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[Assistant] Was that, you know, cause you're seeing Nip get bigger and bigger, more and more successful, but then, meanwhile, is he, is he telling you that you need to calm down? Or were you calm down? Was your, when you look back at that, was, was, were you somewhat?


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[Assistant] Were you guys sort of making more of a planned effort at pushing your career in the past year or so? It feels like you were sort of ramping up, you were having more videos come out.


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[Assistant] Right. So it must have seemed like particularly fucked up that while you're sort of getting enough of your career, then all of a sudden the situation takes place. Do you remember where you were when you found out?


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[Assistant] I was already on my way up there. Had it ever crossed your mind prior to that that it wasn't a good idea for Nip to be so


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[Assistant] You know, like was that ever a conversation? Like a lot of people sort of speculated on that decision of him to just sort of be so casual and like, you know, feeling comfortable in his own hood, but was that a conversation that internally you guys would sometimes have is like damn, you know, this is kind of a hot place for us to just be at or did it feel like there was so much respect that it didn't matter?


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[Assistant] Typical day when you were posted up there though.


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[Assistant] Like, the way that the situation went down when you look at it now, was things weren't set up the way that they were. Obviously you're supposed to have somebody around them keeping an eye on them in that sort of situation. Or is it a situation where it just happened so fast that the normal safeguards that were involved didn't really work?


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[Assistant] Damn. And so, you show up and what, it's already covered in cops, you can't even get near it?


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[Assistant] That's crazy. And so did you know about this situation with the person that he had the incident with?


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[Assistant] Mhm, so that's not even like somebody you were necessarily familiar with or anything like that. I don't know shit. Right.


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[Assistant] And it's, it's like when, when they have that conversation about that situation, it's crazy just because it felt like when I heard the description of it,


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[Assistant] Nip wasn't doing anything crazy. He was just being honest with somebody. It's like, if you have a certain thing associated with your name, I can't really be out here just taking pictures with you and shit. And not in a disrespectful way. It was just more like,


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[Assistant] You know, you gotta sort that shit out before we can be cool. Yeah. Was that like...


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[Assistant] Is that the kind of thing that you've dealt with before too, or that was a common thing for him to have to deal with because he got everybody trying to be cool with him, including people that got all kinds of dirt on their name?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it just feels like the kind of situation that it would be great to be able to avoid, but it feels like almost kind of inevitable that you're gonna, like, you know, I've had people come up to me on the street a million times trying to take pictures where I gotta say no, you know, where it's just like, I don't, I don't, I don't fuck with you or I don't, I know people that don't fuck with you, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, it's always an awkward conversation, but you could never imagine it sort of transcended to that level.


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[Assistant] So, okay, talk about what those next couple days were like when you're basically trying to have to make sense of the worst tragedy you can imagine happening.


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[Assistant] Was you have to like restructure everything that you were planning? Everything. Family. Everything. Right.


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[Assistant] Was it, was it the kind of thing where, like, I don't know, did it bring you closer to the family just having to be around or having to like, want to sort of bring them together?


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[Assistant] It was such a big thing in LA. Is it almost like, because you grew up with them and you had been around for so long that you didn't know that it was gonna be as big as it was in the sense that it felt like,


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[Assistant] You know, I heard a lot of different people say that there's been nothing in LA that touched the level of impact that that had since Tupac.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just in terms of like, I mean, it's just kind of crazy because


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[Assistant] You, you think of him as a person until he's gone and then like, and I've seen this with a few different artists I work with over the years and it's kind of strange to see the way that people almost turn them into a god once they're gone, like where people can really finally appreciate what they were.


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[Assistant] Okay. Negotiate. So you've been thinking about it, was that something that he felt strongly about? Because he waited a long time to really do the label thing.


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[Assistant] Did you, like what was his perspective on opening businesses in his hood? That's like some of the people have all, have now, there's a lot of controversy about it where people are looking at it and saying,


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[Assistant] Damn, like, you know, everybody respects the fact that he did it, but people also kind of look at it now and they're like, it's too dangerous to just have a store in an area with a lot of people who have nothing. Like, what was his mentality on that? What were the conversations like that you guys had about that?


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[Assistant] It's just, it would feel strange, you know? It's like, that's not where your people are at.


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[Assistant] There are these, these cities, these cultures, these communities, like, why do they have to largely be associated with negativity and violence when you could, those same exact cities could be places where the same people who come from gangs, who come from those streets, are now doing things that are 100% positive for the community.


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[Assistant] Your mentality on gangbanging when you were a kid versus how you think about it now, like were you...


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[Assistant] Did you think that the hothead attitude was it when you were younger and then you sort of calmed down or did you always have a mature perspective on it?


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, later on down the line. You remember that being, that must be hard to understand. Like it's one thing to have your father not around, but your mother is even more intense, right?


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[Assistant] Was it hard to go back to making music once you didn't have like one of the main people that was encouraging you all along? Was that hard for you to get into that mentality after going through all the sadness and everything?


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[Assistant] Like, it's, you know, you go and make songs all the time, but then all of a sudden you have something that's more important than anything you've probably ever rapped about. And you gotta figure out how to get it out in the right way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause you went real viral with the song about it. Yeah. What was, you know, that's kind of like a big decision to make, to be like...


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[Assistant] The first piece of content that you're gonna put out where you talk about one of the most important and traumatic experiences you had in your entire life


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[Assistant] What was it about that song that stood out to you? Was it the first song you made when you went in the booth after that?


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[Assistant] And as men, there's a big incentive for us to sort of not talk about our feelings.


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[Assistant] So to come together, when you're looking at all the memorials and the marches and everything, the Staples Center, uh, event,


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[Assistant] Was that surprising? Cause you know, LA is so divided. So many different factions.


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[Assistant] Do, do you still feel the impacts of that in the sense that I'm sure, you know, there's really nothing that's going to stop a lot of different hoods from beeping with each other. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like there's been an overall improvement in terms of people's willingness to settle problems with violence since then? Just a lot, that some people might be a little bit more mindful about that.


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[Assistant] That's good. I feel like in terms of how people view you too, do you feel like it's a lot of responsibility on your shoulders because people are looking at you as like almost like Nipsey's primary representative?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I mean, everybody got a million friends. I'm sure he had a million friends, but as a rapper, you gotta be very selective with who you put on, because, you know, it's a big decision. If you put somebody on who doesn't deserve it, then they're gonna be looking stupid, and if you


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[Assistant] The way he cosigned you was like, it's just so obvious that it was a very real organic thing. Yea, very organic, like, we didn't even have to talk about shit. He did a lot of shit from the heart. Did you get to see a good amount of the world and shit? Did you travel with him on tour and stuff like that? Yea.


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[Assistant] Right. All in the U.S., so you get to lead the country? That's what I figured, yeaah. But was that dope? You take in a lot of things during that experience that you hadn't taken in before?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and he seems like the kind of guy that would be touching, tapping in with people in every environment. Yeaah, he'd tap in with real niggas everywhere, in every city, yeaah.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I mean, it's kind of crazy because LA feels like it's having a revitalization period right now where there's a lot of, a lot of different talent coming out. Does that make it extra painful to look at?


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[Assistant] Nipsey having to sort of miss out on LA having such an exciting year even.


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[Assistant] Just as a total aside, I just remembered, what happened with this situation, uh, where there was a video of you getting into an altercation with some people? Yeaah. And it was at a show.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was out of show. And I think, uh, somebody on my social media team felt the need to put it on Instagram and then some people weren't so happy about that. Yeah, it was. What happened? What can you say about that?


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[Assistant] And it's kind of crazy because backstage at these rap shows is a lot of times the only time where certain people


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[Assistant] I don't even know who the other people were to be totally honest, but just when I saw the video and just like was reading all the comments about it and shit, I was just like, I can't believe that.


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[Assistant] And dangerous. So you've, you, are you someone who you kinda can't help it that you still kinda love the bullshit?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's, I don't know, it's just crazy, like, there's, but there's certain rappers that have


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[Assistant] Talk to over the years, like Greedo stands out as an example, Mozi stands out as an example.


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[Assistant] But they stand out to me as people who...


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[Assistant] For better or for worse, they just kinda love the street shit so much and that's why they can talk about it so well. Yeaah. But it might also sometimes be the reason why they might still have issues with the law and shit. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean it takes a lot of confidence to like, just not even give a fuck, like go and be in the hood in front of your store.


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[Assistant] Like whatever, like when you look back at that though, do you look at it as a silly decision that you really wish that he had?


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[Assistant] Thought twice about, or is it the kind of thing where that's just how it is? Like, you're just not gonna move in a different way because you are who you are.


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[Assistant] It's sad too, cause like, when we lost X last year, same shit, really at the end of the day, it's him moving around.


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[Assistant] Acting like he ain't famous. And I mean, it's the undoing of a lot of rappers.


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[Assistant] Or to just take somebody who's doing something down a peg because they ain't doing shit. Definitely. There's been a lot said about


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[Assistant] The store, the marathon store, how, you know, did millions and millions and millions of dollars in the past couple of months, how it was getting shut down because the orders were backed up so bad. Do you know what's going on there? Are you involved in like sort of the operations over there?


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[Assistant] Has, as bad as the situation was, has there been connections that happened for you in a way that kind of might not have happened otherwise? I seen you just had a song game come out a couple months ago. Was that something that happened because you guys were both dealing with that loss and everything?


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[Assistant] Were there people that you saw who were maybe showing what you might consider fake love? People who didn't care in the meantime? I'm gonna resist the urge to name any certain names, but I saw some rappers getting shit for just not mentioning it, who maybe were from LA, and people maybe thought that they should have mentioned it. You see anything like that?


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[Assistant] And he was someone where people tried to say, oh, you didn't say anything about Nip. And then he said, you know, this is real life shit. Like, I'm, I feel how I feel about it. And I don't necessarily need to take all of my feelings to Instagram.


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[Assistant] Does it all just feel a lot more important at this point in terms of the mission?


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[Assistant] We want to say fuck this shit bro. Really? You know? It makes you want to just do some wild shit and just not give a fuck?


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[Assistant] There's a fluctuate between that and being motivated and wanting to take over the world and do what y'all were working on.


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[Assistant] The name The Marathon Continues seems weirdly prophetic because that was, you know, that, that, that very much is like a good slogan for what needs to continue to happen now. Yeah, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, definitely. Was it hard for you to see, and again, I'm just not even gonna name names, we can talk in generalities, but certain rappers who ain't even from LA, who maybe had disrespectful things to say?


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[Assistant] Saying things about his girl, anything like that. Is that hard for you to be sitting at home and seeing on Instagram?


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[Assistant] But for somebody like you, it's like, you're not going to hop on Instagram and say fuck you because it's not


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[Assistant] I mean, there was a lot of blow back in LA, certain radio stations stopped playing certain songs from certain artists who maybe were disrespectful. Yeaah, yeaah, I heard that. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeaah. Uhm, do you have any other artists that you've been working with, anybody that you're trying to push aside from yourself?


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[Assistant] YG was, has shown so much love to Nip in a way that was really impressive. Has that been, is that encouraging? Is that exciting? Because of the fact that, you know,


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[Assistant] When people pass in the music industry, and sometimes it feels like, oh, everybody's just playing their songs at their shows and trying to show love and it's kind of fake or whatever, but like, there especially comes a time period


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[Assistant] I mean YG, or you, will be reppin' Nipsey for the rest of their careers, and it's like, sometimes these fans, they might be new fans, it might be their first rap show, they might not really know about Nipsey, it's like important to keep, keep pushing that, because at the end of the day it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, there's so much information coming out at all times that for certain people it could be easy for them to forget about it. It's like important to fight to keep some of these names.


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[Assistant] All that, yeaah. That's what's up. So, the album, you got any potential idea when it might be coming out?


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[Assistant] For sure. If you had to sort of, in a general sense, like what would you say is...


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[Assistant] The, the message that was more important than anything else that Nip had for the world that...


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[Assistant] You think that he would want to share with people, even doing something like this.


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[Assistant] Even making anything out of yourself feels almost impossible. Yeah. Real talk. That's real.


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[Assistant] Alright man, I appreciate you coming in. This is your first like real long interview, huh?


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[Assistant] Nah, man, it's an honor for you to, uh, share your story with, uh, me and the audience. Yeah. Appreciate it, man, for real. Appreciate you.


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[Assistant] Jay Stone, no jumper. All money in. YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes. Like, comment, and subscribe. RIP Nipsey Hussle. Yea man, rest in peace, Nip.


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[Assistant] Two more songs back to back. Continuous country favorites. And three, the crystal clear sound of FM stereo. So turn on the country radio station built for New York. At 97.1 FM. The new country 97 FM. Continuous country favorites.


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[Assistant] Sorry for the rough exit. Your piece working, check. You were just in ananimous. Animous, yes?


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[Assistant] You were using it to access a genetic memory file in Helix labeled ShakeHormack? You worked for Abstergo Entertainment, remember? Any of this ringing a bell! Your session triggered something bad and it's affecting the whole building. We need to find your boss.


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[Assistant] You haven't forgotten your boss, have you? Melanie Lemay, zipper, chipper, overachiever? Here, take your communicator, check it if you get lost. Now let's get outta here!


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[Assistant] What the hell is happening? A file labeled ShakeHormack was booby-trapped with some kind of virus. Your job is to prevent things like this. We need to contain these genetic memories, then we can destroy them.


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[Assistant] You heard the man. Fine. I need to borrow your numbskull. That okay with you, Ms. LeMay?


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[Assistant] Mr. Berg wants us to relive Shay's genetic memories. To do that, we need to access them from Helix. But the Helix is down. We'll have to reboot the main servers in the basement.


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[Assistant] Not only does it restrict our access to the cloud, it's adapted to fuck up the other operating systems that regulate building functions.


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[Assistant] Melanie? Elevators are out of commission. Are we stuck on the floor?


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[Assistant] There's a working area server on this floor. I guess it'll have to do for now.


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[Assistant] We still can't access the servers in the basement, but there's another one located at the top of the building near Melanie's office. That's your next stop.


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[Assistant] At this point the wars aren't really over, but the French have lost their momentum in the colonies.


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[Assistant] But did Makandar's man complete his task before the earthquake hit? I cannot know. Von Rudi has not been found. He was a strong Maroon, one of Makandar's best students. Such a shame. So we cannot know if he found the site. Indeed. But if there was a temple under the waves, I doubt it is still standing. And the artifacts that showed the way? Stolen. The Templars broke in during the chaos. They seized the manuscript and precursor box.


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[Assistant] I have tracked the Templar as far as his coast, but I fear the rest is up to you, my friend.


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[Assistant] I go there proudly, knowing I have done right.


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[Assistant] See, Trevor, for decades, America's chicken restaurants have all abided by certain rules. Chick-fil-A sells chicken in a sandwich, Popeye sells chicken in a box, and KFC mixes their shit with Cheetos.


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[Assistant] That's how big this chicken sandwich is. This chicken sandwich is so big, CNN put the chicken full screen and put the hurricane down in the corner.


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[Assistant] And if Popeyes, if, and if Popeyes thinks that they can launch the most delicious chicken sandwich ever, and then just run out of stock, well then they have another thing coming.


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[Assistant] And if you think, if you think suing Popeyes is extreme, wait until you see how some people are taking the law into their own hands.


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[Assistant] Look, we don't have to agree with these methods, but there's an African proverb, Trevor.


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[Assistant] But at least Jimmy and Gail had the decency to find the sandwich. Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union got theirs in the mail. Popeye sent them a case of chicken. That's how they live, Trevor.


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[Assistant] Nojumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today, I'm very, very happy to have the one and only Bacchanat Nice on the podcast. How you doing, man?


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[Assistant] You definitely fall into the category of somebody that I never thought I would meet because when we first found out about you through the music, that was part of the folklore. It was like, you're never gonna meet this guy. He never leave in Canada. There's been a few artists over the years where that's kind of the rep that they got. It was like, you'll never get to see this guy perform. He ain't going anywhere.


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[Assistant] That's the exact opposite of everybody else coming in and out of Canada, huh?


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[Assistant] There you go. I'm really just interested, uh, in learning exactly where you're coming from though. So let's talk about your early days of what it was like coming up in Canada.


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[Assistant] So the underage shit doesn't work the same as it does in the states? Cause in America, it's like if you get caught off at 17, you're not gonna get punished half as hard as you would at 18, I think.


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[Assistant] Holy shit. So when you look at the stuff that you were doing early on, like just the attempted robbery, that kind of stuff,


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[Assistant] Did you turn to that kind of stuff? Was it that you just had nothing, like you didn't know anything else? Or was it the kind of situation where you had certain people sort of pushing you, telling you that this was a normal way to get some money?


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[Assistant] Did your parents map out like a future, like what your future might look like? Was there a certain thing that you thought that you were supposed to do with your life? Did they want you to go to college? Did they want you to get a certain kind of job?


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[Assistant] How do you take money from the government? I would love to do that if somebody could tell me how.


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[Assistant] That's dope. That's crazy. So, so, okay, you start to get into the street type of life and everything. Where you're coming from, are you like joining a gang? Is there even an equivalent to that? Or is it more just like everybody's going about their own things, figuring out their own hustles?


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[Assistant] I'm starting to, I feel like that's how it always happens over time. Even when you look at America, it's like all the different regions of America over the past 10, 15 years have sort of been infected by this idea that every different gang, every different crew of dudes needs to at some point sort of label themselves as


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[Assistant] Right. Yeah, that's weird. Uhm, when you talk about like being in the streets out there though, what in Canada?


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[Assistant] People are smoking a lot of weed. People are definitely drinking a lot. We've all seen trailer park boys. But is there, like, is everybody doing coke? Is heroin big? I know it is all the way over Vancouver and shit, but is it the same sort of thing on the east coast of Canada?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. That's where, like, cause growing up, it was like, I would go on a BMX trip with some of my friends and we would go up to Montreal, be able to buy porno magazines, be able to fucking drink. We thought it was the greatest shit on earth.


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[Assistant] But did you grow up like right in the city or did you grow up in like outskirts of town or something like that?


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[Assistant] So, you catch this charge, and is it the kind of thing where it's normal for you to get caught up out there and you get two years just for attempted robbery type thing? Or is it the kind of thing where they're giving you chances and trying to keep you out of that system? Because we talk about the prison system out here, like it's just so unfair and fucked up. Do you have the same impression of it? Same thing, same thing.


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[Assistant] So, uh, yeah, but then you get into the prison system. Were you like shocked? Were you ready for this in any way?


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[Assistant] Right. And is stuff, uh, like when we talk about gang stuff, it's very much like the, the gang, or prison stuff. We think the gang stuff matters, the race stuff matters. Are people sort of organizing in a similar way in Kansas as well?


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[Assistant] I think that's what they say out here too, is that like, your, your blood or crypt shit don't really matter that much once you get to jail.


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[Assistant] They just always say that once you go to jail out here, that it don't matter, you'd be cool with some bloods, that if you were on the street and you saw them, you'd be going crazy. But in jail, it just kinda ceases to matter. But uh, yeaah, did you make it through pretty smoothly, or did you have any issues during your initial bid?


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[Assistant] When you were, when you were in there the first time though, was there anything, any part of you that was starting to tell you, like, you were meant for something better than this? Had you even begun to identify that you might have the talent to go beyond prison? Was there any, any dream that you had at that moment?


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[Assistant] But were you not making music when you were younger? No. You never really got into it? No. At all.


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[Assistant] I just understood it, and I loved it, and I appreciated it. Right. Yeah, I feel the same way. I've been obsessed with it my whole life, but for whatever reason, it's such a thing to become a rapper.


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[Assistant] You know? And it seems so, so cozy and easy if you avoid it. Because once you become a rapper, then you have to face the reality that you might be a wack rapper, and then you gotta carry that around for the rest of your life.


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[Assistant] So uhm, you get out, how the fuck do you end up getting caught up again 30 days later?


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[Assistant] But they arrested you but they didn't have any kind of proof or anything to go on?


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[Assistant] That's crazy. So then, so but you're locked out meanwhile for a long ass time while this is all going through the court system or what happened?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so is someone getting shot in that neighborhood a really fucking big deal because there's just not that much gun violence?


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[Assistant] Yeah, sometimes when it feels like a really big deal when people get shot here, but then I think about all the times that I know somebody got shot and that nothing happened and it wasn't in the news and like people forgot about it a few days later and I'm like, that's kind of crazy.


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[Assistant] I mean, I can think of so many examples. It's fucked. Uhm, so okay, that time back in prison though, was it more of the same? It wasn't anything too special or? Are you talking about the second time? Yeah.


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[Assistant] It's like that a lot of times here too. If you hear about somebody getting five years, it's a good chance they're gonna do like three.


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[Assistant] Okay, so. With good behavior and assuming they don't stab somebody in the shower or whatever, yeaah. Uhm, okay, but so that time you're starting to really think like, I gotta get this shit together and you're starting to really like strategize because you're getting older, there's a little bit more pressure on you.


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[Assistant] That's the nastiest thing about prison, when you realize that they're really taking away, not just somebody's youth, but their ability to become a functioning human being. Like, I was, I forget, I was interviewing a little while back, but they were like, you know, I came out of prison at 28.


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[Assistant] Because you missed so much of it, that's crazy. So you get out and then how do you end up meeting Drake? Like how long did it take until you get out that this ends up happening and you sort of start moving in a different direction?


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[Assistant] That's crazy. What do you think he saw in you that... He seems like the kind of guy who...


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[Assistant] You know, even if, like, like when he comes to LA, like, you've seen scenes of him, like, that song with Game, and they're really in the hood and shit. And it's like, you know that Drake, regardless of whatever he's actually on, he just appreciates the street side of things and respects it a lot. Is that right?


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[Assistant] Well, it's interesting though too, because I mean, probably a lot of people want to act like, oh, Baka's just his thug or his goon or some shit, but I mean, if you're Drake, you got like real deal security. Exactly. So it's like, he doesn't need you to beat somebody up for him. Exactly. He's got some secret service motherfuckers to do that, right? So what was like the nature of you guys sort of being around each other?


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[Assistant] And he's very much like embraced and tried to sort of represent the soul of Canada and like where he's really from and his music and I feel like he's somebody that's smart enough that he understands that the closer he stays to the streets the better off. Cause I mean that's the remarkable thing about Drake is like 10 years of this shit. Like he's...


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[Assistant] Right. You just don't get into that position unless you're strategic and, you know, we've seen so many people that their music just essentially becomes sort of like bleached of any sort of interesting shit. And even a lot of the risks that he takes, like, you know, like, when you put gigs on an album, you know that a lot of people are not gonna get gigs as flow.


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[Assistant] So you guys become cool. What's like, there's gotta be a part of you that's like,


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[Assistant] I'm my own man. I don't want to just be hanging out with somebody else that has their own shit going on, but he's meanwhile like fully embracing you and being like, come on the road with us, do all this stuff. How do you sort of find your way to fit in in that kind of situation?


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[Assistant] Wow, that's shocking. But you could have that skill sort of on deck but then meanwhile you're just not even, you're thinking about everything around rapping aside from actually rapping and then it actually works out.


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[Assistant] Dude, it's like a subconscious, uh, education. 100%. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, you get on that track, or you start making music. It's funny when you say that too, because that's almost exactly the same story as how Gucci first started rapping. He had like some younger dude that he was trying to push, brings him to Zaytoven, and then he ends up getting sort of frustrated with this other guy. He starts rapping, Zaytoven's like, no, no, no, it's all you.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. That's crazy. That's kind of a great minds think alike. Yeaah. You kind of are the Canadian Gucci man I feel like anyway. Yeaah. Got a little record.


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[Assistant] Says whatever he wants to happen and just hopes it'll happen. That's hilarious. So uhm, yeah, at this point, okay, so that one song though, was it like that song was the one song that you were like, this is what I want to push or did you sort of like just present a bunch of your stuff to the team?


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[Assistant] You'd rather be a good street dude than a ba- a good street dude who then kind of fucked it up with the rap thing, you know? Right. But it's like, yeaah, god you're lucky they- they're both, yeaah, they both seem to be working out, that's awesome.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. Okay, but so then from your perspective, you just keep working and then did you figure out that that song would be the song?


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[Assistant] Was that your thought process? Or like, this is the one that I wanna push?


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[Assistant] That's a big challenge as a rapper is to be real enough with yourself to have an honest opinion about your stuff. Because a lot of people, like young kids in particular, they make one song and they love themselves so much that they think that that song is it. And they sort of lack the...


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[Assistant] Understanding to be able to say, okay, maybe this song's alright, but I need to work on this, I need to work on that. That's kind of the gift that you had is because of the fact that you have this long life ahead of you where you weren't just being the self-absorbed musician that you were able to maybe take a look at the game from a fairer perspective.


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[Assistant] Guess what I have to say when the average person shows me their fucking video? Nothing. Why? Because I really don't give a shit. I don't have anything to gain from helping you. But if he actually cares enough to even be critical, I mean, that's like a gift. It's a gift, man.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. What do you think about, like, the thing that you sometimes hear


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[Assistant] Pundits, people who talk online about music say, is that they try to say, oh, OVO,


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[Assistant] If you end up signing with OVO, you end up giving your best shit to Drake. Do you think there's any truth to that?


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[Assistant] And what's crazy though is that to a lot of people who may have a less mature perspective, they would say, well why didn't he hop on your song when it was blowing up? But I think the reality is is that...


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[Assistant] Yeah, that would have made the song bigger, but he probably wouldn't have been doing you any favors in the long run because getting under that massive microscope that quickly is... We've seen a lot of people whose careers couldn't handle the weight of the Drake feature.


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[Assistant] You'd rather be a great version of who you really are.


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[Assistant] A lot of people get into a position and then immediately start thinking about how they can get to the next position instead of getting good at playing their role.


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[Assistant] And it takes a lot of patience, honestly, to be able to do well in the environment of being around a person who's a massive superstar. Massive. You have to be patient because you sort of are moving at their speed and you have to learn to be a soldier. You have to learn to be someone who can take yourself and put it aside.


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[Assistant] Now that, you know, you sort of are able to travel around more freely apparently and everything, how are you feeling about the music right now? What are you working towards? Is it like a project in mind? Are you still working on that next big single? Where are you at right now?


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[Assistant] Definitely. That's dope. I feel like a lot of people are really fucking looking forward to it.


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[Assistant] Just being out here doing all this media and stuff is that kind of a, it must be kind of wild though just to feel like you...


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[Assistant] Are so in the game, but you haven't really gotten a chance to do a lot of the normal rapper stuff, like just being able to be out and in front of the people in such a way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's kinda crazy because, you know, too, like, I can tell the way you say, like, you know, a lot of Americans think Canada is like this or whatever. It's like,


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[Assistant] They feel the need to like characterize it as being this jokey ass thing and it's like, no, not at all. I interviewed a dude in England who got picked up for a fucking murder a week after I did the interview. And then I kind of understood why he didn't want to talk about any kind of criminal stuff in the interview.


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[Assistant] That's a different type of individual. That's all I'm gonna say on that. A lot of times when there's a shooting in LA or whatever, realistically it might be two guys shooting down the block and like they don't know who hit who and you know anybody can tap a trigger a bunch of times but to fucking really get up in there and stab somebody, you gotta be a sick fuck. Intimate. That's crazy shit.


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[Assistant] Yep. Kids, don't stab anyone. That's my advice. Real talk. Try to avoid that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, so I really appreciate you coming through. Anything else that we need to know in terms of what you got coming out in the near future?


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[Assistant] Have you been up to Calabasas? Have you been at the spot?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna chop the H off and shit so that everybody will think that I'm legit.


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[Assistant] I appreciate it. Baka not nice. Nojumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube. Soundcloud. iTunes. Like, comment, subscribe. Nojumper.com if you want some merch. Appreciate it, yo.


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[Assistant] We were being strangled by our debts. We couldn't sleep, our work suffered. We'd heard about bankruptcy, but didn't know much about it.


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[Assistant] We figured our creditors were using lawyers to protect their rights.


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[Assistant] All of my fellow actors who are there day after day to lend us support and time and effort and patience. Of course my family, my mother, my father, Suzanne, Pamela, Steven, all you guys.


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[Assistant] Once you see them in action, you'll be convinced that they're all as deadly as a shot of poison.


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[Assistant] Okay, and the winner is... the outstanding villain, daytime, Michael Sazlo. Guy in the light!


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[Assistant] Thank you very much. I'd like to thank, uh, David Jacobs and Michael Feilman for the structure of our show and bringing it, getting the message across to that wonderful public of ours.


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[Assistant] I'd like to thank Soap Opera Digest and Meredith Brown for their participation in, in, uh, Loving Not Slamming and them getting the message to you. And thank the, you. Thank you very much. I love you.


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[Assistant] But the trip every morning is worth it, thank you. I'd like to thank my big producer in life who had a lot of confidence in me when I had none for myself. Thanks mom, thanks.


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[Assistant] Nojumper, coolest podcast in the world, I'm here with Mod Sun, how you living my guy?


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[Assistant] 170. That's crazy bro. On the dot today. I fucking nearly like teared up last night watching the video. Really? Yeaah. It was honestly like very fucking moving because to be honest, it just...


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[Assistant] I don't know, I always looked at you and kinda like just assumed that you really were the thing that you were projecting to be. And it was just very like moving to realize like how much pain there was behind that.


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[Assistant] So there's a lot of people doing that because after I watched your video last night, I noticed that earlier when I was on YouTube, that it was recommending me some video from a guy I never even heard of, like how I quit heroin and shit. So I, I guess that that makes a lot of sense that that's kind of a thing that people are really drawn towards hearing because everybody can relate to, even if you're not on heroin, they can relate to being addicted to something.


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[Assistant] Right, because that, like you, I guess that's true, like you're the definition of someone who is creating an image of a lifestyle on social media.


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[Assistant] And that you felt like you had to continue to keep fulfilling it. Being this party boy.


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[Assistant] Right, because that's kind of the weird thing is that you are apparently doing so much of this, but-


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[Assistant] I mean, I was always looking at you like assuming you probably did drugs, but I never like explicitly had a conversation with you about it. And it's not like you were like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, did you, when you decide, let me ask you that, what was the rock bottom? What made you really like, I need to do this? And you went as far as to go to rehab right away or did you try to do it yourself?


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[Assistant] Like, there was like a, like this past year I haven't done it all, and the year before that I did it like once or twice. So, and now I just like don't even drink at all. It's like I'm very much feel like removed from that. Someone to hear about people finding new ways to totally fuck themselves up.


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[Assistant] It's kind of fascinating. And I saw a lot of myself, I guess, in the video that you, that you made and stuff. I never got far enough to have to do this like super difficult.


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[Assistant] Like a kid, looking at all these stars, rock stars that you're looking up to and you're very much like wanting to


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[Assistant] And it's like as a kid you have that sort of short sighted vision.


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[Assistant] Oh, all these guys died young or I mean in a rare case you got somebody like Lemmy who like shockingly was able to keep it going for all those years. But I mean still he died before he had to. Exactly, exactly.


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[Assistant] And you think that by blowing up everything in your life and being that hardcore that you're really making things better, you think that like by alienating the people who love you because you care so much about your passion that you're somehow making yourself better.


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[Assistant] Well I totally just relate to it in a certain way too, where it's like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think about like maybe- You're self-made, bro. Four or five years ago, I had this girlfriend, she was so fucking sweet, she really loved me, and I remember I went on this trip for like two or three weeks, and then I come home, and she has like a normal job and shit, so she's not on my insane schedule where I can just run around, do whatever, and she was like really wanted to see me, and I got back from this trip.


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[Assistant] I'm like yea, I'm like yea, I can stop by and like see you on your lunch break for a little bit, but I got these podcasts and it's like, I could have been a much more reasonable person and moved it around and stuff, but it's like, I really, like when I look back at that, I'm like, you were such an asshole that you like really took it for granted how she cared about you.


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[Assistant] Right. And I need to be this hardcore artist in order to be what I'm trying to be. But when I look at that, it's like that was me wanting to be successful so bad that I felt like I needed to take things to an extreme, you know?


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[Assistant] And he just knows himself enough to know that he's an addict. And it's like he could take it to that level.


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[Assistant] You know, he's an addict with the music too, the same way he was an addict with drugs. I feel like he, Eminem kind of knows that he's at risk of taking it too far.


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[Assistant] You're feeling shit now in a way that you were just covering up for a long ass time, huh?


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, I always like just looked at you and thought this is the kind of dude who


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[Assistant] Is the kind of dude that I apparently can't be where I don't feel like I can go out and get drunk and do coke every night and fucking or even occasionally and continue to function as a person. But you were kind of like living out that sort of like superhero Hollywood vibe. Like when you were talking about living on the strip in particular, where you like completely just put yourself like.


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[Assistant] In that element where you can just fucking walk out the door and be around a ton of other people who are actually getting fucked up in public and it's legal.


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[Assistant] That is crazy dude. Like, so, how, like, I just want to get a picture of like how bad your lifestyle actually got at a certain point. You said you were buying a fucking eight ball every other day for seven years.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I was doing the, I was trying to do the math earlier. That is many hundreds of thousands of dollars. So much money. Yeah.


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[Assistant] When you're 16, that doesn't seem like the worst thing. It seems kind of dramatic and romantic.


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[Assistant] What are the physical symptoms like of getting off alcohol and coke after doing it for that long? Cause I bet your body just must have been screaming out for it, right?


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[Assistant] Your brain starts playing those tricks on you even though you're like pretty far away from it.


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[Assistant] Right. Who introduced you to lean? Cause that was like, the thing that you got into at the end. I guess maybe don't have to say who, but. We're still not snitching.


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[Assistant] Oh, it is, 100%. That's why it was kinda crazy hearing you talk about how addictive it is, cause I'm like, man, I'm glad this guy didn't try heroin, cause I've heard like real heroin addicts talk about how pussy lean is, like, it's just not an efficient way to get this shit into your body, you know?


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[Assistant] When I was in high school. Saving grace kind of too, huh? Yep. You probably could have got wrapped up in that real easy.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, your last relationship that you were in was that, was it a healthy relationship that you fucked up or would you say that there was something like unhealthy that maybe you were kind of running away from? Oh, it was so fucking unhealthy.


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[Assistant] And that's what's weird is that like even me as a grown man who knows you, I'm looking at Twitter and thinking like, damn, like that looks like such a great, like cool relationship. They seem like they have like such a charmed existence. And I'm just, I'm like wondering like a fan, like I wonder if they're just sitting around doing drugs all day.


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[Assistant] Those kids think about it, like the fucking 14 year old girls that wanna be like her and are just thinking that everything's so great and you know.


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[Assistant] At a certain point she's gotta start thinking about her career and be like how is this, she's probably definitely got people telling her this doesn't look good.


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[Assistant] Did it bother you or did it have any impact on the relationship?


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[Assistant] You know, you sort of are presenting like an image of a lifestyle, like everybody is on Instagram and stuff. Did that ever become like a factor that there's expectations and people-


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[Assistant] Because that could be like just business for somebody who's in the right state of mind, but for you, you were like, you kind of got lost in it.


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[Assistant] Do you look back at it and think like damn, like was I in a way


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[Assistant] Particularly interested in dating this person because I'm subconsciously or expressively


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[Assistant] I want that level of fame. I want to go past this level that I'm at.


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[Assistant] She ended up accusing you of basically like talking to the press and sort of doing that exactly, right? Did you actually do that or was that kind of? No, no, like yo,


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[Assistant] Were you seriously in a fucking throuple with Tana? Or was that media cat?


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[Assistant] I could very much see coming from a certain world and not really like understanding Tana but you would just see it and just be like disgusted even though like I totally like her and get it now.


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[Assistant] Are you describing right now you beginning to believe that Tana was a capable star and musician or are you describing yourself falling in love with her?


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[Assistant] Really, why? Like Tana couldn't, Tana didn't want to accept a fucking brutal contract, like what they were probably trying to give her? Bingo.


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[Assistant] It's so hard for me to imagine because of the fact that like, okay, you're this boss ass bitch who's got all this money and everything she needs in life. It's like, why would she then just want to start sharing her boyfriend with her friend? Like that just is sort of like a strange plot twist.


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[Assistant] So is it hard for you now though to like manage the fact that people having sex is normal and that you're a sex addict apparently?


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[Assistant] It feels so good. Like, cause I'm in that place right now where I feel like I'm 100% genuinely addicted to working out and eating healthy, and I've never been so in the state of mind in my life, and it just feels so weird to have kind of turned that corner and to be


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[Assistant] Really do everything right, and it's been just like great feeling, you know? I, like, I'm still smoking Halloween, I'm still smoking how it spliffs, so I'm fucking...


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[Assistant] Tobacco out the ass, which is like, that's my one thing I'm holding onto. And there's a big part of me that wants to just stop, but it's like, man, that's my one thing I got going on.


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[Assistant] If you don't grow, the party boy thing, it's like, it definitely probably served you well for a long time, but I feel like.


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[Assistant] Probably people are just as interested in seeing you get your shit together, you know?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but dude man, like. Those days, think about you those days.


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[Assistant] I just think about those days of how I looked at you and I remember just like thinking like it's so tight that he's able to like live this way, but wondering.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, does it help a lot knowing that there are probably a lot of people now who are looking at you like,


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[Assistant] They're so proud of you and they're so happy for you and knowing how let down they would all be if you fucked it up tomorrow.


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[Assistant] It's right there. You're not stuck where you're at. That's the most important thing. A lot of people feel like they wake up and eat McDonald's every day and they got to keep eating McDonald's for the rest of their life and that they can't get it, that they just can't make a change. And it's like, I think that's the most important thing is just to know that like whatever kind of habits you got, they're in your own control.


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[Assistant] That's beautiful. Can I ask you one more question? Yes, please, please. Are you still a Claremont twin?


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[Assistant] Yeah, was this during the sober part of your existence? It was huh?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I was wondering, I'm like, she doesn't seem like she's getting fucked up. I wonder what she thinks about that.


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[Assistant] Fuck that. R Kelly is one person that could tell you, don't record shit.


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[Assistant] That's crazy bro. Hey, I really appreciate you having this conversation with me, man.


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[Assistant] Are you, are you and her on better terms now? You said you spoke to her I believe in the video or were you not talking about her?


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[Assistant] That's just like a gay thing, I guess. They just fuck with unicorns. Unicorns rock. Yeah. Unicorns rock. They're so gay that it's almost unbelievable.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. I was gonna run out with that. That got real kush in there. That do? Okay, yeaah, get the kush. Ask your local dispenser to stock it, and if you had a meaningful experience with this in any way, please drop a comment below, we'd appreciate it. We will be actually watching, so. It's not just an engagement thing, it's a community thing.


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[Assistant] I love you, we're done. Thank you man, for real. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] I'm Susan C. Forth Hayes, and I'll always think of Bill for bringing music to soap opera, which led to my wonderful 17 year happy marriage to my day's co-star Bill Hayes.


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[Assistant] No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm doing an interview I never thought I would do. I'm gonna be honest with you, I've been listening to Bone Thug since I was like 10 years old or some shit.


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[Assistant] Never really even thought about the fact that I would one day get to meet.


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[Assistant] One of the minds behind some of the most, uh, I dunno, influential stuff I was listening to as a kid.


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[Assistant] Great to have you here, man. People have been talking about you. The past couple days in particular.


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[Assistant] Well, you're making Ohio just sound like this completely lawless place. Were you guys just in the total slums where pretty much anything went down and the cops just weren't coming around?


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[Assistant] Wow, crazy. I'm just gonna take a quick break to send a shout out to our sponsor, Eagle Energy. They make these, uh, really cool caffeine inhaler pens. Uh, it's basically like, you know, the way people hit a jewel or whatever, except instead of, you know, getting the tobacco in you, you get some of that caffeine, and it's, it's kinda like more efficient and a smoother way to live than drinking Red Bull or coffee or whatever.


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[Assistant] Dude, I actually have had a lot of people hit me up. Chief Keefe hit me up about this.


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[Assistant] I don't know if we actually got it to him, but he wants one. Oh wow. So we got these for you if you want them. Uh, people who want to check it out, the link is in the description. They can check it out at eagle dot energy.


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[Assistant] And, uh, use the promo code NOJUMPER22 if you wanna support one of our sponsors, Eagle Energy, who's been holding down the stream. And, uh, also I just wanted to say NOJUMPER.COM if you want these new shirts from our New York pop-up.


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[Assistant] Uhm, getting back into uh, business here. So.


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[Assistant] To actually being sort of like running the streets and doing stuff like what was described in that story. Like I'm just interested in exactly how long you were sort of in the streets living this life before the music stuff started to call you.


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[Assistant] The other Bone Thugs members though, like did y'all click up at a very early stage in terms of like the actual criminal element or how did you guys sort of come together in terms of like running around doing this sort of thing?


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[Assistant] So basically music was what initially created the bond, but then not being successful immediately with the music was what basically led you guys to be running around in the streets.


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[Assistant] And you were seeing a ton of people your age, who were again, wrapped up in drugs? Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Everybody. Did none of you guys ever really got into it at a young age? Like, nobody even tried it out?


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[Assistant] Damn, so uhm, you said that you organized that, that battle.


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[Assistant] What was hip hop to you at that point? Like were you just hearing rap on the radio? Did you have enough money that you could be going to the store and buying tapes and shit like that? Like how deep had your love affair with rap music gotten at that point?


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[Assistant] And it's crazy too because it's like, I know cause I grew up in fucking New Hampshire, uh, that growing up in an area like that, you know, Ohio, I would put in sort of a similar, uh, category where it's not like a real established hip hop tradition. And it's like, you guys were probably,


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[Assistant] The idea of being a successful rapper out of Ohio probably stood out to you as, we don't even know if this is possible. Nobody's really done this.


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[Assistant] That's crazy, because normally I feel like when you see an artist pop off,


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[Assistant] There's a period of time where nobody fucking believes in them and it's so hard to sort of cross that barrier of people believing that


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[Assistant] You guys were doing at that time. It almost probably seemed to you guys like, this seems amazing, but we don't even know if the world's ready for it.


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[Assistant] That's hilarious. So uhm, when did you, so like, I mean, I guess we could even put it in context to this.


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[Assistant] You, you guys, what, what extents were you going to, to get your music heard? Like what, what exactly were you guys doing in terms of just trying to find any way to get acknowledged? What was the path at that time? Were you playing a lot of local shows or trying?


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[Assistant] Oh, but how did they even know that you had the weapon? Cause then you just bring them to the hospital? Oh yea, but they got me though.


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[Assistant] That is so crazy. Holy shit. So, so how long did you end up doing for the gun?


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[Assistant] Were you, were you sitting there in jail, mad as fuck that you were in jail? Or were you sitting there like, well, at least I only got like a year or so in comparison to what could have happened, given what actually happened.


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[Assistant] When did the names come into play? When did you guys come up with that idea?


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[Assistant] The name Bone Thugs of Harmony and then everybody having bone in their name.


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[Assistant] Nobody was actually saying bone as slang for having sex either, right?


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[Assistant] Right. Uhm, so okay, that's how, how the names all sorta came into play and everything. Yes, indeed.


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[Assistant] Overall, in terms of all the years combined.


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[Assistant] You guys have held it together better than most. In terms of really keeping that unity. Which is weird, because it's like realistically, four dudes that meet when you're sixteen, all of a sudden you're in your thirties, what the fuck do you have in common? Not a lot. It's like, it takes a real commitment to keep everybody on the same page.


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[Assistant] Really? Because you see so many rappers who are just straight in the dirt with their homies and then they get famous and six months later they hate each other and they can't stand each other.


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[Assistant] It's like they forget about the fact that they were there for each other when they didn't have shit. That just disappears from their minds so quickly once they start having things.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Is it, is it easier to get along now? That you guys are adults, you got families, you got like a re- you know, if you go and do a show, it's kinda like just going to a day at work, right?


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[Assistant] I've watched interviews with you and other members.


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[Assistant] Being interviewed together and, not even just you, but just everybody in general where I felt like I could read emotions on people's faces and I could almost tell who was a little annoyed with who, who was having a bad day, who was maybe just not feeling this, who got a little annoyed when a certain member started talking too long. I'm sitting there thinking like, this is interesting.


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[Assistant] I see it all the time with different rap groups and everything and that's always what I'm impressed by is their ability to, you know, I was interviewing ICP and I felt like I fucking felt that vibe between them a little bit almost like they both wanted to talk a lot.


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[Assistant] But they never let, even though I could tell that they sort of was jockeying for positions so much that they didn't let it bother them enough that it actually became a thing. And I think that's what is kind of like the sign that a group is going to be able to last for a long time is if they can have these little disagreements and you can just sort of brush them aside.


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[Assistant] You guys created something together that's bigger than any of you on your own. And that's gotta feel crazy. So I've like formed a brand that is bigger than the sum of the parts.


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[Assistant] Like if we sat here and talk about Wu-Tang, I mean, you could name the Wu-Tang members that are world famous, and there's Wu-Tang members who really just, mostly the hardcore Wu-Tang fans know.


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[Assistant] That's kinda crazy, that's interesting. Do you feel, you're wearing the Wu-Tang hat, is that like a group that you always felt a close sort of kinship with?


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[Assistant] Right. I only seen the first one, but it's really interesting because they basically like...


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[Assistant] It's not the story of Wu-Tang, it's all these characters that are based on Wu-Tang and then there's different storylines happening, like, the, the, the beginning of it is like a big shooting and then like, like a guy shoots up somebody's house and then he goes and he's like hanging out with RZA and shit and you're like,


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[Assistant] Who is this guy that did the shooting and then at some point you have to realize like, that's not a member of Wu-Tang, that's just a character in the show who's supposed to exist within the Wu-Tang.


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[Assistant] That's set in your neighborhood, you guys have characters based on you, but there's all kinds of wild shit. It's not attempting to tell the actual, legitimate story.


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[Assistant] That is really interesting, like an alternate universe, but you know what's interesting about it is it's almost like,


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[Assistant] You know now they just make superhero movies over and over, like we've seen like 15 different Batman movies that are like different versions of the Batman story.


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[Assistant] Somebody pulls up on us in a crazy low rider that's just bumping up and down and shit and they're like, just like California. And I'm like.


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[Assistant] But it's just so crazy to think that this kid had that passion of a draw to you that he, I mean he might be crazy.


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[Assistant] Imagine that that happened and his name was like, you know, Chan Bone. I don't know what his actual name is, but like Japanese name Bone. And then you guys just co-signed. That'd be like T.I. signing Iggy Azalea. It's like, yeah, I'm from the trap.


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[Assistant] Man, so when we talk about the greatest group of all time conversation, this is something that you got a little bit wrapped up in, uh, earlier this year.


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[Assistant] Is that something where you felt, like, is it actually really important to you that you guys are considered the best group of all time, or is it just a respect thing, where you just want people to, when they have that conversation, to give bone the respect they deserve? What's your thinking on that?


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[Assistant] That's what the crazy part is, is that rap has been around so long that there's hugely influential groups that came before our time, like, like for me, like, I was, I started listening to rap like a couple years after Run DMC kinda had their run.


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[Assistant] It becomes very hard to, and I don't think that there's any value in being a current rapper having that kind of conversation about how you compare to


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[Assistant] How you compare to Biggie. It's just, there's no value in you even trying to have that conversation because nobody wants to hear it.


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[Assistant] What got you pissed off enough that you wanted to actually do the diss track at the Migos in 21?


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[Assistant] Okay, cause I was thinking, I'm like, that's a little extreme. That's a lot.


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[Assistant] Oh, so it was just a different sort of overall fuck new school bullshit type song.


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[Assistant] Has it been weird for you to watch hip hop change so much and to have so many of the established values that you came in the game with, whether it's musical, whether it's street stuff, respect stuff, so much of that has eroded over the years. Is it hard for you to watch that and like you, you stay roughly the same and everything around you in the hip hop world changes so much?


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[Assistant] Right, see this is one thing I'm really interested to ask you about because you guys have the kind of catalog, like I talk to a lot of newer artists about streaming and how much money they make from streaming and blah blah blah. I mean you guys have the kind of catalog where I'm sure you still stream like outlandish amounts. Oh yea. All the time, you're on the radio, videos, whatever the fuck it is.


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[Assistant] Do you still make enough money from just like the streaming or the licensing type stuff? Are you totally chilling? Like you make enough in a year that you don't have to do shit because that money still comes in so good.


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[Assistant] And there's so many people who, around the time that you guys were at your height, they were around that level. But they don't play, like you don't hear their songs anymore.


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[Assistant] Four moms, okay. Well at least you're not future where his baby moms are all forming together creating a coalition against him.


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[Assistant] Is that stressful to not be able to be as involved as you might want to be in their lives?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Just cause there's so many of them and you're obviously focused on your career, doing your thing.


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[Assistant] It's just like having a, like an army of friends.


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[Assistant] Do you ever think about the fact that one day you're gonna be 80 and because you have nine kids, it's like one of them has gotta have a good job and they're gonna help you out no matter what.


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[Assistant] You got nobody to rely on, but if you have nine, that's a pretty good bet that one of them is going to figure something out.


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[Assistant] And Bone is kind of that, that kind of group where maybe they're not the first one to come to mind, but then when you actually think about it and you actually compare the accolades and the impact and everything, it's like, oh well clearly they belong in this conversation about top groups.


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[Assistant] And in reality it's like, you know, if you join the NBA...


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[Assistant] To just give you whatever you want, treat you like a fucking giant and grown baby and basically not, there's no incentive for them to really get you ready for life.


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[Assistant] Do you think that EZ, in a lot of ways, wanted to right the wrongs from his own career? Like he had saw what happened with NWA and how it didn't turn into what it could have. And he was looking at you guys, really thinking like,


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[Assistant] I can be an industry guy. I can help them be great where maybe NWA wasn't as great as it could have been.


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[Assistant] So you guys didn't really, Easy didn't really get to see much of your success.


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[Assistant] Right, so he wasn't even around for the second album, okay, cause I was so young that it was kind of weird for me to even think about this from that age, cause I remember


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[Assistant] Right. I remember being in school when I found out about it and being distraught and nobody else understanding the fact that I was really upset about this rapper in California dying.


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[Assistant] That was crazy. Uhm, do you feel like, cause okay, I was just at the show over the weekend with a Snoop game exhibit, uh, War and G, it was one of those like 90s sort of revival type shows, it was called How the West was Won. Uhm, do you guys end up doing a fair amount of those, where they sort of bring together like groups from the 90s and shit?


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[Assistant] The backstage area was mind blowing to me, because I'm just like, dude, this is like the most G's I've ever been around in my life, and everybody's smiling, everybody's having a good time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was a beautiful, beautiful vibe in the air.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that was one thing that struck me though is just that so many of those people have like stuff built into their performance where they still, uh,


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[Assistant] Is that something that you think is particularly important to just like literally go out of your way to keep his name alive because he's not


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Alright, can we talk about the Crossroads video, just a little bit? Who conceptualized that? Was that just an idea that they brought you? Cause this is like, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, you should definitely go watch it. Which is amazing that it has a hundred million YouTube views in ten years, given that it's been out for like, twenty-something years. Yea, yea. That's amazing.


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[Assistant] Right, it was about a lot of your homages have passed, but not easy.


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[Assistant] When you're a kid, a dude like that will make an impression on you like, damn, he's just slick as hell. How you live like that? That's crazy.


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[Assistant] There's something about the delivery on that bar that just made everybody in the whole world just all of a sudden remember and think about it. Who the fuck is Uncle Charles? Yea.


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[Assistant] But just the delivery of the way he says it, and it's not, it's not a line that on its own is anything that interesting compared to the rest of the song, but the delivery just made everybody just, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] Crazy. And then you guys almost won Music Video of the Year, but you were beat up by Coolio.


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[Assistant] That's weird, cause I feel like that song has aged better than Gangster's Paradise. Or was it Fantastic Voyage? I can't even remember what Coolio song it was.


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[Assistant] He did. And, you know, I don't know if he's still doing it, but the last time I saw him- Oh yeah, he is. Well, but I mean, he still has that haircut, but there's like not a lot of hair to work with. He's got like three things going on.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he was with ICP for a while too, I don't know if he still is. Also, why am I mentioning ICP twice in this interview?


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[Assistant] People thought they were crazy. You actually meet up with them. They're just super nice, chill guys.


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[Assistant] Mind blowing. People might not know this, but you actually, what's in your cup?


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[Assistant] Right, shut up Ben Baller, I'm still going to Ben Baller podcast soon. Yes indeed. You like that stuff, I don't know that many people that drink it. Oh yea? Yea. But I always see it, they always-


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[Assistant] Right. So you still have a strong love affair with cannabis, or what are your thoughts on that?


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[Assistant] That's like a real drug when you have the fucking weed syrup or the edibles and you just take too much.


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[Assistant] That's fucking good. I feel like you're actually making me triggered enough that I think I have some of the weed syrup in my closet at home so I might have to get involved with that.


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[Assistant] You're gonna feel real groggy and then you're gonna sleep for a really long time and then you're not gonna feel that great in the morning, so... Is it worth it?


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[Assistant] I hear you. What do you got, uh, coming out? Anything you should keep an eye out for?


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[Assistant] Mmm, that's the truth. And really, if you wanna make an impression, that's the only option.


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[Assistant] If you come out sounding like, you know, you could sound like an alright Lil Wayne.


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[Assistant] This is sick, dude. Yes it is. I'm excited. Damn, we're gonna get the whole- Got you together. Woohoo! The bone hats! This is lit! That's fucking fire merch right there. Hell yea.


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[Assistant] Appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. Oh good, bro. Honestly, it was an honor, uh, getting to talk to you. Man, same here.


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[Assistant] The thing that I could ever imagine getting from this is just to get to have conversations with so many people that I grew up looking up to, you know?


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[Assistant] Appreciate that. Yes, indeed, bro. And also, fun tidbit that I learned while getting ready for this interview is that, uh, cause I always had heard that Method Man was the only person who did a song with Tupac and Biggie.


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[Assistant] And then during this, I found out that in fact, Bone Thugs did a song with Tupac, Biggie, and Eazy-E, which is even more of a bizarre accomplishment.


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[Assistant] Crazy. R.I.P. to all of the fallen soldiers. Yes indeed. Both from the older generations as well as everybody who lost over the past couple years. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for coming on.


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[Assistant] Nojumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes. Like, comment, and subscribe. Nojumper.com if you want to support. Shout out to our sponsor, Eagle Energy.


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[Assistant] I understand they had a little trouble with the caterers. Especially when Grandma Horton found out, believe this reach, they had overcooked the


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[Assistant] After that, the groom couldn't decide whether to wear a traditional tuxedo or a clown suit. Hey, if this is a real wedding, I wanna go back to my dream.


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[Assistant] Then there was the fashion surprise of the year, each hat. Everybody was wearing a hat. The groom wore a top hat, the bride wore a floppy floral number, and everyone else wore some kind of hat.


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[Assistant] Oh, Regent was only close friends and family, truly. A simple yet elegant little affair from Cricket's classy white wedding dress right down to Danny's polka dot bow tie.


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[Assistant] Yes, a special thanks to the people that created this show and for Bill Bell's kind words earlier this evening. My mother and father, Ted and Betty Corday, instilled in all of us, uhm, a real heartbeat, a love of family and a love of what that means and it's kept us alive for 26 years and God willing will continue. Thank you all.


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[Assistant] So uhm, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] So uhm, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Seti the First was the father of our friend, Ramses the Great.


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[Assistant] But in father-son rivalry, there's one category where he wins hands down. His mommy.


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[Assistant] Mummification is an incredible process of drying out and embalming the body to preserve it.


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[Assistant] Ready for its journey to immortality in the afterlife.


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[Assistant] Your brain is pulled out through your nostrils with an iron hook.


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[Assistant] Next, all of your major organs are removed apart from the heart. Ancient Egyptians believed this was the centre of your being.


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[Assistant] These organs are then preserved in special jars so they can be reunited with their owner in the afterlife.


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[Assistant] Your body is then covered in a salt called Natron and left to dry for up to 40 days.


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[Assistant] Finally, the now mummified body is wrapped head to foot in hundreds of meters of linen bandages attached with a glue and magical spells are cast to protect the mummy and prepare it for safe arrival in the afterlife.


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[Assistant] Unlocking the secrets behind Seti's youthful good looks is Professor of Radiology, Sahar Salam.


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[Assistant] Egyptians beautified Seti's mummy to make sure it was in the best possible shape to travel to the afterlife. Once there...


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[Assistant] Seti would need a stunning home for all eternity.


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[Assistant] So uhm,


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[Assistant] So uhm,


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[Assistant] So uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, for, for hiring me, I appreciate that too. And uhm, I'd also like to thank the fans, uh, for all their support, they've been great. Uhm, Jim Reilly and the entire writing staff, the directors at Days for all their great work. Uhm, the entire cast and crew, especially the crew who


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[Assistant] Thank you, Digest, fans, cast and crew of Days of Our Lives, and my family.


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[Assistant] Rachel, Ben, Whitney, Alexandra, daddy loves you. And especially my wife, Victoria. My friend, my lover. As long as you think I'm the hottest, that's all that matters to me.


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[Assistant] I like taking pictures at the same, like I have a tattoo on my left side, and if we take pictures like this, I'm always on the right side of the picture.


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[Assistant] We're like so accustomed to taking pictures too, which is like, just stand there and we'll pose around you.


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[Assistant] On Facebook it always just goes crazy viral, but we like having fun, like we respect ourselves as women and like, but we still are confident enough to like have fun with all of our content.


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[Assistant] It like happened by itself. Like we didn't like want it. We would just go out. Like we would, right when we were 18, 17, we started partying and everywhere we go, people would take pictures, ask us to do stuff. Then we started asked, like being asked to be in videos and then it just like went crazy. But we were just having fun and still to this day we just have fun with it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we, we, we, everybody like low key knows us and it's kind of at this stage in acceptance that it's like,


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[Assistant] Everyone knows us and some people fuck with us because they've seen other people fuck with us but other people just like know of us but they aren't sure if like it's okay to fuck with us and like.


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[Assistant] But see, my life was totally, I was totally opposite. I dropped out of high school. I hated everybody. I used to rodeo. Like I had a horse and I would like not do school activities or have friends. I would just go ride my horse. So I feel like that's why like now I'm like, fuck everybody. I'm going to do whatever the heck I want.


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[Assistant] That and reality TV made us like really really like not cold hearted but just we just


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[Assistant] We know what to expect from people. We've heard it all. Like people, they crack so many jokes, but it's like we've literally heard it all. Like everything. I swear we've heard it.


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[Assistant] Especially recently, the past like month or two, Yellow BZ and Blueface have been going very public with their effatuation. But everybody, there's artists have so many, I feel like effatuations with us and curiosities about us.


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[Assistant] I know multiple have legit fetishes to the point, but why would you post different little people on your Instagram constantly?


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[Assistant] Like, if you're like, damn, he's a badass midget. If you're like, ew, that bitch is an ugly little midget.


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[Assistant] But it's like the word bitch. Like, I refer to myself, be like, damn, a bitch mad as fuck right now. But if you're like, damn, you're a stupid bitch.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people that don't know, like genuinely still to this day it's crazy they don't understand or know. And then when you tell them it's like not really respectful they're like oh okay. But it's just like at the end of the day my name's Emily or right cheek. Like you know I don't classify you as a white guy with tattoos.


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[Assistant] We got, but we were very like naive and shy then in the beginning too. Like, we didn't understand the industry then. The industry is very different than I think some people assume. And we kinda got put.


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[Assistant] Like right in with the big dogs versus a lot of artists are like, it takes a while for you get really in there, like where you're in the club with.


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[Assistant] Like mainstream artists seeing everything. So like we kinda got put in that right away. So it's like we kinda saw how everything was. So we learned very quickly about things.


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[Assistant] I made a post the other day that was like, just cause I DM you or ask you to go to the studio or something like that. Like I'm not trying to fuck you. Like I'm trying to work. Like I'm trying to get some features. Like I'm trying to network with people and it's like, it's crazy. The second you DM someone, it's like you're trying to fuck or the second you like support someone, it's like, are you fucking them?


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[Assistant] Like very frequently to the point where I screenshot it. But they don't follow us. So you search our name everyday.


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[Assistant] And they just wait till they see us, like, after you post us, then they may follow us, or like after WorldStar posts us, then they will.


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[Assistant] We've been had that, but we have TV fans from the TV show. We don't have like music fans and like no Jumper fans.


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[Assistant] But it was nice because we were who we were. We were left cheek, right cheek. We had like already I think like 20,000 or 10,000 followers on Instagram, which now it seems like not that much.


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[Assistant] In the beginning we were very naive, like, reality TV, but then as contracts and seasons go on you get much smarter.


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[Assistant] There were things that, like, the network did that were disrespectful, but for the majority of it, the point of the series is to make people, like, more aware of us and respect us. Like, we have kids, it follows, like, our pregnancies and, like, stuff like that. We do normal things, like, duh. There's still people that, like, when we walk by, they, like, run because they're, like, fucking afraid of us.


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[Assistant] Well they edit stuff so they make our music sound like shit. They use like the audio from the mics and not like the recording studio and they like fuck with your shit. And they like make you talk shit about someone else that you're not talking shit about. Really?


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[Assistant] But it's edited so much they're like, they're like, why are you friends with her? But they don't realize it's like.


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[Assistant] When it comes to dudes, like we're just like, we do our own thing, like we don't fuss about that or argue about that. We've been friends for a while, it's just like it is what it is.


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[Assistant] They're like really, really cool. We've known them since the first South by Southwest, the same one we met Treyat, which was like six years ago.


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[Assistant] But we're trying to just like, sometimes it's nice when people hear our music without putting our face to it, because they have no idea that we're little. But if they know we're little before they listen, they're going to automatically judge us. And nowadays I think the industry is really fucked up. It's like if you know it's a certain artist, you're automatically like biased.


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[Assistant] Low key, like kind of if you had like longer, like dark, like red hair.


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[Assistant] But we have a really dope video we need to shoot that's like a real like west coast like vibe and it's real like


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[Assistant] In the beginning, her, like, baby daddy and stuff did music, and then I just wanted to try it. So like, and now recently, we've been, like, doing our own and writing and stuff. But in the beginning, we got help.


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[Assistant] But we have like, influence on all of our stuff and like, now our newer stuff we've been writing.


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[Assistant] And we'd be in the studio all night and stuff and work hard just like every other artist.


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[Assistant] As far as like music wise, Mariah Lynn from Love and Hip Hop New York, we have a feature on her remix she put us on. It's not dropped yet. Uh, it's called like, what is it called? Short, uh, yeah, but it's like Short Dick Man, but we're on that. She really don't.


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[Assistant] So, first of all, like, we're not dumb. We've, again, like, we got introduced in the industry very fast. So we know how sly people are. And again, it comes down to that, like, people fuck with us, but they wait to see if other people accept it before they're okay with it. Because it's like, it's like a, I think it's very weak, but it's okay. If you're not, like, very sure with yourself, like, you don't, you need reassurance from others.


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[Assistant] Whatever. So we were out at Gillies and we vlogged stuff, like right now we got our camera rolling like we nothing to miss nothing. Oops, sorry. We nothing to miss nothing.


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[Assistant] But yea, so we did that and he, then the next day, uh, interview posted on Worldstar and how he was drunk and then Midget was trying to like go home with him. And then they posted that and I'm like, oh no homie. We post our footage that shows him like begging me to go. I post the screenshots of our text messages, all that shit. He was drunk.


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[Assistant] Cause I don't like when people automatically think we're like groupies and like just cause we be in clubs and stuff, like we're not bottle girls, like, like little thoughts and stuff that we drink and like we're artists, like we hear like our music is playing, DJs and stuff, like we know people, like we're not thoughtin' around for artists, like we not finna go home with none of y'all.


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[Assistant] Me, I never knew that was like really, I mean, I grew up in a very like...


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[Assistant] No, like I saw the movie Taken and I didn't know that like, that was real, like in, uh, Amsterdam, like that's a real thing.


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[Assistant] That's weird as shit, like, that's just so fucking weird. Like, if you think about it, like, I understand that you're like, questioning if you have a fetish or not, but like,


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[Assistant] People always assume like, cause like, little like, littler guys.


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[Assistant] But like, if it's little and it doesn't do shit, like, that's really, like, annoying. Like, to me, sex is important in, like, a relationship. So yeah.


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[Assistant] People say that shit about me though, like, that's the thing, like, why can't I be honest? I have a preference. I don't dislike somebody. I don't, like, not like white people. I'm fucking white the fuck. I don't like little people. Like, oh god, I'm not finna fucking a little person.


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[Assistant] Fun. When he was like asking like stuff we can't do like when we were younger we can do it now like we kick ourselves in the head like we man.


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[Assistant] We're not doing it because we want to be the first little people to do it. We do music because we're like two friends that like going out and like it's lit when we can listen to our own music in the car and like it's nice when people are inspired by us and I use air quotes because yeah they're inspired because we're little people doing it but it's still like we're still women that live real life situations.


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[Assistant] Well, you know how dumb I would look if I was just four inches longer? Like then people do they arm. But then your arm is still the same. Bitch you little, you got a big ass head regardless.