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[Assistant] There was not that much there to be had. I didn't look at the game and went, oh man, Carson Wentz is missing people open all over the field. How dare he? No, if Carson Wentz had any issues in this game is at points, I feel like he was a little too stationary in the pocket. Hey, nobody's open.


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[Assistant] Get out, move. You know, press the issue. You're an athletic quarterback who throws a great on the run. The other thing I'll say he does too, to me.


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[Assistant] He locks onto Zach Ertz a little too much. I think there's a few times where I want to go, get off Zach Ertz. He's not going to be there in this play. Go to the next read. And that...


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[Assistant] Uh, and there was maybe one or two plays where I went, he played the one on one shot, right? Like there was, there was a single over here and he went, I'm going to go for the go ball or the post. And I want to go, Ooh man, if you just played the three man concept over here, you're going to get a 10 yard completion.


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[Assistant] So, I think there was a little bit of that. That's hard to always do because in his coaching, they're told them at times, you got man to man with this guy, we'd like you to take a shot. So that's not always like, he's not going to be graded negatively by his coaches when he does that. The big thing to me more than anything, and, and, and Ertz had a good day.


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[Assistant] But the, the Patriots were not gonna let two things happen.


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[Assistant] They weren't gonna let the wheel route out of the backfield by the running backs beat them. They were all over that. That's been one of the staples of the Eagles team.


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[Assistant] Is, you know, back next to Carson Wentz in the shotgun, he looks like he's gonna run a flat route and then he goes up and the inside linebacker commits too hard to the flat route or gets caught up in some trash by one of the receivers over there. New England was all over that all day. So they took away that staple and then


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[Assistant] In a lot of big situations, they were trying to get all over Zach Ertz. They were very aware of what he was. At times, they put Stefan Gilmore on him in some certain situations. You just said, we're gonna let you man him up. Might as well. Right.


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[Assistant] Hey, Carson Wentz, when he did hit Zach Ertz, for the most part, he was covered like glue. He just threw a rifle right underneath his chin to where it's like, that was perfect coverage, there's nothing you can do, it was a perfect throw. And I think that really kind of sums up the game on that side more than anything.


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[Assistant] No, they do not. He puts a lot of stress in your defense. And again, just for the last time before we move on to the Vikings game a little bit.


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[Assistant] Again, there's nothing special in that offense right now. You just can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit sometimes. And they're not a chicken shit, like, but they're not an elite offense. They don't have elite talent.


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[Assistant] There's nothing in there that a game plan wise where a team is going, oh my gosh, we're shaking in our boots.


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[Assistant] Oh, we have to worry about Zach Ertz seven yards over the middle. Oh my gosh, this is going to be a scary day. You know, that's, that's really the big thing. They, they miss a Deshaun Jackson. They miss an Alessandro Deffrey. And then just to flip it over on the other side right now, Hey Brady and that they weren't real great. We know that same kind of story, you know.


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[Assistant] They're just, they don't have anything that scares you on the offensive side of the ball. Uh, the running game right now is not working to what they wanted to do. They want, they're built to run the football. Phillies defense is real right now. They are, they're healthy.


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[Assistant] You know, with Jalen Mills and Ronald Darby and Avante Maddox out on the edge, they can play man to man. The safety plays good. Fletcher Cox is healthy. So that is no like joke of a defense they played either.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I think they realized that this was a tough one and that they were like to what he said on his little interview on Monday.


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[Assistant] You know, they're a defensive team right now. He's, he's smart enough and man enough to check his ego at the door and go, yeah, it's third and eight. I'm just going to throw the ball down in the ground. Like I'm not going to let them get a four yard touchdown drive and, and do those types of things. He realizes he's got a special unit on the other side of the ball and he's just not going to force the issue.


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[Assistant] I mean, I get it too. You know, hey listen, it's new receivers. You got Nikhil Harry in there for the first time really. Mohammed Sanu still on the offense. You know, Julian Edelman's not having a great year. There's no Gronk. He drops. Yes. Right. So rare. The offensive line is not playing up to its capacity.


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[Assistant] And then I think that's also leading to Brady missing a few throws every now and then too, because he's just like the game feels crazy to him.


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[Assistant] Well, exactly right. Exactly. I mean, and that's one of the big things Philly did in the game, is they took away what I always call with them and the Saints, their bullshit plays. Like, just where plays are, you and me can complete it, but they gash people three, four times a game with those type of plays, and Philly did not let that happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, uh, it's a great question by Rhett, and not necessarily a dope design. I won't say that. I thought it was pretty good. Well, it's cool, but it's not like everybody's got this in their playbook. To me, uhm, uh,


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[Assistant] This was, this was the cool thing. It was cool that they were looking for the backside post off of a boot left, right? So that's what's cool about it. I think everybody has the play, not everybody alerts that guy on the play, okay?


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[Assistant] Like everybody has a play where I would give them dope is going to alert it during the week through preparation.


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[Assistant] That they play a defense where the safety is gonna jump the crosser, right?


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[Assistant] So, what they were in basically is what I would call like, gun eff left. You said it, there's in the shotgun.


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[Assistant] The running backs to his left, right? He fakes to the running back and then it's a bootleg to the left side, which they're amazing at. And what I would like to say is, I don't know where the hell that play went for three quarters. It's been the bread and butter all year. They out coach themselves a little bit in the first three quarters. Like I think they thought like,


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[Assistant] Vic Fangio's not gonna give us these plays this week. And they didn't call him. I was like, am I in the third quarter and I haven't seen a bootleg yet? Like what the hell is going on with the Minnesota Vikings? So I think they out-thought themselves a little bit from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] You know, to say this, so here we go. It's gonna have left, I called, I went in New England offense here. I went one, ride 134X post, right? And the, it was, it was three, four defense, right? Three down linemen, four linebackers. It was man coverage.


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[Assistant] On the right side is Diggs. And Chris Harris has him man-to-man. I think it was man-free. I think there's a free safety netball. Yeah, man-free, right. That's what I mean by man-coverage. You're right, I gotta explain that better. Man-free. William Jackson's in the middle. He's the middle safety, number 22, who's a hell of a player.


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[Assistant] Chris Harris is when at the snap of the ball, and I'll pull this up if you wanted to look at it, he is playing.


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[Assistant] Eight yards, six yards off, and I'm two or three yards inside. So he, to me, that tells you that, oh, I'm playing a coverage that if there's a crosser route, my safety's gonna take it. I need to stop the post route. That's what he, that's what his coverage and his alignment was all about.


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[Assistant] And so now the bootleg happens, uh, Cousins is booting to his left, he sets up, and to me where the beauty of this is, is, is, um, Stefan Diggs route.


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[Assistant] Stefan Diggs kinda comes off, kinda controlled, like, like, I'm not running real hard, I'm just gonna stride it out. And then as soon as he kinda got to about the 10 to 12 yard mark, he hit it. And he went zoom, and he crossed underneath Chris Harris' face. And Chris Harris was not supposed to let him go inside.


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[Assistant] He kinda gave him the, the rope-a-dope or the okie-dokie there where he goes, ah, I'm just chilling, I might run a clear out go, I'm not a part of this play. And then he went ZOOM! And Kirk Cousins to his credit, he booted out to the left, he saw he had nobody around him, and William Jackson does take the crosser.


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[Assistant] And bam, he throws really one of the best throws of the year for Kirk Cousins. He's not saying a lot because he's throwing a lot of damn good balls. He has. Yes, he has.


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[Assistant] See where he's lining up here? And we're taking a peek. So we're taking a peek. Radio. Radio. Here we go. You're better at radio than me, but either way. Okay. It's two receivers to the right. All right. Tied into the left. Another receiver to the left. Dalvin Cook in the shotgun next to Kirk Cousins to his left.


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[Assistant] He, now see, look where he is. Let's see, Chris Harris, I'm going to say is what, six yards off at the snap, clearly inside, right? He's on the edge of the inside numbers. I would say he's a yard and a yard half, Stefan Diggs outside the numbers. There it goes. Here goes Irv Smith on the crossing route. All right.


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[Assistant] Maybe he should be back over here. I don't know. Maybe he should be playing center field. If he is playing center field, he's wrong. They might be telling him to watch out for crossers.


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[Assistant] Maybe to watch something here. I think he ran with cousins and was a little bit thinking about the go route on the other side. You might be totally right. You might be totally right. I want to say they're giving him the freedom to kind of just play the eyes of cousins because of the way Chris Harris lined up to basically say, I'm not going to let anybody inside because my safety has his own set of rules for this play.


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[Assistant] But either way, see how he's kind of controlled? Like watch how he's controlling them, watch how Stefan Diggs hits it all of a sudden. Just boom, and all of a sudden he crosses his face, he throws his hands up, and you're exactly right.


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[Assistant] You're exactly right. And, you know, again, there was just a lot of high degree difficulties of throws other than the Mason, I mean, other than the Rudolph bootleg, where


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[Assistant] He's supposed to be, so just to hit that play. Speaking of. Yeah. Getting back to the- Sorry, let's go. Yeah, shut, shut, tell me to shut up sometimes.


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[Assistant] Yep, okay, alright, so, uh, so basically, again, another bootleg, which, again, I'm gonna reiterate, was crazy that we didn't see these plays a little more in the game in general, uh, early on. And this Denver defense is very good, and I'm getting to it just so we can all pull it up and watch it together again, uh, you and I.


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[Assistant] It is a bootleg left, and this is where a new guy and your defense screws it up.


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[Assistant] Duke Dawson, a guy they had traded with in New England Patriots. Alright, he is playing on this play, so to paint the picture for everybody, it's two tight ends. There's the tight end to the left, the tight end to the right.


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[Assistant] Stefan Diggs is the receiver to the left and 81 is the receiver to the right who I'm blanking on his name and it doesn't really matter for the purposes of this play. They're gonna fake zone right, right?


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[Assistant] Kurt Cousins comes out from underneath center, he's faking the run to the right from down the hook. Oops, he keeps the ball, boot left like we always see. Okay? They are playing a cover three defense.


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[Assistant] Right? And look at Simmons here. He's telling you as Rudolph is going across because he's lined up over Rudolph, he's yelling, crosser, crosser, crosser. And Duke Dawson for some reason is looking too much.


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[Assistant] at Kirk Cousins or maybe expecting somebody to come in the flat, but his job in this coverage is to pass off the crosser and be there. And it's too late before he sees it and the ball goes over his head and it becomes a wide open touchdown.


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[Assistant] Yes, well, and again, he's, this is a, this is one of the issues with like this, the cover three Seattle match defense. At times they tell you because he's got people underneath to take the short crossers and things like that.


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[Assistant] It's kind of one of the things that's susceptible to this. It's definitely zone. You're right. He should not go in all the way. He's got Simmons who's coming back to drop in there to try to take away the middle of the field. But yeah, realistically, he should not take those extra few steps in.


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[Assistant] There is nobody. There's nobody. Now I'm just, I'm just telling you the rules of the Seattle type match defense, but they're trying to run here. Okay. And again, Stefan Diggs, the receiver to the left is in a tight split.


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[Assistant] He's in a tight split, so that makes him tighter as well, right? He's lined up on the hash almost, basically.


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[Assistant] As the play goes, and they're not just gonna let people run across the middle of the field wide open. They're not. At some point, he's gonna match him, especially when the receiver to his side, the second receiver, the other tight end, Irv Smith does not go out. He has no indicator that, oh, they're gonna screw me over there.


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[Assistant] If this is just a good play at the right time and a guy who's supposed to be sitting here waiting for the crosser is not there. Do I agree with what you're saying with Chris Harris? Do I think he should stay over there a little bit more? Definitely.


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[Assistant] Like if you see, you know, I don't want to get too in the weeds here, but if you watch Seattle over the years, they're playing cover three.


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[Assistant] And if you ran a 16-yard incut on Richard Sherman and he doesn't see the slot receiver to his side threatening that third, he's


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[Assistant] But I know a lot about that defense, whether it's just my years in New England and friends around the NFL who I have a lot of conversations with. Those are just one of the rules of it. Again, if Irv Smith, the tight end here, did something somewhat to threaten that, I think he widens and stays wide.


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[Assistant] But because number two, the tight end, which is almost a slot receiver in this, he blocks, his indicators basically go, I have Stefan Diggs kind of man to man here. Right, right.


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[Assistant] Right play and Duke Dawson who's new in the system does not drop back and stay back in his area as the underneath coverage is trying to pass off a intermediate crosser. That's what this defense is all for. That's what killed Seattle. Think about


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[Assistant] The first play of the Super Bowl for the Denver Broncos. Alright, the first play was this Miss Snapp.


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[Assistant] The second play, when they get the ball back, Peyton Manning throws a shallow crosser to Demarius Thomas and he gets absolutely obliterated, right? Because everything was, they're in man to man.


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[Assistant] This is the beauty of the Seattle defense at the time. It looked like man, but they would pass off the crossers once you left your little, I'm playing you man, but only in this little area. And then once you leave this area,


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[Assistant] I go back to my zone, and that's where Kam Chancellor crushed Demarius Thomas, and that was the beauty of the Seattle defense in general. You're not buying me all the way here. I know. I could tell you're looking at your face. I'm listening.


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[Assistant] All I'm trying to tell people is what I see on film, my years of being around football and learning, these are things that I think happened here. I give you the benefit of the doubt. But in the NFL, with a good coach like Vic Fangio, week to week, little rules with certain defenses get tweaked and changed. So I don't know, I could be wrong.


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[Assistant] Three shots at the end zone. All three fall incomplete. All three fall incomplete. I mean, hey, they convert first off two fourths and six and a fourth and one on this last drive of the game.


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[Assistant] They call time, they're allowed, they had two timeouts going into this drive. They called two of the timeouts before the fourth, two of the fourth downs in general just to make sure, hey, let's get our new quarterback Brandon Allen and everybody there ready to go. So.


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[Assistant] You know, the big thing is, yes, they have a fourth down, a fourth and six, and Brandon Allen scrambles, right? He scrambles all the way.


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[Assistant] He scrambles to the right, and what does he get down to? What yard line is he on? I think he's on the four yard line, maybe? I think it's the four, right? He scrambles all the way down to the four.


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[Assistant] Now this is where offensive play callers and coaches get too greedy at times. Like, just go spike the ball, okay? When he goes down, alright, it's...


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[Assistant] They snap that ball at 27 seconds. When he goes down, you know, it's like 21 somewhere in there. If they just, if they just down it and spike it,


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[Assistant] It's gonna be probably 17 seconds left in the game. And you're gonna have three plays from


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[Assistant] The four yard line was 17 seconds. They got three off. They did get three. So this is where it ends up not being as a big a deal because they get three. Right. And this is where the other thing is.


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[Assistant] Because he is now going, wait, we're a little disorganized too, and I'd rather just call a timeout and coach my guys up real quick. Which I have no problem with that. Now you could've took the other way of like, New England versus Seattle in the Super Bowl, where Bill Belichick saw that the Seattle Seahawks were all flustered and crazy,


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[Assistant] So now the big thing is, the first play they run the fade stop. Correct. To the right side, 81 Patrick. That was the first and the third play. The first and the third play, right. First one's to 81 Patrick. Yep. The second play ends up being the Y out to Noah Fant, right? Yes. Right. Which was good coverage. Yeah. Right. I mean.


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[Assistant] Agreed. The other ones were 50-50 balls where you thought, ooh, this looks okay here, right?


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[Assistant] I don't think I would call them drops. I don't think I would call them drops. I would call them like I would like them to catch the ball.


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[Assistant] But, because we see it so much, but with the amount of contact and fighting there, I think it's tough. I do think it's a tough catch. Now, Noah fan at the end, you know, hey,


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[Assistant] Curses all over him. He's kind of pulling his shoulder and you could see the jersey detached from the shoulder a little bit and all of that. But again, I'm all for that. He also initiated contact when they ran into each other and he throws his hands into him, right?


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[Assistant] First off, spike the ball. Maybe you can change your last three play calls now because you don't have to worry about, oh, we just got to throw a ball and get it out of our hand real quick. Okay. That would be the first thing. Maybe you can do another play where it's a pick play and I can wait for people to cross and do things like this. And it might take the play might take five or six seconds each play, right?


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[Assistant] But now because they're trying to get three plays off in 10 seconds, they're going to do really like, hey, one on one, just get it out of your hand and throw it up and hopefully our guy can catch it. Right? Right. So that's where I think not spiking the ball hurts them added to the fact of


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[Assistant] That's all game long for 113 yards. He's not going to beat us. I give Zimmer a lot of credit for that. And then my last thing of this would be, man, you had all week to game plan and we just went with two go routes. Like that's what just drives me crazy.


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[Assistant] On the last play of the game, you can run one of those design plays. You know, you got as much time as you want.


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[Assistant] They had chances, you're right. They had chances, you're right. And really the game itself, they made those plays all game long. I mean the game, if you watch what Denver did on offense, it was throw it up to Cameron, uh, Cortland Sudden and throw it up to Tim Patrick one on one and they abused Rhodes and Trey Waynes throughout the game. So they went back to that well one more time.


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[Assistant] And I hope he's okay and I certainly didn't like and I give him, you know, I have a sympathy card for what happened to him at the end of the game, but we're just talking about football here. He was horrible.


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[Assistant] There's only one way to say it. He got Juju Smith Schuster hurt by throwing it into a mosh pit of defenders. There was no cheap shot there by anybody in Cleveland. He threw it into quadruple coverage. He got the guy killed. I mean, the guy hit him just running straight up. He didn't even duck his head. Greedy Williams. It hit him with his face. Cause he was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to intercept this. You just threw it into four of us. His motions too over the top for me, dad.


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[Assistant] Alright, Jameis Winston. This is one that's, you know, I always find tough. He threw four interceptions again too. I know you, I know we both think that his good...


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[Assistant] It's really good, but as bad as horrific. So what are your thoughts there?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got two arms. Like, he's got such a flexible arm. Sometimes he's so gifted that way. It was. It's like, to dad's golf reference, it was like he was, he was reaching back for 350 every time and you're just like 320 down the middle is fine. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Now I want to take a quick moment to tell you about something I'm doing with Campbell's Chunky Soup. Throughout the rest of the season, I'll be sitting down with former NFL players as we discuss the many ways that football is family. In the latest interview, in the latest episode, excuse me, I interviewed the dual threat legend, running back Matt Forte. Take a quick listen here. When did you know, like, okay, I'm, I'm


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[Assistant] On that page, you'll see all those interviews. I've done that. You know, my dad, I did him as the first one. Just did one with Santana Moss, right? The University of Miami legend and Washington Redskin legend.


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[Assistant] Uh, did one with my ex-teammate, Ronde Barber. So all these will be coming out. And really the big thing is, you know, Campbell's is doing a great thing here about football and family. All of our families were so important and integral in what we did on the football field. I know for you, for me, it's just, it's,


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[Assistant] They, I wouldn't be who I am and who weren't from my family and the support my mom and dad gave me and the things they taught me along the way. So that's why we're trying to dive into those things.


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[Assistant] You know, I just, again, football players, I don't feel like enough people know football players. We just look at them, hey, that's number 20 and the face mask.


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[Assistant] Nobody knows what makes like it's different than NBA and basketball where everybody gets to see their face and we know people and I take great pride in like, let's get the world to know some of these football players. They're not just on your fantasy roster.


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[Assistant] Well, game winning play, and you know, oddly enough, we talked about Bill Belichick, what, all out blitzing in big moments, right? Well, this was a big moment, alright? It's, it's third down. Dak Prescott's got the ball, he's in the shotgun, and here it comes, basically.


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[Assistant] It's not an all out, uh, it's, oh no, it is, I'm getting this, it's an all out blitz. They're coming. They're, they're, they're, they're gonna try to force the hand of Dallas.


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[Assistant] And, you know, not let him score a touchdown, maybe get a sack.


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[Assistant] This is in the DNA of a lot of defensive coordinators, and especially a Matt Patricia who, like Bill Belichick, plays man to man a lot, plays too much man to man, in my opinion, just to say that right off the bat, because he doesn't have Bill Belichick secondary. He doesn't have the talent there. So some of those guys, I just think it's a little unrealistic at times to be playing man to man.


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[Assistant] You know, the big thing is, and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this was the first screenplay Dallas threw the whole game.


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[Assistant] So, yes, it certainly wasn't a theme of the game where I was going, oh, the screens, right? I don't remember it, and I could be wrong, but either way, it was a very limited amount, but really a great call.


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[Assistant] You know, what happens is Prescott's in the shotgun, Zeke Elliott's to his right, and


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[Assistant] None of them, nobody in the front recognizes the screen. Cause they're all going, okay, coach called them, let's, we're going to go get them and they fly up. So nobody really has a feel for it.


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[Assistant] And basically what happens is Zeke Elliott kinda acts like he's in a block and then floats out to the right side. What a play by him. What a play by him. The beauty of the play was the catch, right? Yes. Because Dak did not throw a real good ball.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, it is where he, he is a gifted pass catcher. He is. Now, to last week, he's not necessarily a gifted route runner like we want. Not at all. But I get you. Yeaah. You're right. He's, he's got sweet hands. He catches the ball with each hand.


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[Assistant] I mean to keep his hand down. You're right. Exactly right. Uh, he is special that way and he's pliable and athletic. So they had Jason wasn't the right three receivers to the left. And because they're in cover zero, see the beauty of these kind of plays here is, you know, when nobody in the front


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[Assistant] kinda sniffs out the blitz itself. Everybody's in man to man coverage downfield, so their backs turn.


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[Assistant] So Dak Prescott, you know, he's kind of fading away holding the ball to let the receivers get down the field and let the screen develop.


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[Assistant] And, you know, nobody's paying attention because they're locked onto their man. And so that's where the beauty of the play is, let alone Travis Frederick, Zach Martin, they get out. Now the one guy that's there to be covering Zeke Elliott is, I want to get his name right, 44 Reeves Maybin, right?


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[Assistant] He's in a tough spot here because he is following Zeke Elliott out. He's about two to three yards off the line of scrimmage and he's, he's there. But the problem is that


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[Assistant] That when the ball is thrown to Zeke and he tries to like come down to make the play, they're already there to form a little wall around Zeke. And Zach Martin gets a hat on Reeves Maybin and he has no chance to make the play. Plus you said the great catch where Zeke then spins outside and you know the Red Sea parts. There's no one there. All that really has to happen after that is that


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[Assistant] Jason Witten, who is the receiver to that side, just has to make sure he gets a piece of the guy that's now recognizing, oh gosh, Zeke Elliott cut a screen, let me do it. He does a great job of kind of making a block, pushing the guy out of the way and, you know, uh, and Zeke kind of cuts inside.


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[Assistant] And gets a very easy touchdown, which really broke the backs of the Detroit Lions and put them in a tough spot with Jeff Driscoll at quarterback and everything like that. You know, the chances of them winning that type of game were not good.


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[Assistant] Oh, phew. He was phenomenal in this game. I mean...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's A+. Which part of his game do you like the best?


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[Assistant] I think the big thing I would take away really more than anything, it's his team, it's his offense. They are not playing like run-first football anymore. They are...


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[Assistant] They don't give him a lot of like slam dunk completion. No, they're not throwing like screens and he's not throwing like balls behind the line of scrimmage or three yards passes. Every ball is like 10, 20, 15, 20, 10, 20 deep shot downfield. I mean, again, a little like we talked with the Kirk cousins, the degree of difficulty in throws is pretty high, right? It's high. Yes.


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[Assistant] I think the last few weeks entered the rarefied air of like... Should he be in his MVP conversation? I think that's very fair. You know, I'm not gonna put him up there with Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson yet. I'm not. But I think he's in that next group down.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, he deserves to be it because they are playing through him. Again, I'm not all that impressed with Zeke Elliott right now.


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[Assistant] It is. It's about number four in Cha-ching. I mean, that's all you can say because he's gonna get paid big time money. He is. He's gonna, he's gonna, with the way he's played and the way he's, you know, if he continues to do what we've seen the last two weeks and all that, yeaah, he's gonna get something Russell Wilson type money and I'm not gonna have any problem with that.


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[Assistant] I think it is a special thing. I think it goes to a thing that I say a lot. I actually just talked about this in the radio and I'm glad you're even going here with it because I say this a lot. I don't know if you've heard me say it, but size is a skill.


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[Assistant] And his size and strength and power as a man, I think allows him to stand in there and go, I don't give a shit if you hit me defense end. You know, I'm, I'm, I can take it. I'm as big as you.


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[Assistant] And he does bring some juice to that a little bit. Sure does. I don't know what to say about Zeke, man. I mean, he's good, but he's not great to me right now. Maybe I'm wrong, man. You can tell me.


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[Assistant] They can give New England some issues. The big thing to me with Dallas, as long as Michael Gallup is healthy on the outside.


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[Assistant] And then you got a course of Mari Cooper and Randall Cobb work in the middle. Man, that's, that's a tough three with what you're saying. Good pass protection, a quarterback who is aggressive, decisive and fearless in the pocket. You know, that's dangerous, you know, and like we talk about with any good offense.


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[Assistant] A good offense makes you defend every square inch of the field. And Dallas does that through saying somewhat patient for the run game. And then when they drop back to pass, you know, I don't care if you're the cover three corner and you're 30 yards down the field, they will throw it 50 yards downfield over your head if you're not ready. And that's to me always a strength of a great offense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, it's a, let's see, tight end to the left, three receivers to the right, right? And uhm, the big thing is, more than anything, they got Michael Thomas in the slot, right? So he's there, and I'm gonna pull this play up just so I have it, just so we can look at it together.


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[Assistant] I think I might have passed it regardless. Let me see where I can get to it. Hold on.


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[Assistant] And they had this for, hey, we're playing top bowls and he likes the blitz. And if you see this look, Drew, you know, point your helmet and tell everybody check, check, check, or can, can, can, or kill, kill, kill, which means kill the first play I called in the huddle. You know, they might've had a run play. Maybe they had a play where all five eligible get out, right? Do something like that.


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[Assistant] They see from the alignment like, oh gosh, it's Blitz all the way. And these type of plays...


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[Assistant] Uh, and in my opinion and just knowing this offense a little bit because John Gruden and Sean Payton have a very similar offense. It's for one play and one player only. It's for this right here.


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[Assistant] And those two guys you're talking about on the outside of Michael Thomas, they're not even really running routes. It's like slants or sloppy post routes to basically just get in the way of the guy that's covering Michael Thomas man to man. They're bringing six blitzers. There is a free safety in the middle of the field. Okay.


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[Assistant] Well, I know he will, he's, his job is to protect the middle. So he's, he's worried about the post or even if Michael Thomas runs an inside release cross the field post, he needs to be there for that. I was wondering also,


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[Assistant] Definitely. Either way, he didn't get there. And here's the play in general. Now the beauty of the play, like you set it up perfectly and Michael Thomas has patience off the line of scrimmage. See how he kind of works it a little bit and he even kind of acts like he's going to go inside just for a second. So the two receivers outside of them can get up the field because he knows, Ooh, the little more I buy time.


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[Assistant] The more they'll get in the way of the guy that's covering me. And yeah, the safety, his bright lights look like he's looking for something over there. But either way with this route basically being, let's say a wheel route or, you know, an inside slot fade with a really wide departure.


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[Assistant] Uh, the corner that's covering him has no chance because Cameron Meredith does a good job of just, you know, slightly brushing him as he's trying to run by him. And now Michael Thomas has six, seven yards of separation. Drew Brees throws a safe ball, like basically right at his head. And it's an easy walk in touchdown.


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[Assistant] That's where they're amazing and that's where Sean Payton's amazing and then of course Drew Breeze being able to orchestrate the offense at the line of scrimmage and always get in the right play. All that. New Orleans does not waste plays.


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[Assistant] And, you know, hey, this game was 6-0. They had two long first drives of the game where they really chewed up clock.


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[Assistant] And, uh, then this play happened and it was pretty much like, okay, now it's 13 nothing and you're in deep crap Tampa. And then, you know, not to say it was game over, but it, it, it put Tampa way behind the eight ball and to have to struggle to come back this way. You know, New Orleans ran the ball well.


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[Assistant] They had a lot of great short design pass plays. Um, Drew was efficient.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I, I worry about them a little because they can't push the ball down the field. I want to go, I really wanted to go Tampa. Did you watch the film from last week? Did you watch the Saints game? Did you see them play last week? Like that's where I get frustrated with defensive coaches sometimes and go,


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[Assistant] Wait, you saw a team have a game plan that took away the stuff that New Orleans likes to do, and you just said, eh, no, we like to play this way. Like, I just don't understand that. You should have copied it. You copy it to a degree, right? Maybe within your own style and flow of your defense.


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[Assistant] Yes, copy the same theme. Don't just go, oh, this is what we do. And they're like, come on. Well, yeah, you know what you do. You got 27 points and you got torched and you died a slow death. That's the other thing. They have a high powered offense on themselves.


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[Assistant] And, you know, the first half, there's 30 minutes in the first half, they had the ball for 21 minutes and change. You know, the game in general, they had the ball for 37 minutes out of the 60 minutes.


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[Assistant] So there's Jameis Winston and Mike Evans and all them, who they have a lot of money and assets to. They're sitting by the Gatorade bottle, right?


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[Assistant] So they can't even do anything. Right. You know, that's, that's the beauty of the Saints. The Saints can overpower you. Sean Payton finds a lot of high percentage short passes. Drew Brees is a good decision maker. He's accurate that way. And when they get you in this kind of game, you're for lack of a better phrase. That's all there is to say it.


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[Assistant] Whatever, I don't care. For me, he'd be probably like four or five, alright? But either way, I'm putting him in the top five, which in any other thing in the world, people will be going, man, he's top five in the world at what he does. But with me, it's how dare you say he's not the number one. First of all, no, just because you lead the league.


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[Assistant] Well, I just think like, there's more dangerous people. I would put Mike Evans in front of him. I would put Tyree Killstill in front of him.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, I would really put Odell Beckham Jr. in front of him. I would. We're taking team stuff sometimes and just pinning it to a player. Listen, again, I'm not trying to be a jerk. He plays a huge part for this offense.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to sit here and go, whoa, the offensive coordinator designed to play through formation and great game planning for you to run a shallow cross and you're wide open now.


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[Assistant] And you did nothing really, and you got to run down the sideline for 41 yards, and I'm gonna go, oh my gosh, nobody in football could have done that. Or nobody could have caught the inside slant route that your coach got in the perfect position. First off, all you have to do to watch the Saints to know that teams don't think he's the number one or two receiver in football, is how they cover him.


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[Assistant] Nobody doubles Michael Thomas. Why do you think that is? Because he's good but they always feel like our guy is okay to cover him.


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[Assistant] Will you get screwed by the formations that some bind by Sean Payton? If he ever gets doubled, it's more because the teams go, in this situation, Sean Payton's gonna find some crazy way to throw to this freaking guy, so let's double him. Cause I don't know what he's gonna do or where he's gonna line up.


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[Assistant] But let's just try to get two on him. They're not like, we gotta double him cause we can't cover him. He's gonna run by us or, or just.


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[Assistant] So again, I'm not trying to like sojourn, I'm just, again, I'm a guy that likes to keep it real, and I hate bad narratives.


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[Assistant] And, and just because they're one of the better teams in football doesn't mean they have to have an MVP candidate. They don't. I'm sorry. Sounds like you'd vote for Sean Payton. Exactly. So who's the MVP of the 49ers then? Because they're the number one team in football. Who's the MVP of the New England Patriots?


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[Assistant] But because it's a receiver and it's sexy and we can see numbers that are towards the top of the league, everyone just jumps on a narrative. Absolutely not. I refuse to be that guy that's gonna do that. I'm sorry. I'm just telling you the truth of what I see. He's still a really great player, but to say he's an MVP of football to me is just not, not real.


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[Assistant] Uh, I had him going to the Super Bowl last year. I respect their physicality. They are a run first football team. They are a dink and dunk pass game and they beat your ass on the defensive side of the ball. And that is because of Sean Payton and Sean Payton is an amazing coach.


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[Assistant] And I'm not trying to take away things from those guys either. The players are really good. Their offensive line is one of the top in football. Their defensive line is one of the top in football. But I'm just trying to say just because he's leading the league in catches doesn't mean you're the best.


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[Assistant] MVP candidate in football. Okay, you're not when you're, you know, you know, I can also sit here and go, okay, yes, he's got a he's got 94 catches.


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[Assistant] Okay and it's like the next guy next to him, Mike Evans has 36 less and only, you know,


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[Assistant] 150 yards less. You know, he's averaging 12.1 yards per reception. You know, it is good, but I would also say Amari Cooper would be a better receiver to me. So there you go. I just, I had to say that. Now let's go. Okay, here we go. Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] The holy war. Yes. The holy war. Yep, I know. We're gonna be there. I'm looking forward to it. Uh, this is where Boston College super fans will descend on South Bend. And the most famous BC alumnus is our own Doug Flutie, the legend.


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[Assistant] Who will soon be celebrating the 35th anniversary of one of the greatest plays in college football history.


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[Assistant] Legend play. He just reenacted the play a few weeks ago at Boston College in their last home game of the year against Florida State. But either way, it's BC, Notre Dame, number 16, Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] Okay, and you can see this entire feature on the Hail Flutie during the game, Saturday, 2.30 Eastern on NBC. I'll be there freezing my butt on the sidelines while Paul is warm and cozy up in a booth next to my ex-teammate Ryan Harris, the offensive lineman. Also, we're doing a simulcast this week on NBC Sports Network.


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[Assistant] The Notre Dame fan feed with limited commercial interruptions featuring a couple random dudes named, um, um, Paul Burmeister and Ahmed Fareed. So that'd be really cool for fans that are true Notre Dame fans that want to hear a Homer broadcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then we do have the B.C. The B.C. Homer broadcast will be, uh, they're doing, and they will be doing something as well. And Pete Dimolittleilitis is a B.C. guy. Is he a B.C. guy? Yeaah. So, he's gonna be listening to that crap on that side, but you know. Is there really gonna be a B.C. guy? There is. There is a B.C. Homer thing too.


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[Assistant] One thing with the Kansas City Chiefs, if everybody wants to know what happened in the first half and the second half, they called shorter pass plays. Alright, that was the biggest thing. They gotta stop trying to throw the ball down the field.


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[Assistant] 50 yards every play. They need an inventory of screens and short passes galore when they play teams like the Chargers who play deep zone coverages to then make those teams come up. And that was the big thing I took away from the second half.


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[Assistant] Yes, was the first half w my homes is a little ove I get all that. Yes he w the play calling in the se three step drops, they're only rushing for their s Let's try to just get fiv instead of going 1st and down the field for secon down the field. And I jus one thing Kansas City has


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[Assistant] And now to another new segment. Yes.


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[Assistant] Is in the slot to his left and he has a receiver out to his left too. I can't tell who it is, but the point is we're talking about Cooper Cup here. Who's in the slot now.


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[Assistant] The great thing is, yes, this is a play where, right, right, we're gonna get to that. This is third and five. And when you play the Rams traditionally, teams go, ooh, they try to throw a six or eight or a 10 yard pass to Cooper Cup to get the first down and keep the chains moving. Well,


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[Assistant] On this play, this to me is probably film study again by Sean McVay and probably a little bit of self-scouting to go, you know, I run six and seven and eight yard routes a lot with my slot receivers on third and five and six and that just to get the first down.


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[Assistant] Chicago has buster screen covering Amanda Mann, and they are trying to double him here. They're trying to double him. They're trying to bracket him in and out, right?


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[Assistant] This is what he's told to do though. He's being told to do this. This is, this is total like. That part of it makes sense. What's the corner? Buster screen.


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[Assistant] Well, cause he's playing for, you know, I'm betting that the numbers bear out that they run this a ton.


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[Assistant] And they're playing, you know, but we would call the zebra option in the West Coast offense. Sean McVeigh was down there with me and John Gruden when I, in his early years of learning football. And this is a staple to our offense.


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[Assistant] To let your smart receiver read the coverage along with the quarterback and you guys make the right play and decision based on that coverage. And I would bet that the number said that, oh man, in these situations, he does this a lot and he'll break out or in or sit either way.


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[Assistant] And we'll collapse or we won't let them break and either way we're going to try to knock the ball down and they won't be able to get the first down.


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[Assistant] His last thing he's gonna do, we don't, coach told us they don't run go-routs a lot from this. And bam, he runs a go-rout and they're both like, oh f-


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[Assistant] He's going straight! And Jared Goff throws a really good ball, and he gets, thank God, fumbles the ball out at the one yard line. Remember, this was almost a touchback. Uh, but that is really what happened there. And to our guy, who was that that just asked that question on Twitter? Let's see.


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[Assistant] Uh, Russ Johnson. Russ Johnson, really good, really good question by you. And this is not only where, this is where self-scouting helped screw over the scouting. Right. And this is what it did. Because I bet you Sean McVeigh and their numbers, they broke it down and said, man, we do this a lot. We need to change it up a little bit to get people off our back.


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[Assistant] The slot fades, yeaah. It's kinda new. It is new and it's a great play because you have a lot of room, you know, as far as if you want to throw a back shoulder ball, you got a lot of room to your outside.


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[Assistant] It is. And the slot guy is you more times are not expecting a guy to go inside or outside. So he's not expecting always the vertical element from that kind of guy. And Cooper Cup is a master of those option rounds. Either way, they got him. That was a big play. Good throw by Jared Goff. And that's that.


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[Assistant] See you Friday. Yeah, see you in the coaches meeting Friday. Yeah, you're the man. Uh, hope everybody enjoyed the podcast. Thanks to Big Phil. Uh, again, like I said, subscribe, rate and review. Check out my Campbell's chunky chats with some of the guys I've talked to most recently, Matt Forte, which is really awesome. Thanks to him.


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[Assistant] Thursday we'll do the week 12's picks podcast with Florio. I had a good week picking games. I didn't have a good week gambling. I think Florio did have a good week on gambling. Either way, we're out. Peace. Be good everybody. See ya. See ya. I almost left you hanging. That's alright.


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[Assistant] And because of the Dolphins Redskins game, that means there was only five games to watch at one o'clock, okay? So that made it a lot more enjoyable instead of having my head spin around everywhere. We're gonna get in deep dive session, okay? Rams, Rams 49ers, total deep dive there. Texans Chiefs, total deep dive there. I think those are the two surprise games of the day.


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[Assistant] I gave all these warning signs. I said that I was worried about them getting steamrolled up front. And there I was, 14-nothing, texting my producer, Matt Casey, going, I'm so stupid, I can't believe you let me make that pick. The only one who picked it was Tony. Tony picked it. And I was really waffling before. They heard me waffling.


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[Assistant] Well, he's a confident guy. He's never been scared to be bold or, you know, go for it on fourth downs. That's what he does. Yeah. His team needs a little jumpstart right now. I mean, yeah, it wasn't pretty yesterday. Uh, as far as the way they played in Minnesota, he's brash. He's been like that since he's taken over. It's why he's one of the best head coaches in all of football.


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[Assistant] And, you know, they're gonna have their hands full. I mean, this has become a huge game. I mean, it really does. It's got... For both teams. For both teams, yes. And not to say, like, whoever loses is out of it, because, uh, you're not gonna be, of course.


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[Assistant] They're not getting in as wild card winners. You have to win that division. You're gonna have to win the division to go to the playoffs. And of course this is a head to head matchup that will go a long way into dictating who gets there. Uh, and I think it'll be a good game. Both teams have kind of been underwhelming the last few weeks and all over the place.


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[Assistant] Well, they're compromised right now. They're compromised because their secondary is banged up and they stink. They got no Avante Maddox, they got no Ronald Darby, they got guys like Rasul Douglas outside playing man to man, and he's like the kind of quarter, um, corner Ahmed that should be like...


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[Assistant] When he was on the Patriots, he covered tight ends. He wasn't covering Stefan Diggs on an island outside. So that's an issue. Their other coordinator, Sydney Jones, has been a career injury. I mean, that's what he's been ever since his com, uh, his, his personal workout before the draft.


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[Assistant] So he's just coming back from injury once again. He's not ready to play man to man. So their compromise and the reason that the, the, you know, Minnesota Vikings had some success running the ball on that, that stout defense is because Jim Schwartz is having to do some things at times to protect


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[Assistant] The secondary that way, because as you saw in the game yesterday, when they do leave those guys man to man and stuff like that, it's, they're toast. They're burnt toast. It's black. There's nothing you can do to scrape it.


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[Assistant] So that'll make them feel a little bit better about their matchups on the outside, uh, to maybe help stop that running game. But, you know, still, they missed Deshaun Jackson. And you know, you might have heard me say this, I can't remember if I said this with you on here or Paul on here. Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] He's a great head coach as far as offensive coordinator is concerned. I don't put him in the class as that upper echelon. He's like that next group of guys down and he needs, I've always kind of said they're more about their players than their plays. I don't look at Eagles games and go, oh my gosh, I've never seen plays like this before. He's got everything you want. The offense is really good. Don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] You know, within the offense, there's built-in spots where, ooh, if we get this coverage on this play, look for Deshaun Jackson deep. And he's not there right now. And that's a big thing for them.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, this is Doug Peterson. He came from the Andy Reid school. I mean, when Tyree Kills not there and Sammy Watkins aren't there, the Kansas City Chiefs are not as good. And it's hurting them right now that they don't have Deshaun Jackson because they don't really have that guy that scares you to death down the field.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, they've been more aggressive. I think that's the big thing. They haven't run the ball just to say, oh, we're going to keep running the ball. I think when they've gotten the optimal looks to go.


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[Assistant] Okay, the run doesn't work here. Let's go, let's check to the pass or, or call a pass in the huddle, whatever it may be. They're doing that. And I do give Kevin Stefanski and, and Gary Kubiak, and even Mike Zimmer, who's probably been in their ear about run the ball, run the ball, to give them a little more leeway as far as the pass game is concerned.


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[Assistant] You know, again, this is something we talked about when they were kind of hot early on. They have an interesting combination if they can continue to do this because if they can run the ball and be aggressive in the pass game.


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[Assistant] You know, you pick your poison there. You want to stop Dalvin Cook? Okay. Oh, you want to play one-on-one football on the outside with Diggs and Thielen? Okay, you're seeing that they can connect down the field, and that's where they're dangerous, let alone a good defense on top of that. The NFC North is so


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[Assistant] You got four playoff teams. I mean, they're legitimate. I mean, you know, I mean, maybe the Lions are one of those teams were not ready to say a playoff team, but I wouldn't be shocked if they're in that conversation as the season goes on. And yeah, I mean, and then you said it, the West.


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[Assistant] Uh, is certainly very good too, and that's why we're talking about this Eagles Cowboys game, because of those teams you're talking about, the North and the West, and then you talk about the Panthers and the Saints and the South, you go, no, the East is only getting one, one team this year, for the most part, unless, you know, something just unforeseen happens to a few of these teams where injuries or something like that, and they kind of fall off. It could still be the Cowboys,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's a difference maker. Uh, the first thing they missed, you know, again, we gotta remember the last few weeks, they weren't on their backup quarterback, they were on their third string quarterback. There's a difference there. Third stringers, you know, for lack of a better phrase, they usually suck.


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[Assistant] You know, and then Trevor Simeon, who is a pretty good thrower, but Luke Falk really could not scare a defense down the field in any capacity. And you said it before we went on, you were like, man, Sam Darnold's so good in the pocket.


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[Assistant] You're right. That's really probably his greatest strength. He is phenomenal in the pocket and against that Dallas Cowboy pass rush yesterday, him sliding, moving, making the proper throws. It gave their team confidence and yea Dallas was disappointing. There's no doubt about it. I mean I just did not expect Dallas' defense to kind of let up the plays that they let up in that football game.


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[Assistant] Yep, well, and you know, that's even disappointing on the two-point conversion. Just by the Dallas offense, while we're on that theme right there. You know, you're facing Greg Williams, okay?


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[Assistant] You better re-expect blitz. That's what Greg Williams does. When there's a big situation, he is gonna pressure, and that's where I looked at that play call and I was like,


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[Assistant] What, we don't do something a little bit more there? I mean, just, hey, Jason Witten.


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[Assistant] Step in the end zone and turn around. Oh, okay. That's really hard for the guy that's compromised and has to cover a guy all over the field. Whoa. He just can sit there and like play basketball against them basically in the post. So that was, uh,


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[Assistant] Certainly an issue. You know, I just think the Cowboys' inability to sustain drives. It seemed like the passing game was off a little bit. I thought Prescott was off a little bit to a degree as well. Not being able to finish drives and having to kick field goals was an issue.


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[Assistant] Uh, they didn't get the, maybe some of the big plays we've seen them get to start the year. And uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, again, really, you felt like the Jets were in control of the game for the most part until the very, very end. Uh, and I said this this morning, you know, Ezekiel Harriot, I know people are going to look at it and go, oh, 28 for 105.


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[Assistant] Okay, I mean that's less than 4 yards per carry. And the other thing I would just say to that is I have not been like thrilled with the way he's looked to this point. You know, again, he's really good. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say like this guy's not a special running back. He is.


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[Assistant] You know, he needs to start running sprints again is what I need to say. You think missing camp has hurt him? I think missing camp has certainly hurt him. And I do feel like he looks like he's a step slow. Like, I have no...


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[Assistant] Fear of Ezekiel Elliott, if I'm a defense anymore, like, his rookie year and early in his second year, like, he was a guy, he was a home run hitter. He could go 70 yards on a screen or take it around the edge and go, oh, there he goes, 80 yard touchdown, holy cow, look at this big sucker run. Now if he goes 30 yards, I'm like, hoo.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's about all he's got. And uhm, yeaah, I don't, I don't know, I don't know what to say about that. But as far as pure straight ahead explosive this,


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[Assistant] He's not on the same level as Dalvin Cook, Leonard Fornette, Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] You know, Christian McCaffrey, some of those guys, some of the, you know, 49ers guys, Ted, you know, Todd Gurley and Phillip Lindsay, Breed of the Cheetah, Alvin Kamara, David Johnson. Yeah, when they have a lane and they can turn, they can hit sixth gear. And right now I think Ezekiel only has five gears.


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[Assistant] Of course your team's not gonna be good. Well, these are big weapons to the Cowboys. They're tackles. They're paying a lot of money to them.


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[Assistant] They expect to dominate and run for more than four yards for a carry in a football game. And yeaah, not only that, but then you add into the fact of like, oh, you're playing Greg Williams like we talked about and the blitzes and all of that. You know, it's hard, it's hard to get that continuity and that communication between five guys up front.


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[Assistant] Uh, when two of the guys, you know, haven't been part of that communication process for the most part during the season.


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[Assistant] He is a pinpoint intermediate short pass thrower. So he is not scared if a DB is glued on a wide receiver. He's got enough confidence to go, no, I can put the ball right here. Like I, you know, I know I want to throw it right here, but I see that guy's arm there. I can put it there or there for that guy to go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't, I mean, I just think as a play caller, when you have a guy like Luke Falk, who has, you know, not a lot of physical talent, you're not gonna dial up plays that you would dial up with Sam Garneau because you're gonna be like, this is gonna be a disaster. It's gonna be an interception or, you know, you just don't know what's gonna happen in those situations. So it totally changes.


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[Assistant] Miami coming off the bye week though, I do think you'll see a...


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[Assistant] You know, a last ditch effort. They're going to have some belief that maybe they can pull this game off, but I'm with you. I'm going a little closer than that. I'm going to say the Redskins squeak it out 17 to 16 down in Miami, but find a way to win the football game nonetheless.


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[Assistant] Honestly though, I was 3-0 in my bets last week, and I was proud of that. Oh wow. My big bets, like we have to pick three games out of all the picks. Yeaah. And people made


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[Assistant] I always want to tell people to like listen to my analyzing of the game. I know like somebody on social media got mad at me a few weeks ago because I picked the Packers.


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[Assistant] To beat the Eagles. And I said Aaron Rodgers will score a touchdown really late in the game. It'll be close. It's a coin flip type of game. Oh, they got to the one yard line and didn't score and people are like, you're a f-


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[Assistant] The Eagles won, and I was like, okay, great. See, I know I'm not going to be right with the picks all the time, but, you know, I do study, and if you want to take things away from what I say, you know, I took, New Orleans was a one point underdog against Jacksonville. So that was a shocker, and of course that was one of my bets of the week.


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[Assistant] I rode the Patriots, even though they didn't really play that well. 35 to 14, right? It was 17 point spread. I know, so I rode that. I got lucky with that one. And then my other one, oh, I took the Texans to beat the Chiefs straight up. 31-27, and that was 31-24.


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[Assistant] So that was close. I am proud of those ones. That was a good week. That was a good week. I was 7-1 at the start of...


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[Assistant] If only you could turn around your record on Football Night in America. Yeaah, it's not looking good. It's not looking good. You're not alone. The only thing is, America can't bag on me too hard, because America's only got me beat by one game. I'm 1-5, I'm 1-6, they're 2-5.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, I don't take a whole lot. I think the big thing is, you know, uh, with Bill Callahan as the head coach, you're gonna see that they're gonna run the ball more, obviously.


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[Assistant] But still, he's very effective. Bill Callahan's one of the best O-line coaches of football, so he's gonna play that kind of style of football. That Terry McClellan special, that receiver they got from Ohio State number 17. And the Dolphins suck. I don't know what to say. They're one of the worst teams I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I feel bad for Josh Rosen, cause it, you know, yeaah, it's gonna be hard to evaluate whoever starts for them. Well, yeaah. You know, it really is. It just, there's not good pass protection, they have no run game, the offensive coordinator's still finding his way, so there's a lot of issues there in Miami. I give them a lot of credit for fighting back though.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well no, I mean, I don't think that's like necessarily bad either. Now, you know, the poor throw thing, is he a little...


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[Assistant] I feel like I know this because I heard Torico in the control room before the bye week. They were like, they took a 6-3 lead, right? I'm gonna say like two minutes. Three minutes, 49 seconds. Oh. And was it the Cowboy game? Or what game was it?


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[Assistant] Let's see. Oh, it might have been the charger game. Pete just got in my ear.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I think he's right. I think it might have been the Charger game. They were up, and I'm gonna look and know this just for sure, just so we can throw this out there. But yes, they were up 7-3 in the first quarter against the Chargers, and then the Chargers went down and scored a touchdown. It was 10-7, and then it was 10-10. They were actually tied for a little bit, and then that was night-night.


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[Assistant] Unvictoried. Unvictoried. We'll still talk about it. Okay, let's start that. Alright, I got a read to do, cause this guy, the man, the myth, the legend, the great Mike Tirico, okay? I mean, this guy is a joy to work with, first of all, whether it's at Notre Dame or Sunday Night Football, all over the NFL. I mean, he really, Mike is a phenomenal mind. He knows the sport which


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[Assistant] I don't mean to downgrade any play-by-play caller, but I would bet you his X's and O knowledge of football is about as good as anybody out there because of all his years with John Gruden. So he's phenomenal there, his relationships, he's got inside sources.


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[Assistant] And his podcast is pretty good too. He's got a new podcast out today, Football Night in America, Week 6 recap with Tony Rodney and that mother-freaker Florio, okay? And here's a bit of this week's convo. They discussed the 49ers win over the Rams.


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[Assistant] And if the Los Angeles Rams miss Todd Gurley, listen to this.


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[Assistant] He's certainly not in the superstar elite right now. So there's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, uh, yeaah, it was, uh, there's just a lot of interesting things. I probably write stuff that I don't really need to write all the time, but, uhm, you know, this is an interesting matchup. So let's start with-


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, alright, so if I really had to simplify it, first off is like, you know...


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[Assistant] It's not Jared Goff's fault. Let me just say that. Let's get that right off the, right out of the way. I mean. None of it? None. Really, I'm not gonna sit here and go, there was one flaw in Jared Goff's game yesterday that I would say, okay?


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[Assistant] There was some opportunities to throw some 10 yard outs, out routes, things toward the sideline.


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[Assistant] Where he played the concept and I want to go, ooh, just throw the 10 yard out. Throw the 15 yard comeback.


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[Assistant] You know, don't mess around with the concept and all this nonsense over here of 49ers guys flying all over the place and, oh, let me see if I can squeeze it in there, or let me pat the ball to wait for that guy to get open and then, poof, I get killed behind, you know, the tree trunks of the, the San Francisco 49ers.


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[Assistant] And I've been saying this and it's just continuing to show itself on a week to week basis. They got great talent. They got great versatility. They got great depth.


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[Assistant] They can just send people at you in waves and they absolutely kick the shit out of the Rams offensive line. There's no other way to say it. I don't care. Listen, it would have been tough sledding if it was Rodgers, Watson, Mahomes, Russell Wilson. It would have been tough sledding.


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[Assistant] The poxit was collapsing, they lose their guard, no boom, uh, you know, at some point, maybe it was a late second quarter, whatever, and not to say he's a world beater as it is anyways, and then they have to go to, you know, uh, I can't remember who it was, I'm gonna say Denby, 64, Denby, but they were truly compromised with that.


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[Assistant] And that was the first thing, so. So how'd they do it? The first drive, they just ran it right down their throats. Every play. Every play. Every play. They ran zone, cutbacks, zone, cutbacks.


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[Assistant] Sean McVeigh called a fake toss and then he handed it off like on a quick almost reverse to Robert Woods and then he actually ran a reverse to Robert Woods for the touchdown.


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[Assistant] Hey, it's the first drive of the game. You can never put too much stock into the first time of the drive of the game. Why do you say that? Well, the offense has got it scripted. The defense is kind of trying to get in the flow of the game. They're being hit from a bunch of different angles because of the script. So they don't have no feel at that point for like what's being tried, trying to be done to them at that point.


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[Assistant] That does happen, but obviously they settled in very nicely after that. And this 49ers defense, team speed, size, physicality.


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[Assistant] Yes, team speed is definitely up there. Physicality is up there. I mean, it's them and the Patriots for the best defense in the sport right now. And I would say they have an advantage as far as the front seven goes. Uhm, you know, the Patriots have a better secondary, but the 49ers secondary not bad either. Well, here's a thing too with D. Ford.


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[Assistant] They still dominate. I mean, he doesn't start. I mean, that just tells you how good they are. I mean, hey, we're paying you, you know, $15 million a year or whatever they're paying them and we don't even need you to start. Just stay fresh from when they have to pass and we know it. You're gonna come off the edge like you're on fire and you're gonna get after the quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, they just, they have Armstead, Buckner, you know, the DJ Jones kid, they start him at the tackle next to Buckner and they put Armstead outside and then Nick Bosa on the other edge who's phenomenal already. I mean, Nick Bosa's phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, that's what happens with those guys a lot of the time. Nick Bosa of D-Ford have tremendous power for guys that are, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, uh, what do I want to say? Boxed up into a smaller package maybe compared to some other defense ends. But what happens with speed rushers, and just imagine you're an offensive tackle. You're going, oh my gosh, I gotta get back. He's gonna beat me around the edge. And then all of a sudden,


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[Assistant] When that guy just sees you, like, working so hard to get back there and get fast, he puts his foot in the ground, he goes, I'm gonna drive my head right into this guy's chest, and all of a sudden, the, you know, the offensive lineman's like, uuuh, and he gets driven back into the quarterback, and there was a lot of that in the game by all the positions in the Rams offensive.


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[Assistant] You know, the other kid, Mosley, uh, 41, the kid out of Tennessee they have, he's pretty damn good at man to man coverage. Richard Sherman's not the type of corner that's gonna get in your face and play man to man. He likes to play off, and those are some of the out routes and things I was saying. If I was going to attack anybody,


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[Assistant] The weakness of the 49ers defense is you can throw some balls outside the phone, outside the numbers, I was going to say phone numbers, outside the numbers. And yes, if you gave me my choice of which guy to attack, it would be Richard Sherman. You know, even if you saw it at the end of the game, Jared Goff missed a kind of a double move down the sideline. He's got him.


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[Assistant] You know, Richard Sherman's kind of trying to read the play, and he sees a guy in the slot, and the guy just runs right by him, but yeaah, I do think that's one area where you can, uhm, attack the 49ers.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's a baller. He's a, you know, he's one of those safety corner hybrids. Like, he can, he's a phenomenal tackler. He's phenomenal in like short, you know, coverage situations. You know, he had the big fourth down stop where he broke up a pass.


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[Assistant] But really, even to all those, the credit goes, you know, the D-line, we talked about how special that is. But in some of those, you know, drop-back passing areas too, Robert Sala and the 49ers, what they did on the defensive side, they were all over some of McVeigh's concepts. I mean, all over. And even on that fourth down, they're playing man-to-man.


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[Assistant] But Jimmy Ward's all over it too because he's been taught what to look for. Ooh, when they get in this formation and they're in this short yard situation, they like to do this, which gives them a great advantage to be able to jump routes and make it contested. That's how, you know, New England.


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[Assistant] And the Detroit Lions play man to man because they're taught so well about the route concepts of what the other team's doing, they feel like they have a good feel and that of course is a great advantage when it comes down to man to man.


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[Assistant] No, because the front four could just steamroll people. They could handle it. So the linebackers kind of just said, oh, it's, you know, oh, they weren't up there like at the line of scrimmage. Oh, he looks like he's going to run it. We're just going to kind of sit here. Oh, he did run it. We'll get in there. You know, but, but yeah, some of the play action, none of it was good. You know, one of the things,


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[Assistant] That is, they need more concepts. They need more. McVeigh, McVeigh needs to do more on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] There's just no other way I can say it. Because when their run game doesn't work, and I listen, Sean McVeigh is amazing to me, he's a phenomenal head coach, but when their run game doesn't work, they are limited.


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[Assistant] They don't, their, their, their plays, I don't look at it and go, oh my gosh, these are some of the greatest things I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Really what they do is they want to run the ball and then how he packages it off of it is what makes him special. You've probably heard me say this before, but hey, we're gonna run, we're gonna, we're gonna run the ball.


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[Assistant] We're gonna run this outside zone. Outside zone. Oh, here comes a speed sweep. So the outside zone, you know, the teams can't be too aggressive on the outside zone. And then that gives us the cutback lane. Okay, now we're gonna, you know, we're gonna run the outside, we're gonna fake the speed sweep.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then run the outside zone. Okay, then we got that. Then when they, you know, fake the speed sweep, fake the outside zone, play action pass. And then it's fake the speed sweep, fake the outside zone, screen pass. And they just have all these things they can do off of it. But when one of those phases doesn't work,


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[Assistant] They are a little handicapped, and I do think McVeigh has to kind of expand his tree. If you look at the 49ers offense compared to the Rams offense,


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot more versatility in Shanahan's offense as compared to McVet. So let's do that.


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[Assistant] Oh, this is Josh McDaniels or Sean Payton or Kyle Shanahan and they're, they're doing shit like I don't even know what the hell this is but it's cool and people are open.


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[Assistant] The Ramsee is good. You know, I mean, their front can ruin games too. And they did. I mean, they played phenomenal. You know, and again, even with the 20-7 victory, let's take this into, this game is 7-7.


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[Assistant] And the Rams are third in goal on the one yard line. And they're gonna, you're gonna go, damn, they're gonna go up 14 to 7. Even though it hasn't been pretty, here we are, they're gonna slug it out and get it in there. And of course that D-line of the 49ers said, no you're not.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not giving up on the Rams. There's a lot of things to still like about this football team. Uhm, I think the big thing I would take away from that side of the ball is, you know, it was hard work for the 49ers all day long. It wasn't like people were wide open or this or that, but I just think between, you know, the defense and


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[Assistant] And then they sustained some drives where it kept the Rams offense on. It might have been ugly, but the 49ers nearly chewed up some clock. And Kyle had a lot of different little creative ways to move the ball and do things.


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[Assistant] And uh, really ultimately I thought it was Kyle's just ability to game plan a few more plays on the offensive side of the ball as compared to Sean that then wins the football game for the 49ers.


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[Assistant] I agree with you. I mean, listen, if you had to give me the two biggest concerns for the San Francisco 49ers, okay, and there's not a lot because the 49ers are arguably the best team in football. I mean, so let's just get that straight.


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[Assistant] To this point, to this point, he hasn't had to like have a game where he's gotta carry the squad or be that guy where you just go, man, I don't know if he is either. I think that's a big question. You know, the throw you're talking about to Tevin Coleman, you know, again, yeah, you know, that was,


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[Assistant] Could Tevin Coleman catch it? Yes! But any coach, including Kyle Shanahan, I promise you what he's gonna say, he goes, this is a running back, you gotta put the ball on him.


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[Assistant] You can't throw the ball like this in front of a running back. He is a running back, not a receiver who receives the ball as in catching it. And he was wide open. He was wide open. And Jimmy Garoppolo's mechanics go into that. He kinda just keeps his feet still and he just throws it all arm and he doesn't put the ball on the money there. You know, the interception on the one yard line. Just stupid. I don't know what else to say.


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[Assistant] He is definitely, you know, he did good things. So I don't want to like take this away. He moved in the pocket a few times and made some really good throws. But you know, hey, he got Marquis Goodwin down the left sideline on that trick play they ran, the little flea flicker.


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[Assistant] That should have been a walk-in touchdown. He under-threw it by 15 yards. So Marquise Goodman had a stop, and as he's catching the ball, he's about to get hit, he drops it. Should he have caught that? Definitely.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm holding them to a standard. You know, right now the 49ers are in a very elite class in the NFL. And I'm just going like, okay, hey the 49ers, and I know it's still all a work in progress, but I'm trying to say like, hey, if they want to be the number one seed, if they want to


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[Assistant] And then Jimmy Garoppolo's gotta carry the squad, and maybe it doesn't happen this year. Maybe they're that good that they don't have to worry about it. But my money would say at some point, it is gonna happen. And he's gonna have to deliver, and it is kind of unproven to this point. So you're not that far off, Slugger. So thank you.


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[Assistant] Is it offensive play call or certainly? Am I ready to say that as a head coach? No. I mean, Sean McVeigh is special. But as an offensive play call, I've always said that. Yes. You know, again, Kyle's the teacher. McVeigh is the student. You know, McVeigh worked for Shanahan.


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[Assistant] In, in Washington. You know, and, and, you know, you gotta go back anybody out there.


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[Assistant] You gotta look at Kyle Shanahan's resume. It's a little more impressive than I think people give it credit for. It really is. When you go back to his days in Houston, he had top five offenses there.


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[Assistant] Okay, then he went to Washington and they did some special things and you've heard me say they invented an offense around RG3 that we had never really seen before. You know, he went to the Browns for a year.


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[Assistant] And there was nobody on that offense and they were kind of like middle of the NFL. Okay. Then he goes to Atlanta and sets records. It's funny you go, you know, he went to the Browns and they were average. Right. Whoa. And the 49ers haven't won games his first two years until this year, but everyone.


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[Assistant] I was encouraged by the rams nonetheless, more than I thought.


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[Assistant] After the game. What'd you do? I, I'm throwing away the, I thought we were done with it. No, no, no, you're good. I'm just saying, I'm not like, I'm not sitting here going, oh my gosh, the world's falling for the Rams. The Rams are still a good football team. McVeigh's still a great coach. Jared Goff was top. And like I said, I mean, this game was,


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[Assistant] There to be very close if they don't get stopped on a, uh, you know, third and one and a fourth and one from the one yard line.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's okay. I mean, damn, I don't care. Like I said, I don't care who you were. That was real pressure. That was like pocket collapsing. I'm about to get hit by Mack trucks as I'm throwing the football and like, yeah, you know, I'd challenge anybody. Go in, go stand in there and see how accurate you are throwing the football when, when two tree trunks are about to smash you. No, thank you.


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[Assistant] Well, he's in that combo for sure. I mean, I think Watson, Mahomes, Wilson, McCaffrey, I think those are the four leaders in the clubhouse right now, and I would say Wilson is in the lead.


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[Assistant] You know, had a punt return against them. They lost in a fashion which we don't really see the Seahawks lose by very often over the Pete Carroll era. So it's almost an outlier in itself. Yeaah. I mean, they could very easily be 6-0. I mean, I'm with you. I mean, even with all those things that happened, they had chances to come back and win that football game against the Saints.


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[Assistant] You know, again, like we'll talk about with most of the great teams in the NFL, and this is where it worries me about the Rams, because I don't think their O-line is great, and that scares me.


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[Assistant] The great teams in football, the one thing we're seeing right now, whether it's the Patriots, the Seahawks, you know, the 49ers here we're talking about, you know, and, you know, who else am I talking about? Green Bay Packers, okay, they're, they're one lost football team. You know, you know, even Dallas, okay, the New Orleans Saints, certainly.


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[Assistant] They can win the battles up front, or at least not lose battles up front, egregiously against any team in football. And to me, that's where the game always starts, right there. And Seattle, amen.


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[Assistant] They got, they're getting Jaron Reed back this week. Okay, and Ezekiel Anzander, De'Veon Clowney, I'm telling you, they're still just rounded into shape.


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[Assistant] I mean, Ezekiel Anza didn't play football last year, really. Gedevion Clowney didn't do crap during training camp. So they're just hitting their stride. And now you got Jaron Reed coming back, who's one of the best D tackles in football.


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[Assistant] You know, it just shows you once again in that game, and I don't even mean to spend this much time, I'm sorry, but this was a fun game yesterday. It shows you one team with like, battle-tested championship pedigree, we're not gonna panic, we're down 20-6, and there's another team that's like,


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[Assistant] Oh, this is the ball? Oh gosh, we're gonna fumble an interceptor now, let you back in. I mean, there's just some, you know, stupid mistakes by Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb fumbles, you know, maybe a bad call on the fumble, the fumble by Jarvis Landry. Okay. But then the next play, you know, they don't get in on a fourth and goal from the one, you know, there's little things like that where


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, he's been more errant with throws. I think yesterday, I was encouraged by things I saw. I mean, Matt Casey...


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[Assistant] As me and him were sitting next to each other, we, you know, there was a lot of times where we looked at each other, right? And we were like, oh look, he stayed in the pocket. Like he wanted to leave and he was just like, oh wait, coach told me to stay in here. And then he made some good throws. You know, there was some things to be really encouraged about. Or he made a good tackle after the interception. Well, but yes, the interceptions, like had the one in the end zone.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, trying to fit it in there, kind of off target, the one at the end of the game, just like we talked about with Jimmy Garoppolo, I'm gonna get missing Tevin Coleman. He's throwing to a running back. You can't throw the ball three feet behind the running back. You just can't. Like, John Gruden would have blamed me.


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[Assistant] A hundred out of a hundred times if I threw a ball like that to Michael Pittman or Cadillac Williams or Mike Allstate.


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[Assistant] You know, they're running backs. You gotta put it on their numbers. You gotta put it right beneath their chin every time. So yeaah, that goes on to him, uh, definitely. You know, hey, they ran the ball. There was a lot of things that take away from that football game, but they just played a team that's damn damn good and fearless and they have


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[Assistant] You know, you could argue that Russell Wilson's the best quarterback in football. I don't, like, if anybody said, like, Russell Wilson's better than Patrick Mahomes, I wouldn't go, you're insane. I get it.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, and then he's just, he's like, you know, whether he talks to God or whatever, I mean, I know he's got a lifeline with him, whatever, but he's never fazed by any situations. No, he's not. You know, it just doesn't matter. It just, no matter what it is, oh, we're down by 14, oh, I gotta go, we gotta drive down to win a game-winning touchdown here, no problem. I'll scramble, I'll make some great throws.


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[Assistant] I mean, they are dangerous, the Seahawks. Good team. And I think they got maybe as dangerous of weapons on the outside as I've ever seen them have, really. You know what I got to say to that? What do you got?


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[Assistant] But there was an ex-quarterback out there that thought Drew Brees was the second best quarterback in football and Tom Brady was one and two.


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[Assistant] I'm about wins. Okay, so is Teddy Bridgewater one of the five best quarterbacks in football? Because he's winning. He's undefeated. In fact, their one loss is when Drew Brees was starting.


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[Assistant] No, I know he got hurt, that's not really fair. But the saints, just like the teams we've talked about so far, you know, they are


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[Assistant] Phenomenal D-line, their own line can handle any defense in football.


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[Assistant] They can play a multitude of style football games, right? Yeah. You know? Oh, we gotta get in the shootout with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Zing, zing, zing. Okay, no problem. Oh, we gotta play Jacksonville and play like Smash Mouth? No problem, we'll hang in there. I thought Teddy Bridgewater just adapting properly to each game.


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[Assistant] Has really been the thing, like, not being careless, knowing he's playing Jacksonville, our defense is good, we can slow them down.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna play close to the best and play conservative. That's part of being a quarterback. And, you know, again, like if Drew Brees is playing,


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[Assistant] I don't like sit there and go, oh, they would have won like 27 to 6. No, it would have been 13 to 6. I mean, I don't really doubt that, you know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, maybe it would have been 16-6. I don't know, but I'm just saying it's not going to be that big of a difference. The Rams, I mean, the Saints are really good, and I know I said this last week, but I'm just really impressed with their defense. It's changed, uh, ever since the Dallas game. They've stopped being so aggressive in the secondary, and I think it's really going to go a long, long way for them.


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[Assistant] Good! That's the way they should play. They got a special front four. We talk about like every year about like, oh, that team can get there with the front four. They have those kind of guys. They can push the pocket, they can rush off the edge. You know, their front four, you know, just like we were talking about with the 49ers, they can stop the run kind of all by themselves.


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[Assistant] And, uh, it's certainly one of the strengths of their football team.


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[Assistant] When you have a team that is a Super Bowl team, you don't risk it and have a shitty backup quarterback. And them having to pay him


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[Assistant] You know, to be the most expensive backup quarterback in football was one of the moves of the offseason. Because they were, they knew. We have a Super Bowl team and we got a quarterback that's about to be 40.


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[Assistant] And if he goes down, what's going to happen? Are we going to just fall off the earth? No, let's sign Titty Bridgewater so we don't fall off the earth. And there they are sitting here at five, are they five and one or six and one? Five and one. Yea, five and one. Thanks.


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[Assistant] He is, uh, he's doing a great job, but you're, you're right. It does. It starts with the defense and Christian McCaffrey. I mean, that's where it starts. And, and yesterday again, you know, McCaffrey didn't have gaudy numbers yesterday, but where I give them credit and I say this a lot with like Sean Payton or John Gruden.


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[Assistant] Just because they couldn't run the ball yesterday, they continued to run it to help the pass game. So Kyle Allen can make a play downfield every now and then to DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel.


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[Assistant] Again, here's Kyle and another guy who's just playing the right way. You know, he knows he's got a good defense, he knows he's got a run game, and he's not trying to reinvent the wheel every quarter to go like, oh look, I'm, I'm Deshaun Watson, I'm awesome too. No, he knows who he is as a player.


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[Assistant] People are open, he throws it in there and hits strikes. You know? If it's dicey or whatever else, he'll take a sack, throw the ball away. I mean, I just think he's doing a great job. And that defense is special. There's no other way to say it.


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[Assistant] So they can make you look ugly. And then, you know, I know everyone's going to sit here and like bag on Jameis Winston too. And I'm going to say this, and I, I, I have maybe a little soft spot in my heart for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because they drafted me and I played there and I, maybe I am a little biased here. That ship out there in the crowd. Right, right. Yo ho, yo ho, the pyre of his life for me. That's cool. Yes.