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[Assistant] It just got ugly and they turned the Broncos. You know what though? Ryan Tannehill actually looked good. The Titans. This would have been a big win for Denver because you're dominating a first place team.


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[Assistant] But I think I've brought this stat up before. There have only been 15 games this year where a team has won a game scoring 17 or fewer points.


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[Assistant] And how many of those 15 games you think the Broncos have been involved in?


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[Assistant] To a guy who caught his first career NFL pass ever. He had never caught a pass before.


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[Assistant] That, that sounds right. And so, how frustrated do you think their defense is getting? You give up 17 points, you think you're gonna win, uh, you completely shut down Derek Henry, who only had 53 yards, you think you're gonna win, and your offense just capoots and falls all over its face. So I would say, look, the Titans didn't play that well, but they won.


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[Assistant] Uh, do I start with my winner or my loser?


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[Assistant] Do you think that Christian McCaffrey was like going home tonight thinking, man, this dude just got off IR and they traded mad draft picks for me and they gave EY Mitchell more carries than they gave these. EY Mitchell is good, I just think.


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[Assistant] How many games they played? One or two? Two, and they're two now. They're two now, yeaah. I knew they were buying there, so I wasn't sure if the...


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[Assistant] The Chargers had 52 yards of offense in the second half, and you can pin that on what


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[Assistant] I think the Hispanuses will sit down at the end of the season if they don't make the playoffs and say, hm, how can we sell a bunch of tickets and make money? And it might involve hiring Sean Payne.


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[Assistant] No, yeah, I, I definitely agree. Like, especially when Doug Peterson was here and we lost Frank Wright.


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[Assistant] It was just like, especially when you saw Carson Wentz start to decline, especially coming back from that injury.


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[Assistant] The whole thing was like, oh, like, you know, Carson Wentz doesn't have his guy. He doesn't have Frank Wright anymore. Like, why would the Eagles ever let Frank Wright go?


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[Assistant] To see everything fall into place how it did and now him, you know, being released and not being the head coach of the coach anymore and having, you know, somewhat some success with Philip Rivers, I would say. And then just seeing the decline after that is just kind of.


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[Assistant] Disheartening and questioning like, okay, so like how good was Frank Wright really? Because he had Carson once on his team and we thought when he got him.


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[Assistant] That, you know, Carson once was gonna find his game again and that just didn't happen. So what?


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[Assistant] Did Frank Wright really do to help that Eagles team win a Super Bowl? That's, that's what I know Philadelphia is worrying about and thinking about. So I really just don't know. But uhm, yeaah, it's just crazy how things have all panned out.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I'll ask you guys this. Do you feel like the Colts weren't successful because of coaching? Because that's why I brought this up to Ryan before we started up the show, is that like, I didn't feel like the Colts weren't successful because of poor coaching. Like, you can look at the, uh, you can look at the Raiders and be like, they're not successful because of coaching. You can look at, uhm, the Carolina


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[Assistant] People look at the Carolina Panthers, they're good because coaching is not good. I would say...


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[Assistant] That the coats weren't good because of coach, coaching. They weren't good because of personnel, which lies with more so Ursay.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I'm your host. Happy Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] I'm not at my parents because traffic was too bad. I didn't want to be late for the podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Pack up all the stuff, drive along, it took two and a half hours to get to the high point for me, it's ridiculous. But you know who this is Paris House?


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[Assistant] I actually know, um, uh, I have a, I have a buddy of mine who doesn't have a middle name. It's kind of crazy. And he's the fourth too.


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[Assistant] Like Kobe, RIP Kobe. Um, I don't know. There's no telling where this episode could go. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I don't want to start. Okay. I look, I gotta, I mean, I think that where you are sitting at your mother's house, you're wearing what I'm not fascinated by. You're okay. Look, you are wearing a Notre Dame quarter zip. You got some nice glasses on.


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[Assistant] An extra highlight of my Friday evening, uh, every Thanksgiving is getting to hear you call it. And then I could text you.


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[Assistant] Um, so if you're not, if you're not watching this on YouTube and youtube.com slash pick six, you can go and watch it. I'm just saying that you're set up.


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[Assistant] It just, it just looks like it's, so there's a Brown's helmet behind you. There's a picture of you throwing a football, like a big picture of you, like a, um, you know, there's a, and you didn't win the highest. Did you win the highest?


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[Assistant] See, uh, unfortunately for us, uh, actually all the athletes in my family sort of petered out about two generations ago. Uh, my, uh,


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[Assistant] But we, we do have, um, my mom has sort of a same room that, like, that you've got right there. Uh, it's mostly like third place, uh, swimming, swimming meat ribbons. And, and, um, and then I think like, there's like a duck I shot once. There you go.


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[Assistant] But I really, I just, I like the whole vibe of that room. And I think, I think you, I think you look happy to be there and you're going to have a wonderful Thanksgiving with your family. So that's coming. I'm just kidding. Zach Wilson benched. This is, this is.


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[Assistant] It is surprising to me. Okay, let me ask you this. Wilson and Breach and...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think selling too, I've been kind of banging the table to binge sack wheels for the last few weeks. And my whole thing is like, look, he's, he's in his second year.


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[Assistant] He's, he's, you have to give him the reps to find out if he's the guy. He's five and two.


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[Assistant] How much, what percentage of the benching do you think is related to his very tone deaf comment, the no after the, after the game on Sunday?


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[Assistant] Uh, they want to, once every, once every, uh, 20 year thing with the Browns and the, and Joe Flacker. I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] And again, like I understand if, if, if Robert solid met with his defensive players and this is, this is just my, this is my assumption and it could be wrong, but I, I feel like what happened is he met with those defensive captains or the key leaders in the defensive side of the room or maybe just the captains and whoever it is. And everybody was sort of like, yeah, the vibe is not real great right now on it.


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[Assistant] And so he decided to go with Mike white, um, and to sort of end the distraction there. I don't like the fact that.


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[Assistant] This team just played the Patriots twice in the Bills and the Broncos the week before that.


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[Assistant] So you have four games, the Broncos, the Patriots, the Bills and the Patriots. Those are three of the top.


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[Assistant] 10 easily defenses in the league and probably top 5 based on which metric you want to look at.


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[Assistant] And then you yank him out of there and you put Mike White in against the Bears who are a terrible defense. Like I think that's, it's sort of, it's, it's sort of like when you fire, you fire Frank Reich and then you got the Raiders on deck.


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[Assistant] It's just, you're just, I think it's misguided in the sense that they are setting...


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[Assistant] I don't know if it was with you, I mean, I know we talked, I'm sure we, I'm sure we talked about that. Um, just because you know, that's something you and I would talk about, but like, I definitely remember talking, I think it was maybe Sully. It was sort of like, if it's like, this is hilarious, but if he's playing poorly,


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[Assistant] It will 100% be used against him and that is just, that's just the nature of the business and it's unfortunate. And, um, yeah, so I like.


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[Assistant] McFarland came out and basically said that Zach Wilson can't be accountable because he comes from a well-to-do family with money, which is


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[Assistant] Did, by the way, just really quickly on this, did you, I didn't remember this. I don't know if you did. Do you remember the beef that Phil Simms and Steve Young had back in 2005?


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[Assistant] Unexpectedly still in college, but in college. It was a victory lap, a victory lap. Right, a second victory lap. Uh, the, uh, so, um, Steve Young,


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[Assistant] It was on Monday night. No, he's on a, um, okay. So he was on Sunday NFL countdown on the ESPN.


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[Assistant] And question basically Chris Sims toughness. He's like, his dad was one of the greatest at being tough and handling all the, this is like again, like 17 years ago, but it's amazing. I really grew up in a much different atmosphere, laissez-faire kind of atmosphere. And I'm worried they didn't have the middle toughness to deal with the information overload that comes with the NFL until I see that week after week, like last week, I'm still not a believer.


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[Assistant] So Phil, our colleague Phil Sims, who I think is like one of the most underrated, hilarious guys on the planet.


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[Assistant] He's doing a, he's doing a media thing before the Thanksgiving game. And he says, he goes, uh,


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[Assistant] He said, you know, Steve follow football more than one day a week. And you might know some of these answers and then proceeded to go.


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[Assistant] That's fantasy football talk. There's one thing I know my son doesn't lack is toughness. He didn't grow up in a laissez-faire atmosphere. Far from it. Come to my house, live with me and let's see how laissez-faire it is. I don't know how Steve Young lives his life, but I don't live mine that way and I don't raise my kids that way.


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[Assistant] You can say whatever you want about my son, but one thing that will get me mad and I'll stand in your face about it is about toughness. Who the hell can be tougher than him physically or what he endures? Uhm, and then the article ends, Young said he called Phil Sims and left a message. I'd let Phil Sims raise my own kids, Young said.


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[Assistant] But if you, if you messed up and you did something, like, it's not like a, like, we're not like prancing around, like, I know everybody's like, oh, Vincent prancing around with the oysters, like, no, like, yeah, we, you know, like.


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[Assistant] Eight regular season games with the Rams last year after being traded from Cleveland at week 10. 3.4 catches.


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[Assistant] 38.1 yards per game. He actually had five touchdowns. It was kind of crazy, but like he, he'll help, but he's not going to be like.


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[Assistant] Uh, where would you slot Dallas and San Francisco?


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[Assistant] Earlier, I can't remember what day it was. Maybe Monday, Tuesday. I hate the Thanksgiving week schedule. I love Thanksgiving. Hate the schedule. Uhm, I think, man, you can make the case that like, like six,


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[Assistant] Maybe seven, if you really wanted to reach teams in the NFC could get, like get to the super bowl.


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[Assistant] I just have a hard time seeing anybody but Kansas City or Buffalo getting through right now. Don't get me wrong. It could happen, of course, like the Patriots and the Ravens and the Titans, the Dolphins. I mean, I think you make the case that like any of like take 12 teams in any Super Bowl matchup that you pick from those 12 teams wouldn't be that insane if it actually ended up happening.


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[Assistant] I think the Giants and uh, you can go read it on cbsports.com, Tyler Sullivan wrote about this, but like the injuries and just sort of the fact they've been, you know, they've been


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[Assistant] And you know, Daniel Jones has been not making mistakes, but what if he started to make them last week? It just feels like maybe that's a pumpkin Cinderella situation.


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[Assistant] But they're, they're right there. Um, Seattle, if the playoffs were to be Seattle at Minnesota.


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[Assistant] The Giants in San Francisco and Dallas at Tampa Bay, which is.


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[Assistant] And if you're Dallas, you're like, are you effing kidding me? Like really? That's the draw we got. Um, I think Washington is really intriguing. Detroit.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a quick break and we come back. We will discuss whether or not Big Turkey has infiltrated this country and for how long it's happened next.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay, so I mean, my family does not eat.


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[Assistant] He would, he would say that I have no accountability. I'm sure. Um, so we used to go down to Jacksonville, Florida.


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[Assistant] For my mom's families, there would be a huge potluck style thing where like a hundred people would bring dishes.


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[Assistant] We had, I mean like turkey, you know, like every, everything like the full spread. Um, so I'm fine with turkey. I don't think that like the Pilgrims are cooking turkeys though.


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[Assistant] No, sorry. So ham is big here too though. In fact, um, down on six force road, which is right down here. There's a, you don't know, there's a honey baked hamster.


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[Assistant] Thanksgiving and Christmas, the week of Thanksgiving, the week of Christmas, they have to put a sign up.


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[Assistant] So I think, I think maybe the argument for the ham is, to your pals, whoever said it, the consistency is interesting because like turkey, I mean, dude, you can screw up a turkey. Like you can, you can overcook a turkey pretty quick. I'm a big fan of the deep fry. We deep fried a turkey at, um, at a teahouse the other day. I, we actually, cause we were playing, um,


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[Assistant] We gotta sacrifice the turkey to the football gods.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because the Hokies. I actually convinced a lot of people that we were deep frying in live turkey.


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[Assistant] Which is insane because one, they have like, like feathers.


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[Assistant] But like, this goes back to my point about the pilgrims. I mean, man, cooking a turkey is a lot of work.


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[Assistant] Why I have cell phones not allowed. Okay, you sit around and let the molasses do.


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[Assistant] I would say that like I get like amped up about some green bean casserole.


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[Assistant] Like I'll do, like I'll do like a, um, like a, like a, uh, a chocolate, like a, like a, you know, nice, um.


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[Assistant] That's sort of like same consistency as the pumpkin pie, like a chocolate mousse pie or whatever it is, that's fine too. But yeah, my, my, um, my grandmother, rest in peace, Tosh, used to make delicious pumpkin pie and


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[Assistant] The best freaking chocolate. Susan actually made the chocolate chip cookies and brought them down there, but like.


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[Assistant] Oh, yeah. Well, you would always drive down to Jacksonville. I was so sorry. This like we would drive down like my favorite things. Um, we drove to Jacksonville and like Wednesday morning, maybe you gotta be out the door at five a.m.


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[Assistant] Bob Brinson, it's 515 buddy, you're climbing the cord, you're PJs and you're wearing your PJs the whole way down to Jacksonville. Tough, tough crap, pal. Uhm, like I said, uhm, drive down to Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] And then we both be asleep by like the end of the fourth quarter, uh, first quarter of the, like the second game. It's just, I just have a fond memory of sitting in that living room.


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[Assistant] I think he's almost like there already with the three game win streak, just cause he's been to 2017.


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[Assistant] Especially when you lose like seven games in a row. It's not, not great. Um, I think if you knock off the bills here, one, you're like, you're like, look, this, the culture is working. The defense is coming together. We did it.


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[Assistant] Shout out to, uh, Evan Silva. I've established a run. He has, he bended 150 to one before the season. Um, Eileen McNeil, a monster.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, I mean, I, I find that, I think the Giants need it more in the sense that like, at loss here, and they're, you start to see the playoff hype slip away, but if they don't make the playoffs, it's not the end of the world.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's a, that's a good argument. I like that. Uhm, I'm just really quickly. So they're at the.


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[Assistant] You know, the Giants did just get rolled by the Lions. It's not a great look. Um, at the Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles, at Commanders, at Vikings, Colts, at Eagles. I see the only, I mean, that's the only thing is like, is nine wins going to definitely get you in the playoffs?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's right. If you, if you, if you sweep Washington, you're in the playoffs, you're the giants.


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[Assistant] Well, given that, then I think your case is correct that the Cowboys needed more.


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[Assistant] And by the way, is this, I mean, I don't know if you heard, but, um, Odell Beckham is a free agent. Yeah. And, uh, is, is it a case that whoever w this is the Odell Beckham bowl, whoever wins this game gets it's decided.


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[Assistant] The Vikings have a much, much easier schedule coming. I mean, they, they have the lions left. Um, so they're at, they have the jets, which we all know is not a freebie, um, at the lions, Colts at home, giants at home, at the Packers, at the Bears. Yeah, you're right. It's the, it's the Patriots.


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[Assistant] I do feel like if like Kirk Cousins looks really bad at Belichick pressures of a ton, that there's going to be a little creasing buzz like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, maybe this is a little bit of a fraudulent team with the wins and you can't play anybody that provides any pressure whatsoever. But yes, in terms of the Patriots, yeah, the Vikings are in the playoffs. Like that's, it's, it's a done deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna make the playoffs. So yeah, but I do think there would be chatter about Kirk Cousins if he stinks against a defense that provides pressure. However, to your point, yes, New England. I mean, it would go a lot like, not that anybody's questioning Bill Belichick's bona fives.


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[Assistant] But the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick stuff has gotten, it's, it's, it's tampered down now that Tom Brady's five and five. Right. If the bucks were undefeated and rolling.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's been present, you know, with Brady's success and Belichick's lack of success.


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[Assistant] Making the playoffs and making sort of a playoff run would be a big deal for Belichick and, you know, you have teams like the Jets and the Chargers and the Colts at least lingering there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think they're, they're trying to build what San Francisco is on the, on the East coast. So yeah, like if.


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[Assistant] There's probably the, there's probably the terrible Ohio internet, you know, Ohio renown for its terrible internet. Um, yeah, not at all.


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[Assistant] Do you think it was, uhm, that is a great conspiracy theory. Do you think it was, uh, is it like it invited by Ryan Wilson? Ryan Wilson is big on this grass turf thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I buy that you're like the premise of your conspiracy theory, which is that owners are like, dude, we make millions of dollars off concerts that are here and we can't do that if it's grass. No grass. A hundred percent.


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[Assistant] Why do you, why do you think the NFL when everybody starts complaining about the injuries?


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[Assistant] Kevin Seifert's all of a sudden got an article at ESPN.com like the injury studies, uh, sources provided from the NFL showed that it's pretty negligible. And then like two days later, the ESP, like the NFL PA and the NFL released a joint study where it's like, that's right. It's really just the same. It's like, well, everyone knows it's not the same. Like everyone can tell it's not the same.


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[Assistant] Oh, you're doing, you're doing the big, the big new kickoff for, probably.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would, everyone should watch Brady on the big new kickoff, uh, on Fox. It's just a regular Fox, right? Yeah. Fox. Big Fox. Fox broadcast. Yeah. Yeah. With, uh, with Reggie Bush.


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[Assistant] Matt liner. You're all surprised and amusing that you send voice memos.


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[Assistant] You're basically like, uh, like one of the disciples. You're like, you're like Jesus of the voicemembers, basically.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't go that far. Probably not. I do appreciate a good voice note. Yeah, I do love a good voice note too. Alright, that'll do it for us. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving. Brady, thanks for taking the time away from your family. Sure they're wondering what the hell you're doing back there.


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[Assistant] Well, you tell, you tell everybody, your family, the queens, that, uh, we, you know, happy Thanksgiving from, from the Brinses.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone. Welcome to the Pixick Podcast. I'm Will Vincent. I'm your host. Joining me to break down week seven of the NFL season. Sunday. Meh, meh, Sunday.


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[Assistant] I'm just kidding. What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm your host.


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[Assistant] By all means, good day to be a Panthers fan today. Unless you're Matt Rule.


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[Assistant] I'm kidding with the commenters. If you're watching, if you're, if you're joining us, I was just messing around. I don't know what I was doing. If you're watching on YouTube, we've got 10 minutes left on Sunday, October 23rd, youtube.com slash pick six. Hit the subscribe button, smash the like button if you're watching and turn on alerts. So we get notified when we go live and uh, maybe maybe we'll like, you know.


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[Assistant] One day we'll do a cameo where John breach talks to like does wrestler interviews with a macho man voice and I'll even wear the whole outfit.


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[Assistant] You wanna restart the podcast and you do the intro? If you're listening to the podcast, of course, Monday, October 24th.


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[Assistant] And we'll start in Miami Sunday Night Football Dolphins 16 Steelers 10.


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[Assistant] The, uh, Steelers actually covered the line close at dolphins minus seven. And I mean, I think that.


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[Assistant] My, my take would be this, Wilson, and I'm curious what you think as a Steelers, uh, Homer. Um, well, actually, you know, I thought two, uh, I thought two had, yeah, like this is a good split, right? It looks great on the first drive, really scripted. That's something that's like come out, you know, a lot of these Kyle Shanahan style offense, Matt LaFleur.


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[Assistant] All those guys, you know, they script, they love to script.


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[Assistant] Was not fantastic the rest of the game, but was not terrible. The Steelers did a pretty good job of adjusting defensively and I thought that the Dolphins did not exploit the middle of the field the way they should have. Conversely, if I'm a Steelers fan, I would feel like


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[Assistant] I-I would feel a moral victory of some kind.


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[Assistant] That I think Kenny Pickett's got some juice. I don't know if he's gonna be great, but I feel like you, like you feel like you got something you can work with moving forward. Even if some of the decisions he made were forced a little, it was rainy out there. He's got those tiny little baby hands.


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[Assistant] And he, he under, he shorted the final, the final pick, obviously, uh, one, two, John Holland.


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[Assistant] Uh, in, in the dot, in the red zone, I believe, after two bad penalties. And then the final one, uh, to Noah.


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[Assistant] And you're kicking the field goal to win the game. Absolutely. It is an interesting idea that like there should be more coaches who like plan instead of planning a spike, like you're rushing to do a spike, just plan a hot route and you run.


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[Assistant] You have a guy run a quick route and if it's, if you think he's got it, you take the shot.


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[Assistant] One fun fact for you. Kenny Pickens Thurns. Can he pick it? Can he pick it?


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[Assistant] That's throwing seven interceptions his first four career games. The only rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] Well, I guess, I guess when I say moral victory tune, sorry, not to steer away, steer away from the adults, but I just really quickly like.


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[Assistant] I thought, like, I guess I'm not anticipating a whole lot from Pittsburgh this year.


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, I, I mean, I know that they're, they got back and they were in the mix sort of, but like, I don't feel like they were going to be a playoff team.


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[Assistant] Given the, given the landscape in the AFC, although obviously that's changed. It's a little more, a little more parody now than there was, but, um, yeah, the two nightmare penalties there, you have third and one.


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[Assistant] And you do the, uh, the legal shift on third and one with third and six. Then can you pick it? Tries to run left. Uh, like dove dove diving for the first down would have been just short. They probably would have gone for it there. But my point, I just said,


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[Assistant] Do we, what does this tell us about Miami? I'm not allowed to comment on the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] I don't know if this is a fair question or not. Actually, maybe we should, you know, we'll move on to this.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think with Breeze Hall going down within what we think is an ACL injury, yes, probably.


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[Assistant] I'm writing this down. I'm trying to be, I'm writing down a topic for a show that we're going to add a show to the podcast feed. We're going to look at some topics from the week.


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[Assistant] I'm trying not to ask the question. I don't want to ask you the question I'm thinking of and then all of a sudden we're 20 more minutes onto this, onto this. Alright, next game. What's next?


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[Assistant] Washington artists formerly known as Washington football team, 23 Packers, 21 who.


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[Assistant] This is the, I believe the, uh, the losing record through first, through his first seven weeks of the season for the first time since 2002, Tom Brady, his first full season as a NFL starting quarterback and the only healthy season of his career in which he did not make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Obviously 2008 he suffered that ACL injury in week one with Bernard Pollard and Matt Castle came in, they won 10 games and did make the playoffs. Dolphins won the division in the AOC East.


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[Assistant] Packers, zero third down conversions for the first time in a game since 1999. And I believe I saw that this is the worst, uh,


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[Assistant] Cumulative record between Brady and Rogers since Rogers came to the league in like 08.


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[Assistant] Okay, a couple, a couple of things here. One, I agree with you that the Rogers quotes are worse because at least that was Todd Bowles. Like, Hey, we're in a dark place. Like we're going to see who crumbles in the darkness. It sounds like a poor man's version of Bain Rogers. 18.3 points per game this year. That is the fewest of the seven games span in his career.


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[Assistant] He's first time losing three straight games all as a three plus point favorite in his career as a losing record through seven games for the first time in his career as well. Uh, that was actually Tom Brady's worst loss as I think it's a, uh, as a favorite of like seven points or more in his career. The bucks were the last team.


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[Assistant] In the one o'clock window of games to score, to score it to any point and they did it on a.


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[Assistant] And they're down 14-0 and Todd Bowles kicked a field goal to cut it to 11 points. Basically like just get some points on the board. And then later as Breach and I talked about in Slack, uh, Todd Bowles was down 18 and went for it instead of kicking a field goal at an obvious spot where you cut it to two scores.


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[Assistant] I think both, I mean, I think both teams are extremely concerning. Obviously I want to give Wilson credit because, and it may not even work out for you.


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[Assistant] Because they might win the division, but you said the Bucks were going to stink this year and like their worst.


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[Assistant] And as we pointed out last week, and so we're going to keep pointing this out. And even though it keeps, you know, like the Packers problem is they don't have anybody who's can step up and make plays at least like, I mean, if Mike Evans catches that first ball, that game's over.


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[Assistant] It was, per next-gen stats, it was the worst drop of over 30 air yards on the entire season.


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[Assistant] Like based on the separation and like where the ball is located, like it was, it's almost impossible for a guy of Mike. Mike was his, let's see, put him in the whole favorite thing. Oh God.


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[Assistant] Uh, they make roughly the equivalent of like one Christian McC- one of the one Instagram post from Christian McCaffrey's girlfriend.


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[Assistant] Uh, people just, uh, there were a couple of comments like, yes, Tampa Bay could have still lost the game. Of course. I just think that was the opening drive. Mike Evans is wide open on the back end.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, it ended up being like a thing where I, I don't think there were a bunch of people there. I mean, you know, people are excited about it. Um, and Carolina's not good.


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[Assistant] Credit to Steve Wilkes. There was an interesting report, uhm, on Sunday morning.


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[Assistant] That the Panthers turned down two first round picks for Brian Burns from Adam Schefter. Now, I would never want to question


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[Assistant] Lord knows the last time I questioned anything, I got screamed at by Dolphins fan of beat reporters. And I'm not trying to question Adam Schefter's report here.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Ravens would make sense. I did bill barnwell show. He did some fake trades. Ravens would make sense. But I mean, like, I guess, I guess my point is, like, if the Panthers could get two first round picks for a guy who is


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[Assistant] They can't come to terms with on a contract and he's a great young player, 24 years old has a year left on his, um.


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[Assistant] He has his fifth year option next year and then they can franchise tag him. So they got team control.


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[Assistant] But two first round picks man for a team that's trying to really rebuild. It would be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, uh, Scott Murphy in the chat says maybe it could be the Chiefs. That's definitely a possibility.


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[Assistant] Bears 24 is expected to land a massive extension this offseason when the market and pass rushes are set to explode with more big deals coming from players like Bears, Nick Bosa, Bradley Chubb, and others. It was sort of like setting it up where it's like, you won't be getting a deal. I just think that, I think it's crazy that the Panthers would consider not doing that.


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[Assistant] Saints can win the division. It's not crazy. Of course they can. Anybody can win this division. It's a terrible division. Uh, the odds in the NFC North. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.


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[Assistant] That is exactly correct. Oh, minus 700? Minus 700. What do you think the Packers are? Plus 300. Plus 500.


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[Assistant] I think the Bucks have to, the offensive line, sort of like a, the offensive line has to kind of come together. And for the Packers, they have to make a trade for a wide receiver at this point. Or somebody has to just, uh, quickly develop. I mean,


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[Assistant] I don't think it's crazy to suggest that Green Bay, who currently sits at three and four, um, and what's their bi-week? Okay, they're going to London next weekend. They took a bi-week. Are they in Germany? London? Where are they going?


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[Assistant] I did that with a wash of Eli Manning and Geno Smith and they got Ben McAdoo fired.


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[Assistant] I feel like Tom might be like, look, I'm going to get through this off season, knock out this like personal stuff, and then I'm going to come back pissed off and I'm going to keep playing because I got nothing.


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[Assistant] But I think there's a chance too where you, you, if you like hypothetically, you make this crazy move and just like Russell Wilson not playing today, you know, it's like.


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[Assistant] Maybe that game, or maybe the other New York team that's suddenly 6-1. NEXT!


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[Assistant] And they're, and I don't mean this in an insulting way. It's going to come across like.


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[Assistant] Like that, probably if you're a Giants fan, but whatever. Uhm, they're magic beans, right? Table sprinkled his magic beans on another game and they moved to six and one with a victory, a 23 17 victory over the Jaguars. I got to what?


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[Assistant] Do you know what this really reminds me of? And this is a good thing.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. And they just kept winning these games. It was like, well, this team's not good. How are they, they just keep finding ways to win. And they got to the playoffs and it was like, they're going to get roasted in the playoffs. But, but the, but the,


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[Assistant] The reason that it's the magic beans thing is not an insult is that you knew you had a good coach.


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[Assistant] And they just, they just find ways to win. I think that's really important when you start evaluating your coach. This is a guy that knows how to get the most out of his team, doesn't make huge mistakes and.


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[Assistant] And, and, and just has like, like the team just kind of, he, he's raising the level of this team. I think they're good. I don't think they're great.


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[Assistant] They had players on both sides, like Kavon Thibodeau and Evan Neal, who reportedly has a torn or sorry, an MCL injury.


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[Assistant] Like they're doing the right thing and moving in the right direction. If I'm a Giants fan, I am.


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[Assistant] I don't care how the season turns out as long as there are no major injuries. You feel like this is a, like a huge step in the right direction.


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[Assistant] I was wondering why the, uh, 2018, uh, excuse me, 2017 Buffalo Bills started five and two.


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[Assistant] With, uh, I think four one score wins or four one score games. So, so, you know what I'm saying? Like similar kind of like.


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[Assistant] If you're, if you're a coach who's raising the floor breach of your team and finding ways to win, I think that really bodes well for you long term.


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[Assistant] Great point by uh, Nick Adel in the chat. The Giants could definitely win a playoff game and get the interstate south champions. Like, like if they're the wild card and they get the uh. That's what everyone's gonna want.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, if you want to, I know you've been, you've been doing it for all year and I don't expect you to stop. Like that's, you know, pound the table all you want. Um, I think a lot of people were out of Trevor Lawrence. I would just say this on track. I'm not out on them. I'm just, I, I think that 2021 is a red shirt year for Trevor Lawrence because of the urban Meyer debacle.


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[Assistant] By the way, the Jaguars before this game, 2 and 4.


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[Assistant] And their expected win loss was 3.7 to 2.3. So it's, it's a team that's kind of, you know.


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[Assistant] I think Doug Peterson said after the game, we're, we're, we're learning good lessons the hard way. All five of the losses are by one score. Yeah. I mean, this, this, this Jaguar team.


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[Assistant] I know we're trying not to do this, um, but Arnwell didn't know the answer to this either when I asked him and I think, I think the answer is yes. Can you use a franchise tag and a transition tag?


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[Assistant] I was saying you could put the, you could put the franchise tag on one, cause we talked about that with the Titans when Derek Henry and Ryan Tanner were both free agents. You put the transition tag on Barkley.


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[Assistant] And the franchise tag on Daniel Jones. I know the franchise tag number is more for a quarterback, but no one's going to come and try to poach your run.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Joe Shane and Brian Dable, and I do think that they have the trust of ownership.


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[Assistant] But that ownership group loves Saquon and they love Daniel Jones, like just as people and as, and they're good players too, or they, they have, you know, high draft picks have shown flashes, but oh, you're right. Daniel Jones. That was his first career a hundred yard rushing game.


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[Assistant] We are, we were actually pleasantly surprised with what you did this year. Would you like, we want to do like a two year bridge deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, it's, it's, it's a fascinating situation though, because they weren't supposed to be good. We all thought that the giants wanted to move away from Daniel Jones. And now it's like, well,


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[Assistant] I don't know why I was getting blown up by our boy column bear about the freaking bingles lighting up the Falcons. Like I'm some Joe burrow hater. I love Joe burrow. Do you?


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[Assistant] Well, we were all joking about like, what if that tattoo derailed the franchise again, et cetera, et cetera. 3517 Joe burrow had, uh, actually didn't add it back up.


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[Assistant] I think there's like 195 passing yards and two touchdowns in the first quarter. And I think he had like 370 passing yards in the first half. Can I read you a little dinged up before the half in terms of perfect passer rating.


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[Assistant] Twice by Joe Burrow, once this year, once last year against the Ravens. Andy Dalton in 2018 and Carson Palmer in 2020. A minimum of five attempts. Breach. What did, uh, what did you think about your


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[Assistant] Cincinnati Bengals and how they looked against the Falcons. By the way, the Falcons were down 21-0 in the first quarter, I believe.


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[Assistant] And Marcus Marriott attempted 13 passing attempts. 13 passes.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, I hope, um. But it's been working. Now it's, now this doesn't, yeah sure, now this doesn't mean it's gonna win.


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[Assistant] I hope everybody listened and grabbed that 60 to 1 Jamar Chase Offensive Player of the Year.


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[Assistant] I'll just say this quickly. I would say like, I do agree that Arthur Smith is a good coach and a better coach than Zach Taylor. Like I'm confident Arthur Smith is a good coach. I would just be a little worried that if Arthur Smith was coaching the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Would he crank up? Like, would he let burrow be burrow? Cause I think again, this goes back to the Taylor thing. It's like, it feels like.


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow is just going to bail out. Like it doesn't matter who his coach is. Like I don't think there's a coach who's going to call Joe Burrow to.


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[Assistant] Matt Canada would like you to introduce himself to, or introduce yourself to him. I mean, Joe Burrow would just like punch him and stuff in the locker or something.


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[Assistant] Uhm, by the way, on the Arthur Smith thing too, uh, somebody noted like he's working around QB. Uhm, yeaah, for sure. Like, he was under the impression Matt Ryan would be his quarterback.


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[Assistant] And not that Matt Ryan's been great, but that's a whole different style of offense in Marcus Mariota. And so I think credit to Arthur Smith for creating a functional offense that keeps them in.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, coming into this year, given the roster that the Falcons have,


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[Assistant] I mean, I said it was one of the two worst rosters in football, and I don't think that's necessarily wrong, but I do think that they are, despite being absolutely torched in this game, like they're, they're way better than I thought they would be.


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[Assistant] By the way, the Lions didn't win their first game until week 13.


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[Assistant] We're plucky. Are you saying that this is like the launching pad for the bingo selection?


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[Assistant] First time since Patrick Mahomes took over Starter that the Chiefs had two 100 yard receivers and neither one of them was Tyree Kill or Travis Kelsey. Marcus Vata scantling.


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[Assistant] And Juju Smith Schuster both over a hundred yards in this game and Nikol Hardman. This step kind of blew my mind.


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[Assistant] So this Chief's team is, this Chief's offense is great. It's fine. It's a definite.


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[Assistant] Collective F you to anyone who suggests that losing Tyree kill would cause him to crater offensively.


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[Assistant] I mean, some people are idiots and some people said that was the best bet of the preseason.


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[Assistant] He looks good. He looks, look, just visually, aesthetically, he looks awesome in a nighter suit uniform.


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[Assistant] He had eight carries. Andy Reid said before the game, the Niners were the number one team against the Run.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in, according to DVOA, the number one overall defense coming into this game.


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[Assistant] But like, if you look at the scoring, I mean, it was 20. Awesome. Awesome. Like you got Moss catch by George Kittle.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, Josh Norris of Underdog, uh, Friend of the Pot, Josh Norris of Underdog Fantasy.


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[Assistant] Asked a good question on Twitter. Can you name six good NFL teams?


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[Assistant] I think the Beagles count. You said the Eagles? The Eagles definitely count. That's four.


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[Assistant] I picked the Niners to make the Super Bowl last year, guys. And I picked them to win the division this year.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks by the way. The Seahawks are a good team.


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[Assistant] I had to see Austin win the division, wouldn't be crazy. But I think the Niners are a good football team.


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[Assistant] Excuse me, uh, Mark Andrews celebrated it by not catching, not having one catch. That's sad.


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[Assistant] It was very sad. Alright. He hates tight ends. Uh, I just think this is a, it was a, this is a closest game and then the Chiefs pulled away late.


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[Assistant] Seahawks 37, Chargers 23. This was not a closest game. Or much of this game, I don't believe.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeah, uh, CO sharp 17, nothing. Chargers credit 1714. See how scored. Yeah. Yeah. I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Super Bowl 49, you have a picture of it. Uhm, I think that that helped, like,


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[Assistant] That created this rift of larger personalities. Like Richard Sherman had become a celebrity at that point. And I think that Pete had to pick, and he picked Russell.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he picked right. I mean, I don't think the defense is going to last forever because those guys were a little bit older.


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[Assistant] It was a hell of a GM. I mean like a great GM and evaluating talent. It may be the case that they just realized that Russell, where he is as a person, as a personality,


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[Assistant] Had outgrown the, the always compete mantra. I mean, that's how Russell got the, we talked about this before, like the Matt Flynn stuff. He Pete Carroll believes in always competing.


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[Assistant] I don't want to compare it directly to it, but sort of similar to the 2010 draft when they had two first round picks.


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[Assistant] Because of the, uh, uh, Alphonso Smith trade with Josh McDaniels in, uh, in Denver.


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[Assistant] Russell O'Koong and Earl Thomas. Then they grabbed Golden Tate in the second round. They also picked up Cam Chancer in the fifth. And then the next year was the, uh, they grabbed, they had Carpenter in the first, who was, you know,


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[Assistant] Do you think that this is like a less, much less sexy version of Carson Palmer getting paired up with uh, Bruce Arians? Where it's just like the skit, like what this veteran, what you read, right? And like, was it being a crime suite or like? For what? Was it the tweet was like, you know, what if he'd been drafted by this? It was just like.


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[Assistant] Oh, that was, that was MDS. Oh, it was Michael Davis. Sorry. Um, Brady and I talked about this pretty frequently. It's like, I try to, it's like Brady had been drafted by somebody else.


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[Assistant] Not the Browns, like a team with a stable organization, good offensive line, good medical staff.


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[Assistant] Like, there's a, like, there's a lot of cases like that. Now there are a lot of cases of, like, Jamarcus Russell. He wasn't going to win anywhere he went.


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[Assistant] Archie Manning spent most of his life playing for.


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[Assistant] After Peyton came in, he knew, you know, he didn't want Peyton to go to the Chargers. He wanted Peyton to go to the Colts. He knew that the Chargers were not the spot you wanted to go to. And so he...


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[Assistant] I hoisted the chargers on my boy Phillip Rivers by making Eli leave.


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[Assistant] Never been relevant within really more than like three years.


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[Assistant] Before the season, I had to do an HQ hit and they were like, hey, give us a reason why, uh, each AFC West team won't win the Superbowl. I was like, I replied, I was like,


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[Assistant] The chargers are the chargers. You're like, well, that's not an answer. I was like, have you seen the chargers? Have you picked the chargers to win the Superbowl three of the last 10 years? Cause I bet you haven't. If you had, you'd know that they're idiots and they screw everything up no matter what they do. They're the chargers.


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[Assistant] I think the 49ers are the best team, but as I've been saying for three weeks, I think the Seahawks are a good bet. I think the Seahawks have that chemistry.


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[Assistant] I think it's more like 2010, 2011 where they were like, Pete's like, I can win with this type of guy. And he's just getting more out of Gino than he ever got out of Tavares or Matt Hasselback.


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[Assistant] Alright, you can have, you have $100. You can only bet on one thing. Here are the odds that you can bet on. 49ers plus 130. Rams plus 160. Seahawks plus 550. Cardinals 8 to 1. 8 to 1. It should be 8 to 1.


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[Assistant] And, uh, get ready for next week. I think it's, I think it's worth noting that, um, and, uh, somebody, uh, move in chat said that, uh, um.


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[Assistant] Basically, Derek Henry's yards per carry is not, is not really high right now, but


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[Assistant] Like he looked like he, he almost popped one at the end, but he sort of went down because he wanted to make sure.


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[Assistant] That they could run the clock out, um, three straight hundred yard games. 114 102 and I believe 128 today. If you look at the schedule, I'm just telling you, get ready for next week. Think about prop betting. Think about DFS. Derek Henry gets the Houston Texans. Derek Henry does. Horrific things. The Houston Texans by like by the splits. I believe I'll just double check.


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[Assistant] Like, doesn't that seem like very obvious, like just anecdotally watching it the last few years, particularly at the end of the season? Nope. Okay.


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[Assistant] He has 10 games, 170 carries, 1,035 yards against the Texans, 6.1 yards per carry and 9 touchdowns. He averages 103.5 yards per game against the Texans. That includes games before he was actually getting reps. He is going to obliterate the Texans. You saw what Josh Jacobs did. Derek Hinnom will be like 45% of DFS and he will be worth it. Just telling you for next week.


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[Assistant] Which is wild. Why can't Wilson, why can't the Ravens close games?


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[Assistant] Tomorrow's nine to sixteen for one twenty. It's wild.


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[Assistant] Patrick, Patrick Queen looked awesome in this game too. He's making, making plays.


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[Assistant] Uhm, by the way, the Ravens had five sacks in this game. Looks like the pass rush is getting a little bit better. I think that's important. Also really quickly want to note before we move on to the next game, the Saints are two and five. The Eagles are holding their first round pick next year. The Browns are two and five.


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[Assistant] The Texans are holding their first round back this year. They're 1-4-1, but it's good for them. And the Broncos are 2-5.


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[Assistant] And the Seahawks are holding their first round pick next year. We've seen this a couple times in the last few years.


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[Assistant] This year particularly, like a bunch of teams had two picks up high. We could see it again this coming year.


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[Assistant] And yet teams still won't stop trading their future first round picks.


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[Assistant] Uh, probably worth noting. So the Eagles, they obviously were getting blown out by it, but storm back through the back door. Commanders don't have a very good defense. Vikings are fine. Seahawks not a great defense. Patriots and Cowboys, both top 10 by DVOA coming into this week.


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[Assistant] So when we're thinking about the Lions moving forward, let's remember that they are maybe not great against good defenses, even with a good defensive line. They could have covered in this game, some late scores by the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] I think they will draft a quarterback, but I also think they know that Jared golf is the bridge to make sure they get the right, like they don't want to have to force it because when you force it, mistakes happen. Next game. By the way, uh.


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[Assistant] Five takeaways for the Cowboys. Most of the single games since 2013. Also five sacks as I said. No DeAndre Swift pregame and Amaranth St. Brown left too. That didn't help.


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[Assistant] Jets 19, Bronkers 9. This was an eyesore of a game.


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[Assistant] Hey, by the way, if you're listening, still listening, smash the like button.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Raiders 36, Texans 20, Josh Jacobs, monster game, 143 yards on 20, carries 3 rushing touchdowns, joins Marcus Allen as the only Raiders player ever with 3 plus rushing touchdowns in a second half. Uh, Josh Jacobs was, I believe,


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[Assistant] I did like 50, maybe it was like 46. Something in like the 50% earned range of the Millie Maker, which is like 200,000 people or 5 million people. I don't know how many people are in it, but like he was, everyone was on him and he delivered and he casted a Kenneth Walker.


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[Assistant] You didn't have those two guys in burrow chase. You didn't make any money in DFS. Even if you had those guys, you might not have made money anyway.


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[Assistant] Texas, Texas fought hard there and just sorta got worn out by Josh Jacobs.


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[Assistant] Here are the two win teams in the NFL. Tell me if there's any, two wins or worse, anybody you take over the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Raiders, Jaguars, Broncos, Browns, Steelers, Texans.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I mean. Great show everybody! Alright, uh, Breach is the winners and losers for his, for his, uh, whatever. We'll tell him off.


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[Assistant] Okay. That's the show. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Bye for breach from Wilson. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] I will just say, if you're the Dolphins, I think you are happy with the win. Obviously you have Tua coming off the concussion. As long as he didn't go out there and throw five interceptions, I think you're happy with how he performed. Sure, uh, you know, they, uh,


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[Assistant] You just see what you can do with all these guys. I mean, it's really crazy how well Tua did, uh, of spreading the ball around. I mean, Jalen Waddle had four catches. Tyree Kill had seven catches. Mozart had four catches. And so, uh,


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[Assistant] I thought Tua, considering the circumstances, looked good. I think that he's going to get better.


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[Assistant] Look better the next time he's out there. And so I think if you're a Dolphins fan, you have to be thrilled with what you saw, even if to a good throw four passes that probably should have been intercepted. And even if, uh, Mike McDaniel probably should have kicked the field goal in the third quarter to go 19 to 10 in a game where points were clearly at a premium and being up two scores were probably would have made this a wrap.


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[Assistant] Uh, but other than that, you know, I thought their defense played well and, uh,


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[Assistant] They, they need to win. You know, you're on a three game losing streak. All you gotta do is win. And that's what they did here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I don't think I'm too worried about that right now, but that obviously could be an issue if it continues to be a problem.


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[Assistant] But anytime you're scoring on your first three drives, you know, you're pretty thrilled with how things are going. They only punted once in the first half, so it's not like they slowed down.


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[Assistant] Mac Jones coming back. If the Dolphins beat him in week one, yes, they did. But, I'm, yeaah, I guess it's the Dolphins right now.


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[Assistant] I think the Aaron Rodgers quote is much more concerning because that just sounds like he is throwing everyone under the bus except himself.


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[Assistant] Uh, and if you're on the coaching staff, if you're one of his teammates who is supposed to be catching passes from him, you do not want to see


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I don't think the Packers are there yet because they're three and four and they certainly could still make the playoffs, but we are inching to that point.


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[Assistant] And so, yeah, the Packers concern level is...


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[Assistant] I think I said I was at nine and a half the last time we talked about it. I'm at like 9.9 now. I'm almost at the tipping point where you say, I don't know if this team's gonna make the playoffs. And then with the Buccaneers, it's just, you know, we talked about a little bit last week, but they're three and four. They're still in first place in their division. The Packers!


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[Assistant] But they're still in their place so they can easily rebound.


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[Assistant] Which by the way would have been a 64 yard touchdown. It would have been a walk in touchdown. There was no one within 10 yards of him. It was in his hands. It was, you don't see NFL players. This is like what you see Division 2 college players drop. You rarely see NFL players with this type of drop.


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[Assistant] You know, you say no, they can't win the division, and I, I don't want to be completely crazy, but you know who has the best record, division record, in that division right now?


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[Assistant] I would put $10. I'll do it. I'll put some money on it.


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[Assistant] And then if you, if you win that you can donate it to the Jets Money Charity. That's right.


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[Assistant] No, the, the Buccaneers are in London in November, but that's not next week.


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[Assistant] Nobody. Rodgers has never been a double-digit underdog in his career.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, and you would think that other coaches would look in the mirror and do some self reflecting.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Quiff Kingsbury, Nathaniel Hackett, and say, hey, look.


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[Assistant] Look at this guy in New York who came out and said, this is why you shouldn't call plays. His team is highly successful in his first year. Here am I doing it my own way. It's not working. So why don't I try something new? That's at least what I would think about is that, Hey, maybe I should copy Brian Dayball. And so it's been fantastic what he's done because.


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[Assistant] He's basically, hey, I'm going to let Capco do all this. And, uh, you know, I have final say. I can look at the offensive game plan. I can put my stamp of approval on it, but I trust this guy to make the right calls in the right situations and a first year and a first year play caller too.


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[Assistant] It's really crazy when these things happen because this was the exact same team.


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[Assistant] It is, that is how big of a deal coaching is in the NFL. So it's mind boggling that Joe Judge or Jason Garrett or Freddie Kitchens or whoever, uh, had all the power in New York last year, just,


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[Assistant] Was so mismanaging it that they were that bad. And so like you guys have said, this team has way overachieved. Uh, and yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I think that the franchise tag probably makes the most sense for Daniel Jones, cause it's one of those things where like- Well then you can't- what are you gonna do with Saquon? Well, then-


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[Assistant] I don't know if I want to tie myself to Daniel Jones for five years, but I absolutely think he deserves, I want to keep him if I'm, unless there's some other quarterback out there that I...


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[Assistant] Maybe you think I can upgrade, but I think for right now you've gotta... I dunno, I'd have to see the list.


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[Assistant] 21-0 after the first play of the second quarter when Joe Burrow threw a 32-yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase, which was one of three touchdown passes that went for more than 30 yards. And you know what? Look.


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[Assistant] The Bengals have kind of flown under the radar because they started the season 0-2 and usually when you're the defending AFC champion, you have this giant target on your back, everybody wants to destroy you, but that target, that went to Buffalo, went to Kansas City, so the Bengals just kind of


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[Assistant] Mosey down the street, and it was only a matter of time. Look, T Higgins had been battling an ankle injury. The offensive line...


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow couldn't miss, uh, you have Jamar Chase going for over 130 yards. Tyler Boyd going for over 150 yards. T Higgins, uh, almost getting 100 yards. They almost had 3 receivers with 100 yards. And so,


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[Assistant] When Joe burrows on his A game, the Bengals are almost unbeatable and he was on his A game here. I mean, when he's, we've talked about multiple times that the Bengals have probably the top receiving trio in the NFL. And if all of those guys are healthy, this offense is very difficult to stop. And you know,


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[Assistant] People say, oh, it's just the Falcons, but this is a Falcons team that has been in every single game they've played. They've beaten the Seahawks. They've beaten the Browns. Only one team absolutely destroyed them and that was the Bengals. And so, uh, you know, the other thing that people forget is that I don't think the Bengals have given up a third quarter point yet this season.


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[Assistant] So like the defense has been so good, especially in the second half where they haven't given up a touchdown.


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[Assistant] In the second half of any game, uh, and that part kind of gets slept on because the offense kind of gets all the headlines, but man, the Bengals looked good. And if this is what they're going to look like the rest of the season, then they feel like a top three team in the AFC in the same breath as Kansas City above.


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[Assistant] Same spot I am every week. He does at least two things a game that boggled my mind. Uh, then he also looks amazing at times. And so I just sit on the fence and I straddle it thinking one day I'm going to make a decision whether I think he's a good coach or a bad coach, but we have still not


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[Assistant] I'm looking toward Ritter anytime in the near future. Maybe by the time they get to their buy, I think they have one of the last buys in


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[Assistant] Week 14. So maybe by the time you get there, if you are eliminated, you let him start the final four games of the season, but look.


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[Assistant] Marcus Mariota has led them to three wins. They beat the 49ers who are a decent team. They beat the Seahawks who are first place in the NFC West. And you know what else? The Atlanta Falcons are tied for first in the NFC South and they play the Carolina Panthers in two of the next three weeks.


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[Assistant] And they lost Cordero Patterson. So it's not, you know, like they lost a key player from that offense that Smith designed and they're still kind of humming along.


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[Assistant] I will say real quick about the Bengals is that last season, uh, right around this time,


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[Assistant] And then the Bengals blew them out. And that's kinda what happened. They showed with the Falcons, plucky, sticking around, winning games. And then the Bengals blew them out. And this is a game where it does feel like, yes, this team could be as good, if not better than last year.


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[Assistant] I am saying that other teams could not blow this team out and the Bengals did and it gives me the feeling this team could be as good or better than last year's team.


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[Assistant] That also had to do with the thought that the chargers would be better than they are.


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[Assistant] He landed on Friday. He only practiced once. Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] Drew up a small package of plays and he's still got 10 touches, which is amazing. Just a tiny package.


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[Assistant] But it also feels like Scott, Andy Reid's forcing him out there to say, you know, like, oh, he's not really fitting in with the offense right now. And I don't want people to think we're wasting this traffic. And I, so I just want to get them on the field somehow and put them back and let them return punts, even though he's coming close to costing us games. So, I mean, it is weird.


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[Assistant] I think it started like two or three years ago. And you know what? They always have their tight end clinic in Nashville.


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[Assistant] I think it would be, it would be, it's difficult to do that. You know, like the Mannings are the Mannings. They're a first family of football. They're a team that


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[Assistant] A family that can do that and pull off that kind of move. There aren't many people that have that kind of clout or that kind of power. And you risk that the team just doesn't agree and said, okay, fine, sit out the entire year and lose a whole year of, uh.


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[Assistant] I mean, there are a bunch of teams that are petty and would absolutely do that. And yes, the Bengals probably would have been one of those teams in the past.


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[Assistant] I mean, Carson Palmer like later in his career. I mean, Carson Palmer did that. He said he didn't want to play for the Bengals and the Bengals said, okay, go retire. You're not going to play for anyone. And then Josh Johnson or whoever got hurt for the Raiders and the Raiders were desperate and needed pick. They said, was it?


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[Assistant] But again, so a team- Who's that? Josh Campbell? Josh Campbell, yea. Jason, Jason. You're looking at-


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[Assistant] Jason cable. So if you're, if you're in this game of chicken with a team, you have to know the team's going to blink or you're going to lose and you have no leverage in this situation. So I don't think it's something adding this to a, uh, upon further review. I don't think it's something that can happen a lot, but I thought the more surprising thing, it was just how bad the chargers looked in this game. It was just.


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[Assistant] They were making dumb mistake after dumb mistake and the chargers are like.


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[Assistant] You're in college and you break up with someone and then you, they say, take me back, I'm going to change. And you take them back and they don't change at all. Like you think, oh, they're actually going to be good this year. Nope. They're just going to fall in their face again and not be good. Or they finally want to play off game this year.


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[Assistant] They're not going to do it because they keep doing dumb things. They keep charging it up, uh, as people have been known to say.


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[Assistant] It's like 2012, you brought this up Brendan, now the seasons are similar, it's just like-


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[Assistant] No, no, just the 2012 Seahawks period where when the Seahawks said they were starting a third round pick over this guy, Matt Flynn, they had just signed a huge free agent contract. Everybody's like, are they dumb? They're throwing away the season. And then boom, they're in the playoffs, uh, and went pretty far. So they lost to the Falcons. See, and so.


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[Assistant] I am not betting on the Rams, I will tell you that. So it's either 49ers or Seahawks.


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[Assistant] I think we all did. Did we all fall asleep this offseason? What happened? I don't know why everyone thought, including me, you know, I picked the Titans of the Winter Division last year. This year it just felt like they weren't going to, or maybe we just all bought into the Colts. I'm not sure. That's what it was.


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[Assistant] Mike Vrabel is absolutely one of the most underrated coaches in football. He is getting near


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[Assistant] I'll build Belichick level as far as getting his defenses prepared to face a team where if I have one game to get a defense prepared and I don't have Belichick


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[Assistant] Which NFL coach would I pick? I might pick Frable because they are always ready to go. They're always shutting down the opposing offense and the way they play, you know, they're not going to win shootouts. They're not designed to win shootouts. They're designed to give the ball to Derek Henry a bunch and then hope Ryan Tannehill doesn't throw three interceptions because they can overcome when he throws one interception or two interceptions.


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[Assistant] Brand of football is somehow successful. This is like 1983 brand of football and it works and it works for Rable and it works for this team. And now that they're in first place and have swept the Colts, it seems.


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[Assistant] Well, and real quick to Wilson's point, I'm sure after the game, Vrabel went up to, uh, Todd down in the offense coordinator and said, Hey bro, we don't do trick plays here. We run the football and we played 1976. That's how we win games, man. So just go ahead.


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[Assistant] Alright. And remember this seems foreign too, but they would have been, uh, five in one.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's, I feel sorry for the Browns. They wanted to, uh, just try and stay the course until Deshaun Watson got back and they have gone way off course, crashed their boat and are now drowning in the water.


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[Assistant] I don't think you're happy because I think most Browns fans looking at the schedule thought they would be four and three.


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[Assistant] Every Browns fan I talked to was thinking, oh, we can beat the Panthers, we can beat the Jets, we can beat the Steelers, we can beat the Falcons, get the 4-0, we get to the rough part of our schedule, maybe we win one of those games, and we can be 4-3 or 5-2, and so 2-5 is


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[Assistant] Breachbot was impressed with Dak Prescott. I think if you're the Cowboys, all you wanted from Dak out of this game was don't get hurt. Don't turn the ball over.


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[Assistant] And uh, don't look horrible. And he passed the smell test with all three of those things. They didn't ask him to do too much. They ran the ball more than 30 times. So it's just like, you know, we're going to ease him in there. We'll give the ball to Zeke. We'll give the ball to Tony Pollard.


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[Assistant] Uh, and they, they did all the dirty work here. And so I felt like this was the perfect game to ease DEC.


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[Assistant] Real quick on the Broncos, this is going to be a stat that basically sums up their season. There have only been 15 games this year where a team scored 19 or fewer points and won 15. Five of those games have involved the Broncos.


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[Assistant] So a full one third of those games, uh, obviously they lost this one, 16 to 9, they lost to the Seahawks, 17 to 16, they lost to the Colts, 12 to 9, they lost to the Chargers, 19 to 16, and they actually won two of them with the 11-10 win over the 49ers, 16-9 win over the Texans. So it's just ridiculous. If, if the, if the Broncos had


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[Assistant] Any, just remotely good quarterback play, just competence at quarterback. This team would be good, but they don't, so they're not. I throw, I throw the towel at them.


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[Assistant] And two quick things on Josh Jacobs. Uh, like Brenton said, went over 140 yards. This is the third time since 2010 that a running back has gone over 140 yards in three straight games. Uh, Derek Henry in 2019, Adrian Peterson in 2012, Josh Jacobs this week. And the crazy thing about Josh Jacobs doing it.


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[Assistant] Josh Jacobs had never gone over 140 yards in a game before the month of October. Now he has done it in three straight games. So he went from zero to now he cannot not do it.


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[Assistant] So when you have, and this is the same thing that happens usually when you have a new coach, you know, you're there's an adjustment period. I do think that they probably should have beaten the Cardinals. You're up 20 to nothing. They blew that game. So


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not penalizing them for that loss. They probably could have beaten the Chiefs even though it felt like going into that game, the Chiefs were the better team. I think we all thought the Chiefs were the better team and the fact that, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, you can take, uh. My loser's Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my winner was gonna be Joe Burrow, but it's not, so it is going to be Brian Dable.


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[Assistant] I was on the phone with this travel agent three seconds after the trade was finalized and said, alright, just get me out of here. I'm God. Send me to San Francisco. I don't want to ever speak with Caroline again.


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[Assistant] And real quick, I was, I thought you were listing every, uh, running back move the 49ers have made. Jerk McKinnon was one of Shanahan's first ones. He signed him to a 40 year 30 million dollar deal. But now he plays for the Chiefs. Yeaah. I thought Wilson was going down listing everything.


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[Assistant] So they've invested a lot at this position. And so it is interesting to see them bring in Christian McCaffrey. But you know what, Ryan? I'll disagree with you. I'll say the 49ers win it.


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[Assistant] I was, I mean, your logic is sound. Your reasoning makes sense, but this feels like a Ramsey and move where, uh, the, the four diners felt laughed at with the FM picture. It's now John Lynch can wear an FM picture.


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[Assistant] Because they just sent a bunch of picks, and this is that kind of move. This is, hey, maybe we're one player away from winning a Super Bowl. Well, we got that player now, and now we feel like we can win the Super Bowl. Are they one player away though? I mean, they're tied for first place.


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[Assistant] Uh, you want a fun fact about that fun fact you just gave us?


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[Assistant] Ed McCaffrey and Mike Shanahan were only together for one season in San Francisco and the 49ers won the Super Bowl that year.


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[Assistant] Or Jeff Wilson, but Christian McCaffrey is just as good of a weapon catching the ball.


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[Assistant] Running the ball, and the thing is, you look at what the 49ers do with their running backs, and I think if there's one thing Kyle Shannon would love to see more, is being able to design plays where the quarterback can throw the ball to the running back, and where he doesn't have to design something for Debo Samuel in that sense, because 49ers running backs aren't catching passes. I think they have 19 total receptions on the year.


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[Assistant] Christian McCaffrey has more receptions than every 49ers running back combined.


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[Assistant] I think it is if Jimmy Garoppolo is struggling to throw down field and you want to give him somebody to dump it off to, just take some pressure off of him.


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[Assistant] I think it's Superbowl or Bust. That's what it comes down to. You don't have to win the Superbowl. If you get to the Superbowl blues, the trade pays off. But if you do not make the Superbowl, because you think about, if we had this conversation two days ago about what


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[Assistant] How far do you think the 49ers are going to go this season? Are they going to win the division? Are they going to get to the NFC title game for the second straight year? Uh, and so think about what you would have said two days ago and now.


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[Assistant] They also have a history of making trades. They trade for Immanuel Sanders in 2019 and that one put him over the top and they got to the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] On the final, uh, possession, offensive possession for the 49ers? Yes. I believe so.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's what it sounds like. Kyle Shanahan's like, ooh, I have a wide receiver that can play running back. Now I just need a running back to play wide receiver and I'll have Kyle Shanahan bingo. And that's kind of what he has here. And he's not going to sleep at all for the next 72 hours. He's going to just be designing plays.


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[Assistant] That have Christian McCaffrey and Debo Samuel on the field. I think one interesting thing here though is that this is essentially a one year rental. You're giving away all these draft picks.


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[Assistant] Uh, you have Christian McCaffrey under contract at minimum, uh, veteran salary this year, but then no guaranteed money left after that. So, do you try and hammer out a new deal? Do you say, you know what, we'll just keep them for 11 million, even though the 49ers are already tight in salary cap space? Uhm.


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[Assistant] So that's something you have to consider because if you only keep them for one year, then you just gave away all those draft picks for an 11 game rental.


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[Assistant] Well, he's got, he's under a contract next year for 11 million dollars, uh, base dollars.


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[Assistant] He has no more guaranteed money after 2022, so that opens up a situation where the four-hours could, I mean they're not gonna cut him, but they could cut him, owe him nothing, they could renegotiate his contract so that he has some guaranteed money, but is not making 11 million dollars a year, so they'll have a lot of options after the season ends.


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[Assistant] Uh, I agree with Branson the 49ers, but I don't think as wide of as a gap as he thinks it is.


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[Assistant] Maybe. I think the Seahawks might be number two. How's that sound?


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[Assistant] Uh, can you imagine if the Panthers called the Rams like, alright, here's the 49ers final offer. Do you think you can match it? And the Rams are just like, LOL, have you seen, we have two picks in the first five rounds of this year's draft, guys.


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[Assistant] He got like a few snaps. They went to, uh, through one deep pass to him.


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[Assistant] But the flip side of that, uh, is that the Rams might be in first place after this week because the Seahawks play the Chargers, uh, Chargers are favored. Brairs, as you mentioned, are underdogs to the Chiefs. So if they both lose, uh, then the Rams are sitting at home staying at three and three and now in first place.


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[Assistant] Not having a betting trend show. It's not for real unless it has the Z in it. Of course. Like a sideways Z.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, that's gonna happen because 28-3 always comes up with anything involving the Falcons.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we just saw the comment of, uh, Brady and Giselle possibly getting divorced. New York Post, page six reported to, uh, higher divorce lawyers. And you know what? For instance, you've made this point the last couple of weeks is that


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[Assistant] You think you can put that stuff away when you're not out there playing games. Some people can, some people can't. Brady seems like a guy who can, but there is always that chance that these things are in the back of your mind while you're on the field.


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[Assistant] But, you know, Brady's been doing this for so long, uh, and I'm sure, you know, everybody deals with life problems at some time or another. So I'm sure this isn't the first time he's dealt with issues.


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[Assistant] Reach, have you written about this for CBS? Throws a wrinkle in it. I have not, uh. That's the biggest, that's the biggest surprise. I think divorce speculation is a touchy subject that, you know, you kind of stay away from unless Brady or Giselle.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. I think you want to be getting too crazy with the report from the New York Post. Uh, and that's not to say it's incorrect, because obviously, as Tyler said,


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[Assistant] But again, one thing about Brady is that it's not just gonna be, hey, I'm playing the Falcons.


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[Assistant] The Buccaneers have not looked good on offense and maybe it's because of all this, maybe all of that weighs into it, but also they've lost two straight games and you rarely see Brady lose two straight games. You know, you never see Brady lose three straight games, uh, in his career. He is 14 and O straight up.


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[Assistant] Coming off a two game losing streak, he is 12 and two against the spread. Those are just two numbers that kind of blow me away because it's Brady putting his foot down. Uh, yeah, we're not losing a third straight game. Uh, and anytime he has had two straight losses, his team has averaged 31.6.


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[Assistant] Points per game in that third game to avoid.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I agree with Solomon. I just don't think this is a huge step down at quarterback for the Dolphins. It might be a minor step down, but two and a half points just seems like a huge overcorrection. And it feels like you're kind of getting a bargain with the Dolphins here and they've dominated the Jets too. They've won four straight, all four wins have been by at least a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it's not even four straights, eight of the past nine. So this is, uh, a Dolphins team that still has all their weapons too. It's not like Tyree Kill sitting out or Jalen Waddle sitting out. They've got all their weapons. They just got someone else, uh, firing the gun and that's going to be Teddy Bridgewater. So.


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[Assistant] They are throwing Kenny Pickett to the Lions. I mean, this is, and not the Detroit Lions. They're just feeding him to the Lions. This is, you look at what, because of the schedule, the schedule's a gauntlet.


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[Assistant] But you look at what the, the Steelers have over the next few weeks. It's not just the Bills this week. It's the Buccaneers after that. It's the Dolphins after that. It's the Eagles after that. Before you get to this fight. So you're throwing Kenny Pickett out there. And if he has any confidence, it might all get destroyed.


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[Assistant] By the time you get to your buy in early November.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, let him build some confidence, maybe pick up a win or two. You feel a lot better about yourself. But he goes out there, throws for 90 yards in each game with four interceptions and the Steelers are losing by three touchdowns. Uh, that's a quick way to kill your quarterback's confidence. So this is definitely an interesting decision.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but the point spread, my god, it is just insane. Two touchdowns.


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[Assistant] I feel a lot better about myself. I had to Google it to make sure I wasn't crazy. And now I feel less crazy.


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[Assistant] Alright, well then next time I will say feed you to the lions at the zoo. There you go. I will complete the entire sentence, but one more nugget about this game is that dating back last season, the Bills have won five straight home games, uh, and they've won them all by at least two touchdowns.


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[Assistant] And Brenton mentioned that this game is a home game for the Cardinals, which they might be the one TV NFL where that means absolutely nothing because they have lost seven straight home games. Uh, they lost to the Rams in week three, 20 to 12. They lost to the chiefs in week one, 44 to 21 and


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[Assistant] They have struggled at home. They're giving up a lot of points. They've given up 30 or more four times.


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[Assistant] They led the Lions 38 to 21 in the fourth quarter, so up 17 points. Uh, week two, they led the Vikings 24 to seven in the fourth quarter. So they're just kind of coasting. Week three, they led the commanders 24 to nothing in the fourth quarter. So it's just a matter of let's just run the ball, run out the clock and go home.


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[Assistant] That is true. That, look, for me it is...


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[Assistant] The Ravens have the worst pass defense in the NFL. They've get up more passing yards than anyone. The only team in the NFL giving up more than 300 yards passing per game. They're going against the quarterback who averaged about 490 passing yards against them in two games last year, including the 525 yard game.


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[Assistant] And in the Bengals past 12 games dating back to last season, they are eight and four. None of the four losses have been by more than three points. When they lose, it's close or they win. They just, this, this, this scene is too good to get blown out. They're good on defense. Their, their offense has high, it's a high powered offense. Tough time seeing them getting blown out. That's all.


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[Assistant] Uh, one, one quick thing I'll throw in about the Ravens that this is a home prime time game for them. They are 14 and 1 straight up in their last 15 home prime time games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Baham seems solid and the Chiefs offense seems to be getting better every single week. I think last week we talked a little bit about Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I don't hate Justin Herbert at 16 to 1 because I think the Chargers are kind of bouncing back. We kind of.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't, we didn't write him off. I don't think anyone. We wrote him off. Okay, we wrote him off. Uh, but, but now then you, you see him come out, uh, you know, they put up 34 points against the Texans.


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[Assistant] They're going to get used to playing without Rashaun Slater. Eventually he's going to get Keenan Allen back and if he has another big game or two over the next few weeks, his odds are going to drop. He's going to fall into that 10 to 1 range. So I think at plus 1600 that I kind of like Herbert as somewhat of a long shot right now.


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[Assistant] Our Monday night game podcast. So how wide open the NFC West is. Well, what if the Seahawks make the playoffs? You know how far down Pete Carroll is? Tied for the lowest, worst odds. He is a hundred to one to win this award. And I know Pete Carroll gets slammed all the time.


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[Assistant] But if the Seattle Seahawks, I'm not even sure they have to win the division. If they get to the playoffs with Gino Smith, that might, and this assumes Jacksonville can't win the division.


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[Assistant] So there you go, Pete Carroll is 2-2, tied for first place in the NFC West, and he is sitting there with the worst odds at 100-1, are you kidding me? I'd at least sprinkle a little bit on that because the Seox looks pretty good and maybe they can surprise some people and get some playoffs.


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[Assistant] I think BOSA at 7-1 feels probably one of the better ones here just because, you know, Michael Parsons at plus 180 is just so low, it's probably not worth it.


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[Assistant] Taking right now, but you know, through four weeks he weeds the NFL and sacks. There's no reason he can't keep that up.


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[Assistant] And then you look at the 49ers schedule. They have another game against the Rams. They get to play the Carolina Panthers this week. He might get a few more sacks on Baker Mayfield. And then you just look at the rest of their schedule, but they get to play the commanders and everyone gets the sack. Carson Wentz.


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[Assistant] So I can see Nick Bosa, uh, racking up a few more sacks and being in this race at the end of the year.


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[Assistant] Uh, and maybe even Derek Henry. We saw him miss, uh, nine games last year during the regular season. He slowly seems to be getting his footing back this season. He looked better.


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[Assistant] Each week, and he's someone who could end up leading the NFL and rushing in at 10 to 1, that's decent. But to Brent's point about Brian Robinson, I feel like there should be like a rule in the comeback player of the year voting where if you get shot twice and you make it back to the field and you literally do anything at all, rush for five yards, uh, you should automatically win the award.


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[Assistant] So he was hired January 7th, 2020. And I like to sometimes go back and look at the press conference when the coaches were introduced because it's like, you know, uh, the beginning of your relationship in high school with your girlfriend, everything's, you know, rainbows and unicorns. And then by the end, it's just, it's, uh, Heather's. I don't even know if you ever watched that movie. You ever watched the movie Heather's? Yeah. That's fantastic. Uh, but anyway, so I went back and looked at some of the comments.


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[Assistant] Here's something that David Tepper said at the introductory press conference, or at least speaking with the Panthers media. I think Matt Ruhl can come in here and build an organization for the next 30 or 40 years. Okay, that didn't work out.


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[Assistant] Uh, he also said, he's impressive in player development, sports science, recovery techniques, intensity of training, integration with the strength program. He started talking about how he develops players and how he's going to pick his staff. And we all went from being in an interview mode to recruiting mode. Everyone just knew. We switched without a word being said. Uh, pro tip, maybe next time some words should be said.