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[Assistant] All defense, Hurst, I haven't heard a defensive tackle's name in weeks. And when you look at it, this defense is predicated on getting off blocks, being in the backfield, causing havoc.


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[Assistant] But you guys aren't picking those guys up and elevating teams to the next level. So they have to step up because Jacksonville is good. Houston is good.


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[Assistant] If they don't step their game up, that can turn into a long slide of losses.


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[Assistant] You can't, you can't spot people all those points, like, you know, and it's just not one week, it's every single week they get the ball right downfield, get the ball again right downfield, maybe get a stop, and even before halftime, they gave up points here, and we got, we got Joe Flacco,


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[Assistant] And, and rookie quarterbacks trying to fight back cause that's not a game plan. Give those guys a lead. Like give them something to be front runners. So they can pin their ears back and come back as a quarterback.


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[Assistant] McNuggets, what was that stat you brought up? You brought up a stat in a post-game show you talked about. Yesterday? Them not blitzing six-man blitzes in the top. Or they're the least blitzing team when it comes to six-man blitzes, right?


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[Assistant] It's just, they're running cover too, and...


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[Assistant] They're a horrible zone team. It's almost like they've never seen it.


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[Assistant] And people talk about Joe Woods, right? And Joe Woods likes to run a lot of Zone coverage, right?


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[Assistant] If you look at it, maybe Joe Woods gets vindicated because... I'm not ready to go that far.


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[Assistant] Maybe he's, I mean, but these are, you don't see these big splash plays on no other teams. These plays are just happening 70 yards? That's not normal. Like, you're giving that up and it is demoralizing because guess what? Before that happened, Joe Flacco comes down,


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[Assistant] Leads you, guy has a drive, you're like, wow, this is looking great. And the defense in two plays won't deflace the whole building.


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[Assistant] Jay, if we gonna be on this show next year, if we here, I'ma tell you this, I've already made my mind up.


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[Assistant] If I do my radio show and you call in and there's any rumors about the Browns going after any free agent receivers, moving up in a draft to get a receiver, and you say, we don't, I'm cutting you off, are you getting off the airwaves? That we don't. That we don't.


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[Assistant] I am sick of it. I am tired of it. We heard it this whole off season. We heard it this season. We heard it all off season and every single week we go into these, these games in a gun fight with a knife, with a butter knife and we see what we have and then when people get hurt,


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[Assistant] I'm talking about the Browns receiving court compared to anybody in the league.


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[Assistant] Wonder when the Mario Cooper got sandwiched, that was a drop.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I said earlier, I thought Joe Flacco should have played over at ECR. I said, I've been begging for a veteran to get in here from weeks ago. I thought Joe Flacco would play exactly the way he did. The only thing I said was, hey.


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[Assistant] Are you going to, is he going to throw you an interception or is there going to be something with maybe a couple of times during the game where he has ball security issues? Uhm, but overall, I thought he did a great job. To me, he's starting the rest of the year. And uhm- Oh really? Oh yeaah. Yeaah. For me, like, he's starting the rest of the year.


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[Assistant] I had em, I had, I actually had em, it was crazy. I had em at an A- until the interception.


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[Assistant] I'ma be honest with you, man. I was talking to Earl, like, and we was on the chat, and I said, look.


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[Assistant] This is one of the better games I've seen any other quarterbacks play. All of them.


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[Assistant] Now I will say, here's the thing, and the reason I elevate him too is, we heard about the Deshaun Watson Russ. Now I'm a Deshaun Watson fan, I think he's, he's, he's that guy. But, Joe Flacco came off the street, off the couch, and looked like that.


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[Assistant] Right, look, at least, at least, at least, at least Flacco has put the bad, the rusting. If you not playing well, you just not playing well. But like you said, that ball to Mark Cooper that he threw down the middle,


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[Assistant] That was a dart. The ball in the play action, Elijah Moore, that was a dart. And the way they came out and ran the play action, we were asking all year. It worked. What we're seeing, that is what Kevin Sufanski's playbook is.


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[Assistant] The reason I think he did it was, if you look at that game, the one thing that I liked the most from Flacco was, anytime there was pressure, anytime he didn't have anything, what'd he do?


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[Assistant] I'm throwing the ball around. And I think that Kevin Stefanski, when you're calling that play, if you're seeing how Joe is handling it and he likes the way he's playing, he's thinking, okay, let me call this deep shot. If Joe doesn't have it, he's going to be smart with it.


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[Assistant] It's up to that point and get rid of it and we can come back and run the ball on that second play. Uhm, and I think in the flow of the game, that's what he was thinking. He was going to give him that liberty because he's a veteran and he had made the right play. I think Joe got a little excited in the pocket.


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing. I think, you know, the same as Deshaun Watson. He gave Deshaun Watson that liberty to, you know, go down the field and do it. I think in the case of


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski, I don't look at it as, now if he would have done that with PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] Then I can understand why fans would be screaming. But if you do that with Deshaun Watson or Joe Flacco, the veterans, you know they can make the throw. You just put it on their plate and hope they make the throw. You made the wrong choice.


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[Assistant] We were talking about it, I don't think I take away from this game is this. Uhm, they want to, you know, Deshaun Watson is more comfortable with shotgun and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] But that's not, I feel like that's not Kevin's to Fancy's forte. That's not...


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[Assistant] It just seems like that playbook they promised us is a bunch of shotgun plays thrown in with no concept, with no mixing. Uhm, and it just doesn't seem like Kevin is comfortable in that world. Where he is comfortable, it gave me shades of 2020.


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[Assistant] When I saw him running us the playbook, I saw, remember we talked about, we're having all these bootleg shows. I know, I know. When we talk about what happens to the play action with, with Deshaun Larson.


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[Assistant] I thought they had a lot of Jacobi Berset plays in there too. They threw the ball down the seams a lot more. This will be very interesting to see how this translates because next year as you have Deshaun Watson,


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[Assistant] They still have to come back and figure out an identity as to what the offense is, because you still didn't see what it was. You still don't under- I don't know what they do with Watson, uh, or what they do best, but-


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[Assistant] So a lot of people want to just go all or nothing on Stefanski. Like, I can't do it. Like, when you watch football and you play football, you know, I don't care about narratives. At the end of the day, I just gotta talk about what I see. And the play action was actually a brilliant situation because it neutralized


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[Assistant] Aaron Donald. They actually started having the PlayAction fate.


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[Assistant] He, he, he does, Stefanski has some stuff that he does really well. Sometimes he has the brain farts, like you, you think about the, I, I don't know why he, uh, you know, went for it and he had the three timeouts and a two minute warning. And can we talk about the challenge too? Yeah, that was terrible.


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[Assistant] There was no way, there was no way you could call that. Like that, that happens. That's great. What was the downing distance in that?


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[Assistant] It does not, it's ridiculous that they want to keep, that's what makes people have to, that's why I don't like certain things.


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[Assistant] There's certain bodies that, that, that do things that make people come up with conspiracy theories. Right. Like, they could debunk a lot of it and just not even get into it about every game is rigged. Yeah. By just putting the dog on tech. Now, they do it in tennis all the time, bro. I don't know. Like, just stop doing, like.


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[Assistant] You gotta be very, you have to be very good. You better be elite. And you better have elite receivers. Because that means they know you gotta be able to get up press covers. You gotta be able to put the ball into a place where they can't get it and you can move the ball. You systematically down the field and you gotta be able to do that consistently.


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[Assistant] The Browns won't have that. We did. We're missing one thing. And we spoke about it earlier. Is if you got receivers...


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[Assistant] Who aren't good. And you break it down by playmakers. I watch these other teams, there's deep threats, there's playmakers. If you are going to be throwing the ball, you gotta have some of those guys. So, eh, but, but, you're right, but if you leave the league in drops,


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[Assistant] I concede to the great gentleman from New Jersey.


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[Assistant] There's no, you look at other teams, uhm, and you look at what the Browns are missing. Teams that are missing their guys, they're done. Like, you know, teams that, you know.


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[Assistant] They wrong around, but you know, generally speaking, you lose your quarterback, you lose all these other people, you're done. I'll give them credit because, you know, you, you could, you could pick here or there and I've been, you know, one of the people who, who has been vocal about some of the stuff that Kevin Savancey does.


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[Assistant] There's nobody that has been as competitive with the multitude of quarterbacks. The PJ Walkers, that's a journeyman guy, right? He's at the Gambit, right? I wouldn't even call him a journeyman. He doesn't belong in the NFL. He's been around.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson was supposed to be the guy. You had to get him ready. You lose him for the season. You don't even know if he's going to be a play with the shoulder. Then you have a rookie, DTR. You have to adjust to a rookie. Come up with a game plan for him.


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[Assistant] And now you got Joe Flacco who's older than me and you and he's off the, off the couch throwing ball, throwing the football. So he's done a good job of.


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[Assistant] And the brown ceiling, to be honest with you, is playoffs, right?


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[Assistant] If they go to the playoffs and have a competitive first round game, everybody will be excited.


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[Assistant] So these games in the minutiae, yes, sucks that you lost to the Rams, sucks that you lost to the Broncos, but guess what? You're seven and five. If you come back, you got another chance to ride the ship. You go get eight wins. This ain't like me. Like I'm, I want to win at all costs every week, but.


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[Assistant] You gotta be honest with yourself and what we're dealing with at this point. They just need to find a way to limp into the playoffs. And if you get to the playoffs, you got a different feeling about the whole season.


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[Assistant] But he's gonna get votes. That's why to be...


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[Assistant] I get up and watch the Browns, I'm ex- it's weird because like, I know that they got deficiencies, but sometimes when you watch your team with deficiencies, it gives you a different perspective.


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[Assistant] And I'm, I get up and I watch him and I've seen some good things, I've seen some bad things. Uhm, but you know, Bull can say, hey look, you probably don't have the same amount of vitriol when you're watching The Bengals. Or angst, because Joe Burrow's not there, right? Are you watching it like, going crazy?


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[Assistant] I mean, I've seen it, you know, I've seen Pouncy snap the ball over Ben Roethlisberger's head, like, and I'm like, oh my God, it's 7-0. Like, crazier things have happened.


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[Assistant] You know, anytime you talk about kickers, you know, it's baked in. Like I think Hopkins has been, you know, money the rest of, pretty much the whole season. It's a kicker.


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[Assistant] Yeah, those are the two only ones. And they were massive. I mean, and, you know, they, you want guys to be 100%?


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[Assistant] But you realize, it's almost like, you know, for them, it's a small sample size, but to them that's an incomplete pass. Like, okay, you miss work from 30.


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[Assistant] I would rather, I would rather you miss a field goal during the regular season.


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[Assistant] Dana miss it in the playoffs when it counts.


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[Assistant] Like, if you gonna miss a couple here or there, I want you to be lights out. But that's just the way the sample size works.


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[Assistant] We used to take it bad back in the day when kickers used to miss. Now it just seems like...


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[Assistant] On extra points or field goals, like the players don't, they almost take it as if they make it as house money.


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[Assistant] But they don't trip out and freak out like when they miss like kicks. Which is weird because it feels like, because kickers are more accurate than ever. Right. It feels that way.


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[Assistant] I mean, he goes high on dudes. You like, man, you can't be going high on dudes like that, man. He's just... But he's a special corner. Yeaah, he is.


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[Assistant] We talked about Deion, man. That transfer portal was striking. Deion had like four or five decommits.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they probably made it. I know the coaches don't think so. Because they completely fell apart.


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[Assistant] DTR and Deshaun Watson is way younger than Joe Flacco and they've done too.


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[Assistant] It's terrible. I think one of the reasons the people, the committee, uh, gets a lot of, you know, whether it's right or wrong, I think people are mad at the fact that they say, the reason we didn't put you in is because your quarterback was hurt.


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[Assistant] For players on the team for the intent of what sportsmanship is, it's, we just saw Ohio State


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[Assistant] So, you know, when you say, look, hey, everybody want a chance to prove it on the field. And you know what, the good thing about it is, I'm glad. I don't want nobody voting. I don't like no sports anymore.


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[Assistant] Who beat them by a field goal. And they had not lost in three years. Almost. I know.


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[Assistant] You can't stockpile seven quarterbacks and then be like, we going to promise all of y'all, y'all going to play.


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[Assistant] He's still gonna be an NFL guy. He does not, I keep, y'all keep forgetting, I mean, his daddy was, he's been rich. That's true, he don't need the money. No. But why wouldn't you want to go to the NFL?


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[Assistant] Man, the last time somebody told me that, we was all at home and I had seen Mike Dawes. We was out in the streets.


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[Assistant] And he was like, yea, I'm coming back. I said, bro, you stupid. I was like, for what? I said, you know you still poor, right?


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[Assistant] Don't get paid. Like, you got like five bucks right now. Like, you can't even like, he's like, nah, I'mma come back. And like, he did come back and they did win the national championship, but. It doesn't always work out. It don't be working like that. Cardell Jones, I beat, every time I beat Cardell Jones.


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[Assistant] They don't- It's bad. I don't really see how Michigan be winning. Like, they be running offense like-


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[Assistant] As an Ohio State, what y'all wish for is they get smoked by Alabama, but J.J. McCarthy plays well and then he goes to the league.


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[Assistant] You know, when I grew up, Cleveland was the major hub of everything, right? It was big. I grew up in Canton, Ohio. Uhm, and as I've grown, you start to see more and more people leaving Cleveland, leaving some of these places. Uhm, what are some things, ideas you have to get people, not only not to leave, but get people drawn back into the city?


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[Assistant] We, uh, go ahead. No, well, I was saying, you know, I go back and you look at the Cleveland Browns leaving the first time there was a different, like a delicate balance between, hey, we want you here, but we want you to pay your fair share. What does that look like? And is that coming to play when they are invested in Milwaukee?


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[Assistant] They had marijuana, legalizing marijuana on the ballot.


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[Assistant] What does that look like from an infrastructure standpoint in the financial ramifications of that being legalized? Do we have any, any idea of how, you know, how that looks inside, uh, the city and what's going, where do we go from here with that?


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[Assistant] Strong. To piggyback that, do you, uhm, are you for universal background checks?


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[Assistant] Hey man, I'm so happy man. Like, listen, we really made a deal though. Like, we really did get Kelsey, right?


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[Assistant] The black people did. Uhm. Wait a minute, what? We traded Will Smith for Kelsey in the second round. Oh yea. And his dividends have paid off. You passed on Will Smith now. Yes. He lost his card. Listen, we amnesty Will Smith. Yea.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not buying the browns. That will go to Matt Colleague. Did you, did you just turn Jimmy Haslund into Dr. Manhattan?


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[Assistant] Knock it down from seven. If they sign him, uh, when he is done with me in Kansas City, just think. He can take all the direct snaps he can have. Yeaah, he can replace Harrison. We have Travis Kelsey. Why do we need to throw it to him? Why not direct snap it to him?


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[Assistant] I can't put him back out there like that, man. You know, the wheels didn't fell off on PJ. He got us to win. Shout out to him. No disrespect to him. I thought he played well against Seattle. Obviously played well.


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[Assistant] Enough to win against the 49ers at home, but, uh, now it's down to the nitty gritty and, uh, these games all count.


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[Assistant] Well I believe, I believe it's part of that, but you can look at it and you say how does it happen? Well look, in baseball, you can have a couple rough outings, you can give up a lot of hits, but your team gives you run support, right? You just, you just happen. It was the cal-quantral effect. Right, absolutely.


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[Assistant] Every fourth day, they get nine runs for this guy? And get one for Shane B. So, so when you P.J. Walker and you mess around and your defense is pitching shutouts.


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[Assistant] And you, you, you happen to get some splash plays and, and all of a sudden the referees give the Browns some calls. You look, you look mighty good with the Browns.


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[Assistant] As a play caller, sometimes when you got guys that can move around and dance and make some plays with their feet, you're like, okay, it's not that bad, if it's, you know, he's thinking like we just said. If it's nothing there, pull it down and run.


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[Assistant] But now you got Joe Flacco. That option's off the table. So now you need to be disciplined and say, I know we're not getting what we need to get, uhm, for the run game, uhm, but I want to continue to go back at it so we can give ourselves a chance to be above the sticks. And by the way, Kevin, listen, listen, isn't that no harm? Can we see some Pierre Strong? Can we? Just one time.


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[Assistant] Dale will go to the, they'll die on that hill because we drafted a guy, we thought he was going to be the backup for Nick Chubb, when obviously,


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[Assistant] I think they're enamored with the home run ability a little bit. Like he hit a couple home runs against the Steelers. He ran against the Colts, uh, Seahawks, right? So he's living on a prayer. He's living on his past, bro. Like he's living on them old press clippings.


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[Assistant] I would like to see Pierre Strong because I think he has a more conducive running style to what you gotta do. And that's run the ball and stay ahead of the sticks.


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[Assistant] They got a pass interference. They did. He had to stop and the defensive back ran into him.


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[Assistant] We don't have one. What is it more likely that you're gonna see a game where Joe Flacco, you'd be like, oh my goodness, Joe Flacco's ballin' or oh goodness, this is bad? Yeah. Which is more likely?


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[Assistant] And he, he did now because they didn't, they didn't give him a call. He said, I thought I had something left. I didn't get a call. He said the phone didn't ring. The phone didn't ring. And so now when he going out, every single practice rep, every single meeting,


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[Assistant] We, we, we skip over this. He knows the AFC North, like the back of his head. It was his division. He's won big games in Cleveland, and he's won a Super Bowl, and he's got hot before. There's value in that. There's value when you come into that, into the, uh, you know, the huddle and you say we gonna run this play.


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[Assistant] Your phone doesn't ring anymore and you kinda imagine that that's it. I had a nice career and this is it. And then you get that call, kinda like Kareem Hunt got, and he comes back and he's rejuvenated. Do you think there's a little piece of Joe Flacco that's like,


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[Assistant] He's gonna cherish this opportunity and really make it special for him because he didn't expect to be here.


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[Assistant] I said this to Jay about, I think about maybe two days ago, we were off camera and I said, you know what?


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[Assistant] Brown's gotta make the playoffs this year. And we looked around and he was like, why, why you say that? And I was like, well, if they don't make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] You're going to have a whole year of more Deshaun Watson talk. You're going to have a whole other year. You don't know what Chubb is doing. You really don't have, uh, you have question marks again about what is the offense. Are we running the right offense? And if you make the playoffs this year,


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[Assistant] That'd be funny when somebody do, do knock on your door though. Like they'd be like knocking and uh, you don't be expecting nobody. I'd be like on some inspector gadget stuff. Like who is this? I don't owe nobody.


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[Assistant] So it has a lot to do with just recognizing film work.


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[Assistant] Even when we go, you know, I'll go back to high school. We used to play St. Ignatius and uhm, the first few years we played them, they just were better. They just, they just never made any mistakes.


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[Assistant] Uh, they just executed better than we did, but after a while, just being inner city kids, like we, we understood what we had to do to switch our game up. We was like, we gotta, we gotta study this stuff. Like we can't, you can't just come out there and just beat.


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[Assistant] No chuck Kyle T and just feel like you gonna win that. And I kind of feel like just the way with Glenville now, once you get there and you win it once.


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[Assistant] You start to get it with a different attitude. Like when you get down in a huddle, in a huddle, it don't matter if you down 5, 10 points. It's just like, alright, we got it. It's a different type of swag that you get because you know you have that bank to your memory like, I've done this before. But the first time you come to the line of scrimmage,


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[Assistant] I used to be looking around, we used to have our linebacker, he was like a Rhodes Scholar, we had Kenton State, his name was Steve Smith, shout out to Steve Smith by the way, and he used to play center, and uh, he played center at Kenton State, and I used to come up to the line, and I used to ask him like, every play, I'm like, who I got?


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[Assistant] Well, that's what Jason said Dewan Jones was doing with Wyatt Teller. Right. So, so think about that. Like, is the difference between...


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[Assistant] You come into the line and all five guys know what you're doing. All five of them. And your receivers know what you do. And the quarterback knows and sees and understands. Well, for much of the year, the Browns


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[Assistant] When the browser's rolling and they had Kareem Hunt, you had Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] And you had Deirdre Johnson, right? I remember the game I watched them and it was peak, it was peak to me, Stefanski. The game they played against the Dallas Cowboys.


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[Assistant] And the great thing about Safanski is I don't really know if he has a playbook. We laugh at him all the time because we thought we was getting a new one.


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[Assistant] But the one thing you can say for him, he's called place for a whole gambit of quarterbacks, whether it's Berset or, or, or Josh Dobbs or, or, you know. Now PJ Walker, DT.


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[Assistant] The equivalent of what we have now is if, if the bangles lost, burrow and chase.


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[Assistant] Man, at the time, when you lose Nick Chubb, I thought it was horrible.


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[Assistant] But I like it now because yes you did lose to them in the second week, but the way it started to shake out.


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[Assistant] You already have the AFC North or the Hayes in the barn pretty much. Like you already played all your AFC North teams and they found out, found a way to get the split. I thought it worked out pretty well. I don't want to play them the last game of the season. We would get them out of the way and just mess with the other teams.


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[Assistant] For me, I would have been, uh, you know, interesting to see if Deshaun Watson played that first game and he wasn't hurt.


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[Assistant] He was coming off his best game against Tennessee. You get the Ravens at home, the defense was like they were playing lights out. And it was kind of almost like the DTR thing just was just like boom. DTR was playing like woah, woah.


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[Assistant] And so here's the thing, you get that, that happens.


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[Assistant] DTR plays the game and then you follow right back up to next week against a 5-0 team in the San Francisco 49ers. And I'm thinking it's schedule gods. We're in trouble.


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[Assistant] The way I saw him play against the, the, the Bengals, it was, it was one of them fight or flight things, like, I'm like, if you lose to them and get blown up out of here,


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[Assistant] I mean, we could be talking about four and something, but the defense came up, they did what they needed to do, and I think it was one of those points where there's always like seven or eight, nine, ten points where, at a season where you can give up.


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[Assistant] And I thought the Browns could have gave up because Nick Chubb was out. I thought they could have gave up after Deshaun Watson was out and DTR got beat up, but they didn't. So uhm, I thought it was the schedule guys were nasty to them, but I thought they showed some resiliency.


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[Assistant] Fighting before the game, and it was almost like they got themselves out of their mojo. I'm like, usually the 49ers just come in here, block you, tackle you, and go home. Do their business and go. So I think that catapulted Browns to play a little harder.


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[Assistant] But I think that put him in a tailspin, because after that, Trent Williams hurt, Deebo Samuels hurt, McCaffrey came out of the game, banged up, and Brock Purdy finally looked like he was a guy who had- He made a mistake. He made mistakes that game.


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[Assistant] I think we came in feeling real good about it, but that was John Watson five plays and he's out and then Gardner mentioned he was running read option down the field. We're like, oh, there's one of these trap games where I pulled that rabbit out of a hat.


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[Assistant] I picked him to lose that game. Coming off of Indianapolis, uhm, they kinda like played to a point where they could've lost that game. You go to Seattle, they'll never play well in Seattle.


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[Assistant] The crowd, you gotta go to the west coast. Uhm, and surprisingly, they kept the game closed, but that game was kinda out of the, out of the, you know, out of here when they gave up to 14 or 17 points and I think it was first quarter.


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[Assistant] It's, it's almost like I can see it in my, my, my head, you know, them scoring points or, you know, catching touchdown passes and the game looks like it's a little fast. Uhm, the Browns have to play at a certain, certain pace this game. And to be truthful, if I'm looking at this game,


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[Assistant] This might be one of the most, this is the game that really, really actually matters. Because there's no way you're not making the playoffs if you're 8-4. You'll find a way. You've got the bears to...


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, just, now you, and then what it does is put emphasis on these two games. Now you gotta really split and get one of the Jacksonville games. Or Houston. Or Houston. You do.


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[Assistant] Those games look like they were like, I got Jacksonville at home, they've been playing well, and Houston is the anomaly. Houston, like, uh, like, they play like a veteran team. With a rookie coach and a rookie quarterback and a rookie defensive end, they just, it's different. And it's at Houston. Which I don't like. How is it at Houston?


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[Assistant] Much, much higher. In the Browns, like, I don't, I don't know, don't know about y'all, but man, I'll be watching these games and I'm hype.


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[Assistant] Every, like, there is not, we've had one game where it's like, okay, we had the Cardinals game. Every game's been closed down to the wire. Every other game? It's 52 hours of stress.


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[Assistant] My wife won't watch it though, but she says, I can't, I can't do it though. I like, I love it, but I want to look, but I don't want to, but it's too nerve wracking. And I'm like, I'm with you. Like, cause look, even the games, even game, Aaron Rodgers is practicing now.


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[Assistant] Hey, I look at, listen, I be looking at it like this. Sometimes people be needing to save their job.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I like, Salah, you're a defensive guy. I, I, there's doctors, right? I saw this doctor who does, you know, kind of tells about the injuries and he goes, well, listen, they, you know, they got this new procedure on their Achilles. Usually they just snip it.


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[Assistant] And sew it up, but now they got it where they reinforced it, sew it up and plant it and staple it down to your heel, like he's moving well, like I wouldn't be, it wouldn't be over the top this thing that he could play.


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[Assistant] Why is he, you know, it's kinda funny, it's not a quarterback injury thing, but.


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[Assistant] I mean, these quarterbacks are getting injured and you can't touch a quarterback now. These guys are getting injured more. Think about the amount of quarterbacks that are just out, just, just not, just not there.


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[Assistant] And if you think, if you said something with Aditi, this reminds me of the NBA season last year.


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[Assistant] How the heck did the Miami Heat make it to the finals? I don't know. I don't know how at all.


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[Assistant] But, it's just, it just reminds me of that. If you look at the, that's why I keep just saying, like, Brian's gotta make the playoffs. Just get there, man.


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[Assistant] Because the Herbert's of the world, it looks like the Bills look like they want to try to make the playoffs. They might be the best team and they might be left out. Left out. If you don't got to see Herbert, you don't got to see Burrow, you don't got to see Josh Allen. This is the year to be in a playoff. This is the year!


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[Assistant] I used to, I used to be petrified. It was like one of them things where, you know, when you were younger and your dad used to come down the stairs and say, let me talk to you. He's much bigger than you. You're like, dang. It had a little more gravity to it, right?


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[Assistant] I'm seeing them have to work to get down the field. Like, to, like, it started in Longs, but Holmes got it. Before, you gotta think about it. When they had Kelsey and Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] Ain't it funny though, ain't it funny if you, in the years of your relationship, if Jay's wife says, hey, we need to talk, it's a different from yours, right? I don't think she's ever done that.


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[Assistant] Like you did, man. Listen. Tone is everything. But now you learn, you don't.


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[Assistant] He was like, it's Rose Bush Bush. I'm like, no, there's not two words.


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[Assistant] Uhm, me is, uh, any Rams receiver versus Greg Newsom. You're scared now, aren't you?


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[Assistant] Double barrel where they can come at you with Cooper Cup or now Nakua. Yeaah, yeaah. That could be bad. And here's the thing, I think one thing that they do well, and I, you know, you talk about McVeigh,


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[Assistant] They seem to always get some shot plays in. They always seem to...


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[Assistant] It's just get your, get a guy isolated and throw it up there.


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[Assistant] Because it's, it's, it's so much that can happen. Illegal contact, holding, interference, past interference. So it, now, now on offense, it's just about shifting and say, okay, if I can get my guy on one-on-one with you and throw it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's Nikua. And I'll say this, you know, I was talking to Tigus at a barbershop on, uh, I believe it was, uh, Monday. I said, look.


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[Assistant] Uh, Denzel Ward is the difference between this defense being good or elite. Because- We saw it. We saw it. We saw that. Like, because, you know, if they can't play man-to-man coverage and slide Newsome into the slot and do what they do and J.O.K. knows guys, it's just a different, it's a different, uh, look. It's just-


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[Assistant] Schwarzenegger. There's, there's, there's a, there's, I believe this. Like, is there, is it chicken or egg? Is, is a player born special?


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[Assistant] And then they just do what they want to. Or is it, players are always, you know, they're about even, you know, give or take. They, all of them are athletic, all of them are mentality. It just takes, uh, the right coach to let them do certain things. And I truly believe that it, it's a lot to do with coaching. I know a lot of people don't put any, you know, merit in it. They think it's just all the players, but.


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[Assistant] You know, there, there is no Steph Curry without Steve Kerr. There is no... You know, there is no like...


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[Assistant] But like, he right. Patrick Mahomes, I don't think... Patrick Mahomes is meant for Andy Reid. You know why? Because Andy Reid is gonna let him do that. We just go back and listen to Bernie Cozart.


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[Assistant] Bernie obviously knew what he was doing, but Bill Belichick knew what he was doing too. Sometimes you just don't mix and match.


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[Assistant] You know, I used to have, I didn't have so many surgeries that like I remember having like low self-esteem. Like I used to be like, man, am I injury prone or like what is it? Like how come I'm like,


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[Assistant] I used to be able to go, like, when I was younger, I would be, I would go play two days, but then go play pickup basketball, like, during the day. And not get hurt. And not get hurt, no, and, and, uh, you know, my orthopedic surgeon, he said, uh, no, um, your body isn't meant to play a game like football. So it's just a matter of time you're going to get hurt.


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[Assistant] You play football, you will get hurt. It just wouldn't matter. It's a gladiator sport.


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[Assistant] You gotta think about it like this. Like, I always tell people, like,


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[Assistant] Office of Lyman, and like these people, the TV doesn't give it justice. They're huge. Do you know? Aliens. Joe Boltonio will run a regular human down.


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[Assistant] And they just keep getting faster. They keep getting bigger and stronger. I'd go to the field and look at them and find there's no way I could play right now. None.


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[Assistant] So it happened, Miles Garrett, they said he was not injured for the year. Everybody was happy. It happened right at the end of the barbershop. Did a little 15 minutes and everybody was cool to go. That's right.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what man, that is an intriguing offer. It is an intriguing offer. Cause you know how much we love the east side of Cleveland. The Heights, Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights. You already know brother. Uhm, I'm not gonna lie, situation's pretty good in Kansas City.


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[Assistant] On arrival. On arrival. That shit's legendary, man. You already know. Uhm, that was the original dream though. You already know. When they brought the team back, like,


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[Assistant] I remember, I think I cried in Coach Chudzinski's face when I was getting drafted to like, please let me fucking play for Cleveland. It was like one of my dreams to play for the Browns.


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[Assistant] You already know man, I'll tell you what, I'll consider it if Jason considers it too though.


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[Assistant] You already know. You already know. It's Heights. It's the Heights. Cleveland Heights Shaker Heights. We just split it five piece.


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[Assistant] You know the real ones that get back to you, dawg. You're the best, bro. I appreciate you giving the shout, uh, shout out to Cleveland, shout out to the Browns, shout out to the Eastside forever, baby. Yeah, baby. Later. Later.


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[Assistant] Listen, we gonna have to set it up where we get my man Omar and I want to do it where he bring, I want to do it where he brings it here. I want him to cook it somewhere and bring it here.


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[Assistant] Later than that? Okay. Well, it was the year Brandon Wheat was here. It was like, it was like in his second year. Uhm, and Brian Hoyer comes in, right? Right. And Brian Hoyer for, I guess, five or six games is like lightening it up. They have a Thursday night game against the Buffalo Bill and Brian Hoyer tears his ACL.


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[Assistant] Then you got, uh, Brian Hoyer, who was playing well, and he was like, oh, we was excited. He gets injured. So now they're down to the third quarterback.


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[Assistant] Long story short is, you know, Mike Petten started off very well during those few games. It looked like the Browns were going to make the playoffs and then all of a sudden they fell apart because the guy that gave them the spark plug wasn't there anymore. So I look at this thing with DTR.


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[Assistant] Give him his opportunity to keep moving the chains. Give him the opportunity to keep getting better every single, uhm, game. And if he can do that, you just leave him in and rock with it.


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[Assistant] But you always know that if he plays, he's playing in a game that he's playing terrible and you gotta win it and you think Joe Flacco gives you the best chance to win on a couple drives or in a game.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco has an experience level to do it, so I think it's the best of both worlds.


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[Assistant] So DeeDee, we gotta get to this. We got to. I thought, you see, you knew what we was gonna come with right when we started. Bull, he dropped the ball on it.


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[Assistant] Didi, uhm, two-pronged question here, even though they say in the industry you never ask two questions, you only go get one half answer.


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[Assistant] Do you, uh, do you think the bangles are finished? And two...


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[Assistant] Are you starting to worry about Joe Burrow and his long term health?


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[Assistant] It's different people, it's different coaches, it's different players. It just sticks with you like, it's like that headcanon that you do like, you know what, maybe it's something to it, but no, it is, it is a relieving to it. It comes down to this, how many points are they going to be able to score?


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[Assistant] They ran stick routes. They had speed outs.


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[Assistant] Let me run something by you. Let me see what you think about this theory. My theory was, you know, they wanted to get it to the last second. They wanted to get it to the fourth quarter where they didn't give Pittsburgh enough time to come back like they usually do and steal the thunder.


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[Assistant] My thing was, I think he limited the vertical routes because the first three quarters, he wasn't pushing the ball nowhere. Like it was just the same little routes and sit down stuff.


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[Assistant] That throw to Elijah, uh, Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] It almost seems like when defense is getting to like prevent, I don't want to say prevent, but when you're on a last drive, defensive coordinators will put it in conundrum.


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[Assistant] They understand that, yes, they have only been throwing short all game, but if you unleash those longer routes,


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[Assistant] He could just throw a 50-50 ball up there, and that's a 60-yard penalty. So they tend to back off a little bit, and they tend to chill out a little more because they don't want the deep classes, which then gives you enough opportunity to throw the routes that were there earlier. So it was almost like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] We know we won't give you no routes, but this last drive you gonna get these routes, and you gonna give us some cushion. And he almost banked on the fact that he'd be able to move the ball.


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[Assistant] He played really well this week. He definitely played really well. Who do we play week two? Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] No, who missed right at the line? He missed on Warren in the hole. I know, I saw him do that. Somebody got it. Greg Newsom missed on that tackle the long one.


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[Assistant] I'm going to say week 11, because I'm going to say week 11.


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[Assistant] Cause I don't remember him getting no touches of Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] He caught all the rocks this game. Well, he did have a ball go over his head. That's true.


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[Assistant] Did he have like a long run in the, in week two? Yeaah. Guys, when you watch it, when you watch the film on him, Debbie holds like,


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[Assistant] His, he don't, his peripheral vision is just, it's just not.


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[Assistant] I've been, we've been force-fed that, that narrative. We've been force-fed that lineage. The Rooney's and just, just, let's, let's marvel at the stability.


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[Assistant] That they, that they provide. Let's, let's marvel at the consistency in which they've won football games in Pittsburgh. They have an identity. They have a way of doing it. Shut up!


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[Assistant] To give your carries through Cash App to Warren. That's exactly what they should be doing. I'm just excited, Bull, because these dudes is trash.


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[Assistant] They don't have a quarterback. They're spinning their wheels and they're at the best, they're at the place where we know. We know what the feeling is. Where you got a quarterback and you're trying to talk yourself into it. That's right. We've been there many times.


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[Assistant] Man, I look at it, you know, I watch that game and I'm watching, uhm, the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm watching the Kansas City Chiefs and I'm looking around and I'm like...


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[Assistant] It's not the same Chief Squad. It's not. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So that's the great thing about the Browns. What they do in cold weather or nasty weather is, I mean, it fits what they do. It fits the way they're constituted, the way the roster is put together. And when you talk about the defense,


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[Assistant] It's almost unfair on third downs. Like the Browns on third down, they can give up six yards and they're like, alright, well you give up six yards and then we give up two yards, that's eight. Third and twos for the Browns are tough.


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[Assistant] Like, teams are like, I don't know if we can run this, I don't know if we can pass it. Especially if it's like third and four or more. They're putting their ears back. You gotta get creative against the Browns. And the way they control the ball.


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[Assistant] You gonna start to be like, listen, we gotta get antsy for points. Like, we gotta really, cause 17 to 3, that's, that's, in the second half, that's devastating.


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[Assistant] At what, at what stage, I'm gonna ask you guys this question, at what stage would you legitimately start thinking


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[Assistant] That the Browns have a shot at the number one scene. What would they have to do?


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[Assistant] Because I was telling my dad, I was telling my dad, I said, yo.


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[Assistant] And in DTR, it looks like he's progressing.


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[Assistant] I'm like wow, like, because that's the first time anybody in this city, that's anybody, I don't care how long you've been here.


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[Assistant] You know the doctor that does uhm, does our doctor reports for when people are hurt?


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[Assistant] Uhm, he did a thing on a Cooper Cup last night, and he's just like, I don't know what it is. I think he has like an ankle fracture or something because... Oh, really? Well, if he has an ankle fracture, he's gonna be done for the year. He said it was the same ankle as the one he got surgery on.


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[Assistant] And we got the Jaguars at home. They gotta go at Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] So, so can we get, can we get the Dolphins? I believe the Dolphins of 73, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah. So, like, can we get the Dolphins scheduled? The Dolphins, remember?


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[Assistant] That's a tough. I'm not giving up on Buffalo. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not writing them off. No, no, no. But that's a tough, that's a tough game. That's tough. But they look like they gonna get 12 wins.


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[Assistant] Now there's one team left. The one, I think those are the three teams with three losses. The last one.


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[Assistant] If they get to about nine and three, you'd be like, okay, the Browns win. That's why I say after the Jacksonville game, I will know what it is. Because that's a head to head matchup.


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[Assistant] Browns will have to earn it. Browns, if they get, if they would have gotten, if they get the first overall seed, which is, I can't even believe I'm saying that. If they get that.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, uh, Greg, you know what's so crazy is I've been out here telling people.


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[Assistant] Uhm, all week, all year. Like, it's something different about these dudes, like,


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[Assistant] You know, I look at other teams that fold when their quarterback, their quarterback's not in. You've played with multiple quarterbacks, but it just seems like this defense.


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[Assistant] It is really on another level where it don't matter what happened on the offensive side of the football. The defense is just got a different mentality where it's like, we just not about to let y'all get no points. How is it playing with that much confidence and are you guys playing with the most confidence that you've seen since you've been here?


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[Assistant] That was, that was the collective four. They used to make that thing sound good. They'd be terrible as hell.


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[Assistant] They be two or something and they be real nice. I'm like, man, that has to hurt. It has to. Has to.


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[Assistant] I think it is. That's something that we deal with. That's just what we have in the pit of our stomachs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it's a new day. You know, Greg Newsome, and like we said, we make fun of it a little bit. But those guys, you can't tell me.


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[Assistant] That those guys, they're not handing out, you know, those plates to the less fortunate, that they don't have a vibe about them like, man, look at us, man, we out here doing our thing and we about to go smash the Broncos. I look at the Broncos defense, the Broncos defense has been getting takeaways, but besides that,


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[Assistant] Russell Wilson, he has that knack for, I want to get outside of the pocket and I want to extend, I want to keep extending, right?


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[Assistant] He doesn't understand that he doesn't have that same level of athleticism as he used to have. I've seen him slide a bunch more than I've ever seen him slide. Uhm, but for the most part, his numbers are pretty good when you talk about him throwing the football.


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[Assistant] I just think that he has not seen a pass rush like he's going to see with the Cleveland Browns. I think that pass rush is going to be ferocious and I think they're going to make go to him into throwing a couple of footballs that, that he may want back. So, you know, to me, uhm, I think it all depends on,


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[Assistant] The maturation and how accelerated the process is with DTR. Because if DTR can give you 250 and a touchdown and maybe some yards.


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[Assistant] 250 is crazy now. 250 is the new 300. Like 250 is like...


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[Assistant] I actually think the Browns somehow...


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[Assistant] They could, to get a first round playoff game is correct by saying you have to win your division.


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[Assistant] I think the Browns have a really good, they play really well at home. Especially the defense, to get a home game would be huge, especially with that defense.


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[Assistant] The weather, Joe Flacco's playing in weather. Like, in case he's playing. We found out that DTR has probably the stronger one in the short.


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[Assistant] Bad weather, he has a crazy arm, and the Browns have shown that they'll run the ball 50 times.


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[Assistant] This is one of the most memorable seasons, uhm, I've had. Wow. It just, because you just don't really necessarily know.


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[Assistant] You know, which way they're going to play and how they're going to play and how the way they're going to win. So it's, it's just almost one of those things where you're just tuning in to see.


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[Assistant] How they perform on that day and, and, you know, it's a lot of people that say, have been reaching out being like, yeah man, this is one of the most enjoyable seasons. Even though we, we didn't have Deshaun Watson and we don't have uh, Chubb, it's just, it's a, it's a great atmosphere to, to watch the Browns.


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[Assistant] And now they've put, they've put together so many games where now if you get to eight and three, you're five games over 500. You know, like.


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[Assistant] Even if they, and I'm not throwing that out there, even if they lose.


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[Assistant] I'm the dookie knee jerk. I don't think I will have as much of vitriol.


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[Assistant] I wasn't going to be mad at them. Like I knew that's the type of game you had to play. And it's a coin flip type deal. Like when you go to Denver and say, you know, the game is close. If they're in every single game and they just can't, you know, get over the top.


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[Assistant] And here's the thing, my thing is, what if you, as defensive guys, you have to be in that room saying,


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[Assistant] Like it's like, it's like getting that number. You've been looking at somebody all night. Think about how quickly. You got that number, 145.


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[Assistant] And I just thought I was, I can't believe I almost forgot to say this. Oh my gosh, I almost forgot this. So if you get to the playoffs, are we gonna see a playoff Jim Schwartz?


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[Assistant] So I feel like he got something in his back pocket. Like I feel like he got some stuff.


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[Assistant] Like, like, he's like, oh, I'm just playing bass right now. Like, yeaah, we can get by on bass. But like, if we play in a team, like, we get to the Chiefs, or we get to one of those teams in the playoffs, or the Dolphins, he's like, oh, I got something for that. Like, is there a, is there a playoff gym sport?


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[Assistant] You know, Kareem, uh, listen, man, I hope you know there's a large contingency of people that was ecstatic when you got back on this team. Like, I was, I was Saudi that you left to start with, but now that you be back and get your score in the football and the goal line,


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[Assistant] I mean, just talk about your nose for the goal line and your mentality down there because we only try to see 27 on the goal line. In the red zone, that's when you eat.


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[Assistant] Short yardage, that's what you eat. We like to see that. What is your mentality and why, what gets you so riled up about the goal line that has you being a monster down there?


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm going back to Canton. Um, so, you know, we, we, we starting to, we sparking it back up. You know, COVID kind of had everybody in their own little specific smaller family region. So this is the first time we're going to get a big one back in Canton. So I'll be doing a little traveling going forward.


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[Assistant] Everybody. And in our house you couldn't just be chilling around, like you had to have like multiple, like even when I came home from college, like we had, so I used to come home like in college and I worked the honey-baked ham with the glaze, that spice, that glaze boy.


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[Assistant] Listen, that honey baked ham, people be talking about, my grandmother minnow. Your grandmother ain't got nothing on them hams. Them hams get it done.


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[Assistant] I appreciate that guys and we have a fan duel ticket to show you guys in one sec that actually


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[Assistant] To Neos Henry, who had a four part same game parlay on the Browns. I take that back, a six part same game parlay on the Browns this week. He had Deshaun Watson over one and a half touchdown passes, over 203 passing yards. Amari Cooper over 90 receiving yards. Kareem Hunt anytime touchdown.


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[Assistant] Brown's on the money line and under 46.5 points and that turned $2.35.


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[Assistant] You alluded to it one second ago. This defense yesterday was so good, I don't give a rat's you know what about the opponent, Clayton Toon, whoever, to hold the team to 58 total yards and zero points while forcing three turnovers and getting seven sacks is as impressive as a defensive performance as we've seen in a long time.


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[Assistant] So Bull, to that point, I saw a tweet from Jack Duffin this morning who had the Browns linebacker snap count percentage done week by week. So weeks one to week six, JOK was on the field for 73% of Browns defensive snaps, Anthony Walker 63%, Taki Taki 54%.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, Mike. I do think the talent upgrade is probably vastly underrated in the big picture, but Joe Woods never adjusted to try and put guys in the best position to succeed like we've seen Jim Schwartz do. So I do think he deserved a fair slice and a pretty big slice of the blame ply here. Absolutely, but it's also fair to say he


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[Assistant] In terms of total yards allowed this season, the Browns have actually the top three performances this season. Right. Number three was week one against Cincinnati where they allowed 154 yards. Number two was week three versus Tennessee where they allowed 94 yards. And then the best was this week when they held Arizona to 58 yards. If you had to grade, or not grade, compare the two.


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[Assistant] This game against Arizona versus this game against Tennessee in week three. Yeah. Based on the opponent knowing who is a quarterback, the skill positions, all that in context.


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[Assistant] Which defensive performance do you think was more impressive? 94 yards against Tennessee or 58 yards against Arizona? I think the Tennessee one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, one more thing really, really, really quickly. So we talked about Denzel Ward's interception. We talked about Taki Taki and his emergence. We talked about all the guys on the defensive line who have continued to just be phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett, once again, had a sack. He's at nine and a half, and I'm gonna ask this real quick, I didn't even tell you guys beforehand, but...


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[Assistant] Uh, Bill Barnwell of ESPN did his mid-season awards today. Yep. And said, Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] We all said before the season started that we thought Myles had that next level he could get to and this was his best chance with all the talent. We're halfway through.


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[Assistant] Have you seen Miles Garrett step his game up to that level we had all wanted to? And I know yesterday wasn't the superhuman performance. No, I think Indianapolis was, but I just want to ask that question now. I think he had like,


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[Assistant] An official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. We will talk plenty of guardians in overtime, but we got to talk to Sean Watts. Let me just read one.


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[Assistant] G, the answer is yes. I know where you're going with this and yes. You know the live tweet ticker? Yeaah. Yeaah. That's a, it's a fatal flaw in the system, but it happens every week.


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[Assistant] One thing real quick and then we will, uh, move on here. Stevie, take tag word for it. Here's his passing chart from you. And NextGenStats does a good job putting this out.


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[Assistant] They attempted four deep balls, which is something we had not seen really at all in the Browns offense. There was a ton of stuff short to the right. His ADOT wasn't great. His completion percentage over expected wasn't great, but overall 19 to 30 for two 19 and two scores you will take in his first game back. I thought when his feet were set,


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[Assistant] He was able to throw the ball, anything kind of off platform, still a little shaky, but as a start, as a first time back and essentially six weeks, that was pretty damn impressive.


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[Assistant] Yeah, real quick. Tonight, or this afternoon, it's three o'clock. The barbershop. G. Bush.


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[Assistant] Back in action, in the chair, he was off last Monday. Recovering this Monday, he is back. And if you need to hear anything.


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[Assistant] From a perspective you don't always get. G. Bush had a video this weekend comparing Kevin Stefanski to Kim Kardashian, something I never thought would be spoken into existence. And G. Bush made a compelling point as to why Kevin Stefanski can learn something from Kim Kardashian. And you can find all those kind of takes in the barbershop tonight at three o'clock.


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[Assistant] It doesn't really matter who's a quarterback for the Browns. Amari Cooper seems to find ways to put up numbers week in and week out, G.


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[Assistant] So outside of Cooper and Joke got another touchdown, his second straight game with a touchdown, but other than him.


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[Assistant] Having an ounce of concern that this passing game is going to get too predictable if it's always going to Amari and David.


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[Assistant] As far as like their EPA per carry and their success rate. What's that? As far as like their EPA per carry and success rate, it'll be updated after Monday Night Football, so nothing fixed.


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[Assistant] When we, when we have more information on what Will's injuries, I'm sure Stephanie will address it. But obviously you feel bad for the guy. Yea, well, we'll do a full segment tomorrow on how they address the offensive line, depending on how long.


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[Assistant] Wow. He played 54 snaps in comparison to Mark Cooper played 58. Offensive snaps. Not special teams. Offensive snaps.


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[Assistant] We played 54 snaps bowl, Elijah Moore played 45. So.


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[Assistant] Because when you're in the huddle before you break, you don't know it's Wildcat. If they take the quarterback out of the huddle, you have 11 players.


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[Assistant] So, I'm gonna, I just asked the chat a question, and before I tell you the answers to today's results, I'm gonna ask the same question to you guys, and I want you to predict what the chat would have said last week. So based on this conversation I put in the chat, what's a more likely outcome at the end of this season?


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[Assistant] Fire Stefanski or Extends Stefanski? Before I tell you today's results, what do you think the poll results would have been? We have 300 answers in the chat already. If we had asked this exact same question one week ago today, following that third and three intercepts.


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[Assistant] So I asked that question right now. We have 350 votes. I'm going to refresh one more time to get the final number. 352 votes. 90% extends to Fanski.


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[Assistant] G Bush, how many super chats last week did we say have, did we get saying Fires to Fancy not be the head coach of this football?


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[Assistant] I have the numbers for you. I could tell you real quick, but.


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[Assistant] According, eh, not according, I did the math myself, I double checked.


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[Assistant] But CBS showed a graphic yesterday that said Kevin Stefanski is now 19 and 7 in games following a loss. Which is interesting because he's 10 and 18 in his career in games following a win. And we're gonna dive into whether that's just a weird trend.


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[Assistant] Prochet in the punt return game added a nice element we hadn't seen. Bjorkes might be the best punter in football. And even Dihop who missed the field goal is one of the best kickers right now.


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[Assistant] Little bit of breaking news. Kevin Stefanski said Jed Wills is going to the IR with an MCL injury, but it is not season ending.


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[Assistant] He just said with an MCL injury. Yeah, I mean. And a Marquis Goodwin in concussion protocol. Right.


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[Assistant] There was a little burst he had in the punt return game that I know DPJ, we had talked enough about the fact that he wasn't necessarily the most dangerous punt returner, but there's something about kind of the energy and the transfer of energy from a three and out, which the Browns got, I think eight of them yesterday into a punt.


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[Assistant] And then you're working with short fields. And when all three of those complimentary facets are working together, browns are really damn tough to beat.


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[Assistant] No, I'm doing math. Seattle for the Browns. Lost to Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] So Jason, we have to go way back to find the last time it happened. So far, we got to go back to last year. Oh really? Last season, the NFC East, Philadelphia. Oh, that's right! 14-3, Dallas 12-5, the Giants 9-7-1 in Washington.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, but I meant that's the last time five. There's not been a time where it's been all four teams over.


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[Assistant] We were in the mutiny lot yesterday. Gee, you were with us as well. And I want to spend just two, three minutes real quick talking about that experience. I know G said he hadn't been down there in over a decade. Yeah. And boy, it was the first time you've been down there in quite a while too. So what'd you think?


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[Assistant] Every time I'm out, if someone recognizes me, the first question they ask, is Bull really like he seems? And the answer is yes, he's 100% authentic. And is G as big as, is G really that big? And I'm like, yeah, he's a giant.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. We got a bunch today, guys. I'm going to fly through these pretty quickly. The first one comes from West gamer. He says, tell Jason L L L L Lloyd to hold those for me. The Sean is back next week is huge. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Should the Browns look into getting Lyle Collins? Did he sign yet? No. Is he still free agent? Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, we'll talk about that tomorrow. We're gonna do a whole offensive tackle thing tomorrow. Ricky Ponzi says, Kevin must have got the memo because he ran the damn ball.


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[Assistant] Don Tavius Winston said, Tune in DTR, put in the same position, a real tough place for a 5th round rookie. Rick George says, cheeky question, but what does, what does Miss Nuggets call him?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, sorry, that one called me off guard. Uh, Will Meeker said, It is true, he took a big hit yesterday, and then in the second half, everything kind of cleared up.


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[Assistant] Rick George said, I forgot to mention jok, delp it have been, have.


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[Assistant] Proche. Proche. Proche. That's what I need to be confident in saying his name. I'm just not confident. Horquez. Halim. The Horquez. Yousef. The Horquez.


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[Assistant] Said credit AB for the talent upgrade. Also, please consider doing an AFC North breakdown segment every Tuesday, since it's such a close division. It'll be a fun march towards the playoffs. We will do a little more of that, especially the next two weeks. Uh, LGVs.


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[Assistant] Said Tegna, get bowl of laptop. Happy Victory Monday.


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[Assistant] Peter R says was at both Cleveland games yesterday. A great day for Cleveland sports. The Cavs beat the Warriors. Yeah. Rick George says what's the post cost to send Kool-Aid merch to Australia, G? You shipped to Australia, right?


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[Assistant] And then he asked the defensive line and said, please help raise awareness for this local Cleveland rescue dogs fight against cancer. Help Parker fight cancer on GFM. We'll post a link, uh, tweet it at his coop and we will retweet that for you and hopefully help.


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[Assistant] Uh, Parker fight cancer set apart last said, Hey Google, how to contain Lamar Jackson. That'll be a topic this week. I promise you. Uh, James Cosby said, finally got one called it last week attitude game for the defense versus the Cardinals. Daryl, our personal bodyguard in the Muni yesterday said, UCSS, the talk of Cleveland, Kuwait mafia in the building.


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[Assistant] Bull, McNuggets, Jason G, love you guys, Kaz12.


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[Assistant] Uh, potentially. Stuff like that's in the works. The meeting lot's a tough area to go live. There's a lot of chaos down there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so people have asked me this. There's no way to compare like apples to apples, but if you put barbecue chips, salt and vinegar chips, regular cheddar, like I can tell you the chips. I'm sure there's little nuances I can't pick up on, but, uh, I can't pick up most tastes. And real quick, someone asked Ms. Nuggets yesterday was like, Hey, are you Ms. Nuggets? Her ego.


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[Assistant] We got overtime. We're talking to little guardians, little calves, and it is victory Monday. Enjoy it. There's no such thing as a bad win in the NFL, even if you're playing Clayton Toon and the Arizona Cardinals. We love you both and we love everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for watching. Peace! See you on overtime.


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[Assistant] And you got a sore throat and you don't go to work. Check the hell out. I ain't tell you, you can't talk on football. Yeaah, this is next level. So you sit on your cube, hang out, and let the doctors tell who's who. We gonna shut that down right now so we can get that out of the way and talk about what's really going on here. Andrew Barry Prescott.


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[Assistant] But look, we have a great roster. We feel that we have a Super Bowl defense and we're going to do everything that we can in our power to go out and get a quarterback to add


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[Assistant] Here's the thing. You've got a defense like that and you can play like that. They've gone on the road to beat Baltimore. They've played well against teams that in the NFC that people think are good. They played against San Francisco, played against Seattle.


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[Assistant] It would to me. To me, that's 63 that they got right there because of what they went through and how they weathered the storm and the way they were trending with Deshaun Watson. That 63 is a 9. 100% agree. 100% agree.


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[Assistant] It's the statistics. If you wanna, if you do a dangerous job, yes, you may come home safe one day, but there's always a chance day after day after day after day that you're gonna have something happen because of the statistics. But it can't be done. We saw it. But we, I'm playing the statistics. The way I wanna look at this thing is,


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[Assistant] Making decisions and having guard rails. The Cleveland Browns did not have any guard rails at the quarterback position. No argument from me. Because they thought that they could get rid of guys and the quarterback position is different from an offensive guard.


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[Assistant] You have to have a blueprint. You have to have a way of doing things. Josh Dobbs is valuable. The reason he's valuable is he went from starting from Arizona.


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[Assistant] To starting in Minnesota. Because other teams had value and they understood the value of what he brought to the table. The Browns didn't understand that. That's a fact. So now you have PJ Walker and DTR. Now I agree. DTR, I'm starting over him over PJ Walker. But here's the problem.


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[Assistant] I now have to go look at 85 other guys in that locker room that is playing their tails off, that playing hurt. And their season is laying on the shoulders of a rookie.


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[Assistant] And they knew that there was a problem. Yes. And at that point, and to your point, when you say you don't drive a Maserati, if you buy a Maserati in Cleveland, understand that Maserati's not going to be used for half the season. It's winter, you ain't got nothing to do. You got to have you a back, back up


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[Assistant] Pick up four by four to do what you need to do. And my thing is, I got a problem with this rhetoric because it's just not the fact.


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[Assistant] Any retired guy, any retired guy is going to need a few weeks. I'm going to let y'all know something right now. The Cleveland Browns, like you think we was excited? This defense is not going to let the Pittsburgh Steelers win that game. They're just not.


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[Assistant] And the problem you don't want to have is what the 49ers had.


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[Assistant] What happens if you keep winning games and you don't go get another quarterback and then DTR is playing well the couple of days and then he gets hurt?


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[Assistant] If you're going to pay somebody all these quarterbacks all this money, and you're putting half of your millions into, half of your roster, your cap into a quarterback, you're dumb as hell if you go out there and say we don't have a backup. You're dumb. Why would you do that? Why would you do that?


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[Assistant] We, we don't have a quarterback who ain't played in three half years, and they saw him get hurt, and they still, here's the thing, Tyvers, they still ain't be, they still didn't make no moves at the game.


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[Assistant] Hey listen, I want you to, hey, throw me on the pile too. Go get me Nick Foles. Go get me PJ Walker. Under no circumstances. I do not want to see PJ Walker play no more.


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[Assistant] They can start DTR or PJ Walker. I'm still picking the Browns. And the Browns is not losing this game. I'm picking the Browns. Bingo! That's my point.


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[Assistant] And the reality of the situation is, you need to do everything that you can do to make sure you can maximize the ability of his team to win football games. Yes, priority one. It does not matter. So you think Leroy's wrong? Yes, he's absolutely wrong. You think Tyvis is wrong?


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[Assistant] You have to say what happens if DTR is playing well and he gets hurt. You're dealing with a patchwork line with left tackle, right tackle out. Just cause they played well last game does not mean they're gonna hold up.


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[Assistant] Let me get your ledger together. Here's the thing. I think DTR is going to play well. I think he will play well. I think they'll win a couple more games with DTR. The problem is you're still not addressing the issue. DTR now is your first quarterback, right?


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[Assistant] They put everything in a Watson basket where six games, six games, six games. When you see what Deshaun Watson, you put everything on him. Now this year, now you're looking at a situation now in a place where you're still trying to put it on guys.


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[Assistant] Right now, you know, Barry seems to be in a position where he doesn't want to talk about it. But I mean, I don't, I don't see any other teams trading their backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] They traded their backup quarterback for a fifth round pick. Yeaah. And this guy's playing lights, not even saying he's playing lights out, but two other teams felt he was good enough to start for them and the Cardinals and now the Vikings off two, three weeks of rest or whatever the case may be, don't know the playbook.


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[Assistant] I mean, is this something he has to answer for? Because right now, you got a great team, a great defense, and then you're down to PJ Walker and a rookie. So, I mean, you know, what is his explanation for that?


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[Assistant] If they don't, if they don't go get a veteran, I'm not talking about Scrap Heat guys, I'm not talking about practice squad. See, when you want to drill down on stuff, actually tell yourself like this man, PJ Walker cannot read defenses.


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[Assistant] He predetermines, he predetermines who he's throwing the ball to. That's why he throws so many picks. That's why he throws so many picks. He does not have the processing quickness to do it. In crunch time, he's good in the first couple quarters. In crunch time, when he doesn't know who's coming, he's throwing the ball, that's why he goes off helmets, because he's predetermining where he's throwing it.


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[Assistant] Second of all, you're a rookie quarterback. When you got a rookie quarterback, you know what rookie quarterbacks do? They get fooled. A lot.


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[Assistant] It's just part of the game. And you, we can mention the Trestle ball, but here's the thing. It's not the same correlation. Jim Trestle did what? He started fifth year seniors and guys who have been around. Any of the best talent in football.


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[Assistant] So Craig Krenzel, Craig Krenzel, all these guys, Beckman, they wouldn't even start, when you played for Trestle, you had to be 45 before you got on the field. The problem is this.


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[Assistant] You have an opportunity to be, to do something. Inaction is not acceptable. And, and for anybody, Andrew Berry, you know good and well what you have in that room is not cutting it. So all that, that rigmarole, and here's the thing, I'm going to just be truthful. There's a lot of people around here that have been waiting way longer than they've been here.


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[Assistant] I've been waiting for years to get to where we gonna go. And just because somebody feels like they gonna be inactive or they feel what's better, no. I'm not giving you no time a day for that noise. You don't got time like that. There's people in graves that wanted to see this team win and play well.


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[Assistant] And we still, every single year, when it come down to the get down, everybody's punting. No, we don't need this person. We don't need to go get that person. How, how is it your job as a general manager to always tell me what we don't need?


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[Assistant] So no, I'm not hearing what you saying. You got guys, and by the way, what I was trying to say about DPJ is if you got rookies and young guys, help them the hell out.


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[Assistant] So you got rid of a guy that they practiced throwing the ball to all year. They're down a receiver. Now you telling me you won't even go get a veteran to be able to come in and say, DTR, when they get in that coverage, this is what they're running. DTR, this is how we do audibles. When you see this, this is happening. You're going to have Deshaun Watson, who he, he's emotionally distraught right now.


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[Assistant] You gotta do some rules. The house rules. And people get your, my passion confused about like I'm bashing the Browns or nothing. I'm saying that the Browns gonna win this game at Pittsburgh here in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I'm not expecting a whole lot of changes. He'll have to work on his mechanics and so on and so forth, uh, after he comes back, but...


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[Assistant] You know, uh, you know, it's unfortunate the way it happened and the reason why I'm back here, but, uh, you know, it's no place like home. So, uh, I have to say I'm, I'm grateful to be back on this team. Uh,


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[Assistant] I love this team. I love the Browns my whole life. And, uh, the biggest thing is we just gotta keep winning. There's one goal. I came back and that's just to win.


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[Assistant] You know, it feels great, man, and I give a lot of thanks to the O-line for doing a great job, but one thing about them, I'm telling them I'm bringing it every play. Like, I'm gonna, you know, give them everything I have on every carry.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, yeah, that's a tough situation, just getting thrown in there, and uh, I've seen him, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, grow over the last couple weeks and just, you know, lock in. He attacked the game plan and, uh, you know, you can see a whole different side of confidence from him and, uh,


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[Assistant] It's just, you know, it's exciting to watch because I know he's a hard worker and he gonna give it his all each and every play. Y'all should see him when he doesn't have the ball. He's trying to go throw blocks on people.


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[Assistant] Endzone or, you know, short yardage, I'm gonna find a way to, you know, finish the playoff or, you know, get what we need and that just comes from, you know, training hard and this, you know, won't quit.


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[Assistant] It was for everything. Honestly, it got to the point, like, alright, it's all on you. You got one player to get it in end zone, and, uh, you're either gonna win or lose, and, uh, what,


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[Assistant] I like my odds at that point. You know what I mean? I think I like that. And I wouldn't want it any other way.


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[Assistant] And I'm glad they saw that too, when the game on the line, you know who to give the ball to.


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[Assistant] If we just, you know, stay connected and play as a team and everybody do their job, I feel like it would be insane for us to, you know, throw this away because we have the players.


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[Assistant] About 25 minutes down the road, you know, till you get to downtown, I think we need to start there. Now the hometown.


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[Assistant] Here we are! It's the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show on a Wednesday, the last day before Thanksgiving. It's also the, sadly, the 60th anniversary of JFK being assassinated. Did you guys know that? Anybody else know that?


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[Assistant] Sixty years ago. Sixty years. Which was uh, sixty-three. Dang. Shout out to the grassy knoll.


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[Assistant] What are you talking about? I mean, somebody tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. I was alive.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, let's, let's well connect the sports here. We got a lot of things to get to. Uh, Deshaun Watson had his surgery yesterday. Would the Cavs be better off with Laurie Markkinen? That was something that Earl was pushing before the show.


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[Assistant] Uh, he will not be claimed on waivers because he's still got 6 million this year, or I assume he won't be. And he's got, I think, uh, his contract's beyond this year, isn't it?


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[Assistant] You know, again, we are, we have soured a little bit on PFF. He is, uh, graded 61st out of, I want to say, 90 linebackers. Oh, that's, wow. However. There it is.


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[Assistant] Guys, do we think Shaq Leonard, especially with the unknown status of our middle linebacker, could, uh, could the Browns,


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[Assistant] Well you pay a minimum. They just did the same with Flacco. And here's the interesting thing. Apparently Shackler wanted to be cut because his playing time had been cut down. Now on the Browns...


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[Assistant] He's not going to play a ton. I don't think he's going to play any more than he played in Indianapolis, but he's playing for a better team. If you're a guy, if you're Shaq Leonard and you wanted to get out of there because you weren't playing a lot, are you willing to still not play a lot if it's a better team? Or do you want to just go somewhere where you can play a lot even if it's not a good team? What do you think he's looking at?


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[Assistant] And if Walker's gonna play, but like Shaq Lender can still play. I think. You know.


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[Assistant] To me, it's a no-brainer. I feel like teams like the Ravens sign guys like this in the middle of the season every year, right? All the time. JPP. They're always, they're always signed. That's why I said a couple weeks ago, bring in JPP and he signed with who?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I mean, I think it's a great fit. I think there's no reason not to do it again. You're paying a minimum salary.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know. What do you mean needs? The Browns don't even need one. It's not about need, it's about making a strength stronger. The Browns have the best defense in football. You wanna load up. This is what I think.


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[Assistant] No team has made a deep playoff run with this level of quarterback in forever. If the Browns can do it, it's gonna look good on all these guys on defense.


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[Assistant] That doesn't mean I'm giving up on him, or that I think he sucks now, or anything for sure. I'm just saying, when the guy has had another serious injury,


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[Assistant] And this is a very serious injury that not a lot of quarterbacks have had. I don't know if any quarterbacks have had this specific injury. So we don't know for sure how he's going to recover. Uh, Mike gave you the numbers, he's played


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[Assistant] Right, he's essentially put 11 out of the last 50 games, right? 34-50. 51. 17-17-17.


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[Assistant] That's true, 317, yeaah. 11 out of 15, he's missed 40 of his last 51 possible games. He's coming off of shoulder surgery. Now, the thing going in his favor is he


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[Assistant] Two things, one, he's still relatively young, right? He's 29, I think? What is he? He's 28. What is he? He's 28, sorry. So he's yo- Young at 28.


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks don't get old till, you know, I'll say 33, 34. But, uh,


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[Assistant] What's your level of concern long-term on the shot? Or, I don't know, next year or long-term, however you want, what is your level of concern, guys?


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[Assistant] Remember, this is an injury. I don't think there's a cop on this injury, so we don't know.


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[Assistant] You know, it is a big difference if he's ready in July versus ready in March.


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[Assistant] If he gets to that. If the Browns defense plays next year like it does this year, I would agree with him. So wait a minute, wait a minute.


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[Assistant] That's ridiculous. I don't know how I can have zero because I'm worried, I'm a little worried about this injury because it's so unique.


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[Assistant] He got hurt and then he started getting over it again and he got hurt again and throw in the fact that this injury.


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[Assistant] Maybe he did, but now he's missing more time and, and listen, we could spin it however we want.


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[Assistant] The reality is that even when he played well against Tennessee and then what he did against Baltimore in the second half, I was not ready to say he's fully back yet. I thought he was trending there. I thought I was about to say, I think he's almost there. He's getting close, getting close. But he wasn't fully back yet. He wasn't playing like a star.


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[Assistant] I will say, I can't give too much detail, but I will say that I have heard positive things about Deshaun behind the scenes in terms of