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[Assistant] And they lost in the conference finals to the Magic, right? We never got to, we never got to capitalize off that. So they may do it, they may, you know, get 50 wins and, and congratulations. But the Knicks is looking at y'all. Winter's coming.


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[Assistant] Divas? Half game behind us. 50 wins for the Cavs, yes or no?


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[Assistant] I don't like none of the matchups. I don't like, like, you know, Kenny, Kenny DeJesmith always talks about it. Who has the best player in that series?


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[Assistant] Who has the best player in that series? Donovan Mitchell is better than Halliburton.


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[Assistant] Halliburton's not healthy either. Listen, I'm gonna give you this.


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[Assistant] 76ers? Nightmare. I don't even think they match up against the Magic that well.


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[Assistant] So, so you telling me now, out of all the teams that make it in the East, you don't like the matchup against the Sixers, the Heat, I'll give you all the Pacers, the Magic, the Knicks.


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[Assistant] If you play in the Cavs, what are you scared about?


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell. And if Donovan Mitchell ain't 100%, who you scared of?


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[Assistant] Nothing. You ain't gonna be like, oh they gonna shoot us out the gym. They not gonna out physical you. They don't got a secondary score that's gonna get


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[Assistant] There's just, I just, I don't like the Miami matchup. Hell no. No, you don't see Miami. No. What's wrong with you? No. It's just, you know, and it's a shame because when you're, when you're a secondary player. Is Tyler Hero coming back? He's supposed to be back at some point. I mean, when you're Darius Garley, you're the secondary player and the main player's out.


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing, because people


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[Assistant] You know, they blitzin' you, they gettin' the ball out of your hands, you dribblin' around, turnovers is pickin' up, maybe your shots is not fallin'. What are you gonna do? Like, I know in the playoffs, you need superstars. You don't need road guys.


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[Assistant] Superstars is what you need because rogue guys disappear from game to game, right? That's why LeBron is always saying, well, you know, I gotta, I gotta make a decision whether I'm gonna be aggressive.


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[Assistant] Or I'm gonna let the game come to me. He's more aggressive on the road because you gotta keep your team in the game on the road. Like you might get blown out. In playoffs, the game could be over in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] It's done. So, so what you need to do at home is, I got, I got time to, I'm gonna facilitate, I'm gonna get Strew six points, I'm gonna get Isaac O'Coro a couple points here, make sure he playing defense, let me get out in transition, maybe get a couple of threes from Darius, and then all of a sudden, the game is a little easier for the role players. But, my thing is this, he's gonna have to,


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[Assistant] If the Cavs wanna make a run or they wanna win a first round series, he's gonna have to be 24, 25 points. 19, 18 ain't good enough.


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[Assistant] You gonna need you Donovan to be at his 28. Those stars gotta have them points because you can't count on the Dean Waves and the Strews and the, and the Neangs from game to game in the playoffs. So he gonna have to, he gonna have to work on that.


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[Assistant] Somebody do it from the heat? I'm saying, Duncan Robinson and mixed with Mitchell Robinson. Oh, man.


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[Assistant] That was a good one. Easy money. I need you, we need to get, we need to get 19, 20 home runs out of you, big dog.


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[Assistant] We need that big homie. Uhm, you know, there's a lot of cats, you know, that, uh, you know, they bring it up in different young dudes and, you know what I'm saying? They're keeping Manzarder and Dillarder down there. Okay, what are you going to do that? We need, we need 20 from you, bro. I'm not trying to see Anthony's stunt double, uh, hedges. I'm not trying to see him.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm not trying to see him, I've never been a fan of, baseball has the craziest unwritten rules about


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can do it. We great, man. I'm a good locker room guy. Cause you play, you got your mixed CD in there. Just cause you play a mixed CD and you run around and you joke and tell fart jokes to everybody. That's what they pay you, 8 million? No.


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[Assistant] I need Bo Naylor out here getting his money off. I need 20 home runs. I need you to make the catcher position a power position. Uh, and you and your brother hold each other accountable. John, eh, Naylor, you can't, your bro, you can't fall off.


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[Assistant] Listen, you had a, you had a breakout year. We need another year like that from you too. We can't have nobody falling off. You can hit lefties now. Uh, you and your brother is cool. Y'all can go to Denny's and all that and have, have Grand Slam breakfast before the game. Y'all, y'all, y'all need to be locked in together. I need 40 home runs from y'all. Minimum. Denny's? Yeah, Denny's.


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[Assistant] I think they're gonna have to do some stuff to generate some, uh, buzz. I think they're gonna have to generate more of a buzz, uhm, if they can get some wins off top. That'll help, you know what I'm saying? If they can come back to that, you know, come back to the crib and be like, five and two.


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[Assistant] So you never really experienced like a regime change, right? No. The best thing you could do, like I had like three coaches, right? And I've been on, I've been on each of the, you know, each of the spectrums. I've been a guy who, when they recruited me, I could do no wrong. I had to go to class, I had to do nothing.


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[Assistant] It was so many, it was so many, like OU was like, uh, they called it, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.


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[Assistant] So what is Friday? Our X. 76ers. Our X like that. So how many more games? Tonight, he misses tonight, he's back next.


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[Assistant] Alright, so now you gonna, now what you gonna say? You guaranteeing him the third spot now?


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[Assistant] So, so, so Tyvis, when you was at home state, did y'all have curfew? Like during the season?


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[Assistant] What you mean? Like, did you have curfew where it was like, ayo, like, if you play, if you're the team.


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[Assistant] You got curfew, you can't be out after like 11 or something.


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[Assistant] Okay, so, we used to have this, what's the name of it? Heck no. We, we was partying so tough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was 48. No, you can't be, you're doing too much out here. We was throwing parties at, like- Oh, y'all was wild. No, listen, they postponed bus trips home. It's like, we already know y'all got a party ready to go.


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[Assistant] And they used to let us stay with what's-his-name players too. Non-athletes.


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[Assistant] Man, listen Coach Otis, I've been listening, I watch y'all on Instagram, I be seeing y'all on YouTube, and it's crazy.


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[Assistant] Can you put this to rest? Who started the hip twerking?


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[Assistant] Pre-game stuff. Was that Dak Prescott or Jameis Winston?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we, so that, they, they, they figured out that was a bag.


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[Assistant] So, our, one of our football players was an RA.


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[Assistant] If you played a sport, they didn't care about that. You play baseball, you play football, who cares about that? Nobody's trying to see that. But you was, if you was a bartender...


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[Assistant] Shout out to, shout out to, uh, uh, Brony, shout out to, to, uh, Cat's Eye, shout out to, uh, the Pub, the Pigskin, the CI, the Crystal, uh, Tonys, uh, the Junction. When you, when you, like, when you was bartending there, that was like you was a max player.


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[Assistant] You got free drinks. You could give underage people free drinks. You let all the people in from the dorms. You was, you was a, you was a king out there back then, bro. So, you was trying to get your little bar game on. You know what I'm saying? You was trying to be a little, little bar back or something back then. Them was the really hot dudes. They got, they got everything moving. Just shut it down. So yeaah.


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[Assistant] NCAA Championship? Yes, sir. No. You say no, you say yes. Come on, Tyvis. Stop it. Tyvis.


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[Assistant] LeBron James, you gotta think about it like this. LeBron James went to the league in average 20.


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[Assistant] What do you think he would have did coming out of high school in the East Indio Book Turner?


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[Assistant] It was six, Steph Curry is a little guy. LeBron James is, is six years old.


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[Assistant] Yes, Akron, Akron. They had Romeo Travis. They had some guys on there that could play ball. Uhm, Akron would have won the championship. Facts.


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[Assistant] Same thing with Jason Taylor. And at least back when, here's the thing, at least back when we was playing, you know, you knew these guys' names, right?


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[Assistant] I agree, but I'm just saying, like, that's a one man team. Stop playing around, bro. You see what he did, hit three threes coming in the game, this is unacceptable right now, McNuggets, they hating them off. I feel like they watched this.


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[Assistant] I feel like JB watches and be like, man, I'm tired of that fat dude on UCSS. The black fat dude.


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[Assistant] It's not, it's never gonna happen. This ain't even the best college team I've ever seen, like. No. You got UNLV.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, you're not beating up pro teams. Like, it's just, it's too different.


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[Assistant] Like even professional, like even guys like, what's her name? D'Angelo Russell would just go crazy. Go Bucks. Medium dudes. Medium sauce guys. D'Angelo Russell would cook.


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[Assistant] Like, oh, he'd have like 50 and 12 and 16 boards or something stupid. Like, re- Listen, think about it. Isaac O'Cora will get buckets against UConn.


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[Assistant] He was like, listen, I think he just gracefully bowed out. That's what I'm saying, I know he's been hurt. He's like, nah, I'm straight. Like, I'm cool. I had my moment.


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[Assistant] Everybody in the world got a fantasy parlay. Everybody got a fantasy team and everybody got bread on them. People in multiple fantasy leagues. And we watch it every single week to see how many yards you got.


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[Assistant] Please don't go, please don't have the outrage that, oh my gosh, props.


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[Assistant] Give me some dubs, man. Give me a couple wins. Like, if we gotta take these L's at the end, it's cool. Alright, we're gonna do this one day, so...


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[Assistant] Hey listen, I like- I like what he brings to the table.


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[Assistant] He's, he's your, your R version. Yeaah, what's he saying? Well yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, cleaver. He's, he's R version. I would, I would say. No true elite skill, but good at a lot of things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's not a lightning rod like Baker was, but...


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[Assistant] I think- Injury prone? In a way, I think people believe that Darius Garland is better than what he is. And he's really good at that.


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[Assistant] But he's not. If you go through, and you gotta do the exercises, it's always like this. You have to write down the other names of the people that he is in contention with. So you can understand that he's not that good.


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[Assistant] Yes, he's good, no dairies. So when you start writing down point guards, and you start getting to them,


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[Assistant] It's like, well dang, he's nowhere near like- He's 12ish. He's like 12 to 15, like, and he's closer to 15 than 12. Cause at least some of the people, like if you say Trae Young, Trae Young's a better passer and a shooter.


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[Assistant] I don't think I even secondaries over Trey. Even Kyrie Irving, I don't think I got Kyrie in the top 10. What? Like, strictly point guard?


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[Assistant] Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray. Halliburton. Halliburton. That's 10 right there. Kyrie.


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[Assistant] Uh, Fred Van Vliet. No, I'll take, I'll take, yeah, come on. No. I'll just read it though. Alright, so I got 13 above him right now.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna keep it funky. I'll take Darius over James Harden. De'Jonte Murray.


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[Assistant] He was on the trajectory a couple years ago to be 8'9".


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[Assistant] Those guys above them have either elite size, elite, uh, length, uh, uh, you know, elite


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not going with that. I would probably give Donovan Mitchell's explosiveness.


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[Assistant] He has the, he has the elitability to just get by you. Like he's by you. Like it's not like, he ain't gotta take 35 dribbles.


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[Assistant] Are, are you saying are they gonna clown him for having pink nail polish? Yea, like, like, uh, it's even able to be the team leader.


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[Assistant] How was the cruise? You know, the cruise was good. We raised over 4 million dollars. 7 million? 4 million.


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[Assistant] 4 million dollars. Uh, it was a good time being around all those former guys again and the new players, the current players were there. We had 8 of them. Uh, they was actually really good. Um, it was a good time. Really good time. I enjoyed myself.


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[Assistant] Anyways, you know what, I'm 30 now, so I'm not going to pay attention to what Steve got going on. So anyways, we was playing Are You Smarter Than The 5th Grader and let's just say that


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[Assistant] That, that the altercation took place, but I, to me it was kinda funny to me, but I...


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[Assistant] It wasn't funny to the other team.


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[Assistant] I actually didn't feel old at all. I kind of felt the same. I felt like I'm actually in my prime. And I just felt a little more mature.


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[Assistant] It's so hard in the day-to-day life, like everybody is struggling, you know, and it's, we get on this Instagram and Twitter and all these things and you, you live the, people live these false worlds about how, how they got all this money and in the actuality of things, they, people don't got it like that, you know, people are struggling out there, so.


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[Assistant] I think that it's impossible to axe them.


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[Assistant] To cut some more money out of they check that they already getting cut again to help you build a stadium. Now don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] Everybody wants a new stadium. Everybody would love to come to a dome stadium and, you know, support and watch the Browns in that aspect.


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[Assistant] Me being able to save money to get out of my situation, then there's no way that I could do that. Especially when you just made 13.65 billion dollars and it cost you two of that to build a new stadium. So I think Earl is 100% right. Would I actually love a new stadium? Absolutely.


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[Assistant] But if you gonna take money out of people that is already struggling's pockets, there's no way that I can sign off on something like that.


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[Assistant] I just feel like it won't be 50-50. That's just no way. Especially knowing that price tag. Uhm, I think maybe if it was like a, you put two, maybe we could come up with 500 million. Like, alright, maybe.


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[Assistant] You know, you can look at it like that, cause Jason was talking about maybe doing it out of gambling, doing it out of the marijuana and stuff like that. Alright, that's, that's cool. That's a, that's a decent way to do it. But, if you talking about, you come up with 1.25 billion and we come up with that, that dip. No, we can't do that. There's no way, there's no way that that's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] Well the first thing I wanted is to say, we need-


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[Assistant] The thing is you need to start admitting your mistakes. You made a mistake, you didn't, some guys didn't turn out to be the guy that you thought they were. And that's okay, that's human nature. But stop saying that, we're happy with that position. You're not.


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[Assistant] And get another playmaker on the opposite of miles gear. We've seen how great this D line has changed our total defense. Having that pass rush, having some guys in there that can make plays has really helped us become a more successful team. So we want to continue to build in that area.


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[Assistant] We already know, he gonna come right into this press conference and he gonna say, you know, as the Cleveland Browns, you know, we're always looking to upgrade those positions, but you know, right now we like what we are. We're happy with those guys that we have in those


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[Assistant] You know, sometimes he, he makes plays where I'm like, dude, oh, that's really good. Like you, you get your zone drops, you get in that hook window and you end up making a play there or you know, you make some really good tackles when it's in between the tackles.


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[Assistant] Like you do a really good job there, but then there's some games where, you know, there's been times where you just look completely lost. So I think I've given it to the fact that it is...


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[Assistant] Your first time really being at the mic. I know they did it last year before you tore your ACL. You was kind of forcing that position. It was good. This year it was kind of up and down. So I'm hoping that, you know, and on top of that, it was Jim Schwartz's new playbook. So I'm hoping year two in this system.


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[Assistant] You know, you're able to take that next step. You know, that's the thing. That's the next thing in your, your path to being a great linebacker.


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[Assistant] We already know that Cleveland Browns is not going to spend money at the linebacker position until J.O.K.'s contract comes up. And I think Takitaki can get the job done because he's done it.


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[Assistant] He just has to be more consistent and him being year two under Jim Schwartz, which has done a really good job of simplifying things. If JOK can take that next step, then you also can take another step in your game and be a really good lab.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like I say, when I watched him, he was one of the very few. Him and J.O.K. did a really good job of hitting, uh, getting back in coverage. And I think...


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[Assistant] Well, I don't think I know, talking to some people inside of the Browns building, that was like one of the biggest differences between Jim Schwartz and Joe Woods. For some odd reason, the linebacker play.


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[Assistant] When it came to getting back in your curls and getting into passing lanes.


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[Assistant] They didn't do a good job with Joe Woods. Which we, I pointed out a bunch of times, I remember the Falcons game, I'm like, what the heck are y'all doing in this? But anyways,


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[Assistant] When you're playing DB, when you got those linebackers that's getting 10 to 12 yards in those hook windows that can stop those digs or make that quarterback put just a little bit more air under the ball, it allows you to be able to run underneath it and make those plays. So I thought both of those guys, they're both athletic enough to get it done.


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[Assistant] Like I say, as long as they continue to keep getting better, which anybody, everybody gets better year two in the same, in the, under the same defensive staff. You know, under Jim Schwartz for my second year.


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[Assistant] A pro bowler, all pro and become better at your position.


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[Assistant] I mean, Elliott made a lot of plays this year. He went from a guy that G. Bush was through to a guy that we start seeing consistently week after week, especially towards later in the season. But I think Shelby and Mo Hirsch both have won their veterans and they've been in this league for quite some time.


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[Assistant] And like I say, I always told y'all, Shelby got one special ability that you can't really account for. Those PBUs is big.


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[Assistant] And getting your hands up and knocking those ball down really do play a big part. Especially if you're going up against like the Patrick Bahomes and the Josh Allens. You can get, you can steal two or three extra reps from a guy knocking the ball down and don't have to worry about them getting the first down or something. That's big. Mo Hirsch.


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[Assistant] Only thing with my horse is that he just gets hurt. I mean, his production was really good when he was in there. I mean, the guy made a ton of plays when he was in there, but his durability is not good. And that's the only thing that scares me.


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[Assistant] Am I okay with them letting Jordan Elliott test the market? Jordan Elliott will get paid because defensive tackles is a premium. If you got a good defensive tackle, you keep him forever. Are you always on the hunt looking for one? And I think he'll find a home relatively fast.


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[Assistant] But I do, if they want to roll with Harris and Hurst, I'm cool with that because I think as long as Hurst stay healthy and Harris is a great veteran and a guy that you can rotate in there that can do something, that can be productive on the defense.


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[Assistant] Well, the one thing that we know for sure is that you can't afford to get that wrong. I mean, we, we seen a season where we didn't have defensive tackle play and it was a disaster. I am confident that both of those two, obviously Shelby because I played with Shelby. Shout out to you. And Shelby never misses games by the way.


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[Assistant] But I think, I do believe that with the, with the defensive coordinator that you have, he just does a really good job of always having


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[Assistant] Good D lineman, especially at the defensive tackle position. I don't know what he acts of them, but whatever it is, they get it done. And to be able to rotate guys, you're always pretty fresh. So I think that with this decision, you're trusting that Jim Schwartz knows what he's doing, which he has a track history of knowing that.


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[Assistant] Harrison Bryan. Harrison Bryan did a really good job. I thought he was very productive this season. But when you look at this roster makeup, listen, this team is going to more so an air raid. We're going to be passing the ball a lot. I don't think they really...


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[Assistant] When you bringing a guy like Ken Dorsey, you're not looking to...


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[Assistant] Run this out of twelve personnel. When I say twelve personnel, I mean two tight end sets, two wide receivers. Like that's not what you, when you think of passing the ball, you think of eleven personnel, one tight end, and three wide receivers, or maybe ten personnel, no tight ends.


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[Assistant] David Najoku took that next step. I think the reason that they kept Harrison Bryan around for so many years is because he was an insurance policy. It was if David Najoku gets hurt or doesn't actually turn out to be that guy, we got a guy who won the Mackie. We got a guy that we could trust and we got a guy that Kevin Stefanski trusts and


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[Assistant] Once David Ajoku started to take off this year with Joe Flacco and, you know, towards the end of that season.


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[Assistant] Because we can definitely just draft another guy because the next guy, we just need him to come in on some run blocking players or something like that. Anyways, we know we have the pass threat in David Najoku. We know we have the mismatch with David Najoku. So we're not going to waste money because we already


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[Assistant] Trying to figure out how to keep everybody anyways, we can't afford to waste money on a tight end too when we can always just get a guy on a rookie deal that can come in and have that same productivity.


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[Assistant] The only ways that Darius Smith is coming back is if, one,


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[Assistant] You know, if he, if he got here and he was like, you know what? I really like these guys. We really got a good thing going and he can foresee himself winning a championship. He's like, you know what? They got all the pieces there. It is a championship mindset. You know, we just kind of tripped over our own feet. We had a lot of injuries, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think that we can win a Superbowl in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] If he thinks that, he'll take the, he won't take the big money. He'll go to a place that's comfortable and a place that he enjoyed. If he enjoyed playing football opposite of Miles Garrett, then he'll come back because he knows he'll have that, that he can have some production because teams won't be scheming for him. But if it is about the paycheck, which if you say that's what he's saying,


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[Assistant] Then there's no way, there's no way because Alex Wright was very productive towards the end of that season. Agbo is still here and he never really


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[Assistant] This is like one of his worst productions, or worse seasons of production. So it's like, why would I go back there if I'm not...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Exactly, and if I'm Zadarius, this is one of my worst seasons, why would I go back there? So I'ma go to a place where if I ain't at least, if I'm not gonna be productive, at least I'm getting paid a ton of money. So like, that's the way I look at it.


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[Assistant] I let Joe Flacco walk in Keith Philip Walker Jr.


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[Assistant] I would, first of all, Joe Flacco ain't coming back. Joe Flacco wants to be a starter. Joe Flacco will be a New England Patriots with AVP next year. So I think that once you let him test the market.


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[Assistant] I think that AVP was like, hey, you and I did well together. Come on over here to New England. We got to draft a quarterback anyways. We want you to groom the guy that we select with the third pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] Who probably is Jaden Daniels or something like that. We want you to groom that guy. But we want you to start off because we know that you're good and we know that you prepare well.


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[Assistant] So I think that he's going to end up being in New England next year, but if he doesn't,


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[Assistant] And he wants, and Cleveland wants to spend some money and bring him back. Absolutely you take Joe Flacco back. Why? Because you push Deshaun Watson, even though, like I said, Deshaun Watson needs no more motivation, but you also push him, make him become the best.


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[Assistant] Build the locker room up. He's a great locker room guy. I mean, you've seen some of the interviews. Um, once he took over, everybody was so happy with Joe Flacco here. So I think his presence in the locker room is really great as well. So if you can bring him back, bring him back. But I do believe that he will be a New England Patriot next year.


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[Assistant] So listen, let me tell you about the Kyle Bond, first of all. The Kyle Bond is really for guys that tape is okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, I made, my thing is, who I was as a person, as a player was, I was a big time playmaker. Like I made plays in the biggest moments. That's who I was. That was my thing now. Before those big moments came, everything might not have been all gravy. You know, I might have had some MMAs, I might have missed some tackles and stuff like that, but,


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[Assistant] When push came to shove, when it was time to make a play, there I was.


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[Assistant] The combine is literally for guys that tape is just okay, or if it's for guys that they're on the fence about. You know, like, is this guy a good player or not? I can't really tell.


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[Assistant] Press play and what, what do you see when you press play? That's really what this game is about. So the combine to me is really kind of overrated, but it is for God. I love seeing guys that


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[Assistant] Nobody really knows too much about, like a guy that goes to like the Mac school or something like that. Nobody really know about him. He goes out there and runs a fast time and now next thing you know this guy gets taken in the third or fourth round. Like those are cool stories. But at the end of the day, the combine is really just nothing.


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[Assistant] Cause at the end of the day you gotta press play. What do you do when the shoulder pads and the helmet is on? So that's my whole thought on the card.


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[Assistant] So what, like, what would like make you be like, oh yea, they gotta get this guy?


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[Assistant] Like I said, at the end of the day, it does exactly what I just said.


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[Assistant] What it does is it really messes up your thought process, to be honest with you. Because, like I say, a guy, a guy goes out there, if I see one of these receivers or a DB go out there and run 4-3, right? I'ma go back and look at his tape. Like, let me, okay, that's really good. Let's go look at his tape. Let's see what he does in the game.


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[Assistant] But he get, he getting burnt by other receivers or he get, or this receiver can't really create no separation.


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[Assistant] Okay, what was the point of you running this 40 times? What's going on? So like...


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[Assistant] What is, uh, do you know what, what did Cedric Tillman run? You know what he ran in his 40s?


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[Assistant] I know Joey Galloway, cause he used to run a Ford, too. And he like...


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[Assistant] I got, I got a question for you guys. Cause Joey liked that. Ted liked that too. I don't know, that's actually be a good race. Is that what they prime or? Yea, they prime.


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[Assistant] The way people have been talking is effing ridiculous. His BS is not fair to him.


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[Assistant] Absolutely not. Why would that? Listen, at the end of the day, I care about the people that's in my building.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's my boy. Like, as long as I got the respect of my peers and my coaches.


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[Assistant] And I'm playing the game that I love and I know that every night I go out there and do everything I can to play well.


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[Assistant] And they want to reward me with a contract and I want to be here. I'ma sign that contract. I don't care really what Timmy.


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[Assistant] I respect Buckeye Nation so much because I'm wired different than a lot of people. So when I had a bad game at Ohio State or in the league and I went and checked my Twitter and I got all these bad messages and bad DMs,


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[Assistant] I took it out of a sign of love because it's like you care. They expect you to be better. Exactly! You see that I'm a good player and you want to hold me to a certain standard.


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[Assistant] And I was like, you know what, all right, dang, you know what, let me get better so I can be good and I don't have to worry about these things. I don't really need you to tell me that because my coach is going to say that and my teammates is going to tell me that anyways, but I respect that you care about Ohio State football or whatever, or the nine organizations that I played for football so much.


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[Assistant] The Phillies? Eagles. Oh, the Eagles? They throw batteries?


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[Assistant] Like what I do is, you just, you call it what it is. Like, and the thing is,


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[Assistant] As long as you can keep the thing within sports, you're good. You can criticize his play. His play was terrible. He's, he's terrible. They shouldn't have signed him. All those, you can say all that. He had a terrible game. He can't shoot threes or whatever. He can't tackle. Whatever the case may be.


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[Assistant] Yes, I would. Cause I'm just telling it like it is.


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[Assistant] But I'm not, I'm just being critical. I'm just critiquing your play. I ain't, I'm not saying you stink or nothing like that. I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] Or you can just, you know what you could, what you could do, if you want to be, if that bothers you that much, just cut social media off.


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[Assistant] You'll never have to hear nothing. You won't see nothing. You'll think everything is great. Only people that you will pay attention to are the people that's in the building. So.


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[Assistant] Boy, let me ask you a question. The Browns are letting Harrison Bryant test the free agent market. Okay, so we're going to need a tight end too.


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[Assistant] Okay, if a tight end runs a 4-3 should the Browns use him and use their second round pick to grab that guy?


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[Assistant] Well, the combine is coming up and, you know, one of the questions was, you know, what does the combine sway our opinion of people?


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[Assistant] And I was just thinking, you know, since they needed Tony M2, you know, that's a position that Kevin Stefanski loves.


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[Assistant] Man, so Kyrie obviously gonna come out there. He definitely gonna come out there and he gonna try to go for 40. The thing is, him and Luke have been playing crazy the last few games.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they been like splitting 30 points a game between the two of those guys. Luka is good for 30, Kyrie is good for like 29, sometimes he get 30. I think...


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[Assistant] It's always something there when you go against a former team. It just is what it is. So you, I can see Kyrie coming out there, trying to go over, it'll probably be Donovan probably checking him.


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[Assistant] Nah, they need, they need Isaac O'Coro to play Luka Dancic because...


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[Assistant] He better figure it out because... It will be, because at least they all about the same height. But I think this is going to be a good game because the thing about the Cavs is...


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[Assistant] You want them, you want to see how they do against these teams that's the better teams. And the Mavs in the West is a really good solid team. You know, Luka's a...


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[Assistant] Some people argue they could be the face of the NBA after LeBron retires, even though we know it's Giannis, but we're not going to go there. And you got a good scorer like Kyrie. I want to see how the Cavs match up against this team, and I want to see if they for real. You know, you said that the Cavs were the number two ranked defense, right?


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[Assistant] So, this will be a game where that defense is going to have to come out and play. Isaac Okoro, if he is out there and he is checking Luka.


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[Assistant] Like you've been doing a really good job shutting down all these good premier scores. Luka's a different animal. I want to see if you can do those same things against a guy like Luka who's been getting 30 plus points a game.


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[Assistant] I'm really looking forward to this matchup tonight. I think there's a lot that we can learn. It is a little bit damper a little bit because Donovan is coming off of that illness, but if he can play a hundred percent and they can find a way to win this, it will make me feel better when it comes to close to the postseason.


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[Assistant] That is crazy that they got those two lined up. I definitely want to see Darius take that step.


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[Assistant] Cause obviously I know he's my favorite player on the Cavs, but to me he got like a,


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[Assistant] Take this with a grain of salt. I don't want to, I don't want people to go crazy when I say this. But he got some Kyrie game in him. Like to me, he, he reminds me of a young Kyrie. Not, not as, as crazy with the crossover, but I think he got great ball handling. I think he has the ability to take over games. It's just taking him a while to get that.


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[Assistant] Confidence. We thought he came back when he hit that shot, when he waved Donovan off and he hit the shot and...


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[Assistant] Spent Alice Carew, so I was like, okay, we're headed in the right direction. And then he kinda took a step back, but...


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[Assistant] I feel like it's still there. He just, I don't know, like, this is the time why Donovan's trying to, why Donovan's trying to get, come back from this illness. This is the time for you to step up and be that guy. Like you did it with, before Donovan was here, you were that guy. And then you kind of had to take the step back, like, go back to being that guy. It's nothing wrong with you.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to figure out why that could be. I mean, he's been slow getting back. He's found the, his playmaking ability is still there because he's still getting assists every game.


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[Assistant] If Darius is checking Kyrie tonight, he has to be, because Kyrie gonna go for his head, so he gotta be able to have some fun.


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[Assistant] Pushback, like, you gonna get a bucket on me? Alright, let me show you what I can do. Like, that's, I just wanna, I just wanna see, guess what I'm saying, like, them two got the same type of skill set where they can get the same type of things done. I would love to see Darius go at Kyrie Irvin and be like, listen, I don't care who you is, like, I'll back down from no way. If you do that, hey man, we got a chance against the Knicks at the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I got a 13 leg parlay. I got Donovan Mitchell 20 points cause he coming off that illness. I wanted to put 25 when he coming off that illness. Jared Allen 15 plus points, 15 points because


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[Assistant] 3s, Darius Garland to make 2 3s, Darius Garland to get 6 assists, Luca to get 6 assists, Jared Allen to get 1 block, Jared Allen 10 rebounds, and Max Strews 2 3s.


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[Assistant] Oh, I have seen Kyrie. I've seen Kyrie, uhm, live. When they, after we won the national championship, the Cavs hosted us, the Buckeyes, to a game and we watched the game. So I got to see them all. I got to, I was on the floor. We was on the floor. They honored us at, uh, like after a timeout or something like that. So, it's cool. Pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Moo! That would be a good one too. You get boxed in. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Are they catering to the female audience?


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[Assistant] They doin' them wrong. Yea, that's dirty. You know what THK is?


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[Assistant] That's, that's... It's bad. It's bad. Why are you doing them like that though?


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[Assistant] It's like, I think he might be before 10.


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[Assistant] No, I, I don't, Denzel Washington said that if you want to feel like, if you want to find out if you're addicted to social media, turn it off for a week. So I've been off of social media for a week, so I don't have nothing.


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[Assistant] About 10 days. Where are you going? Same neck of the woods? No, a little further south. Down in Naples.


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[Assistant] After last year, which was the year of the injured quarterback, uhm, how will the market for the backup quarterback be affected by that this year?


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[Assistant] We've already seen some movement for guys that are specifically going to be backup quarterbacks, which is somewhat odd.


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[Assistant] But we talked about it all during the regular season and I had several executives tell me that that market's gonna change. Because I think the teams had been undervaluing that position.


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[Assistant] And they saw what happens when you get caught naked without a good backup. And we saw what the Browns were able to do when they brought in a good quality backup. So I think that will reset the market. We're going to talk about that. Maybe not everybody will agree with that point. Uh, McNuggets wearing the new school seat today. I haven't seen that cap. Is that new for you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Noon is the witching hour. Uhm, I think, I think a lot of times the media, I know we got caught doing this a lot. We would tick down to noon and expect the ball was going to drop and all hell was going to break loose. Uh, and it's more like a slow opening of the door and a few sneak out. It depends on the year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that happens, but I do think that now, even though you're, you know, this dead period where there's supposed to be no negotiations, that's laughable. These deals have already leaked out before the deadline. We know about Baker's deal.


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[Assistant] We technically knew about, uh, the Russ Wilson deal. Even the trades. Even those trades, you know, can't happen.


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[Assistant] The big one's gone, isn't he? I mean, the Chief's re-signing, uh... No, no, no, I'm talking about, no, on base...


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[Assistant] What happens, but- I dunno. Like, if you wanna make a move, make the move. I know. I thought the Guardians might have been in on somebody.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, uhm, well you would think. Yeaah. Uh, and some of them go off the board before the period actually starts. Yeaah. Browns, make a move. We're going to talk about that. In fact, that's, that's going to be our starting point. Uhm, and also, even though there may not be a floodgate of news tidbits at noon, but we're going to talk. Mcnuggets did a good job of building some questions that will get us off the free agency pier.


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[Assistant] And we'll just jump off and talk about some of the things that we know are going to happen.


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[Assistant] You sure you're not related to him down the McNugget tree family? Maybe.


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[Assistant] It really is nuts. But I mean, if anybody, I was, when I was in Arizona, I was talking to somebody who used to live in Cleveland and he watches the show and he said, yeah, I noticed that, uh, you guys really are, it's like the ultimate Brown sports show. And he was a big guardians fan. He was there at spring training. And I said, we're the ultimate sports show, but let's face it.


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[Assistant] Was it that way? And I go, well, no, the Browns were about to leave and the Gardi or the Indians were slipping the switch and they were, they were about to become the relevant team.


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[Assistant] He's like, yeah, but there's no denying it now. Like I could just tell by the amount of Guardians news you do compared to the amount of Browns news. It's a Browns town. Whether anybody likes it or not, it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] But I wasn't, like, doing backflips over this move. Uh, I'm glad we have them.


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[Assistant] We didn't, you know, we didn't give up a lot to get him, but we only have him for 17 games.


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[Assistant] So I don't really think that this is- I-I-I'm pleased for next year.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it does buy them time to bridge, to build a bridge to when they do have a wide receiver room that we like. Not just the front office, but a wide receiver room that we like. Uh, is the wide receiver room better? Unquestionably. Jerry Judy's a guy who is still, you can't,


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[Assistant] Talk about his transition from Alabama to the NFL without saying potential.


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[Assistant] And so he's still a guy that hasn't tapped into all of that potential that we thought was there, but for some reason he's been an enigma. We, we, the production doesn't match what we think is the skill set.


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[Assistant] So for me, I'm glad I'd rather have him than not.


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[Assistant] And we pissed away 5th and 6th round picks in the past. These two picks we turned into something that we know is a tangible player. He's not a superstar, but he's better than any wide receiver we have, not


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[Assistant] Another Alabama alum. So I mean, from that standpoint, I think the room got better, but I like it.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this on that because I read that too.


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[Assistant] I like that part of it a lot. I do. Now granted, it might just be a one-year vacation for them here, but if they can come to some sort of an agreement after the season, without franchising, because I don't, I mean, look,


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[Assistant] That'd be a problem they would love to have. Yes, sure. So what I like about Andrew Barry is I kind of liken this to the Amari Cooper trade.


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[Assistant] Uh, granted, the skill set isn't as high, but he was a player who I think his team had sort of felt he had hit a glass ceiling. Dallas felt he was done. Uh, I think Denver, I don't know that Denver necessarily thinks he's done, but they think they got the most out of him that they could.


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[Assistant] So that actually played into Andrew Barry's hands. I started thinking after I read about the trade.


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[Assistant] I don't, I haven't, nobody else, I read that there were rumors that it was the, it started at a second and ended as a fourth and a fifth.


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[Assistant] I mean, we didn't get him. We didn't get him. That's fine. It's water under the bridge. But what I like about Andrew Berry is when he did the Amari Cooper move.


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[Assistant] This is kind of Amari Cooper light, really. He's got the same pedigree from Alabama. He, I think Amari had stamped his NFL credentials better. He was more of a proven player. But this could be a trade where you're getting Amari Cooper three years before you got Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] And we might be able to, we might be able to reap the benefits of him developing, because I do think there are maturity issues. I've talked to friends that covered the Broncos and they said, look, no individual stories, but we would be remiss if we didn't tell you that there was some baggage while he was here. Did you talk to Schlereth? I did not. Did you see his video?


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[Assistant] Mark is a team guy, a chemistry guy, very important. He had some incredible things that he told me that I've never even repeated about Maurice Claret that I've talked to Maurice about and he said those were absolutely true.


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[Assistant] I think Schlereth is a guy that was always a good locker room guy, was always a good chemistry guy. His concerns about him would scare me. Mecklenburg came out, I saw, and crushed Russell Wilson. And Mecklenburg was the kind of counterpart to Schlereth.


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[Assistant] You know, on the defensive side. Right, right, right. Uhm, so that's, that's a red flag. Yeah, yeah. I really do trust Stink. If Mark says it, it's probably true.


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[Assistant] You're right, but I think, you know, I think that goes back to Jarvis Landry. One of the things that, uh, Browns credited Jarvis for when, when they decided not to bring him back was the fact that he helped turn the culture around with this organization. And I think it has stayed in the direction Jarvis pointed it.


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[Assistant] And it hasn't flipped back the other way. Let's hope it doesn't.


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[Assistant] I think Amari, having Amari as a role model, I think he's his role model as a player.


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[Assistant] But, we're talking about on the gridiron. I'm talking about, he's never had a chance to spend time around him. What my hope is, is that he watches how he comports himself, and he watches, Murray Cooper is a pros pro.


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[Assistant] You know, he's a Nick Chubb. He goes about his business. He doesn't make a lot of waves. He just makes plays. And my hope is that


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[Assistant] Once Jerry Judy goes through training camp and he gets a look at his idol up close and gets to eyeball him, he'll realize that, oh,


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[Assistant] There's a second piece to being the player you are. And it's how you handle yourself in practice. It's how you handle yourself in the locker room. It's how you handle yourself with your teammates and in public. My hope is that Amari Cooper takes him under his wing, not as a football player.


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[Assistant] But as a young professional and teaches him how to be a pro, he can make a


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[Assistant] I've known Steve for a long time. He's brash. I get it. I like him personally.


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[Assistant] Uh, his criticism I thought of Jerry Judy was very fair. The way Judy responded, I remember at the time thinking, you know what, I don't want him in an orange hat.


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[Assistant] You said, if I'm Jerry Judy, I'm very embarrassed. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Either Jerry Judy was masking when he made his retort to Steve Smith's original criticism, which I thought was on point.


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[Assistant] The Russell Wilson experiment in Seattle, or I mean in Denver.


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[Assistant] I think that it kinda takes the Browns off the hook a little bit with the Deshaun Watson thing.


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[Assistant] I think this is, what happened in Denver now has finality to it. It can never be a success. It will always be bookmarked as a colossal organizational


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, I have all the hopes in the world that Jerry Judy becomes the player he can be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't know him from Adam. I've never met him. I don't know what kind of person he is. Uh, I, to your point earlier, you know, we were all 24 once.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you gave up a 5th and 6th. It's better than giving up 2 3rds like Schwartz and Bell. Yeah, right. You got almost nothing out of it. Yeah, exactly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like the inconsistencies. I want, I would almost rather you beat all of the teams that are three seeds or lower.


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[Assistant] And your losses come to the ones and twos in close games.


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[Assistant] What they've done over the last eight games is statistically very very very difficult to do. Here's what they've done.


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[Assistant] Before that eight game stretch started, they went, lost, lost, win, win. Lost, win, lost, win, lost, win, lost, win.


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[Assistant] There is absolutely no rhyme or reason to the games they win or the games they lose. While it was unbelievable that they were able to have the two wins against the 2-1 seeds in respective conferences, and I was stoked about those,


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[Assistant] They go out and lose on the back, on the, on the back ends of those to teams that they should have boat-raced.


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[Assistant] So it really is a virtual wash had they lost to Boston and Minnesota, but managed to beat Brooklyn and Atlanta.


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[Assistant] Now I know down the road you have in your mind, we beat them, we know, but we also know that those wins do not translate to postseason results. And I'm very worried about this team because I think they've got a lot of potential, but I still don't think they know who they are.


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[Assistant] How much they matter is a question. In your view then, you can't say that, you can't say the bad losses don't matter, but the great wins do.


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[Assistant] Then you're being consistent and I got no beef with that. However, I think where I was is you get on these highs after they beat the Bostons and the Minnesotas and then you see what they also can do when they just take their foot off the gas.


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[Assistant] I want to point one thing out. They still have the fewest losses on the road in the NBA. That's right. Last year, the one beef that I had about this team that won 52 games was


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[Assistant] Why are they so shitty on the road? That's right. Like they could, they were awful on the road. Inexplicably bad. And I think JB, you can't wave a magic wand and say, we're going to fix everything in one year. We're going to be a great road team. We're going to make deep strides into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] If you want to be successful in the NBA after the regular season, you have to win in hostile environments. I want our team this year to focus on games on the road.


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[Assistant] We were awful last year on the road. For this year, for the Guardians, the message at spring training was, we've got to be better in one run games.


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[Assistant] 31 losses last year in one run game. Win half of those, you walk to a division title. And I like that. You pick one thing. You can't say, well, we gotta be better on the road. We gotta do this. We gotta do that. Like, micromanage. For the Browns last year, it was, we're gonna beef up the defensive front.


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[Assistant] And then next year, we're going to beef up the wide receiver. Can't do everything at once. And I like that approach. And I do want to point out that the Cavs have been much, they're the best road team in the NBA.


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[Assistant] Mitchell's only been out five games, right? How many games?


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[Assistant] Well, the Amarni Bates stuff, I don't get. I, I love G2, but he's, basically he pointed out, I think he pointed out that, uh, Dean Wade was out there.


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[Assistant] I did not understand that at all, especially for Amani Bates. Like I know he loves Amani Bates. Amani Bates has had a very, very small appetizer at the NBA level.


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[Assistant] And has been flat out atrocious. If they thought he could help an NBA team, he'd be


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[Assistant] Right, but do you think that there, I mean, what was different? Like, you know, you always look for the control and the experiment.


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[Assistant] I think that they stumbled upon this magical lineup that worked. We saw it with our eyes.


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[Assistant] My issue with Darius Garland, and I'm seeing it more and more and more and more, is becoming habitual.


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[Assistant] I have no confidence in him late in the game.


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[Assistant] We saw in the Boston win he missed a terrible out of control driving layup that Dean Wade came from the rafters and put home.


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[Assistant] Then he was called for, which was waived off, the last second foul on the miss.


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[Assistant] Watch what he does here. He will dribble, dribble, dribble and either get a bad shot or turn the ball over.


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[Assistant] Yes, I know he did. And Donovan Mitchell's just better at moving the ball. I know he did, but you know what was funny? There was really no pressure in that overtime period because they built such a big lead. It's in the close and late that he seems to melt down.


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[Assistant] I don't think we are going to talk that in overtime. I don't think I'm not overly concerned about that yet. Guys get sore elbows early in the spring.


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[Assistant] I agree with you Bull, I think it's two thumbs up for both. I don't think this is a team friendly deal or a player friendly deal. I think this is one of those rare occasions where you can look at the numbers and say, that's, that's appropriate. I love the fact that the Bucs have an escape clause if it goes south.


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[Assistant] He has been playing for this contract for three years. His last year in Cleveland. Yep.


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[Assistant] Then the weird year where he was Carolina and the Rams, and he still didn't get the money, even though he had some up and some down.


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[Assistant] He went to Tampa on a one year prove it and I think he proved it and I think the Bucks are like, this is a check we are glad to write. We think we've answered our question for sure in the short term at quarterback. We hope in the long term. I do think that he's a product of having two


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[Assistant] Wonderful wide receivers. He's got two.


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[Assistant] I think it's a good deal again all the way around. I am, one of the part of the question was that you sent out was are you happy for Baker? I am happy for Baker. I never had Baker animus or hatred. Uhm, we didn't always see eye to eye personally, but I, I do think that


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[Assistant] He's a guy who does his best work, and this is, this is troubling, if you're Tampa Bay. He does his best work when the world says he can't do it.


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask you this. Are you moving forward? Cause I know last year, I think you're, you're, um, it was kind of a bloodsport for you. Anytime he would throw a pick, he was like, yep, crunch time. Baker just threw the pick. I'm going to let it be.


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[Assistant] Uh, I just, some things that we didn't talk about on the show after, because we were kind of crunched on time, because it was, it was pegged at the end of the show. He chuckled.


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[Assistant] I invited him into the show. He said, I'd love to come in. He goes, I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of detractors. I've had them my whole career. And I don't have any purse. I don't just like the guy. The funny thing about Austin Hedges, and I promise you this. When you meet the man.


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[Assistant] You're gonna instantly love him. I know, everybody says he's the best. He's just, he's just a guy, he's self-deprecating, number one.


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[Assistant] But I saw some things on the field that I didn't even know about Austin Hedges. First of all, I mentioned every one of the guys said, we can't state, we can't, it can't be overstated the importance of having him back in our clubhouse. Anthony said it.


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[Assistant] Head knows his reputation and knows that every team needs one of those.


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[Assistant] Forever, when a ball is hit, what is the protocol? When a ball is hit up in the air and two players come together. Got it. I got it. I got it. That's drilled in from five years old.


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[Assistant] Mine, mine, I got it. Wave your arms. Steven Vought's changing that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so he wants there to be a communication leader on all of these, what are called circus plays. Who says, that person tells you. That person says, get out, get out, get out. Yeah, yeah, okay. It makes perfect sense. It's a second way to skin a cat, but if you think about it,


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[Assistant] Doesn't have the best view of everyone. That should be the person who's forward-facing. Right. The outfielder. He's gonna make the judgment call on communication. When he yells, get out, get out, get out, everyone peels and goes. And it, but there was one play where it didn't work.


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[Assistant] And I think it was one of the young short stops that dropped the ball after the play was called, he dropped the ball and.


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[Assistant] Our man, Austin Hedges, let him have it. Yeaah, that's good. And so you need someone like that to hold guys accountable. You've gotta catch the ball once you're in position. That's right. So I like, I like him and he has agreed to come in and he'll do something with, with Anthony. Anthony addresses him and he lets him walk through the club office.


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[Assistant] If the committee is smart, they will find a way to do just that. Now you still have Yukon, Notre Dame, you've got other teams in there that could be upset makers.


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[Assistant] I just can't wait. I think whatever we get, now we can all talk about our dream scenario. I think, can you imagine a Final Four, LSU Carolina, Iowa, Ohio State?


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[Assistant] His agent came out and kinda put the pressure on Tampa Bay and basically said he wants to play for a contender and as soon as he started talking about other teams.


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[Assistant] Which is the way I think Russ should be used. Yes, absolutely. If you had to pick blame on the whole Russell Wilson experiment, I'm blaming Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] Now, now look, he was forced with Russell Wilson. He didn't, he didn't say to management, you know, Russell Wilson deal was already done.


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[Assistant] He came in and inherited Russell Wilson, but instead of adapting what he does to what Russell does best, he said, no, no, no, no, no. I'm the smartest man in the NFL. I'm about to make him turn him into Drew Brees. He's not Drew Brees. He could never be Drew Brees. They're different skill sets.


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[Assistant] You're right. Pittsburgh is smart enough to say, haha, they get, I think in the end, because it was a one year deal.


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[Assistant] No frills deal. And the guy, look at the quarterbacks in the division now.


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[Assistant] You got Russ Wilson, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow. I don't know that...


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[Assistant] On name brand alone? Now I know that Russell is this and Deshaun is where, where is he?


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[Assistant] But the other two are young, Super Bowl caliber quarterbacks. I can't remember a time when all of the quarterbacks in a division


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[Assistant] Russ beat the Browns last year when he was miscast on a team that was just all over the place. Now they had, remember, didn't they give up 80 points to the Dolphins?


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[Assistant] And we thought this is the worst, like, we thought that Peyton was going to be fired and Russell Wilson was going to be released and the whole thing was going to be set ablaze. And then all of a sudden, they turned into this defensive juggernaut and caught fire.


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[Assistant] In a six game stretch and we happened to catch them at the tail end of that. But Russ beat the Browns last year with an inferior roster.


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[Assistant] How concerned are you if you're Pittsburgh about all of the stories that have now come out? There were some that were leaking out during the season.


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[Assistant] He had his own office at the facility. He didn't eat or fraternize with any of the other players. It was Russell off on his own getting the King's treatment. How much are you concerned by that or do you think that the way that was handled both publicly in the media and by Sean Payton who basically said, I'm not here to


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[Assistant] To coddle you. I'm here to coach you. Before you answer that. Maybe that was a life changing experience for a while.


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[Assistant] At one time, all four quarterbacks in this division have been in the top five quarterback conversation. Yes.


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[Assistant] That's why Tomlin runs the Steelers. And I think Russ knows that. He knows Russ' reputation, or I mean, uh, Tomlin's reputation. He did treat Ben differently, but I don't think...


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[Assistant] There was a thought that maybe Mike is losing the locker room, but I think he...


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[Assistant] Quickly made an adjustment, got things back into order, and they're more of the strict team now than they were.


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[Assistant] It just offsets Denver's money to him. He doesn't care. The reason he would be willing to pay for less is because it inflicts more pain on Denver.


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[Assistant] What do you, what do you, on the contract extension to burrow, like- You're right, I'm not talking about that.


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[Assistant] But I think you're right. I think they've made the decision. We know who are.


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[Assistant] Epicenter wide receiver is the guy that the whole universe in that room is going to swirl around their Amari Cooper is, is not T Higgins, right? It's chase.


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[Assistant] I think Cincinnati's playing it smartly, and I don't think he's going to be available this year.


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[Assistant] Not anymore. We saw what Baker got and you're saying that's 12 to 15 tier. So all those numbers keep astonishingly moving up. He might be the first guy to get 35.


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[Assistant] It was an interesting question because when I first read it last night, I thought, no. But then I thought about what he did last year.


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm not as intimately familiar with every other team's moves as I am the Browns.


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[Assistant] But off the top of my head, I would say he is a very aggressive general manager. Is he the most aggressive? I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know what I wonder? I wonder if Jimmy didn't finally come to an epiphany that, you know, the draft is really a frickin' crapshoot.


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[Assistant] I don't know what the hell I'm gonna get out of the draft. However, I do know what I'm gonna get.


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[Assistant] I think that there, there is a shift in philosophy in the NFL and it's been going on for a while. I'm not going to, I'm not going to purport that it's just like happened the last two years. I think it's gradually happened over the last decades where teams have finally come to the realization that


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[Assistant] I don't have time to sit around and wait through, cause GM's don't. GM's are on that hot seat the day they sit in it. That's right. So, are you gonna...


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[Assistant] Try to get an Anthony Schwartz and a David Bell to save your career, or are you gonna try to get an Amari Cooper and a Jerry Judy to save your career?


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[Assistant] And then, when the prototypical NFL clock says you go from the top of the talent cycle to the bottom every seven years or so, the Ram said, okay, now?


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[Assistant] I just thought that I think Swift's a better player. Now, you make an interesting point.


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[Assistant] He wasn't the player last year that he was the year before, but I just thought it was a usage problem.


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[Assistant] Like there would be stretches where, and then she's driving nuts with the Browns too, but critical stretches in the game, big drives where they don't need to pass, running the ball would be better. And the guys on the bench are just not being


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing, here's the thing though, Bull, I think we're living on $2022.


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[Assistant] I don't know if we should read too much into it. I think you can look at it one of two ways. You can look at it as wow, the Bears are really going to be a team that can threaten to move the ball on the ground.


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[Assistant] Compared to, or we're going to lose our best running back in Justin Fields because that's what he was. We better put someone back there.


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[Assistant] I think they're playing their hand that they are going to move on from Justin Fields. I do.


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[Assistant] I just think, because, and they identified the running back that they most wanted, and they weren't pissing around, they just did it. They got it done.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like if you do Kirk Cousins, then it probably excludes, it does excludes Justin Fields from going to Atlanta. Right.


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[Assistant] I think Pittsburgh was choosing between Justin Fields and Russ Wilson, and the Russ Wilson thing has so much upside. Yeaah. And there's still some downside to Justin Fields. You just don't know. Plus you have to give up at least one draft pick for Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] Cause then you're renting a player and they want, they don't want a bridge. See, in Pittsburgh, the only good thing for the Browns with the Russ Wilson deal, he's a bridge.


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[Assistant] He could still be either or. He could be a bridge or he could be the future.


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[Assistant] But I don't know the Denver. Giants Washington. I mean, uh, the Giants. It was that story out of the combine about the Giants.


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[Assistant] unequivocally done with Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] Look at the contracts, and we don't know that ours isn't going to be in this conversation post-script, but when you look at the dollars that the Giants and the Broncos set on fire,


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[Assistant] He, by the way, got I think the lowest grade in that NFLPA survey about coach, you know, when the players graded that, which stunned me.


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[Assistant] Boy, that's why that loss last year was so crippling for them. Because...


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[Assistant] Their window, you know how it opens and closes. I think it could be closer to being closed than it is to opening.


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[Assistant] I think he did, I think he looked better, but the project that they were trying to turn him into a pocket pastor, I just think that's a fail.


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[Assistant] I think when you draft a quarterback like this, Baltimore did it the right way.


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[Assistant] By the way, Lamar Jackson, if you could compare his body type.


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[Assistant] To the player he was coming out of Louisville, to the player he is now, I give him a ton of credit. He has beefed up that upper torso. He was a stick coming out of college. The one thing that I think you have to be all in on when you draft a quarterback like that, why would you take off his cape?


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[Assistant] I agree with that part of it, but bull, like, so every team does this. They allocate their assets. So it's just like a family budget. How much of our income this year is going to be spent on rent, food,


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[Assistant] And down the line is vacation, right? Like maybe the sixth or seventh thing you get to.


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[Assistant] After you pay, you know, take care of all of your primary expenses. And I think...


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[Assistant] Everyday living, people now are starting to value a work-life balance more than they did in the past. Why? Because mental health crisis is up through the roof. Why? We've ignored vacations.


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[Assistant] So, and I read this, and as I was reading this, this was a couple weeks ago, I read it, how Americans are now making a bigger priority of their


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[Assistant] It's gradually moved up where it's now in the top five for most American families because they've realized they over, they over...


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[Assistant] Compensated one way to where they're like, well, I gotta take care of my priorities first. Then we had our mental health illness, our mental illness issues were going up, up, up. People weren't taking vacations. They're like, screw this, man. I gotta spend more money on my vacation. I think with the NFL and their budgets, they've looked at things that they prioritize as starting quarterback number one.


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[Assistant] Number two, a great defensive end. Number three, a great wide receiver. And then down the list, after corner and running back and safety and linebacker, way down there at the bottom was backup quarterback. And I think what teams have realized over the last probably decade is that


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[Assistant] commodity. It gets you, we talked about the building between free agency and the draft.


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[Assistant] The draft is a put a blindfold on, turn off the lights, and throw the dust.


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[Assistant] If they were great, they'd be a starter. I think you're comparing them to the starting quarterback and we're not. We're saying you have an opportunity.


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[Assistant] Okay, because there's 75 quarterbacks in the NFL. Or so. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You can't get a 32 to 1. Those guys are already in jobs.


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[Assistant] Couple of years? I think that has something to do with it too. Okay, so maybe you give- The one thing that I said last year was, I think the guys that are gonna have success are the guys that aren't new to the system. And by new I mean year one or year two. Now, if you've got a guy in your system for a number of years, and particularly if he's behind somebody who's really good,


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[Assistant] I feel really comfortable about that situation. The DTR thing...


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[Assistant] There's still going to be a lot of teams that have backup quarterbacks that are rookies. That's just the nature of the beast or second year guys. But I do think that after what happened last year with all of the teams that lost their starting quarterbacks,


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[Assistant] perhaps the one thing that we're going to see moving forward is teams are going to take insurance policies. Well, God, it's $600 a month for flood insurance on the Florida coast. Yeah, but your house is


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[Assistant] Right, I mean we can't have proof yet, we're in that cycle right now. But what I will say is, of the Mack Jones thing, when was the last time we saw a teen on


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[Assistant] I think it was Schefter did this experiment. You guys may have seen it and read about it. Over the last 10 years, they decided, now this is dicey because this is very subjective. They took all of the quarterbacks taken in the first round and they said,


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[Assistant] Or miss. Now that's really tough. That's black and white, and it's not black and white. There are shades of gray in that. Like Baker.


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[Assistant] I guess now we can say he's a hit, but if we would have asked last year when Carolina cut his ass, he would have been a miss.


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[Assistant] Only 30% of them were considered by this panel to be hits. So we're talking about probably one of the most difficult positions to project in all of sports. Okay?


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[Assistant] What they're doing, Bull, is increasing their odds from 6% with unknown commodity to 12% with Mac Jones.


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[Assistant] What's happened through time and through circumstance, they've lost.


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[Assistant] Look at the teams that advanced in the playoffs. They were doing it with...


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[Assistant] They're starting quarterback. Yeah, and that's the way to advance. Sure it is. Wear exceptions. Don't get hurt. But what we've said here on this panel, you did, Jason did, last year, before the season started, well none of this matters. If Deshaun Watson gets hurt, the season's over. They can no longer take that approach and here's why. The window is small. You can no longer take the approach that


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[Assistant] There was a stretch where, and I remember vividly, where guys were drafted and five years later they were washed out of the league.


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[Assistant] Remember that? I'm talking about highly rated first round guys. In Cleveland's case, sometimes they were out of the league in one or two years.


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[Assistant] The one thing that was always intriguing about Colt McCoy...


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[Assistant] Was, there was always something to Colt. There was also always something that was missing with Colt. And I think it was here.


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[Assistant] And, and like, uh, like just a toughness. But you'd watch him play and be like, god dang man, this guy can move the football. And, and teams.


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[Assistant] Got a second contract that was not a big deal and they were washed out of the league. And I always used to say, God dang, there's no way there's.


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[Assistant] You know, 32 quarterbacks, and I'm talking about 33 to 64, better than him.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying big money. Okay. What did the, what did the Steelers just do? Now he's gonna be their starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] They just got a quarterback. This is why that deal is most scary and we didn't talk about this. What that deal does for Pittsburgh is give them unbelievable flexibility with the rest of its roster. Cause they're not paying a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Right, okay. So, that has nothing to do with this conversation. Well, here's why it's interesting. When Russell won his Super Bowl, he was on a rookie deal, making no money, and the Seahawks had the flexibility to build a deep and strong roster


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[Assistant] Everywhere else with the money that other teams are spending on their quarterback.


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[Assistant] That's why it's an advantage. That's why. That has nothing to do with this backup quarterback. It doesn't. It kind of transitioned to that. But what I would say to you on the backup point specifically, because you're, you're focusing in on, I'm not saying that teams are going to go get


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[Assistant] Big name quarterbacks to be their backup. I'm not. I still think that in the NFL, we pretty much know who the top ten guys are.


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[Assistant] We also know who 10 through 20 are. And 20 through 30.


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[Assistant] After that, I think leagues have pretty much said what doesn't matter after that.


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[Assistant] Who once upon a time was a starter, would love to hold a clipboard and wear a baseball cap for another 4 million a year, and be a backup to a guy like Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] Wow, that's interesting. Well, I mean, let's talk, we're not talking about a lot. No, I mean, Gene Bush is the size of a house.


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[Assistant] I love, did you see him talking about it on the podcast where he was basically saying, you know, I'm all about a negotiation, but I'm not about, you know, extortion.


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[Assistant] My first job I was making $15,000 a year. I made no money.


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[Assistant] And, you know, it's tough when you're out of school. Even though I was fortunate enough not to have any debt, I still, you know, you want to live your life. I barely make my bills. Right. And my dad said, what you need to do is you need to look at it as the investment that you're making in your future.


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[Assistant] If you don't do this, you'll never get to that.


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[Assistant] So that seems to be the new bar for the going rate for the... And those guys aren't even great.


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[Assistant] You talk about putting a bottle on a guy, uh, putting a lid on a guy. What did, what did they get? Didn't he have like six carries for 14 yards when he faced us last year? Henry.


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[Assistant] It was probably a certainty that the restructuring of Chubb


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[Assistant] Well, because you're basically doubling down on your bet, Bull.


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[Assistant] You know, I wanted to ask you this too because I don't know where you guys would land on this. Let's jump in the time machine.


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[Assistant] And all things have to be considered here. The salary for Deshaun. What we gave up for Deshaun.


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[Assistant] Baker is now being paid if you could jump into the way back machine and go back in time before that deal was made and change one decision in the history of the franchise. That decision would be


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[Assistant] You're gonna invest in Baker, not at the 30 million dollar level that he was wanting then.


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[Assistant] But one is dependent on the other. You don't move on from Baker if you don't have Deshawn. See, I do get, I understand the fact that you got a chance to get this generational, this once in a generational guy.


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[Assistant] He looked like he was gonna be. He's got a lot of baggage. We don't know that he'll ever be that guy again. But you made the decision that you're gonna punt on Baker. I always go back to the comment that Kevin Stefanski made.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm not sure that in all of the parties involved


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[Assistant] Right, so what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, if we can go back in the time machine, and I'm not saying change both moods.


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[Assistant] But the move is Baker for Watson. If you could undo that and go back two years, knowing what we know now.


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[Assistant] Would you or would you double down on that trade?


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing, next March we'll do the same thing. Cause we'll have another year of hay in the barn. We'll have, we'll see what Deshaun Watson is going to become. We'll see whether Baker can sustain one good season and slingshot it cause he's been checkerboard all through his career.


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[Assistant] Good, bad, good, bad, now good. Let's see what he does next year. But I think it's worth discussing next March when we've got 60% of the contract will already be done.


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[Assistant] And then we'll be able to say, we've seen more of Deshaun than we're going to see. Do you still think that that was the right move?


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[Assistant] Ohio State boat raced Rutgers yesterday. They did. That was, was that at Rutgers too? Is that the rap? Pretty sure. I think it was. Pretty sure.


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[Assistant] Semifinals, I think. By the way, speaking of Rutgers, shout out to my son who coached another All-American long jumper over the weekend. Nice. Congratulations.


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[Assistant] That number of fully guaranteed? Yea. More than two thirds of that is the signing bonus?


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[Assistant] We've talked about this in various iterations my whole career. It's Ohio State, Michigan.


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[Assistant] We are biased. But when ESPN counted down the greatest rivals in sports, Ohio State Michigan was right at the top.


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[Assistant] And by the way, when men's basketball slips behind women's basketball in popularity,


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[Assistant] I'm convinced that the jets are going to be the jets forever.


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[Assistant] And now the Giants have become the Jets, which is most- Yeah, they're terrible. Because the Giants were always like one of those Tiffany-


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[Assistant] Franchises in the league. Not anymore. You looked at, you looked at the Steelers, you looked at the Giants, you know, the Patriots, but boy, they haven't even been to the playoffs in 10 years, right, Mike?


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[Assistant] And we welcome you to The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show WKYC Style. We've got 30 minutes of Cleveland area sports. I'm Jay Crawford. In the next 30 minutes, in honor of 216 Day, February 16th, we'll be sharing our favorite Cleveland sports memories with you. I think you can guess which one mine is.


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[Assistant] What do you guys give the Cavs? Because here we are at the All-Star break, which is not really the halfway point. It's much further than the halfway point.


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[Assistant] of the season, but the Cavs currently sit as the two seed in the Eastern Conference. Remember last year they finished as the four seed, 152 games, but were bounced in the first round. Letter grades. What do you got?


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[Assistant] Okay, it was great the way they ended it, but you can't fall down to a team at home like the Bulls by 17 points. And I know White was playing Jordan-like basketball. He was out of his mind. Best game I've ever seen. I was literally like, man, I knew this guy was good. I didn't think he was that good.


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[Assistant] You're the best team in the, second best team in the conference. You can't let these teams, like the Bulls,


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[Assistant] And the game before them, the Sixers who were playing shorthanded come in here and either beat you or take you to a last second shot.


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[Assistant] So also, yes, I agree with you. A lot of these guys are playing the best basketball of their careers. Donovan Mitchell for sure. Allen is, Mobley is, Garland is still struggling. I don't know what the answer is to figure out how to fit him into all of this.


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[Assistant] Let's give them an A and I also want to make this statement. This is a quiz in the midterm grading section and it's only going to count for 10% of your final grade.


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[Assistant] I don't care about the regular season anymore. You and I particularly said, no, no, no, no. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


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[Assistant] I wanna see what they do leading up to the playoffs and in the playoffs. So it counts for 10% of the final grade, the second half will count for 20% of the final grade, and what you do in the playoffs will count for 70%.


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[Assistant] They have to figure out matchups. They have to figure out rotations. I still think the big question this year is what is Darius Garland? Yes, that's the big question. Okay, next up, let's go to the Browns and there's something a little interesting happening in Berea right now.


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[Assistant] By some counts could be considered a conversation for executive of the year. He made some great off-season moves upgrading this team. But Barry and Stefanski as a duo are entering the last year of their contracts and there really hasn't been a whisper about an extension for either one.


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[Assistant] One to ten. Ten being shocked. One being this is what you expected. Where are you on the scale of surprise?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that I think was, the season ended on a sour note.


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[Assistant] And because of that, we saw a change in offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] We saw a change at the tight end coach position, a change at the running back position


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[Assistant] It's weird, typically when you win 11 and make the playoffs, you're rewarded with something. Uh, this team really wasn't rewarded. Kevin Stefanski, coach of the year, second time in four years.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett, Defensive Player of the Year. You would think that there'd be flowers, but...


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[Assistant] There haven't been, and I think as a fan base, as I've had a little bit more time to think about all that, I'm okay with that. It's the Haslam's way of saying, okay, you did okay, you didn't break any records, you did okay, but we need better than okay. It was a shot across the bow.


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[Assistant] What they're saying to the organization and everybody in it, this wasn't good enough.


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[Assistant] We expect more, our bar is higher, and we're moving in a different direction to get there. So I'm okay with that. I'm actually lower than you. A, it's the Haslams. Nothing surprises me. B, there's clearly some friction going on in this organization.


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[Assistant] I don't think, I'm not reporting, this is my opinion. I don't think Kevin Stefanski wanted to move on from the offensive coordinator and Alex van Pelt. I don't think he necessarily wanted to hire Ken Dorsey and I don't think he wants to give up play calling and that may happen. So because of all of that,


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[Assistant] There's some friction going on, and I know that everybody right now is saying it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, and it probably will. But right now that it hasn't, I'm not too shocked by it.


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[Assistant] Today is February 16th, also known as 216 Day in honor of the OG area code in the Cleveland area. Now we're getting a third area code to go along with 440 and 216.


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[Assistant] What's your favorite all-time Cleveland sports memory?


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[Assistant] That was a wonderful day. That was a wonderful event. Uhm, winning the championship was my number two. I remember celebrating in the Plaza area between Progressive and what was then Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse.


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[Assistant] And walking back to the hotel, which was downtown. I was in town for ESPN to cover it.


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[Assistant] Uh, there was gridlock everywhere. Nobody could move. Yep. Everybody was outside of their cars. Yep. Dancing on cars, horns beeping. It took me about an hour to get from the plaza to the hotel, which was just a couple of blocks away.


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[Assistant] And what I'll never forget about it is it was the one time in my life where I remember commenting and it was the overarching theme of that night was look at how society can integrate.


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[Assistant] I saw black guys hugging white cops. I saw, you know, when do you see that? I saw white guys high-fiving black guys that were dancing on their cars. That was the one thing that I said, boy, you'll never see that again.


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[Assistant] I saw two black guys dancing on some guy's car, it was not theirs, with their shirts off, going like this, and the owner of the car got out and I go, uh oh.


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[Assistant] And he high-fived the guys that were dancing on his car. Man. Uh, there was love everywhere. And the euphoria of finally celebrating a city championship was unlike any other. But for me, it was Rajay Davis's home run.