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[Assistant] If you win on Sunday, that you can beat a Gimpy Mahomes, uh, a neutral side of FitzBuffalo or in Kansas City. So yeaah, I think you're feeling really good. Both those teams, the game already meant a lot, now it means even more because you're going to be extra confident going into the AFC title game.


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[Assistant] By the way, people in the comment section seem to be confused. We're not talking about, we're talking about the Bengals and the Bills matching up against Kansas City at this point and the point spread for both, not just the Bengals. We're not assuming, we're not assuming under any circumstance the Bengals with zero healthy offense alignment beat Buffalo.


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[Assistant] And the rounds playoff game that you were talking about, he actually threw an interception and almost threw the game away. And the only thing people remember, he won the game because he converted a fourth and won that.


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[Assistant] But they almost started dismantling that team right away. Plus Blake Bortles was their quarterback, so you never felt like they had a chance at long-term success. And this is different. This is where you have younger players. Now you know, hey, look, there are a few holes we need to go out and fill. And then they had a couple huge


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[Assistant] Uh, signings in free agency that ended up, I mean, Evan Ingram was just dynamite the entire year, Christian Kirk.


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[Assistant] Christian Kirk was pretty good except for dropping a 50 yard bomb from Trevor Lawrence. Uh, but otherwise, you know, so they made smart signings, their draft picks are panning out.


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[Assistant] And that's how you build a successful franchise. And then obviously getting the head coach in there is exactly what you want to see. And don't forget, they play in the force division in the AFC. So all you have to be is kind of good and you're going to be competitive for quite a few years.


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[Assistant] So yeah, I mean, yeah, if you're, if you're a Jags fan, you have to feel the best you have felt about this franchise in probably over a decade.


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[Assistant] The team celebrates playoff games by going to Waffle House and they can be running the division and going to a lot of Waffle House brunches, uh, after their wins.


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[Assistant] I mean, somebody coached the Browns to an 0-16 record.


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[Assistant] In Columbus, don't confuse the cities.


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[Assistant] I mean, Bobby Petrino walked out on his team and left everyone a note. I'm saying Urban Meyer, the horrible, horrible NFL head coach. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm not going to make a blanket. It's the worst. Okay. This globe is not Russia.


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[Assistant] It's really weird. Why are you supporting the guy who left his team notes and walked out on him? Could be worse. How's that a bad take? Okay. You don't have it. Wilson.


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[Assistant] I would be the first person to make- I'm the guy who was in Columbus and took a picture of Ernmire Steakhouse and texted it to you guys because I thought it was funny. Where he took- where the whole thing happened.


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[Assistant] If I'm Jacksonville, I feel very good about my future and about the possibility of winning division titles down the road and getting back to the playoffs. If I'm the Giants, I am very happy that I got to the playoffs. This is a successful season, but I don't know that I feel like I'm still in the same division as the Eagles. I'm still in the same division as the Cowboys, two teams that are pretty stacked right now.


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[Assistant] No, if they're the giants, you feel ten times better about your future than you did before the season started, so I mean- I would rather be the giants than the Cowboys for sure.


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[Assistant] You guys would rather be the team that got swept by the Cowboys than the Cowboys. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well here is my problem is, is that this game showed that how far the Giants have to come before they're in the top tier of the division. They got smoked twice by Philly during, or they got smoked once and then, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't think Dale Jones is as good as Josh Allen. And the 2017 comparison, do you know what the bills did in 2018, Princeton?


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[Assistant] Or Daniel Jones had a putrid game and you have to say, if I sign this guy to a long-term contract, can I compete in the NFC East with him as my quarterback? Can I compete for division titles? Because he went 15 to 20, 70 at a horrible game against Eagles. He had a horrible game against Eagles when he played them earlier this year.


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[Assistant] My butt, and this is also what I said last week is that I attribute that to Dak's thumb injury because he cratered coming back from the thumb and it was can he recover from that thumb injury and


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[Assistant] We only have a one game sample size that says yes, so we don't know. We'll find out more on Sunday against the 49ers. But if he recovers from that thumb injury, then I feel a lot more comfortable with Dak Prescott and the Dale Jones, and it's not even close.


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[Assistant] Brian Dable is an excellent coach. If I'm a fan of the Giants, I am, I am happy and optimistic about the future. But Wilson said, is it similar to Jacksonville? And I said, no, I would rather be Jacksonville than the Giants. Of course you'd rather be Jacksonville. That's what I said.


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[Assistant] I said that maybe Bobby Petrino was the worst coach in the minor. And they're the top two.


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[Assistant] And then I said that I would rather be Jacksonville than New York right now. But both teams should feel optimistic.


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[Assistant] No, that's not what happened. This conversation started because Wilson was talking about Jacksonville and New York and how both fanbases should feel good about their future. That's what started. And then you asked me, and then I said,


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[Assistant] And then I said it, the tough thing for New York is that their division is tougher and then it's gonna be hard for them to catch up with the Cowboys and Eagles. And then you said that they're already caught up with the Cowboys because they have some, the Cowboys have so many questions and the Giants don't and that you would rather be the Giants than the Cowboys. And I said no, I would rather be the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, we already said it. I think if you're the Giants, you should be extremely optimistic. The team played out of its mind all season. Your head coach is the best head coach you have had, uh, since Tom Copeland.


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[Assistant] It's been a while since that team's had any success and, and obviously Giants fans should be thrilled because the structure is there.


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[Assistant] But once you've tasted it, it's worse that you have to go longer without it because you've had the taste and now you're not getting back to it.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm talking about, if you're a Bengals fan or a Browns fan or a Cardinals fan or something, you don't know what you're missing. You're just thinking a lot. What is the date today?


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[Assistant] January 21st? You asked me that as the clock hit midnight. Was this a trick question, Brinson? It was. Actually, I played that on the run.


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[Assistant] So if they do win, I feel like you should just split all the money with the podcast listeners.


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[Assistant] One thing real quick about Jalen Hurts though, is that, you know, and we were talking about how week 18, that they weren't running their RPOs, they weren't running their normal offense, because that was the week where they weren't trying to get Jalen Hurts into. But this week,


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[Assistant] It felt like they let him run. They wanted him to run or as Billy was saying, if you want to go run, do it, but don't be crazy. Don't take any hits because he did have two kind of key runs on the first two possessions. And it was this, it was almost as if he did that.


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[Assistant] Just so the Eagles were saying, no, Jaywin might run because the Giants weren't worried about that the first week when he's coming back in week 18 because it was like, they're not going to run. They don't want him to get injured. But now, hey, look, Jaywin Hertz is running. He had a nine yard run on the second possession. He had a six yard run on a second 11 on the first possession. So now the Giants.


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[Assistant] But to Billy's point, Rockburney really hasn't been tested as far as like facing a team as good as Philadelphia. In the games he has won, the five teams he's beaten have a combined record of 35, 49 and 1. So.


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[Assistant] It is either two and a half or three and a half. Billy doesn't have his own proprietary system of place like wins over Wilson. So I, it's, it's, we gotta go.


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[Assistant] With the last pick in the draft, no one plans to ever play the last pick in the draft. That's a break glass in case of emergency quarterback. That's what happens when you lose two quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] There's no luck about Bell Belichick and Tom Brady. The fact that Tom Brady ended up starting a game, yes, that was luck. Belichick had no plans to start Tom Brady until Drew Gretzky got hurt.


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[Assistant] And also has one team left, the Chiefs. And our listener, Caleb, down to the Bills and 49ers, going head to head with Caleb.


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[Assistant] One thing about this game though that I feel like we didn't really touch on is that it felt like the game was over.


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[Assistant] Well, what would you have done? I mean, that was a big situation. You have Brian Dable making a huge, huge decision. And, you know, fourth and three, that's one thing, but then on third and three, Dale Jones takes the sack, loses five yards, so now it's fourth and eight.


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[Assistant] And that was where he was punning down in the fourth quarter when he went four on fourth and eight in that situation. I do think he made the right decision, but if you're Daniel Jones who got sacked there by Hassan Raddick, you cannot take a sack on fourth down. Just throw it up. If it's interception, it's interception. Like you cannot take a sack. Who was getting sacked?


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[Assistant] There's three scores first of all. And the Giants were down 28 to 7. That's also three scores, Brandon.


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[Assistant] I just make fun of Payton, I think. I'm a make fun Payton guy. Uh, and talk, talk a little football. And yeah, I don't know what, I don't know. Yeah. Host? I think we're hosts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that was the idea. Just, you know, how it started. Just what it'd be like to sit there and watch a game with us. And this is, we've done it like growing up. This is, this is us either. We used to go to Saints games if they had home games, but we were just sitting around. You're watching.


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[Assistant] You know, going outside, you know, playing a little, you know, playing a little pickup game during halftime and then like back in to watch it. And you just, you learn the game. And then as we got into playing sports and, uh, we were together, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think that's the idea. I think when you're playing, when you're playing football a little bit, you know, to the media, you're talking about such a serious thing. Like every week you're talking about, well, you know, what you did the previous week and what you got to do this week and how that game went. So there's not a whole lot of.


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[Assistant] You know, time to be too, uh, silly or relaxed, like it's a very, and you don't want people to, you know, maybe dive into what you're.


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[Assistant] I think it's a nice feeling when you're, when you're done playing, it's like, I don't have to worry about someone thing. I'm not, I'm not doing my job well or not preparing. You can be a little bit more relaxed and, and we obviously prepare and study.


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[Assistant] Really mad at you, like, if he did that, that would even be more material for me to bring to the show.


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[Assistant] No, I think, I think, I think the quarterback position is really strong right now. And you look at, you know, Patrick Mahomes, I mean, he's, he's, he's the old, old vet at this point. I mean, he's, all he does is go to.


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[Assistant] AFC championship games and go to super bowls. But then you, you know, you throw in, uh, burrow and you know, all these guys, Jalen hurts the way he's playing this year.


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[Assistant] Uh, that are just getting started and that, you know, we'll start making that transition and get into where they're playing.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, making playoffs and winning playoffs games. So I think, I think football is in great shape. I think the quarterback position, so many guys playing at a high level and playing with different styles, being able to run the ball, throw the ball accurately, make the big plays. Uh, it's, it's really good right now.


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[Assistant] And this, so you got to add some players, you got, you know, kind of find that mix of signing, signing the guys that you want to be your base, you know, team that have done well, that can continue to grow and make strides, but, and, and, and keep them, resign them. And then you got to go out there.


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[Assistant] And do well in the draft do well in free agency and get some key guys that can come in and make an immediate impact on the team. So, uh, I think Joe Shane, Dave will do a great job of.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Manningham throw is a little like a better throw. Like that's kind of how you think of football. Hey, drop back door, go route, you know, put it in a good spot and, and a great, a great unbelievable catch by him, um, getting hit on the outside shoulder. You know, the Tyree play was just kind of a.


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[Assistant] Ugly looking bad play. This just kind of turned out really good by David Tyree. Just a great unbelievable effort, kind of a willpower to hold onto that ball.


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[Assistant] By going to Tik Tok following Quaker in between today and February 12th, Super Bowl Sunday upload their own.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Orvince and I'm your host. Time for some bold predictions. Second round of the playoffs. The original round is here. Ryan Wilson, John Breach, and Tyler Sullivan, aka Sully. What's up, boys? How we doing?


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[Assistant] See, that's classic breach, by the way, selling. If you, I know you've been around here for a while, but just, just so you know, breach comes in like somehow managed to make it about himself while also giving out a bold prediction that isn't really bold and stealing Wilson's thunder. Classic breach.


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[Assistant] Hey, Wilson, tell us, tell us all about the time that, uh, you did the hundred things or the nine. My God.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright. Well, we'll just do a quick recap. You, uh, I mean, look, you spent the time on the spreadsheet. Why don't you give us the, uh... Okay, I don't know if you guys...


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[Assistant] I need solid tie for that one. Alright, we'll do it to you. I had something crazy with like 800 total yards. I don't think that happened. No, you had to- Herbert didn't have any passing yards.


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[Assistant] Just call it wild card. I mean, nothing's changed. Yeah, everyone would like that more, but the NFL's wanted to be super.


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[Assistant] Runs the Philly Special for a touchdown of Doug Peterson. Oh boy.


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[Assistant] I'll give you a B-minus. I really didn't listen to what you said, I just wanted to give you a lower grade.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. I'm gonna give you an A minus. It would be a straight A.


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[Assistant] No, obviously that would make it more difficult to get it correct, but...


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[Assistant] No, but I'm just saying, like if Trevor Lorch says five passing touchdowns, then either one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll give it a B plus because I think it's bold. It's so specific that it's bold. It's something that, it's almost something, it's like the opposite of what breach would do.


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[Assistant] You painted yourself into a corner. It's something I would do with all these qualifiers where like, if he throws for 3, 3.25 and fumbles once, throws two picks and throws three touchdowns and the Chiefs win with the Jaguars cover, you still don't get it.


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[Assistant] So, uh, B+, just cause it's creative and bold and...


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[Assistant] But, uh, before we, before we move on, just want to point out the total in this game, 53, the Chiefs minus eight and a half. Uhm, the general.


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[Assistant] Uh, consensus I'm getting here is that you three probably think the Chiefs win, but the Jaguars cover.


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[Assistant] Hard, hard not to like the over at 53. It's a lot of points.


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[Assistant] That's ball. That would be something. I'm going to give you an F for that because this is what I mean, if the Jaguars shut out Patrick Mahomes and score 35 points of the Chiefs defense, like that would be, that would be


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[Assistant] The wildest thing that happened in the NFL this year, and there's been some really weird stuff that's happened this season. Um, I didn't believe towards you ever. I think kids say he's gonna win a cover.


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[Assistant] I know that's, I know they haven't covered a lot this season. They've been bad against the spread. Andy Reid's coming off the buy though. The matchup with his old guy, Doug Peterson. I like the, uh, the Chiefs in this spot.


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[Assistant] Eagles minus seven and a half, a total of 48 by the way, lowest total this weekend for divisional round. 46 and a half. It's notable mainly because we talked about this last night, but like, I mean, three of these games are in.


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[Assistant] Potential bad weather spots for divisional round games outdoors, all former outdoors, but three of them bad weather spots, Buffalo affiliate, Kansas City and still huge totals for these games.


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[Assistant] Probably because five or six of their games so far this, uh, playoffs have gone over. Wilson, your bowl prediction for Giants.


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[Assistant] I think that you could have just come out of the gates with Danny Dimes runs for more yards in jail and hurts, and you would have gotten an A from me. Uh, the Giants winning, of course, is very, very, but like one, just one of those two would have been a great bowl prediction.


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[Assistant] And you proceed to murder me. Sully gives you a B plus and you say, thank you, Sully.


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[Assistant] This is, this is a quintessential breach. He has multiple outs here.


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[Assistant] One, actually there's three outs. One, AJ Brown gets double coverage and just doesn't catch a bunch of passes. Two, Davante Smith rags up the receiving yards. Three, the Eagles run the ball so well that they don't throw a lot and they smoke the Giants.


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[Assistant] Oh man. Breach, what is the record for most receiving yards in a divisional round game?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'll see if I can find the division round. I say AJ Brown goes for 200 yards, three touchdowns, and the Eagles win by double digits.


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[Assistant] Who's that? 228 yards. Eagles win by double digits.


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[Assistant] Oh God, this is like the best recap. This is, this is what, this is the recap podcast that we live for all year long. We stay up till 2 AM on Sunday nights for like 20 straight weeks. And then finally.


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[Assistant] Throw us a bone on the visual round weekend and give us the final game of the week at 6 30 PM. I'm surprised you didn't like slot some sort of like exhibition game and at like nine o'clock at night on Sunday.


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[Assistant] I saw you doing the live blog. It's like, it's just like, like next on team, Chris Carter.


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[Assistant] Says the guy who goes to play old man's soccer in Asheville on Labor Day with a freaking cut. No, he hadn't been around for cuts. Final cuts of the preseason, 20 years.


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[Assistant] Oh wait, who's up? I think, uh, Breach is up. No, I'm sorry. Offload minus five, total of 48. Line's ticked up a little bit.


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[Assistant] With the Jonah Williams news, he's, uh, week to week, as we pointed out on Monday night show, that has typically not been great for Zach Taylor.


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[Assistant] Look, I only gave you the F on the AJ Brown thing because I was going complete oppo and I can't like give you an A and then say he's going to break the record. So I'll give you an F minus minus. I'll give you a, I'll give you a B for that. A B plus for that one.


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[Assistant] Like, I, I, no, no, no, no, no, B. Because it would be a, it would be a B plus.


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[Assistant] But I'm a docu, a third of a letter grade here breach because I should really document more. Honestly. Um, this is clearly rooted in a wish, uh, wish casting some from fantasy of yours where the Bengals locked down Josh Allen and advanced to the AFC championship game for the second year in a row. Um, but you don't want to say that because you're worried you'll jinx it. So you're just saying Josh Allen's going to stink.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll give it, you know, I'll give it an A- as well. I think it's a good prediction. Uh, would have docked you a little bit for the manner in which you fumbled the, the explanation of it with the double and the two and all that, but then breach again, life jacket. And the fact that breach mail jail says a lot about, about your prediction, I think. So A-.


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[Assistant] I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll give you a B plus. I think it's a pretty vague, pretty generic, but it is a, it is bold and you can, you have multiple ways to get there. So I'll give you a B plus.


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[Assistant] That T Higgins scores the first touchdown of this game.


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[Assistant] And pulls up his jersey to reveal a Damar Hamlin, uh, shout out.


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[Assistant] T Higgins scores a touchdown at some point in this game and celebrates


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[Assistant] But now I'm really mad if it's the first touchdown and I backed off, but, but, and celebrates with some sort of, uh, shout out recognition.


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[Assistant] So do you think, that's the curious thing about this game too, like, do you think?


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[Assistant] That they will try to run the ball more to counteract the offensive line stuff, or do you think they'll just try to do the quick hitting passing stuff?


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[Assistant] Again, I know that we're sort of in on Zach Taylor now, mostly because of the way that they handled the...


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[Assistant] I mean, seriously, like that changed everyone's opinion of Zach Taylor. Like we're not, we're not clowning the guy anymore. And I do think that like that was an impressive leadership showing. Um, I do wonder about the,


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[Assistant] Offensive approach over here, because if you try to just pound your mix in the smudgy peerine against a decent Buffalo defense.


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[Assistant] With no offensive line, instead, like, I think they should just come out and let Joe Burrow, like, get the ball out quick and like sling it around.


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[Assistant] The, the other, the other thing too, I think that is interesting. Uh, Dom in the chat asks, uh, do you think the Bills fans will cheer the Bengals when they come out on the field? That's an interesting one. They should. Right. I mean, right. I don't, I don't know if they'll cheer right.


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[Assistant] And by the way, look, it's also worth pointing out here. Uh, the Bengals got screwed here. I know the Bills won more games. I get it. The Bills won more games than the Bengals did, but the Bengals.


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[Assistant] By virtue of a pure, selfless act of sportsmanship for another team.


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[Assistant] Sacrificed a chance to be hosting this divisional game in Cincinnati by beating the bills and getting the number two seed and the NFL, even though the game was canceled, this declined to do a neutral neutral field, even though they would have done that for Buffalo KC.


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[Assistant] The decline to give them a coin flip opportunity, which they were going to do with Cincinnati and Baltimore. And if I'm the Bengals.


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[Assistant] And I know we've heard the, the, the stuff coming out of the front office and leaking out Cincinnati. I'm still pissed about it. And I'm not saying you're mad about like the way that the game got canceled. I'm just mad that the NFL jammed, jammed us on the coin flip thing with Baltimore. They had to win that.


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[Assistant] And then jammed them again on having to go to Buffalo for a divisional round game that they didn't have a chance on the field to win home field advantage for. That's all I'm saying. Pickles fans.


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[Assistant] I got your back. Even if John Breach won't stand up against the NFL, he's too big a sycophant to Roger Goodell.


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[Assistant] If, if, if Buffalo has to go to KC and the Bengals just, and Baltimore has to go to Cincinnati, like just normal. No one's, I mean, everybody's like, you know what? That sucks, but it's, it's the deal.


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[Assistant] Fresh off taking all of my money and ruining my six game parlay and a potential chance of being perfect. Straight up picks in the first round of the playoffs by beating Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] For those who don't know, if you're watching this show at 1.30 or 2 o'clock, whatever time we're doing this on a Tuesday, you probably know that Wilson was once dragged.


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[Assistant] Niners minus three and a half, six thirty p.m. on Sunday evening over to forty six and a half. Sully, you're up first with the bowl predictions.


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[Assistant] Two, two games of two touchdowns, nine on the season for CD lamb, including, uh, actually there's not, that includes one last night.


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[Assistant] So including last night's touchdown, he had nine of the regular season. Why are these stats so hard to figure out? I had one last night, of course, he had


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[Assistant] One, two, three. He had one game with 150 yards or more. One, two, three, four, five games of a hundred plus yards. Uh, Dak missed some games, of course.


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[Assistant] Two touchdowns, one each way. It's called the CMC each way.


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[Assistant] Well he was, he kept going so I didn't know how far down that road we're gonna go. He throws a passing touchdown.


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[Assistant] And then they cut Robbie Golden and signed, recently cut, Brett Mayer. Brett Mayer. I don't know if he actually cut, I was kidding.


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[Assistant] See, this is, this is, this feels like, uhm, biased grading. Like, I feel like if Sully had thrown it out there, that's an A-. No, 100%. What?


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[Assistant] Harsh judging on Brinson, I find myself agreeing with this whining much to my chagrin. You know, that's, that happens a lot actually. Much to everyone's chagrin, they agree with my whining.


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[Assistant] Dallas, those are clearly going to shrink because they'll be one game away. And if they, and if the Giants and Alice, you guys think they might pull off the upset of Philadelphia, those would really shrink because the Niners would likely be in the playoffs. Wouldn't be favored over the chiefs of the bills, but you know, if they get like a good, like they might be favored to the Bengals. I'm just saying if you.


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[Assistant] If you think the Niners can get there, it's a decent value to take those bets now because


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[Assistant] You know, brat party doesn't feel like the Super Bowl MVP type CMC or D-Bow do.


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[Assistant] What was your, what was your final score? Breach, Breachbot? Cowboys over 49ers? I bet you did.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but before I do that, I do want to point out that, excuse me, in 1964, Keith Lincoln in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And in 1971, Ed Pudelak, 110 receiving yards and 85 rushing yards.


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[Assistant] Thank you. Obviously it wasn't an, it wasn't a, you know, it's 1964, it's before the merger. I give you a C plus, Wilson.


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[Assistant] It's not spike grading. I'm, I'm, I'm cheat grading. I'm moving you below me on the, on the grading scale. What does the C plus move reach to?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think when I did my wild card predictions, my super wild card predictions, I, I, I.


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[Assistant] That's every time there's an extra point in like a big spot that's minister like a field girl that's like shanked or rainy blokes on the TV. All I hear is that clip playing in my head. Sometimes I yell at my living room. All right, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We're back on, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, we're back tomorrow. Brady Quinn football show, of course. And then Thursday, we'll have the pick show at one o'clock with RJ and Pete for selling for reach for Wilson. I'm Brinson. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Welcome aboard. Not without you, brother. Uh, yeah, my bad. I, uh,


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[Assistant] I, I, I don't know why I thought we'd do, we'd do 330 before. We're transitioning out of the, out of the season mode. It's fine. We're all out of season. I apologize, Sully. Oh, you're good. Good job, are you fellas?


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[Assistant] We're talking about the Super Bowl odds with RJ, right? And it's like, you start looking at these Super Bowl odds for the, uh, for the NFC North and the Lions have the shortest odds of any team in the NFC North to win the Super Bowl, which Sully is absolutely bat-smelling insane to suggest that the Lions are the favorites to win this division or the favorites to win like, like the most likely team to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I mean, I do think that if you look at the rosters, like all the...


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[Assistant] All the rosters in the division, I think you could make the case that the Lions have the most balanced roster of all the teams in, in, in the OcDor.


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[Assistant] They are the favorite, but it's, it's, I think it's so hard to say this is a, this is a, you know, a Super Bowl contender. Like, I mean, I mean, I'm skeptical of them being the favorite. I think that the Vikings are probably,


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[Assistant] Like, if you, if you're like, if you're between the Vikings and the Lions right now, who wins the division, uh, your life is on the line. I'm probably, I would probably lean towards the Vikings, but I think the Lions will be the trendy pick, um, amongst most of the meteorite, media, I don't know what it would be, like the, whatever, whatever.


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[Assistant] I also think you can make the case that like, while the Vikings, I mean, one of the Lions, excuse me, have plenty of talent in terms of the receivers and the pass catchers that, you know, that this is a team that could go out and still add another pass catcher. Like I'm on, I'm on, I'm Ron St. Brown and Jameson Williams are studs. Uh, you know, they traded away T.J. Hockinson, like they still need, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, James and Williams just returned from like, you know, popping at the end of the season, right? I'm going to say Brown is an all pro, but like they do need, um, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, agreed. And it'll be interesting too, because this is a team that has, um, under Dan Campbell and the current regime built out, you know, from sort of the, the, you know, from the interior. And the other thing is they can say they like Jared golf all they want.


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[Assistant] You know, he's still not extremely old, but at some point, like they are going to have to take that plunge into the quarterback pool and try to pick one up in the draft as well. 100%.


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[Assistant] I would not disagree with you whatsoever. Um, okay. Moving along to the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Have we covered the Vikings? We covered the Vikings a little bit, yea. So Packers. Packers.


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[Assistant] I don't care. I mean, I'm going to shut up at the wrong time. Uh, the, uh, the, the Packers, like, I think they have a pretty clear,


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, if we're talking about strictly roster building, there's a lot of different things that they have to worry about. If we're talking about, um, you know, off season needs.


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[Assistant] I mean, let's, you know, let's take it as a global approach and say, look, they got to figure out what the hell they're going to do with the quarterback position. You know, where's Aaron Rodgers going to play? Is it Green Bay? Is it?


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[Assistant] Is he going to retire? What's going to happen with Aaron Rodgers? That's the question, Sully.


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[Assistant] No, remember they got, they had March 15th, I guess, or March-ish, like in, you know, the next month they have to pick up his fifth year option. Which is crazy that he's like, hasn't, I don't think he's, hasn't had a meaningful start outside of, you know, injury or whatever.


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[Assistant] Who's your quarterback? And once we get the, once you figure out who the quarterback is, who's your quarterback throwing to?


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[Assistant] And maybe you can pull that off by, you know, by trading Rogers and you get a receiver back or something like that.


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[Assistant] Okay, NFC West? NFC West. NFC West. We will start on the NFC West.


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[Assistant] They, I mean, they have to figure out the quarterback position. Do you just miss a free agent?


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[Assistant] Other teams have money and the Seahawks may not want to say, all right, you know, here's $30 million for three years. Like that's per year. Like that is a lot of money for Gina Smith where, you know, before you trade for.


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[Assistant] You know, you signed Gino as your backup, you traded Russell Wilson, and now Gino is your starter and he's on his cheap, he's on his cheap backup contract. And you know, you sort of use the moneyball approach that teams like to do with the, you know, with the rookie contract, right? Where you're paying a quarterback of a very low sum and you're getting the most out of him. When you're paying Gino Smith $30 million a year, it changes the calculus of what you're expecting from your quarterback.


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[Assistant] Do you have to go find a quarterback? You have to figure out like, is Trey Lance a good quarterback?


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[Assistant] Oh, the back end too. Actually, they need to worry. They got a bunch of free agents in the back end. So they're gonna have to worry about that. But the quarterback position here for the 49ers, absolutely key.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the core is coming back, right? You never know. It's like year to year with these guys, whether it's Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay, Aaron Donnell, whether they're going to all come back. They need some help on the front on the, on the, uh, on the defensive and the defensive backfield and really upfront on defense. Like they have everything they need on offense, I think between Cooper cup and Alan Robinson and then of course Stafford. And if you trust K makers now, the question is, you know, can they, can this offensive line improve and.


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[Assistant] Can they get, you know, can they be good enough on defense with this core of stars that they like to roll with?


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[Assistant] RJ had a good point on the Superbowl pod last week. It seemed to win the Superbowl two years ago.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't be, it's like, you know, it's like, oh, the ribs stink. It's like, well, they did win the Superbowl 35 to 1 to win the Superbowl this year. Um, if, if they were able to flip the offensive line around and get better at that spot, the Air Storm McBray, like they have the coaching Stafford.


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[Assistant] I gave them a pass for last year. I'll be very curious to see what kind of, you know, sort of retooling they do this offseason. I don't think that it's a full-blown rebuild for them. If they really, with that core, you just can't like restart.


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[Assistant] Yup, uh, finally Arizona Cardinals very quickly. They need Kyler Murray to get healthy. Jonathan Gannon, new head coach, recently hired. Uhm, they are, they have some secondary free agents in the defensive side of the ball that they need to worry about. The offensive line though is a, it's a big problem too. Three free agents on that offensive line. So that's, I mean like, you don't know when Kyler's coming back. You know that Kyler's not going to be healthy right away. You need that offensive line to protect him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of different, a lot of moving parts with the Arizona Cardinals. Alright, the, uh, with the first big podcast is coming up now live on our YouTube channel, Ryan Wilson, Rick Spielman. Check that out, uh, for Sully. I'm Brinson. Thanks for, uh, thanks for holding on to the fort, Sully. My bad on that. We will talk to you guys later. See ya. Bye.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what, let's get straight to my four early best bets for week 16. Number one, I am going to keep riding the Cincinnati Bengals. Uh, they are an early three and a half point favorite over the New England Patriots. That game is in Foxboro.


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[Assistant] On Saturday, Christmas Eve. And remember, the games, most of them are being played on Saturday this week. Hey, welcome back, Rinson.


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[Assistant] Anyway, sorry, go ahead. At Brinton, there are other, uh, internet browsers.


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[Assistant] You can just throw chrome under the bus. No, so, so, uh, I was just talking about how most of the games this week are being played on Christmas Eve. Yep. So a lot of Saturday games, more than usual.


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[Assistant] And then three Christmas games, then your normal Thursday game, normal Monday game, and my first best bet, which I was also getting to, is Bengals. They are currently favored three and a half over the Patriots. Uh, and look.


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[Assistant] We saw what happened on Sunday against the Buccaneers. The Bengals played probably their worst first half of the season and still won by double digits. Still covered the spread.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we saw what happened to the Patriots where they played


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[Assistant] Right. I mean, this thing, it damages their playoff hopes badly. Both teams are going to be desperate because the Bengals want to stay in front of the Ravens for the AFC North title. They want to stay in the running for the number one overall seed. Uh, but you know what, Princeton, the Cincinnati Bengals have the best record against the spread.


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[Assistant] In the NFL this year, and I'm gonna keep riding the bangles train, uh, so I like Cincinnati here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, and, and, well, there is, uhm,


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[Assistant] Your logic isn't crazy to keep thinking like that because think, you know, like the Patriots should have won Sunday. That's, that's really what it comes. It took two crazy things happening and crazy things happen in the NFL. So I don't think you can discount week 15 Sunday, by the way.


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[Assistant] Right. And so I don't think you can discount that thinking, but yes, eventually you do have to get to the point and say, look, it's just one team is way more talented than the other team. It doesn't matter who the other team's coach is, the much more talented team should win and cover.


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[Assistant] So what's up next for you, Preacherson? Oof, gotta take a sip of water between so I can keep talking. I should have recognized you were drinking water. Number two one here is the Raiders going to Pittsburgh! And two and a half point underdogs here.


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[Assistant] We talked about this a little bit last week when we took the Raiders over the pit. The Raiders are one of the hottest teams in the NFL. They have won four of their past five games. Sure. It took a miracle, uh, in Vegas on Sunday to beat the Patriots, but a win is a win. And so now they're getting a Steelers team. And Brent, you just talked about how the Patriots only beat up on bad teams. You want a fun fact about the Steelers?


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[Assistant] So when they have played any team outside the NFC South, they are most likely losing. So basically when they play a good team, uh, they're usually used losing. I just think the Raiders have a better offense. You would take Dare to Carve or whatever quarterback the Steelers put out there, whether it's Kenny Pickett, Trevisky.


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[Assistant] Uh, and maybe even Mason Rudolph. Uh, you would take Devonte Adams over the Steelers number one receiver. You would take Josh Jacobs over the Steelers top running back. So it's just like, I feel like the Raiders are a slightly better team. The weather here does scare me. I think it's going to be 15, 16 degrees. I don't love Derek Carr in the cold weather.


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[Assistant] But, Josh McDaniel's coach for so long in New England, he'll coach Derek up and be like, look man, this is what we gotta do if we're gonna win in cold weather. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna ride the Raiders.


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[Assistant] The long snapper got injured. And it's the end of the game that would have won it. And then, uh, Miss Field went overtime.


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[Assistant] I don't know which actor that is. I know. Uh, what's the next? Uh, next up, the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] 10 point underdogs against the Chiefs. Look, uh, here's a fun fact for you Brinton. The last 15 games this season where there has been a double digit underdog


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[Assistant] The underdog has gone 12 and three against the spread. It is just every team is so even out. We saw it on Sunday. The chiefs were favored by 14 and a half over the Texans went to overtime. We saw it the week before the Texans and the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Double digits, still close, it's just, you don't see blowouts as often, and when we do see blowouts, it's with in games where you don't suspect it to happen, so.


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[Assistant] These, these double-digit point spread games, it just seems like it's smarter to take the underdog. And also, the Seahawks are gonna be playing for their season. They are 7-7. If they lose here, their playoff hopes are pretty much out the door. So I think they're gonna be pretty desperate, and I think they're gonna keep this close. I don't think I'm gonna pick them to win, but I do think they can keep it within 10.


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[Assistant] Ah, Buccaneers are favored by three and a half over the Arizona Cardinals on Christmas Day, you would think.


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[Assistant] After watching what happened against the Bengals on Sunday, that I would say far, far away from Tampa Bay, but no!


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[Assistant] I'm gonna ride Tom Brady and the Buccaneers and I am gonna say they cover on Christmas Day against the Cardinals. Look, what we saw from the Buccaneers in the first half where they started using motion, Tom Brady was sniffing out the defenses. They looked pretty dominant. They didn't totally melt down the third quarter. They probably beat the Bengals or at least it goes 34-31 or something crazy.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so that first half Buccaneers team, I think that's what we'll see against the Cardinals. The Cardinals don't have a great offensive, even if the Buccaneers turn it over twice.


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[Assistant] Arizona can't take advantage of that. You know, Colt McCoy's banged up. They just got beat up by the Broncos.


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[Assistant] And you know what Tampa Bay really, really finally actually needs to win a game because their lead in the NFC South is dwindled down to one game. Everybody tied for second place at five and nine. They have the Buccaneers at six and eight. So they really can't afford any more losses before they kind of could afford it. So they weren't as desperate as I think they'll be on Christmas day. I think they rolled the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're gonna have a Christmas show next Monday. I need, I need to get my lights on. Turn my...


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[Assistant] I am mixed on it just because the Saints, you know, they beat the Falcons and now they're only one game out of first place. So there might be a sense of desperation there. Andy Dalton's familiar with the Browns.


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[Assistant] 13-1 and 13 against AFC North teams this year. I don't have the exact number, but I believe that is the number. Uh, and that's pretty ugly. So, uh, you know, if they're one in 13, that proves that's kind of a trend. And that's where you say, you know what? Probably win the Browns over the Panthers in week one. No, the, the, the, the NFC South only has one win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that. I mean, a 13 in one team, or 12 in one, or whatever they are, 13 in one. As an underdog, I just don't think that's gonna last long. You have, I know the Cowboys are a popular bet because they are America's team, but I think that common sense will eventually take over. People are gonna start hammering the Eagles, and yeah, I agree with that. The Eagles probably close as the favorite here.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean that wouldn't be surprising at all. And this is a Christmas Day game. Uh, and like you said, if the Packers lose on Monday and they're totally out of it, that's gotta give them incentive to play Jordan Love on Christmas Day. Uh, yeaah, I could absolutely see that.


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[Assistant] You know what? The Rams are a team, as long as Baker Mayfield's their quarterback, they're a team that's going to play hard, like they're still in it, because Baker Mayfield wants to win. He's got a lot to prove. You have all these guys out there, you know, so many starters are injured. All those guys out there have a lot to prove too, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I could absolutely see the Rams, although Rams Broncos is such a weird Christmas game that I love that it's a Nickelodeon game. That is, I will definitely be watching on Nickelodeon because that will be the, that's the type of game that needs to be on Nickelodeon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not touching the Colts anymore for the rest of the season. I'm not even offering an opinion on them. I don't want to talk anything about the Colts.


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[Assistant] Are you cleanly cut, Breach? You look about normal, except that, uh, your hair looks a little bit, like you maybe brushed it slightly after that crazy game?


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[Assistant] I had a quote that I wrote down at the end of this game.


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[Assistant] Uh, after that last play, which looked like something that you would draw up at a Thanksgiving get together with your family when you, you know, knew that you were going to lose. Uh, tell me if you know the movie. Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber.


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[Assistant] Dumb and dumber. You go out and do something like this and totally redeem yourself. I mean, that last play a year ago...


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[Assistant] We talked about that for months. And then the comeback was to have Zeke Elliott play center.


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[Assistant] Get absolutely steamrolled when he snapped the ball, and then throw a short pass that gets tackled for a five or six yard game. Like, what are you doing?


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[Assistant] No, you have to have seven guys in line to scrimmage, so it just doesn't matter where they are.


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[Assistant] Because uhm, they talk about this on the telecast. Against pressure, Dak Prescott has done more interceptions than any other person on planet earth. He had 10 this season.


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[Assistant] And right when they said that late in the game, he almost did an interception on the first, I think the first throw of the last drive there on just a little turnaround, 10 yard pass that was late. He threw a lot late. He missed a lot of throws down the field, either under throw or just missed the target that he was trying to hit.


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[Assistant] I don't know, and, you know, Billy said this before the pod, that seems to get cut a lot of slack, and I think that's right. I don't know if people are focused on Jerry Jones or Mike McCarthy, or, you know, the fact that he's done all these commercials and he smiles and says all the right things, but, mmm. Black Party wasn't lights out, Black Party outplayed him.


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[Assistant] Sort of look at Brandon Staley take our last stand, game of thrones style, uh, style. But Jerry's been committed to him. I don't think he's going to fire him. And at the end of the day, I would imagine that play probably worked every time in practice. Unfortunately, the 49ers have a pretty good defense and they weren't going to


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the graphic, if you're watching YouTube, finish 12-5 and back to back seasons. We give, again, we give Dak a lot of, cut him a lot of slack. Mike McCarthy, we give a lot of crap too, but they did go 12-5 and back to back seasons. Now they're not winning playoff games. I don't disagree with that. And they sort of feel like, uh, the original.


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[Assistant] Current Minnesota Vikings in that, you know, their lights out and then things fall apart in January. But I mean, they're not the, the bears or the lions either.


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[Assistant] Would you rather have Dak, uh, on this football team, Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins? Dak Prescott. I don't know if I would answer that quickly. I just don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm not, I can't believe I'm gonna say this, other than the last two calls of the...


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[Assistant] Andy Dalton, you know, reaches dude. And then last year they had Jameis Winston who played the best of his career.


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[Assistant] Now, obviously Dak is better than both those guys put together, but how much more are you getting from Dak when Sean Payton shows up? Who, by the way, as we, you know, we have to point out, he went 7-9 three straight seasons in New Orleans. So it wasn't like he, he's going to come in and win 15 games automatically.


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[Assistant] Someone mentioned this in the comments, what about this? Instead of Sean Payton, what about if you move heaven and earth to get Lamar?


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[Assistant] And he can't, well he can throw the football, he played quarterback, but I don't think he wanted to play quarterback.


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[Assistant] No, I think you hit it on the head. I actually made a note right before the Christian McCaffrey touchdown.


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[Assistant] On that drive, he made some throws, so you're like, okay, you're trying to do too much, which is sort of the knock on them coming out of Iowa State this final year there. And you saw at times where...


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[Assistant] Early in the game, Shanahan was, you know, sort of like, all right, just do what I'm asking you to do. Don't be, don't be doing trying to do too much. And I'm fine giving him a pass on that though. As you point out, he's a rookie. He hasn't played a ton. He wasn't expected to play at all. We didn't know he's going to make the freaking team back in August. So all this stuff is, you know, gravy, uh, given where they are and.


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[Assistant] Pardon me, Wonders Breach, if this sort of waters down what Garoppolo accomplished a year ago. Cause, you know, we were all like, oh my God, Jimmy Garoppolo is going to get paid. And then the Tray Lance thing happened, uhm, in terms of him being the starter this year.


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[Assistant] I think it's more of a function of anyone can play in the system and be pretty good. Now that doesn't bode well for Trey Lance perhaps, so that's a conversation for another time. But, you know, hats off to Brock Purdy for taking care of business and he still made some big throws and he made much bigger throws in terms of completing them than Dak Prescott did.


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[Assistant] Eagle's defense is better than the Cowboys, which as you pointed out, actually played really well.


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[Assistant] Bridge, let me ask you quickly, I wrote this down, uh, after our poor dude Mar- Mar mis- that- that extra point to start things. And he missed it so poor, I mean he got blocked, but he missed it. It was going left anyway, it looked like in the replay.


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[Assistant] How rare is it to get an extra point block from 33 yards? Because when you're talking about a 50 or 55 yarder, you're trying to drive the ball. Like an extra point is virtually for these guys at chip shots. So the ball should be going straight up. So is it more mental than anything? Because that, that was a bad miss.


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[Assistant] So Dalton Schultz is the reason we can blame that final play where Zeke Elliott had to play center because otherwise the ball would have been 20 yards further up the field. You have a comedy of errors down the last. Dalton Schultz started some of them. I mean, Tarpen caught the ball the six yard line on that final drive. I don't know why you're doing that.


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[Assistant] I mean, in terms of guys responsible for why they lost, I think that Marr is pretty low on the list, and McCarthy, by the way, Jerry Jones said after the game that McCarthy's job is...


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[Assistant] Well, one of the things that we talked about was the Bill's run defense being sort of unreliable in recent weeks, in addition to Josh Allen not being Josh Allen. And those things together, to your point, Breach, showed up early and often because primarily with the running the ball by the Bengals and Joe Mixon there. Uhm, but to your point, those first two drives,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Bengals had 100 yards, uhm, of offense. They had 160 yards in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] I mean, that, that tells you all you need to know. And the bills had eight. And the bills had eight. And something I wrote down that I wanted to ask you, because I actually think that I, I know what the answer to this question is, but I'll ask you, is this Bingle's team better than last year's Bingle's team?


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[Assistant] They played so well that I think Zach Taylor might be a good coach.


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[Assistant] By the way, I will give Zach Taylor props for this because last week, Mike McDale screwed up what he thought was going to be a first and 10, it was third and one, didn't get the play in and they had to go back five yards and then Skylar Thompson didn't have a chance.


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[Assistant] Same thing happened at the goal line or close to the goal line. They got the play off. There was, he was pissed that he didn't reset it. I get it. But he's like, all right, well, I got to call the play. They call the play and maybe the difference having a quarterback like Joe burrow. It doesn't matter. I give Zach Taylor credit for that. And look, man, he's been doing what he's supposed to be doing. So I can't complain about, about what the results have been because you know, hats off to him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I can't believe Joe Burrow was only sacked one time.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen was only sacked once, but he felt like he was running for his life. And again, I don't know how that elbow is. If we find out he has elbow surgery in two weeks, that wouldn't surprise me. But Breach, let me ask you, who is your MVP on the defensive side of the ball? And I have some names for you. Cam Taylor Britt, my guy, Mike Hilton, former Steeler, Trey Hendrickson, or someone else that you want to put in there.


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[Assistant] By the way, Breach, this game could have been even worse. I'm looking back to my notes here.


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[Assistant] Your MVP, Mike Hilton had that corner, corner blitz 10 minutes into the fourth quarter that looked like a fumble. For some reason, it wasn't a fumble. Henderson recovers, they will get the ball there. And then early in the game in the first half, when


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[Assistant] Uhm, Jamar Chase was inches close to catching that touchdown in the back of the end zone. It was actually a great play by Matt Malone. I think it was the right call, even though people were angry about it. But that could have made it 21 to 7 instead of 17 to 7. And the route could have been on. The Bills were out of timeouts with seven minutes to go. That's how out of hand things were for that team.


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[Assistant] Innocent bystander and someone with no interest in the game in terms of who won. I knew that the game was over. It felt like after the first two series. So you mentioned that drop early in the game breach, uh, in the third, just late in the third quarter, 11 seconds ago, um, Cam Taylor Britt, who I didn't love coming out. I thought he was a little stiff, but he has been balling out. Shout out to him for, for playing well and the Bengals for taking them in the second round. But typically when guys get beat.


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[Assistant] They just tackled the receiver down the field. Gabe Davis had the ball hit his hands. He should have caught it.


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[Assistant] And as soon as the ball got there, he just, you know, basically punched him in where the ball was supposed to be for one of the best pass breakups that I've seen over the course of this playoffs, maybe over the course of the last few months. That was a great play, especially for a rookie.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Bengals territory at the end of the third quarter and they score there, it could be a different ball game.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you exactly what the success rate is according to the Binbot. Uh, success rate for going for it on 4th and 6th from the 16 yards, sorry, yard line with 732 to go in the 4th quarter, 37%.


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[Assistant] Uh, the field goal attempt obviously 92%. The win percentage, if you succeed on going forward is, it goes from 3% to 5%. And on the field goal attempt, attempt it goes from, it remains at about 2%.


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[Assistant] So I think the, I get it. I'm fine. I don't care. Had they kicked there, I'd have been fine with it. But I think the, at that point in the game down that many, you're basically SOL, I think is the sort of the takeaway from the math nerds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, that, uh, I don't, uh, it looked like it was a, was it a Santa Claus mask? I don't know what it was. It looked like a mop with the, uh, face cut out so you could see where you were walking.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, let me ask you quickly, Ryan Adams in the comments asks, is Joe Burrow better than Josh Allen?


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[Assistant] By the way, if you're watching on YouTube, as Breach mentioned, you can see what Stefan Dix was wearing, his little toboggan ski mask thing. Maybe he was yelling at Josh Allen because it apparently cost $530 from Burberry and he was asking for some money because that's an insane amount of money to pay for something to put on your head not to be cold.


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[Assistant] Breach, where was your heart when Shaq Lawson went low on Joe Burrow?


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[Assistant] After the game, I don't know if you were already celebrating with no clothes on, but Shaq Lawson and Joe Burrow hugged and Shaq actually said, my bad. Like he didn't mean to tackle them low or they have a, I'm sure they have a history. Seemed like they knew each other. Uh, but I thought that was interesting. And Romo also said, Brinson sort of pointed out, pointed out, he said, there's no certainty that my home's actually plays either, which I thought was interesting.


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[Assistant] Maybe best case. So I don't know, man. This is going to be, this is going to be a tall hill to climb for the chiefs. Maybe the chiefs will use like the old school Rodney Harrison slash Bill Belichick slash New England Patriots motivation from the early 2000s when no one thought they were terrible and everyone thought they were going to win and still try to convince themselves that people think they're terrible as a way to motivate themselves.


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[Assistant] I think it's noteworthy, we didn't talk a lot about it, uh, Brenton mentioned Hill, I mentioned DJ Reader, uh, they were getting home with four guys consistently.


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[Assistant] So I don't know if the Bills offensive line is any better or worse than the Chiefs. I imagine they're probably similarly ranked. Uhm, I haven't started them closely, but my overall point is that if you're still just rushing four guys and having Lou Anarumo blitzing guys from, from places that people don't expect and Josh Allen, you know, he ain't Brock Birdie out there. He's been playing for a while and even he seemed to be fooled at times, uh, and took a ton of hits as a result.


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[Assistant] I mean, that might be the great neutralizer, especially if Patrick Mahomes has to play on one leg.


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[Assistant] Let me point out quickly, because people in the comments pointed out that the Chiefs line is better than the Bills. I just checked the advanced stats for football outsiders. The Chiefs are fifth in terms of pass protection in that offensive line, and the Bills are actually seventh. And some of that obviously has to do with the quarterback's mobility for both teams. In terms of running the ball, the Bills are actually better, which is sort of surprising.


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[Assistant] But uhm, alright, so I don't think there's a huge... It's going to be two great games. I mean, that's about a lot. Huge gaping chasm between the two offensive lines, but the point remains. Also, update here, bad news for me, because my only team remaining in the Super Bowl pool are the Chiefs. My quarterback's all banged up. Breach has one team left. He's Bingles.


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[Assistant] Brenton has the Eagles remaining and that's it. And Caleb, by virtue of Breach's Bengals winning, is now down only to the 49ers.


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[Assistant] Robert Thomas in the comments asked about bold takes that comes Tuesday afternoon. So don't miss it.


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[Assistant] I think a good piece of it, and you know, if you want to go back to...


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[Assistant] Why it started four games ago and, and what was kind of the genesis of what happened.


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[Assistant] I think that this is a lot to say about D'Amico Ryans, the defensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers. And one of the reasons why he's going to be one of the hottest coaching candidates this cycle this year is how they defended Tua in this Miami offense and how the other teams following that game have done that. Basically what they've done.


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[Assistant] And so you do press coverage at the line of scrimmage with your speedy ride receivers, kind of throw the rhythm off there, drop back into zone.


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[Assistant] That is thrown to a off to an ultimate degree as you were saying with those stats and you've seen the teams after that do that. The Chargers have done it. The Bills have done it. I didn't watch a ton of specifically what they were doing with it with the Green Bay Packers yesterday, but


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[Assistant] It feels like that's the mold that Demiko Ryans has made. These other teams have followed it and Tua has been following because of it.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think so, and ultimately maybe this streak kind of brings down the price from him a little bit, but I do think that what we saw earlier in the year does eliminate the


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[Assistant] Are they going to get rid of him? Is he the guy? I think that what we've seen so far guarantees him getting a contract staying in Miami for at least the next, for the foreseeable future. It's just what does that contract look like?


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[Assistant] I don't know, does he, does he feel like to you and again, it's money, everybody get as much as you possibly can, but does he seem like somebody who's gonna go to them and say, I want top tier quarterback money? It doesn't feel like, I feel like you could, there's a, there's somewhere to be, to be met there in the middle.


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[Assistant] That we even kind of, we've talked about this in prior podcasts when we're talking about Tuatanga, right before that west coast trip going out to San Francisco, Los Angeles, and then eventually Buffalo before they went down to Miami.


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[Assistant] It's not like they were playing world beaters by any stretch of the imagination. You look at those four games prior to that trip.


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[Assistant] It's the Detroit Lions who at the time were not great defensively.


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[Assistant] The Chicago Bears, who we all know are not great defensively. The Cleveland Browns, they've been up and down this season, and then the Houston Texans. Through that stretch, I mean in one game against Detroit, he was completing over 80% of his passes. That's great, that's super efficient.


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[Assistant] But it's also, we are getting a look at when he's now playing legitimate playoff competition. You know, Green Bay, we don't know if they're actually going to make the playoffs or not.


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[Assistant] You're going up against a San Francisco 49ers defense that is the elite unit in the NFL. And that's what he needs to be measured towards. It doesn't, it can't be a week eight game against Detroit when Detroit's on a downward swing.


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[Assistant] If he wants to have that contract, if he wants to be looked at as the franchise guy with no questions asked, it's those games against the Chargers, it's those games against the 49ers that you have to put a little bit more weight on.


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[Assistant] Right, and so yeaah, I'm not moving heaven and earth to try to bring in Tom Brady or any quarterback that could become available. But that was the discussion going into this season. It was make or break to uh, is he going to be the guy or...


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[Assistant] Do you just kinda, you know, blow it up and go after a Brady or a Garoppolo or somebody who, you know, whoever else becomes available in a trade or something along those lines?


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[Assistant] It was 60, and I'll tell you this, it was in the 80s going into that game yesterday.


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[Assistant] I think, I think you would, because that would suggest to you that, again, two wouldn't blow up in your face, and it actually worked. And Michael McDaniel is a good first year head coach, unlike the guy that we did an emergency podcast about, Nathaniel Hackett, earlier today.


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[Assistant] And so that's the thing about this too that I think is worth pointing out is I want to see Tua and Mike McDaniel in year two. There has been so much


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[Assistant] Pretty much no questions asked. We are this combination. And so that to me, I think is important here when we have that quarter, that quarterback conversation with Tua. He's the future right over the next couple of years, but I want to see him enhance his value with Mike McDaniel.


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[Assistant] Exactly, we're in that same school of thought, but it's at New England and then at home against the New York Jets.


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[Assistant] Tua is phenomenal against the New England Patriots, so that should be- He's never lost in the military, right? I believe he's never lost. I know that they're 4-0 against the spread.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach, did you know we've decided to give me my own podcast because Princeton refuses to make this read with the first pick?


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[Assistant] With the first pick is a new NFL draft pod hosted by me and NFL GM Rick Spielman. Anyway, we do it every Monday, 2 PM live. You can find it at wherever you get your podcast. The World Cup final was amazing and it was a


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[Assistant] Electric has set the stage for another great day of American football after a wonderful, uh, international football game as they call it.


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[Assistant] Well, they're both still in the playoffs, so that's good. I mean, Washington lost, and that tie, Breach has talked about it for weeks now. That tie is gonna help whichever team lost this game, so that's why Washington's still there.


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[Assistant] Uh, ahead of, of Seattle and some team called the Lions who are both at seven and seven. So, you know, destiny in your own hands, all sorts of that other sort of conversation. Uh, but I think for New York, you sort of hit on it. I think that, you know, this team has been playing.


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[Assistant] Well above their means the entire season. I think a lot of credit goes to Joe Shane and more importantly, Brian Dable because


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[Assistant] And you know, I don't mean this as any disrespect to the previous coaching staffs in New York, but Brian Dable apparently is very special when it comes to, uh, quarterback whispering it up. We saw it obviously in Buffalo and we're seeing it with Daniel Jones, who, who looks like an NFL starting quarterback and one who's going to, uh, get paid in some fashion to stay in New York, I would imagine. But in the meantime, they lost to their last three and the other game, uh, three of the last four, excuse me.


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[Assistant] And the other game was a tie with the aforementioned commanders two weeks ago. So this was a huge win for them. And it just looked like they were struggling to score points and that the offense was sort of flatlining and all those comeback wins they had early in the year where they just sort of pulled the rabbit out of their hat in the last 10 or 15 minutes. Those things weren't materialized. And then this week,


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[Assistant] Several people that, that, you know, we've worked with or used to work with are Giants fans tweeted something to the effect of, uh, that Giants drive, which I think was like 15 plays or whatever it was, uh, was the best drive we've seen in like a decade. And I think...


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[Assistant] That's the takeaway and the other takeaway for me Breach is that I feel like every week we yo-yo up or yo-yo down based on how the team played for those 60 minutes, but I think it's now time to start taking a larger look and that could even include the Dolphins based on how they played and we'll talk about that in a little bit.


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[Assistant] I think this team has not punched their playoff ticket, but they're in fantastic shape without looking at Steven O's latest simulations, which I'm guessing he's doing as we speak.


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[Assistant] Let me just interrupt you quickly. Not only did he throw the flag, he threw the flag the millisecond the ball was snapped. He couldn't point to where he wanted


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[Assistant] Uh, McLaurin to be because he was trying to fumble around to find his flag. I will say this, not in defense of the official, but McLaurin wasn't quite on the line of scrimmage, but the guy who was in the slot was a step behind him. So if you're using that as your guide, number one,


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[Assistant] McLauren was in front of him. Number two, to your point, just tell him to move up like officials do all the time. It was a weird flex.


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[Assistant] Maybe they want it this way because clearly it's a billion dollar industry and you know, I'm at the point and maybe the NFL, this is what they want. I am out of F's to give. Look, I can't waste any more energy on it because nothing's going to change. And maybe the NFL just wants people to get tired of it and go on to something else because this has been going on. How many years ago was the past interference in the Saints game? I mean, how long ago was that? Four or five years?


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[Assistant] Nothing's changed and I don't think you could argue things have gotten better. It feels like things have maintained or gotten worse and, you know, I don't, I mean, why can't you have cameras everywhere? Why is that so difficult? And why can't you...


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[Assistant] The other thing, Breaks, you were talking about, you weren't crazy about the way the offense of the Giants worked. I would point out that Richie James was the leading receiver and Isaiah Hodgson is who they got off the Bills practice squad, was the second leading receiver and then Saquon Barkley. So, Dale Jones has no one to throw the ball to and I feel like if they, if he had more opportunities,


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, that's a good problem to have. It ain't like his name's Andy Dalton or anything.


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[Assistant] Trevor Reginald Lawrence III. Is that his real name? No, but it would be awesome.


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[Assistant] Sponsored by BetterHelp. Uh, tell me, tell me my take. So I know it first, so I can...


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[Assistant] I can't refute any of those things. Uhm, I said, I asked you in week four or five or six or seven, should we be worried about Justin Fields? Uh, Justin Fields. We should be worried about him because he's not going to live much longer. We should be worried about Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] And after that, he's been playing lights out. I didn't hate Trevor Lawrence. I didn't certainly didn't think he should be benched for Gardner Minshew when they trade him back from Philadelphia for a third round pick back to Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] I'm just asking questions because he wasn't playing well, but I think you were right. Urban Meyer apparently is not good for your NFL future. And he, he set that poor man back, poor young man back. So he is back on track and he.


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[Assistant] Man, I watched a lot of the game today. He outplayed Dak Prescott by a country mile, as they say in North Carolina. I mean, good for him. He had one bad interception, came right back.


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[Assistant] Um, matriculated the ball down the field, made some plays with his legs. He did have that, that fumble that could approve costly, but it was only him trying to hustle. He had just gotten the first down. He was close to the getting into field goal range and he got hit from behind and unlucky play from, from trying hard. So yeah, I mean.


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[Assistant] Actually, I wrote down in my notes, I said, this team is what I say. Basically this team is, um, next year they're going to be a playoff team and you could argue. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I was never down on much questions. I mean, you know.


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[Assistant] And when you have the Charger social media team, you don't need to do anything anyway because they will take care of the ravaging.


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[Assistant] That's where I'm at. I mean, not, not that I have a ton of faith in Tennessee. I just don't, I just mentioned this. I don't like to get on the yo-yo roller coaster. I get on it. I don't want to get on it anymore of going back and forth week in and week out of saying these teams are good and bad. And then just having my hopes and dreams crushed each and every Sunday night.


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[Assistant] So I, I don't know who the Jacksonville Jaguars are. Here's the, let me ask you this, Breach. Who do you trust more? The Titans or the Jaguars?


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[Assistant] So, the good news is, well maybe it's not good news. I mean, the Texans are playing incredibly hard. They almost beat the Chiefs and they almost won last week too, I think. So, Tennessee plays Houston at home, then they get the Cowboys and they finish with Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, that feels like one in three to me. One, one in one. But the Jaguars are at the Jets, at the aforementioned Texans.


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson didn't, didn't do much in terms of playing. I thought that was okay. He, okay, well he ain't better than Michael.


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[Assistant] I don't feel good about him going against your boy Trevor Lawrence. I'm putting it to you that way. I will take the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I'm actually now looking at the schedule and considering the Tana Hills injury and just the way it feels like the Titans are letting this thing slip away. Maybe I'm leaning towards the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Love em. You guys are trying to bury my guy Brandon Staley? They're playing well?


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[Assistant] So they're 8 and 6, they're the 6th seed, they're ahead of the Dolphins, and actually they're pretty close in terms of...


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[Assistant] No, they've won six to seven for the first time since 2014. It feels like it should be like 2000 or 1914, but, um, yeah, they're playing, they're playing well. And you mentioned the defense starting to step up and.


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson had 317 yards, uh, 18 and 35. Probably four of those throws that were deep completions were just jump balls in which he got lucky. He had a terrible interception in the third quarter. Jared Goff, meanwhile, continues to ball out.


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[Assistant] No interceptions. I don't think he had any fumbles. He did not. So no turnovers for Jared Goff yet again. Continues to make really good decisions and.


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[Assistant] They went for it on fourth and inches on their own 49 yard lines with two minutes to go.


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[Assistant] It was 20 to 17 Detroit at the time. Brock freaking right. They don't run the ball.


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[Assistant] So Jerichoff drops back, 62 quarterback snake. He drops back like, Oh my God, he's going to sack. This game's going to turn. Nope. Finds Brock freaking right. Who rumbles 51 yards, virtually untouched. I don't even know if he got touched in that play into the end zone. Uh, for, for the, the game deciding the game sort of convincing, uh, score and then the jets.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to get back into it, and Zerline honked a 58 yard field goal at the buzzer there, uhm, to make it 20, to remain 2017. It was 17-13, excuse me, the Jets were up when they scored on that fourth and inches.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're exactly right. No one wants to play the Giants. Uh, this is the Lions, excuse me. Omarosa, yeah, Amon Ross St. Brown is balling out. Uh, DeAndre Swift had a good game. Jamal Williams is doing his thing. Uh, I mean,


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[Assistant] There's a lot to like about this team and credit to Dan Campbell, who I would imagine is the front runner for coach of the year, for, um, coach of the year.


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[Assistant] I think part of it, I don't know how they vote on this, part of it has to do with carryover from last year. Like the Eagles won in the playoffs last year. San Francisco was good. Kevin O'Connell.


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[Assistant] So Breach, the Jets are now seven and seven, the Lions are now seven and seven, both are ninth in their respective conferences. The Lions have the hurdle of the Giants and Washington being in front of them, both with a tie. But which team?


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[Assistant] And in your mind, when you do your little breach rain man analytics, has the best chance of finding their way inside the playoff bubble.


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[Assistant] I'm laughing Breach because the next to last play of the game was fourth and 18 and Zach Wilson runs around like he's, he's being chased down an alley and throws up another arm punt. Elijah Moore catches for 19 yards and time had run off.


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[Assistant] No, the Jets conversation makes sense. The other, the 13-1 team losing in the first round, that team does not feel good about it. The Jets are overachieving in Breach's, to Breach's point. Same with the Lions.


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[Assistant] Perhaps 100%, like he's pr- like I- like we gotta go see him for Christmas, and I'm like, ugh. He's gonna have some stupid fun.


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[Assistant] So you feel much better now about two weeks from now going to Gillette Stadium in face of the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the wins over Wilson line for this, this Dolphins-Bills game was like minus twelve and a half.


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[Assistant] Buffalo. Before the game. And obviously...


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[Assistant] It was much closer than that. So yeaah, I think you do have to feel a lot better about it. And that's, that's great news for Miami. I was obviously very concerned because when you take heaters to LA, which they did the week before against the Chargers, when it's 55 degrees, you're like, okay, well these guys clearly are mentally not there, but they were.


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[Assistant] Uh, more concerned as much as you can be about two of the best teams to AFC. More concerned with the Bills or the Chiefs with how they're playing now in terms of consistency.


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[Assistant] It does because the Texans find a way, whatever the game, whether it's going four quarters or overtime, the last two plays, the Texas is going to shoot themselves in the foot and then they're going to stand up and try to get to the phone and they're going to shoot themselves in the face. So Casey punted the ball in overtime.


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[Assistant] The very next play, Davis Dumbass Mills fumbles the ball. The very next play after that, I think McKinnon rips one off for the game winning touchdown and overtime.


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[Assistant] And they just got rid of Jackie Easterby. And I think maybe that, whatever Paul that was over the organization, perhaps that's that, that fog is clearing. They did play hard for David Cullen, knew that about it, but they're playing hard for Lovey. And I think the takeaway is if you hire the right coach withers. Give me a good the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] They have another first round pick as well. So hopefully they get like an offensive lineman or a wide receiver or an edge rusher. When you, when you win one game, you can draft anyone to get better. So, uh, last year they, they did a good job with their picks and they do a good job this year with their, cause they had two last year too.


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[Assistant] That's the best use of that clip yet. Good job, Billy. So, Breach, they're down 17.5 as you mentioned, and I ask you this occasionally because the bingles typically aren't down anymore. Were you worried at any point over the first 30 minutes that the bingles were not going to win this football?


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[Assistant] Do either you, either you or Brenton want to stand up for Tom Brady in this bucket on your team or you guys officially?


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[Assistant] What universe did you just arrive from?


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[Assistant] I think you tweeted this, that this is the worst loss of Brady's career, point differential wise, is that right?


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[Assistant] You've got the next series, three plays, 11 yards interception.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, luckily they play in that dog dookie division. So someone left a comment, I shouldn't say dog do it anymore. So dog dookie, maybe that's better.


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[Assistant] But, and the only reason that someone won in the Falcon Saints game is because Andy Dalton led the Saints to victory. Uh, and also the Falcons quarterback quit last week and they replaced him with a rookie who hadn't played until today.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I mean it was, Carolina had an opportunity, they, they let us slip through their fingers against the, uh, uh, the Mr. Biskey led Steelers team. And I don't know which team is the best team in this division in terms of the way they're playing week in and week out, but this is a lot of truly terrible football. And you guys can talk yourself into Tom Brady if you want to.


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[Assistant] Well the, the NFC used to be pretty bad in recent years. I'll have to go back and check.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm fine with that. He sucks, they suck, they're a terrible team. I mean, there's six and eight. And they just got, they got road, they got curb songs, but after going


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[Assistant] Does he, sucks or doesn't suck? He's having a very tough year. He's not playing well. I think he would say that.


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[Assistant] I was just, I just wanted you like saying time. That's fine. I mean, I, I mean, it's not any grand secret what you're trying to do.


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm not gonna answer that question on, on just, I'm just refusing to answer it because it's, I hate this debate.


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[Assistant] It's not like, I mean, Joe Bertolini threw for 200 yards, he'd have four touchdowns, but again, they were playing a team with a bunch of JV.


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[Assistant] Folks out there. Uh, in terms of Jalen Hurts, I don't think he hurt himself.


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[Assistant] He had, you mentioned the two interceptions, but he had previously thrown an interception. I mean, he only had one prior to that in the last however many weeks. So he was due. Uh, you mentioned the three rushing touchdowns ran for 61 yards still through for 315. AJ Brown was wearing fools out. So was Devontae Smith.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Billy just put it in graphics. Most games with multiple rushing touchdowns. Cam Newton has 10. Number two is jail and hurts at eight. So shout out to Otto Graham with seven.


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[Assistant] That's awesome. And Jack Kemp, Senator Jack Kemp, Rach, also has seven.


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[Assistant] He's onto something. Yeah, he definitely did hurt himself. In fact, I would argue, it's not like when uhm, Alabama plays Troy in week nine and they, they win.


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[Assistant] The Bears are an NFL team. They have NFL players out there. Justin Fields is, you know, fighting for his life, sometimes literally. Yeah. I think Justin Hurt, uh, Jalen Hurt helped himself with the way he played and,


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[Assistant] No, yeah, they played the, no, 2005 they played the Seattle Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought that, uh, no, that was fine. Steve Smith on NFL network made a very salient point after the game where he said Jeff Saturday should be the first interim head coach fired.


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[Assistant] And not, not the first fired among all the interim head coaches. Cause I think Jeff, sorry, he's the only one, but the first fired in NFL history.


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[Assistant] His term, yes. And I don't even push back on that. I think Saturday said recently that he wants to be considered for the full-time job, like in recent weeks, not when he was hired in that weird press conference.


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[Assistant] And look, you know, Jim Marseille, uh, owns the team so he can do what he wants to do, but...


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[Assistant] This, this just ain't working. As Breach noted, you got steamrolled in the final quarter by the Cowboys. You had a week off to think about it.


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[Assistant] That's fine. You had a week off to think about it and then this happens. I don't think this is, you asked about sort of jail and hurts and whether this week was good or bad for him. This is bad for the Vikings. Yeah. They beat up on this. Sorry. Excuse for a team. Their point differential, I think is either plus two or minus two right now over the course of the year. They are currently two plus two.


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[Assistant] I was wincing when Matt Ryan was throwing the ball. You could tell his arm hurt so bad.


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[Assistant] Carving up this Vikings, and I know Vikings fans are so angry at Ed Donatell for the way he plays defense. Everyone just plays off and gives up these huge cushions and gives up big plays. And nothing's changing. He said we're not changing too late in the season, so.


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[Assistant] When you don't face Matt Ryan, who can barely hold his arm above his head, it's going to be an issue. And we've seen the cracks in the, in the dam over the last.


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[Assistant] Month of the season. So yes, it's a win. Yes, they're 11-3. Those are all great things, but I, I got some, some huge concerns. I don't know if they feel thoroughly breach.


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[Assistant] The 2019 Seahawks were 11-5. They lost in the Divisional Roundup.


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[Assistant] And you always have to go back, what, 36 years to find a team that was able to do what the Vikings are trying to do.


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[Assistant] Okay, well let's start putting some wins over Brentson numbers on these things. So what are the chances that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win a playoff game? What do you have that percentage at?


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[Assistant] For football outsiders sake, I always look them up real quick. Somehow Tampa Bay is 13th in DBOA, which is hysterical. Uh, but that's where they're 13th. They're ahead of Cleveland and the, and the Packers who are right behind them. Minnesota is 21st. I think I said this last week too. They're just ahead of the Saints and the Broncos.


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[Assistant] So that gives you some indication and actually lends credence to your argument that the buccaneers perhaps could catch, you know, lightning in a bottle. The Vikings feel like that's a huge ask.


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[Assistant] I'm actually not going to look at who the Giants were in 86. They, they, I'm guessing they were...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I just meant the one we were talking about with the point differential.


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[Assistant] And by the way, Bengals were 17th last year in DVOA. So that, that is the best case scenario for both the, the Buccaneers and the Vikings. What's next?


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[Assistant] Uh, Jacoby Myers, I mean, he threw the pass. I don't know if they talked to Ramon J. Stevens.


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[Assistant] You answered your own question, Breach. I think they were trying to get Mac Jones killed. I think that's what we concluded. By the way!