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[Assistant] Yes, it's, uh, I'm sure Dak Prescott's gonna find it refreshing. He's gonna have a guy he can talk to on a very equal level that's gonna be able to give him some wisdom.


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[Assistant] It is. You like it to be a peer and that's why people want Sean McVeigh and the Matt Lafleurs and the Kyle Shananns because yeaah, they can coach and tell you what to do, but you also can have conversations about, you know, coach, I don't like this. Tell me your thinking or sell this play to me or whatever it is. And that's becomes the peer relationship. Did you have a coach like that?


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[Assistant] I think the one that I was closest to like, like Josh McDaniels my year in Denver. That surprises me. I know, you wouldn't think it. Josh will listen to you. If he thinks you're wrong, be ready for the answer and he's gonna prove you wrong, like right on the spot.


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[Assistant] But he, he welcomed questions and some dialogue to where, like Gruden, it was just this way and that way and this is what I like to do and to learn it and hurry up and spit it out. Let's get out of the huddle and I got 10 checks for you and we'll figure out the right play.


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[Assistant] With Josh McDaniels, no, you could talk and go, ooh, I don't love this play against this coverage. I don't like this play against this coverage. Ooh, I love this play a lot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, throughout the week in quarterback meetings and then especially in a Friday, Saturday when you're starting to kind of narrow the game plan a little bit and what do I like on third down? What do I like in the red zone?


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[Assistant] You know, it goes back to what I tell people a lot. Belichick is a little bit more of a player's coach than people give him credit for. Uh, and I think Josh McDaniel is the same way.


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[Assistant] They're not like evil dictators like, this way or you shall die and be off this team. No, really good coaches know what they have and know how to go, okay, this is realistic for me to ask the player to do this because he's good at this. Not just do things and go, no, this is the way I do it. Even though you're not good at it, you got to do it anyways.


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[Assistant] Kyle Ordon, exactly right, yeaah. It was, it was us two, uh, and then we had a rookie, uh, Kyle Branstader at the time, a quarterback from friend, Tim Branstader, excuse me, from Fresno, exactly right. Yeaah, it was us three. But it was a great year. I learned a lot of football that year from Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] Brady sends it back, okay, I like this, I didn't like that. So yes, that's going on in New England right now and that's part of their greatness.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know where to get at me. Hey, it's youtube.com slash NBC Sports. If you wanna watch Paul and, and me in, in person, uh, appreciate you always, man. You the man. And again.


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[Assistant] For everybody. Big Phil will be on on the Thursday podcast and will be a regular Tuesday.


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[Assistant] Uh, visitor from here on out. Threatening to be here in person. And he says he's gonna be here in person. I gotta see it to believe it. But yes, podcast schedule from here on out. Tuesday, Thursday tapings should be out by Tuesday, Thursday night, uh, for, for the public to digest.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think we're going to do some stuff like that. Definitely. I think we got a lot of that kind of stuff planned out in the future for all kinds of people. So good. We're excited about it. All right, everybody be good. Peace out. We'll talk to you. I didn't even get to my environment, uh, rant.


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[Assistant] Can you do it with this? I'm feeling fast already. Okay. Alright, here we go. Speed round!


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[Assistant] Look, we can put the explicit tag on it like we have the past two times you've been on it. Okay, that's what you've done? Yes. I get the E. It's the Chris Sims, you know. Do you ever go there? That's good. You ever let one fly?


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[Assistant] By the way, Chris, I always love joining you guys, right? It's the guy who played quarterback in college, the guy who played quarterback in the NFL, and the guy who played quarterback at 8th grade recess. 8th grade recess is the most fun though.


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[Assistant] In round 10, 11, 12. So that's how you could kind of set up your roster that way. We kind of want to try to find...


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[Assistant] The Patrick Brahms of this year. But again, look at this top 10 list. Yeaah, right. It's amazing names. You have Deshaun Watts who was the quarterback for last year. You have Cam Newton who was fantastic before that shoulder injury. You have Baker Mayfield now with added weapons.


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[Assistant] Chris, the name I want to ask you about is there at number 10, with Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals. Because there's a lot to love.


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[Assistant] But a lot of it is just talk right now, right? Because it's a four wide offense, an air raid system, maybe things we have not seen before. But at the same time, it's Kyler Murray who averaged 71 rushing yards per game last year at Oklahoma. So that floor gives him a safe


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[Assistant] You know, amount of points each week for facing football. But my question to you is, do you have any sense of what this offense might look like? And I know it's built and catered to Kyler, but again, we have no idea what it is.


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[Assistant] If we can keep it on the Skyler conversation because we've seen a lot of kind of new waves of offense come along in the past decade in some ways. Like you had your moment with the Wildcat.


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[Assistant] Read options, zone read situations. I wouldn't be surprised, and I'm not saying that this offense is anywhere close to that, but a lot of teams need


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[Assistant] This position is. And it's because when you look at the scoring from last year, let's take 2018 for example. Patchmore Homes put up 399 points. The next quarterback, Big Ben, 327 points.


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[Assistant] Matt Ryan, 325, Aaron Rogers, 311, Sean Watson, 309. So, taking a quarterback


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[Assistant] And round two or round three means you can't take a running back or a wide receiver, which you have to play two or three of.


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[Assistant] Each and every week. Instead, you're taking one of those in round 10 or 11. Meanwhile, the drop off in that is about 150 points at running back of wide receiver versus quarterback. It's about 50-70 depending on if you land that number one quarterback. How is Ben Roethlisberger not in the top 10?


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[Assistant] The position. In that, we know with Lamar Jackson, and it was funny, this week actually, John Harbaugh talked about, and a reporter asked him, what do you think he's gonna break Cam Newton's single season record of a hundred and what, 49 characters, a hundred and three? And I looked at that and he's like, oh yea, way past. And I was like, oh that's big. Then I looked at his numbers last year. He already did that in seven games last season.


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[Assistant] So to me, when you have that rushing upside, again, you get one point for every 10 yards rushing versus one point for every 25 yards passing. If he's just elevated a little bit as a passer,


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[Assistant] Again, and with an offense that has catered to him throughout an entire offseason, to me that's really exciting and he's going right now as the quarterback 15 or 16, which is much, much later on.


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[Assistant] And now you don't have Rob Gronkowski. Right. And that's the issue. And it's kind of the same thing as Drew Brees, the name that you brought up. Yeaah. These are people that a couple years ago had five thousand attempts. There's still the number one and number two.


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[Assistant] What has changed for them other than a couple offensive line pieces that hopefully they can overcome? He's as quarterback 13 right now. We mentioned Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Even Josh Adlin last year had like a three game stretch where he was the number one quarterback in baseball. Just because of his rushing football.


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[Assistant] Watching this, you can pick this up. Lamar Jackson, a lot of his runs, or all of them, were designed runs. Josh Allen was scrambles, and that's not as sticky, year to year, as called design runs. And also, Josh Allen, if I could make you guess, he averaged 11 yards per scramble last year.


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[Assistant] I do think that at least we get a full offseason of offensive changes from Brian Dayball. Something catered to him rather than, you know, halfway through the season of, okay, he can pick up something outside of structure and then throw deep shots to Robert Foster this year. That's to John Brown. But I don't think that his same rushing totals can be sick. We might have seen the biggest rushing totals of Josh Allen's career as well.


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[Assistant] But the biggest thing and the biggest question, maybe the only question we have with Baker and the Browns is if the offensive line can hold up.


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[Assistant] To me, left tackle, right tackle, and then replacing Kevin Zeitler at guard, could all be questions that by week six, they could be answered. By week six, they could be a major second point in holding the offense back.


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[Assistant] There's so much potential just for his raw rushing totals to go up. Touchdown totals I should say. Because as a rookie, he rushed for 15.


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[Assistant] Touchdowns. In the second year in just 10 games it was 7 touchdowns. Last year in 15 games just 6 touchdowns. We know last year he had a major expanded role in the passing game. 77 receptions. And so that is new. That's not gonna go away. He is keeping that. And so if he just scores


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[Assistant] Three, four, five more rushing touchdowns as well. That vaults him to the number one spot.


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[Assistant] Nine straight runs to pick up two, three yards or negative yards, but then he can break that 63 yarder to the house for touchdown. And so no matter what, he can succeed on bad teams.


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[Assistant] Block seven yards for you each and every week. Right. Each and every run. Right. I'm not going to say that's seven yards, but three yards for Zico Elliott just easily makes that up. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Seven, six running backs selected in the first round and the next three would be gone at the top of the second round. You're gonna mix in a wide receiver, maybe even a tight end, we can get to that in a little bit. But these players go super early. You know, you kinda have to look down the list if you want someone with 200 and 250 touches that you don't have to take inside the top two rounds. Where's Derrick Henry gonna go?


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[Assistant] Derrick Henry is someone that I don't think belongs in this top group at all.


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[Assistant] We have him as running back 22, and he is someone that we totally agree with you. Like, he's an awesome talent, came out of nowhere last year at a great preseason, but we didn't think he was going to be anything as a rookie because they drafted Royce Freeman in the second or third round last year. Royce Freeman's still there, and really what we try to do is read the tea leaves of what's going on during preseason.


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[Assistant] He was top five in rushing yards last season, top five in yards after contact. The team might lead the NFL in carries once again.


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[Assistant] Now we have no idea how much they're going to s- You don't know. Yeah. Totally. I do want to bring this up because this is a John Gruden connection. Okay. And it's Josh Jacobs.


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[Assistant] Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. And to me when we look back at the 10 years with John Gruden on the Bucks, a long time ago.


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[Assistant] That's why he was drafted. Even though he didn't have a lot of passing production in college, you watched the Auburn game and he's fantastic.


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[Assistant] He's the man. It kind of might surprise you that ahead of people like Julia Jones, Odell Beckham, who we have at five, we have Devonte Adams at number two. And it's because last year he was, depending on the format, the wide receiver one or wide receiver two.


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[Assistant] And then you add in a healthy Aaron Rodgers, hopefully a play calling system that he more gels with. It just makes total sense there with Devontae Adams.


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[Assistant] Paul, the two I'm definitely afraid of, well, I'll say one, but the two that changed teams in that top five are Odell Beckham, I should say top ten, and then Antonio Brown at number eight. Odell's a positive.


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[Assistant] In situations where things go outside of structure, he wants to check it down to Jared Cook and Jalen Rashard. Also afraid of John Gruden not understanding it's the year 2019. I'm also afraid that Antonio Brown made so much of his big plays in his production on broken plays. That's where Big Ben shines. I'm not sure that's where Derek Carr shines.


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[Assistant] Paul, to your point though, Antonio Brown has been the wide receiver one of the last three seasons. So getting him possibly here as wide receiver eight, if he's going to get fed, that's a major value.


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[Assistant] It's just going to drastically decrease everyone else on that team. Like Jarvis Landry, you know, was used vertically for some reason last year because they really had no vertical threat for a while. Jarvis Landry is going to go in the tank compared to his previous season.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, a lot of people are excited about David and Joku or whoever else on that roster. Really, the three that I want, and I think stacking and season long links, going with the same team approach other than kind of diversifying your portfolio, sorry to use all these nerd words, uh, is Baker Mayfield, Odo Beckham, and Nick Chubb. And then you go and win your championship. Yeah, I know, cause Nick Chubb's a stud.


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[Assistant] I think we have it right. But you really can't go wrong with Michael Thomas as well. Like these are all really, really good players. Six is interesting with Juju Smith Schuster.


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[Assistant] Uneasiness, the uncertainty at the wide receiver position that they have with James Washington and Dante Moncrief and Deontay Johnson.


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[Assistant] If Juju doesn't get like 200 targets this season, leave the league in targets just because they know what they're having. You know they're gonna throw it a lot, they gotta be throwing it to somebody.


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[Assistant] And I think it's best to kind of put this in perspective a little bit. I think it's absolutely possible Travis Kelce should be your first round pick at tight end if you're picking around.


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[Assistant] Pick 10, pick 11, pick 12 in the first round. And it's because not necessarily you're getting tied in one week each and every week, but you're getting a top 5, top 6 score.


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[Assistant] And again at the top, we talked about how the difference in quarterback is about 50 points from quarterback one to quarterback six. It's about 150 points. About half the number of points for the season compared to tight end one.


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[Assistant] I appreciate George Kittle just a little bit more because Zach Hertz last year just had a career year. I mean, 44 more targets than he ever had in the past, 38 more receptions than he ever had in the past and just


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[Assistant] The additions of Deshaun Jackson and the running game and more health along that team, I don't think he's going to be force fed as much as he was last year.


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[Assistant] And he told you in your interview with him that they are expanding the playbook a lot more this year with tight end because of Jared Cook compared to the previous years.


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[Assistant] So let me talk about the Cliffs here a little bit, because after Ertz and Kettle, that's around pick 25. Then there's kind of...


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[Assistant] Eric Ebron to Jared Cook to David Njoku to Vance McDonald. I am totally with you on Vance McDonald.


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[Assistant] More than 50% of the Steelers' snaps last year. I think only a handful of games Van St. Donald played over 50% of the snaps last year for the Steelers. We'll probably see that closer to 75.


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[Assistant] I don't want any exposure to anyone on the Lions. Like, I really like Karrion Johnson. He's going a little bit earlier than I would take him.


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[Assistant] I like Kenny Galladay as a player. He was doing a little bit earlier. And it's because they are trying to have a Patriots style offense, a Patriots style team, without having Tom Brady at the forefront. Instead they're trying to make someone who sprays footballs around the field and wants to test vertically in Matthew Stafford.


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[Assistant] And really prior to the 2018 season, this is a team that could have gone into the year with Eric Ebron, Golden Tate, Marvin Jones, and Kenny Galladay. Instead, by midway this year, they might just have Kenny Galladay on the roster.


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[Assistant] Running back, I mean 6 through 10. We can, well 6 through 9.


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[Assistant] Levion Bell is playing with Adam Gase. Adam Gase who set an NFL record basically for a low number of plays in a season last year.


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[Assistant] Joe Mixon, again, someone that might be in the field 70-80% of the time, but this is Zach Taylor who, you know, simplified, wants to implement someone of the Rams did, and the personnel can kind of be good, but the biggest change for the Rams when they really exploded was their offensive line. The Bengals have a crap offensive line.


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[Assistant] Again, player who was held out of OTAs, last year was the running back one and was fantastic, but then they matched the offer sheet for Malcolm Brown, then they spin and trade up.


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[Assistant] Now you might see 60-65% of the snaps for Todd Gurley and then have those 35% split between Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson.


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[Assistant] My favorite thing about the AMA, the Ask Me Everything, or anything, is that our preparation time goes down, significantly. Because, you know, our listeners, who are great out there, prepare.


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[Assistant] Entering into a multi-year partnership with the NFL to enhance the NFL's live game experiences and to amplify the league's social justice efforts. So I think that


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[Assistant] include Colin Kaepernick, because he was at the, at the forefoot. Sure, I think a lot of people thought like, ooh, yes. Or using the NFL. It wasn't, you know, it was never an anti-NFL.


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[Assistant] You know, stance I don't think from Colin until he couldn't get a job anymore, but it was just using that platform to promote what he felt was social justice issues in the nation. Exactly right. Not necessarily in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Colin Kaepernick apparently not involved, as Eric Reid tweeted out, he's not involved in this venture.


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[Assistant] And real quick before we move on, and we've talked about this before, and I feel very strongly that we're all so similar. Every human being is very similar and given.


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[Assistant] Uh, the environment that someone else grew up in, if I grew up in that same environment, I would turn out very similar to that other person. You know, it's all, it's environment, it's how you grew up, and it's where you're from, and the rest is just, you know, luck of the draw.


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[Assistant] So Mike likes dirt. Wow. Pretty good one. He goes, uh, is it just me or do all three quarterbacks on the Raiders seem like pushovers on hard knocks? No swagger whatsoever.


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[Assistant] Then he goes on to say what percentage of quarterbacks actually have that killer instinct that we see from Brady, Rogers, Mahomes. They got that leadership quality. But yea, what do you make of that, Phil? Seems like all three quarterbacks, according to Mike Likes Dirt, are kind of pushovers in this Hard Knocks.


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[Assistant] Right. So I'm curious, you know, the number one pick in the NFL draft, Kyler Murray, and you know, you expect that from the quarterback position, but it doesn't, I mean, I don't know Kyler Murray, but it doesn't seem to be in his personality. Any of the new age guys.


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[Assistant] I love that. I love that. Can we throw another one at your dad? Let's go. We got another Ask Me Anything. This one's about the wide receiver position. It comes from Bitta Pupil. And they say, what are the top five wide receiver cores in the NFL?


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[Assistant] You can either have the best wide receiver ever, you say Jerry Rice, but the other four receivers you have are below average, or you can have five that are all above average receivers. So you can either have the greatest of all time, but then everyone else is kind of below average, or everyone who's just a little bit.


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[Assistant] Alright, you guys have a great day, great talking to you. See you man, be good. Uh, I, I thought that that might be a game that you would pick for your rest. Do you want to give your...


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[Assistant] Not my favorite. No? My favorite. Yes. Uh, week three. Right. On NBC. Because I am obligated to pick NBC. You guys aren't, but I am. Uh, but no, this really is my number one. Football Night in America. Yeah. Rams at Brown.


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[Assistant] Can they handle this? Three of the biggest stars in football with Odell, Baker Mayfield, and Sean McVay.


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[Assistant] There were some Colts games in there too that I looked at, but then I kind of wondered, are we even going to see, uh, Jacobi Berset? Jacobi Berset in there instead of Andrew Luck. That is a question that came from Unwanted Opinions with Nick and Jay. Uh, he asked, or she, how many games do the Colts win without Luck? And so now, we're in that weird, nebulous Andrew Luck


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[Assistant] Uh, team still didn't know what was going on. Now they believe they know the source of the pain. Right. No surgery necessary, but it seems like he will not play the entire preseason. Yeah. So it's a, it's a question mark.


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[Assistant] Uh, number four, Chad Johnson, Ocho Cinco. I think he enjoyed that role. Yep. Embraced it more towards the end of his career. Number three I have is Michael Irvin. Oooooh.


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[Assistant] I thought that was like Bobby Knight, where it's more enjoyable to watch from afar. It was like Bobby, I enjoyed watching Bobby Knight's antics, but I think if I was around him, that would not have been as fun. So probably the same with Keyshawn Johnson.


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[Assistant] He, and, and for a player, what, what is he, second all-time in Yards for State? Yes. To wait that long to get into Hall of Fame? It was insane. It's just, you know there's something else going on there. I mean, we all saw it.


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[Assistant] People now are saying, okay, you can stop it. You can stop. You got your money. You can stop. Yes, right. Maybe it's the train has left the station and maybe it's hard to reel back in. Yes, sir. Okay, that's a good top top five list. There's another little piece of news out there too.


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[Assistant] Uhm, let me see. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. About Trent Williams. Oh. With Washington. Washington, okay. Let's get that one out. How much draft capital would you give up to trade for Trent Williams? Specifically for teams like the Browns and Texans who could really use him. So Trent Williams, long time offensive lineman, one of the best in the league, former


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[Assistant] Overall number four pick in 2010, played nine years in Washington. He wants out, wants more money. He doesn't like the way that the team necessarily handled his medical issues. Yes. And I think that's what it's more about than anything. I don't think it's the money thing.


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[Assistant] These are always dangerous when you do the would you rather. Would you rather never be able to watch football again or


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[Assistant] Chop off your manhood. That's a- that's a- So this is inspired by-


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[Assistant] This is inspired by, uh, Mike Rabel in the off season. Yes. Uh, Tennessee Titans head coach was asked on Taylor Luan's podcast. Right. Uh, if he would, if he would chop off his manhood to win the Super Bowl as a coach. And, uh, he said, he goes, quote, been married 20 years. Yeah, probably.


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[Assistant] I think that's an understandable stance not to want to chop it off, though. I think that people would give him a pass for, I think, the way you go here. I would hope so. You're not going to get a whole lot of hate. I'm already snipped, so I mean, I've had somewhat of a chop already, okay?


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[Assistant] So you're a big man on campus at the University of Texas winning a national championship there. Or you don't do that, and you have just a mediocre college career maybe, or average career, you don't win anything. Or, but you're a Super Bowl backup quarterback. Like you never played, but you were on the team.


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[Assistant] About Josh Allen the quarterback. Okay. His question is, is he the greatest, or is he a great wearer of shorts or the greatest wearer of shorts ever? So Josh Allen in shorts, I believe that's kind of like an internet thing, like a meme maybe going around. Yea, right. There should be a lot of talk about Josh Allen in shorts and I believe


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's a good call. I like that one. Thank you. Real quick, Andy Klabar, what are your NFC North power rankings? Your NFC North power rankings. I'll give you the odds as they currently sit.


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[Assistant] Peru's the internet. I already got them. Chicago's light favorite. Over Green Bay and then Minnesota's third but not far behind. Uh, who is far behind is Detroit, unfortunately.


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[Assistant] I have a, uh, I have a bet, a long-standing bet with my, uh, with my buddy back home. Right. We made this like 18 years ago. Yeaah. That the Detroit Lions would make it to a Super Bowl in Wayne Fonce's lifetime.


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[Assistant] Last year you picked out Phillip Lindsay as an under the radar running back. Do you have any other under the radar wide receiver running back that you see coming out this year? Maybe someone that we're not talking about that could have a big year. Uh, you called Phillip Lindsay last year. I appreciate that.


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[Assistant] The teams here. And you know that the, the Jeffrey is probably asking this for fantasy football purposes and you, you're on the record for not being a huge fan of fantasy football. Although you did participate in the Roto world. Learned a lot. Fantasy football show. You want to mention that because that was cool. It was like a two hour draft. It was with Josh Norris and the boys. Yep.


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[Assistant] TBD, but, so maybe this is TBD too, but it's kind of along the same lines with wide receivers. Uh, Garnett.


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[Assistant] West asks, is Myles Boykin the actual true number one wide receiver in Baltimore over Hollywood Brown, Marquise Brown, so who was taken in the first round and Boykin the Notre Dame guy, you know him very well in the third round by Baltimore, but so far Myles Boykin, the reports on him have been very, very positive.


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[Assistant] How about over on the defensive side, we got Matt Peek II, opinion on Myles Garrett, defensive player of the year this year. I know it's preseason, but goodness, he went nuts in game number one. He's apparently lost some weight this season, says he's feeling as powerful as ever. He trained with former UFC heavyweight champion


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[Assistant] Stipe Miucic. I saw that. Who's, uh, who's got a, uh, he's trying to get the belt back actually this Saturday against Dan Okomri. So, uhm, what do you think about-


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[Assistant] Greg Williams says he was only allowed to do two, one, two Bassrash moves, right? Yeah, right, right. I think that changes this year. Peter Kreibel, how far with accuracy could you throw when you were 14?


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[Assistant] Uh, Kawhi Leonard asks, So you look at a lot of film. You know, quarterback I think is easier for you just because you know the position obviously very well. It's all out there and it's obvious. But from looking at film, how, how, what is the position group where it's difficult to tell exactly who is doing what? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Interesting, okay. Alright, I think that's good. You think that's good? Yeah, that was a lot of good stuff there. Alright, good. I like that because, uh,


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[Assistant] And it almost, it's like you almost think that you can scout off TV. I mean, you certainly can't scout off stats anymore, and I think a lot of people try to do that. Yes, yes. That's very difficult to do in football because there's so many different variables. They think that you can get a pretty reasonable idea of a player on film, but you're saying there's another level of in-person sing.


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[Assistant] We're going over to London. You sound like y'all from London. Okay, we're going to Big Ben.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, okay, you know what time it is, it's Mike Florio, PFTPM Podcast, Chris Simms Unbuttoned Collaboration. Uhm, we have more games from London this week, you sound like y'all from London! Uh, it's a great scene in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, you need to see that, okay? It's a good one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're right. You're right. I mean, I don't know what else to say. I'm really most concerned about picking the games the right way straight up. I find that hard enough.


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[Assistant] Let alone being able to pick the spread anyways. And as you know, and I've said many times, I just picked the games and the scores and I don't look at the spread until afterwards, but either way, best bets. We won New England.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. I guess I need to start looking at that and maybe changing that a little bit because it's certainly not working out, okay? Uhm, we both went with New England, best bets. Will we both go to New England again this week? I mean, it's hard not to.


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[Assistant] Two, two, I was two and one last week in best bets. Hey, good for you. That was a good job, uh, getting that, that, uh, Baltimore win. Way to go. I mean that thread in the needle there. You, uh, you lost the Seattle game, which was very close as well. Uh, that was a heartbreaker.


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[Assistant] I'm glad you lost and uh, I took the Bears and the Falcons and that's what you do when you lose when you pick shit teams like that who you can't trust on the offensive side of the ball. So I deserve that. Let me just say this.


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[Assistant] It is. It's stressful. And yea, you did not want to give it up because you kept group texting us, uh, as it went on. How can they cover the spread? Uh, so yes. And uhm, so thank you for that great insight there and wasting another two minutes of our lives. Okay. Here we go. I gotta go. We gotta go.


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[Assistant] I have to do this show with you. First off, you look good in your all black. Way to go. Uh, it's a very nice color for you.


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[Assistant] Correct the scoring error, seven and five. Yep. Pete, AKA Mr. Mom can't count. So we got that. Okay. Um, we will do our three best bets recap at the end and I'm really going to give my one. Okay. I'm going to give my one that I like. I got four games right now for my best bets.


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[Assistant] And I gotta, I gotta cancel one of them out and it's not gonna be easy because I feel pretty good about all four of these this week. All right, let's start with the greatest Thursday night showdown we've ever seen. The Daniel Jones New York Giants versus the greatest franchise and greatest quarterback coach combination we have ever seen in the history of the sport. In New England, Wendy, night game, Patriots are gonna win. How much they gonna win by?


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[Assistant] That it does become hard for a guy like Brady who's really historically been unaffected by weather like that.


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[Assistant] But if it does get that nasty, then maybe that does slow the pace of the game down. You hit all the right points.


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[Assistant] Come on, the Patriots defense is special. The Giants offense has got issues. It's not only a rookie quarterback, but there's injuries everywhere. So that's concerning and the Giants defense is not good. So I'm with you. We got to give a shout out. Okay, to Chris.


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[Assistant] Uh, and for all those out there, Thursday Night Football underdogs are 5-0 this year. Okay, they are 5-0. They're going to be 5-1. They are definitely going to be 5-1 tonight. What's your score? I'm going 34-10 Patriots.


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[Assistant] Over in London, they're playing there. That's going to be awesome. I love the 9 30 start Eastern time because it is great to wake up and have some football to watch early in the morning and do that. Panthers favored by two in London over under at 47. What say you, Florio?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's right. That's where it starts. I think the conversation there. I just think of that Tampa Bay offense versus that Panthers defense. Panthers defense, one of the better units in all of football. If there is a weakness, maybe rushing defense to a degree.


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[Assistant] But I don't think Tampa Bay is a good enough running football team to really expose that weakness. Okay. And I have been really impressed with.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Panthers ability to rush the passer as of late. I really am. It's kind of taking their defense to another level. Seems like Dante Jackson, the corner's gonna be back healthy playing this game. So that'll be big as far as just matching up. The other side of the ball, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, I don't expect a lot of points from the Panthers either. You know, it's going to be the Christian McCaffrey show, a few completions and gadget plays here and there. Kyle Allen's done a nice job. He's not reinventing the wheel. He's kind of just taking what's there to be had. I don't think he's anything special as far as a quarterback talent.


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[Assistant] But the Bucs defense is not special either. And their pass defense is certainly not special. I mean, I don't know where it ranks, but it's gotta be really far down there. And I'll tell you right now, if you're listening, it's the worst pass defense in football. Uhm, now they can stop the run.


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[Assistant] I just think with the weapons, the way they can use McCaffrey in the pass game, Kyle Allen being just good enough. I think the Panthers won a close one 20 to 17, uh, in London. It's a close one fun game, but I think the Panthers, like you're saying, are gonna, are gonna win it.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I mean, we're, we're consumed with it. That's all we talk about. So I'm, uh, sometimes I just want to be like, ah, shut up, everybody. I've heard enough football this week. I can't hear it anymore. Let's let the games begin. Okay.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't bet on that one. I don't feel real comfortable. That's too close to call. That could be one stupid mistake by Jameis Winston or Kyle Allen and your bet could fall apart. Okay.


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[Assistant] The Bungles at the Ravens. Okay. Baltimore coming off a tough win in Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] The Cincinnati Bengals, uhm, who the hell did they play? Oh, that's right. They lost the Arizona Cardinals last week. They're, they are underdogs by 12 points. Ravens, uh, 12 point favorites over and under at 47 and a half. This is the start of our 1 PM game. Mike, how much do you see the Ravens winning this game by?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, the Bengals are a disaster. They're not very good. There's not a lot to look at on their roster that's, uh, you know, scary, scares you, whatever way it is. I mean, there's some offensive weapons there.


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[Assistant] But their offensive line's so bad, and I think Andy Dalton's so average that they can't even really take advantage of their offensive weapons completely. And then their defense is, uh, atrocious. And their defense is...


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[Assistant] If not the worst running defense in all of football, they're certainly right up there in the conversation. I think they might be second to last and the Miami Dolphins are last and that's not good.


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[Assistant] When you're playing the Baltimore Ravens who we know are going to run the football and they have two sledgehammers who run it up in the middle and Ingram and, uh, the other damn guy, you know, Edwards. And then you got a guy like Lamar Jackson who gets out on the edge. He's really their edge type run guy. I do worry about Baltimore's pass offense. Do we know the status?


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[Assistant] Of, uhm, Hollywood Brown. Do you, have you seen that, Mike? Cause I know he was battling a little foot injury that bothers me. But not enough either way to where it's gonna make me determine who I pick the game. I saw the Ravens were favored by 12. I have the Ravens winning 27-14.


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[Assistant] The one thing I just, the bangles so desperate, so horrible, you know, I'm giving them that just like a two tokens touchdowns. They're not scared of the Ravens. I can at least say that they're a team that's shown that aspect, but clearly out manned here. And I think the Ravens win comfortably 27 to 14.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel the same way. And, uh, yes. Thought they outplayed the Steelers, but you're right.


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[Assistant] There was certainly opportunities for the Steelers to steal away that game in general, uh, and the Ravens need to get back on track.


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[Assistant] Uh, their biggest issue for me is their defensive team speed. I do worry about that. No great pass rushers. Middle linebackers aren't special that way. Safeties without Tony Jefferson, him being hurt, that bothers me. Earl Thomas has lost a gear at least. Uh, they have good corner play, but I do worry about their team speed in general, especially with Hollywood Brown.


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[Assistant] If he's not in, that changes things for their offense because he is the one guy that scares people deep. But that's enough about that game. We know who's gonna win. Okay, here's one of the exciting games from 1 p.m. Seahawks, Browns. Browns lay an egg.


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[Assistant] Seahawks coming off, you know, extra rest because of that Thursday night game where they were fortunate as well to beat the Rams. I mean, there, there was one of those games where they controlled it. They lost control. They controlled it again. Then you went, oh my gosh, they're still going to lose. And they got lucky with the missed field goal.


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[Assistant] Uhm, how do you see this one playing out, Mike? Uh, just so you know, Seahawks are favored by 1.5 points over-under at 46.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I look at a, uh, you said a lot of good things there. I mean, the Seahawks going across the country playing that one o'clock time zone thing. I don't think it matters to them. Pete Carroll always seems to have that team ready to go no matter what time zone they're in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a few things I think that concern me a little bit in the matchup. I do think the Browns, of course, will put up a better showing.


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[Assistant] But I think this is what concerns me more than anything. The Browns, their run defense, we saw some issues there. Well, the Seahawks are one of the better running teams in football. They're going to continue to be patient with the run game.


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[Assistant] And you know, then on the outside, they're an aggressive throwing football team that way with Russell Wilson and DK Matkaff and Moore and Lockett. Sneaky good receivers up there in Seattle right now. Not the most creative offense, but they will attack


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[Assistant] Your secondary, deep outside the numbers, wherever it is, they make you defend the field, of course, with Russell Wilson scrambling so big too. Other thing I just go, when I flip around to the other side, you know, I worry about the Browns. I don't think they're going to be able to run against the Seattle Seahawks defense, which is phenomenal against the run. You can throw against the Seahawks, Mike.


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[Assistant] Those one on one matchups on the outside certainly favor the Cleveland Browns, but can the Cleveland Browns


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[Assistant] Pass protect against an, you know, an oncoming pass rush that's finding its way. Jadevion Clowney.


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[Assistant] Where, you know, last week he popped up watching the game too. I think he'll only get better. So I worry about that with the Browns. I think the Browns put up a spirited effort, but I'm going with you. Seahawks 24-20.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I, I do think he's wise. Now there, there's an inventory of plays you can always run against that Seattle defense. You hear me say it because it's so all over the NFL. There's, there's like, there's literally a phrase in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know what? They never really got to get into it. You know, they never got to really play their game just because they got down so quickly and then Baker Mayfield struggled.


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[Assistant] They never got to stay really consistent with the run game, and I don't think they ever really got to get into a flow of the football game. But whether they have those Seattle beaters, yes, Mike, I don't know if they do.


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[Assistant] That's a big question, certainly. They're gonna need them, but the biggest thing, and more than anything, with Baker Mayfield being a little off of his game as of late, not throwing the ball great, not great in the pocket as far as pocket presence, where to move, seeing lanes, seeing people, uhm,


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[Assistant] Is Baker Mayfield under center running the ball. What made him so successful at the end of last year was them running the ball and then doing play action pass where he got to set up deep behind the line of scrimmage where the pass rush wasn't as effective as far as getting into his vision and being around him because of the play action pass.


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[Assistant] So when you play in 3D zone and you run the ball, those linebackers come up to do their run fakes and then they got to drop back into their zone coverages.


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[Assistant] If you stay with the run and have those run fakes, that's when you can get Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. Like we saw last week, it was, you know, Gerald Everett and Cooper Cup who got behind those linebackers off of the play action pass fake. We'll see how effective they can be doing it. Uh, but either way, we both like to see Hawks to win that game on the road.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know. I think there's probably some truth to that. I do. Also, you know, I do think, you know, Freddie kitchens needs to stay strong to his convictions and what he believes in the offensive side of the ball, too. You know, I do think they've gotten into a little bit of, uh,


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[Assistant] And I don't know this. This is total speculation. This is just off my film study of...


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[Assistant] Uh, him curtailing the offense a little bit to maybe what Baker Mayfield likes too much. And you know, hey, I understand you got to do that to a degree, but this is a team that's not built and can't withstand like being in the shotgun and throwing the ball 35 to 40 times a game and doing that stuff.


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[Assistant] So Baker Mayfield's gonna have to adjust his game a little bit to what's best for the team overall. And I think that's one issue they're a little bit in between on in the games I've seen is, oh, it's shotgun.


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[Assistant] But man, we want to get in the power run. But Baker likes the shotgun, and he can get the ball out and do things like that. Yea, but they can't pass protect that well. And I still think the offensive passing game's finding its way, where the run game I have more confidence in, and I really think could have had some success last week if, uh, the game just didn't get out of hand.


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[Assistant] I agree, he does look thicker. There's no question about it. And is it affecting his mobility?


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[Assistant] Where the ball goes, you know, five feet over his head to where Odell can barely get a finger on it in time.


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[Assistant] So there is some issues there with, with, uh, Baker. Certainly not playing his best football, and, uh, if you're a Browns fan, you're hoping that kinda rounds into form, cause they're gonna need it.


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[Assistant] And, uh, some of the things I was concerned about him coming out in the draft are rearing its ugly head.


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[Assistant] You know, the first guy's not open, panicking in the pocket and leaving.


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[Assistant] Or the pocket collapsing and then just getting out of the pocket for no reason where no, just step up. There's, there's little lanes like Brady, like we talk about so much to step up and find a cozy place to throw the football. Uh, that is concerning to me right now with Baker Mayfield. And uh, you're right. That's one of the games of the week. I'm excited to see that. Okay. Another sneaky good game.


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[Assistant] Teddy Bridgewater, Sance, going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, Gardner Minshew, Teddy Bridgewater, Jaguars are favored by one point. Okay, and the Over-Unders at 44, I gotta, I can't lie, I was, uh, I was shocked to see that the Jaguars were favored by one.


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[Assistant] I mean, you said a lot of good things. I think the thing that jumps out to me, you know,


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[Assistant] The Jaguars, no Jalen Ramsey, or maybe he does play, that would be a huge boost for their team if he does, because he certainly would be able to be that matchup guy against Michael Thomas, uh, and that would go a long way to making maybe me feel a little more comfortable about the Jaguars slowing the Saints down.


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[Assistant] You know, but I think ultimately the Jaguars scheme being a little predictable on defense, uh, Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] Uh, his creativity. Bridgewater, you said everything correctly. He's comfortable now. I think they found the right formula. Uh, and they will continue to do that. And the other thing is...


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[Assistant] You know, the Saints haven't run the ball as good this year, but they still run the ball, and Sean Payton never loses sight of that in his offense. The Jaguars have issues with run defense. You know, a lot of speed up front, but not necessarily all the big guys you need to clog running lanes, and sometimes they move so aggressively, slanting and stunting this way.


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[Assistant] That they can be gashed in the run game. And we've seen that, uh, a few times this year. So I worry about that. And the Saints defense has changed.


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[Assistant] First off, the Jaguars want to run the ball first. You're not running on the Saints, at least not up the middle. I can tell you that. If you run at their front four, you know, night-night, it ain't happening. Your only chance to run is to maybe, you know, block everybody down and toss it outside, do stuff like that.


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[Assistant] But the, the, the Saints have changed their approach on the defensive side of the ball as far as not playing so much man to man. And that's really ultimately what makes me feel comfortable about picking them in this game as well. They can match the Jaguars physicality. I like the Saints 28 to 20 in this one. Uh, and really,


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[Assistant] You know, I like GardnerMinshew and the things he's doing. I just think the Saints match up really well with what the Jaguars want to do.


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[Assistant] I think I was right about my quarterback rankings. Kurt Warner was wrong. Drew Brees is not the number two quarterback in football.


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[Assistant] Yes, Brady should have been around like six or five somewhere in that range. Probably really six was because that was pre Andrew Luck retiring. So yes, I should not have him nine. I should have had him at six.


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[Assistant] For anybody that's watching football, I don't know how you could watch it right now and think that...


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[Assistant] Breeze or Tom Brady are on the same level as Mahomes, Watson, Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. I got it. You're, you're not evaluating the quarterback position if that's the case. You're taking the whole team and giving the quarterback credit. That's the case in that one. Um, so I just had to say that and I just wanted to shoot that way towards Kurt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is... There's some good games at one o'clock on Sunday. It's awesome, and the great thing is there's six games at one o'clock. Really only five, because nobody's gonna watch the Redskins versus the Dolphins, so I really only have to watch five games at one o'clock.


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[Assistant] Texans at Chiefs. Chiefs favored by 5 points. Chiefs got injury issues. Coming off the loss against the Colts. Little banged up. Little worried about that. Texans looked good last week. Uhm, what do you got Mike? Over under 54.4. Chiefs favored by 5. What do you got?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, hey, this is, this is a really intriguing matchup. I mean, I think this is the game of the day on Sunday, uh, with how it plays out right now. Watson versus my homes. It just doesn't get any better than that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I look at it and go Chiefs offense versus Texans defense. And one, I worry about the Chiefs offensive line. Two,


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[Assistant] The Chiefs don't run the football and this is not the week they're gonna start it because the Texans are big up front and you're not running the ball on them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I worry about, we don't know the Tyree kill status yet. I can't imagine Sammy Watkins is going to be effective if plays at all with a hamstring injury that he's dealing with. So I worry about that. And also I worry the Chiefs really haven't played good in the last three weeks. That's what scares me a little.


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[Assistant] I mean, they had one quarter against the Raiders. Okay, and then the rest of the game was kinda eh. The Lions game, very fortunate. Okay, last week of course didn't play well either.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Texans, I just want to flip around the other side. The Texans offense versus the Chiefs defense. Again, the Chiefs defense, as we know, not very talented. Okay, they're better than years past, but not a whole lot better. And Chris Jones isn't going to be playing with a groin injury.


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[Assistant] I mean, that really concerns me, uh, for the Chiefs team. I'm going with the upset here, okay? I'm taking the Houston Texans.


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[Assistant] To win this football game, I think they match up. I'm a little worried about the Texans past defense. It is not great, but I think because there's no run game to worry about, I think they're going to give them a tough time and be able to pressure a Mahomes who will be less than 100%.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was one of those things just when the game came about and, you know, I realized they were playing when I just saw the schedule Monday. I just said, ooh, that's interesting. And I do think the Texans match up quite well with them and the Chiefs injuries do bother me. And, uh, that's ultimately why I'm going with it. If the Texans win this game,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it could be. I mean, the pa- the bills, it's never gonna be pretty, but I think they're at least in that conversation.


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[Assistant] They will be a pain in the butt for no matter who they play, because that defense is so special. And, you know, as long as Josh Allen doesn't go crazy and just have that one or two just full Tropic Thunder moment every game, they will be very dangerous. Uhm, okay, you ready to move to the next one? Barnburner.


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[Assistant] Washington Redskins, Miami Dolphins. Okay, Redskins favored by three and a half. It's in Miami over under at 41. Let's not waste people on planet Earth's time with this one. Let's make it quick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel the same way. They have a little more talent on their team. Miami coming off the bye week though, I do think you'll see a...


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[Assistant] You know, a last ditch effort. They're going to have some belief that maybe they can pull this game off, but I'm with you. I'm going a little closer than that. I'm going to say the Redskins squeak it out 17 to 16 down in Miami, but find the way to win the football game. Nonetheless. Okay, now we're going to.


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[Assistant] He was on fire last week in New York. Diggs, Thielen, Cousins, they're back in the trust tree together. They all love each other once again. Will it last for another week or will the Eagles shit on that relationship?


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[Assistant] Did you know that? I did know that. I didn't, I didn't really read it all the way, but whatever.


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[Assistant] This is a tough one. First off, what's the status of Deshaun Jackson? I know it was looking like he was probably not going to play this week, but have you heard anything more there? That is a factor for me.


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[Assistant] I didn't factor him in. I just wasn't sure exactly the status. I didn't expect him to play. I mean, this was a tough one for me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because I look at it like this and just go, man, okay, I know the Vikings are at home, uh, they can run the football, Dalvin Cook special, but man, I just have a hard time thinking they're gonna be able to run the ball against this Philadelphia defense. That's one thing they are good at.


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[Assistant] They can stop the run in Philly. Now the scary thing is the Philly secondary is still not 100% and Philly did not look great last week in that Jets football game and I understand it's the Jets and it's hard to get yourself up for that type of game when you know you're the better team. But I do


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[Assistant] You know, I wonder if this is another week Kirk cousins and digs and feeling because of the banged up secondary of the Philadelphia Eagles that they don't have, you know, the advantage there is that Vikings offense of past game creative enough


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[Assistant] To beat some of these guys in the Eagles secondary. That's really where the game factors to me. I don't know how I feel about that. I think the Vikings will give the Eagles offense a really tough time. The Eagles find a run game.


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[Assistant] You know, is that gonna be something we see going forward? I mean, I felt like Thursday night against the Packers two weeks ago that they got something going. Last week they didn't need to rely on it.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Eagles here. 23-20. I don't feel comfortable about it. I'm really, I think I'm just picking them because...


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[Assistant] Doug Peterson, Carson Wentz, and I don't know if I have enough faith in the Vikings pass game yet to say they're gonna get it done, uh, but I don't feel good about it picking Eagles 23-20.


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[Assistant] Alright, I got some business to take care of, okay? It's the NHL Podcast, okay? Our Line Starts Podcast, okay?


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[Assistant] You know, all the knuckleheads that we have here at NBC that work hockey.


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[Assistant] Uh, especially Keith Jones and Jeremy Roenick. I mean, those are their knuckleheads, okay? They're awesome, hilarious. They probably will swear every bit as much as I do on my podcast, which is always going to make for a good listening. Uh, listen, uh, episode one dropped this week. Keith Jones, Jeremy Roenick telling stories.


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[Assistant] Like this one we're about to play for you right now.


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[Assistant] And that's why that's gonna be a good listen, cause there's a lot of personality on R-Line Starts Podcast. Episode 1 also has Pierre Maguire, his interview with George McPhee, the president of the Vegas Golden Knights. Download, subscribe, wherever you get your podcast, check it out, it'll be worth it. Keith Jones, you know, apparently does not like that I button my top button.


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[Assistant] Right? So, I've heard that from many people within the company, that he doesn't like it, that he wants to reach through the TV screen and unbutton it for me. He keeps telling people like that, you're gonna have to fight me, okay, Keith Jones, and you don't want none of this. I'm just joking. Hey, you know what? Yeah, I would pay for that.


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[Assistant] Let's get to the four o'clock games, okay? We got the Cardinals, the Falcons in Arizona. Falcons favored by two and a half. Falcons coming off that ugly game last week against the Texans. Cardinals get their first one of the year against the Cincinnati Bengals. Neither defense is very special. The Falcons defense really stinks. Uhm, where do you go? Where are you going here, Mike?


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[Assistant] Yeah, lost their way, you're right. The defense is just pitiful. I mean, not only is the talent not that good, gosh, how many plays I watched on film last week, Mike, where guys were talking as the ball's being snapped because they can't figure out their calls or their adjustments or who does what. I mean, those are things that concern me when I watch film.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Arizona on the other hand, yes, things have been better. I still worry about their defense in general. Okay, uh, I do.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I feel comfortable either way. I'm taking the Falcons to win this football game. Anybody out there that's thinking about betting this game is crazy. Uh, these are bad football teams and you should never bet on foot bad football teams, but I'm going to go with Ryan Ridley.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was stupid. That was a bad bet. Well, I also wasn't shocked. I wasn't worried. I was worried about the Texans defense last week. That's really where I was kind of playing is that the Falcons would just keep scoring and stay close. Uh, but no, I ate that shit big time.


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[Assistant] Okay, on that note, uh, what do you got next? 49ers Rams, one of the games of the week, uh, undefeated San Francisco 49ers, only undefeated team left in the NSE. The Rams coming off a loss, the second loss on a row, Thursday night football against the Seahawks, have extra time to prepare. 49ers.


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[Assistant] This is a tight one. I like both of these teams. I think they're both very good, but uh, who do you see winning this one?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you said a lot of good things there. Uhm, I, I, after the game the other night, I mean, first off, your point about the, the, the 49ers, they win this game, they're 13 and 3. Yeah, I mean, I, I'm with you there. The 49ers, I've seen enough now to go,


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[Assistant] Forget the playoffs. I know they're good enough to be in the playoffs. I think they're going to be in the conversation for a first round by. They're going to be in the conversation for a one or a two seed when we're in December. I really think that's where it's gone to. It's gone to, okay, I've seen enough to say they're in the playoffs somehow, some way.


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[Assistant] I really think they're good enough to go and win the West and be the top team in the NFC. Uhm, now I am concerned about the injuries and I thought after Monday night's game I said I'm not picking against the 49ers like the rest of the year.


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[Assistant] There's nothing to dislike about the football team. The only thing we can question at this point, maybe to a degree is if the run game and things don't work, we have yet to have to see Jimmy Garoppolo carry the squad.


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[Assistant] This might be one of those weeks that happens. When I saw the use check, McGlinchey injury, the desperation factor like you talked about with the Rams, the fact that they have extra days to prepare and it's a short week for the 49ers and they're feeling good,


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[Assistant] I think the 49ers are the better football team. I do. I just think with the desperation and the injuries, I'm going to pick the Rams and a close one.


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[Assistant] I don't think points will be real high scoring here just because I think that 49er defense is real and I think they can slow down the attack of McVeigh and Goff as, as phenomenal as they have been.


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[Assistant] But at the same time those injuries against that Rams defensive line and Shanahan having to find a new formula on the offensive side of the ball I think causes them to sputter just a little bit this week.


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[Assistant] Okay, Titans, uh, the, the Broncos are favored by two and a half. The over-under is at thirty-nine.


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[Assistant] Denver coming off a big win in Los Angeles against the Chargers. The Titans coming off an ugly home loss against the Bills where what were they 0 for 4 on field goals? Not all of them are makeable. They were tough, some of them, but either way, they blew some opportunities there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, how do you see this going with two teams that are kind of like a roller coaster, especially the Titans?


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[Assistant] Uhm, yes, but I'm wi- I mean, with you, as far as a lot of the things you're saying, if I just had to get technical with the football aspect of it, you know, both of these teams very good on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Titans defense, I just think against the Broncos offense.


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[Assistant] Is gonna give that Broncos offense issues. They have a good secondary in Tennessee. I think that'll allow them to add extra resources to the run game of Denver, which is picked up with Philip Lindsay and company as of late on the other side of the ball. I worry about the Titans offense versus the Broncos defense too, but


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[Assistant] I just think I'm gonna put my faith a little bit more in Mariota, Derek Henry.


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[Assistant] Some of the receivers, they got AJ Brown and company there in Tennessee that they can just get it done. I think Cody Parky hits the game winning field goal to win it. 1916 Titans, uh, they pull off the upset on the road. Okay.


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[Assistant] Cowboys Jets. Let's not waste our time. We both think of the Cowboys are going to win. Cowboys are favored by seven and a half points on the road against the New York Jets.


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[Assistant] Sammy the Savior is back, so at least that gives the Jets a fighting chance. Uhm, over, under at 44 and a half, and like I said, the Cowboys are favored by 7.5. Michael Florio, what do you see?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you there. Uhm, and to promote the PFTPM podcast this week, Mike Fleurio did have a one Dak Prescott on this week. Did an interview with him. I know I caught a few minutes of it.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's worth the listen out there. Anybody check out the PFTPM podcast. Mike always has.


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[Assistant] Uh, not always, but most weeks has, has a few good interviews on there with some stars around the NFL and Mike deep dives into a lot of different issues that are going on around the NFL. Mike is an asshole, but he's pretty good at hosting shows and podcasts. Okay, now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, maybe that slows down their dominance a little bit, but the Jets don't have the pass rushers to really expose that aspect.


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[Assistant] That's Jerry Jones. Right, okay. So either way, I have a hard time thinking the Jets can move the ball on this Cowboys defense. Jets, not a lot of weaponry.


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[Assistant] Uh, they need to be a little more creative. I think on the offensive side of the ball too. And we know the, the, the Cowboys defense is phenomenal and they're going to be pissed off in Dallas with the way they laid an egg at home last week against Green Bay. I'm going Cowboys 27 to 13.


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[Assistant] And I think it's like an ugly 27 to 13. I'm like it's 27 to seven with like seven minutes left in the game and the Jets get to field goal drives late to make it look like it's something something along those lines before we expect them to dominate the football game and that


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[Assistant] Will take me to promoting the Sunday Night 7 brought to you by Mike Florio.


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[Assistant] Is that his name? Benny Snell? The rookie from Kentucky, right, exactly right. That's right. Uh, but uh, I don't know, who do you like out of those, Chris? Uhm, as far as the runners for most rushing yards, I'm gonna go, this is gonna be a Melvin Gordon week.


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[Assistant] First off, their pass-protecting O-line has got issues. Pouncy just got hurt.


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[Assistant] And this front four for the Steelers are still legit to where I think they got to run the ball and stay patient with it if they just want to make sure that Stefan Tuett and Hayward and Dupree and Watt don't ruin the game, uh, and cause, you know, sack strip fumbles and things like that to where the Steelers would pull some type of upset off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay. Alright, that's, that's good. And just so we know, we had somebody who won some money last week on the Sunday Night 7 as well. Uhm, I can't remember the name. Does somebody want to say that? Maggie.


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[Assistant] Maggie, who was, was a Vikings fan, okay, uh, Maggie the Vikings fan got all seven correct, and I, and I, she's the first person to get all seven correct, and I think she won what, was it 50,000?


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[Assistant] Yep, Browns fans coming back to reality, uh, and they could be really in reality after this weekend. Alright, let's get to that Steelers-Chargers game. Uh, Chargers favored by seven points at home. Forty-one and a half is the over-under. Uhm, go ahead Mike, you wanna lead it off?


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[Assistant] Can the Steelers run the ball? I mean, can they find a way to run the freaking football?


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[Assistant] That's one of the most disappointing things I think about the offensive side of the Steelers this year. Yeah, I know there's no Leveon Bell and Antonio Brown, you know, but what's really being shown is the loss of Mike Munchak, the offensive line coach who went to Denver is really the thing that bothers me. Not only are they not run blocking well,


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[Assistant] You know, there's just no drive off the ball and I don't get the feeling the team is dedicated to the run either. Like it's just, there must be a lot of practice all week in the shotgun and working on the passes and all those things and, uh, that's been disappointing.


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[Assistant] And it's disappointing, especially when you talk about this matchup, because the Chargers, you can run on this football team.


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[Assistant] They, they, they do not have great size in the interior part of their defense. There's no Melvin Ingram. There's no Derwin James. They have small linebackers. Uhm, there's issues right there right now with that Chargers defense. It's not special. And I think Devlin Hodges


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[Assistant] Like, as far as the pass game's concerned, it's gonna be better than with Mason Rudolph. I think Devlin Hodges is a better quarterback and thrower than Mason Rudolph. I do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I think they can, they can move the ball a little that way and be somewhat effective. The other thing is, I flip it around to the other side and I go, man, I worry about the Chargers and their own line against the Steelers front. The Steelers front is still really awesome.


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[Assistant] But what I get scared about with the Steelers mic is in the secondary,


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[Assistant] And in coverage, they do stuff that just, uh, you just can't do some weeks. And I don't understand it. I just don't understand how Devin Bush can be running 20 yards downfield with guys like Willie Snead or Hollywood Brown.


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[Assistant] And get matched up that way. And that scares me against the Chargers who have a lot of different ways to throw the football, even though I'm not crazy about their pass protection. I'm going to pick the Chargers to win a close one.


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[Assistant] I think they're just gonna eke this out. 20 to 17 chargers at home. I think the Steelers give one last spirited effort here and make things tough, but just can't pull it out.


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[Assistant] Yep, I hear you. I totally can see that. I mean, it's not, it's not crazy. It would scare me to bet on this game. Alright.


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[Assistant] Monday Night Football, we got a good one. NSC North Battle. It's Rodgers or Stafford, the Lions, the Packers. It's funny.


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[Assistant] Both of these teams have become run first, let's play defensive type football teams, but either way, the Packers are favored by four and a half at home after their impressive win last week, uh, against the Dallas Cowboys on the road over under at 47 Lions coming off the bye week. Uh, what do you think, Mike?


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[Assistant] I like, I like where the Packers are too. I like where really both teams are at. I mean, you're right. I mean, you know, the Lions are...


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[Assistant] Exceeding a lot of people's expectations and really could probably have a better record if you sit here and look at it. I mean, that was at least that tie week one where they blew it. They should at least have that off their resume and have an extra win on the, on the, on the uh, stat sheet. Uhm. Oh, they, they, they, they had, they could have beaten the


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[Assistant] This is, I do worry about the bye week, like you said, with Matt Patricia, okay, the way he can coach defenses, the way he can break down offenses, the Packers passing offense, which is a little bit elementary still.


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[Assistant] And that scares me a little too because that increases the lion's ability to play man to man and be effective that way.


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[Assistant] The Lions have had trouble stopping the run, and the Packers are going to stay patient with the run.


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[Assistant] Uhm, now on the other side of the ball, I worry about a lot of the same things with the Packers defense. Packers defense, I don't feel good about their run defense. I love their linebackers and everything like that, but their interior D lineman, other than Kenny Clark, I don't love him.


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[Assistant] And I, I didn't want to, because I really want to pick the Lions. But I'm picking the Packers to win 21 to 20, only because they're home and it's Aaron Rodgers. I think this will be a tough one, but I think Rodgers is going to have to make like late game magic to pull this one out.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm, I'm pumped for that game too. Alright, let's do it. Here we go. You ready? Let's recap our best bets or let's actually just tell them first. We haven't told anybody so we can't recap it, but let's go best bets. Pick number one for Michael Joseph. Florio is it's not


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Patriots too. That'll be pick number one for me as well. I pick a 34 to 10. Uh, it might not even be that pretty or whatever, but I think ultimately, yeaah, 16 and a half points is just not enough for me. The Patriots win this one easy. So I'm with you there. Okay, we both got the Patriots. Best bet number two with Michael James Florio.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you there. That was one that I had starred where I thought about doing it. And really, as a, as you just said it, I go, why am I not doing it is the question. I don't even know if I have an answer other than I'm just a little.


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[Assistant] Uh, as much as I like the Jaguars and some of the things they do.


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[Assistant] I think the Saints match up really well with the Jaguars. I don't think that the Jaguars will be able to run the football. I like what you've heard me say. The Saints have adjusted their play in the secondary and I just think Teddy Bridgewater and company will be able to do enough on the offensive side of the ball where I picked the Saints to win the game 28 to 20.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that really gives me a nine point cushion there overall. Uh, so that's the New Orleans Saints will be my second bed of the week.


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[Assistant] It's alright. I'm gonna stick with it. I'm gonna stay there. But that, that is, that is a little bit of a game changer. And just this, this is why for everyone that's out there. Because now Michael Thomas can be singled up by Jalen Ramsey.


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[Assistant] And now you can use linebacker and safety combinations to cover Alvin Kamara as he comes out of the backfield or Jared Cook on some of his routes.


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[Assistant] And that's where it gets a little scary overall because yeah, Jalen Ramsey can be trusted to be on an island versus Michael Thomas, but either way, I'm still going to stick with the Saints. I think the Saints are rolling in one of the better teams in the NFL. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that speaks to the relationship the rat and the owners trying to...


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[Assistant] Smooth things over with a guy that he knows is a star and a special player for the franchise and they drafted him.


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[Assistant] And really, you know, other than a few emotional outbursts during games, Jalen Ramsey's been a good Jaguar.


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[Assistant] I mean, gosh, oh, he's a cocky corner. Hmm, we've never seen one like that in the NFL. We've never seen a cocky corner before. I don't understand why people don't like Jalen Ramsey at times. I don't get it.


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[Assistant] I mean, why? Because he yells at the receiver when he shuts them down for the seventh time in a row in the pass game. I mean, that's what a corner should do.


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[Assistant] It's only the hardest physically like thing to do on earth. Oh, hey, cover the fastest people in the world on this thing that's a hundred feet, a hundred yards long and fifty two and a half third yards wide. Just cover them man to man and don't let them ever get open.


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[Assistant] I mean, gosh, damn, how hard is that? I mean, he does it, so that's why, uh, he's cocky, okay? Let me just add this observation.


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[Assistant] I think you're right there though, the writing, the writing, I think the writing's on the wall a little bit there, I'm with you. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] That's uh, that's scary, but okay, you can have it. Uhm, I am going with the game you ju- I thought about, let me just say this, I thought about the Lions, okay?


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[Assistant] Cause I think there's a real chance the Lions can upset Green Bay in Green Bay. But I just don't trust it and I'm not gonna pick against Aaron Rodgers and it's just not quite enough points. I could see the Packers being down by a point and Rodgers driving them down to score a touchdown late and they win by more than four and a half. So that scares me. I'm going with the, with the Houston Texans on the road.


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[Assistant] Getting, getting five points. Chiefs favored by five. I don't think there's any way the Texans lose by more than five.


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[Assistant] And I really think the Texans are gonna win this football game. I think with the injuries the Chiefs have, uh, and the way the Texas team's built,


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[Assistant] You know, yeah, I worry about their secondary against the Chiefs passing game, but that's this. I have the same feeling on the other side of the ball and the Chiefs are not at 100% on the offensive side of the ball. I got the Texans winning the game 31-27 and that will be my third best bet of the week. I now kind of wish I had stuck with the


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[Assistant] Mike, his posse, they're always funny. Uhm, and Chris Sims unbuttoned. You know where to find it. Anywhere you download your podcast, you shall see my symbol.


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[Assistant] of a man buttoned up with a football head. Mike, I'll see you Sunday.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Sims on Button Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] What's crazy is we moved to Chicago, and my older cousins, they're like six to ten years older than me, both of them. Right. They were playing football, and just as the annoying little cousin, I wanted to be like them. Sure. So that was my first exposure. I sucked though. I played tight end, and you know, the tight end never gets the ball. No, definitely not. It's like the quarterback.


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[Assistant] We don't throw a lot, you just run. But when we moved back to Charlotte, you know, skills started to increase, started playing running back, all that good stuff. And it was just one of the things, we would play in the street, we'd play in the park, we'd play in the grass, all over the place.


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[Assistant] And as a result, you're getting better at this thing and you don't even really know that it's gonna translate into like real success one day.


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[Assistant] No. About what? For what? He is in the B-League MBC Sports semifinals, or finals this weekend. Finals!


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[Assistant] What are you going for? I just want to- But to off your- I like this though. Thank you. Yeah. It's nice. C-League Championship Showdown this weekend. Yes. A-League Championship Showdown. Just saying.


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[Assistant] It's otherwise known as Five Minutes of Fame. Five Minutes of Fame. That's all that it is this weekend. So I thought the best thing to do, because as we talk about Chris all the time,


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[Assistant] The NFL season kind of comes down to increments of 4 weeks, right? Because obviously weeks 12 through 16 is very different than week 4 through 8. Right. And so there have been some players who have starred in the last


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[Assistant] Four weeks that were kind of a complete afterthought at the top of the season. And so now in this kind of win and you get your title showdown this weekend, why not ask and wonder if these players are worthy candidates to still believe in?


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[Assistant] So let's start with over the last four weeks, Ryan Tannehill has been the number four scoring quarterback. Yeah. AJ Brown, the number one wide receiver. Yeah. This week they get the New Orleans Saints. Right. We know that almost certainly.


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[Assistant] So, we know AJ Brown most likely will be shadowed by Marshawn Lattimore. Yeah. Difficult matchup. Uh huh. But Ryan Tannehill is just playing at an outstanding level. Obviously the volume is not really there. They don't want him to throw 30 to 35 times. Yeah, right.


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[Assistant] Chris, what's your read on the Saints right now in this defense? Because while we feel great about the Saints right now, they did just lose Marcus Davenport and Sean Rankin to pivotal piece on the interior and maybe were the pieces other than Jared Cook offensively on the defense side to take them over the top. And we might not have that as we obviously approached


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[Assistant] They've allowed just three top 12 scoring quarterbacks over the last 11 games. So while Ryan Taino kinda took you here in your fantasy playoffs, it'd be difficult for me to start him in this finals. It would be tough.


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[Assistant] Up to this point. Right. Hopefully you do because maybe some people you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, when they had Drew Brees hurt, went to Ryan Tannehill, or while Aaron Rodgers had some down weeks, maybe turned to Ryan Tannehill and played the matchups here. This is not really a matchup that I would want to play with Tannehill, but still would want to do it with AJ Brown, who was obviously emerging as one of the best young wide receiver. Definitely, without a doubt. Just a, almost a rare player.


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[Assistant] In terms of the size and the speed and the yards after catch that he's creating already, it's remarkable what he's doing.


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[Assistant] They've only allowed three top 12 scoring quarterbacks over the last 11 games.


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[Assistant] Davante Parker. Over the last four weeks, he's been the wide receiver six. Tearing it up.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is a player who, as you know, it's like the post, post, post hype right now for Devontae Parker, and he's landed this contract extension. I mean, he's scored 96 fantasy points on targets 15 plus yards or further down the field. That's the fourth best in the league. Meanwhile, the Bengals, who he faces this weekend,


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[Assistant] Twenty-two percent of the completions they've allowed this year have gained twenty or more yards, which is thirty-first in the league. So it kind of is a perfect matchup here for De'Vante Parker and his style and who he's playing this weekend.


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[Assistant] How can this happen so often that we see where contract your players just completely outperform whatever they've done in the past?


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[Assistant] And in some ways I think he's the perfect fit with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Cause Fitzpatrick doesn't care if you're open or you're not. He's gonna throw it up there and De'Vante Parker just wins at the catch point. So you're saying start him this week.


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[Assistant] No, because obviously DeAndre Hopkins is facing off against the Tampa Bay Bucks secondary. What about a Jarvis Landry versus like the... Oh, that's an interesting one. See, that's where you get into Mr. Ravens. And what Landry gives you, that's a great question, because he's more of a volume receiver than anything else, like, obviously he does have a big play in him every once in a while, but that's not an offense I want to trust in other than Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] At all. Yeaah, you're right. So I absolutely would start Devonte Parker. In fact, I might start someone like Rashad Perryman.


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[Assistant] There's a game. I've game. You've come with, you've come with information. I mean look, in order to get on this show, you have to do your research, you have to do your work. This is what I've learned. Okay. Uhm, so, I looked at the top week 16 performances, which is again, your fantasy championship over the last decade.


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[Assistant] And I, there are a few, like, random names.


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[Assistant] Exactly, who's put up the most points at each position? And I wanna see if you can guess the player.


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[Assistant] Let's start at quarterback. Hopefully you didn't read my notes. This quarterback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2010.


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[Assistant] And a 38-15 winner of the Seattle Seahawks completed 21 of 26 passes, 237 yards, and five touchdowns to the tune of 32 fantasy points in week 16 of the season. 2010.


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[Assistant] Well, you compare that, uh, Bucks quarterback performance in week 16 to Chris Simms' in December 24th of 2005. Chris and Steve against the, uh, Falcons? Yes, 27-24 win of the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, how many people's championships did Chris win? Do you know what you were? I had a pretty good game.


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[Assistant] 29 to 42. Alright. 285. Okay. Two touchdowns. Yep. Okay. Two picks. Two picks.


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[Assistant] The backfield that year was Mark Ingram, but he was injured. He was injured, and who the hell else was with him? I don't know. Well, CJ Spiller was in that backfield, but this name, Tim Hightower. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] Prior to week 14 of that season, he had just 12 carries on the year, but then goes and has the third most fancy points in week 16 of the decade.


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[Assistant] Because he got the volume. We know he was gonna get the volume that day. 27 carries. He was the only running back on that team. Right. In that game. Pretty insane. Okay, one more.


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[Assistant] At wide receiver, 24 years of age, for the Cincinnati Bengals in 2010.


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[Assistant] This, this guy has one highlight real play that some might call acrobatic. Tall.


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[Assistant] Because who knows if Davencook plays this weekend, but I think whoever steps up in that place of Mike Boone or Alexander Maddison, whoever gets that opportunity, because Maddison's been hurt as well, gets a Davencook style workload and could potentially put up 20 something points.


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[Assistant] Oh, I've got Tyree Kill, I've got Julian Edelman, uhm, I have Christian Kirk, and I'm Mario Cooper.


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[Assistant] He barely played. It's a difficult, I mean, I'm expected to score a lot. I've got Chris Carson, Zyku, Elliot. What about you, Ahmed? I mean, we want to see you at what we're gonna see.


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[Assistant] How much have you talked about, I'm sure you've talked about Jameis a lot, but that's a situation to me other than Cam Newton is the biggest storyline of the offseason.


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[Assistant] It's so wild though, because he obviously has super negative plays. And in fact, I think he has five drives this season where he throws, where he's thrown an interception in that first drive. Right. But they're four and one in those games. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, it's one of those scenarios where, and I think I read this, if a team loses the turnover differential in a game, they lose 78% of the time, and he puts you squarely in that every single time. He has stretches of the game where he plays and throws at a top 5 level.


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, they said we didn't wear enough purple earlier, so I decided to purple it up, right? So I purple it up, and I got a story behind this shirt. This is a shirt


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[Assistant] You, especially if you grew up in Steelers country, you couldn't go to the store and find a viking's jersey. It was impossible. I don't know how she found it. It was like one alone on a rack.


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[Assistant] That accidentally got sent to the sporting goods store. You couldn't just order whatever you wanted. You couldn't get whatever you wanted. You were at the mercy of whatever they put on the shelves. And they put the stuff on the shelves that sold. So it was the one time


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[Assistant] The Titans trend has been broken. That's the one big takeaway. It used to be if they're the underdogs, they win. If they're the favorites, they lose. If they're the underdogs and they got shut out 16 to nothing, they'll have Ryan Tannehill this week.


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[Assistant] You're right, they were on my phone. I was sending a text. I got a business to run while we do this. You talk, you talk, and I listen, and I take care of any little fires that may be going on at the media conglomerate that I've carefully and meticulously built over the last 18 years.


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[Assistant] I had a moment of clarity in the last segment of PFT Live and I decided to go with the Denver Broncos.


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[Assistant] I think that in a game like this where I expect it to be close, the edge goes to the home team and it's that simple. And I have set aside the fact that the Chiefs are supposed to be a team that contends for a Super Bowl berth and we're getting excited about Patriots Chiefs in the regular season and maybe Patriots Chiefs rematch in the postseason.


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[Assistant] Two wins in a row for the Broncos. And Patrick Mahomes' ankle isn't right. Other injuries for the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I just decided, and you know what, the other thing too, if I'm gonna be wrong by taking the Broncos, I'm gonna regret it less than if I take the Chiefs and I'm wrong, if that makes any sense whatsoever. So, I don't care if the Chiefs win, I won't regret rolling the dice on the Broncos.


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[Assistant] They're gonna come to that conclusion, and you know, a lot of ego gets into it, like Steve Spagnola probably thinks, let's just keep chopping wood, let's keep doing what we're doing, this will eventually work, instead of making something that would be dramatic like that, with that, that all or nothing type defense that is aimed at avoiding long drives.


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[Assistant] Now maybe it's something that dawns on them after this Thursday night game, and they have a mini-buy to figure out where they are, but I think for now,


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[Assistant] They, they are gonna keep doing what they've been doing, and if the Broncos do what other teams have done, I think they can keep it close enough to win. I got it 24-23. Okay. Razor thin margin, but the Broncos straight up and the Broncos getting three, obviously cover if they win by one, that's what I have.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he's either gonna be taking Julio Jones wherever he goes, or you cover Calvin Ridley and then you double Julio Jones with other guys, or maybe he just stays on one side of the field. I mean, we're gonna find out a lot.


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[Assistant] As to how the Rams plan to use Jalen Ramsey, although look at it this way, how they use him with just a couple of days to get ready may be very different than how they use him with a full week to get ready. So maybe what we see on Sunday is just a mirage. Maybe they're trying to set up somebody else farther down the line as to how to expect to have Jalen Ramsey be deployed. But either way, it makes a game that otherwise would have been very boring.


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[Assistant] The spread is only three, which kinda stuns me, cause the falcons aren't good, they can't stop anybody and this is a great