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[Assistant] Then it was Baker's fault. Get out of here. Then I said, listen, Stefanski, you up next, you got six games. And guess what? He passed his test. Now, if they get rid of coordinators,


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[Assistant] It's on you, bro. It's on Deshaun, all of it. You gotta carry the whole organization. Hey, you gotta say all the right stuff. You better throw these touchdown passes. You got your coordinator. You got what, you picked the uniforms out. It's your third year. You had the injuries, right?


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[Assistant] This is it. Not just for him and the Browns. This is a career-defining movie.


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[Assistant] And when we compare this offense to other offenses, we feel that this offense cannot win a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I'm playing devil's advocate. To me, I keep going back to the move. I don't understand it. To me, it's like...


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[Assistant] And this is me. I came on the record and raised my hand and said, listen, Jason.


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[Assistant] So now we get to this point and it's just like, man, they look like they went into these, these postseason meetings and everybody got eviscerated. You're like. Meanwhile, we don't know where Deep Podesta is on any of this.


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[Assistant] What's up, man? Tim, you know who? Hey, hey, we gonna start this right off. Have you ever seen such? I thought that Kevin Stefanski was doing a good job here, here, lo and behold.


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[Assistant] I feel like that's the way that the team is, that's their M.O. If you talk to Leroy, he thinks that you talk to Joe Thomas, same thing. So why is there this whole thing where they're trying to figure out how to build it around Deshaun Watson then? If you, if you know it's Chubb,


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[Assistant] Wouldn't you say, okay, well, let me build out the things so we can have the offensive line do our thing with Chubb, but it just seems to be that they're trying to transition, but they're, they're not being successful in transitioning from a running team to a predominantly pass team.


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[Assistant] Like, I would have gave him a shot. I don't know why, at the end of the year, it was like, yo, you got David Bell. I'm stunned by that. The cast of the get-a-long game, I thought at least throw him out there a little bit, see where he goes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the kicker was. In Driscoll, right. So those were kind of important spots. So you had to have those. You had to have those. My god. I feel like when that happened, I think he took it as a signal like, hey, it's not in the car. That's probably why he left. It's not in the car. And you know, they do like their receiver room.


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[Assistant] You're gonna die with it, so I hope you love it. Shout out to Watkins, man, you know. He's one of the ones, I gotta take that on my scorecard, you know. I'm still waiting for the Imani bass to pay off.


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[Assistant] If he gets some catches over there, I'm going to be doing victory laps. If he starts for the Eagles, shhh. I'm like, man, I need to be a scout.


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[Assistant] Was it, is that Texans loss more disappointing than a Knicks loss? Yes. Oh yeah. Really? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you, but- If he, if he put up the points against Baltimore, Jimmy Hasson would go start firing more people.


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[Assistant] On top of the quarterback. So they looking at it like, oh, we got the better of that and the three first round picks.


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[Assistant] That hurts your soul a little bit. You like, even though it's not a direct comparison.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people that always say this. You never apologize. You double down.


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[Assistant] Now we all know- Well, they've doubled down. That's what they're doing. I think they're tri- they done tripled down.


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[Assistant] This is, everything is on this year. That's it.


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[Assistant] People used to think Power 5 teams only had good players.


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[Assistant] Now, Power 5 teams is like, oh, let me go get that left guard from Kent State and start him.


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[Assistant] Like, there's good players everywhere. Like, you know, development at certain ages, maybe you don't even have, everybody don't even have gyms, weight rooms, or even a weight program. So a lot of these kids got raw talent, they get them in a program, and then they find out, oh, this guy's a late bloomer. And now these late bloomers, instead of staying where you are,


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[Assistant] They're like, I was telling Tim, hey, you go to Holy Cross and you're gonna have to watch out. Two years, Florida State would be like, hey, we got a spot for you right here.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs never had to throw helmets. Well, I don't know. We've seen Patrick Mahomes doing some of that.


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[Assistant] When you get really, really, really, really famous, like, okay, like,


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[Assistant] I don't think there was anything wrong with Tim Tebow. He was just extra good. He was extra churchy, right?


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[Assistant] Those damn Packers, I don't know what Scott did to Jordan Love. He done threw like 20 touchdowns in one pick.


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[Assistant] I'mma go on, I'mma go, I'mma say, give me the upset. I'mma say Green Bay. Really?


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[Assistant] Wow. Cat Williams, one interview. And look at what that's spurned. The number one podcast in America right now because of Cat Williams.


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[Assistant] Get into the second tier, and if you get a matchup where look, A, Embiid has been out.


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[Assistant] They got Maxie, he's been playing out of his mind. But you look at the teams, like, the teams that we thought was going to be there are there. You know, Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] They're below the Cavs right now. The Raptors are. The Magic who started off good were. Uhm, there's a lot of teams. The Hawks are trash. It's basically three teams. And the Bucs don't really play no defense.


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[Assistant] So, their defense has gone down. That trade for Damian Liller really hurt them defensively. You got Boston in the mix, obviously they the top of the food chain. But look, Miami just showed you with a hot run.


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[Assistant] Oh, then how are the calves a contender? Why not?


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[Assistant] Right, the Bulls, the Pistons. I mean, you know. The 1980's, 76's.


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[Assistant] There you go. And then Dr. J? He was past his prime, he was outta here.


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[Assistant] Hold on, hold on, let's go back. The year that the Warriors won a couple years ago, I don't know if Steph's a top 10 player at that point. Oh, come on.


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[Assistant] Playing, and you say, you gotta hit a certain amount of games.


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[Assistant] Well, they've done that. But I make it punitive. Like, you can miss-


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[Assistant] Please let the official record know that Tyvis is missing this one. Oh, believe us. Okay. It'll remind us.


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[Assistant] I was 7 years old the last time the Browns played a playoff game in front of real fans. I don't know if I've ever been more excited for a game in my life. And we are just 27 hours away from kickoff, guys. 27! That's it. Let's go. I got 28.


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[Assistant] Let's get into the first one. I asked this initially and you guys were unanimous. So I changed it up and we got a dead split fence, which is exactly what we like to do here on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. So the question, the first one is, will Joe Flacco throw for 65 or more yards than CJ Shroud?


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[Assistant] On Saturday, a dead even split. G. Tyvis Erlenbowl said yes. Myself, Jay and Jason said no. Not exactly a dead. How's that dead even?


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[Assistant] J, your thinking was exactly my line of thinking as well. Number two, will any Texan receiver, tight end running back receiver, have more than 75 yards versus Brown's secondary? G and me said no, everyone else said yes.


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[Assistant] Alright, last one. Will a Browns player not named Miles Garret. So everyone else on the defensive line are linebackers not named Miles. Combined to record at least one and a half sacks against the Texans. Another 4-3 split. G.J. Bull, myself, said yes. Jason, Earl, and Ty all said no. Jay, you're wrong on this one.


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[Assistant] I'm Mikey McNuggets and last night in downtown Cleveland was epic and I can't wait to see what happens when none of the Browns beat the Bengals next week but win two or three games in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] When you look at the offensive stature last night too, this was the Jets defense that came into the game with the number two ranked pass defense in the entire NFL, only behind Cleveland.


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[Assistant] The Browns averaged seven and a half yards per play, they ran for four and a half yards per carry, almost double what they'd done the last four weeks, and averaged 17 yards per completion. It almost defies logic.


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[Assistant] That this offense without Amari Cooper with Joe Flacco as we said time and time again is almost inexplainable what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, PFF isn't the Bible here, but Miles Garrett is on pace to set the defensive end slash edge record in PFF.


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[Assistant] In overall grade with a 94 in the season right now, in a pass rush win grade at a 95, a pass rush win rate at 28.1, and a true pass rush win rate which takes out run plays and focuses just on pass plays at 37%. Those would break PFS single season records. And Mazda has done it all this season.


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[Assistant] And for my game ball, how about the city of Cleveland and the fans of this franchise who have had to sit through decades of non-winning football to cherish the moment last night. The atmosphere in the city was unbelievable and the fans, the people of this city deserve the game ball just as much as any of the players do Cleveland.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm glad to see him, uh, back in the fold. Uh, that's what we were hoping to get. You know, if you get to a situation where you can rest your guys. Uhm, so you got Obo Akuranko is back, it looks like. You can possibly get Grant Delphi back.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, uh, Laja Moore got back and you're looking to possibly see if Juan Thornhill, uhm, can, uh, you know, shake the calf injury and him come back and it would be the first time we've seen in a while.


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[Assistant] Pretty close to, to the starting, you know, defense being back in tack. Obviously Anthony Walker going in IR, IR, but. And Hurst. I mean, those are the only two guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think Hickman might be the first guy off the, uh, first guy off the bench. Uh, but here's another thing too.


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[Assistant] You know, you look at Hickman and you look at, uh, D'Anthony Bell, those are two of your special teams guys, right? So now those guys can really concentrate if they're not going to play. They could be, they could be all out on special teams and you're not going to worry about those guys getting gassed or whatever, but they'll rotate in. They'll get, they'll get some, um, you know,


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[Assistant] Get some snaps because at the end of the day, you got a groin injury and a calf injury.


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[Assistant] You're not gonna be playing every snap on a groin and a calf. Especially your first game back. They'll rotate in and uh, they'll pick their spots. And I would expect that they would use delpit more on run downs as well. Because you want them to be up in the box as quicker for him to attack than backpedal and have to cover people.


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[Assistant] He's going to Houston Saturday. He's going to. You got your tickets already? After the first Browns touchdown, you're going to see a


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[Assistant] If we watched every single kick from him for the Lions, we just went on YouTube and it was like, here's his kicks. And you watch his kicks, you'd be like, oh, okay, I saw you make them.


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[Assistant] This is like playing blackjack at the casino. Listen, you just gotta hope for that if you play the optimum strategy.


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[Assistant] That they'll hit a certain amount of field goals. For me, it may change your strategy.


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[Assistant] It's one of those things where if you're a coach, you go to your offense, and this is the good thing about having veterans, right? You go, you go to Flacco and say, alright listen, we got a kicker we don't know much about. Here's what we want to do.


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[Assistant] In certain downs and distance, we're going to be more aggressive. There's going to be times where I'm going to call a third down play and that third down play is going to be put in so that we can get a certain amount of yards, maybe four or five yards so we can go for it on fourth down. And the kicker is going to be auditioning in real time in the game.


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[Assistant] I'm for the way my playoff mindset works. I'm for more aggressive.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, you know, when you're playing against these teams, everybody has a quarterback. Right. All of them. So if you're up 14 points, you're up 10 points, that ain't no big, that ain't no big league. You gotta be aggressive. You have to be, you gotta finish games.


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[Assistant] In this game. Got to. Gotta be aggressive. And you know, like, this is a game where I much prefer guys get out to a quick start and put teams behind 8 ball. 17-20 points. Because then it changes the way they think about the game too. So, I'm all for it.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes, uhm, I think that the Browns had an opportunity. You wait, you look at everything, the way everything fell. Take a look at a lot of injuries around the league. They got into the playoffs, they're a fifth seed.


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[Assistant] And they date Joe Flacco, who's a guy who has some experience.


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[Assistant] He has an arm, he's hot right now. You look at it having the best defense in the league. You got a pass rusher, you got the best corners that I think are moving out there right now. So your defense is built to stop people. And on top of that, you look at the way you got to your draw.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Browns have beaten most, multiple teams that are, uh, top teams in the NFL right now. And you look at around the league, Patrick Mahomes has not been playing like Patrick Mahomes. Uhm, you know, Josh Allen's in the Bills, they kind of backed their way into a two seed.


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[Assistant] But they, I haven't, they're not really, they haven't really been playing like a normal two seed and dominating people and getting there. They've been really hot lately.


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[Assistant] But I don't think they, they, I would say not back the way in. They haven't been consistent all year. It wasn't a typical Bill's season. It wasn't a consistent season where they've had.


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[Assistant] Relatively good play on both sides of the football throughout. Uhm, you look at the Miami Dolphins, they've been hit with injuries. Uhm, even the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're kind of like, okay, that's not a typical Steelers team. I look at it from the roster makeup and the standpoint that this year is the best year to catch people slipping. Right now, if I look at an AFC,


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[Assistant] There's no dominant team. Um, and the team that is the best team, Ravens, you've beat before, and it's in a division from your opponent. So I think this year, by far, is one of the best years that the ball is bounced in the way it fell, that they get an opportunity.


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[Assistant] I look at it at the same point, not just on their roster. Look at the breaks they got. So, you know, just in the division, Joe Burrow didn't play the whole year. So that's a team that's a contender that just got wiped out. Aaron Rodgers didn't play the whole year.


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[Assistant] We assume Aaron Rodgers can still play football. Jets, whole season finished. So there's a lot of teams, you know, Justin Herbert had a horrible coach. You know he's going to still throw for 4,000. So next year, that team may be better than they are. So I think there's a lot of things that go into it. Pittsburgh don't have a quarterback.


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[Assistant] So, you know, those teams can get, can figure it out kind of quickly. And next year, the Bengals will be the Bengals and it'll be, and by the way, they won nine, eight, nine games this year. So, you're in the toughest division. You got a whole bunch of people coming back next year that you still have questions.


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[Assistant] But, but for all those that say, you know, we talk about chemistry. Yeah. If we're gonna tout Spansky, don't you have to trust him?


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[Assistant] Like, don't you have to think that, okay, he's shown you this year, I could do things with a lot of quarterbacks. Oh no, there's complete trust. Like, so for me, I don't expect him to come back next year and fall all the way off. I expect him to still play at a high level because he's shown you consistently, it doesn't really matter what quarterback it is.


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[Assistant] I could get it done and there's a lot of coaches who get that cash. We talk about Mike Tomlin all the time. We talk about hardball, how they just consistently, even though they have the best years, they don't have a quarterback, they don't have a lot of things, they still manage a way to get it done.


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[Assistant] If you're Jim Schwartz, do you want to be a defensive, defensive minded coach in New York, uh, without a quarterback? Ask Robert, uh, ask Salo about that.


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[Assistant] It was fun to watch. Leroy, when I saw it, I think this gonna change.


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[Assistant] Man, everybody be talking about these quarterbacks and throwing a ball everywhere. Listen man, it's a universal law. If you got dudes in the trenches,


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[Assistant] There is nothing you can do about it. I played D-line, and I got up there. One year we played against Lawrence Moroney and Marion Barber at Minnesota, was on ESPN, and the old you Bobcats, and we had a home game against the Big Ten team, and guess what? They destroyed that tape, Leroy.


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[Assistant] Let's transition and get to these rounds. You being in the playoffs, uh, you know, as, as a player.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to get the mindset and let everybody know, what's the different mindset that you think the Browns have to have when they go from regular season to playoffs? Because one thing that we haven't talked about is just they have veterans, but they have not had


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[Assistant] You know, Chris, we were talking about it amongst ourselves. Is it crazy to think that this might be the Browns?


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[Assistant] Best opportunity to win a Super Bowl? Like, like, you know, looking forward or like just the way the circumstances have laid there in the playoffs. It seems like teams aren't playing up like Patrick Mahomes isn't playing up to snuff. Is this an opportunity for the Browns to win a championship when you didn't even think that they would even be in the playoffs given this year?


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[Assistant] You know, Chris, uhm, last question, we thank you for coming, jumping on with us. Uhm, what's, when you watch this game, if you say the Browns are going to win the game, will it be because of Joe Flacco and what he did with the offense or will it be because of the defense and what the defense is going to do to CJ Straub?


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[Assistant] One thing I think that we're discounting a little bit is because we're in the playoffs now. We're in the playoffs now and you're looking at a situation where you're in the playoffs and you kind of...


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[Assistant] You know, you start over. So starting over in our minds means we kind of forget just how good the Browns defense is and we forget how good they are when they are full strength.


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[Assistant] And so when you talk about the running game, it is imperative for Houston to be able to run a ball with Singletary or Pierce or whoever they're bringing in the game. Because the thing that the Browns do better than anybody else is three it out.


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[Assistant] And the thing that they want to do in this game to CJ Stroud is he's a rhythm type quarterback. So he wants to string together some plays. He wants to be able to take his deep shots. He wants to be able to stay on schedule.


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[Assistant] Good luck doing that against the Cleveland Browns on 3rd of 10 or 3rd and 11. Any holding penalties, false starts, any of those things are going to put you behind the sticks. I think they have to run the ball, they have to stay and be consistent with running the ball and keeping the threat.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's why if you ask me what is the, the, I guess, what is the prescription for the Browns winning this football game, it's getting out scoring points early in the game, getting out to maybe a 17 to 3, 14 to 3 type game, and then let that defense know, hey, look,


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[Assistant] You gotta move the distance of the field. You're gonna have to overcome this pass rush. And I know C.J. Stroud is cool, calm, and collected.


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[Assistant] But you just gonna be cool, calm, and collected getting off the turf. There's a difference between being comfortable and being effective. And I don't care who you are, you can be Joe Montana. If you getting hit and you don't know where the blitz is coming from and you can consistently get pressure,


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[Assistant] Any quarterback is susceptible to turnovers or poor play. We ain't gotta have them throw picks. We just need some incomplete


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[Assistant] Are talented enough on the outside or up front or at running back to play a conservative style game.


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[Assistant] I think the reason the Browns are here today is because of the touchdowns and because of the interceptions.


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[Assistant] I've come to the conclusion that that's part of the game. That's part, that is part of how the Browns can win. And if you don't, if you say, Joe.


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[Assistant] Just, just making this the game. Right. You ain't got enough outside to


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[Assistant] My uncles are pretty tall, but they're thin as rails. They're all rails. Wow. Thin as rails. Like eat anything they want. Small. Now I'm trying to


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[Assistant] Left tackle at, uh, Eastern Michigan. So he's probably about what he, you saw, about 6'3". Yea, he's a big dude, yea. 6'3". He's a giant. He's a big dude. Uhm, but other than that. Do we need to go on the, uh, Maury Polvich show? Because it's just the anomalies, like I got.


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[Assistant] Here's the crazy, you talk about the, you talk about the Kool-Aid mafia and how we have a cult. Listen, if you want to get cancelled in Cleveland,


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[Assistant] The easiest way. Say something bad about 24. Say anything about Nick Chubb. They will get you up out of here. They will spam your emails, Twitters. They will get you out of here. You cannot say nothing about Nick Chubb. I would take


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[Assistant] How crazy is that? They might need to take my phone away from me because I'm going to be on Twitter going crazy. I'm going to let y'all know right now, don't follow me. Like, I'm going to be going nuts. Either way, Duke of New Jersey, full extended.


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[Assistant] Zip zero? Yeaah, I mean. We all in a- we in a- I didn't flip the switch to a point where


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[Assistant] I don't, no disrespect to Deshaun Watson, I don't even be thinking about it like that. It's like, it's like saying, do you think of your ex-wife on your anniversary with your new wife? Nah, like, it's like, out of sight, out of mind, like, you know, not that to say he's our ex, but this is what we've been waiting for, it's playoffs, all that rest of that stuff.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I just don't know. Although last year it wasn't that bad. Like we thought he was going to have stuff thrown on the field. The dude was taking pictures. When there were like 20,000 fans there or something, no one showed up. Yea, it was kind of messy.


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[Assistant] In the industry, who t-who chooses that? Who says- Individual producers. Game producers. Game producers. Like, gimme- gimme that, Deshaun. Watch Deshaun.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. Ridiculous. Let me give you guys this. Who's, cause I'd be rude for these upsets. I secretly want to bronze a playoff, own playoff game.


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[Assistant] Is there any chance of an upset with these two teams, Pittsburgh and uh, with the Dolphins?


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[Assistant] That's tricky for them. It's one game. Winner, winner, winner takeoff with Joe Flacco or Hex. No, listen. You asked. I know he didn't want to say you don't want to play the random. No, he's saying it's tricky.


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[Assistant] And they have championship medal. They do. And they got running game, they got passing game, they got the quarterback, they got, you know, Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is still there. Listen, I liked him as a dark horse.


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[Assistant] That, see, stuff like that, the dudes that be in the locker room, that, that kind of stuff count. Like, that shows, like,


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[Assistant] They believe in him, it's his huddle, it's his team, and it's like, and the way he's talking about it, you can tell.


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[Assistant] Just the level of buy-in that he got, the way he's speaking about that. He like...


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[Assistant] who, who you saw go in the road, which you might have to do. It makes a difference. It makes a difference. I mean, Bernie's


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[Assistant] That's why I'm happy that they got up and spoke to them because now, if you did the award, if you Miles Garrett, the actual best players on your team that may be not been there,


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[Assistant] He's explaining to them, listen man, you don't take this for granted. You may never get back into the playoffs. There's Joe Thomas out here who ain't never had a playoff game. You better play, you better leave it all on the field. Everything you got, you better leave it out there. And that's why I say,


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[Assistant] Hey, you got a rookie that is there, but you done put years into this game.


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[Assistant] So for you to be like, oh, we're gonna, hey, let's have a nice story for CJ Stroud. No, you got a lot of years in this league, rookie. We hope you to be.


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[Assistant] A rookie cannot be your best player. I don't believe that. Can you be a number one player or number one option? I just don't believe that you can win a Super Bowl with a rookie being your best player.


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[Assistant] If he does, listen, I'll crown him. I ain't afraid to crown nobody. If CJ Stroud do something like make it to the AFC Championship game, Imma just say I ain't never seen nothing like that. See, I've crowned him already.


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[Assistant] Might as well. So G Bush is coming in, he has to sit down so we can play it on Tag Board. Give me one, one second. Okay, alright.


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[Assistant] You know, if I feel great, never better. If you missed the ultimate car accident show on overtime yesterday, I would suggest becoming a member to go back and watch that. Gee, you missed it, but we turned overtime into a car accident 101 and car accident procedure 101.


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[Assistant] I wanna set up this first topic, guys, with this. Well, you mentioned yesterday.


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[Assistant] That someone tweeted out how many teams would trade their starting quarterback for CJ Stroud straight up.


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[Assistant] I think we all agreed that the list is 5, 6 teams tops, correct?


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[Assistant] Would everyone switch their answers from the rook to the wily vet who has tremendous postseason success?


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[Assistant] For Joe Flackham? Yea. Steve, will you pull up, uh, 160, please?


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[Assistant] I went through, I made the Flacco playoffs stats this morning. I didn't remember or realize this, but to your point about quarterbacks getting more comfortable as the season goes on, I think there is, and I'm sure there's tangible evidence, I don't have it ready to present right now, but quarterbacks in the playoffs also getting more and more comfortable.


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[Assistant] Playoff career. Yeah, it's just, it's different. And once again, that 2011 playoff run, unbelievable. First playoff game, 9 for 23, no touchdowns, no interceptions, 135 yards. Second, and he won. And they won that. They won that game. They also won this next game.


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[Assistant] I'm not trying to make a point, I'm just showing that there is growth here that happens.


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[Assistant] So he has, in his career, five playoff losses. We'll count this year first. 2009 to Roethlisberger.


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[Assistant] 2010 to Manning. Yea. 2011 to Roethlisberger. 2012 to Brady. And 2015 to New England. That was Brady. Yea, you're right. All.


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[Assistant] And we'll know more about the injury situation for the Browns and that can change the spread as it goes along. But I wanted to ask you guys this. There have been a bunch of Browns players who have been injured.


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[Assistant] Banged up, missed a few games here over the last couple weeks. There's eight I listed. Let's whittle them down in terms of the most important to get back for a deep playoff run.


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[Assistant] Down to, we don't have to go all the way down one through eight, but let's start with whoever you think is the most important. And these are the eight guys who are currently at least listed on the injury report that our key stars, you have Delpit, Thornhill,


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper, Dustin Hopkins, Agbo.


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[Assistant] Tillman, Moore, and Pierre Strong who injured himself last week. He's more of a key special teams guy than Akikog in the offense. But, uh, I think there's a pretty obvious number one out of this eight. I think there's an obvious


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[Assistant] Because of how well Alex Wright has played down the stretch, I would lean towards Elijah Moore in this instance, because the drop off from Ogbo to Wright is nowhere near the drop off from Elijah Moore to Tillman.


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[Assistant] Can I say something real quick before you hop in? It is crazy, and this is a testament to the drafting and roster building of Andrew Berry here, that Grant Delpit, who is one of the best safeties in football, is a pro bowler, might be number five on this list, and I don't think


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[Assistant] I think you could argue for him to be higher, but. Doesn't that speak to the depth at that position too? Yeah, you're saying. Well, who's left? Thornhill? Thornhill, Delpit, Tillman, and Pierre Strong. So yea, I mean, Delpit's gotta be 5, right?


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[Assistant] G, can I ask you a question? In terms of the Delpit Thornhill drop off to who's been filling in, which McLeod who then got hurt, you have Hickman, you have Harmon, you have D'Anthony Bell who's all filled in admirably.


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[Assistant] Those are five damn good safeties, and in a league where there- I don't feel like there's a ton of great safeties, the fact that the Browns were able to find two-


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[Assistant] Well, Belle wasn't undrafted. Well but was, was Belle undrafted last year?


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[Assistant] Hickman's definitely undrafted. Hickman's definitely undrafted out of Ohio State. They signed Thornhill, they extended Delpit. Bell either late draft picker or undrafted. I forget exactly. Look it up. The fact that they found those five guys at the same position group.


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[Assistant] On this roster together and we lose our two starting safeties and we don't really notice a drop off.


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[Assistant] One more thing we'll move on, but I saw on Twitter, this is before I got here, so you guys have to confirm this to me, but apparently Andrew Berry and the front office had Nico Collins circled as the guy they wanted. I can believe that. And then he got drafted two picks before they took Anthony Schwartz.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, I sent you this tweet from Bill Barnwell yesterday, which, he's an NFL voter.


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[Assistant] He has a legitimate award. He's not necessarily old school. He does believe in analytics. And he released his end of season. He's a good writer. Yea, very good writer. Very respected in the NFL community. And he released his column on his end of season awards. And on his defensive player of the year award column, he wrote and voted for Myles Garrett third.


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[Assistant] We'll retweet this, but I'll give you the snippets of what he said in his column as to why he thinks Garrett will end up winning, but on his ballot


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[Assistant] He was third. He said his production in the second half of the season.


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[Assistant] And he essentially said it's just hard for him to vote for the best defensive player in football.


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[Assistant] To win the award when he had one sack in the last six games, while other players did more.


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[Assistant] Miles is still the heavy favorite on Fan Duel. Stevie can take the odds here. He's minus 250. Significantly better chances than Micah Parsons in second, or TJ Watt here in third. But, after seeing Barnwell's article,


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[Assistant] Are you guys a little concerned that Miles is gonna get snubbed here of the award, knowing that it may come down to players, er, voters, excuse me, just simply looking at that sack number, not taking the whole thing into consideration?


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[Assistant] Micah Parsons actually has fewer sacks. I know! Is it 12?


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[Assistant] We'll talk a little more college football, Ohio state, Michigan and variable here in overtime. We're going to get to our final PFF wrap upgrades of the season. But first a quick note from game time. You should never have to worry about buying tickets to your next big event, whether it's a concert, a sporting event, a comedy show, a play, anything near you.


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[Assistant] And here's a little test of your memory and to see how well PFF did in totality, not just in a one game scenario. I'm going to give you eight players. We'll talk about each one for a minute or two and their position rank.


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[Assistant] Seven are legit, one is completely false. You gotta see if you can sniff out the rat line. You ready? So with Myles Garrett, he was the number one rated edge rusher in the NFL according to PFF with a 93.6 grade. Is that fair for Myles this year?


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[Assistant] If you believe this, that Greg Newsom, Steve, you take the next one, had the exact same grade and rank.


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[Assistant] Alright, so you have two that Jay has his eye on. How about Joe Flacco? Steve, let's take Flacco here.


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[Assistant] Alright, next one, JOK. JOK, the 20th ranked linebacker. This combines inside and outside linebackers, but not edge rushers. So, 83 linebackers, 75.2 grade, 20 out of 83.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up, Steve, let's take it. How about Wyatt Teller, the 10th graded guard in football. That's about right. 72.9 grade.


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[Assistant] That's it. That's it. That's it. Next up Steve, how about MJ Emerson?


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[Assistant] Out of 128 receivers he graded out as the 20th highest with an 80.3 grade. I think that's real too.


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[Assistant] So of those eight. So let's see the first four again. You had miles, one out of 114. Yep. That's real.


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[Assistant] So who's the mole? Flacco. So two votes for Flacco, one for Njoku? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Y'all got me. It is Joe Flacco. Y'all got me. Let's take the real one. Let's take the real one. He ended up 22 out of 42 at a 74.2 grade.


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[Assistant] No, listen, it happens. It happens. You don't think they went out to dinner? And this is according to an article. Yeah, I think I read that too. He ordered scallops instead of steak in a steakhouse. And Dave Temple, the owner, was so enamored with the fact that he ordered something off topic from a steakhouse. It might be true because it's the same guy.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you all this, and this will be the last thing before we do Super Chat. Spend five minutes on it. But the Browns, as we know, have a fan base that transcends just Cleveland and just Ohio. It's a national and international fan base. And on multiple occasions this year, Jay, we've gotten reports from opposing stadiums that it was a Brown takeover.


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[Assistant] Browns fans traveled in troves, packed the stands, Indianapolis stands out as one particular and even Houston in LA 16, LA last year when the shaw made his debut for the team. It was half Browns, half Texans. A playoff game is a different scenario and it's much more difficult to get tickets. But do you expect the Browns to have another massive.


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[Assistant] Oh, well, we kind of touched on it earlier. We mentioned I'm still getting notifications from that tweet. Uh, it's old takes exposed has liked it G, just a heads up. So we could be old takes exposed if it comes to it.


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[Assistant] If CJ Shroud is on Twitter, he's been tagged in this tweet about 7000 times. Just throwing it out there.


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[Assistant] We'll talk a little bit about Michigan in overtime. Clay Daddy 25 says you have to consider the nuance. I have to imagine all the backup quarterbacks count.


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[Assistant] I have to imagine all the backup QBs accounts for at least a notable amount of that 8% change.


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[Assistant] I wonder if the week 17 where no one plays their players affects the score. I wonder if they could take out week 17. I mean, it happens every year though. So it's still apples to apples. Uh, the guards won six says hail to the victors. Let's go Browns. Make it two and two, uh, two for two in Houston this week.


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[Assistant] Charles T says, G Bush looks like P.M. Dawn's hood cousin.


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[Assistant] But gosh, I just, I can't get the motor started. It's like, you know, when I go back to playing, it's just like when people say the coaches always talk about finishing. And so in this case, you're like,


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[Assistant] Wouldn't it be great that the Browns didn't have anything to play for, and they still came out with the JVs. That's always been a sign to me that you've really got a good program, that when your JVs play, the JVs even run the system good.


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[Assistant] You're doing something. Because that, I mean, you got Columbus, you got Cleveland, you got Cincinnati. Yeaah. And a lot of D1 players. And a whole bunch of D1 guys. So in 2,000 yards, that's, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] You are kidding. Very impressive. The most impressive thing to me, he could have easily, I'm sure, went to St. Nations or Ed's. Right. But he stayed at a local school and he balled out. I think that's cool. I like that. Loyal to his city.


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[Assistant] So tell the people the only very narrow scenario in which the Browns in the second round, because that's what they want to know. How can we get a home second round playoff game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's a, that's a, you know, that's an all Ohio thing. Oh, you made all Ohios a junior. All you gotta do is be breathing and make it as a senior. Yeah, you're right. So, I, but I thought, uh, uh, Teller, Wyatt Teller had a better year than Batonio. I agree. And, um, Teller's an alternate.


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[Assistant] Like everyone know, everyone knew uh, Hutchinson was great for the Vikings. Right. Everyone knows like, okay, well you're good, they'll put you in. Right. But my, my thing, the glaring issue is there's no Emerson. There's no Emerson to be found. Not even, not even in Albany.


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[Assistant] They had a few games where they just killed teams. If Grant Delpert would have been healthy, and here's the thing, I think Hopkins, Borges, and Grant Delpert, if they would have been able to play and finish out the season, they would have been on.


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[Assistant] I think teams put that out separately and the Browns didn't do it. The analogy sticks today too. These are citizenship awards.


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[Assistant] If you're listening to MJ Emerson, listen man, I saw you.


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[Assistant] No touchdowns allowed. A 47.8 passer rating allowed. Lowest of any quarterback.


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[Assistant] Wow. And on top of that, he played in every single game.


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[Assistant] So how, how can he do any better? I mean, you know, people talk about four interceptions this year, a lot of past breakups. So my thing is, if you look at it...


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[Assistant] Chloe Sloop, you know, in awards for the Browns Coach of the Year.


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[Assistant] Sisting of the year. They don't get, uh, also, uh, defensive player of the year. And I think they should have comeback player of the year. I think Brown should have all three. Good case for it.


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[Assistant] And Njoku too. And Njoku, okay. And Betonio.


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[Assistant] Debo Samuel is not number three. Like he is not number three.


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[Assistant] That's true, that's true. They're fast. They're fast. I love them. Madden. That's the Madden Impact. I never would have thought this. The Madden call is so strong. It is strong. Like, these guys will, like, they dictate it. Like, online, it's all about the Dolphins. It's all about the Dolphins and how fast they are. That's it.


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[Assistant] That's why I respect the NFL Top 100. But they get plenty wrong on that, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Right. What's up G? Do you believe, I'm gonna ask you this, do you, do you believe players nowadays care more about their batting rating than Pro Bowl?


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[Assistant] No. Now here's what I will say. I think there's a lot of young players.


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[Assistant] Who understand that it is so difficult to get in the NFL Hall of Fame. They're just like, I live in a moment. Like I can't calculate. Like I'm, I don't think I'm going to be a seven time pro bowl. Yeah, you're right about that. So they're


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[Assistant] You guys are more plugged in. Baseball fans are by, by and large the most informed


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[Assistant] Nine. I wanted to get him ten. So bad. I wanted to get him ten, but he's-


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[Assistant] But you know Kareem Hunt been banged up since he got here. Like I think he played the first game and got hit on his thigh and he been gutting it out. He was like, but I am not about to tell him I'm hurt. Nope. Nope.


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[Assistant] Give me those reps. Yeaah, get you, get you some reps in there, dawg. You got, you only have like nine offensive linemen. You gotta play some guys. That's why they got set, they got set full. They're like, listen. James Hudson. Christians can go down if you want to. I'll come on out. I play James Hudson too.


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[Assistant] It's about, like, it's going to be a close vote, but listen, there won't be a recount. He is the favorite, right, for DPOI? He is, yes. And if they win 12 games, which he's not going to be a part of, he's definitely going to win it.


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[Assistant] Hey, McNuggets, think about it like this. When, when PER came out, right? And when PER came out, that was the main determination


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[Assistant] Last thing you need is a team, the only weakness that I see.


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[Assistant] On the Cleveland Browns defense is the fact that there's times they get gashed in the run game. There is no way that I'm going into a game, especially given the fact that you may see the Colts who have.


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[Assistant] Jay okay? No. Oh, come on. No chance. Nope. Uh, Taki Taki. Yup. I'm okay with him going. Yup, me too.


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[Assistant] Listen, I like Hickman so much, I would, I'd be tempted to play him over Thornhill. And when the playoffs come. Wow. He's got a nose for the


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[Assistant] That's right. I actually really like that idea. It's kind of ironic we sit here, you know, I went viral a couple years ago talking about Damar Hamlin.


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[Assistant] And so now it's like you come full circle and it's a year. Now he's up for the world, but, but award for comeback player of the year, but ironically.


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[Assistant] To me, that word means, a word means...


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[Assistant] Who, who did it on the field? I agree with that. He was only active for one game.


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[Assistant] It's just the definition of, okay, well who, who, you know, come back, you know, means you was done. You was out of here, you wasn't, you know, you had a bad year, or you were out of the league.


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[Assistant] But he, he could have even better numbers. He could have nine, it'd be nine, it could be nine and eight after this game, 4,000 yards, 30 touchdowns. Nine and seven.


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[Assistant] Who you going with? I'm gonna go, well, you know, come on.


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[Assistant] I like his research, a lot of research. That was, he had, I didn't know his stats to some of the members, I didn't know he was that good. Listen, they surprised me too, G. Surprised me a little bit. Uhm, I'mma, you know, I'mma go with.


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[Assistant] You know, like I said, Damar Hamlin in real life, he's winning. Uhm, but I'm talking about on the field. Baker Mayfield is up for that. Like, he's gonna get multiple and a lot of votes based on that information, especially if they can get to the playoffs. For me,


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[Assistant] I just think the narrative for Joe Flacco is growing.


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[Assistant] And it's bubbling and it will continue to grow. Because first of all, you look at it from a respective point with the Jets. You come from a major market, right? So there's a major flashlight on, wow, the Jets let this guy go. Two, he did it with it counting down the backstretch. Uhm, and there was a couple of games on TV.


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[Assistant] That helped him a lot. And plus, the Cleveland Browns, traditionally, who they've been, uhm, in not having a quarterback in the way he came in, and started breaking records, I think that's crazy too. I think also, when you juxtapose Deshaun Watson, and you juxtapose what Joe Flacco is in his demeanor,


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[Assistant] There are going to be people who have votes that already said, I said earlier this year, they'll never, Deshaun Watson could have the best numbers of, in the next 10, 15 years, they'll never vote for him for MVP.


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[Assistant] That stigma was on the Browns. People said, we don't even want to watch the Browns. Now you get a guy like Joe Flacco, they get the story. Now the national media shit's all over. They're just, listen, this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco, they keep saying he got off his couch. He has five children. He was in daddy daycare. They just kept going on and on and on. It's a lovely story. It's a very good story. And now that the Browns have an opportunity to actually make noise in the playoffs at a high level.


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[Assistant] I think that's gonna be what people vote on, not necessarily who did the most. Cause if you look at the names, I do think Baker Mayfield did the most statistically, but the story is just too doggone good.


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[Assistant] And he was bad when he did play. So, do you think his floor last year was higher or lower than Baker's? So like, Baker came from like...


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[Assistant] When he's a comeback player, who came back from the worst type of season? Like, Matthew Stafford, yes he was hurt, but I think everybody knows that. Matthew Stafford played, he only played nine games with. He could play, he could play. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Third of the team's game. They're gonna pay it forward. Like the league office is like, there's no other way we're gonna do this. I don't care. And by the way, who's voting for this? Who votes for this? I don't know. I think it's writers.


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[Assistant] I agree with you. I hope Joe wins it. On merit, on merit on the field, it's just kind of weird. I think Baker has the best, the best resume on, on paper. I think he has.


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[Assistant] Listen, I vowed to turn everybody off the radio. If you call up and you say anything about Flacco or Watson, I'm cutting you off. I'm going to enjoy my holiday like my dad said. You guys better watch out. I'm enjoying my holiday season. I'm enjoying the playoffs, Aditi. We talk about that down the road. Good for you.


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[Assistant] Okay, like- I know, but- Didi, let me, let me ask you this question. Let me give you this. So, so you mean it to tell me.


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[Assistant] So the Pittsburgh Steelers, they've had some issues with the coordinators.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, moving around. They've had some issues with a quarterback they drafted and...


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[Assistant] A quarterback they've had and some controversy and doing things like that.


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[Assistant] Is this a knock? Is this a hit? Like, I'm not saying, cause here, I enjoy it all. I, I listen, I, I enjoy it.


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[Assistant] Big time move. I didn't know. Like, this is co-signed by somebody at the Cleveland Clinic. I'm like, this dude got Issei on a bag. It's infused with nutrients. I drink, I don't, I'm not a big coffee drinker because I'm, I'm a versicafé.


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[Assistant] But let me tell you something. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Thank you. It give you the extra little pep. It got you some vitamins in there. My parents love it. They tried to take one of the bags with them. Said, I ordered your own. We need to get it in stores. I know it's available on Groovy Coaster.


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[Assistant] See, when you got game managers that throw picks, you're in trouble because they don't have the skill set or the arm to get you back in the game. And he can dig himself out of his own hole. Joe Flack!


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[Assistant] Let me dig this, Bernie. Uhm, I wanna see if you caught this.


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[Assistant] During the game, uh, against the Jets, Joe Flacco, um, drops back, he threw the football and, uh, Cedric Tillman ran the wrong route.


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[Assistant] He's taking control of the huddle and he's the leader. And for him to admonish him.


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[Assistant] At that point shows me that he's getting comfortable to a point where he's taking ownership. What did you see in that interaction and what did you think when you saw that on the screen?


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[Assistant] Your perfect example of why it would work. I don't understand why people keep saying, first of all, Deshaun wouldn't have a problem with it. Unequivocally, he's a student in the game, he would not have a problem with it. Not even a thought. Third, I'm gonna go to skip to all the way to the third. Bernie Kozar was on the Miami Dolphins with Dan Marino. Two of the best minds in the world. They didn't have no problem.


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[Assistant] Play action game, what are you looking at pre snap, post snap, the way you've studied. Think about this, you got a guy who came off his couch and came into the league of elite people and is dominating. But here's the thing, you need to finish this. But if you have that, I wanna know how you were able to do that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Player of the Week and good for Amari. That was so much fun to watch, uh, you know, to be there in person to talk to him after that and see how excited he was. You know, sometimes he doesn't show a whole lot of emotion in interviews, but he just couldn't help but smile and, and, you know, just be very jovial and crack some jokes after that. And, uh, it was a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, we'll have to see. It all depends on the matchups. It depends on who they draw in the playoffs. Now when I look ahead to him having to face the Baltimore Ravens and you see what Jadavian Clowney is doing and Roquan Smith,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I think that could be a very difficult out because they are down to their fourth and fifth tackles and that could be really tough. Especially if it's on the road.


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[Assistant] To go out there and accomplish what he has accomplished over the last few weeks against a defense like this. These guys are really good. They're good in the back end. They're good up front.


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[Assistant] So, you know, we'll have to see how this goes. I think that's the thing that could cross them up as they move forward is being down to their fourth and fifth tackles.


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[Assistant] Watching football with the kids running around in South Jersey and the New York Jets, when Aaron Rodgers went down on the fourth play of the game, never bothered to call him.


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[Assistant] And that has to hurt, that has to stick in his craw because he had been with that team for three years. He knew the system, he knew the scheme.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that Kevin can call anything for any kind of a quarterback. And I think that Deshaun can run anything, uh, that anybody would ever ask him to do.


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[Assistant] So I think you really want to play to the strengths of your QB, and that's what they're doing right now. They're playing to Joe Flacco's strengths, and I don't think it necessarily matches up, uh, so much better with Kevin than Deshaun did, I think a lot of people.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's that. It was a small sample size that Kevin had with Deshaun Watson in terms of


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[Assistant] And concepts and things like that. So it's looking good. And uhm, you know, and I think it will continue to look good.


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[Assistant] But I do think that Deshaun has shown some flashes of being pretty darn amazing in a Kevin Stefanski called offense as well. And we saw it in the second half.


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[Assistant] of that Baltimore game where he went out there and he beat Baltimore. And if he hadn't done that, uh, you know, who knows, they might not be in the playoffs right now. So he had a five and one record that of course includes


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[Assistant] Uh, the Colts game that PJ Walker came in and won, but, uh, you know, he was off, he, you know, he was off to a pretty decent start.


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[Assistant] The future still looks bright for Deshaun and Kevin together.


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[Assistant] All you have to do is, you know, you have to just look at the record. The record is pretty good this year by him. There's no way they would be where they're at without the contribution that he made, including in the second half of that Ravens game, which I thought was a signature


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[Assistant] And you know, some of the other stuff in the very beginning, you're still trying to figure out, okay, what are we doing with Elijah Moore?


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think Deshawn showed what he's all about in the second half of that Ravens game to go into Baltimore and to be able to beat that football team that is now 12 and three. I think that's, you know, that should, you know, tell people what he's all about and what he's going to be able to do. So I know everybody.


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[Assistant] Reverses and some jet sweeps and other things to try to simulate a running game. I mean they're doing the best that they can, but when you have a compromised and challenged offensive line like this, it's difficult.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you know, it is, it's interesting too because I think they really believed that Jerome Ford, uh, was going to, you know, light it up this year. And he hasn't really for one reason or another over the last several games. So.


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[Assistant] I think those guys are all going to have to step it up. The blockers are going to have to step it up. They also lost, you know, their ability to run that, you know, that big personnel game that they were trying to do because of more injuries on the offensive line. So if they get back to doing some of that, I think they can kind of crank it up a little bit.


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[Assistant] Tremendous party on the lake front on Thursday night. If they clinch, and I think they will, and you know, fans deserve it, they're gonna go 8-1 at Cleveland Brown Stadium. I mean, how much fun is that for fans?


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[Assistant] So, you know, it's been great and it does remind me again of those AOC Championship years and the Bernie Cozar years and fans really deserve this.


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[Assistant] Injured reserve and uhm, you know, so there might be another move or, you know, or two that they can make like that. So they'll be able to make those elevations and uh,


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, they're, they're gonna have to do that. I mean, I, again, I haven't checked, but, I mean, maybe Kellen Mond is still out there. Uh, so yeaah, they're gonna have to do that. They need to bring


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[Assistant] Talked to DTR in the locker room yesterday. He was really down.


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[Assistant] I think he'll be available for the playoffs. It's his plant leg. It's his plant leg, so I think that, uh, you know, with all the great modalities and all the treatment that they have, I think he'll be able to get back for the playoffs, at least some of them.


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[Assistant] I'd be scared to go against the Browns. There's so many different ways that they can beat you. Like who, who do you scheme now? You know, you think about not having certain guys and other guys are stepping up and making plays. That's a dangerous team. Hide the women and children and change the locks.


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[Assistant] You guys left. Oh, absolutely. Downtown was rocking last night. Even when I was walking out the station, it was a bunch of people still on the streets, getting still drinking. I'm like, man, y'all need to go home. I understand. No, the stadium from when the time I got there, I went past the Muni lot. It was packed.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, the Cardiac Club ain't never really packed like this, but it was packed. You could feel the energy. I loved the LED light show. Yeah, that was awesome. Man, announcements, when they did player announcements, the place went wild. Nick Chubb came out there, broke the guitar. The Batman mask. With the Batman mask.


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[Assistant] You know, Mike Nuggets asked me, he was like, how did they compare to like a college atmosphere to you?


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[Assistant] I said to be honest with you, I thought it was better last night. I've been in some college atmospheres, but I thought last night was better because


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[Assistant] It meant more. It was passion because it's a team that, you know, obviously has, hasn't been on the high ends of football. So you've seen this city come out and they finally believe in a team and they've seen the resiliency of a team.


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[Assistant] And it was just so much barking going on. It was, it was great, man. I had chills. I had chills. That place literally was shaking last night. Jason, I know you're in the press box.


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[Assistant] Or not last week, earlier this week. All I said was I needed to see Joe do it against better passive defense because it was a 29, 27 and 25th. And last night the Jets was ranked second.


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[Assistant] And he still was able to put up. And he didn't have a Mario Cooper. And he didn't have a Mario Cooper. He still managed to get it done. So I am wacko for Flacco. He definitely.


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[Assistant] Prove the point that I needed to see. He has my total confidence moving forward. I am a true believer in Joe Flacco and taking this team all the way. It's just something about him and Kevin Stefanski. I said it on the post game show for the past two weeks. You know, sometimes you get with a, with an offensive mind and it's just like,


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[Assistant] Peanut butter and jelly. Y'all just go great together. And it just seems to me, Kevin Stefanski and Joe Flacco is peanut butter and jelly. They just, it just works.


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[Assistant] And when you go get a guy, and I credited to Jim Swartz. I think Jim Swartz started it. That was to me was the first thing that they were trying to get the culture to change. You know Jim Swartz. You know what he's about. You know what he brings. You know his history. You know what he does with defenses. So they went out and got a guy.


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[Assistant] A lot of people don't know this, but when you're an offensive minded coach, you really don't know too much about defense. Like I said, I've been around a lot of great offensive play callers.


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[Assistant] They don't really know, defense is not they thing. That's why you go get somebody that can handle it. You don't have to worry about them fixing it. They can handle it themselves. Well, Kyle Shanahan's not even on the headset. At all. At all.


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[Assistant] Everybody was mad at him for like having the play sheet in front of his face. He needs to be, get the pulse of the team. Well, I think at a certain point of that season, he tried to do that. He had to, I gotta worry about the defense now. I gotta worry about special teams now. And I think, and I still gotta keep up with offense.


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[Assistant] So I think to take some stuff off his plate, let's go get us a defensive guy that can handle it.


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[Assistant] So the Jim Swartz thing was the first thing. After the Jim Swartz thing, the next thing you need to do is get some players that have great foundation that's been to the Super Bowl or that's been on winning cultures so you can come and change the culture.


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[Assistant] You go get Wine Thornhill, a guy who's won the Super Bowl two times. You go get Zedarius Smith. You go get Dalvin Thomason, these guys that's got some playoff experience.


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[Assistant] And they've brought that, that winning attitude over here and these players have done a great job of adapting to it.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I think it's really, Kevin Stefanski's doing a really good job of


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[Assistant] Realizing what Joe Flacco's strength is. When we had Joe Flacco's college coach on, he said the best thing about Joe Flacco is he's not afraid to fail.


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[Assistant] That's what he said. He is fearless. That's clear. Exactly. But you know what? When you get into a new system and you get around new players, you so desperately want to win them over. You want to win the team over. And you play timid. You're scared to do certain things.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco from day one has come in and let that ball fly. And if, let the, let the best thing happen. And ever since he's done that,


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[Assistant] I think for the first time when you hear like a Mario Cooper talk after the game, you know, about, about Joe Flacco, he's like, yeah, man, we just kind of see it the same way, you know, and this guy does a great job of delivering the ball. He make throws that some, not a lot of quarterbacks that I've played with been able to make.


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[Assistant] So now it's got confidence in the rest of their guys, it's like.


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[Assistant] So he's brought confidence in the rest of these guys. They know if I get open, he's going to get me the ball. If I'm the right read, if I do the right thing, the ball's going to find me. So these guys are going out there playing hard and for Joe, it's just about listening.


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[Assistant] But to be fair in that category as well, as a former player,


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[Assistant] I don't know if anybody else got any Super Bowl experience besides him, right, on the offense? On the offense? Yea. No, I don't think so. Right, so everybody's gonna listen to him when he comes in. Whatever he says, let's lock in because this guy has already been to where we want to go and we want to get there. He knows how to take us there.


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[Assistant] So it holds weight with what he's saying. That's why for Gok, day one, he was going to get the respect that he deserved because he's already been a Super Bowl champion.


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[Assistant] That's actually funny because that's what happened when I was in college at Ohio State. JT did that to us at a bowl practice. Scout team? Scout team. Came out there with bang, bang. I was like...


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[Assistant] I'ma tell you why it's hard to bet against him because obviously, even though he's having these magnificent games, we've seen a game over this run where he struggled. The Chicago game, where he had the three turnovers. But he still, second half, turned it around and won the game. So it's, it's so hard to bet against him.


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[Assistant] The first drive on defensively, it was kinda surprising.


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[Assistant] That's the thing, every team got their first 15 scripted plays, okay? So you come out there and as a defense, your job is you're playing your base thing. Because you have to figure out how is this offensive coordinator going to attack our scheme.


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[Assistant] So you really want to try to withstand that first, those first couple of drives to get through the first 15. After that, you kind of see, alright, this is where they're scheming us at. We need to make some adjustments and we'll stop everything.


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[Assistant] So that first play, or that first drive, Breeze Hall obviously was a huge, he was huge in that drive. He ran the ball well. He's a really good player. And then they knew that the Browns played man to man and they came out.


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[Assistant] With the 5 wide, Breece Hall went, ran an underneath route, got picked off and that's how he ran in for the end zone. So it was just them understanding what the Browns was going to do. The Browns realized how they were going to attack and they made some adjustments and they kind of nipped the rest of that in the bud.


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[Assistant] I was, the only shocking party going into that game, you knew Breeze Hall was literally their offense. So I thought that there should have been a premium on making sure that 20 don't stop.


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[Assistant] Anybody else, we'll, we'll, we'll live with that. But Breeze Hall can't be the one to stop us. And I think they kind of got to that point after that drive. But I would have opened the game up with that mindset.


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[Assistant] Well, coming into this game, you knew that, first of all, you know the Browns D-line is legit, and you know that the Jets offensive line is not that great. So you knew it was going to be a bunch of quick game, and it was going to have to be screens. That's the only way you can offset if your offensive line can't


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[Assistant] You gotta get rid of the ball quick or you gotta run a screen game. And the Browns did a really good job of adjusting to that and that's when the coverage got tighter and now you can't really make those quick passes.


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[Assistant] You know what I, but the thing I did like about Ronnie Hickman is they figured out that Gary Wilson was the only, was the only weapon that they had. So they kept putting Hickman on the side of Gary Wilson and he was being like a,


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[Assistant] He could be in the box. He could be in the post. Like he had a bunch of responsibilities and it really showed his versatility with the Cleveland Browns. Cause now this is a guy that you could play in the box, but you could also put him in the post. He could do everything, which is very hard to do at safety being able to do both.


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[Assistant] I was just gonna ask you that. I don't think he tested well because at Ohio State he was really good. He kind of reminded me a lot of myself. He made big plays. I think he must have not tested well. He was a leader. You think being an Ohio State guy and playing well at Ohio State would


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[Assistant] I think his, I think his shoulder is not, is obviously not, but he wants to be out there to get his rhythm.


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[Assistant] None. Even though- In most of these situations. Even though Denzel went out though.


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[Assistant] You got, it was some positive light that came out of that. You found out about Cam Mitchell. I mean, that guy, G-New had to slide out outside, which every, before then we was like, oh, G-New can't play outside. And he actually started getting picks from out there. His game has gotten better.


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[Assistant] They've lost some key, they've lost. But everybody loses some guy. They've lost some key guys, but not the guy. No. That's the difference. They lost some guys, but not the guy. Right, Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Long as our kicker makes the kicks, which after he missed that first kick, I wasn't, I wasn't really down like that because D-Hawk missed extra points.


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[Assistant] He addressed it after the game. What did he say? They asked him, did you not go, did you not kick the field goal because you were worried that he wouldn't make it because he missed the first? He said no. He said the reason that he went for it is because he liked the situation.


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[Assistant] If they didn't get the, he said he liked his play call. He said, if I didn't know, if I didn't, wasn't a hundred percent confident in my play call, I would have kicked the field goal, but I liked the play call that I had called. I thought it would work and I was okay with our defense because at worst case we'll get the ball back at the 50. That's, that's it. First of all.


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[Assistant] I told you, I played with Shelby at Denver and I said the one thing I liked about Shelby is I think he was either first or second on that team in PBUs as a defensive tackle, which is a very underrated stat.


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[Assistant] And even though that was, what, four years ago, he still got that skill set and it's gonna come up alive. Especially when you go against some of them smaller quarterbacks. Matching that ball and getting that hand up and knocking it. I don't know why she'll be so good at that. It is. He gets that push back and he just...


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[Assistant] Throw that hand up and get in that window. I don't know how he does it. It's really remarkable and it's really a skill set that's really gonna help him extend his career even longer because that's, some of the best don't even do that. Eric Dotto might not do it to the success that Shelby does. I wonder if part of it is,


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[Assistant] You know, we've been talking to a bunch of people. I can't remember if it was here or if it was on the pregame show with Joe Thomas, but it was somebody that was talking about, I was like, what is a run scheme that they can do? And they was like, they should do the, the, the pin pull, you know, pin the guys down how the guys pull. And they did that like a few times.


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[Assistant] And it was so effective to have Batonio pulling or having Teller pulling. Then they came back and they were doing the thing where they put, uh, Harrison Bryan in motion and then he'd be the come to lead guy going back the other way.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski and Bill Callahan, whoever is the run game coordinator, they did a really good job of


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[Assistant] As long as we hold on to the football, they can be effective. I thought Jerome Ford, you're right, the patience was great. He was fine, it seems that he'd been missing this entire season. And you're right, he was definitely running harder than he would because a lot of the times he'd get tripped up off the littlest things, but he was running through arm tackles.


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[Assistant] Then we found out, everybody, you know, uh, Pierre Strong comes in there, he runs the ball, and he's very effective. And I'm like, he must got a fumbling problem. I did it twice yesterday. I said, he must got a fumbling problem. Very next play. Boom. And that touchdown with Kareem Hunt. There it is.


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[Assistant] That's just rushing. I would imagine he's leading the team in touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Joe talked about that Jerome touchdown. He was saying that, he was saying that he was scrambling and he said he actually had his mind made up that he was just going to take off and get the. I thought he was going to run. And he said what happened was he had, he had, he was tucking the ball and as he was running, he would, he had peeked behind him because he didn't want to get stripped.


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[Assistant] He said at that moment, he looked back and he seen Jerome and he just decided to throw it and it was a good play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because he had to put him back in, but at that moment, he was not putting him back in there. And I'm like, for that record, you're not gonna put him in? So yeah, Kevin don't care about none of that.


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[Assistant] I literally thought about that at the game, like, I would think.


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[Assistant] If you, listen, the one thing that Jarvis brings is a guy with some edge to him. Yeah. Okay, and.


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[Assistant] You can say Amari Cooper's pretty much a silent leader. He's like Amari Cooper. Yeaah. I mean not Amari Cooper, he's like Nick Chubb in that department.


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[Assistant] It don't hurt to get a guy that's not afraid to go across the middle of the field, take a drag, drop his shoulder and get those extra yards. That's literally what this team embodies right now, that toughness. And he fits that mold, so I would be okay if they go get Jarvis.


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[Assistant] Because me and McNuggets did his brother's workout and I understand exactly why that man do what he do. Cause that workout, whew, still got nightmares.


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[Assistant] But he could get that. If he would have eliminated the drops that he had in those like three weeks, those two or three weeks, he'd be much closer to breaking that record.


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[Assistant] Well that's perfect because I was going to ask you about the atmosphere last night. You played with the Browns and you had some success. I'm sure the atmosphere was pretty good. How do you compare last night compared to when you played?


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[Assistant] Bernie, when you look at, let's say, let's play devil's advocate and say that they lock in at the fifth seed.


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[Assistant] And they had to play an AFC South opponent in the first round. Who would you rather Jacksonville, Texans or the Colts?


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[Assistant] Bernie, what do you think is the biggest difference between this Cleveland Browns team and the ones in the prep in the past?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he's doing this like this. When he was running, he was with it open. And, you know, defenders look for that because he's a punch out candidate. You want to punch at the ball. You got to get that thing tucked like this. So you can keep, yeaah, just boom and it's going to come right out.


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[Assistant] Typically more people that got the ball, the time that they do that is when they're falling forward because they want to put the ball out. You see those defenders come in and punch at it and it comes out at the bottom.


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[Assistant] So he just gotta tuck that ball in and keep it close to his chest.


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[Assistant] You guys are the real MVPs. Why y'all gifted memberships?


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[Assistant] That's funny, because I said that. To be honest with you, when you go back and look at it, I'm pretty sure Garrett Wilson let him score on that play. Because he easily could have laid out and clipped his legs. I think he just was like, eh, go ahead. That was a lot of fantasy points from me, so thank you!


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[Assistant] I mean, that's fine. You just need a guy that you know can get it done and Austin Watkins did it in the preseason. Not saying that he can't get it done, but I would have to see it in.


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[Assistant] What's up guys? I'm excited to see how this show goes down because our pre-show meeting was one of the feistier pre-show meetings we've had in a long time.


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[Assistant] And sneak peek, Jay, real quick. Go ahead. And I'm not gonna tell you who, but someone on this panel thinks he's throwing for 300 yards this week.


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[Assistant] As the weather gets colder and the NFL season nears its end.


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[Assistant] With a 12-part same-game parlay on the Browns win over the Jets. A couple of the ones he hit on were in Joku over 40 receiving yards. Breeze Hall over 25 receiving yards. Joe Flacco over a passing touchdown.


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[Assistant] Usually, no, it's not the greatest one, I'll be honest, because...


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[Assistant] I didn't know who was playing, so this was more big picture overall brown stuff as we get ready.


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[Assistant] I look it up in one sec, but little teaser. Hickman's in the five stats that's coming up. Another guy to watch though, is Cam Mitchell.


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[Assistant] And you talk about making decisions, if Cam Mitchell steps in and plays at a level that...


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[Assistant] Is up to spar with some other guys. They have a lot of guys in second to that to get paid. Yeah. And not just as safeties, but as cornerbacks and...


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[Assistant] Guys, Mike. Well that leads us right into our next topic and a quick reminder that


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[Assistant] Vanduul, an official partner of the NFL. We'll talk about the NFLPA players poll and where Schwartz came in on that in a sec. But gee, to your point, and I just want to ask this question and maybe it's ridiculous, but I think it's, could be valid depending how you look at it.


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[Assistant] If you think Schwartz is as good of a defensive coordinator as I think we all look at him as, how good do you think this Brown's defense could be if you take the starting 11 out?


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[Assistant] And put Jim Schwartz with the backup 11, which do include some really good players like Hickman, Ogbo, Alex Wright.


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[Assistant] Shelby Harris, they got some ballers on that second unit. Gee, how good could this defense be? Jim Schwartz coaching the Browns second teamers.


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[Assistant] That's true. Let me ask you guys one thing real quick. We got Tim couch in four minutes, but there was the NFLPA players survey that came out and they ranked every player to vote on their own coordinator. So just their own coordinator rank them one to 10. They only released the top five. So there's a chance Jim Schwartz might be six by 0.1 points. We have no idea. But Steve take tag word full.


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[Assistant] Jim Schwartz wasn't among the top five highest rated defensive coordinators among their own players. It went Aaron Glenn of Detroit, Steve Wilkes in San Francisco, Dan Quinn of Dallas, Brian Flores in Minnesota, and Raheem Morris with the Rams.


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[Assistant] Just based on the way we've heard the players talk about Jim Schwartz, are any of you guys as surprised as I was that he didn't find his way onto this list? Which by the way, means nothing, it's not ancillary, but I was.


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[Assistant] We were talking about Joe Flacco and the first stat today is about.


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[Assistant] Mr. King Flakevely G Bush. You know, he is the only quarterback this season with four straight 300 yard.


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[Assistant] On throws of 10 or more air yards, he was 6 of 9 for 160 yards and two touchdowns. And why is that important? Well, since Joe Flacco took over as the Browns quarterback, they have the third highest explosive pass rate in the entire NFL at 12%. Before Flacco took over.


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[Assistant] All other quarterbacks before Flacco, they ranked 27th in the NFL. They've jumped from 27th to third with Flacco.


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[Assistant] An explosive pass rate that gone from just 5% before, which was 27.


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[Assistant] No, I, I, it just, it lumps it in by week. So I could, I could figure that out later, but right now it's all before they were, uh, 5% up to 12% now.


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[Assistant] I mean, the reality is that none of us are as smart as NFL executives.


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[Assistant] I won't say the couch, because we don't know he's not on the couch. He came back from his bedroom, it was in his house, chilling, and now he's doing it. Alright, let's get to the second stat though, because we got a couple more to get to. Uh, how about Miles Garrett? Here's the entire list of players with 14 or more sacks in 2021, 2022, and 2023. Miles Garrett. That's it.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's not the same as it used to be. I should lie. But he's on pace to break four single season PFF records for edge rushers. Overall grade, pass rush grade, pass rush win rate, and true pass rush win rate, which is, it takes out screens, it takes out pass plays that aren't...


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[Assistant] But, there's no ability to get a pass rush. So essentially, he is on pace for the single greatest edge-ruster season in PFF Metrics. So, the traditional stats may not back it up, but you look at the analytics, it's Miles, and it's everybody else.


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[Assistant] Alright, number three comes from Ben Baldwin aka the Computer Cowboy on Twitter.


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[Assistant] He's a good follower. He's really good, yeaah. So this, so don't ask necessarily context, I just have this, I don't know how he came up with this, but series conversion rate, which is essentially how often do teams turn a first in ten situation into another set of downs. From the defensive standpoint, the further the minus, the better.


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[Assistant] The Browns have a minus 11.4 series conversion rate better than the league average. So they are 10% better forcing teams to not turn a first-in-tenant to something else.