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[Assistant] It works, right? But in a running play, it's really, really hard. If not, everyone up front's executing. You get some blocks on the second level too. Clearly the snaps, we gotta get that, have a good exchange on the handoff. You need a lot more things to happen to work well. And so I'm not saying that that's like a case against how that makes this argument, but I think what happens is,


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[Assistant] It gets a little bit muddied as far as like who deserves the credit for the success running backs have because you do have offensive lines that when you tend to invest in them.


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[Assistant] They tend to be offensive lines that they can run the crap out of the football. The Dallas Cowboys were one of those offensive lines that, whether it was Zeke, whether it's Tony Pollard, whether it's whoever wanted to put in that spot, like they all seem to be able to have some production behind that offensive line.


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[Assistant] So it, it ends up taking away from the production and the value of some of those running backs because you can put another guy back in there as long as he's fast, he can see the holes, he can figure out a cutback and understands the scheme. You know, he's going to be capable of doing that as well. So come to your point.


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[Assistant] I think they kind of like, it's all about where you want to put the value in the money that you have. And I think they just don't look at the running back position as being as valued unless you're truly a unique talent. Uhm, which I think a lot of people would make the case Dalvin Cook is.


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[Assistant] And maybe there's some concern with him because of, you know, his health at times and you know, his longevity and how that will play a factor. But it is surprising, like more of these guys aren't getting longer term deals, which by the way, I always have to say long term deals.


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[Assistant] It's like three years of guarantees that we'll see. And so like a long term deal for a running back, it's like two years of guarantees and then we'll see, regardless of the length of the contract. So it is funny to hear like the, well, they're not getting this long term deal. It's like, well,


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[Assistant] If they sign a franchise tag, they're basically getting one year less in guarantees than they would be otherwise in a long term deal.


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[Assistant] Last year they probably weren't up there as high because of Gino and the year he had, but traditionally they've been one of the higher winning percentage teams. Which, you know, again, you could say like, is that philosophy going to work? Is it successful? I mean,


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[Assistant] You're doing that because you're, I mean, you have to make a choice, right? If you're throwing the football more, you've got Patrick Mahomes, you've got Josh Allen, you've got Joe Burrow, you've got someone you feel really confident in, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, etc., Lamar, whoever.


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[Assistant] You know, but Lamar is unique because he's got that also dynamic ability running the football, but even they are evolving and changing, right? Like I don't imagine Todd Mungan is going to run Lamar Jackson as much as they used to run them. So, um, I think that's the hard part too, is like if you're putting all your money in your quarterback and the guys protect them, guys to catch for them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I don't know that, I mean, I don't know. Katie, do, do you think, I mean, okay, take for example, Katie, your favorite team is San Francisco. Now you guys got Christian Caffrey, but San Francisco has been known to like,


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[Assistant] Multiple running backs all the time. I mean, are you that upset when a running back moves on, especially when you've got like Christian McCaffrey or whoever's next? I mean, hell, half the time you guys want Devo Samuel to run the football.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a mismatch league, right? Like everything you go about game planning and what makes people excited is when everyone else in the division has to like basically have personnel.


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[Assistant] Stop that guy, right? So whether it's like the defensive tackles, whether it's the linebackers that can match up and pass coverage, you know, you force the rest of your division to go, oh crap, how are we going to handle this twice a year?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you force the people in the rest of your conference to deal with that. So yeaah, that's part of it.


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[Assistant] I would actually shift the conversation to another direction, because the question then becomes, like, if it's about, well, they've got wear and tear on them, uhm, that's why people don't want to, uh, invest into these guys longer, then I would argue they need to change the rules then allowing running backs to come out of college sooner.


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[Assistant] Instead of making it, you know, after three years removed from high school.


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[Assistant] Somebody needs to go back and look at it and say, maybe it should only be a year. Maybe it should be two years. You know, maybe you should allow guys like Maurice Oret, who first tried to do this, you should have allowed him the opportunity to go into the league sooner. Now, Greg, you know, I know people are going to look at how that worked out.


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[Assistant] And they'll say, well, you wouldn't go make it anywhere or whatever stupid argument people make, uh, because they, they don't really understand. But like Leonard Fornette, that's an example of a guy who after his freshman year, we watched them at LSU and we all said, that guy is going to go to the NFL and he didn't need to run and do anything else the rest of his college career.


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[Assistant] And, and instead all he did was have to probably take out insurance in order to protect himself and pay for that until the day he actually got drafted. And, and so, you know, when you, you hear running backs who, you know, are, are splitting carries in college,


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[Assistant] They're not even upset about it. At least most running backs that I've talked to, they don't care because they're like too great. I've got less wear and tear on me. As long as I showcase I have the ability to do so and I'm a dynamic player, I'm going to get in the league. And once I get in the league, if I show out,


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[Assistant] Like that, that's all I need to do. So uhm, I think that's a, that's, you know, people have talked about like running backs need to have a different union or something, or uhm, you know, people talk about how the union needs to protect them. It's like, no, that's not,


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[Assistant] Really what the union's designed to do and you can't differentiate running backs from everyone else. What you could do is change when players can enter into the NFL.


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[Assistant] And again, this is getting to a much longer conversation because, you know, we could talk about the XFL and spring leagues and you know, they lost what? 60 million this past year. And it's like, okay, well, when are we ever going to have a spring league or developmental league that lasts that works? And the only way of doing it is.


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[Assistant] Expanding the rosters, expanding practice squads and then having a spring league amongst, and this could be an interesting idea, relegated teams.


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[Assistant] So you force them to have to have this kind of like relegation league in the spring that ends up being too full. It provides us entertainment, but also provides development at the same time.


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[Assistant] So there you go, there's an idea for you how it could all work and instead of having the rock, do you smell what the rock is? I mean, he's, he's got 60 million, he's losing right now.


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[Assistant] I know, that's true. Although if we see him have to be in like two more movies, we're like, oh, maybe not.


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[Assistant] No, it's not. I mean, it's maybe tough on you mentally as far as what's your task with being aware of knowing the changes that you make week to week, especially in season.


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[Assistant] Uh, and sometimes you'll just, you know, especially even in game, draw stuff in the dirt or make some changes kind of on the fly where it's a little harder to do that at the college level, given what you're asking young men to do at that time. But, um, look, here's the hard part about it.


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[Assistant] Cause, look, he didn't get recruited by Nick Saban, you know, initially, right? He was transferred, he comes in there for a year. Obviously, you know, he's, he had a lot of success, it's been a first round pick, they highlight him.


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[Assistant] But he got a dose of what it's like to try to survive in a culture and a team that's trying to stay on top of college football because George has had their number the past couple of seasons, along with maybe some other teams, you know, making ground on them.


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[Assistant] And that's what Nick Saban likes to do it, but Nick Saban's been very successful doing it. I think there's a certain element too of having to.


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[Assistant] Kind of build some grit, some catalyst, some toughness at the college level where especially today and you see this more and more.


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[Assistant] And they really haven't done or accomplished anything. They just beat up on the kid who happened to play, you know, tackle, for example, that's never going to play football again, the rest of his life and segue into some other career. Yeah. Because they were so dominant doing it. They're a three star, four star, five star kid. It's like.


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[Assistant] Let's pump the brakes. In college, you start to really find out what you're capable of and develop into that sort of player and prospect. So there's probably a fair amount of like, Hey, this kid looks good on tape in high school, but so do a lot of kids. We got to put them up against the best that we've recruited and see what he's capable of.


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[Assistant] I get what Nick Saban does and is trying to do and a lot of other coaches have the same mindset, but an NFL practice is entirely different.


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[Assistant] There's some coaches who like, it's all about like the risk reward and they want zero risk. So everything's almost a walkthrough or they're never in pads. They don't hit anymore.


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[Assistant] And that's changed a lot over time. You know, it didn't used to be like that. There were times where coaches would punish you in the NFL and you'd be in pads on a Wednesday instead of, you know, being in shells, which is just helmet, shoulder pads, shorts, uh, or just, you know, shock vests and your, and your helmet and all that, which is really kind of like t-shirt and shorts and helmet. So.


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[Assistant] You know, there's coach who would punish you in that way and be like, all right, you want a reward, like go win a game and then you won't be banging the next week. So it all varies, but it's not surprising to hear someone speak out. I'm just, I'm surprised it's like Jameera Gibbs, a guy who was like just with Bama, just with Nick Saban and a team who, you know, obviously has had a ton of success.


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[Assistant] That, that, that, that's part of it. I think that plays a part and a role.


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[Assistant] I mean, Will said the formula earlier. I mean, you draft the running back in the first round.


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[Assistant] You're going to use the crap out of them. So yeah, they might be protecting them now in practice, but when you get into the season, like dude, they're at 17 games, you're going to be a lot of times, a lot of catches, a lot of carries. I mean, that's what they're expecting out of you. So it, it.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, you just want to get to the season as healthy as possible. Like the last thing you want.


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[Assistant] Is someone getting hurt in practice that's literally just, or even outside of that, you know, an OTA is this time of year where it impacts your team. But.


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[Assistant] NFL practices are as difficult as you want to make them. So, you know, some teams aren't even conditioned.


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[Assistant] Right? So like in between, you know, periods where maybe you're involved, maybe you're not, you know, sometimes because again, the roster size is smaller in college, you might never see the starting defense the entire week.


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[Assistant] Because everything's platoon. So you have a scout team you're working with on offensive defense and you're in several fields the whole times. Now, sometimes you'll have some competitive periods.


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[Assistant] In the NFL, it's not like that. You know, you've got some, you know, some guys on offense who are going to have to play or backups on scouting and service the starting defense and vice versa. And so you're kind of, you know, mixing and matching throughout the course of practice throughout the course of the week. And every once in a while you have some good on good periods as well, but usually not that often during the season. So.


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[Assistant] In order to make it harder, like you've got a condition in between drills. You've got to take it on yourself to get in more throws, get in more reps and do the things you need to do if you want to make it a harder practice. So I would say that's the biggest difference in the NFL is it's a big boy sport.


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[Assistant] Basically coaches are there to help you understand the game plan, go out there and execute, but ultimately you're responsible for getting yourself ready for the game. In college, it's entirely different. Like I think you go to college and like you learn how to actually learn.


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[Assistant] You know, like you understand like how you absorb information, how you apply it in class, also on the playing field too. And so those coaches are kind of there molding you more than when you get to the NFL, where they're more kind of there to help just facilitate like what you're capable of and help you get to that next level.


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[Assistant] And that's the last thing I say really quick, sorry, is, you know, at the college football level, it's, you know, there's, there's two elements to it in my mind. It's making sure you feel like your players know what they need to do in order to execute.


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[Assistant] And I also think there's an element of coaches needing to see out of the players what they think they need to see in order to feel prepared to go win. In the NFL, it's entirely different.


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[Assistant] Because you can have the worst week of practice and you get in a game and someone balls out. Or you have a guy who's like not even able to practice and has a game time decision, hasn't done anything all week and he goes and he plays and he's a superstar, right?


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[Assistant] Hey man, I know if he's there, he's a gamer, we're going to use him if he can make it. If not, no big deal. I don't need him to practice during the week, right? And so there's just an entirely different mentality. I think for head coaches in the NFL to feel good about things going into a game as compared to college coaches, like college coaches need to be like, man, we had one hell of a week of practice. All right.


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[Assistant] We were just banging and there were sparks and stuff flying and we are ready to go. And then you roll out on a Saturday and then lay an egg, right? Like that's just how it works.


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[Assistant] But in the NFL, it's like, it's a big boys league, man. Like, work hard, play hard, whatever that guy needs to do to get himself ready. We've heard about other star players and some of their pregame routines and the way they would go about preparing themselves to play.


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[Assistant] That's real. Like I knew guys who had what's just called unconventional ways of preparing themselves to go play and those guys were studs and they were very good. So like you didn't question it. You're just like, do what you ever need to do to go out there and play and play well.


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[Assistant] Look, universities don't want to be abused by that with social media and all the stuff that's going on too. That is not as, as egregious. Now the ability for players to hit, um, that's been adjusted and changed. And so there's a little bit more discretion on the coach as far as how they want to do it. But I look, I've also had coaches tell me this.


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[Assistant] They're like the last thing I need is a player to not be in full pads and then something happens where they get hurt. Where a pad, something would have stopped like a deep thigh bruise, something would have stopped, however, however it works out. And the other thing is, is like you really, if you ask a lot of O-line coaches, D-line coaches, they'll tell you if you're not in pads,


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[Assistant] It's kinda hard to get real work done sometimes. You know, especially for those guys. Uhm, and so, you know, there's varying opinions on that. And at the college level, look, you are


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[Assistant] You're in a developmental sport still, like you're, even in the NFL to some degree. So you need that time kind of hitting and banging in order, especially for the big boys to continue to develop their skills a little different for skill players.


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[Assistant] I'd lay a bet on every quarterback. I mean, I just, I'm not betting on running backs. I mean, Bryce Young, CJ Stoud, Anthony Richardson, like all these guys are going to be, in my opinion, week one should be week one starters. Bryce has already been announced.


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[Assistant] And it's a quarterback driven league. Like I just, if any of these guys plays decently well, they're going to outshine a running back. And especially if you're.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, in Bryce Young shoes, I mean, I just, I think he's going to go in there and light it up. I think he's, I think he's in a good spot, good position to be really successful this year. And Stroud is going to have some ability too with some of the guys they've got coming back with Metchi, you know, getting better and now being able to, you know, play a factor and all that. And so the pieces they've got down there in Houston as well.


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[Assistant] I was surprised looking at these odds, I really was. And that's why I was like, I'd lay money on Bryce Young and CJ Stroud right now.


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[Assistant] And again, but it, but it speaks to, I think the anticipation of like how much Atlanta is going to use Bijon Robinson, which is interesting because I mean, at some point you want to see what you have in Desmond Ritter. You've got Drake London, you've got Kyle Pitts. You'd have to think that like you're going to have to throw the football more. You can't keep running at the trend or the clip, at least they were last year.


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[Assistant] I think it's twofold. I think they feel like he's doing well, but maybe he's not ready to take over as that, that number one spot, like they had with AJ Brown. Um, and so you bring in Deandre Hopkins, who is that guy, especially, uh, went out there playing and you add in Traylon Brooks. It doesn't put as much pressure on him.


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[Assistant] Tannenhill is very capable of throwing the football around. It eventually gives Will Levis a veteran target to throw to that makes things easier on him. Uh, and obviously you still got Derrick Henry in the backfield. So.


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[Assistant] To me, I think it's a move of like, all right, people thought after the season, maybe they're in rebuild mode and anytime you get a new general manager, that's the initial thought.


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[Assistant] But it almost feels like more of an arms race for the division in particular with the Jaguars. Like, hey, we know Trevor Lawrence is emerging.


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[Assistant] We know they get Calvin Ridley this year too and they've got all these playmakers. We need to add someone as well if we want to keep pace and let's run, you know, the wheels off this thing while we still can, like while we still have Derek Henry, while we still have a quarterback like


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[Assistant] Ryan Tanner, no, it was a competent veteran who can get it done. And if, if it's not him, it's obviously will love us for the future. So, um, I think that's more of the play behind it.


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[Assistant] But I would love to see DeAndre Hopkins, uh, in New England. And it's like, back with Bill O'Brien. I don't know if that's like, good or bad.


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[Assistant] At least that was what was reported, right? I mean, a lot of things get reported on the outside. Only they, only those two know.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, you could almost, you could honestly say you kind of did him a favor because you got paid in Arizona.


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[Assistant] And obviously with the way things worked out in Houston, it wasn't like that was going to be a good spot to stick around in. So, uh, it actually, at the end of the day worked out best, I think for Deandre Hopkins, but playing under Bill Belichick in that system.


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[Assistant] Uh, just adding like another superstar to the AFC East. And plus I think it gives Mac Jones some legitimate help. Like you, it's like, you're almost trying to make up for what you did last year by Matt Patrice as the play caller and not really having as much help. Now you get Hopkins, now you get Bill O'Brien. Now it's like, okay, sorry, Mac, like we're trying to make up for what was last year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's like in between the lines there, you know, like probably.


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[Assistant] He went to a place that ended up going to a playoff game as compared to a franchise that like literally after you got traded away, went into rebuild mode, started to fall apart. The Watson stuff came out, right? If I've got the timing of all this.


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[Assistant] I mean, you could honestly look back and retrospect, go, Bill O'Brien like did him a favor.


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[Assistant] I know, but think about this. Now, maybe you got the Patriots want to break out, you know, a little extra two to break them off. So it's like, I don't know. Like sometimes you got to be careful about reading too much into thinking like, Oh, they had a bad breakup. It's like, well, not really. He got paid in Arizona. Now you might be getting paid again to work together. So you gotta be careful how you look at this stuff.


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[Assistant] So what moves the line more in the AFC South? Does it if Deandre Hopkins signs with the Tennessee Titans or...


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[Assistant] If, I guess this is for future years, or would this be for this upcoming year? Will the Jacksonville Jaguars potentially play?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's the only thing that you actually, uh, will get fined for as far as like what's your contract to go to. You can't get up to a six figure fine. We should add, we should add Stefan Diggs to this list.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Kenny just said that, but uhm, but.


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[Assistant] But for the other players, Daniel Hunter, Laurence Guy,


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[Assistant] Is they'll basically show up and say, I'm here, I'm present, I took a physical, I'm not doing anything else. And most teams will oblige that. And even for guys like Daniel Hunter and Lawrence Guy who miss it, who will get fined because they are under contract and they want a new deal.


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[Assistant] Most teams will wipe that away too when they do the new deal. So it's really not that big of a deal. I think the only thing that you miss out on is if you're a younger guy.


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[Assistant] You know, and you've got a new offensive install, for example, uhm, you know, that's going to be what you're essentially going to be doing again once you get to training camp. Like OTAs, minicamp, it's the exact same install schedule as what you're going to have when you get to training camp. It's just a review of what you did. You might have some wrinkles and some additions here or there.


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[Assistant] But for the most part it's the same thing. So it's, it's not that big of a deal at all.


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[Assistant] But you'd like the guys to be there, and for the players, like, your agent's usually telling you,


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[Assistant] Hey, the only way to get their attention is to not show up and you have to, you know, take a risk and not show up during a mandatory portion of this where you will be subject to fines. But if we get a new deal, we'll get that wiped clean.


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[Assistant] It's also two-fold. It's also an act of like, hey, I know we're not in a good place together, so I'm not doing, I'm not doing crap out here.


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[Assistant] Let's try to like figure this thing out. Now the one thing to that, not that it's a big deal.


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[Assistant] And, and Sean McDermott comes out and makes his comments about it saying that he, you know, wants him to be there. Of course all coaches wanted to be there, but here's the key about missing mandatory minicamp and doing what he did. You force the coach and potential general manager. Talk about it.


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[Assistant] Whereas if you show up as a player to hold in, you also have to kind of go and talk about it because it might get asked as well. And so it puts pressure on both of you, even though you're not out there doing anything. Whereas if you're not there, it puts pressure really only on one side, having to address it and figuring out how to manage this moving forward.


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[Assistant] You know, I was thinking of would be by the way, a great marketing skit for Stefan Diggs for like anything that he wants to pitch coming out.


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[Assistant] Like no one's really tapped into like, remember the whole family matters with Steve Urkel? Where like the cool version of him was still on? Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the tough thing about Stefan Diggs who's unique to the other guys is first to answer the initial question. No, no one's getting in the way of money. Like no, no one's going to say anything. No one cares. Like every single guy's like, you pay, you know, like that's my guy. Like you get back. Usually they're expecting a big dinner. They know there might get nicer gifts at the end of the year.


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[Assistant] But with, with digs, it's interesting because he's gotten paid. He's got a contract that really limits them from being able to trade them. Will could probably sort through the details, but it puts them in a tough spot where like you're wondering, okay, why is he not participating in this? Is it, does he want to be somewhere else? Cause that's going to be tough to do. Is there some frustration with.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that's where like, if you're Sean McDermott, you lean on Josh Allen here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that could be possible. I mean, it could be a combination of things. Like that's the thing is usually it's a combination of things that like add up. I think during players, it's never one like specific thing unless there's.


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[Assistant] Just a big time breakdown in between like a key figure, whether that's the head coach, coordinator, um, you know, quarterback, general manager, something like that.


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[Assistant] I'll actually drive with both feet. I'll be honest with you.


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[Assistant] No, it has nothing to do with that. I just feel like I'm able to accelerate, decelerate, drive faster that way. I mean, any race car driver will tell you, you gotta use both feet now.


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[Assistant] I had no idea and I was like, yeah, that's exactly why.


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[Assistant] Uh, person in the history of this, the Pixix podcast or the, the CBS sports NFL podcast, whatever iteration in it, believe me, right? You know, you know, corporate, they like to move things around. They've changed the name a few times with the only person in the history of the show to secure an independent sponsorship


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[Assistant] Uh, in the form of, was it, was it death metal records? So was it?


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[Assistant] Very quickly that, um, my, my son, Robbie, who's nine.


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[Assistant] That's not the price of a match up per se. Like these are just, these are like, you have to, we created the match up ourselves by making it, uh, Burrow who's 600 across the entire NFL.


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[Assistant] And Herbert, uhm, or excuse me, uh, Alan is 11, uh, 11 to 1. Like those are the, the prices for leading the entire NFL, but we're, we're sort of picking between them. It's not, you get 600.


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[Assistant] I was kind of expecting when I looked at the numbers to see that, uh, with Ken Dorsey calling plays and Brian Dabelgaugh on that.


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[Assistant] That we would see maybe a little more about like, and I thought this before the season two, I thought Sean McDermott might sort of put his thumb on that offense. Um, uh, but they actually had a, uh, they had a 5.9 pass rate over expectation third in the NFL. Uh, that means basically how many times did they expect you to pass? Were they in and above or below that?


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[Assistant] And the only team with the team that was above them at second was the Bengals at 7.6. Um, the two things that sort of swayed me here.


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[Assistant] Uh, one, when you look at the formations that the, the Bengals were using in first down and sort of the way that they attacked it, 82% of the time and 11 personnel first down, Phil's just 65% of the time. I think Sean McDermott will want to run. Um, and then 66% of the time in shotgun on first down for the, for the Bengals. And then the other thing, if Burrow comes into the season.


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[Assistant] That we might see Sean McDermott sort of try and conservatize the offense a little bit. Um, very curious to see how that play calling works and, uh, you know, and if, and if you're like this digs thing is lingering a little


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm going to Herbert with the 750. You add in Kellen Moore, you expect you'd see some more deep shots and like the pass rate stuff is really confusing with the Cowboys and the Chargers when you look at it because the Chargers were jacked up.


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[Assistant] Top five in the league last year, the Cowboys actually had a negative pass rate over expectation.


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[Assistant] The adequate in Johnson. I know that a lot of folks are saying he's just Mike Williams 2.0. I didn't think both those guys can be bigger play threats, even if they're not speed receivers per se. Jalen Guyton still there. Herbert throws.


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[Assistant] Maybe Alan can throw it further. Maybe Mahomes is going to be more accurate most of the time.


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[Assistant] But Herbert is deadly down the field and I think adding Kellen Moore there is going to get you get to stretch the offense a lot more. Um, you know, they, they don't really have this traditional running game per se that they can lean on. And to your point, JLC, Brandon Staley is 80 reads out of the hot seat.


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[Assistant] He can do whatever the hell he wants in that offense. Now the, the chiefs were the number one in the league and pass rate of expectation last year over 10%. Uh, that's probably going to dip down a little bit. They were 9% ish each of the last two years running ball around 66% of the time.


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[Assistant] That's just how they, excuse me, pass the ball around 66% of the time. That's sort of how they roll. But if they do lean into Pacheco, they do try to, you know, minimize what, what Mahomes has to deal with. And now they're also, they've already shown, Hey Tyree.


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[Assistant] You're gone. We don't care. We can lead the league in passing guards and passing touchdowns without you. You know, they've done that. So I think this is going to be a little more desperate team in the chargers. And if the Kelly Moore, uh, Justin Herbert thing clicks and the deep ball action starts working, this is a guy who could definitely lead the league in passing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, this is like, too, I, look.


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[Assistant] I like Tua. I think he's a very good fit. Might be Daniel's scheme. Sort of operating as a point guard, you know, left-handed. Uh, like who's a famous, do we have a obviously famous left-handed point guard that I'm, that I'm forgetting about? Um, but you know, like, like, uh, I was just thinking like, you have the left-handed point guard. He doesn't need to be.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes, he doesn't need to be Brett Favre, you know, he doesn't need to be this, like he, he's a distributor, right? And that's his job in that offense. And with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle, we said it before the season, like get the ball underneath, let them do the damage with the yards after the catch. It's going to bring defenses in, you can go over the top. It all makes sense.


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[Assistant] I don't see how you can trust two in a play an entire season. And at 15 to one to lead the league in passing is crazy. I mean, the Dolphins did, you know, it's pass rate of 64%. Jaguars are 61%. Um, basically, you know, pretty even ex in terms of expectation of like the amount of passing that they would do. But


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[Assistant] To JLC's point, you add Calvin Ridley, who is a legitimate number one wide receiver when he's not making parlays and redacted.


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[Assistant] Everybody wanted to write off Trevor Lawrence as a bust after one year, ignoring the fact that Urban Meyer was the biggest train wreck in terms of NFL coaching history. And so this is not Trevor Lawrence's.


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[Assistant] Third year. I mean it is, but it's really like his second year in a functional NFL system. And I think there's a very good chance he takes a big leap forward. I got to like 15 to one and the divisional stuff too. You have potentially three other teams in that division who have okay defenses.


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[Assistant] Or decent defenses, depending on Tennessee. Maybe I think Houston, we'll see if anybody takes step forward. I don't think they'd be great. Gus Bradley's involved in one of them, but three rookie quarterbacks. If those rookie quarterbacks are in games where they're losing, they're going to be allowed to chunk the ball all over the place, which is going to crank up the number of passes for Trevor Lawrence in that spot.


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[Assistant] You can, you can see it again. We talk about this a lot with these odds, these futures, these single category situations. The books have shrunk the top of the board, just like they have in golf.


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[Assistant] They don't want to get torched by, uh, they don't want to get torched by, you know, these, the, the sort of the deeper sleepers, uh, or they don't want to get torched by missed pricing guys who could end up being deeper sleepers. And that's why you see so many people under 20 to one when that's really just kind of absurd.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I, I do think too, like with the addition that you had Rashad Penny, you had DeAndre Swift now in that trade. Maybe those are two guys who I think you could probably say, or maybe a little more, uh, red zone pounders then, or like red zone receiving in the terms of Swift. Um, then, then maybe you would have seen with miles Sanders. And I agree with you. I think.


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[Assistant] They saw, and you know, they made the Super Bowl of course.


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[Assistant] But the risk they ran last year with hurts getting injured late when they essentially had the number one seed all sewn up.


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[Assistant] Wait, some of the, some of the responsibility for that red zone rushing off of him. And to your point, the NFC much easier, you know, they could, you know, Katie won't want to hear this, but if the 49ers can't forget the quarterback situation and, and the Dallas offense stagnates with Kelly Moore leaving and, and Brian shot, I'm coming in. I mean, the Eagles could run away with the number one seed.


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[Assistant] I'm actually kind of perplexed that this line is heavily juiced to the under at 11 and a half, to be honest. Um, even with, you know, we're making these arguments like.


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[Assistant] Variable and sort of hard to predict. So I'll take the lower number if I've got to do that versus try to fade, uh, jail and hurting.


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[Assistant] Is a guy they traded for mid season and immediately became the focal point of their entire offense, whether it's banged up rock Purdy or CMC's old boys, Sammy Darnold or Trey Lance, whoever is starting for them the first few weeks of the season, they are going to want to ease the workload on


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[Assistant] The quarterback in San Francisco, McCaffrey is going to get, he's, they trust McCaffrey around the red zone. They know that he is capable of, you know, taking a beating and like, but they're not going to crank up his, you know, they, they make sure to give him.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, this is a team that Kyle Shannon isn't like an analytics guy per se, but I do think they understand the importance of giving Christian McCaffrey high value.


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[Assistant] Lower impact touches. So like, they're only going to really pound them up the middle or utilize them in these, you know, like aggressively downhill running schemes when they've got the ball in the red zone. You know, most of the time they're going to get them out, get them out in space, you know, because they know what kind of player he is. So.


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[Assistant] It's a no-brainer for me. McCaffrey six and a half versus mix it. I, I, the mixing line is confusing, honestly.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, they've got, um, you got my, they got Michael Carter there who they used a fourth round pick on in 2021. Not a, not a huge deal. Uh, they have my boy bam night there as well, who actually ran extremely well last season. I think he'd get some run, but yeah, I mean like hall halls, the guy, if this, you know, if this hack it running, if the, you know,


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[Assistant] What is this, what is this offense going to look like, right? Is it going to be a ton of running the ball? And can you lean on Breece Hall that early? Is it going to be Aaron? I don't think it's going to be Aaron Rodgers chunking at the ball all over the place. You said, you know, so he doesn't, he doesn't mind getting the ball to playmakers and letting them do the work. And he's got Lizard, got Michael Hardman. He's got his boy.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I think that you can make the case that Hall's a better pick here because if you're going, if you're going to be, if you're going to have leads and we presume that the Jets will cause they're expected to be a better team than the Texans and maybe he ends up, you know, get them. I'm still going to go Pierce. Uh, I'm going to go with Pierce because of the health. He had that ankle injury, missed the last four games should be fine.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't think Devon Singletary is their guy, even though they added him. And I think the Texans will be a lot better than people expect this year. Um, you know, neither one of these is extremely appealing to me, uh, just cause the injury to all of them.


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[Assistant] You know, it's not, wouldn't be crazy. I'm going to go Henry here. Um, don't, I mean, I don't, it pretty big numbers for both of the guys who again touch the red zone touchdowns can be, um, you know, you're,


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[Assistant] You know, you're, you're, there's a lot of facts. It's not something you can easily predict, but both these guys.


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[Assistant] Should normally get carries in the red zone. The one thing that worries me about Taylor is you got Anthony Richardson there now. I mean, you know, he's getting hyped up already, which I assume means that they expect him to be the starter. Shane Steichen offense is already dealing with Jalen hurts. You're going to run them in the red zone. I think they'll try and let Richardson score as much as possible to justify the pick that they made there. And then the Henry thing too, like he could be traded, right? I mean, he's in the final year of his contract. And I mean, why not ship him to?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's like, it's like the Bills, the Javes, the Eagles. Like it's like, yes, I mean, I think, I don't think it's crazy to suggest that Henry could end up on a team that is in the playoff mix that has leads late in the season. And then that's how you sort of pilot those touchdowns too.


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[Assistant] He could also get to 10 touchdowns in the first five weeks of the season. It's just the way they, I mean, cause they did that two years ago. Uh, I think he ended up with.


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[Assistant] I had it up a second there. I think he ended up with like eight touch, eight rushing touchdowns a year that he broke down, but they were like on page for like 500 carries that year. And so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's kind of the, there's a, there's a tricky part of it. They're probably going to run him into the ground early in the final year of his deal. They do want to, I think, I think, I think you're right. I don't think they would care if they stink this year. And even if they drafted Levis, they'd be willing to go Caleb Williams or Drake May. Um, and then, you know, it's, uh,


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[Assistant] I like the, I just, I just love, I can't, I, you know, every time we mentioned Jeff Saturday, it's hard not to be like, remember when he was like, I asked Jim.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean look, when you look at the offensive player of the year award, it is...


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[Assistant] Oftentimes, um, when an MVP has a really great season and there's nobody else who's totally deserves it, the quarterback can double up. Now that's a lot less likely to happen with the new voting system that they have in place. Top five for MVP, top three for the other awards. But you look at it and it's, it goes to somebody who's on a winning team.


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[Assistant] The law of 330, the football outsiders talked about for years. If you have more than 330 carries, you tend to break down often. Now we thought Derek Henry was going to beat that law and then he got hurt two years ago. He came back. He had a monster season last year, the Jefferson Cup. Um, and you know, we've seen three running backs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Todd Gurley won it in 2017 and Derek Henry in 2020. All three of those guys had otherworldly yardage and statistical seasons on really good teams. Derek Henry has had an otherworldly yardage.


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[Assistant] Uh, s- s- statistical season on a really good team, and he won the award! He's unlikely to win it if the Titans aren't good! And...


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[Assistant] Same here, we've only seen two repeat winners of the Offensive Player of the Year award. Uh, Marshall Falk actually won it three times in a row, 99 to 2001. And Earl Campbell, who I think also won back-to-back Heisman trophies.


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[Assistant] Didn't he? Am I crazy for thinking that? I feel like Earl Campbell, he won offensive player of the year from 78, 79 and 80. And I feel like he won back to back Heisman Trophy awards, but I'll have to look that up. Uhm, the only person who's won.


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[Assistant] Oh, maybe that's right. I wonder what Campbell did in college. There was something he did in college. Anywho, uhm, the point being,


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[Assistant] When you look at this award, the only person who's actually, uh, won it twice in the span of...


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[Assistant] Five years, I believe, because Brady, excuse me, Peyton Manning has a couple of these, but they were pretty spread out from, you know, 04 and 2013 on different teams. Um, Drew Brees picked it up in 2011 and 2008. Uh, Tom Brady did too, pardon me.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's really just an award that if you're a great, like if you're a great quarterback who doesn't win AVP, you might get it or otherwise it's going to be like the top receiver. And Jefferson is awesome. There's no question about it, but this is not an award that you're going to see. There's a lot of, uh, voter fatigue.


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[Assistant] The voters are going to want to award this to somebody else. It's unlikely to be Jefferson again. And you see the Vikings are three, three to one or greater to win the division. Whereas the Bengals are favored to win the division. It wouldn't surprise me at all if chase picked this up. Uh, everyone loves Justin Jefferson, of course, but tomorrow chase is a much better pet.


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[Assistant] Taylor had 332 carries, 1800 rushing orders. There were, there was like MVP chatter for Jonathan Taylor down the stretch of that season.


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[Assistant] And so that's sort of the pathway here where it's like, you don't know what the deal is with Adams and his quarterback. Um, he is, you know, he's been paid. He's.


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[Assistant] He's, he's in Las Vegas. I don't think he's getting traded. I'm with you and you're going to lean on your running back when you've got that rookie quarterback. Uh, we saw.


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[Assistant] To Katie's point a minute ago, Miles Sanders blew up in that spot and that changed taking offense last year. Taylor makes a lot of sense here at 20 to one. I do think, you know, you just, you're, you're running the risk with a, with a, with a.


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[Assistant] So pun intended where they running back that where you just, you know, like we've seen them rewarded for it, but it has to be an epic, epic season. I mean, again, Taylor, 332 carries, 1800 yards, 18 touchdowns, 360 receiving yards and two touchdowns and got 10 votes to Cooper cups, 35.


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[Assistant] Yeah, easy Lamar, especially when you talk about this new offense. I mean, you know, Todd Monkin.


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[Assistant] Uhm, is, I was talking to, uh, my buddy Tyson who actually played at Navy and was sort of, we were just sort of discussing like the triple option and how it, you know, like it can work better at every level of football than anybody gives it credit for. And then also, you know, talking about like what if Todd Monkey comes in and blends the option and the air raid?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what, that's what I was going to say. If you bet Lamar to win OPOY, bet Lamar to win MVP too, because it would be a dagger if Lamar won MVP, but then they give the offensive player of the year to Nick Chov or, or some, or Travis, anybody out there and like,


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[Assistant] We have seen it. Barkley has a monster year running back a monster year. They will get it. Uh, this is a no brainer situation for Lamar here, especially because


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[Assistant] We could see where Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes, um, any number of quarterbacks wins MVP and then Lamar gets offensive player of the year because the Ravens finished second in the division. Joe Burrow wins MVP and Lamar gets the offensive player of the year. If you don't win your division, you typically don't want MVP. So that like, I like this bet. I mean, it's a blowout for Lamar.


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[Assistant] I mean, I want to go, I want to dip down a little further and you know, one of the, I mean,


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[Assistant] Patchable Holmes at 25 to 1 isn't crazy. Like, I mean, he's just, he wants, I mean, he's going to have a great year if he plays the entire season. We think he will. And he won MVP last year. We've seen voter fatigue, a real thing. They're hesitant.


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[Assistant] You know, it's sort of a Drew Brees situation where Mulholland is just too good. They give me MVP, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, I think, I think those two options would be pretty interesting as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's worth noting too that uhm, just, it's just interesting. The last four years we've seen three wide receivers in a running back win the award. You sort of wonder is this becoming


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[Assistant] Are the voters shifting away from, okay, this is the most exciting offensive player to we're not going to give an MVP award to a running back or a wide receiver. So this is the best running back slash wide receiver. And then before that, Mahomes won it. He was the unanimous MVP in 2018. Uh, Matt Ryan and then cam Newton, you know, there's three quarterbacks who've won it recently.


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[Assistant] And Peyton Manning in 2013 as well, just like clear cut, um, you know, guys for that award.


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[Assistant] It is not a bummer that Brenton's not here, Katie, cause first of all,


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask you that real quick. Sorry, it's just, it's really, really early to bring this up and try and start a QB controversy. Do you think Desmond Ritter, I mean, obviously he is going to be the week one starter. Do you think he is the undisputed starter for the entire season or do you think they would get to a point?


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[Assistant] Week 8, 9, or 10, be like, alright, this is a lost cause. If we want to have any shot at the playoffs, cause we'll say every team in the NFC South is under 500 at that point, so you're not out of it. You think they would turn to Taylor Heineken? You think he's an insurance policy, or do you think he is just the true backup who only play up for it or gets hurt?


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[Assistant] The Falcons ran. I went to a Cheesecake Factory two weeks ago and that menu is absurd. Huge. A great analogy. By the time


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[Assistant] You get through the whole entire menu, even if you even make it that far, you're ten times more hungry than you already were. And then you feel like you have an appetite, it's just insane. Okay, but with Arthur Smith, it feels like...


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[Assistant] He's running one of the most unorthodox offenses we've seen in the NFL. And I think that's a big reason why we saw so much success from the Falcons last season. Sure, they went seven and 10, but I mean, they were, there were two or three games there. They probably should have won, you know, week one against the saints, the, the one with the bad rocking call against the Buccaneers with Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] You give them those two wins, they win the division. And so I think it felt like they caught a lot of teams off guard and kind of surprised opposing defenses. Cause I think some people might be wondering, like Katie was just asking why draft of John Robinson. And it's because Arthur Smith, it just gives them a little, another toy to play with and to throw into this unorthodox offense, but also feels like maybe he's trying to create an offense.


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[Assistant] That's kind of what he's trying to do and by getting these guys in there and taking pressure off Desmond Ritter since you don't know, uh, you know, whether, how good he can be.


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[Assistant] $100 right now and said go bet on one of these four teams to win MC South. Would it be the Falcons?


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[Assistant] It's crazy because the one thing I will say real quick about the Falcons is just that it does feel like they have probably the first or second best roster in the division.


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[Assistant] But also probably the worst quarterback depending on how you feel about Bryce Young right now because I would take Baker Mayfield at this point over Desmond Ritter and obviously Derek Carr and so there's that conundrum of


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[Assistant] Just, you know, we started the podcast off with, you don't know what you're getting in Desmond Ritter. So, but yeah, man, it is, the Falcons look good and yeah, I would do the same thing with the thousand dollars. Maybe we should do it well.


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[Assistant] I will ask you, Will, since we didn't really talk about the defense, uh, just real quick, you know, we're looking at adding Jesse Bage, Jeff Baku. This really feels like a very underrated defense, and I know that that necessarily hasn't been a strength of the Falcons over the past few years, but


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[Assistant] Would you agree that this defense feel, could be pretty stacked this year? Cause that's what it feels like.


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[Assistant] One, uh, actually I have three remarks.


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[Assistant] I've podcasted so many times with Ryan Wilson and John breach.


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[Assistant] In the past that when people say like the gangs back together, like they did missing.


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[Assistant] You can be like, Wilson, you can be like, Wilson has been in this pod in three months. I'm like, what? Uhm, two.


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[Assistant] Uh, is Scott van Pelt going to sue us for one big thing and then three.


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[Assistant] Is one big thing something that the team is missing or something about the team? I'm confused.


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[Assistant] You think there's a chance in hell I'm listening to this podcast while I'm on vacation. You've lost your mind. No offense to any of you.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, we'll start in not just alphabetical order, but we will start.


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[Assistant] In terms of my rankings, which, uh, actually maybe up Thursday, but you can tear up my full, um, team by team, full the Brinson model, trademark me.


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[Assistant] As uh, projected wind turtles for every single NFL team.


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[Assistant] You know what? Actually, I was gonna say we started the Atlanta Falcons since that's alphabetical, but I see that we may have a Panther screen coming up, so we'll go with the Panthers first instead.


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[Assistant] Uh, to save Billy from having to reload a different graphic.


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[Assistant] And I think the Panthers is pretty obvious. If you're talking about one big thing about the Carolina Panthers, it's quite simply Bryce Young. Now you could go either side of the coin if you want here.


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[Assistant] I'll defer to our junior draft analyst Ryan Wilson, uh, in, in discussing how Young fits in with the Panthers.


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[Assistant] I'm going to say until he's actually named senior draft analyst, which he should be based on the hierarchy and his time spent at CVS and the number of times he had to podcast with me. Um, plus the daily or like twice or three times a week verbal beating he gets from Rick Spielman. It's just brutal on a with the first pick. Brenton is our sophomore draft analyst.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well from junior. I'm really more like the third, third freshman year. A high breach, by the way. Um, so anyway, Bryce Young is the one big thing.


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[Assistant] If it's Bryce, it's either Bryce Young because he's the answer at quarterback and the Panthers suddenly have life. And you feel like this team, which has been dead last in NFL passing touchdowns, interceptions thrown and passer rating over the last four years combined, as you can see on the graphic youtube.com slash NFL and CBS. Whereas


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[Assistant] If Bryce Young is not the answer, he's also still the big thing. And if this passing game doesn't get going with Frank Reich and Bryce Young-Wilson, uh, boy, oh boy, will we have some questions to ask.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I think we have the Panthers or the Falcons winning the division.


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[Assistant] I actually have the Atlanta winning 10 games in my simu in my, in my model, my projections.


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[Assistant] That's right. And the Panthers winning eight games. I had the Panthers originally at 10 and then sort of did some manually tweaking. I didn't love the computer results. Uhm, that's a great way to model things by the way.


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[Assistant] That's right. I'm going to check out for y'all. Um, the, uh, the Atlanta Falcons third most rushing yards per game last year behind just the bears.


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[Assistant] And the Ravens, the big difference between those teams is that the Bears and the Ravens had two of the two of the most incredibly or most incredible Russian quarterbacks in the game. Although the Ravens missing Lamar Jackson for a big chunk of the season. Justin Fields, of course, monster. You're on the ground Atlanta to me.


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[Assistant] Has basically created a, a Titan's light down in, uh, down in, down in the Georgia Dome and they got B John Robinson in town. I look at their, uh, I look at their, you know, overall roster on offense. I think, man, like.


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[Assistant] They signed, you know, they signed Caleb and Gary and Chris Lindstrom to, uh, extensions this off season.


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[Assistant] You bring in Matthew Bergeron, who's a very good run, uh, run, uh, uh, you know, uh, uh, run, run game guard or tackle is here. He's moving inside the guard, I think. Um, and then you have Jake Matthews still there. So like, there's no reason with Drake London.


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[Assistant] And Kyle Pitts and then Matt Collins is a nice little mix up deep threat that this offense can't be good with B.J. Robinson added. So I guess my one big thing is what's up with the defense? Hmm.


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[Assistant] I just think, I just think you look at what the, I think you look at what the Titans did on offense. Um, when Arthur Smith or Heyday was like, and I didn't realize they have Derek Henry, that's a different beast, but Bijan Robinson, they drafted it like he's going to be a feature back.


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[Assistant] We only took the good stuff from Winsor Wilson and removed the bias, the lethargy, lethargy. Okay. And, uh, and general failure from the Winsor Wilson model and plugged in the good stuff into the bridge.


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I guess will be the next team. Good thing I got.


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[Assistant] Admin capabilities of this graphic by the seat of our pants here. Um, Buccaneers, the one big thing is, uh, what's life like after Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] Cause I think that's where they're at, right? Like this massive cap hit breach.


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[Assistant] They don't, I don't think they know what they're doing, where they're going or how they're going to get where they don't know where they're going right now.


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[Assistant] Like their offensive lines, Kevin shambles. I got Baker Mayfield in a one year deal.


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[Assistant] They believe in Todd Bowles, I guess. I'm not sure that they totally do and I could see them.


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[Assistant] Maybe thinking will stink while we write out this Brady cap hit. Let's lose a bunch of games, get a top pick, land Caleb Williams or Drake may and be a very, very enticing coaching job for someone else after this season. What say you?


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[Assistant] The dramatic drop here on the screen from 2006 to 2020, the Saints won 63% of their games and scored 28 points per game and they have won 47% of their games in the last two years.


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[Assistant] That's Drew Brees left, including, uh, your last year, seven and 10, I believe with, uh, without Sean Payton, just 20.4 points per game.


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[Assistant] The big one big thing is Derek Carr. Like is Derek Carr enough to upgrade this offense? And I would even maybe sneak in. There's a corollary Wilson. Are we?


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[Assistant] People, people asked how I quote, still have a job, told me I quote, right with my ass, that I'm quote, higher than Denver itself, and someone, a 49ers fan, most likely a Katie Mox burner, even said,


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[Assistant] Any, any, anybody, any of those stand out the, there are a lot of clown emojis. Uh, right. You right with your ass kind of got me.


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[Assistant] Go to instagram.com slash NFL and CBS. People are asking if you want to see them. They are pretty funny.


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[Assistant] Anywho, uhm, so yeaah, Saints, eh, I think the Saints might, everybody's kind of penciling in the Saints to be this team to say, Oh, this division stinks. They're probably the best team.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, they lost her. I think they lose her defense. I think Ryan Nielsen jumped to the Falcons. It's just a whole lot. I don't know that I trust the Saints the way that people think the Saints should be trusted.


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[Assistant] I think the Packers have a lower floor and a higher ceiling and, um.


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[Assistant] My thing is like the Packers, I know Aaron Rodgers was to say he was basically done, but like they could have, they could have said we're going to go with it. You know, they said it could have said, all right, we don't think Jordan love is ready. We're going to go with Aaron Rodgers this year and ride out this contract and just let him be pissed off and not show up for training camp or, or OTAs. Um,


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[Assistant] A hundred and, uh, we'll say over, under on yards, 683 and a half. That's not bad.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then, uhm, for touchdowns, I'll actually say six and a half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was about to say like the fact that golf is only four years older than ended hooker is pretty wild considering golf's on his second team. And, um, I think that the, if you can get a deal where it's like, um,


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[Assistant] I mean, like, I guess, like a Derek Cardial or a... If you can get Jared Goff to sign an extension that's really team friendly and gives you an out, like after two years or three years, or really two years, I guess. You have an out after two years. Yeah, the contract ends. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And the fact that you bring in a Hindu hooker who is a veteran, et cetera, like it doesn't, it doesn't, you know.


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[Assistant] It just doesn't, it doesn't scream like they're desperate to get into the quarterback. So I kind of like the idea of.


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[Assistant] So I was going to pick, I was going to pick somebody else and then the Princeton model spat out the lions as the winner. So I had to go with that.


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[Assistant] No, B.O.'s perfect. That actually, you're right. Keep it.


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[Assistant] By the way, Winsor Wilson, you know, you can't, it stands for, wow, this sucks. Go ahead, Ken.


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[Assistant] I think, I mean, I think the 49ers really quickly, I also applaud you, Katie, for not going with the easy layup trope of like, oh, the quarterback. Cause I mean, Trey Lance can be good. And as Wilson points out, like,


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[Assistant] A breach points out, it's like if the right tackles a problem, like it might not be enough for trailer to overcome. So uhm, yeah, I think quarterback is the biggest question, but definitely not the biggest weakness.


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[Assistant] Who's closer do you think? By the way, do you know, do you know the, um, do you know the, the last time that the, do you know the last player and it attacks you? There's two answers. Um,


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[Assistant] Last players, do you have double digit sacks for the Seahawks and what year it was?


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[Assistant] And Jaron Reed both had, uh, Frank Clark at 13, Jaron Reed had 10 and a half in 2018. As recently as like two years ago, three years ago, uh, Jamal Adams led the team in sacks and three or four years ago, the team was led in sacks by someone who had four.


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[Assistant] So this is a bit of a problem for the Seahawks. Couldn't agree more. They need to get pressure upfront. Jamal Adams coming back is a big deal. He, he rushes the edge a lot for that Seahawks team. Uh, but not, you know, you, they just need more pass rush. That's just the bottom line. They find that and they could definitely figure out a way to win the division. If you know, things don't go perfectly for San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Do we think Sean McVeigh and the offense that the Rams ran is, is what we, do we think Sean McVeigh's offense is what we saw in 2022 or what we see in his entire coaching career?


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[Assistant] Like his ability to fix an offense and to get the offense to work and to make subtle changes. I mean, to me, it's like, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] That's it for the Rams. They had it and it's over and it's gone. Like they still have Cooper Cup who got hurt last year. They saw Matthew Stafford who was hurt all of last year. They will improve the offensive line. They will get some more weapons to me. This is a team that is prime for a bounce back. I have been losing their first three games of the season at Seattle, San Francisco at Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] And still finishing nine and eight, thanks to what I think is a pretty good, you know, cause I've been beating Indy on the road. That's crazy. Philly at home. Don't think that's crazy. Lose Arizona or split with Arizona.


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[Assistant] Beat Pittsburgh at home, lose at Dallas, win at Green Bay, beat Seattle at home. I didn't lose it to Cleveland at home, losing at Baltimore, but then they have Washington, New Orleans at the Giants and at San Francisco to close out. You know, it's possible San Francisco in this particular instance isn't, you know, doesn't is resting their starters.


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[Assistant] I think, I think people are just completely glossing over the Rams and just how.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've got the Cowboys winning the division, uh, the Eagles with a tie break, uh, 10 and seven a piece.


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[Assistant] I mean, like Dallas, I keep having this nagging feeling. Mike McCarthy said that, um, and Billy, the chat is for you to, to discuss with the listeners.


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[Assistant] I know that's like, you don't need, you're supposed to be, you're an NFL and CBS brand. You're not some Eagles hawk in there, man. Come on.


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[Assistant] But I think like with the Cowboys, you know, we keep like, Oh, Mike McCarthy wants to run the damn ball and Kellen Moore is gone. I know you've got Brian Schottenheimer, but like if the Cowboys offensive line is good.


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[Assistant] And I still think they're probably going to bring back to see Kelly. By the way, Malik Davis look awesome. Deuce Fonz like probably, you know.


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[Assistant] Serviceable option to help out too. Tony Pollard is not ready. They got Ronald Jones. Who knows if he makes the team, but like man, I mean.


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[Assistant] You're a little glitched. I'm just saying like. He glitched. Like, look, look, the Cowboy, Dan Quinn's defense has been fantastic since he got there.


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[Assistant] I was running through the Cowboys, I was like, man, I mean, there's like 13 win upside here. If the offense isn't, you know, stale. I like the Cowboys a lot this year. What are your concerns, Breach?


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[Assistant] You're taking, you're taking the Eagles top two over the Cowboys top two.


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[Assistant] And if you throw, if you're throwing in, you know, obviously Dallas Goddard, you're probably going to take the Eagles over the Cowboys. But I think it just in terms of receiver, like I love AJ Brown. Like he's my, like a, like a child.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, no, I'm just saying like, I think the, there's this weird assumption that the Eagles are just gonna, it's like,


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[Assistant] Well, one, Jalen Hurts got hurt last year and they didn't win any of the games in which he was missing. He runs the ball a ton. They're missing their offensive coordinator. They're missing their defensive coordinator. Eagles-Hermers will tell you, now that Jonathan Gannon's gone, we can finally unleash the defense on people.


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[Assistant] Clearly, clearly, San Francisco fan, uhm, the, look, the, you know, wouldn't mention you had to play, they didn't, they didn't look that great, and I think-


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[Assistant] Running back room, the DeAndreSwift trade, uh,


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[Assistant] I specifically mentioned that Kellen Moore was gone and that they had Brian Schottenheimer in place. Pay attention! Keep up, senior football!


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[Assistant] Uhm, the running back room, like I think is really interesting with Rashad Penny and Deandre Swift, but.


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[Assistant] Miles Sanders, very underrated job last year, I believe, and let me just double check.


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[Assistant] That's fine, I don't care. Uhm, that's pretty par for the course in Hammerland. Uhm, adjusted games laws? I was trying to find it on...


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure Philly was one of the healthier teams in the league is the point I'm getting at. And so like, you know, you, I mean, like that's just something that tends to progress towards the mean sometimes when you win a bunch of games.


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[Assistant] That's more likely, but some weird stuff happens in the NFL. Also, like, as Breach points out, they're like, wow, we'll just win one this year. Okay, sure, go for it. That's, that's easy to do.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, uh, the Brinson model actually disagreed with my personal preference here, which is to have the Giants win the division.


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[Assistant] Now that Brady's not there. You know when Tom Brady's there, you are a Super Bowl contender. Everybody thinks you can win.


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[Assistant] And now I know over the past few weeks, we've seen Tristan Morse come out and say, Hey, look, this team can go 12 and five without Tom Brady. Uh, Carlton Davis made some comments that, Hey, we can be a wrecking ball without Tom Brady. Would you say that's kind of the mindset over the past few months that, Hey, look, just cause Tom Brady left, doesn't mean this team can't be good in 2023.


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[Assistant] When you look at this team, I mean obviously the one training camp battle that everyone nationally is going to have their eyes on is at quarterback.


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[Assistant] With Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask and obviously there hasn't been much, you know, we had our OTAs and mini camp. Would you say either of these guys has a leg up in the competition right now or do you think we won't know anything until we really get into the harder training camp?


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[Assistant] And real quick on Baker, you know, obviously he has a big personality. How has he kind of ingratiated himself with the rest of the team in the few months he's been there?


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[Assistant] Yeah, when it comes to receiving duos, it seems like the Buccaneers are pretty set. You have Chris Godwin, you have Mike Evans, obviously. Russell Gage now.


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[Assistant] There's a bigger question mark it seems like on the offensive line.


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[Assistant] Where, you know, there's gonna be a couple new starters. You have, uh, Shaq Mason, Donovan Smith leaving in free agency. You have Tristan Wirf switching sides at tackle.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I think Gattake now moving to tackle Gar. It's just, there's a lot of question marks, a lot of new guys in new places. How has that looked so far? Does everybody look comfortable? Cause it does feel like the offensive line is going to be one of the biggest question marks this season.


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[Assistant] And real quick, I think a lot of people forget that Ryan Jensen did not play a single snap last season. You're talking about, you know, Tom Brady not having his veteran center and the team still plays well enough to win the division, make the playoffs. So that obviously a big return, but real quick on Cody Mack, do you feel like he is someone?


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[Assistant] That will end up in the starting lineup. Are things kind of projecting that way? Or do you think he'll be in a battle, uh, to get into the starting lineup for week one?


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[Assistant] You know, you talked about earlier about how players are really good about figuring out a way to play with a chip on their shoulder.


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[Assistant] Do you think the defense will be playing with the chip on their shoulder? Cause it really feels like at least from a national perspective that people are kind of sleeping on the Buccaneers defense. I mean, we're talking about.


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[Assistant] A unit, Levante David, Shaq Barrett. You have Antoine Winfield back there. You know, you guys just mentioned Vita Vea. They're throwing Kalaja Kancy in there. I mean, it feels like a pretty stacked defense, yet you just don't hear much about it. And maybe that's one of those chips that these guys can be playing with.


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[Assistant] Well, it does seem like there's one question mark real quick, Katie, and that's Devon White. You mentioned his name a little bit earlier. Uh, what's the relationship like with him right now? Cause obviously, yeah, that the trade requests earlier this off season and it feels like he wants a new contract. So what's kind of the relationship between the team and Devon White right now?


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what, I'll throw in one last question because I'm a special teams guy. You guys have a kicker battle going on. I love kicker battles. Chase McLaughlin, Rodrigo, Blankenship. What have those two guys been like, uh, you know, mandatory many camps since they've been in there?


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[Assistant] Bring that uh, bring that, bring that video of Aaron Rodgers back up real quick.


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[Assistant] And now scroll to the right, please not down to the right.


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[Assistant] That's what we're looking for. What's that trending? What's that number one trending topic? Is that Zach Wilson? I see it is indeed Zach Wilson trending there, uh, which if you're watching on YouTube.


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[Assistant] You don't really need to be because you could be listening to a, say, Zach Wilson tell you that Zach Wilson is trending, um, the visual, but thank you for the visual. That was helpful. Um, I think that this is not, this is not a situation where it's like, Oh, I should have went and got him. It's.


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[Assistant] It, it, it simply speaks to the fragility


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[Assistant] Of NFL seasons, particularly when you have a heavy investment in an older quarterback and like that's.


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[Assistant] That's just the reality of the matter. This applied to Tom Brady the last few years. This applies to Russell Wilson and the Broncos last year. It applies to Russell Wilson and the Broncos this year.


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[Assistant] You can make a good trade, a trade that is objectively an intelligent maneuver, and you can still end up poorly for you. Like the Browns when it got to Sean Watson.


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[Assistant] Anytime you go out and trade a lot of assets for a veteran quarterback.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, that's fine, that's fine. Chiefs, yes, obviously. Uhm, Chargers, I say no. Broncos, no.


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[Assistant] Vikings, Lions, Packers, Bears, no Bucks, Panthers, Saints, Falcons, no and Niners. So you have six teams that are like.


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[Assistant] And the Niners, like, we need to see it with the quarterback too. Yeah. But, but, but just given the NFC, given the NFC, like,


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[Assistant] Wow. Do you do you agree with Captain Spock that the Jets are a good chance of the biggest show carders playoff show carders in full history?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I agree that the Jets are that makes because of Rogers. Um, coming out of the AC makes it tough. The point. The point for me is just that he's an older quarterback. He's playing on a field that


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[Assistant] He's had some injury history before. He's playing, he's playing in a new place with new trainers, whole new, there's a lot of changes and that can...


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[Assistant] It can be difficult to walk that tightrope sometimes and, uh, Rogers.


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[Assistant] This is not an egos podcast. I mean, it's like the egos have already won the interstate. Congratulations.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, maybe the greatest athlete of all time. I think he won eight rushing titles. Is that right?


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[Assistant] Uh, the only time I ever interacted with Jim Brown, because I didn't play for the Cleveland Browns, uh, was actually at a s- I did not. Um, hey, buddy, Houston.


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[Assistant] Uhm, of course, no one can forget his memorable role in Mars Attacks as well as one of the, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm not saying anybody should sign for any certain number of years that you're on this earth because you want to max it out as much as possible. But if you make the pro football hall of fame and you play for, I believe he played for what?


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[Assistant] You know, like an activist, um, and what he did off the field and what it meant so much. I mean, what are the all time greats? Yeah. No brainer Hall of Famer three time MVP rookie of the year.


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[Assistant] I think multiple, all decades team won the, won a NFL championship as well. All 1960s team.


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[Assistant] Hey Brady, if you were a coach in the NFL, I think you should be. I think you should be a head coach in the NFL. I think you could do it right now.


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[Assistant] Uhm, don't, don't really do that kids, but, uh, I'm curious, would you, if you were, if you were designated, so like, let's say you're coaching the, uh, 49ers, right? And that's because this is the team that we're, you know, we're talking about, right? You have Trey Lance. I guess you would have Trey, I guess the Niners already have their guy in Sam Darnold as their, as their third emergency quarterback, right? Um,


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[Assistant] If you get to the playoffs, this is I guess the way I'm trying to ask the question. If you get to the playoffs,


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[Assistant] But who like, do you think we'll see some coaches say, all right, we're going to have this like.


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[Assistant] Totally random, not random offense, but like maybe like a read, like a read option style offense with our third emergency quarterback that if we're forced to go to this guy in a playoff situation, break glass and pull out something that the defense isn't expecting at all.


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[Assistant] Do you think we'll see maneuvering like that in terms of the playoffs and stuff and how coaches will approach it?


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[Assistant] I think Ian Rappaport reported that like basically every special teams coach in the league didn't like the idea. A lot of coaches didn't like it. Roger Goodell really wanted to do it.


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[Assistant] Right. That's why kickers don't, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's not surprising. You know, if they're, if they're like podcasting is illegal.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, uh, do we want to briefly, I guess we'll take a break and we can come back and cover Super Bowl in the draft.


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[Assistant] And then I was going to retire because my first draft would have been Cam Newton and then Cam Newton wins the Super Bowl. I walk off in a blazing glory and yet here I am. You're stuck with me. Anyway, the draft is going to be held in Lambeau field in 2025. How cool is that?


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[Assistant] That's a blazer and a pink shirt. Not even kidding. We walked through the tenderloin because we got dropped off by Uber and you're just like, ah, um, I would also, it's a Brady Brady and I are going to go to a cool bar. Uh, when we hang out at the Superbowl, we're going to walk through the tenderloin at two in the morning. Like we did last time. I didn't do it. It's Pete Prister did it.


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[Assistant] Now the year before in Arizona, at Super Bowl 49, we'd seen Mark Davis eating a plate of french fries while wearing a white jumpsuit. And every single fry he was dipping in ketchup and just holding over the jumpsuit as he ate it. We'd like do like 10 of us just like staring like


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[Assistant] Dadgummit. Actually, you know why I trust Gary when he says he's gonna get done? Cause he wants Dan Snyder to-


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[Assistant] I must have missed this episode when you guys talked about the Bezos rocket. I don't recall that. Are you serious?


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[Assistant] Yeah, if we're like, if we're like, you know what we were looking for in our former professional


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[Assistant] Uh, football analyst to join the podcast. Like we're really hoping for a guy who played defense, uh, shorter.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, weak arm went to a, uh, a little unheralded public school and college. Um, you know, just some of those things, you know, maybe like this is somewhere other than Florida. We're just looking for not to be specific here. Just looking for some things about this guy. I mean, he would say kind of, uh, Jojo Hopkins is like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I just want to go to a franchise with decent ownership and sufficient management.


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[Assistant] What about who doesn't, isn't obsessed with Call of Duty? That was really specific.


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[Assistant] It's just insane that he's like, he's like a quarterback who loves the game, a quarterback who brings everybody on board and pushes not just himself, but everybody around him. Like, dude, it's just an absolute slap. Can we just not talk about the Eagles too? Just one show.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And it's, you know, Tom Brady notably over the course of his lengthy Patriots career from 2001 through 2019, right? Uh, took significantly below market deals. So if he were to suddenly get a great deal on a, on a, on a chunk of the Patriots, it would absolutely look like


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[Assistant] I don't know if it'd be collusion, but uh, what would the term be Brady? Like incentivizing, basically you'd be incentivizing Tom Brady to take less to give you a competitive advantage over the salary cap by saying, I will give you a chunk of the team when you retire. If this happens and this happens. And so.


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[Assistant] You know, um, Clark Hunt could go to Patrick Wilholms and say, Pat, Hey, Pat.


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[Assistant] We signed you this 10 year deal. We're restructuring this off season. I want you if you'll take this, this and this, which is less than what the market value of quarterback contracts are. We'll promise you down the road a chunk of the Chiefs when you retire, you know, because you've already won two Super Bowls with the Chiefs. Yeah, like to Brady's point, it would take somebody on that type of path to pull it off.


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[Assistant] But it would be such an issue for the CBA for such an issue for the salary cap and


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[Assistant] Former players may not purchase an ownership stake in...


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[Assistant] Yeah, or like you have to wait 10 years or something like that, or like you have to buy it from a separate, like, because if Tom, well, like if Tom Brady wanted to buy the Patriots from Robert Kraft 10 years from now, I don't know how that would work. You know what I mean? But I agree with you.


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[Assistant] It's Jimmy said, listen, Jim, um, you know how you tried to usurp me in New England and, and then I got you kicked out at San Francisco and you did okay, but I still did better than did better in Tampa Bay and all of that. I just want to let you know you've been released and all of your guarantees are gone. So the next time you mess with me, uh, don't and I'm now the quarterback for the Raiders.


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[Assistant] And I think it's interesting too. So like, let's say hypothetically, Jameson Williams, who's been suspended six games for gambling on college football inside an NFL facility. He goes, he leaves the facility of the lions in May. He decides he wants to bake a bet on week one, whoever, like, uh, I don't know, Michigan's playing, right? Some, some, he wants to bet Michigan minus 39 against someone.


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[Assistant] Hawaii. Yeah, exactly. Whatever it is. And he gets in his car and he drives out the stoplight to leave the lions facility and he's sitting there waiting and he starts to place the bet, but he doesn't realize he's still on the lions Wi-Fi.


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[Assistant] People working with the sports books, I think they have, they have third party guys and they have guys within all, every single one of these legal sports books who know, like you have to use your real name. You can't register as like blah, blah, blah. And like as an account, you have to use your real name. So they know these NFL players that have these registered legal sports betting accounts. They can track them.


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[Assistant] That's a whole different ball game. That's your coach's issue. Like if you've got guys who have got phones out betting on college football, that's one thing. So they just, they, they need to figure out a way. There's just too many.


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[Assistant] You try to bet it, it's like that side is blocked by the NFL's gambling team firewall. And then if you turn off the wifi and make the bet anyway, then you probably deserve the six games.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with the OG crew of Will Brinson, Ryan Wilson, and John Breach. Today is our bold predictions show. As always, keep it locked with us all week long.


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[Assistant] for your NFL offseason co this week as we have show


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[Assistant] I don't, well, I like Below Deck as well, first of all, but I don't want, I don't really listen to a lot of murder mystery podcasts, but I, every single documentary out there I have seen, serial killers, murder mysteries, you name it.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, before we get started, we only have Wilson for a short amount of time. I thought we could warm up our juices a little bit with some NFL draft trivia. I'm going to ask some questions. There are multiple choice. If you know the answer, go ahead and throw it out. So we're starting off slow here. What year did the first NFL draft take place? Was it 1906?


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[Assistant] Brock Purdy was awarded the title Mr. Irrelevant in the 2022 draft, but who was the last quarterback to be taken very last in the draft? Was it Tay Crowder, Caleb Wilson, Chad Kelly, or Grant Stewart?


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[Assistant] Which of the following players was not selected number one overall? Was it Calvin Johnson?


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[Assistant] Which of the following quarterbacks was not selected before Tom Brady in the 2000 draft? Was it Giovanni Carmazzi, Todd Husek, T. Martin, or Spergenwind?


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[Assistant] Alright, so, uh, Ryan Wilson, you are the champ. Although, I-I do have to...


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[Assistant] I thought that Wilson had more. I mean, I thought that, uh, Brinson had more. I always mixed them.


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[Assistant] Alright, that was a tough one, uh, that last one. Good job, Breach there. Okay, so we're gonna start now with our very bold predictions. And Ryan Wilson, you are on the clock. That was good, by the way.


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[Assistant] And who your team could be eyeing next year, download and follow the with the pick six podcast wherever you find this one. We're taking a quick break. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's, let's, let's wrap this up. We got to see, uh, Wilson on HQ later tonight. Make sure you join us tomorrow night to recap the first round of the 2023 NFL Draft. And of course, remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. And you can, uh, catch Wilson and I on HQ at 6 PM. We'll see you then.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to the Pick Six Podcast, CBS NFL Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach.


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[Assistant] Today we're discussing NFL future bets to make right now. Aaron Rodgers and his beef with Green Bay and the never ending Tom Brady retirement news. Of course make it, make sure you keep it locked with us all off season long for


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[Assistant] Any news that you will need for the NFL, subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio, download, follow, leave a five star review, tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. You know the deal. Obviously we're already having a hard time speaking today, so this is going to be a fun one. Brinson and Breach, how are ya?


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[Assistant] Imagine after a couple cocktails, even if you don't know how to play the piano, I can just see you on there getting all like Elton John on us.


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[Assistant] Did she try to teach you and you just didn't want to or she just didn't even bother?


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[Assistant] I know, uh, Brady said that he looked like, uh, Galifianakis the other day, which a thinner version, we should say. He said he looked like a thinner version. Uhm, but yeah, especially with the hair like this, you can see. The only song I know on the piano is, what is it? Is it Chopsticks? The doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo


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[Assistant] That's my piano lesson, uh, for the day. All right, fellas, uh, this week.


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[Assistant] Kicks off 100 days until the NFL season and our friend Cody Benjamin wrote an article on cbsports.com titled 100 things to know with 100 days until we one kickoff news, notes and odds for all 32 teams. So you'll want to check that out. However, we thought we'd put a little


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[Assistant] There's one comment I have to read before you start. Douglas says, I think Princeton will be more of a Jerry Lee Lewis than an Elton John. And I could, I could see that great falsifier.


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[Assistant] And I never went. Oh my God, I gotta, is it over now or not yet?


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[Assistant] I like that. I like them to win the division, but I wouldn't bet them to win the Superbowl again. Breach.