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[Assistant] Nothing in the regular season will really change your opinion of this team until the postseason rolls around, but...


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[Assistant] Uh, Garland's gonna start first. Mowgli though, there is, and okay, I'm gonna go back to go forward real quick. Their defensive rating since December 15th and those two went out is first in the NBA. Part of the reason they've been so good defensively is with just the one big,


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[Assistant] They switch everything. Right. And let's give Isaac a curl all the credit. I agree with that. He has taken a massive state TV, take 251 full here. Just a little, uh, a little testament to his range. Last week he was the primary defender on Damon Lillard held of eight points under his average. We know Dame point guard scoring short an air. Last night he was the primary defender on Paolo Banquero, a center.


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[Assistant] He guards one through five. He's the ultimate. And how many guys can do that? Defense. Very few held back care to 18 points below his shooting percentage below a season average when they have Mowgli and Garland back.


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[Assistant] Uh, Curl's not in the lineup and Max Struse is the guy drawing those assignments. Mm. Max Struse's defensive resistance is not comparable. Struse isn't a bad defender.


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[Assistant] Other things, defensively and offensively.


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[Assistant] This season, so it's a little, it's not going to be perfect because I can't sort it that quickly, but Allen on the year 30.2 minutes and Mobley was 33.6.


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[Assistant] I actually don't know if I can say that. Uhm, scratch the record, just go.


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[Assistant] Wired shot. It is. So what's Mobly's status, Mike? Mobly's still at least a month away.


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[Assistant] It's theoretically not insane, but Mobley's not the one center guy that Alan is right now. Like I think we saw that last year. Alan is the perfect


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[Assistant] In a perfect world, Mowgli's the center. But what is Jason Lloyd who sat on this panel a hundred times said, in his mind, he's the Kevin Durant. He's a three. Oh no. Well you can't have a three playing.


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[Assistant] He wants to get his rookie max. To this point of his career, Evan Mobley has not made significant life changing money yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, Charles T said, Stump's biggest regret should be leaking to the media. Why is he doing a press run as an RV coach? You can't trust him. He's done in the NFL. Charles T also said, does Deshawn's four wins not help Browns make the playoffs this year? They did. Did Watson beating the Ravens not help us make the playoffs? You guys are all out of pocket.


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[Assistant] Let me, let me run through these so we get to the roast cause roasts are really good. Derek Waldmiller says, everybody wanna talk about the Sean's contract, but not the fact we're paying JJ3 and Jedwill's 25 million next year and JJ's talking about a legacy contract.


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[Assistant] Sly says Watson didn't get the chance to play Cupcakes. Flacco and Baker got this year to play, uh, to pad their stats. Wait, Arizona was, they played Arizona and Tennessee?


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[Assistant] I got, I got some more. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Leezybaby says, here's how to look at the Watson trade. We paid a premium to have a guy for five years that gives us a chance to make the playoffs without Watson named the percentage chance the Browns make the playoffs each year until 2027.


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[Assistant] Daryl says, no more fire JB rants for now. Go Cavs. UCS is awesome. Love you guys. And our Mac dog says, do y'all agree that the Cavs and Brown gave up too much to acquire Mitchell and Watson and anything less than a championship will require these teams to salvage the best economic possible. Yes.


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[Assistant] So here's G Bush, he made it. Let's get a quick FanDuel reading, then we'll hop into our first topic. The NFL's regular season is wrapped up, but there's still plenty of time to get in on the action with FanDuel America's number one sportsbook.


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[Assistant] Well, G, we're glad you're here. Let's hop into our first topic, guys, because we have a condensed show because we're on WKYC, as Jay mentioned, later at 12.30. But the Browns are in need of an offensive coordinator. They have moved on from AVP. They've only interviewed one candidate so far. That was Andy Dickerson, the offensive line coach from Seattle yesterday.


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[Assistant] But my question today for you guys, how much say should Deshaun Watson have in whoever the Browns end up hiring as their next offensive coordinator?


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[Assistant] Wait, before we let Tim go, hold on, we got one more, we got one more from Tim. Tim, I'm putting you on the spot here, I should have asked you earlier, bad job out of me, but in our WKYC TV show today, we're ranking the top ten plays of the Brown season. In your mind, Tim, what was the best single play from the Brown season this year? I know I'm putting you on the spot, bad job out of me, but. That's tough, Mike. That's tough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a couple of ones that are candidates from us are the Amari Cooper touchdown catch for Chicago, Newsome's pick six, Miles Garrett blocking the field goal, Jerome Ford's run. Those are a couple that'll be on the list in some order.


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[Assistant] G. Bush. Yes sir. Two minutes real quick, then we'll move on to our playoff preview, then talk a little Cavs.


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[Assistant] Hey real quick guys, before we move on to the Cavs, give us your just who wins in the NFC matchups. You have Bucks, Lions, and 49ers Packers.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we have Jason Lloyd in here, we have Jason, we always like to talk a little Kaz because no one knows the ins and the outs of the Cavaliers better than our guy Jason. But first, I know we come to sports to escape from the crazy realities of real life, but can we just talk about


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[Assistant] Preparing for real life for a quick minute. According to the FDA, pharmacies are running out of important antibiotics right in the middle of the worst flu season in over a decade.


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[Assistant] We have Jason here and the Cavs at this point have played 39 games. Some teams have played 42. This is the midway point of the NBA season. The Cavs are red hot right now. They're without some of their best players, but the question I want to ask you guys today.


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[Assistant] At the halfway point of the 2023, 2024 NBA season.


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[Assistant] To answer your question, real quick, sorry to interrupt. I think it would be the 79 Super Sonics.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no question. What year was that? When they won two years ago? Yea, two years ago. Yea, he was...


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[Assistant] We got a couple super chats to wrap up the show and super chats today are brought to us by FanDuel America's number one sportsbook. The NFL regular season may have wrapped up, but there's still time to get in on the action with FanDuel.


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[Assistant] A couple super chats. Last one's a question, so I'll save the question for the end. The first one, from Broaddy's bottom line says, I confirm what Jay said. It's perfect.


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[Assistant] I don't know what that's a reference to, but. The shovel. He's talking about the shovel. Oh, the shovel. Perfect shovel. Oh, yeah, I'm telling you. Shorty Xander 13 said, I said a couple of days ago, Joe Thomas is joining the Munich Ravens. He's right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we have no idea what it is, but he is coaching Shorty Zander. Good call on that. Uh, Brody's bottom line said, did Joe Burrow tell Cincinnati to pick Jamar Chase? Uh, I'm not sure. I think that was in relation to how much.


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[Assistant] That was the right call. And it was the right call. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Three more real quick. Uh, Charles T said, G Bush looks like Golden Corral Tiger Woods. And Charles T.


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[Assistant] I'm Mikey McNuggets and the Browns Bangles game may not have any implications on the playoffs, but we're going to tell you who to root for as a Browns fan in the highly contested AFC South matchups because one of those three teams will be the Browns first round opponent next weekend.


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[Assistant] Bull Europe first, then let's start with Pierre Strong. Over-under. 62 and a half rushing yards for who could be the Browns' RB1 on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Next up, Jason, help out Cedric Tillman. G Bush said 100. The over-under is 53.5. Over-under for the Browns rookie receiver.


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[Assistant] He does. That's higher than Tillman. Give me the under. Yea, give me the under. Next. Jason, any rebuttal you concurring? I mean.


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[Assistant] Alright, the G boys, you're up last. How about over under one and a half touchdowns for Jeff Driscoll? Total touchdowns. This is over.


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[Assistant] My last one real quick, I am still Wacko for Flacco. The Bengals win, but who cares? The Browns are going to the playoffs. I'm with Jason. This game's irrelevant to nothing, but I like you guys all in the same sentiment, but.


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[Assistant] Who gives a darn how this game ends as long as the Browns are going to playoffs?


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[Assistant] I'm Adam the Bull and I'm going to tell you why none of the Texans wide receivers will be able to go off in this game. The Browns will shut them down.


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[Assistant] If he doesn't play, then yeaah, it changes things dramatically and could ultimately cost the Browns. That's how important Denzel Ward is.


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[Assistant] Can shut down Nico Collins, who is by far the Texans best wide receiver right now.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think I would still lean towards the Browns winning against the Texans, but I would be much more nervous about it. I was at an eight and a half when we talked about it earlier. I would be like a six or a five and a half. It sounds crazy, cause then, you know, but still, I think he has a huge impact on this defense.


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[Assistant] They played one of those games with Jake Browning and the Browns had a backup defense, but Jake Browning has played very well for the Bengals for the most part. He just played poorly against the Steelers. He played well against everybody else.


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[Assistant] And yeah, Trevor Lawrence was banged up, that's a factor. I get it, but he's still a pretty good quarterback. So, and Case Keenum's a crafty veteran who we all wanted to play when Baker was hurt. So I don't think the quarterback parade has been terrible.


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[Assistant] Yes, CJ Stroud is better than the guys they played the last five weeks. There's no doubt about it. He will be more of a challenge, but the Browns are also healthier on defense than they've been over the last month or so.


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[Assistant] You know, are we debating the quarterback you want to have right now in this moment? I'm guessing. Who's playing the best? Who is the best?


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[Assistant] Because think of it, if he was doing this in, in, for the Los Angeles Chargers, we might be thinking the same way.


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[Assistant] Let's face it, quality of opponent, it's not like he's beaten the best teams, while some other teams have played better opponents down the stretch.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Yeaah. I didn't pick the Browns to go to the Super Bowl. I got to go to the UFC Championship game.


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[Assistant] But I think DeBrowns, for the first time since I've been covering him,


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[Assistant] And for the first time in decades are a legitimate Super Bowl contender. I don't see how anybody could argue against it. Not the favorite, they don't belong, they shouldn't be the favorite. But they should be a serious contender. He could do it. With his experience, especially winning road games, the way he's playing right now, yeaah.


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[Assistant] There's more of a chance that he could turn into a pumpkin than some other guys who have been more consistent in recent years. But the way he's playing right now and the defense they have, if he continues playing like this, there's no, there's no reason the Browns couldn't win a Super Bowl this year.


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[Assistant] I got Joe Flachoff in a big game. I am throwing for 337 yards in this one. He is going off. Okay.


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[Assistant] I got the other guys combining for...


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[Assistant] Texans can try to shut down Amari Cooper, but they will fail at that. Cooper does it again. Amari's two touchdowns, 145 yards lead Browns to playoff win. Amari Cooper has been magnificent. You could argue in the modern history of the Browns, he's the best wide receiver they've had.


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[Assistant] And it's only been a couple of years. He's been phenomenal. He will do it again. The Texans stink in the secondary. They have no answers for him. He will dominate. They will win.


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[Assistant] And we will be on, even though it's Martin Luther King Day, we're gonna, normally we'd be off, but we're gonna be on celebrating, hopefully, a Browns win.


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[Assistant] I'm Jason Lloyd. I'm going to tell you that Joe Flacco is 59 yards away from passing Johnny Manziel on the Browns all-time passing list. Mike.


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[Assistant] And to do what this team has done is remarkable. I was talking to some of the Jets riders last night, the New York guys.


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[Assistant] Of all the dysfunction, the entire franchise just feels completely different. It's great to see.


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[Assistant] Noah Mari Cooper made it just remarkable. And what you're throwing to Elijah Moore, who hasn't done hardly anything all year, and Cedric Tillman, and David Bell is now on the field. This is your route tree. This is what you have to choose from.


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[Assistant] And obviously Nijoku had another big game. We talked to Bernie on the YouTube show about how is this guy always open? Why? How is David Nijoku at this point in the season as open as he is just rumbling down the field, full steam ahead.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's having a monster year. He's getting close to a thousand yards.


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[Assistant] And it's a credit to Joe. It's a credit to Flacco and the chemistry that these guys have developed as quickly as they have. They speak the same language. They see it the same way. Joe sees it the same way as Kevin does.


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[Assistant] They understand how they want to play. You know, he, people have mentioned before the Gary Kubiak connection and it's true, but it's, it's small because they only spent a year together in Minnesota and Joe and Kubiak spent a year together. So there is a little bit, but not much. I asked Joe last night if he knew Kevin at all. He said, no, he never really knew him before he got here.


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[Assistant] But these guys just fit together. The way that they see it and the way that they call it just fits.


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[Assistant] Oh, for sure. You go back. There was, I guess, I was trying to remember, in 2002, the last time they clinched it home, it was the Wren-Williams-Wren game that, of course, R. Jim Donovan called.


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[Assistant] But the Browns still hadn't clinched until later in the day. So the last time that the Browns played a game, won the game, clinched a playoff spot, knew they were in, was the 80s. It was the 1980s when they did it at home I think it was.


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[Assistant] It's been decades, literally, since anything like this has happened. I agree on 2020. It felt good, it was fun, but nobody could gather. Nobody could celebrate it together. Nobody could enjoy it.


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[Assistant] We were both at the game last night. That stadium was full before kickoff by 8pm. The LED lights were going off. The fireworks were going off. The introductions. The place was rocking. It was a great environment. I love it for the city. I love it for Browns fans all over the country really.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's, it's final, it's so, it's so long in the making and it's just appreciated. Just embrace it. You never know. You never know. You assume that they're going to be good for a while. And I do think that Kevin and AB, Andrew Barry are the right formula. And I think they're going to be here for a long time. And I do think that this is a new era of Browns football.


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[Assistant] But you just don't know this is such a magical year. You just have to embrace it and enjoy it and just enjoy the ride wherever


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[Assistant] But who would have ever thought Joe Flacco and Cleveland needed each other as much as they, they really did. Cleveland desperately needed a quarterback and needed someone, a veteran, an adult in the room who could come in and handle responsibilities. And Joe needed an opportunity. And of all places for this to happen, Cleveland and Joe Flacco needed each other and found each other at the altar.


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[Assistant] Not, not Joe Flacco. And so I do think that this is his, I've said it before, this is his walk up the 18th fairway that he never thought, he thought his career was over. It was December, it was November, nobody had called him yet. Of course he thinks it's over. And to get this opportunity to be embraced.


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[Assistant] To be cherished the way that he is, it's an unbelievable story. It's a terrific story. I don't want it to end.


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[Assistant] He should win it. Absolutely. He should win it. I hope he does. I think it's going to be a really interesting conversation if Baltimore locks up the one seed. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the room when Miles and Kevin sit down and Kevin tries to tell him, maybe you should sit this one out. You know, Miles Garrett is going to want to be on that field.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're gonna have a hard time dragging him off that field, but I do think it's probably the right call to sit him if there's nothing left to play for, but I think he's done enough, and I didn't see it, obviously I was at the game, I didn't see the broadcast, but I guess the broadcast did a nice job of integrating some of those advanced metrics that show how dominant he has been.


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[Assistant] Even though you can't just go off of one column, you can't just go strictly off sacks. And hopefully the voters don't do that where they just look solely at the sacks. Hopefully you look at overall impact, you look at some of the injuries that they've had, the way he's carried this team.


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[Assistant] Defensively. And also this sometimes does become sort of a lifetime achievement award. Whether you like it or not. Okay, this guy's due. He hasn't had it yet. We'll go ahead and anoint it to him. Miles doesn't have one yet. Now should be the time he should win it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. He's done everything he could possibly do. He's fought through injury. He's had the shoulder issue the last few weeks. I thought it affected him for a couple of weeks and lately the last couple of games he feels like he's back to himself.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're loving him. Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] This week was supposed to be Deshaun Watson versus CJ Stroud. Instead, it's Joe Flacco versus Case Keenan. But don't worry, we're still going to be talking about the franchise quarterbacks for both of these teams looking at the present and the future.


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[Assistant] That's it. Graduated kindergarten. Next year I graduated high school and now I'm here. So that's how I get it. Let's see how that works. First fill in the blank. The Cleveland Browns rushing attack has been blank lately, but it needs to be blank to beat Houston.


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[Assistant] Jason's up next. And Jason has to do with Mr. Kevin Stefanski. The sentence I gave Jason.


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[Assistant] More people should be calling Kevin Stefanski a blank.


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[Assistant] For his job this season. And Jason, you took an interesting approach with this one.


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[Assistant] Prove to me, um, you can run the football against his defense, right? So that might be a mindset, or it just might be like, hey, Benzell, go follow him and take him out of the game. Because Nico was playing at a high level right now. He's a, he's confident.


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[Assistant] Getting the ball out quickly. I think you gotta get the screen game going. Be creative with motions. And then with the motion create screens to your different backs, uhm, to your different receivers. And then I'm not gonna be afraid. To me, as an offensive minded guy, everybody has an identity.


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[Assistant] Nothing, because of D'Amico Ryan's, because how D'Amico runs his team, how he has the culture set. They keeping the main thing, the main thing right now. And obviously Bobby has an opportunity to elevate his career, which that will come whenever, if it's this year, next year, the year after that. But the way he has these guys locked in and have these guys focus, Bobby's slogan is focused on the Cleveland Browns right now.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he just is a great leader. So I expect Bobby to fall in line with what the task is at hand. Uhm, if not, honestly, if you don't go out there and perform.


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[Assistant] This week against at least a decent performance this week.


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[Assistant] Oh, you're 100% correct. I think we get too caught up in the fads. We get too caught up in trying to, uh, hire the smartest genius they can find as far as the offensive scheme or the, the most, uh, uh, uh.


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[Assistant] A more consistent or who is the actual best player for the rookie of the year, defense rookie of the year, whatever the award may be. But I think it's just fair, like hey.


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[Assistant] I have to go out and be aggressive on the defensive side of the ball and figure out okay, who are the best guys to go to bring into my team, whether it's free agency or draft.


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[Assistant] Uhm, do I, do I see the, the, the tide turning? I don't personally. I, I still think the game is, is still a offensive game. It's still, uhm, putting up crazy amount of points to them. I mean, look at Mike McDaniels and what they're doing in Miami. You look at,


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[Assistant] The, the, how serious it is in there and what their goal is and in mind. But at the same time, you look at CJ and what he's able to do.


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[Assistant] Feel awesome. So first we have an exhibition race, as I think I was here last year, we have an exhibition race in LA, in Los Angeles.


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[Assistant] Oh, it went great. It's fun and it's super support.


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[Assistant] We race out in, uh, I don't even know where out in California, but it's east of, it's 45 minutes or something east of LA. But that's the only other race that's like west coast. So it's good to just have west coast people be able to go. And I shouldn't say that's it because it's Las Vegas and Phoenix and like, we race in Portland, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] Why it was in the beginning of the season? I was, I can ask the same thing. I know, I asked the same thing too. It's actually a pretty cool thing. I mean, no other sport does that, where it's like you're super, it doesn't, it's, it's uh,


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[Assistant] I wouldn't call it the Super Bowl of racing. It's, it's as big an event. I mean, it's a massive, massive, yeaah. Yeaah, but it's not a championship. Right, that's true. It's a, it's a big, it's the biggest single event. It's the biggest race and if you were going to win one race and that's what you're judged on by history, it's like winning the Indy 500.


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[Assistant] I mean it's like, forever you're a Daytona 500 champion, so.


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[Assistant] I feel great, we took, uh, we actually have AJ Almaninger as, uh, we're putting him back in the Xfinity series, cause he's like, won the last two Xfinity championship, you know, the regular season championship.


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[Assistant] And then, so we're throwing him. We've got, uh, we've got SVG coming in. I don't know if you guys know who he is. I didn't until you mentioned his name to me the other night. He's, uh, phenomenal.


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[Assistant] New Zealand road course racer, uhm, you know, extremely, one of the best in the world. So he's coming to NASCAR and so he's racing for us in the Xfinity Series this year. Wow, very nice. So that's going to be huge.


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[Assistant] And celebrated, and like, it's just gonna be a fun season that way. And then we've got a new, uh, guy, Josh Williams, uh, running the Xfinity series. Who's run for years, but now we brought him over there. And then we moved Daniel Hemrick up to the cup series.


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[Assistant] How many cars you got? Uh, well we have five full time.


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[Assistant] So two in the cup series, and then we've got three in the Xfinity series. But you can run as many as you want, so we'll run more in the cup series than two sometimes. And we're running five at Daytona in the Xfinity series. So we also run the Xfinity series at Daytona.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, well they're, they're all, they're mostly small guys, but that's what you have to do if you have, if you do have a, uh,


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[Assistant] So we had one of our drivers, Ross Chastain, they asked him if he'd fill in. So there's a whole thing between Toyota, Chevy, and Ford that


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[Assistant] Well, so with our college company's championship, you know, our, our, uh, golf tournament at Firestone, uh, that we do every year with the PGA tour, you know, the champions tour, uh, we have an ambassador of golf. So this is actually a PGA, uh, champions tour, uh, thing.


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[Assistant] Last year we had Steph Curry, the year before that, Condoleezza Rice, George Bush, a few years, and so this year it's Peyton Manning. And so we asked him, I mean, he's involved in golf. Really, so the College Company's championship is more


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[Assistant] It's obviously golf, but it's a big deal in the community as far as philanthropy. So this past year we gave $1.2 million back to, you know, Akron and Northeast Ohio. And so, you know, we pick people that are


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[Assistant] But it's, it's really cool for, I would imagine it would be cool as a pro athlete to be like honored or part of like another sport.


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[Assistant] Peyton's getting good at golf and he's trying to be, he's trying to be great at golf. What's your handicap? Are you a good golfer? Mine? It just climbed back up to like 19.8. So no, I'm not a good golfer.


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[Assistant] Well, at Daytona, they got, they let us get up to 167 miles an hour.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's a little nerve wracking. Um, you know, you're, we did the whole Richard Petty experience. Actually, it was during, it was during COVID. Okay. And they let us, I actually bought out the track. It was my birthday. So we had a little birthday celebration.


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[Assistant] Can you believe they just let, they let you go out there. You're not, I mean, you're, you're, I mean, you're not in like a, you're in helmets and safety gear or whatever, but like the helmets, the worst thing I ever did not


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[Assistant] And I don't even need to say it that way, but like we did the whole thing around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway as well in Indycars. Oh wow. That's what I would love to do that. I've never done that. And you're not, you can't drive yourself, but they have, you know, it's a two seater, you know, where they, uh, you know, there's, there's a driver and you're just behind them, but that's a situation where,


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[Assistant] You're, you're going around indie. You've gotta be pretty, you've gotta be pretty, uh,


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[Assistant] Dare I say crazy? Those guys know. I don't know. They didn't tell us, but it felt like full speed.


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[Assistant] It's the same thing at Daytona. I mean, you're just trusting it. Now at Daytona, the NASCAR, they're wide open. I mean, you're not really lifting.


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[Assistant] Ah, uhm, yeah, probably, I mean, Days of Thunder.


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[Assistant] We've won there before, so I think we've won there three times. So they let us do it and it was a really cool experience. We dressed up in jackets and they had, so even before dinner they had it all catered and then they had up on the screen like the wins, like the winning moments or the last lap.


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[Assistant] Ah, boy, that's a good question. Probably the...


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[Assistant] NASCAR is exciting. I mean, even being part of the Daytona 500 and being, you know, I'm,


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[Assistant] I don't say I'm just a kid from Akron because I'm not even from Akron, but like, you know, you feel like that sometimes where like you just grew up and then I played college, I played at the University of Akron, uhm, and then all of a sudden,


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[Assistant] Have some success in business and are able to own like a professional sports team.


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[Assistant] And so the fact, yeaah, and then being able to be and actually have your name and your cars and everything else at a place like the Daytona 500 and qualify and run and actually have chances to win, yeaah, we won there, we won there three times in the Xfinity series.


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[Assistant] And now we've run, I don't know how many years this is that we've been in the Daytona 500, but uhm, it's a really thrilling, amazing experience. Probably the best in college, we played, you know, we were at the University of Akron, so you get to play sometimes at big schools, so when we played at Kansas State,


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[Assistant] But, but Jay, real quick, sorry, is that, you know, people can say, well, act like you've been there before. Well, we've never been here before.


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[Assistant] By the way, to defend G, when we got off the phone, I said, I said, I said, and Mike can back this up, I said, man, G's in La La Land. And then I said, but this whole season's been La La Land.


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[Assistant] Championing for him to play for most of the season.


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[Assistant] Uh, now, credit to Jerome Ford, as I've been down on him all year, I thought he played his best game last week. I thought he showed great patience, I thought he showed the best vision he's seen all year. I don't know what happened, hopefully that will continue, but I, you know, the numbers don't look eye-popping, but I thought he played really well and had some excellent runs.


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[Assistant] Right, that was a great play by him. He did a lot of work on that play. Tremendous play. But, I, every time I've seen Pierre Strong play, I feel like there's a little juice there that they haven't used for whatever reason. Now I trust Kevin Stefanski, obviously there's a reason they haven't used him.


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[Assistant] But, uh, the guy, you know, when he got a chance in New England was pretty effective and when he, I mean, 4.6 yards per carry in limited carries is pretty impressive behind an offensive line that's been not that good against, you know, in terms of the run.


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[Assistant] So he's the guy I'd like to see. I think he's, I think the Browns are gonna run the ball a ton in this game. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran for 100 yards this week. Wow, nice.


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[Assistant] Often with a quarterback of that level, which is Jeff Driscoll, PJ Walker, you know, if the defense state, maybe he's putting up those numbers if they've been blown out already, you know.


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[Assistant] Right, but Joe Flacco in the last few years, his win-loss record's terrible, and he's been, you know, at times terrible, but at times he's played well and they've lost.


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and I'm sure, I mean, Browning's been a starter now for half the year. I mean, he's playing. So I think most of their guys are going to play. I don't know, T Higgins is a little banged up too. I'm not sure what he's doing, but most of their guys are going to play. So, but.


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[Assistant] You never know what the motivation is. It's not like the Bengals have a chance to spoil something for the Browns, so I don't know what their motivation is going to be. It's a weird game. The Bengals are favored by seven.


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[Assistant] One other interesting guy, uhm, on this team that I assume is going to play is Ronnie Hickman.


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[Assistant] Now Ronnie Hickman has played really, really well the last few weeks. And you wonder like, as the Browns now have a lot of good players and they're paying a lot of money on a lot of players, you wonder if the Browns, like if they,


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[Assistant] So, you know, we'll see. I'm not saying I'm definitely going to let those guys go, but he's interesting because when he's played, I think he's played phenomenally well.


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[Assistant] That's still pretty good. Okay, you guys are out of your mind if you think they'd still be top 15. I said 20! Come on now. Listen, this is no insult to Jim Schwartz or the defense. I don't think they'd be the worst in football, but let's compare it here. The Bengals defense this year has not been very good. They've been a bottom 10 defense in the league.


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[Assistant] Of the Bengals starting defense and the Browns backup defense, the Bengals are better in every spot except for maybe safety. That's it.


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[Assistant] Alright, the Bengals would have a way better D-line, way better linebackers, and way better corners, if you're talking starters against backups. And the Bengals are bottom ten. So there's no way the Bra- and, and you could say, well, they got Jim Schwartz. Well, listen, you could- you wanna blame Luan Arumo for this year? Fine.


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[Assistant] But until this year, he's been considered one of the best defensive coordinators of the league.


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[Assistant] We can't get crazy. Jim Schwartz is as good if not better than any defensive coordinator in the league. And the Browns' backup talent, especially on the D-line and in the secondary, is solid.


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[Assistant] But, you know, linebackers would be trash. And...


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[Assistant] It's just backups, you know, I mean, you gotta be realistic. It would be, if you ask me this about almost any other team, I'd say it would be clearly the worst in football. With the Browns, I'll say, or maybe they're the fifth worst or the sixth worst or whatever.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Exactly. But think about this specific example. The Browns have completely had the Bengals number since Kevin Stavansky's been here.


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[Assistant] To me, the two biggest reasons for that are Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. Because Miles Garrett is wreak havoc against the Bengals. And Denzel Ward is one of the few corners that does a great job against Jamar Chase. If you didn't have just those two guys.


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[Assistant] I think Ford Hunt, Godwin Moore, the starting guards, the starting center. I don't think any of those guys play, but Ogbo's not going to play obviously.


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[Assistant] I think the headline of the list is completely misleading.


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[Assistant] Uh, because they're just, every player's voting on their own guy and how much they like them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and also, like Mike said, I mean, maybe those guys all got 10s for every player, and Jimmy Schwartz got a 9 from one guy. You know, like, it could be as simple as that.


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[Assistant] You know, it's amazing. I was just looking at the stats from that playoff game in 2002, and obviously Kelly Holcomb threw for a ton of yardage in that game. But the running game, William Green carried 25 times for 30 yards.


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[Assistant] That the Browns played a playoff game in front of fans, because the only time you've been to the playoffs since then, 2020, and obviously it was COVID, so like, fans are not used to this. The Browns haven't played a playoff game in front of fans in over two decades, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] It's, it's used a lot less, I feel like, than when we were younger. Bernie said that yesterday. You know, I feel like it's not, it's kind of, for some guys it's a lost art.


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[Assistant] And between suspensions and injuries, it's played a role. I mean, he's never been, he hasn't really played consistently enough for it to work at this point.


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[Assistant] By the way, we don't want to go down this road again because it was a big argument yesterday, but we actually argued, Jay argued Baker and I argued Matthew Stafford over both.


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[Assistant] the defense of MVP with a hundred percent certainty, I could say that if the roles were reversed and Myles Garrett had the sacks and TJ Watt or


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[Assistant] You know, we've, uh, we've often, on this show and other media members, have been critical of Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski at times.


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[Assistant] For being too patient with some players. Like, get rid of Anthony Schwartz, get rid of this guy. But the reality is, it's good to be patient in most cases. They weren't with Cade York, which worked out. But generally, like, if you draft a guy, you believe in him. If you give up on him too quick, what does that say about you?


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[Assistant] And Mike, you say he only had 12 last year and he has 19 this year. My guess, I obviously could be wrong, is he took a lot more snaps last year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he's been really impressive. He's a guy that right now is passing the PFF test and the eye test. You're right, yeaah.


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[Assistant] By the way, I feel like G kinda looks a little like Sylvester Stallone in Rocky. No, that wasn't it.


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[Assistant] I got no concern. I think he's washed as bad as their offensive line. His reach has been really good. Brown's offensive line has not been good run blocking. If you look at his stats when, when runs are blocked perfectly, he's one of the worst running backs in the league. He was already in decline last year.


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[Assistant] An absolutely dominating effort, guys. Special teams was a disaster. That's the only thing the Texans did when the game was in doubt was the kick return and then obviously both the punter and kicker got hurt, which are concerns going forward.


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[Assistant] But offensively and defensively, at least when the first team defense was in, an absolute ass kicking by the Browns, the Texans could not move the ball at all on the starting defense at all. They did nothing.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just the new Montana to rice. What are we thinking here guys? It's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Broke the re- Brown's record for most passing yards in the first four starts of the Brown's career with 13-07. By the way, the guy he broke the record from was another ancient quarterback, Josh McCown, back in 2015, so.


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[Assistant] I mean, you guys, you talked about he hasn't played well since leaving the Ravens. He really hasn't played well since they won that Super Bowl over a decade ago.


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[Assistant] And then he was a journeyman who bounced around late in his career. He got a couple of good games here and there. But no, since they won the Super Bowl over a decade ago, this guy who, who was, we keep saying on the couch, I'll say in his garage to change it up.


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[Assistant] I mean you can't ask for more. Yeah, he's had a decent amount of turnovers.


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[Assistant] But outside of the big one against, in his first game against the Rams, right? That was against the Rams. Outside of that one, they haven't cost a team, you know, they certainly haven't cost them a win. Now they would, they were. It cost them 14 points last week. Yea, it did, but, but, but guys, the thing is,


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[Assistant] You can live, it feels like they got Brett Favre in his prime right now, or Josh Allen in a way, without the running part. It's like, okay, you know that turnover's a part of the deal. He's gonna have him. And the two he had yesterday didn't really matter. They were deep passes down the field, and one was at the end of the first half. They didn't really matter.


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[Assistant] That could have thought he would play this well, been this dynamic.


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[Assistant] He is, the good has so far outweighed the bad of the turnovers. It's been, uh, yeah, you're right. You run out of words because it's, it feels like we're, we're in a dream world right now because how could this be happening? How could this team, how could this team with the most turnovers in the NFL, the most?


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[Assistant] By the way, the last team to make the playoffs, I don't know if you guys heard this stat during the game, but the last team to make the playoffs with the most turnovers in the NFL was Peyton Manning in that last year with the Broncos and they won the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] To follow up, I just want to follow up on what Jason said there because he's right on the money. First of all, Stefanski has just been.


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[Assistant] Another planet. There was zero debate. I don't care if he wins Coach of the Year, really. It doesn't matter. He's the Coach of the Year. There's no doubt about it. He's been the best coach in the NFL this year. It's remarkable what he's done. But two things on the Cooper-Joe connection.


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[Assistant] G. Bush used to always complain, I remember number one, so I'll get back to number one after, but G. Bush used to always complain that the Browns' quarterbacks, and he complained about this a lot, and he was right with, with, with Baker throwing to O'Dell or whatever, he's like, we never just throw it to our best guy constantly, get him the ball, get him the ball, get him the ball.


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[Assistant] And Joe Flacco does that. He's like, okay, I have now figured out, clearly, it took maybe a week. Uh, Amari Cooper's my best guy. It's not close. He's by far the best pass catcher on this team. So I'm going to get him the ball. And number two, the second part of that is Amari is always open.


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[Assistant] Because, and we'll get more into Amari Cooper later and some of the specifics with him, but uh, yeaah, I mean he is just, you're right, he's just peppering him like crazy because he knows that Amari Cooper's gonna come through almost all the time.


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[Assistant] Which Stefanski, he, he, he has realized quickly.


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[Assistant] With, since Joe's been here, like, I think most coaches in this situation,


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[Assistant] Starting Joe Flacco would have said, we're going to run the ball. Even if we struggle to run, we're going to keep running the ball. He's 38 years old. We can't make him pass that much. And


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[Assistant] And, and especially when the turnovers start to happen, alright, we gotta get conservative.


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[Assistant] There had to be a part of Kevin, because I know there was a part of me. Nobody wants to see Dustin Hopkins hurt, nobody wants to see Borges hurt. Obviously we need those guys.


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[Assistant] You know, now even when he played great, like I was never a big flaco guy. I always thought he was just okay. And he played great in that postseason run. He was phenomenal. All time great. Maybe, maybe the best run by a quarterback ever. Certainly one of the top five runs by a quarterback in the postseason. And here in Cleveland, it's the complete opposite.


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[Assistant] Even if you were a Watson supporter, as you said, Jason, even if you were on that side of the fence, there still was this feeling that everybody hates your quarterback because of what happened.


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[Assistant] And now, as you said earlier, Joe Flacco is the best story in the NFL. The Browns are the best story in the NFL. Everybody's lovey dovey with the Browns now. And you want that. You could say you don't, you could say you don't mind being hated. Nobody likes being hated. The Browns were hated. Now they're loved. And Joe Flacco is feeling that love from the fans.


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[Assistant] And he's feeling appreciated at 38 years old, maybe more than he ever has.


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[Assistant] I'm sure he was appreciated by his teammates and his coaches, but I don't think, I don't think he's ever, maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think he was ever appreciated by Ravens fans as much as he's appreciated by Browns fans right now.


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[Assistant] One second, I gotta ask one other question before we go to defense. Joe Thomas tweeted yesterday,


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[Assistant] If Joe Flacco wins a Super Bowl with the Browns, does he go in the Hall of Fame? Now, I never thought of Joe Flacco as a Hall of Famer at all. And I, but, but if you win two Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] Bad job in the fourth quarter. You don't want to see a situation that happened where the starting defense had to come in again to put the game away. Cause there's no excuse for that. The Texans were a mess. And the second team defense, which, you know, with all the injuries, obviously the defense hasn't been crushed as much as the offense by injuries.


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[Assistant] The second team defense is kind of like a third team defense in a way compared to most teams. It was bad and I was nervous when Zedarius Smith got hurt. Apparently he was fine because he was celebrating after the game and he was fine because he had his best game of the year. Absolutely. But so that was a slight negative. Uhm, but you know, they were up like 29 points, whatever it was.


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[Assistant] I don't want to get too worked up about it. I don't care. It's hard to maintain focus in that situation.


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[Assistant] Jason, the only reason I care, the only reason I care is because the Browns felt like they had to put their starters back in. That was the only reason I cared.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I thought Hickman played very well. I thought a guy, you mentioned a lot of guys. Another guy I thought played extremely well was Shione Takitake. I think he led the team in tackles.


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[Assistant] I mean, he made a lot of plays in this game and you're right. I mean, think about this guys. You have your top three safeties are out. You wouldn't know it the way the fourth, fifth and sixth safeties have played. I mean, you really wouldn't know it. The Texans did nothing.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the passing game, there was not, there was really not a play ever where I was like, oh, well, if you had Grant Delpitt or Juan Thornhill, you would have been in better shape. And think about it, Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward are still not right. Now, I don't know where they're going to be physically by the time we get to the playoffs. Hopefully they'll be closer to 100%.


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[Assistant] And Denver, thank you. Where it felt like the defense was kinda coming apart a little bit, right? Other guys, you know, Miles was banged up, Ward was banged up, and other guys weren't stepping up. Well, since those two games...


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[Assistant] It's not just that Miles is getting healthier and that Denzel's back, it's also that other guys have really stepped up. Zidarius, Dalvin Tomlinson, they're both playing their best.


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[Assistant] Tier guys, if you will, not second tier, but yeah, in the grand scheme of like, you know, Denzel and Miles are my top tier players and now my tier two players.


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[Assistant] Those guys are playing closer to tier 1 players lately and it's been really fun to see.


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[Assistant] I wasn't totally buying that there was something more to it. Obviously it's an advantage or at least not to the point of the massive differential.


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[Assistant] And, and we'll get to it more later in the pot, later in the show. But, uh, if the Ravens lose tonight to the Niners.


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[Assistant] I mean Hopkins has been, the kicker, listen, they could find another punter.


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[Assistant] There's not the pressure on the punter that there is on the kicker. And this guy has been, you know, one of the top three kickers in the league. He's been as good as anybody. And so he's been absolute lights out from 50 plus.


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[Assistant] Either way, like that's an injury that doesn't usually heal quickly.


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[Assistant] Uh, able to potentially play in the playoffs, like you might have to have two kickers on the roster just in case if he's not 100%.


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[Assistant] I know he just announced his retirement like a week or two ago, but I'm like...


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[Assistant] He was my guy before the season. I was like, well, it's gotta be Robbie Gould. And then it turned out this guy was the right call without a doubt. Dustin Hopkins been phenomenal. I would think he'd be the guy. I mean, I want a guy who's made playoff kicks and been good in the playoffs. And he has been, he's kicked in big games. I don't want.


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[Assistant] We can't just go with some unknown, you know, young kicker.


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[Assistant] No, I think technically he's on the Giants roster, isn't he? He got hurt. Even though he's not playing. Oh, he got hurt, yea. Oh, he's hurt? Well, no, they certainly were not going to bring him back anyway, but, uh.


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[Assistant] But, I feel like you have to go get a veteran, unless you're confident Hopkins is going to be back for the playoffs, then okay, if you want to bring in a young guy for two weeks to finish the season, okay, I can live with that, but if you're unsure at all,


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[Assistant] You have to bring in that veteran now so he can get...


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[Assistant] You know, not in shape, but get some rhythm and use of the operation going into the playoffs. But hopefully this won't cost them because in offensive defense, they finally stayed healthy in a game for once and now they lose their kicker.


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[Assistant] I'm not concerned, uh, any more than I was coming into the game. The onside kick is a freak thing. The kick return, they did a really poor job on that. I don't even think they touched him on that kick return. But again, that's a freak thing too. Overall, they haven't done a bad job there.


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[Assistant] So no, I'm not, I'm not really concerned about it. One other thing guys, I was looking, I was trying to find some free agent kickers.


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[Assistant] I think I found if you're not gonna go, if you're not gonna get, uh, Robbie Gould out of retirement, the guy might be Ryan Suckup. I remember him. Remember him?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I remember him. He was, he kicked also, he kicked, now, he did not have a, last year, he hasn't played this year, last year he had his, he only made 82% of his field goals, I guess that's not that bad.


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[Assistant] And that's not that long ago. So he has played, he's kicked in big games. So I would think Robbie Gould and Ryan Suckup are probably the two best options for that.


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[Assistant] I do think, I think the reason there was no drama, Jason, is because of Amari Cooper. You're probably right. Because he, I mean, first of all,


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[Assistant] We've seen players make great catches, right? We go back to, you know, Odell Beckham. We go back to T Higgins a few weeks ago, made that unbelievable play at the goal line. But this guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I heard Earl say on the post game show yesterday, he's underrated. I don't think Amari Cooper is underrated. I think he is. Everybody knows how good this guy is. But I think there's an aspect of his game that just, it's something that people don't really talk about. And he is absolutely, in my opinion, as good as any player I've ever seen. And that's body control. He, you see receivers all the time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a play at the sidelines. You think a guy makes the catch, but he has a toe out of bounds.


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[Assistant] That catch you talked about, Jason, that was one of the greatest catches you've ever seen?


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[Assistant] And not only did he get two feet in, if you look at it real closely, he actually got three feet in. He went one, two, one. I mean, it was, I don't know that there's more than...


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[Assistant] Many guys that could do that, and he does it every time. How many times? We've seen it two weeks in a row.


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[Assistant] Where Amari Cooper is going down the sidelines after catching the ball. He looks like he's losing his balance. Maybe he's going to get pushed out of bounds and he writes the ship and he's able to get into the end zone. He's done that two weeks in a row on plays where a lot of guys would have gone out of bounds or been knocked out of bounds. His body control on the sideline in the field, in the end zone is


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[Assistant] He's wide open for a pass and he steps out of bounds before catching it. And it's like...


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[Assistant] And you see these things all the time and you don't really think about it, but Amari Cooper is just super elite when it comes to that. He is.


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[Assistant] Uh, just a total professional. I mean, it's like he and Nick Job are.


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[Assistant] That was phenomenal. I think this is the best performance. I mean, Josh Gordon, 10 years ago, had some performances that were amazing. And he's, he was just a freak of nature. But, but, those games didn't


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[Assistant] Yeah, you are a little crazy. By the way, let me give you another stat. Let me give you another stat on Amari Cooper here. So Amari Cooper coming into the game today.


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[Assistant] His season, which we had 985 yards coming into the game. Believe it or not, that, that he already was, that was the 16th best.


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[Assistant] Season in Brown's history in terms of receiving yards, 985.


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[Assistant] After today's game, remember, he was 16th on the Browns coming into the game. Where is he on the all-time Browns receiving yards in a season list after the game?


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[Assistant] The Browns have never, besides Josh Gordon, have never had a 1300 yard receiving season. And he is definitely going to get that. He's a 1250 right now.


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[Assistant] Six catches for 44 yards and a touchdown. And when I was doing my podcast yesterday, I was like, he had a good game, but not a special game. I'm like, before this year, even early this year, we would have been like, great game for David Njoku. Now six for 44 and a touchdown for Njoku is just a good game.


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[Assistant] By the way, Mike, you said no offense to Deshaun Watson, but let's be honest, you asked a question on the show a couple of weeks ago.


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[Assistant] You know, would you rather have Nick Chubb or Deshaun Watson back? We'll get to the Nick Chubb angle of this in a minute. But forget Nick Chubb versus Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] You'd stick 100%, there's no chance you'd won. There's, there's nobody, if they're being honest, there's going to be some people that would, would get mad at me for saying this, and there's going to be some people that are going to pretend that they would. But there is no way on earth you would rather have Deshaun Watson right now than Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] And the further, the better, the, the, if he, Joe Flacco continues to play well, and if the Browns go deep in every round they win, it gets ratcheted up another notch. But again, off-season conversation.


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[Assistant] Guys, you know how many times Joe Flacco was sacked in this game?


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[Assistant] You're correct. The answer is zero. So if the offensive line was such a problem. Right.


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[Assistant] They were outstanding the offensive line in the passing game. And obviously they're not as a unit as good in the run defense.


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[Assistant] Last week, I'm in the runoff, uh, the run blocking.


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[Assistant] Last week, you could have blamed the offensive line a lot for it. This week, Jason, you're 100% right. You and I have been consistent on this all year. The Browns have not had a running game since Nick Chubb went down. Obviously, Ford's had his moments earlier in the season, but that he is completely cratered. Some of it's on the old line. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] God, if this, if this team had Nick Chubb, oh, just Nick Chubb. I'm not asking for anybody else. Just Nick Chubb on this team. As you said, Jason, they tried to run. I mean, they didn't, they didn't completely go to the pass. Their running backs were terrible in this game. I thought Pierre Strong had a couple of decent runs.


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[Assistant] But Jerome Ford, remember he had that one first down run where he got 10 yards? Yep.


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[Assistant] That, so he had that one run for 10 yards, his other 14 carries, he had 15 yards.


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[Assistant] They're coming. The Bills are coming. Who's playing great defense in the AFC besides the Browns? Probably just the Browns. Baltimore's playing pretty well on defense. But here's the thing. I hear people say this all the time. Why do they fall for play action if the team can't run? That's the most over- the play action


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[Assistant] Teams fall for it because the fake is good. Not because they're, because, because if you think it's going to be a run, you're going after the running back, whether the running game has been successful or not. And Joe Flacco is great.


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[Assistant] That's the key. It's not about how good the running back is. It's about how good the quarterback is at convincing those players because they don't have to be fooled.


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[Assistant] And maybe we'll worry about it against Baltimore because their defense is really good if the Browns play them in the playoffs. But the Jets have a good defense, but it's not that good.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they gagged against Washington and Jacoby Brissette, and now they did end up kicking a game winning field goal, okay, but then they're playing the Bengals without DJ Reader, the Bengals have no run defense at all, so.


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[Assistant] They have to commit their linebackers to stopping the run and that's going to be, Bengals are easily fooled on play action. The Browns will take advantage of that.


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[Assistant] And then most likely in the first round of the playoffs, if the Browns are the five seed, which they're going to be, if they don't win the division, they're going to play the AFC South winner. None of those teams are that good. No, no. Obviously see, you know, the Texans with CJ Stroud are a better team, but it's not like their defense is that good. We just saw it here. I know it's banged up, but still like.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, the Browns are, let's, like, we, we would kind of bust it, wait, not kind of. I was busting Earls Balls when he said they'd go 5-0 to end the season.


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[Assistant] The thing about that Bengals game is, if the Ravens lose tonight to San Francisco, then, and if the Ravens lose tonight, and the Browns beat the Jets,


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[Assistant] Even if the Braw, even if the Ravens, I think the Ravens play Miami, is it Miami and then Pittsburgh? Yeah, I think they play Miami next week. Even if.


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[Assistant] Miami loses. Let's say the Ravens lose to San Francisco but beat Miami.


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[Assistant] If the Browns win their next two games, then they will still be alive for the division going into the last week, because if the Browns beat the Bengals and the Ravens lose to the Steelers, the Browns would have the tiebreaker. They'd finish tied and the Browns would have the tiebreaker in that scenario.


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[Assistant] Obviously if the Ravens beat the Niners, then the Divisions out the window. And then you're likely to be in that scenario where the Browns are locked into the five seed, have nothing to play for against the Bengals, and maybe lose the game.


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[Assistant] It would be a pretty significant upset in my mind if the Browns lost either of these games, you know, assuming they're playing for something, which means they're very likely to finish 12 and 5, which would only be their second 12 win season since they've joined the NFL.


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[Assistant] And that's great. You know, they had when they were in the AAFC or whatever the hell it was before they were in the NFL. But Bernie Kozart went 12-4 in 86 and that's it. The only other time the Browns have won 12 games. What would be crazy is they could


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[Assistant] This is not unlikely at all. The Browns could win 12 games, have the 2nd or 3rd best record in the AFC, but ultimately have the 15th.


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[Assistant] Nobody else has got more than eight wins, right? Of the other, oh no, Buffalo's got nine, sorry. Buffalo's got nine. But, you know, the Browns are unlikely to play Buffalo.


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[Assistant] You know, listen, if they can't win the division, I would sit everybody against the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright. Mike, one thing we do know for sure, if the Browns beat the Jets, they clinch a playoff spot. Right now, they have a 99% chance to make the playoffs, but they are not officially clinched, no matter what happens, uh, until they play Thursday. But if they beat the Jets, they officially clinch.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Merry Christmas to everybody, uh, enjoy the holidays, enjoy this week. We will be with you every day this week. We don't take a break for the holidays. We'll be off Monday of New Year's Day, but...


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[Assistant] It will put something up. Plus also, as you said, the game's on Thursday. So normally on a Monday, we would be...


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[Assistant] Doing a show because we're recapping a game, but because...


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[Assistant] Great win for the Browns. This is, this is as much fun as I've had covering the Browns in the 13 years I've been covering the team.


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[Assistant] Y'all, y'all, y'all is trippin'. Like everybody messes that up. You know, there are school children that have to put their dates on paper. Your son does it every day.


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[Assistant] Your house will be seized! Hold on, hold on. When you first buy a house, there's a healthy fear of being like...


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[Assistant] This is, this is the craziest analogy of all time and hopefully this will shut this down. Use this argument against anyone who says there's a reason for he's on the market.


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[Assistant] All of us have significant others. I'm pretty sure we're not the first person we've ever saw our significant others in the world. They've been out here. Maybe they've had boyfriends. Maybe they haven't. Maybe they've been married before.


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[Assistant] If she was so great, somebody else would have got her, right? No. Maybe you just got lucky.


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[Assistant] Maybe you saw something in her that these other idiots did not see. And when we talk about sports, we always say, somebody else, maybe they were right. They would have kept him. No. Intelligence is not really big in our country.


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[Assistant] Like, everybody ain't smart. Matter of fact, it might be 3% of the people that really have some sort of common sense. A lot of times this kind of stuff comes down to


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[Assistant] Opportunity, motive, and what this guy still has left. A lot of times we look at what the guy has left and forget about the opportunity and the motive. If you get Dalvin Cook in here,


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[Assistant] I didn't get here by being stagnant. If we wasn't, if we didn't go look at Joe Flacco, if we didn't bring back Kareem Hunt, if we wasn't, if we wasn't going out- Dustin Hopkins. Dustin Hopkins. If we were not aggressive on just those three positions, you sitting here talking about the draft.


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[Assistant] Well, there's a thing that we call self-scouting.


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[Assistant] Uh, sometimes teams are just bad at self-scouting. Like they, like, have you ever noticed, you know, that you keep tracking out the same guys and they keep giving them opportunity, opportunity, opportunity. You're like, what are they seeing this guy? I don't, where do you see it? And then there's some guys that, you know, Tyvis could tell you,


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[Assistant] There's some guys that bust their tail in practice, make plays in practice, make big time plays, do everything the coach wants them to do, and then guess what? They don't get any runs. No plays.


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[Assistant] Because you know when it gets real, Jay, if you win the first round, and I'm not fast forward nothing, don't tell me that I'm not looking past whoever, come out of the South. But if you win that game, it's all hands on deck after that.


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[Assistant] Because now it get real. Now it's like, okay, well I don't care if you've been here all year, I'm playing the best people to give me a chance to win. And that gives them a couple weeks to ramp up, see what they got, and who knows?


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[Assistant] Bro. So, so this is. He's weighing 32 for just now too. Watch this move. Watch. No. Watch what he does here. Damn. No, the most oppressive is his speed cut coming up here in a minute. After he throws this guy off. I know this guy. I watch. Oh my God. Watch this speed cut right here. Ah! Get up, Phil Thomas. You see that?


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[Assistant] There's really a vague, uh, there's really no title for it. It's just one of those things where it's like, listen, we didn't give out all these awards. He came, he passed a little bit, but he's not smart and his parents want to clap for him. Citizenship award. Now when you get that, that's Philip Walker.


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[Assistant] Phil, hey, citizenship, dawg. You came through, you did your thing in a Randy Jackson voice. Yea, you did your thing. I thought you was a little choppy at the beginning. Little pitchy. Little yea, right. So now, look, dress could come in, everybody has been elevated over P.J. Wall. Woah, woah.


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[Assistant] I mean, I didn't watch Austin Davis. I didn't see Connor Shaw. Chuckie Fry. Oh my gosh. But here's the thing, you know, I'm starting to believe, I don't, you know, we'll talk about later on a little foreshadowing.


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[Assistant] These other quarterbacks be playing like, all every single game. You know, far played for like, every game.


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, you come- No, no, no. And AB is a great ass. Some of us are- I mean, but you come from- I told you, you had six games, right?


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[Assistant] And not only did you get them six games and you kept going.


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[Assistant] With, with a guy that we've changed his nickname. We've stripped him of all titles and land.


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[Assistant] This, uh, I mean, when you get to a point, and just throw this out there too, Kevin Stefanski single-handedly took the Cleveland Browns from being a team


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[Assistant] Everybody in the national media hate it. Everybody.


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[Assistant] Half of the local media didn't like the roster, didn't like him because of what Deshaun Watson was and the distractions and all of the perceived dumpster fires. He took a team with no quarterback.


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[Assistant] A dude off the street, a rookie, uh, Deshaun Watson, and he ran 35 different playbooks. He lost his best player. They run him, they got run him back by committee.


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[Assistant] And he went from one of the, one of the, one of the worst stories to THE.


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[Assistant] Best story. Not only is it the best story.


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[Assistant] But they're playing in the best division in football, and they've already clinched their, like,


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[Assistant] It's no way, like when you talk about it, there's half of our population that was like, Stefanski gotta go. He did so well, I had to say, listen,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna accept you for who you are, just like a partner.


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[Assistant] Sometimes you have some shortcomings. I can't be talking about your plays from, from play to play down to down. That's not what you can be critical of any coach if you do that. You have to be macro in that. But you gotta, you gotta keep it 100. And what creditors do is he did it and he did it at a high level.


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[Assistant] That's because he had a long way to go. If you look at his numbers...


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[Assistant] Yeah, there is. Jack Conklin.


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[Assistant] His dudes play hard for him, man. Like, it don't matter at this point who they throwing out there. They be playing hard. They love him. And he manages adversity as well as anyone. Look what he did in COVID.


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[Assistant] That's a bad job of me. I helped you guys. You gave me the assist. I ran across that stat when they was talking about how they just got Brownie on this illegal deal. Like apparently the Bengals have his rights for like every like for like five more years because he's been back and forth from practice squad.


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[Assistant] Well, if you know it, don't say it out loud. It's tough because I'm trying to think back then, uhm, I know it's top 5.


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[Assistant] I'ma go with Steven A. Smith's voice and say, you guys should never talk basketball.


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[Assistant] These guys ain't out here playing no ball. They don't, what are you talking about better without them? Like, just cause you get these little minimal ski wins against these mid-bottom, mid-tier bottom feeder teams. Donovan Mitchell's second team, all NBA. At the end of the day, we need to really examine and say, all right, who's better? Like, because they're the same player, right?


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[Assistant] You go back and you have to ask yourself, who's better, Darius Garland or Donovan Mitchell?


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[Assistant] You're just my college girlfriend. Or ooh. This ain't long term.


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[Assistant] We've all been in a relationship where we've loved before. We've loved the Cavs. We saw what the Cavs were when they were playing the Warriors. We saw Kyrie being the master. We saw the three point shooting. We obviously had the best player in the world.


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[Assistant] So you know what it looked like when you were a contender. We know this, ain't it? This is Wesley Person.


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[Assistant] This is old Sean Kemp. This is, this is, this is, uh, no disrespect. This is Brevin Knight.


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[Assistant] This ain't it. So no, they're not better without them. They got a roster problem, they got a coach problem, they got a development problem, and the two goo-goos they brought in here. I know you should boy Nyang. Nyang is big as me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a, there's a, there, there, in basketball, you gotta have delusional confidence about what you are.


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[Assistant] And you gotta be, and Darius Garland to me, he got that big deal, and I'm not knocking him. I think he's a nice player, but I think we overestimate how good he is. If you were to, if you were to sit there and list.


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[Assistant] He's a tier 2 guy. And the problem with Evan Mobley is, the problem with Mobley is, he went from a tier 1 defender


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[Assistant] I think when you get to a level of basketball, there's a level where somebody can take you. There's a difference between being a starter.


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[Assistant] And getting guys to play hard and teach them progress and momentum until you get to that, that ceiling. And now you need a different voice. You need a different strategy. You need a different guy that's going to come in and say, Hey Ty Loo, come on in here. David Black. That was nice.


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[Assistant] And, and, and, and, we all, I think we, we don't, we didn't correlate it to, to the Deshaun Watson thing with the Cavs, right? Because we look at it like, okay, well the Cavs have...


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[Assistant] You know, the cabs are good, cool. We all know it's a browns town. The problem is, when Deshaun Watson got here,


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[Assistant] Everybody's expectations, we was cut dry, we knew what it was. When Donovan Mitchell got here,


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[Assistant] Like, so I can't wait to see, like, because the last time we went to the playoffs, you went a lot out of your house.


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[Assistant] I was supposed to, I was supposed to go out there. Oh, why didn't you go? Cause I just had knee surgery.


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[Assistant] Meniscus, they had to cut some meniscus off both sides and I had a cyst on my knee. Whoa. How did that turn out? Okay.


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[Assistant] I mean, I had it, uhm, the Thursday before Christmas.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, you still can't get here for real.


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[Assistant] And, and I would, I would love, like I tell people all the time, there's nothing more terrifying than leaving college and one of your first assignments is to block LT. Okay? Ain't no LT's on that field.


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[Assistant] Uh, okay, like that looks great with, you know, you got a little mouthpiece in, a little angry mouthpiece and all that and listen.


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[Assistant] Somebody would concuss him within the first five minutes of the game, cause he ain't never been it like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, congratulations Leroy. I'ma say this.


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[Assistant] There's nobody who was more shocked at the way that defense played.


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[Assistant] I mean, have you ever seen a Alabama offensive line?


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[Assistant] Look, that big and slow. You're exactly right. And so I was shocked. And I was also shocked that


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[Assistant] All they had to do was put four guys on one side and then bring a safety down, and they acted like that safety didn't exist.


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[Assistant] And guess what? So, I don't know what kind of game plan that was. I was really impressed with the fact of the way they contained Melrose.


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[Assistant] He is one of the fastest guys on the field and he's made plays with his feet and they kind of eliminated that because they had enough speed to get to him before he could get free.


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[Assistant] Alabama is still Alabama and it went into overtime.


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[Assistant] Here's the most incredible thing and we all look at sports differently and I'm looking at the dumb wire receiver that block a dude.


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[Assistant] Right in the back. And then I'm thinking to myself, how often does a player


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[Assistant] That's a hard thing to do, cause you jumpin'.


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[Assistant] Whoo, so that was a hell of a play. Uh, and then the play on the goal line was just a hell of a design. I mean that was, that was something special right there.


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[Assistant] No. No. Like you were in a tight, you were in a tight run situation, so I assumed that they were gonna roll him out. Right. To do the opposite of what you look like.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And they got all those blockers in there and then dropped back and then random and then the other thing was the thing about Melrose was he got very impatient.


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[Assistant] So you know normally quarterbacks that run these draws, they'll give a couple of little pats of the ball and then go. Right. He was going like a running back and he ain't let nothing clear out at all.


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[Assistant] It's hard to tell with running backs in college sometimes.


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[Assistant] Aspect of a running back and like he'll go to the combine, he'll be strong, he'll run whatever he runs. But the most important thing about a running back is his ability to see in his explosiveness. Right? So one of the bigs, the biggest misnomers about running back is


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[Assistant] When people say, oh, he has the ability to take it to the house. Any play could go to the house. Well, guess what? That don't happen that damn much, but you know what does happen?


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[Assistant] You could have really fast guys that have the ability to take you to the house at any time, and they can't never get no pa-feet.


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[Assistant] And with that defense, and with that, you know, that's a Jim Harbaugh soft landing area.


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[Assistant] Here's uh, you guys are looking at the wrong things. Let me tell you what. When they announce this, then I start worrying. Uh, Jim Harbaugh has signed an agent.


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[Assistant] You changed ages. You changed ages. You changed ages. And you're absolutely right. Yea, right.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, they took away Reggie Bush as Heisman, they penalized the youth at USC, and Pete Carroll went and made 6-7 million in Seattle.


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[Assistant] We, we making, we making assumptions about how much Dow and Cook can help. Imma tell you the only difference between Dow and Cook and uh, Ford.


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[Assistant] Davencook is a veteran and is more patient running the football, right? And that's the things that I talk about that Jerome Ford needs to get to, uhm, you know, to, to, to become more complete.


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[Assistant] You know, you had to move around some wide receivers, they still play well. Right? You got running backs, you're moving in and out. That's okay. Right? You're a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Goodness, I like it. That's something that I don't think anybody expected, but it's working out.


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[Assistant] You wanna add another variable?


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[Assistant] Because if you can scratch off and I scratch it off, there's no harm, no foul.


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[Assistant] If you try to incorporate a dude in your offense. You're not.


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[Assistant] Hey, you just want it to happen, so you're just trying to find ways where to make it okay. No, the rea- I don't- listen. In truth, I don't want-


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[Assistant] It's not the harm, it's the timing of it.


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[Assistant] Okay, you're in week 18. Like I said, this was five weeks ago, right?


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[Assistant] Then yeaah, you could kind of work him into it and be, he'd be ready for this moment. But to then come in and say, okay, it's already Wednesday.


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[Assistant] It, it looks like, listen, eh, think of it like this. As a running back, you got one burst, right? And you have to time it up when you use it. If you use it up at the wrong time, you're just gonna run in the back of people, right? Uhm, and I think he was a little more patient with that. He looked, and what, what's crazy about it is, when you're patient with it, it looks like you're even more explosive, right?


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[Assistant] And I think as you, as you are around other veterans, as you get tired of running to the back of the office alignment, as you get tired of, you know, they're probably preaching it to them. Hey, what are you seeing? What are you seeing? Patience, patience, patience. Now use your skill.


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[Assistant] I had it right away for this reason. I had a unique situation that I played one yard from the quarterback in my college career.


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[Assistant] And so all my decisions had to come quick. So when I backed up to seven yards.


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[Assistant] I was already patient because I had more room to operate.


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[Assistant] And so I never, it was always a blessing in disguise.


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[Assistant] That yeah, I'm playing a yard behind a quarterback and running these plays inside, but I still had the vision to be able to make quick moves from a yard out. So when I backed up, I was like, wow, this is great.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, maybe a thousand bucks maybe? Okay.


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[Assistant] For the, for the thousand dollars of the, that would be 500 people.


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[Assistant] Well, what if they lost next week? If they lost Joku, Miles, Flacco, Cooper.


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[Assistant] Great sport because we reached out to him and said, Charles, you gotta come on and defend, defend yourself. And Charles, you immediately said what?


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[Assistant] Charles, let me ask you a question that's in the same vein, but Gronk came out and said, not a quarterback this year. There's just not one in his view that has risen.


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[Assistant] You do a terrific job. Thanks for taking time for us. And happy holidays.


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[Assistant] They're still in the running for the 1. True. If they make the playoffs, it won't hurt them. In, you know, he brought up the case of McCaffrey going 1,000.


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[Assistant] What it drove home for me last night, watching the game with him on the sidelines, that Miami offense, I'm sorry, even with all the pieces and parts, they were pedestrian. They could not


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[Assistant] I've had guys tell me the efficiency is one of the worst metrics you can look at. And I've also had offensive guys tell me that the QBR is a joke.


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[Assistant] I thought I, I had given, I just did my count as the game was going on.


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[Assistant] I don't think anyone has done that as well as Bill Belichick has done that in his career.


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[Assistant] He did that well with guys like Mike Vrabel. He did that with guys in the secondary that he would then flip over to wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I was talking with Jim Donovan yesterday about how this team, all the drops, all, you know, just the problems that we've seen with wide receivers.


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[Assistant] The catch that Martin Emerson made on the interception. Which one? The one where he had to dive, he left his feet.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, we talked earlier in the show about the attrition that this roster has suffered due to injuries. And Charles Davis was on the program. He said, look, that's the NFL. It's a gladiator sport. Injuries are the way of the league. And I understand that.


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[Assistant] I can't remember a season where there have been this many injuries, particularly the key positions, but I'm gonna lean on your Hall of Fame experience here. You've been covering this team for decades. Can you remember a time when the roster suffered this much injury attrition?


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[Assistant] And we also talked about the tipping point, like is there a point where they just all become too much and there's one straw that just sort of breaks the whole team's back and they start succumbing to the opponent because of all the injuries.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, looking forward, obviously everybody's playing the schedule game. That can be a dangerous game to play.


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[Assistant] The logjam in the AFC to think that we're four games left and there are 11 of the 16 teams that are over 500.


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[Assistant] I can't ever remember where it went that deep. As you start handicapping who these wild card spots are.


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[Assistant] Well, I was shocked this was even a question. I, I want to see if someone goes the other way.


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[Assistant] He's gotta feel that pressure. And it was, and oftentimes this is the case with a strip set by a quarterback. It was a millisecond


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[Assistant] And even with their 30th So I don't think we can t those numbers out. Joe, not going to do that th All that being said was w of work from Watson. We h of work from Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Jed would be the odd man out. I would put Dewan Jones at the left.


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[Assistant] He looked better because he would look so miserably terrible early to start the season and I can't forget about that. He can still be that guy.


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[Assistant] One out of every five at bats, you gotta come up with a base hit.