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[Assistant] Uh, you know, hopefully he can get back to where we saw him. Uh, you know, the game where he got injured, he played lights out. It's the best game he had as a Cleveland Brown. So hopefully, you know, once he gets healthy and gets himself back into the swing of practice, he can come in and pick up where he left off after that game.


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[Assistant] You know, and, you know, that's just the way the game is. It's not a knock on Georgia. That's just the way college football is these days. And they're, they're rolling, man. They're hitting on all cylinders, great coaching staff, great players, uh, two time defending national champs. It looks like they're heading for a third one. So it's a great football team.


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[Assistant] And we welcome you to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Welcome to the PCC Outfoils Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show here on WKYC Channel 3. It's the Browns and the Niners.


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[Assistant] 50 hours from now, I'm Jay Crawford. Later in the show, I'll give you my pre-written headline, who wins this game and why.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think I know what that matchup is and it's worth the price of admission. It's two future Hall of Famers going up against one another. Mono a mono, a lot of strength in that matchup. It may have something to do with who wins the game.


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[Assistant] All right, let's start with a bit of breaking news. It came out this morning. It is official. The Browns have now officially ruled out Deshaun Watson for Sunday's game against the 49ers. And guys, that means PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] And I'm not talking about, you know, Walker Texas Ranger.


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[Assistant] I didn't even know what this guy looked like until I saw his picture earlier today. That can be a bit of a problem.


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[Assistant] He's the quarterback. Simply asked, what does he have to do for this team to win?


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[Assistant] I mean, at this point, really, if you start thinking about it, once a team, and we see this with Cleveland, once a team knows what you're gonna do,


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[Assistant] They're halfway to beating you. And they'll, they're gonna know what you're gonna do if it's third and longer than eight. You're gonna have to drop him back. And they're gonna pin their ears back with the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year and Nick Bosa. And they're gonna get after this guy. They're gonna basically say,


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[Assistant] To beat us, you're gonna have to find receivers with men in your face. So pick up the rush as well as you can on the offensive front. I don't have a lot of confidence they can do that. And also obviously the time possession. If they possess the ball 38 minutes,


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[Assistant] To, to San Francisco's 22, there's a chance.


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[Assistant] Quick throws, easy throws. I think in Joku, who we don't know if he'll play or not, initially Mary Kay said this morning, unlikely to play, but the good news is he's practicing right now. We don't know about Petonio either. We don't know about Joel.


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[Assistant] Is this the game where he can re-stamp his offensive genius credentials with a win over this team? Will that kind of cement him as, oh yeah, this guy can do it. I think it's asking


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[Assistant] Here's the problem I have with this, and I've talked about this for the last year and a half on the show. I see flashes of brilliance. I see there's potential to be a genius.


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[Assistant] Cause he has not been a genius for any long stretch in the NFL. But when you look at his record against the Cincinnati Bengals, who have been the yardstick in this division while Stefanski has been here.


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[Assistant] They can't beat Kevin Stefanski. And Kevin Stefanski's offense in all of those games against the Bengals looks like the offense that can take you to an AFC Championship game. The problem is, the second the lights go out in the stadium after the Bengals-Browns game, that genius dissipates. And then we watch him against the Steelers.


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[Assistant] You can't find the end zone against the Ravens. Forget which way they're going. I need some sort of consistency and stability out of


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[Assistant] When you beat the AFC, a team that's earmarked for the AFC Championship game by 24. I hear you, but that was more about the defense than the offense.


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[Assistant] This is what I want to see. What I want to see out of Kevin's fans, because we haven't seen it for any stretch, is string a couple of games in a row together. In his first season in 2020, they won four in a row, twice.


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[Assistant] When we come back, it's the number one defense in the NFL against the number two defense in the NFL. We'll talk about that. We're coming right back after this message from PCC Air Force.


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[Assistant] Browns, playoff expectations, another great defense. Some of that is fizzled with the Sean Watson being out, but you're still going to see statistically the best two defenses in the NFL on Sunday. Granted,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you. Take the under all day every day and something we haven't really talked much about guys. The weather is not going to be good. Expect Cincinnati conditions supposed to rain on Sunday. Also, it's going to be colder than it was for the Cincinnati game. So obviously that leads to a sloppy game. Bull touched on it. Here's my biggest point. If the Browns come out of this game,


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[Assistant] And they either lose the turnover battle or they do not force a turnover. We're looking at a blowout.


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[Assistant] The only way they stay in this football game is if they finally, because I haven't done it this year, if they start taking the ball away. They're 30th in the NFL in takeaways. And I know we talk about this team being the top ranked defense and a special defense.


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[Assistant] The one thing they're not doing is taking the football, and great defenses do that, and they play complimentary football. When they give the offense a short field, the offense does enough to punch it in.


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[Assistant] Gotta win the turnover battle, and I think you've gotta win it significantly. I'll even go so far to say the Browns need at least one defensive score. If they do that, I think they can.


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[Assistant] And we welcome you back to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show here on WKYC. We're here every Friday, 1230 to 1 during the NFL season. We're previewing the Browns game, which this week is the San Francisco 49ers. McNuggets, there are a lot of individual matchups that ultimately will go a long way in determining who wins. Let's break some of them down, shall we?


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[Assistant] I like Denzel. I like him a lot. Uhm, I mean, I think he's still one of the best cover corners in the NFL. I think he slipped a little bit last year and that gave some people some pause coming into this season, but he's been asked.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I really struggled with this one. I gotta tell you, uhm, Omari Cooper is, I think, one of the best route runners in the NFL. And he is it, guys. When you look at the wide receiver production from this Browns offense,


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[Assistant] It reminds me of the outfield home run production from the Cleveland Guardians. It's not just bad.


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[Assistant] Outside of Amari Cooper. So for that reason, I think they're gonna give extra help and attention on Amari Cooper because they don't think anybody else in this core can beat them.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be a tough day for Amari Cooper, and I think Ward might have a slight edge in this one. Jason?


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[Assistant] So it's official, it is official now. I thought that he was the biggest Browns homer ever. This proves it. But he's been killing him for two weeks. I know, but he can't pick against him.


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[Assistant] San Francisco, just too much for the battered Browns. I mean, the injury list is growing. It looks like Nijoku might go because he's practicing, but Petonio is still out with the knee. It's too much to ask for even with this great defense and pretty so good. McNuggets, what do you got?


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[Assistant] You get one. You get one. Hey, we're wrapping it up. Don't forget the two minute warning on Sunday. Go to YouTube, type in UCSS and watch the post game show. Enjoy the game. We will see you next week.


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[Assistant] You gotta be strategic how you use that 200.


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[Assistant] If you hit an 18 league parlay, he might be the greatest.


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[Assistant] I need him to be at least there. Cause 70% like, stuff happens over the course of a game.


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[Assistant] Depending on the game plan, like it still might affect his throwing motion, his throwing ability. So I can't really open up my playbook all the way entirely and get the full Deshaun Watson effect if he's only 70%. If he still can't make those throws, I'm not putting him out the dent on top of that.


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[Assistant] You know what I say at 84%? It's your call. That's what I tell you. It's your call.


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[Assistant] The worst, see, I don't want to go into these other weeks and think just because they did it against San Francisco that that's just going to be what it is.


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[Assistant] I think that a lot of emotions went into this game. Uhm, a lot of doubt from outside peers went into that locker room and they, they heard it and they went and they came together and said, we want to prove the world wrong on this. And they did. They did. And that's a fair point. The thing is,


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[Assistant] The Colts, like, now you're favored again. Now you're supposed to go out there and you're supposed to beat them.


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[Assistant] And I don't want them to take their foot off the gas. Like when you have a dominant performance like that and you do the unexpected, like,


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[Assistant] To come back the next week, like, now everybody's like, this is what you need to be. Like, we expecting it to be this. And sometimes people relax a little bit, cause like, we just beat the best. Have you seen that NFL locker room? Perhaps San Francisco was guilty of that.


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[Assistant] I'd rather have Dashaad in there because I know at least that spark is still there.


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[Assistant] I hear what you saying cause I'm with you. Like I just don't, with Jim Swartz, I don't think that...


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[Assistant] Because what's, what's, what's happening is right now the world, the world is going, that defense is unbelievable. You guys are the best, you're the best since the 80's Bears. And you know, Jim Schwartz is coming in like,


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[Assistant] He's very honest and he does exactly what I just said he does. He's going to point out your deficiencies. He's going to point out your flaws all the time. So you always, in your mind, you're never thinking, man, I'm really great. Like you won't think that because it's like, I still got to get, I got to get better at this. I've missed this. I've messed that up. So it's like in your mind, it's always working. Like I still got to get better and it keeps you hungry.


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[Assistant] It stuck out like a sore throat to me, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] He puts, he puts, he puts a stop sign to whatever side he on. If you were running back and he's supposed to go right, that tackle, he, you cannot get outside his area. And that's what we need. And that's like the best part. You got 10 other dudes inside out.


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[Assistant] I mean, that was going to happen in this game because you got a new guard in there and you still got Dewine on the right, so.


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[Assistant] And for some reason, they say Dwyane's not really good in the run, which is so Wyatt Taylor is stuck and can't move to the next level. Then on the other side, you got a guard with, a young guard with Michael Dunn and Jed Wills. He just wanted to make sure he got his guy before he even tried to leave, period. Yeaah. There's a while one before you go to graduate level stuff. Yeaah. We gotta make sure he take care of this.


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[Assistant] I'd give you two better wins. Don't say Thursday night against the Jets. Sure. Baker Mayfield. That's top five.


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[Assistant] So we're talking oh four. I got five years of dang. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] It's because of what he had, like the circumstances of this game.


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[Assistant] Only in Brown's Lork in that house. I mean, you have. I couldn't believe it, cause it was like, I was, he threw the pick, he tried to chase his daddy just on somebody's back, and his ACL is torn. I'm like, how?


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[Assistant] Well did he do anything? No. David and Joku.


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[Assistant] What did Elijah Moore do? They're dead to me. Don't even talk to me about PFF either because that's abysmal.


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[Assistant] Well, I think he, you know what it is? It's cause he's been criticized all week about not showing up. Well, that's probably it. He knew he had to show up this guy.


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[Assistant] Step it up. Well that's not fair because he, he only have one coverage.


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[Assistant] And I think it was one time and he caught, I think they caught the ball for like six yards.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay is two weeks away. I gotta know. Again, where are we looking at on the trades now? I mean, obviously we're not getting a ton of production out of our wide receiver room outside of a Mark Cooper. I know you talked about maybe going into the wide receivers looking for a trade there.


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[Assistant] Running back is still something. Left tackle is still something. What do you got?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, I'm about to ask you about something that's very touchy in the Cleveland community.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski's play calling this past Sunday. What did you think of it? And can you believe that people still want him fired?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, I got a miscellaneous question, and I don't know if you got the answer to it or not, but I'ma ask you anyway.


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[Assistant] Why does Deshaun Watson not want to be called Derek?


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[Assistant] It's a, I'm sure nobody ever asked him that question. So she could be the first.


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[Assistant] Okay, listen, take it, take it from a former athlete. All he's been hearing about is the shoulder, the shoulder, the shoulder, the shoulder. So if you ask him something that's not shoulder related, it'll be a breath of fresh air. He'll be like, ha, finally, something outside of the shoulder.


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[Assistant] It shows that you two don't pay attention to the hard research that Mikey McNuggets do. McNuggets went and got that, that, that nugget for us.


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[Assistant] No, no, and I played with Coraline and I really enjoyed my time in Denver with him. He hasn't been quite the same since he toured his ACL. I agree with that. And 17 million, he ain't playing like a 17 million.


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[Assistant] He just ain't been the same guy. Like before that, dude was, he was like that. Like he was going over on top of people catching the thing. Like he ended up, I think he blessed Denzel one time, but.


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[Assistant] I always thought Elijah Moore was fast, and he don't outrun nobody.


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[Assistant] I'm sure they would say we want to extend you to a bigger deal after this. If I'm giving up anything more than a third, I'm talking about, if I'm not the Browns, if you're giving up a first or a second, you definitely


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, he going first pick, so you gotta deal with Drake May or Michael Pennix Jr. or something like that.


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[Assistant] But you need a quarterback. You don't, listen, this is it. This, I don't think y'all understand that after this season, stuff gotta happen to the roster. So. Oh, I know. This is it. I'm very aware of that. You gotta be all in.


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[Assistant] I mean, not the whole year. He was out the whole year. He was. He toured, he, he, best he showed up in, in training camp.


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[Assistant] Even if you won! And now you're three and four. Even if you won with PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] And Deshawn is out. You're not winning the Super Bowl with PJ Walker or DTR. No, that's true. You gotta get the guy that at least he's worked with. Didn't he work with Kevin Smith?


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[Assistant] I think, I think we're good. He's average and he has moments. I think he's good.


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[Assistant] Done. Because he, I think, well he got dropping, he drops the ball but that speed is real. He would be what you thought Elijah Moore was supposed to be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I'm pretty sure it was Kevin Johnson. I didn't get the information.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, Delvin. Yup. That's the only one though.


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[Assistant] Y'all fooling yourselves. The best one was Trent Brown. You gotta have him.


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[Assistant] No, he said if he was a lottery pick, meaning that he would play more, he would be a starter.


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[Assistant] He gotta polish his game. He gotta get more to his game. But if you talking about a spark plug, like a JR Smith just come in and just pull, like he's perfect. So you have him as a contributor.


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[Assistant] In two years, you watch. They gonna get rid of Max Streus and they gonna have Imani Bates be that guy. Okay.


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[Assistant] Three of my starters got hurt, and then I tried to go on the waiver wire and it was like, doo-doo. I'm like, alright, I'm done.


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[Assistant] No, seriously. I ran screens and check downs and all that. I had more catches for a guy that didn't have any plays designed for him. Thanks to Bernie.


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[Assistant] From all different, from all different positions, uh, because you, keep in mind, back then, you could do that Wham block. Oh yea, oh yea.


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[Assistant] So, I would basically go in motion like I was gonna wham block.


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[Assistant] And keep in mind, no plays were designed for me. Except one game. Except one game. And it's the craziest thing in the world. Here's what my job was for an entire game. Right? I don't care what the play is.


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[Assistant] I don't care what the pass pattern is, I don't care. Here's what I was told. You start behind the quarterback, right? You look and see what side Reggie White is on.


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[Assistant] Oh, who was the fourth team? He didn't play a game in the regular season. No, well, the Browns moved to Baltimore. Yup.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no. We were, uhm, their first year was our last year in Cleveland. Okay. Right. Right. So, it was, it was crazy because,


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[Assistant] You know, you went to Baltimore and I thought, okay, new coach, you know, let's get this going or what have you. And I guess they just wasn't having it. And to this day, let me tell you, I'm not a petty guy, right? But to this day, I know who they replaced me with.


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[Assistant] But y'all can find out, do your research. In five years, look at my career and look at Ben Morris's career. Wow!


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[Assistant] So, so in five years, when, when, and it was five years, how about this, in five years, I...


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[Assistant] Came back and played in Cleveland with Minnesota in the first preseason game. I still have the, the score, the touchdown, I still have it, right? And they go, how does it feel to be in Minnesota? And the only thing I said was how, how's Badmores doing?


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[Assistant] You can put whatever twist you want on it, but a running back playing hard and taking that pounding for a whole football game is hard to come by. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] So you go ahead, they gave Bam the big money, brought him in, he was there for two seconds. And so every time I put on that Vikings uniform, I look at the numbers and say, uh, I'm still playing. I wonder if they could have used that. Going about my business.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you're assuming Jerome Ford is banged up, right?


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[Assistant] We like him better. I like him a little better. I would, I would say this. They're different runners, right? And that Pierre Strong is more of a downhill guy and Jerome Ford, they have almost put him in a situation.


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[Assistant] They put him in a situation where he does a lot of the stuff around the outside. So I would say that... I knew it was coming. That is part of the situation with that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and so it looks better because Pierre Strong's doing all the downhill stuff. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But so that's why it looks that way. So I would say they do more.


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[Assistant] Pierre Strong's more like Kareem Hunt does. Right?


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[Assistant] And they do Jerome Ford stuff more like they do those wide receivers. Right. So, it's hard to compare, uh, but I would definitely, if I had a choice, I, I, I like what Pierre Strong does up the middle. I just think that they should have did it more at the end of the game. Ah, fair. Now, now listen. We've had this conversation a lot, right?


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[Assistant] You know what it is? Coaches get caught up in fools go, right? So remember earlier during the game,


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[Assistant] They had them 30 shorts, secondary shorts, and whatever.


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[Assistant] And they roll PJ Walker out and he'd make that throw. Boom, boom, boom. Consistent, right? So you get those moments in the game. Now you know the game calls for.


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[Assistant] You run as much time off the clock as you can and you don't put nobody in harm's way. Right? And then you kick it down the field and then you go, here's what we got. Our strength against whatever you put out there. Right? That, that's, that's what I thought was going to happen.


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[Assistant] They throw a couple of passes. The clock doesn't run. Now you give Seattle the ball on a turnover with the ball and a timeout.


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[Assistant] So it's not ideal, right? But I just wouldn't have put that offense in that situation.


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[Assistant] When too many times we look at the Browns offense and say one of the strengths of the team is running the football and we get to those critical moments in the game and they throw a damn pass. If I'm going out, I'm going out swinging. That's what most coaches think that way. If I'm going out,


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[Assistant] I'm going out with what I do best. If you stop it, good on you. But we never got to that point. Because they threw passes. But that's near and near.


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[Assistant] And, and, and so that, and to make it worse, pass the ball right down the field. Which is right in your wheelhouse.


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[Assistant] Not at all. Not at all. What about when offense had to score 39?


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[Assistant] But that, that's what, that's what team football is. You do what you gotta do to win the game, right? If you know your offense is struggling, I remember this was in 2001. Uhm, I wanna say the year that, uhm, Baltimore won the Super Bowl. They went five weeks and didn't score an offensive touchdown.


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[Assistant] You try, you do whatever you can to win games. Every game's different, every game's gonna present itself differently, but you gotta do what you gotta do to win the game. If that means no offense and all defense, so be it. If that means no defense and all offense, so, so be it.


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[Assistant] The sign of a Super Bowl champ or sign of a contender is those teams that can win in a multitude of ways.


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[Assistant] So right now you're telling me that this team can only win a game one way?


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[Assistant] We've seen them win a number of ways. You just got to find a way to get it done. Whatever's going on that day, you got to find a way to get it done. Now from a coaching perspective, you can help with that to some extent and try to keep your guys out of harm's way. And I'm not saying, look,


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[Assistant] I don't ever want to be in that situation with a young quarterback that has 6 touchdowns and 18 turnovers. Right? So why put him in it?


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[Assistant] So you can go out there and practice and warm up and throw 20 or 30 balls in your.


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[Assistant] Your two 707 and team drills, right? You can do that. But that's not what happens on Sunday. So what you try to do is build on that. The other thing that you have to realize is this.


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[Assistant] So that's another complication that doesn't really play into it. But I do know, and everybody that I've talked to said, as far as throwing the football, that is one of the most painful things to have.


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[Assistant] Because you don't know if you lift your arm whether you're gonna have the strength to throw it 40 yards or 4 yards. And that's the chance you take every time you rear up to throw the football.


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[Assistant] We talked about it with Burn. So let's not, so, so let's not, let's stop making this, you know, about, oh, he should be out there playing or he should, or if he can go today. It's a tough injury. It's hard to navigate through because you can't simulate what you're going to be doing on Sunday. So if you try to do that on Wednesday,


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[Assistant] You could possibly lose him for two weeks because now it's inflamed and sore for another two weeks. So what you try to do is get him to the point, build up to Sunday and then see how it feels on Sunday. That's all you can do with this injury because I promise you in off season, he may need surgery.


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[Assistant] I think everybody's more prepared now because here, here's the problem. Okay. Here's the thing that messed this whole thing up. These words, you ready?


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[Assistant] We're seeing what his actual injury was, because they didn't say right away. Right? They made it sound like he had a little shoulder boo-boo. Now all of a sudden a month later,


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[Assistant] So that everybody understands what this man is going through to try to get back on the football field. That in itself will lead to a better in locker room situation. You see? So uhm, it's gonna be tough. I don't know how much he's gonna be able to do because again, like I tore my rotator cuff and played a year on it. And I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder. And that was in my left arm.


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[Assistant] Having any type of rotator cuff injury and trying to throw a football. So people need to understand that we don't know.


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[Assistant] You know who's accepted it? You know who's accepted it? The 49ers. This is who we are. Come get some. Right?


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[Assistant] This is the way this Cleveland Browns team is presented to us. Both offensively and defensively, especially up front. Right? They've bolstered that defensive line. Look at what that line does. Right? So everybody kinda has an idea of who and what this team is. Except for the people that matter.


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[Assistant] And have they slowed down running the football? Yes!


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[Assistant] Nobody's gonna be as good as Nick Chubb. We understand that.


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[Assistant] This is the first time in a long time they kinda actually look like they're playing as a team.


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[Assistant] Right? Where, where nobody's looking frustrated and stuff like that. But, that being said, if you have the, boy let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] Hey, you, you, you gotta, see, see, Bush, you don't know how to do it.


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[Assistant] Is that the only thing in that moment that is your friend is a running clock. Now it was right around two minutes it would have stopped anyway.


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[Assistant] But the way you did it, you gave them one play with no timeout, with one timeout and the two minutes. So you gave them an extra timeout. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] And, and, and here's why. Uhm, I just think...


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[Assistant] Their offense at this moment is more explosive. Uhm, but I will say this.


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[Assistant] This is one of the best defenses they'll face all year. And I know because they have Patrick Holmes, we ignore that. Their defense is really good, especially up front.


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[Assistant] So I'm scared that two of my get a bunch of balls batted cause Chris Jones is a monster, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and so I, I just hope they move them a little bit, but I think offensively, offensively they're more explosive.


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[Assistant] What are you gonna do? At some point, the grown man with thinning hair comes to this crossroads.


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[Assistant] Did we get the official announcement from the Guardians? Like, what's the holdup here?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, everybody knows what's up, but he'll make his official goodbye comments, I guess, at two o'clock today, you said? Yes. Alright. I have the guy they should hire. Good, because we're going to talk about that. And the guy, and


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[Assistant] Alright, I've got a couple of names. I don't know how it's going to go. We're going to kind of rate Tito and the pantheon of Guardians Indians managers. Is he the greatest?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm sure someone can pull out some sort of metric that can say yes. Some metric that would say no. We'll just give our opinions. I can't say if he was better than Lou Boudreau. I never watched him manage. I have no idea. I know what they accomplished under Lou.


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[Assistant] the same amount of time. Sean Merriman's on the show. I thought that was a mistake when I got the rundown. I looked again, I said, no, that's really Sean Merriman. I think we had him a couple of times on first take in Cold Pizza. He was always a good guest, so I'm sure he'll be good. He's just gonna share his insights on the NFL. Who better to talk about Miles Garrett


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[Assistant] You know, had a brief career as, as great skill, but when he was good, he was very good.


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[Assistant] Back in the day. Yeaah. Yeaah. It's hard to see Mark Gastineau today. He hasn't aged well. I know he's got some health issues.


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[Assistant] Okay, so pro football, uh, their methodology of handing out the PFF grades. How do they do it? We talked about it on this show ad nauseam. We're finally going to get to the bottom of this, right Mike?


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[Assistant] You talk about a swervey derv and uh, throwing a curve ball when you didn't see it coming.


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[Assistant] I think he's changed the narrative on most people's thinking, but did he change the narrative for everybody? We're going to play that video for you if you haven't seen it and then give you our thoughts about that. Uh, but first let's say our first hello of the day to Mikey McNuggets. Who looks better with hair?


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[Assistant] Mike, I've got a question for you and I don't know if we can get it.


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[Assistant] While the show is still on the air, I meant, this is totally my bad. We played a clip of video yesterday.


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[Assistant] When we were discussing this on the 5 o'clock show up on channel 3.


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[Assistant] That we, our local photographer, our channel 3 photographer shot it.


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[Assistant] And it was the moment the conversation was had.


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[Assistant] And Deshawn Watson told the brass, Stefanski and Andrew Berry, I'm not gonna go. Was it in the stadium? It was in the stadium. Can't play. Okay. Again, I thought we had a free press in the United States of America. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,


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[Assistant] It wasn't game action. It was something our local news photographer shot, but we can't show it. Ridiculous. However, let me, let me paint the picture for you. It was Barry Stefanski to Sean Watson.


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[Assistant] Something was said. Our camera was probably 30 feet away. We couldn't tell what was said.


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[Assistant] Stefanski and Berry, as soon as the news was delivered, turned and left the group immediately. When was this? This was before the game, when the decision was being made.


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[Assistant] Jump in and correct me if my characterization of the conversation is off. I can find it and watch it for you. Do that. Do that. And, uh, I'm sorry we can't share it with our audience. Really sorry about that. We have restrictions as a press and as a media. And I'm sorry about that too because we're not supposed to, but we clearly do. However,


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[Assistant] When the, when the news was delivered, Stefanski turned and left in a hurry. I would say in a huff.


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[Assistant] I hope I'm not mischaracterizing it. I would like for the viewers to make their own decisions, but they can't.


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[Assistant] My impression is, if I didn't know what was said, where did you find that? Is that from Sean? I don't know. Sean Dunnigan? Yeah. Okay. He's the channel three photographer. Watch it and tell me if my characterization of it is wrong. As the news is being delivered,


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[Assistant] After the conversation and whatever it was that Deshaun said, I'm presuming he said, I just don't feel it today. I can't go. At some point,


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[Assistant] Stefanski and Barry turn from the group and quickly walk away. Stefanski walks ahead of Barry and Barry says something to Stefanski who stops and turns around and waits for Barry and then the two have a conversation.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna get into what I think the biggest difference is between the Baker situation and the Deshaun Watson situation, but I'll give you a hint. There's 230 million differences between the two.


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[Assistant] Baker was playing for a contract. Yeah. Deshawn doesn't need to impress anybody. That Jack is guaranteed. That's a fact.


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[Assistant] He took all the throwing reps. Why would you give all the handoff reps to Watson?


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[Assistant] And I think, and I think you're right. I think, I even think that in his mind, he probably is flashing back to Baker, who was medically cleared and clearly needed surgery, but soldiered on. Now, it was to the detriment of the team, and quite frankly, I'm surprised, this is why I'm most surprised Kevin Stefanski did what he did.


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[Assistant] By them letting the player drive the bus with Baker, they all went off the cliff.


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[Assistant] No, in hindsight it was a mistake because the player drove the bus off the cliff. They didn't know at the time he was going to do that. They said even with an injured left shoulder, he gives us the best chance to win. What I'm saying is, and I'm not doing a good job of it, so let me try to start over. I believe that


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[Assistant] You know, you're looking at him side-eye going, Coach!


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[Assistant] I have the media schedule in my email. I'll have to look and see, but I'm very curious to see what Deshaun Watson says when the gaggle of reporters run up to him and say, what do you think of coaches comments? Cause that'll be the first thing out of their mouth.


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[Assistant] Well, you would want to think that the medical staff would be in line with what the quarterback is feeling.


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[Assistant] He went over to the bench, had the pad in his hand, looked at it, showed it to his quarterback, and then threw it.


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[Assistant] Alright, on to uhm, I think we can share this because Trevor Bauer shared it on Twitter. So we are allowed to share.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's, so for those who don't know the situation yet, Trevor Bauer, a couple of years ago when he was with the Dodgers, was accused by a woman in San Diego of choking her out and physically abusing her during, uh, a sexual liaison.


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[Assistant] Trevor Bauer for his part said that the liaison was completely consensual and actually provided a text exchange in which the discussion was had about him choking her during sex.


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[Assistant] No, that was evidence that he provided to Major League Baseball in the arbitration hearing. He provided his text messages between he and her.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the San Diego Police Department, excuse me, the LA Prosecutor's Office and the Police Department looked into the allegations. There was absolutely no proof of any wrongdoing. In fact, the woman in San Diego asked for a restraining order.


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[Assistant] And the judge denied her request. Now, fri- and he makes this point in the video, that's almost never done. If there's even a hint that there was anything going on, the judge always errs on the side of restraining order. They didn't issue that.


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[Assistant] Trevor Bauer then was banished to Japan. He pitched in Japan last year where he had a solid year, finished 11-4.


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[Assistant] There is another lawsuit pending, which he is asked to be dismissed. It hasn't been ruled on yet.


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[Assistant] This is the video that Trevor Bauer dropped yesterday, and I think at one point it was well over, it was in the millions of views. 4.2. Yeah. Okay. So watch this video, it's about two minutes I think, and then we'll have a discussion on the backside.


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[Assistant] Here's the danger that we, and we've heard this, and a part of this was on the backside of the B2 movement. All women must be bullied. That was a mantra. And listen, I'm not here to bash a woman or to support a man or vice versa. What I'm saying is, when there is money involved,


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[Assistant] And there is potential gain of finances. People do some crazy things.


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[Assistant] And you've been around the professional circuit, and I'm not gonna go into details here, but you know that there is...


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[Assistant] And it taught me at a very early age because my inclination bull was where you were. I believe women. I'm sorry I do.


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[Assistant] And I believe that nobody was malicious when they said all women must be believed. It was a product of the times we were living in. This was on the edge of the MeToo movement.


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[Assistant] And there was a stretch when all a woman had to do is make an accusation and it stuck. And the danger in that is for your comment to be applied here,


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[Assistant] All accusers are right. And that can't be said. I mean, we clearly know there have been women that have come out and admitted afterwards. Yeah, I made a mistake.


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[Assistant] Put me in line to believe some of the things that were being said about him.


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[Assistant] But the danger in doing that, and the media should have known better, because we went down this road with Duke Lacrosse, they were tried, convicted, hung at the, at the stake, and then all of a sudden the, the, the accuser


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[Assistant] My bad. And in this case, now that we have more information, and again, we do have to operate on the assumption that this evidence he shows is true. Did he show evidence? He showed screenshots.


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[Assistant] He provided, now he didn't provide the text messages that they got through discovery in the lawsuit. The mistake she made was she filed a suit against him.


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[Assistant] Well, where are the bruises? They never had physical contact after that video.


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[Assistant] Did she actually take out an insurance policy?


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[Assistant] When someone does this, to that level, it breaks the system because


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[Assistant] For the people that actually are abused, that don't know what really happened between her and Trevor Bauer,


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[Assistant] Oh, his career. Where is he? Where is he? His nickname was the punt god. He has been exonerated. Wasn't even there. There was video evidence that proved he wasn't there when she said this happened.


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[Assistant] This was the one he was punished for. This one.


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[Assistant] Because Major League Baseball looked into this one, and they erred, and they kept him from being able to do his job.


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[Assistant] In the United States of America, a man was accused of doing something that he's now proven didn't happen, but for it, he not only lost his job and upwards of $30 million, he's likely lost any future earnings.


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[Assistant] Sometimes there is evidence that is put forth that make us look at it and say, oh, well I know what happened there. Now I also think too, I got a text from a friend yesterday. It said, huh, I guess it wasn't true. I still want it to be true. Now this person is not in media.


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[Assistant] So I don't expect that person to use the bar that we use. The bar we use has to be far, far more discriminant. But there was a, there was an error.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's where we have to be very careful. And I thought that the Duke La Croix case was going to be the


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[Assistant] Epicenter of when the media started to be careful.


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[Assistant] And not run loose with facts and what they wanted the truth to be. Sometimes the media runs with the narrative of what they want and not what is true. And in the prosecution of the, uh, district attorney from Durham. He went to jail. He went to jail for what he did because what he did was criminal.


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[Assistant] He, like her attorney, hid evidence that would have exonerated the defendants. And the lawyer, one of the lines the lawyer used in the defamation case, which they won, he was representing the Duke of Cross players, he used this line, and by the way, this was in the early throws of Google,


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[Assistant] And the internet, but he, he read the 14 names or whatever they were. And this was very powerful. After it, he said, for the rest of their lives, when you Google these names,


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[Assistant] It's coming up that they were involved in the Duke Lacrosse case, uh, the Duke Lacrosse rape case, which never happened.


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[Assistant] It's ethics and journalism that used to exist. Retractions, corrections, those don't happen anymore. You know what they do now? Double down. They pull the story off the internet. Double down. No, they just pull the story off the internet.


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[Assistant] And is particularly the way it's played out. Maybe, you know what? Three weeks from now, he might be found guilty and evidence may come forward that he's a total creep and a criminal. And in that case, we'll revisit it. But for now, that's what we know.


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[Assistant] No, I know you don't, but why would he leave a mid-tier payroll team to come from a bottom-tier payroll?


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[Assistant] What about this though? The game has a huge Hispanic influence. Huge. Most rosters have double digit players that are Latin American. I would think that, and I know it didn't work with ICPN in Chicago, they thought that would work.


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[Assistant] I think he was five years ago, but when Tito missed games and he wasn't named the echo manager, I like bull felt uh-oh. That's not a vote of confidence.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know why, you know. You would have thought that with his lineage, his dad played Major League Baseball, his brother is a Hall of Famer, Sandy was an unbelievably popular player here in Cleveland. Plus, he's a catcher.


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[Assistant] The hitting coach was well thought of, uh, Chris, what's, what's the hitting coach? Yes. I talked to him at spring training, very impressive guy, bright. I think he's kind of in the


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[Assistant] Are you gonna fight on any of your cards? You look like you can still get in there and knock heads.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this. You're a Maryland guy. De'Quel Jackson was a regular on our show before he big-timed us and took a job with the Browns. What if you and De'Quel get in a cage at the same time? Who's coming out alive?


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[Assistant] Two was, two was little brother tore the Buckeyes defense up last year. That's a fact that you can't even, you can't, Tyvis. Wait a minute, wait a minute, who won that game? They won the game, but, but he tore the Buckeyes defense to pieces. All that matters is the win in the end. That's the bull.


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[Assistant] I'm calling off. Anytime you want. Thanks, Sean. Great job, Sean. You gotta be careful, Tivus, because Tivus, you are very sensitive. I know it's a big spread, but it does, this game worries me. It worries me. That's cute.


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[Assistant] Alright. You're worried? I am, I'm concerned.


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[Assistant] I got Daniel Jones. Disaster. He got decked ten times last night. Who? Daniel Jones. That's your quarterback?


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[Assistant] The Browns have been booed in all three home games. This year? Yes, at some point in the games. I mean it wasn't.


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[Assistant] No, I never do. I mean, it's not what I do. I go to support the team.


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[Assistant] The Jets haven't gone squat. What'd you guys think of the defensive holding call though?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they did. That's how, that's how I know if they love their coach. Taylor Swift doesn't even know anything about football, but she was watching going, come on guys, this is the jet.


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[Assistant] You know who looks at all 22 players?


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[Assistant] Sam, one of the things that we always talk about on the show, cause we do PFF segments every week on the show.


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[Assistant] And one of the things we always talk about is how the hell you guys even get this done. There are, I'm guessing 1500 plays in an average NFL week. I don't, I don't know. I'm just picking a number at random and there are, you know, 40 players that are playing a significant amount of time.


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[Assistant] How many people do you have on your staff? How long does it take to grade


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[Assistant] One player start to finish, one game. How in the world do you guys get this done?


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[Assistant] Sam, let's bring it to our quarterback, to Sean Watson. Uh, he's been a bit of an enigma. He certainly hasn't been the guy that we saw in Houston.


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[Assistant] Uh, but then he had the week, uh, lat not this past Sunday, but the Sunday before where we started to see real growth and progress. And I know the Tennessee Titans secondary wasn't the greatest, but what are you seeing in Deshaun Watson and his career arc?


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[Assistant] Very insightful. The one thing that I take from all of that is when we're critical of guys,


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[Assistant] Uhm, we're probably remembering four or five plays. 100%. They're looking at every single play. Yes. I mean, it is the best metric we have. Yeah.


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[Assistant] The one thing we didn't get to that I wanted to, of his staff of 70, what's the average background? Are 40% of these guys former players, former coaches?


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[Assistant] It gave them the cache they needed when they were early on. Yes.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, I don't blame, I don't blame Deshaun Watson for not playing. If he says he can't play, then he can't play. None of us criticized Watson for not playing. No, and there is no zero criticism of Deshaun Watson. Baker would have played. What you don't want to be is the team that...


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[Assistant] That tells the player to go out there when the player says, I don't, I don't think I should be out there. They did that. They told AB that. I know they did. They told, it's been done a lot. It's been done a lot in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I didn't understand what the part was in front of that. His name was Lindy Infante.


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[Assistant] Man, I wish we would have got to that earlier. I did a lot of research yesterday on this whole notion that you can't be good.


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[Assistant] Who are the best two teams this year? And I know it's small sampled, but who are the best two teams?


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[Assistant] The Philadelphia Eagles have the number two rush offense. Okay. San Francisco has the number three. Yeah. Okay. First of all,


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, if you look at the NFL right now, and I know it's way too early, I want to revisit these numbers at year's end. But right now, the teams that I wrote down that were the best this year in my view, certainly objective, Philly, San Francisco, Dallas, Buffalo, Kansas City, Miami,


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[Assistant] What should I steal? She asked another, in reference to visiting my house for the first time. The answer? Take his money. So how might that work?


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[Assistant] Then, after the first time we met, net worth is 51 mil, she said. Bitch, you better secure the bag, was the response. But, but how was she gonna do that?


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[Assistant] Then, after the second time we met, former Padres pitcher Jacob Nix told her, you gotta get this bag. I'll give you fifty thousand, Lindsay replied.


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[Assistant] Her AA sponsor asked her at one point, not really, she replied.


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[Assistant] Which was taken by Lindsay Hill herself the morning after she claimed she was brutally attacked, emotionally traumatized, and desperate to get away from me.


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[Assistant] And now we have the metadata, so there can be no dispute. It was taken mere minutes before she left my house on the morning of May 16th, 2021. Without my knowledge or consent, of course.


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[Assistant] I think it paints a pretty clear picture of what actually happened the evening of May 15th, and why the video was originally concealed from us.


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[Assistant] Uh, she denied her request for a domestic violence restraining order and


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[Assistant] She found that no sexual assault or non-consensual conduct took place.


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[Assistant] Learned that, uh, it's extremely rare for a request, for a restraining order to be denied because the standard of proof that you need to obtain one is extremely low. So, you can make of that what you will.


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[Assistant] And most importantly, as I've said from day one, I never sexually assaulted Lindsay Hill, or anyone else for that matter. So I sued her, which prompted her to counter sue me.


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[Assistant] Quite frankly, regardless of the outcome in court, I've paid significantly more on legal fees than Lindsay Hill could ever pay me in her entire life. And I knew that would be the case going in. But the lawsuit was never about the money for me.


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[Assistant] Uh, the discovery process in that lawsuit recently concluded, at which point


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[Assistant] Uh, Lindsay Hill's legal team again came to us with another proposal to resolve the case. Uh, this time, however, they weren't seeking any money from me.


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[Assistant] Much of the information that had been hidden from us, a small portion of which I've referenced here, uhm, I was willing to agree to the terms proposed.


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[Assistant] I also retained my right to speak publicly about the case, something I have not been at liberty to do since June of 2021. So, as of today, both lawsuits have been settled.


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[Assistant] Over the last two years, I've been forced to defend my integrity, uh, and my reputation in a very public setting.


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[Assistant] We do gotta get a read in here real quick before we dive into the rest of the topics and we will definitely touch on the offensive line, the running game, the defense.


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[Assistant] Stefanski and DTR here, but before we do that, I want to remind everybody today is a special day here on UCSS. Not only do you have a regular show.


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[Assistant] This will be two hours straight Browns Ravens, but at two o'clock, we are hopping over to Cavs Media Day for a live 90 minute to two hour.


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[Assistant] After that, G Bush will be going live on the UCSS channel at six o'clock for the barbershop. So you got a three pack of content today coming from UCSS. It would be unfair though, guys. And I know we just got off at a little tangent on the offensive line, which is part of the offensive issues yesterday, but Brown started a fifth round rookie.


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[Assistant] Making his first career start against Baltimore. It did not go well for DTR, but I also think it would be unfair to say his head coach did him any favors. The fans he helped him out at all.


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[Assistant] Let me suggest a move for you guys and then we'll get back into what DTR actually did yesterday and how Kevin Stefanski helped or hindered him. But this suggestion is going to be brought to us.


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[Assistant] I went to West six yesterday in my bird dogs. Got a lot of compliments on them because they are the most comfortable sweatpants you will ever find is actually hot yesterday.


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[Assistant] Should have worn the Bird Dog shorts which are equally as comfortable and efficient for your workout needs and what not. Check them out at BirdDogs.com.


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[Assistant] To get yours today. Uh, would you guys be interested in a possible reunion? If possible, with one jacobi percent.


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[Assistant] Playcalling, DTR, whole situation, I said that's not a post game show, I just wanna, I don't know if you saw it Jay or Bull, you saw it, but.


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[Assistant] Quote unquote, layup plays there for Dorian Thompson Robinson. Everything seemed to be an intermediate throw, multiple progressions, and in basketball terms it seemed like he was taking...


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[Assistant] You can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. We asked our trusted YouTube community page.


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[Assistant] Who is more at fault for the Browns embarrassing loss and offensive performance at home yesterday versus the Ravens? 58%.


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[Assistant] So if this Brown's defense plays at the level it did yesterday.


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[Assistant] Which was a step back from the first three weeks, but still absolutely serviceable. You hold the team under 300 yards. You feel pretty good about the performance. How good is the offense have to play to keep the Browns in a, uh,


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[Assistant] Not just in the hunt for a playoff spot, but in the hunt for the AFC North.


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[Assistant] I gotta read, then we'll toss it a piece here. Uh, just a reminder, Jason's not here because he's at Cavs Media Day, which is where we are going later this afternoon. And Jason told me that he's wearing his bird dogs at Media Day because they are not just athletically fashionable, they are casually fashionable as well.


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[Assistant] You gotta tune into the show to find out. You gotta tune in at two o'clock when Jason joins us on the live stream. Uh, he did get a pair of bird dogs. He does love them. Just like, uh, I do just like Earl does, just like Anthony does. If you need a pair of comfortable, casual clothes, check out birddogs.com. Jason recorded this outside the locker room last night. He spoke with players in the locker room. He's going to fill us in on what he said. I'm not sure how he sent the video back.


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[Assistant] But it's a little fuzzy, so I'm just telling you guys, the content is great, the visual, uh, not, but honestly, Jason's not the best looking dude in the world, so.


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[Assistant] It may be doing us a favor. I'll put a little blur on. I told that to Jason last night. He said I could say that on the air. Jason, don't worry. Still love you, but this looks terrible. But the content and the information is A1. Here's Jason Lloyd outside the locker room following last night's loss.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have no idea, but the point about not having a secondary plan necessarily in place because Watson was taking the running snaps and then his issues which he brought up two weeks ago about the running game I do think are even more valid now. It's such a tricky spot.


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[Assistant] And here's the tweet in case you guys, just so you know I'm not making it up. Here's the tweet from Mary Kay. Listen, you never know what people can interpret now, but this is the exact tweet from Mary Kay one second ago. She just tweeted that out. Why are there no quotes on that?


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[Assistant] We have a bunch of super chats. Uh, if you're in the chat, we appreciate you sticking around with us. Hit the like button. We're going live from Cavs Media Day in about an hour. So make sure you stick around for that two o'clock to stream a launch. We've got a bunch of super chats from you guys. We appreciate everybody. We're going to run through these pretty quickly. SetapartLaz says today we are the band-aid mafia. Hyperfrosty says.


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[Assistant] My grandpa and I were wondering how Wills hasn't gotten hurt yet, but every other lineman has. And then we realized it's because he puts in zero effort. That's true. Vernell Jackson says Defanski has no feel for the game. He should let AVP call the plays. This crap is like Groundhog's Day. Defanski is the dumbest smart guy I know.


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[Assistant] Hyperfrosty has one, and this is actually, I think, a valid question. Why don't we use Tillman more? That's DTR's guy. If he has chemistry with anyone, it's his high school teammate and Tillman barely has a field. We have not seen that man.


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[Assistant] With this defense I take per set, do you think Washington would trade him for a fourth rounder?


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[Assistant] Uh, 759UXU says it doesn't matter because our head coach doesn't know how to maximize the talent we have on offense. Not a bunch of stars, but look what Baltimore did yesterday. Marty commence.


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[Assistant] We got a bunch more. This next one shows the, uh, the reason UCSS is the best. This one's from Josh Z. Jay's point about the widening gap between the ceiling and floor of quarterbacks is a great point. The performances are really good or really bad. No in between. And immediately after, one minute later, Kenneth


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[Assistant] We lost Nick Chubb who made the bad offensive line less visible. We talked about that earlier. Edwin Young II said Stefanski is not a leader of men. Game prep, in-game adjustments has been lackadaisical his entire tenure. He has no feel for the game.


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[Assistant] James Cosby says, coaches get, uh, get too much, players gotta play.


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[Assistant] Uh, John B says, are you guys sure Stefanski's the guy? I'm tired of watching him getting out coached by Harbaugh, Tomlin, Reed Belichick, et cetera. His record against those kinds of teams are embarrassing. M. Byrne says, it doesn't happen often, but I agree with Bull today.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jay Sia says if Stefanski's hype is fired today, who are the three options? It would be either Jim Schwartz or Bubba Ventrone. We have four more real quick, real quick. Sean Anderson says.


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[Assistant] Defanski doesn't call the best play for the situation. You don't dial up a pass on third and two. You have forward or hunt in the backfield. Be the head coach. Let someone else call the plays please.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brady says, just want to say, Bull held his own and was strong in there today. It was 2v1 for two hours. I was at the game Sunday and agreed 90% with Bull today and that never happens.


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[Assistant] I mean, I guess it would have to be the teeth, but like, I'm bothered if I don't brush my teeth for a few hours. Like, I hate when my teeth are grimy and, you know, like, ugh. I hate it.


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[Assistant] My understanding is that Washington was asking a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. And the flip to that is that the Browns clearly have


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[Assistant] That they weren't going to once again sort of mortgage the future for somebody who might come in for just one game. And so I think that that's


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[Assistant] Maybe there's a whole level of optimism to that. Maybe that's kind of rose-colored glasses, but at least that's the way I'm looking at it.


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[Assistant] We did talk to P.J. Walker because we didn't talk to P.J. Walker before the indie game, which we obviously had. But if Tashaun Watson is going to be starting, we're going to want to talk to Tashaun Watson as well, obviously. With the Cardinals, we're having to do both of those things as well. We don't know if we're talking to Clayton Tune or if we're talking to Kyle or Mari. It's kind of all in the air. But it sounds right now like,


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[Assistant] The Browns are proceeding with some optimism. I mean, PJ Walker is preparing as a starter as he should be, but he's not taking 100% of the first team reps. So I think Bernie telling you


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[Assistant] That this really is a very tricky injury and that it really is a day-to-day thing should appease fans a bit.


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[Assistant] Who are questioning what's going on with Tashawn Watson.


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[Assistant] Cumulative time to some degree. You know, like, the further removed you get from the initial injury, you do have reason to feel better.


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[Assistant] You know, it's just, again, I feel like I keep saying the same thing. It's just such a shame.


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[Assistant] This defense is playing at such a high level, you do have a lot of skilled position players who are sort of ready to have some


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[Assistant] I mean, why are we already saying that there's going to be these questions? Could there be? Yes. If this is a somewhat lost season, if T'Shawn Watson never fully regains the strength and the velocity in his shoulder, then yes. But what if he does get better? And what if he does suddenly start playing like the plan would be different?


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[Assistant] Even if you are in the Muni lot, at least listen, watch on your phones or something like that. Uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, he also goes back with Kevin Stefanski. The two of them were at, they're basically the same age, their wives are good friends, they have kids around the same age. The two of them were in Minnesota together, and uhm, have stayed really good friends through their various stops, and,


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[Assistant] But his whole family is, and he said that his mom and his sister and his...


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[Assistant] How much she cares, how much she cares about people and his intensity. I think that.


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[Assistant] You know, they don't have the results, but there's no question that these players aren't playing hard for him.


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[Assistant] He's willing to keep an open mind about people. For him, it's not only about who's the fancy draft pick or, uhm,


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[Assistant] What is your pedigree? It's what are you doing for us now? And how are you playing for us now? And I appreciate that. He's starting a lot of young players right now. There are a lot of rookies on that team that are in key.


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[Assistant] This is what happens in the game of football. It's a game of inches. But so much is made of that play call and not of this stifling, ostensibly number one defense allowing, as you said, the opposing team to go all the way down the field. And I'm with you on that one. I feel like it's terrible.


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[Assistant] He's, I mean, he's a little bit more of like a, you know,


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[Assistant] No, I mean, well, with Kyler Murray, at least on Saturday, you'd have to know, right? If he's being activated or not. And I doubt that they would actually activate him if they're not playing him simply because you don't have to. It's not like that window ends and you have to make a decision Saturday. So if you're not going to play him, why waste a spot on him?


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[Assistant] So I think that if they do activate him Saturday, you'll know that. The Browns? I don't know. I don't know if they'll have it go.


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[Assistant] To a game time decision, even in Indianapolis, all the signs were pointing to Deshaun Watson getting the start.


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[Assistant] Crazy things can happen. What if he fell in the shower on Sunday? What if he woke up on Sunday with an enormous amount of stiffness? You don't know. And I think that that's just kind of where we are right now in the game as well, that when guys are kind of teetering or even if not questionable, but like probable,


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[Assistant] If you don't have to definitely say until 90 minutes before, why definitely say until 90 minutes before?


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that TPJ will find space there. I think he will be able to contribute.


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[Assistant] It's another reason that fanbases should have patience. I remember last year having the lions, and the lions were in the midst of...


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[Assistant] I don't know, they'd lost like four or five or, you know, they were not in a good place. And uhm, Sheila,


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[Assistant] Hemp, hemp, I don't, I wanna say her name and I don't know, she's the owner, I'm not, I can't believe I'm screwing this up, but she had come out that week and sort of,


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[Assistant] Given Dan Campbell the vote of confidence and said that I know he doesn't need to hear me say this because I tell him all the time, but I want all of you to hear me say this. And I remember having the conversation with Dan Campbell that week. How do you actually teach a team?


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[Assistant] Ownership in Detroit had patience with Dan Campbell. Eventually, they won a close game, and then they rattled off to a ton of wins. And you saw how they ended the season. It's another reason.


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[Assistant] Of why you should have patience. And why you need to have patience with your coaches. And why you need to have patience with certain players. Because once it breaks, it can break. It can't break until it breaks the first time. If that makes sense.


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[Assistant] I don't, you know, I can't give you any sort of degree, I can't say with any degree of confidence.


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[Assistant] I know he's in a better spot than he was when he was pressed into starting against the Ravens. I think this, a lot of this right now comes down to PJ Walker's turnover issue.


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[Assistant] He's got to clean that up. He full well knows that he has to clean that up. Each one kind of has its own story, but still there's nothing more important than taking care of the football and protecting the football. And so at some point,


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[Assistant] If Deshaun Watson isn't healthy, if he cannot go, if it looks like there's a long period of time in this case, then...


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[Assistant] Yes, that could be considered, but again, I'm going to preface all of this by saying I think that there is optimism surrounding Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] What's up guys, uh, no bye week, I mean no game this week, it is the bye. Which means there's not a two minute post game show, however.


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[Assistant] Fanatics.com slash UCSS. It has all the best Brown's gear on the market. Plus.


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[Assistant] You help UCSL, UCSS out on the backend and real quick, we did a poll result and I'm going to read you guys the poll result here.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's get into our offensive line deep dive here guys. And before we get into the numbers, I have a question for you.


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[Assistant] Each of you go around the horn. Jay, we'll start with you, we'll end with Bull. Okay. What do you think the Browns offensive line has been worse at this season? Run blocking or pass blocking?


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[Assistant] So we're gonna present the numbers. Okay. And we're gonna revisit that exact same question afterwards. Alright. Okay, so we're gonna do it like this. And we'll start. The three systems I use for certain graphics, and it's gonna be the first one we see.


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[Assistant] Comes from ESPN, PFF, and SIS, which is a sports information system. Does all the, uh, analytics. Ben Wallwood puts it all together. Right. And we're gonna start with the Browns Run Blocking Composite Score. So this takes from three different sources. The top score is 100.


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[Assistant] That's the best. According to PFF, the Browns offensive line, regardless of which five guys it is, that unit has great as a 21 overall through four weeks, according to PFF and run blocking ESPN, I was at a 40 SIS is a 56. That is 25th overall in the league. Now, before we move to the next slide,


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[Assistant] What is 25th overall? Their total composite score, which is a 39. So their total composite of a 39 is 25th.


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[Assistant] So that's the composite scores. Now here's the deep dive into the run blocking from the offensive line. And this I found fascinating. Yards before contact. An important stat leading to any good running back.


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[Assistant] Oh, you can take it here full, Steve. In 2020, the Browns offensive line average giving their running backs 2.39 yards per carry before contact. That was 12th in the league. In 2021, same number 3.39. It was 10th.


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[Assistant] In 2022, it was 2.48, which is fourth. This year, they're currently ranked sixth at 2.72. However,


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[Assistant] Look at everything else. I'm curious. So there's a hundred real quick. So at that number for the 2.72, 103 carries.


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[Assistant] So if you take one, you're still like in a sample size of 102 caries. So 25 caries. 2.06 yards per caries. So they've actually been very good.


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[Assistant] Highest graded score when it came to run blocking. Now in the composites for the past blocking, SIS looks at this in a completely different light.


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[Assistant] Their overall composite score between ESPN, PFF, and SIS is a 71 in terms of protecting the pastor. That ranks 11th in the NFL. PFF gives them an 82, ESPN gives them a 92, and SIS, which we've mentioned before, is strictly numbers and analytics. Gives them a 48 for an 11 overall.


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[Assistant] Pull it up real quick. Uh, according to ESPN. Yeah. And here's this chart right here in the run blocking composite for ESPN. Oh, it just ranks them by composite. I apologize, but I can. Well, but you could see.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, that's PFF ninth. On ESPN, they are... Gotta be top five. Third.


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[Assistant] It does. I would assume it does. SIS definitely does.


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[Assistant] It goes both ways. There are times when the offensive line blocks properly and the back doesn't see the hole.


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[Assistant] So let's talk about the pass blocking thing real quick. So they overall graded out well.


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[Assistant] But when you look at the other side of the numbers, I don't know, did the run great out well?


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[Assistant] Some of the numbers are weird. Now, Brown's quarterbacks this season, these are all quarterbacks with at least 30 pass attempts, which eliminates guys who have just played garbage time. Essentially one start. DTR had 3.23.


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[Assistant] seconds before he released the ball in the game against Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Now this is out of quarterbacks with at least 30, uh, basketball attempts this season. It's the second highest time to throw in the entire NFL. Deshaun Watson, one below. Third, 3.14. You combine those together. The average of a Brown's quarterback to throw this season is 3.19 seconds. Now you could look at that two different ways.


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[Assistant] Are they holding onto the ball too long? Is the offensive line actually giving them more time to throw than we give them credit for? Is that elusiveness from the quarterback?


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[Assistant] I wanna bring up one more thing, Stevie, pull the graph back up.


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[Assistant] On 11.6% of Brown's dropbacks this year, it's resulted in a sack that's 6 in the league. The Giants are at 17.2. This is a Patrick Mahom stat I found, but I want to throw it in here. Just cause it's going to blow your guys mind. Deshaun Watson for comparison.


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[Assistant] Has been sacked on 25% of the drop backs he's been pressured. Which is right around league average. So 25% of the time there's pressure if he takes a sack. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] On the flip side of elite, we gotta talk about 71. This is tough.


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[Assistant] And there's two graphics, we'll do em both, and then you guys can react.


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[Assistant] We'll start with the PFF grades, which once again, we have proven is not a perfect science.


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[Assistant] But it's really the only apples to apples comparison where you can rank up other guys you're not watching, so.


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[Assistant] So overall, he has a 45.4 grade this year. That ranks 95th out of 104 qualified tackles. His pass blocking grade, a 53.8, that's 74th out of 104. Uh, one of those pass blocking tackles did not actually, uh, block on a run play.


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[Assistant] His 44 run blocking grade is 101st out of 103. He's allowed 18 pressures through 4 games. That is 4 and a half pressures per game. He's on pace to allow 77 pressures this season. Now, Bull's gonna ask,


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[Assistant] Well, what's the context? What's the most pressures that guys allow per season? Well, last year, Ed Ingram of the Vikings led the league with most pressures allowed, 63, 14 less than Willson on pace for in 2021.


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[Assistant] Alex Leatherwood, who's now on the Browns practice squad, led the league in pressures allowed with 67, 10 fewer than he's on pace for this season. In 2020, Juwan Taylor, the new right tackle for the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] We'll get to them, we're going player by player, so we'll get to that in one sec in terms of pressures allowed. I have that for all five offensive lines. Could you tell me just... It is significantly more.


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[Assistant] And real quick, before you go, I got one more, two more things on Jed Wills. So he's allowed 36.7% of the pressures that the Browns as a team have allowed. That's the third highest individual pressure rate compared to their team in the entire NFL.


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[Assistant] And I'm not exactly sure the formula PFF uses for the pass block efficiency rating. Trent Williams and Panay Sewell, the Lions, both have a hundreds. They lead, they lead the league through four weeks in pass block efficiency. Jed Willis is a 93.7, which ranks 82nd. So even a six point gap from 94 essentially to a hundred drops you down 80. 82nd out of how many?


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[Assistant] Alright. So we still got the other three. We're going to skip Ethan Pochich, but we'll do Dewan Jones and the two guards. Dewan Jones, based off those similar numbers, 55 and a half overall PFF grade, which ranks 55 out of 104. His pass block, he's been pretty impressive. 71.5.


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[Assistant] Uh, it literally does not get worse. He's the lowest rated run blocking tackle according to PFF in all of football. He's allowed eight pressures this season on pace for 34, which is right around league average. That is almost for a rookie.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we talked about the tackles, and- Why are we blowing off poachers? Just because we don't have enough time? We'll probably not have enough time. Alright, but- Because, but Tonio, I know we're gonna spend a little bit of time on- He's next, so-


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[Assistant] We're gonna go overall, run block, pass block. I'm gonna give you a little context to each of those. So overall, Batonia's been fine. He's not been the all-pro, all-world Batonia we'd be accustomed to, but...


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[Assistant] He's been fine. His 65.2 overall grade ranks 25th. His pass blocking grade a 74, 13th out of 97, a 51.1 run blocking grade. To give you a little context on those.


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[Assistant] It's the lowest overall grade of his career. It's the lowest run grade of his career and it's the first time he's ever been in the fifties as a run blocker, according to PFF.


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[Assistant] And his pass blocking grades have been an 80 plus in each of the last seven seasons. And real quick, in terms of the pass block, he's 32. He's allowed eight pressures this season, same as Dewan Jones, that's on pace for 34, which is typically league average.


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[Assistant] He's never allowed more than 22 in each of the last seven seasons. So, Betonio has even taken a bit of a step back early on this season as well.


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[Assistant] We got last one, we'll save the poachers stuff, maybe that'll be an overtime nugget I give out to our members of the Ultimate Cleaners Sportship. We've got Showtime. No overtime today. Coming up in a sec.


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[Assistant] I can still put on the members of the community tab. There's ways to get information to our members because they deserve it. Uh, Wyatt Taylor, very similarly graded to Betonio. He's actually been a little better than Betonio if you look at the PFF grades and the numbers is.


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[Assistant] Overall grades, two spots higher, slightly higher pass blocking grade, a 74.8, a 63.3 run block grade, which is 20 spots higher than Betonio. He's only allowed five pressures. When you add the pressures combined on the left side of the line versus the right side, Jones and Teller combined have allowed 13 pressures.


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[Assistant] It's 26 between Wills and Betonia. Most of the pressures, most of the pressures coming from the left side, which is not ideal for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] On your TVs, on the WKYC Plus app to us at 1230. With that, let's bring in our world champion, Voxit, the one, the only show. There he is. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, I don't like that look.


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[Assistant] It was pretty good. Okay, Mike. Uh, we got some super chats that we're going to get as many keep cut trades in as possible. We actually have a keep cut trade suggestion from a super chat. So I want to end with that one. Uh, first one comes from simple as stupid as it sounds with the alleged burner account that was supposedly Watson's. Could he have done that as a yeah, look, you need me type kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Uh, Pee Wee's Burner says media is always just trying to stir the pot. Y'all stupid. Thanks Pee Wee.


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[Assistant] Darryl Perriman says Tfanski can scheme people open, but that's irrelevant because he's a bad situational play caller and abandons the run. Yea, that person doesn't know what he's talking about. Way too early. We love Darryl. Love you Darryl. Darryl chimed in again. Darryl's a good fan. Lane Andrew Berry for Jed Wills. He drafted a right tackle in hopes of making him a standout left tackle. That's not an easy swap.


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[Assistant] Two more. Fields came out throwing dimes last night. Go Bucks. Justin Fields did look good. He leads the NFL touchdown pass.


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[Assistant] TaintedStudioWooder, any guest with internet issues or Jed Wills. Keep cut trade.


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[Assistant] To make the playoffs, you need to win this game to make the playoffs. Keep cup trade. Tomlin, variable or hardball. This is correct, Steve. Yes.


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[Assistant] Give me hardball. Give me hardball all day. Alright, next up. You're down four. There's 70 seconds to play. You have one timeout. Keep cut trade. Mahomes, Brady, Elway. Oh, wow.


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[Assistant] No doubt. All right. Yeah. All right. Next up, based on this season, how about, this is one I never thought I'd ask, Pooka Nakua, Aman Rasayn Brown, and C.D. Lamb.


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[Assistant] You got 40 seconds for the last one. I definitely want to get this in 40 seconds. CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, Baker Mayfield this season. Keep cut trade. I'm keeping. 30 seconds.


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[Assistant] So, and I have the Apple Maps playing for the radar. Right. And it said speed check ahead. So I slowed down.


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[Assistant] I got away, so I pulled over before he even hit his lights. I was in the berm. And he came up and he said, you know, I pulled you over. I said, yeah, I was in the berm before you hit your lights. You were coming. And I said, just tell me, did it start with a nine? No.


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[Assistant] I made the argument in July that Deshaun Watson should play more this preseason for exactly this reason. Because of the long layoff, everything else, knock the rust off, whatever you want. The importance of the season, the importance of getting off to a good start.


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[Assistant] Knowing that you had three divisional games. So if you want to look at who to point the finger to, I point the finger at Kevin Stefanski for not playing him more in the preseason and also the fact


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[Assistant] I do think that he should have played more in the preseason. I know I said I didn't like Denzel Ward playing and that's true. I don't like that because it's, it's different factors. Look at Denzel's injury history. What are you going to gain from him playing in that meaningless game against the Chiefs?


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[Assistant] I said at the time I thought he should have been playing more in the preseason, and I stand by that, and now you're kind of seeing it. But we talk about this every year, that with the teams that don't play a lot in the preseason, they look a little disjointed.


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[Assistant] Don't lose faith in me. Like, we're gonna figure this out. Or is that sort of understood? I guess I'm just wondering, as a quarterback, how do you handle that in the locker room? And are there signs we should be looking for that guys lose faith in them?


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[Assistant] And oftentimes it's just lip service, but I believe it's true with the, with the Browns and how they feel. And plus miles has been carrying the Browns and put the Browns on his back for years. He's used to it. That's nothing new.


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[Assistant] Shot, stabbed, burned, and buried the bodies of the Browns for all week long. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I know you have. It's setting up for a bi-week firing, but it depends on what those look like. It's hard to say without seeing how they look. I think they're going to be tuned to it to buy.


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[Assistant] And I told you guys, I didn't have a good feeling. Even if they won Monday, I didn't think I was going to pick them to win this game because it was such a physical game in a short


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[Assistant] It, it's not just, it's not just Kevin, it's the fact that those are two really good, I mean they're two of the jewels of the NFL, two of the best head coaches as far as I'm concerned leading them. Like Tomlin and Harbaugh, we talk about there's the only handful of coaches that really have an impact and are elite coaches.


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[Assistant] And so that's, I mean, the Browns are fighting an uphill battle just from the start when you have two of the premier franchises in the NFL historically over the last 25 years. Now you've got the Bengals with Burrow in there.


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[Assistant] And I know they didn't, but if they, if, if Jed makes that block on Highsmith and they win that game, the tenor of today in this entire week is totally different.


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[Assistant] He's coming back here and playing. Teresa was talking about that yesterday. Being a hometown kid, he's 2-0 in Cleveland as a coach.


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[Assistant] I never thought he was an elite coach. I thought he had an elite quarterback. And he bailed. As soon as Drew Brees retired, Peyton bailed.


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[Assistant] It's holding you to three rather than six. And obviously with the punishing running style like that.


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[Assistant] That showed something, and I know it didn't carry the rest of the year, but to be able to put that behind him and come back.


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[Assistant] You know, this loss in Pittsburgh on Monday night had that same gut punch feel for obviously very different reasons. So I think that they are capable of putting it behind them. The motivation to play well for Nick, all of that stuff.


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[Assistant] It all plays a factor in that. And as Jay said, the defense, I'm just not.


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[Assistant] We'll see. I also heard the same thing about, wait to see Deshaun, and we've seen it. So, but they have a lot of confidence that Jerome Ford's gonna be just fine. He did have a couple of nice runs Monday night, and now with a whole week's worth of reps, like that's important to understand too, like he wasn't getting starters reps in practice. Well, he is now, and it was a short week, but he's got starters workloads.


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[Assistant] We'll find out. Jason. I'm Jason Lloyd. I'm going to tell you why Jeffrey Simmons and that defensive line of the Titans against Wyatt Teller and Joel Batonio of the Browns is going to probably decide who wins this game. Mikey.


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[Assistant] I do, I am high on Kevin Stefanski, but you have to go with Mike Vrabel on this only because the Titans don't beat themselves. Like this is not a team that...


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[Assistant] Commits a ton of penalties, turns the ball over a lot. They play sound defense, they run the ball well, and you're right. They win with average quarterback. Play Ryan Tannehill at best is average. They don't have a ton of posties success because of it.


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[Assistant] You need elite quarterback play to win in the playoffs, but you can win a lot of regular seasons with their style of play. I like Mike variable a lot. He has not lost in Cleveland as a head coach.


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[Assistant] Jay, what do you got? I like Jeffrey Simmons against the Titans, of the Titans against Wyatt Teller, Joel Batonio, and Ethan Pochik on the inside of the Browns' interior defensive line. Uh, he's elite. And he's already got two sacks this year. And Wyatt Teller gave up a couple of inside pressures last week that's really unusual for him.


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[Assistant] Lario Gojobi beat him on a play and Wyatt, you know, we talked about this on the show this week. Wyatt spent so much time Monday night.


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[Assistant] In Dewan Jones' ear, telling, literally telling Dewan where to go and what his blocking schemes were and what his assignments were.


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[Assistant] Like I understand Dewan's a rookie. He's a fourth round pick. He was not expected to be in the spot this early. He's got to know his assignments.


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[Assistant] And I had the binoculars on him all night and Wyatt was in his ear to the point where I think it actually impacted Wyatt's play in that game. So just the Browns offensive line in general.


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[Assistant] Pass protection wise is going to be key in this game. Watson's been under pressure all year long, really, in both the first two games. What's he been sacked? Seven times, I think it is?


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[Assistant] Nine times in the first two games. And even when he hasn't been brought down, the teams are still getting heat on him. He's holding the ball too long. I don't think he's seen the field as well as he should be. So for a variety of reasons.


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[Assistant] I just think it's the Simmons matchup on the, against the inside. I'll be very brief here.


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[Assistant] Excited at first and nervous, you know, if things get off track quickly, I think it's going to be a lot of booze in that stadium. But obviously people be excited to see Kareem back. I have zero expectations of Kareem Hunt. You don't go from Planet Fitness on Monday to playing in a NFL game on Sunday. Like I just, I,


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[Assistant] He cannot possibly be in game shape. Did you see him yesterday? Someone that saw him said he looked 10 pounds lighter. He has lost a little bit of weight and that's fine, but there's a big difference in being in shape and being in game shape. He cannot possibly be in game shape. That's impossible without playing.