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[Assistant] I love Japan. I've been there 60 times. I remember the first time I went to Japan, there was a kickboxer that was turned into a wrestler. And he was kicking me as hard as he fucking could. He was killing me.


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[Assistant] This garbage can and a garbage bag will be on sale later on eBay. Just in case any of you are looking for some Jericho spit.


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[Assistant] I'm sure Kevin Hart was having some problems telling his little jokes after he ate that. I need some chapstick is what I need. I need some milk flavored chapstick.


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[Assistant] And I'll say Queen, Majesty, Scotch, Bonnet, and Ginger was the most pleasant. I enjoyed that one. I might actually buy a bottle of that and use it on my future wings. So I apologize, it's probably pretty disgusting, but I don't care. You guys haven't eaten the stuff that I have.


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[Assistant] And right now it's to see how to survive, so there you go. Stay on top of it, my man. Sorry if I'm, uh, not impressing anyone with my lack of cooth here on, uh, Hot Ones on the First Be Feast Network.


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[Assistant] Uh, looking at this camera, looking at that camera, and all those other cameras. If you wanna know what I'm doing...


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[Assistant] Oh, it's a vodcast. The world can see your beautiful mug.


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[Assistant] None of this is making the edit, is it? Anyway, hello Matt. Hello, hello, hello.


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[Assistant] Uh, the bit that stood out for me was, uhm, McLaren. And I'm slightly concerned that Oscar Piastre is following in the trend of Australian drivers making


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I'm slightly concerned for Oscar because I, I do think he is, uh, on pure talent and based on, you know, I've known him a little bit and speak to his engineers at Prema who he was with in F2 and F3 and they think he is,


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[Assistant] It works out for him, um, because, uh, it's, it's a, it's, it's not looking good for McLaren so far.


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[Assistant] Well, it's more, you just, you just get hidden, you just get forgotten. You know, if you think of Lewis's impact when he arrived in F1.


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[Assistant] Was instantaneous because he was in with the top team. He didn't, I mean, I still maintain it's one of the greatest rookie seasons we've ever seen in 2007 when he did that, yeaah.


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[Assistant] But he was at the forefront. You know, we were all watching our, watching him at the front. And if you get sort of buried at the bottom end of the field, you can be a bit anonymous, which is hard to make an impact.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I think the other thing was, you know, I wrote a column before testing about my sort of Dark Horse prediction and being Aston Martin and off the back of what I saw from Ted's piece, uh, out in Bahrain. It sounds like they've hit the ground running. We'll see when we get to the actual race weekend, but having Fernando Alonso in the car,


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[Assistant] They may not do the job on Saturday, but I'll tell you what, a motivated, rejuvenated Fernando Alonso with a sniff of a podium.


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[Assistant] Well, you, the one lap pace wasn't great, was it?


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[Assistant] Right. But I'm not a driver. We all concur. Carry on. It was the right landing. It was the right landing.


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[Assistant] Yes, I think so. I think, you know, last year there were so many unknowns with the new cars, who was going to be there, who wasn't, et cetera, et cetera, and we still thought Mercedes were going to be in the fight. Honestly, coming off the back of 2021, where Mercedes and Red Bull were fighting so hard until the end, what Red Bull did last year,


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[Assistant] To still arrive at the new set of rules with the most competitive car, or one of the most.


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[Assistant] Well seriously impressive, I mean I remember speaking to James Allison about it in the summer.


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[Assistant] And he, he was very complimentary of the fact that Red Bull had managed to arrive with a strong car.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's intense, right? Um, so yeah, I think this is, I think you, you're right. It is the first time he's at the Out and Out favorite. Uh.


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[Assistant] I think last year, we, the only, we're clutching our straws aren't we to see how we could get a competitive fight, but I think of testing last year and the Red Bull did look like the best car. And actually when we got to the race, it seemed like Ferrari had more sandbags in it and they turned the engines up a bit more. I do think they've, from what I understand,


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[Assistant] That they perhaps turn the engines up on the Alfa Romeo a bit more at testing just to see where the potential was while keeping their own engine modes under cover a bit more.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. So that's, that's, that's kind of what I was alluding to. So yeah, you know, maybe, maybe when we get to the weekend, the Ferrari.


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[Assistant] We'll be more competitive over one lap. I think that the traits we saw last year where there were too many races, you know, Miami, Imola come to mind, Ricard comes to mind, where


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[Assistant] The superior pace on Sunday in terms of tyre wear from Max in Red Bull just meant he overtook the Ferrari or was about to overtake the Ferrari when it crashed in Francis' case.


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[Assistant] I think that's the issue still for Ferrari. They, on the long run, they just haven't got the, the, uhm, Kiowa under control.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the only, yeah, it's, eh, Ted's got a point because momentum, you think about it, right? It, it emboldens the designer's belief. They've arrived with a strong car in 22 and they've gone, okay, we're on the right path. They've got conviction because ultimately designing a Formula One car is an art.


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[Assistant] You know, and it's about these people channeling their creative art juices with the underlying principles of physics and mathematics. And


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[Assistant] If they've got confidence in their design process, then the next time they go there, they push the envelope a bit more because they're confident. Now, if you're Mercedes and you've come off the back of a year where your team principal is


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[Assistant] You know, publicly call the car a sh**box on, on multi-million people watching broadcast.


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[Assistant] Then your confidence is, is a bit shaky, isn't it? And you've got to then design next year's car. And then like Ted says, momentum, you know, it goes with stable rules. You've got the next and the next and the next. So yeah, it's tricky. And it's trickier for the Red Bull, sorry, trickier for the Mercedes people and the others to have that confidence in their own creative, creative ideas.


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[Assistant] His, his job is like Eddie Irvine's was a Ferrari, which is be a good number two and win the races.


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[Assistant] So in 3 or 4, you know what, I think, and I actually think Cheko, Cheko has gone into


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[Assistant] Rightly gone with the Eddie Irvine instead of Rubens Barrichello mentality. You remember at the start of every season Rubens would go, this is my year, the car feels more suited for me, this is the year I'm going to challenge Michael, and he just got more and more angry and more and more upset. Whereas Irvine went,


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[Assistant] On the odd occasion when Michael has a bad day, I get some podiums. And he did.


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[Assistant] No, and, you know, history shows that having two number ones costs a team, as Williams found out with Mansell and Piquet against Prost and things like that. But...


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[Assistant] As a purist, I quite like that. I quite like the fact that Mercedes give George as good an opportunity as Lewis.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I know from a team's perspective it's not the right thing and I completely agree with you on that.


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[Assistant] I actually think, you know, let them fight. And then after Monza, before we start the back end of the season of the Flyways, if, if, you know, you're, you're a long way behind, if you're more than, I don't know, if you're more than 40 points behind your teammate, uhm, once we get to Singapore, then,


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[Assistant] Then you're now sorry, you're number two. You make it sound so simple.


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[Assistant] But the person doesn't know when he was blocking Lewis when Ocon won that race.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, the surprise of the season could be that Fernando Alonso has made a good career choice for a change.


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[Assistant] Fernando would have won the 2018 championship in a Ferrari.


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[Assistant] If it was Fernando Alonso in that Ferrari, as good as it was against Lewis Hamilton, he would have won that championship.


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[Assistant] I was on childcare duty. Uhm, but no, listen, I think the reality is these cars do 5,000 kilometers nowadays on a, on a super dyno that runs everything. So it's very rare that.


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[Assistant] They can't run on a shakedown. So I didn't, honestly, I don't think it's as big a talkie point as you'd think.


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[Assistant] Ferrari, the car looked decent. It had a little bit more bouncing than the Red Bull which looked very, very stable despite the rule changes. Uhm, it didn't, they didn't hit the ground immediately happy and confident with the setup. They needed to do a little bit of donkey work.


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[Assistant] But they were there or thereabouts, and as I said before, I think they have got the engines turned down quite a bit. Now obviously the engines was in Achilles heel for them last year in terms of reliability, uhm, so we'll see if they've got on top of that as the season unfolds and the mileage on the engine goes up.


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[Assistant] A bit of the engine, sorry, I should say. But I think, uhm, ultimately, for, when you come back to your question in terms of Frébusier's inbox, there's, there was, you know, we spent a lot of last year


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[Assistant] Being upset and like Ferrari fans around the world raging about how they'd thrown away this opportunity. But when you actually sit down and look at it, if you consider where they were in, uh, 2020,


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[Assistant] 2020, after fuel flowgate, they were rubbish. They were sixth. And then they made a huge step forward.


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[Assistant] It's that last step. I think, and this is why I still maintain they should have found a way to keep Binotto. Because I think from a...


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[Assistant] Design standpoint with a new set of regulations.


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[Assistant] The design group came up with a good car. Up until Spa, the upgrade plan was working well. From Spa onwards, they all just lost motivation when Max destroyed them from 14th on the grid. And then it just spiraled.


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[Assistant] Race ops, of course. Strategically, there was a whole litany of errors.


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[Assistant] But actually, it didn't need a reinvention, and I think having Fred Verso work alongside Matteo Bonotto could have been-


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[Assistant] Yeah, it could have been the Jean-Torres-Rosperon remake of the 90s, which was, uh, early 2000s, which was very successful. Now, you know, you've got Frébusier, who,


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[Assistant] I believe, you know, he doesn't speak Italian, he's not been at the team, and Ferrari's different. You know, eight of the ten teams on the grid, and I'm including Alfa Tauri here, because although they're technically in Faenza, they have a lot of people in the UK, eight out of ten teams are from the Motorsport Valley of the UK, and there's a different mindset. Ferrari are different.


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[Assistant] And you need to have somebody who, like Pinoto, who's been there for 30 years and understands the deep rooted cultural mindset of that team.


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[Assistant] So. Could have been a good team. I feel they're going to, they're actually going to feel as lost there.


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[Assistant] I think the new frontiers helped him, uhm, you know, just, just speaking a little bit with his third...


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[Assistant] We'll be in a variety of compounds, which I can list. Yeah, no, I think that it's the, the field seems to suit him a bit more. I think he, he, you're absolutely right. He was never as comfortable with the car last year and he was constantly having to find a setup that worked for him and he was just always, you know,


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[Assistant] Behind Leclerc. He was just a little couple of tenths, not, you know, sometimes in qualifying he could do it, like in Jeddah or Austin, he could get ahead, but never quite there at race pace. And I think this, this has helped him. So yeaah, I'm interested to see how that goes.


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[Assistant] No, but Brazil is a much bigger outlier as a circuit than most others.


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[Assistant] I think the second half of the year when the, the wind tunnel time reset happens from the 1st of July.


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[Assistant] You know, we'll help there to skew the picture. But if by that stage, they're so far behind in the points, then there's some big decisions to be made, right? At that point, they go, okay, forget this car. We're out of this fight. We're going to focus on developing a new concept.


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[Assistant] It, it creates this whole heap of things, so I, I think the...


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[Assistant] The development curve is going to be fascinating. If they can, if they can find the answers and unlock this untapped potential that they keep talking about in the first half of this year,


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[Assistant] Then they'll build on that, and they'll have the more wind tunnel time than their rivals, and they'll be able to make progress, blah blah blah blah. But if they're not, then we're into a cycle which could affect Eden 24.


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[Assistant] I don't think we should put it in the context of who would trouble Max Verstappen and Red


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[Assistant] There's a gulf there. But I think what we can't perhaps talk about is this battle behind the top two.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think, you know, you've got Aston, you've got Alpine, Alfa Romeo, uhm, McLaren, Haas, you know, all these people are in that mix, right? The midfield battle has been fun and interesting to watch.


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[Assistant] I believe, like most people, I think that Aston are ahead of that. They've invested heavily. I think Dan Fallows who's come in as their, go on, graphics man, Dan Fallows.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, who's joined the team from Red Bull is, is very, very good and very highly rated and very methodical.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I think they're all working well, and Luca's very, uhm, into details. You know, he's very, very into every minutiae of the car, uh, he's looked at. And, uhm, yeaah, so I think there's, you know, a lot of, lot of positive vibes out of there.


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[Assistant] Was quicker, was quicker, of course, when you, when they, when the team know internally on the fuel loads and tires, which I'm interested to see what that does to.


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[Assistant] The internal rivalry, actually, if he comes in as a new boy and is quicker, uh, cause...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I upset Alpine last year at some point when I said they're going to... It's normally my job. Yeah, I know. I said, I said they're going to miss having Fernando Alonso there in the driver line up and they were all very defensive about that.


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[Assistant] I got, I got a whole speech about how they've got a better line up now and these two are going to be brilliant and et cetera, et cetera. Uhm, and I, I go back to it. I think it's not about this outright pace or the outright speed, but it's that week in week out.


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[Assistant] Performance that Fernando or Louis or Max delivers.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as a benchmark for the other drivers, you know, who are mercurial characters. So yeah, I think they're going to miss Fernando. Um, but I think, you know, Ben Norton, who's, who's been with the team a little while, um, on a, on a senior design role works alongside, uh, Matt Harmon there.


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[Assistant] They put together a very tidy car this year, and you know, talking to people at the factory, they've had one of their best winters in terms of preparing the car, car build, getting deadlines hit on time, getting the car fired up, do testing.


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[Assistant] Reliability was a weakness for the Renault power unit last year, of course. Uhm, but I'm told they did over 5000k.


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[Assistant] On the, on the full car dyno before they went to Bahrain. And they spent the Bahrain test not really worrying about long runs because they're confident enough with reliability. They focused on, on quality labs rather than quantity.


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[Assistant] I just don't get it. I still don't get it. All these, like, I don't get it. Just sign a two year deal. McLaren loved it. They would have done a two year deal and it gives him the options. It gives him options.


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[Assistant] Why do you think you did it then? Because, because the McLaren now has gone backwards. Because the McLaren has got, because you, as a driver you,


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[Assistant] In Lando's position, it's different, right? If you were at Red Bull, Mercedes or Ferrari, who are already a top three team, then having long-term stability is great because you're like, okay, we're in the fight and one year we'll get it over. But if you're a team that isn't yet in that fight,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, he could've s- I'm not saying don't say Mc- McLaren-


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[Assistant] Was the best option for him, and he's the best option for him.


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[Assistant] Outside of the top three, but locking himself in. Let's say Lewis does decide halfway through this year, you know what? We're not going anywhere.


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[Assistant] It's not enough for me to win the championship, and he decides to stop.


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[Assistant] Lando is the number one pick on Toto, should be, I'm speaking out of turn here, but I would imagine he would be the number one pick for Toto and Mercedes. But then for him to be extracted out of his McLaren contract,


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[Assistant] It's gonna cost Toto a Mercedes, whereas if he was a free agent at the end of this year,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure why you would put up that barrier. Because, let's say Leclerc decides, you know what, I've had enough of the, the...


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[Assistant] Ferrari. Ferrari stuff. I fancy Mercedes seat.


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[Assistant] Any, you know, if suddenly it's like, okay, I've got to pay five million for Lando or five million to Leclerc, that suddenly becomes a decision, right? Whereas if you're paying zero for one and five for the other, then it's, so I just, I just think,


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[Assistant] He's giving himself less options. I have to say, brilliant negotiation by Zach.


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[Assistant] It's the, you know when you get a podcast considering we've just, this is episode one. You know, a little icon.


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[Assistant] Good, really? Yes, looking forward to, to Saudi next, uh, this coming week, actually. Um, Bahrain served up quite a lot of good stories, big stories and a lot of shocks for some of the teams and drivers as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think more of the time deficit than the positions, to be honest. I mean, they were 50 seconds plus behind Mercedes-Benz and against a cruising Verstappen out front because he wasn't under pressure. And we know that Mercedes and Aston and Ferrari were pushing quite hard racing each other. So that would have been a shocker. They, they.


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[Assistant] Sort of massaged the W13 all through last year and ended up winning Brazil, but it was a challenging car and I think many of us expected to see something quite different turn up in Bahrain at the test and it wasn't really, it was an evolution of last year's car and I think Toto and Lewis are saying


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[Assistant] Look, we haven't, this is not right. This doesn't feel right. We're not going in the right direction here and the stopwatch never lies in that respect. So, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, it is Bahrain, it's a specific layout that challenges the rear tyres more than the front and it has its own


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[Assistant] Particular demands of a Formula One car, let's say, but, uh, and that won't necessarily translate everywhere, but the bottom line is they were six tenths of a second slow in qualifying and


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[Assistant] And probably a second elapsed low in the race, which is forever in a Formula One car, of course.


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[Assistant] I think there's a lot of concern there and with other teams that just literally got pulverised by Red Bull, uhm, as to hang on, what are we doing? But I don't think Lewis is any, in any different position to.


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[Assistant] Say Lando or Charles Leclerc or Ferrari, uh, of stamping their feet a little bit and saying, hang on, what are you doing about this? Tell me.


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[Assistant] What we're doing in terms of updates, in terms of personnel, in terms of


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[Assistant] Moving this game forward, because it looks an awful lot like last year at the moment.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's all about, I'm leaving, I'm, you know, I'm out of here. It's about,


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[Assistant] Look, we, this, sometimes you just have to stand up and go, this is not right, because the mantra from Mercedes through the weekend was, we don't want to go to a different philosophy on the aerodynamics because


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[Assistant] We've got to learn that all over again. That's a step backwards to go forward. We'd rather finesse what we know. And I think at the end of Bahrain is it was


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[Assistant] It's not good enough. It's too much finessing to be done.


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[Assistant] A little bit, but quite clearly Lewis feels that he's not getting enough traction just chatting to them and he obviously feels they're not paying enough attention and has had to go public with that. It is highly unusual because he is always


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[Assistant] You know, the team player, the ultimate team player really.


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[Assistant] You know, Formula One drivers are embedded in a team in both directions. You're comfortable.


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[Assistant] They design a car around you, your size in the cockpit, your preferences of how the car handles, marketing, sponsorship. It's a long term, very, as I said, the word I used was embedded.


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[Assistant] It's the start of a very, very long season. And after the race in Bahrain, when you watched on Sky F1, there were a lot of very disappointed drivers, the emotions, the


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[Assistant] The sheer frustrations and disappointments there, I think we're pouring out because


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[Assistant] They realised that Red Bull were in a different race basically, and I think you've seen quite a lot of comments from George and Charles and Lewis and no doubt Lando about


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[Assistant] What we, what we do, because what they know is if, if the team just finds half a tenth there and a tenth there,


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[Assistant] That's just a normal progression for all the teams through a season.


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[Assistant] You know, as Toto Wolf says, there's no silver bullet. That doesn't happen very often these days. They've got so much equipment and resource to make sure the cars are pretty damn good when they hit the track.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I did, and I do know the head of comms extremely well, uhm, and,


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[Assistant] How I viewed that, I think there's some reverse psychology going on at the end there about


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[Assistant] Hey look, if you don't want to support us anymore to, to stir up, uh, uh, you know, uh,


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[Assistant] We all jumped on it in Sky F1, so did other media of like, whoa, this is so unusual for Toyota and Lewis not to just be.


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[Assistant] I love the team at Bricksworth, I love the team at Brackley and we raced this together and all that. You know, they were pretty punchy with their words and uhm,


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[Assistant] So I think that's just managing that down really. And I think that's all they could do because they can't redesign the car. They can only do the words and the media. And that's for somebody else to do.


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[Assistant] I think Lewis Fields, he was absolutely robbed in Abu Dhabi 2021, along with a lot of other people. Um, I think it took him several months last year and through 2022 to get over that. Then he was driving beautifully and.


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[Assistant] I think it's absolutely clear that taking that eighth title is everything to him now to, to move that high tide mark on and, and be right up there and considered the greatest and, and to, to have one more than anybody else is, is important to him. And I think he will want to drive wherever he can.


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[Assistant] Achieve that. Now, if you went to Ferrari for example, would you be certain you could achieve that better there? You know, they've got a number of their own challenges at the moment.


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[Assistant] Would he get in the door at Red Bull? Could you possibly have? Because that's the only team right now you'd think he could go to.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because, you know, but could you have a Verstappen Hamilton lineup? Could you afford them? You know, how would you manage that?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Do you need that? Do you need that kind of, you know, because I think Red Bull are quite happy with her.


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[Assistant] Sort of a number one and a number one and a half driver in their car. So uhm, it's all very well saying.


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[Assistant] He'll go somewhere else, but, but where at the moment, so he's better to make what he's got in a magnificent team work. So, uhm, I think.


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[Assistant] Singapore that night and didn't even look back at the car when his McLaren had broken down again. And I think I said in commentary, he's had enough of that.


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[Assistant] Going to Mercedes looked like a risk at the time, but what we didn't know is all the things that Ross Braun and Andy Callum and many others could tell Lewis. And look, have a look at our hybrid power unit that we've got coming. We're miles ahead of anybody else. So Lewis was able to see that.


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[Assistant] He won't, I don't think he'll have that kind of head start if he moves at the moment, but...


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's obviously in the latter part of his career. I could easily see him having another five years. Look at Fernando Alonso. For example, he's three years older than Lewis and driving probably at his best or equal best. So Lewis has got, uh,


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[Assistant] One more roll of the dice, hasn't he, to join a team and make them world champions and get all the accolades that he wants. So I think that's where he's at at the moment, but if in doubt, stay put, I would have thought is,


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[Assistant] Will be what he's thinking. I want to make this, if I can make this work, that's my best solution. If not, I may have to look elsewhere.


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[Assistant] We have to remember Lewis is in the middle of a negotiation as well now.


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[Assistant] I'm 100% certain that Lewis would always follow the performance and not the money, but who's going to turn down a big paycheck if you, if you can get it as well. So, uh, and there might be some pressure at Mercedes-Benz to reduce his, uh, current pay as it were. So,


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[Assistant] You know, there's a bit of negotiation and a bit of, you know, gameplay in this as well, but I would have thought a lot of Lewis's initiatives that are very important to him and then very important initiatives are transportable.


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[Assistant] So I don't, uh, you could recreate them somewhere else. I don't think.


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[Assistant] That would stop him moving, but I do, I do think overall, when you look at the picture and we talk about him, you know, the devil, the devil, you know, or embedded or whatever, then there's a lot of good reasons to stay at Mercedes. He just needs them to tell him how they're going to sort this out. Um, but you know, Senna.


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[Assistant] You know, left, left, uh, McLaren to go to Williams, you know, Schumacher.


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[Assistant] Went off to Ferrari, didn't he? When it, where, and, and it took a long, a long time, but made that work. And so these great drivers are not scared of going somewhere and then.


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[Assistant] Galvanizing and getting a lot of new people around them and making something happen and I think


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[Assistant] You know, there must be part of Lewis thinks, do you know, I'd love to go to Ferrari and do a Michael Schumacher and really.


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[Assistant] Turn that back into, if I can't win my eighth or ninth right now.


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[Assistant] Why don't I go and have some fun there? But, um, I'm sure these are all playing in his mind and he'll be talking to his dad about this as well and his management team about where do we go from here? And, uh, you know, that will, that will be exacerbated by the dismal performance in Bahrain really of the car.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you find young people, I think, uh, less than half my age. So you will notice that I choose my words.


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[Assistant] I choose my words more carefully sometimes because my experience is we go to Saudi and Mercedes, Mercedes win the race.


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[Assistant] And all the, all the stuff comes caving in on your head. So, uh, it is a different track layout and it's, um,


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[Assistant] You know, they might, they might have found some things with it, but the form book suggests not, doesn't it? The form book suggests it's red bull comfortably.


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[Assistant] Ferrari gamely chasing them, Aston Martin have got all the upside potential on development and Mercedes in there as well somewhere. Mercedes are a mighty team. There's a lot of clever people there. They've lost some clever people, but there were hundreds more left behind. So I wouldn't write them off.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I, it is absolutely clear that they, they do need to find something pretty magical with that car. And as I said, looking at it on the grid, on the basis of if it looks right, it is right, it's not right, it's not a good looking car, it just looks lumpy.


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[Assistant] When you look at the side of a red bull, we're no aerodynamicists are we, but it just looks right somehow and the same with the Aston and what have you. So unless Mercedes I think have already got some kind of change of


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[Assistant] Uhm, the architecture of the fundamental aerodynamic architecture of their car in the pipeline. It might take some time but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, always leave a little bit spare because you just don't know what's going to happen at the next race, which is what I love about Formula One and live sport in particular.


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[Assistant] He's having a good old poke at Aston Martin instead. Uhm, a man's ego is a very ugly thing.


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[Assistant] Uh, but if, if it gets in the way of your Formula One car performing, then...


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[Assistant] You've definitely got the cart before the horse, so uhm, I don't think...


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[Assistant] Thinking in zeros and ones and they will have analyzed the whole situation to death. They decided to stick with that. I don't think it would have been based on what


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[Assistant] And what Christian might have said on Sky F1, to be honest, or Netflix about, about Toto. I, that's not, engineers, designers, they're not hardwired like that at all. They're just, they're, they're, they're sort of,


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[Assistant] Into what they do, uhm, so I, I'm pretty sure if the engineers and designers and aerodynamicists had gone to Toto and went, look, if we do it like that, we think we'll be three quarters of a second a lap faster. I don't, I think Toto would have parked his ego, to be honest.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm seeing a few traits in Lando's career, in my own career of being so close to winning races and then, uh, lucking out or just, um, making a mistake or whatever.


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[Assistant] And he's clearly a star of the future. So McLaren at the moment is all about potential when we get the wind tunnel.


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[Assistant] And there is a team that needs to find double the normal amount from an upgrade. And that's a big, that's a tall order. So they think they know where that is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, to have a, to have a slow car in Formula 1 is one thing, especially for McLaren, to have an unreliable one, and I'm having Deja Vu in 1994 here, but to have a,


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[Assistant] An unreliable and slow McLaren, uh, is a, is a terrible thing. So they need to get that sorted out, uh, in a hurry. The reliability is, you know, it just shouldn't happen these days. So, uhm, let's hope they have a better, better weekend in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in Saudi Arabia, I, you know, I want all 10 teams up there challenging for the lead. That's my dream. And so I don't like to see McLaren struggling. Uhm, and Lando.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's got time on his side, but the years start slipping past and he will be asking the same questions as George, as Lewis, as Charles.


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[Assistant] You're going to close the gap to Red Bull and who's going to do that?


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[Assistant] And why? You know, where, where, where are the resources coming from and how does cost cap affect this and how?


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's a reasonable question from a driver. Uhm, and I think if he doesn't get the right answers,


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[Assistant] At a suitable point, if he can jump into what looks like a race or championship winning car, then, then he'll have to take it.


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[Assistant] Um, formula on contracts tend to be about a hundred pages long and there's lots in them now. He ought to have an exit route out of there. Um, if, if, you know, to sign such a long deal, there's got to be performance clause. My concern, if I was in team Lando, uh, would be.


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[Assistant] The car, the performance is dropping away each season. It's not getting better and better, is it? If you look at how he's been going, it looks like it's actually fading and that's a great concern in that respect.


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[Assistant] So, if he's got a performance clause in there, uh, I don't see Lando going anywhere as a number two, frankly, I think he's...


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[Assistant] Were to be perceived that way, it soon, it soon changed that with his, with his speed, but uhm.


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[Assistant] He will, he will need to see some light at the end of a...


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[Assistant] Much shorter tunnel than he's got now, put it that way, uhm, in terms of


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[Assistant] Where, where it's all heading. Otherwise he'll start getting frustrated that he won't be.


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[Assistant] He won't be any use to the team, but I, I could see Lando dropping into Red Bull.


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[Assistant] Being able to, to, to drive for the other three teams, frankly, uhm, or Aston Martin for that matter, for that matter, they become race and championship contenders. So uhm,


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[Assistant] On the face of it, it was a bit odd at his age to sign up such a long deal, yes.


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[Assistant] Maybe a long way down the road, but I don't think Lando's got the time or the patience or the need to, you know, Audi will have to get their power unit up and running. Uh, it'll be, you know, very much a new team in that respect. So, um, it's not out of the question.


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[Assistant] But I think Landa will be looking for more certainty than joining a fledgling manufacturer.


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[Assistant] Um, who are just coming into Formula One with a new power unit.


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[Assistant] Make mistakes, there's a wall there to greet them, so there's jeopardy in making an error and the skillful, fast ones can get through and others don't quite make it.


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[Assistant] I like, you know, variety is the spice of life as they say. So I like the street circuits, the sprint weekends, the, the classics at Spa and Monza and Silverstone and Monaco.


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[Assistant] And then we have the new venues. Uhm, I think for the overall show, Jeddah looks incredible on the TV app with all the lights and razzmatazz going on.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's in my top 10 either, but I, I, I don't mind the circuit and I think there are some elements of it that


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[Assistant] When I go trackside in FP2, make me stand back and gasp a little bit. And that's happened there, there's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] I'm looking forward to Verstappen seeing as many cars in his visor as his mirrors. I'd like his mirrors to be worn out by the end of the race and need replacing.


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[Assistant] Hopefully this visit to Camerica Park ends up being a home run on a deal or two.


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[Assistant] Alright, alright pops, I'm in on the dirt. Do 120 for both dirts. We'll do it. Alright. The rest of this is all you, man.


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[Assistant] Oh my goodness. Real tears. Real actual tears, Prince. This is a...


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[Assistant] Yep. Yeah, I don't, I don't do well with hot either. This is gonna be, I'm literally, there's a possibility I can throw up.


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[Assistant] I know who Ninja is. I follow him on IG and on Twitter. You do? I do. I do know who Ninja is. I also know who Booga is.


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[Assistant] I'm going to say yes, it is a sport. Um, if you notice Michael Jordan has bought into it. Mr. Kraft has bought into an e-sport team. So yes, it is a sport.


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[Assistant] It should be severe, it should be swift, and it should be harsh.


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[Assistant] Because it's not only to punish the offender, it's also to deter others from doing said acts. So...


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[Assistant] General manager, he's gonna get at the bare minimum two years and probably a ten million dollar fine and I'm making, people are gonna lose their jobs, you gotta lose your jobs.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, if you can decipher, you shouldn't have cameras helping you skip. That's cheating!


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[Assistant] No, there's a lot of thought. When I say something, there's a lot of thought. I just don't just fly off the handle. Obviously, I give them a lot of thought and consideration. So no, I don't walk anything back.


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[Assistant] John was not very, uhm, he didn't give a whole lot, that was my job. My job was to get the guys ready to play, obviously.


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[Assistant] Ray in the 100 year history might be one of the top two or three.


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[Assistant] Motivational, inspiring. He'd have you wanting to run through a wall.


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[Assistant] He thinks LeBron is great. Don't get me wrong, he thinks LeBron is great.


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[Assistant] What am I supposed to do if he's not telling the truth? Because he's not telling the truth, I'ma do that.


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[Assistant] Hey, what's going on everybody? For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones. It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings. And by popular demand, we're joined today by Shaquille O'Neal.


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[Assistant] He's one of the most dominant players in NBA history. You can catch him as an analyst on TNT's Emmy award winning Inside the NBA. And if all that weren't enough, he's also a globally recognized DJ sensation, bringing Shaq's Funhouse to Miami Music Fest on March 29th. Shaquille O'Neal, welcome to the show.


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[Assistant] So there's a lot of debate about which NBA players can actually rap from Iman Shumpert to Allen Iverson to Damian Lillard, and I'm curious, is the only player to actually land a recording deal with a major label. Which NBA players would you allow in your cipher?


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[Assistant] And then, in addition to your own platinum records, you've been name-checked by some of the biggest rappers ever, from Biggie to Lil Wayne to 50 Cent. Do you have a favorite Shaq lyric?


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[Assistant] Is it true that you gave NSYNC their first big break by having them record in your home studio after you saw them perform the national anthem at an Orlando Magic game?


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[Assistant] We're on five, Shaq's on six, working ahead, but we have a recurring segment on our show called Explain That Gram where we do a deep dive on our guest Instagram, pull interesting pictures that need more context. So I'll bust out the laptop, I'll show you the picture, you just tell me the bigger story. Does that sound good?


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[Assistant] Alright Shaq, does this take you back?


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[Assistant] One of the most underrated shows of all time is Shaq Versus, where you take on other athletes in their own sports. Were you more proud of your performance boxing Oscar De La Hoya or swimming against Michael Phelps?


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[Assistant] I'll eat it regardless, so I'll put a little extra on the last wing. Schoenberger, where's my- where's that ball?


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[Assistant] We still have one more hurdle to dunk on before we get you out of here. And you know, you've won an MVP, you've won four NBA championships, even a gold medal.


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[Assistant] Now, I'm not the world's best free thrower, but you also have that record for the most attempted free throws with none made in a game. So this might be 11.


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[Assistant] Yeah. When? In December, uh, December 8th, 2000.


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[Assistant] It's true, that's true, but what we're gonna do is go against each other in a free throw shoot off. Now it's not just me, it's gonna be best of five.


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[Assistant] Five time, five time, five time, five time, five time champion!


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[Assistant] So did you give these to a charity auction? Yeah, yeah. Hurricane Harvey, actually. We raised some pretty good money with the boots.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I had my wrestling schools started back in 2005. You know, trying to give young people a springboard to get into the wrestling business. It's all about, you know, living out the dream. You looking for a new prodigy?


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[Assistant] Of course. So, you know, while talking about, thinking about game-worn stuff, there's a bunch of criteria I'm going to look at.


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[Assistant] Right away, the first thing I'm noticing is a little uterine stain right there. That's a good sign. Next thing I'm going to look at is, you know, the patches we have here. So this right here, SEC.


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[Assistant] Is sewn on. So if you buy a jersey in a store, it's not gonna be sewn on like that or sewn into it. It's gonna be.


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[Assistant] Either laminated or pressed, so that's a great sign there.


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[Assistant] The big thing with this is right here. So on the bottom here, replica jerseys would have an XL or XXL. This is different because it says length plus six. They wear it long. So, you know, this is definitely game used.


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[Assistant] And it's very rare because they only get a few a season. And Devin Booker only being there for a year? You're not gonna see this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'm gonna look at the tag right in here. And it's cool because in the tag it says promo sample because these are player edition. Definitely authentic. And it's a 13, so yeaah, that is his size. So, I'm very confident saying that these are game worn.


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[Assistant] Alright, so looking at the jersey first, it is college, so it's a collector's item. There's not many out there, if any. I would probably say about $2,500?


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[Assistant] These are obviously super rare player edition. These do not surface a lot at all. And this was the debut game. I'd say $4,000.


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[Assistant] So my sister's mother-in-law had passed away and uhm, those were in the estate.


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[Assistant] What you know about Dr. J? I know a lot about Dr. J. I mean, really one of the greatest nicknames of all time.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of times he varied up. If he was in a hurry, you'd just get Dr. J. That's it. I wanna look at the ink. Let's dig in. Okay.


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[Assistant] And the first thing I just want to do is I always make sure that we have live ink. You know, and instantly I could see the overlapping.


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[Assistant] Next thing I want to do, I want to take a look at this signature compared to what I've got on record. In this one he did include Dr. J.


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[Assistant] But he writes his full name out, Julius Irving. And he starts off with this J that was nice and long and flowing. He has a very distinct way of signing his name. You know, with everything I've seen here, the ink, the exemplars, there's no question in my mind that Julius Irving signed this. Alright, now to answer your other question. You know, what's interesting on this shoe,


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[Assistant] Is this was a game you shoe that sold recently and you have the same Dr. J stamping, which you could see on here.


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[Assistant] So that's kind of a good sign to tie these two things together when you're looking at the game used item.


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[Assistant] But you know, you look at the bottom, there's really not a lot of use on this. Could these be game used? It's possible. Could I go on a limb and say that? I can't, but I'd say that all signs kinda point towards that.


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[Assistant] I would say based on everything I see here, the signature, everything else, you know, something like this can be worth about four or five hundred dollars.


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[Assistant] I was moving into my house and the putterer was sitting in the closet.


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[Assistant] I'm really not a Frank Sinatra fan. I'm pretty old, but I'm not that old. I don't need it, and golf is boring. Are you a golfer?


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[Assistant] No. I'm going to probably hang on to it. Okay. Alright. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. I was shocked. Really shocked. But, I'm just going to keep it and uh, see what happens. I'm definitely not going to take up golf and I really hate golf now. I really hate it.


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[Assistant] So, these were charts that were turned into tapestries. They were commissioned by the Lord Admiral Ethingham, who was in charge of the entire English fleet. There were ten tapestries originally. Okay.


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[Assistant] The most interesting thing about the engravings is the fact how many artists were involved in the production of them in the period of time. The level of workmanship that goes into these kind of images you very, very rarely see anymore in the modern works. It's in pretty damn good shape.


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[Assistant] This one's actually a little bit nicer. You don't have as bad of creasing. You don't have any kind of staining on them. So these are the ones printed in 1739.


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[Assistant] The amount of work to fake these would not be worth it. At this point in time, it would cost a fortune to do that hand coloring.


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[Assistant] Alright, thanks Matt, I really appreciate it. I appreciate you having me. These particular engravings are very rare, especially in this condition. I think it's something the shop can make money from.


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[Assistant] Yeah, here we go. New Deal Rodeo, Taylor's right here. North Hollywood, California.


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[Assistant] So, there's a guy named Nuta. He was like a tailor. I mean, this was the guy who created the Mystique of the Rhinestone Cowboy.


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[Assistant] These western suits began to getting popular and over the years they got more and more and more flamboyant. So every rock star was buying them. And if you were in that industry back then, you weren't nothing unless you had a nudie suit. So how much do you want for this?


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[Assistant] Okay, so first off, it's thousands of dollars just for a nudie jacket. Uhm, you never find them with the pants. And these things were so expensive to begin with. Most guys just got the jacket, they didn't get a full suit.


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[Assistant] And we'll get you paid and then we'll donate it, then we'll get a tax deduction so I won't cost you as much money. That's right. Okay, do we have a deal?


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[Assistant] James Brown really was the hardest working man in show business. This guy had over 100 singles that made the charts and made almost 50 albums.


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[Assistant] How do you know it's James Brown's? Maybe he doesn't have his name in it.


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[Assistant] I just want someone to confirm it's James Brown. Sure. Okay. And if you don't mind hanging out a little bit, I know a guy who's literally the best in the business. Let me go grab him for you, okay? Okay.


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[Assistant] Not exactly. I mean, this has to be displayed. This has to be, a frame has to be made. And on a suit like this, it's gonna cost me 500 bucks. So...


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[Assistant] I'll make anywhere between five hundred and three thousand dollars. That's the weirdness of my business.


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[Assistant] Okay. I'll give you 2100. That's what I could do. I will give you 2100 bucks.


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[Assistant] I love the Colonel. He was working at a crappy gas station in Kentucky and one day he said, let's sell some chickens. Before he knew it, he was an American icon. Talk about cooking up some damn fine chickens.


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[Assistant] This thing is awesome, and I'm sure it could be worth $40,000 to the right collector, but that person would have to love KFC. To everyone else, it's neat, but it's not 40 grand neat.


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[Assistant] I see the Sundance Kid. Paul Newman was an icon. As an actor, he was a huge star. But he was also a director, a humanitarian, and even a race car driver.


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[Assistant] I mean the cool thing is, is this had to have been the suit he wore when he raced the Baja 1000. This wasn't a regular car race, this was an off-road race, which he didn't do a lot of.


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[Assistant] There's like no paperwork or pictures of him signing it or anything like that.


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[Assistant] I mean seriously, how much did you want for it? Ten thousand dollars.


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[Assistant] Normally I'd have no problem selling this to a collector of racing or Hollywood memorabilia. But this guy wants three or four times what I'd probably get for it. If I can't have him come down to Earth on his price, there's no point even having this thing checked out.


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[Assistant] So we're way, way off. If you're willing to take a reasonable number, I'll get someone in here, get this signature authenticated and everything else. I'll look into a reasonable number.


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[Assistant] Okay, I got a buddy named Drew, he's like the best in the business. Let me get him down here, look at the autograph, just make sure everything's legit, and uhm, we'll go from there. Okay. Alright, I'll be right back. Okay.


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[Assistant] This is the suit I called you about. Okay. Signed by Paul Newman, supposedly.


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[Assistant] I'd love to have it, but when I sell something, I gotta guarantee it. The way it is right now, all I have is your word. And we don't take that.


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[Assistant] Thanks for bringing it in. I'm really bummed that Drew couldn't verify the signature on this piece because it would have been a really cool item for the shop. But whenever there's a question about the authenticity of an item, it's always better to be safe than sorry.


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[Assistant] He became our costumer through 73, all the way up to 76, and this was costuming at its finest.


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[Assistant] The Nudie suit, uh, has kind of come into its own over the years. We became clients with Nudie in 1972. Those suits appear on the cover of ZZ Top's Fandango record. So we've had a long history with these shiny rhinestone suits. It's pretty fun.


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[Assistant] What you have laid before me brings back a lot of memories.


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[Assistant] A garment, uh, of this rarity and at this quality.


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[Assistant] It's not surprising to see a real, genuine nudie go as much as...


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[Assistant] I don't want to see it walk out the door. If we could make a deal, uhm, Antone's Blues Museum down in Austin, Texas.


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[Assistant] And oh my god, look at that. Is that what I think it is? It is what you think it is. The original.


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[Assistant] Michael Keaton, 1992, Batman Returns.


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[Assistant] He's got the original motor and transmission, power brakes, power steering. I want it safe for my wife to drive. We'd get groceries in it. I mean, this was her daily driver.


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[Assistant] 90,000. Can we take it for a spin? Keys are in it.


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[Assistant] I'll send the password you're seeing. Keep it under a hundred, Rick.


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[Assistant] Rick, I can't sway it. I can't do that. Will you do 70?


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[Assistant] Man, I can't swing it. I can't get that knee.


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[Assistant] The reason why I called the guys from the pawn shop today is to come down and look at my 1960s golf cart. When I picked it up, I was highly intoxicated riding dirt bikes in the desert. I'm hoping to get about $300 for it, but I'll take 50 bucks just so my wife doesn't yell at me.


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[Assistant] Where in the world did you get this? I got it out in the desert, me and my friend were dirt biking, threw it in the back of my truck, thought I could restore it, but it's just too much work for me.


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[Assistant] I did some research on it, I think it's like from the 1960s, so. It was made by Marketer, it was like one of the first electric cars.


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[Assistant] It turns. The motor turns? Yea, it turns. We just need a new belt, that's it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, looks like you need a lot more than a belt guy. It's not that bad. A couple of tires, maybe some new upholstery. It's like putting a little lipstick on.


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[Assistant] I did some research on it. They go for a lot of money when they're all restored and charried out, so... 300 bucks.


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[Assistant] 150 bucks. Awesome. Thank you. I'm totally happy that I got 150 for it. I thought I'd be lucky to get 25, so I'm very excited. That'll make my wife happy. Tom, you're not pushing.


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[Assistant] That's a lot lower than I expected. You're factoring in obviously the framing and stuff like that too. I'm just kind of looking at the autograph itself. Sure.


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[Assistant] Looks like you found a baseball. 1962 All-Star Game, American League.


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[Assistant] The All-Star Game gives fans a great chance to see the best of the AL face off against the best of the National League.


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[Assistant] Here, specifically in 1962, these were some amazing games.


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[Assistant] These days we have the homerun derby attached to it and also the winner of the all-star game decides home field advantage for the World Series. We'll do your magic. Alright man, let's see who we have on this ball. On the bottom, Hall of Famer, Tigers great Al Kaline. And right above him, another Tiger slugger, Rocky Calovito. And then we go over here to the sweet spot. We have Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle. And on the reverse side, it's a little tough to make out, but we have Roger Maris. If this baseball has all real autographs,


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[Assistant] But, the one big concern with balls from this era are clubhouse signatures.


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[Assistant] We thought about signatures when you have a multi-signed item. They're not meant to fool somebody. They're just not the actual person who signed it.


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[Assistant] Kayline and, uh, Paparizzo, 100% good. But right here on the sweet spot, Yogi Berri and Mickey Mantle.


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[Assistant] Very popular Yankees players, both in the Hall of Fame, signed a lot of autographs over the years. I have never seen an autograph of either of them look like that.


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[Assistant] Now the main one is Roger Maris. Of all the guys on this baseball, he's the one name you want to see. What you want to look at is the RN Roger and the MM Maris. Now the RN Roger forms an oval up top and slants to the right.


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[Assistant] Bad news, he could not have picked a worse spot to sign it because of the stamping behind it. You're looking at about


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[Assistant] Hey, how's it going? I have something really cool for you. What do we got? I have the rosters from a game that was managed by Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth. Wow, okay. Ty Cobb actually autographed Babe Ruth's roster. Whoa. And then there's a cool program for this game.


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[Assistant] Yes, Beirut, coast to east and then Tycop coast to west.


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[Assistant] So what are you looking to do with these? We're hoping to sell it.


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[Assistant] I was expecting 1,500. I ended up getting 2,000. Super excited. Gonna head home, pack up the kids. We're going on vacation.


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[Assistant] I have an Olympic torch. Oh man, that is awesome. Uhm, may I take a look? Sure.


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[Assistant] Okay, so 1984 Los Angeles Olympic Games. That's correct. Where in the world did you get this? I ran with it. Did you? Yes. The 1984 games in Los Angeles, the United States destroyed the competition.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, our success is a little bit lopsided because of the boycott. The 1984 games were going on amidst the Cold War between us and the Soviet Union. In 1980, we boycotted the games in Moscow, and again in 1984, the Soviet Union returned the favor and boycotted the LA games. In the world of international sports, there's no symbol more profound than an Olympic torch.


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[Assistant] In 1984, the torches sold for a donation of around a few thousand dollars. So obviously there was a lot of these. This particular year, there was five thousand.


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[Assistant] In dealing with sports memorabilia, you don't see Olympic torches come up for sale all too often, uh, but when they do, they're highly collectible and there's many people that fight over them. So Rick, what are your main concerns about the torch? What's it worth? Okay.


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[Assistant] But that's for one limited under 22 production made back in the 50s.


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[Assistant] This badge right here, it's absolutely notorious. I think it's about a $50 item at least.


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[Assistant] At least 150 bucks with a lot of room beyond that given the right collector. You have about a 200 dollar collection here.


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[Assistant] Hey Jeremy, what's up? Rick, what's going on man? I own Ultimate Sports Cards and memorabilia here in Las Vegas, and I'm an expert in sports memorabilia and cards.


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[Assistant] And they kinda did that by just obliterating the competition, winning 16 medals. It was the first time that they'd even ever played ice hockey, and they actually won the gold.


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[Assistant] So how did the United States do that year? The United States did okay. We won seven medals total. We definitely dominated in the figure skating.


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[Assistant] Uh, we won a silver in hockey, and for the US hockey team, placing ahead of Canada, getting the silver in the Olympics, that was certainly a first for us, and a big feat nonetheless. So what are your concerns about the jacket, Rick?


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[Assistant] There's no hood, which I can see that from right here would snap on. And right here on the inside, we certainly do have some different tags right here.


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[Assistant] Well, what I can tell you is that this is without a doubt one of the coats issued to the 56th Winter Olympic team.


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[Assistant] Now as far as the value goes, you'd mentioned that it was bought at a thrift shop so we couldn't pin it to any particular athlete. You know, had it been the gold medal winners in figure skating, it would bump it up considerably. The fact we're missing a hood.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would probably value this code at $800. That's it? Yeah, it is a narrow market for something like this.


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[Assistant] A50, uhm, yeaah, that's around what I would probably see it selling for. These are really rare and unique, so you might be able to turn it for something there, sure.


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[Assistant] This may not be the original Black Betsy that was owned by Joe Jackson, but manufactured bats from the all-time greats from this era are extremely collectible.


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[Assistant] Okay, we do see the Spalding model, Black Betsy right there, and we have the logo, Mark. We should see, right here on the Batknob, again, we do see Spalding's trademark. Okay.


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[Assistant] Now as far as the value of it, we do have some condition issues here. The decal right here, there's a lot of paint missing.


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[Assistant] That $800. 800 bucks, huh? Yea. Right on, my man. I appreciate you coming in. You got it, Cory. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Babe Ruth, Sultan of Swat, Bambino, I mean this guy holds major league records that are still intact today. He hit over 40 home runs 11 times, hit 61 season, and all this while maintaining a 342 batting average. I mean, the guy is unstoppable.


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[Assistant] Signed gloves are extremely rare because the oils in the glove can, over time, kill the signature. Uh, right here in the webbing, this is what they call a, uh, single tunnel loop, which puts it in the period of late 20s, early 30s.


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[Assistant] This bat would be from the period 1919 through 1929, which is the time that these guys could have both potentially signed this piece. And it does have the right kind of wear on it.


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[Assistant] Now as far as the authentication for the bat here, I gotta tell you, this one makes me very nervous.


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[Assistant] The gentleman listed on this authentication was implicated in this enormous FBI sting operation in the late 1990s. It was called Operation Bullpen and it was all around getting fraudulent signatures on memorabilia. Absolutely. And therefore, auction houses won't recognize his authentication as legitimate.


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[Assistant] The signatures are very dark, and in my opinion, they don't look aged consistent with the age of the bat. Also, Christy Matthewson and Babe Ruth, they hardly overlapped. Matthewson retired in 1916, and Ruth really wouldn't have been anybody who wanted to get to sign an autograph until probably 1919. I have serious doubts about its validity.


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[Assistant] It's a ticket stub from the 1900 Olympic Games.


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[Assistant] I love collecting Olympic tickets. I'm looking to sell so I can turn around and pick up some of the few that I need to complete my collection.


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[Assistant] Now rings that are given to players are far more valuable than if they're given to a front office staff member or something. What I know of Ricky Bryant, he actually pretty much was on the practice squad for most of the season. But he was a player.


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[Assistant] Even guys in the practice squad do get rings. At this point, this ring was the heaviest and it was the most expensive ring that they had ever made for any Super Bowl game. It's cast in 14k white gold, it's got 124 diamonds, and also it says three out of four. They won three Super Bowls out of the last four years, which is an absolutely remarkable feat that only the Dallas Cowboys had done previously to that.


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[Assistant] When it comes to modern sports memorabilia, there's nothing that's more sought after and valuable than a Super Bowl ring, especially worn by a player. Unfortunately, anytime you have a high profile item, counterfeiters figure out creative ways to pass off fakes.


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[Assistant] Okay, I see we got, uh, Jostens. Usually you would see that not only in a different location, but it looks to be actually hand engraved rather than actually out of the machine.


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[Assistant] Okay, cool. So this ring is 100% legit and it's pretty awesome. Sweet.


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[Assistant] So what do you think it's worth? Well we have a ring from one of the most popular teams ever.


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[Assistant] It's loaded with gold and diamonds, Super Bowl rings from players such as this, so.


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[Assistant] With the whole AFL-NFL merger, these were just called simply AFL-NFL World Championship games. During the 1960s, there was a huge rivalry between the AFL and the NFL. Which league was superior? So when leagues finally agreed to merge, Super Bowl I was the contest where the teams could finally prove who was better.


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[Assistant] Super Bowl III was the first one where it actually on the program it was printed Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] It's exactly it. Lamar Hunt, owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, basically his little girl was playing with a Super Bowl. And they already had the Rose Bowl and everything, so they needed some kind of term that would just kind of encompass the fact that this is the championship game. So, Super Bowl, Rose Bowl, Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Yeah, basically how it works is that when they started the first Super Bowl, they started issuing championship rings for the winning team. In addition to that, at the organization's discretion, they would issue


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[Assistant] Pendants, uh, charms, things like that to players' wives, different people in the scouting organization. Pretty much anybody they deemed worthy that didn't get a actual championship ring.


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[Assistant] So what we want to see on the back is the insignia from, in this case, Jostin, since they made the championship rings for 1 and 2. So let's have a look.


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[Assistant] So these are actually both authentic. Now there is one discrepancy. I've seen a couple of these come up.


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[Assistant] It's usually with the greenstone. I've never seen one that actually has a blue stone in it.


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[Assistant] That would lead me to believe that the original stone might have fallen off or was replaced at a certain time.


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[Assistant] Of course being Super Bowl 1, but the fact it's not the right stone might bring it down.


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[Assistant] In the end, you're looking at about a grand a piece.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, if these were championship rings, you'd have well over a hundred grand here. Uh, but, being that they're not the ones issued to players, they're not gonna be worth quite as much.


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[Assistant] Finding memorabilia from Super Bowl I and II, it's truly amazing. Because the game has essentially evolved into a holiday. You know, you have tailgating, the pregame coverage, the commercials, the halftime show.


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[Assistant] Back then, your tickets costed 12 bucks, only 50,000 people watched, and your halftime show was a marching band.


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[Assistant] So when the Cowboys drafted Bob Hayes, everybody doubted the fact that an Olympic sprinter could be an effective NFL player.


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[Assistant] He actually set several Cowboys records, some of which still stand today.


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[Assistant] Not only is he in the football hall of fame, he's also in the Cowboys ring of honor. Doesn't get any better than that. Yea, the guy's done it all. Yes.


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[Assistant] Bob Hayes is probably one of the most underrated players in NFL history. He was so fast, they had to institute the zone defense and the bump and run just to have a shot at stopping this.


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[Assistant] This letter in itself doesn't really do a whole lot for it.


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[Assistant] But the actual facts surrounding whether this is authentic or not is going to be told in the actual jersey itself. Yeah.


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[Assistant] This is from the 60s. It's number 22, just like Bob Hayes wore. They wore this style of jersey throughout the 63 season.


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[Assistant] Starting in 64, they would have gone to a different style of jersey with the stripes on the sleeves. And being that Bob Hayes was a rookie in 1965, this jersey right here,


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[Assistant] It's still a historic piece of cowboy's history, so it does have some value, but in this tattered condition,


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[Assistant] It's really impossible to say whether or not Hayes wore that jersey during a practice or a photo shoot. We just know that this jersey wouldn't have been worn by him during the season. Take care, man.


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[Assistant] The Miami Dolphins are a team extremely rich in history and to see a playbook from their days when they joined the AFL is really cool. It was guys like Bob Greasy, Larry Zonka, and legendary coach Don Shula, who's one more than any other coach in the history of the NFL, and went on to accomplish what no other team has accomplished before, the perfect season, which they did in 1972.


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[Assistant] Playbooks themselves, they date back over a hundred years and in a sense they contain all of the team's secrets. It's literally like learning another language between all the blocking assignments and different routes and packages. The books have just exponentially grown not only in size but complexity and they can be even upwards of about a thousand pages these days.


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[Assistant] So Rick, what concerns did you have about the book? Uhm, what is something like this worth? I mean, is there even a market for this?


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[Assistant] We're talking about the 66 Dolphins here. It's not like we have Vince Lombardi's Packers. Both books together. Itinerary and all you're looking at. At about 400 bucks.


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[Assistant] Nice. The guys call me down to the shop anytime they have a piece of sports memorabilia that they have questions about.


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[Assistant] So, Super Bowl I. 1967 was the first Super Bowl from the 66 team.


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[Assistant] We got the Green Bay Packers. We have nine guys that would be eventually inducted into the Hall of Fame on this team. This ball is just loaded with Hall of Famers and just huge names for the Packers. The main name on this ball that we want to see is Vince Lombardi, which we can see right here. Okay. What's it worth?


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[Assistant] Now obviously condition is a factor with this. Uh, this isn't terrible, but by no means is this close to being mint condition.


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[Assistant] Now if we really have here a football from the Packers Super Bowl I champions, these things can be worth, uhm,


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[Assistant] They're on 10 grand with the right kind of paperwork. Wow.


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[Assistant] This unfortunately is not the 1966 Green Bay Packers team sign ball. What we have here is a 1968 Packers team sign ball.


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[Assistant] We know it's not a 69 ball because there's also Jerry Kramer on this ball whose last season was 1968. Also, Paul Horning is nowhere on this ball and if it was a Super Bowl ball he would certainly be on here.


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[Assistant] Uh, Rick, with the right authentication and everything, the very most I would see the selling for is, uhm,


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[Assistant] About 800 bucks. Alright. Well thanks Jeremy. You bet.


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[Assistant] The fact that you have guys from the 1968 team who weren't on the Super Bowl team actually devalues it.


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[Assistant] No other team in the NFL has more wins than Chicago Bears. The 1967 season was absolutely huge, but it wasn't because of their record. They barely had a winning season, but that was the last year of an era for them.


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[Assistant] Coach George Hallis, after 40 years, that was his last year coaching. The 1967 squad also had some marquee players in Dick Buccas, Gale Sayers, and what became Brian Piccolo as well. The Chicago Bears are one of the two oldest teams who are still playing in the NFL, and as far as fan bases go, they have one of the most loyal fan bases of any team out there. What concerns do you have?


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[Assistant] Alright, so right here, first off of that, we have Gale Sayers. He went to the Pro Bowl five consecutive years, had two Russian titles, and is the youngest guy ever to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. From there, we go on to Dick Buccus, who was in the Hall of Fame as well. Right in the middle, George Halas.


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[Assistant] Legendary coach, probably one of the most influential and important people in football history. Now to the left of his name, right here we have Brian Piccolo, who at this time he was just a backup to Gale Sayers, but over time he would become immortal thanks largely to Brian Song the movie, which makes him, of everybody on this whole ball, the most important signature on here.


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[Assistant] Fortunately he had a run-in with cancer and passed away at the age of 26. Brian Song came out in the early 70s and he became an instant phenomenon amongst fans.


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[Assistant] Now if we're dealing with an official ball, mint condition signatures, we'd be talking several thousand dollars. Now looking at some of the signatures, we have to determine whether or not these are even authentic ones.


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[Assistant] With George Hallis, the two key characteristics are the G in George and the H in Hallis. These, uh, signatures are very difficult to fake. And it's the same thing on Dick Butkus. I mean, his D almost looks like an N. A lot of people say, hey, who's this guy, Nick Butkus? But it's got a very distinct signature. So, those signatures.


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[Assistant] Now the other signatures, you really gotta focus on the characteristics of the autograph compared against other ones that have been proven to be authentic. And if we compare a Brian Piccolo signature here,


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[Assistant] To the one on the football, primarily in the B, how it forms and how at the end here, the L and the O dips off. These are contrasting signatures.


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[Assistant] Typical for what you see in a clubhouse signature. They were signed by somebody else other than the athlete.


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[Assistant] Gale Sayers, the signatures I'm familiar with, it's a very robust, full letter G. This one just, uh, isn't characteristic of other Gale Sayers I've seen from the late part of the 1960s. So, the Sayers, like the Piccolo, in my opinion these are Clubhouse autographs.


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[Assistant] So, you know, for a Chargers fan, you don't really have a lot of historically great things that happen to root for, so you're looking at the late 70s, early 80s, this was the time to be a Chargers fan.


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[Assistant] You gotta understand, I mean, when Danfouts came to the team, they were a losing franchise. Danfouts was the prolific passer of that time. On average, their offense would put up about 30 points per game, which is just unheard of back then when the game usually focused on defense and running. I just wanna make sure it's legit. Okay. This is what I have here, this is...


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[Assistant] From PSA's website directly, this is an example of a dampout signature. So what I'd like to do, we'll turn it over, we'll compare the two, the characteristics of the autograph, and I'll let you know what it is. Okay. The signature is really, really blobby. Ah, the old paint pen, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Looking at a Dan Faust signature, you just want to focus on a couple of the key characteristics. It's a very small compact signature, starting with the D and Dan. All of the signatures I've seen, it's a pair of stacked loops with the top loop being significantly larger than the bottom.


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[Assistant] And then the F, that's the main thing you want to look at. It's a standalone letter and the lower bar in the F is always going to be symmetrical with the cross and the T. Based on my experience, I've seen a lot of damped out signatures out there comparing it with the template.


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[Assistant] Okay, sweet. So what do these jerseys go for?


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[Assistant] Unless you're from the San Diego area, grew up watching them, there's just not a lot of new collectors out there looking for damp fowls. You're looking at about 150 bucks here.


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[Assistant] Well cool man, thanks. Hey, you got it man. Thanks. Hey, good luck to you. Alright, good to meet you.


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[Assistant] If this jersey was game worn, we'd be talking completely different numbers. You know, game issued equipment doesn't come up for auction too often, and when it does, with a player like Dan Fouts's career, it would go for thousands of dollars.


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[Assistant] Hey Big Hoss, got a new pinky ring for you. Where's yours it from?


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[Assistant] Tells you something about the times, doesn't it? Yeah. So are these guys working full-time jobs after the football season?


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[Assistant] The Giants were actually the favorite going into this game, but no one really knew about the condition of the field. Green Bay Packers wore cleats, and the Giants, half of them wore the cleats and half of them went with shoes because they figured the field would be froze over. Really wasn't the case. Then that's probably one of the main reasons Green Bay came in and just killed them.


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[Assistant] The Giants made a huge mistake thinking that their sneakers would grip to the field. The Green Bay Packers wore cleats and the game kinda rode itself. You mind if I take a look through it?


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[Assistant] Players back then aren't like players today. These are all knuckle-busting guys, you know. These are the kind of guys you'd find out on the oil field or doing a real man's job coming out there to play football. Yeah.


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[Assistant] This is a cool piece of NFL history, but it's mass produced and it's really not that rare.


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[Assistant] So what do you want to do with it? I'd like to sell it. And what are you asking for? $200 is what I want.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, I've seen similar championship game programs sell for 10 bucks online. What are you willing to offer me? Uhm, I would offer you about 10 bucks, man.


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[Assistant] It's definitely a piece of NFL history that's worth having, but the value is just not there.


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[Assistant] My kids thought it was the greatest thing in the world and then I would tell my kids it's fake and they'd go shut up dad.


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[Assistant] Like The Undertaker's manager or something like that? Correct. They put like white powder on his face to make him really look macabre and he had like an urn he walked around with.


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[Assistant] I don't see that there. I've sold Super Bowl rings for less money. You know, I'd give you four grand for it.


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[Assistant] It's a weird thing, you know what I mean? Because, you know, I deal a lot in sports rings, but this is not a sports ring. This is a sorta sports ring.


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[Assistant] It's really neat that he's from the Hall of Fame and all these other things, and that's why I'm offering four grand, but I, I, I don't see anything more than that.


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[Assistant] Oh, his wrestler buddy? That's what it was, a wrestler buddy. Well, you're like, probably like 10 years old when you had a wrestler buddy. Then you had it for years, which I found a little weird.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what's that? You're gonna love this. So do you remember when Cory was little?


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[Assistant] And I got him the autograph picture from Hulk Hogan.


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[Assistant] To make it up to him, I got a vintage wrestler buddy.


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[Assistant] I'm actually gonna go to the National in Chicago, one of like the largest memorabilia show there is. Hulk Hogan's gonna be there, and hoping to have Hulk Hogan sign this for him. Yeah, brother!


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[Assistant] I'm at a collector's convention in Chicago and ever since I got here, I've had my ear to the ground in search of Cory's childhood hero. I just found out that the Hulk is actually here. So hopefully I can get him to sign this thing and get a selfie with him. Otherwise, Cory will never believe me.


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[Assistant] I literally am gonna be the greatest dad in the world to Cory. Even though he'll never admit it.


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[Assistant] It is a special gift for you. This is a Hulk Hogan wrestler buddy that I had signed by the man himself.


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[Assistant] I knew you would believe me. So...


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[Assistant] That's a lookalike. Nope. The real deal, I got it done for ya. You can even call Steve Grad and have it checked out.


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[Assistant] You're just trying to play cool right now, play the soft guy, but I know you love it. Thank you, Ted.


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[Assistant] Hold on one second. Chubb! Yeah? There's some wrestling stuff over here.


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[Assistant] What? Wrestling stuff. Mankind. And some guy named Dude Love.


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[Assistant] But as a character, he was like, dude love, but he beat people up.


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[Assistant] Okay, Steve's not around. I can't get him to come down and look at that signature.


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[Assistant] He's part of the reason football is football today. He made it extremely popular.


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[Assistant] Newt Rockne is one of the greatest coaches ever. His strategies and tactics changed the way football was played and made it a national obsession.


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[Assistant] Couple things I think are interesting about the letter. Talks about the effects of tobacco on athletes. So your grandfather wrote a letter to Newt Rockne about athletes and cigarette smoking.


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[Assistant] Any advertisements to the effect that smoking cigarettes helps an athlete is a falsehood. Yours truly, Newt Rockne.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, everyone knew cigarettes were bad for you. Yeah, duh.


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[Assistant] Uhm, even back then, uh, but remember you had really powerful interests who did not want that in the newspapers or on the radio at the time.


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[Assistant] I mean, my big concern is whether or not he actually signed it. I mean, it was real common back in the day, people who were famous, they would get all these letters in from people, everyone wanting autographs, and they generally assign somebody to sign everything for them.


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[Assistant] Let me get my guy down here just to make sure this is an authentic signature of Newt Rockme. Uh, because if it's signed by a secretary, I don't want it at all. That sounds great. Alright, I'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Now that I know the signature is really Newt Rocknees, I really want this thing. College football collectors would go crazy for anything related to him. Alright, so how much are you looking to get out of it? I probably want 5,000 bucks for it.


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[Assistant] To get that kind of money, you're gonna need to open up a store in Indiana. You have to be realistic. I have to make money off this thing. I'll give you fifteen hundred.


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[Assistant] I like what's in the text. I like that he signed it. It's Newt Brockney. But, I gotta take it out of this frame right here, cause, quite frankly, your frame sucks.


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[Assistant] Your picture of Newt Rockby sucks. You know, it sits around for a while. If you want two thousand bucks, I'll give you two thousand bucks.


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[Assistant] And you are proud of these, aren't you? I'm pretty proud of them.


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[Assistant] You've got the stamping over part of the signature. Signature would rate about a 7 right now.


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[Assistant] There's still nothing saying it was for tickets. Given the fact of where the checks are at right now, and where I see them sell every day, I'd say you're talking a ballpark value of about $4,000.


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[Assistant] Good luck. Thanks man. Thanks, good to see you. Alright. Thanks, nice seeing you. Alright. Take care.


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[Assistant] $10,000 is pretty steep just for a babe root check. I sure hope he's not upset about it. And I also think the guy needs to get a haircut.


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[Assistant] But the people in Berlin sort of liked it because it was the first time in years where they actually had a little bit of freedom. Okay.


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[Assistant] The 1936 Olympics happened at a really crazy time. Hitler was in power, but when the Olympic committee granted Berlin the right to the Olympics that year, he wasn't in power. They never expected this racist a-hole to be running the Olympics.


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[Assistant] So, you're in this thing a hundred bucks. Yes sir. And how much do you want for it?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, it's really historically significant, but every other gift shop would have these things.


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[Assistant] Coach George Hallis, after 40 years, that was his last year coaching. The 1967 squad also had some marquee players in Dick Buccas, Gale Sayers, and what became Brian Piccolo as well.


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[Assistant] The Chicago Bears are one of the two oldest teams who are still playing in the NFL, and as far as fan bases go, they have one of the most loyal fan bases of any team out there. What concerns do you have?


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[Assistant] Alright, so right here, first off of that, we have Gale Sayers. He went to the Pro Bowl five consecutive years, had two Russian titles, and is the youngest guy ever to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] From there, we go on to Dick Buccus, who's in the Hall of Fame as well. Right in the middle, George Hallis.


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[Assistant] Legendary coach, probably one of the most influential and important people in football history. Now to the left of his name, right here we have Brian Piccolo, who at this time he was just a backup to Gale Sayers, but over time he would become immortal thanks largely to Brian Song the movie, which makes him, of everybody on this whole ball, the most important signature on here.


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[Assistant] Brian Piccolo came to the Chicago Bears as a backup to Gale Sayers.


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[Assistant] Fortunately he had a run-in with cancer and passed away at the age of 26. Brian Song came out in the early 70s and he became an instant phenomenon amongst fans.


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[Assistant] Now, looking at some of the signatures, we have to determine whether or not these are even authentic ones.


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[Assistant] Now the other signatures, you really gotta focus on the characteristics of the autograph compared against other ones that have been proven to be authentic. And if we compare a Brian Piclo signature here,


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[Assistant] To the one on the football, primarily in the B, how it forms and how at the end here, the L and the O dips off. These are contrasting signatures, very...


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[Assistant] Typical for what you see in a clubhouse signature. They were signed by somebody else other than the athlete.


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[Assistant] Gale Sayers, the signatures I'm familiar with, it's a very robust, full letter G. This one just, uh, isn't characteristic of other Gale Sayers I've seen from the late part of the 1960s. So, the Sayers, like the Piccolo, in my opinion these are Clubhouse autographs.


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[Assistant] Considering the kind of ball it's on, which ones are real versus which are in a clubhouse, you're looking at maybe tops.


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[Assistant] Thousand bucks. That's a big difference.


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[Assistant] What's it say? Nature Boy, Ric Flair. I don't know what this says. Something 16 times? Yea, as a world champion 16 times.


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[Assistant] And the really cool thing is, it has this little compartment here with the flies. Fly fishing, I mean it...