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[Assistant] Yeaah, they didn't. Listen, we all know that Borough wasn't playing well early in the season. Uhm, like he didn't against the Browns. But, uh, that game wasn't as close as the fight.


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[Assistant] I mean what they did to Seattle and Detroit was very impressive. Yea it was. But what the Browns did to the Bengals and Tennessee, Arizona I can't get as worked up about because that was just horrible.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that was a nice addition. We better save his job. Alright Mike, what do you got for us now?


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[Assistant] I have never been questioning PFF more than now because I was going through PFF yesterday looking, I was looking at all the, the Browns players and the Bengals players that play a lot.


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[Assistant] This is just not for even work, I was just interested.


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[Assistant] And I saw some guys, I'm like, this guy, cause obviously for the Browns and the Bengals, I watch every game. And I'm like,


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[Assistant] So what's helped all the corners is the fact that their safeties are playing at such a high level. Right? If you trust your safeties...


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[Assistant] Now there was, listen, I don't know, you know him personally and obviously we're not asking anyone to share any personal information. Yea. But I had heard from a couple different people that he was going through something personally last year and that maybe that played a role. Because you talked about him being happy, he didn't look happy last year. He did not. And this year he looks like he's super happy.


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[Assistant] I just need to kick some ass. Be physical in this game, obviously.


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[Assistant] Guys, for me, I mean listen, the Ravens have some solid backs, and their running game is dangerous, but I'm way more concerned about Lamar running.


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[Assistant] Lamar is the biggest problem. He gave them problems the first time they played, and he's a guy you're not used to having to account for because there's really nobody else in the league, maybe Justin Fields, that can...


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[Assistant] Uh, apparently, uh, Jamar Chase is supposedly going to do some crazy dance or something for his next touchdown and Chad Johnson said he was going to pay his pay.


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[Assistant] That Jim Schwartz will do that. Will say, J.O.K. Your job today.


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[Assistant] So you're going six DBs, one linebacker. Here, he going down. Yes. Alright guys, we'll get, we'll get back to the defense, obviously, including as part of our conversation with Aditi Kinkalpalla. We don't even have a read.


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[Assistant] If I wrote it, you wouldn't be able to read it because I have terrible handwriting. But uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah. To me that seems obvious. I agree with you. I'm leaning towards that. But there's still a long season to go.


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[Assistant] And he's, I agree he's in, with Tivus, he's in the conversation, but right now there are people that are clearly ahead of him. Who?


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[Assistant] I think the ra- the reason to me that the Ravens and-


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[Assistant] You know, I think right now they're the best team in the AFC right now at the moment. But the reason I think they're not getting a lot of hype


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[Assistant] By the way, Aditi, can we just talk for a minute about how frustrating it is?


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[Assistant] Well that's still more than you would have thought from him. That's still crazy.


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[Assistant] Shame on you. I mean both these guys are not even good.


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[Assistant] I'm out of pocket? Yeah. Yes. What's Elijah Moore's most yards this year? 29.


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[Assistant] I just feel like if you're gonna have success running, to me it's a guy like Kareem Hunt that's gonna have the game.


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[Assistant] And remember, Lamar didn't run as much.


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[Assistant] He might have run more had the game been in doubt. That's true. The Browns were getting crushed. That is true. They won't probably stop calling any runs.


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[Assistant] He can get 30. Have we heard about Draymond Jones?


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[Assistant] I think they got a shock because of Watson.


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[Assistant] Which is not unfair, but he's the most down on him. I got the shot one touchdown, no turnovers. Cause I got a low scoring game, very low scoring.


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[Assistant] Man, if you ask this trivia question to non-Browns fans, even a lot of Browns fans probably wouldn't have gotten that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he's good. You alright? You ready? Who's gonna have more touchdowns this year? Nick Harris or Elijah Moore? Dang. Stop doing that.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna give you a bold prediction right now. You heard it here first. Cedric Tillman, second on the Browns in receiving yards this week.


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[Assistant] By the way, him being where he stands in the Browns Pantheon is irrelevant. The Browns have had one terrible coach after the next. So that's not a reason to do it. I agree with the rest of it, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] That's a lot of points. 37. Nobody was screaming for Sean Payton at the time Sean Payton was coaching the Saints. I don't know what he's talking about. People were screaming for Josh McDaniels. I was not one of those people.


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[Assistant] Bernie, we're a little disappointed because a couple weeks ago you were with Taylor Swift, and now we expect you to be with a famous, another famous celebrity beside yourself every week.


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[Assistant] By the way, Bernie, I wanted to look it up because when you played, I mean, there weren't a lot of mobile quarterbacks when you were, there weren't a lot of guys running around like there are now.


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[Assistant] Do you know offhand the most rushing yards you have in the season?


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[Assistant] Like, you know, not everybody's Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields, but like, even guys, even a guy like Joe Burrow, like, who's not really a running quarterback, he'll run. You know, so many guys run now, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] When you look at, uh, you know, you were talking to Tyvis about, you know, Watson's deep throws. What did you think of his? Like, cause to me the first half was very shaky and then he was better. And so it kind of made sense looking back that he did play against Arizona. Maybe he got some of the rust off there in that first half. Cause if he had that against Baltimore, it's going to be a problem.


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[Assistant] Bill Callahan, you're right. I mean, Bill Callahan is as good as he gets, but at some point you come to a point where you just don't have the body. Yeah. Quick game.


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[Assistant] Bernie, completely off topic here. Do you watch?


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[Assistant] There's a difference even between Hall of Famers and then the top Hall of Famers. And I always felt like, as great as Miles Garrett's been, that there was still that one little level that most players can't ever get to that he could and he hadn't, and I feel like he's gotten that this year. Is that crazy? Or is that true?


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[Assistant] You're almost out of time Bernie. You're feeling good about a win. It's gonna be tough. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Alright, coming up in overtime today, DJ Hazmat is gonna join us, he's gonna unveil it. He actually did not do a song last week.


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[Assistant] Off to Brown's victory over the lowly Cardinals. Coming up tomorrow, we're on channel 3. Remember, 1230 to 1 o'clock after being on YouTube from 11 to 1230. Mike, any final comment?


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[Assistant] I went to, I actually, cause I decided to start growing my beard again. Winter beard. This week. The winter beard, right? So, I actually went to the woman who cuts my hair. I stopped by this morning just to go in for her to like trim up the beard on here and here. That's a trim up? Well, like, yeah, look. Little line. Oh, you got some lice in.


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[Assistant] Nah, I like it. The only place that I find itchy is right on my chin.


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[Assistant] Interesting. And she put some sort of beard oil or something, made it feel better, I don't know. Yea, softened it.


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[Assistant] A lot of people took this as a bad sign that he didn't throw the ball that well. I took exactly what you said at the end. To me, this was a huge positive. He hasn't been on the field in a month. So the fact that he feels well enough to get on the throw, to get on the field and make some throws. Now, what we don't know is,


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[Assistant] You know, you're gonna drop some bad passes short because you, you know, you're not giving it your all.


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[Assistant] There, we, the Browns cannot rush him back, okay? If we believe...


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[Assistant] That the Browns defense is the best defense in football, which through six, five games, six weeks, it is clearly. I don't think there's any debate.


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[Assistant] Then there's no reason the Browns shouldn't be able to win two of the next three games without


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[Assistant] I'm not saying it's going to be easy, it's the NFL and you have a bad quarterback, but if the defense is as good as we've seen it be, and we believe it is, they should be able to win two of the next three. If they do that,


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[Assistant] They will, I think yesterday I said five and four, but they would be five and three, actually. Right? Right? With nine games to go. Okay, now Deshaun Watson has sat nearly two months. That should be enough time, you would think.


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[Assistant] We've heard a lot, four to six weeks, four to six weeks. Well, the Ravens game is about eight weeks from his injury. That should be more than enough time.


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[Assistant] And then it got worse as he played. But the huge difference is here, Bernie had the injury.


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[Assistant] And then immediately played the following Sunday. And then he had one week off because of a bye, and then he played again. So by the time it got really bad for him, well he was now playing his third game in four weeks. Whereas, assuming Deshaun Watson doesn't play this week, and as of now we're all on the same page on this, it's gonna be at least five weeks


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[Assistant] Till he plays where again, Bernie played one week later. That's a massive difference in the two situations.


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[Assistant] I know that, but I'm not saying, obviously if he's good to go, you play him, you know, even the Arizona game, if he's, if he feels like he's a hundred percent and you feel like he's making all the throws, then fine. I don't think you sit him just because he won the last two, but this, but on the other hand,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say the Seattle game. That's my guess. I'm gonna say Arizona.


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[Assistant] Those guys make everybody better. Now, Deshaun Watson in Houston was that guy. In Cleveland, he hasn't been.


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[Assistant] That's to be determined whether we can still be that guy. Right. On the other hand, there's a handful of receivers, and the Browns, even Amari Cooper, in my opinion, is not one of them, because I think there's like,


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[Assistant] I mean, if I'm the Browns, I have zero worry about anything on defense.


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[Assistant] Uh, obviously, if I'm, if Jim Schwartz is game planning for this game, the game plan is obvious. I'll put Nate in the box, and I'm saying, Gardner Mitshu, you beat us. Good luck with your, and the Colts have one pass catcher.


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[Assistant] Who is anything but a jag, and that's Michael Pittman.


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[Assistant] Good player. Really good. Maybe a pinch below Amari Cooper. He's in the neighborhood.


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[Assistant] Smart move. I benched, I actually benched Jonathan Taylor in a league that I have him in. I have a deeper running back. Because I'm like...


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[Assistant] I'm not expecting the Colts to do much offensively. Now, I don't think they're gonna be, I don't think it's gonna be as bad as it was. I don't think the Browns will be as dominant in the run game as it was against the Titans.


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[Assistant] But I think it's more likely to be that than it is the Colts run all over the Browns because


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I was gonna say they have a bad, they have a worse passing game, but I don't know. Titans don't have a good passing game either.


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[Assistant] The Colts, there's just no real threat in the passing game. So the game plan, yes, to stop that run. Now other teams have probably had that game plan to some degree, but they don't have the talent and defense that the Browns have.


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[Assistant] And the thing is, the Browns are now at a point, especially in the front, where they have good depth. And so they can rotate. They're not going to stay fresh on the defensive line also. Listen, to me, the only way the Browns lose this game, and this is possible because it almost happened last week, is if Anthony, I was about to say Anthony Walker, if PJ Walker


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[Assistant] He turns the ball over a bunch of times. That's the only reason they should lose this game. You're right, I agree with that. Is if he turns the ball over, because his two picks almost the third, if he threw that third pick in the end zone, they would have lost the game. That's the only way if you get, because the Colts...


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[Assistant] Are not going to, I don't see this, be able to methodically move the ball down the field, just running the ball. I, I, I don't see it. Maybe once, that's about


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[Assistant] Yeaah, after that Browns game. Debo's gonna play, McCaffrey may play, although it's a Monday night, so.


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[Assistant] But I don't care who plays, I think they're going to destroy Minnesota.


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[Assistant] And after a couple of games, it got worse, right? He couldn't control the ball. Did you ever have this specific injury in your career?


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[Assistant] How many games did you end up missing when you had that?


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[Assistant] So I wonder, I wonder guys, sorry to cut you off, Jay, but I wonder if like, you know, you missed two weeks, Bernie played right there with it and he was like, well, after a couple of weeks, I was a mess. But the fact that Watson is going to rest if he doesn't play this week, at least five weeks, if not a little longer, I wonder if that gives him an advantage over you guys who came back so quick.


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[Assistant] Looking at this team right now, if they were to make a deal, what do you think is more important? Uh, a better backup quarterback? A running back? A wide receiver? Maybe even a left tackle? I don't know. What, what would you say looking at this team would be the biggest need to you?


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[Assistant] Is Andy Dalton enough of an upgrade if you went down that road?


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[Assistant] That's all we're asking PJ Walker to do basically is don't turn the ball over. A punt is okay. I'm usually not a punt guy, you know me.


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[Assistant] Makes you think that maybe it is possibly going to play this week. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Well that will be a, that is hopefully a fun topic for us to discuss next week.


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[Assistant] My guess is he's going to be listed as limited and questionable for the game. I think he would be questionable.


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[Assistant] But again, Bernie played immediately after the injury the next week.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are playing at home, but they're playing Detroit. I mean, that's a tough game. The Ravens are favored by three at FanDuel. I like the Lions a lot in that game. I think the Lions are gonna go to both and win. By the way, the Lions are sneaky, really good on defense. Nobody's paying attention to that. They're sneaky, good on defense, and we know what they are on offense.


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[Assistant] And the Steelers have to go to the Rams. And the Rams are a decent team.


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[Assistant] The Bengals run a bye this week. So the Browns, you know, we could see the other teams both losing. Not a short thing certainly.


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[Assistant] You know, it is a skill, or an art form, really, that we don't really talk about much. The ability to catch a ball on the sideline and keep your feet in balance.


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[Assistant] That, these guys that are not good at it. We've seen Elijah Moore a bunch of times. He's all discombobulated when he's near the sidelines. And he's not alone. A lot of wide receivers struggle being able to make the catch and drag the feet.


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[Assistant] Well, think about it, if you're mostly watching the Browns this year, you're not gonna see a lot of those great sideline catches. A, the only one good at it on the Browns is Amari Cooper, and B, the Browns defensive backs have been so good, they're not giving up a lot of those on that end. So, you're not seeing them much in the Browns games.


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[Assistant] That's like Tim Tebow playing quarterback basically. Gotta get that Tebow shot in. I can't pick up Baker all the time.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this real quick. Uh, G, let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] When you, when a team has third and long, is the defense more likely to play zone in a third and very long situation?


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[Assistant] I would say that's unfair, Mike. He's only played one game though, right?


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[Assistant] So he did come in and release. In the first game he played through two passes, and in the fourth game he didn't throw any.


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[Assistant] No fan base is not going to be cocky after the team beats the 49ers. The 49ers is the best team in football. The Browns with a non-NFL quarterback beat them. So of course you're going to be cocky.


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[Assistant] It's not your bad. I should not have stuck on that topic. Even though I was factually correct, it was unnecessary.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of reasons for that that go into that, right? Sure. Guys are not super fast. Yeaah. Guys are not wide open. They're not running free.


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[Assistant] Uh, some of it is, some of it is the quarterback not hitting guys in the right


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[Assistant] But Shane, think about this for a second. If you're, if a guy's cutting across the middle, and the quarterback's throwing him a pass, and he's got just a half a step on that defensive back, well if you hit him in stride,


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[Assistant] That might be 10, 15, 20. Sure. If he has to go back just a bit. Tackled right away. That could be the difference between 50 yards.


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[Assistant] By the way, let me give you some of the wide receivers who are in the top 10 yards after catch that are not speed burners. One of them, Adam Thielen, is top 10 yards after catch.


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[Assistant] How many teams, how many teams have gotten worse quarterback play than the Browns so far this year? Not many. Not many.


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[Assistant] Starting offensive lineman that did not practice today.


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[Assistant] One of them says a brain injury. It doesn't say concussion, it says brain injury.


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[Assistant] You know how in the parentheses it'll say neck or leg or knee or whatever? It says brain. I've never heard that before. Also from Jake Trapp.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's true. Also Jake Trotter of ESPN says that in the media portion of practice, again that's only a small part of practice, Sean Watson took all the first team reps.


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[Assistant] Glory days, glory days back in the day, they played for Ignatius. I mean, listen, they had this shaved brisket that was tremendous. Macaroni and cheese from scratch. That had to be like six cheeses and that. And also the collard greens with the turkey.


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[Assistant] The turkey that's been soaking for hours in the collard greens, and they had these unique smoked wings I've never tasted before. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I'm going back, I'm taking my peoples coming up today. Oh, you're going back today? No, this weekend, they're coming up here to go to the tailgate.


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[Assistant] They're garbage little dink and dunk. Like, they don't be doing nothing.


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[Assistant] They get a couple sacks from, uh, from Highsmith and, uh, uh, uh, T.J. Y. And it's just, they just go off of that stuff. I'm like, man, I hate that.


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[Assistant] I think it, I think it matters a little bit. I think the game plan changes a little bit depending on who the quarterback is. For me, uhm,


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[Assistant] This game, I'm not gonna say it's a trap game, but I mean the Cardinals can come out here and beat the Browns.


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[Assistant] Uh, especially if the Cleveland Browns don't play to their strengths and what they need to do.


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[Assistant] And like you said, when you got PJ Walker playing and this guy's giving up turnovers and strip sacks and, and when you get, especially inside the red zone, like you, he has to understand situational football. Like, Hey, I'm over the 30 yard line. We got three points. Let's not give it up here. I think the Browns are favorite for a reason. I think they are at home.


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[Assistant] But there does, it is a little bit of a, uh, uh, uh, idea that changes my, my perspective because to me,


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[Assistant] This was the week that would have been a perfect week to go back to DTR. Uhm, you could have had them ready, maybe, you know, they kind of spot shadowed them a little bit. They showed them in the Seahawks game. I think it would have been a great opportunity to go back to them. Obviously, they think that, you know, PJ Walker is a guy that gives them a better chance. I would disagree with that, but uhm, you know, if Deshaun Watson is playing,


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[Assistant] Even if it's a bad Watson, even if it's a Watson that doesn't have a lot on it, at least from my perspective, Deshaun would not give the ball away in certain perspectives at certain times of the game like PJ Walker would.


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[Assistant] Do I pick the Browns that should win this game? They should win this game if they're gonna do a playoff team. You can't lose to the Cardinals after you throw away a game in Seattle and call yourself a playoff team. Yeah, I think, I don't think


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[Assistant] I just, that's why I always assume that he's not going to be back 100%. Like we, we, we take into account for...


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[Assistant] There's so many different ways you can set yourself back when you have an injury like this. You could be throwing a ball.


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[Assistant] You can land on your shoulder. You could be hit. You could be roughed up. Uhm, you could have accumulation of swelling just from throwing the ball over a period of time, over a couple of week period of time. We don't know how this thing is gonna, and one thing that everybody knows that has had injuries and difficulty with surgeries or anything,


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[Assistant] Wait till it get cold outside. This is a guy who never, who was submitted, does not like the cold weather. Now you got an achy shoulder, it's November, it's December, it's cold outside, you're landing on it. That's why for me, I've always thought, like, like, Cleveland Browns fans and the coaching staff,


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[Assistant] Well, if I wanna get to the, if I wanna get to the Muni lot, cause I gotta be on the radio. Yeah, but the Muni lot's right here. If I get to the Muni lot at, what, nine? That's two hours? That's not enough time? Cause I gotta go to the radio at eleven.


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[Assistant] Uhm, now, now their room for error goes up a little bit. Now you gotta, you gotta take and consider. Now look, he tore his ACL. I don't know if he's gonna be running around like, but I assume that if he's Kyler Murray, that's part of his game. At least he's gonna be able to extend plays.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you saw what Kyler Murray did to the Browns a couple years ago when he was here. Completely embarrassed the Browns, you know, in that game. So to me, of course, if Kyler Burn plays a little bit...


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[Assistant] That's gonna be, you know, uh, a better chance for the Cardinals to put points on the board. However,


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[Assistant] It's like preseason for him. Like we talk about Deshaun Watson being rusty. This guy hasn't played any preseason, hasn't done anything. He's coming right off the IR, right to the field playing against the Browns defense that has been dominated at times this year. So, uh, yeah, it's a little bit of a boon for them, but I don't expect that.


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[Assistant] That to be the determination of whether the Browns won or not.


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[Assistant] I mean, man, you know, they're so crazy. I would, I'm just sitting there thinking in my head though. It would be kind of nice to see Deshaun Watson get


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[Assistant] You know, come out there, go through a whole game, get hit a couple times, get up, not be injured.


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[Assistant] Throw for 225, 230, maybe a touchdown or two, and then get ready, and then I'd have some confidence going into that Baltimore game saying, okay, alright, well we got something to think about. But, you know, I kinda, I worry about him just knocking off the rust, just going right back to Baltimore. It's just, it's a tough one.


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[Assistant] When you come in and you look at shorts, you look at this defensive line and you say look.


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[Assistant] We're not giving no rookie all this, this, this space. We're not giving him none of this.


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[Assistant] They don't take no time to be coming after P.J. Walker. They just, right now, five, five, you're going to go five wide, we'll bring six feet. That's what the Steelers did against Will Levitz yesterday. Look, when you get a rookie in there, you have to let him know, oh, this is going to be a very long day, and this is what the NFL is about.


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[Assistant] We gonna bring heat and pressure and you gonna have to figure out in like two seconds where to throw the football. We should be jumping routes. We should be getting sacks. We should bring the heat from beginning to end and the goal is to embarrass him. That's not, not, not lighten up or, or let him get comfortable. You don't let rookies get comfortable.


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[Assistant] You know, we've been, we've been talking, you know, for, it seems like every, every week about what we do in that quarterback. And, you know, you got the Cardinals coming up. Uhm, you can look at it two ways. You can look at it and say, let's give Deshaun Watson the other week, get ready for the Ravens if that's at all possible. Or you can look at it and say, well look,


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[Assistant] Sean has not had an opportunity to play, didn't get his, didn't get the rust knocked off so to speak, has not played against Tennessee, maybe we use this.


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[Assistant] As a way in order to get to, uh, um, to, to, you know, see what he, what he has in a tune up game. Where do you stand on that? One more week of rest or possibly getting him out there if he, if he's healthy.


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[Assistant] Tim, I can't understand this for the life of me. Maybe I'm just a over a washed up fat boy defensive lineman that ate myself out of defensive end, now I'm a tackle or a stand up three technique. Uhm, why is it that we go five wide, right?


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[Assistant] And five wide takes a lot of execution. Like you, you know, you gotta read blitzes and you identify who's coming. Maybe if you had a problem, you got a one-on-one with Jed Wills or a tackle outside. And on top of that, you gotta read the defense and do it all in like under two seconds and then throw to the right person.


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[Assistant] It just seems like sometimes when we go five wide with PJ Walker or some of our younger quarterbacks, there seems to be some, some holding onto the ball and predetermined of throws. How difficult is it to really


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[Assistant] Get into the gun in 5Y cause you was doing this since you was in middle school and diagnose what they're doing and run that, you know, just running up to a level, a high standard.


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[Assistant] Man, I'ma, I'ma steal this. I brought this up yesterday since you the resident quarterback here.


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[Assistant] On Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. I was talking about it. My man Quincy Carrier came up with this thought process. He said, look.


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[Assistant] You know, it's kind of difficult to put Deshaun Watson on the field when you don't know whether or not he's going to be able to throw the ball with adrenaline in game time throws. He came up with something I thought was very interesting. He said, what if you, before the game,


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[Assistant] Put Deshaun Watson in shoulder pads, like all the equipment, and put him through a pro day.


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[Assistant] And then if he could go through a pro day and be able to put his jersey back on, you know he could throw the football. I thought that was kind of interesting. Is that feasible? Is that too much throwing?


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[Assistant] In a pro day circumstance, uhm, that could aggravate it, or how, how well could you gauge from that process that he was ready to throw the football, comparing the two kids you've been through, both of them?


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[Assistant] Man, he, he, and that, that's sponsored by Just For Man.


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[Assistant] You know, basically when you're on defense, you're just guessing.


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[Assistant] Like, you just do an educated guessing. Like, okay, what do we think they're gonna come out in, right? And, you know, when Jason talks about descriptive plays...


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[Assistant] All new plays, just like anything you watched on film, you're not getting those plays. These are all, hey, this is what the Cleveland Browns just did last week. These are the plays we think we can catch them and get some points, right? And so a lot of times,


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[Assistant] Maybe they get off schedule or get off track with the simple fact that they have, uh, you know, they got the ball first and maybe they get a holding penalty. You get a holding penalty on a big play or on a drive. Now you're first to 20. And now once again, they're off schedule. So now you get an opportunity to stymie them a little bit.


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[Assistant] But when you go back and if you can put those points up, those totals, uh, by a quarter. You want by a quarter? Yeaah. Uhm, you start to see where, where they, the Browns are very good. The Browns are really awesome.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the third quarter, I believe it was 13 points that they're giving up in the third quarter. That means after they done exhausted all them little plays, they trick plays, all the script and stuff, you come out in half time and the Browns not giving you nothing. Uh, now here's a- That's less than two points per game.


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[Assistant] And that number right there is keeping them in the game with a backup terrible quarterback. That because when you come out they make it into the adjustments and now the Browns because once again


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[Assistant] You're not, you're out of the scripted plays and now the Browns are able to just run the ball, be methodical and then you can flip the field. And if I'm getting turnovers, we flip the field now because we can start getting on the board and getting three points or seven points. So I think a lot of the first quarter is the fact that, you know, like Jason said, you're just trying to figure that people know the Cleveland Browns are good.


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[Assistant] So you're gonna get their best punch in the first part of the first quarter because those are the plays that they've schemed together that think they're gonna be successful.


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[Assistant] I think people don't, they don't estimate how much pressure that is.


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[Assistant] To not give up points. Like, I mean these guys are professionals just like you and you can, you can, everybody can be on schedule, 10 guys can do their job and one guy just gets beat on a good throw. Or, or different things like that. So for me, it's kind of difficult to hold guys to those points. And look, sometimes you're going to have a bad week.


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[Assistant] You had a bad week, you missed an assignment, things like that happen. Yeah. But since your offense is so much, you know, below what your defensive standards are, you kinda have to, like, the defense has to play at a certain level every week to give themselves a chance to win.


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[Assistant] Let's say if he goes out there and he looks bad, or he has a setback, I think you can't do this no more. You just have to go, you have to put him on IR.


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[Assistant] Yeah, his screen game is a necessity. He's a necessity. He's not doing that to diversify his playbook. He's like, man, we can't throw the ball more than 15 yards down the field, bro. Let's just get the screen game going. I would take 15. 15 would be a win. My goodness, like, so, but here's the thing.


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[Assistant] One of them was throwing sidearms all the way past the forehash, all the way out of bounds with a sidearm pass. That's it.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson, go back and watch those empty plays. He was, Deshaun Watson was not getting back to his third step and getting rid of the ball. He was running around playing playground batting football.


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[Assistant] Like he was making guys miss, guys slip DeAndre Hopkins a miss, you have guys leaking down the field and he was just running around and on that turf and looking more athletic than everybody.


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[Assistant] 2019, y'all gotta understand that. Somebody was in, somebody was a freshman in either high school or college. They are now in grad school.


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[Assistant] 2019 and it's 2023. They are now entering grad school. That was a long time ago. So yeaah, you might have liked 5Y then, but right now, the 5Y that we running has Harrison Bryant


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[Assistant] David and Joku and Jerome Ford split out wide with Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore. That's not the same playbook.


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[Assistant] And it, it, it didn't work with DTR. Not gonna work here. And you gotta think about it. We just got, we just now today stopped jumping off the roof about Jay Wills. Just today. Like we didn't, he had two good weeks where we didn't hear his name. We was like, thank God, bro.


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[Assistant] You got Jed Wills, and you have receivers with no separation game. So, why would you run 5-Y? And my thing is, it takes, it takes out any threat of run. Now, if he was a guy that was gonna use quarterback draw with that,


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[Assistant] Quarterback power play. I like that because now you get to get guys, but now they're just lining up blitz of people confusing the quarterback and it's just, well that's not very good.


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[Assistant] And one more thing. He made himself some money, bro. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] That's why I was freaking out when they cut him at first. I said, what?


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[Assistant] Now there's a guy, now look, I don't know if they gonna be like Zedarius Smith, I don't know about that. He might be a one and done.


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[Assistant] Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. Listen, let me get the camera. Where you at? Hey Jordan Elliott, man. This your boy G Bush, man. I'm sorry, bro.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, my dog. Listen, I, I, I know, uh, you know, saying we was on you for about three years, but I don't know what happened. You got some Scooby snacks or whatever the case may be. You, but you a dog now. You, you've been balling. You've been in the backfield. You've been penetrating. I don't know what's going on. Super duper balls, but.


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[Assistant] Jordan Elliott, eh, salute my brother. You out here killing it this year. I've been watching. I've been watching. Uh, I don't know what happened. Um, this is the second time I had to apologize. Anthony Walker, now I gotta apologize to Jordan Elliott. I'm not doing it no more. But here you go, man. Salute to you. He's been playing well this year.


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[Assistant] Or, or, or the death blow is if you throw the ball on first down and it's a holding penalty, you're done. First and 20. You're, you're, you might as well. Just punt. Punt right there. Right? You just. The best teams don't run a lot.


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[Assistant] And I think this was one of the reasons why the Cleveland Browns did not go about and make a move. Uhm, you know, and get another quarterback because they thought that


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[Assistant] He was a little bit ready. And obviously we thought that might have been down the line maybe next week or a week after that. But, you know, trade deadline passes earlier this week. Guess what? Deshaun Watson is back on the field. Uhm, and we'll see if he's able to go. For me, uhm,


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[Assistant] To make it through this game with no setbacks. That's all you should be worried about. Like, right? You know, you don't need any bumps, bruises, setbacks. Jason, hopefully he can make it through and you can start putting together some games together. Hopefully that's the thing. I don't know if you're as optimistic about that as other people are though.


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[Assistant] At that point, you owe it to your team. Yeaah. You can't keep doing this. To know who's going to play and who's going to start. Put them on four game IR. Go get a guy off the street or whatever. Get DTR ready to play.


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[Assistant] No, he, he's got to pick up his car right after the show, so he asked if he could drop it off and, but Earl is fine, he sent his stuff in, he's killing it today. If it's up to me.


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[Assistant] It's DTR and it's not even close. I don't care if you think there's a 2% chance Walker might give you a better chance. You traded Josh Jobs as Bull alluded to for a reason. You believe this guy, DTR was capable of being quarterback too and you're going to throw that away after one.


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[Assistant] Well then, Andrew Barry royally effed this up. You aren't kidding. So, to me, it's DTR or not.


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[Assistant] Gee, can I ask you a question? Sure. Do you feel lied to? Is that where the frustration comes from that you feel deceived by the perceived notion that the offense would be different and now it's not?


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[Assistant] Heading into last season when we thought Jacobi Bressette would be the quarterback, Miles Garrett said, I don't really care who's back at quarterback because the defense allows zero points. We can't lose. So we need that kind of mentality going. We got a PCC read real quick and then we'll move on to our next topic.


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[Assistant] Then that's the move. Then it's not even a question. Let's hold the bait. There you go. Mutant point.


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[Assistant] You have specific knowledge on what he brings as a head coach that.


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[Assistant] The rest of us frankly will never understand because we were never in a locker room with Mr. Shanahan. So, from your perspective, what makes Kyle Shanahan such a unique and successful head coach?


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[Assistant] He is third in the NFL in average time to release, 2.35 seconds, behind only Joe Burrow and Tua this year.


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[Assistant] No, that's my form. Wait, real quick, Ty, you said he learned it from Shanahan. I think they learned it from Ray Farmer when they were here in Cleveland. Oh, no question. Origin of all this. No, no question. He's the godfather of all of us.


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[Assistant] Uh, starters tier or coaches tier, you can join on our YouTube page, click the join button. It is a buck 99 a month for the starters tier, 499 for the coaches tier. Coach tier gets you overtime plus texting from Jason this weekend. You can find the link in the community member, uh, community tab members only if you want to be part of that. So we talked about the 49ers offense. Tyvis, if you were Jim Schwartz on defense, how do you stop these guys?


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[Assistant] Yeah, this season, I'll just read you the stats, but he's first in QBR, first in QB rating, second in yards per attempt, second in completion percentage, seventh in touchdown passes, eighth in passing yards. He leads the league in completion percentage on passes that travel at least 10 yards in the air or more. That was the big one that surprised me. I guess he's the best quarterback in football. I looked at that, Mike.


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[Assistant] Would you take him over Watson now? Yes. So that changed from yesterday?


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[Assistant] He has 22 touchdowns since December 4th of last year, second most in the NFL, tied with Mahomes, and the fewest interceptions in that span.


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[Assistant] Lomis. We got Lomis Brown, the legendary offense. There he is!


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[Assistant] Speaking of comments, callers, et cetera, we had a couple of comments and tweets from Open Locker Room today that we want to share with you first. Uh, the first one, Anthony, give me DTR.


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[Assistant] No idea is I had no idea. So once again, we are obviously here. We're not in the locker room, so we can only take the tweets we see online. This next one comes from Hayden Grove and this is about the Sean Watson. Hayden, read it.


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[Assistant] Next one from SetApartLaz. Hey boy, I like your haircut. You look like Fred Flintstone, LOL. Aww, that's not Flintstone.


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[Assistant] Rated R says, I would not bring Watson back till he's good because Jed Wills will end his season. Uh, you guys are the most fire show, best in Cleveland, we appreciate it rated. And TheBaser1990 says, the Sean Watson will not practice today after aggravating his rotator cuff by picking up his wallet.


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[Assistant] There, I mean, there was one from DPJ saying he's not sure who's gonna throw him the ball this week, so there's just a lot of uncertainty. No one slipped up, no one said anything definitive one way or the other.


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[Assistant] What did he say? I don't remember that. Someone asked him why the offense wasn't seeming to be clicking yet. And he said there's just a communication. We talked about it on the show. We're not on the show.


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[Assistant] And was on crutches. And Joku posted a video on his Instagram yesterday of him working out, like catching passes and stuff. So I'm gonna, assuming never ends well.


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[Assistant] I love you. Go ahead. Real quick, uh, we're going to do two minutes on this because we only have two minutes left. I got woken up last night at a text from G. Bush. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, G Bush just sent me a quote. And G, I'm dry snitching, but you didn't say anything bad.


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[Assistant] All I need is one or two solid people with me and we can get this victory. Miles Garrett called me, said I got it done, big fella. Don't send me one of the Kool-Aid shirts because I'm not going to wear it on TV. But I got you, big dog. And guess what happened?


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[Assistant] Two people I want to say big shout out to. One of them, you know, I tell people I'm married to the film work. I don't want to do too much. I don't want to, you know, crap on you guys too much. I just tell it like it is. But Kevin Stefanski, let me shake your hand. There's your signature win.


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[Assistant] I love the fact that you got a signature win. The ball fell the right way. Shout out to you, Jed Wills. Haha, Jed Wills, you were downfield on a little screen pass. I was salty at you then, but for the most part.


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[Assistant] Solid game. Solid game. I saw you staying on your blocks. I saw you. I spot shadowed you. You might have given up crazy pressures. I thought you played a decent game and this is the great thing about football. Just because I correct you a couple of games does not mean I don't want you to win. Salute to you. I like what you did there son. Big win. Both ahead.


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[Assistant] The Kool-Aid Mafia, we did it. We did it, people. Oh, this is good. Tasty. Wow. This ain't bad.


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[Assistant] Oh, that was crazy. I was like, at that point in time, that was a terrible threat. I was like, yeah, um, yeah, we ain't drinking nothing today. That's about to get urban. I thought so too.


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[Assistant] They came in healthy, and we put that smackdown on them.


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[Assistant] On the lake shore is a reason people be missing. I'm not going to give you no excuse to talk about the weather. It is what it is. You come to Cleveland. We had to kick in. That's part of what we do up here. So that was part of the win we talk about. Look, we need to make it nasty and ugly. I love what Kevin Stefanski said at halftime.


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[Assistant] Guys, guys, did you get this message? No. There is a message right here that's been going off. I think my phone is on silent. There's an Amber Alert out for George Kittle.


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[Assistant] Was it, was it Schwartz adjustments? Yea, it was them first, I tell y'all about them scripted plays. Scripted plays is cheating. Scripted plays is, hey, we're gonna work on these all week. We already know what we're gonna run. It's like an open book task. Yea, like, it's like, okay, I got my plays that you probably haven't seen on film, and we're gonna run down a field and we're gonna score. But after you run them little plays that you just threw in this week,


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[Assistant] He's coming in, playing more, uh, uh, uh, oboe. He's coming in. They don't just keep Miles Garrett out there for a hundred thousand snaps. They got enough depth to bring, bring the pressure and keep bringing it. And I think the thing that happened to him was when you have the run game,


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[Assistant] Your natural reaction is to, like, you know what? I got, I got Deebo, I got Iook, I got, I got Kiddo. We need, we need to air this out a little bit. We'll test them back there. And that just didn't work. And that just didn't work. Just didn't work for you.


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[Assistant] And they got guys that are doing it at a high level. Shout out. I thought Denzel Ward again.


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[Assistant] Just played a, a, a fantastic game. They, you can't even.


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[Assistant] I couldn't get PJ Walker not to throw three picks. Because like,


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[Assistant] He scares me, and the Browns with that defense have the chance to beat anybody, but with PJ Walker at quarterback, they got a chance to lose to anybody.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he could have came out here and got boat-raced. Uhm, the 49ers were coming off.


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[Assistant] Uh, the biggest win of the season against the Dallas Cowboys and Kevin Stefanski, you know, he, we, we know the laundry list of people who we eat and have in. But one of the things that he did was he kept the game muddy, ugly and played to his strength.


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[Assistant] There was a couple of times that I really wanted him to, to run the football a little more or run in certain circumstances. And I liked the fact that you did come out and protect yourself. You did say PJ walking through that ball at the end of the game, he was not supposed to throw the ball and he was crazy for trying to do it.


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[Assistant] See Kevin sometimes telling the truth really actually works. Cause we was, we was getting on you, but I'm like, why would you be throwing a ball, even giving him an opportunity down there when you, you could have ran a ball three times, had three timeouts and left no time on the clock. But the cool thing I liked about what he did in that game was he brought, he dusted off Kareem Hunt.


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[Assistant] He dusted him off and said, listen, we gonna need you big fella. We gonna need you. It doesn't look pretty in the game plan.


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[Assistant] Yes I did. Yes I did. That's another one of the crystal ball type deals that I had yesterday or last week. You know, Kareem Hunt ran the ball aggressively. I thought like what he did and I like the fact


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[Assistant] The best thing that he did is he said, listen, I'm going to let the defense lead. You know, I'm going to let the defense handle that.


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[Assistant] And Jim Schwartz looked like he had people angry all last week, cause I know they had, was in the film room talking about what Baltimore was doing. I thought they came out with a chip on their shoulder and what Kevin Stefanski did is says, listen, listen, with this defense, punting is okay sometimes. Sure. And you look like you got a punter and it looks like you got a kicker. Looks like. Looks like.


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[Assistant] I mean, special teams are now playing a factor. I like the changes that he made and he got DPJ off the kickoff, the punt return team too. I like that. I thought, did DPJ play yesterday?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think he got kidnapped with uh, George Kittle. He's on that milk cart, he had no catches.


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[Assistant] That's a function of, if your quarterback can understand the moment, right? Some quarterbacks are, are arrogant enough to think they got an arm to fit it in other places. And some quarterbacks ain't smart enough to understand that you shouldn't throw it there. Like so.


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[Assistant] Why is the checkout player run? No, no, what? No, no. Here's what you do when they call that play and you call it in, in his helmet. You say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's like, and guess what? No checking to a run. Do not check to a run.


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[Assistant] It's easy for us to just not play in the game. If it was a regular quarterback, I wouldn't have no problem throwing it. But if it's a third string back up, no, no, no. I got no problem throwing. I'm with you, I'm with you. Three runs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I didn't like that. You know, I just be happy for the people because how many games...


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[Assistant] I can't remember a game when in my lifetime, and I'm 40 what, 2? I can't remember a game when it gets down to that and you start to see the momentum shifting and the events happening in succession where you're like, oh no, this is about to happen again.


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[Assistant] And it went the other way and I was like, finally, I was happy for all the people. Finally, y'all get to go to work on Monday and be like, that was a dog on shame. I feel sorry for them.


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[Assistant] Weird. And then the face mask, the face mask, they call it on the punt. Where, where the guys just, they're literally just face-masking them. And they said they call it on the Browns. And then they fixed it. And you see that.


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[Assistant] They have to work with these officials because it's almost, it's getting to the point where they feel like if there's a big play, something had to happen where that big play happened. Like they're looking for reasons to be like, Oh, big play. Did you hold? Was that passive interference? You're like, listen,


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[Assistant] When you, when you get, uh, Shanahan, they are, they're so multiple in what they do. They do a lot of misdirection stuff. They run from different platforms. Like they just do a really good job of keeping you off, like off key. So if you're a team that has a bunch of keys and a bunch of reads and we're going to switch to this coverage if they come out in this formation.


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[Assistant] You gonna get bogged down and by the time you know it, they runnin' to play and they just ran in reverse. So they ran in motion play.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Jim Schwartz has figured out the holy grail and it's been there right in front of everybody's face. If you simply...


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[Assistant] Be destructive and you are dismantling people up front and you have penetration everywhere. There's nothing you can do. Pulling doesn't work.


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[Assistant] Play action doesn't work. Running outside doesn't work. If you simplify things and you say, guys up front, all I want you to do is see if you can put your hands through that guy's shoulder pads and knock him back 15 yards. Every play.


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[Assistant] He just sacrificed himself for that play just to put me in the stands. That changes everything. Now you're taking something away. Now Christian McCaffrey got to make two or three moves because there's a guy standing right in front of him and he cuts right into another guy.


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[Assistant] He does a good job of just saying, I'm going to bet that my guys are going to play man to man coverage because I know they're good at it and my guys up front are going to be in the backfield. So it's really a point of attack. And think about it.


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[Assistant] Don't say soon as three weeks. Or, or, or do you think, do you think about it like this? If, this, this bought them some time.


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[Assistant] I think this 49ers win bought them major time because now they feel like if I can find a good enough plan and I'm Kevin Stefanski, I know what this guy is, is turnover prone. I could kind of tweak what I'm doing. Maybe they think, all right, let's go get a win against the Colts. We got the Cardinals coming up as well.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm giving away two today, three to four. All you gotta do is check out the show, watch the Browns and get the code word of the day. And I'm gonna raffle off two free t-shirts.


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[Assistant] And we've already raffled off a bunch of stuff. Look at all the winners that have won just by listening to the barbershop. Wow. We've got rally flags, we've got t-shirts, we've given out, we've given out the hoodies actually today that I'm wearing today. Who's your model there, bro? I don't recognize him. No, he's just a regular guy, regular guy. Just some dude that you photoshopped his sweatshirt over. Yeah, boom boom, right there, right there. Are you paying him? Cause is that McNutt?


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[Assistant] You want the orange sleeves. I want the orange sleeves and the orange hood. I can't do that one, but I can give you a baseball style one.


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[Assistant] That almost fills Cleveland Brown Stadium. That's crazy. I seen bull was doing crazy number. I said, Hey, bullpen got like, dang.


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[Assistant] And it was the same route, same route Goodwin caught. When he caught the ball, Goodwin kind of like was stuck in motion, you know, like just turn around and fall. Yea, that's it, that's it. David Bell comes back the next drive, he was like, oh, I suppose you did wrong. Yea. Throws the ball to him, turns around, leans over, gets the first down. It's crazy.


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[Assistant] It's cold outside. And he's out there ballin' out. And when you playin' in the wet, like you gotta understand, football is a nasty, smelly sport.


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[Assistant] He has a little more talent to make a couple of extra plays. Them plays, them throws that Walker missed in the middle of the field when he was kind of scrambling and threw the ball.


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[Assistant] Because you just meet the best teams. I think there's a, there's, there's very few trash teams in the league and I think there's a couple plays that separate really good teams and good, you know, medium teams, but any given week you can play. That's right. Especially when you got guys that are out and they need nothing.


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[Assistant] And by the way, the Browns, the Browns, when you are a great team, you're bound to get hot.


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[Assistant] Because they still have, they still, they're playing well as a team, right? But they still don't have, like, they're playing great as a team, but think about how great they play. If you, you are now getting those interceptions, you're now getting stripped sacks, you're now in Miles Garret.


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[Assistant] I think you gotta start putting the Lions in there. You're right. The Lions are 5-1. They're playing great football.


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[Assistant] And, and, and, and, and the, uh, with Nick Bosa, he kinda got home on a slide protection communication problem.


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[Assistant] It didn't, it wasn't like, it was a pass off between DeWine Jones and Wyatt Teller and he kinda just snuck in and came free. But it wasn't like he was deep beat somebody one on one and it was just like he got around the corner.


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[Assistant] It worked, they did a nice job. Back to Wibool when it was said about to ride receivers, you know, I think, uhm,


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[Assistant] I think you owe yourself when you got a special unit.


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[Assistant] I think you owe it to your whole organization that you really look and turn over every stone to try to make the offense better.


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[Assistant] Because it just continues to feed fuel to the defense by saying, look, hey, we gotta hold these guys under 10 points. Can you imagine what it feels like to be like, hey, we got 21 points this week, we got 24 points.


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[Assistant] Whole picture. Must win. It's a must win game going into Indianapolis. It's a must win. If you win that game.


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[Assistant] And you got wiggle room. You, you, you save yourself another week. You don't have to play Deshaun Watson. You may not need him. You could get a victory. You're four and two. You stay in the pecking order in the AFC North. And then you look around and say, okay, we get down to the next three games. We got the Seahawks. It's a tough game on the road.


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[Assistant] But you got the Cardinals as well. So Kevin Stefanski needs to put some games together. I think this gives his team a little more confidence because now you play the 49ers like you played, you've set a standard.


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[Assistant] You know, we gotta go to Cincinnati. There are lights out and I've seen them.


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[Assistant] 50 on the Chiefs in the last few games at the end of the year. They play their best ball going towards the end of the schedule. You look at Lamar Jackson, if he's still healthy. They had a nice game plan against the Browns. So those games are going to be tough games. So when you get a guy and they're going to give you a spot, you a couple points.


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[Assistant] Take them little Indianapolis wins, and it'd be nice not to have to have a night fight in a phone booth to get into the playoffs the last game of the year. I want a nice holiday. Listen, I want to be December 25th looking around and be like, we need, if you carry the one. We could get a home game. What? Are you serious?


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[Assistant] It is the best Monday Night Football Open ever. And by the way, speaking of ever, I think this is the most viewed, uh, UCSS show ever. It went over 4,000. I was checking it. We did.


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[Assistant] Today, for this game and moving forward, but in our post-show discussion yesterday, we decided to go big picture. Now I taped, and you'll see why in a sec, a segment this morning making the case for Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] It's a little too long to play in false, so I broke it into four parts. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna break each part, we can react to it after, you can ask questions, I have all the information.


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[Assistant] But each part's about two, two and a half minutes, and then we'll react. So are you guys ready to hear the first part? Let it rip! Steve? The cage is rock-burning.


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[Assistant] So peace and quiet, guys. Anytime I try to present you with information, a deep dive, some analytical numbers,


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[Assistant] What I have to say and then I'll let you decide for yourselves whether or not you take Brock Purdy or Deshaun Watson long term. So in the sake of pure transparency, guys on the panel, not me, you.


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[Assistant] Check your phones, I just sent you all the notes and numbers so you can follow along as we go through what we have to get to.


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[Assistant] The question today is Brock Prodigy, Sean Watson. Who would you rather have long term moving forward? And let's start with the obvious. If we're talking about ceilings,


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[Assistant] The Sean Watson ceiling is significantly higher than Brock Purdy's. I'm not quite sure that Brock Purdy can ever lead a team or play at the elite, elite level that the Sean Watson did in 2020, what Watson did in 2020.


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[Assistant] Was absurd. He carried the Texans offensively despite the fact they didn't have a tremendous record. They were just 4-12. And I don't think at the end of the day that Purdy can ever do that. He will never be the quarterback to carry an offense on his shoulders by himself.


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[Assistant] I also think it's pretty obvious that he's in a much better situation than the Sean Watson is at the moment. Purdy went into San Francisco, a team with a great head coach, a good offensive line, a running back in Christian McCaffrey who is as multifaceted and versatile as any in the league. They have weapons.


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[Assistant] And did I say they have Kyle Shanahan as opposed to the Sean Watson who is, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's stuck with David Bell and Cedric Tillman if he ever gets on the field. However, however.


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[Assistant] I'm not just gonna give Deshaun Watson a pass, because as he said in his own words, there are no excuses this season. Back in August, after the preseason game against the Commanders, Watson said, and I quote,


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[Assistant] I'm not thinking about no rust. That was last year. I missed ball. I played in six games last year and had a full off season. So I'm not thinking about no rust. I'm not using no excuses for no rust or anything like that. So if Deshaun Watson isn't going to use excuses for himself, then I'm not going to give him a pass either.


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[Assistant] And I'm also not gonna hold it against Brock Purdy for where he was drafted. That's just circumstantial, it is what it is. We can't change that. The Niner's drafted Purdy, and it's worked so far.


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[Assistant] So with that out of the way, let's get to the facts.


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[Assistant] If Brock Purdy was named Patrick Mahomes, and had been doing exactly what he's done so far this season,


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[Assistant] He'd be the front runner for MVP through five games through week five in the NFL. Purdy is first in the NFL in QBR, first in quarterback rating, second in yards per attempt, second in completion percentage, seventh in touchdown passes and eighth in passing yards. All while San Francisco has a top five running attack in the NFL.


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[Assistant] If you take the name off the resume, those stats on your screen are the frontrunner for MVP. But because he's Brock Purdy, because he's Mr. Irrelevant, we all have had to take a deep breath and say, well, is it because Purdy's good or is it because he's in the perfect system? And the answer is, it's probably a little bit of both.


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[Assistant] But let's dive into some of the basic numbers. It's really interesting because Deshaun Watson made his first start for the Cleveland Browns on December 4th, 2022 against the Houston Texans. On that exact same day,


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[Assistant] Jimmy G got hurt against Miami and Brock Purdy played two and a half, almost three full quarters against the Dolphins. So they've essentially been in their system since the exact same day. Now Purdy has played two more games. Watson missed week four against Baltimore in the bye week. So it's 11 games in this comparison as opposed to nine.


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[Assistant] But let's look at these basic numbers. Since the exact same calendar day, December 12th, 2022. Party.


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[Assistant] Is 11 and 0. Deshaun Watson is 5 and 4. Let's look at the touchdown passes. Watson's thrown 11, Purdy's thrown 22, and you may ask, and Bull, I know he's gonna ask, but what's the context? How many? Bull, I gotcha buddy, calm down.


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[Assistant] 22 is the second most in the NFL since December 4th of 2022. Behind only Kirk Cousins, he is tied with Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] For the most touchdown, for the second most touchdown passes, excuse me, in the NFL since December 4th of 2022. That's more than Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, and Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] He's also just the 10th quarterback in NFL history to throw for 20 or more touchdowns in his first 10 career starts and he is the fewest interceptions of any of those guys.


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[Assistant] So what he's done to the first ten starts of his career is not just impressive.


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[Assistant] It's historically good. Alright, let's get back to the basic stats here. Interceptions, Watson 7, Purdy 3, the fewest interceptions of any quarterback.


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[Assistant] With 200 plus passing attempts in that span.


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[Assistant] So he's thrown the second most touchdown passes and the fewest interceptions since he made his debut on December 12th.


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[Assistant] Watson's average in his nine games in Cleveland in 82.2. Purdy's lowest quarterback rating in any of his 11 regular season games.


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[Assistant] A 95.4. That is 12 points higher. His lowest single game QB rating is 12 points higher than Watson's average. He also has 8 games of the 11 with a QB rating of 100 or more. Watson in 9 games has just 2.


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[Assistant] We don't really care about rushing stats, it's kind of irrelevant, but Proteus 3 Watson S2, he also has the advantage in that.


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[Assistant] Well, let's skip then the advanced stats. If you guys want to see it, we'll post it on YouTube. Let's go to the conclusion for time purposes. Let's skip advanced stats, go right to the conclusion.


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[Assistant] There's not a single metric since these two quarterbacks took the field on December 4th, 2022 that indicates that Sean is better than Brock Purdy. There's not.


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[Assistant] And you could say, well yeaah, but Deshaun just played his best game of his Browns tenure against Tennessee. Two touchdowns, 289 yards. Yeaah, he did. And I hope we see more of that.


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[Assistant] But that was two touchdowns, 289 against a bad secondary. Purdy on Sunday Night Football just threw for four touchdowns against a top five rated secondary. A couple other things to consider. Well, Deshaun has had a full off season with his receivers, with his coaching staff, with this roster to accumulate.


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[Assistant] Purdy didn't throw a pass till the second preseason week, cause he tore his UCL and had to get Tommy John surgery after losing to the Eagles in the NFC Championship last season.


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[Assistant] And most importantly, how about results? Because this is what really matters. Since taking over the starting job.


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[Assistant] December 4th of last season, essentially when Jimmy G went out. Purdy's played in 11 games. The 49ers have scored 30 or more points.


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[Assistant] In 10 of those 11 games, including 8 straight, the one they didn't, they had 21 points.


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[Assistant] Kyle Shanahan offenses are always good. But what makes Purdy special is the level he's taken this offense to in 2023.


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[Assistant] Let's go back to the years of some of Shanahan's offenses. This season, they're averaging 33.4 points per game. Last season with Brock Purdy, 33.5 points per game. The year before in 2021,


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[Assistant] 24 points. 2020, 23.5 points per game. In the year they made the Super Bowl in 2019, they averaged 29.6. This is the most prolific we have ever seen.


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[Assistant] A Kyle Shanahan offense, and that's partly due to the weapons they have, the scheme, and the fact that Brock Purdy is playing flawless football right now. Listen, the ceiling for Purdy is not as high as the Shawn Watsons. I cannot argue that. If you switch them, yeaah. Watson on San Francisco would probably be deadly, and I don't think Purdy's as good in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] As he's in San Francisco. But what Purdy does better than any quarterback in football right now is he doesn't make mistakes, he gets the ball out on time, and he's an elite processor. I think there's a 60% chance that Shawn Watson gets back to the elite.


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[Assistant] Top tier, top three, top four level quarterback. We saw him be in 2020 with Houston. I give it a 60% chance. I think there's a 90% chance this is the floor of Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] He's getting better from last year, he's gotten better from last year to this year. He's gotten better this season, week to week.


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[Assistant] There is another level to Brock Purdy, despite the fact he may never have the unbelievable arm strength that some of the top tier quarterbacks in football have. However, if you're telling me, long term, I get this level of Brock Purdy, the perfect point guard, the Greg Maddux of the NFL right now, I'm taking that run to the bank.


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[Assistant] Because I can put a good team around Brock Purdy and maximize my playmaker's skill sets based on what Brock Purdy does best.


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[Assistant] I'm taking a 90% chance of Purdy being this good and better over a 60% chance of Deshaun Watson returning to his 2020 form. So with that, if I had to choose one or the other long term, I'm sorry Cleveland, but I'm rocking with Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, real quick, we'll bring Leroy and Leroy entering this high. If you're in the chat, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. It costs you zero dollars and zero cents, helps us out in the back end. We appreciate you guys more than you know. What's up Leroy?


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[Assistant] Going back to our topic earlier, we asked the YouTube chat. So this is the live chat who watched our first segment, Watson or Purdy. Take your pick. We had 686 votes.


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[Assistant] 55-45. I was close! That is one of the closest polls we've ever done.


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[Assistant] Alright. Also some potential inclement weather this weekend. What? What? It's supposed to be raining? It's supposed to rain from Thursday to Monday. We will talk about that later, but right now we're gonna bring in Mary Kay before we bring in Mary Kay though.


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[Assistant] We welcome in our Hall of Famer, it is Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com. Hi Mary Kay.


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[Assistant] We're going to move on to our next topic. Before we do that, I want to remind the good people out there that at 1230s on Fridays, we go from right here on YouTube to channel three WKYC for the final 30 minutes of our show. Brand new, never before seen.


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[Assistant] Brown's preview content this week, it'll be Brown's 49ers. It's been fun, the show moves at a rapid lightning pace, a little different flow than your normal YouTube.


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[Assistant] Hour and a half, two hours per day, but it's a lot of fun. Check us out on WKYC at 1230 on Fridays. Guys, week five is officially in the books.


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[Assistant] Some teams have had buys, most haven't. So I figured before we...


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[Assistant] The Browns are one of ten teams that currently have two wins. The Bengals, the Chargers, the Commanders also fall into that category, as do the Jets, Packers, Raiders, and Rams.


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[Assistant] And last but not least, Steve, you showed me the final graphic, the final two, two, one teams, the Texas and the Titans. So at those 10 teams, guys, how did the Browns stack up? I've got them right in the middle.


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[Assistant] So we just got the Browns Media schedule for tomorrow, which is a little different than it has been on Wednesdays in the past. They have open locker room at 1120.


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[Assistant] Stefanski does not speak till 1pm and they practice at 1.30pm, so we actually will not get a live update on the air from Stefanski. You may get some from the players, but no official word from Stefanski until after tomorrow's show, so.


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[Assistant] Would you rest Watson for this game? If he wasn't 100% knowing the opponent, knowing how much you need him for the rest of the season? Or is that an absurd question?


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[Assistant] We gotta get some super chats in real quick and our final fast read tomorrow night behind the glass, myself, Anthony and Earl, Talking Browns, and everything else. Last week's episode was a hit. We're gonna try running it back. Some more behind the scenes content that you guys can't find anywhere else. Make sure you retweet it, Bull. Behind the glass, make sure you retweet it. Bull showed up last week.


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[Assistant] We got three more real quick. Mary Kay said Deshaun was from M Vines. Uh, Mary Kay said Deshaun practiced inside yesterday, so he did practice. So we're making a bigger deal of this than we should be. I ain't never seen him inside.


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[Assistant] And Scooby said, if this year goes to hell and we need a new general manager, how likely would it be that we would be able to garner a top tier candidate considering, one, a bad reputation of the franchise, and two, that have to overcome caps. Also G, check your email, I sent you an email Friday.


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[Assistant] Oh, they wouldn't trade DTR for a sauce gardener.


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[Assistant] Emmett, Emmett Smith, Emmett Smith has the most yards in this league ever.


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[Assistant] And Rodgers does some incredible, Rodgers does some incredible things with a, a football. Some incredible things, but he doesn't have the success that Tom Brady has.


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[Assistant] You know, the way Tua's career started, everybody would suggest that he wasn't the guy.


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[Assistant] I think the game plan is going to be a little different. I think they're going to do things to accommodate a DGR skill set, which they should do. I think in, in, in, in, in fairness to, to Stefanski.


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[Assistant] And at any point in time, if somebody challenged that,


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[Assistant] Whether it's a teammate, another team, a coach, a media member, anybody, I took offense to that. So, Deshaun Watson doesn't have to worry about the injury.


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[Assistant] They put him in a terrible spot for, you know, them people coming out saying, oh, players were, you know, upset or kind of frustrated with Dishonma. Why? Injuries are injuries. You can't do nothing about that.


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[Assistant] These guys get banged up all year and their job is to get ready for Sunday. Now, whatever you need to do to do that, you just gotta deal with it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm more than sure they didn't have Joe Burrow running around on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to get ready for Sunday with his ankle.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you, my, I want to say my third year I hurt my knee in preseason, right? And I was out for a couple of weeks, but it was preseason. We get,


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[Assistant] You know, to, like, a week into the season.


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[Assistant] And I'm now starting to run and do things. And then I'm starting to, like before the game, go out and see if I could go. Right? Now I'ma tell you something.


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[Assistant] That some coaches just have it in their minds that they gotta do what the other team don't think they're gonna do, right? But here's the thing, this football space that I lived in,


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[Assistant] Was this 31? I'm coming in the game, come get some. We still gonna get it. Talk trash to you and go back to the other. That's where I was. Right?


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[Assistant] And how you end up surviving tough physical football games. If you go into a tough physical football game, let's keep in mind, is there any team more physical than the uh, than the 49ers? No, I haven't seen one.


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[Assistant] That's from the coaches, the players, everybody!


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[Assistant] The analytics said that the Ravens were four and a half points better than the, the, the, uh, Steelers. How'd that work out?


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[Assistant] You have a lesser chance of winning if you play outside of who you are. As simple as that.


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[Assistant] They didn't have a successful season, but he had his best, uh, season as a pro. So that means he did something right.


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[Assistant] So he'll find something. He'll find something. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I just be, back in the day I used to go to Windsor.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you a question. This is, this is, this is X-Barred. This is, this is uh, no gold. This has been outlawed for years. I mean, he would have had to come and help you. Would you have accepted a missionary spot? No!


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[Assistant] On Saturday, on Saturday, uh, on my show The Barber Shop, she came, she had Mary Kay on.


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[Assistant] When you get them, when you get them shot, that's why players be getting hooked on stuff. Like I talked to Bernie about it. And like, I remember getting a shot for my knee and being like, oh this not, this ain't nothing. I remember, I took Vicodin's, like, the whole June.


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[Assistant] But like some people, some people get it and it don't be working. But I will say with Deshaun Watson,


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[Assistant] You know, I have, with my neck, I got nerve problems, so.


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[Assistant] It don't present itself in the neck, it present itself in the trap, in the shoulder, the bicep. And if you can't get that bicep to fire, you ain't throwing no football, I don't care what's happening.


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[Assistant] That pressure, that pressure is a problem. Are you feeling it? That pressure, when you get a, like when you, when you lose, like, you know, and shout out to Whistleday, I use this again, you know, uh, Jake Burns said, listen bro, when you lose your crutch,


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[Assistant] You ain't got nothing to fall back on. Nick Chubb was the ultimate...


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[Assistant] Don't worry about it, at least we can run the football and revert to that if Deshaun looks horrible. Now, he's looking at it like...


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[Assistant] We got nothing. We got four. And if he don't do nothing, four out there, it reminded you that this Browns offense, if they, if they want to play and win games, he better be there. Cause DTR, I watched all 22. Oh, he's not ready worse than you thought. I didn't see all


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[Assistant] Best believe Deepadesta gets one.


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[Assistant] Best believe Barry gets one. Them game plans is top to bottom. That's why when people say you need to have it sink from top to bottom so you don't have no leaks. Because if you got one person who don't believe in the analytics and he just want to get out there as a coach and run the ball 36 times, then it's going to be a discrepancy.


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[Assistant] It's integration. Like you got, you integrate, like no, like they're not operating.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, are you saying that? No, no, no, I say he has to throw the ball a couple times. I went back, here's the thing. I went back and I was the only one, well at the time, I was saying, Nick Chubb, why is he getting 16 carries? Why has he got 18 carries?


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[Assistant] I had Nathan's girl on my radio show. I said, listen, I know you guys, you guys do analytics. My question to you is if you had the best running back in the game, no one can stop him. He has 120 yards and then in the second half he disappears. What are we doing? If you have Jacobi Brissetta backup quarterback, why are you throwing the ball 40 times? And he said to me, well, with the Cleveland Browns,


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[Assistant] They believe that Nick Chubb is less effective after 18 carries. I remember you brought that to us. So when I go back and chart the carries, on average, you can look at it. If he has more than 18, say 24, 26,


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[Assistant] I don't even think I've seen 26, but 24? You look at the game subsequent to that, and he has 11 carries, he has 12 carries, you're like, why is he on the bench when you could have used him?


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[Assistant] My thing is, the analytics have already told you exactly what to do.


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[Assistant] And so what you're telling me is that if you got a rookie quarterback playing the Baltimore Ravens, you probably shouldn't be going five wide in the first quarter. Matter of fact, how'd you like, how'd you like the game playing Leroy? Did you like what they did with DTR? Go ahead and tell me about that.


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[Assistant] You see, you see Leroy, you can run five wide with them. You see how they-


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[Assistant] The best one of all, listen, I went viral so many times I changed my name to him. You may go to break. What about Robbie Anderson who became Rob?


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[Assistant] Leroy, thanks brother, we'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well my wife's name is Rose. That's crazy. You got an old name!


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[Assistant] I watched the, uh, all 22. It was, it was horrible. Not good. Hoshish. Nah.


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[Assistant] Hey, by the way, I do want to say something. There was people open in this game. He was predetermined. Throws.


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[Assistant] Also, the check down to the tight end or the chip on the defensive end was, I mean, there was plays then Joku was out in the flat.


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[Assistant] I'm talking 10, 15 yards. Easy money. Easy.


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[Assistant] That, well, he ran the ball, I watched that play 70 times on all 22. 70? Where he was running the wrong end zone? Yea, yea, yea. Nick Harris and, uh, uhm, you know, your boy, Harrison Bryant was blocking. Nick Harris got his block, Harrison Bryant got stood up, kicked in the face and knocked back 14 yards.


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[Assistant] And Elijah Moore, Elijah Moore, he's not a running back, he's a receiver. Instead of him cutting the ball up and getting into the hole, Ethan Poachers had a decent block, but he eventually got beat too. But he turned around three, four times and he got a negative 30 yards. But it, it wasn't like it was just him. And got a 52 grade for that point. The Browns up front has not only rushing


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[Assistant] How many missed tackles did he have? Because if he only had like five opportunities for tackles and he missed three tackles? Yeaah. He had it.


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[Assistant] Just for me. I watched him. I heard, I seen him get beat. First of all, him and Joe Batonio.


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[Assistant] Him and Joe Bertone are horrible together with the left side. They're running basic twists and the guy's coming free. It's almost like Bertone is setting him up. He's like, no, I'm just gonna hold my man. I'm like, Joe, you have to pass that off. He's getting beat inside on, on run plays. Jadavia and Connie were just like, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.


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[Assistant] Run plays with him. There are times when there are guys open and a quarterback just needs a half a second to get rid of the football and guess what?


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[Assistant] It's him. It's one block away on an outside zone play multiple times. All you gotta do is block your man. Whose man is coming free? Him. You will never be able to run an offense.


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[Assistant] This guy at left tackle, it's that bad. Gee, I've said this a million times.


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[Assistant] Who is now her? McNuggets. Remember the Giants had that guy's flowers?


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[Assistant] Yep. We, we, Miles Garrett. This is a, this is Fire Alarm 5. Yeah. They, there were, there were six, seven times, and here's the thing too.


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[Assistant] You keep saying, alright, well Deshaun Watson's supposed to overcome this, overcome, overcome. To some degree, yes. To some degree, yeaah. But not to that degree. He already got a bad shoulder. Now, you're not going to be running the ball with the quarterback run. They can't even run the ball. He's getting beat on run plays.


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[Assistant] I wanted to say that when Leroy, when I watched the backs, the backs wasn't the problem. Like, they would be there, ready to make a cut, and it's like, it's one guy blowing an assignment. And it's, it's, it's other guys up there too, they blowing stuff.


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[Assistant] And what they're doing now is basically they're taking the center out of it. They're saying, listen, we'll put, we'll make and preoccupy the center with a defensive tackle. Then we'll isolate the left side of the field and say either a linebacker or a defensive end, we're going to run some sort of twist text or something.


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[Assistant] And every single time they're running at, it's like they don't have the communication to pass it off. And so somebody's coming free. But that's, that's one on one. That's elementary. I know how to do that and I've never played the line in my life. That's so frustrating, bro. It's just crazy.


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[Assistant] I stopped counting over 17, 15, 17 times. Oh my god. He was just open, like nobody around him in the flat ready to go.


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[Assistant] And it's very hard to, like, like, how do you quantify with DBs? It's like, especially when you don't know what the coverage is and they not really, like, when you see Troy Palamalo, you know he's, that's okay. When you see Ed Reed, you be like, oh, okay, that's Ed Reed, like, or Rodney Lodge.


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[Assistant] You cannot extend careers in football. That don't work. It's savage life.


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[Assistant] Yeah, DTR would get like a 10 from me, and- I thought he was Dorian now, we gotta be Dorian. Oh, you're like, Dorian.


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[Assistant] And if he does that, it's just an indictment on what the Guardians is. Because if you come back, we basically say, listen, I've been here in the minor leagues for, I've been coaching minor league kids.


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[Assistant] Give me an opportunity to coach somebody with some payroll so I can really flex my muscles. I'm going to take a year off, but I've never really seen it like...


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[Assistant] Like he was just a dude that just wanted to walk away into the sunset and go back to the booth. I never saw that. That's why I'm still so sorry about it. I'm like, he just obviously does not want to deal with this no more.


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[Assistant] This is a huge hire for them. This is huge. Because, you know, you got a fan base that, you know, to their credit, they manufactured some people to come down to the ballpark. Attendance was up. Attendance was up.


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[Assistant] If you get a no-name gangster ben- ben- manager, like they're sitting on the bench, that's- All those giants whooping.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I can work through this, I feel myself getting better, and then you have a setback. And, uh, you know, I kinda had that when I was playing, I had some, uh, I had tendonitis in my elbow really bad.


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[Assistant] And I'm not sure exactly what Deshaun has, but you know, I knew with the tendonitis, it was one of those things where.


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[Assistant] You know, you're obviously taking the mental reps in practice and you're watching and you're standing behind the huddle and you're, you're going through the motions and that kind of thing. But you know, it's just the game speed and you know, the preparation that you miss when you, you know, when you're at practice, when you're missing, you know, the blitz drills in practice, you're missing the red zone period, you're missing all those.


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[Assistant] Crucial moments that, uh, you know, are going to decide if you win or lose a football game. Uh, you know, so you have to be out there, you have to be practicing. It's just so difficult to sit out for a couple weeks and just roll back out there and play at this level.