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[Assistant] But the rest of that group is average, and I think if they can get after Purdy, I think that's going to be a problem for the 49ers.


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[Assistant] You bailed last year a bunch. Last week. He was bailing.


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[Assistant] What did the Saints have against them running the ball? They ran the ball, didn't they?


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[Assistant] Why don't you just go with a 10 point teaser and lay even more odds for yourself to give yourself a couple of winners.


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[Assistant] If you are who you are, with the exception of Tom Brady and maybe Kurt Warner at that position.


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[Assistant] How often do we see a guy who turns into a star from way back in the draft?


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[Assistant] Didn't Quest Watkins have a 91 yard catch against the Niners last year?


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[Assistant] You can always watch Young and the Restless on Paramount Plus too, which I'm a big fan of Young and the Restless.


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[Assistant] Yes, but there's no saying that he's going to be able to play like Patrick Mahomes just because he can walk off a podium and go straight.


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[Assistant] And, and talking with Brady Quinn yesterday, who played the position, uhm, he said,


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[Assistant] Your front foot have the ankle sprain than your back foot and the ability to push and throw it that way.


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[Assistant] And so I think it's a concern. I mean, look, everything he's done in his career has been off schedule. Not everything, but a lot of it.


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[Assistant] He's great at skipping up in the pocket and making throws down the field. And, um, surprisingly Jacksonville blitzed him less.


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[Assistant] And so it's gonna be a real challenge for him if he can't move. And I don't think just because you can walk off the podium and put your foot on the ground, it's the same as going sideline to sideline or side to side. So I, look, that's a three week injury normally.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's a tough kid. Give him all the credit in the world, uh, and there was no way he was even wanting to come out of that game.


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[Assistant] But he's not going to be the same quarterback no matter where he is in terms of walking off the podium.


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[Assistant] We won't know, that's the thing, you won't know. I don't think you know until he's on the field, right? Right, you won't know that. You gotta assume, and this is just my assumption, because I've watched enough of him on tape, that he, when he can move, he's a different guy.


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[Assistant] When you're defending, now Tyree kills not there, but somebody with speed.


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[Assistant] You, you know, your initial coverage when you play the Chiefs isn't necessarily ending that. But when he can't move, that ends it. I think that's an enormous difference as you're defending them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm going to take the Bengals too. I just think, you know, RJ, you talk about that Chiefs offensive line and in the middle of that line, they're outstanding, as good as anybody.


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[Assistant] The left tackle and the right tackle are just okay. And I think that's where, where they're going to be able to pressure him, particularly you're going to have to keep him in there, keep them contained. And I think that limits the offense. On the other side of the ball, you're right about the Cincinnati offensive line. Can they hold up again, whoever plays? And that's a big issue here, but Pearl gets the ball out so fast.


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[Assistant] He hasn't been over five catches in any of those other games. And in large part, Trey Flowers has done some good work on him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they've doubled them at times, but I think, you know, Trey Flowers is questionable. Isn't he for the game right now? He's listed as questionable with the hamstring, which he's the Kelsey cover guy.


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[Assistant] Since your guy, Quest Watkins, had a 91 yarder against him.


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[Assistant] Your first is your first. Alright, like you'll always remember your first, it'll be special. And remember, this is a-


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[Assistant] We're so starved for a Super Bowl, right? Like, you know, rich sports heavy town. And so it was like this explosion of energy. I was in Minnesota too. And you're right. Like that was the way it was, but this town is so sports nuts.


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[Assistant] It's Philadelphia. I kid you not. Now listen, we, I grew up in this town, so I grew up in South Philly and there used to be an Italian festival where they would grease the poles and you would try to climb the grease poles, right? Like just like in New York City, that was the whole thing.


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[Assistant] And during the World Series, Ron, singing and chanting and hugging, like, it's, brother, trust me, it's all love, and they're just into it.


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[Assistant] It's, it's so fascinating because there is like this whole language that we all have down here. So go birds is a salutation.


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[Assistant] So you'll see someone go birds, go birds. And like that'll happen in the convenience stores and airports and where you have it. It's, it's pretty wild. It's, it's, it's special too. I mean, I gotta tell you, well, I've covered sports for a long time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a salutation. It's a connection.


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[Assistant] It means something. Uhm, I, you know, I think it's special. I think it's...


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[Assistant] It's really, it's, it's beautiful in a lot of ways. I, I've covered sports for a long time. I was in New York, Chicago. I traveled around the country extensively, covered all kinds of games. I used to write 5,000 words Sunday pieces.


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[Assistant] And this story is so interesting. It's so fascinating. Uh, Jerri Longman in the New York Times wrote a little bit about it, which I thought he got it. He captured some of it really well, but it's, it's a beautiful thing, man. It's, it's organic. It's real. And they're just into it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it is. Uh, I know it is. I, I know Andy very, very well. I love Andy. I think Andy...


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[Assistant] He's an amazing guy, he's a tremendous coach.


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[Assistant] He was, he was saddened by the whole thing, like, you know, he felt like he...


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[Assistant] Like he wanted to keep going, man. He wanted to keep going. And the talent kind of got weary because when you get close but don't win,


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[Assistant] It just kind of, you know, exacerbated that situation. And so Jeffrey, who I think kind of succumbed to a little public pressure at that point, lets him go. I don't think Andy was all happy about that. I know that he's got a really good relationship.


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[Assistant] They have roots with the Eagles. I mean, Andy made his bones here. He came here at 39 years old and was a, as a quarterbacks coach from Green Bay and he carved out his career here, man. It's part of his blood.


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[Assistant] It is. In the storyline, I think it's a fascinating story, that piece of it. And you're right about Sirianni, because Sirianni, think about it.


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[Assistant] And Nick was talking about retelling that story of how Andy kind of officially let him go. And the interesting thing is that Nick...


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[Assistant] And Andy have a lot in common because, you know, you know, Nick started very young, like Andy did. And I think Jeffrey found his next Andy Reid. Like he was looking for it. And Doug was like, Doug's a good coach and he's extensive Andy.


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[Assistant] But I think Sirianni is a little bit more like Andy than Doug is. Do you remember Doug played and I, I do, I think Sirianni and Andy, they're really cerebral when it comes to the game. Uh, really smart guys.


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[Assistant] I think the coaching is going to be fascinating. This game is going to be so interesting because you have Andy's a great offensive mind, uh, against a really, really stout Eagles defense. And then you got Spags, who is a great defensive mind against a really unique


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[Assistant] Eagles offense with great run game principles and, uh, Sirianni and Shane Steikender, uh, is OC are really sharp X and O guys. So I think this whole thing should be really interesting.


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[Assistant] No, I think he's a secret. I do. I think he's a secret. It was funny. There was a play.


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[Assistant] Where he was trying to draw somebody off sides. I guess it was the Giants game and.


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[Assistant] He yells, I know what the bleep I'm doing. All right. It was great. Like it was just, it was so important. I don't know how he does not win coach of the year. You know, we could all say, wow, the Eagles won 14 to three. No one thought the Eagles were a one seed.


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[Assistant] You know, that's impressive, Will, because, you know, not a lot of people really thought that it would come together. Now, Howie Roseman did an amazing job putting this roster together, but Nick is a terrific offensive mind and he's a secret, but he'll get his, like, I was talking to him, uh, I do think at some point,


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[Assistant] Everybody will go, wow, that dude is really good. And they'll be viewed upon as the, the Shanahan type, a really, you know, smart offensive mind. He's a great dude too. He's like, he's all heart. He's like, he is.


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[Assistant] Ah, dude, he fits this Philly scene so well. Like he's made, he's, you know, upstate New York.


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[Assistant] You know, he's a big family guy, his brothers, his father was a coach. Like it just, it's kind of who we are as Philadelphians. And it was beautiful. You know, what's interesting is today on my show I have Doc Rivers on, right? And so we're talking about Sirianni.


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[Assistant] And Doc, coach of the Sixers of course, says, you know what he reminds me of? He reminds me of Pete Carroll, a young Pete Carroll.


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[Assistant] Are unfiltered, right? Like, you know, it takes wine. No, you know, being one and Syrianis like that. Like there's no pretense about him. He's not polished. Smart. Very smart.


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[Assistant] You know, nothing's orchestrated. Nothing's phony. You know, what I love about him is that, you know, he's just, you know, we always talk about keeping it real and, you know, being real and Philadelphia is real and, and Sirianni's real and he loves Jaylen. Jaylen really digs him, uh, who's a great story. I mean, you want to talk about,


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[Assistant] It's just a beautiful story. The Jalen Hurts story is, is just one that I just, I adored a kid, man. And look, I didn't have, I doubted, I didn't know that he would, you know, turn into this kind of player.


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[Assistant] Nah, look, it's funny, I had a friend of mine text me, saw him working out with Tom House and he went, yo man, your boy looks pretty good over out here. I was like, oh cool, you know, but everybody thought,


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[Assistant] He looked good at camp, but he looked great during the season, man. He, you know, he, he, his arm and he had a lot of plays to make in the Tampa playoff game last year that he did not. And all those throws he made this year. And it's a testament to how hard he worked. And you know, he's a coach, he's a kid and everything's we, we, we, and he's a, he's a joy in that way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he also comports himself that way too. Like, he's a real mature, mature dude. And I think, you know, listen, he took a lot from saving, man. You know, those saving guys, they handle their business. I, so I had Michael Vick one yesterday, right? And Mike said,


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[Assistant] He goes, you know, man, and I knew Mike from way back in the day and he's like, dude, I wish that I handled my business when I was his age in the league, like Jalen did, like Jalen does it right.


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[Assistant] Yo, Jalen is just about football, man. He's, he is, he eats it, he breathes it, the whole thing. But yeah, I agree. He, he appears.


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[Assistant] Like nobody thought he was going to be, you know, uh, Lawrence, you know what I mean? Nobody thought he'd be Trevor Lawrence or anything like that and how he did and listen, I didn't understand it. I mean, you have how he's reasoning behind it, which was sound.


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[Assistant] But really it was to control cost of the backup quarterback. He knew he had Wentz and that Wentz was a guy who played hero ball and that Wentz Shelf Life.


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[Assistant] So I, I think you gotta run the ball. All right. They, there are offensive lines, the best in football, as you know. And even in that game, Jaylen, your shoulders bothered. I'm like, you know, I mean, look, your shoulders is a little sore.


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[Assistant] They ran the ball supremely well and they ran backside, right? Like one of the things that they took advantage of was, you know,


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[Assistant] Showing the look of the RPR and then running counter backside, which was really smart. And I could see them doing a lot of that because look, if you're the Eagles, you want to bleed class. Like you don't want to get into the game of the thirties with my homes. I don't care what receivers are he's got or doesn't have.


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[Assistant] Remember, Kelsey is, as we know, a star. He works the middle of the field. And that's the one area of the Eagles defense that's a little soft is the middle of the field. So Kelsey will have a big thing. What Syriac needs to do is run the football.


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[Assistant] He's got a, and it hurts. Listen, it's the last game of the year. So Jalen, who's a great runner, is just going to have to let it all hang out.


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[Assistant] And he's going to have to carry the ball because those RPRs are so hard to defend.


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[Assistant] And then once you lull them, then you can take a shot. You got Devontae, you got AJ Brown, two great receivers who I guess spags will man up on the outside with their young secondary. So if you get them come and run, run, run, then you take a shot. You take your shot down the field.


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[Assistant] I think you, I think you have to. Yeaah. You gotta push him that way. Yeaah. You do, you gotta push him that way. I agree with it. Now, remember, uh, Jonathan Gannon, who's Eagles DC, is not a blitzer guy. He's a guy that likes to, he's got a great front, as you know. He'll play a five man front. He's got


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[Assistant] Uh, endless tackles. That's how we got them in Dominic and Sue and Linville Joseph to go with Jordan Davis, who was a high pick. So they have a great front. It's just incredible. I mean, when I, I, I will, I have not seen anything. You want to talk about underplayed?


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[Assistant] Hassan Reddick has been, I mean, he's been ridiculous. I mean, dominant. Every bit, every bit as dominant as Von Miller, as I've seen this season, right? This season, Hassan Reddick has been unblockable.


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[Assistant] They had more talent. They're better in the back end too. With, uh, with, uh, with the sleigh and Bradbury and, uh, 20 Gardner Johnson. That's a big deal. Um, you know, it was history. I think Andy attacks, you know, I think this is a McKinnon game.


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[Assistant] I think Andy's gonna use, remember, he used Pacheco a little bit. Nobody's better at screens than Andy. He invented all that stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. Exactly. My guess is he...


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[Assistant] He, uh, my read would be he goes to McKinnon a lot underneath. McKinnon, he didn't use McKinnon much the last two games.


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[Assistant] And I know Andy, Andy's brilliant. He's a diabolical mind. Like, he's always sticking ahead.


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[Assistant] And I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to McKinnon out because that's also a way to help my homes. All right. You're going to keep the defense off balance, right? I could see him going that route.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's the, I, I just kind of know Andy, it's kind of how I look into his mind. I think that's, that's where he, that's where he goes. That would be my bet.


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[Assistant] I think it's a great guy. I think it's going to be an epic game. And, uh, you know, I'll cop out and say Eagles, uh, by field goal and it will be a fun, incredible football game that the nation will enjoy.


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[Assistant] No, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be points. 30-27. I just think the offensives are too good. And I think the, you know, again, I think the Eagles are going to have to score because I think the Chiefs are going to score. They have not seen a quarterback like Mahomes yet.


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[Assistant] So I'm, I'm going to predict in, uh, Greece polls here.


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[Assistant] Alright, thanks for joining the Pixix Podcast. Eli Manning.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't, you don't really need an introduction at this point. You're like, you, you and Peyton, if you pay me, you're not like a, uh, the, I mean, what do you guys call it? Would you like, would, with the Manny cast and like, cause you're not like the host of, you know, like you're not the announcers, but you're the.


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[Assistant] What is your, what is your new business card say now that you're, now that you're, you know, doing this stuff?


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I mean, you know, you guys, um, because as you were, you guys are very prominent figures in the football world and you've always, you know, been stoic on the field. You know, you handle your business. I don't know that. I mean, so people who watch football very closely or, you know, people who watch Saturday live, I guess, might know that you guys are funnier. Like, is it, has it been?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like if he called you and said, Hey, that's the 17th time you made fun of my forehead. That's I, you know, I need you to just please stop. You'd be like, listen, I'm going to rip you on the show for that. Um, and you know, the personality thing is tough too in New York because we've seen


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[Assistant] Like, you know, if you want to, if you want to be like flashy and fancy in New York, you really like it, it's going to, it's got major potential to backfire. Um, speaking of New York, I'm not sure if you managed to peek out your window at any point.


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[Assistant] Uh, last night or I don't know if the empire state building is tall building.


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[Assistant] I don't know about a little man. I would see like, that was like the backlash and that was like the New York sanitation department was like basically like pretend it's for us. We're going to throw the, throw this, throw the eagles out the trash like we do, you know, every, every week.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, uh, these quarterbacks that are, were in the final four, then you still have a few on the, you know, we had Trevor Lawrence that was there too. Like you, you and Peyton know these guys so well.


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[Assistant] Like almost all of them, because of the Manny Passing Academy and everybody coming up through there. Where do you think the state of quarterbacking is? Like, do you, do you feel like we're headed into, like you retired, your brother retired, Ben retired, Phillips out. I mean, Tom and Aaron are on the fringe there. And so like, we're losing a lot of really, really good hall of fame quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like we've got enough in the, enough in the, in the chamber, so to speak, that, that could be fine?


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, you know, the, the, the bandics have all hung out at Duke at some various point in the past couple of, uh, uh, you know, years for, for cut cliff reasons.


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[Assistant] I was like, you know, where do you think the giants are at right now? Like you're losing the playoffs, ugly loss of the Eagles. But like, I sort of look at it as kind of, I've been saying it's like the 2017 bills when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean came in there and they lost in the playoffs and it wasn't particularly close, but.


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[Assistant] You see the foundation being put in place. I mean, do you, you've, I mean, don't you look at this giant team and think it's set up very well for the future, right?


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[Assistant] It's, it starts much later than a normal football game. People are used to it. Even in, even in the playoffs and even players have to pregame or pregain grain. If you will, uh, you were working with Quaker. Tell us about the, uh, the Quaker pre grain contest.


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[Assistant] Um, man, uh, you know, that's, uh, I'm sure you, I'm sure you thought, you know, like five years ago, you'd be talking about TikTok, right? Like that's, you know, that's, I know that's, I know that's why I was at our age.


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[Assistant] Um, all right. Yeah. I really appreciate the time, man. Uh, uh, look, look, look forward to watching more many casts. Look forward to, uh, to seeing how this contest goes and, uh, make sure people check out at Quaker on tick tock Eli. Thanks as always for the time.


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[Assistant] No, I do not. I think it's going to be a close game. Remember, when they went to Buffalo and won that game, they came home and got whacked by the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] He was the best pass rusher in the draft. He was.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And, and I just think this is a bad spot for Ritter. I mean, I, I, I like the Ravens. I don't have them as a best bet, but I do have them, uh, as a teaser or I did was going to put them, yeah, I got them as a teaser down to one. Uh, now it's a half on our line, but, um, or is it it's one because we had it. We get one. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I take the Ravens. I just don't think Ritter played well last week and this is a better defense on the road. The conditions are going to be bad. And I know his offensive line has been much improved, but I think this is a bad matchup for him. So I'll take the Ravens as part of the first part of my teaser minus one.


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[Assistant] I never was in that stadium. I can promise you that. I was in the other dump that they had in between though, many a time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it sounded like the weather was so bad outside, it sounded like that roof was going to blow off one day. It was getting a little hair. It was after the game, but it was getting bad in there.


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[Assistant] Because I think they're just going to pound it. And the Saints don't do anything to me in terms of what they do on offense.


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[Assistant] Uhm, running the ball. They're not a power team. American run the ball, but they're not a power team. So I, I, I'm going to lead to the Browns here minus the three. I don't love this game at all. I think this is, this is a repulsive. This will be, if, if it ends up six, three, it wouldn't surprise or seven, three wouldn't surprise.


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[Assistant] You know, what's amazing though is that actually was the second, the first playoff game that year that I went to there and the following week was the championship game, I think.


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[Assistant] And the championship game was 10 times colder than that one. That just so happened that we were doing that and it was snowing outside. It was a little windy.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny though? The three coldest games I've ever done.


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[Assistant] No, the three coldest games I ever did were that Chiefs game, which was brutal, the Giants,


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[Assistant] Championship game. Was that the championship game? Yeah, that one was freezing out that day. That wasn't the champ. Was that the championship game?


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[Assistant] Remember the Titans Patriots played a night playoff game years ago? That was brutal.


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[Assistant] Those are the three coldest, it's on Buffalo and Denver and all the other places and they were never that cold, but those were the three worst.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like Borough a lot in this spot too, and they're getting Hendrickson back. That's big for their defense. And look, the Patriots, how do you respond off a disaster like that? I mean, it's just guys point, looking around, what happened? How does that happen?


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[Assistant] Uh, Belichick's ultimately responsible for it because you're the head coach. You gotta coach him up. Why did he take a knee by the way and go to overtime? What's the difference between taking a knee and handing the ball off? It made no sense to me. All you're doing is risking the fumble or something bad.


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[Assistant] And so, uhm, I don't know how they respond to that. The Bengals are playing back to back road games, but I think offensively they're, they're so hard to stop. And this Patriots team isn't good. I mean, they're just not a good in terms of talent. They don't have a ton of talent. So I'm going to take the Bengals minus the points. I don't make it a best bet, but I'll make, I'll take the Bengals.


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[Assistant] You gotta put down three names this year. As of right now, Hertz is still the leader, but if he doesn't play, that kind of changes things. And Hertz, Mahomes. Allen. Allen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but my homes will overtake them though, I think.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'm probably gonna take the Lions minus the two and a half. I don't love this game. Anytime, Carolina games are hard to pick for me. They really are. I have a tough time with that team, but I'm gonna take the Lions minus the small number.


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[Assistant] This game means nothing to the titans. Nothing. It means zero. What?


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[Assistant] Doesn't. They can lose the next two and they beat Jacksonville and they win the division.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I get it, but I just think when you look at the, look at the Titans, I think they're playing bad football. I don't know what the Chargers did last week. That was a disaster.


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[Assistant] They, they, they went against that defense and had 14 points until that laser shot down the field late in the game. It was terrible that they chargered. Uhm, but I'm gonna take the Texans plus the points. Best bet. I think they hang around in this game. Uh, Lulik Willis has to show it to me before I can back him.


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[Assistant] No, I know, but I'm saying on paper, that's all they have to do. Right, but like couldn't they, they can win. Yes, they can lock it up before that. Yes.


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[Assistant] No, they're not a good team. They have a bad offensive line too.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take the over. I know the weather. I looked at the weather. Uhm, like we said early in the show, it's not going to be that bad there.


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[Assistant] It's going to be cold, but it's not going to be windy. And I think when you look at that Seattle defense, they've taken their typical step back that we didn't think they would take after midway through the season when they got better.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're back to being not good. And I think the Chiefs will come home after two lackluster road games and show off, uh, and Seahawks will get some, cause Chiefs defense isn't playing well either. Um, I think the Chief, the, the Seahawks will get some big plays down the field as well. So I'll take the over 49 as a best bet for me.


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[Assistant] They place so much, they cover so much ground.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, it's a lot like those old Seattle defenses. When you can rush with, you know, four and the linebackers can fly and run to the ball, you cover the whole field.


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[Assistant] And that's what they do. So, I, I think that, look, Heineken's been a little shaky hearing rumblings that he might be replaced. You know, they've, they've mentioned that possibility. Uhm, so it's, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you have to if you're in a playoff race. Um, and so I think I'm going to take the 49ers. I'm not going to lay the seven. I'm going to give him close it out as one of the other part of my teaser and lay it minus one 49ers minus one.


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[Assistant] Yes, I am. You know, look, it's going to be an emotional night for the Steelers, eh, with all the Frank O'Hara stuff and retirement and everything else.


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[Assistant] I see it. Absolutely see it. And, uh, look, I know he wasn't great the other night, but you, you're starting to see it. He knew exactly what they had coming up. He mentioned it in this postgame press conference. He's well aware. He's mentioned 2010. Remember they got a run and they won their last two, got in and got hot.


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[Assistant] So he's well aware of tha don't like the way the Mi think he's gonna have a l going to take over here a away from it because I But I'm gonna take, I'm g plus the four here. I think game. I do think it gets


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[Assistant] Look, the rams aren't good right now. Nobody, everybody knows that.


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[Assistant] They are home though. And what are the Braggos playing for? Nothing.


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[Assistant] So in this scenario when you got Christmas Day, you got a team that's playing for nothing. You got one that's also playing for another, but at least they're home and you're going to give me points. I'm going to take the Rams as a best bet. I just, I'm not, I think McVeigh is a better coach. Uh, I'm going to take plus two and a half in the Rams.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't have the best bet on this game, but I, I, I'm, I'm victim of this and I know everybody else is too. At some point, the books are going to get it going. At some point, Tom Brady is going to look like Tom Brady. Well, you haven't yet.


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[Assistant] Maybe this is the game. So if I had to pick it and I don't have the best bet on it, I'm going to take the bucks minus the points. I'm not taking Trace McSorley.


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[Assistant] To the Bucks in week one of the playoffs, you're gonna take the Bucks? To win? I might, I mean, I might.


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[Assistant] I would lead to the Bills, but I'll tell you what, after what happened with the Eagles last week, uhm, cause I had them, I thought they would, uh, I thought they would cover that number. They got the back door. I'll take Buffalo, but I don't love it.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I, I take the cowboys here. Uh, look, uhm, I just think...


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[Assistant] The Eagles offense changes entirely. It's a different offense with Minshew in the game. He can't run. So the run game might be limited a little bit.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so I'll take the Cowboys. They have to show something. They haven't been very good the last couple of weeks. I don't love this game, but I would lean to the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the greatest accident in the history of the league is back playing quarterback again for the Indianapolis Colts.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's what he is. Nick Foles, he's an accident with one, one, one two game run and everybody thinks he's a, was thought he was, Jacksonville pay overpaid him like idiots. Uh, he, he's not very good. He's not any better than Matt Ryan. I'm going to take the Chargers here. My, and I don't love the game. Here's why. At some point to the Chargers charger.


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[Assistant] Didn't last year, they charged him against, against Houston on the road. Lateness, he was at week 16 last year, 17, right? They lost, didn't they lose to the Texans on the road last year? Had no business doing that. Uhm, but I'm still gonna take him here because I think that the culture's that bad and, and I think that they've packed it in after what happened last week.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, I think Bryson Brinson were correct that we weren't going to be able to keep everybody, but at the same time, you know, you still got guys like Nakobe Dean who didn't play a lot of snaps last year, but played a little bit in that Tennessee game and showed some things. But you also have a guy in Jordan Davis who can play down.


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[Assistant] With the first pick, which is one of the few, one of your better contributions to 2023 so far with the first take is a fantastic spinoff of with the first pick.


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[Assistant] It's been sold to me as with the first pick, uhm, after hours. So. I will say. Cinemax version of with the first pick.


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[Assistant] Hold on quickly, Breach, what do you think the temperature is in my house in central New York right now?


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[Assistant] You want to guess, Brinson, over or under 40? In Syracuse right now? Outdoors, yea.


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[Assistant] Alright. I didn't get the memo breach. Alright, either way.


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[Assistant] He put his glasses on, he can read clocks now. Here we go. All right. Eric DeCosta. Hey, I'm like James Winston.


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[Assistant] You are like, you are the embodiment, you are the living embodiment of James Winston's podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm tagging Lamar Jackson. Number one, he's 26 years old. Number two, the tag is for quarterbacks, $32.4 million breach, which is going to be well below what he earns on an annual salary when he gets his new deal.


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[Assistant] Oh, right. So right. The conversation is, do you want a non-exclusive him and let someone else see the negotiating for you and potentially lose, potentially lose out?


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[Assistant] Or do you usually want to pay him? And I would just pay him right now. I don't know what he's asking for. SpotTrack has sort of a market value.


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[Assistant] These are going to be closer to 50 than the 40, the 40.7 that spot track sort of baselines. But either way, you start with the franchise tag, 30 point, 32.4 million, and you go from there. I don't think you allow other teams to negotiate because if someone does something, it only takes one Cleveland Brown said to come with like 53 or something a year. And then you're like, oh boy, here we go.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think you, um, make sure Lamar's healthy. You got Todd Munkin in there now. He seems excited about Lamar. He said the other day, you're watching the same games I am. And, uh, there's no way I'm not tagging Lamar Jackson, probably exclusively Breach.


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[Assistant] Well that's the thing, if you franchise them, that's with the understanding that a new deal has to get done. So you're not paying 45 in one lump sum. It's with the understanding that you gotta sign them. Cause you may not want to play on the deal anyway.


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[Assistant] It's the Dak Prescott situation for Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts. We said for 18 months, what is Jerry Jones waiting for? And then he had to overpay Dak and hey, turns out Dak


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[Assistant] You can transition to not having a job after you do that.


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[Assistant] Would you let Saquon walk and then get the third round comp pick?


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[Assistant] Well, the only good thing about Saquon getting the tag is that it's 10 million, and the only person making a ton of money is McCaffrey, everyone else. I'm not franchising Saquon. But I'm saying that's...


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[Assistant] That's actually sort of, you got to pay it more probably, if you're trying to do more than that.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, we would have called, we would have crucified them had they done that.


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[Assistant] He ain't taking, I mean, he's not gonna take a five million dollar year pay cut. What are you gonna pay him?


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[Assistant] Eddie Jackson makes $14.6 million. He ain't taking less than Eddie Jackson money.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you have to take Jamal Adams out of the mix cause he's just an outlier and Harrison Smith might retire. So that doesn't count. So I think then next is Justin Simmons and that feels like the neighborhood, but I don't think you can tell me, I don't think Jesse Bates had the season that Justin Simmons did.


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[Assistant] Wow, I mean. Who's giving it to him? And he didn't have a, I mean, he was good, but he wasn't lights out great.


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[Assistant] I mean, you can find big bodies like Sue and Linball if you have Fletcher Cox and Jevon Hargrave.


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[Assistant] You can't find big bodies like Linball.


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[Assistant] I don't know man, Chauncey Gardner Johnson got traded out of the Saints. He was a fourth round pick. He's a good football player, don't get me wrong, and that defense didn't take a hit in the backhand when he got hurt. Are we sure the Saints aren't tanking to help the Eagles?


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[Assistant] But if you're starting a team, I'm starting a team with Jevon over Chauncey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he'll be fine though. That's actually less worrisome than an ACL. I think just cause it's the bone and not a ligament.


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[Assistant] I was going to say maybe I'm leaning Schultz, and I might even be leaning just draft the tight end. Schultz is good, but he's not.


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[Assistant] His cap hits 16.7 million next year if you trade him. Like I don't, is anyone paying that? That's just a lot of money to put on a running back that's...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he's making 10 million base salary if you keep going with this thing. And again, that's crazy money for someone who's not Saquon Barkley or better. Yeah, I think you cut Zeke and then there's no reason to keep him. What's the upside?


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[Assistant] Well, Breach, the post June 1st dead cap hit in 2023 is 5.8 million, uhm, and then 6 million next year when they split it up. So there's still a cap hit, but it's quote unquote minimal if you want to switch things up now. If you trade them, the dead cap hit right now is 11.8 million, so you can't trade them.


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[Assistant] Well, if you go, if you wait till the draft is the end of the first round, you're, you're sort of rolling the dice unless you plan on trading up and there's no reason to do that. I mean, they absolutely crushed the draft last year, so they're pretty good at staying put. Uh, and here's the other thing. If you think back to the,


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[Assistant] Chiefs Buccaneers, Super Bowl breach. What is your lasting memory of that night for Patrick Mahomes?


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[Assistant] Right, and that's what I'm saying if I'm Orlando Brown's agent. I would just go in there and play that game and not say anything and at the end of it click off the old projector and say, okay.


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[Assistant] Right. And so I flip off the projector and say, okay, we're starting negotiations at $500 million a year. I'm franchise tagging Orlando Brown. Uhm, the spot tracks on the baseline number is 22.4 million, but as you mentioned, he's been tagged. He was at the franchise tag in general for the office of lineman is 18.2.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, the turf, I will, I mean, the turf sucked. But, um, my point is that if you want Patrick Mahomes to be upright,


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[Assistant] It starts up front and you gotta pay those dudes, and I think Orlando Brown is right. Maybe some of the money off the t-shirts will offset what he's asking for, but he's, I would franchise him and go from there.


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[Assistant] He made the most of every opportunity he was given. And he's a, he's a great dude. He was actually, he wasn't even highly recruited only because he played at a small school. And I think, um, it may have been Feldman that wrote about it for the athletic, but it's a great story about how he came to be found.


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[Assistant] To your point, he's by all accounts an absolutely great human being, so good for him.


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[Assistant] No, that's what, uh. Worst, worst bleep talker. That's what Michael Parsons said. He said Leonard Burnett.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm. You got a weird way of showing you like Josh Jacobs.


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[Assistant] Pretty good after last year. I mean, a year ago, I wouldn't have felt so hot about it, but things are working out.


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[Assistant] Well, you're right about him going first. I mean, just- That's all that matters. Are you, are you-


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[Assistant] So here's the thing, Evan Eggman made 9 million dollars last year. The tag for tight ends is 11.3. And some of the comps, Gerald Everett made 12 million last year. What are we doing? Uhm, Logan Thomas


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[Assistant] Oh no, I'm sorry. He made 8 million. I was going to read the wrong column there. Logan Thomas got 8 million. Uh, Austin Hooper got six and Zach Ertz got 10. So you're paying a little more than Zach Ertz who's past his prime. I think we'd all agree. And Everett Engel was incredibly important to T-Law's development. I felt like, I mean, we know what the guys did on the outside with Zay Jones and Christian Kirk and they're getting Calvin Ridley this year.


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[Assistant] And I'm fine tagging him for one year. He's 29. So you could even sign him to a two year deal if you wanted to for maybe around that much money, 20 million.


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[Assistant] Alternatively, you could draft a tight end at the end of the first round when you pick and there are going to be a lot of guys, not quite the athlete of Evan Ingram, but athletic enough that can come in and help right away. But Breach, I always say you can draft those guys, but you know what you have in Evan Ingram and that was pretty good in that offense with Doug Peterson. So I'm fine spending a little money on him tag and then maybe two or three year deal if you can make that happen.


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[Assistant] Well, if John breaches my GM, I'm going in there and beating him up and then taking what I want.


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[Assistant] Who's gonna put up better numbers next year, Gino or Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just like Josh Jacobs said in terms of, I mean, you're playing football, but oh, it's the week four game of a preseason game that no one gives a crap about unless you're about to get cut. I mean, Gino, I'm sure he would love to get $32 million a year in a vacuum, but when you see other nerds out there getting paid more than you who aren't as good as you, that's when you get angry.


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[Assistant] Very, very rare. You should get hurt to the point where you can't, you're not as good as you were.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CVSports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Orbert Sandberg, your host. The division rounds are over. Four teams remain.


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[Assistant] Bingo's made it. Reach's tree is still up. Joining me, a very fired up Ryan Wilson.


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[Assistant] And, uh, a very, uh, you know, cleanly cut John breach. She's excited for his bingles. What's up guys.


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[Assistant] As RJ reads notes, we're basically on time, starting right at 10 o'clock. Pretty fantastic for.


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[Assistant] Uh, to get these, these, uh, early start times for these podcasts as opposed to, you know, most Sunday nights when we have.


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[Assistant] A late Saturday night football. Uhm, we'll start with the 49ers and the Cowboys. And then we'll get to Breeches, Bengals after the break.


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[Assistant] My goodness, it was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Dakar, like Dakpress guy getting a snap from Zeke Elliott, throwing to Kevan Turpin, and then just everybody getting leveled for the Cowboys. And like, you never see a lateral play.


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[Assistant] So Zeke, was it, you know, it was like that cult, that famous Colts punt where they had nobody out there, but was, was it all other skill position guys out there? It was, it was at least that's the theory is like, let's get our fastest guys out there for the crazy lateral play. And so I hope something weird happens. I mean, cause he didn't, he didn't like the offensive cause you have to,


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[Assistant] Right, but I mean, like, yeaah, I mean, you can lateral to anybody, you just can't throw the pass to anybody.


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[Assistant] But yeah, Brian British, a rookie, Dak is a $40 million quarterback. Like Dak is, Dak has had a lot of highs and lows this year.


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[Assistant] You know, you're not going to, he's, he's above the, the late Chris Weston came up with the Indy, the Dalton line, right? Where it's, I mean, he's above that. It's just like.


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[Assistant] He does some really dumb stuff. It feels like almost every Cowboys quarterback always does some dumb stuff. Their manifestation of Jerry Jones.


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[Assistant] They haven't been to the NFC Championship game since 95, 12 and 5, the last two years.


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[Assistant] Any chance that Mike McCarthy is in trouble? I don't think so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, tend to agree with that. Uhm, Tony Potter got hurt in the game. It felt like Dallas is off. It's completely stagnated. Once that happened, Zeke is just, man, he is not it right now.


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[Assistant] Dalton Schultz and Terry Impala, both are free agents after this offseason. We don't linger on Dallas too long just because they lost the game. They're done. But you know, it's.


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[Assistant] Yep. I don't know. I mean, the Giants looked like they're improving rapidly. The Eagles have a really nice foundational base, uh, to keep playing good football over the next few years with Jalen hurts there and a bunch of studs along the lines and then some really good skill guys. Like I don't know if the Cowboys are just sort of have been stuck in this, like, like, like,


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[Assistant] Like middling mall for, I don't know, like 22 years. It doesn't feel like they're going to advance out of it anytime soon.


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[Assistant] Hit him. It was going to be picked by him and somebody else picked it because it popped up. We're really bad throws by Dak. And I think, you know, you look at this Cowboys last eight games as playoff underdogs, they have our O and eight. Last time we won our game as a playoff underdog was the 1992 NFC championship against the Niners.


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[Assistant] With all those picks in the regular season, with these picks in the playoffs, I know we played great against Minnesota. Minnesota's defense was awful, right?


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy, but if I'm Jerry Jones and I'm at his age.


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[Assistant] And Sean Payton is this former, you know, this Super Bowl winning coach who's, you know, a quarterback guru who was on my staff before who has made it like clear that he would be, you know, it seems to me he's made it clear he either wants Dallas or the Chargers job.


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[Assistant] I would probably be looking at going to try and get Sean Payton if I was Jerry Jones. Now I don't know that he's necessarily going to do it.


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[Assistant] I just think you could talk Sean Payton into coming into Dallas and you would maybe get a better performance from Dak Prescott if you had Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] I think it would be an upgrade. I don't know. I don't necessarily think that Jerry Jones will do it. I would do it if it was possible to pull off. That's all I'm saying for each.


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[Assistant] I just don't, you have to give them an extra first round pack and like, there's a bunch of money, the money stuff and the, I mean, I know what you're saying, I don't-


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[Assistant] Rock party. I thought, I thought Dallas's defense, by the way, played really well in this game. Um, sort of wore down late, but the defensive, like the defense came, came, came out hot, you know.


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[Assistant] Hey, we're hammer hitting them like crazy. The pass was getting home tons of pressure on Brock Purdy. Robert could have thrown three picks in this game. If Dallas had held onto the picks, you know, maybe it's an entirely different game. Um,


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[Assistant] Oh, by the way, we should point out on Dallas too, Brett Mayer bounced back. Not that he has to kick again for the rest of the year, but two field goals made.


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[Assistant] That blocked extra point that was definitely going to miss was something else and then he banged down the field goal. So that was kind of fun.


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[Assistant] The way that Purdy has been built up as this quarterback over the course of this stretch where they've, you know, won, I think now 12 games in a row or 13 games in a row. It was, you know, it's like people are like, he's brought Purdy good. Like, do we know? Well, I mean, he, he's really good for the last pick of the draft. He's a rookie.


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[Assistant] And in this situation, against a stout defense, I know that he made mistakes. But for a guy of his pedigree and in a rookie season to play like that?


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[Assistant] I thought it was really, really impressive, especially after sort of a slow shaky start where there was a bunch of pressure on him. Thought he made some, somebody made some big plays, um, will be the fifth rookie to start a conference championship game.


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[Assistant] Mark St. Joseph in 09, the last one, Joe Flacco in 08, Big Ben in 04, Sean King in 1999, all four of those lost with a combined four passing touchdowns and nine interceptions, of course.


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[Assistant] We will not see Brock Pardee as a favorite. He's a two point dog early on at Philadelphia. What do you think of Brock Pardee's performance, Wilson?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's, and it, you know, again, we go back to people like, well, he's in the Shanahan system. That's why he's winning. It's like, well, you know, yes, Kyle Shanahan makes it easier for quarterbacks because he gives them lots of open looks. He gives them lots of, you know, very quickly designed plays.


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[Assistant] And you let your, you trust your, that's why you go and trade for Christopher Caffrey. That's why you signed Devo Samuel. You let your playmakers make big plays for you near the line of scrimmage. That's perfectly fine.


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[Assistant] You know, we talked about the Mike McDaniel offense in Miami and how it would potentially help to a, to a tug of a lot of thrive by getting the ball to Jalen Waddell and Tyree Hill in space and allowing them to explode and pick up yards after the catch. Well, that's the same thing they're doing.


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[Assistant] Like Devo, Samuel, Christian McCaffrey, like ripping on brought party for.


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[Assistant] Given that he was the last pick of the draft, that he's a rookie, that he's been doing all this for so long, like the guy makes good decisions, he makes them quickly. Now, could he have been picked off a couple times? Yeaah. Cowboys gotta execute better. Cowboys had some sloppy penalties too, that gave, and some mistakes that helped San Francisco move the ball.


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[Assistant] It felt like, it felt like there was another quarter of that game, and obviously that's not a hypothetical we live in, that the Niners could have like really gotten the run game going.


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[Assistant] You know, that last drive where they ended up settling for a field goal, but it's like an eight minute drive, just taking the air out of the ball, eating up clock. And if Elijah Mitchell doesn't get out of bounds, you know, they obviously don't have to punt there. Um, it's just, it's just a team that,


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[Assistant] If they get downhill on you, they can really put you in non-adventitious positions. And as long as Brock Purdy doesn't turn the ball over, and he's been good about that, even if he's getting lucky some, uh, the Niners look like a really good football team. The Lions currently double check Caesars.


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[Assistant] I see Eagles minus two, which a little bit off of what Billy predicted, but that's okay.


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[Assistant] You have eagles minus two over under 45 and a half, San Francisco at Philadelphia. I would lead towards the 49ers.


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[Assistant] I got, I got, I got three of the four teams. I got a, I had only three Superbowl features this year. No, four. I have the Raven suit. Uh, three of my four Superbowl features are the, uh, three of the four final teams. Pretty excited about that. Bengals plus either one of these teams. I'm making good money in the Superbowl.


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[Assistant] Answer your question. Uhm. So anything else on the Niners before we take a break?


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[Assistant] Yeah, to be clear, no one is blaming, uh, Maher for the, for, for causing the game or, but you know, uh, Robbie Gold certainly helped the 49ers win the game. By the way, the 49ers defense.


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[Assistant] Came out of the gates hot too. Like that pass rush is vicious. And those guys hit hard. They make plays on the ball.


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[Assistant] They're, you know, they're smart. Like the, the play, um, the, it was a, I guess it was the next to last play.


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[Assistant] Where Dalton Schultz, oh no, excuse me too, not the next last play, the second to last play. Dalton Schultz catches the ball and uhm, was it the defender, was it uh, was it Treavius Ward? Who comes in and hits him.


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[Assistant] And then points at the ref and is like, points like, like yelling, like he's going backwards because you, the rule is you have to be going forwards. Like your, your progress has to be going forwards out of bounds to stop the clock.


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[Assistant] Well, the way that he hit him, the way that coaching like to make a Ryan's unbelievable coaching there to have the state of the presence of mind to make sure that Dalton Swartz was not going out of bounds and it resulted in the clock running and another like 10 seconds burned off.


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[Assistant] I just want to point out two, uh, two incredible catches in this game. CD lamb had the one.


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[Assistant] Where he skied up and like rotated over and, and, you know, it almost hit the ground. Didn't even budge, even though it hit the ground, just an elite level catch. See the lamb stepped up in a big way for the Cowboys in this game, especially after they lost Tony Pollard and kept them in the game. And then, holy crap, George Kindle.


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[Assistant] The one where it's like hits his hands off his face mask up in the air, bouncing around. He grabs it, has a presence of mind to like dive to the left and avoid the big hit and then get up and do the, like the funny, like Michael Jordan tongue face. I mean, just, and then later on he even got the sky came and did this weird like.


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[Assistant] Make a little look around. This is an unbelievable catch by George Kittle here. Uhm, and the 49ers.


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[Assistant] I do think that, you know, you look at this team and they are, they're clutch man. I mean, they, they can kind of close out and that's the Eagles are too. I think, I think it's going to be a great game. I don't, I don't know that.


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[Assistant] You know, the Eagles are just going to roll the 49ers or the 49ers are going to like clearly upset them. I think it's, I think it's just two really good teams. It's the one and two seeds.


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[Assistant] Um, in, in the, in the, in the conference here, the one of the three seat on the other side. That's why the buy is so important and.


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[Assistant] It's going to be, I think it's going to be an awesome conversation for your Sunday. Let's take a break. Breach can peacock about his Bengals next.


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[Assistant] I thought the really impressive thing about what the Bingles did and you know, we talked about this all week leading up to it, whether it was on this show or do the picture, I talked about it on HQ.


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[Assistant] If the Bengals came out and tried to cover up the offensive line issues by running the football, it was going to get poorly.


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[Assistant] And they didn't, they came out and put the ball in Joe Burrows hand and they let him do what he does in the snow.


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[Assistant] Those, those receivers, those receivers and like, Hey nurse, we're running wide open. It was crazy. The bills are good defense. Um, and then once they got,


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[Assistant] You know, this lead, they were able to sort of lean into the run game. The Bills run defense wasn't there. The Bills pass rush wasn't there. The Bills run game wasn't there and the Bills pass rush wasn't there. I thought Joe Mixon played an awesome game. He was so physical in the run game downhill and just kept the change moving. They would pick up every, like it felt like they picked up every single third down. I mean, obviously it's probably more like 60%. Uh, maybe even lower than that.


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[Assistant] This is a dominant ass kicking by the Bengals in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Clearly a chip on their shoulder about the whole, you know, no neutral site availability, the coin flip stuff like they have. And like, you know, we get, I get these DMs from calm bear, like Biggles fan, like Biggles fans are like, believe that the NFL is treating them.


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[Assistant] And I believe, and I think the NFL kind of screwed him over, but the biggest thing is that they're trying, like the NFL is out to get them.


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[Assistant] He was, did you see him smoking a cigar at the post game press conference or just post game at the locker room? He's like every time someone asks a question, he just rip a huge thing off the cigar, blow it out and be like, we're the best defense in the world. We were dominant. We're, we're elite, but the Bengals defense has been sneaky good for two years now.


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[Assistant] Lou Anna Rummo does a fantastic job with this unit. People talk about Joe Burrow versus Patrick Mahomes and I get it. You know.


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[Assistant] They are matched up. I mean, totally fair, but...


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[Assistant] The defense and the job that Lou Anna Marumo has done against the Chiefs has been a difference maker in terms of how well this team has played against Kansas City.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you kinda cut it to two scores, you give yourself, it feels like you give yourself more of a fighting chance.


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[Assistant] We got a shot here, you know, you, and you got Allen explosive weapons. I understand. I mean, you know, it's not, it was, that was not the issue. That was not the problem for the bills was that was that playmaking decision. The bills had bigger problems that they had to deal with in that, um, Stefan Diggs, by the way, mentioned that he stormed out the locker room and then, uh, dude Johnson, when he got it brought it back. Obviously we all knew dude Johnson was on the bills. Um,


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[Assistant] He was an active, I guess he's on the bills, but, um, yeah, it, uh, I don't know. I mean, that's a weird scene. The bills. I think just a really disappointing season for the bills.


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[Assistant] For the Bengals, you know, you live to fight another day and you got the, uh, the Chiefs in Arrowhead.


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[Assistant] The San Francisco 49ers, uh, excuse me, the Eagles are minus two against the 49ers, total 45 and a half. And the Bengals minus one against, excuse me, the Chiefs minus one against the Bengals over to 47 and a half. I think the more interesting one is Cincinnati and KC because


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[Assistant] It opened at KC minus three, got immediately bet down, like quickly, then it got through zero, the bagels were briefly favored by one, and then it came back and settled in at KC minus one. I think it's a fairly sharp line. Burrows 3-0 against Mahomes. This game is all going to depend on


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[Assistant] Whether or not Patrick Mahomes is capable of being Patrick Mahomes with his high ankle sprain


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[Assistant] Tony Robo said on the broadcast, the Biggles and Bills broadcast that he had a high angle sprain. He played through the same day that he got the ankle sprain and then later throughout the week it began to bother him more and more and more. So


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[Assistant] You know, I think Mahomes will play. He said he's going to play.


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[Assistant] It's a conference championship game. You can't see him sitting out and letting Chad Henney play against the Bengals and hoping that the Chiefs can hold on. Uhm, but I do think he'll be limited. Like we've seen in the playoffs, Mahomes wins because he runs the ball. He gets out of the pocket. He creates and extends plays, especially on third down and he picks up his back breaking third downs. Now.


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[Assistant] Should the bingles be favorite? I don't know, but I think if you like the bingles.


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[Assistant] Or if you like the bingles in like a teaser, like you want to move the bingles up, you know, you, you would have to do, um, you know, seven points, you would want to do a seven point teaser. The juice is more expensive because you have to move it. You want to move it through the seven, right? You don't want to make a plus seven in case it lands there.


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[Assistant] You should do it now because if Patrick Mahomes isn't practicing or we don't see him or the like, he's listed as like doubtful.


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[Assistant] And again, I think he's gonna play, but that will cause the line likely to move closer to a pick.


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[Assistant] So now would be probably the time to bet the bingles unless you want to try to play chicken with it and see whether or not the bingles.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but whether or not Mahomes is, is clearer than the Chief's, you know, book on like a three point paper or something. But I think, I think one, I think one's pretty good.


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[Assistant] The question is will the Biggles feel disrespected by the fact that no one's going to be talking


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna parlay the Biggles and the Niners and I'm gonna tease the Biggles and the Niners as well. Money line and a tease there. I like, I like both of those.


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[Assistant] Uhm, by the way, the, uh, I see that Serka has, uh, Serka has eagles minus two and a half and chiefs minus one and a half now, so maybe that moves a little bit that way.


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[Assistant] Somebody in the chat says, hedge your Superbowl, you dummy. No, we don't hedge. We lean in. We go JT and load more on the Bengals.


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[Assistant] I don't care who comes out of the industry. I just want that. I want it. I think I want the Eagles to win financially. I want the Bengals to win because I picked, I said, I said big old San Francisco before the playoffs started and before last weekend. So I will take that.


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[Assistant] If Mahomes can't run, this is going to be, it's a tough ass for the Chief. I mean, the Chief is still really good. It's just Mahomes' mobility, particularly in the playoffs, has been a difference maker for the last five years because you get them into third in any, like third in anything and he just extends the play. It runs for the first down or like,


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[Assistant] You know, makes a crazy pass. Like it is one of the biggest difference makers in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Can you guess what it is? Yeaah! I'm gonna go ahead and take the bangles now. God I have, I have, ugh.


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[Assistant] That's it for the division around a little disappointing this weekend. That's okay.


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[Assistant] Conference Championship weekend sets up to be really, really good. Two short lines.


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[Assistant] Yes, we'll do it on Tuesday. That's right. Uhm, alright, thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. For Breach, congrats to your bingo's Breach. For Wilson, I'm Brinton. We'll see you guys later. Good day.


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[Assistant] And then let's not forget Will Brinson writing in Slack, everyone pound the Chargers live muddy wine when they were down 27 to seven or the Jackson.


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[Assistant] Oh no no, I remember, I remember the play. I was just asking the point in the game. Yeah, that was...


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[Assistant] Uh, that's one of those where you're just getting too cute. There's literally no reason to do that, especially when you have someone like Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] And then because they punt there, that's set up Jacksonville's.


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[Assistant] That one breath of hope they got in the first half that Princeton was talking about that let's end the half on a high note. Hey look, Trevor Lawrence threw four interceptions. We had them off the punt, but if we score this touchdown, we're only down 27-7 even though literally everything went against us.


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[Assistant] In the first half, but there were so many dumb things the Chargers did. I mean when you look


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[Assistant] The first drive of the second half, I could not believe they punted from Jacksonville's 38 yard line. I don't care if it's fourth and 10.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so, and then obviously there's the Chargers element of just bad luck where you have Cameron Dicker, who's been on fire all season and who hit three field goals in this game, somehow misses a 40 yard field goal, uh, with just under nine minutes left. And that was just one of those unbelievable things. And then the thing I will say,


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[Assistant] That really made it feel like the Chargers threw this game away. Is that in the second half?


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[Assistant] They were leading 27 to 7 to start the half.


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[Assistant] They had the lead every single time they had the ball. So every time the Chargers offense was on the field in the second half.


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[Assistant] They were leading the game. All you have to do when you're up 20 points is just slowly bleed the clock out. That's it. Uh, you know what the Chargers did? Instead of slowly bleeding the clock out on their four possessions in the second half,


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[Assistant] You cannot call triple the amount of runs. It should have been 20 runs and 7 passes. There's no reason that you should just keep airing it out and throwing these incomplete passes and stopping the clock and giving Jacksonville life. So it was just crazy, uh, that they just did the opposite of what you should do when you're up 20 points.


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[Assistant] It's that in the most high profile game, the game against the Raiders on Sunday night, the final game of the season, they all blew up in his face. And so he went from, uh, you know, Hey, my strategy works to kind of sheepishly going to the off season and getting shamed out of.


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[Assistant] Being, uh, crazy Brandon Staley that goes with analytics all the time and goes forward on fourth down. So I was.


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[Assistant] I wasn't surprised that Doug Peterson declined it. Cause again, it was all about the clock. You need as much time as possible. And if you give them that penalty, then it's back to third down. Maybe they run 40 more seconds off and those are more precious. And so I think Peterson assumed he would try the field goal. And so, uh, you know, Doug Peterson out coached them.


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[Assistant] Well, let me also say that, uh, Mike Florio maybe listened to Megan Paton's podcast, uh, that Sean Paton's daughter and he was on it and he literally said there's a 50. He said, I might go back to Fox. I might coach. So like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you don't need, you know, you don't have to use your sources when you listen to the right podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it, you know, cause now the Chargers is a realistic chance that job could come open because you, I think before this week started,


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[Assistant] We kind of all thought, hey, if Jacksonville blows out the Chargers, that seemed like a route where Brandon Staley possibly gets fired. And you thinking probably it's not going to happen if it's a close game, almost no chance. Yeah, you don't factor them blowing the third largest lead in NFL playoff history. And so I think.


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[Assistant] Right, and how many times have you seen a team put up 30 points and not even put up, barely put up 300 total yards, you know?


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[Assistant] Right, and so, they're up 27-0, not because their offense was, uh, going up and down the field, it's because Trevor Lawrence had a foreign reception, so there's something to be said for that, that their offense looked bad for almost this entire game. They got a muffed punt, that's put them inside a 10, and they couldn't even score a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Well, right, but, but you have more options if you're the offensive coordinator, if Mike Williams is out there and if you're the offensive coordinator, it's not your fault that Mike Williams is not playing.


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[Assistant] I think Greg would be interesting with Justin Herbert. For sure. I don't hate that idea.


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[Assistant] I got a Super Bowl ring, buddy, and I do this stuff better than you. I mean, the fact that they went for 2 when the score was 30 to 26, uh, nothing says do that. I mean, that was, that was Dougie P saying, you know what, we're gonna get the 2 and we're gonna win with the field goal when every other NFL coach would have kicked extra points.


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[Assistant] Uh, to your point though on the missed calls, I mean, the Chargers only scored three points in the second half, and a big reason they even got those was because they got the 321 yards on the pass that should have been ruled incomplete. That was that scoring drive, so...


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[Assistant] I think you're talking about the inadvertent whistle when Joe Burrow threw a touchdown pass, uh, in the back of the end zone.


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[Assistant] I did think it was a drop, I thought that he, uh, as he was going to the ground, he kinda lost it, and then it got knocked out, so like, he had, uh,


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[Assistant] Just didn't look like you made a football move and it looked like it came loose right


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[Assistant] Now I'm working at that, I'm speechless right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, wait, and one more, one more stat to that point. Uh, over the past 40 years,


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[Assistant] When they throw four or more interceptions in a game. So only two out of 40, uh, two out of 34 teams have won. Uh, one of them was Russell Wilson with the Seahawks, the NFC title game against the Packers. And the other one was tonight Jacksonville over the Chargers.


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[Assistant] If the Dolphins or Ravens win, they'll play the Chiefs. Uh, if both those teams lose, then Jacksonville will play the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] But real quick, the Jacksonville and Kansas State did play each other this year, and the Chiefs won 27-17, so.


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[Assistant] Mr. Robbie Gold, who holds the NFL record for most field goals in the postseason without a miss. The guy is at 24 field goals in his playoff career without ever missing. Nobody's ever even hit 17 and he's at 24. It is insane, but no, I'll take Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] Uh, you call up every team in the league and say, what will you give me for Trey Lance?


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[Assistant] If Brock Purdy gets you to the NFC title game or the Superbowl, he's your quarterback. That's it. I think that you cannot say, you cannot send this guy to the bench. Your fan base will be up in arms. If they lose the divisional round, then I think- But what if he plays well?


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[Assistant] There is a reason a rookie quarterback has never made it to the Super Bowl. And I know he has better weapons, a better coach for his weapons than he's in a better situation than pretty much any rookie quarterback ever. It's just that when poop hits the fan, then.


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[Assistant] We'll see what happens. The Seahawks team is not that good. They played out of their minds for three quarters.


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[Assistant] And Brock Purdy did exactly what I thought he would do in the first half, which was, you're a rookie. You're probably going to come out and struggle because that's what rookies do. That's what a lot of quarterbacks do. Uh, when they play in their first playoff game, I'm obviously we saw it from Trevor Lawrence. We saw it from Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] And to an extent, we saw it from Geno Smith in the second half of this game. So it is just tough to play at such a high level to keep winning. And so, I mean, I said before.


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[Assistant] And real quick and don't forget that Kyle Shanahan has done a very good job, especially this year of just outsmarting, uh, the other coaches and being better in his division.


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[Assistant] So you look at the 49ers record with this win. They're 14 and 4 now. Uh, they're 7 and 0 against NFC West teams and they're 7 and 4 against everyone else. So, uh, you know, they, a lot of this is beating up on NFC West. They're a very good team and, uh, you know, it's just Brock party there. I'm not sure of the shoe bowl team.


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[Assistant] Lined up next to each other for a reason, Brinton, and willing it into existence.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're gonna start over at scratch if you're trying to get a quarterback fifth or maybe you try and get Derek Carr or


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[Assistant] Would you rather have Derek or Geno? Well that's what I'm saying, I would just give Geno the money.


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[Assistant] He ran your system really well this year. He got you to the playoffs. One thing we talked about a lot this year was whether or not a season would be a disappointment if it ended.


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[Assistant] Uh, with the playoff loss. If the 49ers had lost today, then the season's disappointment for them. It is the opposite for the Seahawks. Them losing this game, they could have lost 71 to nothing.


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[Assistant] And there was no way this season would ever be described as a disappointment because most people didn't even think they were going to win six games.


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[Assistant] And here they were, uh, in the wild card round after kind of just surprising everyone all year. So what the CX did this season was just nothing short of amazing and validated every decision that Pete Carroll and John Snyder made about, uh, dumping Russell Wilson and saying, you know, we're going to win with Gina. And they did.


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[Assistant] Uh, the 49ers, if the Vikings beat the Giants on Sunday, that's the first game, right? The Vikings win, then the Vikings play the 49ers in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] The Giants win, then the 49ers will play the winner of Buccaneers Cowboys, and if the 49ers play the winner of Buccaneers Cowboys, that game will definitely be played on Sunday, since the Monday winner has to play the following Sunday.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports, daily NFL podcast. I'm Wilbur, center of your host. It's the week 15 NFL recap. We're gonna break down Saturday and Sunday's game.


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[Assistant] We've actually reserved a, uh, I think it's a 17 and a half minute time slot for Ryan Wilson to talk about the world cup final. Very excited about it. It was, I'll be honest. Joining me by the way, Ryan Wilson and John breach. What's up boys? How you doing?


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[Assistant] It's like rude to introduce you and like to, to come on.


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[Assistant] Flu game, I guess you say you feel pale. You feel sick. You actually, you haven't eaten anything. You're throwing up. You're using the bathroom every 17 minutes. Uh, we're proud of you for fighting through it and coming out of this. I'm here. I've eaten


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[Assistant] Let's just leave that out of context.


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[Assistant] Honestly, like Saturday, Saturday nights, Saturday, all day, Saturday's football, NFL football was fantastic games. The craziest Vikings Colts game you could possibly imagine. Then you wake up on Sunday morning, you get this incredible


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[Assistant] World cup final that ends with Messi winning in PKs after, I mean, there were like seven or eight shots. It could have like just lasers that coming on in just great saves. And like the second that the world cup final ends.


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[Assistant] The NFL football kicks off and the one o'clock slate was so good. Two overtime games could have been three and then the four o'clock games.


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[Assistant] Were not, you know, there's less games, but they were still really intriguing and.


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[Assistant] Made a lot, made a lot of difference in terms of the playoff seating. So we're going to try and do some winners and losers who doesn't love winners and losers. And I would suggest humbly that the New York football Giants, Brian table, Daniel Jones, Saquon effing Barkley, who looked


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[Assistant] Like he's getting back there. I think, I think I would, if, if you can find Saquon Barkley plus money, comeback player of the year, you should bet that. Junior Smith's still the favorite. I think Saquon can steal this. Saquon was.


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[Assistant] You could see him, he's getting it back. It's perfect timing. He's in the contract here. Ryan Wilson.


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[Assistant] Are the, are the dreams of the Washington commandos dead and are the giants a playoff team?


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[Assistant] Whatever. Kayvon is unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Like if you, if we think Evan Neal is a good offensive lineman, then the Jets and the Giants smash this draft. To your point, Breach.


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[Assistant] That last play, the lack of a flag against the Giants on that play where Curtis Samuel was absolutely mugged multiple times is just egregious.


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[Assistant] And I think that like, this goes back to the bigger problem of, are, are the, are...


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[Assistant] Like is this, is this inconsistency the consistency we're expecting? AKA like.


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[Assistant] If it's the last play of the game, you could do whatever the hell you want and just.


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[Assistant] Grab someone, you know, and there was a, um, a penalty or Terry McLaurin to Terry McLaurin.


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[Assistant] So that he confirmed that the ref okayed his alignment before the snap. I pride myself on paying attention to details. So I guess, Breach, like, is this a like, is this a


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[Assistant] Why are we letting this happen at the end of games like this?


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[Assistant] I think the problem is that we have a, it's like the, it's the, it's like the rich local.


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[Assistant] Like a, like a local business that's, you know, you know, has developed a good, like whatever it is, it's like.


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[Assistant] They're not spending, the NFL is not spending money where it needs to be spending it to make sure that the product that everyone sees on these island games is sufficiently acceptable. Not even the island game.


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[Assistant] No doubt, but, but I'm saying we, we sort of gloss over it because there's so much happening in these spots and it becomes more noticeable in these Island games. And it's so obvious that when the NFL is dealing with.


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[Assistant] Five or six or seven games at once that the NFL officiating office cannot handle.


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[Assistant] I mean, we're watching, who's, who can't watch six TVs?


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[Assistant] Who can't hire enough people to watch six TVs worth of football, but you get one Island game and all of a sudden they're flipping every single call over left and right. And I don't want to make it about the officials because that, that kind of


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[Assistant] I don't know, I think that that game, I don't think that game was decided by that final play.


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[Assistant] There are lots of things that could have happened. It's just every freaking time.


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[Assistant] There's an island game, there's some kind of officiating that is just, goes poorly. Daniel Jones, first career win in primetime, previously, heard a seed of our crack. CBS Sports HQ research team, 0-9 a career in primetime.


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[Assistant] 12 passing touchdowns, 13 interceptions before. My goodness, that is terrible. Uh, but he got the win here and like, I, I do think there's a,


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[Assistant] We'll move on to another game. There's going to be plenty of NFC East discussion, but I do feel like this season has been by far away. And I think it's a credit to Brian Dable. It's a credit to the Joe Shane, the entire coaching staff.


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[Assistant] The best season of Daniel Jones career in the sense that he's played well, they've won games and he hasn't been a storyline or like a joke. You know what I mean? Absolutely. I agree.


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[Assistant] You know who else is a winner for this slate on Sunday? You know who it is, Wilson. Go ahead. You can apologize. It's fine.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, I'm not trying to peacock on Trevor Lawrence. I think my take was just perfectly reasonable. What was your take?


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[Assistant] My take was that Trevor Lawrence will be good. And that last year with Urban Meyer was kind of a wash and a wrench.


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[Assistant] But I'm allowing you to waltz back in to the Trevor Lawrence ballroom of exceptionalism, where we celebrate great quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] You've told me that Trevor Large was a loser. Peaked in high school. Peaked in middle school.


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[Assistant] Was a poor man's Justin Fields and a poor man's Mac Jones. True. Those are all true. And he would be working at a white castle in two years.


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[Assistant] And that he doesn't really deserve to be in the NFL. Would you like to engage?


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[Assistant] Prisker and I talked about this in the picks pod last week, Breach, and like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm really not trying to peacock here on Trevor Lawrence. I think, I think that it's very easy in 2022 when we look at these prospects to freak out after one bad year of a highly evaluated player and say, oh, he just can't be good. And.


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[Assistant] To me, what we've seen over the last four or five, six weeks of Trevor Lawrence breaches, like this guy is going to be an elite level quarterback to me at the worst. He's a pro bowl level quarterback. And if you're the Jaguars, I don't see how you can screw this up.


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[Assistant] I do, I think it does. I think we're going to win the division.


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[Assistant] Well, let's uh, I could tell you, but let's look at these two games sort of combined, right? Tennessee, the Tennessee Titans lost to the chargers on.


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[Assistant] And you talk about like, like elite level quarterbacks. Holy F that throw from Justin Herbert to set up the game winning field goal.


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[Assistant] You know, friend of the podcast, Austin Eckler, part was running back, was asked about that last week and was like, I, I don't even give that any recognition or something like that. Good for Austin. Good for A&E. You don't need to give. If somebody's trying to create noise,


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[Assistant] In order to raise their brand awareness at the expense of someone else's reputation, you don't need to give them any credit.


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[Assistant] Um, so the Titans lose. Chargers, Chargers beat the Titans by three points. Titans cover, by the way. Shout out to me.


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[Assistant] By the way, did I? Oh boy. I don't really, I don't really care. Uh, whatever. The Jaguars.


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[Assistant] There were like, there were like four or five plays by Trevor Lawrence in this game where you're like, oh my God, this is like, it sort of felt like he's,


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[Assistant] Like the stuff that Doug Peterson's been saying the last few weeks about the, not the light bulb coming on, but like the light bulb getting brighter. You could see it. Like he's way more comfortable. He trusts his guys out there. Just say Jones. Who?


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[Assistant] Listen, if you play football at ECU, you know, you can...


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[Assistant] Potentially be good, but you, you shouldn't be like an elite level wide receiver. And this guy is out here bawling like Trevor Lawrence is elevating his teammates.


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[Assistant] Against a playoff caliber team, one of the best teams we think in the NFC and.


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[Assistant] I don't want to rip the Titans because I think they were really banged up and they fought hard as hell and kept Justin Herbert pretty subdued.


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[Assistant] I thought he was, I thought he was better than the bench guy we thought who might show up and be like murdered by his teammates in the middle of the field guy.


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[Assistant] I think, I think there's a chance we get some like really like surprising spicy playoff matchups. And we'll talk about that when we do the playoff picture, but like we can get Jaguars, Chargers.


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[Assistant] The Browns aren't totally dead. Lions, Panthers, like some weird teams in the playoffs and I'm excited for it. I want it in my life. Need it in my life. Almost as much as I need. Dan Campbell, a massive winner on Sunday because


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[Assistant] The Lions, if they're starting 1-6, have gone 6-1. They were allowing 32.1 points per game.


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[Assistant] To the first seven games of the season, they've allowed under 20, 19.9 points per game, the last seven games.


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[Assistant] They're plus nine in terms of the point differential the last seven games. You can see all of this if you want to.


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[Assistant] On YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six. If you're watching live right now, smash the like button.


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[Assistant] Billy's in the comments giving away free Paramount Plus gift cards, so check that out. Hit subscribe and turn on alerts. Wilson, I


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[Assistant] Or grudgingly give you credit. You, you, you gave me credit for Lawrence Trevor Lawrence. I'm not saying I believed in the lions, but man.


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[Assistant] Like, I don't think there's anybody in the NFL that wants to play in this team right now.


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[Assistant] Wanna hang your onions on the table? No, for dead cable.


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[Assistant] Make sure you already have, if the, if the equals like 16 to 1, they have to, he has to get it right.


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[Assistant] They're actually, they're actually, yeaah. Kevin O'Connell counts too. There is a, uh,


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[Assistant] If, uh, uh, Drew Denson, can I break this down on the, uh, deep dive podcast before the season, but there is a.


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[Assistant] You can sort of look at the, and this is obvious if you think about it, it's the win totals before the season, which is essentially Vegas expectations for a team. How the, the, the team that outperforms their win total expectation or their preseason win total, the most typically ends up with the coach of the year.


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[Assistant] No, dude, if Dan Campbell gets this team in the playoffs, he... I'm not disputing it. I'm just saying, okay, I got you. I think it's a tough call. Like...


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[Assistant] I would presume that the answer is no. I'm going yes.


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[Assistant] Actually that does seem like a sneaky trick breach question. It is a sneaky trick breach question.


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[Assistant] Will Cliff Kingsbury steal votes away from Dave Campbell?


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[Assistant] In all seriousness, you do need to think about the fact that this year, unlike other years,


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[Assistant] There have, there, like, Pete Prisco, who's a voter, one of the 50 voters for these awards.


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[Assistant] Gets three, gets to write down three names for coach of the year. First, second and third.


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[Assistant] First place gets three points, second place gets two points, and third place gets one point. That's completely different from how they've done it before.


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[Assistant] And then like some guys vote for Dan Campbell first, he could steal it from Sirianni, whereas in the past it probably wouldn't happen. It's just worth noting.


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[Assistant] You guys kill me for this all the time, but I, I'm like, you know, like if you have a, if you're 15 and two and you're the number one seed in the NFC and you just run into a hot team in the playoffs, it can still be a good season. Now it's a disappointment, but it can be a good season. The Jets are in that, in that area. They are going to have a good season, but ultimately it may end up being a disappointment.


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[Assistant] Scott. Yes, exactly. Like they're related to Ryan can't stand that branch of the family.


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[Assistant] All right, let's take a break. And when we come back, we'll tell you why the dolphins, the Miami dolphins, despite losing on Sunday or Saturday, excuse me, are actually winners next.