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[Assistant] It's just like, there it is. So, and I thought it was nonsense on our morning call before the show. I thought it was crazy. I didn't think it was happening. So, but. Could they win a title this year? No, the Lakers? Oh, the Cavs?


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[Assistant] And I guess Jarrett, like the Lakers can't win with LeBron and AD. They're a 500 team in the West and the West isn't even that good.


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[Assistant] And they're a 500 more team. It would be better, but they're not, I don't think they're winning. This isn't Lebron of 2016. He's still really, really good. He's putting up unbelievable numbers.


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[Assistant] But he is past his prime. Can he be that guy in a seven game series? What is this? Toby Keith song? I ain't as good as I once was, but I can be as good once as I ever was. That's him. Like you need him in game seven. Okay. He can, he can put on his cape and be that guy.


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[Assistant] That it exerted out of him in those series to get to that level. I don't know that he can do it to get to that. He can do it maybe twice, once or twice. I don't think he can do it for an entire series. And then another series.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Here's, here's what I do know. This is what I told you. I have said for years, I thought Lebron,


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[Assistant] Could come back. I think they could win a championship next year if he came back. I told him that! I told him that!


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[Assistant] I mean we've been saying that for years. He's not going to go from what he's doing now to, you know.


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[Assistant] Yes. So, but I absolutely believe if he came back, now if he came back, it changes the, the Donovan Mitchell conversation 100%. I'm not trading Donovan Mitchell. If you get, and, and, and it's,


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[Assistant] This is a pie in the sky discussion, but let's have fun with it. It's February. We have nothing else to talk about.


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[Assistant] But I, I do believe, like, he could come back. Like, I, why not?


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[Assistant] He's not, he told me, we had this conversation at Cleveland State over All-Star weekend, and he said like, I ain't a mid-level player, I ain't coming back from the mid-level. So you gotta make the, you gotta find the money, he's gonna make 40 million or whatever, 50 million.


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[Assistant] You'd have to maybe trade strews, trade lavert. I don't know. You find a team that isn't trying to win and you dump the money that that's not necessarily an issue and you give them a sweetener and whatever. So it's, it's, it's.


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[Assistant] It's possible. I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be possible. And I absolutely believe that he could come, that he should come back.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it gives you a better chance to win next year if you keep all of them. And there's one more thing that's really important to all of this. This is not the same Cavs team that left. And everyone talks about the relationship between Dan and LeBron and it was never good and it wasn't. Even when he came back it wasn't very good. But this is a different team.


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[Assistant] Dan is not the same Dan that he was in 2016, 2017, 2018.


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[Assistant] Well the personality of the team, Dan's, Dan's hovering over everything that they do is, is very much different now just because of his health issues. This is a very different organization than the one that he left.


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[Assistant] When he came back in 2014, I absolutely believe he felt like he owed, he had to try and get this championship. Like he failed. He was here seven years, they didn't get it done. It was a failure that they didn't win a championship.


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[Assistant] And also equally important, he was hated. Like he was not liked and it was turning.


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[Assistant] He was getting more and more cheers, 2012, 2013. You know, there was more cheers in that arena when he came.


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[Assistant] But he knew he had to make it right. And Pat Riley actually told me that.


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[Assistant] I called Pat for a story I was doing on Lebron a year or so ago and Pat said, I knew someday.


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[Assistant] He had to go back. He had to make it right because that's home. And he had to be able to go home again. And he had to make it right. Now I don't think Pat expected him to leave when he did. He thought he was going to get more time with him.


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[Assistant] Like all the draft picks that they had, that they, they traded seven first round picks in four years. There was a war chest of trade assets to go get the pieces that were missing. The Kevin Love.


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[Assistant] Winning that draft lottery was huge to get it because they knew the Wiggins was the piece that they could go use to go get Kevin Love. He called Kevin Love


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[Assistant] Then the story drops, Lee Jenkins story drops that he's coming back and LeBron called Kevin.


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[Assistant] That afternoon, Kevin told me he was driving to work out in LA.


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[Assistant] And LeBron called him, got his number and called him and Kevin pulled off on the side of the road.


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[Assistant] Well, the reason to come back now would be to put a bow on the fairytale. Yeah, that's the same answer. To put a bow on the fairytale. And to win a championship. They could win another championship. He went to LA and he said this, and I don't know, you can disagree with this statement, but he said like,


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[Assistant] All the decisions that he made were for other people. L.A. he went because he wanted to play for the Lakers. It was like the Yankees of baseball. He wanted to play for the most storied franchise in the league and you can argue whether that's Boston or L.A. He wanted to live in the sun and not the snow.


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[Assistant] His last year here, we were at a shoot around in Dallas.


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[Assistant] And I knew he was leaving. Like it was, I just knew it was over. He was, he got the title, it was gone. The organization, his relationship had fractured and I said,


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[Assistant] How many is too many? How many teams is too many in your mind? Can you play for a third team, a fourth team? Like how many is too many? And it's just one conversation. Like he could change his mind.


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[Assistant] Shaq's played for a ton. The answer to Shaq's is too many. He said, when I saw Michael Jordan in a uniform other than Chicago, I knew anything was possible.


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[Assistant] There is no such thing. Now he said, at the end, he said, you know, I don't want to get carried away with like four or five, six, but three, three is not too many and he's at three. And I'll go back to the conversation we had over all star weekend and.


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[Assistant] I mean, it broke the NBA for All-Star Weekend when he told me I could come back someday, like I wouldn't close the door on that. And at first he kind of dismissed it, and the more we talked,


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[Assistant] I don't know. That conversation is still stuck in the back of my head. What was his pushback to your report?


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[Assistant] After that came out, obviously, it was, it was all over All-Star Weekend. It was, it took over All-Star Weekend. And then everyone started like,


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[Assistant] Speculating and putting their own spin on it and you know how that goes.


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[Assistant] But when the Lakers came back the next time, I told him, I said, I never, I didn't take you out of context. I wrote exactly what you said. And he said, no, you got it right. Other reporters ran with it. It was the other stuff that upset him. But he told me, like, you got it right. I knew there was an issue there.


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[Assistant] That's it. You're in your camp. You know what he's done that nobody's ever done? He's taken three teams through three franchises to championships. Nobody's done that. Don't give me Robert Oren that.


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[Assistant] Eight straight trips to the finals on two different organizations is unbelievable. And Jerry West said, we talked to Jerry West during the, it was the 16, I think it was the 16 finals here that Cavs won. Jerry said,


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[Assistant] I would strangle all of you guys, if I was him, to hear this crap about his finals record. And Jerry, of course, has a terrible finals record. Sure.


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[Assistant] And he was favored I think against OKC, I think maybe with Miami, but the Cavs were never a favorite.


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[Assistant] Right. And I never understood, I know, I think we've talked about this before, I never understood the fact why


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[Assistant] If he got there earlier in his career and got to nine finals and lost three of them...


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[Assistant] 8 in a row, 1 with the Cavs before that, 9 Lakers, 10.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the joke is Michael made three straight and had to retire twice. That's how much it takes out of you. You make it three straight and he had to retire twice after he won three in a row.


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[Assistant] Bron- Bron- Who's the best team? The Bron going eight years in a row is mind-blowing.


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[Assistant] The game seven. No, game six. Game six, his second year in Miami. That thing was close to unraveling. If they lost that series, they may have dismantled that whole thing. There was talk that it was going to end.


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[Assistant] That was rock bottom for him personally, I think, was losing that. And that's when he went home and did some soul searching. I think he talked to Hakeem Olajuwon and just sort of rebuilt, I think his mental side of the game because that's when he came back and put on that performance in Boston his second year there.


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[Assistant] No! No! It's funny. And that dude hung on for two years! I do think, I agree first of all, I agree that receiver should be the top priority. But I think you can make a case that another edge rusher is awfully high on that list as well.


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[Assistant] I agree. So, if you, if they come out of this with a, with a, another top edge rush or either through trade or whatever.


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[Assistant] I, I do think they need a circle receiver, and I do think that they will. But hooding someone, especially, it'd be nice to find a long term solution opposite of Miles. Because it's been- They've been trying to do it for four to five, ten years. It's been piece mailing with Genevieve and Clowney, and now with Zedaria Smith, and it's just always the cycle of one or two guys. What's the guy that got from the Giants?


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[Assistant] But again, I would say what we've said before is they weren't spending high draft picks on these guys. They're drafting middle of the pack. And, and we, I think we named two. Puka was a miss. A lot of teams miss to let them go to the fifth round. And Amon Ra was a miss.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. And those are two out of 32 that found late, mid to late round gems. So it's not like it's real easy to do. It's hard. The answer is...


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[Assistant] Pick them earlier when you got a bigger net to pick from. And it is interesting, you know, cause I agree, you have to go back and say, what are we looking for?


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[Assistant] What are we, what are we identifying here? Because they tried the speed route with Schwartz. They tried the hands route. I don't know if he was A+. David Bell has good hands though.


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[Assistant] I know he had a couple of drops, but by and large he has good hands. That was his reputation coming out. He's a good pass catcher without great speed. So they tried the good pass catcher without great speed and they tried the great speed without great hands and neither one of them work. Can we merge the two? Anthony Bell? That's crazy.


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[Assistant] I think it was important to him to get an opportunity like this. I know he interviewed with Vegas.


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[Assistant] Uh, might have had a couple other chances as well, but he wanted an opportunity to go in and call plays. And now, more than likely, he'll get that. I don't know who else would. Jordan Mayo's not going to call plays. He's being a defensive guy. So he'll get his big chance now. Uh, he's very well thought of around the league, just in terms of being a great guy.


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[Assistant] And now he'll get the opportunity that he see, that he sought for quite a while.


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[Assistant] If they give him time, he can do a good job. They gotta give him more than a year.


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[Assistant] Quan has a war of 9.1 his first two years in the league. What? 9.1. A lot of that's defense. A lot of that's defense. So it adds in. But his war is like top 10 all time among outfielders for his first two years. I was gonna say, how many guys have done that? It's in there with like,


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[Assistant] It was like Bonds and Bryce Harper type numbers. Now, here's the difference. Trout was higher, I think. But here's the difference. Kwan's 26. Those guys were doing it at like 19 and 20 and 21 and 22. But still, a war of 9. To me, defensive war.


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[Assistant] Randy can run, Straugh can run too. Where do you think he is lined up on opening day? Is he in Lefzer Field or Center Field?


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[Assistant] Bro, I had no idea because, you know, I'm just, first of all, when I'm off, I'm untapped.


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[Assistant] I'm untapped from the whole mainframe. I ain't about to just be like...


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[Assistant] I, I didn't see that. I didn't get that. He was here, like, doing his thing.


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[Assistant] I'm not a stadium type, but I gotta come through and it gotta be laser lights, it gotta be dudes doing backflips on roller skates, I gotta be entertained. I can't just see Drake out there, just...


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[Assistant] Go get breakfast, parts in the form of. And them dudes don't be out like that. He probably was, he probably already had it set up. Sunday's a traveling day. He played. Yea. Like, he played, he played


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[Assistant] Trying to get this girl from like, Houston, Atlanta, Vegas or something to come through or a girl that he was there like seven weeks, seven years. You know what? I used to know a girl that used to mess with JR Smith. Now I'm trying to get at her like that. So that's it. He's not outside doing no cool stuff. What do you think?


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[Assistant] It ain't Atlanta. Like, I mean, I think if he was in Atlanta, he'd go to the strip club before the show.


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[Assistant] You need to stop playing. You, you, you, you in here right out, did you have a kid within the last six months? We need to give you a questionnaire too. No comment.


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[Assistant] What the hell is going on today? Alright, so you know I'm sincere about being unplugged in. If I didn't hear about Drake or see Adam Nabool's Airbnb, I wasn't looking at nothing. That's crazy, right? I really, I really, I really longed off.


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[Assistant] Kinda yea, like kinda. But you gotta understand, like, I, like, I live in a different world. Like, when I go home...


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[Assistant] Like it's, it's a whole, it's a different world. Like I don't, like I'm married to a foreign person. So half the things that I care about that your spouse would remind you about your girlfriend or your girlfriend would remind you about, I don't get those reminders. They like,


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[Assistant] She like, what is a battle rap? What is what? Drake? I don't know. Like, like, she don't know. So like, I don't get, I don't get no, I don't get no reminders, so I just be in there in a time warp.


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[Assistant] We need to, we need to protest. If y'all don't send us nowhere next year, we will ju- Listen, either two things we're gonna play. I'm either gonna play the race card or I'm gonna fake a seizure.


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[Assistant] Either one you gotta respect. Or I might do both. You better send me to something next year.


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[Assistant] Which is just, you know, and a lot of it, a lot of stuff I say about racist tongue-in-cheek.


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[Assistant] Cause I, you know, we just laughing, but, but this really gets to me, man.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you see Cam Newton here. These guys, and every time he goes to a camp, now this is the new cool thing, where instead of them coming and respecting what Cam Newton is, they come and talk about you ain't won nothing, you ain't did nothing, and this is not the first incident where he went somewhere and they would disrespect him, right? And I'm not sure how this thing started or whatever, but


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[Assistant] Like it's just crazy in our community, it's like nuts that, that like somebody of his stature won a national championship, Super Bowl MVP went to a Super Bowl. That these dudes because they see him on the internet, they want to just come up, pull up on him and test him and put hands on him. Like this is crazy. Like can you imagine that happen in like Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] Can you imagine, like, somebody coming to a camp and just disrespecting Joe Burrow or Josh Allen? Even, even cats like Dan Olavsky. Like, it would never happen. It's crazy. And it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, instead of us being, being respectful, and instead of us holding our legends or holding the people that really made it out of our area, we go the opposite end of the spectrum and just be like, oh, Cam Newton here, let's disrespect him and put hands on him. Now, the funny part about it is,


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[Assistant] The dude that was, you know, the dude that he was messin' with, was talkin' crazy and reckless before they started and it's on Instagram. But, the crazy thing is...


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[Assistant] He must have not understood, Cam Newton is, uh, about as big as me. Like Cam Newton, six foot five, two fifty, like,


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[Assistant] He didn't realize until he got his hands on him, he was like, oh, this is kind of, it's bad. I didn't realize he had grown man strength. Like, he was getting ragdolled out there. They had to stop him. His people, you know, Earl, you know you getting beat up when your people have to be like, stop it, leave him alone. Leave him alone.


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[Assistant] G. Shout out to uh, shout out to Donovan Mitchell. I think, and I'ma be honest with you, we'll take the L for it. I mean, there's not even no L.


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[Assistant] I came in on my Saturday show on the barbershop 8 to 12. And uhm, I said, nah, unacceptable. Unacceptable.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I was, I was really upset at the level they was playing the last two games with Donovan Mitchell wasn't there. And it's not about making a miss or anything. It's not about people even shooting slumps or coming back from rotation.


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[Assistant] I feel like when Donovan Mitchell is not there, everybody turns around and they put up no resistance. Uh, Caris LaVert, I'm glad you had a triple double, but the night before you couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. You had one dunk and that was it.


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[Assistant] Uh, Darius Garland, your job is to get people acclimated and get them into the office and do his thing. Guess what? You turning the ball over and you dribble a whole lot. A whole lot when, when, when Donovan Mitchell is not there. And J.B. Bickerstad.


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[Assistant] Sometimes I need you to do certain things like, hey, instead of yelling at the ref on every single call, how about getting your team's face when they, when they not playing defense or say, guys, we're not, listen, I told you what we trying to play. We're trying to play a certain tempo. We're trying to play a certain offense. We're not doing that right now. You guys got to get your head out of your ass and let's get it going.


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[Assistant] Never hear it. You just sit him here and he's beating up the referees ears from start to finish. Say something to your team.


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[Assistant] For me, it's not about no, you know, whether or not you lose games on coming back from the back to back. Man, it's about this.


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[Assistant] This organization, as I'm watching other teams play,


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[Assistant] You need to stop worrying about what you think is good for you and start comparing yourself to the other people.


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[Assistant] I said, dang, they blitzing already. He got the playoff rotations. I mean, there's people moving around, defensive, they got the rotation moving, they playing defense, and guess what? Brunson is a killer, he came out aggressive, and guess what? Still didn't matter.


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[Assistant] Them dudes, Jalen Brown and Tatum and them. Pushed them, wiped them off the face of the court. Like it wasn't nothing. And the Knicks had a good game plan. So if you telling me that we bad for getting on Darius Garland.


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[Assistant] It's not about whether Daris Garland is a young kid, 24, ain't that young.


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[Assistant] This is not Utah. Sometimes, yeaah, we care. And, and they finding out what happens when you get to Cleveland Brown's magnifying glass McNuggets. Cause guess what? Darius Garland make just as much as Deshaun Watson, and you know what kind of smoke Deshaun Watson get here.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's great, you know. I like, I like what he said. Like, hey, if somebody says something about Earl, I'ma come to his defense, right? And then I'll handle it behind closed doors. Like, in public, like we always say, hey, if you go and you start fighting,


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[Assistant] You automatically in the fight. I'll figure out what happened later and be like, hey bro, you was tripping. You got us in this fight. But from, from the standpoint of Donovan Mitchell,


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[Assistant] And how we, how I look at the Cavs is this. Darius Garland has to figure out where he, where he is in his offense. And I've been talking about, and, and that, when he said his comments, he said, he, you guys are upset of him about, you know, half a game or a game or two. No, that's not what we talking about. We talking about not only this year, we talking last year.


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[Assistant] Like, Darius Garland should understand the business nature of this and people will get on you because guess what?


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[Assistant] He was here when they picked Colin, they picked him over Colin Sexton, right?


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[Assistant] He, we, Colin Sexton got the same smoke. He has, he has empty points. He does, he dribbles too much. He takes shots. He don't be playing defense. He's just a one trick pony. So they, they traded him. They got him out of here. And now, you know, Darius Garland got his max deal. At the end of the day, I don't care about the max deal. It's about, cause any player that plays at a certain level,


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[Assistant] The way the league works is going to get a max deal regardless, even if they live up to it or not. I get that. But my thing is, for them to win,


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[Assistant] We called, we talked about Jared Allen way worse. Yeah. Did we not? Way worse.


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[Assistant] Hard, they're hardened individuals now. Now Jared Allen, like, I'm turning on TV, Jared Allen leading the team and scoring. Three games in a row. Three games in a row. 22-23, he getting 10 rebounds, and guess what?


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[Assistant] They interview him at halftime, what can you do? I got to be better on defense. No games. He's not playing games no more. Now, not saying Darius is playing games, but there has to be a mindset that if the Cavs are gonna get to where they wanna go,


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[Assistant] There are teams in this Eastern Conference that's not gonna play with you play all the time. It's just not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people who come in from other different places and because Cleveland has not been a winner forever or without LeBron, they have this natural thing where


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[Assistant] They feel we're some sort of charity case. And when you say, oh, he's done so much.


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[Assistant] You haven't come and changed. You didn't win rookie of the year. You even went to no finals. You, you haven't won a playoff series. Like, what are you, what is he referring to when he should have the benefit of the doubt and hasn't won anything? Like, it's a lot of times that people want to think that Cleveland, well, you know what, you guys should be just happy for what you get because you guys haven't been so good.


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[Assistant] No, we, we, we've seen championships here before. We've seen our team go and play to go to State Warriors and we see what championship level basketball is. So no, he hasn't done anything. And no, he's not getting the benefit of it. And that goes for everybody on the team.


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[Assistant] Including Donovan. So no, y'all ain't proved nothing. Like, yea, like, see this is what I'm saying. You got to the second in the east. That's cool. I love it.


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[Assistant] Understanding what you are. Sometimes you need to be reminded what you are. Kara Silver, your guy that can get 50 in this league.


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[Assistant] I've seen you do it. George Niang, you're a guy that can get hot just like Sam Merrill. I've seen you do that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So for the Cavs to get where they want to go, man, and I keep just saying this, is I'm watching the other teams. I'm watching, I watched the entire game of the Los Angeles Lakers and the Phoenix Suns.


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[Assistant] And I saw how Gracie Dowling was like, oh, I'm not going to miss. Like, you see how Bradley Beal is out and they step up and KD does his thing and Nurkish just came off the bench.


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[Assistant] Uhm, after playing, having a DNP almost, and then comes in and gets the first 8-10 points of the game being aggressive down low against Anthony Davis. So when I be saying this stuff,


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[Assistant] I don't be just saying it as a vacuum of like, I'm just watching the Cavs. I'm watching these other games and I'm seeing how these other teams is trying to figure it out. And the Cavs is a good place if Caris Levert can do that and Jared Allen can consistently do that.


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[Assistant] And I'm thinking that's built in their, that's built in what they want to do, getting to where they want to go.


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[Assistant] No. And I would usually say yes, but for Donovan Mitchell, where he's at right now to win a DMVP,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're in the two seat, but they need to win as many games as they can in order to shine light on. Wow, well let's take a look at these tabs.


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[Assistant] These guys are actually, like, really doing, like, uh, like, they're the best team in the league right now. And for a while, they were the hottest team in the league, but when you lose two games in a row, you kind of get dropped back down. It's almost like being a Cinderella. Like, if you're at Mac school and you want to get into the top 25, you gotta go ahead and defeat it. And you gotta beat two...


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[Assistant] Two, two big time D1 power five conference type people. So for the Cavs...


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[Assistant] You already look at what they did last year, people kind of wrote them off. Now you look at it this year, they're playing better. He has his best numbers of his life right now, but when you bring that list back up, I mean, SGA is crazy. Like, Tatum is playing out of his mind. Like, you know, these dudes, when I'm watching them,


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[Assistant] People was like, we can't put Jalen Brunson below Donovan Mitchell because he's giving him the buckets in Utah and he came to New York and still consistently, you know, tightens him up. So it's a perception thing. Do I think Donovan Mitchell is better than Brunson? Yes, but...


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[Assistant] Brunson has the name, he got the head-to-head matchups, and he plays in New York.


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[Assistant] So see, here's the argument. That's why when- So now you gonna have to get mad every single time. I- What we say-


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[Assistant] When people tell you, you know what, if you take Donovan off this team, we still got Darius, we still got the unicorn, and look at the way Jared Allen is playing. Isaac O'Coral's playing the best ball. Why would you not say that that team that, that without Darius Garland would still be a top four or five seed in the East? Why would you, why wouldn't you say that?


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[Assistant] See, here's the thing. You take Jason Tatum off, right? They can still win two playoff rounds. Okay, but here's the thing. If you took Jason Tatum- So watch this. Take Jason Tatum- This is cold. This is cold right here. You ain't gonna want to miss this one.


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[Assistant] Let's go. Take Jason Tato and put him on the Cavs. Take Donovan Mitchell and put him on the Celtics.


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[Assistant] So, so if you're an MVP, you make everybody else better. If you're an MVP, you're gonna get the other guys to play above their skis, and if you're an MVP, you put them at a championship level, right? But what I'm saying is, if you put Donovan Mitchell in the Celtics, they're not, they're not at a championship level.


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[Assistant] So what I'm asking is you can't have it both ways. I'm sitting here, I'm confused because every single time we talk about Donovan Mitchell and the potential of him leaving,


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[Assistant] People was like, oh yeaah, we still got ballplayers though, we still, we, you know, we, now...


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, at one point in time, before Donovan Mitchell got here, people was talking about Darius Garland and Evan Mobley and Alan.


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[Assistant] They're like, listen, look at the progression. That's when we talking about Donovan Mitchell versus Derrick Garland and people saying Derrick Garland is a max player. You're like, okay, uhm, they need something else, bro. Like, this is not going to get it done. And it was evident when they got Donovan Mitchell. What I'm saying is if you look at all those lists of players right there, it's hard to crack that


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[Assistant] Uh, now listen, now if you take Tim off the squad, they're not making no playoff.


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[Assistant] When you look at some of these players, Jokic is 1-2. Even if he had one of his greatest years, they were going to say, oh, we can't give him three in a row.


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[Assistant] You're not gonna do that. SGA, they need to see whether or not that this guy can win a playoff game to put him up there. Giannis has already won one. The guy that ain't won one is Jason Tatum and he could arguably be used to being first team NBA the last few times, uh, last two years. Now here's the thing. In order for you to sneak up in that list,


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[Assistant] You gotta have the national guys put you up there and how many games are they watching in the cab?


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[Assistant] That actually hurt, actually the game, it was national TV against the 76ers.


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[Assistant] And Mitchell didn't play, and that hurts. Like, they're like, that was a great opportunity for him to come out on the road, and then Tyrese Maxey got that look.


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[Assistant] And man, we're gonna get into, we're gonna get into a lot. We're gonna get into way too early draft free agents. Uhm, we'll talk free agents a little bit. We'll talk draft, way too early draft. Uhm, we also gonna get into uhm, some of the Combine stuff coming up. Combine is coming up and whether or not that's an actual thing anymore, like,


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[Assistant] You know, are we watching the combine since we only have a second round pick?


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[Assistant] I think that we don't be watching as closely as you used to. So we'll talk about all that good stuff. Got a good show coming up for you and we'll do that today. Five o'clock.


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[Assistant] I'ma start with this. Damn, I was trippin'. You was right.


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[Assistant] Cavs, Cavs ain't getting nothing without Donovan Mitchell. And he won't value if it come to it. Yeah, he was right.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like getting a raise, but it's one of them raises where it's a cost of living raise and everybody get a raise, right?


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[Assistant] I got that same raise. Nuggets was like, I got that same raise. You like, dang. Alright, well, am I really getting a raise if everybody else got a raise?


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[Assistant] And so now the calves have a little more wiggle room.


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[Assistant] Because it was already over the cap, I think, $37 million dollars over the cap. So now it's like, yeaah, we could get something if we restructure some people.


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[Assistant] But nah, like, everybody else got 30 million too. So the teams that you thought, like, wasn't gonna have that. I think Kansas City got like 30 million dollars they've spent on people. You know, you watch it, you look around at these other teams, so they're gonna have to fight it and duke it out, uhm, for some of the people if they really want one of these top flight receivers. Also, you look at it like this.


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[Assistant] We're seeing the fruits of the labor right now.


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[Assistant] T Higgins just got, like, uh, franchised. This morning. So, like, if the Bengals was thinking about not franchising them because he didn't have the money, well, guess what? They got the stimulus package. Everybody got the- everybody got the COVID check. This is the-


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like now, they T Higgins might be off the board. I think Mike Evans might go back to Tampa because they got a little more money. Uhm, it's, it's a gift and a curse. It's like, yeah, we got it. But do you really got it? Because you still got to compete. You see what I mean? Yeah. What do you think?


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[Assistant] And, you know, say what you want, I'm still trying to figure it.


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[Assistant] People go crazy about how Jimmy Hazm is not a good owner.


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[Assistant] And they, they bring up the most obscure things, like he doesn't let Kevin Stefanski do what he wants. Who cares? He's the owner. Have you ever seen any employee do everything they want?


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[Assistant] Uh, you could yell at, well, he, he, he had the FBI flying pilot. I don't, I don't go to truck stops. I don't care. Nothing about that. The FBI should have got him and indicted him. And if they let him go, that's on them. All I care about.


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[Assistant] Is, is you gonna cut that check when we need to get it done? Because at the end of the day, he's not playing no games on the field. Well, he had his, he had his grandchildren on the sidelines. I don't know, last time I heard when you were owner,


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[Assistant] So when you say, when you say, I'm not going to spend money after anybody, just any old body.


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[Assistant] You gotta, you gotta do a face that pops in your head. Who is just any old body that you ain't worth, you ain't trying to spend no money on? It's hard to say, you know.


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[Assistant] It ain't workin' out, golf, like he ain't get no touches. They throw the rentals more, they got the portals. You might as well go get, listen, we can't give you the two, but we can give you, do some in the three though.


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[Assistant] Why didn't I think of that scheme? That was a crazy, like, cause Jameson Williams got first round tallied, he been injured a little big, they didn't get him to rock. Well, do you know what?


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[Assistant] You know, uh, you know, I talk about this all the time, like,


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[Assistant] You know, I grew up, uhm, I played defensive line in college. And the crazy part about it is my dad used to take us up. We couldn't really afford to go to the Browns game, so our dad used to take us up to, to Berea and watch practice. And he used to always say, hey, hey, make sure you watching Michael Dean in the middle.


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[Assistant] It's to watch his get off quick, quick as a cat. And I didn't, I didn't really get it until I started like looking into my position and watching. And I think a lot of times, a lot of people don't give you the credit, uhm,


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[Assistant] of what you were able to do, just being disruptive in the backfield. Uh, just the other night I was watching a game. I would, you know, I'd be watching a lot of old school games. Um, I was watching, I believe it was 1992, the Miami Dolphins versus the Cleveland Browns at Cleveland Brown Stadium. They talked about it, how you was hurt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, do you think just because of the fact that you played in Cleveland and maybe you didn't play in a big city that people just don't give you the credit you deserve?


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[Assistant] Uh, there's a lot of people who feel that, that, you know, he can't get to where he wants to get back to. Uhm, I, I feel giving healthy and having a whole year. I think he, I think he could put up some numbers. Now let me ask you this. Now there's a guy that you played football with.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my man, uh, I said, you know, I wanted to get somebody on the show. I, I reached out and I, you know, my man Leroy Horace said, listen, when you meet Michael Dean on,


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[Assistant] Had a little run in with, with uh, Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] And uh, you guys were supposed to be in pads, but uh, Michael Dean Perry being the big dog, you put, you, you, you put an end to that. How did that go down? How did you get, how did you just pull rank on Bill Belichick like that? How did that go down?


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[Assistant] You know, this is crazy. This is crazy. You gotta bring it up. Like, when did you, cause this is, many of my brothers, we got to play with each other in college. So, I played defensive line, he played offensive line.


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[Assistant] What was it like seeing your brother go like from, you know, he was a guy that there was a defensive tackle to.


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[Assistant] I mean, becoming a superstar overnight by like, when we, when we was growing up, I was too big to run the football.


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[Assistant] You gotta think about like, you know, I grew up and these guys used to have, I got all the posters, right? So for me, I'm like, man, listen, I get to, I interview Michael Dean Perry, my dad be like, man, that's crazy. You growing up from watching them on TV saying, watch this dude in your position till you get it, this, this,


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[Assistant] Oh, okay. So they would still get money. $1.99 is still kind of expensive back then, though. For a triple cheeseburger with bacon, though? I mean, double cheeseburgers used to be 99 cent, remember? We was growing up, double cheeseburgers, 99. Apple pies is a dollar. And don't go to the Wendy's


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[Assistant] You had dessert, you could get the small drink, you could get the, ay, McChickens was a dollar.


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[Assistant] You can get the McChicken, you can get the Double Cheeseburger, then they turned them into the McDoubles, which didn't have two pieces of cheese on it, then they just got rid of the pot, they was like, you know what, sorry, we're not gonna, we're not gonna, and remember you-


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[Assistant] Listen, listen, listen, I got out of dating pool before I met my wife, I was going on these dates and I was appalled at the level of how much money did it cost to go out to eat. And I was appalled that I was like, you lied on your pictures. I would have not taken you to a sit down. You lied. You used Photoshop.


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[Assistant] Nah, he'd care less. And he said because, uh, you know, there's a 15% Indian rate in our family on my mom's side that he will continue to wear Indians gear too. He said, uh, I could get that off. I said, that's fine, dad. Uhm, but he, he, uh, he was like, yeah, man, he'd be, he'd be mad at him.


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[Assistant] But he watches, he listens to all the games. He's one of them weird dudes that want to listen to it on the radio and watch it on the TV.


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[Assistant] Him and my mom have been there having dates, watching the Guardians. I'm like, this is terrible. I'm spring training. This is not cool.


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[Assistant] They're old. They're old school. They grew up around that. They only had the, you know, they only got certain multimedia around them. Like, they don't have no internet or anything. They still don't know how to really use the internet like that. But think about it. It's Jay. It's Bull. My mom and dad. These dudes is like...


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[Assistant] They don't play the brand of baseball I like. I like doubles and home runs and lots of strikeouts. If you strike out, who cares? You hit a three run bomb, we good.


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[Assistant] I like teams with edge, flair, style. I like uniforms to watch them. I like giveaways at the ballpark. I need excitement around my team. The Guardians don't do much to excite, they don't even do much to excite the fans.


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[Assistant] In baseball, there's a lot of politics. There's a lot of, you know, we hear things about clubhouse and he's a good guy at a clubhouse and, you know, guys really miss them because he just, everything is, I might listen, but I don't care about that. Like, if we want to see these prospects, that's another problem with them.


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[Assistant] It's, you got these guys and we hear about them all year. We hear about them, this guy's doing something great. This guy's really doing, he's not, but he's not going to be up here. He's a little ways off. Stop telling me that. If you're a World Series team.


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[Assistant] Then you got an excuse not to play young guys. If you're a perennial division leader, and you got guys that are Donovan Mitchell, and Darius Garland, and Evan Mobley, and they can't get Isaiah Mobley, or they can't get Imani Bates no time, we not gonna knock you.


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[Assistant] But if you're running around here looking like, uh, uh, uh, you know, a squad that, let me see whose garbage in the NBA they don't have nobody, no, no. The Wizards. You the Wizards.


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[Assistant] Okay, and Monty Bates is playing for the Wizards. Like, that's just what it is. But for the Guardians, it's like, they're not having those guys develop, we're not seeing enough of those younger guys, and it doesn't give you anybody to latch onto as a fan. Like, we want to see people grow and progress and say, yo,


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[Assistant] Just like this show, right? It's the summertime. We put new people on. You get to hear McNuggets more. You get to hear Earl more. You know, Anthony gets to do his thing. Like, people are like, oh, I like that, man. It's something different. Like, you can, you can, you can latch on to a person and say, man, he done really developed and did his thing.


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[Assistant] And these guardians be having these old vets in there taking up bat-bats and they're batting 105 and then be like, why aren't you guys coming? Well, I don't want to see that.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you about that. Outreach. Like one thing, one thing that I always thought would be great, and we talk about it, how to engage more than one, you know, more diversity in baseball and cultivate the next group of people coming up to be fans of baseball. I always thought it would be really cool if, you know,


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[Assistant] They got, you know, middle school, elementary school, high school game where they go and they make it easy.


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[Assistant] For kids to get down to the park and just watch the game. They say, listen, we're going to get you guys this high school game every single day. We're going to highlight, this is our high school team that's here and you give them an opportunity, maybe send the buses to the school, bus them from there and back so they don't got to worry about getting on the bus or nothing and just get


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[Assistant] Intercity kids, other kids here, and cultivate that type relationship because, and just to get them to endear themselves to baseball, like if there was a thing where, you know, kids in the inner city knew, hey, I could come down on this day to watch the Guardians play, it's gonna be free, my mom could drop me off at the school.


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[Assistant] Bust me here, we get free concession, we get snacks and put them in a position to watch the game. I think that can develop another generation of players.


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[Assistant] Just regular baseball players, like they just had a uniform. Like you go back and you be like, look.


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[Assistant] The best people in the game. You talk about the Frank Thomases, the Griffys, the Loftis, the Bells, the McGriffs, the Sheffields, Tony Nguyen, Dave Winfield, Barry Bonds, like, it's like,


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[Assistant] It's Craig, Ricky Henderson, Dave Stewart, like all these players, these are household names, you know what I'm saying? And it just, it's just crazy how it's declined and I don't want people to get it.


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[Assistant] I get it because it seems like you guys are complaining.


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[Assistant] And you got the, cause I put myself in other people's position. They say, when you got all basketball, you got all of, all of, all of football, dang, let us get, let us get our money off.


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[Assistant] That's why I hate it playing football. This dude got, this dude getting all the tickets. You see how they be, it's just like we'd be talking about Earl. When we say we broke. Don't do this. When we say we broke. Don't do this.


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[Assistant] No, I need, no, I need the, I need the long, I need a long distance contract. You know what I'm sayin'? You know what I'm sayin'? We gon'...


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[Assistant] You know what's in there. And, and we've been talking about he's really good help side, he's a good defender, you understand? Five blocks. Evan Mobley has the defensive ability that he should be getting two blocks a game. Yeah, I agree. He, he, he should be, if you ain't gonna give me that, he should be dominating, giving me at least two a game.


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[Assistant] Like, I wanna see if they, they're not frauds and they really will stick by this, but he could literally be a 2K guy and get every defense player in his rookie year.


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[Assistant] And Chet Holgren, he's kind of a dog too. He's like, yeaah, like, they're not thinking about, and here's the thing, that's all we want.


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[Assistant] Like if, if we gotta go on the radio and say, y'all, y'all ain't doing what you're supposed to do and y'all play like that, Jared Allen playing like that, like, if I was Jared Allen, he playing like he wanna, Jared Allen look like he said, I'm a match player.


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[Assistant] I don't understand how he's getting his money off. I think he's a top five paid center in the league. Yea, he is. Uhm, but I mean, he's getting 20s. Like, remember at one point in time, we was like, if we get eight points with Jared Allen, that's a, we didn't clap it up. Eight, eight, 10 points. I think Jared Allen out here playing like he's a dog.


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[Assistant] But if they would have stood you up and you would have said, Nuggets, here's what I want you to do. I want you to assume this is basketball, right? So you get in a stand up and you hit him with your best move.


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[Assistant] Hesitation, crossover, step back, whatever, maybe.


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[Assistant] What's up guys, uh, I like the fits all around the board today. Earl's rocking the Evan Mobley jersey. G.


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[Assistant] It is a nice joke. Mike, what did you want to get to? So yesterday, to start the show, we talked about potential alternate intro music for UCSS. And we early mentioned the song and Jason hadn't heard it.


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[Assistant] And then we talked about Super Bowl performers for next season, how Lil Wayne is, uh, champion to be the guy who performs in New Orleans, where he's from. And Jason was not super familiar with Lil Wayne, so after the show, Jason came upstairs and we showed him a few Lil Wayne songs. And, uh, let's just see, let's just say, seeing Jason,


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[Assistant] Listen, and this is the cream of the crop era of music videos, so we were playing the music videos too. Jason was, uh, all on board the whole night.


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[Assistant] No, we have enough budget to play one second of the song, so we're just going to ignore playing the song. But I just wanted to say, watching Jason in real time listen and see some of Lil Wayne's biggest hits was pretty spectacular to watch and we should do this with you after the show and we'll record you watching and listening to some Lil Wayne bangers.


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[Assistant] It comes on an NBA Cavs bet from Lip Gallagher who had a 7 part same game parlay turned 10 bucks into $160.16 in the Cavaliers 76ers game on Monday night. He said the only thing he wished


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[Assistant] Well, the big picture of who's ranked is specifically where. We don't agree with much of this list. This list is objectively terrible. This list, we disagree with. There's a bigger picture that we're going to ask a question about. Anthony, take Tagboard Full here. This is from the 33rd team in their pre-free agency quarterback rankings for the 2024.


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[Assistant] Correct, behind Desmond Ritter and Bryce Young at 26.


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[Assistant] It's reasonable. I asked the chat by the way, and before I read you the answer, we have 241 votes.


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[Assistant] I asked a simple question. How should we rank Deshaun Watson heading into 2024? Two options based on the last two seasons or based on his reputation. This is our chat, UCSS chat. All three, what do you think the results are? Your two options are based on the last two seasons or based on reputation? 50-50? G, what do you think?


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[Assistant] So we have literally a split. It is a 75-25 result based on the last two years. Which surprises me because we love our chat.


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[Assistant] There are friends, but a lot of times they are the extreme of the extreme.


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[Assistant] In giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but if they're willing to go 75-25 last two seasons, they're kind of in agreement with all three of you guys.


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[Assistant] That's why we didn't want to, like, this list was different. Well, G, let me ask you this though, because this is the second part of the question here.


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[Assistant] If the ranking was based off, what do you expect for 2024? If that's just a criteria, your ranking guys, what do you expect for them next season?


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[Assistant] Just visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS and shoot your shot. FanDuel, an official sports book partner of the NBA. And now we are thrilled to welcome on Matthew Hammacheck, the director and executive producer of the dynasty, New England Patriots, the new


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[Assistant] 10 part docu-series premieres this Friday on 216 day on Apple TV plus, the first two episodes released.


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[Assistant] On Friday and here is the director and executive producer, Matthew Hamicheck and part of the first episode.


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[Assistant] Revolves around Bill Belichick's time here in Cleveland. Matthew, thank you for taking some time to hang out with us today.


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[Assistant] Once again, you can check out the Dynasty New England Patriots on Apple TV, plus it debuts this Friday, February 16th. Matt will get you out on this one, but you spent time with Brady with Belichick in your previous work.


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[Assistant] Thank you, Matt. Once again, that debuts on Friday, the Dynastated New England Patriots. You can find it on Apple TV+.


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[Assistant] The second episode of the ultimate cab show is up online on YouTube right now. It's also on podcast form. The second episode of the ultimate two one six show debuts tomorrow with Earl the pearl. Make sure you guys tune into that.


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[Assistant] All of the ultimate Cleveland sports shows, full episodes and special team shows are also available via podcast. If you can't watch it live and you want to listen to it on a


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[Assistant] Well, speaking of players, everybody likes, we're going to talk a little Nick Chubb here. There's no dissension. No debate there. Like, don't like, everyone's a big fan of Nick Chubb. I want you guys to put yourself in Andrew Berry's shoes. You have a list of off-season priorities. It could be one to two points long, could be 55 points long.


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[Assistant] That doesn't matter for the discussion we're about to have here. Where does reworking and figuring out the Nick Chubb contract situation rank on your list of off-season priorities if you, Bolt, G, Earl, if you guys were Andrew Barry, where does figuring out the Nick Chubb situation rank you? Go ahead, Earl, you go first, start us off.


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[Assistant] This is from Marcus Moser, the cap hit of the running backs of the Super Bowl winning teams since 2000.


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[Assistant] Jason Lloyd and I discussed this last night on the Ultimate Cav Show and it's something you actually mentioned in the chat maybe a week ago, Bull. So I wanted to give you guys an opportunity. G, lifelong Cavs fan, Earl, lifelong Cavs fan.


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[Assistant] When you look at this current Cavs roster, this current iteration of the Cleveland Cavaliers, 2023-2024, winners of 17 of the last 19 games.


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[Assistant] Is this the best non-LeBron James Cavs team you've ever seen? Or does that title go to the late 80s, early 90s Cleveland Cavaliers teams?


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[Assistant] The Cavs history without LeBron are 4-14 in the playoffs. 4-14 in series. In series, yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they won one in the seventies. Right. And those teams won three. They went to the conference finals, I think once.


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[Assistant] Here's what I did, and if you agree with this, piggyback off, if you disagree, you can disagree. Here's my argument yesterday to Jason. A, I didn't watch those 80s and 90s team because I was not alive, not alive, and also not alive when they won all three. So I physically was unable to watch. So I've gone back, I've seen some clips.


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[Assistant] I looked at the makeup of those teams and compared to the makeup of this year's Cavs team to see if they had the requisite pieces to compete at the highest level.


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[Assistant] In the eighties and nineties, different era. So took that into consideration. Although I disagree that the calves have the.


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[Assistant] I also think the Cavs of the 80s, 90s lack that number one ingredient. And I think when you look at the totality and depth of this year's Cavs roster.


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[Assistant] But you had to have the one guy who when push came to shove, it was the, you know, pre Michael Jordan, but Joe Dumars in that era and Mark Price who was way before his time. I don't think was that caliber.


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[Assistant] That's on the resume. I mean it's a tick on the resume, but it's not near the top.


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[Assistant] Correct, and Donovan Mitchell for comparison has, uh, one second team.


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[Assistant] Kyrie's second team came in, I gotta go back to the tab. He was second team all NBA in 2019.


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[Assistant] His second came in 19, which he was with, uh, the Celtics.


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[Assistant] Three total, one first, two second. Oh, one, just one with the cats. And Tyree has one second, two thirds, excuse me. One second, two thirds.


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[Assistant] We're gonna do true and false in one sec, but first a tiny bit of breaking news. Ohio State has fired Chris Holtman. Do you guys care?


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[Assistant] Alright, so we haven't played True and False in a while, we're gonna bring it back today. We're not sure if Anthony knows how to do this, and or play the music, so just bear with us. If you hear someone wonky, this is Anthony's True or False directorial debut, and this is a chance for Anthony to flex his directing muscles. Today's contestant is Jared Allen. How well do you guys know Jared Allen?


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[Assistant] So we're going to keep this, this is an official record, but it does not count in the four person panel and we have Tyvis and Jay together. So let's get to it with some true and false on Jared Allen. First one, Anthony.


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[Assistant] So, alright, most of the time they're pretty accurate. Alright, number two.


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[Assistant] Jared Allen's Longhorns finished the year with an 11 and 22 record.


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[Assistant] The Brooklyn Nets made Jared Allen a lottery pick, taking him 13th overall in the 2017 NBA draft.


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[Assistant] G. Bush with true, Earl with false, Bull with false, which means somebody's gonna finally get a correct answer. The answer is false. He was the 22nd pick.


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[Assistant] I've done that before. But alright, next up, Jared Allen's father, Leonard, was drafted by the Dallas Mavericks in the 1985 NBA draft.


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[Assistant] I got true. Yeah. Bull says true. G says false. Earl says false, which means Bull, you're now in the lead. That is very true. He is the son of a former NBA player, Leonard Allen.


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[Assistant] Alright, once again, these are all, all true, or all false. There's no hacks.


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[Assistant] At 19 years and 182 days, Jared Allen was the youngest Nets player ever to make his NBA debut.


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[Assistant] Earl says false. Everyone else says true Earl.


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[Assistant] You know me too well, it is false. Derek Fabers, at 18 years old, was the youngest nest ever.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. Next up, we have three left. Jared Allen made the All-Star game, one time in his career.


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[Assistant] Alright. True for Adam the Bull. Which means we will have a new leader. Gbush, are you just passing on this question?


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[Assistant] G Bush says false. G Bush is on the board and it's false, which means Earl has taken the lead over Bull by one. It is three for Earl, two for Bull, one for G with two questions to go. I thought G already had one, no?


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[Assistant] She has two, you're right, she has two. I'm keeping score by myself.


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[Assistant] 3-2-2 with two questions left. Everyone is still alive. Question number seven. As a freshman in high school,


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[Assistant] Jared Allen ordered all the parts and built his own computer. Sure.


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[Assistant] Go into the last question. This is, this is unprecedented. Steve Becker, I know you're watching. Send me a Jared Allen tiebreaker that we will come back to at the end of the show if you guys do not declare.


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[Assistant] If we do numbers, I'll have a number one. Alright, this is the last question that I have prepared. It is three to three to three. It means all you guys don't know Jared Allen that well. And hopefully you learn better. True or false?


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[Assistant] Jared Allen has the same number of career games with three three-pointers made as Evan Mobley.


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[Assistant] He pushed as false. I just saw him shoot two bricks the other night.


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[Assistant] We go to overtime. If the answer's false, G. Bush has pulled off the miraculous comeback. Anthony, give me a drum roll, please. There it is.


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[Assistant] Oh, I was going to do Sam Merrill, because I will stand for Sam Merrill to the end of time. There's a couple other guys, you guys mentioned a lot of good ones. Any excuses to talk about old players we liked watching? And I know Merrill and Bates are current, but.


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[Assistant] We got two super chats and then I'll pass the mic to Earl for his, uh, his spotlight of the day. But two super chats. First one comes from Adam Majet. He says, Earl's about to have Bull living in the trap with its playlist. That was in reference to the- Living in the what? In the trap. Living in the trap. What does that mean?


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[Assistant] I know, man. The Clippers, this was not a back to back, they played in Boston on Saturday. They had Sunday off, so it's a rested team. They had 90% healthy. They're missing Ivanka Zubac, but he's been out for a while. Yep. And without him, they're a relatively smaller team in the front court. They have a bunch of wings, which I thought would be a bit of a mismatch for the Cavs offensively. But Isaac Kukuro's balling is, you know what, off.


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[Assistant] And we saw JB kind of stagger the minutes of Alan and Mobley, who made a 21 minutes last night, almost had a double double.


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[Assistant] I left that game very, very impressed, and I know we're gonna get into it in a sec, but if you're not buying into what this team's doing yet,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure what else they can do before the postseason starts. Well. Free to buy in.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow, it was actually tweeted out just a few minutes ago by Shams that Darius Garland's expected to make his return Wednesday night versus the Pistons. We'll talk a little bit more about that tomorrow. One thing on Bull's Point with Mitchell.


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[Assistant] The Cavs are shooting more threes than they have at any point in the game. Yep. Mitchell, last night, I don't have the number, they don't track the stat, but.


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[Assistant] He always has done that, but now that he is the ball kind of more, but it's not sticking in his hands like it had in the past, that's kind of unlocked everyone to make that one extra pass.


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[Assistant] I have your numbers here. So, as a rookie.


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[Assistant] In 2020, Evan Mobley attempted 92 threes in 69 games. So just over one three a game. Yeaah. What was his percentage?


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[Assistant] Uh, 25%. Okay, too low. Last season, 79 games, 102 threes. So same. Little bit more. It was like 1.3 versus 1.2. Right. 22%.


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[Assistant] This year in 22 games, he's only shot 10 threes. It's gone down and it's 20%.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing, for the Cavs to be at their best defensively, Mobley and Allen play together. Offensively, as currently constructed, their best lineups do not include those two. Now, to Jason's point in the article, and I agree with the premise of it,


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[Assistant] He's not a shooter yet. We've seen that to this point of his career, two and a half seasons. He's not been able to hit a consistent jump shot, but he's also 21 years old. To say he'll never be a shooter is way too early to write a


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[Assistant] Okay, Ty real quick, perfect example of that G. In Brook Lopez's first eight seasons in the NBA, first eight seasons, he took 31 threes, shot 0.97%. So less than 10%.


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[Assistant] First eight seasons, 31 total threes. That's crazy. He goes his last season in Brooklyn. They added Kevin Garnett. That was the year with, uh, not Kevin Garnett, sorry. No. But that was in 2016, 2017. They had, I forget who the big man was, but they needed him to step outside. He shot 387 threes the next year. He went from 31 in his first eight season. He shot 35%.


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[Assistant] He's just not out in the corner a ton. No he's not.


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[Assistant] Let's move on to our next topic, talk a little wide receiver options for the Cleveland Broncos. Play a game, pass out the whiteboards while I do a game time read. Because if you've ever had a difficult time or a frustrating experience buying tickets,


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so we're gonna play a little uh, a little dating game actually here. We're gonna do the Brown's free agent wide receiver dating game and it starts by you guys writing down on your board.


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[Assistant] The number one option in your mind, of all the potential free agents, not Tyrell Owens, Tybus Erasedad, let's just be serious here guys.


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[Assistant] Well I know it's not who Tivus said cause Tivus is off. Tivus is wrong. Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] And here's how it's gonna work. So now you guys have those boards, face down, while you can put it on the table. I'm gonna give you guys a list of contestants.


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[Assistant] And some characteristics about each contestant. And you're gonna see at the end if the contestant you would want the Browns to pair up with Amari Cooper is the contestant you wrote on your board beforehand. Are you guys ready?


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[Assistant] This player, the two time first team all pro, three time pro bowler. He's led the NFL in receptions twice.


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[Assistant] They won a national championship in college. Okay, how many are there? Seven.


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[Assistant] In his draft glass, he has a career long touchdown of 83 yards and in his career against the Brown says nearly 300 receiving yards and a touchdown. Contestant number five, Steve is a top 10 draft pick.


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[Assistant] Lead the NFL in yards per reception once. He won a national championship in college. He played with the Sean Watson. Contestant number six.


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[Assistant] And last but not least, Steve, contestant number seven. Oh, I know who that is. A second team All-Pro one time. He was a first round draft pick, won two national championships.


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[Assistant] I grew up on the west coast, so maybe a west coast offense.


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[Assistant] Hollywood, oh my goodness, he went with contestant number four, Steve. He could reveal four here.


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[Assistant] This is Deshaun Watson with Quincy Avery on their podcast QB Unplugged talking about T Higgins.


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[Assistant] Let me go around the horn though. We'll start with you, Jay. We'll end with bull cause Higgins will do a bigger talking off point. You chose Michael Pittman over everyone else. Why Pittman over guys like Higgins, Evans, Ridley, Thomas, those guys.


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[Assistant] I mean, the seven we made graphics were Pitman Evans, Michael Thomas, Hollywood Brown, Mike Williams, T Higgins, Calvin Ridley. Those are the seven. Michael Thomas, I know it.


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[Assistant] If we're going to take a little turn to a fun side of things, I got to know Casey Keeler very well when I worked in Texas and they had walk-ons at Sam Houston State. And for a story, I tried to walk on the football team. We recorded, I had the video, I should have had it ready. I threw one pass and he looked at me and coach Keeler goes,


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[Assistant] I heard on interview you said he likes to exaggerate the baseball story of your quitter.


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[Assistant] No, obviously not. Definitely could not. We're gonna move on and Boyle, you're gonna help us lead this next one after a quick word from Game Time. If you're trying to go to the Cavs Pistons game tomorrow and you need some last minute tickets, there's no better place to find them than GameTime.com.


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[Assistant] So Bull, I'm gonna let you lead this because you actually brought this topic up to us a couple weeks ago. We haven't done it yet, but you said, or you asked us in a pre-show meeting, is Joe Flacco on the Mount Rushmore of recent relatively modern day Cleveland athletes who will never have to buy a beer in the city for themselves again?


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[Assistant] Boy, I have one bad job out of you though. Would people recognize Ryan May?


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[Assistant] You know who else saw the Mount Rushmore of G League this season? G Bush, Amani Bates, and we're gonna talk about Amani and the Cavs coming up on the Ultimate Cleveland Cavs show, which starts on Friday, but G Bush,


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[Assistant] Paul Reed is currently hooping right now for the 76 Minimowski. He's on a roster!


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[Assistant] Probably more likely what he's gonna see moving forward. Averaging 8.5 points, 42% from 2, 42% from 3. 42% from 3 points.


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[Assistant] We got a little NFL news and then we got three super chats, but the last one is awesome. So I want to make sure we got enough time, but Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator has informed the Seahawks and commanders. He's staying in Detroit. Wow. Will not take a head coaching job. So I like that. A big move in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yes, so I had my Mondays backwards. Uh, Tivus, two more, they're both for you. The first one quick, the second one I'll spend more time on. Gucci Gourette says, Tivus, what are your thoughts as someone who played the game and some people say the game and sports in general are scripted like the Super Bowl color theory. Do you believe sports are scripted? No, the only, the only,


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[Assistant] Tivus, last super chat. No. Tivus, last super chat's for you. Tivus, this from uh, Mudd, I cannot pronounce it, Mudd Alhus Devenda, I apologize if I butchered that. Tivus, among the UCSS crew, who would you want to be your agent, your head coach, and your GM? Oh, that's great. Director Steve is the fan hating you. Oh, that's crazy. So, my agent- That's a great question.


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[Assistant] You know why I'm so mad at myself? I said all year, I kept telling you guys, Chiefs are bored, Chiefs are bored, they're gonna be fine. And then I talked myself out of it, picked the Browns.


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[Assistant] Four Super Bowls! He's got sixteen postseason wins, I think. Fourteen. Fourteen. Fourteen. Okay. Fourteen. Brady had thirty-five. Which is insane. Yeah. That's insane.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can put a grade on it right now.


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[Assistant] No, no, he's definitely a named guy. I mean, he won a national championship in college. He played here.


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[Assistant] He never called a play before he got to Buffalo at any level on any team.


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[Assistant] So he's got a year and a half experience as a play caller and that's it. And we'll get to the rest of that later. But basically, I mean, this is Josh Allen's guy. Josh picked him. And Brian Dayball was the offensive coordinator, left to go to the Giants, took the, one of the assistants with him, Shay Tierney went with him.


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[Assistant] And, and the bills basically said, and one thing that I didn't really line up the timelines I was told was,


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[Assistant] This was going on right when Aaron Rodgers was complaining in Green Bay about not having any say in, uh, any sort of decision making.


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[Assistant] And the bills basically wanted to make Josh happy. And they said, who do you want?


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[Assistant] And Josh loved Ken Dorsey. And Ken was on the field, Dave was in the booth, Ken was on the field with him.


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[Assistant] And, and they developed a rapport and, and Josh really liked them and that was his guy.


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[Assistant] And in terms of like where it all went wrong or how it all unraveled in this year and everything else, Josh apparently went through some personal things toward the end of last season.


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[Assistant] Mandate from above Ken Dorsey of


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[Assistant] Trying to make him more of a pocket passer. The Bills wanted to protect Josh. They didn't want him running as much. They wanted to just sort of restrain him for fear of injury and whatever else. That wasn't Ken's idea. Those were his marching orders. That was not Ken's idea. Yea, I think that's a bad plan. And that was his, that's what, that's what the Bills decided as an organization.


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[Assistant] They wanted to try and limit some of his exposure to injuries and runs and everything else.


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[Assistant] They fired Ken, it was really, the way it was explained to me was it was sort of, and this is, this part's true, this happens a lot when teams fire guys, it sort of was like a jolt to the locker room. And a lot of times you'll see a guy get fired, like a baseball team on a fire hitting coach.


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[Assistant] And it's just to get guys attention. And maybe it's a pressure release valve to, to let some of the pressure out of the room.


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[Assistant] And guys, when Ken was fired, guys kinda looked around like, man, we gotta get this, we gotta get this together.


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[Assistant] It really did sort of serve as a wake up call when Ken was fired.


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[Assistant] And it, and it really sort of jolted guys. And then they sort of took the shackles off of Josh a little bit. He started playing a little bit more freer, uh, toward the second half of the season after they were five and five. I mentioned briefly, there was that article that came out, uh, that really was devastating to Sean McDermott.


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[Assistant] And it really sort of rallied the locker room, so there was a lot of things at play here. I'm still not overly...


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[Assistant] I'm not blown away by the hire. I do think that they were probably waiting.


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[Assistant] On, uh, uh, who was the other guy? I just thought. Kellen Moore. Thank you. Kellen Moore. I think they're probably waiting to see what Kellen Moore decided.


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[Assistant] There are some stark differences in how Ken Dorsey calls the game and how Kevin Stefanski calls the game. And we'll get into that in a little bit.


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[Assistant] We're just doing it to do it. I mean, I'll call it a C. A nice average solid C. Right.


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[Assistant] Well Kevin, Andrew did say he thought one of Kevin's greatest strengths was play calling.


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[Assistant] Strictly a guess, and I hate guessing, but we just don't go yet. I hate guessing. I do too.


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[Assistant] I'd say Ken. I think it's gonna be Dorsey. But it's just, it's strictly a guess.


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[Assistant] I've been told you could get midway through the second quarter before you were off script depending on how things go.


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[Assistant] Oh, I know multiple off the top of my head where Baker canned out a cold, not to pick on Baker.


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[Assistant] But he called out, he checked out of plays that were, he checked into disasters. And the fans probably blamed Stavansky. No, that was Freddie. You can tell.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not who I think will, but I think it should be some fancy. Here's why I think it's gonna be Kevin. Two key things that kinda- Wait, you said you thought it was gonna be Ken. I'm sorry. Why I think it's gonna be- Two key things why I think it's gonna be Ken. Okay. Number one, Ken loves shotgun.


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[Assistant] And Kevin, we spent the whole flacko part of the show of this, of the season talking about play action under center and the success that Kevin has with play action under center. Well, that's not Ken Dorsey. Ken Dorsey is shotgun and Deshaun is shotgun.


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[Assistant] And Ken has worked with Josh Allen and Cam Newton and that very much fits the mold of what Deshaun is. So that tracks with getting someone that Deshaun is comfortable with.


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[Assistant] And this is, this was interesting. I don't know if this is really a tell on who's going to call the place.


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[Assistant] You talk about differences between Ken Dorsey and Stefanski. I was told Dorsey is not a gadget guy, trick play guy at all. Running backs run the ball, receivers catch the ball, the quarterback throws the ball. There's no, like when day ball was there, when day ball was in Buffalo, day ball liked to have fun. And you would say like, let's have fun with this. And they would have wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Trick plays where wide receivers are throwing the ball, a lot of jet sweeps, tap passes, just, just gadget, eye candy type of stuff.


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[Assistant] Kevin loves that. Loves that. That is not Ken Dorsey. Ken Dorsey is very straight, very traditional. Running backs run the ball, receivers catch the ball, the quarterbacks...


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[Assistant] Those were two things though that I thought were very telling that were told to me over the weekend. One, the shotgun versus under center play action. There's a stark difference between what Ken likes to call it and how Kevin likes to call it. And then the lack of trick plays and the Dorsey playbook.


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[Assistant] We better be markedly better next year. There were so many injuries on the offensive side of the ball. It's hard for me to say what worked and what didn't. They were in triage mode.


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[Assistant] It gets to the point last year, I talked about a lot, where by necessity, this isn't the identity they wanted, but by necessity last year, it became heavy sets, extra linemen, play action, deep shots on third down. That was their identity. Screens. But that won't be their identity next year. That will not be the identity next year.


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[Assistant] You know, the larger point that you made, Mike, that I hadn't really picked up on was the amount of former players that they're bringing onto the staff. I do think that there's something to that.


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[Assistant] No, but, but, but it hasn't been here. Like they haven't had a ton of former players here in coaching roles. They brought De'Quel in in that role of advisory type of role for last year. But prior to that, I'm trying to go through their, I mean, AVP played in the league.


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[Assistant] I crushed Baker for that for years. I did too! Dude, I'll show you how to do it. Shut your mansions off. Just shut them off. Don't even go there!


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[Assistant] I just hate it. They looked undisciplined to me. For the first time. Like Baltimore is not an undisciplined team.


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[Assistant] On s- on the second one they- when they had the, uh, first and five, right? And they jumped off sides. Oh. Terrific call to reset it. Here's what they did wrong though. But then the guy blew him up. Yeaah. He was a Patrick Queen.


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[Assistant] than the kicker that he c it's interesting to me is I'm going to take this ba Ryan Day when the big cr is that he gets conservati


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[Assistant] Yeah. Dan Campbell did not do that. No, oh no way. He stayed true to who he was. Yep. And that's how they got there. And now he gets to live with that. And it didn't work. But you know what? That's okay. Because he stayed true to who he was. He didn't shrink in the moment. He didn't change up and get scared at the last minute. Let me ask you. I bet every player on that team is happy he went for it.


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[Assistant] The calves I know are much anticipated to see this kid back on the floor. He's a big part of what they do.


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[Assistant] Well, we'll wait and see. A lot of times, in this instance, if a guy's missed a lot of time, you can bring him off the bench. But he is a starter on this team. Like, even if he comes off the bench tonight, which I don't know if he will or not. It doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] He is a starter. Yeah. Well, should he come off the bench? Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it matters. If, if you're only getting 20 minutes out of a guy, you're trying to be strategic with those 20 minutes. It's really that more than anything.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you know, it depends. Sometimes when guys are loose, you want them to start because


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[Assistant] They got a good burn in and you want to keep that sweat going. So you want to, after a pregame workout, you want to get them out there quick and get them that first run. So I might, I would imagine he starts, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. He comes off the bench first game back. I don't think it really matters. It will be interesting to see once that minutes restriction is lifted, how they juggle. I agree.


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[Assistant] I think he can do some of the things Allen was doing, yes. Now is he gonna grab 20 rebounds? 18-20 rebounds? I don't know.


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[Assistant] But, you know, I think Mobly does different things defensively better than what Jared does. So...


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[Assistant] The Cavs at their best right now, Evan Mobley is one of their best players. He has to be on the floor. They just have to figure this out. You have to figure out the Mobley and Allen thing. It doesn't mean you play them both for 30 minutes together, but there's going to be stretches where if they start a game particularly, they're both starters, they're going to start. Throw out tonight. Tonight doesn't matter in terms of this, but once he's back and the minutes are up,


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[Assistant] Him and Jared are both going to be on the floor at the start of the game. Are they both going to be on the floor at the end of the game? Not necessarily. You could close the game with one of them on the bench and one of them on the floor. Well that's where rotations are so big. It depends on the matchup. It depends on matchups. It depends on where you're at in the game. If you need a defensive stop, you're going to switch, be strategic.


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[Assistant] Offense, defense type thing. Uh, but ultimately, you know, I think it is a fair question. Can the Cavs win at a high level to non-shooting bigs on the floor together? Yeah, I think the answer to that. I don't know.


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[Assistant] But there's also, and this is what, this is the trap that you fall into. There's a big difference in a good regular season win and the playoffs.


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[Assistant] No, they did that last year. I've said that for a couple years, is you have to build good habits during the, that's what the regular season's for, is building good habits. And when you're down,


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[Assistant] What's your go-to? What's your staple play? When you're coming out of a timeout, this is what transfers from regular season to postseason.


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[Assistant] They're on a run, you're on the road, timeout, they're on an 8-0 run, you're coming out, you have an 8-0. Need a bucket. And you gotta get a bucket. What are you drawing up? What's your go-to play? Who's the inbounder? Where is it going on the floor? Who you trying to get the ball to? That's the type of stuff that you work on now that transfers over.


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[Assistant] It's not like Mobley's a stiff here. I mean, there's teams around the league that would tell me that was their best lineup. Mobley at center, four shooters around. Jared Allen was never mentioned. Jared Allen wasn't even discussing that. Well, but guess what?


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[Assistant] That's exactly. In the postseason, you can't win with these two on and these two off. In the playoffs, if you're going to win at a high level, especially Donovan and Darius, they have to figure it out. They have to work last year. You know what the Cavs regular season record was? But now they've been through it once.


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[Assistant] And Boston, Milwaukee are two teams that, I mean, Boston hasn't won a championship, but they've gone to the finals and they don't take the regular season nearly as seriously as teams like the Cavs do. But ultimately for this team to get where it wants to go, Donovan and Darius have to figure it out. They did not play well together last year. Facts.


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[Assistant] But now that you've been through it once, now, that's why you gotta get Darius back on the floor. They've had 11 games with this starting lineup together. That's it. 11. So...


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[Assistant] You could get pried with probably one of Mobley and Allen, but you have to have Donovan and Darius both on the floor together. That's a lot of...


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[Assistant] They're, they're both, this is a guard. This is a ball dominant guard driven team. They play through Donovan and Darius. All right. Do we want to do some super chat? We got some super chat.