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[Assistant] The drive was, the drive was phenomenal. It was, it was unreal. Right down the field. Right down the field.


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[Assistant] It was a great game, but I have the two Bengals games at four and five.


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[Assistant] The Bengals game up, the Bengals Chiefs game up, that was a well played game.


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[Assistant] Out there, there are two colossal beings, both forces of nature in their own regard.


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[Assistant] I feel sorry for Kyle Shanahan and Zach Taylor because they are the only two homeless back here. Uh, you know what, for instance, we did our Black Monday podcast. We talked about the possibility that Mike Frable might be fired and I think, uh, the owner really said it all with her


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[Assistant] Last part of the statement there, that as you said, was the part that was omitted from the tweet. And that's that she's saying she picked, we want to have a collaborative thing here.


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[Assistant] Mike Vrabel was clearly frustrated with how the front office was organized, how decisions were being made. We knew that. It was just gonna come down to, could he walk into that office and could they reach an agreement on what made sense going forward? And clearly they couldn't because Vrabel has been fired, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, the one thing about the Carthen stuff is that, look, we don't know what Mike Raible thought that relationship was gonna be, but they've only been together for less than a year. I mean, uh, Carthen was hired in late January, maybe things, the relationship didn't go the way that Raible wanted it to go because he was clearly frustrated.


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[Assistant] When you do look at how this team has played over the past few years, you just mentioned a few of those stats and the big one being that they're 6 and 18 over their final 24 games. But Vrabel.


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[Assistant] Always had this team playing tough. He is going to find a job in an instant. I mean, you look at the season finale, they beat Jacksonville. They knocked the Jags out of the playoffs. Jacksonville had to win that game. Tennessee had nothing to play for.


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[Assistant] Tennessee still wins and you look at the whole month of December. They beat the Dolphins. They should have beaten the Texans. They were beating Case Keenum 13 to nothing and somehow blew that lead. Should have beaten the Seahawks but lost on a touchdown pass with under a minute left.


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[Assistant] So we're talking about a team and, uh, right before Thanksgiving or right after Thanksgiving, that overtime loss to the Colts. So this team was literally about five plays away from being nine and eight. And so it's interesting that this change is happening because as you said,


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[Assistant] Vrabel has a very distinct identity when it comes to how he wants to win, which is defense and physical football. And that is what this team is designed for right now. So if you are a coach who comes in and wants to spread things out and play finesse, like the Dolphins or the 49ers, you're going to have to rebuild this team because that's not what this team is built for right now.


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[Assistant] But to that point, Brinton, that was going to be my ultimate point here is this is why I do think they went their separate ways because there's such a monster rebuild coming that you have to be on the same page personnel wise with the general manager and with anyone else in that front office. And if you know you are doing this monstrous rebuild and you don't agree with their philosophy or anything else they're doing,


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I think it's interesting that the Titans didn't look into trading variable because I think he's going to get a job this offseason. I think he will be a head coach and we'll talk about that in a second in the most logical landing spot. But I absolutely do think he'll be a head coach in 2024. Uh, but I think we have Diana Rossini reporting that the Titans thought it was too complicated.


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[Assistant] Which doesn't surprise me, because I think Rabel would have been perfectly happy staying in Tennessee if they had, uh, kind of listened to his request, but they didn't, and now here we are.


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[Assistant] No, I think it sounds like this was at him or me, like you gotta make the choice because this relationship's not going to work going forward, so we might as well just sever it now.


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[Assistant] You have two opposite philosophies when you're trying to rebuild. You know, if, if Karthen and Brayboy are butting heads going to the draft, butting heads going to pre-agency when you have to make all these moves this offseason, as we already mentioned, Derek Henry, Ryan Tenno, you've all these guys probably leaving and you have to find replacements and you don't agree with how to build a team. That's a problem. So I just think it became as simple as.


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[Assistant] We're not on the same page, this is a huge offseason, so bye.


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[Assistant] That's what I feel like. That's what the picture paints itself, I feel. But I'm not a painter.


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[Assistant] I would, if I'm variable, there are two teams I'm staring at that I'd be very interested in. Number one is the Patriots, but he, that's something I don't think he's even going to talk about. And I think he has too much, too much respect for Robert Kraft that, you know, people are texting him saying, Hey, are you going to go to New England? He's not even going to answer them until that situation resolves itself.


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[Assistant] And, but I do think this actually puts the ball more in Robert Kraft's court because say he was starting to lean toward, say he was 40-60 for keeping Belichick.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, you talk to them on Monday, they had that meeting, we don't know what happened, and Belichick says, hey, what if I bring back Josh McDaniels, we saw that report, and what if I do this, this, and this, and now Belichick's, or now Kraft is 50-50.


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[Assistant] Well, now Wrabel's out there, and I think he is a very logical replacement. He knows the Patriot way. He's almost, he runs the same philosophy as Belichick in the sense that defensive football, physical football, uhm,


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[Assistant] I think Brable makes a lot of sense in New England and I also think the Chargers would make a ton of sense because Brable has never had a franchise quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I think he could instantly make that defense better. You put them in LA and Justin Herbert actually has a good defense. And yeah, the, the negative 70 or 80 million dollar cap space, not ideal. Uh, but I think if I'm variable, those would be my two choices. What about Atlanta for variable?


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[Assistant] If I'm Arthur Blank, again, I just want to win, and if I think Grable's the best coach on the market, I'm hiring him, and right now, he's- Grable is the best coach on the market right now. Unless you throw in a Jim Harbaugh, you know, unless you were going- Jim Harbaugh and Belichick are not on the market right now.


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[Assistant] If they could get a quarterback in there, they could put almost any coach in there and win the NFC South, but you throw in Vrabel and that makes them an even better candidate. I think the crazy wild card candidate is, could you imagine, uh,


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[Assistant] Raiders minority owner, Tom Brady calling up his old teammate.


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[Assistant] He's saying, Hey Mike, we got a spot out here for you if you want it. Uh, and I don't think Brady's been officially approved, but that's still lingering. He's still kind of with the Raiders and he is an ex teammate of Rables.


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[Assistant] Let me throw Vrabel real quick. I just want to point out what he did. This is the guy who led the Titans to the AFC title game.


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[Assistant] In 2019, had a double digit lead on the Chiefs in that game, uh, before Kansas City came back and won. With Ryan Tannehill as his quarterback, he led the Titans to the number one seed in 2021 and then lost a three point game to the Bengals that they only lost because Ryan Tannehill threw three interceptions. I mean,


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[Assistant] With that roster, they were the best team, the best seed in the AFC in 2021, which blows my mind.


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[Assistant] Uh, it is just crazy, went to the playoffs three times. And even last year, we, seven and ten, they were seven and three at one point before Tanhill started dealing with his injuries.


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[Assistant] And the season kind of fell apart. So I don't think he really had an ugly span, even though we just did mention struggling in those 24 games. But man, Bray will crush it in Tennessee. It's not easy place to win. I think he'll crush it wherever he goes next.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. I think that's, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's how we want to build his team.


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[Assistant] He's, he's selling, uh, Amy Adams' trunk. Look what's going on in San Francisco. Let's look what's going on in Miami. These guys are building a team. So I want to build it and that's how you win. And you know, that is not how variable does it. So, uh, yeah, I think that somebody out of the Kyle Shanahan tree makes the most sense. So I absolutely, Frank Smith has to be in there. I doubt.


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[Assistant] We see them hire a defensive coach just because that was Brable and, uh, Karthon clearly not on the same page with that. So I think it will most likely be an offensive guy.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we've mentioned a lot of these guys over the past 24 hours on our Black Monday podcast. You know, Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowing, Todd Monkin, maybe you steal him.


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[Assistant] From the Ravens, there's just a bunch of offensive guys out there, uh, and it feels like that's who the Titans will start looking at, but who knows? Maybe somebody kills an interview and they hire them, but I think it's an offensive guy.


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[Assistant] You don't even know who your quarterback is going to be because it will have us do enough to prove anything. You give will have us another year. Are you looking to free agency? I mean, this team has so many questions to answer, uh, that it's my boy. It's not going to be easy. There is, there's just.


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[Assistant] I mean, you hit the nail on the head, when you said this is the second least most attractive job ahead of only the Panthers.


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[Assistant] The flip side of that is if you are, if you do take this job, I would say this is an upside, is that you know you are not getting fired after the first year. I think this is one of those jobs where the owner will, this isn't taking a job with David Tepper where you could be fired 12 weeks into your first season.


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[Assistant] If you get hired here, I think you're gonna get at least three years. I don't think they're gonna have high expectations in year one.


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[Assistant] Whatever you do in year one, expectations will go up a little in year two. And then by year three, they'll say, all right, get us to the playoffs. So I do think that is the upside. There'll be no quick trigger and that you will get to be a part of an actual building of a team, which doesn't happen a lot nowadays.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he qualified that he's had a front row seat to a Kyle Shanahan's doing and he could find an offensive coordinator who could run that type of offense. But if that offense is successful, you're going to lose that OC in one or two seasons and he's going to be head coach, so.


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[Assistant] Mike Munchik, like there's just, Jeff Fisher is the ultimate non-sexy name. Sorry, Jeff. You were a great coach sometimes. Went to a Superbowl.


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[Assistant] But he, you know, he's the punchline, punchline for going eight and eight. So that's right. It's, it's just, this is not an organization that makes splashy hires.


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[Assistant] It does, and I cannot imagine, if you're Bobby Slowick, do you want to leave CJ Stroud and a team that's totally on the upside to take an inter-division job where the Texans are probably going to beat up on you for the next at least two years? So I'm not sure, but I think Frank Smith makes more sense.


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[Assistant] Well, actually, I guess ProfShorts is the lead, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Somebody says, I did not, somebody comments that I just woke up from a nap. That's not true. I am extremely flustered.


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[Assistant] And very tired, but I did not take a nap. I wish I took a nap. Uh, yeah, four to baby. Let's go above 500. Close.


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[Assistant] Uh, what am I, oh yeaah, uhm, I'm actually, I'm so flustered I don't even look at the rundown. Uhm, why don't you just go ahead and keep introducing?


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[Assistant] Yeah. It looks like Marlon Humphrey is going to play in this game or is it like trending towards playing? And that's a pretty massive deal because when you think about what the chiefs do really, really well, right? I mean, it's Russia, Russia, rice, uh, props boy and Travis Kelsey, who are the receiving options and you need those guys like


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[Assistant] You need those guys to be able to move the ball in the air. And I think if Humphrey plays, you plop him on rice and then you can have these linebackers, you know, maybe bracket Kelsey with a safety, but you have, you know,


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[Assistant] These linebackers were just so dynamic in terms of their lateral like movement and their, and their speed. I mean, broke one Smith is, I mean, he's really more.


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[Assistant] You know, in like 25 years ago, it would have been a safety. I mean, and so I think that.


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[Assistant] I like, you know, I like, I like the Ravens in this spot. It's not the against the spread pick that I've got because I've got one for the next game. But if I was, if we were taking all the games against the spread, the Ravens would be one of my bets here. I'm going to take the over in this game. I think Baltimore will be able to move the football.


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[Assistant] So low total 44 and a half for a chiefs and Ravens, you know, two teams that,


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[Assistant] Are really explosive on offense. I think Baltimore will be able to move the football and by extension, you're going to have the chiefs forced to kind of toss the ball around a little bit more as well. And we see the total go, uh, over four. Oh yeah, I'm going to, um,


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[Assistant] Katie has 64 and a half I saw 63 and a half for Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] If you'd like the undergo to fatal. Yeah. Uh, we're not bound by.


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[Assistant] At 63 and a half, so I will take 63 and a half. That's a much better line than 66 and a half, clearly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Lamar Jackson over. He's activating his legs, bulbs, you know, I would be shocked if this is a complete blowout.


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[Assistant] Um, which means that, you know, he's going to be running the ball, uh, frequently. You know, they do this stuff where they, they, they screwed him around the end around, uh, scoot around the end instead of like the tush push. It's a dead, it's like a deadlier third down converter than, than hurts up the middle anyway. Uh, and I think we see Lamar scrambling plenty here. Uh, prop stars, what do you like?


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[Assistant] We'll come back, the NFC side of things, next!


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[Assistant] Uh, 49ers hosting the Detroit Lions. We have six and a half on the other seven.


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[Assistant] Like scumbag for, for like trying to sneak by with a seven here and seven, seven and a half. Um, obviously if you can get six and a half, that's a substantially better line than seven or seven and a half. Um, but I think it is seven, uh, 50 and a half total. What's that?


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[Assistant] Um, total on Fandle Niners minus seven. Sweet. Give me the Niners minus the seven. I think they're going to.


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[Assistant] I love the Lions. I love Dan Campbell. I love Jared Goff. I love Amarantse Brown. I love Sam Laporta. I love Aline McNeil. I love a lot of things about this Detroit Lions team. I love the city of, I don't actually don't really, Detroit's fine.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take the Niners. I think similar situation to the first game we talked about and RJ sort of mentioned how.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Ravens are a class above everybody else.


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[Assistant] I agree with that by the way, they're historically great in terms of DVO a, and I think they're being underrated a bit. I think the Niners probably a class above everybody else in the NFC too. And that's going to show up here in a big way. You know, we're Jerry golf's going outdoors. This is a team that hadn't, I think they've been outdoors once since like the middle of October.


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[Assistant] And that was against the bears and I believe they lost that game or barely won that game.


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[Assistant] 28, 13 loss, Jared Goss. Awesome. He can play wherever he's been in these big moments, but, um, I'm going to take the Niners minus seven here as my against the spread bet. I also have a somewhat correlated, I suppose, but, um, Jamar Gibbs over 21 and a half receiving yards.


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[Assistant] I think when they're trailing in those situations, they get him involved in that passing game. She's your golf, dump it off a bunch of he's getting pressured. And I think we see a lot of catches for the rookie receiver. He gets over that 21 and a half pretty easily. And by the way, I should have mentioned this. Uh, my home's over one and a half passing touchdown. There's my passing problem that I've had to give out during the first segment. Sorry. Uh, RJ, your thoughts on this matchup.


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[Assistant] Producer Noah, who, no, he's not producing this show, but produces for HQ, uhm, is haranguing me to get my pics in for my 4pm spotlight appearance, which is after this pod. He is, he is nuts.


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[Assistant] Exactly. He's been haranguing me for like two hours. I'm like, dude, I don't even have my picture of the pot. I don't even have my picture written up. Like, I'm just tired, okay? Leave me alone. Had to stand up too late. Stand up too late last night.


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[Assistant] And it's like, if the Niners lose to the Lions, you lose the bet, right? Correct. That is ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Should I try and sneak? Uh, so I'm trying to get, I'm like two games below 500 on my, um, the whole thing. Yeah. The whole thing is me climbing up the stupid mountain with no, which either way you guys.


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[Assistant] And it's like when I can do good, it's like, yay, when I do bad, they like flip my thumbs upside down. Should I see if I can sneak a CMC anytime touchdown past him?


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[Assistant] Limited in practice on Thursday, which is a good time for him.


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[Assistant] I like the Lamar over rushing yards numbers obviously up there. Um, by the way, I should note my wild card pick isn't from this game. It's, um, I kind of wanted to go the other way, but I thought the number was interesting and worth the discussion. Largest lead of the game, 16 and a half and it's minus one 15 on both sides. That's interesting. That's a big number.


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[Assistant] Is 70 points a lot of points to be leading by. I took the under because I think it would be closer, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And one interesting thing too, we talked about this for like several weeks now, but worth noting with the lions, Dan Campbell is aggressive as hell.


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[Assistant] And we'll go for it on fourth, like fourth and three from his own 20 yard line in the first quarter. He does not care.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's going to be aggressive, like he's going to maintain that aggressiveness no matter what. And that does create more variance for an underdog. Um, as well as, you know, like if he go, let's say the lions, let's say the.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 49er score, touchdown on the first drive, get a stop, kick a field goal, Dan Campbell goes forward and like fourth and three, you get to 17 pretty quickly. Like, you know, you could, you could see the Niners get up to 17 pretty quickly. I think, um, just because of that, that aggression.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, before we take a break, I should note that, um, pretty cool to, uh, don't see this often.


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[Assistant] But we got a Pixix podcast got mentioned in the old CBS Sports Super Bowl press release. How about that?


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[Assistant] We will be live from Las Vegas, Tuesday through Thursday, eight to nine PM Eastern time. Late from the fountains. Can't wait. Katie mocks not mentioned with the podcast because you were mentioned with.


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[Assistant] I know, I know, you're in, you're higher in the press release.


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[Assistant] That's a good one. Sadly accurate. All right, let's take a break. And when we go, oh wait, Katie's actually in here twice.


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[Assistant] Sunday, the AFC championship presented by Intuit Turbo Taxons on CBS. Defending champion, Kansas City Chiefs go on the road once again to face top seed Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens with a trip to Super Bowl 58 on the line. We'll get you set for kickoff at one Eastern with a special two hour edition of the NFL today. The AFC championship presented by Intuit.


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[Assistant] Sunday on CBS streaming on Paramount Plus. All right. Pick six podcast parlay next.


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[Assistant] We're both like, I mean all over the lines, you know, it says playoff lines off in our, but just ridiculous. Like that Niners Packers game should have gone way over.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, yeaah, there are only four.


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[Assistant] I'm worried Alex is going to take the lions and we all like the Niners. Do we all like the Niners?


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, I'll take the Niners minus seven.


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[Assistant] This is just something you usually haven't even, I bet you, I mean, like you've obviously thought about it because it's like, you know, you talk about there's two games and we talk about these, but like, I feel like that's not, this total is not on your radar whatsoever.


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[Assistant] Favourites in the under. Favourites in the unders.


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[Assistant] I think too that like, I really do think there's a.


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[Assistant] If both of these favorites win, that the games go way under.


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[Assistant] You know, we, I mean, I don't know, like, not to rehash it, but it's just like, the Chiefs...


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[Assistant] I've got a, um, couple, uh, I got a couple underdog, um,


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[Assistant] Thanks, dude. Uh, all right. So the podcast parlay nine to one.


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[Assistant] Niners minus seven, Niners under 51 and a half, Ravens minus three and a half, Ravens under 44 and a half. You know what you could do is do a round robin parlay.


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[Assistant] And hope that because we've actually been like, I think we've been good about the parlay. It just has it like we've missed by like one leg almost every single week.


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[Assistant] That's right. This pick six parlay segment has been brought to you by fan dual sports book. Make every moment.


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[Assistant] I'll recap mine. I have the 49ers minus seven, the Baltimore, Kansas City over 44 and a half, which I don't really love. Patrick Mahomes over one and a half passing touchdowns.


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[Assistant] So like minus 130, I think Lamar Jackson took all overs Lamar Jackson over 63 and a half rushing yards. Tomorrow Gibbs over 21 and a half receiving yards and my wild card prop wild card largest lead of the game under 16 and a half.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports, NFL podcast. I'm your host. We got a bowl prediction show today. Joining us to give out proclamations. Pete Prisco, John breach. What's up fellas? What's going on? You're like a less bald Wilson.


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[Assistant] You know, it's crazy. It was the best week in sports. You know, it's crazy. Excuse me. That's my third there. Um, there was only one good game.


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[Assistant] Stretch of, uh, stretch of football this weekend. By the way, this pie, this episode of the pick six is brought to you by Fandel sports book. Make every moment more for great games up on Fandel right now that you can wager on for the divisional round. Uh, but two of them, at least actually three of them almost takes a full touchdown spread. Do you think we'll be in for good football this weekend?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the thing is we had three upsets because the Texans were dogs at home, beat the Browns, Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Was major, right? For sure. But then obviously the box beating the eagles. I think the difference is, well, yeah, right. But I mean, there were still like upsets, but the difference was, is like watching the cowboy, it like wasn't exciting outside of Rams and lions, but like watching the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Just collapse, like melt down like that and watching the Eagles just get destroyed. It was very and watching CJ Stroud play well and Joe Flacker with the back to back pick six is like it wasn't thrilling, but it was. It was entertaining the whole weekend, I think.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Breach, by the way, Eagle, at this, at one point this year, I saw this tweet, uhm, this is basically looking at the records, but it's kind of amazing to Pete's point.


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[Assistant] The Eagles were 10 and 1, the Dolphins were 9 and 3, the Cowboys were 10 and 3, while the Texans were 3 and 4, the Bucks were 4 and 7, and the Packers were 3 and 6. I mean, just insane that the, the three teams with those losing records are still alive and the three teams.


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[Assistant] They got to those huge winning records. You know, I mean, we're talking 29 and seven combined for the Eagles, Dolphins and Cowboys, and they're all headed to Bermuda.


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[Assistant] This, this year in particularly survival tests with all the backup quarterbacks, uh, it's pretty fascinating though, that one of Baker Mayfield, Brock Purdy, Jared golf or Jordan love is going to start the super bowl. It's pretty wild.


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[Assistant] That's another bold prediction. Alright, let's recap last week's bold predictions. Gotta say.


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[Assistant] Relative to like bold predictions, uh, we start with the Browns of the Texans where you said Joe Flacco would go off.


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[Assistant] Shout out to producer Harry with the excellent graphical time machine work. Not a great job there. Flacker did throw for 307, one touchdown and two interceptions. Both of those interceptions were for touchdowns. So he did throw three touchdowns, Pete. I think it counts.


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[Assistant] Was there somebody who went for, went for it on instead of kicking when they were down?


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[Assistant] If you have your timeouts or a timeout in the two minute warning, that's fine. Well, you had a timeout in the two minute warning.


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[Assistant] Also, when you give it back to Dan Campbell, you can't be expecting them to run the ball a couple of times, but nevertheless.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, the insane, it was the peacock was the number one app in the app store. Um, on like, like not sports, all apps, uh, which is pretty good. This is the future. Um, I would expect we'll probably see one on, I try to tell people that.


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[Assistant] Sheesh and bills is only on Paramount Plus. They didn't like that. Uhm, but yeah, you were right about the weather. That's all everybody talks about, Pete.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you kept up the accurate, you're more accurate than a weatherman with your Packers and Cowboys prediction.


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[Assistant] Pete, what's a bold prediction for Packers and Cowboys?


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[Assistant] I know it was 675. That is insane. What a game for those two quarterbacks. Dak was not creating the game, but he ended up having the volume to get there. He had a lot of garbage time. Yeah. Uh, Jordan love was tremendous in that game. I mean, what? I mean, it's wild to think that


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[Assistant] Mike was, do Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy coach, when he come in with Rogers and he coached fire, he coached fire one year, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, like the coach and the cowboys, the coach, like this is how long the Packers have had good quarterbacking.


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[Assistant] Did Adam Schein, did Adam Schein see you coming? No, he, he, he blistered the cat.


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[Assistant] Everything at stake here, Pete, what's your bold prediction for Rams at lions?


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[Assistant] And that then that's how you get to the 60 plus points. So that game could have easily gone over. I think if it had gone over the Rams would have won too, which means it would have been scored. It was an awesome game. Like I don't, I don't, um.


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[Assistant] I'm pumped for Jerry golf. I'm pumped for the Lions. You know, I'm Matthew Stafford love, but I'm still, um.


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[Assistant] I think great game. I mean, his hand got wrecked. He still played awesome in golf.


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[Assistant] He went 22 of 39 for two 29, two touchdowns in a pick.


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[Assistant] They, they, I'm not, I'll have to look it up, but they definitely showed something, a stat where he was like kind of close to whatever number you had on there. Like at some point.


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[Assistant] I was looking to see if we had a, he went five of eight in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] And then in the fourth quarter, Mason Rudolph went nine to 15 for 68 yards in a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So the meat, the meat, the meat of the meat of the meat of his performance came on, uh, in that fourth quarter in some bit of a garbage time. All right. Finally.


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[Assistant] Well, this is, and nobody's questioned that Baker was awesome. Jalen Hurts is bad. Baker's playing. You think Baker can win a Superbowl?


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[Assistant] Do you, uh, real quickly before we get to your bowl predictions for this week?


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[Assistant] We talked about this last night, but in the night before.


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[Assistant] Do you think either and, or both of the Cowboys and Eagles change out their head coach?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, although, I mean, Doug Peterson got fired, what, three years after winning his?


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[Assistant] And I said this last night or I said this maybe two nights ago, but you know, Mike McCarthy, a little bit of a victim of the Eagles failure. I don't think that, but I don't know that we're having this discussion. If you know, the Cowboys don't win the division and then lose the game at home, you know, like you go to the,


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[Assistant] By the Eagles still us. So it's all full circle. Okay. Let's let's take a break when we come back. Pete's bold predictions for the divisional round next.


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[Assistant] Great stat here from, I believe our research department that Harry producer, Harry got into the rundown. There are eight teams remaining.


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[Assistant] Eight quarterbacks remaining, starting quarterbacks. Seven of those starting quarterbacks, Pete, our former first round picks.


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[Assistant] That's right. And the, and the bills are the 10th team. They traded with the, uh, they traded with the bills. Uh, Jordan love. He was 20.


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[Assistant] And then do you know what number pick the final quarterback was? No.


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[Assistant] No, the, um, there's definitely been, we're definitely still in the sort of mid range stages of this turnover of like a legendary group of quarterbacks who all sort of stepped away and now these guys are taking over. Who's your best divisional round quarterback?


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[Assistant] You pick one division around quarterback right now, obviously like, you know, my home. I mean, Lamar's the MVP.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uh, who's going to have the best performance this weekend? I'll say, I will actually amend my total of our Jackson.


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[Assistant] Okay, well let's, let's get to Pete's bold predictions in because that sounds like you might have a big boy coming for, uh, for the 49ers.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got the bills over the 49ers. All right. We'll start with the Texas.


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[Assistant] Texas Ravens will start their first game on the slate. Give me a bold prediction Pete for the Texans and CJ Stroud, the rookie quarterback. What is Don dominated his first start heading to face off against LeBar Jackson.


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[Assistant] That is a ton of yardage for, uh, it means Lamar Jackson is slinging it.


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[Assistant] So let's see, for last week we gave Pete just for reference breach, uh, when he said 650 yards from Packers Cowboys, we gave him, I gave him a B plus, you gave him an A minus.


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[Assistant] So this is a lower number, but I think it's a more difficult game to project a ton of passing yards than the Cowboys and the Packers, which we kind of neglected it. So I will just, I'll stand back and say B plus.


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[Assistant] Uh, set up to be very, very cold. High of 27 on Sunday in...


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[Assistant] That would be insane if the Packers took down the 49ers in the divisional round the first year after Aaron Rodgers leaves.


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[Assistant] I mean, CBS executives would be pulling for the Packers, obviously, to get to the Super Bowl in that situation.


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[Assistant] And I think because this is, you know, NFC North rivalry. And then I think CBS would be happy with either Lions or Packers coming out of there, right?


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[Assistant] Kelly Stafford said that, or ML football or one of those aggregators tweeted that Kelly Stafford claims they were booing her kids. Stop it. Stop.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't think he was happy. I think he wa- I think he thought he could win another Super Bowl. Uh, Breech, do you have a grade for Pete's, uh, upset package? Oh, that's an A+. Okay, cool.


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[Assistant] I would give it an A minus. That's a, that, I mean, Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield lighting up the scoreboard for six passing touchdowns would be substantial. That would be fun.


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[Assistant] I think that's doable because the way that you attack both of these defenses is through the air.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, find me a better one. Chiefs at bills. Uh, it's, I don't know what version this is. They played each of the last three seasons. I think of the regular season. I've met plenty of times in the playoffs, Patrick Mahomes, first road playoff game Pete.


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[Assistant] Um, I saw, I think it was a friend of the program printed real life, uh, Greg Rosenthal noted on Twitter. That's the Dalton Kincaid top 10.


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[Assistant] Receiving yards for a rookie tight end in NFL history this year. 673.


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[Assistant] Maybe, unless he was talking about catches, whatever it was, and he didn't start the first five weeks of the season.


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[Assistant] They said, no, it was, um, it was, uh.


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[Assistant] People, maybe somebody said that they heard he and Taylor Swift were planning on getting engaged. That feels premature.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. Or like Taylor's just like parents. I mean, if he like said something, if he asked permission or something like that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I, I, I believe in true love. So I've always thought it was real, but yes, no, there have been points in time. I even wrote about this too, like during one of my picks columns one week where it was like, okay, every commercial.


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[Assistant] Is either Taylor Swift or Travis Kelsey right now. It feels like this is some kind of marketing scheme. Do you do you think it was?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, very very down to earth dude. Uhm, okay.


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[Assistant] Let's take a break when we come back. We're going to blind rank.


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[Assistant] Divisional games. Just like we did with wild card games. We'll do that next.


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[Assistant] All right. We love our on the spot blind power rankings. We make it up live on air. Pete doesn't know what five things breach and I are going to give him or in what order. We do know it is divisional round matchups, of course. And that means we rank the best divisional round games of all time. Legacies forged hearts broken.


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[Assistant] I guess we're kind of running out of time, so I'll stop that. But you can't win it all unless you win it here. We're going to start, Pete, before Breach and I were born. 1971. Do you know what Gary did?


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[Assistant] The longest game. Chiefs and Dolphins in 71.


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[Assistant] 2017, of course, 2924 Steph Diggs with the walk off from Case Keenum.


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[Assistant] Uh, fourth quarter, 29 total points scored in the fourth quarter of that game. So actually, yeah, over the, the whole game was like 17, nothing Minnesota at half, 17, seven, and then all of a sudden 29 points.


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[Assistant] Um, Marcus Williams, I remember discussing that during the off season, you know, it was like, can you bounce back from that? Uh, and one other fun, uh, fun note about the Minneapolis miracle.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Um, one other fun note is they had to change the extra point rule as a result of Minnesota having to come back out and kick the extra point. Remember they decided if it doesn't matter, if it doesn't count, then you don't have to kick it. All right.


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[Assistant] That's right. Don't kick that extra point! They don't have to kick that! I think, uh, certainly where the spread was on that, but I'm pretty sure that it impacted


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[Assistant] The spread, if I'm not mistaken, hold on, I'll tell you. Roll on, roll on. Okay. Well, you got, you got somewhere to go? Yeah, I got to go. I'm on the, it's got to hard out in one minute. There's Vikings minus five and a half. So it did. It did. It was a, it was a big deal. Okay. Next up.


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[Assistant] Don't have to go far back in the past. Chiefs and the Bills 2021 13 seconds.


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[Assistant] I think we got him. He fell for it. What were you expecting in this?


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[Assistant] 2021 Stafford Tom Brady's Tom Brady, the bomb to Cooper cop to, uh, to, to be. You got me. You got me.


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[Assistant] That'll do it for us. By the way, in that game, 366 yards passing for Matthew Stafford, two touchdowns. He was awesome. Hall of hammer. You're troll of hammer. Oh, stop it. All right. That'll do it for us.


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[Assistant] Pete is always hairy in the chat. I got him. Thanks for joining us. Always a pleasure. Tuesdays with Pete. It's basically like Tuesdays with Maury or breach or Pete. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Throughout his entire tenure, he's been the inside linebackers coach, linebackers coach, but over the last few years, de facto defensive coordinator under Bill Belichick, he has been very


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[Assistant] It happened with Patricia, it happened with, you know, it happened with Josh McDaniel. Go down the list. It's happened all the time. Charlie Weiss. Yup, exactly. It doesn't mean that the responsibilities of the defensive coordinator were not on his shoulders, which they were. And I'm excited about this, this hiring for a couple of different reasons.


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[Assistant] One, I think that heaping continuity in the organization is important, or at least try.


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[Assistant] As much as you want to say, okay, let's rip it up. It was, you know, Belichick, his voice went hollow. It's time to move on. Okay. You can make those arguments, but there's still a culture.


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[Assistant] That's been intact here for the last 20 some odd years that you should at least try to salvage and try to bring in. So whether it was Mike Vrabel or Gerard Mayo.


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[Assistant] I was very interested to keep that culture intact, to just see what a new voice would do to that culture and bring some kind of new blood and new life to it. So ultimately I like it from that regard. I like it because I think Jared Mayo is a fantastic coach and I think he's a great leader.


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[Assistant] Everything that anybody says about him is great guy, great leader, smart, knows the game.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty confident in his in-game capabilities. I'm confident in his defensive capabilities, whether or not he keeps the defensive play calling deuters or not, that remains to be seen.


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[Assistant] The big question that I have and we'll get into it is the offense.


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[Assistant] Is it Bill O'Brien running the show, staying as offensive coordinator? Are they bringing in an entirely new staff? How does he view Mac Jones and how he was treated this year? How does he view Bailey Zappi? What are they going to do with the number three overall pick? All of these questions on offense are now going to start to be asked. And that to me is the number one concern throughout the offseason.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, when you go through New England defenses over this dynasty under Belichick and Brady,


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[Assistant] A lot of times you point to the cornerbacks, it's like, okay, it was Ty Law, Darrell Reaver, Stefan Gilmore. You know, the 24s, they all wore that number, you kind of hold that there. But the middle linebackers were the real leaders of that defense. Go down the line, whether it's Raible, Bruski,


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[Assistant] Huge, huge run of success that they had with those players and naturally, you gotta be smart to hold that position and build Belichick defense to have that green dot to call the defensive plays out on the field.


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[Assistant] And that was Mayo's job throughout his tenure and was, it's funny, you know, he's kind of, he's got a whole new chapter in his Patriots history, but.


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[Assistant] 2015 where they, I think he won one Super Bowl, right? He won one Super Bowl. It was the Seahawk Super Bowl, but he was injured that year. So he didn't, you know, he, yes, gets the ring and all of that. But even as a head coach, he came in in 2019, missed out on the, all that next three titles.


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[Assistant] It's possible that he has a chance to have a more successful tenure as a head coach than he did as a player, and that's still a high bar.


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[Assistant] NFL media pointed out, like late last night, I think JJ confirmed it as well. Yep.


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[Assistant] The reason why they were able to make this hiring so quickly is because they put it in his contract. You gotta go and remember last year.


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[Assistant] They came out with an unprecedented statement after missing the playoffs a year ago saying that they were going to look for offensive coordinator candidates and they were in deep discussions with Jordan Mayo to stay with the organization with contract extensions. They didn't even announce the contract extension. They just said they were deep in negotiations.


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[Assistant] With Mayo, ultimately ended up staying, decided not to interview for head coaching positions and in that contract.


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[Assistant] They said explicitly that he was a head coach in waiting to Bill Belichick, and they filed that with the league and under league rules. If you do that, you don't have to go through the Rooney rule or any other normal hiring procedures. You can just do what the New England Patriots just did this morning and effectively just push him.


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[Assistant] Really has not had a lot of head coaching experience. I, and especially this is where I would have a lot of concern going forward.


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[Assistant] As we mentioned yesterday, they still have to hire a GM. Bill Belichick, you're replacing two jobs.


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[Assistant] You better bring somebody in that's experienced. You cannot lean on Gerard Mayo like you leaned on Bill Belichick as a


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[Assistant] Quasi GM head of football operations in the front office. You can't put all that on a guy. It's not fair whether or not it remains to be seen. That's too much to put on him. You have to find somebody who is capable of running a front office rather effectively.


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[Assistant] I made a Tebow joke. I mean, come on. Tebow joke was hilarious. Unbelievable. If you had told me that Bill Belichick's retirement ceremony, or whatever we want to call this, had more Tebow references than Brady references, I would have thought you were crazy, but- Did they not mention Tom Brady? I don't believe he was mentioned during that portion. Robert Kraft took questions later.


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[Assistant] And was asked in, you know, certainly, you know, his name got brought up because I think somebody asked, you know.


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[Assistant] Was it gonna end with Gerard Mayo? I was kinda leaning that way the whole time. Maybe I'm not that surprised by it because I don't think that they operate


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[Assistant] They say, okay, let's go with Mike Vrabel. They can maybe have that conversation thinking he might be, but clearly as we're kind of learning that they put all this stuff in his contract, it was always going to be Mayo and they were pretty firm on that.


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[Assistant] This is what I was, was going to be interested in after we learned that they were parting ways. The Patriots and Bill Belichick was who was going to get hired first. And if it was going to be a head coach.


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[Assistant] Does this make the Patriots a less desirable landing spot for a GM because you have to be okay with Gerard Mayo being your head coach. And is this the guy that you want to hit your wagon to if you're a first time GM?


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[Assistant] Exactly. And so I'll be curious to see.


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[Assistant] Who the candidates are, I would agree. I think that they are gonna go more patriot-centric. I think Elliot Wolf is someone in-house.


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[Assistant] That makes a lot of sense. Same thing with Matt Groh, even though I think Wolf might have a little bit more of a leg up, has a little bit more outside of the Patriots experience. I believe he was, what was he, was he the GM of the Browns or was he?


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[Assistant] And just a couple other names that I want to throw out there, you know, one that's very popular this cycle and pretty far down the road with the Washington commanders is Adam Peters. He's somebody that at least has some ties to the Patriots organization was


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[Assistant] You know, started out again, certainly not where he is now at the San Francisco 49ers organization, but there's at least some familiarity with Adam Peters, who is a very hot name this hiring cycle. Like I mentioned, you know, a lot of reports point to him being down the road pretty far with the Washington commanders, but he's somebody if I'm Robert Kraft.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to bring in Dave Ziegler is somebody who I actually think.


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[Assistant] You know, talk, I think he was putting the Patriots in the right direction when he started handling the draft a few years ago and certainly obviously helping get a job with the Raiders as GM.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, y-you go through it, the Patriots averaged the lowest points in the lowest yards per game since 1992. It's, it was a- By the Patriots or the NFL? By the Patriots organization.


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[Assistant] But it was a bad year for patriot standards and the question now is how much of that, those issues were


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, 100%, 100%. And I think that that's probably why things got a little uneasy this season. But...


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[Assistant] I'm curious, you know, as we're, as we're looking at this offense, there's just a lot of questions.


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[Assistant] But if it's Mack Jones throwing to a Juju Smith Schuster on one knee, it's just not going to do anything for you.


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[Assistant] And so I'm curious to see what the collaboration is going to be with this new GM and how he views the number three overall pick, how he views, you know, this overall roster. Does he feel like he's a aggressive pursuit of Kirk Cousins and Marvin Harrison Jr. away from competing? I would say probably not, but I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know, I want to see what ultimately they kind of go down in this regard because


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[Assistant] I'm a little bit nervous that they're gonna go too far into the, well we know this person, well we know this person, we've worked with this person before. Okay, that's great, but if they're


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[Assistant] Still having those same patriot tendencies of bringing in players that have low ceilings that are a little bit safer, that's not gonna do you much good.


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[Assistant] But also throw in your new wrinkles, because that's the only way that this thing's gonna work, is if you actually be Gerard Mayon, you don't be.


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[Assistant] And those are all different franchises. Now that you're actually wearing the Patriots logo and you're trying to do all the same stuff, it's just gonna ring hollow. I actually don't believe Mayo's gonna have that much of a problem with it. I don't see him as that guy that tries to be somebody he isn't. So I'm not overly concerned with that. I'm more concerned with the thing that you mentioned.


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[Assistant] He's inexperienced and he hasn't lived a lot of football life or any football life outside of Foxborough. So who are you picking and who are you? Where are your relationships to bring in outside voices specifically on the offensive side of the ball?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I said it this morning that, you know, cause they were asking me about this very question. What do you think they do at number three? Would you be okay with it not being a quarterback? And I would be fine if it wasn't a quarterback because if they view it as they want to bring in Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson and they get Marvin Harrison Jr. Okay, fine. I can't really fault you with that. You know, if you think that you're that close.


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[Assistant] Again, I would have my doubts, but neither here nor there.


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[Assistant] A lot of people look at this and say, oh, well, they're going to go the conservative approach offensive tackle and trade down for a few, for, for a few firsts or a few seconds.


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[Assistant] They could move up. They could stay Pat. This is a totally different organization than it was 24 hours ago. And it could stay the same, but on that note, they also could be this super aggressive team that says, you know what? We're going for broke. We're getting Caleb Williams.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody. Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports, interval podcast. This show is brought to you by fan dual sports book. Make every moment more.


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[Assistant] I'm Will Brinson joined by John breach. Ryan Wilson is doing some kind of draft show sell out. And of course the power ranking practitioner himself, Pete Prisco.


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[Assistant] If you're watching on YouTube, hit that like button, make sure to subscribe. If you're listening to any of the various podcast platforms, give us a five star review. One back of the feed. We have a new year's recap. Uh, new year's Eve, myself, breach and Wilson broke down. Um,


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[Assistant] Almost all of week eight, week 17, excuse me, including the dangerous Texans and CJ shop banging on the playoff door. Let's dive into Pete. We Oh, what's up fellas? How you doing? Happy new year.


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[Assistant] I told, I told somebody on HQ yesterday. I was like, make sure if you see Pete in the hallways at the office on like the 10th to tell him happy new year.


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[Assistant] To drink more alcohol with soda. Right. What was your second one? I don't remember.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, I mean, I don't, I'm not, I'm not huge on resolutions. I think that there's some, there's some value to it if you, if you're specific about it, but a lot of times it can be, I'm going to lose weight.


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[Assistant] Go to the gym more often. And like that's so vague and nebulous that that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


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[Assistant] Well, I, you know, this calls out various media members, so I'm not going to read it, but, um, Rob Pizzola day one of 2024.


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[Assistant] Redacted calls LSU Wisconsin under his favorite bet of the year. Marcus seems heavily against him. Gets smoked.


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[Assistant] Redacted post terrible thread on betting interval incentives in week 18 before market is even open. We're off to an incredible start folks. I mean, look, if that's, if that's, we got some good football yesterday.


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[Assistant] Alabama, Michigan, and uh, Washington, Texas were great football games.


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Um, the, the hardball thing at the end of the, by the way, I think hardball might be doing the Tom Brady secret boycott of ESPN.


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[Assistant] Remember Desmond Howard got mad at Pete Thamel on college game day because Pete Thamel didn't do the reporting in the Michigan crowd. Well, Harbaugh at his post game interview, Holly Rose, like coach, he's like, yes.


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[Assistant] You know, that second half aggression on offense and the big fourth down going for it. What was that? He was like, happy new year everybody. And who's got it better than us? You said it best. Nobody. All right. I'm out of here. What? What is happening here?


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[Assistant] He's, I, I'm a, I'm a man of a hardball fan. I want to, I want to, I hope he wins the national championship and leaves Michigan and comes back to the NFL. What about you? Chargers. He's good.


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[Assistant] And remember what Harbaugh did with the 49ers when he arrived there? Speaking of the 49ers, they're the number one, number two team in your power ranking. The Ravens up to number one. Ravens maintained their number one spot after smacking.


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[Assistant] They locked up the number one seed. Niners have locked up the number one seed in the NFC.


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[Assistant] So you're going to see both those teams going to buy. Do you think we ended up seeing them meet in the postseason in the Superbowl, Pete? No.


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[Assistant] I think the bills went Sunday and yeah, the bill's good. I just think to me, Pete, this is a year where.


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[Assistant] You, you do have, look Lamar Jackson's awesome. He's an elite quarterback. There's no question about it. He's playing great from the pocket. Raven's defense is awesome.


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[Assistant] Um, and I mean, like not, I mean, you know, we were talking about the pop tart bowl mascot. I feel like NC State really got hurt by, not that the pop tart bowl matters, but you know, like.


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[Assistant] It's one of those where having that much time to sit out.


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[Assistant] Assuming, now that the Eagles have left things wide open, you have the Cowboys hosting a seven seed. That could be, that's what, could it be Green Bay or Minnesota? It could be Green Bay. It could be the Rams. Right, could be the Rams. It could be the Vikings.


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[Assistant] They literally have five different teams they could play. But I'm telling you that I know Dallas has been great at home.


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[Assistant] Matthew Stafford or Jordan Love, just because of how hot they can get, can go in there and beat and beat Dallas in Dallas. Now, conversely, I know Matthew Stafford going to join win. Like that game was, we have to get that game. I really want that game.


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[Assistant] And then I think, you know, the Eagles could easily lose in Tampa Bay or in New Orleans. Like that's how poorly they're playing right now. So all of a sudden you could have.


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[Assistant] Total chaos. And you can, that means you could get, let's say the Cowboys went in the two spot and then all of a sudden you've got the Rams going to San Francisco. And I know San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan have owned Sean McVay in the regular season. They did get him in the playoffs. Like, I don't think it'll be a cake walk for, for, for San Francisco by any stretch of the imagination.


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[Assistant] I agree. And it's like, if let's say you run into the number one buzzsaw.


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[Assistant] You can say whatever you want about Lamar Jackson's playoff history. I think he's a different quarterback this year than he has been in years past. I think that offense is different and the defense is great. I think.


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[Assistant] There's more paths to beating San Francisco. If you get, if you're a team that's running hot and you get the 49ers down 14 points.


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[Assistant] I think Brock Bird is in a bad spot. I think Lamar Jackson and the Ravens are capable of coming back from that a little more easily just because of the type of player he is and what he does.


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[Assistant] There's some context to those games though, like the Chargers game, they got caught a white heart Chargers team and Lamar had been inserted midway through the season.


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[Assistant] Well, the excuse there was, and it was whoever gets the double digit lead in this game is going to roll because neither team is built to come back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's been, Lamar's been sacked. He started four games in the playoffs. How many times you think he's been sacked in the playoffs? Four games, four, three, one and three in those games.


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[Assistant] And I'll tell you, I'll tell you this too. I'll tell you this too on the 2019 game. I remember Pete coming on this podcast and saying that Dean Pease.


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[Assistant] And I can't remember exactly why you had this take, but you were like Dean Pease is defense is built to contain this. Oh, because Dean Pease had gone against, um,


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[Assistant] The Kaepernick and the 49ers and basically the same offense with Greg Roman had just, had done a really good job being able to sort of reduce what he was saying.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with that at all. I do think that part of why, one, the offense had stagnated under Greg Roman. But, uh, two, I think this is why they brought in Todd Monkin is that they needed to be able to win in the playoffs by throwing the football.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I understand that. I think that the style of offense and how he's a better, the fact that he's a better quarterback, which he is, gives me much more like a sort of.


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[Assistant] I think it used to be Buffalo and the Rams. Well you picked that before the season so you're sticking to it. I had Buffalo before the Irish season. Oh you did?


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[Assistant] Play this straight up and don't go try to be sneaky with the, you know, so-and-so is eligible and so-and-so is eligible. If you just run the play where you've got Taylor Decker, like you're just like Taylor Decker is eligible, we're not being sneaky. The Lions are still not looking. I mean, the Cowboys are still playing defense against Amran St. Brown and Sam Laporta. Like they're not looking for the linemen.


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[Assistant] How, how, how concerned are you? And look, the guy's got a Superbowl win. He's deserves credit for what he's done in, in, in Dallas this year. I know he's your boy. I'm not, I'm not dragging him. I'm saying Mike McCarthy tends to get conservative in the playoffs. How concerned are you with Mike McCarthy?


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[Assistant] I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Uhm, I, I just, I do think that, I do think that Mike McCarthy by virtue of, uhm,


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[Assistant] But, but because he's just sort of a different approach as a coach. But if you look at some of these losses, like the Saints had those three just insane losses back to back to back, um, to close out Drew Brees's career. And then the Packers had sort of the same thing. There's three insane back to back to back losses, like with Rogers in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] In the next segment, how we're going to show Pete, Pete, you actually haven't seen these. These are our bold predictions from the podcast before the season. And we're going to have you grade how bad our bold predictions were next.


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[Assistant] Or 2024 as Harry put in the chat. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So we did some bowl predictions before the season. Now, Pete, bear in mind, these are, these are not intended to be


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[Assistant] Like they're not intended. You're not, you're not supposed to be right. Okay. Like.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. Well, it would be, I think like Tyree Kill, I don't think anybody has this one, but Tyree Kill.


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[Assistant] Well, we looked them up with the odds. It had to be like 15 to 1 or greater. Alright, go ahead. Okay, so.


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[Assistant] We're going to start, we mentioned the Cowboys before. We're going to start with John.


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[Assistant] Uh, and producer Harry has done some awesome sort of uh, musical work. Pete, I know how you love the harp. Let's hear Breach's first poll prediction.


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[Assistant] Pete, Pete, Pete, Pete, Pete, you're going to, I think we had some stuff we were going to say like, like, oh yeah, you're going to rank smart, stupid or what the hell were you thinking? Uh, based on these.


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[Assistant] Um, I see Dak as a second vote and multiple spots. Wow. Daxie Daxie to end up being like, where is Dak on your ballot right now? Pete? Who's your top five as of today?


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[Assistant] Yeah, let me, Lamar's Lamar's Lamar. He's not gonna be unanimous, but it's gonna be close. It'll be Lamar.


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[Assistant] I don't see how you can have Purdy and CMC in the top five when they're on the same team and one guy's throwing to the other. Yeah, you could have both.


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[Assistant] No, you should have Stafford at the top five. Did you have Tua? Or did he pull himself out?


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[Assistant] Two, I debated between two and CMC for number five. I said my name was Lamar, Stafford, Alan, Dak, and CMC. You have Stafford second? I'm just, nobody else is voting for. I'm just, I'm trying to make this push. I need you to vote for Stafford because


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[Assistant] Do you want to go ahead and go to that? Harry, I don't know if we can go to this one or not, but I'm going to try it. We can throw out one of my bold predictions was that Matthew Stafford would what?


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[Assistant] My bowl prediction is that Matthew Stafford receives at least one MVP vote in 2023.


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[Assistant] The catch here though is that it doesn't have to be a first place vote, just any vote.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, I don't want to make myself look too good. So how about I show you one involving the Atlanta Falcons?


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[Assistant] The Atlanta Falcons will finish with the most wins in the entire NFL. Oh come on.


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[Assistant] No, uh, here's the thought process. They had.


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[Assistant] And it'd be like, I stand by this looking at the schedule after they played the Jaguars in week four, they were two and two and they played their two hardest games the entire year against Detroit and Jacksonville. They beat Houston. They lost to the commanders at home by eight points.


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[Assistant] They lose to the Titans in a one score game. They lose to the Vikings in a one score game. They lose to the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying that they have a bunch of one score games. Arthur Smith has.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach had something to say about Harry's Miami Dolphins in the AFC East.


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[Assistant] You also look like, I think you look like you've lost weight during the football season. You were bulkier then.


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[Assistant] I'm getting on to Zepic for January, so I look okay at the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Wait, are you talking about, you, you currently are, or you were then? Yeah, this past, this past weekend. It's New Year's Eve weekend. I don't think you look ba- I think you just look, you just look very-


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[Assistant] The new stand up specially did is, is good, but it's not like it's a little loo. It feels a little looser, like a little less.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, you shoulda, you shoulda hit up, uh, shoulda told, shoulda gone.


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[Assistant] You know what, wait, do we want to, uh, let's see, we need to get one more here first. Um, that's, oh, breach.


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[Assistant] Reach out a prediction about the AFC South.


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[Assistant] The, the, and this is like, I try to look at these bold predictions too, is like, the premise was that the AFC South is way more wide open.


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[Assistant] Then you think of it like people like it was people the Jags like minus 170 and we got 397 teams going into week 18 in the amc south. It just happens that tennessee went oh and five in the division is not


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[Assistant] But that was my, that was my point about the Falcons too, is like the Falcons were going to be baby Tennessee and just sort of like have these games that were, and that's, that's part of the danger with the fragility when you build your roster that way too. Like you are not guaranteeing yourself.


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[Assistant] Uh, okay, my, the final one for me, which would be a nice springboard into...


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[Assistant] They have an easy schedule, but then, you know, you lose to the Bengals, Browns, Ravens, and Bucks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's true. Offense has been uninspiring to say the least. There've been little stretches and glimpses where, and that's what we talked about this last week where teams that can just get hot. Um, speaking of the Jaguars playing the Superbowl, you don't get off scot-free Pete. Oh no, Harry.


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[Assistant] Oh, no, the Jaguars are still alive to go to the Super Bowl. I should point out the only two predictions here that are totally dead.


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[Assistant] The Charger. Wilson having the Chargers over the Eagles and Breach having the Bengals over the Cowboys. Uhm, it was R-Limited, right? Yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, the only, the only argument where you would take Dubin over me chief server 49ers is the bills aren't in the playoffs yet, right? I mean, like I could mine might be dead on Sunday night too, but yeah, I think, um, having bills over and I don't, I think if the bills get to the Superbowl, they will beat the 49ers. If they play them, I think the bills get to the Superbowl. They're winning the Superbowl like.


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[Assistant] If they're running that hot that they make it that far, I think they're gonna win this.


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[Assistant] When actually, like, Bronkers or Raiders, the Raiders should easily win that game. Yeah?


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[Assistant] Ravens, Ravens, Ravens, Steelers are Ravens, Steelers are four point favorites, but we yet to see Harbaugh having an analysis.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Harry made that point. Harry made that point after the Bradley chub injury, like.


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[Assistant] They host the Chiefs though. Host the Chiefs. God, that is a tough path, man. The AFC is just brutal because...


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[Assistant] Normally you have this situation where, okay, Patrick Mahomes and Andy reader, the one seed we've got to go to arrowhead, but at least we know it's not happening until the conference championship game. And if we get that far, just go in and figure out a way to do it. Now it's like, if you're Buffalo, your reward for getting the two seed is


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[Assistant] So how many franchises would you have that haven't won a super bowl? Jacksonville, Cleveland, Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Like how many have never won one? Is it like, is there?


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[Assistant] What the ticket would cost if it was Cleveland and Detroit? Oh my God. That's what we were talking about this. Do you think that CBS bosses, our bosses like our the big wigs at CBS Sports would be happy or like miffed if it was Cleveland Detroit? No, they want the Cowboys. Are you think so?


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[Assistant] I don't know though, I feel like if it was like those two franchises have lost so much.


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[Assistant] It's like the ultimate loser ball. They just like one of those franchises is coming away with a Super Bowl ring and the other is just left just completely.


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[Assistant] Well on the NFC side of things, you want San Francisco Dallas.


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[Assistant] Wow. That is amazing. I think, um, indie Houston, bad Pittsburgh, Buffalo,


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[Assistant] San Francisco, Dallas, Detroit, all good. Right. I think Detroit in the Super Bowl would be an incredible story.


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[Assistant] But I feel like, I feel like the fact that they haven't won the stakes would be so raised.


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[Assistant] Uh, what's Dallas is one, obviously Green Bay.


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[Assistant] Yes. And Indianapolis isn't that great either. No.


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[Assistant] See, I think Buffalo, I think Buffalo is up there too.


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[Assistant] You can't, it's a, it's a free for all, like not, not just in the, like not, not the fans, it's a free, you know, it's like, like the way Bill's and Lion's fans would behave if they, if their teams got the Super Bowl is how executives would behave if it was Chiefs and Cowboys. All right, Pete's gotta go. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Breach is going to blind rank would be


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[Assistant] NFL competitively, uh, competitive leagues against the NFL or something next. Bye Pete. See ya.


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[Assistant] All right. Historian Harry has come up with, Pete's gone, obviously Breach and Brinton here has come up with a pretty fun one. Blind rankings, upstart football leagues.


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[Assistant] The first one up, the World Football League, founded in 1973, inaugural season, 1974, ceased to exist, 1975. The final champions, the Birmingham Americans, which is quite a name, uh, Gary Davidson,


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[Assistant] Driving force behind the league. He started to help start the ABA, the moderately successful ABA according to Wikipedia, please. ABA was great. ABA joined the NBA, made a bunch of money, I think, but, or maybe not. Either way, the World Football League.


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[Assistant] Did not bring any teams into the NFL. Where would you rank the world football league?


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[Assistant] I think that producer Harry may be onto the idea that it was just going to be you as well and was thinking, all right, breach is going to go three with world football league. Um, next up, any thoughts on the world football league?


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[Assistant] The, uh, teams, yeah, we weren't, uh. I'm glad they named it after the whole world, though. The World Football League! Welcome to the World Football League!


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[Assistant] They had a dickarod instead of the chain gang, according to Harry, which is fascinating.


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[Assistant] Uh, they actually signed, uh, the Toronto Northmen. These names are amazing. Signed Larry Zanka at one point.


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[Assistant] Got it. Uh, at this point NFL did not have free agency either. So that was sort of part of the process. I think. All right. Number two, the X F.


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[Assistant] XFL is a joint venture between the NBC, between NBC and WWE owned subsidiary WWE Properties International. Um, the idea being, you know,


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[Assistant] Eventually, by the way, sold between the Rock Johnson and, but you had the idea of being that it was like a wrestling style league, right? I mean like that was like the whole thing. It was disrupt.


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[Assistant] You need to do an off-season podcast about all these different leagues. Are you XFL number one? Of course the XFL tried to come back.


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[Assistant] The CBS briefly owned by CBS Sports or our TV partner. So I don't think it matters now though. The Alliance of American Football or the AAF founded by Charlie Ebersole and Bill Polian. That's right. William Patrick Polian Jr. The man who claimed he also had a first round grade on Thomas Patrick Edward Brady, the fourth. That's not Tom Brady's real name. Uh, Tom Dundon was actually the guy who shut it down. Tom Dundon, the Carolina Hurricanes owner.


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[Assistant] Was involved in this as well. That's a big cash behind this thing. The AAF filed for chapter seven bankruptcy on April 17th, 2019. Uh, just one, just about a year after they launched in March, 20, 2018, there was a pretty big horror stories about how everything ended. But, um, you know, at a time


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[Assistant] It's crazy to think Breach in like 2019, it was like right before the pandemic, everybody's like, we need more footballing. She's like fired him up. It was like, Oh, that's not great timing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what there? Troy Palamale was involved in this league. JK McKay. You know who it is. Alright, finally. That means your number two team. Well, there's two left, right? Two left. I skipped one. Oh, I did skip one.


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[Assistant] Whoops, here it is. The USFL! Founded in 1982, inaugural season 1983, ceased operations in 1986. There's a common theme about all of these. They don't last very long. Uhm, it's the total opposite of the PGA Tour and Liv. Like Liv comes in with a bunch of money, is able to take it over.


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[Assistant] NFL is very good about quashing out the opposition.


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[Assistant] It feels like if the USL USFL would come around later, like the USFL was the closest one to like getting like actually like actually taking any chunk of the NFL's business breaking through.


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[Assistant] Sure did not. It's hard to build. It's hard to fight the NFL as it turns out.


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[Assistant] Hey, you gotta talk to the AAF on the podcast once a week. Nah, I think I'm fine.


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[Assistant] Good stuff. I feel like, uh, that would have been a good one for Pete. That's okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, Pete is a busy man. We can't always keep him around. He refuses to show up for the third segment of this show. We of course show up every day and we'll be back tomorrow, Thursday with our pick show for week 18. We'll have a recap show on Sunday night.


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[Assistant] And it'll be prepping for the playoffs. You can count on us for playoff recap shows more than you've ever dreamed of or the usual number. That'll do it for us today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. If


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I've gotten it built into a process when I put my, when I put my picks into my story.


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[Assistant] I don't have all, I may need to copy and paste, but I just take whatever the, whatever the blurb is for the story, which by the way, you can read on cbsports.com. I also issue an apology to Brown's fans and sort of talk about the randomness of the full season.


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[Assistant] Very brief breakdown of it, but essentially it's like.


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[Assistant] Brown's friends are like, you loser! You said we'd go 7 and 10! You pathetic idiot! I'm like, yes, I was wrong, but if I told you that Deshaun Watson played,


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[Assistant] No, but if I was like, but if I was like, does Shawn Watson plays poorly, gets hurt and you have to start PJ Walker, Dorian Thompson Robinson both for multiple games and then drag Joe Flacco off of the street and start a fifth quarterback in week 18. Are you telling me that you went 12 and five? Probably not. You're like, dude, seven to 10 sounds great. So I, and interestingly enough, if you lose.


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[Assistant] Food poisoning, food poisoning, food poisoning puts you in first place.


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[Assistant] Separate, are we just going to keep it going for the playoffs or are we going to do a separate?


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[Assistant] We should, we should, we can discuss this offline, but sometimes we've done a game for the playoffs where it's like, you have, uh, a thousand fake dollars to do over the course of the playoffs. Whoever has the most, you can do like parlays, you can do, um, or, you know, you can do props, you can do,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would tend to lean towards the Ravens as well. You're catching the points. It's in Baltimore. You know, John Harbaugh is not playing his starters, but as we, um, sort of alluded to earlier in the week,


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[Assistant] You know, this is not a college roster. You can't just sit everybody. You've got NFL caliber players.


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[Assistant] Going out there every game because they're on NFL rosters and even if they're backups, you want to Pittsburgh Steelers defense has been devastated by injury and an offense that like.


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[Assistant] Shout out Chris Tripaso traps, uh, friend of the pod, of course, or our colleague who wrote like, like I saw a headline on serious sports.com. It's like.


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[Assistant] Behind Mason Rudolph's magical resurgence with a stealer and like.


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[Assistant] I was like, I clicked, I was like, I know who the author is. It was Trabs.


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[Assistant] And this applies across the board for these games in week 18, when you talk about motivation.


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[Assistant] The Steelers were eight and eight and you could give Tomlin his first losing season of his career, but just as, just as much. I think Baltimore will be motivated to play well. I think John Harbaugh will have them execute. I think Tyler Huntley is a.


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[Assistant] You know, we saw, we've seen him in spots in the last few years. He's one of the better backups in the league and he runs a similar, like, I think that this is a good spot for Baltimore as well.


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[Assistant] Yep. We were, we were, we were touting him. Yeah. I mean, for months.


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[Assistant] The Texans at the Colts, a massive, I mean, this is set up so well because you get the Steelers.


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[Assistant] In terms of like Saturday is going to set the stage for Sunday and as far as what we get and what we like, what.


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[Assistant] There's certain things that can happen where Buffalo suddenly could be playing for the playoff lives, um, et cetera, et cetera, but.


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[Assistant] More importantly, Texans are the colts. Only one of these teams can get in!


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[Assistant] And, uh, Alex, you'd like a prop of this one, actually.


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[Assistant] Was, uh, Colts minus one and a half, I think, open and now it's Texans minus one and a half. Do you think that's mostly CJ Stroud related? I see, uh, Texans minus one and a half on Fandle. I mean, I have a hard time. This is, this is, I mean, easily the toughest game.


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[Assistant] On the, on the slate to pick just because both, you know, divisional matchup, second divisional matchup, two teams who are fighting for their playoff lives. Yeah. I think you have really liked two guys who, if it weren't for Kevin Stefanski would be getting some serious coaching that you love and Shane Stikin and D'Amico Ryan's, um, Gordon mentioned he's played pretty well. John and Taylor run the ball well.


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[Assistant] He shredded the Texans in his career, but D'Amico Ryan's, I think this is sort of the factor for me, RJ, D'Amico's ability to completely bottle up Derrick Henry.


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[Assistant] Do you, uhm, if they win the division, they need help from the, uh,


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[Assistant] The Titans, obviously Titan needs to beat the Titans needed. I mean, I think it's pretty, it's obvious, right? Titans. If the Titans beat the Jaguars, the winner of this game wins the division. Now I think it's like 60%.


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[Assistant] So it's like the winner of this, it's like 60 40 rare. I mean the Jaguars are pretty decent favorites. We'll talk about the game in a minute, but I'm with you. I wouldn't tear up the ticket. I think if


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[Assistant] Like D'Amico Ryan just coaches circles around Steichen and the Texans blow out the Colts. You could see, and win the division, you could see them get it. It's, it's just gonna be hard to upend Stavansky, I think.


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[Assistant] Falcons can only make the playoffs by winning the division, I believe, and they need...


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[Assistant] Saints can make the playoffs by Bucks lose, Saints win, Saints win division, but can also make the playoffs if Saints win, uhm,


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[Assistant] And Cardinals beat the Seahawks and the Bears beat the Packers. They would get in as a wild card as the seven seed as well. So the Bears plus three and Cardinals at home plus two and a half. Like that's not that craziest scenario where that could play out. I think, you know,


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[Assistant] Arthur Smith. I heard a micro followed point out that he is on the shakiest of ground in Atlanta. I have a hard time believing that this team is going to show up in a meaningful way. Maybe on defense, I tend to look towards the under in this spot. If I was going to go anything, it would be the saints though. They've


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[Assistant] I don't like the Saints. I don't think they're a well coached team. I don't trust a quarterback, but I trust your quarterback more than I trust the Falcons quarterback and the Falcons coaching staff, RJ.


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[Assistant] Like the paint, remember the Panthers at the ninth overall pick and they felt trading for brush. I mean, they really should have been in the mint. Like this division was open.


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[Assistant] We'll get to them. Browns are the Bengals. Bengals minus seven total here of 37 and a half tilted towards the under a little bit. Browns catching a hair of juice as well. I think we could probably see this come in. I don't know if it'll drop to six and a half. I mean, Bengals have kind of been playing with their backups for a while now. They are


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[Assistant] Officially eliminated from the playoffs at 8 and 8. The Browns have clinched their playoff spot and I believe RJ have nothing to play for here. They're locked into the 5 seed, yea, because the Ravens have the 1 seed. Yea, they're locked into the 5 seed.


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[Assistant] And it's like a little weird. It's sort of like Lamar with the MVP where he's like.


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[Assistant] I'm curious if they said it was Myles Garrett gonna play? Cause he's the favorite right now to win defensive player of the year.


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[Assistant] But it would make more sense to sit in because you want to win the Super Bowl. Do you think you got a chance with January Joe cut me in town and February Blacko? Um, anyway, I would, uh, I would, I would lean towards getting the seven here with Cleveland, I think.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't rule out the idea that Mike Bramble wants revenge for last year in week 18 is all I was thinking. Like, I don't know if he can get it, but it's like the Jags ruined his season by winning, uh, in Jacksonville in week 18. I think he would like to get revenge if it is possible. Can't really run against Jacksonville. So maybe not a great spot for Derek Henry, but uh, Katie, you actually have a best bet with me.


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[Assistant] And, and worth noting that for DFS Draftcase price, Christian Kirkett.


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[Assistant] The, uh, shout out to Leviton, Stone Cold Men, $3,000. So, expect him to be chalky if he plays. Also worth noting, if the Jaguars lose this game, they still have a path, they still have a path to the playoffs. Ravens and Raiders both win.


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[Assistant] And the Jaguars would also get into the playoffs even if they lose.


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[Assistant] Steelers and Ravens obviously on Saturday and then Jaguars tightens at one o'clock. So if the Jaguars, the Steelers lose, the Jaguars lose. All of a sudden it's like, you're going to get like a, you know, a bowl, like a,


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[Assistant] College basketball tournament announcement situation with the, with those teams are sitting in there watching, watching to find out if they got in. Buccaneers minus four and a half at the Panthers total of thirty seven and a half.


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[Assistant] Carolina has been kind of frisky the last couple of weeks, not going to lie. Uh, ever since I proclaimed them dead and they won a game against the, the, the Panther or against the Falcons at home and that rainstorm in front of five people, they've actually been a little frisky, but last week.


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[Assistant] 26, nothing wasn't frisky. Uhm, the owner, the owner friskily threw a, uh, friskily threw a drink onto, uh, their temporary fine, of course, $300,000. I mean, wow. What a, what a, what a massive fine for a man worth $20 billion. Uhm, I digress. Anyway, uh, Katie, you've got a best bet on this game.


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[Assistant] I don't feel like being the reason this, this, this, this, this, uh, partly screwed up. Give me Dallas. I don't care if they're on the road, Washington. Talk about a team that's checked.


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[Assistant] Uh, so now just for clarity, Katie, we've got obviously the Cowboys, Bucks, Baltimore Ravens currently at three to one.


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[Assistant] I think that line is outrageously stinky. To me.


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[Assistant] Stinky, stinky dog. That's right. All right. I love that. All right. This is a get your money back. We finished in the positive parlay for week 18.


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[Assistant] And shout out to, you know, this is, uh, I think fan duel. Oh no, maybe not. Um, Buccaneers minus two 40, the Ravens plus one 16, the double dog, the bears plus one 40 as a four leg parlay that pays out plus eight, seven, seven spicy. Let's.


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[Assistant] Make that happen this week. Reminder, this pick six parlay segment is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more.


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[Assistant] I think you're supposed to set it up, but I got the best bet here and I'll move it along quickly. I love the Patriots. Look, this is in theory Belichick and Kraft are meeting on Monday to discuss Belichick's future. According to reports out there, the total here is three, 30 and a half, 30 and a half. I think it could go down to like 25. There's going to be no points.


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[Assistant] And there's definitely giving me no points for the Jets. This might be, this could be Bill Belichick's swan song in Foxbury's Foxborough finale.


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[Assistant] And he's going against a team that he has destroyed throughout his career. A team he hates, disgusted by the Jets. He quit on them with a cocktail napkin. You think he's gonna let his last game as Patriots head coach


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I mean, like it's, it's definitely going to be some various, by the way, did you see, um, I can't remember who put it out, but I put it in my, my article that I mentioned earlier, the, if you flip all the one score games.


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[Assistant] In other words, like, um, the Browns are six and two in one score games. And then you take, take the result of all their, take the result of all their wins and make them losses and all their losses and make them win. So you're not just giving them all Patriots or a playoff team. I think that is really interesting.


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[Assistant] Because I think if you do think about the Patriots season as a whole, obviously Belichick screwed up.


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[Assistant] And built a bad team with a bad offense and trusted in some dumb things to work out. Bad quarterback, bad play caller, all this stuff, but they'd had really bad luck. Now,


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[Assistant] The Vikings at the lions lions minus three and a half over under 45 and a half. Everybody except me has a best bet. So we'll start with you prop stars. You're going to the Jay Jetta well.