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[Assistant] I told you, I, I really, because the more, and Jason said this eloquently.


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[Assistant] No! I told you ahead of time. I am right on the fence. But I can't take the salary out.


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[Assistant] That's like, you know, saying, well take, take, uh, a power hitter's power away from him. Do you still like him? You have to figure everything into the argument.


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[Assistant] If it's in a vacuum and all things are equal, right now I'm 50.1 Deshaun Watson, 49.9 for Brock Purdy. And here's the thing.


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[Assistant] I am still giving Watson credit for his Houston days. However, the more games he plays and looks like Cleveland to Sean, the more his long term projection for me goes down. And the more sample I see of Brock Purdy


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[Assistant] Dismantling great defense. I mean, an all time, we'll find out Sunday what he does against this defense. Yeaah. But that Dallas defense guys is very good. No one will debate that.


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[Assistant] The more I see him put up 42 and three quarters against a defense like that.


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[Assistant] Two is right there, two is definitely top ten, he's not top fifteen. I got, I got two of like six. I got...


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[Assistant] And honestly, the owner had kind of made the decision that, no, he is our guy.


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[Assistant] So, look, go back to the last 11 games. I don't know at what point your sample size is. Okay, that's enough. What is it for you? 26? 32?


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[Assistant] And you know what, Lomas? It's gonna be proven out. I'm telling you, it's going to be proven out.


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[Assistant] You got a guy going back to the time he became a starter, 11 games. So all of the starters in the league going back there, 11 games. He's first in the NFL.


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[Assistant] In fewest interceptions and he's second in the NFL in most touchdowns.


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[Assistant] A lot of those were the first round and second round playoff opponents, but when he gets in the struggle with a Kansas City or a Cincinnati, so while you're scurrying through to find your stats, I'm just telling you what my eyes tell me. He has thrown bad passes in big moments.


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[Assistant] Lomas, back to the Browns offensive line. Uh, and again, I know that you haven't seen every snap like we have.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but there's been some talk that Jed's just not the guy. Now the team picked up his 50 year option.


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[Assistant] You know that Bill Callahan is the guru of offensive lines.


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[Assistant] You also know that left tackles don't fall out of clouds. So what do they do in this situation where they know they've got a guy that is, is


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[Assistant] Maybe not performing poorly, but on certain plays he's performing very poorly. How does that get fixed? Can that get fixed five weeks into the season?


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[Assistant] I think that's what we want to hear. The one thing that's interesting, you say the hand and glove thing, Betonio has been an all, you know, a perennial pro bowler. Uhm, it's interesting that all of the guys on the line that have been pretty solid, all of their PFF grades, for whatever that's worth,


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[Assistant] It seems like everybody is taking a step back and I'm going to get your thought on PFF grades in a second, but it seems like all of their play is stepped back. And again, if a chain is as strong as its weakest link, it makes sense. Guys are having to switch over and help him with protections.


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[Assistant] Well, here's what's interesting. We had, we had one of their guys on, uh, I think maybe last week or a couple weeks ago, and you know, he said they've got, you know, 70 analysts or whatever. But here's my thing. If they, if any of their people were truly great at what they're doing,


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[Assistant] Is the only thing we have. Okay. So we stick our teeth into it, but he played in the league for 12 years. He said.


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[Assistant] I hope he gets in the Hall of Fame. I know he's up for it and he's, he's worthy. He really is. For the length of time he played and I think he's... It's so hard with offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] What do you mean? What are you supposed to know? He said no idea. That means that no one on Wednesday said, get ready kid. I think you got it.


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[Assistant] Get ready. He didn't say he wasn't ready. He said he had no idea. You would have some idea if they came to you on Wednesday and said, Hey, look, kid, no, you wouldn't. Your starters got to have any idea because you don't might be you. That's an idea. This is the way I'm sure.


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[Assistant] In a functional organization, here's what my backup quarterback says after that game. Well, Kevin came to me Sunday night and said,


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[Assistant] Deshaun took a really big hit to the shoulder and we're going to get an MRI on it. We're going to see where he is. But here's what I need you to start doing right now Sunday at eight o'clock in the evening.


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[Assistant] Well, you just said no idea. I do have an idea. The quarterback told me.


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[Assistant] No, I know, but it gives it more credibility. If he's super fan...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I don't look at that as being controversial at all. No idea who's gonna throw the ball to me this week. His preparation's gonna be the same.


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[Assistant] But this isn't a lot of situations. This is a first-time starter, rookie in the NFL. It's different. And in my view, I think Cleveland should have started getting him ready Sunday night when Deshaunt, when I'm sure they were already aware that Deshaunt had a sore shoulder.


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[Assistant] And I'm not going to even blame Deshaun Watson for that because Deshaun was doing what players do. Let me get the shot, wake up Sunday and see how I feel.


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[Assistant] The quarterback said after game two or three, we've got a communication issue here.


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[Assistant] To Sean Watson. After, I think it was, was it after two, at game two or game three? It was after Pittsburgh. Oh, you're right. It was after Pittsburgh. It was after Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] No, and he also talked about Stefanski. He said specifically of talking about fourth downs, like are we going to go for it on this fourth down? There's some, because a lot of times a quarterback, we think that those decisions are made in the vacuum on third down. A lot of times, particularly now with analytics, they have a yellow zone on the field.


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[Assistant] And what the yellow zone is, that's the zone that they're gonna go for it on fourth down.


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[Assistant] And he's in that spot for one reason, because his coach said he was gonna play last Sunday, and his general manager said he's gonna play next Sunday. So I can understand why a former player like Hanford Dixon, who would play with his liver hanging out of his body, I can understand why a guy like that would say, oh no dog, you gotta go. That's because of the messaging from the coach.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski said after the game that it was his decision not to play.


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[Assistant] Well, the reason I ask that is because I wonder, uhm, with burn victims, obviously it's very painful to have any friction on that while it's healing. Imagine putting your helmet on.


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[Assistant] You know that it hurts a lot more once it's scabbing up and it's touched. It's almost like you're ripping that wound open again. And I don't know where we are with him.


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[Assistant] It's like 45 degrees outside, you know, I'm getting chilly.


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[Assistant] I mean, if he does, then like, you're talking about a Brock Purdy level play and I think that is, that is the absolute-


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[Assistant] What this team's had the last 20 years, I mean, that would be welcome versus what it's been.


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[Assistant] It's hard for me to have expectations for DTR because we just haven't seen that much. I don't think that that Baltimore game is really a good read on who he's going to be for the rest of his career or even who he's going to show himself to be because it just, he wasn't prepared. He's admitted it himself. Nobody thought he would play in that game and then he had to play. It's a, it's a rough look.


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[Assistant] Um, so I don't know if I have expectations, but I do have goals for him, right? Like I think if you're DTR and you want to keep this team on track, you're probably looking somewhere within the range of like, what? 1800, 18, well, 1800 yards.


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[Assistant] And 13 total touchdowns, whether it be rushing and passing, um, and six total turnovers. If you could stay within that range of quarterback play with like an 80% rating or 80 rating.


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[Assistant] Then I think you'll be good enough for this team to be able to achieve a lot of the goals that they set out to. Now, obviously when it comes to playoffs, Superbowl, stuff like that, we'll just have to wait and see where they are if this defense can carry a quarterback to that level. And if they're playing at that level at the end of the season, but if they want to make the playoffs, you know,


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[Assistant] And I think one of the big numbers to watch here when you're looking at DTR over the next few weeks and this offense in general is first down.


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[Assistant] How many first downs can they create? They've actually done a decent enough job doing it. Uhm, this year they just haven't finished a ton of these drives, but if they can keep the first downs up, uhm, and again, just be similar to that offense last year where Jacoby said had like, I think,


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[Assistant] On average, 345 first downs if you average his numbers out for a whole season. Uhm, if you can get somewhere close to that, that means you're staying on the field, you're having these long drives, you're getting field goals or touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Out of these drives and then you're asking the defense to just clean up along the edges while you dominate time of possession. If you can be that team, that team does have a higher ceiling than I think people think just because the quarter play isn't great, especially if this defense continues to play at this level, which is not just.


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[Assistant] Best in the NFL. I mean, we're talking about a defense is playing similar to the levels of a 2015 Broncos or 2017 Eagles. Now they got to finish.


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[Assistant] Playing at that level, but we saw what those defenses did to the floor of their quarterback play. They rose them to a point to where you were able to achieve greatness with not great quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, it's not just one game though, Jason. Like, it's been multiple games that they've had good rushing attacks in here. Now, you can-


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[Assistant] I see what you're saying was like, Hey, there's some games where Jerome for it had like a 70 yard run and then they really didn't put anything together play by play.


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[Assistant] And I will agree the Baltimore game was the first one where they were able to run and get those seven 10 yard gashes like they used to with Nick Chubb at will. But that doesn't mean that the run game hadn't been effective to that point. Like it had been effective in all of the wins that they had. It was an effective run game versus San Francisco. It was an effective run game.


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[Assistant] In the context of what we're talking about with other rushing attacks in the league, the Browns are a top five rushing offense. Cause right now nobody is, nobody else is really out running the Brown. So like they're doing a really good job. Jerome Ford's averaging above four and 4.2 a carry. So it's really good.


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[Assistant] Can I ask a more productive question here? Can I ask a more productive question to Bull and Jason? Where do you think that this Russian game is going to go given that Jerome Fords or Young running back who seems like he's starting to put it together? Where do you think they can go at the end of this year?


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[Assistant] In this conversation too. Because the Seattle game is being erased in this conversation. That was another game where the run game carried you throughout most of the game despite the turnovers that you had with PJ Walker in the offense. Uhm, and that was against one of the better rushing defenses in the NFL too. So this is not the first time they've done this against a very good team. They've done this before.


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[Assistant] And if it goes horribly wrong with DTR, you probably would want to go to Joe Flacco. The truth is with DTR coming in to shine out for the rest of the season, we're probably reverting this offense similar to what it used to look like with Jacoby Brissette. A lot of play action, a lot of underneath throws.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and stuff like that. So the skill set needed at quarterback is now different than what you had with PJ who replicates Deshaun's style. So I would look for Joe Flacco to eventually become the backup if they keep him on here and if he stays with the team long enough. Uhm, just in case.


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[Assistant] The rookie does not go well. You have a veteran in there who you feel like can run the offense and be at least a competent game manager. So I really don't mind the, the pickup there. Um, it's a little bit different. It's going to be weird to see Joe Flacco in a Brown's uniform, but I do think that it's a, it's a solid enough pickup because, uh, Joe Flacco has proven he can get rid of the ball.


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[Assistant] He doesn't, he's not gonna throw too many interceptions and he's gonna be super safe with it so it's a good fail safe just in case DTR doesn't work.


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[Assistant] Oh, for this third spot? I mean, Joe Flacco would probably be around the top of it. I mean, the options just aren't.


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[Assistant] That fruitful, right? You're, you're talking about like either you get a young guy like Chris Oladokun who's been on some practice squads and has some promise or you're getting like an old washed up guy or you're like at best in between, you're getting like a Trevor Simeon, right? I think Joe Flacco is a better option than both of those. And if they go with him.


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[Assistant] I have absolutely no problems with it. It's Slim Pickens at this point of season, right? Like if you're talking about getting a...


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[Assistant] Philip, Philip Rivers, that's been out the league for four years or three years at this point, um, and is old or like trying to convince Tom Brady, those just aren't realistic options. Um, I think that that's probably the best you could do. And again, it's going to be about ball control, first downs and time of possession.


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[Assistant] And I think Joe Flacco is the best option out there if that's what you want to do. Um, and if DTR can't get that taken care of.


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[Assistant] With the Browns winning, with the Jets beating the Eagles. Yeaah. With the Giants playing a great game but losing good bills. Damn near beat the Bills. Is why you can't


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[Assistant] Lose your mind every week. You can lose your mind in excitement for the Browns winning, but you can't turn every week into what the team is. It's a week to week league, and this week, more than any other this year, showed you that. That was a great win. And I know they played, it was sloppy, it was ugly.


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[Assistant] And yes, the injuries of course played a factor. So what, as I talk about all the time, injuries are always a factor. And you can't whine about the officials. Our fans do it. Our fans were whining in the first half.


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[Assistant] You don't get off the hook. Yeah, I mean, if I'm a Niner fan, I'm like, okay, it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. The Niners are still the best team in football, despite the way they played yesterday. But yesterday, the Browns beat them! And that's all that matters, and no excuses matter.


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[Assistant] Well the, the AFC North is the only division where all four teams are 500 or better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that was a hold. You can't complain about that. What sucks about that is sometimes you'll say, well, if it wasn't for that holding penalty, we would have had a touchdown. But you can, you can argue. You wouldn't have had a touchdown if it weren't for the hold. Right. If that wasn't the case in this one.


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[Assistant] Wittner had watched the Browns play. I believe that. I don't think he had ever watched them play before he saw the statements or maybe he saw the Ravens game last week only where they played their worst game.


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[Assistant] And again, it's fair to acknowledge that the Niners had injuries within the game. No. And that the weather was bad. It's fair to acknowledge it. No, uh uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was a good one. I love that one. Two guys to me that deserve a lot of credit, we haven't talked about either of these guys a lot this year. One, if you look at the box score of this game,


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[Assistant] And you go to defense and you look at Dalvin Tomlinson, you're not gonna be impressed if you look at the box score. If you did not watch the game. Right. If you just look at the box score, Dalvin Tomlinson says one tackle. Yep. There's no stats. He essentially had no stats. But if you watch that game, he was, that's why


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[Assistant] The stats are almost irrelevant when it comes to defense.


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[Assistant] He's played well outside of the Browns game. That's the Browns defense. Listen, they got to do it for a lot longer before we call them historic on a season.


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[Assistant] But through, here's what's the most important thing, and the only thing that matters, right now. Through five games, the Browns have the best defense in the NFL. There it is. There it is. That's it. End of conversation. Doesn't mean that, they gotta keep it up for the whole year, but through five games, the Browns have the best defense in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And I'm the one who says don't be prisoner of the moment, and don't go crazy. But if we, if we can, it's a big if, we gotta see it, I don't know when he's gonna be back. But if we can get the Watson to play it against Tennessee, then the Browns are as good as any team in football can win at Super Bowl. It's that simple.


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[Assistant] not taking the ball away. that I saw that statue m have four of the best def 18 and think about how man teams have played six gam five. You're talking about


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[Assistant] I'm assuming it's the Niners have two of the top 18. No other team has more than two. The Browns have four.


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[Assistant] And by the way, McCaffrey didn't get hurt until the second half. So it was like that. So that was a factor in the second half, but not in the first half. And I don't care. Debo went out early. Debo I don't care about. Debo's hurt all the time. They've played without him a million times and played great offense. Earlier this year they had a game without him. Earlier this year they had a game without, uh,


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[Assistant] And so McCaffrey wasn't until the third quarter. So I don't want to hear about that. It's hard to say what changed. They're just a really great defense and they knew they had, the only way to win this game was to play great. Was it Schwartz adjustments?


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[Assistant] They averaged less than four yards per play for the whole game.


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[Assistant] Less than four yards per play. Think about that. That's ridiculous. The Niners had averaged.


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[Assistant] As a whole, you're going to have to play way better offensively to do what we hope they can do in the long run than they've played. Their offense has been so far. Eventually you're going to have to beat a whole bunch of good teams in a row in the playoffs. But their defense is going to give them a chance every single week.


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[Assistant] But I thought, I thought it was, you know, Jay, you and I last week said, just stick with DTR, stick with DTR. But the Browns made the right call. In the end, it was the right call. P.J. Walker, if nothing else, there was a little leadership in that. Watching the huddle,


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm expecting, and we should all be expecting, the Browns to go win an Indy, whether, no matter who the quarterback is, because they got a backup quarterback too. And he just drew three picks in their game, and they got bolt-raced by Jackson.


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[Assistant] I thought Kevin Stefanski was great yesterday. He did a magnificent job. He's been unfairly maligned quite often. And I thought he was tremendous. I thought the game plan was great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the only reason, the only reason it was 50-50 is because they had to throw in those last couple of drives to try to come back because they had been run heavy.


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[Assistant] They stuck with it, even, I mean, they were running the ball effectively, but there were times early where they would struggle a little bit with the run and he kept sticking with it. And Kareem, and G was right, good call to use Kareem Hunt, but Jerome Ford in the second half was great.


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[Assistant] He had a lot of big runs. He moved the chains. They didn't get greedy. You know, listen, you were playing with a quarterback who's not a starting quarterback in the NFL. He missed some easy throws on a couple of those last couple of drives. Easy throws. Practice one. Wide open receivers.


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[Assistant] And yet, because of the running game, and because of the penalties, and because of the defense. But, I thought Stefanski


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[Assistant] It was a terrible decision by PJ Walker to throw that ball obviously in the end though. Even if, even if you're supposed to throw there, you only throw it if somebody's wide open. Not into traffic in that situation doesn't make any sense. Never, never. He got lucky and they, but I thought Stefanski had a great game plan. I thought he deserved an A plus for the game.


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[Assistant] Actually the only beef I had with Stefanski was when they...


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[Assistant] That was stupid. That didn't make any sense. That was a mistake by Stefanski. Uh, that was my only beef with him in the game, really.


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[Assistant] You could argue it's a loser mentality. I tweeted, you know, when the Browns were losing towards the end, I'm like, Hey, listen, I think the Browns have played as well as they could today.


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[Assistant] I know, and you were emotional and I get it. Again, if a referee was gonna cheat, he wouldn't make it that obvious.


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[Assistant] It's part of the game. It is part of the game. There's bad calls that go against every team and fans always whine about it for their teams. I can't stand it. You gotta find a way to overcome. And then even the holding penalty on the Niners the next call was very questionable. I thought it was too. But who cares? You gotta break.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree at all. I thought there was a poorly called game. In fairness to the officials, we're watching these slow motion replays and they've got to do everything. We've got 15 angles for replays.


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[Assistant] The Caffrey after that first drive was not, really hadn't done anything. No. Until the time he got hurt. And I, but I thought the Niners made a huge mistake. They got away from the run. Yup. That was a huge, they barely ran the ball in the second half.


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[Assistant] Is there anybody on the Browns defense that's not playing well? I can't think of anybody.


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[Assistant] So Darius Smith hasn't made any splash plays, has he? I feel like he's been pretty quiet.


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[Assistant] I, would anybody disagree with this? On the defensive line.


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[Assistant] Miles, to different levels, because they're different caliber players. Right. But Miles Garrett,


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[Assistant] Uh, Ogbo, Galvin Tomlinson, those three guys are playing as well as they can play, I think.


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[Assistant] They're playing extremely high level. They're giving you what you expect. Right? Yep. Anthony and linebacker, Anthony Walker, J.O.K. Both playing great. Very well. And in the secondary,


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[Assistant] Horrible to fantastic. I know it's a Jim Swartz. Obviously he gets a lot of credit. The players deserve plenty of credit too. They played great and they've upgraded the talent certainly on the D line, but.


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[Assistant] P.J. Walker probably is around now is because he was not playing professional football.


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[Assistant] Oliver Luck, Andrew Luck's dad, was the guy running and PJ Walker had been on the Colts practice squad.


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[Assistant] And Andrew called his dad and said, Hey, I think you should bring this kid into the XFL. I think he can play there. And he played great in the XFL, but then the league folded due to COVID and he got the opportunity with Carolina.


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[Assistant] Because, uh, what's his name, uh, the coach of Carolina had been his coach in college. Oh, Matt Ruhl. Matt Ruhl. Yes, Matt Ruhl. And now, yeaah, I mean.


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[Assistant] He's worthy of being in the NFL at this point. I don't think there's any doubt. Now, I say this, and hopefully it's not the case.


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[Assistant] If, if, because the browse defense to me is so good.


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[Assistant] If I knew that Deshaun Watson was not coming back, I'd still want to try to get a better quarterback. I would too.


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[Assistant] But there's a lot of teams playing very good defense this year. That have, like the Browns, spent a lot of draft capital on building a great defense to stop these quarterbacks. Maybe as the season goes, it'll change. Last year, offenses got off to a slow start and picked up as the year went along. But it's already gone a little longer this year than last year.


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[Assistant] There's been a lot of key injuries on offense. Maybe that's not true, but it seems like there's more key injuries on offense than we've seen in years. So maybe we can get back to where, listen, you can't win a Super Bowl with PJ Walker quarterback. I think we all know that.


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[Assistant] We might be back to the point, maybe, where you can win a Super Bowl with a mid-tier quarterback.


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[Assistant] A decent guy. And, and, and, again, Watson doesn't seem to be anywhere close to out of the year. Who are you? Carson Wentz? I don't, I, I have to think- Nick Foles, once upon a-


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[Assistant] I'd almost rather go after a veteran backup who's been with another team on a team that may be playing for next year.


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[Assistant] It wasn't on front of mind, so I didn't really think about a guy specifically. I don't know that I want a guy. See, the problem with Carson Wentz is, even though he's the best player out there, he's so turnover-prone. Like, I can't have that. If I'm gonna bring out, bring another guy, a veteran, let me bring a guy who may not be that great, but he's not gonna turn the ball over.


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[Assistant] I think that if Watson couldn't play that the Browns probably can't win a Super Bowl. What I'm saying is it's possible that their defense is so good that if they get


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[Assistant] Alright, Jameis Winston. See, but Jameis is turnover prone.


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[Assistant] You can't, James, why would the Saints trade Jamus? They're in the playoff mix. Andy Dalton's the backup on Carolina. They're 0-6. And they got a rookie quarterback, like.


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[Assistant] With a colored sleeve. Yes, I could give you that. I'll take it. By the way, you think, you, by the way, between, uhm, the post game show that G.


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[Assistant] Earl and Mike did yesterday. Gee's podcast last night and my podcast last night. The fans, over 60,000 views between those three.


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[Assistant] That's what a wide receiver one looks like. Well, that's it. I mean, that's, that's, that's the difference between the very good to great receivers and the other guys. Like there's so many receivers that would not have gotten there. They might've made the catch.


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[Assistant] But they wouldn't have gotten the feet in. Right, you're right. And he had the presence of mind to get the feet and, I mean that, that's a catch you make like one out of fifty times.


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[Assistant] And again, stats aren't much, but he made some big blocks in the game, like he was a big factor in the running game.


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[Assistant] As for the running game, you mentioned the running game there, Mike, we talked about it a little bit before. I thought both backs played pretty well. And they stuck with it. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And they had a lot of running plays. They had no choice to stick with it. And PJ Walker, who didn't, I think he had like three carries for one yard, but he used his athletic ability and his legs.


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[Assistant] Thought they would lose this game, right? You just, it wasn't really a clear path to winning. But I believe that if they had started DTR, they would have lost.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Even though Walker didn't do much.


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[Assistant] Make those throws in that pressure situation, we don't know. I think PJ Walker, with all his flaws, and didn't play particularly well.


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[Assistant] I still believe the Niners are the best team in football. I do too. I didn't see anything else today that changed. I think it's funny. Fans often want to say, ah, they're not that good. When you say a team's not that good, you're kind of knocking your own win.


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[Assistant] Right now the Browns are in the middle with 20-something other teams. They have the ability to be, like the Browns ceiling is high. I mean I think their ceiling is top 10 ceiling, which means you can win a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] When I say who's a great team right now, well, the best teams right now, despite yes, despite this week are still San Francisco, Philly and Kansas City.


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[Assistant] Right? I, I still think that it's right now the three best teams. And the three worst teams are probably Carolina, New England, and the Giants. And everybody else, but even the rest of those teams are not that far off from the top teams.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, you talk about, oh, making excuses for injuries. So the Lions played a Buccaneers team that had been playing very well coming into that game. Their defense completely shut down Baker, right? Baker was awful in that game. He threw a pick, he made some terrible throws.


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[Assistant] Offensively, the Lions were without Jameer Gibbs, and David Montgomery got hurt in the game, and they still dominated.


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[Assistant] Hey, Dalton's making, excited, two year, ten million dollar deal before this season.


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[Assistant] There were 18 catches last night. I just, you know, to me, part of that is the quarterbacks haven't played well.


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[Assistant] I mean, they've only had one good quarterback performance in five games. I can't completely blame the wide receivers. That being said, I would look to, I wanted to upgrade a wide receiver before the season. The fans told me I was crazy. And I still want to upgrade. But I'm not going to kill, their wide receivers are what they are. They're just guys. We knew that. We should have known that.


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[Assistant] Think about this for a minute. And you mentioned briefly Jedrick Willis before the game.


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[Assistant] The Browns against the 49ers had Jedrick Wills at left tackle and Michael Dunn at left guard. And it really wasn't a factor. No. Just take that into your brain for a minute.


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[Assistant] We've got it. You want to know an exciting, a blockbuster trade. Don't, I know the salary cap probably will screw it up, but be quiet. Blockbuster trade with the Broncos. We get Garrett Bowles for left tackle. We get Jerry Judy at wide receiver and we get Samaje P right in the mix in the backfield. Boom. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Right. If Deshaun plays to his capabilities, it's fine having him. Well, they did have Deshaun for three games. I'm saying. The wide receiver room.


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[Assistant] In the third game, in the third game where he played well, we weren't talking about the wide receivers. Because when he's playing to his capabilities, it doesn't matter. The good quarterbacks make the guys better or serviceable enough. But I would get a receiver if I could.


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[Assistant] But that's, again, it's a week to week league, G. I thought you guys overreacted too much to the loss two weeks ago in my opinion.


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[Assistant] And I love this win, I think it's a great win. I'm not looking at the Indie game as a must win. The season's not over if they lose that game. I'm going in expecting them to win, but I'm not, if they lose that game, the Indie, I'm like, oh my god, it's all over. I'm not going to do that.


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[Assistant] I agree, Jay, but you're, what I'm saying is that even if it, like, yeaah, it's gonna be disappointing if they lose to Indy because we're expecting them to win. But that, you know, sometimes you go win-loss, win-loss, and maybe that continues through Indy, but maybe after that they win four in a row or five in a row. We can't react to the Indy loss as if they can never do that.


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[Assistant] Of course they play a lot of them. They're scared. They could win four in a row. The Browns with good quarterback play can win four in a row anytime. It may happen next week. It may not. If the Sean Watson doesn't play next week, they're again, they're only a two point favorite. The Colts are not terrible. They're not very good. They beat the Ravens in Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Now, last week we were down, and like, you're like, oh god, I'm not expecting them to win. But now they won, so now we have different expectations. Because before the Niner game, you wouldn't have said they have to beat Indianapolis. It's terrible if they don't.


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[Assistant] You know, last week we talked a little bit about, you know, is anybody that good in the AFC North?


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[Assistant] And the AFC North is in a way similar to the rest of the league where all four teams are kinda in towards the middle. They can be good or they can be bad. Right. But unlike any other division in football, everybody in the AFC North is 500 or better. It's the only division where there's no bad team. Even the Steelers as much as we hate them, certainly three and two are not bad. The Bengals who


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[Assistant] Right. There's a lot of teams here in the middle. But, you know, you're looking at yesterday, Baltimore won against Tennessee in the, I don't know how much you guys saw that in England. I didn't see it. I watched that game. I wasn't overly impressed by Baltimore. I thought, uh,


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[Assistant] Tennessee made some head scratching decisions in that game. Uh, Ryan-


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they put it away late. Tenho got hurt, didn't he? Yeah. Malik Willis is abysmal.


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[Assistant] Derrick Henry was killing the Ravens, and they didn't, I thought they should have given it to him more, but anyway. The Bengals-Seahawks game, I don't know if anybody saw that one. Yep. Totally weird game. So, the Seahawks get the ball first, march right down the field, one of the best drives ever, like they just, there wasn't even any third downs. March right down the field, score the touchdown. Then the Bengals get it,


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[Assistant] They march right down the field to score a touchdown. We're 7-7. Alright? Bengals didn't stop the Seahawks on the second drive. Bengals' second drive marched right down the field again. So it's 14-7. And that was about it. And neither team could move the ball the rest of the way.


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[Assistant] It was almost half time, those were long drives, those three touchdowns. The two by the Bengals and one by Seattle was a lot of clock. And then both teams, both teams defenses played great. The Bengals defense in the red zone, which they haven't been very good. That's where they won the game. Fantastic. The Seahawks could not get in the end zone after that first drive. They kept stopping them. Uh, they stopped them on the last drive of the game.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, touchdown. Yeah, it got a lot of pressure on Russell Wilson and, uh, it was a weird game because the Bengals offense in the first half was fantastic. In the second half, they had a couple of bad drops on third down. It was a weird game, but like everybody else in the North, there's good moments, bad moments. Listen, this AFC North is going to come down in the last week of the season. I don't think there's any doubt about it.


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[Assistant] I'm not a fan of denigrating my opponents, because when you denigrate your opponent,


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[Assistant] Derrick Henry did nothing against the Browns. He's been great against everybody else. Jamar Chase did nothing against the Browns. He, he, he's been mostly great against everybody else. He's had like 300 yards the last two weeks. Everybody. So, no need to denigrate guys. They're great players.


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[Assistant] By the way, what percentage of SuperChats, Mike, do you think you, it takes you a minute to stumble through the name?


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[Assistant] That is the greatest thing of all time, included. What happened? There was, when the, for the Cavs Parade.


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[Assistant] There was a report from the greater Cleveland sports, whatever, whatever, of 1.4 million. That number was completely made up by Anthony Lyme on the air. He completely made it up, credited somebody, and everybody ran with it. He made that number up.


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[Assistant] The bottom line is Watson's gotta play closer to the guy in tennis. Like, listen, the Browns are good enough that they could win without Watson being Houston Watson, but he's gotta be closer to that.


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[Assistant] What is up guys? We got a couple things and I'll toss it right back to you. But first and foremost, if you guys did not tune in, you saw a little clip of it in the cold open, but the post game show, once again, the people came out in troves once again.


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[Assistant] The number one most viewed post game show in the entire city. So shout out to you guys for tuning in. What is that up to?


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[Assistant] Exactly. It's a cool thing. We appreciate y'all. Yesterday was a special moment because we had drama live and then you could obviously see G's reaction, uh, where I live. I can hear the stadium from my apartment. So 50 seconds before they showed it on TV, I hear Brown Stadium erupt and I'm like,


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[Assistant] Holy, you know what? He just missed it. And I hear it and I hear people outside yelling.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that was cool, so appreciate y'all, uh, checking in, tuning out. If you want live reactions, it's on our YouTube page. Also, outside of the Blue Raspberry Kool-Aid, which Super Famic Miss Nuggets chose for us today, we have some emoses out there.


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[Assistant] And there's a reason for mimosas and an extra bottle of champagne. On Saturday night, I said if the Browns beat the Niners, I would chug a bottle of champagne on the show.


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[Assistant] Well, Tegna was like, eeeeh, chugging, eeeeh, maybe not. So what we did was we poured mimosas.


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[Assistant] And I also don't always listen to the rules. So guys, raise a glass. We start the show with a toast.


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[Assistant] The Browns defensive EPA is off the charts this year and EPA uses turnovers as one of the highest factors.


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[Assistant] They are that good in every other category measurable outside of turning the ball over, which is partly luck. And there, there is some tangible, but the fact that they are that high, despite the heaviest way to factor in the equation being irrelevant to them.


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[Assistant] We're trying to break a views record today. We were so close. So close in week one of hitting 4K concurrence. We're at 37 right now. Tell your sister, your mom, your brother, your friend, your cousin, your aunt, your uncle, your grandpa. I don't care. Your coworker. Tell them to tune in. We're trying to break 4,000 today. What's our show record? Do we know?


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[Assistant] Uh, well yeaah, but we don't know til the next day, so it's not irrelevant right now. Let's talk about Kevin Stefanski real quick. Drew, you alluded to this before.


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[Assistant] He's beaten Cincinnati on a regular consistent basis. He is yet to beat...


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[Assistant] A team before yesterday of the caliber of San Francisco in the regular season. So gee, I'll start with you on this.


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[Assistant] Is this officially a signature win for Mr. Kevin Stansky?


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[Assistant] On this play, and the dots do a better job than any replay can, look where all of San Francisco's deep, and we can't start from the game, but when this refreshes. Right now he's surrounded by three guys. Look where all the linemen were.


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[Assistant] To then pitch it up. Yeaah. I think, I think Bull could have ran that one in.


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[Assistant] It was the most in the NFL this season, not only in number of flags, but in penalty yards, in totality. Hard to watch.


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[Assistant] Is he the coach in waiting now? Promise that he's the head coach in waiting. Yeaah, okay. Alright, we talked defense. Jason, you wrote an article on PJ Walker this morning, and this guy was on the practice squad three days ago. Now he is a Cleveland Browns legend for life. How did PJ Walker pull it? Yes he is, yes he is. That might be a prisoner at the moment.


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[Assistant] Uh, but what you all gotta know is, Barbershop, 3 to 4 o'clock, Gbush, and also, some special merch you're giving out in the Barbershop, uh, and if you wanna cut to it live, giving out some t-shirts, some browns, color Kool-Aid,


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[Assistant] It's on YouTube, but you can't, we can't mention this.


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[Assistant] We had spoken, we touched on it a little bit, but I do wanna dive a little deeper.


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[Assistant] Jerome Ford and Kareem Hunt revitalized the running game and Amari Cooper showed out like a true wide receiver number one yesterday. And sometimes those guys in the grand scheme of how we talk about the Browns.


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[Assistant] We got some good ones and some that I do think is gonna elicit a little discussion. So let's get to those real quick. And whenever we bring you guys Super Chats, we appreciate them.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. Some of these super chats are just strictly comments. Some are questions. So we're going to give a little extra time, get to them all. The first two come from alone. Hey, and it's really just one. He said it twice.


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[Assistant] Skilly says, desperately needed that win yesterday. Let's go brownies. I got a video yesterday morning of 10 foot waves crashing over the bow of my boat, sinking into the marina. So that win saved my day.


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[Assistant] I was a little dehydrated, Sunday had to go to the ER to get an IV, the doctor came back with a bag full of Kool-Aid, LFG, it's Browns vs. the


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[Assistant] I don't even know how to say this without saying. Yeah, yeah. I'm just going to move on. We're just going to move on. Yeah, move on. That never happens. Armagdawg says G Bush is the people's champ. Thanks for representing.


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[Assistant] Rated R says, I think he meant Dewan Jones. He sent Dewan, like Dewan Blair. I think he meant Dewan. Dewan Jones neutralized the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. Besides that one sack, Bosa did nothing.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, they, I mean, he had three tackles for loss. I would say nothing's a little exaggerating. He had a good game, but by both the standards, it wasn't good enough. He did not destroy the game plan, which is I think a win in any capacity. Alex Garedis with his first super chat ever says, love the show guys. I watch every day from Florida. Jed Wills is terrible wearing a balaclava.


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[Assistant] No, that's not baklava. It's not baklava, it's not- No, baklava's a dessert. Baklava's a dessert, Anthony. Uh, wearing- It's a balaclava, that's it.


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[Assistant] Uh, Justin McKay says, love the show from Montana. Shout out to people all over the country, all over the world for watching. G. Bush blaming Jed Wills for the downfield penalty is just wrong. That was on the quarterback for double clutching. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.


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[Assistant] Uh, next up is from, uh, Devoid Archangel. Turnovers don't matter when you don't let teams get first downs. That's in response to us saying the one not. That is the fact. That's kinda crazy. Yea, it is true.


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[Assistant] Most. Uh, and the next one you're gonna laugh at in a sec. But real quick, a stat on the first downs. This from Dan Murphy. Shout out to Dan Murphy, one of our guys for the Browns.


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[Assistant] So far this season, they've allowed 29 fewer than any other team in football. And the Cowboys play tonight. And granted, they have only played five games. Some teams have played six. Yeah, but so have the Cowboys now. But regardless, the Cowboys have played five games.


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[Assistant] Uh, you're not gonna laugh at this and you're gonna laugh at the next one. This first one comes from James Cosby. I wanted to see if the Browns were tough enough. Questions, answers. Let's keep going. Uh, next one's from Lodetoad216.


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[Assistant] Uh, two personal fouls on the first drive. We gave them 30 yards. That's a fact from the load toad. Yep. Uh, Halim Youssef.


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[Assistant] Peter R says I wish I recorded my living room when Moody missed that kick because all seven people were celebrating just like G. Bush. We had people praying.


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[Assistant] Our guy, Daryl, said, great win, Stefanski. Thank you, Jim Schwartz, for saving your job, cause you screwed it. Big Thanos is the real deal. Shout out, Bill Callahan, for missing Batonio and lighting a fire under Jed Wills. Bolsa was a non-factor. Love you guys, Daryl. Do we have a second? Yeah.


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[Assistant] We did it. Not just that. Not just that. They got to the 26 yard line with 50 seconds left.


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[Assistant] And a timeout. And did not try to advance the ball. They didn't run. They let the rock run down. They spiked it and hiked the field goal snap on third down.


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[Assistant] They got to exactly the spot Jake Moody said this is where I wanna be at. And he still shanked.


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[Assistant] That is very funny though, and it is amazing what you can get away with. Charles T said, are we as Cleveland fans finally going to give him credit? He has to hit those. He is giving them layups.


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[Assistant] Uh, next from JF says the defense is so good, it's a shame they do not have a gelling offense right now. They need to add a serious wide receiver and some depth to the O-line. Thoughts tomorrow.


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[Assistant] I have six hypothetical trades for the Browns to make the rest of the season more fun. So we'll get to that. We'll save that for then. I also have a graph that's going to tell you the realistic and the fun meter. So you guys know which ones are more plausible.


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[Assistant] We did also real quick mental math. I think that's, that's right.


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[Assistant] I did, I actually got a real quick story to tell you guys. So I went to a wedding with Miss Nuggets down in Pennsylvania and it is in...


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[Assistant] I knew very few people there. Like, that I actually knew, so.


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[Assistant] He's 5'9 a buck 80, like he's not a huge guy, but he was always...


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[Assistant] That's four a game. So his offer list for a three star recruit was, his final three was Bama LSU ANM, went to ANM. Okay, so they caught on to him. So he just was, but because the recruiting systems, they all, if you're not 6'4 and jacked and massive. Did he go to ANM because he wanted to stay home?


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[Assistant] He's from Houston, uh, it was best chance for him to get early playing time. He played behind Isaiah Spiller, who's now on the Chargers. Okay. They split time. He never got a ton of carries at A&M because I think the wear and tear factor, just they're a little hesitant to give him like the full RBI workload. He's not a workload back. But since he's, every time he's ever had a chance to touch the ball,


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[Assistant] Yeah, question real quick. Before I read you guys a tweet, and maybe this is nothing, maybe it's something I'm not sure. Was Deshaun Watson expected to practice today? Uh oh.


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[Assistant] Well, Jake Trotter just tweeted he is not on the field for practice today on the sideline with parentheses shoulder. Yeah, that's not great. That's not good.


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[Assistant] Content related to the upcoming Browns game. We did a little different stuff this week on the bye. We are back to our regularly scheduled Browns 49ers preview this Friday on WKYC. Make sure you guys tune in and check it out.


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[Assistant] We have had many discussions over the course of this season about the Browns offensive live most, especially the left side of the offensive line. And over the weekend, there were reports out there that started from Ian Rappaport, then Diana Rossini chimed in and then Scotty Gange of our sister station in Denver mentioned the fact that the Browns at least made a phone call to Denver about their


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[Assistant] Left tackle Garrett Bowles. If you guys don't know, Bowles has been with the team for seven years. He was the second team all pro in 2020.


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[Assistant] A third round pick? Well considering what we've gotten out of a third round pick.


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[Assistant] Upside of also trading for Trent Brown, you would have the two biggest tackles in the NFL on the same line. That's right. Trent Brown is listed at 6, 8, 3, 70. Dewan Jones is 6, 8, 3, 75. I'm all for it. Jeez. Just talking about, geez, sorry to cut you off. I guarantee you. No, no, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Doing everything he does as well as anybody in the city. It is The Barber Shop Live on UCSS' YouTube channel tonight. At.


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[Assistant] You just mentioned Fears Bowl. And I do think that segues us right to our next quick topic before Lomis Brown joins us here at the top of the hour. But we saw the 49ers put a butt whooping on the Dallas Cowboys last night. 42-10 was the final.


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[Assistant] I thought it would be difficult to make a case for any team, but San Francisco is the best team in football right now, but you said adamantly you don't think it's a slam dunk.


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[Assistant] Well, if anyone's had a couple of chances in the NFL from a high round pick to then being a journeyman to then finding his feet again, it's Baker Mayfield. We've seen him.


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[Assistant] Have his time in Cleveland, go to Carolina, flame out.


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[Assistant] We had a couple moments in Los Angeles and is now playing pretty well for the Bucs. He was on the Pat McAfee show on Friday, guys, previewing the...


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[Assistant] You can't say the, it's the Red River rivalry now. It's not the Red River shootout. It's the Red River rivalry. Oklahoma versus Texas. Did you guys hear the comments? If not, we're gonna play it for you. Go ahead, play it. If you didn't hear, this is Baker Mayfield on his situation and how it ended in Cleveland on the Pat McIntyre Show from Friday. Anthony.


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[Assistant] The injury itself, the rehab process and what goes into being comfortable throwing the football again from that. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. It's on our YouTube page.


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[Assistant] He seemed to think that Watson, based on the timetable of recovery, would be back for Sunday.


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[Assistant] Well, we can ask a guy who's been through a week of NFL practice and that is our next guest. It is Johnny Stanton the fourth, the former fullback of the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Dungeons and Dragons and football mixed together, you'll find Johnny Stanton IV talking about it. Let's bring him in. The former fullback in the Cleveland Browns, the host of Athletics Check, it is Johnny Stanton IV. What's up Johnny?


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[Assistant] Anthony's gonna go second. I got one for you real quick, Johnny. And remember, if you guys haven't checked out, check out the athletics check on Johnny's social media channels at Johnny Stanton the fourth. Johnny, who was your favorite fullback growing up?


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[Assistant] We got a couple of them today and we will start from Donnie M.


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[Assistant] Jason and the guys, how many sacks do you think 71 gives up this weekend? And how comfortable do you think Watson is with 71 watching his backside? Five and not comfortable at all.


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[Assistant] Next one's from Daryl, and we love Daryl. Shout out Daryl. Safanski's always out-schemed and out-coached, never once putting his best players in a position to excel. That's not true. And last but not least, from her root, G. Bush.


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[Assistant] Please take a shot of Kool-Aid, my friend. You're way too pessimistic. This is a new offense with new personnel. It takes times. Relax. You want your team waxing at the right time? They will get it together. Have some compliments.


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[Assistant] Uh, when I went to Germany, I didn't look for three weeks and I didn't want to go back and figure out how it happened. So when I finished, I was down like seven bucks. It almost broke even, but I have no idea how they did.


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[Assistant] They, they won so many close games. Lost so many close games. It was, uh, it was pretty devastating.


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[Assistant] Alright, when the last time, when the last time you worked out, like with weights? Uh, probably about two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] So, okay, so wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on, let me set the floor. Let me set the floor. So y'all get the full story. So I'm sitting here. Me and Steve was doing something for the collective yesterday. So I get done and I had to go to the bathroom. So, you know, the weight room is next door. So I go in there and Jay's in there talking.


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[Assistant] And I say, oh, you get ready to do your old man workout. He goes, he said, if you want to do what I do, why don't you go on there and lift that, that weight right there at 135, 40 times. And I said, Jay, I literally, McNuggets and I just did 225 like two weeks ago. I did it like 20 times. Yea, he's like, I got this. Yea, right? How many times did you guys do 225?


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[Assistant] Wait, let him finish his story. So anyways, I say, you know what? No warm up, no stretch. Put, get me get under this bar. So we started off. Boom. I'm repping it out. And I told him that one of your arms is gonna get at me. You got too cocky.


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[Assistant] No, that's not what it is. I got to 38.


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[Assistant] For whatever reason, they don't work. So I've had the shot. Actually, the year we went to the national championship and won it all, me and Zeke got the shot every game. But, I know, yeaah, it was bad. From the beginning of the season? No, no, no, it was like,


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[Assistant] I know what the shot feels like. If you get, when you get this shot, if it don't hurt like really bad.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. So I'm thinking maybe in his career maybe he's had this injury before and he's probably gotten a shot and they hit the spine and he was like, oh yeaah, I'm good to go. Do we need to fire the shot guy in the locker room? No.


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[Assistant] No, I, I get that, but. Cause the bye week everybody leaves, you off the whole week, so. Everybody does? Unless you on IR or something like that. You're gone. Everybody. Gone. The whole week. Gone.


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[Assistant] Thursday or Friday, so we can look at you ourselves and make sure everything is good to go for the San Francisco.


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[Assistant] I actually don't like the question. I'll tell you, his answer was like, yeah, we came into the game, he said, obviously we wanted to run the ball, but when you go down by so many points, you have no choice but to throw the ball. And we went down early in that game. So we started throwing the ball, but I said, I swear y'all was throwing the ball in like the first. Yeah, but in the first half,


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[Assistant] The only, the only interesting thing, the most interesting thing that happened in this press conference was the Jonathan Taylor situation where he said, he said, I can't talk about it for tampering reasons, but we like our running back room. Yeah. I mean, he made it seem like, usually they dismiss it. Usually it's like, nah.


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[Assistant] Leroy, Leroy, I don't like how you be trying to make it seem like defensive players ain't that smart. Dude.


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[Assistant] Yes. Miles Garrett. Let's start with DTR.


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[Assistant] I wonder what the conversation was. That they drafted? No, no, no, that's on the cover. That's what I said. I said how many have they drafted?


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[Assistant] Okay, and Will should not be here. So that's- I wonder what the conversation between Jack Conklin and Jay Wills was after he got hurt. No, I want to know what it was.


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[Assistant] Take the one that's immediately the big, the threat to the quarterback. You make sure that that one's secure. You got the one that's gonna wrap around. You could be late to that just a little bit. What is the place called?


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[Assistant] No, no, no, that's the high go. You come out there, you look, you get your read, and you say, alright, on this route, if they running cover two, this is where I should go. I'm only gonna look at this one guy. I ain't got time to really not look at this guy. Once he's not open, I gotta take off running because my left tackle is getting beat.


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[Assistant] The offensive coordinator should see that upstairs. I still gotta know what the coverage is. Cause if it's covered too and he's running in the flats, then that should not be open anyways. But it was.


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[Assistant] Okay, it's cover two. That shouldn't be open. So my new number one read when it's cover two is this guy. Okay, he's not there, I can't get him to ball. Oh my god, I gotta take off running. How am I gonna do that? And as a rookie... Make it happen.


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[Assistant] Lamar has three plays that's been amazing.


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[Assistant] One, when he was going against Cincinnati and he hit that spin move on everybody and messed everybody up. Oh yeaah. That was ridiculous. I remember that.


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[Assistant] You know, when you think about the safety position, when you think about Dale Pitt as a whole and what he was last year, he had us some glimpse and a lot of people was all like, okay, this guy, we can see it there. It's a contract here for this guy. So he has to come out and earn his money. And to be honest with you, he is playing like the best safety in the NFL. Why do I say that?


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[Assistant] Because at the safety position, as you know, it's not what it used to be. Back in the day, you had a post safety and you had a box safety. And the box safety was the guy who was kind of an extra line batterer, essentially, but he could actually cover a little bit.


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[Assistant] Dale Pitt has been asked to do blitzing, he's been asked to cover, he's been asked to be in zone, and he tackles really well. And what I like about him is I think he's tied third in the NFL with one pick I think the most is two or three as a safety right now. I think Jesse Bates probably got the lead right now.


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[Assistant] But to be in that conversation and be a guy that week one he had to go up against T. Higgins and he stopped T. Higgins. I don't think T. Higgins caught a ball, right?


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[Assistant] Stop T Higgins. So you, now you're going up against not just your third or fourth best receiver or a tight end. You're going up against actual wire receivers and shutting them down.


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[Assistant] That's very impressive. You're going up against tight ends, doing a great job against them.


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[Assistant] When you go out there on the field, you get, you making plays, making that interception that he had against Pittsburgh, the way he just commanded that defense, got everybody on the same page and robbed something like that shows that he's really taking the next step forward.


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[Assistant] And he's really become a pretty good solid tackler. He doesn't miss a lot of tackles at all. And that's the name of the game at safety. That's something that you cannot say about every safety in the national football league. Cause a lot of the ones that get the interceptions are just post safeties, but a guy that's in the box that don't miss a lot of tackles. I mean, he's essentially playing like a linebacker. So for me,


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[Assistant] He's earned his money. He got, obviously he got to do it for, what, 13 more weeks.


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[Assistant] He's blitzing, he's getting homie, I think he has a sack on this season. He's got a pick, he's tackling, he's covering wide receiver, he's covering tight ends. I mean what more you want to gotta do? Coach?


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[Assistant] Like, that man is checking wire receivers. Like, that's big.


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[Assistant] That's three more targets. All I'm saying is, they're asking, they trust Dale Pitt as a DB so much that they can say, go check, go check T Higgins. Jesse Bass ain't doing that.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a big mismatch. Usually if a quarterback sees my guy, and he's got a safety on him, right now.


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[Assistant] Tell him that Stefanski shouldn't be ripping Deshaun like that. That's bad for business. He's not wrong.


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[Assistant] What's, what's that? Really? What'd you say? I didn't know Russell Wilson had nine touchdowns on the seat. All garbage work. He had four and no picks. He tied for second. Sunday. Him, him, Tua, and Josh Alva. By the way, where does, uh? Kirk Cousins leading with 11.


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[Assistant] Paris Johnson Jr. He played for card, for the card.


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[Assistant] Well, they would have had, they wouldn't have lost the Pittsburgh game and they still had a starting right tackle.


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[Assistant] Two and two and we feel like the season's over. That's sad. It's not over.


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[Assistant] That's right. That is awesome. That's it. That's awesome. That's sad. That's going to be his name for the rest of the time.


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[Assistant] You wanna win the news conference, yes. Did you think the cast would be successful with David Blatt?


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[Assistant] And he'll be limited, or if he won't be there, I don't really know yet. I'm still working on that. Uhm, Ethan Posek, again, watched him.


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[Assistant] on the bowl and I'm going to tell you how PJ Walker, yes, PJ Walker, not the Sean Watson has a chance to get it done for a Browns victory.


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[Assistant] Well, he has to hand off the ball and then hand off the ball and then hand off the ball and then hand off the ball. I mean, that's the only hope. The Browns have to run it well.


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[Assistant] Then the offense will have no chance. PJ Walker has played a few games for Carolina last year.


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[Assistant] He had one game, there was one game, a wild one in overtime, I think they beat Atlanta.


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[Assistant] Where he played pretty well. Outside of that, he's really struggled mightily in his career, but their only way to be successful is to get the running game because not only does that give them the ability to move the ball and potentially score, it also keeps this great Niners offense off the field.


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[Assistant] They cannot afford to be in situations where the, uh, where the Niners know they're throwing the ball. No. Those situations are a disaster.


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[Assistant] Looks like he's gonna go. We don't know about Petonio either. We don't know about Joel. Which further weakens the offensive line. You mentioned quick throws. They have to, I mean, PJ Walker has no ability and this team has no ability right now to throw the ball down the field.


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[Assistant] I laughed out loud. He never had genius credentials. And I'm someone who's defended Stephanie as much as anybody in this town.


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[Assistant] He's done a perfectly okay job with the offense at times. And yes, he got the best out of Baker at the end of 2020. Although Baker's playing well right now, so we'll see if it ends up being the best by the end of this year. And I guess he got the best out of Jacoby Brissette. It wasn't that good.


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[Assistant] No genius credentials. There's only like three or four offensive coaches in the league who I would say genius credentials. Nobody would ever confuse Kevin Stefanski with an offensive play calling genius ever. Not in 2020, not now. He's okay, but that's it.


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[Assistant] I don't think just because he's had some good games against the Bengals that may give him genius. The Bengals are a great team.


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[Assistant] It's laughable to say he has genius credentials. He's never won a playoff game. The team won one playoff game without him. And that's it. He has no genius credentials. That's laughable. It's ridiculous. And Mike should be punched in the face for the question.


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[Assistant] That's not the case. You've had two weeks to get ready. The defense knows they have to win this game. They have to throw a perfect game. Right. And they have to play, yeaah, they have to play a perfect game. So there's no excuse here.


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[Assistant] You can't, the offense is going to handicap you, we know that. The defense has to be able to overcome the offensive struggles and beyond that, help them. The one thing they haven't done well, Jay's talked about it a lot, they haven't forced turnovers, they need to do that this week.


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[Assistant] Well, think about two of the teams that the Niners have beaten already. Dallas and Pittsburgh. Alright, both those teams have really good defenses, right? We all agree Dallas and Pittsburgh have at the very least top ten defenses. They've scored 72 points against Pittsburgh and Dallas.


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[Assistant] I'm going with Denzel Ward as well in this one. I think it's a great matchup. You know, listen, in these matchups, the guy who wins is not going to win on every single play. But I like Debo, but I think Denzel is a higher class of corner than Debo is a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I'm gonna have to give the edge to Kyle Shanahan even though Jim Schwartz has had the edge in this matchup before. And that's just because of the situation in the game. Jim Schwartz is gonna have to deal with the fact that his offense isn't gonna give him any help.


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[Assistant] And I just think as talented as the Browns defense is, it's very talented, it's very good. They're behind the eight ball because of their offense. I think Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] Right now at this moment in time, nobody's doing a better job than him in calling offense. And I mean, listen, it's razor thin difference, but I give a minuscule edge to Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] You know, listen, we're all hoping I'm wrong. I don't know what you guys predicted, but, uh, I just can't see a way, again, beyond, well, it's football. You never know. I can't see a way the offense can muster much against the Niners. I think they get up early. I think the defense does all they can. Holding this Niner team to 17 would be pretty impressive. I just can't see the Browns scoring much in this game.


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm, I'm in California. I was gonna say. Look at him, look at that.


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[Assistant] And uhm, knew some friends in the comic books who were playing and I'm like, you know what? I think this is something I could be, you know, have fun with.


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[Assistant] So, uh, it was, it was a really cool opportunity for me, and it still is, to be able to connect with people, to be able to grow, uh, and to be able to show that, like, you know, exactly what athletics check is. It's, it's, uh, that people have.


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[Assistant] You know, fullback, I had a couple snaps of running back in Cleveland. I definitely had some snaps of full, uh, tied in Cleveland. In college, I played some linebacker. Uh, I'm learning how to long snap right now to try to make my way back in the NFL. Uh, so yeaah, I'd be in, be in versatile is definitely the name of the game for people who can't quite, uh, you know, are trying to make it back on a roster.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's, it's interesting, when you're looking at a snapper, you just, you just expect him to, okay, well,


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[Assistant] But, uh, you know, having not done in a game yet, but been able to do it in practice in Cleveland, I was there, I was one of their emergency long snappers, uhm, getting to, you know, having, getting reps and, you know, with, I remember Andy Janovich, who was the fullback with me, uh, those years.


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[Assistant] You want it to be a thankless job. You want to be somebody who just blends into the rest of the team. Just another man on the 53-man roster, uh, who just does their job.


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[Assistant] Because unless you're making a tackle, you're not going to be, uh, you know, have a perfect game. Nobody's, you're not going to show up on the, uh, the pro football focus, you know, stat line, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, I did end up missing the play itself. Uhm, but I was watching the game. I saw the reactions in the Pittsburgh crowd. Uhm, I, I was, I was tweeting during that. I remember feeling like,


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[Assistant] Obviously horrible for Nick. Uhm, the next thing I thought about was how


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[Assistant] I don't think anybody could ever have a bad word to say about him. Uhm, he's a friend of mine. He is somebody who I actually messaged him the day before, uh, that game. Uhm, you know, wishing him luck.


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[Assistant] The defense is obviously the core of their identity. It's something that has always been on the precipice of being an extreme strength of theirs, best in the league.


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[Assistant] But also guys like Greg Newsome, Jeremiah Osukoromoa, Grant Delpit being all healthy and all of them having a couple of years under their belt now where they're really being able to dominate those defensive backfields and in, um, you know, being able to stop the run.


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[Assistant] Uh, as far as the offense goes, you know, they're trying to gain their identity back with Nick going down. Uhm, they obviously have weapons. Everybody knows they have weapons. You got Amari Cooper, you got Jerome Ford, you know, just lighten people up. But...


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[Assistant] Consistency with holding on the ball is the name of the game around the NFL. Uh, it's no different in Cleveland and making sure that, you know, the offense and everybody on the offense is making smart choices, uh, is, is what's going to get you more wins.


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[Assistant] You know, two and two after four games is not the end of the world by any means. I think people in Cleveland should hold their head high and have a lot of hope for the rest of the season because Jerome is only going to be able to grow in his, uh,


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[Assistant] Everybody, Abreya, Brennan, uhm.


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[Assistant] Like coming down, trying to just- Getting into those wounds. And putting that helmet on. Like, it just being, like-


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[Assistant] Hey man, I can, listen man, there's, you know, sometimes when you talk about athletes, man, and I know they get paid a lot of money, but.


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[Assistant] Man, that just goes to show you, like, people, people do a lot of things for the game. If anybody was able to sit out and you would have gave him a pass with David Njoku, I mean, he, this is his face he got, tried to burn off, like, you know what I'm saying? And it's crazy that, like, he even went and played, man, it just- But when he showed up, with that mask,


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[Assistant] Like, it's crazy, but he could've, he could've posted up and sat out that game. It just goes to show you, like,


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[Assistant] There is a passion for players that go out there and play the game. And there's a lot of players, and you know, you even talked to Tyvis.


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[Assistant] The time is like, man, I'd give anything to get one more playoff. You know what I'm saying? It just goes to show you the links that people go through to play a game that they love. And yes, they get a lot of money, but you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of sacrifices that people go through to do it. So I commend them.


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[Assistant] I mean, look at him now. I mean, David Adjoku, you know, I'm just saying, he's a nice looking fellow. You know what I'm saying? I was like, if I was that nice looking with all the six packs and abs, I'd be like, if I burn myself, I'm like, oh no, doctor, doctor, don't tell me I'm gonna go back to where I'm looking at. Don't have me looking crazy.


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[Assistant] He had that fur coat open. Yeaah, he had the fur coat with the abs going. I'm like, would I trade what's under the mask for myself for the abs? I think I almost like. I would.


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[Assistant] If you, if you wanna take his abs and give it to me and I'll get some burns, as long as uhm, I ain't really too crazy,


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[Assistant] In most cases, it would bring them to tears. It would bring you to your- Listen, there are people that miss regular work with hangnails.


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[Assistant] And the dark side of this is we've got this hyper masculine thing where back in the day we used to do two a days and they give people salt tablets and they withhold water during 90 degree temperatures because you were dogging it.


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[Assistant] When after you're old and you're in your 40s and 50s, nobody gives a crap about how much you played and whether you played injured or not. Do you think any college coaches say, oh wow, Garrett Bush?


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[Assistant] Man, he doesn't move his arms that well, or he can't feel his left arm, or, or, you know, his neck is, or his back.


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[Assistant] Because nobody knows. This is just high school, but I remember playing both ways in high school in my junior year and I wanted to get a scholarship and I was playing really well and something kept messing with my calf.


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[Assistant] It's G. Bush. I've been, I'm the same person I am now. G. Bush don't wanna practice. He just wanna play the game.


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[Assistant] And I remember telling them like, no man, like this hurts that bad. And I could remember like, people not taking it seriously. And then finally, they were like, just so you'll shut up.


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[Assistant] I'ma take you to the doctor. They finally took me to the doctor and everybody was like, looked at the scans and came back and was like,


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm sorry. I'm like, well, what's wrong with it? Well, I had a bone growing through my leg.


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[Assistant] So it was, the bone was going over in between my tibia and fibia and was going over a nerve. And so there was.


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[Assistant] Pretty much a jagged piece of bone growing through my muscles. Cutting on a nerve. With a wonder it hurt. And I was like, and then so they looked at me and I remember crying not because it hurt. I remember crying because people didn't


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[Assistant] Believe me and they treated me like that. Like I just didn't want to play. And I'm like, here I am. I'm just trying to get a scholarship. This is the most important year of my life. Right. And you're telling me I don't want to play and coaches might think I'm just a loser that don't want to practice. No one knows. You're the only


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[Assistant] I just don't, I just don't like it. I don't understand.


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[Assistant] What? Don't they have a support staff? Don't they? You know, I was laughing and I was thinking to myself, they need to hire Olivia Pope from the movie or from the show Scandal. You need to bring her in here, Kerry Washington. Communications expert. Figure this out because, look.


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[Assistant] The one thing that you don't want, right, and you look at Deshaun Watson, and there's one thing Deshaun Watson has never been. He has never been, or has had an opportunity to be comfortable.


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[Assistant] In Cleveland. He doesn't have anybody he really speaks to in the media, locally.


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[Assistant] He really hasn't really even spoken.


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[Assistant] About who he is or what he's able to do or any of the work he's done in the community because we've only spoken about the scandal. So he's already closed in a little bit. And so when you close in a little bit, you want at least your teammates in your organization to kinda, you know, surround you and close ranks a little bit. So,


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[Assistant] You know, you mentioned Hanford Dixon and what he said. I believe Hanford Dixon, uhm, is just, uh, it's just a consequence of the mixed messaging. I agree with that. 100%. 100% agree with that. When you take in, when your coach says, well, he's cleared to play.


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[Assistant] Okay, we'll take that on as face value. Okay, that's one.


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[Assistant] But then the general manager comes out in the bye week and he's supposed to be shutting it down. And then he comes out and says that he's going to play.


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[Assistant] And you guarantee it, almost. Like, double down. Well, you just said it matter-of-factly. Like, it's just nothing. Oh, he'll play against San Francisco. So when you say it out of turn and out of matter-of-fact,


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[Assistant] You, you diminish what is exactly happening with that player. So people think, oh, it's not that big of a deal. Now we got people on the internet being like, okay, yeah, bruise, contusion. Now, now it's, it's the, the narrative is, oh, well, regular people have this. Why isn't he playing?


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[Assistant] And so now, if you're Deshaun Watson, you back on the defensive. You're like, I'm trying to win people over and I had all these allegations and I wasn't allowed to speak.


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[Assistant] Now I'm here, I'm trying to get that past me, and now, which I think is weird a little bit too,


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[Assistant] He's not speaking anymore. Like, it's okay to be injured and go talk to the media. At least you'll say, hey, look guys, I'm trying my hardest to get out there. I'm just doing day by day, but they're almost being like, no, no, no, don't do that because I know it's, there's two reasons for it.


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[Assistant] That may have already happened and they just, they're not gonna tell us. Guys, this is, this is, as I go back and look at it.


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[Assistant] I remember he's always had trouble with messaging on players' injuries.


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[Assistant] The Baker. The Baker situation. Remember when people thought Odell Beckham was going to play in the first game against Kansas City? I do, I do. And he just came out and. That's true. And so if you look at it. They're always. It's always a little, like for the last three or four years, like.


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[Assistant] Take a look at what goes on. You had problems with OBJ. You had problems with Jarvis Landry. Jarvis Landry is at his turkey giveaway. And he comes out and says, you know what, I just don't know what's going on right now. Look, Jadevia Clowney. He says he's not going in on third down. Like, he just, like, these are things.


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[Assistant] That I can't look at. If you look at them individually, okay, they're just one-offs. But if you look at it...


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[Assistant] There's a pattern of behavior where there's messaging where I don't know how that was even allowed to go on.


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[Assistant] What's expected of them? I think, I think we missed two, two big key things.


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[Assistant] He is a first time head coach, right? So obviously there's some opportunity to, the one year he wasn't even in the building, right? So, and that happened to be his best year.


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[Assistant] Now, here's the thing that I look at, and maybe you guys can tell me if I'm wrong. It sounds like, it looks like, it's almost like you're being a stepdad, right? Like, you didn't literally have the kid. Like, you look at, you know, Deshaun Watson and Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski inherited those guys. Both of them. Both of them. So it's a little bit


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[Assistant] It's, it's, we're bonded at the hip. You know what it is. It's like, okay.


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[Assistant] And then they text down in the field like, oh, you gonna play him too. Get him in the game. Yea, but that's not the, that's not the


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[Assistant] But I think my general point was, sometimes when you're put together, you have a very


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[Assistant] Because I thought he did that with Baker. When Baker came back and said, Oh, I'll decide when I'm going to play or not.


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[Assistant] And he just did, disregarded the coach. I'm gonna be playing. I told you that. And I think, I think Stefanski was like, well hold on.


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[Assistant] One of the things that uhm, you know, I saw you was coming on, so I just had to get myself prepared for some 49ers stuff. One of the things that you guys do really well, uhm, is just the run action.


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[Assistant] You guys really threaten all the levels, like you keep linebackers eyes glued onto like the motions at different places like that. Uhm, and in the run game, you guys are able to play power football, but have misdirection. And I just couldn't help but watch, but.


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[Assistant] You know, George Kittle was one of the, you know, one of the best blockers, like at tight end. And it's all, it's a luxury having that guy because...


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[Assistant] You know, he's out there like really blocking defensive ends. You're moving in this direction. And then when you look up, you're like, wow, like who am I going to stop? Am I going to stop Christian McCaffrey on these runs?


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I'm not gonna blitz, but you know, Christian McCaffrey is good enough to split out wide and, and, and really put moves on corners and catch the football. But I think your running game and being so multiple from different formations.


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[Assistant] Really gives guys, uhm, you know, a little bit of trouble. Like, how do you guys see yourself? Do you guys see yourself as a pass offense or is it the run game that you're really predicated off of?


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[Assistant] Collective 31 memberships today. We was in the chat, there was one, and they, I even received a membership. Huh. Cause I've been in chat so much, I got one. Oh, I got one too. So two of those 32.


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[Assistant] I am drinking the Kool-Aid on the Browns defense.