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[Assistant] Almost, uhm, forget that he threw those two or three picks and had the pick six and stuff.


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[Assistant] And almost, uh, evaporate from his brain. And then to have a fourth quarter like that, to like, like, to where the first three quarters never happened. And for him just to put that behind him and come in somehow, someway, that Jimmy Johnson line, and we're nine and five in a game that just about all of us, on Sunday afternoon, about quarter after three, thought it was over.


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[Assistant] I mean, so I, again, it's not optimal how you want to get it in terms of


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[Assistant] Uhm, offensively performing better, but for our quarterback to show that type of guts and that type of comeback and resiliency, courage, everything you want from a leader heading into January. I mean, I'm even higher this week than I was last week. Wow!


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[Assistant] Hopefully Ethan Postnick's coming back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't want to be diving on the old line like last week. It was tough running the ball. That was a good D, that was a good D line. But again, to, to have


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[Assistant] CJ possibly not playing. And a rookie at least not practicing the last two weeks. And I'm playing against our pass rush. And even though Aaron Rodgers...


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[Assistant] Basically in 7 days, we're going to be playing the Jets on a holiday week, short week here. So now we're really looking and playing at Cincinnati. We don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but absolutely the opportunity to be 12 and 5 is right in front of us.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, thanks, you know, even thanks on that, but I mean, more so that just the optimism of how you asked me about how the offense do getting better or foundation getting better last week. Probably not, but the, the guts and resiliency of Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] But the confidence that the team could have going into January, whether it's 12 and 5, 12 and 4, whatever that may be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, whether it's the best record from a team in history or not. Just the, in that locker room, you know, the confidence that they have, the brotherhood that they, that they believe in. I mean, this family that they've created, it's really fun to watch right now.


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[Assistant] For most cues, okay, after three picks and a guy who's a pocket quarterback on the run after three picks doesn't even consider attempting that. And his courage and toughness, not only to attempt it, but then to make the perfect throw.


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[Assistant] Oh, the degree of difficulties. Through the roof, it's windy, it wasn't an optimal day to throw the ball, and then after, you know, after the way the first, you know, three quarters went, for him to have that belief in himself is better than spectacular.


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[Assistant] That's not a shot on the O line. God bless those guys for stepping in. And again, I don't mean this to be funny, but guys that don't even know their names and stuff. Okay, so now for Joe Flacco, a pocket older quarterback against an out man D line and O line.


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[Assistant] For him to, again, to have that resiliency, that just shows the specialness that we have right now leading our, leading our team.


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[Assistant] By manipulating in the play action pass. And even though the play action pass may not fool people as much as it did when we ran the ball good.


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[Assistant] I absolutely love when the check downs are placed for a veteran quarterback like Joe Flacco. So even though the running game may not be as good, I still think I'm right with you. He could do it. And in Joe, we trust right now. And that is how we're going to be a, uh, make a run in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] You gotta run the ball. Well, we want to. I mean, we want to, but to G. Bush's point, I mean, if we'd have said this, that uh, three or four or five weeks ago, that we can't run the ball, but I still feel good about winning the game.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, you're in massive trouble. But I mean, the Browns this whole century haven't made it to the playoffs. So right now, to just get there, okay, and like we had said, uhm, last week, uhm, two weeks ago, we have been as unhealthy as we could be the last couple weeks.


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[Assistant] So I, I really like the running back room. I love how the guys have stepped in and played, uh, replacing Nick Chubb. Yes is the short answer, okay, to do, to play more. And it's not because I'm down on Ford, it's because of what I just said. I'm so high on the play action game.


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[Assistant] I'm so high on Joe Flacco. And when you have a creative kinda...


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[Assistant] The guy who understands the offense and how you kind of astutely said, knows where to go. It's almost like my boy Leroy Hoard, okay? I cream out there with Joe Flacco, I think in the play action game and check downs and in the passing game with Coach Dufanski, we'll do some special, be able to do some special things with that.


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[Assistant] Well, Coach Stefanski, go back to the Minnesota Vikings days, okay, his kind of mentor is Gary Kubiak. Right. Okay, Gary Kubiak runs this type system and stuff. Joe Flacco spent some time with Gary Kubiak, so he's a little bit averse than that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so then that pieces that kind of relationship together. There's a respect factor, but I absolutely concur with you in terms of the, this is kind of the sweet spot of their play calling.


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[Assistant] And I'll look right in the camera for this, for young, uh, offensive coordinators out there and for young people putting an offense together. So help me God get under center, like Jay Crawford's talking about. You can't be in the shotgun your whole life like that. So running a ball, play action, being able to do that.


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[Assistant] Coach Defanski and Bill Flacco are on point right now with their schemes and they're going to scheme guys good and I'm ready for the playoffs for that stuff.


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[Assistant] Those two, those two are going to come up with game plans. They'll be ready.


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[Assistant] So at this time of year, and this sounds, God, I'm so blessed that we're talking about the late third quarter, early fourth quarter of my life. It's the holiday season. I want to give back. It's such a great time to give them that.


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[Assistant] Those young kids better know that this is the greatest gift of their life and nothing in the world matters other than these games. Do they know that? They better know that or they shouldn't be around here long. And we won't play long into the off season, but if guys stink like that, so.


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[Assistant] There's veteran guys, Joe Flacco coming around. This kind of resurgence of a veteran guy. The Miles Garrett leadership.


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[Assistant] The leadership of some, I think the veteran guys are going to make sure that doesn't happen. And then just like I said, I'm an old man and I'm excited, okay, about the playoffs. These guys now, they come to work.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and know that they're, they're going to be playing in the playoffs, that they have a chance to make a difference. This isn't just a smoke screen and rhetoric for TV. These guys believe they could win. I sat next to,


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[Assistant] I hope so. I mean, he's a pro baller. He had an amazing year. I mean, these guys are truly a family and it goes, you know, goes to those OTAs off season going down to West Virginia. It worked. They care about each other.


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[Assistant] of the national championship in between was all that brown stuff and the mass of electricity that's running through my body, getting excited for the playoffs and stuff and I ain't even playing. So for sure, that young kid, that college kid here, ah, it's been too long, the bumps and bruises.


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[Assistant] And they may not have the energy and stuff. God, that electricity that goes through them, that adrenaline. I kind of have cockiness. Hey, it's cool. I'm, I'm it. I'm the only guy playing. And that, that, I believe that's that type of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Energy is absolutely gonna galvanize these younger players.


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[Assistant] That's the very point, it's, and talent has to come with it, but boy, that's just some of the stuff we're talking about. That super heart, that belief, that love for the guy next to you, that family that's been created out there, this is,


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[Assistant] In a positive way, this kind of us against the world mentality, this kind of nothing else matters but, uhm, but the team, but winning.


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[Assistant] You know, even us here, this is a job. It's a profession. Oh, it's a business. You know, now those teams, when you get to this level,


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[Assistant] It's not a job to show up on December 22nd. It is not a job to get on the airplane on December 23rd to fly down to Houston to play a football game on Christmas Eve. Most people say, oh, that's, that's... What is it?


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[Assistant] Oh, it's your life. You love every second of it. It's a privilege. It's the greatest thing you should strive for. And if you don't wreck em, if you don't really realize that


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[Assistant] This is one of the great moments of your life. You're gonna have a downward spiral after this because this is a high point that you should really relish and embrace because you do not get these opportunities much in life and most people


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[Assistant] Don't get these chances. So, God, to be here and to have these special gifts, to have veteran guys also coaching them up, this could be special.


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[Assistant] So I'm, I am, I am not David Najoku's, uh, marketing rep, although I should be, because I'm flat out been on him, um, from the beginning coming here. I have loved him. Miami guy. And it isn't just, and it isn't just you, okay, but just.


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[Assistant] Watching him from in college and his athleticism and then understanding his just love for the game and stuff.


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[Assistant] You guys know how much I love the Kelseys and Travis and stuff. Uhm, two-way blocking, what David Najoka was doing in the run game is beyond special and then ought to be a dominant pass catching tight end and leadership. That's one of the guys absolutely gluing the leadership. I think he's playing


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[Assistant] Well, it makes the money, but then just the why the team is, I believe, where we're at at this level. You got a guy like that making plays, a guy like that galvanizing and keeping the team together in the locker room as a family and stuff.


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[Assistant] And then flat out, with line issues and tackle issues, he's the tight end, right there, in line, tight end, chipping, banging, knocking sure, making sure stuff doesn't happen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought you were going to say, do you think we would have been in the playoffs? And I was going to say that you must have stolen my remaining pills of Oxycontin that I don't take anymore.


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[Assistant] Anybody, and again, I'm as optimistic as anyone, to have been sitting here after the Nick Chubb issues, okay, and him getting hurt, and then the QBs getting hurt like this, to be where we are now is


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[Assistant] It's Disney World. I mean, this is something that we should really enjoy. This is special. Hey, and, and even where the woe is me mentality, let's not get ahead of ourselves, but all Cleveland and we, we,


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[Assistant] Get bad breaks and stuff. This is the one year, okay.


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[Assistant] I'm uh, I'm scarred for life from the Hail Flutie. Okay? Sure. Alright.


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[Assistant] We sat, I sat here, we sat here last week, two weeks ago, uhm, not wanting to be the homers, not trying to, uh, hype up, uh, the offseason, the postseason. Nobody wants to play the Cleveland Browns in January.


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[Assistant] That front, the front on defense, okay, and I believe we will be running the ball by January. And now with Joe Flacco and the way the offense is going. Who knows? And the way the AFC and injuries has taken everybody back to the pack.


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[Assistant] So right now, so much that we've been talking about the relationship between Coach Stefanski and Joe Flacco, I, right now, I'm so high on what we're doing and the belief of these two working in conjunction together that I'm really thinking about what my schemes are for


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[Assistant] The playoff games for the main games when games are on the line. I'm doing personnel groups. Right. Okay, I wanna work the backs in. I wanna see who can handle this stuff.


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[Assistant] I'm flat out putting stuff on film that I want teams to see me doing and I may not put certain things on film that I don't want teams to see.


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[Assistant] Yeah, she has the flu, so she had to, unfortunately, uh, pass, but we may, and I say may, because we're still working on it, we may have a very special guest coming up, if the stars align, so make sure y'all stick around, we could have a guest we've never had out before, who I can promise you guys, and to you guys watching, I promise you, you want to hear from this guy,


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[Assistant] After a read from our friends over at FanDuel because even as the weather gets colder outside,


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[Assistant] The NFL offers stay red hot on FanDuel and right now new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet so you can bet on the Browns to beat the Bears this weekend and if that wins and you're a new FanDuel customer you get $150.


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL. FanDuel, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. And shout out to our guy Dan Berger for turning 10 bucks into $335 this week.


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[Assistant] Kareem Hunt, an anytime touchdown scorer, and the Browns Moneyline. That paid out.


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[Assistant] At plus 3200. So shout out to Dan Berger. 10 bucks to 335. You have a winning fan duel ticket, send it to us. That's a nice one. It is a nice one. We had a bunch of Browns winners. We'll continue to showcase them the rest of the week, but let's talk Flacco. Let's talk back of quarterbacks, Jay.


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[Assistant] And why, and whether or not Joe Flacco is immune to what we've seen happen to so many backup quarterbacks throughout the NFL, they start hot, then they teeter off, but Flacco's not your ordinary backup.


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[Assistant] Fandul, an official partner of the NFL. Leroy's been in the queue listening to our conversation for the last five, six minutes. He was shaking his head at some of the stuff you guys said. So Leroy, what'd you disagree with that the guy said about Joe Flack


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[Assistant] Well, we just talked about a bear's injury. We'll talk about some more Brown's injuries and some potential replacements, but first on Thursday night.


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[Assistant] Cavs Watch Party live remote show UCSS's first ever live remote show at Rocket Mortgage Field House. Use the Sherman Williams entrance will be in Caesar's. Tyvis will be joining us.


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[Assistant] We have rectified that, so it'll be G, Tyvis, Bull, Jason, myself, and the N Earl. The whole squad minus Jay because he's busy working. So make sure you guys come hang out with us at Rocket Mortgage Field House. Show up. They're giving out free swag, free tickets, and it's totally free to get there. It's going to be a lot of fun. Cav Celtics. There's a Monsters game. So make sure you guys come out.


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[Assistant] To Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse would be at Caesars. Use the Sherman Williams entrance. You'll be right there. Walk in and, uh.


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[Assistant] Okay guys, on a more serious note, we got news yesterday that Mohurst is out for the season with a torn pectoral. We knew Jed Wills was out for the season after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery. We got that news right before the show broke. So we did a little digging. We looked up some free agent options, but I want to start with the defensive tackle position. I want to start with this.


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[Assistant] Jordan Elliott's still in concussion protocol. May or may not be cleared by Sunday. He's still TBD. We'll hear from Stefanski here shortly. We know Mo Hurst is out. We haven't seen Siaki Ika, their third round pick, play yet this season. I had a big whoopsie.


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[Assistant] Earlier this year, we did our 32 and 32, and I had him in the top 32. And he's got zero snaps this season, so big miss out of us.


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[Assistant] But is this the time we finally see Sayaka Ika before we move to the offensive line? Is it Ika time, G. Bush?


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[Assistant] So other defensive tackle options and then we'll talk about the offensive guys. But the defensive tackle guys who I think are worth at least taking some sort of look at. Make a call to a guy like Endama Kingsu.


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[Assistant] Would you guys call Endama King Sue, then we'll talk offensively. He played for Schwartz.


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[Assistant] I see it. Hey, we're, we're waiting any minute now for a very special guest. As soon as he pops in, I'll make sure we get to him, but we're going to read some super chats in the meantime to knock those out of the way. And super chats as always are brought to us by PCC airfoil. So if you're looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits, PCC airfoils is a leading manufacturer in Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] First Super Chat comes from Glazma Podcast.


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[Assistant] It says, I don't like to count my eggs before they hatch, but can you imagine a Cleveland Baltimore playoff game? What a storyline it would be with Flacco under center.


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[Assistant] Next Super Chat comes from Matthew Dinkus. He says, Don't forget, Kevin has a track record of getting the most out of his quarterbacks. The same cannot be said about the Jets. That is true. ArmacDog says the Browns offense, it's not good or bad. It's just professional. They find ways to win with the current players on the field. They should just keep their current guys.


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[Assistant] One, Tyvis, you gotta get into coaching bro. Second, Leroy, I mean Leroy.


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[Assistant] We'll throw back to last week. Jerell Jack says he's coming to the Browns Jets game on Thursday Night Football. And last one comes from Big Bills. He says, J said Flacco's last two games weren't quote, really bad, but can't give Watson credit against the Ravens. Make it make sense. Okay. Those are super chances.


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[Assistant] So as soon as the guest comes, I will bring him in, but we got a few minutes here and hopefully he comes in any second, but.


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[Assistant] We'll spend this time talking a little Cavs here. Tristan Thompson is contributing to the Cavs in a way I don't think anyone could have realistically expected considering where he was last year, aka on TV.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to, uh, the latest update from the Browns. They've switched our guests. We may get a guest and they may give them to us tomorrow. So we have a Browns player who agreed to come on. Someone came up. He said I could do it at four o'clock. We're not obviously here at four o'clock.


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[Assistant] So visit FanBull.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season.


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[Assistant] FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL. Bull, I'm not sure if anyone's won three in a row.


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[Assistant] Tyvis says, no way I lose to Jay today. Dr. Su. You know what? I'll let you beat me today.


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[Assistant] True or false? And all these are either, all true or all false by the way, there's no halves.


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[Assistant] Jaron Christian was Lamar Jackson's left tackle at Louisville.


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[Assistant] Jaron Christian benched 225 pounds 36 times at the NFL Combine, the second most of any offensive tackle in 2018 draft.


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[Assistant] Is Jay gonna go 4 for 4? The answer.


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[Assistant] Actually, let me confirm that before I... Let me just confirm that one more time.


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[Assistant] The game was taped delayed because ABC decided to broadcast it in primetime.


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[Assistant] Ahh, Christmas is coming. Come on T.J. Watts, stop playing around with me. King of the North, Grinch t-shirts, ready to go. By the way, look, you can zoom in on that. If you look at the polls, it's telling you.


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[Assistant] No, no, there's not the official Grinch. That's his cousin. Grinch? No, no, G-Money. Oh, G-Money. G-Money. Did you make changes to him?


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[Assistant] It's already knocked off, especially the guys from Pittsburgh. Stop TJ. TJ, why you got enough money? Why you always want to do? They come, I got a Grinch. They come out with a Grinch bull. Hmm. Very interesting. They kill you off.


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[Assistant] I think, I think you had a little snafu earlier this year and then I've been listening to see if there's any decline. Uhm, I just gotta be 80.


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[Assistant] He's just a little jaded, uh, you know. Yea, that's how it feels. Ask Jason Lloyd and Jay about, you know, they'd be like, listen.


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[Assistant] See, you done made so close to it where it's like, oh, I just saw Lebron and I'm talking to him behind the scenes. It's kind of hard to get amped up about like things like regular season games. Pittsburgh, New England, week 13. Come on, this dude in the middle to the top of the mountain and back. He like, yeaah. Call me when it's done.


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[Assistant] This dude is, I watch, I watch the Saturday night best football game.


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[Assistant] No interviews. I'm not talking to the podcast. Leave me alone. I'm going to boat somewhere. That's right.


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[Assistant] Guess what? You can win this game with a no-name gangster at quarterback. Who's playing? Trevor Lawrence ain't playing. He try to fool y'all. He fool, he try to fool. He not playing. They got this other dude out here. If you, you gotta beat this guy. He's a nobody. When you got him at home, the defense play better at home. If you get to eight and five, you ain't gotta worry about the rest of that stuff.


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[Assistant] Listen, stack some wins, get to eight and five, and then you don't have the pressure of saying, well I gotta go play CJ Stroud and he's hot.


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[Assistant] Or I gotta go over here. The football gods have given you another one. This should be a Cardinals game for you.


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[Assistant] This should be a game where the bangles when you caught Joe Burrows slipping. This should be a 49ers game when they catch, when you getting all these guys out, you got to get them now. Do you know how, actually this is just the final thing. Think how much better you'll sleep on Sunday when you sleep better with a Browns loss or win.


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[Assistant] If you're the defense, you shouldn't care. You shouldn't care about none of that. All that threes and the Browns defense needs to get back to what they was doing before. If the Browns defense, ask yourself this question, if this was the Browns week three, four, five,


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[Assistant] And you said, oh, Trevor Lawrence is playing and he's injured. What would you say? Oh, this is decent sitting duck. They have not played that way. They have not attacked that way. And so they should not care whether or not it's him or the backup. And if it is him, he's a sitting duck and you should come after him.


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[Assistant] There's two different packages. Trevor Lawrence can't run right now, so is he mobile? Who knows?


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[Assistant] To, to cut, to move, to throw the football, but when you're attacking, you putting them behind the eight ball and figuring out what they can do. Especially when you got a guy in your quarterback has, uh, has a bad wheel and he doesn't know where, where you're coming from. So my thing is, I'm going with the Randy Johnson plan. I got two pitches. Hit him.


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[Assistant] My position coach was Eric Washington. He's the assistant head coach for the Bills now, right? And one of the things that he always told us is, look, it's your job to stop the run.


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[Assistant] You know, Tim, listen, I was watching it and I thought it was going to play well. I didn't think it was going to play that well. It kind of reminded me, if you go walking around in a grocery store and you see an older lady, you'd be like, wow, she is insane. She's really doing her thing. Thumbs up. I like it. Don't do your thing.


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[Assistant] You know, but you know, Tim, I'm telling you what, there's something to be said for a quarterback who does not have that rookie stuff you gotta worry about. You don't gotta worry about the, am I gonna be fooled on this coverage or where's my second progression or I just even love the fact


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[Assistant] That except for the one turnover, he threw the ball away and it was a quick throw away too. You can win with that type of game plan. And I thought Stefanski was kind of comfortable calling that plan. Did you see that, uh, just the levels between him and the other rookie guys in his progression?


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[Assistant] You know, Tim, you know, when you talk about, you know, bringing pressure and getting pressure, you know, the Browns are, I think in the bottom half of the league in terms of bringing five or six man pressures, uhm, do you think that, you know, they're going to have to cook that up a little bit? And when you're playing a, a, a, you know, if Trevor Lawrence doesn't play and they're playing the backup,


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[Assistant] Do you want to sit back in coverage and confuse them or do you want to put the pressure on and go after them?


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[Assistant] So seriously, if Denzel Ward just came off injury, does that not mean that he's injured?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Miles get hurt at this point. Yeaah. He get, listen, he can get, he's hurt, but he can still explode at any time.


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[Assistant] I like Evan Engram at five. I like, listen, I like, I call him, I don't know how to pronounce his name, I like Elijah Wine, I like Hakeem Adream, he get you 14 tackles a week.


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[Assistant] What if you just don't like efficiency? What if that ain't your thing?


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[Assistant] I think Taylor is playing better than Betonio. It looked kind of bad last week because it was Aaron Donnell and everybody looked bad against Aaron Donnell. But I think Taylor has had a better season.


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[Assistant] Flacco seems to, when he played with the Jets, this is the most effective I've seen Elijah Moore in his life. Like he caught a great deep ball on the sideline, got inbounds, they do a play action, a deep comeback over the middle. He was more efficient. He only caught four of his 12 targets.


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[Assistant] Listen, I got Joe Flacco. I'm going Cooper. Cooper. The reason I got Joe Flacco is this week, he comes out, he plays better than he was, he's more efficient, he doesn't throw an interception. Now hang on a minute, you had Elijah Moore? Mmhm. Knee jerk?


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[Assistant] He's gon' keep building steam. He's gon' keep building steam.


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[Assistant] Pretty soon, you gonna get to the end of the year and people gonna be like...


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[Assistant] Hey, we need to keep, we need to get Joe Flacco back. We need to sign him, we need to give him a little contract or some sort.


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[Assistant] And, and, and put that, put that back up there, you know, as I, you know, I watched y'all 22 from this week. And one of the things that really stood out to me


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[Assistant] Was the difference between what the Rams do and what the Browns do. You look at 18.3 tight window throws.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Rams get so much cheap garbage on motion plays where there's nobody around because you're running guys across the line of scrimmage, you're moving guys around, they do a lot with motion, it's hard to cover up. The Browns are not a team that usually uses motion like that.


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[Assistant] Just a five yard sit down route. Like, you know, people are on that. The Browns run like six or seven plays, right? And they mix up the variations, but they're not very...


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[Assistant] They're not, they're not multiple in what they do, so a lot of their throws are gonna be tight windowed because defense knows their, their tendencies when it comes to it, so I would expect that to be high the rest of the year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I looked at it, uhm, I thought the defense played, like when you watch it, it just looked like they were off, didn't really have any enthusiasm. What about offense?


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[Assistant] Defensively, I thought the Rams just had a great gameplay. I love the gameplay. Offensively, uhm, when I watched it, it made me respect Joe Flacco even more because they're not running anything


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[Assistant] That's crazy. I had respect because he was fitting footballs in windows that are like this small over top of a linebacker in front of a safety. And I'm like, wow, they're not running anything. They're just running stick.


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[Assistant] In high low plays, trying to isolate high low defenders with linebackers, but they're not running anything crazy.


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[Assistant] And so for them to be able to move the ball up the field, even though the Rams knew what they were going to run, because there was a couple of times they just flat out jumped the route, so you just knew what it was. So I had a better, uh, I had a more respect for Joe Flack and what they were trying to do, and hopefully the vanilla playbook turns out to be basically, well, just a cheap part of it is that the Browns are


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[Assistant] See the bangles ain't sneaky. That ain't a give me win either. That's why I'm circling this one. I saw y'all. I saw y'all Monday. Y'all ain't done yet.


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[Assistant] And great on the road. Minganugas, if that dude comes anything close to 307 and four touchdowns, and this year?


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[Assistant] I mean, when I watch all 20, I'm trying to figure out what their assignments are, like,


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[Assistant] These jet motion plays where guys is getting 40, 40 yards before somebody touching them, it just seems like the defensive ends are like, confused.


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[Assistant] You see Newsom stoppin' and startin' and runnin' around. Right, right. And then when you run and give him the, the, the handoff, it's, the defensive end is just crashin' down. And the, the, the follow guy is already behind. Yeah, and, and so you take a step down, the guy's already there. I don't, I'm trying to figure out if the, what assignment football, cause usually a defensive end has us, but we talked about it, right? When we,


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[Assistant] If you rewind the whole thing and you go back to summer, I said, Jim Schwartz has defensive ends that don't necessarily have to contain. That he didn't prioritize contain. He gives people a little.


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[Assistant] They were running cover six. Juan Thorhill on the back of the front side of the play had one receiver route and his job as in cover two is to get over the top and he let a receiver just run a corner route.


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[Assistant] And it was like, you know you have him, right?


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[Assistant] And I think a lot of times when you start running man-to-man coverage, you can play fast, it's easy, I don't gotta, I know who I got.


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[Assistant] Now when you're not used to passing stuff off, when you, when you gotta figure out who's passing it from the front of the covers to the back of the covers, then you got areas where you can break down.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's, they're not as a good, they're not a good team in terms of, of zone because they don't run it that much.


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[Assistant] Well, we recruited him out of high school, and I remember him sitting in my office during the spring, uh, spring game, and then all of a sudden going into his senior year,


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[Assistant] I'll, I'll take a shot at this, but if I'm going to be the backup, then I'm going to transfer out. And so reach out to us. And uhm, you know, the crazy thing was we had to, we had to have him sit out a year because Pitt would not release him.


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[Assistant] And I remember, you know, him saying like, I know I could have gone to Iowa and Rutgers and those places, but I know the single most important thing for me is I gotta play.


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[Assistant] If I play, I can prove myself. And so he sat out a year and then the next year he got a chance to play and he played fairly well, but the team's overall success was just average. And then the next year is when things really exploded.


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[Assistant] I remember after he got drafted, he came in the office, we sat for a while, and I said, you know, someday I'm gonna be talking to a group of businessmen or a youth group or recruits. And they're gonna ask me about Joe Flacco. Like, tell me what, you know, I should say made you great. And he goes, I'm not afraid to fail.


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[Assistant] Most important characteristic for his success was he wasn't afraid to fail.


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[Assistant] And I think that's very true. I mean, the Super Bowl, I know there was a fourth and one and, and, uh, he could either run it or throw it and he didn't even blink about throwing the ball out there. He wasn't afraid to, you know, not make that play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so he's a unique guy. I tell you, the interesting thing was, uhm, he came in to see me after his junior year and wanted to play baseball.


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[Assistant] And I can sometimes be sarcastic as you probably figured out early. And I said, for who? And he goes for Delaware.


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[Assistant] You do realize that you're gonna be a draft choice next year.


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[Assistant] Dead, look me straight in the eye, goes, you truly believe someone's gonna draft me?


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[Assistant] I said yes. I said, this is dad's idea. I know where this is coming from. I got Kirk Sharrock, my offensive coordinator. Uhm, and I said, call dad, tell him not playing baseball. And I explained to him, I said the single most important thing for you is to develop all the things


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[Assistant] That you need to improve on over the spring and also now that we understand your skill set better


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[Assistant] And so long story short, you know, he had a phenomenal spring and started off really hot. And then I remember getting a phone call from the Baltimore Ravens and saying, Hey, you know what? You guys are playing Navy this week.


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[Assistant] We're gonna come down and watch practice. And they came down and watched practice and then we played Navy. I think he threw for over 500 and we scored 54 points or maybe 59 points or whatever it was. He threw for 5 touchdowns. I mean that game just absolutely catapulted him.


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[Assistant] Uh, right to another level. And as the season was going on, you heard that, hey, he could be a fourth round pick. Hey, he could be a third round pick.


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[Assistant] He could be a second round pick and then all of a sudden there was even talk about him becoming a first round pick. And then obviously he went number 18 overall. And I remember getting a phone call from, from Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] Uh, about, you know, Joe's leadership skills. And Joe, Joe prepped me. Joe goes, listen coach, they want to know why I wasn't a captain. And it was like one of those things where we had a...


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[Assistant] Great four-year starter, uh, offensive line, he was an All-American, and we had another all-time, you know, greatest running back in the history of the program, and those two guys were the offensive captains, and just Joe got there a little late, and just Joe wasn't the captain. But I explained it to Coach Harbaugh that this was Joe's team. When Joe spoke, boy, everyone listened. Now Joe didn't speak a lot, but when he spoke,


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[Assistant] It was like, that's the message I'm removed for. We're playing Northern Iowa, number one team in the country.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we're down early bad. I mean, it's like they're, they're just going to run us right out. And I remember Joe getting all the guys together in the sidelines and hey, just someone make a play. We make one play. We're back in this thing.


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[Assistant] And our freshman left tackle cut their defensive end loose and he, Joe made the play, Joe ran away and threw one 50 yards downfield for a completion and.


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[Assistant] There, you know, that was the big play we needed. We went and scored, got a turnover, scored again and all of a sudden, you know, we beat the number one team in the country. But I remember Joe getting those guys on the sideline and him, you know, saying, hey, this is what we're doing. But, uh, he doesn't speak a lot, but when he speaks, boy, it's, he's powerful.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a two couple things. First of all, we're, we're, we're in a scrimmage and he pulled the ball down and our fastest linebacker was chasing him and he's running away from our fastest linebacker. And I said to the guys, I said, did


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[Assistant] Kyandere gets slow or what's going on? He goes, no, Joe, Joe's phenomenal athlete coach. I mean, he's like a four, seven, 40, almost at six foot seven. He's like six, six and a half.


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[Assistant] And so that's one of the moments where I realized what kind of athlete he was. And then we were in a spring practice and we're in the far hash and he throws like a 20 yard out route on the other side of the field. And I remember the, the referee looking at me cause I was on the field and I was, you know, spring practice. I was behind the play.


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[Assistant] And the referee looked at me and goes, I've never seen that before. So there are some moments where you go, boy, his talent is just ridiculous. I remember his workout for the, for the Ravens. They came and


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[Assistant] They must have brought like two receivers, quarterback coach, O coordinator, uhm, you know, player personnel, general manager. I mean, there was about 10 people they brought with them and he had his footballs all out there. And I remember I prepped them for this. I said, they're not going to let you throw your own balls. I'm going to tell you right now.


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[Assistant] And so they kicked the balls away and they put all these brand new footballs out there, all shiny. You know, quarterbacks hate those balls. And Joe didn't blink. And Joe went through a two and a half hour workout. And I remember talking to one of the scouts and he goes,


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[Assistant] He goes, this is as good a workout as I've ever seen a quarterback. At the very end, they asked him to stand flat-footed on the goal line and just flat-footed throwing it. He threw it, uh, 80 yards in the air.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he just sees, he's a freakish talent. He really is. When I first saw Joe...


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[Assistant] I mean, he's down here a little bit, and I thought about changing a little bit of his, and I saw how the ball came out of his hand, I'm like,


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[Assistant] He's six foot seven. Who cares he's down here? Who cares he isn't up here? Uhm, so anyway, I pretty much left Joe alone and just sort of put him around, you know, good people and, and great players and, and, uh, let him take it over from there. But, uh, yeah, unique personality. He really is. I mean, again, has a very high competence level in himself.


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[Assistant] And uh, that was a big deal that when he went into the Ravens and he heard what their offer was, he was like, yeah.


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[Assistant] I think I can do better. I'll just bet on myself. I'll have a great year. And he went out and won a Super Bowl. And that, you know, got him the biggest contract in the history of the NFL at the time.


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[Assistant] No, two things. So, so I went down to the Texans game when he was with Denver and he actually wasn't playing that week. He was injured and my wife and I got a chance to spend a bunch of time with him on the sideline and you know, they're talking


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[Assistant] Grandkids and kids and things like that back and forth. And you know, my wife asked like, okay, hey Joe, how long you think you're going to do this? And he goes, I love, I love practice. I love being in the locker room.


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[Assistant] And so that was one of the key things that said to me, like, he'll play as long as he feels that he can still play.


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[Assistant] But I texted with him, uhm, in the summertime. I think it was just after I was back East and I had just come back to Texas for the start of training camp.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I just said, hey, you know, I think I had a chance to see you, you know, how you doing? What's up? He goes, I'm at the beach. I'm in shape, you know, ready to get called up because I want to keep on playing. And so right there, I knew that, you know, he was going to prep himself every single day. So this, this in his mind was not a surprise.


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[Assistant] He probably was daily working out, getting ready for this opportunity. And uhm, like I said, when I heard him say that, when he was with the Broncos and we caught up, uh, down at, uh, NRG Stadium down in Texas, I knew that he was going to take this as long as he still enjoyed it. And it sounds like he still enjoys it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you just word again, uniquely. I mean, he's not like, he's not gonna let his ego get in the way here.


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[Assistant] He's been around long enough, he's enough savvy to know this is not his team. But in the moment, they need him to lead.


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[Assistant] And so he'll speak when he needs to speak and he'll make sure that he's not going to be too overt where he's trying to take things over. And that's just his general leadership skill. I mean, he never, he never was one of those guys that some guys are trying to always look for that opportunity to lead. Like, oh hey, there's an opportunity, I'm going to insert myself.


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[Assistant] Joe inserts himself when he feels there's a need to insert himself. So it's very much of a natural leadership. It's not a, uhm,


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[Assistant] Go overboard and, and, and rock the boat or, or create any issues. That's why he probably was the perfect guy to bring in. Still has a skill set where he can sling the ball all over the field. Uhm, and is the kind of person that like just will, will mold into whatever the situation is.


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[Assistant] And so we're out there for about two and a half hours just talking about, you know, football and life and they had won the Super Bowl and there's interesting things that went along with that. They had fired their offensive coordinator during that run and all those things. We're talking about that. And so about two and a half hours into it, I see him start reaching for his wallet in which he forgot. And, and so it's like, you're buying, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he loves the game so much, and he loves to talk about football. I mean, I know, you know,


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[Assistant] I think maybe commentating might be, you know, more, uh, something he would do, but he does love the game so much. Uhm, but you know, also these guys look at us and they realize the hours we put in, you know, I mean, I've been married 38 years.


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[Assistant] I think maybe it will be the pro game because the college game has just changed so dramatically.


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[Assistant] CEO-ish being a head coach is very CEO-ish more than actually coaching the players. It's more managing the climate, managing the expectations, um, you know, setting the culture, you know, all those kinds of things. Those are the most important things now, uh, to be a head college football coach. The X's and O's are such a small part of it.


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[Assistant] Thanks guys. Appreciate you. Coach Keillor. That was great.


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[Assistant] Dr. Michael Royzen at the Cleveland Clinic, the founding chair of integrative wellness, been on the Oprah Winfrey show 53 times, says the number one thing to flush and detox your brain and liver is the black coffee bean.


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[Assistant] I did not believe in that. I did not drink coffee at all. He says to drink six to eight cups a day. Wow. From my old choices of professions. Is this caffeinated or decaffeinated? It's both, but the black coffee being caffeinated is one of the main things to flush and detox my liver and my brain. So with the cognitive decline that I've had,


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's, this is one of the things that I've put into one of my main part of my modified intermittent fasting. And then...


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[Assistant] Yeah. There it is! Wow! And at this time of the year, it's sunny out today, but we're all vitamin D deficient.


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[Assistant] So be able to infuse vitamin D into the black coffee bean. So that's what you've done? Yeah, I've infused vitamin D and because I'm not a drinker anymore, uhm, and trying to modulate inflammation, one of the main things to modulate inflammation in red wine is resveratrol, a massive antioxidant.


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[Assistant] And instead of getting that in wine, I've patented the process to be able to patent and put resveratrol, an antioxidant and vitamin D in a black coffee bean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this time, I mean, seriously, this time of year, it's not here to pitch a product. I mean, this from the health and wellness with COVID, with the flu season.


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[Assistant] But somebody like myself that was highly medicated, I mean to be on a morning show and be decently cognitive to enunciate, articulate, communicate, I wasn't able to do that years ago, so.


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[Assistant] Being able to figure out healthy alternatives and things like optimizing your D-level right now. Simple kind of things to put your body in a healthy perspective.


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[Assistant] And the black coffee bean now to kind of flush and detox me to be able now to be cognitively present and, you know, this time of the year with, uh, you know, we've talked a lot about just last week, there was over a hundred people that died in the state of Ohio from the overdose deaths.


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[Assistant] out there to kind of bring you back to life and being cognitively present. So on top of it is healthy for me and it's helped me. Uhm, some of the money that we raise with this is being able to be


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[Assistant] You know, we've talked about, uh, the suicide rates and some of my teammates and ex-friends, Chagrin High School graduate, Notre Dame graduate.


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[Assistant] So these are tough subjects to talk about at this time of the year, and I'd really rather talk about how awesome Joe Flacco and our Cleveland Browns are trending towards, you know, playoffs for this 2020 season.


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[Assistant] You don't have to overly do it as strict, and I call it modified intermittent fasting, because food is your medicine, juicing with the Vitamix. You know, I was, I got up to quite a few ho-hos north of 320. Wow. Back a half dozen years ago, so.


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[Assistant] The coffee and the flushing and the detoxing of it has actually helped modulate my weight loss too.


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[Assistant] I've lost, yeaah, I'm back down to my plane weight when I came to Cleveland in 1985 at 210.


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[Assistant] Right, and now it's again, it's about trying to help out people and bring back this message and join in a wellness community at a time now when, you know, it's easy to want to sit here and say, hey, I'm cool, everything's perfect, everything's going great.


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[Assistant] We know sometimes that there's people out there at home watching, struggling, that can maybe use a positive message. And not just a message, but some things that you could do simply in your daily routine to give you physical and cognitive health.


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[Assistant] I'm talking about, I'm gonna really show my age, the great Don Strock came here and played really good. He did, it was amazing. And to see Joe Flackland, I'm great friends with Don Strock and was a direct person involved in that and know how impressive it was, what he did.


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[Assistant] And it's even more impressive what Joe Flacco is doing. I mean, we sat here last week, and it wasn't me trying to be amplified and be.


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[Assistant] Excited for TV right here. I genuinely loved how he was playing and what he did.


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[Assistant] out with the Rams and then for him to come here this past Sunday and really dominate again and show his clutchness.


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[Assistant] And his confidence in the pocket, his presence for again, we said last week being on the couch two weeks ago, let me alter it now with my cognitive recovery and say now he's been on the couch three weeks ago, still to sit in that pocket and have that patience off of that play action pass.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and make those plays like he's thrown. And with his arm talent, being so strong,


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[Assistant] Absolutely must really be there. Cause his footwork and confidence in the pocket is so sturdy. So you can tell mentally, he knows what he's doing. And he's only been here two and a half weeks. So the couple with a 38 year old who still has arm talent.


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[Assistant] With a mental capacity that he's already almost engulfed the knowledge of the offense. His presence back, it's, it's gorgeous to watch. We're going to, we're going to have a fun holiday season here capping up the 2023 year.


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[Assistant] So first, I gotta keep saying, I feel like I'm Coach Callahan's marketing grandpa. Could a guy be doing any better job? I mean, the depth chart, how far down the totem pole we are in terms of personnel and stuff. And then to see, again, Joe Flacco, confidently and sturdy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, standing in the pocket. That's a direct correlation to great offensive line play.


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[Assistant] There is no team that wants to, if Myles Garrett and Denzel stay healthy, or get healthier, and this line with what Coach Callahan is doing, there's no team that wants to play us, you know, down the road. But to your point, with uhm,


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[Assistant] Findin' street free agents on the line right now. I'm not gonna question what, uh, Coach Callahan's doin' cause he's just put, I think he could put one of us four in there. Okay, and he's gonna have some moderate success with what they're doing. I think I'd have to be a center.


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[Assistant] Coming in towards the end, halfway part of the season, towards the latter, the second half of the year, makes it sustainable, makes it less of a statistical challenge to what you're trying to articulate there. Just the sheer numbers of games that he has to play, right?


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[Assistant] I also believe too, and I'm not trying to pick on a Jets, I'm not trying to pick on last year and that stuff, but let's be blunt that the Jets offensive line was woeful last year and they're still struggling with those issues and here we are, albeit we do have injuries on ours.


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[Assistant] This isn't just Homerville talking about Callahan and the, and the Brownsville line. We've been sturdy and stout in our offensive line. So that is massively different for a quarterback right now. So he isn't taking the hits that he took with the Jets. So we could probably kick the can a little longer on his health being long.


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[Assistant] Uh, being sustainable with that. So I, I want to land on the positive side of that. And I actually think him not probably playing.


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[Assistant] And overthrowing through August, September, October is probably going to allow him to be strong and actually I think get better as, as this goes on. So I'm actually excited. I'm actually more excited for it.


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[Assistant] Oh absolutely, yeaah. That's part of my optimism with him. He's, he's...


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[Assistant] Mentally solid at two and a half weeks. It's absolutely gonna keep


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[Assistant] So, Laje Moore from St. Thomas Aquinas down in Fort Lauderdale where my kids went to school. Big fan of him.


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[Assistant] Look, Amari Cooper is special in what he's been doing, and he's a tough guy.


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[Assistant] He is taking hits and those last couple weeks, especially that rib shot a couple weeks ago. So, you know, he's been a tough guy, his hips. Uhm, I can't believe he's really getting open and making the stats and yak that he's doing right now. So I actually think it's as much.


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[Assistant] Well, hearing things, hearing things, and then, heck, when I was unhealthy with some chronic rib conditions,


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[Assistant] You know, heck, when you're healthy or out of shape, you breathe heavy, you lose a little focus.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's just a natural, it's, it's, and I'm not, it's not at all, I believe, a fear factor. Right. But when you're running and tired and you're not used to it and your ribs are hurting, you could lose a little focus and the drop types up. Sure.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a real tough one for a receiver. To get down there, beat press coverage, get the release, press the technique, get 18 yards, which is 56, you know.


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[Assistant] Oh, so me and Leroy had a great rapport and I love what he's doing, um, uh, life-wise now in the industry and how he's, he's kept his health and wellness together. And that's part of where I believe Joe Flacco, Kareem Hunt, and what we're talking about as you start getting, uh, comfortable in the system and understanding. Me and Leroy had a great rapport.


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[Assistant] It's a glorified safe run and he's doing it with such calmness and with such presence and you hear the Mannings talk about it in the Manning cast how in zone and I'm, I wanna look you guys in the eye and I don't wanna look stupid on air.


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[Assistant] But you know, I'm looking up and I'm looking out there. So I'll look here at the camera. And I know I'm looking down a field.


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[Assistant] And Joe Flacco, I absolutely could see that on the snap, he could see the safety, and he already knows it's probably my check down because it's zoned.


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[Assistant] But he keeps his eyes up there and he allows the backers to expand and allows the coverages to widen and then he hits the check down. That's when I hit Leroy. Okay, and now you've got space and now you're able to run. He's gonna get way, he's been good. I think he's gonna get better at that right now and with the way we're running the ball.


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[Assistant] Well, it's rare for a quarterback to only be in your house for two and a half weeks and he is a coach on the field. So yes is the short answer. Yes is the short answer to it is rare.


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[Assistant] And yes, we're super blessed to have that gift going on. And we're, look, we're living this in the present. You know, not to get macro here, but a lot of times we want to worry when we don't live in the present.


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[Assistant] This century has been a challenge around the holidays to enjoy Brown's playoff football and have this optimism on December 14th. Genuine optimism. This isn't F&E.


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[Assistant] This isn't false enthusiasm. This is genuine. We could play football and there's 31 NFL teams that don't want to play football against the Cleveland Browns in January.


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[Assistant] There's no way anybody wants to play Cleveland Browns with Joe Flacco and Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward. There's nobody who wants to play us right now.


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[Assistant] Hey, how about, uh, the David Nujoku? I gotta give a shout out to the way he's been playing. The dominant tight end like that. I mean catching the ball and the touchdown catches.


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[Assistant] The significance of the edge running game that we're doing because of these tackle situations and coach Stefanski, uh, you know, took a lot of criticism in September and stuff. What he's doing with the tight ends and helping to mask the young tackle situation.


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[Assistant] And then, lookit, Chief is catching touchdown passes and it goes unnoticed what he's doing in a running game. We're dominating the edge on those belly plays and those outside runs.


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[Assistant] Kareem and Pierre Strong and, and Ford are doing, and that's massively impressive and imperative to the, the offense itself.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, this is one of my favorite things of spending time with him is over the years, back to the Baker days, is talking about what a tight end and back does from learning with my Kevin Mack, Ernest Biner, Leroy Hoard, Eric Medcalf days, Ozzie Newsome.


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[Assistant] Matter of fact, against zone and or man, if you know what you're doing, you have a way better chance of getting it. So especially in two minute drills and especially when you're spread out like that. So to have talked with Chief about that through the course of his career, he's mastered it now and that synergy.


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[Assistant] That, that he has with, uh, his quarterbacks now, that's gonna get better too.


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[Assistant] As the, uh, season comes. And with the bad weather coming!


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[Assistant] And with the running game, we embrace it this time of the year with the running game and play action, cause that deep draws with Joe's arm, the way he gets things to expand, and then hits the check down. Go tackle Chief Kareem Hunt Ford in space now. That was the old principles of


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[Assistant] Leroy Hoard, Kevin Mack, Ernest Biner, Ozzie Newsome. This is, this is gonna be a lot of fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Again, I feel like I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, I must be the Browns ownership representative here talking about, I don't want to play any other team, I don't want to play the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] In January right now with our running game, with our defense right now. So the ceiling, again, I, I, people are going to say I'm just saying this because I'm positive and stuff. I typically off air this whole century. I've never seen you this high.


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[Assistant] And when the camera's off, I still will be. Okay? The ceiling is, we have a chance this year. With Joe Flacco and a healthy Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. Nobody wants to play us right now.


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[Assistant] Concur, I'd actually take it even a step further. Us veteran quarterbacks, I say that you matter. I talk about self-confidence. I talk about self-esteem. Us men up here, we all want to pretend we're all perfect and always have it. Us QBs for sure want to pretend we always have it.


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[Assistant] I believe Joe Flacco's presence in the locker room and on the team will be really helpful to John Watson's comeback and his competence and presence and how he assimilates into this.


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[Assistant] We all could benefit from having Joe Flacco around. Absolutely. And a veteran quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Deshawn I believe will be absolutely secure himself in his own position and having a Joe Flacco around with a Deshawn Watson will be, I think, would be awesome too. Besides it, and then the groom at DTR, I mean, there's a, there's a beautiful trilogy right there. So I've already signed him. Okay, so that's- I love it. No, I love it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Hanford and stuff. So, you know, it's a, it's, I'm so blessed to be cognitively back and present and feeling good and be able to get out this time of the year and kind of give back to people. It's just, it's a great blessing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we understand that Trevor Lawrence is hurt. We're going to wait to get a little more information on the severity of it. There were some reports this morning that's just a sprained ankle, which we've seen quarterbacks come back on short notice, but we'll talk plenty about Trevor Lawrence throughout the week. I'll be stunned if you play Sunday.


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[Assistant] When we speculate on injuries, we typically are very wrong.


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[Assistant] The full floor, he was born in 84, so he's 39 years old. So we've done the Bucky game in the past.


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[Assistant] So we've done the bucket game in a couple different iterations in the past. We did Donovan Mitchell threes, we've done...


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[Assistant] Uh, Deshaun Watson touchdown passes versus former Cleveland Browns quarterback. So I figured we'd have some fun with Joe, but we're going to do it by ourselves now. Then we're going to do it with Joe later. So Joe can have the floor and he can do this himself. You guys remember the bucket game? Essentially blackjack.


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[Assistant] And you have to add up all the others like Blackjack. You want to get as close to without going over. So in Joe Thomas' Hall of Fame career, he played in 10,363 consecutive snaps. 10,363 consecutive snaps. How many other first round picks?


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[Assistant] That the Browns have made since 2011 because that's as far back as I could find snap count data.


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[Assistant] Can you add together to equal 10,360 beer snaps?


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[Assistant] So Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Mingo, and Cameron Irving. Does that equal to Thomas?


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[Assistant] Johnny Menzel, Barcavius Mingo, Cameron Irving and Brandon Whedon. Does that equal?


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[Assistant] Alright, there's Joe Thomas, Equal, Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Mingo, Cameron Irving, Brandon Weedon, Justin Gilbert, and Corey Coleman.


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[Assistant] So you're still, you're still hittin' there. You're still hittin'. Okay. This is Joe Thomas, Johnny Manziel, Barcavius, Mingo, Cameron Irving, Brandon Weedon, Justin Gilbert, Corey Coleman, and Danny Shelton.


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[Assistant] More than halfway there. Joe Thomas equal Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Mingo, Cameron Irving, Brandon Weeden, Justin Gilbert, Corey Coleman, Danny Shelton and Phil Taylor.


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[Assistant] Next up, Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Mingo, Cameron Irving, Brandon Weeden, Justin Gilbert, Corey Coleman, Danny Schellen, Phil Taylor, and Jabril Peppers.


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[Assistant] I'll ask the question. You guys can answer whatever you want. Call your shot. Are the Browns, or will the Browns be, excuse me, in the AFC Playoffs when all is said and done? They're currently


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[Assistant] We're going to move on to Denzel Ward here, but I want to read one comment from the chat. I don't always get a chance to look at the chat, especially when they're not super chats, but I wanted to see how the crowd reacted to Earl's 5-0 take and Redhead Stepchild said, Earl, don't you dare put that take on the Kool-Aid, bro. The Kool-Aid mafia rejects that.


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[Assistant] We put a poll up and said, will the Browns go 5-0 or is Earl crazy? Earl, we love you, but 78% of the chat says you're, uh, you're trippin' here.


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[Assistant] Denzel Ward has missed the last two games for the Browns. The defense is taking a step back without him. I know I for one and hand up my bad.


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[Assistant] I underestimated how important Denzel Ward was to this defense. I knew he was a great player, but I thought they'd be okay and be able to sustain


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[Assistant] A level of defense that was above where they'd been and I was wrong. And I apologize Denzel, I underestimated you.


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[Assistant] The brown sack leaders, believe it or not, Myles Garrett obviously led the way. He had 16 sacks last year. Taven Bryan had 3.


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[Assistant] Dion Jones, remember him? He had two and a half.


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[Assistant] Jordan Elliott had two, Clowney had two, and Jacob Phillips had two, which Steve, take 89 fold real quick.


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[Assistant] There's a slight step up. Oggo is three and a half. Tomlinson has three, which would have been second. He tied Taven Bryan. But other than that, it depends where Ogbo is going.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you guys this, and I'm not saying Denzel is a better player than Miles. Like if you're going off a hypothetical rating, Miles is a better overall player.


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[Assistant] By the people in the chat. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. We appreciate you. Anthony's on a 30 second delay cause he's clipping. So he just heard what's going on and he's laughing now. So we appreciate y'all. If you're in the chat, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. We got Joe Thomas and Mary Kay Cabot coming up in a sec. Here's how we're doing PFF Grades today, guys. You guys each got two players.


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[Assistant] And we're gonna start with Jay, then we're gonna go to Earl, then we're gonna bowl, then we'll repeat. Okay. Jay, I'm gonna ask you for your grade.


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[Assistant] You give us a grade, then I'll show you what PFF did, and then Jay, I mean then Bull and Earl will vote on who had a better grade for that said player. Are you guys ready? Jay, your first player?


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[Assistant] Alright, Earl, you're up next, and your first player is Elijah Moore. What grade would Earl the Pearl give Elijah Moore for his breakout performance against the Rams?


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[Assistant] What'd you think of Anthony Walker's performance against the Los Angeles Rams? His first game back after missing Denver.


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[Assistant] But with a 83.9, the second highest grade of brown in the entire game.


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[Assistant] You did. Harrison Bryant, the highest graded Browns player against LA. We've got two more. Earl, you're up next.


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[Assistant] 59-4 for the record, the only defensive pictures taken of any Browns player in this game was them chasing Pooka Nakula. If you notice that none of our defensive player montages are updated, that's because there were no pictures updated on our picture website except Browns players chasing Pooka Nakula.


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[Assistant] There's been a material change in Earl's mind, and he has now switched to PFF.


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[Assistant] Aaron Donald, just for the record. Graded out in 85. So I'm not sure how much those two particularly.


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[Assistant] Uh, matched up in how the one-on-one graded out, but Wyatt Teller, just for comparison's sake, graded out with a 71.1. So he was almost spot on to a post at Betonio.


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[Assistant] Oh Earl, I got you brother, I got you, you ready? This was tweeted out this morning, I saw it and saved it. Since week 9, Dewan Jones has been in 150 pass blocking situations. 150 since week 9. One sack allowed.


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[Assistant] PFF Grades for Dewan Jones and we got Mary Kay, so bring it in one sec.


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[Assistant] Really good. Which is where in the AFC? Uh, you get to give me a little sec to sort of- It's probably not top ten.


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[Assistant] Fan to an official partner of the NFL. An official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. And the 12 o'clock hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is our Hall of Fame hour today. We have Joe Thomas joining us in half an hour. And we start with our resident Hall of Famer. It is Mary Kay Cabot. What's up, Mary Kay?


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[Assistant] We're gonna hop right into the conversation you brought up with Mary Kay. Just a quick reminder that tomorrow night, they'll be behind the glass on Friday. We're on WKYC. If you're in the chat, watch it, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. We appreciate every single one of you guys who do this for you. Jay, you asked the question to Mary Kay, so I'll...


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[Assistant] Ask it to you guys, it's the timeline of events. Deshaun got his surgery prior to the game. He was on the field. See if you take tag board full. Sean Dunn again, the phenomenal folk dog up at channel three, got this picture of Deshaun on the field with his teammates before the game against the Rams. Then he moved up to the box.


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[Assistant] Do you guys have any issue with the Sean watching from the box, or do you think he should have been on the sideline like Joe Burrow?


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[Assistant] We only have three and then hopefully Joe Thomas joins us here any minute. He texted me back this morning so I know he knows and he is the link.


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[Assistant] First one comes from Trizzy T. Just a heads up guys, Browns are still the sixth seed according to ESPN due to winning the head-to-head matchup against the Colts. ESPN's got it wrong. ESPN's wrong actually, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He was. That's a fact. He was on the sideline for that game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, circumstances change every- like, and I told Earl before, he could have been still on, like, pain pills, and just wasn't ready to be fully around, like, as he recovers from surgery. You got surgery 10 days before, like, that's not- Yeah, I hope he's-


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[Assistant] And last, Colin Keith, I just said, I, I don't know, like, who knows? Like, we have no idea. Colin Keith said toe drag, toe drag swag is from Good Morning Football, but shout out to Mary Kay for bringing it up here, so. I never watched that show.


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[Assistant] We're going to continue our hall of fame hour. We started with Mary Kay Cabot and now we're going to welcome in the one, the only, the left tackle of all left tackles. It is Joe Thomas. What's up, Joe?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Joe, so I pitched this to Jay Gruder when he came on. Jay Gruder was a big fan of this set. It might be flagged, but you could be the judge. You give a defense a tackle a knife.


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[Assistant] I'll explain it real quick. So, Joe, I'm assuming at least once in your life you've played blackjack, correct?


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[Assistant] So the premise of this game is essentially Blackjack. I'm gonna give you a number you have to get to. I'm gonna explain what the, the parameters are, but don't go over. You tell me when you're done, you don't want another one, and that is the top.


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[Assistant] So you played in your illustrious career, 10,363 consecutive snaps.


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[Assistant] We're gonna see how many other first round picks the Browns have made since 2011. When you combine their total snap counts in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Combined to equal 10,363. So just like Blackjack, I'll give you a card. You tell me, either hit or stay, just like we would in Blackjack.


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[Assistant] Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Minko, and Cameron Irving. 10,363 snaps.


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[Assistant] Johnny Manziel, Barcavius Mingo, Cameron Irvin, Brandon Whedon, and Justin Gilbert.


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[Assistant] I'm doing the mental math here. Joe, you were very close.


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[Assistant] The answer is he's short, unfortunately. You need a one more player. Add your bro peppers. I was trying to see how much those eight added up to, but those eight, and I can do it on the fly here, added up to, Oh, you were close Joe. You missed it by a thousand. Those eight.


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[Assistant] Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton, Corey Coleman, Justin Gilbert, Brandon Wheaton, Cameron Irving, Barcavius Mingo, and Johnny Manziel added up to 9,101 snaps. If you added Jabril Peppers, that was where the correct official blackjack lands. That would have been 9,900.


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[Assistant] No, Peppers put you with Peppers, so Manziel, Mingo, Irving, Weeding, Gilbert, Coleman, Shelton, Taylor, Peppers, 10,220 career snaps.


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[Assistant] Send me your text me and we'll make sure we tweet it out for you.


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[Assistant] Well, guys, we asked and we received. That's why the UCSS viewers are the best. We have Bald Earl in the DTR fit. So our guy Kyle Brenner sent this to us. He said his toughest edit yet.


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[Assistant] And are you ready for the debut of Bald Earl in the DTR fit? Bald Earl Puffycoat. Steve, let's do this. Let's see it.


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[Assistant] And, and not just Kyle. So this is from Kyle. We also had someone send in a submission. This is cdub711 on Twitter.


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[Assistant] I ain't, I ain't doing it. And then after the game, he said, we got a lot of bad habits. We got to get up out of here. And that's when he started.


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[Assistant] He's not LeBron in his prime. You know, he's not at that level. But he's a really good player. He's a really, really good player.


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[Assistant] This is a big year for him. This is a really important year for him. And that's the thing, like,


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[Assistant] Now, Darius has not played well for most of this year. He's struggled with turnovers at times. He's struggled with the shot. He's fought some injuries, which is always the thing with Darius. He's always fighting injuries.


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[Assistant] I think it's an A. I think they nailed it. They nailed the, they nailed the signing. I wasn't sure.


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[Assistant] I mean, you can see a lot of heavy dose of Diamond here down the stretch. It's usually how it goes in tight games like this on the road.


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[Assistant] Excuse me, I think they were a 10 or 10 and a half point dog Tuesday, so I don't know what changed why they, why they were a point closer tonight than they were on Tuesday.


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[Assistant] What are you gonna draw up to do exactly what you just said, to give yourself a good look? Uh, they, they need a couple good looks. They're down nine, but...


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[Assistant] As we look at JOK right here at this middle linebacker, he gets in there and engages with the 300 pound guard and still makes this play. I don't think guys understand. This guy is listed at 220 pounds.


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[Assistant] Well, film study is a big part of it. Let's look at JOK on this sack right here. This is one of those moments, you know, when you look at film and you say to yourself, okay, when this play comes up, I'm going for it. And that's exactly what this was. JOK saw this formation.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're loving him. Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] I know this would only be partly your decision, but in a new lakefront plan does that involve a new stadium for the Browns?


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[Assistant] We're on a sports show, so I have to ask if we'd be remiss if we didn't, but...


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[Assistant] What was Mayor Bibb's NBA comp when you were a basketball player back in ninth, tenth grade?


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[Assistant] You gotta get him out on your, uh, your pick up games. I run in East Cleveland twice a week if you ever want to come out and play. Alright, I might pull up. Matt, wherever you are. I might pull up. I might pull up. I might pull up.


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[Assistant] I'm going to read this off my phone because I wrote it all out. This is exactly how it would go. Zero questions, 100% guaranteed. So let's just pretend they draft.


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[Assistant] He might have been decent early in his career, but the Browns as a team, they would have looked better. Would have looked better, but eh, minimally better. So, I think in this case, for the sake of argument, they still would have had the first pick in 2017.


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[Assistant] They took Myles Garrett. Myles Garrett's phenomenal. We love Myles Garrett.


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[Assistant] But because you have a dynamic tight end, you need to pair them up with a quarterback. So they draft Patrick Mahomes first overall in 2017. Now remember, they had a 12th overall pick in that draft too. Which in this instance, they still trade. And they need a pass rusher, right? So instead of drafting Jabril Preppers, they take TJ Watt.


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[Assistant] So now we got TJ Watt, Patrick Mahomes, and Travis Kelce. And when you draft Travis Kelce, I mean Patrick Mahomes, Joe Thomas says,


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[Assistant] I'm not retiring, I gotta protect my rookie. So Joe Thomas is still playing in this scenario too. Andy Reid is a free agent during this time. He looks around, he goes, I need a young quarterback. I like this Mahomes kid. Enough that I would have traded out for him in Kansas City. I'm gonna go coach the Chiefs, I mean coach the Browns.


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[Assistant] We win seven straight Super Bowls. Oh wow, seven. Seven straight.


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[Assistant] You tell me they still draft Nick Chubb the next year, you win the Super Bowl from 2018 to 2023, and we are still looking good. Had the Browns drafted Travis Kelsey in 2013, he would have been throwing.


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[Assistant] To sign a one or two year deal with another team to finish out his career.


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[Assistant] I don't know enough about centers. I'll be honest, like, the old centers from the 60s and 70s, sure. Jason Kelsey is as good as I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Every year Mahomes has been a starter, I think five, maybe six now, either five or six. But every year Mahomes has been a starter, they've made the XC Championship. That's crazy. And they've never played a road playoff game. They've never what? Played a road playoff game.


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[Assistant] You can't afford any mistakes at this point, and PJ Walker for his career, 6 touchdowns, 22 turnovers.


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[Assistant] You just can't win, succeed, thrive in any scenario of football no matter how good your defense is if you're giving the ball to the other team two and a half times per game.


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[Assistant] That's 6 touchdowns, that's 22 turnovers. There's not a single metric, stat, analytic, or eye test that can watch PJ Walker play football and be like, that guy can help me with football games. Despite the fact he's 6 and 4's starter, which makes no sense.


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[Assistant] It's closer to four to one than it is to three to one. It makes no sense. And PJ Walker, bless his soul. He's probably a great dude. His teammates love him and that you do get points for that.


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[Assistant] He's a locker room guy, and the guys in the locker room clearly play hard for PJ Walker, and he's tough as shit. We've seen it time after time, like he gets clocked, he gets back up, and that means something, but if you watch the actual football play,


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[Assistant] I can't get out of my head what G said on Monday. He's like a two year old carrying a sippy cup. And you just can't trust a two year old on a white carpet to carry a sippy cup. And right now the brown season is a brand new white carpet, and you can't have that stain or your mom's gonna kill you. And Joe Flacco gives you a better chance of surviving a two year old with a red sippy cup with cranberry juice or something.


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[Assistant] Well, and there's two things. So one, we had Leroy Horton yesterday who said, a veteran quarterback wouldn't get fooled by the Broncos showing eight in the box and then just dropping a guy out. And that's probably why, if Stefanski gave him a run pass option,


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[Assistant] It was so pass heavy. He got, I don't want to say confused because I don't know exactly what he was looking at, but the Broncos definitely deceived him into passing the ball more frequently than running. Joe Flacco's seen everything out of the book. He's been in the league for 18 years. He's not going to be disguised or fooled by that. Secondly, most normal people spend their afternoons doing stuff productively.


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[Assistant] Well yesterday, I was waiting on my boy Jimmy to get in, so I watched three games of the All 22 tape from Flacco last year with the Jets. When he has time to plant his feet and throw the ball,


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[Assistant] He's still okay. Like his arm strength isn't what it used to be in 2012 or 2013, but he's still got a good arm. He showed touch on some passes with the Jets. Numbers weren't great. His last touchdown pass was against the Browns. He didn't throw a touchdown in his final two games.


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[Assistant] What worries me about Flacco is as soon as he had to get off platform, if it wasn't a perfect pocket, if he had to- You're in trouble.


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[Assistant] He went from being passable to not very good and that's why he ended up getting benched. The Jets offensive line last year was an atrocity and Flacco was a sitting duck back there and they decided


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[Assistant] Our best chance to win isn't with Flacco running for his life. It was with Zach Wilson or somebody else. If the line can't hold up, then Joe Flacco's in trouble. But so is PJ Walker. So is DTR and so is Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Against Denver. Me averaged 7 yards of cash. Which is what was so baffling as to why they didn't want the ball more in that game. One thing I am interested to see with Flacco vs. DTR, or if it was Walker. Flacco can let it rip, but we know DTR


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[Assistant] From three feet away throwing a hundred mile an hour fastball. And that's led to, I don't want to blame it all on DTR or the receivers, it's some combination.


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[Assistant] Been a ton of drops the last couple of weeks. Lasco throws a much more, I'll say catchable ball, which probably isn't the right way to phrase it, but.


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[Assistant] Hopefully that helps in joku, more, even coopers dropped a couple.


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[Assistant] Get them back on track, and one thing we haven't seen all season from the Browns, and G, if you could think of an instance when this happened, let me know.


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[Assistant] What if the Browns run a go-route, or some dude shot and got called for a pass interference on the other team? Is it like, just like Courtless? Well, we've only run a handful of go-routes. Well, Joe Flacco may be his best asset, is under-throwing deep balls, and having his receiver have to stop and get in the pass interference call. If they don't at least dial up one, I'm gonna lose my mind on some fancy game on Monday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's what Joe Flacco has done for his career almost better than anyone else. It's not even a skill, it's probably just bad throws that have worked out in his favor, but I need to see them try to go deep, at least stretch the defense so that they're not putting eight guys in the box again. Keep them honest, even if it's...


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[Assistant] And you know who has a common voice as well? Not just Joe Flacco, but Anthony who's going to welcome us with a DB. Very common voice.


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[Assistant] What a story it would be. It would be. Adidi, on the other side of the ball, we have two of the best pass rushers, frankly, of all time in this game between Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna ask you a completely hypothetical question here, but at the peak of each of their powers, so you got the peak Aaron Donald and you got peak Miles Garrett, if you were a NFL GM and had to build a defense around one of those two superstars, who would you choose to build your defense around?


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying, so it's a tough, it's a tough configuration for how the Browns offense is laid out now. You don't have Nick Chubb, you have Jerome Ford who's a little more seasoned but barely than DTR. That's why I think Joe Flacco coming into play in theory can solve a lot of issues just by his pure knowledge and experience.


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[Assistant] I just, I just thought of this, and I hadn't thought of this until you just said that, G. We talk about quarterbacks getting in rhythm, like, hey, we need Deshaun to play a couple games until he shakes off the rust.


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[Assistant] From a play caller standpoint too, Stefanski can't even get in a rhythm with what's working when he's had the rotating circle of quarterbacks, of running backs, even receivers to an extent. I mean, you thought you had Elijah Moore who was going to produce more than he has so far. DPJ was the team's number two, he's gone. He's gone. I mean, Cedric Tillman's come up, so we, Stefanski deserves a fair level of criticism, but maybe


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[Assistant] He also deserves a little bit more of a leash than we give him because just like his players haven't been able to get any consistency, even in practice, he's been going with a constant wave of change as well.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're on our fourth quarterback. What's the realistic expectation? The fact that we're on Joe Flacco. Think about this.


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[Assistant] We're on Joe Flacco, who was in this chair essentially two weeks ago, saying we think the Browns might be able to win a game this Sunday.


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[Assistant] That legitimately is a testament to what Stephansi has done putting this team together. It's Andrew Berry. They have depth, but no one plans for a fourth quarterback. Like they're unforeseen circumstances.


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[Assistant] Throw, chase, they're two tackles. Throwing another name. Maybe Trey Hendrickson's banged up. Like, it goes on and on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we'll start with the Bengals again, but essentially we did before the season. You look at the schedule. Oh, you have the Bengals in week one and 18. That's good or bad. Well, now we have a little bit of information to back up whether or not the schedule of gods played out in the Browns favor or if the Browns kind of got screwed by the schedule. So we'll run through each team. We'll see when they play the Browns home and away and see if the Browns won in 18.


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[Assistant] That was perfect. Big thumbs up. A plus. Perfect. Yeaah. Couldn't have done it better. Next up is Pittsburgh. Week 2. And at Pittsburgh, week 11. What do you guys think about this one?