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[Assistant] Unorganized or like how the Bronco, how Russ and Nathaniel Hackett and the Broncos is in general. They just didn't look like they were on the same page and you kept hearing.


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[Assistant] I think Peyton Manning mentioned it because he said he talked to, he talked to Russell. He's like, he's like, I'm not sure who is calling the place. And you sort of wonder, like, is that like, that's a pretty big concern moving forward, right? Where it's.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, look, they know internally who is. I mean, they don't need to tell on the outside. I mean, look at the New England Patriots, for example. No, no, no. He was saying like between Russ and Hackett. Right.


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[Assistant] Like Russ is going to call the place sometimes because that's, you know, Russ, he's mentioned it being his offense. And I mean,


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. Like at times you could tell that Russ was like changing the play call at the line, which is not unusual for a veteran quarterback. He played for a long time. I mean, if he needs to get in the best play, he could do that. You know, that's probably part of when he got there. Some of the things you want to talk to them about that. That's not the bothersome thing to me. I think the bothersome thing is just situationally. Like as a first time head coach, there's a lot of adjustments that you need to make throughout the course of the game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean, look, are they gonna fumble the ball on the one yard line, uh, in another game this year? Probably not ever, you know, the rest of the time to thank O'Haget's head coach.


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[Assistant] Uhm, defensively though, I thought that was the biggest departure that like watching that team from what they were with Vic Fangio. I was like, God, like if they could always have Vic Fangio back, you know, with his scheme for what they want to do with the defense, it just was a,


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[Assistant] Was a long departure from what they were and I think they were a quarterback away under Vic and now I don't know what to describe. That's an interesting. They were a quarterback away under Vic. It's like you were a quarterback away when you had that defense. Right now you're.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, you have a quarterback, but you might not have the defense, right? Cause I mean, you know, smooth carved him up. She looks like a great plan. Don't get me wrong, but you know.


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[Assistant] This is a defense that, in my opinion, has Pat Sartani as one of the best cornerbacks in the league. And, you know, look, I can imagine that Pat Sartani looks at DK Metcalfe and goes, probably don't want to press him the entire game because there's going to be times when that big human being is going to be able to get by me, you know, with his speed, with his size and strength.


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[Assistant] You know, it's gonna be hard to jam a guy like that in the line of scrimmage. But, I also would imagine that it's hard to run up and tackle him. Especially if he gets the ball in his hand quick and it can face me up.


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[Assistant] That's going to be, it's going to be hard to bring him down. So I might want to stop that process before I get started and try to disrupt his route, disrupt the timing and then hope that I can make a contest to play on a football so he never catches the football in the first place.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean, that's how I would view that, but I think you saw a lot more, you know, post tie coverage. You saw a lot more physicality from the defensive backs and the receivers, 200 Vic Fangio and just better pass rush. I mean, better against the run. Uhm, you know, different ways of trying to kind of stop, you know, gaps and so forth. So.


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[Assistant] Um, as he gets more comfortable and they develop chemistry, there's more of the defense. Like you thought, okay, the defense is good. We have to worry about them. You know, let's, let's talk about the offense because largely the defensive personnel is the same with the exception of Randy Gregory.


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[Assistant] Is maybe this defense not going to be as good as we thought they were going to be in a division where you really need them to be. No, I think it's a fair point.


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[Assistant] Who, I'm trying to think, who's like the most, who's the most desperate team in the NFL going into week two?


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[Assistant] Oh, I mean, I would say Carolina's desperately because their head coach is in a position where, you know, you lose on a last minute field goal to the Browns with a backup.


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[Assistant] Uhm, needs to win, uh, otherwise you might not be around anymore. So I, I think not only for Matt Ruhl, but it's probably for Baker Mayfield too. Uhm, with all the talk and everything else and.


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[Assistant] Nothing really coming from that. So that's the team that I feel like for those reasons, just with the quarterback head coach, which always seems to be the headlines.


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[Assistant] It was on the front page of the uhm, one of the, one of the news publications out there.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know what people say, like the Giants went for two on the road, beat a team in the Tennessee Titans that people view as potentially a playoff team, uhm, and you couldn't even come in.


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[Assistant] You know, close to covering a spread versus the Baltimore Ravens, so.


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[Assistant] I'm sure people who continually mock and say the Jets won't do anything. Well, I mean, the Jets haven't done anything in a long time. Well, they haven't and look, they don't have the starting quarterback in. They have a really rough slate for the first, what, nine games.


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[Assistant] And I'm not sure anyone's like, I mean, it's not that they're down on him. It's just, you know, it wasn't really that close, maybe the first half and then Baltimore pulled away and the rest is history. So that tells me that Robert Stalin feels like his seat's a little toasty.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know if it is or isn't and I think that's the interesting thing about it is like, I think they will turn the corner if he's given enough time. What was interesting was it was so out of character for Robert Sala because he was like this poised,


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[Assistant] Cool, calm, demeanor type coach that usually doesn't pay too much attention to things that don't matter, like what the media thinks after week one, right?


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[Assistant] And that was what was interesting is like, he felt the need to come out and make that statement and you're going, all right, like the bottom three or five storyline of the entire, like no one was really even talking about the jets.


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[Assistant] I don't even drink milk anymore. I used to drink a gallon a day, but now I barely even drink milk. Did you, would you have trouble like using the bathroom if you're drinking a gallon of milk a day?


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[Assistant] No, what is with people having issues with like lactose now and getting at the older ages? Like I hear this all the time. I'll go crush a milkshake like on the regular whenever I want. I have zero issues. Is this like a thing now? Like older people can't drink milk? No, just cheese and milk. It clogs you up.


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[Assistant] Not me, I've never had it. Maybe you're just a perfect human specimen. I'm not saying that. I mean, aren't you?


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[Assistant] No, but I'm saying like, milk's never been one of those things that I've thought like, oh yeah, all that dairy is just gonna tear someone up. No, no, no, not tear you up. It backs you up. So it constipates you? Yes, yes, yes. That doesn't make any sense to me.


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[Assistant] I remember, uhm, I forget we were doing TV somewhere and they like didn't have many snacks. We might have been in LA when we were doing this. And I had a fiber one bar. I was like, God, these fiber one bars are so good. Like that's all they had though, right? Like I think it was during COVID. So we were out, you know, doing TV.


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[Assistant] I was like, oh god, that was a lot of fiber. I had like a fourth one later on in the day because I'm a glutton for punishment. I was starving. I didn't really eat anything all day. And it was like, okay, now I see.


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[Assistant] Why they're calling him Fiber One. Let's see what's happening here.


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[Assistant] Uh, Molly P in the comments says, you guys do know this is being recorded and live on YouTube, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care. We try to get open book here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we are, we are a wide open book here at the Brady Quinn Football Show.


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[Assistant] Fewest points ever scored by an MVP in week one after he won the award with three.


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[Assistant] I mean, total MVP, because I remember, I think we talked about this before, like, Brett Farms ended three years in a row, but he shared the third one with Barry Sanders, which, like, if you actually go back and look, like, I think Barry Sanders won, like, every other player of the year award. It was kind of like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I guess what I'm going to get to is, should we be worried about the Packers offense? Because last year when they bounced back, they had Devonte Adams. Aaron Jones, by the way, three receiving touchdowns last year in week two. Devonte Adams had like 150 yards. What's your concern level?


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[Assistant] With the Packers offense moving forward, knowing that, I mean, you know, and seeing that there's just not, there isn't really a true wide receiver one or maybe even a candidate for one.


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[Assistant] The Christian Watson dropped for what would have been a touchdown, right? Walk-in touchdown. Walk-in touchdown, right? The hard report is getting past a defense like that. Well, he's got that down. Now it's just about catching a ball that literally just fell in your lap that you somehow dropped, right? Couldn't have been a better friend of football. No.


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[Assistant] You, you could have sent a blind man down the field, and he could have literally just been like, alright, put your hands out now, and he would have caught it, right?


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[Assistant] My concern isn't so much with the wide receivers, I think that'll come along. They didn't have Alan Lazard, but it's more about like Bakhtiari and Elgin Jenkins not being there. Like I think, like what's up with Bakhtiari not being out there?


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[Assistant] Really struggled to stay healthy now. I feel like those guys getting back.


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[Assistant] Help solidify some things better in the run game, a little better protection, uh, but it'll come around, like it'll come along. We've, we've seen this throughout in Roger's career, maybe not as an MVP dealing with the change of wide receiver, but.


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[Assistant] We talked about this from, from Jennings to, uh, Jordy Nelson and Jordy Nelson to, um, you know, Devonte Adams or James Jones or whoever else we get thrown in the conversation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they, they, they do a good job of that. I thought the Vikings though, although I mean, you know, aside the Roger story is the, is the bigger headline because they show us. He's like 500 against the Vikings. I want, I want to say over like the course of at least once Zimmer was there, but.


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[Assistant] A good portion of his career, like, they've been competitive games. It's not overly surprising that, you know, that was a game that you saw them, the Vikings win.


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[Assistant] Uh, I can't, I just did career sports. But I mean, I think you're, well, I mean, 16-11-1 is like, I mean, he's 22 and five against the Bears. I mean. Right. Right. Like which that's one that you just go, okay, like blindly lay the points with the green Bay anytime. We're not just playing the Bears. Yeah, absolutely. Um.


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[Assistant] Alright, I want to ask you about the Vikings offense, but first, let's take a break. We'll take a break when we come back. We'll talk about the Vikings offense next.


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[Assistant] So Minnesota, again, like, you know, the Rodgers and the Packers was a big storyline, but I mean, Minnesota looked awesome. Yeah. Is this, uh, is, is Kevin O'Connell the, uh, like the, the secret sauce, like the Ram steak now and the, and the Vikings are great because of Kevin O'Connell. That's some people like floating that theory out there.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, the Rams ran into a buzz saw that was the Buffalo Bills. I don't believe that, dude. I'm just telling you that some people. It only took like Kansas City playing one game. People were like, Oh, Kansas City. They're going to go back to super. I was like, wait, did you guys forget like Buffalo played Thursday night? They look pretty, pretty darn good.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, here's what I think it is. I think Kevin O'Connell brings in an offense that really suits the... By the way, Devo is the great producer that he is. Looked out the last six years for Rodgers and the Vikings. Yep. Five, six, and one. There you go. Uhm, so, back to O'Connell.


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[Assistant] I think he's a better fit for what Kirk Cousins does offensively and it helps to have that guy who's calling the plays, uh, be your head coach and be a fan of you, right? I don't know that Mike Zimmer was ever a fan really of.


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[Assistant] So uhm, to have the guy who, you know, I think as Mike Holmgren told me one time, uh, as he had a conversation with Brett Favre, that like, look, either this is gonna work or it's not. Either we're gonna be holding a Lombardi together or we're gonna be sitting out next to the dumpsters, dumpsters together. Like you're the two guys that ultimately are gonna make this thing go and receive all the, you know, all the credit.


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[Assistant] I think that's a portion of it. Uhm, I haven't like dove into their offense quite as much as I will here calling a game in a couple weeks. Uh, I do know this and talking to some of the staff there.


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[Assistant] They just feel like it's better suited for what Cousins does, uhm, not only for, you know, the boots, the move of the pocket, but also how they work through his reads, progressions, and really set things up, uh, for Justin Jefferson, which clearly in that game, uhm, they took advantage of the fact that if Jerry Alexander's not gonna travel with Justin Jefferson, like, they're, they're gonna find ways of getting him touches and getting him the football.


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[Assistant] Uh, which you think any, any offense will do that with their best wide receiver. So.


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[Assistant] The, the, the defensive posi- you know, uh, scheme too is- has largely changed to-


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[Assistant] Something where I think you're gonna see, it fits their personnel better. You know, Harrison Smith isn't running around trying to disguise.


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[Assistant] Forever, he's able to kind of play more flat-footed and pattern match.


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[Assistant] Uh, read the eyes of the quarterback and he's not like running to get back into position to then figure out what the heck's going on. Like he, I think he's in a better position to succeed. Uh, Daniel Hunter is in a better position to succeed, uh, give him the technique and what they're asking him to do upfront. So it's just all around. I think it's a better fit for their personnel and what they're looking at trying to do.


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[Assistant] By the way, Jair Alexander was asked about it and said the game plan was to not allow 18 to beat us. Why I wasn't on him, that's not my call. Anybody watch me play, you know that's what I want.


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[Assistant] Even if it's out of character for what you do schematically, I just think it makes way too much sense when you have a guy who, in my opinion with Justin Jefferson's, arguably the best receiver in the game right now, uh, arguably the best cornerback.


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[Assistant] Right, and so you find ways of, of mashing them up and just putting them on an island. And then you dare and you say, is Kirk Cousins gonna throw his way?


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[Assistant] There's times when you are and there's times when you're not. It kind of depends on your comfort level and confidence in that receiver and certain routes, you know, getting open. So it's all just a matter of how it works out. I mean, if you go back and watch through like the Dallas Cowboys game,


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[Assistant] And Tampa Bay, like I thought one of the most underestimated things was how they took away CDLAM and really forced gas to go elsewhere. And one of the things that they did was the way they undercut a lot of the routes or played a trail technique.


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[Assistant] And one of the things you hate about that as a quarterback is, Cedric Williams is not the guy that's gonna be like a burner, that's just gonna beat you straight line speed down, down field. Now they will do that every once in a while, but not that often. He's short, intermediate route, get the ball in his hands, let him run.


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[Assistant] Well, it's really uncomfortable for a quarterback if they're playing press or if they're playing even like a cover two trail technique where they're going to jam him and look to reroute and then just try to slide underneath them and kind of follow him.


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[Assistant] It's tough because as a quarterback you kind of feel that and you really feel uncomfortable throwing any outbreak around for sure.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, there's, there's different things you can do like that, that I think disrupt how quarterbacks feel. And, uh, that obviously wasn't the game plan for Green Bay versus Justin Jefferson, but it would be something that I think you try to look at and apply next time around when you play them.


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[Assistant] Well, I think I was going to ask you about the Cowboys anyway next, so that's a great accidental segue by you. That shows what a true pro you are. Uhm, like even if Dak was healthy, the Cowboys don't look like a good team. Like they sort of...


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[Assistant] Much more difficult opponent in the, in the bills. Like I, like I, I don't, I don't take away that, oh, the Rams are screwed. It's just, I do take away, all right, they have some line issues and they need some more depth at wide receiver. And the same thing with the Cowboys, like they can, you can complain about the DAC injury or you want, but even before the injury, it was very clear that the Cowboys had massive issues at certain positions that just aren't going to fix themselves. Like you can't,


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[Assistant] Just hope that your wide receiver core gets better. You know, like Jalen Tolbert can, you know, you'd love for him to develop and he wouldn't even active. Right.


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[Assistant] I think that's more of the problem is, uh, if you look at, you know, the


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[Assistant] The roster, how it's comprised right now, they don't have that guy that can really take the top off of defense and scare them. I mean, you might say, well, it could be Michael Gallup.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, it didn't seem like he was that effective. You know, Mario Cooper was that guy. He traded him away. And C.D. Lamb is like one of those kind of possession receivers that I think he's great at getting separation at top routes and all that. But if he beats a guy off the line, he doesn't have the same type of speed to ultimately


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[Assistant] But he's also not the type of guy you're going to put out there. He's tiny and he's kind of had a hard time catching on since he, since he really, um, has been playing professional football now.


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[Assistant] Like that's more the type of speed you're looking for, like breakaway speed, it's not that.


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[Assistant] So there's just, there's just no compliment. I mean, unless it's Dalton Schultz or, you know, you get in a bunch of two back sets where you've got Zeke and Tony Pollard in the backfield. Then maybe you give a defense more to think about, but I just think it's tough sledding, you know, with the way, even if you move CD Lamb around, if you go watch that game, they did.


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[Assistant] From, from having a guy still, if they're dropping into zone coverage, you know, shade to the way where CD-LAM is or they're playing man and you've got a free safety who's probably shaded to that side or probably has his eyes on CD-LAM knowing


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[Assistant] But I was wondering, have you, with the DAC thing, have you ever, did you ever deal with any kind of injury on the joint of your throwing hand?


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[Assistant] But uhm, I mean look, I've heard my thumb before where it made it difficult to grip the football.


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[Assistant] And so the four week time window that Mary Jones is tossing out, I mean, it's, if it's fractured, if it's truly fractured, I mean, bones usually don't heal until six weeks. Now they have these, these bone stimulator things that are helped to expedite the process of the bone healing.


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[Assistant] But even then there could be some pain. You obviously had surgery. It's gonna feel different with the surgery. I don't care what anyone tells you. When you put in screws or a plate or however they went about, uhm, stabilizing that joint.


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[Assistant] You're gonna kill some nerves. You're literally, your thumb's gonna feel different, it's gonna feel different, you're gripping the football.


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[Assistant] And so if he comes back after four weeks or whatever timetable Jerry threw out there, I just think you're going to see yourself in a similar position to Russell Wilson last year. He's not capable of, and it's going to look funky for three or four weeks. And I think it's hard to swallow that considering how bad they looked versus Tampa. I know a good credit to Tampa. They're a great defense.


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[Assistant] I mean, going into, you know, the, the, you know, midpoint of your schedule where it's trying to make or break, like I think they're just, they won't admit they made a mistake by not having an insurance policy at a backup quarterback. And maybe they've tried to call around and like the price is just too high for some of the guys are looking for.


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[Assistant] Alright, so Dak Prescott, before Mike McCarthy got there, never missed a game in his career.


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[Assistant] Now he's now missed, he's now going to miss like two big chunks of two or three seasons with Mike McCarthy as the head coach. I'm not suggesting that Mike McCarthy is the reason he's getting hurt, but I do think there's something to the fact that


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[Assistant] The, he got hurt trying to mount a furious comeback, right? Against the Giants, I believe. And they were, they were trailing because the coaching and the offense wasn't, wasn't working very well. And then again, they were in a situation where he was having to throw late in a game against Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Because you scored three points. Do you, do you, is there any justification for, uh, for suggesting that Mike McCarthy shoulders a little bit of the blame for DAC dealing with these, these medical issues?


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[Assistant] So it's an interesting question that you bring up, and I guess I'll do this. Uhm, I mean, Aaron Rodgers suffered some seasons where he didn't make it through.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I mean, it's, it's, it's kind of interesting. It's something to look at, right? Uh, I know it was a 2017, I believe, uh, Aaron Rodgers missed a good portion of the season. I think 2013 too. Um, I, I know for sure, obviously Mike McCarthy was the head coach at that point. I think he played seven games, 2013. He played nine games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting theory. I'd have to kind of come back through it more.


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[Assistant] I think the reality is the offensive line for the Dallas Cowboys has just gone downhill. Uh, and it's, it's not a knock, but you've got a rookie left tackle. That's not by design. Tyron Smith is obviously supposed to be there. He's not. Um, you know, Zach Martin is a guy who's the best offensive lineman they have, but he's like,


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[Assistant] The best one is still there at this point in time. Conor McGovern, you know, got hurt. He's taken out of it now. So there's just, there's a lot of issues that I think, um, you know, whether when you move on from some of those older players who have been mainstays there,


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[Assistant] Those are like the, the glue guys, you know, that you never seem to appreciate quite enough. And I think that happens every year in the NFL, regardless of what your, you know, the, the stars of your roster, you have those glue guys that end up moving somewhere else or retiring.


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[Assistant] Uh, and they, and they kill it. Like, they, they put you in this sort of position right now. So, I think it's more, like, people make a big deal about that with Zeke. Like, oh, Zeke's lost a step and all that.


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[Assistant] No, their offensive line isn't as dominant as it used to be. When you watch those games, you still see him with some of that burst in the vision and all that, but the difference is, is he's not making that first cut down the field. He's making that first cut sometimes behind the line of scrimmage or athletic.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's why Jerry Jones probably shoulders some blame too on the Dak Prescott thing because it's like, you know, and like Travis Smith had played a really good game in filling in for Tyron Smith.


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[Assistant] As a whole, but Tyler. Tyler, not Travis, sorry. Yeah, but when you have to move Tyler Smith from left guard to left tackle, you're making the left guard position weaker.


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[Assistant] And when you don't have that depth of the offensive line, you don't have that talent, it's, it's going to cause Dak Prescott to get more pressure on. And I believe the play in question Tyler Smith got.


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[Assistant] Got beat and that's where Dak gets his hand on the helmet. I mean, that's like.


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[Assistant] You know, you can just, you can call it a fluke accident, a freak accident, whatever it is, but there is like a reason why Dak was in a position to have that happen to his hand, and it's a result of the offense not working and the offensive line not blocking pretty well. Right. No, it's all part of it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'd be curious too, just to go back and look at how many seven man protections they use as opposed to, you know, five and six man protections. Um, it's just a hunch and it's, it's literally on the kind of top of my head. I don't know if there's any validity to it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but that's also another thing to look at is like how often are they actually keeping Dalton Schultz in, uhm, to pass pro along with the running back as opposed to letting that guy release out. So, I mean, one, you've, you know, you're not going to have that extra body in there to help out potentially attack or just the offensive line in the way they're going to slide.


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[Assistant] Uh, but potentially formationally, however, they're, however, they're splitting them out, you know, maybe he's not there to make it a harder rush, you know, for the edge defending. It doesn't have to be chipping. It's just, you know, when you think about how you're getting the ball in two and a half seconds, usually maybe three.


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[Assistant] You know, if you could just make it a wider path. And so if that guy's playing in a nine technique, if you're then a stand up, you know, tight end, who splits out a little bit and you force him, you just don't give a sweet shot to the quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well even just, it's just a longer distance, takes him more time, so maybe he's not getting there, uh, before that ball is like, you know, let go.


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[Assistant] Gotcha. Uh, that's an interesting point. Uh, that is definitely worth watching. To the, uh, Patriots offense.


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[Assistant] Okay, good, good response. That is, that is all we do. I mean, what is, what's going on here?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean, it's hard because, you know, again, we assume it's Matt Patricia, right? I think on the plays, uhm, could be Joe Judge, like it could be a combination, I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it could be Bill Belichick. It might be, uh, uh, Matt Freeman was on the podcast with me pointed out that I'd forgotten this, um, Belichick called plays in Cleveland for two years. Yeah. Yeah. Um.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I'm not sure what to make of it. I think, I think the one thing is, personnel wise, I thought...


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[Assistant] They would be better suited on offense, uhm, to, to find some big plays, but I just think they're having a hard time finding a rhythm. Like, like I said, I said this and I don't know.


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[Assistant] It probably was on radio, uh, not, not on doing this with you, but the hardest thing about becoming a play caller for someone like Matt Patricia or whoever's doing it, Joe Judge, because I assume it's one of those two. I'm assuming it's not Belichick.


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[Assistant] Is you gotta find your identity. And even if you are a veteran play call, you have to find the identity of that team each year. Like what your strengths and weaknesses are. And that's why if you listen to Bill Belichick, he'll say the first four games of the season are usually like still the preseason. Yes. In part because they're still figuring out like what they can execute in a real game scenario and what they could do.


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[Assistant] And I just think it's hard to figure that out if you can't figure out your personality and the type of play caller you are.


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[Assistant] And so that, that's even more complicated if you have multiple people who are involved with sometimes teams, uh, dissect like, and they'll say, Hey, you got thirds downs, you got red zone, you got first and second down. Like sometimes they do it that way. Pass game, run game coordinator. Like you'll hear these funky ways of how they do it.


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[Assistant] And I always feel like it's, it becomes difficult. You know, it's almost like working with a bipolar wife. You know, it's like, all right, what am I getting right now?


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[Assistant] Wasn't knives. I mean, what else would it have been? But it was like, it was like a bocce style setup we were playing.


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[Assistant] Yes, I know, that's like a thing. They have a place down in South Florida.


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[Assistant] Okay, so it was the, it was the underground bar with the, and we were like, it was like, it felt like you might have gotten like a serious like, and she's like, she definitely did it by accident, hypothetically. 100%.


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[Assistant] Okay, before, since it is Thursday, when people are listening, Chargers and Chiefs are playing on Thursday night. That's right. Let, um, lay the points, baby. Are the Chiefs, are the Chiefs back? Just kidding. The Chiefs never left.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's still Travis Kelce, like you just missed you still, all that.


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[Assistant] I, I just, I think they, um, I think they'll be just fine. I think they will be. And I think, you know, their defense has improved. The addition of Carl office helps. Uh, McDuffie's out though, right? Uh, which by the way, he looked phenomenal though. Like that was one of my biggest takeaways was.


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[Assistant] Welp, I mean, like, their identification of players who can come in and immediately impact their roster between Skymore, Karloftas, and McDelfie to that point.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean, they, they hit on all, it's just, it's unfortunate he's, he's now an IR, hopefully he comes back at some point in the season. Uh, but no, I think they'll be just fine. And I think it's, it's scary to think, like, I know we were going to try to hype up the Chargers and Justin Herbert, all that, but it's like, I've got to see someone else win this division. Yeah, I don't understand. By the way, the Chiefs are still plus 115 to win the division.


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[Assistant] Like, people tend to forget how successful of a run they had. Yeaah. I mean, they were essentially, if you really look at it, like statistically speaking, like win-losses, and Deebo could probably look this up, they were the close thing to the equivalent during that time of Brady and Belichick. Absolutely. They were, they were a borderline dynasty until


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[Assistant] Like until the whole Hawaii trip and everybody getting mad at each other.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which I'm still trying to figure out what's up. I mean, cause even Pete Carroll's saying stuff this week now, like all the former players coming back and they're happy, you know, Seattle got the win. I'm like, ah, okay, what's, what's happening?


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[Assistant] Yeah, now there's a rift between Russ and, um, Sherman and now there's a rift between Pete and Russ. It's very...


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[Assistant] But there's like something else there because all the former players are like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] You know, that they were not supportive of him, you know. Of Russ. They came back and they all raised the flag and all that stuff, so. Diva's a monster. Look at this.


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[Assistant] 2010 you can't factor that in. Right. Arthur Wilson wasn't drafted yet.


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[Assistant] But if you remove that, I mean, I actually think Seattle's winning percentage is probably up there next to New England's.


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[Assistant] I would assume since they also went to a Super Bowl, won quite a few as well.


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[Assistant] They won, uh, 24, whereas the Seahawks won just 14. So yeah, if you took those out, the Seahawks would leapfrog into second place and your theory would then be correct. Thank you. Yes, you're welcome. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Uh, but anyway, the whole point is, it's just kind of interesting that we, I don't think we ever gave Seattle the props they deserved.


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[Assistant] You know, cause it was like competitive with San Francisco at one point, and then obviously the Rams, especially when McVeigh got there. And rightfully so, they went to two Super Bowls and just won one.


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[Assistant] But there was like this, this kind of like, wait a second, like, are we just overlooking how good Seattle is consistently every single flipping year? They didn't, they didn't get the same respect as like this Peyton Breeze Saints, you know, who, who had three, seven to nine years in a row, but like also only won one Superbowl and only went to one.


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[Assistant] Right, right. Uhm, so that was kind of odd to me, but, and it was even more odd, the lack of a reception, which we don't need to get into, but just for the fan base, I was like, what are you doing? Pete Carroll didn't exchange any words with Russell on the field before.


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[Assistant] Like what I learned from Pete Carroll, the whole always compete and all that kind of stuff, all that stuff is great.


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[Assistant] But, but he's not afraid about like, he's not worried about burning a bridge. You know, like I told you the workout where he had Matt Ladder and I go out there and we're going throw for throw with one another. And as soon as I saw Matt, I was like, well, I mean, that was his coach in college, like clearly.


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[Assistant] Well, that, and then I was thinking like, well, Charlie would have never done that to me. Like, like Charlie Weiss, if Elsie was in that position, he would have been like, yeah, like he would either just would have not brought me out if he didn't think they were going to have a chance of signing me, or he wouldn't have brought Matt out in that case. We'd be like, no, you're my guy. Let's go.


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[Assistant] That was like one of those odd things where I'm like, after that experience, I'm like, yeah, I'm not surprised Pete Carroll didn't shake Russell Wilson's hand or could have given two craps about really anything when he came back in that place. AKA Pete Carroll is a savage, an underrated savage. All right. You gotta go through his gum. I mean, my God.


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[Assistant] Google that on the internet. There's a, uh, there's a gif of somebody put a top hat and a monocle and a cane with him as he's walking by. He's smacking his gum. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I've actually got that t-shirt. You know what worried me too, by the way? Cause I actually laid the points with Denver in that game. Um, and, and, and I ended up losing out on our picks to Pete, which seemed worse, but what made it worse was I immediately wanted to change my pick as soon as I saw Russell Wilson walking with a bow tie. It wasn't even the color of the suit. It was the bow tie. And I was like, Hmm, corn ball. It wasn't corn ball. It was just like, you know,


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[Assistant] It just didn't sit well. I was kind of like, this isn't a football guy. Like a football guy doesn't wear, and I know there's some guys who like, who have played football, even linebacker. I think it was a, but the honey Jones or something like that had like a bow tie company.


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[Assistant] I was just kind of never like, uh, that's not as savage as you need to be. And, and, how about the fact that he didn't bring a, he didn't bring a, like a, like, oh, we might lose, change of clothes. Like he had to wear that suit that the press got retapped for. Right, it was like several of those after the fact. You're like, oh, this isn't as funny anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, perfect. Uhm, alright, you gotta get out of here because you gotta go do stuff for CBS Sports HQ. Tell Prisco we said hello. Thanks as always Brady. These are these are my favorite hour of the week.


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[Assistant] What is that? Oh no. Guess who's way the bingles are sweet. So cool.


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[Assistant] So this is just quick. We gotta get Brady out in two minutes. So this was a quick stat. Okay, okay.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL podcast. It is if you are listening to the audio version of this Thursday, September 8th, which means we got some freaking football.


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[Assistant] If you're watching live on YouTube, it is Wednesday, September 7th. It's 8 o'clock at night. Now, there's good news, bad news of that. The bad news is...


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[Assistant] Manny Diaz is no longer at the University of Miami and uh, Mario Cristobal is way too serious for those, so.


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[Assistant] I did appreciate by the way that you texted me in the middle of NC State's meltdown on Saturday. You were like, David, Larry sucks.


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[Assistant] I did not say Devon Leary. No you didn't. He looked bad. He was very bad. I said this is not the NC State team that I thought was going to be a sleeper in the ACC this year. Defensively, even how Leary played, which look, it's the first, first game of the season that happens. And plus that was like the, uh, go to upset alert pick, right? Played that in Asheville, right? Uh, Greenville, Greenville. Greenville, excuse me. That's fine. You shouldn't, uh, podunk North Carolina. I have two questions. I actually have two questions for you from a schematic standpoint.


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[Assistant] You as a former professional quarterback, me is just, you know, one of the top film analysts in all of professional football media. Oh, quitter, which encompasses hundreds of thousands of people who are experts at everything.


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[Assistant] There could literally be like tens of us. I'm Dr. Fauci. Just, just ask me. I'll give you everything you want to know.


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[Assistant] It's kind of your hair, all one and the same. I love your laughter. It makes me think of Charlie Day, like I'm watching, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] It does. Now that I've told people that you said that, they won't stop pointing it out. Anywho.


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[Assistant] Oh, sorry. NC State runs this on defense, this 335, which, you know, something like give the college teams they're around. I don't know how much of the game you watch, but we're blitzing.


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[Assistant] Two guys consistently, I don't think we sacked, uh, hold nailers once. I sort of wonder with, I guess my question is with those blitzes, is that they're sending the blitzes to the wrong place or is it poorly timed against a quick step offense? Like what's, what's sort of the, the quarterback's thinking there from that standpoint?


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[Assistant] Well first off with a 335 configuration.


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[Assistant] It's really hard for quarterbacks in regards to the passing game for a number of reasons. The less people you have with their hand down on the ground means there's more potential chance of any one of variables of guys coming who don't have the hand in the dirt, right?


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[Assistant] So any three down look that goes forward, whether it's a 3-4 or a 3-3-5, right, if you're going to go ahead and play nickel out of something like that, play a big nickel or however you end up, you know, end up playing it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's traditionally one of the toughest things to do. From a protection standpoint, less guys handing the ground, less known rushers, right? So now we've got a greater variety of guys potentially gonna rush. Now.


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[Assistant] The one thing I'll say about a 335, because you can do different things with the, with the coverage and the way the safeties can kind of move or not move, and which guys you can decide to send or not, that obviously makes it a little bit more confusing. But.


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[Assistant] If you think about it, theoretically, and there's some teams I was with that they would basically say, look, if they bring five, that's not really.


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[Assistant] It's the same as like basically like one blitzer with a stator package, right? So we would define it as a pressure, which a pressure is different than a blitz. A blitz is when you would bring more than five, because if you bring more than five, that means I've got to actually use my tight end, my running back, throw hot, someone else as part of the protect. Like a cover zero situation.


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[Assistant] Sure, well not even a cover zero. All it's saying is, if it's anything over five, I have to use one of my eligible receivers, take them out from their passing route. And now I've got to put them in protection or I've got a free release them and make sure that blitzing guy now has to know, Hey, he's responsible for cover that guy. If he doesn't, I can throw a right to him. Right.


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[Assistant] So uhm, some teams will categorize, you know, pressures when you only bring five is just a pressure. It's not a blitz. It's, it's not something where you feel like you need to adjust your protection or you need to adjust and throw a hot route or side adjust, whatever the case is. Uhm, and so sometimes, especially if you've got some of these, you know, protections nowadays, like the old two jet, three jet. So that's a, that's a, that's a six man protection.


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[Assistant] You have the five offensive linemen and they would basically slide for.


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[Assistant] Um, and they would say they've got these three and then those two, cause those guys look like potential threats and the batch that's whoever else. And that was like two jet, three jet. It's like anything more than that. You just, you throw harder, you bring the tight end in or you just.


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[Assistant] So, you know, when you've got sometimes those protections that are like kinda simplified, like catch-alls, so it takes a lot of the pressure off a guy like Ehlers to, uhm, it's gonna be hard to hit home, right? Especially if you can see the rotation, like that's the one thing


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[Assistant] About when you play that kind of cover five look, it almost looks like an umbrella when you're watching it on film. You can kind of see where the guys are coming down. Rotating from, cause eventually like these guys have to rotate to replace where those guys are blitzing from. Like someone has to. So you kind of see a pattern developing, right? Like where it's like.


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[Assistant] These guys are coming down, you know, and they're blitzing, they're trying to hit like the interior gaps, which is kind of foolish. I come from the outside, right? Like come from the outside. You look, you're anticipating a pass, right? But you still have to keep your run gap integrity in the case there is a run, right? So there's still someone assigned to each gap. Cause if you throw two rushes in one gap, you know, you can have one big offensive lineman.


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[Assistant] But a lot of times when you see a three down look and you see teams that are trying to show like, um, Rex Ryan was really popular doing this when I got in the NFL in Baltimore, like he'd give you these walk around looks and you're like, shoot dude, there's like no one with their hand in the ground. How do we, how do we know who's Russian? Who's not?


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[Assistant] You know, in, in your mind, the offensive linemen are like, well, who the hell do I have? And so basically those games you'd go into it and we'd make like a Cinco call and then the offensive line would jelly set and we would know like these four guys we know are like the D linemen or the bigger bodies in the game out, you know, edge rushers.


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[Assistant] That's who we're accountable for. So that tackle guard, you know, guard center, they're all going to communicate across the line to pass all that stuff off. Cause no matter what they're doing walking around, eventually they have to pressure.


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[Assistant] And then the back would basically scan on each outside of it and the quarterback would know who he was responsible for. But you know, those became difficult because they would overload one side.


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[Assistant] And so basically, if, if they had a couple guys who were rushing this way, they'd try to bring like four on that side. And then so no matter what, you were going to be one short and you just had to recognize that faster than they could replace it with the coverage. And that was always the game of it is if you could recognize where the overload was coming from.


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[Assistant] Once you protect to the overload side, you had all this time and they had all these voids in the defense. And so what teams started doing is they would go to like a seven man protection. And even though you only had three guys out in the routes, they're not getting past the seven man protection. And so eventually that stuff kind of went away. That's why people don't do it as much anymore.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'd like to shift to a more serious topic if it's okay with you. That was a lot of serious football time.


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[Assistant] It really was. I was out of the gate. Like that's what like, I don't think it always gets buried in whatever we do these podcasts, but like I'll ask them like accidentally like good question and you'll like rip off this.


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[Assistant] I don't know, he was, he was talking about earlier today, I was working with him, Joe Burrow, not being, having enough weight on him. Oh, he thinks he looks frail and skinny. I was like, he's going to Pete Prisco diet then.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is such a loaded question because you really have to go through the history. You do realize that the Brady Quinn football shows the preeminent build a football podcast on the entire internet.


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[Assistant] I'm good. I'm glad we brought this to light before anyone else did. I mean.


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[Assistant] Somebody, somebody needs to be doing the hard work. I mean, the irony is the fact that like we brought it up and made it like more popular. Although Tom Brady, cause I believe that was a Patriots game, was on the field.


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[Assistant] I believe that was a Patriots game against the Bills in Buffalo when that build-o was launched. It was, it was Mack, it was last year, I think, where like, uh, it's Kendrick Bourne is looking down. He's like, I think that's before, I think it predates Mack Jones, dude.


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[Assistant] Well, I was Googling this earlier. There's an article that says where you're Googling about bill does.


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[Assistant] Bill's fans set new record for sex toys on the field.


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[Assistant] And then like what constitute, I mean, I think we know what a build up is, but like once you start straying outside of that, we started going to other stuff. Like you just book a world records guy sitting there going.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that just looks like it could be used as a lube, but it's actually used, you know, for, for the player to help get their pants on. It's, it's a, it's actually petroleum jellies. So like a tube of KY jelly on the field, expect that, expect that an account bills. This is serious business. Um,


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[Assistant] So if this, if you really want to go back and research this, I did.


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[Assistant] An LA team, now granted they're in San Diego when this occurred I believe, but they've had issues with their security guards, alright.


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[Assistant] Oh, this is bad. This is bad. I was like playing pocket pool and right in front of the cheerleaders. Okay, I don't, okay. He was pocket pool. That was actually impressive or straight by you.


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[Assistant] Whatever treasure they're going after. You know, uh, you've seen Zoolander, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, how freaking weird do you have to be to think, I know, I'm just going to do this in the middle of an NFL game while I'm staying. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.


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[Assistant] How many times have you actually looked at a security guard at a live event? Uh, I mean.


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[Assistant] That's, it's like when you're, when you're like playing in a game, you're like, oh yeah, the officials are down there, like on the field with you, but you never really feel them, right? Like you're playing, but you don't really like notice them.


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[Assistant] So what you're suggesting is that this was, that Chargers security guard that wasn't his first, uh, interview into the world. No, that's just the first one that got taped. Like you're going to be doing this for years. It needs to be a 30 for 30 on that.


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[Assistant] Well, but to my point, if this is the source security that we're hiring at SoFi.


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[Assistant] Maybe you're seeing a few more toys tossed on there because we've got some security guards that are a little distracted, you know? I think you're onto something like...


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[Assistant] This could extend into the highest reaches of our government. Not as big as some of those build-os that are thrown out there.


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[Assistant] It is this is again, this is why this is the best show we do is like we do we go from like a like a comprehensive breakdown of the 335 defense and like a college football team is running straight into a comprehensive breakdown of


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[Assistant] Whatever just happened. Um, who's your Super Bowl match? Who are you picking? Do you, do you give a Super Bowl pick? Yeah, we actually just did this today. So a couple of funny anecdotes, which like one we have to get after Prisco for, but I went very chalky. I went with the Chiefs and I went with the Packers. I don't think the Chiefs are chalky.


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[Assistant] He goes to Bill's Packers, I go with Casey Packers. Alright, whatever. Part of it's like, I want to see Aaron win another one. Like I really do. Um, obviously know him a little bit, like want that for him. Uh, cause I know how much it like means to him, but also I just think with the changes that they've gone through and all that, it's like, it'd be kind of a cool way if, if this is his last season or if he's got one more and whatever to go on his way out. I have a football question related to the Packers. Um,


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[Assistant] For the Packers this year and he and AJ Dillon will basically be on the field like 80% of the time together and they're going to move him around the formation.


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[Assistant] To make matchups difficult for defenses. Pete told me that's a stupid thing. You're just looking for clicks. Uhm, I don't know why he said that, but.


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[Assistant] Do you, what do you think the Packers offense looks like? Clearly they're trying to dial it back a little bit, run more, more defense. But I feel like there's no way.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers trusts these young receivers. Aaron Jones is going to be used as a receiver.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, this is Aaron Rodgers. Like he's one of the better deep ball throwers. Like that you'd be, you'd be cheating yourself if you weren't trying to stretch the field vertically with the speed of Christian Watson or Romeo Dobbs or whoever. Um, you know, whether it's Alan Lazard or whoever throwing the conversation. So.


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[Assistant] Look, I think they're going to try to rely more on the run game maybe in the past and be a little more balanced, but...


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[Assistant] I think that, that, uhm, that chemistry is going to develop. I don't know with who, but it's going to develop when someone displays. Now, I think Baby's already got that with Alan Lazard. He's been with him for a while now. He clearly has that with Randall Cobb. Uhm, you know, it depends on, you know, if you look at Robert Tanyan too, falls in that category.


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[Assistant] Because it's fading, the people are like, oh, Tyreek Hill got traded, Tavante Abbs got traded. These offenses won't be good. It's like, this is stupidest take I've heard anyone suggest.


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[Assistant] Nah, I'm just gonna say they're better without those guys, but those offenses will be fine.


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[Assistant] Well, I think in the case, and we'll go to Kansas City, but in the case of the Packers,


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[Assistant] Like you've seen his transition from, you know, Greg Jennings to Jordan Nelson to Devontae Adams. Like they've gone through this before. This isn't the first time and they've been fine. Like he's been successful. He's, you know, he's been able to be the back to back MVP. Like they'll figure it out.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so, so, and look, the Green Bay Packers defense is much improved. You know, when you look at the fact up front, at least, I mean, getting back Preston Smith, you know, your draft guy in Quay Walker, Rashad Garry is there now. Cheryl Alexander is one of the best cover corners in the NFL. I mean, it's just, they're stacked. There's no... Rashad Garry, I was wrong about. He's, he is fantastic.


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[Assistant] He is. No, and look, I think, you know, you, some of those Michigan guys, they're not quite in the right fit. And, and, and then they, the NFL and they, they explode, right? Like, uhm, there's, like, uhm, Pete's really high on Nico Collins. He thinks he's gonna have a breakout year. Uhm, you know, we had heard that about the, uhm, the receiver in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Uhm, his name's escaping me at the moment now, but uhm, from uhm, from Michigan.


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[Assistant] Not Braylon Edwards, obviously. No, no, no, no, no, no. I play with Braylon.


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[Assistant] That I think is the best defense they've had since they went to the last Super Bowl and won it.


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[Assistant] And I think you've got now this offense that's a little harder to predict what they're going to do, right?


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[Assistant] It's pretty easy to know when they're going to go to Davos Adams because he was really their number one receiver by far. Different story. And that relates to me to Kansas City.


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[Assistant] You know, you've got Travis Kelsey, sure, but you've got Sky Bor, you've got Marques Valdes-Scanling, you've got, uh, Juju Smith-Schuster, you've got Mikko Harbin, who, by the way, I don't know if you heard the story, you know, Pete tried to tell us


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[Assistant] Well, it's me and Chris Hassel and I'm, and maybe I try to think, Oh, Jonathan Jones. And I'm sitting there. I'm like.


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[Assistant] Like what do you mean? And then I was like, are you sure like this isn't like this people who call you Pete trying to get your social security number?


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[Assistant] I'm texting this thread with Prisco on it right now to harass him because he's very harassable.


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[Assistant] He will try to deny it, and Chris Ass will test to it, uh, Jonathan Jones will test to it. Anyway, uhm, uhm, I like, I like, your bull picks by the way. What's that?


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[Assistant] Those are my two Super Bowl picks. I'm hoping the Packers win it, uh, for A-Rod. So Pete picks Bill's Packers, which brings me back to this point, which is always fun to needle Pete for this.


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[Assistant] And I picked Joe Burrow as my MVP, so I think he'll be MVP this year.


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[Assistant] But Pete claimed, and he said this the night Joe Burrow was taken number one overall by the Bengals, they would win two Super Bowls. He said multiple Super Bowls in the next 10 years. So we're now heading into year eight of that.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's going to be the MVP. I'm like, I'm picking him to be the MVP. And meanwhile, not only are you not picking them to be the MVP, you're not picking them to win the Superbowl. I'm like, so now you got seven years to work with. Like, when is this going to come together, Pete? This is, this is great. This is a great, because this is classic Pete. He's like a flip flopper who tries to like, he like,


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[Assistant] And then like at the same time, it's like, well Pete, I just looked at your power rankings and your Super Bowl picks and your claims for the draft. And you basically canvassed the entire AFC.


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[Assistant] So like, do you have a take or are you just secretly a little waffle iron who won't jump in and actually give some input?


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[Assistant] He's not here to defend himself, so he shouldn't do that. But uhm, it was hilarious. It is hilarious. Can I try to guess? Yeah, absolutely.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. So I'm actually, I'm big on KC this year.


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, uhm, so, but outside the box, like team going, right? Do you want me to give you a hint? Yeah, could you?


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[Assistant] This would be the first ever all bird mascot in Super matchup in Super Bowl history. Oh.


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[Assistant] Okay. I mean, that's not that outlandish. Like I was actually thinking today when they were asking, like, obviously I think the Ravens are going to win the division. And I do think like,


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[Assistant] The, the Joe Flacco bet on myself type thing if Lamar doesn't get a deal done.


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[Assistant] I mean, but like, and the best part is they opened the season against Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Is that a good thing for the jets by the way? Cause I kind of feel like you're like, no, but I'm like, yes.


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[Assistant] Cause you've got a guy who I think will do a better job. Against that defensive ball. Defense, I mean Seymour, and I think that's a better roster than what it was, right? Like no one's going to deny that. Like my whole thing with the Jets was the fact that their schedule and then seeing that Zach Wilson played poorly, by the way, in the, in the little preseason that we saw.


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[Assistant] And the most hilarious thing is like Dan Orlowski came out like three weeks later and said the exact same thing. And I'm like, I wonder if he's going to receive a bunch of flack from jets fans for making this claim. But did you get, did you get, did you catch crap from jets fans?


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[Assistant] Because our radio, our radio show with Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington, they brought it to my attention. Because like I said, I don't mean this to sound like a pompous a-hole.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be a guy we're gonna be talking about in two years from now. What, 2024 or 2025 draft? Whatever, whatever that would be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Lashner's now champs him now. So anyway, get off of the tangent.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, I'm usually watching film being a dork and a geek and looking at all that. You, you don't, you don't read your mentions on Twitter. No, you're an old school guy. You don't.


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[Assistant] You don't, uh, you refuse to use the little emojis on text. You won't, you won't. I use voice notes. You use voice notes and you like to, you like to say, like you like to say, ooh, we should get, you like to say, okay.


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[Assistant] Go ahead and say your portion of it. You're the one that I was like, yeah, we're going to take a break and we come back. Brady and I will discuss whether it's acceptable to send. Okay.


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[Assistant] So when Debo produces, we don't actually have commercials. If, if not, it was producing, you would get a South park commercial just now.


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[Assistant] Maybe somebody, whoever would in the past, I enjoyed the commercials. It feels like a real break. Anywho, um, so if you like, I feel like if I send like, so I was like, here's a, this is going to happen. And if I reply with okay,


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[Assistant] That's perfectly fine. I'm saying it is in fact, okay.


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[Assistant] However, for some reason, some people take umbrage and offense. It's like, oh, are you pissed off? It's like, what are you talking about? I said, okay. It's like, well, clearly you're on. They're reading tone through text.


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[Assistant] Right. But it's, it's, it's reading someone else's implied tone.


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[Assistant] Right. Which is why I'm saying I like leaving voice notes. Because it's a little more personable.


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[Assistant] And people wouldn't hear your tone or your excitement or if you are like, okay, you know, like it's like, no, I was like, okay, awesome. Cool. Great. Okay. Sounds good. I was like, well, you were like eight PM. I was like, thumbs up. You're like, okay. Cause you just won't give a thumbs up. I will say when line, it was on that FFT stream.


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[Assistant] You know, I was thinking, and like, I know like something's coming where like, I'm gonna end up listening to this whole thing, and at the end I'm getting dunked on for no reason, and then I'm like,


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[Assistant] With that suspense, man. It's an experience. Every voice knows difference. Unique. You know, you gotta- It disappears. Draw it out, you gotta take people on a journey, and then bring it full circle. What? Man.


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[Assistant] The energy of this BQFBS is, is, is fantastic. Um, all right. So salty is Twitter fan bases. Uh, actually I want to, I want to actually this too. So I want an HQ, um, like three weeks ago. And I said that I thought.


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[Assistant] It was like Noah or somebody was like, give me, give us five possible upsets for week one. Oh, let me look at this slate real quick.


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[Assistant] Well, I listed, I was like the Patriot, I listed like seven. I was like, you pick five. Right. The Patriots were one that I listed that he picked.


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[Assistant] And I, and I go on there and to be perfectly frank, it was like a Friday. Wasn't really a, you know.


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[Assistant] Formal feeling segment and I, you know, I throughout like, you know, Belichick is dominated against young quarterbacks. And I said.


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[Assistant] And I mean, I guess I don't really regret it at all. But I was like, there's been so much to a height coming out of Miami and that


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[Assistant] The media coverage of that particular organization is oftentimes more enthusiastic than other organizations for whatever reason.


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[Assistant] Well, the Miami Beat reporters picked up on that and are not happy with me.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, it is what it is. I could care less. Everyone thinks they're going to win a Superbowl heading into week one, right? At least you try to convince yourself of that.


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[Assistant] Here's, here's the five that I would pick. And like, I think these are pretty reasonable for the most part. For starters, Thursday night. I mean, the Rams, defending Super Bowl champs. McVeigh's never lost an opener. Uh, Super Bowl champs, this is the start of the new millennium, like 19 and 3, I think. New offensive coordinator for the Bills, so you're adjusting that a little bit?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, even though I love, I love Kandor. Yeaah, it could be a change. So they're giving two and a half points at home. So that's the first one, right? Cleveland to me, and it sounds a little crazy, and I actually picked the Panthers.


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[Assistant] But, you know, on the road, they know Baker, they're more talented, Ross, with the exception of the quarterback spot, like,


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[Assistant] I could see that game potentially being low-scoring tight, and, and Cleveland pulling away with it in the end.


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[Assistant] Well, I disagree. I actually think that's kind of that like sleeper seven seed type potential team. Oh, okay. I've okay.


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[Assistant] If McCaffrey's healthy, if Baker Mayfield's healthy, plays well, you brought in Loviska Chanel, you've already got some decent receivers, obviously DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, you addressed some of the offensive line, the defense is already good, I'm just saying, like, I think that team is, is gonna be better than people think.


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[Assistant] I've, I've over the last three weeks moved from this team is one of the bottom five teams in the NFL to they are a potential fringe playoff team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's where I'm at. Offensive line has to be totally healthy. It has to be good and pass pro.


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[Assistant] Chin, uh, Brian burns, Derek Brown, all kind of need to take a big ish step forward and the defense needs to be above.


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[Assistant] Basically, it's like a, it's a Jenga tower that could collapse at any moment, but could end up in a seven seed possibility. Correct. So the other game, Jacksonville. Yeah. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] I know. Jacksonville is winning that game. They're going to win that game at like 10 points.


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[Assistant] That's, that, that 450 goes a long way to that 3-0 record, just saying. Uh, that's, that's a very winnable one. And then the Lions. The Lions are the ones, like, I know you're high on the Eagles, but we see, like, surprises week one all the time where we're like, remember that? Remember that game week one? What the hell happened there? They were in, um, Philip Rivers lost in Jacksonville at week one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that's the other one that I'm looking at kind of saying, all right, I could see it. Pete thinks the Giants are going to go beat Tennessee outright in Tennessee. I don't see that. I could see the Seahawks covering versus Denver. I don't, I just don't see them winning that one. I think they're just going to win the game. Oh, I don't know. I don't know how.


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[Assistant] But, I think the Cowboys, even though Tom Brady, has he ever lost to Dallas? I think he's never lost to Dallas. Oh, that's a, I can tell you in a second.


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[Assistant] Maybe something like if I read any of our research notes that I would know, but uhm. We get so many. It's not your fault. It's not. It's really not your fault. I mean, you do a great job. No one's complaining.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no archipelago is just too much. It's like being fed with a fire hose every other day.


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[Assistant] I'm like, ooh, the, the farmer's insurance open round two notes. Oh, that's that. I can use that.


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[Assistant] That's gonna play really well and so I'll take two and a half points Dallas at home. So I, I was.


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[Assistant] It's like Baltimore at the chance. You don't feel really comfortable. I would probably say Cincy at home, but even that's a gamble, right? Like. Ovelyn and like if Trubisky plays well. Or even just like if, if. Joe Burrows fatter than Pete who knows. He's not fat at all. He like needs to be fat. He needs to have weight.


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[Assistant] Maybe the Colts, like honestly, versus the Texans, which that's the one like you can't feel comfortable about. Do you?


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm gonna find the answer to this. Okay, Baltimore. Baltimore would be my survivor pick. The Colts, I'm pretty sure haven't won a week one game since like 2016. But you know, I mean, it's a, so hold on, how many home dogs do we have? A lot.


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[Assistant] The last time the Colts, I'm already, okay, the last time the Colts won, uh, no, it's older. Oh my god, this is insane.


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[Assistant] Do we have 10 home and home dogs? The last time the Colts won a week one home, a week one game anywhere was 2013. Yeah. So they got off the slow start. It's all right. It's not like Cleveland's like that.


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[Assistant] You know what we should do Brady? We should parlay all the home dogs on the Moneyline. And then we never do this podcast again. And we just like booter our awesome place in Aruba.


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[Assistant] You have a hard time. Alright, so I've talked with Pete about this. I was like, Pete's like, okay, it's like if I hit the lottery, you know what I would do? I would start like Will Brinton football.com.


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[Assistant] And just make Pete's an exorbitant offer where he had to take it and come work for me and be like my number one NFL columnist. And I would work him to death. I would make him work so much. Like he couldn't turn it down and he couldn't quit because he signed this contract. I would be Pete. I need you to power rank.


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[Assistant] That's amazing. He's a character. He really is. You know, he once, uhm, was worried about getting in a fight in the publics. So you heard the story? No. He's, uh, he defended the, uhm, the, so the, you know, the deli counter, right?


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[Assistant] Some guy was like harassing the ladies behind the deli counter and Pete's like, hey, why don't you, why don't you like leave these ladies alone? And like yells at him. The guy's like, I will mess you up. So Pete is like, Oh God.


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[Assistant] So he goes to the salad dressing aisle and he grabs a glass bottle of salad dressing and as he's checking out he wraps it up like to use as a weapon in case he's the bagel guy.


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[Assistant] That's who he is. He's the bagel guy. He's the bagel guy. You remember that video?


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[Assistant] Not flattering. Uhm, I can't wait though. I think, I mean, honestly, every single game, I think there's an interesting storyline.


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[Assistant] And really, with as much movement as they had this offseason.


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[Assistant] Uhm, every single game, I think you can, you can look for something that's gonna be unique and different. But, uh, yeaah, I think Baltimore would be my survivor pick, by the way. Uhm, who has the worst roster in football?


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[Assistant] I think there's two obvious candidates. I mean, some people are gonna say the Bears.


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[Assistant] Falcons are definitely there too. Falcons are right there. I think the Texans have been improved. Texans are like very uhm.


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[Assistant] They're, they're trying to do that Belichick thing where you get a bunch of veterans and like the Seahawks outside of a few stars with like the DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and some others, like it's kind of another one where you go, like they were historically awful last year defensively. And if that group doesn't turn around, like, I don't care.


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[Assistant] You know, what you want to say about it? They're just, they're not the same group.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, but maybe they don't have to tank. Maybe they just have to be in striking distance and you, you know, get rid of the rest of your first round picks like they always do. I mean, but this one, they just get rid of all their picks then use them to take Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] I don't know who that is. One of the highest last year quarterback at Alabama. The only thing that Pete will knock him for a size. That's it. If you watch his footage, the kid is special. That's the only way you can describe him. It didn't you refer to it? Like, didn't you make a Russell Wilson comp? Yeah, that's that's exactly what, but he's actually a little taller than Russell is.


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[Assistant] Right, right, but like if you, if Pete, maybe that's the plan. If Pete Carroll is like, all right, we need young quarterback, mobile, makes plays, doesn't make turnovers in the, you know, shorter,


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[Assistant] Yeah. And they had like a moneyball thing going with the Legion of Boom 2 that is not available now because everybody's sort of on to...


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[Assistant] The body type of the defensive backs they wanted to have and etc, etc.


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[Assistant] I think I used up all my questions. Okay. You did a good job. Proud of you. No, not really. Are you? Give me your biggest.


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[Assistant] Like, this is why you're the best. I don't have to have all the questions. You've got questions. Well, no, I was thinking before we even came into this, like, who's your surprise team, like, of this, of the year? Like, who are you kind of like higher on that no one else is higher on that you think is going to actually do something? Because, because the Eagles, like you said, the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Okay, just, it just gets so many people are high on them, which I'm actually, it's the opposite. Like I don't want to say, like I love Nick Sirianni. I think it's a talented Ross or something. I just kind of look at last year and go, eh.


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[Assistant] Ball kind of bounced their way, like they kind of achieved that success earlier than I thought they were. And I feel like this is going to be one of those deals where like we underrate Ron Rivera, how good of a coach he is. I know Washington can seem like a mess.


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[Assistant] But I think Carson Wentz is an upgrade compared to the quarterback play they had last year. And they've gotten better too. I mean, I think of a healthy Chase Young, even though he's not starting off the season on that, that note.


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[Assistant] If he can be the player they're hoping is going to be, like, that's gonna be a tough team, man. As long as they can improve their past events, like...


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[Assistant] I don't know. I just, I kind of look at the commanders as a team that could surprise a lot of people. Uhm, you know, I don't know how you feel about Denver. I feel like everyone's kind of like Kansas City. And then you've got like, if people kind of forget about the Raiders when they have a charger, the favorite pick. And I'm like, dude, Vic Fangio said for three years, like we're a quarterback away.


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[Assistant] Why not them? You know, why can't Denver shock and surprise those people?


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[Assistant] So do you think, so I think Breach said this last, earlier this week, but do you think Denver's kind of flying under the radar? I feel like they're on my radar. The Chargers are the hype team in that division.


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[Assistant] Chargers are the hype, you know, like, like hasn't gotten it yet and it's like they are. I'm more like, okay, the two teams I feel best about are the Chiefs and the Broncos.


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[Assistant] Cause I think you could make the case they have the two best rosters, they have the two top quarterbacks. And that's not saying Justin Herbert won't be a Hall of Famer, won't win a Super Bowl or MVP and all that stuff. But like Russell's done already a lot of that. So I just kind of give them the benefit of the doubt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and look, it's no disrespect to Derek Carr. They can be phenomenal. Like, I have the utmost respect for Joshua Daniels. Like, it could be a game changer. It really could. I'm just kind of curious to see how it goes.


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[Assistant] See that's, that's sort of my logic for why I'm big with the Chiefs this year is that everyone's, I mean, this is like pretty much like a standard cultural phenomenon, right? It's like new shiny toy. Oh goodness. It's like, you know, Devonte Adams, uh, you know, uh, you know, uh, Chandler Jones.


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[Assistant] Josh McTangles. And you know, did the same thing we did with Russell Wilson. And meanwhile, the Chiefs were just like, look, we haven't


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[Assistant] Not made the AFC Championship game since we put Bachelor Homes in as a starter.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I do think Diver is interesting. I mean, my surprise team I think is the Jaguars. Oh god.


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[Assistant] Wow, that is a very big turnaround. I picked him to win the division. Okay. I mean, what were the odds for that? Like plus 2000? Uh, no, nine to one. Oh,


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[Assistant] Bet the Jack bet Doug Peterson coach of the year at like 25 to one.


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[Assistant] Right. That's right. Because if they win the division. They're going to be my coach of the year. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I can say that. People, people are just out on Trevor Lawrence and that's crazy to me. Like he's good. He is good. He's super talented. I do think in like breaking down some of his tape and watching him.


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[Assistant] You know, one of the things that when he's like, you're kind of like a taller, like longer legged guy, longer striding guy.


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[Assistant] Sometimes it's a hard adjustment to the NFL when you're on teams that don't have a great offensive space. Yeaah, that's a good point. Well, you just, you need a little more space to operate. You know, some of these guys who kind of sit back, some of these gunslingers who have to kind of whip, right? Like the Patrick Mahomes, uhm, whoever you want to throw into that category, you know, even Stafford can do a lot of that too.


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[Assistant] A lot of times, be able to navigate the pocket better, have more success.


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[Assistant] You know better than I do, but it's like you watching like the subtle like.


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[Assistant] No, he's like a, he's like a boxer. It's like watching like a very like smooth boxer just navigate the ring. You don't really notice that they're kind of controlling and moving against their body. And then just boom, knock someone out. Uhm, but okay, my bold prediction for the season is all 14 from the AFC Westnake playoffs because


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's possible, I know three can make it, we've seen that plenty of times, but I would think there's some mathematical way. It is mathematically possible. All four should and could, like I think that would make our playoffs better, at least looking at it right now. Like I don't really want to see anyone else besides the Division winning the AFC South.


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[Assistant] In the AFC North, I mean, you could maybe make the case for, I mean, look, Cleveland's probably not going to because Watson's not going to be there for enough games. Uhm, I don't think Pittsburgh's going to, even though Thomas never had a losing season, it just doesn't feel like it's going in that direction. Then you gotta pick between Baltimore and Cincy.


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[Assistant] And so I'm like, all right, like that would be the tough, I think the vision, the toughest division. You're looking at losing one. AFC East. I mean, look, give me Buffalo and forget about the rest. You know, I.


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[Assistant] I was giggling, I was laughing, I smiled and like smirked because I was picturing Jerry Burr's head on Pete Prisca's body.


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[Assistant] Okay, maybe he is written free. Uh, I need to examine this. At any rate, uhm.


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[Assistant] Like there's no, it's hard to find a surprise team because everyone's sort of on, like I bet the Eagles to win the Super Bowl during the draft.


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[Assistant] They traded for AJ Brown and drafted Jordan Davis because I love those two guys.


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[Assistant] And now it's like, ehh, like it's great, but everyone's on the Eagles. Everyone's on the Niners. I think, I mean, did the Ravens qualify if they win the Super Bowl as a surprise to you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's pretty, pretty much a long shot. They're not the furthest down the list, right, but.


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[Assistant] I don't know, but that's, that's uhm, that's how I see it. I can't wait though. I'm excited for the season to come. It's going to be fun, man.


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[Assistant] Uh, do you want to tell everybody about? Well, wait, what's today? Today's Thursday. They're listening. That means in two days you will be on the set. That's right.


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[Assistant] Down in Austin. Big new kickoff. We've got Texas, Texas, Alabama. Wait, Texas and Alabama are playing this Saturday? Yea. It's a pretty big game.


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[Assistant] It's a huge game. It's the biggest game of the week. It's why, it's why game day is coming down to our set for a game they're not even airing. So. Oh wow. That is a tough seed for a.


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[Assistant] You know, it happened four times last year, and just to kind of dive into the numbers, like, that doesn't fare well for them straight up.


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[Assistant] Because obviously everyone's gonna tune in to our broadcast. Leading up to the game and not theirs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, is it true that you single-handedly brokered the deal between the Big Ten and CBS?


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[Assistant] No, I had zero to do with that. But, uh, that was a rumor floating around. I'll tell you what, it's awesome for CBS. I think it's awesome for the Big Ten. Uhm, it's cool to see kind of where the Big Ten's going as it continues to kind of grow and expand. Like, I don't think it's done, uh, as of, you know, as of yet, adding on teams.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's cool to see, like, where it's gotten. I mean, think about this, they're talking about the college football playoff, the expanded playoff of 12 teams, going for $2 billion a year.


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[Assistant] But like you start adding up the numbers and like pizza was like, ah, NFL is king. And I'm like, dude, I don't know. Like it started, the numbers are starting to get kind of similar. I know the ratings aren't there because it's, it's more spread out.


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[Assistant] Well, you got 130 teams. Like, yes, it's different in that sense. And obviously all the rights aren't the same. The SEC and Big Ten are by far and away the most.


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[Assistant] You know, sought after and then it's, you know, kind of the playoff system, but still, well, the big tens go for a billion a year.


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[Assistant] Well, the difference is too, you have in the NFL, it's just simply, hello, we're the NFL, give us this money. In college football, it's like,


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[Assistant] Where the SEC gives us this money and the big 10 is like, Whoa, have you seen these numbers? And all of a sudden you have bidding wars that pop up. And I actually think it's more impressive.


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[Assistant] The college football has been able to generate the revenue they can.


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[Assistant] But if you think about it, like the Big Ten has less, you know, big markets, brands compared to the NFL.


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[Assistant] And yet, and yet you're talking about 14 teams will be eventually 16, right? So half of the, half of the NFL and you're able to generate over a billion, what, 1.4 or whatever, you know, being in totality for, you know, not even half that. I know the NFL generates like 4 billion or something like that a year.


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[Assistant] Right, but I'm just saying, that's just the big 10. That's just, right, 14 teams and 16 teams. That's not the SEC. That's not the expanded playoff format. Like, when you really start doing the numbers, you're like, what is JCC doing?


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, but they're kind of locked into a, you know, not a good deal. Yeah, not great.


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[Assistant] You should get your cut of that deal you did with the Big Ten and CBS.


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[Assistant] I just want a lifetime contract. That's all I want. That's all I want too. Lifetime contract. That's not what she wants. Uh, watch Brady Quinn on the big noon kickoff show.


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[Assistant] It's a bunch of, bunch of- By the way, the over on billdose.


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[Assistant] Thursday, tomorrow night, or tonight, tomorrow night. The show is two or two and a half.


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[Assistant] Let's go, uh, one and a half. Security is a lot, well maybe it's not as good there. Talked about that.


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[Assistant] Doing, getting, uh, how do I put this? Getting too romantic in the stands. Oh no, that's Toronto, man.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's Oakland. That's, that's a, it's becoming a thing now.


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[Assistant] Who's like, we gotta, who thinks we need to get intimate?


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[Assistant] Who gets caught in Oakland? Right? Like have you seen their attendance? You could literally be like in between seats and no one would see anything. Or just, or just like go to the bathroom or like, like anything, like even like just not in this, like I know what we should do in the stands is.


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[Assistant] Like Oakland's attendance is like 2000 a game. Like you could find the nosebleeds and like, no one would see you. You wouldn't run camera. Like the floor between the seats is completely clean. No one's been there for like three months. Just lay down and do that. You don't have to be.


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[Assistant] I believe the kiss cam, the kiss cam just triggered everyone, got everyone's juices flowing, you know, they started to get all excited, they can't stand up, you know, it's just that sort of thing. That's actually kind of a good theory.


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[Assistant] In a weird way. All right. This is, we've, this is, this is fun. Uh, we'll, we'll do this again next week. Maybe not eight o'clock, maybe day o'clock. Who knows? Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for Brady.


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[Assistant] It will be the big new kickoff show on Fox Sports. Watch that. Also watch them on CBS Sports HQ. I'm Brenton. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the basics podcast. CBS sports daily NFL podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I'm your host. It is.


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[Assistant] Fake home. As opposed to my uptown, my uptown fake loft that I used for fantasy football today for HQ purposes. Uhm, I'm building my bookshelf. We'll be ready soon. Anyway.


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[Assistant] I have two. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll buy a piano. A tiny little piano to put, um. Nice little nod. What was? Um, let's see some notes. Hmm.


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[Assistant] See some notes on here from Debo. I don't know why there's a Wardix. Well, you know, I think this is like, uh,


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[Assistant] I think this is like some back-end notes that he's trying to remember to do on our rundown. I like the word award acceptance though. It's not.


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[Assistant] I run, I run a, I run a bigger one with like my friends and stuff and it's the same sort of setup. Okay. Um, yeah, we tossing people out. So we're going to do divisional futures. We're going to sort of make our picks like cause you know, like,


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[Assistant] You know. Or maybe a better example. The Buccaneers at minus 280 is just not bettable. No. But.


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[Assistant] Although maybe, maybe we think that the uhm, we'll see if there's other value available in these divisional futures. Okay.


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[Assistant] The division that the NFL feels compelled to continually throw onto.


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[Assistant] Nah, it's like primetime games. It's just like, we want to watch Washington.


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[Assistant] Dallas play again. Like get it through your thick skulls. NFL, we don't want them. We don't like them.


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[Assistant] Dallas Cowboys are the favorite here at plus 130, although uhm.


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[Assistant] Not a substantial favorite. The Eagles checking at plus 155. The Commanders at plus 575 and the Giants a whopping eight to one.