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[Assistant] Other than Stephon Gilmore is the second most important guy to that defense. He has not been out there the last few weeks. That was crucial to their success. You know, number 99, Byron Cowart. He popped up a lot during the football game. You know, number 70, Adam Butler.


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[Assistant] You know, when those three are healthy, it's at least enough size to go, okay, there's something there to where maybe now Belichick can work his magic. Belichick basically played three down linemen, three linebackers, three safeties, two corners, the whole game. That's all they did. I will say this is the first line I wrote.


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[Assistant] Because it just came to me when I wrote, I bet you the 49ers game a few weeks ago helped New England to be better against the Ravens.


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[Assistant] With all the edge and the speed sweeps and things, they really struggled stopping the 49ers. I think to get the fact that they had that as a learning tool, whatever, helped in this game. They never got gashed like that in this football game. You think about it. None of those type of runs. You know, there was really nothing like that. And for the most part of the game, Ahmed,


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[Assistant] They basically did some different things with their front, as they always do, moving people around. But they played three deep, four under coverage, almost the whole game.


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[Assistant] And they were not going to be, you know, stretched vertically or horizontally with that type of the running game. They always had people on the edge and okay, there you are on the edge. We got a guy out here who's going to set the edge and now make you turn it up because we got other people pursuing the tackle there. They were really great in all aspects of that part.


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[Assistant] Well, he's not 100% yet. You could see that last night. He couldn't hit the hole as hard as Gus Edwards could. And I don't know where Dobbins was last night. I don't really understand that. Five carries, 13 yards for Dobbins. Yeaah, I was a little surprised by the lack of that. You know, I do think that, you know, there was moments where Baltimore got a little


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[Assistant] Big play happy. They were trying to make a big play in the pass game and trying to get out on the edge of the run game and make big plays that way where I wanted to go, wait, just, you just ran it up the middle for six. Run it again. Like, what are you doing?


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[Assistant] You know, so I feel like they got a little impatient in their attack as well. But I think, you know, overall, the biggest thing is, yeaah, it's a great game plan. You know, they were healthy up front.


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[Assistant] There's no Stefan Gilmore, but the biggest thing that holds Baltimore back, and this is going to go back to what you're saying with the leads and everything, is when they play a coach like Bill Belichick or Mike Vrabel or Steve Spagnolo, who's, they're outside the box thinkers, they go,


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[Assistant] The pass game's easy. I gotta figure it out. I know what they like to do in these formations and this personnel set.


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[Assistant] They run the same things every week, so I kinda know where they're gonna be, so I can take more chances in the run game and stop it that way. And to me, that's the biggest thing, holding them back. I mean, there's just no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] There's not enough in their pass game overall to scare you in a game like that where yeaah, it's a good coach and he's got something for you up front and now uh-oh, here we go and it's just, it's too much of


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[Assistant] Lamarr kinda having to make it happen in the past game. It's just there's not enough that's delivered to him with completions and things like that.


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[Assistant] Brown, I've said this with Hollywood Brown, I mean, I'd like to see them speed sweep screens, do some more stuff like that with him.


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[Assistant] You know, you can't just line him up as a traditional wide receiver at times. You know, if somebody gets a hand on him, the play's over a lot of times. He does not play big. That is his biggest issue. It really is. And to add to this too a little bit, there's stress in that relationship.


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[Assistant] There is. I could see it. I watch film every week.


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[Assistant] You know, they're friends, Lamar, in Hollywood. And you can see that he wants to get on the ball.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's not diverse enough to stress out the really good defenses. And you know, you talked about like who's gonna be that guy on the Patriots. You know, yeaah, they're not gonna have that guy. It's not possible.


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[Assistant] You know, but when they run the ball and, you know, Jacobi Meyer's a good route runner and they tie it all together, yeaah, he can have nights like last night. You know, Demir Bird's also another guy who I like, but he wasn't even on the stat sheet last night because he had to meet Marlon Humphrey. And Marlon Humphrey,


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[Assistant] Is like, he's on the version of Jalen Ramsey and Stephon Gilmore. You take your pick who's the three best corners in football. It's one of those three.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeaah, I don't know if that's gonna happen, but concerning for the Ravens, certainly.


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[Assistant] Man, so Jim Brown, I guess, was not there anymore. He was already gone.


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[Assistant] That is some serious duo at running back for the Cleveland Browns. Really, Kareem Hunt was the star of the day. He was.


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[Assistant] I know Chubb is gonna have the big play, you know, the big play at the end of the football game, the 59 yard run that got him over 100. And don't get me wrong, he's phenomenal. He really is. But man, they just don't lose anything with those two guys on the field.


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[Assistant] You know, Chubb, I do think is the more talented one. I do, when they're both hitting on all cylinders. But man, Kareem Hunt...


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[Assistant] You know, Chubb, they both have a similarity of, we can run through arm tackles, we can run you over, but man, if we see space, we can turn the corner and take it to the house too. And Chubb has another gear that Kareem Hunt does not.


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[Assistant] Impressive. And I really give Kevin Stefanski a lot of credit for the fact that how patient he stays with it. You know, they're playing to the strength of their football team.


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[Assistant] Their defense is not exactly great. The running game helps that aspect out as well. So it's a great start for Cleveland. I mean, come on. When's the last time we talked about the Browns being 6-3?


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know if he's the cockiest, but he's one of the cockiest kickers I've ever had. I like to call it confident. I want my kicker cocky. Definitely. I do. The game's on the line. You need to be able to, like, go out there and say, hey, screw all you, I'm gonna kick this ball. Call as many timeouts as you want. I mean, Prater's just got that way about him. He really does. Phenomenal. And awesome dude, too.


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[Assistant] I was glad to see him knock it down. Cause he hasn't had his best year this year. This has probably been the most down year he's had.


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[Assistant] I mean, they played a certain way to get a 24-3 lead. Yes. It looked like they played a lot of man-coverages and made Alex Smith have to make throws in the tight windows. And they went, alright, it's 24-3, guys. Hey, Alex Smith is trying to win the Comeback Player of the Year. Let's start getting into Prevent and let him look a little bit better.


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[Assistant] I don't even know, he's definitely creeping into one of the best kickers of this little generation here. I think so, yeaah. I mean obviously Justin Tuck's the champ.


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[Assistant] Yeah. In Baltimore. But man, Prater and Goskowski after that have had some careers. Big kicks. And Robbie Gold, I mean, I don't know. But yeah, Prater is amazing. Prater is one of those guys, I always say, when he kicked the ball, him and Rob Baronis.


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[Assistant] You know, RIP Rob Barones down in Tennessee. But they used to kick the ball in practice and I'd turn around because you'd be like, it'd startle you at times with how they could crush it. And, for your Lions!


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[Assistant] Cause I, I give credit where DeAndre Swift. Yeah. What? I love watching him now. What? I love watching him. I didn't see that guy at Georgia. The guy I saw yesterday that ran up the middle a few times and ran people over. Like I literally went, I went, was that Adrian Peterson?


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[Assistant] What? That was Swift? You know, it just, it's like he's changed his attitude in which he runs by now in the NFL. You know, again, I don't know if that's coaching or just what he realized he had to do or whatever, but uhm, he's proving that I was wrong with my running back rankings for sure as far as the draft is concerned.


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[Assistant] Absolutely not. No, no. Trevor Lawrence is still going to be the number one pick. That doesn't mean Justin Fields still can't be an awesome top 5, top 10 quarterback and have an awesome career. There's a lot I like about Fields. I mean, there is. You know, it's, it's, and again, they're talented at Ohio State and they're simplistic in what they ask their quarterbacks to do offensively.


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[Assistant] To where it might not be quite the same as a Trevor Lawrence or other quarterbacks we've seen come out in the draft, but man, big arm.


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[Assistant] Hangs in the pocket, like fearless there that way, uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Of course we know Fields can run the football. It's pretty damn special too, and how he can run the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, the throwing is real good. I'm not gonna say I'm blown away by it. And I gotta study it a little bit more too, but, you know, he's got a little bit of a...


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[Assistant] Well, uh, yeaah, I might. I don't know that yet. You know me. I like to watch film and study it. And when we get in the draft, I'll give you, you know, real answers here. But I would think the kid from B.U.I.U. is gonna challenge.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've caught the kid on BYU. What the hell is his name? I just call him BYU kid. Alright? Zach Wilson. I gotta get the name. Like him. I do like him. He's got it. He's a player. I mean, really athletic, quick feet.


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[Assistant] And he's really slick with the football. He's got a, he's really a really natural thrower. I mean,


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[Assistant] You know, and when I say that, listen, he's not as gonna be like, Trevor Lawrence, oh my gosh, that's a 40 yard rifle. It's not quite that way, but...


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[Assistant] It's, man does the ball spin. Oh man, he's throwing it sidearm. Oh man, he's doing this. Oh, he's flicking it off his back foot. He's a really a wheeler and a dealer.


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[Assistant] Let alone throws it and is athletic. Not as athletic as Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence, but still very athletic. You know, really quick feet too in the pocket. Uh, he was a guy that's really popped to me and I would think he's gonna be in the conversation with those three guys.


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[Assistant] I just think he's raw. I just think it's, it's, you know, and again, what I've seen on this point is I see a quarterback who's a run first guy. He doesn't really want to throw it unless the guy's open by 10 yards. And then he might throw it. So that scared me from what I've seen. Now again, I haven't studied these guys. I don't know that. I get to see a lot of these guys just because of


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[Assistant] Last year's draft and I see guys and I go, Oh, let me look at the quarterback a little as I'm watching this guy and get a feel, but I'm not really studying them. So, you know, interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I do. I feel the total number one pick, I don't think there's ever gonna be any wavering from any of the NFL community with that either. I would be shocked. This one's gonna be pretty damn...


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[Assistant] Boom, he's the number one pick. Now, let's see who fights it out to be the number two quarterback. And I think Wilson and Fields will be a conversation. We'll see where Trey Lance goes. Yeaah. There was another name I thought you guys wanted. Kyle Trask from Florida. From Florida. Yeaah, you know, I gotta watch him a little bit more. I don't have enough of a feel for him to give you an honest opinion yet.


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[Assistant] Running predictable drop back pass game. They'll be able to really stop the run game because they're going to have a good feel the pass game and the Vikings defense is not good to where it's just bad enough to where the Bears will be able to move the ball and win.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what I picked it. I think I picked it like a 20 to 16 type game. It's something like that. 20 to 17 bears.


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[Assistant] He's been out for a while. He's been out for a few weeks, for sure. You know, the way he held himself, when he got up, did you see him? He looked like he had the


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[Assistant] I mean, I have a hard time thinking if Cam Newton got hit like that, I don't think the penalty flag's gonna come out.


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[Assistant] So he's out for a little bit. But, but, second year in a row.


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[Assistant] This is why you get a good backup quarterback. Because when your team's in the Super Bowl window, you don't want it to be totally ruined because one guy got hurt. And they'll be okay with Jameis Winston. They'll make it work.


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[Assistant] I think somebody, I think that was made. I don't think somebody sold that. You're right. I think that was somebody from Tampa who had made this or configured it. I can't remember. You're right. There is some story there.


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[Assistant] And the Chargers score zero and you hit the under. I thought it was going to be like a 20 to 13 type game and it ends up, they're scoring points and I'm going, oh no, oh no, oh no, this is not good because you're just thinking too, the Chargers will get on the board at some point and make a few, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, like end of the game touchdowns, but yeah, that was the weirdest under I've ever seen with 45 nothing. Definitely. I'm excited for tonight.


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[Assistant] I know you're not. I'm not worried about that. And then, just, let's not forget, as always, all odds are provided by Points Bet Sportsbook, okay?


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[Assistant] I did not have a hard time. I'm going with the Rams to win the football game.


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[Assistant] I am. I'm gonna pick them. I just can't get behind the Patriots. I do think they'll be able to run the ball. I do think they'll be able to give Jared Goff and Sean McVay and that offense a bunch of problems to where it's not gonna be pretty or anything like that. But I think the same can be said on the other side. This Rams defense is really good.


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[Assistant] You know, they're not real big up front. A. Sean Robinson is back in the fold for them. That helps them out.


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[Assistant] You know, the lack of Patriots pass game too, I just think plays in the favor of the Rams. Like if the Patriots had a little bit more of a pass game, maybe just one weapon.


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[Assistant] I, I might be able to pick them to win the football game. But because there's really nothing there, I just don't know how they're gonna manufacture enough to overcome it. I'm gonna go Ram 16-13.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't feel even comfortable about that with the spread. Cause it could be 16-13 and really close and the Rams score a late touchdown to, you know, make it 23-13 and then you lose it. But I'm gonna go Rams 16-13 in a defensive struggle.


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[Assistant] The Rams have had a deal with two ex-New England defensive coaches already this year, and they struggled. They won against the Giants, we saw them struggle and lose against the Dolphins. That's the chess match I'm interested in. Cause McVeigh's gonna have, ooh wait, they did this to me, Bill will probably do that, can I change it up?


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[Assistant] And will Bill be ready for that change up move and all that? But either way, I'm excited for it. Okay, let's do the next one. Sorry.


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[Assistant] It's, you know, it's interesting. McCaffrey certainly adds a different wrinkle to their offense and makes them much more dangerous. I, I, I like the way the Broncos defense has played as of late though. You know, from that aspect, I look at it and go,


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[Assistant] Okay, you know, I do like that. I can't necessarily sit here and love the way Carolina's offense has looked over the last few weeks either. I mean, let's not forget, you know, that game they lost to the Minnesota Vikings, two of those touchdowns came from the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm gonna ride Denver here. Even though, like, I feel like a lot of things are saying, hey, it's in Carolina, McCaffrey's back, you know, the Broncos coming off the loss last week, but defense playing pretty well.


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[Assistant] I think Drew Locke did a lot of good things against the Chiefs the other night. You know, I think they're going to, and the weapons they have, I think that Fangio's going to be able to slow down Carolina on that offense. I'm going to go with Denver, the, the upset on the road here and that Drew Locke and Melvin Gordon and everybody just put up enough points to win this one. I'm going to go 24-20 Broncos.


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[Assistant] I'm torn in this game. I mean, it's a coin flip-ish type of game for me, the way I evaluate it. You know, I'll say this, last week, the Bears, their offense.


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[Assistant] Maybe as good as this looked all year, and I know the Lions defense is not special, but I'm just talking about the way the offense is orchestrated, the game plan, everything there.


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[Assistant] Got underneath the center more, ran the ball more, saw bootlegs and play actions, saw more variety and formations and schemes. I really liked it. I liked the way Mitchell Trubisky played. The disappointing thing with the Bears lately is their defense.


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[Assistant] That's where I just go, what, what is going on? I mean, it's a 30 to 20 lead. They let Matthew Stafford and company march down the field twice late in the game to go score a touchdown. Week before that, they stunk against the Packers.


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[Assistant] I kind of want to take the Bears, but I just can't. I think they'll find a way to mess it up as they usually do. And Deshaun Watson is playing so well. You know, it's just hard for me not to pick up with the Bears defense, not playing as well and not getting as much pressure on the quarterback. I'm going to go with the Houston Texans to win this one on the road, 23 to 20.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a lot of crap here on this football field. Definitely. There's no doubt about that. I just, I, I can't pick the Bengals to win a game. You know, the Bengals, first off, they can't run the ball to really take advantage, you know, of the, the poor, the, the worst area of the Cowboys football team, which is their run defense.


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[Assistant] So I just still can't see them manipulating or finding enough ways to move the ball consistently with Brandon Allen at quarterback and Dallas.


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[Assistant] You know, the one thing, you know, at least Andy Dalton, of course, he's better than Brandon Allen. He's still got weapons at his disposal. Bangles defense, not special. You can run the ball on Cincinnati as well.


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[Assistant] The, the Cowboys are not a great running team, but they're a good running team. And for all those reasons, I'm going to go Cowboys, 27-21. I just don't have any faith in Cincinnati's offense right now.


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[Assistant] Well, I like the Titans and because they're the better football team, that's for sure. And we've seen the Jacksonville can't find a way to win a football game right now, but I just think.


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[Assistant] You know, it's a little scary in this aspect. Jacksonville's offense has been very good. Mike Glennon, they can, they can beat you through the air or run in the football or not beat you, but at least move the ball either way. Okay. Um, but at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] You know, same thing, they can't find ways to win and their defense, I don't think has any chance of matching up against that Tennessee Titans offense right now. So because of that, I'm going Tennessee 20, uh, 34 to 24, 10 point win.


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[Assistant] Well, hopefully they're not asleep at the wheel here. I mean, I know the Dolphins aren't great, but they're good. And they've beaten some very good teams this year to where you would think they'd get their attention. And then I would think, just along with Mahomes and Reed watching film this week,


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[Assistant] Of this defense, they go, whoa, okay, this defense is real. It's, it's real. They're creative. They got talent. Okay. They can do a little everything to where that, that like increased the level of focus as the week went on too.


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[Assistant] I expect the Dolphins to be a pain in the butt for this Chiefs offense. They're a defense that is built about as good as any in football, I think, to match up.


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[Assistant] With the Kansas City Chiefs in a lot of ways. Secondary is as good as any team in football. They're good up front. They don't need to blitz a whole lot to do things like that. Uhm, but I think ultimately what it comes down to is I don't trust Tua in the Dolphins offense yet. You know Kansas City is going to make a few plays and score some points.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know about that with Tua and the Dolphins. And the Chiefs, even though it's not a great defense, it's exotic. They do a lot of different type of crap.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be tough for a rookie quarterback. And I just don't think like managing Tua with the bootlegs and the one-on-one phase and all that is gonna get it done. You're gonna have to do something else in this game. I think we see Tua throw his first interception as a pro. I'm going Chiefs 28-17.


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[Assistant] I gotta see Arizona's offense and things start to click again before I'm gonna pick them in a football game. You've been hearing me say this for the last five, six weeks, right Mike? I mean, there's issues there. It's gotten down to where everybody knows their offense is all over their stuff.


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[Assistant] I mean, I did a thing on my podcast yesterday, Pete Dimolittlelilitis will tell you, but Deandre Hopkins, I mean, the, the, the ways in which they use him are very little and the amount of routes or different routes he runs, it's, it's very little too. You can almost play areas of the field and just go, no, Deandre Hopkins will be right here.


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[Assistant] And we can just drop people there and they won't be able to throw it. They're not a great, great running football team. They're only a really good running football team when Kyler Murray starts to run. And then that makes everything else good, but that's not there either. The Giants, Patriots, you know, coaching staff.


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[Assistant] I think they're gonna be all over some of this stuff that Arizona does. Now, I don't think Arizona's defense, you know, is chop liver. They're gonna have a good day too. But I think the way the Giants are starting to run the ball and dominate the line of scrimmage and they realize how they want to play in totality as a team right now,


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[Assistant] I just think they're going to slow down Dalvin Cook enough to where, you know, the Boo legs and the play actions aren't going to, you know, hold the same water that they usually do.


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[Assistant] And I, I, listen, I think Kirk Cousins and Galvin Cook and Justin Jefferson and Thielen, they're going to make some plays. They always do. I mean, they're phenomenal as far as their big play ability.


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[Assistant] I just don't know if there'll be enough consistency. I think it might be few and far between as far as when we see big plays or anything like that. I have a hard time thinking Dalvin Cook is going to go off, you know, for over a hundred yards. I really think


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[Assistant] For the Vikings, it's gonna look a lot like their win against the Bears a few weeks ago on the offensive side of the ball. Except...


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[Assistant] They're not playing the Bears offense. They're playing Tom Brady in an offense that has a little bit of everything to offer you. Yeaah, it's not perfect, but this ain't the same Vikings defense we've seen from years past either. And that's where I just don't think they can slow it down. I'm interested to see what Tampa does on the offensive side of the ball. I'm gonna go Bucs 35-24. I think it could be a high scoring game.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I think we can see a number of big plays, but just not enough on the Vikings end to keep it close.


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[Assistant] See that, and they gotta get it going to be a factor. We know they're going to the playoffs and all that, but lately they've looked like a team that's, yeaah, gonna go to the playoffs and it ain't gonna be all that much.


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[Assistant] You know, midway through the year, we went, ooh, they're starting to look like a team that can get in the playoffs and be a Super Bowl team. What are they? I don't know. And this will be a big, you know, four weeks for the Bucs to see, for all of us to see.


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[Assistant] I got the memories of last year where, you know, the Raiders went to Indianapolis and pushed them around and beat them. That like scares me a little bit. I can't lie.


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[Assistant] But, I think there's two things that are different about that to where I'm not gonna buy into that. First off, the Forrest Buckner and the Colts defense is better than they were last year. And then, the other aspect of that is, the Raiders as of late, you know, with the offensive line, Josh Jacobs not being 100%, things like that, they have not run the ball effectively. And not been great that way. So,


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[Assistant] You know, the Raiders in general have just not played good football the last three or four weeks. I don't really know what to expect of them. We know they should have lost last week to the New York Jets.


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[Assistant] So, from that standpoint, there's areas they match up with the Colts, and then the Colts are a team that I think both of us agree, it's hard to get a feel for them.


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[Assistant] I wish the Colts would run the football more. I think they're missing out on taking some more, taking advantage of one of the strengths of their football team there. I think they do get a little pass happy from me at times. They should be able to run the ball on the Raiders.


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[Assistant] They should be able to throw the ball in the Raiders. So because of that, and the Raiders struggles in the way they've looked as of late, the Raiders play a lot of man-to-man coverage in that, to where I just think that's T.Y. Hilden, Michael Pittman Jr., some of the other weapons there. I don't know if Oakland can match, or Las Vegas, excuse me, can match up across the board there. I'm gonna go Colts one to Colts one, 24-21, Mike.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, uh, well, you've, ooh. Oh, so wait, that's a, so let me change it. Hold on. You got the push. Let's go. 24 to 20. Make a point away or add one.


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[Assistant] You know, some of the, the scheme and formula, I think that would upset the Seahawks as much as the Giants either. You know, really, I mean, I wasn't...


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[Assistant] I thought the Giants would keep it close last week. I thought Colt McCoy would make a stupid mistake because he hasn't played in a while and all of that. The Jets, like, what do you expect from the Jets this week, Mike? I mean, I don't even know where to think about where is their mental, their mentality after a week like that. I mean, we heard Adam Gase made comments of like,


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[Assistant] He had a hard time getting over it. It's probably still bothering them and being thought about in that facility. You know, I do think the Jets defense...


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[Assistant] Could slow down the Seahawks a little bit?


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[Assistant] You know, the offense, hey, Sam Donovan company, the right looks, they might be able to make a few plays in the pass game, but that's all over the place too. I don't know if I trust Sam all the time and their run game's not good enough to where I feel like they're going to take the pressure off of Sam Donovan the pass game that way. I think the Jets like hang around, but ultimately the Seahawks blow them out.


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[Assistant] Like I could see it being like a 17-10 game, and then a 24-10 game, and then, you know, maybe, maybe it goes to, you know, 27-10, and then 27-17, and then the Seahawks score again. I'm gonna go 34-17 after all that blabbering, uh, Seahawks winning the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, there's, there's no doubt. You know, I think, you know, one, we got to, they played some good defenses.


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[Assistant] You know, they were missing their running backs for a little while. Their offense is good, but it's never been like this schematical nightmare where you just go, whoa, this is the most creative thing in the world. It was just, it's a good offense. It's got a little of everything.


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[Assistant] But more or less, it relied, it relies on its Jimmy's and its Joe's more than the X's and the O's. And that's where they've hit a few, you know, dead spots. The offense has got to give them a little bit more there that way, but I hear you, I see some of those concerns with the Seahawks too. Let's go to the next one.


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[Assistant] Of course I like the Green Bay Packers. First off, I have no faith in the Lions defense. I really don't. You know, Rodgers and the offense are just, they're rolling right now. And it seems like Aaron Jones and the run game are getting back going too. So when you do that, okay, and then...


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[Assistant] You know, the Lions can be dangerous on offense. As we know, it seems to only be dangerous when their back is against the wall and like, oh, now we're down by 14 or 17 and we can do it. They don't ever seem to move the ball consistently in the competitive part of the football game. And that's to me a scary versus Aaron Rodgers in company.


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[Assistant] You know, so I can see it being back and forth for a little bit and kind of a fun game, but then I'm just going to say the Lions as always kind of hit a lull in their offense.


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[Assistant] And fall behind Rogers and company and the Packers have a good pass defense, good pass rush, good cover corners. Cause of all that and the way the Packers are rolling on offense, I'm going to go Packers 38-24 to win this game.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the Falcons are, I mean, how can you pick the Chargers to win a game? I mean,


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[Assistant] Literally. I feel like if you took the other team off the field, the Chargers would fumble the ball out of bounds and somehow lose the game and like miss a field goal and the ball will end up in their own end zone and it'll be a safety and they'll still lose. You're like, wait, nobody was on the field for the other team. We dropped the ball in our own end zone. We lost two to nothing. Like, I mean, they're, they're unbelievable. So I'm going with, uh, the Atlanta Falcons 24 to 20.


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[Assistant] I do expect the Chargers to show some pride and things like that this week.


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[Assistant] You know, and again, there is still some explosive playmakers. This is a totally different defensive scheme from what the Chargers had to play last week. Uhm, but nonetheless, the Falcons have played tough football. I'm gonna go Falcons 24-20.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the big question is, does the Jalen Hurts experiment and everything give the Eagles a schematical advantage? Is there something they're gonna gain there? I'm gonna play in like, maybe on the first drive of the game, but after that I'm gonna say no.


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[Assistant] And, and again, the Saints, you know, they got their own running quarterback. They're going to understand how to defend it and all of those types of things.


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[Assistant] Let alone, the Saints played against the Carolina Panthers and Cam Newton a lot over the years. So this is not going to be like, oh no, we don't know how to stop Jalen Hurst in the running game with the quarterback. I don't see that. The Eagles defense is good.


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[Assistant] They are. I mean, they're big up front. They could probably slow down the run game here.


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[Assistant] The one thing with Taysom Hill and the Saints too, you know, they make you defend the whole field. It's more of an aggressive passing game. There's more threat of run game with Taysom Hill at quarterback. You know, the one thing you don't have to worry about if you're the Eagles is yeah, the Drew Brees surgical five and six yard completions and all that.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know if that necessarily makes you rest any easier. I just think this is a slow beat down. That's what I'm going. I'm going Saints 30 to 13.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, there is a chance that nine and seven makes it in the NFC. It's not that crazy when you kind of look at those teams, right? That are kind of fighting for that last spot there. Washington defense is the real deal. We know that, you know, we saw that last week with what they did with the Pittsburgh Steelers, their offense. Eh.


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[Assistant] You know, the one thing I like about Alex Smith, yeaah, he's not gonna make, you know, any mistakes. He plays the game the right way for their team.


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[Assistant] You know, he's just going to be patient and kind of wait it out. And then, you know, oh, wait, there's somebody wide open. Now I'll take a chance. Okay. That's what he does. Um, but that to me wouldn't, and it doesn't look like Antonio Gibson's going to be ready. And it just, the fact that he hurt his toe and all that, that, that hurts.


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[Assistant] They, they need him. He's the best player on their offense, him and Terry McLaurin. So that, that is bothersome. And even though that Washington defense is really good.


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[Assistant] You know, this is a different animal than Pittsburgh. It's a lot more balanced offense.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to go with the 49ers here because I think they'll be able to run the ball on Washington just enough to open up some pass lanes and do that. And I, I think this is going to be a tough matchup for the Washington offense. I don't expect them to be able to move the ball a whole lot through the day. I'm going 49ers, 27-14.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean listen, this is an even football game. And the way Buffalo's playing as of late, they're every bit in the class of, of Pittsburgh. I was interested to see what this line was gonna be. Cause I thought like, okay, Buffalo, it's still Pittsburgh 11 and 1. I thought they'd maybe be favored on the road by like a point or something.


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[Assistant] But obviously Vegas sees Steelers haven't played great football lately. Buffalo has been trending upwards faster than any team in the game. Maybe. I mean, it's really, it's been very impressive. Everything about them has gotten better.


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[Assistant] The Steelers haven't had a play offense like this all year long. I, I, I can't wait to see it really. You know, the no bud, do pre thing. That's an issue in a game like this with Josh Allen. We saw the way he can bob and weave through the 49ers defense last week.


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[Assistant] You know, from that aspect. And then, you know, I'm interested to see Pittsburgh. Are they gonna change the approach? I mean, I think they got to do to agree.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much better they can get at the run game. Are they going to try to be more balanced? Are they just going to go, no, we're going to pass it, but we're just going to change up more of what we do in the pass side and be more creative and have moving parts and doing all that. I don't know which way they go.


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[Assistant] But the way they played on that side of the ball as of late, yeaah, I don't like their chances. Against a guy like McDermott, when he starts to know you're predictable and you throw, you know, four out of every five plays, that's not good. I'm going with Buffalo.


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[Assistant] I am. I don't think this is a great matchup for Pittsburgh. I think Josh Allen kind of negates the great pass rush. They got answers versus Blitz, and I don't think Pittsburgh's great cover team.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's interesting. You know, you think about that, they beat the Steelers.


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[Assistant] And then if Kansas City slipped up one of the next two weeks against the Dolphins or the Saints, we should, we could be sitting here going into week 16, 17 going, oh my gosh, the Bills have a chance to be.


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[Assistant] A first round by type of team. I think they've officially at least entered that conversation in my thought process the last two weeks for the first time all year. So, uh, I'm really, I'm intrigued by this matchup. It's going to be fun to watch and you know, great coaching, quarterbacks, a lot of good players.


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[Assistant] Wow. Well, I've gone back and forth with this one. I'm going to pick the Ravens. I am. I don't feel necessarily comfortable. I'm just going to tell you why I'm picking the Ravens. One, I don't have faith in the Browns' run defense. I know it was pretty good last week.


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[Assistant] I get that, but this is just a different animal as far as which they run. Now I don't know, maybe, maybe the, you know, ineffectiveness of the Baltimore Ravens pass game


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[Assistant] Maybe this changes this. I mean, last week, the one thing that Browns did do on the defensive side of the ball is they put five big people across. It was Olivier Vernon playing end of the scrimmage linebacker and it was, you know, Miles Garrett, two big defensive tackles in the middle and then Sheldon Richardson at the other defensive end position.


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[Assistant] But either way, Baltimore, I just feel like gonna get a week of practice. They ran the ball well last week, running the ball. They are a force.


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[Assistant] And I'm afraid that Cleveland will run the ball on Baltimore too. I mean, we've seen.


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[Assistant] Tennessee ran the ball on Baltimore and the New England Patriots have no pass game. They ran the ball on Baltimore and all of that.


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[Assistant] So that's scary from that aspect too, but I'm just going to go with gut on this one. That Baltimore rises to the challenge. The fact that they got those two corners on the outside, let them just play a little bit more to stop the Browns run game. And I think Lamar Jackson will make one or two great runs in the game to kind of put them over the edge. I'm going to go 20 to 17 Ravens.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm gonna go with the Packers to start it off. I am, uhm.


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[Assistant] Defense has been playing good. Mentioned Aaron Jones in the run game are coming along. Rodgers in the pass game are executing on all levels. I mean, they've been phenomenal lately.


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[Assistant] The Detroit defense, I have no faith in that at all. I do worry, hey, Matt Stafford, that offense, they can get going mojo wise here and there, but I just don't think they'll be able to keep pace. And I'm picking the Packers to win 38-24. I'm going to go with them to cover that spread.


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[Assistant] Do you wanna, I don't know if you wanna be with me, I mean, you don't wanna do that, you might be in the wrong if you're with me. Uhm, I'm gonna go with the- Maybe you wanna be with me, maybe you wanna be with me. You're right, you're right. So maybe, did you pick the Saints? Cause I'm gonna go with the Saints. I know they have that six and a half point spread, which is like, that means, Vegas doesn't know what to expect in the football game.


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[Assistant] And I could see Philly's defense hanging tough and doing all that. I think ultimately it's Saints defense. Jalen Hurst can't get anything going.


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[Assistant] Banking on them, making a mistake or two on the offensive side of the ball and turning the ball over to the Saints. I'm going Saints 30 to 13. I think they're gonna, they're gonna cover that six and a half.


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[Assistant] But not Arizona, the San Francisco 49ers, because they're playing in Arizona. I'm gonna go with them, I am. Uhm, I just think this is a bad matchup for the Washington football team. This is a balanced offense in San Francisco. Washington, we know that front four is special, especially when it comes to pass rush and pass defense.


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[Assistant] Run defense? You can move the ball a little bit on them. And then Shanahan's got enough in the pass game and all that. And I just think the 49ers defense is going to be trouble for Washington, especially with no Antonio Gibson. So, uh, I'm taking the 49ers, got them winning 27-14. Is it it?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I'm gonna go with the Seattle Seahawks there. I am. I just can't imagine them losing to the New York Jets after them having a disappointing loss at home last week to the New York Giants. So, are we doing it too where we can't pick them again? Like, okay, fine, the Jets are gone. No, no. You pick whoever. You pick whoever. See ya, Jets, you're losing.


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[Assistant] Hi I'm Mike Tirico and thanks for watching. Make sure to hit subscribe for the latest news and highlights from NBC Sports.


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[Assistant] I am here, I'm listening. In what situation I caught the end of it? You talking about and everybody's talking about it.


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[Assistant] What I'm saying is, that's the overstatement I should say.


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[Assistant] Whoa, okay. And we still lost the game. But, yea, but that's, you know, now you're nitpicking, pulling things apart, and just over-analyzing what goes on in the game.


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[Assistant] Paul, you keeping in shape? You doing that or you getting old and sloppy? What are you doing?


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[Assistant] They do what they have to do to win the game. And you know, people got on, you know, I heard it all.


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[Assistant] Three straight weeks, Bakers so few completions. Well, they were playing in, you know, uh, incredibly bad, uh,


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[Assistant] And every team does it, and you know, there's only a few exceptions. So they know to win the game.


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[Assistant] They're gonna, they wanna run the football, protect their defense a little, play this certain way, but they've made great decisions. When they go, you know, we gotta do more than just run the ball this week. And when they've opened it up, Bakers answer the questions. That's it. And, and I...


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[Assistant] Did a thing on CBS last week or two weeks ago or last week. The fact they run the ball, he's getting...


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[Assistant] More space to throw, and Christopher and Paul, you guys talk about all the time, it spreads out for him down the field, and he's been terrific.


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[Assistant] I mean, he couldn't throw it hard enough. And the other thing I thought, uh, who did the game? That was Monday night. Yea, that was Greece.


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[Assistant] To get him out of trouble and then still fast enough to do what he did to run for the touchdown.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yes, and let's all just remember, and everybody, which too many people are trying to treat this, oh Cleveland, we picked them to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] They are, did we think they would be where they are right now? 9 and 4? 9 and 3, could have been 10 and 3, whatever you'd be going. And, no, they're not gonna win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] So, I take it for what they are that they've made an unbelievable step forward. And it's real, what we're seeing.


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[Assistant] And I have to tell you, Kevin Stefanski, I don't know.


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[Assistant] He's really done a great job with the football team.


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[Assistant] Great report, but they're playing well, but he's put them in position to play well.


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[Assistant] We love people who put us in position to succeed.


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[Assistant] And so that even bonds you closer. She's done a great job, uh, you know, both sides of the ball.


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[Assistant] Of course the defense, I wish it could just stouten up just a little more, but it's been a great season so far for Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he moves or anything like that, even when he drops back, they are an aggressive down the field throwing team, which I love.


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[Assistant] Which really fits in perfectly with a run offense.


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[Assistant] Then when you throw it, I wanna see, you know, hammer throws. Definitely. Let it go. Let's get big plays.


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[Assistant] That's been really good too, and it's uhm, it's amazing. The Cleveland Browns are...


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[Assistant] Talked about and everything as much as the Dallas Cowboys are.


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[Assistant] They're like the Dallas Cowboys now. Everybody talks about them every week. This is the quarterback, the coach, whatever it is, good, bad, and for not being one of the big, what do you want to call it, markets in the NFL.


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[Assistant] You know, which I truly like. Oh man, I wanna turn the TV off. I just, oh my god. When people say things like that. Yes, Baker's played great.


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[Assistant] But, you know, or Josh Allen, but I gotta see it this week before I'm really convinced. Oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] Listen, he's been, oh you're too short, you can't do this, all those things his whole life. So he does have an attitude. There's no question.


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[Assistant] I don't have to talk to him or talk to any teammates. I can see the change in Baker Mayfield. Of course, in his play, the offense fits him great.


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[Assistant] But his personality on the field and how real it is on the field and I see it off the field too. And, uh, so that means he's growing up.


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[Assistant] He's really being coached right, and the team's in order.


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[Assistant] And, you know, it was unbelievable, his attitude and, you know, everything, how happy he was, and you could just tell, man, they were, they were in a great place, and they still are down in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] They really are. They are. That's a great point, Christopher. They're mature and, but that's what happened.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, how are these old guys doing? You know, they're all like, oh you gotta be the same age as the player to relate to them. Players, when you make them better...


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[Assistant] And that's what they do. Great coaches make good players.


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[Assistant] Andy Reid, Sean Payton, whatever. There's a small group that can do it. Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] Maybe not as much as him, because they don't just focus on a certain group maybe as much, but...


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[Assistant] These guys make superstars out of really good players, and a lot of them are going to the Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] Because, I'll give you real quick and don't beat this, I'm gonna talk about this weekend.


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[Assistant] Now, how many teams, give me the answer as soon as I ask this question, both of you.


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[Assistant] Let's design one that really does a lot of stuff and get down the field.


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[Assistant] Of course he enhances it by making sure there's always great talent around it. That's, we know that.


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[Assistant] Do and open it up and let him be the guy that he was in college.


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[Assistant] No, I don't know, I don't, I just, I just...


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[Assistant] Didn't say it last week or whatever. Sometimes I do two shows, you'd think I'd get these things out. But, you know, my homes, is I really watch them. And just go, I just write down and go, my god. What if he couldn't move?


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[Assistant] It just, it's, it's, it's a little not alarming, but you know, people beat their offensive line at a much higher rate than we think.


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[Assistant] And he made so many key throws in that game, it was unbelievable. And, you know, the Raiders, they're gonna beat them, they're gonna beat them. No, I think they're gonna beat them.


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[Assistant] But we did play down in Tampa in 79. They were a good team. We beat them. My first startup beat them. They were 5-0.


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[Assistant] We were on five, and of course I tore it up six to twelve for thirty-seven yards.


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[Assistant] And it was, wow, thank god that game was on grass. But I don't remember the sack.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I did it much more early in my career and, you know, all that, hindsight, we're always, like I always say, we're genius, but I just go, why didn't I stay that way?


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[Assistant] I keep him in the pocket, I can remember coaches yelling as I, and I just go, and then you know what hap, here, I know what happened. And I, I don't want to get into this, I'm sorry. But, I got, I got hurt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I didn't know at the time, and it changed me, you know, of course. But yeaah, my rookie year, we played the Los Angeles Rams.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I laugh when I see him, I go, and I say, damn, I should have kept that up. But, oh well, that's great.


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[Assistant] Listen, I owe so much to Ray Perkins. Do you think George Young would have had the courage to draft me if it was just strictly his pick? And the answer is no. So he gave in to Ray Perkins who wanted me. He let me say, well, it's a new head coach. We're in here.


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[Assistant] And there's, you know, George, nothing against him. I'm not, it's just, George liked Big Ten.


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[Assistant] SEC, he wanted the safe pick, you know, when he came to those first round guys, especially early. Or that, or if you're huge, he liked that too. So, but, yea, sorry.


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[Assistant] Ray Perkins and I, it was, he was as rough as there could be.


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[Assistant] On Sunday, we watched that Philadelphia Saints game, so let's do what they did!


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, what were they thinking? Everybody was thinking.


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[Assistant] But the thing that I did notice of one thing that really jumped out on the screen, you know, the slipping was one thing by Lamar, but he was extremely lean.


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[Assistant] Yes, I would say 10 pounds. Right. Listen, he is supposed to be wiry and the way he is right now. And he was, his footwork, his speed and all that. And you know, Christopher and Paul, look, it's over. This is who they are.


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[Assistant] You're not going to develop another Passy game. If you develop anything, how about some screens or something? I don't know. Just something, just some easy plays.


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[Assistant] No, so true. And they run, I don't know, listen, they're doing wonderfully under Greg Roman, yeaah, we can complain.


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[Assistant] Right over the top of somebody. It's like one of the best things he throws.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, the lack of the pass game, so they just gotta figure out, really just, quit worrying about it, and just keep working on your run game.


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[Assistant] Just a few really good concepts and of course you switch them up a little bit here and there every week. Not a lot of, you know, brain work, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] You know, designing pass plays and a few concepts.


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[Assistant] Literally, I believe I could do it right now. I could go to a board on an NFL team.


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[Assistant] And draw up, you know, four or five things that you must have in your offense.


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[Assistant] Must be great at them. Everybody in the league has them. I'm watching who, well, I'm watching the Arizona Cardinals and I see them on a play and I go.


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[Assistant] Income behind, pre-snap read to come back to one side if you want it, whatever. I mean, it's, uh, so, I, you know, that can be easily done. It really can. And when it does happen,


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[Assistant] Lamar's not gonna turn into a great pocket throwing quarterback. He is very capable. He can spin it. He has power in his arms.


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[Assistant] Where that running is just not, hey, you know, I like it, I'm going. You know, that. When that slows down a little bit, he'll...


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[Assistant] Now I've determined, hey, I'm gonna stand in here and he'll give a receiver maybe a second look or do whatever instead of just taking off because he knows he can take off and get it done.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I have not seen it and watched the tape of it. I did, now that you said it, I said yeah, in my mind I can see the plays during the game.


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[Assistant] Christopher, that have copied, I think, some of the concepts that we saw from the Ravens with Lamar. Definitely. You know, they don't have the running quarterback, but they're still doing all the looks, the movement, the, you know, the


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[Assistant] You know, that three tight ends set they were using was just tremendous.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it turned into a little bit simpler, I should say. But I, uh,


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[Assistant] I've read, I did it many weeks ago. I started writing down all the teams where I said, oh, they didn't run this before, they got this from Baltimore.


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[Assistant] That's what always happens, you know. That's why you gotta keep, every year you gotta create your team and who you're gonna be. And I'll let you go with this, so too, the other game on Sunday night, just watching it, Christopher,


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[Assistant] He was all over just going, I wanna see Buffalo, just keep throwing it, keep throwing it.


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[Assistant] And it does happen. The Pittsburgh defense, if you, I don't know statistically, I'm going to look at it later today.


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[Assistant] But they do start to tire out and they give up plays more and more as the game goes along. And the biggest thing is they were overrunning a little bit the Buffalo offensive line early.


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[Assistant] Runnin' over him, but you know I'm pushin' the pocket too fast. But that stopped, and then Josh Allen was gettin' the second look.


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[Assistant] No doubt. I've never really, the last thing, even m-


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[Assistant] That is true. That was a great little movement. That was a little, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] And I thought Richard Sherman, who's turned into such a figurehead for the 49ers for real, after the game just said, hey, you know, they're good. You know, he just gave them credit, didn't moan and groan about it.


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[Assistant] By looking for a gamble to try to get them back in the game. Yeaah, sure, right. But you have to do that sometimes.


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[Assistant] That's right, okay. Alright, look, I gotta run. You guys, thank you. Alright, dad. I feel good to talk to you.


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[Assistant] I don't shower that much. I don't wear deodorant that much. I only brush my teeth once a day.


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[Assistant] Chats could fall out, I mean, I don't know, could the Patriots enter? I don't know.


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[Assistant] And Tua, I played really well. He's got a lot to be proud of. But you're right. I mean, Kyler is just so special. And, you know,


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[Assistant] Like, look really good for a pro ball, all-pro running back. To where you just go, man, nobody can get that guy in space. Nobody can accelerate through a hole like that in football. Like, nobody.


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[Assistant] So, that's where it might take just a little bit of the, the luster off of Tua's performance, but I don't think it should by any stretch of the imagination. And I mean, with the Dolphins offense, let's, we're gonna start there, right? You wanna start Tua? Let's start with the Dolphins offense.


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[Assistant] Well, I, uh, I do a little. I do. It makes me feel good about what I saw yesterday. It certainly does. I mean, I'm rooting for Tua. I know people think just because I had him ranked certain places that you don't root for those guys. I'm not like that. It's purely a football assessment. You've met him. You like him. The guy Tua is, how can you not root for him? How can you not?


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[Assistant] And he's coaching a team that, I mean, he's quarterbacking a team that I really like too. So I, and I, I've known Brian Flores since I was in college. So I'm rooting for them. I'm not, like, I, no ill will at all. Do I still have questions? Yes.


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[Assistant] Did I see things yesterday that go, okay, that makes me feel better? Definitely. I mean, the first thing I would say, listen, let's just talk about the negatives. He's not real big.


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[Assistant] He hasn't made it have to make a ton of throws in the drop back pass game yet. It's been two games. This was really the first game we've had to really evaluate because last week was such a defensive showcase.


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[Assistant] Hey, it was a good start. I'm not gonna be like, you know, oh, alright, I know what he is now, let's go, let's lock it up, he's good forever, here we go, we don't have to really, you know, scrutinize him ever again. No, I would like to see more, but I think between the way he looked, the grittiness, the toughness, the understanding of the game too,


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[Assistant] And realizing what he was being asked to do and also realizing, hey, my defense is pretty good and they'll hang in there. I don't need to take chances or do anything stupid along those lines. I think that's the first thing you could take away as positives. Now, the other positives, yeah, hey, his movement, it's real.


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[Assistant] You know, and again, it's not Kyler Murray like three rockets up his ass type movement, where he can just fly.


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[Assistant] His ability to move around the pocket, you know, make some throws with his feet in awkward positions, and then his throwing on the run.


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[Assistant] Is really top notch. And I mean, to really break it down, that's all the game boiled down to. Okay? Really on their side of the ball, it was a good game plan, not only to win the game against the Cardinals, but a good game plan to


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[Assistant] Again, help their young quarterback flourish. They did three things throughout the game, really. This is, screens, few screens here and there, which is, hey, every quarterback should have a few screens. I'm not, it's nothing against him. Bootlegs.


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[Assistant] They did that, you know, they tried to stay somewhat patient with the run, but they really only wanted to run the ball so they could run bootlegs with him, because that's a safe thing for a young quarterback, and he's good at it.


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[Assistant] You know, oh wait, hey, guy in the flat, boom. Oh, here co- guy in the flat's not open, here comes the crosser, 12, 15 yards down the field, boom, hit it, oh wait, neither one's open, well maybe I'll run and get a first down, oh.


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[Assistant] Wait, I can't do any of those three? Throw it away. Did he do that in college at Alabama? Yeah, yeah, they definitely did. They did a little maybe more out of the shotgun and things like that. Where yesterday they got underneath the center a little bit. But then that, and then to me, what one of his best attributes.


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[Assistant] And this is something I saw in college that I love. His ability to throw goes and fades down the sideline.


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[Assistant] You know, that was really all they did. Screens, boots. Oh, it's one on one? Tua, throw the ball at them. Go ahead. It's Preston Williams. We like our matchup. Oh, it's Devonte Parker. We like our matchup.


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[Assistant] And he always throws the appropriate football. I think that's where I like. Oh, the guy's got a beat. He stretches him out. Oh, the guy's ahead of him. I mean, the defender's in front of the, the wide receiver. Oh, he throws a little back shoulder. Oh, it's kind of even. He can loft it up just like we saw in the touchdown pass or a few other passes to, to uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, Preston Williams on Go Balls to put it in the spot where it's like, hey, my guy should get this. He's a big receiver and we'll see where it is. So from that...


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[Assistant] And then a few of the runs we saw at the end of the game and just the playmaking ability in a big moment, I think that's what's exciting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, he's, he's very poised that way. The game is not too big for him. He's been coached at Alabama. So he's not like, you know, oh gosh, deer in the headlight syndrome and, you know, the game's moving so fast. Not at all. You know, and again, like I said, there wasn't,


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[Assistant] For when they, when it mattered the most. That, that's really where I would look at it. You know, there was a third nine on his own eight yard line at one point. He's got a curl route to his right. He's got a little pressure in his face.


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[Assistant] Patrick Peterson's got tight coverage on Devonte Parker. He knows, oh man, there's somebody coming free. I'm gonna have to throw this a little quicker than I want to before this guy comes out of the break. You know, throws a strike.


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[Assistant] Appropriate, uh, appropriate pace on the ball, all those things. You know, it was little things like that. You know, later in that drive too. And this is the drive where I believe they go on the, uh, it's 31-24, they go on the 93-yard drive. I mean, this is, it's the game right here. It's the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Cardinals are on the cusp of you feel like controlling or taking over the game. Wow, we pinned Tua, this rookie quarterback, back in his own end zone, and he makes a few plays like that. He had an unbelievable scramble on a second and four.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that was really some of the most impressive thing about what he did throughout the day, let alone the last drive of the game to set them up for the field goal.


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[Assistant] One of the first throws of the game. His first throw of that drive. Excuse me. Little corner route to Kaseki. Beautiful throw. Has two under routes. Kaseki's got man to man. Throws it out there. Let's write on the money. So.


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[Assistant] When I saw those things, that started to make me feel really good because that's going to be the pressure was highest. Hey, the bootleg game, the screen game. No, it's not going to work at this point of the game right now, right? Because you're not really running the ball. You're behind. It's late in the fourth quarter and you're going to have to make pocket plays in the pocket. And he did that. And I think that's what you can be really excited about.


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[Assistant] What I would question, right, just, and you've heard me do this before, rookie quarterbacks, why give them the one on once so much? That would be my question just to take away from the game is like, hey, Arizona, he's a young kid.


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[Assistant] You know, make them read defenses. Make them look at coverage. Instead, there was too many times where I feel like they just laid it out in a silver putter. Hey look, it's your great receiver. Man to man. I mean, hey, now you don't have to think. Just drop back. Oh, I'm gonna throw it up to him. My guy's better than yours.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't have taken that approach so much. Arizona played them like they were playing the Baltimore Ravens at times.


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[Assistant] I want to be like, Miami can't run the ball. Why are you so all in on let's stop the run so he can throw bootlegs and play actions? That would be the one thing I would question, but other than that,


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[Assistant] You know, they took the approach of, we're gonna blitz him and we're gonna pressure him and do those things. And I just think that's the wrong approach. You've heard anybody listen to my podcast and I think the numbers are starting to bear that out when Pete and you guys look things up.


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[Assistant] You know, just these rookie quarterbacks blitzing, it's, it's a six years ago thing. They've been blitzed in college, they've been blitzed in seven on seven in seventh grade. It's all, they've played too much football. They can get the ball out and throw it to the guy.


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[Assistant] It makes it easy. That's what I mean. It does. It makes it easy. It makes you pull the trigger. It just goes, wait, I don't have to think. I don't have to read this side. Let me just take the one-on-one. Oh wait, he's blitzing me. I gotta make a quick decision and throw the football. Right. You know, and, and oh, there's an easy throw there or safe throw and, and that doesn't always like help the defense out that way. But nonetheless.


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[Assistant] Really good game plan by Chan Galley and then great job by Tua getting his first win and some clutch throws and runs there.


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[Assistant] Well, he's, you know, he's, he's, he's phenomenal. I don't, I don't know what else to say, really.


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[Assistant] You know, this game was interesting. They asked so much of Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] The offense, a lot of what they are as a team, is all about Kyla Murray. It really is. I'm sorry, I don't know any other way to say it.


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[Assistant] You know, the offensive schemes, the passing schemes, their ability to run with non-Kyler Murray runs.


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[Assistant] Advantage. He's bailing them out. He's, to a degree, I would say, yes. I would say he's...


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[Assistant] Certainly, I don't want to say bailing out, maybe that's not the right phrase, but I don't sit there and watch their pass offense and go, whoa, people are open all over the place. This is fun. Kyler Murray's just wheeling and dealing. And I don't sit there and go, whoa, they're a run game. Man, did they do some stuff?


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[Assistant] And they blow people off the, off the ball. No, not at all.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of their pass plays, hey, is Kyler Murray making plays off schedule? A lot of the rushing yards, they're the number two rushing team in football.


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[Assistant] And a lot of that is because of Kyler Murray's scrambling. Now what was different about this game, and where I'll give Cliff Kingsbury a lot of credit,


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[Assistant] Is quarter, true quarterback design runs. We saw some Baltimore Ravens, Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, shotgun pulling guards in front of the quarterback. Stuff that you don't see really Arizona do a whole lot.


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[Assistant] They've been reluctant to do quarterback design runs with Murray. They might run the read option, right? Okay, guys are getting too, too antsy. He'll keep the ball around the edge, get 20 inside, right? But not like this is you're taking the ball. You're running the ball. We're gonna pull the guard and we're gonna pull our backside tight end and you're gonna...


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[Assistant] We're gonna lead you up through the hole and gash somebody. We see the Ravens do that all the time. The Ravens do it all the time, right. But this was new to them. I mean, this was like a once in a while thing. This was part of their game plan yesterday, let alone another interesting thing on the stat sheet.


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[Assistant] 25 for 70 for chase Edmonds. I've never seen them be this patient with the run game in all their lives. And Cliff Kingsbury, I give him a lot of credit because I think he realized


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[Assistant] I can't play my normal shotgun spread offense versus team. I think he realized they're too well coached. Brian Flores is good that way. And then they're too talented. We're not going to win the matchup by just throwing the ball every play. So I think he had to get into the run a little bit to save himself from pass protection.


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[Assistant] It definitely is. And I think a lot of their offense was set up by the fear of the run, not only between the tackles and things like that, but hey, when they got too pass heavy and spreading the field out and everything,


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[Assistant] There wasn't people open. And then Forrest started messing with them a little bit with these all-out pressure looks that he got McVay and Goff with last week. Hey, the strip sack fumble that gave the 7-0 lead. It's the same blitz that they gave issues to Goff with last night.


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[Assistant] Last week, it looks like they're gonna bring everybody, six guys at the line of scrimmage, only four came, two drop out, but they still couldn't block everybody because they were worried about those two guys that dropped out. They thought they were blitzing.


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[Assistant] So now they're one short off the edge. Kyler thinks he can run. He's got somebody open for the first down. But he kind of gets greedy and thinks he's gonna run outside. And, uh, I believe that was Emmanuel Agba.


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[Assistant] Strip sacks him, and then Shaq Lawson picks it up for the touchdown.


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[Assistant] You know, but I think that would be my big takeaway of the game more than anything. The patience with the run with Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] You know, and it allowed them also to have some play action passes that I don't see them do all the time, right? You know, that's not really part of their offense and I hope this is something going forward because I think realistically if they want to be a player in the NFC, it can't just be


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[Assistant] He's a really good secondary, and because of him and his skill set...


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[Assistant] He took them out of some things that they want to do. Like I was just talking about that all out blitz pressure, right? And those things they did. There's two plays that ended that. Brian Flores, there was the deep post to Christian Kirk for the touchdown, right? The 56 yard touchdown pass. That was that same blitz that caused the strip sack fumble. It was the same one.


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[Assistant] So they make it look like it's all out blitz, they're kinda trying to pressure you, they got people there for the short throw, cause you think, oh blitz, I gotta get it out, but.


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[Assistant] They did a good enough job to pick it up and Murray slid away from the one guy that was free to now, hey, there's Christian Kirk, deep post wide open Byron Jones. There's no way you can cover that route. The quarterback has that time when you're playing this type of defense. He does that. And then later in the game on the third, in the third quarter, there was like a,


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[Assistant] A third and short, and they showed that blitz again, and they called a quarterback design run. And Kyler Murray was this close for turning it up for a touchdown. He ended up getting like 15 or 20 yards.


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[Assistant] But I think when Brian Fuller saw those two plays, he was like, okay, I've had enough of that blitz. I don't know what else they got in store for me today. But if he makes another throw like that or makes one guy miss, we're gonna be deep in deep trouble. And that's the beauty of Kyler Murray. He puts so much pressure on a defense and what they can call and can't call because he's so, so dynamic.


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[Assistant] Right. I think the biggest thing that I would love to see them continue with the play action, and one thing that I think continues to arise when I watch Arizona and break them down, is their inability to throw the ball down the middle of the field. They don't throw the ball down the middle of the field. They're one of the least in all of football. You know, you've heard me say, like, McVeigh, you're gonna play Garoppolo, right?


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[Assistant] Take the middle of the field away. Make them throw outside. They never throw outside. With Kyler Murray, it's almost the exact opposite. Is that a problem?


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[Assistant] I think at some point somebody's gonna catch on to it. Because I think they're gonna realize, and there's so many plays in this game, and I can't even say the Detroit and Carolina game, which is the three losses, right? Where...


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[Assistant] You know, one, I don't think he can see down the middle of the field. I think that would be the first issue. So if there's big people that de-tackle and they put their hands up, you know, there's a number of times every game where I go, ooh, throw it, but I don't think he can really see it. You know, he can't have it all. He's got just about everything else, but he just doesn't have an extra six inches like a Tom Brady or whatever. And that's what hurts him in that aspect.


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[Assistant] But the play action passes, of course, what does that do? It brings the linebackers up a little bit.


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[Assistant] And then it gets him a lot of depth usually behind the line of scrimmage to open the field up a little bit. And now, way, I'm way far away from the pass rush, the linebackers came up a little bit, and now I'm, yeaah, I'm 5'11", but I feel good about the middle of the field and I'll throw the ball. And I think that's one reason they should continue to stay patient with the run. That makes a ton of sense.


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[Assistant] No, no, but you know, I think those are some good corners there. And I do think that Flora's had a pretty good feel for what they wanted to do in this pure drop back pass game.


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[Assistant] It just didn't lend itself to his day. But because they're paying so much attention to him and things too.


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[Assistant] You know, sorry, but that's, that's why Christian Kirk, you see him wide open on the last drive going down the middle of the field and the other touchdown and all that. You know, those are the factors of DeAndre Hopkins getting all


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[Assistant] No, you know, and again, I'm rooting for Tua. I know people think just because I ranked him a 38 or didn't love, listen, there's, I respect the human being to why I won't root against him. But let's calm down before we start calling him like the best quarterback in football or something like that. Let's just continue to evaluate. It's really a good start.


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[Assistant] And yeah, trust me, I thought about it. I think about all my rankings all the time. I'm always thinking about it because I know people are going to come at me or even give me props in either way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, if he's gonna continue to play like the way we saw here, you know, I mean, that's... he's...


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[Assistant] He is 20s? Yeaah, I think so. I think, you know, or, or, you know, maybe early to mid 20s if he continues to do what I saw yesterday. Accurate intermediate throwing, playmaking ability off schedule, managing the game the right way. Yes, all those things are awesome, definitely. Yeaah. Uhm, but, this is where I would just say everybody pump their breaks.


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[Assistant] The formula is very simple to this point as far as their offense is concerned. And...


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[Assistant] Like, after two games now, people are gonna be able to watch this a little bit and go, wait.


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[Assistant] Boots and screens, a team that can't run the ball, you're not doing that shit against us this week, alright? And then it's gonna be, let's see where he goes from there. And I think it could still be, I'm not saying it's gonna be negative, I'm just saying,


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[Assistant] Their formula will be caught on, and he's gonna have to continue to develop and take, you know, the next step in all other phases to, you know, keep people off their backs.


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[Assistant] I thought that, you know, through the year, when it's been one dimensional, they've been able to make one or two plays to kind of sway the game. Josh Allen was phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Where I was wrong about that game is that I didn't give enough credit to Josh Allen just being able to make plays all game long, them being on fire, and really the Buffalo defense making a few plays that I haven't seen them make all year long. You know, I think that was probably the thing that I didn't take into account, but man.


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[Assistant] They didn't even hide it. I mean, it was just drop back and we're coming at you with this pass game every play. And it was really awesome to see. And, you know, of course they have issues on the defensive side of the ball as far as cover people. You've heard me say that all year long.


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[Assistant] It's not gonna change. For who? Seattle? Seattle. They can't cover anybody. There's nobody that can cover man to man on that football team.


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[Assistant] Now, the one thing that I think is the least encouraging for Seattle, their defense yesterday, hey, Jamal Adams is back, that's great. And a lot of people are going to see negative plays from Jamal Adams. Listen, they asked Jamal Adams to do things that no other safety and football gets asked to do. Nobody.


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[Assistant] So he's gonna have bad plays. His PFF ranking is not gonna be number one or number two. Cause he's asked to do, like, out of the box safety type stuff.


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[Assistant] Him being back is also as a positive, of course. And then, hey, Carlos Dunlap, the trade they made, he popped up a lot during the game yesterday. I mean, he caused a lot of pressure and was disruptive, and I think they can be positive about that, but man.


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[Assistant] Pete Carroll is, they gotta go back to the drawing board as far as what they wanna do when they see these passing type offenses because they've just been gashed too many times this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're never dead. You know, Seattle really is not. And then of course, Buffalo's defense is not good enough to really just shut down an offense like Seattle all game long. So yeah, Russ was gonna make his plays. He made some mistakes yesterday. You know, they made mistakes as a football team all together.


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[Assistant] You know, he throws the interception in the end zone, the first one of the day, right? That wasn't horrible. You know, again, it was fourth down. He had to throw it.


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[Assistant] He wasn't gonna just like take a sack or throw the ball out of way. You know, so he's pushing the issue and they were all over the play. I mean, Buffalo, Sean McDermott, Leslie Frazier, they knew that was coming. They coached them up well. You know, the two strip sack fumbles,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's gonna make a mistake, cause he has to live on the edge of always trying to make a play or make it happen because really everything about them filters through him.


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[Assistant] So he's running up in the pocket, strip sack fumble. Okay, that's gonna happen. You know, now the other strip sack fumble, that was a pass protection mess up. The right tackle messed up. They should have been protected. That's why Russell wasn't expecting it. And then the interception,


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[Assistant] Hey, he, he, he made a bad read. There's no doubt about it. You know, they're trying to high-low the corner, and I think when he first got back, Trudevius White was really low, and he thought, oh, he'll stay down there by my receiver, let me look back to DK now and hit him on the deep out route.


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[Assistant] And Tredavious White, kinda just as Russell started to look away, he flew to DK right away. I mean, he did a great job. He's very instinctive that way. He gets the interception. So that's a tough one. Definitely.


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[Assistant] It's really the same story of both of these teams. They are so reliant on the talent of their quarterback, that yeaah, if their quarterback makes one bad play, which is gonna happen, because so much is on them, it, it really throws them off track, you know, and uhm, that's where it's interesting, and that's where Seattle's gotta help out Russell Wilson a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, yeaah, you're right. And, well, and, and, you know, again, I don't know, uh, have I, I haven't been saying anything bad about Josh Allen. I've been telling everybody to back the hell off of him because, I mean, again, I've never seen anybody go two and two through a stretch and everybody just point out as...


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[Assistant] Because I'm just, the hate all the time of Josh Allen, it drives me crazy. No matter what show I watch or whatever. We're very reactionary. We're very reactionary as a group. You know, yeaah. They lost two games in a four game stretch. They also won two games. And of those four games, it wasn't like they played


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[Assistant] You know, crappy teams. They played a Patriots defense who's as good as past coverage as there is in anybody in football.


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[Assistant] You know, the Titans, who have an understanding of that offense as well, because Vrabel was in, he's from New England, he knows what Brian Dayball is trying to do. They were toe to toe with the Chiefs. And I know the Jets game wasn't pretty.


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[Assistant] You know, Greg Williams is a good defensive coach, and they were asleep at the wheel. As you see, it doesn't matter who you are. Like, hey, Pittsburgh barely beat Dallas yesterday. So, okay, yeaah, they barely beat the Jets. I don't know if I wanna say Buffalo's in the Super Bowl conversation for me yet, but I do...


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[Assistant] They're inching with the way the AFC is playing out.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I don't think they're as good as their 8-0 record. No, I don't. You know, I- That would indicate they're perfect. And they're not a perfect team. No, they're not a perfect team. Uhm, you know, I've been saying all along that I still think Kansas City Chiefs are the best team in football and the best team in the AFC. They match up, that's who I would take. I had this conversation on Twitter last week and everything like that. And, you know, hey, as much as I like Pittsburgh, you weren't here last week, but


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[Assistant] They got their butts whooped in a lot of ways by the Ravens. The Ravens physically pushed them around and they made some plays and that's cool and that's good. So yea, I'm not sitting here going, oh yea, Pittsburgh to the Super Bowl, definitely. There's a lot to like, but as you saw, I mean yesterday was really probably the worst game they played all year long.


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[Assistant] And I will be excited to go back and watch this film. I want to see how Dallas ran the ball so effectively on the Steelers defense.


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[Assistant] You know, the Steelers just looked like they lacked energy, and then you caught a team in Dallas who, their energy has been questioned, their toughness, their competitiveness, they are desperate, and you know, they put their best foot forward, and Garrett Gilbert played a good game. I mean, the Steelers aren't gonna win the game.


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[Assistant] Unless they create the fumble from CD Lamb.


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[Assistant] And then, I mean, I don't want to say they weren't going to win the game, but it's going to be really tough. And then they're down 19-9 early in the fourth. And then the interception in the end zone.


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[Assistant] You know, Garrett Gilbert, it's 1915 now. Just, they kick a field goal, they go up by a touchdown. But instead, he gets hit as he's throwing, the ball pops up in the air, interception, you know, Pittsburgh defense saves the day. Uhm, but yeaah, underwhelming win for Pittsburgh. And it's still the same issues on offense. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Their pass game, you know, their pass game is good, it's not great. They always seem to find the right formula as the game goes on. But, but, yeaah, there's just too much choppiness.


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[Assistant] Huge, yeaah. Huge yards, it got, it didn't get all the yards because there was an illegal block in the back pretty far down the field. Yeaah. But still, it was very creative. And did you see what the guy did? So, they punt it to the, let's say the punter, he's punting it to the left, right?


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[Assistant] The gunner who is going to get the ball thrown the ball to him, right, the returner there.


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[Assistant] And I think, you know, just, it's a decoy. Like, oh, Pittsburgh season, they just let him go. They don't think he's actually picked, pulling up to set something up. And then, nice throw made across the field, and uh, hey, that's, fossil is...


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[Assistant] There's a reason he's... What I want to know is how much the Dallas pay him to steal him from the Rams. I mean, he's gotta be the highest paid special teams coach in football.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm truly interested to see where they rank here. I don't even know where they rank offensively, but I got it right here and we're gonna look. So alright, they're 29. Alright. Okay, so not last in football. Not last, but they're last in football from the standpoint of like, I don't want to watch them play offense. Well, between the Jets, the Giants, and the football team, I mean,


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[Assistant] Shits are pretty bad. I, that's what I mean. I would say the Bears clearly have more talent on the offensive side of the ball compared to those teams. Sure. You know, when you start talking about their two tight ends, Anthony Miller, Allen Robinson, Mone at receiver.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, it's Cordero Patterson, the Montgomery kid at running back. Now their offensive line has issues, but for the talent they have, they have no excuse to be the 29th ranked offense in football.


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[Assistant] You're not wrong. Definitely not. I mean they need to do something. Something has to be changed drastically.


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[Assistant] You know, approach, new play caller, new game plan designers, whatever it is. You've heard me say for really two years now, I never know what their game plan is going into the game. I never see


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[Assistant] Cohesiveness in the game plan where it's like, okay, we do this, we do this. Oh, we've been doing this because we're setting up that. Oh, we're doing this and we set up this and now we have that. There's no rhyme or reason. It's like they just have, he's got a Rolodex and he goes, that one. Okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, oh, it's third and 14? That one! Oh, yeah, oh wait, we're punning. Yeah, okay, great. I mean, that's, I don't know what else to say about their football team. And the disappointing thing is, they have a Super Bowl defense, and their offense just will not stop turning the freaking ball over. They really won't. You know, again, if they don't,


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[Assistant] Turn that ball over yesterday. It's still a game. Yea. I mean, they're gonna hang in there.


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[Assistant] But, you know, they just can't get anything going. Ten nothing, they're still in a game.


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[Assistant] I know, that's, it's all nice and everything like that, but I mean, within that, and okay, we're, I wanna, I'm gonna go to the Raiders for our friend here, cause I want to, but let's not forget, okay, that the stupid,


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[Assistant] Las Vegas, I mean Los Angeles Chargers, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Probably would be in a field goal within winning the game.


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[Assistant] If they could catch a punt, the series before, which they fumbled, and now, okay, you give the short field to the Raiders who kicked the field goal, and now you have to go down and score a touchdown. So, there was a little charger-esque element into this football game.


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[Assistant] You know, to what our buddy is saying there, certainly. The Raiders did a lot of good things. The Raiders won this game because of the three phases of their football team.


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[Assistant] You know, what the stat line is not going to show is their special teams and how good it did in a few kick returns and punt returns to set up short fields to where now Derek Carr just had to hit one big throw or it was one big run and you were like, whoa, we're at the 20 yard line. Here we go.


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[Assistant] You know, and that was really a big part of the game that gets lost a little bit. You know, you see there's a 6 play 44 yard drive for a touchdown, right, to go up 14-7.