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[Assistant] To me, that tells me that even before they sat down to talk.


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[Assistant] When Kevin was thinking, what could I do with this guy? He must have had the thought, boy, if I could get him to get under center and work on his play fake.


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[Assistant] We could do all kinds of great thing. Cause Flacco, it works so well with Flacco. He's as good at the play fake. And I never thought this first time around. He is as good at the play fake as Boomer Esiason was.


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[Assistant] And I always wondered why all quarterbacks didn't work on that more, because it is so effective. He had one against the Jets where he just completely relaxed his body. He stood up, I mean the ball was out of his hand, but it wasn't.


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[Assistant] I think that in this, in this case, it's not like you have a Brady and Belichick ego clash. Right, right. I think these guys have no ego, and I think there, if there's two guys that I think you can bring together and mesh.


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[Assistant] Maybe Deshaun Watson had one coming here, but he's lost a lot of his ego shine.


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[Assistant] Because he's found out that, uh, first of all, from going from Clemson to Houston, that it's not easy, but he has not had the success in Cleveland that he's had in Houston. So I think his ego has come down a bit. I think Stefanski and Watson can come together on this and can make the beautiful play music that they're making right now.


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[Assistant] The top line there is absolutely mind-numbing. He's played in five games.


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[Assistant] We've got quarterbacks that have played in 16 games. Not many. Oh, you mean the second.


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[Assistant] Baker is this... We're not going down the street. We're not going down the road. No, no, no, we don't gotta go down that road, but I do want to hear Jason's pick. It was a hot topic yesterday. The odds on favorite are DeMar Hamlin, overwhelming number one. Then Flacco, and then Baker. And Flacco and Baker are pretty close. And then the fourth pick, who was way down, was Matthew Stafford. I would take Baker.


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[Assistant] Bull, Bull, his agent called the Jets after Aaron Rodgers got hurt and they said no we're good. Agreed the Jets are clueless but it's still


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[Assistant] And it equates a lot, probably the equivalent to a QBR. It adds a lot of different measurables in.


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[Assistant] And he said when you look at that stat, and it's a compilation of all the things that you want the edge rusher to do, it's Miles Garrett and then everybody else, and there's a huge gap between them. And I believe that. I, I do. Uhm, and I think he is going to be the defensive player.


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[Assistant] By the way, we're giving out flowers and I don't want to go too far off the track, but I thought David Nijoku had a soundbite yesterday that was the biggest single example of the maturation of any player that I've covered closely and looked at closely. He's, the soundbite, I'll paraphrase it, he said,


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[Assistant] Every year of my career, I've gone into it and through the season, all I thought about was my stats. I wanted so many catches and so many touchdowns and so many yards. And this year I divorced myself from that idea. I said, I don't care about stats, stats. I want to be the best I could be to help my team. And I'm going to the Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] And I thought that that was a full circle maturation because remember, there was a time not long ago, he was a healthy scratch.


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[Assistant] And I really looked at that soundbite in that moment and I said, he has arrived physically and mentally.


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[Assistant] Well if the John Dorsey regime had lasted any longer, he wouldn't be here. He'd be gone. That's probably true.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's funny that you said that his relationship with Kevin has come full circle. Did you guys see the clip where he was miked up for the game when Hopkins got hurt and he was politicking to Kevin to kick? And what blew me away more than anything was he'd gone up to Stefanski four or five different times and said, come on, I can do this.


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[Assistant] I agree with you and in 99% of the cases, that's right. Just stay the course. Give them time to develop. It took Njoku a long time, but it's been worth the wait, for sure.


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[Assistant] And Earl gets all the flowers in the world if they win Sunday. True. Cause he sat in G's chair one day when he was out and said with all the confidence of G. Bush and all the Kool-Aid of G. Bush that they were gonna go 5-0. And we left them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was. We talked about, you know, reasons to sign him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I, I thought that A, the Jets castaways have been pretty good for the Browns this year. B, the Jets linemen, uh, offensive line is trash.


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[Assistant] He wasn't the lead runner there. Let's, let's bring him in for one game audition, save the hits on our running backs and keep him from going to the Chiefs or the Ravens where we might have to stop him in the playoffs and now the Ravens.


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[Assistant] I, I, no, I think that, so I think that that is, I would go with that, yes. I think Miles is definitely better than TJ. I do think though, that Trey does deserve to be in that conversation. I think that he's just as disruptive, causes a ton of problems. I mean, he has 17 sacks on the season.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Jets game, if I'm not mistaken, I can't remember what team it was. Uh, but he threw a pick.


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[Assistant] No, because it's a, it's a mismatch of players in this game. I didn't know who was going to play who was not, so I took a couple guys who could. It's a mix.


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[Assistant] He came in and did a headline set. He'd be funny. I saw one poke through the day and we talked about setting up a second comedy show even though that wasn't the agreed upon punishment just because we had so much fun last week. I'll text poke again today to see if we can get that in motion.


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[Assistant] Defensive touchdown combo for the win.


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[Assistant] I do, yea, Dalvin Cook has not been the same player in the last couple of seasons when we pull up his pro football reference page, but last season in 2022,


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[Assistant] His traditional numbers were pretty solid. He did run for 264 carries, 11, uh, 1173 yards and 8 touchdowns. His yards per carry were right around league average.


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[Assistant] Uh, the year before, he was slightly more yards, slightly fewer touchdowns. In 2020 was when he went bonkers. 1600 yards in 14 games with 16 touchdowns. He hasn't been that player.


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[Assistant] And then he's been a pro bowler the last two seasons, and he's on the practice squad this year. I tried looking into why, I couldn't find it, but he was a pro bowler last year in Buffalo, he was a pro bowler the year before Tennessee. Didn't he play for the Niners?


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[Assistant] Okay, okay. I'm giving his name, but that's probably what he thinks. So he plays guard? He plays guard in 2021. Alex Boone. Right, right, right. As a member of the Tennessee Titans, he was a Pro Bowler. Last season with Buffalo, started all 16 games with a Pro Bowler. That's bizarre.


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[Assistant] So my only theory, and gee, please tell me if this makes any sense or no sense. He's 34 years old, he's about to turn 35. Offensive linemen don't have the longest shelf lives. I assume, and this is just me, piecing the puzzles together, putting the pieces of the puzzle together.


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[Assistant] He was about to retire. The Jets were like, please, we need some help. Come, I'm not sure how long he was on the practice squad. All I know is he was on the Jets practice squad. Okay. So maybe like, it's the only thing I could think of. Gee, can you think of a reason why a guy who made back to back Pro Bowls was all of a sudden out of football with no league, he had no legal issues, completely squeaky clean in that regard?


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[Assistant] Well that's interesting because Joe Flacco's at the podium right now speaking to the media. And Jeff Driscoll is scheduled to speak to the media tomorrow. Kevin Stefanski will speak later today, so we might get some clarity, but for the sake of discussion here guys, let's say Joe Flacco does not play.


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[Assistant] And the Browns have to choose between starting PJ Walker or Jeff Driscoll as QB1 against the Bengals.


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[Assistant] I couldn't find, I looked everywhere. I looked as the deepest depths of the internet trenches as I could find. I can't find any instance where they have won five.


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[Assistant] So I sent the rundown and I actually said, quote,


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[Assistant] Actually, Anthony, you wanna read it from the rundowns just so people know I'm not finagling words here? Read the second part of the Jeff Driscoll question.


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[Assistant] Talk a little browns, talk a little behind the scenes. Anthony's gonna change the graphics so it doesn't always say Wednesday at 7pm because it's not always at Wednesday at 7pm because tonight it's at 5.30.


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[Assistant] So tonight, 5.30, behind the glass, we will get to it. We also asked the chat, who would they start, Driscoll or Walker? 80% went with Jeff Driscoll. Alright, next topic, guys. And I'm glad you guys all had a different answer. We have four different answers for this, and this was not intentional. You guys all come with different answers, which is phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Has changed your opinion of them the most this season. Could be in a good way, could be in a bad way, but who from the start of the season to now has had the biggest transformation and change of opinion. Bull, you want to start? No, I don't want to start. Why don't we let Tyvis start because he was the first one to answer the question. Tyvis, you're up.


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[Assistant] He's relatively high, but in terms of the tackles for loss and one-stops, he's been as good defensively against someone as almost any linebacker.


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[Assistant] I got the number. So receptions and joku has 81 catches this season. Kelsey has 93 yards. Kelsey has 984 and joku has 882 touchdowns. David has six. Kelsey has five.


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[Assistant] Uh, we asked the chat real quick to vote. I put the four options you guys came up with to see how they went.


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[Assistant] First off, kudos to you guys for coming up with great answers. Very 10%.


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[Assistant] And with that, let's play a little Chewer False, the first of 2024. All today's questions are related to players on the Browns and the Bengals previewing this week's matchup. Steve, are you ready? Oh, Browns and the Bengals. It's a little mix up here. Chewer False.


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[Assistant] That's okay, it's his record, not ours. Next up, are you guys ready? Question number two. The Browns and Bengals have played exactly 100 times in their franchise's history.


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[Assistant] Does that include post-season? That includes post-season. Say a hundred times.


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[Assistant] According to the football database, the Bengals have a 52-48 edge in the 100 matchups.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco and Jake Browning rank 1 and 2 respectively in the NFL for most passing yards in the month of December. So in the month of December, Joe Flacco and Jake Browning rank 1 and 2 respectively.


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[Assistant] False, false, false, true J. This is either the lead or for not and J is in the lead.


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[Assistant] Jeff Driscoll's first professional touchdown pass was caught by Tyler Boyd. Sure, false.


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[Assistant] This one's for you. Zach Taylor and Kevin Stefanski both made the same amount of all conference teams in their collegiate playing careers. True or false?


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski made one all Ivy League team. Zach Taylor made one all Big 12 off. He won the 2006 Offensive Player of the Year in the Big 12. Oh my God. Under Bill Callahan, they both made one in their career, which makes Bull and I are


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[Assistant] Uh, Steve Becker, I did not have a tiebreaker, so find me a tiebreaker while I read this last question. Come back and end it at the end. The last question. Are you guys ready? True or false? Jake Browning's first NFL offensive coordinator. Kevin Stefanski?


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[Assistant] 2019 was his first professional season?


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[Assistant] Uh, we don't talk a ton of cabs during the season, but something's happened in the last few days and we have a little bit of downtime here that I need to ask you guys a question. G. Bush, we'll start with you, but.


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[Assistant] When you look on social media, the Cavs have lost two games in a row since Donovan Mitchell has returned to the lineup. They were three and one without him with an illness. And you could find some people on Twitter, on Instagram, whatever you peruse on the internet, claiming the Cavs play better without number 45 in the lineup. What say you?


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[Assistant] Wait, that's not fair on strews. Everything else I grew, but the strews part's not fair.


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[Assistant] Steph Curry's top 15 all time and Isaiah's top 20 all time. Yeah, I mean those are two of the greatest


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[Assistant] And we can rattle off a bunch of them here. What's that? The 2007 Sons. It was the first Antoni. Yes, absolutely. It's a stupid thing, but they, someone legitimately researched this and it's a wholesale. I'll see if I can find it. I'll put it in the chat, but the Sons, they tracked this.


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[Assistant] In the moment, I'm always for going to get a superstar. You need a superstar to win. Of course. In hindsight, looking back at the 2020 or the 20,000 foot version.


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[Assistant] Uh, Lori marketing in a first round pick was the price for Donald Mitchell. Everything else was excess. So yeah, they paid too much. I agree with that. And it's none of the growth. Couple super chats. I'm going to end with the super chat from Skilly, which we missed the other day, but I want to talk about for a few seconds. But young majestic said, been a Browns fan for 35 years. I love what's going on, but getting kind of frustrated. That's become all about Joe Flacco and less about the Browns.


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[Assistant] Ryan Conter says, Dalvin Cook makes no sense. Nobody adds a third running back that might have no special teams value.


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[Assistant] Mike Adams, uh, Matt Adams, Mike Ford, Pierre Strong, are key guys on kick and punt coverage. Uh, Newton Freer says, Grant Delpit, another guy who changed my opinion, uh, good, uh, good one. And last, Ry Martin Yates says, it's barely 35 games into the season. You guys are already writing the Cavs obituary. Other than a few teams, most of the NBA is around 500. Uh, I'm not writing their obituary. I'm not writing their obituary.


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[Assistant] Uh, but real quick, Skilly sent us a super chat on Friday. Skilly, I apologize for missing it, but it was a great question I want to touch on for the last few minutes here before we wrap up.


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[Assistant] If the Browns win the Super Bowl, will they make a Browns movie on this season? Essentially, remember the Titans 2.0, and if so, who plays some of the key characters? Tivus, Bull, Jay- I don't know what has to do with-


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[Assistant] Jim Schwartz, yea, who's playing Jim Schwartz? I don't know. Who plays Jimmy Haslem? Christopher Walken?


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[Assistant] Uhm, where Ocho Cinco, Santana Moss, all these, uh, Andre Johnson, they will all like come together and just work out together.


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[Assistant] And I would try to emulate that and just like, hey, you know, I was fortunate to be able to get drafted and, um,


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[Assistant] And to see like, hey, it ain't far-fetched, she's gotta put the work in. Like, the magic that...


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[Assistant] You are, uh, wanting is in the work that you're not putting in. Let's go put, let's go put the work in and see what can come from it.


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[Assistant] My, so if you know anything about Mount Union, they're known for their coaching.


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[Assistant] Like Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Uhm, the head coach of Iowa State was a former Mount Union guy who actually coached me, my true freshman year at Mount Union.


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[Assistant] Head coach at University of Toledo, Jason Kandel. He's a Mount Union guy. I mean, it's, if you just look, there's tons of Division 1 coaches that came from Mount Union right now all across the NCAA. So when, uh,


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[Assistant] And I'm like, I don't want to sit out a year. Like, I'm already kind of on the hot streak. Uhm, I got things rolling here. Let's just see where we can go from here. I didn't want to sit out a year. Uhm, and I don't think I ever told Jason that


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[Assistant] Personally, I think he kinda assumed when he called me that I might have been interested, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I was definitely thinking about Lee when it comes to Toledo.


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[Assistant] And I'll be honest with you, I don't think the transfer portal is for Division 3.


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[Assistant] I think that's what the portal is good for, guys that get overlooked, maybe develop later, maybe, uhm...


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[Assistant] And when you get to those higher levels of how states, the Alabamas to get recruited there and go there, there's a small margin of.


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[Assistant] Doesn't mean I, doesn't mean I, I don't think I could have played Division 1 and come out of high school. I truly believe that. Uhm, especially as an athlete, your mindset is different, right? It's just looking at,


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[Assistant] The type of guys they recruit at those type of schools, those guys, they're, they're different. They're different early.


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[Assistant] You know what, uh, let me talk about CJ for a second. Cause you know, like it was like a, uh, a stigma on the high estate quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] They can't produce, they can't do these things. Well, he put all that to bed. Uhm, he is, when you look at him, I've never seen a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] Those, those are things that six, seven year vets just start doing in those years. But he's doing it in year one as a rookie.


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[Assistant] And I don't think people understand how special that is. How special it is that he can go through his first, first read, second read. It's not there. Let me find my check down. I feel this rush coming, right? Uhm.


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[Assistant] When he was healthy, it was, it was undescribably good.


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[Assistant] And you look at where the Texans were last year, cuz now he was an MVP talks early in the year, and everybody's like, no, he's not an MVP. He should be an MVP talks. Because you look at the Texans last year, when they won three games.


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[Assistant] Right, of course you bring in Tankdale. Awesome, outstanding, Deshaun Jackson type, uh, player in Tankdale.


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[Assistant] Like, people think he's a pocket passer. He can get out the pocket, he can run, he can scramble, his moves inside the pocket are special. Uhm, you know, I just realized I'm not answering your question. So I'm gonna answer your question.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but when you look at, do I trust case? Do I trust Noah Brown? Do I trust Dawson Schultz? Do I trust the third, fourth and fifth options with a backup quarterback against this Brown's defense?


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[Assistant] I'm worried. If I'm a Texans fan, if I'm a Houston, Texas coach, I'm like, yo, we gotta come up with the best strategy.


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[Assistant] To succeed this week, because you got Miles Garrett, you got all these guys on the other side of the ball, that will make this extremely tough. Now last week they were able to beat Tennessee, but Tennessee is not in the same caliber. Uhm.


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[Assistant] As a teen, not the same caliber as the Cleveland Browns right now.


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[Assistant] So you're asking me, do I feel comfortable with these, uh, and I hate to put it this way, the backups playing against some starters in the NFL, I don't. I think there's some, I think there's some holes to be filled, and I think, uh, you might get overpowered when it comes to that Browns defense.


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[Assistant] He's excellent inside the pocket. He's finding different guys open. He's not forcing the ball down the field. He's taking what's given to him. The numbers speak for itself as far as CJ. Now let me get on Deshaun real quick. I think Deshaun is talented. I think his biggest downfall is right here in his head. I think that's his biggest...


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[Assistant] Throw into the open guard. That's all it is. You have one of the best running teams in the league. Now I know it's late. You got some big time injuries in the offensive line, so it's been different.


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[Assistant] But early in the year, I mean the coach, I mean the Ravens game, he went 14-14 in the second half. The talent is there. They won the Ravens game, mainly because of Deshaun Watson's play.


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[Assistant] If he played like that consistently, there would be no discussion about how great he is and how good he can be. I watched him first hand here with the Texans for 2, 3, 4 years, whatever it was. Uhm, but he truly is, his battle is in his head.


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[Assistant] Of your two years, right here. So I think if he can calm that down, he'll be fine. But no doubt about it, the CJ's better than the Sean Watson right now, for sure.


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[Assistant] Players play ball, man. I don't think that's too surprising from Joe Flacco. Like, Joe has been a guy that, uh, in my opinion, he understands how to win in December and January. He understands how to win in these moments. He's been to the Super Bowl, he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. He understands how important it is. Uhm, and Joe is a true professional. Like, for him to come in, I think he had maybe one week?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think he has some help in the Mari Cooper and David and Joku and Joku is playing outside of his mind. My gosh. He's playing like a top five tight end in the league the last probably eight, nine weeks. He's been, he's been outstanding. No matter who the quarterback was, right? Uhm, and I think a lot of this has to,


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[Assistant] Uh, type of coach he is, type of leader he is, how he's able to get the best out of his guys. Uhm, Andrew Berry too, that's a great high, that's a great signing for, for Joe Flacco. To have a vet come in.


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[Assistant] That understands how to win in December. What these games matter. A guy that's gonna prepare. A guy that has the capabilities to get the ball down the field and make the right reasons simply, and simply find the open guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's a credit to those guys, man, but I'm not surprised by Joe at all.


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[Assistant] I think you've seen it before, certain guys that they take care of their body and have that ability, they can go down, they can play a long time at that quarterback position.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was pretty bad for much of the first three quarters, but like we've seen a number of times this year, when the defense kept the team in the game, what the defense did was magnificent.


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[Assistant] You talk about a secondary ravaged by injuries. Denzel Ward was back, but he wasn't right. Miles Garrett, still not 100%. We know the hits they took on the D-line. And the defense was absolutely lights out in this game. And then when it mattered, after struggling for much of three quarters,


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco and the offensive line, which also was terrible for three quarters, even worse than Flacco was.


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[Assistant] The defensive line did their job, excuse me, the offensive line did their job in the fourth quarter, and Joe Flacco did as well. And what's really funny is, we're used to the same old Browns, right? When the Browns scored that touchdown with 32 seconds, uh, scored the game winning field goal, with 32 seconds left.


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[Assistant] And it was almost another same old Browns moment, except it's not the same old Browns anymore, Jay. It's the new Browns who find a way to make the field goal when they need it. Who find a way for the other team to miss the field goal. And in this case, the Hail Mary that almost gave us all a heart attack.


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[Assistant] And who was he interviewing on his show when I turned it on? Jim Brown. Jim Brown.


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[Assistant] I did think Ford was part of the problem yesterday. I haven't blamed him much to this point, but anyway.


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[Assistant] Well, most passing yards, first three games of a Browns career in the history of the franchise.


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[Assistant] The Browns had one drive in the first three quarters that was good. The one touchdown drive was a good drive. They didn't do anything.


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[Assistant] Until about 12 minutes to go on the fourth board, besides that one drive. But when it mattered, in those 12 minutes, he and they were magnificent. He was great.


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[Assistant] Uh, Najoku was great, Cooper got good when we talked about it all, but Joe Flacco, after making some mistakes early, and it was probably Tillman's fault that first interception, he probably ran, more likely that he ran the wrong route than Flacco had the wrong read, but you never know.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, in the end, when it mattered, he was brilliant in those final 12 minutes, so.


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[Assistant] I don't know, for the first three quarters he got a D, and then, or, or, yeah a D, and then the fourth quarter he gets an A++++, so I don't know, I don't know what


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[Assistant] I thought he was going to get in. I did too. By the way, on that touchdown with Amari Cooper, not only was it a great throw by Flacco, but how, like Cooper a couple of times, I was like, oh no, he's going to fall out of bounds. He looked like he was losing his balance a little bit.


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[Assistant] Can we see that again? Can you run that one more time?


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[Assistant] How do you have, one of you guys said, how do you have the confidence to make that throw if you've thrown so many picks in a game? I think you said a G, right? And I'm just like,


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[Assistant] What's, what's great about this team, what makes this team fun to watch is to some degree it feels like they're playing with house money this year. Because, you're right, the team doesn't feel that way, but from an outside perspective it's like,


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[Assistant] He, I don't think he's feeling any pressure right now. He's playing loose, he's playing free, he's like, hey, and the reason he throws picks is cause he makes throws like that, and you're gonna miss some of those, and you're gonna throw a pick, but it's not gonna stop him, he's like, eh, uh, next time I'll hit it.


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[Assistant] And the Browns opened as a one and a half point dog in Houston, which I- That shocked me. I assume that, that means that he's gonna be, that, uh,


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[Assistant] Guys, I thought this defensive performance was, it just blew me away. It really did because obviously they had some great defensive performances early in the season when everybody was healthy.


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[Assistant] You lost a bunch of guys off your D-line this week. Clearly, even though Ward was playing and Myles Garrett were playing, neither one is 100%. Now Myles is, you know, he's continuing to progress and he, he got close a bunch of times to sacks. But Denzel Ward, you know, missed that tackle that he missed late in the game. If he were healthy, he makes that play. I think.


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[Assistant] But considering the injuries and the thinness of the defensive line, and the Bears were playing their best football coming into this game. We talked about their defense, which was impressive.


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[Assistant] But also their offense has been playing pretty well. They didn't run at all. They didn't run either. DJ Moore didn't do much in this game. Colt Comed had a decent game, but Justin Fields did not kill him with their legs.


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[Assistant] And I thought, I mean you think, I mean the defense really gave three points. Yep. Because they scored, the Bears scored a pick six.


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[Assistant] Yeah, by the way, you talk about the Miles Garrett play real quick. That was a huge impact play on that last Bears drive or the second to last drive to get that stop where he was Khalil Herbert, I think who ran he on the first play to five yard loss.


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[Assistant] Now you've got him. Now you've got him. That was a huge huge play.


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[Assistant] I hear ya. I have changed my tune on this. I used to be old and curmudgeonly on this. Now, if they're losing by, I saw somebody on the, uh, uh, the Chargers did that. Eckler did that on a first down. He's single first down when they're down like 40 points. That's one thing.


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[Assistant] The only complaint about the defense for me was, how the hell do you get two float men on the field penalties in that goal line situation? Well I don't know what happened there. By the way, one other guy we left out.


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[Assistant] Well, the Ravens are probably the one, so if the Bills end up as the seven, they'll probably play either Kansas City or Miami.


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[Assistant] I think it's Cedric Tillman. I thought he made a big impact on yesterday's game.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper now 15 yards away from the first ever back to back thousand yard season by a Browns receiver. 15 yards. Knock on everything.


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[Assistant] The final drive to score the field goal. I think it was third and 15 when he hit Najoku. Before that play, I'm like, alright, we'll get him in overtime. You know, go to overtime. And he completes that play and you're like, oh my god. I mean, they wouldn't get 30 yards in that play. It's unreal. I mean, there were so many moments of this game, like that won the game, that won the game.


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[Assistant] He's doing amazing things out here. I don't think he's underrated. I think he's fairly rated. I mean, I think he's, I think people around football think of Amari Cooper as a very good but not elite wide receiver. And I think that's what he is. I agree.


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[Assistant] I think so. I don't think he's underrated. He's really good.


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[Assistant] I mean, we, you know. Because you're right about the Nick Chubb comparison. Right? They're similar guys, as like, you know, Odell and Jarvis are more flashy type receivers. Yeaah, and they just didn't work. More personality type. But you know, listen, Baker was flashy and a lot of fans loved him. And kudos to Baker, he's playing well right now. But, uh, you know, a lot of fans


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[Assistant] Uh, 29. Yeah, I would extend them another year. Get them through age 31. Spread that money out. Spread it out a little. That's punitive.


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[Assistant] They have terrible chemistry. They got bad guys. They don't play hard. Like, and now it's a, it's a complete 180 from what they were. Now they're a tough team. Now they're a fight hard team. And I think, gee, you said it earlier. I think you're a hundred percent right. We all talk. Of course we do. We, the fans, all talk about the injuries, the injuries.


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[Assistant] I wasn't as con, I wasn't as convinced before the season on Barry as I wasn't, I was already convinced on Stefanski. I wasn't as convinced on Barry, but I think now they both should get extensions. I agree.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can have success. One guy we haven't mentioned, sorry, Earl, real quick. Galvin Tomlinson with the fitness. He stepped up big time in a lot of big plays yesterday. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] By the way, it's Jaren Christian. It's Jaren. And we're gonna crap on, uh, Mark Sanchez for screwing up names. We gotta pronounce names right too.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's gonna lose it because it's the Browns. I think, as Jason's right, he might lose it because he just won it a few years ago. But I, right now today, he would be my first choice. Uh, what's his name would be too, from the Texans? D'Amico Ryan. D'Amico Ryan.


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[Assistant] They're at the Chargers. That's an easy win. And then they host the Patriots. Those are easy wins.


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[Assistant] Right, so at the moment the Dolphins are the two seed, they're ten and four. The Chiefs are the three seed at nine and five.


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[Assistant] We're tied with the Chiefs. Crazy. Yeaah. And then the Jaguars, because it's a division champ, or as of right now, would be the south champs, even though they're tied with both the Colts and Texans, but as of now the Jaguars have the tiebreaker, they're the four seed.


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[Assistant] At eight and six. The Browns are fifth at nine and five. The Bengals are sixth at eight and six. The Colts are seventh at eight and six.


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[Assistant] The Texans and Bills are eight and six, but as of now don't have tiebreakers, so they're eight and nine. So there's nine teams that are eight and six or better, still not done. The Steelers at seven and seven, the Broncos at seven and seven, and even the Raiders at six and eight.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville's three remaining games. They are all winnable. They are at Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] They host the Panthers and then act the Titans.


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[Assistant] I mean it's almost going to feel like a playoff game. Other wild card teams, Bengals, at the Steelers, at the Chiefs, Browns at home. That's tough. We gave you Buffaloes before, I'll give it again.


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[Assistant] Buffalo at the Chargers hosting the Patriots at the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] And then I'll give you, uh, who else? Indy, one more.


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[Assistant] And the Jets are falling apart. They're, they got crushed by the Dolphins yesterday. They're aberragingly coming back, you know.


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[Assistant] Right. Or, the only other, if that game means something, you want it to mean something for the division, unlikely, cause the Ravens seem like they're not gonna blow that. But, that's it. If you can't win the division, there's a decent chance the Browns could be locked into that five seed.


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[Assistant] I think they gotta lose all three of them. What is the Ravens division record right now?


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[Assistant] And the Browns. So they're three and two in the division and the Browns are three and two as well.


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[Assistant] They would finish four and two in their division, correct? Yes. If the Ravens lose to the Niners and lose to the Steelers,


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[Assistant] The Ravens have 11 wins now, right? Yes. 11-3. They're two up. That's it.


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[Assistant] I don't think so I think it's in Baltimore.


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[Assistant] I think it'll, I always think it evens itself out eventually. By the way, did she hit Darius Tonyman and other stupid play like an interception? Emma Holmes was pissed!


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[Assistant] How about if you were in a coma, and you woke up, and all I told you about the Browns was, penalties, injuries, and, and turnovers.


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[Assistant] You're right. Pay is Venmo. Oh, there's a special thing like Venmo that's just for super rich people. They have their own thing. I think they do. It's called tax breaks.


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[Assistant] By the way, technically Brady did not come out of retirement to go to Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] I'm on it. I got a plug for the first time ever, my podcast, The Bullpen with Adam the Bull. I'll be going live tomorrow from 5 to 6 p.m. Wow. Live pod, well, not till 6 p.m.


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[Assistant] He did a great job. The whole cast did great. They had a farewell party yesterday. Some of the kids were crying because they were so sad that it was over. And, uh, it was great. He did a great job. I'm very proud of him. And, uh, he was magnificent. And every show was sold out. A hundred tickets for all.


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[Assistant] That's nuts, you guys! That's crazy. Insanity. That's crazy. That's crazy!


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[Assistant] Now that, well now that we know that G is the final person here today, that means there's only one guy that isn't here today. And it's a very good reason why, you know. Jay, Jay's allegedly sick. Allegedly. Yeah, out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] That's what it is. Now off to executive, executive Steve. We gotta get you. I gotta, I gotta find a way.


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[Assistant] It depends on what they record. Cause you know, Mike Tomlin never wants to finish under 500, which he has never done. So if it comes to that game where you sitting at 8-8, like, they gonna go a lot to try to get that.


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[Assistant] You ain't gonna use them. From the time this, from now, from the time you got them last week to the end of the year, you're not gonna use them.


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[Assistant] Even if they wasn't locked in, as long as they locked into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] The thing about the Browns though, is that yeaah, they dealt with probably the most injuries.


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[Assistant] Evan Ingram, you said that? I said Ingram. Uhm, there's, I mean I don't, I don't see it.


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[Assistant] MJ Emerson pretty much don't really get targeted. When he does, he make them pay. So it's like, how many times has they actually thrown?


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[Assistant] How many games did Denzel miss? Three? Three.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's obvious what happened. There's one key thing that happened from this year and last year. He's juicin'.


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[Assistant] Obviously they fixed that this year. Having Jim Schwartz in there really simplified a lot of things. Like bro, you see this, go.


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[Assistant] Guess what? You don't have to cover that long when you got a guy with 13 sacks.


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[Assistant] His, his preparation, his gang preparation, JOK, has been...


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[Assistant] It's been phenomenal. Like some of the plays, as you know, we do Coach Tyvis on Friday with Mcnuggets. And some of the plays when we broke his film down, I looked at it, I'm just like...


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[Assistant] Four years into the league, I started playing with my hands more because I realized like I'm, my length is long so I can boom and move people out the way. But with him,


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[Assistant] I mean, that's fine, but you can't watch that game last week and tell me that you


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[Assistant] Look at other teams practice squads and what you want to do is you want to find one of those teams that


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[Assistant] Run a similar offensive style. So you need to look at the Rams with Sean McVeigh. You need to look at maybe the 49ers practice squad. Teams like that that run, so when you bring them in here, they're already used to.


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[Assistant] And you don't have to really worry about trying to get them ramped up on the playbook because they'll have a good grasp on it because you're getting it from a similar system.


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[Assistant] Offensively somewhere else. I think that's the way you have to address it, but if you don't want to do that, if you want to ride it out with what you got,


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[Assistant] You have to start running some jailbreak screens with Elijah Moore, getting that ball on the edge, some bubble screens, getting that ball out on the edge that way and trying to get some rushing yards that way because this offensive line, they just don't provide the gaps that they need.


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[Assistant] Pierre Strong, you got to get the ball out in space. I think that's just the only way you're going to be able to get this running game going. And as far as the passing game goes, there's going to be a lot of chipping, David Najoku and


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[Assistant] And all the other tight ends, y'all better get on James Hudson's side and get ready to chip release every time.


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[Assistant] And getting those grave digger positions, if y'all don't know what a grave digger position is, that's when they slightly behind the tackle in the two point stance, they're there to provide max pro. You'll be happening to do that a lot where you'll have a three man route, which sucks, but it'll give Joe Flacco the time he needs to get rid of the ball.


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[Assistant] And if you, if you're smart, you can take your, so I've been on practice squad, so I know a thing or two.


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[Assistant] Say you on practice squad, right, and you feel like maybe I'm not gonna get a chance to get promoted on this team. What you gotta do is you gotta take some of your practice film, send it to your agent, and your agent can kinda ship it around, and then that'll have, he can show it to other teams, and they'll be like, oh, we can go sign that guy.


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[Assistant] Say the coach tackles him, right? Right. But nobody's around. Can the player then get up and continue to run?


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[Assistant] Well Steve Becker said something close to that happened in 1954 Cotton Bowl between Alabama and Rice. Oh really? That's what he said. He sent a video too. Let me look at it. Alright.


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[Assistant] You know what the funny thing is, when we was in Seattle, I think it was Mike Bennett that used to say that too. The running back? No, the defense end. Michael Bennett.


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[Assistant] So it was like, he encouraged it. Earl was quiet. Earl, you wouldn't, he wanted to, I told you I wanted to go get a haircut at Earl's house. He invited us all over. I spent, I was at Earl's house for literally four hours. I didn't see Earl one time. What? I didn't see him one time. What was he doing? Watching film.


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[Assistant] He goes off, he goes duck off in his own place. He gots like a secret place in his house where he goes and he watches tape.


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[Assistant] They got there at like 11, he said he, he said he told him to meet there at like 6 and he got there at 610 cause the place was like 20 minutes away. Cause he was like, I'm about to work out like right now. And the dude was like, it's 545. He said, I'm working out at 6. What is that? Said the dude was like,


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[Assistant] His dude was like 20, 25 minutes away from the place Earl was working at. So he got in the car immediately, he got there, he was like 10 minutes late. And Earl said...


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[Assistant] Let me get a camera. Alright, so for this, we run cover three in Seattle all the time, right? So you know, you got a, you got a corner with a third, corner with a third, boom. This guy's a buzzer, okay? But if you get the threat of four verticals, you get a four vertical threat,


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[Assistant] It turns into a similar, so this guy carries his guy, this safety is responsible for the seam of this two, right?


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[Assistant] So what Earl would do, so every other safety would line up on this hash, right? This hash marks, he would line up on this hash because they hit this seam right between the numbers and the hashes. That's where the seam, they'll belly it out and they'll come back in and hit the seam right there. Earl would purposely, he would line up all the way over here.


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[Assistant] He said, I'mma get to that scene, trust me. I want them to throw that ball.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause when you come out, every quarterback's gonna look at it and be like, oh my god, this scene was wide open, so he gonna get it and he gonna throw it right away. Earl would, so, it was funny, so he would put his back, nah, he was a little smarter about it, he would put his back


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[Assistant] To this scene, meaning he's looking this way. That's how his stance would be. He would look this way towards this scene. And he would look at the quarterback. And as soon as the quarterback snapped, if he would catch it and look, Earl would just take off. And he'd make it there. I don't know how. I guess the 4-3 speed would work for him.


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[Assistant] But I tried it and like I said, they hit it, they hit it and I've never made that mistake again. So yea, you cannot watch Earl. Earl, and Earl is also the guy that


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[Assistant] Will, you got to post on third. You got to post. But if Earl see that they like to throw that dig, he will vacate that post to go get that dig. And you'll be like...


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[Assistant] Sure, it actually happened to Sherm. Sherm be like, you know I need you back there in the post. He said, I seen that they was going to throw this dig, so I jumped the dig.


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[Assistant] And he would look and be like, oh, I know this formation. I know what play was coming. He would get off the defensive end and go line up and go just shoot the gap that he know that they run into. And it would work. I couldn't believe it. That's, that's blasphemy. He would get up out of his spot and go line up in the gap and just shoot it.


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[Assistant] You can't be a robot. A lot of people go off of, the playbook tells me to do this, so imma do what the playbook says. But it takes the football aspect out of it.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's talk about this secondary. I mean, they, they're dealing with a bunch of injuries. Obviously, Lon Thornhill and Dale Pitt is being out and, and what is up with Denzel only coming in on third down? Is he not 100% healthy? What is that about?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, we're looking ahead to this Houston Texans game. What is your biggest concern that the Texans do that you think the Browns will struggle with?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, do you know the status of, uh, Anthony Walker? I know he, uh, was out last week. Uhm, is this, this injury that he sustained in practice something that's long term or do you think he'll be back next week?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think that's the part, like, and Texans has been hot as of like the past five, six weeks. They've been rolling, so.


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[Assistant] There's even more reason why I'm more concerned.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's omitted. That's an asterisk.


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[Assistant] And I said, okay. You know what was bad? You know what was bad about Maryland? Is that after that game, y'all kind of win.


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[Assistant] You know Sean, when you look at the defensive side of the ball, J.O.K. has been playing unbelievable this season. I mean, he has, what, he got 18 TFLs and three and a half sacks. For my god, that was


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[Assistant] Nothing last year. I won't say he was nothing. He wasn't that great last year. This year he's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] You know, what do you think contributed to that? Is it the coach? Is it the scheme? What is it?


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[Assistant] Are you talking about seeing double teams and triple teams? Like I like Miles Garrel. How do you defeat though? What's the best way you think to defeat a double team or a triple team?


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[Assistant] So what you saying Sean is that I should get back in shape and get back out there because I mean I'm very appreciative of the game and I'm only 29 so, you know.


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[Assistant] Did you see my film work? Listen, I'm telling y'all right now, if I was to train for two weeks. You could play for the Browns? I'd be back. Now the only problem man. Put that tape together.


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[Assistant] See, the reason I, Ronnie Hickman is a better athlete than me right now. The only thing I have over him is knowledge. I understand the game of football.


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[Assistant] I just squatted, I just squatted like 275 yesterday. Is that good? No. I don't even know.


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[Assistant] I have a friend that lost his fantasy playoff matchup by a point.


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[Assistant] Four. Because Kenneth Walker had two negative plays. Oh wow. That's tough. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] I said the same thing. I said that the, him throwing for 40, but you know the thing is he has a big arm and like right now you gotta do what you gotta do week to week and you just.


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[Assistant] That's sick. Crazy. That shouldn't be possible! Listen, they gotta fix it by the playoffs because they're gonna have to come back to bite you. Go ahead, next.


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[Assistant] The math ain't mathin'. I don't think he, I don't, like, he must didn't have a lot of great options. That don't make no sense. Because he's not that good.


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[Assistant] Was I was going to get Atlanta's defense this week because they're playing Carolina. Yeaah, it's a big, it's a hot pick. Guess who decided to, guess who they decided to get a defense to? Jason Cross, Jason Slash.


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[Assistant] Let's pair it up to kick me out. That's alright, I'm gonna talk today.


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[Assistant] I think that when you're, when you're a new quarterback and you come to a new team, you know, those first couple of weeks are the best weeks for you to ball out because nobody knows your tendencies, there's no tape on you, nobody knows how you're going to operate in that offense. Now that two weeks has happened, these, these defensive coordinators are like, this is what he likes to do. Let's take that away. Now they're challenging you.


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[Assistant] And if you can't make those end game adjustments and take it to the next step, then you're gonna fail.


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[Assistant] And I think that's why you see, you know, the Josh Dobbs or all these other guys that's starting to struggle because these defensive coordinators have figured out who they are and they haven't added another wrinkle to their game.


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[Assistant] The one thing, the one confident thing I have about Joe Flacco is...


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[Assistant] Due to the fact that he's had a long career and he's had a successful career, he can switch things up.


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[Assistant] But I also believe it's not always just on these backup quarterbacks. It's on that head coach as well.


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[Assistant] You know, Kevin Stefanski has to become very strategic in his play calling. You can't make everything continue to look the same and do the same things because now that's on tape and these defensive coordinators are going to take that away. So you got to do a better job of getting that run game going something that we've been thinking about and you got to have


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[Assistant] You can put the same look out there, but it has to be something, the route combination has to be totally different to keep these defensive guys honest. And that's how you protect Joe Flacco for the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] All I, what I did was, I'm trying to help out. I'm trying to, you know, say why, why, what, what.


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[Assistant] I will say, in fairness, a little bit of fairness.


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[Assistant] They ain't had no receivers like that over there. Oh, then off Garrett Wilson? He wasn't...was he there? No, he was...


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[Assistant] You gotta be able to save. You can't have this man throwing 40 times for 10 straight weeks. Like I don't think that that's what you want to do. You gotta get that run game involved and you gotta make sure that you put him in situations where you know he can thrive.


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[Assistant] You can't, and the reason he's been able to be successful is a breath, it's a breath of fresh air. It's like, it's like when Aaron Rodgers was with Nathaniel Hackett, you know, Nathaniel Hackett go off and be a coach, he wasn't that great.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers wasn't that great without Nathaniel Hacker. But together, they're really good.


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[Assistant] That baby might, that could be the same situation with Joe and Kevin Stefanski. They understand each other. They speak the same language and right now Kevin Stefanski's putting him in situations to win games and he's managing it and making those throws. Right. As long as they continue to do that, they'll have some success. But the moment


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[Assistant] I agree, but that's not the point. Listen, let me ask you a question about Tyreek. Tyreek after the game, he, you know, he got hurt and he came back and then he gave his explanation. Why is it that his wife is more hard on him than his wife?


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[Assistant] They need to make a good, they just need to block it up one time. Let Pierre Strong go ahead and make the right read and take it to the house.


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[Assistant] You know, you're gonna get 18 to 20 carries. But I think he, he has to, uh, the way it seems to me, you gotta earn the right to carry the football. And I think the reason that he gets his couple of carries is because he's so good on special teams that they like- So it's a bone. Yea, like alright, you did well here, we'll give you the ball.


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[Assistant] I mean, you got to see him in the preseason. I don't, it's not like he stood out to me in the preseason at all.


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[Assistant] I think that it's off the fact that you have guys, you have four good defensive tackles every week that was healthy and that was much more productive. And I just think he kinda got lost in the shuffle. I think he was one of those guys that we don't need you until we need you. We gonna let you go out and go to practice, become a pro, learn how to train, learn some of these moves from these veterans.


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[Assistant] But right now we're going to pick you on ice right now because these guys are actually being productive in there. I think with him,


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[Assistant] Obviously he was a big boy. I think he was like, what, 380 or something like that. 360. Yeaah, something like that. So, he has to learn how to play on the NFL level. I think that you can't just be big. Like, you gotta have some pass rushing moves. You gotta be able to bully somebody.


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[Assistant] When they drafted him, they said, cause I sat there and I talked to, I talked to Andrew Barry and Kevister Faskey, shout out to the Brown radio network for allowing me to cover the draft, uh, I sat there and talked to Kevister Faskey and Andrew Barry.


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[Assistant] That hurts. I tell you what, G hit on something. I don't know. Did you say this on the show or after the show? But when you was like, teams need to get dudes like, like Patrick Mahomes and all these guys got like seven dudes that they work with. Yeah, yeah. They do need to do it.


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[Assistant] You gotta be a pro, like what makes these guys a pro is because of what they do outside of just in the building. I know, but they do have coaches.


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[Assistant] Like that's the window that coaches have with you. Right. After 3.30, what are you doing? That's the part. That's what's going to... And that's on you. That's it. That's on the player. That's what takes you from being just the guy to being the guy. So don't go back and play X-Bot. Right. No. Go back and hire an individual position coach.


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[Assistant] I tell you right now, Tyvis Powell was a guy at 330, in the pros, when I was a practice crowd guy, I turned that playstation off. The day I was named the starter for that first week, I didn't touch that game and I played one of the best games of my life, so I know what it takes.


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[Assistant] The problem is, the person that I looked up to played the Xbox a lot.


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[Assistant] What I think, so I, you know how you, it was a couple of guys sitting there, and when you look at them, I'm like, they looked like they probably were running backs. Looked like they was the running backs at the time. I ain't played running back ever in my life, but I think I would have been in their jump camp.


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[Assistant] Well my problem, I got one problem with Collins. My only problem with Collins is the day he signed to Cincinnati, he called Joe Burrow and told him, you got a new bodyguard, you ain't gotta worry about nothing.


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[Assistant] You're near the front of the race. Are you guaranteeing that I'm gonna see next season? No guarantee in sports.


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[Assistant] That's very, I mean as far as the outside and off as it tackles, but outside of that, that statement is pretty profound.


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[Assistant] We're good, but what do you say about Deshawn's last game?


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[Assistant] It was terrible, guys. I watched Jared Allen last night and I'm like, oh, oh, the Celtics got your number. Listen, Jared Allen is the most uncomfortable person in the perimeter I've ever seen. That boy, their unicorn was standing at the top of the three point line, he ain't want nobody, he kept sagging, no, he didn't really want to get up there and I'm just like,


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[Assistant] Like, this would have been the game that you needed at Evermole League to be able to go out there. This would have been one of those games you had to sit Jared Allen until maybe Al Horford came on the court. But, yea, the reason Tristan Thompson is doing well is because Tristan Thompson got some dog in him. I mean, that's just what it is.


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[Assistant] 50 hours and counting to Brown's Jags in what mathematically is the biggest game of the year so far. We'll explain that.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, 90 minutes today on the YouTube channel. Until next week, Jay. At 12, so far I said. Yeaah. Yea, so far.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, and then they all get bigger, man. They all get bigger. And there's kind of a way of calculating that, and we'll talk about that. Uh, the whole, the gang's all here. You're back from the winter meetings. I'm back. G. Bush is back. How's your throat?


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[Assistant] Man, did TJ take a shot to the jaw last night on the very first leg of the game? It's funny, not funny, injuries aren't funny. It's interesting how


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[Assistant] All of the Browns injuries that they sustained during the year, you can look around the league now and other teams are starting to pile up those injuries to key players. It's that time, it's December. It's that time of year. Busy show, our 90 minute show. We're going to dive into the matchup of course.


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[Assistant] And of course, too many winning tickets to read just one. Congratulations to all of our many viewers who scored big on the Thursday night game last night. A big loser for me. I said that game would go under. Tyva said it's going over all day. He was right. He was right. I like the Patriots and they covered.


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[Assistant] It's not actually going to be cold the next couple of days. It's supposed to be almost 60 today and it's going to be 60 in sunny tomorrow. And by the way, last night was the first night of Hanukkah. So to all who are celebrating like Mikey McNuggets and I, are you going to celebrate Mike?


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[Assistant] That makes you Jewish. It goes by your mom. So anyway, Happy Hanukkah to all those who celebrate. Does it go by your dad?


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[Assistant] No, it goes by your mom. That's it, I never knew that. I didn't know the religious gene was carried on from one parent to the other. I had no, I had never heard that. Maybe in the Jewish faith it is. Yup, that is, that's how it goes. Okay, very interesting. We know for sure who your mom is, you never know for sure who your dad is.


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[Assistant] Obviously every game is big the rest of the way. First of all, it's 17 football games. You're battling for a playoff spot. With what happened last night, the Browns went from the 7th seed in the East to the 5th. Yea, and they didn't play. They didn't play because the Steelers lost and not only did the Steelers drop,


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[Assistant] But the Browns then flipped, jumped over the Colts because the tiebreaker changed. Yes, there's no longer four teams. Right now it's three and that made a difference, but it could change again this week. Obviously these things change a lot. Obviously the Browns playoff odds are much better if they win. Of course they're much better if they win. They're seven and five battling for a playoff spot and there's only


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[Assistant] Uh, five games to go in the season. But no, the season's not over if they lose this game.


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[Assistant] The Steelers are still alive. Of course they are. And so are the Bengals and so are the Bills and so are the Broncos who are 6 and 6. It gets harder every game you lose at this point makes it harder. But it's definitely not a must


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[Assistant] It was literally the powerhouses of the NFL for a decade, going back a decade, against, you know, a team that is going for the number one overall pick. It was a bad loss.


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[Assistant] I know! I'm gonna rephrase that. Not lost his fastball, lost his interest a little. I feel like he's just not that into it. I wonder if it's because he's no longer the voice of the biggest game of the week. That can affect things. It can.


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[Assistant] He is, he's been the biggest voice for a network going back 40 plus years. It is crazy. And I still enjoy his calls very much. Is he what he was when he was Monday Night Football with John Madden? Probably not, but I still love listening to him and I'd rather listen to him.


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[Assistant] Anybody else. I mean, he's kinda like LeBron. He's still great at an old age. You may not be the best anymore, but he's still great at an old age.


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[Assistant] The one thing that's interesting, I don't like that he tries to sneakily talk about the betting lines anymore. Remember how that was his thing? He was just like, it would be 27-13 and the spread was 12 and they just kicked the field goal to make it 14.


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[Assistant] The NFL has embraced gambling. It's okay. You can talk about spreads and all of that. It's okay. Herbstreet is excellent as the analyst. I think best in the business. College and NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, at least the high school football is over now, so he doesn't have to mix in that Friday, but he's done it all season. The guy is a machine. How does he do it? I can tell you how he does it. On January 16th,


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[Assistant] It does. And to Bull's Point earlier, are there three teams tied or four teams tied for the division? If it's just the two, it's easier to figure out, but it could be a three-way tie in that division. It could be. Indy's right there.


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[Assistant] You gotta must win. This is my name G Bush.


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[Assistant] I'm somewhere between you guys who I think are saying this is a game you really like to win, and you've got it super duper, which is like next level Super Bowl, you have to win. Uhm, for me, it's not, it just, it falls just before, just below a must win. It's a,


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[Assistant] Wow, we really, really, really, really would love to get this win. Yes. So must win means if you lose, you're eliminated. You're clearly not eliminated if you're the Browns. But there's a danger in playing the schedule game. Ask the Pittsburgh Steelers.


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[Assistant] Two weeks ago, they peeked ahead and thought, wow, we got a three week coast here. We got Arizona.


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[Assistant] And they blinked and now they're in the situation that no one wants to be in. They no longer control their own destiny. They've got, their path to the playoffs got a lot more difficult. Here's what I'll say for the Browns.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I love the way you phrased it. Think about how you're going to go to bed Sunday night off of a Browns win or a Browns loss. You're always, as soon as the game ends, you immediately start thinking ahead.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh wishes this morning, they had a mulligan. They had a do-over to take that game a little more seriously.


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[Assistant] You know, not a must win. We can sit here Monday if they're 7 and 6 and we'll talk about how they get it done from here. There is a clear path to the playoffs. It's just gonna mean they're gonna have to win some games that might not be as winnable as they want them to be.


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[Assistant] When I woke up Monday morning, I was expecting the Browns to lose to Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] He didn't, we didn't see yesterday in case you missed the video that came out of practice. We never saw him take a jog step.


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[Assistant] Two backpedal steps that were walks and threw footballs. That was it. And Doug Peterson was standing right there. And I think they had a little conversation at one point. And I think perhaps he said, okay, the camera crews got their video. We'll get this expedited onto Twitter so Cleveland sees it and thinks that you're going to play. But I didn't see him run. And let's face it.


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[Assistant] Uh, running is part of his game. Right. But in the end, in the end, I didn't, I don't, I'm with you guys. I don't think he's going to play either, but we know how it works. If you're a starting quarterback in the NFL and you tell the coach you can go.


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[Assistant] I just don't, I don't think there's an urgency for him to play.


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[Assistant] I'll be shocked if he plays. I think that Doug Peterson has done a terrific job of carrying out the play fake.


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[Assistant] You know, he's, he's done a great job of it, but that's what you want to do. You give your team, you give your opponent a strategic advantage if you announce when you don't have to who's going to start a quarterback, particularly when they're two different styles. So, I mean, I don't know. Now, if I had seen him running yesterday,


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[Assistant] And I think this, I think if he could run, he would've. Because you're trying to convince the other team you're good.


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[Assistant] At one point, there was a football thrown to him that was five feet to his left. And if you double time it.


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[Assistant] I saw it earlier this year with my own eyes. I saw when you took away Joe Burroughs.


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[Assistant] Run set, what he was. And he wasn't very good. And look, it's not because he can beat you with runs. He just becomes one dimensional. The pocket becomes, you can, you can, you can attack the quarterback in a different manner. You don't have to worry that he's gonna climb in the pocket and run.


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[Assistant] Okay, I just favored by three. Doesn't Vegas always know, okay, so it's moved six? I think, I think if, if, if they said C.J. Beathard is definitely starting, I think it would move, I think it would move a couple more points. You do? I think so. Once you, once it crosses the three point threshold and goes to three and a half, the movement happens quicker.


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[Assistant] Right. And what I will say is the fact that it looks like Denzel Ward is trending towards playing this week, I think there's no excuse for Jim Schwartz not to be more aggressive with his blitzing because Denzel Ward can shut down whoever he's going against. I agree with that 100%. It totally changes the way you attack if Ward is there or not. We saw that the last two weeks. If you're Jim Schwartz,


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[Assistant] How have you prepared this week for the Jacksonville Jags? Beathard? Because they're different. Sure. And you have to put in a different game plan. Are you preparing for the fact that it's Trevor Lawrence? Or do you think that it's going to be C.J. Beathard? I think if I'm Jim Schwartz, I'm always going to prepare for the better quarterback.


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[Assistant] Even though they're different. Yeaah, I am because, you know, it's not different like Lamar Jackson and Joe Flacco. It's not that big a difference, you know. Uhm, and I don't know, can Beathard move? I don't even remember if he's a guy. So, Tyves played with Beathard. Tyves said he can.


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[Assistant] Because we're not sure, and neither are the Browns. And because they're not sure, they're wasting time this week in preparation. No matter what they're doing. Because they're likely putting in two different packages.


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[Assistant] Oftentimes, you can get bogged down in looking at the yards per carry number if you're running it as much as they're running it. He's leading the league in carries, I think. He was when I looked last. He's third. Third. He's third now.


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[Assistant] If you're third in the league in carries, that means they've been doing it consistently. And the fact that I think he's fifth or sixth in yards... He's sixth in yards, third in carries. ...means that it's been successful for them. I don't agree with that. We could be... Well, you're looking at the yards per metric. Well, he's not efficient with his running. That means you're not good. I mean... I mean, I don't know if he's sixth in the league.


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[Assistant] To Etienne's credit, he has been dinged, but he has had games this year where he's run very well. The bottom line is, fact is they haven't been efficient running the ball. And so, the Browns need to shut it down. Simple as that.


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[Assistant] And I have known Bernie a very long time. I've never seen him.


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[Assistant] As excited and as enthused as he was about Joe Flacco's quarterback play, specifically, and later in our Channel 3 show at 12.30, he's gonna break down the tape of that skinny post that he threw to Omari in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] That even in real time, in the moment, I was marveling at it.


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[Assistant] Talk about the difficulty of that throw and the fact that he was able to do that two weeks off the couch with guys who he didn't know from Adam two weeks ago. That's something that players, quarterbacks and receivers that play together for years can't make look that easy.


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[Assistant] Tim, how do you think he's feeling physically, about to turn 39, hadn't taken any hits for 11 months, and now he took hits for the first time? What do you think that's like for him?


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[Assistant] Now, you mentioned they're easy to re-injure, if you're the Jags.


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[Assistant] And you're a game up on two teams in your division, but you run the risk of falling to even with them with a loss this week.


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[Assistant] Are you playing the short game and putting him out there, Trevor Lawrence, or are you more inclined to play the long game and let him use this week as a chance to heal?


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[Assistant] Uh, and get some time and then see what he has.


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[Assistant] Tim, Myles Garrett played last week coming off the shoulder injury, but it was his least productive game maybe ever. I mean, he seemed like a non-factor out there, and this is a guy we know how good he is. Uh, how concerned are you? Like, do you think, okay, now it's another week, maybe he'll be a lot better, or should we be concerned that, that he's gonna be subpar the rest of the year?


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[Assistant] Hey Tim, we've talked this week about how both head coaches are sort of playing quarterback games with the media in terms of.


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[Assistant] Not being very specific as to exactly who it's gonna be. We've seen it for years in the NFL. I'm wondering if you have a story where you were a part of those quarterback coach games where maybe you were gonna play, but your head coach wanted to send smoke signals that you weren't or the other way around.


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[Assistant] One of the things that came to mind for me yesterday, and maybe I'm just giving Doug Peterson too much credit, but we know that cameras are allowed in for the first 10-15 minutes at most, in most NFL cities. And it crossed my mind


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[Assistant] What if Trevor Lawrence actually is much better than we think and he is running around and Peterson wants to make Cleveland think that he's not going to play when he actually is. So he tells him, listen, when the cameras are out here for the first 10 minutes, don't run.


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[Assistant] Act like you can't move, be ginger on that leg, send the signal that you're not gonna play, and then when we kick the cameras out, the guy starts running all over the field. Who knows, maybe I'm giving Peterson too much credit, but that's a possibility too.


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[Assistant] Tim, here's the most important question of the day. Uh, we're in a wrestling ring. It's you, Kelly Holcomb, Bernie Kozar, Brian Sype, Johnny Manziel and Brandon Whedon in a Battle Royale. Who is getting out of that ring? Who is the winner of the Battle Royale? Would you take them all down?


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[Assistant] I do have to say that you've lost your accent, clearly. It's washed out a lot. But when I was covering you when you were in the 8th grade and I had moved from Ohio to 10 minutes from your hometown, when I moved down there,


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[Assistant] It really is, but yours is really washed out now. I can understand everything you say now, but. Alright, so now we have context to the Marble Mouth thing.


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[Assistant] Next punch, that's why I asked you, is it Bernie with the elbow spray, or without? With elbow spray. If he does have the pain relief, it might take two hits before Bernie's out. So there's three hits, five seconds, they're both on the floor. Now- Tony Holcomb doesn't seem like he's in great shape. What you mean? No, we saw him, we saw him, he doesn't- we asked him, could you come back, and he laughed at that. Yea, yea.


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[Assistant] Joe Thomas was on. Yea, you were here. Look, for you guys, he said, hey listen,


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[Assistant] I've got a way to stop the tushkush, uh, tushkush. In fact, I even told Jake Rudin this, and he really liked the idea, and that really piqued Joe's interest. Joe's like, no kidding, what is it? And he goes, you just give the defense tackle a knife.


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[Assistant] It is, but you gotta factor in the injury. Yeah, that's part of it.


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[Assistant] Lawrence is hurt. Josh Allen of the Jaguars. I've got him at number one. Is a great.


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[Assistant] We both have Allen. I'll go with Josh Allen. And I did too. And I had Denzel at number two. Any disagreement there? I know you're still saying Miles.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was hard for me to forget the fact that he didn't show up in the box score. Yeaah. I wouldn't put Denzel Ward second either, because he's coming off injury and I'm not sure where he is. I would put Calvin Ridley number two for me. See, I had him in my top five, but not number two, so we got, we got four different guys. We got four different guys as number two.


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[Assistant] I have Travis Etienne as number six. I got Taylor.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the fact that he is below 4 yards of carry doesn't deter me at all, particularly when he's 5th in the league or 6th in the league in rushing yards and 7th in touchdowns.


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[Assistant] What's the most efficient play you can have in football?


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[Assistant] Well how is Joe Flacco not on the list, guys? Because he's not one of the 10 best players in this game. I mean, he's playing.


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[Assistant] I think there's plenty to be concerned about when it comes to Joe Flacco. So, I mean, the bottom line for me is Amari Cooper is a better wide receiver than Flacco is a quarterback. That's how I'm looking at it. That's how I've been doing this every week for me. I thought that was the assignment. Apparently Mike changed that this week. No, it's just that if Cooper


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[Assistant] Look, here's the beauty of it. On Monday, among the things that we can talk about is which of the, which players had the 10 biggest impacts on the game. I'm sure it's very rarely the 10 players we pick. Probably very rarely.


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[Assistant] When they said last night the whole crowd was chanting Mason Rudolph, by the way, I thought Steeler fans last night were embarrassing.


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[Assistant] Embarrassing. I know fans have the right to boo, I get that. But they look like the most entitled babies of all time yesterday. And when they mention that Mason Rudolph is in his sixth year as the Steelers quarterback.


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[Assistant] Like one of the things we talked about yesterday when you guys weren't here was that, you know, on Wednesday, because you were here, is that perhaps the Browns have learned their lesson and teams I think in general are going to look differently at the way they view the backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] Particularly when you had a guy like Browning who's been in their system a couple of years, come in and perform so well. And for a lot of teams, it's been rotating chairs, they've been making waver claims and trades to get those quarterbacks. I threw something out when you weren't here and I'd love to get your reaction to it.


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[Assistant] It's in the league's best interest to have good backup quarterback play. Of course. I would love to see the NFL and the players union come to some sort of an agreement where


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[Assistant] They get an up to $10 million exemption from the salary cap specifically for the backup quarterback position. So we don't get in the situation that we've been in many times this year, particularly last night in


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[Assistant] In the 90s, teams had backup quarterbacks that were 10, 12 year vets. That can't happen now because they have to make a certain level of money when they've been in the league a certain number of years. So they're washed out and they're bringing in newbies at the most critical position.


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[Assistant] For fans and ratings are so critical for the league's future. That's how their next TV contracts are going to be set. Particularly when these games are landing in national exclusive windows. They don't want to see bad backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] That really is. That's a, that's a stat that's next level that most people have overlooked.


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[Assistant] Mike, before you do number two, can I ask you how your perception of the game changed after you viewed the All 22?


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[Assistant] Also, I think the Bengal success against Jacksonville on those plus 10 throws, it speaks to the fact that, A, they needed to do that.


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[Assistant] And also, their athletes at wide receiver are just better downfield.


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[Assistant] 7 of 7. 7 of 7, and that's the number that jumps out. By the way, if, uh, if, if, um, Jamar Chase has one more touchdown, I think he's gonna, I gotta give this stat, I thought this was an interesting stat.


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[Assistant] That if he has one more touchdown, he's gonna become just the fourth wide receiver ever.


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[Assistant] They have 3,500 receiving yards and 30 touchdowns after their first three seasons.


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[Assistant] Who are the other three? Do you guys want to know? Yes. Brandy Moss do it. What's one? They're all names you'd expect. Rice. Rice is two. T.O. had a good start to his career. Not T.O.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville, it's really hard to explain what they've done. But again, it's 5-0 with Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Who's BP again? 30 on the road. Who's who? Oh BP was Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean that's incredible. How do you explain it?


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[Assistant] Schedule? I think some of his coincidence schedule injuries. They got Zamfran at home. Yeaah, but the last two weeks they have had an injured Miles Garrett and no Denzel Ward and that's where, like where were they before the last two weeks on the road? It wasn't nearly that bad.


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[Assistant] And gee, that has manifested itself this year. Those long plays, I think, are a product of that.


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[Assistant] So maybe his defense is just going to be susceptible to those no matter what, and it's like the analogy in baseball, are the home runs a fair trade off for all the strikeouts?


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[Assistant] And also I think, Mike, it changes when the other play caller understands that blitzes aren't coming.


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[Assistant] Yeah. What is the percentage? Mike, you happen to know the percentage. Like have the Browns been blitzing less with Denzel Ward out?


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[Assistant] They're not pressuring the quarterback because Miles is not healthy. And maybe if they were pressuring the quarterback more, it wouldn't seem that way. I don't know, but. And, and there could be times where they're sending five, but we're missing it because no one's getting home. Right. Listen, the bottom line is when you talk about the what they're doing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I would hope that changes with Denzel Ward back, you'd think. And I would expect it to. Right? Yeah, I would expect it to. Especially, uhm, with their best receiver, or one of their best receivers off the field, and perhaps a backup quarterback. Like, that's, that's an indication.


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[Assistant] He's not, you know, as my good friend G. Bush would say, there's levels to this thing. He's not PJ Walker bad.


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[Assistant] against Cincinnati. He didn't do a decent job. Thought he did an admirable job. Right, but the Browns defense is better, is significantly, went healthy, significantly better than the Bengalti, and so if they can get a pass rush, I think C.J. Betham's gonna have a long day.


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[Assistant] But I only say if because they haven't had it the last two weeks. Yeah, no, I know. Well, again, no, because Ward's been out and Miles has been hurt. Hopefully another week off and Miles can, I don't think we're going to see the best of Miles, but can we get like, there's a lot of way, there's a lot of space between


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[Assistant] Miles usually does in what we saw last week. There's a lot of space. If he can cut half the distance, we'll be okay. We're going to do super chats, but before we do, Jason, I wanted to ask you kind of a technical question about the protocol. Uhm, he's, Amari has not been cleared.


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[Assistant] Doesn't sound like it, no. Yeah, he's still in protocol. Uh, in your experience, is still being in protocol Friday.


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[Assistant] And you'd like to take Amari Cooper out knowing that presently he's in protocol and you want to put Flacco in. I'll give you one more chance to save yourself from- No! No! No! I'm single Cooper. I'm going to go with this. Last week- See you Monday. Chris Olave-


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[Assistant] Was still in protocol on Friday. Oh good. That's what I was wondering. And he played Sunday. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen here. No, but that's what I was wondering.


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[Assistant] I love how, and I'm falling victim to it too. I've got Flacco in my top 10. But it's funny where our bar is and how it's a moving target. Joe Flacco has been awesome during his time in Cleveland. He threw the one pass that cost the team a chance to win the game.


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[Assistant] This is going to happen too, where it's not, it looks like it's Joe's fault, it's not on Joe. If guys run on the wrong route or a guy gets picked or whatever, we've seen that a couple times where he's throwing interceptions on plays that weren't his fault. So when you combine that with what Bull just said, because I agree 100% with everything Bull just said, yeaah, he's going to turn the ball over. You're still going to have turnovers.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Browns have survived all year playing football that we've said for decades, you can't win this way.


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[Assistant] But I just think that this is, I mean, they're pot committed now. This is how they're gonna play. And he's, and the throw that he made to Amari on that incredible touchdown throw that when it left his hands, I thought was gonna get picked.


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[Assistant] And real quick, every single week, I know I said when it was PJ Walker when it's DTR, don't turn the ball over, don't turn the ball over, don't turn the ball over. Because you didn't have the big playability flip side of that. Now you do to sort of offset


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[Assistant] Exactly what you were saying. If he throws a pick, well he's gonna come back with something a little bit better. So it's not as damaging.


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[Assistant] Nobody wants to turn the ball over, but it's not as damaging now as it felt like it was when it was DTR and PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] How many short fields has the offense put them in position? They're still getting dinged for that


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[Assistant] The passing game didn't really evolve and explode until the last 15 or 20 years or so, really. And the Browns have just been absolute horse crap for that entire time, so I'm not terribly surprised. But when you go back, like, the Browns had some really good teams in the 80s! It's just hard to believe, like,


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[Assistant] Raylan Edwards was an incredible talent, but you only did it once. Right. It just, it's, it's one of those, it kind of is like that Charger stat you threw out. It kind of blows your mind a little bit of how's that possible? And again, for so long, the,


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[Assistant] Passing game wasn't really part of the NFL offense or it wasn't really a featured component of it. It was the whole, you know, when you throw the ball, three things can happen and two of them are bad type mentality really up until about 20, 25 years ago. But I just, I, I just.


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[Assistant] I go back and look at those 80's teams and I just can't believe that it never happened. You know what?


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[Assistant] You're gonna love these blue seats! They're pretty! They're nice!


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[Assistant] And is it, why did that play look so unique? Was it the coverage?


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[Assistant] Was it throughout, or am I just making too much of it? I'm the same as you, I said earlier in the show, I thought it was a pick as soon as it left its hands.


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[Assistant] And I was talking to Garrett earlier, it just felt like it's a different route tree with Joe and some of these guys are running some different routes that they weren't with DTR and with PJ. And that play in particular is something that I had, I don't recall seeing before. Why did it look so unique and strange to, at least to me and I think to a lot of people?


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[Assistant] Sam, I wanna change up just for a second. The, the Steelers safety was suspended for the rest of the season after that throw in the Colts game. And I'm taking it back a little bit to Joe and I've joked with these guys before that PJ Walker was throwing hospital balls to Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] And got his ribs busted basically. And we saw, and I didn't think it was a very good throw in that Colts game that, uh, I forget the receiver now that got hurt on the play. But,