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[Assistant] The story, like if, if we, if I had suggested this story to you before the season, you would have said, that's ridiculous. Of course. Nobody would ever believe that. That's, that you can't even, that's not even fiction. Doesn't make any sense.


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[Assistant] He's played five games. This is absurd. He has as many touchdowns as Kenny Pickett does in his two years of career. That blows my mind.


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[Assistant] We'll get more of this later, but let's get back to Joe Flacco here. I want to ask you this, Divas, as someone who's played in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Have been looking for a quarterback forever. I know. Since Bernie, honestly.


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[Assistant] That would make the guys around him better.


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[Assistant] Not that they didn't play well, Derrick Anderson that one year or Baker in 2020.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson certainly hasn't done that in his brief time here. Joe Flacco is making everybody better because as Tyva said, he has built confidence on the whole team.


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[Assistant] Is it? I'll look, I'll look it up in a sec. It can't be the fifth. Well the sixteenth, they'd only have to win one. Uh, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's get to the defense here. I just want to say one last thing on Flacco is, uhm,


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[Assistant] You can't bet against him at this point. No. For anything. No. It feels like as you said before with LeBron, there's just nothing he can't do at the moment. And hopefully this...


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can. Alright, let's go to the defense, guys.


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[Assistant] Jets, Browns obviously got the ball, marched right down the field, scored, went up 7-0.


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[Assistant] We weren't totally shocked by that obviously, but then, and of course the Browns lost the toss, they seem to lose the coitus every week. Maybe that's good luck.


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[Assistant] But what was shocking is the Jets got the ball and they marched right down the field. The Browns defense for one of the rare times this year looked awful on that first drive.


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[Assistant] Fortunately, and not surprisingly, that was about it. The Jets didn't do that much. I think they had about 200 more yards. They ended up with 360 yards allowed. Some of that garbage, a lot of that garbage time at the end of the game, last couple of drives. Uh, you know, but uhm,


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[Assistant] But pretty much, you know, obviously their other touchdown was that weird pick six.


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[Assistant] I thought he was just a phenomenal player. I mean, he got him up in the air and then, and he still got it. What are you going to do? But that was it. I mean, they scored a, they got one field goal right before the half and then they got a field goal at garbage time. Uh, defense outside of the first drive.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny is that uhm, on that drive they had a long completion to Garrett Wilson.


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[Assistant] Against Emerson up down the sideline. It was like the second, maybe the first pass that Simeon threw.


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[Assistant] And then, I think the only other pass he threw more than five yards down the field was the one that got returned for the pick six.


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[Assistant] Everything else after that was, was a screen pass basically or, you know, a two yard, I mean it was, he, because the Browns, Miles Garrett felt like was in the back, I can't, he did break his, uh, his sack trout, he got a sack.


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[Assistant] He was still playing, like he had the pick six last night. They went back to the three safety loops. I think he had 60% of the snaps. I didn't look at the snap count. I saw it earlier. It was like 50 something or 60. I mean, he played a lot and he played great. Uh, Shionni Takitaki. He had like 16 tackles. Did he? Something like that. He had 16 tackles.


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[Assistant] Six other points and three of them, well, six other offensive points and three of them were in garbage time.


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[Assistant] That fourth down stop when, when Simeon tried the quarterback sneak, that was... Was that Elliott that did that?


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[Assistant] Let's be fair, Mike. Let's be fair. Sorry to cut you off, but I'm gonna cut you off.


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[Assistant] The defense hasn't been destroyed by injuries like the offense has. True.


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[Assistant] His game has gotten better. Mike's right. They definitely, listen, they've been devastated by injuries on the offense. On defense, they've had a normal amount.


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[Assistant] Right, Miles Garrett has been a little limited, but I feel like the injury is not affecting him as much anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they've lost every good guy that they've had at some point this season. But, I mean, the defense after that first drive played, as they always do, outstanding football. And the way Flacco is playing and the way the defense is playing, there's no reason they can't beat any team in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Everybody, when they went for it, after he misses the extra point, and then the Browns get the ball back.


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[Assistant] I hear ya, I had no problem with it because when you're playing a bad offensive team as the Jets are, so put them in that situation when they start inside the 10.


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[Assistant] By the way, that fourth down throw, that was the play rate where Flacco yelled at Tillman.


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[Assistant] He was totally fine, he got no problem there. How about the punt where Prochet lets it roll and it barely got to the goal. He got lucky there.


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[Assistant] Thumbs up, where are you? Everybody watching right now, please give us the thumbs up, give us the like, and if you haven't already, please subscribe to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Guys, the running game has been non-existent for more than a month. It has been terrible.


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[Assistant] And you and I have been critical of this running game for a long time, Jason, but last night was one of the best performances I thought by the running game. I thought the blocking on the line was outstanding. I thought, kudos to Leroy. Leroy just said to us this week,


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[Assistant] Jerome Ford is, has to show more patience.


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[Assistant] He was shot out of a cannon on that play. It was like they parted the Red Sea and he just flew right through it. You found a fourth wheel.


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[Assistant] Well, Jerome Ford had two touchdowns. And not only did Jerome Ford have a good game on the ground, he had the two catch it. And that 50 yard touchdown where he caught it and was making guys miss, that was a great play.


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[Assistant] Guys, let's switch it up from the running backs. We got Bernie here, he's gonna join us in just a few minutes. We know Bernie's excited, he's been so into this whole playoff run, so we'll have Bernie join us in a minute.


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[Assistant] But let's switch gears from the running backs to the wide receivers slash tight ends. David Najoku had a monster first half.


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[Assistant] For a thousand yard season now, I think he's got up to 880 yards with the way he's played the last couple of weeks. So if he has another big game, now again, if the Ravens win, the Browns will have nothing to play for next week, so he probably won't play.


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[Assistant] He's never had a thousand. He's never come close to a thousand. I mean, what a season he's having. And with Flacco. Kev is not going to let them play. I agree. I'm not letting any of them play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we don't know when he's going to be back. I mean, you know, a lot of guys come back in a week or two, but this was pretty serious.


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[Assistant] So, let me ask you a crazy question here. Should the Browns call Jarvis Landry right now?


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[Assistant] Shad and Sharpe commented on it on his podcast with Chad Johnson. Did you see that?


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[Assistant] Kittle, those guys have done it for years. Okay. So it's not fair to put him in that group, but yeah, you want to put them with the... But I'd say Kelsey and Kittle are going like this and David's going like this. I actually, Kittle's having a great year. Oh, I say Kittle's not. Kelsey's numbers are going down.


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[Assistant] No doubt, he's huge and yeaah, playing as well as anybody at the position.


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[Assistant] Is uh, does Ozzie Newsome hold the Browns record for most?


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[Assistant] Receiving yards in the season with a 1,002 for a tight end. Yes. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] What's the record? It's under 1,100, I know that. I don't know what Gary Barnes is adding. That is crazy to Gary Barnes.


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[Assistant] I think the Browns have something to play for next week. He'll have a shot.


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[Assistant] And let me tell you this, because I know it, because I watch the team, the Bengals are awful against Tynet.


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[Assistant] Awful. So he could definitely have a huge game next week.


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[Assistant] Uh, but again, we need the Ravens to lose to Miami for that game to have meaning. Which is possible, but we'll see.


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[Assistant] Bernie, uh, the Joe Flacco story coming into this week was already absurd. It was already crazy. It was already a fairy tale.


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[Assistant] Last night, 90 minutes before the game, we find out Amari Cooper's not gonna play.


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[Assistant] You're playing, this is the best secondary that he's faced since he's been here. Jets obviously are really good in the secondary.


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[Assistant] And he throws for 296 yards in the first half. How is this happening?


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[Assistant] Bernie, obviously if the Ravens lose to Miami on Sunday, the Browns will still be able to potentially win the division. You're gonna play everybody against the Bengals. If the Ravens win, the Browns are locked into that five spot. Obviously there's something to be said for momentum, the way Flacco's playing.


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[Assistant] Bernie, uh, Jason was talking about how Joe is, like, he, when guys screw up, he's, he's on them. Like, it doesn't matter that he's new, he's a veteran, he's proven it. How important is that to the way he's leading?


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[Assistant] You mentioned the running game. They hadn't been running well until last night.


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[Assistant] Jerome Ford had a big game. They blocked well. Joe Flacco has not been sacked two weeks in a row. The offensive line seems to be playing, improving.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, Joe Flacco was one, he loves Cleveland, but he did complain that there's no, he said, I think last night there's no, Cleveland needs a 24 hour diner, which is true. We do need a 24 hour diner.


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[Assistant] Good call, dark nasty ass master. Dank nasty. Dark nasty. Not dark nasty, but dank nasty.


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[Assistant] I'm very curious to know how he came up with this. Uh, alright guys, we're going over to WKYC. Make sure folks, channel3wkyc.com. If you can't see it, you'll have, you'll see it tomorrow. We love you all! The Prounds are in the playoffs!


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[Assistant] Uh, what's great about this show and this crew is that we all root for each other even when we're busting each other's balls.


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[Assistant] And that hard work pays off. A lot of times in this business you can work hard and you're not appreciated for that and you're just asked to do more and taken advantage of. Uh, and that happens everywhere in this business, unfortunately, but here the hard work pays off. So congratulations to both of you.


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[Assistant] Uh, your show, we'll get more details once we have them.


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[Assistant] Steve, imagine being 29 with the knowledge you have now. That's how I feel. Like, if I could be 29 again, with the knowledge I have now...


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[Assistant] Hey, you know what? Think about for all of us, besides Steve.


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[Assistant] How much more time we'd have in our lives if it wasn't for sports, right? You know, who knows what we'd be doing. Maybe we'd be curing cancer. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I used to play hockey with baseball bats. We would play baseball with tennis racquets.


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[Assistant] By the way, I think if there were no sports, G and I could have starred in the new version of Miami Vice. Or Beverly Hill Cops. Yea, but like with big guys. Yea, like yea. We would have been the big guys, we'd be all the chicks would love us.


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[Assistant] Let's keep it moving. We're going to talk about some big news out of the Browns-Texans game. We'll have Leroy Hoard in about 20 minutes. We'll have Cecil Shortz coming up later in the show. We'll talk about Myles Garrett's case for Defensive Player of the Year. And we'll talk about the Browns adding a


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[Assistant] A young veteran defensive tackle to the mix, but first Earl for the latest.


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[Assistant] By the way, in addition to thanking these guys for coming in, I wanted to thank all the fans that came into my live podcast yesterday. And speaking of those fans, we need Creative Juice or somebody else. Please, can we get a mockup of G and I as the guys from Miami Vice? Crockett Tubbs? Wasn't that what it was? Crockett Tubbs? I'd like to see that mockup, I think that would be funny.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, big news coming out of Houston. Obviously the Browns are playing the Texans on Sunday. There was a report from one of the Texans beat reporters saying CJ Stroud is still dealing with concussion symptoms.


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[Assistant] And he said he's, he's not, he's not, he's almost definitely not going to play. So right now, I mean, unless we hear anything different today when they practice, it seems like it's a long shot for CJ Stroud to play. Big deal. Is there anybody here that thinks


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[Assistant] The Texans are better off with the veteran in Case Keenum. Can we make that case or no way? No. No.


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[Assistant] Who had a game winning touchdown. Go Bucks. Yeaah. He's had a weird season. He's been a boomer bust guy. He either gets like 100 yards or zero.


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[Assistant] By the way, CJ Stroud is fourth in the NFL in yards per game, but of guys that have played at least 10 games, he's actually second, and he's less than a yard per game behind Tua. As a rookie, that's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Ridiculous. You know who's leading the league, and it's not, it doesn't really, it's not official because he hasn't played enough games, but you know who's leading the league in passing yards per game.


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[Assistant] He's second. Even though he hasn't played 10 games, he's second. Who's number one?


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[Assistant] The guy leading the league in yards per game, you know, any amount of games, but he hasn't played enough to qualify, but uh, he actually leads the league. Jake Brownie? This is a terrible job out of you guys. Joe Flacco! Joe Flacco!


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[Assistant] He leads the league passing yards per game. He does, doesn't he? 313 yards per game. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it was, I think it was 14-3 or something or 13-3, something like that. Uh, yeah, I don't, Noah Brown had a good game. I think Noah Brown had a hundred yards if I remember correctly or something like that. I know he had a good game, but, uh, yeah, they don't have a ton of weapons.


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[Assistant] He's actually played really well. They had, Damien Pearce was there starting back early in the season. He'd been their starter last year. Singletary kind of out of nowhere because he hadn't done that much in Buffalo. He's played very well for them. I don't know what his numbers are in the year, but since he's been their starter, he's been pretty good. So he's really their biggest threat. Especially if Nico Collins doesn't play.


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[Assistant] He's got a shot for a thousand yards this season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, the Titans aren't a very good team, so they couldn't take advantage of that situation. But the Browns obviously have a much better pass rush, and if they put


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[Assistant] The Texans in, in situation where they gotta throw.


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[Assistant] That's a terrible situation. I think this is a huge deal. I mean, obviously, it's a no-brainer. It's a huge deal if CJ Stroud is not playing. This is a, with CJ Stroud, this game's a toss-up. You would even argue that the Texans should be favored as they are because they're at home. And with CJ Stroud, they've been really good.


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[Assistant] Uh, without them, I think the Browns should be favored in this game. I, I, I think the difference between Stroud and Keenum is almost a touchdown. Yea, it is. I, I, I think it's, you know, I think it goes from a really tough Browns win to a game they absolutely should win. They gotta have this. There's no excuse for losing. The next two weeks, they're facing


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[Assistant] But Ty, to some degree, aren't they using all these screenpasses as part of the, you know, isn't that? Yep. Does that not count? Yes.


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[Assistant] It makes no sense. On paper it makes no sense. And it very easily could backfire if he gets hurt or something.


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[Assistant] Guys, before we, we'll get back to CJ Stroud and all this coming up a little bit later.


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[Assistant] We're gonna have Leroy Horde on with us shortly. I wanted to bring up something real quick because the Browns


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[Assistant] Did it add a player to the practice squad? And this time of year, with as many injuries as the Browns have had, it's worth mentioning every time you bring in a new guy. The new guy they brought in is a defensive tackle by the name of Chris Williams. He assigned to the practice squad. He has some experience. He was undrafted at a Wagner, which is a school in Long Island.


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[Assistant] Back and forth between the Colts and their practice squad in 21 and 22. I believe he played, never started, but I believe he's played like more than a dozen games over the last two years. Uh, and this year he's been, I believe, on the Chiefs practice squad today. They're three games, he's 13 games in play.


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[Assistant] With no, I mean, there's like no vision there. He's missing holes.


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[Assistant] Cause there, Keith Mitchell, their young running back got hurt and they had Melvin Gordon on their practice squad and they signed him to the active roster.


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[Assistant] And it made me think, I was like, wouldn't the Browns be better off right now with a guy like Melvin Gordon, a guy like Latavious Murray, that type of player?


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[Assistant] Who's a veteran, who doesn't have the speed they once had. But you know, they're seeing the holes these guys, because they've been through it all. Kind of like Flacco at quarterback. Would they be better off with a guy like that right now, who might be on somebody's practice squad?


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[Assistant] Obviously his great time in New England's coming to an end. It seems like they're going to part ways with his worst season ever.


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[Assistant] Do you expect him to have one more ride, like go to the Chargers or somebody else, or you think he's done?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it certainly had, they were like a four touchdown lead in the playoffs last year. To, was it to Jacksonville?


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[Assistant] Damn. And he's not even one of their top five receivers in the last three years. He battled injuries. By the way, do you guys agree with Leroy that every


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[Assistant] Offensive lineman is better in run than pass. I get what he's saying. Dwayne Jones isn't. In theory, it should be easier to run block than pass block.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the game is so different than when Leroy played, especially when he first, I mean, he was playing in college in the eighties. So like the game was so different now, especially even more so in college, you throw in the ball over the


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[Assistant] Yeah, but Miles Garrett, there's not a lot of, you know, Miles Garrett's like one out of five, you know what I mean? It's like, it's like seven prolific pass rushers. I know that, but that- I'd rather run at them than them just coming in here don't me, that's- I hear ya. But, you know, you're not facing Miles Garrett every week. You're facing different, whatever, and that's with one player.


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[Assistant] And the bottom line is, it seems to me, and I think it seems to you also, because you've been saying it, that the Browns have a bunch of offensive linemen that are better at pass blocking. I think Wyatt Teller's probably about equal, maybe even a better run, but the rest of these guys are


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[Assistant] There you go. Put that up there. All the, you know, we do an overtime segment four days a week usually.


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[Assistant] That's at least 10 minutes. Sometimes it's 15 minutes. Occasionally we've gone 20. You're talking about at least an extra 40 minutes of content.


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[Assistant] I just went to the FanDuel Sportsbook for the latest numbers.


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[Assistant] And Miles Garrett is the second choice on FanDuel to win MVP. Now it's very close. Michael Parsons. Defensive MVP. Michael Parsons is a slight favorite at plus 125.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett, the second choice at plus 140. That's very close. And then it's a fairly decent drop to T.J. Watt, who's third, at plus 430. And then a huge drop to DeNeil Hunter.


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[Assistant] And then Josh Allen and then Daron Bland who are plus 2,500 or more. So, Miles Garrett right now is the second choice, but it's kinda 1A, 1B. You gots the fancy slip?


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[Assistant] What say you guys? Do you agree with Kevin's fancy that nobody's even close? Do you think it's close, but he's going to win? Or do you think he's not going to win? What other three do you have?


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[Assistant] I think Stefanski's wrong that it's not close. I think that's wrong.


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[Assistant] No, but the Niners defenses is good if not better. I don't agree with that. Well, I mean, what are we basing it on?


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[Assistant] I'll say this, I, if I had to vote, if I was voting today, I would vote Miles Garifoli. I would too. I definitely think it's close. I don't agree that it's not close.


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[Assistant] But I, I would, ultimately, I would give him my vote right now. We still have a couple of weeks to see what happens. He doesn't have the best statistics in terms of sacks, of course. Actually, T.J. Watts got the most now at 16.


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[Assistant] But I'm not voting for TJ Watt cause I don't, I do think...


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[Assistant] How good that defense is and the players around you matter. I think ultimately, I think, I don't even think TJ watched top three for me. I think the top three is Miles Garrett. I think Nick Bost is number two because I think the Niners defense is, I don't know, how, how do we determine who's got the best defense?


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[Assistant] Like if you look at points per game allowed, I don't know that that's a good stat, it's actually the Ravens are the best, followed by the Niners, the Browns are like seventh.


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[Assistant] If you look at yards allowed, the Browns are number one. Uh, if you look at some efficiency numbers, you look at first downs allowed, I think the Browns, the Ravens and the Niners in terms of their total defense are very close. I don't know that one is clearly better than the other. If the Browns were completely healthy, I think they'd be one, but you know, injury is a part of the game. Where are they?


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[Assistant] And I think Nick Bolster should be in the conversation. I don't think T.J. Watt's in the conversation for me.


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[Assistant] I think the third guy in the conversation is uhm- Michael Parsons? Michael Parsons. I think those are the three. But ultimately, I would- I really don't like Neil Hunter.


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[Assistant] Thousands. Okay. Hundreds. You're talking about 16 plays. Yea, 16 plays.


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[Assistant] But guys, I think my, I think Kevin Stefanski is 100% correct when he talks about people overrate sacks. Right. Because that's such a small percentage of the


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[Assistant] The problem for me is, people look at sax as if they're the end all be all. They're a part of the puzzle, of course.


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[Assistant] But think about that, Tyvis. He's playing a thousand plays. That's only 21 plays. So you're gonna judge a ward based on 21 of his thousand plays? I'm saying you gotta look at the whole thousand. And if you, you know, I don't know, I don't look at


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[Assistant] Isn't it fair to say that it would be hard to believe that there would be any defensive player, if you watched him play in and play out, that would be as, as,


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[Assistant] They're number one. I already looked at it. They're dead to me. So he's number one. Miles Garrett is number one. Who's two? I'll bring it. I had it right up here.


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[Assistant] Uh, defensive ends. Okay. Alright, and I don't think, uh, I don't, I don't think Bosa, no, Bosa is listed. Wait, wait, Watt is listed. Number one.


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[Assistant] Now he's on a bad team, but he's a nice player. And tied for fifth, Khalil Mack and TJ Watt at 91.1. Real quick, boy.


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[Assistant] Now, if you look at, if you look at Myles Garrett, past the, past Rush grade, number one, 94-4. Micah Parsons too. Who's number one?


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[Assistant] Here's the MVP as of now. Right now Brock Purdy is a huge favorite. He's minus 200.


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[Assistant] Oh, I know. Even though he's not, there's no way he's better than Josh Allen. Uh, Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson is second at plus 500. Josh Allen is third at plus 800. Dak Prescott has dropped from first to fourth at plus 900. McCaffrey is fifth at plus 1200.


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[Assistant] If the Ravens beat the Niners and we don't want that to happen, we want obviously the Niners to win. But if the Ravens beat the Niners and Lamar plays a great game, I think he's...


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[Assistant] There's nobody even list, uh, Micah Parsons is plus.


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[Assistant] So, you got, so that's, I gave you the top five, but Caffrey was fifth.


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[Assistant] Tua is 6 plus 2,000, uh, Tua and Mahomes tied for 6 plus 2,000. Tyreek Hill is 8 plus 2,500. Jalen Hurts is 9 to plus 3,000. Then there's a huge drop.


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[Assistant] Tenth is, uh, Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff at plus 15,000. Matthew Stafford, C.J. Stroud and Micah Parsons are tied for 12th at plus 20,000.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, listen, the quarterback makes the biggest impact on most games. That's just the reality of the situation.


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[Assistant] Destroy them. Yeaah. Alright Earl, what you got for us?


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[Assistant] You liked Ronnie Hickman. I'll give you credit. He, you were talking about Ronnie Hickman in preseason. In the training camp. You liked him.


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[Assistant] Guys, more on this later because we got our guest. Cecil Schwartz is with us. Cleveland's own. Former NFL player. Former Mountain Union Purple Raider. And there he is. Cecil, how are you man? Thanks for joining us.


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[Assistant] See, so speaking of which, you mentioned Mount Union there. I was stunned because, you know, I went to a Division III college that had a good football team, not Mount Union good, but a good football team.


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[Assistant] And we make, our team makes the playoffs every so often. But Mountain Union goes to the playoffs every year. I just pencil them into the Final Four every year. But they blew a big lead and lost in the second round. I was stung by this. You had to be shocked.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the mountains of vision 3 players that have played in the NFL is...


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[Assistant] Like, we're okay, you know, we've been good, we win eight games, you know, nine games, and they went to the playoffs, they went to the Final Four a few years ago.


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[Assistant] And I think they lost, I don't remember who they lost to. I don't think it was Mount Union. I think they were in the other semi-final. But when I was there, we had, we had a pretty good team. We, but we'd lose to Cortland who won, Cortland actually won the championship this year at another,


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[Assistant] Brockport and Cortland are both out of the State University and New York Conference. They're always, they've always been pretty, they actually got a really sweet facility for Division 3. They got a, they got a new facility like 15 years ago, it's a really sweet place.


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[Assistant] Anyway, but yeaah, I mean, I agree with, and you know what? Everything happens for a reason, right? I mean, you went to Mt. Union, you dominated, you were the best player in Division 3, and you stood out, and then you took advantage of your opportunity.


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[Assistant] Which was incredible. Because, I mean, to make it, to have the career you did.


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[Assistant] Coming from a Division 3. First of all, there's not, as we said, there's barely any players that make it to the NFL from Division 3, let alone have a quality career like you did. It's just, there's like two or three guys, maybe a few more than that, but not much.


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[Assistant] Cecil, uh, if Wikipedia is correct, you're about to celebrate your 36th birthday in two days. Is that correct? Or no?


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco is about to celebrate in a couple of weeks his 39th birthday. He was on the couch for 11 months at the age of 38.


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[Assistant] And obviously he hasn't been perfect, he's thrown some picks. But he's played way, he's averaging 313 yards a game in the three games he's played.


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[Assistant] As you said, they were running the ball better earlier last few weeks because of the offensive line or whatever it is. They have not run the ball well at all. He has put the offense on his shoulders and for the most part he's gotten it done. How surprising at nearly 39 years old with 11 months on the couch that he is playing as well as he is right now.


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[Assistant] Let's wrap it with this. You and Tyvis both come out of retirement for 10 plays each. You're going up head to head. He's covering you.


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[Assistant] 10 plays. Now he's 10 year- or, no not 10, he's 7 years younger than you.


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[Assistant] Hold on, time out. You can't put Cecil in the same category with the other two guys. If he gives you more credit, then he disses himself. He could have said five-five. You wouldn't have said five-five if I would have asked you.


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[Assistant] We're gonna have to talk about this more, because Earl's gotta get some super chats in, G. Uh, go ahead. Uh, we'll talk about this more, but this could be a lot of fun. Go ahead, Earl.


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[Assistant] Damn. Shout out to Creative Juice, man. We love that. Creative Juice is good, man. He is good. Good job, buddy. Alright, Earl, good job today. Thanks, man. Anthony, good job today. Thanks to Cecil Shortz for joining us. Thanks to Leroy for joining us. Tyvis, you're off the rest of the week. What do you got going on this weekend besides Christmas? Anything? Is my mic on? Did he really kill my mic?


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[Assistant] Bobby G sent me his top four if he was voting in as a committee. Yeaah. And I want to just give you his top four real quickly for a minute on this, but do you agree, disagree, think he's close or way off? This is Bobby G from GameTimes, top four if we were voting playoff committee. Yeaah. Number one Ravens.


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[Assistant] Number two Browns, number three Lions, number four 49ers. With the Bills and Eagles at five and six.


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[Assistant] This next question we're gonna ask, I'm gonna put it in the poll. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, and before Earl knew it was going to be out there, I asked Earl this question. He goes, I don't even want to answer that, man. I'm not going to answer that. Well, now Earl, you're on the panel, so you can't avoid the question.


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[Assistant] I want to ask it to you because I want all you guys to answer. Right now, today, is Joe Flacco more valuable to the Browns than Miles Garrett?


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[Assistant] I have the poll result from this, by the way, and this has been, I don't always follow the chat, but there's no miles versus flat go comparison graphics, so I was kind of keeping an eye on this.


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[Assistant] When the chat is even on something or pretty close to even, I think it's a fun topic. I enjoyed listening to this. 55 Flacco, 45 Garrett.


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[Assistant] It is a lot of fun and Gbush who's not here today hopefully is back tomorrow if you want to hear G's immediate take to the game you go back and listen on the post game instant reaction show on the YouTube channel. We got a little update for you guys actually since the show has started the Browns have signed a punter. They signed Matt Hawke.


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[Assistant] Riley Patterson the kicker, Matt Hawk. It's H-A-A-C-K.


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[Assistant] Guys, I don't have a great answer for you. He was 2 for 2 and 3 for 3 on extra points and he missed an extra point against Chicago. He was 1 for 2 against Chicago and they cut him after that.


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[Assistant] I trust him to kick a 50 yard field goal. And in his career, Ty, real quick, in his career, just like Dustin Hopkins was 50%, he's three for six in his career on 50 yard field.


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[Assistant] No, and Stefanski is not, uh, players are speaking first before Stefanski, so as soon as Stefanski tells us what happened, I'll try to...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I should be here any minute. As soon as he is, we will bring him on. But I do have one more question about the kick situation real quick.


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[Assistant] Not as worried in time as you might be the best person to ask, but a hamstring injury on the plant leg versus the kick leg, obviously not ideal, but if we find out it's the plant leg and not the kicking leg, do you think that changes the recovery time or is the plant leg in the situation of a field goal kicker equally as important and equally as finicky and needs just time to heal as the kicking leg would?


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[Assistant] Leroy, you wanna hear a crazy stat about Amari Cooper running away from people?


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[Assistant] He is second in the NFL on go-routes. On yard gained on go-routes. You know why? Tyree Kill.


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[Assistant] Okay. Couple of injury updates for you guys before we get into our next topic, but Kevin Stephanie speaking with the media. DTR is headed to the IR. So his season, at least in the regular season is over. PJ Walker, Philip, as Tyvis likes to call him has been elevated to the active roster. Dustin Hopkins also


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[Assistant] Ruled out for Thursday, so he will not kick already. Nowhere down the punter situation.


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[Assistant] But Hopkins is listed as week to week with a hamstring. Stefanski did not, at least what I've seen so far, did not clarify if it's his kicking leg and or his plant leg, but he's officially ruled out for Thursday and DTR is headed to the injured reserve list. Another guy that heads to the IR.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, just Walker has been elevated, so. I'm following on Twitter, so I'm following Mary Kay tweets out. We need another QB.


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[Assistant] Earl said he thought Amari Cooper was a top 10 receiver. I think he's in the conversation for top 10. Bull, we mentioned it on the Monday show that you think he's properly rated. So I'll ask it this way and then we could dive into an official top 10 list at the end if we want to. But Amari Cooper, underrated, overrated, or properly rated?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Super Elite. Jefferson, Chase. I think Adam is out of Super Elite.


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[Assistant] Uh, I just, I'll look real quick. Uhm, how about, boy I lost you when you said you took your balls out in public.


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[Assistant] Uh, poetic pen says the bulge is wild. Uh, the clag said bull's about to get fired.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure if Hopkins would be back for the playoffs, again causing week to week.


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[Assistant] Is this a level 4 loss? A level 7 loss? A 10? Where on a scale of 1-10 is losing Dustin Hopkins?


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[Assistant] The first Super Chat, couple of these are questions, couple of these are just Super Chats, comes from Tech Operations.


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[Assistant] His TV's on a mount, and normally if there's no tree, it is lined up over the soundbar, but because the tree's there, he has slid it to the side, and it looks way off.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't have a Christmas tree. In the way of that, yeah. It's just the whole, the ability just to slide the TV over to avoid the soundbar. It's nice to be set up.


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[Assistant] Uh, next, P Williams says, Karma is a 2024 AFC Championship game. Browns vs Ravens. Browns win avenged the 1995 move with Flacco at the helm. What a storyline that would be.


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[Assistant] Uh, next one comes from Fortune888. Tivus is completely accurate. Oh!


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[Assistant] Well, the next one is from Charles T. He has two. He said, Tyvis is right, right, right. Who was the quarterback when the Browns beat the 49ers and the Ravens?


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[Assistant] Uh, Charles T also says the Browns lose two starters per game. Who is one more games for the Browns this year? Dustin Hopkins or Joe Flacco?


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[Assistant] And last but not least, and I can't believe I'm gonna read this, but I'm gonna read it.


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[Assistant] This is a super chat. I'm just reading the super chat. This is from Do It For Chubb.


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[Assistant] If some other teams lose, then they could. Yeah. But I think I saw it on the New York Times thing, where you enter in the wins and stuff. Yes, you can play their probability game. Just the Browns win gives them a 99% chance of making the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And then if you threw in the fact that they're averaging over two turnovers a game, add the injuries, I would have laughed even more.


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[Assistant] The Browns were overdue for a number of breaks and obviously the injuries have not been breaks for them but everything else this season outside of the way they lost that first Steeler game everything else has been


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[Assistant] But Garen Christian, they picked him up off the couch, and he's done a decent, you know, a serviceable job at Left Apple. Not great, certainly. I haven't used his name in vain yet. No, he's been...


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[Assistant] Your dad looks a little like, uh, Taggart from Beverly Hills Cop. Oh yes, good call.


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[Assistant] Now, I've always been curious about this, Anthony, and I'll ask you for your dad and for other people that do this. Like,


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[Assistant] When your birthday is near Christmas, I know you celebrate Christmas, as many people do.


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[Assistant] When your birthday's near Christmas, I feel like you get screwed out of gifts.


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[Assistant] I know we tried to get you in our league, but you spurned us. Yes, spurned? Is that the right word? Spurned?


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[Assistant] We talk trash to each other all the time. I'm going to talk you into it for next year. Deedee, let's get to it.


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[Assistant] It's getting to the point of ridiculousness with all the injury. We just talked about this. If we had told you before the season.


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[Assistant] I think, I think most of the fans have come around to where you are, where I've been, where Jason's been. A lot of people have finally come around. There are still gonna be haters that every game he loses are gonna want him fired, but the majority of people have come around. G had been one of the harshest critics and he's fully come around, so.


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[Assistant] Better, much better as the season's gotten long. Early in the year they struggled and they've played a lot better. I, I don't ex, listen, I, I never expect the games to be easy in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Certainly the way the Browns are currently constituted, most of their games are very close and competitive.


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[Assistant] I obviously feel a lot better about their chances of winning without CJ Stroud and he's not gonna play.


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[Assistant] Not to mention their best receiver. Tank Dell is done for the season. Their second best receiver is probably out for this game. Nico Collins.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, they're hamstr on offense, but they still have some talent. Guys and Devon Singletaries run the ball well. Case Keenum's a legitimate veteran and their defense has played well. So while I'm thinking, I'm expecting the Browns to ultimately win, I'm expecting them, as usual, to win.


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[Assistant] Coming into the year, people thought the Browns would be better than the Texans. Right. And they've had a lot of injuries too. You know, outside of Tank Dell, it hasn't been, and Stroud the last couple of weeks, there's not been as many key players, but their offensive line, like the Browns, has been completely shredded. I was talking with Sean Salisbury, you know Sean, probably, right?


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[Assistant] I, I had him on my podcast. He was like, they have not, he's like, I'm not sure they've had the same offensive line for a half the whole season.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying, like, I think there's no, to me... So there's a lot of comparisons between the two rostered officials. To me, there's no other candidates in my mind.


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[Assistant] They're one and two, however you slice it. I think after that, there's a drop to McDaniel. I think if the Bengals make the playoffs, you gotta give Zach Taylor some credit there with the backup quarterback. I think, uh, Dan Campbell gets some credit. I think Sean Payton, if the Broncos made the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And by, you know, in the past, we, we've criticized Kevin's defense key times when the defense was bad. So he's got to get some credit too. He's the head man.


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[Assistant] Somebody asked me, somebody asked me the other day, uh, on my podcast, they asked me, you know, if you could only keep one guy, Kevin Stefanski, Jim Schwartz, or Callahan, who would you keep? And I said, hey, listen, I love Schwartz, I love Callahan, but Kevin Stefanski's the head coach. I'm keeping him.


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[Assistant] I, I, I, I could find another great defensive coordinator. Maybe, you know, maybe he wouldn't be the right guy. I don't know. But the other guy the Browns were looking at, Brian Flores, he's done a really good job this year too. I'm not saying I would want to get rid of, Schwartz and Callahan are fantastic coaches. Hope they stay with the Browns for the next bunch of, I haven't heard any buzz about.


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[Assistant] Because you're already hearing about Ben Johnson, who's the Lion's OC. You're hearing about Harbaugh. You're hearing about Belichick. You know, we'll see. It depends on how many jobs are open, but.


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[Assistant] We talk all the time about chemistry between players. Well, there's chemistry between coach and player too. And Jim Schwartz now, I mean, think about this, he's done a great job his first year. What could he do next year? Now he's going into the off season, he knows these players even better.


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[Assistant] We were just talking about this the other day when you weren't here, Jay, that


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[Assistant] What's taken, we've always talked about that there's another half a floor for a guy like Miles Garrett that only, only three or four players have that little extra level. Right. He hadn't quite reached it. And we, you know, we've thought about like, he had always been kind of good against the run, but not great against the run.


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[Assistant] This year, he's always been a great pass rusher. But this year, his run defense has reached a whole nother level. And even as he's been hurt, you've seen him get better these last three weeks as he's coming back from the injury. I'm expecting him to have a big game this week personally.


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[Assistant] Will Myles Garrett have a sack this week? I don't know if it was one sack there or it was, but I think he's going to break his sackless streak here these last couple of weeks. I hope so. I think he gets the quarterback this week.


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[Assistant] It's not, I mean, usually the guy who leads the league in sacks is in the conversation. Yeaah. So it's not crazy to say that. No. But, uh, you know, we'll see. I mean, listen, the Brown, we talked about it a little bit earlier in the week. The Browns have six, seven, eight guys that could be Pro Bowlers this year, which is remarkable considering some of their best players hurt.


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[Assistant] So, so on offense, guys that at least have a puncher's chance.


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[Assistant] Seems like it. They may only take one kicker, so maybe they take Justin Tucker out of, you know, because they always take him, I don't know, but.


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[Assistant] The punter maybe, uh, uh, on defense, Miles Garrett's a lock. Denzel Ward was a lock till he got hurt. We'll see. Uh, certainly Martin Emberson, you can make a case. Certainly J. Okay. You can make seven guys.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think it's a no-brainer. I feel this, I know that Flacco's a free agent at the end of the year and I want to go down that road, but I feel the same way about Sofanski, I feel, deal with that in the offseason. I'll deal with that in the offseason, uhm, and, but, I mean, it's a no, there's no argument, not, I mean, to me it would be insane not to give him a contract extension in his offseason.


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[Assistant] You guys know how much I've defended and loved Kevin Stefanski. You don't get elite status until you win the Super Bowl. And he's won, technically he's won zero playoff games. His team has won one. So until you do something in the playoffs, you don't get the elite tag. But he's done a great job.


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[Assistant] From what we know, he and Barry and Deepadesta are cut from the same cloth. We may not like Deepadesta, but they're cut from the same cloth. The only thing it would be with Jimmy and the son-in-law, that would be it. We have heard whether or not it's true.


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[Assistant] The one thing you can credit Jimmy with, really the only thing you can credit with, is he'll pay Kevin Stavansky whatever he needs to pay him.


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[Assistant] Well, the reason he has more than Browning is because Browning played in the second half of a game.


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[Assistant] When he first came in, cause remember, uh, Burl got hurt in the middle of a game. Yeah, that's right. On the Monday night or whatever it was.


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[Assistant] The good news is, uh, Ethan Posick did, uh, practice yesterday.


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[Assistant] Hopefully, Joe Bittonio will practice today, because to get that middle back would be you.


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[Assistant] The Texans kind of like the Bears are better against the run than they are defensively better against the run than the fast. So it's another team where it all kind of lines up for them to throw the ball. And even with Case Keenum, I don't expect it, I expect the Texans offense to be, you know, decent.


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[Assistant] He's a pro. He'll move them. He'll make plays. And again, Singletary's having a great year in the backfield for them. They still got Noah Brown who's played really well. They got a solid tight end in Dalton Schultz. They could get Nico Collins back. They're not a terrible offense.


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[Assistant] It's possible, I think he's probably not going to play, but it's possible he's going to come back.


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[Assistant] I wonder when the season's over, we're gonna have to find out this stat. If the Browns will set the record this year, for most wins,


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[Assistant] In a season, in games where they've lost a turnover margin.


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[Assistant] And even if you don't do the ratio, the Browns have, are averaging over two turnovers a game.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's crazy to have the record they do. I can't imagine there's any team in the history of football, I'd be shocked, that have averaged as many turnovers per game as the Browns and have been good.


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[Assistant] You know, that's easier said than done. For the most part, outside of that, Brown's had that like three week stretch where they were struggling against the run. But for the most part, I like the Bears, they wanted to run, but they couldn't run last week. Yeah, not even the quarterback. Nope.


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[Assistant] I think they will run a little better as the rest of the season goes, but I don't think it's going to be this week. I think the last game of the season against Cincinnati, the Bengals have lost TJ Reader. That is devastating for their run defense. The Bengals weren't a great run defense team.


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[Assistant] Without him, they're definitely well below. I think they'll, they'll, they'll amp it up. But I think this week,


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[Assistant] I don't see it. Even if they do run it a lot, I don't know that they're going to get to 85 yards the way, the offensive line is still banked up, you know, hopefully by at least, you know, hopefully you get, if you get Petonio and Posick back, then maybe, but I wasn't confident that they were both going to play this week.


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[Assistant] And he, this really, he's never happened with any kind of regularity with the Browns and it certainly hasn't happened this year. And I don't know what he's got left in him to do this.


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[Assistant] But I wonder if they gave Kareem Hunt 16 carries. What, what he could do. What would it look like?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean, I just thought, and I know the offensive line didn't do a good job obviously, I just thought Jerome Ford looked really hesitant last week and wasn't seeing some holes. Maybe strong.


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[Assistant] I've been high on Strong all year, but the only thing I'll say about Hunt is...


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[Assistant] I mean he has the perfect combination of instincts, vision,


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[Assistant] Power. Power. Cause he's hard. He never gets tackled by the first guy. Never. Almost never. Takes more than one. But Kareem Hunt also like, he has that ability. He's more of a north south guy than Ford is.


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[Assistant] You know, Krelan's not that old. No. I'd like to see him get 15 carries.


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[Assistant] And, and, and then split the other ten between Pierre Strong, maybe five and five between him and Ford. I know it's, they're not likely to do it because if they were going to, they might have, but it's not, what they're doing right now is not working. It's not working. Let's see what Kareem Hunt can do.


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[Assistant] Well, the fact that they, you know, when they first started putting him in, he was run, it was always run, run, and then last week he threw the ball. So now you don't know when he comes in what he's going to do.


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[Assistant] By the way, before we move on to the next one, I think you guys would appreciate this because it was like when you get, you know, it feels like people are starting to get excited about the Browns nationally and whatever. I listen to like fantasy football radio because I'm a big dork and uh, so I'm listening to Sirius XM's fantasy football channel to their morning show.


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[Assistant] And some, they let callers call in and ask questions, and this one caller was like, yeaah, I'm a, I'm desperate at quarterback this week, I could use...


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[Assistant] Oh, my choice is, I think is Flacco or Sam Howell, and I'm going with Flacco. Wow. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I think they were gonna go back to Howell, which they shouldn't, but...


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[Assistant] The other step is Steve versus, uh, Tyvis. We cannot have Steve win. I mean, that's not everybody's room against that. No offense.


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[Assistant] Well, they're looking like we have, as they say in the Brown's offensive line is a problem, but so is the Texans. Their offensive line's a problem too.


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[Assistant] If they do I think the Browns will definitely have more sacks. If they don't, both teams can end up with a lot of sacks.


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[Assistant] Maybe, by the way, the reason that Jason and Tyvis, I think it's both of them, picked the Texans is because the Browns are probably going to throw the ball a lot more than the Texans are.


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[Assistant] Texans have run the ball well, so there you go. Alright, we're switching it up.


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[Assistant] And my podcast will be out, audio version might already be out, the video version will be out at 7, my interview with Sean Salisbury previewing the Browns and Tech.


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[Assistant] There's rumors of Donovan Mitchell being traded. Somebody from Yahoo put out an article yesterday saying that the Cavs are not listening. None of us have ever heard of this guy, so I don't know if he has any real insight. The bottom line is it seems that


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[Assistant] Three teams we've heard, I think Brian Windhorst put this out, the Nets, the Knicks, and the Heat are apparently all trying to get Donovan Mitchell. And I guess the question is, should the Cavs consider trading Donovan Mitchell?


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[Assistant] And if you got blown away with an offer, then I think you'd have to consider it, because they're not winning a championship this year. And you'd probably trade him at the end of this year anyway, if he's not gonna, if you think there's no chance of signing him.


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[Assistant] Uh, you'd have to do it. So, I think in the end, they will con- they should consider it, but the Cavs march to the beat of their own drummer. So I would be surprised if they did. But the funny thing is, if he wants to go to the Knicks,


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[Assistant] I mean, the Knicks are a decent team, but are they a championship contender with him? I'm not sure. Are they?


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[Assistant] A team like the Knicks or the Heat are going to give up more because they're going to feel like they can keep them.


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[Assistant] No, no, who cares about that? And the Knicks might be more desperate, and if you're trading for draft picks, I'd rather trade them to the Knicks because the Knicks are more likely to screw it up than the Heat are.


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[Assistant] Right, cause you, if you trade for Donovan Mitchell now, you get him for two postseason runs. You get him twice. That's why I think


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[Assistant] When, when the Cavs traded for Donovan Mitchell, the hope was that Evan Mobley would become a superstar, and then you'd have these, you'd have Mo...


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[Assistant] Three superstars essentially. Right. And you could win a championship. Well, that obviously Mobley has not gotten any better. No. He's just a, you know, I don't know, he's a nice player.


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[Assistant] You know, since the Browns joined the NFL, do you know how many times they have won 12 or more games? Since joining the NFL. Not me, A.F., A.F., A.A., F.C., or whatever day.


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[Assistant] Jerome Ford doesn't seem to hit the holes quick enough. I know there weren't many holes last week. But Kareem Hunt, being a veteran, having a probably better field awareness.


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[Assistant] Well, Bernie, this late in the season, everybody, like, beyond the guys who are hurt and can't play, everybody's banged up, right? How do you, are you so motivated by the thought of postseason that that gets you through? How does a player, especially a young player that doesn't have the experience,


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[Assistant] Push themselves through all the minor bumps and bruises to get through the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] Bernie, I'm curious your thoughts. Uh, David Njoku's been a guy who's been a decent player in his career, but this year he's taken it to another level. He is...


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[Assistant] I think he's playing like Kittle this year, because Kittle's a great two-way player. He's a great blocker. I fee- I feel like he's playing at that level.


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[Assistant] You know what? I'll take one Thornhill out because Ronnie Hickman's playing great. The Anthony Bell and Ronnie Hickman are doing a good job of safety. And then I'll boot out. Who else am I booting out? Uh,


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[Assistant] This is here. I just can't wait to, is there any way we can just skip to Sunday? No, Monday, because Monday is when my victory will be complete over you. Gotta wait till Monday night for it to happen.


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[Assistant] She lost. That's what happened. Like all she had to do was score like 120 points and Boone would have been eliminated and she couldn't do it. No, cause the last playoff spot is most points.


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[Assistant] If, if a fan comes up to you and is effusive in praise, love the show,


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[Assistant] One, that's more than one a day that reach out to you and say, a thousand before taxes. Okay, after taxes.


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[Assistant] Dude, don't listen to him. There's nothing wrong with it. Listen, if you want to do it, I got another idea. Let's take, we've got a corner up here with a lot of traffic. Let's put a stand up there and you guys can sit at it and sign photos for money. Would you do that? Sure.


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[Assistant] What I like about your hustle is there is a product involved. Not that there isn't a cameo. I don't know what, I don't even know how it works. I just know people that have done it.


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[Assistant] And I've talked to enough of them that have said, A, it wasn't worth my time. B, there wasn't component to it that felt like, do I really want to do this? Do I really? I think it's all about what you charge here. Listen, it's all up to the person. What I say for G is, G, I think what you could do is package it with product.


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[Assistant] I mean the odds of that are slim. No they are, but the question was at what point, like, to your point, we're damn close, and I think, I think a lot of teams, if they were dealt the same hand, would have already folded, but,


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[Assistant] There's no one player that can get hurt that tips him over, and I'm stunned that you said that that would be the case. Martin Emerson got hurt. I agree with him. So what? I agree with Martin Emerson. I'm surprised by both of you. But, but, I only agree with him if Denzel and Grant, obviously that's...


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[Assistant] They just won a game against a very good team, did they not? Yea. Okay, they, they, they did not have their best quarterback, they did not have their best running back, they did not have their top three tackles, they did not have their best cornerback, they did not have their top two safeties. Nope.


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[Assistant] Too much to overcome. Of course, every team in football has a point. And so what is that point? I think your explanation is perfectly legitimate specifically because the back end of this defense is so vital and they've already got two very important cogs out.


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[Assistant] Doesn't Jonathan Coachman do that too? The play-by-play? Coach used to do the play-by-play.


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[Assistant] We always talk about chemistry when it comes to teams. People don't talk about it as much with broadcasters.


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[Assistant] I, I know, I, I know your partner, Iron Eagle, a little bit, because we both started at the same radio station in New York. Yeaah. And, uh, he was on my podcast a couple of weeks ago, and I said to him, I said that I, I love you and Charles and Evan, I think you guys are a great team. I like when you guys call the game. You're my favorites on CBS.


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[Assistant] And he said in particular, he thought that you and he together,


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[Assistant] Hit your stride completely this year with your chemistry. I don't know that fans really think about chemistry at broadcasters, but you guys have a good time. I noticed this year you're like, you're busting heaven balls quite a bit, you know, like it's funny. You guys have a really good chemistry right now. It's gotta be a lot of fun doing the games.


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[Assistant] This team has just been steamrolled by injuries.


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[Assistant] How do you judge them in the, you know, in...


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[Assistant] Let me look at that. Well, that's all the way down to 11. The Steelers are the sixth seed, the Colts are the seventh, but you got the Bengals, you got the Texans, you got the Buffalo Bills, all right there.


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[Assistant] Charles, I'm curious, uh, I guess the favorites right now would probably be Gack or Purdy.


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[Assistant] And obviously if you're going to make a case for a non-quarterback, it's going to be Tyree Kill. And I think normally when guys get hurt, it sort of takes them out of the running for awards.


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[Assistant] But, and you mentioned that Miami hasn't really put it, put together those quality wins, but watching that game last night and watching what Miami's offense looked like when number 10 was on the field.


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[Assistant] And what they look like when number 10 was off the field, I'm okay with a vote for Tyree Kill this year.


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[Assistant] Strange, the gorgeous Christmas displays behind you.


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[Assistant] I think he should be right there. Who is your frontrunner? Lamar? To me, it's Dak. That's who I was going to say. I would pick Dak.


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[Assistant] But that was early in the season. I know, but you know, the Heisman conversation is a completely separate conversation. I think that, I think they blew it this year bigger than any year I can remember. The Heisman? Yes. Oh, I agree. I mean, I can't remember a year.


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[Assistant] But I think that the MVP thing this year is interesting because


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[Assistant] Sometimes in the Heisman vote, they'll compare, well, what happened when Ohio State played Michigan? You know, what happened when the Bianca Batuka faced Eddie George or whatever? It didn't cost Eddie the Heisman that year, but I'm wondering if there will be voters that look at the results from San Francisco Dallas. I'm not sure if anybody does that.


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[Assistant] But to the NFL, I think it's, I think to me it's three. It's Dak, it's Purdy, and it's Lamar. I think that's it.


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[Assistant] Couple of clarifications. No, we will not be kissing any babies. I don't know why Mike keeps saying kissing babies, because nobody's kissing anybody. You kissing a baby?


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[Assistant] I ain't kissing nobody's baby. You can't ask me that. Yeah, you can't kiss a baby. Softly kiss a baby. And number one, number two, I'd rather not shake hands. I'm a bit of a germaphobe. I'd rather fist bump you. So don't put me in an awkward position. People put out their hands. I often feel guilty and I shake hands even though I don't want to.


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[Assistant] The Joku Teller. I gotta like that one. Flacco Huntford. That's my order.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he did nothing in the other carries. The 4.1, they don't care about the average yards per carry. That's relevant.


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[Assistant] Nujoku, then Teller, then Flacco, then Hunt.


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[Assistant] We were across the board A's. All of us. Right. But they're studying every play. We're not doing that. I know they are, but we watch every play.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter. It's not that it doesn't matter, it's just that you take a little out of everything, right? So there's value to it, but it's not the end all be all. It's adding another layer of context.


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[Assistant] And so I brought up the Jimmy and Jimmy liked the idea. Take a look at that guy as a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] See what he can do. Use him in practice for a couple of plays. Install a package for him as a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I would not be opposed to them working him into the wide receiver group.


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[Assistant] I don't think he'd be open. You know, the Browns are second in the league in drops. You know who's first? Oh, they were first. How about I say they were first?


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[Assistant] And then the Big 10, they tackle all the time. Mike, what was his past defense grade? Newsome? Yea.


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[Assistant] By the way, I think in terms of Defensive Player of the Year, I think it's kind of wide open right now.


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[Assistant] By the way, that reminds me of two funny stories. I don't know if you guys have heard about this because you're probably not paying attention. Two funny stories out of New York media, guys I used to work with, uh, when I get a chance to rip them. Uh, number one,


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[Assistant] Who's part of the Giants Radio Network. My old station, The Fan in New York, carries the Giants. So he would regularly be a guest once a week with a new afternoon show. Guys named Sal and Brandon Tierney. I know both of them. I work with Brandon as well. I don't know Sal. Yeaah. So Sal was actually a producer when I was there.


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[Assistant] So they got into an argument with him over Kayvon Thibodeau. They called him a bust early in the season. And Karl Banks was like, he's not a bust.


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[Assistant] And they got it to the point where those guys hung up on Carl Banks, which I thought was way out of line. Why? To hang up on a guest, you know. Not just a guest. Carl Banks. On the Giants radio podcast team. And now they look even stupider because Carl Banks is right. Kavon Timberdose. When did they say he was the boss?


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[Assistant] What is the deal with him? Have we heard any updates on him? Because he's eligible to return at this point, but they haven't, you know, started the clock on that yet. What's the latest on him that you know?


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[Assistant] By the way, speaking of injuries, another quarterback done for the year, Jessica Broke, uh, Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] As a broken finger, he's out for the year. So now Easton Stick is going to start for the Chargers, which I, which is a great name. And I think he's like the 54th different starting quarterback, which is mind blowing. Uh, Mary Kay, there's another injury on the offensive line. We talked about the tackles, but even Pochich got hurt.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about the Joe Flacco thing, because there's a lot of, uh, uh, malcontents in the national media that are making a huge hullabaloo about the fact that Joe Flacco is back on the practice squad, which they had to, technically.


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[Assistant] Uh, obviously they have no fear of losing him. They must have an agreement here. But is this the week they finally sign him to the regular roster? And is there any story on this at all? Because it seems like some of the national media love pick on the Browns and they may make it a thing of this. What say you on it?


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[Assistant] But it's crazy to me that he wouldn't at least be top two or three. I see Mike McDaniel ahead of him. I love Mike McDaniel, but Mike McDaniel's got one more win and they've been like the healthiest team in the league. And he's playing in a...


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[Assistant] And for all the talk about the AFC North being disappointing, you look now, every team in this division is over 500. It's the only division in football.


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[Assistant] She's the best. Let me, let me, let me do this guys. Let me run this by you before you go to Mike real quick, alright?


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[Assistant] Well, let's do this, let's do this. Let's say the Browns win out, which is not ridiculous. Usually I'm like, no, no chance. I don't think it's crazy. It's unlikely, I think, but it's very possible. It's very possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.


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[Assistant] Play the schedule. Is play the schedule game with the Ravens. Okay. Let's try to be honest about it. I think they have to lose to Jacksonville, right? I don't know if they have to. One of those losses I think. We're not going to, I don't want to tell you the tiebreakers because I don't want it to influence you. Alright. Okay. This week, Ravens at the Jaguars. Who you got? Majority wins. Ravens?


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[Assistant] Jacksonville's not a good home team, so I would probably go with the Raven.


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[Assistant] It's common opponents. It's common opponents. Jacksonville. But they, the Browns beat the Niners. So if the Ravens lose to the Niners, the Browns would gain a game there, but they would state they would be equal on the Jaguars and, and, uh,


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[Assistant] So two, if they go two and two and lose to either the Steelers or Jags and the Browns went out, I believe the Browns would win. Again, it's like, it's like an eight leg parlay.


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[Assistant] I love that first. Nick Chubb. Yeah, I mean, it's a no-brainer Nick Chubb. I don't think it's a no-brainer. I think the right answer is Deshaun Watson, but I'm saying Nick Chubb. The right answer is probably Deshaun Watson. Because quarterback's the most important position.


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[Assistant] Now again, gee, I feel like an insane person saying, saying Nick Chubb. I really do. But it is Nick Chubb. Yea, it is.


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[Assistant] I feel the same because, well, Deshaun Watson, despite some struggles, has still played, in my opinion, the two best games by quarterback this year. The Titans game and the Ravens game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, it's one of those, the ball's gotta be out of his hand when he threw it.


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[Assistant] Clearly I'm not digging him for that. On the sack, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I would still say that Watson against the Titans was the best game, Watson against the Ravens was the second, and this was third.


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[Assistant] In my opinion. Wait, you've got Watson with two better games than Joe. Yeah, Watson against the Ravens. He was perfect in the second half. And he was horrible in the first half. He was 4 of 16 in the first half.


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[Assistant] He led them to a victory over the best team in the AFC. Given, understand, but I'm not going to give PJ Walker points because he beat San Francisco.


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[Assistant] I think in Nick Chubb, you're losing a top three at his position.


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[Assistant] When they last won a Super Bowl? When they beat Baltimore? When, when? When did that? Was it 10 years ago? Bull. So none of that matters. Do great defenses have never won Super Bowls?


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[Assistant] And I don't think that's debatable. If you told me right now, you can have Chubb back or Watson back. That's a decision.


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[Assistant] Again, nobody said you could, you could have crappy defense. Their defense was good. It was fine. Just like the Rams defense was good, but they didn't, none of those teams had a great defense. So, so of the, of the three parts, the components, defense, we always hear in the playoffs, what travels, defense, defense in the run game.


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[Assistant] So give me those things. Now, obviously you're going to need a passing game too. I think the Browns passing game and I love the point Mary Kay made about us getting too excited because I've heard some other people make that same point.


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[Assistant] Seven touchdowns in five games. Flacco's thrown five in two.


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[Assistant] I don't think our run game has regressed. I think our passing game has regressed. I'll make the point that it's gotten better. But I will not have to argue with anybody that our run game has regressed. We all recognize that. We do? You just said it was elite a month ago. It can be elite and still regressed.


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[Assistant] I'm actually surprised it's not higher for Chuck. People are so prisoner at the moment. Sorry Mike, what?


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[Assistant] I'm surprised it wasn't higher, because we're all kind of prisoner of the moment, right? And right now, Blacko's played well, and the running game's not very good, so.


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[Assistant] By the way, even though it was a bad track, the one game where we did get to see it looked pretty good.


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[Assistant] And that's why a runner like Chubb is such a luxury when you have to play cold weather games, wet, sloppy tracks. I don't think in general running backs are worth wins that often, but I believe if the Browns had Nick Chubb, there's no way to prove this and it's silly to say, but I'll say it anyway. I think if the Browns had Nick Chubb, they have 10 wins right now.


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[Assistant] Does he have that kind of accent? He does now.


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[Assistant] A lot of times, but 208. It's still not true. That means you're getting hit one out of every.


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[Assistant] I would like to think that if the four of us


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[Assistant] Took a hundred big league at bats. We'd come away with six or eight hits. How many?


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[Assistant] At 90, you immediately adjust to the quickness and the speed. You may need to start your swing the second the ball's out of the gate. How hard do the hardest throwers in your league throw?


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[Assistant] Well, you want us to go my league or the tournament that we just played? The tournament you were just in. We faced mid-80s in our tournament. Alright, so 90 for guys who haven't played 30 years. I was a solid high school player 30 years ago. Do you think you could get one hit out of 25 at-bats?


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[Assistant] He is the first starting pitcher, and I'm not 100% sure he's gonna be a starter, but I'm gonna say that he'll be their fifth starter or swinging starter. Yeaah. He's the first starting pitcher they've signed in free agency in how many years? I can't remember the last one they did. Take a guess.


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[Assistant] He pitched for the Reds last year and did a nice job in his swing roll. Uh, but he's a, you know, he's a 5th star. He's a flyer at a low price. And that's fine, but...


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[Assistant] And normally I wouldn't care that you spend 4 million on a backup catcher. I only care because I don't expect them to spend any money, so why do that? Yea, I don't know why they're doing that either when they've got young catchers that they want to develop. Right. I mean, does that mean that, I don't know what that means for Bo Nailer. No, I think he's just a backup. Bo Nailer's gotta play 120 games. Yea, but,


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[Assistant] Oh, so you don't think Bo Ventdale is on the Major League roster next? No, no, no. Bo Ventdale is playing, he's the starting catcher. So, who's the backup catcher? I mean, if it wasn't for Hedges.


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[Assistant] Particularly it matters because what else are they gonna spend? I, I, I have to believe they're gonna make a trade. By the way, you want to, you want me to see Jay, you want to see Jay lose his mind? Really lose his mind? And not just because arguing with me? Yesterday, I heard a rumor from, well, rumor. It was Hoynzy that put something out there.


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[Assistant] Paul, if that happens, they're going full on rebuild, and that means Bieber's gone, which I think he likely is anyhow. That also means Closet's gone.


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[Assistant] Mike, I'm sorry to cut you off. We have breaking news that it's not good. And I can't believe I'm saying this about this player. According to Jordan Schultz of Bleacher Report, Jedrick Wills had arthroscopic surgery this morning on his knee and will miss the remainder of the season.


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[Assistant] So now Jedrick Will's out for the year. I hate to see you.


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[Assistant] What's Joe Flacco gonna do in this game? I'll tell you what I think will happen.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think there is. We've seen all he's got. No, I mean, I think he could perform even better with white, but this is what he does at this point in his career. He gets it to the playmakers. I think he can develop more chemistry.


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[Assistant] With the guys besides Elijah Moore, you saw he threw the ball to Elijah Moore a ton, especially after Amari Cooper went out because he was most comfortable. I think it's important for Cedric Tillman to develop


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[Assistant] I think unlike the last two third round wide receivers, he's not a waste. And, uh, I, so I think that can develop, but in terms of his game plan, I just, what else can they do? He's not going to run faster over the week.


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[Assistant] With play action, the way Joe does it, it's still gonna fake eyes, even if you know it's coming, because you still, for a moment, are gonna think it's a run. You have to respect it.


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[Assistant] It happened just last week. Yea, two Sundays ago, Chris Olave had a concussion, left the game early, same as Amari Cooper did this past Sunday. Last Friday, five days after that game, same as Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] But I think Moore already has his role. Like he already established his role with Flacco last week. He had the 12 targets. I think it's, if Amari Cooper doesn't play the whole game, I think it's Cedric Tillman that's going to be asked to do more. Because I don't know that he's going to target Elijah Moore more than 12 times. I don't think his targets are going to change. I think Tillman's got to step up.


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[Assistant] And last week, one of the drops was, you could tell right before he called it, he tried to turn. Yes he did. Because he wanted to go upfield, which I get, you see receivers do that, but that's something you gotta guard against. It's a process. Catch the ball.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, it's a clean sweep. I would definitely much rather face C.J. Beathard because Trevor Hart's a way better quarterback. I understand he's limited, maybe 75%. I don't know.


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[Assistant] The comparisons with Joe Burrow, the thing I'll say, because Joe Burrow obviously didn't look like himself early in the year, but Burrow's injury was a muscle injury, right? That was a calf.


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[Assistant] He could, like, he was, you're playing and you're, you don't want to pull it again. Whereas the sprained ankle, it's more about just pain tolerance. And if they shoot it up, I don't think it's going to be a factor in the game. Now maybe I'm crazy, I don't know. But yeaah, I'd rather face 100% CJ Method than a 75% Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] I was, uh, second guessing myself today, but in the end I went with, I think Joe Flacco gives the Browns the best chance to beat the Jaguars on Sunday. I was going to push towards, I know, but, uh, there's a little part of me. I know nobody wants to hear this because Flacco played pretty well last week.


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[Assistant] There's a little part of me that thinks if they just, you know, obviously he got hurt so there was no choice, but that if they had stuck with DTR that he would continue to get better. I still believe that at this point in their careers,


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[Assistant] DTR's potential upside is higher than Flacco. It's hard to make that argument right now, but I believe that. I don't know if we'll see. I don't like the idea of committing to Flacco for the rest of the year, but in the end for this week with DTR still coming off injury, I think he gives you the best chance to win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got the Browns winning too. I didn't think I was going to at the beginning of the week, but with Ward back and, uh, and, uh, and Trevor Lawrence gone. Corner back. Denzel Ward picks off Beathard in a 24-17 win. I like that a lot. Corner.


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[Assistant] Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, and before we get into our next segment, I want to remind everybody that we are doing a TV show tomorrow and it's our first TV show where we're reacting to a Browns game since they played tonight.


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[Assistant] So it's 100% never gonna be, never before seen content on TV as Mike likes to sell it. And we're gonna be on WKYC from 1230 to 1.


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[Assistant] If you're out of market, you can watch us on the WKYC Plus app, so please follow us over there and support us. We appreciate it. Alright, I got a couple of beefs here.


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[Assistant] I think you're right. I think you're right. Alright, uh, Anthony, what do you got for us?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, just a reminder, we start at the two minute warning tonight, so we'll be there even though it's a late game. Don't worry about it, and we'll be here tomorrow morning as well. Then as we get into the next of it, also expect it today.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's uh, 2am. Also real quick before we get a DD in here guys, how cool would it be if Chubb and Watson were the one who broke the guitars? Cause they're keeping it super under wraps. What if it's both of them tonight?


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so before we get into our draft, I just want to remind everybody that you can like and subscribe to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show right here on YouTube. Like and subscribe is totally free.


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[Assistant] We have memberships if you would like to monetarily support and get some overtime content. We're going to be talking about the Cavs comeback last night. And yeah, we're going to get into our draft now.


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[Assistant] Well your headline is first up by the way. What's that? You got the first headline up here. Yea, let's get to it.


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[Assistant] Alright, so my headline, I'm still banking on first place. We're taking first class tonight, to first place. Rounds are going to clinch the playoffs with a 14-3 win at home. I think it's still going to be super low scoring. I don't expect that Jets even to score a touchdown, just a field goal. And Flacco will pull too, with short fields and turnovers.


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[Assistant] I'll take that. Okay. Uh, Wood Dog MTG wants to know, are any of us going down to the Muni lot tonight? I know I'm not. Are you going, Mike? I'm not. I'm going to West...


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[Assistant] Doesn't Colin Cowherd hate Cleveland? I don't watch enough of him. I don't know, he's just doing shtick.


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[Assistant] No, he has that spot taken. I actually love that it is December 21st. We're sitting here at about 1232 and we're talking about the Cavs and coaching issues and stuff as opposed to the Cleveland Browns and coaching issues in quarterback.


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[Assistant] Is the offense progressing, uhm, with the injuries we had last week and


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[Assistant] This time of the year to end up with a W after the way he threw three picks early in the game. Gary Danielson used to tell me that to be a great quarterback, you have to be able to throw five or six interceptions.


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[Assistant] I didn't really understand what that meant. And he said, well, because most cowards start throwing check downs after two or three, they won't go down the field. They won't throw three or four because they won't even attempt it afterwards. And for Joe Flacco to come into that game and show his experience like that, and then just, um,