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[Assistant] Like I'm not taking shots at you personally. I'm just giving you my opinion on how I feel. Like I want you to go out there and shut me up. I want you to go out there and be that dude who like, he gon' always put up numbers. Darius Garland has always put up numbers, but to be honest, sometimes the stats are empty.


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[Assistant] Like, not even the fact, like, it was cool to see Jared Allen and Caris LaVert in particular kinda like be the leading scorers and kinda lead the way. 12 rebounds, 8 assists, 18 points, like, the dude, like, his shot selection was awesome. It seemed like he picked his spots in his moments, like, very well.


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[Assistant] I thought Jared Allen did a great job taking advantage of a weak Washington Wizards, uh, front court. Like they allowed like the third or second most rebounds to opposing centers or something like that.


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[Assistant] And so like, you know, kudos to everybody for understanding what their opponent was and kind of like maximizing on that game plan. It was actually one of those games to where Donovan Mitchell was gonna be off and you could tell he was still ill, still dealing with whatever he's dealing with. This was the perfect opponent.


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[Assistant] And it's many games against this particular team that we've played down to against our opponent. And going back to before the All-Star break, when we played Philly and Philly was missing damn near everybody and they beat us.


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[Assistant] The cats clearly have shown, like, they need to tighten up all some things. And Donovan Mitchell alluded to that as well. So, I trust that they'll get it together. Like, it's, like, they'll clean it up and get it right when it's time.


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[Assistant] I mean, to G's point, I think Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs will have to do something crazy, like overtake Boston for the 1C, for him to even be considered. And even still, I don't think that's enough.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think in the NBA, more than any other sport, what you do in the postseason.


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[Assistant] It really matters. It really resonates with those voters and those writers more than anything else. And I think because of what the Cavs didn't do in the postseason last year, it's the reason why people might feel like the Cleveland Cavaliers is being slighted this year. It might be a reason why Donovan Mitchell was not, you know, a starter in the All-Star game for example this year.


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[Assistant] Things like that I think play a part, but in order for him to even get top five consideration, the Cavs will have to do something like outside of this world. Possibly like overtake Boston. Don't really see that happening, but with all that being said,


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[Assistant] You could just tell how important he is to our team. You know what I mean? Like, you could tell the difference in energy, difference in the level of focus, difference in how the other players assert themselves, etc.


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[Assistant] Even, we talk about, you know, Darius Garland coming up in the clutch moment. Like, even that happened with Donovan Mitchell being present. And it just seemed like his mere presence, it elevates everybody else on that team.


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[Assistant] So you're outside your mind. Come on out. Really? Man, the Cavs are what? The Cavs are like what? Six and five without Donovan Mitchell this year?


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[Assistant] I think they were seven and seven without Donovan Mitchell last year. So basically without Donovan Mitchell and everything else, the Cavs is a teetering 500 team. So you telling me that based on the stats, since people want to throw stats at everything, they are teetering 500 team without Donovan Mitchell. They're nothing more than a play-in team. They in a play-in tournament without Spider.


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[Assistant] Just for both of y'all, I just, just, this just came to me. Look at these five players, right? No, ehm, bring that back, or Steve, bring that back. Look at those-


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[Assistant] Alright, so look at those five players, right? Right. Of those five teams, which team has sustained success the most without one of those players on their team?


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[Assistant] Well, first and foremost like that, you talk about pay raise and pay salaries, man.


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[Assistant] That, that media deal, that media revenue deal, the significance and increase of dollars, like this was a 13.6% jump in salary. That's the largest since 1994, right? And I read somewhere earlier, like in 2025, it's projected to be at 273.3. That's if it keeps


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[Assistant] If it keeps climbing, but that's, that's the projection for next year. Still not as big of a leap as this year, but still, like they're getting crazy money. I mean, as far as how it directs, like directly impacts Andrew Barry's approach to free agency.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think it makes it better because they were already operating in a red. And according to Over the Cap, I looked at this this morning.


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[Assistant] You know, this puts the Browns still there in the red, but it's like 7.7 million somewhere around there. So you're still going to have to restructure some contracts in order for you to make some moves.


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[Assistant] To me, I mean, it can only help. You know, Andrew Barry had did the right thing by rolling over money from last year's cap to this year's cap.


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[Assistant] Okay, once the revenue takes off, there's going to be an increase in the salary cap anyway. So as, as, as, you know, bleak as it might look on the surface, you know, with the 63.995 cap hit for Deshaun Watson and a 23 for Omari, the 23 for Miles Garrett, like,


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[Assistant] I'm in 23 for this day award to 24 Miles Garrett. You still gonna have to be able to do that, but I think one of the players, we talk a lot about restructuring Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Man, you can restructure Myles Gershville right now and give him a brand new contract because he's earned it since he's won Defensive Player of the Year and that'll automatically erase that $23 million cap for this year.


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[Assistant] I would, because you're gonna have to pay him new money in the next coming years anyway. So that's one way to like go about it.


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[Assistant] That's why other owners don't like Jimmy. His pockets deeper than theirs. Yeaah. He's playing the whole different ballpark.


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[Assistant] You know, T. Higgins was off the market. I did this crazy ass list of wide receivers that the Browns should go after. It was crazy. Like, T. Higgins knew he wasn't gonna be on the market. I really don't think Mike Evans...


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[Assistant] I wouldn't just throw crazy free aging dollars at anybody. I just, like I get it, we need a legit number two, but I just started to come around to this like.


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[Assistant] Man, if I could get me a legit young past rusher to go opposite of Miles Garrett, I'm doing that. Like, you know, I think it was Friday's show, you all was like debating Brian Burns, like Brian Burns is that dude. That dude is him.


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[Assistant] And he's like 24, 25 years old. So you get him, you can lock him up long-term and stop messing around with these one-year deals with these, you know, second level veterans. Get you a real player. You know what I mean? That, that can go opposite of Myles Garrett. And if that's where you spend your cap dollars at, I will be more than happy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you know exactly where I was going when I was coming up with these different scenarios.


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[Assistant] Okay, typically when somebody hits free agency, there's a reason.


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[Assistant] There's a, a significant need for a cornerback, rather a number one or number two cornerback for about 20 teams. And I was going through and I was reading on these teams that need a corner. And again, I know this is crazy, right? But Detroit, the Detroit Lions,


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[Assistant] deploy three corners that are god awful. They gave up like 7.3 yards per attempt, which was third worst in the entire NFL.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, we talk about we need somebody that can stretch the field that's not a little guy.


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[Assistant] Jamison Williams is 6 foot 1 and the dual got wheels, right? Now, why would Detroit trade him? They have no incentive to trade somebody they just drafted in the first round two years ago. But last season he had 24 receptions on just 42 targets.


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[Assistant] He's being underutilized because they got Ahmad Ross Saint Brown. You got Sam Laporta. Uh, we don't know if Josh Reynolds is going to be back, but I would think he'll be back. He was the number one, number two wide receiver last year. And you got a runner back in Jameer Gibbs who can catch the football.


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[Assistant] Out the backfield. So this is one of those things to where one hand washes the other. I'm Detroit. I got a damn good football team. I got a damn good offense, but I know like I need to cover wide receivers.


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[Assistant] And I got weak cornerbacks. I don't know what this market is going to look like, right? Talk your stuff, talk your stuff Earl. Talk to him, talk to him Earl. That's what I like to hear.


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[Assistant] Because it's not even like Jameson Williams has lived up to his potential, right? Like this dude was supposed to be the next big thing. All I'm saying is a change of scenery might do him some good. That's a position to where I feel like if I'm Detroit, man, I got people that can catch the football. I ain't got nobody who can really cover these wide receivers.


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[Assistant] So real quick, the chances that we acquired a wide receiver that we know we need via trade or via free agency, which you think is more likely? I think it's more likely via trade.


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[Assistant] I was born in 87, you play here 88 to 94, so I only know the stories and the tapes that my grandfathers and my uncles have shown me.


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[Assistant] But, you know, out of all the, uh, defensive tackles that's in the Hall of Fame, all of them do is got five pro bowls, you got six. You know, four times, either all pro first or second team, you win the AFC defensive player of the year, your second year, and yet you in the Hall of Fame are very good, in your opinion, because your resume is crazy.


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[Assistant] So speaking of, uh, former Clemson Tigers and Cleveland Browns, there's a former Clemson Tiger, uh, by the name of Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Who was once deemed the Michael Jordan. His coach called first, once called him the Michael Jordan of football. Uh, from one Clifton Tiger. Talk about Deshaun Watson. Do you believe that he can return to that quote unquote Michael Jordan of football form that he once had?


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[Assistant] I gotta follow up before G go because, uh, Mr. Perry, you know, we asked a lot of players.


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[Assistant] A lot of athletes current and former athletes just questions, and it seems like most former players or current players believe that he can get back to that. Meanwhile, people like in the media, like myself or fans, they say no. So like, what is it that former athletes see?


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[Assistant] Like with that third eye that we don't see that truly make you all believe that.


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[Assistant] I'm from here, I'm born and raised here, right? And I know predominantly now a lot of athletes, they stay on the west side. So like, late 80s, early 90s, if you played for the Brawls, like, was you an east side or on the west side?


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[Assistant] I'm like Gito, like I was born at 87 and my grandfather, my father has always told me the stories about Michael Dean Perry. Like a lot of people talk about Clay Matthews, but he has said that people never talk about Michael Dean Perry enough.


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[Assistant] I bet you he went to the drive-thru, he got it for a dollar ninety-nine, and he got it in less than two minutes. You go to the drive-thru today, you sit in there ten minutes before they even take your damn order, and then you gonna sit there another five minutes before they take your damn money, and then they gonna give you your food or your fries probably damn cold. They gave you two napkins, no straw, no ketchup.


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[Assistant] I gotta give my boy some love. I'll probably clip this off and I'll show him later. Shout out to my homie man Slim Bull, my man Rick.


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[Assistant] Here, take, I'm not, I'm not joking. Pass that to him. 25 leg par lay. Okay, you're cooking. You're cooking.


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[Assistant] I mean I think it's for a lot of the same reasons, like, baseball's dominant fan base is older.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, it's a dying breed, right? You know what I mean? And then like locally here, you got people who are pissed off for a lot of different reasons. People feel like the Dolans don't spend money, so there's no reason to get excited. You got people who are frustrated because they changed the name of the team, so.


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[Assistant] They don't even follow the team no more. You got people, we talked about, you know, the ballies part of it, who financially can't afford to watch the team, so they've lost interest overall. I think it's a lot of different, uh,


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[Assistant] I enjoy baseball, like I enjoy watching the Guardians play. I enjoy going to the Guardians games. I think that they got out of the three teams, their fan experience in person is the best of the three teams. That's just my personal opinion. Like football games in person I absolutely hate.


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[Assistant] To come out and hopefully this young talent can like hit the ground running and give me a reason to be excited but I have no reason to do so right now.


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[Assistant] So I'm looking at the chat and based on like the chat.


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[Assistant] And the Guardians might have the most players of color on their team. I think that economics and, you know, all these paid travel fees and things like that, like,


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[Assistant] If you in the inner city and you from the hood, man, your mama and your daddy might not can afford to see you on the travel league. I think that something needs to be done. That's a good idea, but the interest is, will be there. You know, it was put more out in front of people. Like it's funny because a lot of kids want to grow up and they want to play in the NFL because it's cool.


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[Assistant] But, if they actually knew and understood, like, man, my son need to be going to play baseball. He gonna have a longer career, he gonna make more money, and post-career, you know, more often than not, his mind is gonna be in the right shape.


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[Assistant] These, these go both ways. Like I tell, I tell Mike all the time, it's only one reason why people won't admit that Christian McCaffrey is the best runner back in football. It's only one reason.


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[Assistant] Hey, I needed this. This was a fun show. I wasn't gonna say nothing, but I really needed this, man. Prayers to my baby brother. Uh, my baby brother was stabbed yesterday and he's had two surgeries already. Uh, like just fighting for his life, trying to pull through.


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[Assistant] I told Mike yesterday, I said, man, I still want to come to work. I still want to do the show and lock in. Uh, I feel a whole lot better. And that's what happens when you're around positive people who do their best to love you the best they can. So I love you, bro. Get better.


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[Assistant] Hold on, first of all, where you get these jerseys from, bro? Yeah, all of a sudden. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, Earl, listen, Earl got these jersey heads, the Donovan Mitchell June on, now he got the Moblin. Let me see. Yeah, it's sewn on. Okay. I don't even want to go. Be out here with that iron on, boy. I like it.


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[Assistant] No? Yeah, yeah, I guess. Okay. Uhm, so. That was the 80s. Here's the thing. When you talk about the budgets, right? Yeah. Like, so shout out to Hype Williams. When you get into the late 90s. Yeah. Early 2000s onto the 2010s. I think it'll stop probably.


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[Assistant] And then uhm, yeaah, but now you don't see them too much anymore.


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[Assistant] Bryce Youngs are headed like some dope people.


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[Assistant] This will be the fourth season coming up. The way I look at it, like, is this. One of the things that we always interject and put into it is basically injuries.


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[Assistant] You know, if a person's injured for a whole year or, or consistently injured, I think one of the things that we do is we naturally take some points off. Uhm, because you, you, you haven't seen that level of play in this and, you know, you, you're just basically guessing. If he was to play, what would he look like?


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[Assistant] If he was to play, would he be a top 10 quarterback? And because we only have what we go on, uh, for, you know, the six games or 11 games that he played or whatever the case may be, it's natural for people to be like, no, I don't believe it. Like, or yeah, I'm seeing, I'm seeing this person all the time. And you know, my dad used to always say this. He says, man,


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[Assistant] You can like girlfriends all you want. I don't try, high school girlfriends don't count.


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[Assistant] He's like, uh, the only reason you talk to that girl is because if I didn't make you go to school and your, and her parents didn't make her go to school, we go to jail. So.


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[Assistant] That's the only reason y'all talk, like y'all ain't got nothing in common. You ain't even developed no personality. So like proximity is in recency is what we look at. And if you're looking at that just like that, like if we haven't seen him play, we haven't, we don't have enough faith to say.


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[Assistant] Oh, well, I just saw Josh Allen for all these, for all these yards. You making it up a little bit. Like if you, you like really like, okay, I like that person. So I'm going to give it a bit of a doubt. So for me, it's all about what you do and how often and recent you've done it. So if they want to put Deshaun Watson at two.


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[Assistant] 24, 27, there's really nothing you can say about it. You just gotta respect it and say, well, you know, go out and prove it wrong. But I can't be mad at somebody saying he's in the twenties because he hasn't played enough. Like that's not their job to go look around and be completely fair to everybody. They just going by what they're seeing.


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[Assistant] I think, I think a lot of it goes on likeability too. Uhm, look, Daniel Jones is, is, I think Daniel Jones, he got him what, 15 or 16? No, no, no.


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[Assistant] Desmond Ritter is not going to be a quarterback. Yeah, he's not good. Bryce Young was not good. David Derrick Carr was not good last year.


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[Assistant] Now, now take a look at this. Do you know offhand what Tua's numbers is? His uh, his uh, yards and touchdowns and stuff?


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[Assistant] There you go. There you go. I don't wanna talk about it.


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[Assistant] Hey dude, dude, sometimes, you know, one of my favorite lines, Lupe Fiasco said, I ain't gotta say it to say it.


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[Assistant] I don't gotta just specifically be like, you know, I don't like you at all. But, but, but here's the thing. He thinks that Tua is a poser. He thinks Tua is a poser. He has weapons, but he's not no quarterback that he would, he would put it in that.


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[Assistant] He like, like, it's, it's like one of them things like, you know, we all got a, a, a, an affinity or a perception of who we like. He like what he like, but, but you, there are, there are some objective things, right? You could have an opinion, but it comes, there's a, there's a, uh, there's a baseline.


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[Assistant] And if you go below that baseline, then you could be disregarded. If somebody came in and somebody said, hey man, Desmond Ritter is better than Mahomes. The conversation's over, I can't talk to you.


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[Assistant] I think that this guy's opinion is more in line with the Browns' opinion, the Browns' fans' opinion of Deshaun Watson. Like, you know, I wish people would just call a spade a spade. There's a lot of people, I would say over 50% of the people do not like Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Think about it like this. Baker on there is 18. Baker shouldn't be 18.


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[Assistant] If you based it on last year, his season, we'd be hired or not. But they don't like, but Baker has a contingency of people who are never gonna come around on him.


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[Assistant] I think that the lynchpin and the argument is what Earl said. He got, he got Richardson there and Richardson played like three games. He got hurt like in four games.


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[Assistant] Then, even, even, uh, Richardson. Will Levis is at 28. He did go into Miami and get a win. Like, Will Levis didn't play, like, like, he's not a gang buster or something, but, I mean, Justin Fields showed me more than that.


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[Assistant] He gotta be inside that top, like 12. But will he be?


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[Assistant] That's where they gotta have them at, like that. Like this is, this is all, this is, I love the pressure as a matter of fact. If I could, I'd tell them to put them at a 90th.


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[Assistant] So he can have that chip on his shoulder and go out and play ball. But top 12 is the expectation level. Here's the thing, if he plays like he did in the second half against the Ravens, easy top 12.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence, you could make an argument for. You could also take a look at...


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[Assistant] If you could make an argument for a couple dudes. And you gotta think about it this too, boo.


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[Assistant] If they throw, like last year, you gotta think, I mean, their offense was not like, oh, let's throw the ball downfield or anything. If you throw the ball five to eight more times a game.


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[Assistant] His, his, now his yard is could theoretically be, even if he's playing medium sauce, 3,800 yards.


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[Assistant] You just put T. Higgins on his roster. Yep. Would you have more confidence in him?


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[Assistant] But what we was running and what Houston was running is two different things.


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[Assistant] We, we were sold that every single quarterback, if you have a, if you're a franchise quarterback,


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[Assistant] It don't matter who your coach is. It don't matter what your weapons look like. You gonna make everybody better and you can just have that person and win.


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[Assistant] I don't- I've never bought into that concept. I believe that there's a few special people in the world that can get that done, but for the majority of people- But I thought he was one of those guys.


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[Assistant] Well, well, if he turns out he's not that, but guess what? You can win.


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[Assistant] Being a top six guy, you just need to have the right offense and good coach, you gotta have some weapons, and you gotta be able to win in a different way.


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[Assistant] You know, Matt, I look at it. You take a look at those early, usual Belichick.


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[Assistant] And one of the things that's out is coaching staff and the people that came from it. Uh, Nick Saban, you have, I believe, Kurt Ferenc was one of our staff. I think even maybe even Gruden might have been, um,


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[Assistant] And it just seems like with the Browns, it was like, it was an experiment, uhm, that was a little early before his time. Didn't really have time to really gel and to see it through. And a lot of people, you know, have always thought, you go back and look at it and say, man, what would have it been


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[Assistant] If they would have had time, if they would have been able to do it, um, and then obviously the team moves, um, does, did you get the perception that he looks back at that time and says, you know, that was a great experiment. If we would have had time to do what we needed to do, do you think they would have been successful in Cleveland?


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[Assistant] I'mma move with it. I like what Earl said. So, you know me, I'm an operation stockpile. I not only need to figure out


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[Assistant] I want, listen, I'm not into experimenting. Jerome Ford is a nice third back.


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[Assistant] He's a third back. I'm not trying to see maybe he'll get better. I need a bona fide guy to go with Nick Chubb so I can give him the carries when Nick Chubb was good.


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[Assistant] Guess who else was good? Kareem Hunt was in his pride.


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[Assistant] And that's when you saw Prime Chubb, when you go back to them Baker years, when they did go to the playoffs, 2020. I need another running back. And by the way, I go redo his, his contract because the number one priority is wide receiver. So them doing that.


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[Assistant] Freeing up some money now gives me a little bit of time and energy and money to go get, get my wide receiver. So to me, I think it's the number one priority. Uhm, I think, you know, it deserves to be the number one priority because it is Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] Is the epitome of what all of y'all posers, y'all be lying. Y'all be like, we want guys to give the ball to football back to the referee. We don't want guys on social media. We don't want guys doing this in the club. We don't want guys showing their front. This guy does all that and above and yet and still the thing that irks me is.


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[Assistant] Oh, he not worth 16 million, even if they don't redo the contract. My thing is, y'all gave Jack Conklin all that doggone money and he ain't half the person Nick Chubb is. Don't be telling me about how Nick Chubb got to give money back and Jack Conklin has been on the gravy train. He's a steak eater.


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[Assistant] Listen, Nick Chubb is a bus driver. That man, if you gotta pay him to 16, we gon' find out and we gon' get it from somebody else.


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[Assistant] Payment 16, all that other stuff. Don't tell me about how you, you champion all this. No. If, if you, if that's what you respect, show the man a respect. Now you want him to give some money back because why? You made a mistake on Conklin?


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[Assistant] Here's a, here's a thing that I think the Browns have to get to.


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[Assistant] You know, we, we give and we sit here and we praise these other teams. We praise the Ravens. We praise the Steelers. We talk about how all these people, the Miami Heat have a culture. The Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Have been jokes for the most part of 40 years. For me, I even thought about it when I went home.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski won a coaching year again. That's two and four years. Why ain't he got a contract?


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[Assistant] But here's how you, here's how you show people respect and how you show them that you are valued. Coach of the year, boom, new money on the table. No waiting, we got a protocol, we got, we do it like this. No. When I look at the, when I look at the Ravens, Ray Lewis played for one team. Right. Ed Reed played for one team.


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[Assistant] When they got Jonathan Ogden, he was their tackle forever. And they made sure that at the end of their career, they knew where they were. And that builds culture. That builds who you are. Now when free agents come, they say, look,


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[Assistant] That's how we treat our family members. When you are a transition, when you are a generational type player, we respect what you gave to the team. We respect what you did. And now teams value you free agents and say, well, look, I might take a little less to go play for the Browns because of the way they treat their people.


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[Assistant] The Browns are a little unorthodox, right? Like when they looked at, like,


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[Assistant] And it turned out to be okay, right? They're playing, they're playing Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] A lot of money. People will say, why would you pay a Mark Cooper? Like, y'all gotta have to find-


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[Assistant] So, so, but here's the thing, but people was talking about that last year, they're gonna figure out something. And then Mario Cooper was like, no, I'm the all-time leading receiver in the game. You're not gonna figure that out.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady, as well as Michael Jordan, as well as LeBron James, have been the best people in their sport by a landslide. Like they're up here, everybody else is down here. But you know what they never were? They were never the highest paid.


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[Assistant] Jordan played one year for 30 million dollars, but he was never the highest paid. LeBron talks about it all the time. I could have got a, a jillion dollars, whatever the case might be. Deshaun Watson, he could come out and be like, look,


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[Assistant] We gon' make sure that we gon' keep our guys and we gon' get some more. You know how we gon' guarantee that? I don't care. They gotta kick the can down the road 70 years and give me the Bobby Bonilla deal. Like, we need to have- The Sho'e Otani deal. The Sho'e Otani. We need that money.


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[Assistant] I would give, I don't got no problem giving my money to go support the Browns, if financially.


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[Assistant] They're like, look, we are willing to put, like, for the Dodgers. Look.


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[Assistant] There's a reason why they can't get the cable deal they can get, right? Because it's the Dodgers. And they, you know, every single year, even if we don't win, they are doing everything in their possib, their, their pocketbooks to make sure that they, you are never gonna say the Dodgers' roster is lacking. They may not get it done in the end.


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[Assistant] I'll give it to them. When you got your office aligned and all of them is making a shout out to the guards and tack, I mean they picked Jed Wills up fifth year. They gave Conklin a new deal. Your guards is getting 13, 12, 13 a piece. They signed poachage. Yeaah. We can't hate on that.


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[Assistant] You had to choose. I think Miles Garret gonna retire early. So uhm.


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[Assistant] But did you, did you know that during the same time, there was three or four species of homogenous, uh, uh, uh, primates that walked earth at the same time, our cousins.


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[Assistant] I think as they said, Jack Conklin was, uh, he, because he is a Caucasian, he didn't deserve his money. But since Nick Chubb was black, he deserved his money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't disrespect them like that. I mean, the Cavs was a really good team.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? They just ran into that buzzsaw. There was a lot of good teams back then.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So I really can't disrespect those dudes.


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[Assistant] They gave, you know, buzzer beaters by Michael Jordan and those teams played against Bird, Magic, Isaiah Thomas, Dominique Wilkins, Patrick Ewing, some of the best top 50 guys of all time. I can't disrespect them. I may just be putting Karis LaVert in them up there. Like Sam Mero, I love Sam Mero. I can't put Sam Mero over Mark Prosserby, I yell.


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[Assistant] Just the best I've ever seen. Because that would be kinda like...


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[Assistant] I don't want to get disrespectful. That's kind of disrespectful. They put a lot of work in and them teams was a couple shots away from going to finals and competing. So those teams won three playoff series.


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[Assistant] In the 80s. In the 70s once. Off the top of the head, they got rid of, they, they retired Larry Bird, I believe in 90s, 90 something, they retired him, he, they beat him on that series. They won a series against Drazen Petrovic in the Nets. No, he was good. He was nice.


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[Assistant] Oh, they retired him. Wait, what? They retired him. They got him back, back, back. Like he was sitting on the bed. And then, uhm, they, but other than that, I can't think of the other series that they won off the top of my head. But, uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] There would be half the country that could never say Michael Jordan is the best player. If you were born in 1988 and you, yea, right, you didn't, I mean, yea, I don't, I don't


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[Assistant] And then you'd have to talk about specifically


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[Assistant] Listen, if you, if you, if you playing in that era, right? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And there's all these good players. I mean, these are legends. These ain't like, like, okay, I like Trey Young. Trey Young, not no legend. Like, you got Isaiah Thomas and you got, you know what I'm saying? You got John Stockton and Magic. Like, this ain't like, you know.


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[Assistant] There is a, there is a large contingency, like, and I know he's only been here a couple years, but.


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[Assistant] The comment Earl said is, is, it be paying dividends, it look like it be kinda true. Like, Donovan Mitchell might be the second best player in franchise history.


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell is the best, listen, he's the best player on the squad. When you play with LeBron, you get a bump. You get a boost. Mario Chalmers was rocking back in the day.


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[Assistant] I will give, I will give you that. The Cavs have a better work. But here's the thing too, people can give you this.


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[Assistant] With some of the best players in the world. James Harden, he didn't play with LeBron.


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[Assistant] He didn't, he didn't play with Kevin Durant. He didn't play with Luka Doncic. This dude is playing with, with, like, top ten players.


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[Assistant] Agree. Donovan Mitchell is playing with, with Max Truths.


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[Assistant] You saw about, I was watching and looking at it the other day.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'm saying though, when you got, listen, you got LeBron.


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[Assistant] There's a reason why he can even get that shot off. Cause there's three other dudes looking at him.


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[Assistant] In just two years, I'm just showing you the impact that it's a conversation. Because here's the thing, is it different? Listen, like, what's the difference between being a bus driver and a bus rider? They talk about it. Who has scored more points as a Cleveland Cavalier? Kyrie Irving or Donovan Mitchell? I mean, he's played there two years.


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[Assistant] Now, let me ask you this. Those second and third teams, did they come with the Cavs or other teams?


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[Assistant] So, so here's the thing. It's very close. It's very close. I'm not knocking Kyrie. Listen, if you said today...


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[Assistant] Who's more important? Obviously, it's Kyrie, right? That's why I've said he's gonna get his jersey retired. Some people don't like that. But Donovan Mitchell, to me, he won't, he won't surpass. No, he has to invest and stay. Kyrie was here. We've talked about it. If a team drafts you,


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[Assistant] And here's the thing, people have told me, hey look, Imani Bates is specifically there because they want to work on certain things, right? He told me, he said, look, they want them to work on some other stuff.


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[Assistant] I think that is, is rare that they had the mindset like, hey, I think the kid could play now, but we want them to work on X, Y, and Z. I think that's a unique perspective in basketball.


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[Assistant] I think he, here's the thing, I think he, I think he, what Sam Merrill gives you, I think he can give you that. However, there's, there's other things that, like, I think they, they would be like, listen, if I could go ahead and put him in the oven and preheat it to like 375, I can come back next year and he could potentially be a partner.


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[Assistant] They, they, Ohio State, when you had Conley and Olden and all those other guys coming out, Ohio State was a major player. This is what happens when you make these little lateral moves like that. I, I never liked them.


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[Assistant] You should see, listen, my, my wife, she's a, she's an accountant. Last year, I sent chocolate covered strawberries to everybody in her company. Oh my God. Like it was just an accountant. No, it was like, it was like 300 or something, but it was just the accounting department. She came to me the other day and said, she said, babe,


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[Assistant] I do not want you to send anymore strawberries. I would, I would like you to say you keep money in the account. I do not, I don't like that. She doesn't approve of that. Yeah. No, not good.


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[Assistant] There are very good YouTube channels with people who do, who do, like, what happened to five star guys. There's a, there's a couple good channels I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll swing into.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I don't think that was very good. I remember his throw back then. You know, he's not, uh, mean to go with this.


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[Assistant] He sounds like a member of the paid click affiliates.


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[Assistant] I told you I was off, off Jared Allen after he played the way he did in the postseason. I'm just now learning his name again.


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[Assistant] That was like, hey bro, you work, you didn't go to sleep. I was like, man, I was up the whole day. I know we thought you was dead.


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[Assistant] I'm going to thank everybody and the crowd was great today too. I'm behind the team and I'm just looking forward to the opportunity for next week. We play a really good team and we'll be ready to go.


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[Assistant] Gee Bush. I don't know why this was very easy. Everybody could have guessed this. You know, I could have went with a lot of people. Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Uh, no. I could've went with, uh, Dwayne Jones. I could've went with that. I could've went to, uh, you know, I could've went to, uh, Taki Taki. Right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like him. He's a, he's a, he's a, I like he's a solid citizen. I like that. Of course you looked at my notes. Monty Bates was on.


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[Assistant] See, listen, hey, Jason, I saw what you said yesterday. You almost gave him a compliment. We're working on it. We're wearing you down. You almost.


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[Assistant] You was almost there, but then you had to re-, you just had to just, listen, you had to take a back step, used to, you took the step back jumper, it was like, we have to talk a lot about it man, it's all the time. Listen, get used to it, you gonna talk about it. Listen, it don't matter if you gonna play this year, cause guess what, I'm already hedging my bets.


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[Assistant] Porter just got a deal. Merrill is ballin'. I got two out of the three, right? So here's the thing. I like, I like Imani Bates because...


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[Assistant] There's a lot of times we be telling these, these young kids, like they be having issues or problems and they just want to, they don't want to, they don't want to show them.


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[Assistant] That yeaah, you can have some issues, but you can be rehabilitator. You can come and still work hard. Everything that he said in his interview validated what I thought I had to get in front of him and see how he was when he was answering questions. And Earl asked him some tough questions. You know, he said, hey,


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[Assistant] Guess what? We thought, uh, you know, people say you're a second round pick, you in the G League, those guys don't pay it out how you say about that. He said, you know, we're going to come back and revisit that because I'm going to be a guy of confidence. I asked him, what do they want him to work on? He said, it's all about the defensive end of the court. So I think the dude going to show up. I think he going to show out in next year. Um, Jason Lloyd, you ain't got to say his name yet, but you will be writing articles next year and it will be for the Cleveland Cavaliers.


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[Assistant] Man, I used to have a dude, I used to think this dude was going to be the truth. Even more.


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[Assistant] He was, but then he just went on a clip. You just, you just meant, Bull said something twice, like, he's right, there, like, there's a whole topic in there about, like, superstars only in Cleveland. Like, because that's like a distinction, like, yea, it's true.


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[Assistant] By the way, Sam Merrill is going to be, uh, uh, he's going to become a household name. I'm going to say it right now in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, the league is gonna love him because he's gonna have a game where he hits about four or five threes and they're gonna go crazy.


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[Assistant] I think this is too, I think Earl, people don't understand.


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[Assistant] Is that true? Do you go down the list? I don't know. Listen. Ever?


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[Assistant] Generally, you know why you and I would bring that up? Because a lot of times they'll tell you, like when you were supposed to be on TV or something, they let you, oh you gotta be clean cut, you gotta have a fade, you can't have, you gotta cut that.


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[Assistant] You know who blew up? Uhm, and I don't even know, like, uh, it used to be your intern Miles.


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[Assistant] Well, you gotta buy the package, dude, you gotta. Yeah, I mean, as someone who hasn't been as locked in on the Cavs as you, as some other guys have, I gotta say, like watching yesterday's game was, first of all, I say this to Mike and G before the show,


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[Assistant] Isaac Okoro on offense, we always know he's been good on defense, but he seems to be playing with a level of confidence on offense that I've never noticed before.


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[Assistant] I, I, uh, we saw it in the playoffs, like, you're kind of scared to shoot. And maybe the same thing will happen in the playoffs this year, I hope not, but he's playing with a high level of confidence on the offensive side.


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[Assistant] You know, just watching the way they're moving the ball right now. Like we haven't seen this in forever. Even the great teams with LeBron didn't move. Obviously those teams were better, but they didn't move the ball like this. They didn't play this style. And it's fun watching the ball move with all these crazy passes. It's never standing still. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] I didn't feel like Donovan was like, cause the Clippers have four superstars, right? Aging, but four superstars. Right, but they're four superstars. They're four guys that are all going to be in the Hall of Fame, aren't they? Yes. No question. You know, so like, I think Donovan Mitchell was like, I'm better than all you guys.


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[Assistant] For me, you're right. I have not given Donovan enough respect. Now...


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[Assistant] But I think, I'm just speaking for me. I'm saying I have underrated him to a degree and this is why. This is what has stood out to me.


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[Assistant] As I finally come around and watch a little more of The Cav, which I'm now gonna get locked in the rest of the year. But I didn't watch enough early in the season, which is a bad job out of me, but I had made this promise that I wouldn't watch if they did anything. It was stupid, whatever, but.


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[Assistant] What we're noticing, and I'm sure all the fans that are the diehards that have watched more than me have got to be noticing that...


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[Assistant] I think the reason, or a big part of the reason that all these other guys are playing well is because Donovan Mitchell believes in them.


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[Assistant] And he's given them the ball. And he's given them a chance. And he's showing confidence. And if the best player on the team shows confidence in his teammates, well, they're gonna, they're gonna be more confident in themselves. How does that change though now that Darius is coming back? Well, he's, I mean, he's not, when's he coming back? Tomorrow. It was actually tweeted


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[Assistant] Jason wrote a great column this morning in the Athletic and he talked about


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[Assistant] That Mowgli's gotta shoot threes. It's really that simple. See, I read that and I disagree with you.


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[Assistant] I know that, but it's the regular season. If you're getting ready for the playoffs, who cares if you win? If you lose a game because he's working on his three-point shot, who cares? Jay, he's 20 years old!


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[Assistant] Alright, he said the Cavs want nothing more than for Mobley to become a viable three point threat. Of course. It is the single biggest factor that could unlock levels this Roth Draft hasn't yet reached. Totally agree. Now let me read you quotes later in the article from JB.


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[Assistant] Quote, if Evan is open behind the three point line, we've talked to him. He's gotta take those shots. He has the ability to make those shots, but it's difficult in the game if you're only gonna shoot one game, only gonna shoot one a game or one every two weeks. He's flat out saying, shoot the ball more, Evan. That's what he's saying.


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[Assistant] No he's not. But now they played it differently. So now they're playing, they weren't playing this style of basketball. Yesterday was his first game with this style of play. So now there's more opportunities. But what do you mean why?


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[Assistant] Mike, would you, do you think it's a good idea for him to shoot three to four threes a game?


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[Assistant] I would just say it's like the same thing we talked about with Deshaun Watson to some degree where we said, well if he can't handle Joe Flacco as a backup, he's never gonna be good anyway. Right, right. If Evan Mobley can't handle the failure of shooting poorly from three, at least initially, well he was never gonna make it anyway.


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[Assistant] Has anybody gone off a cliff faster than Ben Simmons? Like the guy was an all-star.


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[Assistant] But he hasn't really done it, he's barely played. But think about, I know right now, it's hard to have confidence in Evan Mopley shooting threes, and that's why he probably doesn't have a lot of confidence, but in theory, if he could shoot three and a half threes a game, and even make 30-31%, what a difference that could make for this team.


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[Assistant] How many times during this process will I say to you, we need better context?


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[Assistant] I would say there's almost nothing in those characteristics that would help me make a decision.


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[Assistant] Was your 40 time just under 4'6"?


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[Assistant] Yeah, because he's gonna leave in a year after anyway. Well, let me ask you guys this first.


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[Assistant] I actually would disagree because at least the Bengals have, T. Higgins is the Bengals number two receiver, Pittman is the Colts number one. Yes.


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[Assistant] By the way, you know what the best thing about Marquis Brown is? He and I share a birthday.


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[Assistant] 2020 he missed one, and 2019 he missed one, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't like that. I, I mean, you may be right, I don't like it. If they sign a guy, again, let's assume that Higgins and, and Pittman are not on the board. If they sign Ridley or Brown, I'm not expecting them to also sign Mike Evans, that's not realistic. No, there's no way they're gonna get it.


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[Assistant] He was not. By the way, at all. First of all, he's not, he's about to turn 31 in a couple of weeks. Number two, you know how many games he's played the last four years? I'd say he's averaged six. He's been out a lot, man. He's played 20, averaged five games a year over the last four years. And he's going to be 31?


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[Assistant] By the way, Joe was on my podcast of course last week and I really appreciated Joe. It was my most watched podcast.


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[Assistant] Joe, there seems to be this sentiment from a lot of fans and even media members like me who didn't play.


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[Assistant] Offensive coordinators who were the play caller and offensive coordinators who were not, right, in your career. So like, what's the difference? Do you think lesser of an offensive coordinator who's not actually calling the plays and does that guy still have a lot of impact in how the team performs offensively?


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[Assistant] Has there been, has, has there been, I guess it's too early, but do you sense going into this offseason?


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[Assistant] Based on how well you perform that there'll be more interest than there might have been last year.


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[Assistant] I'm curious because I'm in the minority in the media. Like to me, Dan Campbell, this is who Dan Campbell is. He goes for 4th downs. Right. This is who he is.


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[Assistant] I defended it by saying like, if I were a player, I'd want to play for a guy like that who's aggressive.


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[Assistant] You know, obviously, I think for all of us, we feel like you should still be a starter in the league.


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[Assistant] But, if it ends up being a backup role this year, are you comfortable in that situation with the Browns or anybody else?


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[Assistant] But the problem is, he's close enough to the bottom of that 32 that teams would rather go with a young guy.


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[Assistant] How much was the defense talking, Tyvis, about man, Drew Locksocks?


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[Assistant] Well, but he said that the OC that's in name...


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[Assistant] By the way, Mike, I'm giving you an A for that commercial read. You fell short of an A plus because you said sporting games. That didn't sound natural.


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[Assistant] And my point was, by the way, and I don't know how everybody picked this, I was talking about guys that are a little off the beaten path. Like, obviously LeBron would never have to buy a beer or Jose Ramirez, but those guys are boring, they're the superstars. I'm talking about the guys who are not the lead dogs of a team.


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[Assistant] Flackle became that for a few weeks, but in general he hasn't been, right? So I'm talking about guys that


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[Assistant] So here's my guys on my Mount Rushmore of modern guys- Wait, Imani Bates is gonna be on G's list?


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[Assistant] So my guys in, in recent times that are not big names to make my list of Mount


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[Assistant] Yes. Yeah, one of the guys, I guess, is more sung than the others, if you will, but, uh, Matthew Delavadova is on my list. Okay. I mean, the guy, JR Smith, who's also on my list,


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[Assistant] You did what he did. Yes, but he was a big part of, he was I think the most underrated guy in their championship. In my opinion. Richard Jefferson.


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[Assistant] No, I think, okay maybe, but my guy was JR. And JR made himself a legend with no shirt at the parade. Like that was legendary status.


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[Assistant] Those are two of the guys. Deli and JR. The other two.


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[Assistant] Our baseball guys. Roger Davis. Of course. He's gotta be on there. And this one is way, way, way under the radar, but Ryan Merritt.


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[Assistant] was a celebrity in Cleveland for a week. Yeah, it's bull's list. Yeah. Bull went a different route than I went. Yeah. But Ryan Merritt, like the guy pitched one of the biggest games in the modern history of the guardians. He did. He only went four and a third, but this day and age, that's not bad in the playoffs. He allowed like four base runners and didn't give up a run and


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[Assistant] Say that again. Oh my goodness. What's the question? I may not even. We got Lincoln, Lincoln, Washington.


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[Assistant] Let me give you a better example, guys. No, give me an example. Let me, give me this. Uh, Mike, you're, you're the most knowledgeable basketball fan in this, in this room, I would say. Is that fair? That's very fair. I hope so, yes. Or is it Earl? I mean, Earl's a big time basketball fan.


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[Assistant] Otheus Jeffers, Tim Frazier, Jarnel Stokes, Vander Blue, Lorenzo Brown, Chris Boucher, Frank Mason, Paul Reed, Traveling Queen. They were all MVPs of the G League. And Karlik Jones. They were all G League MVPs. Last decade.


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[Assistant] Chris Boucher is an okay player in the NBA. Vanga Blue is a pretty good player in college.


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[Assistant] I'll give you that. Hold on, Mike never answered the question. Are any of those guys any good? Go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] Use that big a sample size. We don't know what they're using. No, he did. In fact, he said when you use those numbers, you're going off the 250 instances in that season. I'm pretty sure he said, I don't know that they do this, but I thought that's what he said. By the way, he also said, as I assume that every team


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[Assistant] Has a script in 15 plays. I love the way you explain that. Yes.


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[Assistant] So it seems like Deshaun Watson may be looking for something that doesn't really exist in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I think I'm finally done. But you know what? I can't quit him. And then he actually quit him. And it came back to bite him in the ass.


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[Assistant] Oh my goodness, when they had to stand up. Let's, let's dive into our topics right away then so we have more time on the back end to talk about some of those decisions. And there's another thing I know we're going to talk about that's going to take, uh, take some of our time, but we got a ton of fan duel tickets this weekend from the playoff games and Saturday night from the Lakers Warriors game that went double overtime. LeBron won. We're going to talk about that in overtime.


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[Assistant] We're gonna showcase them throughout the week. We have more than we can showcase in five days, so we'll get to all those, I promise. But we'll start with this one today. But guys, it is Super Bowl week, and happy Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] That's great. Let's dive into our first topic here. The Browns have made an offensive coordinator hire. Ken Dorsey will be teaming up with Kevin Stefanski, Tommy Reese and the rest of the Browns offensive coaches as their new offensive coordinator. Guys, we'll talk about play calling in a sec, but let's start with the hire itself. What would you grade?


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[Assistant] The higher, the Cleveland Browns higher of Ken Dorsey.


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[Assistant] Bull, I think it's the- What's that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, let me do a read before we hop into the next day just so we can split this up, but that's a great, uh, jumping off point. I know we come to sports to escape from some of the crazy realities of real life, but let's just talk for a minute about preparing for real life. According to the FDA, pharmacies are running out of antibiotics right in the middle of the worst flu season in over a decade and guys,


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[Assistant] Who do you guys think will be calling plays for the Browns in 2024? Kevin Stefanski, our new offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's pretty consistent. First and third quarters are lower than second and fourth. By how much? By double though?


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[Assistant] Depends on, pick a team, I'll give you the team. Go with the Chiefs. Go with the Chiefs. The Chiefs, the Chiefs, the Chiefs, the Chiefs, Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas City. Uh, Chiefs, 78 in the first quarter, 165 in the second quarter.


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[Assistant] And they only had 58 points in the fourth quarter of this season. Wow, that is stunning. That's worse than the Browns. That's horrible. Pick a different team. I'll do one more. Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Uh, Baltimore, 106 in the first quarter, 155 in the second. Okay, up. 99 in the third, 117 in the fourth.


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[Assistant] Mike. The Browns points in the first 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13th, 14th, 15th, touch 15th. So it's middle of the pack.


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[Assistant] It is one full season as the offensive coordinator for the Bills. So not this year, this is last season. They ran the ball on 40.56% of the plays. They were six to four pass to run. Obviously Nick Chubb's coming back. Jay and Bull, I mean Jay and, uh, G, you guys have clamored for more carries from Nick Chubb. I know he's coming off injury, but


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[Assistant] Do you think the Browns will still have a relatively balanced pass attack now with the influence of Dorsey? Or are we transitioning more?


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[Assistant] To an air raid, pass happy offense than we had seen previously under this.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen has had a hundred or more carries in one, two, three, five straight seasons.


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[Assistant] So in fact, I can tell you the numbers for 2022 because it happened right in front of me. In 2022, Josh Allen ran the ball 124 times. I'm not sure if those are design carries, scrambles, but in total 124. In terms of rushing attempts in 2024, the 2022 2022, sorry, Buffalo averaged. And they're at the bottom of the list here. They are. What was their total? Cause you gave us Allen's total. Yeah, I got to do the math.


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[Assistant] Ken Dorsey was not the only coach hired by the Browns over the weekend. They also hired a new defensive line coach.


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[Assistant] But they still had Ben Bloom on the staff. So I guess they have two defensive line coaches now. I'm not exactly sure how that's gonna work. What'd you guys make of the hire of?


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna pronounce your name wrong. That's it. Jocks says air. What'd you make of the higher bolt?


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[Assistant] Jonathan Green, uh, Grenard. I have the best season of his career, double disactual.


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[Assistant] I refuse to, and you know way better than me, so I'm not, but there's no way this dude just sets up cones. Like there's no way all positions are just setting up cones.


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[Assistant] Okay, so put a bow on this after this, but any impact, because it seems like G and Jay don't think a line coach has any impact, but do you think it has any impact you were there watching the defensive line in Greenbrier? Anything that this new guy who played in the league for nine years can maybe bring and help.


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[Assistant] But they have Tommy Reese now, who obviously played in, uh, played, uh, played.


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[Assistant] We had a two part Watson discussion we're going to do today. We're going to save the G tweet for tomorrow because I want to talk about the championship games and that's that we can do that whenever.


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[Assistant] A little more timely, on Sean Watson's Podcast Friday, he mentioned you by name. We have that clip. Which was cool.


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[Assistant] It was 48 yards and, uh, Badgley's career numbers from 48 plus, he's got a 50-50 shot.


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[Assistant] Badgley is 9 of 20, 45% in his career from 48 yards, worst among high volume kickers in NFL history.


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley makes his much anticipated return to the Cleveland Cavaliers lineup tonight. They're taking on the Los Angeles Clippers at 7 o'clock. I'll be there. Jason, you'll be there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we got some super chats. Uh, MBM Mont just said, let's go. Charles T as a couple, his first one, he graded the Dorsey High or B plus. Bill's offense was top five in almost every stat before he was fired. Interceptions and fumbles are on Josh.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and Cook defense also sucked. Cam and Josh praise him. One is an MVP. Other one is prized to become a top five quarterback.


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[Assistant] Charles also says, I like the higher because it looks like Stefanski keeps play calling, but with a better quarterback and offense mind and game planning until he's ready to call plays. And he wants us to stop comparing Joe Flacco being out of football for a few months to Watson being out for almost two years when it comes to Rust. It was also said it was a


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[Assistant] Charles T. also said, uh, run 60 slash 40. I think that was in, in, uh, relationship to run 60%. Would you rather get the ball to digs or hand off to cook single Terry?


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[Assistant] Uh, but he said, yeah, run 60, 40. Kenny Moss said the first quarter is your prep all week for the game. And the third quarter is your adjustments made at halftime. Those are your coaching quarters. And lastly, what'd you say, bull?


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[Assistant] Lastly, Behass says you guys are missing the mark on position coaches. Kyle Shanahan has an impressive coaching tree. I need to see Stefanski elevate his tree. Great coaches develop good coaches.


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[Assistant] I had shorts in Barry. I didn't have a player in there. I can't believe, voted for postseason awards, didn't have a player in there.


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[Assistant] And they did fix a lot of it. It's, it's, and they had so many injuries that I thought Kevin deserved the credit for keeping it together. Schwartz deserved the credit for fixing the defense, at least from where it was. And Andrew Berry for bringing in the right guys and fixing the roster. I would have had it before. To sustain. Flacco is a great story, but for me the fact that


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[Assistant] I'm batting a thousand. That's exactly the way I had my ballot. I had Delvin Tomlinson third.


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[Assistant] Because you, you, they, where they drafted him, there's some level of expectation. He didn't have a very good year last year, but he was decent as a rookie, so there's still some level of expectation. They traded for Hopkins thinking, you know what?


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[Assistant] I had him third, I kind of, right where both of you guys are saying, the injury, but at the same time, the expectation level. I had Elijah one, I had Jerome Ford too.


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[Assistant] I, I just, I saw a lot of games where they look, I've mentioned this before, they made it look like random tackles, but if he doesn't get that guy down, it's going to the house. He had a lot of big open field plays that to me saved a lot of bigger chunk play touchdowns.


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[Assistant] I went with the worst pregame outfit and when I saw


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[Assistant] DTR walking in against the Steelers. Oh my lord, they're gonna lose by three touchdowns. You can't have your quarterback looking like that before the game.


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[Assistant] A friend of mine texted me. This was a funny line. He said that was the best night for Cleveland football since the movie Draft Day.


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[Assistant] By the way guys, really quick, and they will all come up later when we talk about these subjects, but I have a record six people


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[Assistant] That are out of pocket right now in the last 24 hours. You ready? WKYC's Austin Love.


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[Assistant] Which is outrageous, but it's also what normally happens, unfortunately.


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[Assistant] But we haven't gone away since pre-COVID, pre-cancer for my wife. And it's been a while. And this is the, this is the longest vacation I've ever taken besides my honeymoon. So I'm going for nine days. I'm so excited. And you've already checked the weather. I love that.


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[Assistant] I'm like, I know it's 15 days ahead and obviously the forecast can change big time, but I cannot wait. We're going to Florida. We're just, we, we, we, us and another family.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm only surprised because I didn't think Flacco would win. I have too. I mean, I, I, the assistant coach of the year, I didn't have any feel for that. So, but I, you know, you thought he had a good chance. I assumed Stefanski and Miles Garrett were going to win at this point.


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[Assistant] But I was stunned that Joe Flacco won because I thought people, as a lot of people did, would vote for Demar Hamlin. We've talked about this. I think voting for Demar Hamlin is ridiculous. And it's no offense to him. So did six or seven other voters. Right. I mean it's, listen, we understand, give him an award for something else, but he didn't come back and he didn't play.


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[Assistant] He came back from death. I get it. That's pretty amazing. That's his biggest comeback you could date. Yes. But he didn't play. Yeaah. But, but even without Demar Hamlin, I would have assumed that both Baker and Stafford would have finished ahead of Flacco, but it didn't happen.


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[Assistant] If you look at, what was interesting, and here comes one of the, my aforementioned out-of-pocket people.


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[Assistant] If you look at the response to the defensive player of the year from both the guys who finished second and third, we have both of those tweets, right? Right, Mike?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, if Michael Parsons is saying Miles Garret should win, I'm gonna go with him on that. As he seems to pay.


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[Assistant] That's the final hill to climb for Miles Garrett is to be as great at the end of the year as he is for the rest of the year. That's it.


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[Assistant] But speaking of Coach of the Year, can you first, before you put up that tweet I sent you Mike, can you first put up the voting totals for the Coach of the Year?


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[Assistant] Wow. And I think we all agreed at the end of the year that it really was a toss up between the two guys. I was surprised Campbell was such a distant third. Only because the Lions had high


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[Assistant] The Texans won games with one of the greatest passing seasons ever by a rookie. The Browns had to beat the Niners and others with P.J. Walker, D.T.R. and the Corpse and Joe Flacco. But yes, the fans keep a check. Have we gotten to the point where we're now going to complain about a close win?


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[Assistant] But he was a rookie and the coaching staff, and I know the head coach is a defensive guy, but the coaching staff has to be given credit for not only the quarterback playing great, the whole team played great. A team that nobody thought


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[Assistant] He's out for the year. Listen, we know all the reasons Stefanski won. I'm not, I've been saying all year I thought Stefanski should win. It's just to say that D'Amico Ryan's didn't have an also a very compelling game is definitely unfair.


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[Assistant] So he did get some MVP. Where did he finish an offensive rookie of the year? He got injured like week 12, was it? He probably would have finished third if he hadn't gotten hurt.


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[Assistant] I mean, yes, it looks to us. Now we'll see if Kevin Stefanski gets an extension here coming up, but right now it feels like, I think you're right. It feels like the league respects Kevin Stefanski more than his owner does.


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[Assistant] Chris, let's hop over to the NBA. First month or so of the season.


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[Assistant] We were having routine discussions about when JB Bickerstaff was going to get fired. We were hearing rumors that Donovan Mitchell didn't like him. The team wasn't playing well.


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[Assistant] Then their, two of their best players get hurt. Since then they've, now they're back, obviously. They've been the best team in basketball since then. They've won 16 of 17. And now we're having a conversation on today's show, whether or not JB is the coach of the year. Is this unbelievable? Could you see this coming at all?


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[Assistant] Chris, not just yesterday, the day of the deadline, but you know, if you want to include like the last week or two, whatever, who do you think helped themselves the most in acquisitions over the last couple of weeks?


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[Assistant] Our, our producer, Mike. Oh wow. He, he played Division 3 hoops. So. We're at.


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[Assistant] I mean, listen, I'm not a huge NBA authority, but it seems to me that the Knicks are the only team that got, you know, I would say significantly better. I thought the Celtics' moves were nothing really. Yea, all the other teams' moves didn't seem, and who cares what Philly did, they've lost them beads.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but Christmas is saying, well, who, like, it's not a short thing. Who knows what he's going to be like at that point. And, uh, you know, we'll see. But, but, uh, I don't know. I'm not changing my opinion on the Cavs. I think they're right now. I mean, Boston's obviously the class in the East right now. They're way ahead of everybody else.


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[Assistant] I love Donovan Mitchell, I love how he's playing. And to be fair, obviously Donovan Mitchell doesn't have LeBron playing next to him, like Kyrie did. But until Donovan Mitchell at least wins one playoff series, I can't put him ahead of Kyrie.


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[Assistant] Look at them on the road this year versus last year. That's a mess. They were the worst of the contending teams last year. They were the worst road team. This year they have the best winning percentage on the road of any team in the league. Stunning.


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[Assistant] And that was, and they played better later in the year to get to 20 and 21.


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[Assistant] And last year, Isaac Okoro was not a defensive liability, but he was an offensive liability. They didn't have to defend him. If he's confident and he's taking that shot, well now you can play him in the playoffs. Last year they really couldn't.


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[Assistant] They're way deeper, they have 11 legitimate players when Tristan Thompson's here, but obviously not going to use 11, but I would still, and Jason was talking about this yesterday, in the buyout market, even if it's just a guy just to break glass in case of emergency. Right, yeaah. Get another center and another point guard for the deep bench, veteran guys, just in case people go down.


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[Assistant] Bull, ask you a question because I thought it was fascinating. Well, no, I mean, I, listen, I love Josh Gribs. I've always had, whenever I, we used to have him on the show a lot. Great guy. Love him. He was a really, really good special teams player. Three time pro bowler, made the two thousands all decade team.


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[Assistant] No, he ain't Devin Hester. I'm sorry. And here's the problem. Josh, and that's why it's our latest out of pocket. Earl is out of pocket because he says Josh Cribb should be in the Hall of Fame next year. Josh Cribbs, I love him. I'm sorry. He's never gone to the Hall of Fame. He remember when you're, if you're a special teamer or you know, kicker punter return guy, it's not like other positions and other positions.


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[Assistant] You could be a, if you're a tier one guy, you're in the hall of fame, but if you're a tier two guy, you still might get in the hall of fame too. Sure. At quarterback, running back, other things. You gotta be the best. When you are a returner, a punter, a kicker, you can't just be the best for a couple of years. You have to be one of the one or maybe two, maybe, maybe three at most of the history of the game.


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[Assistant] I think he still does. No, I think he still does. He did, he was a virtual non-factor obviously in the rest of the game.


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[Assistant] Okay, so yea, boy, you're probably right there. 11 total. 11 to 19, in terms of return touchdowns, that's a massive difference.


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[Assistant] How many first-team All-Pros did, uh, Devin Hester have, Mike? You know?


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[Assistant] I mean, he's just, yeaah, I wouldn't put any other return guy in the Hall of Fame. Personally, Josh Cribbs was excellent.


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[Assistant] It was also, remember, he gets lost now, but, uh, what's his name? Who was on the Falcons was a great returner too. Hall. Dante Hall. Dante Hall.


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[Assistant] How many return touchdowns does he have, Mike? Total.


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[Assistant] The kickers of Morton Anderson, Jan Stenerud, George Bland, and Lou Groza.


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[Assistant] Where he had seven returns for a touchdown in those two years. The rest of his career really had four. And so it's like, well he had two


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[Assistant] In fairness to the guys now, not those guys specifically, it's harder. The rules of hell are hurting return guys. By the way, to be fair, Devin Hester only had four years where he had three or more touchdowns in a year. Cribbs had two.


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[Assistant] Return touchdowns. Cribs had two years, three or more. Hester had four. How about this for a rule change?


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[Assistant] The debate yesterday was Tyvis wanted to go with McCaffrey any time touchdown, but it was minus 265.


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[Assistant] So it was so overwhelmingly the favorite there. I think they've got that odds wrong. Right, and I think Kelsey has just as good a chances. I mean, if I had to say who's more likely to score a touchdown, I'd go McCaffrey over Kelsey, but not by that big a gap. No, that's a huge gap.


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[Assistant] But that's even money. I actually like the under though.


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[Assistant] You do? I do, I think it's gonna be a lower scoring game.


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[Assistant] Cause it's only okay with that. The numbers are good. It's plus 340. I do think McCaffrey has a good chance to score both and that's plus 750, but obviously you don't feel confident about it. I think that's a no risk it, no biscuit. Yeah, right. Like if you


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[Assistant] That's safe. I like that one, but the safer bet is, the safer bet with still good odds is the sack. Because you could get a half a sack. So do we have it down to those two?


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[Assistant] I like the sack. I like those two also. Yeah, let's go. I mean, I think we should go with the sack. So they both have to have over a half, right?


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[Assistant] But both offensive lines are good, but they're not lights out. No. And the chiefs are, uh, missing one of their starting guards is not playing.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Alright, so where are we going? We going over or under? We're going to have to do majority rules. I'll go with under. Are you going with under?


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[Assistant] What'd you say about that? Lay a dollar or two on the McCaffrey thing, especially at plus 800 or whatever it was. That's crazy. It's good.


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[Assistant] Cause I could see the Niners scoring three touchdowns and two of them in McCaffrey. So you have the Niners winning, man. No, I don't believe it or not. Well, how's that going to stay?


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[Assistant] I think my final score was 24-21, which would be under, but I can't remember exactly what my final that I gave to Mike was, but I know I had the under.


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[Assistant] I got no problem with pizza, but let me get to this. We all love Austin Love. He's a young up and comer. He's not as young as I think he is. I don't know.


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[Assistant] It's not a Cleveland pie. Nobody in Cleveland's eating pizza with mustard on it. That's disgusting. Now what did he say though?


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[Assistant] I think it was Dave. Yeah. It was Chud. Yeah. He says good. Now Dave, you're wrong. I got to school both of them up right here. Have you had it? I don't like mustard period. I don't either.


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[Assistant] We hate each other, but I think my choice is better than your choice.


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[Assistant] Right there, hosting kids here. Before we get to this read, I know Mike's gotta do a read, before we go deeper down the subject, I gotta do a quick shout out. And you guys are gonna remember the first part of this. Remember last year, this story, Anthony, you got it?


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[Assistant] But you guys remember there was the guys cheated. I didn't remember that that had been a local tournament. Yeah, it was a, it was Lake Erie tournament. So I was recently getting my hair cut and my beard cleaned up a little bit.


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[Assistant] And Jen is the name of the woman that cuts my hair. She's been cutting my hair almost since I moved to Cleveland. I found her probably a year after I moved here. She's awesome. She had been working at another place and she opened her own place so I went with her. Anyway, her boyfriend...


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[Assistant] Yeah, their names are Dave Ward, that's her boyfriend, and Ryan Smith are the two guys. Congrats to them! Yea, Dave is on the left, Ryan on the right. They won two fishing boats.


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[Assistant] Well, it's all about the accomplishment. They, it's, it's, remember those, it's about the heaviest walleye, the person that catches the heaviest walleye, and those guys last year put weights in them, and the rest of the fishermen were ready to kill those guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, apparently, I don't know if we knew this at the time. This is what Jen told me, so I don't know if we knew this beforehand. She said that...


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[Assistant] The reason there was such a high level of anger towards these guys is they had won some other tournaments before that. A lot of other tournaments. Okay, I didn't, I didn't know that or I didn't remember that.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'll ask her, I'll ask her if, to ask him if he wants to, if he would like to do that and we can do that, that'd be fine. I think that would be the right thing.


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[Assistant] They have to be proactive about the possibility. I know, you know, the reason you say it is because Brian Callahan who's the Bengals OC has been interviewed for or will be by the end of this week for four different head coaching jobs.


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[Assistant] It is possible that they promote Bill Callahan or promote their wide receiver coach Chad O'Shea. I mentioned in our chat group yesterday that when I was looking for my OC candidates,


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[Assistant] I had forgotten that Chad O'Shea, in addition to being the wide receiver coach, is also the passing game coordinator, which also made me feel a little better about what we were talking about yesterday is, oh, does this mean they're going away from what they did? Well, their passing game coordinator is not leaving.


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[Assistant] Uh, my number one choice is Clint Kubiak. Okay. Clint Kubiak, of course, the son of Gary Kubiak.


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[Assistant] So he's part of that family tree, which Kevin Stefanski is. Clint Kubiak.


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[Assistant] Worked under Kevin Stefanski in 2013, 2014 and again in 2019. Kubiak had left.


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[Assistant] And then he came back, he went to Denver. In 2019, that was the year Kevin Stefanski, of course, was the, was one year as OC in Minnesota. And Clint Kubiak was his quarterback. So obviously there's a lot of family connections between the two.


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[Assistant] What's he doing right now? He is currently the passing game coordinator for the 49ers.


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[Assistant] You know, again, their passing game looks pretty good. It does.


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[Assistant] And it's a promotion for him even though he's not calling plays. Right. So that's the way I looked at it. That was, that's why he was my first choice. My second choice, I went kind of the other end of the spectrum. A guy that also worked with Stefanski, but he was above Stefanski as opposed to Clint Kubiak who was below Stefanski. This guy's a veteran coach and that's Darrell Bevel.


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[Assistant] Darrell Bevel's been the offensive coordinator, he was the offensive coordinator for Seattle from 2011 to 2017. In fact, I texted, uh, Tyvis about it, and Tyvis said that he loved Darrell Bevel, that he was great, that


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[Assistant] I won't tell you the reason, I won't say what Tyva said, why he got ran out of Seattle eventually, but he said it wasn't his fault.


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[Assistant] And then he went and was the O.C. for the Lions. The last couple, but the last couple of years he hasn't been an offensive coordinator. But what was he doing? The last two years, he's been the quarterback coach for Tua. Now they've faltered in the playoffs, but.


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[Assistant] Tua, before Darryl Bevel and Mike McCarthy, uh, not Mike McCarthy, Mike McDaniel, looked terrible. Tua, with him, has looked great. And Darryl Bevel hasn't been an offensive coordinator for three years.


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[Assistant] Uh, and they were very good at that. Plus, he's been an interim head coach when coaches have been fired twice. So he has high level coaching experience. Didn't, didn't do overly well in those. No, but.


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[Assistant] No, no. He didn't do well at all. I'm just saying he has that experience of being the head man, which I think is good. And he worked with Stefanski. Like I said, he worked above Stefanski. He was the offensive coordinator in Minnesota from 06 to 2010. Stefanski was a fledgling assistant 06 to 08.


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[Assistant] But Stefanski was the assistant quarterback coach in Minnesota in 9 and 10.


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[Assistant] Bevel's last two years as OC in Minnesota. Right. So obviously Bevel was his boss. Right. So you got Kubiak who was worked under Stefanski, Bevel who worked above Stefanski. Both have the connections. Both have been with successful teams recently, but for both guys, it would be a promotion.


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[Assistant] I guess it's possible they want to work out, make sure they're on top of these assistant coach high rings. Maybe. And then they can handle that after because there's no, nothing as time-sensitive.


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[Assistant] I guess if it doesn't happen by, you know, the Super Bowl or around that point, then I'll be really surprised.


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[Assistant] My only, the only thing I would say about the enemy, the reason I didn't even consider him is because he was calling plays in Washington. He was. And so if I'm him, I don't want to go somewhere again where I'm not calling plays.


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[Assistant] It'll be interesting to see what ends up. I just, I just, if there was a guy that was calling plays, and again, you're right, like, I don't know that he's lost his job in Washington yet.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying he doesn't want to hire the enemy, but I'm just saying in general, why that does, that's correct. It makes no, it's not like he was. We shouldn't be reacting to this as if.


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[Assistant] The season ended in a disappointing way. Every team that loses in the first round of the playoffs is disappointing. This Browns team, as they were constituted with the injuries, had no business winning 11 games.


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[Assistant] Listen, if Stefanski had to do with this decision, and I was reading, so I can't remember now who, who read it, but I was reading, or wrote it, but I, I was reading this morning, maybe Mary Kay, that was saying, hey listen, that it seems to be a mutual parting of the ways.


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[Assistant] Between Stefanski and, and, uh, Alex Van Pelt. I think the other two coaches are separate. If that's the case, then okay. So it's not this, well we have to make a huge move because it's a disaster. I just don't know if that's the case. I think we're, we're reading into that maybe that's it. But you're always trying to get better.


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[Assistant] Uh, now, again, if this is a move that the front office forced on him, well that's a different story.