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[Assistant] Robert might have taken it to the house on that one. So it's turned into a great story. I finally said, did you guys figure out who it was? Cause I had a pretty good idea when I heard the voice and I understood why there's a similarity there. I get it. And they said, yes, it's Ron Pitts. Yes. And Ron Pitts was a great football player.


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[Assistant] It had been Phil Simms and Jim Nance for a long time. Obviously Coach Madden did it in the beginning with Pat Sumrall. We've had great announcers like Brad Nestler, Gus Johnson, you know, riding down the line. Of course they had the college game, which is coming back.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's Coach Madden's franchise. We are very fortunate, but I'll leave you with this.


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[Assistant] Very few players knew it was me. I talk to players every week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel very fortunate obviously to be with, with, with him and Evan, obviously. Now, we came together COVID year.


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[Assistant] And this is where now I heard you discuss, I heard a good portion of your discussion. I thought it was really good because it's the age old. Is there a tipping point? Is there one person that can cause this thing to crumble or is it always just next man up and you figure out a way, which is what Cleveland has been doing.


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[Assistant] I also think you gotta start looking at that front office with Andrew Barry and saying, okay, there are guys who are filling in. You're getting them.


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[Assistant] Then you go to Stefanski and his staff and how they're coaching them to have them ready to go because they're actually getting good play from people. This isn't just simply, we've got to work around everything because some of the things you can't work around, they have to just jump up and play.


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[Assistant] But he didn't get discouraged. He got himself ready to go and he played a heck of a game on Sunday. So as I said, I'm not discounting injuries. Everyone has them. And in this league, no one cares.


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[Assistant] And I thought on Sunday he showed all the reasons why if the Browns don't get exactly where they want to go.


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[Assistant] But I'm just gonna tell you what I think the difference is. When I watched him play with DTR, the defense played like they had to win the game.


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[Assistant] In this case, they were able to play and say, guess what? If something goes wrong, we're good because our quarterback will find a way and the offense gave him something that we hadn't seen in recent weeks.


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[Assistant] Did we not give up Cincinnati for dead about two weeks ago? Yep. That's over. They're back in it because


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[Assistant] They got that young quarterback who thinks he can play. And by the way, his last two games, he played.


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[Assistant] So now Cincinnati's back in it with their defense. I do think it comes out of the north. Cincinnati or Cleveland are the two that scare me because both of them can take the ball away on defense.


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[Assistant] That's the big deal for both of those defenses and Cleveland got back to it on Sunday.


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[Assistant] And Cincinnati's getting back to it now under Lou Anna Rumo. So those two scare me. Pittsburgh's sitting in a spot right now that one, we can't believe they're in, and two, do we really believe they'll maintain it?


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[Assistant] I'm not so sure they can, just based off of what we've seen all season long. Mike Tomlin, love him to death. But that offense, woo, that's tough.


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[Assistant] Is he not making big time throws and plays, tight windows, reading coverages? That deep ball he threw on Sunday. The Deba was not supposed to be the Deba.


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[Assistant] He read the safety getting flat footed and said, Oh, let's take the shot and let it rip. Bam. Now that's what I like about him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the story is great and all that, but guess what? He's a legit player and we're having that guy kind of emerge.


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[Assistant] That's what the good ones do. That's what I loved about time is coming out of school. This is what...


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[Assistant] He was on a 5-win Carolina team and didn't win MVP.


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[Assistant] It's usually a quarterback thing. That's why I kind of go in Purdy's direction.


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[Assistant] I would, I would pull the old, remember the old commercials where the guy would get into the car and go into situations and they'd say, are you Dr. Galakowitz? Yes, I am. That would be me. If you know better.


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[Assistant] I take them, I take them teams. No, they're good championships. We could, we could use Otto Gramm if Joe Flack will get third. We could have used him. Otto Gramm is a Swiss army knife. He did everything. He did everything. Yeah, go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, I- I- I- I- I- No, that's Honey. She's, uh, she's Paxton. She's a- she's a honey bear.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm gonna read them out though. Go back to that one. Yeah, go back to that one. So we can see who won. So shout out to Eric Peters, John Smirk, Noel Hackworth, Steve Royer, Brian Cherry, Bonnie,


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[Assistant] Bonnie Viya, I don't, she hasn't replied yet, so if you know Bonnie out there, tell her to hit me up at Gbush91. Michael Longley in Tampa Bay, Jay-Z on Stomping Ground, Kenesha Colabe, or Colbele, or whatever it is. I haven't got yours, and Elizabeth Perola. That's crazy, Paralline, yeaah.


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[Assistant] This right here is a purple playoff pack hoodie. Right now. So listen, the Ravens stole our colors and flipped it and won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] We stole Joe Flacco, took their colors, flipped it, made the playoffs. Purple pack hoodies, you'll find out who won those coming up on Thursday. We'll let you know who got those.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I said, you know, I was excited, I said, I'm gonna give five of these away. Okay. I'm gonna give five of these away. And basically, I told him, send a code word, Flacco.


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[Assistant] The whole thing flooded. I got five winners and we're going to announce those on Thursday coming up on the show. Okay, cool.


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[Assistant] So I go watch Bulls blog, I go listen to- I get in the car, go listen to Tyves, and then I- I- when I'm in the car, I'm like half listening a little bit, so I listen to everybody when they win.


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[Assistant] The only thing I could think about if I was a Baltimore Ravens fan was please don't get injured.


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[Assistant] You play three teams, these teams, these games all count for these other teams. So it's not like at the end of the season where people don't have their guys in.


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[Assistant] You know, a likely came out of anywhere. He was unlikely to be a good contributor. He just pulls up.


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[Assistant] I would, I, you know, I would not want to get Lamar Jackson hurt. And I'm gonna ask you guys this question too. Is there a way?


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[Assistant] That the Browns would be locked into one of the positions because a lot of people are wondering, hey,


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[Assistant] You know, if we get locked into a position, is it, can we rest some guys? Would you rest some guys? I would. I would definitely rest.


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[Assistant] Pretty huge. I think he's about, he might be a mid-90s, 900s. Yeah. And, you know, you look at what Joe Flacco


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[Assistant] Like it's funny how quarterbacks work. It's just like they find a guy, right? And they're like, listen, PJ Walker is going to throw the ball to Mari Cooper regardless. Like DTR didn't really have a person, like he was throwing the rock to.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson really didn't establish a particular guy, but it's clear that David Njoku is the guy that, that, you know, he feels the best throwing the ball to.


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[Assistant] I would say Wyatt Taylor should be in the Pro Bowl. I mean, he's lasted the longest out of anybody. He's started all these games. He was injury prone the last couple of years. I think he's played well. I would argue that Taylor should be in that.


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[Assistant] I watched an interview where he talks about some of the different things he's doing. Like with his body. Like being able to be on the field. He's cut a lot of stuff out of his diet. He's a very like spiritual type dude. So he's really, you know, dedicated himself to doing certain things. But one thing that I don't think a lot of people understand is, last April, uhm,


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[Assistant] And this kinda, it was crazy. It got swept under the rug a little bit. Uhm, J.O.K.'s brother died in a house fire.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that was, this is on April 7th, 2022.


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[Assistant] So uhm, you know, his, you know, his Joshua Emmanuel was found dead in a home in Hampton, Virginia. And this report state that there was a fire at the house, but the Hampton police are putting a homicide investigation to his death.


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[Assistant] So, you know, he lost his brother and not a lot of, it kind of was like, okay, cool, let go. He was injured a lot. He was hurt.


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[Assistant] Then you lose your brother, and tragically like that.


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[Assistant] That just goes to show you for me when De'Quel says he don't have the instincts. I just don't think he was all there. I don't think he was locked in like that.


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[Assistant] So he had three and a half sacks. Those sacks count as tackle for loss. So if you take those out of the equation, he still has 14 or 15 tackles for loss in the run game.


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[Assistant] By itself. That's crazy. And five pressures. Right. And still you have 84 tackles. So, to me,


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett, I'm sorry big dawg, you know what I'm saying? I'm looking at it like this man, like listen, you hit me up, we still can hang out and stuff like that man, maybe on another day, but yeaah, I didn't know you had 100 tackles for loss and 35 sacks. I got it.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you see the bronze play at home, it's almost like...


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[Assistant] They're, they're playing at a different speed than the rest of these people. Like they fly around and it's just spooky. I don't understand it. And he's one of those dudes that just flies around. He got to sack last week. And it's weird because I listened to, uh, who was saying this? I think it's Chris, Chris Sims, Phil Sims, uh, kid.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it all depends on how the guy that they bring in would probably have to be pretty smart.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because I think, you know, Hudson was already in the mix. Christian has been here for how long?


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[Assistant] If we was really excited or we really wanted to do something.


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[Assistant] Where this really comes down to is, as you can see, I make that declaration. I, listen, I'm not going, I'm no longer on the, on the, on the play to play stuff.


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[Assistant] I'm not, as I said in the barbershop yesterday, I said, I'm no longer looking at play to play, down to downplay calls. Because at this point, the Browns are going to have to employ some sort of smoking mirror.


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[Assistant] They don't ask the guys up front to run the ball consistently. They don't, it's too much to ask for.


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[Assistant] Four guys who are relatively second or third stringers to hold up to like run the football against these playoff teams. So the Browns are going to have to do some smoke and mirrors. That's trick plays. Whatever trick play he want to run, whatever it is, what it is. It work, it work, it don't, it don't. And especially with the run game. Right now, to be truthful,


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[Assistant] And I know they probably got one of these dudes in the NFL. Like we talk about getting some guys off practice squad. Yea. These dudes probably be telling film dudes, hey I want you to get me a film on every tackle in the league on practice squad.


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[Assistant] Somebody out there, you would think. And that's somebody's job. Give me three, I don't need tape on all of them. That sucks.


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[Assistant] It was a disaster right now. Ain't got no running game.


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[Assistant] 82 kinda high. I was thinking the same thing. 82 kinda high.


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[Assistant] You're not a PFF. I'm gonna go under at 81.4.


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[Assistant] Say for instance, there's no time on the clock. You throw an interception.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing, they've never given a free touchdown away, ever. But that's never happened, has it?


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[Assistant] But he caught the football though. I know it's under. I know it's under, but he should be over. I know it's under.


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[Assistant] Like people would lose their homes, like they'd be like, you let her in, and then they would think that the NFL was rigged.


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[Assistant] I heard, I heard from one of his ex teammates, it was on the internet, I was looking. They say he was a rookie. He said, yo, he said, yo, rookie, wanna go work out? He said, yeah. He said, alright, meet me here at 11. Right? He said, bro, I got there at 11.


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[Assistant] Cause when I heard, I heard this, I immediately text Tyvis like, yo, you see this clip? Is that true? He said, oh, it's faxed.


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[Assistant] Your coach will be on you. You cannot do what he do. Alright.


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[Assistant] About football, like, my dad say this and I thought it was he was crazy for saying, he was like, hey look.


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[Assistant] The first few practices, you gotta establish that you do that.


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[Assistant] What if it's like the Super Bowl, right? And uh, two teams are playing, one team is up like, maybe four points.


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[Assistant] They throw the ball on the goal line and it's intercepted. The other team is running back. There's nobody in the way. They're going to win this game because it's going to be a pick six. If a coach


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[Assistant] leaves the sideline and tackles the guy. And the clock is expired at zero.


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[Assistant] What would DNFL do? Would they, would they give them the points? I don't know a case where they've ever given something, they've never awarded points based on what they thought would happen. What would happen in that case if there's no time they tackle them? What would they do?


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[Assistant] But that would just basically give that team the game, right? Like, we intercepted the football and they say, the clock is done, we call the penalty, we run the play again, right? So that basically, I guess it does get another team.


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[Assistant] You know Mary Kay, I look at the offensive line up front and uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't know man, maybe, maybe I'm thinking that they gotta run trick plays. They, they gotta, they gotta throw the ball. Maybe Joe Flacco's arm is the best way to win these football games. Uh, do you think as, as constituted, this offensive line is gonna be able to continue to run the ball or they're gonna turn into, we gonna let Joe lead us?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I was just going to go with CJ Stroud. It's like, you know, uhm, I don't know what their game plan would be. You know, uhm, let me ask you this question. Why does it seem like the Browns defense is different?


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[Assistant] I mean, they're, they're, they move scarily fast, uhm, when they're at home. What, what has been the difference between the way they played on the road and the way they played at home?


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[Assistant] It made it seem like she feels like, and I agree with her, I don't know, the Texans game is a rough one.


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[Assistant] I think, I think where the Bronzes playing at home, I don't know if this is irrational, I just don't think they can lose at home.


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[Assistant] I would never bet on brown skates. I would never bet on brown skates.


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[Assistant] Is it a way that they can utilize the portal to get there or do you think this is going to be a hindrance to teams like Maryland? Because even if you do get some guys that you recruited and they're good, they may be looking to go to like greener pastures. So how do you, you view the, the, the transfer portal?


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[Assistant] In terms of the injury Sean, you know, obviously yourself and a lot of other people.


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[Assistant] Uhm, right now you look at the rash of injuries that's been happening all over the league. And I think it's really hitting home now.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of guys are on it. What are, what are some of the things that, you know, you, you, those guys do behind the doors? Just be, just to get ready or to make yourself available, even though you're playing her.


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[Assistant] The lights out extreme fighting. Now you guys hit a milestone. You know, I'm into content. I'm into figuring out what the algorithm. You guys look like y'all didn't hit the algorithm. 90% viewership increased from the last event with FUBU Sports. What are you guys doing?


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[Assistant] To, you know, stand out in that market because that is a crowded sector. It's a very lucrative sector. What have you guys been doing behind the scenes to really put yourself on a map and to grow your business model?


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[Assistant] So by the time you get to these official joints, they slot you.


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[Assistant] Based upon where they, how they feel about you.


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[Assistant] And so he, he, all the big schools went to him first. Arizona State, Michigan, Notre Dame, he got all slotted first. And he ended up going to Arizona and they called me like at the end, cause you know back then you could decommit.


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[Assistant] What's his name? Uhm, the coach, he was a defensive line coach at the time. What's his name? Uhm, he lost a bunch of games and then he went to San Diego State.


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[Assistant] He was under Lloyd Carr. Uh, what is his name? Yeah, you know, I don't know nothing about that. Anyways, I'll probably remember. But anyway, uhm, basically they was like, they had called, and then I was just like...


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[Assistant] We don't wanna, we don't wanna take you from the coach because they left one. But I, I wouldn't have did it, I would have, I would have did it all the same way. Okay. Because. No regrets. I'm G. Bush now. Brady Hoke. Brady Hoke, that's his name. There you go, Steve.


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[Assistant] I'd just be ordering on Door Dash now. Oh, no, I don't know it. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] You're 100% right. I would also argue, I'm not sure about the Falcons, but in terms of Isaiah likely, he's been a free agent the whole season. You could have got him any week. Atlanta, the defenses come and go. You guys know that. Yea, yea, I cut a defense every week. But you're right, I'm sure he's been a waver. He has been because I've, I had considered it a couple of times.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, those things. You can't trust it. It depends. But, uh, and Mike and I are about, he's about 52-48 to win. So it's gonna be an interesting first round. Gotta love it. Gotta love it. It's that time of year. Yup, gotta.


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[Assistant] And then gets benched. That's what he's done. I mean, he's been a backup for a reason for four years. Does it mean it's impossible that he could play well the rest of the year? No, it doesn't mean that because as we've seen quite often this football season, a lot of bizarre things have happened. So it wouldn't stun me if, if Joe Flacco


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[Assistant] Last year in his first two games against the Ravens and the Browns, he was lights out. Six punch, uh, five.


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[Assistant] Five touchdowns, one turnover. He played, started two other games after that.


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[Assistant] He started two games after that. The next week against the Bengals. Yeaah. In that game against the Bengals. And remember, against the Browns, he threw four touchdowns. Yes. No picks.


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[Assistant] Against the Bengals the following week, he was 28 of 52, two touchdowns, uh, no touchdowns, two picks, three fumbles, two lost.


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[Assistant] Final game of the season against the Dolphins, 18 of 33, 149 yards, a fumble lost, no touchdowns.


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[Assistant] What's this, later in the season? You just drafted Zach Wilson in the first round. They had and they had basically


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[Assistant] Uh, his teams was bad. Joe, Joe has been up and down. He has not been a consistently good quarterback in a long time since they won the Super Bowl. That's a fact. He has not been.


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[Assistant] For the Browns to get as far as we'd like them to, in theory, he's gonna have to play well, or at least relatively well, for ten games. If you're thinking about the Browns going to the Super Bowl, that's ten games. Maybe nine if they ended up as the one seed, which is unlikely, but possible. Okay, but at least nine games if not ten.


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[Assistant] And Flacco has brought an energy to the team, a veteran energy. No doubt about it. And I'm gonna shock you. I'm gonna reiterate something Tyva said, which I rarely say. I'm gonna shock you guys.


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[Assistant] The last two weeks I've had no problem with a lot of throws because that's just the way the game has gone. Well, in particular last week.


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[Assistant] They are going to, over the rest of the season, have to run the ball more. No doubt about it. They've gotta be more effective running it because, let's face it, what was the game where Ford had the big game like 3-4 weeks ago against, uh,


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[Assistant] Indianapolis. Since that game, Fort, the running game has not been very good. Since that game. Before that it was pretty good. It was pretty good. But now it's been shaky and they haven't run the ball as much because it's been shaky.


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[Assistant] Well, I think his concern is, is, is at Joe Flacco's age, is he gonna take a hit that's just gonna mess with you? Well, hopefully not.


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[Assistant] Leroy, I got a trivia question for you. Who holds the Browns record?


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[Assistant] You're right. Not only that, isn't he number two, tied with a bunch of other guys? In fact, Braylon Edwards, when he had 16, is the only Browns player in the history of the franchise to have double digit receiving touchdowns. Isn't that crazy?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but you'd much rather play Florida State. Truth serum. I don't blame the committee, I blame the system. And now it's changing, which is good. Yeaah, the system is flawed.


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[Assistant] By the way, we got Breaking Bears Injuries news, actually not bad for the Browns. Their second best defensive lineman, Yannick Nganquay, who they got from the Ravens, I think, right? A couple years ago. He leads the team with, now Montez Sweat is their best guy they traded for him, but Nganquay leads the team with four sacks.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's been a good player for them. He's out for the year. It just came down today. I think he broke his ankle. Oh wow.


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[Assistant] Montez Sweat is really now their only good pass rusher, cause they, they and those two guys, they don't have much on the inside in terms of pass rush to Bears.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, we just talked about the Browns needing to run the ball more. However, the Bears...


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[Assistant] Are actually excellent against a run and not very good against a pass.


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[Assistant] One stopping team. Yes, they are. And they're like 20 something in passing.


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[Assistant] I don't totally discount yards per carry. I think that's a factor. Why has he been ineffective for you? Because he has way too many carries where he gets like one yard or less. And I think that's on him. Because Kareem Hunt, when he gets the ball, he gets his two, three yards.


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[Assistant] I know that, but Ford has like three or like four or five carries this year where he has huge gains. And he has way too many negative, and yesterday he said, well Barry Sanders had that. Yeah, but Barry Sanders had plenty of 10 and 15 and 20 yards. No I know, but I mean even Leroy had a lot of no gains.


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[Assistant] It's not college. Jay, in the game against the Colts, Jerome Ford had a bunch of five, six, seven, ten, four yard runs. Right. Where he was consistently running well.


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[Assistant] I, when I see Pierre Strong play, I could be totally wrong, but when I see Pierre Strong play, I see a little more juice. We've said all year, we'd like to see. Whatever reason they don't like that.


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[Assistant] But they're gonna need some of it, but probably not this week. This is probably the week where they're gonna throw a lot again.


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[Assistant] A play. Jay, that was my point that I forgot. Mike said it's not a reflection on him. They got good guys. But as you said, he's a third round pick. If he was showing them enough, they'd get him in the mix. You bet. You wouldn't have a healthy scratch every game if he was looking great.


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[Assistant] The only thing I'll say to Defendika, I guess, is once the season starts, you're not practicing with pads very often.


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[Assistant] So how much can a defensive tackle show in practice? That's a good thought.


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[Assistant] It's about the race, the marathon. That's what good teams do. I mean, once you get to the point where you have good talent.


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[Assistant] You hope not to use rookies, unless they're, unless they force their way in. You hope not to use them and give them a chance to learn in year one. And then, and then in year two, they're not as green as they would be when they play for the first time.


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[Assistant] Right. Go back and hire. And even, and even guys, you know, and listen, who would be a better expert on this than me? What are you eating to keep yourself in good shape? That matters. You know, I mean, if you're eating McDonald's all the time.


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[Assistant] Mike, before you list these guys, I know we're gonna get to it, but like, we spent a lot of time on de-tackle here. I am much more concerned about the Browns offensive tackles than I am defensive tackles. I don't know if you guys agree, but that's how I feel.


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[Assistant] You know, I loved baseball, and I played baseball, and even though I quit before my senior year, which I've talked about in his Biggest Regret in Life, but uhm,


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[Assistant] So I didn't go to high school in the 10th grade. I go to my high school in the 10th grade, we had a decent football program, we had one guy who played in Indiana, offensive line. I was joining the football team, I was in the first meeting, I was excited, I was like, I'm finally going to play football, be organized, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] Uh, and my mother really didn't want me to play. And she, she wore me down. And she's like, just stick with baseball. And I, and I was like,


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[Assistant] Alright. And I regret that too. I wish I would have played high school football.


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[Assistant] This surprises me because Gene loves veterans. I do. And I am shocked that you don't want him to call Sue.


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[Assistant] Because we've talked a lot about defensive tackle, but for me, offensive tackle is a way bigger issue. I'm not that worried about defensive tackle because I got plenty of good defensive linemen.


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[Assistant] I don't have a single good offensive tackle on this roster right now. You're down to offensive tackles four and five. I think at the very least we all agree James Hudson is not very good. If I'm the Browns, I have to look at that veteran market.


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[Assistant] And I have to believe there's some, if what's his name, I can't even think of his name now, can play at 41 years old. Jason Peters. Jason Peters. I know he's an all-time great, but you've got some guys that have been good in the NFL here. All these guys.


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[Assistant] I guess the only thing that gives me a little hope is that they waited at least, probably longer, but at least a week too long to sign Joe Flacco. Yes. And that has worked out. So maybe they're doing the same thing because maybe they're like, well, even if we signed Taylor Luan or Lyle Collins, he's not going to start this week.


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[Assistant] So maybe if, if, maybe they'll sign him tomorrow. I mean, they do have to add offensive line, but they've just lost two guys for the year. Yeah, but see if they push it to next Wednesday, then you can say, well, he's not going to start this week. Well, what I'm saying is maybe they'll sign him late. Maybe they're doing tryouts today. I don't know. I haven't heard anything.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Lyle Collins is 30. I don't know about the other guys. What was the last time they played?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he did not, and Collins, some of that's on Joe. Joe holds onto the ball a long time. Collins did not play well in the beginning of the season. He was bad. But as the year went along, he played better.


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[Assistant] Uh, and by the end of the year, he was playing decent football. Again, you're not getting anybody great at this point. What was his injury? I don't remember now.


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[Assistant] By the way, did you hear we got our guest? Not yet, but.


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[Assistant] And that would be your last two playoff wins against the Steelers and the Ravens. What if the Browns, what if the Browns played like, let's get really wacky. If the Browns played, I don't really want this to happen because this was torture for me. Kansas or Cincinnati. Yeah. What if they played the Bengals and the Ravens in the playoffs? Could happen. It could, it's possible, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I said to Mike before the show, I was like, Browns go to the Super Bowl, we gotta go to Vegas that week. We gotta do the show in Vegas.


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[Assistant] And then they crapped the bed in the playoffs, we all know what happened.


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[Assistant] For years, I'll say since the time I moved to Cleveland in 2011, for the last decade plus.


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[Assistant] The Cavs have often been fun to watch, and the Guardians have often been fun to watch. Right now, Cavs are miserable to watch and the Guardians are miserable to watch.


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[Assistant] But the Browns are fun as hell. Yes they are. Every Browns game is, I was talking with some guys that I do the podcast with and they're like, my God, every Browns game. I'm like watching the Browns is what it used to be like watching the Yankees and Red Sox. The games go on forever. There's a million runs. All the games take forever.


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[Assistant] The Browns have had, if the, for the 13 games, like, they've all been gone down to the end except for the Arizona win, the Ravens loss, and the Titans win. The other, and those were all a while ago, the other 10 games have all taken forever, they've been, you know. They're typically decided in our two-minute warning show. Yeaah. I mean, it's crazy. And right now, it's like,


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[Assistant] Oh, it's almost like a badge of honor that the Browns have all these injuries. Because it's like, it's almost like, oh, who cares? This guy's hurt, they can just keep playing well. I don't, you know.


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[Assistant] Because they were bad, they didn't have any exciting offensive players for so many years. We've talked about the ineptitude of pass catching.


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[Assistant] And they still don't have big time pass catchers outside of Cooper and Njoku has been solid, but they're fun. There's excitement in these games. Are you not entertained?


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[Assistant] I thought you were going to guess full, so I had to go with the opposite. Yeaah, no, I appreciate your strategy. There goes my winning streak. Down the tubes, Jay's the champion of the week. Yeaah. Game is rigged according to Kivus. I'm bummed, I'm bummed.


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[Assistant] Which is kinda crazy. What's crazy is that the NFL is the biggest sport in the world, like even though soccer, the NFL has generated the most money, I believe. I don't know that to be true. Alright.


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[Assistant] The first sign of respect you can show somebody is getting their name right. If you don't know you ask.


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[Assistant] That's right. Yeah, now that's, that's good advice. I agree. When I, when I was doing the very first sign of respect that you could show somebody is with a handshake and getting their name right. If you can't do that, I can't respect you.


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[Assistant] I said, I want you to know that I respect you, so I'ma make damn sure that I get your name right. Now for the record, Leroy,


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[Assistant] They, they, they do do a, a pretty good job of trying to establish the run. And if you establish the run, here's the deal. You can get away with play action with an average quarterback. Because it creates space. But if you stop the run, then that space shrinks. So the game starts off with stopping the run. If, if Trevor Lawrence plays,


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[Assistant] And one of the things that people don't realize is dude can move.


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[Assistant] For a guy as tall as he is, he got some, he got some good wheels on him. So the fact that you may not have to deal with that and you got a guy sitting in the pocket because he can't move.


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[Assistant] That's the other thing, but I really do believe that they're gonna make a conscious effort to establish the run. Uhm, they do have weapons outside. If you watch that game, man, uh, they were all over the place in that secondary.


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[Assistant] And that is what seemed to have plagued the Browns all years, the one or two big plays they give up in the secondary.


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[Assistant] How do you know that Jim Schwartz can't call the defenses he want to call because he ain't got Denzel either be able to lock somebody down or shut down one side of the field?


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[Assistant] Now you gotta play more of a zone because you don't want to expose anybody out there man to man. So let's start there. The other thing is you can get away with that zone if you get some pressure.


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[Assistant] And so the fact that nobody else was able to really make a play and put pressure on, on, on Stafford and just let him sit back and pick you apart.


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[Assistant] He is one of those dudes. He'll make his plays, but here's how he goes. Every team starts off the game, chipping, double teaming, chipping, three-liming, bumping him, Myles Garrett.


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[Assistant] And now you can't double-team Miles Garrett anymore, cause that pressure get you from the other side, and then Miles Garrett start making, causing havoc.


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[Assistant] Didn't take place for whatever reason. And, and I can't tell you exactly.


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[Assistant] What the reasons were, whether it was the defensive calls because they, you know, played a little more safe because they didn't want to give up, you know, expose anybody.


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[Assistant] Right. It's only possible if you're not getting pressure. I don't care how great your defense is. That's a lot of field to be covering for five seconds.


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[Assistant] And take our chances that way because there's nothing worse for me watching either my defense or another team's defense play a zone and get picked apart and don't make any adjustments because you're still getting beat. So who cares if, you know, you, you got, uh,


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[Assistant] Who's, who's Pikachu? Pi-uh, two-uh, what's his name?


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[Assistant] Now keep in mind he's a veteran, so he'll get rid of the ball a little bit quicker. So that's gonna hurt you too, but without pressure up front.


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[Assistant] Without any kind of sustained pressure.


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[Assistant] Why do y'all insist on defenses in general? It happens on a lot of teams. When I see a receiver being chased by a linebacker,


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[Assistant] He got, he got some run, he got some run last week. Uh, they kinda, what I like, what they did was, um, towards the end of the game, when they took all the starters out, they gave him about another five carries to let him get back into the flow of things. He had 25 fantasy points.


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[Assistant] He is. He really is. Here's what he is that a lot of people don't understand. And I, and I, and this is what I hate about how people view athletes and coaches or whatever. Right? Is that he is sincere.


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[Assistant] And if you have a problem with how kooky he is or how he says things or whatever, that's a you problem.


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[Assistant] If you have a problem with somebody and they're consistent with who they are, that's on you. You know who he sound like.


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[Assistant] He's like that, he's like that with everything. Now I will say this, if you ask him a question, he will try to answer not only your question,


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[Assistant] We were on our own two yard line. It was third and 37. They give me a draw.


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[Assistant] And I go for 53 yards and get the first down. Right?


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[Assistant] And there, there, it's his offense. You know, we, we've had a lot of injuries on the offensive line. We're not running the football particularly well right now.


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[Assistant] You coach everyone the same, but you know, like I said, everyone's personality comes out once they have the ball in their hand.


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[Assistant] And, you know, for a guy who's been on this roster for, for what, three or four weeks now, it's, it's, it's unbelievable that he's out there making those type of plays at that point in a game. You know, that, that was a game winning play.


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[Assistant] Uh, is to have a guy like Joe who, uh, who has the experience to know when to throw those balls and when not to. And, uh, he knows with the windows, he can fit a man. He's done this a million times and.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely I do. I think with Joe's just presence of walking out into that locker room with what he's accomplished in this league, guys automatically believe in him.


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[Assistant] You know, I think it's all on the quarterback, in my opinion. I think the quarterback can see what's out in front and the receiver is trusting you.


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[Assistant] That there's no one there going to take my head off. And the biggest thing for a quarterback is, you know, what I always try to do was, was never throw the football high across the middle because two things can happen. You're going to extend the receiver's arms up, which exposes his ribs.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I always try to keep it, you know, uh, chest or, or hip height where he had to go down to catch the football. So if he, if there was a collision.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, rotating a quarterback, you know, you have four different starters there. It's just, uh, it's a bad recipe for it to have a consistent running game with those kinds of things.


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[Assistant] Uh, what was a huge factor and, um, you know, it's a, they had the right pieces on defense and, and they're playing great ball over there and they're both coached and, uh, Schwartz has made a huge impact on that side of the ball, obviously.


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[Assistant] I think it's very important that Joe limits the turnovers this week on the road, because like I said, the defense hasn't been quite as good on the road. So he'll have to play a little more conservative, I think, and not, but I think the Browns find a way to win this game on the road.


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[Assistant] We've seen this one other time in the last, like, decade or so. I believe that when, uh, John Harburg had, remember the Ravens team, when Marcus Peters went down, they had,


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[Assistant] It's a mentality at that point, man, because at the end of the day, it's, you know that going into a game, Miles Garrett's gonna,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, they got a lot of great programming on that. We just moved into the top five or closer to the top five most watched, you know, in the history of the company on football. So.


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[Assistant] But you know what, one thing I'm happy about Flacco, because it's showing, look, it's some guys that need another opportunity, right?


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[Assistant] I'm a kinda, I'm a, I'm not a power hitter, but I'm a- You're a doubles guy? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, I looked. I looked. It was, uh.


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[Assistant] Kristap was getting out, getting, you know how he went 0-6 to start the game off? That ain't the case. You know, DG trying to do his thing, but right now it's not clicking right now.


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[Assistant] But, it's, it's a tale of four quarters. You know, you can't really just get off. They, they gotta get they win and figure out what they wanna do right now. I still think Jared Allen is probably the, just dump it down. You getting the one-on-ones, cause you surrounded with all shooters, so you getting one-on-one. He gotta be able to do something, like.


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[Assistant] But he's not consistent. And it's when you need him to do it the most, that's when he's not doing it. And that's the problem.


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[Assistant] Listen, I thought Darius does a great job of getting everybody involved. When Donovan gets the ball, it's a lot of standing around and looking. It kind of reminds me when Colin Sexton was here and he was the only guy. We would come up to court and everybody would just stand, go to a spot and stand there and just watch.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's crazy. They just brought bull a whole slew. No, we ordered it. I got them wings and some of them cheese curds over there that I'm gonna get to. As soon as I sat down, they bring the burgers.


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[Assistant] He was single-handedly mean. We could not stop him. He went to the holding, just kept whoop, whoop.


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[Assistant] If you ever witness somebody get knocked out, it'll make you really not want to fight no more.


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[Assistant] I wanna show you guys, cause yesterday was a smashing success. Good! I wanna show you the worst fail you've seen in a long time.


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[Assistant] Anthony's gonna get it on Tagboard in one sec. I sent it to him at 7 o'clock this morning. It's still not on Tagboard till right now.


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[Assistant] This is as bad of as you've ever seen, Anthony. How much longer? What happened? Okay, we got it. Are you ready? Steve, just play this full. No context needed. What the heck happened?


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[Assistant] I didn't hear anything against that. So yeah, I think so.


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[Assistant] The Caesars reps told us that they were, it was bigger draw than they expected.


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[Assistant] Chat to the 419s, Evan and his entire family.


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[Assistant] We're going to dive into some sports. If you did miss the show last night, it's on our YouTube page. We also interviewed Larry Nance senior and Ahmad Crump from the Cavs. So check it out. Really good interviews. Nice. Our first topic of the day today though, guys, is whether or not the Bears are a good football team. And our first topic, as always,


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[Assistant] Also the first pick from Carolina, but their own pick would be fifth and their one game out of the playoff race in the NFC. So when you look at that, the highs and the lows, do you think the Chicago Bears?


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[Assistant] Well, one player on Sunday in particular who we'll have to keep an eye on is Jalen Johnson, who's the focus of our next topic, which is brought to us by


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[Assistant] I mentioned Jalen Johnson. He's the Bears top cornerback. He's also the top rated cornerback in all of PFF, which is hard to believe. And he's 20 points higher according to PFF than Denzel Ward. And we all think Denzel Ward has been playing phenomenal when healthy this season.


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[Assistant] If it does come down to a Jalen Johnson versus Mari Cooper one-on-one situation, the Bears don't always shadow the number one receiver with Johnson. He kind of stays on half the field, but if it does come down to Cooper, who's one of the best route runners in football against a guy like Jalen Johnson, who do you guys give the edge to?


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[Assistant] We did that a couple weeks ago as one of the stats and he is significantly better at home. The Browns are back at home and we are home on WKYC today from 1230 to one for as Jay likes to say, I like to say,


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[Assistant] Well speaking of aging, Joe Flacco's arm has not seemed to age and the Browns rewarded him with a new contract for the rest of the season worth up to four point.


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[Assistant] Oh, five million dollars in incentives. I want to start with this question and we'll get to, they should have been a two year deal, which I know we're going to get to, but.


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[Assistant] Do you guys like how Andrew Barry and Flacco came to agreements on this incentive based deal? Which essentially, pays him for wins.


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[Assistant] On all the NFL action, Vandal, an official partner of the NFL. I sent you guys the list. There are 10 backup quarterbacks who are currently playing, plus Josh Dobbs.


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[Assistant] And we're going to go in reverse order from the guy you'd want least for the rest of the season. This is not for the Browns. This is for a generic team in the playoff hunt. We'll start at the team with the 10th and we'll go down to number one. Do you have them on a lift?


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[Assistant] Alright, so we could add 8 in O'Connell, so there's 11, which means one person will get left off.


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[Assistant] With that being said, the 11 quarterbacks up for debate. Aiden O'Connell, Easton Stick, Josh Dobbs, Bailey Zappi, Zach Wilson, Gardner Minshew, Mitch Trubisky, Will Levis, Tommy DeVito, Jake Browning, and Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] His stat line is almost identical to Joe Flacco's stat line against the Rams.


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[Assistant] Stick. So Trubisky at 10. Where we going for number 9, guys?


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[Assistant] No, he started the last couple weeks. Oh, he has? Yeah.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna put Levis at four, Browning at three. I think it's just for this year, just for this year, I would take Browning if it were going long term, I'd take Levis.


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[Assistant] This is a quarterback heavy stat pack. So let's start with this though. We're going to start with a little bit of the Browns defense. The sack numbers have gone down a tiny bit over the last few weeks for the Cleveland Browns, but partly because they played quarterbacks who got the ball out of their hands very, very quickly against LA. No sacks, two quarterback pressures.


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[Assistant] On the season, Stafford gets the ball out of his hands in 2.62 seconds. That's the eighth fastest time in the NFL. Against Jacksonville, Warrens.


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[Assistant] He gets the ball out faster. It's the fourth fastest time to throw in the entire league.


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[Assistant] He got sacked four times. They all came when he held the ball for longer than three seconds. Now why is that important?


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[Assistant] Justin Fields holds the ball longer than any quarterback in football. Partly because he's a scrambler. That's partly design, but it's 3.3 time to throw.


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[Assistant] That seconds from snap to the release is the dead last slowest in the NFL.


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[Assistant] He takes a ton of sacks because of that. And if you go back to 2021, the last time these two teams met.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett sacked Justin Fields four and a half times at arguably his best game of his career. So hold the ball at your own risk, Justin, because you got guys like Miles and Zedarius coming down your throat.


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[Assistant] And post Montez Sweat have been completely different units. And I got the numbers to show you side by side. They traded for Montez Sweat five weeks ago. Prior to acquiring Montez Sweat, the Bears had played eight games.


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[Assistant] They were 28th in the league in points per game allowed, 27.3. 23rd in yards per game allowed with 341.


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[Assistant] 10 sacks, that was dead last, they forced 9 turnovers, that was 22nd in football. Since acquiring Montez Sweat. 5 games.


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[Assistant] They're 9th in points per game allowed. They're 5th in yards per allowed. They're 22nd in sacks. They're 2nd in turnovers. It may be more importantly than anything for this game. Past yards per game allowed.


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[Assistant] Before the addition of Montez Sweat, they're allowing 363 pass yards per game. 30th in the NFL. Since getting Montez Sweat,


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[Assistant] All right. Next one. How about blitzers beware? This was kind of interesting. So last week against Jacksonville, Joe Flacco against the blitz. We mentioned this area was phenomenal. 75% completion. It was nine to 12 for 182 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, a one five, six point three passer rating. What's perfect. One five, eight point three. So literally two points underneath.


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[Assistant] Well how about this, Justin Fields against the Lions last week. Also 75%.


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[Assistant] Through for less yards, one touchdown, exact same quarterback rating, no turnovers. Now how does that play into this game?


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[Assistant] Chicago doesn't blitz a ton. 18th in the NFL, they blitz about 24% of the time. Every one in a four plays. Cleveland a little higher at 13%. We still not sure if Denzel Ward's a full go yet. They lost. Ogbo won't play. So we'll see if Jim Schwartz dials up some more blitz, but against the blitz last week, Flacco and Fields were at their best.


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[Assistant] There's also, I like that nugget because they were both 75% no turnovers in the exact same passer rate in the same week. So the fact they're playing was more, a little bit of a, uh.


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[Assistant] Hold on, you're gonna love this next one. You're gonna love this next one. This is a Flacco and Justin Fields homage here. We'll start with Flacco. You guys have heard some of these before, I'm just gonna reiterate.


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[Assistant] He's the first Brown's quarterback with three 30 plus yard touchdown passes and a half since Brian Sipe in 1980s. The first quarterback.


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[Assistant] for the Browns that throw since jacoby percent las It's the first 300 yard t the Browns in a win sinc and in two career starts has more 250 yard to touchd any of the Browns quarterb seasons. Justin Fields th


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[Assistant] Over his last 17 starts, 3000 passing yards, 25 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, 1,237 rushing yards and eight rushing touchdowns. Those are very impressive. How many fumbles? A lot. Well, how many? Uh, I just put a lot. Let me double check.


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[Assistant] Twenty five passing and eight rushing touchdowns. Thirty three. Thirty two, thirty three. And eleven interceptions and nine lost fumbles of twenty turnovers. I mean, for a guy who's...


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[Assistant] Alright, here's the last one. This one is my favorite and this one kinda goes back to the back of quarterback. If it's hurt, you may be screwed, you may not, we'll find out. But nine teams this season have eight wins or more. Of those nines, eight have only used one quarterback.


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[Assistant] The Cleveland Browns are the only team this season with 8 or more wins that has used multiple. The other teams with 8 or more wins. San Francisco with Purdy, Dallas with Dak, Philadelphia with Hertz, Detroit with


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[Assistant] All four of the Browns, they have not beaten Scrubs. Think about this. And there's more examples. Deshaun beat more than one team, but Deshaun beat Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Philip Walker beats San Francisco. DTR beat Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] Flacco beat Jacksonville. All four of their quarterbacks this season have beat a team that is above 500.


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[Assistant] The only bad team that hasn't used the back of quarterback, the commanders, Jacoby Percet. It's been Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got some super chats to wrap up. Hopefully you guys enjoyed those McNugget stats. This week we'll get them again. Next week, first super chat comes from Professor Chaos. Uh, guys, we'll go around the horn, answer real quick. It's a one word answer. Who's a better team right now? The Bears or the Jets?


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[Assistant] What was the last time an interim coach was hired as the full-time coach? I'm thinking of Antonio Pierce and a missed opportunity last year for Steve Wilkes.


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[Assistant] Flacco's a great backup and additional coach in the room.


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[Assistant] And Jaydog also said, Flacco, pay the man to your contract. He's a great backup with a wealth of knowledge in the quarterback room that by itself is worth it.


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[Assistant] Oh, we did a poll on should they give them a two year deal and most people said yes.


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[Assistant] We do a bunch of polls. We don't always read the results. What were the results on that? I don't remember the exact number, but it was high for yes to your deal.


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[Assistant] We're talking Buckeye football. Hey welcome to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Thank you so much for spending time with us on this Thursday. Bull is out. Yep. In his spot is Mikey McNuggets. Tivus in the hot chair in the middle once again.


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[Assistant] Whenever you want. Tell your friends, all the Browns friends you know. I continually hear from people every single week, I just found this sports show you guys are doing. We've been doing this nearly two years, year and a half.


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[Assistant] And there are still Browns fans that have no idea that we exist. So tell your friends that are Browns fans, uh, and share the wealth.


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[Assistant] Big show today. Uh, Aditi's here. Yep. We always love it when Aditi's here. She's gonna bring a lot of common sense to the panel that sometimes we lack.


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[Assistant] Well, actually often that we laugh. She seems to be our voice of reason on UCSS. Also, we're going to talk specific matchups about the Jacksonville Browns game on Sunday. And also, I think there's a lot of gamesmanship going on on both sidelines.


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[Assistant] Doug Peterson is doing the same thing that Kevin Stefanski is doing. I don't blame either one of them. Why would you announce your starter when you don't have to? And you don't have to.


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[Assistant] And so right now both teams are sort of in that limbo spot.


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[Assistant] I think an educated guest tells you who's gonna start. We'll talk more about that throughout the two hours. But first, uh, Anthony Cantisbelli is in the business today as the producer. Do you get nerfed up when you slide over to that chair? Is it different for you in any way? No, honestly.


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[Assistant] He picks four locks and then he mixes and matches the six that are in his mind the long shots on the ticket. So he mixes and matches a lot to cover his bat and also


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is. It's really funny. And people are developing their own strategies. Some of them are better than others. Some of them are a lot more risky than others, but the reward is certainly there if you can hit on those.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, we talked about the gamesmanship going on with the head coaches and this is nothing new. Obviously it's been going on in the NFL for years. DTR is in protocol.


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[Assistant] Yes, and that's true, but that's not so he can play. This is to get out of protocol. All of the end, the end game here is how they gotta play. It's the same thing in Jacksonville. When you look at what Doug Peterson is dealing with, have you ever had a high ankle sprain?


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[Assistant] If this were a ticket on our FanDuel app, and it's a two-leg parlay, I'm gonna bet the house that our starters for Sunday


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[Assistant] Our Flacco and Beathard. And I can't come up with a logical reason why either team would go in the other direction. Can you guys? I could not.


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[Assistant] He's gonna bring it, he's their Miles Garrett. Uhm, I, I do think that, I know you're playing Devil's Advocate and it's just for the conversation, but,


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[Assistant] If Kevin Stefanski stands in front of the media and tries to sell that to the media, it's, they're not gonna buy it. The fans aren't gonna buy it. In my view,


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[Assistant] This is, and you mentioned, it's interesting, you mentioned that this game is more important to the Browns, and I do agree with you, but consider this, if the Browns win,


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[Assistant] Outside of Jacksonville winning their division, which four weeks ago seemed like a slam dunk. It's no longer a slam dunk. If the Browns win this game, that leaves the Browns and the Jags tied.


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[Assistant] For the wild card. If someone were to pass Jacksonville, also it would give the Browns a big leg up.


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[Assistant] Because of the head to head. So although it is bigger for the Browns, I think it's marginally bigger for the Browns.


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[Assistant] I mean this isn't, I don't, I still don't think it's worth rolling your starting quarterback with a high ankle sprain out there. Right. Let Lawrence get well.


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[Assistant] You do have the luxury of having at least a game at hand on the competition, but suddenly if Indianapolis and Tennessee are to pick up wins this weekend and Jacksonville loses and you look at the standings and it's a three way tie.


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[Assistant] You've got four games to play. Nothing is assured for Jacksonville, if that's the case, particularly because you don't know how long this is going to leave Lawrence on the sidelines. It could be two weeks, it could be four weeks, it could be six weeks.


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[Assistant] Tampa's gonna be fighting for the division lead for their, for their division title. It's an important game for them. And Tennessee, I just. Always frisky. They are. You know, I know we looked at Houston's schedule and they still have two left with the Titans. You know what variable does down there. Variables guys aren't gonna quit.


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[Assistant] Passes with Chris. They changed it. Exactly. In his skill set. Exactly. And he did a terrific job, I thought. And I think. He's playing to his strengths.


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[Assistant] You say that, you mean he's more managing it, trying to, you know, maybe we can get by with 14 points and the defense rolls aces.


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[Assistant] I like what Casey Keeler, his college coach, told us yesterday on the show, is that he


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[Assistant] The one thing, he kept calling him unique, unique, unique, and I said, what are the characteristics? And he goes, very quickly answered this. He's not afraid to fail.


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[Assistant] And I think, you know, Brett Favre always used to say, you gotta have a short memory. You can't remember the pick you just threw trying to squeeze one in between an impossible window. And I do think Joe Flacco, I wouldn't call him a gunslinger so much, but if you look at his career, the one thing that


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[Assistant] I think it's been a common, even going back to Pittsburgh when he transferred to Delaware, he has believed in himself in the micro, in game situations, and then in the macro, one of the


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[Assistant] Biggest onion moves in the history of onion moves for players was what Joe Flacco did going into the final year of his contract in Baltimore when he had a pretty sizable offer on the table. Said, no, you know what? I'm going to play this out. I'm going to, I'm going to go into the last year of my contract, which is rarely done. And he bet on himself and they won a Super Bowl and he was the MVP.


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[Assistant] This was without, I don't think without any question. You can say one of them. I think one of them. Sorry.


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[Assistant] Exactly, but it's putting it in that upper echelon of quarterback performances. You asked the question, are we getting out of ourselves?


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[Assistant] Either as a media or fan base or the coaches. I don't think we are and I'll tell you, I almost think that the biggest detriment to this team is about to become one of our biggest advantages. Follow me.


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[Assistant] The good thing about it moving forward for this football team is...


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[Assistant] They're used to nothing else but change. Yeah. And so that's why I say what's been their detriment in this quarterback revolving door


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[Assistant] No one's ready to do that. We're doing that on a week by week basis. So let's put Joe out there. Let's see what he looks like. If he can duplicate or even improve upon what he did last week.


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[Assistant] Then it's easier for fans to start thinking, yeah, he's our guy. We've seen it twice.


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[Assistant] Let's roll with Joe. I guess a pretty good defense. Yes, what would be a good defense, but here's the thing. If Joe turns into week 3, 2022 Joe, and he starts to precipitously decline in front of our very eyes. Go back to DTO. Then you say, it's okay, we'll go to the bullpen again.


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[Assistant] And we'll bring DTR back, and this team, if nothing else, is used to changing on the fly.


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[Assistant] Just a slight touch difference. It probably is frustrating, but Ty, look at this.


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[Assistant] I just think that the DTR thing makes sense because of the protocol. Had he not been concussed. He probably been out there. I kinda think that...


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[Assistant] And what they knew on Monday was they didn't know what DTR's availability was going to be. So I think they installed the game plan for Joe. They're going to move forward. It's going to be Joe for this week.


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[Assistant] After this week when DTR is healthy and the coaching staff won't be able to tell the media DTR wasn't available so this was an easy decision. Next week there's going to be a decision to be made. Do you think that one of the other gives the Browns a better chance all things equal moving forward?


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[Assistant] What? So you're going to sell to your fan base. We missed the playoffs, but I want to give you a silver lining, guys. Our backup quarterback is going to be ready next year. This Sunday tells a lie.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but Ty, you, you are within reach of a playoff position. You're currently sitting in a playoff position.


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[Assistant] Everybody wants to get in the playoffs, you have a chance. That's true. I can guarantee you this. That's true. The winner of this year's Super Bowl is guaranteed to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And you know what they did? They gave us three and a half hours of the most exciting football of the season.


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[Assistant] That's what I like to call the postpartum. Like, that's when you go back and you dissect the season. In 2020, it was pretty clear. Baker trying to play through the shoulder. That's where the season came unglued. If we do, when we do the autopsy on this season, if it ends without them going to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] There's going to be 15 circles on the schedule. Well, here when Deshaun first got hurt, here when he really got out, here when they thought DTR was going to be the backup and ended up being the starter, here. So there's all these moments, but here's the beauty of where we are right now.


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[Assistant] And when you look at the playoff picture, we're going to the playoffs. Yeah. I would, I hope so. So, so that's like, you're running the 100 and at the 70 yard mark, meter mark.


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[Assistant] If they go seven and six, are you, is that it for you? Do you think that-


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[Assistant] If Flacco is Joe Flacco from last year.


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[Assistant] A couple of picks, maybe a touchdown. A lot of sacks. Do you, do you then say, okay, it's DTR time again and go back to DTR? Yes. Alright, I do too.


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[Assistant] I don't think there's really any discussion about that. But if he plays, I don't think he gonna drop off. If he plays as well as he did last week, he's got the job for another week. I agree with that. I agree with that. Alright, you gotta read, right Ant?


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[Assistant] If a situation arises, it's all about Jace Medical.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, you touched on it earlier. This is gonna be an interesting matchup, as last week was, on the defensive lines. Obviously, the Rams, with an all-time great.


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[Assistant] And Aaron Donald and the Browns with a really dinged up and highly ineffective Miles Garrett didn't really turn into the showdown that we thought it would be. And obviously these guys are never on the field.


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[Assistant] At the same time, but you're comparing production. You're looking at what Miles Garrett's gonna do. And then you're also gonna compare it to what Josh Allen is doing. Uhm, who do you guys have more confidence?


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[Assistant] I think you said yesterday, if you start a game and you're double teaming somebody,


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[Assistant] And he's beating you every play, you start sliding a third player over. That never happened. In fact, there were times where he wasn't double-teamed.


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[Assistant] And that, nobody else on our defensive line stood up.


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[Assistant] And that, that I think was the difference in the football game. Stafford wasn't even dirty at the end.


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[Assistant] Giving an educated guess on where you think he's going to be. That's what I did when I started thinking about what he's going to be able to give the Brown Sunday. I'll let you go first.


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[Assistant] You can either talk to how healthy you think he's going to be based on where he was Sunday.


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[Assistant] Or just go for it and say, based on where he was in LA.


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[Assistant] His best football, the best football of his career.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, hey, that would be great. That's a good point. I hope my answer to it, and it's just based on the information I currently have. He's hurt.


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[Assistant] He can tell us he's not hurt. All he wants to tell us he's not hurt. We all remember the image of him from two weeks ago when he couldn't lift his left arm.


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[Assistant] We also remember that Mary Kay told us that he had to have assistants putting his shirt on. We've all had injuries like that. They do get better in time, typically not in two weeks. Now I know he did look better in terms of the things he was able to do with his arm last Sunday, but he didn't look like Miles Garrett. And if you study the box score, he was invisible. He didn't make the trip to Los Angeles.


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[Assistant] So, I have to, I have to weigh that into the equation. And we're comparing him to a guy who is already an elite player.


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[Assistant] Who, oh by the way, happens to be playing at the best level of his entire career. I think Miles was, for the year, playing at his best level, but I hope I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] And I hope we see a burst from him and a play early in the game to let us at least relax and knowing that, oh, he has it in the tank this week, unlike last week. But if I have to bet money.


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[Assistant] He was bad immediately after the car accident. We sat here and said he probably shouldn't be playing. I felt after watching him last Sunday, he probably shouldn't be playing. I think for, he is one of the few players


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[Assistant] When you ask players that are in the running for the MVP, they almost never talk about it. They always deflect to team goals.


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[Assistant] Always every day, but I kinda like the fact that he is openly and in the public putting pressure on himself to be the best player in the league. I think he's one of the few players that can do that. I just think it's different that he does that. So I think for him to sit out on Sunday,


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[Assistant] But, because I think that might give me the better chance of winning the Defensive Player of the Year than if I take myself out of the mix. And honestly, I think that's the wrong call. I think you can be hurting your team in doing that. Put a player in there that's 100% healthy,


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[Assistant] You can rest and get healthy yourself and then come back in the Jacksonville game and wreak havoc. You can still win the DPOY if you do.


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[Assistant] Okay, good, I hope so. That would mean that you would be right in your argument and we would be wrong and there's nothing I would like more than to be wrong.


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[Assistant] Have him go out there and dominate the game on Sunday. Alright, uh, Anthony, what do we have?


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[Assistant] Alright, great. Uh, it looks like that picture was taken before G. Bush had his sore throat. Yes. He was smiling like a kid at the bank getting a lollipop.


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[Assistant] You know what though, never underestimate the New England Patriots because Bill Belichick is still their coach. Look at that picture of him.


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[Assistant] Yes, it is ac- you were in a monsoon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know you dominate your space when your competitor also has to use


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[Assistant] Well, you were a pros pro as always. Aditi, we've been talking about the quarterbacks and the gamesmanship that's sort of going on between the two head coaches and not being specific with what we think we know they're going to do.


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[Assistant] Maybe, but that high ankle sprain, it's, you know, we saw it with Mahomes, but it was a playoff game, and considering that they've got a game at hand,


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[Assistant] On the Colts in the division and the Texans, they do have a little bit of wiggle room and buffer space there that they


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[Assistant] In a vacuum, let's say DTR was not concussed, and this was a real decision.


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[Assistant] Did Joe Flacco do enough on Sunday to definitively say


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[Assistant] And the quarterback clearly has a comfort level throwing it in his direction. Right. It doesn't mean that in his absence, someone isn't going to become the Amari Cooper on that day. And on the positive side for you and for Tyvis, if we can throw that graphic up, that Elijah Moore graphic one more time, you call for that 100 yard game. Should he put together


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[Assistant] This graphic proves to us that he would be a thousand yard receiver because he currently sits at five oh one for the first 12 games. So I'm saying there's a chance.


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[Assistant] And when you have an offensive mind like the Rams do and McVeigh and


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[Assistant] Last week was Peyton and Denver too. That's exactly right. Sean Peyton. You know how to pick at that. Find number zero and that's where you're going. And they did it and they exposed him.


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[Assistant] If you're way over your run total or way over your pass total, you can have that conversation with your quarterback and say, look, you're checking out far too much. You can do that at any point during the game.


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[Assistant] I think what Ty is alluding to is the last two games I'm gonna be off a digit or two here.


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[Assistant] But the run-pass ratio was almost 2 to 1. It was, it's about 66% for the two games combined.


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[Assistant] And I'm wondering if we're gonna see a dramatic shift the other way now because it's been so obvious the last two weeks, two losses in what were close and winnable games in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think we couldn't ask you that for a lot of reasons, but one of them is we don't know and we've been around this team for years.


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[Assistant] What role does Paul DiPodesta play in the micro game planning from California all week as Chief Strategy Officer? Uhm, I can only tell you in talking to people that have been with this organization,


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[Assistant] In the past, that his voice and influence is incredibly strong. And I just, I hope one day we actually find out.


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[Assistant] You're right, you're right. And in fact, it's conjecture on my part, with the exception of talking to a few people that have been with this organization


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[Assistant] Uh, I didn't intend to go there and, uh, on the D-Podesta point, but you've been with


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[Assistant] Different organizations and now obviously in one of them


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[Assistant] Uh, in Seattle, Pete Carroll is an established guy with Cache, and he likely has the loudest voice in the entire organization, as he does in New England, and as other guys do in their places. But, you were here a minute. Split. Yea, a minute. Uhm, did you get a sense of the hierarchy? Or no? Players are immune to that.


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[Assistant] It's always Mr. Craft. And not because they think that that's what he wants to be called. All of them that I've talked to about it say, well no, he deserves that.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I, I worked with them for a minute the year they lost to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They did a playoff network that I was hosting for them. And I got to meet Mr. Kraft. I got to spend time with the organization. And I saw firsthand, okay, I want that owner to be around.


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[Assistant] You know, fly charter. He has a Patriots plane and it's equipped to carry a football team. Must be nice. And you know, look, they all have the money to do that if they wanted to.


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[Assistant] The, the Patriot way. So I learned in my first week, the lawyer that I negotiated my contract with, when she was kind of taking me through the building and giving me all the introductions, she, she kept saying, Patriot way, Patriot way. This is the Patriot way.


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[Assistant] But, Jerry lets his opinion and idea become policy at very high levels within the organization. That's why they haven't been successful.


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[Assistant] And I know he had success early on, but it was with, the parts were already there. And he fired the people that were most responsible for that success, and he hasn't sniffed it since.


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[Assistant] I'll wrap it up by saying this. In my experience, and I'll ask you if you echo this, a less involved owner


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[Assistant] Increases the chances of a team being successful right or wrong.


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[Assistant] That's, I mean that's, I don't know from personal experience that just the guys that I've talked to have always said they don't want to see their owner in the locker room after the game. It drives, did that drive you nuts?


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[Assistant] Because I had players flat tell me, the owner and his family do not belong in the, now they have the right to be there, they own the team. But the players never like to see them there.


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[Assistant] But I do like, I enjoy talking to players about what they saw, what they appreciated, and what they feel was the best style. Yeaah. Because everybody has a different style.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, we want to do a read first before we switch to calves or no?


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[Assistant] Fuck the bitch. Yes. Cause he follows this way more closely than either of us. Cause he has friends I think that probably have jobs in the G League. I'm guessing. I do, I do. Couple GMs. So here's what I want to know from you. Because I honestly, I don't know. Uh, I have a guess.


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[Assistant] How often is G League production


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[Assistant] I've watched a little bit of it, not this year, but I've watched a little bit of it in the past and I'm like, man, this looks like my pick up games.


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[Assistant] So how much of that is transferable to the NBA? Like, if he were to take the same number of threes in the NBA, what are his numbers this year in the NBA?


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[Assistant] And I even pay attention to minor league baseball and I spent a little bit of time in the minor leagues and this is probably the same thing that's going on in the G League. It's each man for himself.


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[Assistant] I've seen teams five games to go, they need two wins to clinch a playoff spot and they're like,


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[Assistant] But for the most part, it's every man fighting for whatever crumb he can find and it's hard to get a team to buy into a team concept because at that level, it's 25 different individuals that have the same goal. Get to the bigs.


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[Assistant] But Bernie, I have that same shirt and oddly enough I was going to wear it today. And I didn't.


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[Assistant] I understand why it's not, but it's disappointing to me that a guy who's been with the team for 10 minutes is stepping up and giving a rally speech after a practice in a particularly bad game, that that needs to come from


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[Assistant] Are they getting the games out of the way now so he can be a factor at the end when it counts?


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[Assistant] And there are, and those voids sometimes seem like the stretches are going on for far too long. And you're watching and you're saying, this in no way, shape or form.


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[Assistant] I don't care what the individual talents are. You know in basketball and in every sport that's a team sport, it's the sum of the parts and these parts right now don't


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[Assistant] click. They don't match. And I think, I do think you're onto something. I think that's it. Cause as I'm watching the games, I'm noticing the same thing and I'm saying, okay, who's it going to come from? Who is that guy?


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[Assistant] If not your main starters and that's in the playoff games when those rotations shrink.


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[Assistant] And your matchups become so much more important, you can't lose them. And against the, against the Knicks, they didn't have a, I mean, I, I can't think of outside of maybe the starting rotation for a minute where they had an advantage once you got into the game and rotations were underway.


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[Assistant] No, he's thin. And I hope that's another thing that we see from him year to year. I hope that physically there's some change to his body. Jared Allen has, there's been a little bit of physical change. I would, I still want more. But with him, he looks like Mr. Salty on the pretzel box, man. He is thin.


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[Assistant] Alright, good. Alright, let's get Bernie in here, but before we do that, we need to read, right?


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[Assistant] Look who's here! Show the fans the shirt because I've got the same shirt, I love it. It's an old retro Tecmo bowl with Bernie and the arms in the air. First of all, the graphics on the old Tecmo bowl are just completely great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, pretty cool. Uh, gotta start with Joe Flacco. Uh, grade him on last week and regardless of the DTR protocol, should he be the starter for at least this game?


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[Assistant] Is it because they don't have the timing yet with the receipt? It was stunning to me that he made that throw and they probably ran it.


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[Assistant] A couple dozen times in all of their practice sessions combined. That's something that takes years of the same quarterback and wide receiver to develop.


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[Assistant] And he was throwing in high wind conditions, he grew up in it, and he dominated it, and the Ravens said, this is perfect for games in Pittsburgh and Cleveland. We're taking this guy because he can cut the wind.


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[Assistant] Slacko took a shot, and he's got the uncle to do it.


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[Assistant] His college coach told us yesterday, he kept reporting to him as unique, unique, unique. I said, why? And he quickly answered, he's not afraid to fail. He's not afraid to fail, but.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna be devil's advocate, and I know that he took a, he had a shot, he took a shot, it was an eight point game. However,


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[Assistant] What, what I was, what I was looking for in that moment was you need a long, sustained drive.


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[Assistant] It was a one point game. The next drive it was eight points. On that drive there was six and a half minutes on the clock.


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[Assistant] 75 yard, 7 minute sustained drive that went for a touchdown.


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[Assistant] When we came up with the three and out, I said, okay, this is playing out perfectly for the Browns. What they need now is a time consuming,


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[Assistant] Alright, when you look at Jacksonville, obviously the quarterback game is going on with both head coaches. It's unlikely that you're going to play six days later on a high ankle sprain. And it's also unlikely that DTR is going to, you know, fly out of protocol with a cape and start. It's, uh, conventional wisdom tells us that it's going to be Beathard against Flacco.


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[Assistant] How, how, what's the biggest concern that you have from this Jacksonville team knowing that it's likely not going to be Trevor Lawrence and also Kirk is out for the season so that they're also down their top wide receiver. What, how does that look to you?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. He's done a marvelous job this year. He really has. Uh, you wanna do the Super Chats now?


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[Assistant] Yeah. And look, I hope to God they proved me wrong. I hope to God there's three years left for Watson and two years left for Mitchell. If Cleveland's lucky.


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[Assistant] Well, like, just give me the more years. Watson's got three years to get it done. So I like that. I think two.


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[Assistant] You know, I kinda said this earlier, uhm, we was on behind the glass, not behind the glass, the post game show. And uhm, you know, I said, you know, we're very critical.


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[Assistant] of Kevin Stefanski when he calls plays or when he doesn't run what he want to. And I think, you know, for a certain, to a certain point.


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[Assistant] I believe the defense is living off, like, living off the past. I think the defense is living off the memory of the first four or five games that they played. And, you know, I made the analogy, like, when you, you know, everybody in this country is about two weeks away from being homeless.


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[Assistant] Four weeks if you got a good job, and in about two years if you Jay Crawford. Uhm, but, but, but let you, let you.


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[Assistant] Right. A lot more than you think. You lose your job today, that check don't come in two weeks. You gotta use that for food, whatever the case may be. People are like, what does that mean? Well look.


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[Assistant] The Browns have been, they did a great job and got the job done.


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[Assistant] That was when it was hot outside. It's cold outside. The leaves are gone and it's December. Christmas is here.


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[Assistant] So you can't keep cashing and living off of what you did before. You gotta go get some more money. You gotta go get another job and put some money in the bank. And right now the Browns have not done that. You look at the defense and, and I think


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[Assistant] We've all been a little, we've been all too excited.


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[Assistant] To put our defense and put it on one or two people. Oh, Denzel's out or Myles Garrett is injured. If Myles is playing, if he could just put his jersey on, that'll be enough for us to win games. And I look at names and it's okay to say people's names. I didn't like the game plan from Jim Schwartz yesterday.


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[Assistant] That don't mean I don't like Jim Schwartz and what he's done overall, but I can say his name. You can say it. Jim Schwartz. Altogether. I didn't like the plan. Guys like Zedaria Smith. You're welcome to make plays. You're welcome to step up.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, Greg Newsome, you're, you're welcome. All you guys. And Juan Thornhill. We need guys to step up and make plays.