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[Assistant] Uh, his, his emotional maturity and the fact he's, he should be the coach of the year twice now within his first four years. And he hasn't even scratched the surface of how good he can be. Like he was over the top in glowing with praise. Ultimately, it's going to come down to ownership. It's not even an Andrew question. It's an ownership question in terms of whether or not the head coach gets extended.


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[Assistant] Again, remember, Kevin was here before Andrew. Like that, no one ever, that just gets glossed over anymore, but I mean the timing of events was Kevin got here first and then Andrew came. So if anyone's gonna decide on when Kevin gets an extension, it's probably gonna be the Haslums, not even, even Andrew or Paul.


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[Assistant] Uh, certainly he should. Now's the time to do it with a year left on his deal.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I, you know, Andrew said nothing in there that makes you think that


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[Assistant] Cause at the owners meetings, there's only a handful of riders that are, that are even at that. It's not very much media. It's only probably three or four local media and they're usually all riders that attend those.


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[Assistant] And they, and Jimmy and Dee typically talk once during early in training camp. I think they spoke at the Greenbrier maybe, I don't remember now. Uh, cause I wasn't there when they did talk. But, and that's really about it. That's all you really hear from them. Uh, which I have to say is more than you hear from the other owners in town.


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[Assistant] I mean, we haven't heard from Cav's ownership since Dan's health incident.


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[Assistant] So, you know, so the Browns at least...


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[Assistant] You know, and we certainly have our qualms with, with how they run things.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he didn't, like, there's still, there's still uncertainty, and obviously there's still positions open. So, I mean, honestly, with where they're at,


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[Assistant] Probably next time that'll come up is at the combine. The staff should be in order by then. I doubt that they would hold a press conference with the GM for the OC. Maybe I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] But my, my guess would be the next time Andrew talks would be at the, at the combine.


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[Assistant] And the only other thing that stood, I mean the Flacco conversation, you know, he sidestepped, will you bring Joe back?


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[Assistant] I still, I still, he, he shot down the idea that you can't bring him back, which I disagree with. I totally still believe you cannot bring him back in that locker room.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he dismissed that and said there's, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't believe that. And, uh, he, he values the backup quarterback spot. Jay, to your point, he values it like a top 30 position on the roster and, uh,


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[Assistant] We'll see if now if they handle it as such because I don't know if you really handle it as a top 30 position.


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[Assistant] Did you really think Dorian Thompson Robinson was one of your top 30 guys last year? But again, I just think it comes down, and he said, like, we'd like to carry three quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And, you know, Zach told me they have carried three in the past on the 53. I still don't, I'd be surprised if they do.


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[Assistant] But I'm in the minority on that. A lot of people think that they're going to make some sort of move. I guess I just want to see where this magical backup quarterback comes from. And maybe it's Joe. Maybe just bring Joe back and roll the dice with it.


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[Assistant] Although I don't think that's gonna be the case. But you can't, just because you have a need, the demand doesn't always match the need. And he did say,


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[Assistant] That, uh, you know, they've spent big on backup quarterbacks in the past year and they have, you know, with Case Keenum and then with Jacobi, they've spent money on backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] But obviously they weren't paying the starter what they're paying the starter now. So that makes a significant difference in how much you can devote to the backup quarterback. So we'll see how this shakes out. We'll see if there's a veteran starter that becomes available that, uhm,


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[Assistant] And then we'll see what's left over and what gets done with Nick. And the only other thing he said about the OC is it doesn't have to be ties to Deshaun and they're looking for the best guy for the job. By the way.


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[Assistant] And when you can play man-to-man coverage and you have one receiver, we can get cute and just say, we'll take Nico Collins to move out of the game if we want to. And we can bracket and do some of those things, but I just expect the Browns to line up. Emano, Emano, and come bring this here.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'll go back and look at early in the season. You played Brock Birdie. You played guys like Lamar Jackson. You played guys like Joe Burrow. So if you're looking at it from a perspective,


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[Assistant] You're not going to play teams that are great every single week. And by the way, people think that Trevor Lawrence, uh, is a pretty good quarterback in this league and the Browns turned him over three times. So for me, I look at it as yeaah, they have not played the type of


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[Assistant] They're just looking at a list. They haven't really watched Joe Flacco play or they may see some highlights and look at the stats and say, well, what's all these picks about over here?


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[Assistant] But when you watch and you've been able to be dialed into what they're able to do offensively, I think it's very evident that Joe Flacco is somewhere inside the top 10.


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[Assistant] At least at 7, 8, you know, you put him somewhere in that range. Because he, you know, he's a dangerous person. Now if you ask me, who's the most dangerous quarterback moving right now?


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[Assistant] I say Josh Allen and I say Joe Flacco because they can give you two turnovers, but they can also give you throws and four touchdowns that other quarterbacks won't necessarily get you. I can understand the list though, Jay.


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[Assistant] I tell you what, listen, I don't know what 300 yards he's getting on these DBs. If Denzel Ward was in the game, I would have said definitely that's a possibility, but now I don't see anybody getting 300 yards on the brown secondary. Joe Flacco has been consistently throwing for 300. I think he does it again.


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[Assistant] I think they mix it up a little bit. I think you'll see them with some random no-name gangster receivers.


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[Assistant] Because really, I think the announcer will be talking about in the third quarter, wow, Nico Collins only has three targets. Are they going to get them into the game? We don't know. I just don't think they're going to get 75. They'll get something, but not 75.


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[Assistant] Listen, this game is going to be a close one. Now, you know, I usually talk about, you know what I'm saying, the Browns losing. Flacco's 300 yard air show. Browns beat the Texans 24 to 17 and they stop them on a last second drive from CJ Stroud. Wow.


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[Assistant] Hey McNuggets, good morning. What's up guys? Big show ahead. We're going to dive in our topics, but we have a crazy fan duel ticket to show you guys, to get things started today. Maybe one of the biggest and best we've had yet. We'll show you in one sec. The NFL's regular season.


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[Assistant] Has wrapped up, it's not Tivus, but Tivus is going to tell us his parlor when we talk Cavs in a little bit.


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[Assistant] An official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. And I gotta give my guy, Matt Kolker, a shout out. He sent in a couple of these before. I play basketball with Matt every week. He hit a Wendy Part, Harley.


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[Assistant] Turn $10 into $1100. A 20 part parlay, all 20 parts hit. He had the Cavs, the Magic, the Spurs, the Sixers, the Raptors, the Grizzlies. Four different same game parlays, all put into one.


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[Assistant] 20 parts, 10 bucks into $1,100. Shout out to Matt for hitting that big win.


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[Assistant] We'll dive into this all in overtime, but there is some truth. At the end of the day, Giannis and Adrian Griffin didn't see eye to eye. The team went with the player over the coach and Adrian Griffin. Did we just talk about it, Mike?


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[Assistant] So make sure you guys tune in, but to the question today and at least the soundbite we played. He makes it seem like there could be a...


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[Assistant] You talk about the wide receiver cupboard potentially being Baron, Nick Chubb uncertainty, Deshawn's uncertainty.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski play call may not. There are 13 open offensive coordinator jobs in football right now. We'll run through them real quick. The Browns, the Seahawks, the Bengals, the Saints, the Bills, the Raiders. Next, Steve.


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[Assistant] So if you want to take them out for the sake of this, we can take the bills out because I think we're all on the same page that Joe Brady will end up being. So I guess for the sake of this, let's go with the 12 offensive coordinator jobs open outside of Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Where does the Cleveland offensive coordinator job rank among those 12? Is it in the top half, top 3, the top 1, the bottom half?


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[Assistant] The 13 listed, we're taking out Buffalo. Cleveland, Seattle, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Las Vegas, New England, Washington, Atlanta, the Chargers, Carolina, Tennessee, and Pittsburgh. I got the Browns third. I got the Browns third. Cincinnati and the Chargers are both ahead of Cleveland.


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[Assistant] We can add one more to the equation. Steve, uh, Steve Becker's right, Philadelphia also is going to have an open OC job. The Browns is fourth. Is Sirianni gonna survive in Philly? It looks like he is. Sirianni's gonna survive, but he's gonna have to do a coordinator overhaul.


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[Assistant] And the Cavs are looking to extend their winning streak to nine games tonight, but before we talk about the game, there was a rumor last night put out by...


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[Assistant] We're going to do the, the trade rumor first, then we'll talk about the game. And Ty, I want to hear your 14 part parlor that's guaranteed to hit tonight. But David Benman put out a report that the Los Angeles Lakers have interest in trading for Donovan Mitchell. Now that's not the first time we've seen a trade rumor for Donovan Mitchell, but this one seems a little, uh,


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[Assistant] Little out there. I also want to put it on the record that I'm interested in a 10 million dollar raise next year. Will I get that? Will the Lakers get Donovan Mitchell? It is highly unlikely, but because...


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[Assistant] This is what we do in Ultimate Clean The Sports Shop. Put together a couple of trade packages. One real and three totally fake.


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[Assistant] Any of these Mitchell to Lakers mid-season rumors are. So this is the one that would be real. If the Lakers were to really attempt to acquire Donny Mitchell. You shouldn't let us guess!


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[Assistant] So to my point, and this is why it's not going to happen. This is the best realistic offer the Lakers could put together for Donovan Mitchell. And it is.


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[Assistant] D'Angelo, Russell, Rui, Achimora, their first round pick, Jalen Hood, Shafino, and a first round pick or two, which they don't even have till 2028 or 2029. Which is a giant nothing burger. You would never take that in a million years. That's the only realistic trade package. Well that's insulting. Yes.


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[Assistant] The interim coach for 12 hours, I guess, cause Doc Rivers has now agreed to be the head coach.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. They've been unbelievable. Obviously the 8 game win streak, their offensive numbers, defensive numbers, they're the number one rebounding team in basketball since December 15th. They've been incredible.


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[Assistant] A new coach. Obviously the interim coach energy always exists. It's in Milwaukee. We talked about the schedule they've played. You can't control the schedule, but they haven't beaten any juggernauts on this 8-game win streak. Tyvis, I know you have a parlay, so we'll end this segment with your parlay, but Giannis is your favorite player in the world.


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[Assistant] He bought 25%, it's an undisclosed amount. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna read the exact line from the ESPN article. I don't know the math on my head, but the Haslums who own the, this is a quote from ESPN. The Haslums who own the NFL's Browns have reached an agreement to purchase approximately 25% of the bucks from Lazry for 3.25 billion.


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[Assistant] Definitely a tough situation. We got Sean Merriman joining us in 15 minutes to talk all things Browns and football. We got one more topic we got to get in before Sean. So if you're watching the show, we appreciate you guys. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. You'd be amazed at how much that does for UCSS on the back end of YouTube. Just hit a simple like, a simple subscribe. It is completely free and we really, really appreciate it.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, while we have you here, we'd be remiss not to talk Ohio State. And, uh, Jay talked about spending. Well.


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[Assistant] Ohio State certainly did that intros this offseason. Their portal class is tops in the country. Uh, Bull put it on Twitter. I think it's accurate. They have spent more than the Cleveland Guardians have this offseason.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, let's talk about the, uh, incoming portal class for the Buckeyes. How'd they pull it off? And how much pressure is on Ryan Day to get it done?


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[Assistant] For Mississippi State. He was Ole Miss. He led the SEC in rushing and rushing touchdowns as a true freshman two years ago. I think he was second in the SEC. He has a ton of carries.


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[Assistant] We talk about running backs, the carries. He ran the ball a ton as a freshman, sophomore, but he was the number one rated running back in the transfer portal. He's a two time all sec player. He comes with a very, very decorated pedigree and resume. He's already done it against great


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[Assistant] This weekend, uh, it's actually, it's coming up, but it's the lights out 14. It's on February 16th, not this weekend. I got my dates wrong. It's next month, but it's coming up on Fubo pay-per-view. They have some highlight star studded main events and Sean Merriman is here to talk a little bit more about that and the NFL playoffs, the Browns and much more. So let's welcome in our guy Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] I got a, I got a fan duel read to set you up, Tyvis. Uh, one note of business beforehand, Gerard Johnson, who interviewed for the Browns offensive coordinator job, just interviewed today with Philadelphia as well. So he's a hot commodity. Tyvis is going to give us his parlay for tonight's Cavs bucks game.


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[Assistant] An official partner with The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show in Tivus. Let's hear your parlay for tonight.


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[Assistant] And no Tristan Thompson. Uh, guys got a couple super chats real quick, then we can finish. Tyvis, if you win that parlay, please let us know. We will feature it on the show.


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[Assistant] That was a great hero. We're going to do it for overtime. We're going to do True or False in overtime. Last one, Michael McGee also says G. Bush takes fashion tips from Cam Newton. All he needs is the hat. Got a hat. I got multiple hats.


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[Assistant] FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL. I'll show you guys a winning ticket later in the show, but we have breaking news here. Mary Kay just tweeted one second ago,


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[Assistant] In Berea for an offensive coordinator interview today, as well as Brian Johnson, the former Eagles offensive coordinator who was fired.


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[Assistant] Brian Johnson, let's talk, he's in for an interview. They've already completed all their, uh, they've completed their Rooney Rule requirements, so they're allowed to offer any candidate at any time. Brian Johnson, Eagles fans were thrilled that he was let go. Steve Beck, our EP, was doing dances, that he was doing the Irish jig allegedly as soon as they let him go.


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[Assistant] Does he excite you as an offensive coordinator candidate potentially? Then we'll talk Kellen Moore real quick, then we'll talk about the fancy golf place. It all goes hand in hand.


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[Assistant] Part of that G is Shane Steichen, who we just saw in Indianapolis, get the most out of Gardner Minshew in a way we didn't expect. He was calling plays for Jalen Hertz last season. He goes, you lose your, I don't want to call him a superstar coach, but he was, as a rookie coach, did a phenomenal job in Indianapolis. They go to Brian Johnson at the whole offense.


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[Assistant] I do want to say the Eagles have also requested permission to interview Kellen Moore. So not just the Browns, but the Eagles who just fired Brian Johnson are now looking to bring in Kellen.


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[Assistant] You talk about play-callers. Kevin Stefanski has been the play-caller for the Browns for the last four seasons. They've interviewed some candidates, as Jason just alluded to, of half-call plays in the past, some who have not.


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[Assistant] You could add more, you could add Johnson to the list, but the question for here is, and we'll start with this one cause it's a two parter.


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[Assistant] I will say real quick Jason, Mary Kay just tweeted that Kevin Stefanski, this is a quote from Mary Kay, Kevin Stefanski would likely have to turn play calling duties over to Kellen Moore to lure him here as an offensive coordinator. I'd rather have Kevin Stefanski calling plays than Kellen Moore. So what do we need Kellen Moore for?


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[Assistant] Do you know how many times it's ever happened?


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[Assistant] Rivera, right? Bruce Arians, most recently, two times in four years. So if Stefanski wins it this year, it'll be the second time in four years. Bruce Arians in 2012, 2014, Mike Dickett, 85, 88, Joe Gibbs, 82, 83. They gotta go all the way back to Ali Shuman, uh, Sherman, Don Shula and George Hallis. All right. That's it.


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[Assistant] A family of ultimate shows. G. Bush will be hosting the Ultimate Browns.


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[Assistant] We're looking for a Ultimate Guardians host. Jason and myself are hosting the Ultimate Cav show and Earl the Pearl is hosting the Ultimate 216 show. That's going to be a daily show once a week for each of them, but we'll have five days of content.


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[Assistant] It's gonna air in the nighttime, not from 1101. You're not gonna miss any UCSS content, but some more team specific shows are coming to a YouTube feed near you guys very, very, very soon. We're excited about that. The first one is the Ultimate Cav Show on February 2nd, so make sure y'all tune in.


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[Assistant] We talked about all the coaching changes, what could happen, the open jobs. One job we know is filled now is the Brown's running back position. Deuce Staley has agreed to become the Brown's new running back coach, replacing Stump Mitchell, who had his media tour on the way out.


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[Assistant] It's a position coach, they already have Nick Chubb, so for the sake of this discussion, let's all assume Nick Chubb gets back to 100%. What do you think, if anything, do Stanley can unlock that we haven't seen from Nick Chubb yet?


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[Assistant] All right, Mike. We're talking Miles Garrett here in a sec and he was just named literally in the last 45 seconds, one of the five finalists for the NFL's defensive player.


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[Assistant] The finalist came out, Kevin Stafanski, also finalist for coaches of the year. Any others for the Browns? Probably not.


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[Assistant] The, uh, NFL just announced its finalist for its awards. Miles Garrett, one of the five finalists for Defensive Player of the Year, alongside TJ Watt, Michael Parsons, Max Crosby, and Daron Bland, the defensive back for the Cowboys, who had the pick six record this season.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, before we knew Miles was officially a finalist, he was named the Pro Football Writers Association Defensive Player of the Year. He's been the PFF.


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[Assistant] Defensive Player of the Year, oh, Assistant Coach of the Year, Jim Schwartz is one of the five finalists alongside Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald, Todd Munkin, and Bobby Slowick.


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[Assistant] Oh, here's coach of the year. Stefanski, Shanahan, D'Amico, Ryan, John Harbaugh, and Dan Campbell.


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[Assistant] And I still don't see Comeback Player of the Year, so I'll keep a look out for that.


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[Assistant] But you're allowed to make up a final. You're the best team in the league. Yeaah. But Bull, let me ask you this question. I want to start with you because I know you are going to start us off in a direction I want this to go. Miles has been, the two awards so far has been named PFF Pro Football Writers Association.


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[Assistant] Is he a lock for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year? And should he be? Because I know you have asked some questions. Uh, he is a lock.


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[Assistant] Uh, like on the fly. I will say one thing in the whole conversation about should he be a lock, should he not be? If you want to say he's not gonna win or doesn't deserve to win, there has to be a person who does. That's the other part of this. And you can have Miles, and it's fair to say his numbers have tailed off and the sacks down the stretch, his pressure numbers were fine, but if it's not Miles, who?


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[Assistant] Uh, Trey Hendrickson, same draft class. Not as many sacks, but he is the epitome of consistency.


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[Assistant] He goes 14, 15, 13 and a half, 13 and a half. Almost dead consistent. Pretty steady.


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[Assistant] Daniel Hunter, same age range as Miles Garrett, 20, 22 and a half, 20, 23 and a half, and then one and a half in January. What about Michael Parsons? I'll get to Parsons in a sec. Aaron Donald, who's different position, but 17, 32, 25, 36 and a half.


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[Assistant] I have to, I'll sort it. And last one, you asked for Micah Parsons. He goes nine and a half, seven, sixteen, six and a half. But he's only played three seasons.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to do a deeper dive on this bowl. That was just the preliminary. I could sort sacks super quickly. I'll do a deeper dive this summer. We'll dive into maybe why it happens if the pressure is at the same trend and whatnot. I wasn't ready to release all this. I think we all agree he will win the award though, don't we?


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[Assistant] Bo, last thing and then we'll go on to the Cavs, but uh, this year, just 2023, he had four sacks in September, two sacks in October, five and a half in November, one and a half in December, and one in January. So slightly up.


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[Assistant] We mentioned it earlier, I'll mention it again. There are Ultimate Team Shows coming out next month. There's an Ultimate Guardian Show, which hopefully will be TVD. An Ultimate Brown Show, which will be hosted by G. Bush. The Ultimate Cavs Show will be myself and Jason Lloyd talking Cavs. And the Ultimate 216 Show is Earl the Pearl doing a little culture sports combo, so make sure you guys check those out. Coming to you next month.


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[Assistant] The Cavs had their win streak snapped last night to the Milwaukee Bucks. Definitely a little bit of a different test than they had seen in the previous eight games. The Cavs missed some shots. Giannis went crazy under some pretty wild circumstances with their coach being fired just the day before. Jason, you're in here to talk Cavs.


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[Assistant] Did we learn anything about the Cavs yesterday? Was anything exposed? Anything, uh, worth noting to keep track of as this Cavs team gets ready to head towards the upcoming All-Star break?


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[Assistant] This was more a confirmation than something we learned, but you look at that 8 game win streak, we were so excited about the offense. Well eventually they weren't gonna shoot 43% as a team from 3, and when you're not making shots, you need a secondary creator on the court, and that's where Darius Garland comes back into play. That's exactly what G said, yea. And we, yea, and G, G kinda alluded to it, and we had talked about,


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[Assistant] You know, hypothetical trades and moving guys around, but.


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[Assistant] Last night proved Darius Garland has a crucial and needed role in this offense because it can't all be on Donovan and as good as Sam Marillis, as good as Struces, as good as Neangs played. Levert not fully in that category. They're great complementary offensive pieces, but they're not creators.


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[Assistant] I think he's a much better help defender than he is an on ball defender.


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[Assistant] Wait, Jason, real quick, when I say he's a better off-ball defender, Giannis is a much better off-ball defender than on-ball defender, too. That's not even necessarily a knock on him being a bad defender, like by any means. I just think he's better when he's not the point-of-attack guy, and you have to worry about Evan Mobley coming from outside of the picture to swat a shot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're going to do super chats. Matt, if you want to stick around for super chats, they'll take one minute. Then we'll get you out of here. We only have four today. First one comes from Josh Harris, who said, John Harris, who says Kevin got here before and had, and had to run his playbook by Jimmy before each game. I'm not sure if that's still true.


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[Assistant] That's, that's really- Okay. Next Super Chat comes from TheGuard16.


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[Assistant] Charles T says, I hope Stefanski keeps play calling. Fans and media are now comfortable with him. I'm not ready to hear. Fire the OC every play call next season. And inside Omari, last one says,


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[Assistant] I'm on the way to Mexico right now and I'm watching this show from 30,000 feet in the air. I have to say you guys never miss, love the show, keep up the good work. So Amari, we appreciate y'all. And we've got overtime coming up here in a few minutes.


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[Assistant] You meanin' to tell me, Miles Garrett, you got a 12-year-old back there, he just got a library card. Like, he, he talkin' about big, these guys talk about Alabama versus Auburn and Michigan versus, man, y'all grown ass men, playin' all kind of taxes. Y'all got wives, kids.


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[Assistant] That people is putting up 18 and 19 year old kids against y'all. They don't, they still living with their parents on a rookie deal. And these dudes are talking about you. Listen, you got CJ Stroud.


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[Assistant] Hey listen, I welcome CJ Stroud every single week and twice on Sunday. Like, I'ma tell you what, you got John, we already got Did Dirty by John Elway back in the day when he was young, Elway.


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[Assistant] Yo, that's what that- people talk about CJ Stroud like he's on their way.


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[Assistant] They be like, listen, you don't want to see no smoke with CJ Stroud. But guess what? It's an opportunity for y'all to do something. Y'all been crying for it for years. Let's go out here and get it done. We on the road. You playing a nice little team. And this is why I can care less.


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[Assistant] That was funny. That was so funny because I'm a big Bobby Brown new addition fan and I never thought that I would ever be at a position where someone said you look like him. So what I did is I set it up for him. So y'all want me to be Bobby Brown? You gotta lean into it sometime. Uh oh, what do you got? So uhm, you know, I got the maparagas ready to go.


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[Assistant] Stop playing around with your boy. You thought, we're double, I stand on what I said. And not only did I stand on what I said, I'ma do it in style. The Cleveland Browns is ready to go. You gotta double down on it. Shout out to Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] But the thing about Bobby Brown was, he didn't gain that national notoriety until he came with the, uh, uh, uh, my prerogatives. He didn't come with the Tinderonis yet. So then when he hit that level, he was multi-platinum status. Solo star. Solo star. Bobby Brown. Browns is going solo this week.


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[Assistant] Yes, without a doubt. And we talk about it all the time. We talk about how regular season is regular season, postseason is postseason. All the stats start over. All of that is true. Yea, you're 0-0 now. Now it's win however you gonna win. Right. And one thing that you really understand and you start to see is when you get into playoffs, that intensity ratchets up to a point where


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[Assistant] This ain't college and it's not even regular season. The speed of the game.


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[Assistant] It starts to increase. Now instead of guys taking one pass rush off, guys aren't taking pass rush off. They're going as hard as they can, tap the helmet and come on out.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be fighting for every inch, every first down, and the great part about it is when you ask who would you rather take, and I always use this analogy of people.


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[Assistant] Cause people, they're like, oh, you know, uh, you don't, you're not really putting it in perspective. CJ Stroud is, is, is bald all year. Why would you say that Joe Flacco has some sort of advantage over him? I look at it like this. Like, we sit on this, on this panel all the time.


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[Assistant] You know, you guys, you know, when I got here, I did this for, you know, you know, on the internet, right? But it's different before doing it on the internet and saying, live, go.


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[Assistant] It's different from having time to set your stuff up to finding out where you get your voice out in the comments. And if you go to any venue, the great thing about a veteran is if I asked Adam the Bull or Jay Crawford, hey, listen, I'm in a pinch. I need you to come over here and give me a speech. I need you to come over here and introduce somebody. I need you to come over here and MC an event. They don't even need no notes. They don't need no notes. They done it so long, so often that it's like, all right, well, let's go.


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[Assistant] But they, but you get the point. Now you take them and you say, okay, well let me go get somebody who's two years in the game and does part time.


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[Assistant] That's different. You get up there and start stumbling, bumbling. It's easy. That's what I look at in Joe Flacco and that's why he's able to throw a couple of picks in games because guess what? He's gonna come back right and throw the ball like he never threw a pick before and that's how he can keep his people in the game.


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[Assistant] Nico Collins is not getting the ball this game. We got two on him and we got two really good ones on him. So let's see if you're patient enough to dunk it to Dalton Scholes. Let's see if you're patient enough to stick with the run game and not force anything. Let's see for four quarters, can you make the right read under pressure and not force nothing?


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[Assistant] I was doing some research yesterday. Uhm, we've been talking about the narrative that Joe Flacco wants another opportunity because he thought he was out of the league. I found this comment that Ray Lewis had when Ray Lewis retired. It was in 20, let's see, 26, yea 2016.


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[Assistant] Now mind you, they played together from 2008 until 2012. They won the Super Bowl. He carried them.


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[Assistant] And I think he's haunted by the way he's perceived in the league, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it talks about it, it says, uh, Ray Lewis publicly questioned the passion of Joe Flacco, uhm, when he was asked why the Baltimore Ravens quarterback has been so inconsistent this season. He says, uh, and this is Ray Lewis talking about Joe Flacco, he says, gifted? Sure. Absolutely. Passion about what he, what he do in the game? I've never seen that.


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[Assistant] Lewis told Fox Sports, uh, one on Thursday, I don't know, uh, what that looks like. And he's talking about in terms of whether or not Joe Flacco is passionate about what he does. Uhm, and you know, Lewis, uh, said that Flacco isolates himself.


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[Assistant] On the bench after a big play. We've seen it here. And he said he believes, believes more emotional players like Steve Smith need to coax Flacco into showing more emotion. Which he has shown a lot


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[Assistant] Uh, the pen of a scholar is way more than the blood of a martyr.


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[Assistant] Like when you write the narrative, that's, that cements you. When four or five people- That's legacy bombs. That's done. Yeah. So not very many people get the opportunity to come back.


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[Assistant] And rewrite their legacy. He's writing a post script. He's like, hold on, these are contemporaneous notes, hold on. I wrote this, I got a chance to show not only, and here, if you ask Joe Flacco, if you pull him aside,


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[Assistant] And you ask him, cause I didn't even notice, me and my dad do this little game where, you know, we say, what player is this? How many yards they got? So we were going down a list of most all time yards and I was asking him blind, can you give me the top 20? How many do you do? And Joe Flacco's in the top 20. And a lot of those records, if you pull him aside and say, do you feel like you're a Hall of Famer? He'd probably see a man say, yeah, I'm a Hall of Famer. But he's not. No, he's not now. He's not now. However. Yeah.


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[Assistant] However. Yeah, no, there's a big however. The however is, I got a shot. And when you get in the playoffs and you feel like you got a second life,


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[Assistant] He's saying, okay, well let me see what y'all think it'll be now. If I take this team, with this city, in this roster, now you gotta revisit a few things, right?


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[Assistant] But I will say this, if he, if he drags. They're all about to come back. If he drags and elevates. See LeBron understood this. When he won in Cleveland and was the first to get that title, that was worth three rings. By itself is worth three. Felt like it. Now, Joe Flacco does it in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] For me, it doesn't, but I don't know, you put it does. Uhm, I'm not going to dismiss it totally.


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[Assistant] If, when you, you gotta lie to yourself when you get to a certain level, right? You just lie and say, oh, this is just, I've been here before, I've had big games. Now, I don't think he's going to fall apart mentally, like,


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[Assistant] His, his background and just by his father being in jail and him not being able to see him in play, his story is tremendous. He's not gonna fold. He's not foldable. Now here's what it will, here's the thing, no different. Uh, we'll, we'll.


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[Assistant] Now, folding and being, being like, okay, we only got three seconds to decide or the pressure, the speed of the game and the magnitude of what the defense is giving you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, how would you, how would you attack the Browns defense if you CJ Stroud? Uhm, I thought they were aggressive coming out the gates against the Colts. I liked the beautiful throw he made. Uhm, and it just seems like he's a guy that doesn't get shaken a lot. How would you go about, uhm, you know, making CJ Stroud comfortable in this game?


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[Assistant] See, so we're about to get into this conversation later on in the show, but I want to get your thoughts on it because you're a former player.


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot of times, you know, when it comes to rewards, uh, awards talk like defensive player to your offensive player, MVP, coach of the year, those things. Mostly, you know, they give it to the media and the media votes on it and certain writers or journalists have a vote.


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[Assistant] I've always kind of had a problem with it because, you know, there's, there's been multiple years where you, I could go back and look at it and say LeBron should have had an MVP four years in a row. The fact that Kobe won it one time is ridiculous. Like, you know, you know, they use certain things, you know, narratives to disqualify or qualify people. But the pushback is.


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[Assistant] That the players wouldn't do a better job because they're not plugged into it. They wouldn't, they don't know who's good. They don't watch every single person every single game. Do you think there should be a system where the players do vote on, uhm, on awards or is it just what it is?


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[Assistant] Cecil, you're the best, man. Thanks. We'll talk soon. The direct deposit always wins.


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[Assistant] You know what's so crazy is, I look at things like Jim Schwartz, right?


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[Assistant] And I've always thought about it, you know, people talk about, okay, you have a franchise quarterback, right? And if you got a franchise quarterback, you're in there, you're good, ready to go. But I think that if you get two rushers that are dominant,


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[Assistant] If you had Miles Gare, right? And that's why people have been going so hard at finding another dude. If you had Miles Gare, think about what happens if you were to hit on Michael Parsons. Right.


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[Assistant] You're dead. You can't, like, there's, like, and so, for me, I, I look at the way you go about building a team. If I was the Cleveland Browns, we'd say we need another receiver.


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[Assistant] I mean the Browns might say, look, we're closer to being all time greats on defense than we are being on the league.


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[Assistant] Sometimes you go from, you know, the most important to the least important. You know, it's strange when you get to the back end of it. I don't know about you guys, but I don't...


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[Assistant] Tillman to me, we talk about Joe Falco, he's had at least three interceptions that's been on Tillman. Right. Just not running, running routes. Stopping routes, not defending the ball when he could. That cannot happen in the playoffs. That's why I'd rather have Elijah Moore. At least I know you're gonna run the right route.


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[Assistant] But, but you guys make good points. You know, you can be either or. But yeaah, we got, we got hatter receivers.


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[Assistant] No question. No question. I mean, you look at the defensive line, they went from that was the weakest part of their team to the strength in one season. They brought in Hearst, they brought in Shelby Harris, they got Dalvin Tomlinson, they got Sedaria Smith, they got Oba Wankeranko.


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[Assistant] You gotta give them weapons. When they come back, the funny part about it is, it's a brand new team.


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[Assistant] How often have you gotten a team to get into playoffs, they have a decent threat of winning the Super Bowl, and then you already know next year the team is completely different. That's right. At quarterback, receiver, offensive line, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] He actually, uh, he actually is an assistant coach at Rutgers with Corey.


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[Assistant] And he was a lot better player. That's why when, when I look at it, those guys work in lockstep. You can't have an elite receiver. Yeah, it's complimentary. It's a complimentary position because there's lots of guys.


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[Assistant] I always say this, listen, it doesn't do you any good. You don't get extra credit points for winning an MVP with bad receivers. That just means you play them tougher. It all goes hand in hand.


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[Assistant] Because, like, you know, when you get that match up and you get, it's a lot of personalities matching. You can throw anybody on the show, but do those personalities match? Do your personalities know how to play? Like, you know, when you're a quarterback, you gotta, I always go to Devontae Adams and, uh, and I don't want to say it very far, but Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] They had such a good chemistry. It was like, you could have two guys on them. I'm throwing that ball to Devontae Adams. Yea, when you split them up, neither was as good without the other.


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[Assistant] He was so dominant, what I did, like I watched Josh Gordon highlights every year. I just do it, I don't know why. You want to remember what the great


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[Assistant] My wife is the biggest football fan in the world right now at this point. She used to love basketball. She's like, oh no, I love football, love the Browns. And I just wanted to see how good, to the naked,


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[Assistant] I actually, actually. Was that Whedon? Brandon Whedon was the quarterback. Jason Campbell? Jason Campbell was the quarterback for a couple of those games.


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[Assistant] You know, this is stunning to me. Uhm, and I'm not gonna say that people are intentionally doing this, but let's be clear about the way things work in this echo chamber we call America.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we've been told forever that the Dallas Cloud Boys are America's team. There's a reason they're on TV every freaking week. They do ratings. There's a reason why Pittsburgh, terrible tiles wave all around the country. Trust me, when you look at that, and when you look at teams who are perennially there,


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[Assistant] Browns are never on TV. They play the one o'clock game. We do have a good national following though. They got a good national following amongst our backers. However, when it, when it comes to national guys drilling down on the minutiae of play in, play out, down in, down out.


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[Assistant] Michael Parsons had a quicker time. Yeah, which is stunning. And then so you take, here's the thing, you take a look at that and then you take a look at the eye test. Then you take a look at, you go around and ask all of the deep officer coordinators. Miles Garrett dictates what you do.


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[Assistant] He dictates- But doesn't Micah Parsons do that also? Not to the level, not to the level of Miles Garrett. See, there's my problem. When Miles Garrett has all the sacks and he gets, and he gets double teamed last year. How many have last year? 16? Yea, I think. Well, but he didn't lead the league. Last year, he gets, last year he gets double teamed the most. He has 16 sacks.


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[Assistant] Then we say, oh, well that, nah, that doesn't really mean much. But now, all of a sudden, when Michael Parsons is getting double-teamed more, now they want to point to it. How many sacks does Parsons have?


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[Assistant] No disrespect to him, and he writes, I done put my hand in the dirt before. I know what a good defense aint look like. It's asinine to say that Myles Garrett is third in any vote.


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[Assistant] He's the best defensive player on the best team all year with no quarterbacks. I don't understand how the defense can carry a team with five different quarterbacks to the playoffs. But you're getting mad proactively. Like, we don't even know he's gonna, if he wins, you got mad for nothing. No, I'm just saying his opinion is,


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[Assistant] He's, he's, like, that's like me arbitrarily saying, oh my goodness, you know what, I'm gonna put, uh,


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson is probably the MVP, right? That's like me telling Matt Saffer he the MVP. No he ain't.


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[Assistant] No, my prevailing thing is if somebody on their list puts Lamar Jackson III, they're crazy.


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[Assistant] I just, I just don't, I've always had a problem of people that write, that sit in a booth, getting to dictate somebody's career. I just don't like it. It's like, you give this guy the power to write who he likes, and then you give him a criteria, he can just pick based on what he wants.


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[Assistant] When you tell me Terrell Owens is not a first ballot hall in favor based on the way you don't like he do interviews, that is BS.


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[Assistant] I know, but here's the thing. I like this guy. If we want to, you just said it's about based on statistics. So how is it statistically, Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time.


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[Assistant] You had Jim Trestle go in there and talk to him about when he made his speech at St. John's Arena. I think it might have been value city. It might have been value city. Anyway, he comes in St. John's. He comes in and says, you're going to be proud of our guys in the classroom, proud of our guys in the community and especially proud. And when we 300 days from


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[Assistant] And if yours any time like right today, you just saw Michigan dominate. Michigan dominated.


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[Assistant] To Alabama and came back and smoked Washington. Right now, Michigan looks like the cream of the crop in the United States. And it just so reminds me of about a couple of decades ago when 1997, Michigan was rolling.


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[Assistant] They come, they go into the Rose Bowl, win that national championship, and Ohio State is scrambling. Y'all better do something.


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[Assistant] Do you guys think that, uh, in the playoffs, there's gonna be a game where you say the Browns won because of Flacco?


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[Assistant] Or, or is it more likely that you say the Browns won because of the defense?


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[Assistant] Man, we did the same thing. I think this may play a role in it.


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[Assistant] I would have said Kevin Stefanski was a slam dunk. However, watching the Texans beat the Colts, not only CJ Stroud being a rookie, best defensive player being a rookie, rookie head coach, and then they went into division to get a home playoff game. I think people are going to opt more that way. I think you're right.


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[Assistant] Think about this, right? Who was it that did this? I think it was Brady Quinn who said that. He said that, uhm, who would he say didn't go to the Manning Passing Academy?


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[Assistant] And when you go back and watch that draft, CJ Stroud was taking a lot of darts.


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[Assistant] Watch this tape. And, and you gotta think about it. I think the, uh, I think the Texans wouldn't back up.


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[Assistant] You know, there's backers already there. I think people gonna pay a bunch, and like you said,


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[Assistant] This is a good story, man. And every single week, the story keeps rolling on. Watch people come up, because look, when we get to a point where, you know, the Browns have won a playoff game,


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[Assistant] We haven't seen that in years. The COVID year to me just don't even count. We couldn't even go outside. But the city was still excited. The city was excited inside your house.


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[Assistant] Like, like, even when we went back then, we lost to the Steelers. I haven't seen no Browns win in the streets. So I think we're gonna do our thing. We're gonna show up and show out. And we'll show the Texans. Look, hey.


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[Assistant] The Browns can't do it. The Browns, y'all can't do it. They can't say it. Y'all can't say it. I'll say it for y'all. I'ma take the heat on that one. But guess what? I meant everything you saying. So y'all go to the locker room and go ahead and internalize that. I meant every single word of that. And when we win. The Bobby Brown


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[Assistant] The Bobby Brown Double Down, when we win, I'ma shake them in the hands, shake their hands, look them in the eyes and say, y'all had a good season, I appreciate y'all, y'all gonna do y'all's thing. But as for now, we'll catch y'all next week.


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[Assistant] Shout out to CJ Stroud, man. Go Buckeyes.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Joe Flacco, get it done. Miles Garrett, get it done. Denzel Ward, get it done. You know what it is.


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[Assistant] I'm coming, I'm coming with the fits. Listen, listen, I might have to do Thursday because it might not be acceptable on Friday.


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[Assistant] Ty, Ty, yeaah. Tyvis took a couple days off, he ain't want to do it.


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[Assistant] Well, I tell you what, even for me, I'm not, like, I talk trash to Tyvis because he went to Ohio State. You know, but I'm not that, uhm, I think my team's gonna win because it's my team. But what they did, the last three games of the season, by far, was impressive, even to me.


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[Assistant] That Alabama game, when the game started, you're like, oh boy, what is Alabama gonna do? Right?


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[Assistant] When that game started with Washington, and I tell you when I didn't have a worry in the world. When Michigan ran their first play.


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[Assistant] And that big offensive line walked up to the line of scrimmage. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And they took the shot from behind and I couldn't see no Washington defenders.


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[Assistant] I'm like, oh my goodness. Big boy football. And then to take it one step further. I don't know how people watch defense in college.


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[Assistant] But if you watch Michigan the last couple of weeks, that was a pro style of, uh, defense. Yeah.


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[Assistant] With all the disguises, with the guys walking up to the line of scrimmage and dropping out, with guys coming from multiple areas, with guys running games up front. That was a professional, schemed defense.


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[Assistant] It is, it is, and, and it, it's amazing how we talk about football in general, at all levels.


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[Assistant] And it still boils down to that one basic concept and every coach will tell you that. It's the point of attack. You win there, you have a chance of winning every time.


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[Assistant] Right? Because if you don't have a quarterback, if you don't have the infrastructure, you're just bound for bad things to happen.


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[Assistant] And he took that job with a rookie quarterback. I think it's, uh,


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[Assistant] If I'm not mistaken, the last time it happened was the 40s, where a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback went to the playoffs. You don't have to go back two years, Leroy. They sucked last year. Right. And so, from that standpoint, uhm, when you see these coaching jobs, I think, right now, all these coaches


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[Assistant] That should be appealing to anybody who wants to be a head coach.


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[Assistant] Competitor? I would like him to stay.


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[Assistant] And have people have to talk about him for an entire year and say, no matter what you did to me, no matter what you tried to do to us, we still persevere.


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[Assistant] And there's something to be said about that. You think he'll stay? I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't be mad if he left.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be mad at him. I get it. I get how if you just want to coach football.


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[Assistant] All the, the, the minutia wears on you and you get tired of it and you know that I'm not gonna have all this nonsense at the next level. Right? I get it. I mean, think about it. Like, of all the coaches in the world, of all the success that Michigan has not had in the last what? Since 97, right? And they asked that man to take a pay cut. How much you think that plays in?


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[Assistant] You approach it this way. You have to be ready for anything. Because there's something to be said when everybody's back is against the wall.


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[Assistant] I don't care what your record is. I don't care what your seeding is. If you lose, you go home. So everybody's playing with that same pressure.


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[Assistant] That I need to bring my best because I know this team I'm playing, playing, uh, this weekend got the same kind of pressure that we had. Now, here's the difference with Houston, right? Ignorance is bliss. Them boys just playing football. They don't have the pressures that the Browns have on them because


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[Assistant] Is the bronze to some extent or where everybody thought they would be having a chance to play in the playoffs, right? So, but Houston, their coach can go in there and say, let's just do what we do. Now, the last time Cleveland played Houston was a Will Anderson did not play. Okay. CJ Strout did not play.


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[Assistant] You just dismiss everything that you have seen.


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[Assistant] The last time you played them and know that this is a playoff team. They're playing at home. They're fired up and they're young.


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[Assistant] And they might be so young that they don't play with the pressures that you playing with in this playoff game. They just out there free-wheeling it.


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[Assistant] For different, for different reasons though, for different reasons. I think the way D'Amico-Ryans has rallied those, those young men and the way he has that quarterback playing and that defense, that, that is remarkable in his first year and what Kevin Stefanski has done.


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[Assistant] And remember, I've been saying this for the last couple of years.


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[Assistant] One of the things you can't dispute about Kevin Stefanski.


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[Assistant] And that's the only problem. Like, you get five weeks out of him and then he's hurt, he got hurt.


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[Assistant] Right? He came back after not playing for two years. Like...


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[Assistant] I think a full season of Deshaun Watson, we will see the best version of Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Right? Because. Rookie quarterbacks have a bad record in the playoffs. Wait, when that game starts. Yeah. Right? Here's what being a veteran does.


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[Assistant] When the game starts, you can settle down and play it just as a football game. You take away all the ancillary


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[Assistant] Things going on about the game. Oh, this is a playoff game. This is the biggest game my career. This is the best. You, you eliminate all that because once the game starts, you're just playing football. Younger players tend to make the circumstances surrounding the game more important than the game. And that's the only thing I'll say about that. But if you're a young player,


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[Assistant] Or you've never been in the playoffs, and you get into the flow of the game.


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[Assistant] And you just play football, then it doesn't matter. Your talent, your talent will show. Now, I would say this about CJ Stroud, and here's the only reason why I would say I'd take CJ Stroud. You see that third number?


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[Assistant] That's it. That's it. Because, because I would say this. The downfall of the Cleveland Browns is gonna be the fact that they led the league in turnovers.


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[Assistant] But here's where you look at the numbers and say, okay, what has to change for the Cleveland Browns to make a run? You're absolutely right.


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[Assistant] And I would say that one thing, I don't care about the rushing yards, I don't care about the throwing yards, but if you have that defense.


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[Assistant] And you don't turn the ball over and give the other team a short field.


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[Assistant] You got a chance to beat any team in the NFL. And guess what? There's only one team that beat the number one seed in NFC and the number one seed in the AFC. There's only one team. Only one team.


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[Assistant] I lost more games my rookie year in the NFL than I lost in high school and college put together.


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[Assistant] Because we had a home game. They did the seedings differently. The excitement of going to the stadium. Like, you, like, Bush, you know that feeling. You know that special game.


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[Assistant] You're the only show on TV, so the camera crews, the media,


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[Assistant] That dude is cool, as my man would say, cool is the other side of the pillow. Right? And that team follows him.


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[Assistant] Right, so, so, that, that plays, that plays a part in it. When you playing in front of crickets.


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[Assistant] But I think his overall mental state is just great. With how he handles himself. With how calm. No, chaos could be going on around this man. And he's just like, oh uhm, let's go play some football.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that the Browns won't get to him. I do believe the Browns will win.


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[Assistant] But I'm just saying, that guy that shows very little emotion,


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[Assistant] O-H. Hey, congratulations, man. And we'll talk next week. Alrighty.


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[Assistant] And the regular season or the postseason, as we like to call it around here, is finally underway. Welcome to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Never was I so thrilled watching a Browns beatdown.


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[Assistant] I would have guessed that he would have been. First of all, what does it say about the man who has a top five most hated list? You might be onto something, Jay.


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[Assistant] Oh, what a great final week of the season. Last night's game was very fun. Very fun. The, uh, the Bills Dolphins game. Wow.


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[Assistant] It's amazing. We didn't have a funeral for the Bills. In fact, we kept saying no one's going to want to see this team in the playoffs, but here they are. They're the two seed after all those stumbles and bumbles early on in the season. Wow.


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[Assistant] Well, let's get confirmation on that. I wouldn't be surprised.


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[Assistant] If it's 17 and 36, although I think Dan Marino won some as a rookie, Ben Roethlisberger, we've seen it, but the rule is they don't win. I would go a step further. I'd like to see a rookie head coach. And a rookie quarterback. Right, cause that's the combo. I will say though, something hit me yesterday when I was watching the beginning of that game.


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[Assistant] They're even worse against the spread. No. He said it was straight up. Yes. They're worse against the spread.


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[Assistant] They mentioned at the beginning of the game about what a great atmosphere and this is a huge atmosphere and CJ Stroud hasn't been in that atmosphere. That's completely wrong.


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[Assistant] If you watched the Georgia Ohio State game last year, that game had much more atmosphere than that Colts Texans game ever could have dreamed of. And he's been in that spot. And Ohio State Michigan games, he's been in that plenty of times. Yeaah, he's not, he is not gonna blink on that stage. Now, he's still a rookie. You count college games?


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[Assistant] I like your stat, I do, because there is something that can be gleaned from that, but I also think in contacts, and I think we all would agree with this, CJ Stroud is not your average rookie. I mean, he looked, I mean, he's gotten better each week. He was, he damn near threw a perfect game Saturday night. He was, he was impressive. Okay. Much more on that.


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[Assistant] I don't know it for sure, but it seems to me that in recent years, this is without looking it up.


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[Assistant] That the road team in that first wild card division or that wild card playoff game, they've had a lot of success, at least in my mind they have. I don't know what the numbers actually tell us.


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[Assistant] Sirianni's on the hot seat. A buddy of mine that works in Philly said...


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[Assistant] So he could probably chime in on our text chain and we can pass it along. I've got a couple of fans that are die-hard Philly fans. One of them I played the baseball tournament with in November down in Florida.


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[Assistant] He told me at the time the worm is gonna turn on the Eagles this season.


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[Assistant] I said, what? They were like 9-1 at the time, something like that. They had a great season going. He said, locker room's a mess, there's internal strife, the players are done with Sirianni's act. I'm like, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm watching it from afar. He obviously lives in Florida, but he's a much bigger Eagles fan. My god, they've completely come unglued.


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[Assistant] I got texts from two Eagles friends this morning, and they both said, if they lose, they want him out. And that's the general sentiment of the fans. Steve, you can weigh in.


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[Assistant] But well, and that's, I think, it because the Buccaneers are widely, I think, considered the worst of all the playoff teams. I think what they're saying is, but God, when you look at what they've done the last couple of weeks, look at what they did yesterday losing to the Giants.


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[Assistant] Can't be two and two. Is this the first year though that the one? No. Just the one gets the buy? No, it's been at least two if not three years.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Browns were a lower seed in 20 and they won at Pittsburgh. But again, with no fans, you really lose that home field advantage. It doesn't play as much.


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[Assistant] So you're right, there is precedent. Yeah, it feels in my mind, it feels like I remember a lot of lower seeds winning in that first round. And hey, you know, I mean, I think the Browns being favored by two and a half points tells us that Vegas thinks they're the better team.


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[Assistant] I mean, your point is if all of the road teams win, the Browns then, by re-seeding Virtue, get a home game. They would host Miami. But if by some fluke of nature, the Ravens lose the next game and the Browns win, then the Browns would host an AFC Championship game. Let's get ahead of ourselves.


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[Assistant] But in the fourth quarter of that game, that was one of those comfort games that you weren't worried about. Right. But there's a big difference between CJ Shroud and Case Keenum. Yes, but my point there where I was leading was CJ Shroud doesn't play defense, but they were missing some key defensive pieces.


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[Assistant] No, he doesn't probably. I don't think he does either. I just wanted to first touch on is there anything that you saw this weekend that would change our minds?


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[Assistant] I didn't. Houston is still the team that I would like to see least, but that's the deal. That's who we have. We're going to break down the nuances and all the matchups of this game in general, but let's just get a treetop view of what we think.


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[Assistant] Between the healthy Texans with CJ Stroud and the Browns. Not necessarily predictions. We could save all that for Friday. But what, what kind of game are you looking for? This could be a high scoring game, low scoring game. Gee Bush, what do you see?


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[Assistant] That's probably the most vociferous smack talk I've heard about this matchup yet. I know it's just Monday.


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[Assistant] They're near the bottom. If not, I think they're probably the last seven or eight in turnover differential. It's very odd that you would have a team get to 11 wins and they're close to double digits in turnover differential. They take it away as much as anyone in the league, but they also give it away as much as anyone in the league.


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[Assistant] And as we know from history in playoff games, it's all about the teams that play the clean games. If you play a clean game and you don't give it away, your chances of winning go up dramatically. If you're gifting the team,


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[Assistant] The uh, the ball two, three times during the game, you make, especially on the road,


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[Assistant] The degree of difficulty skyrockets. And the stat that I saw that really caught my eye this week on the Texans was the turnovers. They, particularly with having a broken quarterback, they take care of the rock.


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[Assistant] And that lost to Tampa. That, I had already decided that CJ Stroud was the guy, was like, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, Troy Aikman said an interesting thing on the broadcast, uh, over the weekend. He said, when you draft a quarterback in the first, as a rookie, particularly high,


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[Assistant] Your objective for the rookie season is to know that he's your franchise guy moving forward.


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[Assistant] I already thought that CJ Stroud was that guy before the Buccaneers game. When I saw what he did to that Bucs defense with 35 seconds or whatever it was, after Baker scored the touchdown to give the Bucs the lead, when he drove the team down the field on like four plays and all four throws were unbelievable,


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[Assistant] It was obvious at that moment, he is that guy moving forward.


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[Assistant] And, and they lost to the Rams, they lost to the Steelers, they lost to the Ravens. So they're 4-3.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't mind it. Just for the boost it would give the club. They need another receiver.


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[Assistant] You know what's weird? I think this year probably more than, correctly if I'm wrong guys, I think this year more than any other year, if you played the season out a thousand times, I think you'd have more Super Bowl winners this year than most.


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[Assistant] Like for the Browns? No, I'm talking about if you just play it out, play out the tournament with the 14 teams that make the postseason. If you were to play it out a thousand times.


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[Assistant] I think you can make a s- there's a case that-


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[Assistant] A lot more teams could win the Super Bowl this year than most. Because you don't have that dominant Kansas City season. I mean, I know Baltimore did and I know San Francisco did, but they've looked human. Baltimore lost three games at home this year.


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[Assistant] Even the best, no, no, they don't scare you. There's not that team that I would look at in the, like even two, three years ago when the Browns, or 2020 when the Browns had Kansas City, even though they played them close and had a really good chance to win that game late, going into it, I had, I gave them no chance to win that game.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's a high number. Okay, that's a lot. Let's say 10 out of 10. See, that's why I went so big. A thousand simulations. You could have 12 of these teams win. At least one.


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[Assistant] So, Miami's schedule when you look at it, they feasted on bad teams. Every time they played a really good team, they got it handed to them.


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[Assistant] I mean if you look at the Browns chances, and I guess that was the ultimate question, like if you played it out a thousand times, how many did the Browns win? See the Browns winning 30 or 40?


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[Assistant] Which would make that, you know, give them about a three or four percent chance to win the Super Bowl now that they're in the tournament.


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[Assistant] It could be higher than that. The thing is, for me, if you, if I gave you a certain number of facts,


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[Assistant] You would say that number is higher. And here's the number of facts that I'll give you. They've beaten the one seed in the West. They've beaten the one seed in


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[Assistant] Or in the NFC. They've beaten the one seed in the AFC at their place.


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[Assistant] And they've got a top ranked defense and they won as many games as anybody in the NFL except two teams. Did two teams get to 12?


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[Assistant] The Browns were right below that at 11, and they beat the two teams that they played with 12. So I mean, if you just look at those stats, hell yeaah.


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[Assistant] It features the two front runners for Coach of the Year. I thought Stefanski had it rubber stamped, but I've seen a number of pundits since Houston won, say that, you know how much they love to give


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[Assistant] How did it go over when they put a regular season game on Peacock and forced fans to do it? You know what fans said? I'm good, I'll pass. And here's the thing, that playoff game that are involving those two teams, it will still be on free TV in those markets.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. But this notion that oh, streaming is here and it's gonna take over and dominate, it's a false narrative. Yeaah, no no.


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[Assistant] It's insulting, at least this is what people have told me, when D. Podesta made the crossover,


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[Assistant] I had analytics guys that have been in the NFL for four or five years prior to that say, this is insulting. And I said, well, aren't numbers numbers? You know, you can, you can cross them with anything we saw with, um,


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[Assistant] We've seen this in the past where polling data, numbers, stuff like that can cross over, but


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[Assistant] I just want somebody that's been immersed in this culture for 20 years.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'll buy that, because I do think the hierarchy and the structure of an organization


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[Assistant] Uh, if you look at the greats in baseball, the NBA and the NFL, there's a lot in common with those organizations.


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[Assistant] No, see I disagree with that because look how Britney has tarnished, I don't want to say tarnished, but we, I think we all look at Patrick Mahomes a little different, that that's his gal.


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[Assistant] I would have bet all I own that that couldn't have happened before the season started. I would have thought he would have been the 33rd quarterback to start, to be quite honest. And you know what, there's already been two firings and that one's deserved in my mind.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he was doing what the, what management was telling him to do or not. Who got fired? Rivera. Rivera's out and Smith are both out. Smith and Atlanta. Did you guys see the end of the Saints-Falcons game? I have no problem with what the Saints did. No, I do. I do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, wow, holy cow, I'm surprised you said that. You're the first person I've heard say that. Well did you hear what James said?


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[Assistant] Alan was trying to tell Smith, you know, but he was hearing none of it.


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[Assistant] You know, it is like, do you want to have knee surgery or shoulder surgery with no pain medicine? What do you want to do? And you got to be awake for it.


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[Assistant] Women give birth, they don't even- Women's pain tolerance is ten times that.


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[Assistant] You've already got Joe Flacco who was on the heap for 12 weeks. Why not go to somebody who's been on the heap for 17 weeks? I mean, the broadcasters wouldn't know what to do with themselves during the game.


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[Assistant] I'll say to your original question, David Bell, you know, I feel marginally better about him today than I did yesterday. But Alex Wright to me is the guy, and it wasn't just yesterday, it's the last quarter of the season. He's looked like sometimes, and gee, I think you can talk to this best, sometimes there's a learning curve in every position.


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[Assistant] And Houston's one game was not good against the Colts. It struggled.


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[Assistant] He has, but he didn't look good. And so to G's point, if you can get pass rush and the guys are locking down for three, four seconds, they better be able to come with that runway because if they can't, it's going to be a long day for them. To your point too about Alex Wright, and that's why I brought up sometimes a light goes off. You mentioned the play for the Bears. That's the one that jumps out to me too. First of all,


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[Assistant] Cognitively, he sniffed that out. He saw it coming. And then he shot the gap and made the play. And that to me said the mental and the physical are married up now. And that's sometimes when you see a player skyrocket to their potential. And I think he's seeing things develop. I think he's putting himself in the right place at the right time.


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[Assistant] It was a guy who had impressed us in his time coming into yester- or into the Bengals game.


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[Assistant] I don't, he didn't do anything to change my opinion of him. No. There were a couple times though where I wondered where he was.


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[Assistant] They are weird. They can linger. Did I read this correctly? The AFC North is the first division since 1935 to have all four teams finish with a winning record.


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[Assistant] Now it's easier to do it now with the odd number of games. I can't ever remember by the way a time when the NFL played an odd number of games.


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[Assistant] And I know this is just a placeholder to get us to 18. But it's easier to do that, obviously, because in the old way...


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[Assistant] You basically had to beat nine and seven. You had to beat two games over. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but there was a time when there were a couple of divisions that had five. It had to be before. Who were the last two teams to join the league? Jacksonville and Tampa.


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[Assistant] The Texans. Jacksonville and Carolina. Oh, the Texans, yeaah. The Texans.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was weird the way they had it. Then they realigned it to the current.


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[Assistant] And did they put Jacksonville in? I think Jacksonville was in with the Browns. Yeaah. And then the Browns left. Either way.


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[Assistant] I don't know what his contract looked like. Did you guys see the Jadevian Clowney celebration when he got to his incentive sack? And Chris Jones. Chris Jones too. The $750,000 sack, the million dollar, uh, someone scored a million dollar touchdown yesterday.


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[Assistant] Because he's too far removed from that number one overall pick. And we've seen, we've seen what he can be. The most frustrating thing to me about Baker is, and this season, don't laugh when I say this and I know you will, he's a poor man's Josh Allen this year. And here's what I mean by that. He can look frustratingly good.


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[Assistant] He had a four touchdown, no pit, 350 yard game this year.


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[Assistant] He could also look frustratingly bad. And the reason I say he's a poor man's Josh Allen, even though this year he finished with more touchdowns and fewer picks than Allen.


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[Assistant] Or passing touchdowns. Passing touchdowns. He can also do Josh Allen things.


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[Assistant] And the problem with Baker, why you can't say he's in Josh Allen's category, is because his ceiling isn't as high as Josh's is. So, he's just this frustrating guy, who I don't think is ever gonna get to a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Can he, can he take a team to a playoffs in a weak division? I think he can.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, and he did it here in a pretty damn good division. So, but the problem with Baker is...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think they're gonna, you know, the folks that I talk to that cover the team on a daily basis and some from a national that are in and out, all say, and this is interesting and I wonder if you've heard the same thing, on the maturity thing,


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[Assistant] Just, if you're comparing the three quarterbacks, I think CJ Stroud, I feel very comfortable in saying he's here. Sure, because he ha-


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[Assistant] Maybe you have to go back to Dan Marino before.


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[Assistant] You're right! The throw had to be better, but if I'm assigning blame, I'm giving 40% to the quarterback and 60% to the runback.


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[Assistant] And Lendell White gets stoned and Texas comes back and wins the national championship.


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[Assistant] Here's a question for you. If you score that touchdown, uh, how much time was left?


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[Assistant] By the way, I know they missed the playoffs, but they're a well coached team. I like the way that team is. I still don't like that decision.


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[Assistant] The best thing Pittsburgh ever did was put Warren in his sphere. Because I couldn't agree with you more. That guy ran like his job depended on it on every carry. They got two backs. Now does anyone give them a chance in the playoffs? No.


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[Assistant] You know, it's funny, they've got a little bit of what Joe Flacco has going. I think it was you that said last week Mason Rudolph was, was done.


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[Assistant] So what they know is their last chance. Mason even said in the post game interview, he's like, you know,


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[Assistant] I didn't expect to be here. I thought I was done. There's something about facing that last breath and knowing that it just didn't happen. His record and his stats for his few starts that he's made


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[Assistant] Are not ugly. I'm surprised it took Pittsburgh this long to say he can do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's why I don't think they have a chance to win. Yeah, that's why I think they don't have a chance in their first round game. Yeah. And it looks like that was a what, a grade two? Yeah, that's a two. Grade two. You just gotta miss at least one game out there.


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[Assistant] Isn't it a good negotiating ploy though for him to tell Schefter that or his agent to tell Schefter that and put that up? Because if I'm the Steelers and I'm Rooney and I'm hearing that he's prepared to do that,


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[Assistant] I don't know that, you know, I think at that point you write up an extension. Cause I'm keeping them. I'm keeping them. I don't care what anybody says. I'm keeping them. 17 for 17 is worth something.


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[Assistant] Oh, one and nine. Okay, so they've got to decide if Justin Fields their guy going forward or not. I have heard that Pittsburgh is very interested if Chicago punts on Justin.


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[Assistant] Well, here's the amazing stat on Pickett. I think you sent it in the chat last week. Joe Flacco has as many touchdown passes for the Browns as Pickett has for the Steelers. All time.


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[Assistant] That speaks to the troubles that the quarterbacks have had.


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[Assistant] And I think for me, I'm wondering now how much has Mobly stunted Alan's growth?


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[Assistant] Out of Alan without Mobley in there, and I gotta tell you, I've seen Mobley enough without Alan in there.


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[Assistant] I mean, I know what defies what our initial logical statement was is that Mowgli's gonna be the guy for this team, but I think I've changed my thinking on that and I'm not, I don't know.


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[Assistant] It's possible we've had it wrong. It wouldn't be the first time in sports that we've everybody got it wrong. I just, I don't know. I don't think that this team can play the two of them together successfully through a playoff run. I think it's either or.


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[Assistant] And I've seen, and it's a small sample size, but I really like the way this team plays. They play differently. I don't know that they are better, I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] I don't know that. I'm not operating this scenario under that premise.


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[Assistant] I think I would like to see a playoff run with Allen as the key big and whatever piece they could get in a Mowgli trade and Donovan Mitchell. I just think they're, they look better to me.


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[Assistant] Let me ask it this way. If we were to rate out of 1 to 10 how the two gel together when they're on the floor at the same time.


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[Assistant] Where is that experiment and that continuum right now?


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[Assistant] Is this, is this, is this a six? Is it a seven?


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[Assistant] So here's what, I'm trying to get you on the progression here. You saying, oh, that's a non-starter. There's no way they're trading them. And that's probably true.


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[Assistant] I'm just asking the question, should it be investigated? And the first question you have to ask before you get to that point is, can we win together, either with or without Mitchell? That's irrelevant to me. Can these two guys carry a team deep into the playoffs the way they're currently playing?


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[Assistant] Maybe it's premature, but my answer to that is no. And if it is a no, the next question in the continuum is, so which one goes?


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[Assistant] Okay, so what I was saying is, is the next question here, first question is, do we think these two can carry the Cavs deep into the playoffs?


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[Assistant] Really shoot. Okay, so your answer then to the question is yes, they can make a deep playoff run with these two guys. With the shooters they have. See, because I can't take.


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[Assistant] Would you agree that winning gives you a much better chance of keeping him long term? See, I think this is more urgent than two, three years down the road, and here's why. We don't want


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[Assistant] This experiment with Donovan to end after a first round playoff exit this year. And he said, it just didn't develop like I thought it would. I thought this was gonna be a place where we could have success. It didn't happen. And for that, I'm going to Brooklyn.


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[Assistant] I feel it is. So I'm trying to get ahead of that storm. And what I'm asking, and this is a serious organizational question, Mike says they're not willing to have that conversation. What I would be doing as an organization is saying, we've got a couple months to get this right to keep the peace. So what do we get for a package for either or?


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[Assistant] So I think that it's, it's a nice starter. The question is the one. Yeah, because if that's the case and it is, then I just think long term, we all know what's coming.


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[Assistant] But if he walks at the end... Well, he's got one more year. Okay, so do you think that he plays for the Cavs next year?


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[Assistant] I don't either. So I just think we're kicking the can down the road. Do it.


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[Assistant] Do you think they will do it? No. Make a move like that? I don't think that they will. See, as a fan, I mean, we've talked about this in theory a lot. Be bold.


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[Assistant] So I, you know, I think once you realize that this isn't the mix, then don't keep playing the hand, fold and get a new hand.


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[Assistant] And the cops said we're gonna transport you to the hospital. I'm laughing. I'm like, no, I gotta be on the air. You walked to the show. I walked to the show. I had the insurance company from the woman that hit me called me 15 times at least. Are you sure you're okay?


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[Assistant] Sports show. The Browns are in the playoffs. Bernie Kozar is going to join us at noon. We're going to be on channel three WKYC here in Cleveland from 1230 to one as we always are. Thanks to all of you, the thousands of Cleveland fans of Cleveland Browns fans.


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[Assistant] Who are watching, who are listening, who are doing whatever. Please hit the thumbs up. Hit that thumbs up for us. Let's get it going. Let's break the record here for viewers. Let's break the record here for thumbs up.


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[Assistant] Guys, you know, you know the movie The Natural? You remember that movie? Oh yeaah. Robert Redford. Never heard of it.


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[Assistant] Uh, the natural was a movie where Robert Redford, now he's way too old to be a baseball player, but you gotta suspend reality. So Robert Redford at the beginning of the movie is this young, hot shot baseball prospect. He suppose, he looks like he's 50, but he's supposed to be 19 years old or 20 years old. And,


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[Assistant] He's going, and he, and he, and he faces, he's on the train to go play baseball for the first time professionally, and it is his competition, it is his Babe Ruth type character, who he strikes out, he's gonna be a star, he ends up getting shot, his whole career goes down the tubes.


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[Assistant] Then years, years, years later, he makes a comeback to baseball. He's a hitter instead of a pitcher and he, nobody ever heard of him before. He comes from the independent leagues and he becomes the greatest baseball player who ever lived.


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[Assistant] 12 years. But he kinda was. But he kinda was! Joe Flacco was a very good NFL quarterback for a while. He led a team to a Super Bowl. He's won a ton of playoff games. By the way, Joe Flacco has never, never,


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[Assistant] Gone to the playoffs and lost his first playoff game. Never in his career. He's won at least one playoff game every time he's been to the playoffs. This story is


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[Assistant] Patently absurd. Yeah. Patently absurd. We'll get more details on that. But the city last night. Guys, you guys were both at the stadium. They showed up and they showed up. You left a two. Jason, you left a three. I bet there were still people out.


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[Assistant] It was, I mean, it was awesome. Obviously I wasn't there, I'm watching it at home. A fan of the show, oh man, I can't remember who it was now. Geez, I'm so sorry.


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[Assistant] But watching it on TV, it was just, I mean, it sounded so loud, it sounded crazy. The sound of the people banging the metal every time this third down.


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[Assistant] It came off great. The city came off great. The celebration and everybody was crapping all over the Browns early in the season because of Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] To us, it's a slam dunk. I actually think Harbaugh deserves some serious consideration, because nobody was picking the Ravens in the beginning of the year, and they've been the best team in football. But, what Stefanski has had to overcome this year, has just been remarkable.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you, Kevin Stefanski has put a lot of coaches on the hockey team.


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[Assistant] That's the only time this franchise has had stability, and hopefully that'll happen with extensions for Stefanski and Berry this offseason. Go ahead, Mike.