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[Assistant] I think there are two teams that are on the up and up and very excited about where things are going. You gotta tell me about the parties though. Okay, alright, I know. The Hall of Fame parties. Parties? You were there Saturday. I was there Saturday. For the festivities. For the festivities. You know, in the heat. It was really cool to be a part of it. It really was. It was like, man, the weekend itself.


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[Assistant] It was like awesome and sad and everything, right? These people were such a big part of my life, my first six and seven years of my NFL career. And my wife was there with me. And a lot of them we hadn't seen in forever, right? And so you go back to this type of event, you know, and the Buccaneers, the Glaciers threw an unbelievable party. And it's just...


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's soul wrenching. It really is. Seeing people where I go, man, I mean, I used to be with this guy every day for seven months a year, right?


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[Assistant] And we were buddies. I mean, we were buddies. We walked and we got, we went to the cafeteria together, right? We sat in the sauna together. We got


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[Assistant] Dressed and naked together, you know what I mean? I mean, what's more bonding than that? I mean, geez, right, I know, it's like you chuckle about it, but when you think about some of the things you do, that's why you hear people say it's a brotherhood. And it was just-


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[Assistant] And for me, I can say quite a few actually. Uh, but, but yeaah, that's where it was just like, oh man, it was just such special times in your life. You know, I was a young man growing, learning everything, had all these people who were good to me, we had fun times together, and just to see


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[Assistant] Some of the legends, some of the old coaches, some of my old teammates, uhm, it was definitely some moments of fighting back tears of like, wow, man, damn, you know, I missed you and, uh, all of that. My wife, she was like teary eyed like for the first


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[Assistant] 30 minutes of Ronde's party because it was just one blast from the past after another, right? But the party was awesome.


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[Assistant] Of course, Ronde, his brother Tiki being there, you know, my old buddy Ryan Neese, I mean, Brian Kelly, all these guys that played on the team, it just, it just couldn't have been, uh, a better event. And, uh, the, the blazers threw a hell of a party. That's cool. And, uh, R&B, I mean, uh, hip hop artist Russ?


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[Assistant] Who's got some songs that I know of just because my kids keep me cool. And I do like his songs, so he kinda let it off.


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[Assistant] And then they went to CeeLo. CeeLo Green. Oh wow. Right. CeeLo was there. CeeLo was there with this whole band and he was wearing red pants like you. Oh yeaah. And a red, you know, tank top. Yeaah. And he was sweatin' and dancin'. Uh, but it was, it was, it was really cool. It really was, and uhm, it was awesome. Here's the best part of the night, right? So I do that, you know.


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[Assistant] You sit outside for a ceremony and lose like four pints of water because it's 90 degrees and they don't cover the audience, right?


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[Assistant] You go back to your hotel room, and it's one of those where you're like, whoo, I'm exhausted. What time is it? What time is it? Do we, do we have to shut off that party on time? Should we take a nap? Right? You know, it's kind of one of those things. So we go to the party and you're, you know, it's one of those where you're on the way there. You're like, Ooh, man, I gotta, I'm going to have to really get myself going here.


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[Assistant] And of course, once you start to see everybody, the adrenaline goes and then it's, hey, meet me at the bar for a drink. And then you see another guy there. Hey, we're going to the bar and you have another drink. And you're like, you know, you're all of a sudden you're there for like 12 minutes. You're like, I've already had three drinks already, you know, but, uh, night goes on great night, blah, blah, blah. We're stuck in Canton, Ohio. It's like 12 30 at night.


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[Assistant] And my wife and I were back in Cleveland now at a hotel where we want to go back to Cleveland because we're leaving from Cleveland in the morning.


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[Assistant] We can't get an Uber. Oh no. We can't get an Uber.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, and we're kind of in the middle of nowhere, and it's a little bit like-


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[Assistant] So now we're in the parking lot and it's like, whoa, what are we going to do? We're looking around. There's cars and vans everywhere, but they're all assigned to go to other hotels and everything like that.


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[Assistant] And he's sitting there eating some food and we talk and hey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just, hey, what's up? And you know, how's everything going? He goes, oh yeah, we're, we're about to get in the car and go to Cleveland. And I'm like, huh?


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[Assistant] You're going to Cleveland? I was like, yeah, so are we. And he's like, oh, really? Yeah. He's like, who's taking you?


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[Assistant] And my wife goes, we're having trouble finding an Uber. And he was like, uh, uh, uh.


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[Assistant] I was like, I mean, we'll take you to our hotel and then you can get an Uber from there. And we were like, sure. So him and his son Paxton, he rented a car.


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[Assistant] And he drove us back to Cleveland at one in the morning. I'm sitting there in the passenger seat with work done. My wife and


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[Assistant] The Hall of Fame itself, the inductees this year, the one thing I said this morning, it was the Scrapper Group. You know, Demarcus where...


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[Assistant] I understand he was a first round pick, but he also went to Troy at like 190 pounds and was not like


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[Assistant] You know, Daryl Rivas, I know he was a top pick too, uh, but, but like when you get into Ronday and Zach Thomas and some of the other guys, like they were guys that came from nothing. Ken Riley, you know, out of nowhere where they had to work for it and Joe Kleko, same type of thing.


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[Assistant] You know, and that's what I appreciated about the class. I'm very appreciative. I've been lucky to be on some teams with Hall of Famers. To be on that Bucs team, that was special.


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[Assistant] You know, I got to go to the Tennessee Titans and be with Kevin Mawai.


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[Assistant] Who was the best center I was ever around in my life. I went to Denver and got to be Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey and Ty Law, right? So, I've got a, you know, a shamrock up my ass as far as, uh, being lucky to be around some real, real NFL legends and I'm very grateful for that.


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[Assistant] And he just threw it and it hit him right in the draw.


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[Assistant] That is old school. Wait, first off, let me just wax poetically for a second about two things that I love. One, I want you to explain, I don't know what got Ramirez so mad about the tag. Okay, so maybe you can give me more on that in a second. And then the other thing, like,


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[Assistant] The one thing I love, right, and you don't see this often like you said in baseball,


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[Assistant] Like Anderson just taking his glove off and just going, let's fight.


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[Assistant] That to me, I was like, a guy from Jersey, I was like, damn, he might be my new idol right there. I mean, just to be so, like, just to hell with all the talk.


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[Assistant] I don't want to burn my sources here, but I've given you a lot. I've given you a lot already. There's history, we got it. There's some history there. Yup. He takes it too far, trash talking. Alright, fine. So an eventful week in Cleveland for both of us, right? Very eventful. We learned a lot of fun things there. Yes, we did.


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[Assistant] We know who the stars are. I mean, we don't need to, oh, we gotta watch T.J. Watt in the preseason. We don't need to watch him in the preseason. He's gonna be good. Don't just look at somebody else. And yeaah, there's a good chance those guys don't play. We're talking about that guy that is flying under the radar a little bit.


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[Assistant] Or a guy that we go, ooh, you know, he needs to develop and they take the next step.


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[Assistant] Or a guy where we go, at least in my, in how I'm doing the exercise, like this is a spot that I have a question about on their, their roster. And can this person show up and maybe answer those questions for us? So that's kind of the route we're talking about here. And, and, uh, you know, hopefully we got some good ones and some good things to talk about.


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[Assistant] Right, it is. It's a rebuilding year. You know, like we saw in the barn when we were watching the draft. I mean, they're setting it up for next year, right? With all the trades to get the picks next year and everything there. This is just a, let's start to advance the culture into what we want.


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[Assistant] And start to build the team and get in these early phases to get it where, okay, you know, now next year we can make some waves and make some moves, right? I think that's where they are as a football team right now. You know, there's, of course, hey, there's questions everywhere on this football team.


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[Assistant] So, we know O-Line, some things there, of course the rookie in Paris, Johnson and all that, but here's the one I'm gonna throw out to you. Right? I mean,


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[Assistant] When I look at them, yeaah, there's some, there's some spots across the roster right now where you go, yeaah, it's a little underwhelming. It's, it's underwhelming. Who's gonna rush the passer? Anything like that. You know? Who stands out in that department? Yeaah, there's questions there. But the one I'm gonna go with here, just for one guy to watch, right?


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[Assistant] Is Marco Wilson, the corner, number 20. Got drafted from Florida a few years ago. Marco Wilson's a guy that I look at to go, one, you know, it's year three.


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[Assistant] And I think he has a chance to take a step into going like...


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[Assistant] You know, island-type cornerback. A guy that they can go, hey, you got him and we're gonna do some other stuff over here.


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[Assistant] Gannon, he'll definitely play some man to man and put his corners in some of those situations, right? So to me, that's the guy, like, I don't question their safeties.


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[Assistant] Right? I don't have any issue there. We know that. Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins in the middle and all that. Okay, yeaah. We've got to see more from Isaiah Simmons. I get all that. But I, I mean, if Marco Wilson


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[Assistant] Can take the next step and they can trust him in some man-to-man situations, be in a shutdown, lockdown corner. I think that'll maybe give Jonathan Gannon some more guts to blitz and do some creative things on that side of the ball. He's been a, he's,


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[Assistant] Can be a little all over the place as far as inconsistencies but man, I mean the skills are there and he has some games last year I remember on film going, man this guy is a hell of a player. So he's the guy I'm gonna be kinda looking at to go, can he take the next step? But you said it right, this is a team that I'm not expecting a ton of right now in this coming year.


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[Assistant] So here's one where I like, the rookies are, I'm picking rookies here. Avila was one that I certainly looked at.


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[Assistant] Right, I think he, it's to me, Avila or third round pick Byron Young who rushes to pass her out of Tennessee. So I'm gonna cheat on this one and kinda say those two.


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[Assistant] Those are the ones, but I think if I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Avila. Just because as we talked about with Matthew Stafford and the quarterback rankings, right? When I did that, the protection was, it was beyond horrible, right? He had no chance. And part of that was because


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[Assistant] They're not very good on the offensive line. This guy, yeaah, he's big, you know, he's a guy that...


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[Assistant] As far as the O-line are concerned, yeaah, it's not the most impressive group. I know what Rob Havenstein is, Jost, Joseph, no, boom, the left tackle, solid.


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[Assistant] You know, receivers, we know who they are, and it's not all that impressive of the group if Cooper Cup is hurt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that's why I'm with, uh, our listener and Steve Avila. And, you know, Byron Young is the other guy I do say, just I bring that up because, hey, Leonard Floyd's gone. Right? This isn't a team, it's like we just talked about with the Cardinals. It's kinda like...


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[Assistant] They're playing it for the future, it's not about this year and can Byron Young as an outside pass rusher show that he is the future and, and you know, take one thing off their radar as far as having to address that need and going on going forward.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're right. He's an old rookie. Old rookie. He's, uhm, extremely explosive.


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[Assistant] And the way they run their offense, I would think he's gonna fit. I mean...


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[Assistant] You know, like they used Leonard Floyd, yeaah, it's Rush the passer, but, hey, Raheem Morris, they do a lot of, hey, this U2 Blitz, U2 Dropout, you know, they change and ask their edge guys to do some different things on that defense. I think he'll be able to do them all, let alone,


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[Assistant] No, no. I wouldn't be shocked if he made some waves sacking the quarterback.


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[Assistant] I thought his first step in the draft was about as fast as anybody coming around the edge. And, you know, sometimes with some of these guys...


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[Assistant] They had more things to think about in college on uncertain downs. Now, you know, he might just play a specific role. I'm interested to see how they play it. Or they might just say, hey, get wide. Just go after the quarterback. Don't worry about so many other things. Uhm, but he certainly has got the traits to be something in that.


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[Assistant] You know, I love Matthew Stafford, I love Cooper Cup, I love Aaron Donnell. McVay's gonna coach them tough. They're gonna be physical. And he's gonna have good game plans. It's just, I don't know if they have enough, still, you know, if that's enough to overcome or get, you know, to 500 record. I would say not, probably.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, listen, he was on my shortlist, alright?


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[Assistant] This is a team that, you know, how good is the offense going to be? I don't know.


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[Assistant] They're gonna, we know the defense has some pieces, so they gotta hold it down, right? I'm not expecting whether it's Kyle Trask or Baker Mayfield for us to be sitting here and going, wow, they're executing like the 2021 Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Brady, right? You know, last year we saw with Brady it was hard for them to execute.


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[Assistant] Right? So, the defense has got some pressure on them. There's no doubt about that. And, you know, I'm gonna pop off and go with the guy on the other side of the line from them. And Shaquille Barrett. Where's Shaquille Barrett at? How good can he be?


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[Assistant] The reason I say that, and he might not play much here, right? So I got another guy too off of this because I'm cheating on this whole exercise. Yeah, already.


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[Assistant] He's coming off an Achilles tear, right? And he's coming off a family tragedy.


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[Assistant] And of course he's being paid a lot of money and he's being paid like a top tier pass rusher in football. I'm interested to see where he's at.


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[Assistant] I really am, you know, and I have a heavy heart saying that. I do, but yeaah, because I look at it like you said.


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[Assistant] The Bucs are one of those teams where they might have to win games 16 to 13, you know, 17 to 14 early on in the year. I don't think they're going to be an offensive juggernaut. So that's why I kind of leaned where your thought was. It was Tri-Anka or...


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[Assistant] Shaquille Barrett for me. Now I wrote another name in Cody Mock, right?


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[Assistant] Just because we know their O-line stinks. Or it had issues last year. There's no Donovan Smith. They're moving Tristan Wirf to the left tackle. He's seeing a psychologist because he's nervous about it. Right? So Cody Mock, and there's a real need in the interior part of their O-line. They're going to be relying on a guy, you know, who played one double A football.


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[Assistant] To move people out of the way at guard this year. So that's just another name I'll throw out there. But I think we hit the two that I think are the most important because I think that defense, it's on them.


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[Assistant] The money's there. It's on that side of the ball right now. They gotta hold down the fort as the offense comes along.


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[Assistant] Like, I go to them, right, and I try to be creative a little here. I don't want to just like, be chalk. Right? There's some questions in the secondary that certainly are worthy of watching and all that. But I think this one's easy. What does Chase Young look like?


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[Assistant] What, if Chase Young- Why are you encroaching on my territory? So often. Chase Young, well, cause we're friends and we think alike.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm sure he is your big butt to watch because if Chase Young is healthy and back to what he was before the injury,


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[Assistant] You know, what do I, what do I say? Those secondary guys that I was about to bring up, I go, well, we don't have to worry about them as much because that pass threshold will be there in 2.2 seconds. You know, that changes their football team. When you got four guys across the board who are just a handful,


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[Assistant] So, his, his health and his overall effect for what he can do with the football team, it is huge. You know, if he's good and this D-line is playing like it was during the COVID year and all that, then you sit here and go, ooh, Washington might surprise some people.


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[Assistant] They can, you know, again, they can buy some time for Sam Howell to develop and not always have to rely on the, hey, defense, we need you to dominate in the early part of the year. So Chase Young's health is of course crucial to that and you know, his big butt's crucial to your, your life as well.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would put that defensive tackle duo up there with anybody. And Montez Sweat is one of the best pass rushers that nobody talks about in football. Agreed. You know, so that's, that's, I'm with you there.


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[Assistant] You know, uhm, but yeaah. Hey, for another, just overall thought.


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[Assistant] The, the safety position, how that plays out, that's very, you know, interesting to me, for sure. And of course, we'll have our eyes on our, uh,


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[Assistant] My, one of my guys from Illinois. Jartavius Martin. You know it, Quan Martin. And, and I'm interested to see with Emanuel Forbes, you know, the 160 pound corner. Yeah. And what he looks like. And, you know, I loved a lot of things about him except for change direction. But I think Chase Young is the, the obvious one and the right one here.


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[Assistant] Well, we gotta end this conversation. We'll go back to Carolina now. We'll do the Bears now. You messed it up. Geez, I mean, gosh. Guy talks to, you know, Francona and does a game, and now he just thinks he can run the show.


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[Assistant] I mean, they did. And of course, everybody's expecting Justin Fields to take this Jalen Hurts type step, right? I'm not as confident in that as everybody else. I gotta see it a little bit first to believe it. But man, they made some moves this offseason. They certainly, you know, free agency, spent some money.


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[Assistant] I know we want to watch the O-line and where they go, you know. They got, you know, not only Tevin Jenkins from two drafts ago, but also, you know, with, with, uh, their first rounder this year. What the hell is his name? From, uh, Darnell Wright from, from Tennessee, right?


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[Assistant] So I, I know that's, that's a thing, but here's the one to me that, that I wanna watch and see where it's at. It's Chase Claypool. Chase Claypool.


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[Assistant] Like, he didn't really make his presence felt when he got traded there last year. Chase Claypool, as you know, and as I've said many times in this podcast, he has superstar traits. He could be, it's all about mentality, detail, work ethic, don't say the wrong things into the microphone, whatever. It's all that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] We know Fields is gonna run. The quarterback design runs a thing. Colcomette's good at tight end. I like their running backs, right? I like Khalil Herbert. I think Roshan Johnson's gonna be good, and Deontay Foreman's damn good too. So I just look at Chase Claypool as the guy that I go, ooh, that'll take it over the top. That'll make them scary.


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[Assistant] If Justin is, Justin Fields is somewhat consistent, and now you got, oh wait, we're worried about the run, and we're worried about the run, and like we do with Philadelphia, you go, well now you got one-on-one with AJ Brown and Devontae Smith, oh now you got one-on-one with DJ Moore and Chase Claypool.


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[Assistant] And Darnell Mooney's gonna be getting healthy along this process too, cause he's coming back from an ACL. To me, he's the guy that can take this to the next level.


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[Assistant] Speed sweeps, the reverses, all that type of stuff. Catch a slant, take it to the house. If his head's screwed on straight, he's dangerous, and him and DJ Moore have potential to be one of the more dangerous combos in football.


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[Assistant] You're right, they can't do that. You know, he got there too right as they started to go finally into the quarterback design run, right? So, they have that. And then...


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[Assistant] You know, I think Justin Fields, the only guy in the trust tree with him was Jarnel Mooney.


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[Assistant] So hopefully this offseason has allowed the offense to find more ways to use them, fields to use them better, feel more comfortable. But yes, I mean, Ahmed, I mean, you know, like we always do on this thing, and you hear me, like, it should be like,


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[Assistant] He, you know, I watched him closely, he has the body and some things about him where you go, ooh, he could be something. He wasn't the great, he's a little stiff, and he had some contact balance issues, right?


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[Assistant] But he's in a place where I'd go, this scheme is great for him. He's not a two-gapper, let's wrestle and do all that, right? He'd be more of a, just get through that gap, get through that gap. He's that kind of guy, and uh, hopefully it fits well.


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[Assistant] We know the quarterback and all that. We're not taking quarterbacks. I really don't have many questions about...


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[Assistant] You know, the defense overall, there's nothing there that I sit there and go, ooh, you know, this is one, we gotta watch this. To me, it's one position. It's receiver. Right? It's receiver.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna single out, I have two names written down, but I think I'll single out Terrace Marshall. Okay. Cause he's, he's, he's gotta be a go-to consistent target for this offense this year.


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[Assistant] You know, they got DJ Chark. He's the other name I wrote down. Because DJ Chark is a guy that can be a, he can be a game breaker. We've seen moments of that with the Lions and the Jaguars. He's kind of fought some injuries here the last few years. But his potential is big time.


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[Assistant] You know, so I like that, but I'm gonna say Terrace Marshall more for this exercise because he's gotta be the meat and potatoes receiver.


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[Assistant] He's gotta be the guy that on first and 10, we can throw a play action past him and he'll catch it over the middle and take a hit. And then on third and eight, we can, he'll read the coverage the right way.


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[Assistant] And you know, sit down in the zone or realize it's man and be able to separate and be a friendly target for, for Bryce Young. So that's the guy I look at. You know, they, they let go of the guy we just talked to and traded DJ Moore to get this pick.


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[Assistant] So this is a position that certainly needs to be looked at, evaluated, and who's gonna pop up for them to take some pressure off of Bryce. A lot of people were high on him coming up.


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[Assistant] Right, a guy where you went, it's not like, oh he's just gonna run for 80 yard bombs, but he can beat you on the outside, but you really want him on the inside because he's got size and he can run routes, and when he gets the ball in his hands like you just talked about there, he can act, he can turn it on a little bit. So we'll see where that goes. Who's your big butt there buddy?


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[Assistant] Can he do that? And then, you know, this is a little bit like, like we were talking about with Raheem Morris and the Rams. You know, EJ Evero is the new defensive coordinator there. They're gonna have a new look.


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[Assistant] And, you know, like we were talking about with them, it's going to be the same thing. Yeaah, he's going to rush the passer a lot, but they're going to, you know, he's going to line up over the guard sometimes and have to drop down the middle of the field. Sometimes he's going to blitz and he's going to be doing a lot of different things. I think he can handle it. I'm excited for the potential of this, uh, Panthers.


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[Assistant] It's, it's just totally Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, we don't know what that's gonna look like and, and then I think a little bit of a over the do, over the top love fest of Justin Fields and


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[Assistant] The offense, right. And I think that's fantasy based too. Maybe. Right? I mean, you know, that's, that's uh, where that's at.


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[Assistant] We know that. We know that. Thank you, Captain Obvious Luke. We appreciate that. Right. But no, in serious, we know you're, you're, you're not


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[Assistant] Kind of like, always the throwing, the mechanics, you know I'm looking at that. The kind of plays they call, a little bit, right? And then, like even pre-season,


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[Assistant] The processing element. So you get into training camp and things a lot and you start to call plays and do this and you know, you get into a comfort zone and things are, oh, what's those guys over there? I know what defense, our defense plays all the time. This guy's going to be open, right?


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[Assistant] You know, this, uh, that's the thing I wanna see is, wait, the first guy's not open, how quickly are you gonna get through? That's been something that's been a little bit of an issue when you dive back into his old film of like, the first guy's not open,


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[Assistant] You know, he can hang on that guy too long or want to fit it into a tight window. Will he move on? Will he get to the second, the third guy, not hold the ball too long, get the ball out to a check down, run, do whatever. I think that's what I look for. But when I talk about the offense in general, like, if they're calling like the most basic plays in the world,


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[Assistant] You know, in some of these games, I'd go, ooh, you know, they're really still kind of keeping the training wheels on. If I see a little bit more than that, I'll go, okay, they're, they're comfort. They moved to that next phase of the playbook for him. It's not going to be Aaron Rodgers. I know that, but, uh, that's what I'll be looking for.


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[Assistant] I cannot pick Jordan Love. I'm going, I'm going inside on the D line.


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[Assistant] Right, a guy that kind of went through a lot of crap last year, he was a rookie last year, you know I liked him, but Devonte Wyatt. Wow, dang it, here you go again. Well, to me the two Georgia boys in the middle are the big ones I want to watch. Even Quay Walker, right, the linebacker. But Devonte Wyatt has


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[Assistant] They got a steal at the end of the first round because of off the field issues that he had that scared some teams.


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[Assistant] I think he was widely viewed as a top 15, top 16 pick, top half of the first round. So, yes, and he was...


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[Assistant] You know, he dealt with us some injuries and training camp or whatever else. And you know, I don't think he ever got to get to a point in the season where he was hitting on all cylinders. If he can.


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[Assistant] That takes this defense over the part, over the top. Because you add him and Kenny Clark and you got a Rashaun Gary and a Preston Smith on the outside, then you start to go, woah, there's, there's some problems here and we know those corners are good on the outside too. He's the guy I'm gonna have my eye on. Big number 95, Devontae Wyatt.


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[Assistant] Look at guys and, you know, when I do these kind of exercises, where's the money at? Or where's the...


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[Assistant] Where's the guy that's been a little inconsistency, but I see something in him that go, ooh, this could be more than just like consistently good. This could be a consistently, I kick your ass superstar, the play up type of guy. And that's what I see in Devonte Wyatt.


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[Assistant] So, you know, that's where I'm excited for him. And I mean, again, too, they got Lucas Van Ness.


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[Assistant] You know, and a first round pick there. So they got some guys with some depth on that side of the ball to be interchangeable and really mess with you.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yea, to me, it's the two Georgia boys. Quay Walker too. If he gets to where I think he can get, he can be the ultimate eraser at middle linebacker. Uh, I'm excited for this Green Bay defense. I think they're gonna have a little chip on their shoulder this year. Ninth best odds to win the NFC, the Atlanta Falcons. Woo!


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[Assistant] The Atlanta Falcons, we know we gotta see. The damn quarterback, that's for sure. The


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[Assistant] I mean, uh, the, the guard that they took, Matthew Bergeron, the tackle from Syracuse, you know I liked a lot, right? I mean, of course my eyes are gonna be on him. Because if he turns out, I mean, that O-line is gonna be dominant. I mean, dominant. Like, dominant, dominant. Right? But this is not my pick.


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[Assistant] My pick will be on the defensive side of the football here with the Atlanta Falcons. Okay. Uh, there's a team that I would say, I don't want to say won the offseason, but you know I love the offseason between the draft and free agency, but I'm gonna go to the edge. And a guy that's new to their team in Bud Dupree. Ooh, okay. Yeah, I know, it's a little off the radar. Here's why I say it.


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[Assistant] You know, they got Kaleus Campbell, got Karate Jared, you know, there are other outside linebacker defense end, Lorenzo Carter, who is on the Giants, he's a big, just like, you know, just a big strong man. Not necessarily gonna be a double-digit sack guy.


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[Assistant] I say Bud Dupree, and I say this to Falcons fans, cause let's see what he's got. Let's see. You know, he never really got back to the guy he was when he signed the big deal to go to Tennessee, in free agency when he left Pittsburgh. But, if he's close to a hundred percent, like to me,


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[Assistant] That'll change them around. Right now, I look at them and go, I like everything they've done. Their defense is gonna be good. I know Grady Jarrett can cause disruption, but who's gonna close games out and get sacks in the big moment? And that's where I go, Bud Dupree can be that guy. And if Bud Dupree becomes a pain in the ass and gets back to what he was in Pittsburgh,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, this defense I think can really surprise some people. Cause I like the secondary and I like the rest of the group. They just need to me one more playmaker splashy guy, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know, I know. That's what's hard too. You know, I don't know. You know, some teams take the route of like, hey, we're going to play our vets a little bit. They got to get out there and play and do something and learn our system and learn how we play. You know, so yeah, he is one that I might get burned by here where he might not play a ton of snaps. I think he will. You know, I like your Timmy Horn pick though.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, this is a team that's looking for some big people in the middle and he can kind of play that nose tackle, shade nose type of thing and make a mosh pit in the middle of an offensive line and clog up the run and help out and be a little, you know, depth there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, alright, the two I wrote down, and this won't be my pick, but Bobby O'Karrickie,


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[Assistant] Alright, the new free agent linebacker. The Giants for Wink Martindale's system, right? He's got no guy that really fits what he wants to do. He likes a, you know, middle of the field


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[Assistant] Patrick Queen or, you know, that's, that's what he wanted when he was in Baltimore, right? A guy that just, hey, runs with his hair on fire and just go get the ball. He didn't have that last year.


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[Assistant] So, that's where I want to say, let's watch this guy play a little bit, alright? But the one I'm gonna go is, and actually I can see that one of our fans, at NFL fan Matt, had the same one. I'm going with Evan Neil. Evan Neil, to me, if he becomes dominant,


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[Assistant] I just look at this old line and just start to go, they could be a problem for people.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you just start to break down what they could have at center.


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[Assistant] With John Michael Schmitz, the left tackle has got it. I mean, he's got it in Andrew Thomas. It's, it's official. He turned the corner and he's, I mean, of course they, they're paying him that way.


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[Assistant] Glowinski's a great run blocking old Lyman, right? So they have a chance here, if Evan Neal turns the corner and becomes what I think he can be, to where you start to go, they're gonna be able to impose their will on you in the run game no matter what.


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[Assistant] Right? Because I, hey, we questioned the receivers. I kind of wrote some of the receivers down, I know that.


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[Assistant] You know, they're kind of playing committee. They took a shot on a few guys like Paris Campbell. You know, we'll see how Jalen Hyatt works out and all that.


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[Assistant] It'll all work out if you can run up the middle for five yards with Saquon Barkley every play and protect Daniel Jones. He'll make the right read and all that. So that's why I go with them.


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[Assistant] He was on my original shortlist, you know? How could you not think about him and Kavon Thibodeau a little bit? Honestly, Ojo Lari, for my money, right? And I know people think I'm a Thibodeau hater and I get that. Yea, I gotta see a little more in the pass rushing department when you're the top 5 pick of the draft. Ojo Lari I think has more


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[Assistant] As a pass rusher than Thibodeau does. You know? So yeaah, I mean, there were two I both wrote down with you because we know the interior part of the D-Line's good, right? That's, we don't have to worry about that with the New York Giants. They got big asses to go for days over there. Dexter, Leonard Williams, they got A. Sean Robinson now. I mean, their asses aren't gonna fit on the screen.


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[Assistant] But can these guys on the edge, to your point, pop? And Ojalari is one that, yeaah, is flying under the radar who could surprise people.


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[Assistant] My little, my little mini me bowling ball. Alright, exactly right. Listen, there are a team where, when you break down the Vikings,


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot of questions. There really is. You know, I, I mean...


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[Assistant] You know, one, I'm like Marcus Davenport, right? I was him. And Andrew Booth, the kid they took from Clemson, you know, in the draft two years ago. I want to see him pop, right? I mean, they, you can go on and on. But when I come down to it and I think about, you know, the Minnesota Vikings in general, you know, the big thing to me is one,


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[Assistant] Like, Justin Jefferson ain't gonna be open like he was all year last year. Teams are this year are gonna go, we gotta see it. And then the other part of that is,


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[Assistant] You got covering people out there. Who's you covering? So this is one where I'm cheating and I'm going to the USC rookies. I'm going to the two they picked, right? Right off the bat.


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[Assistant] You know, I think Mackay Blackman, corner from USC, is the one I'd probably, if you made me pick one, I'm gonna go with him. Okay. Because I just think it's an area where they're gonna depend on him. I think from get-go here. To start, to play.


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[Assistant] To help their defense out, and yeaah, let's see where he's out.


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[Assistant] You know, he, I don't know if he starts, but he's going to be playing a lot. Where, where's he at? That's what I meant to say. Let's see where he's at. How dependable is he? You know, can he crack the starting lineup for sure and hold down that spot here through preseason? So that's the one I look at, you know, and I do want to say Jordan Addison because yeah, I just think the whole,


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[Assistant] The whole division's had the offseason to look at Minnesota and they've all taken a week or two to go, what do they do? What do they get the ball to Justin, Justin Jefferson? We want to steal that one for our offense.


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[Assistant] And then we want to stop it. And now they're all going to get to practice against it because their offense is going to steal some of the stuff that is being used against them, and they're going to be against it, let alone it's on their radar already.


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[Assistant] So that's where I go, they need somebody to take the pressure off, right? There's no Thiel in there, right? So that's where it's different. There's no Delvin Cook. That's exactly where you're, exactly. That's what I'm saying. So that's where I kind of went with the rookies. I don't want to go with the rookies in this exercise, but I did here.


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[Assistant] What is, I can't remember what he was coming out of BYU. You know, he's a nut, he's, he's that guy, nose tackle. What's he, 330 something, I feel, I wanna say? Three, six, four, 338. Alright, yeah. So he's a giant, right? And they're gonna ask him to two gap and do all that stuff. You're right. I think that's


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[Assistant] Alright, you know I'm, it's Eagles and Niners, right? I mean, it's to you two and the rest of the football universe. You don't have to be smart to figure out that, right? But like, after that, okay, Cowboys, and something I was saying last week on, on Floreo's Show in the Pocket, after that, to me it's the Seahawks. The Seahawks are the team after that. I mean,


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[Assistant] Uh, one, Geno's real, stop everybody, like, everybody's just, oh, it's gonna fall off. Geno's gonna be good, he's not gonna be the problem. The running backs are there. The receivers are there. The defense, I think, is there. Right? I'm not saying it's like top five defense in football, but I think it's gonna be damn good. If you made me pick


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[Assistant] I would say that the Seahawks are the fourth best team in the NFC. I'm sorry to your Lions, but I would put the Seahawks there first.


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[Assistant] He can do different things on the D-line. That's where Mary Edwards is great, right? He can be D-tackle, D-end, depending on the team you're playing, whatever there. So he's got great value there. It's the first time in a long time where I look at the Seattle Seahawk defense and go,


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[Assistant] They got it. You know. I'm not saying it's Legion of Boom. I mean, don't, don't get me wrong here.


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[Assistant] I just look at the front seven, right, and I know we got Jordan Brooks, he's on the pop and he's coming back. But I look at it like this, I just go, Uchenna Nowusu is a player, right?


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[Assistant] And if you're playing the 3-4, he's an outside linebacker D yet, right? They got Darrell Taylor, who I liked coming out of Tennessee, uh, three years ago. And he kind of turned the corner last year and to go like, ooh, you better watch out for him coming around the edge.


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[Assistant] You know, you just talked about Jaron Reed, alright? Solid there. They spent a bunch of money on Draymond Jones. Draymond Jones is one of the best deep lines in the football that nobody knows about. Right? What did they pay? I mean, they paid him big money. Because he's legit.


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[Assistant] I'm, the tackles. That's what we need to watch. The tackles. Alright? And I'm, I'm taking two guys here.


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[Assistant] Abraham Lucas and Charles Cross, the two guys who started as rookies last year, they, if I look at them and go, whoa, they've taken the next step.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just want to give some insight to all of it all together and make sure the podcast goes an hour and 40 minutes.


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[Assistant] Tackle. Trevor Penning. I think this is kind of an obvious one.


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[Assistant] You know, there's some questions at corner I look at and things like that. You know, how good is, hey, Allante Taylor, who started off good? What's, you know, does he take the next step? We talk about Paul Sinadibo and all that, but you know, honestly, I don't question that a whole lot.


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[Assistant] I look at, you know, last year they started James Hirsch there at left tackle most of the year, right? Trevor Penning, if he, like,


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[Assistant] Becomes what they think he can become. I'm gonna look at this offensive line and go, damn, this is one of the better offensive lines in football. And then, you know, Derek Carr being there, running back room, solid.


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[Assistant] Better than solid when Alvin Kamara is back, but then, you know, add in Michael Thomas and Rashid Shahid and Chris Olave and you go, damn, if he's got time and he can sit back there a little bit, they're going to carve some people up.


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[Assistant] No, I'm with you there too. And I liked him coming out. You know that. And I think he's got some versatility in that D-line that's gonna help them. And you know, the one thing that I was amazed by breaking him down is he is some quick twitchy athlete too.


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[Assistant] They'll figure out how to use him and what's best for him. I would be shocked if he doesn't remind us who he is a few times this year. Good pick by you.


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[Assistant] Like, Laporta, he came from an NFL offense, right? This is where he has an advantage. Not only is his skill set real,


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[Assistant] He was taught like an NFL football player. Tight end can be hard for the adjustment, right? We don't always see, like think about tight end. That's one position sometimes you don't even see, you don't see the jump right away, right? It's rare. I never know every now and then we get a Jeremy Shockey or somebody like that who comes in and we're like right from the rookie year.


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[Assistant] So, because there is some like, wait, I have to do this in the run game, and woah, there's more rules in the pass game. I think he'll be accustomed to all that. So, yeaah, I would be shocked if he's not a part of that offense. Who's your guy, though? Alright, fine. You want me to pick the guy? Sure.


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[Assistant] You know, okay, the front seven, there's a lot of guys I like, you know that.


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[Assistant] But who can make some splashes? Who other than Aiden Hutchinson can be like go above and beyond the playbook or the play call?


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[Assistant] Who can, who can do that? My, number 93, Josh Pascal, is the guy I'm gonna be watching, okay? Because he, coming out of Kentucky,


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[Assistant] Is one of those guys that has versatility, D-tackle, D-end, you know, F the play-up type of guy.


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[Assistant] You know, I think, again, this is a defense that's rooted in the New Orleans Saints, like we were just talking about, right? And we were just talking about Brian Brizzei and all that. Can he do the same type of stuff? You know, they took him, what, second round? Yep. Right? This is, they need him to turn the corner.


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[Assistant] And be something there. So, you know, I've heard he's had a good camp.


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[Assistant] You know, our guy Levi Odensarenke from Washington, he's another one I wrote down. You know, because yeaah, it's year three for him. And he hasn't quite popped or established a spot in that defense yet. But Zach Pascal, Josh Pascal, excuse me, is the one that I really look at.


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[Assistant] They definitely do. The interior part of your D needs some splash, some sizzle. And it's almost going straight back. It's like literally detackle the linebacker to safety. That whole level right there is where you just go who can make some plays, who can do some things that


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[Assistant] I do like them. They're tough to move. And some of the games where they gave up a ton of rushing yards, we were here to point out to go, it wasn't them.


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[Assistant] You know, to your point, if it's a middle linebacker play, we need Jack Campbell to be there and cover it up. Need some safeties to help out a little bit. But, it can't just be a defense all the time where it's just like, Aliyah McNeil and Isaiah Buggs just hold everybody up and hold up in the spot. Somebody's gotta bust through the line every now and then and do something. And that's where, you know, I got into the Josh Pascal


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[Assistant] It's not, but you know, I think Dallas was one out of the top teams that I was like, this is pretty cut and dry for me. You know, one, just for some fodder here.


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[Assistant] The third receiver, alright, this is not my pick, but I just wanna tell, like, hey, the third receiver, who's gonna jump up and be the third receiver? I know right now, like, hey, we know it's C.D. Lam and Brandon Cooks. Can Michael Gallup get back to what he was?


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[Assistant] Cause if he can, then watch out. They'll be scary. Right? Or is it, or is it Tolbert, you know, uh, who they drafted two years ago, Jalen Tolbert, right? You know, and we talked about him and their wide receiver rankings two years ago in the draft. But to me, just, if somebody else jumps on the scene there,


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[Assistant] And we know they'll still be able to run the ball and do that. And Dak, of course, is a good down the field thrower. I just start to go, ooh, watch out. Because you had a third guy to that group and you said, that's a tough matchup across the board. But the guy I'm gonna go with, and to me, one of the issues with their team last year, and we talked about this a lot, right? We talked about it when they were gonna play the Eagles. We talked about it when they were gonna play the 49ers.


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[Assistant] I'm going to play big enough up front to hang in there with those teams. So I'm going to go with, you know, Mozzie Blue, Mozzie Smith from, from the Blue. Yeah, Maze and Blue. Maze and Blue, right. I'm all confused. Maze, Maze, Blue.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, they're, they're a team that is, got a lot of athletes and disruptors on the D-line and the front seven.


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[Assistant] I always worried about them against the bigger teams, the bigger lines in football. Can they hang in there? Now you got a guy like him who, yea, can also shoot a gap, but he'll add some flexibility to their scheme.


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[Assistant] To where they'll be able to cheat things now a little bit. Hey Mazzie, Mazzie Smith. Oh no. I know, I'm all messed up. Hey, you take both of these gaps and this can free our linebacker up to now maybe get on the edge and, and, and worry about if Jalen Herbst keeps the ball around the edge or Daniel Jones or whatever.


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[Assistant] But it's an undersized group they've had up there. And to me, this is the first big nose tackle difference maker


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[Assistant] Tankins, I always liked Tankins, coming out of Ohio State, you know, he's kinda one of those guys who's like...


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[Assistant] You know, teams like him, they have him, but they always think, oh, he's getting a little expensive or we can find somebody a little bit better, right? That's kind of like the, the career arch he's had there, right? Uhm, he's, he's, you know, in the perfect world.


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[Assistant] They want Mozzie Smith to beat out, beat out Jonathan Hankins and they want Jonathan Hankins to be a really good backup. That would be their perfect thing. Mozzie Blue, we got it up.


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[Assistant] Shanahan in this group has a way of getting these like...


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[Assistant] Guys to go to the next level. I mean, you really look at some of the pass rushers and DNs they've had the last few years and, you know, you always go, oh, this guy's not that great or he's a journeyman or whatever else. And then they go on somewhere else after that. Cause they go, everybody watches our film goes, damn, they're good with the 49ers.


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[Assistant] They have a way about bringing out the best in some of these guys. I think they have a way of simplifying the game for these defense ends, you know, without getting into it too much. But like we always say, where they're just like, go there. That's the only job you got. Just go there, right? And unlock something for these football players. So I'm with you there.


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[Assistant] Here's another one that's not in my pick, but I wanna throw out there. Is, uh, is, uh, Jevon Kinlaw.


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[Assistant] Jovan Kenlaw has yet to pop on the scene yet. He was a top what? 13 pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] You know, they signed Javon Hargrave because why? They're worried about


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[Assistant] Javon Kinlaw, he hasn't panned out to that capacity yet. We know Eric Armstead's good, but I look at Javon Kinlaw and just go, you know, like we said with some of these teams, like, if he starts to become what they think, with those D tackles, they're gonna have depth, versatility, and we already know this team's a pain in the butt. But I think the big question is the right tackle.


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[Assistant] That, that's where, McGlinchey has been there. They haven't had a worry about tackle play in a few years. And now you got a guy in Colton McKibb, McKibbets who's


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[Assistant] You know, penciled in to be the starter. I know Jalen Moore is there too. Does, you know, and he played a decent amount last year. But that's the one I look at. You know, right tackle.


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[Assistant] Quarterback just got bad, you know, elbow and he's coming back. We need to make him feel good. Shanahan run scheme, so crucial to the overall talent of the, of the offense and the success there. So yeaah, that's one I, I want to see what he looks like in action here.


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[Assistant] I know, he's kind of been a, what's his career been? You got anything in front of you? He's been, he was off the team, on the team, right?


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[Assistant] No, no, that's why this is, this is going to be interesting to see. You know, and Shanahan, we know he's a master and he's a master at hiding holes in the offensive line too, right? But he doesn't want too many holes in his offensive line because we all know it's predicated on his run game. So yea, I'd be interested to see how that works out and what he looks like.


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[Assistant] The only thing I'll, I'll like push back with there to add our big surge is like,


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[Assistant] I mean, he's starting already, right? I mean, I think Fletcher Cox is still starting over Jordan Davis, right? I'm sure, I know they're getting in there, but I think from what I've seen or heard, Fletcher still has the advantage there. They'll cycle. Right.


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[Assistant] I'm not worried about that group right there. Now, let's extend back from there. And we saw some action there yesterday. They're all about the middle.


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[Assistant] Alright, one, the safeties are gone. Right? So that's different.


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[Assistant] They're going on Nicoby Dean. That's a big question to me. You know, you know that. I was not very high on Nicoby Dean coming out on the draft. Again, you're seeing, you know, I mean, everybody on the Georgia D line is on the All-Star team. So it was, it's not that hard to play middle linebacker behind some of those guys in college. I gotta see it to believe it.


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[Assistant] And, you know, so that to me is where I look at. We're going to look at Nicole B. Dean. And you know, what's funny is I'm doing this yesterday and I'm eating some lunch and I'm, you know, going through the exercise or whatever else and I write Nicole B. Dean and I mean, I walk outside for a minute just to like see my son. He's hanging out by the pool.


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[Assistant] And my phone buzzes as I look down and, whoa, they just signed Miles Jack and Zach Hunnigan. There are obviously some concerns about that part of the defense. There's definitely, they don't make that type of move at this point of camp unless they've started, they've seen enough to go, we need more here. Now I don't know if that's N'Kobe Dean, it's a depth, it's the other guys, whatever.


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[Assistant] Like, TJ Edwards is a hell of a player. He's a hell of a player. You know I had great respect for him. He is not easily replaced, and yea, Nicole B. Dean's got some big shoes to fill in that department.


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[Assistant] We do owe it to people. I've been getting like, I get a lot of...


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[Assistant] Like, friends texting me, like, I control the vote, which is hilarious. And I've even had some people in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And like, I'm like, dude, this is online voting. I'm not in charge of this. Like, we put out the initial names and that's it.


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[Assistant] I was scared it was going to get hijacked and we were going to have like some like, you know, like the worst player on the list was going to win like 20 player, best player of the 21st century. But I appreciate the engagement we got and I think we have a legit final 16. Like, I don't look at any of them and go, oh, that fan base hijacked


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[Assistant] And Ray Lewis, I think. Ray Lewis too, yes. I mean, Ray Lewis I would think is gonna crush Chad Johnson in that bracket, alright? No disrespect to Chad, legend, Ojo Senko, but come on, it's Ray Lewis. I mean, Ray Lewis is like, the greatest middle linebacker in the history of football. But I look at the other, like, Rivas vs. Kronkowski?


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[Assistant] Oh I know, that's just bad too. Yea, that's right. A little bit is like who you caught in the bracket, you just get a little unlucky. Derek Henry vs. JJ Watt?


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[Assistant] I mean, those are real. Kelsey versus, you know, LeDany and Tomlinson. Julio Jones versus Luke Keakley. Dawkins versus Michael, Brian Dawkins versus Michael Strahan. I mean, Larry Fitz versus Aaron Donald. I mean, really, out of the last 16 here, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, almost any of them, I'd go, any of them could be, I wouldn't be mad at any of them being the best player of the century. Maybe Chad Otrosenko would be one, alright? I'm gonna get him on me here. He might be the only one where I'd go, I don't think he deserves that, but I think the rest of them are maybe all like,


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[Assistant] I picked some bones with Chad twice over the last few weeks. Now I've gone there. And then I got into it. I think he is still in charge of...


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[Assistant] Right, I'm watching him on Instagram the other day. It was an Instagram, it might have been Twitter. He wants all, all receivers to send him


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[Assistant] Video footage of their one on ones. Not because he wants to put it on social media, because he wants to watch it. He's like a nerd. He wants to see it. And then he'll probably text them or DM them or whatever to go, hey, you're doing this and this route. You need to fix it or whatever. He's a true technician. He's amazing that way. Cool. Alright, back to the lab. Back to the lab. You got more big butts to look at.


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[Assistant] Look at this. Wow. Very rare. But, uh, please continue to send your engagement in. Subscribe, rate, review. Chris Sims on button. Thanks so much for listening. Peace out to the homies. We'll see you soon. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Yo, yo, thanks for watching homies. I appreciate it. As always, the NFL season is right around the corner. So now it's your turn to hit subscribe to Chris Sims on Button. If you want to get all the training camp battles, preseason film review, playoff predictions, and much, much more, you know where to find it. It's right here. Chris Sims on Button. Please subscribe. Thanks again for watching. Peace out, homies. See you soon.


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[Assistant] Is impossible, what we said at the top of the pod. Yeah. You to be replicated by AI. No one knows what's gonna come out of your head. I would guarantee, I would venture to guess that there are 50% of the time, like 50 instances in this podcast maybe, where you might not know what's gonna come out of your mouth.


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[Assistant] Okay. That's your little advice. Woodford Reserve. Woodford Reserve. Former sponsor of the pod. That's right. Are we getting them back, Pete? What happened? If we keep saying it, Pete says they will come back.


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[Assistant] We didn't even nail the number of picks, so we're off to a bad start here. Uh, Paul Sarts wants to know, and we wanted to know this too, cause Pete and I were standing around after our pod last week, we were like, wait, how do we do the mock draft? He goes, your mock draft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and we'll make that clear as we go too. This is a spot where maybe you wouldn't pick this player, but you know what kind of player this team or this coach usually likes. So we'll slot that player there. Uh, this is a question from Jake Scanlon.


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[Assistant] Will there be trades in this mock, like in 2021? It would be more realistic that way. There were eight trades on the night of round one last year, so it was a very active first round. I will let everyone know there are no trades. No trades.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well there's even one of the teams, the Cardinals at three, you hear a lot, oh they're gonna trade out of it, they're gonna trade out of it, but even with that discussion, no one really knows who's trading up or for who. No. Right? It's like, that's one of the obvious ones that everyone keeps saying, oh they're gonna trade down, they're gonna trade down, but who's trading up and for which player?


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[Assistant] And that was the trade that already happened. The Carolina Panthers moving up to number one trading with the Chicago Bears a few weeks ago to take that number one spot. At the time, we thought maybe it was for CJ Stroud. That's more of Frank Wright's alley of the kind of quarterback that he's liked in the past. Recent reports have indicated maybe that's not the case here. So we'll start the number one pick, the Carolina Panthers. Who are they taking?


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[Assistant] I would guarantee that there are people in that building that think, you know what, if it was up to me and I had the sole decision, I would take, you know, whoever, Anthony Richardson or Will Levis or CJ Stroud. And so kind of take us behind the curtain there on how that


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[Assistant] Plays out because I'm sure that there are people that are maybe a little doubtful or skeptical that are big decision makers in that organization.


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[Assistant] We'll save it for when we get to CJ Straub. We don't know exactly where he's going to fall in your mock draft. Uh, not number one, that was Bryce Young. Maybe number two, the Houston Texans. That's been rumored for a long time. Your number two pick in the draft is?


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[Assistant] So you guaranteed on this pod, it was what? Three weeks ago? Three and a half weeks ago?


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[Assistant] You go, you know, Will Anderson's getting all the love. He is the guy that people say could be number one overall pick, has that talent. And you said, I guarantee you, he will not be the first edge off the board. As we sit here right now, Will Levis is actually the betting favorite to go number two right now to the Texans at minus 145 to bet MGM. Uh, but you are confident in the fact that


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[Assistant] Your declaration will be proven true that Will Anderson will not be the first edge off the-


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[Assistant] How far will Will Anderson fall in the Chris Sims mock draft? So we go on to the Cardinals now with a third pick in the draft. No trades. So with a three pick, the Cardinals will take...


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[Assistant] I would take him at three. Would this be one of those picks that you were talking about before that teams that don't think they're a whole lot of high impact players, they just want a safe guy. They want a guy who's going to play well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so of course he's not a good, uh, so you've come off the fact that you, you thought that once everyone saw the tape of Will Anderson, that he would not even be a top 10 pick. Now you do believe that that possibility is obviously okay.


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[Assistant] So maybe a little bit of a surprise to me that I see Will Anderson there at 3.


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[Assistant] And I think it would also be a surprise if quarterbacks don't go in the top three. I think there was a time there where we thought it was guaranteed that a quarterback would go one, two, maybe one, two, three, maybe one, two, three, four. But here we are to number four. Only one quarterback off the board. The Colts on the clock. Who are they taking? They are going with Will Levis right here. Yeah.


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[Assistant] We told you Will Lovis was the betting favorite to go number two. He's also the betting favorite to go number four overall on BetMGM plus 120. Yeah, I've...


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[Assistant] And it probably makes sense. They can picture it better. Where with Anthony Richardson, maybe there's more of an uneasy, unknown of how are we going to fit him into the offense? What are we going to have to teach him? What does he have to improve upon most? And have we taught that in the past? Have we been able to do that successfully? And so maybe some of those.


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[Assistant] More ready than Richardson is for sure. So your number five quarterback and number five edge are both off the board in the top four. Yeaah. This is going crazy already. The number five overall pick, Seattle Seahawks on the clock, sitting there, Pete Carroll. What are we going to do? General Card, General Card, General Card, General Card. He's rushing that card up to the podium.


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[Assistant] And let me just get this straight. If this happens, you think this is the biggest steal of the draft up to this point? Definitely.


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[Assistant] Generational. Right. When was the last time? It was two years ago. Quick generations we got. We got now. So my lions are bummed. Oh baby. They probably would have taken Jalen Carter if he was there. I think they would. They would if he's there. So they, uh, in this situation have to audible.


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[Assistant] At the time you made the proclamation too that he was your number one corner, it was pretty unanimous that it was Christian Gonzalez from Oregon, but you've moved some, some betting odds and some minds of people this year because I do see Devin Witherspoon number one in a lot of places now.


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[Assistant] So, Devin Witherspoon, corner out of Illinois, gotta make sure that we say that just in case you're not as familiar with some of these guys at this point in the draft process. So, if a team were to take Christian Gonzalez over Devin Witherspoon, what are they valuing over what you see with Witherspoon?


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[Assistant] Seven to the Raiders, your former head coach, Josh McDaniels. That's right. Former, uh, co-worker, New England. Yep. Uh, they got, they got some needs. They do. Offense was pretty good last year. Defense has not been good for a while for them. They're on the clock. Where are they going?


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[Assistant] Uh, from Northwestern, but he's the second choice. There it is, Paris Johnson, minus 175. So you must have called up your friends over at BetMGM and be like, how does this sound? And they go, actually, that sounds pretty good. Make it the favorite. Um, and so I guess those are some of the questions Skoronsky and Wright for you are not as good of fits for what the Raiders want to do.


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[Assistant] The first round, you go, man, I'm just going to go with Vegas next year. Cause they nailed a lot of it. You know, some of those things are head scratchers, but it's like Vegas new. I know. Vegas new. We're going to have Jay Croucher who basically is Vegas. I feel like he sets these lines.


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[Assistant] He should at this point. He'll be on the pod Wednesday to do his draft prop bets with us. So Jay will be with us to talk betting on Wednesday. We'll still sprinkle some in here on this Monday mock draft pod. We continue with the number eight pick Falcons on the clock. Where are you going with this one? Okay.


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[Assistant] This would have been a crazy take. Are you serious? We thought he was going to go number one when the Panthers moved up a few weeks ago. The shine is off on a lot of these quarterbacks, but specifically CJ Stroud and one of the numbers out there being quoted is his result in the S2 cognitive test.


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[Assistant] I have no idea what it is. Never taken it. Never took the wonder look either. We should take that just to give a baseline. That'd be cool. Be like, this is what Ahmet Fareed, just random host for NBC Sports did. That can just be kinda like, yeah, that guy's an idiot. And if you did better than him, it's like, okay, that's, that's at least something.


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[Assistant] Uhm, CJ Stroud was reportedly not even just didn't do well, he was like one of the worst performers in that test. Can, like do you know what this test is first of all?


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[Assistant] Is the idea that the Wonderlic was more of just an IQ test that maybe didn't relate to football, but the S2 cognition is supposed to be all geared towards what makes you good on a football field?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was just gonna say, let's make this clear then. When you just watch the tape on CJ Stroud, you still like him better than any quarterback in this class. I really do.


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[Assistant] But I think that they made a prudent move and a very wise choice to trade that pick when they did because when they traded it, I think there was a lot of chatter that, well, these quarterbacks are very, very good. And as the process has gone on, I don't know that they could, maybe they could, maybe.


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[Assistant] The Panthers like Bryce Young that much to where they would do that trade again, but I don't know. It seems like the shine is off a lot of these quarterbacks where they struck while the iron was hot. Uhm, so I give them a lot of credit. They got some assets and now they're picking nine and picking who?


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[Assistant] If that works out this way, that's a pretty good off season for Justin Fields. Oh my gosh. They like you. You're still the number one quarterback. They're not taking a quarterback. They get you DJ more and then they get you some protection up front with Peter Skowronski. I think it'd be a great day for Justin Fields if it plays out like this. Last pick in the top 10.


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[Assistant] That's always the one that's hard to figure out. It's just a fan like me, a normal fan. Everyone was like, he's a top three player, he's a top five player. One of the best backs we've seen since Saquon Barkley. He'll go at the end of the first round. You're just like, I know that running backs are considered to be like a dime a dozen, but you just said that this guy is elite and he's better than all those guys. But it really does come down to,


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[Assistant] You know, what can you find to replace them? And what's the current pay structure for some of these players? Because, I mean, I don't know if people know it out there, it's like these


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[Assistant] Salaries are locked in. You're slotted in. So CJ Stroud, if he goes at eight and then you got Bijan Robinson at 10 for the first five years of their career, they're making the same amount of money. And so obviously when quarterbacks are making 50 million a year.


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[Assistant] It's better to have one of those on the rookie scale than it is to have a running back who the best ones are making 10 million a year and so the math just is not in the favor of running backs.


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[Assistant] So who knows though, 11 here, you got the Tennessee Titans, they got a running back, Derrick Henry, maybe they just make a call real quick, go here, take Derrick Henry, we'll take that 10 spot and we'll take Bijon Robinson, who knows if we were to do trades and get crazy, uh, but the Tennessee Titans at 11.


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[Assistant] Tennessee Titans at 11, so they can do a few things here. Right?


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[Assistant] So then you got the Tennessee Titans, er, I'm sorry, the Houston Texans next. We just did the Tennessee Titans. Now you got the Houston Texans, making their second pick of the first round.


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[Assistant] They took your edge, your guy, Tyree Wilson with the number two overall pick.


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[Assistant] So do they continue to beef up their defense or do they add to the offensive side?


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[Assistant] Are you fairly confident that one of these guys, maybe it's not Richardson, maybe it's Levis, maybe it's even Stroud, one of these guys is gonna fall out of the top ten of those four that you've had drafted so far.


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[Assistant] At 13, the Jets don't need a quarterback. They got...


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson on the roster. That's it right now. Really? I guess one day maybe Aaron Rodgers. But, uh, offense pretty good last year, even despite some of the struggles, good running back, coming back and Breece Hall. They were fun to watch. They were fun to watch. Despite all the drama going on. So where did the Jets go at 13?


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[Assistant] Alright, so the Jets getting even stronger up front. Winning football. The Patriots, they usually try to be strong up front. The secondary though is usually where they have a lot of their stars and end up going to other teams and not playing that well. Alright, so middle of the first round, you got the Patriots, Colestrange off the board because he was drafted last year. Are they going off the board again with some crazy name?


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[Assistant] Are they gonna get a weapon for their new quarterback? And Jordan loves some protection on the offensive line. Are they gonna go defense that was disappointing last year a little bit?


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[Assistant] He is your number one tight end. He is the number one tight end off the board in your mock draft.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't it be kind of funny if this really does happen because Pete notes here in our rundown, Green Bay's last two offensive skill positions drafted in round one.


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[Assistant] You had Jordan Love in 2020, who probably didn't make Aaron Rodgers happy. And the only one previously before that was Aaron Rodgers himself. He was never given a first round wide receiver. And now they get a superstar tight end. Now they get a superstar tight end, perhaps.


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[Assistant] Sixteen. The Washington Commanders. With the first tight end off the board. Where do they go?


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[Assistant] Well, the only team that took a quarterback last year in the first round of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Kenny Pickett, who I was reading somewhere has gained some weight. He's gotten stronger, gotten bigger. He needs it. Might take a step forward and a year to the year one wasn't too bad for him. There were some big moments from Steelers on the clock at 17. What are they thinking?


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[Assistant] And safe to say, if he does go this late in the first round, you think he would be a steal right up there with Jalen Carter going five overall, right? This is a good lineman to go mid late first round.


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[Assistant] Alright, I do know who you like, and when I look at the highlights of these guys, I'm always like, Chris is gonna like that guy. Devon Witherspoon was one of those players, the corner out of Illinois, who went to the Lions with their first pick in this first round. Lions on the clock again. Give me someone else good. 18 overall.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you just went off like the physical specimen of a man, he would be a top ten, maybe even a top five pick, but he's raw. There are some things on tape gets handled sometimes too much more so than you want a guy that saws a little bit. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And this is not totally off the board too, like a guy who you think is a second round talent really because he's your number four offensive tackle as well. He's the number four offensive tackle off the board here.


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[Assistant] Cole, Strange, UT, Chattanooga, yeaah. Hopefully you have another moment like that. Uh, 20, Seahawks, second pick of the first round, they took Jalen Carter with their first pick.


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[Assistant] And he could go, you know, 12 and people say, well, he's more of a 20 guy or more of a 25, but the team picking 12 is not picking in the twenties and maybe no one will trade down or let them, you know, trade up to let them trade down. Exactly. So it's like, what are you supposed to do? You like the guy.


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[Assistant] Take em eight picks too early, and sometimes it's worth it to get the guy you want.


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[Assistant] You gotta figure out a way to stop teams from coming back from 30 something points down in the playoffs. So they go defense with their first round pick.


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[Assistant] Your number one wide receiver when you did your rankings. He is the first wide receiver off the board for you and your mock draft. I think we have the


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[Assistant] First wide receivers selected in the last five drafts. There is some talk that it might be.


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[Assistant] Jackson Smith and Jigba in this spot is the first wide receiver off the board. You see, how have they done here in the past? Well, Drake London, I think maybe a little bit of a slow start, but a good finish to the year for him in Atlanta. Jamar Chase, obviously very good. Henry Ruggs, a bust was off field, uh, uh, issues, obviously Marquise Brown.


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[Assistant] Luke warm on that. Who knows if it was the situation or the fit, but he has not lived up to that first round billing. And DJ Moore, a guy who you like that has inconsistent quarterback play around him for most of his NFL career.


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[Assistant] I think it's there. And Pete notes too, sorry Chris, that the total number of wide receivers in the first round, we had six just last year, five the year before that, and then six in 2020.


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[Assistant] We'll get to Smith and Jigba, or will we? Will he drop out of the first round? Little suspense. 22 Ravens, defensive secondary, uh, perhaps an issue for them. We saw it as Tua tore him up early on in the year last year, even though they addressed it with Kyle Hamilton last year. Uh, Ravens, holes to fill. Where do you see them going?


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[Assistant] Alright, so Pete notes in my ear that we have seen that workout in the past. Aiden Hutchinson staying close to home. You got Mazzie Smith staying close to home again. You got Kenny Pickett who's right next door.


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[Assistant] The Vikings at 23, let's go with, uh, John Michael Smits out of Minnesota. Center. Let's just do that, cause we'll keep it close to home.


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[Assistant] I don't want to make another bet where you have to kiss your own backside. Well, I could one cheek at a time here. But how confident are you that Hendon Hooker will go in the first round?


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[Assistant] The teams will trade in, last pick of the first round just to get that guaranteed fifth year, at least the option for that. That's extremely important. Fifth year if things are going in the right direction. Twenty-four, you got the Jacksonville Jaguars, they don't need a quarterback, they got their guy in Trevor Lawrence, looked like a franchise quarterback last year, so where do they go?


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[Assistant] Cause that was my question cause he was your number two corner. He's your number four corner off the board in your mock draft. Uhm, yeaah. I wonder how many people throughout the league share your view of him because your view is not consensus.


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[Assistant] Well now with your connections and your history and you putting DJ Turner here to the Giants, that will be the consensus pick here in moments. 26, most hated rival, the Cowboys, on the clock now.


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[Assistant] The number one center off the board, he is your number one center. Yeaah. In college football too. Yeaah, he was. Uh, goes to the Cowboys at 26. Then you got the Bills. Sitting next to you for a year watching the Buffalo Bills, you just kept saying, they need to add some more weapons for, for Josh Allen. Yeaah. They need more offensive weapons. Right, right. Can they do it in the dream?


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[Assistant] Jackson Smith and Jigba is the favorite to be the first wide receiver taken according to bet MGM minus 500, but you have Zay Flowers going ahead of him. Uhm, yeaah, it is, it's hard to


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[Assistant] Visualize how this would happen, right? If some teams do have them as a top 15, maybe they would.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that is a receiver, cause that's one of those names that were thrown around there in the Jamar Chase, kind of like franchise changing receiver, like at Ohio State, he was one of the best ones we had there, even while we had Olave and Garrett Wilson.


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[Assistant] Cincinnati Bengals probably don't need a wide receiver. Got a good wide receiver room. They're on the clock at 28.


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[Assistant] We did see last year with Samajay Perrine, how they gave him a little bit extra juice, and Joe Mixon was not giving him, uh, that juice, and so yea, maybe they do see that as a position of need.


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[Assistant] And you made sure to say too when you did your running back rankings, like Bijan Robinson, people are talking about him as being a generational football player. You're like, Jamar Gibbs does a lot of things really good and is not far behind.


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[Assistant] The Eagles value the big dudes up front on the offensive and defensive line, although you had them taking Bijon Robinson with the number 10 overall pick. They're back here on the clock at number 30.


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[Assistant] Drafting for need in the NFL. They were like, you're always going to need these, all these positions every year. You're going to need them. The turnover is so great from year to year, injuries and contracts and whatnot, demand trades. So, uh, yeah.


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[Assistant] Beef up on any part of your football team that you can. You like Will McDonnell a lot. You gotta run on edge here at the end of your first round. You got Lucas Van Ness, then you got Will McDonnell. Last pick of the first round, the Chiefs at 31.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And it seems like always there are receivers out there who want to play with Patrick Mahomes too.


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[Assistant] So that's it. That's it. Your first round in the book. Peace out. There's the answer key. I hope you're not too upset now that we gave it away like Schefter. Don't even watch Thursday night. On draft night. Uhm, we'll take a look at it by the numbers here. So we got six edge. You had a run on edge there at the end. So we got up to six edge. And I might be late with those guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, usually. But he's been the guy that's been there a long time too, so he's had the benefit of that narrative for longer than some of these other players. A couple wide receivers, a couple running backs off the board, two tight ends ultimately, no linebackers, no safeties, just like you said when we were ranking those players.


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[Assistant] And this is how you had the quarterbacks when it was all said and done. You had five first round quarterbacks, which I think.


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[Assistant] You know, before you put Hendon Hooker's name in the middle of all those four quarterbacks that everyone was talking about, I think most people thought there'd be four first round quarterbacks. Um, but you had, you had five in there and I think do we have the, uh, there it is. You had Bryce going number one overall. We think that's going to happen. Then you had Will Leves to the Colts.


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[Assistant] Stroud to the Falcons, Anthony Richardson goes to the Texans with their second pick in the first round, then Hendon Hooker to the Vikings. That's your quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Alright, so homies out there, I'm sure you have questions. You don't want to pick Chris' brain about something. Send them our way, we're going to do that on


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[Assistant] And, uh, we're gonna pick his brain about the draft here today and have some fun. Yeah, so some of your credentials, Jay. So last year at this time, let me get this straight. You were the head trader at PointsBet. Yep. And Pete is putting the rundown here, a question for you, which I imagine is probably true. The NFL Draft was maybe one of the most, if not the most stressful big event that you do every year as a head trader.


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[Assistant] Yeah, here are the numbers for the second overall pick. You got Wilson there plus 135, Levis at plus 220 as we speak, and Will Anderson Jr. plus 300. Are those numbers you're seeing elsewhere? 2J?


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[Assistant] Like a message board back in the day. Will Levis currently plus 4,000 is what this poster said. Plus 4,000 to be the first overall pick. Well ladies and gentlemen, he's telling friends and family, Carolina will in fact take him on Thursday. You are welcome. So telling everyone to place their bets as we speak. And a lot of people did that.


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[Assistant] Because the odds move significantly, and so, Jay, I want you to put yourself back in the position of head trader. And you get a rumor like that. And you see what the numbers did. I mean, we go from plus 5,000 to plus 400 just in the matter of a night. Uhm, how are you reacting to that, that rumor on Reddit?


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[Assistant] That's bad, so why, why even take this anymore? I wanna go to the third pick. Because I think that's really interesting too, because you have a team there.


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[Assistant] That might not want to stay there. And so now you're not just trying to place a need with the Arizona Cardinals. You're like, alright, who may trade up? Who may?


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[Assistant] They like, and so the Eds as we, uh, currently have them right now, these could change. They probably have changed by the time you're watching this. Uh, Tyree Wilson, the favorite to go third overall as well, plus 300, but then you got Will Anderson right behind him. You got CJ Stroud tied with Will Anderson at plus 350. Paris Johnson, a tackle off the board at plus 400.


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[Assistant] Then you got a couple of quarterbacks there in Richardson and Levis and Jalen Carter pops up for the first time at plus fourteen hundred. So yeaah, how did the third overall pick?


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[Assistant] The number three is all over the place. It's a scary, it's a scary time for us on this podcast because we have, uh, staked our claim that Will Anderson is not the best defensive player in this draft and Chris has actually made a bet. He's kissed feet on this pod before and now he actually might have to kiss his own rear.


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[Assistant] Over, under, pick three and a half. Over is minus 175. Under is plus 135. So Chris, it looks like you might not have to do that. So I guess, Jay, that means that Vegas thinks he might fall out of the top three? Is that what that means?


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[Assistant] I would think so. So Jalen Carter's over under at pick 6.5. The over is plus 155. The under is minus 190. So it seems like, yea, either Seattle, the Cardinals who knows, but Detroit seems like a floor.


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[Assistant] Let's talk a little bit about quarterbacks here, because I think a lot of people had those four quarterbacks going pretty early, and then maybe no other quarterback going in the first round. When Chris did his mock draft on Monday, you had Hendon Hooker in there, and you've been higher on Hendon Hooker than the community, although he's gotten some love.


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[Assistant] So here with Sims' mock draft on Monday, had Hendon Hooker going 23rd overall to the Minnesota Vikings. So the line right now for quarterbacks in the first round, over under 4.5 is, over is minus 160, under is plus 130, so it looks like


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think quarterbacks is interesting. How many will go? Where will Hendon Hooker go? Will he be in the first round? And also the wide receivers, because we saw such a prolific wide receiver class last year. What was it? Six in the first round. Right. And this year,


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[Assistant] So Jay, Chris only had two in his first round. The over under is three and a half, and it's about even either way, uh, betting the over or the under here. So kind of what's your, what's your feel on the wide


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[Assistant] The cool thing is we all find out on Thursday, right? It all happens before our eyes, which is the cool thing about all this. We see if we're right or wrong or if teams thought differently than the consensus out there. So Jay, before we let you go, we got to get a couple of actionable thoughts and perhaps bets out there.


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[Assistant] Make us some money. Your favorite chalk bet. So the bet out there that is the favorite, but you're like, yeah, I'm going, still some value there.


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[Assistant] North Dakota State offensive tackle was not in your first round mock. No. You were one of my favorite guards. He was our honor guard.


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[Assistant] That was awesome. Alright, so those are some of the predictions out there. Vegas has got their predictions, but as always, we like the input from the homies too, right? We gotta have it. And so Pete has put this together once again, and I'm going to fill this out later today.


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[Assistant] Here's the promo for it. I'm gonna just read it. Read it. The 2023 draft is almost here.


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[Assistant] And now you can predict who you think will be selected for your chance to hear your name on the podcast and receive some Chris Sims unbuttoned swag. Yes. Yes. As I promised on Twitter, I go, you'll have it by 2028. We'll get there. Maybe 2029. And Pete goes, come on. I go, that's a, that's a safe promise.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so go to Chris's Twitter account that is at CSimsQuarterback. There's no blue check there, so you just have to trust that that's actually Chris. Right. That's gone.


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[Assistant] Uh, there's a link to the contest there. Polls close at 2pm Eastern on Thursday, April 27th. Results gonna be revealed on the Monday pod, May 1st. Uh, we've already got 323 responses so far.


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[Assistant] I hope that we get one homie, so if you're listening to this or watching it, go out there and fill it out because I want one homie to nail the top ten. Damn, I, uh, me too.


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[Assistant] I think it's gotta be linked to an email address. We're gonna check too, so be careful out there. Uh, that's awesome. Alright, so get out and fill out your top 10. We got some more questions from the homies, cause we like to answer those all the time as well. And this first one, Pete, there's no name associated with it. Is this just you, Pete?


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[Assistant] Hey Chris, love the show, looking awesome as always. Who are some players who weren't in your round one who you think could still go there? So you didn't have a mocked in the first round, we just heard about Cody Mark, or Mock, that could go in the first round. Who are some other names that you think could go?


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[Assistant] Is that based on the fact that there could be a run on offensive linemen or those things that you're hearing from some of your friends out there?


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a hard exercise because there's so many obviously variables here and how different teams view these players, what they need and then how much it costs, you know, taking a running back high, you gotta pay him the same as a quarterback who hits and it's just not worth it. Yeah. So those guys fall. Yeah, there's a lot. So this question kind of, um,


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[Assistant] Leads to that, and I think, Pete, did you move it down there? Oh, here it is.