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[Assistant] Learning, continuing to learn in a team like Williams alongside a great driver like Alex Albon, uhm, could be a fantastic relationship and one that works well for Red Bull as well going forwards because they have


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[Assistant] The luxury of too many drivers around for the amount of seats that they have available. With Ricardo being signed for next year of course, so...


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[Assistant] Uhm, for me that makes sense. He's the most logical one I would want to put in my second seat if I was running a team. Uhm, and you'd put a nice deal together with Red Bull. Uhm,


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[Assistant] The only negative for Williams is that you would lose that commodity. You're training somebody up to then lose them later on down the line, but in the short term you could get a good healthy amount of points on the table and


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[Assistant] Uh, he's been there with Aston Martin this year as a reserve driver. Almost got his chance in Bahrain from another hand or wrist injury from Stroll, uh, who just about made it back in time, but he was prepared and ready to, to jump in. He, he did a pretty decent job from what I could see at the test in Bahrain, but again, limited information.


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[Assistant] I would be less confident in putting him in the car than Lawson, because I haven't seen enough.


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[Assistant] Your, your data points on that driver. And then you've got, um, Théo Pocher, uh, who's leading currently the F2 Championship. He'll be looking for a seat next year as well.


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[Assistant] And you go, well, I know that the thing that, the thing with Logan Sargent proves is that he was comparable to Liam Lawson in F2.


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[Assistant] He, he had the speed and he had consistency there and he had good race results, uh, to, to almost match those guys or did match those guys.


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[Assistant] But yet for whatever reason in Formula 1 it's not working out and it can be such a pressure cooker environment in Formula 1 for some drivers that they struggle to...


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[Assistant] To drive freely enough. You drive too tense because you're not confident enough. Because such a scary environment is such that you call it the Piranha Club, don't they?


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[Assistant] Gobbled up by everyone and that can intimidate you. And I feel like Logan isn't driving.


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[Assistant] The way I've seen him drive before in other categories. He's not driving the way that he knows he can drive. And these mistakes keep coming about because...


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[Assistant] Maybe he's trying to do things without driving in a free way. You know, you need to be relaxed when you drive these cars. You need to let it flow. And if you're too tense and digital in your movements because you're inherently nervous all the time,


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[Assistant] And we're driving with a feeling like, do I really belong here? It's never going to work out for you. And some other drivers just have naturally more confidence. It's like any athlete, you know, you can perform on a world stage.


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[Assistant] The same level that you can in a test day or, you know, in a training day.


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[Assistant] And it's the same for drivers. So it's not working out for Logan at the moment. He's going to have to ask himself questions. The team are clearly going to be asking questions and what do you do? It's not an easy decision.


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[Assistant] Hi. Hello Matthew. Hello. Thanks for having us in your loft apartment. Well. Does that open up to a nice view of Bermondsey and the River Thames? Let's say yes. Let's say yes. There's, there's not. It's always a warehouse kind of vibe that Matthew has. I should say Claire and I are colleagues, as you say, in the pit lane and colleagues from W Series, the first year of W Series we did together.


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[Assistant] Usually fashionable top that I'm wearing. This is, do you like it?


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[Assistant] This is a designer t-shirt. It's got the whole thing on the back of it. That's not a mistake. That's meant to be there. Can you see it?


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[Assistant] And this was the present from the clothes shop.


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[Assistant] From Zhou Guangyu, the Zhou Guangyu shoot that we did, uh, that was shown at, uh, this week's Canadian Grand Prix coverage. I didn't come away with a Fred Flintstone outfit that he chose for me, but, uh, he did choose this for me. It's by, uh, acronym? Yeah, acronym, which, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, I would all, just, I would just say thank you very much to Joe Guangliu and his kind generosity because, uh, yeaah, he bought me a t-shirt. He wanted to buy me the Fred Flinstone outfit. And I was like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, he didn't expect me not to be wearing a t-shirt underneath. But yeah, good weekend. Good weekend, yeah. Claire, how was your weekend?


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[Assistant] I was looking for a moose with a blue hat, but I could only find them with the Mounties hat. But you're right Matthew, I do have a present for you.


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[Assistant] If not for the lead, then certainly for some more action. Yes. Uhm, I did think of some other ones for you, Matthew. I thought Marmot's, Mounties, maple syrup. Moose. Moose.


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[Assistant] Uh, Melbourne, not Melbourne, Montreal, uh, and some other M's. Uh, I did think briefly about unsportsmanlike, but we'll get to that later. But I still go on quality. Sorry to repeat myself from the,


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[Assistant] Because they're not as quick, Aston Martin is still quicker, which I thought was interesting. We're going to see more of the Lewis against Fernando, and that is quality.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm kind of... I think you're falling for the classic.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Senna was what, 35 when he died? And there were only 15-16 races in a season, so yeaah.


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[Assistant] He was keen not to do the center. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to think whether Yoss raced against, I think 94, it was probably, might have overlapped a season or so, but I think it was a little bit too late.


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[Assistant] No, he wasn't so... You've gotta allow yourself.


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[Assistant] Yes, definitely. But actually, uhm, what excited me most about that was not those three, nor the Mounties we saw around it, but the appearance of Adrian Newey. That made the podium for me. It was like, woah, okay, right. You know, Newey who spanned Senna.


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[Assistant] You know, through the Schumacher years, fighting against Schumacher and a Ferrari and then doing all the McLaren cars and Williams and through Hill and Villeneuve.


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[Assistant] You know, and then Vettel and all of that and see Verstappen and...


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[Assistant] I thought that gave me a little bit of a tingle.


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[Assistant] Sorry, Anne. Nice idea, but good luck with that. What we can hope for is that Red Bull do take some penalty with aerodynamic testing restrictions. Restriction. And that Aston Martin and Mercedes come up to their level next year. And then we'll have different cars, but equal.


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[Assistant] Ferrari, Ferrari hope they will. Yeaah. It's possible that Aston and Mercedes could drop Ferrari.


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[Assistant] Red Bull are just gliding through life at the moment because everything is going fine. The only problem they have to worry about is Sergio Perez.


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[Assistant] And, not a problem, but I'll get to it in a second, and uhm, where to hide that hundred winds flag.


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[Assistant] And in the end it was a flag. And I thought alright, well someone has gone to a shop and got that flag and say 100 Grand Prix wins made. You know, what did they keep it in a sort of locked safe? Was it, you know, Lest Christian Horner should happen upon it? It's like, you don't tempt it. But they didn't have to worry about it. It was always in hand. In qualifying and in the race, they glide, they're gliding through stuff at the moment.


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[Assistant] And when the only problem you've got is where to hide your celebratory flag before it's actually happened, and that Sergio Perez seems off the boil at the moment,


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[Assistant] It's actually not really a problem at all, is it? Because he's the perfect number two now. He's reverted back to the perfect number two for max.


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[Assistant] In terms of what, not providing max support in the races or just for his own equilibrium?


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[Assistant] The early rash of Checo challenging for the championship confidence of Miami and Baku has evaporated, hasn't it? As the pollen descends and makes us sneeze. In Miami, he was, he was. Uh, it was evaporated with the pollen.


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[Assistant] Yes, although Christian Orner was quick to praise Alex Alban, wasn't he?


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[Assistant] So uhm, I thought that was interesting in that Alex Alban has now


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[Assistant] He still has the links with, uh, the UVidia family who are 51% owners of Red Bull, uh, Alex does, in the stuff that he does. There's a couple of sponsors that he does which is linked to the


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[Assistant] Uhm, you video family and their other brands that they have in Thailand. Uhm, but Malix is not in the Red Bull camp anymore. And Alex Alban finishing seventh in a Williams.


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[Assistant] Even though it was 20 seconds behind, well it wouldn't, but Cheko made the extra pit stop behind Cheko Perez in a Red Bull in sixth.


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[Assistant] If you're not ready to promote Liam Lawson, who's next in the, um, in the Red Bull staircase of talent, and they don't think Yuki Tsunoda or Nikola Reiss are quite right for Red Bull racing, which they, Marco and Cristiano are pretty much made clear, then give Daniel Ricciardo a go.


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[Assistant] How much is driver? How much is car? That's an old and other podcast. That was a separate podcast we'll do maybe at the end of the year, Matthew. Which is, you know, I mean, I made a comment to Zhou Guanyu when we were doing our feature with him before Canada.


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[Assistant] Was that in China where it's, you know, very.


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[Assistant] Sporting culture is all about winning. Look at the Olympics and how they develop athletes for the Olympic Games. Is it hard to make the Chinese watching public understand?


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[Assistant] There is a level at which the car dominates the driver performance in Formula One. And if you're in an Alfa Romeo Sauber with the greatest respect for them, you won't be winning races. You won't be a winner or a Chinese winner in world sport because you're only in an Alfa, only in, you know what I mean? You're in an Alfa Romeo Sauber and not a Red Bull.


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[Assistant] And he said, gave a very thoughtful answer about, yes, how that, how that is the case. But if we're talking then that actually Fernando would seem that the driver has rather a lot of him, you know, maybe it's not 50% car, 50% driver.


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[Assistant] If the margin is such that Cecho is not delivering at Max's level, but he's still in a Red Bull, yet Fernando in a car that's demonstrably slower than Aston Martin, not much, but demonstrably slower, can make that difference and finish above him, then that's what gives him the, uh, the assuredness. But how good must Verstappen be if Cecho's good, and then how much


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[Assistant] Sorry to get scientific here. The whole torso of a bird, then clearly if it had blocked a brake duct, then he wouldn't have finished. The brakes are so on the edge. That's kind of what I was thinking. He wouldn't have finished. Or they would have had to pit stop him and then someone would have to, you know.


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[Assistant] Right, what you telling me for? Yep. Alright, Mr. Empathy. Sorry, I shouldn't go on about that.


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[Assistant] Back didn't particularly suit Red Bull because it doesn't have any fast corners, and he didn't need to.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that does go back to my, well, there are 3,912 races per season, so it doesn't really.


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[Assistant] They've got some, they've got a small amount of people going. I mean, there's a lot of movement amongst all the people, actually. There are people leaving Mercedes, there are people leaving Ferrari, people going to Ferrari, people leaving McLaren, so going to McLaren. So yea, there is a bit, but yea, they show no sign of backing off any of those achievements.


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[Assistant] The passing of Dietrich Matschitz, and we'll talk about this probably when we get to Austria in a couple of weeks time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, first race at the Red Bull Ring that he put so much money into and refurbished and everything. And first race since Dietrich Matschitz has not been in charge. You know, even since the, the, the transformation to, uh, Mark Matschitz, who's now in charge of the whole thing and his three deputies.


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[Assistant] There's one person in charge of Red Bull production, one in charge of finance, and then there's a chap called Oliver Mintzlaff who's in charge of sporting, uh, and marketing.


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[Assistant] Performances, no not performances. Uhm, things that Red Bull do.


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[Assistant] Operations, which includes AlphaTauri, which includes AlphaTauri and Level Racing. So even through the Mintzlaff era, Mintzlaff realizes that, you know, they're doing something right. What Mintzlaff might have suggestion to change is the team who are now last in the constructors since Williams and Alex Albin's P7, which is AlphaTauri.


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[Assistant] And he'll think about this, what are we doing with a team that's first and last? You know, what's going on?


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[Assistant] I was in a passport queue at Milan's Linarte Airport at Monza and behind me in the passport queue


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[Assistant] Was this guy about five foot seven, sort of ginger hair.


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[Assistant] And I recognised him, I knew him because you know, I know my stuff, as the F3000 team boss of Arden.


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[Assistant] Who ran various people with a bit of Red Bull signage. Christian Horner. I knew he ran it with his dad. Did I say Ginger Head?


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[Assistant] I know what color his hair is. It's a bit more grey now. The reason I know is because he's the same age as me. That's depressing though, isn't it?


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[Assistant] And, uh, he said, yeah, I'm, uh, I'm actually in Formula One next year. I'm going to be a team boss, uh, of a team boss. And I was like, are you? Okay. Well done.


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[Assistant] So, uh, yeaah, he would have been 30, 31. I was like, okay, right, well, you know, good luck with that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, oh, it's my turn for the passport, is it? Right, okay. Uhm, that was my memory of 2004.


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[Assistant] No, I mean it hadn't occurred to me.


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[Assistant] But he was clearly a guy who was smart and...


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[Assistant] For him to have the trust of Dietrich Matschitz at 31, 32, 33.


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[Assistant] Something that I always think about Adrian Newey is, is something he said at McLaren actually, uhm, a while ago. He says, as a creative person,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I thought, well, you're an engineer, but I suppose you are a creative person. I always worry about where the next creative impulse is going to come from.


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[Assistant] And he's thinking, I hope that doesn't dry up. You know, that I don't have a thought about


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[Assistant] You know, the seagull proof break duct. And uh, you know, I'm going to design that next.


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[Assistant] Which I think is good because you can get tied, not that I know anything about doing the NCFD, but apparently there are shapes that you can do and ideas that you can have which are easier drawn on a drawing board with a pencil and some slide curve rulers.


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[Assistant] Uh, from the FIA as to why this was. So I believe, and if you look at your sporting regulations, I know you all have saved on your computers and phones readily available while you're watching the race and go to article 56 or something is safety cars or is it 55 and go to 55.5.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it says no car, it's sort of catch-all phrase for doing what Lando did, which is that no car can be driven unnecessarily slowly under a safety car.


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[Assistant] Now, in previous years, if, you know, so what Lando was trying to do was when cars are running 1-2 on the road in the same team,


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[Assistant] Sorry to make that clear. And they want both to pit.


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[Assistant] Then, it doesn't make any sense for them to follow each other around very closely, come into the pits together, one guy gets serviced, comes out, while the other guy waits and loses loads of time, for two reasons. First of all, that other guy loses loads of time. Secondly, he blocks the other driver downstream in the pit lane, their pit box, so it's just not practical.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and thirdly, it doesn't give the mechanics a chance to get the old tyres out of the way and get the new tyres in. So there's many reasons, three reasons, why you don't come in Linerstern if you're running 11th and 12th. I think they were at the time on 9th and 10th. So Lando dropped back a bit.


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[Assistant] To allow himself a bit of time for Oscar to come in, get serviced, I think it was that way around.


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[Assistant] And so that he wouldn't block anybody. So there's no ten car lengths. That's not the rule. That's only for the leader in. Right. It's driving unnecessarily slowly.


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[Assistant] But what, the reason the FIA did Lando under the sporting code on unsportsmanlike behaviour is that they felt this was, uhm, done in such a way as to disadvantage the people behind him and in a sort of unfair sporting way.


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[Assistant] They gave a precedent for Giancarlo Fisichella, I think in 2005, when this was last done. Straight away, someone was there saying, well, we did this, uh, some almost 20 years ago, uh, 18 years ago, um, with Fisi, remember him? Um, uh, and so they felt it was done in a way that they would rather, and I think it was the stewards choice,


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[Assistant] I don't know. Maybe. It's up to the stewards to decide if it's pay or fine. But if you're guilt, I think that was my question.


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[Assistant] In the race, I was like, well, why not do him for going unnecessarily slowly, which he was to gain a competitive advantage. The FIA say, well, he was gaining a competitive advantage in such a way that was detrimental to the principle of sporting fairness in Formula One and they want to crack down on it. So I think it was laying somewhat of a marker in the.


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[Assistant] In the, uh, in the sand, even though it would probably have amounted to the same penalty.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Lando's reaction was, well hang on.


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[Assistant] The tolerances for driving unnecessarily slowly or not driving unnecessarily slowly.


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[Assistant] I didn't see it because I was down at McLaren, but Alonso did have to...


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[Assistant] Talk about Gunter Steiner, when Gunter brought it up after Monaco, he was then penalised, he was censured.


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[Assistant] Censured by the FIA for speaking out about it in a kind of misunderstanding of the word layman.


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[Assistant] What they didn't like about it. So McLaren have learnt from that and McLaren were very keen


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[Assistant] Not to say anything about sportsman like, about the Lando penalty.


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[Assistant] Lest they get a reprimand from the FIA.


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[Assistant] And if the teams aren't feeling like they can say anything about the FIA without getting called before the stewards themselves for afters like Gunther was, then is it incumbent for the media to ask the questions? I suppose it is.


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[Assistant] I absolutely agree, and let's, you know, the F1 Academy thing at the moment is, as you say, wouldn't have happened without those, it is carrying on, and is providing that, uhm,


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[Assistant] Springboard, I guess, for, for female talent to come in, but let's not forget.


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[Assistant] And that hundred and fifty, another hundred and fifty thousand euros is matched from formula one.


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[Assistant] into the racing teams and that enables them to go racing. W series was free.


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[Assistant] For anybody who was good enough. Any driver who was good enough to enter. Not only was it free, it paid prize money.


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[Assistant] It was a, it was a paid job and all you had to do as a driver whether you're


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[Assistant] Bruna Tomaselli from Brazil or Bianca Bustamante from, from, um, Philippines? She's from Philippines.


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[Assistant] Prize money for winning, which Jamie Chadwick did of course those three times, and then down to participation money, and all your meals and all of that.


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[Assistant] So that's a key difference and it's one of opportunity. And that was a well, as well as the things that, you know, I mean, I got involved with W Series at the beginning because they were good people, you know, Catherine Bourne-Mure and her whole team there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it was nice to work with good people like yourself and everybody, you know, on the TV side and it was, it was a good team and it was good people and I believed in it and it was that opportunity of giving people like Alice Powell who had done very well in her previous career,


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[Assistant] Of how these incredible women racing drivers hadn't quite got the brakes that maybe some male counterparts would have been able to.


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[Assistant] To get in there and show what they could do, you know, and that was just what I think, you know, the youngsters, Abbie Pulling.


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[Assistant] Now, Abby Pulling can afford to do the F1 Academy because Alpine are sponsoring her and she's got backing. So what we need, and this was a question I asked Lewis Hamilton, because Lewis Hamilton, to my almost certain knowledge, was the only driver who bothered to come down to the public service paddock.


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[Assistant] And I asked him on, uh, Friday, Thursday, what he felt still needed to be done.


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[Assistant] To continue the work or to, to, to get to w series. And you know, he was looking at companies coming in and I don't think w series were too far away. I don't think you're talking about


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[Assistant] Tens of millions of pounds that W Series fell short by. It was, it was not, certainly not multiple tens of millions. In the grand scheme of F1 sponsorships and stuff that's going on, the amount of money that's in F1 at the moment.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't have been much for one of the sponsors or somebody to have.


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[Assistant] Throne W Series, the Lifeline, and maybe in administration it might yet still. We don't know, Dave Ryan's still got the cars, you know, the cars are available. They could, through the administration process, I know the administrators have talked about how they want to keep it going as a going concern, if at all possible.


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[Assistant] Maybe it could still carry on, but there wasn't too much money that was still needed. And Lewis was talking about, look, there just needs to be this sort of commitment. You know, put your money where your mouth is. All these people who want to carry on the cause of, of, of a female drivers in F1. And you know, maybe it'll take five years, maybe it'll take 10 years, but you know, we will get a female Formula One driver.


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[Assistant] Abby Eaton made the point, I think, this weekend on her social media, which is saying she's still now, even though W Series hasn't raced for almost a year.


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[Assistant] Young kids, girls coming up to her and saying, oh, you know, you were the one, I saw you racing and I didn't know that women could be racing drivers. My own daughters watched it and was like, oh right.


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[Assistant] Can they be racing drivers? My four year old watched it and was like, I didn't know, she didn't know.


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[Assistant] It's pretty shocking actually, I mean there's Rebecca Clancy from the Times.


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[Assistant] Well that comes to sky, because we've got, we've, you know, we've got Natalie, we had a, we had an all female...


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[Assistant] Presenting impundit line-up in, uh, and commentating line-up in Spain and almost here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Natalie and Naomi were presenting. Yeah. And then it was Rachel and, um, Naomi in the commentary box. Yeah.


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[Assistant] It went by really quickly. I was doing a little bit of hosting with Red Bull and they turned 17 and that was really fun. A little bit outside of my wheelhouse, you know, technical content or hosting, but it was different. And the same thing, like being so busy, the week just went by super fast.


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[Assistant] This is, this is one of the highlights of the calendar. If I could pick a race to go to every year, this would be one of them.


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[Assistant] And after the race, they are measured. They can be measured after qualifying and everything else.


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[Assistant] Less than that, you will be referred to the stewards for a breach. And it's one of those skidwares, one of those really cut and dry things to eliminate people taking advantage of regulations. So setting the ride heights of the car, that determines how low you can do it by how much it wears out.


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[Assistant] Easy, yeaah, that's one of the things, like the front of the car is really good for adding front load and the rear of the car depends a lot more on the philosophy of the window of that car and obviously we saw some teams this weekend trying to get that low as, the rear as low as possible and a low rear ride height is also good for reducing drag, so Ferrari was pretty slick in a straight line this weekend, was it down to that?


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[Assistant] I don't think it's that big. Like 5mm of re-ride height is a first order performance advantage in terms of drag. And if that was where their car needed to be for aerodynamically...


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[Assistant] I think they could have. I did look through it and it was a matter of, you know, that first stop staying at a little bit longer, being a little bit indecisive. It was something like six seconds lost and then another second and a bit in the pit stop suboptimal. So I think


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[Assistant] Louis would have been ahead of Max and then the only question is how would that fight have gone down being on the back foot because the leader.


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[Assistant] People defending tend to lose quite a bit of time and burn up tires quite quickly and the attacker on the last set of tires, they seem to be able to go for quite a few laps. So I genuinely think on pace and merit and performance.


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[Assistant] Looking at the lap times, if he had been able to hold those lap times after the cars in front had pit, if he had, you know, they said we're not going to cover, we're going to wait a couple laps, and then the performance loss, the performance loss for the next three laps was


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[Assistant] Yeah, if they had covered that would have been fine, it's just they were something like a couple seconds ahead before that sequence and then came out a couple seconds behind, so losing six seconds of the tires dropping off, a second and a bit slow on the pit stop.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it was like one of those things, you're going like, alright, maybe the one stop is on, we'll just monitor, oh maybe that lap was just a little bit of a mistake, it's okay, the next lap is substantially slower than that one, you're like, what do we do?


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[Assistant] That's a really bold call considering you have free practice one, straight into park firming, no more setup changes, nobody's done any proper data gathering in free practice one, you have a sprint which doesn't go very well.


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[Assistant] That's a really interesting thing as well because looking from the outside you think it's the pinnacle of motorsport technology, you know, you have all the answers, but the reality is the thing that makes Formula One such a beautiful sport


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[Assistant] Is the uncertainty that the teams have, uhm, aerodynamic windows, the packages, the tire behavior. You have a weekend like a sprint weekend where you have much less data gathering, then you have these things that it's like, then we're getting these races that are unpredictable. Yes, the performance pecking order with Red Bull being so dominant, you know, makes that somewhat predictable.


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[Assistant] Then nothing is a certainty going into these races. They do not have everything figured out. And I think that's good. And to, to one extent that might be a benefit of these sprint weekends as you do get a little bit of chaos. Was that responsible for Mercedes strong performance this weekend? I don't think so. If you look at their performance trends throughout the season.


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[Assistant] I think part of that, the pace from the Mercedes was genuine and I think towards the end you had the compound difference as well which was a strategy thing which you make your bed when you pick the tires you use, max went medium medium.


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[Assistant] There was an issue with the material because I think he did change, did he change the brakes Saturday night?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so sometimes the bite and performance of a set, and we've seen that loads of time in the past, like you have a set and for whatever reason, carbon-carbon material is another one of those things like tires, it is...


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[Assistant] But I don't feel like we've seen that level of reaction in terms of head down the season in the dialogue between GP and Max. So that tells me.


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[Assistant] Lost a load of time defending, making sure, you know, 11, 12, those are big stops. And if you get those wrong, that could be a couple of tens of a second and you're overtaken. Done.


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[Assistant] It was interesting to see that, so I think the challenge from Mercedes was real.


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[Assistant] And I had this conversation, so I had the chance to talk to Max, uh, on Saturday for a little bit of like an interview hosting thing. And Max said it perfectly, he's like,


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[Assistant] Me and GP and the rest of the team are always pushing for 100%. Sometimes you have to accept when you're trying to get 100% out of everything, you don't have time to filter out temper and attitudes like, listen, let's just get this done. And that's the thing. And it's, it's, um,


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[Assistant] Could be short with you in the same way you see GP giving back that tough love to say, trust us, we're on the pit while we have all the eyes on it. This is what we should do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's also a really good thing, like it's, like you see some junior drivers, they'll sit in a lot of the meetings, but you're, you seem super integrated and you know all the voices and that's just gonna, like, how much is that gonna be helpful for you just to jump straight in the car and be like, yes, this is a new car with a new team, but,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you've, it's like everything is working out to make sure that you can get the most out of that and just flawlessly hop in.


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[Assistant] McLaren said this pretty early at the start of the season, like we, we know we hit, missed some targets with efficiency and everything else. And it looks like they've just found a good way to add downforce and remove drag. The holy grail. You know, if you could do both those things, great. And they identified some things they did wrong and they've done that. And sure enough.


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[Assistant] And since then, you know, that was a big, that was a step change. We saw that around, I guess it was Spain, Austria, you know, you saw.


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[Assistant] This is a serious challenge now and they still, after that, talked about some of the handling issues they had, especially, you know, through corner balance from entry to apex, which was problematic. But they've, they found that thread.


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[Assistant] And they've continued to chip away and add to that getting closer and closer and closer to the front. So that's one of those things like those things that you said that don't happen overnight. Those philosophy changes, it goes from concept in the virtual world in CFD.


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[Assistant] Then you say, okay, that looks like the right directions. Build that in the wind tunnel. Okay, that makes sense. And you still have to go to the track.


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[Assistant] So teams that have an ability to understand the information from the track, relate that back to their tools and improve those tools. But the problem I went back to is before is there is a lot of uncertainty over these things and like sometimes these incremental changes you're measuring a couple of points of downforce which are


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[Assistant] On the edge of what is measurable on track. So sometimes you've got these upgrades.


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[Assistant] Our top speed is improved relative to where it was before for the same configuration. Yes, that is, but it's a long process and it doesn't happen overnight.


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[Assistant] McLarens have definitely found that thread of stuff that's working from understanding what was wrong with the car in the first place.


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[Assistant] They didn't look so bad here though. No, they didn't. I mean, it was, it was a little bit off. I think the tires were one thing for them. Being out of sync with everybody else, it made it look a little bit worse than it was, but the performance was not bad. I mean, the only, you know, bad thing was, it was just, it was Russell's hard stint in the middle looked


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[Assistant] You know, really off-bad, but everything else like McLaren and Mercedes were...


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[Assistant] Probably not dissimilar and we didn't get to see much from Piastri in the race either.


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[Assistant] Two points of view on this because I, you know, I spend most of my time watching the races from home, spending a lot of time with my head in the data, looking at it. My initial impression was good. You know, it gives you as an engineer.


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[Assistant] I would hate sprint race weekends because you get one session to set up the car. You have to make sure that your simulator preparation and all your pre-event work is spot on. And as we discussed before, there is a lot of chaos and uncertainty. So it's difficult. It makes it challenging and throws up on unintentional curve balls. For example,


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[Assistant] Uhm, Leclerc and Hamilton disqualification, that was very likely result of that, so.


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[Assistant] As far as my point of view as being effectively a fan this weekend, enjoying the race from the outside, I think it was great if you're at the circuit and maybe watching at home. You've got.


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[Assistant] Qualifying on Friday, you know, an event where there is an outcome, there is a result, not just circulation of cars. You've got qualifying again on Saturday, you've got a sprint race on Saturday, then you've got the Grand Prix on Sunday, the main event. It's like this whole thing, but from my point of view, the only question I have is,


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[Assistant] Is there so much as too much of a good thing? You know, I feel, as an analyst, I feel overwhelmed. It's literally lots of stuff. After, you know, after Friday's over, there's a disconnect. Saturday seems kind of inconsequential. And at the same time,


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[Assistant] Saturday format doesn't seem different enough from the rest of the weekend, it does feel like.


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[Assistant] A minigame or more of the same, which potentially spoils Sunday in some instances. In this instance, I don't think it did, but I think a lot of people had favorable views of the sprint weekend because we had chaotic sprint races early in the season, mixed wet dry sessions, which


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[Assistant] It's difficult for a lot of fans to say, what is the result? Like in free practice too, you do the fastest slap early in the session.


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[Assistant] And then the rest of the session, they're gathering high fuel data. It's really difficult for fans to on the fly perceive what's their high fuel pace. Even after looking at the data, you don't actually know until you get to Sunday, so.


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[Assistant] You will have people get it right, get it wrong. And like we said, the path to finding performance takes months, months. So if you start on the wrong foot to close the gap.


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[Assistant] And all we want to know is like, you know, we are always speculating about who's the best driver. It's like, oh yeah, but the car's not as good. Put them in the same car.


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[Assistant] Can I rewind actually before we get to that point? Uhm, have you, do you get to spend much time in the simulator?


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[Assistant] Firstly, and just to be given this opportunity by the team to have that much trust and belief from them is incredible and genuinely it's been the best day of my life.


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[Assistant] Uhm, not that I know what a spaceship feels like, but that's the closest I'll probably ever get. The braking, the acceleration, the corner speeds, incredible. Uhm, it's shocking that, you know, it's actually possible.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, it's everything I ever dreamt it to be and more.


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[Assistant] You don't have g-forces and, you know, real kind of feeling, uhm, but it felt very similar to the sim, just with a lot of g-force, uhm, a lot of...


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[Assistant] You know, you stop. When you press the brake, you stop. And you stop fast. Uhm, when you put your foot down, you accelerate, and you accelerate fast. Uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I'm lost for words, to be honest, to be quite honest. It's incredible, as I said, it's been everything that I dreamt it to be and more.


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[Assistant] Incredible, incredible, uhm, we obviously weren't in full qualy mode today, uhm, but,


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[Assistant] Wind direction, every, every single possible thing that you could set, you can set. And we're very, very close to what we're doing in the simulator. Uhm, different modes, etc.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in getting yourself prepared, focused.


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[Assistant] Processes, uhm, there's obviously lots of buttons on the steering wheel, uhm, and that's an opportunity to practice everything that you could possibly need to ensure that I was ready as I could be for this test. Uhm, and yeaah, it has been absolutely key.


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[Assistant] Uhm, not only obviously for today but with racing as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's I guess the next best thing to driving it in real life. Uhm, and it's incredible how close you can get to the real thing. Uhm, it's really, really key. Luckily I'd raced there before, so the circuit I kind of knew. Uhm, so,


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[Assistant] And it's funny because it's only come about, or Sims have always been around, but I feel like since lockdown, uhm, kind of,


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[Assistant] This steering is obviously not light, uhm, but my arms feel fine. Obviously, I didn't do a race run, so it's, I'm not as, I didn't do as many laps as what I would have done in a race, but uhm, I was pleasantly surprised at how I kept my arms up. Having said that, I've done lots and lots and lots


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, pleasantly surprised. My, my, my breaking was, I was hitting...


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[Assistant] Really good peak pressures and things and yeaah. Uhm, but as I said.


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[Assistant] That was not a race run. So, uh, probably be a different story.


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[Assistant] I, I know, I've obviously never driven a Formula One car, I've not driven FIA F2, FIA F3, so it's a massive jump for me. Uhm, but the Sim has gone so well, that's why I guess why, you know,


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[Assistant] The opportunity that I took for myself, so I didn't push at all, I was making sure I was comfortable.


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[Assistant] I knew all the processes, knew where all the buttons were and I just took that time for me to adjust myself, uhm, which is what I needed really. And then first session, you know, was getting faster and faster every single lap. Uhm, and then it was the last two sessions where I was really able to push. Uhm, you know, there was some time in the high speed stuff.


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[Assistant] But honestly, my minimum speed in every other corner, like there were two corners on the circuit where I lost more time than what I would like to, but uhm,


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[Assistant] The rest of the circuit, I was matching, matching others, uhm, so I'm very happy, but I was always expecting to maybe...


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[Assistant] Not be quite so confident around the high speed corners because I haven't done F2 and F3.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, even through the fast corners I was close. So uhm, honestly I'm really happy with my performance today. And uhm, I wanna go again.


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[Assistant] I've had so many people help me along the way. It's not been an easy road. There's been, I've spent many years not racing due to lack of budget. Uhm, just the, the,


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[Assistant] The effort to even get on the grid is difficult. Uhm, it's not easy bringing sponsors on board and it's not easy finding, you know, right fits and everything like that. Uhm, I've got the drives. Uhm, just need to find a way to fund it. Uhm, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] As much as I would have liked to have been racing more, and I'd like to be racing more now, I genuinely, what's led to this, everything that's happened in my career has led to this moment. And if that means I've missed out on some years of racing, then so be it. If it's led to this, it's led to this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I wouldn't change a thing because I think it's made me the driver that I am today. I often, you know, if a drive becomes available.


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[Assistant] The driver I am. So every, if I think back to the whole process, everything has happened for a reason. Uhm, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] I'm frustrating at the time because I'd have liked to have been racing more, but everything happens for a reason, I'm sure of that. And it's led to where I am today, although I'm not finished yet.


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[Assistant] If you, I don't know the real numbers, but if 5,000 kids start carting across the world, every year, start carting. But if only 10 of them are women,


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[Assistant] And people drop out along the way, you know, people up the ladder.


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[Assistant] People drop out because, for many reasons, they've run out of budget, or they're not good enough, or they find other interests, or they're not passionate about it, they're not driven enough to keep going.


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[Assistant] So of course, by law of averages, if we're only starting with 10 women compared to 5,000 men,


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[Assistant] And if your dream is to stereotypically, uhm, the other gender, uhm, so, not, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not just passionate about women in mode sport, I'm passionate about


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[Assistant] People being happy and following their dream, whether that stereotypically, that dream is the other gender's normality.


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[Assistant] But I did excel at sports, but yeaah, uhm, I played football for, or played lots of sports to be honest, but football was my main love at the time. Uhm, I played for Reading, uhm, but one day I went to play golf with my dad.


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[Assistant] And, uh, begrudgingly he did. Um, and luckily for him at the time I was too small. So the age, the height restriction was quite high and I was quite small. Um, but.


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[Assistant] It planted the seed for sure, yeaah. Uhm, and maybe we went back a couple of months later, or we got a phone call saying the height restriction had been lowered, and went back and, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, what I could dream about and won the championship in the first year and then I guess just followed.


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[Assistant] The natural progression and lots of advice off of other people because we didn't really know what we were doing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I was completely oblivious to any outside thing, because I was just a kid that enjoyed driving around in circles fast. Uhm, and yeaah, here we are 20 years later, and I'm driving a Formula One car. I don't think...


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[Assistant] Me or my dad or my mom ever expected it to be become what it has become and


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[Assistant] You know, I'm making a career in motorsport and I don't know what I'd do without it. I'd be lost without it. I think back now and I'm like, what would I have done?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's difficult. It's very difficult. I was...


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[Assistant] As I said, I spent a lot of time not racing, not testing as much as what I would have liked to have been and...


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[Assistant] Even, even as, Matt, as you said, with football.


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[Assistant] Accessible is probably the right word. Yeah, this is far less accessible. It's very expensive. It's very unique and, um, specialist, I guess. Um, so yeah, to, to, to get the practice in and, but this is where simulators come in. So I spent a lot of my time on simulators, um, cause I lacked track time, did a lot of sim work.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which again, you know, good simulators are expensive, so it's still not quite as accessible. Uhm, but yeaah, sadly I fell in love with this sport. And do you know what? I sit here now.


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[Assistant] And I think still 20 years later, I love it as much as what I did 20 years ago. And I'm like, I wish one day I'd just wake up and not love it as much because then it wouldn't be, then I wouldn't be on this roller coaster all the time of I'm racing and then I'm not and then I'm racing and then I'm not.


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[Assistant] A friend of mine that was working, uhm, at Aston Martin.


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[Assistant] When it first became Aston Martin and he phoned me and he said, you know, we may have this role available. Would you, would you be interested if it became available?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I didn't hear anything for six months, so I had a long way about hearing nothing. I thought maybe, you know, I don't know, got lost along the way or something.


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[Assistant] Uhm, your contract will be with you within, you know, the next week or so, and it was a long process, but then all of a sudden it happened very, very quickly, uhm, and it very much started.


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[Assistant] As a promotional role, lots of work with the sponsors, uhm, quickly turned into hot laps, uhm, simulator work.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which was obviously very welcomed. Uhm, and since then she's grown and grown and grown. Uhm, and here I am driving a Formula One car.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I sit in on the briefings, the debriefings, listen in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, hotlaps as well sometimes. Hotlaps are not at every circuit, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Media dinners, uhm, lots of appearances, things like that. It's a great weekend because I'm, I'm very involved in the racing. I feel as much as part of the team as anybody else and uhm, yeaah, thoroughly enjoy myself.


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[Assistant] They are incredible, but also I get to work with Pedro, with Lance, with Stoffel and Felipe. So I'm able to pick up and each driver works in slightly different ways. They have different processes slightly.


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[Assistant] Uhm, different driving techniques. So, yes, whilst okay, I haven't been able to directly compare.


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[Assistant] Because whilst I was racing in the W Series, I racing Formula One, I haven't been able to like directly compare their data because they're very different cars.


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[Assistant] I have been able to pick up processes, things they look for, how they work with their engineer, different ways of communication.


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[Assistant] All different various ways that I've got. I've had the luxury of being able to work with those people and


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[Assistant] Pick up as much as I can. Uhm, so I've been in a very fortunate position there.


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[Assistant] Their brain capacity, I guess, is huge. But he's been doing it a long time and he's very experienced, isn't he? So uhm, yeaah, lots of, you know, what he does...


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[Assistant] When you've, I feel like when you've driven a Formula One car or any car for that amount of time, you've got so much other space in your brain for other things. Uhm, yeaah, but.


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[Assistant] Being able to, I remember myself racing, looking on the big screen, where is everyone else? Uh, do I, do I, how much of a gap do I have? And things like that.


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[Assistant] I guess is maybe a good way to explain it. Uhm, mapped out, dangerous stuff. Uhm, jumping cars, crashing, organized crashes. Uhm, organized crashes. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Uhm, sequences as well. I guess the stunt driving is, uh, uh, it's difficult. I'd say it's the same set of skills, just used in a completely different way.


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[Assistant] Obviously when I'm racing, I'm competing against everybody that I'm driving with, whereas the stunt driving, everybody's working together to achieve the perfect shot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. Very, very different and not something that I ever saw myself going into.


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[Assistant] I love it, I love it. I mean, it's difficult to fit in with the Formula One calendar.


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[Assistant] But that only really came about one time when, so I was, I was leading the championship that I was in at the time, but I didn't have the budget to continue the rest of the season. So I had the, I had the budget for the first three races, uhm, which I won all three of them actually. Uhm, but I didn't know if I was going to be able to finish the season.


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[Assistant] God, I've not done any of that stuff, obviously in racing.


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[Assistant] I didn't know that. I valued my driving license too much. Uhm, but I, because obviously in racing, as soon as you go sideways, you're slow. So I hadn't had the opportunity to do any of that really. And, but nevertheless, I got an audition.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got an audition. The only place that I could find to teach me how to drift and donut and stuff was a place called Ireland, like a day or two before my audition.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that's how the job came about because it was very much in the drifting world, like the stunt world that they were advertising to, but when they were still looking for a female, that's when they put it out a bit further.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, I went to my audition the next day and then, you know, there was lots of females turned up. They'd come from all around the world, I guess. And uhm, I probably started as one of the worst because I was, I guess, against people that do it day in, day out. But my rate of progression was really strong.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then after the second day, I got the job. And honestly, I think it was my rate of progression that got me the job. Uhm, and spent...


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[Assistant] Two or three months, my 9 to 5 job was drifting and...


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[Assistant] Crashing and jay turning and doing all those cool stuff. So yeah, I had the perfect training ground really. You couldn't pay for that experience. And so then I went off and did that. Um, and at the time, sorry, going back, it's really long. I'm sorry. No, no, it's good.


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[Assistant] I was leading the championship I was in, so I've got this job offer, I was leading the championship I was in, and everybody around me, close to me, was saying to me


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[Assistant] Jess, don't take this job because you're just about to crack the racing. You're just, you know, you're leading the championship and we'll get the budget and, but from experience, mm, mm.


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[Assistant] I knew how difficult it was to bring the champ, to bring the budget in. You know, regardless of leading the championship, still difficult.


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[Assistant] I'm going to do it and I went off and I did it and it was one of the most incredible experiences I've ever done. As it happened, I was able to finish the championship as well.


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[Assistant] But then the season after I wasn't able to race, I couldn't bring the budget in, despite the great championship that I'd had.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then I went sun driving for a good few years. Uhm, one of the most amazing experiences I ever did. And then it was only W Series that allowed me to go racing again. Uhm, that's the only reason I'm back, I guess, is because of W Series.


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[Assistant] And don't get me wrong, I still had the opportunity to do the odd race here and there, which I was able to do, but I found it impossible to bring the budget on. But had I been able to bring the budget on, I probably would have had a very, very difficult decision to make then.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but as it happened, all worked out, and this goes back to everything happens for a reason, Matt. And uhm, I don't regret any decision that I make, cause...


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[Assistant] I've had a ball along the way as well, and I'm, as I said earlier, I may not be exactly where I want to be, but I'm exceptionally proud of where I've come in my journey. Uhm, but yeaah, keep pushing, keep pushing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was actually a British drawing card scene that approached me.


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[Assistant] I finally get a phone call off the team manager and he said, I've got this opportunity for you, but...


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[Assistant] So I thought, oh my god, he's gonna offer me a drive. For free. Like, why else would he be calling me?


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[Assistant] Yeah, as it happens, it wasn't. It was to be the pilot for their world record attempt. But yeah, it was another incredible experience. But yeah, officially,


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[Assistant] Fastest lawn mower in the world. And it's only unofficial because when you go for a world record attempt like that involves speed and things like that, you have to have, I think it's five or six different ways of...


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[Assistant] Well, look, we're a lot further forward than what we were, and I'm happy for any steps that we take. We just need to keep pushing, if I'm honest. Uhm, I think I'd probably speak, I mean, I don't want to speak for everyone, but certainly my generation, uhm, we don't,


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[Assistant] If we need a championship that's females racing females, then so be it. If that's what we need to increase profile and increase visibility, I think it's absolutely fantastic and I'm a massive, massive supporter of it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I also think, obviously, we've got a lot to thank W Series for on that front. Uhm, they were, I guess, the leaders behind it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, F1 Academy's been incredible this year, and uhm, long may it continue to prepare more women for the journey ahead of them. Uhm, I think it's fantastic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, of course. And I for sure think that F1 Academy is going to prepare.


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[Assistant] Uhm, more women to be ready for those opportunities should they arise. Uhm, and I think it's great, you know, if we...


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[Assistant] I'm a massive massive advocate of it, and I think it's fantastic, and I'll never ever ever


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[Assistant] Uhm, hear a bad word said about either championships, W Series or F1 Academy.


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[Assistant] But realistically, for sure, I don't think it's going to be within the next two or three years, unfortunately. It hurts me to say it, but being honest, I think that that's probably right.


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[Assistant] I think that we've previously had females that are good enough. We've had females that have had the backing behind them.


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[Assistant] But have we had a female that's had the full package? I'm not sure. But I think what this F1 Academy will do is create the opportunity for


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[Assistant] A female with every single piece of the puzzle that is needed, uhm, create more opportunity to find that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there are other opportunities, perhaps shows or demos or, I don't know, sponsor events or I don't know. Uhm, I'd like another test of course. Uhm, and I'll push as hard as I can for that.


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[Assistant] I want to go racing, Matt. I'm not racing as much as I'd like. I am racing this year, actually, in, in, in a championship, uhm, Prager cars. Uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, it's great to be involved in that, but that, I don't just wanna race that, I wanna, I wanna race an Aston Martin GT3. That's my goal, that's what I'm trying to find the budget for. And uhm, that's what I'll continue to do, but my career is not over yet.


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[Assistant] But many years left in me. I'm still as passionate and I won't give up until I'm racing what I want to be racing. But yeaah, it's great to be involved with the university and great to help nurture and help.


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[Assistant] That generation as well because they're, they're the students and, and I guess the kids that we're going to see working in Formula One one day.


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[Assistant] It's a male. Uhm, but yeaah. Look, we're so much further forward than what we were. We just need to keep pushing. And uhm, I'm proud to be one of the...


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[Assistant] I think on a scale of 1 to 10, uhm, I'm not doing too bad for a 75 year old man. Uhm, who just- Is that how you feel? I do feel a little bit like that. It's weird.


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[Assistant] I'm very good at sleeping, but I didn't sleep a lot last night at all. There was a lot of noise on the plane. Uh, Bernadette Collins.


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[Assistant] Rather loud child, that three rows behind me, uhm, and two people having a conversation at a level where it kept me awake, but I couldn't quite decipher all the words that were being said, but they were kind of shouting at each other across the aisle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like, speak up a bit and I'll join in. Keep it a bit quiet and I'll go back to sleep again. But don't keep it as it is. But you know what Matt, it doesn't matter how little sleep I got.


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[Assistant] The mere fact that you also travel back. Well yes, I didn't want to mention it, you know, I didn't want to mention it. I look 10 times better than I do and Pink have had the weekend off, you know, it makes me feel even better. You have more sleep than both of us put together. Which makes a nice change. Happy Mother's Day for you today. Thank you.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I am gonna change my word. Because I was gonna go for expected, because the result was exactly what I expected, Perez to beat Verstappen, to beat Alonso. But I'm gonna go swan-like.


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[Assistant] Because you think it's serene at Red Bull at the moment and I think under the water there's a lot of legs kicking and I'm not quite sure everything is exactly


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[Assistant] How Christian Horner would like it and how the team would like it for a smooth


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[Assistant] Domination. They are dominating Formula One on the track at the moment. But they came very close to not having that 1-2 in Bahrain.


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[Assistant] They had issues in the race yesterday. I think if you look in the cool down room after the race, there is still friction between the two drivers and Sheko was not a happy man, being asked to do target lap times that were slower than his teammate. And as for his teammate's dad,


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[Assistant] All is clearly not well, in Jost Verstappen's mind, when his son finishes second, leads the world championship, and he can barely break a smile. But being front and centre. What was going on there?


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[Assistant] He looked very grumpy, twice, as did Max's manager, Raymond, as well. So if they're listening to the podcast, guys, come on, smile. For heaven's sake, you're about half a postcode clearer than the rest of the field. It could be worse.


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[Assistant] I think technically it's worth pointing out that transmission is the problem for Red Bull. Maybe a bit of overheating at times as well, but as I say, Bahrain and


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[Assistant] Reliability could be a key, uh, is to a lot of other teams at the moment as well. Uhm, that fractious nature between Perez and Verstappen and Perez is in the last year of his, uh, of his deal at Red Bull.


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[Assistant] So, if there's no signs of another deal coming, what's in it for Sergio to start helping his teammate in the way that Red Bull would quite like? But they have got a huge amount of pace. They've done a superb job with this car, which should be applauded and not seen as a negative.


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[Assistant] You know, we all applauded, you know, McLaren back in the day when Pross and Senna were winning everything. We should, and we applauded Mercedes for the job they did at the start of the turbo hybrid era. We should applaud Red Bull for this too, because excellence is what we want to see in sport.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think there are, there are a few banana skins down the road.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's doing one, one thirty. Thirty two six plus four. Um, yeah, basically.


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[Assistant] Max, Max was there, safe in the knowledge that he could.


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[Assistant] When you're alone in the cockpit, and we, we don't know this, that's because we're not racing drivers, but you know, you can, you can empathize with the paranoia that must go on in Checo's brain where he's had this perfect weekend.


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[Assistant] But he knows that at some stage his teammate is going to be scheming to get as much out of it as he possibly can, because that's what Max does and that's what any racing driver does.


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[Assistant] Yes, please do. So Fernando puts his car on the grid and he is quite significantly, uhm, out of position.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they can and did last year extend the yellow line from the side of the box because drivers were complaining about visibility. It's happened twice already this season. I think they might need to extend it a bit more.


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[Assistant] And the, the, the wheel browse I think are causing drivers some issues on that one. Saying that, you know, eh, Fernando's parked his car


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[Assistant] He's either done it by chance and he's made a mistake or he's trying to get a little bit further down the inside to try and get past Sergio because he's got that inside line going for the first turn.


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[Assistant] Look, it could, it could be an absolute genuine mistake on this one.


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[Assistant] As we'll get onto in a moment, there's a meeting of the Sporting Advisory Council on Thursday and I'm sure that sort of thing is going to be discussed between the sporting directors and the team managers and the FIA.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's a, it's a hard and fast rule, isn't it? You've got to be within your pit box and he wasn't. So therefore it's a, it's a slam dunk, five second penalty on that one. But that isn't the issue. The issue here is that he came in to serve his penalty and, uh, this is what lap 18?


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[Assistant] It is easier to touch the car with a rear jack this year because the ride, the rear ride height is lower.


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[Assistant] Certainly on that Aston Martin. And it's not as easy to get the jack underneath without touching the car.


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[Assistant] Now you can argue to the cows come home, does that give you an advantage or not if you're touching it?


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[Assistant] But in a sport where thousands of a second, uh, are often the difference between success and failure.


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[Assistant] With the wording saying, you can't work on the car, just touching the car.


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[Assistant] constitute as working on the car. So we can have that debate now. What do you say, Nats?


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[Assistant] What do you want? Do you want a sport that makes an instant decision that might be wrong?


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[Assistant] Well the inference is that somebody has alerted the race director to there being a possibility that something was wrong at Alonso's pit stop. Well who would do that?


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[Assistant] You know, the inference is another team would have alerted the race director to this and whilst team principals can't talk to the race director, the sporting director, team manager, still can.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and don't forget the teams have a whole load of people back at base that are watching and scrutinising footage and looking for, you know, possible misdemeanours that they can turn into their favour.


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[Assistant] So the argument, this could have been cleared up 20 laps previous, doesn't really wash with the timeline because the remote operations centre weren't looking at it, the race director wasn't looking at it, the stewards hadn't been asked to look at it.


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[Assistant] I think you do, uhm, from my knowledge I think you've got 30 laps and I think it came in right on the 30 laps. Oh really?


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[Assistant] Because, but you would do, if you were another team wanting...


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[Assistant] To, um, wanting to get it re-examined, you're not going to give Aston Martin the chance to make up a 10 second gap. True. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, from Mercedes and from Aston Martin about the possibility.


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[Assistant] And so it was a pretty instantaneous decision as far as these things go, albeit it was done after the podium.


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[Assistant] Only if George Russell was still wearing his crash helmet, to be fair. I wouldn't want to be the person to wrench it from Fernando.


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[Assistant] Well, they'll build up a file of various instances, um, at races.


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[Assistant] They'll go back many, many years on this one, but I doubt they had to go back this far.


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[Assistant] Well, we have, we have stuff like here at Sky all the time, don't we? We have a system where we can pull up, um, things on the track and off the track and, and, and they will look at areas where they will need this cache to use in defense should a problem ever arise.


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[Assistant] Uhm, teams for instance will practice pit stops serving a 5 second penalty.


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[Assistant] During the course of the weekend, they'll look at how many times on average they get a five second penalty and then they'll work out the percentage of how many times they need to practice it during the course of the weekend. So they're always looking at whatever eventualities that need to be practiced or taken into account for.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but Andy Stevenson, he was the sporting director at, uh, Aston Martin. Basically your rules are regs, man. He sits on the pit wall.


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[Assistant] So Andy is your rules and regs man, and he will basically be on the phone to the team back at their mission control at Silverstone to say, right, okay, I think we've got instances that we can call upon, I need this, this, and this. Now I did see Andy after the race, he was on the phone a lot.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was looking very stressed, but he was, he has like an hour, an hour's timeframe.


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[Assistant] Once a document is published, uh, to decide what they're gonna do. What I think happened was...


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[Assistant] Aston Martin knew there was no appeal process because it was a time penalty and you can't appeal a time penalty.


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[Assistant] But they did ask for a right to review, and they're very different things. The right to review is where you go to the, to the FIA and to the stewards and you say, we've got new evidence that you didn't have when you made your decision.


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[Assistant] And because of that new evidence, we think you might want to change your mind, because we think we were in the right, you think we were in the wrong, but this new evidence might actually back up our case more than yours. Rather than an appeal that just says, oh you can't do that, that wasn't fair.


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[Assistant] You have to have new evidence for the stewards to hear that review.


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[Assistant] If you don't understand all the nuances, it can be quite off-putting.


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[Assistant] You can't, you can't simplify everything all the time in life.


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[Assistant] Let's be honest. Sometimes things have to be done properly and processes have to be put in place. Now what I would say on this is I do think the rule book, the sporting regulations are getting very complex and the technical regulations too and are getting ever elongated.


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[Assistant] And Steve Nielsen, who's gone from Formula One, Liberty, to the FIA as their sporting director. One of the things I think Steve's going to look at is how to simplify the rule book. But I'm just going to give you a little for instance here, from last night.


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[Assistant] Leading team members at a Formula One team. I went, right.


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[Assistant] Thursday, Sporting Advisory Council, you're going to get together, the rules are going to be rewritten. Well, I wouldn't say that, Crofty. Well, why not? Well, it's very technical, it's very complicated. I said, no it's not, just make sure you can't touch the car. Well, you can't have that. Why can't you have that? Well, what about the front jack? What about the front jack?


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[Assistant] If the driver comes in, and he brakes a bit too late, he doesn't stop on his marks, and he hits the front jack, we're going to get a bigger penalty. So, well yeah, fine.


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[Assistant] The front, the front jack doesn't need to be there. It's not a fast pit stop. It's got five seconds where the car stopped to get in there.


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[Assistant] But the teams will find reasons why it's not very simple.


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[Assistant] So maybe, I'm going to suggest this right now, it is time to think once again about how much involvement the teams have in shaping the rules and regulations of Formula One. Because I think one of the cruxes to this argument, and maybe one of the big problems, is that the teams have too much influence on the rules and regulations.


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[Assistant] And in no other sport really do the competitors have that much influence. So if we want to simplify things and we want to make it...


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[Assistant] Easier to understand and not have quite so many rules and regs for the future. So fan palatable, I like this one. That's good. Yeah. If you want to focus on the fans and, and, and we should be doing helping the fans get the most enjoyment out of the sport that we all love, then maybe take the team's influence away.


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[Assistant] These pitstops are always going to be quite slow when you're serving a penalty anyway, because the car's stationary, and everyone's waiting, and then they have to, you know, get in there with a wheel gun for seconds. The car's moving and the wheel gun's attached. That's how they get it done so fast.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe there's an episode in Drive To Survive where actually we could stop going around Christian Horner's house and maybe we could go to the FIA stewards room and we could actually look, uh, at detail, simplified detail of the sport to help people


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[Assistant] We are in the entertainment business and Formula One has done very well to...


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[Assistant] Trying to engineer results just to make it a spectacle.


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[Assistant] It has got complicated. The technical breaks are very complicated. Are we at a stage now with Formula One where the best thing to do is to say right.


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[Assistant] We're going to police your accounts, yeaah. We are going to absolutely police your accounts like there's no, like you've never seen before. You've got $200 million a year. Go and do what you want.


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[Assistant] That's, that is your budget, because at the moment the budget caps, uh, 140 million, something like that. Um, but the top three owners and the drivers salaries aren't part of that. Marketing isn't part of that, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] But the thing is, does that then, does that then satisfy...


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[Assistant] The huge amount of fans who have been with Formula One for many many years, who like the complexities, like the technical nuances,


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[Assistant] Not alienating any of the new fans that have come in.


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[Assistant] You know, during the, should we call it the drive to survive era? Yep, I think we should. Which I think, you know, has brought, we know that, because whenever we have conversations, you know, with people who are new to the sport, you know, I've been watching drive to survive, it's been brilliant, you know.


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[Assistant] And I do hope that on Thursday of this week, as we record this on a Monday, the rules are rewritten to say you can't touch the car. And however, some teams might, you know, think that's not a very good idea. It is a much clearer way. Don't touch the car.


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[Assistant] And then at the end of five seconds, you know, when the stopwatch says five or your team managers counted to five, however the teams do it.


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[Assistant] Some do a verbal count, some do a stopwatch. And is it being checked by the FIA? Yea, the FIA will have their own stopwatch on it.


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[Assistant] So just rewrite it so that no one touches the car. Everyone's in the same boat. They can all hover millimetres away.


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[Assistant] You get electrocuted if you touch it. Okay, so I'll go back. So put some sensors on the car. That's logical, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but sensors of weight. Of course. And that's extra weight. Yeah. And the teams don't want extra weight. And who writes the rules? The teams. See how complicated it gets. Yeah. Well, teams and the FIA.


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[Assistant] I go back to, I want to see the right decision being made, not


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[Assistant] Quick, snappy decisions that could still be wrong.


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[Assistant] 23 races is a big ask, to win every single race.


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[Assistant] I'll pack my sleeping bag next time. DNS did not sleep. They won't, but the other thing of course is that as the season goes on, they get less wind tunnel CFD time than certainly Aston Martin. The fact that we've got an Aston Martin Red Bull battle at the moment is brilliant, because Aston Martin


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[Assistant] Under the wind tunnel and CFD restrictions get 100% of the time because they finished 7th in the Constructors Championship last year. Red Bull gets 70% of the time but because they were naughty boys and girls and overspending on the cost cap reduced by another 10% so they only get 63%.


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[Assistant] So Aston Martin had 37% more wind tunnel CFD time. That equates to about 120 wind tunnel runs in the, in the course of an eight week period. And how long is a wind tunnel run?


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[Assistant] I'm not into variety for variety's sake. I want competition out there, but if one team of Excel's.


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[Assistant] Clark, I'll take you back to Monaco, 2009.


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[Assistant] The shot of Jensen Button running down the main straight because he parked his brawn car after winning.


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[Assistant] In the pit lane and forgotten that he was meant to park it on the grid in front of the road box.


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[Assistant] Where do cars normally pull into at the end of a race? Park Firmway.


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[Assistant] He didn't finish the opening race first time in his career, that he's not finished the opening race of the season. I'm really sorry about this Ferrari fans, but I'm going to give you a little story from the way back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, well, I had a chat with someone from Ferrari and I said, did you turn your engines down in the second part of the race? Because you were okay in the first then. I mean, Charles was coming through quite nicely.


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[Assistant] You know, the safety car caught you out a little bit because they pitted before the safety car. But did you turn your engines down after that? And they said, no. So I went, uuuh. And they went, yes.


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[Assistant] And that, that is where I would worry if I'm Ferrari at the moment. If they were turning the engines down for reliability, then...


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[Assistant] I think teams are finding out that actually it's not as easy to follow the cars this year as it was last year. They're going faster, there's a bit more downforce being created, a bit more turbulent air, tyre construction's different. Things have changed a little bit in terms of how easy it is to follow. But Ferrari were suffering tyre day and that is their main


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[Assistant] I'm going to say it again because it's my favourite gag of the year so far, Achilles wheel, is tyre degradation.


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[Assistant] But while we're trying to demystify F1 a little bit, I did get a tweet last week to say control electronics. How can Ferrari get penalised for that because it's all the same, isn't it? It's not. The control electronics refer to part of the power unit which is spec to all teams or to all power unit manufacturers.


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[Assistant] But there is an ECU that all the teams run, uhm, that is standard and that collects all the data and basically makes sure that the FIA can monitor the car so that the teams aren't cheating or doing anything they shouldn't. So don't confuse control electronics with ECU because some people were last week.


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[Assistant] And that was Ferrari's target, P5 to P7, for a man starting...


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[Assistant] The worry is that they just weren't making any impression in that final stage and Carlos had a target of a podium and they didn't look like they were going to get that.


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[Assistant] See, there's another thing. This worries me a little bit, because going into that race yesterday,


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[Assistant] Talking to the people that we do in the paddock before a race. Nobody was saying they're gonna fight Max if he comes up behind them.


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[Assistant] Because everyone's saying, well they're not our race. Rebel aren't our race at the moment. We're not...


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[Assistant] And then the wind tunnel and the CFD restrictions as well.


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[Assistant] Was to close up the competition so that you weren't going to get a team blasting by as Max did with Lewis and I said like an F2 car, uh, trying to defend against an F1.


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[Assistant] I've got a car waiting for me. I will be asleep within about 20 seconds.


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[Assistant] The best thing in able to cope with what we do for a living is to


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[Assistant] Yeah, I honestly, if ever I'm not driving, I will sleep in a car. I sleep on a train. I get on at Milton Keynes and my body clock wakes me up just as we're pulling into Euston. How it happens, I really do not know. The marvels. But I've developed that one and planes, yeah, I'm asleep before takeoff.


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[Assistant] Let's go to the next. Deal with it. Uhm, has anybody else ever had the spitting reaction?


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[Assistant] The People's Podcast, that's good, I might use that. I've already gained something today from being here with you.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I'm already questioning my agent's decision to put me here. I'll tell you what. Firing that son of a bitch as soon as this thing's done.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's good. It's got a little, it's a little tang, and then here comes the wave. So it's not bad.


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[Assistant] But if I'm thinking that on one, what's gonna happen to me on wing nine? I guess we'll find out.


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[Assistant] Well, I, it was like Roadhouse where we came to this bar that was like a real bad biker bar and they assembled this, you know, crew of, uh,


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[Assistant] But the one time, uh, there was a bunch of bikers came in, kind of the last remnants, and the night ended and it was time for them to leave.


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[Assistant] And they wouldn't go. So I said, you know, can you please leave? And they're like, you have to beat me in an arm wrestling contest.


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[Assistant] What he didn't know was I had learned the secret arm wrestling trick from a guy called Scott Norton who was an arm wrestling champion. Basically, you cock your wrist like this.


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[Assistant] You have your whole upper body to use. Cause more leverage. Yes. Cause it's all about your wrist when you do, when you do like this. So I suddenly did this to the big biker. You look like, you know, it's about 300 pounds, a big beard and dude, I beat his ass quickly. Boom. Get the hell out of here. And they left.


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[Assistant] It really tests your will to be there. Do you really want to do this? Do you want to be a wrestler? Okay, there's seven people out there. That's hard. Anybody can have a great show in front of a sold out crowd. Go out there and connect with seven people. But when I first started, my first match, they wanted me to be Cowboy Chris Jericho.


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[Assistant] And I was like, what? Don't do it. Like, I really have the choice? So I went in there before my first match and told the promoter I'm not being cowboy Chris Jericho.


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[Assistant] Now, I'm a 19 year old nobody. If someone said that to me, I'd be, oh really? You're gonna be the female cowboy, Chris Jericho, and we're gonna put fake boobs on ya, and you know, chaps with no ass in them.


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[Assistant] But the guy's like, okay, don't do it then. But the first program ever says, Cowboy Chris Jericho from Casper, Wyoming.


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[Assistant] Nothing gets to find people from Casper, but never been there before and definitely not from there.


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[Assistant] I mean, Shawn Michaels is my favorite as an opponent and as a performer.


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[Assistant] I was a big Ricky the Dragon Steamboat fan when I was growing up. Steve Austin was great, The Rock was great, but Hogan, for whatever reason, like,


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[Assistant] If you walked in this room right now, everybody would be like, oh my god, it's so cool. Like, you can't believe it.


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[Assistant] Which is what I always try to model myself after. Uh, not him in particular, but being larger than life as a wrestler. I loved Freddie Mercury and Paul Stanley and David Lee Roth. I wanted to be those guys within the wrestling ring.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. Uh, and he, he basically like broke...


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[Assistant] His ankle shattered, his knee, shin, whatever the hell it was. He got up and he did a couple more moves and I was like, man, his timing is bad. Meanwhile, he was still doing all this stuff with one leg. His was broken. He's like, you gotta, we gotta just call this match. So I go to the referee. I start yelling at him. Like, you know, cause I'm trying to get him to disqualify me. So I'm yelling at him, but he doesn't know that the guy is hurt.


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[Assistant] I'm the one who's hurt, don't forget about me. So yeaah, it was a drag and it always sucks when one of your guys gets hurt in a match. But it does happen, you know, it's not ballet is the term that I like to use.


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[Assistant] Maybe I've been underestimating my spicy food powers, cause this isn't bad.


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[Assistant] First things first. Now if that isn't the coolest picture of all time, I live in Tampa and down the street from my house, a billionaire lives there, as obviously, duh. So Arnold was coming to his house to do a fundraiser.


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[Assistant] Cause no one else, no one else is too scared to smoke a cigar cause they'll be scared yelled at by their wives. I'm like, I'll smoke a cigar with you, man. I have no problem.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you've ever had a real expensive, but when you start getting it down, it starts getting you high. Like I started getting buzzed.


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[Assistant] And Rock throws me outside and, uh, I stop and I shut Rock down. I go and Willis says, I'm like, you know, Hudson Hawk sucks. It's a terrible movie. So, uh, Rock hits me and then he grabs me from behind.


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[Assistant] And he goes, Bruce, hit him. And he stands up, and I'm like, okay, so,


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[Assistant] He's either gonna punch me in the face or slap me and like, I can take it, no problem, whatever. So I'm, I got my jaw clenched and I'm ready to go. And he goes and head butts me in the chest.


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[Assistant] And I remember thinking, I was like, how am I supposed to sell this? Like selling rustic, like I can't even register. But people were going nuts, so I was like, aah!


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[Assistant] This one is tangy. Mhm. I'm gonna have my first glass of, uh, sip of milk here.


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[Assistant] So I did a pilot for a show called E-bombs World, which was a website that had all the videos. Now it's a classic.


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[Assistant] Boom. I went, I'm the king of milk drinking. And then I projectile threw up all over the guy's face. It was like Monty Python. I'm the king of milk drinking. You suck. Boom. Uh oh. Hit the cameraman. It was like literally like a hose shooting across the room. Cause it's just like some of it.


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[Assistant] To my stomach, and there was like ten giant ropes of this milk coming out.


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[Assistant] Steve Austin was a great talker, for sure. Cena's really good. Sometimes he gets a little bit immature kid stuff type stuff, but he's really good as well. It's hard, like those ones jump into mind instantly.


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[Assistant] Hulk Hogan was great because at the time in the 80s he was the best promo and you believed everything he said. One time he compared his tricep to Ronald Reagan because Ronald Reagan is just like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Is it more fun for you to play the heal? It's a lot easier to make people hate you at first than to make them like you. But then once they start hating you, it's very hard to keep that going.


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[Assistant] Clap your fucking hands, they go crazy! And he does, and Alice Cooper is like that, the nicest guy you can meet, but on stage it's like, that's serial killer shit, you know? Those are the characters that I always like because they're larger than life.


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[Assistant] And you think it goes away, but it doesn't. You're in the soup. It's like in wrestling, you sell, and if you really get hurt, you don't want to play anymore. I don't want to play anymore. And it also makes me have to spit too. Did you think I was going to throw up there?


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[Assistant] So, there you go. Gotta close it with that for Instagram.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I've had a couple altercations with guys much larger than me and


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[Assistant] People think I'm fucking crazy, and I guess I am. And thankfully they didn't eat my head and kill me.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, those are two for me. Goldberg and one with Brock Lesnar and we'll leave it at that.


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[Assistant] But they're respectfully watching because to them it's a real craft. The performance. Performance. If you do a nice hold, a technical little wrestling thing, they'll all clap. If I take you to the ropes and you know, break, they'll clap for you because that's what you're supposed to do. You are honorable. You follow the rules. Stuff that would never happen here.