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[Assistant] You know, he could do that. Now, he couldn't sit there and lay into a fastball like Dan Marino or Brett Favre could and throw 105 mile per hour fastball over the middle, you know, the way they could. Now, he could throw it 101 or 100, you know what I'm trying to say? He could still throw it really hard.


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[Assistant] But the thing that, I guess the best way to describe this is kind of like launch angles.


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[Assistant] Right? And Dan Marino is one of the perfect guys to really talk about. Dan Marino, we know, quick release, had incredible arm speed, and that led to, you know, just SHOOOM! Mark Duper and Mark Clayton and lasers all over the field. But...


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[Assistant] Right. We would have done it. But to be able to get into these type of positions, right? Like anybody go out there and watch the Hail Mary from Aaron Rodgers against your Detroit Lions, you know, from a few years back on that Thursday night game, his body, I mean, his upper body is almost


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[Assistant] Like horizontal to the roof of the stadium. And then he has an arm that's really flexible. So all of that he can delay it and launch it up on a, on a, on a launch angle.


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[Assistant] That a guy like Dan Marino's not capable of doing, not because he doesn't have a great arm, it's the rest of his body that can't load up and create that type of long distance power.


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[Assistant] Right, right, flexibility, flexibility in your waist, your shoulder, your arm, you know, the torque you can create with the opposites between your lower and half, the lower half and your upper half. And then also,


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[Assistant] You know, having your leg, your back leg in the proper position to be able to use that to launch, launch even more power into it.


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[Assistant] You know, to people out there, but yeah, it's, it's, it's weird because like, let's just say Dan Marino.


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[Assistant] He could throw anything 30 yards and shorter, harder than Randall Cunningham.


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[Assistant] But he can't, but like Dan Marino maxed out at like 52, 53 yards when he threw a deep ball.


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[Assistant] And then there's Randall Cunningham who could throw the ball 78, not, you know, 80 yards almost, yet he couldn't create the same type of power on those 15, 20 yard outs that a Dan Marino could. So it is about flexibility, levers, all those types of things play into it, especially the deep ball throwing.


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[Assistant] I would probably take the Dan Marino route. I just think it's more...


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[Assistant] You know, relative to what you'll have to do on a consistent basis rather than...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's cool to throw at 80 yards and obviously you have a strong arm, but it's very rare you have to really launch a ball like that in an NFL game and use max power. I mean, it almost never happened to me within the real


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[Assistant] You know, other than a Hail Mary or anything like that, so.


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[Assistant] It, it's very rare that you have to do that other than a few circumstances and, uh, you know, we've seen some guys be able to do it at a special level. But that's where Mahomes and Allen...


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[Assistant] Would be really interesting to me because they both have that limberness and that flexibility and that power and all of that.


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[Assistant] To launch the ball far and high and, and, and put it in a trajectory angle that, you know, a lot of quarterbacks won't be able to replicate. I hope that explains it. It's a hard one.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know if he knows or especially at that time, maybe some of the proper mechanics.


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[Assistant] To control the ball and also throw it really hard. See, that's where the really gifted ones are. That's where Mahomes and Josh Allen, Rogers and Brett Favre and John Elway, you guys, they can throw the ball as hard as they want.


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[Assistant] And the room for error, you know, only expands a little bit. Where you just go, oh man, you know, usually they hit the bullseye, but now they're throwing it as hard as they can, now they're missing the bullseye by an inch or two.


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[Assistant] And, you know, there's some guys out there that when you do that, they fall apart completely. Where you go, oh man, that guy's a pretty good thrower. And then all of a sudden he's got to like, throw one to a tight window and you go, oh my gosh, the ball, you know, exploded on him because he loses control of it and he can't piece it all together.


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[Assistant] You know, and also it could be misleading sometimes too because sometimes guys will go away from what their normal motion is just to throw it hard, right? To where you go, okay, yeaah, he threw it hard, but does he throw it like that in a regular game?


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[Assistant] And, you know, there are going to be some of those guys too. Now, Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield, no, they're the guys that they can throw it as hard as they want whenever they want, and they're not going to lose control of the football.


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[Assistant] Let's see. So, Mahomes, Watson, Trubisky, uhm, who else am I? Just give me some other names that I need to be in this conversation.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna bet you Davis Webb was probably up there. Am I right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they just, they didn't get it yet. And Deshaun Watson, that was one of the knocks for me coming out of Clemson was, you know, man, guys are so wide open. He never really has to make a big time, like, ooh, I got to squeeze this in there to tight coverage. I've had this conversation with Deshaun. He basically got to training camp and realized like, oh,


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[Assistant] Wait, this is, I have to throw it like that to get this completion? Okay, I can do that. I just never had to do it. So, you know, and that shows you how gifted he is. And you know, there's a difference here too. It's a great conversation, even with the Davis web thing. Yeah, he could throw it hard. He had a real long and deliberate delivery and all that. Great. See my homes.


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[Assistant] Could throw the ball that hard with very little effort and probably just about any delivery and didn't need to be make it perfect every time and load up the way. You know, that's another part of this conversation too. Yeah, it's great if you could throw it hard.


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[Assistant] But, can you throw it hard in a compact, concise manner? Not to one where we're going,


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[Assistant] Or, you know, with people around them and they can't load up all the way and still make, oh my gosh, that was a fastball and he barely had any room to orchestrate there.


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[Assistant] That's why my homes and the Rogers and guys like that are special because they can, they can do that no matter what.


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[Assistant] I really don't, and I don't even, I think, I don't even remember what I got at the combine. I wanna say I was like around 58, somewhere in there.


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[Assistant] Uh, which would have been disappointing. Listen, I don't think I'm Josh Allen or anything like that.


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[Assistant] And be the greatest talker ever. But when we say action and start recording and put a mic in front of you, can you still talk clearly and be great then, right? And not everybody can always do that. That's why you're Ahmed Fareed.


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[Assistant] I think I broke the radar gun and they just were like, not applicable, we're not sure.


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[Assistant] Well, there's, there's so many. I, I of course loved anything aggressive or pushing the ball down the field. I'm not going to sit here and tell you like, oh, the four yard slant route with the guy in the flat at two yards is my favorite play. I mean, no, certainly not.


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[Assistant] It can be very hard. It definitely is. It's hard to dictate the speed in which they're running, their running backs, they can take some weird angles at times.


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[Assistant] Uh, so it is not as easy as it looks sometimes. But, you know, I loved anything play action. We had a play called, like, Pass 97 Power X Special. And this was a play action pass where Joey Galway and I had to read it on the run.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna be able to beat them. Let me put the brakes on.


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[Assistant] And run a basically like a 22 to 24 yard curl route. I love that play. That was one of my favorites. We had a lot of different ways to do it. Uh, and really a lot of the times it was a total sellout for the run and just a one man route or maybe just Joey Galloway and like the tight end in the flat.


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[Assistant] But I love that because it led to a lot of big plays and it was aggressive. But I'm like, if I had to get into a true concept, Ahmed,


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[Assistant] Uh, we had a play in New England, and New England's different than most teams, as I told you before. Their plays are, more times than not, all purpose. You know, John Gruden would run plays where we would always call two plays in the huddle, or if we didn't call two plays in the huddle,


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[Assistant] New England just goes, no, we got these plays. We think they're good. You know, we've thought about it and taught it the right way to where it, there, there should be somebody open against every coverage. Somebody should be open.


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[Assistant] And it was called 64 sticks, gun trips right, 64 sticks.


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[Assistant] And basically, the single receiver to my left would run a 20-yard comeback. So you drop back.


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[Assistant] And you'd look at your, you know, come back, okay. And if he wasn't there, there was a deep cross by the tight end route.


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[Assistant] The tight end would run like a 22 yard crossing route. So there you are, you're looking to your left for the comeback.


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[Assistant] Oh wait, he's not open. Okay, now let me just look a little bit down the middle of the field because now my tight end is coming into my vision, right? I'm not having to like flip all the way across the field and not, and throw it where I can't see it. Anything you want to say or ask so far before I keep blabbering here? No, that's good. Okay, good. So, yes, so you look at that. We're in the middle of a play.


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[Assistant] The pass rush is getting here. So you look to your left with that comeback. Now you got the deep cross coming as your number two guy. And then, okay, that's not there.


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[Assistant] Now the slot receiver to your right, you know, there's three receivers to your right. There's the tight end, the receiver, and the receiver. So the tight end right in that deep cross.


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[Assistant] Now like the Wes Welker, the Julian Edelman would run what they called like a jiggle route. They called it a jiggle route because it was 12 yards and he would run straight across. So now just think about that. You're going.


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[Assistant] Wait, come back. Deep cross. Oh wait, here comes another crosser right into my vision. So you're not having to read a whole lot, and you're being able to continually to see the picture, not just flip it aside going, where is everybody? Let me figure it out real quick.


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[Assistant] And he had a rule that jiggle route where if it was two man,


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[Assistant] And two man, you know, they know there's a safety deep and now it's man to man coverage underneath. Well, two man, he could, he had the option of going on the in cut and replacing. Okay, I'm getting two in the weeds there, but this is just my favorite play. So come back, deep cross or jiggle route.


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[Assistant] And then, there was a 20 yard comeback, 25 yard comeback on the way opposite side. Just in case like, whoa, if you have enough time.


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[Assistant] It's a long route. He'll be there about the time you get there after going through the first three reads or at the very least at the pockets collapsing, you know, you have somewhere over there to throw the ball out of bounds. You could throw a high and far over that receivers head and you won't get intentional grounding. That was one of my favorite plays. I was a big fan of, uh, 64 sticks.


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[Assistant] Exactly, you're just playing. Exactly. That, that, that's the beauty of the New England offense. So yes, Brady.


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[Assistant] He of course was paying attention to coverages, but if he did get fooled...


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[Assistant] It wasn't like, oh crap, I'm on the wrong side of the field here, or...


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[Assistant] Wait, you know, I gotta go over to this guy because coach said I'm fooled and they're playing this coverage, I need to go look at this guy. No, the read stayed the same all the time and even when Brady, let's say, knew, oh, I'm not gonna have that comeback to my left, my first read.


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[Assistant] He still would have been taught to look at it and give it time to move the coverage over there because you know you're going to have two guys coming that way.


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[Assistant] To where we would like you to look at that guy to open that window for the other two guys that are coming over into that direction. And yes, like you said, that's the perfect way to put it.


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[Assistant] It just lets you play. It doesn't make you overthink and worry about, oh, did I see the right coverage and do all of those type of things? And, uh, it's part of, you know, when you have Brady who's smart and an awesome system that goes with it and a guy who can, you know, hit the bullseye more times than not, that's when you have a, an awesome thing going like New England did.


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[Assistant] Looky. Right. Yeaah. I know. You know, New England, as you just, I just told you. Right?


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[Assistant] Would be, gun trips, right? 64 sticks. That was the word. Now, within that,


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[Assistant] There was a learning because you had to learn what sticks meant, right? So.


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[Assistant] Alright, and that's kind of the genius of it. You know, with Gruden's offense...


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[Assistant] Every guy, you know, x stick, every guy gets a tag, which makes it a lot of language. And that's where it's a little different. You know, New England, I've said this before, one of their big plays in the red zone is 72 pearl smash wheel.


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[Assistant] You know, what does pearl mean? Well, this is what New England does. Pearl means post and curl.


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[Assistant] And they combine it. So now, if you ever heard the word pearl, you go, oh wait, the inside guy's got the post, the outside guy got the curl. No matter what the formation is, you know it that way. And in Gruden's offense, no, it would be a few more words that describe those type of things.


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[Assistant] Gosh, I'm in very little communication. I probably, I probably talk to them more.


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[Assistant] In my few conversations leading up to me getting the job, then I did.


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[Assistant] In my full like 18 or 19 months there working there after that, right?


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[Assistant] No, no doubt about it. Yes. Because, you know.


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[Assistant] I was just a, you know, a do it boy. What's the word I want to say? A peon? What's that word they call, like, you know, insignificant idiot, right?


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[Assistant] But then my command chain, I mean, that's the way it works. It's New England. There's a command chain.


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[Assistant] And I had to listen to George Gotsy because he was kind of in my position before me and then he's listening to Chad O'Shea who's the receiver coach and telling him and Chad O'Shea is listening to Josh McDaniels and Josh McDaniels is listening to Bill Belichick so


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[Assistant] Bill doesn't want to hear from me and uh, nor did he, you know, but gosh, where did I, where do I even start? I mean, there's so many things that are so impressive and next level about New England.


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[Assistant] One of the things I'll always say that will always stick out to me is I had a sign upstairs in my dungeon area in the front office in New England that said, uh,


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[Assistant] We are not just collecting players, we are building a team.


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[Assistant] They're not like, oh, that's the best player available. We'll take him. We'll draft him. Yeah. Well, coach, you have, you know, 12 corners that were the best player available. And you know, he realizes, oh, that's stupid.


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[Assistant] So they're in about building a team, what fits that scheme, what's the personnel, I mean, what's the personality of that person to fit their scheme and their, and the personality of the organization and coaches. So that would be the one thing, but I think the biggest thing more than anything on it is not just like one word. It's just the daily grind and.


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[Assistant] Humbleness and just put your head down and work environment there.


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[Assistant] That to me just blows the rest of football, the rest of the NFL out of the water. You know. Right. If most teams win six games in a row.


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[Assistant] Monday and Tuesday can be kind of loose in a football facility. In New England, you could win ten in a row.


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[Assistant] And you come in on Monday, Tuesday and you're like, wait, have we won 10 in a row or lost in a row? What the fuck is going on here?


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[Assistant] Exactly right. So, you know, that's I think the thing that will always jump out to me. It's just the continued grind, attention to detail, and never letting like the focus


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[Assistant] Get too far down the road, always keeping it right where it needed to be. Uh, so I know I don't mean to be a cop out with that answer, but that's really the biggest thing that I'll always remember about being there.


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[Assistant] No, he's been a little unfortunate that way, you know. I'm trying to think too, just like,


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[Assistant] Alright, so last year was Lamar, 2018 was Mahomes.


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[Assistant] You know, when I look at it, I just think really any of the last three years were MVP caliber football by Russell Wilson. Yea, he's been unfortunate.


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[Assistant] You know, he had really awesome years where two guys had like transcendent


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[Assistant] You know, type years in Lamar and my homes and then with the Brady thing.


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[Assistant] That was, let's see, that wasn't the year he lost. He didn't lose the four games that year, but


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[Assistant] You know, his popularity was sky high that year. That was after the comeback against the Falcons. I think he had like, what, 28 interceptions and 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions that year in 27, something like that, 2017.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well, and again, you know, Russell plays on a team and offense that's not quarterback friendly.


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[Assistant] And a lot of is asked, a lot is asked of him to just do it by himself. You've heard me argue many, many times. So, uh, yeaah, he's just been unlucky. He really has.


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[Assistant] You know, as far as MVP is considered, you know, yeaah, let's look at some of the, I'd love to dive back into some of these stats. Like Russell Wilson, I know, but I can't give the specifics.


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[Assistant] Is one of the league leaders the last four or five years in percentage of yards of his team?


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[Assistant] That he, you know, yards touchdowns. I remember Collinsworth on NBC, you know, NBC Sunday Night Football showed it one night because I had been saying, like, he's a one-man band. He does it all himself.


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[Assistant] I remember then on a, like a Sunday night game, they, they had a one man band graphic and he was responsible for, you know, the most touchdowns on his team compared to anybody in football, you know, the percentage of yards he produces on a weekly basis compared to the rest of football. That's where he's special.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, he's MVP caliber player. I'm not sure if he ever gets it though until they open up the offense and really play through him as we discussed a few times here.


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[Assistant] through the spring instead of like, you know, what we say, play the defense run game and then, oh, Russell, there's seven minutes left in the game and we need two touchdowns in these last seven minutes. Can you deliver?


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[Assistant] Uh, and more times than not, he does, and more times than not, that's when he gets a lot of his stats too, which is not fair either.


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[Assistant] I'm feeling great. I really am. I think as every day goes by here, I feel better and better about it. You know, the teams seem to have good protocols set in place. No, we're not hearing about outbreaks through teams or anything like that. And I know they're still being careful and everything like that, you know, but from what I've heard, and I said this today on PFT,


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[Assistant] A few of my coach friends and people like that that I text with.


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[Assistant] You know, their, their, their kind of thing is like, man, every day is a battle with corona, cause there's just, you know, it's nothing smooth, right?


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[Assistant] You know, so those are the issues, but I think they feel good about all the protocols in place. And then the one thing that's been like,


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[Assistant] Uh, repeatedly said to me is, the players are, they're taking a lot of responsibility.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I think that's going to be the best way to make this keep going. Of course is be safe and do all the things when you leave the field, but these veterans are going to have to stay in the ears of these young guys and make them feel a little uncomfortable if they're the ones to mess up.


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[Assistant] I was on FaceTime with a head coach and an offensive coordinator the other day on Friday or Saturday and


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, they're wearing masks, and you can't hear the right way, and you're like, what? You know, it's just, yeaah, I'm sure guys are getting chuckled instead of seeing, like, Bruce Arians come in, like, he's like some mad scientist with all that stuff on, but, you know.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be interesting. It's evened out the competitive balance a little bit to me.


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[Assistant] You know, I think about the PGA Championship yesterday with a young kid, 23 years old, he just wins that.


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[Assistant] Does that happen? That there's 200,000 screaming fans there? Right. I don't know. You know?


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[Assistant] And then, you know, he loves it and rises the occasion and yet can block them out and still do things the right way. That's the greatness of Lebron James. Who the hell gives a shit about that in the Disney bubble? There's nothing to worry about that. So now the guy who's nervous and listening to every little thing from the crowd and all those things.


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[Assistant] He can play free. I just think it's an interesting thing to watch for here. You know, like we know Brady can block anything out. Who are the quarterbacks that can't block things out?


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[Assistant] You know, maybe they have a little bit better of a year than we expect because...


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[Assistant] There's not that, hey, you know, you suck, you suck, you miss this guy, like you don't have to hear that.


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[Assistant] Now the cardinals are the big question mark. And, and, and as much as I think they're going to be improved and more fun to watch,


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not sitting here thinking they're a playoff team this year yet.


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[Assistant] You know, my, my, our buddy Florio thinks they're going to the playoffs this year.


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[Assistant] I just don't think, I think they're two years away. I think they're going to be competitive and better, but now you go to the AFC West, okay.


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[Assistant] You know, we know the Chiefs. Chiefs are goin'. You're right.


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[Assistant] Who they're playing this year. They're playing the NFC, NFC South.


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[Assistant] I know, I know, it is all tough. Listen, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna say I would be more surprised at the AFC West.


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[Assistant] Your logic makes a lot of sense. I'm gonna just go with, I'm not saying I know this, I mean this is just, I'm gonna go with the logic of,


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[Assistant] And I just gotta wait for Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury to join the party.


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[Assistant] Where in the AFC West, man, there's a lot I like. I mean, a lot. I mean, but okay. It's only Drew Locks. He's only played, you know.


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[Assistant] A few games. It's his second year. They got a lot of young guys on that team.


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[Assistant] You know, the Chargers, this post-Philip Rivers era.


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[Assistant] I do. Yes. Uhm, I don't know what just happened here. Hold on one second here. I don't know what just happened with my...


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[Assistant] Uh, Ryan, I, I, first off, thanks for the compliment. You the man. And if, if your questions don't get answered, just start writing Pete D and start giving the middle finger emoji. Correct. And that'll get his attention, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well he tries to hide the people that like me. He likes to tell me the people that hate me. Uhm, but I do think Fangio is the right fit. I do. For a bunch of...


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[Assistant] You know, first off, he's got a great defensive mind. He's of course got a very calm, even keel demeanor, right? Which I think is always good for a younger football team. And I think that's what Denver would be in my eyes for right now. So yeah, and they were in need of a, a defensive mind. They got talent there.


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[Assistant] Uh, I just look at him and then, you know, it's not all about Vic Fangio, but I just look at the other aspect of Pat Shermer along with Mike Munchek on the offensive side of the ball. And I just think collectively that's a good team of guys.


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[Assistant] That I believe in and I think are good head coaches, I mean good coaches, you know, you say what you want about Pat Shermer, the head coach, I know.


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[Assistant] But Pat Sherman, the off-offense coordinator, is pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] Uh, and yeaah, I think Vic Pangeo is the type of guy to lead this team, no doubt.


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[Assistant] You know, an NFL locker room, as compared to society,


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[Assistant] It's about as good as blending cultures and backgrounds and everything together as you're going to get here in America right now. So I think that's what he was trying to say, not to say that, you know, I mean, listen, we know there's obviously some, some racism in any locker room. You always have.


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[Assistant] A guy or two where you're like, damn, I don't know if he fits in with us or whatever the hell that guy really thinks privately, but, uh, I understood what he was trying to say and he is the kind of guy that'll learn from it.


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[Assistant] I do. The one thing, and listen, Cliff Kingsbury was a big question mark for me going into 2019. Because I just wondered, did that air raid offense have enough to it to be successful in the NFL? And my answer to that question would be, no, probably it does not.


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[Assistant] But, Cliff Kingsbury is smart enough and realized that to where he started running different concepts and different ideas. I mean, he's a smart guy. So he, he's watching Kyle Shanahan's offense and Joshua Daniels and going,


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[Assistant] Damn, I don't have that play in my playbook. Let me steal that. Cause that looks like an easy 10 yard completion every time. So he did a really good job of that. I don't think the offense is going to look a lot different though. Ultimately, you know, listen, I was in, I was encouraged.


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[Assistant] That, you know, what were they in? What are they, they were in shotgun? Were they, is it 82% of the time?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm shocked it wasn't 98% of the time. 82% of the time was like, whoa.


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[Assistant] He knows how to get underneath the center and run a play like that on the offensive side of the ball. So that was encouraging to me, but no, I don't think.


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[Assistant] The league is going to catch on to him. You know, I don't because I think he will continue to evolve and now he's starting to get the personnel.


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[Assistant] That makes sense for his scheme to where, okay, even if you do catch on, my players are good enough here too to where you're still not going to be able to just completely stop us. You know, it's, it's, they're doing a different style.


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[Assistant] You know, I said today on the show them in Kansas City are about the only two teams in football that have just gone.


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[Assistant] Fuck underneath the center. Fuck the run game. We're dropping back to throw the ball. See if he can stop us.


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[Assistant] And it's where the rest of the league is. I'm almost going in the opposite direction. It's going, let's pull guards. Let's get a full back in there. Let's play that style of football. But with Arizona, it makes sense.


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[Assistant] And, you know, within the offense, the receivers they have, the running back they have, and then the quarterback they have spread the field.


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[Assistant] Give this guy lanes to throw. Give this guy area to run and scramble and do all those things.


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[Assistant] They'll use the screen game as part of the run game. He's an unbelievable screen game thrower. He's got one of the quickest releases in football, strong arm. So, you know, I think their offense will continue to go upwards all the way here.


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[Assistant] They have some of their bread and brother run plays, right? Where they're like, oh, you know, we've schemed up this run game design for this defense this week.


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[Assistant] They'll favor putting J.K. Dobbins in the game for those type of plays because I think they'll realize he could probably capitalize on more


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[Assistant] Then maybe a Mark Ingram. And don't get me wrong, I'm a big Mark Ingram fan. He's a sledgehammer. Nobody hits the hole as hard as Mark Ingram does in football. But at the same time, Mark Ingram's not the same kind of type of guy that, oh wait, there's an alley.


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[Assistant] Oh, there he goes. Oh, nine yard gain for Mark Ingram.


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[Assistant] That's where he's gonna be special. So, they'll still do a good job of rotating the backs. Ingram will be the trustworthy one. Probably more the short yardage guy. Oh, it's the fourth quarter and we're up by four. We're trying to run the clock out. That'll be all Ingram.


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[Assistant] But when it gets into like, oh, special, let's try to hit a home run, I think they'll favor Dobbins there. And there's, don't overdo it with Dobbins. Let's make him last. You got all these running backs.


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[Assistant] Let's like, let's make his career in Baltimore more than two or three years. Let's make it five or six. Use Gus Edwards, use Mark Ingram, use some of those other guys to where you can continue this stable of good running backs around Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] That's the me where you can really expose people big time. So, you know, that's why I love, uh,


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[Assistant] Because, you know, they have the run game. It's well thought out. They have a zillion play action passes off it. And then of course, if they get down by 10 or 12, they can get into that. Oh, we got 99% pass plays here and start dishing around that way. Um, no, the, what the Ravens do.


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[Assistant] You know, you need a special quarterback like Lamar Jackson type to do that.


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[Assistant] Uh, certainly, and, and they have that, and they've, they've built something special there where scheme and personnel really fit perfectly.


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[Assistant] I don't care as much as I want my buddy to win a Super Bowl and the 49ers and Kyle and all that. I'm not getting another tattoo that's related to him, okay? That's not happening.


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[Assistant] For me to get another tattoo, I would have to be working for an NFL franchise, and then we're gonna have to win a Super Bowl while I'm working there.


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[Assistant] Then I'd probably get tatted up. That, that I could probably do.


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[Assistant] I got my buddies from college and a few of their initials as you know.


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[Assistant] I got my wife and kids here on my wrist, alright?


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[Assistant] I mean, after that, right now, tattoos, I mean,


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[Assistant] Maybe I'll get mom and dad on my chest.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I do feel like I've cheated them, that I have friends from college on my body, yet my mom and father aren't on there.


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[Assistant] That would probably be the next, the next thing I get if I did, if I did get one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know about that. We'll see. I don't know. I mean, I'm hoping, uh, you know, our man, uh, you know, he lives down in Tampa. I used to see him a lot. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's happening in the next year or two if not, sorry buddy, but I do think you could be like a very fun, exciting team to watch this year. I do. Between those two receivers, that tight end, two running backs you got.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm kind of like excited to see what Detroit can do on the offensive side of the ball this year. Their defense has some question marks. I think they're going to be better, but you're not getting to the Super Bowl quite yet, buddy.


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[Assistant] I'm certainly not opposed to it. I mean, again, I'm not, it's not something where I'm like, oh, I'd like to be in the league in the next four or five years or anything like that. I'm just, I'm enjoying doing this. I do love, I love doing PFT.


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[Assistant] I love talking to you and doing the podcast, diving into football.


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[Assistant] You know, being around the family more than I would be if I was being a coach, certainly. So those are all the positives. But yeah, I'm not ruling that out. You know, I think I'll have some chances hopefully as time goes on to maybe do that. I think coaching.


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[Assistant] It's probably a no, like that's not gonna happen. I don't, I don't think so because to go back to coaching.


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[Assistant] I'm going to have to start back at probably a low position, you know, position coach.


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[Assistant] And then work my way up the totem pole, you know, front office. I think that would probably be more realistic at this point in time than, than coaching. You know, coaching is one of those things you got to continue to stay in it and grind and continue to learn and, and learn more and more about putting game plans together and things like that. And you know, I've missed that to where I'd have to go back and,


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, it would have to be, you know, director of pro personnel, GM, I mean something like that. I'm not going back to like, uh, you know, put numbers in the computer.


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[Assistant] Where I felt like, okay, it's a pretty high ranking job within a front office.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think I had him at number four. Was he that high?


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[Assistant] And I would think that he'd be somewhere right around that still four, five, six, seven. You know, uh, yeah. You know, between him.


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[Assistant] You know, Breeze and Brady who were at 9 and 10, you know, two years ago, there was three open spots in the top 10.


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[Assistant] You know, which led to, you know, of course, Cam Newton and we had some younger guys get in there as well, but


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, again, I think Andrew Luckhead,


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'd have a hard time thinking he's outside of that. He's just so big. He's such a good athlete.


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[Assistant] Such a great deep ball thrower. Uh, he's another guy, he'd be a great guy, again.


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[Assistant] Couldn't necessarily impress you with like, whoa, that was a laser with a 20 yard outroute.


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[Assistant] Right? It's funny that way, but yeaah, I think he'd be dancing around that top five, Ahmed.


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[Assistant] I'd have to go Lamar Jackson right now. I'd have to go Lamar.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's really tough, and you know, it's hard.


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[Assistant] Of course that's always about support system and I can't always picture myself


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[Assistant] You know, running the offense of Lamar Jackson, that, that sometimes is a detractor to me because I just don't have that knowledge of that offense all the time and certainly did not have that skill set.


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[Assistant] But, but nonetheless, Lamar is just about to, I mean, start this sharp incline to this great career. And I think it's safe to say that Andrew Luck was a little bit on a plateau, if not maybe even starting the downhill slope of his career, something around there.


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[Assistant] Like, right now, and we're just saying Andrew Luck's been at them all for a year. I'm going with Carson Wentz. I'm going Carson Wentz.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna disrespect any of Matt Ryan's or those guys when they've been playing and one guy took a year off. Andrew Luck's talent is better.


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[Assistant] But as we sit here this second, I would probably just give him the edge.


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[Assistant] So, let's see, we got Dak there, then who do we got coming after that?


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[Assistant] I don't think Andrew Luck would come back and be like, ooh.


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[Assistant] I'm Captain Andrew. I forgot how to throw the football and call a play and read a defense. I don't think he's that far removed. So I don't think it would be a big drop off.


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[Assistant] The Nick Bowles thing is fascinating. I mean, it is. It's one year, Chip Kelly's first year of his career at a playoff run and


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[Assistant] You know, you talk to a lot of people and I even hear players saying, oh, he's better than Carson Wentz. And I want to be like, no, he's not.


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[Assistant] He's not, you're just letting a three game run totally influence your brain.


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[Assistant] First off, I don't think it's a crazy thought. I don't. I think it's a, it's a, it's a legitimate thought. You know, the, the big thing is, Trubisky's physical ability is better than Nick Fultz.


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[Assistant] You know, he's got a stronger arm. He's a better athlete. He's got quicker feet and all that.


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[Assistant] But, he just doesn't know how to play the position the way Nick Foles does.


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[Assistant] And he's not the consistent thrower that Nick Foles is. You know, Foles has a good arm, it's not great.


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[Assistant] But he's great in the pocket with people around him. He's got great anticipation and he's got, you know, great...


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[Assistant] You know, like, is it crazy to think that? No, but I gotta see some of it first to be able to be like, oh, I think that can happen.


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[Assistant] You know, no, right now Mitchell Trubisky is one of those guys where it's like...


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[Assistant] Oh, he's open? Okay, there's the hole, I'm gonna throw it in the hole. Nick Foles is like, ooh, wait.


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[Assistant] He's not in the hole yet, but I see the hole and he's gonna be open. Let me just throw it up in there into that hole and boom, oh, completion.


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[Assistant] And that's where he's nuanced and kind of special that way. And Trubisky has none of that, let alone sometimes even when it's wide open, he can miss the throw.


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[Assistant] Uh, and hopefully he's cleaned that up and, and you know, can make things competitive or win his own job back.


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[Assistant] The ability is there, yep, sometimes you're not mature enough mentally to put it all together like you're saying to go like, wait, I get it now, damn, I wish I could go back two years ago and


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[Assistant] You know, uh, yeaah, there's, those are all aspects of...


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[Assistant] You know, being an athlete and, and, uh, I had something else I was going to add to that and I lost my thought about where I was going to go with that. But you know, yeah, I mean.


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[Assistant] Hopefully he can get that. Oh, here's where I was going to go with it. Also, the other thing that helps those type of things is to have a system and a support system around you to build you into that person. Tom Brady didn't go to New England and was like, Hey Bill, this is Tampa two. This is cover two. This is cover three. I'll throw to this guy. They build him into Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] They went, okay, hey, Tom, just get us in the right run play. You know, just get us out of the huddle. Hey, Tom.


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[Assistant] Here, just read this. Have you read this guy?


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[Assistant] Hit that guy and all of a sudden then you can start adding more onto the plate and more onto the plate and more onto the plate. And then the player starts to grow and realize more and more things he can do too because he gets comfortable and the coaches have, you know, what do I want to say, accentuated his growth, his belief in self, all of those things.


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[Assistant] And that's where people miss out on this sometimes. You know, that's where I argue about, you know,


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[Assistant] Sometimes there's not a big difference between a guy we look at as the greatest quarterback of all time and the guy we look at as the 10th greatest quarterback of all time. I want to go, no, there's no difference. One just had a great system in place to make you think he was that one number one quarterback and the other guy didn't have shit to help him out. And that's why you think he's the 10th best quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, I could launch it, I could throw it hard, I could throw it sidearm, I could do all those type of things. You know, uh, I think...


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[Assistant] I had a look at weaknesses. There's two things that I think that if I could go back in time and change my game a little bit, I would go.


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[Assistant] Quicker release, like shorten my motion up, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that would be the first thing I would go, ooh, I need to change that aspect of my game. Now back in that time, the quick pass game, the screams, all those things, they weren't in vogue. People weren't obsessed with the quick release as much as they are now.


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[Assistant] Uh, but nonetheless, mine still even then could have been quicker. And then, you know, I think the other thing is, I wish I would have...


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[Assistant] Scrambled more, moved around the pocket more.


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[Assistant] You know, I was a little bit of a, I think a better athlete than maybe I even gave myself credit board times.


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[Assistant] But I also got a little into like, oh, I'm big and strong. I'm just going to sit in here in the pocket and throw the ball and screw who's around me.


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[Assistant] And it just, unless you have a great offensive line and a great support system, it's just, it's not realistic this day in the age of the NFL, or even my day in the age of the NFL.


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[Assistant] I wish I would have moved around the pocket and hopped around and manipulated the pocket a little bit more like we see quarterbacks of today doing a whole lot more. I think those are the two things that jump out to me.


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[Assistant] I found myself being a robot in that Gruden offense sometimes because there's so much on you mentally and there's so much you're doing.


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[Assistant] You're going, okay, you taught me to do this, this, this, this, and this. Okay, check, I did it, did, did, did, alright. Oh wait, but I forgot to just play football.


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[Assistant] And like, wait, there's a guy coming at me. Forget what coach said. I gotta make him miss and make another play or do that. And that to me again,


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[Assistant] You know, they're in due, let the players play.


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[Assistant] Don't over coach at practice. We've coached them in the meeting rooms. Now let them go out and play. And when we get back in the meeting room, we'll coach them mistakes then. But let's not have them out here at practice second guessing themselves and looking at the sideline going like, did I do it right coach? Is that right? Or am I, you know?


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and that was always big. Like, Bill would butt in at times with the coaches and be like, let them play!


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[Assistant] You know, really I'm a plain cheese guy most of the time. Every now and then a pepperoni or maybe a bacon on top. Okay? Okay. Like that's living.


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[Assistant] In Soho, down in New York City. That's like my go-to. Like literally had driven there with my wife.


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[Assistant] May have smoked a daddy cigar, we order a pizza and walk to a park and just sit there and eat the pizza, okay? I mean, to me that's good living right there. That's real good living. But I'm, I'm a thin crust, plain cheese guy most of the time.


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[Assistant] Tossin' the dough and makin' his own special sauce and doin' that, alright? That, that, you can't beat that. I'm sorry, Domino's and Pizza Hut don't have that recipe. So stop.


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[Assistant] I don't go to Texas and eat some crappy chain barbecue place, right? Like you wouldn't do that. Why would I go to Texas?


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[Assistant] That's alright. Well, when you're that age, who cares? I mean, when you're in high school and you're playing sports, it does 20 piece chicken and nugget, two large french fries and a chocolate shake. I mean, it might as well been a vegan protein shake at that age. It didn't even matter.


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[Assistant] I love the Peter, the Peter King training camp tour. I mean, I love it.


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[Assistant] Every year you learn little nuances about teams that you might have not thought of or you start to get a feel for the vibe in that building and what they think of themselves and all those types of things.


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[Assistant] So, you know, yeaah, I'm glad. He's getting on the road next week. I know he's got like Tampa, Atlanta, and a few teams down south coming up, which I'll be pumped to see, and I'm glad he's getting to get back out on the, uh, the tour. I'm not going with him. Last year I got to go with him a little bit, and it was quite the experience, let me tell you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it is. It's great conversation. I do love the questions. It does. It makes me think of things that I might not, you know, normally think of just sitting here. And I want, you know, I think we might have hit on something a little. We got into the little nuances of X's and O's today. And because there's no preseason football and I won't be doing that, that's, hey,


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[Assistant] To the homies out there, anybody listening to the pod, send in questions about schemes, certain plays, whatever it may be. I would love to break it down. I'm bored. I need something to watch anyways. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that could be something we could maybe stumble upon here over the next month and maybe, uh, you know, throw some knowledge out to the listeners of the podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure. You could do that. You could ask me about a specific play that happened during the year. I'll go back and watch the film and give a breakdown. I mean, any of those things, I welcome it. I'm a frustrated coach that loves to break those kind of things down.


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[Assistant] Alright baby, we'll be back on Thursday. I think you're back in the fold. I hope you are.


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[Assistant] You know what time it is. It's time for me and Ahmed to...


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[Assistant] Doing great. Fun weekend of watching the draft. It went very well with the gray and rainy weather that we normally have here in Connecticut. So it was nice to just watch the draft.


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[Assistant] Before we get into the picks, the way the draft was presented has been getting as much reaction, I feel like, as the actual selections a day or two after. What did you think of seeing all the GMs and coaches at their houses and just the way the whole thing was put together?


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[Assistant] Really enjoyable to see all the coaches and GMs around their families as they came in and out of the pictures. Took me back to a couple of the conversations I had with GMs to get ready for our conversations in the lead up to the draft. And they said, hey, whenever this normalcy comes back,


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[Assistant] My days of having my staff come to the office and be there till midnight on Monday through Friday.


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[Assistant] That's over. I've enjoyed being at home. I've been productive at home.


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[Assistant] And I think we got a little glimpse of that, a little sliver of that. All the family around there. I think the guys really enjoyed that the last couple of months, albeit for a very poor reason to be there. I think those kind of scenes are going to alter the way some of these guys conduct themselves around the office and what they require for people being around.


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[Assistant] The improved family life around the league could be a positive splinter off of an otherwise negative situation these last couple of months.


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[Assistant] So getting into the draft and as we got ready for Chris, as you pointed out, we hit every single position, uh, one or two a week and deep dives into each one of them. We thought a nice way to wrap it up here, or at least the first time we wrap it up here on this day.


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[Assistant] I want to have you pick your favorite selection from each position. I know that's not easy because you like a lot of the picks. And then after each one of your picks, I want to hit a couple of the themes as we veer off down the different ways that that position group presented us in terms of stories as the draft played out. So we're going to start with wide receiver.


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[Assistant] 37 taken, Chris. Since the draft was reduced to 7 rounds, we've never seen more than 37 receivers taken in one single year. You got a lot to pick from. Which pick was your favorite?


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[Assistant] The wide receivers and how many might go in the first three rounds because of how deep the talent pool was.


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[Assistant] Seventeen winning the first three. So I've got some team oriented themes. I wanna, I wanna go down those roads with wide receivers, but because there were so many and because it was such a big story heading into the draft, is there another second or third round guy you wanna point out before we move into some teams?


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[Assistant] One of the things I like about talking about the draft with you the last couple of years, you kind of see it like me. You're much more, uh, likely to be positive than negative. You want to see the glasses half full. And I feel the same way. I want to be excited about these picks and what these teams do. And I hear that in your voice as well.


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[Assistant] But we go back to Friday and we both felt the same way about the Green Bay Packers selecting Jordan Love in the first round quarterback to maybe someday take over for Aaron Rodgers when they could have gone with running back tight end receiver to help him more to help that team more right now. And we put a cap on that discussion by saying,


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[Assistant] Let's, let's back off for a moment and say a strength of this draft is how deep the wide receiver class is. Maybe we feel differently about what the Packers do come Monday. Maybe they give Aaron Rodgers some, some more weapons. And here we are, they still haven't taken a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I haven't thought about it that way. I mean, maybe that would have been the grown up in the room to say, Hey, you know what guys? Jordan love is a nice. Hey.


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[Assistant] 2024, that might look great out there at Lambeau Field, but what about the team that made it all the way to the NSC Championship and was clearly not on the same field?


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[Assistant] I can't believe that that actually happened. I can't believe my team didn't get better at that position.


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[Assistant] There were some teams, and I'm looking at the AFC West, that made it a priority and went and accelerated after wide receivers. In the AFC West, those teams chasing the Kansas City Chiefs went after it. How do you feel about the Broncos going receiver in the first and the second round?


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[Assistant] And you also have the Raiders took three wide receivers in the first three rounds and the Chargers, it didn't get as much attention. However, four of their six picks were used on offensive skill positions. Clearly those three other teams in the AFC West are chasing the offense and trying to keep up on the scoreboard with the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] That's exactly the way it played out in December between the Chiefs and Broncos. I don't know the exact score, but the Broncos held the Chiefs well under their average, somewhere in the mid-twenties.


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[Assistant] And all they had to score was a field goal. They didn't score a touchdown. They being the Denver Broncos the entire game. So that's not going to get it done in the way they prioritize the early, early rounds really reflects that feeling. Let's move into the offensive line.


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[Assistant] Six offensive tackles in round one, only one in round two, not as many as expected interior offensive linemen drafted. Same drill that we did for wide receivers, your favorite selection on the offensive line.


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[Assistant] I like what the Saints did too. I think they were the first team to go interior offensive line with Ruiz later in that first round. Not a sexy pick, but one that helps Drew Brees for however much longer he's there do what he does in the pocket.


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[Assistant] Because the two things that come to mind with draft philosophy, the ones we've heard for years and years, fill a need or take the best player available. Well, how about keeping a strength a strength, just as you said it. And I think more and more when I look at picks, I go to that and I applaud at home.


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[Assistant] When I see teams do that just like the Saints did there at 24 by going interior offensive line. Okay, we're warmed up now. We've got wide receivers. We've got offensive line off the board. Quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] We've got quarterbacks. 13 were selected. I'm ready to hear about any one of them that you count as your favorite pick.


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[Assistant] That's a bit of a surprise. So, we need some details here. Details on how we got your attention.


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[Assistant] And you know, I'm federally mandated to ask you about the 53rd overall pick. I'm also very curious to hear what you think about the Eagles in round two selecting Jalen Hertz.


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[Assistant] You don't like him as a quarterback to come in and have a chance to beat out Carson Wentz. I don't either. Uh, but think about it this way, just as a second round pick, late in the second round to make your offense more difficult to defend. Do you like the pick?


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[Assistant] Quickly, just because it's also a big name and you got a lot of attention over the weekend. Jake from Round 5. What do you think?


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[Assistant] It's fun, it's fun to bring up topics that get a response and I saw Jake from the Buffalo and I thought it was interesting because it is windy as hell there, it's cold as hell there, it's wet there a lot and it takes a really big powerful thrower, I mean,


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[Assistant] Certainly helps to have those qualities. Look at Josh Allen and he's such a different type of quarterback in terms of strengths than Josh Allen. It's a big difference when you line them up next to each other.


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[Assistant] Bill's made a nice move in round three, I thought, to go running back with Zach Moss. If you want to hit on that, we can. Uh, but this is how we open it up for running backs. Only one in the first round to the Chiefs. I know you love that pick. Five win in round two. Who's at the top of your list for the whole draft?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna read three other big names at running back that went into round two and you tell me, you tell me which one you like the most. DeAndre Swift, early in the second to the Lions. Cam Akers, round two to the Rams. JK Dobbins, also second round to the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Now the Ravens getting Patrick Queen, the LSU linebacker in round one and J.K. Dobbins in round two. It's a tease for what might be coming up in top five favorite teams overall drafts. I have a feeling the Ravens just might show up.


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[Assistant] On that list. Tied in, Chris, not a lot of action. It started in round two, the Bears going, Cole Comeda guy we know very well out of Notre Dame. Who comes to mind there?


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[Assistant] And the Patriots, uh, did it again. They took another side end later in the draft.


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[Assistant] They went there twice, Bill's got something in mind. The Saints taking Troutman out of date, and I kinda like that pick. I like them picking up Emmanuel Sanders, getting a talented tight end in the mid rounds, uh, and as we talked about, helping them out with the protection up the middle. So, uh, they had Drew in mind there, and I like what they did. Definitely.


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[Assistant] That is the offense. Let's go to the other side of the football and begin, uh, with edge. It's, it's the position that's most coveted in the first round. Only two win in the first, uh, young, second overall to the Redskins and chase on 20 to the Jaguars. Edge position. Who's your favorite one?


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[Assistant] I thought it was interesting that it wasn't a super popular pick in, in the first round, but in rounds two and three where you expect to get a quality contributor, 10 came off the boards in those two rounds.


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[Assistant] Another tease there, Chris, because I don't know what your top five looks like, but Joe Douglas and the Jets are going to have a home there in my one through five as we get closer to the end of our show here.


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[Assistant] Okay, cornerback. It started at three, Okuda to the Lions, all the way to Gladney at 31 to the Vikings in that trade, but six win in round one. Uh, as expected, it was the most popular position rounds one through seven. You have all kinds of ways to go that you can go here with corners. Who's your favorite?


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[Assistant] When I was looking at the second round, Chris, and going back to, to your list of top five corners and thinking about the conversation we had a couple of weeks ago about the best available on the draft. I'm not surprised you went Fulton. I thought you might go 10 before at 51, the Cowboys found Trayvon Dix.


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[Assistant] When you think about the safety position, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, who comes to mind?


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[Assistant] I wanted to ask you about that because, I mean, Bill Belichick laid out the perfect question for someone like me to ask you. So at 37.


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[Assistant] Bill Belichick says, okay, safety, could have had Grant Delpit, could have had Antoine Winfield, could have had Jeremy Chin, a prospect we both like a lot out of Southern Illinois. What do you think about him going with Duggar instead of those three guys?


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[Assistant] Are you down on the wide receivers at Limestone? They didn't show you much on tape?


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[Assistant] You can have one of those two if you'd like to talk about here with this topic, but I give you all the defensive tackles that win in the draft. Who's your favorite?


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[Assistant] Am I remembering this correctly in our mock draft? You had them in the first round, right?


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[Assistant] And we'll find out if this feeling that I have that the Cowboys had great value in rounds one, two and three with positions they needed and where they found guys as opposed to where we had them ranked. I'm anxious to see if it plays out the next few years the way I think it is. And that's like, yeah, Cowboys had a pretty good draft.


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[Assistant] Definitely. We have one position left. One left. Linebacker.


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[Assistant] I told you on Friday how much I love Patrick Queen going to the Ravens late in the first. So you can have any one of these guys as the one who comes to mind first, who counts as your favorite. What's the name?


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[Assistant] A quiet part of that excitement, I think, when I look at that Chargers defense, he doesn't get a lot of credit, not a real well-known name, but Drew Tranquil out of Notre Dame, a mid-round pick last year, had a nice rookie season, maybe not going to be a star, but you put him next to Murray, and I think that makes Murray even better.


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[Assistant] And how he makes a, a budding strength of a team with really nice young players, how he makes them probably even better or hopefully even better if you're Tom Telesco. So, uh, that brings us very well into the top five teams because maybe the Chargers will show up in your top five, but we're going to go one through five.


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[Assistant] You get your favorite. I'll point out my favorite. We'll just ping pong it back and forth until we get all the way to five. So, uh, I can tell you're enthusiastic about what a number of GMs did. So this probably wasn't easy for you to pick your favorite one, but who makes it at the top of the list?


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[Assistant] And even if you stop right there, just with the picks you talked about, it's worthy of being number one. It makes perfect sense. You didn't even get to the guards in rounds three and rounds four and Marshall Yonda retires. So it's like Baltimore just gets it. They not only end up with.


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[Assistant] Talented, productive players, uh, from Ohio State and LSU in rounds one and two. Then, you know, somebody raises their hand, probably Eric DeCostin says, you know what? We lost a future Hall of Fame guard. Let's get a couple. One of them probably can play. We'll plug them in there. They get one in round three and one in round four.


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[Assistant] And you mentioned Duvernay, the wide receiver from Texas. They also in round six took a wide out from SMU and maybe the same mentality with the guards. Hey, we'll take two, maybe one.


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[Assistant] Uh, turns out it can play. If one of those two wide receivers can be a nice quality part of the rotation for Lamar Jackson, I just like that they, even though he was the MVP last year and deserved it, they want him to be better and if they can find one young receiver to be part of that rotation, maybe the third or fourth guy, then it was a nice draft that way. So just all the way around.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it's easy to stand back and say, nice job, Eric DeCoste.


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[Assistant] My number one team is also in the AFC. It's the Indianapolis Colts. And I apologize if they're gonna show up on your list two through five, I might step onto here a little bit. Uh, but follow me here. I mean, taking a step back from just the draft, when you look at the offseason roster cutting, roster adding, all the things you do to put that, uh, that puzzle together, all with the idea in mind,


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[Assistant] We're going to be harder to beat next year than we were last year. And how can we do that? So number one, they get Philip Rivers, a big time upgrade at the quarterback spot. So you already have that. They're starting out.


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[Assistant] Maybe in the B or A range. So then they trade the number 13 pick for DeForest Buckner. So people may get excited or upset. Oh, we don't have the 13th overall pick.


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[Assistant] You've got DeForest Buckner. So before they even get to the draft, they've got Rivers, they've got Buckner. In round two, they got my favorite wide receiver in the draft in Michael Pittman, and they also get Jonathan Taylor, the running back from Wisconsin that you talked about. So, uh, if you're looking at ways, or if you look at the draft the way I do that,


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[Assistant] Did you see, it was kind of deep in Peter King's Football Morning in America article this morning. He talked about Blackman and he shared, somehow he got a hold of it, a letter that he wrote maybe in grade school about how he wanted to play in the NFL more than anything else and just about if he worked hard maybe he could get there, if he did what the coaches told him to do maybe he could get there.


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[Assistant] And it's just, it's just such a fun concept that the kids dream about this and then they get that call.


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[Assistant] I forget about that sometimes when I'm putting a fit with talent and all that. And to see that line and to think about how his parents must feel seeing that, it's a pretty cool thing.


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[Assistant] Think about volume also with the 49ers and they didn't have much. I think only five total picks. Did that almost, did that hold you back at all? Did you hesitate there about making them second?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, to my point about the Colts, I mean, are the 49ers more difficult to defend than they were a year ago? And they were the second best team. And I think, yes, I think that on paper, it looks like they have made that improvement.


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[Assistant] My second team, Chris, I'm going with the New York Jets and Joe Douglas's first draft there. Uh, and I'm going to point mainly at the first two picks and see, hopefully I can explain this the right way.


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[Assistant] I don't know Joe Douglas. I'm picturing though, after looking at what he did, he had a thought going in, I want to get a starting offensive tackle.


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[Assistant] Because it was so good in rounds two and three might cause a GM to resist temptation in the first round and try and come back and get some of that quality later. And I think Joe Douglas did a perfect job of that because at number 11,


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[Assistant] There wasn't a wide receiver off the board. He could have had any wide receiver he wanted. And with that need, I'm sure he was tempted, but looking ahead to this 59th pick, he probably thought, okay, I also want a starting offensive tackle.


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[Assistant] Am I gonna get a starting OT there with the 59th pick? Probably not.


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[Assistant] I can probably get one. Better chance I'll get one in the second round at wide receiver. So he goes back in.


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[Assistant] The giant offensive tackle with Louisville. Nice pick. I can see why he liked him. Came back at 59 and the 13th best wide receiver, the 13th one off the board was Mims. We'll see if he can be a starter, but I think he manipulated the draft and knowledge and knew exactly what he could get at round two.


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[Assistant] And resisted temptation in round one to get two positions that he had to have for Sam Darnall.


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[Assistant] You know what I love, Chris, is the accidental producing that comes in. I have the jets at two, brings you right into three. You can fill in some of the blanks and get with more detail. So that worked out well.


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[Assistant] My team at three might also show up for you at four or five, we shall see, but I have the Buffalo Bills at number three. And even though they waited till the second round to get AJF and S to me, that's, that's great value. And every year there's somebody who runs a slower time at the combine they should have.


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[Assistant] They're a little shorter than they should have been, and it causes them to go in round two. I think Epines is that guy. So you start right there, but then I go back to the view from 10,000 feet that I'm sure they had in that building after last year.


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[Assistant] They thought Josh Allen was pretty good, as they should have. A lot more good than bad his first year, but they know he has to be better. If they're gonna be good, if they're gonna go from nice playoff team,


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[Assistant] He's got to make a couple giant leaps in the next two and three years. So they get Stefan Diggs. They make that trade happen. I know it's not part of the draft, but I counted it as part of the off season upgrade. And then they get the running back. We talked about round three, Zach Moss, a nice compliment to Singletary. He can also directly help Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] And Gabriel Davis, I don't know him well. I know he was highly productive in college. I just like the execution of a plan that I can see them saying,


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[Assistant] Josh Allen's gotta be a little better or a lot better than he was this year. We're gonna put some people around him to help and that's exactly what they did with the free agency in the trade and also early in the draft.


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[Assistant] Yes, and this is, uh, some more crossover with our selections here, but let me show you. I have Dallas.


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[Assistant] You knew the Cowboys coming in would like to have a starting wide receiver. They would like to have a starting corner. And what if you can get CD Lamb at 17? What if you can get Trayvon Diggs at 51? So your, your details there were very good, but just what they did in rounds one or two in terms of what they had to have this year, uh, you have to applaud. Killed it. I mean, killed it.


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[Assistant] We gotta quit hanging out because I have the Carolina Panthers at number five as well.


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[Assistant] I actually thought it was going to happen with our first three picks, so I'm glad we made it one, two, three without too much crossover. But Carolina, for all the reasons you mentioned and just...


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[Assistant] To have the balls to go with all seven picks on one side of the ball. I mean, that's not something you see very often. I can't wait to see how they use Jeremy Chin. He was one of my favorite prospects to get to know in this class. I mean, how much safety is he going to play? How much a hybrid outside linebacker is he going to play? So.


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[Assistant] You get Matt Ruhl known for the offense that he had in college and they go...


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[Assistant] All seven defensive picks. I just, that one stood out to me in terms of novelty and also the names that they're going to have to plug in.


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[Assistant] You're talking about Bill Parcells and the old Giants. Chris reminded me of back in 1992. How old were you in 92? I was 12.


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[Assistant] And we pulled up to, to the old, old, uh, Metal Land Stadium.


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[Assistant] And thinking, and he was a de-tackle. I'm like, I, I've not seen a chest.


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[Assistant] And arms and ass like that ever. I'm not, I don't know if I want to make it to the NFL if the league is full of guys like that.


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[Assistant] Right where my mind went when you talked about the kind of players that, that, uh, Ruel probably likes based off his relationship with Pill Parcells. No doubt about that.


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[Assistant] Your dad playing for Bill Parcells is the reason your legs an ass guy, Chris. I just put it together.


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[Assistant] Watch football for the whole day, but they did. They understood how important this day was to me, my job.


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[Assistant] What I do for a living, and so they did. I mean, the kids were asking me questions, but my daughter is four years old right now. She was into it. She was into it. She was watching, yeaah. Cool, cool. So I think we have a young football fan.


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[Assistant] So we got, we got a lot. You know, I always pride myself on this Monday, we hit every game. So we're going to talk about every game. Every team that played yesterday, we're going to talk about them. So we're going to have a little deep dive, which you do best. So we'll deep dive on Tom Brady. We'll deep dive on Cam Newton.


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[Assistant] Uh, the new Tom Brady in New England. Yep. We'll do a little self-scout thyself with some games where maybe some things happen that were unexpected. Right. That you have seen differently but maybe now you're, you're perhaps changing your opinion a bit. Sure. Uh, there's some damn okays we gotta give out. Some players who made us go, damn.


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[Assistant] Okay. Uh, and then victory lap, but we gotta give you, cause if we're gonna do self-scout thyself, we have to give you a victory lap. And those are players or teams that proved you right. Well, yea, but you gotta do the victory lap.


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[Assistant] So here's like who I think is in a really strong position to get that number one pick. Yeah, I like that. Sure. Oh, you're gonna give that top, okay, gotcha, okay. Yeah, top pick power rankings. He's really dominating for that top pick right now. Because some teams out there really made a strong case for that.


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[Assistant] I probably confused you a little yesterday too. Yes, exactly. So we'll do that at the end. But let's start out with a film deep dive. And we'll start with Tom Brady. Right.


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[Assistant] Against, uh, the Saints. He got the added advantage of a, you know, Superdome. He had no fans there, so he figured, oh, that might make it a little easy. Unfortunately, you still have to go against the Saints defense, which is very, very good. Numbers for Tom Brady at the end.


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[Assistant] We're 23 of 36, 239 yards. Couple touchdowns, couple bad interceptions. Yep. Uh, did have a rush touchdown. So I think overall you hear a lot of people talking and say, ah, it was pretty lackluster for, for Tom.


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[Assistant] Which was a really good throw from Tom Brady. And watching this game, I kind of was trying to compare him with Drew Brees, with Philip Rivers. Not like the old quarterbacks, what do they have left? And if you ask me honestly, and I don't know if you agree,


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[Assistant] I would have taken Tom Brady over those other two. I think the ranking is Tom Brady for as many throws as he may have missed. He made some really nice throws. Yes he did. He's still got a great arm. Tom Brady, I would go Philip Rivers and Drew Brees in that order.


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[Assistant] The one pick six he threw was he was going for Justin Watson. He threw it after he made his mistake there. So just waiting a second too long. The familiarity with the receivers is not there. Right. I feel like that he'd love to have that one back, obviously, but I don't think that'll happen.


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[Assistant] By the way, the third straight game with a pick six for Tom Brady is one away from tying the record held by Matt Schaub. Oh, because he had one in the Dolphins


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[Assistant] All in all, it seems like not terrible for, uh, for Tom Brady, although we should talk about the team that actually won this game, uh, the Saints, because I don't, they scored a 34.


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[Assistant] Alvin Kamara had some big plays. Drew Brees did not look all that dynamic. Taysom Hill came in for a couple plays. They scored a 34. I don't know quite how they did that, but defensively they were, they were.


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[Assistant] You know what, I always like to look at the air yards downfield because I think it's, it's a measurement that speaks to some of the things you're talking about here and teams not feeling willing to go downfield and stretch the field. Maybe they feel like they can't with Drew Brees, but his average air yards on completed passes is just 3.2 yards tied for the last in the league.


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[Assistant] Interesting question will be, who will win more games? Tom Brady's current team or Tom Brady's old team? Tom Brady's old team already won up on Tom Brady's new team. Patriots got a win over the Dolphins, 21 to 11. Although it was close late, that game was in the balance. Didn't know which way it was going to go. Dolphins had no


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[Assistant] Through the endzone. Which I don't understand that rule. That's never made sense to me. Well, let's get into this. It seems like the penalty for fumbling through the endzone totally outweighs what it should. Give the ball back to the team but give them at the one yard line or something.


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[Assistant] But then you also have the rule, you can't fumble it forward and get the ball spotted at that spot, right? You can't fumble it forward, right? Like 10 yards, and it goes out of bounds, you take it back to where you fumbled it?


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[Assistant] We're all on the side of Cam because he's super fun to watch. 15 to 19, 155 yards passing.


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[Assistant] But more importantly, had 75 yards on the ground, two rush touchdowns. So Pete looked it up, Brady's last 43 games with the Patriots, he had 66 total rushes for 75 yards. So Cam matched it in one game.


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[Assistant] He just, this is what strikes me about Cam. When you have him healthy on your team, you will, you have a chance, you will probably beat teams that are as good or worse than you. Like teams that you should beat with Cam Newton, you will win.


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[Assistant] How many Patriots on that team or that staff would say that he's a better leader right now than Tom was?


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[Assistant] Did they do things, cause we went up to the whiteboard, and you drew out all the different ways they could utilize cam.


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[Assistant] He says, is it surprising to see the Patriots not protect Cam from being hit more?


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[Assistant] And for the Patriots too, you want to keep them healthy throughout the whole season, but it's a one-year deal for a champion. You might as well use them, right? If it goes well, you're going to want to bring them back, obviously, but you might as well use them, see how it works there. It did seem like you had a pretty good connection with Julian Edelman with seven targets, had five catches.


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[Assistant] 57 yards, cause that's the question coming in, right? Like okay, if Cam's gonna run,


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[Assistant] What if you can devise a plan to take away the run? Are there enough other weapons out there where that offense can still be dynamic?


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[Assistant] The question was how Cam was going to be able to execute those type plays. Seemed pretty accurate in this game so far. Just the four incompletions and the 19 passes. Yeaah. He's had shoulder issues in the past. How did he look to you throwing the ball?


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[Assistant] They're fun. Like of top five players who have the most fun in the football field, Cam might be number one. It just looks like he's having a, the game's taken away from you for a couple years, maybe that adds to it, but it just looks like he's having a ball out there.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Normal, makes some good plays, but then three costly interceptions. One in the end zone, late in the game. Uh, are we on Tua watch?


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[Assistant] Uh, it's like he gets bored every once in a while. He's like, oh, maybe we'll try to win without Tom Brady. Now, let's do that. That'll be entertaining for me. Uh, so they did get their first victory without Tom Brady. The Cam Newton era has begun with a victory. You kinda called that, you know, you said that Cam would be good. Even before he was on a team, you called that. You made him a top 10 quarterback.


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[Assistant] One guy, you did not make a top 10 wide receiver. He had a top 10. He did go off. And this begins the self scout thyself section.


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[Assistant] Uh, I talked to Pete, we got to get like a little ditty for all these different segments, right? If you want to sing them or if we want to tape them after we're done here, we can do that. But we've entered the self-scout thyself portion of the podcast and we begin with Devonte Adams. Green Bay went off over 500 yards.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers looked awesome. We'll get to him in a second. But let's start with Devontae. Yeaah. Because he had 14 catches, 150, 60 yards.


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[Assistant] However good Aaron Rodgers is playing, that's the less credit you're going to give Devonte Adams. But I mean, realistically, Aaron Rodgers was awesome last year. What year Aaron Rodgers was that yesterday? It wasn't 2019. Yea, right?


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[Assistant] Three hundred and sixty-four yards. Four touchdowns. He had twelve incompletions, but I saw somewhere that seven of those were just kind of throwaways when no one was open. So he was just on point. Now, we don't know how much of this is the Vikings defense right now because we're going through a transition. You know, Demille Hunter, the secondary is totally


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[Assistant] A lot of it is Aaron Rodgers, I'm sure, but some of it could have been the Vikings defense.


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[Assistant] Wondered if Justin Jefferson can step right in, the rookie from LSU, and fill the shoes of Stephon Diggs. Two catches, 26 yards in the first game, so not yet for that Minnesota offense. No, it's gotta be more versatile.


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[Assistant] Uhm, RLZ54 says, please discuss your number 38 quarterback rank for Mitch Kluczybyski. All time great performance versus the Lions.


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[Assistant] There's, the best evidence of that is what has happened to the Detroit Lions basically every single season since they started playing football. Right. They lose games where it's almost impossible. They do. What was, I think they were saying on the broadcast, 98% win probability in the fourth quarter when they were up 23 to 6.


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[Assistant] Against the Chicago Bears, we've done nothing offensively. Right. And then you have DeAndre Swift open in the end zone on the second to last play of the game. And he just drops it.


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[Assistant] So this year's 23-6. I, like, being a Lions fan, like, people ask me, in the future, if they go, hey, what was it like living through 2020? What was that like? I'll say, it was like being a Lions fan. Like, everything sucked about it. I was so, I haven't felt like that.


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[Assistant] So they had, yea, they had injuries in the secondary and so they were beat up. That didn't hurt.


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[Assistant] We're gonna self-scout thyself on the, uh, the overall colts here, but, uh, Philip Rivers as well. Uh, Marcus H1991 throws this at ya.


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[Assistant] The Colts lost to what appeared to be a team trying to tank for Trevor. Should I, as a Colts fan, overreact?


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[Assistant] Yeah, not yet. I was gonna throw that Gardner-Minshew threw an average of five yards in front of the first down marker, lowest in the, in the league. So they were being very conservative, but it worked. That's all they needed to be. Total yards. I mean, the Colts almost had double. I know. Total yards. The Colts didn't punt in the game.


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[Assistant] I was looking up the next-gen sprint speed. Yeaah. He went off on one of them, right? He went off, he was in the top ten a couple of times, so there was...


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[Assistant] There was that 35 yard catch was the 7th fastest ball carrier of the week. Okay. And then, he had just like a 5 yard run, and normally you don't see that. Normally the fastest ball carriers are like ripping off 30 yard gains or 75 yard gains.


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[Assistant] His, the fourth fastest ball carrier of the week was him.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that is the self-scout thyself. Uh, we had to be a little introspective, but now, let's, you know what?


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[Assistant] It's time for, we actually do have a song for this one. It's time for Damn Okay. Damn.


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[Assistant] Aww yeah, damn. Okay, so if you're watching on YouTube, you just saw me do a little ditty. Chris was bobbing his head as well. And I've thought of this too. You know, you often refer to our fans as the homies, but the homie club. You're 40 now. I've been 40 for a little while longer.


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[Assistant] I'm always gonna bob my head and... It'll be like bitchin', right? It's like everyone will be like, we'll be saying, you know, yo and homies 10 years from now and the kids will be like, that's so old. I don't know why you're doing that. But, uh, we like it damn okay. We like these players that stepped up. Let's do the Seattle game against Atlanta. Oh my gosh. Give out a lot of damn okays in that one. We often do for Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] But, uh, Pete threw in a damn okay for Jamal Adams. Got you. 12 tackles, one sack, two tackles for a loss. You know, Matt Ryan and that Falcons offense got going garbage time. Which makes me feel very good about my Matt Ryan pick for most yards in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Might get them all in the third and fourth quarter when they're down 30. Uh, but Jamal Adams when the game mattered was really good.


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[Assistant] In what might be a changed offense here. So they want to let Russ cook. You have a different saying. What's your saying? Let him be? Let him go.


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[Assistant] Just text her. Just text her and hash it out with her and see if she's okay with this song. Uhm, but they did. They let him cook. So he was, uh, what was he, 30? 31 of 35. 31 of 35.


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[Assistant] Of those 35 passes, exactly zero were into a tight window, which is what they classify as one yard. Only quarterback in the league this first week that didn't have one pass into a tight window.


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[Assistant] To his credit, these receivers were getting open. He used a lot of them. Nine different guys caught passes. They were open. Give credit to Russell for hitting them and give credit to the Seahawks for letting them throw it.


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[Assistant] So in the first half, Wilson passed on seven of twelve first down plays. Ran himself two others, so they weren't straight runs. Many of the first down plays in the first half, so right out of the gates they were through.


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[Assistant] They had Isaiah Oliver at the line in kind of like that bump and run when he had- On a fourth and five, right? When he had, well at least on the 38 yard touchdown to Metcalf where it appeared he had deep, you know, deep thirds, but he was right up there at the line trying to battle with him. He had no chance.


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[Assistant] Yards for me. So he had 450 did Matt Ryan in the game. But good game for Russell Wilson. Great game for Jamal Adams in his new spot. Another player in his new spot. DeAndre Hopkins. He went off.


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[Assistant] He, uh, went totally against what you've said. Is that new players in new places are going to have trouble. He was maybe the one guy that really went off in a new spot. Didn't happen right away in the game. Early in the game, we didn't see him a ton. But man, once the second quarter, second half hit,


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[Assistant] Especially when George Kittle gets hurt in the second half. Didn't have a target after halftime. A team that already is depleted in the receiving options here. Uh, so I think that really, really hurt their offense. Cause he looked, Kittle looked good.


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[Assistant] We should look a little bit more at Jimmy G because gobbledygook49 had a question about, you know, how much of it is Jimmy G, how much of it is the poor wide receivers, and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] One thing that was good for the 49ers was Raheem Mostert, that 76 yard touchdown. He was the fastest ball carrier in the NFL in week one. By a mile an hour, like 1.5 miles an hour. That fast.


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[Assistant] Oof. Alden Smith coming back. 11 tackles, one sack, two quarterback hits after basically being out of football. For what has it almost been? Five years now? Is that how long it's been?


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[Assistant] He played 54 of 73 defensive snaps according to PFF. That was the most of any.


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[Assistant] Cowboys defensive lineman, so that was really good. Wasn't enough to get a win. No. Although...


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[Assistant] Some people thought maybe the Cowboys should have been in field goal range at the end of the game. Sims Homies, at Sims Homies, shout out, uh, asked, seeing a lot of people talking about that PI on Gallup calling the PI review to come back. This is a terrible idea, correct? Well I think it is, yeaah. They're not gonna, they would not have overturned that. I don't think so.