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[Assistant] I have to say the offensive line. I thought the offensive line and the defensive line was just a little bit different, right? But you still got Batonio, you still got Teller, you still got Poaches, you still got Conklin, all those other guys, and they have depth. For me, if you ask me, who, who do you, who do you think will be more consistent?


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[Assistant] I would lean up just a little bit more to the offensive line rather than a cornerback position, but I would just give you some foreshadowing. Corners come in third for me.


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[Assistant] I'ma go, uh, this one was actually an easy one, uhm, just because of the lead dog in the room, and that's, running back room.


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[Assistant] Uh, running back room, uh, you, you look at, he's Nick Chubb. That's all you gotta understand. All you need to know is it's Chubb. So, if you got him...


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[Assistant] I think Jermone Ford will make a nice serviceable running back. He has a little burst. I like him. Go back and watch his tape at Cincinnati. He had a nice preseason as well. And there's another guy that I think is going to make the team, Demetri Felton.


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[Assistant] Who's gonna pay dividends? Because now you look at what Felton was doing before. Uhm, Felton could possibly


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[Assistant] Make the team just by being a receiving guy, right? So if you look between him and Kelly,


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[Assistant] Uh, who, who has played pretty well in the preseason and was given the opportunity. Uhm, he has more versatility.


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[Assistant] He can be a running back, he's on special teams, he's a gunner, he can return punts.


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[Assistant] Uh, he also can line up as a receiver. So I, I think the, and plus now more out of shotgun, I think really he can mimic some of the stuff that Elijah Moore has been doing when you, when you talk about, um, what they've been seeing in camp.


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[Assistant] Uh, and Zach Jackson talked about it. You know, guys moving around. He's in the backfield. He's lined up in a slot. He's doing lined up wide. So versatility is a thing that you look for in these players, and I think they get versatility from Demetrius Felton.


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[Assistant] But, you know, at the end of the day, the bell callers is Nick Chubb. He's the best running back in the league. I think it ain't even really close. And, and I look at the running game and a lot of people are going to be surprised this year. I think everybody is really excited about the passing game.


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[Assistant] But Nick Chubb is still going to be a huge part of the offense and he might even average more yards per carry based on the fact that they're spreading people out and you can't key on certain things. So I think Chubb, uh, has a huge year and I got the running backs coming up for it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, quarterback is the hardest position in the game, right? Yeaah. You know, it's the most difficult position in all of sports. And if you just say take Deshaun Watson out and you got Dobbs and whatever, DTR,


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[Assistant] It's a rap. Like, but if you took Nick Chubb out of the office, right, and you still had Jerome Ford, and you still had, uh, you know, Demetrius Felton,


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[Assistant] We've seen before what a Cleveland Browns can win with what?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. These guys, they'll plug right in and get their minutes, right, and get their money off. I think, you know, when you look at it from a running back position, it's easier to come in and contribute as a running back than it is a quarterback. And I saw Josh Jobs in Tennessee.


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[Assistant] And uh, he didn't, he wasn't a world beater in that game. He was perfectly serviceable.


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[Assistant] No, he got claimed off a practice squad, I think. He didn't get cut.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, I would say that. Uhm, I'd have them a little bit above, uhm, this next group of people that I'mma choose, so go ahead.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I, this was close for me. Uhm, I could, I could see where you went safety. Uhm, Juan Thornhill was an upgrade to me over John Johnson. Uhm, I think when you bring in guys like that, you really solidify what you want to do, and I don't think you have that many busted assignments. Uhm, with that being said, ah,


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[Assistant] Uhm, just because of this person who's the number one dude in the room.


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[Assistant] And here's the crazy part, this is oxymoron. I'm putting the receivers there.


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[Assistant] But I'm still the most apprehensive about the receiver. It's fair. At the same time, like, because I can look at it and say, okay, I got Amari Cooper right here. He had one of his best years he's ever had with a Jacobi Brissette. We feel like that's gonna get better.


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[Assistant] Donovan Peoples-Jones is coming off his best year, right? Uhm, you got Elijah Moore, who is a guy who everyone raves about at practice. Elijah Moore is killing the game. They're moving them all around. Uhm, and you got those, those three guys, which I think are very dependable. However, which still makes the receiving core a big question mark, is the rest of the dudes.


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[Assistant] Cedric Tillman, I don't even know what he is. He's a rookie, I can't count it. Marquis Goodwin, I don't even know who he's going to play this year. Shout out to him, hope he gets better.


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[Assistant] That's that same kid? We missed that. Uhm, and so, I don't know nothing about him. David Bell is, uh, David, let me say that stride, David Bell. David Bell is a, uh, is a wide receiver, uhm, but really in his heart of heart, he's a tight end. What?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he, but he can eat all the food he wants. He's still not gonna get bigger, but he's still a tight end. He has tight end mobility, tight end hands, tight end, uh, juke ability. He's just, he's just slow overall. Like, and I, I just told y'all he's not that good. Now we gon' see. He got opportunity to maybe be a possession guy, but the rest of the roster?


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[Assistant] I have no clue, but just because your top three are good, I would have to say I would go with the receivers.


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[Assistant] With that being said, they need one more, man. I just, when I go to sleep at night, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] The speed factor, when you look at Deshaun Watson when he was at it, it's best. We had Will Fuller, speed guy.


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[Assistant] But you need guys to run up underneath it. And I commend the Browns for trying to do that. They thought they had that. And Marquees good with it. He showed he could do it. And OTAs were catching a couple long passes from him.


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[Assistant] But now you have him and now you got, uh, Anthony Shores trying to come back and see if he can actually catch the football. But to me, when I go to sleep at night,


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[Assistant] The speed factor keeps me up because for this office to reach, I would say the pinnacle of what they are.


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[Assistant] In my mind, the office that's the most dangerous is the one that can threaten you at every level. I got a guy that can be going deep every play.


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[Assistant] I got a guy that is a route runner. I got that in Mark Cooper. I got a guy that is a, is a change of pace, quick in the open space, Elijah Moore. I got a running back that, that just give me six, a pop.


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[Assistant] I got an offensive line that could move God's hand past the bucket and I got Deshaun Watson. It's the one element. It's the one thing missing. It's like you taste that drink and you be like, listen, I want a mixed drink and you'd be at home making Harry Buffalo back in the day and you'd be like,


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked either. I would, I would actually advocate doing that. See what you got?


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[Assistant] See one last time if Schwartz can be that guy. See if you got another dude that happens to pop up somewhere. But if you get to that last preseason game and everybody's on a 93 man roster and then they cut them at once, look around the league and see who you can get.


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[Assistant] I think Jordan Ankins is a guy that is going to be able to make some plays. I think Harrison Bryant is a guy who is going to be a trade target.


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[Assistant] I think he's the guy that you, you, you package with a pick to go get another wide receiver. Smart. So I, I think just by default, he's a dude that, um, that people will like around the league and David and Joke who, who, and, and that's the thing that we ought to understand.


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[Assistant] They're expecting, one of the most, the biggest X factors in this, in this entire offense is this. Does David and Joku play like a top five tight end?


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[Assistant] And if he plays like a top 5 tight end.


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[Assistant] That opens up everything. That just, at that point.


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[Assistant] So, when it comes to Savansky, you just popped in my head when you talk about the playbook. When you look at other good teams, other good coordinators, uhm, with weapons, like doesn't it seem like those teams, like if you play for the Dolphins,


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[Assistant] You know two people getting the ball. That's all we throwing to. Because we, we gonna make sure we, we accent those guys. If you play Kansas City.


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[Assistant] You know Kelsey about to get the ball and that's what it is. Sometimes when you have a spreadernomics.com offense, these guys will do dink and dunk.


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[Assistant] I'ma throw the ball, spreading out, cause I'ma, here's Bell for two yards, here's, and Joku, uh, you know, and Mario Cooper catches it. That's, that's cute.


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[Assistant] But is there something that Cleveland Browns can go to that's the bread and butter and say, I got this guy and I'm about to wear you out with him. I see that all over the league.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would, I would go with, I would go with, I would go with, I would go with, uh, D-Tackles.


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[Assistant] I got de-tackled special teams linebackers.


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[Assistant] Well, ahem, I think you'll see it if the quarterback wants it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Patrick Mahomes could get any contract he want. Uhm, but it's not the fact that they won't give it to him, it's the fact that he wants to still have some money left over to, to, you know, make the roster around him better.


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[Assistant] So, you know, any of these quarterbacks, and this is what people don't get, any of these quarterbacks, Justin Herbert could have said, I want to guarantee, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, Joe Burrow could say I want a guarantee. Patrick Mahomes could say that. And just guess what? They would give it to him. For me, I think the question is, and when this deal happened, I asked myself, what are people going to shut up about that?


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[Assistant] That, that got a bunch of money and then they cut him in his prime. It's never happened. Quarterbacks don't get cut.


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[Assistant] They'll figure a way to trade you, but so when you look at the cap number, oh, it's fully guaranteed. Well, listen, bro, all of them are basically fully guaranteed as a quarterback because once you get to that standpoint of you making that much money, you're good and you don't change teams. The Browns paid him a premium.


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[Assistant] For someone opening up on the market. And a lot of times consumers don't understand this. If I'm in a pinch, and I need a car today, and I gotta go to work, does that mean


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[Assistant] I'ma take time to go through 95 car lots. No! I don't have time to be looking for the best bargain. Cause I'm in a pinch. So I may have to pay an extra.


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[Assistant] 2, 3%, 4% to get a car that I may not really love or I may not, but it's a necessity. Quarterback is a necessity. So when you look at 238, that number doesn't even really like matter. I think that's been a scapegoat of the people, one or two things, right?


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[Assistant] You either don't like the allegations he has, so you use 238. You think, you used to like Baker Mayfield, you kept rooting for him, you're still deep down a Baker bro, so you don't like the 238. And then the third one is, I don't even know if I like Deshaun Watson, I don't know if it's style of play is for me, all these different things. All these come into one.


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[Assistant] Now, now you can say, well I don't like the Browns or I don't like, uh, Deshaun Watson because he's rockin' a boat. No, you're just either a banker bro or you don't, you don't think you deserve the money or you don't like the allegations. At the end of the day, that's the big dude to do about the 238 because in the scheme of things, he's not even being paid higher than the rest of these dudes.


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[Assistant] That's why I always joke that y'all love to say capitalism, right? Y'all love to say free market. Y'all love to say no regulations. Y'all love that.


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[Assistant] That is, you stand on it. I don't want the government telling me what I could do. I don't want regulations. I, I don't want taxes. I wanna, I wanna be able to run my business and do what I want to. Okay, well, they running their business, do what they want to. The thing is, why you mad that they're getting all this money? Cause here's the thing. No one says this. You think they rich.


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[Assistant] Even really quickly, like, always remember this. We're big companies.


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[Assistant] Y'all gotta wake up a little bit. Like, when big companies fail and they're deemed too big to fail, the government takes your tax dollars and they bail them out.


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[Assistant] And then they take those profits from the bailout and tuck them in. So when the company does bad, they socialize the downside. But when the company does good, they privatize the revenue.


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[Assistant] So, you gon' pay for them with higher taxes and your tax dollars.


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[Assistant] And at the same time, they're going to keep all of the profits that they have if they're doing good and never distribute those in benefits, distributing higher wages, distributing a better medical coverage, PTO, none of that. They just take it, buy back their stocks and get $90 million bonuses. So here's the thing.


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[Assistant] Don't think you're doing these guys a favor because at the end of the day, we'll never probably see that level, but y'all gotta always think, look bro, this is, if this is football and they do it in real life, understand the way the economics really truly work.


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[Assistant] Let's just get down to it. I knew he was finna go there. Let's just get down to it because I've never seen, like see this is what I don't like about


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[Assistant] People sometimes when they, I mean, fans when they do this, like look, what are you basing your feelings on?


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[Assistant] See there's a lot of times because there's very few people in society that understand offensive line play. There are very few people who have ever been big.


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[Assistant] There's a very few people who even pay attention to what they do up front. It's just, hey, well, you know what, uhm, did you give up a penalty or a sack? And if you don't, they think you're good. But the stats bear something different. And if you watched all 22, Jedrick Wills consistently, if he gets beat, stands up, looks around in three seconds, with his visor on, looking around like, who did it?


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[Assistant] If that's your man, get your guy. Not only does he not play to the whistle,


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[Assistant] He is not a great run blocker, pass blocker, or overall a great. He does not have one. Now give you this. He was the 51st rated tackle last year.


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[Assistant] Everybody's talking about we can get rid of Nick Chubb because Chubb, he, he doesn't get, is it the old line or is it Nick Chubb? Well let me show you your run block grade. 50.3.


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[Assistant] Come on now, where's the middle of the road? I'm looking for it. Maybe that was a bad year, rookie year. Let's go to the next year. He upgraded. Whole five points. Sixty-six point one. Now, I don't know where you guys went. A sixty-six is a dean, right? In all grading, all schools. Wherever you're at. That's public, private. That's a dean.


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[Assistant] Oh, he came up, he was a 61.7 and run blocking. Amen. Listen, he moving up. Bill Callahan doing this, working with him. He's balling. Oh, 2022. You regressed.


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[Assistant] All these people around here, and this is, this pisses me off about y'all, because y'all sit up here and do low hanging fruit, and you talk about getting rid of, Nick Chubb gotta take a pay cut, cake player running back, why sure as hell can't pay a top 10 tackle for 62%? Cause you don't understand, just, listen, Jay-Z said it.


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[Assistant] Just cause you don't understand that he's garbage does not mean he's not garbage. So you're gonna give an extinction to a left tackle because of-


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[Assistant] He's middle of the road and we're going to get rid of a potential Hall of Famer and your best offensive player because you ain't got no money. Well, like I said before, if you want all the money, go tell Jed Wills to give that money back and we can keep rolling with Nick Chubb. I rest my case. Somebody tell me what's middle of the road.


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[Assistant] 61 ain't average. 61 ain't below average. 61 is atrocious.


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[Assistant] These dudes was born in the civil rights area. That's your grade. 64, 60. He's another guy. I thought Jack Conklin was finished. I thought he was done. Guess not.


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[Assistant] They give him an extension and I'm just, I'm confused with this. He's been hurt three years while he's been here.


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[Assistant] His grades have never been in the 70s why he's been here. Now I love to pick when he got here. I love them getting him from the Tennessee and I like what he can do when he's fully healthy.


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[Assistant] My thing is offensive linemen don't just get healthy overnight.


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[Assistant] Right? When you start getting injured, it's just you gonna miss some games. And it looks like he lost some bending his legs. He was already a lean athletic guy. He's standing upright a lot and he's getting injured. My thing is, if it comes down to Nick Chubb, once again,


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[Assistant] This is going to hurt them because they gave him an extension and this guy's getting 12, 13, 14 million dollars. And so yeaah, it looks good if it works, but if he gets hurt next year,


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[Assistant] What are we doing? Like, what are we doing at that position? And I feel like, uh, Dewan Jones can play at that position. I feel like Hubbard can play at that position. I feel like there's some guys that they got ready to go that they can play.


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[Assistant] That could be in that position. Now, this is a gamble. I think that they think that this, this is, he's going to be better than what they can find on the market. And maybe they're thinking, look, we know Judger Willis is trash. We know, we know his play has been trash the last three years and we, we not going to sign him. So we can't have two tackles.


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[Assistant] That we trying to try out that are young. We want some sort of continuity. So, okay, good. We'll see if it works out, but for me...


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[Assistant] And look at this, he's regressed three straight years. What he got here in 2020, 84.3, which ranked in the top ten in tackles at the right side.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my thing was about time. Uhm, uh, because, you know, sometimes when I'm talking to guardians, enthusiasts, uhm, and I'm talking to the die-hard guardians, you know, we got a bunch of them on our panel, Jay, Jason Lloyd, Bull, you know,


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[Assistant] It's frustrating for some people like the, the, just the common knowledger, right? Sometimes we like, well look.


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[Assistant] Y'all love the prospects. Y'all's prospect, prospect, prospect. You can rattle them all off. Baseball of America, right? You know the rankings, know all the names. But then we never see these guys.


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[Assistant] You love him so much that you don't play him. And then you have to give him away for free. I don't get it.


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[Assistant] Then you got guys who, like Ahmed Rosario, who's a guy who is not a highly touted prospect. He's a guy who's a middle of the road shortstop. He's a converted shortstop.


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[Assistant] And, you know, he's serviceable, but he's not at an elite position like SureStop.


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[Assistant] He's not gonna be having a tremendous glove. He doesn't have a crazy bat or stick. He's not really a guy that's gonna have too much power. So he's a medium-sized guy. No one goes to BW3's and orders medium-sized. It's either mild or hot.


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[Assistant] No. Listen, I think they're buyers and sellers. Like, I think they're just both. Like, to me, I think they believe that the best people in their roster are gonna be their younger guys. At this point, if you ask me, would I make another move? No. What I would do is I would play my young guys.


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[Assistant] And if I play my young guys, it's an added bonus and more experience to the young guys that I could go into next year. Think about how good you feel about Gavin Williams and Bobby and Allen. If, if by the way, they make a playoff series and they get to start in a playoff series, right? Think about what now they may put them more on ice. I wouldn't do it.


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[Assistant] But just think about what you can do with that. You can build off that and continue to move. For me,


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[Assistant] I'm going to see the young dudes because I don't believe there's anybody on the market that if they trade for, it's going to make a huge difference. They have concrete organizational problems. Like what I mean by that is,


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[Assistant] You don't have power at the power positions. You don't have superstar. You shortstop.


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[Assistant] Give me, listen, we've been hearing these Rokeos and Nokios and Valeris or Valera with Valerian, that's a dragon. Like, we don't, I just, the prospect game irks me, McNuggets. He does, bro, because we've been, you know, I, we've been hearing about these same people for decades.


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[Assistant] Everybody, oh, there'll be two years before they get up here. We heard that about all three of these guys.


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[Assistant] Alan came up, oh, he's, he's, he's raw. He doesn't have the stuff Bobby has. We think, no, he's right up here. Eh, eh, Bobby came. I was, listen, we was, we were screaming for him.


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[Assistant] Ah, Gavin Williams is better, he might make it up before Bobby. Guess what, Bobby came up here, y'all Gavin Williams is here. Nah bro, like these dudes, they gotta, see the guardians are starting to understand. They on us a little bit.


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[Assistant] Like they, they, we, we on to them. Like we, we, y'all want us to pay attention to y'all, now we paying attention to y'all.


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[Assistant] Like, we be on them about these prospects, and guess what? If they come out and ball out with a small sample size, that's what you can get for them if you need to trade them. It's going to bring the value up. So, I'm looking at these young dudes. I want to see two, three of them dudes. I need to see two or three.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's dope. We can put that up on the set. That'll be awesome. Yeah, that, that, like, if we, and then I think it's like, you get 25, and then, I think the one, the biggest one is the million one, which is, uh, That's gold.


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[Assistant] I tell people all the time I'm in the barber shop, bro. Like.


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[Assistant] The only time I'm gonna get mad at somebody is like if you don't do the research and you just repeating what other people say. Like if we disagree on some stuff that you brought up and your numbers say one thing and I'm like, well, I like these set of numbers and we debate, that's all good. We can have a sparring conversation. That's the best part of our sports talk.


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[Assistant] That's what I got it in for, but I just don't like when people just be like, yeah, I'm going to just say the old stuff that you've heard thousands of times. And that even comes to me. I love when my people say, Gee Bush, you out of line.


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[Assistant] I love when you're supposed to be trippin'. I'm like, I'll come back and be like, yea I was trippin' dawg.


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[Assistant] To them, they like, aww, you just, you just proved you little brother. So they put, they put-


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[Assistant] It's a lot, so why you think Dre Mongrim runs around bullies people, right? Like the fact that Dre Mongrim didn't worry about no repercussions.


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[Assistant] Like you punched that dude, you punched a teammate in the mouth, bro. You just knocked him smooth out. You, you, you, you put him to sleep. And then...


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[Assistant] Got the nerd to talk about, I'm a team leader. You know what I did? I'm not a tough guy, but I catch him in the mall with his wife and kids.


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[Assistant] It was done. See, see Kurt said it, like that, I can't lie, that messed us up a little bit. And so when you look at the Cavs and they rate 10th, they look at the roster and they say, okay, it's a hostile environment. Uh, the refs ain't giving you no calls. You need to stop in a score.


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[Assistant] And it's tight and it's in the fourth quarter. They don't respect nobody.


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[Assistant] They say, is Jared Allen gonna get the rebound? I would say no. Is Darius Garland gonna be able to finish under the basket? He slide a frame, or they gonna take the ball from him? They probably say yes. Do you got, is Karris Levert hitting that shot? Probably not.


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell, he hasn't shown me nothing. Every time he play Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brunson hit his shots, he don't hit his. So guess what?


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[Assistant] I gotta see it. And that's why I was telling these dudes, and this is, I hate to go here. See, when you, I played ball.


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[Assistant] I'm bout to get these buckets off. Like I ain't scared to shoot, I ain't scared to pull up, and I ain't scared to tell you I just hit that shot in your face.


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[Assistant] The Cavs need b- the Cavs need different types of people on their roster because that good guy role, that citizenship, that- that- that- that merit role, merit badge, Boy Scout stuff, that don't be working in the playoffs, bro. That don't work. I like your Afro, but- but that ain't gon- you need to play like Black Power. You need to be one of the Black Panthers. I need you.


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[Assistant] I don't believe him, he need more people.


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[Assistant] Give me, uh, listen, the way I'm, man, I ain't gonna hold you, man. I got my man for 4,800 yards and 50 touchdowns, you know what it is. Give me Watson, then I'ma take, then I'ma take, uh, Jalen Hurts, then Lamar Jackson, stop playing with me, bro.


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[Assistant] He might throw for four on the bangles. I'm just waiting for it. Cause I'm, I told you, I'm ready to be petty. I'm ready to be petty. Like don't follow me on Twitter. Do not come in here. I'mma wear a Cincinnati bangles helmet and Photoshop sticker, phone finger, and I'll be right next to boy.


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[Assistant] And if they got the peanut butter Twix, they might go over the Reese's. Now I gotta say more, the Reese's Twix M&M's. I got a Reese's M&M's Twix.


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[Assistant] All y'all old cats at the house right now are on a vacation?


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[Assistant] Baseball's not at the top. It's just not. Uh, y'all can tell me about the pitch clock all you want. And I love baseball. I played it since I was six years old. And some arguably would say that was my best sport and I should have kept playing. But at the end of the day, nobody, nobody who is going to rule the world in the next 40 years believes you guys.


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[Assistant] Because there's a lot of people that want to be fake Steelers. I don't even wear those colors. I don't like Wiz Khalifa's black and yellow. I don't like, I don't even play with Pittsburgh Steelers or Madden. Never. Have never touched them on the sticks. They don't exist. So I don't, Pittsburgh's one.


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[Assistant] I don't like the Ravens either. I really don't like the fact that they just left Cleveland and got a Super Bowl and they think they cool. I don't like them. I don't like their coach Hardball. And I don't like when people come on trying to praise them. We're gonna, we're not, we're not gonna do. I'm gonna get them right together. Hey Dede, where you at? Hey Dede, we not talking about Hardball.


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[Assistant] I would, see Saturday after, Saturday after my radio show, that's when the weekend starts for me. So like, if I'm Sunday, I can go back home and watch some of the college football games, give me an SEC game.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? First the Big Ten, then I'm gonna catch me the SEC game, then I'm gonna go, I'm gonna switch over to five, and then I'm gonna watch, uh, I'm gonna watch. So that's a good day for me. And then that day, since I work all the time, I try to stay up as long as possible. So I'm gonna go with that.


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[Assistant] I told you about people named Bob and Bill. I told you about that. They can't be the top of the game. Shaq is easy. Go back and watch Shaq. I was in the time machine on YouTube about three weeks ago and


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[Assistant] He was just, he was doing stuff that was just disrespectful. Tearing down your whole infrastructure.


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[Assistant] I'm not just gonna die on my own private jet, like, that's just me and a pilot and a couple people. I need to be like, well, I went.


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[Assistant] The whole 747 was there too, like everybody. It was the lady back in the back with the gay. So, you know, it was meant to be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, just to put my closing thoughts on it, you know, I'm a dad as well and everybody knows, you know, my, my daughter wants to pursue


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[Assistant] You know, being a surgeon, a cardiac surgeon, I don't know the proper terminology, so forgive me, but.


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[Assistant] You know, my father passed away from a heart attack and unfortunately, I, I have...


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[Assistant] All you can do is just take care of yourself the best way that you can, but sometimes even when you take care of yourself and you're young and healthy, things happen. And uhm, all you can do is just live every day to your fullest and just try to put your best foot forward because you just really never know. Anything can happen to anybody at any given time.


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[Assistant] Like Jason alluded to, you know, these people are still human beings. You all hear me speak to it all the time. You know, they're humans, just like you and I. So definitely prayers up to the entire James family.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as we move forward, Mike, we are going to debut something right now.


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[Assistant] In honor of Jim Brown, but to also count down to the Cleveland Browns season. Talk about it.


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[Assistant] All right, before we move on to our Donovan Mitchell conversation, we got breaking news this morning, more breaking news this morning. Uh, Boston Celtics guard, Jalen Brown. This is insane. Agreed to a five year, $304 million extension. The richest contract ever signed in the NBA thoughts. I gave them.


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[Assistant] I thought that was a great segment, man. Maybe we can get more into that tomorrow night behind the glass. I want to take this time to thank everybody who's been supporting me, Mike and Anthony on our new podcast behind the glass that you can see once a week. Uh, we come bring you a one hour power hour of.


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[Assistant] You know, some of the hot topics going on. Last week we had about 165 people that maintained throughout the show.


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[Assistant] I think we did what? 3.8 thousand views. Oh sorry, 5.2. Sorry about that. So continue to support it as this podcast grows. We have a lot of fun doing it. It's real laid back and we actually take you behind a glass with some


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[Assistant] Personal conversations and things like that, so I think it's pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Speaking of Directors, uh, not Director Steve, EP Steve, sorry about that. He asked about what time. So we're going live, what, 7 15 tomorrow?


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[Assistant] 7.15 tomorrow. Alright, so as we move on, you know, it's been a lot of...


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[Assistant] Back and forth discussion about, you know, will the Cleveland Guardians trade Shane Bieber?


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[Assistant] And we know that won't be the case. In fact, Shane Bieber is heading to the 60 day, uh, injured list. And I think what September is the earliest he can pitch again. So I'm not going to phrase it like I phrased it in the pre-show meeting, but where the hell do the Cleveland guardians go from here? Jason, you want to start? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Alright, so to the point of everything you said, cause I really agree with it, uh, I was gonna make this point yesterday and I didn't check the numbers after the game. Jason, correct me if I'm wrong, but Quan was something like,


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[Assistant] 15 for 39 with two home runs and only one strike out.


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[Assistant] Uh, after the All-Star break, so clearly his bat is waking up and I think that you can afford to have some more, you know, bats come to life and maybe we'd be okay. You know, we're four games now behind the Minnesota Twins. It seems like they're getting hot.


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[Assistant] And yet we couldn't even beat the damn Royals yesterday. So outside of the bats waking up, if we're going to stand packed, is there anything that we can do to try to like counteract the injuries and the amount of injuries we had to the starting pitcher?


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[Assistant] To where we are not pitching eight guys out of the bullpen every game.


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[Assistant] Well, new information was presented to me late last night, so I had to make an executive decision to change that rundown up. But I'm listening to you all's conversation and I don't know if I say I can agree with the fact that they made a mistake. I just didn't, I just think it's a situation to where it didn't work out. I think every move that they made in the off season was the right move.


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[Assistant] You attempted to add power to the, to the lineup, right? You attempted to, you know, add depth wherever you needed to add depth.


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[Assistant] And I look at it like, you know, we talk about guys who didn't pan out that you signed, but what about guys like Oscar Gonzalez? I remember me and you used to have the conversation about him and Will Brennan, right? Or Gabriel Ayres, a guy that I've learned so much about before the season started from you all. These are just an example of guys that I think they were banking on taking the next step and they just didn't do it. And I, I believe just from a casual standpoint that Chris Antonetti always has a plan.


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[Assistant] And because things have worked out the way that they have more often than not.


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[Assistant] Alright, so while we're waiting on Ross Tucker to join us, this is a good time to let our fans out there know, hey man, go subscribe to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show if you have not done so already.


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[Assistant] Uh, hit the little bell so you can get the notifications of everything we got going on. Like the latest ultimate Cleveland sports show episode, like behind the glass podcast, like this fall, the Cleveland Browns post game shows. Uh, make sure that you, uh, sign up for overtime as well. We've got a pretty special overtime for you today. And also.


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[Assistant] Our PCC poll questions is on our community tab, community tab today, sorry. We got two different questions. The first one.


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[Assistant] Andrew Berry believes the Browns have a superstar running back Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] Is Nick Chubb the exception to the new rule of not paying running backs? The second question. Jason, chill out, man.


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[Assistant] Uh, the second question is what we already talked about. NBA Insider, uh, says he sees no chance that Donovan Mitchell will sign a long-term extension with the Cleveland Capillaries. Do you agree? So get over there and Bodo knows we'll give you the results, the PCC Air Force results at the end of this show. So make sure you are looking out for that.


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[Assistant] So again, as we wait for, uh, Ross, Ross Tucker to get here, he's not in yet, uhm, we could talk some football. Something that I had in a rundown that I took out. I saw Jeremiah Owosokoromoas, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, I've been working on that. If I gotta say, I was hoping that, you know, I have to say his name for many seasons to come. So, but he said that he feels free.


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[Assistant] And feels like he can breathe in a Jim Schwartz new scheme.


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[Assistant] And you know, me and you talked about it, Mike. It seems like every time we hear a player speak about the difference between last year and this year, it's that little nugget that seems like a shot at Joe Woods. So.


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[Assistant] Is this like Jeremiah Owosu Koromo's like breakout season? Gee?


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[Assistant] Ross, what's up man? I'm a huge fan of yours. I just got a question.


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[Assistant] Alright, so as we move forward, man, we talked about this a lot in, uh, a lot of the pre-show discussions. Jimmy has, Jimmy and D has spoken to the media yesterday, uh, a lot of insightful things. It was three things that really stood out to me. We're going to try to talk about those for a little bit, but the very first one being,


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[Assistant] Which me and Jason talked about, I paid attention to the code words, you know. I don't think a renovation is coming. I think the Browns won a brand new stadium.


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[Assistant] They would love to be on the lakefront. One thing he did for sure is the Cuban Browns will always remain in Northeast Ohio, but that doesn't necessarily mean downtown Cleveland. Thoughts?


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[Assistant] Yo, that was something that Dee Haslam alluded to and she, like, I watched a press conference and she put emphasis on that. You know, she talked about that, that bridge that was proposed, that land bridge, and she said that it was necessary for that to get done.


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[Assistant] Because she believed that the Cleveland lakefront needed to be brought to life. It does. And when you look at the major cities of the major cities that have a great lake.


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[Assistant] You know, Cleveland is probably at the bottom as far as the appeal of it all.


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[Assistant] You know, and I'm just thinking of somebody who stays on the East side, who travels that 90 East and West and that route to like, man, that's, that's, it's a lot of money that the city was going to have to forfeit to, you know,


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[Assistant] Building a stadium and I don't really, I mean building a land bridge and I really don't know the politics about.


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[Assistant] All of that, but I guess when I heard the press conference, I'm with you. My number one option would be to brand a new stadium downtown, but I think hearing him use, you know, we'll always be in Northeast Ohio, it swung me to where Jason is, uh, not having that expectation.


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[Assistant] So basically the question was, is it a now or never season for the Browns? And he erred on the side of caution. You know, he said that was a dangerous line to toe because of how competitive the NFL is and the AFC North.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but he did say he was excited about this season. So I guess my impact question to you all is, do you believe him? Do you believe that this is not?


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[Assistant] Alright, so this was the great talking point number two of this topic, but Jason, I have this overconfidence that it won't get to that. I've said it on this show, I think last week, two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] You know, this is a great conversation, but it's not going to come down to that. I think that they have learned from their mistakes. I think that the first three years for him, Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry,


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[Assistant] You know, they've learned a lot. It's been a lot of trial and error. I think they both have grown from their mistakes. I think the team and the organization overall has come a long way since Kevin Stefanski took over as head coach. And I think this is the year that it's all going to be put together. And I said it then, I'll say it now.


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[Assistant] The Browns have the potential to go play in the AFC Championship.


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[Assistant] This year, and when I look at the teams in the AFC, I don't believe that there are quote unquote many teams that are better than the Browns. So speaking of the Browns, one of the things that was another thing that was interesting to me was, uh, the Haslunds talked about Deshaun Watson's personal growth. They talked about him emerging as a leader of this team.


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[Assistant] And that they were proud of the man that he was becoming and the athlete that he was becoming. So it raised the thought in my head. Two questions. One.


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[Assistant] Is Deshawn Watson the undisputed leader of the Cleveland Browns now? And then two, is he a team captain this year?


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[Assistant] Yeah, to me, uh, it was, it was as well. You know, I'm a huge fan of Donovan Mitchell. I hope that the Cavaliers do what they have to do this year and this season that they have this year, you know, will kind of convince him to, you know, maybe he can have some long-term success here.


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[Assistant] Andrew Berry believes the Browns have a superstar at running back in Nick Chubb. Is Nick Chubb the exception to the rule of not paying running backs? I know Jason said no. Uh, judging by these results, this is a lot of homers like me.


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[Assistant] We got one minute before the show ends. Man, we got a very cool overtime for you all the day. It's a real segment.


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[Assistant] Uh, I went on FanDuel and I got 11 current props for the Cleveland Browns season. And I wanted to get McNuggets, G. Bush, and Jason Lloyd all on record on what they believe the 2023 Browns will look like. So if you were, uh, a part of Overtime, join us. If not, hurry up and sign up real quick.


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[Assistant] Something that saves lives. A means of justice. Now there's a pretty mean.


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[Assistant] We've both heard enough speeches about higher causes by now.


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[Assistant] Prayers up to Marquis. We had him on the show last weekend. Yea, such a good guy, man. It's scary. He was pumped to go.


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[Assistant] No, January was my first time there. I, uh, eternally grateful to anyone who, like, made it happen. I was, I was...


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[Assistant] I was in heaven. I was like, this is genuinely insane. Like, everyone tries to act fancy about it. I see people tweeting all the time like, oh, nobody cares about the Oscars. Who cares? Who cares? I don't care about them. Man, I don't care. And then it's like, Helen Mirren? Was that Helen Mirren?


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[Assistant] People try and act cool all they want, man. It's like, no matter who you are around the world, you watch movies. You know what I mean? Like movies that will make you happy, movies that will make you sad, these people, you see them as part of your life, you've grown up with them, then when you see them in person, it's, it's, it's a magical experience. It genuinely is.


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[Assistant] Like, the event was amazing, and then there's like all these after-parties that come afterwards, and I didn't know about these things. So it's like, there's the main event, and then there's like the first after-party, and then there'll be like the next after-party. It's like a, like, it's called the Vanity Fair after-party.


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[Assistant] And it's super, super like, like exclusive. And then you go there. And so we get there. And this is also where you see like levels of fame and stuff, which I really love.


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[Assistant] Because, like, we're all standing in line. Everyone there has achieved something in some way, you know what I mean? So I'm standing there, it's myself, it's Terry Crews, you know what I mean? It's like, you're standing in the line with people, people know, you know what I mean? It's Keegan-Michael Key, there he is, it's like, yeah, we've done stuff, you know us. And then we're moving forward, and then they stop us, they're like, please move aside! Jennifer Lopez is coming through!


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[Assistant] And, and JLo walks in, and she goes and she stands, and this was the funniest thing, because there's all these photographers taking pictures, right? And they're like taking pictures of us while we're standing there, and then when JLo comes, it's almost like the photographers wish they could untake our pictures.


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[Assistant] And everyone is just like, she looks stunning. Everyone, everyone just wanted a picture of her. Like no one, we didn't exist anymore as people.


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[Assistant] In my opinion, probably the best after party of the night is the Jay Z Beyonce after party.


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[Assistant] And, like, everyone's just having fun. But again, it's a little weird, because, like, if you're not used to it, there are moments when you go, like, this is surreal.


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[Assistant] Alright, cause like one moment, I'm on the dance floor. I'm dancing, I'm like, dancing, dance, cause DJ Black Coffee was there, South African DJ, amazing, and he's on, and so I'm dancing, I'm like, yeaah, South African, South Africans.


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[Assistant] This is bull- like the rest of us is like making our bodies move and Usher's dancing.


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[Assistant] And speaking of, like, Beyonce and Jay, like, just sweetest, nicest people ever. You know, this was the weirdest moment of my night and maybe my life. I will see where I categorize it. Was, I'm on the dance floor.


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[Assistant] Everyone's having a good time, and then Beyonce starts walking in my direction. So I'm like, oh, I should move. Right? Because it's Beyonce. Where she is going is not to me. So I'm like...


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[Assistant] I don't wanna be involved in this. So, she like walks towards me, so I like turn to move out of the way, but it turns out she was coming to say hi. She says hi to everybody, like just like, like a nice hi. You think she'd be like sitting in a box like waving? No!


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[Assistant] Browns did introduce the new white helmets, but seven other teams have debuted or are going to debut new uniforms, including two that will be debuted against the Browns this year. Both the Colts and the Seahawks will be debuting their new jerseys against Cleveland. So we're going to rank of the eight


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[Assistant] What are our favorites? And I'm telling you, I don't like them all. I have some serious qualms with at least two of them.


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[Assistant] Wait, so you're gonna be in New Jersey, Jason's gonna be in New Jersey, and I'm not? What the hell?


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[Assistant] What's up guys? Jay, you have not been here the last couple of days. Right. I'm going to do a little infomercial for the people and you at the same time. Wonderful. Okay. So we are going to start in the very near future, not only streaming on YouTube, but streaming on something called the fast channel. What's that?


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[Assistant] It's essentially a Roku channel that's gonna have 24-7 locked on content which we're in the locked on brand. Nice. Which means a couple times during each show you're gonna see a new transition and I'll play it for you in a sec, Jay. Okay.


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[Assistant] Okay. I'm gonna play it and I'll play it in one sec so you can see it. There's an in transition and an out transition. Let's take a look. On YouTube it won't affect anything, but on the stream that's when they entered the commercial breaks. So are you ready for the first ever look at the fast transition in? Then I'm gonna talk for five seconds and we'll take out. Yeah, let's do it. So when you see this, that means please be quiet.


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[Assistant] So essentially it's cutting me out. So I'll talk through those, but it's going to cut me out on the actual stream. On the restream. So you do, it's a whole thing.


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[Assistant] So anything that we can tell YouTube that we can't tell the other stream, it cuts out. So just let me do my talk between that. It doesn't affect you.


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[Assistant] So this is our way of streaming to two audiences at once and anything that says between those two transitions does not go on the other one. So when you jump in with some amazing fact or tidbit, I want the people everywhere to hear that, which is why when you see those, just let me get my little thing in and then we'll move on.


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[Assistant] So, just so you guys know, Jay, if you see that, that's your cue, just give me 10 seconds, do my little read and then we'll, uh, we'll move on. So with that,


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[Assistant] I have one guy too. Name him. Well, you say first, I think we're on the same line.


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[Assistant] No. Uh, this most recent year, he was 86%. Was he really? Wow. 37 of 43, but he missed 360 yarders, so. The point is, he's always a victim of his own success.


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[Assistant] I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but to me, the number one guy-


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[Assistant] It's a different linebacker. It's J.O.K. Yeah, he mentioned J.O.K.


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[Assistant] As one of the guys, as one of the guys we mentioned could have been, but not one of us talked about. To me, JOK is the answer. And you guys are all right in your own different ways, but we need to know two things about JOK. One.


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[Assistant] How does Jim Schwartz plan, well, I guess three. Is he a linebacker? B, if he is, how does Jim Schwartz plan to unleash him? And then three, and we're not going to learn this in training camp, but can the dude stay healthy?


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[Assistant] Uh, fun fact from Steve Becker here, but the last time the Browns held training camp outside of Berea was 1991 when they held it at Lakeland Community College. And with that, let's get to our next topic here.


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[Assistant] He's caught up in quarterback. Earlier this week, the Browns announced deadly wearing white helmets for three games in the upcoming season, which inspired a list. There are eight teams next year that are debuting new alternate jerseys and or helmets. Eight. Is that, is that?


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[Assistant] Let's start with the Indianapolis Colts, who will be wearing these hideous jerseys that you can take tag board against the Browns. This looks like A, the Duke blue devils, B, your generic crater uniform in Madden, and C, like absolute dog shit. It's a great jersey.


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[Assistant] The next one, this is gonna be a little controversial because I know a lot of people like this and typically black and red is one of my favorite color combos, but I don't like the new red alternate helmets the Falcons are rolling out next year. I know it's old school.


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[Assistant] Uh, the next one, this hasn't been released yet. So this is the concept.


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[Assistant] It's leaked. I'm not sure if it's official. If it is, this will make my top 5. I'll have to readjust. But because it's not officially out yet, this is just a leak. It's not confirmed. I couldn't put it on there, but the Titans will be wearing their old Houston Oilers, baby blue.


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[Assistant] If this was officially, officially released, it would be in my top 5 because it is just leaked and not officially confirmed. I did not want to put it in the top 5 to then burn me. But this is a great combo.


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[Assistant] It's in my top five hands down. Just because it's not officially official. The last official one I don't like.


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[Assistant] Well, this is just the guys, the ones I didn't like. This wasn't in order. So what's your ultimate five? So here's what we get to- Are these in order or no? No, no, no. Now we get to the top five. Okay, so you're starting with number five. Now it's the top five in order. Okay. Number five!


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[Assistant] The all green tops. Steve, you can take $2.93 full here whenever you get that credit ready.


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[Assistant] Alright, number four. The Vikings are going old school again, and this to me is the epitome of a clean jersey. I like the purple and gold, the new shoulder stripes, the outline of the white in the gold. It's bold. To me this is as clean as it gets.


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[Assistant] The Seattle Seahawks, 1990 throwbacks. They have the silver helmets they're wearing with this. The turquoise color with a little bit of green teal on the edges. We need the shoulder pads. Yea, I'd like to see the helmets. We can find a video, a picture with the helmet. Give me one sec.


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[Assistant] Number two. Wow. I think these are really nice clean uniforms. I think they're gonna pop under the night sky. I am a big, big fan. To your guys point, would've loved to see Siaki Ika.


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[Assistant] Debuting these uniforms instead of David and Joku, but I love the Browns uniforms. I really do, but number one, and we'll get to it in one sec. That looks like a stormtrooper. It does. It looks sweet. It looks sick. It's a great jersey.


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[Assistant] The oilers would be up there, the old school oilers. But this to me...


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[Assistant] The Tampa Bay creamsicles, which are coming back. I know some people don't like these. I think these are absolutely gorgeous uniforms. I really do. Between the jersey, the helmet with the creamsicle stripe on the head.


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[Assistant] Down to the matching stripe on the pants, the white pants. It plays off each other perfectly. They play in Tampa Bay. They play mostly day games. It doesn't look as good at night as it does in the day. This is, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] It is time for the worst teammates draft. It's a great idea, Mike. I, so this all started, James Harden put out a tweet yesterday and Steve, you have tag board. I'll pull it up here in one sec.


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[Assistant] I think it means that at the moment, Darryl Morey's made it very clear he's not going to trade James Harden unless there's a return on investment that's equal.


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[Assistant] At the moment, there's nothing out there that's being offered that's returned on investment equal.


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[Assistant] And Maury's I think perfectly comfortable dragging this out into the season, just like you did with Ben Simmons two years ago. Right. And Harden's like, ah, I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here. So let's up the ante. But you gotta remember with all these things, it is the middle of July. They don't start till October. There's plenty of time.


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[Assistant] I don't, I wouldn't buy that for James Harden. I would buy that for other people but not James Harden.


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[Assistant] Any sport. Any sport you want. The worst teammates. And before the show, we had Ian, our intern.


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[Assistant] J you're second, production team is third, and then bull is fourth, and then it goes in reverse on the way back. And you can determine whatever you want as worst teammate. And you just explain the pick when you take it? Explain the pick, we'll talk about it, but I think it's going to be a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] I can't believe that he's gone, which means, Anthony, we're looking at our board, I think we have to go to here. I think we have to go to, we're in agreement.


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[Assistant] Alright, so for our second pick, the production team is shocked that this athlete fell this far. How about Tanya Harding?


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[Assistant] They have really nice jobs. That's a good pick, Jay. I mean, good pick. Jay, you're up.


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[Assistant] So Jay went with the receiver and Tio was on our list, but he was the number two receiver on our list. He was not, in our opinion, the worst teammate receiver in the NFL in that honor.


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[Assistant] I don't want to make that assumption, but it would not shock me, but he is another.


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[Assistant] Another elite talent and another terrible teammate. Antonio Brown was our number one choice and to get him in the third round, I think it's a good choice.


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[Assistant] Boa, if you take our- he's number seven on our list. If you take number seven on our list, I'll be livid.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we're down, we're down to two. And we really can't decide here. I know Ian's on one side, Anthony's on the other side.


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[Assistant] Yeah, into retirement, and he used some very inappropriate language, uh, in that incognito, wherever he's been, has been a guy...


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[Assistant] A guy who had very few friends in the locker room, and at the end of the day, if you were such a bad teammate that you bullied another teammate into retirement, that puts you in the all time bad teammate hall of fame. Outside of killing somebody with Aaron Hernandez as the notch in, I think bullying another teammate into retirement is like the second biggest notch you can have.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're going to run through the teams real quick. Just a reminder, we launched a poll. We're going to leave this poll up for the elongated portion of the next segment. So we're not going to do a 30 second poll. This will be a full poll, but here's team G in case anyone missed it. Derek Fisher.


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[Assistant] Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong, and Jerry Sandusky. Jay's team was next. He took Delante West, Dennis Rodman, Terrell Owens, and Jeff Kent. Team production.


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[Assistant] Had Kyrie Irving, Tanya Harding, Antonio Brown, and Richie Incognito, and both team, Rick Manning, Johnny Manziel, Aaron Hernandez, and Trevor Bauer.


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[Assistant] He was up there. On our Honorable Mention list, we had James Harden Baker.


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[Assistant] Latrell Sprewell? Coach, uh, choked his coach. Russell Westbrook?


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[Assistant] Yesterday on the show, we asked the chat, or bull-assed,


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[Assistant] To put some Shohei Otani trades together to see if they'd be worthy for the Guardians.


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[Assistant] We're gonna do this pretty quickly. Go ahead. I think you'll be happy with most of them. First one comes from Eric Puchnecky. Will Brennan for Otani straight up? Who says no?


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[Assistant] I think the guardians say no. I'll be honest. I ain't training that team control on Brendan for Otani for half a year. Not a chance. Come on. All right, Eddie.


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[Assistant] Beiber, Gavin Williams, Rokeo, Noel, and De Lauter for Otani.


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[Assistant] Logan Allen, Tanner Bybee, Josh Bell, Aaron Savalli, and Ahmed Rosario.


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[Assistant] Alright, next trade is from Spencer Dykes. Gavin Williams, Logan Allen, Valera Aspino, and Quan for Otani and Hunter Renfro. Too much, but they do way too much.


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[Assistant] That's it. We have one more for you, Bull. Yeah. Bieber, Espino, Rokeo, Arius, Valera, and Chase the Lauder, who's been killing it with the Lake County Captains.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we were gonna have a discussion and then react to some viewer comments on this, but because we're up against the clock, we're gonna start with these viewer comments, and these viewer comments are only from our coaches to your members.


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[Assistant] We're gonna ask a question. If we had time, we'd discuss it, and then we'd react to your answers, but we're up against the clock, so we're just gonna read your answers. We got about ten of these. The question I asked...


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[Assistant] Was when having the goat debate, what factors do you weigh most heavily and why?


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[Assistant] It could be any sport, it could be LeBron MJ, it could be Brady vs. Mahal, whatever the GOAT discussion is, what factors to you matter the most? And we got a bunch of answers, we're gonna read them, and if anything from these answers stands out, guys, you guys react and we can chime in on it, but these are from our coaches to your members only, and we appreciate you guys for being supporters of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. First one's from Eddie.


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[Assistant] He says, I think it's the state of the NBA, the players on the team with said individual and what that player did compared to the other are the most important. Fair, foul?


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[Assistant] I think winning has to be a factor, but I don't know how much to weigh it completely. Other factors are clutchness.


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[Assistant] Uh, we have one from John A. He said, I don't usually do GoTalk because of the difference in errors. Seems like errors are pretty common. I think so too. That's totally fair. The way the game is played and how they play it is, uh, very contrasting. Players play differently. For instance, MJ and LeBron doesn't even translate. MJ Coby was more comparable. Rand Calhoun.


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[Assistant] People always say six rings, it compares finals record, but that argument means Jordan can't hold Bill Russell's jockstrap.


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[Assistant] With that being said, it's so subjective, but when LeBron gets credit for being the GOAT for his insane longevity and ability to take crap teams to the dance, April says if it's not champion- it's not championships, excuse me, if win-loss or a quarterback stat,


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[Assistant] And win-loss shouldn't be a pitcher stat and they're certainly not small forward stats. To me, it's about who can alone better create a way to score at will. And that means the answer is Jordan.


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[Assistant] Yup, we got a couple more, uh, Jordan Farmer says, or Jordan Tarmann, excuse me, says I believe there could be more. Jordan Farmer, an NBA player? Yea, I don't think he's a member. He was a UCLA.


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[Assistant] But he says, I believe there can be more than one goat in a sport. It's two different eras and it isn't fair to do a true comparison. I do believe Michael's more iconic than LeBron though. We'll get back to that in a sec, whether you can have two goats.


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[Assistant] Uh, Raystein says, stats in my own eye test. DBDog21 says, it's always dependent on people arguing.


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[Assistant] Total Browns fan, however, prior to Tom Brady, it was always Joe Montana to me, but Bradshaw is never mentioned as a, as a great, even though he's 4-0 in Super Bowls. Those are the pro Jordan will bring up 6-0 in the finals. Those that are pro Bron bring up, he won eight straight, or he made eight straight finals appearances and every other statistic that he's surpassed Jordan in.


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[Assistant] We often get those confused. The best player comes down to whoever is the most talented and the best skill set. The greatest doesn't necessarily have to be the best player. The greatest is whoever the best leader is. And last but not least, Buckeye says winning, but in context, impact on the game and basketball culture overall and to a certain extent, stats and accolades.


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[Assistant] What are the poll results, Mike? Speaking of poll results, real quick, we have less than a minute. Who do you think came in last? I came in last. Everyone agree? I mean, it's a poll. Yea Jay Day came in last.


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[Assistant] So here's how it went, Jay with 8%, Production, this is horseshit, we came third with 23%. Oh wow, I liked your team. Our team was the best.


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[Assistant] We separated us. It is safely amongst the humans. Wiped our memories to protect us. That's why it all went black.


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[Assistant] You're right. It's a lot bigger here in limbo. What next?


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[Assistant] Let me guess, two minutes? It's all set to go. I just need a minute longer to grab what I can from the servers. You're putting her in danger!


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[Assistant] Good save. Look, he's showing crack. Dante, you see that? Yea, I see it. They're still in there. We need to get in there and kill him.


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[Assistant] Everything you hate me for, it had to be done.


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[Assistant] Cat. You're still alive. Cat was useful.


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[Assistant] I can't remember really like, when I was like a kid. The only thing that I could feel like, that's, that's like...


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[Assistant] Watching movies, playing video games. Basically.


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[Assistant] It's nice to go into something else. Sometimes.


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[Assistant] Different softwares on the computer, mixing around with the photoshop.


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[Assistant] I like to play video games. Like, I mean, I could watch movies or whatever, but like, I think some kind of escape this world in a way.


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[Assistant] I like going into a more like creative space.


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[Assistant] When I do something like that, it needs to be perfect. And it takes time to do something perfect. Yeah. It takes a lot of time.


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[Assistant] So then I guess also when there are times when the inspiration isn't really there, then I just leave it.


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[Assistant] That would be a nice thing to do. Yeaah. To see the world, see different places and cultures and yeaah, experience that with you.


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[Assistant] I would like to go to Australia, because that's a interesting country, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because those things, I don't know, simple things feels like you can control or handle.


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[Assistant] Simple things happening and I can't understand why, because it's just...


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Okay. Because you and your mom have been doing that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I remember you two had been talking about that. Like, you should try it or you should, like, if you want to, uh, to show me.


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[Assistant] Around it. And I remember also you talking about that, like, every time when you go up to that workshop, you like, get stuck.


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[Assistant] Looking at everything and all the materials and the tools uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I think it's radiating creativity, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Then we just took a day when I was gonna try.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I made a ring, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, uh, it was kind of, in one way I didn't like it because you open up something. It was like, I just got pictures in my head of our own designs and I couldn't sleep, even if it was fun, but kind of distracting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because I mean, it's a lot of work. Not just creating the stuff, it's all just to fix everything to start selling.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because I, at the same time it was very, it was fun. And I really liked it, but then, so like, when reality hit us like, no, we need to close it down again, I've started thinking, but maybe it could be a full-time thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it was mainly your mom, Anita, that, uh, like, trained me. Yeah. To educate me around it. So I didn't go any, like, I would say courses or no education.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I did everything myself. I started my own business and learned about like accounting and all that. Built a webshop. I mean, you helped, of course. You took photos and...


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[Assistant] Everything like, and also it couldn't be, be possible if it wasn't for your, like, because it was in your business in a way. It was a different company, but it was still in the, in your brand.


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[Assistant] I had a lot to do, too much to do. It was, even if I was working full time, I mean it was over full time, I was working like all the time. On evenings and weekends and it was fun of course, but it was hard as well.


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[Assistant] That also takes out the creative and the passion and the fun of it. You need to turn yourself into a machine.


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[Assistant] Creating the, yeaah, taking the orders and create and send it as fast as possible. So it was no time for making new designs or time for anything else.


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[Assistant] In Sweden, you can do whatever you want, I guess. But I think the traditional way of doing is that if you get married, the woman takes the man's last name. But not, not this time.


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[Assistant] No doubt any like distraction, it's just, and everything is good, everything is just as it should be.


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[Assistant] And then you speed, yeaah. Spending time with you.


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[Assistant] So when a tragedy happens, let's say a murder, if somebody comes to a loved one and the spirit of the person who was murdered is there, could that spirit


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[Assistant] But anything you hand to a private company is potentially government's.


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[Assistant] A lot of people I know, Silicon Valley type people, just felt


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[Assistant] It can't be right. It's not possible. Google, Facebook, these guys are collaborating. It's just not what they would do.


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[Assistant] AT&T, uh, Verizon and Bell phone companies have...


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[Assistant] Seen themselves in a kind of partnership with the government for almost a hundred years.


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[Assistant] And so they have always been and continue to be.


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[Assistant] Faithful handmaidens of the government's will.


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[Assistant] I remember I was talking to someone at Google and I was like, you mean you keep all that stuff? All those things I search for?


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[Assistant] Facebook realized that with the allure of a social network, people were willing to tell them just about everything about themselves.


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[Assistant] So it begins what you might call the data wars. The idea that to really win in this game, you need to have the most data possible.


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[Assistant] What's up, boy? Oh, it's looking right here. How are you?


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[Assistant] His directions were, uhm, go wherever you want. You can see any...


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[Assistant] Classified program. No one can deny you any information. You can go anywhere in the intelligence community. You can recommend anything. Accept. Realize that what I won't accept.


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[Assistant] Is any block between me and my constitutional, uh, oath of defending the United States.


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[Assistant] Will we again throw out civil liberties?


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[Assistant] Will we again empower the government to erode a little bit of the Constitution?


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[Assistant] As long as the government has spent taxpayers' money and built up this huge technical collection infrastructure.


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[Assistant] That could be abused at a time after some other tragedy. We've gotta be damn sure since we've built this thing.


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[Assistant] So we're all big fans of Mary Kay here. She's as connected as anybody with the Browns and is on top of all this stuff in her article.


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[Assistant] process to get the charge dropped. In Texas was he had to complete a pre-trial diversion program, which is supposed to


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[Assistant] Essentially be anger management and learn how to handle these situations better. And he completed that a month ago. And...


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[Assistant] To see this alleged incident happen less than a month ago.


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[Assistant] Um, it took four minutes from when the video hit the internet to the Browns announcing they had cut him, so. Zero tolerance policy was in full effect.


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[Assistant] The Browns obviously did bring in a bunch of defensive tackles this offseason. That room is filled with guys with potential. Only one guy in Tomlinson has really proven himself as a force.


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[Assistant] Wait, Tybus, are you suggesting that you think Zedaria Smith could be the second starting d-tackle?


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[Assistant] According to Pro Football Reference, he's 6'4, 275. That's a big dude. That's bigger than I thought.


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[Assistant] We're gonna move on to our next topic here and we're gonna change up the order of things we're doing.


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[Assistant] We're gonna go to the top combos in the NFL here because that got hot.


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[Assistant] Pre-show. And I'm talking, I had to step in front, I had to do a little dance, Earl and Anthony could hop on the mic real quick.


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[Assistant] Have you seen a pre-show meeting argument get as heated as this one did this morning?


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[Assistant] Girl's not listening, but no, it's not in a long time.


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[Assistant] You're already, you're already coming to each other's throats. So I want to make sure this gets enough time. So we're going to go to the, are the teams scared of the Browns? We'll put that for later in the show and or tomorrow if we have to, but Steve Becker, our EP sent us a question or sent us an email saying, Hey, I think the Browns have the best quarterback.


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[Assistant] Running back, wide receiver, one, just one, tight end combo in football.


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[Assistant] Caught 110 passes last year for 1,400 yards and 12 touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper last season, 78 receptions, 1,160 yards and 9 touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Juju's closer to Omari Cooper than Omari was to Travis Kelce's.


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[Assistant] No he didn't. The only game he lost was the championship game, but that doesn't really count.


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[Assistant] Uh, Steve Becker, EP Steve, wants to know if you add receiver 2. So 2 receivers.


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[Assistant] What's more likely to happen for Odell Beckham Jr this year? Playing in 15 of the 17 games?


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[Assistant] I have an update for you guys since this morning. Mary Kay just tweeted out that Perryon Winfrey is now a suspect in an aggravated robbery incident.


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[Assistant] One more, one more little update, in case you guys wanna make travel plans. The Cleveland Cavaliers are heading...


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[Assistant] Yesterday I told you guys we needed the chat's help with the segment. And we're about to unveil that segment. And when we do that...


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[Assistant] In the signing bonus, you can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more.


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[Assistant] Actually, we can't because it would create a commercial break. Oh no, we can't do that. Literally, we can't do that.


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[Assistant] And essentially, we are going to combine two players and ask you if they're better than one.


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[Assistant] Really, essentially, it's simple. And we want the chat's comments. I need you to answer these questions with us, chat. And we're gonna read your answers after each one. There are-


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[Assistant] That is a combination of Evan Mobley and Isaiah Mobley. If you were to combine them into one player, would that be better than Bam Adebayo?


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[Assistant] We got some chat comments on this one. Most people are saying yes. Uh, Evan419 says today no, two years from now, yes. Uh, Edward Hearn says Mowgli easy. What skill would that player not have? Creative juice says I gotta see more from Mowgli first.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Kevin Durant essentially was like, offense is more important than defense. The winner of the game is who scores more points. And the end goal of the game is to find ways to score. And some guy tried telling him, yeah, but defense matters too. And Kevin Durant and his ultimate ultimate troll ability was like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no crap. But, if you don't score, you can't win. It was pretty funny, you get back. So, who was the comedian? I'll have to look, this guy I never heard of.


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[Assistant] Is Amani Bokuro a combination of Amani Bates and Isaac Okuro?


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[Assistant] He just got a four year, $108 million contract extension.


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[Assistant] Cam Johnson averaged 15, 5, and 2 last year, shot 48% and 41 from 3.


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[Assistant] Cam Johnson just turned 27.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna read you the chat comments. Yeah. Cam Johnson, 100% not a discussion.


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[Assistant] Next one, Amani, all day, no question. Next, Cam, next, Cam, next, Cam, next, Cam. Chad Roeder, holy, holy lord in heaven, Cam Johnson is better. Uh, Edward Hearn, I love Bates, but Cam Johnson, easy.


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[Assistant] Someone in the chat said, uh, this really shows us how frustrated we are with Isaac Okuro. So. It does!


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[Assistant] Salifa Meop, a combination of Dostogna Joop and Sam Merrill.


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[Assistant] Is that a better basketball player than Jonas Valanchunis? No. I'm taking Jonas.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm considering this as a seven foot spot up shooter coming off screen.


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[Assistant] And if that is the case, because I think Valentunis has fallen off a bit. Yeaah. I think this is the closest one, the legit closest one comparison you can take the, uh, combined cast player. So in this case, because I think Valentunis is absolutely watched at this point of his career, give me some, some, uh, some Malifa Diop. What did I name him again?


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[Assistant] Shuttlesworth says, Jonas all day. The Cavs should find some minutes though for Merrill. Uh...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it looks like a lot of people aren't sure if this would be the Sam Merrill sized...


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[Assistant] Jop or Jop size Sam Merrill? I was going with Jop size Merrill. Yeah, I was going with that.


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[Assistant] I appreciate this mashup, and this is your best graphic work yet. How about Juke Talon? A combination of Luke Travers and Jared Allen. Is that a better basketball player than Nikola Vucic?


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[Assistant] We got a couple more, don't worry. Number five, we have seven. Number five.


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[Assistant] How about Dague Pones Jr., a combination of Craig Porter Jr. and Damien Jones, the Cavs newly signed seven foot center, or Carl Anthony Towns. Oh, stop it. Sorry. Carl, give me a cat. Yeah, give me a cat. This is Damien, uh, Damien Jones at seven foot with the ball handling and athleticism of Craig Porter Jr. I don't know what Damien Jones does. He jumps and dunks. He's a seven foot one center. Yeah, give me a cat.


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[Assistant] Is that all in one player? Steve, take graphic. Lebron Jayden. Donovan Mitchell. Take it. Open your eyes. Is that better than Lebron Jayden?


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[Assistant] So the initial question for this one was going to be if you combine all those G League skillsets into one player, is that a top 25 guy in the NBA? And then Jason Lloyd was like, no, that's not enough. Do you think if you combine those six players into one, those skillsets, could that be an NBA All-Star?


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[Assistant] It's Isaiah Mobley size, so you'd be, uh, you know, three, four guys.


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[Assistant] Last year. And I forget exactly what the bet was, but essentially...


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[Assistant] You did something, you never make bets and yet to buy a Baker Mayfield jersey. Right, yeaah. What bet can we make to buy you an Imani Bates jersey to wear on the show?


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[Assistant] Del- Deli's first NBA action was with the Cav, so.


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[Assistant] Matthew Delvedove, according to the best- his vessel reference is very long.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it only says the first deal, it doesn't say he's a giraffe. But he never, his first...


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[Assistant] NBA salaries by the Cavs. He never got paid by anyone but the Cavs.


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[Assistant] That is that. Alright, uh, one thing, we talked yesterday. We're not going to talk about Madden rankings. If you missed that conversation, uh, just so you guys know though, the running back rankings came out. Nick Chubbs ranked first, so no discussion. Cool. We're going to move on.


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[Assistant] Let's talk a little guardians. The bats are hot. They've scored 10 runs in back to back games here.


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[Assistant] My question is, how long do you need to see them?


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[Assistant] Produce at, obviously it won't be 10 runs a game, but produce at a level around this for you to start giving yourself a glimmer of hope that this offense may have turned a corner.


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[Assistant] I got big news. Yeaah. I got big news. Tybus.


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[Assistant] You know, if you go back and read anything about you, it's pretty evident that your sister is a major motivation and part of your life. For anyone who's not familiar with your relationship with her, her story and how she continues to be kind of a motivating factor for you as you enter your 10th year in the NFL, could you, would you mind giving the people out there a little context on


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[Assistant] Your relationship with your sister and how that is a motivating factor for you as you continue to progress on the field.


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[Assistant] To prove that Marquise, in case anyone doesn't know, the national high school record for long jump, it's not Carl Lewis.


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[Assistant] It is Marquis Goodwin, to this day. Still to this day, 26 feet 11 inches.


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[Assistant] Alright, Marquise, we got two quick ones we gotta let you out of here. Real quick, the Browns announced yesterday they were debuting all-white uniforms for three games next year. Did you see the all-white unis and what'd you think of the, uh, the all-white uniforms?


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[Assistant] And, and last but not, last but not least, Marquise, we have two mutual friends, obviously Tyvis and Corey Crawford is a good friend of the show. I know you raced against Corey back in the day and he texted me when I told you were coming on and he said, you have to ask Marquise about the Olympic training center, July, 2021.


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[Assistant] And something that happened between you and him and coach Fisher and a hundred bucks. He wouldn't tell me what happened.


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[Assistant] When he signed with the Browns, Corey initially texted me, and they do go way back. They go way back.


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[Assistant] And uh, Cory's like, you gotta get him on, like he's, he's awesome.


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[Assistant] His whole thing with his sister's cool, Tyvis, it sounds like he's a great dad and married and he's had some, you know, trials and tribulations coming up and overcome them all. Olympic level track star.


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[Assistant] Olympic level speed in the NFL. He's been produced 10 years in the NFL is not easy. Regardless of what you do position, not many guys make it to a decade of playing.


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[Assistant] I hope Markis goes back. Somehow it comes up like, yo, I did this dope interview on, uh, on this show, and that opens door to other guys.


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[Assistant] So we did questions for Tivus two Fridays ago that we never got to. So we're going to answer some Tivus specific questions and then we're going to do a little overtime on why certain sports catch fire in America and others just don't.


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[Assistant] The FBI handed him a letter. He looked at the letter and...


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[Assistant] It asked for what he describes as a significant...


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[Assistant] A ray of information from his company.


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[Assistant] And he noticed that it didn't appear to have been signed by a judge, uh, didn't appear to be a regular court order.


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[Assistant] It said he couldn't tell anyone about, uh, this letter at all.


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[Assistant] And that gag order is part of what made him concerned about going even to a lawyer.


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[Assistant] The FBI dropped its request, but what's interesting is that he's still not able to talk about exactly what they requested, other than that it was information. And he says that, uh, if,


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[Assistant] We knew what had been requested that we would be shocked.


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[Assistant] I went to Paris, Mexico, and I uhm, I'm working on getting into London now.


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[Assistant] It was a crazy ass experience bro, like, the air just different, the whole vibe just different with that shit, you know? And they knew who I was so they fucked me up too. You know, shit just was, I was happy to be there.


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[Assistant] I ain't never think I was gonna go there in my life. So to finally be there, that shit was crazy.


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[Assistant] All of them. Don't know other countries, got no good food.


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[Assistant] I couldn't get no motherfuckin' good fried chicken. You feel me? No good burgers.


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[Assistant] Next time I'm taking a cooler with some ice, take some TV dinners over there motherfuckers.


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[Assistant] Basically just coming out and kicking it and having dinner. You know what I'm saying? Real intimate setting with people that really just talk.


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[Assistant] You know, you gotta have a library card to get on a computer type shit, so.


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[Assistant] I was just in that bitch, I found out how to get in there off the administrator's passwords, that shit. I was just on that bitch all day on Crushpot and MySpace and shit, just all day.


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[Assistant] But still you can't get, it's also, another part of it is, not getting caught. If you get caught it ain't okay.


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[Assistant] We just on some in the car shit, having fun in the car type shit, debating. You feel me?


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[Assistant] Alright, who was the better singer, Whitney Houston or Beyonce? It could be anything, we just having a little car shit, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It's different than the car we ride to, especially when you're going at a certain speed limit.


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[Assistant] Right, when it ain't as loud, that's how you know if it's good. Like, anything gonna sound good, loud as fuck.


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[Assistant] You feel me? But if you play some shit like at medium volume, that's what me and Big Sean just had the same conversation.


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[Assistant] We in the studio, we just did a song, and the engineer was playing it real loud, he was like, no, turn it down, like, medium level. And if it still sounds sweet, then we know we got something.


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[Assistant] He was in the city and me and him was in Detroit at the same time. He just told me to pull up to the studio.