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[Assistant] I mean, I thought you saw a different Josh Allen. I mean, I thought you saw a lot of high level, like, intermediate throws where you went, ooh, this is a tight window, and he put it on the money. So we'll see if he can continue to stay consistent with that. But again, I think it's another, here we go.


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[Assistant] You saw a lot there to go, the guy's got super, superstar talent. He really does. I mean it's, it's special. Is it still a little raw?


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[Assistant] You know, do- yes! I know it's not perfect. You know, again, there's another guy just like to pull the reins back a little bit every now and then and just be like, oh don't do that!


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[Assistant] You know, don't, don't try to jump over the defense end and get flipped and fumbled the football. Just, it's over. Go down. Save yourself. You're more important to the team. Don't, you know, don't turn the ball over that way. No, it's not perfect, but man, their offense is so dangerous because of him.


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[Assistant] And his ability to run the ball, his ability to make plays off schedule when he scrambles, and Ryan Dayball's got a good system.


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[Assistant] You know, he did, and he went kinda like New England, where he probably went, man, this is week one, I'm just gonna get off the Schneid, so we might run Josh Allen a little bit more, and we'll use it as a decoy from here on out. But, I think between that, and you know, you see Diggs, and what he brings to the offense, Brown, Beasley, it's a great combination, and I like their tight end too. Yeaah, watch out, I mean, if he could play like this,


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[Assistant] The Bills are going to be a real force in the AFC. And then, you know, just the flip side real quick with the Jets. Yeah, how much trouble are they in? Well, yeah, they're in trouble. They got a tough start of the schedule. And as you saw yesterday, there's no playmakers on offense. There's none.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know what else to say. Jameson Crowder is gonna have a whole lot of catches and do some good things and do all that, but he's not like a game breaker, change the other team's game plan type of thing.


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[Assistant] He had speed on that long test. He does got speed. There's no doubt. I no doubt. But he's just not the guy you're gonna line up outside and be like, hey, they're man to man. It's Jalen Ramsey. Can you run by him for us? Like that's not his game. He's more of a slot kind of receiver.


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[Assistant] There are two organizations that are in totally two different spots. I think that's really the big picture. Josh Allen's got support around him, he's got a really awesome defense, and he's got offensive talent around him too.


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[Assistant] The jets are in a rebuild right now. And it's, it's the first year of that rebuild, really, if you just, if I had to give you my assessment, so.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, we saw it. Yeaah, he's gonna, eh, I think it's only gonna get better too. I really do. Because now he's putting something on film, he has some success, Gruden's gonna go, oh okay, I can trust a guy when a game, a real game situation, Derek Carr's gonna like it, you know, and they'll be able to play off of it and some of the things he does that way too, but uhm, yeaah, he's a special football player.


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[Assistant] You know, he's got enough speed to bounce that around the corner and do all those type of things. So yeaah, that was a good start for them and a big win for the Raiders.


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[Assistant] That was a tricky game. Yeah, we all expect them to beat the Carolina Panthers, but you don't know what to expect from the Carolina Panthers. You're at a handicap sometimes. Carolina came back. They did. Moved the ball well. Teddy played well. You see they got some weapons on offense. They're a little scary that way. The big questions about both of these teams is their defenses. I think that's all there is to it. Both are very young and both lack


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[Assistant] You know, a game changer. And I think that's why you saw both teams kind of hanging around with a lead change. It's like no defensive player to stand out to make a play to go, Oh, we got a sack fumble or I got to pick six to finally take that possession away. And now we're up by 14 and we could take a breather a little bit.


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[Assistant] No, that didn't happen because there is lack of those type of guys on both of those teams.


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[Assistant] The finished product is so polished. Okay. Okay. And that's what I mean by Lamar Jackson. Oh yeah. Because, oh, good thing we didn't move him to wide receiver. Because again, we saw another, another step of growth for Lamar Jackson in the pass game yesterday.


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[Assistant] You know, one of the things we've talked about for the last year is, oh, when Baltimore can't run the ball, because Lamar Jackson in that pass game carried that offense. Well, you know, they might have been able to run the ball more than they want or did yesterday, but I think they wanted to throw the football a little bit.


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[Assistant] Holy cow did Lamar Jackson make a lot of unbelievable throws in that game. I mean, not just like, oh woah, there's Hollywood Brown, 50 yard bomb, he's wide open. No. When I talk about I'm wowed out by like a quarterback and his throwing,


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[Assistant] Holy cow that he makes so many throws into tight windows from different, you know, delivery points with his arm on the run. You know, oh wait, the guy's not even out of his break yet. Let me throw it cause I'm about to get hit. Bam, on the money. He's just, he's special.


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[Assistant] Everything he does, you know, he is, they have formulated the proper system around him and he makes the system better and of course the system makes him better, but I think that's the thing I was blown away by. I really was. There was some unbelievable high level, like,


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[Assistant] Whoa, that's, that's, that's a tight window. Damn, it's on the money. I mean, the touchdown pass to Willie Snead, he throws like a crossing route. They got a guy in front of him and a guy behind him. He put it in the perfect spot. The touchdown to Mark Andrews, the second one, was like a little, it's just a go route.


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[Assistant] And the coverage was kinda inside and he read it on the go and he was like, wait, I'm gonna stop him from going in there, there's people in there, let me just stop him and put it on his shoulder. Bam, outside shoulder, perfect strike, touchdown. They ran the Kansas City two jet wasp.


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[Assistant] Two Jet Wasp. Now why? To Hollywood Brown? To Hollywood Brown. That deep corner route, right? 37 yard gain. Yep. I admit, yeaah. That was Two Jet Wasp. They did it a little different way. But again, Joe Woods, defense coordinator from the Browns, came from San Francisco. Same coverage. They're playing it.


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[Assistant] Baltimore used a little play action pass, but it was the same concept. Here goes Hollywood Brown, deep post slash cross, whatever that is. The outside receiver is going to run the in cut.


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[Assistant] The corner doesn't think that guy, Hollywood Brown, is going to come back out, so he collapses on the end cut.


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[Assistant] And it's cover three zone. He's got to be back there. Yeah. So it just shows you that they go, well, my homes can do it. Lamar can do it. He can make that kind of throw. We did. And we have Hollywood who can run almost as fast as Tyree kill. So, uh, I just was so impressed with the polish of the passing game.


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[Assistant] Exactly, you're exactly right. It's like we just talked about with the 49ers and Kyler Murray. He handcuffs you because you're worried about like, wait, I want to rush and go after the guy.


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[Assistant] If I go crazy and miss, I'm gonna leave a 12 foot hole and then forget about it. One of the things I wrote in my notes was, like, what the hell is Cleveland's pass rush doing? How many times are we gonna run by him and then just let the Red Sea part to where he can run wherever he can run? And, uh, no, that was a good observation by you.


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[Assistant] They're ravens, I mean, good, good team obviously, but.


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[Assistant] No, they did not look good, they were overmatched, their defense, which I know has some talent, yeaah, they were overmatched by, you're worried about the run game, oh no, they got J.K. Dobbins now, and then when Lamar throws the ball like that, I mean, forget about it. You can bring back the 85 Bears, it's gonna be tough to stop that Ravens team, alright? But then, I think the other thing that I'm, you know,


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[Assistant] The Browns, and I wanna watch this, I haven't watched the Browns offense yet, but a little bit like we said with Minnesota.


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[Assistant] You know, I just worry that there's not enough offense. That's what I worry about. This is what I worried about with Minnesota last year. I always said it. If you can't run the ball, is there enough other stuff to move the ball? And I'm not sure Kubiak and Stefanski have that, so we'll see where this goes from here. One more game to give the headline to.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I, I wanna do something around Joe. I mean, that's where I wanna go, like, not your average Joe. Right. Or, I think what he really showed me is his Joe coolness. That's really what he did. Sure. Again, the one thing I'm amazed by with Joe Burrow is the way he handles himself, and then when there's chaos around him on the field, he is always calm and cool and collected.


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[Assistant] And he was under duress for moments of this game. It's not going to really say it with like sacks that the Chargers got. But his ability to be smart, get the ball out of his hands before he's going to get sacked, or make somebody miss, I mean it really kept them out of a lot of bad situations on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] That's why I went with Joe Cool because I don't care how the game ended up, right? I know they lost. He was cool and calm that last drive. I mean, he really was. When I got home and I watched it back, I was like, wow.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, high level throws, the right decisions, got unlucky with AJ Green pushing off, that was pass interference, so you gotta call that. Or we'll never have defense in football. Uhm, and then you miss a chip shot field goal.


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[Assistant] Again, they're a work in progress, but I like his game. I really do. And I know he missed a few throws and...


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[Assistant] Had the shovel pass that got intercepted where, you know, I heard him talk. He said he saw Melvin Ingram. He just tried to squeeze it in there. Hey, he's a rookie. He's not perfect, but I think that's a good start for him. And I don't want to give, take away credit from the Chargers. I think you're gonna see a lot of games like this from the Chargers this year. This is the way they want to play. Yeah. Right here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think so. And I think that's the way Anthony Lynn wants to play. It's part of the reason I think he...


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[Assistant] Wanted Tyrod Taylor to be the starter. He went, oh, alright, I've seen enough of this Philip Rivers turnover, we're gonna throw the ball, all this stuff. Let me run the ball, cause that's what his specialty is, Anthony Lynn. And Tyrod Taylor takes care of the football, and as you could see yesterday, I mean, that defense is damn good.


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[Assistant] That's what I mean. I think that's what they're going to pound the rock. I think they're going to stay very patient with the run game and go off of that.


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[Assistant] So we got through every game. That was good. We got two tonight. Giants, Pittsburgh. Got Denver, Tennessee. Who you liking those games? Who you thinking? I like Steelers.


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[Assistant] Bill Cower picked him. To win the Super Bowl. He picked him to go to the Super Bowl. I don't know if he went. And there was another one that I, I want to say maybe Howie Long, somebody there that I saw went, oh he went with the Steelers too. Uh, Tony Dungy.


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[Assistant] I'm excited to watch them in Big Ben tonight. And then you got the Titans and Broncos after that, which, uh, has been changed cause of Novon Miller, but I think that could be sneaky good too. I do. So who are you taking? I'm going Tennessee and Pittsburgh. I am. Uh, my scores just to throw them out there cause I've


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[Assistant] I'll just, I'll let you know just what they are here. Here I go. I think I win, uhm, Titans 23-17, Steelers 30-20.


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[Assistant] It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. It's gonna be weird this year. It is. And the more I sat there and watched too, I just kept going, man, the good quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] With, if they just have a halfway decent offensive line have just a great advantage this year. Can call out more stuff. Call out more stuff. There's no chaos. Hey, noise adds to chaos and communication failures.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe you even think unclearly at times because it's so loud or whatever else. Now there's none of that. The offensive line's always communicating properly. The defensive line's not getting a jump.


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[Assistant] At the line of scrimmage and it's all to me favors the great quarterbacks and the offensive lines that way to where they're just, there's nothing to rattle them. This won't rattle. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Clap it up. I don't have this to rattle. That's how we do it, baby. Well done. Hour 30, week 1. I think we got it.


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[Assistant] Alright, peace out. We'll be back on Wednesday. You know we got more deep dives and a lot of other crap we're gonna talk about. And when I say crap, I mean good football stuff. Good crap. Just so you know that. Good crap if there's such a thing. Ahmed Fareed.


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[Assistant] Here in the house, uhm, for the, what day is this? Second or third day of it. Yeaah. I don't know. Seems like forever. And, uh.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, well, you know, I'm done crying, let's move on.


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[Assistant] Well, okay, I'll make it quick. Uhm, you know, it's like growing up.


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[Assistant] Uh, you didn't need covers, nothing, just something to lay on, uh, in the, in the house I grew up in with my, of course, I had eight, we had eight kids, mom and dad, all of us crammed into two rooms and, um,


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[Assistant] So you, you survived. I actually thought about it. I go, okay, I have actually slept well in the heat. We had the windows open last night. Thank God it was in the sixties. So that was good.


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[Assistant] I'm driving along yesterday and it talked about health and this thing on this station I was listening to. And they say at night, you should have your thermometer set.


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[Assistant] At 65 at the highest and all the way down to 60 is optimum for your body, sleeping, everything else. So there you go there.


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[Assistant] It's all good. And, uh, hopefully they'll get here within the next few days. They say next Tuesday, but they always give you the worst case scenario. So hope it gets better. And, uh, hey, but Antonio Brown. Yeah. Piggyback on that dad.


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[Assistant] Well, I think what you said is really true. Every year you, no matter how much you train and what you do, you're gonna lose a bit of speed.


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[Assistant] Tremendous amounts of speeds at the end of their careers.


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[Assistant] But they turned into different players. They used their size. They were with John Gruden too there for a while. That really helped them and, you know, wasn't so much about running by people. It was running the scheme and really being smart, knowing where to run, how to work it, how to settle down, all those things.


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[Assistant] And Ritz Gannon running the show, it worked well. I don't see Antonio Brown as that type of guy. I see him strictly.


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[Assistant] Fast, great route runner, really get in and out of brakes, uh, as good as anybody I saw for a long time. But having time off like that.


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[Assistant] It takes a while to get back into NFL game.


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[Assistant] shape and even when he does that, he still will not be the same guy we saw before.


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[Assistant] If I was probably a general manager, I'd be looking into it very hard, depending on my team, where it's at, what I think the needs are.


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[Assistant] And, and I would take a flyer on him for sure. And you know, the thing is now, if you do take a flyer, you will get him most likely on your terms. And, um, so you can deal with it. If it doesn't work, have a really short, uh, time period. In other words, if something starts to go wrong, gone. See you Antonio. It's over.


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[Assistant] You know, they'd have been creative with him. It would have been awesome. It would have changed the Patriots football team, but Antonio refuses to make it work.


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[Assistant] No, I would not. I think both of those teams do not need him and the only thing, they got enough talent at that position and the football team overall.


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[Assistant] He's, I don't know if he can add to the team. He just maybe takes away from other guys and you've got guys that are growing and getting better and either team. I don't think he fits either team in many, many ways. And, uh, and I think we've seen if he's not.


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[Assistant] Well, the big thing is, is their defense first, you know, can they get a consistent pass rush where it gives them a chance in big situations?


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[Assistant] Which they seem like they ran a lot last year. You know, they played a lot of close games or as I watched them, but they, you know, they just don't have finishers. That's one thing. In a Derek Carr conversation, watching TV over at my daughter's house yesterday.


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[Assistant] It was on everything. Derek Carr did. Oh, they got Marcus Mariota. Oh, Marcus Mariota. He's going to challenge him for the job. No, he's not. I mean, come on. What are you blind? Uh, you know, people that say all these things and Derek Carr, you know, showed a little, uh, what's the word? You know, he got his damn moxie.


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[Assistant] Yeah, speak up because you know, and I really believe this. John Gruden is doing him a disservice by always the draft. Oh, Tom Brady, we're gonna look into him. We look into everything. All good for you. You're the only team that does that.


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[Assistant] Nobody else looks into everything. And in the constant, oh, we might draft this guy. We're going to draft that guy. It's always a question. Come on, let it go.


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[Assistant] Good thrower, accurate as hell, throws a perfect spiral, good size, moves around, he does it all. Good decision maker, he was careful with the ball, but you know, there is a point, you know, that


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[Assistant] Sometimes you just can't worry about striking out. You gotta go ahead and swing hard.


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[Assistant] And go for it. If you strike y'all big deal, wait for the next plate apparent. So that would be it. But that conversation wears me out. I am so sick of it that it's every time I see it, I actually watched it for about 10 seconds.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, started hearing the, you know, the overall, what it is, the overall perception.


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[Assistant] Of Derek Carr is not what it should be because of all these, this talk. That's the point. TV commentators almost thought, well, you know, Derek Carr's gotta do this and that. No, no. Derek Carr's doing fine. He's the least of their worries with the Las Vegas Raiders, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] We'll see. I gotta see it. You know, I don't see enough designs. I watch a lot of Raider games. I'm not gonna say I study Derek Card and Raiders every week.


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[Assistant] But I studied them a lot and I never looked at it and went, wow, nice.


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[Assistant] Nice design, gave their car chance for a shot down the field. Uh, somebody, you know, I didn't see enough of that. So, but I saw a lot of, you know, all little safe completions and you know, he has to be too perfect for him to score sometimes.


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[Assistant] Seven yard pass, this whatever, this, a run on third down, all these things. You know, this league.


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[Assistant] It's about a lot of things, but one thing is explosive plays.


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[Assistant] I don't even know where the Raiders rank. And you know what? I don't care. I'm not gonna look it up.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't care. In my eye, as I watch them, I just don't see that. I don't see where the game is. Boom, boom, boom. Here's a chance to go for it. And which, you know, you set these things up and there's always many opportunities in the game to look for the big play. And I didn't see it enough in the Raiders.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I'll do it week one or two because there's so much that's going on.


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[Assistant] You know, okay, I got it. Okay, let's talk about Tom Brady again today. What do you think?


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know, just, but there's, there's so many things out there that we just beat in the ground and turn it around. And, uh, you know, there's so much to talk about the NFL, but


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[Assistant] Usually only centers around about three or four topics for weeks every time.


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[Assistant] I know what people point to, like the Philadelphia game at the end of last year, he did not throw the ball well. He got away from me, but you know, he plays in Dallas, perfect conditions. You go up to Philly. It was a little, I can't remember what quite the weather was, but it wasn't great. It was cool and windy. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And then what do you do? You're going to trade for who?


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[Assistant] You're going to draft who and then groom him for a team that's always trying to win now. So Jerry Jones and them, I think they know what they're doing. They were hoping to get him on a five year contract that didn't work out. So they pushed it down the road and they'll go from there.


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[Assistant] They're just letting time play itself out and sees where it goes.


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[Assistant] I'm a big believer in Dak Prescott. Do I think he's one of the top 10 throwers in the league? Absolutely not. But, it's all the other things.


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[Assistant] And everything about him, you know, maybe it's just cause he was young and


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[Assistant] And he fit him with some of the other players, but the players were so behind him. And yes, Tony Romo, he, he had a really terrific career and all that. And I'm sure, and I don't blame him wanting to get back into that lineup because he saw a chance that team was going to go to the Superbowl and they were a little unfortunate.


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[Assistant] Dak's presence, his play, his personality, who he is, all of it was so really off the charts during that time with that good team that there was no way they could take him out of the lineup.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's all they did. They kicked the can down the road. He's gonna be their guy. I would be really shocked if he all of a sudden has a bad year this year. I think it's gonna work out. And uhm, you know, again.


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[Assistant] Two things. One, where they gonna find another quarterback like him out there. And the other thing is, uh, more importantly, what team is really gonna go, hey,


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[Assistant] Let's go out there and I'll be in my contract that's just off the chart because


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[Assistant] No, it was okay. You know, it's like that. Is he playing out? Well, they can still franchise them again next year, right?


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[Assistant] Yes. Okay, so they can do that. So they can still kick it down the road a little if they want. But again, there's nowhere for Dak Prescott to go. Nobody's going to come to the Cowboys and go, we're going to offer you the picks and all the other things that go with it.


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[Assistant] I hate to admit this, but man, being the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, that's a pretty big deal.


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[Assistant] And you got a good team around you so you stay where you're at and hope you get through these seasons or this season where you can get the contract you really want.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I think everybody knows what to judge and do what they think is right for themselves and their family. That's what we see. And of course, I think there's other players that look at it differently. One, maybe they're more susceptible to it. Some of the big guys, they know that weight, the size, all that could be.


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[Assistant] make them a little more, uh, vulnerable, susceptible to the COVID-19, but also I think we're seeing some players going, wow, this is a good time for me. I got guaranteed money in my contract. It's coming up to sit out to get better.


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[Assistant] Just give yourself that extra time to really heal. I, I, CJ Mosley comes to mind when I see that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, time, he, he probably needs more time. And, and so now he really gets to use that time to get well. They come back to the team and really serve the team what they paid him for. So we're seeing a little bit of everything and I'm really waiting for the big one. It's your devious white for the Buffalo Bills.


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[Assistant] Yeah, now if he decides to opt out, now that's a big deal. Cause he is.


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[Assistant] He's not step on Gilmore, but he's not far behind and they really count on him a lot in Buffalo. So he, that's the one I'm really looking for or looking out today to see if he stays or.


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[Assistant] Uh, nothing. There's nothing here. I'm in a dark room by myself and so I don't know what. It's probably my brain, you know, jiggling in my head.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean there's so much uncertainty, but you know, these coaches and the league and everything, they're so on top of everything and they got contingency plans.


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[Assistant] Uh, they got four or five of them ready to go. And, uh, it sounds like so far just what I'm.


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[Assistant] And you know, you have to deal with it. I mean, I always say this to you guys and everybody. Football is a game of adversity. If it can go wrong, it goes wrong.


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[Assistant] And man, this is the ultimate. So, but I think the league and the players and the coaches, they're up to the task. And I think we'll get the season in. I really do. And uhm, I hope it goes by with


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[Assistant] You know, with not too many people getting sick or catching the virus, I'm hoping for that too. And I think if they all, they're doing it at the facility, now the responsibility of the players, that's the big thing. When they leave, please, you know, I'm sure the coach every day, guys, please.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, everybody, I know it's about family, but we're talking about months.


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[Assistant] Well, FaceTime every night and everybody will do their thing. You just gotta, that's how I would feel. So I know a lot of players don't feel that way.


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[Assistant] But, uh, if it comes to that, all the players are not gonna...


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[Assistant] As you bring it up, I think it does. You know, uhm, I think if you're very careful, which everybody should be,


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[Assistant] Uh, and everything like that, I think they can find a way to make this work. Uh, so.


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[Assistant] We might have Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and 10 stars out. You know, the league's gonna go on.


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[Assistant] You know, so that's what I think. So you just got to deal with it and somehow try to find a way to feel the team, no matter how many players a particular team loses more players than


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I think about it all the time, especially during this time.


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[Assistant] It hung over everybody's head all during training camp. And training camp just had a really different feel to it. It just wasn't like we were into it, knowing we were going, because I think we knew there was going to be a strike after week two. And it, that's, and I remember it, the enthusiasm.


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[Assistant] I guess. Well, there was no fall, there was no fall off from Lawrence crossing over with our team really. Guys were mad, but you know, we had quite, we had a few players crossover.


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[Assistant] Of course he played linebacker, but I think they played him tight in some. They were designing pass plays for him because they went, okay, we're, we're in trouble here. Let's try to win one of these games. And it was a close game, but we found a way to lose it. So, but yeah, I forgot how many guys we had to cross the line, but.


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[Assistant] When it was over, I don't remember anybody having hard feelings towards anybody else. I didn't, I don't remember even hearing bad words, uh, quiet. Yeah, I think when it was over, we were just relieved. Let's get back and finish the season and see what happens.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I forgot we had a Monday night game against San Francisco. Well, Jeff Rutledge went in, but was he the quarterback?


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, as far as miles per hour throwing the football, I definitely believe and I'm pretty confident that Josh Allen can throw it harder.


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[Assistant] I can see Ahmed's looking it up probably right now at the combine. Who threw it harder? And I think that Josh Allen can throw it farther than Patrick Mahomes too. Do you really?


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[Assistant] Catches it right. Yeaah. He's gonna throw it over 80. I, I don't think Patrick Mahomes can throw it over 80 yards right now. No. It'll be, it'll be close. But I, if I hit the bed on it.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't bet a lot of money because I'm not that sure, but I would say Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] But I don't see Justin Herbert's arm in the same world as I do Mahomes and Josh Allen when it comes to power. It's good. Mahomes! It's really good.


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[Assistant] Well let me, I'll give us a real quick answer. Mahomes never, probably in a game, only turns it on about three or four times.


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[Assistant] A very controlled thrower, throws it, you know, a very catchable ball. Uh, in other words, never tries to overpower unless he has to. Cause he, you know, a lot of times you see he doesn't throw great, he spirals a lot of times because he just gets the ball there with


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[Assistant] With arm accuracy, he's using his, you know, he's not trying to rip it, he's just trying to make sure it's right on target. But then all of a sudden you just see one and you go, oh wow, okay, he knew he had to turn the speed on, he did it.


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[Assistant] And, and again, and Christopher knows, it's, it's gonna become the way you gotta play.


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[Assistant] You've got a three-year window, maybe four, to really desolidify that you're the guy. And you've got to be on the right team and all that. Just look at all the guys. Tannehill, Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston. You know, high picks that just...


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[Assistant] You know, have to switch teams. Didn't catch it right. Let's move on to the next guy. So there's so many good quarterbacks that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, he's got a really good arm, but you know, leverage and height and all those things are going to keep him from throwing at 80 yards and throwing with the same power. The other guys, they just have.


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[Assistant] And uh, he's, he's just turned in and he's a guy that throws it with touch with the most spin on the ball that I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, you're right. Yeaah. Listen, I watched this highlights yesterday. I don't know why I was watching and doing stuff with Green Bay. And I...


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[Assistant] Uh, the other half, he was falling sideways, backwards, you know, he never gets set to really do it, but a couple of times he had to, and he did, of course, right on target, in a tight space, right into the chest of receivers. So, he's still accurate, he still has it all.


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[Assistant] Uh, conversation, how many years is he having Green Bay? You know, so, hey.


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[Assistant] And all that, and I, I mean this, I've never seen throw a ball, it wasn't a perfect spiral. And he can drop it and throw it from every angle. And he's so much more mobile than people give him credit for. But he's just one of those guys, because of that, he's got a, you bring his name up,


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[Assistant] On, uh, any of the shows, ESPN, anybody, all the morning shows, maybe, well, not you, Christopher, but everybody else. Oh, wait, let's not talk about Matt Stafford. Who's he?


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[Assistant] Who cares? He can't win. And that's the end of his story when they talk about him. It's crazy. I hope he stays healthy.


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[Assistant] But he's good enough to make them better than everybody thinks. If they can get to eight, eight or nine and seven, I think that will save everybody's job in Detroit.


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[Assistant] We're in this very short period of time. It's not that short where we are both in our forties. Right. Working together. Yes. You should enjoy it each month while it's still there. Yeah. Yeah. And you heard quarterback Jeopardy is back today. I am so pumped. I've had to live without it for two to three months. Had a lot going on up here thinking about how to maybe stump you. So it's, it's making a comeback today.


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[Assistant] Pete D was way behind this. It was his idea to bring it back, which I was all for. And then he's like, and here are 18 different questions. Pick five. So this is Pete D driven for sure.


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[Assistant] Do you think, thinking about where it's going, do you think they'll get to a point and they should get to a point where these situations pop up, the team that is at fault should just be charged with a loss?


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[Assistant] And I do think it's more likely than not that this situation will come up again. I think they'll be pushed back from the team, uh, that is not, again, I say at fault here, if that fits, they'll be pushed back from those kinds of teams. And I think they will get to the point where it is a win for one team and it's a loss for the other.


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[Assistant] Two score game, it never felt that close to me. No. It felt like a three or four score game the entire time. Agreed. So let's start with the Chiefs offense against the Ravens defense. And game ball. You have one game ball to give. You're giving it to Andy Reid and Eric, the enemy, and they can kind of split it. Or you give it to Patrick Mahal.


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[Assistant] Exactly. I'm going to ask you if and when they did come off with that aggressive game plan for the Baltimore defense. But you say aggressive with the Chiefs, and I used to think of aggressive with an offense. Okay, we're taking shots downfield. We're going up big. To me, their aggressive is


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[Assistant] Did you see Baltimore doing anything that provided those moments where Holmes was like, I don't know. I don't know what's up here.


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[Assistant] There's no shame in having, uh, Patrick Mahomes have an MVP type performance. They join all kind of defense these last three years who were in the same boat, the chief scoring in upper thirties. That's going to happen. But if they had a chance to play him again next week, what should they do different, right? To not give up in the thirties, but maybe somewhere in the mid twenties.


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[Assistant] And we always give credit and I think he deserves it to Andy Reid for his creativity and for beating the aggressive defenses. But I just want to speak up for Mahomes in addition to the talent, the fact that he's not confused with these looks at that age. I mean, I don't think we talk enough.


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[Assistant] And it was an out and up. And there's no reason to call a five yard out on third and long because what DBA is going to bite on?


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[Assistant] You think there should have been, there was supposed to be a free safety in the, in the middle?


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[Assistant] But nobody covering the curl flat can stay with number 10 for the Chiefs. I mean, no one can stay with him down the field. No. 40 yards down the field. No, well this, that was Michael Hardman down the field.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't have given up, if that was a classic cover three, where they weren't matching up and basically playing that. If they were in three deep.


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[Assistant] So that plays one example, the Chiefs having their way with the Ravens. Amazing. Earlier this week. Yeah. Yeah. Tremendous performance. Other side of this matchup, Lamar Jackson, Ravens offense put together one touchdown drive. They didn't have a single touchdown drive, I believe through three quarters. What happened with that part of the matchup?


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[Assistant] On Monday night, I have written down, uh, playmakers in the back end. That's right. Three safety types. Man, that's where I'm going next. On the perimeter.


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[Assistant] Once you get past how well they did up front, I mean, the back end, I don't know if it's the creativity or just the athleticism they have back there or the scheme, but I thought of the perimeter and you point out bringing things back inside.


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[Assistant] My eyes started to go from the physicality up front to what they were doing to the back end.


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[Assistant] Creativity is what we use a lot for what Kansas City does on offense. How about creativity for what Spags is doing defensively?


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[Assistant] They didn't even come close to shutting that off. I think if you lined up every game from Sunday and Monday and even throw in the Thursday night game and break it down into every facet.


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[Assistant] I don't know if there was a more disappointing facet of what we just saw than the Baltimore passing offense this past week under 100 yards passing around three yards per attempt. I mean, those are atrocious numbers for any passing offense. So


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[Assistant] With the run being stuffed early, I mean, the passing attack never ever came close to coming around.


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[Assistant] So I want to zoom out from this game a little bit and think about that Baltimore offense and go back to the last game of last year in the playoffs for Tennessee. I don't know schematically what they did. It was the same result. Baltimore was so much lesser than what we've gotten used to.


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[Assistant] I think one touchdown drive, and I think to, to sound an alarm or to be panicked about the offense that next to Kansas City has been the best offense in the league the last 20 games. I don't want to go there.


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[Assistant] But to not say, okay, twice in the last four games,


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[Assistant] This offense has had it handed to them by who they were playing. What are the similarities between what Tennessee did to end the season last year and so what Kansas City did Monday?


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[Assistant] So kind of finishing right where you started with as part of the matchup, but the aggressiveness, we're not on our heels, we're coming after you even though this is the offense that's been kind of setting the pace the last season and a half.


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[Assistant] You see how teams go to school off of what they did and also off of what Tennessee did to end their season last year. Alright, Texans and Deshaun Watson. Houston have lost, they've lost to Kansas City. They've lost to Baltimore, the two teams we just talked about. And now they've lost to Pittsburgh. They were winning at halftime. They didn't score a point in the second half. What happened to Watson and the Texans offense?


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[Assistant] I want to get to the protection because people obviously point to that with how often he's sacked. But when you say diversity, are you, are you talking about the formations and the motions or the actual schemes once the ball is sacked?


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[Assistant] You think he's not using enough because the personnel around Ashan is in there?


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[Assistant] It's not just the second half in what we're talking about. They got shut out. But in this time, through three games, where points, yards, and passing efficiency are at an all-time high for three games. They have 20 points in a game, 16, and 21.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're down there with like the Jets, Giants, and Broncos of the world right now. And they have Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Okay, so then offensive line pass catchers scheme, which of those three things are you concerned about most?


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[Assistant] And Deshaun was 5-9 for 62 yards in a pick in the second half. I felt like they hardly had the ball.


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[Assistant] I know. And it was, it was one of the classic rolling to your right and throwing a little bit late. Yeaah. Not all the way to the middle. Right. Uh, but kinda back to the middle. Yeaah. Too far. They converted a third down, which was rare for them in the second half. They converted a third down a couple plays before. And he did the same thing, right? He did the same thing. Right.


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[Assistant] And he's getting sacked a lot too. Five times on Sunday and 13 times for the year. Such a fine line with him. Like the pick we're talking about. You don't want to tell him to not do that because he makes it happen a lot.


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[Assistant] But he's getting sacked more than other quarterbacks too because of how much he's moving around.


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[Assistant] Alright, so they, they follow 0-3. 0-3 for the Texans. Steelers doing great. And we always talk about Kyler Murray in a brief way. Like, hey, he's, he's an expert in what he's talking about. Let's get into him in a little bit. Okay. And the fact that the Cardinals lost for the first time. Bad second half against the Lions.


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[Assistant] What happened in that one with a specific eye on Kalamur?


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[Assistant] I have a question here, uh, at Tyler Oxley 3. What happened to Kyler Murray? Was he just making bad throws or was Patricia confusing him with different coverages? So it sounds like some bad throws. Yea, bad throws. Like what Patricia does. I do. It was more of which one?


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[Assistant] You seem, you seem pleasantly surprised. I am. Exceeded expectations. And I know you've liked Kyler a lot. Right. He's not exceeding. What part of this team is, is even better than you thought?


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[Assistant] Well part of the post-game narrative doesn't mean it's true, is that he didn't call a good game.


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[Assistant] So we'll see. I think we hit it all there though. Come back and spend some more time with the Cardinals. It's fun to get into these teams that we don't end up spending quite as much time with. Yeaah. Alright, other side of that. Seahawks, Cowboys. Two teams that we know very well. Oh baby. Great game. 38-31 Seattle wins. Let's kick this off here by taking a look at some MVP odds.


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[Assistant] Provided by our partners at Points Bet Sportsbook and Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes up there at the top and Wilson leading the way right now. Ooh baby.


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[Assistant] Just like last week, I sat right here and said, it feels like he's having this kind of season where you just hope when you play him, you get the one or two bad games that he's gonna have throughout a regular season. Good luck. Did not have it against the Cowboys, so.


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[Assistant] What layer of new or specific can you add to what he did well Sunday against Dallas?


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[Assistant] So, back enough to talk about Kansas City Baltimore, I asked you who you would give the game ball to, to Mahomes or to Andy Reid. For this one, is it to Schottenheimer or to Wilson?


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[Assistant] And as you're thinking about it, I want to point out too, last year about this time you were saying Wilson's great, he's not getting enough help with the schemes, with the formations, with the motions, that's what they need to take the next step.


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[Assistant] Next time he plays, watch how he drops it in between 25 and 40 yards too, where it's not, it's not the short one, it's not the big over the top, but the in between ones, his touch in his field there, maybe it's even better this year than it has been. It's off the charts.


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[Assistant] How about Dallas? Yeah, Dallas defensive. They've got 77 points in the last two games.


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[Assistant] I think those are both two perfect examples of if their defense can go from concern to average.


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[Assistant] They're very good. They don't have to be great on defense. They're just the middle of the road, both sides, which to me is a good segue to talk about the Cowboys offense. Be ready to go there. Yeah, I think so. I don't think there's


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[Assistant] Yeah, which is more impressive that Wilson made that throw because when you know you're looking deep first, you kind of set your feet and your balance to make that throw. When you're looking underneath and say, oh, that guy 35 yard downfield, he's the guy. It makes it even tougher.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. And the offenses are also recognizing what you just said. Okay, the run defense is really good. The pass defense has been awful. NFL record 1292 pass yards through three games.


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[Assistant] It's nice that you recognize what they're doing well, uh, defensively up front.


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[Assistant] Back end, why, why have they been so poor?


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[Assistant] Which of these two defenses that we saw in this game, Cowboys or Seahawks, I brought this up earlier, do you think is closer or more likely to make that jump from, hey, this is a problem right now, to being average middle of the road?


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[Assistant] Sounds like you're leaning towards Seattle being of, of, of two difficult situations maybe closer to being okay.


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[Assistant] You could still be in the league at age 40 throwing five touchdowns a game if you were up against that guy.


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[Assistant] I have this written down. I want to hear your answer to this. There are five teams at one and two in the NFC, including the Saints and Cowboys. Which one concerns you more?


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[Assistant] Keyword disruption. Yeaah. And lack thereof.


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[Assistant] Alright, I think I got it. I got the next play call. Alright. Yeah. Nick Foles, Mitch Trubisky. Okay. Let's back up to Atlanta. Yep.


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[Assistant] Nick Foles comes in, it's 26 to 10, or he'd been in, but 26 to 10, Falcons leading the Bears, about seven minutes left. What happened?


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[Assistant] Right. Here's a curious question. I've read this a couple of times. I had my, uh, my mind went there as well because Trabisky had a very nice late comeback in week one. Yeaah. Which was just two weeks ago. Right. So Foles does it again now two weeks later. Why does Foles deserve to start based off of that? Right. When Trabisky just did it two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] He had a 4th and 6th where he had a 7. He hit a corner route and he was open, but he cut it loose at just the right time and threw a great ball in a tough spot. And to me, that's when it really started. It was 26-10. They convert that 4th and 6th with a really nice throw. And that's when I kind of sat up and thought,


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[Assistant] Okay, maybe, maybe. Maybe I got a chance. Right, right. Because, I mean, to answer my own question to you, why was this comeback better than the one two weeks ago? You have to include the three years leading up to it when the offense just felt limited. Even when it did well enough to win,


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[Assistant] It felt limited, and when you come back from that kind of deficit in the fourth quarter, you've got that kind of experience. Super Bowl MVP, I believe he was MVP at the Super Bowl. Everybody just kind of walks into the building a little bit different way. Maybe our offense won't be so conservative, and I come back to that word again, so limited.


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[Assistant] Even that last touchdown where he was open, I mean it appeared wide open to see the back half of the play. He stood in there very well.


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[Assistant] Oh baby! Yes, Pete D. Let's do it! Tell them the kids to be quiet right now. I gotta listen to my quarterback Jeopardy here. Alright, I've got him. You ready to roll? I'm ready. You need a review of the rules?


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[Assistant] I will, uh, I'll hold off. Okay. Okay. Alright. One through five here. 100 should be easiest. Right. We shall see. For 100 points, which quarterback leads the NFL in passing yards?


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[Assistant] Dak Prescott. There you go. One for one. Ready to go. One for one. I am good. Two hundred. Four quarterbacks have played three games without a pick this season. Patrick Mahomes. Aaron Rodgers. Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] And one more has not thrown a pick this year.


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[Assistant] For example, like, Jimmy G hasn't thrown a pick, but he hasn't played all three games. He'd have to have started and played all three games.


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[Assistant] And Raiders are winning more often than their losers. They are. So far. Okay, you're one for two. Damn it! Three hundred. And this is not easy. This one's not easy. Four quarterbacks have thrown a pick six this season. Name three of them.


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[Assistant] Sam Darnold. Let's see, hold on, let me get my pen out, yep. He threw two last week. Yep, there you go. Good play.


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[Assistant] He's picked up 300 points. Alright, you're 2 for 3 for 400.


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[Assistant] What quarterback has led a fourth quarter game winning drive in every game so far?


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[Assistant] Okay, I almost went with Josh Allen there, but that does not make sense.


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[Assistant] Which quarterback has led a fourth quarter game winning drive in every game so far?


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[Assistant] Yeah, good for him. Awesome. People questioning, oh, he didn't deserve that contract.


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[Assistant] Okay, 500. Who leads the NFL in passing yards per attempt and passing yards per completion?


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[Assistant] I think that's too big of a hint, Pete. Pete's like, Pete's giving me a hint. I think that might give it away. Damn. Let me see it. Let me see if you're still struggling in 15 seconds. He said I'm getting a lot of crap on Twitter for it. Oh, he told you too? He did, I heard that. Pete, you've got to run the hints through me and see if I green light them.


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[Assistant] Which, which quarterback's fan base gets on your ass?


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[Assistant] Probably five or six guys, or three or four guys. New Orleans. Okay, so Breeze. Miami. Whoever's playing from Miami. Yeah, it's Patrick.


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[Assistant] Yes? No, I give up. You're not gonna be able to sleep with yourself tonight. Jared Goff.


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[Assistant] Hi, I'm Mike Tirico and thanks for watching. Make sure to hit subscribe for the latest news and highlights from NBC Sports.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Sims on Button Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] Hi I'm Mike Tirico and thanks for watching. Make sure to hit subscribe for the latest news and highlights from NBC Sports.


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[Assistant] That's right, right. You'll wear it next week. That's every other week.


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[Assistant] I mean, during the pandemic, when we were doing all our FaceTime pods and everything like that, we were, it was every time, every time, every time, every time. And just so our man wants to know about the arm pit check. First off, if I saw Ahmed with sweaty pits.


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[Assistant] I would call out the check at the end because I would like to embarrass him. Same for myself. But pandemic kinda slowed down.


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[Assistant] Oh, well poor Kristen. I mean, she only has to do the show in the morning on PFT. She's here at like three in the morning for that. And now she's got to listen to two assholes like us break down every game. And she's probably looking at her watch going, can they fucking hurry up? They're talking about this one game for 20 minutes now. I've heard Chris say this multiple times.


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[Assistant] Well, it did seem that way. I mean, I think that's where you start the breakdown of the game, first off, right there. It's just Camaro, what he did for the Saints, and how special he was. And, I think not only how special he was, because we saw that. And I think first off, what I would just like to say a little with


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[Assistant] You know, Kamara, you know, you've seen really the last two weeks a guy that's almost possessed with the ball in his hands, right? Kinda like trying to show everybody like, I'm worth this contract, I'm the best running back in football. And my point here just on the bigger point is that


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[Assistant] When you get financial security, guys can let it go. They can let it go. He's not worried about anything anymore. He's not worried about protecting himself because his contract's up at the end of the year. So he's going and you can see that right away.


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[Assistant] No doubt. Well, I think that's, and that's where like, first off, I was very underwhelmed by the Packers plan to stop Alvin Kamara. I mean, the biggest story in football last week was Drew Brees can't throw the ball downfield, he's gonna throw it short.


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[Assistant] And, Packers had moments of like, protecting downfield, like they were playing Mahomes and Tyree kill, and you wanna go, what? And you're leaving, you know, Will Red, I wanna say Will 25, Redmond, okay, one on one with Alvin Kamara, who by the way, was severely outmatched in that matchup, and I just wanna, yea, it is Will Redmond.


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[Assistant] Severely outmatched in that matchup and too many times was left in an area where it's just him and Alvin Camaro one on one and I just want to go, wait.


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[Assistant] What are we doing, Mike Petten and Green Bay Defense? Come on, are you watching the same game I'm watching the last few weeks? They throw the ball underneath, over the middle of the field. That's what they do. Pete, I know, we have a spray chart, right? Of the, yeah. Rogers and Breeze?


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[Assistant] Right, so look at these throws here. Now listen, Rodgers has plenty of short throws too, as we see.


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[Assistant] He's got two bombs for a completion where he threw the ball over 50 yards in the air.


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[Assistant] And then has another 5 throws that are over 20 and over 30 yard type throws, let alone another completion at like 21, 22 yards. So that scares the defense, threatens the defense. What on the left, if you're watching anybody on YouTube,


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[Assistant] None over 20. None over 20. The majority of them are really 10 or less and very compact to the middle of the field. So that was my first issue with the game.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well, I mean, even Kamara's big touchdown run, the 52 yard pass, that was, ball was thrown 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage. I mean, it wasn't even a downfield throw.


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[Assistant] It speaks to it. The issue is still there. The big, big picture here. The Saints drew Breeze. He is lacking aggression in the pass game.


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[Assistant] To constantly come up with ways to throw the ball short and then for the players themselves to catch the ball short and hey, make something happen. That all still stands true. And there was a few plays in the game once again that are concerning to me.


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[Assistant] About Drew Brees and the Saints. There are plays where he drops back, and again, I know people think I'm a Drew Brees hater, and I'm not. I'm just trying to give it to you real here, alright?


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[Assistant] Where, and this is a legend, I know that, so I don't feel good about saying some of these things.


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[Assistant] Exactly, I just, I really am. But there was an, there was, I would say four, five, six plays in that range. I even wrote a few down where I went...


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[Assistant] He's not even giving downfield a chance. He has somebody there, but he's not even going to look and he goes right to the short throw. And I want to, you know, and again, I know some of these plays I know, cause they're my West coast plays that I ran with John Gruden. I know the rules and what you're supposed to do according to the coverage and things like that. And I look at it and go, well,


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[Assistant] I mean, this is plain as day. He knows he should be working over here, but he's just dropped back


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[Assistant] I looked over there, I didn't like this, this and this. Trust me, I've heard this from old quarterbacks before when I've been in rooms with them. They always have an excuse of why.


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[Assistant] Something didn't, you know, because they're so smart, I've seen it all. I saw the safety's left toenail pointing this way, and I, you know, and the coach, since he's experienced, will just be like, huh, alright, yeaah, I see what you're saying, alright, yeaah. You know, so, that goes on.


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[Assistant] But yea, there was a few plays throughout the game where I just went, hey, he's not even giving it a chance. It's right to the check down, and it's making life hard on them, certainly.


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[Assistant] The Green Bay Packers defense is also concerning them. Okay. Okay. And I think my big picture with this whole game is the better team on the field is still the New Orleans Saints. They were. The Saints blew this with being undisciplined, penalties, and


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the Breeze Rogers factor. Rogers was the best player on the field. Breeze is somewhat limiting them as a team right now.


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[Assistant] No doubt. Alright, yes. So we'll dive into that. Because again, I think the run game is something that the Saints probably need to start.


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[Assistant] They're up at the line of scrimmage, here he is, he's wide open, throw it to him, things like that. There was a part in the game where I thought, you know, man, what happened, you know, as I'm watching early on, I'm going, why did Sean Payton get away from the run game? Because they were kind of gashing them early on. And there was a point where it was 13-7.


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[Assistant] Just moving it at a clip. Then they get a first down, and Sean Payton, like, loses his patience, and they throw the ball three times, and they have to settle for a field goal. So now it's 13-10. Okay, all good, all good.


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[Assistant] You know, but as the game went on, now I'm watching, I'm going, let me see if they'll stick with the run. Well, Green Bay in the second half changed it up a little bit. They did have some more, Chris Collinsworth brought it up, run blitzes. Blitzes just to say like, we're just gonna try to create havoc in the backfield because we can't physically stand up to you guys straight on, right? And that's a real issue for Green Bay. But I think all in all, I mean, you said it.


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[Assistant] That play with Taysom Hill is the changing point of the football game. There's no doubt about it. And for those who wanna really know


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[Assistant] What happened there, first off, Zedaria Smith made a great play, obviously, right? But it's even greater than you realize. It really is. Because he's running, and I'm not sure if this is a true read option with Taysom Hill, right? Games 27-27, balls at the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's a true read option or if it's a called, like, we're gonna make it look like it's a read option, but you're really gonna keep it. We want you to keep it here, right? And that's what I wanna think it is.


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[Assistant] But regardless, Zedaria Smith played it in a way. I'm sure Taysom Hill.


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[Assistant] Probably hasn't seen anybody play it that way in the last two years. And what I say is,


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[Assistant] His rule most of the time, get the ball, put the ball out for the running back to take and as he's holding it there and about to put it in the running backs gut, he's reading Zedaria Smith to go, okay, if Zedaria Smith crashes down the line of scrimmage to stop the running back on the run play, I'm going to keep it and go around the edge.


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[Assistant] He attacks me, then I give the ball, and we run it right up in there.


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[Assistant] Zedarius kind of gave it in between. He kind of, to Pete's language, Pete demoed it a little lettuce, slow played it. Which is like what team started to do early on in the read option process. Which doesn't always work because sometimes you're playing nobody. Exactly. Sometimes you end up doing nothing. Right. Right. He did a great job and this is why I think it was a called run.


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[Assistant] Because Fortesem Hill and not giving it. But he kind of, he kind of comes up field, doesn't come up really fast, but then kind of just runs right at the quarterback and running back at their mesh point.


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[Assistant] And so I think Taysom Hill's a little bit like, wait, where am I gonna go here? Do I go inside of this guy or up around him as I keep the ball? And then as he's starting to adjust, he slips and Zedarius Smith hits his hand on the ball and that's, that's that. Now, let me just say this.


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[Assistant] If he gives the ball to Latavious Murray, or he gets around the corner on Zedaria Smith, he's probably going to score.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's nobody. I mean, we can watch the play together right now if you wanted to, and we want to waste time on the podcast to do one of those, but...


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[Assistant] Like, it is perfectly blocked. They got them screwed. They're in the perfect defense. It's a gash session. So, there was a player making a big play in a big moment. But, ultimately, I think what I want to get to is...


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[Assistant] At that point right there, you're going, I think the Saints are going to win the game, right? Before that play, you're going, it just looks like they're going to kind of just slowly wear down the Packers here. And yes, the game was basically over after that because the Packers go down and get a field goal, then they get a three out, get the touchdown, and that's all there was to be said. But, you know, all in all, still the same issues with the New Orleans Saints.


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[Assistant] And I don't know what Sean Payton's gonna do to kind of nudge Drew Brees just a little bit to go, hey, you know, be a little bit more aggressive. Now the thing that saves them, there's a few times where I go, oh, I wish he was more aggressive, but they go down and score a touchdown anyways, right?


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[Assistant] That's not sustainable or realistic in the NFL as you continue to go on. You can't pass up open players and think, ah, we'll get somebody open the next play. That'll come back to bite you in the ass. That's when you lose a game to Minnesota in the playoffs, two out of three years, or the Rams when you, those type of plays. Uhm, but last thing, just on the Packers defense.


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[Assistant] The one thing I realized about the Packers defense, first off, is same issues as last year. They have no chance of stopping the run game. They're just not good enough interior defensive line, especially without a Kenny Clark.


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[Assistant] And the way they're formulated, you know, really, they are meant to be.


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[Assistant] Playing with a lead. With those pass rushers, they have a good, they have a lot of good secondary cover guys, and when they can get you into that, ooh, we're up by seven, we're up by ten, we know you're gonna throw the ball, now Mike Petten can do some crazy coverages in the back end, and they can just rush the passer, they're dangerous. But when a team stays close and they can play balanced football on them, man,


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[Assistant] They have issues, they really do, and that really does concern me, uhm, as we go forward with the Packers.


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[Assistant] I don't think, I don't think that scenario is happening. Injury is the only way you'll see it. Injury is the only way it's happening. Really? Yea, I mean I can't imagine Drew Brees playing bad enough to where it's like, oh now Sean Payton literally has to make a decision. Like I don't think that's going to happen.


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[Assistant] The Saints can be a player in this thing. Alright, the Saints, yea, lack explosive plays on offense as we've talked about. They still are able to execute and go on drives and do things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, the other thing is their defense, which I know we're going to talk about here in a second, but...


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[Assistant] I might as well just get into it a little here. Let's flip it. Let's go to their defense. So my first big thing with the Saints, just after watching the whole game, I came away just reading, I think the Saints gotta change their approach and how they play football. You know, first off, the defense is too aggressive. They're letting up too many big plays. We've seen it all three weeks. They're letting up big plays.


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[Assistant] I honestly think they're doing too much on defense. They have mistakes every week. We'll get into some specific mistakes that we saw last night that led to big plays for the Packers. But this is my biggest reason. I really think the Saints should go back to the drawing board and play like the Patriots did three years ago. Like, okay, we're...


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[Assistant] Bend, but don't break defense. We're gonna just keep bending and bending and you'll kick a field goal and we'll execute and execute and we'll go down and score a touchdown. And it's like the old Patriots games where you're sitting there and you go, the Patriots don't seem like they're dominating this game, but it's 14 to six and now it's 21 to nine and then it's 28 to 12. And you're like, they didn't really dominate, but they're about to blow this team out.


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[Assistant] No, and I think the Saints have that ability to play that way. And I think the defense is really the part that's hurting them in this category right now too. They're just a little too over aggressive and trying to kill people all the time. Like I said, I came away from this game going the Saints were the better football team. They're the better team.


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[Assistant] When you make mistakes, turn the ball over, uhm,


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[Assistant] Turn the ball over, have 70 plus more yards and penalties, and then have mental mistakes on the defensive side of the ball that let Aaron Rodgers throw huge big-time plays with no Devontae Adams, you're gonna lose the game. I don't give a shit where you are, in New Orleans, in Mars, wherever that is, and that's where it starts there. So... Yeah, go ahead, ask me some questions.


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[Assistant] You know, again, the fourth and one at the end of the game. The Packers. I mean, didn't we draft a second round 250 pound tailback? But we gave it to the 185 pound tailback? I don't know! So what was the point of the last draft? I'm still trying to figure that out. Okay.


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[Assistant] But you're right. More of this stuff goes on to Rogers. So, I mean, here's the thing that I took away from the game. First of all, the line of scrimmage was dominated by the Saints.


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[Assistant] I know it's gonna look at like Aaron Jones, you're gonna go 16 runs, 69 yards, that's not a bad day. You know, one of them was late in the game, 19 yard run, like in the fourth quarter of that last touchdown drive, where that was really well blocked and that was a good play. That was the only well blocked run the whole night.


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[Assistant] He had another run, I know, for 12 yards earlier in the game. There was nobody blocked. He just ran up in there and they, he got lucky to bounce out and beat people with speed down the left sideline for a 12 yard game. So they were totally dominated up front from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] Even in the pass rush, it wasn't going to be easy that way. But the big thing is, because Roger's one right now is staying on the number one target like we talked about, he has confidence in Lefleur's system, and because they're calling aggressive plays,


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[Assistant] And they continue to be aggressive, they just finally caught the Saints in a few plays where, oh, we got you in the right coverage, or,


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[Assistant] With the Packers. Listen, we have the Saints who play a style of football that is all predicated on Sean Payton getting people open so Drew Brees can execute the offense.


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[Assistant] In Green Bay, the offense is what it is because of Aaron Rodgers and his skill set. And then they fit it all around him. And that's where they put the pressure on you. And really, I think that's the thing that bothers me. So, when you talk about, uhm,


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[Assistant] The beautiful bootleg pass, right? Left, he drops it to Lazard, right? Lazard falls down and gets kinda like the 3 or 4 yard line, right? Marshawn Latimore, they're playing quarters coverage, alright? He's peeking in the backfield, first off, and...


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[Assistant] Well, I just think, I just seen these from every week so far this week, so far with the Saints where I go, like this is a basic defense and they just messed up an easy rule.


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[Assistant] The deep, other deep post to Alan Lazard, right? The long one where he gets caught at like the three or four yard line going in, they have to score on the fourth and one to score the touchdown, right?


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[Assistant] They're playing quarters coverage again. This time, it's...


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[Assistant] So now, it's quarter's coverage. This is basically the play, just in case you want to see it here. Okay, but this is it. So it's a curl on the front side.


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[Assistant] He doesn't, he's too late to realize it. So there's PJ Williams, everybody's going, what an asshole he is. He can't cover Alan Lazard. He's not expecting, he's expecting help over there. So then there's that.


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[Assistant] Then back to Lamar Schellman, I'm going to all the big pass plays. Last touchdown drive.


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[Assistant] Uh, Rodgers throws a whole shot to Tanyan down the left side. Same thing. Now it's another defense, it's a blitz zone, and Lattimore doesn't know exactly what his rule is. And I've just seen that too much throughout. And that's where I go back to saying, play a little more basic. Give a really good front forward that can stop the run almost by itself.


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[Assistant] And if you bend, my money would still be, as much as I'm concerned about Drew B, is that they're still gonna be able to move the ball on offense and he's still gonna be able to put up numbers and they'll get points.


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[Assistant] Alright, and I just look at it this way from a guy who's like me who's watched football all my life. And I just go...


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[Assistant] Alright, it's cool you're doing all these defenses, it's aggressive, I like that, but it's not cool when you're giving up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the right pieces, veteran guys who are very smart, and if you kept it a little simpler for them, I think they're the type of group that could be like,


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[Assistant] Okay, wait, I don't have to think about my defense. I know what this offense is trying to do here. Malcolm Jenkins, I'm smart. DiMario Davis, I'm smart. Latimore and Janouris Jenkins, I've seen a lot of route combinations in my time. You know, make me not think so much, maybe I can think about what they're doing more and stop them that way. That's just my two cents on that.


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[Assistant] It was pass interference. Right. It was defensive holding first. I mean, we can watch the film. When Mercedes Lewis comes up the field and decides, okay, I'm not out, I'm not open on the out route, right? He wheels up. He gets held. He's got two hands, he's riding him like he's a horsey.


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[Assistant] And then as Mercedes Lewis turns around, Marshawn, I mean Jenkins is holding his right arm. Now the ball is going to be delivered and you have an arm being held. Yes, he pushed off and said, yea, get off me. Well you know what I would say to that?


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[Assistant] But, but this is, I've seen this, but I see this a lot in conversations with these PI things lately where it's...


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[Assistant] Wait, that was past interference, and I go, yeah, I get it, but there was past interference before that, and you're just looking at the final cut. So, I don't know, if they're gonna let that one go, then let that one go and just let them play ball. That's why I don't have as big an issue with it maybe as I would some other ones. Sure, sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I'm trying to think of the other one I'm missing. Well, no, the 49 yarder, yeah, was the one.


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[Assistant] Early in the game where Jaira Alexander had to run across the field to get him. But yes, he's unbelievable. And that's who


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[Assistant] You know, again, Sean Payton, great run game design, that's where I kinda started to go, like, maybe they need to open up the, you know, the safe on all the run plays. Even Taysom Hill, just start using him more, and maybe that'll take pressure off of Drew Brees in the pass game a little bit, but like you said, the game was there to be had, they made mistakes,


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[Assistant] Two good football teams, when you lose the turnover battle, you blow assignments, and then you lose the penalty battle as well, and some big penalties like you mentioned, it's hard to win a football game. And the last thing I'll say is,


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[Assistant] The, the, the bootleg game for the Packers offense. I mean, that really won the football game for them. And that would go into another area of why I'd go.


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[Assistant] Like saints, calm it down. How many times are you going to let him come out the backside and hit a tight end running, you know, for 10 or 15 yards, right? And that to me played into like, see, it's just too much. No, it's, it's a basic play that they ran the same freaking play like five times and the saints never covered it.


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[Assistant] But I think that goes back into like, we're trying to think about what we're supposed to do here, and we forgot, we've seen this formation four times already, and the same play, and we still didn't recognize it because we're thinking about our own play.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think so. We'll see. We'll see. You're right. It's the opposite of Seattle or Kansas City we've talked about in the past and those type of things. But I think this would fit their team best. Two good teams.


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[Assistant] Why? You're not allowed to dance to that song anymore until you see the 8 Mile. Okay?


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[Assistant] 50 touchdowns and 5,000 yards on the same play with no feet on the ground and a bomb against the Raiders I believe it was that year.


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[Assistant] You might have to go back and check it out. I'm gonna check it out now that you said it. But I do, I mean yea, how can, I'm concerned about their defense. Of course I am a little bit. I mean it's a lot of big plays we've seen in three weeks. This deserves like more than a damn okay. What's the next level up? Is this a sponsored segment? No. Cause this should be like holy shit okay. Like, I don't even know what you say anymore. The guy is insane. And I have no...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it did. I mean, the Cowboys defense is certainly nothing to write home about either. You're right about that. And yes, some of those guys are wide open and everything, but when you're calling every freaking route downfield and he's constantly hitting it and everything, like some guys, they're going to be open because you're a DB and you're like, Oh no, my defensive coordinator called this play.


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[Assistant] Wait, I'm 20 yards downfield and he can go to the, he can go to the post or the corner and then I'm, he's a freak, I don't know what I'm gonna do. You can't stop that sometimes.


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[Assistant] It's as good as a big game stretch as I've ever seen, especially with...


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[Assistant] Big time power throws. Yeaah. Like I feel like even if we went back to Peyton Manning and the Holmes.


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[Assistant] That, you know, Manning at that point was surgical, right? It was right audible, and I'm gonna get in the right play, and you just won't stop me. Mahomes was like,


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[Assistant] A little of like, yea, street ball, great deep balls, but also some like Andy Reid magic too, where like, oh, there's Tyree Kill for a four yard throw and he zooms up the sideliner. It was like some of those speed sweeps where like, here you go, you take it.


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[Assistant] Some of that, like, this is like, every touchdown pass is like, holy shit what a throw. Or, man, like, no easy, no gimme throws, right? So I think that's where I think it's a little different than the other guys.


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[Assistant] I guess the big thing here with them in general, first off, is yeaah, the defense is concerning, but I still think you're looking at a team that you just go, they're winning.


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[Assistant] And I think it's because of the aggressive way in which they're playing. And I think it suits their team really well.


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[Assistant] You know, again, okay, the defense, the defense let up a lot of big plays. Defense caused a few plays to the...


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[Assistant] So that's what I like about them. They put the pressure on you. They cause two turnovers. Or is it three turnovers? How many was it? Three turnovers. So you got, you know, really two. One interception.


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[Assistant] The sack strip fumble at the start of the second half, and I know the interception at the end of the game that put it away, but that was a desperation type throw. But regardless, yeaah, I have no issues with playing that style, especially when you know you're going to continue to attack on the offensive side of the ball, and I just feel like,


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[Assistant] These are games a few years ago, maybe even last year or the year before, just like the Packers playoff game last year.


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[Assistant] Where you would've saw Seattle lose these games. Cause they would've, oh, we're gonna.


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[Assistant] Incredible. Even more than we thought. Well that's where the big discussion is with Dallas that I hear right now, you know, and I know like Rodney Harrison brought this up, like why not, I didn't Dallas run the ball more. You know, don't let Russell Wilson and this offense go, but Dallas views themselves the same way. They're going weak.


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[Assistant] Four big time receivers. That's the strength of our team.


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[Assistant] We don't want them run blocking. And the big thing is with Dallas is we gotta continue to moderate. The offensive line in Dallas is not special anymore. They're not. It's just a good old line.


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[Assistant] This, they're missing both starting tackles. And then the other thing too, to where we're, this is where Seattle's interesting. Seattle calls your bluff on the run game. They just go, hey, you want to run it? Fine, we got nine guys down here. We don't even care. Go ahead. Go run it.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're literally like begging you like, look, pass it, pass the ball. Look, there's nobody back here. Throw it. And that's a tough bind for the Dallas Cowboys. So I've heard people question that approach and I just don't.


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[Assistant] I don't think Dallas can play that style of football right now. Dallas' defense is not special. So that's the other thing you gotta take into account too. I think you're gonna see them win a number of shootouts through the year.


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[Assistant] You know, the pass rush, all they got is Alden Smith. D-Tackles, they're a little light there. They're banged up with linebacker. You know, secondary, nobody's special there. Shadobie Wouze is a good football player. There's no doubt about that. Diggs is learning on the fly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just don't think this is the type of team that's going to be able to play like ground and pound. We'll take a shot every now and then and win with like a complete football team, football win. I don't think the Cavaliers are that type of team right now. The fastest ball carrier of the week. Right.


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[Assistant] Alp's gonna be one of those guys where I need to look at his contract or where he's at there. Where I feel like somebody's gonna sign him after the year.


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[Assistant] And we're going to go, oh, that was a good sign. And all of a sudden he's going to blow up like next year on some other team where he's more of the focal point of the offense. Like you said, they're, they're unreal. I mean, the fact that Cedric Wilson pops up out of nowhere, I mean, he just chose you.


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[Assistant] The fact that Cedric Wilson is that good is making me, like, second guess, like, maybe you shouldn't have drafted C.D. Lam. Maybe we should have gotten a defense alignment.


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[Assistant] I think he might have intercepted it, but there's not enough evidence to overturn it.


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[Assistant] If they had called an interception on the field, I would have gone, yeah, that's no problem with that. They can't overturn that and call a touchdown pass. So I was shocked by that aspect of it.


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[Assistant] Well, you saw enough, right, of the game. I mean, they're a different team with him in there. It's just, they look better, he looks better, he's more consistent of a thrower, he's got a better pocket presence standing around with people and chaos around him and things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, and I'm a guy that was always trying to look at the glass half full of Mitchell Trubisky. You know, we saw a little growth in week one and even last week wasn't bad, made a few plays and things like that. But like, listen, I think you're right a little by what you said. You know, I took the thing of


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[Assistant] When they named Trubisky the starter, I was surprised. And just my experience in football world, I felt like, told me, ooh, if they did that with this situation, he must have clearly won it.


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[Assistant] Those things when I read between the tea leaves, okay, I think you're probably right with what you said.


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[Assistant] It was probably really, really close. And they went, we'll give it to Trubisky, let Foles still get used to being here, a part of the team. But in the back of our mind, we really like Foles and we like where he's going. He might not have been right where they want him to, right? For week one, right? Within the offense and being comfortable. So they said, let's go with Trubisky.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was shocked they pulled the court on Trubisky yesterday. I didn't think it was gonna happen yesterday. Especially two weeks after he just brought you back. But, much better offense and falls, uhm, just, yeaah, just, just an easier, more consistent,


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[Assistant] Well, he's on his last gasp of air here. This is, if they don't go on some run here soon.


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[Assistant] They're in deep trouble, but I think we're continuing to see the same issues with the Falcons. There's no toughness to their football team. When they get a lead, they can't sustain drives. They can't run the ball to take time off the clock.


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[Assistant] You know, their defense gets a little bit in like, ooh, we're winning prevent mode, and they're just not a talented defense. You know, they were very fortunate to be up in this game anyways.


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[Assistant] You know, there was some bad calls in this game. There was a strip sack fumble on, on Matt Ryan. I'm just telling you, they got run over so bad. The referee was like, something had to be illegal there and he threw it. He was just like, that was too, that was too tough of a tackle. I mean, it really, that's what happened a few times during the game. But, uh, I do think this Bears team is interesting.


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[Assistant] But nonetheless, the Falcons between not enough talent on defense,


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[Assistant] We've talked about for two years, not enough depth on their roster. You know, you see, oh, Julio Jones is out. All of a sudden the offense ain't that scary. It's just Calvin Ridley and Matt Ryan. That's all that scares you. Let alone the system's not special either. They have a basic NFL offensive system.


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[Assistant] That fools us all to think it's a little bit better because they have a quarterback who really knows how to play the game and they have some weapons that put up numbers every week, but the system itself is not scary when you don't have a run game and then you have a defense that's predictable without a pass rush and cover guys. Yeah. He's in trouble.


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[Assistant] Thanks, man. Well, I'm very confident in my buddy Kyle Shanahan, first off. I mean, Kyle to me is, he's next level football coach, as anybody that's listened would probably be able to tell, but, you know, this is where


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[Assistant] It just, he's such a special coach, it's almost, to me it's like Belichick, where he's just like, oh wait, half the teams hurt, uh, they'll find a way to be competitive and maybe win this game still. I mean, because he just gives you so many great schematical advantages, let alone,


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[Assistant] They were playing a team that they were, you know, more talented than to begin with, offensively challenged to begin with. And I know there's no Nick Bosa and Richard Sherman, but this still got a lot of good defensive players on this 49ers football team.


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[Assistant] It does. They built something really well there with Lynch and Shanahan, certainly. With Mullins, you know, Mullins is one of the better backups in all of football. He really is. I mean, decent little athlete.


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[Assistant] You know, got a good arm. It's not great, but it's good. It's probably every bit as good as Jimmy Garoppolo's. Got a pretty quick release. Now you can't maybe throw the ball from different platforms and have the anticipation, uh, Garoppolo has and things like that. But yes, I was impressed. And you know, early on, it wasn't easy. It wasn't. I mean, they struggled a little.


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[Assistant] You know, get a touchdown, get the turnover on the interception. Fred Mourner gets that on a bad throw from Daniel Jones to Evan Ingram. And that kind of opened up the floodgates. And then you start to see the Shanahan Genius to where, okay, wait, I got a little cushion.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the eagles are definitely going to be tougher. The eagles do have a pass rush, certainly. I would, if he is not close to 100, like if he's 90 or


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna say so for right now. I am. Yes. Yes. But if it's like, oh man, he's still really struggling moving around and it's really only 75-80% kind of thing. Yeah, let him sit out again. And I still think they could win this game without Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] He can, because you just don't know where he's going to take place in. You know, oh, they're going to run the ball with them today, they're going to throw a few passes to them and screw you over that way. I mean, you talk about running back by committee, that was next level running back by committee yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was all over the place yesterday. But they're just showing, again, the growth of that offense and what do you defend. I think you're just continuing to add on to this to thinking of, man, what players do we stop? I don't even know who the guys are. We stop right now. If you're playing the Patriots, they run block well.


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[Assistant] And then of course we know the Cam Newton effect and everything there. But, you know, Newton didn't play his best football.


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[Assistant] The Patriots do what the Patriots always do. They evaluate the other team and they go, they're f**ked up in this area. They're not as good. And we talked about last week, the Raiders front seven. It's just, there's nothing to write home about. There's nothing.


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[Assistant] There's not one thing for me to sit there and go, oh, yeah, oh, but the Raiders have this. No. And they attack that. And just kept attacking that.