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[Assistant] This is what happens when you guys don't show up to work out. Like he's yelling at us to save it. Like he wouldn't yell at us to save it during a game. I think the fact that he's yelling at Patricia during a game is telling. He's not yelling at Bill Belichick. He's targeting at someone.


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[Assistant] Presumably that he's frustrated with, but it showed them later, you know, hugging and kissed on the sidelines after, after they scored a touchdown. But you do wonder what Matt, Matt Patricia's future is going to be for now. He's a play caller. They won the football game. They were able to make some plays. So that's good, but there's still a lot of questions about this offense.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I can't remember that. What's the Cardinals defense coordinator's name? Vance Joseph. So Vance Joseph's comments earlier this week, I don't know if you guys saw them, where he said, it looks like the Patriots offense is being called by defense coordinator. Did you see those comments?


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[Assistant] And he didn't mean it in a bad way. He was saying that it's like very, like, it's very vanilla. They don't want to turn the ball over. They want to keep things very conservative. And I thought it was very telling for Vance to say those words out loud, even though he didn't mean them in a derogatory way. But the implication is exactly what breach is talking about and what Mac Jones is upset about. So, uh, you know, those were.


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[Assistant] At the very least telling at the very worst troubling if you're Matt Patricia concerned about, you know, keeping that job or maybe partly isn't something else. I don't know.


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[Assistant] No, I mentioned earlier, this is a fantastic, uh, gesture by Nelson Aguilar.


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[Assistant] Davante Parker got smoked and somehow the, the concussion spotter missed him.


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[Assistant] And the next play was about to go off. Defante Parker's lined up, even though he clearly looks to be woozy and probably can cuss. And Nelson Aguilar is waving frantically, taking a knee, trying to get the officials' attention to make sure they get him off the field. And that's a huge change it feels like, even since last season, when players didn't want to come off or players...


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. Or even earlier this season with Tua, when Tua stayed on for, you know, someone missed him or they didn't think it was bad or whatever. So shout out to Nelson Aguilar, who, you know, had a drop in the game and that's frustrating, but, uh, he, he did, uh, his, his teammate is solid and I think that supersedes the drop breach.


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[Assistant] I was actually thinking, I would take, I would take Cliff Kingsbury over Matt Patricia and Matt Canada.


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[Assistant] I'll just say quickly, I don't know what's going to happen in, in three of those games, but in the Week 17 Gaming Dolphins.


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[Assistant] They're going to win by 50 points. And I was going to bring this up when, when Princeton, when you and I were in HQ today, uhm,


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[Assistant] The Dolphins had heaters on the sidelines last night in 55 degree Los Angeles.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be cold in New England, it's gonna be cold next week in Buffalo when they play. I, I don't think they're prepared for it. That was one of the things that we've talked about, we're concerned about with this Dolphins team down the stretch. So you can talk about the other three games, but that Dolphins game, it's a W.


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[Assistant] I do too. Cause of the weather. Primarily.


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[Assistant] All right, I'm gonna ask, Brinson, rank the record, the records from 4-0 to 0-4.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Ah, okay. Alright, so rank the records 3 and 0.


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[Assistant] Alright, so what's the probability they go 3-0? Or give me the odds. Would the Brentson odds go 3-0?


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[Assistant] No, we're going to assume that the week 18, let's assume that the bills are sitting sardis or whatever.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that feels about right. Like, there's a lot of work to do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Max, good. I'm still sticking with that. He just needs someone not to quit calling these plays that Breach are alluding to. Breach, do you think that, eh, to, for instance, the original question before I changed it, are the Patriots the sixth or seventh seed or are the Chargers jets, for instance, Jaguars? Who else is in the mix?


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[Assistant] I feel like that's what's gonna happen. And like I said last- Go ahead, Breach.


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[Assistant] And like I said last night, if they hadn't lost the Raiders last week, it wouldn't matter. Like they would be in a much better position. They'd be the sixth seed right now, and they, obviously, I'm assuming that...


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[Assistant] The, the Patriots still be outside looking in, cause the Dolphins would be at 8 and 5.


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[Assistant] They should go for now. Like it shouldn't even be close, but they won't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but as Breach likes to tell you, they gotta win out and then still potentially, potentially not see their dreams come true.


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[Assistant] So I think the Jets are, Mike White has ribs after he got absolutely demolished last, uh, on Sunday. So is it Flacco? Are you returning to Zach Wilson? If, if presumably Mike White can't go the entire game, if he gets another hit there, and then that complicates obviously how you're going to win things. But I'm actually just curious, who's your number two quarterback now for the Jets?


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[Assistant] Which is telling to continue to plug the, uh, with the first big podcast. So I asked Spielman today about the Christian Ponder selection.


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[Assistant] And I, and specifically I wanted to ask him, how long do you stick with a quarterback that you sort of know isn't going to work out? What do you think his answer was for first quarterbacks? How long they would, typically they would stick with quarterbacks. Three years. Three to four years. I said, uh, so this Zach White, Zach Wilson thing and Mike White's playing well. What are you doing? He goes, well, I think I'm giving them next year. I was like, Rick, I don't


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[Assistant] But here's my thing. So you overdrafted him because you, you need a quarterback and you often overdraft quarterbacks and you talk yourself into them. But then you see him in the locker room to breach his point and he ain't clicking with guys and whether he's entitled or rich or whatever, I don't know. That doesn't matter. But if he's not getting along with the guys and he's not.


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[Assistant] Sort of selling himself as a guy willing to put everything on the line. Is that gonna change?


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[Assistant] JS in the comments says trade Zach Wilson to Matt Ruhl in Nebraska.


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[Assistant] So yea, you're right. I am quick to pull the trigger on. So maybe he does get next year.


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[Assistant] Frustrated, seeing the same old stuff and no one changing things. But yea, alright, give Zach Wilson another year, but I think to Breach's point, I think he's done for 2022.


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[Assistant] Hold on though, Colt McCoy started two games and we thought, we said this in the Mexico game. It certainly feels like Cliff Kingsbury likes having Colt out there more than Kyler. Now look, Kyler's a much better football player and we're not discriming that, but let's not act like that. You know, they just signed Colt yesterday. Breach, continue to make excuses for Cliff.


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[Assistant] Worries me, but I don't think the offense had success in this matchup against what's becoming a very good Ravens defense. Jacksonville has a lot of 20 plus points in five straight, despite facing Indy, the Giants, the Broncos, the Raiders during that stretch.


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[Assistant] I lean on Baltimore at this number, but I think their defense keeps us one under. So I'm more apt to play the under. It was 45 and a half early in the week. Really liked it there. Now it's, it's been going down. So, so it's 43 and a half as we're looking at it right now. It's just a lean there.


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[Assistant] Norman's defense decimated by injuries last week. I think I thought Stafford played well before his injury. Dalton was a difference in that game. Huge bounce back in what, what supposedly is a tough match against the Rams defense, but they haven't looked very good the last few weeks, so maybe it's not.


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[Assistant] This is a tough matchup. San Francisco can shut down the run and get pressure. Uhm, will they score enough to cover is the question. I think playing under the New Orleans team total makes sense. It's likely going to be around 16 and a half. Uhm, probably plus odds at that number, but we'll see if it skews throughout the week.


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[Assistant] Eagles getting beat up for their run defense. They're 3.1 yards per rush against Washington, so it was fine. It was just, they had a ton of runs and that's why the final number looked big. 3.8 against India isn't awful.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Green Bay's offense couldn't run versus Tennessee. They need to run. Uhm, only 4.6 yards per play overall in that game. I think Philly has the edge in the defensive matchup for them versus the, the offense here. Philly's offense struggled in two tough matchups, uh, the last two weeks. That Indy, Indy defense is really good. Now they're facing a Green Bay defense that just got lit up by Ryan Tannehill in the passing game. I heard Ryan Tannehill. So, uhm, power ratings for me has a set.


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[Assistant] Philly plus six and a half, uh, is the Philly power rating six and a half points above average. At home, they should be laying over a touchdown against an average team. And I'm not sure the Packers are an average team. So this line should definitely be higher for me. I have it at nine and a half. That's why I have Philly as minus seven at best bet.


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[Assistant] The uh, yeaah, the Rams have no hope offensively, as Stafford has heard. I mean, they have little hope even with him. The Rams defense fell apart versus New Orleans, couldn't stop Arizona with Colt McCoy. Uhm, I don't think Kansas City is going to run up the score here. Line's too big to take Kansas City from me, but no interest in backing Rams. I would lean under 44. I just don't see the Rams scoring points at this point.


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[Assistant] The over under right now is 44, so you're splitting them at 22, take them down to what, 14 and a half, 15 and a half. So it's really like, it's probably 10.


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[Assistant] Uh, tough matchup here for the mediocre Pittsburgh offense, but Pickett looks like he's progressing. I agree with that. I think, um, he, he's not a finished product and I liked what I saw from him last week. I like Pittsburgh's chances of winning outright. So definitely play at plus three. For me, it's my first half of the teaser, teaser at plus two and a half, up to eight and a half in a low scoring game. Uh, so Pittsburgh plus eight and a half is half of my teaser.


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[Assistant] That line, the line should be near 10 when you consider how good the Jets defense is as Pete laid out there. I know the Jets offense is in disarray after that New England dud, but anybody can score on the Chicago defense. I don't care who's at quarterback.


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[Assistant] The last time the Jets faced a defense not in the top 10 of yards per play, they scored 27 against Green Bay. I think there's, there's some potential still in there for this.


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[Assistant] Offense and I know the defense is going to shut down the Bears if Justin Fields doesn't play. I think this line should be four and a half if he does play.


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[Assistant] If he doesn't play, like I said, I think it should be 10. So I think you're getting just great value laying it at the 4.5 without knowing what's going to happen and then hope he doesn't play and I don't think he does.


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[Assistant] Uh, solid 5.2 yards per play last week, but Vegas has appeared in the second half. I can't trust Denver's offense. Denver's defense had a dud versus Vegas. They still had nine of 10 games where the total in those games finished at 38 or less. So I can understand this number being as low as it is in terms of the total.


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[Assistant] Panthers defense coming off a second straight. Good game should shine in this matchup. Carolina offense can run the ball to stay in the game since Denver doesn't score. And, uh, the game won't get out of hand with whoever's playing quarterback for Carolina. It could be Baker Mayfield, could be Sam Darnold, maybe PJ Walker is healthy enough.


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[Assistant] Remember when, uh, back in like week three, when I would say Geno Smith is better than Russell Wilson and Brinson would play the sounder? Like, oh, look at that dunk on Russell Wilson. It's like...


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[Assistant] I thought he used to make good, I mean, you know, the defense carried him early, but you could say the same about Tom Brady too. I think he was a good decision maker at one point and he had the talent to, to make those deep throws and all those things, but he just doesn't have that. And that was deep passes are horrendous. Every time you watch him, you're like, okay, is it going to get picked off? Cause I know it's not going to be anywhere near the receiver.


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[Assistant] Chargers have two wins of more than three. They won by ten in Houston, uhm, which everybody can do. And then they won by five at home against the Raiders, which did, in week one, which does not look impressive at this point.


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[Assistant] The Chargers defense continues to look brutal. I think even McCoy can score points on them even though he didn't have a good game against that very good pass rushing in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I think that with those weapons, I expect the Chargers always to play to a field goal game either way, unless they're facing a basement level team. So I got Cardinals plus four is the best bet. Wait to see it go up. If you're, if you're listening to this, hopefully on Friday, maybe it's up in that five, five and a half range, you get even better value.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I fated them last week thinking they shouldn't be three and a half point favorites on the road. I forgot about Never Take Houston. That was a role I made early in the season and I broke it that one week. Not going to happen again. Never Take Houston again.


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[Assistant] Uhm, surprised Atlanta's offense didn't do more against Chicago in that game last week, just 2-9 on third down.


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[Assistant] I think that's a red flag for them offensively. And that's before you even get into the Kyle Pitts injury. They're not going to have him in this game. Uhm, and he had, his numbers haven't been to his draft status. I know people think that he's a disappointment.


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[Assistant] But I mean, now you just defend Drake Linden and that offense doesn't go anywhere. So passing offense. So I don't know what they do against Washington defense that dominated an awful Houston offense, but they've been playing great for weeks. So it's not just a factor of who they were playing there. I think Marriott could be under siege all day. If Atlanta falls behind, they have to play from ahead in this game.


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[Assistant] Um, Atlanta's defense doesn't get pressure. I think Heinecke should be able to pick apart Atlanta's defense. So I, play was on Washington at minus three, even with a bad home field advantage.


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[Assistant] They're definitely better than Atlanta because it was three and a half. I was hoping to get three. Now it's up to four, four and a half as we're looking at it on the screen now. My lean was to Washington at four. I still think I wouldn't play Atlanta in any, in any sense. So it's probably going to end up being a stay away from me.


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[Assistant] And you can expect it because the Raiders fixed themselves. You know, you saw that game. They obviously went up and down the field against Denver, scored a ton of points and the markets now moved to the Raiders. This was four and now we've seen Raiders money moved to three and a half.


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[Assistant] I don't get it. I think it's a great time to fade the Raiders after stealing a win in Denver with the late field goal, overtime touchdown. They easily could have lost that game. Seattle's offense, fifth in pass yards for play, seventh in rush yards for play. I'm not sure how Vegas, they can't, they don't sack the quarterback, how they slow them down either way.


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[Assistant] We'll see if it sticks now. Since his defense got worked in the first half against Pittsburgh showed up in the second half.


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[Assistant] But can they pressure here? I'm not sure. Their sack rate's 29, same as the Tennessee's offense. So if Tennessee's offense was facing a team with a good pressure rate, good sack rate, I would say, oh, it's bad news for Tannehill, but this isn't that team. So I don't know that they'll take advantage of that matchup.


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[Assistant] Since he's offense, unlikely to run the ball well. Uhm, Joe Mixon hurts, we'll even see if he even plays. If they get Jamar Chase back for this game, that'd be huge. I think that would affect the line, so if you like Titans, wait to see if he trends toward playing, because I think that pushes it up.


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[Assistant] Dolphins even more. I have dolphins as a best bet at minus 12. Uhm, I, my power ratings line has it at 16 and a half because I still don't think the dolphins are getting enough credit for how good they are.


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[Assistant] I went from 15% chance of making playoffs to zero. Okay, there you have it. That's how I feel.


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing about the titans is it's not like, it's hard to say he's underrated because this guy won coach of the year last season, so.


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[Assistant] People are aware of what he's doing. It's just that everyone sleeps on the titans all the time. They are like the scrappy little brother who you don't think could ever beat you one on one. He goes out, drains nine threes, hits you with reverse layup, and then even though he's 5'9", he still dunks it, and you're like, holy crap, what the hell just happened? This guy just beat me 21 to 2.


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[Assistant] Uh, and a game to 21 and that's what the times are like because you don't, it's, when we saw them face the Chiefs two weeks ago, it was this team's going to get smoked. They don't have their starting quarterback. There's no way they can win. Yeah. And you have Malik Willis making a start. You have just.


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[Assistant] On paper, that game should have been a three touchdown blowout, but the Titans took them to overtime and certainly could have won that game. And so I will say that, and I think I said that after that Chiefs game is that,


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[Assistant] The one thing Vrabel always does, his teams are always prepared. His defense are very disciplined so you trust them against anyone and so it just doesn't feel like the Titans are a team.


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[Assistant] They can really get blown out, even though they get blown out in week two by the bills, uh, but man, there's no reason they can't get the number one seat again this year.


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[Assistant] No, I feel like if any team matches the Nashville personality, it's the Chargers where they have all the fireworks but then crazy stuff always happens like the Bachelorette bus crashing or something with players getting injured.


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[Assistant] Someday we'll have an off-season podcast where we match up teams with our cities.


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[Assistant] I mean, if I had to make a pick on that right now, a lot of it depends on whether Jamar Chase plays.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, I mean, that's trouble. The titans are trouble. That's what it comes down to.


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[Assistant] The thing is though, if the Titans struggle anything right now, it's in their secondary. They struggle a bit with the pass and Aaron Rogers was taking a little bit of advantage of that, but he had an off night and really, which we'll talk about in a little bit. So, you know, if you're going to be able to beat them one way, you can throw the ball at them right now. So I think it'll be an interesting game. Like that's a game that I think will be fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Well the thing is though, these next few games with the bangles and eagles, those are games that titans can absolutely win. I mean, we all, we saw what happened to the eagles on the Monday night game.


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[Assistant] Was you had a team that just ran the ball and kept running the ball and played really good defense. And the Titans are like the commanders on steroids cause they run the ball better and they play defense better. So you know, that's


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[Assistant] That is, Billy, hey man, I'm talking about my own team. The Bengals could lose to the Titans. The Eagles could certainly lose to the Titans because they play the kind of football that the Eagles could struggle with. Uh, but Billy, you know what? There aren't many teams at NFC, uh, that can do that. The Canters probably won't make the playoffs and don't worry about them.


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[Assistant] One part of trusting teams real quick, Brenton, is, is the Bengals-Titans playoff game from last season is a good example where a lot of people were thinking, gosh, if the Titans lose this game, it's going to be because of Ryan Tannehill. And then Ryan Tannehill goes down and throws three interceptions and that plays into the part of not trusting a team.


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[Assistant] And right, they had four more rest days or three more rest days in week two, which is just ridiculous.


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[Assistant] I think what Wilson and I have always said about Tana, we don't think Vrabel doesn't like him. We think Vrabel would upgrade in a second if he had a chance, which is a huge difference.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, Tannehill hasn't had a lot of time to build chemistry and we keep talking about, people have talked all season about Aaron Rodgers and him trying to build his chemistry with his new group of receivers or trying to get things going with Christian Watson.


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[Assistant] Uh, which is, appears to be finally happening after 10 or 11 weeks. And then you look at Robert Woods, the guy had a torn ACL last season. Uh, he was slow in practice, you know, wasn't getting acclimated right away. And now he's in his first season of the new offense and he has looked better every week. He's not AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he has, he has looked better every week and he, you know, he had six catches for 69 yards tonight.


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[Assistant] And then real quick on Traylon Burks is that I think this was only the third or fourth game he has played with Tannehill.


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[Assistant] the Malik Willis games. So, you know, you're talking about a guy who hasn't been on the field a lot with Tana Hill. And so as you know, if he's making, having a 100 yard games, this is Mike Frable, I'm guarantee you loved what happened tonight because he knows what the Titans offense is capable of now with Robert Woods and Traylen Burks both getting more comfortable.


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[Assistant] Uh, did you hear the broadcast? I mean, Kirk Herbstreet said they were talking to, uh, Derek Henry's trainer and that Derek Henry's getting better with age.


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[Assistant] So the good news for the Packers, sorry, Breech, what's up? I got a tight and fun fact before we get to the Packers. Oh boy. Ryan Thinhill averaged 12.3 yards per pass attempt against Green Bay on Thursday night. That is the second highest total by visiting QB in the history of Lambeau Field. Wow. Who's, uh, you guys each get


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[Assistant] I don't want to keep guessing. Let's say 15 and 1 that team won. It is not call pepper so you can take your guess, Princeton.


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[Assistant] Drew Bledsoe? This is from our CBS Sports Stack. Bledsoe was drafted in 2000. Doug Lawson and Wilson, you are gonna hate yourself because you practically nailed the answer. Is it Randall?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, no, you can argue, you can, you can tell that to the public so that he saves face, but Aaron Rodgers not gonna save face for Aaron Rodgers where he's gonna be like,


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[Assistant] You're trying to bench me for Jordan Love, the guy that you drafted, uh, in the first round and traded up to get, the guy who, uh, sent me, made me so angry and I rate that I went out and won two straight MVPs and, uh, no, that's not happening. I, I cannot imagine Rogers would take that well. Although, you know, if you're,


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[Assistant] Once you're eliminated from the playoffs or you get to the back end of the schedule with three or four games left and you have no shot, it's like, why not see what Jordan Love has?


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[Assistant] They have to go 6 and 0 to get to 10 and 7. We've been talking about like 10 is that magic number.


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[Assistant] Until, so once you lose that ninth game and you can't even have a winning record, you think that's where LaForest starts thinking like, ah, maybe we got a bench here and that was their relationship. There is no way. Well, he's thinking that already.


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[Assistant] Right? Right. Cause well, they don't have to pay him any of the guarantee. So it's not going to be as high as the number would be if they cut them. Right. Right. Right. I don't know what the number is.


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[Assistant] Here it is from SpotTrack. They must've, uh, tweeted this out in October. Oh, perfect. Okay. So you must, that's when the Packers started to show us like, uh, Aaron Rodgers might be done. So clearly we've been thinking this for a month and a half now. Long story short.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers contract was structured year to year for retirement purposes. If he retires after the 2022 season, Packers will be left with a $40.3 million dead cap hit.


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[Assistant] Then he's gonna be like, I'm not even retiring, I'm just not showing up and you're taking the 99 million dollar cap in.


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[Assistant] I think they go one on one in those two games. Probably beat the Bears, but I'm not going to say... I think they'll beat the Bears.


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[Assistant] The Packers are 2-0 this season when Rodgers throws 25 passes or less, 2-6 when he throws more than 20.


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[Assistant] Do you want me to throw in Billy's face? Is that what's happening here? No, go ahead. Just give us the top three after Billy's eagles are at number not one. I got the eagles at two. I got the bills at


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[Assistant] Biggest Eagles fan in this podcast who's not actually an Eagles fan.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think when it was 14-14, you have that like underdog draw in the third quarter. It's like, wow, they're hanging with them. They might be able to sneak this out. And I really think that.


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[Assistant] Maybe underestimated the Texans in the sense that they thought they were going to go in there and win.


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[Assistant] 42 to nothing and they got there like, okay, this team's, uh, okay. And oh boy, this guy, Damien Pierce actually can run the ball and find any hole no matter how big it is. Uh,


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[Assistant] We're awesome offensively. I mean, they drove up and down the field. The only reason they didn't score on the fumble drive is because the center snapped at 4J when Hertz was ready. That drive they were, they moved like 50 yards in three plays. They were probably going to score another touchdown. They were already in field goal range. And so if the snap doesn't come early, they probably go up.


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[Assistant] Their defense struggled a little bit in the first half. They often struggle in the second half, but again, short week on the road, prime time. And you know what?


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[Assistant] The end here is that they handed the Texans their second biggest loss of the season. It's a feisty Texas team. So you look at it that way, they gave the Texans one of their biggest beatdowns of the season. It wasn't all bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing happens. If you come out and fall in your face and you're facing a team that takes advantage of it quickly, you know, if the Texans had jumped out to a 21-7 lead, it would have been like, oh crap, like what's going on here? Kind of like, you know, the Browns just pounced on the Bengals. They were shell shocked and it was over.


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[Assistant] And in this game, it felt like, uh, Nick Sirianni, you know.


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[Assistant] Detroit. I think you consider it.


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[Assistant] Well, he was missing his top two receivers and he made a couple really good throws. And yes, he made a boneheaded interception. It was just because it was a stupid decision, not a, and that goes along with getting playing time. Uh, you know, what if they win the next four games?


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[Assistant] I just think the Texans have so many holes in their roster that I want to see where the draft board is when these, I'm saying, all right, here's the quarterback I want. This is what I'm eyeing. But you know, if one of these guys are there, if they're not picking number one, maybe the Lions take a quarterback because they're finally over Jared Goff. I just, there's just so many holes to fix.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't just automatically commit to taking a quarterback, but it's definitely on my radar.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you look at what he did during the preseason. He was one of those guys that got all hyped up. But you know, when you're running back in the preseason, the NFL, it's like, okay, let's hold our horses here because we don't know that's going to translate to the regular season. And then the first game against the Colts, he only rushed for like 30 yards and then the high


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[Assistant] Which, well, everyone was like, what is the Texans coaching staff doing? What's fire lovey Smith? Like, why is the guy that was so good in the preseason not getting any snaps? Uh, and yeah, so we rushed 11 times for 33 yards.


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[Assistant] Against the Colts in week one, and then it was like after watching those clips, the coaching staff was like, okay, this guy definitely has to be in here. And he's just been kind of on a tear since then. He struggled a little bit against the Titans last week.


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[Assistant] But besides that, he's gone for at least 69 yards, uh, in every... He runs hard, he runs...


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[Assistant] And think about how quickly he's getting hit and he still has 678 rush yards on the season after tonight. He's getting hit that bad.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow is Brenton's hair plug appointment. The plugs are falling out right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't think you will because the Texans realized the ugliness of those optics of firing two African American coaches after one season. Uh, David Colley should not have been fired. That team was horrible last year. He got as much out of them as any coach possibly could have.


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[Assistant] Uh, and this year, I feel like they also have, you know, obviously this is not a good team, but you look at their overall schedule. They have, uh, three losses, including last week's to the Titans, three of their six losses have been by one score.


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[Assistant] If, uh, you know, if they lose out or something like that, then maybe you can consider it or, uh, get, you know, only one win the rest of the season. I think he needs to win two or three more games just to justify staying.


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[Assistant] Prince will fly you to Raleigh and take you to an NC State game.


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[Assistant] Uh, so this is a question for Wilson. Of these two teams, which one is more likely to make playoffs?


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily Info Podcast. I'm your host on a football week 11 recap. We starting early at the two minute warning actually, which is unusual for us.


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[Assistant] It's pretty unusual for a team to get beat as bad as the Cardinals did. Uh, last I checked, it was Tracy McSorley throwing to.


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[Assistant] A green surely. Oh God. Poor AJ green. That's AJ green. What a talk about a low point. Ryan Wilson and AJ green's career when he's out there in a week 11 game at garbage time, catching passes with Greg Dorch, uh, from Trace McSorley. That's where we're at the score. We've got 38 10.


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[Assistant] Assuming that Carl Shannon does the honorable thing. It takes knees. There we go. We got knees coming down. It means the games over 38, 10 final 49ers. Roll the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] You know what? This reminds me a little bit, not entirely of, but uh, from this week, Cowboys, Cowboys Vikings, just in terms of like, you get that really like sort of.


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[Assistant] Like late mid to late season statement game from a team and.


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[Assistant] I mean, the 49ers look like a potential dominant force in the interstate, don't they?


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[Assistant] You saw, I assume you saw the clip of him at the Warriors game, right?


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[Assistant] I think all three of the other guys are like, have like notable girlfriends or wives. And so like every two, I think you could see a look at, um.


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[Assistant] Uh, whatever the word is, he was like, yeah, yeah, I know her or yeah. However, he might know her.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so the Niners didn't even run the ball that effec- I mean they did run it, they ran it really effectively. They didn't run it for like a ton of yards.


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[Assistant] That really needed a win at four and six. They're, I think, now they're... Four and seven. Now they are.


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[Assistant] They're now four and seven, excuse me. Yes, that's correct. Uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] The 49ers, by the way, now the three seed in the NFC, uh, just two games back of the Minnesota Vikings, three games back of the Philadelphia Eagles. Um, where, if you were in, uh, in, uh, I guess one game up with the Buccaneers, of course you have Dallas, New York and Seattle at the current wildcard teams with


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[Assistant] Washington knocking on the door. If you were going to rank the hierarchy of the top three NFC teams, how would you rank this?


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[Assistant] That's, I think that's pretty reasonable. Um, I would, if, if one were so inclined, I think you could make the case that the 49ers are the best team in the NFC and I wouldn't be upset with that.


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[Assistant] Um, or, you know, someone else listening to this podcast might be like, but I mean, look, the eagles are still nine and one.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jeffrey Benson of Circus Sports. Hey, John Breach. John Breach joining us on the podcast. Jeffrey Benson tweeted, he's one of the sports book guys at Circus Sports in Vegas. The San Francisco 49ers would be favored on a neutral versus either the Eagles or the Cowboys. They're the third highest power rated team in football for the first Circus Sports book. Now, that is my...


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[Assistant] Okay, well you would be giving up a lot of CLV. Uhm, I think he basically has, they're basically, what Circus Sports is saying with that comment is the 49ers are the best to them, the highest rated team in the NFC and the Paradise


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just saying like, I think that to you, to anyone who's listening that or watching on youtube, youtube.com slash pick six. Um.


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[Assistant] Subscribe rate review, like all that business that basically the 49ers in the eyes of the bookmakers are one of the most talented, the third most talented team across the board in football and would probably be number one. If you flip them, obviously with the quarterback for the chiefs of the bills.


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[Assistant] Or even the Cowboys, maybe even the Eagles. But Jimmy G's been playing well, John Breach.


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[Assistant] Unquestionably over the course of the entire season so far, they're, they're the, they're the better team. But I think if you're just taking sort of a rolling four week period.


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[Assistant] That you would take the 49ers over the Eagles and that is part of the equation because you know, when you're talking about getting to the playoffs, you want the, you want your team to be playing well, you know, and I'm not saying that Philly can't be playing well or that Dallas can't take Dallas is playing really well right now too. I think that, you know, the, the recency bias is.


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[Assistant] You have to be careful with it, but it is okay to take into account for recent performance because that does, in my opinion, if you have a


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[Assistant] Reasonable sample size does provide, you know, possible future information. Like look at these, these last three wins.


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[Assistant] You know, Jimmy laid an absolute turd against the Falcons. They lose the KC and they're ashamed of losing the KC.


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[Assistant] The last three weeks and again, the Rams was really struggling. The Chargers are the Chargers and they were off a buy and then the Cardinals are the Cardinals, but.


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[Assistant] The offense and Jimmy G have, Jimmy G looks like he's, he looks like a guy who didn't practice with this team the entire off season.


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[Assistant] Didn't expect to play, thought he would get traded, came in early, like in the middle of week two and sort of took about a couple of weeks to really get the rapport down. And Kyle Shanahan adjusted the playbook and now they are really rolling. And I think, I mean that that's important to me in terms of how I'm rating teams at a certain like I'm going to adjust how I feel about a team.


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[Assistant] Based on how they're playing at the moment, I'm not going to hold onto the, you know.


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[Assistant] Niners would probably be like a one and a half point to two and a half point favorite max over the eagle. So everywhere we are sort of, uh, picking, picking, picking nits here, if you will. Is that a thing? Can you pick nits? Yeah.


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[Assistant] No matter what you do in January, you're like, well, that justifies the Trailance trade, since he did absolutely nothing to help us get here. You know what I'm saying? Like, as it turns out, they just shouldn't have done the Trailance trade.


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[Assistant] It was a lot to give up. They had Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] He doesn't have the ceiling, obviously, of a, of a tree lance, but I mean, clear, like, and it's, it's, it's, it's just, it's a really hard trade to judge because it's unfair to judge tree lance on these injuries.


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[Assistant] So, let's look at the ESG playoff picture as a whole. Arizona falls to the 11th seed.


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[Assistant] Yep, we're all one. Uh, they are 12th at four and seven. Excuse me. I was wondering, I was like, didn't we realize they were not that. Um, let me ask you this. So, uh, I was on Darren Smith's show on Monday afternoon and he asked me,


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[Assistant] How many teams? They had somebody text in and say 12 teams could win the Super Bowl. You said something crazy like that. We're in HQ. I was like, what is he smoking? Go ahead. I'm wondering how many teams you think can win the Super Bowl in the NFC?


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[Assistant] Because I, I do think, or how many teams, maybe it's maybe a better question is how many teams can get to the Super Bowl, because...


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[Assistant] So if I get the next two picks. This is not a draft. We're not, we're not, we're not playing for anything. We're just naming it and the first person to say, no, I want out. That's where we stopped the list. Okay. But I still get


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[Assistant] Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to take the tape of a Buccaneers and the reason why very quickly is that.


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[Assistant] They're going to win that division because the rest of the division is not very good and they have Tom Brady and to get to the Super Bowl means they have to win.


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[Assistant] Probably three games in the playoffs with Tom Brady, which I know they haven't looked great this season. They're five and five. But if Tom Brady needs to win three games to get the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] He's capable of getting to the Super Bowl. So table of A, I will go with uh, Wilson.


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[Assistant] What was that? 14? I said, I mean, breach, would you, would you go with Minnesota? I think, I think you make the case for Seattle.


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[Assistant] Wait, someone said pre-set Minnesota, right? You said win the Super Bowl, right? Then I said make it to the Super Bowl. Win the NFC.


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[Assistant] Would you, would you add either any of the giant Seattle or Washington? I think I would take Seattle in there. I think that's, look, you have to have things go your way, but there's a lot of, there's so much parity.


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[Assistant] I mean, I just, I just think, look, you look at this, look at, look at who's in, look at who's the top seven in the playoffs. You're telling me Seattle couldn't beat the Vikings.


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[Assistant] And then hope for an upset and then maybe steal one.


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[Assistant] You said, you said 12. I think 6 is the max for me at the end of C. That's a lie.


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[Assistant] But it's not good. I think this does come back to our apparently differing philosophies on the playoffs and how you approach the playoffs in that the playoffs are like, there's a lot of luck involved with the NFL playoffs. It's not like a series. It's not like a baseball or basketball series of, you know, five and then seven games.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying that there's a high level of variance in the NFL playoffs.


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[Assistant] And that with the way that the NFC is set up, it does feel like.


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[Assistant] If you're looking at the AFC, you think there's, you feel pretty confident that one of two teams is going to get out of there. Now, of course, something weird can happen. We saw the Bengals get there last year. I'm just saying that.


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[Assistant] You know, this NFC playoff picture to me.


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[Assistant] Looks like it could have various out like, that's why I think Tampa Bay, you cannot rule out Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, I will ask you, uh, what I think is a fairly intriguing question about week 11 of the NFL season. Next.


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[Assistant] And so much just complete randomness. The Jets are winning a lot. The Giants are winning a lot. You know, the bills are pooping their pants against the vice. Just so much insanity that if we got when we got any really impressive performances and the three that stand out to me are the Titans in Green Bay, Dallas in Minnesota, and then San Francisco tonight in Mexico.


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[Assistant] It's been like every, it's been the most, the most one score games in NFL history through 10 weeks.


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[Assistant] Right, but is it possible that these dominant performances this late in the season, we're trying to latch on to a team that can get hot down the stretch and


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[Assistant] And to look really good. I mean, I do think the diners are really good. I do think the cowboys are really good.


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[Assistant] He, he, he, he, he turns Jimmy G into an elite point guard who distributes them all well.


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[Assistant] If, if the playoffs started today, let's run through this real quick. We'll do this. We'll start with Ryan, then Breach. We take a match up and pick it, and then we'll move on to the next round and just see where we go. Ryan Seahawks at Vikings.


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[Assistant] You may not ask whether or not it's a 1pm game. It's just Seahawks and Vikings. You have to take your chances on Kirk Cousins possibly. That screams Saturday at 1pm, but.


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[Assistant] Okay, so Seahawks Advanced Breach, you get Giants at 49ers.


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[Assistant] Alright, and I get Cowboys and Buccaneers. I'm going to take the Buccaneers to advance in that game.


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[Assistant] I don't think that's insane to suggest that the Buccaneers run defense against the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy against Tom Brady could end up going the Buccaneers way. So just in this hypothetical, that's how we're playing it out. That's how it works.


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[Assistant] Playing the, by the way, the boxer of the home team. So actually they might be favorited that game. Interesting to see that line.


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[Assistant] So the Seahawks would be the lowest seed to Eagle Seahawks at Eagles for you, Wilson.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm going to have to take Philadelphia there. Okay. And then breach you get.


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[Assistant] Uh, Bucks, Bucks at Niners, Tom Brady against, in, in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] It'll be determined by whose offensive line and whose defensive line is the healthiest.


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[Assistant] The Eagles, the Eagles would probably be favored by one at home. Maybe two, maybe two, two and a half. Nothing huge.


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[Assistant] It's a lie. The eagles are bad against the run and that's what the 49ers do best.


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[Assistant] Maybe the larger point is that we had what? Seahawks, Eagles, and 49ers, Buccaneers, or slash Cowboys.


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[Assistant] All just two, I mean, it's just, you can, this NFC playoffs are going to be fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Wow. By the way, this is kind of interesting. Uh, at view from Vegas, Dave Tully, uh, points out that with the, uh, the overheating and the Niners covering minus nine and a half in this game or minus 10, whatever you want the first time this season that the overs finished above 500 in a week.


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[Assistant] Which is kind of interesting to note. Unders have been killing it. And, um, the, uh, favorites went 11 and three straight up and eight and six against the spread in week 11.


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[Assistant] We're gonna move on to the cardinals and we're gonna do two and a half minutes on them and be done in 30 minutes.


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[Assistant] So that's, that was basically the question that I was going to ask about the Cardinals too, which is does Colt McCoy's


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[Assistant] Does Kyler Murray's injury and Colt McCoy's performance, which I thought Colt was fine tonight too, and he just, look man, he's Colt McCoy, that defense was nasty. He wasn't fine though.


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[Assistant] I was like, ah, this would stink for somebody who wants the 49ers to win this game and win by more than X amount. And I felt very little concerned about how this.


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[Assistant] And I think now they're like 31% winning percentage in the, whatever the, I don't know if it's the actual second half, but they flashed it on the Monday night telecast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like Kingsbury, but it happened to Texas Tech. He collapsed in the second half of the season, collapses in Arizona in the second half of the season. They didn't score a point here. I think to your second question, I would guess that based on and again, like,


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[Assistant] I would guess that based on the market he's in, where there's not like, it's not New York, there's not a ton of pressure, based on the frugality of ownership in Arizona, based on the fact that the contract for Kyler is tied to Cliff's contract, which is tied to Steve Keim's contract, and they're all tied. What do you mean they're tied? They all signed them in the same off season. They're all linked, they're all linked together. They're, you're basically saying these


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[Assistant] A situation where somebody has to get fired, then I think Cliff is the first one to go.


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[Assistant] I just, I just don't think, I think, just like the Raiders won't fire me dangerous, I don't think the Cardinals will fire.


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[Assistant] To continue to be the head coach in a vacuum. I'm just saying that I think with the circumstances of the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] And how they operate and cliff's new contract. I would be surprised if he's fired. Having said that, when you look at, well, no, you look, I mean, if they, you know, they've lost now. Oh boy. Okay. They lost. They lost. Maybe they've lost.


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[Assistant] Loss loss. You just talked about how they don't win football games in November, December. Why? I didn't say there were going to be wins. I'm saying like, what, what, what do you think they're four and seven?


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[Assistant] What record gets Cliff Kingsbury fired? Let's assume that Kyler Murray plays half of these games.


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[Assistant] Does seven to eleven, does seven to ten get him fired? Should. Does it or does it? I mean, we're not asking should it, does it? I would. I do not. I would too, but I don't think it does.


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[Assistant] I think I would start to agree with five words because if you go one and five the rest of the way out with whatever I say there's


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[Assistant] Oh, there's three home games, three away games. The final two games are away, which look, I know this stuff shouldn't matter, but it does.


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[Assistant] When you have like a completely empty stadium and you get humiliated on, you know, on, you know, in your home building, it matters more, it feels like.


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[Assistant] So these next two games are massive for them against the Chargers and the Patriots. Like if they win those two games, I don't think there's a chance Cliff gets fired.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm sure that's, yeah, that's actually an interesting point because I would, if I had to hypothesize, I would assume that cliff didn't, um.


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[Assistant] Have, you know, that he didn't have some high intensity training at altitude. But anyway, years at home at the Falcons and at the 49ers to close out of week 18. All right, show me three wins on that schedule. I think you split with the Chargers and the Patriots potentially.


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[Assistant] I'll give you one of those. Go ahead. I think you split with the Broncos and the Falcons. Okay. I mean come on.


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[Assistant] That's two. And then you gotta cross your fingers and hope the 49ers cleanse the division and they're seeded for week 18.


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[Assistant] The bid wells are not going to sign the GM, the coach and the quarterback to all season contracts at the same time and then dump them all the following off season. Like I understand what you're saying. It's not feasible though financially, nor is it feasible to just cut a guy you drafted number one overall.


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[Assistant] And two other guys you just gave extensions to like three months ago. It's just, you just don't see it in the NFL.


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[Assistant] How much do you think Michael, uh, NFL, what's the deal? Where does, uh, Bidwell rank on the richest editors?


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. That's sort of, that's sort of my point is that like.


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[Assistant] You know, when you're in this billionaire's club and you're rich, but you're not...


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[Assistant] You just don't set that kind of money on fire. That's why Mark Davis is not firing Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] Alright, that's it. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For Breach, for Wilson, I'm Branson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Two weeks in a row, we all had winning records. That's right.


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[Assistant] Speaking of uhm. They were in the red zone like eight times, weren't they?


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[Assistant] Oh, here we go. Well, you didn't take it though. The Revenge Parley must be over.


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[Assistant] This is a matter of, uh, I couldn't get a feel for this game. I had a hard time with this game. It's basically the Jets defense. Can they stop the Vikings offense? And Jets defense is really good. Don't get me wrong. I love what they're building there.


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[Assistant] I just can't take Mike White a second time. I gotta see backup quarterbacks one more time.


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[Assistant] He doesn't make mistakes. Zach Wilson tries to be a hero. That's why Mike White's playing. And that's probably why Mike White's gonna play as long as they're in the playoff on. And should.


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[Assistant] Isn't his nickname BAM by the way? Isn't he BAM Night?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I almost made this a best bet. In fact, I think I might add it in, but I love this game for the Falcons because it sets up poorly for Pittsburgh. I added a best bet in last week and it went rotten. So I'll try it again. What the hell? I'll take the Falcons. Here's why. The Steelers short week.


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[Assistant] On the road back to back weeks, tough to prepare for the Falcons in a short week.


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[Assistant] You know, it really is. They're a hard offense to prepare for. They're not a great offense. They're offensive lines playing pretty well. I'm going to take, add the Falcons in is one of the best bet for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, and teams do start preparing on a short week. You start preparing the week before for the next opponent. So there's some preparation, but it is, it's still tougher to prepare for.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think the commanders are going to start this week because I think they're the better team. I think their defense is, is improved a lot.


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[Assistant] You know, what's the status of Chase Young? Have they decided that yet? There's a chance he's gonna play this week.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'll be curious to see if he does, but even without him, the edge rushers have been really good. The inside guys, we know they're good. Jameid Davis has elevated his game. The corners have been better and the Giants offense isn't very good. They're getting guys back on the line, which, which could impact this game a little bit.


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[Assistant] But I'm going to go with the team I think is the better team. I think Washington right now is the better team. I'm going to take the commanders as a best bet.


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[Assistant] I will never back down from anything I say, ever. I might be wrong. I might admit I'm wrong, but I'm not backing down from it. Give me a break. Come on, Pellisaro. Russell Wilson stinks this year. Period. You know why? Because he can't move anymore.


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[Assistant] Their line is terrible and he can't move. He doesn't even try to move. It's a bad, it used to be dynamic.


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[Assistant] This should be a cautionary tale across the field for Lamar Jackson, okay? Look across the field. What happens when you can't move anymore? You gotta be able to throw in a pocket. Uh, I think, I think


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[Assistant] I think the Ravens defensive play well here. Lamar Jackson had many opportunities to hit shots last week and missed them. He had guys open. He doesn't look right and I know he's on the injury report again.


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[Assistant] With something else this week was a hip last week and now it's whatever. He just doesn't look right. He doesn't look all the way back, but I'm taking the Ravens is the first part of my teaser.


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[Assistant] I think Jacksonville's, you know, look, ETN is dinged up a little bit, uhm, but I think on this track, the way Trevor Lawrence played last week, that was the moment. You're here, buddy, and he believes it now.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think this game gets loose, so I'm gonna take over 51 and a half as one of my best bets.


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[Assistant] He's had a great November. That was the moment, by the way.


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[Assistant] Against the Chiefs and I think they, they, they're going to hang around in the game. It wouldn't shock me to see them win the game. I think the Chiefs will win it, but it's really close. I mean, it's going to be a one point game, two point game. Uh, but you're going to tease that up to get eight. I'm taking it. So I'll close out my other.


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[Assistant] What's their schedule the next, down the stretch?


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[Assistant] If you had these two guys on the open market, Barclay and Jacobs, which one are you paying?


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[Assistant] The Cowboys might get 16 sacks in this game. Their offensive line is awful. And it really, you know, Brayden Smith actually did a pretty good job on T.J. Watt the other night, but the rest of that line stinks and it's going to be a problem across the board. I think the Cowboys minus 10 and a half is going to cover. I didn't make it a best bet, but I could see where somebody would.


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[Assistant] Little stinky. So I mean, I'm going to take the Saints because I think it'll be a field goal game and their defense actually played well last week against 49ers. They don't make mistakes in that game. They might win that game. I mean, they're on, what was Alvin Kamara doing on the goal line? I mean, what the heck was that? And, and so I think they'll hang around in the game. I'll take the field goal in the Saints.


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[Assistant] Should they shut down Aaron Rodgers? No. As long as he's healthy and he wants to play and they're still alive, play him.


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[Assistant] We're back Aaron Rodgers. What about the Jets quarterback? You can't really trade him. What? Yeaah, they can't trade him.


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[Assistant] Correct. It's not the other way around. Uh, but the Texans are so bad.


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[Assistant] Uh, Cleveland's not good either. I mean, they won that game last week and uh, somehow, some way. But the Texans are so bad, I'd lean to the Browns, but who knows what he's gonna, he hasn't played in two years, who knows how he's gonna play.


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[Assistant] By the way, the next three weeks, the next three weeks, at Nyers, at Chargers, at Gills, if the Dolphins won all three and two have played really, really well and put up big numbers, he might be the MVP.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's one through five now. What? Yeah, it's not just one vote.


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[Assistant] It's amazing that he's in the conversation. Let's put that out there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Rams are terrible, don't get me wrong, but the number, I'm not taking them as the best bet, but the number's too big.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what, it better be like a little travel checkers for it cause that little ass tree, that thing looks like it's probably a little bit taller than you and that's it.


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[Assistant] Take on the US men's soccer team is that not a huge fan of the coach. He is the Matt Canada of soccer coaches, but I love the players and I want them to have success. And, um, I don't know what that means in terms of getting out of the group is going to be a tough group, but I can't wait. Like old Bart Scott says, breach.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't think it's, I think it will happen. I think Justin Herbert's awesome. And I know people in that building think he's as good as Patrick Mahomes. And at times he flashes that. The difference is that when Patrick Mahomes doesn't have his playmakers, it matters exactly zero.


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[Assistant] And we saw the Chargers struggle with a ton of injuries, both along the offensive line and then with their school position players, Keenan Allen and Michael Williams. Michael Williams came back tonight for a handful of plays, made that great catch along the sidelines, re-injured his ankle, he was done. Keenan Allen had a fumble, after that he had that huge third and 18 conversion, uh, that looked like it was gonna set up the game winning score.


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[Assistant] So I, I just feel like if this team was playing in another city, they wouldn't have the, they're sort of the, you know, to keep the...


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[Assistant] To keep the right, to keep the, the football analogy going, they're basically Tottenham. They're the Tottenham of the NFL. They find ways to, to charge her at the worst possible moments.


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[Assistant] Breach, I guess the question for you is, how many seconds can you leave Patrick home to Travis Kelsey? Is it north of zero?


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[Assistant] I was just going to follow up on the fourth and inches there. So the chargers are up 20 to 16.


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[Assistant] And I put on my encyclopedia brown, uh, what's that Sherlock Holmes hat call where there's a bill in the front and the back? I put that thing on and said, this doesn't make sense because we've been talking about the whole entire year, but I found something interesting, Breach. And we'll see, I'm going to test your special teams knowledge and just see how much, how really.


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[Assistant] One of the worst punters in terms of hang time and distance last year in the NFL, they thought, oh, maybe that explains some of the decisions that go from the fourth down. Who's the punter this year?


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[Assistant] So JK Scott, he had a hang time on a punt, actually the punt on that fourth and inches, the subsequent play, 5.1 seconds, which I learned and you know this breach is insane. Like that is the far end of the bell curve in terms of, uh, unlikely to happen. And he does that consistently. He hit a 51 yarder on that punt too, I believe.


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[Assistant] 52 yarder, excuse me. So it switched the field position to your point. It didn't matter, but I wonder if upgrading the punt position.


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[Assistant] To such a degree, maybe has something to do with it. Turns out the Chargers also suck at running the ball. Now fourth and inches, you just sneak it with, with Justin Herbert. There's no excuse there, but in general, but I just wanted to ask you generally speaking, if you have a guy that has five second hang time and he kicks at 50 yards, does that affect your decision to go for on these third downs or fourth downs? Excuse me.


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[Assistant] Ben Ball, in his fourth down by, said go for it strong on that fourth and inches that Breach mentioned too. It increases your winning percentage by 4.1%. So I guess if old Brandon Steele had a time machine, he would in fact go for it.


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[Assistant] The only other thing I'll say and we can, we'll circle back to this in the Bills game, but the Bills are probably kicking themselves like up and down.


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[Assistant] Uh, whatever the main street is in Buffalo because they lose to the Vikings last week in that terrible way. They lose the week before to the terrible just team, it turns out. And now the chiefs are atop the division or the conference, excuse me. And it appears to be clear sailing breach. I, you probably know this, but I think Joe Musso mentioned on ASQ their strength of schedule, uh, down the stretch here is.


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[Assistant] Easy peasy. And oh, by the way, they've won 24 straight games in November, December, which I think is pretty good. Uhm, so that's great news if you're the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Frustrating news if you're the Bills and let those games get away from you. And also frustrating if you're the Chargers because if you win this game that you should have won, you're only one game back of the Chiefs of the Division. Now it's five and five and eight and two or whatever it is. And it feels like that's a wrap.


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[Assistant] I want to say quickly before we move on, I, I'm not the only team that can catch the Chiefs, Tennessee Titans. I'm done sleeping with the Titans. I trust Mike Freibolt. They did it last year. They were 12 and five. Um, they could do it again. No one else. Miami hasn't been there. Baltimore looked a little shaky today. Buffalo, who knows who's going to show up and you know, the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Says you, you don't even know what the shoulder injury is. He just shouldn't play.


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[Assistant] Okay, fair enough. I mean, Safety Sam says he's gonna play. We'll see what happens. I mean, I don't know what the injury is, so uhm, we'll see, but here's how I think about it. This is a three-win team, as you mentioned, and the Bears have every reason to be ecstatic about Justin Fields. My team, the Steelers, are a three-win team. Can he pick it?


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[Assistant] That's all I'm gonna say, and I'll just say this, Breach. The Bears came into this game, having lost three-


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[Assistant] Okay, I mean, he's in the second year, he needs to play. If he's healthy, I'm sure he'll play. But if he's not healthy, he shouldn't play. I agree with that. But, uh, Breach to me, it seems like the bigger issue is the defense and also I think credit to Luke Getzey for figuring out how to use his quarterback after the first month of the season when a lot of times these OCs just continue to put the square peg round hole thing and it never works out.


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[Assistant] I think you had two catches for 11 yards today. Uh, this says a couple things to me. One, it feels like it puts a lot of pressure on Eber Fluss and the new GM.


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[Assistant] You traded away the guys that would help you win right now with the understanding that Quinn and, and Roquan probably weren't going to be back. So you get the draft capital. I get all that. But if you sort of had this sort of record next year around this time, that's a problem. And you mentioned the shoulder injury for Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] Potentially the bigger issue is the knee injury that we're going to find out about with Kyle Pitts. I was just watching the replay. That's when I made that crazy face a moment ago when Breach was talking, not just because he was saying silly stuff. It does not look great. I don't know what it, the, there haven't been any updates on it. Arthur Smith didn't have any updates when the game was over, but it's not.


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[Assistant] A fun looking injury, so hopefully Kalpits is okay, but if not, he will be out for some time too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they need wide receivers. I mean, there's no, no, no, no.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's been there for 3 weeks. Like, is he supposed to have like 10 catches for 100 yards every week, 3 weeks until the new offense?


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[Assistant] He didn't complain about the elbow, so I'm going to assume that it's fine. The other issue is they got six feet of snow in Buffalo. They struggled to get out of town Saturday evening.


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[Assistant] Uh, to get to Detroit and maybe that had something to do with it. I wouldn't say that Stefan and Sean were arguing. Sean was talking to Stefan and he seemed unhappy and he, you mentioned he got that catch with about five minutes ago in the second quarter and the first catch he had the whole game was a touchdown. I think he probably felt much better after that. Um, but this team is not.


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[Assistant] As consistent as Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. And that's not breaking news. That's just the reality of playing in the AFC. And even though the Bills looked unbeatable over the first, you know, four to six weeks of the season.


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[Assistant] Maybe the fact that they beat the crap out of the Steelers doesn't mean as much as we thought it did at the time because it turns out the Steelers are an absolutely terrible football team. But you mentioned the running game. James Cook finally got going, hit 86 rushing yards at every 7.8 yards per carry. That's the James Cook they were hoping to see when they drafted him. Uhm, and I think


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[Assistant] It's just a matter of sort of getting back in form.


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[Assistant] The Josh Allen before the elbow entry, because I think at the end of the day, that's sort of the difference. Now, the Bills have had injuries on defense and they struggle to stop the run for most, most of the season and, um, Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] We're actually running the ball pretty well early on, but when you look at the final line, you're like, wait, what? Cause I watched this entire game. Nick Chubb had 14 carries for 19 yards. I swear to God, I thought he had more than that on the first two series and Kareem Hunt had, uh, only five carries for 32 yards. And again, it felt like they were running the ball more and that may have been a function of the first half.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then the changes, how the score changed in the second half when the Bills finally get up, because they were down 10-3 in the second quarter. The Browns are leading. And for me, Breach, for the Browns, it feels like this is a team that's about four or five plays away every single game. There are about four or five of those plays in this game. And they end up getting the doors blown off, even though they ended up losing by only eight.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I actually noted four plays that if they'd gone the Browns way, they would have won that game. And these are plays that any team should be able to make. You mentioned the, the muff snap. I mean, that's just unacceptable. Um, they always have success on fourth down, which Kobe were set, uh, running the sneak on fourth and two. He got stuff, never happens. He got stuff.


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[Assistant] Knox, uhm, uh, what's Knox's last name?


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[Assistant] But he actually ju- his butt had just hit the ground. That's a play, uh, six inches another way to get the football back. Uh, and then finally Harrison Bryant missed the touchdown in the back of the end zone late in the third quarter. They hit him in both hands. Was it a tough catch? Yes, but it should have been a touchdown. It was 22 to 10 at the time. And those-


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[Assistant] Those are things that good teams make and win football games. And those are plays that bad teams don't make and they lose. Um, and those losses pile up because this happens, it feels like every single week for the Browns.


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[Assistant] I'm not a mathematician, but if he doesn't play at all this year, that means he hasn't played three years, which that's, that doesn't make any sense at all. And if he gets injured, unless like one of his limbs fall off, he'll be ready to go.


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[Assistant] By next September. So, uh, I mean, they knew that when they traded for him. I mean, you can't say you might get hurt again. I can't play you. So I think, you know, if you want them to get some reps, some in game reps, he played a couple.


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[Assistant] I don't think that's going to matter one way or another when he comes back after an otherwise two year layoff. So I think you play him, doesn't it? And here's the thing. It's like garbage time in a sense, cause they're out of it, but the starters will still be playing. It's not like there's a bunch of fourth stringers out there and he's just getting crushed like he's, uh, you know, Zach, Zach Wilson back there.


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[Assistant] No, but I mean, what's the point of giving up all that stuff for him and then have him sit on the bench? I mean, that, that doesn't even, that doesn't add up.


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[Assistant] I'm after Taylor Heinecke. I'm glad that they're winning football games. I like Ron Rivera. Uhm, Dan Snyder sucks. But, whatever. Hopefully he sells the team. They've won, uhm,


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[Assistant] Let's see, four, five of the last six. Those ones that come at Chicago, Green Bay, at Andy, uh, right before Frank Wright got canned, I believe, uh, they lost to Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Yep, Minnesota and then at Philly. And again, we will all remember until our dying breath, uh, how awesome that was on Monday night. And then of course they just beat a terrible, terrible, terrible.


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[Assistant] Houston team. So yeaah, look man, you can only play the team on your schedule. Heinecke has been a shot in the arm. He's basically, as Brent said last week, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and you're going to get some magic and get some tragic, and we see that too. Mike Clay of ESPN.


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[Assistant] When it's gonna be in Heineken, turns out they answer zero. Uhm, Ron Rivera also said,


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[Assistant] That's why Debo left. He didn't leave this podcast because of you. He left because he didn't want to face that take. Uhm, and I understand it. By the way, Breech, Ron Rivera said this is Heineken's job the rest of the way out.


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[Assistant] If Wentz was making minimum wage, I would not play him. It doesn't matter. Like it, it just makes it, there's no reason to put him out there. And the frustrating thing for me, I feel bad for Carson Wentz legitimately. Um, the bad, the thing for me is why do teams keep trading for this guy when he, as Denny Green told us before the podcast, he's exactly who he thought he was. And that's again.


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[Assistant] I would take Bryce Young and a heartbeat. And then I would use my next second round, next first round pick, uh, which they got from the Browns as it turns out on an offensive lineman. And then


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[Assistant] Go from there, because you need a quarterback. Bryce Young is tiny, tiny, tiny. Talk to people in Alabama that say he's 5'10", 185. So he's basically two inches shorter than Breach.


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[Assistant] Did I tell you this not so fun fact about quarterbacks who are that size that have been drafted in the last 20 years that I've mentioned to you guys?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, your size. When you're dreaming. When you comb your hair up like Chevy Chase did in Fletch with the Afro. Uhm, so here's the deal.


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[Assistant] Fourth round pick, Joe Hamilton, seventh round pick. That's it. No one else. So.


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[Assistant] That's the, he's gonna be precedent setting, Bryce Young is, but he's, he's good. I would take him number one overall. He's, he's uh,


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[Assistant] Well, here's what makes it worse. I mean, what was the ramps? Was that the jail and ramps?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's fine. So three of these picks are, are for quarterbacks. Russ Wilson, Matthew Stafford, uh, and then Deshaun Watson. The 10th pick, which the Saints gave up to the Eagles, that's for Trevor Penning, an offensive tackle who's been injured this year. So.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, after the, after the game, during this post-game press conference, Siriano said, I love Frank Reich. He's one of the best damn football coaches I've ever been around. You don't want to know what I think if he should be there, uh, be here or not. You guys can probably imagine what I really think.


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[Assistant] So, Billy, put that, uh, put that image, the video in, I just put it in. I'm putting it up there. Oh, okay. Uh, here he is flapping his gums at the, at the Colts fans, uh, after the game.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't care that he didn't shake Jeff Saturday's hand if that's in fact what didn't happen. He doesn't have to shake his hand. Bill Belichick made a career out of not shaking people's hands.


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[Assistant] So Breach, I mentioned this when Jeff Saturday got hired and


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[Assistant] Tell me what you think about my theory of maybe he is the right man for the job because he doesn't over complicate things. He's just a guy out there being a cheerleader and you know, occasionally weighing in on stuff.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. On Monday night? The wins over Wilson spread in that game is minus three and a half Indianapolis. Bang the cults.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, look, I would say it's crazy, uh, as a, uh, whatever crazy is, but, um, the man, I mean, he hired Tony Dungy.


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[Assistant] He obviously had, uh, my guide that you just mentioned there, Jim Caldwell. So it's not like he doesn't have a history of hiring black guys.


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[Assistant] Uh, meanwhile, I just want to mention quickly, Clarence in the comments, who's been with us way too long. I mean, this guy's in basically, uh, he's like the, uh, I'm trying to think, he's in the relationship where he-


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[Assistant] Yes, thank you. That's what it actually is. But he asked, can we talk about the game and not the coaching sideshow? So, uh, tell us something good, Bree Chander, Brinson, uh, about the Colts and Brinson, you sort of touched on their ability to win some football games coming up, but anything that stuck out in this game in particular.


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[Assistant] Dang, Billy, I had that fun fact I was about to ask you. You could have looked smarter to answer that. The only thing I have concerning about the Eagles is that the last three games have not been Eagles like football, like the previous eight weeks. I mean, they stopped the Steelers 35 13 and we gate then the Texans game. That was, that was tough sledding.


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[Assistant] Uh, the commander's game, they obviously lost and then the Colts game, they, they eked out a win on the road. So, uh, next week, Green Bay.


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[Assistant] I feel like that's a whooping coming green base way. We'll see. But again, if it's another tight game, you got to start to feel like, okay, are these the Vikings, a team that wins a bunch of one score games? And then, uh, what happens when, uh, you know, we get to January.


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[Assistant] He should feel that way. Joe Burrow, it's funny. I agree. Some people thought Kenny Pickett was going to be some version of Joe Burrow. I never thought that and I got confirmation again on Sunday afternoon. And look, you can say that he's a rookie and all that other crap. It doesn't matter. He's 24 years old. Um, and Joe Burrow at no point played like this.


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[Assistant] Because Joe Burrow is a legit first overall pick. But I'll ask you this, Breach. Coming into this game, Joe Burrow had thrown, uhm, let's see.


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[Assistant] Fifth career game against Pittsburgh is from our buddy Brian Diarda who goes to a lot of the Steelers games and covers some CBS sports. Uh, Burrow had thrown just two picks and 16 touchdowns since throwing four versus the Steelers back in week one.


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[Assistant] Cincinnati hadn't won an AFC North game coming in this year as well.


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[Assistant] Thanks to the Steelers for fixing both those things. Do you think that the only player


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[Assistant] In the Steelers locker room that Joe Burrows worried about is TJ White.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he mentioned potential. T. Higgins had 9 catches, 148. All 9 of those catches were contested catches. Uhm, so, the thing is, the coverage, someone in the comments asked if the seat was going to play Mann for the rest of their life against Joe Perero.


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[Assistant] They need better athletes at cornerback, but it wasn't like T Higgins was running wide ass open. Like he made a ton of tough catches. And you talk about the athletes on the team, Joe Mixon left with, I think what was concussion. So he didn't finish the game. The second leading receiver on that team was Samaj P Ryan who had four catches, 50 yards and three freaking touchdowns. I think the Steelers have seven touchdowns all season from their wide receivers. So, um,


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[Assistant] Peter on step right in. He is a no way shape or form Joe mix in terms of athleticism, but he just runs people over and he's an asset in the passing game. And then Trent freaking Irwin had a touchdown breach against first board of the season. Not an athlete, but he got open. Again, he wasn't, it was a contested catch. Great catch by him. Great throw by Joe Burrow in the back of the end zone.


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[Assistant] But that's what good teams do. Meanwhile, you have Kenny Pickett throwing all sorts of craziness up there to the point where I again had the thought, man, I wouldn't mind seeing Mr. Biskey in there. Uh, and this team's going to have a top 10 pick.


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[Assistant] And they're gonna, they probably won't think about it, but they're good. They should have a conversation about drafting a quarterback. They probably won't do it and they'll stick it with Kenny Pick because that's what teams do. They compound the issue and then three years from now.


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[Assistant] We'll be wondering, uh, who's gonna be replacing Katie Pickett off the old Scrappy.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, cause guess what, Andy Dalton's not throwing the football. Need the dunk, need the dunk right there, Breach.


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[Assistant] I will say this though, George Pickens might be the best player in football.


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[Assistant] Why w- are you serious? Why would he be on that list? He just took him to the first round, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've been optimistic about him, but I didn't say he was good. He's a rookie that completed some passes, but he's had a tough season. And there's, like I just said a moment ago, at no point in his rookie season did he look anything like Joe Burrow ever did. And Joe Burrow struggled as a rookie at times.


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[Assistant] It's not terrible roster. I don't imagine him going anywhere. I mean, he's been there since 07, he has one losing season and he quits. That would be, that would be quite the look. He said before the season that he sort of embraces the idea of trying to win without Ben Roethlisberger. I would imagine Bill Belchuk probably said the thing about Tom Brady and probably wishes he'd get a time machine and go back and keep Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] That's right, iron sharpens iron. If you're keeping Kenny Pickett, you use that top ten pick on offensive lineman, or you draft someone like Jalen Carter, defensive tackle, or you get an edge rusher like Will Anderson, if those guys are available, and you're gonna have two second round picks, because thank God, Chase Young, that the Bears were duped into that. So you build around Kenny Pickett, and I think,


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[Assistant] First of all, Kenny Pickett might actually end up being Joe Burrow, but I guarantee if Matt Canada was calling place for Joe Burrow, he would look like Kenny Pickett. That's my point. So, you know.


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[Assistant] You gotta fix that and you can be stubborn if you want to and hang out with Matt Canada some more and the results are not going to change. This team, there's no team on planet earth that runs the ball more on second and 10 breach anywhere on the planet. And that includes teams with quarterbacks with no arms. True story.


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[Assistant] But you might be right in the sense that Breach, maybe they don't trust Kenny Pickett, but that goes back to my original point. Why are you drafting a 23-0 quarterback who needs time to learn when you could just address other positions? Roll with Mitch.


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[Assistant] Breaking news, Zach Taylor outcoaches Matt Canada. Put that on your resume.


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[Assistant] No, that's a big win for the Bengals. I'm sure Breach feels similarly in terms of the conference win and the division win. They're back in the playoff chase.


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[Assistant] Don't fall for it, Breeze. He's just setting you up.


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[Assistant] I can't wait to hear this hot take. I'm going to try, let me take some deep breaths and meditate. Go ahead. Say whatever you're going to say, Branson.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. The Marcus Jones touchdown return.


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[Assistant] I say it every, congratulations on that. That is your, you own the revenge game space, no doubt about it. Uh, I say it just about every week. The Patriots crushed that draft last year. Marcus Jones, Jack Jones, uhm, I'm trying to think who else they get. Oh, Taekwon Thornton's been hurt, so we'll see how that works out. Cole Strange has been great. So uhm,


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[Assistant] Marcus Jones was, I think I probably mentioned this all the time, he's like 5'9", 5'10". If he were 6'1", he'd have been a first round pick. But obviously he adds returnability. He played some wide receiver at Houston. He's a really good slot cornerback. He can play outside. So again, that's the difference. Uhm, so Billy, you got that, uh, Zach Wilson clip? Is that ready to go?


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[Assistant] So Zach Wilson was asked after the game if this was his fault, when the offense played for three points.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, how far do you think, what's the farthest in the second half that the Jets offense got?


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[Assistant] So yeaah, not great. So Breach, what would you think as a, as a fan of a team that's sucked forever, if your quarterback came out and said, no, it's not my fault that I threw for four yards and ran for six yards and our team lost because we only scored three points.


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[Assistant] Another thing, Breach, you mentioned that wide receivers may not be happy with the words that left Zach Wilson's mouth. Here's Garrett Wilson after the game. This ish, he didn't say ish, is not okay. Straight up. It is not okay. How many total yards do we have?


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[Assistant] Yes, can I continue with, with Gary Wilson's words?


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[Assistant] Uh, we ain't gotta be in games like this. They didn't even score an offense and we lost the game!


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[Assistant] That's, that's, I feel like passive aggressively pointing at Zach Wilson that he wasn't responsible for any of that.


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[Assistant] Robert Salas said that he is not changing quarterbacks when asked about it after the game when he said the dog-ish words, so.


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[Assistant] Why? What, what, what is this weird fascination with keeping people in jobs that they're not good at?


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[Assistant] Justin Fields, he's not bad, he's good. He's hurt. How, what's the level of severity of the injury?


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[Assistant] Either way, I think, unlike Deshaun Watson, which is another quarterback, I think you should play because he needs the reps, Zach Wilson has proven that he is not very good.


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[Assistant] I think what we learned about Levin, he won three in a row, which is awesome. I love that Dan Campbell's winning games because I said, I don't know if he's a good coach or not, but he feels like a guy that guys would run through walls for and that appears to be happening. They've drafted well, Penesul a couple of years ago, that offensive line is really good. Jerichoff succeeded everyone's expectations.


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[Assistant] Ironically, he is totally outballing Matthew Stafford, who, yes, I know is injured. Yes, they won a Super Bowl. It was totally worth it. But just in terms of which quarterback is playing better, uh, in their respective previous homes, I think right now it's Jared Goff. Princeton disagrees because he's a Matt Stafford stand.


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[Assistant] And future Hall of Famer. Yep, beat you to it. So it doesn't count. Uh, Aiden Hutchinson, this, uh, had an interception and a, uh, sack again today. And let me get, let me find a fun fact for you, Breach. And also-


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[Assistant] So the only rookie with multiple sacks and interceptions this season.


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[Assistant] Typically when the Lions get up and it's the fourth quarter that the wheels just fall off and they, they blow huge leads. Uh, the Lions looked like they were going to let New York back in and then Isaiah Hodgson's, uh, who they got off the Bills practice squad, I believe for wide receiver fumbled in the fourth quarter. It was 24 to 12.


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[Assistant] My man DeAndre Souffle on the score along with Jamal Adams, uh, Jamal Williams, as you mentioned, uh, Brinson had a fantastic day and I felt like they turned the corner and being able to hold off teams in the fourth quarter, which they had never done, it felt like in the last two years.


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[Assistant] Billy mentioned this earlier when we were talking about Kenny Pickett. He said Kenny Pickett is closer to Daniel Jones than Joe Burrow. What are we doing with Daniel Jones after this season?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm LTE right now. Don't worry about it. I'll assume you win. So they traded Canaries Tony because that wasn't working out.


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[Assistant] Wondell Robinson might have a serious knee injury. Uh, he left the game. So that's a concern. You talk about Daniel Jones. I don't think he gets benched, but if he has no one to throw the ball to, and he already didn't have anyone to throw the ball to, being without Wondell Robinson is a concern. Only one catch for four yards, or one, excuse me, one rush for four yards, nine catches for a hundred yards before he left. So that's also something to keep an eyeball on. All right. What's next?


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[Assistant] That's right, it was a whooping. Jordan Dejani, our buddy at CBS Sports tweeted this out, uh, about this 483 win that you just mentioned that breached.


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[Assistant] This is funny. I hope you know the answer. This is the second largest home loss in Vikings franchise history. The third largest loss in NFL history by a team that entered the game 8-1 or better. Like I'm actually curious about the second largest home loss and the third largest loss for the team with that record.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it certainly checks out that this will be the largest road win for the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] I have another fact about that, but you guys can talk first and I'll circle back.


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[Assistant] He had a 30 yard touchdown reception. He had a 68 yard touchdown reception on both those receptions. He was touched exactly zero times by defenders. Uh, not to mention him running the football.