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[Assistant] Sort of a vicious cycle, it sounds, from what you're saying there, Bernie. And that, that, that final William seat then, if, if it's not Logan Sargent, and obviously we don't know that yet, that, that I'm sure will be decided over the next month or so, who do you think would be a good option for that, for that final William seat?


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[Assistant] Bernie, just, just finally, what, what were the kind of attributes you looked for? What would impress you when you, when you got a driver coming to you? What, what are the kind of key statistics and, and how is that? Why is this? I mean, it's a million dollar question, but why is there sometimes not that transfer from F2, say, to Formula One?


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[Assistant] And it's, yeah, it's that final place on the grid. So there's, I mean, yeah, by this point in the year, we, I think there's normally a few more places still up for grabs. So yeah, it's, it's very interesting. We will see what happens. Uh, but, and Bernie, thank you so much for your time. Really, really appreciate it. Uh, go get some sleep. I'm sure it's going to be the order of the day.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's fine. We'll edit those out, you see. You can edit, yeah, that's all good.


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[Assistant] No problem at all. Uh, thank you both. Uh, we're gonna be back next Tuesday where I'm joined by Jessica Hawkins, who drove a Formula One car for the first time. Uh, it's a fascinating interview about her. I mean, we literally get her just as she's out the car. So it's, it's really, really interesting. And yeah, fresh insight on what it's like to drive a Formula One car. So hope you can join us then. Have a nice week. Bye for now.


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[Assistant] I am Matt, yeaah, again, uh, cause I was there just last week, uh, for the World Endurance Championship, so, uh,


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[Assistant] I'll come back for a week and uh, back out there again today, so uhm.


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[Assistant] Uh, my body doesn't really know where it is. I've only just got over the jet lag, so I haven't been talking now. And I'm gonna go and do it to myself all over again, but yeah, different location.


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[Assistant] You don't and you've got those lovely rice pillows to look forward to as well and rock hard bed. So yeaah.


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[Assistant] I don't notice that unlike, uh, Crofty or not yourself so much Simon, but.


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[Assistant] It was really one word that Simon already stole another one during, during that, uh, and that chat there. I was going to say refreshing. It was refreshing to see a different winner, Red Bull not in the mix, right at the sharp end. And it kind of justified everything that we had been saying all along.


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[Assistant] You know, not so much take Red Bull out of it, out of the equation, but you take Max Verstappen out of the equation.


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[Assistant] And suddenly you've got a mega race on your hands and that's what we've been seeing from second place down pretty much all the way through this season. I would say it was different. It was strategic, tactical.


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[Assistant] It had a mix of everything, uhm, the only thing, uh, the only thing at the end, uh, it was just a shame that, it was just a shame in a way that, I think everyone was behind Mercedes in a way, like, you want the underdog to kind of come through, and they'd, they'd,


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[Assistant] Played a blinder with a virtual safety car. Boxing both cars.


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[Assistant] Prairid left Leclerc out there to do the defensive work, get his elbows out, but that didn't last long. And they were just on this surge to the front, and it was just, we could all see what was coming. We were watching the lap times coming down and...


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[Assistant] Purple sectors flying from both drivers, and uh, you're just waiting, waiting for it to just, yeaah, get right to the front, and then it kind of, it didn't quite happen, but uhm, it was brilliant nonetheless. Absolutely brilliant.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it really was. I mean, another one word for you that I've kinda toyed with using earlier on. Symbiotic.


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[Assistant] It was the relationship, usually between two different organisms, uh, helping each other out in some way. And that's exactly what the Ferrari and the McLaren were doing of Lando Norris and Carlos Sainz towards the end of the race. It was very symbiotic.


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[Assistant] Symbiosis in full flow that was, because Carlos knew he needed Lando there to help defend him.


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[Assistant] By him having DRS. So, and Lando was protected by Carlos by giving him DRS. So it was a, it was this two-way relationship that beautifully worked. The two of them are obviously very good friends. They, they maybe can read each other's minds as well. They've grown up racing against each other and...


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[Assistant] It was, honestly, it was amazing to watch because it was subtle, but Carlos, he, he played it brilliantly and...


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[Assistant] As a driver myself looking off, I could see exactly what he was doing and I was incredibly envious as well at the same time because that was, it was very hard to execute, uh, and that's exactly what he did. There was even a moment when Lando and George were fighting each other down towards turn 16.


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[Assistant] And Lando had lost quite a bit of ground to Carlos.


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[Assistant] And before the final corner came up to, uh, 1890, the gap had risen to over one second.


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[Assistant] And I thought, this is going to be George's chance now, down towards turn seven, he'll be in the DRS. But Carlos had spotted it, slowed down intentionally through the final corner and the first sequence of corners to make sure his buddy was right there behind him once again down the back straight towards turn seven, had the DRS. So he was, even the team didn't know what Carlos was up to. He said, leave it to me.


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[Assistant] I know what I'm doing here. You're probably not gonna understand right now, and I haven't got the time to explain.


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[Assistant] But watch this. It was awesome. Absolutely awesome. He utterly deserved that big treat.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they really do. Ferrari have come under the spotlight numerous times in recent years, you know, not getting their strategy completely right, not optimising their car, the two drivers sometimes not even really seeing eye to eye and not working well together.


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[Assistant] That race, everything came together. Uh, there'll be some people questioning why...


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[Assistant] They didn't pit Leclerc under the virtual safety car, because that would have, that would have helped his race. He was falling, personally he was falling back from car loss, uh, and that would have definitely helped.


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[Assistant] Further hurt the Mercedes fresh medium tyres in their quest to try and get back to the front.


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[Assistant] So yea, they used him wisely. He understood the game.


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[Assistant] He backed off when he needed to at the start of the race to give that three or four second gap that the team were looking for. Uh, I think it took a little while to sink in for Charles, but then he realised quite quickly that that was going to help protect the lead of the race for Ferrari from a potential undercut of Mercedes. So, or, or McLaren.


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[Assistant] So together they just worked brilliantly well to make sure that they had covered their backs and also push when they needed to and Carlos knew he had the speed.


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[Assistant] We saw it all weekend. He knew he had the speed to match Mercedes, or even better them, and that of McLaren as well.


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[Assistant] And that's why he was comfortable at the end of the race to, to do what he did. He knew on the s- on equal tyres.


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[Assistant] He had the measure of Lando. It was, it was, you know, the Mercedes that were the threat. So yeah, it was, it was a strategic race. And I think you can, you can definitely applaud Ferrari this time without question for, for how they played.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Carlos has definitely proven in the last two Grands Prix that his defensive skills are, I think they're the best out there. I really do. He's so wise in where he places the car.


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[Assistant] He can understand the, what's going on behind him so well. Uh, yeaah, he kept his teammate at Bay of Monza.


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[Assistant] He fought incredibly hard with Max, who's, you know, it's no mean feat to try and keep him behind you. And he's willing to take a good amount of risk as well, but it's a calculated risk with Carlos. He's a very classy driver.


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[Assistant] And I mean, he, he can still work on a little bit of that speed on more, uh, higher speed, faster flowing circuits. Street track's very different.


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[Assistant] You often see different drivers come to the fore for whatever reason, uh, at street tracks. You know, we've seen Lewis Hamilton get beaten at Monaco in the past from the likes of Valtteri Bottas, Nico Rosberg, and we've seen Max get beaten in the past by Danny Ricciardo in Monaco and Singapore is


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[Assistant] Hasn't really been an incredibly strong track for Max.


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[Assistant] And different drivers seem to excel at these street tracks and I think Carlos is one of those drivers that...


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[Assistant] You know, yes, Monza was a great weekend for him. Singapore's obviously been fantastic for him as well. But I want to see that level of performance roll on into Suzuka because that's, that's a more traditional kind of circuit where you would naturally expect.


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[Assistant] Leclerc to get the better of Karloff. So I'm waiting to see that this weekend come in.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the teams are constantly updating their cars as well, don't forget, so, I mean...


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[Assistant] I think this year's been, more so than last year even, now they're fully understanding these cars and where the performance comes from.


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[Assistant] They attack this season pretty aggressively with their updates. And we've seen so that the likes of McLaren.


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[Assistant] They've surged forward this year. Ferrari have made good updates as well, Mercedes, uh, Rebel have stayed constantly up there of course, but uhm, Aston Martin are the team that haven't quite


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[Assistant] ...kept up with the pack, and it's very easy when everybody's making those updates constantly through the year.


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[Assistant] It's very easy just to think, well, nobody's really brought anything to the table. It's pretty much a stalemate, but Aston Martin have lost out.


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[Assistant] But it's far from that. Uhm, I know from, I mean, I don't want to give too much away, but just from my experience in the simulator, I've seen the car improve, uh, taking it back to different circuits, uh, earlier in the year.


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[Assistant] On say the current aero configuration you see that you see that relentless improvement through the season and everybody's doing that. So if you do stay still.


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[Assistant] You will fall behind the pack. So Ferrari are definitely one of those teams that have kept up with the pack. Maybe their updates have edged ahead of teams like Aston Martin that we're seeing recently in the last couple of races.


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[Assistant] Again, two very different circuits, Matt. You know, models are.


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[Assistant] People think of it as this high speed circuit. It is. Because it's got lots of straight lines. But it hasn't got many high speed corners and you don't run a high downforce there. So, it's all about the braking and the slow speed corners. Just like Singapore.


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[Assistant] You wouldn't think the two really are on the same plane here, and in terms of downforce, no. But in terms of car requirement...


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[Assistant] Braking stability, slow speed corners, lots of traction.


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[Assistant] That's what you need at Monza as well. So the Ferrari's been quite good on those circuits. All Seas, not Montreal as well. Another one, more similar to Monza. High speed straights, long braking zones, slow speed corners, lots of traction.


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[Assistant] That seems to be where their car shines. So in the same way I'm saying, I'm waiting to see whether Carlos can match Charle in Suzuka. I'm waiting to see whether Ferrari can carry on this pace when they get to a higher speed, faster flowing circuit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting one, isn't it? It reminds me of when Mercedes were in their dominant years and they arrived at Singapore and that was their Achilles heel and everybody else had a chance to get the better of them there and they went away and worked on that circuit.


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[Assistant] Uh, relentlessly, because it was their only weakness. They understood they had a weakness there.


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[Assistant] And then they came back and they, in a couple of years they had sorted it out. So I fully expect Red Bull with a great engineering team that they are will get their heads around it and, uh, and, and.


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[Assistant] And kind of engineer that into next year's car, the RB20. But uhm, I also think it's not a circuit that...


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[Assistant] That Max particularly enjoys so much, uh, you know, beaten by Perez there last year and you know, the way the strategy unfold and everything kind of went against him as well, but I.


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[Assistant] Max will be much more in his element and the car will be much more in his element in Suzuka. I'm fully expecting that. I don't think this new TD, the rule change in terms of the


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[Assistant] More static, front wings not allowing them to flex quite as much, and the floor, I- I don't believe...


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[Assistant] I don't believe that was the main issue for Red Bull in Singapore.


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[Assistant] I think it requires a lot more mechanical compliance and agility from that circuit, not just downforce. So obviously downforce helps you everywhere.


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[Assistant] As I say, as a driver, downforce is your friend. Uh, but you know, whatever speed, that's why we run higher downforce at circuits like Monaco and Singapore, because it does work at slow speed as well, not just at high speed.


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[Assistant] But it has less of an influence in the slow speed compared to the high speed, so I don't think it was all to do with that.


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[Assistant] There'll be many teams out there crossing their fingers and hoping that that is, that that's why they lost their speed there, but I'm fully expecting them to go back to Suzuka.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and the car will be flying again, but it is interesting and it's nice to know that they, that they have these, uh, this weakness in their car.


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[Assistant] Maybe that will be the case, you know, maybe it will hinder, hinder them a bit. I mean, there are rumours going around, I'm not suggesting for a second that this is Red Bull, but there are rumours going around that teams were...


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[Assistant] Using the, uh, the titanium skint blocks in the underfloor of the car in a way that would


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[Assistant] I don't know the exact technicalities to it, but would move and allow the teams to run their cars lower, and as we know in this ground effect era, if you can run the floor closer to the ground, uh, you're gonna get a bit more suction, the car will have effectively more downforce, and happy days because you're not, it's not a drag penalty by


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[Assistant] Gaining downforce from the floor of the car as much as you would from a wing.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, if things like this are going on with different teams up and down the field.


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[Assistant] It must be a little bit of a negative impact, but...


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[Assistant] You know, like I say, not suggesting, I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. It's all I've heard. I've read it in the, I've read it in the, you know, online as well.


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[Assistant] And you know, these rumors are out there. They don't come from, from thin air. So, and the regulation wouldn't have changed if the FIA didn't feel like this was going on. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I believe, you know, it has been going on. They're clamping down on it. And yeah, let's see if there are any, any shakeups, but I don't think it's going to really affect Red Bull.


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[Assistant] Stranglehold on the competition in those high speed circuits. Okay.


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[Assistant] It's one that every driver's been through in their career.


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[Assistant] Is in your junior career or, you know, when it's in the limelight and spotlight of Formula One, the world watching over you, uh, let alone for the, the lead of the race or potential lead of the race like it was for George. So you've been that hero for so many laps in the race.


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[Assistant] And you just, you feel like you can walk on water and then, and then suddenly reality hits you very hard in the face and...


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[Assistant] Yeah, he'll pick himself up. He definitely will. He's young, he knows he's got the talent. He knows the team are right behind him, but...


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[Assistant] It's embarrassing, as he said himself, you know, as a very elementary mistake.


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[Assistant] Silly mistake, and it is not like, it's not like it happens through a corner and he just lost the car and, uh, or understeered wide. It's just placing off the car before you turn in and it...


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[Assistant] I've seen it happen so many times, you know, people just dicking a wheel, like Sergio Perez in first practice, first lap in Budapest on his outlet, dips a wheel on the grass and spins off and goes into the barrier.


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[Assistant] They've all done it. It happens to the best of them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, he's just gotta pick himself up, but it's gonna hurt for a couple of days.


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[Assistant] The thing I, the thing I loved him for and the team for is that they tried. It would have been so easy just to sit there. In second place, like Lando did, he would have picked up a nice shiny trophy with P2 written on it. And yeah, it would have been good. The team would have scored loads of points and, uh, and.


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[Assistant] It would have been quite a boring race actually, towards the end, watching four cars trundle around behind the Ferrari, and after its tyres, everybody else on the same, same set. It could have been a really boring end to the Grand Prix if you think about it like that. But, George wasn't willing to accept that, and neither was Lewis, and neither were the team.


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[Assistant] Driven, uh, pushed by George the whole race. What can we do to win this? I wanna win this. I don't wanna finish second. I wanna win this. I can't overtake him on track. We have to think outside the box.


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[Assistant] And them doing what they, they made it a race. They, they all, Mercedes and their drivers made that Grand Prix a fantastic Grand Prix and one that was nail-biting to get through to the end. And I don't, I don't really, I don't care that George ended up in the barrier because he showed fighting spirit and determination.


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[Assistant] And a will to win. And it was, it was, I win this race, or nothing, for him. And, and that was...


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[Assistant] I, I, I just, you know, in a year where you're not going to win the world championship, it's red balls, it's maxes. Why not? Just, let's turn it into a motor race. And that's exactly what it was to, it is, I, I, yeah, I, I would like to think that I would have done the same thing if, if I was in that situation. Just go for it. What have you got to lose?


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[Assistant] Well, I had a brilliant saying, uh, during my time as a driver, Matt, when they, ah, she was, she was deferring. It came from him. And, uh, you know, I was asking him at the time, what do you think I should do when I was a test driver? What do you think I can do? You know, is there a chance? How do I propel myself from being a test driver onto the grid? He said, it's simple and...


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[Assistant] Just, you take care of the present and the future takes care of itself.


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[Assistant] And I thought it is, I never forgot that. I thought that is a brilliant line. It's so true. And that's all that Liam can do. And so far he is, he's, he's really performing well. I've been super impressed with what I'm seeing so far. Uh, out of the last three Grand Prix, two of them have been incredibly tough. I mean, Zandvoort.


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[Assistant] With those mixed conditions thrown into the deep end with no testing.


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[Assistant] Hardly knew the car at all. I think you'd only done one, one filming day in it or something like that around, around the short circuit at Silverstone.


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[Assistant] So I'm thrown into the deep end of Xanthor. What a Grand Prix to try and survive. He did. Did really well.


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[Assistant] Made a brilliant plucky move down the inside of a formidable Charles Leclerc into the turn 11 chicane. Precise.


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[Assistant] Excellent showcase of visibility and determination.


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[Assistant] And then Monza of course, you know, another, another good weekend, uh, but an easier circuit, I must say one that any rookie would choose. I think looking back at Nick De Vries, uh, from last year, any, any drive would choose Monza as a circuit to.


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[Assistant] You have their first go at or, you know, an early time behind the wheel.


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[Assistant] And then this incredibly hard weekend at Singapore as well. I mean, what a track to, to, to try and drive your fastest around in a car you barely know in those tough conditions. And my goodness, he did a great job there. Like, like you said, Matt, in qualifying, pipping Max Verstappen.


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[Assistant] But no, he's out there for himself and I think he should be out there for himself. If the Red Bull deal doesn't work out for him, I know they've nurtured his way and they've paid his way to, to come about, you know, is it for this opportunity to come about.


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[Assistant] But in the same way that we've seen Pierre Gasly make his own bed somewhere else.


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[Assistant] If he has to do that, and, and, I don't know how their contracts work there, maybe take a financial hit as well, because I'm sure they sign up for a long time with the Red Bull program, uh, so be it.


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[Assistant] Potential hot property here in Liam Lawson. You, you, you have to nurture the young talent. And finding time behind the wheel is pretty tough these days. You've got Daniel Ricciardo still there. Once he's fit, he'll be back in the car, of course, and Lawson will go back to his super formula. Or will he?


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[Assistant] Do you really want him to be doing that, or do you want him to continue to hone his skills in Formula One?


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[Assistant] It's probably a better option. I would be wanting that if I was the team owner at Red Bull. I'd be thinking...


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[Assistant] He's done well so far, and he's done this with such limited experience.


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[Assistant] Where's, where's the limit for this kid? Uh, I wanna see that, I wanna put him, you know, still out of the spotlight, relatively speaking, potentially in the Williams.


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[Assistant] They get a good driver from it and we get our talent to continue learning his skills, uh, and against a formidable driver like Alex Albon, uh, in a nice environment.


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[Assistant] And yeah, go and learn there, and then when we think you're ready, or there's a space for you,


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[Assistant] We'll definitely have you back and then you're going to be closer to the finished article.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that Red Bull will surge back to the front. Uh, I think, you know, they'll be the team to beat.


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[Assistant] Acer Circuit I think will really play to the strengths of their car.


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[Assistant] Max flies around that circuit as well as one that he loves. Uh, so they'll be the ones, once again with the target on their back, uh, with, with the rest of the pack trying to catch them. Um, I'm, I'm sure it'll be, uh, you know, a much more plain sailing weekend as far as Red Bull go.


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[Assistant] After that, I think it can be, it's gonna be quite tight. I'm intrigued to see where the Ferrari can keep this pace up. My gut instinct is that they won't.


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[Assistant] Will Aston Martin be better? Uh, I feel like they've been slightly left behind in recent races. The updates...


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[Assistant] I haven't really been working out for them. Other people have leaked in front of them in the development race. Leapt in front of them, I should say. Uh, and...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it'll be Ferrari somewhere close to Mercedes and McLaren, but this time I think it'll be...


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[Assistant] I think he'll be McLaren and Mercedes, whish ever order in front of the Ferrari come the end of the race on Sunday.


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[Assistant] We will do Simon, yea. And sushi as well, I know you love. You'll be missing out on it.


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[Assistant] It was really good. It was really good. You know, I was mainly here because my kids are doing F3 and we had a really good weekend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the pace we had over the weekend and especially in the races was insane. So it was really good to see.


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[Assistant] You know how much effort he's putting into it. So it's really, really exciting. And you know, from the F1 point of view was, was really enjoyable. You know what I mean? You look at qualifying and.


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[Assistant] I think with a minute to go, you never expected, you know, Verstappen on pole. It just didn't seem like they were not even showing him. It's like...


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[Assistant] You know, like everybody, I guess the TV, the way they do it, they kind of know who's coming and what they're doing and the cameras go there and, you know, they got max in the last sector. That was, you know, right.


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[Assistant] I don't know why, but like we did cyber last year and it was the same thing. I think most of the European races were raised about 8, 8.30.


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[Assistant] That short of a race track compared with the current tracks. Qualifying wouldn't be that exciting.


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[Assistant] Like on the screens on this, it was point zero point zero point zero point zero point one. As I, it's insane. You don't have people, you don't have people running away.


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[Assistant] And you're in your toes waiting to see who can find that extra tent that in Monaco is huge. And being a street course, you can find that tent.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? You push that little barrier a little closer and you go to the apex a little closer and...


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[Assistant] The small details make a massive difference.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean the rain was a great twist.


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[Assistant] And in a way I think Aston generally had a better winning.


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[Assistant] When they went for those medium tires, that it was shocking.


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[Assistant] But they, if you, I mean, yeaah, they're, they thought, okay, he's in hearts, it's gonna rain a little bit, we're gonna put mediums, Mark's gonna have to put hearts, uhm, we're gonna look really good. And I think that's the play they went for it. What they didn't see was the month of rain and it was coming.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so why didn't Lewis behind, uh, Fernando Purwitz on the same lap?


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[Assistant] In a funny way, I think Arthur went for broke with the intermediate, with the...


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[Assistant] I mean, this year they came out with a great car. You gotta give it to them. The car is unbelievable. It has really good speed.


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[Assistant] Of driving the whole team behind him. You gotta give it to him.


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[Assistant] The big question mark is can they replicate and come up with something as competitive next year? If you're talking long-term. It's, you know what I mean? You're not going to say what they did this year was a fluke.


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[Assistant] They came out this year worse again than last year, and you would have never thought


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[Assistant] After how much they dominated the sport before that they, I know they got a wrong last year, but come out this year without, with a worst car. It's like.


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[Assistant] How can they do that? So the chances of getting a car wrong are not that, I mean, I think it's harder to get it right than wrong.


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[Assistant] So what do you, if you're Aston, then you look at, you know, if you're him and you look at Red Bull's flat, then do we go back to a flat car? What do we do?


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[Assistant] Well, Mercedes kind of has the same thing. The key thing here for me is, apart from getting the key people, is getting them to work together and understand that each one has its own responsibility.


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[Assistant] And being able to bond all together. Because it's very easy. You can bring, you know, the best aero guy, the best suspension guy, the best everything, but each one is pulling their own way and thinking they're right and the other guy is wrong.


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[Assistant] Uh, you're never going to succeed and being able to get all that and that's a little bit what Mercedes.


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[Assistant] I did before and Toto's where Toto was really, really good is put everything together and Red Bull is very good at it as well, so.


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[Assistant] I think Lawrence really understands.


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[Assistant] And everybody, I think Fernando is kind of the driving force behind it right now. Everybody, when Fernando got on board and is doing what he's doing and is bringing people together.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think where Fernando is right now is in a really good situation because...


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[Assistant] He understands that is his last chance to, to win again. They build a really good car.


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[Assistant] The better they're gonna be. I think in the point of his career, he, he's okay sharing, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, you can share everything as long as you believe you can still be the guy. And you still gotta bring your A-game. And he's doing that. He's bringing the A-game.


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[Assistant] And, and if you see Lance, you know, you look at through qualifying, there was times where Lance was really, really strong. It's just.


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[Assistant] He's still missing a little bit, but you know, Lance has come a long way and I think Fernando is going to make him a much better driver.


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[Assistant] I'm okay with what he did. Yea, I mean with a car as fast as he had.


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[Assistant] You can either sit in line and do nothing or, or try.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, you missed a point or two. Is that what you said to Sebastian yesterday then?


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[Assistant] On the breaking when he was, when he finally got next to him in turn one, when they got to the breaking zone, the guy hit him in the middle of the breaking zone. And when they came up the hill.


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[Assistant] When they went through the little zigzag of the hill, the guy actually moved right and kinda opened the door. Sebastian went in and the guy chopped the door. And...


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[Assistant] If you, if you're the guy in front and your tires are going off and you're burning your tires up just to try to keep one person behind.


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[Assistant] No, but it's true, and if you look at his pace at the end of the race, we were about two seconds a lap quicker than anybody. That is a copy of me. That is, you know, I mean, it's really, really good.


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[Assistant] And it's the same in qualifying. I said to him, look, if you do three good laps in qualifying and you get a chance of a fourth lap.


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[Assistant] I don't want to hear that you have a couple of tens somewhere.


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[Assistant] And he clipped the right rear in the back and we were on pace easily for Paul.


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[Assistant] Then come back and say, oh, I gave up two tenths here, a tenth there, and a tenth there.


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[Assistant] And I'm okay going over it and making a mistake and learn from the mistake and understand how far you can really go.


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[Assistant] And I think he's doing a mega job on point about that. At the same time, after the crash, I said, look, like knowing that you have such a fast car.


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[Assistant] You could have been a little smarter and picked a better place to be, to risk the car.


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[Assistant] Because at the end of the day, when the guy's hitting you every time you get next to you, you're gonna end up bouncing into each other. And you just gotta find a way where you might have a little bit of upper hand when you bounced into each other. That's absolutely fascinating.


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[Assistant] Lance has an opportunity. Lance is a lot better than people think he is. And I think he's very underrated.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Like, he needs to come out of his comfort zone.


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[Assistant] And in a way, that's going to be a couple of shunts and a couple of ohs. And what he did in Monaco trying...


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[Assistant] It was the right, like, I understand where you're starting with the fast car you have. Everybody goes for the inside in turn one and everybody checks up.


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[Assistant] And he went for the outsides and, and it wasn't wrong. And then when you get to the hairpin, now everybody covers up. And, but when he went to dive bump, you know, somebody kind of arced it and he was kind of unlucky, but I'd rather see him try that just sit there.


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[Assistant] Because next time he does it, the next guy, the guy knows he's coming and knowing like when you're passing somebody and.


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[Assistant] And they know you're coming, they'll give you the room because they know you're okay with hitting them.


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[Assistant] He's very good at understanding. There's few things like the, his understanding of the tires. It's insane. I'm very good at understanding the peak of the tire and the grip of the tire.


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[Assistant] But like the overheating, the things that happen with the tire is really cool to see.


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[Assistant] I was like, oh no, no, no, here, just relax a little, do this here, it's gonna help. I'm gonna like, screw you.


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[Assistant] Is the reality. I don't think you can expect to be at this level and, and tell your kid or whoever you're looking after, hey, don't risk the car. Don't try to pass because you might do a little bit of damage because might as well just go home.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't know how involved he is or if he's involved at all. I think he's more enjoying the ride than anything else. I think at this point where Max is...


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[Assistant] Uh, it's just different times, you know what I mean? It's the hybrid systems, all the things that go on nowadays are foreign, you know, foreign objects for a lot of us, you know what I mean? Like for me, the Pirelli tires are, for me in a way, you know, they do a great job for everyone and everything, but


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[Assistant] Like, for their marketing it's amazing because it's a topic and you're talking about tires all day.


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[Assistant] The guys winning because their shoes are better than somebody else's, you know what I mean? Or they're in the right window, the rubber, you know what I mean? It's kind of strange, but this is where the sport is right now and the importance of understanding the tire is a big part of it and it's a big part of all of the drivers to understand how they need to manage it and everything.


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[Assistant] Where in my time, I'll give an example of when we used to do tire testing when I was in F1.


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[Assistant] Initially I tried, you know, manage the tires and they came back and said don't manage them, destroy them.


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[Assistant] I'm like, but they're going off. I'm like, yes, we need them to go off to understand what we need to do, how to make them better because it's the only way we're going to beat the competition.


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[Assistant] I really enjoy tire testing. So we normally testing used to have two cars. It was the BMW car that normally used to be driven by Marc Genet or the test driver and the race car for the tire testing that was played between Ralph and myself or Kimi and myself.


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[Assistant] Where in the other car you're qualifying, you know, 20 sets of tires in a day. It's still driving an F1 car Matt.


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[Assistant] Thinking about performance all day, you don't realize how important the engine making it to the end is.


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[Assistant] When you go to the races to win and you're running 18th on the grid, when you know you can win, it's the most miserable time of your life.


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[Assistant] And everybody around you, it's the worst person on earth and you don't want to talk to anybody and everything about going to the race track makes you miserable. And also, you know, you see.


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[Assistant] This bright light at the end of the tunnel that you think it could be another world championship and the chance of being seen, you know, not seen, but the chance of.


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[Assistant] Really even another win and maybe even a championship and dominance.


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[Assistant] It's, it's easy and then you're in a great mood and then when they talk to you, you're this new happy person.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. I mean, in a way I agree, but the other thing you gotta understand, Fernando at his point in his career, he has nothing to prove to anybody. And I think right now he's proving a lot of people wrong and is telling a lot of people to shove it.


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[Assistant] You know, because a lot of people, when, probably when he was signed at Aston, a lot of people thought, why would you sign him for so many years? Or why? You know, I mean, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] The drive to be, you know, to prove people wrong and tell everybody, you know, I suppose to shove it in.


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[Assistant] And make everybody like you. You know what I mean? It's like...


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[Assistant] Vettel just left the, you know, F1 last year and nobody's even talking about it. It's like he didn't even exist in Aston last year.


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[Assistant] And in a way, he was probably a big part of why the car was competitive this year. He drove the team in the right direction in suspension, in geometries and feel what he was missing and everything. And he hasn't even been mentioned.


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[Assistant] You know, we were probably the only two guys that spoke Spanish.


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[Assistant] Um, and we always had a really good relationship. We were both, they didn't really care what people thought of us.


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[Assistant] So he's never seen the American side of things, where for me,


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[Assistant] Before I did F1, I went to America and I saw both sides of the world and I knew both sides of the world were paid. You know what I mean? So.


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[Assistant] At his age, there's not really a big deal, you know what I mean? It's, he, you know what I mean? He's on his prime.


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[Assistant] And because he's done it for so long, F1 is not complicated, F1 is not...


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[Assistant] It's not, you know, let's not say it's not magical, but there's no, it's your job. And it's like, you know, you can have the best job in the world, but when you don't really know.


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[Assistant] It's not intimidating. It's just a job and, and it's the challenges to get the job done and to win. Uh, and that's it. And you show up in the race weekends and you have no pressure. You can only do good.


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[Assistant] If the team is off on a weekend, but they're off, you know, we struggle here. And when they're good, you know, they're enjoying success.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's a fast track. Remember, probably the highlight of the Aston is slow speed corners and the last sector that got rid of the slowest corners. And it's two, one probably in qualifying, both of them were going to be wide open in DS1.


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[Assistant] I would agree on that. The other thing I think interesting going to Barcelona is...


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[Assistant] The Mercedes package, how is it going to perform? Because all the changes they did for the downforce are kind of irrelevant in Monaco. The handling,


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[Assistant] Barcelona is the number one place where you're going to see a difference.


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[Assistant] So that's going to be interesting to see how much they really have stepped up.


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[Assistant] In a way, you could see a lot of things coming. You look at Pato last year, for example, he backed off in the last corner thinking championship for the Indy 500 when he had started winning it.


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[Assistant] And this year he was with a revenge and he wanted to prove to everybody that he was never going to back down. And he didn't back down, but he turned into the grass.


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[Assistant] Like, I understand how stressful of a movie it is because I've done it, but he made a mistake and it paid the consequences.


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[Assistant] Um, but from there on, he just packed the whole field and put the race upside down.


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[Assistant] You know, for New Gardener, you know what I mean? To pass earlier if you wanted to get him back.


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[Assistant] The way he had such a good restart on New Garner that...


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[Assistant] There's just no way to come back. Like, there was not enough momentum.


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[Assistant] To be able to build a back and, and you gotta give it to Joseph. He did some brave moves into turn one around the outside. Like he committed more than the guy. If the guy inside would have committed, it would have been ugly. But he had the moves, he had the confidence and, and he delivered and.


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[Assistant] If you look at Indy, 90% of the time,


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[Assistant] At the end of the race are the usual suspects fighting for the win.


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[Assistant] It's surprising, you know, it's a shame, Palau was a shame because I thought he had a winning car.


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[Assistant] I think he generally, like he had the winning card in my opinion. And you know, Dixon, I don't know what's, I mean, I think with Dixon is to the point that.


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[Assistant] It's in his head and it doesn't matter what he does, they get it wrong. You know what I mean? They can win everywhere, but they go there and...


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[Assistant] But it was, I mean, entertaining as hell. As always, most of the races really calm.


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[Assistant] And everybody gives each other room and, you know, somebody gets it wrong and you end up with, you know, crash here and there, but...


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[Assistant] Oh my god, that shootout at the end, it's nail biting. And I think from Indycar to bring the red flag with the right call, I understand the frustration that you're not going to get a pace lap because they want to give the, you know, the fans a better show.


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[Assistant] And you're going to go, Oh, that's unfair. Everybody, you know, every other restart you have, um, in a way.


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[Assistant] If that was the rules, you probably could have do something different if you're leading the race. To, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] The lab counts and what are they gonna say? Oh, you shouldn't gone. But the lab already counted.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like for him, I think he, when he's rolling backwards, he feels, ah, okay, you know, crash is done and lifts his visor to get out of the car. Like you're still sliding.


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[Assistant] And instead of having like going to Silverstone, instead of having a ton of corners, you have four cups.


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[Assistant] You know, straight cops, straight cops, straight cops, straight cops. And you gotta make it around cops 800 times.


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[Assistant] No, I don't drive that high when I race. Honestly, you kind of know where to turn and you kind of aim where you want to land the car. What we call about landing the car is because the banking. It's not a lot there, but as the bank increases, catching the right angle into the banking is really important.


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[Assistant] I took my wife on a two-seater and she was shocked how quick it was.


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[Assistant] How are you doing? Very, very good. Thank you. How are you? Yeah, very good. Thanks. Thank you for having us in this incredible room with


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[Assistant] All of the cars from Williams history, it's incredible to be here, and I guess a reminder, if ever there was a need, that Williams has got this amazing past in Formula One. Yeah, you summed it up well.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Do you ever just come down here and just sort of by yourself, look around and kind of go.


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[Assistant] Four or five months now, and is Williams, is Williams starting to feel like home for you?


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[Assistant] You've obviously got the role as team principal at Williams. I'm fascinated to know how does one become a team principal at a team? And I just want to get into the kind of the recruitment process. Who approached who? How does that work?


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[Assistant] It's such a varied role, isn't it? As a team principal, I think that's, we only see often on telly the kind of race part of it, but, but you are the focus and the driving force behind the culture of the organization, I guess, aren't you? At the very top.


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[Assistant] I want to get into some questions from people at home because we've had lots in for you.


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[Assistant] You had a hugely successful career at Mercedes, eight constructors titles, seven drivers titles. What's been the big differences coming from Mercedes to Williams?


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[Assistant] Break on Twitter would like to know, what are your motivations for joining Williams? What do you hope to achieve in your time here?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Williams fans will be very, very pleased to hear that I'm sure. Now we've got a few questions in. I don't know if you have seen them on Twitter. I don't know if you're on Twitter. Maybe try and stay clear of all that kind of stuff. But we've got quite a few questions in about the floor of the Williams car. So in Monaco, we obviously saw the bottom of the Mercedes and we saw the bottom of the Red Bull.


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[Assistant] And there were a couple of viral photos going around showing sort of a Williams, a Williams floor that looked.


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[Assistant] Do you have people in your team, will people in your team have been looking at those photos and studying them and kind of going, oh, what's, you know, what's that little bit there or how do we think that works and then taking that into your own design?


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[Assistant] Take us into the, into the sort of the cycle of a Formula One team across the year and the development. For example, now are you, are you looking at 2024?


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[Assistant] And how much of your energy is going into this season and how much is going into next season's car?


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[Assistant] How has being at the top of F1 with Mercedes shaped how you approach a team at the back of the grid?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you were of course a part of that, so you've seen that first hand. I want to talk about the drivers.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what are the big differences between Logan and Alex when you were...


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[Assistant] Or if that's perhaps a little challenging as a question, which is the drive you've learned the most from?


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[Assistant] Speaking of other drivers, you've got Jamie Chadwick as your Williams Driver Academy.


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[Assistant] More broadly, how close do you think we are to getting a female racing driver in Formula One?


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[Assistant] You're very open about the issues that Williams have and the mistakes that are made, giving details and explanations. We've heard that in our coverage on Sky. You're obviously on the pit wall and it's been brilliant to get you on there.


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[Assistant] But what's made you decide to kind of have this open nature? Because it's not always something we see in Formula One.


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[Assistant] Yeah, definitely. Final question. How do you switch off?


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[Assistant] I'm James, thank you for your time, really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Cheers.


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[Assistant] Wow, that's a great question. J. Cole shouted me out on his last album, which went double platinum. That was pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Drake did on his last album. Best in Rod Floss. Yeaah, yeaah. A lot of my friends loved that one, so. Yeaah, you listen to these guys and they throw your name out there, it makes you feel pretty established. I'm a huge hip hop fan, man, and that's always been a part of your culture to me.


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[Assistant] I do actually, I enjoy making music, just like, uhm.


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[Assistant] What Chamberlain? Oh, I go Magic Johnson. Let's get you the ball. Yea, Magic. He was next level, so yea, I'm a huge Magic fan.


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[Assistant] Put me on too much under the spotlight, man. I have too much pressure on me right now and I'm pissed that I can't get this, take advantage of this.


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[Assistant] Oh my godfather. Yeah. He was back at home in Maryland. He taught me how to play the game.


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[Assistant] I played against Kyrie a couple years ago in the Olympics. We had the Xbox set up. He's pretty good.


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[Assistant] I play that like seven, eight hours a day sometimes. It's amazing. Me and my friends go online and play. So much fun.


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[Assistant] Oh no, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. The game is so real now. It's like watching film almost, you know. They have so many different modes on there as well. They have a GMO that I play non-stop, and I really feel like the general manager. The game is so real now, it makes it seem like you're actually really getting better, but you're probably not.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, Rick James bringing back to a time where like I first started listening to that type of music. I remember when I was probably like 8 years old and I heard Fire and Desire with Tina Marie.


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[Assistant] And uh, I spontaneously just got a tattoo on my thigh, and I think I'm really be excited about it once I get older. Show my kids Rick James on my thigh, they're gonna really think I'm a cool dad. So, it's, it's light years. That's what I think it is. It's a light years thing. You got, you can't, you don't know what I'm doing. You can't think of the time. You have to, you have to be looking around the corner. You can't know what I'm doing unless, you know, I had to explain it to you for you to get it.


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[Assistant] He signed with Rock Nation as well, so we both kind of knew the same people and I asked him for some signed gloves because he was my favorite boxer and I didn't know him at the time. Then when I moved to the Bay, we just got tight and came out to support him there.


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[Assistant] So happy that he won, man. He's a real, real good friend of mine's and our relationship was growing.


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[Assistant] Toby is a god to me, uh, basketball wise. So just to see him actually know my name at that time. I was 18. It was surreal. Did you learn anything from him? Uh, yeah. Every time he touched the ball, shoot it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it would be Dane. Yeah, he's the best rapper in the league.


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[Assistant] One person I wouldn't go to is Draymond. So let's get that out the way first. Yeah, Westbrook. Easily.


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[Assistant] My game, you know, that's what gets me the most. If you tell me I can't shoot, or I can't post up, or I can't pass, or I can't rebound well, or I don't defend well, or I got uhm, yeaah, you'd say that, I'd go off. Your mentions right now are just-


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[Assistant] But I'll, uh, definitely try to make you feel stupid. I get the, uh, snake comments so many times. I might just tap two of one of those on my arm. That's the next thing. Spin it.


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[Assistant] That's just like, why would you even make that?


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[Assistant] They don't let me create my own content and they don't let me tell my own story. So how can they tell my story? Uh, without even talking to me. Two, that's why I'm on YouTube. I get to tell my own story and it's told by me, the person that actually went through it.


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[Assistant] It's hard for me to kind of respect someone who criticizes if you've never even been on the stage before, so.


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[Assistant] Well, I'ma be all about the players. I'ma be all about the players. All about what they want to do.


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[Assistant] Streetball scene, see, that's why I started playing streetball. That's how I know basketball, through streetball.


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[Assistant] Beifarms and Watts, that's where I grew up, so.


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[Assistant] I learned the game playing streetball and then I started watching NBA later, so I didn't really start loving stars until.


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[Assistant] I got like teenage years, so before then it was the street ball legends that did it for me. And Kurt Smith, who I named was the best one.


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[Assistant] But everybody knows what it is, it just hasn't hit mainstream, but it's deep in our culture. Both.


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[Assistant] I'ma go, uh, I'ma go both. And then, what's your favorite monument?


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[Assistant] In DC, I never really went to the Miami Minutes. I never visited them.


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[Assistant] Y'all seem like miles and miles away so I've never been. I just, I don't know why now. I'm thinking about so much at one time right now.


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[Assistant] Fine, uh, perfect in a moment, you know, uh, we had a little bit of time off and, uh, which doesn't mean that we didn't work.


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[Assistant] You always work in Formula 1. Even if you don't race, it's not like that the people can go home and do nothing, you know, like in a normal job. You always keep pushing and there's always something to do. And the same is for me. You just do things which you maybe otherwise you spread them out a little bit, but it's a good way to catch up. I mean, we had three races plus the testing and then with this time,


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[Assistant] You called the time off. It's not time off. We didn't go racing for one weekend, you know, it wasn't off. But anyway, you just catch up and you try to get ahead. So when you get in now, the busy busy season, which is now, it's a double header coming and then a triple header, which is quite intense. At least if you start then with a...


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[Assistant] Uh, having cleaned up all your, uh, work which you left back, it's always nice.


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[Assistant] Like a lot of things in my life, it just happened, you know. I didn't plan to write a book.


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[Assistant] Somebody approached me, uh, you know, uh, you want to write a book? And I was like, yeah, I don't want to write a biography. I mean, everybody, a lot of people have done it and it's not something, you know.


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[Assistant] You say I want to do yet, I still want to work, I'm not retiring, so I'm not as important as the drivers. And I said, I don't really want to do that.


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[Assistant] I was told, no, the, uh, the, the, the book, the book will be, uh, your year. That was, uh, now I think 18 months ago that, that I was approached. It will be about next season, you know, uh, uh, just like a diary. Uh, we write about, uh, how the years, uh, what is happening. And I said,


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[Assistant] Yeah, but if nothing exciting happens, what are we gonna write about it, you know? Uh, because at the time I didn't know what would happen. We are pretty sure that...


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[Assistant] Something, something interesting will happen with you, because there's always drama around you. And, uh, I said, yeaah. You know, after a while you think, yeaah, maybe it's pretty cool, because, uh, uh, I knew that the fans like, uh, uh, the Netflix series. So I said, uh, maybe it's a good thing for the fans and, uh, maybe people can have fun with it. And, uh, that in the end was the reason why we did it.


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[Assistant] So it doesn't mean that I have time off when I work, but it's something I enjoy, so it doesn't come difficult for me, but when I have time off, really, you know, when there is a weekend between races, I just go home to North Carolina and stay with my family.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. And as you just said, 2020 and 2021 were very difficult for the team, very difficult for me. And then we put a lot of effort into 2022. And obviously the risk by doing that was...


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[Assistant] You roll 2021 off, but also you go into 2022, but everybody's expecting you to do better or to make a step, you know, so the pressure is pretty high, but, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] I was pretty convinced I'm doing this a long time, motorsport and, uh, uh, so I was pretty convinced that we can succeed and, uh, I think we made a good step forward in 2022.


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[Assistant] In racing, it's never good enough, you know that. So even if you win, it's not good enough because, uh, and we are pretty far away from winning, but, uh, uh, we made a step and, uh, we now have again a solid platform, I would call it.


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[Assistant] But maybe not only for me, also for the sound engineer, you know, because, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Again, eh, it was one of the things, eh, they, they, they said it would be nice if you did an audiobook, and in the beginning it was no, I haven't got the time, I'm not gonna do it, and then...


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[Assistant] But people want to hear your voice with your book, you know, because of your accent and all that stuff. But I always think that all the other people have got an accent. I haven't got one, you know, by the way.


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[Assistant] Either I do it right, or I don't do it, so I put the effort in, and even if it doesn't work, at least I can say, I put the best effort in I can, you know, if it isn't good enough, I mean, it can happen, there is always something you cannot do, so it was, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, heavy going, you know, and I did it in three days, but, uh, I feel a little bit sorry for the sound engineer listening to me for three days, you know, and sometimes I get stuck on one word that I couldn't say it anymore because it's, uh,


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[Assistant] My first, uh, language is not English, so, uh, you guys don't understand that, uh, all of a sudden you've got the word, which you cannot say anymore and you have to repeat it and repeat it. But in the end it all worked out.


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[Assistant] It has a big impact on a small team, but it also now has an impact even if it would be a bigger team because with the cost cap in place, this is money, you cannot develop your car.


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[Assistant] Because if you can, and then you don't develop your car, your car doesn't go any faster. So everybody gets frustrated. So, uh, last year, uh, Haas F1,


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[Assistant] Uh, if they go away, this is where you spend your money. So it's never very good. So, uh, therefore it is so frustrating because you can't do anything about it. It's not like, okay, now Gunther has to go and find another.


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[Assistant] Five million dollars on sponsorship, even if you find it, you cannot spend it anyway.


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[Assistant] I think there was a certain frustration when this happens. I get very frustrated, frustrated. I'm very emotional and I say things.


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[Assistant] I maybe wouldn't say two hours later, to be honest, but when you're sitting there and you know the effort which went in, the effort the people put in, not me, I mean all the people to make these cars, to make it all happen, and then things like this happen, and you get frustrated, but there is not normally, there is, uh, you get this moment of we need to change something, but then you have to think.


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[Assistant] If I change something, how do I change this in to be better for the team? It's no point to make just a decision. We finish here and then that I think where we started, where I start to really think.


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[Assistant] What do I need to do to take the team forward from where we are in 2022? 2022 we had a, I call it a good, a decent car.


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[Assistant] Next year, which is now 2023, uh, the plan was to have a little bit a better car. What do we need to get everything out of the car to, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Every point available, we take it home. And, uh, obviously I came up then, uh, getting an experienced driver, but, uh, it, it is not one moment where you decide this is the moment. It's, it's, it comes over a little bit of time and it just grows in you and say, we need to do something.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, I mean you have to, because the bug stops with me, you know, and you have to say, okay, this is what we did, I need to fix this, you know, I need to fix this for the team, like, I expect every team member to fix his area he or she is responsible for.


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[Assistant] I didn't see him this year. Honestly, I think I saw him at testing and I said hello, but afterwards I didn't see him because he's now at the other side of the paddock, you know, where the champions are and we're on the other side, so I didn't run into him in all three races, so I have no problem to say hello. I don't know how he will react, but...


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[Assistant] I think we are all grown up and uh, in the end we had uh,


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[Assistant] 2 years together, we tried to do something. We gave Mick an opportunity, you know, which, uh, we also have to, uh, I think needs to be respected. Haasef won, took the opportunity and, uh, uh, or gave him the opportunity and, uh, uh, you know, we all need to move on and, uh, uh, formula one.


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[Assistant] Quite a small circus, I call it, and you know, in the end, there's no point to fight or not to say hello to anybody.


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[Assistant] I think there was tried to put pressure on to keep Mick to blame all the team, uh, uh, uh, and I don't think that was good for Mick, you know, because in the end, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] They didn't actively try to divide us, but that's what they did, I think, because obviously he didn't feel good when he heard the things talked about me, and I didn't feel good coming from their side. So in the end, they tried to divide us, and as I always said, this is not good for me, even if you try to do this, because


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[Assistant] In the end, we have the team in the end decides who is going to drive the car, not the driver which car he's driving. So it's no point, uh, uh, to, to, to upset a team about the driver because you want to say, uh, uh, Gunther didn't, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Take care enough of Mick and how I do things. So in the end he scored points. Nobody says that is because Gunther managed Mick like this. Nobody came with that one and I don't expect that because like I don't expect to be blamed if he crashes, you know, because the driver has to


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[Assistant] And then if we didn't do that, we explained that, for example, an upgrade, only one path was available and you share it. But we are very open about it. We never hit anything or gave an advantage to one or the other driver because that's a principle of my, of my life. You need to treat people fairly to get the best out of it. Because in the end, who is, who wants the drivers to perform at their best?


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[Assistant] Me and the team. So why would I try to sabotage any of our drivers? So, you know, and that was not understood. And in the end, you know, this is part of our life, of a team principal life that some people don't like what you're doing. So, I mean, I think people know how I feel about it.


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[Assistant] I don't really care. I mean, if somebody doesn't like what they do, uh, don't, don't.


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[Assistant] Just say it, but it doesn't do anything. I will not change, you know, because I don't feel, uh, I need to change because of somebody who has, uh, uh, no vote in the team.


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[Assistant] I think at least you have to have now, and I learned that lesson as well, but at the time we didn't have a choice, you know. We took two rookies and we tried to make it work, and obviously now with having had the experience, I can


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[Assistant] Fairly say, uh, it was not a good experience and, uh, but I'm not blaming the drivers. I'm blaming ourselves for it. You know, I'm not trying to put any blame. It's very difficult with having two rookies and obviously having two experienced drivers for a team like ours is the best because we are still the youngest team in Formula One.


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[Assistant] Uh, and, uh, just getting always the advantage of a guy which has done this longer than we are doing it. Nico's driving F1 cars longer than his F1 exists. Think about that one, you know. So, uh, and that was always...


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[Assistant] In the beginning, we started with that one, we had Roman and we had Esteban. Esteban did only one year before, but he had one year, and that year was actually not so bad for him. But then we swapped immediately to Kevin, which had already two years in F1, because he always wanted experience.


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[Assistant] We could have a driver, which one had five years and one, I don't know how many Nikos got.


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[Assistant] Between 8 and 10, I don't even know, but more than the team has got. So in the moment, that is the...


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[Assistant] We are in a very good position. We are very happy with that because that's what we were looking for.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is one of the things and also at the time when I rang him once, uh, uh, there was not really sure, uh, what we want to do yet, you know, so I just wanted to feel out if he's available or not and also to feel a little bit.


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[Assistant] How big his hunger is, how big he wants to come back in, because if you think about, he was out of a full-time ride for three years, which is a long time. Obviously he did a few races, but I say full-time ride, it's like, how much does he want to get back?


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[Assistant] After a while I think, and I don't know how he played it, but after a while, for a while he didn't call and then...


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[Assistant] Because I, I, I thought, I think in the beginning he thought it is not serious what I'm doing, you know. And then after a while I think I actually want to go back to F1. I better call this guy up because we had discussions in the years before he joining us and we never got to it. So I think and then it just started, uh, uh, that I wanted to understand how hungry he is to get back into Formula 1.


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[Assistant] Very hungry, clearly. Absolutely, he, he, he, I, I, I think, and uh,


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[Assistant] It's very strange in Formula 1. When, when, when, when these guys leave, also Kevin, when they leave, they're all, yeah, I cannot win races with the D-Mine because only two or three teams can win races, you know. I'm not in that team, so I go and do something else, I will be fine, I will go and win races. Then they go away, and I think they win a race in...


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[Assistant] Another series, you know, which is always in VEC or in, uh, in IMSA or Indica, and it's always nice to win. But then I think they think VEC is...


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[Assistant] Was F1 not fantastic, you know, because F1 is the pinnacle of, uh, uh, of racing. And then, uh, it's just one of these things. They just want to come back to F1 and then they get hungry again because they miss it. Same thing. If the sun is always shining, you don't miss the rain, but the day is raining. You realize, oh, the sun was actually pretty good, you know.


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[Assistant] We always knew that there was a clash, but I personally didn't.


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[Assistant] We did not think, uh, that Russia will invade Ukraine, so we didn't make any arrangements, you know, we were not, uh, obviously you think about, but you don't make any preparation or you don't make a plan B, because sometimes it's like whatever happens, something will happen which is, will be very strange, because it,


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[Assistant] We didn't expect it, because if in the end you think here in 2022, a war happening in Europe, maybe not, you know, then, uh,


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[Assistant] How we got to know about it is very simple. I was at breakfast with Mr. Haas, with Gene, uh, on the first day morning, uh, seven o'clock as always with Gene in the, in the hotel.


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[Assistant] That's a habit, is it? Every morning when he's at the track. When he's at the track, when it's late at seven o'clock, you know, because he cannot sleep with the jet lag. So obviously we have breakfast and it's, it's very nice. It gives me time with him, you know, without, without, without other things to do. But then we were sitting there and we both, as you do these days, normally you go on your news and it was like the, you know,


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[Assistant] Russia invaded Ukraine. And, uh, that's wow.


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[Assistant] Come and sit with me in my office because I will make a lot of phone calls and


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[Assistant] If you are there, I don't have to explain to you what is happening. You hear it live. And, uh, uh, I just started to phone up people and people started to call me up and, uh, I had to wait until, uh, California was awake because they are nine hours behind because the both of us is sitting in California and obviously I had to get their opinion about it.


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[Assistant] I got everybody's support and we just decided.


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[Assistant] It was very difficult to tell him, Nikita, we don't know what we're gonna do. Because I think, uh, a young person, uh, you need to think a little bit more about it. It's his career, it's his life in front of him. But in the end, we had to terminate him as well.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, and I think a lot of people don't see that, because we didn't tell, but I mean, I have to survive, show a little bit what we have to do, we have to deal with sponsorship, we have to deal with the federation, we have to deal with the promoter, we have to.


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[Assistant] It's like being a CEO of a, of a, of a comp, of a big company, uh, which has got a lot of different things going on.


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[Assistant] And, uh, just less people. Instead of being a big corporate with thousands of people, we are a corporate, uh, the big teams with, uh, six to eight hundred people. And in the case of us, uh, two hundred people. But, uh, you have to, uh, do a lot of multitasking.


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[Assistant] Yeah, especially that year last year was in the beginning was just so intense. There was always something new coming at us, you know, and then also the freight being late and then.


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[Assistant] Going back to when we said in 2021 we are gonna write this diary, nobody anticipated that all this happens and this drama just happened is coming to us, you know?


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[Assistant] And I always say, can you imagine if you, if you would put effort into great drama, what would be able to do? You know, this is just for free, you know, this drama. It's funny that the publishers were saying.


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[Assistant] I'm not doing anything. I'm doing my job and people follow me and film me. So if I watch myself, I'm sure I would try to do things different. Then that would...


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[Assistant] Take me. I would think the next time when I'm filmed, how should I behave and not. And differently.


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[Assistant] I'm not an actor, an actor needs to watch himself to do his job better. I'm not an actor, I'm doing, I'm not the principal, so I need to do a job, so that's why I don't watch it, so at least in my head I always...


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[Assistant] I, I, I don't start to think how should I, how should I do next time when a camera is around? So, I avoid to watch it in the moment and, uh, uh, after five, uh, five seasons I've got used to it not to watch it and, uh, to explain to people why not because people say, are you not interested?


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[Assistant] I was actually there, so I don't need to see me. I know how, what I did and what I didn't do. Yeah.


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[Assistant] As I said, I didn't see it, so I cannot tell you if I can act, but this is me and I think a lot of people which know me a long time.


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[Assistant] Very strange, I got into FF1 because of Nicky. I did, obviously I knew who Nicky was. He was, you know, when I was a kid coming from South Tyrol, which is close to Austria, he was a hero to all of us, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, the day he called me or his secretary called me up, uh, uh, asking if, uh, that Niki Lauda wants to speak with me. For me, it was like, sure, I'm going to speak with Niki Lauda because I was working rallying, was perfectly happy what I was doing. Uh, but if, if somebody, uh,


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[Assistant] In my position, as Niki Lauda wants to speak with you, you know, uh, uh, it's something.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure, and we spoke, I went to see him for dinner in Vienna one day, and the next day he called me up, you're gonna work for me. And we established a very good relationship the year I was with him at Jaguar, and I...


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[Assistant] Getting into F1 is quite difficult. And as I said, I didn't try to get into F1. I was perfectly happy in rallying where I was. But being brought in by Niki Lauda to F1 is just...


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[Assistant] Your introduction is so much quicker than if you have to do it yourself, because he's the guy which is respected. Everybody knows him.


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[Assistant] Always, we were always in touch. We spoke at least once a month, even sometimes when something was happening.


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[Assistant] Uh, weekly. And when, when I started to, uh, to build a pass, Nikki again helped me because if Nikki Lauda calls up somebody,


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[Assistant] It's a lot more than when Gunther Steiner calls up somebody, you know, so the difficult phone calls, I always said, Nicky, can you do me a favor? Can you call it? Sure. And, uh, I mean, the first meeting, the serious meeting with Stefano.


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[Assistant] Bernie, you have to listen to Gunther. I knew Bernie from before, but you know, there is always people which wants to work my team and that now this Gunther is coming and Nicky told him, he's serious. And that was Nicky, uh, uh, in making that introduction again. So my, my relationship was, uh, was always very good. And sadly he passed away a few years ago and I think Formula One misses him quite a lot.


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[Assistant] No, Kevin knows not to smash the door anymore. We don't need bigger, uh, bigger, uh, bigger doors or anything stronger. He just know he's not going to do that anymore.


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[Assistant] Is it what's happened to the door? Is it somewhere you should auction it? I think it would, I think it would give quite a lot of money. It's still in the motorhome, we still need it, you know, so. We are planning to change motorhome for next year, maybe auction it off, that's actually a pretty good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] No, I wasn't worried. I spoke when we, when I looked around for a driver, I spoke with Kevin how the relationship was because I wanted to make sure that I'm not, you know, if they were still head to head.


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[Assistant] It's difficult to say, I mean, who would have expected Formula 1, uh, to be what it is five years ago?


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[Assistant] Uh, can it go the other way, that there is, uh, other, uh, private teams again, that the manufacturers leave? I mean, the manufacturers left in 2009, 2010, they all run away, you know? Uh, uh, I don't know, I, I cannot answer that, but, uh, I think what it is in the moment, Formula One, uh, Formula One is in a very good place, and we try to keep it like this, but then,


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[Assistant] A lot of people ask me, no, I haven't got enough talent. As simple as this, you know, you need quite a little, a lot of talent to drive these cars because you need to keep the tires in temperature, which means you need to go fast.


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[Assistant] Not understanding, you know, apparently, because I never drove one, the aerodynamics, you need to understand them, that you, that you trust the car, because I'm used to drive a car, uh, without downforce, you know, like most of us, you know, all of a sudden you get this downforce. So, but, uh, I think if there would be a track I would like to drive it, if I would have the talent, it would be, uh, uh, Suzuki.


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[Assistant] Because I think that's, that's a very cool track for a driver. Must be so cool going through some of the corners there, uh, at that speed. It just must be something really, uh, really cool.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I was offered that one once when they were still around a bit.


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[Assistant] It's something strange. You know, when you work in this business, it's not something which intrigues me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so, because otherwise we are sitting here for a minute, telling my story. Exactly. Everybody may be falling asleep, you know, by telling them the story, but no, uh, it's, uh, if you look at the team principles now, they're coming from all different directions. I think it's one of these things which, uh, in life you, you need to first of all being at the right


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[Assistant] You need, in my opinion, some racing experience, and you can get it from various, uh, racing, uh, uh, parts of it, you know, where, where in categories, but, uh, you need to have been in racing, I think, because otherwise you struggle, because it, it is quite, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] A complex, I wouldn't even say complicated, but complex environment to move into.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, uh, he was a Ferrari driver and obviously we could have, uh, had him, uh, as a, uh, a one year driver.


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[Assistant] Uh, at that time we were not into having just a one-year driver because for a team that is normally


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[Assistant] Not something you want to have, because you train the driver, and then when, if he's a good driver, when he gets good, you move him on. So in the end, there's nothing else than a proving ground for a big team, so that's why we didn't do it. If we wanted, I don't know if Ferrari would have given him to us.


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[Assistant] For one year, but they gave him too sour at the time. Uh, so, but we were not actually bidding for him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we never have to forget his first drive in an F1 car was with us in an FB, in an FP2, uh, FP1, sorry.


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[Assistant] It's difficult to see in FP1 and the clever drivers, the really fast ones, they do not do anything.


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[Assistant] Uh, over the top because they don't want to take any risk and they are aware of this because the worst thing for a driver which gets, uh, uh, a junior driver which gets into F1 is to crash out in one of these F1 sessions because people will always remember that.


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[Assistant] In F1, you never take that off your resume. That when you sit sat in the, in the F1 car, the first or the second time in FP1 and you crash that, that's, you're, you're already, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] I mean, uh, I work with so many drivers, also in rallying, you know, uh, uh, I mean, if you, if you work with legends like Colin McRae, you never forget about him, you know, because he was...


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[Assistant] The guy had so much talent, you know, it was like, nobody could believe what he could do with a rally car and, uh, I wasn't there when he tested an F1 car, but they told me he was pretty good in it as well. Yeaah, so I wasn't there at that test.


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[Assistant] I like to work with him. I like, normally I like to work with most of the drivers. I work with Eddie Irvine.


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[Assistant] That for sure was interesting, you know, so, as you all know, uh, and, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] No, but also with our current drivers, I enjoy working with them. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Josh would like to know, what's your favourite hike in the Dolomites?


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that one he saw, uh, uh, on Netflix. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's, uh, uh, there is a story behind it. If you're from that area, it's the highest mountain there is 3,900 meters.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, and uh, if you are from there, you normally do it. You know, the amount, and I'm getting older now and I never did it, so I took the opportunity to do it, you know, and I really enjoyed it.


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[Assistant] It's just being out in the nature, you know, I get the feeling there is something bigger than us, than the human being. There is something there, you know, I just get the feeling of freedom and get in that feeling, you know, there is something big out there, you know. Lovely.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not practicing any sport myself, but to watch, I quite like to watch ice hockey, but I follow a little bit football, soccer, whatever we want to call it, but I just follow it. But I would say if I would do something else, really following it, it would be ice hockey because I played it when I was a kid. Yeah. Do you have a football team? No, not really. No, because no, no. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it's, uh, when we, when Haas F1 started in Australia in 2016, uh, it's, uh,


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[Assistant] The time there, you know, to start an F1 team from scratch, uh, it's a big challenge.


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[Assistant] Uh, with a lot of people, uh, told us it will never, uh, happen or we will be closing down sooner than we ramped up, uh, to go to a race because we, we, we introduced a complete different business model, how to do things and then going out there, being at the start, being competitive.


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[Assistant] It's just a nice feeling. You know, it's a nice feeling for the team. There were so many people which worked day and night to get there, you know, and give them the feeling to be there, to be organized as the other ones, even if you have to work day and night. And then, uh, at the race scoring, uh, at our first race scoring points, it was just a fantastic feeling.


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[Assistant] I think the fittest one is Toto, you know?


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[Assistant] But that has made him the best fighter, you know. Uh, uh, so, uh, uh, uh, I wouldn't be scared of anybody, to be honest, you know.


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[Assistant] Matthew would like to know what your favourite part of a race weekend is. Uh, qualifying and race. I mean, that is, that is why, why I do this job. I, I still enjoy that adrenaline when you go out there on qualifying and when a race starts, you know. And the qualifying, I think it's more intense as a,


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[Assistant] I think race car drivers in general complain a little bit. It's just like I think in F1, because they've got so much more exposure, we know about it more, and maybe they can be a lot vocal, but it is a way to voice when you are not content.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, sometimes they should realize that they are actually complaining at a high level, because being one of twenty in the world to drive these fantastic cars, there's not a lot to be complaining about. I think, especially now when all the cars are decent, you know, and obviously sometimes something can go wrong.


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[Assistant] But, uh, what I want to say to that one, we then complain about the driver when they crash and they cannot understand why we complain, you know. So, uh, uh, it's, uh, uh, I tell my drivers about that as well. I make them aware of, yeah, maybe the team did something wrong and you can complain, but next time when you do wrong, be careful what you get to hear.


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[Assistant] I would think so, you can never prove marketing thing, but I think it has given the team a lot of more exposure.


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[Assistant] Certainly got more exposure for all F1 teams, not just those at the front of the grid, right? Correct. It gets more exposure for everybody, I think, and opening up to people to look inside and what we brought to the party. I think everybody should be happy and F1 is very happy what they did for them. How have you seen F1 change?


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[Assistant] A combination, there is more fans and the demographic for sure, a lot of young people, uh, are tuning in now because, uh, uh, they were shown what actually happens there and they think it's pretty interesting. As you said, there is a lot of things going on. Uh, it's just, uh, uh, uh.


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[Assistant] They watch racing, I meet a lot of people in airports and things that, hey, uh, uh, uh, I, I'm watching F1 only because of you or because of drive to survive or, or, and they just tell you because I said I had no interest before in it, but I watched it and now I'm a big fan, especially in the States, you know, I live there and, uh, uh, it's, it's, it's pretty crazy there in the moment.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there is a lot of hard lessons, but the lessons I've learned to never give up.


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[Assistant] We did it under very strange circumstances, but we managed the circumstances better than all the other teams. So I think you just work.


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[Assistant] To need to work always hard and always do your best with what you have got and what you can do, the opportunity will arise. Because if you say, oh, it will never happen anyway, it will not happen. So you always need to believe in yourself.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it will be controversial, but that can be open about it because they are not coming to drive for me anyway. So, you know, that's also a problem, the controversy, you know. Uh, I think it would be, uh, uh, Max, uh, and, uh, Max for sure. And either Charles or George Russell. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think he in the moment is just a driver, uh, which, uh, uh, talent wise and mentally wise is just on a peak. You know, he's just on top of the wave. You know, he can do anything with a car in the moment. Everything seems to be going right for him and he has got them. His talent is very high.


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[Assistant] Uh, I wouldn't say Luis because, uh, he's getting on with age, you know, but, uh, there is another one which with age is very good. This is Fernando. I mean, the guy is over 40 and, uh, man, he, he knows how to, how to drive a race car.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, yeah, that maybe I didn't even think about that one because I don't think about it. If I do something like this, I think of that one afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't change a lot in the moment, and I'm not just saying that to be nice to have fun, but there is a lot of change going on in the moment where, uh, uh, uh, Stefano Dominicali is a good friend of mine, we talk quite a lot.


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[Assistant] We always see if there is new things going on like, uh, uh, uh, now hopefully in Baku, uh, we have got the, the, the sprint qualifying. That is a thing I, uh, I, I started to mention last year because I think, uh, if you have a sprint weekend, a sprint race weekend, the, the Saturday morning session is the more,


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[Assistant] Boring as hell in my opinion, you know, it's boring for me. I can imagine what the fun, uh, the fun is even more boring.