- if the police department need a donation, just holla at your boy.


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[Assistant] It's a minor concern because he was able to play this game with it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he did. And then on the, on like the game winning drive, he actually scrambled for like a, like a 12 yard run. 16. Or 16. So, he used it.


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[Assistant] Exactly, so that adrenaline pumping, I think he'll be able to get through it. Like I said, he's, he's gonna definitely be in that ice tub all week. It's not gonna feel good anyway, but I think it's not bad enough that he won't.


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[Assistant] And like I say, y'all, you gotta give credit where credit is due. Lon Thornhill, you definitely said that things is going to be different this year. But this is the part that gets me. It's been so many times this season where I was like, that is the most Browns thing. But for some odd reason, they over


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[Assistant] I think that this game, this game could really be like, it could shoot up the charts even more, depending on what happens in the Thursday night game.


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[Assistant] Shame on you. You're selfish. You don't think about the people that gotta do the Browns post game show after the show is over. Thank you. Thank you for keeping it at one o'clock. I greatly appreciate it. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Who? Number eight. That eight ball. You ain't see him in there? Haha! Didn't I tell you America? It was coming soon. Now it ain't no big breakout game.


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[Assistant] We are not getting those things crushed. Touching other people. This is the thing, it was a crack back. You can't even crack back. All you gotta do is just jump in the way. Just, it's like a pick in basketball now. He can't do a pick in basketball. He doesn't want to.


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[Assistant] One thing about me, whether good, bad, or indifferent, I'm a always tell it like it is. No matter what. And at the very least, he could have been neutral, he didn't have to give him flowers. The word, my choice of words might be different.


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[Assistant] You also gotta give credit to the guards. I mean, Teller and Botonio have been doing this. I mean, the right tackle, like Teller, he's been having a rotation at right tackle this season. And they've all been playing really well.


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[Assistant] The size of a defense is three things. It's tackling, leveraging, and eliminating explosive plays.


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[Assistant] To me, I think that, you know how last season everybody was on the Jamal Williams train because he led the NFL in touchdown? Right. Kareem Hunt doing the same thing Jamal Williams was doing last year, technically. Jamal Williams had the key.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, I need to ask you about my favorite Browns player because he left the game with injury. Denzel Ward, you have any update on him? Will he be fine for Sunday? And luckily it wasn't a concussion.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, uhm, after seeing these performances by Deshaun Watson, up, up until this point, how confident are you that he can actually lead the Browns to a Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, what was your favorite play from this past Sunday's game?


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[Assistant] I mean, there was a ton of them to pick from, but which one is the one that was like, you know what, there they go.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, you've been, you've been covering this team the whole year and you know, they went out and got Mike Ford for special teams purposes. I mean, I think he's a really good gunner and things like that, but he had to step in last game at corner where he had had a nice hit on Lamar. He had to pick. What can you tell us about that?


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[Assistant] Well I feel bad for JB because the worst thing has happened.


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[Assistant] Gee, I just took a peek in the chat. They all say, they're screaming trade Darius Garland.


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[Assistant] Kelly, what was it like going up against Tim Couch competing for the starting quarterback job?


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[Assistant] Looking at your Brown's career, the game is on the line, okay, and you had to have it with a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] He ain't leaving until we can get a Super Bowl in Cleveland, cause he couldn't get it in Detroit, so he wanted to bring it to a city that never had it. By the way, Detroit, Detroit Cleveland Browns Super Bowl is not crazy. No, no, no. Detroit and Cleveland Browns both in the postseason at the same time. That's crazy. I don't think it's ever happened.


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[Assistant] No, you know what, and Adam, that's such a good point. My ears were pierced when I was two months old, and I pierced my daughter's ears before she was a year old, and I know people who won't allow their daughters to have their ears pierced until they're 12.


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[Assistant] I can't say forced, but I don't think that that was a decision that happened in a vacuum. I just feel that this is one of those things that people right now want to look back.


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[Assistant] And it's kind of one of those things like, if you knew then what you know now, but how could you do that?


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[Assistant] That Kareem Hunt wasn't deserving or worthy of more money. The Browns had to consider what is already allocated to the running back room.


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[Assistant] But on this particular team where this amount of money was already allocated to Nick Chubb and the running back room, there just wasn't room to sort of have an outsized proportion go there. So when you have a $230 million quarterback who has already counted for X number of picks,


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[Assistant] 20th most important position on your team is your backup quarterback, so just pay it. But that's not how the Browns do business. The Browns have to sit here and think about what's already in the quarterback room and is it worth it to give up


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[Assistant] X number of high picks. Not necessarily money, but X number of high picks.


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[Assistant] Bad luck. Unless I guess maybe you want to sit here and say the Browns are known for bad luck, so you should always expect bad luck. But even this situation right here, I mean, can we talk about


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[Assistant] What sort of interest, if any? What sort of conversation, if any?


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[Assistant] In the room, in the quarterback room. So if Jonathan Gannon is saying, we have no plans to trade you,


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[Assistant] It might have been just like what happened with the Browns. Out of the blue, they get a phone call, the Vikings say we're desperate, can we have him?


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[Assistant] Until I actually know, I don't want to definitively say, oh, they missed the boat on that. That might have happened before they even thought that it was a possibility. Or explored it being a possibility.


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[Assistant] The Browns have a great, great, great championship caliber defense. This is a championship caliber defense. The missing piece that was sort of making me crazy that we all talked about a month ago was turn the ball over, get some turnovers, get some takeaways, score, make some splash plays also.


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[Assistant] That's huge. They're running the ball really, really well. No Nick Chubb, doesn't really matter. They're running the ball really well. You saw the way they ran the ball on the Ravens. Again, this is not like running the ball on the Cardinals. Running the ball on the Ravens is a major statement. So all you need, this is what I said yesterday.