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[Assistant] So there's a great case to be made. And of course, uh, Zeke pulled the old, old school Zach Crockett where he came into the one yard line and got two touchdowns and Tony Pollard, I don't think had any rushing touchdowns. Um, so, you know, just snaking those for, for his workout bonuses, but, um, or performance bonuses, excuse me. Yeah. Tony Pollard's a great football player.


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[Assistant] That's fine, I'm not gonna screw with that, but let me ask you this, so, uh,


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[Assistant] What Cowboys team are we looking at? Are we looking at the Cowboys team that just deep pants the Vikings or the Cowboys team that couldn't beat a terrible Packers team last week?


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[Assistant] I think the Patriots part might be impossible, Cowboys part I could lean in on.


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[Assistant] Someone in the comments, uh, applauded us for actually talking about the winning team first. So kudos to us for that. Um, Kellan Morrow shows to get a lot of credit and Dan Quinn should also get a lot of credit. So maybe they should do, say, Hey, we're going to give you the Jeff Saturday treatment, uh, Mike McCarthy. We're going to turn your headset off. I'm going to give you these pom poms and just sit over there and look like you're doing stuff.


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[Assistant] They're playing like, uh, elevator music and that thing and he's just sort of humming along inside his brain. Uh, oddly enough, we were painting him out to be an idiot. He went to Princeton. He's the, I mean, he's, you know, he was at one point the hide OC that turned out to be Raven.


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[Assistant] For the Vikings, this is something, I talked about this on HQ on Friday. Last year, do you know what their record was in one-score games? They played 14 one-score games. What do you think their record was?


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[Assistant] What do you think the answer is, Breech Brinson answers? Uhm, and the point differential last year was minus one over the course of the entire season. Coming into this game, they had won seven straight games by one possession in a row. Do you know what their point differential was coming into this game? Going into the game or after the game? Going into the game.


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[Assistant] So now their point differential is worse than it was last year on a team that won eight, won eight, nine, minus two. And my question that I'm getting to is, is this team just luckier than last year's team? Are they that much better?


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[Assistant] They were 8 and 9. This year they're now 8 and 2. That's my point. Are they that much better this year than last year?


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[Assistant] I agree with those things, but in terms of the overall product, I think they've gotten a lot luckier this year than last year. That's what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Well, I just mailed you the check, so I can't do anything about that. I'm gonna conserve to the guest minus 500.


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[Assistant] Britson, Britson, answer this question real quick and then you can go on. Brian J says the Vikings are a one-score game and when one-score games in its luck, Casey does it in their worship. What's your response?


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[Assistant] The good news is though, if you're a Vikings fan, Brenton told us last week that you'll be happy just getting to the playoffs. So there's, there's nothing to worry about. All right, next game.


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[Assistant] I have a little, uh, I'm gonna put this nugget, hopefully Mike McCarthy's listening to this podcast. So Mike McCarthy, here's what I would do if I were you. Brett Maher, I don't know where Brett Maher isn't the most accurate from. Let's say it's from 30 to 39 for some reason. Just take a bunch of delay game penalties, move back to the 60 and smoke it. There you go.


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[Assistant] He left with the rest of the Rams when they left the Mercedes Benz Dome.


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[Assistant] Is it worth the W-H? Would you want to be 3 and 7 right now as the Bengals if you won the Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] The first score came as seconds expired in the first half of the Justin Tucker field goal. The first touchdown came in the fourth quarter. The only thing noteworthy is that Ronald Stanley left with an ankle injury in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm just waiting for you to interrupt again and then I'll have to wait again. So Nathaniel Hackett hired Jerry Ross first.


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh. So if you're watching on YouTube, you can see fat, fat face there, car.


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[Assistant] No, I'm fine with this. It's just, you know, I get it. Derek Hart's got a fat face. That's not really him.


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[Assistant] I have a soft spot for people with receding hairlines. So, again, time number four. I'll try it again.


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett hired Jerry Rosberg earlier this season to help with the, the close plays on fork down and time management and all that stuff. And he's been sitting in the booth for, for weeks now. Uh, he gave a play calling duty before this game gave to Clint Kubiak and, um, unlike Josh McDaniel, he was not going to go anywhere.


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[Assistant] And unlike Josh McGail in that the team, Devonte Adams and Derek Carr in particular, appear to be behind him and there's some issues about the locker room with the players. And Mark Davis has a support even though he's breached notes every week. He spends more time in the principal's office than any, any, uh, coach in NFL history. McGail's a stand put.


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett got hired before the Walmart folks came in, the Waltons. This team is an absolute and utter disaster. Russ Wilson said something at the end of the game at the post game press conference about he knew it was going to be a journey coming to Denver. That's BS. He thought they were going to be winning playoff games and going to Superbowls from day one. So you can say all the sort of weird.


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[Assistant] So Breach, you can answer both questions. What kind of moron would pick the Broncos and number two? How long does this Daniel Hackett have before he joins us on this podcast?


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[Assistant] That was Patrick Surtain too, but here's what I'll say to that. You're right that the defense didn't show up, but the defenses showed up for the first 10 weeks and allowed eight points a game or whatever. At some point, the offense has to do more than score 16 points and your star quarterback has to throw more than zero touchdowns.


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[Assistant] So, you didn't answer the original question. What does Nathaniel Hackett's future look like?


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[Assistant] Uh, my loser's Joe Burrow for not scoring more points. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody, welcome to this week's podcast, CBS Sports Daily, beautiful podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I apparently have a computer Chrome problem. I'm your host, John Breach, Ryan Wilson. You already heard from them.


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[Assistant] What were you, uh, you, you're talking about breach leaving for Mexico during the, the NFL season. Vacationing is a, is a working NFL writer in Mexico during the season. Is that what you're talking about? Turns out no, it wasn't.


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[Assistant] Like literally three seconds into the podcast, right? And you die. Anywho.


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[Assistant] Smash the like button if you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six.


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[Assistant] Turn on alerts. Subscribe. You get notified when we go live after every prime time game after every Sunday night, and we will get to speaking of Mexico. That's where the 49ers are going next week. We'll get to the 49ers in a minute, but we're going to start with probably the game of the year. And you know that it's a game of the year, Wilson.


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[Assistant] When you get an alert from the CBS Sports app, everyone should download it, use it.


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[Assistant] Um, if, if you're one of, if you, if you text or DM me at any point, do you have like the Yahoo app? You're like, what's up with this score? I don't ever talk to you yet. Use the CBS sports app.


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[Assistant] John breach wrote the five craziest moments of the bills Vikings game on Sunday. And it was a great article.


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[Assistant] So, so full disclosure, just from, I mean, like I, I like to be honest with our listeners. Um, do you guys have why guides where you are? It's like a couple. No, I don't. It's a YFC activity.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's, it's called, it's called spending time with your family, being a good father, Wilson. I know you don't know about this. Yeah, I never have done any of that. Um, the point being is that they have a fall outing, uh, and you know, I don't, I mean, like look on a Sunday, I don't, I don't, I mean, I'd rather work and watch football, but I don't want to be a POS father. So when out there, I will tell you this when


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[Assistant] You know, a game has gone off the rails and we're, and we're watching on my phone, but like, you know, it's going off the rails when one, I have people like, like random dudes. I know who just saw us like standing by our, where our crew was walk by and be like, dude, did you see that? Josh and Jefferson catch. And then my dad is texting me.


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[Assistant] When my dad is texting me about a Justin Jefferson catch, you know that a game has gone bananas. So breach.


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[Assistant] In order, give us your top five moments from the Bill's Vikings game.


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[Assistant] It was like the, it was like the Odell Beckham catch, but if someone else was also trying to catch it at the same time, it had a much better leverage and position and could have like, I guess, smaller hands. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Let's say this season. Where is it ranking this season? Easily 1, right?


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[Assistant] That's really the only thing you can't do in that situation is...


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[Assistant] The way you said it was such confidence, I assume it was somebody I really liked.


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[Assistant] You know, Wilson was like, Wilson was like driving his Camaro up and down, uh,


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[Assistant] By the way, today marked the first time in NFL history where three teams


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[Assistant] And they're all from the same division too, which is wild. The Vikings, the Lions, and the Packers all won their games after trailing by 10 plus points entering the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Vikings, of course, are the Bills, Lions are the Bears, and Packers over the Cowboys. Pretty nuts.


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[Assistant] President of the PFWA, but, um, she has, he's like, why would there a replay? He goes, it was a significant distance, distance down the field. And even though it happened fast and Buffalo hurries the line of scrimmage for the next play, if the replay official can't confirm it's a catch on that long of a completed pass, we should stop playing to ensure it was a catch. In other words, he's like, I don't know what to tell you. Like it was not my fault. Then.


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[Assistant] So that she asked that there would be a booth review and then go to the league office in New York. Yes, because we were under two minutes. It has to be a booth review. It cannot be a coach's challenge.


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[Assistant] Did you get a chance to see it? We were able several plays after to look at all the angles. It would have been reversed to an incomplete pass because he did not maintain control. The ball through hit the ground and the ball touched the ground or the ball touched the ground out of bounds. But Wilson, to your point.


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[Assistant] I mean, what, what are we, this is a $14 billion business and everyone who's watching this game, you're watching your phone, you're watching from a distant point of the bar, you know what happened.


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[Assistant] College football, so like the difference to me with college and NFL, when you're watching a college game, I agree that college football games are way, way, way too long. But you, and look, some of that is the clock of the first down, stopping and all that. But you know, when there's like a questionable call.


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[Assistant] You know, you feel comfortable knowing that the officials are going to come running in waving his arms and they're going to stop the clock. They're going to look at the situation and figure it out. In the NFL, you have, again, I'm not going to go on a big tangent about this because I've done it 50 times last year.


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[Assistant] You don't know whether the NFL is going to buzz in me actually change that right now or whether they're going to be like,


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[Assistant] I'm drinking a margarita right now, so I don't really know what's going on. Like go ahead and keep playing. Like there's no consistency to it. And it's humiliating for a league that has less teams, has more money.


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[Assistant] Better officials. And not amateur. It's crazy that they can't be as good as college football.


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[Assistant] Well, and like, there's some, I'm in the comments too right now with it, but it's like, also you could, now it's a penalty for challenging a play under two minutes.


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[Assistant] But if you challenge a play under two minutes and you're like, actually, it's a penalty. They're like, uh, hold on. Uh, we have had time to review that we are, I mean, that's why I think that coaches sometimes like miss the mark. And I'm not saying this particular one, but like call a timeout.


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[Assistant] In this spot, you wouldn't want to throw the challenge flag because you would be penalized, but like if it's over two minutes, throw the challenge flag, even if it, you don't think you're going to win.


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[Assistant] But, but again, do you remember, I mean, we, we talked about this late last season, the NFL out of nowhere changed the way they operate. And on these, they only do all these island games. They never do it with these like one o'clock games where there's a bunch of like, I don't understand how whoever is sitting in New York.


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[Assistant] Working in the officiating department, they can't handle more than...


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[Assistant] Alright, what's next, Breach? What's your next topic on this game, Breach?


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[Assistant] Is that, is that historically, would it like, historically love?


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[Assistant] So your, your, your footwork changes, your mechanics change. Everything changes because you know, your ball, the ball's not traveling as fast off your, so you're not spinning as fast as you want. And so you're trying to like, you're stepping forward early. You're trying to anticipate before you should, you maybe then you start not reading the defense as well. Like it's a trickle down effect here. The last 10 quarters for Josh Allen are if,


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[Assistant] It's, it's virtually impossible not to look at the last, like you see the graphic on the screen. If you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six, hit the like button if you're watching.


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[Assistant] First six games, six turnovers. The last three games, seven turnovers. Second half of the Packers game.


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[Assistant] That disastrous L against the Jets last week. And then this debacle, Josh Allen for ten, is it ten quarters?


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[Assistant] 10 quarters has been, like, as you point out, Wilson, 2020 Josh Allen, and the Bills are not winning the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] If this is the offensive product that they are going to produce for the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] The whole, the way this Josh Allen thing, and we do need to, I mean, this is the biggest game of the year so far, right? So far, I think.


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[Assistant] We were pretty guilty of spending a lot of time on like the first game we talked about, but this game feels like it was worth it. Um, Alan, with the way the injury played out this week, it was crazy. Like it, I felt.


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[Assistant] Throughout the week that we're gonna get some really bad long-term news and they're like, actually, he's just gonna play.


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[Assistant] Minnesota has now played in, according to our crack CBS sports research department.


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[Assistant] They have played in seven, they've won seven straight games all by one possession.


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[Assistant] It's time for the longest streak of its kind in NFL history. The other team is the 2020 Chiefs.


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[Assistant] We went to Superbowl, created in 2020. It was a weird, weird year.


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[Assistant] Look, I, I don't, I, I think, I think the, I think the difference, we, we talk, we, you know, it was weird, we do talk about the Vikings every week and we mentioned this, that we like the Vikings, the Vikings are good.


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[Assistant] They play these one score games, but every one score game with the Vikings now feels a little bit more like under control or calmer, or you trust them a little bit more to find a way to finish it off. Whereas last year you're like, I have.


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[Assistant] No clue what the Vikings are going to do here, but it's going to be crazy. It's going to be like an explosive TNT detonation. And they're going to win. That's what you thought last year. Yeah.


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[Assistant] A lot of people know about this. It's one score games. One score games are generally luck based.


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[Assistant] Like, you are, you are living on the edge. Your season could go, you could have the number one overall pick or you could have the best record in football. That's just, it's a, it's an oblong.


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[Assistant] F-funkily, if you want. I mean, the point is, like, if you're, if you're involved in 14 out of 17, 14 out of 17 games or one-score games,


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[Assistant] You are a, uh, it is a very, like, you're, you're walking a tightrope. And that's, I think that's the only concern with the Vikings this year too, is that.


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[Assistant] I disagree with that only the sense that like, if, if you're a Vikings fan and you're looking at the start.


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[Assistant] And you're thinking, man, we got a great coach. We have a core, a competent quarterback. He's getting a little bit older. We can start looking at the draft for another one. We have the elite running back at Devon Cook. We have.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, let me- You just start looking for one to like come in behind Kirk Cousins in my opinion.


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[Assistant] How many losses? Let's say they lose three games and lose to 49ers in the first round. That was a coach of the year. 13 and 4. Let's say they go 13 and 4. 13 and 4 division title is a successful season.


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[Assistant] Playoff games are just like a wild card game. You get a wild card game. It's Dallas or San Francisco. Like that game could just go either way.


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[Assistant] You could have a great season and just get a bad draw in the playoffs. And that sometimes, of course, you'll be disappointed of no one's gonna be happy about it.


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[Assistant] Well, that's, that's how the playoffs went. That's how, when you play, when you play us in football, it is so random. It's the smallest sample size.


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[Assistant] No, I'm just saying that realistically, if you said here, you'll go 14 and three, you'll just get run into a hot 49ers team in the wild card round.


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[Assistant] But that's your season. I think Vikings fans would be like, well, I don't like the ending, but 14 and three sounds pretty effing good. Yeah, that's a loser.


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[Assistant] All right. Huge gap. We put half the show on.


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[Assistant] Look at us. Look at us, Jeff Saturday. He won his debut.


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[Assistant] I also think this is more about like you hire the interim guy who's like rah rah, like, like hype guy and he comes in.


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[Assistant] The dead cat balance, if you will. And how about the fact that Jim Erce stepped in several weeks ago and said, Matt Ryan's not playing for this team ever again. And Jeff Saturday is like, actually he's going to play this week, Jim.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. This is like the classic hype man. Like get amped up. Team gets, gets like fade the crap out of the Colts like moving forward in the short term.


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[Assistant] You know what would be great is if, uh,


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[Assistant] Doug Peterson hired Frank Reich as a consultant. He's under the eagles. I don't know what to talk about. Uhm, if he's what I meant, hired Frank Reich, his old boss, because he already came from the Colts, hired his old boss to be a consultant, like an offensive consultant. So he's still getting paid by J. Mercy, but he's like, actually, I bet that that actually could happen.


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[Assistant] This is a, this is a, this is an elite tweet from, uh, NFL and CBS at NFL and CBS. Jeff Saturday becomes first coach since at least 1950 to tweet that a team looks horrible and then beat them within the next two weeks after never having coached in the college or pro level before.


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[Assistant] I think, I think that, uhm, there are a lot of Colts fans. I saw this in my missions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're like, cause I tweeted out the Joe Thomas take on good morning football. And they're like, like everyone's tagging old takes exposed. They're ripping cower for his take on NFL and CBS, uh, the NFL today, excuse me, on CBS, uh, on Sunday morning. But like you can't, you can't justify.


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[Assistant] Hire a guy with no coaching experience based on one win against a really freaking terrible Raiders team. Uh, Ben Solak.


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[Assistant] He said, this is a good tweet. If the Colts win, the story will be about Jeff Saturday. What it should be about the 3-3-1 Colts pinching Matt Ryan, who is playing perfectly acceptable and at times extremely tough and impressive football for Sam Elger because ownership was impatient.


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[Assistant] They're three, dude, they're three, three and one and like in the hunt and they, and.


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[Assistant] Basically, Jim Erskine was so mad about Carson Wentz that he took it out of Matt Ryan because Frank Reich also was involved in that and then fired Frank Reich and then hired Jeff Saturday. And good. You won. Great. Congratulations. Okay.


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[Assistant] I just saw this from, uh, uh, Melanie Collins, uh, our colleagues said this on the air, apparently, um, Jeff Saturday had to give up his fantasy football team in order to be a head coach. So he turned it over to Eric Decker, who's going to manage his team.


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[Assistant] So you know, you know what, like, like if you're, if you go out and it's called shooting your age in golf and you go and like, like you're like you're 85, you go to shoot an 83, like you beat your age, right? Like that's a, it's a huge accomplishment, but Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] Ran for 39 yards, he's 37. I feel like that's kind of like shooting your age, but for football.


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[Assistant] Uh, what are the cases that we are convening in sometime in the next 72 hours to discuss Josh Rodriguez being fired? Zero.


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[Assistant] This is in the street and rolling right now. The Dolphins absolutely torched the Browns. It didn't come in the way that you would think in the sense that it wasn't like Tyree Kale for six billion yards and five touchdowns, but they won 39-17. Uh, Jeff Wilson, 17 carries 119 yards.


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[Assistant] Seven yards per carry in a touchdown. By the way, he was, uh, they added him. Oh, a week and a half ago or two weeks ago to a great game. 2532 three touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Jam waddle, decent game, tire kill, not much, but a touchdown. I mean, the Dolphins are just good.


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[Assistant] Did, did we, I bet the Dolphins to win the AFC East and I'm happy about that.


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[Assistant] Oh, did you see, did you see that like there was a, uh, I was, now I was, first of all, I haven't been crushing Tua. I was not on the list of the dude who was like holding up the sign of the game.


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[Assistant] The receipts. Yeah. The receipts. But I am on the main list. I'm pretty early up there. I'm actually between like, I think a depressing like combo that I'm between.


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[Assistant] My home is probably, this is a weird year right now. Cause Alan is falling out. Right?


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[Assistant] Like a, like a week 16, like 300 yard explosion by Tyree could, could tilt it. You think? That would help.


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[Assistant] By the way, I love that two receipts spelled Sean Payton wrong. Did Jamar Chase win the MVP last year?


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[Assistant] But offensive rookie, you're, uh, this fella named McCorkle Jones was the favorite until, uh, you got dunked on by the Bengal.


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[Assistant] So like Jimmy Garoppolo is good at couching his offense because he is a.


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[Assistant] Smart distributor of the football who plays a point guard, point guard style role. Tua is a better version of that. And that's why this is working.


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[Assistant] All four. Yeah, all four. They have the number two seed, the number five seed, the number 16, number 17, the AFC East. Ladies and gentlemen. My, my, my.


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[Assistant] That is interesting. Alright, so two questions. Just pick now, we won't hold, we won't hold anybody's feet to the fire later.


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[Assistant] One, who wins the division? Miami. And two, how many teams from that division make the playoffs? Four. Two. I'll say Miami and two.


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[Assistant] I think we're a Chargers, I think we're a Chargers Sunday Night Football win away from all four NFC East and all four AFC East teams being in the playoffs through 10 weeks of the season, which is...


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[Assistant] If the Chargers beat the 49ers, they'd be out. The Washington football team would be in. Oh, okay. That makes sense. So you see in, in football, they have the NFC and the AFC. They're two different conferences. I was trying to help you with confused listeners.


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[Assistant] Well, thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. We'll see you guys later. Uhm, let me do it next.


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[Assistant] Actually, we're going to do a little bit of a Germany talk. I love Germany.


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[Assistant] He box jumped all over your boy Eugene, sorry, Gino Smith. Is he back to Gino?


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[Assistant] You're, you're, you're going to be like, you're going to be like the, the at drill Twitter account. You're like, as Tom Brady's winning his eighth Superbowl, like I'm not owned. I'm not owned as I shrink.


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[Assistant] This would be 4-5 and then they would, who would they play? The winner of...


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[Assistant] What the three seed, which would be Seattle, who they just.


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[Assistant] By the way, Wilson, you really have completely botched this whole energy style situation. Why's that?


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[Assistant] You, before the season, you were like, the bucks are gonna stink.


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[Assistant] These blocks are minus 430 to win the division. We do not.


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[Assistant] What do you think the odds are for the 49ers or the Seahawks to win the NFC West? I have it in front of me.


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[Assistant] The ranger to host, we'll skip past them shortly.


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[Assistant] I think the 49ers are about to rip off some wins here. This is sort of what they do if they have enough healthy pieces on offense and defense.


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[Assistant] Got a little muddled because your boy, Mike McCarthy,


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[Assistant] He went down to this big overcoat, did a walk through, he's smiling. Did you see the video, did you see the video of him walking on the field at Lambert Field?


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[Assistant] He's just grinning year to year and the Cowboys jumped out to a huge lead over the Packers. And then they might McCarthy themselves.


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[Assistant] A Paramount Plus gift card to give away. I couldn't wait till Breach finished his diet about what was going on with the game. The squirrel ran across mine.


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[Assistant] Focus. So Breach continue. If you hit the like button, you're eligible to win the Paramount Plus gift card as Breach continues to talk. We have to get a certain number of likes. Go.


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[Assistant] No, but Barber will tweet this out and then like, uh, our, uh, obviously our colleague and friend of the podger do have been pointed out. Like it's so obvious that Paul was going to have this.


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[Assistant] Good game, but that wasn't like explosive and super efficient.


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[Assistant] And then Jerry's gonna be like, well, you know what, you know, you know, we got to go with our boy, Zeke Elliott. Like we go as Zeke goes. Do you? Do you?


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[Assistant] We're talking about Zeke Elliott, not Ezekiel Elliott, not my friend Zeke.


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[Assistant] Uh, Robert Thomas correctly points out, I did once give out my buddy Zeke's phone number on the podcast, which Zeke does not appreciate.


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[Assistant] I saw, I saw Zeke today, actually. He's, uh, my, my godson, Teddy. Zeke, we're in town. That was very exciting. Um, moving on. Yeah. Play off picture here. Quick play off picture. Peak in the interstate. Philly is one. Many is two. Obviously Philly has a tiebreaker over many.


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[Assistant] Seattle three at six and four Tampa fourth seed at five and five. The Giants are the sick. The is the 50 excuse me at 72 Dallas six and three is the 16 and San Fran five and four the seven seed. If you had to do a, um, pick your pick your wild card teams right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're not going to hold your feet to the fire, but like, you know, you got to pick three wild card teams in the NFC. Here we go with Breach.


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[Assistant] Alright, my wild card teams are the Dallas Cowboys, the Seattle Seahawks, and the Green Band Hackers.


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[Assistant] The Vikings are like, again, like I, I believe in the Vikings. I think the giants are a very good team, but even when you're involved in one score games, man, stuff can


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[Assistant] We already talked about it. We are going to.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, uh, both teams are three, excuse me, the Lions are three and six now. Bears are three and six.


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[Assistant] He is the first player in NFL history with two rushing touchdowns, two passing touchdowns, and a hundred plus rush yards in the game.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields also the first quarterback in NFL history with 140 plus rushing yards in back to back games. Like what, this is what drives me nuts about the Matt Nagy era. You, you really didn't.


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[Assistant] You had a chance with this first round quarterback, just design a...


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[Assistant] Like a design run offense and then let him do his thing when he's scrambling and get loose. He's a monster when he gets loose.


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[Assistant] How many players in the NFL have more rushing yards through Sunday, week, Sunday night football, week 10 than Justin Fields? Any player, not quarterback, any player.


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[Assistant] What's the answer? Yeah, yeah, you just, you just signed away your life. Uh, five is the answer. Say one leads the league in rushing.


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[Assistant] Saquon, Derek Henry, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, Damian Pierce, Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] Uh, good point by P.O.S. Moohoo. I mean, obviously a terrible person because he hasn't seen Weak in the Birdies, but uh, they're playing a lot of man.


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[Assistant] Against Justin Fields, which you just don't play man coverage against a running quarterback.


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[Assistant] If you play zone, you're facing the quarterback and he won't run and you force him to throw into your zone coverage and he'll make mistakes and he can't run.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs. Stomp the Jaguars. Talk about the quarterbacks from last year's draft.


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[Assistant] I mean, sure. Mac Jones is like the 15th best quarterback in that class, but Trevor Lawrence is at least the second best quarterback in that class.


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[Assistant] She's still flexed on him. Patrick Bahamas is great. Kandari's Tony had a big day.


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[Assistant] Travis Kelsey, very nice day as well. Uh, the Jags were headhunting in this game.


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[Assistant] There's a reason it's called both feet down.


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[Assistant] You're telling me you catch a ball and like do like a one legged hop with your right foot. Yes.


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[Assistant] I feel like Jacksonville is better than three and seven, but they're also terrible.


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[Assistant] I'm giving her, I'm giving her a free pass for last year.


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[Assistant] Look, I am, I am not going to take, again, we're, we're, we're a buck 17 under this, so we don't need to rehash this, but Trevor Lawrence's 2021 season should not be held against him. Okay.


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[Assistant] You dog, Urban Meyer, we all dog Urban Meyer. We agree he's the worst coach of higher coaching, higher of all time.


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[Assistant] You know what unit it is? You're deflecting from a coracle.


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[Assistant] You want Trevor Lars to steak so it won't, the McCorkle stench


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[Assistant] If I'm not in like the card, you know, like the, you know, trading card or like, like, like football cards are like big right now. Okay. It's a thing. I would be buying Trevor Lawrence rookie cards.


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[Assistant] I'll play someone else's ball. Go ahead. What's nice. I haven't logged in for a while. Uh, AFC playoff picture. We talk about the AFC.


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[Assistant] Buffalo, six and three in the Patriots, five and four. So I asked you guys if you were picking your AFC wild card teams right now.


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[Assistant] They, they declined a free tie and a free trip to the playoffs against the Raiders by, by, by like, like they just declined it. Cause of bad, questionable coaching, questionable coaching.


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[Assistant] I think Sean Payton wants that job in Los Angeles pretty bad. I think Pete's right on this. Sean Payton and Justin Herbert would be pretty hot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, those teams are worse, but I mean, I mean, we're not talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers at three and six. I think if I were picking right now, man, is Miami going to win this damn division? Yes. God, that's crazy. I mean, I bet it.


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[Assistant] Miami winning the AFC East. Are you going to donate half the proceeds? Before it was like, this is our division. After 20 years of just Bill Belichick, like raining hellfire down on everyone. And then Miami is like, actually it's our division would be crazy. I think I would, I think the Bengals would make the playoffs for sure.


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[Assistant] I mean, I am, like, I don't want to get torched for having bad takes on Jeff Saturday, but I'm willing to get torched if it means Mike Florio has to get a colt horseshoe on his ass.


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[Assistant] I do think it's, it's interesting to note the strength of victory here in terms of winning percentage. Like the bills, everyone's like panicking about the bills and, and yeah, we spent 30 minutes talking about them. 527 winning percentage.


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[Assistant] Like in terms of the strength of victory, like the Josh Allen elbow injury, of course, like changes everything about this AFC playoff race. I mean, I just don't know. I'm trying to figure out, like, I think, I think the Bengals can jump in. I think the Jets maybe fall out.


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[Assistant] Wilson, tell me something interesting about Saint Steelers. I didn't realize that game happened today.


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[Assistant] Your fun fact for Texas Giants, the Giants are the first team in NFL history to start 72 or better.


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[Assistant] All of their wins coming by one score. This team...


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[Assistant] Is the replica of the first year, remember when the Bills made the playoffs and like, uh, our buddy, um, how was his name? He went to law school. The hyphen is his last name. I can't remember. Anyway, um, he complained when, uh, the Sean McDermott benched Tyron Taylor for Nathan Peterman.


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[Assistant] This is the replica of that first year of Sean McDermott Bills team. The Giants are. They beat the Texans. They move on. So Cardinals Rams, who wants to provide a fun fact for this?


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[Assistant] W-w-week 11? I would say the over-under for Matthew Stafford being shut down for the year. 11, week 11 and a half.


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[Assistant] Sean McVey will be, there will be so many profiles of Sean McVey this offseason.


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[Assistant] He's rejuvenated, rededicating himself, et cetera, et cetera. Breach. Again, another team I didn't realize played today. You're a Super Bowl winner before the season. The Denver Broncos played your hometown team, the Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] All of them. So the progress touchdown was a 68 or touchdown pass in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] Is that a real word? Is that a pre-church? It's something about a verb. You go kaput.


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[Assistant] I was having neither one of us that say anything until Breech tried to correct it. Um, right. Winners, losers. One each. Let's go. Uh, Breech, you can start. Kaput is all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good call. Oh man. Uh, I was going to, I was debating between, um, Dan the man Campbell, but I think I would go with Tua Tuga Paloa.


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[Assistant] That never blows up in your face. Never never backfires at all. Uhm, Jeff Saturday's a good one though. Breach your loser. Yeah, I'm going to go with Mike McCarthy. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That the video is he's just he's up 14. It's just such a bad. Do you think he bought a new jacket or do you think he still had that from his days in Dallas?


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[Assistant] I think I would bet a lot of money that that camel hair jacket that he wore to the game was like the one he wore into the Super Bowl or like some big game in Green Bay. It's like a memorable jacket. That's right. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's all we can, sorry. Okay, fair enough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no. No, I'm asking you. It's like, hey, Wilson, what are the odds to win the ACS?


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[Assistant] What is the record of the 49ers since they traded for Christian McCaffrey?


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[Assistant] I think McCaffrey makes the offense better. And the 49ers are going to be a problem the rest of the season. Okay.


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[Assistant] There's no chance they're under 15 to 1, or they're over 15 to 1.


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[Assistant] And like, like everyone agrees that Niners are about to rip off a stretch of wins. There are minus 220 to win the division.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, they're actually one, uh, two in one. There you go.


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[Assistant] I, I think, I, well see, I feel like, I feel like we talked about the Chargers because we were discussing the wild card conversation. Like, they're gonna, if they miss the playoffs, Brandon Staley has to be fired.


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[Assistant] Organizational issue. I agree with that. Yeah, he's not the trainer.


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[Assistant] Are you stealing Stan? What's going on here? Sean Payton's taking over this team. I'm with Prisco. Sean Payton's taking over this team next year.


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[Assistant] I think so Peyton is going to be like, hey, I will come coach this team and we will win a bunch of games and they will say deal. Bye Brandon.


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[Assistant] They were trying to get Tyron ready for a start over Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] Actually jabbed him in the lungs. He couldn't play. So like, well, Justin, go play the chiefs. And Herbert went nuts. They're, they're not even accidental geniuses. They're actual idiots. That'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Oh, actually, you know what? Yeah, we're good.


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[Assistant] Well, much like the Hall of Fame in which the Wilburnson Hall of Fame everyone gets in, you can come up with a scenario where every game is a revenge game.


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[Assistant] So, Brinson, before we get into the details, give me the revenge.


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[Assistant] You're like the guy who can do like party tricks, but your party trick isn't like magic. It's like, uh, ask me, give me any two teams that can give you the revenge angle for those two teams.


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[Assistant] I think they had to run the football because the offensive line was in a state of disrepair.


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[Assistant] There were no wide receivers to throw the ball to. They didn't have Alan Lazard or Randall Copp to start. Christian Watson got hurt on the first series. Sammy Watkins was in and out of there. You're throwing touchdown passes to Samari Touré. Uh, Breece, you know where Samari Touré went to school and when he was drafted?


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[Assistant] So that's, that's who we're targeting at this point in the proceedings. I will say this and Breach, we talk about this frequently when it comes to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers did not give up in the second half and Matt LaFleur came out at halftime and seemed very fired up during his halftime conversation with the, with the broadcast.


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[Assistant] And they sort of played like that. That said, I think Princeton's exactly right. The bill said, you know what, this is like, um, when you're playing high school basketball and you're the best team in the state and you're playing the worst team in the state and you're up by 800 points at halftime and you're just doing like the Harlem Globetrotters, hooky dooky stuff for the final 20 minutes just to see what you could do. That's how Josh Allen felt like in terms of some of those throws he was making.


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[Assistant] That throw was a terrible, that was a Josh Allen 2018 throw, but that was a relatively easy Josh Allen throw that he over, he missed by a large margin.


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[Assistant] On a scale of 1 to a million, my concern level with the bills is at 1. Maybe .8. Because as Breach notes, if they're playing the Chiefs,


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[Assistant] Or the Eagles in a Super Bowl or whatever. You ain't seeing that second half from Buffalo. You're seeing pedal to the metal. And also, as I noted, all the Packers could do was run the ball. So they got a lot of yards running the ball in the second half. End of the day, it didn't really matter. Some mistakes by Josh Yellen, of course. But Breach, where's your concern level on a scale of one to a million?


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's nothing to take away from that game other than the Packers are in a bad way.


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[Assistant] One in the most black people way possible, we'll talk about that later. Uh, but again, I don't-


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[Assistant] The reason I have no concerns about the Bills is because the Packers could only do one thing, run the ball, because the offensive line is in shambles even though David Bakhtiari was back. Aaron Jones went off, but you have no one to throw, literally no one to throw the ball to.


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[Assistant] And that's just reality. But like I said, credit to Aaron Rodgers for not throwing in the towel, which he has done before when this team is down and battling, but it's just not enough.


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[Assistant] I have a theory that's going to be a recurring theme in this podcast and I'll bring it up now. So Josh Allen, 2018, 2019, he looked like a rookie and a first year player. And then they got Stefan Diggs and the switch sort of flipped in terms of his progress, perhaps coincidental, perhaps not. But if you look around the league, Tua and Tyreek and Jalen,


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[Assistant] Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devonta Smith. And then you come to the Packers, Aaron Rodgers, and literally nobody. Devonta Smith, uh, Devonta Adams left, and they refused to draft wide receivers. And my sort of, what's the, what's the word, uh, galaxy brain theory is,


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[Assistant] You can have a franchise quarterback, but you might be better off with a really good quarterback and a bunch of skill position players that can help him. Aaron Rodgers does not have that and he can't make these plays by himself. And as you noted, Brent's in the two minute office didn't work cause these guys been running plays on that offense for 15 minutes and you have to lean on the running game. So I don't think they're out of it because I don't trust the Vikings.


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[Assistant] But I also think this is the worst Packers team. I don't remember the last time the Packers were this bad.


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[Assistant] Just quickly, they compounded the problem by taking Jordan Love straight up in the first round to get a quarterback in the deepest wide receiver class ever. So I think at some point you got to do something differently and not take draft players at the position where your franchise player currently sits, right?


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[Assistant] By the way, shout out to Tyler Ross in the comments. Ryan Wilson's voice screams Dungeons and Dragons.


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[Assistant] That's exactly what BMAC said, uh, during the, uh, the post game show, the post 4pm games today on HQ. And I said, BMAC, you need to have the disclaimer that your cousin plays for the Vikings.


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[Assistant] My only concern, he said, Ryan, they have six wins. I said, I get that. My only concern is that-


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[Assistant] My only concern is that this feels like...


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[Assistant] 95% of this game felt like the Vikings except they won it because they get out to an early lead.


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[Assistant] They, you know, dilly dally around, let the other, not very good team get back into it, try to give the game away, but the other team is so bad that they can't do that properly. And instead of, in the Mike Zimmer era, losing the game in an inexplicable fashion, they actually won.


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[Assistant] I just don't know if that's sustainable. Like I like the new coach. I like the new GM. I like the offense. Justin Jefferson is fantastic. Pat P actually said after the game, he played harder because of the disrespect he got from the Cardinals on his way out of town.


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[Assistant] But I'm just concerned. Are they getting better? Are they stagnating in terms of the way they play from minute 1 to minute 60? Are you guys less concerned than I am about this?


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[Assistant] Absolutely. And here's my, my issue. Don't get me wrong. They're not gonna make the play, they are gonna definitely make the playoffs. My issue I didn't even mention is Kirby Cousins. Like is he gonna be, which Kirby Cousins is gonna show up? That's all I'm asking.


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[Assistant] Quickly, I should add this name to the list. Kirk Cousins is a beneficiary of having Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson. Another example of how really, really good wide receivers can help an above average quarterback, but not an elite quarterback. Although some people maybe think that Kirk's elite.


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[Assistant] And I'm thinking long term. In the near term, they're, they're second best team. That's fine.


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[Assistant] Kirk has like a, he has like a travel van.


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[Assistant] Here's the question that I wrote down. How long are we gonna watch this Arizona offense under Chief? That was my question after watching this.


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[Assistant] So, I'll ask every week until you guys change your minds or until something actually happens. Is Clipkings Berry getting fired this year?


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[Assistant] Breach, have you changed your tune, or are you still buying into the game?


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[Assistant] I don't get why you keep saying like the guy's not getting fired. I mean, he's... And Steve Keim...


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[Assistant] Who I don't know, but based on his actions as general manager, feels like he's in CYA mode.


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[Assistant] My point is that if it's me or him, it's gonna be him if I'm Steve Cahn. That's my point.


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[Assistant] I mean, it doesn't matter who the GM is. I was just wondering what you were going to say. Like I'm talking to my wife here. She's trying to give me the details of something that irrelevant to the story. I can only do that one person in my life. So you're my cliff Kingsbury. You're getting the axe.


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[Assistant] Billy, put your clothes on and come talk about your Eagles. Oh, there you are. Good job getting your shirt back on real quick.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Jalen has 6 touchdown passes coming into this game, he now has 10. Uh, some fun facts.


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[Assistant] Yikes. This was such an ass whooping that Gardner mentioned she was playing with 10 minutes ago in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] And here's the good thing, if you're, like, again, we talked about this with Deebo back in the day when he would talk to us, but he was out on Nick Sariani over the first month and a half of the season last year. And now these guys, they're going to build a statue next to Rocky for Nick Sariani. They love this guy so much.


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[Assistant] You know, smart and also fortuitous that you're playing this super crappy Steelers team. You play on Thursday night if you're the Eagles.


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[Assistant] You basically had to buy because you said all your best starters after 45 minutes of some half ass football, you weren't even trying that they're whipping up on these, these clowns. So great news for your starters who have to play on Thursday, they'll be better rested. Um, you know, AJ Brown did three wind sprints and caught a couple of touchdowns. You take him out.


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[Assistant] Jason Kelsey, Jason Kelsey cared so little about this game that he was wearing a Batman mask on the sidelines, like he thought he was trick-or-treating.


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[Assistant] He looked like Mr. Kelsey. He had like a Doug Peterson hairdo with the visor on and sort of the butt cut. I like that. Um, yeah, so there are a lot of things to be thankful for prior to Thanksgiving and with Helen around the corner for an Eagles fan. Jalen Hurts is 10-0 in his last 10 regular season starts.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which is a franchise record. And this is how bad this dealer's defense is. Forget about the offense, which one of the first things I wrote down. Matt Canada still sucks. But one of the things about the defense is


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[Assistant] I'm exhausted from doing all those sprints up and down the field. So the Eagles, so here's a question I ask and you can laugh or you can try to think of seriously. Are the Eagles the best team in the NFL?


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[Assistant] If the Eagles played tomorrow on a neutral field, I would pick still. What would the line be? Minus three and a half?


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[Assistant] Do you know the saddest part of that play? So right, they were first and they were something in goal at the two yard line. They run it in and around with Chase Claypool who's left handed. He throws a touchdown pass to the Watt brother that no one knows, Derek Watt, who's a fullback.


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[Assistant] I yell about this every single week to the, I mean, this, this one angers me more than anything. Like, I don't care that they're bad, you know, the Steelers had a great run of success and Kenny Pickett has a lot to prove. He does some things, he's like, okay, I can see that, but he has been set up to fail each and every play by this


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[Assistant] Guy calling place. He is not helping and I don't know if...


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[Assistant] I'll say this, like, you know how we were dunking on Matt Carroll? Matt Carroll. Pete Carroll for the longest time about, oh, Russ Wilson isn't being allowed to cook. Turns out Pete Carroll was right. I cannot envision a situation where Mike Tomlin is right.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing, so they're on their bike, and this is the time that we fire people, is what the conversation we usually have, right? Uhm, but Tomlin...


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[Assistant] Guessing, I'm guessing based on his press conferences each week, feels like he's stubborn about the media dictating what he should and shouldn't do and he's...


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[Assistant] He's probably thinking, well, you're thinking Breach, like, look, I can stick with Matt Canada and we can win three football games, or I can fire Matt Canada, or we can win three football games. So let me not give the media what they want and still suck. And then at the end of the season, move on. But Matt Canada sucked last year with Big Ben.


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[Assistant] And he's worse when he doesn't have a Hall of Fame quarterback. So there are no easy fixes.


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[Assistant] I don't like watching the same three play calls each and every game, but that's where we're at and, you know, we just gotta deal with it.


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[Assistant] On the Thursday night pod, who predicted the Saints to win the division from here on out?


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[Assistant] So a couple things I wrote down. Don't sleep on one PM, Andy Dalton. We can all agree on that, but I also noted that, uh, someone on Twitter put this out. Devante and, uh, Renfro combined for two catches for nine yards is unacceptable. I've been making excuses for Josh Allen each, uh, Josh Allen, Joshua Daniels each and every week and Derek Carr by extension.


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[Assistant] Are we at the point where Josh McDaniels is not fitting the system to the players and then trying to fit the players to the system and it's just not working? Should we now include Derek Carr in the conversation of


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[Assistant] I'm asking about Joshua Gales. I don't know. I'm not- That's my answer to that.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing. Like you can't go one and done on them in theory, but if the, uh, the owner who has a bowl cut and loves to crush chicken wings a second time away from, from the barber shop and the chicken wing shop to have meetings with his.


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[Assistant] P.F. Chang's to meet with the coach who's underachieving.


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[Assistant] That's a concern. And I, like, I think that I'm all out of making excuses for Joshua Daniels because while he seems like a different coach than when he was in Denver, where he seemed sort of arrogant and know it all and he feels, feels like he's learned from that experience. This team sucks. Like there's no other way around it.


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[Assistant] And you can say, listen, Josh McDaniels, this isn't his defense. This is his offense. They have Devontae Adams. Derek Carr is a good quarterback. I mean, if Rick, if Rick Masacci can get the most out of Derek Carr, Josh McDaniels doesn't have an excuse. So I don't know what to make of this train, Rick.


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[Assistant] I still think they're better than the Cardinals, but that, that's it. And maybe the, they might still, still be the second best team in the, in uhm, no, the third best team in the division, but they're better than the Cardinals in terms of the...


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[Assistant] I think you put too much, there's a lot of truth to that, but I think at some point you get tired of losing and get tired. And these, here's the thing, like owners, GMs, coaches, scouts, everyone, they,


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[Assistant] Read too, way too much news and they put way too much stock in it more than, like, we sort of understand a lot of this just nonsense.


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[Assistant] And I think at some point you get tired of being the butt of the joke and you're willing to eat the salary if it means getting better. That's the whole reason that he made Jack Mc- uh, Jack McDaniel. Jack Del Rio stand up and say, I gotta fire myself cause we're gonna hire John Gruden to fix this. Meanwhile, even the-


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[Assistant] Can I ask a question at the, at the stop, at the start? So, uh, Breach, I'll ask you, cause you look really smart wearing those stupid ears.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco was not active for this game. Mike White was. After the game, Robert Salas said that Mike White will be the number two going forward. Should Zach get injured, Mike White would be the guy. Uhm.


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[Assistant] When are we going to talk about putting Zach Wilson on the bench for just being a terrible quarterback because holy crap, he looked like dog dookie on a hot summer's day in North Carolina. I mean, this was hard to watch. Some of the, those interceptions.


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[Assistant] Made Mac Jones look like Tom Brady in his prime. And I think there has to be a conversation about how long are we going to put up with this? Because as I say all the time, this is the 2010 Jets where running game defense, um, Bryce Hall is obviously hurt for the season, which is bad news. The defense is still good.


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[Assistant] But you can't have Zach Wilson out there doing the things that Zach Wilson did, and you must be thinking about a plan B.


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[Assistant] Okay. No, I agree with that. I think he did not look great at all. Brenton?


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[Assistant] Who's he? Is he calling out the receivers or is he saying he's not patient enough to throw the ball?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's, that's not great because those interceptions were, were mind-bendingly terrible. Like, they were arm punts of the most arm punny variety.


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[Assistant] It's a throw that you make at the end of a game when there's one second left or you're down by 40.


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[Assistant] I don't know what in God's name he could be thinking other than what you just laid out there. And listen, here's the thing. Matt Jones did not play well. If you look at his stat line, it looks okay. He has some interceptions that were brought back because of a late hit on John Franklin Myers, which was questionable. Um, and, but he did not make a lot of good throws.


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[Assistant] But the difference is, at least last week, he got benched for Bailey Zappi. It feels like...


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[Assistant] Mike White is not far away from seeing the field because


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[Assistant] This team, the Jets have overachieved. They're right in the mix. They're in the playoffs. And you cannot have your quarterback.


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[Assistant] Torpedo everything on a team that's built around defense and the running game. That is, I don't know how you fix that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I just mentioned that John Franklin Meyer said that was questionable.


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson from throwing two terrible interceptions later. I mean, fair enough, I get it.


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[Assistant] And Robert Sala was, I thought he was going to fight somebody on the sidelines. He was so angry with some of these calls and I get it. Understand a hundred percent. That doesn't mean Zach Wilson go out there and play hero ball and just throw some of the worst interceptions you've ever seen.


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[Assistant] By the way, quickly, the, the interception you were talking about, uh, that wasn't the pick six for Mack Jones's callback because of the John Franklin Myers roughing in quotation marks. Half of the second quarter, the Patriots went on a 16-0 run after that. Uh, also worth noting, Wilson in three games against the Patriots, one touchdown, seven interceptions. So.


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[Assistant] This has been sort of a thing. By the way, uh, one thing quickly.


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[Assistant] He tweeted this out and I saw this, I thought it was hysterical. Zach Wilson is like if Patrick Mahomes played every game blackout drunk. That's exactly how he played this game. It's like if Patrick Mahomes beer bong, 50 beers that went out and just said, I'm going to wing it and whatever happens happens. And that's what that looks like.


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[Assistant] Yep, 14-0. Five minutes in the first quarter, 21-7 in the second quarter.


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[Assistant] So Tyreek Hill, this is his fourth game with 160 or more receiving yards. It's crazy.


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[Assistant] 5'11", maybe? There's no way 6 feet. He might be even 5'10", I don't know.


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[Assistant] He wins every single contested catch, every single jump ball, every single time. It is incredible.


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[Assistant] How good he is. And again, this goes back to my new theory. Have a good...


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[Assistant] Two is a really good quarterback and you could argue that he's giving Justin Herbert run for his money in that draft class. I think that unfortunately Joe Burrow remains the number one unquestionably breach in that draft class. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Tua was fifth overall, and we were like, eh, you should have took Justin Herbert. Maybe they should have took Tua.


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[Assistant] So for people listening, Pete Prisco on March 23rd, 2022 tweeted out, presumably shortly after the Dolphins traded for Tyreek, Pete says, Hill won't make two a good either.


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[Assistant] No, you know what? He will make him great. Cause that's exactly what's happening.


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[Assistant] I'll say this, like when Tua is in trouble, he will throw a jump ball. In the worst case, it's an arm punt interception, which rarely happens. Also, Tua throws with better anticipation probably than 95% or higher of the quarterbacks in the NFL. It is insanely


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[Assistant] Amazing how good he is at throwing, making anticipation throws. And it happens each and every week, and he's accurate on top of it. So, one of the knocks at tool coming out was that he didn't process very well.


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[Assistant] I have no, he may be the dumbest person on planet earth, he is one of the best quarterbacks on planet earth given the way he plays. And a credit to him, and a credit to him by the way for sliding today after last Sunday night's game where he took two stupid hits by trying to-


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[Assistant] Particular about sliding, like I'm a great pop-up slider. That's something you just practice. It takes 15 minutes to know how to do it.


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[Assistant] Alright, let me ask you this about the Lions. What's the bigger issue? Fixing the defense? Oh God, Aaron Glenn, I want you to keep your job so bad, but it's not looking good. Or getting a quarterback. Cause it feels like Jared Goff actually isn't the problem, but they're going to have a high pick it looks like. And are you going to focus on the defense?


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask you this. Uh, I don't know how much college football you guys have been watching outside of NC State, but, uh, Jalen Carter, you know Jalen Carter from Georgia? Number 88. He's, he's like,


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[Assistant] He's, you know, he's better than any of the Georgia players that came out last year in defense. So, you know, everyone knows Willie Anderson. So would you rather have Willie Anderson opposite Aiden Hutchinson, for example, or Jalen Carter in the middle of that defense who's going to be looking a game record? Or would you rather have any of the quarterbacks if you're the Lions?


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[Assistant] Breach is a fan of a team that's been historically bad. How long do you stick with Dan Campbell? Who actually liked him?


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[Assistant] But, Tabreej, I got distracted by your fake real hair, but your point is-


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[Assistant] The Lions fired Jim Colwell for going 36 and 28 since then. They played 70 games since then. How many games have they won of those 70 games since firing Matt Patricia? Or Jim Colwell, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Who is more responsible for the loss? Eddie Pinheiro or uhm, who took his helmet off? DJ Moore?


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[Assistant] Breach, uh, what are wins over breach off the top of your head? What are the chances that a NFL field goal kicker makes it 48 yarder?


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[Assistant] So after the game, here's what he said. It hurts. I love this team and I know they've got my back and I know it's not going to define me as a kicker. Everyone misses kicks. Unfortunately, my time was today. I'm going to bounce back and be ready to kick. Breach. Is he going to bounce back with the Panthers or is he going to bounce back somewhere else?


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[Assistant] So, I said this when Steve Wilkes was named interim coach, he could go undefeated. He's not getting this job. He's not getting this job, right? This team is playing a lot better. Steve Wilkes is not getting this job. Right, exactly.


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[Assistant] He is not getting, he, they can go undefeated. They can't now, but they can go whatever one. He is not getting this job.


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[Assistant] This is the Mark Davis syndrome, where Rick Versace gets his team to the playoffs. I gotta get Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] Breach's Super Bowl champ, back alive. Let me, let me start by saying this. I'll start with you, Breach, cause I know Brynston's answer. How concerned should we be about Trevor Lawrence?


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[Assistant] Cause he, that end zone interception, that's some Zach Wilson level stupidity.


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[Assistant] And he has to play better. And I know he can. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] A lot better. That'll be three or four years from now. And I think Brent's is right, like nothing's gonna happen this year.


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[Assistant] Right now, but I think Breach is talking about like for like, like the same point in his career, where were the two quarterbacks, Jared Goff and Trevor Long?


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, of course, but we, he could very, I'd say that's probably 65%, but there's a 25% chance he's worse than Jerry Goff and there's whatever the other math is in between that, 15%, 10%, that he is Jerry Goff. That's the only thing.


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[Assistant] I think we all agree, but Jared, I mean, um, Trevor Lawrence has to play better wherever he is in his journey. The mistakes in this game were unacceptable. Like you can't play worse than Russ Wilson.


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[Assistant] They're DVOA prior to this week. I haven't checked this week. They were like a top 12 team.


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[Assistant] And they had two wins, and they still have two wins after this loss, but, uh, they have been underachieving, uh, by a margin that is no word.


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[Assistant] Let me start, before you keep going, let me apologize, because the CMAX trade apparently appears to be a home run.


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[Assistant] That's a former went off of the Panthers, but CMAC can score in any way imaginable. I appreciate your.


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[Assistant] Breach, I'll start with you and then Preston, you can follow. I think you know what I'm going to say. Jimmy Garoppolo is on a one-year deal.


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[Assistant] Who is the 49ers quarterback to start the 2023 season?


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[Assistant] Okay, Britson, what do you think?


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[Assistant] Jimmy is still in my Kirk Cousins basket. Like I don't love him. I think he's good. He's not great.


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[Assistant] So are the, uh, are the ramps done because of injuries in the offensive line and the running game? And it feels like there's, it's, it's


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[Assistant] This is over. This is already over. I, I think this team has too many obstacles to overcome. I mean... I don't, I don't, I don't think this is... You're the third best team in the division.


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[Assistant] I feel like, I feel like Breach has the Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber haircut as we sit here watching him in those rabbit ears.


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[Assistant] It is weird that Brenton loves leaning into being, uh, like being a troll and like leaning into people like, like Bears fans hated him and Dolphins fans hated him, but he is so unbelievably optimistic about the Hall of Fame, playoff chances, revenge bets, like it's, it's a weird dichotomy.


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[Assistant] But the thing you have to say is, like, how are they gonna fix their...


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[Assistant] Tom, Mike Townsend never lost more than he won. Guess what? That's a changing.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, Brenton. Do you know how far air yards, Wilson air yards, Christian McCaffrey through his touchdown pass? Was it more or less than breach yards, which is 40? Uh, I think it was 34.


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[Assistant] I counted, Wilson counted 38, but so Breach can throw the ball farther than Christian McCaffrey did on his touchdown throw, which I find impossible to believe.


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[Assistant] There are buddy Joe Musso's in the chat and says, gentlemen, it's been a privilege playing with you tonight. Will Brinson. What does that mean?


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[Assistant] He's done a 180, maybe 360, I don't know. I think it's a 720.


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[Assistant] I can't get over how good Geno Smith is. And Tyler Lockett dropped the touchdown pass. It hit him right in the hands before he caught another one a few, uh, a few minutes later. So he could have had an extra touchdown pass.


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[Assistant] This is when the draft used to be at Radio City Music Hall. Yep. And he was so angry that he wasn't a first round pick that he said, peace out. And then the Jets took him in round two. And Mark Sanchez at least-


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[Assistant] I said two weeks ago and Billy made a YouTube shorts that I said that Eugene Cyril third should be MVP and people were laughing at me.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny about this new fangled slash old-fangled Seahawks offense? Is that now that Russ is gone,


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[Assistant] Pete Carroll lets Gino cook. And by that, I mean, they go for it on fourth down.


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[Assistant] Gino was 23 or 34, so he threw the ball 34 times. They ran the ball 25 times.


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[Assistant] The biggest complaint from Seahawks fans and the rest of us is that Russ wasn't allowed to do those sorts of things, but I think for instance, I think you're actually onto something. I don't think Pete Carroll is being vindictive. I think he's like, okay, I can trust this guy. And again,


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[Assistant] It just goes to show that a lot of times we don't know what we're talking about. Like when we're pointing fingers at guys like Pete Carroll and John Schneider for not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Abe Lucas, Abe Lucas might have been a day two pick, the right tackle out of Washington State. And then of course they got Tariq Wolin who was a converted wide receiver who ran a flick of 4-2 something and doesn't have a lot of experience, but he is a long Richard Sherman


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[Assistant] But we, the whole time we said get Russ an offensive line, they get rid of Russ and then they get an offensive line for Gino and he's the beneficiary of that for sure.


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[Assistant] Uh, quickly, Richie James cost the Giants this game. He fumbled two, muffed two fumbles. He, hopefully he's okay. He was concussed in the second one. Whether he was concussed or not, you just act like you're hurt so they can take you off the field on the cart and you don't have to face the wrath of fans who are angry at you.


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[Assistant] But you can't turn the ball over on two month punts though.


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[Assistant] They're both great and I like them both. Uh, the funniest thing for me in this game was, uh, like I mentioned, Mark Sanchez was calling the game and Jason Meyer had the one of the field goals partially blocked, but it was a knuckleball breach. I don't know if you saw that and he sort of hit the back upright, the back support.


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[Assistant] Stanchion, thank you. And, uh, Stanchion said, that looked like a knuckleball, like from Chuck Knobloch. And I'm like, I said, wait a second, Chuck Knobloch had trouble throwing the ball at first. Chuck Knobloch was a second baseman. They came back from break and he says, I met Tim Wakefield. Sorry.


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[Assistant] Thank you for letting, having design runs for, for Justin. Do you have a five second statement breach or no?


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[Assistant] I have a question. Is Carson Wentz better than Taylor Heinecke? No. That's what I said before the season.


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[Assistant] Not even close. Breach, are you encouraged by that trade? Are you encouraged by Sam Ellinger Breach?


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[Assistant] One thousand percent. This is so weird. It's for people, I mean obviously you all know Jeff Saturday either from TV or when he was on the offensive line for the Indianapolis Colts of Peyton Manning and all that.


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[Assistant] If you don't know anything other than he's just been on TV and he's a former NFL player, that's because you're right. He really has no coaching experience. I was just talking about this with Billy beforehand. It's not like he went back to North Carolina and was coaching on the staff and working on the offensive line. This dude was coaching prep school.


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[Assistant] Pretty bananas. And you look at all their insiders, whether it be our own Jonathan Jones or just go down the list. They're talking to a lot of these people across the league. Everybody's jaws on the floor. Nobody saw.


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[Assistant] You see, my, my question was, and I was talking about it with Billy beforehand, was the only thing that I, I knew that that was the case, but I didn't know if that only meant if you were elevating from inside the staff. Like if they went for Gus Bradley, then you don't have to go through the Rooney rule, but if you're doing an outside-


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[Assistant] And so, just to give it more context, what you were saying with, with her saying all of that, Schechter had a follow-up tweet from when he broke the story and said that Saturday was in Indianapolis last weekend with a group of former teammates. They were celebrating an induction of the cult ring of honor. They were, you know, doing all that. You have to believe


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[Assistant] That Ursay was talking with Saturday, probably liked what he was saying, probably just asking his opinion about the team and Ursay was what? Hey.


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[Assistant] Start Monday. I mean that's kind of what it feels like, right? Like he must have just left an impression about how he was viewing the team.


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[Assistant] I don't think that they were planning on firing Frank Reich and like this is some sort of like two week long process. It feels a little bit more reactionary to me in terms of how this thing came about.


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[Assistant] But also, but it is interesting that like last weekend he was at the Colts facility celebrating a ring of honor inductee and then all of a sudden a few weeks later after what you would assume it would be at least one or two conversations with her say, whether it be just generalities about the team or specifically about possibly taking over, he's now the head coach.


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[Assistant] Is this obviously, you know, I guess if it works out, then they'll remove the interim tag and he'll be the head coach going into 2023, I guess, if they somehow go on a run. But do you think that this could also be?


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[Assistant] In the eyes of Ursay, yes, you're going to coach the team, but also I kind of want you to run like an internal review of just how this whole thing is operating, whether it's Chris Ballard, all the coaches, just kind of give me also a rundown of how we're structured organizationally and maybe then you rip it down.


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[Assistant] I know, it's crazy. But this is the other thing too that I think we have to kinda key in here.


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[Assistant] When we talk about the culture of 2022 and you're, you're, you're asking about whether or not, you know, so Ellinger is going to play or Matt Ryan, they don't have somebody that's going to call offensive plays. They fired their offensive coordinator and Marcus Brady a couple of weeks ago. And Frank Reich was assuming those play college.


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[Assistant] You, that's a normal thing that happens in the NFL. Now you're down two play callers losing Brady and now Frank Reich and you're replacing it with Jeff Saturday who has no head coach.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, Will. If you're Jeff Saturday and Jim Irsay calls you and offers you the...


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[Assistant] Paint Manning's gonna be the quarterbacks coach in a few weeks. Maybe Paint Manning should be the, should be the guy. But my question is, Ersei calls you, you're Jeff Saturday, he offers you the job, you obviously take it, but there's gotta be some apprehension, right?


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[Assistant] And you were saying earlier, you know, you've been watching this, this game twice. Obviously you watched this morning. How much, if any, is the right thumb injury impacting Rodgers? Is that part of this equation or is it just simply lack of trust in the offense, lack of trust in the weapon?


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[Assistant] Right, that's what I was gonna ask. Does it almost, does it almost feel like he thinks, okay, too good to be true if he's that wide open? Yes, a thousand percent.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll say the worst is, is the Packers lost to Detroit just by the way in which it happened and what that necessarily means. I don't think that anybody's changing really their opinion about the Bills being a Super Bowl favorite among the Super Bowl favorites. You lose this game for the Green Bay Packers as we were just talking about.


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[Assistant] It's changing the whole complexion of your season. You were supposed to, this was supposed to be a get right situation, going up against the worst secondary in the NFL, one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and you throw three picks in the red zone. I mean, if things go right, even if you just throw one pick,


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[Assistant] You're scoring two touchdowns, you're up big and you're feeling good. You went 0 for 3 in that area. So I would see that as much worse, but I will say this about the Bills and the Jets.


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[Assistant] There is starting to become a formula of how you can beat the Buffalo Bills, and that is running the football. We were just talking about with the Green Bay Packers in that Sunday game. They were able to run the ball really well against the Buffalo Bills. What were the Jets able to do in this game? Ball control. Run.


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[Assistant] That's something that when we talk about these elite teams, the NFL.


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[Assistant] That's one thing that would concern me if I'm a Buffalo Bills fan is if you can get into these situations where these teams can run all over you, dictate pace, that's one way that you can get the ball out of Josh Allen's hands without necessarily playing great defense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think I'd chalk it up as a little bit of a fluke. Just because I do think that...


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[Assistant] You know, New York does, you know, as much as we're saying the Jets, you know, we're skeptical about their record and all that stuff. Listen, they play great defense. Robert Salo is a defensive minded head coach. They have a good front. They run the football. Like, you can...


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[Assistant] They have pieces that can make life difficult. This is not a New York Jets team that you can just...


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[Assistant] Chalk in a win and go and snooze it into MetLife and get a win. It's just, that's just not how this team is. Yeah, Zach Wilson might not be the answer. We, we still don't, maybe the jury's still out on him, but overall this roster is far better than what it's been in years past. And they have the right head coach to kind of utilize particularly on that defensive side. So,


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[Assistant] Division opponent on the road, double digit favorite road on the road. These things happen. They get fluky.


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[Assistant] And it just kind of feels like that happens every now and again. Again, you know, you look at what happened last year, we were probably having the same exact conversation.


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[Assistant] When the Bills just stunk up the joint and lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars and they were still a legitimate powerhouse in the playoffs and you know, we're taking Kansas City and those haymakers in that epic game. So.


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[Assistant] I'm not losing too much sleep over Buffalo in this respect, but like I said, big picture.


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[Assistant] There's starting to be a formula, not even for Buffalo. I mean, you even saw it with Philadelphia there as well in that Thursday game against Houston. You, you, you're, you can run on both those teams right now, which is something for both the favorite in the AFC and the, and the NFC to kind of be concerned about.


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[Assistant] And honestly, and how much was that? Well, you had a huge game, but it was only like three catches, right?


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[Assistant] And this is one thing that I mentioned to this last week when we were talking, when we were recapping the trade deadline, they pulled off the trade for Naim Hines. I think that this is one of those areas where he could help. Yep.


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[Assistant] You talk about this offense wanting a player like that in their offense. You go back to the offseason when they were trying to get JD McKissick and they were unable to do it. They signed him and that whole thing with Washington happened.


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[Assistant] It feels like, and they draft Zach Moss, uh, not Zach Moss excuse me, uh, James Cook to try to kind of have that type of lightning roll.


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[Assistant] Even, you know, Devin Singletary's caught a ton of passes out of the back, but they're looking for somebody to be that outlet almost in the slot or in the flat and that short yardage area to help move the change because


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[Assistant] You know, Stefan Diggs, he's already kind of your deep threat. I mean, it almost feels like Davis and Diggs are a little bit redundant. I think that Diggs has a much more...


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[Assistant] Um, diverse route tree than Gabe Davis does currently.


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[Assistant] But they kind of, like what Gabe Davis does best, I think Stefan Diggs does, and he does it better.


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[Assistant] So I don't know if that necessarily blends particularly well. If they had somebody like a Cole Beasley in his prime or something along those lines, that makes a little bit more sense in terms of how you want to use your offense. This is why I think the Naim Hines thing could be interesting because I almost wonder if you can move him into the slot in certain situations.


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[Assistant] And still kind of have that while not necessarily having your quote unquote slot receiver, but you have somebody in the slot that's capable of moving the ball on short yardages.


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[Assistant] San Francisco, San Francisco is my number two team. I think that that, that team...


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[Assistant] As much as I think Philadelphia should be in, definitely, obviously, 8-No is the favorite.


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[Assistant] Kind of what I was alluding to earlier when I was talking about Buffalo in Philadelphia, really struggling against the run.


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[Assistant] That's the type of team, the 49ers that would scare me because they now have Christian McCaffrey. They have a coach in Kyle Shanahan that wants to run, has that outside zone scheme. They can get after the quarterback in terms of pass rush. That's a team that scares me. So that to me would be the number two team in the NFC. Minnesota!


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[Assistant] I really like, I actually like the T.J. Hawkinson deal. You know what? You're, you're, you're seven and one.


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[Assistant] At the time you're 6-1 to start the season, it's the best chance you've had in years to win the NFC North and to make a significant run with the Packers being down.


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[Assistant] Go for it. Totally get it. You should absolutely do it. I think the roster is pretty good.


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[Assistant] My number one question, and it will not get answered until January, is what Kirk Cousins looks like in a playoff game. And what does he look like when the entire eyeballs of the NFL are on him? Because when we've seen it so far, he stinks. He can't win.


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[Assistant] He can win these one o'clock games. He can wear the chains and go shirtless on the plane. But when it's a red eye, they're all losing. They're all sleeping. They're all like, this guy might not be the guy.


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[Assistant] Of course you are. But still, I could flex as much as humanly possible. I don't know if that would happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, they're gonna probably, I mean, they're in the first place in that division still. And you know, if they, if this is one of those moments where all of a sudden you...


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[Assistant] You know, you had that last second win against the Rams and that kind of turned your season around maybe I guess?


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't rule it out because I feel like it's very similar to what we were saying earlier with Buffalo when we were talking about, you know, that game against Jacksonville last year.


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[Assistant] You know, we were very much down on the Buccaneers when Brady was forgetting what down it was in Chicago and they lost and they're like, wow, this thing ain't gonna work out.


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[Assistant] You know, that could, things could change. They have a top five defense in DVOA. If they get the offensive right, if they get the offense right.


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[Assistant] That's a dangerous team for sure. I wouldn't, I would put currently Minnesota above them, obviously. But that's a team that could be dangerous.


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[Assistant] But going back to Kirk Cousins, you know, it's just my, my biggest question for him. And I mean, even if you look at this game against Washington, I mean, he was 22 of 40. I mean, he had to have a 7th, what was it, a 13-0 run to end the game to beat the commanders?


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[Assistant] I mean, we're not, it's not like they're talking about facing the Philadelphia Eagles or facing the Dallas Cowboys or anything like that. Like, the commanders, they're last place in that division for a reason.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they have, you know, Taylor Heinecke I think is, you know, a serviceable guy and everything like that, but it's not.


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[Assistant] It's not like this was a juggernaut in the NFC. And I know there's, it's a road game. It's emotional because he used to play there and all that. I get it. But at the same time, I,


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[Assistant] I still have my reservations about how far this Minnesota Vikings team can go because of what I've seen from Kirk Cousins in those high pressure moments. The one o'clock games, I mean this is probably the most high pressure one o'clock game he's had because it's his former team and he barely won it. And so now we're talking about going into


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[Assistant] To win that thing, to go to the Super Bowl? No, he's throwing like 5 picks in that game.


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[Assistant] Like, look at that. It's like a, it's like the worst hairpiece ever. It's like when, uh, did, uh, Tobias wear a hairpiece? Cause I feel like that's what this is.


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[Assistant] What's up? Well, I don't know what we did over the last two weeks to be blessed with such


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[Assistant] backing Carson Wentz in any realistic fashion. I'd much rather go with the team that I feel like is ascending a little bit in the Chicago Bears over the last couple of games. Fields has been able to throw it a little bit more, obviously coming off his best.


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[Assistant] With, with the Washington commanders, I just feel like this is a team that is teetering on just an absolute collapse. Obviously they've lost four in a row coming into it, but we're coming off of a game where Ron Rivera is pointing fingers at his quarterback and then retracting it.


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[Assistant] And you have Wentz not playing particularly well. I think it's, what is it, 20 sacks or something along those lines over the last, over the, over the course of the season and six interceptions. Both of those are the third most in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I just feel like this is close enough that I'd take the point here with Chicago.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I mean, that's certainly a realm of possibility here. I don't rule that out. Again, like you said earlier, it's hard to really feel 100% confident with any one of these teams, so as much as I may like the Bears here, I, you do see...


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[Assistant] the ceiling for Washington because of the skill posi at least the willingness fo throw the football a littl there's the unknown of Bri playing in this game. It