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[Assistant] There's also the little known fact or trend that once a quarterback starts dating a celebrity, they tend to win the MVP.


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[Assistant] You look at Aaron Rodgers when he was dating Olivia Munn, won the MVP, also with Shailene Woodley. And there is Josh Allen, who is now dating Hailey Seinfeld, uh, musician and, uh, and actress. So, yeah, maybe there's something to it.


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[Assistant] Yes, not the Super Bowl. That's, that's very right. That's very right. Alright, Breach, what's your first bet?


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[Assistant] So it's interesting, they have, the odds have Jonathan Taylor and Nick Chubb above Derek Henry at plus 750.


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[Assistant] Alright, well uhm, you guys are giving tons of value, which I understand, and I have some value picks.


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[Assistant] Down the line, but why not make some money with the very first week, the very first night. I'm looking at the Lions and the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Obviously, Chiefs are laying seven now. It opened up at six and a half, already been bet up, but the total is 54.


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[Assistant] And so I'm gonna take this under 54 and as much as I like the fighting Dan Campbell's and I do really think that they have improved this offseason and a fun fact that I was reading, did y'all know that Jared Goff is the most


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[Assistant] And it's basically just based on a lot of week one trends since 2000, the under is hit in 53% of week one games. Also Thursday night game, as we know, Thursday night games, incredibly low scoring, um, all but four games, I believe last year in TNF, uh, with a total of 50 or greater, uh, hit the under at 78%. We do know that offensives,


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[Assistant] Offenses tend to struggle a little bit out the gate. And I do think that the Lions have improved their secondary. So I like this under 54. Yes, it's at minus 110. You're not getting crazy value, but if you want to make some money, very first game, I like the under.


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[Assistant] The Rams? And that barely got, well, depend on where you got the number. It was like right there in the 2021 season when it was, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I agree with you, but I do think that the Lions have beefed up their secondary, both in the draft and, uh, in free agency, so that will be interesting to see. And I believe that some of those totals were like 56, 55, a little bit even higher than this one is, but yeah, I mean, with the Chiefs betting an under, it's always a gamble.


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[Assistant] I'm still sticking with that one. Brinson, what is your second pick to make right now?


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[Assistant] Brinson, what is the Brinson model? Well, one, how many wins do you have the Falcons getting? And like, and just also like in division, do you think they're splitting games with say the Saints and the Panthers? Or do you think they could sweep anybody?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that, but splitting in the division, which shows kind of how close this division matches up. All right, Breach, what is your next bet to make right now?


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[Assistant] I love it. I love it. I love that. Well, you know, not even Twitter right now is, is in an uproar. I don't know if you guys saw that Sam Darnold got the, uh, the reps with the ones.


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[Assistant] Yesterday and Trey Lance was sent down to the twos and Trey Lance apparently had three drops. Sam Darnold only had two. And so everyone's thinking, oh, is Sam or yeah, it's Sam Darnold, right? I'm getting the right quarterback. Is Sam Darnold going to replace Trey Lance, which I'm sure they all get their reps with the ones in the twos and it's not that big of a deal. But I agree with what you're saying. It seems like what's going on with Brock Purdy right now, they really, really like the progress that he's making and


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Darnold passes Trey Lance on the death chart.


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[Assistant] Right, based on strength of schedule and who they're going against. Alright, uhm, yes, agree 100%.


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[Assistant] Slander, it's just not Sam Darnold slander and unfortunately we've seen more of Sam Darnold than we've ever seen of Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] Hopeful that Trey Lance is going to be everything that we drafted him to be, but we just haven't seen that yet. And so we feel more comfortable talking about quarterbacks that we know can actually do well in this system.


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[Assistant] I agree. And alright, Breach, you scratched my back. I'm not gonna scratch yours right now. I'm gonna take the Bengals at ten to one for a value pick to win the Super Bowl. Now I have


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[Assistant] two bets that are kind of uh, $25 on each and they're, and they're kind of in the same round here. So I'll just go through both of them. But first with the bangles, obviously the chiefs are a favorite for a reason. And if you want to go chalk on this, there ain't no blame or shame there. You look at the Niners and the Eagles, uh, and the bills that of course round out the top of the odds board Niners.


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[Assistant] Even though we just talk too many question marks fo and we haven't been able t


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[Assistant] Eagles, I know Billy and Eagles fans don't like to hear this, but I do think they're due for some regression based on the strength of schedule and how hard it is to come back after losing a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] So at 10-1, I think this is the best odds that we are going to see the Bengals all season long. They're the favorite to win their division. They got Joe Burrow, who has been Mahomes' kryptonite, only quarterback to beat him three times.


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[Assistant] Since he also has arguably the best trio of receivers, you got Jamar Chase, T Higgins, Tyler Boyd. I know we're gonna maybe get into Tyler Boyd a little bit later here. Uh, they've made some improvements in their defense in the draft, so I like that, but I'm also not mad at, which is maybe my second part of this bet, which also is $25.


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[Assistant] Maybe just say AFC North is the winning division for the Super Bowl at plus 450. You look at their quarterbacks, you got Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] You got Lamar Jackson, you got Watson, which we don't even know what he's going to be yet, but he has the potential to be.


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[Assistant] what he was at one point. You got proven head coaches. You got John Harbaugh, Zach Taylor, Mike Tomlin never had a losing division and you've got some really good defenses and all of those offensive weapons. So I do think that the AFC North maybe is a little bit slept on in terms of a division, but if I'm going to pick one, I like the Bengals.


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[Assistant] How do y'all feel about the, uhm, AFC North as the winning division? Because you look at other teams in there and I know that we're worried about the Ravens and how far Lamar Jackson is going to go into this season, but you can't say that looking at that roster that they're not a contender.


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[Assistant] It is, it is entirely possible. I mean, yeah, we'll have to see how that goes. Alright, Princeton, what is your next bet you are making right now? Ooh, yeah.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Alright, uh, we have one more bet that we're making right now, but we do need to take a quick break. You're watching Pick Six and we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 podcast here with Breach and Brinson. If you're watching us on YouTube, make sure that you subscribe, comment, like, do the works, and if you listen to audio, do the same. We have one more bet that we are making


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[Assistant] Right now, and I believe it is my turn, right? Yeah, I think we've all gone through. Alright, y'all have given a lot of value here and as have I, uh, with the bangles here. This is one that I don't mind laying $1.30 on. The Cardinals under 5 wins. It's at minus $1.30. They have the lowest


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[Assistant] Projected win total of the season and for very good reason. It wasn't five and a half.


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[Assistant] Now it's at five, obviously, with DHOP. It seems to me that they're just tanking at this point. Rookie head coach, rookie offensive coordinator, rookie defensive coordinator, rookie general manager. They got rid of DHOP. They're probably gonna get rid of Earth Snacks, like, and just do the full tank.


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[Assistant] They've given up already. Yeah, Breach's daughter is already on our conference calls and stuff, so I think she's probably capable of doing it. But yeah, I mean, I just don't see them winning a lot of games. And Brinson, you brought up that this is probably going to dip to four and a half, and so you'll get even more value on that. But I don't mind laying this right now, especially when you look at the NFC West.


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[Assistant] The Niners win total is 11 and a half. The Seahawks are at nine. The Rams, okay, they're at six and a half. But like you say all the time, Brinson, they've got Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay. The cards might not win a game in their division and they see those guys twice. So I don't mind that it's minus 130. I don't think that the Cardinals get over five wins.


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[Assistant] Yep, alright, love it. Brinson, what is your last pick?


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[Assistant] No, he should. They double, they triple team him. You still can't stop him from, from getting to the quarterback. So yeaah, I love that. Uhm, Breach, what is your final pick for the season?


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[Assistant] Well, that plays into Breach, our AFC North winning division, because if he throws for that much and the Browns are good, then, you know, they could be a contender, uh, to get to possibly the Super Bowl, even though


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[Assistant] I don't know. I'm more with Douglas in the chat. I don't want to comment on Watson. I don't want to comment on Watson anymore, uh, either.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we have just a couple minutes left here. There was some things that happened in the news, like for one,


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[Assistant] Tom Brady on his retirement, uhm, Billy, hopefully I'm not, I'm not putting this on you too quickly, but I think we have a video, uhm, to discuss.


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[Assistant] It's probably my fault because I said that we were going to not do this and then we did. So one, Tom Brady says that he is actually retiring, that he's not going to come back. So thought, I mean, duh, did any of us really think...


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[Assistant] Interesting that he brought up the Fox deal because wasn't there news that he was possibly going to postpone that and didn't want to get to the Fox Broadcasting deal in the next year? Did y'all read that?


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[Assistant] Which, by the way, is the smart thing to do. And I, and I will say that being in the booth is a lot of travel and a lot of work. It may not be as much as playing in the NFL, but you're still on an NFL schedule. So if you are wanting to spend more time with your family, jumping right into the booth and having that kind of travel schedule and work schedule,


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[Assistant] Alright, that is going to do it for our show today. I do want to mention one thing in the chat. Uhm, it appears that Dom, one of our faithful listeners,


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[Assistant] Is having surgery tomorrow. So Dom, we wish you well with your surgery and of course a very, very speedy recovery. Uh, we always appreciate you in the chat and so we hope that you


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[Assistant] We'll be back very, very soon. Make sure you join us next week for more off season coverage. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only download, leave a five star review, tell your friends to listen and watch the pod and we will see you next week. Have a good weekend.


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[Assistant] He's a red wine guy, folks. Don't let him fool you with those toughies. He likes wine better.


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[Assistant] Two steps in the right direction for you, Brinson.


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[Assistant] I'm glad they got this done before the 2023 draft, uh, in part because now Green Bay's got a little extra ammunition to help out Jordan Love. Uh, he clearly, he's not going to be the same player as Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre was at this point in time for the Packers. And I think the Packers fan base.


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[Assistant] Really should look back on the past three decades and realize you've had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks playing at pretty much a Hall of Fame level the entire time. How lucky are you? Uhm, if it happens a third time, so be it, but it's very rare that that happens. So I'm just glad that they got the ammunition they needed in order to help provide Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] The help that I think he may need in his first year as the full time starter, uh, but let's be real. This is pretty much about two second round picks and one next year that can become a first round pick. Other than that, Dicing on the Keg is the swap in the first and seventh round, uh, which makes the deal a little bit sweeter.


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[Assistant] I'm glad we got it done. Finally, we don't have to keep talking about this anymore. That's the biggest thing in my mind.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the first round when I'm like, all right, maybe they want to leapfrog New England. And there's a thought that New England's looking at the same guys we are. And we'd like to be the first one at the bar by the, the nice, you know, young woman, a drink or something. But the reality is.


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[Assistant] And the problem was, was it was on that day, I believe. And it kind of, so people are like, oh, it's taken away from the draft picks and all that. I'm just glad it happened at the beginning of the week. We could talk about it, move through it, and then move on. Or as we kind of evaluate what each team is going to do in this year's draft.


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[Assistant] You add that up and do all the math. Maybe Steve can give you that. And I'll try to just kind of continue.


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[Assistant] I thought one of the more interesting things in Brian Gunn-Kunz when he was interviewed after the trade was official and all that, uh, him quoting and referring to like the eight and nine record last year, how they're just trying to get better at all stuff. I was like, Oh,


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[Assistant] Kind of some parting words, uhm, I mean, obviously that's what the record was. I don't know that it was in large part because Aaron Rodgers play, right? I mean, you've, you've got Christian Watson. He started to come into his own, but you got rid of Devontae Adams. The offensive times had a hard time finding its flow. They still can't stop the run.


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[Assistant] There was a, there was a number of issues and it was almost like the way he said it was like, yeah, we're okay. We're ready to move on with Jordan love. And we were eight, nine last year. So who cares? It's like, dude.


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[Assistant] He was arguably the greatest player, arguably, I say, because there's a number of other packers you can throw in that conversation, you know, Fav, uhm, you know, Bart Starr, whoever you want to start talking about in that vein, but,


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[Assistant] He was arguably the greatest player we've ever had. He was there the longest of any player in Green Bay Packer history.


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[Assistant] It's like you just figured that this is the finality of it and it's just kind of like a throwaway comment. I still can't, like I can understand the frustration maybe from the Packers front office because of some of the things that, you know, Aaron has said that they probably didn't want to go out and be public or make more of it.


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[Assistant] But there's also the sense of like, just take the high road. Like this dude was an ambassador for your team, did everything right pretty much for the most part throughout his career. And he's, he's moving on. I just, it was a little bit odd with the way this thing kind of came to an end.


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[Assistant] He said arguably, and the only thing he said definitively is that he's been there the longest, which is true. That's not disputable.


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[Assistant] I think what makes it worse is, like, the Packers organization, even though it wasn't the same people, they made the same mistake twice.


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[Assistant] I mean, you drafted a guy to replace the guy you have.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know that a player would want to, you know, transition like this. Now, obviously Nathaniel Hackett being there as the OC helps. Alan Lazard being there helps, but it's a pretty big undertaking to move to another city.


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[Assistant] Find your comfort zone with where you're going to live, how you're going to conduct your personal life, how you're going to train and prepare yourself.


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[Assistant] But there's so many stresses outside of that that then add up and pile up to make it more difficult. And I just, I can't imagine that


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[Assistant] You just do it for a year and be done with it. Like I think this is a young team. They're a growing budding team. You could make the case that they arguably have some of the best players at their position. I mean, wouldn't you say Soss Gardner might be one of the top, you know, cornerbacks in the league?


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, potentially. Uhm, but, but, you know, just looking at some of the young Quinn and Williams, look at some of the young talented players they have, you're saying to yourself, like, the best years are ahead of this team, especially now they have a quarterback. So, uhm, I would think that he'd want to be there at least for a couple of years. And if anything, you know, more than anything else, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, obviously you can't control injury, which I'm not sure if, I wonder if there's a clause in there for playtime, et cetera, et cetera, and how that.


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[Assistant] Which, what I'm saying, sometimes they put in, or try to layer in a condition for injury where that wouldn't count, but uhm, you know, in this case, probably not the case. So, that's out of his hands, but I would imagine that he wants to play at least two years there, if not more. That, which, which then brings the light,


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[Assistant] What are you doing, Zach Wilson? You know, you already got, don't they have Tim Boyle there on the Ross? They brought in as a backup.


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[Assistant] He clearly knows the system. Uh, Rogers likes him. That makes a lot of sense. I know we keep hearing this narrative. I think Charles Robinson wrote an article today about how they'd like to groom, uh, Zach Wilson into, you know, that next, you know, 2.0 after Rogers has done.


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[Assistant] It just doesn't make any financial sense. They're, they're paying, I think fully guaranteed 35 million to Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] What do you think he's going to expect when his contract's up? And how do you pick up his fifth year option?


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[Assistant] If he's not going to play this year, and then he doesn't play the next year, which would be the final year of his rookie deal unless they picked up the fifth year option.


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[Assistant] There's just so many question marks. I would want a fresh start if I'm Zach Wilson and say, hey, look, I'm glad Aaron Rodgers is here, but like you drafted me to play. Clearly I'm not playing as much as I'd want to learn behind Aaron Rodgers. I also want a chance to go compete, play elsewhere. I mean, San Francisco seems to be a team that's looking for someone. Maybe you go there and compete with Sam Arnold till Brock Purdy's hurt.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think they're either the team or right there with Buffalo to beat. Uhm, you know, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, depending on how fast Aaron Rodgers can get up to speed with the guys he's throwing to, one of which he will and Alan Lazard so that he's good there.


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[Assistant] Question marks with 2 and his health in Miami. And obviously New England, at least looking at the roster, you'd have to say is the bottom of the division right now.


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[Assistant] So think about this, they play the AFC West, like here's where you parlay it. Alright, I think if you make the bet for them to make the playoffs, we'll just fight at minus 150, which by the way,


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[Assistant] I would actually look at the Bills odds of making the playoffs too, if you really want to get into your tactic of what you're looking at, Will. Why don't you go find that number for me?


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[Assistant] But I would rather parlay using your logic, Will. Uh, go ahead and take the over of nine and a half, which I think is their win-loss total. Yep. Minus one twenty-five. Yep.


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[Assistant] And, and then parlay that along with them making the playoffs, which I think you'd say 10, 10 wins probably gets you in at that point. They play the NFC South. I would think that they get three wins there.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe they aren't able to beat the Saints, which is going to be the most competitive team in that division. They play the AFC West. That's tough, but I'm willing to give them at least one, maybe two wins there.


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[Assistant] And I think if they go 500 in their division, what's that, eight wins?


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[Assistant] I mean, so we're, we're talking about being kind of right there on the door of being able to hit that over, which I think is they're very capable of doing. Here's why I'm more bullish on the Jets. If you go back and look at the Jets who are a seven win team.


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[Assistant] What you have working to your advantage is a really good defense, especially when healthy. Uh, an offense that when the offensive line is healthy and when Bryce Hall's back there, they can run the football.


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[Assistant] That's only gonna get better with the addition of Aaron Rodgers. They're gonna see less of loaded boxes. Last year, go back and watch the games. They were like, yeah, let's see if Zach Wilson and Mike White and


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco, anyone else can beat us. We'll load up the box to stop the run. And so one of these guys can figure out a way of making it work versus Rogers. They're going to have way more favorable boxes. Teams are going to be scared of trying to bring pressure against them because he know he could dice them up.


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[Assistant] It's gonna change the dynamics in every single way. It's gonna help the defense, it's gonna help the rushing attack as well.


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[Assistant] I'm much more bullish on really how balanced this team can be moving forward. Whereas if you look at the Buffalo Bills.


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[Assistant] What's changed? They don't consistently want to run the football or run the football well. They got bullied on both sides of the football versus Cincinnati Bengals in the playoffs. And I'll remind you the Bengals were playing with backup offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] So there's, there's concerns that I have in a big way of what that team is going to look like coming out this year. I still think I'd give them the edge of at least being tied for the top, if not the top of the division, but I could see that maybe people feel like they've hit a ceiling at this point in time and they've got to kind of reinvent themselves of how they want to go about trying to win this division.


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[Assistant] Which, which is funny you bring that up, right? Cause that's one of the fastest ways to figure out how the NFL feels about you. Like when you're a player and you have a schedule and you see like how many prime, now sometimes you're a small market.


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[Assistant] It is what it is, but you're like, if you think about it, okay, they're probably, they're definitely going to be prime time versus Kansas City because they play them this year.


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[Assistant] Maybe the charge is probably not, not Las Vegas, uhm, and, and most likely not, uh, who's in the team division, uh, uh, Denver. Maybe, probably not Denver. Uh, NFC South.


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[Assistant] Probably not. Uh, but within their division, I would say definitely the Bills. One of those for sure is gonna be, uhm, on Primetime. Maybe even Miami in that mix.


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[Assistant] So, so what's that 4 right there? Maybe 5? I mean, they're for sure gonna have 5 prime time games. My question is, how many of the Packers have this year?


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[Assistant] West coast to west coast, but you know, Russell had been through a number of systems, you know, Shane Walden system going back to his time with Sean McVade, even back to deeper roots from some of him when he first started his career with New England. I mean, it's nothing like what Nathaniel Hackett's running in their west coast. So.


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[Assistant] That was much more difficult transition. You know, he wasn't bringing along a wide receiver with him. You know, Roger's going to have Alan Lazard there and that's if they don't sign anyone else that potentially he's close to or maybe once on the roster.


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[Assistant] I just, I, I, I get the feeling this is gonna be a little different as far as the transition. And also you're talking about a guy that, uh, has won what, four MVPs? Yeah. Versus Russell, who I, I mean, has he still got a, not got a vote at this point in time?


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[Assistant] You don't call three plays. Usually you have different alerts within that. You have a number of plays you can get to or audible to.


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[Assistant] That's, and again, Peyton's different. Peyton, cause Peyton, when Peyton walked up, he'd call wherever he wanted. If you want to check to something else and he saw like a three man side on an open side, weak side run, he could check to that. But there's not a lot of quarterbacks that are giving carte blanche like that.


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[Assistant] There's a lot there. Uh, it's the draft. Who knows? If you're a betting person, I would wait until the day before a day of.


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[Assistant] When things calm down and you maybe get a little more of an inclination as to what's going to happen and hopefully you still catch some value there if you want to make a bet for the number one overall pick because at this point the odds are still heavily in favor of Bryce Young being the number one overall pick.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I would, I would be careful about everything you see and read this week. Uh, you gotta decipher through all of it, uh, but.


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[Assistant] Bottom line is, no one knows what these teams are gonna do. And I don't even know that all these teams know what the other teams are gonna do. And that's probably one of the reasons why you see all these things floated out there. And, uh, as I was talking to Rick Spielman about


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[Assistant] I wanted all of our guys to be prepared for any of the crazy scenarios that a lot of the media members threw out there that we didn't think were possible or that weren't really logical. So all of the people who are thrown out these mocks, like a Will Brinson, for example, there are some people maybe looking at him and say, hey, what if this scenario happens? What if our Intel is bad? How would we react in this instance? So.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know, it's gonna be fun. Thursday can't get here soon enough, which by the way, just on that note.


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[Assistant] I hate the fact that it's like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday thing. I, I, I loved like my experience, but also the experience back then when it was just all Saturday, all Sunday, you just took the entire weekend and you cast it aside because you're plastered in front of the TV watching.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean more of like a fixture, right? Like just sitting there watching the TV, yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, but I just, I liked that draft process better. I know that's not made for TV and it's not in prime time. So obviously the NFL is never going back, but.


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[Assistant] Well, that and the fact that you get a fifth year option, which for some teams, especially for quarterbacks is really important for evaluation and team control, uh, for that player, for that asset. But to your point, I mean, it is essentially what it's become. It's become the greatest reality TV there is and just having been through it before.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's the like hard part to describe to people is, there's not many people who get to live out their dream of something they do.


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[Assistant] But then you get to the point where you're choosing how to live that out and you have no choice whatsoever. Like you just are a part of the process and it comes and it goes and you're watching like everyone else trying to figure out where you're going to end up going and where you're playing or continuing your career.


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[Assistant] It's crazy, uh, I wish they kept it the way it was. I understand why they don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, it is, it is gonna be fun to see, you know, where a lot of these players careers continue on the NFL come Thursday night, but I'll still be watching Friday. I'll still be watching Saturday to see where all of these guys are gonna end up being drafted and how they help out the rosters.


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[Assistant] You honestly aren't, like, that's one of the biggest, no, not at all. I mean, like, maybe someone else around you is, but.


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[Assistant] As players, you're pretty insulated from all this stuff, and I don't want to say you're ignorant to it.


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[Assistant] Cause, you know, people will make you aware maybe of what people are saying and what's going on, but you're not spending time searching throughout or looking at it. At least I wasn't, I know a lot of the guys I was training with and preparing for the draft or really to go play in the NFL with weren't really, you know, overly locked in on that. I mean, you know, as a prospect, especially the past couple of months.


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[Assistant] Your days are long. I mean, you're training, you're going through interview training, you're looking at film, you're not only looking at your film, NFL offenses, you're getting treatment, you're working through injuries, you're working on your diet, getting good sleep, all these things. I mean, you really do have blinders on, like one of those Clydesdales you see at like Central Park that are toting people around.


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[Assistant] You're busy. We were on a bus like every morning at 7am. This is back when I was in New York City. And we were going around different events. It could have been that Nike camp. It could have been, uh, visiting a hospital and some, you know, sick kids at a hospital.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so you'd get done and then that night you'd have various marketing obligations or parties and things. And there was like sometimes, some days were devoted to just that, right? Like you were there on behalf of Sprint, you're there on behalf of EAS, you're there on behalf of whatever Xbox, whatever other sponsorship that I had at that time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like that was another deal we had. So there's a lot of stuff going on for some of the top prospects. I don't know how it's changed in that regard now that it's a little more remote and you're going to Kansas City this year or wherever else in the future.


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[Assistant] That was essentially what it was like. It's a busy week. And so you can't pay attention to everything that's said because there's so much stuff out there. And especially nowadays with social media, there's just almost too much stuff out there.


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[Assistant] People get so worried in the media about like doing their job, but sometimes they have to be critical. As long as they don't cross the line, that's kind of a different point, but you have beat reporters who, you know, you go play a bad game, they might hammer you for their performance and all that.


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[Assistant] I was never one to take the approach of saying, oh, I'm going to be a jerk to this guy. Like that's what he gets paid to do. I didn't play well. I promise you, whatever he wrote, it's not as bad as what I'm saying to myself and what I think of how I played.


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[Assistant] So I was never one to take it out. Now, not every player feels that way. A lot of times they'll, they'll come at some folks, but yeah. Yeah. You can't, you can't say, but that's the lie. You cross that line.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well even like the button set, I don't know what you call that, I'm not a fashion guy, but like, that's a good look. That was like before it's time, like now that's that, now that's like kinda coming back. I'm not sure about the uhm, you know, the shirt underneath, like the tight, with like not much room for the tie.


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[Assistant] Although I will say this, it did used to be badass. That's not, that's not very interesting.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it did used to be the cool look though for running backs when they had that, that jersey tucked up like that. And then they put the tail plate out the back. Remember that Will? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Back in the, I mean Eddie George as an Ohio State running back to me like growing up watching him, that's who I remember because he was freaking shredded and then he was like, it was, it was cropped off. He had the little, the little like almost tail plate coming out the back and it just looked badass, but it doesn't look quite as good in a suit.


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[Assistant] I'm wi- I'm with you on that, although like I said, I like this suit, like outside, and just if you didn't roll it up. So like on that basis alone, the bow tie, it takes a lot for a guy, I think nowadays, you gotta be very convicted and strong, and your sense of yourself, and your, you know, confidence in wearing that. So, I'm gonna give him a 7. I'm gonna go once again, just a little bit above Will on this one.


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[Assistant] I'm just impressed by the fact that he's talking on a wireless phone. Did they have those in 91? Like I thought for sure you'd have one of those 20 foot long, you know, cords to be attached to something.


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[Assistant] No, they didn't have that in Mississippi at that point. I'm going to tell you that much. So, yeah, well, that, yeah, well.


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[Assistant] It's on, you know, it's, it's on brand though. It's on brand for who he is, who they were. Uh, I actually liked the fact that those were probably not printed t-shirts in the background though. Everyone did that probably by hand sprayed them on. Yes. I'll sprayed them on took time to do that. So I'm going to give them credit for that.


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[Assistant] And I like the fact that Brett was, you know, before his time, he had a, apparently a cordless landline phone. So I'll give him a five. I'll give him a 5.0.


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[Assistant] It's a 10 for me, man. It's, it's on brand. It's, it's comfortable, which I think you didn't have to wait long to get drafted, but it is comfortable. That's part of it. Uh, it's stylish. Uh, I just, I loved everything about it. It was like very on brand for.


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[Assistant] The suits were bigger than, I know, like they're gonna look like we were wearing basically trash bags as far as how baggy they were. It wasn't, it wasn't my, by choice, you know, people would make them for you and this is like,


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[Assistant] So here's what people don't know about the long hair. This is what like, again, I wasn't going to throw like Joe Theismann in the bus for this, but I used to cut, I used to grow my hair out and cut it off and, and you could do that. You could donate it, you know, for kids who need it for wigs. So when I got to Cleveland,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was growing out to donate it. So I, I did it for a program, uh, in Cleveland that was called Wigs for Kids. I used to do it with Oz, uh, who was my barber back home, good, good buddy. Uhm, and so he would, he would cut it off, we'd send it in. So, uh, that was why the hair was long. The suit was...


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[Assistant] You thought you were going to the Browns. You wore a brown suit. I swear to you, it's funny. I, that had nothing to do with it. That was the, it was a three piece suit, which I liked. I thought that was cool.


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[Assistant] I was ripped off of Roger Goodell's couch in his green room, and I was thrusted on stage. And I was like, someone throw me some gum. And awful.


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[Assistant] And again, I've told this story before. I was talking with Baltimore, that entire pick.


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[Assistant] I'll just, I'll never forget, like, the whirlwind of emotions that goes along with that, where you're kind of picturing your life. You know, what it's going to be like to play for Baltimore, what it's going to be like to be there. Uhm, and then next thing you know, a team that you didn't think was possible, because they already passed, took someone else at three,


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[Assistant] It happens to be a team you grew up, you know, cheering for or rooting for. It's one of the coolest things in the world. You know, I wish everyone could experience something like that in their lifetime. Uhm, and so it was hard to hold back emotions, but.


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[Assistant] And then like the cleaning people come at like 4 or 1. They're like, alright, are you done packing up? You're like...


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[Assistant] I just gotta get a few more things. Sorry, my kids are just trying to... Alright, it's 4.03. Are you guys... Yeah, sir. Check out what it was at 4 o'clock. You're like...


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[Assistant] It was a free piece suit. It was, first off, even back then, I remember like the suits that I used to wear for like college game days. I always, they'd be a little tighter than that. I remember when they gave it to me, I was like, ah, this isn't really my style, but it's nice. And you know, someone, someone, you know, made it for you and gave it to you, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I mean, they're nice. So I was like, try to be appreciative, you know, as you wear that suit. I wore the other suits that I got like earlier that week. So everyone's like, oh no, you stopped here in Cleveland. I was like, no, it was the last suit that I had. And it was, it was a three piece suit, which I was like, all right, it went the extra length to give me a vest. So, you know, why not? This looks pretty cool.


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[Assistant] The best thing you're doing there is you're not corndogging the mic, which, you know, tends to happen sometimes when people, the way they grab the mic, they're holding it like it's a darn corndog walking around, and you're cleanly shaving, and your hair looks about as groomed as it does today. So, I'll give you some points for that. Out of this, I'll give you a 4.5. I'm giving you half a point better than I gave myself.


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[Assistant] Personally, I wouldn't take this level of disrespect.


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[Assistant] Uhm, besides my own, which was, you know, it took a while to get there, but as I said that day and to this day, I still say like, I wouldn't have changed anything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was an unbelievable experience. You know, my family got to meet me in New York for that week, got to experience New York City, which is awesome. Uh, I went to the team I rooted for growing up as a, you know, a child and, uh,


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[Assistant] And then you're like whisked off to go to a media pool room. You're like trying to answer a bunch of questions, right? And you're trying to internalize what the hell just happened. And for me, it was different than most where like it was just one phone calls too. It was like, Oh, you're going to both one. I expect. All right, sweet.


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[Assistant] How are you guys doing? Good to meet you. They're peppering with questions. I'm answering the questions. Then I got another phone call. It's like complete whirlwind.


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[Assistant] But then you're like, you're whisked off. Like we went, we were going right to the airport. My mom, my dad, myself, all the time, chopper. We were all like in a plane, then flying to go pick up Joe Thomas to go to Cleveland together. So it was just like a crazy experience, a crazy 24 hour, uh, way of experiencing it.


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[Assistant] That wasn't necessarily my favorite.


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[Assistant] My teammate throughout junior high, high school, since he moved to my hometown, when he got drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals in the seventh round, Chino doing Duke way, that was my favorite moment. Cause you know, for me,


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[Assistant] We had, we had gone to school together, we had grown up together, like, we had experienced so much together. And to see his dream come true too, and all the hard work he had put in, we both put in.


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[Assistant] That was one of the coolest things, like for him to be able to have a shot and opportunity and get to play and, and do it still in the state of Ohio. Like we're both in Ohio, which was, which was pretty cool and pretty neat. So that was, I remember when he got drafted on that Sunday, I was just ecstatic, like couldn't be happier for him. And it was obviously a pretty, pretty cool deal.


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[Assistant] Well, so is, so is Chinadu. And that's why, like, if, if you know Chinadu, he's as charismatic as I'll get out, we should have him on this podcast, cause...


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[Assistant] It's awesome. And the other thing that people don't understand is he switched. He was my wide receiver, you know, so he was who I throw to and he transitioned to safety.


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[Assistant] So I remember, I mean, we lived together our senior year, uhm, I remember talking to him about the transition, if it was going to pay off, you know, going to safety, and he had an unbelievable game, I think, uhm, it was with Air Force and a couple others. He had some great games, just a knack for always being around the football.


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[Assistant] It's way better when you're able to make it with people that also sacrificed and also worked extremely hard to get there too. And that was the thing, man, like we knew each other in basketball, baseball, football, everything. So there's those moments that will happen in this draft. And like, those are the things that I think are the coolest part about sports.


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[Assistant] Is the who gets picked draft show, but Brinson, start us off with some underrated draft picks.


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[Assistant] Drafted position. So let's talk about the Raiders. Right now the favorite is a quarterback plus 160. Then you got defensive back plus 170. Down the line, uh, Pete Prisco, I was reading, thinks that they will go quarterback, likes Will Levis there. A lot of commotion about maybe trading up, trading down for some offensive line. Wilson, what do you think?


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[Assistant] First drafted position odds, but we're going to take a quick break. Before we do, let's just get into the other football, CBS Sports Galazzo Network, the first this kind free 24 seven channel dedicated exclusively to global coverage of, uhm, alright.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 podcast. If you're not following us on social, what are you doing at Pick 6 pod across all social media platforms? Moving on, let's talk about the New York Giants first drafted position according to our friends at Caesar's, the favorite horse wide receiver minus 110. Then you got defensive back.


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[Assistant] Plus 200. O Lyman plus 700. It goes down from there. When I took a look at some of the odds of who maybe they're going to take at that 21 spot, I see Zay Flowers plus 350 odds. Quentin Johnson plus 375. Princeton, what do you think?


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[Assistant] Hard attitude. Baltimore Ravens, they are favored to take defensive back now since they got Oduckham Jr. plus 125, right receiver 160, and then defensive lineman edge plus 550, quarterback 600. We still don't know what's happening with Lamar Jackson, but I'm pretty sure he's come back to Baltimore. Wilson?


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[Assistant] Yep. Alright, moving on to the Bengals. Uh, they're favored to take a tight end. Plus 130, defensive black, plus 280, offensive lineman, plus 375. Some tight ends that are floating around. Michael Mayer from Notre Dame, Darnell Washington from Georgia, Dalton Kincaid from Utah.


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[Assistant] Wilson, or actually I was with Breach because this is your team. Do you think they go tight end or are you looking for more value down the line?


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[Assistant] Okay guys, we're gonna take a quick break. We gotta move through these. We have more first round positions coming up next on the Pig Six Podcast. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson, John Breach, and Ryan Wilson. Today is the Who Gets Picked show. I don't know, Pick Six, Who Gets Picked? It's a, it's a tough, uh, tongue twister for me there today.


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[Assistant] We are using six teams. Yeah, so that just adds to all of this. Alright guys, keep up with us all week long for more NFL offseason coverage. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page. Let's move to the Pittsburgh Steelers.


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[Assistant] Alright, last but not least, let's talk about the Jets. If you're gonna get Aaron Rodgers, you gotta be able to protect him. Offensive lineman, heavy favorite, the heaviest we've seen, minus 300. Then you got defensive lineman edge, plus 250. Wide receiver, plus 1400. I don't know if he's getting everybody on his list. Princeton, what do you think?


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[Assistant] You're gonna lay off of this unless you're gonna be like Brinson and sprinkle a little on the 4 to 1 or the 14 to 1.


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[Assistant] Alright, well let's Costanza and leave on a high note after that joke because I know people got places to go. Thank you for watching the Big Six Podcast. Make sure you join us next week at 1pm for more NFL offseason coverage. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page, listening to audio, do the same, download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We'll see you next week.


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[Assistant] At least mimosas, uhm, definitely should have had a party hat of some kind. All I have is this giant swirl of a cowlick that's going on in my head right now. I need a, need a haircut.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, it's uh, inbox is being flooded right now with press releases from NFL teams who aren't officially allowed to announce signings until four o'clock. Now they can do that. We can, uh, anyone can talk to Lamar Jackson now officially and tampering is no longer a problem. Anyone who's like, if you're like, if you're an NFL player.


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[Assistant] You know, you've been talking to teams and, but like now, you know, your free agency has begun, even if, although it is, I mean.


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[Assistant] That party's like kinda, I sorta wish they would've just started at 4 o'clock on Monday.


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[Assistant] Uh, the commandos. That bums me out. Um, yeaah, I was kinda hoping jacobi percent would go to the panthers. They of course landed Andy Dalton. I thought just a nice fit with...


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Brissette and Frank Reich, who would, who would work together. I would guess that Brissette maybe saw the tea leaves, um, believe, cause your Andy Dalton's just has been a backup for the last few years. Uh, Brissette.


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[Assistant] I've started, you know, started when Sean Watson was suspended, has to think that he could, I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would guess that if you're like, if Sam Darnold, so like, I would, I mean, I would just guess that the commanders, like, I think they probably wanted to find the guy who gave them the most upside as a starter.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, and I think Berset, like as you, as you point, like, I mean, I said it and you said it, right, Katie? Like I'd rather have Berset with the Panthers. You'd rather have Berset with the Niners. Berset would rather be with a team where he thinks he can start and worth noting, Jacoby Berset, I


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[Assistant] I'm like 99% sure this doesn't have an agent as well. So that may be a case where there's no, this had been agreed to, but there's no tampering because who's going to leak it out? Like just, I don't like, don't even say anything. You know what I'm saying? Like there's no agent to leak out numbers. You don't need to get it out there.


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[Assistant] Cause agents always want to do that on Monday. So that, that actually makes a lot of sense that this tampering could have occurred.


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[Assistant] And you know, the team didn't really care to leak it out because it's, it's, you know, they're not paying them, probably not paying them a ton of money. Um, that's kind of interesting.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. I think there's a really good chance that Jacobi Berset could end up beating out Sam Howell. Like.


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[Assistant] They don't, I don't think they're gonna, I don't think they're, you know, they might have like a, a bet, you know, when the, when the two teams play, they didn't like cross over, they don't have a B for anything like that. Um, but it's, you know, you have Jacobi Percet who could beat out Sam Howell and give you a nice four.


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[Assistant] But also you have a guy in percent who's not going to rock the boat and be a problem if for some reason, um, you know, howl wins the job. And I think, you know, so I think, you know, in a perfect world, the commanders would love somehow to beat up.


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[Assistant] You don't, you know, he's not nearly as mobile as you think he, like you see him. Like he's not a mobile quarterback. Like he can run, but he's really not a mobile quarterback. It's kind of interesting.


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[Assistant] I mean, Juju Smith-Sushar is only 26, by the way, which is just crazy, but you had Jacobi Meyers who's also 26. I mean, they're the same age. It's pretty wild.


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[Assistant] You know, Juju Smith Schuster got in a bunch of hot water with the, with the Steelers cause he was, you know, loved to be on social media, loves his TikTok. And he's with the Chiefs and like, he was, he was, he was pretty quiet about it most of the season, but then you have like stuff just around the Superbowl, the trash talk afterwards, but you just wonder like, how is he going to, is he like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like we were talking about before the show. I mean, like that ain't Belichick style. Like Bill Belichick and Juju Smith Schuster seemed like an odd match. I will say that, um, the offense.


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[Assistant] Presumably that they'll run, you know, juju does seem like a player who would fit very well in what the Patriots want to do from an offensive standpoint. But again, you had Jacobi Myers there, somebody who you'd.


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[Assistant] You scouted. You scouted and you picked up as an undrafted free agent.


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[Assistant] You knew what he had in the building and so you replace him with Juju Smith Schuster at basically the same price. Allen Lazard, by the way, got the same contract too. It's like all these wide receivers are getting...


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[Assistant] These $11 million per year deals that are basically one year deals disguised as three year contracts.


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[Assistant] It is worth noting that the Patriots have for a very long time.


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[Assistant] Been very reticent to give bigger contracts to, um, undrafted or really late round guys, particularly the undrafted guys that they picked up and turned into, you know, high quality products like, like Malcolm Butler.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they, they, he succeeded in New England. They let him walk. Um, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. And then now you have Jacobi Myers. So I mean, I don't know if that's like a principal thing where you


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[Assistant] You know, you don't want to, obviously the one big exception is Tom Brady here, but like, you know, I mean, I don't know, it's weird, like Edelman and, you know, like, I mean, they've kept some guys, but it's just that undrafted factor really seems to, they don't want to give a contract.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, wasn't there talk of that? They were looking at other possible wide receivers too.


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[Assistant] And let's not forget too that like, I mean, you know, the, the chiefs just won the Superbowl at Juju Smith Schuster, ostensibly operating as their number one wide receiver, whatever you want to call it. They got Travis freaking Kelsey. Like the Patriots don't have Rob Gronkowski. Sure as hell don't have Patrick Mulholland or Tom Brady. I mean, no offense to McCorkle Jones. It's just like, it is, it is, it is, you sort of wonder, like did Bella, I mean, and I don't, I don't want to question Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] Okay, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think Boston people are Boston, like in, in, in Southie, they're getting a little loose on Belichick, but like, you know, I think, like, it's, the arrogance you mentioned, it's sort of,


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[Assistant] He's like, well, I mean, you know, we did it. We, we made the playoffs with like, you know, Edelman and Welker and it's like, yeah, but you had Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] You know, if Mac Jones becomes a great qu- and, and in, in fairness to Mac Jones and Belichick, the, the utter idiotic, like idiocy of rolling with, uh, Joe Judge and Matt Patricia last year was an obvious setback.


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[Assistant] Victor Garcia says there's no way the paths are done. I would agree. I think they have to add more pass catchers, but it's just like you can, we can now, I think at this point in time.


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[Assistant] Without ripping Belichick, without calling it a question, his ability to build a roster to whatever it is, we can at least say, because for the last 25 years, you couldn't say like, if Belichick made a move, you're like, look, if somebody else did this, I would, or if the Browns did this, I would be like, what the hell are you thinking?


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[Assistant] But Belichick did it, so I'm, we're gonna give a pass. I think now with what we've seen in the post Brady era, it is okay to say, hey, like,


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[Assistant] I would, uh, sorry, I was texting my buddy Zeke to let him know that Brissette's going to the commanders. Zeke is in a, uh, Zeke has been in a, Zeke is obviously an NC State fan, uh, went to school with me. He's been in a, uh,


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[Assistant] So the Nats got rid of everybody, um, and NC State never wins anything. And you know, so he has the commander still there, but he's been in like this sort of, um, very dark headspace because he's, he's convinced that Sam Howell, a Carolina


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[Assistant] You see the numbers, you know, the points per game, you know, they went up two points per game when Poirier was out. I mean, is Leslie Fraser taking the year off?


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[Assistant] You have a track record of Leslie Frazier with this defensive group.


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[Assistant] Having, you know, putting up pretty stout numbers. Now they've been weak against the run at times, and the pass rush hadn't been great, but that's more of a personnel thing than I think a Leslie Frazier issue. So now...


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[Assistant] You really need some consistency in terms of your personnel if you're going to be losing that defensive coordinator, especially in this particular defense. And you have Sean McDermott said, they'll be fine. McDermott said.


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[Assistant] That was a great defensive coordinator, uh, with the Panthers and briefly with the Eagles. Um, but like you're going to, you're going to need that. You want these veteran safeties on the back end because they are the keys to this, this particular defense. And if you have those veteran safeties on that back end, it's going to make.


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[Assistant] Whoever takes a DC job, whether it's, it could be Sean McDermott calling plays, it's just going to make life a lot easier. So I think this is a, this, if you're.


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[Assistant] When you go back, when you go back and look at this offseason, I think there's a decent chance that this could end up being like the most underrated signing of the whole offseason, uh, if Buffalo wants to stay in the mix as an AFC power.


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[Assistant] I, I actually was watching, maybe it was actually a Maccabee show today, uhm, which I might just start, I like, I don't, I don't usually watch it like daily. Yeah, it was fun.


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[Assistant] I think that they were saying like, it's like Pac-Man Jones and, um, Boston Connor specifically were like the Bill's window is closed, which I think is, I think it's a little too early for that. I mean, you've got Josh Allen, so you're not, you know, um, like you're not, you're not like your windows not closed. Excuse me.


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[Assistant] Your window's not closing when you got Josh Allen, you know?


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[Assistant] I think it's too, it's, it's, it's for me, it's too expensive because


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[Assistant] Eventually, you're probably going to, you're more than likely going to get in a spot.


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[Assistant] Where, so like you're taking about what, five to one or something like that, where, I mean, like you can just wait till the AFC championship game and taking it like plus.


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[Assistant] Like two to one, you know, wait till the, you know, because they're going to get past the Chiefs at some point anyway. So for me, I don't like to dabble in that end of the, that end, but like it would not surprise me if the Bills won the Superbowl. Um, it's just the AFC, the AFC is going to be really hard for the next five years. Like this is Patrick Mahomes is just Tom Brady 2.0 in terms of where there is.


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[Assistant] The path to getting to the Super Bowl is going to go through Kansas City.


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[Assistant] Four out of five years. And if you can't beat the Chiefs in Kansas City, you're probably not going to play in the Super Bowl and they're going to be.


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks, Philip Rivers comes to mind with Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Because Patrick Mahomes exists on planet earth and he's just going to, I mean, that's just the reality. And then you also have, so like.


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm not closing anything with the bills until Josh Allen's gone, but I mean, it's just going to be hard.


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[Assistant] Look, Burrow's gonna get paid, Herbert's gonna get paid, Mahomes got paid, Deshaun Watson got paid, Lamar Jackson might get paid. I mean, like, there's just a lot of quarterbacks in the AFC who are going to take up huge cap spaces, and this is where, uhm, it does come down to it.


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[Assistant] Like, front office, your front office work is gonna matter, right? Like, the ability, you see what the Chiefs did, your ability to surround Patrick Mahomes, you know, with Juju Frohn, a one-year deal. You know, you've got Nicole Hardman who can, you know, you have all these people, like, they lose Tyreek Hill and don't miss a beat. In fact, win, win the title. Uhm, so it's like, Buffalo is gonna have to sacrifice some stuff.


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[Assistant] And the question is, can they effectively replace it and keep, you know, it's, it's, it's hard to stay on top in the NFL really, really, really hard, even with a quarterback. Uh, and that's where, you know, and you lose Joe Shane, you lose Brian Dable, you know, Leslie Frazier going for a year. You just have attrition when you win. And so it will, you know, like, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's going to be, it's going to be tough.


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[Assistant] Fun fact. Fun fact. Oh, Tampa Baker. I like that actually. Uh, I like that a lot. So, fun fact.


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[Assistant] Uh, Sully, you probably remember what pick Tom Brady was, right? Yes. What was it? 199.


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[Assistant] At both of the places he departed were the number one overall pick, Cam Newton and Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Baker Baker definitely not can actually wanted to VP and you know, it's, it's criminally underrated, but I digress. Um, I, you know, I thought that, uh, so Steven Oh, who does the sports science Sims for, uh, for us posted or he sent in.


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[Assistant] With Kyle Trask as a starter, they go from 6.4 wins to 7.6 with Baker Mayfield. And I thought Stephen made a great point in his email that he sent to all of us.


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[Assistant] Personally, if I were Tampa Bay, I would tank for the 2024 quarterbacks. And I think this is probably going to be a prevailing sentiment, um, across the board. When you talk about the Bucks and Baker Mayfield in that it does Baker, they're sending him to a one year deal.


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[Assistant] He's gonna, he's gonna battle with Kaltrask, as you see on the grab sheets.


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[Assistant] Is, if Baker Mayfield comes in and helps you win one or two games.


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[Assistant] Did you really just shoot yourself in the foot with a cannon, no less, uh, by virtue of moving yourself from a possible top five pick?


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[Assistant] To a possible top 15 pick, because if you're, if you have a top 15 pick, you probably not get a quarterback. You know what I'm saying? Like, like is Baker make them just good enough where they're not going?


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[Assistant] Now, and in the defense of the Buccaneers, like, you know, you can't, I think there's probably one team out there, uh, this year and it's the Colts who might be tanking for the 2024, uh, draft class. Um, you know, like if, if I just sort of been thinking this lately, like there's a decent chance that they just decide to draft the best player available for and then say, we're going to suck this year and we're just not going to have a quarterback, but I don't think Tampa Bay wants to do that.


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[Assistant] You know, the Glazier family is, is not scared to fire people. Um, you have, uh, you know, like they're really like quick turnover, even, you know, Jason light and top balls with the championship. And so now like, you do want to go out and get somebody, you look around the division. I mean, the Panthers have Adi Dalton, the Saints have Derek Carr, you know, I mean the Falcons have Desmond Ritter.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, it's like, it's possible Baker could compete in that division.


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[Assistant] In fact, 2023 Tom Brady might be better than 2023 Baker Mayfield. By the way, let's not forget too, like they're changing offensive coordinators.


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[Assistant] Bowls, I think bowls with Baker Mayfield has potential for disaster.


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[Assistant] You're going to pair the quarterback with the coach and you end when you have the number one overall pick and you're firing your coach, which a lot of times happens because you know, your team stunk. If there's a good quarterback class, it's a much more attractive job. Like in theory, just in theory, the hypothetical where if Sean Payton doesn't take the Broncos, maybe he's like, Ooh, Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would point out too, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna be on my, uh, my good friend Dave, Dave, friend of the podcast, Dave Damaschek's, uh, show tomorrow. It's the minus three podcast. I'm sure subscribe and check and I for the last, um,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like Cam was number four one year, like when Jamie Swenson was a rookie potentially. And now it's like Ritter, Trash, Baker, and Derek Carr. Like what? Oh, what is happening? The interstate South, the mighty has fallen.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Can you name the last, um, the last defensive back that the Philadelphia Eagles took with the first round?


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[Assistant] I don't know, that's by virtue of where he's picking, where you, you know, you have some uncertainty, like, you know, cause it's.


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[Assistant] He doesn't want to try and force it with a cornerback in the first round, or he just believes you build in the trenches. Whatever the case may be, it would be a stunner if the Eagles took a cornerback in the first round.


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[Assistant] For sure. I'm just saying that like, I just don't, like, I mean, it wouldn't be stunning if they draft, I mean, I actually take that back. I would be stunned if they drafted a cornerback in the first round, but I mean, if it's a position of, if you believe it's a position of, if there's a guy there that they love, you know, they could do it. I just, I really don't think that, especially where they're picking, like,


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[Assistant] Oh god, who did the Broncos take? Patrick Sertan, uh, the second. Like those are like.


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[Assistant] You know, you, you just have to have a belief and a conviction that you have a guy who could possibly be a lockdown corner if you're going to pull the trigger on that. Uh, and I like, I just, and so I think, um, I think it's like all depends on, um,


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[Assistant] Sort of the, the, the cornerback class, maybe more so than the Eagles and where they're picking.


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[Assistant] Derek Singley. No, no, no. Look, there's nothing wrong with taking a cornerback in the first round. Especially if you take him high because you usually have those elite cornerbacks. I'm just saying it is not the Eagles' MO to do that. Which would make it surprising unless there's a guy who they really have a conviction on being a lockdown corner.


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[Assistant] Zeke Elliott, the Cowboys, I don't think they announced that they released it. They just sent out a tweet that said, thank you, Zeke Elliott. It's like Jerry Jones. Like don't, don't even. That football is not very easy. Got it. I really didn't.


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[Assistant] Zeke Elliott was, uh, I think it's fascinating that it is kind of interesting that you're in the same year that Zeke Elliott's being cut by the Cowboys, uh, Jalen Ramsey traded for the second time in his career. So he's moving on to his third team, but like,


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[Assistant] If you drafted, which I always bring this up because it's, it's, it seems painfully obvious. Zeke was a great running back. Uh, Dak won rookie of the year, but Zeke could have easily been rookie of the year. They won the division when he had Dak rookies.


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[Assistant] If you'd gone Jalen Ramsey and then gotten either, I think Derek Henry is in the draft. Is it Nick Chubb too? Derek, you could have gone Jalen Ramsey, Derek Henry.


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[Assistant] And then later added Dak Prescott, uh, in that draft, which would have been, you know, pretty good.


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[Assistant] Zeke was awesome. He had won the rushing title twice, 72 total touchdowns, 10,598 yards.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he had some off the field stuff. I'm assuming the NFL, um, was, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] Was a great run blocker. I just think it's a, it's a, it sort of reminds you that, you know, as good as Zeke was.


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[Assistant] They could have, like, it's, I mean, they could have had, they passed on Jalen Ramsey for Zeke and then took Jalen Smith, uh, instead of being able to take, uh, Derek Henry. It was just like, it was, it was there, you know, like it wasn't a, it's not a, well, this, this, this, it's a, it was just there.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think uhm, did we say the Bucks? No, I don't know about that. I mean, lookit, was Leonard Fernet, was he the, was he Christian McCaffrey's class or was he Zeke's class?


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[Assistant] I will say too, like Billy, Billy pointed out just in Slack where we were talking about, like he wouldn't, you know, the cat eagles do have a, you know, a history of signing, uh, former Cowboys players. That would be the sort of thing that, um.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, uh, that would be the sort of thing that, uhm, where,


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[Assistant] It's maybe spite motivates C Kelly a little bit. You get two, uh, you get two good matchups there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, anyway, I think, alright, so like, my take is that


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[Assistant] Assuming you don't have to give up too much. I mean, that's the whole thing. It's like, don't, you can't, you can't give up. We talked about this and we've heard the reports after Aaron Rodgers was on.


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[Assistant] The, uh, the Pat McAfee show, we, we had a, we have a Katie's first emergency podcast.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that Rogers, the sort of the reports that came out of that after, you know, Rogers pointed out that the Packers were holding this thing up is that they don't want.


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[Assistant] They don't need two first round picks, but they're, it's just this back and forth. This is how it goes when you've got this big time.


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[Assistant] Like a firm first round pick for it. And it's like a conditional type of type of pick. Then the jets are definitely winners. I don't think that the Packers are.


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[Assistant] You know, I think right now in the heat of the current moment, maybe you could call the Packers losers because of the way that Rogers flipped this on them, making them, making them look like the, you know, the reason.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, agree with that. Sorry. Chrome, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.


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[Assistant] I was just going to say that like for me, the Packers are maybe like losers right now because of how this is going to play out. If Rogers can convince everyone that it is the Packers fault, that this is all happening.


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[Assistant] You know, when the separation happens, it's probably best for both parties.


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[Assistant] You know, you don't, you know, you don't want to like put it on one person or the other.


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[Assistant] And while, you know, if Air Rogers wins a Super Bowl with the Jets, the Packers are losers. If Rogers misses the playoffs and Jordan Love takes the Packers to the playoffs, regardless of whether the AFC and the NFC, you know, the power structure over there, then we're going to say that the Packers were winners.


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[Assistant] And you could also make the case that the Packers have a chance to be winners long-term here too, where if they're able to Jordan love becomes a franchise quarterback, you know, like Roger's first season, like eight games in far was winning with the jets and Roger's, I don't think was.


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[Assistant] Double check. I don't, I feel like the, um, you know, I feel like Rogers in his first season as a starter. Yeah. He went six and six to 10. Is that right? 2008? Sure. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's six to 10 as a starter in his first season. So, and then you have, you know,


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[Assistant] We're at Favre, who's winning, so like six or so games in.


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[Assistant] You know, it was like, oh wow, this, uh, when they started two and three, so let's say five games into the 2008 season. I think people were probably like, oh my God, the Packers might've made a mistake here, you know?


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[Assistant] So it's, it's going to be difficult to sort of balance that and say, like, you don't want to jump all over Jordan love five games in and be like, if Rogers is winning games, it's, it's, it's, there's several different complex layers to picking the winners and losers here. I think of the Packers extract themselves with a minimal cap hit and.


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[Assistant] And Jordan Levins at being good, then they're winners. But if he, if he's not, you know, there's, there's, there's a lot of different pathways for this one.


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[Assistant] Whatever, you're, you're a winner Katie Mox for, for, we're keeping it under an hour. What do you think this is?


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[Assistant] From day three, from sort of like the day one. Sully, do you have anything that stands out to you? I'm trying to think who.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, it does. I mean, it does. I think I agree with that. I think, you know, when you look at the, so the Panthers, they, uh, locked down, uh, Bradley Bozeman.


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[Assistant] Hayden Hurst is their number one pass catching weapon now that DJ Moore is gone. Which is, again, like I'm saying, it's a little bit odd. It is, it is really going to be difficult to...


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[Assistant] Ask a Bryce Young or CJ Stroud, a Levis, and certainly an Anthony Richardson, even an Andy Dalton.


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[Assistant] To come in here and win games with these sort of weapons. Now we have seen Frank Reich offenses and remember their top running back is Chuba Hubbard too. Like this offense, Frank Reich can, can, can do some stuff with the offense, but I agree with you. I think there's.


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[Assistant] They got one draft pick in the first two rounds in the next two years.


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[Assistant] I think we can throw, I mean, we've mentioned the Patriots already, but I think you can throw the Patriots in, or Mac Jones in as a loser, you know, I mean, uh, you know, with, with, uh, uh, my boy, uh,


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[Assistant] Um, specifically on Wednesday, specifically on Wednesday. Well, and this is what's happened. We, you know, we talked about this. It's like all the stuff that happens on Monday, Tuesday is basically announced at four o'clock on Wednesday. And there's, I mean, you know, I mean, I think you could


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[Assistant] There's not a ton of, uh, I would say losers to Jets fans who thought they might get some resolution today with Aaron Rodgers. Uh, you know, but you can't like, you know,


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[Assistant] Oh sorry, I was going to say, you look at the top 100 free agents, I mean, this free agent class is okay.


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[Assistant] It's, it's been, Orlando Brown's still out there. Um, you know, now Darius Slay is out there. We have Erdo Beckham still, um, your Dalton Schultz. There's just not a lot of.


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[Assistant] There's not a lot of juice in this free agent class and we've seen sort of the top parts taken off. I mean, I don't think we're going to see a ton of drama, you know, in over the next 48 hours, unless there's some kind of crazy trade.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just saying like in general, this free agent class is like, we've seen a bunch of defensive tackles and off ball linebacker sign backup quarterbacks. There's just not, there's not like a ton of juice to this class. Um, if Roger's going to get traded, we know there's only one landing spot for him to go to.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's just, it's like, it feels, unless there's some surprise lurking over the horizon and that surprise usually comes in the first hour of the free agency opening. So I don't know. I think it, I feel like we may be sort of settling into a.


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[Assistant] We may, we may be very quickly into the second wave and even third wave of free agency more quickly than usual.


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[Assistant] I like how Billy is like commenting the chat just so he can post it on the screen. Like when it's about the.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS Daily NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Tyler Sullivan.


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[Assistant] Did, did we give, have we done final four picks yet on this show? Have we discussed what we're doing on Saturday?


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[Assistant] There are men that dye their hair gray to look more sophisticated in jobs like like real estate in New York City.


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[Assistant] Younger guys will dye their hair gray because you feel better by a multi-million dollar apartment from someone with gray hair rather than.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, let's talk win totals. I see James Gonzalez in the chat. He's got some jokes. He says Katie goes SF 17 and 0. Maybe, but we're not starting with them quite yet. We're looking at the NFC South.


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[Assistant] First, you got the bucks at six and a half, like, oh, how the mighty have fallen. They're tied with the Colts for the lowest win total. They went eight and nine last year, but they are playing a first place schedule because they did win the NFC South last year.


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[Assistant] I have a hard time going over on this one. Brinson, what do you think?


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[Assistant] To predict, uh, Captain Spock said that. Okay, if we look at the Saints here, they're the highest win total in the division at nine and a half. They went seven and nine in back-to-back seasons. Of course, Bryson, you hit on this. Derek Carr coming in at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Is it conceivable that they'll get 10 plus wins when realistically, if you look at this, you only need nine wins to win the division it looks like.


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[Assistant] Possibly win team, but to your guys' point, it's too early to tell on them. If we look at the Panthers...


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[Assistant] Theirs is at seven and a half. Now they finished last year, seven and ten. So we're only talking about one more win here. They had a revolving door at quarterback, obviously ended the year with Sam Darnall, who's now uhm, with the 49ers. Now they're interesting because they now have the first overall pick. So a lot of this has to do


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[Assistant] Give back on their good graces. Okay, let's look at Atlanta. Seven and a half wins. They went seven and ten last year. They've actually managed to get seven wins in the last two seasons. I believe that they're well coached with Arthur Smith. He's just really lacked talent. I do think they've improved their roster, particularly on defense.


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[Assistant] The quarterback is an interesting scenario. They seem to be all in on Desmond Ritter, which I'm not so sure about, but they do have those great offensive weapons with Drake London, Kyle Pitts.


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[Assistant] Cordell Patterson. So I am tempted to go over for the Falcon.


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[Assistant] Moving on to the NFC East, formerly the NFC Least, and last year turned into the NFC Beast, waiting for Billy to chime in on this one, with the Giants. There went total eight and a half. They went nine and seven last year. It's interesting to me that books either think they're going to be the same,


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[Assistant] Or worse, considering you got Dable, who was amazing last year, you paid Daniel Jones. It seems like they've made a lot of good decisions.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know why this line is set at eight and a half. What do you think, Princeton?


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on to dem boys, cowboys, nine and a half. They've gone back to back seasons with 12 wins.


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[Assistant] But they always have the most lofty preseason goals, but they, they do well in terms of winning games. It's the postseason where they fall apart. So I am tempted to say that they will get at least 10 wins for the third straight year.


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[Assistant] I'm the only one that believes in the Cowboys, which is not something I would ever think that I would say actually before coming onto this show. Alright, moving on to the Eagles, and obviously we're gonna get Billy to chime in.


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[Assistant] 10 and a half. They went 14 and 3 last year. Billy, that's not happening again. I think you can probably recognize that 14 and 3 was like an outlier here.


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[Assistant] Oh god, Billy, are you, are you one of those that's like, oh, we want you, we didn't have a quarterback. We couldn't run an offense. Like you didn't, whatever. I could, I could really go off the rails if we, if we go down this. Yes.


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[Assistant] I could see, yeaah, I mean, I definitely see you over 10 or at 10, whether it's over 11 or not, I'm not sure. And yeaah, San Francisco will see the Eagles as a revenge game because we definitely want revenge when we have a quarterback, Billy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, moving on here to the uh, Washington commanders.


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[Assistant] Their season win total is, what, I think it's at nine, or seven and a half. They went eight, yeaah, they went eight and eight last year. Had a slow start, uhm, and then made up for it. They actually beat the Eagles. Billy, if you'll remember that one, last year.


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[Assistant] I think Ron Rivera's done a good job. There's so much going on with like selling the team and what's going on and what we're going to do for a quarterback here that I don't.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I could see them getting 8 wins again, but I don't, I'm still hesitant to play that over.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's move on to the NFC North, where the Lions have the highest win total at nine. They win. Then, so just one more game.


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[Assistant] Do they need to win here? I actually love this over. I'm very high on the lines this year. They have upgraded their roster via free agency pretty extensively, especially with their defensive backs. They got CJ Gardner Johnson, Cameron Sutton, Emanuel Mosley.


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[Assistant] I just love this team. I love the coach. I love their, you know, their whole ethos. Uhm, I, I love them to be the Kings of the North this year, so I love this over for the, for the Lions.


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[Assistant] Seven and a half is their win total. I believe they got eight wins last year. Presumably no Aaron Rodgers. This is going to be Jordan Love's team taking over. I was looking at some stats when Rodgers replaced Favre in 2008.


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[Assistant] The Bears are getting better. The Vikings are still good even though they win those single possession games. Uhm, I can see the Packers taking a little step back.


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[Assistant] And Jimmy Garoppolo's Raiders. Yep. That's right. Jimmy G's Raiders. All right.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, next up, the Vikings. Their season win total is at eight and a half. They went 13 and four last season.


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[Assistant] The Vikings were the most fraudulent team, I think, in the NFL last year. The 13 and 4 was ridiculous. They had 9 plus single score wins. That was 13th, the 13th team to have that done of all time, only for the previous 12 teams returned to the playoffs the following season. Everybody knew they were a first round bounce out last year.


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[Assistant] Now this is down pretty low to 8.5 from the 13. I could see them still getting about 9 wins. So I'll go over, but I still think they're frauds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I, yeah. But the good news is we don't have to bet any of these quite yet. We can wait on some of them. The Bears is probably the most exciting team in the division. I mean, in terms of things that they've done in the offseason. Obviously the worst record last year went 3-14. Had the number one overall pick.


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[Assistant] Send it to Carolina for DJ Moore and then a bunch of other free agent additions, particular to their defense. And now all of a sudden bookmakers have them going at least five more wins.


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[Assistant] I love it. I think they could get five more wins because some of those games were a little bit close and we look at the beginning of the season. They they didn't know how to use Justin Fields yet. They've got him some some weapons. He's not going to be running himself into the ground, but I can see them getting five more wins. I like this over for the Bears.


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[Assistant] All right. On that note, we are going to take a quick break. You're watching the Pixie Six Podcast. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the pick six podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Tyler Sullivan. Today is the NFC win totals over under show. Make sure you join us all week long to keep up to date on all the NFL off season news and remember to like, comment, subscribe on our YouTube page. Now we're moving on to the best division guys. The NFC West.


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[Assistant] And we were starting with the team that I probably dislike the most except for the Eagles. The Rams. 7 and a half. Now the Rams went 5 and 12 last year.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're gonna be that bad again. Obviously health and stuff got in their way. I do think to a certain extent they sold their souls for that Super Bowl win at home in their own stadium and it's still coming back to bite them. If you look at their schedule, they don't have a cakewalk. They got the Bengals, the Niners, Eagles, Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Alright, now for the best team. The San Francisco 49ers have the highest win total at 11 and a half. They went 13 and 4 last year. Retained


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[Assistant] Most of the team, I mean, I know McGlinchey is gone, but we got Javon Hargrave from the Eagles. Uh, the, obviously the biggest question mark here is quarterback is


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[Assistant] So if we have one quarterback that starts for at least most of this season and we've retained a lot of our offense and a lot of the defense, I think that 12 wins.


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[Assistant] Is feasible. Um, but yeah, this early in the season, especially without the quarterback question marks, it's hard to say they're going to have another 13 and four season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, obviously good point about the coordinators too. When there was D'Amico Ryan's that was filling in for Robert Sala, he was in the system for a long time. It was the same exact, you know, system basically. But yeah, with the Steve Wilkes, it might be a little bit different. So I see your point.


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[Assistant] Place that bet today, but yea, this win total of 11.5 is pretty high for March.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on to the Cardinals, the lowest win total in the division, just five.


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[Assistant] And a half, they went 14, 4 and 13 last season. And they honestly, I don't think they look any better than they did. They got a rookie head coach. They got rookie offensive and defensive coordinators, a rookie general manager. John Drake Hopkins is supposed to be moved. No more JJ Watts. I'm taking this under.


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[Assistant] And a half, they went nine and eight last year. So we're looking at basically the same as what they did. Gino Smith, of course, finally got paid. I believe, I can't remember if it was Brinson or Seller, maybe both of you that said that maybe we've seen the best that we've seen from Gino that you can't maybe expect him to have a better year than before, but they are well coached with, uh, with Pete Carroll. It was Breach? Okay, it was Breach.