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[Assistant] What are you talking about? The Browns had running quarterbacks until yesterday. Not at that level!


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[Assistant] Is their quarterback running game is a huge part of what they do. That's going to skew your numbers. If you look at running back, if you look at running back


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[Assistant] Is it fair to say that those numbers are higher because they're quarterbacks run?


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[Assistant] When you look at the Browns, what they have in their running game, okay? The Ravens have Lamar Jackson who's a special runner. Yep.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's, that's pretty. That's, that's gonna be like that. 50 yards a game? Is that the biggest percentage of one team's run game or not? What do you mean? Like, so.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields, what he's giving the Bears running game, is that the biggest percentage of a running game from a quarterback?


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[Assistant] More than any team. They're running backs, they have more running back carries than any team in the NFL. So they should be number one in run, pass, differential? Because I'm gonna shoot that stat down right now. No. The reason they run more than any other team, who leads the league in seven and out, or three and outs? The Browns do. Thank you. More opportunities. That's why they have more runs.


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[Assistant] Not, and I'm not even saying substantially more. I think when I was doing my, my research, I said, gimme


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[Assistant] Five carries more per game. Five to six. So it came up to about 5.5 because they're in such a hole.


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[Assistant] On the, on the games when they overly pass, particularly the last two. You said that you'd give them Baltimore or you'd give them the Denver game. Denver is the only game where there's a legit comparison. They were both, in the two games, they were almost exactly the same numbers. 42 pass, 24 run, 44 pass, 23 run.


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[Assistant] They would not have been in that game without the effective passing game from Joe Flacco. So he threw one pick so now you can point up the stats? But the bottom line is you gave a top five. When you pass, two things, three things can happen and two of them are bad.


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[Assistant] They're now, or, I'm sorry, they could be eight and three?


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[Assistant] Eight, nine and three. The last thing I'll say, the last thing I'll say is, the only game you could argue that it cost them throwing the ball too much is Denver. That's it. Bottom line. So, so Bull, at seven and three, seven and


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[Assistant] The worst pass ratio that you've had all year, L, then you went


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[Assistant] The worst pass ratio of the year. So you think they lost yesterday's game because they threw too much? I think they threw, again, I said this, situationally.


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[Assistant] What did the situation yesterday in that spot call for?


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[Assistant] This team was seven and four! That's right there with San Francisco! It's right there with the top teams!


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[Assistant] Their most run heavy packages of the year. They've lost 29 to 12.


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[Assistant] I want to make sure that I'm very clear on this. In no way am I advocating, even though these numbers got out of whack and they're seven and six.


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[Assistant] In no way am I advocating that Kevin Stefanski must be fired. I had a lot of people texting me yesterday.


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[Assistant] That are diehard Browns fans that were in the emotion, in the mo-, you know, the emotion of the moment. He's gotta go. He's a terrible play caller. Why are we throwing in that situation when we need to run the clock out? All of that. I need to be very clear.


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[Assistant] I am not at that point. I am not. Again, and I stand by this, I think Kevin Stefanski has done an absolute remarkable job.


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[Assistant] Yesterday he was going without his biggest defensive horse in the backfield, defensive end, back end of the defense. He had half a miles Garrett, if that. He didn't even show up in the line score. Uh, and they, even though they were beat by


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[Assistant] more points than they should have. It was a one point game. And if not for miss extra point, you know, with eight minutes to go that game is tied. He's done an incredible job.


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[Assistant] Like you said about Schwartz, you can use the man's name in vain in the micro.


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[Assistant] No one's advocating to get rid of Schwartz because he made some mistakes on defense yesterday. What I'm saying is Stefanski has done an amazing job. There are times where I questioned the play calling, but every play caller in the NFL is questioned a lot. This is not, this is not just a Cleveland problem.


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[Assistant] Take off your two starting tackles. Your all-pro running back.


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[Assistant] And now you've played a couple of games without your best defensive back. And now you're playing with a one arm.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett and Miles Coopers. Guys, it's mind boggling. The job he's done, I'm telling you, I still think he's going to get Coach of the Year votes.


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[Assistant] He's not gonna win it. Depending on what happens from here, if they can somehow right the ship and finish 12 and 5, he's in the conversation.


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[Assistant] Even though I know it's better for them if they lose to get a better draft pick at this point, I still wanted them to win.


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[Assistant] Even if you do get in the playoffs and all the other teams have their quarterbacks, look what happened to San Francisco and they're a well balanced team on both sides of the ball. They were down to QB3 and what happened to them? They got smoked in the NFC championship game.


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[Assistant] So, like, there is a ceiling, you're right. Even as I'm watching this season, like, as odd as this is gonna sound, if Joe Flacco


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[Assistant] Can maintain this level of play. I'd be excited. Without the picks. I'll give them a chance in the playoffs if the defense can refine their fastball. Right. I'll give them a chance. I mean. But without that they have


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[Assistant] It's hard to argue that the result would be different. I will say this, going back to the Joe Flacco pick. If the game is tied instead of 2019, maybe he feels a little less pressure to


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[Assistant] Fire that ball downfield and maybe he's more likely to take a check down. I don't know. Now Jay would argue, again, that, well, the game plan there should be to move the clock slowly. I think when you're losing, you don't worry about the clock or running clock until you're already in position to score, not when you're starting the drive. Even if it's only one point and a field goal will win it?


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[Assistant] I don't think you want to be thinking about, with six and a half minutes to go, killing the clock, because if you do go three and out, well maybe you wasted two minutes of time. You can't waste time until you're in scoring position. You still have three timeouts though. I hear ya, but. If you do, and I wouldn't have expected them to do back to back three and outs, that's why I didn't want to see the defense again.


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[Assistant] Maybe there's part of Flacco that if the game is tied, he feels some less pressure to get the ball. I see what you're saying. You'll never know. I can't say they would have won the game if he kicks that extra point. That's not fair. But that didn't cost them the game. It could have factored in. It turned out not to cost them the game.


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[Assistant] Perfect. That must have been when I heard it. You know I heard it yesterday. Okay, yeaah. Torico said after he had hit a kick that he's perfect on the season. Boy, you talk about a luxury.


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[Assistant] It's tough, man. I mean. Well, that's why I'll never, you know, and McPherson, the Bengals kickers missed a couple of kicks this year, a couple last year, but when it mattered in the playoffs, he made every kick. He's never missed in the playoffs, has he? I don't think so. That's insane. Cause I know the first year, I think it was like 50. The year they went to the Super Bowl, he didn't miss and he had a lot of 50 yarders.


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[Assistant] He called, he called him Coramora every time he mentioned his name.


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[Assistant] I know it did. They got lucky that it went in. Fairly went in the end zone. Very, very lucky. So you're right on that. Special teams, uhm, have been mid to me. I think the kicker's been above average, but the kick game...


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[Assistant] I imagine they'll do scans or tests, whatever they need to today. I would assume that Ward should, like, they didn't put him on IR, so you would assume he'd be back, you know, either this game or next.


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[Assistant] He's missed two games. Two full games, right? Two full games. Two full games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but as we've seen with that whole thing, sometimes you have hopes that a player is going to be ready in four weeks, so you keep them active and you lose the spot and then they end up not being able to come back. I mean, I don't have any


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[Assistant] Feeling one way or another strongly on Denzel being a warrior or being soft.


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[Assistant] I think when he's able to play, he's played. Um, now he's hurt a lot. I mean, and that's the product of him being 180 pounds or whatever he is. And he doesn't have good form when he tackles. That's always had an issue.


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[Assistant] That's one of the reasons Deon didn't want to get in the mix. Deon was smart enough to know that your body is going to break down. When you're tackling, in some cases, 250 pound tight ends.


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[Assistant] It's, it's living to see another day. It's playing the long game.


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[Assistant] And my fear for Denzel Ward is he gets another concussion or two, and you're talking about, is this it? Oh yes. He's had a lot of concussions.


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[Assistant] Okay, so check, but did not go into protocol. Correct, correct. What's his, do we know how many he's had for this career? Jason and I have talked this all year. I believe it's five. I looked this up earlier. I can remember four, it might have been as many as five. That's a big number. That's a big number. Hey, I'ma say- Most guys are not quitting.


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[Assistant] He might have, he might have seen tendencies in certain situations. Oh, I know, I know Schwartz likes to do this, uh, in this spot, but you're right. There are a lot of, with the coaching movement.


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[Assistant] That happens a lot more frequently than you would think in the NFL. Where there's somebody on the offense that at one point played for that defensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] He hasn't played consistently well in five, six years, or maybe longer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm worried about it. I think you'd be crazy and kidding yourself if you said no, but Bull's right. When was the last time he put together what would be looked at as a really solid season? And I don't mean like a mid season, but upper tier. Flacco was the guy that started the elite debate. It was all centered around Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] What's his name got hurt? But it's not like he's very good. They got second. I mean, the Steelers got destroyed. It wasn't even close. Who would have had the Niners boat racing the Eagles like that? Nobody. I thought the Niners would win, but I thought it would be a close game.


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[Assistant] He was not able to move this at all. And he was walking so gingerly. And I'm like, this dude's shelve. And they came back and ran reverses. It's like Willis Reed coming out of the.


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[Assistant] We all know this, there's different, like, you can put two 58 year olds in a room and one of them can be completely broken down and not able to run in a sprint and the other might be able to do whatever.


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[Assistant] I'll get, give me, I'll put two 42 year olds and say, so age is the number we assign to experience in life, and bodies wax around the sun, but in, in theory,


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[Assistant] He'll show you signs for a couple of games and then it usually goes downhill. But who knows? I mean, listen, with the Jets, it was a terrible offensive line. Yesterday, the offensive line played well. If he can avoid those hits, he's got a better chance to survive. Yeaah. Stay upright, don't take those direct


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[Assistant] You know, Aaron Donald smashes under the chin and you'd be okay.


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[Assistant] Bad decision in a big moment. They happen all the time. Uh, part of the play call was to run a nine there. Obviously that's what he was running and he had other options. I would have loved to have seen them give the ball to Ford there. I just thought that the Rams were in a heavy throw set and that side of the field was wide open.


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[Assistant] Evan, I hate to tell ya, but you can reason with some people and others you can't. And you clearly are immune to reason. So good luck in your life. I hope it's a big success.


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[Assistant] This was the most egregious miss that they had, but I was, I hadn't told anybody.


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[Assistant] I agree with you 100%. What are they supposed to do? Which is why I've been screaming from the moment they went to four. I said, oh!


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[Assistant] Now you're really gonna screw someone. Yeah. Cause before when it was two, which was absurd,


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[Assistant] You, you were screwing three or four teams that had legitimate cases.


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[Assistant] When, when it first came out and they said, we're gonna go to four, I said, wait a minute, you got the ACC, the Pac-12, the Big 12, the Big 10, the Big East, the SEC, like, who's gonna go undefeated and get shafted? And it was Florida State. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And Urban said that in the pregame show of the Michigan game when they were talking scenarios, he goes, but for all you people out there that are saying, well, wait a minute, you put Ohio State in with a number three, they won the big 10 championship game 59 to nothing. Right. If Florida State would have put up a huge offensive number and the quarterback looked great, they would have been in. They're in.


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[Assistant] Here's what I, and I had a conversation with Herb Street about this once, and he disagreed with a lot of it, but at my mission statement at the bottom, he said, yeah, you're right. Here's the way I would pick. And it's tough because we can't.


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[Assistant] If we could, we'd be in Vegas for a living. But what I always try to say is, I don't even really look at the records so much. What I look at is,


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[Assistant] And the reason why, and you, I think, so you had Ohio State who lost one game to a rival on the road, had the most difficult schedule in college football, and had three wins against top 15s. They weren't even in the discussion.


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[Assistant] Look at what Alabama did. I go back to when it, the moment it happened, I said, that is an earthquake that's going to be felt next week in college football. The fourth in 17.


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[Assistant] He stood back there flat footed for eight seconds and he found his guy for the touchdown. Now they made the play. Kudos to them.


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[Assistant] But, in all seriousness, that play, if they run it a hundred times, they probably complete it two or three.


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[Assistant] Alabama's season is over no matter what happens in the SEC Championship game.


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[Assistant] And Georgia, I think the team that got most screwed is Georgia. Georgia was number one all year. And they're watching Alabama.


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[Assistant] He was pedestrian. He's the worst quarterback Ohio State's had in 20 years. And by the way, doesn't that, doesn't that show, uh, maybe I'm reading something that Marvin Harrison's definitely going. Oh, gosh. Oh, he's definitely gone. I thought he was anyway, but.


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[Assistant] Well, they better go get a good quarterback out of that portal. Well, that's the hope. And there's some good ones to be had. Look at Bo Nicks.


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[Assistant] There are guys that got stuck. Look at Texas. You were started at Ohio State. He ended up at Texas. So the whole reason I bring these guys up is you can do that.


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[Assistant] Someone texted me, and I don't know if it was factual or what, because when I asked a follow question, I never got an answer.


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[Assistant] He's gone. I'd be shocked if he stays. It doesn't mean he can't. Doesn't mean he won't. I'll just be shocked if he does. But someone texted me and said he's gonna make more in Columbus. How much did he make this past year? I don't know. That's why I wanted to ask Tyvis. I don't know if that number is even out there. Do they have to report that number, Mikey? But how much could it be?


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[Assistant] Even if he suffers a big injury, he's still gonna be in NFL.


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[Assistant] And we were there and we were talking to him about what he was gonna do.


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[Assistant] And at first it was just me and Orlando.


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[Assistant] And I said, obviously the next question is, are you coming back? And he drops his bombshell and said, I'm coming back. And I was like, what? He said, yea, I'm coming back. And I'm like, foregone conclusion, you were out. Whether you won the Heisman or not. He said, no, yea, I'm gonna tell Coop after the dinner tonight, I'm coming back.


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[Assistant] Now what happened was, he obviously didn't change his mind and rightfully came out in the NFL draft. It was, I don't know if he was the number one overall, but he was early, very early.


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[Assistant] But he created this ripple where everybody was now writing stories. The story in Columbus on the night of the Heisman Trophy ceremony was Orlando Pace is coming back. Because that's what he told us.


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[Assistant] And I don't, so I don't even know if I'm gonna pay much validity to something that Harrison says.


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[Assistant] In his response to a question he said, I haven't yet accomplished what I came to Columbus to do.


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[Assistant] Because a lot of guys at Michigan came back. McCarthy, Corum, other guys on the defense. They rolled the dice. So far it's worked.


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[Assistant] The college football gods are shining on Michigan. They're going to get the one and they're going to get a Florida state team that's without its leader. But the way it worked out, they got hoes. But they're a slight, they are a favorite in the game, a slight favorite. And I think they should be. What's the spread on the other game? I think Alabama is going to beat them.


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[Assistant] Of course. It feels like the, I mean, it feels like these games are all toss-ups. Alabama, Michigan's offense is


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[Assistant] He feels like another Mack Jones and Kenny Pickett. He does to me too. I think they win. They've got a great running back in Quorum. I think they've got an unbelievable defense. They've got a really, really good defense, but I just trust Nick Saban in these situations. The Vegas Lions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean it feels like all these games and any matchup in the championship will probably be a close game. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't know how I feel about it. Although I know nothing about it because I don't watch any of these. What would be your dream matchup in the championship game? Obama, Texas. I think so too.


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[Assistant] Here's another problem I had. Another problem I had and I'd like to get your guys thoughts on this while we have a minute. Maybe we can do this in overtime. I hated


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[Assistant] And I understand why, but I hated that a team that knowingly cheated, knowingly cheated.


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[Assistant] Is the number one seed and there's a 13 and 0 and a power 5 watching.


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[Assistant] Did not have that on my card today, Jay. See you in overtime. What, cropdusted? They were, they were cropdusted. You're not wrong. And if I'm an Eagles fan, I've got a lot of concerns.


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[Assistant] To be, uh, seven and four right now with some, uh, momentum headed into LA this weekend. But to see the Browns doing well, uh, the Cavs are looking up, I think, too. Uh, so I think we got a good future for Cleveland sports.


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[Assistant] Well, the last couple of Browns games, I've been on my couch watching. But I was at opening a day, which we had a really good, good time at the stadium. I was at the opening night for the Cavs and we got beat by the Thunder, unfortunately. But I prefer most close games. I like being at home.


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[Assistant] Absolutely in a job like this, being mayor of a major American city.


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[Assistant] Uhm, during this time in our country and in the world, it's more than you can expect because a lot of the challenges that we see in our country from poverty, uh, to violent crime,


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[Assistant] Leading our transformation right now for me is a dream come true because we have so much potential.


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[Assistant] Uh, to truly be, I think, a globally competitive city long term. And we have all the ingredients to get it done now and to be at the helm leading it during this transformation has been an exciting time.


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[Assistant] Choosing Cleveland now versus staying in New York, Chicago, LA.


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[Assistant] And then a couple days before that we hosted the second ever Future Lane Summit. Baron Davis was one of the keynote speakers for our Future Lane Summit. Rich Paul was one of the keynote speakers.


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[Assistant] Last year, really highlighting Cleveland as a hub for diverse tech and arts and culture talent. And so, uh, there's a lot of things happening that I'm excited about in terms of our transformation. And I think we're making the big bets now to attract and retain that young talent for the future as well too.


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[Assistant] Well, the first big bet with our riverfront and ou


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[Assistant] Dan Gilbert has committed up to four billion dollars of investment to transform the Calgary River. The Cavs are moving the practice facility to the Calgary River. We are now embarking on a brand new master plan for the lakefront with the Browns, the Rock Hall, Great Lakes Science Center, really making that America's North Coast because


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[Assistant] One of the things I get jealous about when I go to Chicago, New York, LA is they've maximized their waterfronts. We haven't done a good enough job of doing that in Cleveland. And I think with the investments we're teeing up right now, we can be one of the truly first two waterfront cities in America.


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[Assistant] Well, I think every mayor since Tom Johnson has had a lakefront plan. None of them have got it as far as you have. No, and we've been moving really, really fast. So the master plan for the lakefront will be done by the first quarter of next year.


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[Assistant] And I envision this as a place where you could live, work, and play. New beaches, new storefronts, new food halls, a boutique hotel, a place where you can play pickup basketball or pick a ball, but a place that reflects the beauty of Cleveland. Because for a long time,


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[Assistant] Especially on the east side, uh, the lakefront was cut off to us, right? Because of that highway, which is a model of redlining and segregation.


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[Assistant] And for a long time in the city, the river and the lakefront was a dividing line, east side, west side, black and white, right? We want to change that and make our waterfronts a place of healing and a place where everybody in Cleveland feels they can see themselves in that asset.


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[Assistant] Well, we are in current negotiations with the Browns and the Haslam, so I can't speak too much about it, but I'm committed to keeping the Browns on the lakefront. I'm committed to creating a deal that is fair to Clevelanders, but also competitive to make sure we can keep the Browns in the core of our city.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, uhm, they really helped jumpstart, uh, our vision for the lakefront with the plans they released in 2021. And so, uh, we got a nice head start with their early plans that they rendered and we picked up those plans and are running a full steam ahead to make sure we can execute this vision.


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[Assistant] It certainly comes into play and my number one responsibility as mayor is to make sure that for the residents of Cleveland that we have a fiscally responsible budget.


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[Assistant] And I want to do everything I can as we negotiate this deal to protect the general revenue fund. But I'm willing to be creative in terms of how we finance the renovation of the stadium, but also how we finance all the enabling infrastructure we have to get done to make our vision for the lakefront and the riverfront a reality.


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[Assistant] Well, when I was nine years old, uhm, my first love was basketball.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my parents were working two jobs, uh, although they were divorced, uh, they did whatever they could do to make sure that we made ends meet and we made a way out of no way. And I would get lost.


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[Assistant] In the books in my library growing up on Han 21st and Doug. And so the power of learning for me helped me find a new reality.


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[Assistant] Uh, despite the fact that I grew up in a hard, impoverished neighborhood.


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[Assistant] And I believe you can make it out of Cleveland and make things happen in Cleveland. You can do anything you want to do.


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[Assistant] And there's so many countl amazing people who have do not only impacted our cit


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[Assistant] From Carl B. Stokes, the first black mayor of a major American city, to now a guy like Rich Paul, who is leading the sports and entertainment business, uh, with Clutch and his sports agency group.


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[Assistant] And so it's so important that we show young people that you are what you see.


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[Assistant] That's why I dedicate a lot of my time talking to young folks.


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[Assistant] Going to schools, going to ball games. I'll be at the Glenville State Football Championship game Saturday night. They beat my alma mater. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. But I'm pulling for them all the way now. Yeah. Making sure we bring another state football championship to our city.


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[Assistant] But we, as leaders now, have to do a better job of showing up for our young people and giving them that hope every single day.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was a big Terrell Brandon fan, right? So I was a guy who had solid dribble game, good court vision, but I love getting my points when I need to get my points. I can score. I had a good baseline J.


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[Assistant] Well, as you know, when I took office last year, we led the effort to work to expunge low-level marijuana misdemeanors on folks' criminal records because a lot of folks in our city couldn't get access to a bank loan to start a business.


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[Assistant] We were losing a whole lot of revenue from folks going up to Michigan buying legalizing, uh, uh, buying legal marijuana. And so it's past time that Ohio and Cleveland gets its fair share.


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[Assistant] That's equity. Uhm, you know, too many people in our country and in our state and in our city.


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[Assistant] Uhm, have gone to prison for far too long because of low level marijuana offenses. And they deserve their fair share because many of their white counterparts are making a whole lot of money on marijuana right now. So this is all about doing right by those folks.


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[Assistant] It's the government's responsibility to provide the infrastructure for safety, to provide good quality education in good schools, to provide opportunity in our neighborhoods, and that's what my administration is working on every single day.


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[Assistant] But when you have hundreds of young people,


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[Assistant] Downtown at night, beyond curfew hours, without a chaperone, that's a problem.


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[Assistant] And we need parents and caregivers to step up. And if you're a parent or caregiver and you know your teenager has a gun,


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[Assistant] You need to have a hard conversation with that.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. I'm for universal background checks. I'm for red flag laws. I'm for common sense gun safety laws. We had a young child in our city get shot in the head earlier this year because a gun was laying on a couch after the parents had a party.


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[Assistant] But because of our legislature in Columbus, I can't pass any common sense gun safety legislation that would have provided any penalties regarding that.


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[Assistant] And 80% of folks in our state want to see background checks, want to see red flag laws, want to see common sense gun safety laws on the books. 80% of Ohioans. And I'm a big believer in the second amendment, but the second amendment should have some limitations.


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[Assistant] Uh, is changing. Sure. Construction costs have risen, supply chain issues, and so that's impacted, uh, the cost, but I'm confident we're gonna find the right deal at the right price point to make sure we can see shovels in the ground over the next couple years to transform our airport.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, hopefully I'm blessed to be re-elected by the voters of Cleveland in 2025.


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[Assistant] And we'll see what happens after that. There is a lot of work that needs to be done in our city. And I inherited problems that we've been trying to tackle for over 75 years. Those won't be solved in one term. They may not be solved in two terms. So more to come soon on that.


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[Assistant] But my plea though, if Travis and Taylor get married, weddings gotta be in the land.


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[Assistant] I really just love that. I think I watched it ten times yesterday.


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[Assistant] I agree, and they really are. Both MGK and Travis really represent the authentic, resilient, amazing nature we have as Clevelanders and it's really great to see them on the global stage.


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[Assistant] We'll love to. I'll wear my Nick Chubb jersey next time too. Wonderful.


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[Assistant] I love it. I love it. I'll come back too. If, if Flacco wins the Super Bowl, I'm his left tackle next year.


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[Assistant] And I thought about that and I'm like, you know what? It is kind of weird because


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[Assistant] We have always had this hatred for the Ravens. Uhm, obviously they used to be in Cleveland. And then when I was playing, the Ravens were so dirty, like with Ed Reed and Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis and Bart Scott, like we hated those dudes. And then Jamal Lewis was our running back my first couple of years in the NFL.


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[Assistant] We just always had this like hated dirty rivalry between the two of us, but they obviously won way more than, uh, than we did when we were playing each other. And so we had this kind of little brother thing going on where they didn't even really respect us.


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[Assistant] So it is weird for me, especially as a former Browns player to look at Joe Flacco and be cheering for him the way I was, especially last weekend. I mean, he played great in the first half and now it looks like he's probably going to be the starter here the rest of the way and going to be kind of holding our fortunes in his hands. It definitely has strange times here in Cleveland right now, but I guess you could always say that.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you learned from your experiences and certainly they didn't expect Deshaun to be injured and I don't think they expected honestly this team to be as talented and as good as they really are. Uh, I think they kind of thought like, hey, if Deshaun gets hurt, like the season's over, we got no chance.


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[Assistant] And it turns out all of a sudden we've got this number one overall defense. We've got this great running game even after Nick Chubb gets hurt. And so.


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[Assistant] I think the calculations kind of changed a little bit where at first they were hoping to be able to develop DTR.


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[Assistant] Knowing now maybe the quality of the roster going into next season if we're able to keep most of this team together, which I think we should. I haven't obviously looked at the contract situations going into next year, but.


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[Assistant] I think that's going to be a bigger part of the calculations, just knowing one, how much Deshaun Watson has been banged up this season. Uhm, and he really wasn't a guy that was hurt a bunch during his career before this point. Uh, he's had the ACL and he's had a couple other injuries, but it's not like he was a guy that was very fragile, even for a quarterback that ran the football a lot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but just knowing the way he was banged up this year and then knowing how good the rest of the team is, even when he's not out there, I think the calculations definitely will change and I think next season, don't be surprised if there is that veteran backup who's maybe a little bit more qualified and experienced to take over in the unfortunate instance if Deshaun does get hurt again.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's time for Denzel Ward to ask for a raise, I think, because I think everybody knew he was a Pro Bowl caliber cornerback. They saw that cornerback, that secondary room, and they realized, okay, we got, uhm, a great corner in Denzel and Newsom. We've got, uhm,


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[Assistant] Marvin, or Martin Emerson Jr. Who's playing really, really good. He's physical. He's a little different type of cornerback. But for your third guy, he's excellent. We got a pair of good safeties.


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[Assistant] But I don't think we realized how important Denzel was at that number one spot. And it makes sense now that you're thinking about it in hindsight, right? Okay. Every team in the NFL pretty much has a great number one, but very few guys.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think you do quickly realize like how much impact the loss of your number one cornerback has on a defense that really the reason why they were so great was one, Miles Garrett and the disruption that he provides up front and two, the coverage that they provide in the secondary. And then when they get into a situation where now you have the lead.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's something that I've thought a lot about throughout my career and it is one thing that we talk about every year and I always kind of reflect back even when I was playing and then the years after I retired right away, everyone's like, oh, there's always more injuries now than ever. And I'm not sure unless somebody really dove into the numbers and the statistics of it.


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[Assistant] If we could really say, uh, yes, definitively we are losing more- For quarterbacks it is.


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[Assistant] You're right, that's, that's exactly, I'm getting there, sorry. Oh, sorry. So, the quarterbacks, you're absolutely right. Um, not sure why that is. The quarter, the quarterbacks, there's only 32 starters, right, in the league. So, that sample size is going to be a lot smaller than the rest of the league as a whole. I think...


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[Assistant] What's playing into this, the majority of it is the fact that now we're playing a much more wide open game of football. And so what that leads you to is a lot more of these significant acute injuries because you've got guys like basically running instead of a highway where you got four lanes going in the same direction. Now you got.


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[Assistant] All these cross traffic, right? Because you're playing spread out. Your, your quarterbacks are athletic. So they're running the football more. You're seeing more zone reads more.


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[Assistant] Uhm, RPOs, you've got a lot more motions where guys are running full speed horizontally. You got a lot more deep crossing routes, a lot of these play action type concepts.


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[Assistant] And so I think you're just seeing a lot more collisions where guys aren't seeing each other and that's causing a lot more of the acute injuries than versus when I played like.


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[Assistant] Especially early on, it was a lot more playing with a tight end and a full back. It was a lot more in the box, smash mouth. You saw the guy, you were going to hit him. There was a lot of big collisions and I think that type of football probably led itself to more long term consequences.


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[Assistant] Those slow overtime 2030 head injuries, head hits every single play or every single game. Uh, and then all, all the like,


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[Assistant] People aren't practicing as much, uh, full contact. They're not playing as much in the preseason. And one thing we used to talk about when we were playing was how you needed to callus your body during training camp, right? You needed to have those hits. And I hated two a days as much as anybody.


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[Assistant] You got a lot of hits in and you got pretty used to learning how to get hit, how to hit guys, how to fall, how to get tackled. Uhm, and I'm not sure that.


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[Assistant] We really know how much that impacted you pos- positively going into the season and how that prepared your body for the beatings that an NFL season would give out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's been as bizarre of a season for the Browns tackle injuries as any that I could remember. Uhm, Dewan Jones has played lights out football. I mean, he's played Pro Bowl caliber football from day one and he's improved.


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[Assistant] Uh, from the moment he had to step in there when Jack Conklin got hurt.


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[Assistant] So, just to think that we were able to replace Jack Conklin when he got hurt and we didn't hardly miss a beat with the wand. And then all of a sudden now Jed has been injured quite a bit. Uhm, and so to get James Hudson in there playing pretty good football. So basically you have two backup tackles and you almost didn't miss a beat with those guys in there. But then those guys are getting hurt too.


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[Assistant] The revolving door is so difficult, especially when you're thinking about a position that relies a lot on communication, um, and being on the same page with your guards, but also those tight ends as they're moving in and out. Now we don't play as much


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[Assistant] Two, three tight end football as we did when Kevin Savansky first got here or even when I played in the NFL when it was a lot more of that 21 personnel like I talked about earlier where it was more smash mouth stuff.


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[Assistant] But you still have a lot of combination blocks, a lot of communication that, that has to happen upfront amongst those guys when you're trying to pick up blitzes.


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[Assistant] I like it personally because one, I think we've realized that Philadelphia is uniquely set up to be able to run that play because a lot of other teams have tried it and their success has not had nearly the amount, uh, or they have not had nearly amount of success as the Philadelphia Eagles have. So I think.


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[Assistant] The fact that the Eagles have this massive offensive line, they've got Jason Kelsey, the Hall of Fame center, who knows how to get low, who create that leverage, but then you also have this huge strong quarterback, Jalen Hurts.


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[Assistant] You know, they love talking about how he squats 600 pounds, which is legit. I can't squat 300 pounds right now and I'm almost probably 30 pounds bigger than him. Uhm, and so you've got this massive group of humanity and I don't think it would be fair for the NFL to outlaw that play just because one team is so, so good at it that it's nearly impossible to stop.


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[Assistant] And I kind of like the way teams are trying to get creative to stop it because just the old school method of just lining a bunch of dudes up in the gaps and diving them on the ground doesn't work anymore. Like back in the day when you didn't have the tush push.


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[Assistant] If you created a pile up front with your defensive line on a quarterback sneak play,


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[Assistant] It pretty much stopped it, right? Because the quarterback would get stuck and then somebody would come off the edge and tackle him.


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[Assistant] But now that those guys are behind the quarterback, they're able to basically lift him up and throw him over the top of all the bodies, which is what has made the tush push so successful. It's made it really difficult on a defense. And so they're trying to find different ways to stop it. And so I kind of like watching the evolution of that play. And I don't think that the NFL.


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[Assistant] Should ban it, unless all of a sudden we see like some enormous rash of injuries, but usually those things are, uh, self-correcting because


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[Assistant] If Jalen Hurts gets hurt running that play, I can bet the Philadelphia Eagles probably won't be thinking about running it that often anymore. And at least if they are going to still run it occasionally, they're probably not going to make it as much of a staple as they have so far.


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[Assistant] Outside of the other teams that have tried it, we really haven't seen a ton of injuries running that play from the Eagles standpoint. So I think it's something that's great for football right now. And I'd be really disappointed if the NFL outlawed it, especially since it seems like the Eagles are the only team that's mastered it.


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[Assistant] Uh, away from the tunnels where we came out and there was a fumble near the goal line around the five yard line.


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[Assistant] And I just happened to be there. I jumped on it, right? And of course on a fumble, especially near the goal line, there's a lot of bodies usually. And so I had like,


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[Assistant] You know, seven dudes jump on me. So at least like 400, 1400 pounds.


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[Assistant] Everybody knows it's gonna work for the most part and as soon as it does, those guys are really quick to give up and get back on defense and start thinking about first down. That's true.


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[Assistant] That's a good question. Uhm, I'd have to go back and kind of look, but I gotta think that we were up near the top, at least, you know, top three. Uhm, I can't remember another offense.


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[Assistant] The big key for us with that offense was, uh, DA was getting the ball out of his hands. You know, he's not a mobile guy. It's not like we were getting him outside of the pocket. He was just kind of standing there like a statue or a scarecrow, but he could sling it. He had a big arm, uh, and he knew where the football should go. And we had some good creative game plans week in and week out. And actually after that,


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[Assistant] Flop in week one against the Steelers when Charlie Fry started.


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[Assistant] The next week, we put up 51 Cincinnati, which I don't know if we've scored over 50 since then. So you're right. I think that was one of the better offenses, maybe the best offense that we've had since 2007.


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[Assistant] Okay, hit, but we're getting closer.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm gonna stay there, cause I think Phil played quite a few snaps.


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[Assistant] And the last couple of guys had a couple of years at least.


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[Assistant] Oh, peppers didn't put you over 10,000. I thought.


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[Assistant] Oh right there, wow. I, I guess I thought your grilled peppers had a lot more snaps for the browns, but I guess I was wrong.


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[Assistant] Hey, I appreciate it guys. And one quick plug on Friday, I'm going to be in Cleveland at the Candy Cane Ball. It's in Ohio City at the Trust building.


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[Assistant] Uh, you can still get some tickets and it goes to gifts towards underprivileged kids in the holiday season. So go check it out. I'll be there. You can come celebrate with me and, uh, dress like the Grinch.


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[Assistant] I can't remember exactly what I said, but if you show it, I said something like, uhm, I was sitting on the, on the couch, like a big fat stuffed turkey, uh, just watching some football, and, uh, and then Dolly happened, and I said, uh, something about, you know, now I'm, I, oh, I hit the treadmill, considering implants, and, uh, reassessing everything about my life.


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[Assistant] Right now at the place where I'm at, I am about an 18 minute walk, about a little, maybe over a mile walk to the practice fields here at UCLA. It's just stunning. I mean, it's, it's really a beautiful setting.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, you know, we'll, we'll see how that goes. They are, you know, they're doing their own, you know, rehab. A lot of them came over here to UCLA today to work out. But other than that, uh, you know, they're kind of off today. So we'll find out a little bit more tomorrow, but I think it's going to be a pretty sparse practice.


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[Assistant] So, you know, you have to be doing something right to have those kind of numbers. And Sean Payton, I thought, did a masterful job.


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[Assistant] That's not my problem. My problem, my job is to catch the football, no matter who's throwing it, no matter how they're throwing it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but no, I, we all intend to, to get out and do some cool things. There are writers on this trip that have never been to LA. So, uh, you know, some of those guys are going to go, you know, see some of the touristy sites and then.


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[Assistant] And I'm Mikey McNuggets and the Browns home field advantage is back and we need to apologize to Browns Nation for having a premature funeral for the dog pound. Sorry guys, you're better than that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they've been phenomenal this season. They've had five home games and in those five games, the Browns have outscored their opponents 100 to 51 and that includes the 28 to three loss to Baltimore week four with DTR. So you take out the one DTR start.


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[Assistant] That is a 97 to 23 cumulative score at home. And crazy enough, as good as that is,


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[Assistant] Coach Tyvis, our resident safety who played safety in the NFL for four seasons to help teach the people out there how McLeod can pick up a thing or two from Juan Thornhill.


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[Assistant] That's the good and great closing speed there by Thornhill. Now let's go to the bad. And last week against Baltimore, McLeod had a chance and it just didn't work out, but hopefully that can be corrected for this week. Davis, walk us through.


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[Assistant] No right of the fence, it's a yes or no, one side or the other, pick or choose, and let's get to the first one today. Well, Miles Garrett or TJ Watt.


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[Assistant] Have more sex on Sunday. The rest of these answers, pretty split down the middle. This one, almost unanimous. Tyvis Powell, the only person on the watt side of the fence. The rest of you guys, we're all on Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] We'll see you on Monday when there's seven and three. We got 10 seconds left. Little breaking news too. Do it. Steelers injury side. Neither Minka Fitzpatrick nor Keanu Neil practiced on Friday.


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[Assistant] But WebMD is as close as we can get, and I confirmed this with Dr. Jesse Morse, who is going to join us on tomorrow's show to give us a long term picture of Deshaun Watson's injury. But according to WebMD, as confirmed by Dr. Jesse Morse,


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[Assistant] A glenoid fracture occurs when there is a shoulder dislocation or shoulder subluxation and the ball comes out of the socket. As the ball dislocates, it can push against the rim of the glenoid socket.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jake Burns threw this out, so shout out to Jake Burns of the Orange and Brown Report, but this is the play that, according to Andrew Berry, matches up with the timeline of what happened. You can see Watson.


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[Assistant] Scrambles and is going to take a hit from Patrick Queen right in the shoulder. Yup. He bounced up.


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[Assistant] Well real quick, we have a little breaking news and we're going to get back to this in a sec, but Jordan Schultz of Bleacher Report, who is pretty credible, just tweeted out the Browns are planning for a DTR quarterback this week versus... That's the right move. That's the right move. I was going to suggest the same thing. PJ Walker would be DTR's backup, which we'll get to all of that coming up here, but just so people know we're not missing anything.


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[Assistant] On Josh Dobbs' podcast last week, he said he felt he was going to be traded back to Cleveland just before the deadline. We're going to bring in Leroy Hoard tonight.


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[Assistant] After the normal show at 4 o'clock today, we were doing behind the glass continuing the conversation about the Sean Watson's injury myself, Anthony Earl in studio live, continuing that conversation about the Sean Watson. But now let's bring in Leroy Hoard, who has experienced things that we have never experienced, played with guys who have gotten knocked out for the season.


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[Assistant] So going back to Tennessee, when this injury first occurred, now it's a different injury than what knocked him out for the season, but this whole shoulder saga with Deshaun, can you guys go back and think of a player


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[Assistant] Injury situation that has had more twists and turns in a two month span than what we've seen with Deshaun Watson this year.


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[Assistant] And an official partner of The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Jason Lloyd joins us now from Berea outside of the Browns facility. He just spoke with Deshaun Watson with Andrew Barry and everyone else in the locker room. And he joins us now for the latest. What's up, Jason?


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[Assistant] Last year, the seventh seed in the AFC. Get out of here, Ed. Uh, seventh seed in the AFC was... The Dolphins. No, they didn't make the Dolphins. The Steelers. Yea, the Steelers.


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[Assistant] If they didn't make the playoffs. Miami, well they, them and Miami were both 9 and 8. And Miami got in at 9 and 8.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, he's still in favor for MVP. Jason, real quick, we gotta let you run. You were next to Deshaun Watson, literally standing next to Deshaun when he was speaking at his availability.


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[Assistant] We didn't get a chance to listen, obviously we were on the air. I only see some of the quotes. I didn't get a chance to actually listen. How did he seem?


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[Assistant] Cause it's obviously another tough setback for a guy who's been through more than really any of us can imagine over the last two and a half years.


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[Assistant] Not practicing today. And once again, it's Wednesday, it's still early in the week, but not practicing. Wyatt Teller was an ankle injury. That doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Juan Thornhill with the calf. He's out. Something for monitoring. He may or may not play. DeJuan Jones not practicing today. And Marquise Goodwin still out with the concussion.


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[Assistant] Let's get to him. Simple says, there's no one way to fix this and it's not PJ Walker, DTR. No way the answer's on the roster. Give me Cam Newton, Nick Foles, Joel Flacco, all proven. It only has to play half a season. Give me Cam for 8 to 10 games. Skilly says,


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[Assistant] What the F is this? Why can't we have nice things? What a time to be a Browns fan.


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[Assistant] You guys dismissing that? Yes, absolutely. John Harris says, Jay loses an argument and continues to dig deep. That's right. Acaf Rocker25 said.


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[Assistant] Michael McGee said bringing Cam Newton, our GM is worthless. John Harris said Tom can't play because he's an owner now. William Slater said maybe DTR can bowl off a Brock Purdy, I sure hope so.


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[Assistant] He said it's time to bring in the Messiah. TB12 to take us to the promised land. Finally retire in historic fashion. Sean Newland said.


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[Assistant] Get Tannahill to demand a release, he'd be the best option.


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[Assistant] Professor Chaos says, Tyvis, I appreciate the positivity. Thank you. Thank you. Professor Chaos also said, look up Peyton Manning's 2015 stats. They were not good. Bagzilla.


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[Assistant] Uh, Don Tavius Winston said, uh, first off, Bagzilla says, Jay, how long are you keeping the Gary Bucci look? I don't, who's Gary Bucci? I don't know. Next one, Don Tavius Winston. Uh, it's No Shade November, so November 30th. No Shade November, yup. Don Tavius Winston, hindsight is 20-20. No one batted an eye when we traded Dobbs, we were fine with it at the time, so it's not fair to trash the Browns for it now. It is DT Aura time.


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[Assistant] Antonio Storapolo says that the team gets 10 wins and the postseason Kevin deserves to be coach of the year. Not many coaches can deal with this level of loss. That's, that's true.


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[Assistant] Ronaldo Archer said Barry found Ford. He found a great kicker. He found the Ohio State right tackle. So I believe DTR will be competent enough for the Browns to play 500 and win 10 games. And last but not least. I love it.


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[Assistant] Mulatto says more often than not, AB has gotten the team through adversity with his draft choices. Let's not sleep on DTR.


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[Assistant] But before DTR went out and I saw this, the faithful dog podcast tweeted it out. I went to confirm myself. I went through the play log to do my own research to make sure this was accurate before DTR got hurt.


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[Assistant] Up to that point, they ran 29 pass plays and 16 rush plays. However, six of those pass attempts came in that final two minute drive of the first half, which are obvious passing situations. Then six came on third and longs, third and seven or longer where you're going to throw the ball. You take out those.


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[Assistant] In non-obvious pass situations, they were almost dead even. 17 passes, 16.


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[Assistant] Take that out, take this out, take that out. But I'm saying non-obvious past situations. I know that's what you're saying. It's a damn near 50-50 split.


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. That is FanDuel.com slash UCSS. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Before we move on from DTR, and I know Jason alluded to, I just want everyone else's thoughts, just so we're all.


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[Assistant] On the same page here, we have this on the record. Jason, you said that drive from DTR gave you enough confidence that he made a tangible progression from his first start or his second start against Pittsburgh, but his third start


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[Assistant] In a row, second. From Pittsburgh to Denver. Enough tangible evidence to think he's the guy if healthy.


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[Assistant] The other three guys in the panel, do you guys agree with that? That if DTR is healthy, he gives the Browns the best chance to win right now.


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[Assistant] According to ESPN, if the season were to end today, Indianapolis would be the seventh season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Houston and Denver and Buffalo all have six wins.


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[Assistant] We'll, we'll talk to Miles Garrett in one sec. No, no, it's fine. I got one more DTR question. Then we can move on to the injuries and we got some, some breakdown and


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[Assistant] What Myles said and how we should interpret that, but with DTR, I got two more things I want to ask about DTR than we can move on, but.


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[Assistant] Through three games, and I'll include Baltimore in this evaluation because we did see him play a full game. What does DTR do best on the football field?


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[Assistant] G, what'd you think of DTR? Before we get to Miles. G, what'd you think?


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[Assistant] Well, you guys touched on it. Can I just give you one thing I noticed from DTR that I thought was really impressive?


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[Assistant] It's not even the patience, but last week we did the stats. He was getting the ball out unbelievably quick. Stefanski designed a one read system for the most part. It was plant your foot on three step, drop you fire. Stefanski let him go through his progressions this week.


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[Assistant] And we have seen Stefanski with all the different quarterback change in the last four years.


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[Assistant] He doesn't always give his quarterbacks that leash and we saw even last week against Pittsburgh, DTR didn't have that leash.


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[Assistant] We can say whatever he wants to fancy. Yesterday was not his best performance, crucifying, whatever you want to do. The fact that he trusted DTR to understand some of these offensive philosophies and how to actually progress from first read to second read. I mean, DTR is picking this stuff up a lot quicker than I think I would have expected for a guy making his first career road start in a tough environment to play.


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[Assistant] Against the defense that since the Miami game has been way better.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow, the Barbershop G. Bush is back. If you don't get enough G. Bush on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show from 1101, Monday through Friday, you can beat G. Bush. G., you're doing it tomorrow, I hear, this week, according to the schedule. Is that correct?


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[Assistant] That's what the schedule says, so that's what I'm going off. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. That's breaking news here on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. But G. Bush, at least twice a week, is shopping on the Barber Shop. Make sure you guys check him out at the Barber Shop on the UCSS YouTube channel. Do you guys want to listen to Miles Garrett first? He said he felt a pop in his shoulder. If you could pull up the Miles Garrett sound here. And this is him after the game describing


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[Assistant] What he heard, what he felt, and how he's feeling in the moment. Anthony, you can take a tab or phone whenever you're ready.


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[Assistant] Also the barbershop is today. Steve Becker put it wrong on the schedule, he just texted me, so the barbershop is today. Now back to Myles Garrett, who said he felt a pop in his shoulder.


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[Assistant] Uh, he said he's not gonna come out unless his shoulder's falling off. That is the same shoulder I believe he hurt in a car crash last season. Which makes at least an extra little cause of concern. We'll hear from Kevin Stefanski today at 4 o'clock. The press conference is usually at 1 o'clock, but because they're in LA, an hour time, it's 4 o'clock.


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[Assistant] So Maaz Garrett hurt his left shoulder, right? And he usually lines up over the left tackle, so when he swims, the injured shoulder is the inside shoulder.


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[Assistant] If he was to play more over the right tackle, his dip shoulder would be his right shoulder. Does that make any difference? Or is it still a risk range?


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[Assistant] Speaking of Amari Cooper and Jason, I know you touched on the bad pass that got him lit up, but if he's not a part of this offense, DTR Joe Flacco, whoever, you're just running out of valuable options. And thank goodness, Cedric Tillman showed a sign of life and he played his best game.


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[Assistant] I'll watch that back in. G, what is the, what's the tilting point for a defense when you know your offense may be unable to score as many points as necessary and you have to bring your A game? Is just being in playoff contention enough to keep the defense motivated to essentially try and bring an A plus game every week knowing the offense may not be able to score 14 points?


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[Assistant] Player props, over-unders, and much, much more. So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. I will look up the Anthony Schwartz thing in one second, Bull, but I mentioned this on the post-game show. And Jason Bull, JG, you commented it yesterday, but...


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[Assistant] It seems that DTR and Amari Cooper are still figuring out that chemistry. There seems to be a step slow or a step off and...


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[Assistant] Cooper's receptions to Targets are not equating. And same with Njoku, but obviously he has phenomenal connection and chemistry with Cedric Tillman because they played in high school together and that's in lockstep and we saw that yesterday.


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[Assistant] Is that just practice reps, Jason? Is that part of the reason you feel those practice reps from DTR are so important? Even if it's just Thursday, Friday this week, as opposed to a full week, but is that the kind of tangible stuff you think improves with those practice reps?


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[Assistant] And then Watson two, DTR two, and it could be Flacco this week. So we may be stuck at that three, which means since week three, the Browns haven't had the same quarterback start three games in a row.


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[Assistant] I'll double check, when I looked this morning, it was wavering non-stop, and I think it has to do with the uncertainty of quarterback. They have no idea who's going to be there.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeah, if you have a winning fan, they'll take it like Daniel Crusoe. Make sure you send it to us and we'll feature it on the show. The Ravens remaining schedule.


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[Assistant] They have a bye this week, Jay. Right. Then they're home against the Rams at Jacksonville. Ooh.


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[Assistant] He did something to Betonio last week that was pretty... Yea, I did see that. He's a dirty...


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[Assistant] I gotta get in here, this was a, this best Ohio State conversation for a long time and I appreciate you guys for coming with different perspectives.


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[Assistant] DBdog21 says G made a great point on Twitter about Stefanski auditioning DTR to see what he has because he needed to know


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[Assistant] What he has in a quarterback going down the stretch. James Cosby said, I was surprised to see the donkeys be so much more physical than the Browns. They sent half our team to the hospital. Where'd our toughness go? I was surprised by that as well. Kevin Robinson said we are cursed with injuries, but at least Tillman looked good.


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[Assistant] Josh Z says, Pete Carroll did not hand the ball to Marshawn Lynch in the Super Bowl. Coaches make terrible play calls. Even in the biggest spots, the injuries were more than our head coach. Esco says, I'll take DTR over three former first round picks. Mack Jones, Kenny Pickett and Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] DP Dogg says Tyva said they will be locked in because of the loss. Kenneth Yabow says not counting yesterday, the Browns have 26 drop passes this season. That's second most in the league behind the Chiefs. How do you fix it? They're probably number one after yesterday.


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[Assistant] Uh, Evan419 says, give me some realistic coaching options if you fire Ryan Dave, Rable, who else? Anybody you want, anybody you want.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, I'll go back to this. I go back to when Cooper Cup first showed up a million years ago, right? And Sean McVeigh said from almost the first day of camp, like, no, no, this guy's different. You don't understand. This is not an Eastern Washington third round pick that we're going to develop into an NFL player. He's ready to go right now. And everybody's kind of like, yeah, sure, great. Sure, sure he is. He was right.


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[Assistant] He doesn't say it very often. He did say it about Nakula. He did say it about Kyren Williams. So when Sean McVay says no,


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[Assistant] This guy has a little something special that there's usually one thing in these guys' profile that doesn't add up to a first or a second round grade. In Pukka's case, it's not that high in speed.


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[Assistant] Where guys that maybe aren't super high end guys play like super high end guys. So I don't know if there's one player in particular. The Rams defense is kind of a no name defense outside of the one big name and Aaron Donald.


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[Assistant] Uh, they've been a lot better the last two weeks, but those are division matchups that always kind of get a little bit tighter. They beat the Arizona Cardinals like a drum every time they play them. So I'm optimistic about where the Rams are, but I'm going to need to see it against somebody that's not an NFC West team. That's not the Cardinals who they always kill, not the Eagles who they match up pretty well against.


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[Assistant] That doesn't come through a whole lot. You know, when it's the Seahawks or somebody that's in the division that comes through, it's kind of, it's kind of found its own level. But when it's somebody from outside the market, especially a big city like Cleveland, like you mentioned that has a lot of fans.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be surprised if that's low because when we've seen teams like the Bills, like the Steelers, like these teams that don't come in a lot, uh, it's, it's lopsided. The Cowboys come in regularly and they still fill it up about 60, 70%. So I expect the same from the Browns fans. Wow.


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[Assistant] Out of thought you're nuts. And here's where it is. They have a chance to go to the playoffs if they take care of business against the teams they want to do. Statistically, it's not great, but the eye test, the only time they're in games is when he's, when he's cranking.


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[Assistant] When he's good, they win. When he's good, they're in it. If he has one of his, his games where, you know, maybe throws a couple of interceptions or usually it's more function of an offensive line that can't give him any time or Kyron Williams being out and they don't have any sort of running game to speak of. But when he's good and he has just this much time,


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[Assistant] He's still, I think, as good as just about anybody that's not a Mahomes or a Jackson or an Allen or something like that. I think he's at the top of that next tier of quarterbacks. When he's good, the Rams always have a chance. The numbers won't show it to you, but the eye test will.


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[Assistant] He's still a young guy. He loves coaching football. Uh, I think that this was supposed to be the second year in a kind of, let's get this thing together. And I think that kind of juiced it a little bit. I think they're going to be good again next year. I don't think any of those guys are going to leave anytime soon.


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[Assistant] That cycle of, you know, the guys on the other side of the ball get paid to those defensive coordinators they get paid to and they'll, they'll sit in that room with their little laser and figure out what's going on at some point and okay, if we do this and put this guy here and I think we're just kind of coming back through it again. I think that.


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[Assistant] When the next guy or the next idea comes through, it'll start to change back the other way, but right now it's more of make a play here or there. Don't turn the ball over the days of, you know, 40 points a game that that season with the Rams, they only scored fewer than 30 points twice that year.


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[Assistant] Aaron Donald has two 330 pound guys trying to prevent him where he wants to go and they fail every time. Every single.


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[Assistant] Oftentimes he's dealing with triple teams and he still frequently makes plays. Uh, I, I think you're right. I think you guys getting to see Miles Garrett gives you an idea of what an unstoppable defensive force looks like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's that's fair. I'll go a step further. I think if you're just talking about the best defensive players of all time, I think he's on the short list. You know, you're talking Reggie White, you're talking Lawrence Taylor, maybe Ronnie Lott.


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[Assistant] But I think Aaron Donald fits on that list. I don't think that he's out of place with those guys.


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[Assistant] at all, um, and, and he's still doing it. You know, this is, this is a guy that's been here for a while and it's still a guy that every time the offense breaks the huddle, they're looking for number 99. Where is he? How are we going to try to slow him down?


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[Assistant] Most of the time they still can't do it. He's, he's once in a generation. He's been the best player on this team from the moment they showed up in LA. He probably still is, uh, and probably still will be for a couple more seasons.


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[Assistant] Keep doing it. Get the ball to Puka when you need to do it. Get the ball to Cup. Cup has not been particularly good for them over the last five weeks. He is high catch mark over the last five weeks. It's just four receptions. He's been very, very average so far this year. He had a couple of good games when he came back after missing the first four. He really hasn't been very good beyond that.


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[Assistant] It's been girly like and the best version of that Rams offense is when they can run it and they can throw it to the running back out of the backfield and Williams is that guy. So I expect to see a ton of him on Sunday.


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[Assistant] And this is one that they have to have. I think they know that. I think they come out with everything they got and I think they win a low scoring close game.


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[Assistant] In the building, I got the stunner shades on, I got jewelry on, Kool-Aid Mafia's in the building, I lost my voice a little bit, I had to tell them to go get me a dog on Red Bull, but we ready to celebrate right here man, this is all this is about.


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[Assistant] Gee Bush. Man, listen, listen, this game, uhm, I feel, I'm happy for Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if you've been in a person who's ever been to a new school,


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[Assistant] You're a military kid, you move a lot, uhm, maybe you're a new place or a new place in the world and you got a new job.


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[Assistant] You don't understand how hard it is to just fit in. You don't have any friends. You're trying to find a new social circle. You're doing all these different things to get people to kind of like indoctrinate yourself into just normalcy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then, you know, right when he felt like he was hitting his stride, he played against Tennessee, he hurt his shoulder, and we had a lot of people taking shots at him in the national media. Some people individually, uh, in the fan base were taking shots at him saying that he wasn't injured, he wasn't injured, he just wanted a 230.


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[Assistant] And for him to be able to get a signature win like this, when they needed it the most, and to come back from that first half to the second half, and be just perfect throwing the football.


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[Assistant] And it wasn't just perfect throwing the football. It was having to pick yourself back up, not worried about his ankle, not worried about the shoulder and being able to get it done against Baltimore or in that type of spot.


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[Assistant] That was huge for him and I'm just happy for him and his family because they get something to celebrate and there's a lot of people that are now looking at Deshaun Watson like okay.


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[Assistant] That's what the two, I see, I see, I see what the other people saw. We didn't get a chance to see what the Texans or maybe even Clemson fans saw. Guess what? Cleveland Browns fans got an opportunity to see that and I'm happy for them and the fans.


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[Assistant] I'll give Kevin Stefanski a lot of credit. I'ma give him a lot of credit because...


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[Assistant] His team could have quit on him a lot of times during this game.


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[Assistant] The first interception at the first one or two plays, they get an interception. There's times where the team could have folded up and David Njoku was on here talking, uh, you know, last week and he said, look, you guys might not see it.


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[Assistant] But we feel like we got something special in this locker room. We feel like we got something special.


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[Assistant] Our coach may not have the best, but after pre-game or post-game speeches, we need to get you some stuff written down. But other than that, I thought he did a great job of managing the clock at the end of the game. He left him no time. He managed that beautifully. And whether you want to say it or not,


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[Assistant] He was down on one knee on the left sideline. I don't know what exactly was, uhm, that got him hurt.


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[Assistant] That's, that's done. You know, there's a lot of people, and I know sometimes, you know, there's a group of Cleveland Browns fans out there.


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[Assistant] That, that wanted this to be true. They wanted the narrative to be, oh, he's not gonna play. Look at him, he's not hurt just under $230 million. Y'all can just shut up now. Y'all can just be cool. Like, you have to find something else, another hill to die on because...


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[Assistant] The dude showed what it was about. The dude showed, it came back out. Y'all was hoping, and I'm sad to say this, you was hoping he did not come out, he didn't come out for the second half.


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[Assistant] You was hoping, oh look, it's PJ Walker again. He left his guys out there. What about Joe Botonio? He came back from knee surgery. There's guys out here playing injured. Where's your quarterback? Well guess what? Not only did he do that,


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[Assistant] He not only did he do that, he came back and played well. And like Bull says, hey, if you gonna play...


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[Assistant] You're playing. We can't give you excuses for that. Not only did he come back and play, he played, lights out, he got it done. So the narrative about him just cashing checks


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[Assistant] It's out of the window. Like, y'all can find something else in your little chat rooms to talk about. Y'all can, you know, you know, you, you know, we've already got rid of the massage jokes. Now we're going to get rid of this injury thing. And the crazy thing about it, Bull, is this. Just, this is the scary thing for everybody else. What if he starts putting it together?


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[Assistant] What if the practices start hitting? What if he's like, oh, I'm really comfortable now? Now you're peeking going into the last part of the season when everybody else is having attrition in their roster because they've been playing the whole season. He still has a lot of progression and a lot of work to go.


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[Assistant] She said, you were screaming. I thought somebody died. I said, no, no, she was visibly shaken. I was like, no, look at this. I realized and look at this office of lying, pushing everybody. I was like, when, when Hudson threw his fist like that, I grabbed the water bottle. I threw it somewhere. I almost broke something. I was just fired up, bro. I couldn't, we didn't see him. Look at that. Look at him push these dudes.


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[Assistant] That is humiliating. And that game, think about it. And that's the Ravens! It's 31-17 at that point. Ravens thought the game was over at hand.


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[Assistant] You, you, you lean on the fact that, and I always go back to Lebron how he talks about it.


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[Assistant] It's nauseating to other people who haven't been there, but when he talks about his experiences in, I've been here before, I understand, this is playoff mode.


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[Assistant] Guys, you know, on the road, I like to get my guys involved a little bit more, you know what I'm saying? Excuse me, on the road, I gotta keep it going, but at home, I like to get my guys moving a little bit easier because they're gonna score a little bit easier at home. And for Deshaun Watson,


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[Assistant] You know, he hadn't put together a body of work where he could go back and remember that he was that guy. It had been so long. And so when you get a victory like this and playing against another quarterback on the other end of the field, Lamar Jackson, people are saying it's playing like an MVP.


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[Assistant] These guys are gonna, he's gonna remember this. And the scary thing about it is, it's just like Steph Curry, man.


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[Assistant] And right now for a lot of people, I believe that this is, this is going to open the floodgates for Deshaun Watson because I think he's going to start playing with more confidence the more he sees it. And next week, I think he's going to play lights out when it comes to even his first half. I think this, this whole game against the Steelers, he understands the climate and he's going to play lights out.


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[Assistant] And when you juxtapose the two, Deshaun Watson made all the plays, you go back on the other sideline.


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[Assistant] We saw, we saw the resurgence of Ro Greater Wyatt Teller in this game. Ro Greater Wyatt Teller was back on the offensive line. Good job considering.


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, at the end of the half, we was going, I was going crazy. I'm like, bro, what are we doing here? Uhm, that, that being aside, like,


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[Assistant] When you, when you look at what he was able to do in that second half, I thought he did, he stood with in key situations to run game.


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[Assistant] And I thought Jerome Ford, we, we, yeaah, gave up on him a little bit.


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[Assistant] He was tape-toeing and dancing the last couple of weeks. He was hitting it up in the middle and he did a good job. Six yards per carry. He did a great job at moving the pile. He did a great job at getting north and south. I thought he did a great job. 31-17 is where I give Kevin, Kevin some fancy credit.


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[Assistant] How many people, to give a context, I think that was right after...


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[Assistant] In my mind, Stefanski could have went full-blown, 5-wide Stefanski. Like, yeaah, we're gonna throw this football, we're gonna throw it all around the park, we need to get these points. And I'm imagining to myself, he's in his press conference saying,


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[Assistant] I was chasing points there. You know, we're down 31-17. We gotta cut and throw the football. But no.


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[Assistant] To my surprise, he stayed with mixing it up. And for once, I actually think that Kevin Stefanski is actually seeing himself grow and say, you know what?


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[Assistant] Maybe we need to throw it around the park on 44YT.


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[Assistant] You know what, maybe, maybe what we do is, what best is mix it up.


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[Assistant] And, and, and Jerome Ford is having a good day. Let's see if we can go to Joku. Let's see if we can dump it down. And by the way, he did another great job at the beginning of the year. We talk about those check down routes, right? The check, the check and go routes where, where David and Joku is chipping and then getting in their flats.


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[Assistant] They're not taking those yards, and then Joku's getting those yards, and he's giving you yard drives for catch. So I thought he did a good job of staying to who he was, and even when he could have got pass happy, he stayed, stayed true to the run game, he threw those in, he worked in the pass, and, and I just think he had a, he, he, he,


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[Assistant] If Deshaun Watson had a great second half, you also have to say that Kevin Stefanski had a great second half because he did a good job of calling the plays, going to things, dialing up some things.


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[Assistant] I like the fact, he says really quickly before you go, I just love the fact that we, we had expected Joe Botoni on BLF tackle, right?


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[Assistant] To have the faith enough to say, no, let's go with this guy.


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[Assistant] By the way, Nick Harris, when your contract is up, holler at your boy G. Bush. You know, because I'm going to tell you how this works here.


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[Assistant] See now, you're doing you a favor, because now when you go to the table, you're going to say, how many snaps did I have at Fullback and Tidy? That's right, I'm a fullback too. I'm a fullback right now, and guess what, because they could have put Nick Harris at Gardner's with Supertonio, but he's doing such a great job at Fullback,


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[Assistant] And when you were, and when you were, when you used to play. Yeah. Like you, you be in the moment, like, like, from.


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[Assistant] We're supposed to be running X, Y, and Z. We ran that in practice all week, coach. And like when you're a player and your coaches are going back and forth, that's why you get people getting in arguments and be testy on the sidelines because everybody is invested in winning and everybody thinks that they know what's best for winning.


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[Assistant] But because of what was at stake, I think it's this one. I think, I think when you, when you, why this is so important is you get this game.


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[Assistant] In the beginning of a two game, you know, I guess battle in the AFC North. And now you got Pittsburgh, right? I'd argue.


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[Assistant] That this might be a bigger Pittsburgh game. I don't want to say the playoff win.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say that because. Well, you had still to beat Pittsburgh that last week of the regular season to get to the playoffs. But this, this here is monumental because of the simple fact that before it was COVID, we weren't in the stands. It was weird. It was strange and I'm not taking anything away from them.


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[Assistant] But, the hype around this game this week...


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[Assistant] Who's the guy? Listen, they just pulled him out of their back pocket.


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[Assistant] Like, who's this Ford guy? Like, did, like, he got a pick? Like-


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[Assistant] Back to back sex for Miles Garrett. I was on the internet going crazy. I said, listen, Miles, is it too much to ask? I know you got one. Can you get me another one? Back to back sex. And another week. Come on now. Jordan Elliott with the block punt. Block field goal?