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[Assistant] To kind of screw over that style of play, uh, you know, that's why he is Sean Payton. But either way, it reflects really well on him the way his team played without him last night. The Saints, they just have an edge about them. We know that. They're tough as hell. Uh, but hey, the big question is going to be the offense going down the stretch. Cause, you know,


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[Assistant] Again, we talk about Brady and his weapons. I think we'd all sit here and still go.


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[Assistant] Even with these injuries, I take the Bucks weapons over the Saints weapons, you know, other than Kamara. That's the only one that you're gonna take. Everybody else, I'm still going with the guys on the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Starting to beg the team and the doctor to let me play the last two games of the year. Oh wow. That's what I was doing. I was gonna, like, I think I can play. Let me play the last two weeks. Let me get going. And they were basically, you're crazy. We're not good this year. Just wait till next year. And that ended that.


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[Assistant] So wait, 2006, I know, I know, I remember him getting shut out with the Lawyer Malloy game, with the Buffalo Bills, when they cut Lawyer Malloy, Malloy went to the Bills, they, they, right, but then 2006, uhm, it was, it was Miami, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm pretty good. Well, I kind of heard it last night, so that's not a total memory thing, but hey, good job by the Saints. I want to give them a lot of respect. I do.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, they got Lattimore who can match up with Evans. Yes. They got Malcolm Jenkins who's one of the few people in football who can match up with Gronkowski and at least make it a fight. Yeah. And give him issues there.


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[Assistant] And then they got guys like Chauncey Gardner Johnson who can play in the slot and match the physicality of Godwin and not let his size be such a factor because Godwin's a really big slot receiver. And then the genius of Dennis Allen, one more time, you know, the ability to change defenses.


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[Assistant] A lot of too deep looks, but not just too cover two all the time. You know, it might have been quarters, might have been, you know, quarter quarter half.


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[Assistant] Doing different things to where Brady can go, oh wait, it's too deep, but oh, it's this too deep. Oh, it's that too deep. Oh, I don't know what the hell they're doing here. And that's where they're really good, let alone they got some talent and they're physical as hell.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because I was right after Vic and Ronald Curry and those guys who were legends of that area. I mean, Allen Iverson's from that area, right? Yeah, I mean, that's a special talent pool.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm with you. Let's praise him. I mean, again, I hope we didn't like, did we screw them over when they beat the Vikings a few weeks ago? Did we not give them enough respect? Maybe probably not enough.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, right. Probably some of that. No doubt about it. But listen, I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan. There's no doubt. Oh, the whole year. I mean, come on. They had a few losses. I don't care who it is. It just was bad luck. Well, you know, you just can go through it. So it's...


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[Assistant] That, that's tough. I like the way he handles himself. I like the way that he, you know, wears his emotions on his sleeve like that. I really do.


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[Assistant] Has he made a few bonehead mistakes with, you know, hey, last week going forward on a fourth and one in their own territory against Denver? Do I agree with it? No, I don't.


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[Assistant] You know, again, there's a belief in the team and to yesterday specifically, like,


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[Assistant] Like, they beat the Cardinals. This wasn't like where, I know we're gonna talk in a few minutes about Titan Steelers where I'm gonna tell you the Titans made a lot of mistakes. This was not the same story.


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[Assistant] This is one team that was playing better, controlling the flow of the football game. They ran the football early. Goff made a few good throws within the game and the defense consistently made Kyler Murray look confused in the pocket.


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[Assistant] And they did a great job of containing him too, to where when he tried to scramble a few times, he couldn't go anywhere. So again, hey, it's another New Orleans Saints coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball there, Aaron Glenn. So we're talking two defensive guys here, New Orleans Tree, Sean Payton, way to go.


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[Assistant] And again, they're not greatly talented, but yes, they won that football game flat out. It wasn't like some fluke and the Cardinals dropped the ball or dropped punts or, you know, wide open touchdown pass and Kyler just missed it. It was not that. They earned it. They won it and good for them. They made plays. They did.


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[Assistant] I know. Alright, so hold on a second here. That's a good one. I do, I know, I know this. Alright, is he an old stealer? Great.


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[Assistant] Alright, don't tell me yet, just tell me the team. Bills. He was the Bills? Yep.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's Andre Reed? Andre Reed. Damn, I wouldn't have got there with Andre Reed. I forgot about that. I'm not gonna lie. Pennsylvania. Wow. The Golden Bears. The Golden Bears. Reynolds was great.


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[Assistant] He was great. And the Lions, again. The Lions offensive line is legit. It's real, right? It's legit. It's real. I know. I know we talked about it a few weeks ago. People got it. They can move people. They can move some of the best D Lions in football. And listen, this is the games yesterday where this is why I love the NFL. I love it. Cause it just, again, it shows the point of


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[Assistant] The NFL is just a different animal. It doesn't matter. The Cardinals are the best team in football. They're definitely one of the two. The Lions suck. They suck. Oh yeaah. Well, it's Sunday in the NFL. And the difference between the best team and the worst team, as we've always tried to describe, is not that much. It's not. And it's a matchup league. And, you know, again, you know, you look at it.


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[Assistant] Good field goal drive, ugly. Uh, they do the old shit play, where, you know, play action to the right, uh, I believe it was Amun Ra, St. Brown, kinda sneaks out the backside of the formation, right? And they throw a touchdown there, it's 10-0. Which is a good play by Goff to stepping up. It's a great play.


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[Assistant] No doubt. Made a good throw under pressure. It was a play that the Bengals scored their game winning touchdown pass on. That's the oh shit play. To tie that together. But either way, that, then the Cardinals drive down.


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[Assistant] And you go, oh, well, here we go. Cardinals are going to score. It's going to be 10-7. And they got what? First and goal inside the five. The Lions make the stop and go on a long drive and score a touchdown.


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[Assistant] The Lions had two 90 plus yard touchdown drives in the first half of the game. That's not like lucking into anything. That's like we whooped your ass. And, uh, that's where I give Dan Campbell and, and, uh, the whole coaching staff and everybody in Detroit a lot of credit.


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[Assistant] You don't know. Exactly right. There's no clear number one pick right now as we sit here. You know, there's nobody and they're not a team that like, there's no quarterback that I look at that thinks a number one pick. I could be wrong and we'll see, you know, two months from now when I start to get in draft stuff, but I'm with you.


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[Assistant] And to me, the bigger play at, the bigger picture at play here is...


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[Assistant] To get a little confidence going into the offseason. Go, man, we played tight in a lot of games. We won a few. They know what that feels like. You can start to believe in the coaches and the coaching staff with that. To me, that's more important than the number one pick. It is. So, and, and you're right, there's some things on the roster. They got a lot of the


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[Assistant] The stake of the roster, they just need some of the sizzle now. You know, you got an O-line, got a good D-line, you know, got a smattering of good players, you know, Ahmed Ross ain't Brown's good, Reynolds is good.


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[Assistant] Now we need a superstar to go along with them and they'll get even better. You know, maybe one more, you know, running back to go with DeAndre Swift. You got Hockinson. So to your point, there's some things there where you go, Lions have a good draft and a good off season and you know, they could be annoying to a lot of teams next year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it hasn't been an issue when they've missed him. Right. You know, this is one where, I don't know if I'll be, listen, Arizona's still really good.


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[Assistant] They didn't do themselves any favors as far as if they want to be considered or get the respect they think they deserve. Not with these last two football games. Certainly not. You know, you lose to the Rams and then let it filter over into, well, we're playing the Cardinals and we're, I mean, we're playing the Lions and we're the Cardinals this year. We're going to beat them. You know, they're just,


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[Assistant] Kind of looked uninspired yesterday for whatever reason. And I will be interested. I'd like to know, you know, again, I know what happened to the Arizona defense to a degree. What I don't know is what Kyler Murray was looking at in the pocket and why people weren't open and what Detroit exactly did. And that's something hopefully we will dive into on the Wednesday podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. So now the, what is it, the Bucks are the, the Bucks, Dallas is the two seed even though they lost to Tampa because Dallas, Tampa and Arizona are in a three-way tie and the three-way tie goes to Dallas. If it comes between Dallas and Tampa, of course Tampa will win that tie.


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[Assistant] Hey, forget about the, you know, one, two, three seed right now. Arizona's gotta get worried here, you know, down the stretch. They got some tough games and the Rams are breathing down their neck. They could go and- Might be a wild card team.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, right, it's the first time all year. I know, I know. Maybe it was part of a bigger plan. They got the colts and the cowboys and the seahawks left.


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[Assistant] Right. Say, you should retweet that and then put four losses in.


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[Assistant] And then if you want to add, and Chris Simms said suck it. And if you want to add that on your tweet, please do it. But you won't do that.


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[Assistant] I don't have an issue with that one. I don't. Again, I'm not anti... You're kinda, you're normally anti. I am anti. Well listen, like, you know, I am. Because I don't agree with what they did last week, doing that. I don't. Oh, well now we know what we need. Where it's ten minutes left in the game, we only need, we need nine, we know what we need. Like, it didn't matter if you knew what you need if you were down eight.


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[Assistant] Which is a one score game. I'm sick of some of the analytic


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[Assistant] Bullshit excuses. And again, we can get into the Thursday night game. How stupid was that with the Chargers? Fell into the trap of, you can't beat the Chiefs unless you don't score touchdowns. Oh yeah, right? I mean, what do you, again, it's stupid. You lost the game because of it. Now this, I can get behind this. It's a backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, Green Bay had been moving the ball pretty much at will the whole second half, other than that last drive to give the ball back to the Ravens, the very chance to go down.


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[Assistant] It's Aaron Rodgers. You're probably thinking, damn, we lose the toss. There's a good chance they go down and they could score a touchdown or at least get a field goal. You know, so I, I'm not mad at it. I don't love that call. I don't love the call. You know, I'm not a fan of


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[Assistant] I'm gonna make my guys better than that guy. Like, you know me, I'm a fan of that approach during a lot of the parts of the game. But when you're on the two yard line, going in, and


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[Assistant] You don't have that guy that's like that. Mark Andrews is a great player.


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[Assistant] But listen, to me, like, those type of plays, like, uh, we're just gonna play our guys better. Like, that's a short handful of people in the history of the sport where you do that too. Like, in the history of the sport. Gronk? Okay, fine. Just throw it up to him. Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. The list is short. I mean, really short.


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[Assistant] So I don't ever love, wait, we had all week and we're just gonna run out to the right and let one guy try to beat another guy who's more athletic than he is. You know, so that's where I didn't love it. One option there? That's not my favorite.


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[Assistant] Well, he's coming across on the back side there. Yeaah. Well, he's coming across there, but the play is a bang bang play to the front pylon.


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[Assistant] You know, he saw Andrews go upfield, make the break back outside.


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[Assistant] And he knows at that moment, ooh, there's some space there, and this is when I gotta put it on him. It's either now or never. It's now or never. Now Savage did a good job of just getting a hand on it. You know, Stokes looked like he was there, who's a really good rookie player out of Georgia, their first rounder, but I just don't love that call, because


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[Assistant] You know, again, you have to make that quick decision and it's basically just a one person decision. That's it. And, uh, I didn't love it. Now, you know, and he couldn't run.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's where I think, I think that's where the analytics are being lost, in my opinion. People are going like, oh I know how the rest of the game is going to unfold. No, I get that. And there's just so many games where I can go, well look, see if they just kick the extra point, now a field goal and a touchdown would have won the game. And now they're not going to get that chance. So I just have those. Or you have to take into account who you're playing too.


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[Assistant] You know, again, you know, so that's part of it. And it's not necessarily that it translates to this, but it translates to the Chiefs and Chargers a little bit. Okay, the analytics say to go for it here. Great. Does it say to go for it against the best defense in football over the last six weeks, who have not let anybody in the end zone?


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[Assistant] They're literally holding teams to field goals week after week after week. Did the analytics say go for it in that specific formula? That's what I would love to know. And I would probably say no, they wouldn't, but that wasn't calculated. It was thrown in there.


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[Assistant] With the Jets and the Lions of the worlds and all these other teams who aren't that great. And they went, well, see the formula says go for it. Well, yeah, there's a lot of shit defenses in there that aren't Kansas City or whatever else. But I, I have no problem with it. Back to the point of the story here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I did. Yeah, defense was disappointing. Let me just hit on that first. I mean, you know, one, I wanted to go, was there, is there no plan to stop Tyler Huntley running? Like, are we gonna ever keep somebody around the line of scrimmage? That's where, to me, I was like,


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[Assistant] You know, again, I know he's not Lamar Jackson, but he's, he's not far off from it. You knew that was going to be a big aspect of the football game. That was like the shocker to me, I think, more than anything. I wanted to be like,


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[Assistant] If Lamar played, were they gonna still play this defense and like let him just run for 900 yards in the game? Uh, that's where I was a little, little disappointed with their, their approach overall. To me, like,


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[Assistant] You know, they let them all, and again, the Packers usually do some outside the box type of stuff, but why, why did they let Huntley run so much? And then early in the game,


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[Assistant] Like, man, I would have bet they were gonna try to feed Mark Andrews all the time. Like, I would have been like, I gotta see you throw to somebody else. I gotta see you to somebody else. I'm not gonna let Mark Andrews beat me with your backup quarterback so he can feel warm and cozy with throws right over the middle and all that. I would have tried to go a different way there, but it didn't matter. To your point, Rodgers again,


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[Assistant] Just has this innate feel or whatever. Oh, it's 14-7. Man, it looks like it's a game I might have to...


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[Assistant] Press the issue a little bit and start throwing lasers here. Oh, oh, bing, bong, boom, boom, touchdown, 14 all. And to me, that's where the game changed. At the end of the second quarter, they figured out how Baltimore was playing them. He kind of caught fire. They scored touchdown, make it 14-14. They have a long drive on the start of the third quarter.


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[Assistant] The Ravens get the ball, they have a pretty long field goal drive. The Ravens only have the ball one drive in the third quarter. Because it went touchdown, long drive, Packers, field goal, long drive, Ravens, long drive, Packers, into the fourth quarter, another touchdown. And you thought, oh wow, they have total control of this football game. And then there was the, uhm, what was the, uh,


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[Assistant] How did they get the ball back? I'm blanking on the last field goal. That to me is where the Packers should have put the game away. Rodgers missed his only throw of the day. Should have hit Lazard in the back of the end zone for an easy touchdown. Would have been his fourth of the day.


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[Assistant] Had a third and so they went forward on a fourth and six on their own 14 yard, uh, on their own 14 yard line or no. Is that my memory? Nope. Nope. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Hold on. Here it is. Here it is Baltimore fourth and six. Yes. On their own 29 yard line.


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[Assistant] He threw a pass to Murray. That gave the short field to the Packers. The Packers, few plays, they get down in there close. And Rodgers from the 11 yard line on 3rd and 11, missed Lazard in the back of the end zone. That would have put the game away. But instead they kicked a field goal to make it 14 and the Ravens and Huntley, you know, made a great charge there at the end.


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[Assistant] Half right after that. Yeah, right. That was their only three and out in the second half. Exactly right. I mean...


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[Assistant] I still feel the same way about the Packers. And I know I almost sound disrespectful when I hear myself talk at times.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're as talented as Dallas or Tampa or Arizona.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't, even the Rams, but, I'll say it one more time, they have a New England Patriots quality about them. Like, now New England, not this Saturday night with some of those turnovers,


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[Assistant] Brady and their prime of what, you've heard me say this and I don't mean to bore you, but just like, you know, they, they,


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[Assistant] They don't mess the game up. They execute on both sides. They're going to make you earn it. They're going to wait for you to make your mistake and then just get that one possession and, oh, now you're in trouble. Hey, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. You scored two touchdowns and then we made you kick a field goal. Look, we're up by 11 and that's kind of just, that's the New England way to me. And that's where I guess I'm a little conflicted about them. You can get into the Superbowl that way.


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[Assistant] Well, no, Lazard dropped some passes yesterday. You know, Valdez Scanling's the guy that's dangerous. It just, you know, it doesn't seem like he's really


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[Assistant] Able to do a lot more than just run deep go or deep post. You know, there doesn't seem a lot to be a lot more to his game. So to me there, it's a little bit like, Hey, we got the two runners. We're going to throw the ball a little Aaron Jones out of the backfield. Of course we're going to throw it to Adams. And then it's.


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[Assistant] The weekly matchup against the opponent and the way they want to approach the game to like, who's gonna emerge as the other receiver? It can go anywhere. It can go Lazard, it can go Daguara, it can go MBS, uh, but no, there's no guy that I think is like, the clear cut.


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[Assistant] Number two receiver. The number two receiver is Aaron Jones. That's who it is. Most games. But that's okay. They're making do without it. And they're certainly one of the best teams in football.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, again, I'm not gonna say that it looked better. You don't think it? I mean, it looked good yesterday. It did.


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[Assistant] Lamarr, did, did he get in some moments of like we broke down two weeks ago and then some Steelers and some games before that where, yeaah, he, his eyes and he made some bad reads or he got a little greedy, definitely was off.


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[Assistant] You know, Huntley's playing it true to form, and they're probably calling simple plays that are really just good for him. They are, I know they are. You know, and I think again yesterday the game lent itself to some...


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[Assistant] Nice easy completions just to, hey, here's Mark Andrews 10 yards down the middle. He's open. They didn't do anything. Boom. Uhm, but, you know, Lamar was going on a slump.


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[Assistant] A little bit of a slump. Huntley playing good football, but it's not to where I go, oh it's better than Lamar.


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[Assistant] Well, there's definitely, there definitely played a different style of defense those last two drives. And you know, again, there has to be, that's, that's where there's got to be balance and teams got to figure that out to go, okay, we're playing a little bit of a,


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[Assistant] That is Under Armour. That's their way. Yes. We give you advantages, but not shortcuts. The only way is through. Pete, that was our best one. Best one yet. To date, right? We made it personal. It was like Chris and Ahmed talking, like just talking, talking shop.


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[Assistant] If he goes on some run here the last three weeks and breaks the NFL SAC record, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked.


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[Assistant] No disrespect to T.J. Watt. Obviously one of the best defensive players in the football. I don't think he's been as disruptive on a play-by-play basis as Myles Garrett and Micah Parsons all year. Still really good. And again, please don't, don't, I'm not trying to take anything away from it. I just think I would give them the edge. Either way, Watt's amazing.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they couldn't win a lot of these games without him and Minka Fitzpatrick and some of the great tackles he made yesterday and some big situations where I went, oh my gosh, this running backs about to break it. Oh my, what a tackle. Like it was going to be a 50 yard gain and he brought them down to make it a 10 yard gain, you know, with just him and on an island one-on-one versus running back.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, they're the stars of the show there for the Pittsburgh Divas. I, this, this is the, other than the Saints bucks, this is the shocker of the day to me. The shocker of the day. The shocker of the day. And the one that pisses me off too, because I made Titans my best bet. I did. They dominated the football game. Hold on. So yeah, let's take a look at that. So you were right.


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[Assistant] You'd be like, how did the titans, they rush for over 200 yards? Well, this is where I wanted to get into like, see there's a difference to me in like,


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[Assistant] You know, again, how those games play, like this, this to me was a Pittsburgh team that was physically overwhelmed. They were being overwhelmed. And...


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[Assistant] Hey, there's one time where you go, okay, wait, you're, you're losing the game, but wow, your defense is great and you guys just, you hit and you make all these plays and this is, this is what you are. But that's not what the Steelers are this year. That's not.


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[Assistant] This is not within their normal realm, nor were any of those plays where I go, oh wow, well, I mean, it was only a matter of time they fumbled the way they were hitting these guys and doing that. You know, hey, 10-0, third down.


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[Assistant] Throw the ball to Firkser over the middle. He turns up. It's going to be first and 10 around midfield. You know, gets hit by two guys, fumbles the ball. That leads to three points for the Steelers. Okay, you got that. You know, the Titans get a field goal later on in the football game. I mean, the Steelers only had one drive the whole game.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was one. You know, it was a touchdown drive in the third quarter and that was even ugly. You know, it got a third and one throw to Fryermuth where they called some bullshit unnecessary roughness like, you know, you tackled them too hard penalty. Stupid. You know, that's where I'm sick of that shit, but you know, again, between that, McGrath fumbling,


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[Assistant] Was the, the pass, the tip pass interception, right? That was a third and one, a pick play.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, that was a great play by Taco Charlton, realizing where they're vulnerable as a defense and getting his hand up. I don't want to take that away from him. But then a fumbled snap on the next series? Yes.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Titans right now have a little bit of like that disease we've talked about, right? We've seen teams catch this disease all year long.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they were lucky and caught the rams when they were in the middle of the disease and their, their outbreak of the plague, right? I mean, we've seen the 49ers have the outbreak of the plague. The Chiefs have had, I think, multiple outbreaks of the plague this year of the turnover plague.


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[Assistant] The Patriots had it earlier this year. Everybody seems to go through it at some point. The Titans were the one team that seemed Teflon Don to it. And here we are the last three weeks and what are the-


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[Assistant] What's the stat, Pete? Like, 13 turnovers in the last three games. And of course, that's why they've lost three games in a row. I mean, I just, I don't give a shit who you are. You turn the ball over 13 times in three games, you're gonna lose.


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[Assistant] Three of them, if not two of them, and have a shamrock up your ass to win the other one. Just not good football. It's not what Vray Bowling Company do.


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[Assistant] No, Julio was not Julio. Now he got hurt trying to recover the fumble at one point and seemed like that got him hurt. You're right, they need AJ Brown back big time. They really do. That's the issue right now, Ahmed. I'm glad you bring it up. Because they, they, they, you know, again, they can win this way, but as you see, there's, there's little room for error, you know, and it's, it's a reason they'd lost three out of four, but guys like AJ Brown,


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[Assistant] Julio when they're healthy, and AJ Brown's, he's in a different class than Julio at this point of his career. But they, like we talk about, they take pressure off your team. Cause now we don't always have to go 12 plays, 80 yards. Now it's 4 plays, 80 yards, cause he caught a 50 yard post down the middle, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's, they're certainly missing that aspect of the game. They need AJ Brown back in a hurry.


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[Assistant] No, they're not a lock. They're old school. They're not, they're not exciting. You're right about that. Without those guys. Without those guys. They're, they're, they're defense, you know.


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[Assistant] Let's play, you know, execution football on the offensive side of the play wall. It's not going to be big plays. Uh, but AJ Brown certainly brings that aspect and we'll see, but you're right. They're not out of the woods. Pittsburgh. Again, to me, this is where we got to give like the man, the myth, the legend some credit here. Mike Tomlin. Yes. Yes. So get this. So what?


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[Assistant] It's insane. I don't know what else to tell everybody. There's seven and six, cause seven, six and one for one reason. Cause of Mike Tomlin.


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[Assistant] And the fact that they just continue to hit, hit, believe, oh we're down 29, nothing to the Vikings, we're not going to give up. That's, that's the culture your head coach has put forward. They have no business.


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[Assistant] They have arguably the worst quarterback in football. Okay, I'm just gonna say it. It's, he's top three or four worst in football. Alright? I mean, the defense is thin.


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[Assistant] With limited playmakers, there's not a lot of depth, the offensive line's not good, and therefore that negates Najee Harris.


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[Assistant] And because you don't have a good quarterback and you're not the greatest pass protecting group, you know, the other positive thing you have is he's too freaky receivers, but you know, because the offensive line is not great and you got a, not a good quarterback. They can't really take advantage of that. They are seven, six and one for one reason. Mike Tomlin. Thank you. Mike drop next game.


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[Assistant] That's exactly right. I mean, defense played well.


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[Assistant] Had a clutch turnover at the end. That was great by Khaled Karim stripping the ball to Drew Locke, which was one of the crazier plays in football yesterday. You know, Locke messing that up. But yes, you know, ugly.


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[Assistant] Ugly victory on the road in Denver. Denver's not an easy place to play.


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[Assistant] Pratt, Pratt's a really good football player. You know, I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's like a star, but he's a guy that you sit here and go, he could be the middle linebacker for the Bengals for the, you know, for a 10, for a 10 year span. He can stay on the field all three downs, does a little bit of everything. You know, you've heard me say their defense has got talent. I like the Bengals. I do. And you know,


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[Assistant] Burrow then throws a big completion down the middle with 9 seconds left. I believe it was Boyd.


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[Assistant] To get them the 41 yard line and they kicked a 58 yard field goal to go into the half up by three. So that was a six point swing. That was a big moment of the football game.


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[Assistant] You know, where you went, Oh man, they're going to go into the half down three. All of a sudden you go in, go in up three and you know, they got the ball second, I believe in the third quarter and then went down and made another ugly field goal drive. But that was a gutty, gritty win and a big situation for them. Both teams were desperate.


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[Assistant] And uh, give them a lot of credit. You're right, the answer though, that was the yo shit play that we just talked about with the lions. Play action to the right.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Boyd is kind of in the bunch to the right and he acts like, Hey, I'm blocking down and helping the run play. And then he kind of wheels his way out the backside there and he was wide open and made a nice play on Justin Simmons to make sure he scored for the 56 yarder.


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[Assistant] Agreed. There's only one I can think of that's not a deep throw. It's the slant route to Jamar Chase against Baltimore where he broke like four tackles and then ran for 60 yards. The rest of them, that's where I love Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow to me is one of the best watchers in football. He's aggressive, he's athletic as hell.


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[Assistant] And, you know, he doesn't have as strong arm as Herbert or my homes or all those.


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[Assistant] Still a very strong arm, let alone has all the other clubs in the bag to make all the other throws. Hey, that's, that was a tough game for them yesterday. That Broncos defense, they're a pain in the butt.


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[Assistant] And they, they can, they can defend the pass and give you some issues there. And the Bengals couldn't get the run game going either, but that was a gritty tough win for them. And you know me, I'm, I'm rooting for the Bengals to get in the playoffs big time. They're one of the teams I want. Like you said, you don't want to see the Titans in.


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[Assistant] I don't want to see the Chargers in. Right? I don't want to see the Chargers. Sorry. Your guy, Justin Herbert. I love Herbert. It's not personal to him. I just don't think they're like...


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[Assistant] To me... They don't deserve it. To me, I just, I don't know, there's something about them that doesn't lend itself to playoff quality for me.


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[Assistant] That was scary. Yeah, good. BJ Hill kind of drove him into the ground. It was more of the contact with the ground. I think so. Exactly right. Just the extra force of the big body kind of driving him down there.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. Lock just, you know, every time he's gotten a chance this year,


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[Assistant] And again, this is, you know, eh, where I certainly was wrong before the season and saying play drew lock and they knew better. He just, anytime he's gotten a chance, he's does something stupid. And that was kind of his MO a little bit in college that was people were scared of. But yes, you know, Hey, nice jump ball throw to Tim Patrick to score a touchdown to put them up 10 nine.


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[Assistant] You know, got some physical tools, but you know, just


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[Assistant] Every game he's got a chance. It's just, it's a stupid turnover and a big moment and just not necessary a lot of the times there. And yesterday, yea, they're down there in


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[Assistant] At least field goal range, you know, maybe gonna score a touchdown. You know, what was that play? He fumbled on like, I wanna say it was a second down maybe? It might have been first down. Uhm, but yeaah, that was a huge moment. Nonetheless, like, it would have gave you a chance to second and nine, right? You know, with how much time left in the fourth quarter? Four minutes?


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[Assistant] 10-39, see? So they could have kicked a field goal there, still been 15-13, who knows what happens, but yea, that was a big play, and that's gonna make Drulok be a backup until he gets a chance again to prove he can literally go out there and be a starter. But honestly, can you even be a backup like that?


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[Assistant] I mean, I hope so. You know, I really do. You know, again, like,


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[Assistant] A lot of it was the second half of the game too, when they kinda had control. Like I don't know, is it still gonna be a part of it if the game was in the mix and we're still like in a competitive game? That's what I don't know about the Buffalo Bills. That's what I really don't know. Listen.


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[Assistant] It was scary. And I'm gonna push back on you. The field goal kicker thing really did bother them. They had chances to kick field goals and couldn't do it because they had nobody available.


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[Assistant] To where the game was in the balance early. I mean they went down, I want to say, first, one of the first drives of the game. They got down to the 8 yard line, they had a fourth and nine, and they couldn't do it. So they had to go for it.


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[Assistant] Panthers are moving the ball a little bit. You know, they got some good design quarterback runs and a few little screen passes in reverse that are creative. Uhm, but I, I do, I do think that affected the game. And then the other thing too is, you know, I believe the game was 7-0 and, uh, I don't understand it, but like,


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[Assistant] That sets off Allen and Company to then go up to a 7-0 lead. And I think that was the play where Cam Newton got called out by Matt Ruhl a little bit. Cause they had like a read option run on.


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[Assistant] They had the play. I don't know why I didn't hand it off. And he threw the ball to Robbie Anderson.


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[Assistant] Out on the flat and they batted it down and, and of course, Buffalo got the ball. But again, I guess what I'm trying to say here is,


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[Assistant] Buffalo is not impressive to me. They're not. They're good, they're just not great. They're gonna be a pain in the ass in the playoffs because they're really well coached on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] No, they feast on the poor, they dominate the poor usually at some point, yes. But it's like ugly domination, like to me this was not like, oh wow, this is the domi- like this is, this is Super Bowl caliber domination.


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[Assistant] You know, it's what I kind of fought against early in the year when they blew out the Dolphins and blew out Washington. I want to go, if we all really went back and watched the game together, I'd go, look, it really wasn't that dominant.


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[Assistant] You know, again, their defense creates a lot of chaos. They're really well-coached by McDermott and Leslie Frazier. They're one of the more creative, well-coached defenses in football. And then, you know, Josh Allen is, you know, like we've discussed all the time, he's the freakiest player in football, maybe. So he makes a splash of plays, but I don't know if that's conducive to beating the upper echelon


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[Assistant] Or the upper class of the NFL when it comes playoff time. And that's what scares me about the Bills, I guess.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Right, okay, so Saints in Week 12 with Trevor Simeon. Again, Dolphins in Week 8. I'd like to remind everybody, remember that was the game, it was like, it was what, 3-3 or something? And the Dolphins were there in field goal territory to go up 6-3 at half and 2-3 at interception. You know, it wasn't pretty again, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Uh, so the Chiefs, they were, they were, had the plague at that time there when they played them. That wasn't the Chiefs team that we see now. So yea, that was a great victory then, but that was when the Chiefs were, what, below 500 or hovering around 500. So they weren't playing their best football. That's why I just got questions about Buffalo. You know I'm rooting for him.


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[Assistant] I love McDermott, I'm in the McDermott fanboy club, and you know,


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[Assistant] You know, other than Aaron Rodgers, I mean, Josh Allen might be my favorite player in football. He's certainly the guy I root for most aggressively for because I hate the haters on him at all times. But yeah, I got questions about their team in general. And, uh, yeah, they, it still bothers me here, you know, in week 15.


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[Assistant] I hope he's not. I don't want him to be. You know, I, I, again, I don't deserve, I don't think he deserves to be. I don't. They've had one issue so far in his career there. One, in my opinion. Quarterback. Period.


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[Assistant] And then, here this year, hey, they went for Sam Darnold, what they believed in, and then again, I'm not, I can't be one to second guess too hard, I thought they'd be able to win, but also, so wait, I'm wrong. It's the quarterback and the offensive coordinator. It's definitely.


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[Assistant] I mean, because they fired Joe Brady two weeks ago, but that's to me. The roster is really good. They've turned around the roster in a big time way in a short period of time. You know, again,


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[Assistant] I was the only one before the season saying, watch out for the Panthers. Now the Panthers are five and nine and everyone's gonna go, oh they're not high and well, we gotta fire them. Was it were people expecting that? You know, again, that's where I just wanna go like, come on, we can't have a both ways all the time here.


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[Assistant] But they started off 3-0 and now everybody's expectations change and I think, you know,


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[Assistant] Hey, it's worse than I thought, certainly. I'm not gonna lie. I thought the offense would be more explosive and better, but, you know, I also know, and anybody can go back to listen to my podcasts, and week 3, 4, 5, or 6 I kept going,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're playing good, but man, I don't like their offense. Man, there's defensive players running routes for their wide receivers. Man, everybody seems to know where they're throwing the ball. Man, this is the sixth time I've seen this play in the second quarter of the game.


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[Assistant] Like those are, that's when I start to go, ooh, this isn't good. So they've had issues there, uh, and hopefully they can get that corrected. But I don't think Matt Ruhl deserves to be on the hot seat. I don't.


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[Assistant] The officiating is as worst as I can ever remember in the NFL. It's, it's all over the place. I'm not going to even let off on it. I don't care. It's not getting any better. I'm going to have to see some of these people that are ahead of the officiating department in the next year in person. What are you going to say to them? I don't know. They're probably not going to like me and give me the cold shoulder, but I'm just going to be like, what? I don't know what you want me to say.


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[Assistant] The results are the results, it's all over the place. The referees are dictating the wins and losses of the games way too much. You know, just they are. Too many subjective, oh that was unnecessary roughness, that wasn't, he grazed them with the head, oh that's unnecessary roughness, they grazed them with the head the next play, that wasn't.


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[Assistant] I don't know, that play before was exactly like this one, but I threw the flag on that one and didn't throw it on this one. I don't know why. Because I was chicken to throw it twice in a row. Or because I don't know what I'm doing out there. That's what it seems like. I'm sorry. Yeaah, it bothers me.


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[Assistant] The Colts are a good team. That's why I want the Colts in the playoffs. To me, the Colts are one of those teams where if we sat here and we were, if you, you know, a month from now, we're like, hey, the Colts are in the AFC Championship game. I'd go, that's not crazy.


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[Assistant] You know, they got one of the best offensive lines in football. They got a top 10-ish defense.


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[Assistant] You know, they have some difference makers up front. They do, they lack a big time pass rusher. That's probably the only thing that really is the negative about their team. But yes, they're dangerous and you could see they match up with the good teams in football. There's no team that just physically outclasses them.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that's the biggest thing. And yeah, that was the first time.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, going to Colts, going to Indianapolis when they're a good football team.


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[Assistant] It's an experience. That's a great stadium. The fans are loud.


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[Assistant] You know, there are defense built on speed, so it's loud, you're on field turf.


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[Assistant] And they're flying around and it just seems more chaotic than other games. And, and yea, Mack Jones certainly played his worst game I think as a rookie or at least the worst one he's played since the Saints game early in the year. But was able to still bring him back. Still bring him back, hung around, the Patriots are good. Hey, I was a little surprised that


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[Assistant] The Patriots front got pushed around the way it did. That was a little surprising to me. There's no doubt. And yeah, some of the mistakes by Mack, both interceptions were bad.


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[Assistant] Especially the one down close to the end zone, you know, that certainly cost them points, and yeaah, it could have been a different football game if they had scored a field goal or a touchdown in that, that, that opportunity, but, uh, the Colts are for real. They really are, and I think they're one of the better teams in the, in the AFC, and I want to see them in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Doesn't matter. They're one of those kind of aligns. We're just better than you, so what? But it, you know, it's, it's one of two times a whole year that in the Titans game where I went, damn, I mean,


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[Assistant] You know, Godshaw and Lawrence Guy, they got pushed around a little bit. I mean, I was shocked. Jawan Bentley got hurt. That, I think, hurt them a little bit. But, I, I, I can't lie. I was surprised by that outcome as well. Uhm, but it's rare you see the Patriots make mistakes, lose games that way. And here's the other thing I thought that jumped out to me about the game.


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[Assistant] When you play the Patriots, I think what the Colts figured out to stop the run game at least was that you, you can't, you know, you can't play, oh, we're gonna,


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[Assistant] Stay in our gap, stay in our gap. And like, listen, maybe go to the two shot here so I can explain this a little bit. Like, okay, like if this is, alright, here's the, the guard tackle gap, right? Here's the tackle, here's the guard. The ball's running this way.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of teams just, hey, okay, the ball's going in. Here's my gap. I'm still staying in my gap. I'm gonna shuffle along and stay right in my gap. I'm gonna stay right in my gap.


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[Assistant] Right? Which is great. That's the way they're taught more times than not. But also at the same time, you know, it allows the offensive line to go, hey, we're going to double this tackle and then one of you is going to get to that guy who's kind of shuffling along at the gap three yards down the field and you'll get him just as the running back's getting there and we'll gash him for a big run. The end of the Bills game, into this game.


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[Assistant] The Colts took the, what I have always learned, or the phrase I use is the shoot your gun policy. You see the gap, you know they're running your way.


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[Assistant] I did. But that's to me one of the things I saw the Colts do in this game. They shot their gun, they shot gaps, and that really, uh, ruined the run scheme of the New England Patriots.


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[Assistant] They're bound to have one. This is a tough environment. I did not think they would win. I picked the Colts. I'm not trying to pat myself in the back, but just again, the Colts are good. The Colts are really good. And that was, I think, an environment that Mack Jones and the Patriots, this team,


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[Assistant] You know, I'm sitting here looking at their schedule. They haven't been in that kind of environment. They really haven't. The whole year. You know, you look at their games on the road, you know.


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[Assistant] At Buffalo, maybe a little bit, okay. Other than that, at Atlanta, at Carolina, the Chargers, you know, uh, at Houston, come on, you know, at the New York Jets, none of those are being looked at as going, oh, whoa, that's a tough road game right there. Uh, so that was a different animal.


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[Assistant] Well listen, he's in the conversation for Defensive Player of the Year. I give him respect to that, no doubt. Do I think he's legitimately the Defensive Player of the Year? No. I think he deserves to be in that short list of four or five guys that are involved in it. You know, like we've talked about. Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, TJ Watt, uh, Nick Bosa.


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[Assistant] It really is those four. I think that, that we just summed it up right there. You know, I know Aaron Donald's still awesome, but it's not that type of year. Trevon Diggs, I know he's got all the interceptions, but no way. Come on. Uhm, so I do think he deserves that. But the comeback player of the year was where I think people are dropping the ball.


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[Assistant] That to me is wrong. It's wrong. See that to me is just holding onto a narrative from like the start of the year.


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[Assistant] I'm blaming all the sports media and the public. It's just, it's just everybody ever since the visual of Dak Prescott's ankle going the wrong way last year has been trying to give him this award this year before it even started.


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[Assistant] I mean, and then he had the great game in Tampa to start it off and everybody was already engraving his name and come back player of the year. Look what he did. He's great. I get it.


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[Assistant] But like, again, I want to make the point here. Nobody is discussing Burrow or Dak Prescott as offensive player of the year, nor are they even close to any MVP conversation. Nick Bosa is in the defensive player of the year conversation. He got hurt early on in the last year, ACL injury, every bit is


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[Assistant] Actually, more crucial to him in his position than Joe Burrow hurting his at quarterback, or Dak Prescott hurting his ankle at quarterback.


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[Assistant] And here he is, without a doubt, one of the best Stevenson players in football, once again. And again, the stat sheet, Nick Bosa goes into that, like,


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[Assistant] You know, he's, he's disruptive and of course he gets after the quarterback. So yeah, I do believe he deserves to be in that conversation. In fact, I think he should be the number one guy, hands down.


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[Assistant] I know we love to give the quarterbacks the awards for everything. Everything. There's an award. What quarterback can we fit in there to give the award to? Not Joe Burrow or Dak Prescott.


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[Assistant] It's Nick Bosa. He's the comeback player of the year. 100%.


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[Assistant] And then I'm gonna continue to bang the table for that. And then the 49ers themselves, Ahmed, just to go to that, I look at them like the colts a little bit. But maybe more dangerous. Where I go, if we're sitting here a month from now going, the 49ers are in the NFC Championship, can you believe that? I'm gonna go, yes, I can believe it.


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[Assistant] It's a top 10 defense, a top 10 offense. You know, I don't think the offense is actually in the top 10, but I would bet you in the last five, six weeks it's top 10. In your heart, they're top 10. They are. And as I'm looking at it right now, they're number 11. So it's not like they're, they're out of it here.


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[Assistant] Doesn't matter if it's from the QB, the wide receiver, or the punter. See, they understand. Trick plays do happen. Don't just bet the football season. Live your bet life with points bet.


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[Assistant] Top quiz. Two TDs have been thrown by non QBs this season.


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[Assistant] Even though I smoke a lot of weed, my memory is good. Okay, hold on, there's another one.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes. Against the Chiefs. The little Team Tebow. Acted like he was gonna run up the middle and throws it up and throws it over. Was that the Chiefs? You're right. Good call. It was. Yea, it was the Chiefs. Wow. Way to go.


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[Assistant] Big D beats Little Blue. Yeaah, it hurts me. Cause it's supposed to be Big Blue and Little D in my place, in my house. You know me, I'm a Giants fan. But man, this Dallas defense, you just kinda hit on it. Daxman's slumping lately. Dallas defense is the star of the show. Period.


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[Assistant] They are absolutely on fire, you know, the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] I think it does. I mean, it really is. From one year to the next, even within this year, it was great. Like early in the year, it was really good. Then they went through the injuries and went through a little slump and I went, well, this is


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[Assistant] You know, I kind of think what their defense was. Shame on me for, you know, you know, maybe not publicizing the injuries on the defensive line and what an effect it had on their defense, because man.


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[Assistant] Hey, whatever defense end you want to put else in there, Terrell Basham with 1D tackle, they can move these guys around and get the matchups they want. And then with those guys and Lawrence and Micah Parsons and Gregory and Basham,


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[Assistant] You know, they're all capable of dropping back into past coverage and doing that too. So they have a lot of options to mess with there. And it's, it's the pressure by them up front.


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[Assistant] Gosh. With the sacks. Yep. Hold on. Let's see here. I mean.


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[Assistant] Alright, don't answer, don't give me this, this is not a final answer yet, because Quentin Jammer was their corner, he was their best cover guy, but I don't feel like he ever had 10 plus interceptions, so it's not him, right? It's not Quentin Jammer. Correct, not him.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. How about that? Yeaah. Wow. So yeaah. Those are some good teams there. They went to the AFC Championship that year.


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[Assistant] I do like that they gave the ball to Tony Pollard more yesterday. To me again, they're dropping the ball. Pollard should be the main ball carrier. Ezekiel Elliott should be the change of pace guy. That's just the way I look at it. Pollard's capable of more at this point in his career.


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[Assistant] But yeah, with Washington football team on the horizon, Arizona, then Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] Listen, I expect them to beat Washington and Philadelphia. I do. I'm not going to lie. It won't be easy. Arizona, we'll see how that goes. Uh, but they do have a chance. They certainly do. But the offense like you've talked about, it's just


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[Assistant] It's, it's lost its way a little bit. It's not like, oh wow, it's really concerning, but it's certainly not to the level we saw early in the year where it was explosive and borderline unstoppable there for a time period.


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[Assistant] Oh, I forgot. Let me get back to the sheet here. Okay. The Duke of New York. Oh, Duke Johnson. Duke Johnson. He was the difference for the Dolphins yesterday. Career game for him. Yeah. I mean, it was a lot of good runs. Miami slowly but surely been running the ball better over this winning streak. It's not beautiful. Um,


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[Assistant] Popped a few, few runs yesterday. I mean, I believe he, you know, of course he was consistently good. I think Gaskin broke a long run later on in the football game, one of the last drives of the game. This was an ugly football game. The Jets had an opportunity. I'm going to just throw this out there pretty early to really control the game. And I know they were up 17 to 7. It should have been worse.


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[Assistant] You know, Tua was really all over the place early in the game. All over the place. Through a bad interception, you know, he went into the half and I told Pete and you guys before we started the show,


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[Assistant] He went in the half seven for twelve for a little over a hundred yards.


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[Assistant] Of, you know, and one of those incompletions of course was an interception. Of the other four incompletions, I'm not like embellishing. I believe all four, if not it was three, were like in the chest of the Jets players and they dropped it.


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[Assistant] They had opportunities to really like, take advantage of a Dolphins team that was kind of like a sleep at the wheel early on in the football game.


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[Assistant] You know, the Jets ran some cool trick plays early. Zach Wilson maybe had the play of the day on the offensive side. They ran like the old like quarterback throwback and then he looked to throw the ball down the field. Nobody was there. He broke like two tackles, made an awesome play that way. They had a little bit of like a,


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[Assistant] A hook and ladder play on a third and fifteen that got him a first down.


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[Assistant] And can, just as the game went on, just continued to wear the Jets out. And once the Jets kind of lost a few of those trick plays, their offense wasn't capable of doing anything on that Dolphins defense. Dolphins running the ball, their defense.


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[Assistant] Two have found a little rhythm in the second half to be more consistent. You know, I know he threw the pick six next drive. They go right down. They run the ball. He has the clutch slant touchdown pass to help them win the football game. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't, but they won nonetheless. And the Dolphins are still one of the hotter teams in the game.


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[Assistant] No, I just call it, I've said many weeks when he's played good that he's played good.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna just fall back because idiots like Big Cat at Barstool like, you know, try to start problems on social media, okay? I mean, I'm not. I'm not. Just because of some...


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[Assistant] I don't know what it is. Some, a fanbase that has the, uh, to and on the fanbase has their, their, their heads up their asses and they won't take it for what it is. I've said it before, you couldn't win with them. You just gotta have a certain formula.


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[Assistant] That's what it is. Uhm, but either way, he did good enough for them to win yesterday. Their defense is still one of the hottest in the game. And they just harassed Zach Wilson and that Jets offense constantly through the second half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of kicking going on. A lot of kicking over the last week there. Within the team. Josh, Josh Lambeau got kicked by a X.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's where, that's where we kinda came up with the headline, because again, an ugly football game.


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[Assistant] You know, Davis Mills was consistent, made some good plays. They had a great first drive through the touchdown to Brandon Cooks.


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[Assistant] You know, Jaguars answer back with a field goal and then it became the special teams from the Texans to take it over from there. And it was a long kick return that put them up 14-3 and it was an ugly game after that. Uhm, but I think when you look at like, uh, fair,


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[Assistant] But, but, two 50 plus yard field goals, like you said, at the end of the half, where, you know, games there, it's 14 to 10.


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[Assistant] And now it's 17-10, 20-10, you know, third quarter, they have a drive there, another field goal, that kind of put the game out of reach. The Jacksonville offense is just incapable of doing a whole lot. And they got James Robinson, yes, you know, Trevor Lawrence, you know, again, it's good, it's not great, which is


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[Assistant] No, they don't. It should have been the game to feast. It's better statistically than it, than I, I've said this to Florio a lot. It's better statistically than what it shows. It is. You know, their offense has led to a lot of bat, you know, dad defense where they go through stretches where it's like three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, five and out, three and out, five and out, three and out. And it's just like, well, the defense is going to collapse at some point.


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[Assistant] They've had a lot of games where I'd go, hey, the game was 10-7 in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] And they finally just fell apart. Uh, but, but, uh, yeaah, it is. I mean, the way that Trevor Lawrence and the offense have looked in Jacksonville over the last few weeks has not been impressive. He makes a few throws every game where you go, oh wow. He misses a few throws every game where I go, uh, he shouldn't miss that. And, uh, you know, I just don't think it's a great scheme.


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[Assistant] You know, running the ball on James Robinson is the best thing they do, but they don't have a lot in the pass game that scares people and of course that makes life tough on them. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] See, he's more, he was maybe a little more NFL ready. He understands how to play the NFL game coming from Stan, Stanford. But I'll like, this is where, I'm not giving up on Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] If we took his 10 best plays and put him next to Davis Mills 10 best plays, we'd go, whoa, that's not even close. That throw, that play, that run, Davis Mills can never do that.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that's where I'll push back against that to a degree. Yes, he's been...


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[Assistant] Managing games and maybe a hair more consistent on how he runs the offense, but this is what I tried to tell everybody about Trevor Lawrence coming out in the draft a little. He wasn't the machine everybody thought he was throwing the football and he played an ecology offense. So he's learning on the fly here.


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[Assistant] Again, I have no doubt that he'll surpass Davis Mills.


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[Assistant] You can teach a guy how to read the play, as long as he's not an absolute idiot. Which I don't think Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson or Justin Fields or Trailer. You can teach them how to go through reads. Or the right thing to do in a situation. Or, you know, when to take a sack.


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[Assistant] What you can't teach them to do is throw 40 yard lasers down the sidelines or spin move, break a tackle on the run, run for 30 yards or sprint move, break a tackle, get outside the pocket and throw a 40 yard laser. That can't be taught. And Davis Mills can't do that stuff where I'd go, the other guys can and they can learn the stuff Davis Mills learned. And that's where I don't worry about it.


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[Assistant] I mean, what if they ran a bootleg play action pass over there? He would have been right in the middle of it. He would have been right in the middle. Yep. He would have. And he's wearing the shorts. I feel like if you run on the field... Got a mullet maybe? This is where I want the NFL to go to the next level. Mhm. You run on the field. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You don't go to jail or anything. No jail, but Miles Jack gets the ten yard run started and hits you. Uh huh. You don't go to jail, no penalty. We'll see if you can walk for the next week, we're not sure. But that's what you get for going on the field. It's kinda like gladiator, like back in the day. I like it. Off of his head.


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[Assistant] I don't know either. We're probably going to hear somewhere here. It's Monday. We're doing this at 1 0 4 p.m. We're probably going to hear...


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[Assistant] Within the next hour, whether like guys like Baker Mayfield and some other guys pass through a COVID test, I would think that's gonna be breaking news here any moment. So that would change your pick, clearly, right? I'm picking Cleveland either way. Okay. I am. I'm going Cleveland in the fact that they're home, and I just think the Raiders are a beaten puppy.


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[Assistant] All right. Uh, as far as like, I don't know if they really believe that they're a playoff football team.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to play the fact that there wasn't too much of a COVID outbreak on Cleveland's defense that they cause chaos and issues and they win an ugly football game. But I'm looking here, Baker Mayfield and Case Kingdom, they won't play. So they didn't, they didn't test negative, uh, twice within 24 hours. So they're not playing for sure. I can definitely tell you that.


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[Assistant] All the way here. I am. I mean, there's nothing here that makes me change this game at all.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I do think Justin Fields and that offense will probably make some plays on a not so great Vikings defense, but, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I just look at it in Los Angeles. I think the Rams got their mojo back a little bit. I think the way they beat Arizona last week, again, and I know Arizona made some mistakes, but it'll take a little pressure off of them.


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[Assistant] You know, with Matt Stafford, the way he played last week.


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[Assistant] You know, I think they're out of their funk. I think they got rid of their disease that we talked about early on here. And yes.


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[Assistant] Seahawks, pain in the ass, I know they're gonna compete, but I have no faith in their offense still, and I know their defense, which is a pain in the ass too.


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[Assistant] More of a pain in the ass than their offense. They'll hang around, but McVeigh always seems to have a good understanding of what Seattle's doing. They just can't, I don't think they can match up with the Rams across the board. That's why I go Rams 31-21. Like an ugly 31-21.


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[Assistant] Probably 24-21 with like 5-6 minutes left in the game. Score a touchdown to kinda go up by 10. Kinda that way.


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[Assistant] by Philadelphia in this run game. They are going to be back, but it doesn't change my thought overall. It doesn't. I think Philadelphia, again, on the offensive side of the ball, whether it's Hertz or Minshew, they put you in a real bind with how overpowering their offensive line is. Defense, not great, but you know, Washington offense, not great either.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not. You know, I mean, run game is good. Heineken makes a few plays and we go, ooh, wow. But they're just not enough of a machine. You know, they're, they're not. And Curtis Samuel's not totally healthy there. So I just look at the Eagles as being a better football team at this point. They match up pretty good with Washington. I think they win it. And the results are in.


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[Assistant] Uh, so here we go. Ezra Giesling? Uh, no. You have to in the morning to get rid of morning breath. I do. And you have to at night to get all the food off the day off.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Whoa, I don't know what that means. Okay. But every day, question mark question mark, y'all must go through toothbrushes so fast. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Wow, WhiteWinterHimbo is like, what, uh, true, twice a day, every day, he's like, that's crazy. Alright, and then Corey Joskiewicz, little trick, carry around a portable bottle of mouthwash, keep it in your car, desk at work.


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[Assistant] So you can always freshen up when needed. Can't risk breath being the reason Sims loses an Under Armour sponsorship. That is true. Ah, very well played, Corey. Very well.


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[Assistant] Maybe. And just not at night. Maybe. Alright, well maybe we'll continue this for, uh, the Wednesday podcast or whenever you're coming back. I don't know when it, but then, you know we have an ex, uh, Christmas poem from a


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[Assistant] Thomas, uh, at Thomas Spena. From Brazil, he's Brazilian. Thomas Pena. Thomas Spena. I hope we didn't mess that up. I'm sure we did. I know, I'm sorry, Thomas. Uhm, alright, here's the poem. Okay. Ahmet is my homie, so is Chris. To never feel lonely, the pot I won't miss. Phil has the answer, Paul has the grit.


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[Assistant] Alright, appreciate it, we love stuff like that, and feel free to send stuff like that at any time, alright? Everybody be good, enjoy the...


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[Assistant] And I say, what is being nice? Right? Is being nice not telling the truth, right? Or is it just, hey, I think you struggled here, improve on this, and I think that is being nice.


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[Assistant] It's like giving your kid candy every day. They want candy, right? Some kids would be like, that's nice. You gave your kid candy, but that's actually being me.


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[Assistant] Paul is usually here today. I was like, I came in, I was like, wait a second, hold on. I was like, we talked about these games already. I was like, I've already done this whole thing. What am I gonna do here?


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[Assistant] So we got three games that you took a deep dive into. We talked about maybe doing jets and bucks.


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson's kind of on fire lately, he deserves a little love. Uhm, so we'll talk about that game at the end, but we got three other games to get to before that. We got the Chiefs, uhm, we looked at that against the Bengals, we've got...


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[Assistant] Got up 14-0 in this game. And something that you've said about Kansas City a lot is, you know, you want to see them be able to do a diverse amount of things, right? A little more diversity, perhaps even more diversity in the running game.


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[Assistant] Alright, do you have an example of something they should have done more in a game?


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[Assistant] Is that just something they can do against the Bengals or their other playoff teams that could do that?


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[Assistant] Well, it's a defensive lineman, defensive tackle. You can kind of pin your ears back if you're not scared of the run, obviously. Yes, right. Did you see that from the Bengals? Were they able to get a pass rush second half specifically against the Chief?


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[Assistant] Like last year, he had the numbers, right? He was on the Saints. Everyone else was kind of freeing him up. I mean, he's turned into a god.


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[Assistant] It's funny, you go, they got to play the Packers without Rogers, they got to play this team without this guy, they got to play the Giants.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's start with Joe Burrow and kind of things that he may have been able to pick up in this game. You know, taking coverages from one play and applying it, maybe looking at the tablet and applying it to a play later on in the game. Do we have an instance of that?


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[Assistant] But we get it, we get it. Uh, Chase was, uh, gone. Uh, so, so that scared him off the zone. Yes. You know, and they were like, all right, I don't know if we want to do that, but we do have an instance here. And do you want to show this right now of that defensive line, Chris Jones get into, get into burrow? Yes, I do.


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[Assistant] They haven't, they haven't changed a lot, right? But the orange socks are different.


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[Assistant] They're good. Although, an all white with a black striped helmet, that might be cool. Alternate, just one day, experiment with it one day, next year.


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[Assistant] So after showing those last two plays here, end of the game, crucial part of the game, you figured something out, you're getting the pass rush there, you're playing coverage, you would think you'd do that again on third.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's uhm, you can see what they were trying to do. I can see it, I understand it. But they were getting there without having to do all of that stuff. Yup, yup. I mean, they're seeing the same thing there. Both these teams are going to be fascinating to watch because they can do all that stuff.


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[Assistant] Real quick, and I know we didn't talk, um, about Patrick Mahomes and the near interceptions we did a little bit on Monday. Did you see that at all? Cause they, I mean, they've had interception issues. Patrick Mahomes has this year more than any other year. Did you see anything specifically there?


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[Assistant] Alright, last two things. The Bengals. Can they do this against Cleveland?


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[Assistant] I don't even want them to play. So you don't think that it's worth it for them? Cause they can still get technically the one seed. Oh, I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] I forgot they can still win the number one seed. So can the Chiefs at Denver and maybe that's a spot where the Chiefs can work on some of those run game things. I'd like to see that.


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[Assistant] If you get the two seed, you might get them automatically. You're like, wow, that's the reward for the two seed, is that we got to play, don't even get to buy anymore, and we get the worst matchup. You know, they've talked about this before, of having


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[Assistant] I mean, really a shame because we've perfected that to this point. We've got it down to a science and an art form here. The Cowboys, I don't know that they, we thought that their offense was down to a science and an art form. And then things started to go a little haywire form. They've got an injury now. Michael Gallup is out. Uh, they lose to the...


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[Assistant] They've just been shut down completely and not even by playoff teams. And so you wanted to just DAC a little off, so big picture, you dove a little bit deeper into what's going on with the Dallas offense.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we'll get to that. Let's start with Dak being off. And is there a play that you found where you're just kind of indicative of him just not being on top of this game?


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[Assistant] Enough people for enough years were like, it's 3rd and 9, and you ran your route at 5 yards. Idiots! And they're like, we're not gonna be called to Navy. We're gonna run them all at sea.


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[Assistant] Alright, so. I'm gonna stay up here. So he was off. Yes. And you've indicated there that this is a pattern that defenses can recognize. Yeah. Are there other situations where the offense is just not complex enough?


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[Assistant] I mean that, it's so, cause a big key, right, for defense is like, can we get pressure with four? Can we get pressure with four? And a lot of times you just assume that's a couple defensive tackles, two defensive ends, right? It's like, here's four, but it's a safety and they're able to do it in a different way that totally screws everything up.


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[Assistant] If you're the Cardinals, if you're another team, like the Cardinals have a lot of players who can do a lot of different things. They definitely kind of built their defense on that. Yes, they did. Like the Isaiah Simmons type, where it's just like, he's a hybrid. He can do a whole bunch of different things. So it's like, they have perhaps an ability to do this where other teams do.


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[Assistant] And their offense. And it being too simple at times. And Cliff not doing enough.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's show that then, because you're right. I mean, you were looking at the film, you're like, how many screens do they throw? Are they near the top of the league? And they're fourth in the NFL. Fourth in the NFL. Fourth most screens for this Kyler Murray-led offense. Uh, but they can get the big play. Downfield. Not Deandre Hopkins right now, he's out. But Christian Kirk is probably their deep, deep guy right now. Deep threat.


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[Assistant] You said something in there. You think Edmonds is that much of a difference maker for them?


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[Assistant] And do we know about DeAndre Hopkins availability?


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[Assistant] And it makes you defend the whole field. It is cool because you know that Kyler Murray is not just a screen guy, right? If you had a quarterback like an Alex Smith and you're like, that's the only, I mean, that's one of the only things he can really do effectively all the time, but you still have that thread of the deep balls he just showed.


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[Assistant] The Arizona Cardinals can still win. The NFC West. Yes. So they have to win. Win. Ram's got to lose. Ram's loss. Versus the 49ers. So it could happen. Our friend's over at points bet.


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[Assistant] Have odds on that right now. The NFC West winner odds, the Rams are the favorite right now at minus 400, Arizona plus 250.


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[Assistant] How much chance, would you look at that plus 250 and go, oh there might be some value there.


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[Assistant] If you want to place that bet, we have, uh, we have points bet. Points bet. We have a way that they can do that.


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[Assistant] I've never done that. And if it happens, it can't just be a whim thing. It can't just be like one day I'm just like decide to do it.


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[Assistant] We have to build this up. We gotta build it up. And make it an event. Okay. Like a charity event where we raise $20,000 for charity, and Ahmed will say the f-word. Okay. Right, we can't just like all of a sudden just do it randomly one day. I mean, we can.


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[Assistant] Could be hosting perhaps the Indianapolis Colts or the Las Vegas Raiders. She played, uh,


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[Assistant] This last weekend with the Colts losing to the Raiders last second comeback win for Derek Carr and company that three game winning streak snapped at home for the Colts. So let's start with the Colts here on offense, because I do think it's, it's interesting that the Carson Wentz debate. It's like, is he, is he good? Is he having a.


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[Assistant] Good year, bad year. He's not turning the ball over at all, which is really good. He's missing some key big plays, which is bad.


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[Assistant] Their offense is going to need to be firing more than just Jonathan Taylor. Are you seeing any indication of that being possible for them?


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[Assistant] So let's look at a couple plays here. Bernardo Banos says, Hey guys, love the pod. Carson Wentz had a couple of bad misses on Sunday, especially in crunch time. Can the Colts win a playoff game or a couple with him at quarterback?


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[Assistant] He has come on strong lately. Uh, December 5th was when he played the most. He'd played very little between then. I think he's replaced Cory Littleton.


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[Assistant] But you made the note in your notes too that you think that they could still do more things in the run game to help Jonathan Taylor. A lot of it is because of Jonathan Taylor. It's just too basic. On the opposite side, you think the Raiders are doing some good things with the running game, or at least did in this game.


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[Assistant] So you like what you've seen in the run game at least recently and in this game from the Raiders and Josh Jacobs. Now they go against the Chargers on Sunday Night Football. Winner gets into the playoffs. Kevin Adrian says,


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[Assistant] You need to cool down with that quote, Chargers run defense is bad narrative. You've been proven wrong six of the last eight weeks. Oh, he's coming at you. He's coming at you hard here. I like it. Um, but what do you, what do you think? Uh, can the Chargers slow down that run game from the Raiders? Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, like,


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[Assistant] Alright, well the Jets had a flaw in the last touchdown of the game, letting Tom Brady and company go 9 plays 93 yards in 2 minutes.


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[Assistant] It's our play of the day. Play of the effing day. Play of the effing day. It's Tom Brady's 33 yard game winning touchdown to Cyril Grayson. Oh no. The Jets had this game.


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[Assistant] That's just what happens with losing teams. What happened here, if that didn't happen but that's why you are who you are.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we will. We'll give you that at the end, but let's, let's, let's take our medicine first. Show what Tom Brady could play. No, you don't want to, but here we have to do it because it's a game winner.


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[Assistant] Could make Cyril Grayson more important to this team if they're gonna repeat his Superbowl champions. What do you think? What do you think as 2017 undrafted free agent? He has been signed by the Seahawks Colts, Seahawks again, Texans, Bears, Saints, Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Then it made his NFL debut in 2019 with, uh, the Bucks. So he's been around. I think he's got a track background. I think my dad was saying that.


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[Assistant] Speaking of having talent and making his fair share of plays, we can't do this podcast without letting you show some love to your guy.


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[Assistant] Are you more confident now in saying that than you were even in the draft evaluation process? I am.


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[Assistant] That's good, alright. That was the play of the effing day for you. That was your play of the day.


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[Assistant] That was good. What'd we do? What'd we do there, Pete? Hour, hour 20, hour 25? Hour 40. Oh, okay, a little more. Hour 40. I'm not capable, apparently. I really like that. I don't often get to sit here with you on Wednesday and see those plays, but that is really cool to see kind of...


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[Assistant] That's the whole point of the Chris Simms on Button podcast, is you talking a lot. Yes. We wouldn't be doing this if you didn't do this.


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[Assistant] By seeing that not only did I win yet again in the straight up category, 10 and 4 versus 9 and 5, versus the spread.


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[Assistant] Your fallback position after you conceded the straight up your ass.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, that's the weird science reference. Give me the whole bottle.


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[Assistant] Straight up. We did it a few weeks ago. Look up the clip. Weird science. Straight up. You'll see what we're talking about. Anyway, I'm extending my lead. I doubled my lead just when you were in striking distance to catch me against the spread.


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[Assistant] This is the time of the season where you start taking risks. Keep going. Keep going. Keep digging that hole, baby. I know.


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[Assistant] It gets in your head though, it does. She's gonna be busy. Bleeping.


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[Assistant] So, but I'll give you an example, and this is why I'm very glad I don't bet.


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[Assistant] I would have bet the house on the Patriots-Bills game going under. And I would have felt great about it. And I would have felt so great about it that all of a sudden I would have felt like I know what I'm doing. So you start betting on other things. And the next thing you know, anything you won taking the under on Monday night is gone.


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[Assistant] It's, and then you're even farther behind than where you started, so.


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[Assistant] This is all the enjoyment that I need. This is all the enjoyment that I need going against you and beating you in all categories, but the lead in the best bets is still a very narrow one game. 22 and 17 versus 21 and 18. Let's get to it.


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[Assistant] All odds, as always, provided by our friends at Points Bet. Thursday Night Football.


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[Assistant] Stealers at the Vikings. The Vikings are now three and a half point favorites. The line creeping in their direction and over under of 43.5.


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[Assistant] Chris, I've gone back and forth. I went back and forth like three times earlier today when you were giving me your take on how this matchup goes. It's like, yeah, it sounds pretty good. I like the Vikings. That sounds pretty good. Like that sounds pretty good. Like the Vikings. I don't know what to do. What are you doing?


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[Assistant] What I do is I make all my picks the night before and then I review them during that hour that we have between the completion of PFT Live and the start of the Joint Megapix Podcast.


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[Assistant] Most of the time I don't change my mind. This time I did change my mind. I had the Steelers. I've switched it to Minnesota 27, Pittsburgh 23. I think the desperation level.


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[Assistant] On interviewing candidates from other teams with permission from those teams as long as you have a coaching vacancy. Meaning that your coach has to either be gone or he has to have been told he's gonna be gone at the end of the season. That's when the advantage arises and that's where I think some of these guys are gonna realize


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[Assistant] The, the clock may strike 12 for me a couple of weeks early, so I better do what I can. And I don't know that I'm gonna suggest we're gonna see fake punts or other craziness.


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[Assistant] But I think you're going to see a level of desperation from the Vikings tonight that we don't usually see because they desperately need this win. That's what ultimately got me. The X's and O's are close enough. The desperation level for the Vikings. The home field advantage.


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[Assistant] I think they beat Pittsburgh at home for the first time since 1986.


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[Assistant] And uh, one last point here, the Vikings defense and specifically coach Mike Zimmer needs to be reminded this is not a CFL end zone that goes 25 yards deep. Focus on the goal line if and when the time comes for the Steelers to try to...


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[Assistant] I don't think golf would make it in the CFL. I don't think golf would make it in the CFL. CFL is better when people realize.


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[Assistant] Uh, and too many cold weather games for someone with, uh, uh, you know, not the biggest hands in the world and also not thriving in those kinds of elements. One o'clock Eastern games on Sunday, the Falcons at the Panthers.


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[Assistant] Two and a half point favorites and 42 and a half over under. And the Panthers are in this kind of sneaky dysfunctional stage that they were able to keep under wraps by firing offensive coordinator Joe Brady when they did.


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[Assistant] We always say dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. Well, when you see a dysfunctional thing, you work backward and say, maybe we got a dysfunctional team. I'm concerned about the Panthers. I'll go ahead and take this one first too. I think the Falcons beat them. I'm surprised by this spread. I think the Panthers are crumbling and I think the Falcons have convinced themselves they're rising. They played the Buccaneers tough.


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[Assistant] They've won enough games that they're in the fringes of the playoff chase.


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[Assistant] I like the Panthers to lose this one. Falcons, what's my score here? 27-20. I just think that the Falcons are catching the Panthers at the perfect time because the move with Joe Brady tells me that behind the curtain, it's getting messy in Charlotte.


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[Assistant] I'm tempted to make this one a best bet too because the Panthers are two and a half point favorites and I just look at that and I say you got the wrong team as a two and a half point favorite. And, and this is one of the realities I think the betting public, it didn't quite sink in.


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[Assistant] That the Panthers are currently sinking, based upon... 7 out of 9 losing. Halfway through...


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[Assistant] Halfway through their bye week, we find out there are offensive coordinators out the door. I just think there's a hell of a story to be told behind that curtain.


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[Assistant] Ravens at the Browns. This is the Browns bi-week sandwich where the meat is a Sunday off and the bread is Ravens and Ravens and the Browns this time favorite two and a half points over under a 42. First time Lamar Jackson is an underdog against the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Do the Browns make the most of their extra time to reverse the result that we saw on Sunday Night Football a week and a half ago, Chris?


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[Assistant] I got 1916, same thought, you know desperation counts for something this time of year. The Ravens offense is just not generating the way that it used to. And you can only take so many hits.


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[Assistant] From an injury standpoint until it reaches critical mass. To the extent that Marlon Humphrey's absence actually was a factor


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[Assistant] In John Harbaugh's decision to go for two instead of play for overtime, that tells you what their concern level is. Now, if any coach can overcome it, it's Harbaugh, but I just think we're asking too much, especially when you consider that on the same day that the Ravens were in the hard fought battle with Pittsburgh, the Browns were doing nothing other than refining


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[Assistant] Over, under, lowest of the week. Do the Seahawks get to five and eight, Chris?