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[Assistant] Because it's only two weeks now until we move to our new house.


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[Assistant] I can't believe that it's soon here, you know. And of course when you move to a new home, it's a lot of work with that.


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[Assistant] You know, move in as fast as possible and get ready with everything, cause we have a lot to do.


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[Assistant] The most intense May in my whole life, but it's also gonna be so much fun. Especially now when we know that we are free to, to focus on moving now. We don't have a lot of other things that we have to do. We can, yeaah, we can focus on this.


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[Assistant] Get time every week for editing and uploading a video. I will try my best. So I guess my videos in May is gonna be all about moving to our new house.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, it's like one of the biggest thing that's ever happened to us. To move into our dream house, so. So I would just love to share the journey with you.


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[Assistant] Check on my birch sap. I have been drinking birch sap a lot now during these three last days. So the last thing I do every evening now before I go in is to empty the bottles of birch sap and change into new bottles. So I have some


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[Assistant] Very, very little emotional intelligence to use today's terms.


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[Assistant] I don't think Donald Trump spent one minute worrying about debt. If he introduced doubt into his life, the whole, the whole thing would unravel.


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[Assistant] Donald Trump yelled at his classmates, he pushed them around, he even used a broomstick as a weapon against classmates who didn't listen to him when he told them what to do.


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[Assistant] The old Commodore Hotel was in such sorry shape that it had boarded up windows, it had rodents all over the place. It was, uh, one of the markers of New York's sorry decline.


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[Assistant] He got it done. He got it done by bullying his way through, by pretending to have more backers than he really had, by pretending that he was actually putting large sums of money into it when he really wasn't.


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[Assistant] When things went well, he became enormously jealous of the attention she got. And when things went poorly, he became extremely angry and insulting and vindictive toward her.


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[Assistant] Trump saw this classic tabloid story. He saw his role and his position instinctively. He knew in his heart that those guys were bad.


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[Assistant] Ratchets up the anger. He ratchets up the insults.


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[Assistant] Supportive housing actually saves taxpayers money every year because it costs more to have people on the streets.


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[Assistant] They showed about six million dollars in construction, uh, funds had been kept secret.


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[Assistant] They were extorting me saying we will kill these projects unless you agree to this kickback scheme.


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[Assistant] When costs are inflated, the number of housing units actually produced decreases, and we are building less housing.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. We ended up really, really hurting the people we serve and betraying their trust.


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[Assistant] New York City suddenly comes apart. The city for the first time was losing population as well as jobs and losing its economic base.


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[Assistant] What he learned from Roy Cohn was never apologize, always attack, attack the character of your opponents, that they're somehow malicious, that they're somehow doing the devil's deed here, and let the public know that. That was Roy Cohn.


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[Assistant] You know, would do that with programs that, that, you know, are designed to, uh, to serve folks in need.


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[Assistant] You know, in relatively few, you know, scandalous incidents.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of financial risk to a lot of folks, uhm, you know, for playing that game.


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[Assistant] A high octane mix of the stuff that sells newspapers.


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[Assistant] Amateur video captured the frantic scene as paramedics desperately tried to save the lives of officers Wenzhen Liu and Rafael Ramos.


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[Assistant] Something like, you know, young Mr. Biden goes to Washington. That's when I spent a good bit of time with Joe.


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[Assistant] You do? Yeah, I'm not using them. You should be. What's this number on here? That's the expiration date. These things expire? Yes. Uh, whoops. Florida, how many did you let expire? Uhhh.


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[Assistant] Eight. Only eight. Hundred. Eight hundred still isn't that big. Thousand. Eight thousand? Oh no. Eight hundred thousand. Jesus Christ.


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[Assistant] Someone should help. I just had the Department of Transportation send a tweet saying they're ready to help. How does that help? It doesn't. But it makes it look like I tried. You guys talk about the traffic from the weather? Who are you? I'm Eastern Washington.


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[Assistant] I don't get to come out much since Seattle dominates the whole state. How are you here now? We had to close the mountain pass between the east and the west sides of the state due to weather.


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[Assistant] I'm a free man. Hey, we just cleared up the closures. Maybe I'll see you guys next year. Oh look, the traffic got cleared up. Whoa, how long were they there for? Uh, like 27 hours.


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[Assistant] Well, this does not mark the beginning of a better week for Senator Joseph Biden. Today, he's having to defend what he has said in public about his record at law school and what the record really shows.


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[Assistant] Spent much of the day discussing these comments he made to a newspaper reporter about Senator Barack Obama.


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[Assistant] Every Sunday he would show up at Marble Collegiate Church to go to Norman Vincent Peale's services.


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[Assistant] I think part of it was this positive message that Peel had, that you could achieve anything you wanted. There was nothing that could stop you.


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[Assistant] An optimist sometimes is so optimistic that they don't want to hear anything that even if they're heading right off a cliff, they might not want to hear the news.


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[Assistant] He's always saw himself as a potential TV or entertainment star. That's another part of his personality is he likes to be an entertainer.


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[Assistant] First plush, maybe he really hates it and he's annoyed by the Mueller investigation or the media attacks or this or that. But when you look at it further, he sort of enjoys the jousting, he enjoys the fighting.


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[Assistant] As the country deals with this worst pandemic, they're seeing in a man that doesn't see any problems. He always sees a rosy bright future.


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[Assistant] We're trying our best to not, like, have it come in here. We use disinfecting wipes to wipe down the nods, the light switches, and a lot of things that we touch a lot. I don't like cleaning, but, I mean, it's a have to do thing, really.


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[Assistant] I live in Charlie with my mom, my sister Dior. There's not enough room in the house for my brother to stay, so he lives with my grandparents, and he comes down to visit as much as he can.


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[Assistant] This is my first time living in a trailer. The walls, like, you can, it's really thin, and so you can, like, hear a lot of things. The reason we moved in a trailer is because it's, like, something that she can afford.


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[Assistant] Because, when she'd stand, or something, like her feet would get swollen.


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[Assistant] My mom gets food stamps. I would praise the rent. That helps us out a lot because she really has to pay like one or two bills. So she has other money to buy, like, pay for other things. Like clothes, shoes, and that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] She works at a place called Salvation Army. They give out like free food, free clothes to other people.


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[Assistant] My mom stretches the money that she gets, like to last out the whole month, but some things I can't get that I want.


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[Assistant] The grocery stores are like running out of supplies and stuff. Like, uhm, toilet paper, bread, meats, a few things.


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[Assistant] They have to do something called curbside pickup. Okay, we have Evner and Edinger right here.


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[Assistant] If I had my choice, I probably wouldn't want my mom working. Because there's still any chance of her getting sick from contact with other people, even their cars, like they could have coughed or something and it kind of got in the car. I don't know, there's still any chance that could, that she could still get the virus.


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[Assistant] I haven't done schoolwork yet. My mom got a message by someone. She works at the school.


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[Assistant] What's important about school is like that I have support by my teachers, counseling, and some of my friends. Hey, really? One of the main teachers that helped me a lot was Mrs. Matters, and I haven't seen her since lockdown. But I know that she does have cancer, which really worries me.


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[Assistant] The loss of her is like really big to me and like I don't think anyone else can take her spot.


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[Assistant] She was there for me when I needed her. She taught me how to read. Like, she'd just write down my morning by just, like, simplest thing by, like, smiling. I mean, saying good morning.


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[Assistant] What I miss most about school is spending time with my friends, uhm, talking to them, being able to communicate. Some classes where I had like a lot of friends in, like gym class or recess, stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Because the virus don't do a lot of contact with other people as a family.


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[Assistant] And, like, I usually like to, like, go outside and play basketball. But no, I can't really do that because of the virus. You're not supposed to be in a group with a lot of people.


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[Assistant] Being online, I can still talk to people and like communicate with them, but I'd much rather like communicating with them in person.


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[Assistant] Now, now, now that I'm like, I'm older and I have to be to your drill model.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's a lot of pressure on me, but I try to do my best.


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[Assistant] If I feel sad or something, I have a counselor to talk to. I told my mom that I needed one because there aren't as much people that my skin color down here. I just keep building up stuff that I really want to talk about.


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[Assistant] Jesse is my counselor. Since this virus and stuff hit, uhm, I haven't seen him much, maybe around like once a month.


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[Assistant] If I feel sad or something, and I express to my mom, that'll make her feel sad. And so I just would keep it to myself. If my anger keeps building up.


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[Assistant] I could get mad and like do something that wouldn't be good or do something that'd get me in trouble instead of talking to somebody and like releasing all the anger and stress and just like, it's like, it's pretty much like, gone.


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[Assistant] I think being black could affect my opportunities in the future. Like, if I want to get a job, and it's a white person that don't want black people, they just would turn me down.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I think it could affect my opportunities in the future.


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[Assistant] When I get older, I wouldn't want to live here. I want to get a good stable job. I want to live somewhere where there's beach.


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[Assistant] She still has not gotten back on her feet with, uhm, a job, which, uhm,


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[Assistant] Through her work, I've watched her be an advocate for people who don't have voices.


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[Assistant] Racism and being black at a very young age


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[Assistant] In third grade, I remember bringing, uhm, a baby alive doll to school for, uhm, show and tell. And the baby doll was Caucasian.


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[Assistant] And I was a little black, you know, little African American kid.


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[Assistant] Different color than you, like you're not Caucasian, like you need a, uhm, African American doll.


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[Assistant] And that's like when I became aware of the difference in skin tones and how people could treat you.


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[Assistant] Because I'm a female, maybe I'm not as, I don't feel as scared or threatened, but I think the males have it way, way, way harder than black females.


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[Assistant] Sometimes it may look like that, cause sometimes people can just give up and accept it, but I don't think nobody would choose to be born.


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[Assistant] Food pantries are finding new ways to keep our community safe while providing their much needed services. Many Americans face the new challenge of putting food on the table.


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[Assistant] It is. Darius Victor's coming on. He was the offensive player of the year last year. He squats like Nick Chubb and he was listed and Boogie, you know Darius well, so I'm going to tell you what he's listed at. We'll see when he comes in. His combine measurements, five, seven and a quarter, 228. Wow.


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[Assistant] It is Bull's bet of the day and speaking of people being red hot, Bull was red hot, but he lost yesterday his first loss in his last five bets, but he is still 19 and nine now in baseball bets on the season. He's dipping back into the baseball pool and as always his bet of the day is brought to us by.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's, there's some units and some, uh, I don't wanna put this.


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[Assistant] Bull picks some games that would not have the highest of payouts, put it that way. He's a very safe gambler.


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[Assistant] It's not that bad. But hey, today he's going with the plus. Today he's going with a legit underdog on the money line to outright win.


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[Assistant] Of those seven, which rookie has the biggest year one impact?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm glad you guys brought up Tilman because I had a point to make on Tilman if no one else did. At this point,


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[Assistant] And this thi- this is something I think we're not overlooking.


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[Assistant] But we're gonna have to see how it plays out. Is Deshaun Watson still developing chemistry with all his receivers? I know he was here last year, he's worked with Cooper, he worked with DPJ, Elijah Moore they brought in, Marquis Goodwin, you know, David Bell's been in the mix. I don't think he has a...


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[Assistant] A dynamite connection with anyone in particular yet. And if he develops it with Tillman right off the bat, some guys just kind of have that inherent connection. You see in basketball, you know, sometimes a big in a guard, they just, they read off each other. They play the pick and roll perfectly. You see a new quarterback community as a safety blanket. Tillman's a guy with the size and athletic ability to potentially, and I'm not saying he will be, but potentially


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[Assistant] So while he continues to develop his connections with more DPJ, Cooper, all those guys,


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[Assistant] It wouldn't shock me to see Tillman come in if he has that immediate connection. Get in the lineup, break that two, three deep receiver set earlier than expected. And as Jason alluded to what Boogie said, he's got the athletic ability to make contested catches in the red zone, which is something they lacked last season.


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[Assistant] Two things to preface. One, we know this is way too early.


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[Assistant] Way too early. A lot's gonna change between now and when the Browns have to cut their roster down to 53 spots.


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[Assistant] The premise of this is looking at some of the positions as G alluded to, that they have more numbers than they can possibly keep. And we're going to pick and choose who we think at the end of the day will end up being on that week one 53 man roster and who will not be. So we have almost 20 of these. Uh, Boogie, it's your first time here. Boogie is playing the role of Tyvis.


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[Assistant] If you think he will make the week one roster, you're gonna give me the happy face. If you think he will not make the week one roster, you're gonna give me the happy face.


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[Assistant] So we're going to start with the Browns wide receiver room, where they have 13 receivers currently under contract. We don't know how many they will keep, but Steve, you can take the first one. We will go down the line in order. Jakim Grant, will he be on the Browns week one roster? Yes or no.


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[Assistant] And we have a split decision. Jason says no, three yeses. Jason, why no?


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[Assistant] Before we move on, uh, I want to just remind everybody a week from today is our one year anniversary show. We are doing the best of the year awards and I may have had to make an extra submission for worst take of the year if G had thrown the happy face. G, you saved yourself. You are not on the worst take. You're on for a different take, but it's okay.


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[Assistant] Underwhelming as a rookie, showed a little bit of promise, but is anyone ready to give up on him?


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[Assistant] We got one more receiver. Anyone think Marquise Goodwin, who they signed this offseason, will not be on the 53 Man Rocks.


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[Assistant] We got, yeah, we got four more slides to get to. They don't have five, but let's go to the offensive line here. Couple more numbers than can be held. Let's start with Drew Forbes, a guy who has a little versatility, interior offensive line. Is he on the 53 man roster?


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[Assistant] You just alluded to him, Jason. They signed him because of his relationship with Bill Callahan. He has the interior offensive line versatility.


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[Assistant] I see a no from Jason, I see a no from G, I see a yes from Boogie. Boogie, why, uh, why the yes?


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[Assistant] Alright, we're going to the quarterback room. They just drafted Doreen Thompson Robinson.


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[Assistant] DTR, they have four on the roster now. Does that spell the end for Kellen Maughan?


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[Assistant] And then, I didn't have Josh Dobbs on my initial list, but then Bull made a good point, that if DTR beats out Dobbs for the number two spot,


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[Assistant] Would you keep a guy you're paying two and a half million for as your QB3? So do you think DTR can beat us out for QB2?


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[Assistant] Uh, we're moving on to maybe the most crowded of all the rooms, the defensive tackle room, the one boogie knows best inside and out as a defensive tackle himself. They have a lot of guys and there are some on this list who certainly will not be here come week one.


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[Assistant] So let's start with Tristan Hill, a guy they signed this offseason, a former second round pick of the Cowboys, has been injured, but talented. Will Tristan Hill be on the week one roster, or is he just a camp body?


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[Assistant] G says he gone, and Boogie is back. G, you're the only one that says he's gone. No, hold on.


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[Assistant] We've got two more defensive tackles. Boogie mentioned them earlier. Mo Hurst. Yes or no?


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[Assistant] And then we got mix of positions. We have one slide left, five to get to, then we'll transition to some calves. These are not in order, these are just a mix collection. Let's start with Tony Fields, the linebacker. Is he on the right? What?


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[Assistant] Does he end up beating out, and I forget who it was, I'll be honest. Does he end up beating out Cory Bjorkes?


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[Assistant] His name's Joseph Carlton is the punter they signed yesterday, by the way. Just throwing it out there. Okay, two more. Isaiah Thomas. This is a tough one. This is a tough one.


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[Assistant] And last but not least, Harrison Bryant.


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[Assistant] If you're keeping seven receivers, you can't keep three titans. No, no, no, no. Just keep that in mind as you guys do your numbers here.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, Boogie, I will save that clip for you. We will go back to it. Just want to let you know something about G. Bush. Before the season last year, G. Bush predicted


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[Assistant] Essentially, the Browns have scored 98 touchdowns. He's like, Nick Chubb's gonna have 17, Cream Hunt's gonna have 10, Cooper's gonna have 12, DPJ's getting 8.


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[Assistant] It is officially 12 o'clock, which means it is time for the lunch hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. And as always, the lunch hour of UCSS is brought to us by colleague racing, the official NASCAR team.


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[Assistant] of Northeast Ohio. We spent the first hour talking Browns. We're gonna pivot here and talk a little Cavs. We are now five days out.


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[Assistant] From the end of the season, and I'm curious guys what you think on this. When we look back at the 2022-2023 season in totality, maybe two years down the road, three years, four years, are we gonna look at this season as a


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[Assistant] It was a fun young group that went through some growing pains. Are we gonna look at it and say, my goodness, that was a disappointment.


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[Assistant] And actually Darius, walk me through this play real quick. This is, this is boogie in practice. Wow.


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[Assistant] Darius, when we were setting this up, the USFL sent me a couple of links to do some research on you and it said you squat 650 pounds.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like you've beat the gym? Like have you officially, if you're too strong, your thighs are too big, have you just beat the gym? Is that how it feels?


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[Assistant] What NFL backs do you kind of, not necessarily monitor your game method, what do you do to enjoy watching?


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[Assistant] Then you're sticking around for final takes. So what final takes are is each person gets 60 seconds. One on one with the camera.


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[Assistant] Where should we start? Where would you like to start? We got finishing school here.


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[Assistant] Dealing with coronavirus and all the things that's done in our life.


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[Assistant] It was long. Man, draft weekend, that'd be, I mean, when you rehash the picks so many times, it's just like...


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[Assistant] I know. So much you can say about these. Yeaah, it's just like, I guess.


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[Assistant] We salute. That was a whole nother. I always tell people nowadays you soft. I'm soft.


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[Assistant] I mean, just, just look at the, like, even when I look at, even on the other side, I look at, I watched a documentary about, uhm, the biggest warship ever for the Japanese Navy.


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[Assistant] And how they basically signed up to go to their deaths. Like they knew they would not win and, and just how hard they just fought. It's just.


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[Assistant] And this P.A.S.A. was brought to you by the truth. In about five years, they're gonna strick all of that from the record. And we never had World War II. It was just a skirmish. And it was a skirmish. It was a skirmish. And it was a dust-up between two friends.


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[Assistant] But he's winning the Super Bowl on May 1st. And you know, Jay, the crazy thing about it is they don't even say anything remotely non-positive. Rarely, dude. Rarely. Like, it's about, they'll give you a back story. If they're not that good, they'll give you a back story.


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[Assistant] If you are semi-good, they won't give you too much of backstory, they'll just show you highlights. If you don't have a good backstory and you don't have highlights, they'll just say that this is a great upside pick. So traditionally, everybody that walks across that stage, you never hear Kyper and McShea or the guys say,


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[Assistant] I don't know what the hell the titans were doing here.


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[Assistant] You know, when I looked at the linebackers that they had in the draft, I knew this was a...


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[Assistant] A draft where you couldn't find, there wasn't very many impact linebackers or three down linebackers. I was a little surprised that they didn't take a flyer on somebody.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I thought that they would, at least the fourth and sixth rounds, uhm, or the seventh round, take a look at, uh, you know, a linebacker. And then they traded the seventh round pick, or excuse me, traded the, uhm, seventh round pick this year for a sixth round pick, like, next year with the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Because now, we had the numbers, and this is kind of off the topic, but there was a severe numbers game. Like, you mentioned at Receiver. At Receiver, when you look at who's on the roster, there are guys that you know that are going to have to have to fight.


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[Assistant] To, to, to make this roster. There's 12, 13 receivers today on that roster.


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[Assistant] Imagine he's back as the punt returner. Okay. So off the top of my head, you just, you just got Tillman, right? Well, you got, I'm starting at the top.


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[Assistant] I think also that means Demetrius Felton. Uhm, you were a punt returner. You were a running back. You did have some, I think Demetrius Felton is a casualty. I think. I'm leaving out some names too. Schwartz is a casualty. Uhm, there's a lot of, uh, there's a, wait, what's the, uh, is Daylon Baldwin on this team?


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[Assistant] He's on IR, so he won't count towards anything.


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[Assistant] I see what they was going for. Uhm, I was hot because Jalen Hyde was sitting right there. And they jumped up and grabbed him. One pick ahead of him. One pick. I would have preferred, I would have preferred to speak God, uhm, myself.


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[Assistant] Now here's the problem I always got people, you know, when you talk to people, and everybody's a draft expert, right? Y'all ain't watch no games all year. They ain't watch nothing. The draft experts and everybody come out, especially for the Browns.


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[Assistant] And I know what it is. We all are to a certain extent Kool-Aid drinkers when there's guys on the board that we all like or there's guys that you may have wanted.


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[Assistant] But I've heard some crazy things like, oh, this guy was actually the best receiver. I had him on my board at number two and I'm like, stop.


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[Assistant] The top of his routes too much, but he is a long strider. He is 6'3". Uhm, the Browns don't have.


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[Assistant] From a size standpoint, he could be a red zone target. I think he's, I think he's of the mold of a DPJ, but a little bit bigger. I don't have a problem with the pick. Like you said, at the end of the day, it's a third round pick. Um, I can't give A's and all this other stuff because I think when you started the third round, you're taking this class pass, fail.


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[Assistant] It's just, you know, you're just diversifying the skill sets you got in the room.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe, you know, you could go, you know, with three wide receiver sets. You can go with a big, big wide receivers. You can put them in the game, DPJ.


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[Assistant] You just basically at this point, you're just searching for a few things you like, a couple of characteristics. If you can get somebody that got a characteristic that you lack, you go take it and you say, okay, well, we'll see if we can develop it and then we'll figure it out from there. But you know, it's not like these are first round picks and these guys aren't going to.


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[Assistant] If we countin' on these dudes to play significant minutes, we in trouble. Because...


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[Assistant] Man, if they don't, if they have a couple injuries and guys get injured again,


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[Assistant] And plus, all those guys have been injured. Like, they've been, it's not like J.O.K. has been, not been an injury opponent. It's not, it, Phillips has been injured his whole career. Anthony Walker has been injured a couple years, and like, there's not like these guys.


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[Assistant] Are like, those were aberrations, like those were legit things that you could say about it.


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[Assistant] I think it's a product of, I think it's a product of how your scheme and how terrible you were up front. So like linebackers are not supposed to be dealing with offensive linemen like every single play. Our defensive line was so bad.


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[Assistant] Now you got undersized guys that are either getting hands put on them, or always in the fray, or think about it, even if you're a linebacker, you're taking, you, here's how you know.


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[Assistant] The linebackers was taking a beating. Look at your top two tacklers.


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[Assistant] Your tacklers are safeties. That means...


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[Assistant] That's amazing. It's amazing. Uh, and plus, let's talk about the Eagles a little bit. These dudes, I mean, they have Brandon Graham.


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[Assistant] They drafted Jordan Davis last year, who's the biggest dude I've ever seen. Uh, then they still got Fletcher Cox, Joshua. That's their first round, right? That's their first wave. They got Hassan Reddick.


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[Assistant] Didn't they draft, that's the outside linebacker, he's more of a, you know, stand up rush guy. Nolan Smith, that they just took, he runs a 4-3. He's like 2-4, 2-50. Jalen Carter, after, he was supposed to be the number one pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] That's as good as it gets. Like, you not really run, like, I commend them because they could have just stood back and just said, we cool, let's tweak some stuff here and we'll get back to the draft, we'll get back to, uh, we'll get back to the Super Bowl because, you know, we, we, we got it, we got our quarterback, that's all we need. These dudes just, just kept


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[Assistant] Really, really woeful. Can't move him. Uhm, you put him and Thomas in the game, I feel like...


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[Assistant] You gotta, you're not gonna be able to just have guys.


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[Assistant] Uh, and J.O.K. can get back in the backfield and get to tackling people instead of being in the third level of the secondary. So I think he's a big dude. He's a traditional nose tackle.


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[Assistant] Not because he has a bunch of plethora of moves, it's because...


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[Assistant] He could, he could collapse the pocket. He just bull rush. Yeah, his bull rush is, is, is dominant. So that's a great shot. Now look at that leverage. Now think about it. Look how close his knee is to that ground. He's low center of gravity, right? He's very low. You cannot move a guy. And the great thing about him is he got over 30 quarterback pressures.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the last two seasons, uh, when he was playing for Baylor. He was transferred from LSU. Uhm, so he played on that national championship team. So he's, he has a good pedigree. He's strong. He's strong as an ox, got a bull rush. He's very stout on the run. Uhm, somebody said, well, you telling me that he's Danny Shelton.


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[Assistant] I said well no, not really necessarily. I said because Danny Shelton was the top 20 pick. You got this dude at pick number 98.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like we said, Pick 98, you just looking to hit. If you can get one or two downs from this dude.


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[Assistant] He's going to play. One or two, one or two downs and then get them out because it's, you know, it's a no game or a one yard game and bring in some other guys to rest the passer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think guys would they would they admit it on a sneak tip on a sneak. I think they admit it. We're wrong.


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[Assistant] We, we, we did not have the right philosophy. It's a pivot. We, we, they turned over, uh, they tried to turn over.


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[Assistant] Multiple position rooms. When you look at the defense attacker room, they threw so many guys in there.


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[Assistant] Because they said these aren't the body types, these aren't the necessarily skill sets that we want. And when you draft that many receivers, what you're telling yourself is, hey guys, look, we missed on those guys, we need to do something to, to infuse some other stuff. Cause we've had back to back classes that's been a little bit of sub part. And I think,


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[Assistant] They're admitting to people in their moves and their actions that yes, we were a little, we were wrong going a lot of these guys. We're looking to get some guys in here with a different philosophy.


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[Assistant] Uh, so shout out to the locked on Browns podcast, your team every single day. So we featured Isaiah Maguire as part of some of the defensive ends that might be available with the Browns. You had them on your list.


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[Assistant] He had the number nine, so he's a protocol size, six foot four, six five, range 270, 272, 274. Uhm, the thing about him is,


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[Assistant] I think he's going to be one of those guys that is really good at stopping the run.


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[Assistant] You know, he, he's kinda in a way like Jadavia Clowney, he's not as athletic anywhere near as athletic. He's long, right? Yeaah, more of a 4-7 guy. But he has a really good upper body punch. Like, when he punches, he can separate. I think he's gonna be good in a run. Uh, his bull rush is his best move.


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[Assistant] Uhm, his bull rush and his motor is actually his best two attributes. So anytime that you don't have


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[Assistant] Any other mix up moves and you don't have the level of bend in your knees to run the hoop and you know, really get low to the ground, low centrifugal force to get to the quarterback. You're going to slip to the fourth round, but there's one thing that he really does very well and that's motor.


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[Assistant] He's very strong. He can disengage. Uh, he's good, good, good mobility in the box from left to right. He's not going to be a huge pass rusher. Uh, I think he only had five or six axes his second year. Um, uh, wild, wild starter.


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[Assistant] You know, when you can get a guy like this who can help and contribute, I think you build the depth. Now you say, okay, I got, uh, you know, I got Isaiah Thomas, right? I got Alex Wright. I got, uh, Isaiah McGuire. You have oboe out there. So you got now those young guys that are kind of jockeying for that position.


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[Assistant] Cause you want to spell Miles Garrett too. Miles Garrett. You want to get him off the field, so.


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[Assistant] Now you say, okay, well, let me see what Alex Wright can do. I want to see if Isaiah Thomas is going to be that type of position. And this guy is in the mix. He's a guy that I think you contribute today, if you're just using him as a pass rusher. So I love the pick. It's another depth pick.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and now you kind of see, once again, you don't have Chase Winovich's out there, uh, just moving around, just doing nothing. You're starting to get a little more depth, and so I like to...


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[Assistant] I think they're finally set up to kind of do that. Before, you saw a lot, what you would see was traditionally with the Browns because they were drafting people to help them out. And they had people that they drafted that they thought was going to play very pivotal roles with the organization.


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[Assistant] Right away, so you already got a guy slotted. Then what happens if he goes out and pulls a hamstring, tweaks this, tweaks this? He misses the whole training camp. Now he's behind an eight ball, he's out of shape, he really doesn't know the playbook, and now you're gonna have to use the regular season to ramp him up. Now, I can say, look,


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[Assistant] Isaiah Thomas, Alex Wright, I think I like Alex Wright, but I might not. You might not be better than McGuire. We're going to figure out today. So now you got guys who know they can't miss practice.


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[Assistant] You got guys who know they have to show up to OTAs because now there's competition where, look,


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[Assistant] Jordan Elliott, at one point in time, was given the de-starting defensive tackle role. They got Hill, they got Hearst, they got Iker, they got, they even got Tomlinson, that's four right there. You still got Perryon Winfrey, you still got Tommy Tokia.


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[Assistant] Coaches always say, don't save yourself. Say, what does that mean? There's a lot of dudes out there that'll take plays off because they are tired, because they want to stay on the field. We don't need that.


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[Assistant] If you're tired, we'll get you off the field. Yup. Then you come back and you give me everything you got on the next rep. Right. I think that's the, you know, and last year we saw guys with the hands on the hips and Atlanta running the ball 14 straight times and, and, and they tired, they suck it air, but guess what? You didn't have nobody to put in. Right. Who are you going to back them up with?


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[Assistant] It would go higher than where he went. I think now you're finally seeing it. A couple weeks ago I was watching Ohio State play a spring game.


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[Assistant] And Kyle McCord comes out and I'm like, oh my goodness, who is this guy? This is not what it is. And people say, oh no, G. Bush. Listen, give him, give him, give him a chance. He's gonna, like, you guys are just so negative about this. I said, listen, I don't understand. This is a philosophy.


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[Assistant] When you look at Ohio State, you got Dwayne Haskins. You, you look at, uh, after that they have Justin Fields. Then you get, uh, you get another quarterback of CJ Stroud. All of those guys have a certain level of arm talent, certain level of throwing the ball. So, so if you know what you excel at, you know what type of mold you have at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Then, you gotta set up your succession plan so that when one guy graduate, we got another dude that's already running the same kind of stuff, who do some of the same things. Because guess what, Jay, what if you got linemen that are sophomores, juniors, returning guys?


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[Assistant] Now, they're used to playing with a Fields, they're used to playing with a CJ Stroud, and guess what? When your new quarterback comes in, because they have similar traits,


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[Assistant] Everybody's on the same page. We're running the same arc. Ain't no, well, we gotta go to a more of a balanced attack. And I think this is exactly what they did with the Browns. You look at this guy, by the way, I just call him DTR. I, you know, I can't be memorizing all your last names.


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[Assistant] Uh, DTR, my man, they brought him in, and the great thing about it is, now you look at it, you got Josh Dobbs, you got him, and you got, uh, you got Deshaun Watson. Of course these guys don't have- It's a nice quarterback room. They don't have the same skill sets as Deshaun Watson at that highest level, but guess what?


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[Assistant] If you are now looking at this, this, this mix in, in four guys,


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[Assistant] It ain't a Jacoby Reset Deshaun Watson discrepancy. I can run the same offense. These guys are mobile. They can move their legs. They can move the pocket. They can all improvise. And so now, if one of them goes down, guess what? The game don't stop. We still running the same offense. And what happened, I think they made a conscious effort of saying,


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[Assistant] We loved what Jacoby Brissette was able to give to us, but the offense from those 11 games to the 6 games was night and day, and we saw how we took a step back. We want to have continuity, so all our guys are similar height, similar weight, similar skill set, and so once something happens, we run our program regardless. This is what we run.


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[Assistant] You know, Deft, he could play slot, he could play special teams. Uhm, I think it was a reverse Jedi move, my move, right? Hey, we could graph any corner in the world, right?


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[Assistant] Well, who you want to bring in? Well, you know, Greg Newsome has been mad a little bit. Let's bring this boy in, right? Yeah. So now he comes in and now he has this guy there and now he's going to tell him, hey man, if you want to make this team, bro, you got to get on these special teams. You got to learn to be versatile. You play inside and outside and quiet as kept. That's what he should be telling himself.


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[Assistant] So I think this is, it works two birds with one stone. It's always good to get a familiar face in the room. Wipeler, I thought would have went higher. He came out early. I think if he would have stayed another year, he could have actually been...


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[Assistant] This guy only plays center, right? And Nick Harris can play a little bit of guard, he does some things too. So I think this move, that-


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[Assistant] In the NFL. I'm not going to give you my, we're not going to talk grades specifically, but this elevated my thought processes and what the Browns was doing. Because for once,


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[Assistant] They actually did what most conventional GMs think about. They're like, man, this guy, let's look at his ability. He's a guy who's a basketball player, former basketball player, and he's not a, like,


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[Assistant] Soft basketball player or he's just out there to take space. No, the guy has feet work. The guy has a skill set and on top of it.


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[Assistant] They would have never taken a guy like this in the past. They would have never, never thought about drafting a guy like this. Uhm, to me, he reminds me a lot of Orlando Brown Jr., and Orlando Brown Jr., a lot of people don't really- Look at the mismatch there. Look at it, just get up out of it, just-


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[Assistant] He, uh, he, he, look, he, he dwarfs all people.


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[Assistant] This dude got the ability to play right tackle and left tackle in my opinion and


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[Assistant] He may take three or four leaps because of his just natural ability. You can't teach long arms like that. He'll lock out on you from here.


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[Assistant] I'm all for the money. I'm all for spending all of it. Like, it's a smart move. Like okay, I'm gonna give you 14. It's just 14, you know, for a top 10 pick or whatever. Now here's the great part about why I love bringing Jones in.


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[Assistant] Because now, I'mma be, it's something to be said for turning around and seeing a man of that size in your room.


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[Assistant] I'm hungry, I'm trying to get it. Like all that, like, see Judge Wills, I wouldn't even say, I wouldn't even say it's his bad plays.


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[Assistant] That, his bad plays was a lack of consistency and a lack of motor and a lack of, of hustle and wanting to go get it. You don't stop, like that's the cardinal sin. Like, like, here's what I'ma say this. He wasn't doing that when Nick Saban was doing it.


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[Assistant] Nick Saban don't play that. All that stopping in the middle to play and you just let a guy to lose because you didn't know what to do. No, he would have done that once or twice under that regime and he would have been on the bench. He'd been sitting beside me. Now here's the great thing about it. Now you got a dude that's coming in like that.


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[Assistant] And you know, he played for a top-notch organism, a top-notch, uh, uh, school and you got Bill Callahan is a guy that's teaching him. He better come out here and do his thing. He better come out and do his thing. Cause guess what? He's sitting right behind him. Hey, hey, Conklin, go ahead and get hurt.


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[Assistant] You know you'd be hurt half the time. Conklin, go ahead. Jet wheels that you better get your ankles wrapped. Double wrapped. Double wrapped them ankles bro. Cause now we got some, we got some competition in here.


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[Assistant] Is Reggie Ragland still of the squad? 12 million this year, by the way.


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[Assistant] I'm not a big Jed Wills like fan. Like I'm not a fan of his, his... The way Jed Wills has to play, he don't know it yet.


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[Assistant] Jed Wills feels like he can play at a certain level of speed because he's just that talented and he can get that off. That's not true.


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[Assistant] He's not like, like the Orlando Pacers of the world, the Jonathan Aldous of the world, uh, uh, uh, you know, those guys, Anthony Munoz, those dudes are physically, Joe Thomas, those dudes are physically gifted. They have very, they have long arms, very low body weight.


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[Assistant] I just, he just has to finish play. He just, you know, he has, hopefully that turns on a lot of people, a lot of people. Maybe his ceiling is average. Maybe his ceiling is above average. Who knows?


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[Assistant] You know, Kyle, you know, Jay talked about it earlier and, and I was pointed out last year, you know, the Browns, they do have some guys, some veterans here on the Takitaki. Uh, you got guys like JLK who's back, Phillips is back. Uhm, you know, guys in the middle like Anthony Walker.


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[Assistant] But no, no, no linebacker. Uhm, was that a function of, uhm, the Browns may not have liked any of the linebackers starting in the third round moving back to the seventh or whatever the case may be. Or do you feel like,


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[Assistant] It was a shallow, uh, linebacker draft in general for a lot of people.


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[Assistant] We talked about, uhm, you know, we haven't really discussed the other teams at FC North.


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[Assistant] Man, the Ravens and the Steelers, I like the pick of Darnell Washington.


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[Assistant] Maybe you, you alluded to something, uh, in terms of his medical that could have dropped him a little bit further. Maybe you could elaborate on that. And then also, uh, Zay Flowers, um, to the Baltimore Ravens.


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[Assistant] So the level, so this, so we've been...


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[Assistant] You know, Jason, you know, he's been, we, you know, we talk and he's like, yeah, guys, we ain't going to go up. I'm not going to do, we have jumped. Well, I'm going to try to jump off the porch with it, but this is some stuff. So there'll be stuff that you'll hear.


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[Assistant] And you just go about doing your job. You, you don't, there's certain topics that he'll know or, or Jail know or Buller know or somebody, somebody that told you be something that you don't even say half the time. You don't even say it. You just go on doing stories.


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[Assistant] And it took, it took him all year just to say that. And he told us that back, back in November. Like that is not Earth, by the way, this is not Earth moving, uh, noise. Like if you can't look at the, the climate of what the, the NBA is.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a business. It is a, this is their legacy and basketball players more than any, anybody really take the path that they want to go and their, their control over their career.


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[Assistant] More, you know, over the top than any other player. So I don't know why you would not assume that. We've been saying that for a long time. Like, look.


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[Assistant] And if you're Donovan Mitchell and you want sweeping changes, then you're going to say, well, I'm not signing nothing. I'm going to see what you do to put a team around me. And then we'll look at it to see how that team.


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[Assistant] You can go back and look through the annals of time when guys are super, he'll probably still either be first or second team all NBA.


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[Assistant] First or second team, all NBA dudes do want control. They want to control where they go. Look at the people who got traded. Kyrie Irving got traded to Boston. He said, I love it. Love it. Here's my team. I got Tatum, Brown, all these young dudes. It's me. We about to.


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[Assistant] Less than two years later, he's like, nah, I need the control. I want to go. I want to go start my own thing. He went to Brooklyn. I'll even go to the highest level. Now. I know Toronto ain't a mid-market team, but it ain't crazy, crazy NBA team. But when they got Kawhi Leonard, they went to the promised land. They went to the championship and beat the Warriors. And Kawhi Leonard was like, all right, appreciate you. I'm going home. What makes you think?


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[Assistant] Listen, you may say we guys up here in the media, you know, I jokingly say I'm the duke of knee jerk, but all I'm doing is just giving you the mirror. Now when I show up, you can decide if you want to believe it or not.


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[Assistant] But the proof's already been there. See, here we forget so quickly what happens. We just, we throw it away. And if someone just says to you, I like you because I understand Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Man, you gotta stop falling for that. And every time somebody reports something, every time somebody gives you something,


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[Assistant] You don't have to take it personally as if you want to bury your head in the sand and can't be a fan anymore.


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[Assistant] Trust me, people don't walk around and just make up stories to be truthful. If you, I got in this game and I'm, I always call people, I say, listen, I'm the least of the most locked in dudes in the game. I don't even got sources. And then one day I got some sources and then it messed me up because I'm like, this is really what'd be happening? This is really like, if you really knew


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[Assistant] 80% of the stuff that's available to talk about or that you knew that don't get reported, it would screw up your fandom. So just, just relax where no Jason's not printing, you know, phony dollars here. Uh, it is what it is. If you just take a look at the look at the tea leaves and at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] That, Donovan Mitchell ain't no different than the rest of the players that make these same moves. He's not signing no extension. Why would he sign an extension today? And that is something that's looming over the organization. It is what it is.


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[Assistant] They'd have to win like a championship. They'd have to like go to the finals or something.


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[Assistant] We were supposed to win a series, and at least this would have pacified you. At least this would have put a mala- no, over some general fans, it would have been like, we're right on target, right?


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[Assistant] But now, I'm sitting here laughing and like, come on man, you talk about this as a year, and then now we have no capital, and we're going to have to move them for something, you know we're not about to sell high.


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[Assistant] as well as anybody in the NBA. He gave you, he gave you with Jared Allen gave you a 42 minutes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I try not to do this. I try, but I, I just, I, I can't even like, it, it makes me physically angry and sick when I talk about the calves. I just can't like, I, I try to avoid it because


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[Assistant] The level of hubris that they spoke with


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[Assistant] After, after it was all done and I'm like, and then I'm watching Kevin Love contribute and now you telling me about how 50 wins is a, is a landmark. Man, listen, I'm gonna keep it real with you. It's a lot of dudes out here. That's a loser mentality.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a losing mentality. Don't tell me about no 50 wins. I saw LeBron get 66 and we was pissed as hell they lost to the Magic in the finals.


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[Assistant] It's levels to this, man. Listen, I'ma keep it real. He talk like a guy that know his job is secure. And I'ma just be honest with you.


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[Assistant] Dan Gilbert may not be running that level of the organization. He feel he real comfortable right now.


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[Assistant] But to sit up here and tell me about 51 wins and how that has a lot of cache with me, like come on man, I just, it irks me because the same thing that we got mad, we not dumb, we said the same thing about the Browns, remember? I said no, you got six games.


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[Assistant] That you, you chose the gentleman's partner, you got six games and we gonna watch you and see what you're doing. That's what the, this is what the Browns did.


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[Assistant] Andrew Berry said, this is analytic stuff. We might want to just start drafting off of who's good and who's not. And we need to turn this roster over.


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[Assistant] That's what happens when the pressure is on you. But he feel like he has no pressure on him. Zero. When I watch the Miami Heat come out here without Tyler Hero, with Jimmy Butler, and it says this about the league.


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[Assistant] That ju- it's a generational thing to me. Look at the teams that's winning. LeBron. You got your boy Chris Paul.


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[Assistant] Those guys. Those guys that, like Kevin Love, that's Jimmy Butler. These- Well, even the Warriors now. The Warriors. Look, all of that good talk, them dudes is a different type of breed. They like, oh, y'all win all the regular season games if you want to. So what? So what? I'll, I'll catch you and I, Steph Curry, I'll put you out of the playoffs on your own court.


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[Assistant] Like the young pup. I like what he, what he's brought and he, he wasn't even one of the, the tippy top prospects, but.


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[Assistant] That's the thing about the guardians. They always get, if they bring you up.


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[Assistant] You, you, you got something. I like the fact that...


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[Assistant] It's just so sad that he pitched that well. Gave up two earned runs, you know, only four hits. Um, struck out eight. I think it struck out eight the last game and it sucks because you, it was one of those games where you could just tell these bats is not going to do nothing.


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[Assistant] I would hope so. You know, the twins aren't really running away with it, but I think they gotta keep it close. I don't think they can get down seven, eight, eight games in the division.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not, my knees are very stable until Memorial Day, then I'm going off.


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[Assistant] But one thing I noticed is like, if it's been a year since...


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[Assistant] And it all comes from that wonderful gift that we need to spend so much more time exploring and feeding women's intuitions. Yes.


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[Assistant] Y'all know that I drive from Columbus. Now today was a hectic day. I had, I had my wife was leaving so I had to take the kids and drop them off at the grandparents. I had to drop my dog off at the vet.


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[Assistant] This man is fifth or sixth in all time playoff points. Like average. Yes.


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[Assistant] I don't think he hit that number there. I think he hit it one time in this series, the whole series. Game one was the only time. He has been M.I.A., like that second half against the Nixon game four.


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[Assistant] Just when MIA like that, you can't do that and be the star here. And it's, and I feel bad for DG because it's like, it was DG's team that obviously Donovan came in.


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[Assistant] He gave up the team rights to Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] I think it's the, to be honest with you, I think the disappointment in this outside of Donovan has been the post play. I just, we can't, how are we, we got two guys that's supposed to be really good in the paint with Evan.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. And it's really showing because we need those points. Like those, those couple of put back dunks and those second chance shots, we not getting them. And it's really showing a lot. Like in the game, we blew them out. We got a lot of second chance points. Exactly.


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[Assistant] That's why I think they gotta put, as much as I hate to say it, they gotta, you gotta leave Karras in the starting lineup over, I mean not Karras, uh, Koro over Karras because you need that defense in the beginning.


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[Assistant] It's unfortunate that that wing that we all was talking about we needed at the trade


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[Assistant] He should be able to do it. He's capable, yeaah. I mean at this point, he know what they doing. They blitzing him every time he get the ball. If that's the case, what he should do is he should let DG do his thing early on so they can try to make the adjustment. Okay, Donovan is taking the back seat.


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[Assistant] DG, he turn up, and it's, you can clearly see that this Cavs team got fight, cause DG comes in and turn up, everybody immediately plays better, except Donovan. So like, why is it that when Donovan turn up, everybody else don't follow that? Why does DG have that effect over a team, but Donovan don't?


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[Assistant] What Justin K, maybe, you know, maybe somebody like, you know, he, he good enough to go first round. So that first day sitting there, I'm watching all these Buckeyes just go, I see Joey go, I see Zeke go, I see Eli, Taylor, Darren. I'm just sitting there like.


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[Assistant] First of all, I'm happy for these boys. So what Mike is saying is I had the, uh, the packet, cause at this time the new CBA happened, so the numbers are slotted.


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[Assistant] Well, my sign of vote is only, is like 300,000. We get to the sixth round. Flip the pay.


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[Assistant] By round six or is it only round seven? Well, when they call you legally, they're not supposed to call you.


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[Assistant] Six, yeaah. I wanna pick. Cause obviously your chances of making the team, you know, fifth throughout is slim to none. Like you even ground with the undrafted people. Right, right, right. So it's like you might as well pick your destination. You got a better shot if you pick.


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[Assistant] They got Togeye and Ward as the two. Yeah, that might be one version.


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[Assistant] Yes, their second pick and ball. I like it. Parker Washington here. I'd rather take him, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what it is. And everybody with this, with like the first round mocks, they got like only like two ride receipts, two or three, and I'm like, that's not how it's gonna go. Once the first one go, they gonna start panicking, I gotta hurry up and jump on it.


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[Assistant] JJ just retired. They lost the Allen dude. They got it. All they got is.


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[Assistant] You play Dee Fisalai air offensive line. Yes, with a vice. Yes, the only person on the team. Yes.


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[Assistant] Wow, that is cool. It's legit, bruh. So you won it, so you won in high school, you won a championship in high school. National.


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[Assistant] I swear baseball is like the first sport that every kid plays. Like, Muni League where you go to the rec and sign up. Like, it's always baseball. So, I don't know why, I don't know why today kids don't play baseball. It's easy, I think part of it is...


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[Assistant] If your son pitch, you got to get the most athletic guy as catcher so he can stop the most pitch. That's what they did to me and me because I had a really strong arm, but my accuracy wasn't great. So they switched the catcher. They were like, he was like, just let it rip. Your catcher go catch everything.


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[Assistant] I appeal to the chair to recognize myself or one of my colleagues.


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[Assistant] That July 1st reference to skis, went over for skis, that's through skis, correct?


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[Assistant] And he stepped out of the hearing into a phone booth and took the call and, and Mies told him that it was going to be boring.


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[Assistant] And, uh, this was something that they promised never to forget, never to forgive. Absolutely energizing.


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[Assistant] Money, access, ideas, and network.


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[Assistant] And they were very successful on all those fronts.


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[Assistant] The scale and scope was fantastic. They get into more and more law schools until they have a chapter in every law school in the country.


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[Assistant] They're vetting all the nominees for federal judgeships.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uhm, obviously his career has been up and down. He has some highs, he has some lows, but it's just, it's something that's not concrete. You know, when you look at him,


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[Assistant] He doesn't come off to you as a guy that, is he the left tackle for the future of this team? The answer is...


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[Assistant] I don't think so. So therefore, I can't really give him anything higher than that. I think that he, they picked up his fifth year option, you know, just to give himself some security. But obviously with the picks that they've been given, I think they're, they're trying to move on from him. So C minus is the grave for me.


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[Assistant] Is it that bad though? But like when you think of office alignment, you think of some of the toughest dudes. Right. So the only, the only office alignment that to me gets away with wearing sleeves is Trent Williams.


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[Assistant] The Tristan, the Tristan Worf's one hurt the most because I think cause, cause Jay was a right tackle and they put him at left tackle. And Tristan Worf was like a left tackle that I was a great place. Like I don't.


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[Assistant] You know, I give, I give Dale Pitt a B. I give him a B. You know, last year, it started off rough.


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[Assistant] But at the end of the year, man, he was, to me, one of the best players in their secondary. I mean, the interceptions that he was getting, he found like, he seemed like he finally understood the playbook, he understood his responsibilities, he was making hits, he was in the right spot.


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[Assistant] If he continues to play like that, that's a guy that they should extend. I think he's a guy that could be one of the focal points of that secondary, so I'ma give him a B. I'ma go, I'ma go with B minor.


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[Assistant] He's not wrong. I'm giving him a D as well. I mean, I think last year he had, last year was the perfect opportunity for him.


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[Assistant] To make himself money and be a guy of the future and when that thing went south and he just, there was no, cause it was like, it was the littlest things. Like if you could just. Get off that block. Yeaah. Finish. Finish. Yeaah. Get a TFL. Make him, make the running back stop and switch directions. Something.


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[Assistant] That's a hell of a failure right there. How many games did you play? What are you talking about? You was harsh on Jordan Elliott. The only thing we remember about this guy is roughing the punter against who was that? That was Tony Fields. Oh, excuse me. I take that back.


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[Assistant] No, you know what, I'm not gonna give Jacob Phillips no F. He is, uh, to be all fair.


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[Assistant] He get a C plus for me. A C plus. I was just kidding on that. He get a C plus because he got, he got the potential. He's giving us glimpses. He just doesn't have consistency behind it. And that's.


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[Assistant] I mean, you would expect that out of a guy that's a, what round did he go? Third? Third? You would expect that out of a guy, a developmental guy that you know, he.


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[Assistant] The reason he probably wasn't a first round pick is because he wasn't consistent. You know, he had, he show you that he got the ability to do it. He just doesn't do it week in and week out. So it's really to be expected from a guy like that. So a C+. I'm gonna give him, uhm, he's gonna get, he's gonna get


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[Assistant] Harrison Bryan is okay, you know, he's a guy that, you know, when the joke who's out, he can still keep the thing moving. I don't know how, what's gonna happen this year. I mean, well, I guess they do keep three tight ends, so he might got a shot there. Uh, seven touchdowns, that's a solid B-minus to me.


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[Assistant] It's not even close. It says- And then they drafted Luke Whipler, too? Right. I-I-I gotta give it a- Yeaah, I can't agree. No, great.


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[Assistant] And if, and if Tillman has a season and Elijah Moore has a season, that's your one and two right there, so we don't need, and we got him under contract for the next two or three years, so we don't need neither one.


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[Assistant] To me that's an A. That's a good pick. And if David Bale is, even comes up and be actually pretty good, now you got three guys on the counter.


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[Assistant] To not even allow the Judiciary Committee to hold a hearing on his nomination just did not sit right with me.


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[Assistant] This stuff is now intensely polarized and super partisan.


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[Assistant] Hey, looks like we got a gangsta mayor. Listen, I love this story. Okay, Browns fans, don't go anywhere. We're going to get to that in just a second. Uh, hot off the presses.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, lot to get to today. A whole lot to get to today. Uh, we're gonna do Bull's Bet. First, quickly, a rundown. We're gonna preview Cavs next game three. My buddy from ESPN, Tim Legler's gonna come on, full of, uh, opinion on, not just the Cav series, but all the NBA series. Guardians open with the Marlins tonight at Progressive.


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[Assistant] And, is there even a list of five things that Tyvis can't do?


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[Assistant] I'll tell you this, you'll never find five things that he'll agree upon that he can't do. Well, that's true. That's absolutely true, but I don't think it's five things I can't do. Is one of them he cannot touch my cutter? Is that one of the five?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause he's doing it kind of, so we're keeping a, we're keeping a full scoreboard and then he, he says that he could definitely win money betting baseball.


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[Assistant] On the baseball picks. By the way, McNuggets is betting every single game this year. It's making 162 $10 bets with the run line that the A's will lose.


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[Assistant] Some of the experts say they could lose 110 games. Now an interesting development as we track that bet.


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[Assistant] The team is completely unplugged now as the big story yesterday.


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[Assistant] The owners of the Oakland A's bought a huge parcel of land not far from the Vegas Strip. And obviously the speculation is they're going to break ground on a new retractable roof stadium. About 30,000 people it will hold.


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[Assistant] Right there in Las Vegas, so. I feel bad for, I feel bad for Oakland. You know what it is? It's the movie Major League come to life. They losing. They're losing on purpose in order to move the team.


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[Assistant] Good point because they've been trying to get one for the better part of 20 years. That stadium, I don't know if you guys remember this, a couple of years ago there was a big story.


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[Assistant] Sewage was wit- was coming back up through the...


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[Assistant] Through the bathrooms at the stadium. I wonder what the players feel about moving to Vegas.


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[Assistant] And so you can understand why now guys from Jacksonville and Houston and Dallas and Tampa and Miami. That's why they all want to go. That's where they want to go. They have an actual geographic advantage because they don't have to pay that state income tax.


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[Assistant] Everybody's under the idea that there's going to be a stadium renovation here. I think Jimmy Haslam was under the idea that the state or the city was going to help with some funds to do that. Breaking news.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, so you guys know that, uh, it's, it's, I guess it's a meme. It's a, it's an animated meme where somebody says something and then it pauses and then a pair of sunglasses come on and a do-rag comes out and Sig goes in his mouth and they play the, I think it's Snoop or Dre, little, little beat. Uh, hey, Bibb is


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[Assistant] It's, I've been told that all along, the Haslums are in love with the idea of independence.


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[Assistant] And building a facility there similar to what the


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[Assistant] Rams and the Chargers have an LA. So a huge, kind of megaplex deal where it's, yes it's a stadium, but there's all kinds of entertainment options around it. Now remember that's where Topgolf is, which draws a huge number of fans. Now to do this you need many, many acres.


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[Assistant] I'm told that they believe there's a plot of land that they could buy and use.


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[Assistant] Then we, all of a sudden we heard all these conflicting reports from the neo trans blogger. And I, at the time I was wondering, is this guy being used for Haslam to get his message out or is this actually


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[Assistant] Everybody refuted it, but you know what? Initially,


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[Assistant] And then the word came that the Haslam's commissioned, uh, architectural firm to do an analysis on the stadium. How much would it cost to put a dome on it?


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[Assistant] And basically the report said this stadium was built quickly, cheaply, and poorly. And there's really no chance that you're gonna just throw a lid on it and it's gonna be safe.


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[Assistant] So, that got us down the road of, well, might he move to another spot? Then we heard from Neotrans again, the blog.


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[Assistant] Haslam came out and there was, there was word that said, no, we're thinking about just staying where we are and renovating.


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[Assistant] Well, I think we looked up at the time, I think Snyder purchased the Redskins for at or below a billion. Yup. Okay, now,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure, I don't have to look this up. I'm imagining that the metro area in DC kicked in some money for the FedEx stadium. So does that mean that when Snyder gets that $6 billion check, he's going to reimburse the city for the money that they gave him for the stadium? Which changed hands too? No, it doesn't work that way.


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[Assistant] And so if I'm, if I'm Mayor Bibb, here's what I say. How much you want? 500 million? Okay, here's the deal. I'm going to give you 500 million.


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[Assistant] And upon sale of the franchise or 10 years, whichever comes first, you pay it back at 10% interest.


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[Assistant] Give that money back. Why, why are we, I think it's one of the great hoodwinks of the 20th century that fans of teams


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[Assistant] And cities, many of the residents who are not fans of those teams have been hoodwinked into paying so billionaires can build new houses that when they sell the franchise, they get to cash in on again.


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[Assistant] So, that's the end game. In my view, when I started saying I'm just going to spitball out loud, I think this now gives them the political capital. There it is.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure how it would work from a municipality standpoint. The way I've always understand, some of these deals are done differently. Typically what happens is, the city, sometimes they even get a check from the state.


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[Assistant] The Guardian's got a check from the state.


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[Assistant] I do believe that Jimmy Haslam writing


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[Assistant] The couple hundred million dollar check to become a minority owner in team in Milwaukee.


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[Assistant] I'm wondering, I'd love for Mayor Bibb to talk about it. You have an invitation to come on this show and talk anytime you want. We've had you in studio. We would love to have you as a guest. If someone's watching this and has access to the mayor and they want to shoot out a call to him,


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[Assistant] You wanna call us right now? We would love to talk to you about this. I would like to know what his thought process was on how we got there.


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[Assistant] Like you, I think we're crazy if the Milwaukee bye didn't play into this.


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[Assistant] Here's the hammer that Haslam's holding, okay? I'm the centerpiece for what you want to do down there.


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[Assistant] Now, on the other side, you have to look at it like this, and I think Mayor Bibb will.


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[Assistant] Look at it this way. They're kind of landlocked down there. One of the pieces of land that they would love to be able to do something with is Burke Lakefront, located about 200 yards behind my back right now. It sits there, and we know this because the gym


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[Assistant] Faces Burke and the wall of windows. And as we're working out all day, I see a lack of activity at the airport.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, it, I'm not going to say that they don't use it, but it's rarely, if ever, used. And it's mostly used by extremely wealthy people. So you know when it's used? When the DNC, or the RNC convention was in town. When the World Series and NBA playoffs are here and all the celebrities that want to be seen fly into Burke.


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[Assistant] And it's convenient for them, and I get that. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, whenever they do decide to be nice and give us one of the events, all of the rock stars fly in to Burke. And they're lined up like, you know, planes coming into LaGuardia. However, on 360 days a year,


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[Assistant] And a draw to the city. The big thing they need is the land bridge. They've got to have a connective walking area. So you don't have to walk over or under 90. Uh, you know, that's the big, it's landlocked right now. Well, if by chance,


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[Assistant] They do decide to punt the Haslums and move. That would then give the city that piece of land to do something with.


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[Assistant] Well, why would you keep it? I mean, at that point, why would you keep it? Uhm, there's no other team that you can put in there to play. It doesn't make sense. Now, if you want to


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[Assistant] I don't know how much of that structure could survive as they still rearrange it to be that. I don't know. I have no idea what they would do with it, what would become of it, but I think what we have here


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[Assistant] Is a good old fashioned political stare down between Mayor Bibb and Jimmy Haslam.


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[Assistant] And gee, could you blame anybody on the council or Mayor Bid?


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[Assistant] If they said, we've got a finite number of dollars.


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[Assistant] And we have a lot of issues that need addressed in Cleveland. For one, crime is skyrocketing.


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[Assistant] Auto theft in, in Cleveland, the, the numbers, I would just use, put these up on channel three either yesterday or the day before. Auto theft is up like 60%.


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[Assistant] Our police force is woefully undermanned. Woefully. Everybody's quit! And the new classes that are coming through are...


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[Assistant] It's, it's stunning to me. Just in the five years that I've been here to see how small those classes have gotten down to, to now it's like a gathering of friends and


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[Assistant] And G, to that point, so that finite pile of cash that you have, how do you go to your residence?


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[Assistant] That your, that you answer to and say, you know, we don't have money for better schools. We don't have money for better teachers. We don't have money to invest in the greatest resource that any city has, our young people. We don't have resources to make our city safe and secure.


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[Assistant] It's all been cut. All social funding. But what we're gonna do is write a couple hundred million dollar check to a billionaire so when he sells the team he gets even more money.


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[Assistant] And I've never for a second thought that Haslam wanted to just renovate that stadium. He wants a dome. I've never for a second...


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[Assistant] He wants to play warm weather and he wants to play. Well, I don't know that that would have been the case because even if you start a construction on a dome stadium today, they're not playing there for three years. Three to four. I mean, it takes a long time to build these behemoths. Yeah. So I don't know that that had anything to do with why Deshaun chose to come here because he wanted to plan to go.


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[Assistant] That's probably more likely than anything else. But I think what's going to end up happening here is Jimmy's either gonna


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[Assistant] And, and here's the other thing. The idea was floated again from the Neotrans blog. Funny how all these things are coming through one guy. The story was planted about a week ago.


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[Assistant] From a very cynical and a long time media personality here, I'm looking at these planted leaks.


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[Assistant] So like if I'm a media member and I'm writing a story that I'm getting directly from the Browns organization and let's face it, it had to come from someone inside.


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[Assistant] And then that same organization, months later, comes out and publicly refutes it? That's the last time I ever print anything they whisper in my ear.


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[Assistant] Haslam, second time, shame on you. And I don't know that that's what happened. It's pure speculation. I know how media works. I could, I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong, I apologize.


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[Assistant] But it just seems like it's all, you know, that there's this public posturing to get this new stadium deal done.


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[Assistant] And I do think that the one thing we can learn from today is that if it's gonna happen wherever it happens, it's gonna happen out of Haslam's checkbook, and I think that's the way it should happen.


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[Assistant] Domed stadium. And it's in the vicinity of Cleveland like Independence would be.


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[Assistant] That's, independence is pretty centrally located. Easy to get to from the east, easy to get to from the west. I don't think bands would, would, would be against that.


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[Assistant] You would also be able to hold a lot of other events there, which is what has, that's how you monetize. Exactly. If you're Jimmy Haslam. And that's smart. He's being a smart businessman. But there's a lot, a lot going on there. Okay, uh, you have a read.


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[Assistant] I'm just stunned that there'd be even 42% that would say, yeah, go ahead and give the rich guy all the money he needs. Even though we just bought part of a team in Milwaukee. They love they Browns. Look, I do too.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, for crying out loud, uh, he's a billionaire. He doesn't give public handouts. He's not entitled to public handouts.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, we were gonna talk about the Browns, how they packaged some draft picks to move up in the draft. You wanna come back to that if there's time later in the show?


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[Assistant] Man, it's been a long time. I mean, it's been way too long, as a matter of fact.


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[Assistant] Who were the Cavaliers? The team we saw in game one or the team we saw in game two?


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[Assistant] Nice. Alright, you're on with G. Bush. He's in the middle. Thivas Paul, former Buckeye great.


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[Assistant] sleeping thinking that you were born 25 years too soon. Because I, I think you and I had this conversation in the past, but you in today's game,


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the end game. You gotta be able to score. And particularly, it's funny how once you get in the playoffs in that rotation, everything is, it's just, it's like under a magnifying glass and three minutes sometimes can feel like an entire quarter.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that leash gets short. It's gonna be really interesting to see how JB handles the choreo situation the rest of the series. Uh, before we move off the Cav series,


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[Assistant] Uh, what is Madison Square Garden going to be like tonight for those that have never been there, particularly been there for a big game? What are the Cavs in for?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we've seen it a lot. And New York teams typically, uh, you know, for the championships that they've won, not talking about the Knicks, but the Yankees, the Giants, they,


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[Assistant] They have a tough time winning at home in playoff games. And hell, the Knicks this year have a better road record than they do home records. Which is bizarre. I don't know what it is about the Northeast, why they're so hard on their team.


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[Assistant] Hey legs, I want to ask you about a guy we're familiar with. Mike Brown's done a terrific job this year in Sacramento. Uhm, talk a little bit about what he's been able to do there and how much of that is directly pinned to him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, careful tugging on Superman's cape. Before I let you go, I've asked you this question a couple times during our friendship. I'll ask it to you one more time. I take you to Rocket Mortgage Field House right now.


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[Assistant] And I give you 103 point shots. How many are you making?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and his communication skills, like let's face it, Mike Brown's a great communicator. It's really crazy what Mike Brown has done. He's one coach of the year.


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[Assistant] 14 years apart with two different teams. Impossible. It's, it's highly unlikely.


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[Assistant] It's really, it's impressive. Uhm, but I think Legs is a great communicator and he and I have had conversations about, you know, I think he would like to coach at some point. Uhm, he's actually a new father. That's crazy. He's got a 16 month old.


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[Assistant] I don't know if this is a fact, but I read once that the more athletic you are, the more likely you are to have


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[Assistant] I wonder if it's because now more than ever the league is partnered with gambling entities.


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[Assistant] I don't know what the deal is, but I think that because it's going to be so common, they can't be suspended 25 guys for a year. That's half a team.


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[Assistant] Because this- I mean, when you walk into every major league baseball clubhouse, their anti-gambling policy is posted.


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[Assistant] Everywhere. Ain't that crazy Jay? It's like. That's baseball's cardinal sin.


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[Assistant] I wonder at some point if we're not gonna see a lawsuit.


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[Assistant] From a player that gets suspended. And here's why I say that. Uh, I know they're a private business. They can do what they want. But the league, to your point, is taking


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[Assistant] And if, the thought is, well, we're not betting on football. Well, if you suffer huge losses betting on basketball.


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[Assistant] There's one quick and easy way to make sure you get all that money back. And that's by betting on a game that you can control.


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[Assistant] And I also think the other part of that too is, the scenario that I gave, let's say you just bet baseball or bet basketball.


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[Assistant] And you, you're on a real losing streak. And you're, you know, these guys aren't betting $500. You're, you know, 60, 70, $100,000 in the hole.


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[Assistant] Well, the one way you can control how you make that back, particularly if you play a position of importance, basketball, you're LeBron James, you know, you just decide you're going to be 2 for 20 tonight.


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[Assistant] Once the sports betting is legal in all 50 or however many are going to eventually make it legal. 50. It's going to be, it's going to continue to contribute to the popularity of the sport.


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[Assistant] You got 50 bucks riding on a game, you're glued to the set. You're more likely to watch a game if you have a bet on it.


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[Assistant] I used to watch one game a week. That's it. Mine. The Brown.


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[Assistant] So there was no evidence that he ever threw a game. And then the critics will say, well, if you're his bookie and he bet five games in a week, all for the Reds to win,


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[Assistant] What do you think is going to happen on those two games where he didn't bet on his own team? Right, like if he didn't just place the bet, that means he wasn't that confident. He doesn't like that starting pitcher. That might be a smart play. I think it's ridiculous that Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame. I really do. I think that's a joke. I mean, if you give me evidence that he threw games, that he actually


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[Assistant] I've definitely seen a body transformation going on with you. I see you in the gym, bro. I see him in there doing the work. COVID knocked me on the butt, but I'm back to it. I never bench max. I rep 155, 60 times. I don't even need to ask you, cause, do you still lift?


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[Assistant] The biggest fear that you have stays with you forever. Mine is I slept through a test.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm really torn, guys. I picked the Nixon 7. Did you really? I did. Wow.


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[Assistant] No, you know what he did? This is one of the greatest stories ever. Planned it, paid for it, and got close and said, no, this ain't happening. Everybody went home, money wasted. Year later, he's like, yeah, babe, let's get married. And he did it.


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[Assistant] The other thing is the Knicks have a better road record than they do at home. But here's the caveat that I'll throw in there.


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[Assistant] Madison Square Garden, I've been there for playoff games. I've been there for regular season games. Tim Legler was not kidding. There is just something different about it. It's called the Mecca. They don't call it the Mecca for nothing. And those fans have been years without a drink.


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[Assistant] And tonight, there's a big party and a lot of booze.


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[Assistant] Lost to the Hawks. I think they won one, did they win one in that series? They lost, they lost four to one? No, it was three to one. No, I, yeah, no, four to one. I thought it won.


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[Assistant] I asked legs the very first question are who are the Cavs? The game one team or the game? Then what did he say? Game two.


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[Assistant] And I believe that he's right. But I believe for this particular game,


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[Assistant] Well, you touched on this, I think, and I'm not going to talk to, like, I'm not going to talk myself into sticking with my pick. Right. Because I am an optimist.


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[Assistant] I want the Cavs to win this thing. I feel much better about their chances after watching what they did in game two. They did, to me, I don't, I wasn't here the day after the game. The key for game two.


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[Assistant] Wasn't Darius Garland getting involved, wasn't any of that. It was the fact that they limited the Knicks' second looks.


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[Assistant] They killed the Cavs on the offensive boards in game one.