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[Assistant] That will deliver and Pete can, uh, tell us what he thinks about it. We'll do it. We'll, uh, we'll drop the breaking news alert up next after the break.


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[Assistant] All right, Pete, the Rams after their loss with no Matthew Stafford lose it in Green Bay. It's a horrific offensive showing fell four spots at number 24 on your power rankings list. How high will they move up now that they've signed Carson Wentz?


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[Assistant] Do you think he should get an MVP vote or will you give him one MVP vote because of how bad they are without him? No.


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[Assistant] Please, I need you to, for my bold prediction to be true. No, it's your, what was your bold prediction?


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[Assistant] He's not fast. He wasn't fast, but he was good. He's not fast. Yeah. Uh, do the Titans have a chance to make the playoffs with Levis at quarterback?


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[Assistant] Oh god, what did you do? Collinsworth? Collinsworth, like, he will crawl out of bed tomorrow morning.


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[Assistant] But again, no, Titans aren't making the playoffs. Uh, Minnesota Vikings.


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[Assistant] Currently the seventh seed in the NFC, your biggest riser, Pete. They vaulted 11 spots in your rankings all the way up to 12. Look at the crap around you.


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[Assistant] Gotta play the lions twice, but there's also a pretty good chance that the lions can be sitting people in that week 18 game. Um, if they've clinched a division, they're locked into a seed.


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[Assistant] 9 in the NFL. It shocked the world when he came in out of nowhere. We use that as a springboard to discuss what surprised you in the first half of the season at Pete. Every team has eight games. We're about this, you know, stupid 17 game season. We can't get, there's no halfway point. It drives me nuts. I want some


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[Assistant] I want some, like an equilibrium there. Uh, what is your biggest surprise so far, uh, of the 2023 NFL season?


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[Assistant] Packers are candidate, Packers are candidate for the first overall pick.


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[Assistant] Wilson, what is your biggest surprise of the first half of the 2023 NFL season?


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[Assistant] I do wonder and I floated this early in the season and then it didn't, it didn't really happen quite as much, but I think it might be happening now.


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[Assistant] Hey, you wanna know who's, you could tell Pete said he knew Wilson's guilty. I know Pete's guilty too because Pete, Pete wants to say Josh Allen and he can't right now. He knows.


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[Assistant] Breach, what's your biggest surprise so far of the 2023 NFL season?


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[Assistant] I mean, let's go. I mean, if you go through peach power rankings, I mean, hurts Lamar, uh, Lawrence. I mean, has


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[Assistant] She can get hurt. Take it easy on Traylon. Okay.


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[Assistant] We've got, we got to do some blind rankings. I also have, um.


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[Assistant] We're gonna take a break, and when we come back, I'm gonna, we're gonna quickly hit my biggest surprise of the season, which actually really crescendoed today with an interesting report out of Boston. What is it? We will tell you next.


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[Assistant] So we all know, and I don't think it's the biggest surprise this season isn't that the Patriots are bad. My biggest surprise. But I got to tell you, it's pretty surprising that like the thinking that bill Belichick might get fired and


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[Assistant] Uh, our friend of the pod, our good friend, Ben Volin had wrote this in the Boston Globe today, bostonglobe.com. If you want to check out the full article, um, noted admit all the talk of Belichick being on the hot seat, the NFL network surprisingly reported in late October that Belichick had quote quietly signed a lucrative multi-year contract extension. Um,


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[Assistant] The game got more interesting on Tuesday when Josh McDaniels became available to be fired by the Raiders and then adds,


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[Assistant] Barring the miracle turnaround, it seems increasingly likely this is Belichick's last in Foxborough and that based on my conversations, Volin writes, I don't think it's 100% that Belichick finishes out this season. And he says that Belichick could get, he thinks Belichick could be fired if the Pats lose to the Colts in Germany on Sunday. Pete.


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[Assistant] Well, and then you don't have to fire Belichick, you trade him, you get a pick. Uhm, like that's the, like that's, that's the way to do it. By the way, let me get on record.


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[Assistant] So here's, both sources also said the same thing. The Crafts quote, home run hires for 2024 would include not only Vrabel, but bringing Nick Casario back to run the front office. Would Nick Casario want to leave Houston to come back to New England?


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[Assistant] I'm surprised that, I'm surprised that Ben wrote this for the globe, knowing that he, like, if he's wrong, he has to cover Belichick for maybe like another 18 months.


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[Assistant] We have, we're going to do a blind ranking with you. We have five.


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[Assistant] No quarterbacks who were taken number one overall.


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[Assistant] And I mean, great job by Harry on it anyway, but the move is like put Elway third in that list and like, see if you put Burke, cause you would have put, would you, how high would you have put burrow if he'd been the first pick?


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[Assistant] You were thinking Smith was the stiff, but he was not.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, no, no, that was a scary joke. Not an old man joke. Join us all week long for more NFL coverage tomorrow. It's a Tuesday with Pete.


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[Assistant] That's right! Another Brady Quinn this week. It's gonna be me, Lejah, and Brian McFadden going over the biggest stories of the week. One last reminder, give us a like or a comment. Hit that subscribe button on YouTube if you're listening to The Pod.


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[Assistant] Version download, follow, subscribe, leave a five star review. Tell all your friends to give us a shot as well. Word of mouth always fun. For Pete, for Wilson, for Breach, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] And you know what? It's almost impossible to get called for a face mask. If you're an offensive player, the officials give you so much leeway. You are allowed to stiff arm them into oblivion. We see Derek Henry do it all the time. You are allowed to touch the face mask. All you can't do is bend your fingers and grasp it. So to see that just


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[Assistant] I feel like some people thought playing quarterback is like riding a bike where Deshaun Watson was just going to be able to turn from a year and a half off and look like an MVP candidate. And that has not been, this is not riding, but he's fallen off the bike and he does not want to get on the bike anymore. And he is just walking. He's carrying the chain. The wheel has no idea what to do.


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[Assistant] Right, and I think that's why that does make sense. We just ripped Deshaun Watson, said he can't do anything. It was clearly Nick Chubb carrying this offense and making life easier for Deshaun Watson. So you take him out of the fold and I do think the offense gets much worse and I don't think one game is that crazy, but I think that


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[Assistant] The Browns, obviously Jonathan Taylor, you can't overpay, you can't send a second round pick for a guy who was contract expiring, uh, in 2023 and who can't even play for three more weeks to week five, so.


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[Assistant] They did win both of those games, but they've basically been outplayed in five or six of the eight quarters they've played so far. I don't know how they're a top 10 team.


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[Assistant] Prisco, that's why they should put him on injured reserve. Look, here's the thing is Prisco, you're absolutely right. I can't even pick the bangles as the 0-2-T most likely to bounce back because


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[Assistant] Who's our quarterback is going to be in three weeks because you don't know what's going to happen with Burrow. I mean, Prisco, you hit the nail on the head with they're in a nightmare cycle right now where he's got this cap injury. If he keeps playing, it's only going to get worse. The only way it's going to heal is if they bench him for a few weeks and


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[Assistant] Uh, eight carries for 70 yards through two weeks. This year he has one carry for five yards. He's been afraid to run because it seems like he's afraid.


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[Assistant] They're kind of in this purgatory right now and I don't know what you do if you're the Bengals, but I wouldn't feel comfortable sending him out a Monday night against Aaron Donald knowing he's hobbled, can't protect himself and can't run for his life because he can't run right now. So, uh, this is a dicey situation. I would not take the Bengals as my own two bounce back team. All that being said, I would take the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Okay, fine. The Vikings are 0-2. They're only one game out of first place. Pete just pointed out all the problems with the Lions losing that home game to the Seahawks. I don't trust Jordan Love yet. I think that, uh, Kirk Cousins is probably the best quarterback in that division still. And as long as they beat the Chargers in Week 3 and get to 1-2, you know, their season's not even close to over because


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[Assistant] Nobody in that division is gonna win 12 or 13 games. It's gonna take 10 or 11. They're close enough. They're not even close to Adam and I like to fight.


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[Assistant] One good game. So if he goes out and plays against the Rams and throws for 350 yards and three touchdowns, I'll feel a lot better.


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[Assistant] But until I see Joe Burrow play a normal Joe Burrow game where he can be mobile, he can escape the pocket, uh, he can make the downfield throws that he can't make because he's planting on his right leg. He's over 12 on throws of 15 yards downfield. So half his game is just out the window because of his inj- this injury. So that needs to be fixed and I need to see him play a Joe Burrow game before I-


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with the Patriots at 28. I think the Patriots would be probably at least the next 10 teams in front of them on this list. Maybe the next 15. Uh, yes, they're 0 and 2, I get that, but I just feel like they're a lot better than 28.


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[Assistant] You wanna hear a crazy fact about Justin Jefferson? He hasn't touched on it yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, you guys mentioned everyone, but I will shout out a couple kickers. How about...


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[Assistant] Brandon Aubrey from the Cowboys coming out now. Well, I struggled a little bit in the preseason, but a seven for seven on field goals with a long of 55.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jake Moody also struggled a little bit in the preseason, but has come out and crushed it, hit a 57 yarder. Uh, in week two also is 100% on his field goals, 6 for 6. He has looked fantastic.


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[Assistant] Uh, so probably those two guys, and the Titans look pretty smart for adding Nick Volk, who is having a pretty strong season, uh, also 7 for 7.


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[Assistant] Quick fun fact, I'm Bryce Young, 4.2 yards per attempt through two games. Uh, according to ESPN stats and info, that is the third lowest mark in NFL history for a quarterback through their first two career games.


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[Assistant] That's why I'm yawning because I'm like, I'm, I'm not yawning, but I'm like, I'm trying not to like it's week six. It's like.


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[Assistant] I know Katie, you said the other day, but like you, like you, I mean, like you, you've obviously been a football fan for a long time, but like you're, you know, um,


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[Assistant] Yeah. So like, you know, when they say the rookie wall.


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[Assistant] Wait till Thanksgiving, wait till, wait till Halloween, like Thanksgiving. You're like, why this stupid season over?


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[Assistant] Week six, you started to get like the novelty of like the season. Like I'm doing pretty good in like my fantasy leagues and like my picks. So it's easier to like stay like enthusiastic about it, but like the novelty of the season now we're through the quarter poll and the novelty of the season is like worn off and it's like, okay,


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[Assistant] We got 12 more weeks of this regular season. Don't get me wrong, like I love it, but it is, it is a grind. I, I, I actually think, I don't know what you guys think about this, maybe this is soft.


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[Assistant] No, no, but maybe this is a millennial, maybe this makes me a millennial thing. I think, I think, I think sports writers, I think we should all get a bi-week too. Agree.


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[Assistant] I'm not really tired of football or anything like that. Like I'm enjoying it. It's just like...


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[Assistant] So like stay focused because I think it's easy to be focused for the first like five weeks of the sport or five weeks of the season. You're coming in, like you're, you know, you're pumping the new season. If your priors are right, you're feeling good about stuff. Um, and you know, like I think I've got a pretty good handle on the, on the, on the, on the season.


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[Assistant] It's all about like staying focused and like adjusting to what the differences are and that's what we're going to help people do today.


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[Assistant] You know, what's funny about the, um, about the, uh, the, uh, the, um, the home field advancing is that.


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[Assistant] Just by nature of like us being on all these different, yeah, we're like, like we all.


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[Assistant] Like, like, like prop was all process. Alex is on like the Thursday pick them show. I was on like Thursday HQ with Emory.


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[Assistant] In this sort of setup and like just the overall, the trends of this betting recap is that we are a quarter pole the way in.


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[Assistant] And when, when Alex said that his, his, his volume of bats trickles off and dwindles down, what he means is that what you're seeing here is this.


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[Assistant] The, the books are getting sharper. They want it to be six and six, seven and five. They like, that's, that's the expectation is that you're seeing about a 500 record.


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[Assistant] For these favorites for these underdogs, because you want it to be the lines to be so tight and so sharp that very rarely do you see a situation where like the books are just completely wrong. Now you might have a case where like the Bengals go to Arizona and bludgeon the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] No one was expecting Joe Burrow to magically get healthy all of a sudden and play really well in week 5 after looking like crap for the entire week. The Bears beat the Commanders by 20 as 6-point underdogs.


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[Assistant] I mean, like, like they're going to be, they're going to be instances like that where it's just stuff that's maybe hard to explain. The Jaguars beating the bills. That's, I mean, I think probably a jet lag thing, right? Um, but, but generally speaking, I feel like.


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[Assistant] These lines are free or free. I guess actually there were a bunch of weird 34 nothing Saints paths was kind of weird, but like they're these lines are just tightening up and that's why and they're it's only going to continue to be sharper throughout the season.


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[Assistant] I think 9 games with 45 or more points this past week. I counted, I think, at least 6 with 50 plus points. So that's maybe the one outlier there where you see the overs going 8 and 4.


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[Assistant] I tend to think, uh, that it's probably more a byproduct of the specific matchups where like the, the lions just shredded the Panthers and the Panthers come through the back door to help push that away. I mean way over the total, right? Uh, you have the jets and the Broncos, you know, to just maybe


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[Assistant] You know, the Jets revenge game, Bronkers defense, not very good. You have 52 points there. Uh, Niners just.


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[Assistant] We left the Cowboys, toss the Cowboys of the club on Sunday night, 42 to 10, right? That's how you get to there. And then the Bengals and the Cardinals and sort of a surprising shootout. So it's like.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I think, I think we've, I think we're hitting like a normalized level here where there's going to be different stuff that happens. But by and large, like these lines, it like, this is going to be hard. It's hard to bet right now. This is a hard stretch of that.


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[Assistant] So, uh, on this, on this total, I think this is really important when you look at, um, uh, when you look at the, the situation with what the, what the chiefs will do here, they are playing on a short week.


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[Assistant] Travis Kelsey suffered his ankle sprain, but came back in the game. They are playing a division opponent. Their next game in 10 days is against another division opponent, the chargers. And then.


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[Assistant] The following week after that, they are at Denver. So they play the Broncos twice in three weeks. They can affect. I mean, like you have Denver, LA, Denver. If you go three and oh, and that's true.


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[Assistant] And then Miami, but I'm just saying, but yeah, before you buy, but like you have three divisional games in a row here with the Broncos sandwich. I don't think they will want to show Denver anything that will help Denver win in week eight in, in, in mile high stadium. I think they saw Bruce Hall shred this run defense. I think the


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[Assistant] Broncos players have to be thinking our season is done and maybe like, you know, Emory mentioned the not the no want to there. This is a team that might not come out like on a short week. You've got bludgeoned by the Jets embarrassed at home.


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[Assistant] Like your only win is a, like a crazy comeback win over the Bears. Like this Broncos team might pack it in and against Kansas City.


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[Assistant] It's not a good place to be. I don't see how the Broncos rally here and get ready for this, but I also worry that Andy Reid is going to be very interested in just getting out and winning like.


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[Assistant] 2417 or 2414. So I think the under is a really good look. It's already down a point down to 50. I agree with Emory.


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[Assistant] But I, and I, I will probably end up taking the Chiefs at a picks pool, but it's pretty tough at that number.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they sure have. And there's no reason. And like again, like the Chiefs aren't going to want to give anything to the Chargers or give anything to the Broncos in two weeks. They're going to come out and try to pound the ball down the throat and just play defense. And I think the unders are great. Look here already down a full point would definitely try to get that in as soon as possible, but it closes like 47 or 48.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ravens, minus four at the Titans, a total of forty and a half. The look ahead was Ravens minus five and a half. Uh, this is already down to three and a half, although the Ravens are juiced. It's, you know, on the road as a favorite. Um, I mean, look, the total is really low.


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[Assistant] We haven't seen this Ravens offense get going and I think, I mean like,


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[Assistant] The way they lost the Steelers on Sunday. Unbelievable. Emery, like he just think you just can't lose that game like that. And I do sort of think Mike Vrabel is a dog. I know that, you know, he didn't do it against Indianapolis, but he was a favorite on the road. This feels like a pretty good spot for variable as a dog against a quarterback in a team. He's had success against in the past.


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[Assistant] I, I, uh, prop, you got anything on this game? I was going to say, I was going to look at the first half under because we did see, I, you know, I had that bills over and you're right. Like the way the turf operated, that was not something that, um,


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[Assistant] Like it wasn't going to get there, but then it almost did in the second half. Like they started to like kind of get comfortable on the turf and started slinging around. I think maybe the under 40 here is a pretty good look. I mean, this is two teams who are going to be traveling probably on short weeks. The Ravens have done this a few times. I feel like.


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[Assistant] Also possible too that they want to try and limit his workload early in the season after him getting hurt, uh, because they were too heavy on it in years past. Niners at the Browns, 49ers minus four and a half.


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[Assistant] Road favorite. A total of 39 and a half. Gross. Uh, I'm gonna throw out that you bet the Niners now because Deshaun Watson hadn't been cleared. You don't know that if he's gonna play. And if Deshaun Watson is ruled out, I think this closes like Niners minus six or something like that. The total man, I mean,


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[Assistant] The biggest concern here is probably that the 49ers will score 40 themselves, but I think after that output against


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[Assistant] Dallas, they are more than likely to just kind of come in this one, especially during Thompson Robinson is the starter here. Emory, they come in and like, all right, we're just going to score 21 points and we don't think we know that he can't get that against this defense. Um, like the under the spread here at all.


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[Assistant] No, I was going to say that the um, Niner's 21 to 30 points scored is the favorite plus 160. I see this at DraftKings and then 11 to 20 points is plus 165, which is kind of interesting. So in other words, like the team total will probably be like 22 and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, 22 to 17, the implied score is 22 to 17 because you have the niners at a five point favorite with the 39 point total point total. So a 22 17 is there is what Vegas is saying. Currently the implied that means the 49ers are probably like 22 and a half, 21 and a half point to team total over. So you can absolutely.


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[Assistant] They didn't cover against the Packers. I guess they pushed. I guess they were like 1-3-1 technically, depending on what number you had. Cause they didn't cover against the Lions.


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[Assistant] I was just surprised. It feels like the Falcons have been like a pretty good bet so far this year, but I guess they are like, yeah, they didn't cover yesterday. They are one of four gets spread.


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[Assistant] I think the under here is a pretty good look. We saw the commander score 20 points against a really bad bears defense. Now the bears brought the, brought the heat. They played great defense. Um, Sam Howell was really off. I know it's sort of a bounce back spot with a long week to prepare, but Atlanta, I think Atlanta's defense is just a lot better than people think. And it's, and it's, but here's the thing with Atlanta's defense is that it is, it, it, uh, dovetails


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[Assistant] And coalesces with the really, really methodical and slow Falcons offense.


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[Assistant] So it's like just hard to get a ton of points or run a ton of plays against the Falcons just because even if they're losing, they're going to like, they scored six and seven against the like the Lions and the Jaguars. Um, I would look towards the under here, turning down half a point in some spots. I think 42 under 42, probably a pretty good look here, prop.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they just have a soft schedule. That's why, that's why I said embed them for the most wins. But yeah, I mean, I, I agree. I think, I think the under is good looking and yeah, like they have three guys they took in the top 10 of the NFL draft in the last five years and two of the receivers, one tight end, one receiver being out.


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[Assistant] We don't see it go over 40. Speaking of low scores, Carolina Panthers boy, do they not like to score? Can they score at Miami? We will tell you coming up next after the break.


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[Assistant] Bryce Young has two completions of 20 yards or more, 28 yards or more this season. We're five weeks in and now he missed one game because of injury.


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[Assistant] It's not a Bryce Young thing. Like I was talking with my buddy Adam Gold on 999 here in Raleigh on earlier on Monday and he's like, he's like, they just have to challenge down the field. I was like, they, I was like, Adam, they physically cannot.


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[Assistant] Like they don't, it's like, he's like DJ Charms there, I'm like, I mean you can run DJ Charms on nine routes, oh you won't, it ain't gonna work, like, there's, they don't have anyone on the offensive roster that can challenge vertically right now.


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[Assistant] And if they do, Bryce Young didn't have time to throw the ball down the field. I agree. You've got to figure out something. That's why they're desperate to trade for wide receivers. I think we're going to see.


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[Assistant] Somebody, I would bet the Dolphins now, I know it's like juice of the Panthers. I don't see how the Dolphins, the Dolphins, the Panthers defense is starting to give up. It didn't play in well.


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[Assistant] The dolphins could hang 50 on them. It's like, I don't


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[Assistant] That's right. There you go. There you go. Um, I just think that this panthers team has no offense, Emory, and I don't see how it gets better.


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[Assistant] By the way, by the way, right now, if the season ended and it doesn't end after five weeks, so that's pointless, but the Panthers have, uh, this game against Miami and then


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[Assistant] I think they're by and then Indianapolis and Houston, which, and then at Chicago, like they have to find a way to get two wins in the next four weeks at least. And that sounds hard to do, right? But here's the thing right now, the Panthers will be giving away for Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] Jalen Carter, who they could have just taken it number nine when they sat there and two second round picks, which are going to be really high second round picks.


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[Assistant] If they give away the number one overall pick in the Caleb Williams draft to the Bears, it is going to be a really awkward situation.


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[Assistant] People talk down about Josh Allen too. Like, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson were the ones disparaged and they are clearly the best quarterbacks in the draft class.


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[Assistant] I think it's, I think if Justin Fields plays the way he did the last two weeks over the next, like the rest of the season, uh, it's going to be one, the Bears will probably win more games than, you know, like they, they need, but like it, like what's interesting is if they get the number one or they got a top five pick from the Panthers.


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[Assistant] And then they have a pick another pick in the top 10 and they're like, let, we're just going to ride with fields to grab Marvin Harrison jr. And like, or like trade, you know, there's a lot of options depending on how it plays out. But if Justin fields plays the way he has the last two weeks, it will complicate it.


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[Assistant] Bears plus three vikings, by the way. I mean, might as well roll right into it, huh?


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[Assistant] Total 47 and a half, actually down now 46 and a half. I just don't think the Vikings have one win.


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[Assistant] And it was on the road against Carolina and I realized Chicago is bad, but this is a divisional game. So we mentioned the Bears offense a little bit better. I think you take the three with the Bears here and just like Chicago can either win this game or like Minnesota is not going to blow out the Bears. I don't think I think Chicago can get better.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, Justin Jefferson is not likely to play this game, I think. Yeaah. Good call, yeaah. So yeaah, I mean, I think, uhm.


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[Assistant] I would be looking towards the Bears here at that plus three before it moves, uh, prop anything there on, um, if Jefferson's out for this game, like, like, do you bump up KJ? Do you like, do you bump up Jordan Addison a ton? KJ Osborne? Like, how do you play that?


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[Assistant] And I know that I missed this because I played Jonathan Taylor in fantasy and I told Katie to play in fantasy too. Diana Racini had a report, the athletic had a report on Saturday that said that they may


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would actually think too that like, I mean, all due respect to Anthony Richardson, but I don't think Gordon Mitchell is like a, you know, like a, all that in a bag of chips or whatever, but I just say all that bag of chips was 1995. Yeah. Cool. 95. What's up? Um,


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[Assistant] But I do think like you see downs, tend to downs are so good at Carolina, like running routes on the slot. And that's an easy, like sort of underneath target for Minshew to use. And then you saw seven targets to Michael Pittman, like the passing game from a fantasy perspective should pick up. And like maybe now with, with, uh, against a Jaguars defense, it hadn't been that great. Um,


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[Assistant] You know, downs and Pittman, two good looks for like possible overs in terms of their catches, uh, this coming week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I tend to, I tend to agree with him. And I, I think you should bet Houston in this game now. Houston's a good team. They're getting their tackles back. The defense is playing well. They should probably be in Atlanta and like Atlanta's just got some like Desmond Ritter home home stadium, like home field advantage, like magic beans or something like that. Um,


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[Assistant] I think I would bet that the Texans close as a favorite in this game and they are plus one and a half now already down a full point. I think Texans close minus one minus one and a half maybe minus two. So if you like the Texans like I do, I would go and take it.


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[Assistant] Not opposed to the, uh, under 40 and a half year either. The Texas have not been explosive. The Saints, this, this reeks of like 1715.


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[Assistant] Seahawks and Bengals. Bengals minus three, a total of forty-six. Bengals actually down to two and a half with some heftier juice. Uh, I


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[Assistant] I am curious to see how Joe burrow looks in this game. Now this, I think that this could end up being a shootout. I like the over here. I think the over, I think it ends up closing at 48. So I would take the 46, the over 46 now. My one concern, Emory is that we have seen


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[Assistant] Now I thought he looked, he looked miles better against the Cardinals than he did against the Rams. The question is, is there any sort of fallout from that, from this past week and that road win? Uh, or is this like a case where Burrow knows


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[Assistant] And there is one more thing too, where it's like, this is sort of, they have the Niners and the Bills coming out of the buy. So this is like kind of a must-win game too, where if you get a three and three, even if you drop those two games against San Francisco Buffalo, you're, you're three and five, but like your season's not over you three and three, you've salvaged your season going to the buy, right? Prop. Yeah.


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[Assistant] In a shootout in overtime. I, I, that's what I'm saying. Like I'm not taking the big ones minus the three. Like that would be my, I would be my lean. It was two and a half, but I think the over is the look. And to, uh, to Alex's point, um, I see on, uh, I just happen to have DraftKings open for this because the award's easy to find. Jamar Chase, 22 to one offensive player of the year.


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[Assistant] You know, Chris McAfee a little banged up, Pyreak playing awesome. Obviously, Justin Jefferson banged up. Those are the three guys in front of him.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would bet him at 22 to one. If the bingo is, if Joe burrows back and he's slinging the deep ball like this, that's a whole different ball game for tomorrow. Chase, who is always effing open.


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[Assistant] Raiders minus two and a half a total of 43. Uh, this line look at line was Raiders minus one and a half. Uh, it looks like it's getting juiced out even more. Of course the Raiders are playing tonight on Monday football. Jimmy Garoppolo is playing right. I mean he is in right with the


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[Assistant] He's out of concussion protocol. Yeah. He's out of concussion protocol. So like this line, I think the only way to really approach this line honestly would be if you, if you, if something happens,


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think it's like, if you like the Patriots at all, like if something happens to Jimmy G in this game and Jimmy G is just injury prone.


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[Assistant] Maybe you like jump on the pats a little bit. Uhm, but yea, if the Raiders, if the Raiders roll the Packers, then they will probably be favored against a horrendous Patriots offense.


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[Assistant] The game's probably on CBS too, so I should dog it, but it's a dog. Uhm, I mean we don't really need to cover this game, honestly.


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[Assistant] I think the lions, I'm with you on the lions here. And by the way, the totals drop from 46 to 43 and a half. That's a substantial drop. Uh, I sorta wonder if there is some kind of,


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[Assistant] I think that if you put the Lions in a different uniform, we would put them with the Eagles and the 49ers in terms of the top teams in the NFC. But we don't do like if you put the Lions in the Cowboys uniform.


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[Assistant] I was just like, sure, like, of course the Lions are going to be great. That makes sense. It's never happened before. Why would, why wouldn't it just happen overnight? But they're built the trenches. They can run the ball really well. David Montgomery looks awesome. They have weapons who step up when I'm around St. Brown is gone. And then defensively, they've got a really good pass. There's Aiden Hutchinson. I'm not sure. What is he for defensive player of the year actually?


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[Assistant] That was crazy. He's 15 to 1 when defensive player of the year. I don't think that's a crazy look at the, at the, at the lions that be really good. Uh, so I'll take the lions here. I'll hold off on the over under, but I would expect this to be more of a slog where it's like a Todd balls. Um,


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[Assistant] We don't see, I don't think we'll see Jared golf outdoors.


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[Assistant] Not a, not a, not an explosive Buccaneers offense. I think I would lean towards the under, but that's too much of a drop for me right now.


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[Assistant] There's, by the way, there's a, uh, there's a tropical like wave situation that's forming. It says 80% chance, 80% chance of a cyclone formation in the next seven days. So nice. And it would be for the Atlantic. So I don't know if that's like, like, who knows what, I don't, that can't be related to the point. That can't be the point spread drop, right? That's right.


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[Assistant] My parents were actually, well yeaah, I don't want to tell the story because it didn't affect them, it affected other people, but I mean like, anyway, uhm, yeaah, like a tsunami, if you will. I, uh, I don't...


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[Assistant] I think the Cardinals are about to hit a wall. I think they're frisky, but it's like, it's like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just think the, I think the Rams are better than people give them credit for too. And with Cooper Cup looked awesome. He's back and that's a big win for Matthew Stafford. Like.


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[Assistant] Cooper, you know, we, I was talking about how like they say competitive with the Eagles and it was the underneath stuff. I mean, Philly's defense just locked him down the second half on, on Sunday afternoon. Like that wasn't the Rams.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Cardinals can do that. Uhm, and I think you'll see Sean McVay with plenty of success here. I like, I like the Rams here. Uh, probably like the under as well, just cause I don't think either, either team will be able to score. Uh, Eagles at the Jets. Eagles minus six Jets.


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[Assistant] Going off a huge win, total 42. This line's already out to six and a half.


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[Assistant] I think you bet the Eagles now. Yes. And often if you like, if you, if you like the jets go for it, but this Eagles defense is rounding into form. Fletcher Cox is probably back. Uh, Elijah Vera Tucker left the game for the jets.


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[Assistant] This line is going to get above seven because Philly is undefeated and going to play a team with Zach Wilson, a quarterback, and the jets are coming off their Super Bowl. They beat the Broncos for Nathaniel Hackett. I think you see this is a big time let down spot, uh, in my opinion problem.


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[Assistant] You can't, you can't run against Philly and like that means Zach Wilson's just gonna have to throw if Philly gets any kind of lead against him. And like as good as the just defense is, I mean...


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[Assistant] It's fine. It's pretty good. I don't think it's that great. Like, it's not as good as everybody


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure. I mean, I just don't think, I mean, they're at home. It's a huge game, but Philly. I mean, Philly's Philly might be starting. This might be like a Philly flex game. Honestly, that second half against LA has me concerned. Like LA is a way better version of the Jets. Um,


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[Assistant] Without the defensive back end. Uh, Giants and the Bills. Is that Monday Night Football? That's a shame. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Uh, Bill's minus 14, this line down half a point, total 46 down to 45.


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[Assistant] Catherine, are you going to back Daniel Jones, who is expected to play in this game?


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[Assistant] Don't hate that at all. I think, um, I had written down in their bet giants net early cause Daniel Jones is back, but they basically said he's back in the line, moved half a points. It's like, this is probably not going to get under 13 and under 14. And also, I mean, we've seen two with the bills.


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[Assistant] When they lose, they typically come out a little pissed off the next week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just a joke. Yeah. I, that's a good call on the under, cause I mean like they, Matt Milano probably done for the year. Genevieve is quite done for the year, right? Yep. I mean, you know, you're like,


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[Assistant] You think that you, you, it's so crazy how the NFL works like this. You think you're like, we've got it all going on. Some jackasses yelling the Bills are the best team in football. And then you go to London, losing the Jaguars because you traveled there on Friday and you lose a key linebacker for the season. And now all of a sudden, like,


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[Assistant] You feel like that defense is hemorrhaging. So yeah, it does make sense to sort of like just kind of tuck it, like, you know, tuck in your, tuck in your shirt, keep it tight.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast. CBS sports NFL podcast. I'm Will Brinson. Join today for a rankings party.


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[Assistant] Bye. Two super friends. The two or the other two super friends. Keep forgetting. Sean Wagner McGuff. Remember that guy?


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[Assistant] Brian Wilson and John Breach, along with the purveyor of the power rankings, the penultimate


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[Assistant] Person, I don't know, I was trying to go with the P thing like before you cross. I don't know. You feel like you're the last, the second to last boss before you get to, uh, whatever that the river that you cross.


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[Assistant] What the hell are you talking about? Hell, I was talking about hell, actually. I was talking about hell. You're like, you're like the guardian of the river hell. Pete Prisco, what's up buddy?


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[Assistant] I thought you were going to make a I'm in hell because I'm on this podcast joke, but whatever works for-


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[Assistant] Interesting. The river sticks. Thank you. Seven stand. That's what I was looking for. Pete stands in front of the river sticks. He's the penultimate.


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[Assistant] Guardian of the River Styx, before you cross to see Beelzebub. Anywho, that's some old Greek mythology for you, Pete. I'm sure that you've forgotten about that since the last time you were there at the River Styx. If you're waiting on YouTube, if you're watching on YouTube, make sure to hit the like button and subscribe while you're at it, listening, tuning, the various


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[Assistant] Podcast platforms and so they five star review. Go back in the feed one episode. You got Katie mox, myself, emery hunt and prop stars looking at early odds for week four.


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[Assistant] A tricky week, week four. We've got some good info though, some trends, some, uh, liens that you want to check out today. We're going to cover the AFC South's wild week, run through Pete's.


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[Assistant] Post week three power rankings and then talk about some coaches on the hot seat with a special guest. But first Pete, do you know that this is like the ultimate Pete game?


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[Assistant] Jaguars Falcons in London? It's your favorite city on planet Earth.


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[Assistant] Did you know, Pete, now I know London, Jaguars, Falcons, those are like two of your long time, like Homer stick favorite teams, my colors inside out. Um, did you know that this game will be broadcast on ESPN plus exclusively? And then at the same time, you could also watch on Disney plus.


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[Assistant] A live Toy Story version of the game. How excited are you on a scale of 1 to 10 for that?


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[Assistant] And now he ain't. You don't want to hear about Pete's children book. Instead, what we don't want to hear, Pete, is your ranking of your top three Toy Story characters.


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[Assistant] What do you think about, what do you think about Slinky Dog? I have no idea what that is. Don't care.


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[Assistant] Uh, Pete, would you, uh, Wilson, uh, breach, you guys have power rankings for, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a cool, there's a cool, slinky, there's a cool, uh, slinky dog ride at, uh, at Disney World. For Disneyland?


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[Assistant] The, uh, Disney World is the one in Florida, I believe. That's where the Toy Story stuff is. That's right. I've been to that one. I've never been to Disney. Disneyland is California. I think I've never been to that one.


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[Assistant] Wait, wait, you were, oh yea, that's right, your birthday's coming up soon, isn't it?


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[Assistant] Have you, have you read the, uhm, have you read the serial killer book about the World's Fair?


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[Assistant] The devil in the white city is really good.


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[Assistant] It's like half fiction, half reality. It's, it's, it's really, uh, it's uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, it's a sandwich thing that you can do online. It's pretty cool on Instagram. It's going big. It's great. You'd love it, Pete. Right up your alley. You toss feta in a pan, you crack an egg over it. And then you, uh, you put that onto a tortilla with some avocado and the, uh, the, the egg, the runny egg becomes the sauce. It's fantastic. Very healthy. Very quick too.


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[Assistant] You've never, you, your mom tried to make you eat an egg when you were a young boy. Yep. And you have never eaten an egg since then? Since. Never.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's moving along. Well, fortunately we're earned by Paramount. So I don't think we have to worry about that too much. Uh, if this were an ESPN show, we'd be completely screwed right now, but let's get through the toy talk and get into the real actual power rankings. And we start in your top five because frankly, Pete, you'd think anytime the dolphins


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[Assistant] 16 when this happened. Like my, my, my parents were 16 the last time somebody scored 70 points in the NFL game and you rank the Dolphins fourth behind the Chiefs who have lost the game.


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[Assistant] Behind the Eagles, fine. I'm undefeated. Behind the 49ers, uh, is this a bias perhaps because of a tweet from this past offseason?


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[Assistant] At Prisco CBS, Dolphins with Healthy Two are still fifth or sixth team in the conference and second best in the state to Jacksonville! Defend yourself, Prisco!


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah, well. How about Valen? 49ers and dolphins. I'm taking the dolphins over 8.


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[Assistant] You have the bills, you have the bills at five. I feel like Dolphins Four, Bills Five is kind of like you sort of saying, I'm picking the bills to win and cover the three points. They're favorite by two and a half or three, whatever it is. I think they win.


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[Assistant] To the Jacksonville Jaguars. A team that got as high as five at one point in this power rankings. Preseason Super Bowl pick from the AFK.


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[Assistant] Three weeks. The Jaguars are down to number 20.


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[Assistant] Here's your, here's your, here's your, here's your purple pros you put in your blurb. What was that against the Texans or were they simply overrated by many, including me? They sure don't look like a playoff team down 10 spots one and two.


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[Assistant] Feel like any of those teams could win it. Even like even the Texans, even the Titans and they've looked real bad at points in time. Colts have looked pretty good. Jags have looked like trash. Is this simply a play calling problem, Pete?


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[Assistant] Tripp, Tripp Ball, Tripp Ball, he's beef with Jim Harbaugh coming back to bite the Jaguars in the ass right now. Cause they would have taken Aiden Hutchinson if he didn't hate Jim Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] Who was it who, uh, did the play by play in the locker room afterwards? He was like, and I was like, Oh,


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[Assistant] I think it was on, I saw it on like, uh, one of our Instagram clips, but it's like one of the Texas players was like,


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[Assistant] You know what? You had to be there. You had to see it. Alright, moving along.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't do a good job explaining that. The books have the Jags as a three point favorite at home against the Falcons in London, as we mentioned.


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[Assistant] I don't think they'll shut down the Falcons because the Jaguars defense isn't very good. Let's say that they win 24 to 17.


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[Assistant] Uh, Wilson, you mentioned, uh, or did you mention Calvin Ridley's problems?


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[Assistant] Actually, no, you know what, Breach, you're fine. Uh, time to take a break. When we come back, maybe there's some teams that are, come back from the dead. That's like, uh,


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[Assistant] Like Pete. We thought Pete's career was toast, came back from the dead, salvaged it. What are you talking about?


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[Assistant] Just kidding, Pete. We'll talk about some teams who look like they were toasting through three weeks. They are back and maybe back in the mix. We'll tell you who they are. Who's shooting up the rankings coming up next.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pixix Podcast. Ryan Wilson, Sean Breach, Pete Prisco joined by me, Will Brinson. We've got some bottom feeders. Arizona Cardinals in the Houston Tag. Well, actually, you know, we'll talk about the Cardinals first.


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[Assistant] Oh, we'll talk about the Texans first. They're up to 12 spots to number 19. Pete, they're ahead of the Jaguars after beating your Jaguars. Is this team better than, better than you thought?


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[Assistant] Is CJ Stroud the best rookie quarterback?


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[Assistant] Jimmy Ward was the one celebrating the, uh, the back kick return, talking about it.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's, uh, yeah, Pittsburgh minus three at Houston.


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[Assistant] Just worth noting that the odds for defensive rookie of the year, excuse me, offensive rookie of the year.


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[Assistant] Um, CJ Shroud now plus 450, tied with Anthony Richardson behind Bijon Robinson at 3-1. Pooka Nakua 7-1. Devin Achein jumped up to 10-1, along with Ze Flowers. You could get some Bryce Young at 40-1 right now.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, I'm just saying Bryce Young could, Bryce Young could use like the time away when he's dealing with the injury. He could come back, play well and like 40 to one is pretty good odds for, for a quarterback to win rookie of the year. Like you don't have to win football games to win rookie of the year as a quarterback. Anthony Richardson can't stay on the field and maybe CJ Stroud struggles for a little bit. We'll see.


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[Assistant] Just saying. I threw it out there. The Cardinals, Arizona Cardinals, maybe getting Kyler Murray back soon. They jump up six spots from DFL to number 26 overall after whooping up on the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Three pretty good performances from the Cardinals. Uhm. And I think they hang around this week too, Will. Do you, do you feel, do you feel bad for leaving them at last after they tried hard for two weeks? Is that why you set them up this, this freaking high?


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[Assistant] He's their guy. I know, but you can make the case of like Kyler shouldn't even be back to like week eight anyway. Well, from a health standpoint.


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[Assistant] Now if you lose, let's say you lose the next two games and you're, well then you'd be one and four.


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[Assistant] Do you play Kyler Murray? Because if the Texans lose the, the Texans lose the next two and the Cardinals lose the next two, you're really like hurtling towards Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr., which is pretty attractive.


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[Assistant] I don't think a coaching staff and a team will tank. I just think that it's possible that a front office will decide we're not playing Kyler because if he gets hurt and can't pass a physical, then we are really screwed and we want to get Caleb Williams.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, it's interesting. I saw Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports wrote about this. So this is pretty wild. There are four own three teams in the NFL right now, right? All four of them play each other this week.


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[Assistant] The Bears and the Broncos are both 0-3 and they play each other. And the Panthers and the Vikings are both 0-3 and they play each other. Uh, if you follow the odds there, the Bears will possess the top two picks in the NFL draft coming out of this weekend because they had the Panthers first round pick from the Bryce Young deal, which means that like, dude, Chicago,


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[Assistant] You know who would be a really good coach for Justin Fields? Shane Steichen.


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[Assistant] And he read, and he read as well. Shane Steichen's got the Colts up 10 spots from 24 all the way to 14.


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[Assistant] I can promise you Pete's not stealing your point about Minshew versus Richardson from the rundown. Should they play Richardson or should they keep playing Minshew?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you wrote, it's like, it's like Mike Stanton. He's like, Hey, uh, as it turns out, I'm really rich now. So I'm going to go back to being Giancarlo. I was worried it might hamper me going to the majors. So I went by Mike. Like I'm just going to be Giancarlo now. A Chan ran for, uh, four touchdowns. He's like, Hey, you know what? It's not a change. So if you guys could fix that pronunciation, that'd be great. Thanks.


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[Assistant] His brother, something works with the lions is like the janitor with the lions or something. I can't remember. Anyway, uh, moving along, Rick Spielman, co-host of the with the first pick podcast with Ryan Wilson, a fantastic NFL draft podcast. Um, he pointed, actually I got, I, when I was doing my mocks, I used Rick's


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[Assistant] And by the, by the way, with the, with the Jonathan Taylor thing really quickly, um, if they beat the Rams this week, they're three and one, and then they get the Titans, uh, versus the Titans and at the Jaguars with the Jags coming back from two weeks in London, like roll Jonathan Taylor out there and play him.


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[Assistant] I agree with that. I don't think they're going to find a trade partner for him. Okay, very quickly. We talked about the bears. Uh, or do you need to go Pete?


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, Broncos, Panthers and Vikings, which one of those teams, because I think the Bears are the worst team in football pretty clearly negative. They have a worse point differential than the Broncos who lost by 50 points on Sunday. Who's the next worst team in football?


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[Assistant] There's no way you, there is not, there is no one on that roster that can get separation downfield.


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[Assistant] You're suggesting that Rick gets paid to defend Bryce Young? That's Pete's go-to.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach Wilson, what thoughts on worst team in the NFL? Breach, go ahead.


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[Assistant] And then he tried, he said, he said, well, I, I, I called the exact same play that Kevin wanted to call. It was literally the same play. Who would have guessed that? It's like, uh, not me.


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[Assistant] All right, Pete mentioned coaches on the hot seat, Brady Stanley on the hot seat. We're going to say goodbye to Pete. Don't hang up, Pete. Well, you'll leave during the break. Uh, we will see you pal when we come back. We've got our live power rankings given to us by Pink Six listener.


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[Assistant] One just like you. Dominic Petrillo joins us and ranks coaches on the hot seat. Coming up next.


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[Assistant] All right, welcome back to the Pixix Podcast. Will Britson, Ryan Wilson, John Breach, and now joined by long time Lister, Pixix super fan and general knower of ball, Dominic Petrella. Don, what's up, buddy?


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[Assistant] Good for you. You get to rank, you get to rank things as well. Let's start with your, uh, let's do your coach power rankings. Coaches on the hot seat for drama. We'll start with five and work our way to the coach on the hottest seat. Who is your number five coach with the hottest butt slash seat in the NFL?


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[Assistant] No, no, I was told I wasn't supposed to know what they were. I was, I was, I was told I wasn't going to find out what they were ahead of time. So it didn't spoil the rankings. And so that's, but look, I'll take, I'll, I'll take the, uh, I'll take the L there for.


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[Assistant] So I mean, to think about Mike McCarthy too, is when you think about the hot seats, right? Like you got to, you have to take somebody off of the hot, like, like if you're going to, like somebody else has to be put on there, like in place of Mike McCarthy and sort of running through it. I mean, like we don't think Zach Taylor's on the hot seat, right? Breach.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm trying to find people who might replace Mike McCarthy on the top five. I don't think Robert Salas on the hot seat because Aaron Rodgers got hurt. I think he's, I think he's in the clear. Bill Belichick, I'm looking at one of two teams.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think Rivera you could put on the list instead of McCarthy if you wanted to, just because like of the, but it's right. It is the ownership changes. The fact that Josh Harris, if they lose a bunch of games, he's going to, he's going to make a change there. You just start looking through this list and like, Oh, three Panthers like that. You know, you can't put, um,


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[Assistant] Frank rake on the hot seat down his first year. I don't think if two and one, it did, you know, top balls.


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[Assistant] So we've got Mike Vrabel at number four, Don Walker's through that one. I sort of feel, I think this is a tough list this early in the season just because again, like one and two Mike Vrabel. To me, Mike Vrabel's probably safe, but I have a hard time finding somebody else that would replace him with a hotter seat.


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[Assistant] Are you, are you worried? Are you worried with Rabel, uh, Wilson that let's say Ryan Tannehill last year of his contract, he's gone off city of Malik Willis and Will Levis. And that's all you got at the quarterback position. What happens with Tennessee then?


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[Assistant] Number three, Dom, this one, now we are getting to the, the, I think, I think, I think four or five are hard to fill out. Um, but number three, we're getting to the hot, the meat of the hot seat here. Number three, Matt Eberfuss in Chicago. Uh, they are currently trending towards having.


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[Assistant] Possibly the two number, the number one and number two overall picks if both they and Carolina lose this weekend. Chicago has been terrible. Uh, Pete Prisco earlier in the show pointed out it is largely the coaching staff. Uh, what, what, what product did you have? You were forced at three and maybe not even higher.


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[Assistant] Maybe don't, or like somebody named Ryan P and somebody named Matt, maybe don't go out and hire like another Ryan P and a Matt. One, I mean, it's, it feels like you're just doing it just to be cheap on like, like scraping their names off the offices or like changing out like name plates and everything. Uh, two, it's like very confusing for everybody involved. Like you hear routinely analysts would be like, Ryan Poles, you know, it's like people pause because they don't really say Matt Eberfluss. Maybe not that one.


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[Assistant] I can, I can get down with that. All right. Number two, we go out to the desert, Las Vegas, Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] Now I routinely for some reason defend Josh McDaniel's hot seat, suggesting Dom that he is not on the hot seat only because Mark Davis is unlikely to let him go just because Mark Davis doesn't want to deal with it. But you've got him at number two on your list.


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[Assistant] I just also think too, there's like this built in aspect of being able to blame John Gruden and Mike Mayock because it's like, and it's not hard. You're like, look, look at what these guys did in the draft. Look at the guy. They didn't. Did they sign Chandler Jones or did Miguel sign children's?


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[Assistant] McDaniels. McDaniels, that's not great for him right now. Uh, but yeah, but like, like you look at the draft picks, it's like, look, dude, what? They wasted like 13 first round picks. What do you want us to do with this? Uh, number one in your hearts.


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[Assistant] In your keyboards on fourth downs in Minnesota, maybe not Minnesota, but certainly in Los Angeles, the hottest seat in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Brandon staley Dom checks in as your number one coach in terms of the power rankings on hot seat.


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[Assistant] It feels like he's never said a lot of times, like his job is to be good on defense to


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[Assistant] Make smart analytical decisions and to manage like the game in a functional way. And he doesn't do any of those things. That is a problem. Um, all right, Dom.


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[Assistant] This is excellent, man. Great work. Uh, is there anything, any, uh, any parting shots you want to take at Ryan Wilson before we get out of here or me?


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[Assistant] Good work for the week, buddy. Uh, dive on in on that. Don, thank you for joining. This is a blast. Excellent work on your power rankings. Um, there is a, at least a 50% chance that you will replace Pete Prisco in the next.


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[Assistant] Uh, three weeks as, as the purveyor of the power rankings. I wouldn't be surprised by it at all. You're much, uh, much, much more intelligent and much less grouchy. Appreciate you buddy. Thanks for coming on for Ryan, for Brinson, for Brian, for breach for Dom. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Badly. Yeah, it all started with a hot dog at halftime and an Odric Estima 80-yard touchdown run. The rest is history.


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[Assistant] Real quick, did anyone try to use a photo you took of that lightning strike in the scoreboard? Did anybody try to use it? What do you mean?


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[Assistant] It's the most devastating injury to a professional athlete.


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[Assistant] At least in my lifetime, as far as the hype building up to it, uh, I mean, Hard Knocks was able to capitalize off this. Well done, Will. Uh, everything involved, the Jets, their aspirations, I looked at them as a playoff Super Bowl contender team.


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[Assistant] I think you just felt like maybe he was kind of reborn there the way Hard Knocks portrayed him and the media portrayed him. There was just so much hype coming into it.


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[Assistant] And it would have been one thing if it was like the end of the first game, but four plays? I mean, four plays? Will, you okay over there, buddy?


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[Assistant] I'll put it this way. I was in New York for the game. I was there on behalf, uh, for a charity. And I'll put it this way. Like it was a Tiger Woods charity event. Tiger was up on stage. There's other professional golfers there. Ricky Fowler, uh, Justin Thomas, uh, Will Zaltoris, Michael Strand was hosting it. It was really, really cool.


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[Assistant] The injury happened and it was one of those deals where like you saw everyone in the crowd start checking their phone.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're talking about like, people in close proximity having Q&A talking with Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods!


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[Assistant] And, like, everyone's distracted by this. And people were like, as soon as that portion ended, they get up, they go to the bar, they start drinking, and they're like, what the hell just happened? This is the life of a Jets fan in a nutshell, basically. That was the gist I got from it.


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[Assistant] Right. I mean like nobody knew, but I reached out to someone Monday night. I told someone who I was close to who's in this world that does that for a job. And I say, Hey, this is what I've been told. They're just going to confirm it tomorrow with it. But much like the ACL test, you can do, you do the same thing for an Achilles, you know, when it's ruptured, you know, they knew. Yeah, like


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[Assistant] I listened to that and I think the first words before that was like they're going to evaluate, you know, what's out there. And I think there's, there's a couple of thoughts here.


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[Assistant] Do you bring in a guy like Matt Ryan, who I think would make a lot of sense? You know, he said he's officially not retired. I think you look at last year in Indianapolis and go that was a dumpster fire. He could come in, he could operate within the system. He's been in West Coast before. He's a smart guy. He could end up being the guy I think coming out of the bi-week probably if you make this decision relatively soon.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or there's the other thought of, can we go trade for someone? Do you go for a Jameis Winston? Do you go for a Gardner Minshew in Indianapolis where


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[Assistant] Maybe you've got a team that's willing to part ways with their backup and you don't have to give up that much to get them because you feel like that's where our team's at right now. And Andy Dalton from Carolina or something like that. Sure, sure. I mean, again, uhm, you know, you're evaluating all those different potential possibilities, right?


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[Assistant] Zach Wilson's the guy. At least for the short term, maybe long term rest of the season.


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[Assistant] The good thing for the Jets is this will give you clarity on the situation. Like this is not how you want the season to go. It wasn't.


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[Assistant] But to be honest with you, like, the fact of keeping Zach Wilson there, and they keep talking about development and all that stuff, it's like,


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[Assistant] Dude, you gotta make a decision on his fifth year option after this season. How can you do that if he's riding the bench? Guess what? He's not riding the bench anymore. He's your starter. And so you now get an opportunity to let him play this season. Maybe he plays well. Maybe he's grown. Rodgers has taught him a lot. He's gonna hang around, continue to mentor him.


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[Assistant] Maybe he helps, you know, Zach Wilson continue to mature into the player you thought he was. And you get, you get to the end of the season, you say, look, Rogers is back.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be healthy for the next year or two. We're gonna roll with that, but we're gonna extend Zach because we feel about, you know, good about his upside and we can work out an extension or a long-term deal with him, whether that's through pick up the fifth year option and extension or however they work that out.


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[Assistant] That's one, that's one point of clarity you will find with the Zach Wilson situation. Look, and if you play him this year and things...


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[Assistant] Fall by the wayside, you can move on. There's no reason to keep him around and let him continue to keep developing. You kind of know where he's at at this point. I think you, you cut bait at that point and you don't have to pick up his fifth year off. She's got a year left. Maybe you trade him or just flat out release him, whatever the case is.


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[Assistant] That was one like lingering thing that I never really understood going into this season because you got Tim Boyle, he knows the system, he was with Rodgers and Green Bay.


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[Assistant] And now the fact that they're even contemplating bringing in another veteran quarterback, it already kind of tells you maybe where their heads at on this.


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[Assistant] And so at least that's the one saving grace I think the Jets have is it's either going to work or it's not with Zach Wilson and by the end of this year you kind of know and that situation clears itself up.


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[Assistant] Don't tell, don't tell John Priest that. You cross that, Sam Elgars there, but you cross that bridge when you get there, right? And I think they feel good enough about Sam to keep three of their active. So you'd have to imagine they feel pretty good. Like teams who only have two on their active roster, you're not even talking to them because they're not going to give up their backup.


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[Assistant] But like, you know what honestly would be funny? And someone's mentioned this this season, and after week one, like no one's gonna believe, buy into this, but it's like...


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[Assistant] But like, that'd be another person I'd say, hey, would you be willing to go with Sam Dornal, bring him back in this system, this offense? I don't know if Jetson would be able to accept that.


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[Assistant] And that's I think the difference here is like, if you went after Jameis, if you went after even Gartner Minshew,


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[Assistant] You're bringing them in to get them ready by bi-week to give them two weeks to prepare for that first start they're gonna have a week seven and then, and you're playing them. Like that's your intent.


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[Assistant] Yeah, probably, I think it was after week two. And look, the reality was, as I said last year, there would be, I thought there'd be a five-win team based on their schedule, my preseason predictions and all that. People ran with the fact that I said that I didn't think they'd be favored in their first nine. That's what I said ago. They will not be favored, which they were favored one time.


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[Assistant] Which is not what I said. Right, I know, I know. I said they wouldn't be favored. But again, people don't understand betting still, we're still rolling things out state by state, so maybe they'll get to that some point.


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[Assistant] Is, when you had Rodgers and Hackett, their time together in Green Bay, you know, it wasn't like LaFleur was there as a part of that call play calling process, but also Rodgers, audible and checking, getting the place that he wants. I remember that was like one of those headbutting scenarios between what LaFleur wanted, Presnap, you know, all that and what Rodgers wanted.


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[Assistant] And my understanding is kind of more of as you look at this New York Jets offense, I think one of the things that gave me a lot of confidence in what they were going to be able to do offensively was hack it Rogers together in the way that's going to work is Rogers is an extension out there on the field of what they're trying to accomplish from a coaching standpoint.


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[Assistant] The difference here is like, you're not getting that. You're not getting that wealth of experience, that first ballot Hall of Famer, you know, mind and talent who knows exactly what he wants, what he's seeing, and where he feels comfortable, where he doesn't, what he wants to get to.


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[Assistant] And that's where I think this puts a lot more pressure on Nathaniel Hackett, which if you go back to last year, obviously things were a disaster there in Denver. And that's what becomes concerning moving forward is if you had any concerns about them hiring Nathaniel Hackett in the first place, those were alleviated once Rogers got on the roster.


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[Assistant] Now that it will be Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle, name your next quarterback. Now that becomes a bit more of the forefront of concern of what does this offense look like from a play calling standpoint.


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[Assistant] You ask Zach to make some throws, don't mess it up, don't turn the football over when you have to create, get outside the pocket, but, but don't create a disaster and don't put our defense in bad spots because our defense and our running game will keep us in games or give us a shot to win games as long as you don't mess it up. Like that's, that's where I think this thing's going.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I mean, look, Zach Wilson, we can talk about that another time. I think one of the more interesting things- Is Joe Flacco elite, Brady? I think that's the question that needs to be answered. Well, there's a lot more football that needs to be played before we figure that out, but uhm, what's interesting about this is like, if this whole thing with Aaron Rodgers didn't work this year, like, let's just say they ended up an 8-9 football team.


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[Assistant] What would have been the status of Joe Douglas and Robert Sala? Oh, trouble, trouble, trouble.


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[Assistant] You can't fire him after that. Like I just, I'm just saying like, I actually would say if anything,


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[Assistant] It now not only allows like Zach Wilson to presentially clear up whether he's gonna be the guy after Rogers or long term or not.


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[Assistant] It also gives a little more upside to Robert Sala. Like, if things didn't work out, he gets all the downside. If things do work out, it's cause of Rodgers. Now it's like, dude, if you're a playoff team with Zach Wilson and you overcome this this year, now you look like a genius. Like now you're the man. Like, and by the way, if you don't,


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[Assistant] I think this actually is set up, ironically, like, kind of well for Robert Sully. I know they're disappointed, I know they're probably going to hate hearing this, and fans definitely don't want to hear this, but at least for the head coach for an office, like, it kind of kicks the can down the road for another year.


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[Assistant] I think if you make the playoffs as a 9 and 18, for sure. Okay. Uhm, that's what it's going to take in the AFC. At least that probably double digits because I was projecting it. You're going to double digit win team.


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[Assistant] Okay, so let's talk about that, let's talk about the injury for a second.


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[Assistant] So my wife suffered a torn Achilles and granted smaller, right, in size, so you would think she could come back faster. She came back super fast. It happened in 2011 World Championships in Japan.


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[Assistant] Well, the point, the point is like no longer is, was she facing like, you know, she was able to do those things, which is a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pounding on that Achilles on that, on that tendon. So.


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[Assistant] You know, it can be done. Like the rehab and the recovery is about six months now. There's less invasive ways of doing it. It's come a long way, and especially as far as recovery, how they can get them back.


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[Assistant] And, and to AJ's point, yea, of course. Like, they're gonna have to rehab anyway. So, clearly he's gonna be ready for it. Now he's incentivized by his contract. He's incentivized for a lot of reasons.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think he's probably got a sense and a feel for how great it was to be a jet and how different it was and really wants to tap into now what that's going to be.


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[Assistant] For 2024. So I think all those things are out there and part of it. By the way, the fact that it's his left to me as an even better sign for this reason, when you're a right handed quarterback, you're constantly dropping back on that right leg and you're pushing.


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[Assistant] I'll be honest with you, I constantly was dealing with tendonitis. There was times I thought my achilles was going to pop by then at training camp. Really? Because you got so used to pushing off, pushing off. Yea, if you're dehydrated, if you've, like, everything feels like it's tight back there. So you're constantly getting it worked on, soft tissue work and everything else.


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[Assistant] And so that, it's more problematic to me if it was as right as compared to his left. I mean this injury isn't happening if it doesn't get rolled up on by Leonard Floyd.


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[Assistant] This is a contact injury. It wasn't like he was like running and it popped on him all of a sudden. So all those things to me are pluses and reasons why, look, he's gonna get surgery soon. He'll go start the rehab process. He should be full go ready to go by 2024.


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[Assistant] The one thing I think if you look at his game, and we talked about the cut blocks, Deuce, you mentioned that, and he's talked openly about not liking that because he can't create, can't hold on the ball. That's true.


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[Assistant] He's getting up there at age of 40. One of the things he's got to really watch what Tom did and learn from is Tom Brady at the end of his career was throwing passes at like two and a half seconds, right? It's impossible for a rush to get there if you're catching the ball and in under two and a half seconds getting the ball out.


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[Assistant] That really hasn't been Roger's style necessarily, but it might need to be as he gets older. And it's not because he can't throw the ball down the field. Clearly he's got all the tools and the ability to do every once. It's just so you limit any of these hits.


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[Assistant] Any of the potential of you getting hit, someone falling on you, rolling up on you, getting close to you, any of that.


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[Assistant] Like, if he can change that portion of it too moving forward, I think that's the one thing that, like, he's gotta evaluate and say,


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[Assistant] I gotta find a way to get in the bottom of my hand quicker or we gotta do more seven man protections and block some things up where I have a little extra help because we got playmakers who make it a contest to catch and I'm accurate enough to put it in a spot where I don't care if he has double covered. I'll give my wide receiver an opportunity.


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[Assistant] I don't want to get jabbed either, you know, a bunch of jabs coming at you. By the way, I mean, is this karma by the way for Roger Snell?


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[Assistant] He's, he's skinny Pete now. So I told him, I was like, should you be, should you be mixing that and testosterone? I'm not sure you should be taking both at the same time. Yeah, that's like, that's like,


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[Assistant] It's already come down to a point. So it's now, uh, Eagles given six at home. The interesting thing too, that came from the last week, uh, was, uh, Baker Mayfield had mentioned one of the players at halftime. They do the Vikings, uh, signals. So they did all the defensive signals when playing cover two, cover three, everything else.


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[Assistant] Too much, you know, havoc for a defense out there communicating, uh, especially one that's going to be, you know, in this case, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, playing on the road. So, uh, we'll see how the Minnesota Vikings respond. Uh, it should be, I think it's gonna be a close game. Should be a fun game to watch, but, uh, I like the Vikings in this case to cover. I like them at seven, six now. It's, uh, you gotta like a little bit more.


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[Assistant] I played on offense, you played defense, alright now, I'll say this, don't get mad at me for saying this, but we always felt like on offense, our guys are a little smarter, so we felt like we could do a change a little more on defense.


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[Assistant] We have dummy calls. We're like, hey, let's just see if we could say this if they listen to last week's broadcast to hear this call. You know, and we, we, you know, it could be Ohio, Ohio. And like, you see the defense, they'd be like, what?


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[Assistant] I can't wait to sit there and watch you. I can't wait to sit there and watch you type out this whole intro. Very rude. The people have been waiting, Wilson.


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[Assistant] I would say that if you look at all the 02 teams.


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[Assistant] I think that the Patriots are probably the best 0-2 team. Maybe you make the case for the Chargers, but I mean, actually the Chargers are probably technically the best 0-2 team. We'll get to them in a minute. Uh, but I do think the Patriots can get back involved in, um, in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, yeah, the Dolphins have a good running game and they have an electric Playbakers. Belichick said, I'm going to squat on the deep shots, not let you beat me down the field and to beat him anyway and move to five and oh, the only quarterback reach.


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[Assistant] He's the favorite, he's the favorite to win the MVP now. Five to one, uh, at FanDuel.


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[Assistant] Was aware that that's what Belichick was going to do because he studied the tape and he looked at the tendencies and he knows what Belichick Belichick wants to take away your best player or he adjusted in game.


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[Assistant] And that's exactly what the, what the Dolphins did. They took a couple of shots, but mostly short throws, quick throws, let Raheem Mostert run and Raheem Mostert ran really well. Uh, Saad Ahmed, Ahmed ran, uh, well as well. Uh, uh, uh, Devon A-Chain, A-Chain, I always pronounce his name wrong. A-Chain. A-Chain was out there too.


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[Assistant] And as such, the dolphins moved to, uh, two and O for the first time since 2001 and 2002. We tried to get the three and over the first time since 94.


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[Assistant] It's the most yards, 924 yards a season through two games in team history. Wilson, uh, it should come as no surprise that just as the dolphins are starting to become this juggernaut in the NFL.


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[Assistant] You should know this is, this is true. Now look, you're the first podcast producer of the Pixix podcast to not be an Eagles fan.


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[Assistant] Which I mean, thank God. Uh, but also when Devo was producing, the Eagles won the super bowl. And then when Billy was producing, the Eagles went to the super bowl.


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[Assistant] Wins over Wilson as the Dolphins winning how many games, Wilson?


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[Assistant] Or even plays like 15 games. I think that there's a really good chance that he will be in the top three MVP.


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[Assistant] Oh, yeah, just because of the weapons he has, how well he's played in this McDaniel system. Um, so yeah, I mean, that's that's exciting. All right, uh, Harry. Get out of here.


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[Assistant] Uh, we'll probably have Harry. Um, he's, uh, he's, he's gonna do a great job. Uh, we'll be producing all these shows. Wilson.


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[Assistant] You famously dragged Justin Herbert before the draft, unlike me.


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[Assistant] Chargers or Patriots? Which 0-2 team is more likely to make the playoffs?


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[Assistant] I'm not trying to like prop up the Patriots and be like, Oh, the Patriots is a great Patriots team. I think if they could easily be two at Oh, they just have like 700%.


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[Assistant] Like it feels like those games were a lot closer, but then this, this is also the NFL when you are.


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[Assistant] But I think this Patriots defense is playing really good football. I think they're going to be a problem week in a week out. And Mac Jones to me has looked.


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[Assistant] And I think they've got something cooking, but you lose two in Foxborough. I think this, uh, rich eyes and maybe tweet this out. The first time they've started O and two at home, uh, to start the season since 1975. Last time they were to start the season was, uh, 2001 when they did go to the Superbowl, uh, with Tom Brady. I just feel like it's it.


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[Assistant] To score 50 plus points in the first two games, not have a single turnover in those two games, and go 0-2.


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[Assistant] They've actually seen, uh, and Brady Staley now, uh, I don't know where we're getting these odds from, but he is the favorite. Uh, no, no, he was the favorite coming into this week to be the first coach fired. I think with the Kelly, with Kelly Moore on that staff, that really becomes problematic, especially if the offense is playing well. Um, look.


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[Assistant] They got, they got completely gashed by Tua Taka Maloa and Tyree Kill last week in the passing game, right? This is a team where greatest deal is defense for


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[Assistant] Do you know how many times they scored 27 points in overtime? Kinda didn't feel well to win the game.


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[Assistant] Wilson, do you know how many times last year the Tennessee Titans scored more than 27 points?


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[Assistant] They scored 27 points once and scored more than 21 points. I think like three times. This is a team that and they didn't exactly load up on offense. This is a team that has scored 15 points against the Saints last week. It is not a good offense and they, the Chargers come to town. And again, we saw it with Staley where they had, it was, I think it was three minutes and 38 seconds left. They get the ball.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, uh, they're down, they're down three.


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[Assistant] The Titans used that moment to let Derek Henry get rested, running back on the field. He conversed a third down, four plays later, they're kicking a field goal to win the game. This guy is this, he should be minus two 50 to be the first coach fired. His seat should be scorching.


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[Assistant] And the, and the cheap ass chargers really screwed up because Sean Payne desperately, and I know Sean Payne's own too too, but like if you put Herbert with him, he'd be much better.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying, like, he, like, Sean Payne desperately wanted this job.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes, 26. In those 26 games, he went 21 and five. Kurt Warner, 26. In those games, he went 22 and four. Dan Marino, 22. He went 16 and six. Justin Herbert, 23. He was 12 and 11.


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[Assistant] This dude is putting up monster numbers and just the winds are coming. It does feel very like Stafford-esque in the sense of like the team doesn't win despite the quarterback playing well, except.


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[Assistant] The Lions had a terrible roster. I mean, yeah, they had Calvin Johnson and that was great for a while. And the defense was pretty good with Jim Schwartz's coaching. But like when they ended up consuming Cliff Aruel, but like,


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[Assistant] I think I, if I'm on a scale of one to 10 here, I think it's probably a five. I didn't see the injury. So I, and I don't know what the, I don't know what the exact, um, cause it, cause the game is over. You know, just I shifted my attention to other stuff. I don't know exactly what the.


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[Assistant] Prognosis is there. I do think if this is right calf or left calf. I think he's right.


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[Assistant] I would say, you know, I'm not a quarterback. I'm not a doctor, but man, if you're struggling to push the ball down the field.


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[Assistant] Right calf injury. Definitely something that could play into that. You're stepping back. You're stepping back. You're trying to push off and drive down the field and he has looked a little off. I did think in the so we as you guys can probably guess when we're in our slack chair, slack group chat and someone's team is performing poorly.


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[Assistant] No one's like uplifting them, like we're like dunking on breach left and right, like, like ripping the bingles, like it's Joe Burrow Washington. I love Joe Burrow, but it's like we're ripping the bingles. And then it was like, you were like, well, he started turning it on last year in week two, around like the fourth quarter. And like, right when he said that I thought Burrow started playing a lot different. I thought the pace they used was better. And so I sort of wonder if.


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[Assistant] This is a case of what we've seen the last couple of years where the Bengals come out, they run the ball a bunch.


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[Assistant] They try to be the sort of methodical, they try to like not put Burrow at risk and eventually it's like kind of panic time and they sort of have to just let Burrow uncork and that's when he starts to get going and he plays well. The re-injury thing is very concerning.


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[Assistant] I think this next four weeks, between now and October 15th,


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[Assistant] You know, both of those games, you feel like they'll be, they'll be favored and should win.


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[Assistant] Like I think you have to go three in one of those four games breach or else you're in, in your, your panic scales up to like 10.


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[Assistant] Like that's probably one in one best case scenario. So if you go two and two.


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[Assistant] You're two and four and all of a sudden you're three and five going to week 10. Now you can beat the Texas at home and you get, you get a four and five, but like,


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[Assistant] Raiders are in first place in that division. The Dolphins now 2-0, but the AFC is not as, the teams who we thought would be really good didn't come out and like win both of their games is what I'm saying. But I still think you can't go, you would like not to go 2-2 in those games.


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[Assistant] So I had the, uh, bills is one of my best bets on our, uh, on our pick show on Thursday.


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[Assistant] With four and one this week, uh, Patriots are the one loser. Very close to a full sweep, so very excited about that.


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[Assistant] And Josh Allen hadn't turned the ball over four times. Then the Bills would have been like 12 point favorites against the Raiders. They still would have covered because they won 38 to 10 and they beat the living crap out of them.


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[Assistant] This, I thought this is a quintessential week two. Oh, right. Let's settle down. Everyone take a breath game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, do you want to ask me a question?


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[Assistant] I think it was a case of, so they're playing the Jets last week and he couldn't get anything and he couldn't be patient and he couldn't take his time. And then against the Raiders, he's just like, I think he knew like, I don't need to go.


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[Assistant] Get this, like I can just, I can sort of have whatever I want. I mean, James Cook ran 17 times.


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[Assistant] For 123 yards, Damien Harrison, Latavius Murray, both scored at rushing touchdown. Alan, 31 to 37.


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[Assistant] They went, uh, they marched down the field on their first drive and then promptly, yeah, five plays, 75 yards of touchdowns. I was like, Oh.


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[Assistant] Las Vegas gonna come here and play around and then the rest of the game at 34 plays, three points and three turnovers. They nothing. The bills even shut him down. Play great football. I think this I think this is a perfect. Okay, the Jets sort of have my number right now, but I don't have to worry about him too much. Let's get home. Let's get right.


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[Assistant] Very efficient, very versatile, very varied in their approach, but like on defense and offense. And, um, you know, I think this is a, the Dolphins are great, but Buffalo to me, I still think, um, I would, I would be wanting to bet them to win the division and then, yeah, I get that.