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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't have a problem with that, but from a locker room standpoint, are people gonna have an issue if he's a unique individual like that? And more power to him, in all honesty, but like...


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[Assistant] Just visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to shoot your shot. FanDuel, the official sports book partner of the NBA. And we do actually have a winning ticket today from Lamont, no Stanford. I hope I'm saying that right.


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[Assistant] With the Florida Moneyline, Duke, minus twenty and a half, Marquette, minus eleven and a half, Tennessee Moneyline, Iowa State Moneyline, South Carolina, plus five and a half.


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[Assistant] Alabama Moneyline, Minnesota, plus 11 and a half, and Arizona Moneyline turned $10 into $460. So if you guys have a winning FanDuel ticket, make sure you send them to Mikey or myself. It's great. We'll get it up there and we'll give you the credit you deserve.


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[Assistant] Mike, you're talking about learning a lot about the Cavs, and I think you have some questions you want answered, and in the way we're gonna do this is gonna look at the ESPN NBA tiers that came out for their playoff teams.


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[Assistant] So you can catch Ultimate 216 premiering at 5 o'clock on the YouTube channel. All here on UCSS. Go check out Earl's 216. It's sports, culture, everything in between, and he does a great job doing it.


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[Assistant] Alright, so guys, we're gonna get into football here and to drag us into football, I wanted to do the NFL ESPN tiers because they both came out within like a week of each other. So we're gonna start that off. Mike?


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[Assistant] I didn't hear Tyvis. Alright. Next is Teetering Contenders. You've got Bangles and the Eagles. Next is On the Right Track. This is where we land with the Rams, Browns, Buccaneers, Texans, Jaguars, and Packers.


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[Assistant] You've got stuck in the middle with the Seahawks, Colts, and Vikings in QB Purgatory with Denver, Atlanta, the Steelers, Washington, and the Patriots.


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[Assistant] It could go either way, is the Saints and the Jets, a new coach with the Raiders and the Chargers, rebuilding is the Panthers and the Titans, and then still rebuilding are the Bears, Cardinals, and Giants. Sorry, Mike. That's a lot of tears.


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[Assistant] The Browns, according to this, they are one of 12 teams that do not provide their players or families with a family room at the stadium. Oh, and I saw, I saw. That's a big problem.


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[Assistant] So that pretty much covers everything is like, a player.


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[Assistant] So there's- Which is not super uncommon by the way. There's 67% of players that felt like they had a comfortable amount of personal space during the flights, which was 26 overall. And then there are one of seven teams that require some players to have roommates the night before a game.


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[Assistant] The next grades, we're going back to, locker room was a D+, which we already mentioned that it was way too small. Training room got a C+, training staff got a B-, weight room got a D, and then the strength coach has got a B+, so it seems like we have the personnel, but not the facilities.


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[Assistant] Club owner Jimmy Haslam received a rating of 8.6 out of 10 by Brown's players when considering his willingness to invest in the facilities. 17th overall.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, if you guys wanted, uh, he got, their owner, Clark Hunt, got a 4.9 out of 10 in willingness to invest. Their training staff also had an F.


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[Assistant] Their training room got a D, their locker room got an F, and the nutrition dietitian got an F, food got a C-, and then the treatment of the family's got a D+. They do provide a family room and daycare across the street on, uh, uh, game day.


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[Assistant] A little caveat to the family things on Kansas City though, they said the players just want it not to be across the street for daycare. They want it on the facility. So that's nitpicking probably when they're voting. Well, it don't matter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna react to Kevin Stefanski's presser, but real quick guys, if you want even more Browns coverage, don't forget that Mondays and Fridays, G. Bush has the ultimate Browns show at 5 o'clock every Monday and Friday, give or take.


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[Assistant] Uh, the times do vary, but he's usually live there around 5 o'clock. I don't know what he has up on the docket for tomorrow. He hasn't let me know yet. But tune in to Friday at 5 for the Ultimate Brown Show.


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[Assistant] I'm recording, I got invited out of my first podcast tonight and I am getting to talk all things video games with the Showboys podcast who are a fan of the show.


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[Assistant] It's going to premiere next Tuesday night and I'm recording it tonight. We're going to talk about the console wars and it's a huge march madness series that they're putting on over there. Five episodes in total and I'm really excited about it. So I wanted to give those guys a shout out for inviting me on and I'm really hyped to do it tonight.


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[Assistant] So we have 16 Xbox exclusive titles that we're going over to tonight. And we gotta pick the best one out of those 16, and then they'll have episodes on Playstation, Nintendo and PC later on with other people, and I'll be back for the championship round.


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[Assistant] Showboys podcast, you said? Showboys podcast. You can check them out over on YouTube. There's some fans of the show. Really nice guys. Love them. They made that graphic for me. That wasn't even me. Nice.


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[Assistant] Probably. If you woke him up at 1040 and he's gonna be here in five minutes, he can no longer use an excuse, I left the house at 1005 and I'm stuck in traffic.


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[Assistant] It's been a day. My wife had surgery yesterday. Get well soon, honey. Feel better. She had ankle surgery.


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[Assistant] So just, you know, long night taking care of her and everything and making sure she's, she's okay.


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[Assistant] So then I'm on the call, we're coming here, coming on the freeway, and Mike's talking and there's something big in the middle of the lane, I don't know what it was, it was like plywood or something. Oh boy. I go to swerve around it instead, BOOM! Hit it square.


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[Assistant] And seconds after I hit air or something, I don't know what it was. The car dings and I'm watching, literally watching the air pressure fall from not one, not one, but


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[Assistant] No, he's left tackle next year. And I, you know, I think they're probably looking at next year as a big year for him. And if he, I mean, he, he was very inconsistent up and down last year, got off to a terrible start, got better.


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[Assistant] As the year went on and then obviously got hurt. I think they want to see what he looks like coming back off the injury.


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[Assistant] And if he performs well, I've insisted he was average until I got mad at him and broke up with him about three weeks into last season. But for the most part, I've tried to maintain that he's league average or thereabouts. And if he continues to be average or thereabouts.


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[Assistant] Maybe you give him an average type extension. You know, I don't know, but I think that they want to see how he looks next year before making any sort of...


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[Assistant] Long term commitment to them. And I'm just aggravating because yesterday we were sitting here trying to think what other contracts would make sense to restructure. Well this was an obvious one that I didn't even think of.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, I can't do, my brain doesn't operate in ideal and, and like, I just, I'm too pragmatic and too locked into what's the reality of the situation. What can they realistically get done? And then I go down the rabbit holes of, well, if they do this, only this much is going to be on the cap.


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[Assistant] And then they're gonna put void years on the end. And so I hate when Mike gives me these assignments because I can never just do them in 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] Okay. My brain won't allow me, but here's what I, I don't, I, what I sent you was such a mishmash jumble. I don't know how, I'm curious to see how you even set it up. Let's see, what did you put up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. So here's what I went with. Taki Taki, Pahorkis and Nick Chubb are coming back. Uh, and, and there'll be other moves as well. Like I think Jordan Elliott probably makes sense that they could bring him back or Moe Hurst, but I was running out of space and...


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[Assistant] But the big ones here for me, Chase Young is the big one. And the more I think about this, the more I like this. I think he's gonna wind up on a one year make good deal.


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[Assistant] He's young. There's obviously a huge ceiling here. He hasn't lived up to expectations. I think this is the perfect system for him. He's 24, 25 years old.


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[Assistant] If you put him in Jim Schwartz, a system opposite Miles, and you know, if he, if he has a big year, now maybe you've, you've, you can turn him into staying long-term. So I like Chase Young on a one-year deal, about 18 million total, probably $5 million cap hit, a couple of void years on the end.


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[Assistant] Something like that. They get creative with the signing bonus structure so it's not a massive cap hit.


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[Assistant] Mike Williams, I, I, the more I thought about Mary Kay's ideas, we were talking yesterday, I like that. And the reason I like Mike Williams is they're number one. And, and obviously for the, for the sake of this, we're going to assume that he's released, they don't trade for him and now he's a free agent available to sign.


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[Assistant] The reason I like this is I just think, you know, Tyvis made a great point yesterday. I thought about, like, he's just gonna go up and make you a play. And if you're trying to build this around Deshaun, you're trying to make Deshaun comfortable. To me, you want guys who can freelance a little bit because that's what he does best. When the play breaks down, he's gonna use his feet and he's just gonna make something happen.


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[Assistant] So what better to do that than someone he has familiarity with than Mike Williams and someone who very much can just go up and make you a play. He can go out ball somebody and go get the ball. So that's why I like Mike Williams there. That was very similar to Odell's deal. I looked at Odell's deal last year, one year, 15 million.


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[Assistant] That's a guy, another guy who's had a lot of injuries in his career, probably a little bit bigger in name than production.


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[Assistant] knock a couple of million and I think you could pro 12 million range. Dequan Jones tackle. He had some injur a lot of time, probably ha can give you a nice inter


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[Assistant] I still don't like the idea of bringing Joe Flacco back. Okay. So I'm going with Jacoby Brissette because I just think Flacco


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[Assistant] There's a lot that comes with bringing Joe back, and he had a phenomenal run when he was here. He's going somewhere else I think. I don't know, but, but Jacoby is safe because he's a known quantity, you know what you get him, the guys respect him in the locker room, they really like him, but he doesn't bring the same


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[Assistant] And he has a good relationship with Watson. And I just think Jacoby fits really well here. I think you can get him back on a one year deal. Now, I was talking to Zach this morning. Zach Jackson thinks he's going to New England with AVP.


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[Assistant] And so maybe that unravels that right there at the start. But I like Jacoby Brissette back here as the backup. And I've even softened on that because I didn't, I kept saying DTR, DTR, they drafted DTR.


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[Assistant] The injury threat with Deshaun Watson is real.


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[Assistant] And we're going to get to that in a little bit about all the time that Cleveland spends talking about backup quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Well, I think like he has not demonstrated throughout his career that he can stay healthy. Deshaun's had a lot of injuries. So I do think that they need to prioritize that spot a little bit more. If you can get your Kobe for six million, I think you can take it and run with it. But the bigger point out of all of this that I kept like battling in my head was,


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[Assistant] If whatever, I don't care what number you give me as the amount of cap space the Browns have, they are not going to spend up to that number. They're going to roll over.


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[Assistant] 5, 8, 10 million into next year's cap because that's just how they operate. So if, if there's a way that they can


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[Assistant] Continue to roll? I think they're going to continue to roll. So I, I wanted to stop short of the grant, of the grand total because I don't think that they're going to spend everything that they have available to them. They're going to try and keep rolling this snowball downhill.


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[Assistant] And remember they do have a draft class they have to sign. They have camp guys they have to bring in. So you have to leave a little bit of wiggle room on every cap.


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[Assistant] I will be two for the record. I don't, I would be two.


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[Assistant] Very inconsistent. You know who Zach Jackson had as number one? Who? Someone we haven't even talked about it. Who? Darnell Mooney.


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[Assistant] They could even find a starting quarterback for mostly the last 20 years. So I don't think that the backup.


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[Assistant] It hasn't commanded the amount of attention that it has.


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[Assistant] Now, number one, because Flacco went on such an incredible run last year, I think has everybody's attention. Number two, the injury history of Deshaun has a lot of people realizing, man,


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[Assistant] That's probably not reality though. Reality is that guy is probably going to be called on at some point. And so a lot of the time, focus and attention has been put on a backup spot.


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[Assistant] I do think last year was very much an anomaly. I still believe if your starting quarterback goes down, you're probably screwed.


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[Assistant] And they've stumbled into, and very much stumbled into a backup in Flacco, a replacement guy, who fit the system perfectly. A system, by the way, that they're completely tearing down and changing. So who's to say Flacco's gonna fit the new system? I don't think he'll fit it at all, actually. Do we know for sure they're tearing down it? Uh, pretty sure. Yeaah. Pretty, pretty, pretty sure.


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[Assistant] That's why they brought in a quarterback, a quarterback coach, offensive coordinator who has a lot of experience in this type of mobile quarterback shotgun spread. And again, it, it, I don't want to make it sound like it's a bad thing. I don't think it's a bad thing.


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[Assistant] But when you have the amount of success that they had, and they did have success last year with that style offense, it just kind of makes you think like, man, it's not a hard system that they were asking to Sean to run.


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[Assistant] And I know you want to play to a quarterback's strengths and I agree with that. You want to play to what your quarterback does well. But,


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[Assistant] That offense that Kevin was trying to run last year took a team to the Super Bowl in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] And is the team good enough to win it? That's basically San Francisco's offense is what Kevin's writing.


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[Assistant] And it's not very complicated, but I don't want to get off on a tangent on that. Ken Dorsey's the genius that's going to turn the offense around. We'll see. Okay. But I went on such a tangent now, I forgot what the original point was, but in terms of... Winning with a backup


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[Assistant] Woody, with the backup quarterback, I do think that that was very much an anomaly. Yes. I like DTR. I'm telling, we talked about it yesterday. I really felt like he was really starting to come into his own a little bit. And what was it? The Denver? Not the Denver. What came to get the concussion? Chargers? It was somewhere on the west.


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[Assistant] I really felt like he had a couple of throws and a couple of drives where you could just see it, you could see it coming, you could feel his confidence gaining.


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[Assistant] And I thought like, okay, like this is it. And then he gets a concussion and then he's knocked out and then Flacco comes in and everything takes off. And I, and I, I put Jacoby on my list and, and I would be fine with that if they did bring in a veteran, but I'd be okay with it if they roll a DTR. I don't think they're going to, I think they probably will bring in a veteran, but.


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[Assistant] I think DTR is still the long-term plan as the quarterback here, is the backup quarterback here long-term. And I, just little glimpses, but I like what we saw last year.


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[Assistant] It can happen. But it's very rare. Do you really want to run around with a bottle looking for lightning? Because that's basically what it is. See? I know you feel differently.


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[Assistant] This is an exciting matchup. There's a lot of people who feel that way. It's the way the NBA has become. But yeah, it is a good matchup. Uh, Minnesota's gonna be without Carl Anthony Towns for a while. So, you know, we'll see how that impacts them going forward. They're a young team.


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[Assistant] I've talked before about this, there's progressions to this and Minnesota's kind of skipped a couple of steps down and jumped to number one in the west and we'll see if they can hold that now without one of the best players.


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[Assistant] I think it's dangerous to go into a game trying to force, especially when you're a point guard and you got other responsibilities. But yeah, I mean, he needs to have an aggressive mentality. Yes, there you go. Aggressive mentality. I don't know that I'd want to put a number on it, but I gotta hit this number.


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[Assistant] Looking to attack, looking to score. With Donovan being out, with Evan being out, you know, the injuries that they've had, I think he, yeaah, he needs to be aggressive.


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[Assistant] I don't think that he would look, they don't play the same position really. You know, I don't know that.


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[Assistant] He got paid, he got his money. I don't know if a game in March against a Western Conference team, he would look at it as a personal challenge. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he would look at it.


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[Assistant] He makes way too much money. He's way too much of a risk. He's a health risk beyond injury risk. I'm still not convinced he's not getting himself out of the league in three or four years. All right. 25 again.


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[Assistant] See, I looked at this as like guys who came in with tremendous fanfare. Okay, so Johnny Manziel. And then didn't live up to it. Right, so Johnny Manziel is a great example. Even Josh Gordon didn't really come in with that.


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[Assistant] I thought he was going to be the truth. He was up and down. I think he had enough success to stay off the list, but I'll give you another Indians pitcher. Jack McDowell from the 90s.


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[Assistant] Hand to God, this happened. I could Google it and probably find it.


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[Assistant] The Rich Get Richer. The Cleveland Indians have signed Jack McDowell. The Rich Get Richer. Coming off the 1995 World Series. They signed him for that 96 season. He never lived up to it. Uh, Andre Risen was another one. We just mentioned it. I mentioned it yesterday when I told you we were going to do this. Andre Risen was a big one.


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[Assistant] Michael Bourne and Swisher I had with you. Antoine Jameson I had on here through no fault of his own, but that was a really big deal when the Cavs traded for Antoine. He was like the other start up here next to Lebron.


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[Assistant] Johnny Manziel, Brandon Whedon, Brady Quinn, I put Brady on there as another first round quarterback who had probably not to the level of Loby J and some of those other guys but certainly didn't live up to expectations and I think I had Kevin Mitchell on there from the Indians signed him back in the day as a big power hitting left fielder and he lasted like 20 minutes.


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[Assistant] One guy I thought, but actually I don't think he fit, was Sean Kemp.


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[Assistant] He had 42 kids when he was here too. He was never the dynamic player that he was in Seattle here, but he had some good years here. Mike, you got anybody we left out?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that there was a little bit of, what? Who is this kid thinking? Yeah. Ricky Davis had some stupid quote. Right, right. About, I can't remember now. Right, I mean he was getting so much hype. Yeah. You know.


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[Assistant] Muzgob was what we expected him to be. To this day, I think, I couldn't believe they traded two first round picks for him. They traded two first round picks. Which is kind of crazy. It's totally nuts. And everyone thought I was crazy for saying it was crazy. But in the end, we expected him to be a serviceable player.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I never did get to the bottom of what was true and what was reality and what wasn't.


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[Assistant] I should know more about that one than I do. I never got to the bottom of, there was so much, everybody moves into cover your ass mode on that, so you can never really get what was reality. By the way, I didn't remember this.


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[Assistant] Nothing happened, it was a bad trade. Derek Rose? But we, he was already cooked. Monty Chisholm?


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[Assistant] No, he was not that big of a prospect. He was their top prospect, but he wasn't a top prospect.


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[Assistant] I never heard that before. I might write about that actually. That's cool. Where'd you read that? I don't remember.


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[Assistant] He was at the end of his career. But it was a big deal when he got here. They had a massive press conference for him. They traded for him. But he was toward the end of his career. But it fits. Good job. Alright. Nice job.


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[Assistant] Because right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 bet. And don't forget to be sure to check out the FanDuel ProfitBoost tokens in the app. You can use them for the UNC Duke game. ProfitBoost tokens will be available before the big game. You can view them in your account page and you can learn more about your boost right now.


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[Assistant] You just have to visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS and shoot your shot. FanDuel, the official sportsbook partner of the NBA.


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[Assistant] Yeah, before we go to running backs, guys, I want to remind you that we talked a lot about the Cavs, but that game was insane, so if you didn't get enough coverage,


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[Assistant] Ultimate Cavs is tonight with Jason and Mike. Mike, what time is that?


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[Assistant] Alright guys, before we switch it up to baseball, I actually want to remind you all again that you can get buckets with your first bet on FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. Because right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 bet.


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[Assistant] It's in the app, you can go to your account page, check out the boost and you want to use them for the UNC Duke game this weekend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so give me one second here, Mike. I just want to remind everybody that Earl's doing the Ultimate 216 tomorrow, and Earl actually has a full tease here for us to show once he pulls it up here. He's going, it... Earl, do you want to chime in here?


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[Assistant] You know who. You know who screwed me. Kyrie? No. Came through.


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[Assistant] You know what, that's just how it is when you come to basketball. I missed miles by two legs. I needed another three from Garland and I needed two more rebounds from Allen, which


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[Assistant] How can you not get 11 boards? But Heming, Heming Mobley did a really good job on the boards. I think they both split 9 rebounds apiece. So, you know what it is, what it is. I'll take the Cavs win over all of that. Facts.


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[Assistant] The Trail Blazers and San Antonio. He went crazy in the fourth quarter. I think LeBron filed out that game in San Antonio. He had to carry that team and help them win that. So right after that, I probably put that Max Streus up there.


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[Assistant] I mean, after hitting this big time shot, it just shows that he has that potential to get things done like that. I mean, that's a difficult shot. That's really one of those ones you just throw it up and hope that it goes in. But to me, he kinda knew when he left his hands that that ball was gonna go in. You know, Donovan Mitchell isn't on the court. You know, you need somebody to step up and be aggressive.


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[Assistant] And the good thing that was good about that is that


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley, whether he meant to do it or not.


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[Assistant] They recognize who was the hot hand. Find the hot hand. This man been cooking all quarter. Yes, he's gonna take the last shot. I don't care who's on the court. He should be the one that takes the shot because he's hot.


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[Assistant] And he ended up coming through for you. I think that after watching this game, I know it's a regular season and a lot of people say that the regular season don't matter, but you can tell that this game mattered to both teams. Both teams really wanted to win this game. Both teams superstars outside of Darius.


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[Assistant] Both teams, the stars showed up and they showed out in big ways. They played big in big moments. Luca finished with what, 45 points? Kyrie had 30? So like, they was actually hoopy.


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[Assistant] But what it tells me is that the Cavs did a good job in the offseason of getting the talent that they need.


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[Assistant] You know, George Niang, he showed up and made some tough buckets. Max Scrooge obviously made some tough buckets. They had 30 points come off the bench.


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[Assistant] They just gotta continue to jail. And Darius, you gotta get going on the points, man. It's gonna come a game where you gotta hit. It was nice to see O'Coro hit a couple of shots. He played some good defense. I didn't like the Jared Allen switching on.


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[Assistant] Luka, cause Luka kinda took advantage of that every time, but outside of that, it was a good game.


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[Assistant] Do you think that one of the core four, if Donovan Mitchell's not available, if he's double teamed or triple teamed, let's just say he's not on the court for the last shot, are you now comfortable with Max Streus taking it or do you think some guys like Darius or Evans should be able to take that shot?


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[Assistant] Let's see, y'all need to cut that out. Let's see, y'all. The man, he gonna get back to where he was.


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[Assistant] When it come playoff time, that'll be...


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[Assistant] First off, let's just call it what it is. This is just another clear example.


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[Assistant] So shout out to you for doing that. But I think that this is just the first of many to come. I think that...


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[Assistant] I think that they're going to definitely read, they're going to restructure Deshawn's contract until it's time to pay that whole thing in full. And I think Amari Cooper will probably be open to it because I think he realizes where he's at in his career, he needs that extra help. So if him giving back some money is going to help bring in somebody that's going to


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[Assistant] When you get later in your career, it's not about the money as much anymore. It's about winning the Super Bowl, especially if you don't have any.


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[Assistant] Like I said, as you get older, you know your chances to win it becomes more slim. So I think Obari Cooper would be open to doing such a thing. Uhm, and I think that the Browns created enough space to get some type of big time free agent. Don't know what position that's gonna be, but I expect them to make some type of big move this offseason. Let me, let me, let me, let me, swing me the ball. Swing me the rock.


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[Assistant] You know everybody, if you gonna take it to Deshawn, I mean everybody's, I think everybody's big beef with Deshawn.


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[Assistant] Outside of the off the field stuff. I can't speak for that, but I think what I like to do is I like to, I'm 30 now, so I like to see it from both sides of the argument. I think everybody's beef with Deshawn is, is their head.


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[Assistant] They think, listen, DaShine was in there and the receiver unit looked at, okay, David Najoku was just in.


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[Assistant] Elijah Moore, and Mark Cooper did his thing cause Mark Cooper gonna be Mark Cooper. But, Joe Flacco took that same group.


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[Assistant] And they, and he elevated they played. David the joker became a top five tight end. Elijah Moore had some sparks in there. So I think.


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[Assistant] They're thinking is, why is it that Joe Flacco was able to raise the play of these receivers, but Deshaun couldn't get that same thing out. I think that's what, I'm not saying that right or wrong, I'm just telling you what


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[Assistant] But you'll say, phew, why not? We need it. We need a big playmaking guy. Gabe is better than what we got. So, that's, that's the big argument is what piece, what wire receiver, specifically the wire receiver piece, what wire receiver piece and who opposite of Miles Garrett? That's the two big questions, Marcia, this whole thing.


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[Assistant] Calvin, Marquis Brown, and Gabe Dennis. And see, I don't want Marquis Brown, man. He little.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, I'ma be honest with you. Now if he signed any of them before, I'm fine with any of those.


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[Assistant] I just don't know as far as contract wise who's worth what. Like Mike Williams, I know if Mike Williams could stay healthy, he'd be really, he'd probably be one of my favorites.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think he, cause he's actually like a burner. Like to me, I thought Elijah Moore was a burner, but he, for some reason his field speed just ain't that great.


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[Assistant] But I do believe, outside of why I receive a position, I do believe the number, the other thing that they have to address is they have to figure out why they too, why they wasn't good on the road on defense and how are they going to


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[Assistant] And it showed that when they played a more talented quarterback, they struggled defensively.


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[Assistant] And the only way I think that can change that, you gotta come with disguises where quarterbacks can't figure out what you in, which don't, it's not, it's hard to do because these quarterbacks have seen a lot. But I remember a Super Bowl, Tom Brady against the Rams, if you went back and watched that Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] It took Tom Brady to like the third quarter to figure out what coverage they was in because they did such a, Wade Phillips did such a great job with the scourge and coverage. So it can be done and you gotta get a good pass rush. The pass rush has to get there. That quarterback can't sit back there and hold the ball.


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[Assistant] Yes. Yes. Nick Chou will be a Cleveland Brown next year.


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[Assistant] I don't see how it doesn't happen. First of all, this whole city would go into uproar if Nick Chubb isn't with the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Dick Chubb wants to be a member of the Cleveland Brown. I think he, he has to understand that. Listen, yeah, coming off of a knee surgery.


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[Assistant] coming off of two major knee surgeries right now. So it's my demand is not going to be high. Even if I touch the free agent market, they're not going to break the bank for me. I'm not going to get a bunch of money because I'm coming off of this knee thing until I go out there and prove it that I'll be able to get some money for later on or maybe next year. So I think they do come to an understanding that


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[Assistant] They can find some common ground, probably give him some incentivized deals to help him make more money, but yeaah, he's gotta give some of that money.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, even if Nick Chubb isn't Nick Chubb, just his presence in that room alone, just him being able to teach younger guys or Jerome Ford or whoever it may be. Right. Like that, you can't even get that from somebody else, so it's...


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[Assistant] I think he'll be fine. For him, everybody, it's probably just a mental thing. He just, once we figure out the weapons that he has, he gotta figure out this new playbook or whatever Ken Dorsey's gonna bring in.


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[Assistant] That's the thing that I worry about the most, him getting the chemistry. I want him to make sure that he's out there getting that timing and getting that chemistry with these wide receivers and understanding that new playbook.


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[Assistant] 3100? I don't think, no. I don't think he, I don't think he could believe that. What's the chances?


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[Assistant] I mean, this was the big thing, this was a big conversation back when the trade deadline happened this year. It's too early. Teams still are in the fight. You know, they're still like, we're not, if, if like, if at this point we're, I don't know, when is the deadline? It's like week eight or something like that. At this point, yeah, we like O and A, yeah, we'll say it.


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[Assistant] And that's why you don't see a lot of the big time trades happening or stuff like that happening. So I think they do need to move it back so teams can have a more clear vision of what that season is going to entail so they can move and treat the trade deadline as such.


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[Assistant] And Anthony Earl is back behind the glass producer. And they say we got some breaking news. And you hear that the Browns have, have extended


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[Assistant] Philip Walker. How would you feel? What would be your reactions to that? Just out of curiosity.


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[Assistant] Like you, it's, it's just in your nature. When you practice that DB stuff, like the way I did it, like I was obsessed with it. Like I had Sherm and all them teaching me this stuff. I used to be out to practice every day, just step kick it, step kick locker.


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[Assistant] So what, what attracted you? Cause you, so after you went undrafted, right? Right. So what made you say, I'ma go to the grounds and trial?


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[Assistant] A lot of people's mom do. Yeaah, they gonna hold it down. They definitely keep you out of trouble. I know my mama was pretty much the same way. She was like, listen.


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[Assistant] You better start playing sports and everything. She always kept me busy. Talking back to the Browns, you know, last year obviously as an undrafted person you made the 53 man roster.


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[Assistant] Talk about, cause I had that same, I was in your same situation. I was undrafted to Seattle. Okay. And I ended up making the 53 man roster. Right. Let's hear your side of the story. You know, as a rookie, first year in the league, talk about what you did and what you feel like you did well to make you make the 53 man roster.


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[Assistant] Listen, like I'd have been there. I ain't wasn't in your situation. I only made one start in the NFL. But talk about the difference preparing as when you know like I'm in the game from play one.


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[Assistant] It's our responsibility to make, make sure everybody is ready to go. Yeah. Cause you won't play away. If I'm not playing, that's still my dog. I still want to see my dog shine. So it's nice to hear that that secondary, you know, became closer together like that.


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[Assistant] Nah, listen, I've been there, I've been in this situation, but it's concerning to me. It might not be that big to you, but it's a little concerning to me.


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[Assistant] I've been on the team where I've been an undrafted free agent and I made the team. You take what number they give you. I had 40. I had safety.


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[Assistant] Probably way more than that now. But anyways, what you, what was the first thing you like? Man, listen, I always wanted this when I was a kid. I'ma go ahead and buy this, make this big purchase.


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[Assistant] I think for sure like, like your story and just sitting here talking to you, I think that for sure people will definitely respect the things that you have to say and every year, you know, it's going to be a group of


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[Assistant] They, they, they made it their job and their mission to make sure that you was good. Oh, okay, yeaah. Like, cause, obviously on the preseason, you're not just auditioning for your team, you're auditioning for every other team. For sure. And their goal was, everybody in this room,


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[Assistant] They wanted to see you succeed. And I feel like with you, you can have that same impact on a young dude. I think he already did it though.


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[Assistant] What did I, what, uh, I was 215. I played corner at 215. Corner at 215?


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[Assistant] Listen, 240, 240, to be honest with you, I'd be unbelievable at Mike or Will right now. Cause when it comes to like, getting in them passing drives, I can get 10 to 12, 10 to 12, one yard outside the hash.


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[Assistant] They say it's like a game y'all play in the locker room and he like run it. I don't know what it is. What game? What game that is? I don't think it's ping pong.


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[Assistant] Like, you got the Johns and the Joes this year. If you can't get it done in a place, I think you...


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[Assistant] You the answer that you can't get it done. I always respect the guy who likes defense and that offense does look better now that they are taking those 43s a game, you know, and they're putting up all these points and they're able to battle some of these good teams in the East. Like I respect what he's doing, but at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] I need to see what you do in the playoffs because every time you got into the playoffs, the play in game, you fumbled those games. Last year you fumbled the Knicks series. So if you can't get it done this year, I think you're the last option. So that's my whole take on JB.


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[Assistant] See, what you didn't know, what you don't know, what you didn't know, I had the same thing that kinda happened. I was like, yo, I was up and moving around and I got in my car and I was like, man, I got sweatpants on, so I called my wife too.


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[Assistant] Chris Jones with Miles Garrett is so good. Yeaah, I mean Chris Jones.


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[Assistant] That, that you could afford Deshaun Watson playing average.


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[Assistant] Hey, listen, he can play with Chris Jones. He can play average and they still make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's 13 sacks from a defensive tackle. Let me just repeat that. 13 sacks from a defensive tackle is like the equivalent of a defensive back getting 15 picks in a year.


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[Assistant] Like, yes, I take him, and I plug him in. Now, he ain't good as Chris Jones, but, I mean, this guy was-


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[Assistant] He would transform a lot of stuff. Like you, the Browns defense will be lit.


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[Assistant] Oh hey, I still take it Chris Jones. I forgot, I didn't know he was that young. Yeaah. I thought he was 33.


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[Assistant] I don't know if Chris Jones is gonna be good for 4-5. I've seen Chris Jones dominate a Super Bowl. And listen. By himself. Fair. Fair.


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[Assistant] And the only other defensive tackle I seen do that was, was, was him. And you already know who that is. Nobody's better than him.


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[Assistant] That's how I feel. No, I'm with both. Yeaah. Listen, I'm not getting no spot fillers. Uhm, I don't want nobody just a placeholder.


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[Assistant] Like, when you see 13 sacks of defensive tackle, that means elite.


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[Assistant] That means, like, come on now, that's crazy. I don't want no guy that's just up here, just up front, taking up double teams. That don't make no sense. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Nick Chubb has been always better with the two-back system.


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[Assistant] Uh, given the fact that, you know, he might not even be ready to go and getting his money off until week six, this is an important position to me. Uhm, and I, I said Saquon Barkley's name last year, uhm, going into the off season.


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[Assistant] Can you imagine having Saquon Barkley and Nick Chubb in the backfield? That is crazy.


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[Assistant] And he's a better third down back than Chubb. Uh, he's been injured. Now that's the only reason I would be like, yo, I'm kinda, uh, I don't wanna, I don't wanna see if I wanna go down that road. He's been injured. But I will say this, uhm, if I could get Saquon Barkley,


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[Assistant] I'd be willing to take a Mike Williams, and now I think the Cleveland Browns is ready to roll. I think they need another running back. People may say that Chubb already got to take a pay cut, but I would look at Saquon Barkley.


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[Assistant] See the greatness in him. I mean, the Giants is trash. They've been trash.


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[Assistant] So the Browns have had one of the top five lines for the four or five years. That's, that's not.


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[Assistant] I mean, but do we want everybody to be Superman? Sometimes you're good. I've just not spent... Saquon Barkley thinks he's an elite back. I don't think he is. I'll put it to you like this. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He is a, he is a massive upgrade from Jerome Ford and he is an insurance policy if Nick Chubb comes back and is not Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] If the running back is good, we'd be like, oh, they're good, but does it really matter? You can get a running back and they can get the same yards. But if the running back is bad, they're like, why didn't you put those yards up? You're supposed to be making people in the whole mess. You're supposed to catch 90 balls. Like for me, I always say yes because it is. I'm operating under the assumption that y'all got two years. You got two years to get this off. Two? You got one?


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[Assistant] So I'll take you, I'll take what you saying, you saying that you'll take another back, you just don't like this one particularly.


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[Assistant] There you go. You had a good year last year. You could get him for pennies on a dollar. That's true. Uh, maybe four or five million bucks. And, uh, Zach Moss had a really nice year. He did. Uh, with the Colts. Yep. Alright.


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[Assistant] Here, here, here, here, here, here, young dude, eight sacks, okay.


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[Assistant] And plus, you've been looking for, I mean, you've got Olivier Vernon, you've got, uh, you've got Emmanuel Ogba, you've got, uh, the Judavian counties, and then you've got Zedaria Smith. Those are all the sidekicks, right? Out of all of those sidekicks, I think Burns is better than those guys.


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[Assistant] The only way I would, like, the only defender, defensive player that I would be like, okay, well we not gonna get no T-Higgins.


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[Assistant] I'd have to have Chris Jones. It would have to be like, oh, you got Chris Jones and Miles Garrett. You're not, you're not doing nothing on them. Uh, I would take, but other than that, T. Higgins is, is definitely over all that. Jason?


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[Assistant] Here's why I disagree. I don't disagree with your premise. I disagree that that premise doesn't go for this era. Like, yeaah, if we were in an era where Patrick Mahomes didn't exist, you could say, I'ma just trust my quarterback to make everybody better.


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[Assistant] Darryl, Deshaun Watson, if he made them, if he upgraded all of them to 100%,


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[Assistant] But Patrick Mahomes is Jordan. Agreed. He don't, Jordan don't need, Jordan can roll with Paxson.


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[Assistant] I'm looking, I'm looking at the huge thing. Okay, you elevate, you had a nice season. Nice seasons ain't got nothing to do with the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Now, elevating, like, you can, it ain't no, it ain't no more, like, elevating Elijah Moore to his 100%, that ain't gonna get nothing done. I mean, last year, people were talking about a thousand yards. That was ridiculous. We tripped.


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[Assistant] But, the other thing you gotta look at too is, the competition is steep. Like the difference between a superstar and a star may be a couple little plays right here through there.


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[Assistant] But the amount of people that are good is just different. So yeaah, you need all the above. You need them to elevate people, you need better talent, you need to have a playbook that can get you some easy yards, and you need a defense. It ain't just one or the other. That's true.


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[Assistant] If you, I'll ask you guys, if you said the Browns was gonna do irrational things with money,


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[Assistant] Exactly. Now Bull, I will say this. Now if, if they, if they took a different approach and said, well look, we already had the defensive player of the year, we had Schwartz, this is his second year, we think we gonna try to make this, do this a different way. Now if they go out and give me two stud defensive players,


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[Assistant] I'll pay him. I'll pay him whatever. I'll pay him one year deal. I'll rock with him. That production with J. O. K. That's cra-


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[Assistant] He's one of the best linebackers in coverage. Uhm, his boy, Devin White, I think is a free agent. And boy has he fallen off, but Levante David is a...


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[Assistant] I think Josh Allen is a better athlete. Better at more explosive. And by the way, I give him, and he's young too, right? He's 26. Oh yeah, he's getting, I'd match him out. Can we trade for the other Josh Allen?


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[Assistant] 120, yeaah, yeaah, he's uh, yeaah, I'll take him. Uh, it's not a position of need. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Cause I actually like the guys that got behind them a little bit too. I like some of those dudes. I like, uh,


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[Assistant] You know what I'm sayin'? Uh, the kid from Ohio State. Roddy Hickman. Hickman, I like him. Uhm, I like Bell. He's a special teams guy, but...


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[Assistant] I mean, he's, this guy right here is a dude that can put your defense on a different level. So they came to me and was like, look, if you say, this is La La Land, right? But if you say, hey, all right, we're going to get, we're going to get, uh, what's her name? Jones. We'll get Chris Jones and we're going to get Winfield.


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[Assistant] Texas is big, like Texas is like, matter of fact it wasn't.


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[Assistant] If you, if you, if you swap out Chubb for Kamara and then just, uh, and to, and then get rid of, uh, Jacoby Myers and keep Kamara because he can catch the ball.


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[Assistant] It was quick. It was quick. We've been overtime.


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[Assistant] I saw him playing a little bit the other day. Oh really? But there ain't nothing crazy. Why did he just retire at this point? What's he doing? Because they give him an ungodly sum of money to do nothing. Geez.


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[Assistant] I think a lot of people feel that way. Like regular fans? Like a lot of people, like when we talk about Donovan Mitchell, it's almost like this thing where, okay, yeaah, we got the core four, but we still got Jared Allen. That's why we want Trey Mobley or Garland, because we got a fallback plan. Oh, no, no, no, no. They ain't got a fallback plan. Did you notice the softness on that court yesterday?


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[Assistant] Just flex on em, pose on em, knock em around, doozers, and Brad Doherty is like, yeah, you know, the Cavs gotta, you know, give some resistance here. Man, they got, I was like, where is the game that we saw a couple of weeks ago?


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[Assistant] That to me is completely unfair. I'm not judging it all based on one game this year. I'm judging it based on the way that Darius Garland has played since he got back.


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[Assistant] What's alarming to me is this, and take the hyperbole out of it, just look at it this way.


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[Assistant] With just Jared Allen and Donovan Mitchell and roleplayers.


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[Assistant] That looks like night and day from what they're playing now and they have starters back. Yea, but they've been playing well outside of yesterday's game. They won 18 to 20 before yesterday. What I'm saying to you is, if you watch and you look at the games and you watch how they're playing, right? When Darius Garland came back, yesterday we're still winning.


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[Assistant] Most of the time he was like, well, where am I supposed to go in here?


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[Assistant] I look at it like this. I look at it like this. And I actually, and this is the question that you come in talking about, right?


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[Assistant] It's Darius Garland. Let's be honest with ourselves. Is he a Max player?


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[Assistant] And, or I'm gonna look to get my guys, and if I don't got it, I'm moving to basketball. When he comes off the pick and roll, I was just sitting there texting, I was texting, uh, Lima, and he was, you know, talking about, but I said, Garland needs, he needs to shoot more threes.


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[Assistant] Like, he, he needs to, like, when Sam Merrill come off the screen, he's aggressive. Like, if you give me an inch, you better not go in that pick and roll. Give me an inch, I'm firing. The same thing with Donovan Mitchell. Like, even when Georges Nguyen gets to the game, he's ready to shoot. It don't matter if he go in or not.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, it was more of a, more probing, like, he's keeping his dribble line under the basket, and then when he gets into a position where, you know, the defense collapsed, he's just kind of looking to throw the ball and get the guys laid in shot clock.


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[Assistant] And I get it, you know, because they talked about it on the telecast. You know, when you got the ball, you've been a point guard your whole life, you used to have in the ball. It's difficult for somebody to be like, no, no, just change what you do now. And that's what you've been doing. Uhm, I think that's more difficult than people let on. Uhm, but for me, I think it's another alarming thing where


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[Assistant] Sometimes JB, like, if it ain't all going right, like,


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[Assistant] Pull a lever over here, right? If it ain't going all right, hey, Sam Merrill, come on, give me a spark in here or something. Or, hey, listen, Evan Mobley was aggressive. He saw Evan getting the ball going down court.


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[Assistant] Pushin' the pace, hey guys, listen, Evan got a, he got a matchup today. And he's tellin' em, be more aggressive, make sure, hey guys, Donovan ain't here, we need, we need y'all, the rest of y'all three, y'all know what time it is, y'all supposed to be super aggressive. But it just didn't seem like they was, they was in that mode, they was just kinda like,


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[Assistant] The only thing I will say with that is, I agree, like, you're not gonna just scrap everything because you had a bad game in February against Orlando. But the alarming thing is, if I was JB,


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[Assistant] If you're not making shots, okay. If you're trying to figure out the offense, okay, that's cool. But one thing we're not going to do since the Knicks is we're not going to come get pumped.


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[Assistant] We don't have the side by side graphic ready guys? Do you got that?


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[Assistant] I love capitalism, man, in America. You know, where else can you get five, four, five million dollars for being a good guy? That's right. And they just tell you straight up, listen, we only put them on the roster.


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[Assistant] You know, we played them one year in high school basketball. With who? My team played them.


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[Assistant] Anybody famous? At the time it was the dude, uhm, he, he is the, uh, the white point guard from Maryland. Blake. Steve Blake. Oh. I played against Steve Blake.


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[Assistant] And the thing with Baker's contract that got that beautiful yellow highlight, he plays it in Florida.


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[Assistant] Fine. I do get the feeling that it is going to happen at some point. I just think it should have happened already. Is that going to impact decisions they make in free agency? Well, that depends on how Andrew Barry feels. If Andrew Barry feels like the extension is coming, then probably not. It is probably human nature to wonder about your future and wonder.


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[Assistant] You know, he's in that window right now of the right now mode right now. Nick Chubbs had two major knee injuries in his career now. It is, it is right now. It's, it's no longer a point of what are you going to do a year from now or two years from now or three years from now. It has to be about 2020.


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[Assistant] On the amount of zeros he's going to have to put on that check. Had he done it earlier, probably could have got him for a little bit less.


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[Assistant] But he's only hit 30 homers twice in his career, sorta to the point you alluded to. He's had a lot of injuries. He's had a lot of hand injuries. Right. And wrist issues in the past. And he's probably gonna have a DL stint or something like that, which may prevent him from hitting 30.


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[Assistant] Twice in 30 years, two times in his career, I can't expect at age 32 he's gonna hit 30. Give me 25, 27, and 100 RBIs, I'll take it every time. 15 stolen bases, and the type of defense that he can play at third, that's a top 15 player.


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[Assistant] A team like the Sixers without Joel Embiid could fall to the point where the Cavs would catch them in the first round matchup, which would be terrible news for the Cavs if that would happen.


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[Assistant] It's really hard to navigate the entire East and make the finals. I think that's probably still a year away for the trajectory that the Cavs are on.


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[Assistant] I'm Adam the Bull and from almost fired to coach of the year, we'll get into the Cavs in a little bit.


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[Assistant] And they were nowhere last year. Like, I know Oklahoma City is good for the first time in a while, but people saw Oklahoma City coming with all the young guys they had put together.


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[Assistant] Minnesota feels more out of left field, whereas the Cavs with a four seed last year. Sir, if Bickerstaff wins, great. He deserves 100% to be in the conversation, but I would go with Chris Finch in Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Sorry, two other guys real quick that deserve consideration, our old buddy Tai Lu. He's done a great job with a lot of veterans in LA and Thibodeau has done a great job with the Knicks. They've had a lot of injuries and they're right there with the Cavs.


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[Assistant] And avoided the pressure from the fan base that wanted him to make wholesale changes. He did. Instead he fixed the margins and it's worked.


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[Assistant] I got to say worse at the moment and now they'll have a chance to prove me wrong. And first of all, we don't, we don't know that a lot of these guys, you know, how do we know how good they are? But I thought the coaching staff as a whole did a tremendous job last year and I know Alex Van Pelt didn't call plays, but he was a key.


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[Assistant] Guy working with Kevin Stefanski, and from what we've heard since, he was a very important guy in that building. And the guy you replaced him with, I'm not saying he won't be good, he might be very good. But he did just get fired last year, in the middle of the season.


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[Assistant] So essentially he was, they were blaming him for the failures of an offense that had one of, if not the best quarterback besides Patrick Mahomes in football. So I can't, there's no way I can say it's better right now. It might turn out to be, but right now I can't say it's better. No way.


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[Assistant] Well, we've all ignored offensive line, which obviously, no matter how good Andy Dickerson is, that's a downgrade. I mean, that is definitively a downgrade.


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[Assistant] The Browns going to Brazil. I've got no problem with it. I think some of us used to be hung up and uptight about these out of USA games.


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[Assistant] I think it's cool that the NFL's doing this. I think it's exciting. I think there'll be a lot of energy in that game. It's an exclusive, like it's, we've never had a Friday night game at, last year they had it at Thanksgiving, but this is the first time we've had it at the beginning of the season. If you look at their possibilities, I think the Browns have a pretty good chance of being that.


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[Assistant] I'm just speculating. Mike, can you bring up that list real quick again of their opponents?


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[Assistant] If you could, because I look at the opponent, they're gonna want it to be a decent game, right? I would think they would want it to be a conference game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but a lot of times they don't want to put the division games.


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[Assistant] You want something that they can relate to. But the league often does not put these foreign games.


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[Assistant] This year made it depressing because in the past it was like, oh, they're so great, but this year was like, nah, they're not that great. And they still got there, right? And it's not much like it wasn't just Jordan, although he was the highlighter.


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[Assistant] Like the Jordan situation, Patrick Mahomes is not only the best quarterback, they also have the best coach. I don't think anybody- Well, he's got an on-field wingman too in Kelsey. Certainly. Now, that's the one thing.


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[Assistant] How many more good years could Kelsey have left? I don't know. But you have the best coach in the league. I don't think anybody would dispute that at this point. And the best quarterback in the league. I don't think anybody would dispute that at this point. It's gonna be hard. He's the Chiefs since Patrick Mahomes became the starter.


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[Assistant] I think about that. Most of the other teams haven't won six playoff games, period. He's six and three and two of the three losses were to Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Who's gone? So playing against quarterbacks that are still active, he's 6-1 AFC Championship Games in Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I think it's just right. I think they're gonna be right around there. I'm hoping they'll be better. I'm gonna take the over on it by a little.


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[Assistant] But I'm not overly confident. I think they're around the 500 team. The only reason I think it's slightly over is because the division is hideous.


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[Assistant] They don't. They don't. That's true. That's true. It really doesn't matter, actually. But.


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[Assistant] He had a great career, was unfairly criticized for game seven of the World Series in 2016 because he was lights out the rest of the postseason. He was overworked to that point. But shout out to him on a great career. He was a great one and gave us a lot of great memories.


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[Assistant] I think it's going to be a long year. The only reason I, I went a little higher and I got them finishing 81 and 81, dead even 500. Wow, okay. Is because they did have a lot of injuries last year, especially to their pitching staff. They did. I think the law of averages, the pitching staff, the pitching staff is good enough, is good enough. Here's a question, Bull. Yeah. Is Bieber going to be here?


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[Assistant] To start the season? I think at this point they probably both will be to start the season. Now, if you tell me they're both gone in a week, then I'm going under.


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[Assistant] This is Bieber's last year on the contract. It is. So he's gonna get traded at a deadline unless they're surprisingly good. Right. Klaus say they got for a bunch of years so it's not a guarantee. However, it's the closer is really the one position.


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[Assistant] Where their value in the trade market is higher during the season because teams know where they are in the bullpen and if they feel like they're a World Series contender and just missing a closer, they will pay a lot.


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[Assistant] There's a new sheriff in town, and his name is Reggie Hammett. While mine was, there's a new goat in town, and his name is Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes rallies chiefs with late touchdown to grab his third ring.


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[Assistant] Anthony was doing some homage to something else that I have no idea what he was doing.


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[Assistant] And by the way, if the Chiefs do win the Super Bowl this year, I wouldn't count out the chances of the Homes winning seven.


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[Assistant] Wow. There's only one assistant coordinator that would give me pause. And it's him. It's disappointing. I mean, one on the Brown staff.


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[Assistant] I agree with that. I think DC is first, and then offensive line. I'll throw it out there. Joe Thomas? He's in Germany. Why? Coaching. Learning how to be a coach.


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[Assistant] He told us on the show when we asked him point blank, oh that's definitely in my future, but when my kids are older. But I know how this works. When you're sitting at home, you run out of things to do.


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[Assistant] We're going to pick the ones that we agree, you know, five that we agree on and we'll debate them on Monday and then we'll put one in the column. And so this is going to be probably the most well thought out, well discussed, well debated five leg parlay in the history of parlay because I don't know how often we all four agree on anything.


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[Assistant] Well and the other thing too is one is actionary and one is reactionary. And, and I liked your point about the gelling together. It's much more of an orchestra on the offensive line.


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[Assistant] Not to say defensive lines don't work in tandem because they do often in twos. But the offensive line is a unit. And they, they have to be on the collective same play sheet. And it's, I think there's more of a, I don't wanna let my, the guy next to me down. It's really foxhole stuff down there.


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[Assistant] And I think the other thing too, and correct me if I'm wrong, I just think that Bill Callahan is widely regarded around the league as not just the best offensive line coach, but I've had people tell me, no, he's the best position coach.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're gonna bring someone in, but there are certainly levels to all of this. Whenever, and I like your analogy, whenever an organization loses a critical piece, it becomes more important with how you replace that job.


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[Assistant] So obviously they're all important in their own ways. But we sat here and sang the praises of Bill Callahan week in and week out last year because what we kept saying was,


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[Assistant] We've got two replacements on the, on the bookends and that's a recipe for disaster. And then on Monday we would sit here and say, wow, didn't even notice the left and right tackle. Didn't hear the names. We didn't say that in the playoff game. No, we didn't, but you can't. So Bill Bull, Bill Callahan.


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[Assistant] I wonder, Jace, I'll ask you a question, I don't know if you know the answer to this offhand. How many games did the Browns play


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[Assistant] With their starting five from when they broke camp. Zero. Confu got hurt in the opener.


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[Assistant] Offensive line didn't play great. Their offensive line was a hodgepodge mi- it was mixing and matching too is the other thing because like you said, you always hear about, well, the Bengals are playing their 17th game this year and they've had one starting line combination. I'm using them as an example.


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[Assistant] It happens. And what do, what do the coaches, what do analysts say about that? Well, the cohesion that they've had, they all know each other's tendencies, they're all working as a well-oiled unit. This, this one was like, okay, you're out, you're in, you're out, and you're out, and you're in, and you're in.


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[Assistant] I think Lomas, at least from the people that I've talked to on offensive lines, how they integrate, how they work together. He was so highly thought of that he was brought into Tampa at the end of his career knowing that he wasn't going to play. They had a guy named Kenyatta Walker who really needed a mentor. He came in and he was essentially


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[Assistant] A second offensive line coach. Now we did end up playing considerable amount, but that was because of injuries and whatnot.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would then work with him for six or seven years at ESPN and whenever the network had an offensive line issue like this, they brought in Lomas. Just because he's widely regarded as one of the best of our time.


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[Assistant] However, there will be a point next season, now hopefully we're not nearly as injured next year as we were this past season, but there will be a point next season where Bill Callahan's name comes up. It will either be


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[Assistant] We don't miss him. This offensive line is incredible. Or, where's Bill?


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[Assistant] And it was not. And I think because of the offensive


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[Assistant] Uh, some animus with said reporter, and so no matter what he says, you find egregious.


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[Assistant] I checked on my way in. I wanted to see if the sun came up over Berea and I didn't see the sun.


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[Assistant] I mentioned that yesterday, that this is gonna, for Cavs fans, it will be the mandatory, if you're only gonna watch or listen to one thing, I think this show is gonna be it. And also yesterday, we were having a conversation about, so, who goes in the rotation if you start, cause now you're talking about like the eight man playoff rotation and who's gonna be out.


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[Assistant] I think everybody was kind of in agreement about Dean Wade.


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[Assistant] You wisely said, wait a minute guys, here's a guy with a lot of different tools and you gotta be careful to push him to the side because he can help you. And watching him specifically last night.


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[Assistant] Mike's right, he's not a guy that is just gonna jump off at you, but when you look at all the little things he does during the course of the game, you're like,


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[Assistant] It's crazy. And the video coordinator job is a lot more important than it sounds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's interesting what's going on there, but Mike is a different basketball mind. He sees the game from an expert point of view, and I think this show is going to be, it's going to be a huge, you're going to have all the big fans, and once they trade Mobley and Garland to the LeBron,


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[Assistant] It's close. It's close as hell, man. I wanna see what Jay says, dude. I will ask. We discussed this yesterday.


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[Assistant] See, that's the difference. For me, that's the difference because Kyrie was always the two here and...


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[Assistant] No, but we can fix that. If LeBron came here, we could figure it out. How would Donovan be as a number two to LeBron?


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[Assistant] Is significant. I love the way Wendy tweeted it out too. It's just like, there it is.


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[Assistant] What's the trade? LeBron to Cleveland and Mobley and Garland to LA. No.


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[Assistant] And because he didn't get that adoration that he thought he would by joining the, the Kareem, Magic, Kobe legacies,


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[Assistant] I think to put a bow on it, to wrap it up, his career started in Cleveland. He won a championship in the middle of his career in Cleveland. He can come home and ride into the sunset in Cleveland. And to the point of his wife loves LA, she still lives in LA, she can stay in LA, doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] I think the other thing too, because I've always said that too, I said, let's not punish LeBron because he's been to how many finals? 10? 9?


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[Assistant] LeBron, because he's been to 10 finals and only won four, on the flip side, part of that Jordan argument is...


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[Assistant] He had to get past the team that was winning it in his conference that he was a part of and he moved teams and then they make it.


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[Assistant] Which infuriated Cavs fans because we had seen him essentially give up.


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[Assistant] Mike's going to do a read before we wrap it up. Let's bow it like this, just the number, percentage chance LeBron comes back and ends his career as a Cavalier. Uh, 33%.


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[Assistant] Does Bryce have the most potential? I've been told that Bryce is the real prospect. He's got the size.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's really tough because a lot of times the tell on, uh, whether or not, uh, general managers are lying is if their lips are moving. They don't want to give away their trade secrets. They don't, especially before the draft.


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[Assistant] There's no way though, there is no way that all of that can be true. Part of that is true. They have two Pro Bowl caliber pass catchers. Undeniable. You need three.


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[Assistant] And is there a team that has three receivers that go over 3,000 yards?


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[Assistant] Well listen, how many teams had two guys go markedly over Nijoku and Cooper?


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[Assistant] Uh, Philly and Miami clearly do because they had a 1,500 yard guy and an 1,800 yard guy.


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[Assistant] So there's, there's six or seven that had two, seven that had at least 2,000 yard receivers.


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[Assistant] I'm going to receiver front, uhm, a guy that's not a free agent, I know that, but his name is constantly coming up in trade talks. And I think would look great in a Browns uniform. And not only that, if you put him and David Njoku on the cover of any Browns magazine, it would be the most impressive cover of all time. DK Metcalf. What, how would he fit into a system like this and


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[Assistant] I said yesterday on the show, I talked to an NFL scout who said, I asked him, what's going on with the Browns at wide receiver? He said, they need to go back to the drawing board and reevaluate the attributes that they value at that position because they've missed consistently. And he gave examples on what he said was he named the last three or four that they've drafted and he said,


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[Assistant] They weren't A plus at any single skill set except Schwartz in the speed category. He said everybody else was just mid. So they're obviously seeing something in interviews or in film or at the combine and they're saying, oh, that's it. And they've been wrong with it.


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[Assistant] Look at what the Rams were able to do this year. They climbed out of the bottom end of the talent cycle at warp speed because of it and the Lions.


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[Assistant] I can't think of one. The Giants. The cupboard is bare. But if he does a good job there, I mean. The Giants at least have Barkley.


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[Assistant] By the way, your question bowl is the answer to why Bill Belichick didn't get a job this cycle.


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[Assistant] I'm told that he still wanted general manager control. And look, you gotta know your lane. You gotta know what you're good at. You gotta know your weakness. And he proved his weakness, you know, the last couple of years there.


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[Assistant] So then, and ultimately the way the Bears have to answer this question. I was watching a Monday night game when the Bears were playing or Thursday. It was a prime time exclusive window and the conversation around him was fascinating and I can't remember who said it, but whoever's the analyst for that game said this.


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[Assistant] You can't just be like lukewarm on him. You have to definitively know he's the guy or you have to move on.


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[Assistant] I'm worried for him just because there's no talent.


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[Assistant] I'm saying there's a difference. However, I've seen Quan play for enough to feel very comfortable that if they move him to center field, he's going to be great.


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[Assistant] You know what's underrated about even the guys that we consider to be bad defensive heroes? What is wildly underrated? Tracking of baseball. That, the break that guys get. If you don't get the right break off the bat, you are exposed like that.


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[Assistant] And he gets a late swing on it. It's gonna move away from him.


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[Assistant] No, but in all fairness, and you know this, the one thing that the NFL scouts try to do is to find out that, right, that's the vertebrae of a player. Absolutely. Because a great player will never reach that next level without the work ethic. 100% agree.


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[Assistant] And we are one second into a new week here on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. G. Bush already complaining about his earpiece and Earl, we just learned within the last 30 seconds that G. Bush was the only person in the greater Cleveland area who was unaware that Drake not only performed once in Cleveland this weekend, but he played twice and G. Bush, you had no idea.


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[Assistant] I'm not a fan of stadium concerts in general where you're just stuck in a seat. Like if I want to sit down and listen to somebody, I can do it in my car.


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[Assistant] My question, what do you think he does on Sunday though? So he plays a show Saturday night, obviously he, he rents out a club on what, six afterwards, goes out, does his thing, but he doesn't play until eight o'clock on Sunday. What does Drake Sunday in Cleveland look like?


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[Assistant] So this is going to be a crazy week on NOSA The Cleveland Sports Show. Adam LaPul is on vacation in Tampa. Did you guys see the video he sent us from his Airbnb?


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[Assistant] This makes me feel so much better, Ant, when we ask G to send us in answers for stuff, and then you try calling him and he just sends you right to voicemail seven times. Like, I do actually genuinely believe G just doesn't give a fuck. Just has no clue what's going on.


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[Assistant] Jay's off today. He's back later in the week, but he got an extra day off because he was in Arizona and the travel. Jason's an indie for the NFL Combine. We'll check in with him tomorrow or Wednesday. Andrew Berry speaks to the media tomorrow at the Combine. Kevin Stefanski on Wednesday, so we'll react to that. Tyvis is back from the Buckeye cruise. He's in tomorrow, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.


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[Assistant] We'll talk a little bit about how the new NFL salary cap going up exponentially will impact the Browns offseason also.


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[Assistant] Former Brown's legend Michael Dean Perry will make his UCSS debut. We're going to talk about this in overtime, but G Bush has to leave for overtime, so I want real quick before we dive into the calves. Two minutes G, but you saw Cam Newton got in a fight.


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[Assistant] With the TPS crew, I'm not even quite sure exactly what that stands for, at a 7 on 7 tournament in Atlanta. We're gonna talk about it in overtime, so you get two minutes before we move on to the Cavs. Thoughts on someone trying to jump camera?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we'll talk a little bit more about that in overtime. I just want to get G Bush's thoughts because he has to dip for overtime. And before we get to our first topic of the day, you got to read for us.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we're gonna start with the Cavs, guys, and more specifically some comments from Donovan Mitchell after the game on Darius Garland. So the Cavs...


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[Assistant] beat Washington. It was a wins a win. It snaps the second half of the sea did play. He looked like a s dealing with some injury, big shots late in the four lead in half and then ti


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[Assistant] And down the stretch they relied on Darius to be the point man in their offense. And I want to read you guys this quote here.


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[Assistant] From Donovan Mitchell afterwards, Chris Fedor put the article out on Cleveland.com. Check out the full article, but this is a quote and I'm going to read the full quote. This is part of it, but.


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[Assistant] Donovan said after the game, I'm on social media and I feel like people aren't giving Darius the benefit of the doubt. Mitchell told Cleveland.com. I want to speak on that because I think it's bull crap. He did not say crap.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, he is a kid that has proven himself not only to the Cleveland fan base, but this league as well. I think it's, uh, they're ready to rag on a kid for what? One half of a season? I think that's BS. I've been waiting to say that.


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[Assistant] Darius is continuing to find his way. It's been two months and he's slowly getting back to it. At the end of the day, he's going to be there for us understanding that come playoffs come whenever we need him. He knows that he's continuing to build.


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[Assistant] We have all the confidence in the world in him, but the way people have been talking is effing ridiculous. The kid has done a lot here. So much. For it to be devalued all for a few games is complete BS. It's not fair to him.


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[Assistant] He's done so much for us as a team. Before I got here, while I've been here, he's going to get back to his form. The kid is just 24 years old. It's not always easy to figure it out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't want to harp on the contract yet. I want to just focus on what Donovan said. And I think the reasoning behind what he said to Earl's point.


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[Assistant] I think most, I don't want to say all of it, but I think most of the criticism of Darius Garland over the last, what, three weeks now, a month, whatever, he's been back.


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[Assistant] It's pretty valid. I don't think all of it is, but I think for the most part, it's fair to ask a guy of Darius' talent to be a little more consistent and aggressive, especially when


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[Assistant] But what Donovan said last night, and this is why I think it's so important, is he understands that when push comes to shove come playoffs,


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[Assistant] He 100% unquestionably needs Darius Garland to be on his A-game if the Cavaliers are gonna go on any type of run this postseason. Do you guys disagree with that?


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[Assistant] We need the best version of Darius if the Cavs are gonna make any kind of significant noise against the top teams in the East. That's right now. Right now.


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[Assistant] My biggest issue with Darius is it feels like he's not confident in his own game. And he's still working back from injury. I know he's a little...


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[Assistant] He needs to get his full confidence back to come back into the player we saw when he was an all-star point guard.


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[Assistant] And one of the up and coming guys around the league that not just people in Cleveland, but people all across the national landscape were saying, yeah, that guy's next up in terms of the great point guards across the NBA.


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[Assistant] Darius needs his confidence back. How do you do that? Well, you make shots and he made two massive three pointers last night to cut Washington's lead from 94.


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[Assistant] He had a couple key drives late in the game setting up other players, which allowed the Cavs to extend their lead. And it also comes from knowing the best guy in the team has your back. And what he showed last night with those comments is Darius.


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[Assistant] Ignore the outside noise because the guys in the foxhole with you, the guys in this locker room, we believe in what you can do on the court. We believe in what you can bring to this offense, even if it may not be the perfect schematic fit. We know you can't, what you do can't be replicated by anyone else. And to have Donovan come out and say that publicly.


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[Assistant] With the emphatic nature he did. He cursed. Donovan usually doesn't curse in these press conferences. Now, do you remember the 10th game of the season? He said we're playing, that's some BS. He said same thing to Fedor.


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[Assistant] And what happened right after that? Cavs kinda turned it around. When Donovan curses, I'm not saying...


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[Assistant] If that doesn't inject some confidence into Darius, I'm not sure what else can. So I loved it to the...


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[Assistant] 10th most level, whatever the highest exponential value, you could love something from Donovan. I thought it was a perfect leadership move from the cat's best player.


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[Assistant] If you ask, like, Ty Jerome, right, and I know he hasn't played this season, if Ty Jerome put up 18-6 in the game,


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[Assistant] We'd be thrilled, right? That's a great game for Tigerrealm. I was talking to my buddy who works for the Mavs last night. I was like, how'd Luca do on a, on Saturday? He's like, eh, he had an okay game. I'm like, what's that? He's like, eh, he had 32 elected to nine.


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[Assistant] Well, for Lucas standards, that's an okay game. That's a career night for 99.5% of the league.


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[Assistant] Darius Garland, we expect more because we know he can deliver more. And the inconsistency part of Darius, I know he's still working back in, I'm not ready to, uh, you know, sell my Darius stock or anything to that nature yet, but it is fair to say, Darius, we know you can play it on all-star level, especially when Donovan's out.


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[Assistant] We need you to take on a bigger role and be more assertive, be more aggressive, and it's not even the shot attempts. It's the play creation for others as well, potential assists, because the assist numbers could be deceiving. You can make 30 great passes, guys make two shots, you have two assists.


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[Assistant] But it's those potential assists, the ability to get into the pa- into the paint, create for others, create good books for not only yourself, but the George Niengs of the world, the Isaac Okuros, the Max Struces, the Pick and Roll Chemistry with Mobley and Allen.


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[Assistant] That's totally fair, and I do think to your point about consistency, Earl, the only reason we want it more from Darius is we know he has it in him.


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[Assistant] A near triple double, he was two assists shy. George Niang had a couple threes, Max Struth, even though he didn't shoot the ball well. His chemistry with Evan Mobley down the stretch kinda was the catalyst of their fourth quarter run before Darius hit those two threes. How?


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[Assistant] Not enthusiastic, but how good was it to see a couple guys outside of the usuals?


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[Assistant] Step up and be the catalyst in this Cavs run, especially after we saw from Karras the last two games prior, which was not good.


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[Assistant] G, what'd you think about Karras, Niang, Struus, and even Jared Allen to that sense, picking up the slack for the offensive?


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[Assistant] Hey Kyrie, it's a hell of a stretch coming up. They have the Mavericks, the Knicks, and the Celtics in the next eight days. You're gonna find out a lot. And I believe...


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[Assistant] I could be wrong on that, but in the next eight days, I know they play those three teams and then they got Phoenix and Minnesota coming up in two weeks after that. So we're going to learn a lot about these Cleveland Cavaliers in the next few days.


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[Assistant] It's also at home, just so you know. Boston is at home? Yeah, all three of those are at home.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so the two games without Donovan Mitchell after the break were not good offensively for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Another point total against Orlando, 109.


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[Assistant] Looked okay, but the offense looked just completely out of sync and then against Philadelphia on Friday night.


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[Assistant] Uh, 97 points, they should only shot 22-3s or 23s, whatever it was. Which was way down, and in the latest NBA.com MVP ladder,


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell is not currently in the top five. That goes to...


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[Assistant] Luca at 4 and Jason Tatum at 5. And we have a graphic of that. I did it off memory. I hope that's right, Ant. But we have the MVP ladder if we're gonna pull that graphic up. But I'm pretty sure that was the top 5. Donovan was 8th in the last updated MVP ladder.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brunson was in there, Sabonis was in, I'm not sure the exact order, but they do top 5 and then the other guys. So, regardless of who was 6-7.


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[Assistant] And Donovan isn't the MVP favorite right now by any means. Okay, I had that right. That was the right order. But, did the two games he missed...


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[Assistant] Against Orlando and Philadelphia actually strengthened Donovan's chances of catapulting himself into that conversation into the top five of the NBA's MVP race.


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[Assistant] And this is why I just, your last point is why I actually disagree with both of your point, your overall point and your overall point. The MVP in the NBA at some point.


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[Assistant] It shouldn't take any previous playoff experience into consideration. And Jokic won two MVP's before he won a finals. And Janic won an MVP, and maybe two before he won a finals.


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[Assistant] And LeBron won MVPs before he won the finals. I don't think you have to have postseason success.