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[Assistant] And even with them shooting like they did the last couple of games.


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[Assistant] It's been a tight ball game. Yeah, right. They can never separate themselves, right? You can never separate yourself. So we have to get I think physically tougher.


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[Assistant] And younger, right? You just can't go young, young, young, young, young. You just cannot do it, right? It's just not.


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[Assistant] Not on the timetable we're on, right? Cause you look at these teams, these teams are now in the, in the, uh, semifinals, each conference final, right? Conference championship run. Have you seen the similarity between these teams?


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[Assistant] They're all constitutly made of basically the same way, right? I mean, if Phoenix put a guy in the game, who hadn't played at all, Terrence Ross in the game, right? Wow. Trade-up. Yep. Yep. He's just sitting there. Sitting there. That's funny. Could have been a cat. I didn't even know.


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[Assistant] And then he came in and gave him some reduction, right? Yeah, right. That's what this is made of. But defensively is how you win in this league in any championship run. You got to have a defensive presence that get stops.


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[Assistant] The playoff game changes, right? And you have to be able to elevate, typically it's done defensively. You gotta be able to lock down people. You gotta be able to get stops. When Philly was making a push yesterday, they had to get stops, right? So who on the couch is that guy? Well, let's see, I don't know if that person really exists. Would you get, uh, Pocahontas? Who? You know who Pocahontas is? Dylan Brooks.


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[Assistant] Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. And sometimes you have to take people that you don't want to take.


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[Assistant] The problem is when one bad apple can ruin the whole cart, right?


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[Assistant] Cause I thought, I thought, uh, DeAndre Russell was dead, was dead buried somewhere. No. I like, I thought when he was in Minnesota, I just thought.


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[Assistant] When you saw, when you saw Steph Curry sitting on the bench with that face. Like this. Hey, it's Stoneface. They play tonight.


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[Assistant] Oh, they've been, they've been fitted perfectly, right? Because they've been receptive of, you know, cause I,


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[Assistant] My style was really a mix of Garnet and Durant, right? But it was in a time when they wouldn't really accept Garnets and Durants.


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[Assistant] Right? So every time my game said do it like this, I kept trying to conform it back to what they thought, right?


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[Assistant] If they let me down, what I could do? No, never, right? I just had a guy that was coaching that could not. He was in old school. He wasn't ready to accept the new way that this game was played.


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[Assistant] You gotta go, right? And so, I was, cause I, you go back and pull the tape.


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[Assistant] They used to let me, they'd tell me to bring the ball up. Yeah, like here, you bringing it up. I'm initiating.


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[Assistant] So they was already prepping that. I was the prototype. The next one come in. The cool coach come in and not a game is as elevating change, right? We went to it. We went to a bat starting lineup at times.


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[Assistant] And if it wasn't starting, it was, it was, it was being played on the floor. Here's what, here's what, we had a huge lineup. So we had.


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[Assistant] Jordan at 6'6 and Pippen at 6'7 in the backcourt.


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[Assistant] Me at seven foot at the small forward, horse grand at power four to six ten, and cart right in the middle at seven one.


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[Assistant] Two years ago, two years ago. So we had, so we had, so you had two of the top 50 in the backcourt, right? And you had studs across the front that could do things, right? I mean, they would start off the game with me sometimes running, running me on a turnout on the baseline for a three to start the game off. You want to take this three off the beginning, right? I like that play.


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[Assistant] The other thing is you have to get out of your own comfort zone here, right? You have to take, you have to take a risk.


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[Assistant] And some people are risk adverse, right? They're like, ah, let me just stay with the safe play because I know what this play look like. And sometimes when you are an innovator here.


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[Assistant] You see things that somebody else, if you go to them and say Typhus, what about this? Typhus may not see it. Right. G may not see it. But if you're in a very like, no, I clearly see the pathways right through there and that's where I gotta go. And then, but you gotta have the conviction and the courage. Sounds like to me the Cavs need a seven footer that can dribble and shoot.


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[Assistant] I think that thing you need, you gotta have some people that can shoot the ball from outside for sure. We said that.


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[Assistant] I watched Phoenix as I was kicking the ball around the horn and people were stroking it.


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[Assistant] Final take. Well, you asked for it. You asked for it. You asked for equal opportunity in this country.


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[Assistant] As a father of four daughters, we have just created it because if you have not been paying attention to women in college sports, what you have now is created, free agency in college sports, and the women are participating.


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[Assistant] They've created a super team down for the pro level down and down in LSU Bad Rouge. And you see the NIL deals that these girls have been signing down there.


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[Assistant] Big money, big money. The NCAA, all you had to do was peel off everybody years ago. Yea, then everybody would have stayed home. Now you cra- the girls have now figured out how to leverage the system.


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[Assistant] And the system is not me standing in Louisville, me standing in DePaul like, no, I'm gonna parlay like Brian them. I'm going over here with KD them, right? Because where I go, TV gonna follow. And where TV gonna follow, the money gonna follow.


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[Assistant] That's what's happening now. So get ready for the ride because the LSU Super Team was the first. There are more coming.


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[Assistant] It was on page one, page two. I likened it to World War Three. I never saw publicity equal to that.


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[Assistant] The pain cut through like a shard of broken glass


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[Assistant] I began to understand how despair led people to just cash it in.


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[Assistant] How suicide wasn't just an option, but a rational option.


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[Assistant] I started to notice that Wenjun Liu's father had rarely left my side.


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[Assistant] We stood there for a long while, embracing, on the little sidewalk in front of the house where he had lived with his only son. Just two fathers. I understood all that he wanted me to know.


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[Assistant] And you can become the champion for those afraid people, that there's a lot of political opportunity in them.


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[Assistant] He's learning how to dip his toe in and out of these remarkably racially incendiary issues. He's learning how to dog whistle, he's learning how to signal, uhm, and also learning how to do that while keeping a little bit of distance.


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[Assistant] One of Joe Biden's chief responsibilities was to be an ambassador to the country, specifically to the white parts of the country, where Barack Obama's presence might have only further inflamed the situation.


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[Assistant] Joe Biden has been defined in public life by heartbreak and empathy.


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[Assistant] That when Joe Biden steps up at the funeral, you know that those tears are real.


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[Assistant] Some level of personal responsibility for the rise of Donald Trump. Joe Biden was the vice president, and he chose not to run for president. You have to imagine that's weighed pretty heavily on Joe Biden.


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[Assistant] Is a white guy who is so old that he was taking a position on busing in the first place.


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[Assistant] The deeply, deeply frustrated Black Lives Matter movement of like particularly incendiary video.


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[Assistant] But Syracuse University law school records released by Biden just last week show he sought a partial, not full scholarship for financial, not academic reasons, that he finished not in the top half, but 76th out of 85 students.


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[Assistant] Sure. This is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.


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[Assistant] The God who made this world was a wise God. He wants people who live life and like it. Love it!


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[Assistant] Uhm, sure, I'll let you take over after I spray this stuff in here. And you can spray the curtain and the rock and we're good.


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[Assistant] I'm a single parent mother. I've always worked, uh, up until I found out I had a kidney disease and was told by my doctor that they didn't want me to work.


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[Assistant] Because of the fact that I couldn't keep working, I do get benefits right now.


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[Assistant] Right now I am getting assistance until I get back into the workforce. So I do have to work hours off.


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[Assistant] Working off hours are basically hours that I'm assigned to be eligible for my benefits.


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[Assistant] We have sliced potatoes. What I get is $4.85 per month and I get approximately $400 in food stamp assistance. So I take $8.85.


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[Assistant] I am still required to work my hours for my assistance that I'm getting.


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[Assistant] If we're not allowed to work, then that means I can't complete my hours. So maybe my, my assistance could get shut down. You know, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I guess that's something that's all coming down the pipeline, but as of right now, we're at a standstill with knowing what's going to happen.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be getting his Chromebook and it's gonna be his homework and studies.


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[Assistant] I was told that they think that it's a blown head gasket. It's basically, my car is dead. When you have a vehicle, you have to have money saved back for that. Not always easy.


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[Assistant] Sorry, my car's broke down, so. It's been unfortunate. Especially during this time.


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[Assistant] Let's put these under here so they don't get wet. Nice Chromebooks.


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[Assistant] Ready to start your education. You want me to push?


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[Assistant] I am so, so glad that you get to start doing some schoolwork, son.


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[Assistant] You're homeschooling me, yup. Yup. Yeah, I mean, we'll figure it out together.


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[Assistant] The, the email said that Mrs. Matters passed away. Nuh-uh. Said she.


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[Assistant] And the school says that they're sorry that your life has been disrupted and they'll be making every attempt to support you. And if you want, we can request a phone call from your counselor. Okay.


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[Assistant] Watch cartoons with her, play with her, you know, those type of things that a father would do. So I tell Sean that he is her brother father. And he likes that.


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[Assistant] I want you guys to experience what it's like tomorrow when people come together.


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[Assistant] And when you stand up for what you believe in, I don't want you to be afraid to do that.


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[Assistant] When I turned 18, I moved into an area where it was predominantly black. And when I first moved to that area, my first feelings was, oh my gosh, there's black people, roll up, roll up your windows. I was scared because I was never exposed to that culture.


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[Assistant] Edward and Sean's dad and learned it was okay to love somebody that wasn't of my skin color. It just made me feel like...


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[Assistant] What my father taught, taught me was ignorant, disgusting, and stupid. I'm just glad that, uh, I didn't follow in his footsteps. I wouldn't have Sean, Edward, or Dior.


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[Assistant] Their dad isn't an active part in their life. I was with him 11 years, but ended up separating.


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[Assistant] And just running out of that tunnel, realizing that you actually, you know, made it onto your childhood dream team was a, was a blessing. Um, it was great to have family and friends there. I was an Ohio University kid, a Bay Village kid. So, you know, staying in the state of Ohio, um, it gave me a lot of motivation to want to do the best I could.


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[Assistant] I know that's my job, but when it's your hometown team that you care so much about, uh, sometimes it would put a little, I put a little too much stress on myself, um, but I think that opening game in New Orleans was my best memory. Probably, probably the worst memory was,


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[Assistant] Uh, that was a bad memory because I think we had, we had something going. I think that could have really helped us into the next season if we could have made a little splash in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, and it kind of ties into what's going on with parents these days where they're trying to focus their kids on one sport only. And I, I tend to disagree with that. I think that all these other sports can help you, uh, in, in your best sport or help you, you know, create better high-end, you know, hand-eye coordination, et cetera. But I'll get to that later. But to answer your question, G.B., I got,


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[Assistant] I was a three star athlete in high school. I played baseball four years in varsity. I played basketball. I quit my senior year to focus on football and baseball, and I feel bad about that. I wish I would have played. But yeah, football is a three year varsity starting quarterback. We won the conference my senior year.


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[Assistant] Uh, I had a really good team. Uhm, and then what happened is my junior, sophomore, junior coach, Kaiser, he's a, he's a, he's a legend, uhm, in Bay Village. He was in the Hall of Fame recently and, uhm, he says, hey, I need a punter. And I was a young guy and what he did is went to the practice fields and we,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, Tom was Ohio State quarterback, played at Arizona, big tall guy, strong, and that's kind of the difference between a little bit more of a punter and a kicker. I just think it's the background of


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[Assistant] How punters develop is different because I think if you ask many punters we worked with or I played with, excuse me, they wish they were playing another position and I always did too.


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[Assistant] It's funny to say that I texted Bubba because I played with him and I just said, hey, I haven't talked to him in a long time. I said, Bubba, congratulations. I'm really excited. If you want to get together, I'm here. And by the way, this is Dave Zastido. We play together. And I kind of put the years and he goes, Dave.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he had a lot of people follow his lead because he was such an extroverted guy on the special teams field.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll answer your question in a minute, but it's funny you say that because if you look at my stats on Inside the 20 Compared to Touchbacks until I got to Arizona, uhm, they were not nearly as good. And when I got into Arizona, I started working on this end over end kick. They call it the Aussie rules kick.


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[Assistant] We just, it just was so new. I think Darren Bennett came over as a punter from Australia in 1995. He was only one that did it. The problem is special teams coaches were trained for so long.


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[Assistant] Some guys hold it like this and the ball comes straight down and they still hit that bottom part. Problem is...


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[Assistant] Yeah, to answer your first question, you know, Matt was just a very strong punter. He had an explosive leg. The help that he played in San Diego State, the weather down there is pretty consistent and beautiful. So it was a little surprising when we went to Buffalo because we know how different of an environment Buffalo can be.


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[Assistant] Uh, in Matt's case was significant. Uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] It didn't surprise me that the team cut him at the time. Uhm, that's pretty consistent with what we see now and today with sports and teams wanting to keep their reputation and not wanting to do it with distractions and it's all about distractions.


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[Assistant] But as a player, it doesn't have to be a specialist. You know, this, you know, distractions are one thing, but football is just a sport we play. It's something we get paid no different than anybody else waking up and me and insurance business now going to get our job. But at the same time, your family is the most important.


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[Assistant] Uh, Pat did that. Uhm, you see, I think Bradley Pinyon, big strong punter does that and a few others.


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[Assistant] Uh, there was a guy that long time played for Detroit, I can't remember his name, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to, to generate that power and a lot of the, a lot of the kickers you see today and even when Phil played was older guys, you know, and teams want to save their legs. Uhm, and as you got your mid thirties, upper thirties that, you know, guys like Robbie Goldart who I think still does kickoff. He's, he's kind of one of the rare ones, but.


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[Assistant] They can go out and just kick down the end zone any time and save the kicker, but uhm, without being drafted in 02, there was a guy named Travis Dorch from Purdue, uhm, that, you know, we went to the combine together, we went, did all these, you know, hams or what not.


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[Assistant] Endurance in your leg in a practice to work on your craft and if you have to do an entire practice that I know I do and kick my routines punting and then stop and then go out do a full kicking routine, you're gonna probably wear your leg out.


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[Assistant] Probably easily middle of season, definitely late in season. And it's a lot on your legs, especially when you're doing it with kickoffs. So I think at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] Hunters typically hold. It can kick off. Kickers kick, could kick off. And I think if anything, uhm, it allows you more time to get more consistent on your craft.


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[Assistant] And punters today are about as good as I've ever seen them. So uhm, I think that's a, probably my guess on why you don't see a lot of guys do both.


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[Assistant] make something up. Well, first of all, I'm a bourbon, I'm a bourbon guy. I'd be very curious and what kind of bourbon you're leaving, uh, Dequel, but, uh, no, I, I, Dequel was a great friend of mine when we played together. I, I just, I just loved him as a person, loved him as a player. Uh, we get to get together at some events still and, you know, seeing his family and he's just.


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[Assistant] He took the game, he was, he took such a business-like approach to the game. Uhm, he was our leader at linebacker, he was fast, he had great instincts, uhm, and, you know, for us, in my time in Cleveland, quite frankly, throughout my career,


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[Assistant] Yeah. Hey guys, I love listening to GB. You're doing a great job, man. Love following you and I wish you guys the best of luck. Appreciate it. Thank you.


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[Assistant] It was staged just like a celebrity apprentice thing.


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[Assistant] Man, we gon' see, man, we gon' get these dudes in here arm wrestling or something. Yeaah. And real quick, this is for


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[Assistant] Hey, but big time win before we get to the Bulls better today. Shout out to a bull. We need to get him back back in here. He make you got some money on these bets, but shout out big time win it for the guardians, man. Getting some of those Yankees, man. I'll put you listen. We'll take it. It was three to two, right? Three to two.


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[Assistant] Taking all that, we'll take that 3-2. Let's see if the Guardians can get back on the board. Let's get the Bulls best of the day.


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[Assistant] Ah, this is, see yesterday, so uhm, I'mma toss this because I kinda threw this, I threw this out there earlier. I said it's the third round, fourth round.


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[Assistant] You know, fifth, sixth, seventh round picks. I mean, how bad you gonna get? You gonna get?


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[Assistant] If you don't, you know, these guys aren't really starting for you or have big impacts. Uhm, I'll start with you, Brad. You pull up your list. When we look at the, uh, these impact guys, as far as Siaka Ika, uhm, you got, uh, you know, you got the receiver, uh, Tilden, uhm, you got, uh, uh, Mitchell, uh, the first four people.


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[Assistant] We haven't really delved into Judge Wills. You play defensive line. Uhm, if you see the scout report and you see a lineman you go against, offensive lineman, and they say on the scout report, does not finish his blocks.


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[Assistant] What do you think when you're going up against a guy like that? And you see maybe somebody can get a move on him and he stops in the middle of the play. What's your thought process on film?


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[Assistant] Now Jason, you've been on the record, you've talked about it before, and you've talked to, you know, Stefanski, you've talked to Barry.


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[Assistant] They like the progression of one Jedrick Wills. Uhm, you know, what are your thoughts on them extending him in the picture?


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[Assistant] Um, I think it is- Oh, you're telling Deshaun way in there, watch your, watch your side on the side. I think, I think, I think there's, what I love about all these draft picks is,


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[Assistant] Now you got an opportunity of to have somebody behind you looking both ways. See, I like people looking behind themselves. I like competition. So do I. Absolutely. I like to have people in the room and what I like to do is I like to mix it up a little bit. I'm like, hey so and so.


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[Assistant] Let me give you some reps that go out real quick. Let me see what you got right there with us.


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[Assistant] And this is an easy one because I look at the roster and I say, okay, which guys is more likely to get on the field?


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[Assistant] It's always difficult, uh, as an offensive lineman, unless there's an injury or you out and out just outplay a guy, head and shoulders above, right?


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[Assistant] And I'm like, Deezus, right? They just, they just reset it. It was like, man, they can't stop it and fatigue is on. Guys was holding their shoulders.


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[Assistant] This guy, boogie, you know. They not gonna be able to move him up out of there with no one guy. He's not gonna be flying out of there on down blocks. He's not gonna get washed.


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[Assistant] That is not going to happen. And you can tell them how important is it to have somebody that can anchor and hunker down when they is trying to double team you and move to the next level because that's what they're trying to do. They're really trying to move the nose to the second level and then spill off and hit one of the linebackers.


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[Assistant] How important is it to have a guy to keep the linebacker clean?


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[Assistant] I think, I think it's a trickle down there as you go to safety too, like.


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[Assistant] Back in the day, you used to have a box safety and a high safety. Now box safety was more like a linebacker than anything. You're Brian Dawkins of the world. Uh, yeaah. You've been looking at John Lynch. Heck, Mike Dawson was a box safety.


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[Assistant] But I'm waiting to see which team says, you know what? We're not even starting sections no more. We going to corners. So, I'mma play four corners in the back.


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[Assistant] Uh, when linebackers, now my old linebackers that we used to traditionally have linebackers, they're my safeties now.


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[Assistant] So I want my safeties playing linebacker and then corners, your elite corners will be up front. So what I want though is.


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[Assistant] Even at the linebacker positions, I want safeties that still can cover, that still can run. Because what they bank all you're doing is, especially teams like the, you know, you got George Kittle, and especially with the Kansas City Chiefs, they say, alright, well look,


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[Assistant] Keep throwing that linebacker out there and Travis Kelce keep killing people because you can't cover him with no linebacker.


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[Assistant] So, you know, I would have to force them to do that. Even when you look at defensive ends, the defensive ends are now more


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[Assistant] They're more of what we would traditionally call stand-up outside linebackers.


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[Assistant] Those guys are now getting up the field and they don't really worry about the run too much. They just say, hey, listen, you rerun on the way to the quarterback.


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[Assistant] So everything is getting downsized a little bit, going to more speed, more packaging, uhm, and, and things like that. Uhm, but there are a couple of downs where you, you take the time machine and go back to the old 2000. That's first down.


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[Assistant] I was like yeaah. Nobody ain't said this yet. This is gonna hit different. And then here you go walking out here, stealing my stuff. But I'll give you an analogy though. Hey, y'all ever been new in school? Right? You know what I'm saying? Been new? Or you go to another grade?


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[Assistant] You like, listen, I'm a new dude. Listen, some gonna hate me, a lot of these dudes gonna be hatin', but one of these two of these fly girls gonna like me. I'm just, I just gotta keep myself prepared.


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[Assistant] I gotta keep my cologne on, I gotta keep my Tommy Hilfiger on, that's what we were back in the day. The Techno Ring, the FUBU, I had all the FUBUs with all the joints, the bright FUBU. Yea, people don't remember that.


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[Assistant] And then when Polo came out, I said, y'all ain't even got no Polo. This is true Polo. Not to swap me Polo. This is not Polo Assassin. This is legit Polo. And so you know what?


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[Assistant] People might like you. You like, man, this joint like me right here. I'm in here, but you gotta be fresh. It's the same way in football. Deshaun Watson really ain't chose nobody yet.


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[Assistant] All these quarterbacks, there's always, all these top elite quarterbacks, how often have we seen it where you get this top flight quarterback and all of a sudden they say,


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers likes this guy in camp. Tom Brady really likes this guy, he's been throwing, he really, he was with the threes, now he with the two and a halfs, like he getting some reps on the nickel packet.


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[Assistant] He's going to develop a chemistry with one of these receivers and they're going to get elevated.


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[Assistant] It's gon' be Donovan Peebles Jones, could be him, could be Elijah Moore, it could be Amari Cooper, heck, it could even be Cedric Tillman.


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[Assistant] Cause that, cause when you got a big body, when you got a different skill set than other people and you knew.


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[Assistant] Andrew Young, all he gotta do is make a couple plays, right? Cause he done seen Donovan Peebles Jones for six, six, seven weeks. He's a new guy. He might like him, bring him in.


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[Assistant] Cause it take a little bit of faith to throw the ball to somebody who covered. Cause all of them look covered. He just gotta throw it in there.


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[Assistant] I tell you what, uhm, you know, this is, this brings me to a nice little segue, right?


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[Assistant] There is, when you talk about these positions and who's the, you know, who's going to make the most impact.


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[Assistant] There's a couple of position groups, man, uhm, that is packed. We gonna get to this happy face, sad face situation.


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[Assistant] And Jason gotta get low, like he gotta keep getting lower bro. I'm below to begin with. It shouldn't have that far to go.


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[Assistant] Uh, man, I mean, he's a bubble candidate, but they talked about him way too much.


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[Assistant] It's a numbers game and you'll see. Oh no, I've done these. I've done the math on them. Somebody got to go.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying it's gonna happen. I'm not even saying it's probable.


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[Assistant] It's something about seeing a man leave somebody with a football in his hand.


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[Assistant] Running into the end zone. You know what happens when you're intoxicated, you make bad decisions. Thank you. So look, I'm just saying, if he make a couple of plays against the twos and threes, I'm telling you, everybody and their mom gonna say, the light bulb has gone on for Anthony Schwartz.


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[Assistant] He gon' get, he gon' get, he gon' get some money. He's a, David Bell is like a four of spades, when spades has been played.


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[Assistant] It ain't really cut nothing. You can't cut nothing with that force phase. Unless you hold it long enough. Unless, unless you got, unless somebody got a whole hand of all suits and clubs and arts.


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[Assistant] I'll go, I'm gonna give him another chance. Kevin Stefanski raved about him all last year. I personally went, I personally said he was there. We'll go up to get to, he gonna have him in that, in that 5-Y package where he used to check it down. What's the title we had a couple years ago?


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[Assistant] I feel like if he- In kicks. In kicks. I feel like if he can return punts and kicks, I feel like King Grant is now on the outside looking in.


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[Assistant] And then I'm gonna give the smiley face to Demetrius Felton due to his dual citizenship.


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[Assistant] So you say you didn't already saw what it was with Felton because he was here. Saw it there with DPJ. You saw it with DPJ because I give you that. If you say, if you say I've seen what I've seen, I need it better. Jahkeem Grant is a guy who brought it, that brought it in and he was supposed to get us better. I want to see that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's right down the street. That's what we put it down. Now, I will say, now here's the thing. There was, who's the dude that, he went to TCU, um,


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[Assistant] This guy. Turpin? You talking about Gavante Turpin? Yeah, Turpin. What a story. He come back and running kicks for the Cowboys. You, you, you, oh, and that's, that's, I'm glad you brought that up.


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[Assistant] There's gonna be somebody in every single camp that's an undrafted free agent or a four-fifths round six that you didn't even think about, right?


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[Assistant] I told him about Whippler, I liked Nick Harris, he was going to be the starting center, he got a knee injury, he could play a little bit of guard.


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[Assistant] They brought Wes Martin in here because he had a relationship with, uh, Callahan. They even gave him a little bit of money. But I'mma, I'm gonna say Nick Harris because he can play center, because he can play guard. I'm gonna say he makes this rise.


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[Assistant] Oh listen, he don't even got a, Callahan don't even got a poundage table. All he gotta do is touch the table.


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[Assistant] That's why I'm, that's why I'm banking on when it's... It's my man's. It's like, you know how it'll be. Like we, we all have friends, right? Like man, this friend, my friend is a hothead. He talked too much. He probably did say that inflammatory comment, but you done been in bar fights with him.


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[Assistant] You think he's staking around G? No, no, no. I'm, I'm, I'm. You're as confused as I am. Yeah, I'm happy that, uh, he's up out of here. No, but that's not, that's not the second. Yeah, like, let me just put it clearly. Let me put my two heads together. Nah, fam, you out of here. You're done. Donski, Romanimowski, get up out of here.


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[Assistant] I believe, I believe that Barry, Stefanski, everybody involved understand quite clearly that they're about to change this rule to three because they would have never drafted him and then went back and got dobs, right? And so now they got all these smart dudes in the room.


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[Assistant] They all, listen, they all kind of mutes a little bit too. They don't even really be talking. They be having like captions underneath their bodies. So yeaah, they gonna be ready to go. Everybody good.


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[Assistant] Jesus, Jesus, hold on, let me turn these over right. I think he gon' be here.


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[Assistant] Do you value the pass rush ability or do you value stopping and run?


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[Assistant] Like if all things equal, they average, but one person has a little more pass rush ability or the other guy has a little more ability to stop the run, which one you gonna lean towards?


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[Assistant] It's because this, I feel like sometimes when you do get another coach, right?


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[Assistant] He may get something up out of you. I wanna give- I wanna give Jory Elliott-


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[Assistant] A single digit and some gloves and some spat. They didn't even tape his ankles. He was taping his own ankles at the house, didn't go into practice. So he's stealing money. How are you on the rocks? He's stealing money. Hey look, that's how dry we was.


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[Assistant] He, he gonna play. I mean, yeah, him and him and McGuire gonna be fighting for that second, that second position though. They about the same person. Okay, keep coming.


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[Assistant] Uh, Isaiah Thomas, they just got Maguire, they got Alex Wright, you think you're gonna keep Oboe, young ol' G is out there on the other end. Uhm, man. He's a VOC.


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[Assistant] I said, I don't know who, I don't know where that comes. Somebody else got to get up out of here though, but I'm going to keep them.


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[Assistant] And he has a recognizable name, so, you know, it'd be, it'd be subliminal a little bit. It'd be like, who do you want? Yeah, I like that. Isaiah Thomas. Okay.


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[Assistant] They just brought that, they got that other free agent tied in.


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[Assistant] He loves them. He loves them too much. He just, he wants, he wants them, he wants to rub their shoulders.


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[Assistant] So if I'm definitely not keeping three quarterbacks because I'm guys playing both ways, but because I'm keep because I'm getting rid of one tight end because I thought we was going to keep three. So I'm getting rid of him. And if we keep two tight ends, I could always bring in either, uh, uh, not Hubbard, but uh, what's his name? He said for Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] The tackle that we, you know who I'm talking about. And Dewan Jones on the goal line is double tight, tight ends and tackles. So I'm bringing in lineman on the goal line, uh, and I'm only going to keep two tight ends. So now I want to go back and reprieve what I said about receivers. I got eight receivers making the roster. Eight is crazy. Has anybody?


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[Assistant] I haven't decided. I might be kind of light on line backers if we only playing two backers. You ain't even heard me talk about the office line yet.


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[Assistant] There's a couple off his line, but he didn't even put up there that should have been up to that cut list, man.


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[Assistant] I was dead on the total for the guardians. And on top of that, I was kind of close to Mark Cooper while y'all playing. See the Duke of New Jersey. And I told y'all, I also told you.


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[Assistant] I also told you that, uh, uh, one Odell Beckham Jr. would get another deal, and he got 15 million guarantees. See, I'm telling you, I told you six games.


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[Assistant] If you just take the temperature to people outside...


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[Assistant] I can look at, and just going back to it, I remember the seasons where, I remember 2018 more than I remember this year, right? I remember how LeBron, that to me was his best playoff performance in 2018, carry the team. When you play the Raptors, you have a game winning jumpers.


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[Assistant] Just the way he carried them. Boston game 7, 2018. The 51 point game. Game 1 against the Warriors with KD. Come on man. I remember all of that. I remember the 266 wins more affectionately. I remember the Cavs was the first team that was really starting to bench celebrations and everybody hated them.


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[Assistant] I just remember that they was just winning. It didn't matter. They was winning every single night. They had a highlight and they had synchronized bench movement, right?


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[Assistant] I remember both of those seasons. This season, if you go walk down the street.


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[Assistant] People don't even like the Cavs right now. We gotta let this blow by. This is like a bad relationship at this point. We gotta let it get to the next season so we can be like, okay, I'm cool talking Cavs again, but people's hot about the way the season ended. This is not memorable.


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[Assistant] I like being clear about the vision and making it clear about what it is. Even the Bible talks about making the vision clear. You gotta write it down.


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[Assistant] Which one of y'all is going to do what Steph did? You said that's a 51.


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[Assistant] This is a possession where he won't gonna let him not score. There you go. James Harden. You see how he pulling up like that?


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[Assistant] Sometimes you gonna have to learn from looking at somebody instead of taking that L yourself.


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[Assistant] Like if I could watch somebody else that came before me, my man.


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[Assistant] J.B. and the coaching staff and the players could have said, even Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] Donovan, you supposed to, you should have been telling these guys, hey look, that Jalen Brunson dude, he gave me that work last year. Let me cut this up for you, Daris. This is how I got touched up last year. I refuse to let it happen this year, and I ain't gonna let him do that to you, so I'm gonna prepare you, we're gonna get it together, so we know what we gotta do. But guess what? They walked into it, and they almost expected it.


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[Assistant] Because if you say, you manifest, right? What you say in this world. So if you manifest and you say all the time, I'm young, it's okay. I'm young, it's okay. We gonna lose. I gotta learn. What you think is gonna happen? You think you gonna come out there and play?


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[Assistant] And do something different than what you've been manifesting? No, you're going to play young. You're going to have young turnovers and you have a mentality that that's okay. And I'm not saying that it's the end of the world, but what I am saying is sometimes in your life you can, you can have an opportunity right in front of you.


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[Assistant] As I simulate this, this whole little simulation for three, three years or two years left or whatever we got. The one thing that I liked about what you said and what you printed out there was, you know, when you have time and you talk about the value of time.


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[Assistant] We've sit here and talked doom and gloom, right? But if Evan Mobley come back and he can shoot 32, 33% from the three point line.


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[Assistant] He now has a 15 to 17 consistent foot jumper where he's shooting at it, but maybe 60%, 55%. He's, he's raising his free throw average up to maybe somewhere around 78, 70, almost 80%. And plus he now can put the ball on the ground, three dribbles.


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[Assistant] All of a sudden, you see his totals go up to 20, 21 a game, 12 boards, 13 rebounds. If they get there, they right back in contention. They can hang with anybody in the league.


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[Assistant] Well, I've already, in my heart of hearts, I didn't already make the decision. I already, like, I know for a fact that who's your best trade asset?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. But he's not, yes. But he's not moving. They not moving him. So you can't move Mitchell because you be admitting you made a mistake. Right. And you can't trade Darius Garland.


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[Assistant] This, this is kinda, this is kinda strange. I, this, this hit me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because here's what's gonna happen, and I'm just looking at the simulation.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, when you, when you extrapolate this thing forward, some people have always already said, you know, the pairing of Donovan Mitchell and the pairing of one, uh, Darius Garland. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Now look, I said this, this was funny, me and McNuggets was on the stream, and he said, Gee Bush, why you say that?


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[Assistant] Well, look bro, I said at one point during the season, we looked at this and we, we, we poo-pooed this. We threw it away. I said, uh, everyone asked, would you trade Darius Garland for Damian Lillard? And everybody said no.


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[Assistant] We laughed him out of the building, I half-heartedly said.


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[Assistant] I think that I was, I was seriously looking at that move.


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[Assistant] Would you, would you, do you feel, and this is just, this is just hypothetical, we don't want to get you back into trouble, because you done already messed the Donovan Mitchell thing up, you done messed it up, now, now you about to go to the dentist.


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[Assistant] Let me get Boogie, let me get back. I'm Damien Lillard for for Darius Garland. I'd consider that heavily. No, I would consider it for a rental.


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[Assistant] My thing is this, I'm analyzing and I'm looking at Darius Garland. I need to figure out and I think the Cavs need to figure out is Darius Garland, if they want to say this is a window, is Darius Garland the best person on the championship team? That's a legitimate question.


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[Assistant] Get it. Cause there's, there's a lot of teams and, and this is the...


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[Assistant] You know that the way you think about a basketball roster and a football roster is two totally different. Two different rosters. Because when you talk about basketball, you can have a really good team. You can have...


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[Assistant] Nice pieces, you can have people that bought in, that play the way you want to play, and you just sit there one day in the off season, and then you get to be the Dallas Mavericks, to say.


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[Assistant] I don't know what, I don't, we was just in the Western Conference finals, uh, we lost Bronson, Brent Kyrie in, now we're screwed, now they gotta re- almost rebuild it again. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Like you said, the Minnesota with Jimmy Butler. When they did that, I'm thinking, oh, Minnesota's here.


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[Assistant] And no, they weren't Minnesota. Jimmy Butler gets there and him and Carl Anthony Towns in the infamous practice where it just was untenable. And then you put the fact that Tibbs was the coach of that team. And you say, well, how did that?


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[Assistant] Now next year, the expectations are huge, right? You expect Trey Young to be Steph Curry-esque. You expect those guys to go there. However, it didn't get there.


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[Assistant] Then you have this panic move. I'm going to say panic move, but you, you go and say, okay, well we need to go out here and get DeJontay Murray.


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[Assistant] Is Darius Garland the guy if you don't have a Donovan Mitchell? And can Evan Mobley actually get to the lofty status that we thought he could get to? Because that definitely changes the way we think about the Cavs roster, does it not?


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[Assistant] The internet was on fire. But first of all... Just told the truth.


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[Assistant] Jesus Christ. So, so you, uh, you said you weigh a lot, man. Listen, you, you got, uh, a low center of gravity. How much you, how much you officially weigh?


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[Assistant] I like that one. So do you guys, so you guys are all playing, uhm, are all the home games in Canton? Yes sir. So do you guys, yeaah, I think y'all got like a village or something, like do y'all meet up, hang out, hang out, is there any like fraternizing amongst the squads, y'all, y'all kicking, play video games, what are you, what y'all doing over there?


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[Assistant] Man, I ain't trying to go to the Birmingham one. I'm cool. I'm straight up. You ain't caught a gang there. When you coming down?


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[Assistant] So, if you, I think you guys, I'm gonna get to a game, I'm gonna get to the game, uhm, in the next couple of weeks. Usually, usually I go to Canton.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what made you choose the USFL over the XFL?


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[Assistant] Because those are two competing leagues and, you know, you see those little guys on TV and you see you guys on TV. What made you choose at USFL or XFL?


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[Assistant] Uhm, when you look at, you take a look at the USFL, and I asked Boogie this question and it turned into a whole thing. I said, you know, what do you do, you know, what do you guys do in the offseason, you know, to, you know, maintain yourself or do you have other work you do? And this dude was just like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] What are, what are some of the things that you do in the off season and do you have any other interests outside of football? And when football is over, what are some things that you look to do?


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[Assistant] That's crazy. Uh, so what did you get? So you was like the offensive player of the year, right?


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[Assistant] Hey listen, listen, we done had Moose Johnson on. Hey Moose, hey listen, come on man, step the game up bro. Listen, you got these boys, you at least gotta give them a trophy. Tyba still is taking this trophy around. That is a big thing. We need to, that's a nice formation by the way too, I like that. Old school, I like that.


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[Assistant] So when you looked at the USFL, and right now, who's in first place?


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[Assistant] That's 45 points, that's alright. I will say that the development, I think in the second year,


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the second year there has been more development of the offense. I think the first year, and I watched a bunch of the games the first year, uhm,


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[Assistant] It looked like the office took a little bit of time to get going. Uhm, do you find it now that, you know, got you guys working with people the second year, working with the same, uh, individuals as maybe sometimes the same coaches, you think that's helped that product out a lot?


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[Assistant] And if you, so let me give you, so you got, when were your season officially?


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[Assistant] How is that? So, you're gonna go July 3rd, right? So you've been, you've gone through conditioning, you've gone through training camps, you've gone through a whole season in the playoffs. You get a call from a protein.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is crazy, like, when you talk about the USFL, and I thought about it, uhm, if you were, say for instance, a high school kid, uhm,


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[Assistant] Would you consider, if I schooled some kids, say look, I'm trying to go, I'm going to get paid today.


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[Assistant] You know, could you forever envision a guy coming down and being like, I'ma just go from high school and just get right to the USFL?


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[Assistant] So talk about that mentality a little bit.


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[Assistant] I feel like if you play in the USFL and you doing that, like that's the trenches. Like that's like.


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[Assistant] You know, that's like, you gotta be, you gotta really actually love the game and you gotta really be about trying to make that ultimate goal because I don't think


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[Assistant] That you can be down there playing around if you ain't really trying to get it.


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[Assistant] See, let's get to this, man. I was, I forgot to ask y'all, right? So usually I have, you know, we have athletes, we have Phil Taylor in, we've had Cece Zabaffi in the building. So we ask him all the time. I even asked Brad, he told me, hey, you can't be asking me everything. I'm still asking him questions, you know.


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[Assistant] What, cause I be seeing y'all, I already seen two of y'all pull up here with the Balenciagas on, and I'm, I'm confused. That's twice that I see Boogie had them on too. Maybe y'all got them on the same, y'all, y'all, y'all, maybe it's the Kitten trip.


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[Assistant] They're like, yeaah, this is shareable sizes. No, it's not. First of all, we don't share. Second of all, the brussel brass should not be 55 bucks. What the hell are we doing here? Jason?


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[Assistant] Well, I did a lot of dumb stuff. Like the dumbest purchase I had was like I canceled a wedding just because I was petty and it cost me like that's true 24,000.


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[Assistant] I did buy that timeshare. Jason will tell you that damn timeshare. Like they made it seem so good. And I just now, by the way, if you get divorced,


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[Assistant] You still gotta pay that. So I ended up getting the time sharing the divorce and then had to pay it off. I got out of it, but it was brutal. Oh, oh no. Oh no. These guys are like,


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[Assistant] These guys are like loan sharks. They're like, you, you will do something. I had to pay like 5,000.


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[Assistant] It ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. Do never go and let them tell you that's an investment that is not.


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[Assistant] Do you take cash or credit? Yea, back in the day, see Brad, he has, Brad has that thing, you know, he got the, he the grumpy old dude, he has no soliciting.


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[Assistant] You get 30 seconds. Oh, yeah, man. This is why this is the greatest show ever lived.


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[Assistant] Because we bring people off the street. We bring people from all different walks of life. We got two dudes from the USFL. And they come in and we talk regular. See, a lot of y'all can't do this, man. Y'all be on the radio. Y'all be like, we have to prognosticate about what's going on with the Browns 2 picks.


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[Assistant] 35 and 62. Call me 216. Nobody's trying to hear that no more. See, if you don't really, you can't kick it. You can't bring your people in. We got them from all different walks of life. And that's why the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is a phenomenon. It's a natural force of power.


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[Assistant] They were fighting. People were dying just to get the right to vote.


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[Assistant] Back then it was just the boys. But now we have to tell our daughters if you get into a confrontation with the police, just...


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[Assistant] I get phone calls now all the time from friends who are asking how do they activate white lives.


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[Assistant] To, uh, change or be effective in awareness of what's happening.


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[Assistant] I think that this grew different because of, you know, just being on lockdown, being told what to do.


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[Assistant] I think y'all probably experienced that black life, you know, that we do every day, that the knee on the neck is also


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[Assistant] The pandemic locking down the whole America. You know, we can't breathe. We're done. You know what I'm saying? And that, that helplessness. You're a registered voter.


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[Assistant] The high five, the power one, you're now part of the team. You are going to be a, uh,


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[Assistant] Law changer, you get to vote for the President of the United States.


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[Assistant] You can keep that favorite person in there now or you can vote for somebody else.


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[Assistant] The younger generation are a part of the bigger heart. And I believe that this generation


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[Assistant] Well, it was so uneventful for me. I spent it in Buffalo on a World War II Navy ship with my son on his scouts overnight. Dang, bro. I have never seen beds stacked so high. There were four st- like, there was this much room between the beds. This much room. There was stacked four high.


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[Assistant] The cots we slept on were about this thick. So yeaah, Saturday night I did not get a lot of sleep.


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[Assistant] There was 45 grown men and their sons in this room. About the size of this room. 45. You can imagine the sleep apnea I heard Saturday night.


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[Assistant] And there is no, there is no outlets in the room. It's a World War II ship. There is no outlets, so all these guys are looking for their plugs, for their sleep apnea machines, and no outlets!


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[Assistant] And here's me on the ship. Man, I got no service down here!


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[Assistant] No one on the board that they felt was going to make the team. So not going to waste a pick. Kick can down the road and try again next year.


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[Assistant] Well, it depends on, uh, the department attorney they signed last year. If he's back healthy. Joaquin Grant. Yeaah. Joaquin Grant. See, I don't remember if it was a one year or two year deal now. I think it was- It was two.


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[Assistant] I mean, first thing I thought of when I saw him was red zone target. So if, you know, if you can line him up in the red zone and he's a


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[Assistant] Back corner fade route guy and go catch it at the high point. Yeaah. Sign me up. Why not? Because we saw DPJ struggle with it. What game was it where he struggled with that? That exact play. Back corner of the end zone and he didn't catch it at the high point. It was a fourth down play I think and he batted it down. So if he can do that, automatically he's going to get on the field.


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[Assistant] And I don't know if Tillman can do this or not, but I know one of the things that the Browns were focusing on was...


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[Assistant] When plays break down, when Deshaun starts to freelance, he needs receivers who can react. And they felt like the guys they had in the room last year were not great at freelancing. But if you can get the jump ball scenario, where...


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[Assistant] Tillman can just out jump the guy. He's just got big rear size and Deshaun can make a play. I don't see that as a bad thing. I don't have a problem with that.


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[Assistant] They certainly have not had a good track record on third round receivers.


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[Assistant] Because last year they were in a position where they held on to Schwartz, because there was no one obviously better, you know, like that's part of it, was there was no one clear cut better to hold on to, and now if you're building depth on this, and you're putting yourself in a position where you know Schwartz probably is not coming back,


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[Assistant] That's, I don't see that as a bad thing. I think competition in depth, there's nothing wrong with that.


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[Assistant] Enough depth up front to be able to roll guys in in waves and keep guys fresh. And I think that's what they're trying to do here. I'm not at all surprised that they drafted one of each.


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[Assistant] It was by far, especially in the middle. It was clearly one of the biggest weaknesses of the team. They addressed it in free agency. They've also addressed it in the draft. And again, every year since they've been here, they've taken a defensive tackle.


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[Assistant] Was it fourth round and higher? I think we said third or fourth round and higher. It's the only position that they've done that every single year.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brown's moved away a little bit from what they've done in the past.


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[Assistant] And I don't know necessarily that's a bad thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we talked about it at length. There's a lot of pressure to win. And I think that they went and got guys who...


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[Assistant] They may not be starters, but they're gonna be on the field. Tillman's gonna be on the field. We just talked about red zone situations, third down situations, points where he can help them. He has a unique skillset that can help them.


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[Assistant] They got a massive bag of meat in the middle now that they didn't have before that can help them. He can provide the depth. So they, I think they were very targeted in the positions and I know they didn't go after a linebacker.


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[Assistant] I was a little bit surprised. I think it's probably more of the nature of the way that the board fell than trying to dismiss that position, but it has been devalued in the NFL. Like linebacker is the running back of the defense. No question. And you're only playing two on the field. You still need them. I mean, you used to play four.


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[Assistant] If the meet up front can clear the way, and it's a big if, for guys like JOK, we saw something out of Taki when they moved in the middle, I'm curious to see how they use that information this year.


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[Assistant] You know, where is Taki gonna play? Just because he seemed to be a different player when he was in the middle but now that position theoretically isn't open.


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[Assistant] I went there. Did you really? I did. I did two years there, got a pre-journalism degree, everything transferred to Kent. If you want to be like me and make up things about Donovan Mitchell, go to LCC.


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[Assistant] And that's what I like about it. And I even say the same with receivers, what I said earlier. There's nothing wrong with competition. So bring all these guys in and the best guys get the spots. And I don't know that we necessarily had a lot of that last year, especially across the defensive line. I don't know that there was really a lot of camp battles and position spots and spots up for grabs.


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[Assistant] And you're gonna have that this year. And, you know, a guy like Isaiah Thomas, I don't know, is he a sure thing to make this team? No.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think they will. I have no doubt that they're gonna tell him. He's head coach of the defense, right? Yea, you have full control, full autonomy. Who you want is who we keep. Who you don't want is who goes. And I think for the most part, they do have the may the best man win mentality. Outside, listen, if you're a first round pick, obviously you've got a little bit longer of a leash. The fact that there is no incoming first round pick.


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[Assistant] You know, you're probably not going to have that. I do think it's going to be very much a competition and very much


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[Assistant] I'm kind of looking forward to it, especially at that defensive end, de-tackle spot. It's all sort of wide open. You would imagine Tomlinson's probably going to start, right? They gave him the big money deal. But outside of that, who's starting next to him? Can we say with a hundred percent clarity who's starting next to him?


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[Assistant] He's the backup. Like, if you can get a guy who, I mean, Chad Henney was a lot higher of a pick. I think he went, I think he was like a second rounder, actually. He was a second rounder. Okay.


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[Assistant] But it's the same type of concept. If you can, if you can draft your backup, develop him, he knows the system, you can plug him in if you need him, you're not spending a ton of money there.


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[Assistant] We've said it before, if Deshaun goes down, the season goes down with it. You don't want to invest a ton of money in the backup spot. But if you can have consistency in that spot, and he's a dual threat in the same boat as Deshaun, so he fits that role perfectly, if you can get


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[Assistant] Four, five, six years out of him where he knows the system inside and out. For the fifth round, I have no issue with this pick.


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[Assistant] Right. I don't think, I don't think. I think this is a camp battle. I think this is, I think this is a camp battle. I think Nick's on this team. I think Wipeler's probably on the practice squad. He's one of those guys. He's at depth. Uh, they did expand prac, you know, that you can hold more guys on the practice squad now. So we'll wait and see.


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[Assistant] I don't understand it. I don't either. And I, I mean, the Browns, I was with Phil Savage when Phil was here and Phil was in Columbus watching film with, uh, Trestle was the coach at the time. So it's not like, like they are there and they do scout them and they do watch film, but they don't know, but they don't take


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[Assistant] I was surprised that they didn't trade the pick. I was surprised. Just because I think there was a lot of interest in it. And for them to hold on to it, I don't know, I was a little surprised.


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[Assistant] I mean, I saw this as the Jack Honklin replacement. I think, I think Judd Wills is going to be included for a really long time. You do? Yeah, I do. And, you know, people, and I even said it last year, sort of Duke a knee jerk, I fell into G's camp of,


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[Assistant] Well, you know, as well as out of here next year and people who know offensive line play a lot more than me say his good plays are good. His bad plays are awful and they're more recognizable and I'm talking about Jed. Obviously we've all seen as bad.


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[Assistant] But he won't see the end of that. He won't. And that's the supply and demand of the position. And that's why if they're re-signing Conklin, Judd Wills ain't going anywhere just because of how much it costs to get these guys and how difficult it is.


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[Assistant] I don't know why they waited till deadline date, I don't know, but it was never a question. They were always going to pick it up.


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[Assistant] He's not a tactician. Well, you also mentioned some Hall of Famers there. I did, I did.


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[Assistant] That's what I wanted to ask you about, Kyle, was Tillman. Uh, obviously when you're starting out in the third round, it's going to limit what you can do.


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[Assistant] In a draft, but I just, my immediate thought was a big target in the red zone, a guy who can go high point the ball on fade routes and something that they really didn't have last year. Just your thoughts on Tillman and how he fits with the Browns and if he can get on the field right away.


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[Assistant] A lot of times those guys are going off advice from agents and it's really not more than that. They're listening to the people telling them what to do.


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[Assistant] I had a workout class at 9am this morning. I drank like a gallon of water by it.


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[Assistant] The talk all year long has been, Donovan's going to New York the first chance he gets. Like every time I talk to people around the league, it's, well, Donovan's going to New York.


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[Assistant] Donovan had told you that at his introductory press conference. He said, I thought I was going home. I thought I was going to New York. He went there last night. We didn't ask him about New York. He brought it up. He's the one who mentioned again and said, I'm, I'm over it. Well, are you really? Because you're the one who's still talking about it. I didn't bring it up to you. And then once he brought it up, that's when I said, okay, what'd you mean by that?


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[Assistant] Then we had a little bit more of a New York conversation after the game last night, but only because he went there first. So you have two years of control left on Donovan Mitchell and then a player option year.


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[Assistant] More than likely, he's not picking up the player option. These guys want to get back into free agency and get their next contract as soon as possible. You have two years left.


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[Assistant] Do you really think after all the assets that the Cavs gave up to acquire him that they're gonna run the risk of letting him leave and getting nothing in return for him? Right. No, you're gonna have to trade him with a year left on his contract unless you get a big extension out of him, unless you get a commitment out of him.


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[Assistant] I don't think that's happening. From everyone I've talked to, he wants to go to New York. Now does New York want him? I don't know. But that's where he wants to go, that's where he wants to play.


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[Assistant] I've talked to the Cavs in December and January about this. Right. I told them, I'm not writing it now, but like it's out there. So yeah, it's not anything.


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[Assistant] I don't want to get into it. It was pretty much off the record. But they, they are aware that I was talking about this in December and January and I told them I wasn't going to write it then.


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[Assistant] I, I've probably, yeaah, probably about 20-25%. Right.


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[Assistant] And we're two years out. I don't know how they make the numbers work. And if it's free agency, whatever, you know, that's not really my concern. Really. The only reason I was bringing it up was because, and I get it. I hear it all the time, like,


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[Assistant] Well, Cleveland media is trying to drive another playrouter. Why are you guys talking about this already? Guys, we're talking about this because the NBA is talking about this. I'm telling you what leagues and teams are saying, and the Cavs know about this, like they knew this when they traded for it.


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[Assistant] Going into the tax and, and it's, he said exactly what I was telling you guys three months ago. It's, it's not about going into the tax. It's about starting the repeat offender clock.


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[Assistant] And you have to be strategic about when you do that because those taxes are so much more punitive. So no, he made it sound like they're not going to be a tax paying team this year because they have to worry about three, four, five, six years out. Teams plan for this stuff all the time. That's why we're talking about it because that's what they're talking about.


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[Assistant] No, I don't, I don't know, but I would imagine that it's an ongoing, it's not like you pick up the phone. And by the way, his agent was Colin Sexton's agent, which is just another little funny twist in all of this. That's interesting. But it's not like you just pick up the phone at the end and go, okay, like what do you want to do? Like this is an ongoing.


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[Assistant] No, and that's why I want to go back to what you said. I don't know that Donovan wants sweeping changes. Like, you know, I don't, I don't want to put words in his mouth. I don't know that. I mean, listen, that's why I said before he was sent here. He didn't come here on his own. He was sent here in a trade.


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[Assistant] And he said he was excited that they didn't have to give up any of the big pieces to get them. They still had Jared Allen, they still had Darius Garland, they still had Evan Mobley. He was afraid they'd have to break off.


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[Assistant] one or two of those in or thrilled that they were a been a model teammate, he


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[Assistant] Takes accountability even at times more than he probably should shoulder, although I think he gets a lot of the blame for how they played in that Knicks series. And he took it. And he took it. Like he's been great. He's been great since day one and I don't want to misconstrue anything on that. He's been exactly what they want from him. I'm just telling you, he thought he was going home.


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[Assistant] They had an opportunity to draft or trade for a superstar with three years of control left and they were just felt like their contention window was opening. So they make the big swing and you, and you look at it, you go, we've got two years to convince him to stay before we have to make a decision. And that's still in play. They still have another year.


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[Assistant] Guys can change your mind. Kevin Love was adamant to me. When LeBron's gone, I'm out. And then he ended up staying inside another long-term deal. So guys are human. They change their minds on these things. I'm just telling you where we stand right now.


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[Assistant] You're going to have a five seed or an eight seed in the conference finals in the east and a six or a seven, a six or a seven in the west.


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[Assistant] That's what I wrote after Kobe spoke was, this one time I'll let you hang a banner for 50 wins because


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[Assistant] Uh, where this organization was two years ago and it is significant. It's a step, but that can never happen again because you can't tell us all year. The regular season doesn't matter and they tell you that by sitting other stars all year long. Every team sits their stars.


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[Assistant] You can't come back then at the end and celebrate the regular season.


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[Assistant] When they just, when you spent the last six months downgrading the regular season. You can't have it both ways.


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[Assistant] But, and I'm not ready to say what next year needs to look like because we still have a whole off season, a free agency and everything else and see who's healthy, what teams stay together, who disassembles.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I mean the bar's been raised now for the Cavs, and just 50 wins isn't good enough. Just making the playoffs isn't good enough. Not when you have the talent you've assembled. And I think it's just a little bit different, and you know, we talk about, and Kobe mentioned like the four, we have to rely on those four guys. Well when you look at like what Miami did,


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[Assistant] When, when they brought together their stars, they brought together three hall of fame talents. It wasn't just really good players or young players. It was guys in their seventh year who played seven years going into their eighth years.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Wade LeBron and Bosch. So you could be really top heavy with those three and you could get by with league minimum guys at the bottom of the roster because you knew you had three Hall of Famers to carry you.


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[Assistant] Cavs aren't in that position with these four. They're really good players.


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[Assistant] But they're not at the level of a big three type of what we're accustomed to seeing. They could grow into that, but you know, I mean, these guys are, Evan's going into year three, not year eight. Darius is going into year what, five, not year eight.


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[Assistant] Donovan is that guy, he should be in that guy, but even he's not in that mold of LeBron and Dwayne Wade. He's a really good player, but he's not greatest of all time conversation, at least not yet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, his, his stuff is not overpowering. He's not in that.


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[Assistant] As the guy, but he's off to a great start. You can't dispute with what he's doing. I'm just curious when teams get a little bit more tape on him and when they see.


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[Assistant] His sequences when they see his stuff, uh, he is going to get hit a little bit just because he's not overpowering and dominating. I don't think the lineup.


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[Assistant] You know, it's May 1st, it's frustrating to watch, but I don't think, I do think guys are going to come around as the weather warms, bat should heat up a little bit. They'll make some sort of move at the deadline. You know, we've talked about it before, Bull and I have gone around and around. I think they probably will add a right-handed bat at the deadline if Naylor can't figure it out by then. Naylor just looks terrible.


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[Assistant] And, and I think, I think he would tell you if he's being honest, well, it's April and we want to give him those opportunities right now.


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[Assistant] Yes and no, I mean, he hasn't shown anything, and, and, and Bull and I have argued about this at length. No, he hasn't shown any ability to hit lefties, but I'm not ready to give up on him, but I'm getting pretty darn close.


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[Assistant] Right. Right. And it's, and, and I thought Zach Maisel put this really well. I was talking to Zach about it. And Zach's like, once you close that door, you can't, you don't really reopen it. Once you declare.


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[Assistant] Yeah, once you declare you can't hit lefties, well now you've just declared, and you can't go back on that, and now it's a full-time platoon.


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[Assistant] And at the rate we're going, I think in July you'll see a trade for a right handed bat. I would hope so.


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[Assistant] No, and you got, and you got a series with Minnesota coming up right after the Yankees. So that should be an opportunity. But that can go either way. Right.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I'm not at all worried about Jose. I think his numbers at the end of the year would be right where we expect him to be. Especially with the new format and them taking away the shift.


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[Assistant] Well luckily this is a one year deal, one year and an option year. So it's not, if he is amiss, it's not the end of the world. It's not like you're locked in for five or six years.


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[Assistant] Early on in the marriage. Almost every single person I knew knew one of two things. One, they never should have done it in the first place. Wow. They felt that there were other voices in their ears that said they should do it or they felt forced into it.


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[Assistant] Or they felt pressured. That's the number one thing. And number two, almost every single person says within the first year. Yes. They knew, wow, I've made a mistake.


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[Assistant] You won, which that sucks. Interesting. And I think if the public is speaking into their personal lives, that's not okay either. And I think that they should look at the love that they have, getting the two of them before they allow any outside influence.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, alright, we're gonna have so much fun today. Later we will talk specifically with Mike about his career, uh, being a Buckeye, what it was like growing up with G. Bush. Yeah, yeah, so that's the way it's going.


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[Assistant] We'll get into that later, but he's gonna be here with us for the whole show, and he'll talk about the Cavs with us, the Guardians, the Browns, all of it. The draft is tomorrow. Tanner Bibby, who I keep wanting to call Bibby, got the call up. He's making the start for the Guardians who are playing like absolute ass right now. First we go to Mike. What's up, Mike?


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[Assistant] And my better podcast today talking, uh, Aaron Rogers talking NBA playoffs, Dalvin cook might get traded. Interesting. And Brandon Stokely is going to be on my show.


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[Assistant] If you bet every game I bet with baseball, you are doing really well right now. The Royals stink. They're the only team with a, well the A's are the only team with the worst record than the Royals. The Diamondbacks are one of the surprise great start teams. They got Zach Allen pitching today. You gotta bet it on the run line, otherwise you're too big a favorite.


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[Assistant] I mean, you can bet the Diamondbacks straight out to win, but they're like minus 250. But on the run line, it's only minus 120.


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[Assistant] Diamondbacks minus one and a half. They're gonna kill the Royals today. Zach Allen will give up zero or one runs. That's an easy one for you with the diamond. I like the Cubs today too. But the game was off the board this morning so I didn't pick it.


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[Assistant] In other words, he ain't got to lose like two runs every day. And they're horrible. Oh wow. One of the worst rosters I've ever seen in my life. This strategy might be fired. He up money. He might win money.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's get right into it, guys. Uh, game five.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's unfair to ask him about a Jimmy Butler like game, but does he? He needs to. Does he need to play kinda at that level? Yeaah. Yes.


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[Assistant] Right. And two times his point, like, he's right. Uh, DG set it up.


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[Assistant] For Donovan Mitchell to finish, he didn't. But overall from the series, neither one has played well enough.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a cash 22, cause with a Coro in there, yeaah, you're gonna get better defense, but now you have three guys in the starting lineup who can't hit an outside shot.


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[Assistant] Anything to trade really, but like how much better would this team be if they had Josh Hart right now?


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[Assistant] How'd you put it about Donovan Mitchell? It was a statement game? A legacy game?


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[Assistant] So, guys, I would say, like, you know, James Harden...


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[Assistant] I don't think he makes the Hall of Fame without the Super Bowl. Correct. He does not. I don't think he does. But basketball, more than even football.


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[Assistant] Your legacy is determined by the playoffs and the playoffs only. Correct. The regular season doesn't matter. You can put up huge numbers. That's why some person...


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[Assistant] Well, no, cause he, he doesn't, he can hurt, he can hurt his legacy more than help it tonight. Mitchell? Yea, because if they win this game and then lose game six,


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[Assistant] Uh, you gotta stop eating them hoagies. The only thing I've eaten today is saltine crackers. That's it. That's all you got. When you got the runs, that's all you supposed to eat. My God. Uh, but I got the Nixon 6. I just, I don't think the Cavs have played well enough that I'm going to believe they're going to win three in a row.


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[Assistant] I might let you borrow it. Mikey will look hilarious wearing that chain. It actually looks good on Titus. With you, that's gonna be rock.


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[Assistant] You know, in the general facility, I know not Cleveland, but you know, Brown's country, right? And I've been here long enough to know that usually the draft is like Christmas in Cleveland. It hasn't been the way the last couple of years, especially not this year because they don't have a pick for the third round. In fact, I saw this, this graphic, uh, where it was like,


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[Assistant] When there's only, doesn't mean you can't help yourself in the draft, obviously you can, but when your first pick is at 74 or whatever it is, it's hard to get overly excited about the draft.


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[Assistant] As for the Browns, like, I don't know, I mean, it's so hard to predict what they're gonna do, guys. Mike, when you look at the Browns, were you a huge Browns fan?


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[Assistant] Uhm, as we look at the other teams in the division real quick, and then we'll get to you Mike after this, but if the bet, I, I think, what's his name, Jamar Gibbs?


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[Assistant] I've only heard of Jayden Reed of that list. He's the only guy.


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[Assistant] And you could see some veterans get traded. We saw the Aaron Rodgers trade finally happen. DHOP. DHOP could get traded.


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[Assistant] It makes me wonder, are they concerned about his injury long term? Because he's so talented that I would pick up the 50 year option. Because if he stays healthy, he's going to probably be good.


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[Assistant] Mike, let's talk with you a little bit about your life and your career. First of all, do you miss playing at all?


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[Assistant] And we gotta ask Mike to talk about Peyton Manning a little bit for a second.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so, Tater Bybee is getting the call up today. The Guardians.


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[Assistant] Need all the help they can get right now. It's early so we don't want to panic, but they're playing like absolute trash right now. They suck at


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[Assistant] Yeah, everybody, like, who's having... nobody. The answer's nobody. Stephen Kwan. Miles Straw is really the only player on the entire roster doing better than we thought they would. Right. Yes.


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[Assistant] Mike, uh, obviously you played baseball. Are you into baseball at all now? I am not. Okay.


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[Assistant] There was a guy named Mike Squires for the White Sox in the early 80s. Wow. He was a lefty. I don't think he played it that much, but he played it a little bit. Yep.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I mean, it's a shame. When I was a kid, you know, I'm older than all you guys, but when I was a kid, growing up in New York City, everybody played baseball. It didn't matter what your background was, your race, your religion.


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[Assistant] Now give back to the guardians. I am excited to see Tanner Bybee pitch. They, you know, they called up Logan Allen. He pitched great in his first start and Bybee is going to pitch today. Yes. And so hopefully it'll do well. But what are your expectations for him in his debut? I think he got, you know, four strikeouts.


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[Assistant] Wow. They don't have any good pitchers. I guess their best pitcher is Marquez, who's pitching today. He's coming off the injured list.


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[Assistant] 25 and 85. I still think they're gonna be fine, but...


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[Assistant] I mean, they hit great last year. It's only been a few weeks. You know, and they started off fine. It's just now they're really slumping. Nailer's been a disaster.


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[Assistant] The best player on my team. Okay. The dad told me, uh, he's gonna miss a bunch of games because he's playing lacrosse also. Oh. And I'm like...


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[Assistant] My kids got control really hard. He probably throws the ball hard in any other kid. This is a 10 year old. 10 years old. Okay.


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[Assistant] Wow. What's they name? Dylan and Tyler. They went with completely opposite names.


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[Assistant] And Dustin told me he was gonna go, he was probably gonna go to Penn State. Yup. And then Tressle called him.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, we, uh, we had a couple picks that, uh, we had to pay attention to and, uh,


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[Assistant] Couple hours, you know, just watching 259 selections from all 32 teams, but it was, it's a blast and we love it every year. So I hope you guys enjoyed it as well.


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[Assistant] Two, three round mocks. So, you know, you'll hop on one of these draft simulators and you can like pick a team and do seven round mocks. So you do seven round scenarios for teams trying to get to know


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[Assistant] Uh, just how deep the needs go and kind of get an idea for all the different combinations if you prioritize position or X or Y early on. But as far as actually projecting the first or every pick, it was three rounds and, and I didn't have the stomach to do the seven rounders like some of the guys do.


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[Assistant] Uh, the vast majority of talent that went, uh, was the talent that I would have expected to go. I think on, on Joe Marino and I for Lockdown NFL scouting, uh, we did a final predictive board and 84 of our 100 actually went in the top 100. So I would say that that's relatively,


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[Assistant] I don't want to say chalk, but, uh, a lot of what you expected as far as the talent itself. Now Cleveland was one of the beneficiaries.


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[Assistant] Uh, of a couple of players that, that did end up sliding a little bit with Syaki Aika who fell all the way to 98.


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[Assistant] Uh, Luke whippler from Ohio state was another one that we thought had a pretty good chance to be a day two selection as an early entry.


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[Assistant] Uh, have to just trust whatever caused that slide. There was something legitimate because all 32 teams continued to pass.


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[Assistant] Man, I was really surprised how many, you know, and it's, Cleveland's included in this, but it's not a big picture.


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[Assistant] Uh, early round discussion, but just how many quarterbacks were drafted. I think a lot of these teams saw, uh, Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] Mr. Irrelevant and said, hey, why don't we roll the dice and draft some guy that has friend or lower level tiers, but I actually think that the quarterback that


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[Assistant] I got a chance to meet him over the summer last year and really enjoyed his leadership style and talking about the game with him. So I think he's a really nice developmental type for Cleveland, especially to play behind Deshaun Watson with some of the parallels in their athleticism and ability to make things happen on the move. So.


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[Assistant] Just the, the raw number of quarterbacks that I never would have guessed were...


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[Assistant] Take a developmental quarterback early while there were still some really good scheme specific type of talent or developmental type talent at other positions that maybe had a more statistically likely probability of you hitting on it and getting a nice player that can contribute for your team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I'm just kind of pulling up my, my sheet here to look. I think that the tone was set really early with Jack Campbell, which last time was on with you guys. I gave you the idea to maybe go up and trade for Jack Campbell and sorry for that advice because he went at 18. Right.


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[Assistant] But then after that you had to wait till 67 where, where Drew Sanders was the next one off the board. So I think that gap, that separation between a guy that you felt like could


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[Assistant] Play and deconstruct blocks, but also defend the run and rush the pass for a little bit and in Jack Campbell.


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[Assistant] Versus all these other players that were more incomplete or skill specific type players.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it kind of bit Cleveland a little bit that the run for linebackers happened so late, uh, where these guys kind of came off hot and heavy. You had five linebackers go between 67 and 91. And if Cleveland, obviously they draft Cedric Tillman there in that stretch of picks and.


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[Assistant] I think that's a good selection. I think that who's probably a guy who I would have expected would have been gone a little bit earlier towards the back end of the second round.


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[Assistant] Once the run kind of happened, man, don't force it. There's other personnel opportunities for you that are going to be coming after June 1st when some of these guys get cut or.


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[Assistant] guys if they were going to contribute pretty early on, they all went in that stretch and picks. And I actually liked the player that Cleveland got in Cedric Tillman a bit more than the vast majority of those guys.


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[Assistant] I think he can, I think he's more dynamic than David Bell, and I like David Bell coming out of Purdue quite a bit, who they got last year.


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[Assistant] Tillman I thought was the better Tennessee wide receiver. I think he's more well-rounded. Uh, I think he's more physical than Jalen Hyatt. I think Jalen Hyatt's a little bit more of a one-dimensional vertical down the field nine ball type of player.


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[Assistant] A couple of the guys that ended up going in front of him and Nathaniel Dell and Rashi Rice and Jayden Reed.


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[Assistant] Jonathan Mingo, those guys were, you know, round two selections. They were all players who had a chance to go down to the senior bowl and you get an extra data point for them to look at there versus, uh, Tillman being somebody who was kind of off the beaten path this year when Tennessee's offense exploded.


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[Assistant] I think this is a potentially a really nice kind of value pick for Cleveland. And I think Cleveland has a number of guys that can be candidates in that regard, but Tillman was a player I liked quite a bit.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so I, you know, the Dewan Jones, Ice McGuire, Doreen Thompson Robinson, Cameron Mitchell, Luke Wepler stretch is a really good day three haul. Uh, so, so I'd give their day three picks an A as far as the big picture while acknowledging you don't have a one, you don't have a two.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's a class for me that's probably a solid B+, but it's hard to buy all the way in just because of the lack of...