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[Assistant] Who got claimed? And there's going to be a lot of players probably getting claimed today. The Browns have the 12th spot in waivers. So if they're interested in some guys, we shall see. Will they get a running back? You know, will they?


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[Assistant] We will start, I mean, that will trickle in starting just afternoon. Okay. So we might note at least part of that list before the end of the show. So that's all coming up. We are going to talk to Gene Smith. Okay.


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[Assistant] It is last year as athletic director at Ohio State. He's going to join us at 12.30. It's all coming up. Mike, what do we got?


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[Assistant] Guys, I was very surprised by this. We talked about how excellent a player he was in San Francisco his first two years. You played with him, right, Kavis? Uh-uh. Oh, you missed him. What, you're missing by a year? Probably. Yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was really good, but last few years he's had a ton of injury problems, so hasn't been able to stay on the field. He had a great camp, he had a great preseason, it seemed like he was doing all the right things.


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[Assistant] Okay, now if that's true, if they kept, uhm, Elliot over Hearst.


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[Assistant] About one and a half million dollars, then what, what are we doing here, Gene? That's stupid. And now we don't know that that's the reason for sure, but if it is, that's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] If he's somebody that can clear and come back. They have more cash space than any team in the league. Any team in the league to be dickering around them with a roster over a million dollars, two million dollars.


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[Assistant] But maybe the Browns deserve at least a little bit of benefit now because they have seemed to done everything to be going all in, uh, this season.


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[Assistant] Let's face it, Andrew Barry overall has done an awful job drafting.


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[Assistant] Obviously we can't judge this year's crop yet. It's a crapshoot, man. But he did, he made a great pick with Emerson.


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[Assistant] I've seen the first two waver claims have been announced.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's not a waiver claim. He's a veteran. He's a guy I mentioned for the Browns yesterday. Trent Taylor. So let me get this right.


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[Assistant] What's his name, the return guy? I keep forgetting. Joaquin Grant. Joaquin Grant, they put him on IR already, so he's out for the year. And the second thing that I thought was interesting is the fact that they only kept three running backs. Now,


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[Assistant] You know, the Browns have kept four a lot. They may only go with three, but I just don't feel great about, we talked about this a little yesterday, about what they have behind Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] I think Melvin Gordon shot, I mentioned Kenyon Drake the other day, I don't know what you think of that. I'll tell you that. Uh, the guy on that list, Bradley Roby. Go Bucks! Go Bucks! If Denzel was going to miss time because of this concussion.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, right. By the way, Do you know the Patriots only have one quarterback on their roster right now?


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[Assistant] Man, Ryan's out. Go ahead, Carson Wentz?


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[Assistant] Well, you could have four running backs. You could put some of those linebackers on IR. Go ahead, Mike. What was that?


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[Assistant] Listen, in the end, we all think that's the case, that what he used as proof is not proof.


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[Assistant] And two of my friends, they were two brothers, and their last name was Lipschitz.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's, that's fake. That's fake, cause it sounds too real.


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[Assistant] We have a real bo- Nick Anderson. I'm gonna fake. He's generic. This is a real person.


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[Assistant] Bot Force. That's a great name. Uh, I'm going with Tyrus. I'm saying thing.


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[Assistant] The Washington game he didn't start. Their second, third, fourth, and fifth best defensive linemen were all not on the team last year. And their best safety, Juan Thornhill, was not on the team last year. Those are pretty significant differences.


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[Assistant] Listen, I think Zedaria Smith is important to the Browns, certainly. Maybe I got him a little low at 13, but, uh, I think six is crazy.


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[Assistant] Joel Batonio. Yeah. Nick Chubb. The Batonio one, eh. Who are you though? Denzel Ward.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay. Uh, Jedrick Wills. He's a left tackle. He may not be good, but he's an important position.


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[Assistant] I expected him to be right around that number. 9, 10 sacks, right?


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[Assistant] I think expecting him to get 13 sacks is a lot. I mean, that's that far off from 10. That's that he was hurt last year though. He was hurt. He was. Oh, he only missed one game. Zadarius? He had a little nagging injury. He didn't play as well second half of the year. Okay. I think he had most of his sacks in the first game.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this. Yes. Bigger Gap, Nick Chubb and Ford, Zedaria Smith and Ogbo.


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[Assistant] Because Earl blew off Jedrick Wills because he's not that good and it's arguably the third most important position in football, maybe second.


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[Assistant] Arguably the greatest back in the history of Cleveland Brown's football. And yes, I said the greatest back in the history of Cleveland Brown's football. When it's all said and done. That's a little... Certainly the greatest since Jim Brown. Alright, there we go.


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[Assistant] Browns win like four games without Nick Chubb last year, in my opinion. Last year.


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[Assistant] Otherwise, if there was four running backs that got picked, he would have been picked every year.


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[Assistant] That's right, All Pro is only, is not an AFC and an NFC.


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[Assistant] By the way, we're about to get into a segment about fake trades. Just in this moment, I was offered a blockbuster trade in my keeper list.


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[Assistant] You got money on that? Oh man. Caps 200. That's too much. He's making 50 where Khalil Herbert and IU. Now, I can't keep Khalil. I can only keep one out of the two between IU and Herbert.


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[Assistant] I already have, uh, uh, Davante Smith.


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[Assistant] I'm on Raw St. Brown and, uh, Calvin Ridley, so I don't really need Aiyuk. So what's wrong with you? I'd keep McAfee.


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[Assistant] Jordan Love. I don't know, man. I think Jordan Love might be decent this year. What do you guys think?


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[Assistant] Darius Smith is a very good, very important player. I will grant you, I probably had him too low on my list. If I had to do it again right now, I'd move him up a little higher. But to me putting him ahead of Nick Chubb is just great.


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[Assistant] If he gets 23 sacks, yeaah. Nick Chubb wears down a defense more than any, including Derrick Henry, I think, more than any back in football. And that's something you can't...


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[Assistant] Okay, I know it's gonna change based on the play, but in general, how many guys, like, you got Nick Chubb, you got Deshaun Watson. Let's say Deshaun Watson is playing at Houston Texan level, okay? How many guys you got in the box, in general?


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[Assistant] It's got, at the mo, at the minimum six. Minimum six, but maybe seven. If Jerome Ford is in the backfield, what are you doing? Seven, oh, five.


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[Assistant] Gee, what do you say to the people who would say, okay, I get it, it's big business, football and basketball, a lot of money, but what about the


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[Assistant] Kids who play, you know, the other sports, the volleyballs and all the travel that they have to go through. There's usually in those sports, I guess there's a lot of midweek games. I don't know. What are you saying to the families? Because I'm sure they're...


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[Assistant] Gene, you played for Notre Dame, of course. Are you surprised, or not surprised, that all these years later, that Notre Dame hasn't gone into a conference? Or did you never think they would?


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[Assistant] Gene, you played at the same time with Rudy. Obviously everybody knows the story. It's a famous, I mean, somebody told me over the years that he wasn't as likeable a guy as, as the movie made him.


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[Assistant] Gene, we so much appreciate your time. Best of luck if we don't speak to you before your retirement. Thank you. Appreciate you.


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[Assistant] In the last week, Mikey McNuggets laughed when I said Austin Watkins would not get claimed. G. Bush said he was the next great wide receiver.


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[Assistant] He's a guy on the practice squad. Nobody was dying to get him on a roster, and that's exactly what happened. Everybody thinks, and this is not just Browns fans, every fan base in America thinks the guy that stood out for them in the preseason is some great player that everybody wants. In most cases, he's not.


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[Assistant] If I have to hear one more time from Jason or Jay about how great a leg Cade York has, I'm going to throw up all of them my own leg and I've done that before on this show. So Austin Watkins is back, that's good. There was no need to panic because unfortunately he's just a guy.


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[Assistant] 23 out of 500 players, so nobody's, you know, going bananas. Any names of note of the 23?


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[Assistant] Why does Anthony get left out of the social media post there?


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[Assistant] No, but what, wasn't there something where you didn't, he wasn't tagged in that first tweet about your podcast yesterday?


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[Assistant] So how late were Earl and Anthony to work today?


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[Assistant] Can't we have Tyveson on Friday? No, we don't.


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[Assistant] But yes, if I had to do it as much, I'm sorry Nick.


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[Assistant] You came up with one of the few trades that I would have to insult my favorite brown player of all time. Nate Chubb is my all time favorite brown player.


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[Assistant] After that 2018 election, you saw a newer generation of Democratic members come in. They quickly became known as the Squad.


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[Assistant] Unsurprisingly, they were a little skeptical of Pelosi. They did see her as the first woman to ever be able to reach the place of power and influence.


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[Assistant] But at the same time, they also thought that she was representative of an older generation.


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[Assistant] Pelosi was saying, I know how to count votes. We have a majority. We can afford to lose those votes.


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[Assistant] The bigger thing that she was trying to say is they don't influence the party. They can try, they can be loud, but they're not going to change the legislation.


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[Assistant] I extend my hand of friendship to every member of this body. And to the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, I extend to you this gavel.


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[Assistant] The President bears responsibility for Wednesday's attack on Congress by mob rioters.


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[Assistant] My husband was shocked by the candor and asked what his choice was.


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[Assistant] Uh, no one did. It turned out to be a bad clam. Remember you have to tap the shells to make sure they're alive before you cook them. It's clam 101.


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[Assistant] Honey, honey. Yes, mama. Eating candy. No, mama. Are you sure? Yes, mama. Open your mouth. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, I'm currently at Comic-Con and these are the voices of the fans that have been nice enough to come up and say hi to me. So if you wanna say hi to me and get in the V-LOG, say hi to me.


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[Assistant] What was your name? Tom. Tom! So thanks Tom for being such a great person. Hi everybody, this is Emily Driesbach. Say hi. Hi. Hi. She's my first moderator on Twitch chat. Don't freak out just yet. So anyway, what's your favorite thing about Markiplier?


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[Assistant] Mr. Pathak, I have come here with a request and hope.


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[Assistant] So uhm,


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[Assistant] So they stopped me at the police checkpoint where there was a crowd of people.


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[Assistant] They checked my identification twice and checked the car and they didn't find anything. And when I was closing it, one of the officers threw in a bag and I told him, that's not mine, why are you putting that in my car?


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[Assistant] You need protection. It is called having a roof, or in Russian, криша.


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[Assistant] I started saying that I'm not happy with all finances going for this Palace, and I was told Putin is the Tsar and you are his servant.


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[Assistant] You think because you're a little girl, you can just get people killed and no one will care? That because you're SORRY, it'll all m-


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[Assistant] Well, I'm sorry if they think that because I made it an incredibly top priority.


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[Assistant] I think there was a level of greed, a level of excessive risk taking in this situation that I find abominable and I find very upsetting. But that is not what makes a criminal case. What makes a criminal case is that I can prove beyond the reasonable doubt every element of a crime.


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[Assistant] I'm a big believer in the jury system and juries are going to do what juries feel are right. These are tough cases, but we're going to continue to bring them. It's not a deterrence at all. We're marching forward.


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[Assistant] I can't really talk about any specific case, but Philip Angelidis and I have had very direct and very good conversations.


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[Assistant] But in reality, in a criminal case, we have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, not a preponderance, not 51%, beyond any reasonable doubt that a crime was committed.


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[Assistant] If we cannot establish that, then we can't bring a criminal case, but we don't let these institutions go. We've brought civil cases, we've brought regulatory cases, and the entire approach here is to have a multi-pronged comprehensive approach to what gave rise to the financial crisis.


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[Assistant] Well I don't know who you spoke with because we have looked hard at the very types of matters that you're talking about.


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[Assistant] Well Martin, if you look at what we and the U.S. Attorney community did, I think you have to take a step back.


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[Assistant] Over the last couple of years, we have convicted Raj Rajaratnam. You'll say that's an insider trading case, but it's clearly going after Wall Street.


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, I think that the financial crisis, Martin, is multifaceted. And what we've had is a multi-pronged, multifaceted response. And it's simply a fiction to say that where crimes were committed, we didn't pursue the cases. And that's why, where crimes were committed, you have more people in jail today for securities fraud,


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[Assistant] Bank fraud and the like than ever before. But no Wall Street executives? No Wall Street executives.


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[Assistant] Well look, I can't talk in general about non-descript anonymous whistleblowers, but here's what I can tell you. Whenever I personally have been in any public setting, I've invited whistleblowers to come forward.


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[Assistant] I don't accept for one moment that you all are finding whistleblowers that we're not. What I do, let me continue. What I do believe is that when we speak to the whistleblowers, we have to make a determination whether what they say is really a criminal case.


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[Assistant] The jobs of tens of thousands of employees can literally be at stake.


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[Assistant] These are the kinds of considerations in white collar cases that literally keep me up at night.


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[Assistant] Well, I think I am pursuing justice and I think the entire responsibility of the department is to pursue justice. But in any given case, I think I and prosecutors around the country being responsible should speak to regulators, should speak to experts. Because if I bring a case against Institution A,


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[Assistant] And as a result of bringing that case, there's some huge economic effect. If it creates a ripple effect so that suddenly counterparties and other financial institutions or other companies that had nothing to do with this are affected badly, it's a factor we need to know and understand.


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[Assistant] You think this thing still works? Hmph. Check the muzzle, Napoleon.


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[Assistant] They fill them with cement so they're safe.


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[Assistant] No, I can't figure her out. I mean, she really lays it on the line, but at the same time, she doesn't show you anything that counts.


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[Assistant] Maybe. Nobody's that cold. I'm definitely starting to think we might need


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know. Really, I don't. I just think less.


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[Assistant] Hey, thought you'd be asleep by now. You okay?


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[Assistant] To order, visit shoppbs.org or call 1-800-PLAY-PBS.


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[Assistant] I got the guard's phone number. Call him and keep him busy.


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[Assistant] No baboso. I can get us the access passes.


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[Assistant] I know my way. I just need you to keep us safe from these creatures.


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[Assistant] Good. Then I know you'll do exactly as I say. And as long as you do that, I won't shoot her.


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[Assistant] I don't wanna kill you, but I will do it in a heartbeat if I have to, comprende?


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[Assistant] What I have to lose is too important. Let's go. We're getting out of here.


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[Assistant] Down there. We can ride this contraption to get us down to that exit. We're gonna ride it?


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[Assistant] That lever. It looks like it would set the tracks to stop at that exit.


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[Assistant] You, come with me. We're gonna get some cars on the track.


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[Assistant] Stand by the lever. You're gonna help me get the cars on the track.


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[Assistant] Come on, the sooner we get to the coast, the sooner this will all be over.


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[Assistant] H121, eh? I haven't seen one of these in a while.


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[Assistant] Grave stones are for the people who died beside him. The skulls are for the people who died because of him. Tell her, where you gonna put Decaf's tombstone? You running out of room.


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[Assistant] Don't be fooled. You're in the company of killers. You're no safer than you are in the jungle.


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[Assistant] You need further proof that these men are crazy? This is what they do. They hurt people, and then they joke about it.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much longer those embryos will last. We need to meet my contact at the boat.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we know where it is. Go get it!


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[Assistant] What about that thing there? Maybe you have to prime it before turning it on, like an oil pump or something.


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[Assistant] They're real. My client had someone on the inside, a man named Nedry. He didn't show, so they sent me to find the embryos on the backup plan.


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[Assistant] They can stop the search. He's dino food.


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[Assistant] He's not keeping me anywhere. But I don't wanna be any closer to you than I have to.


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[Assistant] We're fine. Hey. About before, the hostage thing? I'm sorry. I was only trying to protect myself. Me and the mercs, we worked it out.


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[Assistant] But I respect his ability. If anyone can do this, he can.


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[Assistant] What is that? It smells like the jungle. Only more rot.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Come with me, Jess. Try not to look, okay?


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[Assistant] This is not the time for grieving. We have to move.


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[Assistant] Okay, good. That's something. Let me get my bearings, and we'll figure out how to get there.


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[Assistant] This is my first time back on the island in nearly 12 years. Engine has changed it so much.


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[Assistant] But the homes were slums and the medicine was extra hour, half used or contaminated. We had schools but no teachers. The island is so different now. I know the island. It's part of me. But...


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[Assistant] When Injun came to the island, important men from Costa Rica came and asked my father to go back with them.


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[Assistant] I have a good idea. It's a difficult hike. Do you feel rested?


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[Assistant] What will your bosses think when they learn that you tried to murder us?


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[Assistant] Guys? Not me, Joey. Not my daughter.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we're going to talk a lot about guys that lose their jobs today. And I think I did this last year, but I'll do it again this year. I try to do it every year. Uh, this is real life for them. We sometimes forget, we look at it as a game because ultimately it is a game. It's football, but it's real life for the guys that will get pink slips today.


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[Assistant] It is a very, very traumatic day for many of them that have gone through this two and three times that realize this is the end of the road and their lifelong dream comes to an end. So for all of those guys who are clearly talented enough to be here,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that we'll lose their jobs today and transition into another, uh, profession. Uh, everything we say today, take in the vein of it as our job and we look at it as a game and we know what's not for you guys and Godspeed to all of you. I hope you all find your happy place wherever that is, but, uhm, it's life and death for these guys.


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[Assistant] He kicks balls, doesn't catch balls, but it's Diop. Lot to get into today. Pause, exactly. Yeaah, there it is. Um, we're nine days away, guys, from Happy New Year. That's crazy. Nine days away from the opening game, which is, of course, the Lions at the Chiefs. Got a lot of interest in that one.


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[Assistant] I've got both quarterbacks in a Superflex league. Oh wow. So I'm very excited about that. I like the Lions this year. I know that, you know, the Browns were in a similar place a couple of years ago and they went the wrong way. Yea, they the new Browns. The old and the new Browns. We'll see.


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[Assistant] So we're nine days away, so we're getting close finally. Uhm, also,


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski is number two on that list according to one odds maker, if you believe in that kind of stuff. Uhm, so we'll talk about all of that, but we absolutely have to start with the kicker. First, our first hello of the day to Mikey McNuggets behind the glass. Hi Mike.


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[Assistant] Brown's got their guy. Well, did they get their guy? That's our question. They realized what I think everybody realized, what we said after the second preseason game, Cade York's not the guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I gotta fall on my sword first. After the draft last year, I said that this was the pick of the draft. I loved it because it was an area of great need, and I, like the Browns, recognized him as a guy that could kick the football through the uprights. I was wrong. I was colossally wrong. Uhm,


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[Assistant] And I'm not, I'm still not convinced he's not gonna be a kicker in the NFL. I'm with you.


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[Assistant] It was obvious to me that the fan worm had turned and he was, every kick that was closed, he would get booed. Anytime he misses a kick, he'd get booed and he's clearly affected by that.


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[Assistant] So undrafted kickers are actually performing better than, I wonder if that's pressure that the drafted kickers feel. Look, if you can't handle pressure, you're in the wrong.


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[Assistant] He even went to the owner's meetings, which I thought was a brilliant move on his part. He got a ton of money. He didn't get what was rumored to be his asking price.


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[Assistant] If our D-hop lines up for a game winning field goal against Cincinnati and misses a chippy, we're back in the market. And that is the danger of this rotating kicker thing. It's fine in fantasy football, not in reality football. You need a kicker.


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[Assistant] Right, but now he's had, in the case of Bell, he's had a body of work to show what he can do.


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[Assistant] For me, I mean, I said this was Schwartz, early last year. Like, okay, this guy was a miss. Why are we compounding the mistake by keeping him? Every day that guy's on the roster, you're compounding the mistake because you're keeping off the roster someone that could actually


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[Assistant] Robert Aguayo. Where did the Browns take Zane Gonzalez?


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[Assistant] So I had a special, a former special teams coach tell me that what's intoxicating with this kid is the leg.


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[Assistant] Okay, the ability is there. It'd be like a golfer who can drive at 360 but he can't keep it in the fairway. You can figure that out and I wanted to make one point on this.


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[Assistant] Cade York's rookie year for all of the musing and all of the darts that he took was statistically better than Phil Dawson's rookie season.


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[Assistant] So uhm, the same special teams coach made a point that I hadn't thought of before. We've talked about how difficult it is to kick in Cleveland. Said consider this.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh is also one of the other most, most difficult venues to kick in. He said no matter what, even now with the nine and eight schedule, he says if you play nine home games.


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[Assistant] You're kicking 10 of your 17 games are in what is widely regarded to be the two most difficult venues to kick the football in. What he said aligns with what Phil Dawson told you.


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[Assistant] If you're playing in a dome and you're playing in a conference or a division that another team has a dome, you could play 10, 12 games in a controlled environment. You're going to compare his numbers? He said it would be like comparing numbers from a U.S. Open


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[Assistant] To the British Open, where the British Open is notorious for winds and elements and rain.


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[Assistant] Guys are all over the place. But take an average event in the US where the wind and the elements are a factor and the scores are going to be dramatically better. So we do have to temper our expectations.


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[Assistant] Also, by the way, kicking off, uh, kickstand.


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[Assistant] I agree with that. I think he'll be the first guy off the shelf when somebody gets hurt.


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[Assistant] We do not wish upon him. No, we don't wish that upon him.


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[Assistant] Anthony, how's your leg burn doing? It hurts. He's a mess. And I still have a limp.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I just go on his percentage. Isn't he around an 80% make?


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[Assistant] Talk through the NFL was you just can't ignore special teams. You can't. It's a third of the game. And particularly your kicker. We don't love it, but the way the game is set up, you have to have a good kicker.


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[Assistant] Okay, so Robbie didn't tell me that I'm interested and I would have come to Cleveland. He didn't come out and say that.


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[Assistant] However, he wouldn't have replied to your message. Good point. Unless he wants to kick again. That's a fair point. And what is he trying to do? Stamp out fake news. Right. If, you know, he doesn't want it getting out there, then he's asking for 10 million dollars when he's probably sitting at home saying, I just want to kick. Right.


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[Assistant] There it is. Good. Which I like. You know what though? Gee, I'm not sure that's the case. I'm going to admit, I don't know this kicker from a hill of beans. He's never stood out to me. I knew the name. He's, he's not a guy that I'm like, oh yeah, we got to have him. But to your point on the, doesn't have the leg.


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[Assistant] McNuggets, can you pull up the stats? I looked at these yesterday. He's 15 for 30.


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[Assistant] Well hey, no, listen, we've had kickers in the last three years that couldn't get it to the goal line.


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[Assistant] And so that told me that he must have a strong leg on kickoffs.


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[Assistant] Someone made a point yesterday that was at least worth bringing up. I know that you think it's complete hogwash. The holder is a big piece to this whole thing.


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[Assistant] Someone had mentioned to me yesterday, shocking they didn't even experiment with the new holder. Like, because they don't think it's his fault.


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[Assistant] What's the kickoff, uh, touchback ratio?


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[Assistant] Uhm, just because we have a new kicker now, these kicks are still gonna be adventures. There's gonna be misses, particularly in home games late in the season. Oh yeaah. It's just part of the deal. It's part of the deal.


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[Assistant] Because how many times have we seen teams punt from the 41, they blast it into the end zone, and it's a net 21. Hell, that might as well be an interception.


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[Assistant] If they brought him back to the active roster and then cut him, are they exempt from having to pay whatever they would have had to pay if they had kept him on injured reserve?


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[Assistant] Well, look, every little bit counts, right? I mean, clearly it matters if they went out and signed Diop instead of Robbie Gold. Right.


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[Assistant] We'll find out if they keep them. You know, but I'm with you. That's like...


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[Assistant] That's at least a year. Unbelievably fast. And the fact that they put them on active, I thought...


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[Assistant] Well, that means one of two things. They're either gonna keep them, or now they can cut them and they're free of any...


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[Assistant] On the field, playing a game. Like that's a super bad look. If you cut a guy in that circumstance, the other 31 teams and all their rostered players are going to be looking like, don't go to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] But Bell was such a good special team guy. Yeaah, I think that's why Bell makes it. Yeaah, I agree with that. Uhm, let's see, Diabate.


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[Assistant] Right. But you know, Bill has claimed guys that he thought he could, you know, he had so much success with Randy Moss.


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[Assistant] But he is flamed out on some rather high picks or signings that he thought he could still get something out of and he couldn't. Didn't he sign Chad Johnson towards the end?


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[Assistant] I want to see if Nick Harris. How many are they keeping? Nick Harris is a question mark to me. As I was going through it, I'm like, ooh. Well, you got your five starters. You got Draymond Jones and Wippler.


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[Assistant] Maybe that is, well what about tight end?


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him. I wouldn't be shocked if they cut him. He can't get on the field and we don't know why. Christian Kirksey got cut yesterday.


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[Assistant] Is Mack Wilson, did Mack Wilson make the Patriots? Is he still with New England? The linebacker that was drafted the year talking.


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[Assistant] Total, between two. Yeaah, that's not enough. Need someone else. I'm concerned about linebacker and running back.


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[Assistant] Last year it was wide receiver and defensive end. Yea, wide receiver was such a panic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I meant to ask you guys. I had him on my list. Are we assuming he's a lock? I thought that he was going to make the team, but as I was really getting down to like 51, 52, 53, he was one of the guys that I had circled as maybe he's not on this team.


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[Assistant] And Bull, I think you said it, and it's a good point, it needs to be stressed. That does by no means, does that mean that's the final roster?


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[Assistant] Because there's gonna be guys that are released by other teams that catch the Brown's attention. Yes. And, you know, all these guys that are 45 to 53, none of them are exhaling right now.


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[Assistant] Jay, are they sometimes doing guys favors by releasing them before cut day, thinking that there's a better chance they'll get picked up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would like, you know, I think that's just a curiosity factor. I love watching position players pitch.


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[Assistant] I did not know that. Yeah, I was like watching them pitch too.


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[Assistant] And that's scary because I can't remember the last time Ohio State went into a season with a complete


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[Assistant] You know, it's funny that they're in top five everywhere. Everybody has them in top five, and I guess that's just, you know, kind of standard protocol now. You put the Buckeyes in the top five in the preseason, but I'm intrigued by Michigan this year. We'll talk more about that.


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[Assistant] You gotta play football. You have to play. And because he's part of a group.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of moving parts there and we saw last year that a lot of those, a lot of those teeth on the gears were clashing last year.


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[Assistant] And now they're in a new system. That's the other reason that I think we have to see them.


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[Assistant] It was shocking because you don't usually see a position coach calling out a player so publicly especially a marquee player.


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[Assistant] Some concussions are unavoidable. He does play a collision position. I know you're saying that it's not, you know, not every play. It's not linebacker D line. No, it's not. So it's not on every play, but it's still a high collision position and it's going to happen.


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[Assistant] And one, I think the slight frame, he's giving up so much size to a lot of these guys that he's hitting.


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[Assistant] That it's almost, look, it's like the immovable object in the, you know, in the unstoppable force. He's movable, he's small, he's getting hit by guys that are bigger than him.


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[Assistant] I'm with you, Jay. I am extremely concerned as it's moving forward for his career.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I understand what you're saying. He's a high-risk player, so you minimize the risk.


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[Assistant] We still saw some miscommunications in the defensive backfield against Kansas City. There was a ball drop that was, I don't know what happened on the play. There was blown coverage. That's a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Interesting. Let's hope he's ready for week one. I know Mikey had, you know,


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[Assistant] Right. You either are foreplaying him or against, and I don't think it has anything to do with who's playing on the other side. Agreed. I was surprised Andy Reid didn't go with his ones. Yea, I was too a little bit. Cause that, that violates


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[Assistant] Process of getting dressed and going through warmups and everything else and you just didn't come out on the field.


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[Assistant] So maybe this kid was so impressive in camp, the decision was made, it's time to turn the page on him.


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[Assistant] I think it was against the Patriots. Was it against the Patriots two years ago? Their last preseason game? Uh, it was against the Vikings. Last year? Two years ago. Two years ago. Last year who was it against? Did they play the Patriots in the preseason last year?


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[Assistant] Kansas City does it. I mean, well, they've got new pieces at wide receiver, but I think in general, Kansas City is a well-oiled machine. As long as Patrick Holmes is out there, things are going to work. So I don't think, you know. Yeaah, their only new piece is a rookie. They have a new wide receiver, right?


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[Assistant] I do. All in consensus. Yep. I mean, top, I, I have, I'm doing groups between six and ten. Yeah. I would like to say top five, but yeah, I would too.


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[Assistant] We've seen contain issues this preseason. Uh, are you concerned about that?


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[Assistant] Because it's happened a couple of times where guys are just...


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[Assistant] I've really thought that every single season in his pro career. I've thought this is the one where he just breaks the egg and just goes absolutely nuts. So I hope you're right.


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[Assistant] He, as, and it's, I hate saying that because he is, he has been so good and he is on a Hall of Fame track.


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[Assistant] But when you watch him, and you just look at him physically,


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[Assistant] Thought seriously about, I gotta get the Browns defense this year. Why are they so low on the rankings?


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[Assistant] Which was about where they seemed to be, like Yahoo had them, like bottom, I think they were maybe 14. Uhm, I think ESPN had them.


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[Assistant] Not in the top 10. So technically in a 10-team league, they're not even draftable. No.


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[Assistant] I have to say, the older I get, the less I care about it. I used to really care. And about the tenth round of our draft, I was like, I'm going to auto.


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[Assistant] And I've got five years from now. I'm older than Jason. So go ahead. When your kids are in, when Aaron's in high school, and you've got so much going on that it will become a less priority for you. AJ's first football game is today. Nice! What year is he in by the way? Seventh. How's his foot? Oh, he's fine.


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[Assistant] And I think that's probably accurate. You know what's funny? Both of them, both these guys, Bowles and Stefanski, are linked to Baker forever.


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[Assistant] Do you buy that? Do you guys think, because, gee, you were saying you got six games. He got six. It gets sideways, it's two and four, one and five, he gone. You know what's interesting about that list is three of


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[Assistant] I am until I see something because they were so horrendous last year. And I understand it's Sean Payton, but they'll be a surprise team for me. I don't expect them to be good.


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[Assistant] And that's what, that's what gets all of us is that level of unknown.


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[Assistant] There's two different ten and sevens. You know, there's a ten and seven that you felt you were good enough to make the playoffs, and then there's a ten and seven where, man, you lucked into two or three wins that you shouldn't have won. You guys, seven and ten last year, and when you look at the difference in this league, I'll give you three games right now that the Browns had in their midst.


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[Assistant] You can, that's what I said, that's the NFL now. But you know what you can't say?


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[Assistant] Shout out to him, man. I could have taken Cade's kicking spot. What's his position? DB, he's a cornerback. Wow!


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[Assistant] If those guys blossom after year one, two or three, they're moving out, especially if they're in division three school.


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[Assistant] I will say, Jason, you can speak to this. The caliber of player that the Browns cut this year, to me, feels better than it did in these past, and that speaks to our overall debt. Like, you're letting go of some players


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[Assistant] Good. Also, I want to plug our membership push, because when this show ends in a minute and change, we're going to, we go to overtime, we do that every day.


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[Assistant] That is nothing, crew. That is nothing. You get the overtime segments every day.


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[Assistant] And today we're discussing something that some people might find as absurd. I don't. But it's a, it's an item that is being made available to Browns fans to purchase. And our discussion is, will a lot of Browns fans pay over $500 for this piece of, not memorabilia, but merchandise?


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[Assistant] What's up guys? Hey, uh, yesterday we told you guys all throughout the show we did record breaking numbers yesterday, Jay.


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[Assistant] Shout out to you guys. Over a thousand viewers in the chat already. Four minutes into the show. We did six minutes yesterday. That was the record. Four minutes this morning. You guys are out.


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[Assistant] The best, undisputed, and as good as the Browns are, as good as we may think we are, the reality is you guys, the fans, are the real go to this operation. So we thank you guys for tuning in. No doubt. And with that, let's get to DHOP.


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[Assistant] And real quick, to context, the tweet we put out was, if, if Robbie Gould wants 10 million, Adam the Bull says, pay it, he's worth it.


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[Assistant] Great transition, Jason. Uh, we're gonna talk about D Hop and what he could bring to the Browns in one sec. We're going to do a little out of order here, but I decided


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[Assistant] We've played What's More Likely a few times. I have a little What's More Likely with Katie York's future here. Do you guys want to play before we talk about D-hop and the rest of the Browns roster moves? Sure. This fits right in with where we're at. Yep.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, Steve take the first one. What is more likely to happen?


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[Assistant] Alright, next one. What's more likely to happen? Cade York never attempts another field goal in a regular season NFL game. Or Cade York becomes the sixth kicker to ever make the Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] Last one here, what's more likely, Cade York makes an all-pro team at some point in his career, or Nick Chubb breaks a single season rushing record before he retires? Definitely Nick Chubb. Yea, that's Chubb.


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[Assistant] Such a single, single Russian record. Is that, is that? Browns, Dolphins, whatever team he's on. Doesn't matter. Oh yeaah, yeaah.


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[Assistant] The uh, the top five, Dickerson, Adrian Peterson in 2012, he had 2097, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, and then Derrick Henry a few years ago in 2020.


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[Assistant] I mean, he kicked, he only kicked off 19 times last season. 17 won for touchback, so.


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[Assistant] Before we move on, Jay, can I ask you guys one last question and then we'll talk about some of the other, uh, positions on cut day. Was the make against Carolina worth a fourth round pick? Not to have Baker have bragging rights over there.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. We have two super chats. I got to get to the first comes from buff gaming.


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[Assistant] Uh, two things you don't usually put together in buffing gaming. He says stop making excuses for Kade. Not sure we did. I'm not. Who are these guys for?


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[Assistant] And the next one, which leads us right into our next topic of Austin Watkins Jr. Being the first major move on the Browns chopping block today comes from Halim Yousef who says,


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[Assistant] Bottom line on David Bell, he doesn't have any extraordinary attributes, so fans don't like him at receivers. Fans want flash and speed. It doesn't mean he won't be fine as a 4 or 5 receiver, but I still like Watkins more.


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[Assistant] Tommy Toki, I officially released by the way.


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[Assistant] Hey, we got some breaking news actually. According to Mary Kay Cabot, as of literally 30 seconds ago, we have some decisions that have been made.


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[Assistant] Among those who will not make the 53 man roster, you ready? Yep. Austin Watkins, Jaylen Darden, Toghiai, Felton, Isaiah Thomas, Michael Dunn, Diabate Hickman both make the 53.


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[Assistant] Is four ready to play, he's been hurt? That's why I don't believe that they're confident. I think they gotta bring another running back. They're gonna have four. They definitely can't go to war with that, just that. They're gonna have four.


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[Assistant] And I think Kenny and Drake is a legitimate possi- they need a veteran. You have two guys who have combined for 18 snaps. Outside of Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] The other two have combined 18 carries in the NFL. That's it. That's not enough.


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[Assistant] One name, that actually brings a good point, one name Mary Kay didn't mention was Jordan Elliott.


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[Assistant] Not at all. Couple other names. I clicked on Mary Kay's article. Uh, Tristan Hill was officially released. So that's another defensive tackle out of the mix, maybe paving a way for, uh, Jordan Elliott. Excuse me. And who?


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[Assistant] When it was first reported that he was being released, it was kind of a head scratcher. He'd been filling in for Betonio. He was widely kind of considered their first offensive lineman off the bench in the interior. Gets released, then it gets reported that maybe he could come back because he has four accrued seasons. Accrued seasons? Accrued seasons, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Uh, he wouldn't go to waivers, and it could be a wink wink deal. We're gonna cut you, give you some more money to come back.


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[Assistant] No. Well that, Akron Jackson, aka Zach Jackson, Jason's colleague said on the radio this morning, that is not the case. Okay, yeaah, I wouldn't expect that it would be. So are you surprised that Dunn? Yes.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay. So I misread that. That's what I was saying. So he has four accrued, accrued. I don't know why it's the hardest word in the English language. So he goes straight to free agency. He doesn't go to waivers. He's gonna go else. I think he's gone.


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[Assistant] Uh, you gotta read, Mike. I do have a read, and then we're gonna move on. We kinda combine two topics, which is perfectly fine. They flew together perfectly. But if you need a D'Abate jersey or a Ronnie Hickman jersey, you know where to find it.


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[Assistant] It's fanatics.com slash UCSS. There is no better place to get your Brown's gear, your Guardian's gear, your Cav's gear, but it's football season. So we're really talking about getting your Brown's gear at fanatics.com slash UCSS. It is the same price as you would find anywhere else online. And it also helps us on the backend. So fanatics.com slash UCSS.


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[Assistant] Back to what people care about. Denzel Ward, the Browns, and literally nothing else matters right now. I know we have Gene Smith coming on. Stay tuned for that, but no one else cares about anything right now except the Cleveland Browns. End.


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[Assistant] Bull and Jason disagree on this one, and I'll set it up in a sec, and I'll talk to them individually. But Denzel Ward's back in Concussion Protocol. He played in the final preseason game against the Chiefs, got banged up, and uh, Jason, I'll let you start here. Why was Denzel Ward in the field against Kansas City?


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[Assistant] I mean listen, you just spent all day yesterday saying, my question was dumb for asking Aditi, how much difference does a defense look? Because you can't judge.


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[Assistant] When did he say Mahomes wasn't playing? Cause I know we did a topic on- I don't think he did. He didn't. I don't think he did. And I think Bull was like, I want Watson to play as long as Mahomes plays.


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[Assistant] Another NFL trade real quick involving a kicker. The Broncos have traded for Saints. Pro Bowl kicker Will Lutz. New Orleans going with undrafted rookie Blake Grooke as their starting kicker this season.


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[Assistant] To be honest with you, as I was looking at every graphic I was making for who could potentially replace Kade York, I did not see Will Lutz in any kicker battles. To be completely honest, like his name was, there was the Carolina battle, there was the Arizona battle, the San Francisco battle, Chargers.


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[Assistant] Through six fast reads, as always. Tonight, four o'clock, behind the glass, myself, Anthony Earle, talking about all the latest cuts around the league. Whatever the Browns do and officially finalize their moves, we'll break that down, looking who else was cut around the league. See if anyone might peak the Browns' interest and move forward, and that will launch today at four o'clock.


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[Assistant] And next up in our 32 and 32 series, Jay, is number seven, Dalvin Tomlinson. Bull, you've been giving us your list as we coincide here. Where'd you have Dalvin Tomlinson on your 32 and 32 list?


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[Assistant] And then Bruce Smith. That's not the most, like TJ Watt has 77 and a half. He's not on this list. I was just putting some notable names. Let's not, let's not act like TJ Watt ain't the only one. I'm just putting some notable names up there. Isn't it funny?


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[Assistant] Turnovers do count as points in most of those systems. If you look at the guys in the Brown secondary, outside of Thornhill, no one really has a track record of a high interception rate. And maybe that could be the difference between a secondary that's as talented as theirs is.


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[Assistant] Say that for the very end, because Jay, you've been here to talk about it, but real quick, you did send us something this morning that I think is worth talking about for 10 minutes here before we wrap up the show.


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[Assistant] But the Browns? The Dolphins too, cause two of them. Yeah, he's an expat.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay just updated her initial 53 man roster with a couple more moves, a couple more locks. Matt Adams, the linebacker, on the 53.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, okay, that's his name. He was signed this off-season as a special teams ace. D'Anthony Bell also making it alongside Hickman so they get five safeties, which is pretty cool.


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[Assistant] And Mike Ford Jr. also, I don't think he was really up in the air as a potential cut guy, but he has also made the initial 53 man roster according to Mary Kay. Her little commentary, an absolute no-brainer for the team, primarily, primarily for his special team's ability.


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[Assistant] That kinda leaves Elliot as the only guy in question.


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[Assistant] Who Mary Kay's reporter who have been on the block that have made the 53.


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[Assistant] Diabate, Hickman, Adams, Bell, and Mike Ford Jr.


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[Assistant] And that still leaves the Hearst Elliot. I think Hearst would get the edge if they do cut one, but who knows, maybe they go with five to keep them all. Uh, but Elliot is still the guy we are waiting to find out. The guys who have been released according to Mary Kay.


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[Assistant] Watkins, Jaylen Darden, Isaiah Thomas, Kellen Mond, Tommy Toghia, Cade York, Tristan Hill, Demetrius Felton, and Michael Dunn.


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[Assistant] DB, he's a cornerback. Wow! Cornerback? Corner, like defensive.


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[Assistant] I didn't feel like, I think maybe Avon Lake missed some of the worst of it. I think somehow maybe going out over the lake and back, I don't know, because it was bad.


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[Assistant] So the pictures, I saw this, I didn't see him last night, I saw him this morning. Crazy.


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[Assistant] All these guys to get to the level that they are, I think they're top 10. Whether they are or not, they always think they're in the top 10 or top 5 even of what they do. But I also think that Dashawn needs some motivation for it. He's seeking motivation for himself. We've talked about that before with guys who play at a high level and will just create something if they have to in order to motivate themselves.


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[Assistant] And I think he's looking at this. So I think can both be true because I think he does feel like he's top 10. But I also do believe him when he says he's got something to prove because he does. He was trash for those six weeks. And that's all we have to go on over the last two years.


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[Assistant] So I do think in his head he feels like he's got something to prove, and he does. He does have to come out and prove that he is that guy again. So I think both can be true. I think he absolutely in his heart feels like he's still that guy, but he's also smart enough to know that he's got approval.


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[Assistant] I think, but I really soured on Josh last year a little bit. This is a big year for him. I mean, obviously we haven't spent a lot of time talking about it. This is a big year in Buffalo and Josh Allen. But, but Deshaun, I mean if Deshaun comes out and plays like he did in Houston in 2020, I'll put him in the top five easy with no hesitation whatsoever. And the Browns are going to go on a deep run.


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[Assistant] This, I am kind of in the nothing camp. Now, it's, if he throws two interceptions Saturday, I know it's, it's like Kate Newark missing a couple of kicks. It's giving me panic.


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[Assistant] On the flip side, if he engineers two touchdown drives, I'm not gonna get overly excited about it. I feel like it can only be, I hate to say it, but it can only be negative that come out of it. You know what I mean? I don't know that he's gonna do, if he, if he engineers two touchdown drives, everyone's gonna feel good about it. And they should. But I don't know that anyone


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[Assistant] You know, I just don't know that anything really can come of Saturday that makes you think


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[Assistant] Off the chart. And I kind of feel the same way about Deshaun as I do with Kade York right now.


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[Assistant] A win in Watson playing poorly because there's 16 more games to go. And a lot of guys the first week, we've talked about it before with rough pre- or with minimal time in the pre-seasons, a lot of guys don't look their best in week one. I think we would give them a pass.


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[Assistant] Say it's week one, long layoff, all that stuff still applies. Hey, they won the game. That's all that matters. They found a way. They found a way to win the game. That's what good teams do. They find a way to win the game. I think you would take that over him playing well and losing. It's a tough one, huh? Because you still got 16 to go. You got 16. Terrible question.


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[Assistant] They really traded 2. They didn't trade 3. They swapped 12 for 3. That's a good point. So it's 2 first drawn picks. It's not 3. So right there, it's a bad comparison. I agree with everything else you said. It's the off field stuff, but here's another interesting component of this.


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[Assistant] There were three other teams willing to make the same big deal that Browns made with Houston. Is there anyone else in the league that would have traded?


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[Assistant] Two through 53 is the best in the NFL. No doubt. They are one of the best run organizations in football. They have unbelievable talent on both sides of the ball and they've been able to win in spite of a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yes. And that is what will really save them on this. If Purdy develops and is okay, that's what's gonna bail them out.


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[Assistant] Because, because. You missed a key component in that championship. Go ahead. Somebody came back.


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[Assistant] Very close. My anniversary is the Kevin Love anniversary. Look at that, we got that in common.


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[Assistant] The, the, the, the interesting part about that, and I don't want to spend a ton of time on the trail and street, but something that kind of struck me this morning when I was driving in is like,


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[Assistant] I think they looked at that and thought, this is our last chance. We don't like Jimmy G. We're at 12. We can't get one of the top guys and we're really good. This is our last chance.


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[Assistant] Now, if I'm a Tampa or New Orleans or one of these teams. Tennessee. Tennessee. I would absolutely.


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[Assistant] Tampa would be perfect. I'm calling San Francisco, I'm calling San Francisco and saying, I'll give you a fifth, I'll give you a fourth, whatever. Right. You're buying a guy for pennies on the dollar. I think I said that on the show months ago. I don't know. We have enough data to say that he's a bust. It hasn't gone well, but we don't have enough data to say that he's a bust.


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[Assistant] The Niners? The Niners? I do. Yeaah, I do too. I think the Niners topped about, I think quarterback is a separator with those teams. Jalen Hurts obviously is better than anything San Francisco has.


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[Assistant] One other thing where, as we're talking about trail ants and the Niners, where I think they deserve a little bit of credit, is to identify a mistake and move on from it, rather than trying to keep over, and we've talked about that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and so for, I mean, they missed badly, it looks like, on the pick, but to have the courage to move on as quickly as they did, I mean, partly because they obviously believe in Brock Kurdy, but to identify the mistake and say, nope, we're not going there, we're going to cut our losses and go here.


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[Assistant] That takes courage, man. Like, they've got, they've had guts twice now. Yeaah. We'll, we'll see if it alternates.


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[Assistant] Well, you talk about Brown's gear, it reminded me, my wife was at Marshall's yesterday and she said they've got Baker jerseys for like 10 bucks. Baker Brown's jerseys. They're still available? And they get, and she said they had Cooper Cowboys jerseys. I said, well, she didn't know the number. I said it had to be Amari. It has to be like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, and so they had a Mari Cooper Cowboys jerseys there and they had Baker jerseys for like 10, 12 bucks. I almost bought you one. I almost bought you one.


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[Assistant] I have no idea. The only people buying those are the master bakers.


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[Assistant] I shouldn't say this because I'm just gonna piss people off for absolutely no reason, but I'll say it. I think there comes an age where you gotta stop wearing another man's jersey.


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[Assistant] You're back at Dillard's tomorrow.


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[Assistant] I actually, I actually think the Browns have enough talent in the secondary to withstand. I think it's a bigger deal for Grant Delbert. This is a big, big year for Grant Delbert. Yea, absolutely.


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[Assistant] I mean TJ Watt really messed up the Steelers last year because they don't have an elite quarterback.


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[Assistant] This one is goofier than- I like the other question. This one's goofy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hadn't thought about it, but I guess I agree. I think I agree.


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[Assistant] No, 4 is insane. 4 is totally insane. 10 probably is close. I think I'd have him a few notches lower. It's a guard. I guess, let me start here.


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[Assistant] I love Joel. I think he's, he's a pillar in the locker room. He goes about his business the right way. He's a professional. He's not a guy you have to worry about what's he doing when he's out of the facility. He keeps his mouth shut. He keeps his head down and he does his job. Like those are the types of guys you need on the offensive line.


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[Assistant] I do believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame. He may have a little bit of an uphill battle because of the position he plays, which is why I'd have a little bit lower on the list. It's hard for guards. They're more anonymous than probably any other position.


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[Assistant] And he's been terrific throughout his career, but he's 31. He's almost going to be 32 years old. And as we talk about the cliff for running backs, I just wonder where the cliff is for guards. And if he goes down, we've talked about on the show multiple times, I think there's enough depth on this line. Are they going to be worse without him? Yes, of course they are. But I do think that they have enough talent on this offensive line that they would be okay.


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[Assistant] I-I can't put a guard at four. I-I mean...


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[Assistant] To Sean, Nick, Miles, Amari, right there. I put those four ahead of him.


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[Assistant] I have Cooper 3 and I have Chubb 5. I think that's crazy. If you're putting a left guard over Nick Chubb on the most important players this year, I think that's nuts. But it pretends probably where he should be, maybe 12, 13. You're splitting hairs at that point. I think


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[Assistant] I hope he can finish his career here. You know, we've talked about it before. I don't know how long they can keep paying these guys what they're paying them. Although they keep finding ways to find more cap space.


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[Assistant] But I'm telling you, show me another team in the NFL that's paying its guards $15 million and its quarterback $50 million. It doesn't happen. It doesn't exist. And that's why I think it may come down to a point where they have to choose between Wyatt Teller and Joel Pletonio at that guard spot.


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[Assistant] And obviously you would say Betonio 10 times out of 10. Why it's a lot younger. We'll see if he stays healthy this year. He's been a rock. Absolutely. He's been a rock.


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[Assistant] And he's been, he's been such a steady force amid all the chaos, amid all the dysfunction and all the toxicity. He's been one of those few guys that you can count on that you know he's always going to do his job. He's always going to be in the right place. There's value in that. That's why I would have him as high for a guard. Who would ever put a guard in the top 10, 15?


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[Assistant] It's because of how good he is, but there's a limit to how high I feel.


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[Assistant] I hope he makes it to Canton. I really do. I hope he's, he gets a bust next to Joe because he's earned it. He deserves it. Has he scored a touchdown in his career? Yes or no?


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[Assistant] Well, that's a crazy question, so I would say yes. No, yes not. I was messing with you.


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[Assistant] The taintedness of it, I thought making it, but it made it worse. It exacerbated the taint.


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[Assistant] If you can have two guards making 15-16 million and a quarterback making 40-50 million, I don't know another team in the league that has that.


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[Assistant] What did you think about how they portrayed Patrick in just the whole series? What stood out as someone who's around him all the time? What jumped out to you about it?


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[Assistant] I want, I want Earl, I want Earl to weigh in, ask him what he'd rather do. Does Sean play lousy?


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb's career high is 12. Well, it doesn't say rushing touchdowns. No, it is rushing.


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[Assistant] Next, if you add in receiving touchdowns, his career high is 13. Not 12, 13. So I will still take Deshaun in 45.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would say a Mario 13. A Mario Cooper. This is, this is, this is where the Elijah Moore type is.


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[Assistant] A few years ago I could. Probably not now. Probably not now.


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[Assistant] Real quick, real quick, Mary Kay tweeted, uh, Kevin Stefanski says Dobbs will be ahead of DTR on the quarterback depth chart. I don't think that's a surprise. I think we said that earlier. Dobbs is going to be number two no matter what. So if Kevin backs it up.


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[Assistant] No, I, you know what, I would take Nujoku because I think he's going to be.


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[Assistant] In twenty-four last year, they got way better talent this year. Yeah, I know, but I, rookie, I don't think you can, I,


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[Assistant] I'm not a big David Bell guy, but I don't think you can look at projections from his rookie year and automatically assume.


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[Assistant] With as much as teams throw the ball in the NFL, and I don't think teams are going to want to challenge. Again, I'm on record. I think Emerson's going to be a monster. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I don't think you want to test the guys on the outside. I think they're going to go inside. I like Greg Newsome for three. Greg Newsome doesn't have any in his career, right? That's why I said he's not big on the interceptions thing. Eventually that's going to change. That has to change.


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[Assistant] Uh, less than 5% for Hearst, 10% for Greg.


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[Assistant] As much as teams throw the ball in the NFL, I mean look who...


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[Assistant] You wait till he has three this year, I'm gonna dunk on all y'all. On a nine foot rim.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take Miles in five because he had four in 2020, so he's right there.


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[Assistant] Have you had the, like, throw yourself back in the chair on air where it's uncontrollable that I've seen from IG videos out of you? Have you had an instance of that on the show?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a pr- yeah, it's- and like, if you think Jakim Grant's a better returner than DPJ, then you keep him. Then you keep him. And they might keep seven receivers, cause he-


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[Assistant] I'm aware, but I don't think you keep brands returning too. It's a tough one.


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[Assistant] I mean, you have to beat, you have to beat one of Kansas City, Buffalo, or Cincinnati to get to the AFC. Two, maybe two. Well, I'm saying minimum. At least one. You have to beat one of them. That's right. Most likely. I guess we don't know that for sure.


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[Assistant] People keep reminding me of the story I wrote that all three teams could win a championship in 2024. Therefore...


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[Assistant] I think it's missed the playoffs, but I gotta die on that hill now and pick, reach the AFC Championship game.


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[Assistant] It's just so hard. It's easy to come up with a scenario where you go 9 and 8, 10 and 7 and miss the playoffs. Like it's not that hard.


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[Assistant] I'd say 33, they don't make the playoffs, and probably 10 or 15, they win the, or they make the AFC Championship.


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[Assistant] You may have to beat, you're right, you may have to beat both. Bangles, Bills, Chiefs, you may have to beat two of those. Especially if they're a wild card team. That's exactly right. Dang bro. You definitely have to beat one, you may have to beat two. And they changed that recently, right?


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[Assistant] That's it, man. I already burned mine happy anniversary to my wife. Putting up with me for 15 years. That's my final thought.


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[Assistant] Those people have got these youngsters coming into Mississippi not knowing what the situation is.


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[Assistant] We are going to see to it that law and order is maintained, uh, Mississippi style.


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[Assistant] This is your America! This is your land!


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[Assistant] I knew you had heart. You know, it's okay to give up. Ain't no shame in it.


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[Assistant] All this bummin' and all this whoopin' and stuff, man, that happen cause of anybody.


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[Assistant] Dad, the lights are shaking again


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[Assistant] You woke me up. Uh, sorry about that. Is something wrong?


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[Assistant] Mommy uses that to carve her trinkets. It's from the old world. Trinkets? Uhm, like glammers?


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[Assistant] Mommy really doesn't let anyone play with that. Trust me, I've tried.


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[Assistant] Bigby, hey, wait up. Have you seen my wife? Have you seen Beauty?


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[Assistant] Fine. Of which fable do you wish to know?


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[Assistant] Very well. Please return should you wish to ask about someone else. Or someone new.


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[Assistant] Alright, I got a hundred bucks for the first bloke that can tell me something about a girl name.


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[Assistant] Cinderella selling shoes, Rapunzel, Rose, and of course there's you. And I can't help note that you did not rhyme.


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[Assistant] Do try to stick to the rules next time.


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[Assistant] What's going on? You know, other than the


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[Assistant] I was just at the trip trap and I heard Gren telling some folks about a funeral at the Buckingham Bridge.


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[Assistant] Well, you're just going around knocking on doors?


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[Assistant] Well, I didn't call. Must have been Beauty. She's been... surprising me a lot lately.


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[Assistant] Yet, with all the sneaking around and secrets, somehow I'm still the bad guy in this. I've had to hear about it all night long from her.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Is it safe to turn my back?


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[Assistant] Centuries of marriage come with centuries of baggage.


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[Assistant] What do you mean by that? Beast! No, really, I wanna know.


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[Assistant] I gotta know one thing first. What if we did have something to say about the Crooked Man? What if we talk, and you don't get him, and all this comes back on us? We'd be risking a lot. We've seen what happens when you cross the Crooked Man, and I don't know if it's worth it.


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[Assistant] Look, we're used to a certain kind of lifestyle, okay? We couldn't just give that up.


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[Assistant] Ah, don't worry about it. Probably just a wrong number. Really.


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[Assistant] I think we're one digit off from some pizza place. Who was that?


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[Assistant] I guess he's hit hard times too. There's a lot of that going around.


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[Assistant] I can't imagine he has a lot of marketable skills.


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[Assistant] Hold on, Bigby, don't go there. Sounds like you're just going to get Beauty in trouble. And...


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[Assistant] It's the place on Tubman Street. Same block as the baker and the candlestick maker.


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[Assistant] Well, I've been delivering packages from there for a while. The thing is, it's for the crooked man.


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[Assistant] I delivered to places all over town, but never to the man himself. It never seems to be heading to the same place, but it always comes out of the butcher shop.


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[Assistant] I just wanted to provide for Beauty. Give her the kind of life she deserves.


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[Assistant] We were royalty once. We were accustomed to a certain lifestyle.


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[Assistant] All we want is to make this place feel a little bit like home.


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[Assistant] So, where are you going? If this all goes sideways, I'd like to know where it's coming from.


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[Assistant] Wait, I don't know what you're planning to do when you find the crooked man, but is there any way you could help us out? What do you mean? Well, maybe you can make this all just go away.


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[Assistant] We just, we know that the Crooked Man is dangerous. To all of Fable Town.


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[Assistant] Ooh, six rings. No other team's got that. Well, Ariana Grande was born here too, so that's another seven. I-I can't do this. Ohio, yous got any liquor? Not for you. Why are you worried, Florida?


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[Assistant] Don't you already drink at home anyway. You're right, nothing will change. If we don't do this, people will die. You have no respect for the goat. He spent two decades kicking your porpoise ass and now he's your goat?


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[Assistant] Sorry, new team. Who dis? What even is Florida? It's a lot of fun is what it is. I go there every winter. I know. Everyone hates it. Please stop. Oh, Florida doesn't like you coming neither?


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[Assistant] I gotta tell Rhode Island about this. We'll make some hand sanitizer instead, DC. Thank you, Kentucky. Was closing the bars Pence's idea? Because if so, you can keep him. Disowning him because he's gay? Real mature, Indiana. He's not gay. Let me put this into terms you can understand.


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[Assistant] There's not really a limit to what he can do. Uhm, I think he's a very good outside receiver, a very good inside receiver. You can put him in backfield.


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[Assistant] Put him in the Wildcat, I think there's really just no shortage of what you can do. And I say that just because of the skill set and because of the intelligence. Uh, so, like you mentioned with the lining him up in the backfield, hadn't done a ton of that, but just if you...


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[Assistant] Think about the person and think about the player and what he's able to handle. We just felt like it'd be something that he can do. Not to say that we will do it, uh, every game or maybe he'll be there all 50 plays in one game. You know, it's really by game plan.


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[Assistant] You are in the film, we've established that. It is a film. It is a film. It is a film.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got a new haircut, your character for the movie.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Which is very short on the sides. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And very uhm, maybe uh, parakeet-esque on the top. Yes? Correct, yeah.


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[Assistant] And, so you're saying that this is no indication that you've switched, Hawkeye has switched to Ronan, as Hawkeye did in the comics. Hawkeye became Ronan the assassin.


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[Assistant] Variety reported that uhm, you were going to be doing a Hawkeye television series on Disney+.


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[Assistant] You broke your, like both of your arms, right? Yes. Doing the movie Tag. Yes. Which is crazy that that's the movie you broke your arms on. The comedy, right? Yea, all the things that go on.


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[Assistant] Who do you call and say, bad news guys at Marvel. Hawkeye, you know those arms that Hawkeye uses? They don't work. We're gonna have to come up with another weapon.


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[Assistant] We don't have a clip because everything's very secretive, so we do not have a clip. But I was wondering, because I did ask some of the other cast members what their favorite line, the line they got to deliver in an Avengers movie, what was the favorite? Do you have anything that comes to mind?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Oh, get out of the shack and be eventful. Yeaah, yeaah. Let's do it. Yeaah, I think it was something in there, like a terrible paraphrasing, but. The promotion, uh, for this movie is obviously enormous. Yes. And so much so that this is something you posted on Instagram. Right.


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[Assistant] Well, it's better to be most interesting than worse. Did your, was your friend able to urinate? You didn't ask. You must drop a line and find out. First time you were here on this show, you talked about your first like paid acting job, which was an interesting job. Remember what that was?


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[Assistant] For the police academy thing, and yeah. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Can I get an autograph? Well I'm glad to see you're finally on the right side of the law.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching. If you liked that video, click the subscribe button. And if you didn't like it, well you hurt my feelings.


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[Assistant] Mobile homes go down in value. It's the only thing you own that you live in that goes down in value.


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[Assistant] Even if you buy dirt under it that goes up in value, more than it goes down in value, so it appears you didn't lose money, you lost money. You buy a $50,000 mobile home, in a few years it's a $10,000 mobile home. I mean cars go down in value, mobile homes go down in value, it's a car you sleep in.


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[Assistant] No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today I'm here with my bro, Big Slim 400. How you feeling, bro?


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[Assistant] I shoulda known that you were too smart to let us pull up to the place where you lay your head.


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[Assistant] See, you got that fuckin' LA lifestyle mastered. Don't let nobody pull up to where you rest your head at, huh?


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[Assistant] Time too, because that was when you had just got into it in Long Beach. That feels like ancient fucking history now.


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[Assistant] We didn't really go super deep into your backstory or where you're coming from and stuff. You were born in Compton or where you born at?


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[Assistant] Damn, world traveler at that young of an age. So, but do you remember like the traveling part or was this all when you were so young? I was so young.


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[Assistant] Was Spruce the street that you moved to? Yes. Okay. Yes. That's where you spent, that's where you took in all the scenery of LA life and learned what was going on. Was it inevitable that you were going to end up wrapped up in the streets or how did that happen?


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[Assistant] But your pops was in the Air Force, right? So was he a different sort of dude? He's an Army. In the Army. Yeaah. But was he a different type of dude?


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[Assistant] I heard a lot of people say that the key to life is to never lie.


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[Assistant] To always be upfront so that people always know that you're being real with them about whatever it is that you're saying and that really any benefit that you might feel like you're getting in the short term from lying is not really worth it.


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[Assistant] Because of the hit to your credibility that you're gonna take in that moment when people realize that you're willing to lie, whether it's to make the situation smoother, easier, to avoid an unpleasant conversation, whatever it is, that that's not really, that there is no real benefit to lying. What do you think of that?


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[Assistant] Definitely. Yeah, and it's weird to be a rapper because as a rapper, it's like you, the people just want you to give them the real shit. They want you to come out and tell them everything about what's going on in the streets, etc. But then as you as a person who grew up in this atmosphere, obviously like, what's the number one rule? You don't talk about all this shit.


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[Assistant] Like, we all know that, you know, there's a lot of people who carry guns that you never see the gun. And there's a lot of people who carry guns that that is all you see, is that you just see it on their Instagram non-stop, they don't give a fuck, they're just out here putting themselves on blast.


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[Assistant] When you look at like a young rapper coming up and you see him with a bunch of guns in their video, the first thing that pops in my head is like, we should probably talk to him when we see him. Tell him that you gotta watch out because the cops are gonna be all over him over that shit.


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[Assistant] Let me switch the conversation up for a second. I saw in one of your new videos that there's like a scene where you're in the corner store and you see Nipsey on the cover of the newspaper and that's like in your video. What was that relationship like? How'd you meet him? What was your knowledge of him?


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[Assistant] I was doing an interview with Big Caz from Rolling 60s the other day and we were having a conversation and he was talking about, cause he's old school, he's much older and he's not really like around that environment as much anymore and he was


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[Assistant] saying that when he was coming up that it was like unthinkable that Bloods and Crips would be doing songs together and everything and that it took him a while


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[Assistant] To even be able to get used to the idea of seeing two people from different sets on camera together, uhm, was that even like a consideration or was like the YG and Nipsey friendship already so strong by the time that you met him that it was just all, all love?


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[Assistant] It seems like YG went way beyond business, though, because he seems like he had a really, really ridiculously close bond with Nipsey. He's been posting them non-stop since he passed, like, you-


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[Assistant] What, what's the impact on the city been like from the Nipsey thing? Like have you seen anything like it? A lot of people talking about they've never seen any, any.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think that situation in general has made me think a lot about what


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[Assistant] I know, I think about it all the time, it's just like, Nipsey is kind of like the definition of somebody who was making amazing music for like 10 years, and yea, like, he definitely got his props, he definitely had a lot of respect and everything, but he never really, it never felt like people gave him his flowers, like, people always say that,


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[Assistant] They didn't give him his flowers while he could still smell them. And if he's looking down right now...


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[Assistant] He's probably like, holy shit, like he probably, even though he probably knew that his career and his music meant a lot to people during that time period, he probably would not have known that the morning in his past would have been as crazy as it's been, yeaah.


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[Assistant] For real. Do you think that like the overall level of animosity, or the people killing each other, the people hating each other, do you think that it has actually, in a more long term sense, since it's been a few months, do you think that that has actually gone down a little bit since Nipsey's passing, or do you feel like shit's just as wild as it's always been?


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[Assistant] Is it wild for you to see the marijuana business thing becoming a real opportunity? Whereas when you were a kid, that was just a way to catch a case if you got caught up. That was not a legal business opportunity.


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[Assistant] Yea, because I mean, for somebody like you, I feel like...


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[Assistant] You know, with the whole marijuana legalization shit, it's kind of an issue of like, who's gonna end up being the ones that actually make the money from this shit as all these new businesses are created? Is it gonna be corporations, or is it gonna be some of the people who were the people who were catching cases, or were around that environment, or at least were?


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[Assistant] Have you ever had anything that happened to you that really made you want to change your life? Because I feel like you're a person who in your younger years was probably really, really, really wild.


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[Assistant] Were you already envisioning yourself having a rap career? Yeaah. Okay.


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[Assistant] But you weren't very far along at that point, I'm guessing? Was getting shot something that made you want to get serious about the music as opposed to...


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[Assistant] That's actually crazy, cause when I met you, I didn't know him, but then since he had me pull up to the studio one night, him and Mustard, I actually got to see him record and shit.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. When, when you think about LA, do you think about who's the king at LA? Like, is that an important conversation as far as the rap shit?


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[Assistant] I've seen your most recent couple videos on YouTube. It seems like your mind's been on the booty. I'm gonna be honest with you.


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[Assistant] Sun 400 making a whole bunch of booty anthems lately.


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[Assistant] That's fire. But I feel like, you know, you being signed to YG and everything, that makes sense because he's always been like a gangster rapper who's always been really, really good at knowing the line of being able to make a hit, being able to make a sexual song, being able to make, even like right now, like that Go Loco shit, you know, he was able to find a fucking style.


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[Assistant] Is that like what you're thinking in terms of that? Like you just saw it as an opportunity? Like there's not a lot of people trying to make music for girls to dance to and shit like that, but still, gangster?


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[Assistant] How much of a thought are you in real life? Like are you living up to the music in your private life? Like are you really addicted to ass like that? Or are you a little bit more tame?


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[Assistant] Have you ever thought about, uh, getting into the business of selling pussy, per se?


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[Assistant] No, but I mean, okay, hypothetically, you know that there is a lane for that. There's girls who need management, per se. Hypothetically.


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[Assistant] In another life, if you weren't a signed rapper and everything, could you imagine yourself living that lifestyle of actually having a stable of girls and actually being able to like, just put them to work on a daily basis? Like, do you feel like that, you have the personality type for that?


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[Assistant] I mean I could imagine, cause these days like the hot ass Instagram girls are basically like rappers. I could easily imagine creating like a label. This is how it's gonna be some day. And then you sign a bunch of Instagram models slash pornstars slash whatever and then you just monetize all kinds of different shit.


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[Assistant] That's a contract. But I mean, hey, you could really do that. And it's a new game, you know, because if it comes to signing rappers, well, that's the whole problem is that it's very competitive. There's a lot of labels trying to sign rappers. These girls...


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[Assistant] Pimpin' might be illegal, but there's a lot of ways to monetize a woman's capabilities outside of pimpin'. That's just one.


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[Assistant] That's one. If she chooses to do that, cool. Whatever. That's her thing. It is what it is. You still need your percentage, but you don't know nothing about it, right? But, I mean, there's a lot of different ways that she can make money. She can host parties. She could sell shit on Instagram. She could... I know a girl who started a dick pill company.


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[Assistant] So she's out here looking hot on Instagram and then she's also saying swipe up to buy these pills that'll make your dick work better. That's a hustler.


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[Assistant] See, you're lucky as fuck because you're fucking skinny. Regardless, like you don't, you don't gotta, like you probably don't look in the mirror and you're not mad at how you look. Myself, over the years, there's been various times I looked in the mirror and I was like, oh hell no.


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[Assistant] This is not okay. You look disgusting. You gotta get it together. You gotta get in the gym. You gotta eat right.


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[Assistant] You're getting as close to the edge as possible. How'd you end up getting a Yachty feature?