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[Assistant] He lives in Cleveland. Unquestionably blue. But he also understands that the majority of Ohioans are red state.


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[Assistant] Just be, just having voters in the city limits of Cincinnati or Columbus or, or Cleveland ain't gonna get it done.


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[Assistant] You have to, you have to, you have to get some people that are swing voters, you have to go into these red counties and have a game plan and have a track record. So they're going to look at you and say, well listen, we're traditionally conservative in this state. Now, you gave how much to a billionaire leaders?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it won't be a good look. How, how much did you give to the billionaire owner when, when you could have used that on something else? That's not gonna play well for conservatives. It's not gonna play well.


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[Assistant] If you're Mayor Bibb, what I'm doing is I'm taking all that money we was negotiating on that was earmarked for the stadium.


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[Assistant] Tough sell. It's a very tough sell. He's in a tough spot. Because if he's, as Jay said, if he's looking for further aspirations to move up, his constituency is not the ones that are going to put him in that office.


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[Assistant] I'm great, great, just glad the, uh, season is off and running and, uh,


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[Assistant] I think that that's something that you probably need to like, we need to take a deep breath and push ourselves away from the standings and just be like, it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would not be overly concerned. You know, I talked to him in spring training, he felt good. I think the, you know, the bigger thing is gonna be watching, let's say like three or four starts in the year.


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[Assistant] To see where the velocity is. I mean, for the most part, it has a tendency to climb over the course of


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[Assistant] Uhm, over a season, over the first part of the season. Uhm, so I'm not really that worried about that. And, you know, like, listen, guys are gonna have, some guys aren't gonna have good starts right out of the gate, right? So I can see that being the case with McKenzie, who undoubtedly was chomping at the bit to get back out there and...


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[Assistant] Then I do think it's fair to start being concerned about it because of his injury history, and really, quite frankly, because


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[Assistant] The Guardians are pretty thin rotation-wise behind the guys that they have out there now, with the exception of Gavin Williams, who should be coming back soon. Uhm, that's where I start to get concerned, because we have lauded the Guardians for their pitching depth for a long time.


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[Assistant] And right now they're not in a position where they have a lot of arms that are close to be able to help. At least it doesn't appear to be on paper. So that's kind of where my concern would be overall with them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had said at the outset, I wasn't as concerned about the Guardians pitching depth because they've been so good at developing pitching. Right. And sometimes it's just like, you know, you feel like you've got a good feel for a team and then you like see their lineup on opening day and you're like, ooh, that doesn't...


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[Assistant] That doesn't look right, you know what I mean? And so, when you start to hear the depth names you went, wait a sec.


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[Assistant] This is not what we've seen in the past. There's not Gavin Williams or Tanner Bybee ready to take the next step. You know, like the unfortunate injuries that, that Espino has had.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's a real special arm, like you'd just love to see him be healthy. But that's a guy that would have been in that next wave, and that next wave just isn't quite ready yet. And so it feels like they're going to have to count on these guys to give them...


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[Assistant] Out of their top five guys, which is really difficult to do. It happens. It's not impossible. But, you know, Bieber has missed time with injuries. Mackenzie has missed time with injuries.


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[Assistant] They're, they're not guys that have a long track record of posting for 32 starts and 190 innings. And that's, I think, where some of the concern comes. Even though there's, there's plenty of talent on the rotation, like when they have those five guys out there, they should be really good.


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[Assistant] It's the weakest division in baseball still. I agree that the bottom of the division is better. I know the White Sox are, what, 0-4 now, but.


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[Assistant] I think they've already shown that their pitching is more competitive and they're going to be a far better defensive team than they were a year ago. I don't know how many runs they're going to score.


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[Assistant] They've battled a ton of injuries with him. They're thin, uh, but their floor should be higher than what it was last season. And I agree with that with Kansas City. I think Kansas City is a much better team than they were last year, but I don't know that they're a team that would contend in, in most spots.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Detroit really didn't address their offense this winter, and I think that's a big issue for them, as major league ready as all those starters were.


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[Assistant] I'm a big Reese Olsen guy, I was excited to see him pitch well last night, I think he's got a chance to be pretty good. Uhm, and I think the Twins are a pretty solid team overall, although the injury bug has already bitten them, and they're gonna be without Royce Lewis, who is, I think in a lot of ways,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think it's a flawed division and I think because of that Cleveland can sit there in the mix, but, you know.


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[Assistant] There's concerns, I think in the rotation depth. I think there's concerns in the bullpen depth.


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[Assistant] This Trevor Stevan the injury is a pretty significant one for the guardians. That guy has been really good. And that's a, that's not a guy that you really feel like you can afford to lose.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so they're gonna have to find a way to fill that, and, you know, the offensive issues are no different than they have been, you know? Like, their best bet to having a better offensive team is, you know, one, is Andres Jimenez bounce back, and two, Bo Naylor taking the next step forward.


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[Assistant] But it still leaves them short in the outfield. I mean, it's one of the most incredible stats in baseball that the last time they had an outfielder hit 20 home runs in a season was Michael Brantley a decade ago.


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[Assistant] And they don't really have those guys. I mean, Floriel has the power, but I don't know if he's gonna make enough consistent contact to do it. And they're, you know, playing a lot of Tyler Freeman in center, which, hey, great for him, like, he won that job, and like, I like Will Brennan too, like, I think he can hit a little bit, but there's not enough impact in my mind in their lineup, and so,


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[Assistant] With the lineup that they put out two years ago when they did win the division. It's a lot of the same names, they're gonna need some of that power to bounce back from a guy like Jimenez, and then they're gonna need to find some other


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[Assistant] I think it's, like, we're past the window of extension because I think of Bieber pitches as well as he.


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[Assistant] As he can, if he stays healthy the full season, if the velocity holds that he's added, which has been a big reason, I think, why he's in this position. I mean, even he brought it up unprovoked in spring training this year that the velocity being better was something that he was excited about.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think he's gonna be lined up for a payday that the guardians aren't going to commit to a starting pitcher. And so I don't think that that's the most likely scenario. The most likely scenario, and unfortunately it's been wash, rinse, repeat in a lot of ways with this, is


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[Assistant] Beiber's been the subject of trade discussions for a couple of years. The Guardian should have a pretty good idea of where the market sits for him or teams that could be interested. If he pitches the peak of performance, they probably have an idea of what the best package they can get is, and they move him at the deadline.


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[Assistant] And there's even a chance that they do that if they're in contention, because uhm, they are, like, for all of the flaws, and there certainly are flaws, one thing you can say about this front office is that they have not


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[Assistant] Willingly punted a season. And they want to be able to be in a position where the team is competitive year in and year out.


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[Assistant] And I do think that's an admirable quality, because I don't think every organization has done that. But, I'm, I'm really curious to see how that plays out, because, I mean, there is a case to be made to just say, hey, listen, if we're in the mix, we hold onto Bieber regardless, we'll take the draft pick at the end of the year, and, and it gives us the best chance to win now.


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[Assistant] I think they're always trying to look two or three years down the road. Like you're planning for the present and the future constantly. In Cleveland, which is a smart way to go about it, it's just with the resources that they have, there's not gonna be.


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[Assistant] A position player, you know, like what you had with Jose Ramirez or what you had with Andres Jimenez than I think you are to get a pitcher, unless they do it when they're in their pre-arbitration.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it, I think it's a, I think you're right. And I think the reason is that they don't have, the frontal office is not given the resources to run a payroll that's high enough to take risks on starting pitchers. And pitching is the most risky commodity in baseball, right? It's the most valuable in a lot of ways, right? Because you need to have good pitching in order to win.


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[Assistant] By risk of throwing hard, you're at greater risk for injury, whether it's Tommy John or a flexor tendon or shoulder issue or any number of different things. I mean, heck, even like the guys that you mentioned there, they talked about extensives with you, right? They backed off the McKenzie one because he was hurt.


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[Assistant] Bieber had injuries, right? Like it, it's, like a Bieber extension may not look, especially coming off the year he had last year, may not look very good right now. I think it's much safer


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[Assistant] To extend position players than it is pitchers as much as you may love.


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[Assistant] quality pitching at the front of a rotation, but like, this goes back years, right? They didn't do it with sabathia.


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[Assistant] They traded to Lee, Cliff Lee, like it's, as those guys got close to free agency, they replenish their farm system by moving them. But the other thing that they have done for the most part has been competitive as a result of it. And so the strategy has largely worked even though.


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[Assistant] I can only imagine how frustrating it is for Guardians fans because it's like, don't get attached to anybody.


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[Assistant] Oh boy, that's a really good question. I think if you put the two teams together, they might be better than the White Sox.


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[Assistant] They might be 28. Yeah, something like that. They're not good! Like, they're, they're really, like, and, and for, you know, everybody is gonna just mark this right now.


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[Assistant] Everybody is gonna pick on Colorado's pitching this year, and that's not gonna be fair to them, because their numbers are always gonna look lousy because they pitch at Coors Field.


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[Assistant] They actually have a couple of decent pitchers, right? Kyle Freeland's not bad, actually. His numbers are going to look terrible because he pitches at cores. That is a bad offensive team. I mean, they're just not good.


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[Assistant] And they have played really poor defense to this point, some of the A's. But the, the Rockies, like I went and saw the Rockies play on Saturday night and like I knew they weren't going to be good and I walked out of it going,


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[Assistant] This is gonna be a tough season. And there's just not, like, outside of Tovar, there's Shortstop and Nolan Jones.


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[Assistant] They have very few guaranteed building blocks. Like, Brenton Doyle is a great story, right? He went to Shepherd University, you know, the D2 in West Virginia, and he won the Gold Glove last year.


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[Assistant] But he has not hit at all at the big league level. And I'm not sure that he will unless he cuts down to strikeout. And it looked like he had!


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[Assistant] I would give you two names that are worth considering right now. Charlie Condon, who is at Georgia, who leads the nation at home runs and is hitting over 500. This is a guy who was a redshirt freshman a year ago, didn't take a single at bat the first year he was on campus. He was like a preferred walk-on.


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[Assistant] And Condon is having an unbelievable year. Really good athlete. Six foot six. He's played some third base and played it pretty well. Real right handed power. I would say Condon is near the top of the list. I think twice as many watched the strikeouts. It's more homers than strikeouts and it's like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, those are the two guys that I would put at the top of the list right now. And then you can get into like some of the pitchers, Chase Burns, Wake Forest, Egan Smith at Arkansas. But really, those two bats I think are the top two guys right now.


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[Assistant] And we'll explain that when we get to that topic, but we're gonna start with some potential extensions for Kevin Stavansky and Andrew Barry.


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[Assistant] Turning $2 into $120. So shout out to Mike Kados for today's winning ticket. As always, if you want to have a ticket featured on the show,


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[Assistant] It's been up for two minutes, only 184 votes, so small sample size.


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[Assistant] Simple, just to answer your question, Tyvis. In your opinion, is Kevin Stefanski a good head coach? 88% say yes, 12% say no.


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[Assistant] No, no, I take that back. Sean Payton's the highest paid coach in football right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, we talked earlier about the Cavs new practice facility. We're going to talk Brown's new stadium in one sec, but Jason's going to elaborate on some of those Cavs facility plans and we're going to break down whether or not


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[Assistant] It's too late for the Cavs to be fixed, or if there's still time for Cleveland to fix its issues tonight. On the next episode of the Ultimate Cavs Show, debuting at 5 o'clock, it'll be live. Jason and myself, as always, every Tuesday coming at you with 30 minutes of uninterrupted.


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[Assistant] Each and every week, well you can improve on that for next week. Alright, we'll work on it. Speaking of stadium stuff though.


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[Assistant] Another thing that Jimmy Hasm said at the owner's meetings was he's essentially down to two options for a new stadium. Renovate the current stadium downtown for a billion dollars.


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[Assistant] Correct. Yes, no roof. Or build a dome stadium outside of downtown, presumably in the Brook Park lot that he has optioned to buy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's the West, for example, West six tailgate on a home game is, you know, your standing room only your shoulder shoulder. It's bad.


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[Assistant] Now, if you go out to Barley House or Map Room or whatever on a Sunday in there on the road.


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[Assistant] For a potential third option. Something that hadn't been discussed yet. And I'm curious what you guys think about this idea. Earl, take it away.


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[Assistant] Speaking of another day, Matt Miller, who was supposed to join us in 10 minutes, has rescheduled to Friday. They had some breaking news he had to attend to on ESPN, so he asked if he could reschedule.


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[Assistant] Just with these rule changes, how it affects some of the draft prospects, if anyone's going to move up, which leads us to our next topic anyway.


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[Assistant] You're gonna be able to bet on kickoffs next season. And if you're betting on kickoffs because there'll be a higher return rate, you better be using FanDuel America's number one sportsbook. Also on FanDuel, you can say goodbye to busted brackets because FanDuel is letting you bet on every game of the NCAA tournament. Whether you're betting on a big upset or a one seed, it's time to go dancing on America's number one sportsbook.


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[Assistant] The first rule I want to talk about bowl. Yes. This got, this got feisty in a pre-show meeting. I just have a cease and desist between you and Tyrus. The NFL has banned the hip drop tackle.


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[Assistant] I will give Tyvis the floor first. Go ahead, Tyvis. Your thoughts on the NFL banning the hip drop.


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[Assistant] But it starts, the players are five yards apart. You cannot move until the first turner catches the ball. It eliminates the head-on contact.


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[Assistant] There was one kick return touchdown in the XFL last season, but teams averaged five to six kick returns per game, so it's bringing it back in the game.


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[Assistant] Do you guys wanna, do you wanna see a full video from, Jeff Darlington did a full, it's two minutes. Yea, let's see this, let's watch this. Yea, we played a Jeff Darlington video, he did this on ESPN this morning. A very good explanation of the new kickoff rules. Steve, you can play.


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[Assistant] The blockers and stuff can move. It's like a, a squib kick, essentially.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause it's a free ball, or you could let it roll into the end zone, but at that point, there's no advantage. This is encouraging kick return.


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[Assistant] Let me take this tag board full. Watch, this was from the St. Louis Battle Hawks this year. It'll replay in one sec. But this was a double reverse they took to the house, uh, last season. This was one of the ones that went off. But there you could have two returners back there. You could do whatever you want. This started with one returner. He's going to catch it, go to the left.


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[Assistant] Two more rules real quick. I wanna touch on before we talk Cavs for a sec and then Guardians, but you can now challenge a third time.


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[Assistant] One week, not the two weeks that Andrew Barry proposed, the one week is now week nine.


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[Assistant] Uh, being pretty harsh on the Cavs for their performance against Miami on Sunday, so it would be a disservice if we didn't at least acknowledge the fact that they beat Charlotte last night by 20 points. Marcus Morris, uh, was kicked out of the game for a flagrant two foul, led a little spark, led, I don't want to call it a comeback, but led a spirit second half performance. But what'd you make in the game last night? How badly did the Cavs


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[Assistant] Breakdown the Cavs new practice facility, what's next, how it can be salvaged and whether or not it's too late. Also coming up on Thursday, make sure you tune into the Ultimate 216 Show with Earl the Pearl on Friday. Ultimate Brown Show with G. Bush and make sure you check out the Ultimate Guardian Show. The debut yesterday was Zack and Bull.


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[Assistant] Alright, first off, we'll start with the guy.


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[Assistant] 27 and a half home runs for Jose Ramirez.


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[Assistant] Next up, sticking with the home run theme, Stephen Kwan. Eight and a half.


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[Assistant] Alright, Josh Naylor's up next. He had, uh, 17 last season. His over-under set at 23 and a half.


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[Assistant] Same number for Andres Jimenez, 18 and a half home runs.


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[Assistant] Of all the home runs, whether you took the over or the under, which one were you most confident picking?


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[Assistant] Three different answers. I'd like to see that. Alright, moving on to some different offensive statistics.


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[Assistant] How about over under 26 and a half stolen bases for Jose Ramirez? He had 28 last season.


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[Assistant] Two unders and an over. What number would you feel confident taking for stolen bases? 20?


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[Assistant] Over 115 and a half hits for Brennan this season. He had exactly 115 last year.


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[Assistant] That's not gonna bode well. Florial over under 75 and a half hits this season. If you think he's gone by April, he'd have to have the greatest April.


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[Assistant] Last one I lied, there was one more offensive one. Back to Jose, we did his home runs, we did his stolen bases.


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[Assistant] All over, and the last one, Stephen Kwan, 185 and a half hits.


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[Assistant] Now you took the over on his home runs though. Are you concerned that him...


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[Assistant] Alright, so that concludes the offensive section. We'll go to the pitching section now.


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[Assistant] Shane Bieber is fascinating. Tom Hamilton said he wouldn't be surprised if the Guardians moved him at some point. Jay even s- not suggested, but floated out the theory that-


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[Assistant] He's not 100% confident he won't be traded before Thursday.


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[Assistant] He had 81 strikeouts in 82 winnings last season, almost a strikeout per inning.


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[Assistant] Tristan McKenzie, let me find, Tristan McKenzie had 16 strikeouts in 16 innings.


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[Assistant] In 2022, let me pull up that tab. Give me one sec while I apologize. He had 190 strikeouts and 191 innings.


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[Assistant] Uh, speaking of the Guardians rotation, Steve, don't take this, uh, next, but Zach Meisel reported the starting pitching matchups. This is their starting rotation.


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[Assistant] Of course, Stephen Boat in his first five games. He's going Bieber in game one. Yep. Logan Allen game two. Oh wow. Huh? Bybee game three. Really? Carrasco four and Mackenzie five.


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[Assistant] Is he gonna stay healthy? Another big question. 170 and a half innings pitch for sure.


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[Assistant] His record was 3 and 9, by the way. He had 75 appears. 3 and 9 record.


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[Assistant] Yeah, pitch 72 and 2 thirds innings, which is pretty crazy.


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[Assistant] Of a team no hitter. So this could be individual or team for the Guardian staff.


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[Assistant] 81 by the way for Len Barker. I want to throw out to you guys regarding the grounds and potential streaming options for them coming up. So give me your Miles Straw.


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[Assistant] We got some super chats we gotta get to. First off, Kyle Brenner, our, uh, extracurricular graphic designer for DTR Outfits.


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[Assistant] Says, extra cup of coffee for bull this morning with three laughing emojis.


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[Assistant] Wolf Rage, gifted five membership, shout out to Wolf Rage. Mud.


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[Assistant] The name gets cut off, it's too long. Muddaloose. Says, Jason, can you yell at someone for being out of pocket? Bull, can you call someone a slappy again? Tyvis, can you hype me up one more time about Mike Vrabel?


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[Assistant] Chris Lowry says, we got all these great coaches now, but I'm getting a sense, it feels like when Malone and Payton join Shaq and Kobe and the Lakers, if they don't click, it'll be a bust.


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[Assistant] If it's a dome, it can be used 12 months, not just 10 days.


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[Assistant] Have one road in and one road out, like they did in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Alright. And the last bit of news, which is going to lead us into our overtime topic here. Steve, you can take tag board full.


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[Assistant] HBO is not focusing on just one team for Hard Knocks this season. It'll focus on four teams in a division.


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[Assistant] Also one more note, we are going to learn the fate of the Browns in week one by Thursday. That's when the NFL will announce the Brazil game. They are down between the Browns and the Packers according to all reports as who will be Philadelphia's week one opponent in Brazil. That game will be streamed on Peacock. However,


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[Assistant] And I'm Mikey McNuggets, and the Browns have not won a Super Bowl in the modern era. So how many Cavaliers championships and Guardians World Series would you trade?


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[Assistant] For one Super Bowl parade. Find out in a few minutes.


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[Assistant] Whether or not players or coaches impact offensive change more as Jason alluded to just a second ago, the Browns hired a plethora of new offensive coaches. It's essentially an entire new offensive staff.


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[Assistant] And although some of us believe the offense will look much different in 2024 than it did in 2023,


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[Assistant] You're not so sure that the coaches are the reason why.


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[Assistant] How about linebacker Jordan Brooks at a Seattle? I think he's the perfect fit alongside JOK and Taki Taki, who I think will be resigned to form a very dynamic linebacker trio.


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[Assistant] I do have a question for both of you guys, because you both had Aureus as your starting shortstop, and if they are facing JPC as a lefty,


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[Assistant] Aries was terrible against lefties last season. He was 9 for 108 against left handed pitching last season for a whopping 0.083 batting average. They don't really have anyone else to play at shortstop against a lefty.


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[Assistant] Speaking of extra guardians content, we have the Ultimate Guardian Show launching on March 25th. We also do the Ultimate Cavalier Show, myself and Jason, once a week, 30 minutes, dedicated to just Cavs coverage. G. Bush does the Ultimate Brown Show Mondays and Fridays, 30 minutes of just Browns coverage and Earl of Pearl.


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[Assistant] Our guy behind the glass also does the ultimate two one six show every Thursday, a little culture sports combo. And if you want more UCSS content, you can always download us in podcast form as well, wherever you download your podcasts.


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[Assistant] So before the show yesterday, we had Tyvis Powell, who's also on this panel, upstairs in our pre-production room, and I was asking Erlen Tyvis, okay.


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[Assistant] Would you do two and two? Two Guardians World Series, two Cavs NBA Championships, or one Super Bowl? Would you do two and one?


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[Assistant] So I settled on two and one because that got the most dissension from my audience. So I came to the conclusion.


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[Assistant] Well, I also have some people in the office that did not, weren't in the room, but I started with Tyvis and Earl.


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[Assistant] So would you trade two Cavaliers, NBA championships and one Guardians World Series win for one Brown Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I would. I'm all about- I wanna see a Super Bowl parade here in Cleveland. I think the Browns fans have been tortured enough they deserve it.


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[Assistant] Earl said he would trade 4, 2 and 2, Tyvis said 2 and 1.


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[Assistant] I think Stefanski is on a hotter seat than we realized, but that's just my perspective.


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[Assistant] I don't have a high thought behind Jimmy Haslam, so I feel like this is definitely his break class. From a football perspective though, any downsides whatsoever?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you take him every time. This is fantastic. You have some of the best football minds. Like you guys have been saying this whole time in Berea now for this team. And if you're going to go all in this year, which is what it's looking like for everything. Why not? Like I understand the move. It's just Kevin might be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I want to clarify my comments before. I'll be happy if Kevin stays and gets his extension and everything, but the fact that he doesn't have it and they brought in variable, that's my, hey, if anything goes bad, you know, it's going to happen. But I'm excited. I think it's a great hire and I look forward to this Brown season. I hope Sapansky stays around and I hope we put it all together this year.


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[Assistant] You know what I was, so yesterday I was sitting at the house and I had Bleacher Report. I get notifications from Bleacher Report. And the NFL is about to do, they're trying to do away with the hip drop tackle.


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[Assistant] So it's funny, I get the, I get the notification, I look at it, literally five minutes later, my phone rings. It's Richard Kevin Sherman. And he calls and says, yea, I gotta, yea, he says, he says Tyrus, he says Chansey, that's what he calls it. Chansey says, woah, you can't just blow over that. Where's Chansey? That's my middle name.


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[Assistant] Do you like it? Do you not like it? I, I don't care for the name. So why'd you tell him to stop? Cause he, cause he, that, if I tell him. Exactly. So if I tell him I don't like it, he's really gonna do it. So I just let them have his moment. Anyways, he was like, he was like, listen.


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[Assistant] How are we supposed to be as defenders? How are we going to make these tackles? And I'm like, I'm like sure, you know, I don't understand the hip drop tackle. Like as a DB, if I got to tackle a 255 pound tight end.


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[Assistant] Like of course I'ma drop my wig. Like yes. Like what do you want? They should just put the flags on them because they wanted to be an offensive game anyway.


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[Assistant] And I think that he could be very productive, like I said, down on the goal line. But if this offense is going more to a passing thing, I don't know if that's necessarily you want him in as your feature back.


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[Assistant] Did you assume that already or no? Well, I have made a bet, right? Alive on this set, I shook Jay Crawford's hand right there and told him that Kareem Hunt is done. Yeah, he should have known. I want to know that. I want to collect my winnings. What was the bet? I don't remember. A stake? You know what?


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah, for the Nick Chubb thing, obviously they're a little worried that maybe he's not gonna be available right at the beginning of the season. And that's very hard, I mean, listen, you tore both things in your leg, yeaah, it's gonna take a while.


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[Assistant] Adrian Peterson, everybody likes to compare him to Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson is


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[Assistant] You just need another change of pace. You can't just continue to go with the speed backs all the time, man. You need somebody that can wear defenses down and he can do that.


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[Assistant] I know Pierre Strong isn't the answer because I watched him try to go for it on the goal line. You know, he got stoned in the game, right on the one. He tried to punch it in and boom, stoned him. So you definitely need that guy since Kareem Hunt ain't on the roster.


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[Assistant] Is that it's gonna take a while to get back because you gotta trust your knee. You gotta trust that it's there.


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[Assistant] That's ridiculous. Your lead back from last year is going to put him in jeopardy. That doesn't even make sense. So you think they carried four running backs? No, they carried three and put one on practice ground. If they was to cut Pierre Strong, I don't think people would pick him up.


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[Assistant] So, that's what's going to keep him around.


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[Assistant] It wasn't like he was awful, he was just okay. He was hot and cold. He got better as the year went on. His vision just wasn't that great, but he had moments where he started to see things and he ran just a tad bit harder. Especially towards the end of the year. He got a lot better.


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[Assistant] They would cut Heinz or Forman before they cut Ford. I agree.


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[Assistant] You wouldn't cut four because four can take care of like three things. He could be your pass catching back, he could be your returner, and he could be your starting back. Why would you get rid of a guy that can do three different things?


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[Assistant] When they come out and they break the huddle for the first one, Jerome 4 will be the starting back.


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[Assistant] The season last year, although they had Kareem Hunt, it still was, he, he just.


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[Assistant] I mean I agree with that. I just feel like at every draft you always take a running back. Like whether it's 6 rounds, 7 rounds or 100 drafts.


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[Assistant] They say come a dime, a dozen. So as long as you, I think you got the ones on your roster currently that fits what you're trying to do offensively anyways. Yeah. As far as being more of a pass catching back.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Because you can't keep them forward and keep paying these big guys. You take care of the main three or four guys that you need. Right. But now you need guys that can be impactful that's on rookie deals.


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[Assistant] You can't keep paying Zedarius this type of money. You can't, you know, when it's time for Gnu and Martin Emerson, maybe you can't afford to pay all this money.


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[Assistant] You're looking for what? The ones. What does that mean? One on one.


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[Assistant] I personally wouldn't have put them as number one. Who would you put number one? I mean I would-


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[Assistant] See, and I'm getting me wrong, sacks is not the end all be all when it comes to rush. You gotta go with like quarterback pressures and stuff like that, make them get rid of the ball, hurries and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] I think the Browns, the Browns are definitely up there for sure. I mean, they, since Jim Schwartz has come in, came in there, they, at the beginning of the season, they were unbelievable at, you know, at least getting the quarterback to move or getting an effective pass rush. So I see why they can be up there at number one or close to number one or whatever you want to say.


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[Assistant] But, like, Pittsburgh's D-line is good. They added Patrick Queen. You know, they got, they added some stuff there that's really good as well. I'm with y'all. I'm not gonna necessarily say that they're number one, but they're definitely in the top two, top three for sure. Let me play devil's advocate a little bit.


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[Assistant] Another reason I can't put the Browns at number one is because when they needed it the most in the playoffs, like towards the end of the season, it kind of just disappeared. So I think that you gotta show up in those big moments.


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[Assistant] To have a opportunity to play in Brazil? Yea. I got an opportunity to play in Hawaii and I was geeked about it.


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[Assistant] Oh my goodness, it was unbelievable. We lost, I think we lost.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was a preseason game. I was playing for Dallas. Right, it was exciting. It was. Did you get to spend much time there? Yeah, we spent a whole week out there. That was actually wonderful.


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[Assistant] For the Browns to play in Brazil, first of all, the Browns fan base is pretty good. They got a pretty good fan base. You would think that it's probably some Browns backers in Brazil. So for them to have an opportunity to come watch them play live, that's, that's big time. If they have to be the first team to play in Brazil, that's big time as well.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's fine and cool and dandy. These are professional athletes. You know, these guys should be able to get their bodies right. I mean, what's the difference between


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[Assistant] If they played on a Sunday and had to play a Thursday, like they were, they're able to pull those things off. So if that's the case, I'm never worried about the travel or anything like that affecting the play of a team. I think it's a really cool opportunity. There is no way and shape, form or fashion that they're getting screwed over in this deal.


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[Assistant] I think the players will be excited to do it, and they'll have a really good time, and if this season means a lot to them, they'll find a way to win that, come back and continue to win the rest of these games. So, I'm not worried about it one bit.


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[Assistant] I'ma say the chat said no. I'ma say 80-20 no.


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[Assistant] And I'm sitting there and I'm watching because I need Karris Levert to get over 15 points. Okay. He had, at the time he had 12 and I'm like oh I need him to get two more buckets. So he ended up getting 14 and Terry had...


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[Assistant] I think he, I took the under. His was 17 and a half. Terry had 15 points.


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[Assistant] So I'm like, aw man, Karris end up getting 16. I said aw yeah, we in there. We in there.


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[Assistant] Terry, Terry from Shaker Heights, he from Cleveland, he probably was, I should have known when I put the bet in, I should have known that if you go against your team, your childhood team, you're going to go off. And that's my fault.


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[Assistant] So Terry, I'm mad at you, but I can't be mad at you because I understand why you did what you did. This is what I've learned. The Heights, the Shaker Heights, the Bedford Heights, the Cleveland Heights, the Wardsville Heights. $5,000, Earl. $10 would have gotten me $5,000.


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[Assistant] Two years ago, when he was on, when he had the all-star season, I said that he was probably the second best center in the East behind MB.


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[Assistant] I didn't expect him to be this 2020 guy. Like I figured he'd get double doubles a lot, but 2020 I didn't expect to see and he has gotten better.


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[Assistant] Offensively. Nah, he don't have a jump shot, but here, the way he finishes at the rim and the little hook he got, the little float jumper that he got, it goes in a lot.


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[Assistant] And on top of that, he's really good defensively. I think that he, him not having Mobley really has flourished his offensive game and has really showed that he's better without another big man on the floor. I think when Mobley's in there,


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[Assistant] He's not maybe, offensively he's not as effective, but defensively he is, because everybody funnels everything to him. When Mobley's not in there, he's got more room to work, and now he can hit him with the little jump hook, or, you know, get a move, get to the cup, and you know, finish it at the rim, so.


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[Assistant] But everybody gonna say the same thing, you know. We need to see if the lights is bright in next month.


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[Assistant] I think that if you feel the need that you have to...


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[Assistant] Threaten a player or a coach, then you need to call 1-800-GAMBLER. Yes. Because it tells you right before you make any bet. 1-800-GAMBLER. I think that...


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[Assistant] Like for me, it's all funny games. I'm only betting five or ten dollars and I'm trying to make the most out of it. So if I lose five or ten dollars, who cares? But if you're at the situation where you're literally threatening somebody's life,


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[Assistant] Because of some money that you bet, then you have a problem. Like that's the thing. Like you, you shouldn't be betting. You, or you should reduce the size of your bets to something that you can afford to lose. They always say you only bet what you can afford to lose. Uhm, as far as it goes with athletes, I know people are listening like,


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[Assistant] Well, they're athletes, you know, they shouldn't, they, they should be worried about the game. And you're right, 100%. I think if you're an athlete and you're playing in professional sports right now, your mindset should be focused on winning the game or doing whatever it takes to win those games. It's not about me hitting a certain amount of points or a certain amount of rebounds or whatever the case may be. That's not on my mind. What's on my mind is what I need to do to win this game.


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[Assistant] And as far as the, when you go back and you check social media and people tweet you, that's just part of it.


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[Assistant] You can't care about those things because they don't care about that you had to get up at 530 in the morning to go work out every day or you had to sacrifice a lot of things in your life to get to the situation that you're in to even be on the court. They didn't care about that. So why would you care about their parlay or anything like that? So I think that


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[Assistant] They gotta be a little bit more thick skinned, uhm, athletes need to be a little bit more thick skinned and not care about those things. But it's also nice when people are


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[Assistant] Maybe they send you a winning part like, like, hey, I appreciate you coming through for me. Like, that's, that's nice here. It's about getting a happy balance. I know Kevin Durant joked around and tweeted it out, something like,


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[Assistant] He was like, I hear all the time about how I call somebody a parlay, but when I hit for somebody, nobody want to send me no money to cash out or nothing like that. So, like I say, it's one of those things that...


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[Assistant] See, that's the thing, I don't want you to have a...


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[Assistant] I'm about to say there's people nowadays that quit their jobs and taking up sports gambling as a full-time kid.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to be- I'm trying to be like Adam Sandler on Uncut Gems.


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[Assistant] Because we was literally about to, we just had the Cavs and the Indians was about to do it. They was about to do it. You know I was at games four and five at Wrigley Field? Yea, shout out to Holly for getting you tickets. That's right, you knew that. I remember. You did. I was. It's got to be face value tickets.


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[Assistant] Well for that reason, I was gonna say Raja Davis. I think it's a good choice. That's a great choice. But it's only one real answer to this question. It's Mike Zanino.


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[Assistant] Like Zadina was underrated because he chose to come to the guardians and yes, he got paid. But for those, what, 8 games? How many games did he play for us? Those 43 games are the catcher position. He was gunning stuff down. He was a decent hitter.


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[Assistant] No, a friend of the show actually, he's watching and he chomped in on this. And he actually has, he makes a good point. He says it's Carlos Carrasco.


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[Assistant] Because he had Tommy John surgery in 2012 and was one of the best starters to land the AL and wins in 2017. I just felt like the fans loved him. I think he might have been... But do people put him as like...


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[Assistant] I mean, the comeback from Tommy John surgery, I mean, back then, like, when you had that, it was like, over with. No. It was!


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[Assistant] But it's still, it's still Mike Zanino. And Austin Hedges. Excuse me, World Series Champion, Austin Hedges. That's true.


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[Assistant] Anthony Schwartz got a problem with him if he's searching his own name on Twitter. Yea, that's a little strange. Cause if they tagged him in it, that's totally different, but to search his own name, like that's, yo, you got the problem from with him. You've never done it?


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[Assistant] Every since I met Jason and Jason told me to take the mentions off. Yeaah. Boy, I don't see nothing. The only time I see something is if somebody I'm following tweets it to me or asks me. So, it actually does make life


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[Assistant] I think right now, if you just traded, if you traded Jerome straight up right now, you'd probably get that best of four.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't even know if you can get that. You don't think? I mean, he's cheap. At best. But he's coming off of a productive year. Right. He could be a number one. I think you could because of- You can get a fourth for that. I think you could because of the-


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[Assistant] I'm gonna give my money either way I go. Either I get the contract or I just fake a seizure or fall in the middle of the aisle.


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[Assistant] It's on tape now. It's on tape now. The tape is off dude. See dog, listen. Internet lives forever. I got a weightlifting accident. Oh, I see. I see that you're planning.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I've seen all I need to see. Uhm, I think we're, at this point, we're fooling ourselves into trying to be, uh, you know, nice. You know, I joke-ally call myself the duke of knee-jerk, right?


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[Assistant] And I think there's a lot of times when people have sports takes, they want to be level headed and they want to be seen as a person that is, that is fair minded when you're critiquing the teams. Um, but sometimes that just comes off as being a homer and somebody that puts their head in the sand and it doesn't want to win at the highest level. This team is not good enough.


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[Assistant] Uh, rosterize, they don't have the mindset, they don't have the mindset from the, from the general manager to the play-by-play people, to the people that's in the, in the, in the, in the queue or wherever you call the field house. Every time you get somebody.


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[Assistant] Inside that organization and you listen to them, they are apologizing every five seconds for things.


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[Assistant] They act like we don't know what we're talking about. We saw LeBron James take a team to the finals to play one of the best teams of all time. We know what it looks like when teams are dialed in. We know what it looks like when you have identity. We know what it looks like when guys get fired up.


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[Assistant] And my thing is this, Donovan Mitchell, when Draymond Green and LeBron James is friends.


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[Assistant] But when Dre Mongris low blow LeBron and said what he said, it was on their own site. Everybody was ready to fight.


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[Assistant] Steph Curry in that mouthpiece, what did LeBron tell him? Hey, you too small. He went after Steph Curry. The fact that he came through and plucked your chain, you know what he told you?


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[Assistant] We punked you last year. You know what type of time it was. You know that this was for the season series. You know we want the tiebreaker and you know Brunson ain't playing. But you standing up clapping it up. Trying to coach people up. I don't give a damn about coaching up. You coach on the floor.


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[Assistant] That should have been an all hands on deck type game. I don't care. You gotta drag me off the floor. We need to have this game. And that was the attitude. Don't get the young guys together. You lead by example. Don't get them together while you in street clothes. And he went by you and said, listen, know what that was?


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[Assistant] You ain't one of them as bad as we did. You see what I just did? I just put a triple W with 19 rebounds and I'm a shooting guard. And our best players ain't even playing. I'm the seventh best player. That's a nice chain. That's all it was. A nice chain.


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[Assistant] Wearing all these jewels on the sideline and I'm putting dagger threes on you. We don't even need our big dogs. I'm the shooter. I'm the little dog. I'm the shooter.


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[Assistant] Don't worry about Brunson. I got you. I got the heart for it. And guess what? The rest of your dudes went out here and got drugged and on national TV got drugged again. And by the way, you came out there with Daris Garland. You, you, you told Daris Garland all of, all of what he did for this city.


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[Assistant] And McNugget said, I'm gonna give G Bush the last, the last word. And I go get my money off it. I'm doing my G Bush thing. And at the end of my monologue, I reach over and just flick.


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[Assistant] Earl's little, uh, locks. There you go, Earl. Take that.


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[Assistant] He, he has to, listen, I don't care if he likes me, he has to be like, listen, don't touch me no more, though. I like you, G-boy, you bigger than me, you, we cool, you my brother, but don't touch me like that no more. The fact that he let him do that, Jay, was crazy. It was crazy. It was disrespectful.


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[Assistant] It wasn't, it sure as heck ain't Jared Allen. Jared Allen can't even tell. Listen, somebody need to get with him and get, get with some people. And I don't, I'm not gonna go too far, but somebody really need to work with him on his body language. If he misses a shot,


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[Assistant] If something goes wrong, he's trotting down the court timid, he has his head down, he's moping around, he, like, he, it's almost like you show him any anger and he's willing to wilt.


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[Assistant] And it was almost Cincinnati Bengals-esque in the way he talked about Brunson going down. And I think the context was a...


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[Assistant] This guy, this guy JB Bickerstaff says, they asked him, hey, um, Brunson went down, you guys think you took your foot off the gas. Look at this.


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[Assistant] The problem that I have is JB Biggerstaff did not, no disrespect to anybody and I'm just saying this to give you context. He's a starter coach.


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[Assistant] He's a guy that you get, that you bring in, that he's able to get younger guys and build them up, build their confidence.


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[Assistant] And continue to get him to play in jail together as a unit. Then you go bring in a hardened X and O, X's of those guys who's won it before. And so you can snap them into, into, uh, into the mindset that they're supposed to be in. When you look at JB, there's just two or three problems with him. First and foremost, he is crossing his arms.


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[Assistant] Running up and down the court, barking at every single call. I'm like, come on, JB, just stop. That was a foul. You know it was a foul. Stop going to these reps. You called him a monster, I think, at one of your threes. Just walking up, just, ah, JB, ah, that was a lie.


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[Assistant] I told you about your body language, Jared. If anything, smack somebody. I got the fine money. He does none of that. No challenging, nothing.


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[Assistant] Hey, shout out to Gilbert Arenas, he said this and I respect him for it. He said, you know, I listen to a lot of these old timers, a lot of these dudes that grew up in what we say is the heyday of the NBA. He said, you know what, I got respect for a lot of them, but a lot of them, I can't respect them for.


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[Assistant] Their competitive nature. And I was like, dang, I need to see what he's saying. You see, there's a lot of teams in the 80s.


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[Assistant] And a lot of really great players that died and their career ended with no rings. And half of the reason they, they, they perished and didn't get no rings was because there was this infatuation with the admiration of Michael Jordan.


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[Assistant] Instead of you going at Michael Jordan, you watched him hit 50 on me.


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[Assistant] And they all were so infatuated with Michael Jordan and the narrative of being the greatest of all time that y'all forgot that you got hands too, that you got a career too. What happened to you wanting it that bad? What happened to it? As we fast forward to today, I'm looking at the guys on his team and being like, you're a match player.


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[Assistant] You're a guy that they said you were a unicorn, but all these young boys is coming up with the Wimby's, the Chet Holmgren's, and you don't add nothing to your game. We, you, you said Jared Allen, their lights was too bright last year. You had an opportunity to remedy that this year, and you did nothing of it.


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[Assistant] And so every single time that people want to get mad and say, well, why are they doing that for the calves? Why aren't you? It's because of that. You guys.


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[Assistant] Don't put Max Afford out. You don't go out there and play like it's your last day. And I'm tired of-


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[Assistant] We're going at the guardians and I'm tired of going at the Browns and we do it for 35, 36 weeks out of the year and we break down every syllable of what's going on with the Browns. But the Cavs get up here and feel like because they give us 45 games, they get an ultimate hall pass. Y'all not getting the hall passes.


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[Assistant] I repeat, we got a championship ring and we got them rings before you was here.


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[Assistant] So let's not act like you're doing us some favors by coming out here playing. We know what championship basketball is, and this is not it.


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[Assistant] I see, yeah, and I like Darius Carden. He hit like eight threes or something against Detroit, right? Against Detroit. You know what I noticed in this game? I noticed in this game,


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[Assistant] That once again, he's a one trick pony. If I could see it, and you could see it, they could see it. Dribble, dribble, dribble.


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[Assistant] Pivot, dribble under the basket, probe, dribble, dribble, get double team, throw the ball away.


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[Assistant] He's a liability defensively. If Sam Merrill's a liability defensively, then Darius Garland is a triple liability.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that you gonna put Darius Garland on the bench, but one of the things that I don't believe in is having Darius Garland as the primary point guard handling the ball in crunch time. Tell him to go sit in that corner.


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[Assistant] And, and, and get ready to shoot. Because what he's doing and turning the ball over in the fourth quarter is crazy. It's nuts. And my thing is too. Big spots too, G. Big, just last night, same thing. I'm looking around like, oh, here comes the turnover. There it is.


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[Assistant] On his, on his, on his own face. On his own mirror. And by the way, he, he does it when Harris LaVert may be out, uh, you may look at, you may look at, uh, George Neang or somebody else on the bench may be out, and all of a sudden,


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[Assistant] Sam Merrill's been shooting 47% since day one when he came into the league and yet still you can't and ask him about it. Yeah, Sam's earned the right. Stop telling me these stupid cliches. Put the man on the court, get your rotations together. As a coach, he hasn't improved on not one thing.


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[Assistant] He's still, he's still always learning lessons, but never coming into the knowledge of.


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[Assistant] And we went through that and all the Colin Sexton guys talked about how Darius Garland was the next evolutionary step. He's the same person, the same guy. And why not add he's a less physical version of Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] Uhm, when I look at this, and this is my problem with Cleveland a lot. If Sam Merrill, just take him off the squad, and you tell him to go play for the Lakers.


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[Assistant] Go let them play for the Heat. You take them off the squad, put them in Philadelphia. You take them off any of these teams, put them with a contending team and a half-decent coach that understands what a skill set looks like. And they would beat us to death. They would beat...


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[Assistant] We, they will wipe us our face in the fact that we let Sam Merrill go. But we got somebody on the sideline that does, I don't know if he knows how to evaluate talent. I don't know if he knows how to incorporate it. And the fact that you got a guy that can hit 10 threes in a game and you still trying to quote unquote five minutes for him is absurd. It's absurd.


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[Assistant] He's gonna call me down. I need to know from Tyvis. He's gotta give me three or four more prospects that we can go after. These names is getting, getting down to the nitty gritty. Uh, and uh, we, we definitely gonna also talk about, um, the, the, the potential of going to get a defensive player and make a defensive forefront.


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[Assistant] Let's say this, we talked about this even when we started mentioning Mike Evans' names.


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[Assistant] You know, we all said, that's a little bit of a farfetched. When you got a guy like Mike Williams who's played his whole career in Tampa Bay, he has a Hall of Fame type resume. Of course, he wants to, he plays in Florida, it's nice down there, they love him down there. No state tax. No taxes.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a no-brainer. Why would you want to come and then re-acclimate yourself? Because that, to be truthful, that's his city. Like if you say Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] The first person you think of is Mike Evans, like, so, he's that dude down there. We knew that it was going to be far-fetched with him and T Higgins, and I think that influx of money into the salary cap is rearing his ugly head, right? Because not only did it help the Browns, but it also helped other teams. It also helped-


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[Assistant] They're going to take the money. At that position. At that position. And at that point in your life, let's be clear, let's be clear. We all, we're all working. And even, this analogy is for people that just work regular jobs. You know, you get married, you have kids, you got younger kids, you're in your mid-thirties.


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[Assistant] And you get an opportunity to take a job over here and they gonna pay you almost 30, 40% more than you getting paid. Just by the fact that they gonna pay you that.


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[Assistant] And Mike Evans obviously didn't eff with Happy. Right, he's good where he is. He said, Baker threw me the ball, I got 1300, I had 13 touchdowns, one of the best years, I'm in Florida, take it. Now, how do you get a guy to forget about Happy?


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[Assistant] When they slide you that check, when they slide you that number across the table, and it's folded up, and you look at it and you say, uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] What I signed up for. And you get a roster of people, you go on dating sites and you look at the people and you say, okay, let's see if I match with this person, right?


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[Assistant] And you got people that you can technically date them all the way down to the age of 19, right? Technically, right? But guess what? I ain't got no time to be waiting on that.


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[Assistant] You, you, you, you got too much energy. You be wanting to go on vacations. You still probably think that this was life. Go clubbing. Go clubbing. Let's go out with a drink with my friend. Girl, if you don't, if you don't, I need somebody a veteran. I need, I need a vet that understands that when I get off work at 6 o'clock, we ain't about to go hang out.


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[Assistant] If you want one of them veterans that understand the game, the veterans ain't gonna play with you. You gotta revamp what you're doing. They not gonna play no games. You better be, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh


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[Assistant] Put something else and go get you something.


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[Assistant] Well see, you know, Jay just really, in the cliff notes of what he said, he basically said, the only way you win is Operation Stockpile.


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[Assistant] Basically what they gonna do is give him a new deal and give him a bunch of upfront money right now.


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[Assistant] Did we take that, did we take that money that we would have had allocated to the cap? Now all of a sudden it's looking like we got 15 million off that and we, and we go to Amari Cooper. Hey Amari!


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[Assistant] We love you so much, uh, we gonna kick your can down the road. Mario Cooper might be on this, on this, uh, on this team, 34 years old. He might be a shell of himself.


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[Assistant] That's why I keep saying it. It's not a knock against Deshaun Watson. I'm not knocking his skill set or saying that he can't get back to where he is. But what you want to do is you want to give him and the Browns the best opportunity


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[Assistant] You just want a puncher's chance. That's all you want. You want a puncher's chance going into a game where you may be playing Joe Burrow. And you know what you need with that?


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[Assistant] I feel good saying I got the best defensive line in the game. I got Amari Cooper who's my number two receiver. I got a speed receiver that can get deep.


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[Assistant] And I got Nick Chubb in another back that's ready to go. And I got another number one receiver. I believe the Browns have to come out of this with two receivers. Either way. You either get a free agent,


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[Assistant] You trade for one, or you draft. Some combination, but I think you gotta go into this thing saying, I need a receiver that's better than Amari Cooper. Cause now I slide him to the two, and now this thing looks completely different. That's gonna be the hardest part of it. That's the hardest part.


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[Assistant] So, I've been thinking about it a little bit because I've been really getting my, wrapping my head around the Brian Burns pick. Y'all let me know in the chat, man. Let me know in the chat how you feel about the Browns upgrading that defensive line and making it.


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[Assistant] Hall of Fame status. And what I mean by that is, say for instance you can't get


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[Assistant] You can't get what you want necessarily at receiver. And it's starting to look more and more likely that you're not.


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[Assistant] How do you feel about saying, well look, the best part of our team was our defense. We're gonna just have to go all in and make


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[Assistant] The defense, great, great, great. Like when you look at it, you say, all right, can I get a unit that says it's Bartner and the best in the league up front?


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[Assistant] And we, and we got a second year under Jim Schwartz, and we go and say, well, let me get another linebacker. You think about J.O.K. coming back. Emerson's in his third year. You look like you got a bunch of depth that safety. You got the defensive player of the year coming back, Dalvin Tomlinson. And they, they make their mind up and say, look, we got in Joku and Cooper.


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[Assistant] We gonna do what we can in the draft, cause that person, maybe we got some draft stock. I would almost rather him do this, Jay.


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[Assistant] We gon' package that too and we gon' package that and we gon' go up and get.


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[Assistant] A bona fide, not the second round receiver. I'm talking about first, one of the top three guys on the board.


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[Assistant] If that friend had great ideas, but a lack of funding. Say for instance, he had a really great, great idea, but the engineers was like, listen, it's just to put a broken prototype together for that. That's going to cost you a million dollars.


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[Assistant] You played a dangerous game because you're counting on that kid to come in the camp, pick up the offense.


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[Assistant] Build a reporter to Sean Watson, not get hurt, and then hit the track running against the Ravens and the Bengals, right?


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[Assistant] Juncture of this organization. I'm just letting people know, man. Look, in a couple years they may have to tear it down.


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[Assistant] But I just, I just want to just remember everybody in the chat understand this. Think about how you felt when you used to turn the Browns television on prior to 2017.


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[Assistant] And you used to turn the game on and watch the Browns knowing you had no chance of winning. For two.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's worse than death to me. Like, I, I, I, I, listen, I rail on the Browns a lot, but it can't get no worse than it was back then. And me knowing,


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[Assistant] That there's a chance that because we are in financial areas where we kicking the can down the road and that could be a thing coming back up for a rebuild.


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[Assistant] I gotta, I gotta do whatever it takes to keep my window open, bruh. I ain't got no time to worry about that.


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[Assistant] But what's worse? What's worse? There's the thing. Do you want to be middling? I don't want to be middling and I don't want to be old 16.


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[Assistant] And you could tell us the national media and they're not really plugged into the day in and the day out because they're saying I would like to see how he's going to fit in Kevin Stefanski's offense. You're like, if you don't know buddy, the word around campus around here is Kevin Stefanski, then he ain't calling no plays. So what are you talking about? See what it looks like in his offense.


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[Assistant] What's intoxicating you gotta remember is, all these dudes is chasing, they chasing the unicorn.


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[Assistant] When you started talking about Caleb Williams and Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] They started being like, can we afford to miss out on a guy who, who is a generational player? You start to look at what C.J. Stroud did for the Texans and you say,


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[Assistant] If I could get me one of those guys. Look where we could be at. Look what the text is in you. Always. It's just like, you know, shout out to J. Cole. He said delete your Instagram.


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[Assistant] He said, man, you know why you delete your Instagram? There's all them people you see on Instagram.


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[Assistant] They don't live like that and they sure as heck don't look like that. And it makes you judge what you got at your own house and makes you feel like you ain't got what you


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[Assistant] Like this year, you got Jayden Tangles, you got Drake May, and he's in the mix. This draft reminds me of the Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, and Roethlisberger. Now if you think about it, if you had a blind resume,


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[Assistant] Like, Philip Rivers done thrown for a ton of touchdowns.


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[Assistant] But he doesn't have anything to show for it. Ben Roethlisberger has rings to show for it. Eli Manning has rings to show for it. I think these quarterbacks are kinda...


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[Assistant] In that same little mode where yeaah, you could get a good quarterback, but it just all depends on where they go and how they're going to move and shape if they're going to be successful or not. So.


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[Assistant] Earl, Earl, you gotta, Earl, you gotta get you a nickname, bro. Like, I'm the Duke of New Jersey, but this is great. Listen. Hey. Pass it to Pearl.


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[Assistant] You need a brand, you need some marketing and G Bush will help you market yourself, man. One of the best ways you can adhere yourself to this, this, uh, fan base and to have a breath of fresh air, uh, you know, be infused into this organization is be known as the guy.


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[Assistant] If you come to Cleveland Guardians, this is the place we give young guys an opportunity.


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[Assistant] This is the land of opportunity for the guardians. If you've been in a AAA and maybe you got moves around, we'll give you a shot. I'd rather give Martinez a shot.


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[Assistant] Then somebody already seen a thousand at bats from give me the young guy and get a young guy an opportunity to come take it. You can always go back to the vet. You can always go back to him. But what you do is you give yourself an opportunity to play the young guy. And now you can infuse some of the talent and say, look, well, I'd be interested if I get to show up to the park.


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[Assistant] And they telling me, oh well, we operating our stuff like a 4A, but we still playing major leagues. And before, it was a bad 4A because we develop people, put them in the minors and send them off. The good 4A is we play our guys, develop them, and then give them an opportunity to become superstars.


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[Assistant] Arias, right? Like, so, so, alright, well, here's the thing about Arias. Could you keep him on the roster and platoon him different places? No, I don't think so. I think if, if- Cause they had him at third a little bit last year.


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[Assistant] I think, I think this record's gonna end up, like, pitching records.


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[Assistant] They're not gonna let guys play back to back. So they're not gonna, they're not gonna put an emphasis. They'll be on restriction limit.


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[Assistant] Like innings limits. Guys pitch five, six innings. You'll never be able to see guys go throw back to back shutouts or back to back. They just won't do it. 40,000 is crazy and you'd have to take into consideration you'd almost have to play. He had the perfect storm. You come out in high school so you start when you're 18.


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[Assistant] He started when he was 18, he's almost playing till he's 40.


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[Assistant] So like, somebody like Kevin Durant is nowhere near on this list and Kevin Durant is a bona fide sniper.


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[Assistant] The reason why, Kevin Durant lost a year in college. Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant lost two years, two complete years to injury of his career, uh, getting hurt. So you have to come out of high school, which they don't let you do anymore. You have to have really good health where you don't miss long, uh, you know, time, uh, when you plan.


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[Assistant] And you would actually have to play well and average 25, 20 above into your 40s.


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[Assistant] And have that type of longevity. The record would never be broken because I think the way people play would be different.


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[Assistant] I don't, I just don't like how people gloss over, forget the expectation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was expected to do something like, my expectation of you does not have anything to do with what you are. This man came into the league.


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[Assistant] As known as one of the best passers in a pasture in Magic Johnson, right? And that's his best skill set.


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[Assistant] But that guy with his best skill set being passing is the all-time leading scorer.


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[Assistant] He has more assists than Magic Johnson, the greatest point guard of all time.


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[Assistant] The man is in the top seven steals all time.


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[Assistant] The only person who's hit more three point shots than him in the history of the game is Steph Curry.


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[Assistant] He has more points than people. He also has more rebounds than David Robinson. He has more rebounds than Ben Wallace. And all they did. And that's because of longevity, right? And all they did is rebound. Right. So you're telling me he's the best scorer. He could pass like magic and got more. Some people say magic and bird.


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[Assistant] And he came in and said, I hit more threes than Larry, uh, got more assistant and I got more steals than Gary Payton and Scotty Pippen. That is ridiculous. The stats will never be broken.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's nice man. So what I've been doing is just slow grinding. Shout out to that. Uhm, and I've been doing, uhm, you know, the NHL is a beautiful thing. If you haven't checked out, make sure you go check out the NHL. Two games tonight.


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[Assistant] But here's, they not, see they shouldn't be doing it as smart, right? So like, you know how Sam Mero plays sometimes, but doesn't?


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[Assistant] Like, they just stopped putting Sam Marrow on the joint. Because they're like, if we put Sam Marrow on there, and it's over under nine and a half points.


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[Assistant] Like, some days he doesn't play. We're losing money. So, why would they, like, if he got sick...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm definitely gonna take that man. I'm all about that man. I'm about that like, you know, I need alternate uniforms and everything. So uhm, I like the white face mask. I like the, it's a nice accent piece. Now are they gonna keep those white face masks on the all white helmets? That's great if they do. They should. I like the all white. I love the all white. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Sometimes I, you know, I'll have to just reiterate how devastating uhm, these injuries is, like,


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[Assistant] You know, I've torn my ACL and I tore my MCL and then my patellar tendon and all these, you know what I'm saying? I've had so many knee surgeries that there's a lot of people that don't understand what it entails with that injury.


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[Assistant] You know, there's people who've never had knee injuries and you've never felt what it feels like for them to put like a six, seven inch needle in your knee and drain fluid off your knee like every day.


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[Assistant] And then for them to drain it and then you gotta go practice and they gotta drain it again because you just to wear a tear on it, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, just the, the amount of excruciating pain you were in, just them getting the degrees back, the bending ability, flexibility back in your knee. And sometimes if they don't get it, they hold you down and make that knee go that far at hyperextend. So it's just like crazy the amount of pain.


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[Assistant] You know, when you're walking, every single time you think about making a cut, every single time you think about transitioning from one leg to the other, or if you're jumping, or you're running, or you jump, whatever you do, and accelerate.


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[Assistant] It's in the back of your mind. Am I straight? Am I cool? Is everything gonna be alright with my knee? And so a lot of people, you know, when they talk about Nick Chubb, oh Nick Chubb's a beast, he'll come back. Man.


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[Assistant] Never take that for granted. I know Nick Chubb ain't taking it for granted because, you know, there's a long process right now.


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[Assistant] And this is even a longer process to get him to be football stuff. You know, you could be in one little period for a long period of time, right? Like he's moved past to just getting, you know, back acclimated to walking and running in straight lines. But now's the big running issue. Can you cut?


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[Assistant] And so, you know, for me, I, I, you know, I, I don't take it for granted. I want to see him come back and do his thing. I just hope the Browns slow play, you know what I'm saying? Give them all the time they need. If they need to take four or five games, that's fine too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and by the way, I'm putting them on G. Bush's pup list.


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[Assistant] These are guys that are not going to be playing during the playoffs, or excuse me, during the preseason.


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[Assistant] He's one for two except now. You crazy. He could work it out the first two games in Brazil.


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[Assistant] Sure can. You can. It's possible. And his girl is gone.


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[Assistant] See, see how, that's what you can do when you're on the radio network. Just go to the building. You just in there, huh? Just pull up. I was working. Pull up.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's great, man. Did you get us some intel? Unless he just spilt it for us, I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] He didn't come back until week four, I believe, uh, against the Chicago Bears, I think he played.


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[Assistant] Week three or four, somewhere in that timetable. And I think Kevin Stefanski will keep that same energy. I think you won't see him very often.


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[Assistant] You'll see him week four or something. Uhm, the goal, like you said, is to get him running in playoffs. Like, to get him running at the end of the year when everybody else is beat down a little bit. Now you got a fresh Nick Chubb to do your thing with too. So yeaah, I think about week three, four maybe.


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[Assistant] He's one of the three guys I had listed. Heinz 57, you know what it is man, that secret sauce.


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[Assistant] If you build a t-shirt on that, just give me 25%. Nah, I don't need all that. Highest 57? The highest 57 sauce, you know what it is. Ayy, I'ma tell you what.


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[Assistant] These don't get an opportunity, and it seems like the Browns had some uhm, some inside info on it, some insider trading. Because I was confused when they signed him, because I was like, well he's more of a special teams guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's more of a guy like, you know what I'm saying, but kickoffs, and lo and behold, kickoffs is back in the game. And you got a guy that is one of the better guys in the league at doing it. And I think this is what's great about competition and diversity. The NFL basically looked at what the XFL was doing and said, man, you know what, that might actually work.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be, uh, you know, saying hip drop time. We gotta come up with something better than that, cause it gets kinda- Hip drop, yeaah. I don't like the thought. I mean, you dropping your hips on another- it's crazy. Like, I don't like that. Hip drop time is just too extra.


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[Assistant] I appreciate that. I'm just saying, you gotta figure out another way here at UCSS to describe that play without saying hip drop. So like, but no, I think what you're gonna get is the unintended consequences of this and it's unfortunate. Uhm, look at, look at, uh, go back and look at a couple of years ago, Gronk and T.J. Ward. Yes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, was, was a monster. He was barreling down on people. Uhm, but Grock was so big and powerful that he would carry you down the field if you couldn't tackle him one on one. So what people started to do was, I'ma just hit him low. And yeaah, think about it.


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[Assistant] They're, they talk about defensive players all the time. The one hit that you don't see with defensive players is the throw down the seam and they hit the guy low while they're catching the ball.


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[Assistant] Players try not to do that, right? Yeaah. But nowadays, now what you're gonna see is, well I can't, I can't horse collar you.


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[Assistant] I can't have a defenseless player helmet to helmet. I can't hit you with the crown of my helmet. Uhm, I can't hit you, you know, within a certain, I can't even put my hands, illegal hands are holding. So now when you catch a slam, and you already positioned behind a guy,


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[Assistant] In what way are you going to be able to tackle him with his momentum going forward and your momentum trailing. Now you have to try to hit his ankles or hit his legs. That's the only way you can do it. And now,


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[Assistant] Guys are going low. Guys are going to be hitting knees, ankles and all that good stuff and you're going to have a lot of blown out knees. That's just the unintended consequences. Guys are going to still get you in the ground. It's about the collateral damage, how you want it.


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[Assistant] You, you, you want the hip drag or you want that helmet on the knee? I'll take the hip drag.


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[Assistant] I, I, I still don't quite understand it. Like, you know, the NFL be saying stuff like, oh, we gonna get rid of this play because people be getting hurt. No.


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[Assistant] You're not really worried about that. You're just worried about getting sued. Yes. They don't, that's not like. Yes, you're right. Like, and you got, you didn't get sued because players got concussions or players got injured. You got sued because you withheld information about


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[Assistant] CTE and concussions in the role of the players after you play football.


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[Assistant] That's what you got sued for. You didn't get sued for some guy getting hurt on kickoff.


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[Assistant] So like, I, like, I never quite understood, like, why are you guys, like, really eliminating this play when it's one of the most exciting plays in the game, it's one of the most transition, it's, it's a great way to separate.


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[Assistant] And give another team an advantage about special teams. Like we always talked about offense, defense, and special teams. When you get rid of things, you devalue one, one third of what football is about the special teams because you're taking the kickoff out of it. So I'm, I'm glad to see his back. Um, hopefully we can get some, some XFL type.


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[Assistant] You know, this is obviously the Deshaun Watson pendulum. We all know what it is.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we've, we've been privy to national, you know, pundits and national outlets that, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, if Deshaun Watson is starting, they're not going to put him over six wins. We've heard it time and time again. Don't know what you're going to get from him. Think he's going to be below average. I don't know what he's going to do. Six wins for the Browns. I don't even want to cover the Browns.


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[Assistant] It's laughable, it's nonsensical. We had backup quarterbacks, PJ Walker, DTR, rookies that never played, Joe Flacco, Kane, you know. We made the playoffs last year.


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[Assistant] Matter of fact, we came, we had the second best record in the division. As a matter of fact, when you look at our record going into the playoffs, it was better than some of the people who had home run playoff games.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, the Browns, if you look at free agency, brought everybody back, right? They even improved their wide receiver core, which was a weakness of theirs. They bolstered the running back room. They go back and get guys, they get better in the return game. They signed all of their secondary back, right?


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[Assistant] I don't understand how you come in and say eight and a half wins. That's just the thing. That's, that's the one of those things where the Browns aren't going to get a benefit of the doubt until Deshaun Watson comes back and has a year.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then people will be all in our, our, our jock and be like, oh my gosh. Well, you know, the reason why Deshawn was much better that last year. So the Browns are cool now. It's okay to say you guys are good, but until we do that, they're going to give us that.


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[Assistant] What goes wrong, G. Bush? They're still an 8-1 team. Never listen to somebody.


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[Assistant] Who is emotional to a point where they say, I don't like this person so therefore I'm going to predict that they're going to play bad. I'll give you a great case.


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[Assistant] Ben Roethlisberger was accused of a lottery to zip for stuff that Deshaun Watson was.


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[Assistant] But, every year, as a Browns fan, you knew Ben Roethlisberger was gonna throw for 4,500 yards, you knew what he was gonna do, and you know the Steelers were formidable. Nobody was saying, oh my gosh, he did this off the field, I'm gonna pick the Steelers to win six games. That's asinine, that's stupid.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people that get emotionally caught up and stuff and for you to get emotionally caught up and say eight and a half wins, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] They won eight and a half wins with tackles off the street. They won 11 games with tackles off the street.


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[Assistant] To speak about, David and Joker was the second guy. Both the tackles were, oh my god, minimal ski. And you, you had a rookie running back. Like, I mean, I don't understand, like, why people think, like,


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[Assistant] You know, like, all of a sudden, they're not gonna be better with all those injuries and assuming that they get guys back healthy. But it's all good though, man.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I keep going back to it. There's a lot of people that just don't like Deshaun Watson, man.


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[Assistant] They can disregard it. I don't worry about it. It was a lot of fluctuation. He's doing the best he can. They need to move on. If they don't like you, you're the president.


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[Assistant] There's a certain, there's a faction of people, when, here's how I knew it wasn't ever coming back.


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[Assistant] These dudes be sitting there like, they be like, that is not a thing. Like I just be wondering, at no circumstances is that a thing when you have surgery.


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[Assistant] Nobody on that team is worried about you being on the sideline, not one coach. Y'all guys gotta, this is what I'm telling you. The problem is they should make fans go to boot camps.


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[Assistant] No one needs to go to the locker room when they're injured and pump their team up. This is not who's use. This is not Rudy. Stop it. We need to put y'all through classes.


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[Assistant] It's fine, I understand. I'm glad all the smokers come, they beat us enough in the past. I don't have no- Denver. Denver. I don't have no sympathy for anybody that's been to a Super Bowl, so all of y'all can kick rocks.


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[Assistant] Dashaun, I'm telling you right now, look William in camera 3. Listen, hey bro, I need, I need celebrations. I got jewelry on.


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[Assistant] I need you. That's how cocky I need you. Go out there and get a Sean Taylor iridescent shield and wear it during the game. I need all of that. Take the, take the penalties, take the flags and we celebrate and I need the bow and arrow. I need the rock and roll guitar. I need all that after every play. Get with Greg Newsome.


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[Assistant] 47 gets all the haters out of off the sticks. 47 and any 35, 36 touchdowns? You're an all-pro.


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[Assistant] Back to back 50 win seasons is something that, you know, in this league is something to be proud of. This core is continuing to grow together. And, uh, I just truly believe that, uh, you know, these guys are gonna, you know, have a championship aspirations down the line. We just have to be patient.


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[Assistant] Don't even try it, Kobe. Cause I'ma tell them to rewind this tape early and you already know what it is. They could possibly get to the 50 wins.


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[Assistant] We ain't looking for none of that. Like we, listen, LeBron James, listen, again, I just wanna let y'all know, it's not like we haven't been here. LeBron James won 66 wins here.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. 66. You know how, that's like watching TV every game and they never lose. We see that. So.