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[Assistant] At EM27, a big time homie that always chimes in here, uh, if you had to pick the top five players in this draft, who would they be? So these are just the guys, regardless of value and yea, you don't take a running back high and maybe this team doesn't need this, like, who are your top five NFL players in this draft?


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[Assistant] That's kind of the fear that I've had, is the longer we've talked about this, and maybe it's just that the longer you talk about it, the more you see him, the more you're less impressed by the highlights you've already seen at all, but the more we talk about it, the more I'm like, ah.


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[Assistant] So along those lines, this leads perfectly to JB Tweets tweet.


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[Assistant] I think that's where, you know, you get into that conversation a little bit. But you mentioned Byron Young, a guy that you really like that you don't think is, I mean, he's not going to go in the first round, but it wouldn't shock you if he showed up and did some amazing things. So who are some other players that you think that for whatever reason, injury, they just aren't looked at that way, won't be first rounders, but could be first round talents?


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[Assistant] Quan Martin, Carlos Cruz Safety from Illinois that you mentioned. How about some running backs? Some running back talk.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ted J. Rowland says, what about Jameer Gibbs being taken even earlier at pick 22 for Baltimore? A great offensive weapon alongside OBJ for Lamar Jackson to transition to more of a pocket passer. Good weapons also if Lamar gets injured and they require a backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yep. So those running backs, yeaah, it's tough. They could, they could fall. Quarterbacks don't normally fall. We are seeing CJ Stroud's name falling from what it was three weeks ago, as Jay said, was the number one guy. And now who knows how far he could go down.


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[Assistant] TBKit says, what's the furthest you can see CJ Stroud dropping? Surely he doesn't get by the Titans at 11 or Texans at 12.


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[Assistant] Uh, if they don't go quarterback at two for Houston. So yeaah, you had CJ Stroud going eight in your mock draft to Atlanta. And I think I saw some of the reactions to that like no way he falls that far. But there are some other scenarios out there where he not only falls that far, but maybe even farther. What do you think is the absolute bottom floor for CJ Stroud?


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[Assistant] Listening to the mock draft. Interesting. Oh good. You were interesting on one day. Uh, Richardson, Chris.


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[Assistant] He said he's raw, he needs to play. Wasn't it the same thing with Lance at this time when it was said to sit him? What is the difference? So he's referring to Trey Lance coming out North Dakota State. Really hadn't played


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[Assistant] What is the most ideal spot for Richardson, you think? A place where he will play right away.


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[Assistant] Maybe 10, 15 years ago. Speaking of the Bears, they could be looking at offensive lines, throwing players to protect Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] 15, for sure. You know, now. Waiter Johnston is a name that you've heard sometimes, right? Big, tall, wide receiver seems like might be right up Dayball's alley. It definitely could. He could


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[Assistant] Is there really a defensive tackle to trade up four?


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[Assistant] Mazi Smith, which I feel like you're higher on than maybe the community out there, so as far as a draft up guy, I don't know. Right, yeaah. I, I think uhm. You mentioned Brian Brazee.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have him taking Lucas Van Ness, but they do have different directions that they could go there. Griebsie101 has a question about Van Ness. He goes, could Lucas Van Ness have a similar fall on draft night to George Karlaftus last year? So Karlaftus out of Purdue, where did he end up going?


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[Assistant] That range right there. Do you see them as similar in maybe some of the questions that teams may have about them? You know, Vaness is more power, but he's still got that explosiveness to him.


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[Assistant] Two positions that I think really will be the story in the first round is Edge. There could be six guys that go. Quarterback could be five guys that go. Let's get back to the quarterback talk here. This is Sober Wrestling.


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[Assistant] How much do you think the following year's quarterback class factors into how teams evaluate the draft? Is it implausible to think that Houston will pass on a quarterback


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[Assistant] If there was a team to trade back into the first round for a quarterback, which team do you think it would be? So you've talked about this a couple of times. And the power of drafting a quarterback in the first round is you have the option to secure them for a fifth year. We just saw Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals. Bengals exercised that option. So it does give you some, if this guy is a hit.


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[Assistant] Man oh man, and you get it at the end of the first round at that salary structure, that's a home run. Uh, thought we might see it last year, no one did it last year. Right. And those quarterbacks ended up going like in the third round. Yeah. Uhm, so which team? Raiders are one, for sure.


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[Assistant] Junior Chow 13. What up Junior Chow? And this is a real bummer for me. There are five teams, he says, the Browns, Rams, Dolphins, 49ers, Broncos, without a first round pick this year. I think that just sucks. Cause then it's that whole, that whole fan base. Not like I know, they traded him away, and so what are you supposed to do, but.


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[Assistant] It's like the MLB All-Star game. Every, every team gets a player on the All-Star team. I don't know. It's a bummer. And I realize they did this to themselves, but, uh, do you see any of them making a trade to get back in there? So of those teams, Browns, Rams, Dolphins, 49ers, Broncos, which fan base maybe should have the TV on in the background? 49ers have a lot of picks.


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[Assistant] I mean, what a great time for them. The 49ers, the Broncos, the Browns. I mean, they're just chilling. They're basically just relaxing. They didn't have to worry about any of those top guys. You know, I mean, you're close friends with Kyle. Does he still look at the top guys just to be familiar with them? Definitely. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Definitely. So he'll be ready if, uh, Tyree Wilson falls to round three. I'll be like, hey, I've seen tape on this guy.


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[Assistant] That's worked out for him, even though if the 49ers could go back in time, they would not make that trade for Trey Lance. When do you think about that trade? I was thinking about this the other day. You know, two first round picks, then using a first round pick. So basically you use three first round picks on Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] And if he doesn't play for them, I mean, I don't know, like all time busts, but normally when a guy just is the number one pick in busts, we're like, oh, that was an all time bust. This is not only just a top pick, but it's two additional picks on top of that.


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[Assistant] So we're making all these predictions. You did your first round mock draft. And I want to let you know, it's time for our biggest draft predictions now. Brought to you by Xfinity. The biggest sports moments deserve a connection. You can count on streaming live sports is better with Xfinity 10G Network. Our answer


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[Assistant] Is here, our next sponsor is ourselves. Comcast Xfinity. Boom. We were asking that question on Monday. I like it. Who's gonna be our next sponsor? Yeah. Us. I like it.


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[Assistant] Xfinity, welcome to the club. Welcome to Xfinity, welcome Xfinity, we're glad to have you, it's awesome. So you might not be familiar with Chris though, Xfinity, because that's what Chris does, is just make bold predictions all the time, so we don't even need a special segment for that. Uhm, but if we were to make two bold predictions for tomorrow,


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[Assistant] I'll make mine first. Yeah, I like it. It's about my Detroit Lions, who have two picks in the first round. You got six and you got eighteen. My bold prediction is that at six,


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[Assistant] Quarterback Anthony Richardson will be on the board, and they will select him. Dan Campbell will say, that's my guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, even with Jared Goff, I have faith in Ben Johnson being able to figure out some plays for Anthony Richardson there. So there's my bold prediction.


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[Assistant] No, I won't do that. I won't do that. You will fall out of the top five. He won't be picked number one. Alright, so that's it. Thank you Comcast Xfinity for employing us and sponsoring the pod. And we have done it now.


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[Assistant] We'll have some, not live reactions, but we'll get them out. Live to tape. We'll get them out that night and so in the morning, Friday morning when you're driving to work or just sitting there in bed.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And it will be all together for an audio and video pod, I think too. So it'll be, uh, this is my dream that you hear the pick, Roger Goodell say it, and then it just goes right together. It's like, Oh my gosh. And that's just like 15 of the 31 times. Like what? They're doing that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Have you ever been misled or lied to by people in the NFL? Maybe not your close friends, but people in the community. Well, some would say Kyle Shanahan misled me a few years ago.


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[Assistant] I think I said to me, so it's more of an atta to me boo or something like that. So I butchered it. We're very bad the first time.


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[Assistant] It's what makes you likable, right? Uh, it's what makes you, uh, you. And we also talked about what was more red, orange, or red. The debate rages on.


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[Assistant] I was working the whole weekend. We had the Louisiana Derby. Oh, that's right. On Saturday. I did not watch that, I'm sorry. King's Barnes. Right? Is the name. Is the name.


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[Assistant] But it was like, uh, this kind of like not well known race, but you still get Kentucky Derby qualifying points if you win it. Okay.


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[Assistant] No, I had updates yesterday. You had updates yesterday? Yea, so I was on NBC, in between the Drone Racing League and the Golf. Oh, and the Golf. Okay, I was watching


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[Assistant] Right, maybe I need another tequila. So before we get into your rankings, let's, let's ease into it then. Alright, let's ease. Ease. Ease into it. Alright. Because I like to do this and I've kind of deep dove, or deep dived, or however you want to say it.


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[Assistant] into the consensus rankings over the past few drafts. I want to know how good we are at this whole thing. Do we know what we're talking about? Like, not you specifically, but the whole community of, uh, of prognosticators out there. And so, uh, before we get into the wide receiver rankings, before we get into some of the quarterback pro day video that we'll look at later on, that's a deep tease. Uh, let's look at last year.


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[Assistant] In the draft class. It was a very good draft class. It was a good draft class. It really was. It had everything. Probably one of the best on paper that we'll have for a while, maybe. Drake London was the first taken, then you had Garrett Wilson, number two, Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, because of that injury, went, uh, three to the Detroit Lions. And so, I looked at some of the, um, the consensus there.


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[Assistant] You had Jameson Williams, number one, who went to the Detroit Lions, didn't see him a whole lot when we did see him after he recovered from the ACL. He looks dynamic.


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[Assistant] So the big disparity, really, I mean, you were a little lower on Chris Olave than most, but not much. You had him fifth, and the consensus was fourth, and he was the third taken off the board. Yeah, I missed on the Ohio State kids here. Garrett Wilson, you did not have in your top five. He was consensus number one. He was drafted behind Drake London.


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[Assistant] I do want to give you some props. Okay, thanks. We'll look at one other draft in the past year, 2020, which I think was very, very good for the Chris Sims unbuttoned.


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[Assistant] Uh, podcast and you personally, because I think you, you basically nailed this. Um, Kristen, I don't know if we have the, uh, the graphic for the, the consensus versus Sims versus what actually happened.


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[Assistant] Here was the, the big hit. You had two big hits in this one basically.


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[Assistant] Jury Judy was the consensus number one wide receiver. He went second. You did not have him in your top five.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you were higher on one receiver by the name of Justin Jefferson, who was the fourth best receiver, according to consensus, behind Rugs, Judy, and CD Lam.


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[Assistant] And you had him fourth. He was drafted as the fifth behind Jaylen Rager even in the draft. Uh, you had him as number two. You saw something, which I, uh, I thought even, oh, here it is right now if you're watching on Peacock or YouTube.


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[Assistant] I thought it was interesting too because you watched him play in college with Chase, uh, Jamar Chase. And I remember when you watched them both together, I think even at that time, like when Chase was a year younger obviously, you go, uh, Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver on the field. And so you've been very high on Justin Jefferson for a very long time.


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[Assistant] You had him as number 5 and he was the consensus 6. He was drafted as 7th off the board in 2022. Uhm, so off the radar guys, you were higher on KJ Hamler. Oh, I know. You had him 4th. He was the 11th consensus, drafted as the 10th wide receiver off the board. He's shown some flashes for sure.


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[Assistant] Well, it was a deep class last year, cause yea, thank you for bringing that up. Yea, you had Christian Watson second, he was consensus number eight last year, drafted seventh off the board, I think people saw what you saw in him as explosive game-changing ability. Yea, it's real. And there were a couple other guys, I mean, Sky Moore.


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[Assistant] Was not really in the consensus top 10. He was 9th, I guess. He was drafted 13th off the board.


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[Assistant] Romeo Dobbs with 17th consensus, 19th off the board. So there was some value last year in some of those later round guys. And I think Kristen, we have the, the graphic of the kind of like some of those players and where exactly they went. Cause we saw so many of them in the first couple of rounds.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that just seems like a deep George Pickens in there as well. Alec Pierce, who you liked. Saw some flashes from him, not a whole lot, but uhm.


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[Assistant] But they're just, I mean, there's a lot of guys, which it seems like almost we had, what, six guys in the first round. You could have waited a little while and gotten...


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[Assistant] Alright, so, we're about to get into the conversations about the 2023 draft class. You've kinda mentioned it a little bit so far, what you look for, but let's just crystallize it down into a couple bullet points here. So you're looking at wide receivers, what do you value, what are you looking for the most when you're looking at their college table?


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[Assistant] Alright, so we've talked about tequila, not sleeping, red and orange and hexagons and octagons and all that stuff. All that stuff. Now it is time.


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[Assistant] What a jerk. Yea, seriously. We're not friends anymore. We've got this under control. We do. And as we did with quarterbacks, we're starting from the top. Right.


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[Assistant] And we're going to separate this by tiers again too. So you got, if a couple guys are somewhat similar, we're going to put them in one tier, drop down to another tier. So it gives a little more context to what is in Chris's head. So he's getting his notebook ready. I'm ready. We are going into tier one. We're going to number one. We're starting with the best.


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[Assistant] Very well. She just says she's going home. This is what happens, Kristen, when you're running the ship right here. Kristen, you never know what he's going to say. As she knows, she's got to be the one responsible for what you do say and making sure they're bleeped out.


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[Assistant] Why is Zay Flowers the best wide receiver in the class? And why is he the second coming of Antonio Brown? Antonio Brown is in your notebook.


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[Assistant] We're just, we're just getting them for football for a few years. So we do have a comparison to Jalen Waddle because their height, their weight is very similar, arm length, so we got Jalen Waddle is just his arms a little bit longer, which maybe one of the slight knocks on Zay Flowers is that he doesn't have that


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[Assistant] Catch radius that some of the other wide receivers obviously have that are bigger, but man oh man.


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[Assistant] I did not, I did not realize how close they were and how similar they were. And now this is a type of receiver too. You've got Jalen Waddle, you've got Devonte Smith, you've got, um, Chris Olave. Very similar.


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[Assistant] Watching him on the football field, I'm always a little concerned. I was like, they're small. They're small dudes. There's a lot of big dudes who run fast and hit hard, but this is becoming


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[Assistant] I think we have some evidence of that as well. He has apparently put on 13 pounds of muscle. He did this for the Combine, so if you're watching, he was 170 on the left there, and on the right, look at that! And he's much happier too! And he's wearing no shoes! So much has changed about him in that photo on the right.


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[Assistant] He grew up in Fort Lauderdale. Was not a highly recruited guy. Three star recruit. Went to NSU University school.


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[Assistant] Who's notable alumni include Jet's legend Mike White. Right. Uh, then went four years at, uh, at BC. But yes, set records while he was there. And, uh, that is a, a power five conference. Uh, we do have some video of him at his pro day. And I don't know if you saw this. I'm loving this. Alright, so here he is running.


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[Assistant] Alright, so here's a, here's a con. A weakness perhaps. Sure. Something that's being pointed out by people who are not as high on Zay Flowers. Let's hear it. Drops. Were an issue for him at times.


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[Assistant] So I'm saying if you're a team in the middle of the first round, like I don't know if there's any wide receiver needy teams here, like who are you, who are you looking at where he could go off the border if they're on the clock? You're like, oh, this could be Zay Flowers if they like him as much as you do.


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[Assistant] He shares this with Ze Flowers from Boston College. Your number two wide receiver in the 2023 NFL draft class is Jackson Smith and Jigba.


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[Assistant] I mean, you would hope that if he was available to play and able to play, because they were in the...


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[Assistant] You know, they're playing Georgia there and they're playing on New Year's Eve. You'd hope that he would want to play in those games, but at the same time, knowing he's one of the top prospects in the, uh, NFL and the wide receiver class here too. But the year he did play was amazing and he did it in high school too. He was a five star recruit.


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[Assistant] And the one year that he did play, he was awesome. And he was on the team with, with Olavi and Wilson and he out produced both of those guys and he had 300 and something yards in the Rose Bowl game. So it's like that one year was basically, it was, it didn't like come out of nowhere. It was like, yeah, this guy's a stud, he's a five star recruit and we saw it on the field, but it was just one year.


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[Assistant] We have his numbers too, Kristen, if you want to throw those up on that year that they all did play together, uh, with Wilson and Olave. And yeah, it was 1600 yards for Smith and Jigba and it was over a thousand for Wilson and it was almost a thousand for Chris Olave.


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[Assistant] And that's gonna be necessary in the NFL. He's a bigger dude, 261, 196. Maybe you don't need to stand up because we do have video of his pro day as well. So maybe this will show what you're talking about with Jackson Smith in Jigba at his pro day at Ohio State. He's got a lower cut waist, right?


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[Assistant] Sausaini says do you take someone like JSN in the first round if he doesn't have elite speed? And to add that hamstring injury from last year. Is he a first round guy? Like if you're end of the first round and you're a team.


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[Assistant] But, you know, that makes sense. It's almost like a pass fail. If you're a team that you're convinced that the medical issue is not an issue, he could be maybe a top 10 guy.


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[Assistant] Tier 1 is closed. We open up the door to Tier 2. Hello, Tier 2. Your number 3 wide receiver in the 2023 draft class is? Quentin Johnson. TCU. That's right.


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[Assistant] So, and he seems like a perfect target in the red zone. 6'3", 208 pounds, big dude. I'm reading this on NFL.com. It says he grabbed just 6 of Max Duggan's 32 touchdown passes though in 2022.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a dual threat, you know, cause he has the speed two to separate once he gets open. I saw it in the Michigan game firsthand where it's just like he caught a little hook and then boom, he was gone. No one was catching him.


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[Assistant] PFF says he's one of the most physically impressive wide receivers in memory.


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[Assistant] 19 yards per catch at TCU. So once he got it and either if it was a deep ball or making the run after the catch, he was able to do both of those things. I think we have the measurables here for Quinton Johnson. Kristen, if you can pull that up, we've got the, what is it? The octagon, right? This is a true octagon. I think you're right.


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[Assistant] Oh no! What is that? It's a new gun. I don't know. Damn. Septagon? Kristen, do you know? Is it a septagon? I think you're right. I think it's a septagon. I think you're right. I don't know where that came from. I don't know. That was deep in your schooling. Is it a hektagon? Is it eight sides?


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[Assistant] Oh, haptagon, haptagon, haps. But it should be septagon. Why would they change it?


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[Assistant] Uh, but we do see that he has filled up basically whatever type of gun that is. He's filled it up with, with red because his measurables are off the chart. Wingspan 96 percentile. That's pretty crazy. And arm length. So he does have that catch radius. Yes, he does. Uh, but scarecrow boat has a concern. Okay.


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[Assistant] He goes, do you worry that Quentin Johnson could be the second coming of Kevin White?


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[Assistant] You're gonna see his name in the top three of a lot of lists out there. You'll see Jackson Smith and Jigba. You'll see Zay Flower. So that's not super unconventional so far.


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[Assistant] Here we go, we're going sims, we're going on button style here. Also in tier two, so in the same tier with Quinton Johnson, is your number four wide receiver in the 2023 draft class. And that wide receiver is?


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[Assistant] But they're just, you watch their highlights and you're like, man, that guy looks different. Yes. Right? And I saw that with Jackson Smith and Jigba with some of the things you saw. Right.


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[Assistant] Was a four star recruit out of high school in LA when he was healthy in 2019, he led Stanford in receiving.


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[Assistant] And he did shine at the senior bowl. And so that is perhaps helping him as he moves into the draft here. But same questions that we had with, uh, Jackson Smith and Jigba. A team's gotta feel comfortable with the medical on this guy. He's a first round receiver.


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[Assistant] Well, let me give you something to help back you up on that too, cause Pete's put it here in the rundown, or Kristen or Courtney. I don't know who to give this credit to at this point, but, uh, it does show up that we do have a 10 yard split for him, even though he ran the 4-5-8.


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[Assistant] He ran the 1-5 split. 1-5, 10 yard split, so that's in the 87th percentile, so right off the line of scrimmage. Exactly.


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[Assistant] I think this is interesting too on NFL.com they said that he plays to his top end speed at all times. So kind of like you see on film where there might be a player who is a 4-4-40 but is not playing 4-4. No. Where Michael is playing at 4-5 basically the whole game.


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[Assistant] Just started one game because of leg injuries there, but played last year and boy did he ever against Alabama. What might've been the game of the year in college football. I feel like we were all watching that and all watching the goalposts go into the river or wherever they ended up there in Knoxville. And I think we have a photo Kristen of, uh,


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[Assistant] That day for him because he had a career high, 207 receiving yards, five touchdowns in the upset of Alabama. It's crazy. And then after the game, he shared a cigar with the one and only Kate Manning.


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[Assistant] I know, he's like, what, someone's smoking a cigar, I'll fly there immediately. Uh, no, Peyton Manning in the locker room with Jalen.


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[Assistant] No, that was good. I just learned about that the next time I have a cigar. I've only done it a couple times in my life. You know me. I only have energy drinks, but just don't inhale. For all the homies out there, don't inhale. Uh, Fred Balitnikov, award winner as we transition back to Jalen Hyatt. Sorry. Uh, this past year. Um, yeah, so the production met the, what we saw on film there too, which is, which is good to see. And, and you figure,


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[Assistant] Is it a concern that Jalen Hyatt has barely had any career snaps versus press coverage? I get that offenses have evolved and there's different ways of utilizing players but Hyatt is getting first round hype and first round ride receivers should be able to beat press especially on third and fourth downs.


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[Assistant] 87% of his routes from the slot last season had just one catch versus press.


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[Assistant] The Heptagon? We'll end with the Heptagon with him because yeaah, 6 foot, 176 and wow, what a strange looking Heptagon. Right? I've never seen one like this before. Broad jump, awesome. Vertical jump, awesome.


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[Assistant] 40 yard dash, really good. 10 yard split, really good. But then you have them in the 5th percentile in weight. Yea, just 176. Wingspans, average arm length, average height, uh, 35th percentile. Yea, hand size is small. Hand size is small too, so yea, that's very odd.


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[Assistant] This one's a nine-sided one, Kristen has just pointed out. Wow. I don't know why some guys get more, more guns than other guys, right? What's the deal with that?


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[Assistant] Anonagon is also called an enagon. We've learned more about gons in this pod over the last week than probably any other football pod in the history of football. I would hope so.


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[Assistant] Zae Flowers, JSN in tier one. You got tier two of Quinton Johnston and Michael Wilson, and then Jalen Hyatt in tier three.


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[Assistant] The big question from a lot of people out there will probably be that USC receiver, Jordan Addison. Why is he not represented on that graphic?


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[Assistant] Kenny Tose wants to throw one guy at ya. Little off the radar here, but Jonathan Mingo kind of fits the AJ Brown mold. Ole Miss wide receiver. He goes surprise he's not getting more love. I feel like if he played at Alabama, he'd be talked about more.


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[Assistant] Yo Sims, what happened to Kaishan Butte? Seemed like he was primed to be a top 10 pick after his freshman year and now it seems like he might not even be taking the first two rounds. Didn't help that he ran a 4-5-40. Is the talent legit or was the hype always overblown?


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[Assistant] I liked my final, final one. I like it. I thought I was going to be able to talk about Michael, um, Smith.


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[Assistant] Just looking at the highlight plays, which is not a holistic view, like, uh, looking at every single one of his plays. Uh, we were going to talk about the quarterbacks of Pro Day, but we have something else we want to talk about. Breaking news before we get to that. I do want to just tell you though that the MLB.


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[Assistant] We'll hit on the pro days Wednesday. But we have breaking news.


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[Assistant] So it happened during the taping of this pod. You've probably already seen it listening to this out there right now, but Chris and I are seeing this for the first time.


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson has requested a trade. Apparently it happened a while ago. So let me just read this tweet for both of us here, Chris. A letter to my fans. I want to...


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[Assistant] First, thank you all for all the love and support that you have consistently showed towards me. All of you are amazing. I appreciate you all so much. I want you to all to know not to believe everything you read about me. Let me personally answer your questions in regards to my future plans. As of March 2nd, I requested a trade.


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[Assistant] From the Ravens organization for which the Ravens have not been interested in meeting my value and everyone that has met me or been around me knows that I love the game of football and my dream is to help a team win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] You all are great, but I had to make a business decision that was best for my family and I. No matter how far I go or where my career takes me, I'll continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore's flock nation and the entire state of Maryland. You will see me again.


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[Assistant] So that was Lamar Jackson. Whoa. I mean, just first of all, like what, so I guess he requested a trade March 2nd. Right. And nothing has happened and he's now going public with these demands. What's your reaction to that?


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[Assistant] You know who maybe could answer some of these questions? The head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, John Harbaugh was meeting with the media in Phoenix at the owner's meetings when Lamar sent out the tweets. How convenient. And so here's what Coach Harbaugh had to say.


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[Assistant] And it's, and there are questions on every player, right? And Lamar Jackson does have obvious questions on him too, right? It's not just about like a principled stance on not giving away a guaranteed contract. It is like, all right, if we're going to do that, you got to be as sure as you have been about any player.


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[Assistant] Because you don't want to cripple what you can do around him. He's great, yeaah. He's been great, but-


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[Assistant] It's the weirdest thing where everything would surprise me and nothing would surprise me. Like if he goes back to the Ravens, I would not be surprised. No, not at all either. If he gets traded to another team, I would not be surprised.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's going to be resolved anytime soon. It might be one of those things where it's after the draft, where this is, cause I don't think a player, a team really is dying to give up two first round picks either.


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[Assistant] A developing story that will continue to develop and you will talk about for sure with Mike Florio tomorrow morning on Peacock.


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[Assistant] That is it. We have finished this one. Wide receiver rankings are done. And now we move on to corners.


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[Assistant] Every driver's out there and waiters are crying for us right now. Just keep going. Keep going. Uh, no.


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[Assistant] It was, so here's the note that I clipped off on, uh, this super wild card weekend. Right. Because I was like, at this point, it's becoming cliche to be like, oh, what a crazy weekend of football. Cause we've said, I've used the word crazy 7,000 times on this podcast and I will use it many more times today. Sam Hoppin out on Twitter. I saw this tweet. I don't know who that is, but he had a good tweet. The weekend of football featured, quote,


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[Assistant] The third larga- largest comeback in playoff history. Both games with a double-digit spread within three points at halftime. A six seed upset, uh, uh, three seed. And four of the five games ending as one score games. Just an incredible start to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] We talked about it all year, how winning one score games, which they did most of the year, helps you get into the playoffs. It does. I mean, it's a hundred percent. That's why they got to the playoffs. I don't know that it helps you in the playoffs. And we saw for the first time all year, the Vikings lost a one score game in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] So I want to read the stat here for the Giants, or for the Vikings, because it wasn't like they played poorly. No. It's just like their defense is not good enough. Exactly right. So this came from Optistats. It says the Vikings are the only team in the Super Bowl era to complete at least 80% of their passes with no turnovers, no sacks.


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[Assistant] Still lose, regular season or post season. NFL teams had been 47-0 when doing that. They really played


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[Assistant] So here, when you watch it on film, take, take this into note, maybe you can explain what this is, uh, next gen stats goes, the Giants use of split safety coverage in two games against the Vikings has been a major tendency breaker compared to every other opponent this season. So versus Minnesota, 64% versus all others, 30%. So what is that exactly?


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[Assistant] And the Giants first playoff win since 2011, this is from NextGen. Right. Uh, he has generated 29 pressures, aligned as a zero-tech this season that is 21 more than any other player.


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[Assistant] So five of his pressures, five of his eight pressures were as the zero tech.


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[Assistant] Fourth and eight, so let's take a look at it. He threw it, you know, three yards downfield to, to TJ Hawkinson, my Detroit line, who played pretty well for that. I think that's a trade that worked out for both teams here. So here's the, here are the dots. What, what should he have done?


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[Assistant] But I'm glad you described it like that, because I think a lot of people see that and one of the first analysis that they want to make is like what an idiot Kurt Cousins is. But it's really because Dexter Lawrence, like we talked about, it's really more of a positive play for the Giants than it is a negative play for the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Again, yea, to have, to have one of the worst, if not the worst defense in football. Yes. Speaks to the quality of the offense. Exactly.


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[Assistant] We'll talk about that a little bit more, because John Hussein Kennedy writes in, Damn, Dayball is amazing. He's unlocking Daniel Jones the same way he did with Josh Allen. Josh is better, but Jones is definitely more than good. So how much credit do you give Dayball? A ton.


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[Assistant] Like that guy's not fast. No, he is pretty fast. And yeah, in his, in his, uh, top receiver in this game was Isaiah Hodgins, who started the year with Buffalo. Former six round pick in 2020 out of Oregon State. I kind of had to look all that stuff up, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, the weapons, I mean, although I will say Saquon Barkley, and I don't like to say like someone wanted it more, because they all want it, they're all professionals, and they all are trying hard, and they're at the top of their craft, but it did seem like Saquon Barkley had a little bit more oomph, you know, carrying defensive linemen into the end zone.


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[Assistant] Finishing the runs, as Pete says in my ear. Yea, it did seem like he really enjoyed playing in this game.


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[Assistant] Took some chances that, uh, game winning drive. They went for fourth and one at the seven where Chris was furious until they got it and then he was like, okay, good call.


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[Assistant] We will do the Requiem for the Vikings a little bit later on. Now it is time for Give Me the Headlines presented by Hyundai. And this one was the craziest game of a crazy super wild card weekend. The Jaguars come back from 27 down.


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[Assistant] It was all their social media tweet. It was all the receipts they had. All those receipts. People say they're done, chargers are not very good.


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[Assistant] I think this as the, as it was developing, I go, the best time to fall down by 27 points is the first quarter. The second best time is the second quarter. So if you are going to fall down big, you, you want to do that early as opposed to Seattle, who did it late and in their, their game. So the Jaguars did have some time, although it appeared like.


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[Assistant] It didn't matter because they were not going to have answers for this Chargers defense that you think came out with a pretty good game plan against the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Uh, you met with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. A couple, like, what was it? A day before the game? Thursday. Thursday. Two days before. Two days before the game. Yeah, right. Uhm. The gift and the curse. Yeah, right. Were you feeling like, oh, this is gonna come back on me? Everybody. I high-fived him.


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[Assistant] What struck you about meeting him, though, that maybe you didn't think previously?


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[Assistant] Like we learned something watching this game, like he didn't get down after those four interceptions. Was there anything in the interview where you're like, okay, this is interesting?


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[Assistant] So, those four touchdowns, one of them, I think the, the one, the deep one. The Zay Jones. The Zay Jones 39er. That was when we were like, okay. That's when you started to believe, right? That was when you went, they might be able to come back.


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[Assistant] Cause they're down 10 at the end of the third quarter where I think it was hard to get out of your mind that they were at one time down 27 because any team down 10 entering the fourth quarter, you would never think like, oh, they're out of it. You'd be like, oh, they're, they're within two scores. They're definitely in this game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, was there anything specifically, I know you looked at that play a little bit. You mentioned the adjustments that Doug Peterson may have made. Was there anything specific about that play?


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[Assistant] You need some time to be able to throw deep. And the offensive line for the Jaguars doing a good job there. Kaleo Mack was out there. Joey Bosa was out there. Walker Little, I think Pete sent us a group text on


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[Assistant] A tweet that showed how he handled that last drive. So good job by the offensive line there. I got a tweet that you're going to like here. It comes from MrJet2010. He goes, wonder if Trevor was on the Jets if he would have been pulled at the half. Good job by Peterson to stick with his young quarterback.


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[Assistant] So Pete counted the plays. Yeah. Once it was 27-0. Right. Chargers called 25 pass plays, 8 run plays.


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[Assistant] And you mentioned Doug Peterson there too. He's so easy to root for, I think. It's just like seeing him and I'm a guy who likes to take chances. I'm more on the let's be aggressive approach. And he did that with 530 to go. He goes for two to make it a two point game, which I loved because I think the idea of


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[Assistant] You know, I've, I've been saying this for a little bit now. It's just like the idea of playing for overtime is like playing to lose half the time. Like you're, you're, you're not going to, I think there was this thought kind of like, oh, you've extended the game. It's like, well, you've also extended the time the other team can win too.


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[Assistant] If you have a play that you like that you think is gonna work more than 50% of the time, you should try to go for it. So they did and they got the two. They still needed to get the fourth and one. Right. Big time call there. They called timeout. I guess Trevor Lawrence says that Doug Peterson, they had a play, didn't like what he saw.


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[Assistant] All good for the Jacksonville Jaguars, except for the foreign receptions and falling down 27-0, whatever, yadda yadda yadda. Uh, but the last thing we'll say about this game is, uh,


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[Assistant] Is the Chargers here. I mean, it's the first time we've ever seen an NFL playoff history, a team that was minus five in the turnover margin win a game. That's incredible. It's incredible. Minus five. They lost it by five. Uh, we got a couple of tweets, young and wise 83. Hey Chris, do you think Staley gets fired? And Bob Gorman says Staley has to go.


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[Assistant] Herbert's career is being wasted. You need to only look at, uh, Tua and Trevor's vast improvement in one year with a great offensive minded quarterback coach. Herbert needs his McDaniel or Peterson to save his career.


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[Assistant] What's your thought? Like, what's your gut? I-I don't know. I think it would have to do all with the relationship that he has with the ownership there. Yeaah. I know. I think if it's a good relationship and they believe in him, there's no reason to not give him one more year.


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[Assistant] He doesn't, he doesn't strike me as like a, I don't know, he doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence when you just see him walking on the sideline, but that's just looks, I have no idea.


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[Assistant] You don't look at him and go, he's definitely got things under control. There's a little element of like, alright, things might be falling apart, but I don't know.


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[Assistant] Well maybe he should because they were my Super Bowl pick and he's embarrassed me now. He's embarrassed me. They have been eliminated. I will not be right on the Super Bowl winner this year. And that is give me the headlines presented by Hyundai. And now we move on.


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[Assistant] To the Buffalo Bills and the Miami Dolphins. This game I thought could be a blowout. And it looked like maybe it was going to be a blowout.


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[Assistant] Buffalo jumped out to a 17-0 lead, after a missed fourth down, then they went touchdown, touchdown, field goal, but then became very difficult for them. Interception, three and out, interception, field goal, fumble, return for a touchdown, six and out, three and out.


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[Assistant] Very strange for the Bills. I kind of want to start there. And Pete's same idea here. He goes, how do you feel about the Bills after this win? Better? Worse? Because there are some things like, good, obviously. Like that's why they're in the position they are. A lot of turnovers. They're frustrating.


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[Assistant] I mean, like, there's no team in the NFL that just is blowing everyone out. Like, even the Eagles have come back to Earth here, so it's really, I mean, it's like, there's no one that's in that category right now, but it does seem, I don't know, at least for me, like, they're just always on the edge, and one of these games is just, you know, you're gonna make that mistake and not gonna have the second chance.


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[Assistant] He's the good. He's the second quarterback ever with 300 or more passing yards and three or more touchdown passes in three straight playoff games.


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[Assistant] Uh, Matt Ryan was the other one to do that, but we got a question here from New Music Friday 3. Why were the Bills throwing so many deep and or 50-50 balls? I think we have the passing chart for Josh Allen, like when a quarterback airs it out, especially Josh Allen, hit a couple of those. Do you think there were too many of that variety?


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[Assistant] But yea, none of the offensive numbers look great for Miami. Their leading rusher was Jeff Wilson with 10 carries, 23 yards. Skyler Thompson threw 45 passes, completed 40% of them. So really, it was like the defense.


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[Assistant] Buffalo goes into that game having won 8 straights since their loss to the Vikings. So what do you make of Mike McDaniel? Dolphins, final bid on them. Because, I mean, they were in this game 3 point loss to the Bills with Skyler Thompson as their quarterback throwing 40%. So they made some plays, right? Special teams, defense.


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[Assistant] That's good. The bad is there were some penalties. Delayed game, obviously. Yea, that was an issue all game.


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[Assistant] They were up 24-20, midway through the third quarter, third and 18 from their own eight. Tony Romo on the broadcast, give him credit, says, you gotta watch out here. You don't want to turn the ball over. And then right then they turn the ball over interception and Romo goes, that was as much on the coach as the quarterback.


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[Assistant] I mean, the ensuing drive, Alan, tough run for first down ends with a Cole Beasley touchdown, but back on top.


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[Assistant] It's always easy for us at home. I feel like we're experts as television viewers at time management. That's what, like we're not taxed with calling the play, informing, communicating it. It's like we're just looking at time. So I think we are at home. I think we're better than most NFL teams at time management because that's all we have to think about. We don't have to think about any of that stuff.


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[Assistant] This is a good way to get into our next game too, cause the Bengals beat a backup quarterback. Maybe it was closer than a lot of people thought. Yeah. Beat the Ravens, which was a good game on NBC. I was glad to see that. It was a really good game. I thought this could be a blowout. And I was like, that's not good for us. We don't want blowouts on NBC. We want close games, go down to the wire and for several million people to watch it and help pay the paycheck of Chris Sims. Oh, Ryan Chuzlewit.


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[Assistant] Says to us, which AFC contender, which barely made it past a backup quarterback in the wildcard round, are you more concerned about, the Bills or the Bengals?


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[Assistant] Tyler Huntley, although I think Tyler Huntley has some skills. He does.


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[Assistant] Uh, it does have a good clock. Like he knows, like it's so far-


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[Assistant] It's fun watching Joe Burrow, because there are times, like, I don't know that Joe Burrow makes a bad pass. It's like, sometimes they're like, ooh, that was off target, and they show the replay, and it's like, oh, he kinda had to throw it there. He had to throw it, like, over the fingertips of a jumping linebacker, or he was just trying to throw it away because nothing was there. Exactly.


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[Assistant] So it's like if any quarterback out there who isn't as mobile as like a Lamar or a Kyler or something like that can handle it. It feels like Joe Burrow can handle it. It just makes things very, very difficult.


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[Assistant] 155 rushing yards total for the Ravens. They did. But you're right, it's so unique. Is there another team in the playoffs like them?


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[Assistant] I'm in a 14 point swing when the game is tied. Exactly. No, you're not up 7, you're down 7. John Harbaugh talked about it after the game. And he mentioned how it was just poorly, he said it was poorly executed by Tyler Huntley. The idea was to go low and get pushed in, not to go high. Collinsworth explained it just right. He nailed it in the moment.


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[Assistant] It was unbelievable. They asked Joe Burrow about that after the game. They go, what was going through your mind as Hubbard was taking it off the other way? He goes run faster, Sam. That's what Joe Burrow


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[Assistant] You think it was a block in the back? It was close. It was close. It was such a good highlight though, you know me. I'm always like, if the highlight's that good, don't call it. Don't call it. Don't ruin a great highlight play. And it was, it was a playoff record, 98 yard fumble return for a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Per next gen stats, the Bengals win probability, you saw this on the broadcast, went from 46% all the way to 88% after that play, which seems kind of high, right? It was still a touchdown game, but whatever. I guess they hadn't seen Tyler Huntley do the good things he had done in that game. Hey Pete, what is this? Zach Taylor delivers the game ball to bar blind pig? What was that all about? Oh, uh, we got something


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[Assistant] It intrigued me in the rundown here. So after the game, after every playoff win,


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[Assistant] I'm getting this explained to me in my ear in real time right here. Oh, here it is. Bengals coach Zach Taylor, tradition of delivering the game ball around Cincinnati. Oh, he's at the blind pig here, which is right across the street from the team's facility and stadium. All right, Chris. So he might have, you know, a simple offensive game plan, but look at this man. He's behind a DJ.


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[Assistant] DJ booth, he grabbed the microphone, he's delivering the game ball to the people there.


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[Assistant] Robert Babcock talks about that final drive for the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett and a few other coaches have been strongly criticized for their time management. So what do you have to say about John Harbaugh's incineration of the clock on the Ravens final drive? We mentioned this before, I mean time management, right?


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[Assistant] Like, and Hardbot talked about it after the game. I think clearly it probably was a mistake, but you can get the thought process too. I mean, 30 seconds at that point when there's a minute, now you all of a sudden have 30 seconds. That was the worst part, right? Should have called a timeout.


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[Assistant] Last thing and we'll talk about this all off season until it's resolved. I guess Lamar did not even travel with the team. I don't know how rare that is. There are a lot of teams that do that. They don't take


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[Assistant] Well, you know what? Maybe you don't need a franchise quarterback because maybe any old quarterback will do. If you're the San Francisco 49ers, that is the case. Our final game to talk about, uh, that happens already. We've got the Monday game to talk about, of course, but the 49ers beat the Seahawks 41-23. Not maybe as easy as the score indicates. The Seahawks were up by one.


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[Assistant] At the half, but then in the second half, here's what the 49ers did. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, victory formation, 25 straight in the second half. It's just a, it's just as, as we've said since the beginning of the season, it's only a matter of time before Brock Purdy and the 49ers offense gets going.


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[Assistant] Yeah, after that, they went, cause these are all the second half possessions for Seattle. They go fumble, strip sack in the red zone, punt, interception, garbage time touchdown. So that was it. Not a whole lot of possessions, right? 49ers able to eat the clock, which is what they can do. That's their formula.


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[Assistant] So Purdy is the first rookie quarterback to win a playoff game since Russell Wilson in January of 2013. Seahawks fans love to hear that stat. Chow Jr.


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[Assistant] Says what you just mentioned. Purdy threw 10 times over 20 yards in the game. Was that by design? Did he make the right read? So we have the passing chart for Brock Purdy, but yeah, definitely stretching the field. Something they have done more with Brock Purdy than we have seen them do with really any quarterback.


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[Assistant] Vish Kumaran, our guy Vish. What up, Vish? Tweets us as has Brock Purdy done enough to be the starter for the 49ers next year? Is what he's doing a byproduct of the environment or do you think there's...


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[Assistant] A sustenance to this insanely efficient offense with him.


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[Assistant] Under center. I think it is interesting. You hear some people talk and they go, if rock pretty makes it to the super bowl with the 49ers, the job is his next year. And I'm like, well, we say that. And then, you know, it makes one bad pass like Jimmy Garoppolo overshooting a receiver and you're like, oh, he's not the guy. He didn't make it in the big moment. So I think we got to, it's always in question, but like, it's crazy to say last pick of the NFL draft.


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[Assistant] I clearly like something in him to draft him, even though it was a late round draft pick, you can just get some guys in free agent.


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[Assistant] It's, I mean, give a lot of credit to Shanahan Yes and Brock Purdy, but Christian McCaffrey is elite and he was again. Get him in the open field. He had 119 yards rushing.


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[Assistant] Had some, uh, in the past game too. And then they got Debo back and he seems probably as healthy as he's been. That 74 yard touchdown next gen, uh, next gen stat said, uh, Debo reached the top speed at 20.3 miles per hour. The fastest he has been as a ball carrier all season long.


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[Assistant] Would not be surprised if it was Chiefs 49ers in the Super Bowl once again. That almost seems likely at this point. Final word on the Seahawks. Where do they go from here? Genos back at quarterback probably. Definitely. Gotta be. Gotta be. Just improve the defense.


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[Assistant] Lions, they have a top pick. Lions picks six, Seattle picks five. Right?


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[Assistant] That's pretty good. If the Lions, exactly, like, like, no, like, the Lions are Seahawks here, Pete, because if the Lions had made it, they would have played the 49ers, probably gotten blown out the same 41-23. Like, who feels better? The Lions or the Seahawks?


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[Assistant] We can say that. No one can prove us otherwise. Uh, but we will. So Kristen, do we have the music to say goodbye to the five teams so far?


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[Assistant] Uh, that lost in the first round of the playoffs. We'll start with the Seattle Seahawks.


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[Assistant] It's a season that brought unexpected success despite ending in a bit of a mess. They started to lose their flow when Chris changed a name from Gino to the ill-advised nickname of G. Yes. That's when it started to go downhill a little bit for them.


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[Assistant] Don't high five Justin Herbert, because I like him. They're my Super Bowl pick this year. They might be next year too, depending on what happens in the off season. Uh, Chargers now.


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[Assistant] It's a team that everyone likes to clown. To charger means blowing every lead around. Yes, Staley longs for the time way back in his prime when his biggest problem was effing up, forth, down. Those were the easy times. Those were the days. That was all I had to worry about.


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[Assistant] John Harbaugh, goodbye, going into the offseason with his timeout in his back pocket. It's a team that used to be atop the throne.


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[Assistant] I was not, but there's a lot of them in the NFL, for sure. Miami Dolphins, maybe Tua's one of those guys. Although I don't think so. I think Tua would be a guy that would clean up his voicemail so you could leave a proper message.


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[Assistant] Uh, good news, it took a week longer to be dismissed, and Mike McDaniel gave the offense a twist.


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[Assistant] But now that their season's completed, Dolphins fans about to get heated when they have no one in Chris Simms top 40 quarterback list. It's about to get bad. You're on fire today. It's about to get bad again, yeaah. 2 and 9 will be back. Nah, 2 will make the list. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Don't know how high, but final team, the Minnesota Vikings. Oh no.


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[Assistant] The 13 win Minnesota Vikings. Their season went up in flames. I'd understand their fans calling them names. But they don't need to ball, because above all, they were almost undefeated in one score games. I mean, so close!


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[Assistant] And I had one written mid-game on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Any other stop? We'll save it. Maybe we'll never use it. Who knows? Maybe not.


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[Assistant] Alright. That's it. That's it. That's it. Oh, we did Ravens. Yea, we did Ravens. Yea, Pete. Come on, Pete. Listen to the show. That was the whole phone thing. Freaking A, Pete. I know.


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[Assistant] The number five seeded Cowboys at the number four seeded losing record. Buccaneers. Dallas only favored by two and a half over under a 45 and a half. You have picked the Cowboys to go into Tampa, upset Tom Brady, 24 to 20. Give me your reasoning.


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[Assistant] Dallas is better than Tampa, first off. But. Didn't look like it at the end of the regular season.


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[Assistant] This'll be our first thing we talk about on Wednesday, and it'll be fascinating for the loser of this game, right? If Tampa loses, like Brady, what does he do? Da da da. If Dallas loses first round exit, it's like, okay, Sean Payton's in the mix there, you'd have to think. Uh, so whoever loses this game will be a top story.


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[Assistant] And Jerry, we've learned this, he's a very loyal guy. He is. I feel like he's one of the guys where it's just like he sticks by Zeke, he's stuck by Jason Garrett for a long time when people called for


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[Assistant] Him to, to make a move. And Mike McCarthy, I feel like everyone's like, come on Jerry B, like everyone else here. It's kind of strange. It's where everyone's like, what? No, no, have patience. How do you fire a guy after one year? Like Jerry's the opposite of that. He is. Yeah. Maybe to his detrimental ways, maybe to his detrimental.


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[Assistant] Wow, what's up? Chris Sins on Button. I don't even feel comfortable being the host of the show anymore. It should be you. That did kinda sound like...


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[Assistant] It actually, on hearing it back, you sounded more Hollywood movie, whatever the hell they call that position in life. What is that even called? The voiceover guy. Okay, voiceover guy. Hey, what's your job? I'm a voiceover guy. You really did sound like it there. So in lieu of that,


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[Assistant] Open up the podcast right now, okay? In that voice. In a word.


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[Assistant] But I feel like it's good because you've shown up here like for the last two weeks going, uh, my family's passing around some bugs. So I'm like, we're all in the family together here.


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[Assistant] Well, definitely, exactly right. I mean, listen, to be more of a fan, I stopped brushing my teeth in the morning. I don't even put deodorant on anymore, just to be like you. Yea, have you gone full bidet? Have you done that yet? No, I have not gone full bidet. You're missing it. I am still brushing my teeth in the morning, just so you know that. But we did find out that Floreo doesn't brush his teeth in the morning, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, you don't do it at night. Yeah, I don't do it at night. I don't know which one's worse. Actually, I think his is, I don't know, yours might be worse.


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[Assistant] Seven. Okay. I mean, I thought realistically retirement could happen here. I actually thought about it less over the last month. I mean, I think I even said last week, I was like,


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[Assistant] Six weeks ago I would have told you he was retiring for sure, right?


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[Assistant] And then I get to the end of the season and I was like, I don't know, it's starting to seem like maybe he will find one more destination or one more spot to play.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I didn't know what to expect there. I think that's the first thing. And then I think what the most shocking part of it is just how it was done.


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[Assistant] You know, just out of nowhere, Wednesday morning, I'm gonna be on the beach and I'm gonna film myself and make a video. Which I do think is cool too. I'm gonna give him credit for that. Like not having a whole big press conference. I do think Brady at no point wanted this to be a big thing to overtake a season or anything like that, right? So uhm, that's where I guess I was shocked.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I know, I've said this on the pod and to you before, I know some people in the Brady orbit. 45 was always the magic number.


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[Assistant] That's kinda why at the end of last year, I was like, I kinda changed my tune at the end of last year, or I was like, I dunno, some people are telling me, hey, he said 45, the guy always does what he says, right?


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[Assistant] And so, uh, that's where I thought maybe it would happen, but you were hearing rumors about maybe he was looking for another team. The way it went down at the end of last year with the retirement quotation marks when he was actually trying to go to the Miami Dolphins. I didn't know what to expect with Brady, you know, this off season. So, um, it's crazy. It's crazy. And go ahead. What?


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[Assistant] What are you gonna say? Well, I was gonna just say, it's like, I do, just being a football guy that talks and we talk and do this all the time, I was like a little bit like, you know,


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[Assistant] What, what, what happened, right? The, the, the teams that maybe that he was looking at say, nah, no thanks. We don't want to do it. Or is there's just no team that makes sense? Like Tampa did, you know, two, three years ago, right? Uh, that, that's a part, that's, you know, one thing I thought of the, the Raiders kind of say, Hey, yeah, Tom, we like you.


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[Assistant] But we're just, we don't want to do this for the one year thing, right? You know, 49ers and we've talked about them because I think that would be a team he would look at for sure. And I wonder if he just finally saw the writing on the wall, like, man, I'm not going to find a spot that really makes sense. So let me call retirement. I don't know any of that. I'm just throwing that out there for food for thought.


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[Assistant] You're right. And you know, the only thing I would think maybe just to counter that is maybe other...


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[Assistant] Maybe he didn't want to wait. Maybe he wanted to know and maybe teams were like, Hey, we got some things we got to figure out and think about. Yeah. Can we talk about this in three weeks from now? And maybe that's where he realized it didn't work either way. I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] Forget all that stuff. We're talking about the GOAT. It's Tom Brady. Everything he's done in this league.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, it's just, it's a special human being. This is a guy that, you know, I was kind of saying the floor of the day, I'm not so sure he doesn't get his own little section at the Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] And really, it's, it's an incredible career, an incredible run.


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[Assistant] You know, and then, and then not doing it necessarily as being like, you know, the most physically gifted guy in the world, but the guy who's gonna be able to show everybody like, look, you know, you work hard, you do everything right, you know, you approach something and give it your all 100%.


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[Assistant] You know, look how you can maximize your talents. I guess that's what I was gonna say. And Brady's talents don't ever get a credit they deserve. As you've heard me say, right?


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[Assistant] They really do. I can speak to that experience myself. My junior year in college, I'm thinking about coming out.


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[Assistant] I got people, agents, coaches, you're gonna be a top 15 pick. I play like shit in the big 12 championship game. Nobody wants me. And then I'm a third rounder the next year. I'm literally have people telling me you're, you should come out.


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[Assistant] I got people reaching out to me, Hey, this team, they got their eye on you. They're going to take you in the top 15, right?


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[Assistant] And I have a horrible game and just one event like that. And then this is on the field. This is a little different than Brady, but it's that fickle is to, to your point. And the perception does become reality as we talk about so much. And then also I think when you play into that fact of what you're talking about too, it was kind of the start of.


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[Assistant] Hey, we'd like our quarterbacks to be a little more athletic, right?


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[Assistant] And he wasn't that. And of course he ran a five, what, two eight or whatever it was, right? So I think with all of that, that played it. But the, the one thing is, is.


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[Assistant] His arm, his ability to dissect defenses and diagnose that the right way is what made him special. And then his ability to be clutch in big moments. That's the biggest thing. I mean he has so many marquee moments throughout his career that are special. Uh, that's, that's where I will always just


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[Assistant] Throughout most of his career, maybe got a little selfish towards the end here, but so be it. You're the GOAT. You won seven Super Bowls. It's hard for that not to happen, really. Uh, but just like an incredible, incredible career. I can't even actually believe we're kinda saying this and talking about it.


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[Assistant] 2002 and who else? Wait, hold on, hold on. Let's actually, let me just think about that. His sec, they won the Super Bowl, they missed the playoffs where they made a great late season end run or late season run to end the year, but they didn't get in. Okay, wait, hold on a second. He went to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Right. This year. Right. That's, that's, that's, I mean, it's, it's amazing. And then only one really major injury throughout that whole time. And then to be a part


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[Assistant] Well, I know there's always, oh Belichick or Brady, who cares? How about just awesome, okay? I mean, 20 years of just, I don't think we'll ever see a team ever replicate that again. I mean, literally, every year we're like,


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[Assistant] Well, they're going to win the Super Bowl, although at least be in the Super Bowl. Oh, it's the playoffs. They're going to make a run and they're going to be close to getting the Super Bowl. Oh, watch out for the Patriots. Oh, watch out for the Patriots. Watch out for the Patriots. Even when like they weren't the favorite. I mean, come on. I don't know any time.


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[Assistant] In our history of our s- actually sports in general, maybe Michael Jordan in the mid-90s, where it was just kind of a given for a while, where you're like, the final two or final four is gonna have the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, it's great. They're having a historic run themselves, you're right. And it's not even in the same class, right? They got a lot of work to do in the Super Bowl department. And then I think when you throw on just the, the,


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[Assistant] You know, makes a few clutch throws in some big moments, but we play defense and run the ball. And then it slowly became, wait, we're going to start putting more on your shoulders and whoa. And okay, now we're going to start to ask you to carry us and start to make throws all over the football field. And we do expect you to throw for 350 and three touchdowns every week. Uh, just that amazing transformation.


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[Assistant] Uh, there, there, and then you add the records on top of it. I mean, I was saying to Flory the other day, like,


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[Assistant] Some of his records, like, who the f*** is gonna break them? Who the f*** is gonna break some of these records? It's just like...


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[Assistant] For that long? That kind of success? Like he's gonna have some records that I think are gonna be like...


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[Assistant] I mean, you're gonna start to see quarterbacks play to their 40s because of the way the rules are set up? I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying. You're right. I mean, he's true pocket passer. Uh, yeah, there's no double threat of him kind of doing that that way. And that's, you know, again,


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[Assistant] The team helps out in those departments too. Can you be protected? Can your coaching staff be good enough to always put you in spots? And he was bet, you know, benefited from, from that, of course. Um, but yeah, it just, it's, it's, it's really, it's incredible what Tom Brady has done.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're gonna have to have a whole Hall of Fame show just for him, really, almost, in a way. It's that special of a career. It's that much greater of a career than any quarterback.


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[Assistant] The career itself is absolutely amazing. You always hear those things where people go, oh, you could have had two Hall of Fame careers. Yea, you arguably could have. You really could have. And then, you know, the finishing touch of going to Tampa and winning the Super Bowl that way, where you're like, wait,


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks don't go to a team and win the Super Bowl the first year.


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[Assistant] Beat the Chiefs and all of that, uh, just adds to the lure. So it's, it's, it's, uh, Tom Brady. See you later. Congratulations. You were the man.


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[Assistant] Where you just go, whoa, he's got all these records and everything. And he really dominates the position when you look at the position and then who has the records, man, Rice has so many of them. Brady's the same way there.


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[Assistant] You know, but a little bit like, you know, uh, Jerry Rice in that way. Is it necessarily the most physically gifted guy I've ever seen? No. No. As I've, you've heard me say before, in their prime,


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[Assistant] In their prime, do I think he's as good as Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or John Elway in their prime? No, I think their prime play, I would rather have him. But, nobody danced around their prime for as long as Tom Brady did. Right? And then, got to a stage in his career


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[Assistant] Where I was like, man, it's, he's old, he's getting...


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[Assistant] He's just looking to check it down and doesn't want to make any mistakes or any big plays anymore. Doesn't want to do anything like that. And 2014 changes that around.


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[Assistant] To where he became a different player. I mean, you know, on the Cincinnati year.


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[Assistant] To where all of a sudden it was like, whoa, here comes Brady from 2007 again. He's striking down field and just throwing with no fear and doing all of that. Uh, that was another aspect of him that I just, you know, found fascinating about his career.


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[Assistant] You know, they got a whole bunch of things they're kind of reorganizing there with no Byron Lefwich anymore. So they're going to figure out just what kind of system they want to run. What do they want to do on the offensive side of the ball?


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[Assistant] You know, I know there's the talk out there that Brady was gonna come back to the Bucks or nobody, right? There was a few- Jeff Darlington who's had a lot of Brady scoops and all that. I don't know if I'd buy that.


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[Assistant] You know, that sounds good. That sounds like something Brady's camp told Jeff Darlington to make sure it sounds good to the public, right? And I'm not trying to like, you know, disclude, uh, Jeff Darlington's work. I think he does a great job. It's just that, yeah, I'm not going to buy everything the guy says, certainly. And I am interested to see if.


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[Assistant] You know, it comes out over the next few weeks if he tried to flirt with a few teams or gauge some interest before he made this final move to retire.


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[Assistant] No. No. If there's a partial tear, they can heal themselves, right?


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[Assistant] I, well that's where, again, going back to the Brady thing, I just thought it was curious that it's like a Wednesday and it's like...


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[Assistant] 24 hours after we heard Birdie's gonna have, you know, an arm issue.


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[Assistant] And it's like, you know, did he get an answer from them? And again, I have no idea here. I'm just speculating, but that's where I just found the timing curious. Okay. As far as how he came out and said this all of a sudden, um, the 49ers. Yeah. I mean, this is a total.


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[Assistant] So we're on like year four here of Trey Lance hasn't really played a complete season in a long time. That's crazy, right? Brock Purdy, I'm with you. I don't see...


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[Assistant] How you would be re- I mean, certainly OTAs are out the window.


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[Assistant] Maybe, okay, you're throwing at the start of training camp, but are you throwing at full strength and being able to make all the throws and just have the total green light to throw the ball 180 times a day? I have a hard time thinking that.


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[Assistant] You know, so that's where I gotta think the 49ers, really regardless, I think of this situation, we're gonna be in the market for a proven veteran to be a backup.


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[Assistant] At least that would be my two cents, if Kyle asked me. Maybe like a, uh, I don't know, like a Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] Anybody but him probably. Cause he's probably going to be like, I'm definitely out of here this time around. And you think there is a market for Jimmy to be a starter somewhere? I do think there is. I do. You know, again, this is...


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[Assistant] There's, there's not, I don't know if there's 32 good quarterbacks to go around right now. So he's one of them. And you know, nonetheless, he's a guy that we know can do some good things. And at the very least you go, okay, well he holds, holds down the fort for us for a year, you know. Oh, hey, the Houston Texans, we drafted a quarterback at number two, right?


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[Assistant] Hey, so we don't want to pay him right away. We got Jimmy here. All right. We're going to bring Jimmy in for a year and you know, pay him $20 million, $25 million. He'll be the starter.


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[Assistant] And if it doesn't go well, yeaah, maybe he gets benched. Uh, but if it does go well, you know, hopefully he can play well enough to go somewhere else and be a starter. Uh, we'll see how that goes. But yeaah, I just, the Brock Purdy thing


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[Assistant] I just feel for him. He had a chance to be the starter and I think kind of locked that down just barring having a horrible meltdown in the NFC Championship game, which I did not expect him to have. And now he's going to be right back in the mix of kind of fighting for his, uh, his job back from Trey Lance. And it's going to be like a quarterback competition when it comes training camp.


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[Assistant] I think this is like a blessing in disguise. You know, first off, the Broncos thing was weird in general.


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[Assistant] I think it was getting to the point where people were going like, wait, what the hell is going on in Denver? What's taking so long?


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[Assistant] This is like, was kind of the most coveted job out there, yet they can't seem to kind of come to terms with anybody here, right? You know, whether it's the rumors of too many cooks in the kitchen during the interview process, whatever, right? It was starting, I think, to the football world looking like, Denver looks kind of like dysfunctional right now, or what the hell are they doing here? Right?


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[Assistant] I do think there was trepidation on the Sean Payton hiring because of, yes, the price tag that you're going to have to pay him and then two, the compensation you just laid out, right? Nobody just wants to give away a first round pick, let alone a second round pick too. Uh, so that, that I think made things tough.


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[Assistant] I would think he's going to be in that ballpark. Right. I think that's about where the top coaches are now. And also, Walmart has that money. Well, they definitely have that money. I think it's, it's in their, their couch cushions. But then like the, the other thing too is with, you know, Hey, Sean Payton, you take him, you know, it's a huge personality.


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[Assistant] He's a controlling personality. He's gonna be the Sergeant General of the franchise. I don't care who your GM is, he's coming in, he's the man now. So, I'm sure there's, who knows what was going on behind there.


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[Assistant] And then here's the other thing that you might have heard me say this to Floria today, I don't know how much you heard of us, but, you know, like,


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[Assistant] There was a talk of D'Amico Ryan yesterday. There was a late push by Denver. I don't know where that came from. I know that some people are reporting that. I have no inkling of that happening at all.


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[Assistant] Now what I do know is that Denver was deep into the conversations with Jim Harbaugh again this weekend. Right?


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[Assistant] I mean, it was, Jim was in the mix. From how I've been told by people connected to the situation is all weekend Jim was in Denver going back and forth and he was I guess a little on the fence either way, blah blah blah.


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[Assistant] Finally came no Sunday, and they started to negotiate with Sean Payton. And that's when it happened.


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[Assistant] Alright, and they got it done. So my point is, one, blessing in disguise, they didn't get...


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[Assistant] No, I think they really want him. I think he was their number one target. You think Jim Harbaugh was the number one target? Definitely. Yes. A hundred percent. I think he was their number one target, right? I think he was the number one target to begin with. They went through this whole search. They couldn't get anything figured out. They went back to Jim Harbaugh again.


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[Assistant] You know, after Harbaugh had said, no, I'm staying at Michigan. And then, yeah, they were flirting with each other once again here. So that went down, whatever, it fell through the deal. Sean Payton's the guy.


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[Assistant] I think that's where I was really saying it's a blessing in disguise. To me it's a blessing in disguise not to knock on Jim Harbaugh, which you know I would like to do, uh, but one, I think Sean Payton's the right hire for this team. Two, I think you got this type of money invested in Russell Wilson, the assets you traded away to get Russell Wilson, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, double down, whatever you want to call, spend more money to make that investment work. It's going to be worth it. Let alone with the guy who I would go out of the options that are out there is the best to do this. And even though the options that aren't out there, I'd still might go, he might be the best to do this. Right? I mean, if we start to go to the coaches that are coaching other teams right now.


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[Assistant] And you'd go, I don't know if anybody's really better than Sean Payden to fix the situation. You know, so that's where, uh, I love it. And yeah, it's expensive. So what? But Sean Payden is a quarterback whisperer.


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[Assistant] You know? He took a guy like Drew Brees who, again, is phenomenal, but like, let's not forget the Chargers were like, we don't want him. He's not good enough for us. And he doesn't throw the ball outside the numbers and down the field good for us, where we feel like we can win a Super Bowl. Sean Payne's like, well I'll take him, I know what he'll do good, and I'll orchestrate a whole offense around it. That's where he's gonna be brilliant. You know? Let alone,


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[Assistant] This is the lost art of what people don't realize with great coaches is their ability to build confidence within the team and then within players. Right? That good coaches


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[Assistant] Make their stars feel like, man, I'm the f***, man, nothing can beat me. Right? That's what they do.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and that's where Russell lost that. You know, whether it's after the injury in Seattle, and then of course this year, it's like a double whammy, and I think Sean Payton can build him back up to at least get him as close as anybody could.


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[Assistant] What you said. And see, this goes back again to the building of the confidence. You know, co- coaches are great salesmen.


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[Assistant] And they're great at, you know, the great coaches as we've discussed all the time. Hey, a lot of them, they all got the same plays. It's the little intricacies and how you could sell the play to your team and just a little detail of a play that can make a big difference, right? I was giving like an example, like,


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[Assistant] Play, you know, I'd run in, I was with the Tennessee Titans in 2008 with Terry, Kerry Collins. We'd call this one play. We'd call it 30 times through the year. Never, never open. Never, never.


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[Assistant] He's just got a little nuance and how to look at the play, and then, hey wait, when they play cover three, receiver, I want you to run the route just a little like this.


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[Assistant] And if it's cover two, it's the same route, but just running a little different against cover two. And then all of a sudden I'm going, holy shit, Brendan Marshall's open every time we call this fucking play. We couldn't hit this play in Tennessee the year before. Now Josh McDaniels sold us the play, gave us confidence, showed us Brady running the play, how good he was at it, all that.


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[Assistant] And then now I go to training camp with the Broncos and Josh McDan. Oh my gosh, we're hitting this play 30 yards a clip here. It's unbelievable. So that's where Sean Payton's going to come in.


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[Assistant] The salesman aspect, rebuilding the confidence of Russell Wilson. He's gonna show him clips and, hey, look at Drew. Drew's throwing this play. We got 95,000.


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[Assistant] You got a stronger arm than Drew. You can throw this in there. Come on. Come on, big boy. Look, I got tapes of you from Seattle three years ago. Here, same play. You can do this, right? He's gonna get em. He's gonna sell all that.


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[Assistant] So that's where it's going to get Russell to buy in. So it's the salesman. And then, you know, again, that way that we talk about so well too, where like,


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[Assistant] Sean was playing quarterback with Drew those, all those years. You know, it was like if Drew got hit, Sean was like, oh man, I'm rattled. I'm getting hit out here today. Right? So he's going to be in the boat, in the fight with them. That's going to make Russell feel good.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I think between that, selling the plays, and just rebuilding


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[Assistant] Russell's confidence in himself, which is a thing too. I mean, I don't care who you are. You know, Belichick and McDaniels, they had a...


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[Assistant] Make Brady feel good sometimes too. Sure. I think it's one of the reasons he was like, I've had enough of this place. I'd like to go somewhere else with a fresh outlook and have Bruce Arians and Byron left, which give me some


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[Assistant] Somebody tell me how good I am, right? Everybody needs that. It's the NFL. I had this conversation with Jason Garrett a few weeks ago.


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[Assistant] You know, and the state of the mind of the football player. So then he can go out and believe he's good and I'm going to be good today and, and all those positive things. And that's where I think Sean Payton is going to be great, let alone I will be shocked. All right. Mark my words. One more thing.


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[Assistant] I will be shocked if their first marquee move of the offseason is not offensive line.


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[Assistant] Just listen to what I'm saying and look down and feel, don't worry, we'll protect you. So that'll be another thing he's going to take off his, his mental framework, right? You know, where this year that was on his mind too. Wait, I'm already a new playbook. I don't know about these plays. I'm not sure, you know, and I'm not being protected and we can't run the ball. So all of that, and Sean's going to calm all that shit down.


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[Assistant] And that's where I will be shocked if Russell Wilson doesn't have a bounce back. Oh, he looks closer to the old Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] Andy, they know also because they're so good at offense, they also know what makes a good defense, right? So they always, that's why those guys always have these good coordinators, right? Cause they're like, when I play that guy, he's annoying. I don't, I can't figure out his rules and they do some things to me that always give me problems, right? So that's the other thing. Like I'd be shocked if they don't have a top notch defense of mind in there.


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[Assistant] Whether that's a Vic Fangio, maybe he'll come back, I don't know. You know, or E.J. Evero, who was there.


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[Assistant] He's had guys like Dennis Allen, right? In his past as a D coordinator. Had Greg Williams before that. Who was a very good creative defense of mine. So I'd be shocked if he doesn't bring that. And Sean always brings a toughness and a physicality to his team. For a guy that throws for 5,000 yards a lot, his teams were always physical. And uh, yeaah, I would be...


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[Assistant] Like that division ran through the Houston Texans for a handful of years, five years in a row maybe. Even before Deshaun Watson. They were going to the playoffs with TJ Yates and f***ing people like that. So, yes.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm, my thoughts are gonna be positive. One, a little, hey, I'm affected by where he came from. Of course I am. I'm a believer in the guy that he learned from in Shanahan. You know. Do you know D'Amico that well? You know, just in passing. Really don't know him like, on a personal level at all. Uhm, but like,


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[Assistant] You know, this is where the 49ers have built a special culture out there.


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[Assistant] Uh, and black, white, you see, they're getting all these comp-compensatory picks, right? Cause of minority hirings. I think they got three this year.


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[Assistant] Just because of Rand Karthon, who's the new GM of the Titans. And then if you get a second one, you actually get an extra. So then they have three compensatory picks in the draft at the end of the third round. But it's because Shanahan himself is a great


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[Assistant] A great communicator and therefore he knows people that are like that and are gonna fit what his...


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[Assistant] His culture is. You know, there's a reason Robert Sala, year two, oh whoa, the Jets big turnaround.


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[Assistant] Mike McDaniel down in Miami, a little weird guy, but oh shit, Sid, he's good. And he does know how to communicate. Might be a little different than Robert Saller or whatever else.


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[Assistant] And this is where I think D'Amico Ryan will be like a chip off the block that way as well. Great energy, you know, a great defensive scheme that is, you know, you've always heard me say it, it's sound and has just the right amount of, you know, creativity splash in there as well.


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[Assistant] And, and then so I just, I think that, let alone he wanted to be there, you know, being drafted by the Houston Texans, being a kid from the South, you know, that to me is always important too. He's invested in it. This was his dream job, you know, and I think we all kind of saw this coming at the end of last week and thought this was going to happen.


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[Assistant] And I think he's done like a pretty damn good job of like all the meat and potatoes. They don't have difference makers yet. So they gotta do that.


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[Assistant] Six year contract. Right. I'm sure that was something Shanahan said, hey, if you really want a shot and to give yourself a fair chance, ask for a six year contract. Cause at a six year contract, you're going to get three years, most likely going to get four. And that then again,


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[Assistant] Exactly, you gotta give at least two years. Right, yeaah, right, right. And you know, you've had top five picks in the draft, like the team is not there yet. Uhm, so this feels like the first time where it's like, okay, wait, they finally got a guy and it seems like there's a plan for the future here.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that's where I'm excited for him, the Texans. And now, they just like we said, they got two picks in the top 12.


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[Assistant] Alright, one of them is going to be a quarterback. Davis Mills is not the answer. He's not going to be a starting quarterback for the Houston Texans next year. So, uhm, I think it was a step in the right direction. I'm happy for Domingo Ryan. I think he'll get everything going in the right direction down there.