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[Assistant] And now the single safety who was making it look like, hey, I'll cover the guy.


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[Assistant] You're gonna blitz off of honey badger. He goes to the other half of the field, and now honey badger's in that half of the field, and now they're playing Tampa too.


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[Assistant] Okay, next play. Here we go. Same formation, two receivers, two to the right, two receivers to the left. There's Honey Badger. He's playing cover two. It's cover two already. Okay, here they come. Whatever, it's cover two. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, now he's coming down. He's playing man to man on the slot receiver. And the guy off of the slot receiver did blitz me.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's do another one. Let's do another. Now, they've done that, right? You've seen the, we're dropping out, and now we've seen the blitz. Now it's the blitz look again. Here it goes. Honey Badgers back at the cover two safety. Okay.


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[Assistant] He's, he's cheating down a little bit, right? And you're thinking, oh, here comes that blitz to the right side again.


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[Assistant] Set hut. He runs to the middle of the field. Now he's the Tampa two middle linebacker. The safety on the weak side replaced him at that safety on that side and the back side.


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[Assistant] So, without me getting too technical, I hope I explain that the right way. It just shows you like three different looks, where you go, wait, and it ended up being simple coverages and things like that.


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[Assistant] They have both of them. You're exactly right. It's very special. And...


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[Assistant] They can make them look the same to what we were just talking about. Like here comes the all out, it's Tampa too!


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[Assistant] So, that's where they're dangerous. They really are. Uhm, and yeaah, to that point, you know, it's, it's yeaah, for the most part, it's man to man. Tampa too.


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[Assistant] All out Blitz and a little cover 3. But they make them all look the same and you don't know which one is going to happen.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. That's to me the key of the game. The quarterbacks and receivers and offenses are just too good to stay an age to be sitting there anymore going, Oh, this is what defense we play. We're lined up and we're really good at it. Yeah. Every now and then a defense comes around that can do that when they're just absolutely stacked with talent on that side of the ball.


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[Assistant] But for everybody else, you gotta do something to give yourself some advantage that way. And that's where they are cool, you know? Even like what I was talking about, those two deep safety looks.


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[Assistant] You know, Honey Badger goes to the middle, and now he's, you know, a Tampa 2 linebacker down the middle. So he's gone from here to there, alright, and that safety's gone there, and this guy back up there, and now it's still Tampa 2. They'll do that same thing, and you think, oh, here he comes to the middle, and they're gonna go to Tampa 2.


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[Assistant] And now it's cover one and he's the robber in the middle. And then they also have a free safety deep for looking for post routes and stuff too. So it just plays well and marries well. That's the great phrase, how you said it. It marries well. And that is what's confusing for the quarterback and offensive coordinators.


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[Assistant] It wasn't his best game, but I don't come away looking at the game and going, oh, he did this egregiously wrong or made a mistake or man, he missed a lot of open receivers. You know, this was a game where they're missing a stud or two on both sides of the ball to get them into the class with the Kansas City Chiefs. Next question.


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[Assistant] They need another legit receiver. They do. They need another mismatch. You know, to me, and I've kind of tried to say this politely, I do think the weapons of Buffalo have been a little overblown throughout the year. And Diggs is great, I know that. But you see, like...


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[Assistant] Beasley's yes, but he's not like a mismatch nightmare and he's not gonna make you like reorganize your defense or anything like that. He's a great fit for their system. I'm saying they need another guy that, oh you wanna play man to man?


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[Assistant] Oh, that's, you're, okay, you doubling digs? Alright, now you gotta worry about this guy, you're leaving him one-on-one. So specifically another slot guy for the other side or another outside guy? Either way. Or another just weapon who can be a game changer that way. Like, oh, you're doubling, uh,


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[Assistant] Hill? Oh, I have McColl-Hardman or Sammy Watkins over here. That's what the good offenses, the really good offenses do.


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[Assistant] To me, they, like Kansas City, you have a special quarterback.


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[Assistant] It depends on who that player is available, but I think it's certainly an off-season priority. I don't know if it's number one on their list. You know, I do think a pass rusher,


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[Assistant] And really what you saw too, is they need another, they don't really have a really good man to man cover corner. They don't. You don't think white? He's good, he's more of his own corner in my opinion.


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[Assistant] He was not even in the same class of an athlete as Tyree Kill on some of those short passes where he hit a rally and tackle. Most corners are not. No, most are not. I get that. I get that. He's real good. But I think they need it just in general anyways. Because their lack of ability to really cover people across the board


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[Assistant] Forced them too many times in the years to play defenses that I'm sure McDermott and Leslie Fager didn't want to play, but they just couldn't trust some of their guys. So another stutter two up front, cause there's really no stud.


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[Assistant] And they're front four that we talk about to where yeah, Jerry Hughes is good, but he's getting up there in age, you know, who else? Ed Oliver has been a little bit of disappointment at this point. He didn't, you didn't say his name once during that game the other day, you know, so they don't have that guy. They don't have a Chris Jones or a Frank Clark. So to your point, I just think they're,


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[Assistant] They have the cake. They just need a little more icing on top. And that's just one or two alphas, ballers, whatever you want to say, uh, on both sides of the football. All right. There's the AFC title game. AFC title game. What is it? Oh, you know, and yeah, I think that was it. I think we said it all. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say, you know, just, uh, two, you know, like,


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[Assistant] The RPO, the interception Josh Allen throws in the game. And I think we have this, right Pete? The next gen thing of the interception.


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[Assistant] Alright, so don't start it yet. Let's just talk about this. They're gonna run the same play we just saw Mahomes throw the 70 yard ball to Tyree Kill on the slant route. Yes. It's the same type of thing. But.


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[Assistant] Kansas City in this formation, this is just another example for spags and like how he's so good and he understands, oh wait, when we're in this formation they can put me in this bind and this is trouble.


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[Assistant] So look, remember that last Kansas City play we talked about? The pressure was on 49, right? Yes. The middle linebacker. That's all he's reading. Well, on this play, Josh Allen, all he's gonna read is 56. The linebacker standing up over number 65 there. He's the se- So, as you stop this,


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[Assistant] He's, he's reading, he's reading this. Go ahead and let it play Pete.


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[Assistant] 56 is going with the run, right? So he's going, okay, I wanna throw it. Now, the dots don't do this total justice, but rewind it one more time here, and, and don't play it quite yet, Pete. Just let it freeze right here, this is perfect.


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[Assistant] This is where it's different, and this is where he's great. And this is where, when you have really good cover guys, you can do this, and this is where Buffalo needs us a little bit.


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[Assistant] He does this knowing they're gonna put me in a bind. They're gonna screw my middle linebacker. Cause he's not gonna have a, he can't win. Right.


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[Assistant] So, we know what he does here. He doubles Cole Beasley. That's safety UC deep number 22.


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[Assistant] He's, this is, he's like this, Paul. I can tell you just on film, he's doubling him.


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[Assistant] And that's why 27 Fenton over Cole Beasley, he jumps outside because he goes, I got a guy inside helping me. So I'm going to get him anything outside and Thornhill will get him anything inside. Now once 11 goes inside, he knows he can kind of fall off and maybe help the guy outside of that.


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[Assistant] Breland has great coverage on Davis here. Allen throws the ball to Davis on the very far outside.


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[Assistant] Just because of the creativity of the defense and everybody being coached the right way, now the ball gets tipped up and Fenton's there to help that guy out too. And that's not by accident. That was deliberate. Like, hey, you're doubling this guy. Hey, the guy went over there to that guy. He's got him.


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[Assistant] Right. That's what it is. And that's, that's where Spags is special. And just an outside the box thinker and very smart that way. Some for real nuance with that, with that defense, with that past defense. No doubt. And he's had success. Confusing Brady in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Well, I do think there is something there. Yeaah. Yes, he has great familiarity with that system. There's no doubt. The history of success. You're right. When you study a system for the Super Bowl week, because it's two weeks, and you've got nothing to do,


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[Assistant] And it changes your life. I always look at stuff like that. Yeah. To where I go...


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[Assistant] Wait, oh wait, he's gonna have great understanding of the rules and things like that. I wish I would have thought about that more last week talking about the football game in general. But no, it is very fair to say. He has a good feel.


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[Assistant] For not only because of the Super Bowl, but the last few years just playing the, the Patriots in the, you know, regular season and the playoffs and having to deal with that. So he has a great understanding that way.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, those are the ones that jump out right off the bat, or Kelsey and Hill. I mean, he just...


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[Assistant] They always put up good stats, and you know that they're gonna go down swinging with their best punches. That's why we love Kansas City. Right. So, I think I, that's... Mahomes is the favorite. Mahomes is the favorite. The quarterbacks are always the favorite. We know that. That's the way it goes. Uhm, I wouldn't count out, though,


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[Assistant] I would, with the way Kansas City plays, they're willing to take chances just like we saw on things like that, they could, could have a big day, statistically.


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[Assistant] I mean, something like that. Would you put a hundred down on that?


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[Assistant] Or would you take those four? I would take the four. Yeah. I would. Oh, but you know, really, I mean, again, this is a Christmas pet peeve, okay? Why burn on it? That's another one. I'm just sick of it. Oh, the quarterback then won. You're the MVP. But you know, if the Buccaneers win, that's what's going to happen.


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[Assistant] You know, I just, there's just, I don't like that aspect of it. The defensive player getting overlooked unless he does something so unreal that


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[Assistant] You know, there's, there's a number of them. Like Brady in the first Super Bowl. His first Super Bowl win ever. Should have never won the MVP.


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[Assistant] The defense. Ty Law had to pick six. That was the difference in the game. Yeaah. You know.


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[Assistant] Eli Manning, Super Bowl 42, you just mentioned that with Spags. No way Eli Manning should have been the MVP. In my opinion, Strahan and Justin Tuck won that game. They stopped the greatest offense in the history of the league and they scored 14 points.


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[Assistant] You know, there's just, there's just a lot of those where, that's where, uh, I kinda get sick of, sick of that sometimes.


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[Assistant] Washington. Correct. To start back in that day. 84. Giants Bills. I was there. Yep, it was 83 season, 84 Super Bowl. Giants Bills. We had Giants Ravens.


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[Assistant] And, which I was there for that as well. Then we had Pittsburgh Cardinals. That's it. Right. And then we have this.


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[Assistant] I was ten and a half. Big Dad. First time I ever went to a game and I went, wait, we have to go through metal security and all this and there's helicopters flying above us? Oh, that's right.


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[Assistant] This gives me chills thinking about it. Gives me chills.


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[Assistant] That was an emotional day altogether. I mean, my dad was, had really the best year of his career and he wasn't playing in the Super Bowl. So it was like a day where I was like, man, let's go Giants. Ah, I feel so bad for my dad.


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[Assistant] Then the car ride home after the game. I waited for him. And I just know he was...


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[Assistant] He was devastated. Devastated. Week 15, yeaah. He was devastated.


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[Assistant] Not even a football question. You and your dad. I told you it was random.


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[Assistant] Wow, I like the weekend, I am excited for that.


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[Assistant] Steelers Cardinals. Were you there? Nope, I was not there for that one.


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[Assistant] It was on NBC. It was a great game. I was living in Tampa at the time. I still live there. This was only a year and a half after I lost to my Spleen. And oddly enough that week I got H1N1. Just so you know. I was throwing up all week that week. It was a great week. I don't know. Yikes.


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[Assistant] Okay, well that was the one we did, that was that game. Uhm, and that game was... Springsteen called the plays. Bruce Harrians.


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[Assistant] No, I don't, uh, well, I believe he called the plays, uh, at the Super Bowl when they lost the Green Bay. Okay. I think the Aaron Rodgers one where they lost that one in Dallas. I'm pretty sure he called them in that game.


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[Assistant] No, he was not. I don't think so either. So, you're right. Uhm, but, but, you know, to that point, because he's saying that, and I called plays and I still didn't get it, like, cause he's talking about Eric Biennami. Right. And I think, you know, that's the one thing I've heard from people, you know, there's some similarities there with,


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[Assistant] They don't sugarcoat. They're not politicians. They're football coaches. Right. And that doesn't always mean...


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[Assistant] The most impressive, charismatic interviews of like an owner who's expecting his ass to be kissed because oh, you want this job and I'm the owner.


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden he's telling him, no, this is wrong with your team. That's wrong with your team. Oh, that guy stinks. Why'd you drag, you know, and that all of a sudden, I don't like him as I don't want to hire him. I think there's a little of that going on. I think the guy calling plays from right now by


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[Assistant] Well, like, right, so you have San Francisco who won in Stanford. Correct. To beat the Dolphins. That's the one we kind of got to add on late. This isn't the one that I had in mind. Okay, alright, so hold on, let me just think about this a little. So this is a team that won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm just pulling up the teams, I'm not looking at anything here. This one's a good one, it got me thinking here. So they're in their home city, but they're not in their home stadium. Correct.


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[Assistant] Right, which means, which means it's the Rams against the Steelers in Superbowl 14-31-19 Terry Bradshaw MVP. Was that just read to you in your ear? No. You just, you just straight... You know what they call me? One way to make him that. Historian.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Yeaah. So like, Pasadena is L.A. Pasadena is L.A. It's L.A. Right. I wish they would go back there now. I know they got the Rams new stadium and Chargers new stadium, but man, the Rose Bowl, of course, it's where my dad won his Super Bowl. It's a special, special place. Getting in and out, I mean, that's


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[Assistant] I was thinking like, I was going like, wait, did like, you know, cause you start, you start to think like, wait, I started to go like, Houston, the old, I just started thinking like, wait, where are cities that have multiple stadiums?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, like, say this the wrong way. That was 38-9 Raiders victory, Marcus Allen MVP. Yeaah, awesome. Uhm, Jack Skwirek? Yes! Yeaah. Is that pronounced it the right way? Nailed it. Bam. Yeaah. Here's a little background to that story. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] We have a Super Bowl repeat game here, right? This year coming up in Tampa because the Chiefs and Bucks played each other. That's Super Bowl. The Raiders in Washington played in the regular season early in the year.


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[Assistant] They ran that play at the end of the first half.


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[Assistant] And I can't remember his name, 25, the running back on Washington. Joe Washington. Joe Washington, thank you very much. He caught the screen and ran like 80 yards and I think got them either the touchdown or a field goal right before the end of the first half where they, I think they won that regular season matchup. And the Raiders were ready for it that time. That's, you know, I love stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Millen was a real thumper, giant neck roll and shoulder pads and they went, let's get a guy that can cover a little bit better. Charlie Sumner was the linebacker coach. Yeah, but I've heard that story too and I think you're exactly right. Yeah, good history lesson.


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[Assistant] It's like five or eight. Zero. Does it really? He went over. Holy crap.


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[Assistant] I remember that I was in the Hawaii that week at the Pro Bowl for my father and that was the week the challenger crashed and everything like that. That was a weird week too.


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[Assistant] That's why I don't, that's why I don't care about paying more taxes or giving cause I was literally born with a shamrock silver spoon up my ass, okay? How many rockets though? Uh, zero. Zero rockets.


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[Assistant] I didn't understand, I can remember being there, why is everybody, this is the Pro Bowl, why is everybody making such a big deal at the Super Bowl? Because we were there already, when the Bears were playing the Patriots, and everybody was, and I was like, the real game is next week, the Pro Bowl. That was my first time, my parents explained to me, no Christopher,


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[Assistant] I mean, Art Monk, I can still remember watching him walk by and eating breakfast one morning with my mom and dad. And of course my dad played with the Giants. They played the Redskins, the Washington team. Sorry, I don't mean to say that disrespectfully.


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[Assistant] Uh, twice a year. I knew he was. I remember eating breakfast. I'm like eating pancakes. I see him walk by. I was like, Dad, there's our monk. And I ran out of the restaurant. I was like, I gotta get his autograph right now. So I have a lot of that. Uh, my most embarrassing anything like that story was actually when I got older in Hawaii quarterback challenge.


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[Assistant] I'm twelve or thirteen. What year? What year? Ninety-two, ninety-three, right in there. I mean, and I'm aware, you know, I'm playing football. It's L.A. Marina over there. Right. Randall Cunningham, Aikman's taken over the world, Steve Young. Randall Cunningham's the coolest thing on earth to me at that point.


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[Assistant] You know, I've watched him do, you know, dipsy-doo, fall on your arm, get up, run around Lawrence Taylor, jump over Carl Banks, throw a touch. So I'm watching him, even though I hated him on the Sundays he played the New York Giants, every other time I was like, man, this guy is amazing. Oh my gosh, this is fun to watch. I followed him the whole week. He was so sick of me.


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[Assistant] You know, I'll be back running gear and all that. But, uh, I, I still, we still laugh about it to this day when I see him. Maybe he was sad that the week came to an end. Sounds like he liked you. He, he, I don't think he disliked me. Yeah. Uh, but I'm sure he was sick of me at the end of the week going, okay. Maybe mom and dad were happy to kind of... Yeah, seriously. Randall, the babysitter. Here you go, Randall.


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[Assistant] Monday we'll hit it all, and dad, Big Phil, he'll be involved, but we're gonna get Ask Me Anythings on Monday. And then Wednesday of next week is where I really want to do the deep dive into the matchup, break down the previous matchup, things that I think that could happen in this game, and all of that stuff.


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[Assistant] But everybody be good out there. Be safe. Have a good weekend. Pauly, you the man. Peace out. See ya.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, what's up? That's right, I am Kristen's. I do talk about everything. Uh, yes, I get paid to talk about everything. And yes, it has hurt my relationship with my friend Kyle Shenhan, definitely. So if you want to know what the 49ers can do, the draft, free agency, just


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[Assistant] Tune in here, I'll tell you it all. Cause that's what he does. He just tells me, and then I tell everybody. That just, it works really good for him. It really helps our friendship out. That I tell everybody in the world what the 49ers stuff is going to happen.


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[Assistant] He does. I respect Kyle for respecting that. I do. I mean, you know, I think that's what he was almost referring to where he goes, he's going to talk about everything. I mean, he doesn't want to put you in that spot. Well, yes, right. Exactly. Right. He knows that my job is to talk about all that's going on in sports. He also knows me.


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[Assistant] Well enough to know that I don't hold back with opinions or anything like that.


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[Assistant] You know, we stay out of like deep conversations about his own football teams. Yeah. Do I have a good feel for how he looks at football as a whole? Or, you know, how he views certain positions and how he, of course I do. I mean, he's my friend. We talk about football all the time.


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[Assistant] That's what we do. But it doesn't mean we talk about 49er football all the time. That's where it's different. And, uh, no, it's good. It's between the west coast...


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[Assistant] East Coast, right? That hurts the friendship because like, you know.


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[Assistant] He knows I'm not going to hold back or do anything like that and he's been good friend that way to understand that even when it comes to his own team, I'm going to give my thoughts and evaluations because he knows I work at it.


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[Assistant] Well, I have to say sorry sometimes, cause I'm like, I feel bad that he's gonna answer questions about me, just because we're friends, and now it's like, well, Chris said it, so he must have got it from you, and I- People think that you're automatic.


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[Assistant] No, no, not at all. I mean, and the fact that, you know, as we're sitting here right now, he's attending Mac Jones Pro Day to watch him, makes me feel even more comfortable about those tweets and thoughts that I've put out there.


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[Assistant] You know, again, like we just said, I don't know these things from Kyle Shanahan. I do know my friend and how he views football a little bit though. And that's where I make these assumptions off of.


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[Assistant] You know, first thing, hey, let's just talk about the trade itself. Yeaah. You know, we talked about it a few times, and I know I've talked about it with Paul. You know, once you get past 10 in this draft, you're kind of a no man's land for the quarterback. I mean, you could be in danger of like,


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[Assistant] Wait, not getting the guy we want or getting a guy that okay is a project and maybe we don't feel like can start for us in the next year or two. Maybe that way. Maybe you got left without nobody that way. So I think that's the first school of thought. Hey, wait, there's a quarterback we like. We're sitting at 12.


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[Assistant] And there's some teams behind us that need quarterbacks too. What if they traded up in front of 12? So I think there's all those ifs right there that


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[Assistant] You know, Shanahan being smart just going, well, damn, if this happens, then what happens to me? If this happens, then who's my quarterback? Or, you know, uh, if this happens, what is the future of my team altogether? So I just think there, from the, just that standpoint alone, that's where the 49ers and Shanahan were aggressive. He was going to take fate and destiny into his own hand.


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[Assistant] And go, wait, I'm gonna end up with one of these guys I like here. And you know, what he's saying here is there's obviously three quarterbacks. He's like, maybe there's even four, you know, to say that. Okay, so that's the first thing he did. And I'm never gonna have a problem with that. As you know, when you have a guy you like,


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[Assistant] And it's at the quarterback position. You go get him. And you don't worry about what everybody else says or anything like that. Alright, so that's the first thing I would say with the trade. The player...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think it's Mac Jones. Of course I do. You know? Alright, so what about this?


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[Assistant] Again, see there's a lot of likelies there, right? And that's, that's the problem. And I'm sure that's what didn't sit well with Shanahan.


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[Assistant] You know, okay, yeaah, it's likely, maybe, unless somebody jumps up in front of me and does something like that.


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[Assistant] I mean, what, how are we supposed to say, what if, what if the Jags, I mean we know the Jags, the Jets, alright, the Atlanta Falcons at four took quarterbacks, alright, so there's three quarterbacks, alright, and now let's say the Carolina Panthers take a fourth quarterback, right, and now let's just say,


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[Assistant] The New England Patriots of 15 traded up, uh, with the team at number nine, the Denver Broncos, who also could say they want a quarterback too if they wanted to.


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[Assistant] Oh wait, now everybody's gone and we don't have a quarterback. So that goes back to that scenario I was just laying out. And I think that's where it is.


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[Assistant] I, I had said this last week even before this went down.


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[Assistant] That I had gotten the sense that there's some teams laying in the weeds on Mack Jones a little bit. That there's some teams that really like him, and it's just not known.


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[Assistant] Right? And I could see Shanahan and that comp- and that group there. Listen, if I've heard some of those rumors like that, I'm sure they have too. That's probably what scared them. So now you're back into the, well, if phase. Okay, well, what if I just trade to number three and take all the ifs away?


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[Assistant] And now I got my guy going forward. Alright, and that's where I do, of course yeaah, I think it's Mac Jones.


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[Assistant] Because the history of Shanahan, yes, the Kirk Cousins, the Matt Schaubs, the Matt Ryans of the world, even the Jimmy Garoppolo are the mold of a guy, right, like, like Mac Jones.


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[Assistant] Matt Jones is more talented than all those guys coming out. Maybe other than Matt Ryan, which is close. I don't think it's a big difference between Matt Ryan coming out and what I see from Matt Jones on film.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's where, you know, I think a little bit of the 2021, we need this athletic quarterback has hurt the stock of Mac Jones to a degree. Where I go, yeah, I know we all like Mahomes and Josh Allen and that, but.


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[Assistant] I did, I knew enough that he caught my eye during the season and I started going like to my dad and people going like


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[Assistant] I mean, Mac Jones, like, is better than I thought. He caught my eye, if anybody remembers me last year, at the end of last season, when Tula got hurt, and I went, this offense is just as good with this guy, you know? And so he caught my eye then. I'll tell you who else really, like,


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[Assistant] Kind of put him on the radar for me a few years ago was my dad.


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[Assistant] My dad, I remember him watching some spring games down in Alabama going, Christopher, this Mac Jones guy.


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[Assistant] He's a ma, he's a machine throwing the football. He really jumps out to me and those type of things. So, you know, I went into the year and then as, as the year went on and I like, I always talk about college casual fan there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I turned on some games and went, ooh, I like the way that throw looks. Now, did I think when I turned on the film I was going to be blown away to the point that I was? No, that was to me, I was like, whoa, wait, this is real, this is better than I thought it was.


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[Assistant] And since I've been in this business, like yes, I would say it's up there with anybody that I've seen with the ability to read a defense, now dissect what I gotta do, go through my reads and make the appropriate throw and all that. Alright, people say. He's the man.


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[Assistant] That's a natural, like, you can get better at that, but that's also one of those things that I think he's naturally good at. That's gonna be a strength of his career, I would think, through and through. Okay, now, now the other stuff we talk about, right, the arm strength, all of those type of things.


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[Assistant] Like he doesn't seem like a high effort throw. He's not. That's where I think it's also misleading. I think people see it on TV and they just go, well, it's accurate and it's just smooth and he's got a quick release.


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[Assistant] You know, there's not that Zach Wilson flair, the Mahomes or Josh Allen or Rogers flair to it. And that's where I think it can be misleading too, unless you've got a little bit of a trained eye to go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is effortless, but this ball's spinnin'. And it's movin' through the air.


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[Assistant] I think his arm is being underrated for its explosive ability. Like I said, I think it's every bit as good as Joe Burroughs from last year. At his pro day today, I bet he throws it, you know. I think he's gonna try to show his ass a little bit on the pro day, especially after what we saw with Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] He's got his receivers today in doing that. Last week he played it safe in that pro day. He did it really good, he was a machine, everything was accurate, all that. Today I'd like to see him like, throw me some sidearm, throw me a few rifles, do things like that.


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[Assistant] Right, yeah, alright, so I do think the 49ers know who they're gonna pick. Do I think that's written in stone? No, I think they made this draft move to get up to number three because they, yes, they had one guy in mind. Do I think there's maybe another guy that's close or in that range?


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[Assistant] I would say probably so too. But I think to our, our buddy's question there, it would have to take something like he's saying. Yeah. For it to...


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[Assistant] To pop out. I mean, especially if I think, hey, they're making the trade for this one guy. It's gonna be based on what they've watched on film and how that jumps off. So, it would take a monumental shitting of the bed, alright?


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[Assistant] But, like, here's the other thing too. We talked about the 49ers, Shanahan's history with quarterbacks, all of those type of things. The other thing I think we gotta take into aspect here is the state of the 49ers right now, at this second. And this is the last thing, or really probably the main thing.


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[Assistant] That makes me believe it's Mac Jones. One, hey, just from a base thought, you don't trade up nine spots to get a guy that's a project.


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[Assistant] You don't, you don't, to me that's just, that's kind of an NFL no-no. Well, we're gonna leverage three years of first round picks for a guy we think we're gonna make good in two years from now. Or, he's got some things we really gotta work on.


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[Assistant] That is the Trey Lancer or Justin Fields. You know, there is some elite there, but there's some things that gotta be worked on and better. Mack Jones is ready right now from all aspects, Ahmed. So mentally, pro offense.


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[Assistant] I, I, I get it. It's a good, it's a good question. I mean, that's something certainly to be concerned with. Didn't need three questions. Well, it didn't need that. But, okay. Yes, what makes Bucky, what makes him NFL ready is, alright, 17 games is not the worst.


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[Assistant] 17 games against elite competition added to that. 17 games of stellar performance and decision making and production and managing a game and throwing. 17 of those. I mean, it's almost every one where you go, damn, that's a good game. Damn, that's a good game. Damn, that's a good game.


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[Assistant] And then, NFL ready from the standpoint of yes, his game fits within the NFL realm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he is ready to dissect NFL defenses. He's ready to be in a huddle. He's been taught to read plays like an NFL quarterback as far as going through progressions. So as compared to


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[Assistant] Really all the other quarterbacks in those departments, he's number one.


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[Assistant] You know, him and Zach Wilson go through reads and do the most pro stuff in their offense. And then it's the other three guys are oncology type offenses that way. So yes, that's where I say he is NFL ready and NFL ready too with the fact that here's the last thing and I haven't been able to get to it.


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[Assistant] I keep cutting you off. It's okay. You asked the right questions for the time and how I was phrasing things. But now, here's the Christian. The 49ers are ready right now. They're ready.


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[Assistant] You're not going to waste a team that's in the Super Bowl window on a guy that, a quarterback that's like, hey, we think we'll be ready when we're out of the window and we got to rebuild the team, right? That to me doesn't make sense.


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[Assistant] So, I would think it's Mac Jones for all those reasons. I think it's Mac Jones because that fits what Shanahan likes at quarterback. I would think it's Mac Jones because if you watch the film, it's top 5, top 10 quarterback performance, ability, all of those type of things.


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[Assistant] And I think when you add that together and obviously there's been a wanting of a new quarterback there. There's many teams and I mean players they've been associated with trade. Yes, I would just think that it is Mac Jones at three.


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[Assistant] And I think eventually we'll see Jimmy Garoppolo traded draft weekend or before the draft weekend at some point. I want to talk about that.


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[Assistant] I'm in, I just, let me cut you off there. Yes. If I'm in Shanahan shoes, right?


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[Assistant] I'm going, wait, what was my best year as an offensive coordinator? Oh, that's right. When I had Matt Ryan. Right. Wait. I got everything in my offense.


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[Assistant] I like quarterbacks like Matt Ryan. Wait, there's one sitting here in the draft that I think's a top five, top ten pick and he plays just like Matt Ryan. I think Shanahan's looking at that going.


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[Assistant] Wait, you give me, you know, he was the offensive coordinator there in Atlanta for two years. You give me more than two cracks at it with this guy or a Matt Ryan type quarterback. I think he looks at it going, no, I'm going to win a Super Bowl with that kind of quarterback if I just get, you know, a few more swings at it that way. And then let's not forget they were up 28 to three with that guy at quarterback in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] You make a lot of good points, alright? You do. You know, one, I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo is necessarily your favorite backup in the world too, just because he gets injured. So then you're like, well, I might have to keep a third stringer too. But if you get your starter injured and your backup injured, you're screwed no matter what. You're right, either way. I understand that.


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[Assistant] I think where I would push back, because a lot of your thoughts are correct. Yeaah. And I'm sure that Shanahan and Lynch are thinking about that, going yeaah, okay, but we do have a good team and it's an insurance policy and all of that.


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[Assistant] You know, I always go back to the framing of your team conversation.


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[Assistant] This is a guy in Jimmy G that's got a little, you know, he's got, you know, some stakes in the locker room. He's, he's, the guys like him. You know, there's, there's a culture that has been formed around there and he's been a big part of it. And of course they went to the Super Bowl and all that.


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[Assistant] To me, you do endanger dividing the locker room a little bit that way.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, when you have that kind of presence, you know, as much as the guys are gonna try to buy into Mac Jones, they'll still be like, guys, they're gonna be like, man, I like Jimmy. He's been our guy. I'm gonna, you know, man, he got me the ball or I just like the way he acts. He's cool when we have a beer or whatever.


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[Assistant] You know, so that can be an issue for the football team. I think that's one thing to look at. You know, the 25 million dollars, again,


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[Assistant] Hey, we need a Judevion Clowney. Okay, now we can get him. Or, I'm just saying that. There's other later free agents to build your team and build a little debt. Or a trade where you can fit a big salary into the shirt. Exactly. Or a trade can do it too, right? So that's another thing too. And then, you know, I guess the other thing is,


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[Assistant] Jimmy G is a starting caliber NFL quarterback. You hate to ever just let one of them go without getting anything in return. Right. And that's where, you know,


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[Assistant] Like I said, I'm not trying to argue against your points, but, you know, we're sitting here right now at a point where there's a few teams that can use a quarterback, and I think that are in the market.


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[Assistant] And this might be the time where you can get best them, get the best deal because you get one of the two of them going against each other and now, oh wait, we're only gonna get this, but now we're gonna get something else better because they're going against each other. You know, I don't know. That's the way I look at it. I've always been big into framing the team.


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[Assistant] And a really good quarterback like Mac Jones, he should be able to overcome a guy like that in the locker room. But I still think coaches don't love it and they want the whole team to buy in to the guy.


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[Assistant] Even with Mac Jones, they gotta find a quality backup. That's real. So even if they go that Mac Jones route, they gotta find that. And here's the last thing, and then we can move on from the subject.


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[Assistant] Let's say the scenario plays out that you're talking about. Mac Jones beats out Jimmy Garoppolo. Just barely, right? Yep.


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[Assistant] A week before training, or a week before the first game, somebody falls on his leg in practice, high ankle sprain, gonna miss four or five weeks.


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[Assistant] Oh, now we're nine and two. Oh, now we're, now we're 12 and two. Well, now we're 12, you know, 13 and three and we, Jimmy Garravo is our starting quarterback. That's where I always get back to too. When you have that kind of team.


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[Assistant] Right. It's good thoughts. Let me just say this right off the bat. Because I've heard this a little bit. Like, first off, the Josh Allen film had way less questions.


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[Assistant] You know, as far as an evaluator goes, it did.


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[Assistant] Now I know there were some dicey throws and decisions, but they were literally, again, if you went back to Josh Allen the year before he came out, when the team was a little bit better, the film was a lot cleaner. That last year he was in college, the team stunk, but there was still,


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[Assistant] A lot of good reads of plays and good things like that and going through progressions. Now sometimes it was, I got to the fourth progression, and yea, that guy's covered like a blanket too, just like the first three were. And now he throws a ball into a tight window in the double, like yea, there was some of that, certainly.


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[Assistant] But there was less raw questions about Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] As com- Wyoming was literally like-


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[Assistant] We're not very good. Please save us. That's what they did with Josh Allen and that led to some bad habits because they were like, well, we can't win unless you do seven cart wheels and flip away from that guy and throw a 50 yard laser. We can't win. So you're allowed to do whatever you want. You know,


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[Assistant] Alright, so that led to the rawness, but there wasn't a rawness to his mechanics and the way he saw the field and the ability to throw different balls and everything like that.


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[Assistant] With Justin Fields, I see rawness in all of those areas. With the way he reads the field. With the mechanics.


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[Assistant] Sometimes with just looking at one guy and then going, wait, what about two and three? Why did we just not even look and start running? Or, or why did we panic and just wait on number one? Things like that.


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[Assistant] Wow. That goes into it too. A ton of, a ton of free blitzers where I write in my notes. I, nobody I wrote more notes with than on Justin Fields where I went


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[Assistant] I don't think he has any idea that he was hot here. Now he got out of it because he's a freak of nature athletically and can do things like that to where yea, the Blitz got there but they didn't get him and he still made a play.


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[Assistant] You know, but it's different to where I can watch Kellen Mond.


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[Assistant] Or Mac Jones or Zach Wilson and they have free blitzers, right? But they know they're free and they know like, oh, I got to get the ball out here real quick or do that. So that's the things like to the point I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Where there is some rawness to Justin Fields there. He has some elite traits to our, to our buddies question here. There's no doubt. The arm is...


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[Assistant] But like I said, at the end of the day, there's just, there's too many big questions I have as a pure thrower, decision maker, and consistency in that department, and all of those things I just said there, to where that scares me a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, the name of the game still, as much as we like movement and all those type of things, it's still throwing the football and making the right throws. Yea, we want a guy that can get out of the pocket and buy a little more time to throw a football and do all that. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, right now, like I've said earlier, with Justin Fields, yeaah, he's got all those great physical abilities, and there's some things to like about the throwing, but the things...


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[Assistant] He needs to fix or not where I just go, oh, they're slam dunk. He'll definitely fix them. I see guys do this all the time. Sure. There are ones where I go, I don't know. This is, these are tough ones. I'd like to see if he can apply this and get better at this and do all those types of things. And that's where I question it a little bit.


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[Assistant] It is, and you're right. I mean, yes. Would he be able to do special things with a lancer, a field, a quarterback, and running the ball and doing all that? Yes, definitely.


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[Assistant] But I still think at some point in time and even back to the RJ3 days, you know, there was teams, they were starting to get a feel for how they were using them to run the ball. It was going to get to the point where no, you're going to have to start beating us in the pocket to throw the football and doing some of that.


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[Assistant] You know, there's just, there's only so much you can do. Wait, there's this guy in the NFL who's a really awesome running quarterback. As good as we've ever seen. What's his name? Oh, Lamar Jackson. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, you see, as good as it can be running the ball, at some point during the year, it always comes back to what question? Well, can he beat you in the pocket? Can he bring you back in the fourth quarter? Right? There's gonna be a few teams, no matter how good you are at running the ball,


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[Assistant] And being creative that are gonna be able to match up and stop that. And now it's gonna be, okay, wait, now I gotta do this in the pocket and be this type of quarterback? And that to me is where I got the questions about Lance and Fields. Not to say they can't do it, they've had the great, you know, ability to run.


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[Assistant] Which, I think you've heard my dad talk about this before too. It's something we talk, that ability to run does hinder their ability to grow as a passer. Because it's always like, well, the first guy's not open, my legs always get me out of trouble. So I'll just get out of trouble. You haven't had as much. You haven't been forced to go, you can't do this. You're not going to be able to do this today.


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[Assistant] And that takes an adjustment period. So, there's a really good question, and I'm not, but I'm just, I'm just saying that


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[Assistant] I think in the NFL world and Shanahan's world.


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[Assistant] The top five offenses he had was Schaub. And that's Schaub. I mean, Matt Schaub's not as talented as Mack Jones.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I think he looks at what McVeigh did with Kirk Cousins, and that type of stuff, and he goes, wait, Mac Jones, that offense, he's better than Kirk Cousins. He's definitely more talented than him coming out. Uh huh. You know, and then I think again, it goes back to the Matt Ryan thing, and he thinks about what he did there, and he goes, yeah, yeah, it's cool what I did with RG3 and all that.


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[Assistant] But then we were pretty much unstoppable with Matt Ryan and that offense. And I just think that's where it'll, it'll end up being.


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[Assistant] I mean, anybody you talk to, everybody thinks Atlanta's hot on Traylands. That's all I hear. You know, when there's that much smoke, I always think, okay, there's fire. Like, this is not just one guy throwing out a rumor or one guy that, you know, is probably being played by the agent and just like letting out propaganda or being lied to or anything. There's too many people


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[Assistant] Kind of in the know that think there's a real love affair there with, with Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] I think that's too high for number four. You've already heard my reasons. A lot I like about Trey Lance. I don't want that to be, you know, taken away from my evaluation. There really is some, some things to love about him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean the team I look at more than anything here with this current scenario are the Carolina Panthers.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, you know, like, like Shanahan and the 49ers have given every signal in the world that they want another quarterback this year. They're done with Teddy Bridgewater.


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[Assistant] You know, they're done, they're done with it. You know, they want a guy that can make more plays, more throws, bigger arm, take advantage of, you know, D.J. Moore and Robbie Anderson and their speed and everything. They got to go that way. So they're the team I look at more than any other out there to go.


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[Assistant] Would they make the move up now to get one of those two guys that they really like?


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[Assistant] And again, like I said, I question that fit too.


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[Assistant] You know, again, Fields has not shown me he's Drew Brees or, or, uh, Joe Burrow-ish in the way he can read and do a west coast offense that way, which Carolina's doing.


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[Assistant] So that's where I question it. I do. And that's where I get into the Carolina thing too and watch out for them off of our buddy's question here is just with


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[Assistant] You know, Sam Darnold, I think he'll be on the blocks here at some point because the Jets are going to go Zach Wilson and of course, you know, Jimmy G. Those, those two guys to me fit Carolina's offense more.


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[Assistant] Then, fields or lands. Well if they go fields or lands, I think you're gonna have to change your offense for a little bit.


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[Assistant] I do. And I don't know necessarily the way it's set up to say those two guys can take advantage of


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[Assistant] The DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson, all of their capabilities, at least in their first two years of their careers, they learned to be better polished passers and all those things that I talked about. I don't know if I answered the question there, but.


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[Assistant] I talked about, you know, I think the Jets can still win with Sam Darnold. I do. And you can use those picks to do other things and help your football team. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] But after evaluating Zach Wilson and watching the pro day and doing all that, I mean to me it's a no-brainer. I'm going Zach Wilson. He can do things for that offense and do things that Sam Garner can't do. Just simply. You know, listen, I know


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[Assistant] He's faster and quicker than Aaron Rodgers is at this point of his career, 36 years old. So he's going to bring more of a movement element to the offense and being able to do that, you know, and getting outside the pocket and making more throws that way. I mean, from what I know with Zach Wilson,


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[Assistant] You know, just from a few people too here just recently told me, like, he was gonna blow it out in the con- I mean, in the workout.


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[Assistant] You know, I've been told that he can do like windmill dunks. Like he was gonna have an unbelievable vertical. You know, he's like a 500 pound squatter. He's one of those type of guys. And that he would have run a pretty impressive 40 time. Which I, I mean to me on film he looks like he'd be a low 4'6 guy. Let alone, his arm is special.


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[Assistant] I know there's the clip that Lewis Riddick put out there of the one throw that Sam Donald made. Yes, it was a good throw. It wasn't exactly the same. And there's also a difference in, you know, being forced to do it and reacting in a football game as compared to weight.


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[Assistant] Right. Okay. And so what I'm saying with is, shop Sam Darnold. Because I think Zach Wilson, like you've heard me say from the start, is Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes-ish. I think that's what he is. I think you have a superstar at your hands. With Sam Darnold, I think you have a real good quarterback. And you can win with him. But not a superstar. Not like this kid.


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[Assistant] And that's where I would go if I'm the Jets and I'd be shocked after that workout.


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[Assistant] You heard the reaction of people there. You heard the chatter. I know there's like five or six people around the NFL world who don't want to accept it for what it was for some reason and that's where I would go. You need to evaluate yourself then because you're being a hater.


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[Assistant] Like 70 NFL people weren't wrong and you were like the three there that were like, well, that wasn't really that special. I'll show you why. I found a clip of week three of Sam Darnold. Look at that. It's not that special. If it wasn't that special, I just would go, why doesn't that, why didn't Sam Darnold do this at his pro day? Why did he not do it? Why doesn't everybody do it?


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, well, you know, again, it goes into like, I understand it's a pro day and people want to hate on that and it's in shorts and all that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But then, okay, then, then no longer are you allowed to wax poetically about the DB who runs 429 and was awesome in drills and I don't want to hear it. Okay, so you're getting it.


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[Assistant] Are the Carolina Panthers, like I said. Yep. And then the Denver Broncos. Yeah. I have a hard time thinking the Denver Broncos, Vic Fangio, third year, big year for his coaching career, all that. That he's just gonna go, oh, Drew, we trust you. Go ahead, Drew Locke.


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[Assistant] My career is, is, it's all on you. Uh, that's where I don't, I think at the very least, whether they got a Deshaun Watson and just made him the starter, even if they keep Drew Locke there, I gotta think they're gonna bring somebody in to compete or be a,


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[Assistant] Well I think just one, just the clips you're seeing here more than anything, you're seeing a twitchy athlete one, or you just go, man he can move around the pocket really nice and easy, and then you see an arm that's explosive. You know, I'll go back to a little bit, just like


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[Assistant] Again, give, give like Daniel Jeremiah and Steve Weisch. Steve Weisch was there, I think. But I mean, Daniel Jeremiah has seen a million quarterbacks. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You heard him gushing about it. Steve Weisch is at all these pro days. And not to say he's Johnny quarterback guru, but he's been to a lot of them. And he was sitting there going, wait, this looks different.


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[Assistant] He was trying to explain in the microphone. The ball explodes out of this kid's hand.


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[Assistant] Right? So that's what I saw. And I think that's what a lot of people there are going to see too. It's not the, yeah, okay, yeah, he could throw a 20 yard out route. So can Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones and do all that? No, but there was a difference between the track, the Zach, the Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] 20 yard out route. It was the quickness and explosiveness of the release itself and then the ball spinning extremely hard and then the ball not just like hitting the target.


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[Assistant] A chest high level, the whole throw and driving through the target to where it's like if you put a paper up or a piece of wood, it would have gone right through it too. So that's the first thing you're gonna look at. Then what are they looking at with all these special throws and everything? Hey, when you're a top pick in the NFL draft,


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[Assistant] First off, you're not going to be on a real good team. So you're going to have to make some plays off schedule, outside the pocket, do those type of things. And all coaches, what they want to see more than anything is, because when you get to this level and we talk about this all the time,


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[Assistant] Hey, they expect you to be able to take advantage of what's there to be had. Oh wait, there's a 12 yard curl route? Yeah, you're in the NFL. You should hit the 12 yard curl route wide open. Okay. Now nothing's open. What are you going to do? Or there are, there's somebody open on that side of the field, but you got people in your face.


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[Assistant] We'd like you to still hit the open guy. Oh, oh wait, you can fade away and no feet on the ground and still throw it perfect? Oh, okay, I like that. Okay, so then I'm, I'm never wrong as a play caller. Even though the protection stunk and I didn't call that great of a play, you, you made the throw anyways and I look like a genius, right? That's what the people like.


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[Assistant] So now you're seeing what he can do in scenarios that, you know, are gonna be a lot of times in the special moments of the football game, unless you just have a completely dominant football team. You know, end of the fourth quarter, end of the half.


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[Assistant] We're down by 14. They know we're gonna throw at every play. So I gotta, I can't just sit in the pocket. I'm gonna be able to, you know, get out when you guys do blitz or my offensive line's a little tired and we're letting up some pressure. Don't worry. I'll be able to make up for those types of things. That's what he's showing right there. And again, where I'll go back to it, Ahmed is,


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[Assistant] It's, it's sometimes, it's a lot harder and takes more guts to do what he did right there than it does in a game. In a game, you're not gonna think about it. I've seen the Daniel Jones clip out there and the Sam Darnold clip out there where people go, look, they did this. It wasn't to the same effect.


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[Assistant] It wasn't with the same power in the arm. It wasn't totally just fading away backwards. Okay. And throwing it that way. Alright. So it wasn't the same as much as it was similar. It was not the same and


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[Assistant] There's a reason those guys don't do it during their workouts. And this is why. Because...


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[Assistant] Wait, okay coach, you want me to throw this one fading away, uh, down the middle. Okay, this one fading away to the right corner. Now you want me to run as hard as I can to the right and throw across my body to the 20-yard incut, right? If things fell apart,


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[Assistant] Most quarterbacks go, oh, I missed the last four. Wait, coach, maybe we should abandon some of these, these throws here. Let's just go, let me just go back to five steps, hitch and throw and do that. Yeah. You know, let's say I have an injury too. So the degree of difficulty is really up there. Yeah. Right. And there's the endanger or the danger of it falling apart.


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[Assistant] But with a great one like this, or a Mahomes, or anything like that, they know, this kid's such a natural, it falling apart means he misses one throw. Not, there's no way he'll miss four or five. Okay. And to me, that's what it's showing more than anything. And uh, that's where, again, I know it was just a workout,


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[Assistant] That's the first thing I have to say. None of them were throwing fade away 67 yard bombs. None of them were throwing no feet on the ground, other side of the field, I'm on the opposite hash, 40 yard corner routes. None of them were throwing no look, 20 yard lasers over the middle.


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[Assistant] None of them were throwing like, I'm gonna have my feet in a weird position and now throw a 20 yard out route as fast as anybody in football. That's negative. Yes, those guys did a few impressive things. Johnny Manziel's workout? What? What? He wore shoulder pads and a helmet. That's where the impressive part stopped, right there.


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[Assistant] And he called everybody up to tell the teams how the workout was gonna go. I mean, so stop. That's the end of that.


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[Assistant] Nobody was waxing poetically about his pro day other than, whoa, he could throw the ball 80 yards. That's where it ended. Nobody else went, whoa, what a workout. Did you see the awkward platforms or none of that? And then Kyle Bowler is the same thing. Yes, he threw the ball from the 50 yard line on his knees to the goal post.


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[Assistant] That is not 70 throws of unbelievable movement, explosiveness, awkward throws, and throws that guys haven't done in their pro day workouts, and he did it consistently through the workout.


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[Assistant] Like, Trey, who I know is, knows his football and all that. I'm just, if he was here with me right there, I would have said the same thing. I'm just trying to say that. That's not the same. That's not fair to Zach Wilson to compare.


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[Assistant] Basically one trick shot guys to a guy who just came out and was like, no, I just Steph Curry'd it and was shooting 40 foot bombs and 40 foot


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[Assistant] Like shoot it and turn around and look before the ball. Like that's what he was doing on the consistent, let alone going swish, swish, swish, swish. Those other guys just went to half court one time and went, look, I could, I could shoot a half quarter.


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[Assistant] And it went in and they, oh, well, okay, great. This guy is like going through the back, through the legs, you know, shooting at 70 feet in the air, swish. Oh, line drive, swish. I mean, so that's to me the difference if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] You know, I understand what he was saying. Again, you know, he first just wanted to go, what was so special about the workout? You know, he said something like, it looked like Trevor Lawrence is to me. I go, I don't, Trevor Lawrence didn't make one awkward off-platform throw. His workout was really good. Don't, don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] But like that, that's not even fair to compare that to Zach Wilson. You're doing Zach Wilson injustice for me in that category. And then, then, then he kinda just went, well, it's only in shorts and blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] And I went, okay, yeaah, it's only in shorts, I get that. But when it's in shorts, and then what you see on film is also happening, you get excited. Cause you go, woah, this guy can do these crazy things just like, all the time.


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[Assistant] Well that, thank you. That was, that's the next thing. Like, you know, yeaah. And then he made a comment about, well, you know, there's more than arm strength or something like that. Yeaah. And I understand that. Yes. But arm strength, first off, is a pretty good precursor for some of the great quarterbacks of all time.


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[Assistant] I mean, we've had this discussion, whether it's Mahomes, Rodgers, Dan Marino, Elway, Bradshaw. I mean, you can just go through the test of time and go, most of the really great quarterbacks in the history of our sport


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[Assistant] You know, Mahomes and Josh Allen and Rogers are who they are right now because of their arms. Plain and simple. So yes, I'm into that. And I made the point to him like,


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[Assistant] I'm into DBs who run fast, right? So, and that's to your point. Like, okay, so if we're not going to gush about the workout and just take it for what it is, then no more gushing about


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[Assistant] Whoa, this receiver ran 4-2-9 or this DB ran 4-2-9 and ran a 6-7-1 and three cone and had a 3-9-9.


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[Assistant] Just in shorts, doesn't really matter. Like, no, that has value to the game.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter. Well, exactly. So we all pay attention to that stuff. Yeaah. And how like a big defensive tackle, you know, moves through the pads during a workout and all that. Yeaah. Yeaah. I mean again, I'm not going, well, he's the first pick of the draft because of the way he moved through the pads. Look at that guy. You're combining it with what you've seen. I'm combining it. But it's a part of it. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] I think there was probably, that was enough. I think the teams that like liked him or just went away and went, man, it's everything we thought. It was more of a confirmation then.


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[Assistant] The ones who have Trevor 1 and Zach 2 or something like that, I think they come away just going.


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[Assistant] I still take Trevor because of everything he's done and his size and all that, but woah, that was, that was pretty awesome to watch.


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[Assistant] You know, all you've been told is Fields and Trevor Lawrence for the last two years. Really since both of them came out of high school. Yeah. It was, they're the number one guys. This is it. And then they got on a team and you just go,


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[Assistant] Well wait, the team wins and they're there, so it's them. Confirms what we thought before. It confirms what we said, it confirms the perception out there, all of those type of things. So, yeaah, it seems like people are more like butt hurt and like personally assaulted.


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[Assistant] That's how you hit in the draft. Agreed. And, and you know, being able to wait, okay, alright, hey, here's, here's four defense ends that are real good.


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[Assistant] You know, and what's the difference in value between all four? Oh wait, it's great. The first one's way better than the fourth. Okay, let's pick him when it's time to pick our defense end. Oh wait, the fourth is just a smidgen behind the number one guy and we got them all close together.


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[Assistant] Or maybe we can trade down in doing that. Yes, knowing the value of the draft overall and knowing what you like personally as a evaluator, a coach that's gonna fit your team.


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[Assistant] You know, let's just say the top 40 teams in foot, the top, all the teams in football, they have, let's just say there's 40 guys on their big board. Like you're, you're trying to talk about here. You know, of those 40 guys, I mean, most of the teams are going to have a very similar 40.


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[Assistant] You know, and most of them have a very similar ten, top ten probably. But after that, that's where you get into


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[Assistant] Oh, this guy, this team's got him 15, this guy's got, this team's got him 27. You know, and that's the beauty of the draft. There's gonna be some differences there within that range as far as who you like, what you need for your team, how you view that guy to fit in your system and all of those type of things. And that's what's gonna be interesting.


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[Assistant] There was one other thing. Oh, but that's to me, one of my pet peeves too with like the quarter, like there's so many rules with the quarterbacks right now. Like, no, this is what we're told. We're supposed to tank for Tua. That's, that's what we're supposed to do. And it's, and Trevor's the guy that's, we've been told that.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, it drives me crazy too with the quarterback thing, cause sometimes I'll, you know, I'll try to say that. Like sometimes people can see it in college and sometimes where you just go, no, no, no, wait.


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[Assistant] You know, if we put this quarterback on this team, right, if we put Justin Herbert on Clemson the last few years, they would have been just as good, everybody. Like, relax. And some people can see that and do that. But then when you get into the NFL,


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[Assistant] You can't do that sometimes. I don't know if I'm explaining this right. My pet peeve is this more than not. Like a little bit with the NFL quarterbacks where sometimes you hear me go like, well I think if you put Aaron Rodgers on the Patriots, they would have won more Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] Right. But like, people get really mad when you say that at an NFL level. Yeah. And I guess what I'm saying is, we do it every year in the draft.


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[Assistant] And yet people just go, well yeaah, okay, of course. Of course if you put Mahomes on Alabama, they'd be better. Yeaah. Where, well yeaah, okay, so why can't you do that with the pros too? We do it all the time with projecting one guy in college and going, wait, let's not, like how did John Elway at four and seven end up as the first pick of the drive? Cause everyone looked at him and went, wait,


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[Assistant] If that year we put him on Penn State over Todd Blackledge, who was also a top 10 pick, Oh, they would have been better. That's right. They would have. Yes. So I don't know what I was saying there, but I'm saying something. So I want to get to, you don't know what I was saying. No, I do. I do.


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[Assistant] This guy, CJ, he must be listening to the pod. Yes. Because, uh, I agree with his list. I think so, right? You know, I'll say this is where I'm a little different, alright?


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[Assistant] And again, I'm gonna come off as a hater for saying this. Uh oh. I would put, I would put Fields and Lance in front of Tua. Wow. Okay, so I would have Tua 9 and then I would have Fields at 7 and Lance at 8. I would. Again, I know, I'm not the biggest Tua guy in the world. I'm not. Uhm.


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[Assistant] That would probably be my difference. It's a really close one, because Tua is...


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[Assistant] You know, of course there's a little bit more pro ready and all of those things, but as you know, I said last year and even just going into this year, and I know it's not fair to evaluate him as a pro a little bit, but


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I worried about his ability to do special things on the pro field. And I still worry about that. You know, I need to see more to buy into that.


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[Assistant] I think it's all about them positioning themselves for the wide receiver. Okay. I would be shocked if it's not for that.


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[Assistant] The team as a whole with the Miami Dolphins, they really have no glaring desperate need, other than just they need a playmaking receiver. Devontae Parker's real good, you know, but he does have an injury history. You know, Preston Williams popped up a little, I know, but then he got hurt last year too.


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[Assistant] You know, so I would think it's about a wide receiver in general. And as I said during my wide receiver rankings, I think it's really close between Jamar Chase or Devontae Smith. You know, I would have a hard time thinking that the teams that need a receiver aren't looking at it that way to a degree going, whoa, I mean, it's, they're both studs.


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[Assistant] I think if you're Miami, you get back, you know, they get back to number six and now they're in a spot where I think they probably look at it like, okay, we know the top three are going quarterback. Atlanta at four, they have a lot of needs, right?


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[Assistant] Now we think they might go train Lance quarterback or anything like that, but I think the one thing they probably look at and go, I doubt they're in the receiver market. They got Calvin Ridley. They got Julio Jones. I don't know if they're going to do that right now, right?


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[Assistant] You know, so now you look at the bangles. How cool would that be? Well, I mean, that would be something. But then you look at the bangles at five and go, okay, well maybe they could take a receiver. They could. Maybe they want to go all in on just the, the arsenal with Joe Burrow and just dice you up that way.


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[Assistant] And now they look at it and go, okay, then we get the other receiver we don't want. But I would think it's all about the receiver and trying to give to us somebody who's explosive out on the outside that can make some plays and take some pressure off that offense in general.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, I would think it's Jamar Chase or Devontae Smith. I think it's really close between those two. As I said during, it's almost 1A, 1B. And I did not expect to say that. I thought there would be Jamar Chase as a clear cut winner.


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[Assistant] You know, I think when you talk about just the pure speed, Davante Smith has that over him. And the route running footwear.


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[Assistant] Let's get a more physical specimen with Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase is a little bit more of a physical specimen, right? Strength, what he can do after the catch, some of that.


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[Assistant] You know, there's, there's, yes, you're not going to have the frail issue. You know, the one thing that's going to come with Devante Smith is if you draft him in the top 10 and he gets hurt next year,


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[Assistant] You're gonna have to hear it. So teams are gonna definitely be thinking that a little bit about him when they draft him.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I mean I think the big thing with the Eagles more than anything, like linebacker, I haven't got to linebackers yet either, so I haven't, I don't have a good feel for that. Now they're a team that's...


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[Assistant] You know, you could look at everything else and go, kinda needs an upgrade. Everything. So there are a little bit in the, we could take the best player available.


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[Assistant] Type of situation also within that too. The trade down was great for them because of course they, they're more than one pyre away or anything like that. They need, they need picks. They're in, they're in a rebuild mode.


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[Assistant] So, linebacker certainly makes sense. And I'm excited to watch this kid from Penn State. I really am. You know, I would think pass rusher could also be in the conversation there at 12. I've watched, I mean, the pass rushers, I think there's a few guys that are, you know, in that conversation. Wide receiver?


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[Assistant] Of course there's a need there for the football team. I think that takes them out of the Devontae Smith-Jamar Chase conversation. Whether they got into the Waddle or Diami Brown, like I like conversation, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, either way, I think it's, I think it was a right move for them because of the amount of holes they needed, they needed filled. So again, I don't know if there's one player I could sit here and point at specifically.


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[Assistant] To tell, to tell our question right now. But I think more than not, it's just more about big picture.


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[Assistant] Not one guy's gonna fix the team. Let's get picks. And, you know, there should be somebody really good that's gonna help.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, listen, I mean, we'll see what Jalen Watto runs at his 40 today. I mean, certainly, but yeah, I was surprised by that time. There's no doubt. I did not think it would be that type of speed. Now,


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[Assistant] You know, what's different as compared to like other guys you talk, like again, the film doesn't say that.


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[Assistant] So that's where I go back and yeaah, I don't like that it's, it is an adjusted four or five type of speed when you talk about taking a tenth off at your pro day. There's no doubt, it's not a laser. But man, the film is, like I said, and I wrote down, high four threes, four fours, there's nobody that can run with them.


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[Assistant] So that's where you're gonna have to take that into account as an evaluator. Which one are you gonna favor? I don't know. Let me see this guy in person. Maybe he's just not the best at getting out of a three point stands. I don't know. You know, maybe there's other factors into that.


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[Assistant] I will be shocked if he does not go in the first round, okay? I will be shocked by everything we saw. I don't even know all his numbers from the pro day and all those type of things. Now, you know, what our guy asked in there, listen,


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[Assistant] I could be wrong. I understand that. Don't get all mad at me about the Jalen Waddle thing. I get it. Jalen, I like Jalen Waddle a lot. I just, I favor guys who can play outside a little bit more.


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[Assistant] You know, yes, if Watto goes out there and runs 4-2 in his pro day, and it's an adjusted 4-3, like I say, yeaah, it'll make me think a little differently. There's no doubt that it's gonna make me think a little bit differently.


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[Assistant] You know, I know there's been some people on social media that showed me like one guy showed me a video of him and Henry rugs being neck and neck in a 40 yard race. All those type of things either way with Jalen wattle.


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[Assistant] I, I, him being on the outside running go routes is not gonna be why a team drafts them. It's gonna be the fact that


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[Assistant] He is an unreal route runner. He's explosive and as quick as hell in and out of cuts and everything like that. Let alone, he has some of the outside value. But he is a smaller guy that way too. Uhm, I really like Jalen Waddle. Yeaah. But that will change it. Might change my thought a little bit.


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[Assistant] Like, I know we don't have enough time in these podcasts to bring up these guys, but he'd be one of those guys again where I'd go, you know, I talked about it a little bit to go,


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[Assistant] And maybe not 27 guys in the first three rounds or whatever like last year. There are 30 top 10 wide receivers in this draft class. Right, right. Now you've heard my elite guys as far as the receiver position, but this is a guy that's in the next group down.


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[Assistant] Okay, you know, somewhere, if you want to say seven through twelve on the receiver list, you know, but, but really, I think the big thing with him is,


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure right around there, that's to me the kind of guy, you know, Amon Ra is. It's a, it's, you know, good speed, but not special. It's four, five-ish speed. You know, that way.


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[Assistant] That's where, that's where I think, but, but the route running and things he can do there, that's where I look at it going, ooh, he could be special that way.


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[Assistant] And to me, that's what he is. He's a 6-1 slot type receiver.


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[Assistant] Who's got a little value on the outside, but more I think his game is gonna be about


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[Assistant] Hey, we want you to, you know, run the five yard out, put your foot in the ground, and then come back inside. We want you to run the slant route, stop, break back outside, we'll hit you that. It's gonna be those type of routes and things that he does. I think that is gonna be his game in the NFL. I like him, uh, a lot. I just wanted to get to his page here just to make sure.


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[Assistant] That's, that's good, that's probably what you- Yeah, I think I, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just, you know, doesn't play big was the one thing I wrote, and you're not gonna get a whole lot after the catch from him. That was my big thing. And I wrote, he'll be better than the NFL than in college, and he's a bigger Jameson Crowder type of guy is what I said.


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[Assistant] More than anything. And I ended up writing third rounder. So yeaah, I think he's anywhere from late second to late third, uh, he could go. But could be useful. I think he's more made for the NFL game than he is college. Because there is the true slot role with the NFL teams that's not always there in the college game.


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[Assistant] The film shows him running low 4-3. Like I said in the breakdown last week, I have not seen a corner that big run the way he runs. In all areas. Looseness of the hips, ability to accelerate.


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[Assistant] Six gear once he's opening up. Again, I said it, really, from those, from pure corner movements and things like that.


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[Assistant] And size, it was better than Jalen Ramsey coming out. I mean, anybody who listens to me knows I love Jalen Ramsey. I got a man crush on him.


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[Assistant] I love Caleb Farré. I do think he has a chance to be one of those special island type corners.


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[Assistant] You know, who are the island corners of our generation, right? I mean, Rivas right now, you know, I'll throw a key to leave out there, you know, Patrick P, of course of that, he's got a chance to be every bit as good as one of those guys, if not better, because he's bigger than them.


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[Assistant] And way before you asked that, Caleb Farley too, he had the back surgery. That, that stings. That bothers me a little too.


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[Assistant] When did he have that? He's, it's his second back surgery. So that's a pro. And it's, it's, this is one after not playing football this year. Yeah. So that to me, I do wonder where that affects him. Like I still think he's going on the first round or anything like that for sure.


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[Assistant] But that can be the type of thing that knocks him out of the top five or something like that.


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[Assistant] Well, I could tell this, uh, you know, they're not going in round one. I don't care. Either one. No. And either whatever mock your listeners or whatever, they've mocked it wrong, okay? Okay. Uhm, Elijah Moore, just to hit on him.


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[Assistant] I do like Elijah Moore. There's no doubt. He's a slot receiver. He's 5'9", 185 pounds. He's not, has no elite trait about him though to go, oh, you're a first round pick or anything like that. No, again, this is a guy I think you see


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[Assistant] You know, okay, not, you know, not great size like we talked about. The speed isn't like, oh my gosh, wowing, like a waddle who played a similar position to him, right? I wrote, it's four or five-ish type speed, he's tough as hell, he's, you know, a true football player, alright?


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[Assistant] But he's a true slot guy, and he's not a real route runner at this point. There was no route running on his film. I think that's what scared me a little bit too. So smaller, not blazing fast, and then...


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of just even when he ran a five yard hour, I just kind of rounded it out and ran to an area or ran to that area, run to this area. And that's where I think, you know, at the end of the day, I look at it and just go, Hey, I like this kid. I'm impressed with them. And I think he has a legit place in the NFL.


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[Assistant] But I just don't think it's a first round or top 45 talent in the NFL draft as far as that's concerned. End of the first round for Greg Newsom, you're also saying no. No way, absolutely not. Cornerback from Northwestern.


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[Assistant] I know, you know, again, with corners, everybody's gotta get over, like, the production aspect. You know, everybody just looks up, well, you got interceptions, so you must be awesome, right? Not, not necessarily.


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[Assistant] I mean. Sometimes it means that the other team thought they could pick on you. It means they could pick on it. It could mean balls got tipped and you just were fortunate. You know, of course, hey, listen, you could be a good zone and just playing zone corner and doing all that type of stuff. And that's where, like, Newsome to me is that kind of player. You know, he is primarily a zone corner.


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[Assistant] They need to see that, wait, it's a big down and we need you to lock somebody down, not like, oh wow, you can drop into a third and just like everybody else on the planet, that's not what's gonna get drafted in the first round. You know, so technique, like hips, all of those were really good, alright, but there's just no high end,


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[Assistant] Like, physical ability to jump onto. I mean, again, even the acceleration, you know, top end speed, none of that is to the level of the top corners in the draft. And that's where I look at Newsom and I think really, he's probably more of a third to fourth round type of pick.


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[Assistant] Good ball skills, you know, pretty good size.


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[Assistant] But like burst ability to accelerate out of the break is nothing special and he's slow kind of in and out of transition, transition that way too. So that's where I think it's more of this is a guy that's like a well schooled technique oriented.


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[Assistant] Knows what he's supposed to do, has a good feel for the game and instincts, but not the type of elite traits that end up going in the first round of the top 50 picks. I'd be shocked if he was in the first two rounds. I think he's a third or fourth rounder.


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[Assistant] There's seven or eight guys where I go, they could be in the end of my top five. I think the top three I'm pretty clear with. I think that'll be like, there's no doubt. But four or five, there's some jostling there and I kinda gotta figure that out in my brain here the next few days.


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[Assistant] I have these conversations with people every year where we laugh because we go...


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[Assistant] He's somewhere between 20 and 45, right? And sometimes that's when you know the draft is really good though. When you start to go, there's a lot of 20 to 40, there's 40, 20 to 45 guys, right? And that's what'll be interesting. And I have, that's what I think this draft is a little bit so far. Just that's what's hit me. You know, there's,


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[Assistant] Maybe not the high end superstar talent, but a lot of guys where I go, okay, this guy's the stud at his position. He's the number one pick.


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[Assistant] Number two's awesome. Alright, number three's good. And number four is just right there with number three. And oh, number five is right there with number three. And oh, and number six is, that's where I find this draft to be kind of intriguing so far.


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[Assistant] Well done. Good timing for all the invites on the show and all that. So, running backs. How was it? The top, getting to a top five.


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[Assistant] There certainly is a mindset right now with the running backs that you don't have to take one in round one, yet there's some really big names in college football the last couple of years, Najee Harris, Travis Etienne, a couple of North Carolina kids. So we'll definitely get to the running backs, not just the list, but the do you take one in round one or do you wait till two, three, and four like we've seen a lot of in recent years?


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[Assistant] Even the last two years, we only had two running backs go in the round one. Josh Jacobs in the 20s. Right. Uh, Clyde Edwards O'Leary, 32. 32, right. It's only two years in, but do you think those were good choices?


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[Assistant] I used to get all excited watching some of these guys' draft time and Michael Lombardi worked with him at NFL Network. He used to be like, Paulie, he's making, uh, bankers and doctors and lawyers miss, okay? He's not going to be doing that on Sundays. So funny. Every single time.


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[Assistant] So Pete just made a big decision there. He said, let's get right to the running back rankings. I got a whole page of ask me anything questions afterwards. We'll do it after.


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[Assistant] A little Peter Brady-ish back there. Okay, so right, right to the running back rankings. Boom. I'm gonna go to the prospect rundown presented by Applebee. He's ahead of me. He's got it done. Sims 2021 Draft Running Back Rankings. What are you looking for?


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[Assistant] Good little starter here. What are you looking for most when you scout a running back?


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[Assistant] There are almost ever anymore. There are so many ways of looking at it. I mean, top seven running backs last year production wise, not one was taken in the first round.


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[Assistant] And last year, only one taken in the first round. We just showed that Clyde Edwards, Clyde Edwards Allaire. Twelve in rounds, two, three, and four. Twelve. And names like Jonathan Taylor, Cam Akers. You go back a couple of years, Chubb went there. I mean, there's examples. Derrick Henry is the second round pick. I think Kamara is third round.


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[Assistant] Let's take a peek at the, uh, running back rankings from last year. There you go. Uh, Edwards Lair won. You mentioned you wish you would have had Taylor, uh, at one instead of two. Dobbins did some nice things for the Ravens at three. Zach Moss for the Bills. And Yandre Swift is with the Lions. He was your fifth guy.


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[Assistant] As we're looking at those five guys or as we saw them, do you think this year's class is better or lesser than?


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[Assistant] Starting at number five, North Carolina. They had a little bit of talent on offense this past year.


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[Assistant] PFF charted in with 76 broken tackles on 157 rushing attempts in 2020. In one way, that's great. You like that kind of power and that kind of toughness. Does it worry you that he's already had that much contact? You combine that with maybe some weight concerns? How much is that Bob?


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[Assistant] For all these running backs that the scouts like a lot, but they don't have the top end speed. When they get past that, like, okay, he's not going to be a super fast guy. Do you think they'd rather have a really elusive one in the hole or someone like this with Williams? They can say, well, he's powerful.