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[Assistant] You know, they're so athletic that way. And that's where, and 96 is in the middle, uh, right there. 96, I wanna say, I'm gonna blank on his name, Pete, but you're gonna have to tell me in his ear. 96 on the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] That's what you're gonna do. And because of their, their, their, Neville Galbemore is the 96, I believe. That's where I'm messing that up. You know?


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[Assistant] That's where they're going to cause problems for defenses going forward. Is this defensive front, these, this personnel on the field, and because they have athletes at the defense end position,


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[Assistant] It's gonna allow them to be a little versatile with you drop, you drop, you blitz, or you know, you blitz, you drop.


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[Assistant] Or maybe they end up starting to, you know, put Michael Parsons out here. And now it's, oh, now it's Basham over here.


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[Assistant] Because they realize, wait, they're using, you know, they're trying to cheat and, and, and find a different way to block Micah Parsons. They're going to cause mismatches across the board. It's one of the beauty of what they do. And of course, he's a freak show. Uh, this guy right here, number 11, freak show.


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[Assistant] Well, I will throw the challenge flag on that. Completely. I mean, I really will. You know, listen, they did some good things early on, had some good drives, defense played great, you know, they set them up for some success in the first half for sure. You know, they were a pain in the butt, but I don't really know how he could come away and say it's conservative, right?


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[Assistant] He throws an interception. Bad throw too. Guy's open. Jarvis Landry's open. 15 yard out route, he's open. He throws it 3 or 4 yards behind the guy. You know? Now, even at 17 to 3, they continue to throw the football and do some things. But now, 24 to 6. It's second and 6.


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[Assistant] He pump fakes on a double move, holds the ball too long, almost fumbles. I mean, they called a double move. That's not not being aggressive. That's not not being conservative. And, you know, from all accounts, after you've thrown an interception of 17 to nothing, Kevin Stefanski had all the rights in the world to go, I'm gonna be conservative here. He did not do that.


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[Assistant] So that's where I look at it as a little bit of BS to say that, alright. You know, 24 to 9, you know, came out throwing on a first and 10 to people's Jones. First and 10, 13 yard gain. Like, that's not being


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[Assistant] Conservative. Right. Followed by two, three more throws right after it.


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[Assistant] Four more throws, right after it. Right? So that's where I don't get that. That was that drive. Then, yeaah, the same drive, he has a completion to Landry for 17 yards. It got them down there. Uhm, so, I, that, and I think that's where they didn't get the field goal. They miss a field goal at 24-9.


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[Assistant] Baltimore gets, goes down, scores a touchdown, makes it 24 to 15.


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[Assistant] When people just say something, we just go, oh, that must be, hey, they got conservative, let's run with that. Right. And I want to go, no, challenge flag, I just watched the game back.


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[Assistant] It wasn't conservative at all. In fact, it was fairly aggressive, I would say, for the circumstance they were


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[Assistant] Yeah, he took today. Him, Baker as well. So I mean, they're, they got COVID big time. A few offensive linemen, Austin Hooper. They're playing a Saturday game this week against the Raiders. Big game for both teams still. Raiders are still in this thing. They're not out of it yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, this'll be big if some of those guys can't get back and, you know, the Saturday game certainly hurts them because it lessens their chance of getting those two negative tests.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's insane what he does. I mean, first off, he's insane. And it's not even like the most special play in the world or anything of that. The Giants are playing cover 2. You got Cook on the shallow cross.


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[Assistant] Uh, this receiver's gonna run like a corner route and you got Palmer just right down the middle and it's not Tampa too, it's a true cover too. So these guys are looking for crossers or shorter routes. They're not gonna have that guy running down the middle of the field. And it's a little bit of like what we saw last week against Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, little pressure. Wait, I don't need to just stand there and be a robot in the pocket. Let me get out because I got great movement ability. And he sets up from his own 33, 34 yard line.


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[Assistant] And, I mean, come on. Are you kidding me? 65 yard throw. On the money to Guyton. I said it was Palmer, excuse me. On the money. And yeaah, they're in a tough spot here. You know, again, this safety down here was worried about this corner route.


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[Assistant] Alright, or that's the corner at this point. The safety was worried about this corner route originally. He wanted the backside safety to come help him.


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[Assistant] Like, they're trying to be, they're trying to take away a lot. Now, again, I don't think it's Tampa2. If it's Tampa2, then Crowder, Tay Crowder is completely wrong, and that's his mess up.


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[Assistant] But, you know, again, when you watch film, you gotta take evidence of other things too. The safety over here...


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[Assistant] When he sees this out breaking route, he recognizes that Guyton's running up the middle. He's calling for Logan Ryan to get over. He is, and you're just going to have to take my word for it because you can't see it here. But they're trying to


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[Assistant] Take away crossers, end cut behind it, right, by not playing the Tampa 2, because we showed earlier, Tampa 2, that's how Cincinnati kind of screwed over the 49ers, is those end cuts. So they're trying to take that away.


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[Assistant] And as you see here, he's going down the middle of the field and I want to see if he might get it.


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[Assistant] Alright, I want you to watch. Look, look, right there. See that? See that little, the little point here? I believe that's Xavier McKinney here, number 29, out here. He's in a point to Logan Rygan because he's got to get over there to try to stop this. It's not an easy ask. It's not an easy ask. And you might go, why? Because if this guy went straight, he's gone.


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[Assistant] So he's gotta respect this a little bit and he's trying to read him and read the quarterback eyes and demeanor all at the same time. He's in a tough spot. This is kind of a crack the code type of play, right? And you see there, it's just, it's too late reacting and it's just an unbelievable throw.


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[Assistant] Stafford, which we'll see in a minute. Stafford in a minute, Mahomes, Allen, Rogers, Wilson.


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[Assistant] I'd probably put that, that's about the class of it right there. Yeah, I mean, Brady can launch it that far. I do, now he doesn't get out of the pocket and do those type of things anymore. You know, that's never been his game, but man, Brady can still launch it, I'll give him that for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I think they got back to who they were over the last few weeks, you know.


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[Assistant] One, they weren't, they didn't screw the game up early on in the game to take them out of their game plan.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, we, we saw the Titans game, the 49ers game. I mean, they had early turnovers and interceptions that just was like, okay, now you're down 14 nothing. I mean, you can't be patient with the run.


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[Assistant] You know, these last two games against Jacksonville in Arizona, they've been able to get underneath the center and run the football more and do that. So it's made them a better team. And you know, their stars showed up in the game the other night. Stars showed up. You're built on stars, your stars gotta show up. They gotta play like stars. And they did that. Donald was awesome. Floyd was awesome. Beckham, Cooper, Cupp.


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[Assistant] Van Jefferson and Stafford are awesome. And hey, this is, I feel like we show this play like every other week. It's post over the top.


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[Assistant] You know, set up and launch it, okay? And what happens here is Thompson, number 34, he gets a little too obsessed.


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[Assistant] With Odell Beckham Jr. coming across, who had a few catches already in the game, and he paused for a second, and it caused issues. It really can. So here's Stafford, play action fake.


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[Assistant] Alright, and you could see again, I mean, hey, this is at his own 40, right? And his ability again, just to like kind of flip his hips here as he comes around, flip the hips and just absolutely like uncork it all in one motion. And I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] Thompson, cause he paused here, is running on a straight line this way. And Stafford's gonna throw the ball over here.


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[Assistant] He's gonna run, throw the ball over there and that's where I want to show because I'm gonna go to the all 22 here so everybody can see it just a little bit better here. Alright, so here we go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he pulled him over there just a little bit. Alright, so, you see here, you watch him, his eyes are on Beckham. And they don't need to be. He needs to be going back here. You know, he's gotta get back here in this one, but he's watching Beckham.


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[Assistant] And what I think is really funny, I mean, and now he's in, you know, oh shit mode. And because he's running this way, the beauty is he lets the throw, allows Van Jefferson to not break his stride or adjust. He gets to kind of stay on the same plane.


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[Assistant] And the ball is absolutely on the money. Here's one other thing I like too.


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[Assistant] When the ball's like, look at Odell Beckham Jr. going across. Alright, watch this. The ball goes up, watch how quickly he throws up his hand here. He puts his hand up like right away, like he sees it and he's like, look at him, he's going, oh there's a touchdown. The ball's not even there yet.


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[Assistant] Still not there, still not there, but he knows that that safety paused a little bit. He was pretty open too. He was. He was open. They had him. Definitely. Hey, they run the ball, they get to their play action game. They're going to be dangerous and we know their drop back pass game can carry the load if that doesn't all work.


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[Assistant] This is Chris Sims Unbuttoned, presented by Under Armour. We always appreciate the sponsorship by Under Armour. I'm gonna try that reflecting hoodie on soon. Alright, we got $10 on the game on Thursday, so don't forget about that. Please subscribe, rate, review. Tomorrow PFTPM Chris Sims Unbuttoned Collaboration Picks Podcast.


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[Assistant] I'm kinda hot. We'll see if I can stay hot, alright? Paulie, you the man. Good to see ya. Thanks a lot.


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[Assistant] What? Nah, that might be too much red. Might be too much red. Although it is red and salmon. Yeah, it's a different red. It is. I haven't shown you this yet. I forgot I had this. Oh, here it comes. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Sims unbuttoned. On Chris Sims unbuttoned.


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[Assistant] I like that, that's my favorite one. If you're listening, you have no idea what just happened. I'm wearing the Chris Sims Unbuttoned logo that my wife made for me for Christmas.


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[Assistant] No problem. No, in all seriousness though, we talked to Pete about this, and we gotta get merch. We gotta get our merch game going. I know. So if you're listening to this, and Pete says we are working on it, if you're listening to this, comment in. Say, I would buy, I would buy a t-shirt, and put the price amount. Like, say I'd buy it for three bucks. So we know.


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[Assistant] I really like that was great and yeah, Kathleen did a great job with the shirt.


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[Assistant] Which you said to me many times, and I got like, that's cool, Chris thinks I'm the man, but now I know that you think everyone's the man. You're numb to it, you're numb to it. I'm numb to it. Okay. Uh, I'm not numb to this though, the reaction you got for your wide receiver rankings. Here we go. There was more reaction to this than your quarterback rankings. Yeaah, definitely. I mean the people went crazy, which is fine, we're okay with that.


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[Assistant] We're here to make a show that's entertaining. If you're watching on YouTube, here's the top five wide receiver rankings in case you didn't listen to the last podcast. Uh, Jameson Williams from Alabama one.


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[Assistant] Christian Watson, the riser from North Dakota State. Chris thinks he will continue to rise. He's number two. Alec Pierce.


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[Assistant] Your kind of wild card from Cincinnati at number 3. Right. Traylon Burks at 4. Drake London at 5. Yeaah. Alright, since you have released this top 5. Yeaah. And it's been out there. I know you texted with some coaches. Yeaah. Before you released this. Yeaah. But now that you've released it, what have you heard? What's the feedback? What are you feeling?


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[Assistant] So we got some questions on those five. We're going to get to those in just a second because some of the homies had legitimate concerns with maybe some of the things they've seen with these players or where you have them ranked. But you mentioned


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[Assistant] Jahan Dotson. So I want to get into some of your sleepers. Some players who maybe just missed the cut, but there were things that you liked about some of these guys. And I will say,


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[Assistant] It was like, that guy is not afraid of contact. Not a big guy. He's not. He's just below six feet. He is. Not afraid of contact.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you think there are a lot of receivers who you can see contributing to an offense, but not top 10, top 15 talent. They're in the 20 to 45 range. Yes. So it sounds like Jahan Dotson did not just miss the cup for you. I don't know if you talked about this with Paul, who just missed the cup. Well,


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[Assistant] The two Ohio State kids. Those were the, if you had to go, 6 and 7, it'd be both of those guys you think? Mmm, yeaah. I think, uhm, let me just-


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[Assistant] I freaking love Sky Moore. Sky Moore, Western Michigan, Jake Scanlon, what are your thoughts on Sky Moore? He seems very twitchy, jittery, and appears very physical. He can snatch the ball from the air really well despite his smaller size. Does he have what it takes to be a reliable player?


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[Assistant] What you mentioned there, a lot of people might think that Chris Olave can do some of those things. He can. He can. Uh, Goat Goat.


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[Assistant] And the second goat has two O's in it. Just note that. Boom. Goat. Goat.


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[Assistant] Do you see Chris Olave as more of a deep threat receiver like Deshaun Jackson or more of a weapon receiver like Deebo Samuel or Tyree Kale? Uhm, wait, read that one more time. Chris Olave, is he more Deshaun Jackson or more of like a weapon receiver like Deebo and Tyree?


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, so we got a bunch of other guys here. I'm just gonna say some names. And is there anyone that stands out to you? Yes. Of these remaining wide receivers? Please do. I like that guy. I think he can be elite in this. You got Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama. You got Kelvin Austin, Memphis.


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[Assistant] This goes on and on. So you think all three of those guys, there's things you've seen from those guys that, cause Calvin Austin, uh, from Memphis Thomas Gatz TV says, Calvin Austin seems to be slept on in this draft class, but he reminds me of a KJ Hamler who you loved coming out of Penn State.


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[Assistant] Strong and physical. But ultimately you're not willing to put him in the top five. Even though you like all those things about him, plays fast. You just think the body might be a... It didn't work. It didn't work.


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[Assistant] So no matter how good he is, no matter how fast he is, no matter how well he catches the ball, I'm just gonna take us into the draft room here. There are some GMs that are like, I love everything about him. I just don't think it'll work in the NFL.


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[Assistant] His size is like he's in the top, you know, bottom 2%. He's not big, he's small. He's 5'7", he's 1'70", so he's in the 1 percentile and 2 percentile quadrant for both of those. But, broad jump, 97 percentile.


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[Assistant] Uh, the shuttle, the 20 yard shuttle of that, 87th percentile. Vertical jump, 87, 40 yard dash, 96. So yeah. I mean, all his athletic ability.


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[Assistant] If he just grew like 5 inches, he'd be Calvin Johnson. He would be Calvin. He'd have to do more than that. He's got to do, I think, 9 inches to get Calvin Johnson. Maybe he's still got some in him. Alright, so I want to get to your, some reaction to your top 5 here. I want to get to, we had a lot of good questions on where they might fit, you know, can they be a number 1 receiver, where would that be, maybe a Devonte Adams replacement for some of these guys.


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[Assistant] John, John. Oh, John, I'm sorry. John, John Meche. I feel like he's a guy that was hired maybe a year ago and he's kind of fallen.


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[Assistant] Justin from Notre Dame is getting some love out there. David Bell from Purdue and George Pickens too. Kyle Jasper says, George Pickens assuming health looks like a top three receiver in the class in my opinion. I feel like he's being slept on because we haven't seen much of him this past year. Had a knee injury. I think did come back and play the last four games for George. A lot of people like that. So, and he was a guy that I, he burst on the scene as a freshman, I think.


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[Assistant] And didn't really, I mean, the injury of course, but wasn't like he wowed much after that, but the physical talent.


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[Assistant] That's right, you can't do that. You can't do that in the NFL. Basketball, you can do that. Alright, is there any other name out there you want to give some love to before we step away from your honorable mention?


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[Assistant] To your point, there are a lot of players who second, third, fourth round, you could get some value.


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[Assistant] Uh, JE Sports 1 mentioned that he has an Odell body. There are a lot of people that compare Garrett Wilson to Odell Beckham. You said you didn't get it. You know what I really do think it comes from?


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[Assistant] He snatches the ball out of the air and he does the, every once in a while when he breaks it free, he'll carry the ball in one hand. I really do believe that's what, I mean that does look similar to what Odell will do at times. Gabriel Shoemaker.


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[Assistant] And this is about your number one Jameson Williams as we kind of get into your top five reaction here before we kind of put some of these teams or players on teams, which we could do as we talk about the guys as well. No Garrett Wilson, he says. Question mark exclamation point. Both of them.


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[Assistant] Here's proof that Wilson is better than Williams. When they played on the same team, Wilson had 723 yards and 43 receptions and 6 touchdowns, and Williams had 154 yards, almost short changed him some yards there, and 9 receptions with 2 touchdowns. So, that's proof for you.


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[Assistant] Gabriel, you've been invited to watch film with Chris Simms. He said he would love to do it. Uh, UT Madden, uh, UT Madden, looks like he has watched some film. You mentioned Ohio State's success in the run game when discussing Garrett Wilson, which allowed him to see more one-on-one coverage. Why don't you use the same argument for Alabama?


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[Assistant] If you will, you will. We'll tell you. The homies will tell you. And you'll tell yourself that. So maybe the level of competition at Ohio State, uh, wasn't, wasn't great. Compared to Alabama. Compared to Alabama, what they're facing. I mean, they're on a different level. They really are. I mean, they were up against Michigan State, which is a pretty good football team, like by 35.


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[Assistant] He said last year you had questions about Trey Lance because his offense was not NFL realistic. Shouldn't Watson also have questions because he's playing in a very run heavy offense and they don't rely on him a lot.


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[Assistant] He can fly. He's fast, right? He's big. He's 6'4", 208. Um, there was something that was kind of interesting with players in that body type that I was listening to.


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[Assistant] If they're not really physical, he's big, he's not really physical, right? Luckily for him, he's fast, but I guess if there's a knock on his game, it's that he's not, he doesn't play 6-4. No, well,


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[Assistant] Christian Watson. You do hear a lot of people talk about his boom bus. Some people say, hey,


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[Assistant] He could be the top three to one receiver in this class when it's all said and done. I won't be shocked, right? It's just how much do you believe he'll get up to that potential? How much do you believe that the level of competition wasn't what was causing Christian Watson? Those are hard. I know. But there are people who see it.


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[Assistant] He's a sleeper for a few people. Alec Pierce. Yeaah. And they see the same things that you saw. Yeaah. His quickness and his ability to catch in, in tough situations. Uhm, but there's also going to be a lot of pushback for that deep sleeper. Yeaah. Beam Elliott says Pierce number three.


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[Assistant] Come on, Sims. That's like when you said JV and Hawkins was ahead of Najee. Man, so when you make a bold pick, everyone brings out your, uh, your worst hits.


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[Assistant] In an eye roll, on the next sleeper, and I will say this to defend you two, it's like we talk about this, about the draft every year, and the consensus top five, and you know, by the end of the draft season, we're like, ah, draft's a crap shoot, you know, we look back on it, the years pass, and we're like, oh wow, we really screwed that one up.


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[Assistant] But yet somehow every year, it's like, if you don't have kind of the same top five as everyone else.


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[Assistant] It's like you're clickbait or you're just doing it to get attention. We all know that a year from now, looking back, like I look back at 2019, the consensus rankings for wide receivers and


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[Assistant] Uh, Nikhil Harry was third. He was like, everyone was like, yeah, he's third. So if you didn't have him in your top five, you're kind of your click bait. And I didn't have him top five. So Debo Samuel was like sixth consensus rankings that year. Terry McLaurin was 11th.


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[Assistant] Hunter Renfro was 22nd in the consensus rankings. Deontay Johnson was 31st in the consensus rankings. Insane, insane. And so it's like you have all these players that we know every year are


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[Assistant] Rated too low right now who are going to surprise on Sundays, but for some reason we can't accept the fact that we're making a projection that we think we might know who those players are going


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[Assistant] Uh, Traylon Berks, he got more support. There are more people who see his ability to be like a Debo. Bigger, thicker guy. Yeah. Uh, Behalil 44 says, let's say Berks was more of a refined route runner.


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[Assistant] What do you have moved up on your rankings given his skill set? Do you have a best fit for your top five? So let's start with that first part of that question. Like if he was more refined in route running, I mean, where would he be?


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[Assistant] It's funny you mentioned T Higgins because we got a question from Kofi Eason that says, will the performances of T Higgins help Drake London in the draft process? Well, I think so.


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[Assistant] I believe T Higgins was your number five ranked receiver when you were doing him. You probably like him as number five better than Drake London. I think so.


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[Assistant] Because we got a question from partialbrant who says, would you say that the top five or six guys this year are all very, uh, very close talent wise? So if you had to put them into, into tiers, you're top five.


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[Assistant] Andre Brown Jr. says, we often see less explosive athletes have a lot of success. How do we account for these guys like Cooper Cup, Hunter Renfro, Hopkins, Evans, Thomas? They're all guys who ran over 4'5 in the 49th. I believe Debo might have run over 4'5 in the 49th.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Pete checked. He did some research. Yeah, was I right? Oh, it was 453. Okay, I was wrong. For Mike Evans. So, Andre Brown Jr., you were correct. You were correct, Andre Brown. Way to go. But the size. But the size. Two-thirty, six-five, two-thirty. Yes. So that's, that's pretty solid. Human being. Uhm, the next one kinda, the value of wide receivers. I like this one. Jacob Woolsey.


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[Assistant] Says, in the current NFL, don't you think wide receivers are a dime a dozen? Defenses are limited in what they can do, and it's easier to scheme a wide receiver open. I understand wide receivers are important, but if I were a GM, I would value them later in the draft. So that's interesting.


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[Assistant] Do you look at wide receivers at times like a running back now that there are so many good ones out there you can wait?


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[Assistant] Our friends over at points bet actually have a bet.


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[Assistant] With, uh, this question, will there be over or under five and a half wide receivers drafted in round number one? If Chris Sims was the GM of every team, there would be fewer than five and a half, right? You think there are talent wise, how many first round wide receivers talent wise? Oh, about five maybe.


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[Assistant] You think that's the perfect spot for some of these teams to say, hey, let's get one of these guys that we've fallen in love with.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what are they gonna do? I don't know if we have a question specific on... Oh yeah, yeah. Next Devante, sorry. Uhm, so you're going... I'm going over. Over. Yeah. I don't know where I'm gonna go there.


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[Assistant] Okay, that one's pending. We're gonna wait for you to look at the other position, the other position groups out there too, because you want a little bit more information.


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[Assistant] You can go over or under on this bet homies out there and know that at one point Chris


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[Assistant] You, me, Pete, Matt, Kristen. Many, many, many, many more people that make this show possible. And the homies out there who have a question on Devante Adams. That's where I wanted to go. Yeah, cool. The next one, because you were talking about, uh, what are they going to do? They need a receiver. They need three of them. This is, looks like Ringo number four, love the pod, et cetera, et cetera. Thank you. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Is there a receiver in this draft that could replicate or come close to a receiver like Devonte Adams in the right system? I just think of Rogers mostly riding solo again this year. So what are the Packers going to do and can any of these receivers, maybe one or two, fill that need?


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[Assistant] Do you think they're gonna do that? Because, I mean, they haven't drafted a wide receiver in so long. It seems like they have to. But, who knows?


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[Assistant] I think this is what Aaron Rodgers wants. He wants to prove to everyone, I don't need receivers. I don't even need a coach. I don't need fans. I don't need anyone! I can do it. I can do it.


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[Assistant] I can do it myself. If you take a look, if you're watching on YouTube right here, rookies with Aaron Rogers since, uh, 2008. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm talking about. Here you go. MVS with 584 yards. Even yeah, even Devonte Adams is rookie year in 2014, just 446. So he doesn't trust him right away. No.


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[Assistant] It seems almost impossible they wouldn't, but who knows. But I do kind of want to talk about that, that rookie wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Uh, discussion leads me to the rookies from last year, and there were a couple questions on, on those guys. Yeah, cool.


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[Assistant] One from SergioFeral2 about Elijah Moore. And it says that you have not mentioned Elijah Moore really at all. He seemed to be one of the best rookie wide receivers. Was. Was Chris too low on him last year. So you were notably lower on Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] Uh, he got drafted by the Jets early in the second round.


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[Assistant] He's going to be one of the best performing wide receivers in this draft class. So Jim Dye says, love the pod guys. Which wide receiver from last year's draft class do you expect to have the biggest jump in production in 2022 and also


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[Assistant] He says, I can confirm that we say bangles in North Jersey. Way to go Jim Dye, I like it. That's the first time I've heard that, that you're actually doing it the way everyone else does it.


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[Assistant] Well, you had in your top five, you had Kidarius Tony, who wasn't bad, he got hurt. That was part of the problem with him, though. People saw, like, he might get hurt. He was hurt in college. And Terrace Marshall, you were high on too.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's end this Q&A session with the homies. Done very well so far. Uh, with some specific teams. I'm sure every...


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[Assistant] Homie out there would like to hear you talk about which wide receiver would work well on their team, but we got just a couple teams here that we'll finish with and this question comes from Alex Weber. Says that Cardinals obviously need another wide receiver who would be a good option at 23 for them.


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[Assistant] Good fit with them. So this is more of like the fit. Yea. No, not your... Got Hopkins.


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[Assistant] Alright, what about your, your boy Blue, with the bills? Derek Rudolph says, which receiver do you see as the best fit in Buffalo? First of all, do you feel like that's a position of need for...


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[Assistant] But I think part of it is like, alright, they have the guy that everyone in the NFL wants, right, to utilize Deebo like they did last year, wide receiver, running back. So you might think like, okay, we've got that covered. We don't need another guy like that.


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[Assistant] But is that necessarily true? I mean, could you deploy? I mean, Kyle could think of ways to do it. Could you deploy another way? They know how to do it obviously already and get them the ball and get them in space. I mean, what's the worst thing if you had two debos on the field at the same time?


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[Assistant] How did you factor in Trey Lance? Because what we did see from him...


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[Assistant] What would you look at in a wide receiver if you knew that? The quarterback of the future for you is having some accuracy issues. Would you look for wide receivers that maybe adjust to poorly thrown balls a little more?


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[Assistant] You have to say that though because of NBC's relationship with Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] Last one. Yeah. The Colts. They got a new quarterback. He's been around the league quite some time. And Matt Ryan, Nick Balfour says, who is the best player to compliment a bigger wide receiver like Michael Pittman? Worth taking one at 42 or wait until day three. All right. So Colts.


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[Assistant] They want to win now, obviously. They got Matt Ryan. They got a team that they feel like can win now. You got a great offensive line. You got a good running back. You got Michael Pittman. You got a defense that was pretty good. First of all, his wide receiver, a place you're looking to upgrade.


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[Assistant] Player there who's in that 20 to 45 range at 40.


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[Assistant] I'll defend you to the end of time on Alec, on Alec Pierce, because he, he's gonna be on people's sleepers list, I think. And if you're on a sleepers list, that means that you think he can be top 5 or something like that.


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[Assistant] Well done homies, with all the questions. Well done Pete, by putting them all in there. Well done Kristen, by putting the graphic on our


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[Assistant] Video representation if you're watching on Peacock. Oh, Gabby. Gabby. Sorry, Gabby. Yeah, Gab. So, Kristen, thanks for nothing. Thanks for nothing. No. Thanks for keeping us moving, pushing the buttons, and, uh,


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[Assistant] On the air for an hour and less than an hour and a half.


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[Assistant] Just sitting down, starting looking at it, and I got a son that plays some college football. He dies in the draft. We both do.


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[Assistant] So just went down and went through it. I guess the big, the big guess in the first five was who was going to be first Stingley or Sauce Gardener. And, uh, when I got to Stingley, right, you know, that kind of made the other ones fall into place a little bit. So.


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[Assistant] You know, all the players and then, then you got the Michael Irvin and everything. Little kid growing up in my age, you were either a Steelers fan or a Cowboys fan pretty much. I grew up in Indiana. I didn't grow up in Chicago, but you were either a Steelers or a Cowboys fan and I've been a Cowboys fan. I've made sure my.


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[Assistant] I'm on the websites, uh, consistently. Yes. Yeah. Right. I don't spend a lot of money. I do it for a little bit of fun. Uh, I do make, I've had a pretty good run over the last couple months.


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[Assistant] Uhm, hitting a lot of the boosts, a lot of the different things with the, the promos and the boosts. I, I hit those often. Uhm, but I've gotten, I've gotten pretty lucky over the last couple of months. I've, I'm in the plus range.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'll tell you the one on my team that I think is gonna be better than shit one, the bears are terrible. Unfortunately, the bears are terrible. I think so. I'll take the under on the bears all day, all night. Yeah, right.


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[Assistant] Good, I don't know how you go against guys like Matt Staffers and MVP.


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[Assistant] Uhm, something like that. I know you don't win the Super Bowl two years in a row. It hasn't happened in what, 30 years or something. I think Tom Brady was the last one to do it. Yep.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know how you go against Stafford with all the players they got. They're adding players. I don't know how they can keep doing that, but they keep adding them.


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[Assistant] No, it's the key, it's the key. So we're going to do the mock draft today. So these teams will all draft their first round pick, invite them to the stadium, do the press conference, and they'll look at their legs and butt and go, oh no, we made a mistake.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was red pants last time to celebrate the end of, uh, the evaluation period for Chris Sims. And today, I got the red sweater and also the shirt that Pete got me. Detroit Rams with the combined ram and lion logo because today is a big day.


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[Assistant] Lions, you know, get two first round picks because of that trade. Yes. They made.


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[Assistant] With my other favorite team, the Matt Staffords and the Rams. So we've got the second pick in the draft. We've got the final pick of the first round, which could be very interesting on a couple of fronts. I'm excited for your, your team, your organization.


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[Assistant] So I'm excited for this mock draft. Okay. Because this is a, this is a different mock draft than any other mock draft out there. Cause it combines a couple of things. It does. You're very plugged in to the NFL. Right. So you know what these GMs from a lot of teams, what these coaches, what scouts are kind of saying. You're reading the tea leaves. Yeah. Um, and so you're, you're going to do a mock draft.


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[Assistant] That when you kinda have a feeling of where a team's gonna go, you're gonna pick that player


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[Assistant] Both of those were talked about, I think at one point, the slam dunk top ten players, top ten talents. You came out here and you said you had question marks about both of those guys, and now here we are just a few days before the draft, and there are doubts whether either one of those are gonna go in the top ten.


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[Assistant] Now, there could be some movement. I don't know if teams are going to be able to trade down because there's not necessarily those big slam dunk guys in the top 10. I would say no. I think you're right about that. You don't have any trades. I don't, no.


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[Assistant] Top 32 picks. Yep. The Chris Sims. Mock draft. And we'll start.


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[Assistant] And if people listen to your edge rushing rankings, you don't think that Aiden Hutchinson doesn't have a high ceiling. You think that in three or four or five years, he could be the best edge rusher in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Shake and shove? Shake and shove, or shake and bake? Shake and bake? Yea, right, something like that. A lot of shake and bake. And Aiden Hutchinson, who you think you have mocked as your number one pick in the NFL Draft. So, then for the Detroit Lions at number two, I mean, is it almost easy for them? I mean, do they just take the guy that's not there off the edge?


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[Assistant] That would be tough to go edge there too if you got the number three overall pick in the draft and you end up with the third best edge rusher or edge player at his position.


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[Assistant] I think he's the best, but that's unlikely. So you got the tackle, Iquanu from NC State going three, no corner there. Do we go defensive back for the Jets at four?


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[Assistant] You say that was easy, but over at nflmockdraftdatabase.com they do great work. They kind of compile all the different mock drafts that are out there. And there are 7 million mock drafts out there. I think we're going to make 7 million in one here today. Uhm, but they, they accumulate all of them and say, alright, who's the consensus pick? Which one has, you know, appears here more often than not. They got Kavon Thibodeau at four there.


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[Assistant] We don't see Kavon Thibodeau here at four for you. Your feelings on him have been made.


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[Assistant] Fellow noted Giants fan, along with yourself, Pete Demalemilaitis, thanks you for putting your best offensive tackle to your favorite team.


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[Assistant] And now you're putting him on your favorite team again. I know, look at me. No, you are higher on him than most other people, and I think he's mocked to go maybe somewhere, you know, mid-first round. Right. Uhm, but you feel like teams are wise to Jermaine Johnson and what he did.


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[Assistant] And I always think it's funny too because people are like, well, he's more of a 15 pick than a 7 pick. And the team that's picking 7 is like, well, we don't pick at 15 and we like the guy. So what are we supposed to do?


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[Assistant] Atlanta's a team that might trade a bit in the first round here. We got their pick at number 8 on the clock.


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[Assistant] If you're watching the draft live on Thursday, we're probably two and a half hours, three hours into the program.


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[Assistant] Uh, do we have a recap of the one through eight? Chris Sims here to take a little pause to recap.


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[Assistant] Aiden Hutchinson going number one off the board of the Jaguars. Uh, even though the rumors out there that it might be Walker, it might be a tackle, who knows. Uh, there's your top eight. And interestingly enough, you got two Georgia players in the top eight. That team was stacked. It seemed like every position group we went through, there's one or two Georgia guys.


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[Assistant] We're worthy of discussion as we go now to number nine, the Seattle Seahawks on the clock.


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[Assistant] So, we go to 10 now. The Jets have another pick. You had them taking Sauce Gardener, the corner at 4. What do you see them doing at 10? Gosh, why did the Jets...


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[Assistant] That's the top 10 right there. And if Chris is exactly right with his top 10.


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[Assistant] Jake Croucher from Points Bet will give you $100,000. Actually, I think Chris is probably ineligible, right? Darn it. Yeah, Chris might be ineligible. Why? It shouldn't be. It should be eligible. If you out there are listening to this and look at that, look at that picture of Chris there.


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[Assistant] With a tie in the cheeks, the high cheekbones, and the haircut. Perfectly groomed. Professional. MVC picture this year. But if you take Chris's pics, and they are exactly right, you can win.


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[Assistant] After opting in, you go over to the 2022 draft betting markets. And so you're going to see those individual bet markets for each picks, one through 10 there, Chris.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that's Points Bet trying to give away free money. We're moving on in our mock draft now. Number 11, the Washington Commanders. That does not roll off the tongue.


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[Assistant] Then it leads to the Minnesota Vikings at number 12, who took a couple of players that you really liked last year, Darasaw and Kellen Mann, the quarterback. Yes, no doubt. So who do you have them taking in 2020?


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[Assistant] You're lower on Kayvon Thibodeau. This is lower than where most people have him. Right. Although this is higher than I thought he would be in your Mock Trap.


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[Assistant] So the Vikings at 12, taking the edge player Kayvon Thibodeau at 13. We got Houston's second pick in the draft. You had him taking Iki Ikuanu with the number third pick, an offensive tackle. What do you have them looking at in their 13th pick?


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[Assistant] So no Drake London there, the wide receiver out of USC. Perhaps you give Lamar Jackson some help with a wide receiver at 14.


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[Assistant] That would be 5 off the board in the first 14 picks if it goes perfectly as Chris Simms says it's gonna go here. 15. The Eagles. On the clock. Booyah.


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[Assistant] Eagles, I got going receiver here. Again. I do. Again. Reminiscent of my Detroit Lions back in the day of going Roy Williams and Mike Williams and Calvin, uh, uh, Roger, or uh, not Calvin Johnson. Well, Calvin Johnson was up there and then Charles Rogers. Charles Rogers.


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[Assistant] Your second wide receiver off the board after Jameson Williams, you had going number 10 to the Jets. It's Drake London, 15 to the Eagles, 16 midway point of the first round. That's the New Orleans Saints now on the clock.


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[Assistant] Our friends over at Points Bet say that the New Orleans Saints currently have the 7th best odds of winning the NFC. So, a fringe playoff team. A fringe playoff team. The last team in. The last team is. Still win. That window is now. Sean Payton will be like midway through the year, he'll be like, I'm gonna go back. That team can still win. I didn't think they could still win. I'm gonna go back.


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[Assistant] So nine through 16, we've reached the midway point of the first round. There you see another Georgia D lineman, Devontae Wyatt going off the board there at nine. Got a couple more edge guys, very deep in edge and our second wide receiver for safety going off the board. Now we go to 17.


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[Assistant] Philadelphia had that 15th pick. You gave them another wide receiver in Drake, London. They're back on the clock at 18. Do they take another wide receiver? No, they don't.


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[Assistant] So you have the Eagles going wide receiver corner with their two picks in the middle of the first round. Saints you had going tackle and Raymond from central Michigan. Saints back on the clock at number 19 overall. And you have them taking. Now it's time to go receiver.


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[Assistant] Many people's number one, nah, I wouldn't say many people's. You saw him as like a number one wide receiver.


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[Assistant] But you didn't have him in your top five, but you do have him in the first round.


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[Assistant] We have a chance right here at 19 with New Orleans with another pick. And they're in win now mode, you mentioned it though. But Pittsburgh at 20, we've heard quarterback, quarterback, quarterback from Pittsburgh for so long. Is there a chance a team trades up to 19 to get ahead of Pittsburgh and get the quarterback they want? First quarterback off the board.


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[Assistant] We're gonna be getting the quarterback of the future there for the Steelers at 21. The New England Patriots got what they hope is the quarterback of the future last year in Mack Jones. They're on the clock at 21. Yeah, and I'm gonna go tackle here.


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[Assistant] Here we go! Their need is wide receiver because their best wide receiver is actually Jordan Love, who's their backup quarterback. I don't know if a lot of people know that.


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[Assistant] I'm just having fun. And he'll come in with a chip on his shoulder because he went late. They like that. They're quarterbacks right now. Kyler Murray has a chip on his shoulder. Uhm, Pete has predicted that of all your picks in your mock draft, this one will be the one that gets the most pushback.


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[Assistant] Three quarters of the way through now. Pick 24. The Cowboys have just made their selection, shoring up that offensive line, protecting Dak Prescott a little bit more, so.


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[Assistant] A recap of 17 through 24. You got the big guy from Yukon, defensive tackle. You got a corner in there. You got a couple wide receivers in Olave and Wilson, the two Ohio State kids. And you got the Steelers taking Malik Willis, the first quarterback off the board at 20. 25! The Buffalo Bills do not need a quarterback. No, they don't.


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[Assistant] So Titans shoring up that offensive line, opening up some holes for Derrick Henry, giving some time for Ryan Tannehill. The Buccaneers! They've got a pretty complete team. A lot of veterans everywhere. They're on the clock at 26.


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[Assistant] So you loved him, he didn't make your top 5. No. And does he make your first round mock draft? No, he did not.


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[Assistant] The corner is off the board at 27-28. Green Bay Packers back on the board. You have them taking Chris Olave with a 22nd overall pick. Do they address defense with 28?


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[Assistant] Daxton Hill, so you got him going safety after going with receiver. Another team that a lot of people think are going to take a receiver in this very deep receiver class is the Chiefs. And they're on the clock at 29 and 30. So back to back here for Kansas City.


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[Assistant] But there is something to that, right? Andy Reid's built up, obviously, a lot of cache, where you can take maybe more risks. And if you're wrong, you're wrong, you're not going to get fired over it. So, Christian Watson, one of your favorite receivers in the draft, 29th, 30th, what do they do there?


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[Assistant] Alright, so two more picks to go here in the first round. You got the Bengals, and then you got my Detroit Lions back on the clock. But let's go with the Cincinnati Bengals at 31. They're one pick in the first round.


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[Assistant] What a transformation that would be for them, too. Bengals, we were talking about a couple years ago, one of the worst offensive lines in football, couldn't protect Jobar. Right. I mean, had trouble with it last year, too. Yeah, yeah, right. Um, shoring up that. Oh, no doubt.


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[Assistant] I'm watching you sell me prematurely unzipped my t-shirt. We got the Detroit Rams right here. Final pick of the draft for uh, for trading away Matt Stafford. The pick couldn't have been any worse, right? They got the worst possible pick they could. Yes. In the trade with the Rams. They got one next year too, so we'll see what happens. Can he pick it? Can he pick at the quarterback? Yes. Can he pick it?


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[Assistant] Two years from now over, over Jared Goff. Definitely. 100%.


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[Assistant] I choked under the pressure of time. It was just the way to do it. So here's a recap if you're watching on, uh, on YouTube or if you're watching on Peacock. The 1 through 32 here. Uhm, and maybe, uhm, Pete, maybe we can save all the, buy the numbers for Wednesday. You wanna do that?


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[Assistant] We'll save the, kinda like, we'll go position by position, we'll see how deep some of these, how many offensive linemen you had, cause you did have a lot taken in this.


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[Assistant] You got plenty more to talk about on Wednesday with Paul and more news may happen. No doubt about it.


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[Assistant] He is back. He's not wearing his shirt unless he has an orange one today. Nope. Alright, not cool. We haven't gone past the two shirts that, uhm, his wife's made yet, but we're on the way. That's two more than you have. You got the ball rolling. I know, like, you would think, again, very awkward that


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[Assistant] You have the shirts, and like, not even one's been offered to me yet. Not even one's been offered. You're on the show, Chris Sims unbuttoned. I am Chris Sims!


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[Assistant] Sometimes I'm a large, sometimes a large tall, sometimes I'm an extra large. And then every now and then I'm a double X. Wow. I mean, but it's rare. I don't know. It's hard. That's like holiday season. Doesn't it feel like it's changed in the last 10 years? Like I feel like I was when I was playing in the NFL. Yeah. And that like I was an extra large.


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[Assistant] But I did, I had a hard time transitioning for a while, finding like casual shirts and things like that, because everything was like wide and then...


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[Assistant] It didn't fit the belly button test, you know what that is, right? You raise your arms. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I'm wearing an extra large, and it's like a dress on me, but when I raise my arms, you can see my belly button. Like, so it was short, it wasn't cool either, so it was like, there was definitely an issue there for a while.


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[Assistant] Right. Michael Jordan had the whole baggy thing going for all of us. So it went like Michael Jordan baggy shorts. And it went to like the fab buy baggy shorts. We were like, those aren't shorts. Those are pants that we just cut off a few inches from. And you're right. T-shirts. And I look back at high school, early college. I'm wearing like the tall tees.


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[Assistant] The suits I had in my early NFL career, the money I f***ing wasted on suits that I can never wear again. Yes. Oh my gosh. What was I thinking? Why did I think I was going to be part of MC Hammer's background dancers? I don't know what I thought. You weren't? No I was not. You never got that opportunity. They never needed me there. They never needed me. My suits, they were ready. They were ready for MC Hammer.


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[Assistant] Yes, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about that, but the way the league's set up, the amount of freaky receivers we have in the NFL, I think in the history of the league is at an all-time high right now.


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[Assistant] You know, along with, of course, offenses have expanded into another stratosphere the last 10, 15 years with the different formations and movements and things like that.


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[Assistant] And to where I think even a guy like Tom Brady can go, man, offense when I first got in the league is nothing like it is now. There are just so many ways to do things on that side of the ball. And that's where.


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[Assistant] The defense comes into play and I just, you know, again, I think you, you look at the top teams in football over the last few years.


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[Assistant] And I'm just kind of, this is kind of a quick thought, but I always had this general thought. I mean, secondaries are usually pretty top-notch. I mean, you can certainly go to this year's Super Bowl and go top-notch secondaries there. 49 are secondary, okay, they're not as built on that as compared to maybe their pass rush.


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[Assistant] But you get in the years past with that. The Patriots, of course we know their secondaries were very special. Uhm, who am I missing there? Oh, the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's changed a whole lot for me. I mean, first off, a corner, there's, there's a, I think this, that, speaking to the point we just talked about with offenses, receivers, there's the offenses, the way they move the guys, the rules.


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[Assistant] The receivers themselves, as good as ever before, freaky, all shapes and sizes, right? It's, well, we're playing Mike Evans one week, the next week it's Jamar Chase, who's 5'11", and now it's Tyree Kill, and then it's, you know, AJ Green, so it's DK Metcalf, so it can be anything there. So, I think the first thing is,


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[Assistant] Wait, this guy's our route runner, this guy's our big guy, this guy's our speed guy. So defenses are now going, wait, so we're gonna match up that way a little bit too. New England to me is the team that started that conversation.


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[Assistant] But DB, for the first thing I'm always gonna look for, just right off the bat, I mean, you gotta have pure, great speed. Period.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, again, how, how can you cover Odell Beckham Jr. and the great receivers of the world who run 4-3 and think some guy running 4-5 is going to be able to run with them? That's, that's an issue. That doesn't make sense. So, you know, pure speed is always a thing I look at. Of course, the hips, the ability to change direction, stick your foot in the ground, play the ball. You know, I don't think that's a position.


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[Assistant] Cause I think your question was like, has this one changed a lot in the NFL? Safety we'll get to here a little later in the podcast where I'd go.


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[Assistant] That is a different expectation than maybe when we were growing up. It's a different position.


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[Assistant] I think the only thing that I would say is different is a little more specialized, a little bit more matchup oriented. Alright, we got a big corner, he'll play the big receiver. You know, we got small nickel guy, he'll play the slot receiver guy in there. And we'll try to do that the best we can. You're not going to be able to do that every play all the time, but I think there is more of that thought than there was in years past.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, there's a size question, but everything else is so freaking good, I can't deny it. Or...


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[Assistant] You know, and, and we'll go through it, but, but yes, I tried to do my best to pick guys that.


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[Assistant] We're foolproof. They're gonna work in any defensive system. It's not so much about.


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[Assistant] The matchup or like we talked about, oh, this guy can only go with big guys. I'll give my two cents on who they think they should cover or what they match up well with. But I tried to pick all around the best corners of the draft. I didn't just go, oh, this guy's so good at zone. I'm going to take him. I tried to encompass all of it here. Real quick. Overall, top heavy, deep.


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[Assistant] How is this corner back? The corner back class, first off, I thought is good. I thought it was overrated or at least not as good as I expected going into it. First off, I thought there was some


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of fast times, we know. Uhm, I didn't think there was a ton of guys that played to that fast time. I think the overall thing I would take to say this from the corners.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of guys that are NFL worthy. There was very few that I feel like had it all. Even here in my top five, we're gonna get into a few where we're gonna go,


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[Assistant] There, this is awesome, this is awesome, this is awesome, but there's this area that I just don't love. You know, there was very few clean prospects, I guess, is that what I want to say there? Sure, sure. How many did you look at, you think? Uhm, I mean, I'm gonna say...


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[Assistant] I think it was safeties, I was around 20. Oof. And then corners, I think I'm around the same range. Wow. Hold on, I can kinda give a better quick look right here. So this is what you do now? It is what I do.


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[Assistant] First off, again, here's a guy that I go, got everything. All right, but there's a problem. He is, he's 5'8", he's 1'74".


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[Assistant] There's a little bit of an issue there. That's a glaring thing. It's a, you know, a size league. We talk about it all the time. Alright, but what I'm also saying, with this day and age, the way we are in the NFL, the majority of defensive personnel sets are nickel defenses. The nickel guys on the field more times than not.


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[Assistant] Marcus Jones to me, it's just, it's too elite covering.


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[Assistant] In the slot position for me not to take it. Let alone, I think there's some value to him outside. He remind me of Jason Verrett.


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[Assistant] Right? Remember Jason Verrett, the first round pick? He'd been injured, right? There's those issues. Uh, you could say Bryce Callahan, the, the, one of the top Nickelbacks who plays for the Denver Broncos. You know, he's one of those type of guys, except I would go,


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[Assistant] He's more explosive than a Bryce Callahan, who a lot of people would look at as one of the top Nickelbacks in all of football. He's, he's got, uhm,


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[Assistant] First off, here we go. You talk about ability to accelerate, put the foot in the ground, break on the ball. It was as good as anybody in the draft.


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[Assistant] The quicks are off the charts. He's made to cover, you know, the small jitterbug type of receiver who's going to be working the slot, right? Those guys. You know, Cooper Cup, that type of guy. Cup's big, he's a big slot, that's what makes him special.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean by that. The Edelman's of the world, the Isaiah McKenzie's, the Cole Beasley's, those type of guys where it's all about, you know, short area quickness, short area explosiveness. I'm gonna run here really fast. I'm gonna jam my foot in the ground and then run out really fast the other way. Houston's gonna be all, Marcus Jones is gonna be all over that stuff.


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[Assistant] So he's special that way, let alone Ahmed, let me just throw this in there too. The ball skills were probably the best ball skills that have any DB in the draft. He's like a receiver playing DB. It's as good a ball skills as I've seen.


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[Assistant] It's up there with Trayvon Diggs as far as how he plays the ball. Now 50-50s, things like that, yeaah, they're not going to be his cup of tea because he's not real big. But man, it's hard to find a play where you'd go, he's not in the guy's hip pocket. The guy might have caught it.


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[Assistant] But he's in his hip pocket and he's all over him, extremely twitchy. And I think, you know, it added a little value to me too. Cause there were some guys here all in the running for number five.


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[Assistant] You're right. Can he be one of those guys? Yea, you throw him in there, give him reverse every now and then on the offensive side of the ball. Yea, he probably has the ability to do that. He does. He's tough as hell.


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[Assistant] There's nothing on the film that you look at to go, he's 5'8", he's 1'74", he shies away from contact a little bit. That is not the case. Now he's got a hurt shoulder right now as we speak, right? That's, you know, in the process of being rehabilitated. That's gonna be the big question.


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[Assistant] You know, again, as far as what you see on film, there's nothing


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[Assistant] There for me to look at it and go, oh my gosh, just that top notch, whether it was mirroring guys off the line of scrimmage, you know, the ability to, to.


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[Assistant] To be physical at the line of scrimmage and then, you know, the speed to turn it on. You watch the film when they play SMU in grey, the wide receiver there.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's, he's with him the whole game. I would say his burst out of breaks and that is probably as good as anybody in the draft. So I think when you put all that together, the importance of the nickel position, the ability to return, uh, to me, that's why he's a baller.


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[Assistant] You know, his elite acceleration to me makes, you know, a guy that I'd look at to go somewhere in the second round.


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[Assistant] I don't know if there'll be a first round pick, I don't think that's gonna happen, but I think he goes somewhere in the second, and for me obviously is a top five corner in the strap.


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[Assistant] You know, I'd probably would have looked to move them up maybe another notch or two. It's a big question, the size thing. It is. Not only just the size of


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[Assistant] You know, hey, back shoulders, jump balls, but the size of like we already discussed, the, the injury.


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[Assistant] It's still, it's college football. I know everybody thinks, well, it's football, it's football. I, no, it's, it's just not the same animal. The running back that's gonna be running at him in the NFL, when he's gotta set the edge in the running game or all that, it is a different animal. So that's, it's a real question.


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[Assistant] Andrew Booth, Clemson. Okay. I love Andrew Booth. I love him.


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[Assistant] Want them on my team any day of the week. You know, first off, you said it, the size. Yeah, that's real. It is. You talk about like passion for the game and everything there too. Man off the charts. Good. Right. So I love that aspect too. All right. And I think here's the first thing I would say size is really good.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the, the acceleration, the straight head speed, Ahmed, when you turn that on, it absolutely blows you away, right? Like, I mean, he's a prototype looking DB.


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[Assistant] You know, has the ability and the size and the power where you go, oh, we can match him up against the bigger receivers in football. Not only the bigger receivers, but the true straight away like burners in the sport too. That's where he's amazing.


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[Assistant] Can really tackle. I mean, comes downhill and is a real...


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[Assistant] Force on the edge, whether it's wide receiver screens, runs, whatever, there's a passion and a toughness that he plays with.


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[Assistant] So all that is like phenomenal. We're talking about a guy really that I love and you know, I'm a sucker for speed and I go, I looked at him and went, Hey, I don't know. He didn't run the 40 at the combine, but to me, his straight speed looked as fast as anybody in this draft has a hamstring injury. So that's why he didn't work out at the combine. Thank you. So yes, like.


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[Assistant] Faster than Sauce Gardener on film, certainly, who ran 4-4-1.


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[Assistant] Faster than, you know, Trent McDuffie's of the world.


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[Assistant] Who ran 4-4 in change I believe at the combine too.


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[Assistant] But I think that was the first thing that jumped off to me. The big time acceleration, the read and react skills are off the charts. Like I talked about in those screens or if a ball was completed in front of them and the guy ran a six yard hitch route and he was playing off his ability to accelerate, make that tackle. That's as good as anybody there is. The feet are really good. All right. They're the feet are good. They're not great. The hips.


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[Assistant] Are not great. This is where he loses a little bit. So, right, like the size, the strength, the straightaway speed. You know, if you went from that, you'd go, ooh, this might be the top corner in the draft. But then when we started getting into, you know, you hear me use the phrase transition, right?


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[Assistant] He's in the back pedal, the guy's attacking him. And now he's got to plant his foot in the ground because the guy stopped and he ran an out route.


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[Assistant] Loses his feet way too much and stuff like that. Where you just go, what the hell, how, you know, come on, too many plays every game to where you go, there's a slip or okay, he thinks the receiver is going to run the straight go route and is his back to the sideline. Now the receiver runs the out route. He's going to stop and break out and turn the hips. That's where he loses a little bit.


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[Assistant] He's not the most fluid hips that way and he can be a little out of control with his footwork at times to where that's the thing that I question the most. He's made for that.


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[Assistant] Bigger, fast line, straight line type of receiver is gonna run with them. The guys that change direction really well, that'd be the matchup or the guy that would scare you a little bit.


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[Assistant] It is a little. I mean, you know me, I'm a man guy. Now they play some zones where it ends up being man a lot anyways. You know what I mean? Like you're playing quarters.


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[Assistant] And the guys out there, like you're, you got to, you only just go, well, coach just told me I got this back quarter. That guy stopped at 12 yards. I'm just going to keep going back because coach said to go back. So you get to see enough of that, but yes, it is a lot of zone. There's no question about that.


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[Assistant] But there's enough man, and like I said, enough snaps of...


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[Assistant] Okay. This is yeah, technically quarters, but it's kind of playing like man on the outside to where you get to see what you need, get to what you need to see. It was a little surprising with Clemson because I don't just gone in years, in years past. They've been such a man football team where I was surprised to see that.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know. Again, I didn't evaluate the rest of the crew there, what they were. And I can, though, speak to Andrew Booth and what he is.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe that was part of it too, a little bit. Just, hey, let's, let's not make him run around the field and change directions and do all that. Maybe he's not as good at that. Either way, like I said, I thought his acceleration, 0 to 60,


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[Assistant] I thought it was as far, as good as anybody in the draft at any position altogether. Strong and physical, got size and can flat out run. Got all the physical traits to be like special that way.


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[Assistant] Like there's definitely mechanical foot and hip stuff that needs to be worked on. All right.


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[Assistant] But like I hear at the end, I wrote Clemson put him in a lot of tough spots. He was never outclassed by anybody he played. I never saw a game where I went, oh, he just, he can't stay with this guy. Sure.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not, you know. So there you go. I, I obviously felt with my look at that there was plenty of man for me to feel comfortable with that. But he needs work in those areas as far as transition. The one thing I'll say at the end, you know, the way he tackles and how physical, he is one of those guys you can look down the line and go, he could probably play safety too.


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[Assistant] Because of the way he tackles and throws his body around. So really impressive player, a little bit of a straight liner, has passion, twitch, burst, straight ahead speed, all of that.


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[Assistant] When we're talking about backpedal or the receivers flip me around and things like that, that's where you want more. And you just go, I wish it was a little smoother. I wish he didn't slip so much or was out of control or, you know, he's not quite the same athlete as he is when he goes, wait, and now I can go straight. Here I go.


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[Assistant] First rounder? First round talent? I, I, you know, I, I do. I think he's a, I wrote, you know, at the end of this, I wrote end of first, early second. You know, I think he'd be a guy that I'd look at 25 to 45 somewhere in there, you know, is,


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[Assistant] Again, that size and that acceleration, and then I think you add the physicality to it, uh, there's not a lot of guys out there that have built that way or have those skills to go along with it.


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[Assistant] Yes, right. Well, either way, this guy can cover you like an armor dropped on you, okay? Armoire, alright?


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[Assistant] Like, like, first off, baseline, just right off. Alabama guy. They don't know if you said that. Alabama guy, right. Really only a one year starter. Okay, but.


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[Assistant] And nobody ever really gets open. You tell me what that translates to. I mean, again, I think if you just go baseline statement like that, I want to go...


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[Assistant] Why isn't this guy getting a little more talk or credit in the draft, you know, expert conversation a little bit? That's where I don't understand. Maybe just the one year, where's he been? Well, you know, that's cool, I get it, but he's been in Alabama where there's unbelievable players in front of you sometimes and you don't get to play that much.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean that's, that's where he's been. It's just, it's hard to crack the line up there.


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[Assistant] Length, incredible, looks like Trayvon Diggs in his uniform.


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[Assistant] To me, one of the things I wrote down at the very end of this is that it reminds me of Diggs, lesser's ball skills, but a better, pure cover guy.


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[Assistant] Like, he's a better pure cover corner than Trayvon Diggs was coming out.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that's the biggest thing too. And then you talk about the length. You know, him, Sauce Gardner, to me are the longest of the whole draft as far as that. His ability to get his hands on you with the line of scrimmage and kind of just push you to the sideline and eliminate you from the play is really good. If you're one of those guys that's


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[Assistant] Oh, he's quick at the line of scrimmage. He's given me 75 different moves. He's got incredible feet and patience and doesn't lose his technique and panic or bite on things that way. And then of course has the speed and everything there. But I think the most impressive thing, Ahmed,


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[Assistant] Is like, at 6'1", 197, you know, the things we talked about with Booth, that he wasn't good at, flipping the hips, putting his foot in the ground, no wasted steps, right? This kid is, it's, it's textbook.


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[Assistant] You would go put it on a reel. Here's a guy coming out of his back pedal, foot in the ground, breaking the wall, put it on a reel. Guy, oh, he gets flipped a little to his left, and then the guy breaks to his right.


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[Assistant] I don't really understand this, like I know this guy, like I see him on the, on the, on the radar screen of everybody, but


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[Assistant] He's not being, to me, valued at a high enough level. When you talk about the physical ability, the place where he's come from, the technique, you know he was coached really well. And then when you put it all together and go, wait, nobody really gets open against him the whole freaking year in any game? I don't know. To me, it's kind of a slam dunk, easy one here.


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[Assistant] Well, that, that, that, I mean, yeah, you're getting Alabama players and you're more times thinking they're well-schooled, we don't know how much more room there should be able to grow with technique and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] You know, I didn't look at it to be glaring to me. You didn't. I didn't say like, when he did it and opened and sprinted, I didn't say, oh wow, like I may have said with Booth and like, uh, the, the, the Jones from Houston.


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[Assistant] When they turn and go, it was like, oh, whoa, whoa, zero to 60 in three steps. No, this kid is not quite like that.


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[Assistant] He's not. But I didn't sit there and go, oh, he has a problem running with fast receivers in college football. No, I still saw plenty of plays too, where guys beat them down field by a step or two and the ball's in the air and he closes and knocks it down. You know, so again, these longer guys too, it's rare sometimes that they have that incredible elite acceleration, right?


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[Assistant] And, you know, we'll get into that here in a little bit, but to me, uhm, I thought this guy was a phenomenal football player. And yes, you know, one thing I wrote about him,


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[Assistant] You know, there's, there's not a lot that I just said, wow, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] But there also was nothing that I said I questioned. There was not one question mark. Never. And even though I might have not said wow in every area, I went, oh man, look at him stick his foot in the ground. That's really freaking good. Oh man, look at him burst on that ball. That was pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] Look at him play the ball in the air and knock it down. It's pretty damn good, right? So I wasn't saying, wow, best of this, best in this, but I kept going.


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[Assistant] Second in this, third in this, second in this, third in this, like, that's how I looked at it, and that's how I look at him, and I think when you couple that together with the size, uh, to me, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I look at him as a total first round corner for sure. Kind of sounds like a low floor guy or a high floor guy. High floor guy. High floor. Exactly right. To me, it's one of the safest bets out of all the corners I watch. Again, I don't know. Maybe he doesn't become the superstar because there's not the wow things like we talked about.


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[Assistant] But, I don't think you're gonna, no one's gonna bust with this pick. Not from anything I see there. And, you know too, he tackles, you know, he's an all around football player. And I know people say that with Bama too, right? I think people, still a little stuck on like the Dean Milner thing in Alabama.


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[Assistant] Where it's like, yeah, I know there was a top 10 pick that didn't work a corner once from Alabama.


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[Assistant] There's been plenty that have worked. I mean, Drake Kirkpatrick worked, right? Marlon Humphrey's working. Trayvon Diggs is working, you know? Jonathan, oh no, he's Auburn. I'm missing a few guys, I mean, but close enough. Minka Fitzpatrick in the secondary is working, right? I mean, they're talking about like,


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[Assistant] Guys that were going, are they the best in the sport of their position? Like, so it's working. So again, there's real ability there. And yes, they're coached to your point, but this kid's ready for prime time. Alright, so he's number three.


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[Assistant] Is Trent McDuffie from Washington? Man, I love Trent McDuffie. I don't know how, what's there not to like about Trent McDuffie? You know, again, another guy that I think you could legitimately, not want to say another guy, like we've talked about these a ton, where he's different from Marcus Jones is this guy can truly do both, right? I have no questions that this guy can play outside corner too.


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[Assistant] Really, probably the best, you know, all around mover in the draft.


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[Assistant] Let alone have the acceleration like booth, right? To where, and like, uh, uh, and like Marcus Jones out of Houston, to where I went, whoa.


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[Assistant] Like his ability to break on the ball, close on the ball, receivers running a shallow cross or a crossing route and his ability to accelerate and get right back in them in an even manner to where now he can make the play.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's life in the NFL. So he's got so much versatility as far as whether you want to work him inside or outside. He's got plenty of strength to play outside. He's a missile, alright? I mean, he's a missile.


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[Assistant] He's a missile, as far as tackling, alright, so for that department, like you don't have any concerns whether you got him a nickel, team runs a toss sweep, don't worry. Trent McDuffie's gonna go in there and throw his body around. You know, the acceleration, like I said, it pops. Out of the, out of, out of the, you know, out of brakes, out of transition, whatever.


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[Assistant] You know, so that's, that's, that's amazing. Come play off or jam. You know, he was really impressive off because of the acceleration to where he's got great instincts. He could kind of look at the quarterback and feel the receiver. Oh wait, here's a slam.


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[Assistant] Let me go and try to meet the ball at the receiver at the same time. And he can do that as good as anybody in the draft as far as that's concerned too. So that's where, you know, he is special.


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[Assistant] Top end speed is very good. Do I wish it was a hair faster? Okay. Right? But I think after that, I just look at him and here's another guy where, and I feel the same way about the next guy. There's just, the floor is very high. It really is. Ceiling's high too, uh, but I don't see any busts, busts, you know, potential here.


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[Assistant] He can press. He's not great at jamming. That's not what he is. He kind of just wants to stay with you and stay in your hip pocket. He's not looking to like, I'm going to overpower you. He knows who he is. I think that's what's really good. He has great feet. He trusts his speed.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, doesn't hold a lot. So all of that, I love that and, uh, takes great angles in pursuit or in coverage. I mean.


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[Assistant] He's, uh, I wrote, I mean, I mean, man, he's always in the wide receiver's hip pocket.


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[Assistant] He can do it off, and I wrote one of the things he reminds me of in a lot of ways. I thought he was like a little bit of a cleaner version of Christian Fulton who came out of LSU a few years ago. He was drafted by the Tennessee Titans late in the first round, right? To me, it was a very similar guy to that, except where I would go, he's probably a little more technically sound and might have a little bit better ability to accelerate.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I mean, if you're gonna choose and look at that group there and go, wait, okay, I got an equal route on one side and an equal route on the other side.


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[Assistant] Oh, sorry, Kyler Gordon I know is viewed as a guy that's up there in the draft rankings as well. I'm gonna choose him over McDuffie. I mean, definitely. I mean, McDuffie's in a different world athletically than Kyler Gordon. So, that's where, yeaah, he might have not got a lot of


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[Assistant] Opportunities to make plays and all that, but that's because he's good. And teams recognize that on film and just said, let's not mess with it.


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[Assistant] And I, I think that's, that's really what it is. But yeah, I mean, there's just, there's,


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[Assistant] You know, he's not made to guard big receivers like we talked about, but this is a guy that, like, the Cooper Cups of the world, he's, he's made for that. He really is. The medium to smaller receiver.


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[Assistant] That, that's where he's gonna be awesome. Yea, Mike Evans down the field is gonna be an issue for him. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, I probably actually feel better about that. To go, yeah, I mean, right? I mean, you know, again, it's, okay, maybe he's not as mature yet as a man or as a person.


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[Assistant] I would go, yeah, but he's also not as mature as a physical specimen yet. He's only going to get faster and stronger at 21.


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[Assistant] And the technique's phenomenal to go along with it, let alone I think you're getting a guy who can be a top notch starting outside corner. And really what I look at as a guy to go, he can be.


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[Assistant] Ronde Barbarish special nickel cover corner in the NFL for a long, long time.


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[Assistant] I'll make Buda Baker too, but he was a safety, okay? So I'm throwing him in the, but I don't know, I'm a little influenced by Buda Baker. It's, it's, he's of course one of the best safeties of football, but even coming out in college.


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[Assistant] It was, it was real and it was fun to watch because like in the NFL, he throws his body around and can care less about himself that way. So it's, so I would probably go Peter's one Buddha Baker too. And then I think McDuffie three.


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[Assistant] That's where I'd probably put him. Byron Murphy, four. Elijah Moldin would be five for me. So there you go. It's a good question though. I like that. I always like playing that game right there. So number two, Trent McDuffie.


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[Assistant] At least you're number one. Number two. I just wish he was a hair faster. If Trent McDuffie just had like a 438 next to his name, right, I'd go, oh my gosh, he's definitely going in the top 15 or 20. He really would. You know, now, I don't know, somewhere between 18 and 32, 20 and 32 is what I wrote down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think this could be a year where the corners go a little lower down in the round maybe than you don't see guys in the top ten. Maybe one.


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[Assistant] He's got a chance to be in the top 10. Sauce Gardener from Cincinnati. Yes, he's got a chance to be number one. Hands down. First, there's just not many people on earth like Sauce Gardener. I mean, I'm not even a fan of the big tall corner. Like, you know me, that's not my kind of cup of tea. But when you turn on and go, wait, the big tall corner who's skinny, who has feet


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[Assistant] Like a guy that's 5'8", 178. Okay, wait, I'm interested here all of a sudden. Oh, whoa. And then you start to go, whoa, okay. Yeah, the big tall corner who usually they don't have great.


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[Assistant] You know, acceleration or speed and it's so build up that you're like, well, yeah, by 70 yards, he can really run, but we need him to really run by like 10 and 20 yards. That's it again. Oh wait, this guy does that. Okay. Wait, all right. So wait, we got size, we got unbelievable jam at the line of scrimmage. We got sick, quick feet. I mean, quick as hell.


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[Assistant] And then you go, oh wait, and then the speed matches it? I, you know, again, I don't give a shit what my cup of tea is. He's my cup of tea if you're that. That, that, that signed me up.


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[Assistant] All right. So that's where I think I was impressed with him so much. I was not expecting to see somebody quite.


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[Assistant] Twitchy and explosive in short areas, that's that tall.


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[Assistant] I wish there was a hair better straight away acceleration, right? But that's like the only negative thing I can really look at. Tackling? Listen, that's another negative thing. He's not a great tackler. He won't put on earth a tackle. But he's gonna tackle when he has to. He's not like afraid to. The Alabama game was a big game. He made plenty of tackles in that game.


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[Assistant] It's a freaky, unique looking corner, Ahmed, that kinda just is, you know, kinda pops when you turn them on.


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[Assistant] No question, no question, you know, and you know, hey, they, they, they were a team, you know, that plays it all too, and plays a good amount of zone to where you get to see that as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah. I mean, I don't want my corners any other way than cocky. Like borderline on delusional cockiness. That's what a corner's supposed to be.


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[Assistant] Definitely, he has that kind of thing. You see his passion on the field too. You know, that was the one thing I really liked about him and Booth.


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[Assistant] Especially. It's not all talk. Yeah, you can tell it meant something. And even Armour Davis, it meant something to them. There was real excitement.


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[Assistant] There was real, like, get up or you didn't get this off of me, eat that, I shut you down. I, I, I love that. You gotta have that there. You know, so yeaah, I think when you look at all that stuff all together,


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[Assistant] Well, it just, to me it's kind of a no-brainer here on this one, this year.


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[Assistant] Do I wish his top end speed? Like, do I think he plays the 4-4-1? It's close. Like I said, I wasn't going, oh my gosh, his top end speed is so special. But it's plenty fast. And then, you know, like you said, it's the other areas that maybe make up for that speed that I wish we just had a little bit. But, you know, everything else, I mean,


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[Assistant] It's really incredible. He holds a hair a little much, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] He's going to be incredible in zone coverage as well. That's going to be the other thing too. He's got good feel for the game. You can tell that. You know, he's got a receiver, they're playing cover two. He's the cover two corner. He's got a mid-pointer receiver who runs a 20 yard out route and a five yard underneath route.


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[Assistant] He plays it just the right way, let alone with his length and then his like, his quick


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[Assistant] Twitchiness and the ability to just like, oh wait, I gotta hop over here and do this and like get a hand in the way. That to me is, is, it's, it's high level elite stuff there. So really, you're really looking at the guy again that


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[Assistant] He's going to be able to match up with all the big freaky receivers in football. You know, the Mike Evans agains the AJ greens, the Deandre Hopkins.


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[Assistant] He's made to stop those guys. This is where he is put on earth. Now, the Cooper Cups?


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[Assistant] You know, the OBJs, that's the one I'd worry about them a little bit. You know, again, a little. The change of direction. Wait, you had a run really fast this way, now stop and they'll run really fast the other way. That's what I was talking about. Like the acceleration, I think was the only thing I looked at to go, okay, that's not perfect. Other than that.


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[Assistant] Everybody else, everything else was pretty perfect for the guy at that length. I mean, freaky, freaky really. And you don't have a lot of guys that come along like that.


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[Assistant] I could. I definitely could see that being a, mmm.


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[Assistant] I gotta evaluate draft needs and team and things like that a little bit here as we go.


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[Assistant] I think of the Giants, you know, I know Bradbury, he's still there right there. Pete, am I wrong? They tried to...


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[Assistant] Trying to rest, were they trying to restructure or are they trying to restructure a Dory Jackson's contract a little bit? Right.


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[Assistant] So I could see them in the market here, and then depending on Bradberry and if they trade him or something like that, then maybe that's where Sauce Gardener, you know, jumps in the conversation, uh, for WinkMart.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just, there's, there's, he's a good player. He is very smooth. To me, it's...


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[Assistant] It's, it's just the pure physical ability, the raw physical ability.


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[Assistant] You know, the, I wrote some of the change of direction movement is less than, some of the side to side movements was less than, he was a horrible tackler, one on one, you know, he had the change of direction stuff was not good enough, and then the straight line speed, you know, was just good, not great.


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[Assistant] That was the big thing. And again, Kobe Brown's a good player. To me, I rode down third round corner. But those were just some of the reasons to me why he's not in the mix with some of those guys that are, you know, towards the top of the list. Speaking of not in the mix.


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[Assistant] There's, there's a chance for great potential here. A great, but, but like,


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[Assistant] If you're putting them on number one, it's just completely projection. I mean, complete...


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[Assistant] Projection. I don't know how anything on film over the last two seasons could tell you that that is the number one corner in the draft. They're going three years back. Which is stupid. So you're gonna go three years back and make a guy number one who's gotten, I would say worse since that point. And now has injury history.


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[Assistant] And when I turn on film, I see a lot of stuff where I go, yeaah, those are the smoothest hips I've ever seen in ever maybe ever.