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[Assistant] It's so fascinating that different philosophies that coaches have on this too. Cause Patrick Mahomes threw the ball 19 times against Washington last game. Got a question here from Nick D. Panfales say, I think losing Tyreek Hill has made Patrick better at reading the defense and spreading


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[Assistant] We have seen it before, Deshaun Watson, when he lost DeAndre Hopkins, there was some question whether he was going to be as good, and in some respects he got better. He did, he did. The team didn't win as much.


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[Assistant] Is that you liked in the draft process? You've already talked a lot about George Karloftis on this podcast. Jerry Charles says, is George Karloftis the best rookie defender this preseason? You also had some love for Leo Chanel from Wisconsin, correct? Took him in the third round. So some rookies on the defensive side for the Chiefs are popping right now.


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[Assistant] That feeling that you're having for the Chiefs right now, probably not shared by Washington.


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[Assistant] But I think the Chiefs basically got every third down they wanted when Patrick Mahomes was in there. A lot of their studs did play too. I mean, not all of them, but a lot of them did. And they, they could not slow down.


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[Assistant] So what do you think about what's going on at running back for them? Cause that's been a big story. Antonio Gibson had such a good year last year, figured he would be the starter this year. Uh, he has not gotten a whole lot of run, which you can't read too much into that, but when he has had the touches, six rushes this year in the preseason, just five yards where Brian Robinson, 14 rushes.


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[Assistant] 57 rush yards, one of the big things too is I think Antonio Gibson ran back a kick to playing on special teams.


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[Assistant] Which is not necessarily a great sign if you're the starting guy running back. What's going on there in the backfield?


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[Assistant] Howell played again for them a little bit. Ball security, you speak of that. He had an interception in the game. Justin Fields, his rookie year last year, you were impressed with a lot of things you saw with him last year. Don't know if the team around him.


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[Assistant] Yeah. He's built for him to succeed this year, but he played in the preseason game against the Seahawks, completed five of his seven passes, took off for one yard on the ground there. But what did you see when you look at Justin Fields in this offense?


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[Assistant] For sure. Um, so stay safe out there, homies. Uh, so yeah, we transitioned over there to Gino Smith. So.


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[Assistant] The haters are out there. The haters are always gonna say, he's just not a guy who's going to win you games. Maybe he'll prevent you from losing, but he's not gonna wow me out there. And he's kinda boring. Can't we find something that's at least more exciting? Who knows if it's better or worse.


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[Assistant] It won't be very good. There's a lot of other reasons that are issues there. You mentioned Charles Cross. Yeah. Jumping off sides a few times. Right. Rookie first round pick. You were high on him. You were high on Ikea Quanu. You were high on Evan Neil. I heard you talk about Evan Neil last time when you were going through your notes by yourself. Right. Solo. Ripping through notes here.


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[Assistant] They've all struggled a little bit this year. Yeah. And so as we kind of move over to the Panthers here, they took on the Patriots and they had some joint practices there that we'll get into. Let's just start there. Cause yeah, you said cross doesn't look great. A Quanu maybe doesn't look great against Joshua Uche in the game and then Neil. So what's, what's.


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[Assistant] What's going on here, because I feel like the idea with these offensive linemen that can't miss, ready to play, will contribute to your team from snap number one.


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[Assistant] 1054 wants to be positive about his Panthers. He wants something to grab a hold of early this year. Cause last year was a disappointing year. Good start. And then it was just like, ah, this is frustrating to watch. He goes, once upon a time you said the Patriots scheduled teams they feared for joint practices. Does that mean the league should worry about the Panthers because Bill scheduled them for a joint


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[Assistant] The training camp, and we've talked about that before. Uhm, Matt Corral did play a little bit in this game, and then had to leave, got his foot stepped on, now he's gonna probably miss the year because of that Liz Frank injury, which is a total bummer. Matt Corral was 9 of 15 in the game, just 58 yards, so not a whole lot of production. Got a question here from Jonathan Choi.


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[Assistant] He says based on what you've seen so far, would you make any adjustment to your draft rankings for quarterbacks?


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[Assistant] And you didn't follow us all draft season. Shame on you. Cause that's a fun time. Chris is doing so much work, even more work than maybe during the season. Number one he had Matt Carell out of Ole Miss, number two Malik Willis out of Liberty, three was Kenny Pickett, then Sam Howell and Desmond Ritter. So you would do, what would you change?


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[Assistant] It does almost feel like Tandil is on shakier footing right now. And Morgan, who runs our social media, always hanging around with the podcast, helping us on this venture. She was around their camp. She was going around with Peter King. She mentioned to us just before the podcast here today that he already kind of acts the part of that leader, of a guy that people


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[Assistant] Traylon Burks had three targets in the game, just caught one of them for four yards. Did you see anything from him?


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[Assistant] I kinda wanna go through, I wanna get all the tough names. Oh, that's a name. Cause a lot of them are on the defensive line. You're right. Right, too. And I wanna learn them. Okay. Because there are some very difficult names out there. That could be a fun segment.


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[Assistant] Yes, but we want to pause for a quick update. Station identification? Station identification, yea, for all of our local stations to identify themselves. Uh, do they even do that anymore? Every now and then I feel like you see one on a football game. They do? Pete's saying they do that every once in a while now.


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[Assistant] Station identification. On the radio. It's more of a radio thing now than a TV thing. Right. Uh, this is from 7th Evan.


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[Assistant] He says, how are the weed withdrawals? So it's a detox update here. He goes, has it affected your sleep at all? So it sounds like he's speaking from experience.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, we got a pronunciation for the titan from the titans. Okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, have you replaced the weed though with more alcohol? Cause maybe that's why you're still not remembering stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we'll do a smoke-a-thon. We'll raise money for me to swear and smoke. Uh, alright, so I'm going to skip down here, Pete, real quick, because we're kind of talking about these rookie quarterbacks. Kenny Pickett. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do this, Steelers. You've already talked a little bit about him on a previous podcast. Your dad liked what he saw from him. Uh, there as well. Drobe says, would love to hear your thoughts on Kenny Pickett's quarterback's performance so far.


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[Assistant] You've said he's awesome. He continues to impress.


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[Assistant] Maybe you're finally gonna have to reconsider your prejudice against players who wear a glove, quarterbacks who wear a glove.


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[Assistant] I almost feel like they're your tea. You almost have to put that steak in the ground.


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[Assistant] I'm curious to see what Travis ETN does, cause I'm thinking about taking him in my fantasy league. I gotta find Matthew Barry in the hallway, uhm, and see what he thinks about him.


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[Assistant] People in Houston are hoping that the Texans surprise some people in that same division. Who knows? Davis Mills had a pretty surprising year last year. He impressed. His production was better than maybe what we thought it would be with the tools that he had. Although, as you noted, there were some weapons on that team last year. Yep. Hennessy Black wants to know, does Davis Mills have it or not? Capital I-T.


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[Assistant] So still not sold on Davis Mills. You were not sold on Derrick Stingley Jr. in the draft process. The defensive back ended up going number three overall.


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[Assistant] Did he still have that ability? When he did play, it wasn't quite as good as it was in 2019, but maybe he's returning to that form. And they could have a pretty good secondary here because they also took Jalen Petrie in the second round. Did you see him at all out there?


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[Assistant] You got some good with a little bit of a bad there. Here's the real question. Dolphins fans, we know they don't like you. And they probably never will. Like even now if you go and say that you love Tua. Cause you've said positive things about him and the football team in the past. But I think they're past the point where they want to forgive you here.


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[Assistant] The real false prophet. Right. Says, can you shed some light onto us? Specifically the pass to Edmonds instead of the guy over the middle. Right. Don't know if you saw that play. It was a third and three. Yes. Cedric Wilson was wide open over the middle. Two went to Edmonds in the flat.


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[Assistant] New coaching staff too, offensive minded, so they can open some things up even maybe without the talent, but they certainly have the talent there.


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[Assistant] Close enough. We'll work on it. We'll work on that. Uh, so Tua?


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[Assistant] He's got some, he's got some big, he's got some positive signs for sure.


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[Assistant] So, you were positive on Kellen Mond, coming out of the draft a couple years ago, has not had a whole lot of opportunity, but in the preseason he has.


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[Assistant] Uh, we do have some breaking news with the Vikings. Did you see this? I didn't just till right now. I'm seeing it. The Vikings have traded for Nick Mullins. Yeah. So Kelly Craig says, I want to believe in our guy Mond.


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[Assistant] But what do you make of his second preseason performance? Love the pod. Thank you, Kelly. So, wasn't great, now you made a trade. Right. Is this the beginning of the end?


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[Assistant] And the Vikings didn't give up a whole bunch for Nick Mullins. Pete notes here, just a conditional seventh round pick in 2024 going to the Raiders for Nick Mullins. Maybe just a little insurance there, but you mentioned it already, the 49ers.


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[Assistant] And how they looked and specifically Jevon Kinlaw, which is good to see coming off that knee injury last year. You were high on him coming into the NFL, um, got hurt, didn't really pop before then.


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[Assistant] So this is Kirk Garda says, is it getting a little crowded on Kinlaw Island between the shirtless Kinlaw video walking off the practice field and the Vikings game sack? Everyone's moving in. They are.


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[Assistant] Someone wants to know about the rookies here too, with the 49ers. Ya boi Elroy. Not someone, why'd I call him someone? Ya boi Elroy. Ya boi Elroy is a constant.


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[Assistant] Oh, El Ray, sorry. Oh, maybe we got two of them. Is there an El Roy? Do we have that guy too? Or is this, I think it's the same man. Yeah, boy. El Ray coming out. Hey, El Ray coming off their second NFC championship game in three seasons. Is it surprising how much the 49ers rookies are poised to contribute this season? Their first five draft picks going to get significant snaps this year. Yeah. Well, Shanahan's got


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[Assistant] Let's hit this Packers Saints thing real quick. Packers Saints to end it, to finish it right here. Our Hail Mary. Alright, Packers, you kind of want us to talk specifically Packers defense versus the Saints offense, correct? Yes, a little bit.


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[Assistant] He needs to work on some of the blocking of the speed rushers is what he knows there.


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[Assistant] You might be Thomas Penna. Thomas Penna and you might be the same person.


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[Assistant] We'll see where it goes. Like you mentioned, there's a lot going on in this building right now. There is. It's good. It's good news. It is good news. But I'll be here. I'll be sitting at the desk. Whether you're here and there's a control room and Kristen's able to do it, we'll see.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, is that in that podcast, you told people, you go, don't listen to my picks. You go, don't listen to what I say around the picks. Don't go with my picks. And so maybe, they did the opposite.


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[Assistant] Uhm, with the Chiefs and the 49ers. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to Christian McCaffrey here in this game. We're gonna talk about Gino. Yeah. Gino Smith in the Seattle offense. Right. Kenneth Walker, what you saw from there. Yep. Uh, Zach Wilson, you took a closer look at Zach.


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[Assistant] Back when we talked on Monday, you ripped Jets fans, you know, get off the back of Zach Wilson. Right. So you're like, let me just make sure I'm right. Yeah. And so let me go look at Zach a little bit. And you found some interesting things. Yeah, yeah. Benchum, put in white, put in Flacco. Trevor Lawrence, uh, the Bucs run defense. What has happened there?


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[Assistant] Uh, the bears, we'll talk about them. We also got the, the pun awards, the big butt awards. We got stats that may be lying to us, truth or lie. So.


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[Assistant] It's like a jumpsuit then, although sometimes you've worn a jumpsuit and it's looked okay.


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[Assistant] And you try to find these hidden gems that emerge once you look play by play through the all 22


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[Assistant] You've talked about the 49ers kinda playing basic, you know, our guys are better than your guys, we're not gonna do too much out there, so.


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[Assistant] Did they just play it too bland and did Patrick Mahomes carve it up because of that? What did you see from the film?


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[Assistant] They've done this in the past too. This is nothing new, but they've got all the speed sweeps and the screens as well. And so it's like short, long. Mini Smitty wants to know from you, seems like the Chiefs have started utilizing Juju and MVS a lot more. Is this from them designing plays to fit their strengths or Mahomes getting more in sync with them?


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[Assistant] So you've gushed about the Chiefs in the past. You've gushed about Patrick Mahomes. I don't know that I've ever heard you gush. Like that right there, right? This much. Yea, I mean like, are they looking as good as they have ever looked to you?


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[Assistant] So to beat the Chiefs, you're just going to have to score more points than the Chiefs, and maybe it's an offensive game, and they would have needed to score 45 in this one to beat them, so looking at the 49ers offense, who knows, maybe they have that ability down the road here, because now they have Christian McCaffrey, who was what, with the team for two days before he played in this game, played quite a bit.


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[Assistant] Aprez goes, does the CMC trade solve any glaring issues? You just mentioned that it helps him, gives him more options. It does. Does it solve any problems that the 49ers had, or is this just a luxury?


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[Assistant] So the question will be, can Jimmy Garoppolo pull it all off? Is he the weak link? And so we have his passing chart from week 7 versus the Chiefs here.


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[Assistant] And they're just getting started with Christian McCaffrey right now. It'll get better. I want to get the final thing. I want to get your comment on the comments from Brandon Ayuk.


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[Assistant] After the game, he goes, I just feel like we got too many people, too many people that can change the game to score 23 points. People can ask about the defense, but at the end of the day, we got to put up more points than the other team. That's how I feel. So Das Bottlem says,


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[Assistant] Following the IU comment yesterday, does it mean that Shanahan is beginning to lose the locker room? It was clearly a shot at Jimmy and Kyle.


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[Assistant] Not often that you can have a get right game as your next game versus the.


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[Assistant] Team that won the Super Bowl last year, but that's what it is for the 49ers. They have handled the Rams lately. They won in week four, 24 to nine. So now they'll have a full week with Christian McCaffrey. I mean, it's tough to run on Aaron Donald in that defense, but that should be interesting to see what they can do.


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[Assistant] The 49ers, but they don't have Christian McCaffrey, a guy they wanted to get for this game, probably specifically. And now they'll have to figure out a way to slow him down. Last thing on that game, the Holmes is amazing.


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[Assistant] We gotta make sure that everybody knows that. And it almost, we take it for granted sometimes.


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[Assistant] We'll do that in the Big Butt of the Week Awards. Every week we give two big butts, two trophies. This guy's got a big butt for sure. Two elephant trophies. So we'll start on the defensive line with the defensive tackle Big Butt of the Week, and that goes to the Kansas City Chiefs, Chris Jones, a couple sacks, a forced fumble.


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[Assistant] And he has the second most pressures in the NFL for a defensive tackle behind Quinnon Williams, who was a big butt of the week award winner previously. Uh, Chris Jones has been awesome and you mentioned on Monday, I mean, he probably should be in the defensive player of the year conversation.


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[Assistant] Career high, or it was a season high in snaps, 80% of the snaps, in fact...


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[Assistant] Mike McDaniel made a point to say, because I think he played, what was it, 26 of the 30 snaps in the fourth quarter. Right. When they were on the field a ton, this Dolphins team against the Steelers. He said, uh, the effort late in the game speaks to the conditioning and other positive attributes of Jalen Phillips. Uh, he remains on the ascent. And so he's got that. He's got the positive praise of his coach and he's got a big butt of the week award.


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[Assistant] It was, well done. Big Bud of the Week award winner. You look at the, uh, yeaah, there's the, oh there it is, right there. So, Chris Jones, Jalen Phillips.


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[Assistant] Clip that off. Pete send that to me. I'll tweet that out and tag them and they'll be so happy when I do that. I'll be like, it'll go viral.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Pittsburgh Steelers against that Miami Dolphins defense, maybe you'll look at that and you're like, how did they score a touchdown? I think we would have said the same thing maybe against the Bears, or the Bears offense against the Patriots defense, as I try to do kind of like some sort of a transition right there. I don't know if that worked at all.


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[Assistant] Do that. Pete, take that out of the podcast. It made sense in my head for like a half a second. Um, but now it doesn't. So, hey, let's switch gears now. Yeah, that's a bet. Oh, look at this guy. What a professional you are. No, the point I was trying to make is like, if the bears got shut out in this game or if they scored one touchdown and be like, yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.


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[Assistant] They did not on Monday against the Patriots. That's what I was trying to say. 33 to 14 was the final score. Tim Kelly wants to know what we all want to know.


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[Assistant] Can you break down how a lackluster one-dimensional Bears offense with minimal offensive weapons was able to pop against a Pats defense that had been elite the last few weeks?


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[Assistant] Well and to your point about the offensive line maybe being underrated for the Bears, uh, Herbert is fifth in yards before contact per attempt, three and a half yards down the field.


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[Assistant] And then you can kinda trust your best players, too, to make up for it. Be like, hey, you might be on an island here, or you might be put in a tough spot, but you think we're gonna take a chance here. That's a very valid point. So now the final question is moving forward for the Chicago Bears. Let's take a look at Justin Fields and what they did. You've already mentioned it multiple times, the designed runs in this play, and it was really something that they had not done


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[Assistant] A whole lot the first six weeks of the season and really had done with zero success. You see they did it 21 times, designed runs for Justin Fields. Yeah. Weeks one through six.


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[Assistant] Just 17 total yards, 0.8 yards per rush. Against the Patriots, 12 times, 55 yards, 4.6. Did they figure something out there and is this something that you see them doing from this point forward?


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[Assistant] Who would have ever guessed that we would have fewer questions about the game that the


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[Assistant] Bears quarterback had than the game that the Patriots quarterbacks had in this one. You gotta chime in on it.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Jones vs. Zappi. Right. You looked at the film. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't a whole lot for Jones to look at.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny is that I was looking through the stats, uh, on Tuesday, and actually,


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[Assistant] New England's passing offense has not been a total disaster this year. They're passing offense yards per play.


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[Assistant] Passing yards per play. Fifth in the NFL. 7.61 yards per play.


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[Assistant] The problem is they've thrown a lot of picks. They have the worst interception percentage in the NFL. That's the shocking thing. And Jay Croucher, you know our friend Jay Croucher, his line on the Bet the Edge podcast yesterday, he goes, he goes, Bailey Zappi's TD was a worse throw than Max INT. I mean, it was.


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[Assistant] People still have those questions for Mac and EF Drag says, have you changed your opinion of Mac Jones? His pocket awareness seems to have regressed. So you still think, you know, he's better than Bailey Zappi. Yes. But in the past year and a half, has your opinion of Mac, do you see more red flags with him? Are you worried about him at all?


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[Assistant] Cowboys are gonna do that to the Bears, for sure. Exactly. I wonder if the Bears can do what they did to the Patriots, to the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] When, uh, this game started and they go back to a team that can score one touchdown.


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[Assistant] It was the Vikings. And we talk a lot about, uh, uh, the Vikings. Are they good? How are they so good? They're five in one. Should they be five in one? Get this. So...


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[Assistant] The Vikings average starting position this year is their own 32 yard line. That is the best in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Other teams' average starting position against the Vikings is at the 24 yard line. That is the furthest back in the NFL. So they're basically the best in both of those field position categories. Their punter is Ryan White, who has 27 punts, 15 inside the 20. He has no touchbacks. I mean, when you're talking about a game razor thin margins,


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[Assistant] That's a huge deal. The Vikings are the number one field position team in the NFL right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Pete's saying that, uh, that impression is not accurate. He may have said that, but it was not in that tone or pitch. Uh, his punter of the week is Jets punter, Brayden Mann.


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[Assistant] Third year punter took full advantage of the mile high air there in Denver. Eight punts. One went for 65 yards. Another one for 72. And one was returned for just two yards. That was the only return. So punter of the week. And that was a game where field position mattered. Yeaah. And defense mattered. And special teams mattered. So.


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[Assistant] And they helped victories, helped get victories for their teams there, the Jets and the Commanders. Congratulations. Now it is time, speaking of the Jets, we go into the fan therapy part of the podcast here. This is fan therapy. You gave Jets fans a little bit of it. Yeah. Although I don't know if that was therapy more, it was like tough love. Yeah, it was more tough love. Right. But now it's like, Hey,


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[Assistant] Sit down, Jets fans. We took a look at Zach Wilson for you, uh, with the Jets big win over the Denver Broncos. So you yelled at Jets fans if you were not with us on Monday because they were, they got a win. They should be happy. You're like, just be happy. Enjoy life. Jets fans. But yet they were talking on the radio and you heard some people on the radio and fans talking to you at the gym.


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[Assistant] I got concerns with Zach Wilson. I don't know if we can be what we want to be with Zach Wilson and the way he plays. So you got mad at them. You go enjoy him. But you wanted to go back and look at every play.


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[Assistant] And every throw from Zach Wilson, and you literally did that. Your notes are like first drive, second drive, third drive.


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[Assistant] Were you right? Were Jets fans crazily overreacting, and did Zach Wilson have a decent game?


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[Assistant] Jetfella says, I love your support of Zach Wilson and agree he's gotten plenty of undeserved criticism. However, this was not a good game and he did sail several throws way off the mark.


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[Assistant] I think there's one red flag for him. It is how he's handled the pressure this season. I think we have a graphic on that. So no pressure, he's been great. Yeah. When he has, you know, quote unquote clean pocket, no one in his face. Uh, 76% he's got a quarterback rating of 108. That is the seventh best.


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[Assistant] In the NFL with no pressure, but when he has some pressure, he's completing just 16% of his passes. His quarterback rating is 12.7. That's the second worst under pressure. What do you make of that?


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[Assistant] Well it actually makes that graphic we just showed better for Zach Wilson, right? It's like when you can protect him and give him a clean pocket, even playing against those defenses.


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[Assistant] A sneak peek behind the curtain. So if you're watching on YouTube or if you're watching on Peacock, here are the curse of notes from Chris Sims. He took a picture. You see a shadow this week because his hand was in the way of the light and so it made it even more difficult.


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[Assistant] So to read them, yea, Pete confirms that it was very difficult. And there you go, at the bottom of your notes, F off.


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[Assistant] WFAN Jets fans. Yes. Even in your notes, you were trying to tell them to just...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, that was it. That was basically it right there. So tweet at us. How many of those words could you read? I wanna know. I'm curious right now.


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[Assistant] So, you wanna give some love to one player on the Broncos defense that you think might be the best at his position.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Pete was just making sure the Jets fans didn't get on your back for another.


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[Assistant] Uh, reason one of their players is actually good and they're supporting him. Uh, so support, uh, Zach Wilson now because Zach Wilson is always going to be.


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[Assistant] A hot button topic for you because you ranked him ahead of Trevor Lawrence back when they were both coming out of college and you still like both those quarterbacks to this day. You like Trevor Lawrence, but we wanted to take just a little bit of a closer look at his performance against your G-Men 23-17.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the final in case you were just not around and for some reason that's Wednesday and didn't still know the score. Wanted to give that to you. Trevor Lawrence!


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[Assistant] And then he just started playing poorly or missing some throws. And so we want to take a look at another loss and how much of this falls on the shoulders of Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Trevor Lawrence, this current, uh, iteration of him. Yeaah. How he's currently playing. Right. I don't know. Yeaah. I don't know why it took me so long to think of that. So, this Trevor Lawrence, is he like 15 to 20? Quarterback in the NFL, whereas you feel like he can be, if he reaches his peak, he's a top 10 quarterback. Yeaah, definitely.


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[Assistant] It's a little inconsistent at times where he'll lose it when he throws his fastball, you know, uh, noted there. But maybe he'll get some help from the guys around him because when you were watching the tape, you saw Travis ETN and I think you really liked what you saw.


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[Assistant] All right, we started with maybe the best offense in the NFL and the Kansas City Chiefs. We're going to end with maybe the second best offense, the Seattle Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Taking on the chargers. Uh, so we wanted to take a closer look at this one.


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[Assistant] Because we just want to see how they're, how are they doing it? How is it all happening? And there was something that stuck out to me that you wrote in your notes. Can I just read what you wrote here because I thought it was, and I want to hear your answer to this. You go, you watch the Seahawks, you cannot help but think, was Russell Wilson holding them back?


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[Assistant] Unusual suspects, right? You were sitting there and you're like, what if Russ has not been good his whole career and your cup drops and crashes on the floor and... Look at you. You know, it's one movie representation. I was gonna say, like, what are you, who are you? Yeah.


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[Assistant] It is, it is, oh, I'm sorry, yeaah, if you haven't seen the movie, I, I just, yes, fast forward right now. Uhm, alright, so how is this offense different for Gino then? What exactly has happened?


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[Assistant] Love the pod, Chris and Ahmed. How did Charles Cross look against Khalil Mack?


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[Assistant] And they lost it with Rashad Penny when he was injured for the season. But now they have Kenneth Walker. He is the featured guy. You almost wonder maybe, you know, it'd be nice to have another guy back up too as the year goes on. But I wonder now with Kenneth Walker as the feature back. I wonder if they're even more dangerous. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Within average, deep center, deep right, he's above average, kinda intermediate left and center. The only places he's below average, worse than average, probably doesn't matter that much, is slightly below average, right around the line of scrimmage. So, they're just not doing that as much, they're, they're stressing teams out deeper.


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[Assistant] And now they gotta try to do it against the very difficult Giants defense. If you're the Giants and you're Wink Martindale, who do you try to slow down? Kenneth or Gino? I know.


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[Assistant] Well, you were critical of the Jaguars, not the Jaguars, but the Chargers offense too. I mean, this has become a dink and dunk offense, which I think one person tweeted me, they were like, what is dink and dunk? And that just means you're just short little passes running back, you know, right around the line of scrims.


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[Assistant] BetMGM wants us to talk about the Seahawks, and we are glad to do that. So the futures, thanks to BetMGM,


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[Assistant] This is interesting because what will the Seahawks end up now? They're four and three right now, right? That's the record. Right. And what are they currently? Where are they in the division? They're atop it? Top. First in the division. First by half a game. Okay, so here we go. The odds...


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[Assistant] Over-under, win total, seven and a half, so they'd have to get four more wins from now until the end of the season to get the over on that one. To make the playoffs, they're plus 200. To win the NFC West, they're plus 500 still.


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[Assistant] They're behind the Rams, they're behind the 49ers, 49ers still favored to win the division, Rams second choice, but now you got the Seahawks third choice by quite a bit, plus 500 compared to the Rams plus 165. Uh, Gino, comeback player of the year.


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[Assistant] Where did he come back from? Just not playing. Right. He didn't write back. Plus 450. Yeah, that's right. He never, yeah. Right back player of the year. And ooh, Kenneth Walker has also shown up here as offensive rookie of the year at plus 200. He is now the favorite after Breece Hall's injury. So let's go to the team specific ones right there. I mean, do you like the Seahawks to


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[Assistant] Go over? Seven and a half? Maybe make the playoffs? I don't know. Where are we at here?


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[Assistant] The action never stops. No it does not. At BethMGM. You can sign up now using the bonus code Sims. Your first wager is risk free. Up to $1,000, Chris.


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[Assistant] You lost. Imagination money, but I lost again. A lot has been made about the offense and Tom Brady and why is it, why is it going so poorly? We wanted to look at the defense though.


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[Assistant] Because this is strange and let's take a look at the graphic here because that run defense has been so good the past few seasons. So 2019 best in the NFL, 2020 best in the NFL, 2021 third best in the NFL. This is all yards allowed per game. This season, they're allowing 118 yards per game. That is mid pack tied for 16th.


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[Assistant] In the NFL, so you took a look at it, a closer look at it, a team that no longer has Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] But yet they ran all over him. Yeaah. With Chuba Hubbard and uh, and Deontay Foreman.


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[Assistant] What happened? What's going on with the Bucks defense? Why can't they stop teams with a run? What'd the tape tell you?


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[Assistant] This, we'll get into next week. It's, uh, so the last few minutes here, we'll just go stats, truth or lie. I've brought up a couple of times I was looking at all the numbers because I wanted to pour over some numbers here and we like on this podcast to take a look at the numbers and take them all with a grain of salt because they're all


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[Assistant] Depended on many things, context or what not. So Chris, you ready here? I'm ready. Here are some stats and I want you to tell us if these stats are lying to us or if they're telling us the truth. Okay. Are you ready?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we'll show that. That's right. Alright, so the Colts made a big move, said, Matt Ryan, thanks for your services, you can watch the rest of the season from the bench. The stats are telling us though,


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[Assistant] That the Colts actually had a league average offense with Matt Ryan. They were 16th in total yards per game with 341. Are the stats telling us the truth or were they lying to us and telling us that their offense actually wasn't that bad with Matt Ryan?


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[Assistant] Well I got that too, and you're exactly right. They were 27th in yards per play. They were 30th in rushing yards per game. And so they just were throwing, I mean like you mentioned it, they were throwing 60 times or 50 times with Matt Ryan's arm and not that productive.


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[Assistant] Alright, here's my favorite team right now. The Las Vegas Raiders. They're my favorite. They're like my pick to be like, they're gonna make a run here and people are gonna be talking about them.


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[Assistant] As a dangerous playoff team. The stats are telling us that the Raiders have the second most productive offense in the NFL. They are second in the NFL with 2.68 points per drive. Chiefs are first with 3 points per drive.


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[Assistant] Raiders are second. And also the Raiders, 54% of their drives end in a score that's the best in the NFL. So, are the stats telling us the truth?


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[Assistant] Sounds pretty productive that they're the second most productive offense in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Have a bottom rushing offense in the NFL. They have the fourth worst rushing offense.


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[Assistant] With 85 yards per game. Yeah. Is it lying to us or is it telling us a truth that we are just surprised to find out?


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[Assistant] There's offense around the line of scrimmage, I guess is what I'm saying. They don't need to, you know, have a hundred yards rushing pre-game to still make that weapon something you have to respect. Exactly. I guess that's what we're saying here. No, I get that. Okay. Let's stay with the Dolphins here because Tua,


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[Assistant] His numbers, and we've talked about his arm strength, and is he able to push the ball down the field? So the stats are telling us that Tua...


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[Assistant] I like doing that. I like doing that with you specifically because I think that's one of the strengths of the pod is taking a look at the numbers and being like, well, there's a lot more to it. There's a lot more context around that. So just to kind of dispel some of these, or maybe some of them are tipping us off to something in the case of the Raiders where you're like, hey, maybe we have to pay a little bit more attention to that offense there.


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[Assistant] Of note with the Raiders though, their defense is the third worst in points allowed per drive. So that will be the question for the Las Vegas Raiders. Uh, but that is a question for another day. Because we are done.


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[Assistant] So my cursive writing is very good. I get compliments on it all the time. I'm trying to kind of, you know, write it quick so I can watch the next play and do all that. So it's not my perfect, but I get a lot of compliments from both of you.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. What's up? Yo, yo, yo. It's Chris Sims on button. Ahmed Farid is here and I have tortured him once again. I mean, if I'm gonna, I'm gonna steal this quote from him. If I'm gonna sit there and watch film for the last two days straight.


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[Assistant] Treasure hunting what the F happened Wednesday podcast. Amit is here with a water bottle.


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[Assistant] What's the point? And even like no cut off either, like you could drink that at five in the afternoon and still, see that's where.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, I don't know, I drink a lot of coffee between, you know, 6 a.m. and 12 a.m., I mean 12 p.m., I guess. But that's your cutoff. That's my cutoff. Once I get to around 12.30 or 1,


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[Assistant] I have that like, wake up in the middle of the night and I'm like, oh shit, I'm a wide awake here. What the hell is going on? And I finally connected the dots and go, well, maybe it was that four cups of coffee I had or that extra cup of coffee I had at one 30 or two o'clock.


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[Assistant] And I have, I've had men text me during football night in America about my hair, like friends that I haven't seen in a while. And I've never, I've told my wife about it a little bit because it's like I had the shaved, you know, all the way up to the top and just left a little hair on top for a while.


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[Assistant] Okay, but then, so then like, but I've had, you know, some men here recently ask me about it and go ask me, are you going to cut your hair soon?


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[Assistant] So I guess they're telling me they don't like this new part look.


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[Assistant] But you look good with it. It's you. I wouldn't hide from it.


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[Assistant] It stresses me out. I'm like, I'm probably not the nicest person to like, Pete Nemolittlelilitis and Matt Casey during Mondays and Tuesdays because I'm like, I hate...


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[Assistant] Not knowing. I hate. And then I know I'm under the gun to get to know, and I'm asked to talk about some of these subjects too, to where I'm like,


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[Assistant] Well, my gut tells me, you know, we should be impressed by what we saw. There was a lot to like about the performance, a hundred percent. The best game he's ever played. Ever. There's no doubt. And again, listen, you know, I hope we've done a good job to tell everybody how good we think their team is, right?


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[Assistant] Right? And, you know, the course, the coach is very creative. It's the creative, most creative offense they've had.


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[Assistant] He had to push the envelope a little bit with like, okay, we gotta start making some stuff happen, and showed me that he could do that.


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[Assistant] You know, was aggressive with some mindset. Third downs throughout the game were a big thing.


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[Assistant] I mean, he made some big plays on third downs and put the ball in some areas where I went, okay, Tua, you continue to do this. I'll, I'll start being a believer and join Tuan on as well. So that's, that's what was cool.


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[Assistant] But you've applied? No, I have not applied yet. I'm not applying yet. But I'm definitely, uh, was impressed with what I saw and just overall their attack and their team, just like we talked about week one, it's very impressive and they really can stress you out.


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[Assistant] Yes, no doubt about it. I think that's the other thing too. Hey, listen, life gets made easy for them too because of McDaniels and their ability to draw plays to get, hey, here's a ball to Tyreek in the flat real quick or waddle here real quick. And they're so lightning fast. It's unbelievable where they can catch a ball for two or three and you go,


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[Assistant] He has an ability, and I've used this before, a point guard to dish it out in a hurry. He can flick the ball out there. He does have a quick release and can get the ball out of his hands very, very, very quickly.


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[Assistant] And doesn't need to wind up all the time on those type of throws. And that's what I meant by flick. There was a few plays even too where he just, Hey, looking downfield, doesn't like what he sees. And he throws a ball to the flare out to the running back or somebody in the flat and just can, Hey, you know, and I wish people could watch here. Just, you know, looked out and just, it looks like he's just throwing a dart real quick. And.


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[Assistant] You know, there, there is some talent and some, uh, usefulness to that to get the guy, you know, the ball in space. Now, ooh, he got it to me quick and now I can make a guy miss and get upfield and make something happen.


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[Assistant] But yeah, those, those were, those were to me some of the least impressive plays of the day. If that, that can say that.


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[Assistant] I expect him to hit, if he doesn't hit some of that, I go, well, we got major problems, like we need to go to Teddy Bridgewater.


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[Assistant] You know, so that's, those were good. It's some of the other plays he makes. It's Gosecki down the middle at 28 to 7.


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[Assistant] And they got nine guys dropping in coverage and he's patient and, and then really nobody's open and he throws a ball 25 yards down the middle of the field and throws it high up in the air to where Gasecki, like an Aliou pass, like like Steph Curry full court Aliou pass and puts it in the spot where there was a guy in front of Gasecki. They kind of had it covered. The guy in front of him,


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[Assistant] He didn't even fully jump because he's like, wait, is somebody behind me or that ball's going out of bounds? And it was perfect because Gosecki's tall, long. So those are the plays that I looked at to go, okay, f*** yeah Tua, here we go.


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[Assistant] He did take those risks, you know, and of course paid for it early in the game, but


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[Assistant] This is where I give him credit. He just, he didn't back away from it. He didn't go, well I've thrown two interceptions here and they were done 28-7 so I'm just going to check it down. You know, you've heard me complain about other quarterbacks like that. He was going to go down swinging.


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[Assistant] And I love that. I love that he did that. He wasn't worried about it. Okay, I gotta throw an outroute between the corner and the safety here. Okay, I'm gonna put it in the spot here and give him a chance. And he did that. And it was those little things in the third downs like I talked about that


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[Assistant] You know, help them win the football game and get to the point where now we're


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[Assistant] Well, they just, they, you know, the run game is extremely well designed, right? So you have to respect it. Even though you go, well, their offensive line's not great yet and they're not killing people, they run the right plays and the right looks and they know they're well coached through Shanahan and all that, that


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[Assistant] You know, we gotta respect him. We gotta get a guy down here to help out and stop it. So then he plays off of that.


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[Assistant] And he's got RPOs where, hey, there's too many guys in the box. Okay. Boom. Fake that little run, throw it out here to Tyreek and Waddle. And we like our numbers out here with the receiver two blocking for you. And now they get upfield and you go, well, shit, it was a run play and they got 15 yards because you know, you had to overcommit to stop the run play. And he throws it out there and does that.


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[Assistant] That's where they're really good. So he's stressing you out, and I think I wrote this at some point where it's just like, the run game, the movement, and then these


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[Assistant] And then the occasional shot, because now you start to go, well, we gotta take away some of these easy, you know, underneath throws or whatever that are getting 12 and 15 yards and killing us. And then that leaves some opportunities to throw some aggressive balls down the field. So he has found the formula.


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[Assistant] Sometimes you go, are they in fast forward or is this real here? Did I put it like times point five speed here in this? And you just go, my gosh, they are so fast. And that's where they really stress the Ravens defense out. And finally got the Ravens into a point where


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[Assistant] They had to take some chances later in the game and screwed some things up and that led to some big plays by, you know, Tua in the offense as well.


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[Assistant] Yes, to a degree. You know, maybe ask too much of some new guys in the secondary, like we talked about Monday. Just, you know, too creative.


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[Assistant] There was a, I believe it was Gosecki on the left. He motioned to the other side. You know, Hamilton went with him. I don't think he should have. I think he should have stayed there and then he backs into the back part of the field to be the safety there. But I, you know, that's where, yes, I would have gone, you know what, with these guys,


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[Assistant] Play conservative and continue to try to make them work and take the clock away. Okay? But here is the other problem.


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[Assistant] Right, so they asked some things there, and you know, of course they messed it up. But here's the problem too, and where I can, I always try to put myself into everybody's shoes when I watch this stuff, right? Where, if I'm Mike McDonald, and he's watching the second half unfold, when he played vanilla, four man rush, let me play coverage, right?


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[Assistant] Mike McDonald, uh, McDonald is the defensive coordinator. I think it's, I think it's, I think it's Mike McDonald. Yeah. I think it's Mike McDonald. Oh, I see what you're saying. You got me all confused here. No, I'm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've got you confused. You, you got me confused. I got you confused. Used to be in Baltimore, went to the,


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[Assistant] Uh, Michigan to become a D coordinator came back there. Mike McDonnell had a job. E-I-E-I-O. Right. And on this job he had to stop too. And he couldn't do it. But either way.


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[Assistant] Where I think he started to stress out was, first off, here's your problem with the Ravens. The Ravens don't have a pass rush. The Ravens, in my opinion, do not have a marquee defensive lineman. Not one of them.


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[Assistant] So, even though we talk about the Dolphins O line not being special yet.


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[Assistant] When they just rushed forward, they couldn't get close to Tila, which was concerning. And then, he throws like we talked about, a short pass to Waddle here, and a short pass to Tyreek here, and they're catching the ball at five yards, but then turning up field, and getting 15 or 20, and then he's like,


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know, what, I mean, this is too easy too. So I got to start disguising and doing a few things, help out my pass rush. And then I think that led to the shots downfield that ultimately, you know, kind of killed them and hurt their football team.


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[Assistant] They, they didn't know what to do. And then they got caught in between with like, let's go back to the four man rush and just protect things. But then it started to get so easy and they were, they're moving the ball and start to get to the 30 and the 25 to the very, they started to go, okay, shit, we got to change it up. Cause they're just going to go down the field and pick us apart here. What I just, one thing I questioned a little bit was why, you know, to me and a lot of these two man,


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[Assistant] Pick play or something like that happens. They didn't do that. They did not do that. It was zones. It was zones or it was like all out blitz maybe. And that just, you know, that played right into the Dolphins hands really ultimately when it was all said and done. And you do think the top draft pick, Kyle Habbleton,


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[Assistant] He did not start, right? He did not start. He looks the part. He's good. I mean, he is. But like I said, I do think the long one down the left sideline was his fault. This, the, the, the post wrap down the middle, right, to Tyreek.


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[Assistant] I'm not sold that was his fault. He's the safety on that side of the field. Marcus Peters is in an incredible position here.


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[Assistant] Where I think he's, you know, he's basically in a man up situation. It looks like Hamilton is supposed to be the safety over the top to help him. But when the ball is snapped, he looks to the other side of the field.


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[Assistant] And this is kind of a new defense in football because how often do we talk about crossers in football? Crossers. Teams are hitting crossers everywhere, right? Whether it's pick crossers, play action, okay, another crosser. So teams, what they're doing a lot in the NFL too, we're playing these like, hey, our safety is back deep.


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[Assistant] But he's not really back to, he's there to scare you from, hey, quarterback, I'm not going to have the post route. There's a deep safety there, right? But then he's really set hut.


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[Assistant] Looking for the crosser on the other side, right? He's looking to go, you know, Oh, they're going to run like double crossers or something like that. And now I'm here to stop that. And you know, hopefully we scared them away with my presence to not throw the post route.


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[Assistant] It's one of the best games ever by Lamar, too. And to me, again,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna sound like a hater here, but I don't care. Like, so, Lamar is just special. I mean, he's really special.


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[Assistant] He didn't make one, he made one bad decision late in the fourth quarter where Xavier and Howard almost intercepted it.


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[Assistant] I look at that and go, ever than that, I mean, he was almost flawless. Perfect. He really was. His throwing was on point. On point. Every ball that came out of his hand was pure.


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[Assistant] He throws from different arm angles. His decision making was absolutely phenomenal against a really good defense and no running game.


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[Assistant] See, this is to me where, you know, again, this is, this, like, this is where guys like to me, like Lamar and Mahomes and Allen and, you know, Herbert and, you know, Joe Burrow, it's a different set of stardom, you know, Rogers.


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[Assistant] Compared to, okay, I know Tua had a great game and Hertz had a great game and all that. They play through them. It's all about them.


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[Assistant] Where the other guys go, wait, we have this great team and all this and all this and we're doing this and we're gonna make the game easy for you, blah, blah, blah, and hopefully you can take advantage. Lamarr, it's literally all on him. He is the run game.


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[Assistant] And then his, he is the pass game. And we're not sitting here going, oh my gosh, the Ravens receivers and stuff. They're so awesome. Rashad Bateman looks really good. There's no doubt. And I think they got something there. And then at least Devin DuVernay is scary and has some speed. And then we know Andrews is a beast at tight end.


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[Assistant] They need to get healthy up front. I think that's the biggest thing. They need Ronnie Stanley back in there. I mean, they got Patrick, you know, they lost Jawan James last week. They got Patrick McCarrey, you know, so now that Morgan Moses is playing right tackle, Jawan James was there.


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[Assistant] Now they got Patrick Mccary, who's a center guard lifetime. He's playing left tackle. Right. And then there's no JK Dobbins yet who has three rockets up his ass and he stresses you the f**k out when he's on the field. And then we're missing.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Edwards, who's kind of the sledgehammer. He's the, you know, thunder to the lightning. So they don't have either of that. They have no running back that you worry about doing anything extra than, hey, there's four yards to gain and they get four yards.


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[Assistant] I think it's a little combination of both. I don't want to give up on it yet just because those guys are coming back and then it sounds like they're close. Ronnie Stanley sounds like he's close, but I do think here in the meantime, it's going to be more Lamar throwing the football and them winning with his right arm. And then let's just not forget about this. The f**king Dolphins are freaky on defense. They're freaky across the board.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're, it's almost like watching the old Ravens. It's just they got size, speed, everything on that side of the ball. And they can basically do whatever they want. But the Ravens were ready for that all out pressure and had answers and Lamar was on his game.


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[Assistant] F up the play guy. F up the play, exactly right. It's a point in the game where the Dolphins had the momentum, right? They hadn't really stopped the Ravens, the Ravens here they go, they're moving again, and it becomes a fourth and one, you know, run, and he just reads the play,


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[Assistant] They just between him and Van Ginkle and...


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[Assistant] You know, guys like number 92, Seiler, who we don't know about, who's a really good player. And then you talk about my two big asses in the middle and Ray Kwan and Christian Wilkins, who are stars, in my opinion, in big people world, they're stars. And then Phillips on the outside, you just go,


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[Assistant] There's nothing they can't do on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they were ready for that, you know, all-out look, 100% for sure. And then I think the other thing is, uhm, you know, sometimes Blitz numbers can be skewed with Lamar Jackson because so many teams play five-man fronts because they're worried about, wait, they're running and we don't have enough people to do that. And it ends up being a five-man pressure. But, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's something to, you know, watch with them that they don't go over aggressive. They're too good to have to go over aggressive all the time.


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[Assistant] This is not like a few years ago where they're trying to like, wait, we're one in seven and we got to make things happen and start winning games and play through our defense because our offense stinks, right? Yeah. This is, this is like, no, you got enough offense now. You don't have to go totally crazy on defense. It'd be interesting to see if they adjust because they do got my boy blue coming into town. Exactly. And they're going to be ready for all our blitz. And of course he's in a,


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[Assistant] He can throw the ball a country mile, so if they do that too much, they'll get their ass torn up. So you would recommend they don't? All out blitz. Not all out. Be tactical with it. You know, and they, I've seen from last year and even this year, they have ways to make it look like that, and then they drop out and do things, certainly, but yea, you gotta be careful against these better quarterbacks, that you don't take too many chances in those situations.


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[Assistant] Well the Jets, yeah, the Jets did a good job against the run game too. It was Lamar's right arm doing it. And now you got this week like, hey, this Patriots defense is the real deal Holyfield too. They got big dudes, I have a hard time thinking the Ravens are gonna run on them.


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[Assistant] And, of course, they're really well coached in the secondary, to where, yeaah, I think that game could be a nail-biter. You could be sitting there going, woah, one of these teams is going to be one and two after three weeks.


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[Assistant] My thought of after watching the game live and then watching on film did not change a lot. I know we did our podcast Monday, so we didn't get to react to this, like, because being a Monday night football game. But, you know, he has gotten to a point where


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[Assistant] It's cheat code time. It's, it's really, it's, it's insane. It's cheat code time. It's like what I felt about Aaron Rodgers in 2010, 11, 12, 13, just going.


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[Assistant] If you're not a great defense, you can't stop this guy. You just, you can't because he makes all the right decisions mentally, right? He sees the field so incredibly well.


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[Assistant] And then as we always discuss, when you do play the perfect defense, he's just like, oh, okay, there's nothing open. I'll buy a little more time and something will come open here eventually. Six, seven, eight, nine seconds later.


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[Assistant] And then he makes it happen that way. And so that's where it's gotten just unbelievably scary. The way he sees the field, the decision making, the pinpoint accuracy and high degree difficulty of throws, it's insanity. And I do think


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[Assistant] That he's, yea, you know, again, this is why I think he's the best quarterback in the game right now.


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[Assistant] No doubt. That's the other thing that's, you know, impressive about him. Like we just talked about with Tua. You know, first off,


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[Assistant] Like they do the RPO game to run the ball. If you just run the ball. Oh, and then put Stefan Diggs on a five yard out route. If you play off.


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[Assistant] He kinda just puts it out there like the run and then he can just flick it out there so quick to like an Aaron Rodgers type of level. And then of course his arm's so strong that the ball's like, holy crap, you can barely see it on film.


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[Assistant] So he's amazing that way. And that stresses you out too, because now you're trying to, wait, we're trying to stop the run and worry about that. And we don't want to live up the big play, but he loves throwing out routes. He's not scared to throw out routes. Outroads are a forgotten art form in the NFL.


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[Assistant] They're not afraid to, and of course that stops you from playing a lot of off coverage because you just go, what, 5 yard out, 10 yard out, holy cow, we can't play off forever, we gotta do something else. And that's where he is, no question, uhm, really, really good. That was a definitely interesting thing about the game, that little part of it.


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[Assistant] This is a little bit like the two opposed to Tyreek, right? This is an en vogue thing in the NFL right now.


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[Assistant] Because of the crosser thing, once again, I'm trying to tell you about. Teams are crossers followed by another in-cut or another crosser so they, or it might be a shallow crosser with a deep crosser and an in-cut and you just go like, damn, we need to get people in the middle of the field here to stop this. Cause there's just so many windows that a quarterback can hit one of those crossers in, right?


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[Assistant] You play the single safety defense to make it look like, hey, the post route won't be there. You can't throw a post route. And, you know, so the quarterback said, Hut, he goes, the guy don't think I have the post route, but then the safety is looking for crossers. And on this one, yeah, Bayard.


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[Assistant] Uh, Kevin Byard, he takes the crosser underneath, they call it cutting the crossers in, in, in my world or football world. And yeah, his ability to just stay with that and see it happen down the field and then let digs work.


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[Assistant] Realizing that, hey wait, this isn't really a three deep zone here. This guy's kinda cheating me and staying with it and putting the ball on the money and Diggs looks as good as he's looked, uh, you know, really ever in his career.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, you know, they have a little experience with the Tennessee Titans. You know, I think they have experience probably with, you know, that defense, similarities with New England and all that. This was very interesting to me about the football game.


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[Assistant] You know, cause Mackenzie was healthy. Jamison Crotter are healthy. I know they had no Gabe Davis, right? And they're a team that Jen really likes to live in the 11 personnel world. One tight end, one running back, three wide receivers.


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[Assistant] They played like, and I don't know if we ever got to the numbers on this, Pete, maybe you can look it up real quick. If not, it's not a big deal. Cause I just go in with, I know this. They were playing two tight ends, two backs. You know, two tight ends, one back. Right?


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[Assistant] Here's what they're doing. You know, you think, oh, maybe they want to keep the linebacker on the field and keep them in base defense, right? The Titans didn't do that. They were like, well, you still got Josh Allen. We're still scared of the pass to a degree. So they had nickel still in, in those situations. But what I do think it did is.


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[Assistant] It simplifies their coverages. See where Tennessee gets dangerous is when they get you in second and long or


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[Assistant] They play coverages where, you know, you've heard me describe this in the past. I don't know what the f*** this coverage is. It's just, everybody seems to be dropping right in the right area. Cause they've broken you down and they got this guy dropping here and this guy dropping there and this guy's covering man to man but they're playing zone over here and


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[Assistant] That's where Vrabel and Shane Bowen are very creative on that side of the ball. I think with those personnel sets, it simplifies you. Because again, what happens is a lot of times when you get into those personnel sets, teams do worry about, well damn, if they put two tight ends over here on this side of the ball and all that or shift to a formation,


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[Assistant] I don't wanna be outnumbered in the run game or leave a gap or two unaccounted for because we got some guy that's, you know, looks like he's covering this guy and then gonna turn his back and run to some other area and drop in the zone.


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[Assistant] We've seen games against teams like Titans in the past or Jeffrey Simmons and Bud Dupree and some of these guys.


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[Assistant] They push people back into Josh Allen's face all game long. Yeah. And it make it hard on them. And we don't really care sometimes because we're like, Oh, it's Josh Allen. He'll just throw and have people hanging on him and he'll set off his back foot. But it messes the quarterback up and throws him out of rhythm. That I haven't seen that happen too much here through the first two weeks.


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[Assistant] I know. I got faith in the Titans still though. I'm not giving up on them on the defensive side of the ball for sure.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, but I wanna, I will qualify it when we get there. The Devons, I'm not worried. It sucks that they don't have Harrell Landry.


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[Assistant] They had the, one of their corners out injured, you know, so that hurt them a little bit.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm, I think they'll get that straight. Farley got beat a couple times. Farley got beat a couple times. Farley got benched.


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[Assistant] Because he didn't play man to man on that last touchdown before the half. He got confused, screwed up. To me, still doesn't look like the Farley that I saw at Virginia Tech. And I do worry if like,


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[Assistant] Having three major injuries here over the last five or six years has maybe slowed him down. He doesn't look as freaky to me right now, but again, this is his first year playing again, so it might not be till next year that he looks like that freaky guy. Not gonna over judge it, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] They were outgunned and of course playing the hottest quarterback and the best offense in football and a guy in Ken Dorsey too that people I don't think have a great feel for how he's attacking yet. So that makes things hard on a guy like Mike Vrabel and Shane Bowen too.


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[Assistant] Simple but effective formula they had in the last few years, right? Can they do that? I don't know. That's the one I'm going, I'm not sure if this is going to work quite the same.


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[Assistant] One, the offensive line is not as physically imposing as it was there, you know, last year or the year before. So I think that does hurt them. I mean, there's just, there's too many plays in that game where said HUD


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[Assistant] Other than Derrick Henry on the offense right now. There's no other guy.


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[Assistant] To look at and go, alright, who's gonna scare you? I mean, Burke, I like him, but he hasn't got to that level yet. Alright? You know, Robert Woods has never really been that guy. Robert Woods is the great compliment, you know, number two receiver. Gonna catch a lot of 10 and 15 yard routes that way. So, that's where I get worried about it.


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[Assistant] You know, Pete asked me, and I think you saw it in the group text last night, he's asked me about like, what about Tannahill and Derrick Henry, you didn't write anything, did they look the same, is there things you can write? If I was really concerned about them, I would have wrote that in my notes. Derrick Henry still looks very effective. Derrick Henry needs a little bit, gather up, speed up.


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[Assistant] Lewis Riddick I thought did a great job of explaining this during the telecast. He's a runner that needs to get downhill. He's not a runner that


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[Assistant] Wait, gets the ball and now has to stop and jump cut, jump cut, jump cut, and then get upfield. That's not who he is. He is, hey, I got the ball.


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[Assistant] Uhm, stretching towards the sideline. I'm kinda going 70%. Oh, I see a hole. Now I go downhill in such a manner where you go, oh my gosh, this big **** is coming down at such a rate. This is scary. And then he can kinda wiggle his hips and get out of the way and get arm tackles or run you over.


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[Assistant] If he doesn't have the space to do that, he's not gonna be the Derek Henry we have been accustomed to.


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[Assistant] I know, you know, he had the second interception, the pick six, that was horrible. First interception.


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[Assistant] The running game's not working, and who was that? Tremaine Edmonds did a great job, who's a freak in nature, just kinda getting his hand on it, he gets his hand on it, the receiver gets, touches his hand, tips up in the air, Jordan Poyer interception, little unlucky, great play by the defense, it's gonna happen, you know? But, like,


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[Assistant] Tannahill, you know, like I said, I don't look at Tannahill. I know he's not a world-beater superstar, but I don't look at him as the problem.


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[Assistant] We've seen them start off slow before and get it going and they're very well coached.


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[Assistant] Put Matt Milano and Tremaine Edmonds up in the A-gap or give these crazy looks anymore just to create confusion with the line to help their D-line.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Superman would have a hard time doing some of that. So that, that, that, so where now they, I know, so man of steel. But that's where, yes, they are different.


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[Assistant] They can rely on their big people even without Ed Oliver playing the other night.


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[Assistant] Doesn't what let you breathe. That's where Leslie Frazier and McDermott are awesome.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they go, hey, we know we're good here, but we're going to play a defense too where it's like, like,


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[Assistant] We think the best you're going to do is get two yards here. You're going to get two yards. And you sometimes go, oh man, they motioned over here and whoa, this backside corner is, he's in a vulnerable position here. Uh oh.


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[Assistant] And like the safety goes over the top of them and you're going, okay, wait, it's covered too, but if this receiver does an inside release and runs a post right across, they got nothing there. But then like as the motion goes across and the safety goes to help them, the corner moves inside. They know where they're vulnerable a lot of the times when they play these crazy aggressive defenses, which I love too. Yeah. And they're extremely well-closed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. It's, it's tactically aggressive and it's really, it's one of the better coached defenses in football. My thing with them last year is it was all about the coaching and I didn't think they had enough horses to help it out against it. Now they got the horses and they got the tactical stuff to really stress you out.


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[Assistant] That is insane. That tells you. They're getting the results without blitzing. They don't have to have Tremaine Edmonds, you know, blitz up the A-gap to make sure one guy can maybe get pressure and beat their guy on the pass rush.


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[Assistant] They can now just go, hey, you big freak middle linebacker, play the middle, be long, tip a pass, intercept it. It's, they're, they're a different animal. They're not just going to feast on the poor this year. They're going to feast on the rich a little too. Is Tua going to need to throw six more touchdowns this week to beat him?


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[Assistant] No, but I am so excited for that game. To me, that's the game of the week. Not only because of...


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[Assistant] There are two of the best rosters in the game, there are two, it's four coaches, right, coordinators, head coach, coordinators, whatever, that are very good game planners, thinkers,


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[Assistant] That's something I said on the podcast with Florio last Thursday.


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[Assistant] You know, this is what happens when you have a team that's great in the division for a while. Another team in the division goes, we're just going to build ourselves to beat that team. Right. And that's what the Chargers, the Chargers are built to beat the Chiefs. Right. It's like, it's like the early 90 Cowboys. They were like, we got to beat.


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[Assistant] So, they are built for this. And then, have the defensive coach on the other side. Yeaah, can make life hard on them. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I think my main, my main thing was, yeaah, built for it. And really.


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[Assistant] I played the Chiefs. They were the better team on the field. I really do feel like that. They just messed up a few situations and maybe got a hair too aggressive here or there and then you just got the magic man.


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[Assistant] He just threw a pass between two people and he like threw a shovel pass, but somehow it still spiraled or he threw a deep post and like both feet were off the ground and he threw it on the money for 50 yards. Like who does that? That's where.


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[Assistant] They're special. They, they thrive on that and they love that and that's where they're a special football team.


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[Assistant] I think they will be. I think they might have gone a little too far in this game, right? Where, here, again, I'm putting myself in their shoes.


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[Assistant] They gotta be thinking about their last matchup last year, where I think Mahomes went like 31 of 45 and threw for 400, mid-400s, right? And remember that was a time where, you know, if you take big plays away, he's not patient, right?


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[Assistant] And he was showing a little patience, I believe, the week before that, and that game he was very patient and just picked them apart and did whatever he wanted.


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[Assistant] Oh, wait, great, you took away the deep play, but it was just like, hey, underneath the hill, underneath the Kelsey, underneath to this guy, underneath to this guy, and they just died a slow death. Like it just was like, okay, yeah, you took away the big play, but every drive is 11 plays, 80 yards for a touchdown right now. We need to change it up a little. So I think he looked, you know, Staley probably looked at that and said, okay, we can't do that. He's,


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[Assistant] Mahomes has evolved here. And he knows what to expect and he's probably expecting that. So, you know, they did take some chances here and there. Played some man to man. Took some chances that way. Right? I have no problem with that.


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[Assistant] But I think there was some times where maybe it just went a hair too far and the, the 50 yard touchdown down the middle or 45, whatever it was, 41, that was one that, you know, I would say, Ooh, that might've been, you don't need to do that anymore. You guys are so talented on this side of the ball. We don't need to have no safety in the middle of the field versus Patrick Mahomes. That's just living a little too dangerously. How about?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I don't know, like, I think, you know, Kelsey...


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[Assistant] You know, they had a thing where, hey, if he breaks in, we kind of got a guy sitting there, just reading my home's eyes, waiting for him to come in. And, and if he breaks out, there's a guy there too. Like he's not just going to catch the ball and turn up the field and be 15 yards down the field free, right? So there was definitely a plan of attack there. On the deep touchdown pass, right? I was watching the play thinking like,


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[Assistant] But, he's not really playing middle of the field safety, and then I watched it back again, and I was like, oh wait, wait, no, this is, this is like...


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[Assistant] And they took a chance there to where I just go, ahhh.


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[Assistant] You know, that's too much of a chance. Play man to man and have an extra guy in the middle.


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[Assistant] I do, I wish they would tie, like, early in the game they run it well, and I'm just sitting there going, okay, so.


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[Assistant] Where's the pass off of that? Where? Okay, hope in the next series. Okay, where's? Wait, those runs were great! There, they saw, that had to scare them on the sidelines. Hey, when they run that, what are we gonna worry about?


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[Assistant] Definitely. It's, it's, I think it's real. I think it's real.


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[Assistant] You know, now, to me the next phase is like, in these big games, you know, gotta find a way to make a few plays, you know.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, the Chiefs thrive in this. They thrive in these environments. We know that. They love the big lights and putting on a show. They're showmen. That's why they're fun to watch. That's why we love it. You know? But,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you said it right, and I think I came away after the game going, okay, uhm, the Chargers can win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] That's what I, you know, I know it's week two and I know that's like a really bold, but I just came away going, man, they look good. They have everything. My pick to win the Super Bowl. Right, you're right. You're right. It's not that bold. I just went, I kind of sold me like, okay, they're, they're, they definitely have a chance to be one of the elite teams in football this year. And that's not even talking about the offense quite yet. But I love that they changed it up on defense. I do. It just was a hair too aggressive.


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[Assistant] And Mahomes and Andy could not get in a rhythm.


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[Assistant] To get to some of their bread and butter plays because they just didn't know what to expect. I just thought it was a hair aggressive here and there.


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[Assistant] Amazing in the pass game. Amazing. They're, they are, I think, got something. Like, where they're gonna, it's gonna be hard for any front forward to get there and pressure Justin Herbert on a consistent basis. You're gonna have to do some things. Chris Jones got there a few times, right? But that was it.


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[Assistant] That was it. And even he had a bunch of plays where you went, wow, I've never seen Chris Jones get stalemated like that. Like, he couldn't, like, so, it, it's, it's real. When you just talk about, hey, Corey Linsley at, at, uh, Center, still really awesome. Filer at guard is a beast.


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[Assistant] First round pick from Boston College Zion Johnson. Beast.


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[Assistant] We know left tackle Lashon Slater is already one of the best pass protecting left tackles in football. And then the question was the right tackle and Trey Pipkins, uh, who got hurt during the game at third quarter or so, he's done really good. So that's where they're going to be a handful for, for whoever played.


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[Assistant] But that didn't affect the chargers at all. It doesn't. It doesn't affect the chargers. The chargers are, you know...


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[Assistant] I don't even know how to put this. They're just, they're very well coached on the offensive side of the ball. They really are. They know


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[Assistant] What they're doing, you know, why they're doing it, where to look against this coverage. He knows where to go to the ball. You know, the guys know how to run the right routes with their plays. So they're never off kilter that way. My problem is it's just a little too much of that. It's too much of.


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[Assistant] 48 throws for 334 yards? There's too many stat lines like that over the last two years for Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] 40, 40 completions for 290 yards. And he got the best arm in football. He's up there with the Allens and the Mahomes and the Rodgers and all those guys. And it's just, there's not enough creativity game plan specific plays. They don't need a ton cause the system's good. It's tried and true, but they need to find a way or two to, yeah.


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[Assistant] Dial up some plays to scare the defense, back them off, make some plays. So not everything has to be 11 plays 75 yards, 11 plays 67 yards.


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[Assistant] You know, nine plays, 73 yards. There's just, that's maybe my one complaint about the, the Chargers on that side of the ball. You got the quarterback with the arm that can do that. Exactly. That's where it's, it's a little frustrating. You know, you just want to go like, Hey, you don't need to be Reed in my homes or just people are going deep too much, but you gotta have a little something there.


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[Assistant] They ran like 200 jet sticky, 200 jet double stick, right? So here, just to explain that, like, you basically got two receivers to the right, Everett was one of them. They're kind of like in a stacked alignment, right? Same thing to the left.


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[Assistant] And then the back is gonna go through the middle of the field and just check through to be a middle of the field presence in case nothing's open. But basically those two receivers to the right, two receivers to the left, they're gonna run the same play. It's the same route system. Somebody's gonna go to the flat.


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[Assistant] And then somebody's gonna go on like a five yard out. If they get a zone, they kind of just curl it up, right? Instead of running out, right? And so you don't run into the zone guy out there and get your head knocked off, right? So that's what they did. Everett ran like.


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[Assistant] He was like, I didn't run to the flat, I didn't run the out, I kinda ran an in-betweener, right?


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[Assistant] He's looking at Palmer who's running the out route who sits up and curls up because he's gonna box somebody out. It's too tight. So Herbert's eyes go to Everett and


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[Assistant] He let his mistake, one mistake became two mistakes. I don't know why he threw it to him. You know, one to just go, wait, he's not in the flat. He should be out there. He's sitting there. And just as he was getting ready to throw,


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[Assistant] And the rest is history. And that's just an unfortunate little part there where, you know, again, Everett's going to be, get the minus in the grading film. So is Herbert though. Herbert's going to get it too. They're going to go, Hey, Hey, don't, don't let his mistake, you know, become your mistake too. And I think he knows better to not throw that ball and hopefully, you know, he'll learn from that for sure.


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[Assistant] And then they get you in a situation where, you know, okay, whoa, whoa, they're spreading this out and they got speed at receiver and stuff. And, and then of course he can run and scramble and it makes it scary and he's a good decision maker.


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[Assistant] You know, and so that, that's where the game started out. So they get in five lies, I think, for the first two plays. And then they get you in the spread formation with a back in the backfield. And...


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[Assistant] It's a passing formation. We want to play too deep, but then they run the ball or he runs some quarterback design run and you go, damn, we don't have enough people to stop it.


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[Assistant] You know, and then you come back down and start to go, okay, well now we gotta do something else to kind of stop the run. And then you go, shit, Devontae Smith and AJ Brown are one-on-one or, and very, we're in very vulnerable looks and we're the Vikings and we're not very good in the secondary.


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[Assistant] And so that's where they put stress on you and he's smart that way and making the appropriate throws and doing everything the right way really right now and playing really good football.


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[Assistant] Enough from me. I mean, no. No, I'm not gonna tell, I'm just like too a little bit here, alright, where, you know, like I tried to explain before, you know,


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[Assistant] And I know, I know I'm gonna, but I'm just trying to give my honest opinion here. There's still a few plays and throws where I look at it like, oh, he's gotta throw that ball there. That guy's open. He gets away with it and runs and gets 10, 15 yards.


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[Assistant] But again, like, I'm holding them to a standard, like, is that gonna get it done against the 49ers defense? Or, you know, the Bucks again? And stuff like that. And I go, no, that's not. It's not. So...


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[Assistant] But still, it's better than it has been and it's going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] And he knows how to run and when to run and he doesn't, you know, force the ball and he doesn't have to a lot of the times, you know. And that's fine. That's good. You know, but, but, you know, again, I'm, I'm holding it to a standard of when they play the really good teams late in the year in the playoffs, you know, what, what's he going to do then? And that's, that's where I just questioned it a little bit.


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[Assistant] He's an NFL starting quarterback. There's no doubt about that forever. I think the thing I'm just saying is I'm not sure how good he is yet. Just not sure how good. And I am one too, that you've heard me say this before.


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[Assistant] We've yet to still see a quarterback really get to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl where it's all about, hey, they're just going to run the ball with the running quarterback and run and do all that.


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[Assistant] You know, cause you're gonna usually play a defense in the divisional championship game, Super Bowl, that's gonna stop that and now it comes down to throwing the ball in the pocket. And that's where I just said I'd still like to see a little bit more, but it's all going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] Well that, that was, that was a really great design play, great throw.


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[Assistant] And apply to really stress that they were kind of playing a quarter's coverage.


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[Assistant] And you're like, whoa, I don't know which one of us has got them. And then one of those tight ends runs like a 10 or 12 yard out route.


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[Assistant] The corner plays it the right way. He sees it, he starts to stop. The safety was wrong. The safety's gotta keep going back. Unless they're playing some way where the safety's supposed to drive on that out route, and the corner's supposed to get back there, but I find that highly unlikely with that set. That's one where the safety's gotta get back. That was his, his issue, and it was a really nice throw by, uh, Jalen Hurd.


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[Assistant] Well, it's just too, you know, you've heard me say, you know, it's just, it was too simple. It was too easy. They were too worried about giving up the big play and it just was like, okay, well, I mean, you know.


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[Assistant] You're just gonna bend and break here every drive. And to me, they put you in a bind, because now you play these two deep safeties, they have a ton of passes and plays to just go, oh you do that, we have a great way to throw five yard over the middle here, five yard over here, five, so they can pick you apart.


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[Assistant] And that's really good. But then also within that they, that's where like their, their RPO game and their read option and their, that puts stress, yea, now there's two safeties deep. So.


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[Assistant] Started running some different coverages, blitzing the nickel guy off the edge, but it was so vanilla that Shane Stike and Sirianni and Hertz were just, they were gashing it.


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[Assistant] To me, you gotta do something where it's, yeaah, exotic coverages, three deeps that way, to help your run game, help the screen game, cause they're a phenomenal screen team too, and then, and then,


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[Assistant] It takes away within those three deep coverages or singles, it takes away some of the holes in the middle of the field. And now, to me, you put it back on Jalen Hurst to, okay, he's gonna have to make some throws here. And that, that's how I would try to defend him, you know, without getting too detailed here and too in the weeds.


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[Assistant] They might have, maybe, but this is just, this is a team and an offense that's on a different level than Green Bay, in my opinion. Better O-line, better weapons, you know, and then the quarterback design run stuff, how they use that, puts


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[Assistant] You in another stress position. And their offensive scheme is better than Green Bay. That's the other thing I would tell you too. They're creative. They have game plan specific stuff. And like I said, between the quarterback design run, the run game, him being a good deep ball thrower, and them being an unbelievable screen team, man does that put a lot of pressure on your football team. It really does.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, you know, we talked about them being too predictable against your Lions last week. Remember where I think the Lions finally got into it and like, we're like, wait, we know what front they're going to be in when we get this formation. We can call it the perfect run play. I don't care how big their guys are. They can't stop this right here.


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[Assistant] Well, they changed it up a little bit more in this game. I did like to see that. It wasn't crazy. And they did get into...


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[Assistant] I like big butts and I cannot lie formation, which was awesome. I mean, yeah, second drive of the game. Here it was Jordan Davis, Fletcher Cox, Hargrave. And you just go, you know, good luck.


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[Assistant] And that's where I think Minnesota, who, you know, pushed around Green Bay a little last week, I think they thought they were going to be able to run the ball. And it was like, no, negative ghost rider. You will not be running the ball against this, this, this crew right here. And no, they did. Kirk Cousins led the team 20 yards. Yeah, right, right. Big Kirk Cousins. That's what you want. You want him leading the team in rushing. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] That was the issue, no doubt, let alone...


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[Assistant] You know, cousins not playing all that well. Didn't have an all out blitz plan.